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Calamba
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Well, maybe not the right place to ask here in 'Manila', but, has anybody got experience with a place named Calamba? I have came to know that it should be a very nice place for fucking around!?
Hesekiels[/QUOTE]Calamba is at the end of South Super Highway, it is definately the province. There are a few bars and local girls are always friendly to the walking ATM machines they percieve most westerners to be. If you go a little further you will end up in Los Banos which has a number of hot springs and resorts. A nice place to bring along a friend from Manila for some relaxing mongering.
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Entertainment Complex
Hello Hawaii Man,
How do you get to "entertainment complex"? Is that the name? I used the domestic terminal last year but I don't remember seeing anything interesting. Of course it was daytime.
What should I tell the taxi driver?
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Ermita Or Angels City
Guys,
I had visited Manila almost 20 years ago and stayed in Rothman inn hotel in Ermita. Girls then were for 400 pesos full night. 1 USD was 25 pesos. I plan to visit Manila again next month. Which is the right place for nightlife sex. Should I hang around in Ermita or Angles city. Can you also recomend a good 3 star girl friendly hotel in these places.
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Entertainment complex
[QUOTE=X Man]Hello Hawaii Man,
How do you get to "entertainment complex"? Is that the name? I used the domestic terminal last year but I don't remember seeing anything interesting. Of course it was daytime.
What should I tell the taxi driver?[/QUOTE]Mention Edsa Entertainment Cmplex to any cab driver and you will get there. Its near the corner of Edsa and Roxas Blvd across from the Heritage Hotel if you have a map.
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member 2718:
I think he is asking about the new entertainment center that is located near the domestic terminal and also next to UTOPIA. Going a little down in this thread, you can find more details.
It is not so visible from the "main road", but when you drive in through the entrance of Utopia, about 100 meters, you will find all 8 bars with their signs/logos very much visible.
I enjoyed what I found there, but it is somewhat far away from where I normally stay (Malate), so I'll stick to my regular hang-outs... :)
[QUOTE=Member #2718]Mention Edsa Entertainment Cmplex to any cab driver and you will get there. Its near the corner of Edsa and Roxas Blvd across from the Heritage Hotel if you have a map.[/QUOTE]
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How is Baguio
How is Baguio for nightlife sex. Are the girls more prettier than manila. Where can we find girls in Baguio.
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Baguio
This is a great place to monger. Not many westerners know about it as this is the first I seen it mentioned(I've not read every post). There are many bars and some real gems. You have to search for them, but Baguio is a small place and everything is within a simple cab ride away. I don't remember the name of the places I went 2yrs ago, but the one I ended up in was pretty wild. There was a floor show that had a candle dance with a very attractive girl holding lit candles in each hand, wearing nearly nothing, dancing and letting the hot wax drop onto her body.
I'd say there was about 25 women there. I picked one and my cousin picked one and we retired to the VIP room for some incredibly hot bbbj's( some of the best deep throat slobbering/gagging I've had). The bg I had was a strong 8(I'm really particular), we were drinking and playing there for a couple of hours and the bill came to around 5000 pesos, which included both girls, the room and our driver's drinks. All in it was a great time...
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Skyline Health Club
Hi Friends,
Skyline Health Club (in Grand Boulevard Hotel, 8th floor, Roxas Boulevard) is highly recommendable! If you guys have two hours time, go there and enjoy.
During the past two weeks I went there four times and found the service always excellent! Rooms are cosy and clean, service staff (room boys, 'waiters') very friendly and discrete.
Costs: 1.200 pesos (after 18:00 hrs 1.400 pesos), payable in the 'showroom'
Extras: 1.500 to 2.000 pesos, depending on your negociation skills
I booked Number 23 (two times), 91, and Letter K. Hard to say which one was the best, however, I liked it with all three of them. Perfect bodies, nice make-up, very well mannered, and super performance in bed. Got the best bj from K and a large number of various nice fucking positions from 91. By the way, number 23 is something like the superstar in SHC. According to the internal ranking (means bookings) she is almost every month under the top three!
So, guys, simply have a try. Although the price is rather on the higher side (compared to pick-up spots like L.A. Cafe), it is every peso worth it. I am quite sure that you will not regret it. Have a good time!
Hesekiels
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Harrison Plaza
Harrison Plaza, the older shopping Mall in Malate, used to be chock full of freelancers anytime after 2 pm, all ready and willing for about P1000, hotel 400 extra. I'm just wondering if this scene is still happening?
SD
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Ermita / Malate
Hi Guys!
While reading all the reports I have got the impression that only L.A. Cafe is a good pick-up place in Ermita!? Can somebody recommend some other interesting places in Ermita/Malate area? I suppose our specialist Juniour can help!?
Hesekiels
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Hi Junior,
I am comming there next week, I hardly have any time, can you suggest few good girl friendly hotel in Malate. Secondly is it possible to find a 2 bedroom apt hotel in malate as I am visiting with a friend. Thanks all for the info on Angles city. I know now where to stay.
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Guys, l am no expert.
I am just a regular guy who enjoys myself in the Philippines and wants to share this useful information with my fellow mongers.
[b] Tercar 66[/b]
Be rest assured that [u]most[/u] hotels in the Philippines are [i]girl friendly[/i] there are several hotels in Manila that have more than enough room for two guys and two or three girls. I suggest you first search the forum for places to stay or one of the search engines because this question has come up many times.
[b]Hesekiels[/b]
As for other bars to pick up girls in Ermita / Malate there are a couple of other places that have been mentioned by some of the regulars, once again search the forum, it’s a minefield of useful information.
I will look forward to reading your posts and seeing your photos guys.
[color=blue]Juniour[/color]
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Ermita/malate
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Hi Guys!
While reading all the reports I have got the impression that only L.A. Cafe is a good pick-up place in Ermita!? Can somebody recommend some other interesting places in Ermita/Malate area? I suppose our specialist Juniour can help!?
Hesekiels[/QUOTE]Try Amazonia right down the street or almost any of the bars along Adriatico a block up from the L.A.
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Short time Motels
If you are in Manila look for this symbol. This sign is all over the place. A girl with her finger is between her lips. The name of this place is Victoria court. Another comparable motel would be "Anito". The price is almost the same, always ask for a discount card after your first visit. They are short time motel. They are clean and open 24 hours.
The taxi drivers know this place very well. If you are coming from LA CAFE, just give the taxi drive 50P.
The room costs around 550P for 3 hours. Make sure that you ask for a discount card after your visit. The discount can range from 10-30%.
Another tip: If you are taking the girl out of LA CAFE, ask her if she has a preferred motel. The girl usually have one discount card with them.
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LA Cafe Location
For those first timers and trying to find this place. LA Cafe is located at the center of Ermita. My suggestion is to take a taxi and just ask them to take you to "LA Cafe". If the taxi driver does not know where it is, just tell them "Ermita", from there look for LA Cafe. If memory serves me correct this should be "A. Mabini St." (A- Apolinario). Tell the taxi driver "Mabini" in Ermita.
The place is hard to miss since it is a one way street, you will pass a lot of bars and if you passed a Church then you gave gone to far.
If you are going Manila to Makati or vise-versa, I suggest that you take the LRT or MRT to avoid traffic, and taxi to your final destination.
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LA Cafe
I always wanted to see this place, so on my last night in MNL (2003), after getting a massage on Adriatico, I grabbed a cab and asked the driver to take me by there (wife was asleep at the hotel). Street outside was a scarey scene, told him to keep going, take me back to Cherry Blossoms Hotel on J. Bocobo, about 6 blocks away. He headed north towards UN Ave, went down some alleyways where people were eating their dinners on tables set up on the street, then hung a right into a really small alley, thought I was going to get robbed/killed, when all of a sudden we pop out on a street about 1 block down from UN Ave and fly past a Chinese place we had eaten at the previous year. Whew! I gave him a good tip.
The scene outside LA Cafe was a mob scene of tough looking characters, girls, pimps (?) and God knows who else. I guess I'll never get to try their burgers, LOL, but then there's always Jollibees.
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LA Cafe...
[b]Timber Tree[/b]
Contrary to popular belief not all taxi drivers will know where to find LA Café, if you are staying in the Ermita or Malate vicinity maybe, but if you are coming from other areas forget it. The exact address is:
[b]LA Café, Bar & Grill, 1429 M.H.Del Pilar, Ermita, Manila[/b]
Finally, the web address for Victoria Court is [url]victoriacourt.biz[/url]
[color=blue]Juniour[/color]
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Just got back from 2 weeks in the Philippines but far too short. Was there with the wife so didn't have much time to monger. But, some locals took me to Air Force One and Miss Universal. Didn't make it to Skyline this time but did make it last year.
Air Force One was a disappointment for me. Maybe because we got there so late (about 11:30pm). There was a 500 peso per person cover charge (comsumable) and beers were 190 pesos each. Spent 1000 pesos for 4 beers for 2 of us. The bill was 760 but there was a 1000 peso minimum. There were 3 or 4 groups of girls on stage we saw but none of them were anything great. I think it was about 650 pesos/hour to have one of the girls sit with you. Plus, they were all clothed.
Decided to check out the massage part. Didn't look at the Business class because I was paying for 2 people. The economy class didn't have anything special but I figured that since we were already there, I might as well partake. One girl kept giving me the eye so I chose her.
Got to the room and she asked if I wanted to have 2 girls. She said it would be 1500 for her and 1500 for the other girl.
Since I never had 2 girls I figured, why not? She even told me I could have multiple pops if I wanted.
The other girl came in and was ok but again nothing special.
We all took a shower together and then I laid on my back and let the 2 go to work.
After doing both of them with them on top and missionary, I switched to doggy with one and the other told me I could finish on her. I chose the traditional way of finishing.
I relaxed for a minute, both of them started playing with it and it was ready for round 2.
Finished, showered again with both of them, paid them the 3000 pesos and called it a night. I know I could have negotiated a lower price but I didn't think of it at the time.
I'll submit another post about Miss Universal later. That was the place to go and I went 3 times in 1 week.
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'Calambanga'
Went recently to Calamba to a place called 'Calambanga'. I found it shortly after midnight just by chance! Quite easy to go there. At the end of the South Highway turn right (to: Batangas, Legaspi), after 800 meters or so on the right hand side you see a simple wooden hut with colorful lights on the roof, 'Calambanga Bar'!
Very basic, nothing special in terms of luxury and except me no foreigners around. Six or seven tiny little rooms with very dark red lights, each good for 5 guests max. But, folkes, you will not believe it - at least 20 girls around, and 5 of them quite attractive! I was most amazed! Payed 45 pesos for a bottle San Miguel and had a critcal look on all the girls (they came to my room one by one). I decided to let Jennifer (she has unbelievable tits!) dance for me. Fee was 250 pesos for 3 dances. She was undressing herself within one minute and pressed my head between her huge tits. She made me really hot! I was rubbing her wet pussy and she was enjoying it also very much. After her show I payed her a lady's drink (same price) and ordered two more girls for another dance. Fantastic - three girls worked on me the very same time! Got a damned good bbbjtc, but am not too sure from which on of the girls, well, so what!? Two hours later I left after having a good time. Total damage was something about 1.000 pesos. Not all to bad for such a kind of unexpected experience! Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!
Hesekiels
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Miss Universal
Went there 3 times in a span of about 7 or 8 days and have nothing but great things to say. They have over 300 girls there and an aquarium to view them and I have to say they are the best girls I have seen.
Cover charge is 100 pesos consumable and beers are only 90 pesos each. All 3 times we chose to go to a VIP room which was 2500 pesos consumable. The first night 3 of us went and we each chose a girl.
I didn't really pay attention to the other 2 guys but I later heard they had a good time but only touched. I, on the other hand, had a beautiful, petite girl--a solid 9 in my book who let me touch, feel, etc. Would have let me DATY but since we shared a room (with my 2 brother-in-laws--brothers of my wife!), I didn't partake.
However, at about 3am I asked them to give me 10 minutes and the girl proceeded to give me one of the best BBBJCIM I have ever had. She was pretty drunk afterwords and I could have left without giving her anything but I felt bad and gave her 700 pesos.
We were there for several hours and our bill came to about 7300 pesos for the 3 of us. One quick note. I gave the lady 7500 pesos in 500 bills and she counted it. On our way out, we were chased down saying we only gave them 7000 pesos. We argued saying she counted it in front of us but not to cause a scene we just gave them another 500. The next 2 times we went we counted the money in front of them and asked them to verify it.
If anyone is interested I will post about the next 2 times there also.
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Miss Universal
The second time I went to Miss U I chose the same girl. She had just come from another customer so I was lucky. When I first looked in the aquarium she wasn't there and while I was looking she walked in. We didn't get there until about 12:45am.
This time I went with one of my brother-in-laws and my nephew (my wife's brother and my wife's sister's son who is an 18 year old virgin).
My BIL chose a girl for our nephew since he was too shy.
We went straight to a VIP room again. The girl told me she was drunk last time (which I knew) but that she still remembered what she did. She also insisted that she never did that for any of her customers before. I may actually believe her but I'm sure she would say that regardless if it was true or not.
Since I knew we would be spending a lot again, to give my nephew some time with his girl (who my BIL's partner said was 16), we went to another VIP room. Apparently all he got was some DFK, sucking on her boobs and some finger penetration.
In our room I was doing the usual, DFK, sucking, nibbling, etc. At about 3:00am I was able to convince her to give me a BBBJ again and she nearly threw up when I shot in her mouth. After cleaning up she had to go and dance on stage and she asked me to wait for her.
My BIL told me we should go but I hadn't given her any money and felt bad about it. Money was never discussed. I watched her dance and waited and when she was done right before 4am she came back. I paid the bill which was about 5200 pesos and gave the girl 1000 pesos and got her digits. She walked out with me holding my arm and I wonder if she would have gone home with me--but it wasn't an option since my wife was at the condo we were staying at.
Apparently my BIL got a BJ in the other room where our nephew was but the nephew was too busy to notice.
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My Manila Trip
Finally I made it to Manila along with my friend on 13th April, Since I had not made any prior reservations I asked the airport Taxi to drop us near La Cafe. we looked around and finally found rooms in Lotus Garden hotel. It cost us 1,700 pesos for a standard room. The first night we went to Ms. Universal and the place was a rip off. They asked us for 400 pesos per head as cover charge and extras for drinks. The girls in the aquiriam were for 5,500/- pesos for night. We moved on from there and went to a local pick up joint in Makati guided by our taxi driver. We picked up 2 females for 3,000/- pesos and they we as pretty as the babes in Miss U. I belive that all females in that are waiting for their visas for Japan. We took them to our rooms and they did give us a good time but wanted 500 pesos as tips/taxi. As per them they are only paid a weekly salary and depend on tips. Next night we went bar hopping in Burgos street and was stopped by many SW who wanted to give us message for 1,000/- pesos. We then landed in La Cafe and picked up 2 females for 1000/- pesos for short time. After they came to our rooms they agreed to stay the night as seem to like us. We had good fun and returned back on 15th. As we had to return one day earlier we did not get a chance to visit Angeles city. These are the useful Tagalog we learnt in 2 days.
Fuck : cantut
Blow job: Chupa
Ass Fuck : Point
Gay: Bakla/ Silahis
Trasversites : Babay lalake.
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LA Cafe - report from Harvey WB
I cannot relate to Harveys scare story a few posts below. He said he was frightened off by the assortment of characters hanging out on the sidewalk.
Well some of them may be destitute but they are harmless.
It is smack in the middle of the tourist district where hundreds of white people roam on foot at all hours of day and night, without much harm happening to them.
I would be far more afraid in the EDSA/Pasay bar area where, if you walk off 50m in the wrong direction, you really stand a good chance of being mugged.
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[QUOTE=Zork]...the assortment of characters hanging out on the sidewalk...
...roam on foot at all hours of day and night...[/QUOTE]Yes, there is even a special name for this kind of place. It is called a "City." As opposed to an area where some people in western countries hide due to fear of the unknown, called a "Suburb."
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Manila Report - 15th April
HI Guys,
Thanks for all the good info found on this forum. Here is my contribution.
Arrived in Manila on Biz. First time in the Philippines. Came in on Air Asia which I didnt realize landed at Clark Field Internation Airport. A bloody long way to Manila so as I was staying at New World Hotel I ordered a car pick up from them Php2600.
Checked in, got my biz done, waited for my boss to arrive and we went and had dinner.
(Friday Night)
I decided that we would go to EDSA complex so we arrived at 10pm. Went into PITSTOP with the intention of having a drink for 15 minutes and then checking out the other bars. WRONG!
Within 5 minutes I had an absolute sweetie sitting (lap dancing) in my lap. Sooooo cute and soooooo much good fun. Basically we stayed in the bar for about an hour and a half.
OK heres the run down. Pitstop was great. The music was great, there were about 30 girls on stage and about 10 walking around. I would rate the girls in looks from about 4 up to about 8. My girl was an 8 I reckon but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. She told me she was 20, from Davao, was a student, had only been at the bar for 4 weeks but it was her third time. i.e when school is out she works there.
The lady drinks were Php193 each and a beer for us was Php110. We bought a few for some of the girls and I got a great massage from one of the clothed girls while my bikini girl was sitting on my lap sticking her tongue down my throat or dancing sexily for me.
We both decided to barfine our respective girls which cost Php1000 each which was added to our drink bill. I checked a close watch on our drink bill during the night and it was spot on, so no ripoff attempt was made which was nice.
When I enquired how much my girl wanted for the night she told me up to me. The girl giving me the massage whispered Php2000 or Php3000 whatever.
Went back to the hotel with a fun taxi drive, the girls were hilarious. Then the walk of shame, not so hilarious. Had to check the girls in with front desk, they had to produce id and phone numbers and so forth. That kinda sucked.
Anyway up to our respective rooms, onto the couch where we made out for about half an hour. She asked me if she could have some beers as she would be less shy (ha! she wasnt shy then) I said she could help herself so she drank 2. Then she undressed me and herself and back onto the couch for more making out.
Then to the shower where she produced her own strawberry smelling Ph soap gel and we washed each other up good and proper she gave a great blowjob in the shower. Then out to the bed where she continued great blowjob then it was my turn to DATY. Checked her out well she smelled and looked great so off to town I went.
Then a nice but extremely 1 minute quick bonk. She was a tad disappointed but I told what did she expect when she basically gave me a lap dance for an hour and a half and then a blow job. She laughed and gave me 15 minutes break before we went at it again. This time she came in about 10 minutes but let me continue for another 20 so I could finish. On the couch, on the bed, against the window, her on top, missionary, doggie, spoons you name it and all the time she just wanted to kiss and kiss which worked for me given how cute she looked.
Anyway I slept like crap that night and I had a meeting at 9.30am so I left her in bed and returned around 11am and she was still sleeping. Woke her up and we had one for the road and she kept telling me how much she liked me etc etc etc. I had to kick her out as I had more meetings but told her I would meet her again that night. I wasnt sure If I would or not. She maybe figured that so gave me her phone and email address. Slipped her Php2800 which she didnt even count.
I gave her a call that night but her phone rang out. Nevermind I was feeling not all that well so went to bed alone Saturday night and flew out the next morning.
I know I probably overpaid but I thought it was really worth it. I have been to BKK many many times and my first experience here in PI was defintely excellent. On par if not better. Love the fact you can have a fantastic conversation outside of the normal 10 questions.
Jon
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I guess your wife didn't get too much lovin while you were in the Philippines.. ha ha, don't worry, I'd try the same thing myself if I was in that predicament , just like many of the other guys. I remember walking around in Thailand many times, and wondering why the guys brought wives along. Maybe they gave their wives some movie money, or said here's some money, go shopping baby.
[QUOTE=Sugoi]Just got back from 2 weeks in the Philippines but far too short. Was there with the wife so didn't have much time to monger. But, some locals took me to Air Force One and Miss Universal. Didn't make it to Skyline this time but did make it last year.
Air Force One was a disappointment for me. Maybe because we got there so late (about 11:30pm). There was a 500 peso per person cover charge (comsumable) and beers were 190 pesos each. Spent 1000 pesos for 4 beers for 2 of us. The bill was 760 but there was a 1000 peso minimum. There were 3 or 4 groups of girls on stage we saw but none of them were anything great. I think it was about 650 pesos/hour to have one of the girls sit with you. Plus, they were all clothed.
Decided to check out the massage part. Didn't look at the Business class because I was paying for 2 people. The economy class didn't have anything special but I figured that since we were already there, I might as well partake. One girl kept giving me the eye so I chose her.
Got to the room and she asked if I wanted to have 2 girls. She said it would be 1500 for her and 1500 for the other girl.
Since I never had 2 girls I figured, why not? She even told me I could have multiple pops if I wanted.
The other girl came in and was ok but again nothing special.
We all took a shower together and then I laid on my back and let the 2 go to work.
After doing both of them with them on top and missionary, I switched to doggy with one and the other told me I could finish on her. I chose the traditional way of finishing.
I relaxed for a minute, both of them started playing with it and it was ready for round 2.
Finished, showered again with both of them, paid them the 3000 pesos and called it a night. I know I could have negotiated a lower price but I didn't think of it at the time.
I'll submit another post about Miss Universal later. That was the place to go and I went 3 times in 1 week.[/QUOTE]
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The funny thing is that I went with my wife's brothers. The first time to MU was with both of her brothers, the next time to Air Force One was with her oldest brother, the second time to MU was with her older brother and her sister's son and the last time was with the same brother I went to Air Force One with. Apparently their dad told his sons to teach me to "fool around" a little so that I can relieve some stress that his daughter might cause me.
Definitely a different culture over there . . .
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Mu
I have a little time so I will post about my last time at Miss Universal.
The night before we were leaving my wife's oldest brother picked me up at around 6:30pm. We stayed at the condo for a little watching tv because their sister was on the news.
We finally left at about 7:15pm and made it to MU at about 7:45pm. While we were on our way there I was texting the same girl asking if she would be there. She said she lived in Quezon City and was on her way and she asked me to wait for her.
Since it was early it was empty and we sat right by the stage and had a couple of beers. I already had my girl picked out but my BIL didn't so he was watching attentively. The floor manager pointed out one girl saying she was only 17 and really wild. After watching a few more rounds of girls, at about 8:45pm he chose that girl and we went to a room.
The girl I chose finally showed up in the room at about 9:15pm and I stood just inside the door looking at the show out the window to give my BIL some privacy. When she finally showed up, I told her she needed to be punished for making me wait so long.
After a lot of DFK, touching, kissing of each others' chests, etc., she told me 2 of her teeth were hurting and that she had to have them pulled the next day. So, she couldn't give me a BBBJ again--and she again insisted she hadn't done that for anyone before.
About 15 minutes before we had to leave my BIL and his partner left the room and she gave me a decent HJ. Bill was about 4000 pesos.
Tipped her 1000 pesos again and left.
I've seen some reports on MU and I agree that it is expensive to barfine a girl here but they do have some of the youngest and prettiest girls I have seen. There are over 300 girls there and many of them aren't the "slutty" type. I like it and it is my preference of places to go.
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so little time
Gentlemen, I normally spend my mongering time in BKK, however I find myself going to the RP for some diving, and thought I would compare the talent.
I will be arriving MNL from BKK nest saturday afternoon, April 30, and I have 1 afternoon / evening to myself, before picking up the little woman at the airport, and going off diving.
It has been suggested to me by a fellow WSG member that I should stay at the city / state hotel, and go to the LA. I have gone back around 18 pages or so, and thank all for the informative posts. I would, however like to get the most bang for my buck, so here is the question to you long timers.
If you were arriving in the late afternoon, would you do as above, or something else? if any knowledgeable fellows are in town, and would like to get together, I'll buy the first couple of rounds.
Thank you in advance.
1ball
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Miss Universal
Where exactly is place? Has somebody the address?
Hesekiels
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[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Where exactly is place? Has somebody the address?
Hesekiels[/QUOTE]
I was taken there and don't have any idea where it is but I'm sure someone here can help.
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Miss Universal
If this is Miss Universal in Harrison Street, Malate at the Roxas
Boulevard end, maybe you should know that it is mostly for the rich: Japanese and John Dominos in the main.
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Don’t get me started here……
[quote] Quote by 1Ball,
It has been suggested to me by a fellow WSG member that I should stay at the city / state hotel, and go to the LA. I have gone back around 18 pages or so, and thank all for the informative posts. I would, however like to get the most bang for my buck, [/quote]
[b]1Ball[/b]
Having also read many of the posts before I also went to the LA Café back in March ’03 I would have to say that you should take them all with a large pinch of salt, 20 beers and bottle of cognac. A lot of guys seem to like the place because its cheap, the drink prices, the decor and there are no bar fines, all well and good. However, let’s not get confused here, that is as far as it goes, there are no former beauty queens or college student just making a few bucks on the side to help them through their studies, this is a myth, the place has a couple of average girls, some skanky ones in there mixed in with a few hard nosed pros - that is the reality.
If you are coming to Manila just for the LA Café, then I would suggest that you are in for a disappointment, all of these guys who have claimed to have picked up a stunning 9s or 10s in the place and given them what 500 Pesos for [I]tuda da noite[/I] (all night), hmmmmm, I have yet to be convinced since these same guys have never posted a photo.
The few guys who have posted photos of girls from the LA café have been honest about what they paid, and some of them were not cheap, and the girls were average.
In my opinion if you want more bangs for your bucks then I would suggest, if possible, go up to Angeles City. It’s a bit of a shit hole of a town, but it is what it is, and you have to weight up the cost of getting there for one night is worth it. However, for your money, and it is cheap, the girls plentiful, a wide range of quality, it’s a better bet, guaranteed to enjoy yourself, rather than playing the Lotto at the LA Café.
[color=blue]Juniour[/color]
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Comparing LA Cafe and Angeles
To be honest there may not be a lot of 8s, 9s, or 10s in LA Cafe but these are a few, it is all a matter of taste. I found some fresh 18s and 19s year old cousin. Talk to the mamasan and she will recommended some GOOD girls. I took a girl out in LA Cafe and you know what happens next. Unfortunately I have a flight back to America in a few hours. Anyway after the first round the girl starts dressing up and wanted to leave but I told her that we were not done yet.
I told her she can go if she wants to but I'm not paying her anything if she leaves now. When I said that she started undressing again and I'm getting ready for round two. After the session she wanted to leave again and that darn cell phone keeps on ringing. I finally agreed that she can leave but she was such in a rush that she left her watch.
If I did not have a flight, I would have called her up the next and ask if she wants her watch back and she needs to f*ck me for it. Anyway I gave it to my cousin and I'm not sure what happened next.
The girls in Angeles I found a few that I liked and what I said before it is all a matter of taste. But the chances of having variety of girls will be in LA Cafe.
Note to the mongers who have been in Miss Universal, some of the girls go to LA Cafe after their shift. If you found a girl in Miss Universal I suggest that you drop by LA cafe you can avoid the barfine. And if have the balls you can just go to the 7-11 right next to Miss Universal. You will notice that the girls will make eye contact with you and work it from there.
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Juniour and Timber Tree, thanks for the info, and no, I am not only coming to MNL for LA cafe. I'm going diving. I would gladly stay in BKK, where I know my way around. It just so happens that flight connections being what they are, I find myself having to overnight in MNL. Can't make it to AC, so I thought I would go out, and do a little comparison shopping. Not into gogos, I just like a nice bar, where the girls are fun, and willing. For those who know BKK, something like Beergarden, or Gulliver's, though I have been told that doesn't exist.
So if LA is not the best place to go, where should I go to pick up a couple of FLs who like to suck dick AND eat pussy ??? (am I being too demanding ?)
Thanks
1ball
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Bottoms Up
Try Hotel Rotondo near Edsa. The skanks charge about 300 pesos up with another 100 for the hotel for two hours.
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Need Alabang area information
Soon I will be making my yearly trip to Manila, and will be staying in the Alabang area. Can anyone guide me as to where I can get some action and or sensual massage in this area.
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Something about LA Cafe
As a frequent visitor to LA Cafe over the last two years, I agree with Juniour's assessment. Former beauty queens and amateur students are the exception to the reality. Although I have seen some above average talent, the bulk of the girls are single mothers, pros, japanese/korean leechers or simple skanks. Even for the above talent girls, I have never personally paid less than PHP1000 for ST. I never met a girl who was totally unaware of the general ST rate, and in fact I have met many who have tried to exceed it.
For my personal mode of mongering, I love the LA Cafe. Food and drink is reasonably priced. I can always play a challenging game of pool. Upbeat music. It is easy to mingle with the girls. I never feel hassled. Lots of reasons to escape to LA. But different guys will see LA Cafe differently.
That being said, I wanted to offer a personal tip for getting the most out of LA Cafe. As I only have infrequent visits to MNL (once every 6-8 weeks), I don't have the ability to spot the latest girls. To compensate, I have made friends with a few of the older girls - the "mamasans." They will ususally approach you and ask if you are looking for a girl, especially if you look a bit new to the place. By buying a few cokes/orange juices/beers and sharing my specific requirements (under 20, fresh, slim, okay for video/pictures - don't be shy to ask!), these mamasans are happy to point out appropriate talent. Whether or not I take a girl, my mamasans have been quite good at picking out the gems. They will be especially effective at finding those doe eyed innocent just-came-from-the-province girls. These girls can be a little uneasy about going out, but an introduction from the mamasan as a good guy (and I am!) sets everything at ease because she will explain where my hotel is, how much I will pay, that I am a "decent guy," etc. The mamasan will not tell you this, but she will require the girl to pay her a fee - the infamous "commission" - for the introduction, which means that the girl will want to do ST so she can go back to settle up with mommy. If you take a longer-term approach to LA Cafe, I think that using the mamasans can be useful.
As an aside, I find no other country where girls are so willing to introduce you to other girls. The girls call it commission, but it certainly has the flavor of pimping. Some girls seem to understand that you aren't interested in them personally, but will still try to make a few pesos by making an introduction. If you take a really long-term approach (as I have done), it is possible to find a girl who will take care of your needs. They will not only introduce you to girls from the bar, but there are girls who seem to have an endless supply of cousins, friends and neighbors that they can introduce to you. Later I will write something in the Opinions section to elaborate.
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LA Cafe
If you read back far enough you will find a post from a guy who did research here and figured out who had good experiences in LA Cafe, and liked the place, and those that did not. The vast overwhelming majority liked LA Cafe and totally disagreed with the assessments of the few.
I payed 500 Pesos with small tips for great service. You dont need a mamasan or anyone else to hold your hand in there, all the girls are available and you can just do it yourself. If you want to use a mamasan, thats your business and if you need it, then more power to you. I dont care either way what guys do.
Some guys cant help themselves when it comes to paying girls. They cant stop forking over money as they have some kind of embarrassment complex over being perceived as cheap. Of course, these are the guys who have no idea how much 500 pesos is to a filipino, or just cant understand it for whatever reason.
All you need is yourself and some balls in LA Cafe. I, and most others have had tremendous success there. Dont let the few who run down the place stop any newbies from going there. You dont have to pay anymore than you want. You are the king, you decide how much and how long and to hell with what anyone else thinks about you.
You are not the Red Cross, The U.N., or any other Aid organization. You are not there for charity purposes, you are there to get fucked and what you pay is, and should be, determined by the payer in establishements like the LA Cafe.
Later boys
Milkster
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L.A. Cafe
Hello Friends!
I do like the critcal review on L.A. Cafe very much! However, in my opinion Mikster, Member #3364 and also Juniour are all somehow right with their point of views! And that's great, isn't it!?
Thank to '*************' I went to that place about 6 weeks ago (my very first time) and I really enjoyed my time there! At lunchtime (!) I took two girls for ST to SOGO hotel (Mabini) for having about 3 hours great sex. No beauty queens, no doubt about it, but both were young and somehow cute. I had payed 1.500 pesos each plus 365 pesos for the hotel and it was worth it! Although one of them was indeed a single mother (so what?) and the other one was 'a student' (so what?) I had absolutely nothing to complain! Why should I? And the best thing was no barfine, no mamasan and a very little amount for two drinks in L.A. Cafe.
Sure, in places like f.i. 'Skyline Health Club' you have a much better chance for finding a real 'beauty queen' with excellent make-up, perfect performance in bed, best manners and so on, but that is also a matter of price (for a 1 hour 15 minutes it costs you about 3.500 pesos). So, if you are rather quality concerned as I believe Juniour is, that might be the better place for you. But for an easy fuck L.A. Cafe will do! It all depends what your priorities are. At least next time I will go to both places again! Why not finding the 'right mix'?
Hesekiels
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More LA
I agree with Mikster. Nobody should be discouraged from trying LA Cafe. It is a nice spot which has provided me and many others with delightful chicas at a reasonable price.
To clarify from my previous post, nobody needs handholding to get a girl in LA Cafe. They literally fall all over you when you walk in the door. I only use my mamasan friends to point out fresh talent. I posted some pics to the photo gallery of one of my former LA girls - definitely not bottom of the barrel.
LA Cafe - Try it, you will most likely enjoy it!
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Just keep it real on the LA Café
Its kind of funny the amount of guys here who claim to be quote “Experts” unquote, after having been to the Philippines what only once, and start offering advice to [i]newbies[/i], yet these guys are the same ones who, if we are to believe their claims, score beauty queen type girls found at the LA Café for all night paying the what 500 pesos?
To be honest and l have stated this time and time again don’t have a problem with the LA Café, if these experts and anybody else want to hang out there then good for them. However, I do have a problem with these guys posting bogus information and then on the basis of this flame other guys who post their genuine honest accounts. Do you know how many guys have said to me that they would never post again because these clowns attacked their posts, claiming they were novices and ruining the scene by grossly over-paying.
Last year, I actually read some of these clowns’, so-called posts, (it took all of about five minutes) and despite the big claims they have made there was nothing substantial to support their posts - so I say again put up or shut up! They rubbished a couple of girls, who’s photos I posted and claimed I had been done twice because these girl were not even hot. Despite finding these 500 Pesos beauty queen and claiming to have photos, I am still waiting some 15 months later and hundred of excuses later for them to [u]post just one photo.[/u]
To this date they have not posted one photo of these 500 pesos beauty queens they claim to find .. I leave you to make up your mind as to why they have not.
Now I am not expecting you to take my side or the others but simply make up your own mind, if you really believe these clowns claim then simply meet up with them, PM them and let them teach you how to be a great monger like they are and post the results. Like someone who did just that and met up with one of these so-called “experts” and went around with him after all the promises he had been led to believe about what to expect and it wasn’t a question of what girl he wanted but how many. Well, he said went he went and met up with this expert, all he saw was a few average girls that were charging an exorbitant high price, much higher than he had been led to believe, especially for the quality. Then this experts was like:, [i]“hmmmm if you’d have been here last week it was like really crazy with the women throwing themselves at guys, and perhaps they have all gone on vacation or if you’d have come any other time but now.”[/i] But yet, when this guy was corresponding with this guy beforehand and asked when is the best time to come he was told – “anytime.”
This is a forum and we are all entitled to our opinions and share information, but I don’t come here to read about tall stories or wild exploits of a bunch of losers posting bogus information just to make themselves feel good because they have nothing else going on in their lives. Nor do I want to see these guys fawning over one-another like some homo-erotic couple, telling one another how good they are whilst kissing each others asses.
Let me assure you that if I never posted here again, I would still be travelling around the world enjoying myself. I post to share accurate information because when I go to new places I want to read accurate information not bogus fantasy stuff, I am returning the favour. Unfortunately, these type of loser personalities are not confined to the Philippines thread there are some other threads where guys post such fantastic stories about non- existent clubs and what they did and didn’t do with these model type girls. I recall searching for one club and do you know how much I offered taxi drivers, a month salary, if they could find this place and despite the amount of money on offer not one driver could find this so-called club in four days. Why, because it didn’t exist, so if you are going to post information here let’s just keep it real, we’re all human and prone to exaggeration but exaggeration is one thing but lying to yourself is something else, that’s for a loser personality.
Nice going genius, yes we are not the United Nations or the Red Cross but its guys like you and your attitude who ruin mongering for us all, if you understood economics you would appreciate that in real terms and the strength of the Peso have devalued. Maybe if you understood women you might realise that in the Philippines it doesn’t have to be all about monetary terms to score.
Just for information just because a girl is 18 or 19 year old and is “fresh” (whatever that means exactly) doesn’t make her a 9 or a 10, let me assure you I have travelled far more extensively than many of the guys here and I do know the difference between a girl who is a 9 or 10, and your 9 or 10s are my 5s & 6s when you guys can start posting photos of these 500 Pesos solid 9 beauty queens – I will be one of the first making my way down to the LA Café.
As for this guy that did research as to who likes the LA Café and who does not, proves nothing because a Leemings will follow one another off the edge of cliff. I think a lot of guys don’t understand the concept of cheapness and quality and many guys wrongly assume that because they have paid small money for some skanky girl for 15 minutes ST they have got actually got themselves some quality. So I ask once again, where are the photos guys?? I do enjoy the odd skanky girl but l can find them in AC but at a far less price, than I could ever get in the LA Café; but on the whole, I have had better results in terms of quality in EDSA, AF1, and Burgos St for the choice and price available.
And Timber Tree, don’t take this personally, your last post make me laugh every time I read it, but please tell me how can you find more girls in the LA Café than in AC? That cracks me up, bless. :-)
All I am saying here, go out and enjoy the LA Café but let’s just keep it real and leave the fantasy postings to elsewhere.
[color=blue]Juniour[/color]
[i]PS Mikster, l must have missed your post from back in Jan/Feb because if I recall correctly, you claimed last year that you had 5 weeks vacation that you were going to spend them in the Philippines, I trust you didn’t loose any more relatives, again, forcing you to cancel your plans for a second time?[/i]
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LA Cafe and Angeles
Yo Junior,
Better check your glasses. I never said that there more girls in LA Cafe than Angeles. I said there are more VARIETY of girls in LA Cafe. You are trying to compare a Club to an entire city. If you do the math of course Angeles would have more girls. How about comparing Manila and Makati to Angeles. Which has the bigger population?
Are you implying that in Angeles only has beauty queens and 10s are all over the place. Are you also saying that LA Cafe has only 0s and 1s.
Prove to me that Angeles is 1000% better than Manila and Makati, or yet all over the world. It seems you like your opinion take precedence all others, and we should not visit any other clubs without your permission. Since you are the "so-called" expert.
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I've not been a fan of LA cafe as I had Elvie for the past year's biz trips. But since we both broke off that rather convenient arrangement (for me visits, her $20 sent around every 7 weeks); plus I now stay at the new Hyatt rather than Makati, I think I may well check LA out. I would not pay more than 2,500 for any girl in the Philippines, how will that go down with the LA cafe young set? Good thing about a guaranteed score in a bar is that you choose, or just get pissed, or both.
The thing I like most about sex in the Philippines is that the younger local women almost immediately expect you to ask them to come to your hotel room and are not offended when you do. Quite often they agree, knowing exactly what they will 'get' and have to do. Its as simple as that. I've had some of the dirtiest mutually agreed sex of my life in the Philippines.
And freebies really are the best. I think there is something about the girls saying to their mates there that they had a foreigner in x-hotel. But it does take quite a bit of build up (three night trip).
Eitherway, no place or method of picking up a girl is anybetter than the other as long as you like the girl.
Peace. Fuck. Love.
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LA Cafe
I am no expert and don't claim to be one. I have seen Juniour's pictures and admit they aren't 9's or 10's in my book. However, each his/her own when it comes to rating the looks of girls. I cannot post pictures because if my wife saw pictures of strange girls she would have evidence to divorce me. I can definitely say that if you saw pictures of girls I like, you may think I was crazy.
My take on LA Cafe is that you need to have confidence in yourself. Some girls will come up to you if you are alone and say hello. In the three weeks I visited which was about 12 times. I was approached about 15 times. Some nights not once, other times 2 or three times. Only once did I end up with one of these girls coming back w/ me after seeing her again later in the evening. (It was the worst experience I had)
You need to be able to go up to a girl and say hello just like in a US bar. You need to be able to have a conversation (limited English on her part) to get to know her a little. You can just go up and ask her to come back w/ you and how much, but I found this to be rude when I heard other guys doing it that way.
The most I paid to a girl was P$2000 for an all nighter. There was one girl who didn't even ask for money (Mica), and she hung w/me for three days. I ended up giving her 2500 which she tried to refuse, but I insisted.
Anyways, as everywhere else, YMMV. This forum is for an exchange of information. Check the place out for yourself. Downstairs there is no cover charge. Upstairs there is a nominal P$100-150 for the live music from 8 pm to 2 am. LA is located in Ermita, and they have security at the door and "bouncers" inside if you don't like what is hanging outside.
Ted
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Will you all stop bitching and just post something useful about the LA Café
[b]Ladies[/b]
I appreciate some of you cannot write very well but now it seems I am learning you cannot read either.
If any of you can show me where I have ever claimed that Angeles City is the best place to find the best 7, 8, 9s girls in the Philippines or where I have claimed to have posted photos of girls who were 9s or 10s? I will buy your drinks all night long in the LA Café. The only girls I have ever posted photos of which I would rate as 9s were in Brazil and two from DR and that’s it!
If you want to ***** about something, take my advice and first try reading what they have to say about what you’re now [I]minging[/I] on about.
So take my advice and learn to read & write [b]RTFF[/b] but [b] IF[/b] you have something useful to post then please feel free and use this space.
[b]POST USEFUL INFORMATION IN THIS SPACE ONLY [/b]
To be honest there are only three clowns on this forum, possible four, I don’t think I am better than them – I know I am!!
[color=blue] Juniour[/color]
[i]PS Mikster the truth hurths doesn't it?[/i]
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What the Hell?
I've been out of town for a few days and have had no access to this board, so the controversy raised by the most recent posts came as news to me. I do not like the personal, ad hominem attacks directed at Juniour. They would be inappropriate if directed at anyone, but are particularly ludicrous when written to somone who probably writes the most detailed, non-judmental, and literate articles on the board.
I have lived here and elsewhere in SE Asia for a long time, and I've been to the LA Cafe and many of the other sleazy haunts countless times, yet I never fail to be amused at Juniour's descriptions of his experiences there, and I often learn something. Without meaning to start a new war Mikester, I have no idea of the point of your posts. All of the guys here are free to pay what they please, go with whom they please, go where they please and when they please. If their descriptions of their adventures strikes a responsive chord, fine, If not, simply ignore the post. What's the problem here?
I would suppose that if one waited long enough, you could find an honest 9 or 10 walking through the doors of the LA Cafe, though I have never actually sighted one. However, it's a fun place, and it takes very little other than a smile and a "hi" to get next to any of the ladies there.
Keep up the posting Juniour.
:D
GE
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LA Cafe
When I go to the LA Cafe I have found that if I go in and relax and have a few beers that the women come up to me and start talking and soon it leads to a discussion of them coming back to my hotel with me. I try to be calm and show some interest, but not too much. She usually quotes me a price that is relatively high and I tell her that is much more than I can afford even though I find her very attractive and I would like her to come back to my room with me.
Usually the girl will continue to talk with me and I will buy her a drink at this point. As we talk, she keeps on quoting me lower and lower prices. In my experience the girl will stop lowering her price at 300 pesos, at which point I usually accept. The girls are not model types, but just average in appearance, which is fine for me, since I am not model type so I don't expect one in return. The service I have gotten from these girls has ranged from excellent to I wish I did it myself.
On several occassions I have been able to get two girls to come back to my room with me and have a threesome, with some interesting action between the girls for only 600 pesos.
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L.A. Cafe
What I (as a newbie) would really like to know is, is there a chance to make an 'appointment' with one of the waitresses? Some of them I found quite attractive! Has anybody experience with that?
Hesekiels
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[QUOTE=Hesekiels]What I (as a newbie) would really like to know is, is there a chance to make an 'appointment' with one of the waitresses? Some of them I found quite attractive! Has anybody experience with that?
Hesekiels[/QUOTE]Yes, it is very possible. Probably not with all of them, but there are definitely some who would go with you. I had one was very interested in me and asked to meet me after she got off. I told her I would, but her shift wasn't set to end until an hour later. I figured I would just hang out there and drink a few more beers and wait for her, but it didn't work out. I ended up being approached by another regular LA girl and was just talking with her. Startred getting an extreme jealous vibe from the waitress, with lots of dirty looks directed towards the other girl. Whenever she had a chance, she would come over and basicly interupt our conversation. Well the other girl easily picked up the vibe and left me alone saying she didn't want any trouble with my "girlfriend". A few minutes later I was approached again by another girl, and ended up going through the same process. After that, nobody would approach me, presumably because I was marked as taken. I got the impression that the waitress thought she was better than the working girls and wasn't appreciating the possessive vibe. So I got up, told her I would have to cancel our plans and I would go back and see her tomorow. Pretended like I was leaving and as soon as she went into the kitchen I doubled back, went upstairs and found someone else.
Anyhow, back to your question. From my understanding(correct me if I'm wrong) lots of the waitresses are girls who used to hang out at LA Cafe. I've heard they turnover the staff quite frequently. I guess you could say that they hire from within. While the waitresses do have a source of legitimate income, it seems likely that they would be willing to supplement it, epecially given the environment the work in. I think I read here sometime back that once their contracts are about to expire, they are scrambling to hook up. Just don't be fooled into thinking they are any different than the other girls there.
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LA Cafe and other stuff
I've been a regular traveler to the Philippines for many years, and moved out here permanently 2 months ago for both business and PLEASURE.
I'll start with my take on LA Cafe. First, if the place was no good, why are there more westerners looking for pussy there then the next 10 most popular bars combined. On a busy weekend night, there are about 150 guys there. The entire patronage of EDSA complex, for example, is maybe 50 customers at most, and there are 6 bars in EDSA. Yes, it is true that the vast majority of women at LA Cafe are just plain ugly. That is because of the open nature of the bar. However, make no mistake that you can find beautiful women there. You can also find girls new to the game. You can find naive young Filipinas who heard it is a great place to meet a nice western guy. You can find some of the absoute nastiest, ugliest, fattest women that are embarrasment to the profession. You can find virgins there. The problem is that the volume of worn out, ugly *****s crowd everything else out. The reason that so many of the customers are expats is that for them, if they spend a night in the place and come up empty handed, no problem. But if you only have two weeks, you may want to think twice before spending an evening there. I rarely go there now only because my free time is limited and with traffic from Makati, it takes about 45 minutes to get there. And when I do go, I usually find nothing. HOWEVER, some of the most beautiful, nicest Filipinas I have ever met, I met there. But if you consider that I have been to LA Cafe about 50 times, and only ever had 7 or 8 women there, you can get an idea that it is not a place that you can just go and pick up a honey, unless you are just not very particular. With the Firehouse, for example, you can so there at any time and walk out with a cuttie in less than 5 minutes. The difference is that with the Firehouse, there is no doubt what you are getting. With LA Cafe, you can meet different types of girls.
Due to my limited time, I generally go to massage parlors. While I prefer bargirls, my free time is usually limited to daytime hours and most bars open at 6:00. The beat massage parlor I have found is Starfleet. Make sure you visit both levels - different girls on each. If you go before 7:00, it is 1,200 for the room and 2,000 for the girl. Many of the girls there are 8's and 9's (yes, much, much better then you would typically find at LA Cafe). There is also Air Force one a couple of buildings down, but I was not impressed by what I found there. In Makati, Palacio Don Pedro has a very good line up as well, but it is 2,000 for the room and 2,000 for the girl.
When I do get nights out, I limit my search to three places - EDSA complex, the new entertainment complex in Paranaque, and Visions bar on Roxas. While Visions is out there by itself and you can't walk to another bar if you don't find anything, the high quality of the women there make it worth the trip, and it is only a 5 minute taxi ride from EDSA Complex. P Burgoss is more convenient to where I live, but the high prices and more "professional" attitude of the girls generally motivate me to make the trip to EDSA, although I have certainly found some real hotties there.
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That's cool Faulk
Hey,
At least you can dish it out in equal servings. Those were real helpful posts by the way. Whatever you may think of some of the latest postings here, information was dished out in one form or the other to be used by whomever may want to decide for themselves.
Has the ***** mongering board become so completely PC that we cant even banter among ourselves and have disagreements? Should we all just say nice Oprah type comments and not offend anyone at all no matter how strongly we may disagree?
Jeez, this is a ***** MONGERING board after all, isn't it? Let's dont make it the pussified board boys. After all, its pussy we are after and if we all fall in line after one guy or the other then we may not get the full experience when in country. Lighten up a bit and enjoy the ride. Literally. hahah
Juniour....travel plans, dates, hotel, etc. I am waiting. Thanks in advance.
Milkster
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Golf
A little off topic (sorry Mikster and Junior) but I'm arriving on May 22nd for one week and was wondering if there are any golfers looking for a game. If so, send me a PM.
BTW, regarding the quality and cost at LA Cafe did I ever mention the last time I was there I was approached by an absolute stunner who bought me drinks all night long! Afterwords, she paid for the cabfare back to my room, fucked my brains out and then when I was not looking slipped 500 pesos in my pants pocket! I felt a little cheap but it was a nice gesture anyway.
Seriously, looking forward to arriving in a few weeks and as Rodney King would say "Why can't we all just get along??"
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Mla
Hello,
Writing from Dave's Straw Hat Bungaloes on Boracay Island.
Spent just one night in MLA so stayed near the airport at Copacapaba Hotel (1800 pesos, very nice deep water pool). It is next door to the Heritage (twice the price) which is located at the corner of Roxas and EDSA Street. For newbies - read the acronym, not the letters.
Taxi from airport. If you use the 'service' on the ground floor (arrivals) they will overcharge. I was quoted 230. I went upstairs and grabbed a taxi there. Meter was under 60 pesos when I reached the Copa. The thing that really shocked me was the taxi driver asked me to put on my seatbelt. He also never beeped his horn the entire trip. Unfortunately, it was just a fluke. I tipped him well.
Across from the hotel is the EDSA complex. Lots of beauties, few customers. The firehouse was best, but I ended up barfining two (both from Mindanao)from the place just to the left of Firehouse. I dont remember the name. One girl there has Jamaican roots. Six foot tall, busty, and very articulate for a bar girl. Instead of asking me to bar fine her, she asked me if I was good at sex. Something new that I never experienced before is that they try to sell Viagra along with your bar fine.
I didnt barfine the big girl, since I like them petite. One that came back to the room with me weighed 40kg.
The girls I had were new. Neither had a phone. The one I wanted was a bit shy, so I barfined the friend to keep things relaxed and friendly. Does that make sense?
Lots of cuties here on Boracay, but many are just tourists. The few that propositioned me looked to have some mileage on them. Ill try to write more in the appropriate areas.
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EDSA Complex
Some more questions, if you don't mind (I really do appreciate your kind support! Many thanks Sleepy Floyd, Juniour and others!):
Can you pick a girl from, let's say, 'Firehouse' just for short time? What would be the price for that? Is there a 'short time hotel' next to EDSA complex? And, before I forget, when are the first cuties around (7:00 p.m.)?
Hesekiels
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Edsa
If you are going to be in Manila for any period of time you can just stay at the Copacabana Hotel which is directly across the street from EDSA. I remember looking out my window and seeing the place and saying, "holy shit, I didnt think I was this close!" I dont personally know of any short time hotels, but others may. You can get a great deal at the Copacabana, its a very good hotel for the price and it has a great swimming pool to entertain your many new friends. I dont remember exactly what kind of deal I got there when I went, but it was around 1200 to 1500 pesos on the top floor. Its around 15 minutes from LA Cafe and maybe 30 to Makati during non rush hours. No problemo with chicas at all.
You can get short time at EDSA just like anywhere else. I never did a short time there but I would imagine that it depends on the quality of the girl and what she is willing to take. Dont forget the bar fine as well. Dont know if the bar fine is less for short time but its worth asking and bargaining for it.
It can get expensive at EDSA if you go for a really hot girl. I would try my luck at LA Cafe and get a decent girl there for all night for 500 pesos, or whatever you want to pay. Remember, you dont have to bring up money in the LA Cafe. If she doesnt bring it up then no need for you to either. Just take her back and start banging.
One guy mentioned that there was some kind of known price for ST and LT in LA Cafe. Sort of like a union set price or something. Thats hogwash as many guys have attested to.
Anyway, when I was in EDSA I was quoted 1000 to 1500 for barfine, then anywhere from 1500 to 3000 for long term. I met a girl there and she was getting off in a couple hours, it was my very first night and she came over and I ended up giving her 1500 in the morning as I knew she would probably have thrown a fit for anything less and she delivered the merchandise up all night long and in the morning as well. Excellent first experience. Dont forget to try and meet the girls after their shift, you can skip the barfine then.
Good luck
Milkster
PS: Juniour, travel plans, dates, hotel, etc. please.
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Hesekiels,
Most EDSA girls prefer short time, and many will not even offer long time - this is not Angeles. Most cuties start arriving around 8:00 pm. The best time to arrive is about 7:45 so you will have first shot at the hot ones when they come in. It is not unusual for the best girls to get barfined within minutes after taking the stage. There are several short time hotels right across the street. The best is Victoria Court. It is 600 Pesos for short time, as opposed to several in the 400 - 500 pesos range, but it really is worth the $2 difference. You would really have to be a down and out Filipino to chose a dump at 500 pesos, when Victoria Court has very nice rooms for 100 pesos extra. Make sure you tell the taxi driver "victoria court Luneta", just accross the street, as some will take you to Victoria Court Malate to get a bigger fare.
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Will be in manila on june, 16
Hi Gents,
I am Mike. I will be there in Manila on June 16 and was wondering if I could meet up with someone and we could find some girls and have a good time. I am there for a day or 2. Just to have some company to talk and drink with. I am in Manila about every 3 months but really don't have any friends to hang with there, so weather its your first time or your like me always there, drop me a line and lets have a good time.
I stay either in Paco Manila or The Heritage.
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Airforce One - Pros and Cons
Having done the tour now in Manila for my second time, I wanted to share with all the North American mongers that if you're looking for a "clean" settup, you can't beat AirForce one in Manila.
ie. though EDSA is a great location to pick up some hot young thing, the social setting was a little too 'dirty' for one of my partners in crime who's a regular monger in the United States.
Going into AirForce one is like going into a massage parlour in San Fran - but much nicer.
The down side of AirForce one - I'm not sure if anyone has noticed - is that the light and glass that you view the girls through is very deceptive. I'm not sure if this is true or not (I swear there where 3 of us, and none of us was drunk) but all 3 commented that the girl that walked into our rooms was not the same girl that we selected through the glass - all where fatter, shorter, and darker.
I doubt they'd try the bait and switch on us. So something's up with this funky mirror laden glass in the viewing area.
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Golf & Bartolina
I was just in Manila for a few weeks and I must played golf 3 times a week. I've been lucky enough to meet some guys that play 2-3 times a week and belong to several country clubs. But that not what I'm posting about. Some of the guys I know took New York Pinoy and I to a club called Bartolina in Cubao. Its a fairly small place and they only had 20 or so girls but 90 percent of the girls are HOT and had huge tits! It must be a requirement.
Took one of the girls into the VIP room and just had a wild time. Apparently this side of town is not too safe if you're travelling alone.
IB
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Copacabana Hotel
Hi All
Over in Manila for a few days for a trade show. Usually live in Bkk so keen to do a little experimenting. I will arrive very late at night .... what time does EDSA stay open until?
The Copacabana Hotel sounds just the place for me. Is there a number anyone can give me. Does not seem to be very cheap online.
Also how near is the exhibition ctr?
I assume ther are ATM's everywhere?
it has been a while since I have visited this city....thanks for all the advice on this site.
Wayne King
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LA Cafe
I was in the LA Cafe recently and I just want to comment on one "chick" who was there. She looked typically Chinese/Pinoy, about 5'6", 70 kgs of all muscle. I was never so scared in all my life.
Gents: by all means call each other out and kick the shit out of each other. Maybe even arrange it for when I am in town so I can video it. But don't, if you value your life, call that babe out. She swaggers around the lower floor like Mike Tyson in a foul move. And, if Iron Mike has any sense, he would run for his life from her. Easily the scariest hooker I have seen in the last 30 years. This is no reflection on the other nice ladies who frequent that place. Just thought I shoud share the love:)
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Domino
"She" didn't happen to have an Adam's Apple, did "she"? LOL, just kidding Domino.
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Iron MIke
Harvey: This was a babe looking for a pick up. Any time she came near me, I stared down at my shoes and prayed to Holy Jesus she would pass me by. She also made a point of staring, Clint Eastwood style, into guys' eyes. Many of the other women there were ok as I am not too fussy. But the LA Cafe is not my style. It is like Bangkok's Beergarten in that the clientele consists mostly of freelancers and mongers. But it is maybe 10% of the size on its ground floor and there is not the same space to circulate and view the merchandise.
Outside, there are nice pussies to be had. I picked up a few homeless ladies and gave them shelter. The problem with outside, is apart from the TVs who wander around like packs of stray dogs, there are too many gangs of suckling mothers/beggars pimping. It can be funny to watch a monger being led off by a hooker and six or so other women/tramps and a gang of urchins tail gating them, all wanting a slice of the pimping fee.
At least with them, you know there is a good chance of getting out alive. Not so with Iron Michelle.
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Attn: Mikster and Juniour
[blue]Greetings,
Okay guys, this verbal volleyball game has been going on long enough, so I've created a new thread just for you guys to argue between yourselves. That way, your continued discourse doesn't have to effect everyone else.
The thread is named "Mikster vs Juniour". You are welcome to participate in all the threads, but please use this new thread for any reports or comments that are directed to each other.
To everybody else: Please let me know immediately of any reports by Mikster or Juniour in any other threads that are directed to each other, and I'll delete them without comment.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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Some Mongers are really sick
I know this sweet girl who has to make a living, so she is in LA cafe often to earn a small living.
Last night a guy took her and only paid her 500 pesos. Thats really sick you know, paying only 7 euro's
And she had several of these examples.
Guys, when you monger, pay at least a decent amount. Iits sick to make use of these girls like this.
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500 Pesos
If the girl accepts 500 pesos its her fault for not making the deal beforehand. Its been said before that most people dont know how much 500 pesos is to a filipino. Check out the yearly average wage of a filipino. You dont give many details, he probaby bought her drinks, maybe even breakfast in the morning, perhaps a tip.
Its also been noted that in AC the price is usually 1000 pesos for all night. The girl only gets 500 pesos after mamasan takes her cut. Your relegating thousands of mongers to sick status. Think about it. If its ok in AC, why is it so bad in LA Cafe if a girl accepts it? Dont tell me she was an innocent little girl who knows nothing of the trade please. Take a look around LA Cafe and see the number of women as compared to men, she's lucky to get picked up at all. Whats better, 500 or nothing?
I expect all the guys who know the girl only gets 500 pesos in AC to cough up the other 500 if you are bleeding so bad about it. Thats only for the guys who have a problem with the going rate, of which there are apparently not so many. Maybe they should raise the prices in AC to 2000 pesos so the girl can get 1000? Why not 3000? Guess what would happen in AC? The volume of business would decline and many girls would be out of work because guys would stop going and then everyone in the AC mongering business would suffer greatly.
As I have said before, pay what you want, just dont be a sucker. This post is not directed at anyone in particular, just as my first post in this whole thread was not, just my opinion.
Sorry about what happened to the "poor girl." Maybe someone should educate her if they know her so well then this wont happen again.
This is not a flame so dont take it as such. Who is this little girl? Maybe you can set her up with guys who will pay more, perhaps even you out of the goodness of your heart. It does sound like a bit of a strange post, timing and all since this 500 peso thing has been argued to death. Maybe you should post this on the Angeles City board since the girls there get 500 pesos for all night and see how it goes over on that board.
Its been brought up time and time again that the ladies only get 500 in AC after the house takes its share. Why its seems to be no big deal to anyone who cries about it in Manila is a mystery to me. What about the girls in the street who offer 200 pesos for massage? If a girl offers 500 should we turn it down and demand to pay 1500?
Whatever
Mikster
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[QUOTE=Hajinick]...paying only 7 euro's...[/QUOTE]There are many excellent reasons to want to try to respect LOCAL prices as well as other customs, several of which can also involve concern over the negative effect on local economies and individuals of acting as if one is in London or Toronto or Los Angeles.
The exchange rate in Euros or Dollars or Yen or Marks has absolutely no relevance to the matter whatsoever. None.
The amount in question is a LOT more than a twelve hour day's wages in the local economy, and it is definitely not at all unusual, as many people have reported and I have experienced many times, but whether it is appropriate to the particular situation or not really depends on the circumstances.
This is not really intended as a judgement on the appropriateness of the particular transactaction referenced in that particular post, or on the post itself, since I don't know the nature of any understanding reached or the details of the encounter described, and I really don't want to, given the distateful odor on this section of the forum for about a year now after the launching of the childish narcissistic flame wars which sent it straight into the toilet and have kept it in the sewer ever since.
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I agree with wastrel,It has to be put in perspective.After all not EVERYBODY earns in euros.A secretary,Bank Teller,Sales lady all earn less then 500 pesos a day.Pay according to your means what you want.If you earn in euros and want to share,Good for you and maybe you will earn good karma etc.If you pay the local rate,good for you also,You are being thrifty.The bottom line different strokes for different folks
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Local Wages
In relation to Wastrel's point, which was, as usual, accurate, I just read an article in the Philippine Star while flying into Manila tonight from Davao. According to what I read, the "average" wage in Manila, which is the highest priced city in the country, is about PhP300 ($5.50) a day. Getting 7 euros for a few hours work, plus staying in a reasonably nice hotel and being treated well is a far more attractive alternative for these women than the wages they could make as a salesgirl or a burger flipper at the local fast food joint. Not only that, but department stores now often require college degrees from applicants for sales positions. Most of these ladies don't have this credential.
In the same vein, I just had an old car here rebuilt from the ground up. The workmanship is superb, the car looks show room new and the job--which was done entirely by hand-- took three months. The work cost me approximately $2,000 and there was a team of people working on the car all the time. The same work in the states, had I been able to get it done, would have cost at least $20,000. Should I then feel guilty about exploiting the garage that did the work for me? Why? The garage was delighted to get my business and I was very pleased with the result.
As Wastrel indicated, do not confuse what would be outrageous exploitation in the west with penury here. It's an inappropriate comparison and, though it might salve a conscience or two, reflects a total lack of understanding of the local economy. By all means, pay what you like, but understand that for 7 euros, these girls can live at a reasonable level here for a couple of days.
:D
GE
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Where is EDSA?
Hi Buddies,
Please let me know location of EDSA complex to find girls. Is it a shopping centre or a pick up place? and also walking distance hotels please.
Thanks
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need suggestions please
Hello fellow pooners,
I will be in Manilla in a couple weeks. I'm thinking of staying at the Swagman hotel. I understand it is close to the action. I have some biz to do for a couple days then it is free time. I do not believe i would like Angles as i like the ocean. So would the best thing be to pick up a compatable girl in Manilla and take her to a place like Puerto Galera? I understand the pickings are slim in the beach areas?How much would a girl want to travel in style with a old fart like me? Would she drive you nuts after a couple days? I have never been to Phillipines but have travellled alot and many times to Thailand and the girls there are like children. In Thailand i have only met a very small handful that i could travel with. Also in Thailand there was a serious language barrier and being able to speak english i believe would be much much better. So i anticipate a different kind of sex holliday this time. What about Bouracay? Or any other beach spots that have some fun stuff to do. Screwing and drinking 24hours sounds like fun but in reality some swimming and diving and resturants and playing pool etc. is neccessary to fill in the gaps. I will probably hit all the spots in Manilla like edsa,L.A. cafe ,Air force one etc. to get a feel and find my pearl in the rough. Thank you to all who have posted as i have read most of it and have a pretty good idea what i'm in for. I think.
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Edsa
The EDSA complex is a building that houses about 8 bars under one roof, and it's on EDSA Blvd. diagonally across the street from the Heritage Hotel. All the bars feature dancers and all require payment of a PhP1,000 barfine to take a girl out. The rest is between you and the girl. Ladies drinks in most of the places are about PhP300. It's cheaper than Burgos, more expensive than the LA Cafe and every taxi driver in the city knows where it is.
GE
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Ortigas
The other times I have gone to the Philippines I have either stayed at the Shangri-La in Makati and Edsa or stayed in a family condo in Mandaluyong.
However, I will be going again next month and will be working in the Ortigas area for a couple of weeks and am looking for a nice hotel in that area. I am only concerned about being close to the office--no concern with bars because I can take a taxi if I want to.
Thanks.
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for Red Cork
Red Cork,
This is my recommendation. Go to Edsa, bar hop and talk to the girls. If you find someone compatible ask her if she'd be willing to travel. Easy enough. Better yet, don't ask her to go on the trip until the next morning so that you can better judge her character and techniques.
If you pay a bar fine, and the girl is absent the next day I think she gets fined another 1000. Naturally you have to make it all worth her while. You could do the same thing at LA Cafe. It would cost less, but there are fewer stunners and it would likely be more time consuming.
Here is a question for the others: In addition to paying all expenses how much would you consider reasonable as a tip for a 4 day trip? How about one week?
I don't know how much of an old fart you are, but I'm 40ish, bald and do quite well. They usually speak English well and it's much easier to have a conversation with a Filipina than a Thai girl. I think most of the girls would see it as a great treat to be invited to Boracay. It would likely be her first time on an airplane.
There are girls for hire at both Puerto G and Boracay, but you'll have more to choose from if you take a girl from Manila. There are a lot of younger guys vacationing on Boracay so the stunners would be less likely to go out with an "old fart". Puerto Galera has some clubs, but I don't think you'll find the quality of that in Manila.
When you bring a woman, it's all new for her so she's more likely to enjoy herself. She's also out of her element and away from her friends and therefore would be less likely to cause problems (if she's that type). Some guys will disagree with me, but I never talk money. I prefer the girlfriend fantasy and I usully get it.
If you go to Boracay, I would recommend SEAir over Asian Spirit. If things get unpleasant, just give her some transportation money to get home.
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Travel ladies.........
I agree, for the most part, with X man. Do not discuss money with the girl beforehand, though you will have to make a deal with the bar to pay her fines for however long you take her. You can probably bargain, at least slightly, on the total amount. The barfines at EDSA are PhP1,000, so start by offering them PhP500 for every day the lady is gone, and then go up from there.
I also agree that you're better off taking a girl from Manila, for whom this will be a big deal, than relying on your luck in Borocay or some of the other places. Just for the hell of it, I suggest that before you go to EDSA to make a choice, you spend an hour or two at the LA Cafe. It's hit or miss, and you probably will not find a stunner, but you may, and if you do it will be a lot less expensive for you to take her from there.
You mention that you would like to get in some swimming and diving. Two words of caution here. Most of the girls I've met do not know how to swim and many are terrified of the water. Make sure you get someone who at least is not frightened of it. Second, for some reason, many of the women in SE Asia get severe motion sickness and do not do well on boats, which means you would not be able to take her along on a dive boat. Either buy some Bonamine and convince her to take it prior to your boating experience, or find someone who does not get motion sickness.
:D
GE
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thanks
Thank you "good enough" and "x man" for your very informative opinions.
I'm 50ish but feel look and act 30 and love young puss. Also I like good looking puss and not a Cheap Charlie. I don't have intentions of over paying and ruining the status quo rates, thus my reason for asking.
With this info I realize I have to pay the bar fines for a few days, and I guess the rest is up to how much fun we have and how much I have to spend, so if I had a hidden price in my head of say, 1000 pesos a day for the girl would that be ok? One week, all expenses paid, food, nice hotels, air, bikini, booze , etc. and 7000 pesos? Shit, maybe I'll take 2 :)
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Another idea for Red Cork
If you are set on BYO babe to parts unknown in the Philippines, consider barfining two girls who are friends.
From my experience, unless you find one who is very fluent in English, a bit worldly and adventurous, the trip will stall at times when you are drinking, diving, eating or getting to know each other.
For me, at least, it has worked well to bring them in pairs or threes. They are usually open-minded about anything you may want to do and they will be able to babble with someone they are comfortable with in Tagalog when you just cannot take anymore simple conversation and need a break. Just leave them to sleep all day while you dive and meet up with them when you are done and ready to eat, drink and be merry. Being with her for 24/7 after about 48 hrs can be trying even with the best of sports.
GE is pretty on target telling you most do not swim and get seasickness easily. And, most have hardly ever traveled anywhere in their own country except to and from Manila and their province.
Another way to take this on and save money if you bring a harem is to forgo the airfare and book a nice cabin on one of the Super Ferries. It will take a day to get there, but it is relaxing, has decent foods, accomodations and a bar at night.
And, it will not cost you much more. Really. And a little variety in the nocturnal rounds may be fun.
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thanks golazo
Being with her for 24/7 after about 48 hrs can be trying even with the best of sports.
Thank you so much for your valued info. I tend to agree with your opinion of being with a uneducated lbfm 24/7 would rub you sore in 2 ways after a while.
I'm not sure how i'm going to handle it , but i'm sure it will be a great adventure. I do like the harem idea. A six pack and 2 rooms.
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Red Cork, sounds like you are going to have a GREAT time.
I just got back last week from Puerto Galera, the diving there was very good, the food so so. I was there with the wife, so it was all "G" rated.
I did however meet a fellow there, who had picked up an absolute doll at a bar his first night in PG. He paid her BF for 2 weeks, and she moved in with him at the Atlantis. She was gorgeous, and was very GFE. Wiped his brow when he was hot, did his laundry, carried his reading glasses in her purse when they went out to dinner.
We had dinner with them several nights, and she was very nice. Not much to say, but always smiling, and a good sense of humour. This man, who actually lives 30 minutes from me, I could tell, was really falling for her. I tried to preach the "FFF" method to him, telling him to not exchange emails, and to just walk away once it was time to go home, but I doubt that happened. He was staying on a couple of days longer than us, and was taking her to MNL, before flying home to his wife.
Anyway, you can find a gem in PG, and he slipped 1000 in her purse every morning, and also gave her manicure money etc. She was a non drinker / smoker, so her bar bills were very low.
My one night in MNL, prior to meeting up with my wife in PG, was spent at LA. I spend a lot of time in BKK, and am used to non aggressive girls, who just smile, and wait for you to approach them. I was very surprised by the BGs in LA. They are very aggressive, and love to talk badly about the other girls. " Do you like that girl? she is not nice, and some men have told me she gives very bad head" etc. I thought that was a bit strange. Anyway picked up a girl who was really fun in the bar, who turned out to be a complete POS. " I don't like this, I don't like that". Half way through the act, I told her I had lost interest, and kicked her out with 500, which I thought was probably 500 too much. But sometimes you have to pay them to leave.
have fun, and let us know how you get on.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]The EDSA complex is a building that houses about 8 bars under one roof, and it's on EDSA Blvd. diagonally across the street from the Heritage Hotel. All the bars feature dancers and all require payment of a PhP1,000 barfine to take a girl out. The rest is between you and the girl. Ladies drinks in most of the places are about PhP300. It's cheaper than Burgos, more expensive than the LA Cafe and every taxi driver in the city knows where it is.
GE[/QUOTE]
Are you sure?
I spent a night in MNL in February (on my way to Angeles), and a friend took me around different spots in Manila. Don't remember the price off hand now, but could have sworn it was more than that. Anyway, my friend had business to take care of in the morning, and I ended up picking up a lovely at LA Cafe.
And four fun days in Angeles.
EMK
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Airlines
Just wanted to stress X-mans point on taking sea air instead of Asian Pacific. Asian Pacific may appear cheap, but they overbook and then its first come first searved. There are no guaranteed seats on Asian Pacific. I knew this, arrived two hours before the flight, and still didn't get on the plane. I had purchased a ticked with a confirmed date, but it made no difference. Since preference is given to all of the people who didn't make it on the prior days flight, every flight gets pushed back indefinately. This way, they get full flights every time and can offer the cheapest prices. This is the second time in three flights that this has happend to me but being the cheap guy that I am, I still flew with them as I thought that by arriving early, I would get a seat. Since I live here, not the end of the world (but I will never use them again), but for international travelers with international connecting flights, you should be aware of this issue. Maybe the worst thing about them is the way they handle it. As soon as they book the last seat, every one disappears and a security guard comes out. There is no one to even to complain to. And if you ask the security guard why you cannot board the plane even though you have a "confirmed ticket", he says that you are late because you did not make it to the counter within 45 minutes of departure. Being in line two hours before departure doesn't count. I guess arriving 4 hours before the flight would work, but even I am not that cheap.
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thank you all
Once again I am overwhelmed by this input of opinion and experience. What a great site for us all eh? How can you tell I am Canadian eh?
Thanks 1 ball for sharing your hands on experience. that was the deciding factor for me. I believe it is hard to make concrete plans as the world goes round and round and we have to go with the flow and what feels right. So i think i will play a wee bit in Manilla , and then do what i intended and get to a nice beach area and i heard that puerto GAllera is really beautiful and has some night life as you mentioned. I think Angeles is from what i hear a bit tackyish. a small pattaya. For me a nice bungalow on a beach with my honey po close by with my glasses in her purse and a bar a stones throw away and i'm in heaven. Can't wait. and i will post if i survive. drinks are on me if your in the area.
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Golazo,
Please tell us more about the ferries. What are the different shipping lines and what class would you recommend?
Anchored off the coast of Boracay was a large vessel. I noticed some people had some sort of discount coupons in their hands, but I don't remember the name of the shipping line, nor the price. I think this is an overnight ferry, so you save the money you would pay for a hotel.
Shipping lines: [url]http://www.filipinotravel.com.ph/tickets/domestic_ferry.php[/url]
I know the Super Cat runs in the Visayans. Apparently they have recently stopped service to Tagbilaran and Dumaguete.
[url]http://www.supercat.com.ph/[/url]
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Red Cork, I thought I would answer your PM in the forum.
If you go to PG, you can take a ferry from Batangas, which will drop you off at the “ferry terminal” in PG. You can then walk around, and find accommodations which suit your style and budget. I stayed at the Atlantis, which is a dedicated dive resort, with nationalities from all over the world, families, couples, and single guys with their hired help. There are dozens of hotels and guesthouses; it should not take you long. But there are no idyllic thatched roof bungalows on the beach, if that is what you are looking for.
I certainly wouldn’t say PG itself is beautiful. There is hardly any beach, and no beach at all at high tide. I think to call it a town is a bit of a stretch. It is more a few alleyways, restaurants, discos, and bars. As I said, I didn’t do any of that scene, but just walking around after dinner, you could see the “ladies of the evening” getting ready. There are some very cute ones, and some, how shall I say……not so cute ones. A barometer of mine, has often been if the girl smokes, and the quality of her HP. That will tell me how hard core she is (JMHO, YMMV). There are quite a few who look like they have been around the block several times. The girl my fiend picked up was a newbie, and I believed her. She was too sweet an innocent and helpful to be seasoned.
I did go to Boracay 25 years ago, and it was heaven. Same thing with Ko Samui in LOS. Don’t want to spoil the memories though, and will never go back to either of the places. But if it is your first time, you’ll definitely love it. Maybe seasoned Boracay vets can chime in, and let us know if there still are wonderful little beach front cottages, with great girls and service.
Sorry if this is not as positive as you were hoping.
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Please excuse my ignorance
""and the quality of her HP"" ?
Her Hewlett Packard?
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Hp?
[QUOTE=Tutti Frutti]""and the quality of her HP"" ?
Her Hewlett Packard?[/QUOTE]
HP is hand phone, i.e. Cell Phone. Arguably the primary status symbol of the Filipinas.
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HP, YMMV, PG, etc
apologies for all the abbreviations. looking over my posts, I can see how things might get confusing.
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Hp
OK. A little OT.
So, I am in the States but keeping in communication with a girl in Manila. Her cell phone is terrible and often won't let her send or receive text messages at times and she often has to take it to the repair shop. When I go back, I want to buy her a phone as a present but I want to buy it here and bring it to her.
I know most Filipinas are comfortable with Nokia and that is what she has now. I was thinking of getting her a Nokia 6820 the one with a camera and opens up to a full keyboard but I also want her to have a nice phone representative of her "American BF"... :)
Anyone know an inexpensive "in" phone? I can get a 6820 for about $150.
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[quote=loveasian*****s]just wanted to stress x-mans point on taking sea air instead of asian pacific. asian pacific may appear cheap, but they overbook and then its first come first searved. there are no guaranteed seats on asian pacific. i knew this, arrived two hours before the flight, and still didn't get on the plane. i had purchased a ticked with a confirmed date, but it made no difference. since preference is given to all of the people who didn't make it on the prior days flight, every flight gets pushed back indefinately. this way, they get full flights every time and can offer the cheapest prices. this is the second time in three flights that this has happend to me but being the cheap guy that i am, i still flew with them as i thought that by arriving early, i would get a seat. since i live here, not the end of the world (but i will never use them again), but for international travelers with international connecting flights, you should be aware of this issue. maybe the worst thing about them is the way they handle it. as soon as they book the last seat, every one disappears and a security guard comes out. there is no one to even to complain to. and if you ask the security guard why you cannot board the plane even though you have a "confirmed ticket", he says that you are late because you did not make it to the counter within 45 minutes of departure. being in line two hours before departure doesn't count. i guess arriving 4 hours before the flight would work, but even i am not that cheap.[/quote]
there are reasons for this,seaair is german owned and german run,it is owned by erin dornier,the grandson of the founder of dornier aircraft and his greek partner nick gitsis.this is the reason ,it is not a filipino airline.secondly there is no airline called asian pacific.could you be talking about asian spirit or cebu pacific.go with seaair,their high speed dornier is currently the fastest to caticlan.they can make the trip in 35 minutes.next time you are being bumped off by asian spirit,try this technique call up their manila reservation office at 8511794,confirm your flight in manila then tell the counter staff,you are already confirmed by the office mr rodriguez,their vice president,if she wants to bump you off,you will call mr rodriguez and you will have the counter staff explain to him,why you are being bumped off.90% of the time,they will back done and bump somebody else off
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"HP is hand phone, i.e. Cell Phone. Arguably the primary status symbol of the Filipinas."
"apologies for all the abbreviations. looking over my posts, I can see how things might get confusing."
Thanks guys, I really didn't mean to cause any consternation, I just didn't understand. I guess I would have just called it her cell myself, but even that could be confusing.
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Boracay vs. Puerto Galera
1ball,
I just got back from Boracay. It is definitely not what it used to be. Although it is still nice, it's been overdeveloped, as any Filipino will tell you. They still have the white beaches but the hotels have grown in size and you will be hard-pressed to find a spot in the water where you aren't in danger of being run over by a boat as it comes in to shore. Not to mention the jet skis, parasailing, banana rides, etc. I enjoyed my stay but won't go back. Especially since the quality of the girls can be pretty low. Comparing it to Puerto Galera, which I visited in December, I found Puerto Galera to have far less in the way of beaches, but the amenities were better and the girls were better looking. You still pay a high price on Boracay since it is viewed as being a bit more exclusive (I watched a Filipina actress named Princess get married to a foreigner on the beach).
By the way, I know what you mean about preserving memories. I lived on Koh Pangan (off of Koh Samui) for a month in the early 90's before the island turned into a giant full moon rave party. Incredibly, it was so prestine and quiet I slept on the beach with just a fire and a beach blanket. I'll never go back knowing what it looks like today. The question is, where to next?
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Great Time in Malate
Thanks to my man JR (He is the King of Night Life in Manila ) I had some great action during my short stay in Manila. He took me to a couple of "Casas". The first one was sort of dead but the second had at least 30-35 girls . I pick two beauties paid 2500 each for all night. Was a great time. Later picked up a beauty from LA Cafe befoe leaving town. In the past JR. has gotten me whatever I wanted. Freelancers, Pros ect for great prices. I recommend anyone coming to Manila for the first time hook up with him and he will give you the low down on whats really happening in Manila and how to avoid the pitfalls of the hustlers and sham artist. Cell # is 09174145416
Jeff
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Asianbabecam/chathostess et al
Gentlemen,
A little info please, any of you check any of these sites out? ([url]www.asianbabecam.com[/url] [url]www.chathostess.com[/url]) I'm particularly interested in the ones around Manila. I know these things are fronts for PFP but I'd be interested to know if any boardmembers have actually hooked up with any of the LBFM's from one of them.
I know a few months back somebody in the Govt went on the warpath and busted a bunch of these places in manila as well as Cebu and of course fight fuck or go for your gun city here in Davao, but I'd appreciate any details from fellow mongerers, you can PM me if you like,
Many Thanks,
The Spamhog
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Nutso, well put. WHERE next.
First time I was on Samui, Ko Phangan was viewed as an out of the way island with nothing on it. " Why do you want to go there", the locals asked. "It'll never be developped" they said. HA !
Boracay 25 years ago, was paradise. Bungalows, clear water, quiet, empty. The way you have just described it........... not for me thank you.
The PI is dotted with "millions" of little islands. There has to be a few which are still pristine.
Anyone ?
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discos on roxas boulevarde
Hi guys,
My apologies upfront if this information has been previously relayed but I have RTFF and can't find anything info.
My question is: I usually stay in the Ermita area. On my way returning to the airport I notice alot of large clubs on the left hand side of Roxas Boulevarde, opposite the bay and the Yacht Club area. Can anyone tell me if these clubs are discos and if so, what are the best ones. Also, what is this area called?
Cheers guys,
Anzac
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[QUOTE=Vegas Boy]Thanks to my man JR (He is the King of Night Life in Manila ) I had some great action during my short stay in Manila. He took me to a couple of "Casas". The first one was sort of dead but the second had at least 30-35 girls . I pick two beauties paid 2500 each for all night. Was a great time. Later picked up a beauty from LA Cafe befoe leaving town. In the past JR. has gotten me whatever I wanted. Freelancers, Pros ect for great prices. I recommend anyone coming to Manila for the first time hook up with him and he will give you the low down on whats really happening in Manila and how to avoid the pitfalls of the hustlers and sham artist. Cell # is 09174145416
Jeff[/QUOTE]What's the damage for JR? I'd be interested in calling this guy to take me to the CASAs since those may not be as easy to find like the regular clubs.
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Airlines
Cebu Local,
Yes, I meant Asian Spirit, not Asian Pacific. And thanks for the info on Sea Air.
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Alabang area information
Soon I will be making my yearly trip to Manila, and will be staying in the Alabang area. Can anyone guide me as to where I can get some action and or sensual massage in this area or around it. Will welcome your information.
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Your question
[b] Finder99[/b]
Rather than post your question in three separate threads you might have tried to actually [b]RTFF[/b] and spend less than an hour scrolling through the forum to find the answers to the question you are seeking.
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Juniour, it was actually 5 different threads, same question !!!
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[QUOTE=Juniour][b] Finder99[/b]
Rather than post your question in three separate threads you might have tried to actually [b]RTFF[/b] and spend less than an hour scrolling through the forum to find the answers to the question you are seeking.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by RTFF. I have gone through the forum, but have not found anything. if anyone of you knows where there is some info on alabang, pls let me know.
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[b]Finder99[/b]
RTFF - means to actually try reading it.
If you are staying in Metro Manila, and as you have already said, this is not the first time you have been here, then the places you will find information about are the establishments available. I don’t know where Alabang is, but you will have to take a taxi, we all do, however, Manila is not such a big city and taxis are cheap; I suggest you read [b]Steve Naïve’s[/b] guide to punting in Manila – it contains all the information you will need.
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[QUOTE=Juniour][b]Finder99[/b]
RTFF - means to actually try reading it.
If you are staying in Metro Manila, and as you have already said, this is not the first time you have been here, then the places you will find information about are the establishments available. I don’t know where Alabang is, but you will have to take a taxi, we all do, however, Manila is not such a big city and taxis are cheap; I suggest you read [b]Steve Naïve’s[/b] guide to punting in Manila – it contains all the information you will need.[/QUOTE]J,
Can you please provide a link to Steve Naïve’s guide, I did a search and found nothing.
Thanks,
Black
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Finder99 - Alabang area
What you really need to do is RTFF, intelligently. Try a Google search for "Metro Manila, Alabang, map." You will quickly find out that Alabang is a very pricey locale in Muntinlupa City, one of the municipalities comprising Metro Manila. The map will give you some key street names & other reference points that you can then use to search the Forum. Alternatively, the map will orient you to how far you are likely going to be from "action and/or sensual massage." Whilst I've never been to this part of Metro Manila, I'm 99% certain it would be a first among major metro areas world-wide if you were to find what you're looking for in close proximity to major league residential wealth! The Forum is here for sharing information among members/participants, not to get someone to do your homework for you.
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Alabang
finder... not a whole lot going on in alabang. Theres some large malls( Festival and Town Center) and a posh housing subdivision Ayala Alabang. Theres Muntinlupa city also which is a trafifc nightmare. I lived in Alabang for four years and whilst it want too difficult to pick up a college girl, or even secretary working there, or a mall cruiser, theres very little in massage action.
Better go to Airforce one in paranaque...for good action.
[QUOTE=finder99]Soon I will be making my yearly trip to Manila, and will be staying in the Alabang area. Can anyone guide me as to where I can get some action and or sensual massage in this area or around it. Will welcome your information.[/QUOTE]
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No phone
This little cutey didn't even have a cell phone. Fresh as they come. Looked gorgeous up on the stage, but turned out to be less than 5ft face-to-face. Small, petite, but had plenty of chest .... A bit shy though so this is the sexiest pictue I have. It was taken by her friend.
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almost there
i'm almost ready to get over there. but i have a few more questions to you experienced philly pooners.
i have been many times to thailand and love it except for the girl language problem and the extreme heat. as many of you have suggested , i will grab a byob (bring you own booty) at either manilla or angles and head for a beach. what is the coolest climate area in phillipines? i would think that maybe up north , but i guess it has to do with wind and sea currents. i plan on staying a while so will travel about abit. have $ will travel !
where did you find that little cutey X-MAN?
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[QUOTE=Red Cork]i'm almost ready to get over there. but i have a few more questions to you experienced philly pooners.
i have been many times to thailand and love it except for the girl language problem and the extreme heat. as many of you have suggested , i will grab a byob (bring you own booty) at either manilla or angles and head for a beach. what is the coolest climate area in phillipines? i would think that maybe up north , but i guess it has to do with wind and sea currents. i plan on staying a while so will travel about abit. have $ will travel !
where did you find that little cutey X-MAN?[/QUOTE]
The coolest place in the Philippines is the mountain city of Baguio,5,000-6,000 feet above sea level and about 45 minutes drive from the La Union beaches.Temprature there is always in the 60 s and 70 s.Baguio is a 3 hour drive from Angeles City .
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Too hot?
Red Cork, you aren't going to feel hot on the beach. The water cools things down and if you get sweaty just jump in. I'll try to post some info about Boracay in the "other places" section.
Manila can be miserable. You might consider finding a hotel with a pool. Either that or take a shower three or four times a day.
Cutey was at EDSA bullets. Get to the EDSA bars early and you won't be disappointed.
This one is also from EDSA. She was so sweet that I barfined her and then took her out to the waterfront. We went on a boat cruise and strolled along the bay. She must have enjoyed herself because she skipped work the next day. She was ready to spend the whole week with me, but I was leaving. Damn...I always seem to meet the real keepers on the last day. (maybe that's a good thing). Unfortunately her email went thru the washing machine and she hasn't emailed. Another lost love.
Questions: I like Copacabana Hotel across from EDSA because they have a nice pool. Can anyone recommend a hotel in the Ermita area that has a pool. Does Cherry Blossom have a pool?
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Cruise
[QUOTE=X Man]
This one is also from EDSA. She was so sweet that I barfined her and then took her out to the waterfront. We went on a boat cruise and strolled along the bay. She must have enjoyed herself because she skipped work the next day. She was ready to spend the whole week with me, but I was leaving. Damn...I always seem to meet the real keepers on the last day. (maybe that's a good thing). Unfortunately her email went thru the washing machine and she hasn't emailed. Another lost love.
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Xman,
Can you tell me more about that cruise? Is it the one at Baywalk? A girl I know wants me to take her on some dinner cruise at Baywalk but I can't seem to find any information on it--even a name. Any help on the cost and schedule is appreciated.
Thanks.
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Bay cruise
Sugoi,
Sorry, I don't have any details, but what your lady is talking about and what I did is probably the same. It will definitely make your lady happy. As for me, having lived three years on a destroyer I don't get so excited about cruises.
It isn't expensive and it lasts an hour or two. I didn't eat, so can't say anything about the food. It might be expensive. I'd recommend eating before hand and then just order drinks on the boat. I hung out on the top deck where the band was. The next deck down was the dining area which looked rather upscale. You can also order food on the top deck.
They have a live band which I didn't care for.
You should be able to fine it on Roxas blvd. If it isn't at the waterfront, it is out in the bay and is brightly lit.
Have fun.
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Cruise
Do you remember if it runs a few times a night? I'm just trying to schedule it to go in 1 1/2 weeks.
Anyone else have any info on this?
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Sugoi,
The cruise runs aprx. every second hour from boardwalk, cross roxas bouleward from the aristocrat restaurant in malate then turn left on the boardwalk just a small walk there is a check-in area when the ship is out.
You can choose for a cruise w. set menu or just the cruise. not too expensive.
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[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Gentlemen,
A little info please, any of you check any of these sites out? ([url]www.asianbabecam.com[/url] [url]www.chathostess.com[/url]) I'm particularly interested in the ones around Manila. I know these things are fronts for PFP but I'd be interested to know if any boardmembers have actually hooked up with any of the LBFM's from one of them.
I know a few months back somebody in the Govt went on the warpath and busted a bunch of these places in manila as well as Cebu and of course fight fuck or go for your gun city here in Davao, but I'd appreciate any details from fellow mongerers, you can PM me if you like,
Many Thanks,
The Spamhog[/QUOTE]Yes I replyed to the right person this is you. I hope my info helps you.
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[QUOTE=finder99]What do you mean by RTFF. I have gone through the forum, but have not found anything. if anyone of you knows where there is some info on alabang, pls let me know.[/QUOTE]Finder99,
I was in Alabang for the first time with my girlfriend. There seemed (this is an observation rather that a hard fact) to be a lot of available non-pros on the area. Patientce, being out going and a good smile should go a long s long way.
Centeaur
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Ferries, Manila and other
X Man asked about taking the ferries earlier. I have not been replying to the forum lately. Just watching and reading. Not much to go on here if you have been around the Phils a bunch. It is mostly the same hash.
I only took the ferry one time from Cebu to Manila. There are several that make the various routes and I was on the Superferry. I had flown up a girl I knew from Manila and she accompanied me back. We booked a suite which is no bargain compared to flying, but I enjoyed the easy slow way of travel. She mostly slept except for the every three hours I went back to the room to indulge. We ate in a nice dining room. Had a decent in-room shower. There was a bar and a disco at night. The crew had their annual party which we enjoyed at the bar that night. Overall, I enjoyed it and bringing the sure thing along was an added benefit. The drawback is it takes time (24 hrs from Cebu to Manila), but it is still a great way to have a captive partner to enjoy. It would be even more fun if you knew a pair or a threesome with liberal sensibilities. Hehehehehe.
I have been in and out of the Phils 14 times since December. I have been up to Cebu alot. The Sunflower Disco is amazing to meet girls. Alot are bargirls taking a break for a night and so easy to meet and get to know.
Last visit to Manila was two weeks ago. I finally managed to get over to the new Entertainment Center across from Domestic Airport. It has about a dozen bars that are similar but nicer than EDSA. The girls are very much the same as EDSA, however. But, for me, that is a good thing. I was the only customer in the one I settled in and had reams of attention. They all were fun. I brought along a stack of single and handed them out indiscriminantly. The twenty girls/bartenders/waitresses loved this as this probably doubled or tripled their salary. Two left with me for a 1000 (less than $20) peso barfine and we went to some karaoke place they wanted. I ate and drank more while they sang their hearts out in a private room. I had fun and the girls loved my sole karaoke joke where I fart as loudly as possible into the microphone. Although I was tired, they insisted in coming back to my hotel. Tremendous sports. Fun night. It is a buyer's paradise at the new, slow Entertainment Complex. The girls are younger (most less than 20) and less sophisticated than at the karaoke bars on Burgous, Quezon City and Roxas. And, maybe not as striking., but if you like the tiny browns. This is perfect.
I also tried out Harry's (snore) and Amazonia on Mabini Street just down from LA Cafe. Amazonia is nice with decent girls and good atmosphere. Not so much hustle there, but as much or as little action as you care to take on. LA Cafe is really getting rougher in my estimation. Shabu is rampant and the girls are not nearly as nice or as nice looking as even a few months ago, but this is probably hit or miss on the nights you go there. Plus, I keep running into the same crowd there and they hound you for attention if you have known them before and were generous to them.
For classier and more sophisticated action, Havana's in Greenbelt is the place. Plenty of non-pros and pros. It can be hard to tell them apart before the first fifteen minutes of your conversation. Then it will be very apparent. Rockwell Mall on the other side of Burgos is a swank place to hang out for cafe life at night. It is also a great date place if you like someone or she is so hot you just want to be in public with her! You can also get out of Makati and head over to Eastwood for outdoor cafes and incredible eye-candy. Adriatico Street on Malate is also fun to hang out at for normal bars and gilrs and music. I can recommend Bedrock's and Unplugged, but they all are pretty much the same.
In Paranaque near the airport is Air Force One Spa and Starfleet. I prefer the elegance of AF1. Fish bowl set up and a great way to leave Manila on your flight home. Go massage and company. Takes about an hour and a half. For those of you familar, it is exactly the same but classier than Skyline in Grand Boulevard on Roxas.
A really nice hotel in Ermita with a pool is the Manila Diamond. It is not the cheapest, though. Someone had asked in an earlier post. In the end, as far as hotels, you can stay anywhere in Manila and get a taxi because it is so cheap and at night there is hardly any traffic. If you need to get around during the day, then traffic can be murder. Just make sure they turn on the meter. I have never found it necessary to use over-priced hotel taxis, but that is just me.
The last few visits I met many girls from internet sites. It is alot of work and the goods are not always what they seem. Fake pix sometimes and theendless tales of "Oh, I didnt tell you I had a baby/bf/husband?" There is everything from professionals to college girls to out and out storytellers. This is the Phils and every girl you meet will have a story and a line of bola. You have to judge for yourself and make decisions accordingly. For one guy's experience, if she asks for money up front on cam, you are foolish to part with it. She is hustling a dozen other guys and may have no intention of ever meeting. Regardless of what she tells you.
If you are new to Manila or the Philippines, my recommendation is to forget most of any online chatters you meet or dont let them know you are in town until you played around a bit. At a minimum, get two distinctly different SIM cards for your cellphone so you don't get hounded by recent friends texting you for more and more. Make it easy on yourself and go to EDSA or the Entertainment Complex. The price is ridiculously low to have a great night and if you are not used to this, it is mind-blowing at first. It is like a kid in a candy store where you can sit back and drink and gawk. It is truly a strip club where you get take out! But, you can literally meet and date any girl you strike up a conversation with in this country so there is no need to do much heavy lifting. Be safe and generous with your new friends. In the end, they have a tough life, indeed.
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Excellent info
Golazo, that is an excellend post. Thanks for the great info. Just a few comments...
As for your "domestic airport" visit, what kind of "singles" were you passing out? Something seems to be missing from that sentence.
Farting into a karaoke mic? Wow, just one more reason why I don't like karaoke.
Manila Diamond. Their web site comes to the top with a search. Beautiful pool in the picture, but not sure I want to pay US 200+ for that. Well, if that is your budget Golazo, I now understand why they laughed at your fart joke and I have a good idea about what kind of "singles" you were passing out. Hope I can tag along with one of YOUR parties!
I agree 100% with the warnings about meeting women online. If you have the time, this is a lot of fun. It's possible to get laid the first night, but it's also possible to meet a virgin.
In my case I mostly got normal girls, but they often brought along chaperones who turned out to be more interesting or more attractive than the original target.
Get several pictures if possible. But even if she turns out to be a dog, you might get to meet the whole family -- which could turn out to be a wonderful experience. It's through these online acquaintences that I've experienced...
...visiting a family which raises fighting cocks.
...wandering through the hills above Consolation (Cebu).
... sleeping in a wealthy German's house with his Filipina neice (he was in germany) The extended family lived out back in nipa huts..
...a date with a lady whose uncle worked for an airline affiliated with the airline which had lost my bag the day before....bag arrived soon after.
... a date with an STUNNING accountant from a restaurant chain who seemed to be in charge of the accounting section which included many women even more stunning than their boss. YES, she took be to her office and YES, I was the center of attention.
...splashing in the pool with a really tiny, but cute girl who works in Angeles. Bikini picture attached.
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mumbai monger
Hi All fellow mongers in Manila,
I am based in mumbai,india but travel a lot in the asia pacific region. God bless jackson and all the others who thought of this site. Am coming to manila on 4th july and am there till 7th. Will be staying at the Hyatt Casino Hotel at Malate in manila.
Any fellow mongers who want to meet up and party together are most welcome for a round of drinks on me. Do let me know in this forum.
See you soon & happy mongering.
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A trip to the Philippine side
Had a good Filipino friend of mine in town today so I decided it was a good opportunity to try some Filipino places that I had been curious about. Airport road is one way road that connects the airport to Roxas Blvd. Right where it connects to Roxas are a bunch of Filipino KTV joints and bars. It is about a 10 minute walk from Roxas along the road to where the bars end. Lots of girls standing outside many of them, but many with little to indicate what goes on inside. Outside one was about 8 girls. They were cute, but not quite up to what you find in EDSA comlex, for example. Went inside and was immediately escorted upstairs. It was weird up there. About ten tiny cubicles with curtains. Inside each cubicle was two chairs and a small shelf for the drinks. It was 500 Pesos ($10) to take a girl into the cubicle. I can only imagine what goes on in there, but it certainly was not my style. Interesting, but time to leave I thought.
Went into another place that had no girls outside, but looked lively. As you walk in, there are about 20 girls sitting down. They were actually quite cute. They were the type that Filipinos tend to like – tall with fair skin. I of course like the short little brown fucking machines. They were all very well dressed in gowns with perfect hair and makeup. You pick one and take her to your table. It was also 500 Pesos to take a girl to your table. I didn’t see anyone I was interested in (they were cute, just not my type), although I certainly did see a couple I liked that had already been chosen. There was a live band and it was a comfortable place. And it was REALLY cheap. Beers were only 34 pesos, about 75 cents. I don’t know what the bar fine is (or even if the girls are available for take out), but I may come back to the place. I don’t remember the name, but it was the lively bar opposite the big miss world bar ( I may check that bar out as well next time).
I then decided to check out East Asia on Roxas. I have wanted to go there ever since I first read about it a couple of years, but never had the opportunity, or felt curious enough to cough up with the entrance fee. And since I knew the bar fines were steep and I wouldn’t take a girl anyway, I never saw the point. But today I was curious. I wanted to check out the most expensive club this side of Quezon City (well I understand Pharoah KTV is even more, but that place is new and East Asia has a history). As we walked in, we were seated by the stage. I was then explained the charges. 800 P entrance, 1000 P to get a girl to your table, 8000 P bar fine plus two drinks minimum for the girl (500 P each) if you want to take the girl out. And that is for short time. Extra for the girl is not required. Long time requires a tip for the girl, and it is up to her if she wants to do long time. So basically, if want to go there and take a girl out, it will run about $200 US. Just walking in there is $20 minimum for the cover and one drink ( they conveniently open a beer as soon as you sit down). So why would anyone pay those ridiculous prices? Well, I don’t really know, but I must say that there was some very HOT girls there indeed. If you like the fair skinned model type, you are in heaven. I could afford the place for an occasional special fuck, but I see no need when I can get about the same quality for much less. I am glad I saw the place, but I won’t be back.
Ended off the night at LA café. But because I had to be home by 2am and I had spent most of the night doing research, there was no time for a girl. Bummer
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[QUOTE=Marconista]Day 3
After my visit to the new Entainment Center, went back to EDSA Entairment Complex, close to Heritage Hotel.
Again – having a good time… had some beers, and some tempuras (fried chrimps). Played a little reluctant with the Floor Manager Marie, like in not sure it to BF any ladies that night. She worked hard to find a suitable one, and suggested Meldi(e) to me after a while. Meldie was cute, easy to talk with – and I finally ended up with her. Left Casino about 2230 with her, after paying a BF of PhP 1000. Agreed PhP 2000 for her service, but asking first what was her do’s and don’t’s. She said only limitations was anal. Fine with me! Back in the hotel at 2300 – had shower, then fun. Hard time in cumming because of previous encounters, but she put her heart and soul in to it. She was talkative, in a nice way, so I enjoyed her company (and she mine. The latter I learned when talking to the Floor Manager (mama-san) on Tuesday evening when I visited again). She left about 0630 Tuesday morning after finalized (cumming) the deal. 2 pictures posted in the photo section. Very friendly and extremly good service. I was very pleased with meeting Meldi(e).
Day 4
Visited Casino again about 2200hrs with 2 friends.
Planned to stay only 2 hours, since I already know who to BF this time.
However – she was already reserved by some arab guy. Had a few beers, had fun with the girls and the managers (since they know me well for a long time), but left about 0100 – alone.
Agreed with Manager that she should reserve the girl for me for Saturday evening. Lets see what happens! I shall report back later![/QUOTE]Hi Marconista,
I sent you a PM re: a mutual friend. Did you know a bartender named Perla at Casino? She left several years ago, but she was the best at telling you the truth about the place and the girls. Do you know Mary Ann at Casino? She can be very nice if she likes you.
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Seeking Info
Hi,
I am interested in finding out how some Filipinas I knew several years ago are doing. I'm not sure anyone can help with info concerning them, but what the heck.
Anyone know a tall, very attractive Filipina with (d cup implants) called Cyglie (Cylie? Cilie?) that used to be the star girl at Casino?
Anyone know an attractive, very busty (natural d cup) Filipina called Michelle that used to hang out a LA Cafe? She was from Mindinao and had a noticeable scar on her neck from an accident when she was little. Being from Mindinao she was slightly darker than many Manilenos.
Anyone know a cute, short spinner named Jessa (like Jessa Zaragosa) who used to work at Chaos?
Lastly, anyone know either Joyce or Jean? They both used to work at Bottoms on Burgos. Joyce had several children and did not look well when I last saw her (one reason I only talked with her).
Thanks for any help.
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Story behind Hyatt in Malate
[QUOTE=Farang Steve]Here are some pics of the Hyatt in Malate. This hotel is brand new and is extremely girlfriendly. When I talked to the concierge, he said that it would never be a problem to bring a guest back to my room as long as i bring only 1 guest. A few times, i saw 2 ladies entering inside the lift and myself i did bring two ladies at once without any problem.
I must admit that it is not discrete to bring girls inside as the security is strict and there always seems to be a lot of staff at the reception.
Nice pool, very close to the La Cafe, the bars of Adriatico Avenue and to the Robinson's Mall, huge shower, some rooms have a very nice seaview, excellent breakfast.[/QUOTE]I agree that this is a very nice hotel, especially for Ermita/Malate. The only other hotels that are comparable are the Pan Pacific and Manila Diamond (older and mostly caters to Japanese). Not by accident, the Hyatt has a very large casino. Originally, the Hyatt was supposed to have been a Sheraton, but they pulled out and the building was empty for a several years. The hotel was only opened because Stanley Ho (the Macau casino magnate) wanted to open a casino in Manila. Apparently, to open the casino at the Hyatt, he had to also open a hotel (he got a franchise from Hyatt). I wonder how long the older Hyatt (Hyatt Regency - only ok - I think Ali stayed there when he had his "Thrilla in Manila" in 1975) will be able to retain any customers, especially when they want $85 or so a night.
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[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Gentlemen,
A little info please, any of you check any of these sites out? ([url]www.asianbabecam.com[/url] [url]www.chathostess.com[/url]) I'm particularly interested in the ones around Manila. I know these things are fronts for PFP but I'd be interested to know if any boardmembers have actually hooked up with any of the LBFM's from one of them.
I know a few months back somebody in the Govt went on the warpath and busted a bunch of these places in manila as well as Cebu and of course fight fuck or go for your gun city here in Davao, but I'd appreciate any details from fellow mongerers, you can PM me if you like,
Many Thanks,
The Spamhog[/QUOTE]
I'd like to know as well. I have made a nice contact with a girl there (asianbabecams). She eventually gave me e-mail and phone number. We get along great on the phone and chat. She swears she is not a bar girl. She has invited me to stay at her place.
I am pretty nieve if I do this huh?
Are they all bar girls?
Shes got me going pretty good right now.
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[QUOTE=Hobby Knob]I'd like to know as well. I have made a nice contact with a girl there (asianbabecams). She eventually gave me e-mail and phone number. We get along great on the phone and chat. She swears she is not a bar girl. She has invited me to stay at her place.
I am pretty nieve if I do this huh?
Are they all bar girls?
Shes got me going pretty good right now.[/QUOTE]
No.They are all not bargirls,But the MAJORITY are.I personally know some who are students,part timers etc.But I would not stay at her place first.You might be walking into an ambush.
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Luneta Park?
I enjoy picking up freelancers and non-working-girls, and have had success at Glorietta, Greenbelt (Havana), Makati Starbucks, Megamall, and Rockwell Center. A friend just suggested I try Luneta Park.
Thoughts: worth trying? too risky?
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[QUOTE=Trav Man]I enjoy picking up freelancers and non-working-girls, and have had success at Glorietta, Greenbelt (Havana), Makati Starbucks, Megamall, and Rockwell Center. A friend just suggested I try Luneta Park.
Thoughts: worth trying? too risky?[/QUOTE]
WAY TOO RISKY EVEN FOR LOCALS,CAN I SELL AN INSURANCE POLICY??ON SECOND THOUGHT MAYBE NOT SINCE IT DOESNT COVER SUICIDE,just joking Seriously this is the equivalent of jogging in Central Park at 10pm at night unless you plan to try pickups in the afternoon,but leave the park by nightfall
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LA cafe this weekend
Hi there evryone, wondering ifr anyone is up for some SM's at LA cafe this weekend? PM me or post a reply here and we'll get the party going...
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World Search For Genetically Mature Hairless Pussy
There must be a genetic group somewhere in this world that has a natural hairless pussy? I had a couple with San Blas indian girls, east coast islands of panama. tht was many years ago. Also some of the lbfm's in thailand. the Chaing Mai girls are whiter and more chinese and have very hairy snatch. Some of the darker Thai girls had totally clean smooth hairless pussies except for a wee bit of fuzz on top. Does anyone know of any other hairless secrets? I do not want to get this thread into a debate of pre-puberty or shaved pussies. Searching for mature genetically pure hairless pussy?
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[QUOTE=Red Cork]There must be a genetic group somewhere in this world that has a natural hairless pussy? I had a couple with San Blas indian girls, east coast islands of panama. tht was many years ago. Also some of the lbfm's in thailand. the Chaing Mai girls are whiter and more chinese and have very hairy snatch. Some of the darker Thai girls had totally clean smooth hairless pussies except for a wee bit of fuzz on top. Does anyone know of any other hairless secrets? I do not want to get this thread into a debate of pre-puberty or shaved pussies. Searching for mature genetically pure hairless pussy?[/QUOTE]I've come across quite a few here in the Philippines but like in any other place, it's quite rare. One trait to look for is their eyebrows and upper lip. Those who pluck their eyebrows will still have some fuzz in their upper lip ergo fuzzy down there too. Those who have very thin eyebrows and smooth upper lip will more than always have very thin pubic hair. Just an observation though. Bald pussies is one of my fetish as well.
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brillo pads
thanks for your observation. i'm not a fan of big bush or the rough brillo pad pussies that rub your dick raw. the ones with the nice silky fuzz on top and nothing on the sides or bottom are my fav.
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Just got back
Just spent 10 great days in Manila. Tried some ideals you have gave me and tried the LA cafe it was full of girls but most where stuck up, and some looked to young to even be there, had a couple of girls approach me was not my type so I ask one of the other girls to introduce me to a few girls then it was on they all wanted me. I made a choice and took a nice cute one back to my room, (her comments to me where she wanted to eat my dick ) oh my just what I wanted to hear, so it was on after that. The next day I tried a casa went to 3 of them before I found a girl I liked but was well worth the seach and had fun looking so once again I had a great time and will be back in October.
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So today I read an article on all of the busts at the massage parlors in LA and San Francisco (they arrested almost 200 girls in a one day sweep of LA and Frisco massage parlors). I think to myself "glad I'm in Manila. At least I don't have to worry about getting busted at a MP" I then decide that today I would like a nice massage. Didn't have to have sex as I had some this morning. There was this one MP that I had been wanting to check out - it had great reviews [url]http://www.freewebs.com/knowfusion/ratespromosgimmiks.htm[/url] . Basically, it is a really good massage for an hour given by an attractive girl, with a HJ at the end if you want one. They were known for great service and kinky massages, so I decided to try them out.
Got there and they were setup like a typical LA parlor, but more relaxed and a nice atmosphere. The massage was $11. Got to chose between two girls, and of course I chose the thin one. She was attractive and very nice. Got to the room and put my head in the hole in the bed so I couldn't see what was going on. She said she would be right back.
She comes in and then tells me "I'm a police woman". Oh, fuck. Could this really be happening. I look up and there she is in uniform wearing a badge. Now, I hadn't said anything, but this is the Philippines, so anything could happen. I'm looking at her and she is just smiling and still looking at me. I look down and think "hmm, that is kind of short black dress for a police woman." Not quite sure what to think, she then says "I have a toy gun. would you like to see it?"
So, she got me. I was probably the only customer of that place that actually was busted by police woman in a MP (about 2 years ago when I lived in LA, I was caught in a sting at a Massage parlor), but I was calm even though for about 10 seconds I thought I actually was busted.
I then got one of the best massages I ever had, and decided to get the hj at the end. I love Manila.
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Some Massage Parlours pay serious protection money to LE at the General level or have serious political protection.Fusion is one of those,Airforce 1 and Skyline are some of those also.You should be safe in these places.My favorite anecdote was when a Police raiding party raided Skyline and were shocked to discover 2 police generals inside as patrons.The raiding team was off course summarily disarmed,suspended from duty on the spot.Likewise Police raiding Air Force One caught 2 congressmen inside who had the entire raiding team transferred out of metro manila for 3 months of hardship duty.Stick to politically connected places like this.Word gets out quickly what are untouchable,
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thanks to forum
Thanks to this forum , i have my itenierary just about sorted out.
I will be in Manilla in a couple weeks and am still not sure of what hotel to stay at. i'mgoing to stay at the orchid in Angeles and also have Galeria sorted. i am going to stay the first 4 days in Manilla area. Was thinking of the Swagman. I would like a place close to the action and girl freindly with pool. 50/75 dollars. any suggestions?
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Red Cork
Try City Garden in Makati. Last August it was 2300 pesos. Has a pool on the rooftop. It's right by Burgos and all the go go bars there, just down the street from Glorietta Mall.
Last time I stayed at Swagman it was a roach-infested dive. I doubt they've put in a pool since then.
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Red cork
Definitely try City Garden Hotel (Makati) tel# 8991111. I've been staying there for 4 years when ever I'm town. Lots of inexpensive restaurants around it.
Have a great time!
IB
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[QUOTE=Ilongo_boy]Definitely try City Garden Hotel (Makati) tel# 8991111. I've been staying there for 4 years when ever I'm town. Lots of inexpensive restaurants around it.
Have a great time!
IB[/QUOTE]
Hi IB,See you in Macau later this year.I agree City Garden is nice,It is about 100 meters from My Manila place.Better then Swagman and 50 meters from Burgos.
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you don't get, if you don't ask
Thanks again everyone. Just like "so you want to be a millionaire", i don't know so ask the audience :) it is unanimous and i will definetly be staying there.
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Manila is back!!
July 6, 2005
Well, some very good news to report. July 6, 2005, was the grand opening of Butterfly bar on Del Pilar St, next door to Amazonia bar. This is the first go-go bar to open in Manila in about 30 years, so it was a big event indeed! Now, many of you are probably saying "there are many go-go bars in Manila, such as EDSA complex and P. Burgos". However, they are in Passay or Makati, part of an area considered Metro Manila. Manila proper has not had a gogo bar since Mayor Lim closed them all down about 30 years ago. This was before my time, but supposedly back then Manila was the capital of the gogo bar scene and was so large that it was even bigger than Patpong or Angeles. Then, in one massive operation, Mayor Lim closed them all down. Some moved to Passay, but Manila was no more. While the opening of one bar does not mean Manila is back, it is a start. And Butterfly is not a bad start. About 30 girls on the opening night. Lots of fun and everyone having a good time. The only problem is the bar fine was 1,900 pesos. Considering that's the same as the bar fine in Flamingo on Burgos (Flamingo certainly has more beautiful women then Butterfly, albeit, they have a little attitute), and the EDSA barfine is only 1,000, I think that that Butterfly is overpriced. However, since there are many hotels in the area and they are currently the only game in town, they should have no problem getting it.
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Miss Universal
I've been back in Manila for about 3 1/2 weeks now and will be leaving next week. I have to say that this has been quite an experience. If I have time, I will try to elaborate later.
I have been to Miss Universal in Pasay about a dozen times since I have been here. I have a "regular" there and she has met me a few other times outside of work also. Probalby 75% of the time I have taken one to three people and have paid for them every time.
Miss Universal is not cheap but they have over 300 girls and many of them are "game" or will go out. However, I believe the barfine is about 7000--I have never barfined a girl so I am not sure. My bill has ranged anywhere from 2500 when I went for a few hours by myself to about 8000 when I went with a couple of other people.
Except for one night when I was on my way to the airport to pick someone up and knew I only had 1 or 2 hours, I have always taken a VIP room which has a minimum of 2500-3500 consumable depending on the size of the room.
If anyone goes, ask for Vangie (mamasan) and ask her who is "game" if that is what you are looking for. Tell her the guy from Los Angeles sent you and she will take care of you. Most of the girls will go into a VIP room and you can have your way with them and they won't ask for money. If they aren't game, you can change girls.
I'll post more details if anyone is interested...
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Sugoi
I guess we are all interested :)
Me, since I dont really understand what you are saying fully:
[QUOTE=Sugoi]
...Probably 75% of the time I have taken one to three people and have paid for them every time.
...I believe the barfine is about 7000--I have never barfined a girl so I am not sure. My bill has ranged anywhere from 2500 when I went for a few hours by myself to about 8000 when I went with a couple of other people.
Except for one night when I was on my way to the airport to pick someone up and knew I only had 1 or 2 hours, I have always taken a VIP room which has a minimum of 2500-3500 consumable depending on the size of the room.
...Most of the girls will go into a VIP room and you can have your way with them and they won't ask for money. If they aren't game, you can change girls.
I'll post more details if anyone is interested...[/QUOTE]
So - you never barfined, but did you go all the way in the VIP-room? How much did you have to pay the ladies in addition to the consumables you paid the club?
We would also be happy to hear about the ladies in Universal, as have heard that they are top notch.
Keep it cummin'
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Miss Universal
I have a "regular" girl there that I see every time so yes, I have gone all the way a few times in the room. She has also given me several bbbj cim but always gags and spits. But she keeps doing it even though the last 2 times she actually threw up because she tried to pull away and I think it got her in the nose... haha. She hates the smell...
I have taken several friends there and many times my girl has picked partners and asked the girls if they were game. I have taken my nephew there a few times who is a college student with no money and he has gotten a bbbj 3 times and gone all the way once. The largest tip he gave was 500 when I gave it to him to give the girls. Usually he doesn't give them anything because he doesn't have any money. They know ahead of time that he has no money...
Some girls do ask for money. I think you can get a bbbj for about 1500 from many of the girls and about 3000-4000 to go all the way. But, if you are charming enough, you shouldn't have to pay anything.
The other night when the protests were going on (Friday), people did not want me taking a taxi by myself so I asked my girl to take a taxi to my hotel and pick me up. We were early going to MU so we stopped at another club called Vocano (no "L" in the name) which is a few blocks from MU because some of her friends worked there. There were some really cute girls there who were fully nude on a small stage only raised about a foot off the ground. All the chairs were plastic but they did have VIP rooms. I didn't get the prices but the price for the two of us to enter and 2 Ice Teas (I was car-sick from the ride over) was 450.
I will be the first to admit that I have not been to too many places because I am happy at MU so I don't have much to compare it to. As I stated before, there are over 300 girls at MU so there are some really attractive ones and some that are not so attractive. I always get the same girl but I have helped friends find partners and there has never been a problem finding a stunner for them.
Also, I would say that at least 25-50% of the girls are under 18--although they will all tell you they are 18. If that's your thing, you can find them there. My nephew is only 17 or 18 so he likes that. The first time I took him his partner was only 16. One time one was 17 and he got a bbbj, another was 17 who went all the way and one was 20 who gave him a bbbj. I'm not sure about the others.
I have much more information about MU so let me know if you have specific questions...
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miss universal? nice post, but where is this place? wow! 300 girls!
i'm going to be staying at city garden hotel or garden city? is this place close or how long in taxi?
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Miss Universal
It is up the street on FB Harrison from the Edsa complex I believe. I have seen a building that says Edsa with a bunch of bars and clubs so I am assuming that is the Edsa Complex.
Most taxi drivers will know it. Tell them FB Harrison and Libertad. I always stay in Makati or Ortigas so I am not sure where that hotel is.
All of the 300 girls dance on stage and most of them will be either topless or fully nude. A few do a show where they actually let guys eat them on stage and put cigarettes, ice cubes and beer bottles in certain places. The other day when I was there the 17 year old girl I mentioned was on stage and about 5 different people ate her out, she then took 2 cigarettes, inserted them, danced around the stage with them there and then gave them back to 2 guys. There is another girl who drips candle wax all over herself on stage... All can be taken to a table or room. But, if you want a particular girl, you have to go before 8 or they will most likely be taken. There is a huge selection before 8:30pm.
However, the downside is that most of the "top" girls don't get there until after 9pm so you may have to wait--it all depends on when the girls show up.
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safety concerns
What is with all this political shit in Phillipines? Is there going to be another coup? A over- throw of the president? And by all reports it seems to be getting real stupid. Is it safe for whitey farang?
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[QUOTE=Red Cork]What is with all this political shit in Phillipines? Is there going to be another coup? A over- throw of the president? And by all reports it seems to be getting real stupid. Is it safe for whitey farang?[/QUOTE]If there is, it's not likely to matter, certainly not as any kind of safety issue. They do this now and then, and it's just not very important. It has little or no effect on the daily life of the country.
I was in Manila the last time they did this and it provided some colorful entertainment to watch and snarled traffic a little more than usual for a while, but was otherwise of no consequence whatsoever for anyone but those who were directly involved. The formal Philippine government has long been completely ineffectual and largely irrelevant, even to itself, and it is arguable as to whether there even is or ever has been a national government or even a nation/state at all. The formal political science definition of a nation/state is a territory of clearly defined borders with a common culture and language in which a government maintains a monopoly on the use of force to enforce it's laws to the exclusion of others, and not one single element of this has ever been true of the Republic of the Philippines. Even if you take the point of view that the Philippines is almost sort of a nation in some vague unconventional way, it is clearly not governed by formal public institutions such as those that exist in Malacanang Palace (the Philippine White House). Unless you are a member of one of the Philippine political cliques or you are in the business of renting one of them to protect your interests there is no reason to care, since the government doesn't govern anything and the process of occasionally passing it back and forth between cousins involves nothing more than a lot of symbolic theatrical performance art. Treat it like you would one of those big movie musicals Hollywood produced in the 1930s, with lots of bad acting and colorful props and plenty of paid extras milling about in the background in cheap garish costumes to provide atmosphere.
Philipinos just go on doing what they do, and the small intermarried groups of people who are actually involved in these things don't have any reason to care about you or me, and this stuff never has any effect on the price of a BJ in Balibago, except to make the exchange rate even more favorable for those with hard (western) currency.
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[QUOTE=Red Cork]What is with all this political shit in Phillipines? Is there going to be another coup?NO THE MILITARY HAS DECLARED THEIR LOYALTY TO THE PRESIDENT A over- throw of the president?AN ATTEMPT BY SOME POLITICIANS AND BUSINESSMEN And by all reports it seems to be getting real stupid. Is it safe for whitey farang?YES COME ON IN,NO WHITE FARANG HAS EVER DIED IN A COUP ATTEMPT IN RECENT PHILIPPINE HISTORY FOR AT LEAST FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS[/QUOTE]MEDIA OVERRATES THINGS
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[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Hi IB,See you in Macau later this year.I agree City Garden is nice,It is about 100 meters from My Manila place.Better then Swagman and 50 meters from Burgos.[/QUOTE]
Looking forward to Macau CL! I have a frined that may come to Manila and wants to visit Bangkok for a few nights. What's the airfare and hotel prices like around October?
IB
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drinks
Thanks guys. I will buy you all a few rounds of drinks when i get there. I'll post when i get confirmed. Until then , hard cocks and tight pussy.
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[QUOTE=Ilongo_boy]Looking forward to Macau CL! I have a frined that may come to Manila and wants to visit Bangkok for a few nights. What's the airfare and hotel prices like around October?
IB[/QUOTE]EX Manila Packages are starting at around 300$ See you then
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Illongo Boy
I just got back from Macau, shame I went there with my Filipina wife. check out my post under the Davao section. Best action I saw was the Hotel Lisboa, looked like a bunch of runway models, I imagine it is expensive through.
Spamhog
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[QUOTE=Spam Hog]I just got back from Macau, shame I went there with my Filipina wife. check out my post under the Davao section. Best action I saw was the Hotel Lisboa, looked like a bunch of runway models, I imagine it is expensive through.
Spamhog[/QUOTE]Glad you agree.Now you know why I have been raving about the place IB Cheers
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manila visit
Hi all,
Stayed at the Hyatt Casino Malate for 2 nights. As talked about in this forum, went to EDSA to try out Firehouse at about 11pm on the first night. Sat for barely 4 mins when this gorgeous full woman started giving me the smiles etc. A mamasan came over and completed teh deal. Had to pay P1000 as bar fine to take Rose to the hotel in the street just behind. P300 for teh room and P2500 for Rose for 2 hours. Started as usual with the shower. Then she went down on me. This babe had the most amazing lookin nipples, they were pink and brown and hard as bullets. lovely 34C breasts with 2 cute moles on the right breast.
Tit fucked her to her amusement and then missionary style for about 15 mins. She was a moaner allright. Blew my first load soon after which we sat to watch lousy TV in the room. After a half hour she started blowing me again - man I get an erection just thinkin about it even now. This time it was doggy style. Left after about 1.5 hours well satisfied.
Next night my local distribution partners took me to makati to a club called tribhu. There we were lead to an exclisive karaoke room K1 on the first floor. 17 girls were called in for selection. there were 3 of us so 3 lovely women were chosen. i chose a girl called jaimee who had a very cute dimple. April & Jasmine were the other 2. I think all philipinos have lovely voices so we spent the better part of an hour singin there. Then jaimee and I retired to k2 for a private session. She started out by giving me a very wet BJ followed by missionary. Lotsa frenchin all the way. Popped a load soon and left again very satisfied.
Philippino women are the finest lookin I have seen yet in the south east asia region.
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Lisboa girls
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]I just got back from Macau, shame I went there with my Filipina wife. check out my post under the Davao section. Best action I saw was the Hotel Lisboa, looked like a bunch of runway models, I imagine it is expensive through.
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
Those Lisboa Girls are not that expensive.
Depending on you skills you can pay as little as 400 patacas, more or less 2100 pesos.
Beijing Lover
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[QUOTE=Beijing Lover]Those Lisboa Girls are not that expensive.
Depending on you skills you can pay as little as 400 patacas, more or less 2100 pesos.
Beijing Lover[/QUOTE]
Good for you,The cheapest I have been able to haggle is 500 Patacas,BTW are you mandarin or cantonese speaking.I was only able to get that rate with my chinese speaking friend,By myself lowest I have gotten is 600 patacas
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I will be passing through there so i will check out the lisboa hotel. can a sweet talking whitey get the same deal? after reading reviews both here and there it seems prices are all over the map. a runway model for the same price as a bg in manilla? is 50 dollars us the normal rate now in manilla? all inclusive? i guess Angeles City is much cheaper?
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[QUOTE=Red Cork]I will be passing through there so i will check out the lisboa hotel. can a sweet talking whitey get the same deal? after reading reviews both here and there it seems prices are all over the map. a runway model for the same price as a bg in manilla? is 50 dollars us the normal rate now in manilla? all inclusive? i guess Angeles City is much cheaper?[/QUOTE]Generally not during early evening,But later in the evening and early morning yes,But the best ones will have been taken already so budget between 50-80 US dollars depending on your bargaining skills.
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Hey hey,
Finally someone's talking about one of my fave places, Tribu.
Any dudes here got good FR on this place. Please share.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Member #2634]Hi all,
Stayed at the Hyatt Casino Malate for 2 nights. As talked about in this forum, went to EDSA to try out Firehouse at about 11pm on the first night. Sat for barely 4 mins when this gorgeous full woman started giving me the smiles etc. A mamasan came over and completed teh deal. Had to pay P1000 as bar fine to take Rose to the hotel in the street just behind. P300 for teh room and P2500 for Rose for 2 hours. Started as usual with the shower. Then she went down on me. This babe had the most amazing lookin nipples, they were pink and brown and hard as bullets. lovely 34C breasts with 2 cute moles on the right breast.
Tit fucked her to her amusement and then missionary style for about 15 mins. She was a moaner allright. Blew my first load soon after which we sat to watch lousy TV in the room. After a half hour she started blowing me again - man I get an erection just thinkin about it even now. This time it was doggy style. Left after about 1.5 hours well satisfied.
Next night my local distribution partners took me to makati to a club called tribhu. There we were lead to an exclisive karaoke room K1 on the first floor. 17 girls were called in for selection. there were 3 of us so 3 lovely women were chosen. i chose a girl called jaimee who had a very cute dimple. April & Jasmine were the other 2. I think all philipinos have lovely voices so we spent the better part of an hour singin there. Then jaimee and I retired to k2 for a private session. She started out by giving me a very wet BJ followed by missionary. Lotsa frenchin all the way. Popped a load soon and left again very satisfied.
Philippino women are the finest lookin I have seen yet in the south east asia region.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Sugoi]It is up the street on FB Harrison from the Edsa complex I believe. I have seen a building that says Edsa with a bunch of bars and clubs so I am assuming that is the Edsa Complex.
Most taxi drivers will know it. Tell them FB Harrison and Libertad. I always stay in Makati or Ortigas so I am not sure where that hotel is.
All of the 300 girls dance on stage and most of them will be either topless or fully nude. A few do a show where they actually let guys eat them on stage and put cigarettes, ice cubes and beer bottles in certain places. The other day when I was there the 17 year old girl I mentioned was on stage and about 5 different people ate her out, she then took 2 cigarettes, inserted them, danced around the stage with them there and then gave them back to 2 guys. There is another girl who drips candle wax all over herself on stage... All can be taken to a table or room. But, if you want a particular girl, you have to go before 8 or they will most likely be taken. There is a huge selection before 8:30pm.
However, the downside is that most of the "top" girls don't get there until after 9pm so you may have to wait--it all depends on when the girls show up.[/QUOTE]Just got back from my recent trip to Metro Manila, man o man, let me say that Miss Universal is worth every penny, I spent 3500 pesos at this place for a VIP room drinks for me and the girl BJ/FS no less. Just pick 6 or 7 from the aquarium then have the Floor Manager tell you who's "game". Then pick one from those.
I had a beatiful 18 yo nursing student, this memory will last me for sometime, we did it standing up, doggie, all you have to do is block the door with the table, floor is slippery so just slide it over. You can bring a condom or she can get one from her locker.
The Floor Managers are the ones in blue uniform. Just be patient in choosing since not all are down to go all the way, the FM knows which ones are.
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Miss Universal
[QUOTE=Black04]Just got back from my recent trip to Metro Manila, man o man, let me say that Miss Universal is worth every penny, I spent 3500 pesos at this place for a VIP room drinks for me and the girl BJ/FS no less. Just pick 6 or 7 from the aquarium then have the Floor Manager tell you who's "game". Then pick one from those.
I had a beatiful 18 yo nursing student, this memory will last me for sometime, we did it standing up, doggie, all you have to do is block the door with the table, floor is slippery so just slide it over. You can bring a condom or she can get one from her locker.
The Floor Managers are the ones in blue uniform. Just be patient in choosing since not all are down to go all the way, the FM knows which ones are.[/QUOTE]
Actually, the uniforms change colors on given days. Since you are gone, care to share her number?
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Cebu Local
I do speak some chinese.
I'm caucasian but I'm also local Macau boy and I always leave this clear to the girls.
I'm not a tourist and I always tell them that I know where to find good sex for 400 patacas or less.
Beijing Lover
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Good for you,The cheapest I have been able to haggle is 500 Patacas,BTW are you mandarin or cantonese speaking.I was only able to get that rate with my chinese speaking friend,By myself lowest I have gotten is 600 patacas[/QUOTE]
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Butterfly Bar
[QUOTE=LoveAsian*****s]July 6, 2005, was the grand opening of Butterfly bar on Del Pilar St, next door to Amazonia bar. This is the first go-go bar to open in Manila in about 30 years, so it was a big event indeed![/QUOTE]
Am on safari in Manila and checked out the Butterfly Bar. Standard go-go (bikini dancing) bar owned by the guy who runs Foxy's on P Burgos. There is quality talent available (there was a sweet slim 18yo named Joy circulating as well as some other tasty looking ladies), but IMHO was not the norm and it certainly comes at a price. Bar fine was total PHP1,900, which was a PHP1,000 base fine plus 3x300 peso lady drinks. I thought this was a most odd pricing structure, capturing both the high PHP1,000 bar fine of EDSA Complex as well as the obligatory lady drinks of P Burgos. Considering that Butterfly sits in the neon shadows of LA Cafe just 1 min walk up the street, I struggled to see any strong advantage. There were no less than three girls I recognized as LA Cafe originals, so the talent pool cannot be considered exotic. The girls told me that the girls also come in from Amazonia and the sister bar at Burgos, so expect the talent to shuffle regularly.
All in all, Butterfly Bar is a relaxed and cozy atmosphere compared to LA Cafe and the girls were not as mercenary as P Burgos. The girls did not immediately assault me with lady drink requests (as I dislike at P Burgos) and the girls all cheered when one of the punters brought a girl out. All the benefits of being a new place. Worth checking out and might produce an occasional gem.
AR+
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[QUOTE=Beijing Lover]Cebu Local
I do speak some chinese.
I'm caucasian but I'm also local Macau boy and I always leave this clear to the girls.
I'm not a tourist and I always tell them that I know where to find good sex for 400 patacas or less.
Beijing Lover[/QUOTE]
No Wonder Beijing
I am a recent convert to Macau and have started to go regularly to Macau.Thanks for the tip on how low I can go next time,So what is the lowest you can get the Lisboa girls for LT,Multipule shot and the best time to do so.I presume early morning or late evening??How about the Sex alley girls???
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[QUOTE=Sugoi]Actually, the uniforms change colors on given days. Since you are gone, care to share her number?[/QUOTE]If sorry I can't remember her tag number, but talk to Vangie the FM the girl is an 18 yo nursing student from Fatima, Lives in Caloocan area.
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Anti-GMA Rally
[QUOTE=Red Cork]What is with all this political shit in Phillipines? Is there going to be another coup? A over- throw of the president? And by all reports it seems to be getting real stupid. Is it safe for whitey farang?[/QUOTE]
Happened to be in Manila last week during the big Anti-Arroyo rally, which was held in the Makati business district. Had to walk from my hotel to another hotel for a meeting, so brought my video camera. Getting into one of these demonstrations, you really see how the media (foreign and domestic) can really distort what is really happening. The pictures on TV made it seem like a real massive crowd.
The first picture I took from my hotel room. Once I got down onto the street I could just see people milling around. People must have thought I was bloody CNN or something because, as soon as they spotted me, they started waving their arms and cheering. Quite a festive atmosphere. Basically most people were wearing t-shirts from rival political parties and just chatting with each other.
You can see the pic I took with all the jeepneys lined up. I guess most were just bussed in for the event. I almost fell to the ground laughing when I got near the speaker truck - there was some guy singing "Oust GMA" to the tune from the song "YMCA."
Yeah, I think EVERYBODY is safe for now. Happy mongering. AR+
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[QUOTE=Asian Rain]...there was some guy singing "Oust GMA" to the tune from the song "YMCA."[/QUOTE]A Karaoke Coup, I love it! Now that's the PI. Last time, about 4 or 5 years ago, it was all about cell phone texting. If you didn't have a text enabled cell phone then, you couldn't get into the revolution.
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Media just doesnt Get it
My Manila office is in Makati and I got to see the same rally and the move was festive and an overwhelming majority are basically professional rallyist for hire,In fact one musician I talked to was going to the Pro Government rally last saturday next.He said that as far as he was concerned EVERYBODY was a crook and he didnt care as long as they paid him.Pretty much half the people rallying for both the pro and anti government rally were probably paid.Come on in,It is safe for white Farang,Join the party
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Manila so far
Sorry, some of this is really Makati but I don't feel like sorting it out.
Went out last night to Miss Universal in Pasay City, Harrison Street with a group of 5 girls and another American guy. This is a stripper bar popular with Asian businessmen. It's not at all cheap, as evidenced by the kinds of cars parked out front. For example it costs 5000 to get a VIP room. Lots of drinks are included with this, but you have to negotiate separately for what you to with girls in here. Even so, it's worth coming here just for a look. The girls are mostly the creamy, flawless skin types popular with the clientele that comes here. Lots of nicely shaved pussies too. So even if you don't actually do anything it's worth a look.
It's usually OK bringing regular girls to bars like this. In fact it's good for making them horny, combined with a few glasses of wine, hehe.
After we left here I was able to separate out one of the girls and we went together to Conway in the Shangri-La in Makati. This is a live band place with a dance floor. A few more glasses of wine and some close dancing and I was 'in.'
I'm staying at the Dusit Hotel in Makati. No problems with guests here.
The night before (a Tuesday) I went bar-hopping all over town on my own. I started at Cafe Havana and then Hard Rock in Makati. I spotted a few girls of interest here, but it was still early and I moved on. The scene was probably even better later after I left.
Then I went to EDSA Entertainment Complex, near where EDSA meets Roxas Blvd. I found that I was about the only punter in the whole place. I went to about 4 places in here and there were never more than 2 other guys in a place, sometimes I was the only one. In hindsight it's silly that I didn't take someone from here because I had all kinds of fantastic choices. I did ask and was told that barfines are 1000 and then you negotiate with the girl.
After that I was off to LA Cafe, didn't see much there. Then I went to Ratsky, a live band place. I like the one in Cebu so I checked this one out. Again, not much there that wasn't already attached. By this time the gin tonic count was well into double figures. I was just sober enough to decide that I really didn't want to go back with a girl I didn't know, even though it was tempting to go back to EDSA.
Only spending 3 days here so there won't be time for much more hunting. I've kept my girl in Cagayan waiting long enough.
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Hepatitis Protests
Gents: Thanks for the 2 up on the "protests". Seems that musician understands the score. The jeepneys would be needed to bus protesters in in any event and obviously someone has to organise the gig. I was in Davao a few months back when it was bombed. The Muslims had a "what about" protest outside CityHall, see below, and no one hassled them.
How widespred is hepatitis in the Phils? I find it hard to believe such a fucked up country has such low HIV rates. I read some dumb ass post here about a guy playing the odds because "only" 1-2% of Phil hookers are "officially" HIV+.
Cebu: Thanks for the sex toys addresses; I also found more addresses in AC from Junior's post in AC where I have a mini army of skanks lined up from yahoo. However, I might head south instead. AC strikes me as a one trick town. (That's what Lonely Planet call it:)).
I wil be staying in Ermita early next week but will clear out of town fast. I have a few nearby non L Cafe low life places checked out and will report back when time and God allow.
Looking back on my Phil photos, I have to say I like Phil women. Something ladylike about them. Wife material.
Cebu: if you have any idea where I should go: quiet, safe, not too much rain, lovable ladies seeking wholesome love, please post. I hope the photos etc compensate for ramblings here.
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club Zeus
Anybody heard of this place? May be a bar in Manila/Makati, if so can anyone give me the lowdown?
Thanx,
Spamhog
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AIDs/STD Statistics
I started paying a lot of attention to RP in 97 onward, as I was planning my "big" trip, which actually took place in 2000. In late 99 or early 2000, Erap's administration was unhappy with the statistics on AIDs being collected by the government, so they stopped collecting information at the governmental level. That and the tendency of Filipinos who have contracted the disease to not be as open about it as here in the US (shame perhaps), gives the illusion that the rate is so low. It may be 1%, but it also may be higher, who knows.
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Bar Fines
A few months ago I got to spend some time in Angeles City, my first time in in PI. Bar fines there were about 1000 to 1200, which included everything, except the tip in the morning if I was inclined to do so. Mostly, the girls were young and sweet, I loved it.
I've spent quite a bit of time in Thailand so I'm used to the barfine situation, but in Thailand its only paid to get the girl out of the bar. In Angeles its all paid up front.
My question is, is the way that it's done in Angeles representative of barfines in other places such as Subic and Manila? Some of the reading that I've done seem to suggest its not all the same.
I'm looking at the PI for a retirement place, at least part time.
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bar fine
[QUOTE=Bubbagoes100]A few months ago I got to spend some time in Angeles City, my first time in in PI. Bar fines there were about 1000 to 1200, which included everything, except the tip in the morning if I was inclined to do so. Mostly, the girls were young and sweet, I loved it.
I've spent quite a bit of time in Thailand so I'm used to the barfine situation, but in Thailand its only paid to get the girl out of the bar. In Angeles its all paid up front.
My question is, is the way that it's done in Angeles representative of barfines in other places such as Subic and Manila? Some of the reading that I've done seem to suggest its not all the same.
I'm looking at the PI for a retirement place, at least part time.[/QUOTE]Bubbagoes,
Angeles City is the only place that I know bar fine is included everything.
In Manila, the La Cafe is all freelance. No bar fine, 1000 to 1500 peso all nite, depend
on the girl.
At EDSA Ent. Complex, the 1000 bar fine, 1000 to 2000 to girl st/ Lt.
Makati is 1000 to 1500 peso bar fine 2000-3000 peso to the girl st / Lt.
The girl in Manila is much better quality than Angeles .
Fast Eddie 48
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[QUOTE=Mahku]Sorry, some of this is really Makati but I don't feel like sorting it out.
Went out last night to Miss Universal in Pasay City, Harrison Street with a group of 5 girls and another American guy. This is a stripper bar popular with Asian businessmen. It's not at all cheap, as evidenced by the kinds of cars parked out front. For example it costs 5000 to get a VIP room. Lots of drinks are included with this, but you have to negotiate separately for what you to with girls in here. Even so, it's worth coming here just for a look. The girls are mostly the creamy, flawless skin types popular with the clientele that comes here. Lots of nicely shaved pussies too. So even if you don't actually do anything it's worth a look.
It's usually OK bringing regular girls to bars like this. In fact it's good for making them horny, combined with a few glasses of wine, hehe.
After we left here I was able to separate out one of the girls and we went together to Conway in the Shangri-La in Makati. This is a live band place with a dance floor. A few more glasses of wine and some close dancing and I was 'in.'
I'm staying at the Dusit Hotel in Makati. No problems with guests here.
The night before (a Tuesday) I went bar-hopping all over town on my own. I started at Cafe Havana and then Hard Rock in Makati. I spotted a few girls of interest here, but it was still early and I moved on. The scene was probably even better later after I left.
Then I went to EDSA Entertainment Complex, near where EDSA meets Roxas Blvd. I found that I was about the only punter in the whole place. I went to about 4 places in here and there were never more than 2 other guys in a place, sometimes I was the only one. In hindsight it's silly that I didn't take someone from here because I had all kinds of fantastic choices. I did ask and was told that barfines are 1000 and then you negotiate with the girl.
After that I was off to LA Cafe, didn't see much there. Then I went to Ratsky, a live band place. I like the one in Cebu so I checked this one out. Again, not much there that wasn't already attached. By this time the gin tonic count was well into double figures. I was just sober enough to decide that I really didn't want to go back with a girl I didn't know, even though it was tempting to go back to EDSA.
Only spending 3 days here so there won't be time for much more hunting. I've kept my girl in Cagayan waiting long enough.[/QUOTE]They mush charge foreigners more, I only paid 2500 for the VIP room, enough drinks to get the girl tipsy and horny, I eventually fucked her in the VIP room, we blocked the door with the coffee table, total damage including the tips was close to 5k.
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re. Bar Fines
I cant speak for Subic-area, but in Manila you have to pay additional for the service of the ladies.
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Look for infos about Manilla.
Does anybody knows a website to rent a furnished apartment in Manilla?
Manilla seems to me a paradise to chat up non-pros and very interesting concerning pros.
I will have 1 month off and I hesitate between one country in South America, Venezuela or Costa Rica or going to Manilla.
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I have stayed at OAKWOOD in Makati at about usd.100 a night, plus taxes. It is a socalled "serviced apartment", breakfast included. No problem bringing ladies to your room.
I Guess the prices listed on their website is negotiable! ?
[url]http://www.oakwood.com/corporate-apartments/furnished/PH/Manila/prop41.html[/url]
Perhaps you can get a better rate, depending on how long you will stay.
[QUOTE=Volpone]Does anybody knows a website to rent a furnished apartment in Manilla?
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Cheaper Options in Makati
Hi Marconista
Anyway cheaper and further down the foodchain are the serviced 3 star apartments of Makati Avenue,Since Oakwood is 5 star,Sunnete Tower on Makati ave about 50 Meters off P. Burgos street. Studios at around 18T a month for Studios and 25T for One bedroom units or about 320$ to 450$.Let me know if you want to go lower on the food chain.Sunette 632-8971804 8971806 Look for Ricky
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Manila Visit
I will be visiting Manila for a few days. I know nothing about Manila though. I have read past posts but am not able to picture where the nightlife is in relation to each other. It seems it is spread out??
I was hopeing someone who is familiar with the Manila nightlife could suggest a good, clean, inexpensive hotel to stay that would be close to EDSA?
Is LA Cafe close to EDSA?
What other nightlife should I visit if I stay near EDSA?
Is Manila safe for a lone western travler?
What is the best way to get around to the different nightlife venues?
Thanks!
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Monthly Rentals
I was wondering the same thing. I just returned to the States after a 6 week stay in Manila. Stayed at the Richmonde in a 1 bedroom suite for about 2 weeks, had some huge cockroaches so I moved to Linden Suites for about 2 1/2 weeks to a 1 bedroom suite when my wife came.
After my wife left I decided I didn't need to be in Ortigas and could move to Makati so I stayed in the City Garden for 1 night, didn't like that so I moved to the Mandarin for my last 1 1/2 weeks. When it was all said and done, I spent probably about 200,000+ pesos on rooms.
Next time I go I would like to look for a place on a monthly basis but I don't want to be near the Burgos area because my wife and some clients will probably be there. I was told that for about 100,000 I can find an independent person who would rent a nice place. I'll probably need to go back to Ortigas the next time I am there.
Anyone know if this 100,000 is an accurate number?
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Sugoi]I was wondering the same thing. I just returned to the States after a 6 week stay in Manila. Stayed at the Richmonde in a 1 bedroom suite for about 2 weeks, had some huge cockroaches so I moved to Linden Suites for about 2 1/2 weeks to a 1 bedroom suite when my wife came.
After my wife left I decided I didn't need to be in Ortigas and could move to Makati so I stayed in the City Garden for 1 night, didn't like that so I moved to the Mandarin for my last 1 1/2 weeks. When it was all said and done, I spent probably about 200,000+ pesos on rooms.
Next time I go I would like to look for a place on a monthly basis but I don't want to be near the Burgos area because my wife and some clients will probably be there. I was told that for about 100,000 I can find an independent person who would rent a nice place. I'll probably need to go back to Ortigas the next time I am there.
Anyone know if this 100,000 is an accurate number?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]that is a very decent budget by manila standards,you can rent at rockwell center or top end condos with that budget, I presume you prefer Ortigas center,have you considered Discovery Suites,this is where the ADB executives stay and It has central location.
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Thanks guys
Thanks guys for the infos.
Well it seems to me that Manilla is very expensive to rent a studio or a small furnished apartment, what is the best way to bring girls back.
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condos
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]that is a very decent budget by manila standards,you can rent at rockwell center or top end condos with that budget, I presume you prefer Ortigas center,have you considered Discovery Suites,this is where the ADB executives stay and It has central location.[/QUOTE]
I would recommend moveandstay.com. I found a very nice furnished studio in a good part of Makati for 30,000. For 100,000, you should be able to find something exceptional. I am currently paying 80,000 for 2,500 sq ft in one of the best (in my opinion, the best) buildings in Makati, but to get a rate like that you would need a 6 month lease at least.
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Odds and ends
On arrival at the Cebu Pacific terminal I was pleasantly surprised to find a metered taxi rank (and not screwy meters either). It was just 70 pesos to the Dusit. This is the first time in years of arrivals at this terminal to have metered taxis available so close to baggage claim. Also, they've cleared the touts that used to pounce on people just outside of baggage claim. Could somebody with good sense finally be in charge at the airport here? However, I did read that in August a new taxi scheme will be started, with new flat fees to different parts of town. So the happy situation could be short-lived.
Besides that it didn't take me long to get fed up with these Manila taxi guys. There's always trying to scam you somehow. This never seems to happen in Cebu or Davao. Just be firm and they'll switch on the meter.
I went by the Rockwell Mall late one afternoon. There was some good eye candy to be sure. Some of it was definitely of the attitude variety though. For my money Glorietta is a much better place to hunt. But that's just one guy's impression from one visit.
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manila
[QUOTE=Monopoly]I will be visiting Manila for a few days. I know nothing about Manila though. I have read past posts but am not able to picture where the nightlife is in relation to each other. It seems it is spread out??
I was hopeing someone who is familiar with the Manila nightlife could suggest a good, clean, inexpensive hotel to stay that would be close to EDSA?
Is LA Cafe close to EDSA?
What other nightlife should I visit if I stay near EDSA?
Is Manila safe for a lone western travler?
What is the best way to get around to the different nightlife venues?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Monopoly,
La cafe is in Emirita, Edsa is in Pasay near the airport 20 min taxi. Most
hotel in Emirita are only 3 star, 25 usd to 35 usd a night.
Malate is a better choice is 10 min walk from LA Cafe, many bars around this area with the Robinson Mall, which is very good for hunting .
Malate hotels:
3 star hotel - Rothman Inn - 1400 peso very friendly staff
4 star hotel - Pan Pacific -2600 peso - nice hotel w casino
4 star hotel - Grand bivd - 2000 peso - nice hotel in Roxas Blvd w skyline massage on the 10 th floor w casino
I try all this hotel before. Last trip 2 months ago I stayed in Grand Bivd and tried the massage for 2700, massage and fs. You can walk to La cafe or 15 min taxi
to EDSA.
Fast eddie 48
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[QUOTE=Mahku]...Besides that it didn't take me long to get fed up with these Manila taxi guys. There's always trying to scam you somehow. This never seems to happen in Cebu or Davao. Just be firm and they'll switch on the meter...[/QUOTE]Thanks, I've always wondered whether the taxi scoundrels are just a Manila thing, or whether they are also that bad in other PI cities that I'm not familiar with. Anyone else have any comparisons they can offer on whether to expect the same thing elsewhere in the RP? I quite agree that Manila taxi drivers are not to be trusted, and I stay on guard with them every moment.
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[QUOTE=Black04]They mush charge foreigners more, I only paid 2500 for the VIP room, enough drinks to get the girl tipsy and horny, I eventually fucked her in the VIP room, we blocked the door with the coffee table, total damage including the tips was close to 5k.[/QUOTE]
I heard the 5000 quote second hand, although it was from an expat businessman who probably doesn't care about paying that much. I should stick to quoting things I've personally experienced. Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Mahku]I heard the 5000 quote second hand, although it was from an expat businessman who probably doesn't care about paying that much. I should stick to quoting things I've personally experienced. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
I am assuming you are talking about Miss Universal. I can confirm that it is 2500 consumable for a VIP room or 3500 for a larger VIP room or the upstairs VIP rooms with Karaoke.
My advice is to talk to the Floor Manager (I recommend Vangie) and tip her a couple hundred and ask her who is game. Then, take the 2500 VIP room because if you get a Karaoke room the girl might want to waste your time and sing. It costs 460 pesos/hour for a girl which includes one drink for her. If it is just you, buy 3 or 4 drinks for the girl up front and then the waitress won't bother you for 3 or 4 hours. In that time you should be able to get a good GFE.
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Freelancers
Don't know why my post isn't showing up in the Makati section, but what the heck, this is Manila also:
It seems like you can easily pick up girls many public places. For example the Makati area around the Landmark mall. They hang out at the Starbuck's on Dela Rosa and Rizal Drive and will wave at you or approach you, it's a sure bet. It's interesting that you can't ever get one approaching you in the mall or openly in the parks, but rather on certain side-walks, particularly where those abundant security people won't see.
On one of the pedestrian overpasses over Makati Ave to Greenbelt Park, a girl got into my way asking me "can I go with you?". But I didn't know how to react and just went on. Then around that small park on Rizal and North Drive I saw two really pretty girls there, and it was very, very tempting. So, I had a cigaret close by hoping they might approach me and I could at least chat a bit to find out what's in store and how I could get them into my hotel room without hassles. But they didn't come to me. However, as I walked by them they "hello"-ed me as I expected.
But I'm not a real monger, have business associates staying with me in the same hotel and didn't want to run into them with the girls. I'm kind of shy and wasn't up to it tonight because I have to get up early tomorrow. So I just passed by. Perhaps a shame from a monger's viewpoint, the one was really pretty as far as I could see. Darn, I feel like going right back and see if they are still there (suspect not.) If I was less inhibited, I should have availed of this offer. Perhaps next time when I am here alone.
Anyway, to me this seems far more straight-forward than these bars, simply cutting out overpriced drinks and barfine, and instead get right down to it. The cozy part of the night is longer that way also, as it is only 10 pm.
The hotel makes a big deal about being careful with "people" who approach you. So I don't know if some of those are scams, particularly because there were also a lot of local guys hanging out. What's the risk?
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Swagman Hotel, Manila
I'm planning a trip (my second) to the PI and would like to know if anyone has stayed at the Swagman Hotel in Manila and what they thought of it?
Is it convenient to good mongering areas? Any good info would be appreciated, I'm kind of thinking about a Manila, Angeles, Subic and Bagiuo loop.
One more, I have not been able to find if there are flights from Manila to Phnom Phen, anyone know about this?
Thanks, and hope to repay with some travel reports.
Bubbagoes
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Flights
Brothers, I must apologise, I had previously asked about flights from Manila to Phnom Phen and you had responded. Once I start thinking about heading over yonder I get CRS.
Thanks for the info about the flights.
Bubbagoes
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As far as I can recall, there are plenty posts about Swagman in the forum, and none very positive.
[QUOTE=Bubbagoes100]I'm planning a trip (my second) to the PI and would like to know if anyone has stayed at the Swagman Hotel in Manila and what they thought of it?Bubbagoes[/QUOTE]
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swagman hotel
[QUOTE=Bubbagoes100]I'm planning a trip (my second) to the PI and would like to know if anyone has stayed at the Swagman Hotel in Manila and what they thought of it?
Is it convenient to good mongering areas? Any good info would be appreciated, I'm kind of thinking about a Manila, Angeles, Subic and Bagiuo loop.
One more, I have not been able to find if there are flights from Manila to Phnom Phen, anyone know about this?
Thanks, and hope to repay with some travel reports.
Bubbagoes[/QUOTE]To bubbagoes,
Swagman is a dump, very old motel with smelly room, there is many hotel around emirta area $ 20-25.00 usd cheaper and better. They do have a bus service to Angeles City, but is twice as much than Phililpine Rabbit bus line.
Manila to Phnom Phen, you need to go to bangkok first Thai Airway or Malay
Asia Air line thur KL, or Cathay Pacific to Hong Kong and Dragon Air to PP.
Fast Eddie 48
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swagman hotel
Bubba,
Trust me you dont want to stay in Swagman Hotel. Place is a dump, no working ac, bugs all over the place. Try Lotus Garden Hotel around same area.
Need more info pm me,
The Cat
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Fast Eddie 48:
Where did you find your hotel prices? I have been to the Manila area 5 times in the last two years and plan on going again in October. I have never seen the Pan Pacific for less than $80.00 a night. I would book this hotel in a second for 2600 pesos, it is head and shoulders above the other two you mentioned.
I also stayed at the Gr. Blvd and was not impressed. The staff was very friendly, Skyline was a nice convenience. I was in one of the so called "newly rennovated rooms" they were somewhat run down with a musty smell and not the best AC., without IDD telephones and room safes. Room service was over priced and cold.
Still a good value at $45.00 a night.
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manila hotel
[QUOTE=On The Go]Fast Eddie 48:
Where did you find your hotel prices? I have been to the Manila area 5 times in the last two years and plan on going again in October. I have never seen the Pan Pacific for less than $80.00 a night. I would book this hotel in a second for 2600 pesos, it is head and shoulders above the other two you mentioned.
I also stayed at the Gr. Blvd and was not impressed. The staff was very friendly, Skyline was a nice convenience. I was in one of the so called "newly rennovated rooms" they were somewhat run down with a musty smell and not the best AC., without IDD telephones and room safes. Room service was over priced and cold.
Still a good value at $45.00 a night.[/QUOTE]Hey on the go,
I stay there back on 2002 for 2 night. It is around 2600 peso for a single std room with no view. You need to shop around for price on hotel, internet doesn't alway get you the best rate. Check with travel agent in Malate area or just show up if they have room you will get a good deal, $ 80.00 USD a night is too much. You can stay at the new Hyatt for $ 65.00 new hotel they have alot of empty room now is slow season. Grand Bivd is a little rundown need renovation but skyline is great.
You need to know how to bargin in manila same way with the girl
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Fast Eddie,
How would you suggest I go about getting a room at the new Hyatt for $65.00 a night? I won't be able to walk up to the front desk and haggle with them over prices. The problem is after my 17 hour flight the earliest I arrive in Manila is 11:00 p.m. after immigration and customs it is around midnight. I usually stay for 10-14 days and have 2-3 suitcases, therefore I need my accomodations lined up before I arrive.
Any suggestions how to attain this fantastic rate prior to arrival?
Thanks for the input.
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Hyatt
[QUOTE=On The Go]Fast Eddie,
How would you suggest I go about getting a room at the new Hyatt for $65.00 a night? I won't be able to walk up to the front desk and haggle with them over prices. The problem is after my 17 hour flight the earliest I arrive in Manila is 11:00 p.m. after immigration and customs it is around midnight. I usually stay for 10-14 days and have 2-3 suitcases, therefore I need my accomodations lined up before I arrive.
Any suggestions how to attain this fantastic rate prior to arrival?
Thanks for the input.[/QUOTE]
Hi OTG,
Haven't heard from you for a while... Good to hear you are going back to the Philippines. Try this site:
[url]http://www.asiarooms.com/philippines/manila/hyatt_regency.html[/url]
It is showing $59 or $65 for a room depending on the date.
Shoot me an e-mail if you have a chance.
Sugoi
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Oops--that was the old Hyatt
I just noticed that was the one built in 1967 but it is a "5" star according to the website...
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Manila Report
Spent a few days in Manila this week. Here is my report:
Entertainment Center across the street from the domestic airport is still dead. I was talking to the Belgian manager and he said they tried everything to get people out there, but until now no result. The 7-8 bars there are filled with talent and very, very few customers. At 10:00pm, I saw only one white guy and three Japanese guys in all of the bars. Anyway, I pulled one out of My Fair Lady who claimed to be "new on the game" and never been with a customer. How many of you hear the same story? Does anybody believe this? To cut a long story short, service was just average and the damage was 1,000 bar fine + 1,500 ST for the girl.
Next night, I came back from a business function rather late so called for room service to the hotel from a freebie girl I've known for a couple of years. She brought a friend and they gave me a very nice massage followed by a joint BBBJ. I straddled the friend and did her Russian while the other girl rimmed me from behind. I could not take this for too long and blew CIF on the friend. Very nice finish. Damage was only 1,000 for the friend.
At the recommendation of Cebu Local, I tried the Skyline. Frankly, I was disappointed with the experience. Cebu Local explained that it was 1,000 for the house, 1,000 for the girl. When we got there, they said it was 1,400 for the house, but they would settle for 1,200. I insisted that I was told 1,000 so she made a call and agreed. We picked our girls from one room since we were told the fish tank was under renovation. The girl gave me a shower, but kept her clothes on. When I asked why, she told me that customers took advantage and did not take the "extra service" available. As she was giving me the massage (still fully clothed), she started discussing the price of 1,500 pesos. I told her my friend said 1,000. She stopped the massage (back only) after about 20 minutes total and told me I could take a nap until the time was up since I did not want the "extra service". She started to cry about my offer for 1,000. What bullshit is this? I finally agreed to the 1,500 since I had already invested 1,000 in a worthless massage. I asked for BBBJ and she said covered only and started to cry again. I could see this was going downhill, showered and left, 1,000 poorer and still horny.
After dinner, I went to the LA Cafe. The place was packed. I pulled a half black girl (JoAnna). Again, service was just average. Too many teeth in the BBBJ and she appeared to be in pain with the FS, even missionary. Either being fooled and not sadistic, I stopped and finished with a BBBJCIM. Damage for ST was 1,000 + 100 taxi fare. I am curious about pricing out of LA Cafe for the veterans. One Brit I met there claimed he never pays more than 800 LT, plus breakfast. The girl told me that some of the "older" ladies may go for 500 ST, but not the younger, better looking ones. And, I've read about different prices on this thread. What is the going rate?
OAH
P.S. It seems to me that the P4P service level in Manila is getting worse. At least, I've noticed this on my last few trips this year. Is it just my perception, pure bad luck, or a real trend?
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[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Spent a few days in Manila this week. Here is my report:
Entertainment Center across the street from the domestic airport is still dead. I was talking to the Belgian manager and he said they tried everything to get people out there, but until now no result. The 7-8 bars there are filled with talent and very, very few customers. At 10:00pm, I saw only one white guy and three Japanese guys in all of the bars. Anyway, I pulled one out of My Fair Lady who claimed to be "new on the game" and never been with a customer. How many of you hear the same story? Does anybody believe this? To cut a long story short, service was just average and the damage was 1,000 bar fine + 1,500 ST for the girl.
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Yes, I hear the "my first day" story a lot. However, many times it is true. You would be surprised on the number of women who work in a bar only a day or two before deciding it is not for them. After a having a 100 or so girls, you develop a good sense on knowing which ones really a day old, as opposed to the fakes. I can usually tell before calling them over, although I certainly make plenty of bad calls.
And yes, the Entertainment center really is dead. Lots of tallent, but know customers. I don't how much longer the place will survice, so if you like LOTS of attention, its the place to go.
I would have to disagree with oldasianhand that the talent in Manila is weak right now. As long as you hit the right bars, you should have absolutely no problem. Right now, my short list of the best bars in Manila are:
Flamingo -Burgos
Bullets and Arrows - EDSA
Firehouse - EDSA
Visions - Roxas
Foxys - Burgos
While the top bars generally stay on top, and the bottom bars stay at the bottom, there are always changes for the 90% in the middle. just a couple of months ago, you could always find a babe at Rascalls or dimples, while Hollywood and the Jungle/ivory coast were full of old hags. Now, it is the reverse.
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Entertainment center
I made my first trip to the domestic airport entertainment center. I can see two reasons why it's dead. First, it's poorly named. Second, the taxi driver's don't know about it. If you want to go there and the taxi driver is confused, ask to go to the domestic airport. You'll be on a large road and you'll see the Cebu Pacific buildings. If I recall, there is a big red sign out front. The sign says, "Entertainment Center".
When the taxi pulled in I noticed numerous girls standing out front of each establishment and they'll be shouting for you to come to there bar. Most places had few or no customers.
The first place I went to, there was a dancer with a playboy centerfold body. Or so I thought. When I got her down next to me, she turns out to be 4'9". But, what a bod. I would have barfined her but....
In another bar I found something I liked. MaryAnne had anne tatooed on her right thigh. Really sweet girl in a reall slutty way.She liked sticking her tongue out, letting you know she loves to suck things. I would have barfined her but....
...both these ladies told me they lived with their families. Ooops...."can you stay all night?" The answer was no. I ended up going to EDSA entertainment center. The girl MaryAnne, I got her phone number. The next day, I called her up and invited her to my room for some fun before her work. She said her mother wouldn't let her go without an escort.
Wow, *****s with curfews and chaperones.
X
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Prices
The fact that EDSA Entertainment Center is quiet is nothing new, nor is it surprising. At the same time LA Cafe is full. Maybe the owners and girls at EDSA should wake up to the fact that 1000 bar fine plus say 1500 ST for the girl is simply not going to work. Especially with LA Cafe having no bar fines and AC 1000 Peso, no extras for the girl. Strange the way some people run businesses. Burgos is different as it is in Makati and some companies take guests there on 'expense accounts', hence the ridiculous bar fine & drinks prices.
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entertainment center
i agree with xmen and fastpiston , in manila there is so many option i have no idea why the new entertainment center is bulid , the old edsa ent center don't have enough customer already , they need to lower the bar fine to get more customer, I think 500 peso is a good number .
We can go to LA cafe no bar fine or go to angeles city or cebu that is much cheaper, so many choice so little time.
Fast eddie 48
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where to go
I'm suppose to go to the Manila area sometime in the middle to late Septemeber. I will have a couple free nights before I'm suppose to meet a girl. Well me being a bad boy and all, I want to spend a couple nights in the good areas. Should I ahng out around Makati, or somewhere else. I don't want to spend to much money, but I still want a decent room nd a nice selection of girls. I don't want to be too far from the airport either.
Thanks
Gagoo
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EDSA prices
I usually pay 1500 for long time. If they try to leave early I give them 1000 and complain that I thought it was for all night. Some complain and some don't. I guess you can call me cheap Charley.
I don't mind the bar fine price at EDSA though. Getting to see the girls half naked is a big plus. You know what you're getting and what you aren't getting (stretch marks for example). I usually pay quite a bit more for a date here where I am....I mean a normal date where you might not even get a kiss good night.
X
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Let me clarify
[QUOTE=LoveAsian*****s]
I would have to disagree with oldasianhand that the talent in Manila is weak right now. As long as you hit the right bars, you should have absolutely no problem. Right now, my short list of the best bars in Manila are:
Flamingo -Burgos
Bullets and Arrows - EDSA
Firehouse - EDSA
Visions - Roxas
Foxys - Burgos
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LAW,
Sorry if I was confusing. I was talking about the service level of the sex, not the quality and appearance of the talent. I agree that there are still plenty of hot looking girls available in Manila. They just seem not to try as hard to please as they used to. Maybe it is just me.
OAH
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Good Point
X-Man,
Thanks for the advice. I will try that next time, but I hate to get into a pissing match with the girl about the money after the fact. What do you do if they refuse to accept and will not leave the room?
The girls in places like LA Cafe in Manila and Thermae in Bangkok tend to cover up with clothing and you get the strech marks more often than not. This can often be the case with the "PR" girls in EDSA, as well.
Just my POV.
OAH
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Stretch marks
I once barfined a beauty from one of the bars in EDSA who wore a bikini in the bar and looked fabulous. She had a very agreeable personality, and so we went to Adriatico to eat, drink and dance and then back to the hotel.
When she disrobed, what a shock! Huge stretch marks! I couldn't believe it, and couldn't even bang the girl. Had to settle for a blowjob instead. Later I learned from another bargirl that sometimes, the girls will use a flour-like powder to cover up these marks. Just ask the girl if she has had any kids to forestall any nasty surprises.
Don
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[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand][QUOTE=LoveAsian*****s]
I would have to disagree with oldasianhand that the talent in Manila is weak right now. As long as you hit the right bars, you should have absolutely no problem. Right now, my short list of the best bars in Manila are:
Flamingo -Burgos
Bullets and Arrows - EDSA
Firehouse - EDSA
Visions - Roxas
Foxys - Burgos
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LAW,
Sorry if I was confusing. I was talking about the service level of the sex, not the quality and appearance of the talent. I agree that there are still plenty of hot looking girls available in Manila. They just seem not to try as hard to please as they used to. Maybe it is just me.
OAH[/QUOTE]OAH
My friend,maybe it was just bad luck,I just came back after bringing 2 japanese Travel agents to skyline and they seemed satisfied.They overpaid off course,But hell its their money.I will agree with you that the service and skill level is so much better in BKK or Macau or China.Even in attitude,A Macau friend of mine who owns a Casino in Macau commented that It is hard to find an intelligent Filipina nowadays.We were having lunch at Shang Palace at the Shangrila and He was commenting on the poor service.I told him the best waiters,cooks and girls are all abroad now
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Sex toys
Hi,
Anyone know where I can buy sex toys in Makati area?
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[QUOTE=My Kapitan]Hi,
Anyone know where I can buy sex toys in Makati area?[/QUOTE]Better then bare,ground floor BSA Mansions ground floor Benavidez street,Legaspi Village,Makati
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duh!
I think it was a friend of Cebu Local that commented about many of the intelligent Filipinos have left.
Well, that sounds a bit racist, but a few funny stories popped into my head.
In Cebu, I go to a bar (I think Viking) which is really nice, nicely decorated, some really cute girls. I am the first customer, but I don't remember the time. I suspect the bar has just opened. Anyway, I'm drinking my beer and watching a few ladies dancing. I lean over to the fat bartender and ask, "What time does this bar open?" She answers, "The bar is open, sir."
Another story. Just arrived in Manila and I'm in the Internet cafe. An online girl from Davao that I chatted with only briefly a month earlier pops on (yahoo messenger) and we chat a bit. As a curtesy I tell her my name and where I live so that she remembers who I am. At some point I ask her for her phone number.
"Why, are you going to call me?"
"Maybe, I answer."
She gives me the number and I immediately text her, including my name. Got that? (X Man) is chatting with her at ym and asks for her phone number which is followed one minute later by a text message from (X Man).
She sends a reply text, "Who are you?" "How did you get my number".
At first I thought she was jokiing, but she wasn't.
BTW, you can hear more about this brilliant young lady if you go to the Filipina section and see my posts about the fiance.
X Man
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What this forum is all about
Thank you Cebu Local, I live in Dubai and I am just here for a couple of weeks. My regular wants something to stuff her girlfriends with while I watch so I said I will do my best. Toys are not available there (OK at a price they are) so I will get them here and hope I dont get stopped at the arrivals gate!
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Stretch Marks
I would advise that you always ask a girl if she 1) has a baby and 2) if she 'goes hotel' all night, BEFORE buying her a ladies drink. If the answer is 'yes' to the first question or 'no' to the second ('I am Cherry Girl' or menstruating or only do bar-hopping), then tell the waitress who is pestering you to buy a ladies drink that you are going to choose another girl, sorry..so many girls, so little time for getting the run-around.
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Mahal's Manila trip
Returned to MNL a few days ago, downloaded the WSG postings to my PDA, it made good reading for the plane!
Arrived in the evening and went to EDSA complex to try Belts & Whistles around 11PM. Quality was OK but really not as good as I would have hoped. Only thing that is a little different is that the girls wear some kind of indian (as in cowboys and indians) outfit, which I was told they need to actually rent from the club.
Mamasan pushed an average looking girl with a nice personality to my table and after many drinks (for me) and out of laziness (mostly because I had a meeting early in the morning) I decided it would be easier to pick her than cross the hall to Firehouse. The girl was working hard on convincing me to take her. Pretty much as I was getting ready to check out with her, I could see the girl looking embarassed and speaking in Tagalog to the mamasan. A regular customer of hers had just walked in. She quickly moved to the guy's table after an apology...and in time reminded me that she works there and is not my girlfriend. Of course the mamasan did everything to keep me there, and threw in a "BJ specialist". She said all the right things and we left. Turned out to be less pretty in the light than in the club, pretended to do a BBBJ CIM but made me come on her breasts at the last second, I called it a night and sent her home. Definitely no BJ specialist.
Conclusion: I am not going back to Belts & Whistles.
Next day I thought I would try Hard Rock and then cafe Havana in Greenbelt. Since I am not from MNL it took me a while to figure out that Greenbelt is in Makati and within walking distance of the Hard Rock. Greenbelt is actually a pretty nice place (restaurants/shopping center type) and there are girls hanging around on all levels, not just at Cafe Havana. Some winked at me, some looked like they were just waiting to be approached. By the way there is another Cafe Havana or maybe Havana Cafe at a different address in the phone book, so it is easier to locate Greenbelt, near the Shangri La.
About 6 girls at Hard Rock, maybe because of the 300 pesos cover charge that night (Friday), mostly in the smoking section at the bar. They look around and make eye contact but I did not see them really directly approaching anyone. I had dinner there and moved on to Cafe Havana. There is a large sitting area outside, very crowded that night, and a dance floor inside. Overall much more upscale than LA Cafe and good quality of girls, some non-pro and some not working either. I was approached by a cutie in a red dress who flirted and danced with me. Took her home and she stayed till morning. Fairly shy girl though, she drank herself to a near coma to relax and still would not do much besides regular FS, limited BJ for about 20 seconds. OK, but no more.
Next day Saturday I went to LA Cafe at 6PM. Good crowd, a girl approached me and sat there for a while. I did not like her so she got another girl for me (and later asked for a tip). A little 21 yo cutie, it did not take long till she was in my room. But there again very shy, would not do much, would not even show me her backside, supposedly reserved for her boyfriend. Nice personality, nice girl, very pretty, but not was I was looking for. So she went home, or probably back to LA Cafe.
I thought I needed to finish with some fireworks and had never been to Miss Universal, so I got into a taxi. I was surprised by MU because it does not look like much from the outside but is quite nice inside. Big stage with some shows and some of the girls get naked after 10 or 11PM. Mamasan took me to the fishbowl part where I picked Kate #17, supposedly 19 yo and later 18yo. Very, very pretty, very beautiful girls in this place, definitely better than elsewhere. BUT, the mamasan absolutely insisted that I should take the girl out and pay the barfine rather than go into a VIP room. For an hour with the barfine and a couple drinks for the girl the bill was 7880P, meaning this is definitely not cheap. But I thought the girl looked so good I had to do it (BTW it's 10% more if you pay by Visa rather than cash, but I did not have 8000 P cash with me so...). Took her back to the hotel and she was even more shy than anyone I have ever met in my life. I took her to the hotel bar first where she had several tequilas and later to the room. There she complained that I was "too big" but would'nt do BJ of any kind, all lights turned off, and then she had to leave by 3AM, which of course she never mentioned before (in the bar she did tell me she has a bay and it showed...). I let her go but she said she would come back at 8AM (I had to leave at 10AM to get my flight). She only asked for money for the taxi but I gave her 2000P, I imagine you need to pay these girls?
I never expected her to come back so I was shocked when she showed up at 7AM, with a friend! I thought my luck had turned and was already visualizing a big party with both girls. Wrong. I went to the bathroom and when I came back they were both fast asleep on my bed, almost in a coma, nothing would wake them up. I kicked them out at 10AM, got on my flight and thought I'd rather forget the whole episode.
I am sure most others would have handled things differently but hey, that's me and I got what I bargained for I guess.
Conclusion:
I won't pick an 18 year old the next time I want great sex.
MU is more upscale than any other place and is realy nice but expensive (and everyone is asking for tips when you leave too).
Cafe Havana and the surrounding area are real nice
Hard Rock is so so in my book
LA Cafe is hit/miss with a lot of seasoned, sometimes too seasoned, pros.
EDSA is quick but also hit/miss. Not all mamasans are reliable.
PS: I was told by a girl that all the waitresses at LA Cafe go out also. Is that true? If I knew, I would have picked the waitress!
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Hard Rock
[QUOTE=Mahal]
About 6 girls at Hard Rock, maybe because of the 300 pesos cover charge that night (Friday), mostly in the smoking section at the bar. They look around and make eye contact but I did not see them really directly approaching anyone. I had dinner there and moved on to Cafe Havana. There is a large sitting area outside, very crowded that night, and a dance floor inside. Overall much more upscale than LA Cafe and good quality of girls, some non-pro and some not working either. I was approached by a cutie in a red dress who flirted and danced with me. Took her home and she stayed till morning. Fairly shy girl though, she drank herself to a near coma to relax and still would not do much besides regular FS, limited BJ for about 20 seconds. OK, but no more.[/QUOTE]
Mahal,
The girls don't really approach you in the Hard Rock. In one of the many times I was there, I saw two girls escorted out when one of the bartenders called the manager after they approached me and he overheard their questions to me. I asked why he did that, he said that they don't allow girls to sell themselves in the restaurant. They have an international reputation, they must up hold. But, if a male approaches a woman who smiled at them, it's like just like asking for a dance.
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LA Cafe Waitresses
[QUOTE=Mahal]I was told by a girl that all the waitresses at LA Cafe go out also. Is that true? If I knew, I would have picked the waitress![/QUOTE]
I asked a few girls, but they said if they were "caught," they would be fired. I eventually was texting two girls who contracts expired a few weeks later, and had a great time after they stopped working there. BTW, some of the girls in LA are actually ex-waitresses. That's how they know the waitresses so well that they can get free food, or drinks sometimes when their boss isn't paying attention.
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Grand Hotel Massage - What Happened?
Hey guys,
I was in Manila about 2 weeks ago and I had such great experiences at the massage place in the Grand Hotel on Roxas ( next to Adriatico Restaurant ) that I thought I would stop in on my way to the airport as I was leaving town. I went up the elevator, and to my surprise, there was no fishbowl to select the girls from. Instead I was led down the hallway to a room with a tv and a few chairs and couches, and there were about 10 girls all in street clothes. I was a little confused at first, but then it dawned on me that I should be selecting my massage lady from these girls. The girls didn't look too attractive and I ended up leaving with no massage. Did they get busted or something? I looks like they are trying not to look like a massage place now.
I miss the old place, and the old style. Lots of good memories, but I probably won't be back if this is how it is going to be now.
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Mahku,
Regarding Miss Universal, the P7880 is the complete barfine. You need not give the girl anything else, except P300-P500 as a generous tip/cab fare. She will probably make around P3,000-P4,000 out the barfine. Miss Universal would be considered B-List Upscale clubs, similar to Dynasty Real, Mystique, and most clubs along Roxas Blvd. The A-list would be Legende, Pegasus, Air Force-1, Heartbeat.
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[QUOTE=genuis8]Mahku,
Regarding Miss Universal, the P7880 is the complete barfine. You need not give the girl anything else, except P300-P500 as a generous tip/cab fare. She will probably make around P3,000-P4,000 out the barfine. Miss Universal would be considered B-List Upscale clubs, similar to Dynasty Real, Mystique, and most clubs along Roxas Blvd. The A-list would be Legende, Pegasus, Air Force-1, Heartbeat.[/QUOTE]
Genuis8, thank you for the clarification, I will know better next time. Are the A-list clubs in the same price range as MU or still higher?
Mahal
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Internet Cafe with Private Room?
The girl I met from Miss Universal I mentioned several times now lives near Miss Universal but doesn't work there any more. I have been chatting with her on a cam in a public cafe but would like to see a little more...
She has asked for an internet cafe with a private room but hasn't found one around there. She lives about 5 minutes north of MU off FB Harrison. Anyone know of one in that area?
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Busted
A friend of minewho works at Jurassic next to LA Cafe said her club was busted by police this week. Don't know what it means. She is not able to work until she gets her permit straightened out.
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Angles City post
I posted this report in the Angels City section, but since I am a regular in the Manila forum and many Manilans make Angeles City side trips, I am also posting it here. If you want to respond to it, you should do so in the Ageles city forum.
First some background. I live in Manila and make it to AC every couple of months. I have been going to AC off and on for the past 8 years. In Manila, I will typically barfine about 20 girls a month.
Anyway, my trip in August was typical - 3 cute girls i two days. My trip this Monday and Tuesday was FAR different from any other trip - 0 girls in two days.
I started out at 6:00 as I know that to get the cute girls you have to start early before someone else barfines them. I try to hit as many bars as possible before about 10:00, when the pickings get slim. The problem was that while I still found one or two cute girls in each bar, they were ALL cherry gilrs, and I mean every last one of them. I had hit about 25 bars by 10:00, but every cute girl was a cherry girl. These cherry girls were just like the girls I barfine every day in Manila, except they claim to be virgins and want about 50,000 pesos. In the past I have always come across many cherry girls, but never found anything close to ALL the girls being cherry girls.
The first issue is that if these girls really are virgins, why are only the cute ones virgins. What happens after they "lose their cherry"? Since most virgins that lose their virginity in a bar become bar girls, there should be some ex-cherry girls working (at least one!!) In Manila, I regularly find girls who really did just lost their cherry, and they are just cute as when they were vigins (I go to bars so often here that I find many real cherry girls, and find the same girls at a later date working in the same bar as regular bar girls - and I almost always barfine them). Therefore, it is pretty clear that most cherry girls in Angeles are not virgins.
The biggest issue is why this change was so sudden. I know it is not just my perception because in this trip I went with 3 other people - one who had been to AC before, and two for whom it was their first trip. Everyone said that ALL the cute girls were cherry girls, and had either no luck or very little luck finding girls (but all had no problem in Manila). One in the group ended up paying 50,000, as he found it was the only way to fuck a cute girl. Also, a friend of mine who lives out here went a couple of weeks ago and had the same problem. He ended up barfining 5 cherry girls in the hope that maybe one of them would fuck him, but ended up having to pay 20,000 just to get laid from a cherry girl.
I barfined a cherry girl the second night, as I figured it was better to at least try with someone cute, then to fuck some ugly *****. Now, I may have only had one real virgin in my life, but I have banged hundreds of bargirls - and this was just your typical bargirl. She had this whole routine in the bed "ohh, you are the first guy to ever touch my nipples - they are only for you", "I am not interested in losing my cherry for money, I want it to be with someone I can love, and I think that person is you". As we started to make out, she excused herself to the bathroom. She didn't use the toilet, but I heard her zip undo, some fiddling around, and then she came out (did she put something inside her?) We then continued to make out and she said, "I want you to be the first, but the mamasan would be very mad at her if she lost her cherry without some money". This only confirmed my suspicions, that every cute girl in town had figured it was much easier to pretend to be a virgin for 50,000, then to fuck some stranger every night for 600 (her cut of the barfine).
I don't know why this change happend so sudden, but it appears to have something to do with a term we use in business called critical mass. In this case, at a certain point such a large percentage of the girls have started playing the game, the rest fall. If they don't, they will just get banged at 6:01 every night for 600 pesos, while the competition is fucking maybe one guy every couple of months and making more money. Bars have no choice but to follow as because so many other bars are playing this game. If they don't, the cute girls will just go to a bar that lets them pretend to be cherry girls.
But the point is, right now, AC is dead. Unless you are on a budget and can only afford 1,200 Peso for a fuck, there is no reason to go there. If you can find 2,500 to 3,000, you will have much better quality in Manila.
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Cherry Girls
You are right, in my estimation only about 20% of the girls in AC / Manila who say they are Cherry Girls are really virgins. I met a girl still having her first day medical (not in uniform yet) in AC and she showed me her new work contract. It was clear from the way she behaved that she was a virgin. As suggested, it is easy to detect the other 80% who are playing a money scam or are menstruating or sore from the previous round and want ladies drinks without having to bar fine. In order to avoid this, before buying a ladies drink, ask the girl if she is a virgin (scam), if she bar fines (menstruation etc.) and if she has had a baby (stretch marks). Based on that decide whether to buy a ladies drink or tell her to go back on stage. You are the customer!
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another viewpoint
Well, Fastpiston has a rather cut throat style which may appeal to some. I don't like wasting time either, but I can see a few problems with his style.
1) You pull a girl off stage and then send her right back, I suspect a few ladies will be thinking "a__hole". No offense, if I feel crowded by girls I shoo them off and then I can see the "a__hole" look on their faces. Once that happens, it's best to just head off to another bar.
2) The drink is just for conversation and they don't really cost much. Often, you can get information about the other girls when chatting with the first one. You tell the first one, "...what's her name...she's cute" and the first one will usually be happy to introduce you to the second one. And they love to gossip, so you might find out something to warn you off the 2nd one. Of course you should take everything with a grain of salt.
3) If the cutest girl in the bar is a "virgin", so what? Having a stunning young lady sitting next to me in a bikini is worth the price of a ladies drink.
Well, that being said, I usually don't spend time in the more expensive places.
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Paranque bars?????
Can anybody give me the low down on Paranque city area action, specifically bars by the name of Brightest star and albertos lounge, or the Diamond supper club.
Thanx
Spamhog
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Hotels in LA CAfE area
Just wondering if anyone can recommend that are close to LA Cafe. If you can remember the price pls list it.
Also where is the best place to store your money while your away from the hotel? im always deeply concerned when i leave my money in the hotel room hidden in my locked suite case?
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[QUOTE=Mahal]Genuis8, thank you for the clarification, I will know better next time. Are the A-list clubs in the same price range as MU or still higher?
Mahal[/QUOTE]
The A-list are higher. Heartbeat (GRO=P8,000 minimum, Model=P11,000-13,000). Legende (P10,000). Pegasus (P8,000 P11,000 P13,000 depending on girl category). AirForce-1 same as Pegasus. So expect to spend P10-13,000 for the A-list. Is it worth it? Depends on the girl's beauty, her service, and how the experience was for you. The simple answer is: Its your feeling, if it was worth it.
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If you are in Manila, go to Air Force 1 KTV and you will like it. Better then what you get in Bangkok. Very nice setup, good and clean.
I was there last week, when to the 2nd floor where the main KTV hall is very big and nice setup. with stage for floor show and nice sitting around. Have your choice of girls for you to select (just like Bangkok style) and they were come and sit with you. The rest is up to you to fine out. If you like to have a quickie, can the Captian and he will arrange you to another KTV room where you can do your quickie there.
There are many big and small rooms sitting. Just like another KTV. You can do the same there.
If you want sometime better, go 1 floor down where the Business Class sittings. Nice massage rooms with bathroom attached. Have your choice of girls at this floor and get it going in the room.
Then, come the First Class. Same style with better rooms. Have your choice of rooms with 5 stars setup. You can have your choice of either Japanese rooms or 5 stars rooms. If you select the massage package, you just paid for the room and they provide you with 2 massage girls of you choice. Only 1500 peso for the room for one and a half hours. Then you have to tip the girls ( is up to you to give). If you want better service from the girls in your next visit, you have to tip them more.
I was very impressed with the overall setup and good service.
Enjoyed,
Malboy
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Bottoms in Burgos
I'm surprised there isn't much info in this forum about the bars in Burgos. I go to MNL every three months or so and after having tried several other areas and places, I now have become a "regular" of Bottoms. I usually go there on weekdays around 10-11 PM. Lots of girls and not too many guys. Most of the girls are very scantily dressed, often wearing only what the girls call "a tequila", which barely covers their pussy and nipples. The place usually has good music (at least I like it). It is very dark though, so you should be aware that the girls look somewhat less stunning in the light.
Anyway, my advice is to go to the smoking section on the right hand side where you can sit more discretely. If you are a regular, the girls will move you to the better seats as they become available.
I always call one of the mamasans and offer her a drink. I also offer the waitress a drink. Most of the time they buy me drinks in return. My favourite is mamasan Lala.
Most of the girls I met there had a very nice attitude. Of course they try to make you buy drinks, but it is not becoming too aggressive. A typical lady drink is 300P.
The girls try to find out what kind of guy you are, but if you are not shy they will grope and stroke you everywhere, even taking it out if you are in a darker place. You can usually touch them everywhere, except for their pussy (some girls allow you to feel it, but never go inside).
If you only want a BJ you can take them to the VIP room, but I do not advice that : you have to pay almost as much as the barfine and it is pretty uncomfortable. No FS allowed there either. They do BBBJ (although I only want CBJ - too scared).
Barfine was 3000P last time I went, but if you are a regular they can discount for you to 2500P. I usually pay the girl another 1500P for full night. I know, some of you will find that a lot, but I figure they need it more than me. And they're good, real GFE, at least those I had.
The girls sometimes leave for long holidays, but show up again after 3 months or so. I can definitely recommend Gaile and Erika (two petite girls) and Daniella.
If you go later in the evening, or if you have seen them before, you can also meet them after hours and forget about the barfine.
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Burgos is in Makati not Manila
Fredo,
The reason no mention of Burgos is because it is not in Manila, but in Makati. You will find plenty of information in the Makati section.
Regards,
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Things to do in Manila
For anyone new to Manila, and wants to do something other than whoring, you might take a taxi to the Aristocrat Restaurant. It sit right next to a colorfully lit fountain and an old church. If you go toward the water you will be at baywalk, right where the dinner boat ties up. (more about baywalk below). If you walk away from the water you will go to Remidios circle which has lots of restaurants and bars, including the overpriced Havana Cafe. Note: the Havana cafe which apparently has freelancers stolling about is in Makati.
There are also live houses and discos in the area. On weekends, there is a lot of people out and about.
**** sorry for the double post. This was on the Makati section by mistake and I thought it would be better to move it here where it belongs. Sorry for the double post.
About taxis...Always have small bills for these guys because they NEVER have change. I personally give a little extra tip for those who don't run women/children off the road nor blast their horn more than 40% of the time.
Copacapbana Hotel (in Pasay, near the airport). Porty, ask to see a room before you pay your money. Some have balconies. Some face the street (noisy) and some face the pool. BTW, how much are you paying? I think the rates are 1800 to 2500.
(Now there's an idea....second floor...facing the pool....you see a lady in the pool and you grab your towel...or binoculars)
As for aircon problem, always put the girl farthest from the air con. In the copa apartment rooms, you could open the door to the living/dining area to warm things up.
You asked about the waterfront. The copa is not near the Baywalk area which has open air bars, live bands/restaurants and lots of people strolling. Around Copa, there isn't much to see / do. If you walk several blocks (south? behind the hotel) you will find a very lively and colorful market - Baclaran Market. There is also a Catholic church there if you need to say some prayers.
X Man
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Wanted: Experienced Lesbian(s) -- for my wife
Travelling to Manila in mid-October. My wife wants to experiment. Top quality lez only. She would consider two.
Which clubs specialize in lezbo?
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I am thinking of heading to Manila between Christmas and New Years. I am an experienced punter who owes a huge debt to everyone who contributes to this board and of course, Jackson.
My question is, since the Phillipines is predominantly Catholic, is everything open (especially the bars and LA Cafe) between Christmas and New Years? Is the selection still good? Otherwise I'll head somewhere else and try Manila a few months later.
Thanks!
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Very Slow
MrK,
I was there a few years back over the holidays and it was very quiet as most girls go to there province for the holidays. If possible, I would try to change your vacation date, or just schedule closer to New Years. Just my opinion.
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Ermita Angel
I have been scouting around Ermita for the last few days. LA Cafe is as claustrophobic as ever: lots of young cuties, old hags and Third World mongers. Domino passed but only went in to check out the shit.
Speaking of shit: lots of toothless wonders in Mabini St and some of the world's ungliest tvs as well. Some young babe asked me for 2000 pesos. Domino likes jokes.
Domino got talking to a few babes outside a Japanese karaoke dive. Three TVs, one of whom was very passable, asked me if I knew anyone interested in them. I was going to give the iball's details but passed.
The good news I gave a beauty $5 US for nothing. (this is an old Domino gambit). She is an angel and, best of all, she speaks no English. I met her after work at 3 am the first night and we have been together ever since. The karaoke babes are interesting as they work long hours, 7-3 pm, for 150 pesos a day. This means they have no time to fuck around and need the help of a good man, someone like
John T Domino
Gotta run as my trophy fuck and I are off shopping;)
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Something for nothing
Yea Domino,
"after work at 3am"
So, are you a taxi driver?
X man
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Domino Delivers Pizzas
But sometimes he eats in. Like today. The angel is an angel and fucks like one too. She does not come but just wers Domino down by a fuck of attrition. The Japanese owned karaoke bar charges Japs 800 pesos entry, all others 300 pesos. Domino shops local so no need for a taxi, just a 10 second stroll.
Today, he brought Angel Big Tits shoping and the cousin from hell tagged along. We went to see Sky High, R rated, funny but her cousin from hell (CIH) guffawed all the way through. Angel was a shy lady in public (just as Domino likes them) but he felt like beating up her cousin. Angel decided we should buy her a t shirt so we went into Robinsons but were ambushed at the top of the stairs by 2 ladyboys they work with (the wonders of texting). I would only know #2 as a ladyboy because she told me and the same goes for a third who was with them last night. Anyway, Ladyboy #1, Mike Tyson in drag,decides Domino should buy Angel jeans as well, Angel disappears into the changing room and emerges 30 minutes later with a mountan of clothes Domino buys. When paying, he notes there is a full refund if returned within 7 days. The 2 ladyboys disappear, fearing the wrath of Domino. I offer CIH 600 pesos to fuck off but she tags along to my bedroom. I half fuck angel in front of CIH who is texting all and sundry and interfering with my style. I pay her 600 pesos to fuck off for two hous. She goes and emerges in exactly 120 minutes, gving Domino time for 3 pops. Or rather the bellboy emerges to say there is a crazy, over fed lady waiting to see him. CIH marchs in and orders all of us out. Domino slips Angel 2000 psos and ruminates on an expensive but happy day.
X-Man: we gota kill these fucking cousins. Worse thing was I had set up a 500 peso double bonk but passed it for 3000 pesos worth of Negros Angel and CIH.
Opposite LA Cafe, a few middle aged ladies offered Domino a young skank for 1000 pesos. Here Domino found his own angel but still got stuck with a mamasan. There is no justice.
I told Angel I would brign her to Begros so I can meet the fsmily. She has 3 good looking sisters. An Domino believes in family values.
Moral: watch out for the family. The Mafia is not the only instance where it has a downside. As they disappeared in the jeepney, Domino watched them check th merchandise. Later, they wave. Which was kind of them.
Lots of cute ladies in the Inernet shop. The one beside me is worth a sho bu she has one fat fuck and one young stud on yahoo.This place is candy heaven, once one stay away from LA Cafe and shops local.
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Friends, Cousins & Other Relations
Domino,
It looks like the ladyboys made quite a sales commission on your dime. Having been in similar situations where skanks have tried to steer me into shopping boutiques and grocery stores I have developed several defense mechanisms.
I remember warily eyeing a skank as she handled an expensive pair of shoes in a boutique. She then asked if Chocha Monger was going to purchase them for her. I gave her a stern look and then informed her that Chocha suffered from severe arthritis in the hands from working in the bitter cold of the North American winters making it extremely difficult for him to reach his wallet. The only remedy for this condition was copious amounts of fucking to drain the bad humors and loosen the fingers. Since she hadn't performed the needed therapy I was powerless to help her. Shortly there after I ran that particular skank off.
I find women who have the propensity to pick up everything in stores and utter, "Buy me!" to be very annoying. Ditto for women who go to restaurants and order the most expensive thing on the menu plus a plate to go.
Chocha Monger also dislikes cousins or friends who tag along playing the role of mamasan, and will fuck in their presence without giving into blackmail in order for them to leave. I find suggesting a threesome will usually be enough to send the "cousin" heading for the door since the "girlfriend" usually is not willing to share what she thinks is her ticket back to Candyland. Hinting to the "girlfriend" that I am willing to fuck her female friends or relatives goes a long way to discouraging her from bringing along freeloaders.
It never fails to amuse me how friends, cousins and even sisters would quickly step up to replace a girl that I am done with. It is as though they were waiting their turn all along. One can fuck an entire family or neighborhood in this manner.
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bang for buck$$$ ?
what is the best city in asia for bang for your buck pussy?
please give your opinion in u.S. dollars.these quotes should be inclusive , bar fine and girl.
bangkok 25 dollars st
50-75 dollars lt
manilla?
jakarta?
singapore?
angeles city?
pattaya?
etc.?
happy safe pooning
hard cocks and tight pussy
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Malling
The cousin, who is 20 and eveloping into a granma san already suggested we go mauling, or malling if you prefer. The problem with young women is that is all they like. I also got done for a 660 pesos pizza (not a Dominos) but I was happy with what I got and what I will. She is really pretty, has the best eyelashes I have ever seen 9and knows how to use them). She has a perfect body and is shy and demure.
I look at all these trials as cheap learning experiences. I actually like young, pretty, virginal looking women (and hacked out skanks too). I propose marriage a lot, or suggrst it and ask waht the deal is. My side is simple: pay check and so is theirs: glorified maid. (wife, legitimized or not).
I fveel like God after He made the world. "And God saw that is was good".
So did Domino who doesn't sweat the small stuff either:)
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Would have to say...TIE
[QUOTE=Red Cork]what is the best city in asia for bang for your buck pussy?
please give your opinion in u.S. dollars.these quotes should be inclusive , bar fine and girl.
bangkok 25 dollars st
50-75 dollars lt
manilla?
jakarta?
singapore?
angeles city?
pattaya?
etc.?
happy safe pooning
hard cocks and tight pussy[/QUOTE]Angeles City and Pattaya will cost you about the same. Now if you want a nipple you can do what ever you want, Angeles City, and if you want a tiny lady then go for Pattaya.
Each of us have different taste but hope this will help, Personally I like Pattaya more, but nothing wrong with doing the women in Angles City and since you said for the buck, BOTH
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Nice hotel
Hi all.
A nice hotel is hotel Frendy on Mabini street.
The price is low, 1300Php including breakfast.
The rooms are clean and the AC is good.
Have stayed there before and will stay there for 2 weeks in November also, hope it is still great.
Is there anyone that know a good MP on Mabini street or close to it?
Will be back with reports on LA Café and all the other places me and my pal will visit later on.
I am pretty sure we will leave the real low-life places alone, like Rizal Park. It´s extremely cheap...but also like playing russian roulette ;), and the deseases is by far the least danger in that area!
Hope Manila is like it used to be, once went to a BJ-bar that offered BJ by the table, but this was back in early 90:s. Anyone know about such a bar nowadays?
2Fat2Fly
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Still some BJ bars in Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Big Swede69]
Hope Manila is like it used to be, once went to a BJ-bar that offered BJ by the table, but this was back in early 90:s. Anyone know about such a bar nowadays?
2Fat2Fly[/QUOTE]
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First time visiting MNL
Hey,
I'm an experienced traveller, but Manila newbie, coming to MNL on 26/9 and leaving 28/9.
I just spent an hour reading back on all the posts and it's pretty confusing - Makati, Angeles City, EDSA, L.A. Cafe, Ermita, Marbini, Burgos, etc.
Any tips on where to begin for a 1st time visitor with only 2 nights in town? Best for freebies? Best for P4P?
I'll probably stay at the Intercontinental on Ayala Ave., Makati City.How is that location for proximity to hobby sites?
I appreciate any help offered either on the forum or on PM. As always I'm happy to help if you're looking for tips re US, UK, France, Germany, Spain, China, Bangkok, Helsinki, or Amsterdam.
I'm also happy to run in a herd if any MNL experts want to drag along a newbie. First one's ( that's a beer, not a broad) on me.
Thanks :)
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Try spending the first part of your first night and short time a girl from either the Domestic Entertainment center (DEC) or EDSA. They are about a 15 minute cab ride from each other. Then go back and pick a girl from a Makati (P Burgous) bar. Try Flamingo or Bandido's best looking girls and lowest bar fine ($1,900 pisos). Then spend your second night where you had the best luck and prospects from the previous night. I call it "the taste of Manila" option
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Hi,
If you are staying at the Intercont you can go to Greenbelt3 and Hardrock Cafe all walking distance.
L.A. Cafe about 100peso taxi ride (maybe 15mins) subject to traffic.
Hope this helps
Peter
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[QUOTE=Iseeu]Hey,
I'm an experienced traveller, but Manila newbie, coming to MNL on 26/9 and leaving 28/9.
I just spent an hour reading back on all the posts and it's pretty confusing - Makati, Angeles City, EDSA, L.A. Cafe, Ermita, Marbini, Burgos, etc.
Any tips on where to begin for a 1st time visitor with only 2 nights in town? Best for freebies? Best for P4P?FOR A NEWBIE BURGOS STREET ABOUT 10 MINUTES CAB RIDE FROM THE INTERCON OR ABOUT 15 MINUTES DOWN THE ROAD FROM THE EDSA COMPLEX.LA CAFE IS ABOUT 30 MINUTES AWAY,IT IS LOCATED IN MABINI ANGELES CITY IS ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF DRIVE AWAY FROM MAKATI
I'll probably stay at the Intercontinental on Ayala Ave., Makati City.How is that location for proximity to hobby sites? DID THAT
I appreciate any help offered either on the forum or on PM. As always I'm happy to help if you're looking for tips re US, UK, France, Germany, Spain, China, Bangkok, Helsinki, or Amsterdam.
I'm also happy to run in a herd if any MNL experts want to drag along a newbie. First one's ( that's a beer, not a broad) on me.
Thanks :)[/QUOTE]
WISH I COULD BUT WILL BE IN MALAYSIA HOPE THIS HELPS
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Manila
I have been a lot of time in the past to Manila but it already took a while (almost 5 years now) never been there. I wonder if the old hang out I have been before still there like those *****s house in China Town (mostly students and virgin gave their first time to these stunners working here) , the Maalikaya Massage Parlors in Quezon city and also few establishment in 2nd avenue calookan and also in Monumento Central and lastly those freelancer in Harrizon Plaza. so please let me know if these are still the hang out for mongering brothers. I plan to visit Manila this december and I hope within 2 weeks time I wanted to enjoy the best of my trip to Asia. Please advise and thanks!
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for Iseeu
Just to sum up what Cebu Local has already told you...
...you can probably go to all the places mentioned, although I wouldn't bother with AC. Save it for a longer trip. With only two days, I wouldn't bother with freebies either.
If I had only two nights and was staying in Makati, this is what I would probably do:
Start in the late afternoon and go to LA cafe. From there you can bar hop to some other places in the area. You can also do some shopping and/or flirting at Robinsons. There are many money changers in the area. I also like the middlle eastern restaurant which is just a stone's throw from LA cafe (going away from the bay....I don't remember the name).
If you really want to chat up some regular girls and try your luck, go to the waterfront, called Baywalk. This is just a couple blocks from LA cafe, but be careful crossing Roxas. There are plenty of outdoor places to stop to eat or drink. Lots of people there, especially on the weekends. If you turn left and walk (south?) you will eventually come to the dinner cruise ferry and if you look back across Roxas you will see a fountain. Again, lots of people around. If you walk past the fountain and past the church you will end up at Remidios circle. Lots of restaurants, clubs, dance places. Most customers are Filipino, probably middle class or above. I'm sure there are freelancers there, but I was always accompanied when I went there.
If you haven't found what you wanted by 8 or 9pm, go to the gogo places. EDSA in Pasay or Burgos in Makati, both of which have serveral bars and dozens (hundreds?) of women ready and willing. I prefer EDSA. At Burgos, you will find more stunners, more bars and higher prices.
X Man
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No one wants a beer?
xMan, Cebbo loc, vague, emale,
Thanks for the tips and info. To sum up - Baywalk, Hard Rock, Robinson's for freebies. EDSA, Burgos, LA Cafe for P4P. I'll check out the scene and report back if I find gold.
No one wants a free beer? ;)
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Burgos was a bummer...
I was back in Makati for a night last week, and just for the hell of it, and because I had not been there in about 2 years, went to Burgos St. with a friend. It was every bit the rip off thast I remembered. Bar fines at p3,000, plus extra for the girls. Expensive ladies drinks, aggressive mamasans, and corlorful touts on the sidewalks. I much prefer EDSA. I think (at least last week) the girls are as pretty, the pressure much more subdued, and the prices about 1/3 those of Burgos.
If I only had a couple of nights, and I was new to the area, I'd follow X's advice and hit LA Cafe reasonably early, try the other bars in Ermita and then, if I struck out, would head to EDSA about 11.
:D
GE
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First time in Manila...
First off you are only spending two days there so I don't think the freebie option is viable. That usually happens after you have seen a girl more than a few days if she is a regular girl. Girls looking to make money are not going to give you a freebie the first time out in Manila. Freebies for me have been much more common in Angeles where a girl texts about coming over and swimming in the pool. Also you are in Manila on a Monday and Tuesday night which tend to be quite nights. Many girls in Makati have Monday as their off night. I have seen that many times as I usually fly out on a Tuesday and so I am in Makati on a Monday night.
I can also tell you that the pickings at LA Cafe on a Monday are also slim to ugh! I have never picked up any girl there that came even close to be decent looking on a Monday and I am not prepared to wait till 3:00 am when some girls from EDSA start to show up. I prefer cute girls versus stunners and both of those types are in short supply at LA Cafe.
So what would I do if I stayed in Makati. During the day I would check out Greenbelt for one. I would also stop in some of the internet cafes around Burgos where the girls hang out during the day. If I saw a cafe with some girls in it then I would go in and pick a computer close to some of them. Start playing on the internet and make eye contact with anyone that catches your fancy. During the working day trying to take a taxi out of Makati to Ermita is a time consuming exercise due to traffic.
That night I would definitely hit three bars on Burgos: Wild West, Bandidos and Flamingo all owned by the same guy. No pressure from the girls to buy drinks and a barfine much less than the other places. I have always had great success with girls from these three clubs. Rouges might be another place but that would be about it. A shame since I spent tons of time in Bottoms, Ivory, Ritzy's and the place across from Jools back in 1994-1996. Little pressure and great gfe girls. Oh well, no more.
On another night you could grab a taxi and tell the driver you want to go to EDSA & Harrison. That is the street corner that the EDSA Complex is on. Not every cab driver knows EDSA Complex by name but they all know the intersection. Again walk in, no cameras allowed here, and browse as the crowd will be very very light since it is early in the week. Generally no pressure here in any of the bars. Firehouse used to be my favorite, especially when Don managed it, but now I don't spend as much time here. Always feel like I have a hundred eyes on me and I do when I look behind me. Plus that have a lot of the dreaded Gro's who just bug the hell out of me. I usually hit PitStop and Casino since My Fair has moved out.
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Hot Manila Nights Report
Here's my first post to thank everyone for all your info over the years...
I would like to also recommend X's advice. I've been in Makati/Manila for some time over the years, tried just about everything now at least once.
I've had good and bad experiences everywhere from the cheapy sauna to First Class dual at Air Force One, but I enjoy the following the most after a day at work:
5:45 pm:
Grab a cab. Tell him to go to Ambassador Hotel on Mabini St. While in the cab, send some text messages to your other girl friends to see what they are doing tonight. Arrive on Mabini St. (25 minutes/100 pesos from Makati). Change some currency if I must at one of dozens of currency changers (55.90/USD). Walk north on the street and look at the craft stores. Stop at the really old church and say a few prayers. Fight off a few touts selling watches, pearls, and viagra. Allow one tout to sell you a bottle of men's cologne for 300 pesos. (Good with the girls, "How do you like the smell of that?", as she gets close to smell it, and you her) Pass the new Hyatt with the Casino. Find your way to L.A. Cafe one block west from Mabini. (towards the water) Grab something to eat and a bottle of San Miguel. Pick out an attractive girl and her friend and buy some drinks. A little bit of heavy eye contact and they'll approach you. (Last night had a real beauty/sweety that was so good and attentive) Go to the washroom and check your text messages while you get a massage for 100 pesos. Come back finish your dinner. Ask her if she wants to come and stay with you tonight. Don't discuss money. (1500 st/2500 lt)
7:45 pm:
Leave with girl or on your own. Walk to BayWalk and sit down at a cafe overlooking the water. Buy a drink or two and maybe dessert. (Sharing has less calories) Watch some entertainment, singers, and dancers. Talk with lots of guys and girls around and have a great time. Discuss going dancing later that night at one of the discos in Remedios Circle. Buy a long-stem rose for someone special from a 5 year old tout. (10 pesos)
9:00 pm:
(Optional) Go to Hyatt Casino and play a few hands of blackjack and get your girl to put some money (200 pesos) on a spin in roulette. If you win or lose, be sweet, and you win.
9:30 pm:
(Optional) Walk south down BayWalk to the water fountain in front of that old church and consider if your prayers came true. Walk east past the old church, past Mabini, to Remedios Circle and go to a club for some dancing and socializing. Perhaps meet some other friends here or chat up with anyone and everyone. Some of these normal girls are just about perfect and make for long term possibilities (trip to Boracay anyone?)
10:45 pm:
(Optional Option 1) If you haven't met an irresistable Filipina by now, take a cab to Edsa Entertainment Complex. (25 minutes/100 pesos) Do a quick trip into each bar there are several; tell the Mamasan that you are looking for your guy friend and he might be here. If you see some bikini clad girls that catch your eye, stay. Buy a beer (120 pesos) Tell the girls that come and sit next to you that you need help to pick the right girl. (They usually won't be the best ones, the best are on stage) Tip the Mamasan and ask for service recommendation, being careful not to bar fine the Mamasan. Pick the best to sit next to you. Talk to her a little bit and see if she's participative. If you like her, buy her a lady drink. (325 pesos) Get your picture taken with her. (100 pesos) If you continue to like her, bar fine her. (1000 pesos) (+1500st/3000lt)
(Optional Option 2) Go to Havana Cafe at Greenbelt Mall in Makati. Soak in the atmosphere, order a margarita (130 pesos), and establish eye contact with the most attractive girl you see. Dance with her to the latin beats. Discuss plans for the rest of the evening.
11:45 pm:
(Optional) You've either picked a busy night or you are too picky for your stature. Off to P. Burgos Street. I prefer Foxy's over all the others. It is huge inside and comfy. Order a rum and coke for sipping. (150 pesos). Soak in the attention but fight off the groping if you want. Tip those that you accept massage/grope from. (50 pesos) Make it clear that you need help to pick the right girl, and you will buy that girl some lady drinks. Pick a stunner and ask her to sit next to you. Tell the Mamasan that you are really thinking of barfine, so would she deduct any lady's drink you buy now from the barfine? (equivalent of 10 ladies drinks). If the answer is yes, buy your new sweetie a ladies drink. Feel free to do lots of kissing and take her temperature. (Figuratively of course) If you are in love now, barfine her quickly and get home. (3000 pesos including that first lady drink) (+1500st/3000lt)
Another hot Manila night. Enjoy!
Travel Lots
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Reliable Fun at LA Cafe
Have been to LA Cafe on four trips in the past couple months. Just here now and thought to report from the ground. Always reliable fun at LA Cafe, although I agree with the previous posts that Mon-Tue are relatively sparse. I tend to skew my visits towards the latter part of the week, where the pussy factory is working overtime.
With the increase of Japanese and Korean clientele, the number of girls who are targeting these guys exclusively has increased. These girls used to buzz mainly in back bar area on the second floor, but now there are a bunch of them near the entrance as well as the downstairs back area. The mamasans work hard to pimp these girls and buzz like flies around the JP/KR guys. More power to 'em, but I wish these guys didn't spoil the girls so quickly... one cutie told me she gets P3,000 short time every time, which is still a bargain converted to Japanese yen, but dammed if I am going to pay that.
My preference is for the second floor. It's only P100-200 entrance and often there is a halfways decent band. I like to play a bit of pool at the table in the back and walk around in between games. There are lots of real cuties floating around here, but they tend to be regulars. My conquest for this visit centered around a girl named Myline who sits with friends in the corner opposite the steps. Perfect little body - 4'11", compact, sweet little tits and ass, perfect light skin and a darling smile. We always have a good time flirting at the pool table and she always wants to go back, but has always refused flat my condition to put her on film. My charms finally broke her down on this visit and I got her cute little ass on video in a fuck film extravaganza last night. Plenty of guys have had her, but I was pleased to be the first to get her on DV. I am hoping the investment will pay off in a domino effect as I really want to do her sweet friend Janet, who has the sweetest little ass package but has also refused video. Once one has done it, I hope the others will follow suit!
I have also noticed a pickup of FL action at the nearby Robinson's. I usually pick up dinner there and have noticed the increase in girls who are sitting at coffee shops discreetly waving me over or girls who just plain walk up to me. If I had the temprement and time for this mode of mongering, I am sure there is plenty more action to be had by just strolling around.
Enjoy, AR+
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Chaos
Gents,
Is Chaos still open? I visited the club almost two years ago and found the place rather pleasant. The girls were decent and the atmosphere was relaxed.
Any news?
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[QUOTE=Iseeu]Hey,
I'm an experienced traveller, but Manila newbie, coming to MNL on 26/9 and leaving 28/9.
I just spent an hour reading back on all the posts and it's pretty confusing - Makati, Angeles City, EDSA, L.A. Cafe, Ermita, Marbini, Burgos, etc.
Any tips on where to begin for a 1st time visitor with only 2 nights in town? Best for freebies? Best for P4P?[/QUOTE]If you have only two nights and you want to be sure to score, and have enough cash, I think Burgos is definitely your best bet. You can be in and out of there with a very cute girl in less than an hour if you like. Bottoms is my favourite and I posted a review in the Makati section. Barfine is 3000P indeed but ladydrinks can be deducted, better price for good customers like me, too.
In the better bars in Burgos the girls also get tested very regularly, which is definitely not the case with the girls in LA cafe.
If you are around a little longer, or come near the end of a shift in Bottoms,it is also possible to get a girls mobile number and meet her outside. They are not allowed to do that so you need to be careful.
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[QUOTE=Macho Dik] I wonder if the old hang out I have been before still there like those *****s house in China Town (mostly students and virgin gave their first time to these stunners working here) , the Maalikaya Massage Parlors in Quezon city and also few establishment in 2nd avenue calookan and also in Monumento Central and lastly those freelancer in Harrizon Plaza. so please let me know if these are still the hang out for mongering brothers. [/QUOTE]
Times have certainly changed. The ***** houses in china town are filled with over 25 yr olds; Maalikaya is second rate to Sylvanus, Goodlife and Wildernes in Quezon - but Paranaque is where to go now anyway, either Airforce One or Starfleet; And Harrison Plaza truly sucks - Maybe 6 or 7 young but typically fat or ugly *****s. Read some of the recent posts of where to go TODAY.
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Tooch
I was in town in February. Chaos was closed at that time. Looked long term. Too bad, I lked it too.
Iseeu,
I would have to (respectfully) disagree with Fredo24 about P. Burgos for the first timer. The ladydrink hustle can be overwhelming. You have to be almost rude to not be surronded by thirsty girls. I know, that doesn't sound like a bad thing on the surface, but it gets old. It's also more expensive than it should be. The girls are not that much prettier than the girls elsewhere. Might be your cup of tea if you're on an expense account. But I would suggest EDSA for the first timer. Several bars under one roof. Nice to walk around sampling. You will, of course, be hustled for ladysdrink here as well, but not with the same intensity.
IMHO
FD
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[QUOTE=Iseeu]Hey,
I'm an experienced traveller, but Manila newbie, coming to MNL on 26/9 and leaving 28/9.
I just spent an hour reading back on all the posts and it's pretty confusing - Makati, Angeles City, EDSA, L.A. Cafe, Ermita, Marbini, Burgos, etc.
Any tips on where to begin for a 1st time visitor with only 2 nights in town? Best for freebies? Best for P4P?
I'm also happy to run in a herd if any MNL experts want to drag along a newbie. First one's ( that's a beer, not a broad) on me.
Thanks :)[/QUOTE]
I think Your post has been well answered already. The only thing I would add to some of the proposed schedules is to add Butterfly bar to your itinerary. It is a 2 minute walk from LA Cafe, right next to Amazonia Bar. It is the only gogo bar in the city of Manila, so you walk to it from LA Cafe instead of taking a cab to EDSA or Burgos. I was there a couple of days ago and had a great barfine from the place, and there were a couple of other cuties that I noticed there as well - and I tend to be rather picky since I live out here. The barfine is the unusual amount of 1,600 Pesos, with a standard 1,500 for the girl short time, negotiable overnight. Also, Visions bar on Roxas, near the corner of Buendia (all cab drivers know that corner), is worth a look if you have some extra time.
I live in Ritz Towers, opposite the Intercon, and I can see into every unit there with one of my telescopes so leave the curtains open and I'll post my opinion of your girl. I could take you around if you want, but you'ld have to stop by with a good story for my girl first (business associate from out of town?). PM me if you want.
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Trip report
Stayed at lotus garden. nice hotel. No problem bringing in girls.
LA cafe is right around the corner about walking distance. Very safe area anytime of day or night. LA cafe is open 24 hours.
Generally in the daytime mostly skanks hang around. In the evening the place picks up. Hit and miss. You may get lucky to find good looking ones. I looked around for 2 hours before I found a solid 8 in my opinion. They charge between 100 to 150 pesos depending on the band to go upstairs. It does not matter if you go upstairs or downstairs , the choice is not much different.
I picked three different girls for long time. They were real sweathearts. Really gave me good service. 2000 pesos for LT. we also had breakfast and two of them I took to dinner.
LA cafe needs some serious repairs. I am sure with the money they are making they can afford to do it. But seriously think of of making a trip to Angeles City. The choice,atmosphere,bars and shows much better. I really had a better time in Angeles City.
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MNL visit cancelled
Wow, i am overwhlemed by the amount of info-thanks guys, all of you. Unfortunately I have to close a deal in taipei, so I'm staying an extra 24 hours here before heading to SIN and have to cancel the MNL leg.
But' I've committed it all to memory and will be able to monger myself into a stupor when i finally get there.
Thanks again, and remember to demand that I reciprocate if you happen to bounce into my areas of expertise. Will be my honor and pleasure to help you guys. A monger in need is never alone for long...
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Hi everyone,
OK basially just go to LA Cafe. You cant miss!!! Watchout for Mammasan she has some beauties but expensive.
If you are butt ugly with a 1" cock you still would get a root from here.
My mate and I took home 5 girls, $15 US each (no bullshit and paid at the end of the day) all night, the next day. Needless to say I had 3. All 24 yrs or less, damn good looking, sexy, amazing bodies in a king sized bed, couch, stool, shower. I was in heaven.
My other mate had the upstairs (Holiday Inn, Francisco Suite) was busy with Emily and Melanie. Needless to say no complaints.
Guys just watchout though for the extra unexpected return package. Tric, yes an STD, and if you are married like I am. It will cause a real problem back home!
Go for it guys, theres only one life and you are a long time dead.
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Here in Manila
Fellas,
I just got here in Manila today . I need some recommendations and advise for some bars and club and massage parlors. This is my 1st time here but staying 4 weeks.. SO looking forward to good experience in Manila with your help.
Thanks
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hotels around Manila
I am wondering about hotels around the area they seem high priced. Is there any good quality hotels around the area at a good price. What bordering city has better rates than Manila. I would like to stay just outside the city if possable. I do not need a 4 star hotel but would like to be comfortable.
Thanks fellas, keep up the good work here.
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Hotels manila !
[quote=bcarting1]i am wondering about hotels around the area they seem high priced. is there any good quality hotels around the area at a good price. what bordering city has better rates than manila. i would like to stay just outside the city if possable. i do not need a 4 star hotel but would like to be comfortable.
well after months of reading and searching for hotels, as i will be in manila on the 12th of october, i've read many reports on hotels here then search many hotel sites. this is the one i have deceided on its called the pearl manila hotel.
read all the reveiws of most hotels and for price and location i chose this one. now if you book on line with agents you might get better price tahn the hotels offering. but you need the name of hotel to do the search on the hotel booking sites.
here is the direct link of the hotel. deceide for your self !
[url]http://www.pearlmanila.com/rates.htm[/url]
speedyd
hey you want to catch up for a drink around the 13th of october in manila !!
let me know okay !
ant one else thats in manila or makati around that time too. lets catch up and drink and chat about this great board and the help it gives guys !
thanks
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[QUOTE=Bcarting1]I am wondering about hotels around the area they seem high priced. Is there any good quality hotels around the area at a good price. What bordering city has better rates than Manila. I would like to stay just outside the city if possable. I do not need a 4 star hotel but would like to be comfortable.
Thanks fellas, keep up the good work here.[/QUOTE]Always stay at the Executive Plaza Hotel on Mabini and is only 1 block from Robinson's. Using Asia Travel you can get somewhere around 1700-1800 pesos. If you book through someone like Action Travel then you can get 1500 pesos max. The difference is with or without breakfast. The hotel is more than adequate and quite nice. Most all I know use that one for their short stays in Manila before heading up to Angeles. I'm scheduled for it on the 18th and 19th.
1500 pesos = $27 approx.
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Bcarting1;
I stayed at Orchid Garden Suites in Malate in 2003, and here is the quote I received from the hotel:
Greetings from Orchid Garden Suites Manila!!!
In connection with your upcoming visit here in Manila on May 1 - 4, 2003, we are pleased to offer our 2003 promo of $ 45.00 net for the Superior Room (Single or Twin Occupancy). The rate includes daily Set Breakfast. We also charge P 550.00 net for transfers from the airport going to the hotel. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to call me at 632-5239870.
The hotel is close to the Harrison Plaza Mall, Short ride to LA Cafe, Remedios Circle, EDSA Entertainment Complex. I have stayed there twice, and was upgraded both times to junior suites. The breakfast is only a standard continental, not buffet. You can email them for update: [email]orchid@mydestiny.net[/email]
I also have a link to another hotel in Malate which is recommended by some friends of mine with reasonable prices (not stayed there myself):
[url]http://www.mpensionne.com.ph/accommodations/roomrates.htm[/url]
You can also check out [url]www.asiatravel.com[/url] for info on hotels in the Metro-Manila.
Have fun!
[QUOTE=Bcarting1]I am wondering about hotels around the area they seem high priced. Is there any good quality hotels around the area at a good price. What bordering city has better rates than Manila. I would like to stay just outside the city if possable. I do not need a 4 star hotel but would like to be comfortable.
Thanks fellas, keep up the good work here.[/QUOTE]
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Back at the LA Pussy Factory
Another fun-filled visit to LA Cafe this week. Had four nights to enjoy the action - Tuesday to Friday nights. The pussy factory was running extra shifts - sweet girls seemed to be everywhere and I felt like a kid in a candy store.
Tuesday night was a continuation of my previous visit. Slow night for fresh talent. Wanted to take home a friend of one of the girls I took last time, but she ended up ditching me for some fossil while I was playing pool. Started hitting on two other girls in the group - one of which was a real 19yo cutie. Ended up very late, as it took me 2 hours (and two walkaways) to break them down to do video. (The girls in this group are very difficult to coax into video, but I am determined to collect the entire set.) Finally head back a 3.30am! The girls did tag team - one stayed in the bathroom while I had the other, so it wasn't the 3P fantasy I had envisioned. The first girl Giselle was really passionate, but I just spent a while on her. Tagged for the 19yo cutie Jinnalyn, who had a sweet body and a lovely pink shaved beaver with large pussy lips. Service was below par, like most cuties. Finished with a blast over her pussy. Promised myself I would try the first one again for GFE (see below).
Wednesday bagged a sweet nursing student named Mia. Tight body, shaved pussy and a rock hard ass. Very accommodating and passionate - loved to pose for the camera. I finished with a huge facial. Promised to bring her nurse uniform for the next time we meet up. Fantasy time!
Thursday linked up with a bi-sexual girl that I had taken before. She was with two friends, one of which I had also taken before. So I suggested to my bi-sex girl that we take the new girl home for some fun, but only if they would play together. We had a great time - her friend had a perfect body - but the friend was a bit shy to accept the lez action. She pleaded that she was ticklish when the bi-girl started to lick her pussy, but had no problem when I did it. Needs more training and development. The bi-girl was very keen to play camerawoman, so I am looking forward to processing the video.
Friday was the mother lode. Wanted a quick pickup as I was tired and catching an early flight the next morning. Went for the GFE girl from Tueday night and was totally satisfied. Without her friend around, she was totally uninhibited. Passionate kissing. Unusual blow job... she would go down on me until she gagged, recover herself and go for more like she was desperate for cock. Suck. Gag. Repeat. Her pussy was tight and wet and she loved doggy style. The best part of the night was taking her anal virginity. After testing her ass with my finger and finding no resistance, I lubed up and poked my cockhead into her butthole. Oh so tight as she moaned "saket saket saket." It hurts. Ended up giving her a memorable ass pounding from four positions - very high performance. Finished with a monster facial. I couldn't have been happier!
Thank God for LA Cafe. Now recovering in sexual intensive care for the weekend. Enjoy, AR+
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Great Post Asian Rain !
[QUOTE=Asian Rain]Another fun-filled visit to LA Cafe this week. Had four nights to enjoy the action - Tuesday to Friday nights. The pussy factory was running extra shifts - sweet girls seemed to be everywhere and I felt like a kid in a candy store.
Just wanted to know what the damage was !! peso as I will be there on the 12th or should i say 1 am 13th october !
keep the post coming . thanks
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Damage
[QUOTE=Porty]Just wanted to know what the damage was !! peso[/QUOTE]
In order from the previous post: Tuesday - 1000p/girl plus 100p for taxi. Wednesday - 1200p. Thursday - 1200p/girl plus 100p taxi. Friday - 1200p. All girls taken ST. Superb value for money... AR+
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Harrizons Plaza
Can anyone tells me if the Harrizon Plaza still the place for picking up freelancers? what will be the damage for ST / LT.
Also where can I find a massage parlors for double girls services. Its been a very long time that I didn't. visit Manila and planned to be there this december.
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Hotel Info
Guy's,
Thanks for all the good info on the hotels, I'll be there on Oct. 11 but not sure where I'm staying yet waitting for confirm from asiarooms. I will be in Manila for three or four days no set plans yet so if anyone wants to get together for a couple of beers PM me and once I my new sims card I'll PM you with my number.
In any event, happy mongering.
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bombay, best bang for buck
3.5 dollars for short time
18 dollars for full night
quality varies
[QUOTE=Red Cork]what is the best city in asia for bang for your buck pussy?
please give your opinion in u.S. dollars.these quotes should be inclusive , bar fine and girl.
bangkok 25 dollars st
50-75 dollars lt
manilla?
jakarta?
singapore?
angeles city?
pattaya?
etc.?
happy safe pooning
hard cocks and tight pussy[/QUOTE]
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Quick update
Foxys has closed again. Too bad, as it was one of the only really large bars in the area. Being a 30 second walk from Burgoss was too far for most mongers to walk I guess.
The new Bellagio hotel on Burgoss (next to Mirrors bar) has the nicest short time rooms in the area. Expensive at 1,500 pesos, but it beats having to get an overnight room for 2,000 plus when you want a nice room, and the 1,200 filling station is almost always full. The rooms are all themed. I recommend the Chinese room. Small, but very nice.
Also, I found the quality of LA Cafe to have picked up as of late. I was surprised that I found several girls that I considered attractive in my couple of recent visits. The girl I had yesterday from there had maybe one of best bodies I have ever had - absolutely flawless. And her pussy was so tight that it took a lot of effort to get it in, even though she was quite wet. I could barely squeeze my finger in.
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Hey LTL,
Where in Bombay would you find so cheap. Give some ideas except kamathipura.
Charlie
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Great Stuff AsianRain
Like your style man. Reading your post makes me miss the PI. The PI Threeway is all too common: one Must EXPLICITLY clarify that all three of you will get busy with each other AT SAME TIME (or expect one to wait in the CR (bathroom) while you do the other one). SO typical.
Re best value for poontang anywhere, IMHO it has to be Cambodia where $5 ST and $20LT is still standard. Never been to India, and from ALL I have heard I haven't missed a thing (mongering wise).
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Philippines Vrs India...?
[QUOTE=Love The Ladies]3.5 dollars for short time
18 dollars for full night
quality varies[/QUOTE]
Having been to Indian, Mumbai, New Delhi & Agra, India is not exactly comparable with Bangkok and the Philippines. Don’t get me wrong here Indian girls do have nice bodies, but in terms the club scene and being able to see what is on offer before you partake doesn’t really exist.
I don’t know about you but I like the [i]go go type bars[/i], but I have always found if you treat the Philippino girls like a human being, nine times out of ten they will came back and hang out with you the following day. Now where else do you get that?
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Where to get the best FS in Manila
Guys,
Guys, go to Sucat Road, this is only a few kilometers away from the International Airport. Ask your cab driver to take you to StarFleet (Have you experienced a Wet Thai Massage!? I won't tell you the details so as not to spoil your fun, hehe). Damage Php4,000 or $71. You'll get a Presidential room for 1.5 hour use (Php2,000) + FS (Php 1,000) + Wet Thai Massage (Php 1,000) or $71 all in all. You get to select the ladies from the "aquarium" or show room if you may call it. If you are not satisfied with the selection, just across the street is AirForce One, this one also has Presidential Suite around Php 3,500 (for 2 hours), FS is room rate. Total damage Php7,000 or $125. Same, it has a showroom, where you can select the ladies. The both places are safe, rooms in AF1 are grand. In between the 2 joint is McDonalds (This is your landmark, btw). There are more massage areas in Quezon City area but are quite far if you are in Makati or Malate area. If you happen to drop by in Manila or Makati, PM me. I travel most of the time due to work, but I'll try to assist you if I get the chance to browse the net.
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Manila Hotels
Can someone please recommend a hotel similar to Majestic or Davis in BKK , that is in a good location in Manila and close to action (even 5 min by cab) and has a good price 50 to 60 USD, there seems to be a tone of hotels on the net and cant figure them out.
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[QUOTE=Macho Dik]Can anyone tells me if the Harrizon Plaza still the place for picking up freelancers? what will be the damage for ST / LT.[/QUOTE]
I'm told it has been ever since it was built about 20 years ago, and likely always will be as long as it's on the boundary between Pasay and Malate.
However, what you find there are the girls that either haven't figured out how to get a guy yet on their own, or the girls who guys wouldn't otherwise go with. You can easily find the better ones on your own. You don't need to pay some pimp for them, and the ones you wouldn't want, well, you don't want those anyway!
Magkano?? Depending on how stupid they think you are, pimps will quote you P1000, P1500, P2000, or even more. On top of that, don't be surprised if the girl hints you might give her a tip, since what you give the pimp mostly stays with the pimp.
If you really want a HP pickup, then avoid the pimps. Sooner or later someone cute enough will approach you. Make your arrangements directly. Proper price is maybe P500, though I suppose you could be extravagent and give her 1000, and if you get along, then offer her breakfast and buy her some cheap clothes the next day - if you don't mind her hanging out with you the next night too.
Short-time? Long-time? Let that sort itself out as you get to know her, unless you really want a crude pump-n-dump. In that case, P300-500 plus a room.
Speaking of room, and if you've not read enough to know this by now, you DO NOT go to "HER" place! Hey, that's Pasay there! Don't do it. Hop on a jeep and go to one of the hotels south of there on Harrison, or go the other way and find Sogo or whatever the place is by DelPilar&Remedios that escapes my memory but starts with an "A". "Anito", that's it! Been there a few times, nice place, a bit more expensive (depending on room and time between 400 - 900P) - try for the jaccuzi room at the higher end if you have a bit of money to splurge - it's a "garage room" (meaning it includes your car when your drive in vrs taxi or walkin). Or, you can get a room further into Malate/Ermita for more money, or you can go further in the other direction into Baclaran. Baclaran is another place you should be xtra careful in. Just be careful and *YOU* choose the place and make sure she doesn't have any nasty people behind her. Do I trust street people at HP??? No! (Don't be too trusting on the street anywhere around there either, especially later at night. You might get lucky. Or you might get injured or worse.)
Though I've never done the HP-pickup thing, if I wanted to then that's how I'd do it. Works everywhere else!
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what to do?
First I would like to thank everybody for such a wonderful site. Thank very much for all the information I have gather so far.
Also I would like to add I am not sure whether I should be posting in the AC board or here so I posted on both.
Now for the question, I will be landing in MNL on Saturday at 10:00 am thus I can make it to “fly the bus” (3:00 run) to AC the same day and save a little cash instead of taking a cab but I was thinking should I try Manila first to just get my feet wet? Maybe try LA Café?
What to you experts think should I stay one or two night in Manila first to get my feet wet or just head out to AC?
Should I save a little bit of money and take the “fly the bus” or should I take a cab?
Thanks again for all your help
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[QUOTE=Professional]First I would like to thank everybody for such a wonderful site. Thank very much for all the information I have gather so far.
Also I would like to add I am not sure whether I should be posting in the AC board or here so I posted on both.
Now for the question, I will be landing in MNL on Saturday at 10:00 am thus I can make it to “fly the bus” (3:00 run) to AC the same day and save a little cash instead of taking a cab but I was thinking should I try Manila first to just get my feet wet? Maybe try LA Café?
What to you experts think should I stay one or two night in Manila first to get my feet wet or just head out to AC?
Should I save a little bit of money and take the “fly the bus” or should I take a cab?
Thanks again for all your help[/QUOTE]
First I would recommend taking a victory bus instead of Fly-the-bus. Victory charges about 100 Pesos, instead of the 300 Pesos for Fly-the-bus, and they leave every 30 minutes instead of at certain times (and the fly-the-buses have a havit of leaving early). Just ask any taxi to take you to the Victory bus terminal in Passay, they all know it. Also, the fly-the-busses are getting quite old and the TV's didn't work the last time I used them.
I would absolutely recommend checking out Manila first. I find the Manila girls to be much more attractrive then the AC girls. If you like your girls slim and beautiful (in the eye of the beholder, of course), you may find AC quite lacking, unless you want to spend 50,000 on a cherry girl. I live in Manila and am very picky, and the AC girls for me just don't make the cut. But if you don't check out both, how will you ever know!!! You should check out EDSA complex in Manila, LA Cafe, and Burgos street. Not that I particularly recommend Burgos street, but the girls there are different and as a first timer you should check it out. If you do check out Burgoss, A good selection would be Flamingo, Wild West, Blush, Montana, Bandido, High Heels. Avoid walking into just any bar there as some hire really ugly girls, some just rip you off, and others have beautiful girls that want you to buy them drinks, but wont go with you.
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Manila ?
I would agree with L.A.W. with a couple additions.
How much time do you have ? Will 1 or 2 nights in MNL costs you too much time ? If not, definately check out Manila. I, too, am not fond of P. Burgous but love EDSA and checking out the street life in L.A. Cafe.
Victory Liner vs "Fly the Bus"
If you're staying in Ermita F.T.B. is very convenient, with 3 trips a day. It is also easier if you have a lot of luggage. In addition they drop you at your hotel, where as Victory will be going to downtown AC or Dau, so you'll need to trike to your hotel. Yes, the FTB buses are getting a little worn, but they're often not filled up either. They serve drinks and snacks and you will get a drink/food/[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] stop en route. Most of the passengers will be fellow travelers on FTB. Victory liner does have many more buses going and is much cheaper. I think I paid 70 p last time and FTB has raised it's price to 350.
So, IMHO, consider the Victory Liner if you decide to go straight from the airport to AC and FTB if you stay in town a couple nights. A taxi from the airport might also be a viable choice, if you find a fellow traveler to share the ride. It has been a while since I've done this, but it was 1500 p for the taxi ride from NAIA to AC.
So, as they say in the RP, "Up to you".
FD
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Professional!
Are you a "tight guy" (holding on to your cents)?
If so - go to AC ASAP.
If not - stay in Manila and enjoy the possibilities.
I have not been in AC, but enjoyed Manila a lot. I do read the threads, and I understand that AC is low life compared to Manila.
When Firedick states that he prefer EDSA and LA Cafe to AC (and he is one of the guys with experience!), I would say - WHY SAVE A FEW DOLLARS when you can have the variety that you will find in Metro-Manila compared to AC.
Look at the details; a barfine in EDSA is php 1000 - then you pay php 1500 for all night with the girl! In AC you pay abt php 1500 for both, a difference of abt USD 10.
This is when we are talking about WG's. At daytime - you can go to the malls, or other places, hunting down ladies for ST or LT play/stay in your hotel and have fun. Why eat dust in AC when you can have fun in Manila?
I notice that only a few of our members have been to the "new" Entertainment Complex close to the old domestic terminal (mentionied back in feb/march 2005). They have A LOT OF LADIES, but only a few customers yet, so any guy visiting will have more than a hundred ladies to choose from.
Why go to AC when you have it all in Manila?
This just my humble opinion from being a frequent reader of all the RP-threads for several years (and a re-re-repeating visitor to the capitol for about 10 years, enjoying every minute of it. Except for when working :) ).
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First I would like to thank everybody for all there great advice and to clarify. Money is not the issue I am just trying to get the biggest bang for the bucks sort of speak. As I read the forum I would say that is true for most of us. Why spend the money if you do not have too?
The way I figure it is if I stay in Manila the hotel will cost me 1500 (executive plaza) fly the bus will cost me 500. If I took a cab straight to AC it would cost me 2200. Thus it would save me money to stay in Manila for one night. The only real expense is I might pay more is the bar fine. The other thing I am considering is I land on a Saturday at 10:00 am and from what I gather from the forum most of the most beautiful women come out on weekend only. I do not mind paying a little more for better quality.
On the other hand if I took the fly by bus straight out to MNL I would pay 500 plus taxi approx 250 total of 750. and can get start from there. Arriving at 10 am gives me a lot of options and I guess that is why I need some advice too many options to choice from.
I can afford a couple of days in Manila but I figure one day in Manila to get my feet wet. Next day to AC and from there I can make my decision. Is the women from Manila worth the extra pesos? But if I started off in AC I would not know if I should cut some time off of AC and head back to Manila or visa versa. What do you guy think?
From the research I have done it seems like the best place for the money is Hotel Royal Amsterdam this seems to give the best value for the dollar from what I have been reading on the board.
Also I would just like to thank everybody again for all your great advise hopefully I can repay this debt.
Thank you very much
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[QUOTE=Marconista]Professional!
Are you a "tight guy" (holding on to your cents)?
If so - go to AC ASAP.
If not - stay in Manila and enjoy the possibilities.
I have not been in AC, but enjoyed Manila a lot. I do read the threads, and I understand that AC is low life compared to Manila.
When Firedick states that he prefer EDSA and LA Cafe to AC (and he is one of the guys with experience!), I would say - WHY SAVE A FEW DOLLARS when you can have the variety that you will find in Metro-Manila compared to AC.
Look at the details; a barfine in EDSA is php 1000 - then you pay php 1500 for all night with the girl! In AC you pay abt php 1500 for both, a difference of abt USD 10.
This is when we are talking about WG's. At daytime - you can go to the malls, or other places, hunting down ladies for ST or LT play/stay in your hotel and have fun. Why eat dust in AC when you can have fun in Manila?
Why go to AC when you have it all in Manila?
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Very well said Marconista!!!
I think this concept of "just go to Angeles City as there is where all the girls are" is just plain wrong. Sure, 10 years ago it was true, but today??? I remember my first trip to the Philippines. I just went straight to AC and it was filled with beautiful girls. But that was then. Today, all the cute girls have figured out they can make much more in Manila, and the ones left behind are fat, ugly, or cherry girls trying to sucker a rich Korean/Chinese/Japenese out of 50,000 Pesos.
Are the girls in AC "nicer" then the Manila girls? In general, yes, but there is an inverse relationship between nice girls and cute girls. The more attractive the girl, the more of a *****, and the uglier she is, the nicer she is. Obviously, lots of exceptions to this rule, but in general it is true both in Manila and AC. Just walk into Flamingo bar on burgos and you will find lots of model quality girls who are stuck up bitches. Walk across the street to Mogambo, and it will be filled with some of the sweetest, ugliest girls you have ever met.
And keep in mind Saturday is a little special. AC is a bar town and most of the girls work the bars day in and day out. The Manila bars tend to have a more relaxed policy, especially with attractive girls, that lets them come to work only sometimes. There are many, many girls who only work the weekends in Manila. Saturday night is the best night and should not be missed. Just walk into the Firehouse at about 11:00 PM and WHOA!!!
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One more thing
I forget to mention the short time (3 hours) long time (overnight) thing. Angeles girls tend to stay overnight and Manila girls prefer short time. This has a lot to do with the fact that many Manila girls tend to live with their families, cover up their jobs, and need to get back in the early AM. This is espicially true with the weekend girls who tell their parents they are going out for the night with their friends. In AC, the girls tend to live in dorms, or with their sister/cousin/friend and everyone knows what they do. If having the girl stay overnight is important, AC might be worth a look. Also, if you like to do 3 or 4 different girls in one night, then that can get quite expensive in Manila, but is quite affordable in AC.
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Rookie Guide to LA Cafe (my own insight)
I spent 4 nights in Manila over the past 2 weeks and went to LA Cafe all 4 nights since it was only 1.5 blocks from my hotel (The Ermita Tourist Inn has semi-modern tiled rooms with warm water and air-con for only 660 pesos per night and is monger friendly).
I prefered downstairs in the LA Cafe as it was less crowded and had better air circulation. It you are not into getting pawed by all the ultra aggressive working girls, decline the table the hostess offers (say you are looking for your friend) and head to a table in back by the pool tables. Girls will still come up to you but will not be as aggressive as the ones in front. Then if you do not see something of interest, every 15 minutes or so you can make a round of the front section until you find a promising prospect and can bring her back to your table to chat.
If you are sitting alone girls will come up to you but if you are not interested and you say you are looking for other ladies they will still try to sit with you and try to "find" you a lady expecting a 200-300 tip, so speak up and tell them you can find your own (if you cannot find one at LA Cafe you have the wrong hobby) and tell them you would rather not unless you just want someone to talk to (you will have to buy drinks to sit with them, but you can order a pitcher of beer for 189p and share it with her rather than buy lady drinks at 150p+). Be careful not to order a 350p barrel as those things are huge and will require a long stay to drink one with only 2 people. If you play pool get your name on the board and you will be charged 25p per game.
I tended to go to LA Cafe around 9PM each night, but it is open 24/7 so I guess there must be girls there at all times of day or day and night (some claim to be there looking for a client for 16 hours or more), but surely not the same selection.
I thought there was a reasonable selection of girls there at night, mostly 6s and 7s in looks but with a few 8s thrown in (there are some 9s upstairs), more 8s on the weekend. The advantage of downstairs is there is no bar fine (at least with the 4 girls I took out). There were a few mamas around sometimes, but there are also plenty of freelance girls there without, so choose and/or negotiate accordingly. Negotiate everything up front (price, number of rounds, acts, pictures, departure time, etc.). I had no problem getting Long Time from each of the 4 for 1800-2000 p all inclusive (3 rounds, pics, etc. until 9AM or so), although I am sure those who are local can get lower.
Happy Mongering
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Ac
Marco,
You mis-quoted me. I never said I prefer EDSA and LA Cafe to AC. I did say I love em, but actually prefer AC to everything in Manila.
If I was on a short schedule, I'd be outta MNL as fast as possible.
AC isn't that dusty anymore.
Pro,
As you can see, it's a matter of taste. Best to draw your own conclusions.
FD
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suitcase storage options
Hi guy,
First I would like to thank FD, LAW, Marconista, columpuss, and xman for all your great advice.
Sorry for all the questions but I have one more does anyone know of a place I can store a suitcase in Manila or MNL? I will be doing some island hopping and just need a place to store my suitcase so I can just island hop with a backpack. And yes I need to bring both the suitcase will be 1/2 full while I am island hopping but nothing valuable.
If I stay in a hotel in Manila will they store it for me until I get back I plan on island hopping for about 10 days.
Thanks again you guy you’re the best.
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Bag storage in Manila
[QUOTE=Professional] I have one more does anyone know of a place I can store a suitcase in Manila or MNL? I will be doing some island hopping and just need a place to store my suitcase so I can just island hop with a backpack. And yes I need to bring both the suitcase will be 1/2 full while I am island hopping but nothing valuable.
If I stay in a hotel in Manila will they store it for me until I get back I plan on island hopping for about 10 days.
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Strangely there is no baggage storage at Manila airport, but many “decent” hotels can store your bags for some island hopping. I know Swagman hotel can but to be honest it’s not a very good hotel generally. If you trade up to a four or five star hotel this would be possible, some three star hotels could, but you might require a room booking.
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A storage place at NAIA
I stored my 3 bags there when I flew in from the US last year. Although they will tell you its for airline crew, dont believe them. Before you exit from the international terminal go immediately to the right and there is a little doorway that you will see and you can go in there and leave your bag(s) for a fee. You can also ask any of the security folks there and they should tell where its located. I think if I'm not mistaken, I paid P450 for leaving my bags. Not sure if that's for the day or per hour(s). But you can leave your bags there. You just have to inquire!
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Bag storage ......
[QUOTE=Trim Keeper]Although they will tell you its for airline crew, dont believe them. Before you exit from the international terminal go immediately to the right and there is a little doorway that you will see and you can go in there and leave your bag(s) for a fee.
Trim-[/QUOTE]
Thanks Trim, earlier this year I wanted to deposit some baggage my airline and the information desk were not helpful. They made some excuse that it was due to enhanced security reasons, for no baggage storage. This is strange because NAIA seems to be the only airport in Asia that has no baggage storage. I had to cart my bags with me to AF1. :)
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Gonna have my first Philippine mongering experience next month. (hopefully) I have been there a couple times, but never alone, so I haven't been able to sample the goods.I appreciate all the input you guys give here.
I have a question. anybody know how easy it is to change departing flights from Manila?
I would have to change my flight the day of to make it happen. Is this easy? Expensive?
Any input would be appreciated.
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[QUOTE=Hobby Knob]I have a question. anybody know how easy it is to change departing flights from Manila?
I would have to change my flight the day of to make it happen. Is this easy? Expensive?
Any input would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
I am not sure if this question is appropriate here since it could be answered easily elsewhere or by a telephone call to your airline.
But the jest of question would be difficult to answer anyway because one, we don’t know which airlines you are travelling with and two, at what class, economy, business or first?
Basically if you buy a business or first class ticket, depending on how regularly the airline departs Manila, no problem on changing the ticket.
This is a question you should be asking when you actually purchase the ticket.
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[QUOTE=Hobby Knob]Gonna have my first Philippine mongering experience next month. (hopefully) I have been there a couple times, but never alone, so I haven't been able to sample the goods.I appreciate all the input you guys give here.
I have a question. anybody know how easy it is to change departing flights from Manila?
I would have to change my flight the day of to make it happen. Is this easy? Expensive?
Any input would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
Hi Hobby,
I have changed my ticket leaving Manila many times. I have done this while traveling on Philippines Airlines when flying to Hong Kong, Cathay Pacific when flying to Hong Kong and Northwest Airlines leaving to Japan and onward to the USA.
In all cases I just called the airline and went to the airport the day of my new flight schedule and had my new ticket printed. Getting into the terminal will be a little different as they will notice that your travel date on the ticket is not the same day you are traveling. They will either let you in with no problem or put your information in a book they keep at the door entrance. They will record your passport information the flight information of your ticket and then your new flight information from what I remember. If flying Philippines Airlines go to their offices just to the right of the entrance gates to get your new ticket. Be nice and they may upgrade you to business class as they have for me on a few occasions.
If flying NWA always go online to see what flight are available and check the connections as well. I was almost put on a flight to japan from Manila Biz class and then from Japan to Detroit on economy, even though I had an upgrade to biz class. So be sure to know flight numbers of the fights you are changing to and that they have those and not just something the computer spits out to them.
Your hotel can give you all the airline phone numbers.
Good luck.
FF
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Taxi Travel
I am gonna be in Manilla in december and want to know if the way to travel outside the city is safest via taxi. My girl tells me she would not trust a bus but a cab is sometimes just as bad. Is there any car companies that are trustworthy?? Can I trust the hotel to arrange safe secure travel in or outside Manila?? This may sound like a broken record but I have read many post about this subject and was looking for recent input on the subject.
What is the weather in december also, will I need a light weight coat or just a regular shirt gonna do the trick.
What things should I bring for personal items like for heat rash,flue,allergy,ect??
Thanks fellas, allways great to have your help.
Play Safe.
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Golf and mongering in November :)
Hi guys,
Is there anyone out there that care to go for a round of golf in November and later some mongering?
I will arrive on November 2 and stay for 2 weeks.
Take care
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LA Cafe experience by a newbie
I know there has been a lot of discussion generated in this thread about the merits and drawbacks to the LA Cafe, but I'd like to toss my two cents worth into the ring. I just returned home from the Phils and went to the LA Cafe for the first time. Unfortunately I went on a Sunday afternoon, which is probably about the worst time you can go there. There certainly weren't many women in there, but even at that slow time the female-male ratio was about 5-1.
I stayed at the Hyatt Hotel, which is located about a block away from the LA Cafe in the Malate area of Manila. I must admit the area is certainly quite seedy and at first glance is not the kind of neighborhood you would want to be in after dark. But I encountered no problems with walking to and from the cafe at night, nor in walking to and from the Robinsons Mall which is located two blocks to the east. I kept my wits about me at all times and spent part of the time walking in the street, but I had no problems at all. But I'd certainly recommend exercising caution at all times because there's a lot of mangey characters hanging around. I constantly got hit up by men offering me fake Rolexes and silver coins, as well as Viagara and offers to
exchange my money at favorable rates.
As I was walking down the main street in the area (the name escapes me) a young girl comes up to me and says, "I want to go with you". I said back to her, "no, you can't because you are too young". And she says, "I know but I want to go with you anyway". I ask her age and she says she's 17. A really cute girl, but she wasn't for me.
Anyway, I walked from the Hyatt to the LA Cafe at about 4 pm on Sunday afternoon. As to be expected, there weren't many women there. The upper level was closed and the lower level had plenty of empty tables. I'd guess there were about 15 women in there, and about 3 men. Gotta love the odds, ha ha. But the quality left a lot to be desired, there weren't very many good looking women there at all. Some were haggared, some were just plain ugly. But I sat down at the bar and ordered a San Miguel, and as soon as I did a woman came up to me with another woman in tow and said, "hi, I would like to introduce you to **** (name escapes me), she's a good girl". I then asked the obvious question, "what does 'good girl' mean"? And she smiled and said, "she will be a good girl to you". After chatting with her a while I got the impression that she was a tout trying to set men up with women from the provinces who didn't speak much English. But I really wasn't interested in the girl she brought over and told her I was just going to drink and check out the place.
I certainly attracted a lot of stares from women in the bar and got lots of smiles as I visually scanned the place. Just what my ego was looking for, ha ha. Well, I got up and walked around and stopped and talked to a couple of ladies. Then at a corner table I saw two women and spotted who I considered to be the prettiest woman in the joint. Her name is Marites (Mary Tess), a 22 year old cutie from the Baguio area. Her English was passable but certainly not polished. Hair to the middle of her back, and was dressed in a cute red and white top, white denim capri pants, and some 2 inch cute high heels.
She says there are many days that she has no business, and has averaged about 2 to 3 customers a week. She used to have a sales clerk job at the Robinsons Mall but only earned about $60 a month for 10 hours of work, 6 days a week. Apparently she sends a lot of her money to her mom, and also helps out her sister and brother in law as well. I'm a pretty good judge of character and I didn't detect any BS from her at all. I feel she was as genuine as the day is long. 20 minutes of conversation had me convinced I wanted her. I asked her the price and she said 1500 pesos. Previous posts have indicated that's an average price, so I accepted and we walked out the door and headed to the hotel. As we exited the Cafe she immediately took my hand and we walked hand in hand to the hotel. We looked so cute, a 45 year old white man with gray hair and a cute 22 year old darkskinned beauty walking like lovers. God I love this country.
We encountered no hassle from the hotel security. She had to have her purse checked and was forced to walk through a metal detector, but other than that it was easy to bring her on in. When asked she said she had been working at the cafe for about 3 weeks and this was her first time to a hotel as nice as the Hyatt. As we entered the room she began to "ooh and ahh" about how nice it is. I must admit the Hyatt is sure a nice hotel and the room is top notch but a bit pricey at $90 a night. Of course she went in to take a shower, and I took one after she finished. As I left the shower and headed into the room, I saw her laying on the bed, wrapped in the white hotel robe. I walked over to the bed and crawled on in and we layed there and chatted a bit while she cuddled in next to me.
She kept commenting over and over about my white skin and my nose. I told her that she was very cute and she said "no, I am not cute at all". I asked her why and she said it is because of her dark skin and flat nose. When I told her that most western men really like women who have her looks, she didn't want to believe it. But once I reassured her I was correct, she really got all lovey dovey and started kissing me. We proceeded to spend a lot of time french kissing and of course getting down to business. She was patient and certainly wanted me to be satisfied. I didn't want to cum right away so I would pull it out periodically and then insert it back in again. I probably spent about 30 minutes rock hard inside of her before I eventually would cum, and she appeared to enjoy every minute. It was the ultimate girlfriend experience, which was exactly what I was searching for.
After we were done she immediately got up and took a shower, then came back to bed. We chatted a bit, then got dressed and I told her I'd walk her back to the cafe. Once we got there she pulled me on in and we made one pass around the place. I was prepared to let her go back to work, but she asked what I had planned now. I said I was going to go to the mall and walk
around and get something to eat. She said "wow", and I could tell she thought that sounded like fun. I asked her if she wanted to go and she immediately smiled and said yes. So we walked hand and hand again to the mall, and at the intersections she would put her arms around my waist and smile and kiss me. We proceeded to eat dinner, and while sitting next to her she brought out her cell phone and started taking photos of me. She then took a couple of us sitting together, which turned out pretty good. That gave me the idea about taking some nude shots of her back at the room. She said it would be ok as long as I didn't post them on the internet. So I have a visual archive of our time together, and if I knew how to blur faces I'd post a couple here.
After dinner I asked if she would like to see a movie. She squeezed my hand and smiled widely, and said yes. So we went to see some forgetable movie, but while in the theatre she acted totally like a girlfriend. SHe held my hand and would put her head on my shoulder as I put my arm around her. Occasionally I would take her hand and put it on my cock, and she abligingly would rub it for me. Good girl :-)
I kept expecting her to say, "I need to get going, thank you for the nice time", but she never did. She willingly went back to my hotel room and we had another round of boom boom, then went to sleep. We got up at about 7 am and went at it again, and I was totally spent. She had to go meet her sister at 10 am so she left shortly before that time. I gave her the 1500 pesos and she never asked for any more money.
I had an appointment for later that day, so I told her I'd call her at about 6 pm, which I did. We then had dinner, went to the hotel casino, and went back to the room for another couple of rounds of boom boom. That night she looked at me and said, "I like you very very much. You are the nicest man I have ever been with". I do believe her emotion was genuine, and she truly enjoyed being with me. Mongering in the Philippines is such a paradox. The lines between P4P and girl friend are certainly blurred. I know she was a prostitute, but she was probably the sweetest woman I have ever been with. I'm convinced she was doing this work to help earn money for her mom and her sister, and because traditional job opportunities pay so little money. I convinced myself that the lifestyle hadn't corrupted her yet, and hadn't turned her into looking at men as simply opportunities to extract money.
But all good things eventually come to an end. I boarded my plane home on Wednesday morning, and another chapter of my life is over. As I sit here, I am counting the months until my next trip there. In 12 days I slept with 5 P4P women and all experiences were awesome in their own way. Filipinas are sure a different breed compared to Western gals.
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Keen Eye Joe
Excellent post. Quintessentially the reason (IMHO) most of us who prefer the Philippines to Thailand do. Your post brings out a strong longing to be in the RP rather than wasting my time with California girls.
FD
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Airport (Domestic) Bars
I will be in Manila next month staying near the airport. Can someone give me information on the Entertainment Complex that has a number of bars. Names? Cost? Availability of private rooms? Etc.
Thank you.
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Excellent Post!
Keen Eye Joe
Great post, I think that you summed up very well the essence of what is so attractive about the Filipina experience. I too am a relative newbie to the scene and like you I’ve had some incredibly positive experiences on my first trip to the Phils last year. You hit the nail on the head about the paradox of the blurred lines between P4P and girlfriend. I think it’s those blurred lines that keep so many of us coming back for more!
Cheers,
Sagramore
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Airport Domestic Bars (aka Domestic Entertainment Center)
Billpsu. I was there a couple weeks ago and you will find about 8 bars surrounding a coutyard type arrangement. The complex is directly accross from the Cebu Pacific building. Bar fines are 1, 000 pesos, (the girl gets none) and expect to pay 1, 000 pesos (ST) and 2, 000 pesos (LT). The girls tend to be young (18 yrs old) and somewhat inexperienced although I have had a couple of great experiences with my barfines. Also, you should expect to be the only customer in the bar but there will be no ladies drink pressure.
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fess up
Okay, Keen Eye Joe,
Fess up and tell us how much you gave her in the end. Surely she ended up with more than 1500.
Glad to hear you had a good time.
X man
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Keen Eye Joe;
I have seen many posts on this board and you have written one of the best in mho. I am glad to see you had a great trip and would welcome any add on"s via back channel you might have for me on my up cumming trip over in December.
I have met lots of gals via pc, and some are what I might call talking from a script and others are very nice and want to make you feel like you lived next door to them all your life. I am counting the days until I will be over in Manila looking for a real gfe also.
PLAY SAFE.
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Roxas Blvd Clubs
What are the best clubs along the blvd w/ barfines.
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[QUOTE=Pekpek Lovr]What are the best clubs along the blvd w/ barfines.[/QUOTE]
The only one I could recommend, and recommend quite strongly actually, is Visions. Barfine is only 1,000 Pesos, cute girls, and very nice mamasans. Second would be that bar next to Traders hotel (Inxs, or something like that). Barfine is 3,400 Pesos, but still less then a lot of the other places on Roxas. Avoid ALL of the other places on Roxas unless you are prepared to really spend some mony. Take East Asia club, for example. About 1,500 Pesos just to walk in and buy yourself and a lady a drink. If you want to take a lady out, it is a two drink minimum and 9,000 barfine.
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Keen Eye Joe
Ouch, he doesn't answer nor even aknowlege my question.
She took a piece of your heart, didn't she? Can't stop thinking about her?
Before Internet, you could actually cool down and realize that the fantasy....was a fantasy.
Lot harder now when you get home from your trip and you have love letters waiting for you in you in box.
C'mon KEJ, I'm not asking for her phone number. How much did you donate in the very end? From your story, we know it was worth it.
X Man, who has also fallen in lust and spent too much....but never after the fact. Post PI depression.......
PPiD?
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First time in the Philippines
Hello all, I'll be heading to PI for my first time come mid-Nov.. A few questions:
1. A suggestion for which part of Manilla to stay in? And any particular hotel (that is girl-friendly, of course)?
2. Same question for Cebu - where to stay and any hotel recommendations?
3. When I head out to a place like Boracay, are there bar girls there just like in Manilla? Or should I try to find one in Manilla that I can take along with me?
4. Is Angeles really worth the trip? Besides the mongering, doesn't seem like much else to do. Is it is something that one just has to see at least once?
Any help is much appreciated, thanks guys!
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[QUOTE=Big Bossman]Hello all, I'll be heading to PI for my first time come mid-Nov.. A few questions:
1. A suggestion for which part of Manilla to stay in? And any particular hotel (that is girl-friendly, of course)?
2. Same question for Cebu - where to stay and any hotel recommendations?
3. When I head out to a place like Boracay, are there bar girls there just like in Manilla? Or should I try to find one in Manilla that I can take along with me?
4. Is Angeles really worth the trip? Besides the mongering, doesn't seem like much else to do. Is it is something that one just has to see at least once?
Any help is much appreciated, thanks guys![/QUOTE]
Just a few suggestions from me. Depending on your length of stay I would stay in Makati for a couple of days so you can checkout Burgos street because if you have never been there it will be a great experience for you. I would read the posts on here so you can get a feel for what it is like. The one piece of advice I will share with you and you will also find in reading the posts is the girls are pushy for drinks and it is expensive compared to other areas. Just make sure you keep an eye on the number of ladies drinks you will be buying as they can add up in a hurry. Also keep an eye on your tab as Bottoms especially is known to add drinks you never ordered to it. One thing I can assure you and that is you will have a great time and experience. Instead of paying the bar fines try to arrange to have the girls meet you when they get off of work or set up a date for the next day. This will save you a lot of money from paying the bar fines. I would then spend a few days mongering over in area's around Manila. You have to checkout the Edsa Complex and all your taxi drivers will know what you are talking about when you tell them you want to go to the Edsa Complex in pasay. Another must for you is the LA Cafe. You will learn about all these places by taking the time to read the previous posts. The taxi fares to these places is very minimal but get a price upfront and better yet have your hotel get a taxi for you. After getting your fill of Burgos and the Manila area I would head to Angeles City and experience another fantasy, as that is what it will be for you since you have never been there. It is very inexpensive and you will have the time of your life. If you go I would highly recommend staying at the Orchid Hotel as it is one of the best hotels offered there and the location is great. The cost is about $35.00 dollars a night and make sure you ask for a room in on the jasmine wing as it is much quieter. As far as Boracay goes, it is a very beautiful area but it is somewhere you will want to go to relax as there is nothing else to do there and that includes mongering, so take a girl from Makati or Manila with you.
The hotel you stay at is all about what you want to spend and the amenities that are important to you. A nice hotel that is inexpensive is the Citadel as it is about $35.00 dollars a night and sits right on Burgos street which is where you want to be but it is not filled with the amenities. Another nice hotel for the money and it is also on Burgos is the Best Western Astor Hotel which is a 4 star hotel and goes for $40.00 a night. To book your hotel I would go online to do it as if you wait and book it when you get to the P.I you will be paying out of your mind for a room. I have used these websites to book my rooms. Asiatravel.com., Asiahotel.com, Directhotel.com to name a few. One of the nicest hotels you can stay at in Makati is the Renaisannce and it is generally a $90+ dollar a night hotel. I just checked on asiahotel.com the other day and they had it for $65.00 dollars a night. That is the site I also found the prices for the other hotels I listed above. You will never find a better bargain than that price for a hotel. All the prices I quoted you were with tax included. The other thing when shopping these websites for a hotel make sure you check them all out because there are big descrepancies in the prices of the same hotel room from site to site.
This is what I have to share with you at this time. I hope it provides you with some of the information you are searching for, but all the information is available in the prior posts so please take some time and do some reading, as it will better prepare you for hopefully a vacation of a lifetime since you have yet to experience the LBFM!
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Renaissance/New World Makati is Monger Hostile
[QUOTE=On The Go]One of the nicest hotels you can stay at in Makati is the Renaisannce and it is generally a $90+ dollar a night hotel. I just checked on asiahotel.com the other day and they had it for $65.00 dollars a night.[/QUOTE]
I previously warned about the Renaissance/New World Makati. No doubt a nice hotel and inexpensively priced, but it is the most monger-hostile hotel that I have experienced in Asia. With very few exceptions, you will be required to register any guests and provide a valid ID. This policy is clearly posted at the front desk. Colleagues of mine have been dragged out of elevators to register their companions. To boot, the front desk staff will treat the girls like criminal hoes - this is not the hassle that any monger who can afford a 4-5 star hotel needs. Be advised to give this hotel a pass. AR+
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Thanks for the imput A.R!!!!!
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[QUOTE=Asian Rain]I previously warned about the Renaissance/New World Makati. No doubt a nice hotel and inexpensively priced, but it is the most monger-hostile hotel that I have experienced in Asia. With very few exceptions, you will be required to register any guests and provide a valid ID. This policy is clearly posted at the front desk. Colleagues of mine have been dragged out of elevators to register their companions. To boot, the front desk staff will treat the girls like criminal hoes - this is not the hassle that any monger who can afford a 4-5 star hotel needs. Be advised to give this hotel a pass. AR+[/QUOTE]
Hi AR,
I am not doubting your experience at the New World Renaissance, but I have stayed there along with fellow travelers approximately 6 different times. The last time was June 2004. I have never had a problem there and was only asked once to have my guest check at the front desk, to which I declined the request, and was never bothered again. Not sure why my experience was so different to yours.
FF
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New World
[QUOTE=Frequent Flier]Hi AR,
I am not doubting your experience at the New World Renaissance, but I have stayed there along with fellow travelers approximately 6 different times. The last time was June 2004. I have never had a problem there and was only asked once to have my guest check at the front desk, to which I declined the request, and was never bothered again. Not sure why my experience was so different to yours.
FF[/QUOTE]I can echo FF's experience at the New World. I was asked to register my companion to which I politely declined and kept on marching to my room. No hassles.
The girls, when leaving ask for a note saying she was here with my permission so they can get through the lobby without me going down with them.
Peskadot
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Recent Experience at NWR
[QUOTE=Frequent Flier]Hi AR,
I am not doubting your experience at the New World Renaissance, but I have stayed there along with fellow travelers approximately 6 different times. The last time was June 2004. I have never had a problem there and was only asked once to have my guest check at the front desk, to which I declined the request, and was never bothered again. Not sure why my experience was so different to yours.
FF[/QUOTE]
As previously posted in the Makati thread, the NWR has updated its guest policy to its current severe conditions in 2005, apparently as a result of one of their guests getting ripped off by a working girl. I am aware that the previous policy was more "optional." The current policy is mandatory and non-negotiable, even the manager told me NO. They will not prevent girls from going in, but they will require ID and sign-in before they can go up to your room. All should stand warned of this hotel. If there are any doubts, just call the hotel and confirm their policy when making a reservation. Cheers, AR+
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[QUOTE=Asian Rain]As previously posted in the Makati thread, the NWR has updated its guest policy to its current severe conditions in 2005, apparently as a result of one of their guests getting ripped off by a working girl. I am aware that the previous policy was more "optional." The current policy is mandatory and non-negotiable, even the manager told me NO. They will not prevent girls from going in, but they will require ID and sign-in before they can go up to your room. All should stand warned of this hotel. If there are any doubts, just call the hotel and confirm their policy when making a reservation. Cheers, AR+[/QUOTE]
Hi AR,
Thanks for the update. I missed that post. That certainly upsets me as I am a Marriott Platinum member and always was upgraded to the club level where I had access to the free breakfast, free small meals throughout the day and free drinks in the late afternoon. It is not worth the upgrade if they are going to hassle you. Thanks for the update. I think I'll return to the Shangri La next time.
FF
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[QUOTE=Asian Rain]As previously posted in the Makati thread, the NWR has updated its guest policy to its current severe conditions in 2005, apparently as a result of one of their guests getting ripped off by a working girl. I am aware that the previous policy was more "optional." The current policy is mandatory and non-negotiable, even the manager told me NO. They will not prevent girls from going in, but they will require ID and sign-in before they can go up to your room. All should stand warned of this hotel. If there are any doubts, just call the hotel and confirm their policy when making a reservation. Cheers, AR+[/QUOTE]AR,
With all due respect, don't ask the Manager. He will quote the written rule, but will not tell you what happens in reality.
Peskadot
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skip angeles city
[QUOTE=Big Bossman]Hello all, I'll be heading to PI for my first time come mid-Nov.. A few questions:
1. A suggestion for which part of Manilla to stay in? And any particular hotel (that is girl-friendly, of course)?
2. Same question for Cebu - where to stay and any hotel recommendations?
3. When I head out to a place like Boracay, are there bar girls there just like in Manilla? Or should I try to find one in Manilla that I can take along with me?
4. Is Angeles really worth the trip? Besides the mongering, doesn't seem like much else to do. Is it is something that one just has to see at least once?
Any help is much appreciated, thanks guys![/QUOTE]
to big bossman
angeles is a very dirty city is just for monging only there is not much to
do during the day time expect sleeping , you should stay in manila for a
few days stay at malate area close to la cafe and robinson mall and few
15 min taxi away from makiti and the edsa area and the airport.
i also like cebu city alot many thing to do , scuba diving , shopping mall and
the beach in matican area , this is a big city with alot of massage and club
actions at night and the quality of the girl and value is better than manila
in my option.
boracay is very expensive is get to and girl is also very expensive and the
action is very poor , is a good place to bring a girl friend for a vacation and
for scuba diving and swimming it have some of the best beach in asia but
not as good as phi phi island or koh samui of thailand my favorite place , pm
me if you have any more questions.
fast eddie 48
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Planning (of the fluid plan variety) on being in Manila Sunday 30th for a couple of nights if anybody is around for a beer and going exploring. Staying in Malate. Drop me a PM.
Cheers,
Sonic
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Robber girls in Manila L.A.Cafe
Be careful!!
A friend of mine has recently been robbed by a girl from LA Cafe. Unfortunately for him, the hotel did not do ID card checks. His lady seemed allright and obviously wore the signs of childbearing.
Just before leaving, he was about to hand over the agreed amount. Then the girl innocently stated that in fact she had been a minor of 17 1/2 years and demanded an outrageous amount, threatening to call the coppers.
He was totally shocked and knowing no better option immediately paid up. So, buyer beware at LA Cafe.
Totally empty of pesos he went to change some money on Mabini Street. Then he was cheated by the money changer. Being separated by the thick bars, there was little he could do. Must have been his unlucky day.
Because of the extorted money he had to cut his holiday short.
Hard to believe but better be more careful of these "lovely", smiling people.
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Humble turd
So, where were you while your newbie friend was being fucked up the ass ?
If this is a real story you should have warned him of such rookie, first timer, pratfalls. No ? Maybe you are BSing us then.
OK, let's assume for a moment that the story you posted is true.
Newbies: If such a situation occurs, play hardball. The girl says, "I'm calling the police" you say: "good, I was going to get them up here too". If she say's "I'm too young" you simply counter with "that's not what you said ten minutes ago". The cops in the RP are not all dishonest. All, or certainly most, have seen their fair share of the honest, naive, tourist taken advantage of by locals using the fear of the unknown to their advanatage. A position of being right and not being afraid of standing up for it, goes a long way in the Filipino way of thinking. Don't be a victim. Humble Turd is speading fearful crap that is unfair to the way most of the Philippines is.
Don't do stuff that is obviously unlawful. No drugs, no too young girls, and you'll be fine. Talk to cops as equals, stand your ground, respectfully.
Humble Turd suggests being careful. Always good advice. I'm just not sure he knows what it means.
FD
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OUCH! Your Being Pretty Tough There Firedick!
[QUOTE=Firedick]So, where were you while your newbie friend was being fucked up the ass ?
If this is a real story you should have warned him of such rookie, first timer, pratfalls. No ? Maybe you are BSing us then.
OK, let's assume for a moment that the story you posted is true.
Newbies: If such a situation occurs, play hardball. The girl says, "I'm calling the police" you say: "good, I was going to get them up here too". If she say's "I'm too young" you simply counter with "that's not what you said ten minutes ago". The cops in the RP are not all dishonest. All, or certainly most, have seen their fair share of the honest, naive, tourist taken advantage of by locals using the fear of the unknown to their advanatage. A position of being right and not being afraid of standing up for it, goes a long way in the Filipino way of thinking. Don't be a victim. Humble Turd is speading fearful crap that is unfair to the way most of the Philippines is.
Don't do stuff that is obviously unlawful. No drugs, no too young girls, and you'll be fine. Talk to cops as equals, stand your ground, respectfully.
Humble Turd suggests being careful. Always good advice. I'm just not sure he knows what it means.
FD[/QUOTE]
What reason would Humble Turd have to lie or is this your sarcastic humour since I do not know you to be a judge of that?. Why not give the guy the benefit of the doubt?. Why the reference like that about his friend?. Being so harsh on a guy like this will make others fearful to post. In closing, the information you provided is excellent and even though most of us know that information, it is great to be reminded of it from time to time.
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Taking Advantage of Stupidity
that's the story of the unluckiest mongering day in the history of the pi.
i am surprised that a guy would be feeble-minded enough to get taken in by an **** scam by a girl with obvious signs of child birth. whatever her looks, she would need an id to get into la cafe - where the carding is rather rigorous (but not perfect). had such an unlikely situation happened to me, i would have just called down to the front desk and asked the hotel to send someone up.
for the money changers, you need to ask the rate in advance. any money changer will give you cash with a calculation reciept. if a mistake has been made, you need to tell them at the counter. be especially careful if they give you a bunch of small bills. it's best to assume that a mistake might be made. count your money at the cage.
a good friend like humble turd should have been a cell phone call away from his troubled mate. shame on you for not being there to tell him what to do in such a situation. anyway, stupidity is the lowest hanging fruit in the mongering world - don't be surprised when it gets picked on. ar+
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email LA Cafe
**** girls at la?
true story. the guy is not a sex-veteran. but even a veteran can fall for it i guess if in a wrong pass, or just tired.
there is no id card checking at la! also, is there even a sign stating legal entry age? where? maybe in a dark corner but not on front door.
the problem is: adult sex maybe ok. but if someone gets in real trouble with minors there that will get publicity, may even get into western media and will affect the newly blossoming ermita meat-trade. see what happened 10-15 years ago.
also, there are too many things to worry about. one can easily forget to check the girls' card himself. every quality establishment does it, worldwide, la cafe apparently not. i don't suppose that la cafe is actually in the child-meat trade, then why they don't do it?
just to be safer for all of us, i have already emailed la cafe and raised the issue. they are at:
domain: ermita.com
user: lacafe
just for our peace of mind why not several of us email them and request that girls' id cards be checked on entry. it only takes a minute. and might save a whole lot of trouble for even you.
thanks for joining in.
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as for the money changer: before you change, ask them to actually write down the rate offered and not say it only verbally. there are so many fucking things to remember here.
not trying to showel shit on philippinos but i myself was nearly drugged ( hairbreadth away) on one occasion. many others fared worse. see the testimonies at margarita station in balibago, near the toilet. so, be extra careful, much more than in thailand.
and that's not "the story of the unluckiest monger in pi". there are lot-lot worse stories.
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Amusing Story
[QUOTE=Humble Turd]There is NO ID card checking at LA! Also, is there even a sign stating legal entry age? Where? Maybe in a dark corner but not on front door.
Just for our peace of mind why not several of us email them and request that girls' ID cards be checked on entry. It only takes a minute. And might save a whole lot of trouble for even you.[/QUOTE]
No, I wouldn't recommend joining this crusade, especially to ask them to do something that is already being done. I have been around LA Cafe for enough years to know that what has been written by this member is mis-informed.
Whatever axe Mr Turd is trying to grind with the management of LA Cafe - more power to him. But please let's resist this attempt to try to drag us into his numerous personal mongering problems by trumping up accusations and then getting members to join in. Could you and your friend be one and the same people? Whatever happened to you, it is not LA Cafe's fault that you picked up the wrong girl and then botched the situation further at the hotel.
LA Cafe is a straight-up establishment that does its best IMHO to keep the right people in and the wrong people out. The girls don't work for the bar, so let's not blame the bar when members happen to have a bad experience. It is embarassing to see a monger cry about his bad experience in this way.
Take responsibility for your own actions. AR+
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[QUOTE=Humble Turd]The problem is: Adult sex maybe OK. But if someone gets in real trouble with minors there that will get publicity, may even get into western media and will affect the newly blossoming Ermita meat-trade. See what happened 10-15 years ago.
[/QUOTE]
Dude, I hate to be the one to break this to you, but the western media (ie British Press) already consider the Philippine to be some Paedophile’s paradise.
PM me if you want to see the transcripts of the last article I saw on this very subject.
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Humble Turd
same thing happened to a friend of mine recently at the la cafe. he picked up a girl and. after the deed. she claimed to be ****, demanded more money, then said she was calling the police. my friend called her bluff by handing her the phone and saying to her: "what are you going to tell them, that i paid extra to do you up the ass."
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On The Go
sorry you feel that i may have bruised turds feelings. i'm not likely to loose any sleep over it.
i definately agree with ar, that we should not jump on any "crusaders bandwagon".
junior, i had a friend make the cover of a british tabloid running a feature on ****s. he was shown walking down fields ave hand in hand with an 8-10 yo filipina. his daughter. this story has reach "urban legend" status around angeles, but it is true.
fd
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[quote=firedick]sorry you feel that i may have bruised turds feelings. i'm not likely to loose any sleep over it.
i definately agree with ar, that we should not jump on any "crusaders bandwagon".
junior, i had a friend make the cover of a british tabloid running a feature on ****s. he was shown walking down fields ave hand in hand with an 8-10 yo filipina. his daughter. this story has reach "urban legend" status around angeles, but it is true.
fd[/quote]
really firedick?. so what you are really saying is you are not sure if you are going to lose any sleep over this since you stated "not likely". i sure do not want you to do this as you need to be totally healthy and energized for your mongering. :) :d
on a more serious side, i have been to the la cafe more times than i can remember and have never had a problem, and if any problems have developed when i was there involving others, which did happen in a few instances, management was there immediately to resolve them. i feel certain that la cafe does a great job in protecting there establishment and its customers. like anywhere else, there is a select few who try to be scam artists or just manipulative or deceitful in some way, but that is part of society and should be no reflection on the establishment or the patrons who frequent it, in this case the la cafe. asian rain once again said it quite well.
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[QUOTE=On The Go]On a more serious side, I have been to the La Cafe more times than I can remember and have never had a problem, and if any problems have developed when I was there involving others, which did happen in a few instances, management was there immediately to resolve them. I feel certain that La Cafe does a great job in protecting there establishment and its customers. Like anywhere else, there is a select few who try to be scam artists or just manipulative or deceitful in some way, but that is part of society and should be no reflection on the establishment or the partrons who frequent it, in this case the La Cafe. Asian Rain once again said it quite well.[/QUOTE]While in Ermita, I visited LA Cafe several times. The only problem I had: a really professional pick pocket (a chick who I sat and chatted with) got me for about 2,000 pesos one night. I caught her red handed when she was into my righthand pocket with another 1,000 (but I did not report her to management, my fault).
Bule2004
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On The Go
I'm sure.
I too have spent many hours (probably more like days) in L.A. Cafe. I used to live above the laundry on Santa Monica between Del Pilar and Mabini. So stumbling home with a few too many on board was not too hard. I wouldn't recommend this to all. But I was treated differently living there.
About the only thing I don't like about L.A. Cafe is the massage guy ! I mean he's a nice enough guy and has strong hands but it just feels strange having the shoulder and neck kinks worked out by a dude.
FD
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BIG BS here!
[QUOTE=Dannah Mae]Above Average ladies, 18 - 20 yrs. old for private relaxation, massage and extra service.
"We only offer the best affordable rates"
Just give as a call or send me PM's
(0906-2215632)
Excuse Me:
[Look at makati reports]
Hoping you to be one of our satisfied client.
Dannah Mae[/QUOTE]
I'm sure all of us read the Makati section as well, but here are my thoughts on DM.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=403908#post403908[/url]
FF
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Thanks all for the praise
greetings,
thank you for everyone for the positive responses. maybe enuff said about the subject. whether you care or not is up to you. hope you had all fun kicking someone.
anyone can assess it for himself:
every night there are at least 2-3 guys walking around with girls that are clearly not more than 16-17 even allowing for the filipina youthful appearance. they are not very young, however young enough to make trouble.
the point is: they are 'illegal' and still they are allowed in. (i am not trying to preach. it's upto everyone's own conscience who they fuck. i am sure if it was legal to do it, a large number of subscribers to this forum would fuck them. what holds most men back is the law and not ethical reasons.)
however, potential trouble is there.
1. because you might pick one up because you believe she had been checked.
2. because anywhere there are **** cunts for hire (even if by a month), the 'do-gooders' will immediately turn up to wreak havoc, to close down places, etc.
and no, there are no id checks at entrance. only bag checks. sure. see it for yourself.
what police would do in the circumstance in this country is unpredictable and whatever happens it is still a hassle and unnecessary to a good holiday. there is horrendous poverty all over the streets and if anyone (even a cop) can make a quick buck on a tourist, so good for them.
what i am saying is that it would make it so much safer for all if the id checks were enforced, as at the moment they are not. if you are there and observe it, at least raise the issue with the guards or management.
by the way yes, the place seems well run, there is a general good atmosphere, but the whole la cafe is a potential fire trap and the dense cigarette smoke every night is irritating. however it is usually packed with quality meat, often even at early hours (bargains!). so, yes everyone make their own choice whether to visit or not.
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one disturbing thing about the filipinas is that they seem to be compulsive liars when it comes to business. much more so than thais. whether they are better for gf experience i don't know. (i have never actually had a gf yet.) but the many lies really put many guys off. i know because they told me.
on another forum i found a sort of checklist that may help some to get a better deal. print it out and make sure they understand and sign every line. in a/c some bars have signs saying: "no refund on barfines, choose carefully". so there must be some unhappy customers complaining.
filipina **** duties sheet
______________________________________________
name: _____________ ………………sign
age: _____________ ……………….sign
have id card? y / n (circle)
have kid? y / n (circle)
price: _____________ ………………sign
time: lt / st (circle) time(hrs)_____ ………….sign
blowjob: cbj / bbbj (circle) ……………sign
fuck: y / n (circle) ……………..sign
ass fuck: y / n (circle) …………..sign
condom: y / n (circle) ……………sign
kissing: y / n (circle) ……………..sign
_______________________________________________
note: in case of non-performance, limited payment will be made or if already paid, refund is applicable.
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Caveat emptor....
in a country where it's possible to buy almost anything, including phony or even "official" ids, there's no reassurance at all in checking a girl's documents. the only semi-sure way to avoid a hassle is to listen to your instincts and if that little voice in your head says: "she's ****!" listen to it, and look elsewhere. the morality of being with someone below the legal age is a compelling enough reason to avoid that particular temptation. if that does not work for you though, think about the fact that the newspapers here are replete with stories about foreigners "caught" with **** women, and there are groups here that like to make examples of such cases. you do not want to even think about the hassles and expense that would be incurred in such a case.
in a place like la cafe the ratio of women to men is probably 5:1 or higher, so it cannot be all that difficult to find someone who is appealing enough and old enough.
:d
ge
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Looking for female wrestling and or boxing.
I'll be in Manila next week and am trying to find somewhere to see girls wrestling or boxing. I spent a couple hours searching net and to my amazement could find nothing. Any info on chic fights anywhere in philippines would really be appreciated.
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Great Airfare To Manila
I just recieved notice from travelocity of a airfare from Denver to Manila roundtrip for $600.00 dollars on United. The flight times are actually decent as I called United. You fly from Denver to San Francisco with a short layover, then you fly into Hong Kong and fly to Manila on Philippine Air. You arrive at 11pm.
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Looking for female fights
Does anyone know where I can see live female wrestling or boxing in Manila or anywhere in Philippines?
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Dates?
[QUOTE=On The Go]I just recieved notice from travelocity of a airfare from Denver to Manila roundtrip for $600.00 dollars on United. The flight times are actually decent as I called United. You fly from Denver to San Francisco with a short layover, then you fly into Hong Kong and fly to Manila on Philippine Air. You arrive at 11pm.[/QUOTE]
Hey On The Go,
What were the dates on that? I always fly that route except I go LAX-SFO-HKG-MNL on United and PAL.
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Sugoi]Hey On The Go,
What were the dates on that? I always fly that route except I go LAX-SFO-HKG-MNL on United and PAL.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
travelocity farewatcherSM and air deals
From: To: Round-Trip**
Denver Santo Domingo $523+
Denver Puerto Vallarta $211+
Denver Phoenix $123+
Denver Minneapolis St. Paul $115+
Denver Manila $609+
The flights were using a "k" fare and were anytime between now and I believe the middle of January with a 2 week black out over Christmas. The best thing to do is call United because when I called travelocity they said the fares were not in there system and for me to contact United about it, so that is what I did. The actual fare I was given by United was @549.+
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Airfares
My two bits:
If your using the west coast hub cities (LAX, San Fran or Seattle) check out EVA Airs "Delux Class". Adds about $200 to their economy fare, but you get a much bigger seat and much better legroom. Important for some of us.
FD
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[QUOTE=Humble Turd]Greetings,
Anyone can assess it for himself:
Every night there are at least 2-3 guys walking around with girls that are clearly not more than 16-17 even allowing for the filipina youthful appearance. They are not VERY young, however young enough to make trouble.
The point is: they are 'illegal' and still they are allowed in. (I am not trying to preach. It's upto everyone's own conscience who they fuck. I am sure if it was legal to do it, a large number of subscribers to this forum would fuck them. What holds most men back is the law and not ethical reasons.)
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Age of consent laws in the Philippines are complicated. You do not reach full majority until 21. There are different laws for 18 to 21 year olds, 16 to 18 year olds, 14 to 16 year olds, and under 14.
From a practical standpoint you will never have any problems from the law if the girl is over 16. Maybe theoretically possible to be charged with a crime, but extreemly unlikely. However, since this board considers (and rightfully so) minors to be under 18, we of course should never discuss the subject of 16 and 17 year olds.
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Old ermita
First posting. I miss MH del Pilar street. Rosies dinner, firehouse, lovebirds, blue hawaii, beer garden, visions, cotton club, to name a few. Talking heads song, "cherry cherry". Mayor Lim did a really mess. I have been back since. LACafe(old rosies dinner, nipa hut), full of girls. Took a waitress out for fun. Good gfe. Only problem, I had to wait until her shift was over. If you like a waitress at LA cafe(which I think are cute and available), don't hasitate to ask them out. If they say no, there are plenty of fish(meat)to choose from. If you don't see what you want, take a taxi(Php 100 or so) to EDSA. You will find some of the old clubs(on ermita) there. Visions, is not in this complex, but somewhere on Roxas Boulevard. I met a few nice ladies there. I took two for fun. I was too drunk then. I enjoyed one before going to sleep, and one the next morning. It's so nice to wake up with two beautiful girls beside you. I stay at the Rothman Inn on Adriatico street everytime I go to Manila. I shall return to Manila in March to do some DATY, and to later go to the Provinces to meet many of my pen-pals(and hopefully do some DATY too).
Avioneto
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Just returned and visted the complex!
[QUOTE=Billpsu]I will be in Manila next month staying near the airport. Can someone give me information on the Entertainment Complex that has a number of bars. Names? Cost? Availability of private rooms? Etc.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
Went there one night ! hardly any customers and went to every club to check out all very friendly.
Price ladies drink 190 peso. girls are inexperinced as i found out chatting to some of them. most from provences Bicol etc.
Took 2 girls all night bar fine 1000 peso's the girls agreed to 1500 pesos each. they did not quote prices and asked what i would like to pay ! I said 1500 each till 9 am. experience was good and had lots of fun , doing both at same time from kiss one while fucking the other etc, did not ask for girl on girl action but fun in the shower with both of them at same time.
There was one girl who i nearly took was only 2 days and only been with her boyfriend, very sweet but did not want to teach her that night. best club was at end on right hand side with your back to the road. great place for quite time many to chosse from. no pressure once inside clubs, just the pressure to get you to go to their club. Where as firehouse too noisy many girls and pressure same quality of girls in both places, so if you want to chill at an easy pace yes thats the place to go. Caution wear Condom !! cos they told me some girls are not clean VD okay remeber rthey go once a week not everyday to be checked ok ! and as its cheap and not many clients i think locals go there.
Good luck
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Manila Situation
i will be in the philippines in december, first going to a/c.
i was planning on visiting manila. however, in asian newspapers (on-line) i have been reading about the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] of a philippine womem in subic by 5 us marines. has anyone experinced bad vibes toward americans as a result of this. should i skip manila?
any info would be appreciated.
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[quote=billpsu]i will be in the philippines in december, first going to a/c.
i was planning on visiting manila. however, in asian newspapers (on-line) i have been reading about the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] of a philippine womem in subic by 5 us marines. has anyone experinced bad vibes toward americans as a result of this. should i skip manila?
any info would be appreciated.[/quote]skip manila? why? there will be no problems for you.
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No
[quote=billpsu]i will be in the philippines in december, first going to a/c.
i was planning on visiting manila. however, in asian newspapers (on-line) i have been reading about the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] of a philippine womem in subic by 5 us marines. has anyone experinced bad vibes toward americans as a result of this. should i skip manila?
any info would be appreciated.[/quote]no,the greatest majority can tell the difference between a bad apple in a wagon of good apples
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For Billpsu and Porty
There are two entertainment complexes near the airport. Sincy Porty mentioned Firehouse, I assume he was at the one on EDSA Blvd. near the Roxas/EDSA intersection in Pasay. This is a really great place. If I have an early morning flight out of Manila, I stay at the Copacabana which is right across the street. Not the best hotel in the area, but has a nice pool.
There is another entertainment complex that is relatively unknown. It is right across from the Cebu Pacific Airline complex. Very quiet when I went there...girls standing outside trying to wave customers in. The bars are much smaller and less sophisticated (not sure if that is the right adjective to use) than EDSA Entertainment Complex, but certainly worth a vist. The few ladies I talked to seemed unwilling to do overnight because they actually lived with their families in the Manila area. There was one cutey who wouldn't go overnight, so I called her the next day and asked for an afternoon date. She said her mother required her to bring a chaperone. I declined, but maybe I shouldn't have! :-)
X Man
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Airport Bar Complex
Are there any VIP rooms in the airport bar complex (behind Cebu Pacific Blg)? I may not be able to use my hotel room.
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Billpsu and X man.
No VIP rooms there ok !! But many hotels for room around there , before you go ask taxi driver to take you to short time hotel close by. Check it out then you then you will have some where to go once you have been to the complex. Just a suggestion ! Okay.
[QUOTE=Billpsu]Are there any VIP rooms in the airport bar complex (behind Cebu Pacific Blg)? I may not be able to use my hotel room.[/QUOTE]
X man the mention of firehouse was in relation to the quality of the girls ! found both the same. I was talking about the new entertianment center across from the cebu pacific. Ok. So the information was all about the mew entertianment center. The main difference is one is very busy and you are hasseled ( Firehouse) the other is very quiet and you can just cruise. depends on what you want.
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Firehouse
Have to agree about the Firehouse, ala Potty; indeed, any of the EDSA bars. Its a hustle. They push you for drinks, girls etc. albeit in a Philippine way. In contrast to the gum-chewing USA way, its merely annoying and mostly lighthearted. But it is at odds with the generally sweet way of the filipina. That being said, I still think EDSA is the best bet for punters in Manila when considering the quality, price, health risks, fantasy factor etc. Generally I stay in Makati, but taxi to EDSA.
My last trip to the PI was in August. I didn't post because I had nothing to add. Upon arriving home, my wife asked for a divorce and we're going through that now and it will be final soon. Financially, I escaped. The trips to PI, Colombia, Thailand, Dominican Republic, Cuba, Brazil, Argentina, Venezuela, Cambodia, Vietnam etc finally took their toll, I guess. The 'scuba diving' excuse had a limited shelf life. And most 'normal' husbands go to Cancun and Florida anyway.
Prior, I had surmised feelings of great elation at the thought of being free; but its not so--at least not for me. Maybe its just a brief case of ennui, and probably I'm coming out of it because I notice that lately, I'm constantly thinking of the PI. Yeah, thats it.
I'm curious if any other guys have had a marriage end because of mongering activity. My wife and I got/get along great, in fact, I've banged her several times since she dropped the bombshell. She hasn't really verbalized it but I get the feeling that she couldn't continue to share me with all the hos in the aforementioned countries.
Continuing with this self-absorbed post: I wasted a month on Match and Yahoo Personals. Meeting up with late thirties white females. Discussing real estate opportunities; bonding over our mutual losses in the stock market in '00 and discussing childrearing. Meeting these women in restaurants in Midtown and sharing etc. What a crock of shit. At the end of the day, I dream of banging the sweet, young beauties of BKK and MNL. Just like I did before.
For a couple of months, I didn't even read the board. But I returned. And lo and behold! a revelation. I discover that its the board that endures, that thrives and continues--and its the marriages that often wither and die. I had mistakenly assumed the opposite.
Should be in the PI in a month or so, and looking forward to it.
Don
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Don I am going in the opposit direction !
I am nearly 50 and never been married ! but I get married to one in Cebu, But i will continue my mongering. she wants to get married and its cool but she kbows that i will never bring her to my country, and when i retire i will live there. She knows what i am like and does get jealous but she has to accept my way of life, Its cool cos she wants child so last trip we started to try for a child, I rent an appartment in Lapu Lapu and it works out cheaper for a years rent, than a months hotel bill.
there is nothing like having 2 little darlinga doing everything you wish for 7 hours, and to think it only cost 100 dollars! gee thats the same cost for a night out at a restaraunt and drinks here. then all the bullshit of talking about shit. Then you end up being called a player or womaniser if you try to sleep with them, then they expect you to call them next day I am refering to the ladies here in the western world.
I mean it only cost me 900 dollars for the plane from australia to manila, so hey even for a long weekend i might visit just to clean my pipes!
As i can have 2 nights in manila and 2 in cebu . I can always sleep on the plane and when i get back!
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[QUOTE=Tbm Fan]Skip Manila? Why? There will be no problems for you.[/QUOTE]
I saw some pictures of the protesting women and they appeared to be mainly muslim. hmmm?
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Airport Entertainment Complex
On the subject of the bar complex accross from Cebu Pacific Airlines; next time I'm at the airport, I would like to check out the bars during my layover. Is there a place I can stash my luggage for several hours?
Thanks,
Mattrick
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Insightful post Dashing Don
I just got back from 3 months in Pi, mostly spent in Cebu. My wife is Filipina and I was able to get away alone in Cebu and Dumaguete for 6 weeks. I counted 17 girls in all I slept with, 10 of whom I met through chat. I told my wife I needed a retreat and she reluctantly agreed.
Now back In the USA things are normal except I miss the girl I met at the end..#17. No attachments otherwise and life is back to normal. How I miss those smiling cuties.
One interesting experience I had was when my wife and I were at a hotel in Cebu and twas her last day there until she went back to Mindanao to be with her family. I was outside and I saw a cutie (#4) walking to our Hotel and was checking her out. Later that day I was sitting in the lobby screwing around with my new cell phone when I realized i did not save it's number in the address book. I glanced to my right and there she was sitting a few feet away. So I had an idea how I could get my number and at the same time get hers. I asked her if I could call her cell so I could see my number. She agreed and I of course had her number. (A great way to get a girls number guys).
So the wife is still upstairs in the Hotel and after #4 left I sent a text to her and asked was she staying at my hotel? She said she was not and was visiting an old German man whom she did not like and was upset with because he wanted a threesome with her and her sister. I asked her where she was staying and she said another hotel nearby.
I then asked if could come visit her in her Hotel and she agreed. It turned out her and her sister were just on vacation here in Cebu and she had met this guy through a friend. She did not sleep with this man though and was trying to escape his advances.
Her story: 6 months prior was an entertainer in japan. I assumed she was having sex for pay there but she said in her case no and said she did not go home with the men and only sang and danced. I thought they all went with the guys there,but maybe that's not the case. That aside she was no virgin as I was to later find out.
So now it's time to go to her hotel. It was the next day and her sister had gone back to Manila. She stayed behind and the fun began. Let me describe her: 20 yrs, body like a 5 ft barbie doll, dyed reddish hair, chocolate skin, long red nails and a potty mouth with handful tits. We banged hard and her agressiveness turned me on.
After that I went back to my hotel and waited for the clock then saw my wife off to the ocean jet to Mindanao. I was the proverbial cat who ate the canary on this one..heheheh.
#4 left 2 days later after further shagging. I used my Im sick excuse and was ready to move on. No money did she ever ask for. How often can you find a freebie like that in the USA?
Punishment for my sins: I GOT AN STD ! Don't know for sure who I got from though. Damn, it really slowed me down and hurt like a mother. I went to cebu doctors and got antibiotics which eventually knocked it out. It came and went though and I was still able to monger off and on with a condom this time. Guys be careful, there is some nasty stuff out there even from the supposed "good" girls I met in chat. I Also got HEAD LICE ! But thats another story...
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Just Pussy
Don,
Sorry to hear of your loss. After all it's just pussy;-)
Peskadot
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Manila in January
I'll be in Manila on Tuesday, January 17 and leave on Sunday, January 22 and hope to meet up with any members who happen to be in town. This invite also includes members who supposedly, have multiple IDs!
Yes, its true! There's an amnesty during this period for multiple ID ers.
I'll gladly 'belly up to the bar' at LA or anywhere else and buy those budget-busting San Miguels for members who have:
A sense of humor.
Story-telling ability: Monger storys, of course. As in: "I banged 735 broads in the last year, but that ONE broad in Robinsons got away......(Other mongers naturally voice concern,--- "Say what?)
Passports that tell stories. (The seventy five stamps from Cancun Airport doesn't count)
Even Junior is welcome (please be well-groomed and sociable)
Prior to that, I spend 5 days in Bangkok, getting ready for Manila.
Don
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Too bad. I'm missing you by a week.
[QUOTE=Dashing Don]I'll be in Manila on Tuesday, January 17 and leave on Sunday, January 22 and hope to meet up with any members who happen to be in town. This invite also includes members who supposedly, have multiple IDs!
Yes, its true! There's an amnesty during this period for multiple ID ers.
Don[/QUOTE]I'll be arriving the 27th of Jan and will be in Manila (Makati) for about 8 days. Maybe next time.
Over and out,
Guinness
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Manila
I will be in Manila on December 12th, will be staying for a few days. Anyone want to meet up for a beer.
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hotels in makati
Its hard to book a hotels in Makati this week. Anyone give me suggest hotels on 28 nov 4 nights?
Thank you!
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[QUOTE=Danny 2003]Its hard to book a hotels in Makati this week. Anyone give me suggest hotels on 28 nov 4 nights?
Thank you![/QUOTE]You're just in middle of the South East Asian Games then, which means its more difficult to get a room. You could try AIM and Astor hotel at [url]www.asiatravel.com[/url] ... last time i checked they still had some rooms available. And depending on your budget the more expensive hotels probably still got some rooms left.
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Poppyseed
What was the total cost of your trip?
Can you say what STD it was?
If I don't want to meet hard cores , where can I go in Manilla?
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[QUOTE=White Wolf]You're just in middle of the South East Asian Games then, which means its more difficult to get a room. You could try AIM and Astor hotel at [url]www.asiatravel.com[/url] ... last time i checked they still had some rooms available. And depending on your budget the more expensive hotels probably still got some rooms left.[/QUOTE]
Bad news,Astor is an official SEA games hotel,But AIM has rooms,I currently have a tour group with 40 people placed there.Forget City Garden or Oxford also,they are official hotels also
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Hi Luicio
Total cost of my trip : A SHIT LOAD ! I was there 3 months and made a big purchase for my wifes family. I also spent more time in Hotels in the city than I had planned due to extreme boredom in the province: No internet, crappy cable and no nightlife drove me again and again back to the city. I would say I spent roughly 10,000 usd. minus the big purchase.
Most of the girls I slept with were not pro's and I spent like I would on a normal date. I treated them well but I lied like crazy to play the game and have as many expeiences as possible. I did my best not to hurt anyone emotionally and for the most part I suceeded.
I asked the Doc when I got my tests results and he said the good news was that it was not Chlymidia. sp? Apparently for men this is a really nasty STD. He said if I wanted to know specifically what it was they would need to analyze it more in the lab to pinpoint it. He just said it was an STD, not super serious, and gave me some antibiotics. I was satisfied and did not ask for further analysis. There is alot of crap out there and I had some mega pain in my cock. The antibiotics were hell too.
As far as Manila, try the chat rooms. IRC is good, then shift them to yahoo messenger so you can use a cam. Of course there are always the malls. Looks help, but even if your not so goodlooking you can have success. Spamhog has some good advice in the Cebu section. As he said just be patient and let things unfold naturally. Out of the girls I pursued only a few were duds and I attribute that to patience with a laid back wait and see attitude.
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[QUOTE=Poppyseed]
I asked the Doc when I got my tests results and he said the good news was that it was not Chlymidia. sp? Apparently for men this is a really nasty STD. He said if I wanted to know specifically what it was they would need to analyze it more in the lab to pinpoint it. He just said it was an STD, not super serious, and gave me some antibiotics. I was satisfied and did not ask for further analysis. There is alot of crap out there and I had some mega pain in my cock. The antibiotics were hell too. [/QUOTE]
I'm no Doctor, but I have been treated for Chlamydia before. Caught it a long time ago before I had ever heard of the Philippines. Nice girl from school gave it to me. It was not serious at all as long as you catch it in time, which I think is the case for all STD's with some being more serious than others. Chlamydia as well as other STD's may have no symptoms at all, so it is wise to have yourself tested if you think you may have put yourself at risk.
I would think any STD's that would cause the type of pain you described is much more serious than a common STD or the Chlamydia type. I would have it looked at further if I were you.
There are internet services that you can use to do blood test like [url]http://www.preventivelabs.com/[/url]
I have seen others available that give more privacy if that is important. Do an internet search and you should find them.
FF
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Manila gems
for the record, this is my first post to isg. i have been benifiting from reading the forum for many years and wish to express my appreciation to all contributors. usually, i do not feel that i can contribute new information from my experiences although some are good and entertaining stories.
in the case of my trip to manila, i did my usual research by reading several pages of posts, making notes to carry with me. i had noted some bar names including of course, la cafe. upon initiating a conversation with a taxi driver comming from the airport, i got the impression that this was someone with alot of pride in knowing where to take visitors.
the first stop, after check in at the manila hotel, was a strip club type of place on roxas. this was a mistake perhaps caused by me not being clear enough about what i was looking for exactly. i did not record the name of the joint. i was the only one in there (it was 7pm). they pushed a couple of girls up on the stage for me and the mamsan sat down next to me. she was quoting 10,000 to take a girl home and was willing to go to 8,000. she had a big speech about a grade and b grade and other bs. i left promptly after paying 2,000 for 2 jwb on the rocks. i felt violated and discouraged.
after explaining to jose (the taxi driver) that all i wanting was a no bs girl-in- my-hotel arrangement because i had to leave early the next day for another island in pi, he took me to the perfect place. no name for the place. no signs. not too far from roxas. we got out of the car and walked toward a tailoring (sewing) shop. but as i approached the door, i was directed to another door six or so feet to the left that was obscured by tall bushes. i entered into a small room, the first door closed and a second door opened in front of me. i entered a large, well lit room with couches arranged in a "stadium" fashion. on these couches, there was no less than 50 girls, smiling and calling out to me. selecting was difficult as there were so many beauties. i did select and she went to change.
back in the small room, i handed a guy 3000 and went to wait in the cab. the girl was a great choice. i look for 20-24 in age, thin, and happy looking. the younger ones tend to be too shy and not as competent imo. she stayed the night and did the usual expected stuff.
i only had one more night in manila on my reuturn from other areas of pi. that was a sunday and i heard that many places were closed. i called jose and we went to la cafe. i was not impressed at all. more guys than girls and the quality was poor. based on what i have read here, i can only blame that on the fact that it was sunday.
so i told jose to take me to some other places he knew. we went to 2 other places that were very simular to the "sewing shop" on the first night athough they had less selection. i ended up getting greedy and taking two girls back to manila hotel for 3k each. the girls were good and sweet but shy about being together. i finally sent one home and kept one untill morning. the girl that left early had to call her manager on her cell and i had to give verbal permission for her to leave. this, to me, indicates good management and a tight ship.
overall, i was very happy with my two nights in manila and wanted to shared them with you. the deciding factor in posting this was that jose specifically asked me to share his contact information on the internet. he knows these places with no name and would like to drive other foreigners to them. he speaks perfect english and i ended up giving him 300-400 per night which he was happy with. his number is 0919-7532139. he also offered to introduce me to his non-pro nieghbor who had expressed interest in marrying a foreigner.
also, quickly i can also recomend manilla hotel near risa park on roxas. i did not check in the girls and there was never any static. the rooms have nice veiws of the park or the port of manilla.
the girls i met were also picture friendly and i will post some in the picture forum in the next day or so.
take care,
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[QUOTE=Verde99]For the record, this is my first post to ISG. I have been
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Overall, I was very happy with my two nights in Manila and wanted to shared them with you. The deciding factor in posting this was that Jose specifically asked me to share his contact information on the internet. He knows these places with no name and would like to drive other foreigners to them. He speaks perfect english and I ended up giving him 300-400 per night which he was happy with. His number is 0919-7532139. He also offered to introduce me to his non-pro nieghbor who had expressed interest in marrying a foreigner.
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Verde,
Great FR. Thanks for Jose's number!
I arrived in Manila Sunday night, and had occassion to call Jose last night. Unfortunately, due to his waiting at the airport for a passenger, he wasn't able to come to my hotel (Hyatt Regency on Roxas) till nearly 1am.
First stop was the place you mention with 40-50 girls. Unfortunately we arrived just as a black out occurred, and too difficult to pick out what I wanted by candle. I also thought their asking of 5000 pesos too high, and even felt the 3000 quickly reverted to was too high... could be that I couldn't see how truly beautiful the girls were?
At any rate, I asked Jose to take me someplace else. We ended up at a small place on a corner, couldn't see a name. There were about 6 or 7 girls; I picked Maui, a 19 year old Visayan from Leyte. Cute face, nice, perfect tits and a great ass. I gave mamasan 2000 pesos, what she asked for (maybe I could've bargained, but I felt 2000 was reasonable).
While I won't say she was great, she didn't do anything objectionable, and after two weeks of working in the lands of the Great White Whales (England and Australia), little brother was looking for some Asian comfort. After 3 goes, he was pretty happy. Had to wake her for the last two, and she wasn't all that eager, but once little brother slid in, she quickly seemed to get more interested.
I'm here another couple of days, then it's back to my Bangkok apartment. Thanks again, Verde!
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Is Tee It Up a Serial Antagonist?
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Thanks,
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Christmas???
Hello,
If anyone needs a wingman, send me a pm.
Manila / AC area 12.20 till 12.27 and then Cebu 12.27 to 01.05.06. I might make some side trips out of Cebu: Dumaguete, Bohol, Surigao come to mind...
Question:
Where would YOU go for Christmas, AC or MLA? I've been to both places before and have a few contacts in each place. I'm leaning toward Manila, but would like to hear your suggestions.
X
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update Manila EDsa Entertainmentcomplex
Hi to all,
Arrived yesterday in Manila, stayed at Copacobana Hotel Pasay, just crossed the street (very fast :D) and went to the Entertainment complex. Firehouse was the best. Barfined a girl from Cebu. Barfine was 1000 p, plus the damage for the girl. I did one mistake and didnt talk to her before, stronglz advise, she ask for 3000p and I gave her that, she promised me to come over next day before start working..I declined cause Im here for the 3 FFF. More gurls to go.
Copacabana Hotel is a gud place to stay, hotel costs me about 1800 pesos.
I'm now in angels city and checkin the bars, comin gback with an upate in ac section.
Happy hunting!
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Manila
[QUOTE=X Man]Hello,
If anyone needs a wingman, send me a pm.
Manila / AC area 12.20 till 12.27 and then Cebu 12.27 to 01.05.06. I might make some side trips out of Cebu: Dumaguete, Bohol, Surigao come to mind...
Question:
Where would YOU go for Christmas, AC or MLA? I've been to both places before and have a few contacts in each place. I'm leaning toward Manila, but would like to hear your suggestions.
Manila,Since Many AC girls go home for the holidays
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Need more research on Fishbowls...
I spent only about two nights in Manila last week, after first spending about four nights in AC. I was generally disappointed with Manila. I stayed at the Copacabana Apartments right across from the EDSA Entertainment Complex.
I traveled with a buddy from AC, and used the shuttle service booked through Central Park Hotel in AC for 2700 pesos. The driver was excellent, making the trip in 1.5 hours from AC...that's possibly record time for AC to Manila.
The first night we visited EDSA and came away with sticker shock. The girls were HOT, but the bar fine and girl's compensation is very expensive compared to AC. So, we decided to exit EDSA early, and to explore LA Cafe and Makati instead.
Since our access to internet was limited from Copacabana, my buddy and I decided that to try to research the boards concerning the delights of Makati would be difficult and tiring. We checked some of the archived stuff on his computer, but didn't find a lot of encouraging information relative to where to go in Makati.
I'm sure there is detail on the board, but we would have had to go to the internet shop to find it, and with the rainy, shitty weather, we were not sufficiently motivated to do so. We did have detail on the Airport Entertainment Center, but most of the reported information indicated that it was priced the same as EDSA.
On the first night, after visiting EDSA for about an hour and being disappointed in the price structure. We decided to explore LA Cafe. While on the way through Ermita to LA Cafe, our taxi driver pointed out a couple of bars that he said were much better than LA Cafe. But, since we hadn't visited LA Cafe, we were insistent on going there, not knowing if our driver was being motivated by the prospect of commissions or not. In retrospect, we realize that he was probably being straight with us. That's why we were hoping to go with him the second night so we could give him another chance to take us the places he had tried to recommend the night before. Unfortunately, he would be unavailable the second night.
We visited LA Cafe, and were relatively disappointed in the quality of selection there. It consisted of mostly older girls, and a relatively high percentage of fuglies. We did not stay very long, maybe a half hour, because we were simply unimpressed. We were repeatedly hit on, but decided that there may be better quality of selection elsewhere...not sure where, but LA Cafe did not push any buttons for us. We did not even get far enough in conversation with the girls to discuss their fees, and have no idea what they routinely charge. But, it would not have mattered as, IMHO, the selection was very mediocre. It was a rainy, nasty night, and perhaps only the starving fugly/older bar girls were out in force.
After being relatively disappointed with LA Cafe, I inquired with our driver about whether there were any decent Fish Bowls in Manila. He informed us that there were several good ones, and that there was one not too far from LA Cafe. He told us it was not his first choice, but it was close by.
Our taxi driver took us to the Fish Bowl located not too far from LA Cafe, probably less than five minutes away. It was a "Hole in the Wall" kind of place, with no markings or signage on it. It was not really a Fish Bowl, but rather a small, dirty room with opposing couches on either side of the room. When you arrive, the girls, about 15 of them, all file in and take a seat on the couch, where they wave and smile to entice you to select them. There were only three or four of them that appealed to us. But, we were running out of time, and we decided to go ahead and make a selection.
Later the next day, from another taxi driver, we learned that we can negotiate the Fish Bowl rates down to between $1500-$2000 pesos. That first night, as I said, my buddy and I selected two girls from the fish bowl. Both girls were cute, and both of them turned out to be really excellent GFE's. I meant to get the address information of the Fish Bowl for the board, but forgot to do so that night, fully intending to get details from the taxi driver the next day. Unfortunately, we were never able to hook up with the driver the next day, and the details of the Fish Bowl location are unknown to me at this juncture...Sorry.
Our intention for the following night was to call our trusted driver, and to use him to scope out the remaining Fish Bowls the second night. But, the following day, when we called him, he told us he was off duty. So, we figured we would have to start from scratch again, and hope that we could find a driver that was sufficiently hip as to know his way to the good Fish Bowls.
Anyway, because I was relatively disappointed in Manila, except for the Fish Bowl experience, I decided that I could still make it to AC for some fun that third night. I had to fly out of AC anyway for Singapore to return home the next day, and my buddy's return flight was out of Manila around noon the next day. So, I made an executive decision to go for the lazy man's alternative, that being the sure thing, to revisit AC that third night instead of remaining in Manila to complete my research on the Fish Bowl scene.
Because the trusted taxi driver was not available, I was doubtful that I would be able to find another driver in a timely manner, that is, enough of a timely manner to effectively scope out all the Fish Bowls in Manila in the one remaining night left. I just decided that rather than stay in Manila, where it was shitty weather (rainy), I would just use the time in the early evening that third night to take a taxi to AC, where I hoped I could find a girl for the night with plent of time to spare. I also felt that if I were in AC that night, then I could make it to the Clark Airport in a more leisurely manner the next day than from Manila.
Also, the noise level form the roadways was really very loud for me at Copacabana. I was on the 10th floor, and for some reason, there was a significant amount of horn blowing and traffic noise all day and night long. I noticed that my buddy's room on the fourth floor was seemingly much quieter, perhaps because there are other buildings around the lower floors that absorb the noise better. So, for me, the prospect of spending the night in Copacabana one more night was not appealing, and if I was going to go to the effort of repacking to change rooms, then I decided that I might as well pack up and just head for AC early.
One thing that convinced me to return to AC early from Manila was the price structure of Manila compared to AC, especially the bar fines in EDSA. My trip buddy and I were quoted a 1000 peso bar fine by the Mamasan at one of the bars there, the place with the automobile motif, which would have been perfectly acceptable, but the girl my buddy wanted told him that 1000 pesos is just the bar fine. She told him that she charges 3000 pesos in addition to the cost of the bar fine. So, for this particular girl, he was quoted a 1000 peso bar fine, plus a 3000 peso girl's fee, which would have made a 4000 peso total "bar fine."
We were told that the bar fine was about the same in all the clubs, and I guess perhaps we may have jumped to conclusions about what the actual negotiated reality is for EDSA including bar fines, girl's fee, plus tips. I'm sure the bar fine and girl's fees probably vary depending on the girl. The girl he was negotiating with was really HOT, and probably commanded a slightly higher bar fine. But, generallly the cost at EDSA is pretty high compared to AC.
Frankly, we were anxious to get out of EDSA after visiting only one of the bars, because we noticed that lady's drinks were very high, 350 pesos, and because the place was so empty, you are literally attacked by hordes of bar girls looking for drinks, tips for massage, tips for hot towels, tips for cold towels, photos, flowers, nuts, tips for photos, tips for flowers, and tips for nuts, and anything frickin' else they could think of, etc., etc, etc...and we even felt compelled to tip the fuckwads out front who helped us out of our taxi with an umbrella to the door of the complex, and back again. It was raining when we arrived, and we just accepted their "kindness" on the way to the door, thinking it was the EDSA Complex offering good customer relations...I know, we should have known better, AND DO!!!
I guess we were scared off by all the tipping, high drink prices, and then to be quoted a 4000 peso "bar fine," inclusive, we just assumed the entire EDSA Complex was like that. In reading the archives we had on computer about the newest other alterntive, the "EDSA-Like" airport venue, we also got that same impression, that there is an expectation for a sizeable girl's fee, plus bar fine, plus tip. That is, 1500-3000 pesos for the girl, over and above the 1000 peso bar fine. The way it was presented to us, the bar fine is strictly that, a bar fine, and not meant as compensation for the girl. That is the main important distinction to take note of when comparing AC versus Manila. In AC, the bar fine amount is inclusive, and the only additional cost is if you choose to tip or not.
One taxi driver informed us that he only makes about 250 pesos a day from driving his taxi in Manila, after expenses, inclucing taxi rent, gasoline, etc...Knowing what the taxi driver makes puts everything in perspective, and helps you to realize just how much money the girls are sometimes making if they get $1000-$3000 pesos as their share of the bar fine in EDSA. Of course there are almost no competing customers in EDSA, so who knows how often they are fortunate enough to find a bar fine. And, who knows if those ridiculous bar fines in EDSA can be negotiated down sufficiently to be attractive to the average AC monger.
I say the EDSA prices are riciculous, but really, I had considered just paying the bar fine there in EDSA and staying the night in Manila because the girls ARE really HOT. I mean we are talking a wopping $55 roughly, and I have paid almost three times that in Monterrey for only 2 hours. But, for some reason, I just had a desire to return to AC, and especially to scope out Perimeter Road once again.
Of course, based on what normal people make in Manila, I imagine you could bargain the girls down to a reasonable amount, maybe even 500-1000 pesos plus bar fine, but even at that, we were feeling reluctant that to bargain them down too low might detract from our overall GFE experience with them. So, we got cold feet over both of the Entertainment venues, EDSA and the Airport, and we had hoped more optomistically for better at LA Cafe...NOT!
We later learned from the taxi driver that there is also a relatively decent Fish Bowl scene in Manila as well. After we had visited LA Cafe, and decided we were relatively disappointed with it, we asked the taxi driver about Fish Bowls in the area. He said there were several in Manila. We decided to explore a Fish Bowl that was close, near LA Cafe. We actually found a couple of girls in the fish bowl that we liked, so we bar fined them.
The fishbowl did cost us 3000 pesos each for all night. We were originally quoted 4000 pesos, but negotiated that down to 3000 pesos with no detrimental effects to the GFE quality. Fact is, the girls were both really great GFE's.
We eventually concluded that if the fishbowls cost 3000 pesos, that apparently the girls at EDSA, who are better looking and have hotter and tighter bodies, would surely command at least slightly more, if not a lot more. So, the quoted 4000 peso total amount quoted for all nighters out of EDSA seemed consistent when compared with the fishbowl, which might even be available for 1500-2000 pesos if negotiated properly.
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Negotiating
Well, sponge bob, thanks for the information...despite all the winging.
My rule of thumb for negotiating is offer half of what they ask for and then go from there. And do this a few times to get an idea of what the "normal" cost is. But now that I know the normal cost at EDSA, I don't even talk money. Don't think I've ever paid more than 1500 at EDSA, except for the times the lady spent the entire next day with me.
Yes, I also feel frustrated when I have to spend my valuable vacation time trying to find out the "normal" price of things. But, that's just one of the things that makes our trips so interesting.
X Man
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Copacabana
Spongebob complains about noise at Cobacabana.
Always ask to see the room before you hand over your money.
This hotel is across from EDSA and is a good place if you are on a budget and have a morning flight. It has a nice pool. Avoid rooms that face the front if possible...especially if you are a light sleeper.
And every time I go there I end up paying for a bottle of water that I didn't consume. "Sir, is it possible your guest had a bottle of water."
X Man
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Unospongebob 1
My trip buddy and I were quoted a 1000 peso bar fine by the Mamasan at one of the bars there, the place with the automobile motif, which would have been perfectly acceptable, but the girl my buddy wanted told him that 1000 pesos is just the bar fine. She told him that she charges 3000 pesos in addition to the cost of the bar fine. So, for this particular girl, he was quoted a 1000 peso bar fine, plus a 3000 peso girl's fee, which would have made a 4000 peso total "bar fine."
Frankly, we were anxious to get out of EDSA after visiting only one of the bars, because we noticed that lady's drinks were very high, 350 pesos, and because the place was so empty, you are literally attacked by hordes of bar girls looking for drinks, tips for massage, tips for hot towels, tips for cold towels, photos, flowers, nuts, tips for photos, tips for flowers, and tips for nuts, and anything frickin' else they could think of, etc., etc, etc...and we even felt compelled to tip the fuckwads out front who helped us out of our taxi with an umbrella to the door of the complex, and back again. It was raining when we arrived, and we just accepted their "kindness" on the way to the door, thinking it was the EDSA Complex offering good customer relations...I know, we should have known better, AND DO!!!
I was there in October ! Just be strong and say no to all at the start of entering the club. Just hold back and watch everytime they come up say no ! that way they will no u mean business ! then after you choose the girl you will be ok ! The ld cosy was 190 peso's for me ! So it means they where trying to rip you off as maybe they thought you where a newbee !
Bar fine yes 1000 peso ! but i had to girls and was just really nice and told them they get presents for good job too ! Bar of chocolate and shell jewelery as u had samples from my manufacture with me. They came for all night till 9 am in morning for 1500 peso each ! so with the bar fine and tip cost for 2 girls was 5000 peso's. No taxi fare either and only one ld ! so i think thats okay but if i only took 1 girl then cost is only 2500 all night !
Maybe the girl though she could charge that much ! But you know so many girls there and so little customers I would say 10 girls to every man. Also i had another girl say she will meet me after work so no bar fine and only 1000 peso but i was not interested in her !
The other reason is sometimes the girls and the man click ! So when that happens the price id right ! If the girl does not click with you then she will want premium price and most likely the service will be only average !
Same ols story , The more beautiful the worse the service ! Just like when we where teenages ! the average girls put out and great sex< the beautiful ones said no as they could pick and choose.
Sorry that you did not like edsa , but remember dont judge a book by its cover !!
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edsa
Good post Porty,
The ending is especially important. If you're fugly, you'll have to pay full fare. Same thing if you treat them badly, or start a conversation by asking for special services and negotiating fees.
I know some people swear that this is important, and if you require special services then I guess it makes sense.
I treat them like a girlfriend, and I often get gfe back...which includes lower costs. In most cases I never talk money and never pass money. I slip a bill or two into their bags while they are in the shower.
BTW, I'm no stud-muffin. Middle aged, bald, a few pounds overweight...but I pulled a 28 year old Japanese computer progarmmer last week. I'm sure you guys could care less, but as Porty points out, how you look and act will affect your success.
X Man
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Manila hotels
Listed below are some of the hotels I've stayed at in Manila. Does anyone have any different recommendations for rooms below 3000?
I'd especially like to stay in the Malate area.
Also, on the bay, has anyone stayed at the Bayview. Listed at $40 on the Internet right now
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MLA
Citadel //citadel-inn-makati.com
Aug 2005 about 1400 per night with Cebu Pacific discount, not recommended, slow elevators /
Swagman in MLA
I looked at a room and decided I didn't want to stay there.
Copacabana Apt. / Hotel
Aug 05 about 2000 - 2600 per night / 200 for safety box
add on for water? / poor service / nice pool / near airport / near EDSA
Las Palmas [email]sales@laspalmashotel.com.ph[/email]
07.05 2000 pesos / good service / Ermita
Palm Plaza / [url]www.palmplazahotel.com[/url] / 632 524-8384
about 2000 pesos / good service / Ermita
Cherry Blossoms Hotel: on a lane to the north of Robinson mall
550 J. Bocobo Ext. Ermita
1250 a day, but avoid 2nd floor
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Bayview is crap and decrepit. I would not stay there. Palm Plaza is okay. My favourite is Executive Plaza. If you book thru Action Travel in Angeles thru the web or telephone, you can get a room at 1,500 pesos. Nice hotel, rooms are large and clean and less than 5 minutes from LA Cafe, G Point, etc. Very girl friendly.
[url]http://www.actiontravelac.com/[/url]
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Hotels in Manila
Thanks DF,
I once did a walk in at Executive. The suggested a standard for 2000. I looked at a room, but there was only one small window. Other rooms may be different:
[url]www.executiveplazahotel.com[/url]
Now here's a place that looks too good to be true. Near Paco Park, with swimming pool for about 2000. Has anyone stayed at Paco Park Oasis?
[url]www.parkoasis.com[/url]
I did a walk in on this place and liked it. Hotel Kimberly. This is across the street from the U of P. I remember being suprised because it seemed like such a bargain. Around 2000, nicely appointed, clean, lots of natural light.
[url]www.hotelkimberly.com[/url]
X Man
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Hi X-Man,
I'm surprised you did not like Executive Plaza. I guess I lucked out and got a good room.
Similar thing happened to me with Best Western La Corona just up from LA Cafe. I got a real crappy room with dark hardwood floors that made it look gloomy and bathroom where you had to stand on the john to open and close the door. On my way out I noticed the maid making up an adjacent room. It had marble floors, a newer bed and larger bathroom. The room was also much larger than mine. I enquired and she said it was a double room, same as mine.
I asked to be changed and they said all the rooms were spoken for. Next morning I was pissed as only half the rooms had newspapers outside so I knew the hotel was not full. That's when I moved to Executive Plaza.
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[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]
One thing that convinced me to return to AC early from Manila was the price structure of Manila compared to AC, especially the bar fines in EDSA. My trip buddy and I were quoted a 1000 peso bar fine by the Mamasan at one of the bars there, the place with the automobile motif, which would have been perfectly acceptable, but the girl my buddy wanted told him that 1000 pesos is just the bar fine. She told him that she charges 3000 pesos in addition to the cost of the bar fine. So, for this particular girl, he was quoted a 1000 peso bar fine, plus a 3000 peso girl's fee, which would have made a 4000 peso total "bar fine."
Frankly, we were anxious to get out of EDSA after visiting only one of the bars, because we noticed that lady's drinks were very high, 350 pesos, and because the place was so empty, you are literally attacked by hordes of bar girls looking for drinks, tips for massage, tips for hot towels, tips for cold towels, photos, flowers, nuts, tips for photos, tips for flowers, and tips for nuts, and anything frickin' else they could think of, etc., etc, etc...and we even felt compelled to tip the fuckwads out front who helped us out of our taxi with an umbrella to the door of the complex, and back again.
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The mistake you made was only visiting one bar in EDSA. To the average person, all the bars are the same, with a bunch of similar women in each. However, after visiting EDSA maybe 50 times over the past 9 months, you realize that every bar is in fact quite different. For example, Out of the 50 or so visits, I have had maybe 40 girls (I sometimes come away empty handed). Of those 40 girls, not a single one came from Pit Stop (the one bar you visited). I would break it down to about:
12 - Bullets and Arrows
10 - Cotton Club
8 - Firehouse
7 - Space Girls
3 - Casino
1 - Samba
1 - VIP Room
0 - Pitstop
So it is clear from the above list that not all bars are the same. I would say that any regular would have a similar breakdown, but the bars would be different. There might be someone who has taken 10 from Pitstop and not a single girl from Bullets, because that person tends to like the pitstop girls better. Personally, I don't really know why I have never taken a girl from Pitstop, but I just never found anyone I liked there. And now, I usually just skip the place (along with Samba and VIP) as I have had such bad luck.
Also, the bars change alot. Somtimes a strong bar will for some reason become the pits, and lousy bars will all of a sudden become filled with hot chicks. For example, up until about 3 months ago, I had not had a single girl from the cotton club. I usually just passed on the place as it was so weak. Then, all of a sudden, it was filled with hotties. Why? Don't know or care. And there was a one week period when I had three girls from Bullets. The bar was just amazing. But right now, bullets is weak and have only found about one girl in the last month.
There is no reason to only visit one bar when you visit EDSA. Just go into 3 or 4 bars, buy a coke in each one, and the total damage will be about $6. Only buy a ladies drink when you think you see a girl you really like. I know all the people wanting a tip or for you to buy something can be a hassle, but you have to learn to just ignore them. For me its just background noise and doesn't bother me in the slightest.
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Hook up?
Just arrived in Manila today; staying at Shangri-La in Makati for a couple of days, then on to Cebu. Any of you dogs want to hook up? PM me if interested.
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I stayed at Executive Plaza twice this fall - both times had nice rooms on the 9th floor. The service was excellent but I really can't comment on the size of the window. Windows just aren't important to me.
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Paco Park Oasis
Stayed there 3 nights in 2003. It was OK, interesting rooms but all painted a glossy dark tan, even the built in wooden closets. Opt for one of the Deluxe Rooms or above if you stay there. Food was good, pool was OK, big hassle was traffic - you have to cross UN Ave to get to Robinson's Galleria and Malate/Ermita. Traffic issue was so bad that it puts the Nix on Paco Park for future stays for us.
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Pan Pacific
If you've got $90/Night to spend, it rivals some of the best hotels I've stayed at. First time I stayed there was 1/7/01, with my then fiance (now wife), we were blown away by the room. 2nd time was Black Thursday (Thurs before Good Friday) and the barbershop across the street was on fire. Same size room, but way downscale, almost dingy. Since half the hotel staff was helping to fight the fire from the3rd floor roof, I just accepted the room. I would ask to see the room first before signing in to make sure that you got one of the good ones.
Cherry Blossoms Hotel, on J. Bocobo St., just down the street from St Luke's Extension and right across the street from Robinson's was "good" at about P1,500 per night, free "OK" breakfast. Good if your fiance is going for her exam also.
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A revisit is in order...
The replies from this board, as well as from several others, have been pretty unanimous regarding the overall quality of experience that is potentially available in Manila.
Most admit that the cost is slightly higher than AC, but not nearly as expensive as my initial perceptions, something that unfortunately scared me off of conducting a more thorough investigation initially.
Based on the way the comments from seasoned veterans of Manila have been running, it seems that the options, selection, and variety offer a pretty good potential in the final analysis.
I will definitely be reassessing the options in Manila from an enlightened perspective on my next trip. I look forward to budgeting a slightly longer period of time than just two days on my next trip, something that severely limited my ability to complete a thorough investigation of all the options last time.
Thanks for all the advice and commentary...
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Bar Fine
I've read that bar fines are as little as 1000 pesos and as much as 5000 pesos. Is the difference in cost directly related to the talent?
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Manila price structure...
I've gathered a lot of information on this and other boards as to the price structure in Manila after having recently posted on my limited brief experience there, and after having received numerous replies from guys who are apparently seasoned veterans. I think I have a pretty accurate feel for what is the going rate in Manila. But, those who are more knowledgeable than I, please feel free to correct my perceptions, and set the record straight if I am in error.
If you are used to negotiating in Angeles City, then it's a little misleading in that bar fines are 1000 pesos in Manila. But, unlike Angeles City, where your total cost, less tip, is included in the bar fine, in Manila you will owe the girl a fee in addition to the bar fine. Plus, proper mongering etiquette for good service will also dictate that you pay her a tip.
I am told that generally, at the clubs in the EDSA Complex, and at the Airport Complex, the going rate of compensation is around 2000-3000 pesos, which includes the bar fine of 1000 pesos, and the tip is "up to you."
So, compared to AC, where you can literally get LT for around 1000-1200 pesos inclusive, or even less on Perimeter Road, Manila will cost you about twice as much as Fields Road in AC, and sometimes more depending on the girl.
The bars in the EDSA Complex will require a 1000-1200 peso bar fine, and the girls will start out asking for a 3000 peso fee. Plus there will also be the expectation of a tip. I am told the girls will settle for a much lower fee, around 1200-2500 pesos, and I've been told that the fee really depends on the girl, and whether she can scam you into paying higher gringo rates.
Regarding places like LA Cafe, where the freelancers proliferate, the average inclusive cost seems to be between 1000-1500 pesos, paid directly to the girl for LT, and there is no bar fine. Obviously, if a tip is in order for GFE, then there is the addition of a tip to consider as well.
Regarding the Casas, I only have experience visiting the one, where I've been told that we probably paid too much, 3000 pesos, plus a 300-500 peso tip. I was later informed that the average long time cost of Casa girls should range from about 1500-2500 pesos inclusive, paid to the Casa up front, and then the tip amount is "up to you."
I usually tip them at least 300 pesos if they are good GFE's, and have even given more if their performance was exceptional.
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[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]I've gathered a lot of information on this and other boards as to the price structure in Manila after having recently posted on my limited brief experience there, and after having received numerous replies from guys who are apparently seasoned veterans. I think I have a pretty accurate feel for what is the going rate in Manila. But, those who are more knowledgeable than I, please feel free to correct my perceptions, and set the record straight if I am in error.
If you are used to negotiating in Angeles City, then it's a little misleading in that bar fines are 1000 pesos in Manila. But, unlike Angeles City, where your total cost, less tip, is included in the bar fine, in Manila you will owe the girl a fee in addition to the bar fine. Plus, proper mongering etiquette for good service will also dictate that you pay her a tip.
I am told that generally, at the clubs in the EDSA Complex, and at the Airport Complex, the going rate of compensation is around 2000-3000 pesos, which includes the bar fine of 1000 pesos, and the tip is "up to you."
So, compared to AC, where you can literally get LT for around 1000-1200 pesos inclusive, or even less on Perimeter Road, Manila will cost you about twice as much as Fields Road in AC, and sometimes more depending on the girl.
The bars in the EDSA Complex will require a 1000-1200 peso bar fine, and the girls will start out asking for a 3000 peso fee. Plus there will also be the expectation of a tip. I am told the girls will settle for a much lower fee, around 1200-2500 pesos, and I've been told that the fee really depends on the girl, and whether she can scam you into paying higher gringo rates.
Regarding places like LA Cafe, where the freelancers proliferate, the average inclusive cost seems to be between 1000-1500 pesos, paid directly to the girl for LT, and there is no bar fine. Obviously, if a tip is in order for GFE, then there is the addition of a tip to consider as well.
Regarding the Casas, I only have experience visiting the one, where I've been told that we probably paid too much, 3000 pesos, plus a 300-500 peso tip. I was later informed that the average long time cost of Casa girls should range from about 1500-2500 pesos inclusive, paid to the Casa up front, and then the tip amount is "up to you."
I usually tip them at least 300 pesos if they are good GFE's, and have even given more if their performance was exceptional.[/QUOTE]Thanks Spongebob for your helpful report. I'll be hanging out around P.Burgos St. and have read the barfine is 3000 peso plus tip. I hoping the quality of talent goes up with price but I'm not sure it's really true.
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Manila Report
Was in Manila from December 11th to December 14th. Stayed at the Las Palmas hotel (across from Pan Pacific). I had stayed there many years ago and thought I would try it again. It is a bit worn but my room (De luxe @ 2100p) was large and very clean. I would stay there again. You can walk to the LA Cafe and Remedious Circle.
By far the most fun I had was at the LA Cafe. It takes some skill to keep the skanks off you but, at the same time, there were a number of good looking fun girls. Sunday night I left at midnight and went to the Casino. Came back at 4:00 am and the place was still packed. A number of girls apprached me in teams, many were very cute. In fact, a number of dancers from clubs that had closed were there.
Went to EDSA, the ladies drink pressure was relentless. I finally left. Tried the "Butterfly Bar" up from the LA Cafe. It was the most depressing experience of my trip. Three or four skanks in a dingy atmosphere. Stay awary.
Cafe Havana (Remedious Circle) is nice later in the evening. Also a lot of good resteraunts in the area.
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EDSA Complex
[QUOTE=LoveAsian*****s]The mistake you made was only visiting one bar in EDSA. To the average person, all the bars are the same, with a bunch of similar women in each. However, after visiting EDSA maybe 50 times over the past 9 months, you realize that every bar is in fact quite different. For example, Out of the 50 or so visits, I have had maybe 40 girls (I sometimes come away empty handed). Of those 40 girls, not a single one came from Pit Stop (the one bar you visited). I would break it down to about:
12 - Bullets and Arrows
10 - Cotton Club
8 - Firehouse
7 - Space Girls
3 - Casino
1 - Samba
1 - VIP Room
0 - Pitstop
Response to LAW: I was in Manila October 2004. Quite a long time ago. But I thought I would let you know. I visited EDSA complex and was surprised at how many good looking girls there were. The problem was the high prices - about $80 -$90 US dollars for all nite at the time. Samba was a smaller club, with less girls, but had some of the best looking girls there. There was one tall girl there that was a 10+ and would only do short time. (Anyone know who I am talking about? You wouldn't forget her.) This may be outdated, but I just wanted to let you know at the time I thought Samba Club had the best looking girls there.
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edsa complex
to henry r
I was in manila for a few days this month , went to edsa around 8 pm , the
quality of the girl is much better than 2 year ago when i was there last .the
firehouse and cotton club have the best girl saw some 8-9 ask for 40 usd for
st and 70 usd for all nite so i leave after one drink and head to air force one
the price is outragous and quality is only so so is a rip off place for japenese
and rich businessman ,
so i head back to edsa around mid night after spend a few hr at the casino
near the airport ,surprise all the hot girl is still avalible , got a tall hottie at
the cotton club want 40 usd st after 1000 peso bar fine settle for 1500 peso
after barfine for st back to hotel , i think girl will go down in price late in a
slow night , also many hot girl at the la cafe on friday and saturday night any
other night is a hit and miss.
fast eddie 48
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A Muff Divers Warning !!
Oh woe is the muff diver who having partaken of the sweet delights then discovers that his paramour has left him with something that is very nasty in the throat!!
Recently went back to Manila and stayed in OXford Suites - a very nice and girl friendly location smack bang in Burgos.
Well Bottoms being a previous haunt and also Ivory what to do but follow my nose.
Night 1 - Ivory - bar fine 3000 - girl 2000
A tall short haired minx called Joy who loved to slurp - the bbbj was a joy to witness and she also liked to be cleaned out whilst doing the deed on me. So down we went into the box and away went the tongue - this proceeded to increase her perfomance and so we whiled the night away with a three on the clock performance. Although she went early in the morning she was good value for money and would recommend.
Night 2 - Bottoms - bar fine 1500 - girl 3000
Cant remember her name but do remember that the reason I chose her was because int he competition to decide who should be barfined she kissed the best and raised the life downstairs. She was expertly trained by a Canadian !! Have to give him credit as she wore a maple leaf and loved to dive and be dived on. She gave head like no-bodys business albeit that she was very flat chested - seems to be the vogue in Manila !!
It was a week later that the fever struck and after getting checked out found out that had a throat infection. Normal antibiotics did not do the job and a short trip to Bahrain - more on that in Bahrain - did not help either. On the way back went to the ENT who immediately suspected some poison from down below. After two weeks the throat is now back to normal and a much chastened muff diver is wondering how to avoid the issue again.
Enough of that though I have to say that the bbbj from Manila is worth the flight alone - the expertise of the two in question was admirable so to cap it here is a picture of Joy in the lift - the picture does not do her skills justice !!
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Muff Diver Blues
[QUOTE=Chalky26]Oh woe is the muff diver who having partaken of the sweet delights then discovers that his paramour has left him with something that is very nasty in the throat!!
Recently went back to Manila and stayed in OXford Suites - a very nice and girl friendly location smack bang in Burgos.
Well Bottoms being a previous haunt and also Ivory what to do but follow my nose.
Night 1 - Ivory - bar fine 3000 - girl 2000
A tall short haired minx called Joy who loved to slurp - the bbbj was a joy to witness and she also liked to be cleaned out whilst doing the deed on me. So down we went into the box and away went the tongue - this proceeded to increase her perfomance and so we whiled the night away with a three on the clock performance. Although she went early in the morning she was good value for money and would recommend.
Night 2 - Bottoms - bar fine 1500 - girl 3000
Cant remember her name but do remember that the reason I chose her was because int he competition to decide who should be barfined she kissed the best and raised the life downstairs. She was expertly trained by a Canadian !! Have to give him credit as she wore a maple leaf and loved to dive and be dived on. She gave head like no-bodys business albeit that she was very flat chested - seems to be the vogue in Manila !!
It was a week later that the fever struck and after getting checked out found out that had a throat infection. Normal antibiotics did not do the job and a short trip to Bahrain - more on that in Bahrain - did not help either. On the way back went to the ENT who immediately suspected some poison from down below. After two weeks the throat is now back to normal and a much chastened muff diver is wondering how to avoid the issue again.
Enough of that though I have to say that the bbbj from Manila is worth the flight alone - the expertise of the two in question was admirable so to cap it here is a picture of Joy in the lift - the picture does not do her skills justice !![/QUOTE]
Can you elaborate on what was the bug you got from the bad beaver? Also, how did the pussy smell and taste? That's a wild story. I will try and avoid this when I visit next month.
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[QUOTE=X Man]Thanks DF,
I once did a walk in at Executive. The suggested a standard for 2000. I looked at a room, but there was only one small window. Other rooms may be different:
[url]www.executiveplazahotel.com[/url]
Now here's a place that looks too good to be true. Near Paco Park, with swimming pool for about 2000. Has anyone stayed at Paco Park Oasis?
[url]www.parkoasis.com[/url]
I did a walk in on this place and liked it. Hotel Kimberly. This is across the street from the U of P. I remember being suprised because it seemed like such a bargain. Around 2000, nicely appointed, clean, lots of natural light.
[url]www.hotelkimberly.com[/url]
X Man[/QUOTE]Great info. Thanks for checkin' them out. Many COEDs hanging out around Kimberly Hotel?
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The Bad Beaver
And who said this was not an informative forum - here is a note that was pm to on my predicament and would recommend to all out there before diving into the undergrowth;-
As a dentist, I recomend a mouth wash; Peridex, or any other generic version of Chlorhexedine Gluconate 1.22% mouth rinse, usualy requires an RX in the US, may be non RX in other countries, but your dentist can get you an rx, since it is also excellent for preventing periodontal disease.
What happened is a very nasty fungus on the back of the throat which came from a fever followed by white pus spots on the throat meaning no drinking or eating without pain !! Dehydration followed and a nice bit of weight loss
Needless to say there was nothing about her to suggest a whiff of the unusual - this is often the case when they have a shower before the business - from memory though this might have been my mistake as once she moved her body the brain was parked in another gear.
Moral of the story - take the above libation before diving and then make sure she has a nice wash before you start !!
Why ruin a nice dive !!
WIR most certainly to both of them this time armed with some precautions !!
Happy New Year to all
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Just Wondering If...
Chalky,
Are you quite certain that the illness you contracted was not merely from being on the airplane, and the air quality issues that go along with that? Were your symptoms actually diagnosed by a doctor as an actual STD, or are you saying that the illness was just a bad bug you caught from muff diving, not an STD, but just a communicable illness that is unrelated to sexual contact?
I find that many, many times, after having flown, I catch these same kinds of nasty severe colds/sore throats. But, many times, it is also when I return from a mongering trip during which I enjoy cunnilingus almost everyday.
Here is a case in point. When I came back from the Manila about four weeks ago, several days after my return, I caught a severe sore throat. While I was in Manila, AC, Batam, and Jakarta, I did a lot of muff diving over the course of seventeen days. I did not catch anything until about two days after I returned home. I assumed that because I did not catch anything while traveling, that my sore throat was either caused by muff diving in Manila/AC, my most recent last stops on my mongering trip, or as a result of just being on the return flight for 21 hours. I caught the exact same illness you described. I did eventually take antibotics to get rid of it, and like you, I assumed it must have been from muff diving. But I wonder, because...
A couple of weeks later, after having gotten rid of that severe sore throat, and being free of symptoms from the first sore throat for probably a week or more, I went on another plane ride within the US. During that trip I had NO sexual encounters whatsoever. Shortly after I returned, sure enough, I got another sever sore throat, albeit a slightly different one, without the puss you described. Fact is, I still have it, and have been battling it now for at least 3 or 4 days, choosing to take Azithromiacin because of its severity.
I have always wondered if the source of these sore throats is a result of muff diving, or simply a result of flying on airplanes, which is, IMHO, literally a breeding ground for all kinds of nasty illnesses.
The airlines say that cabin air is better than what is in most buildings, but I wonder if their published claims on the subject are after having tested the cabin air with nobody on board the airplane. Maybe they test the air with no passengers on board so they can claim the air quality on airplanes is good.
They certainly don't want the public to start believing that everytime they fly, they run the risk of not only a terrorist flying the airplane into a building, but also the lesser risk of a bothersome and painful cold and/or sore throat.
The recommendation to use Peridex, or a generic equivalent, is a good one. I have always tried to use mouthwash after muff diving, but never really knew if conventional mouthwashes really had any effectiveness.
I've been told that standard anticeptic mouthwashes would probably not be very effective in preventing disease, but that they can not hurt our cause. But, it sounds like the stronger RX mouthwash would be necessary, and have some measure of effectiveness in solving our problem.
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Probably the sore throat you get is by deep kissing or french kissing as they call it.
Don't forget we are not used to hot and dusty weather outside.
It is always better to take a course of antibiotics after your mongering trip.
It will kill all germs you picked up during your trip.
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What about the 3rd hole?
[QUOTE=Sammon]Probably the sore throat you get is by deep kissing or french kissing as they call it.
Don't forget we are not used to hot and dusty weather outside.
It is always better to take a course of antibiotics after your mongering trip.
It will kill all germs you picked up during your trip.[/QUOTE]Maybe it could have been his tongue up her ass. A possible e-coli infection. Anthing's possible after a night of buying ladies drinks while getting shit faced just before you barfine her.
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[QUOTE=Sammon]Probably the sore throat you get is by deep kissing or french kissing as they call it.
Don't forget we are not used to hot and dusty weather outside.
It is always better to take a course of antibiotics after your mongering trip.
It will kill all germs you picked up during your trip.[/QUOTE]
When my friends come to visit me, they almost always develop a case of sore thought, sometimes quite severe. I assume it is because of the weather because I muff dive on a regular basis, and have never had any throat problems. I live out here, so I am used to the weather, or it could be because after so much muff diving, I am just used to whatever it is the girls have down here. After returning from your trip, take 2000 MG of zithromax. It should take care of any bacterial infections you might have picked up. DO NOT TAKE IT WHILE YOU ARE OUT HERE. If you do, and are exposed to something, you can create a resistant infection.
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Spot on
Zithromax was the one to finally clear the throat - mind you he passed it with an additional humdinger that left me nauseous every time I took the tablet - so in future will take the peridex route before going down - would be a shame to lose out on some of Manila's finest.
You are right though tiredness and general fatigue make you more vulnerable and the air in the planes is like their coffee !!
On a point though as one living in Asia is Peridex readily available and not to sound ignorant what is this Rx that you all mention !!
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Rx
[QUOTE=Chalky26]Zithromax was the one to finally clear the throat - mind you he passed it with an additional humdinger that left me nauseous every time I took the tablet - so in future will take the peridex route before going down - would be a shame to lose out on some of Manila's finest.
You are right though tiredness and general fatigue make you more vulnerable and the air in the planes is like their coffee !!
On a point though as one living in Asia is Peridex readily available and not to sound ignorant what is this Rx that you all mention !![/QUOTE]
Rx means 'prescription' as in getting a doctor's prescription :D
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[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Rx means 'prescription' as in getting a doctor's prescription :D[/QUOTE]
Yep, all the prescriptions in PI will have the "Rx" logo. Moreover a lot of the stuff you can buy OTC in PI has it too. I guess in that case its kind of a suggestion like so many other things in Phils ;)
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Shall Stick to Diving
All this technical Rx business has given me a headspin - time to get back to work on the diving and already have some nice candidates in mind for the third week in January.
Loved the long report on the bars in Burgos - on my recent trip back to KL sat next to the sister in law of the owner of Mogambo et al - interesting how he has been steadily increasing his influence on the street. Pity that he has yet to invoke some more quality control in his selections.
Did visit Wild West - and played pool upstairs - some lovely sites up there especially a sweet young thing called Cindy who when she bends over to strike the ball deserves a nice one between the cheeks to complete the picture.
Also any one had Cale of Bottoms ? She puts out in the blow job room - but wont bar fine - interesting how they view this one - thought that quite funny - willing to do a bj in a room full of people and yet unwilling to have the real deal ! Oh well it takes all sorts and her refusal led me to the other nice party - the trick in Bottoms is to bar fine before 7 and get the girl for 1500 pesos and not the usual 3000 - that way more time to dive dive dive !!
Now if any of you have a picture of that sweet young thing that would help my recovery much faster than worrying about Rx and OTC !!
Happy January one and all
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Hyatt Casino Hotel??
Two related questions.
1) Has anyone stayed in the relatively new Hyatt Casino Hotel and can compare it to the Makati-area hotels I have stayed in (Shangrila: excellent, Peninsula: good, Mandarin Oriental: good, Dusit: OK)?
2) I am into picking up "regular" girls, and have found Makati to be good hunting grounds with Conways, Starbucks, SM, Greenbelt, and Glorietta. Is the Baywalk area (walking distance from Hyatt Casino) also good for this kind of pickup of nonprofessionals?
Thanks!
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baywalk
Trav Man,
IMHO, the baywalk tends to be kind of a locals thing. I have hung out for drinks and music and was treated well. But I would be hesitant to try any real "mongering" behaviour. There were ladies there, but coupled up or with what looked like family or co-worker groups. Good luck.
FD
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LA Cafe
FD,
On the other hand, is the Hyatt Casino Hotel within walking distance of the LA Cafe?
OAH
[QUOTE=Firedick]Trav Man,
IMHO, the baywalk tends to be kind of a locals thing. I have hung out for drinks and music and was treated well. But I would be hesitant to try any real "mongering" behaviour. There were ladies there, but coupled up or with what looked like family or co-worker groups. Good luck.
FD[/QUOTE]
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LA Cafe is just a few blocks away from the Hyatt. Easy walking distance. Also to Remedios Circle, where there are a number of good restaurants, including Havana Cafe, which is a good place to meet amateurs late on a weekend.
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Thanks
Traveler 1952,
I thought we drove past the hotel on my way back from the LA Cafe to Makati where I usually stay. I will try the Hyatt sometime. I like the Malate area too. Has anybody stayed at the new Hyatt? Any good?
OAH
[QUOTE=Traveler 1952]LA Cafe is just a few blocks away from the Hyatt. Easy walking distance. Also to Remedios Circle, where there are a number of good restaurants, including Havana Cafe, which is a good place to meet amateurs late on a weekend.[/QUOTE]
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Hyatt
Have stayed at the Hyatt many times since opening. very nice, rain shower and big beds. Will post some fotos when i work out how to do it.
Will be staying at the Hyatt for 2 nights when i arrive in Feb.
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hyatt hotel
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Traveler 1952,
I thought we drove past the hotel on my way back from the LA Cafe to Makati where I usually stay. I will try the Hyatt sometime. I like the Malate area too. Has anybody stayed at the new Hyatt? Any good?
OAH[/QUOTE]
to OAH
I stay there when it first open , stay 2 night on promotion rate 48 usd a night nice hotel but i think the pan pacific have larger room , i was at manila
last month the cheapest room they offer is 3400 peso no more promotions
avalible did check out the casino is empty only a few japanese and chinese
tourist , i think this place is own by stanley ho of macau.
fast eddie 48
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Entertainment Center
The "new" area across from the domestic airport is dying a slow death. There are only 4 bars that remain open. I saw a total of 4 customers combined in all of them. The quality of the talent is on the slide. Good talent will not stay where there are no custmers to serve. I reckon it is only a matter of time before they all close. I really do not understand why it did not make it. Good location, free parking, etc.
OAH
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Entertainment center !
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]The "new" area across from the domestic airport is dying a slow death. There are only 4 bars that remain open. I saw a total of 4 customers combined in all of them. The quality of the talent is on the slide. Good talent will not stay where there are no custmers to serve. I reckon it is only a matter of time before they all close. I really do not understand why it did not make it. Good location, free parking, etc.
OAH[/QUOTE]
Any idea where the girlls have gone ??
do you think local or edsa center ??
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Too little time....
I have survived many trips through the posting on the ISG. I hope that someone familiar with Manila can offer me a few pointers. I will be there for a few days around January 24th and it is my first trip. I will be staying at the Hotel Manila, One Rizal Park, 1099 but I have no clue where that is in relation to the excitement.
Can anyon please advise me on the nearest and best mongering haunts.
Thanks,
WC
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OAH: The new Hyatt casino is great for girls. Plenty of places and FLs around it, a superb walk in brothel just beside it and the staff are great about you bring three girls up at a time. Can't beat it imho.
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Location
[QUOTE=Woodley]I have survived many trips through the posting on the ISG. I hope that someone familiar with Manila can offer me a few pointers. I will be there for a few days around January 24th and it is my first trip. I will be staying at the Hotel Manila, One Rizal Park, 1099 but I have no clue where that is in relation to the excitement.
Can anyon please advise me on the nearest and best mongering haunts.
Thanks,
WC[/QUOTE]
It is the hotel located across Luneta Park from the Excitement areas of Malate and Ermita,5 minutes by Cab from LA Cafe,15 Minutes away from EDSA complex.I would not reccomend walking through the park at night though.Too many muggers.Cheers
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[QUOTE=Faulk]OAH: The new Hyatt casino is great for girls. Plenty of places and FLs around it, a superb walk in brothel just beside it and the staff are great about you bring three girls up at a time. Can't beat it imho.[/QUOTE]Hi Faulk: By walk in brothel do you mean like a casa ? I went to one (casa) on Del Pilar just before you get to LA Cafe ( coming from the Hyatt ). Had about 20 girls, all pretty decent 6's and 7's for 2,000 pesos all night. This was the starting price and I did not negotiate. I walked into this big room then the 20 girls walked in and sat down along this long bench and I was given all the time to pick and choose. Where is the brothel you are referring to - On Pedro Gill, Mabini or Del Pilar ?
Sometimes I prefer going to these places than put up with the bullshit of negotiating at LA Cafe, G-Point, etc.
Thanks.
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hotels in Manilla??
Hi guys,
well call me a lazy guy but i only found very expensive hotels in a yahoo search......but I arrive in manilla on a friday morning..so i guess i will have to stay untill monday because i must relong my visa (i stay 25 days....so I have to do that)....in immigratuion offcie. MY GF picks me up from the airport.
Any decent hotels arround in the range of US $ 15-30 a night???(double room because she is spending the night with me...)
save..clean...decent...not too flashy or with a jacuzzi or sh*t like that.
After i arrange my visa on monday we're off to Bicol area were she lives.
TIA
Johan
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Manila Hotels
Try Charterhouse or Oxford Suites would both be in the right range mind you located close to Burgos the temptation might be too much for you !!
A good website for cheap hotels believe it or not is the British Embassy ! They have some good offers and the places are obviously clean as a result of their endorsement - clean in the sense of hygiene !!
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Good site!!/gov. rate? 10%
[QUOTE=Chalky26]Try Charterhouse or Oxford Suites would both be in the right range mind you located close to Burgos the temptation might be too much for you !!
A good website for cheap hotels believe it or not is the British Embassy ! They have some good offers and the places are obviously clean as a result of their endorsement - clean in the sense of hygiene !![/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.britishembassy.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket/Xcelerate/ShowPage&c=Page&cid=1059735389298[/url]
Thanks for the tip mate!!! I just found it...indeed TONS of info...:-)
Am I correct that the government rate for rooms in hotels is 10% extra charge??? I noticed this on some sites.
i will have a look arround,
Johan
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Hotels in Manila
Try Cherry Blossoms on J.Bocobo St, very near Robinson's Galleria in Malate (or is it Ermita?)
Try Asiatravel.com for more listings, but Las Palmas (or Palms) on Adriatico St should fit the bill also.
A bit out of the way (not far from Robinson's, maybe 1 KM) is the Paco Park Hotel, but crossing Taft Ave is a hassle anytime of day in a taxi due to traffic.
I can vouch for both CB and Paco Park, having stayed in both.
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Hotel discounts
Gents,
Just a suggestion.
If the ladies you are to meet work in hospitality-related business (hotels etc), they get a good discount in many major hotels in Manila. A friend of mine arranged it when I stayed at the Shangri-La Makati two years back. Sorry, but cant remember what I paid anymore.
The hotels also have a discount for Overseas-workers returning to the RP, staying in Manila for a few days before heading back to the province. Dont know how you can talk your lady in to using such a discount for you when there, if she needs to provide some proof that she is returning from overseas.
Just my 0,02 cents, which can be worth a lot of $$ :)
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Have you changed your tune?
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]It is the hotel located across Luneta Park from the Excitement areas of Malate and Ermita,5 minutes by Cab from LA Cafe,15 Minutes away from EDSA complex.I would not reccomend walking through the park at night though.Too many muggers.Cheers[/QUOTE]
Cebu Local:
I am surprised to see that you replied with info for this newbie (Woodley) with a a total of 4 posts, every one asking and not one contribution. What about RTFF? Are you getting soft in your old age?
OAH
P.S. Thanks again for the dinner at your place in Makati. The next one is on me, my friend.
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Holiday Spirit Hangover
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Cebu Local:
I am surprised to see that you replied with info for this newbie (Woodley) with a a total of 4 posts, every one asking and not one contribution. What about RTFF? Are you getting soft in your old age?
OAH
P.S. Thanks again for the dinner at your place in Makati. The next one is on me, my friend.[/QUOTE]Yup,It must be Holiday Season hangover.But again I have always been nice,Thats why I am sure Santa keeps on sending me NICE presents......Catch you in China soon.
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LA Cafe
There has been so much written about this place. Yes, sometimes it's full of hags and hustlers. Sometimes it's so crowded it's claustrophobic. Many a night I walked out and caught a taxi to EDSA.
But don't let anyone tell you it isn't worth a visit.
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Paco Park Hotel Review
I've been meaning to do a review for this place. The location is a bit inconvenient, unless you like long sweaty walks involving crossing a death highway.... ( I lose 2 to 5 kilos every time I visit the Philippines....the weather is a perpetual sauna...and then there is the sexercise).
Of course, if you take a taxi just to go two blocks, then the advantages of Paco Park might interest you. The pink room for example...., the pink room is very nice....especially when you have the right company.
Before I go to the trouble to do an extensive review, is anyone interested?
X Man
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X-Man: Paco Park Oasis
I've stayed there, "Brown Room", but I'd be interested in your report.
I found traffic a b**ch even in a taxi, when trying to cross Taft, took forever.
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im trying to book pacopark now
[QUOTE=Harvey Wb]I've stayed there, "Brown Room", but I'd be interested in your report.
I found traffic a b**ch even in a taxi, when trying to cross Taft, took forever.[/QUOTE]Business room, 2610p per night incl free DSL inroom and breakfast.
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Giving and requesting Ermita info
Thanks for posts here...am on my semi-annual swing through Manila and am trying to check things out after a 6-month or so absence. Got two weeks in the Philippines with need to fly out from AC but am trying to decide how to allocate the time.
To add to the hotel discussion, I'm staying at the Soriente Hotel on Flores & Bocobo Streets. It's P1,299/night net and, just recently, accepts credit cards. Advantages: Well-run, big rooms, good price, good location (about 3 blocks north of Robinson's Place, 1 block south of U.N. Avenue). Disadvantages: Some rooms facing Bocobo St. can be noisy (best to get one facing the other side), hotel is older and room furniture could use replacement, and TVs are smallish though cable selection is pretty good. They also STILL don't have a website or even an e-mail, which is why I can usually get a room as a walk-in. I try to hold hotel costs down, so I'm looking for the best-value places in Ermita or Malate. Would also give the Rothman and the Cherry Blossom a look. Have booked the Rothman before over the Internet.
Checked out LA Cafe last night and the upstairs looked depleted compared to years past. The Korean side was full but not bulging, while the band side had quite a bit of extra room. I recognized some of the professionals from earlier trips. Seems the place doesn't get near-full on weekdays 'til after midnight or later, with the cover charge a likely deterrent (even at P100).
Found one that didn't have the mannerisms of a pro...she said it was third visit, she had day job, etc. Above average looks, nice smile, 23. Not too bad on GFE, at least geniunely horny and orgasmic, as it turns out. Didn't ask for money but I paid P1,000 for ST and hope I didn't overpay.
For the LA Cafe girls, am used to P,1000 ST and P1,500 LT from previous trips.
Any intelligence about what bars near the LA Cafe are worthwhile and what ones aren't is appreciated.
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Rainy Days in Manila
In to Manila for a 4-nite visit. With the off-and-on rain showers over the past few days, it is a bit wet but at least it is cool.
Ended up catching up with some old (girl)friends on this trip - one was intentional, the other not. LA Cafe was mighty slow as usual on Tuesday so I ended up going with one of my favorites - Giselle. Being her first customer, she feels a bit sentimental towards me. Coupled with her natural prowess in bed, she provides a unique GFE/PSE experience. Always hangs with her friends in the corner across from the top of the stairs, she can do it all: deep throat BBBJ, FS, anal and CIM/COF is on the menu.
Next night was to catch up with my lovely nursing student Tina. She is perpetually in need of cash and always texting me for a meet-up... this time I gave in and called her up, reminding her to bring her uniform for modelling. The thing that made the evening special was that she asked to see the video that we made previously... I fired up the laptop and showed her, but as soon as she saw all the other files (with girl names), she asked to see the other videos. Tina was totally into it as I showed her some of the more interesting vids... she must have taken it as some kind of challenge, because the performed like a porn star champ... nothing was out of bounds. Same menu as Giselle above, but add on uniform modelling, anal rimming and a couple things too naughty to mention. Even I was screaming awesome.
Had some great massage at Touch of Hands (see my previous report in Makati section). Ask for Grace... she knows how to do a massage right. This place is strictly massage - cheap, clean and professional - no hanky panky.
Some cute things walking around offering massage on P. Burgos. Ran into a bouncy little 19yo with lovely cafe au lait skin, a terriffic smile and a tight little ass. I was too tired to do anything about it, but she would have definitely been worth a try. Also ran into a total freshie at 88 Internet... one of the girls I know was helping her to set up her first e-mail account. She told me that she works at the Shampoo bar... she is so cute and innocent, I'm seriously tempted to bring her back and break her in.
Friday night at LA Cafe is next... yum yum.
That's Manila. AR+
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Paco Park Oasis Hotel Review (1) / PPOH
I promised a review of this place. Almost too far to walk to the action, especially on one of those hot sticky days, but it still has a lot going for it. If you are after some regular girls /online girls, a hotel in Ermita is going to sound warning bells. One lady refused to meet me in Ermita. She said she didn’t want to ruin her reputation. Hmmm. Well Paco Park is in Malate and is right next door to Paco Park which is a beautiful little park for a stroll. It has a central courtyard with a nice garden and pool. Good place to invite folks in day time. Some pictures attached of pool and bath.
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PPOH Review (2)
I stayed in the pink room 316 (2600pesos), and also 315(1900pesos). Both are on the quiet side facing a small road that wraps around Paco Park. Room 316 had an extra layer of glass so it was quieter.
X Man
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PPOH Review (3)
Apparently the owner of PPOH also owns Amazonia. Did I mention the pink room?
X Man
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PPOH Review
Restaurant has a sports theme, large screen tv, but I wasn’t particularly impressed with the food. It is nice to eat poolside as many people did every day and night.
The bed was a mattress on a board. Too bad, I like the bounce that boxsprings give. Bed and pillow pics attached.
One of the clerks at front desk was really foxy.
X Man
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PPOH review
He,he, when I post pictures at the picture section the view total is about 1,500 in 24 hours. This section it's about 10-20% of that. Many of the lurking lechers never venture out of the photo section.
Maybe I'll post the next batch on the Domino thread.
X Man
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Much appreciated....
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Cebu Local:
I am surprised to see that you replied with info for this newbie (Woodley) with a a total of 4 posts, every one asking and not one contribution. What about RTFF? Are you getting soft in your old age?
OAH
P.S. Thanks again for the dinner at your place in Makati. The next one is on me, my friend.[/QUOTE]Hey guys,
I actually have posted under anothe name which I had to chance when I was signing up to the pay element of this great site. You are right OldAsiaHand I am due a few reports and these will be winging their way in your direction really soon.
Best
WC
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My Flying visit to Manila
Hi Folks,
I have just returned from a three night stay in Manila and wanted to share some of my experiences with you all. I know that I am likely to be considered a failure because I took some short-cuts and paid more that the more experienced mongerer would pay. So don't beat up on me guys. Realize that there are some people who are not the pioneers and adventurers that you are and who sometimes do not have the time to dress down at the end of a busy day and head to the best haunts to really indulge.
This trip was difficult for me because I was based at the Manila Hotel (near the US Embassy) which is a bit away from the main action in Manila. The other problem was that I was not available for fun until after 10.00pm each night. So I opted to retire to my room, order room service and shower while I waited for it arrival.
Before getting to Manila I found a wonderful yahoo club devoted to Lady Dhen who is a warm, beautiful woman who knows how to satisfy her man. We com***icated a few times and made a loose arrangement to have her swing by the night that I arrived.
She came (in every sense) and was even better than her pictures. She was warm, friendly, engaging and a total GFE. She spent the night and we had three sessions in every possible position and all for $80. I know, I know...this is various multiples of what I could have got in Makati but if cabs, drinks etc are all factored in then I think I did quite well. It is less than half what would be needed for a quick souless trip to an AMP in the US.
I saw Lady D on two nights as she was flexible and available at relatively short notice. I am happy to share link to yahoo club and cell phone number to anyone interested.
On the other night I decided to try out Prestigious Escorts. They have a good website and are resonsive to email and text messages. To be honest it was quite late when I finished some work related socializing. I had enjoyed some whiskeys and was feeling rather horny. I sent a text to PE and Joy was back to me in a flash to let me know who was available. I decided to pick Sydney based on her pictures on the website. She arrived and was even better than the web. Young, sweet and is into pleasing her man with a total GFE. I would do it again and again and again (actually I did). Happy to share the website and her cell # to anyone who PMs me.
Not the typical mongering experience for me but worked really well for me.
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Oldasiahand, cebulocal, Xman, Goodenough, domino, asianrain, firedick helpme outguys
Hello all ...i think i hit a jackpot..a sort off..three american women aged 19, 19 and 22 are visiting the philiphines next week...well i know you guys hate american women...but its my chance to ride on my dream..as we asians tend to get on blondes as you do with asians..its a case of grass being greener on the other side...
Well...to start with ..i found them on a chat room....and they want just to be away from there heartland and let loose there sexuality to the fullest to anyone pinoy or whatever they see or to get a sense of safety with pinoy to guide them around philiphines....thats what i figured it out ...
we exchanged pictures and it seems unbeliveble thats it's soo easy till now...
So far so good...now the ..real stumbler or with a big S is that im not in the philiphines and im not even a pinoy and i have not visited manila even in my past life...i just chatted with them to kill my time as they were open to showing there pictures....i did not know if its all will be so serious in a short time...
Im from india actually, and i had plans to come to philiphines but not soo quick..so i being reading all these posts...to get a sense from were to begin...
Well....i believe in sharing and caring ( as if i have any choice here) and lifting the trophy together..and being a team guy...yeah yeah ....
what say you seniour members here.....if you have any passion left for a white women...i know you guys have come all the way.... away to be from them :)..yet if it ain't hurts...just f**ck it ;)
tag with me to joy's yonder and to the passionate dance of sexual frill....imagine just to stirr your mind....a filipina on one side and blonde on the other....wht the heck....pink and brown p**sy together :) in one go...
help me guys and thy shall be helped :)
First, I'm really looking for a very cheap hotel or accomodation to fit my ass....and next well..to cut it short ...my budget that will fit me for a week stay in manilla...excluding airfare....point to the grave...just room, food, travel around the city... thats it ....rest i can ride along with them....or better....any knight in here to guide me up
Thanks a lot
Loser.
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Not sure...
Sounds like the Born Loser came up a winner this time. I will be in Manila from Wednesday onward next week, and if I can help by taking one or two off your hands, let me know. I cannot help you with the lodgings though, as I almost always stay in the same two or three places, and they are not inexpensive. I could help with the dragging them around to the clubs in Manila, showing them something of the seamy nightlife, and some of the other adventures that they might find thrilling.
Send me a PM if you want to pursue this further. CL is going to be in town, according to one of his posts, so maybe he would pitch in as well.
:D
GE
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Helping Out
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]Hello all ...i think i hit a jackpot..a sort off..three american women aged 19, 19 and 22 are visiting the philiphines next week...well i know you guys hate american women...but its my chance to ride on my dream..as we asians tend to get on blondes as you do with asians..its a case of grass being greener on the other side...
Well...to start with ..i found them on a chat room....and they want just to be away from there heartland and let loose there sexuality to the fullest to anyone pinoy or whatever they see or to get a sense of safety with pinoy to guide them around philiphines....thats what i figured it out ...
we exchanged pictures and it seems unbeliveble thats it's soo easy till now...
So far so good...now the ..real stumbler or with a big S is that im not in the philiphines and im not even a pinoy and i have not visited manila even in my past life...i just chatted with them to kill my time as they were open to showing there pictures....i did not know if its all will be so serious in a short time...
Im from india actually, and i had plans to come to philiphines but not soo quick..so i being reading all these posts...to get a sense from were to begin...
Well....i believe in sharing and caring ( as if i have any choice here) and lifting the trophy together..and being a team guy...yeah yeah ....
what say you seniour members here.....if you have any passion left for a white women...i know you guys have come all the way.... away to be from them :)..yet if it ain't hurts...just f**ck it ;)
tag with me to joy's yonder and to the passionate dance of sexual frill....imagine just to stirr your mind....a filipina on one side and blonde on the other....wht the heck....pink and brown p**sy together :) in one go...
help me guys and thy shall be helped :)
First, I'm really looking for a very cheap hotel or accomodation to fit my ass....and next well..to cut it short ...my budget that will fit me for a week stay in manilla...excluding airfare....point to the grave...just room, food, travel around the city... thats it ....rest i can ride along with them....or better....any knight in here to guide me up
Thanks a lot
Loser.[/QUOTE]
Well I can help you get discounted hotel rooms in Makati,If you are fine with about 20$-25$ a day for the room,I can get you one in the Burgos Makati Avenue area.I speak fluent Filipino and Cebuano so I can give you some advice in that area.But I am not into American women ,No I dont hate them,Its just my taste runs into Chinese women.Heck,I can spring for drinks or Lunch for you guys when you get in.But I will pass on the AW.Just drop me a PM or an SMS when you get in.Cheers
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Too good to be true?
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]Hello all. I think I hit a jackpot. A sort off. Three american women aged 19, 19 and 22 are visiting the philiphines next week. Well I know you guys hate american women. But its my chance to ride on my dream. As we asians tend to get on blondes as you do with asians. Its a case of grass being greener on the other side.
Well. To start with. I found them on a chat room. And they want just to.
First, I'm really looking for a very cheap hotel or accomodation to fit my ass. And next well. To cut it short. My budget that will fit me for a week stay in manilla. Excluding airfare. Point to the grave. Just room, food, travel around the city. Thats it. Rest I can ride along with them. Or better. Any knight in here to guide me up
Thanks a lot
Loser.[/QUOTE]Just wondering if the girls you want to hook up with are the girls I saw in an add at craigslist? That add somehow seemed a bit too good to be true. If those are the girls I hope for you i'm wrong and that you'll have a good time with them. Or that it just are other girls.
Anyway here's the [url=http://manila.craigslist.org/cas/127774128.html]add[/url]
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helping out
Loser,
When will you guys be in Manila? I'll be there for most of April.
IB
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Coincidence
[QUOTE=White Wolf]Just wondering if the girls you want to hook up with are the girls I saw in an add at craigslist? That add somehow seemed a bit too good to be true. If those are the girls I hope for you i'm wrong and that you'll have a good time with them. Or that it just are other girls.
Anyway here's the [url=http://manila.craigslist.org/cas/127774128.html]add[/url][/QUOTE]Just make sure.But are you (Born Loser)the guy who posted in BAD Tagalog that is bringing the 3 girls to Manila.Btw its KANTUTAN not Katutan and KANTUT means F*CK but behaving like a Tuta means acting like a puppy.
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Born Loser????
Hi Any news on the three American Women??????Paging Born Loser???.Anyway just curious.Best Regards
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hi there..Cebu local
I checked the craigslist site, the description sounds familier, but the pictures are not true :)...boy the pictures are really hot in CL :)
the girls that i talked with are normal working women i guess or god knows what there intentions are..i have heard that they may be hookers or just wanting a company to take my money out...whatever the intentions may be who cares...i just want to screw the pink p***sy...or will it be too difficult to get it anyway...
well...im keeping my fingers crossed...and now i m waiting for there final word...
i keep u updated
Loser
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Girls Prices
I am not sure to go to Thailand or Manila. How much are the girls in Manila? They look ok from what I can see in the photos? Bangkok is between $25 to $50 for LT. Depends on which one you find and how you negotiate. Nice thing about the Phils is that they speak English. That would be a nice change. With over 20 hours of flying and a short vacation I do not think that I will make it to the provinces. The last thing I need on a vacation is 5 to 10 hours of more travelling.
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CL's World...
Hey CL. Any progress to share on the cover women?
:D
GE
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manila report
Thanks to all the great posters here I was only in Manila for a few days in November and I used the posts to guide me. Being somewhat of a thrifty guy I thought it best to stay in the Ermita Malate area and focus on freelancer bars and street girls. Don't care so much for nightclubs anyway.
First stop - straight to Amazonia on del Pilar and Santa Monica. Now this is my kind of place. Got a standard room there for 1250 peso. It wasn't huge but had cable tv and air conditioning and was clean. They also have deluxe rooms for 1650 that are probably nicer. My standard room didn't have hot water but you don't really need hot water for shower in phil. They also have short time rooms I think for 450. Girl at front desk said most of their business is short time rooms. They can also lock up your valuables at front desk. They have 24 hour food there too and it is very good. Food not so cheap but the drinks are. 60 or 80 peso if I remember correctly.
Amazonia is no where near as busy as LA Cafe. Amazonia was quite busy on Friday and Saturday night with some real hotties and some of lesser quality. By the early hours of the morning there are only a few girls there. After hanging out for quite a while I figured it was time to get some action. Around 4 in the morning I tried to get 1 girl but to my surprise she wouldn't go below 1500 peso. So finally after a couple hours a little hottie came in named Anne and I had better luck with her. 500 peso for short time up in my room. She was well worth it. Later on around lunchtime she came back into the bar and I grabbed her again right away for another 500 peso short time. Fingered her snatch for about 20 mins and then screwed her for about an hour in every position I could think of. Very nice.
Sunday morning was dead at Amazonia. I actually sat there for a couple hours all by myself. Absolutely no customers and no girls. Contrast with LA Cafe which at this time still had lots of people inside. LA seemed busy 24 7. I went in to LA a few times but never seemed to stay too long because it was usually too crowded. Sat down once and right away a mamasan started offering all of her girls to me and she had a lot of girls. Another time I went in early in the morning and walked straight thru to the back wall and sat down. Oddly, no waitress came up and asked me if I wanted a drink. That actually happened twice to me at LA. This is very odd for Philippines because all stores etc. Usually serve or provide service immediately because they really want your money. Anyway, this girl came up and sat down with me. She was thin and cute maybe about 30. I quickly realized she couldn't speak so I started to talk to her using a notepad and pen she had. I could tell that this would be a cheap and hot date. I really wanted to take her back to my room but she kept trying to speak even though she couldn't and could only make these really strange freaky sounds. I started to wonder if she might be completely insane and decided not too take her. Just too freaking weird.
On The Streets - Don't see many posters talking about streetwalkers so here's what I found. There just weren't massive amounts of streetwalkers when I was there. Not what I would expect in a huge city in such a poor country. Walking up and down del Pilar from Santa Monica to Quirino I could always find something but would never find more than a couple in any one place. There would usually be a couple around LA Cafe and maybe a bit to the east of that. Area around LA Cafe seemed to have a few pimp types hanging around and that always seems to turn me off. Oddly enough, del Pilar and the streets around there look safer in the night than they do in the daytime perhaps because they are not as crowded at night and they are all well lit. You will also see an occasional policeman at night but they are very rare in the daytime. Wouldn't suggest going down any dark alleys but I walked miles and miles all over Ermita and Malate and was never hassled by anybody although my rough grasp of Tagalog probably helped. There are streetwalkers in the Ermita area on the area north of del Pilar but quite a few of them seem to be ladyboys so you might want to ask if you are not sure. Also, don't wear sandals if you are out at night. I saw about 100 rats just ***ching away on the curb at Mabini street 1 morning about 3 a. M. Quoted prices on the street varied but there are some lo rent hos out there. I had 1 girl quote me 400 peso she was a little bit cute and 40 y. O. But she was obviously pretty spaced out.
Second Stop - Harrison Mall Area Stayed at Aloha Hotel on Roxas which is within walking distance of Harrison Mall. Got a very large room at the back of the motel for 1800 peso which was both air conditioned and had hot water. Lots of motels in area including Sogo which also has short time rooms and cheaper rooms. Now, Harrison Mall is like well, streetwalkers in a mall. Most of them are upstairs, especially towards the amusement arcade area. These seem to be mostly freelancers, there are more upstairs but a lot of them seem to be pimped and I just don't like these pimp types. If you hang around the railing girls will come up to you or if you walk around a fair bit you can tell which girls are working and which girls aren't. Girls seem to ask for 1000 peso or maybe less short time. They also seem to be hungry so you may do yourself a favour by buying them something to eat first. Jolibee downstairs is quick and cheap. Walking around upstairs I spied Marika, 27 maybe a 7 and offered her 700 to come back to my room short time. Her English wasn't the best and she had trouble understanding that a condom had to be used at all times. Twice I had to grab her head to keep my unprotected unit out of her mouth, sure did appreciate her enthusiasm though. She sucked me nice and hard and then I have her a good, long screw. Had a nap and then a repeat, love the way she just sucked me hard and climbed on top. Seems that the girls there are a bit surprised when you screw them for a half an hour or an hour straight I guess most customers don't go that long. Anyway, when done Marika said she was hungry, I didn't feel like feeding her so I have her a 100 tip and said she could leave and get something to eat. She wasn't too happy with 800 but took it and left. A few hours later the front desk called up and said Marika was here to visit me. I guess she wasn't too unhappy with the 800 after all. I asked them to send her away as I knew I wouldn't be there long and wanted some more variety. Next day found Riza at Harrison who was 32 and maybe also a 7. She asked for 500-700 short time but I ended up keeping her long time and gave her 1200. She gave real good head and she also got a good hour long screw. I think she liked the fact that I was clean and tidy because in the middle of the BJ she started licking my ass and gently rimming it. Baby, I glady give you 1200 for licking my ass, thank you. One afternoon at Harrison 3 girls came up to me together and wanted to do me for 1000 each. They were pretty young girls but they kind of caught me off-guard as I was a bit worried about raising eyebrows at the Aloha Hotel and also about keeping an eye on 3 girls in my room at the same time. I passed on them, but maybe next time.
Hopefully make it back to Phil later this year and will be reading this great forum before I go.
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looking for chic fights
Is there anywhere in philippines where I can see live chic fights?
Looking for boxing wrestling etc. like what you might find in the asianconnection dvds
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Cover Women update
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Hey CL. Any progress to share on the cover women?
:D
GE[/QUOTE]Hi GE
PM Box is free,But the Cover woman wearing the Chinese dress is on assignment in Malaysia,The other one wearing the red dress in China is visiting Family in the Province.SMS me or PM me If you want other options.Cheers
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[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Hi GE
PM Box is free,But the Cover woman wearing the Chinese dress is on assignment in Malaysia,The other one wearing the red dress in China is visiting Family in the Province.SMS me or PM me If you want other options.Cheers[/QUOTE]
Sure CL let's explore some other options. I will give you a call from Davao the day before I come to Manila.
:D
GE
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Thailand
John05,
Having spent quite a bit of time in both cities recently, I vote for Bangkok. IMHO, both prices and service are better. Prices for reasonable quality in Manila can be 2,500 - 3,000 pesos from the bars and 1,000 pesos from freelancers. Most Thai pros can speak enough English to get by.
Just my POV.
OAH
[QUOTE=John05]I am not sure to go to Thailand or Manila. How much are the girls in Manila? They look ok from what I can see in the photos? Bangkok is between $25 to $50 for LT. Depends on which one you find and how you negotiate. Nice thing about the Phils is that they speak English. That would be a nice change. With over 20 hours of flying and a short vacation I do not think that I will make it to the provinces. The last thing I need on a vacation is 5 to 10 hours of more travelling.[/QUOTE]
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Looks like a spate of hotel-rate increases in Manila recently (in fact, maybe the whole country). Place I was staying at is now P1,349, up from P999 just two years ago. Some of it is no doubt blamed on the VAT, which went up by 2% on Feb. 1. But supply/demand is also letting them get away with it, as places all over the PI aren't nearly as built-up as Thailand and other better-established tourist destinations. So it doesn't take much of a tourism increase to fill the places out.
With L.A. Cafe and Amazonia it helps to scope out the place a lot at first, even if you aren't in a heavy take-out mode. Many of the girls are real pros and show up night after night, sometimes even on the same "turf" (like it was a lunchroom in high school!) The main complaint about L.A. I hear is that the pros and hardened older ones have become too dominant in the mix, but I think Amazonia can also be prone to that at times and L.A. Cafe still has a lot of volume. The upstairs at L.A., with the Korean section and the band section and P100/150 cover charges most nights, is less hectic than it once was and easy for getting a seat now. But also fewer girls on the band side (though still some). The downstairs main area can be uncomfortably crowded a lot of the time (though the crowds make it harder for the "mamasans" to operate (not that you really need one anyway, and they certainly don't work for the bar!)
A few other places in the area, like Butterfly Bar (near Amazonia), Stringfellow's (across from L.A.) and another further up del Pilar whose name escapes me are operating on a barfine model, where the girls work for the bar and you have to pay a certain amount in lady drinks to be able to take the girl out. You can be looking at P1,000-2,500 for the bar (1,000-1,500 most typical) and 1,500 to 3,000 for the girl. Given the price comparison with the freelance spots, I'd say you have to be pretty taken with the girl to pay the premium. A few are real stunners, though, and prices are in line with Pasay and the EDSA entertainment complex.
Personally, am finding that if L.A. Cafe can keep me supplied with good girls at P1,000-1,500 total, I'm not motivated to head to Angeles as quickly. Would have been unthinkable 7 years ago that Manila could take time away from Angeles on a trip, but if Manila can hit the same ballpark on price, then advantages on restaurants, bookstores, movies, malls, etc., all in walking or taxi distance (also: no trikes!) loom larger, asthe rap on Angeles has lways been "nothing to do during the day" (less so than ever, but still much more so than Manila).
As for Bangkok, IMO it has come a long way down, in large part due to crackdowns. On the business side you've still got B600 + 1,000 (though they'l try for 1,500-2,000) in damage from the bars and same thing minus the barfine from Thermae's. But the freelance places are shadows of their former selves, and crackdowns on closing times and nudity have also squeezed the life out of many places (somewhat deliberately, perhaps). If you saw it 7 years ago and were just coming back you'd be very discouraged by all the changes. Pattaya has not quite had the same damage and has later hours and more places with "showing"; you won't save money vs. Bangkok if you do take-out from the go-gos, but if your time is limited that still might be the way to go, as hunting in the beer bars or on the beach road can be time-consuming if you're selective.
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Cebu Local
Hi CL,
I want to send you a pm, but your box is full. PLease let me know when you have cleared some.
Thanks,
Tiger
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[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Well I can help you get discounted hotel rooms in Makati,If you are fine with about 20$-25$ a day for the room,I can get you one in the Burgos Makati Avenue area.I speak fluent Filipino and Cebuano so I can give you some advice in that area.But I am not into American women ,No I dont hate them,Its just my taste runs into Chinese women.Heck,I can spring for drinks or Lunch for you guys when you get in.But I will pass on the AW.Just drop me a PM or an SMS when you get in.Cheers[/QUOTE]Hi,
I wonder if you know any good tagalog school for foreigners? please let me know.
Thanks
TB
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first trip
Hi Guys,
Booked my first trip to the Phils yesterday, four days only, will be arriving tomorrow. Just done my "homework". Ie., reading the ISG.
Disco's:
The below listing I found on the web. Could anyone perhaps tell if any on the list will be good for a visit? The Ambassador hotel (Ermita/Malate) seems to be having a revolving disco with bayview, is this place worthwile checking out?
Freelancers:
Am not to keen on barfine type of deal, so after some reading, I understand that LA Cafe and Amazonia are the best places for checking freelancers. However, I also read that it might better to save these for Sunday, Monday, etc. nights as the girl ratio will be higher than Fridays/Saturdays. Outside these venues, are there any other that are good for freelancer pick up? G-Point perhaps? Starbucks at Greenbelt3? Any other?
Mall hunting:
Robinson's and Harrison Plaza?
Pharmacies:
Something else -perhaps a tiny bit outside the usual- I read on an another website that as there seems to be quite some uncovered action, some areas have a high instance of chlamydia. The odd uncovered BBBJ won't be unthinkable, are there any pharmacies selling antibiotics like azithromycin without prescription?
Many thanks, cheers.
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Cats
Address: New World Hotel
Pasay Road, Makati City,
Manila, Philippines
Euphoria
Address: 1 Ayala Avenue (Intercontinental Hotel)
Makati City, Manila
Philippines
Phone: 815-97-11 (loc. 877)
Harlequin
Address: Shangri-la's EDSA Plaza Hotel
1 Garden Way, Ortigas Center
Mandaluyong City, Manila,
Philippines
Phone: 633-88-88 (loc. 2603)
Kudos Disco
Address: 3rd Floor Makati Creekside Bldg.
Amorsolo cor. Herrera sts.
Makati City, Philippines
Mars
Address: 2 Pasay Road cor. Makati Avenue
San Lorenzo Village,
Makati City, Manila
Philippines
Phone: 815-12-58 / 817-27-29
Studebaker
Address: Glorietta III Ayala Center
Manila, Philippine
Phone: 893-1836
Zu
Address: Makati Avenue cor.
Ayala Avenue.
Makati City, Manila
Philippines
Phone: 813-8888
Kudos Disco
Address: 3rd Floor Makati Creekside Bldg.
Amorsolo cor. Herrera sts.
Makati City, Philippines
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Hey Joel
Thanks for the disco list. There's also a dance floor at Hard Rock Cafe in Makati. Also, some of the bar girls told me about a place in Ermita. Forgot the name...texas...cow boy??? There is a place in Malate with the same name. Never been to either and don't remember any reviews being posted here.
As for LA cafe, check it our in the late afternoon before it gets crowded. You can sometimes find a diamond in the rough. But...one girl I had in the afternoon apparently had a curfew. Well, that's what she said anyway.
With only four days I'd say get your butt to EDSA and pay the bar fine.
X
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Cowboy Grill
Its called Cowboy Grill, huge place, live band and lots of babes. Been there once with a girl I got friendly with from Stardust KTV. Its alright, lots of locals.
IB
[QUOTE=X Man]Thanks for the disco list. There's also a dance floor at Hard Rock Cafe in Makati. Also, some of the bar girls told me about a place in Ermita. Forgot the name...texas...cow boy??? There is a place in Malate with the same name. Never been to either and don't remember any reviews being posted here.
As for LA cafe, check it our in the late afternoon before it gets crowded. You can sometimes find a diamond in the rough. But...one girl I had in the afternoon apparently had a curfew. Well, that's what she said anyway.
With only four days I'd say get your butt to EDSA and pay the bar fine.
X[/QUOTE]
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2 photos
Prices going up?
Came into town last week. Taxi took me for a ride to a bar. Girls were young, got myself a cute one for $50.00 a day. I use to pay $11 to $15 a day, what happened? End up she was to immature and sent her back. Was boring anyways, she barely put out. Got another taxi driver and he took me to a better place. Lined up about 20 girls I spoke to them and told them what I wanted. Told them if there not interested in pleasing me to leave, that was cool because some of them did. Anyways got a really, really pretty girl. She dressed nice, wore makeup, nice rings on her hands too. She was a nice girl and she respected my wishes which was fucking. She loved it too. I really like her except would like a little more wild girl. Here is some nic pics of the girls, beautiful, beautiful that's why I keep coming back!!
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[QUOTE=Joel Goodson]Pharmacies:
Something else -perhaps a tiny bit outside the usual- I read on an another website that as there seems to be quite some uncovered action, some areas have a high instance of chlamydia. The odd uncovered BBBJ won't be unthinkable, are there any pharmacies selling antibiotics like azithromycin without prescription?[/QUOTE]Can't speak for Manila, but in the provences I've never had a problem getting any antibiotic I wanted.
I've always just gone up to the counter at Mercury, tell them what I want, and Viola.
Alot cheaper than here in the states too! LOL
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Barryforyou wrote
"Taxi took me for a ride to a bar. Girls were young, got myself a cute one for $50.00 a day. I use to pay $11 to $15 a day, what happened"
When was the last time you were in Manila??? That is the standard rate for DEC and EDSA. And what bars to you go to?
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Manila tips
Joel,
My two cents:
-LA Cafe is hit and miss. Quantity is there but the quality is hard to find at times. Pay P100/150 and check out the upper section. This is called the "Korean" section due to the high number of Korean visitors. A friend of mine who went upstairs told me that he felt discriminated because most of the girls ignored him. The Koreans have cast their spell on the girls.
-G Point is a good choice. For best selection, visit on different days and time.
-You may have better luck at Harrison Plaza. Dont rush and select the first one! Take your time and be prepared for a *little* bargaining.
-If you are going to the Greenbelt area, I recommend a visit to "Cafe Havana". Grab a table outside, sip a beer and be prepared to make eye contact. Visit after 7 PM for best results. If a table is not available outside, go inside and tell the waiter/host to give you the next available table.
Do let us know your trip goes. Good Luck!
~BKKguru
[QUOTE=Joel Goodson]Hi Guys,
Freelancers:
Am not to keen on barfine type of deal, so after some reading, I understand that LA Cafe and Amazonia are the best places for checking freelancers. However, I also read that it might better to save these for Sunday, Monday, etc. nights as the girl ratio will be higher than Fridays/Saturdays. Outside these venues, are there any other that are good for freelancer pick up? G-Point perhaps? Starbucks at Greenbelt3? Any other?
Mall hunting:
Robinson's and Harrison Plaza?[/QUOTE]
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Location, location, location
Where is the "G Point?" What is it? Bar, Disco, etc.
Harrison Plaza? Same questions.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=BKKguru]Joel,
My two cents:
-LA Cafe is hit and miss. Quantity is there but the quality is hard to find at times. Pay P100/150 and check out the upper section. This is called the "Korean" section due to the high number of Korean visitors. A friend of mine who went upstairs told me that he felt discriminated because most of the girls ignored him. The Koreans have cast their spell on the girls.
-G Point is a good choice. For best selection, visit on different days and time.
-You may have better luck at Harrison Plaza. Dont rush and select the first one! Take your time and be prepared for a *little* bargaining.
-If you are going to the Greenbelt area, I recommend a visit to "Cafe Havana". Grab a table outside, sip a beer and be prepared to make eye contact. Visit after 7 PM for best results. If a table is not available outside, go inside and tell the waiter/host to give you the next available table.
Do let us know your trip goes. Good Luck!
~BKKguru[/QUOTE]
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G Point
G Point is ok but selection is not as grande as LA Cafe. There were no girls at G Point when i walked in at 3.30pm but when i left around 4.45 it has maybe 20 freelancers.
Amazonia again is ok but not as plentiful supplied as LAC.
Butterfly rocks can be fun, barfine is 1600p plus tip. Ladt drinks are 210p.
Stringfellows I have never liked, but go and have a look.
LAC, my gf works there on the groundfloor and she refers it as "my office". Well out of six appearances a week she might get 2-4 hits. 3 is her average.
We are in Angeles together and guys there is some very tasty totty here.
Tomorrow im going to Cebu alone for three nights (hopefully GF monthly cycle has arrived by then) so should have something to report on that wonderful city but staying in cheap digs.
Then 3 final nights in Manila with GF before going to Jakarta for a nice diversion on the way home.
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[QUOTE=Billpsu]Where is the "G Point?" What is it? Bar, Disco, etc.
Harrison Plaza? Same questions.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
LA Cafe and G-Point are within *walking* distance of each other. LA Cafe is a bar with a live band on weekends (upstairs in the "Korean" section). You dont have to pay a "bar fine" for the girl. You negotiate and pay the girl directly. Be prepared to bargain. LA Cafe is on M.H. Del Pilar St in Ermita.
In G-Point you will have to pay a bar fine. G- Point is on Padre Fauna between A. Mabini and M. Adriatico. To give you a landmark, it is one block away from Lotus Garden hotel on Padre Fauna.
For Harrison Plaza (Mall) take a taxi. The driver will know where this is. Or get a map of Ermita/Malate area. You will see this mall featured on the map. Be sure that the taxi driver charges you based on meter reading. Be sure to ask as soon as you get into the cab. This is more of an issue after 10 PM at night.
~BKKguru
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Great - thanks, BKKguru. I'll post some reports later.
GPoint, went there last nite for the first time. Much smaller and less busy than LA Cafe, yesterday it had a nice small selection of freelancers available. Left after a few drinks to walk over to LA via Amazonia. On my way, stumbled across a couple of young good looking street walkers on Mamimbi (?) road. Later I saw the same girls again in LA Cafe.
Harisson Plaza, haven't visited there yet, mainly because the ample selection of pussy available around the hotel I'm staying in.
Thanks!
Joel
[QUOTE=BKKguru]Joel,
My two cents:
-LA Cafe is hit and miss. Quantity is there but the quality is hard to find at times. Pay P100/150 and check out the upper section. This is called the "Korean" section due to the high number of Korean visitors. A friend of mine who went upstairs told me that he felt discriminated because most of the girls ignored him. The Koreans have cast their spell on the girls.
-G Point is a good choice. For best selection, visit on different days and time.
-You may have better luck at Harrison Plaza. Dont rush and select the first one! Take your time and be prepared for a *little* bargaining.
-If you are going to the Greenbelt area, I recommend a visit to "Cafe Havana". Grab a table outside, sip a beer and be prepared to make eye contact. Visit after 7 PM for best results. If a table is not available outside, go inside and tell the waiter/host to give you the next available table.
Do let us know your trip goes. Good Luck!
~BKKguru[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Hobby Knob]Can't speak for Manila, but in the provences I've never had a problem getting any antibiotic I wanted.
I've always just gone up to the counter at Mercury, tell them what I want, and Viola.
Alot cheaper than here in the states too! LOL[/QUOTE]
Thanks for this, Hobby!
Same here in Manila. I found out yesterday after reading your post.
There's a mercury here just round the corner of the hotel I'm staying, had absolutely no prob in getting what I asked for without a prescription.
Cheers,
Joel
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g point
[QUOTE=BKKguru]In G-Point you will have to pay a bar fine. G- Point is on Padre Fauna between A. Mabini and M. Adriatico. To give you a landmark, it is one block away from Lotus Garden hotel on Padre Fauna.
BKKguru[/QUOTE]Thats bollocks as far as I know because I tooka girl out of there on Friday and no barfine was payable.
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C'mon Joel
Joel, seems you have both hotel and pharmacy info, but it doesn't help the rest of us if we don't know which hotel you're staying in.
X
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Cowboy Grill
CAN ANYONE GIVE ME THE LOCATION OF THE COWBOY GRILLE.
THANK YOU.
[QUOTE=X Man]Joel, seems you have both hotel and pharmacy info, but it doesn't help the rest of us if we don't know which hotel you're staying in.
X[/QUOTE]
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Cowboy Grill
A. Mabini cor. Arquiza Sts.
Malate
Manila
Tel. 525-1474, 525-4269
Open for dinner
Open from 7pm to 1am, Monday to Saturday
Cuisine: Filipino, Grill
Bar type: Live Band, Music Bar
Credit cards accepted: All major credit cards
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apartment girls
Fellow mongers,
Try out the apartment girls. Ask you friendly taxi driver to take you. There should be 40-60 girls available in a large room for your perusal. The price is 3000 overnight. suggest go early.
Enjoy
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new to this
Hey,
I'm new to this, so I don't know exactly what to do. My friend told me about this site, but that was it. He's not really into Filipinas, but I am. What do you guys think about the women? Can anyone lead me in the right direction?
How do they look?
How do I get into contact with them?
What should I be aware of?
Is it strictly business? They don't reveal anything about their personal lives, do they?
CRD176
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billpsu
bill...go to LA cafe and ask one of the girls. They'll know where it is...not sure if they'll be able to give you understandable directions though. You can always take them with you!
Sorry, I don't know the exact location. There is one you can see from the Malate Church/fountain. There is also one in Ermita...mabye on Mabini down toward Rizal Park.
If you want to post a report, hit the button on the top left. The last post, I think you hit the Quote button and the quote was irrelevant to your post.
X
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[QUOTE=Billpsu]CAN ANYONE GIVE ME THE LOCATION OF THE COWBOY GRILLE.
THANK YOU.[/QUOTE]
It is on the other side of the park next to Aristocrat on Roxas Bl. But, why would you want to go there? A driver once took us there because we wanted to listen to music and didn't know where to go. The entertainment was average and it looked like a bunch of driver-type people in there.
However, the driver was propositioned several times by girls and pimps while waiting for us. I've walked through the park and had several propositions but never really looked at the girls.
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[QUOTE=Billpsu]CAN ANYONE GIVE ME THE LOCATION OF THE COWBOY GRILLE.
THANK YOU.[/QUOTE]
Hi Bill,
I was in Cowboy Grille last Monday nite, but only for about 15 minutes. It's a spacious Music Bar/Live band restaurant that caters mainly for the locals.
Dosug already has given the address - its on the corner of Mabini and Arquiza in Emrita, only a block away from Robinson's Plaza.
At the time I was there, there were only locals dining/drinking at tables and listening to the Live band. I could not see of any action, but that might have to do with the time of my visit, ie. Monday nite at 10.30 pm.
Perhaps when the tables get cleared in the middle section on the ground floor and the place changes into more of a Bar/dancing kind of venue, things might be quite different!
Cheers,
Joel
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Hotel
[QUOTE=X Man]Joel, seems you have both hotel and pharmacy info, but it doesn't help the rest of us if we don't know which hotel you're staying in.
X[/QUOTE]
X, I stayed in Bayview Park Hotel, Ermita.
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Mattrick,
I might as well post my reply here.
I booked the hotel via [url]http://www.asiatravel.com[/url] for 75 US per nite for a suite. Maybe a little on the expensive side - another guy I met in the plane going to Manila was staying at the same hotel for only half the price, US$ 37 for a standard room. Maybe he found a cheaper website, asiatravel quotes for the standard room US$ 45.
Bayview is a good hotel, has friendly staff and great coffees, ie. it has a Starbucks on the ground floor. Another good thing about it is its central location and proximity to the Ermita nitelife. A lot of the action - the freelancer bars and other - is only within 5 to 10 minutes walking from the hotel. Also the Swagman hotel is just round the corner of it, where you could book possible trips to Angeles.
When I arrived the first night I was a bit wary of the fact that the hotel did not have any in-room safes. It has safety deposit boxes -they give you a key- at the reception for the most important stuff like passports, but what about expensive handphones?
I hid the thing somewhere in the room before I went out the first time, but as it turned out, it was no prob at all having someone over LT. The security at night is excellent. They record the ID and roomnumber of any girl before she enters the hotel and also the reception takes a note. When the girl is leaving, security calls back and ask you politely if it is okay for her to leave.
Mind you, they only to these security readings at nite time. When i brought girls in during the daytime, no ID's were taken. So I guess, if you are stayin at this hotel and you don't trust the girl, don't fall asleep during the daytime or sleep in big time!
I'll attach a pic.
One more thing, I had not visited Manila before, but I deliberately choose for this hotel because I wanted to stay at a central location in Ermita. Having seen the action in both Ermita and Makati now, my perception is that Ermita -compared to Makati- is more the rougher end of town. For more upmarket entertainment, in terms of quality of the girls/prices/etc., Makati will be a better choice.
Cheers,
Joel
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Some pharmacy info
[QUOTE=X Man]Joel, seems you have both hotel and pharmacy info, but it doesn't help the rest of us if we don't know which hotel you're staying in.
X[/QUOTE]
Hey X, some additional pharmacy info.
Thanks to Hobby's reply, I asked around for Mercury drugstore. I found one close to the hotel, on TM Kalaw. That's the road that runs parallel to UN ave.
At the counter I simply asked for the antibiotics I wanted, a single dose of Zithromax and Ciproxin, and also asked for a tablet Viagra. Got it all, no prescription, no questions asked!
The Viagra tablet, 50mg, cost me 615 Pesos. I also asked the price for Cialis, and was quoted 700 Pesos.
In one of the bars, the price for a package of Cialis costs 1,200 Pesos. A street seller quoted me for a same package 300 Pesos, but I find that price hard to believe. Rather prefer to buy it at Mercury, eventhough it is more expensive.
Funny thing was, when I checked at Watson drug, at Mabini/Padre Faura, they did not want to sell Cialis/Viagra without a prescription!
Joel.
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Short Time Hotel
Can I Get The Name An Location Of A Short Time Hotel Near The La Cafe.
Thank You
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Motel
[QUOTE=Billpsu]Can I Get The Name An Location Of A Short Time Hotel Near The La Cafe.
Thank You[/QUOTE]Anito. Lodge,Victoria Court and Sogo are Chains with branches all over
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[QUOTE=Billpsu]Can I Get The Name An Location Of A Short Time Hotel Near The La Cafe.
Thank You[/QUOTE]
Bill, the girls will be able to tell you, no doubt.
I think the Sogo will cost you 200 Pesos, but I haven't been there.
Amazonia hotel, across the road from LA Cafe, has rooms upstairs. The rooms are 550 for 3 hours, are clean and have shower and TV. These rooms are actually quite nice for a ST hotel.
Amazonia has also what they call VIP rooms, but there is absolutely nothing "VIP" about it. No bed, only chairs/couch and a lousy bathroom. I think these rooms cost 300 pesos.
There's another short time hotel available, on Mabini. Pls see my post in the photo gallery. Costs 450, clean but no shower in the room.
If you don't mind spending an extra 100 Pesos, it might be better to choose a ST room in Amazonia.
Joel.
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manila
Only problem with Cowboy Grill is that they only serve San Mig in large bottles or pitchers, no small bottles like us foreigners enjoy swiging out of.
Im staying at Bayview hotel on Saturday for my last three nights. Will be with my gf so safes are not an issue. Got a superior room for $60.00.
My gf sister was in a jeepney going home to Quezon City from la cafe last night and the jeepney got held up. She lost her cellfone (1 week old) and 7k pesos.
Went to this shorttime hotellast week. very clean and cost was about 600p for 3 hours. The stime hotel was called Victoria Court.
Now in Cebu and the crumpet here looking very pleasing to the eye. I think the filopino guys here are uglier than their manila counterparts. No wonder the girls want a foreigner.
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Lets avoid Racist baiting.
[QUOTE=Asiafloyd}
Now in Cebu and the crumpet here looking very pleasing to the eye. I think the filopino guys here are uglier than their manila counterparts. No wonder the girls want a foreigner.[/QUOTE]Lets not get into racist baiting here shall we,It is quiet and peaceful in the PI boards and relatively flame free.Besides speaking both Cebuano and Tagalog,I hear what some girls really think of their partners.Peace Dude
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Mercury Drug
Hi, Joel:
Thanks for your posts. The information is precise and helpful.
I would not buy tablets on the street. Based on earlier posts, I believe they are fake.
The Viagra price of 615 P converts to US$12. That is expensive. Are you suggesting Mercury will sell *one* pill only?
~BKKguru
[QUOTE=Joel Goodson]Hey X, some additional pharmacy info.
The Viagra tablet, 50mg, cost me 615 Pesos. I also asked the price for Cialis, and was quoted 700 Pesos.
In one of the bars, the price for a package of Cialis costs 1,200 Pesos. A street seller quoted me for a same package 300 Pesos, but I find that price hard to believe. Rather prefer to buy it at Mercury, eventhough it is more expensive.
Joel.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BKKguru]Hi, Joel:
Thanks for your posts. The information is precise and helpful.
I would not buy tablets on the street. Based on earlier posts, I believe they are fake.
The Viagra price of 615 P converts to US$12. That is expensive. Are you suggesting Mercury will sell *one* pill only?
~BKKguru[/QUOTE]
Guru,
I agree, 12 US is a bit expensive for one pill.
I bought it at Mercury for the same reason as you mention, just to avoid fakes and hassling on the streets.
I asked only for one pill. I guess for that price -the 12 US- they will be happy to sell many.
Cheers,
Joel.
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[QUOTE=BKKguru]Hi, Joel:
Thanks for your posts. The information is precise and helpful.
I would not buy tablets on the street. Based on earlier posts, I believe they are fake.
The Viagra price of 615 P converts to US$12. That is expensive. Are you suggesting Mercury will sell *one* pill only?
~BKKguru[/QUOTE]Yes Mercury or Watsons is willing to sell one pill only at a time.Cheers
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mercury drugstore
I went to Mercury Drug on Osmena and bought one of those tablet cutters. cost 170p. Better than trying to cut with a knive.
Do all Mercury drugstores sell Cialis without script.
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No, they don"t...
You can find both individual Rose Pharmacies and Mercury Drugs that will sell without prescription, but not all of them will do so. I've found that you're usually better off waiting until a man is available behind the counter, though I've found some women working in the pharmacies who were willing to sell it without script as well. Fortunately, there are so many pharmacies in Manila that you're likely never to be very far from one that will accommodate your needs for Cialis or Viagra.
:D
GE
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Street C and V
I bought some C and V off the street in Angeles awhile back and compared it to some some stuff I had taken over. The stuff off the street worked fine...even better on some days then the original stuff I carried over. Of course my research was biased because I was shaggin' a different piece of ass every day, and then again a different piece of ass that same night. I'll try shaggin' some old, ugly, and fat western women to see if my research holds true...or not!
Yella Man
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There is a 24 hour pharacy around the corner from Burgos that sells both. If you are coming from Buendia (Puyat), right before you get to Burgos there is a restaurant that sells the meat on the sticks. There is a small pharmacy right next to it (to the right if you are facing it) with a counter. Just ask them for it and they will give it to you. I don't know the prices because I've never bought it but my BIL goes there all of the time.
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Pharmacy s Name
[QUOTE=Sugoi]There is a 24 hour pharacy around the corner from Burgos that sells both. If you are coming from Buendia (Puyat), right before you get to Burgos there is a restaurant that sells the meat on the sticks. There is a small pharmacy right next to it (to the right if you are facing it) with a counter. Just ask them for it and they will give it to you. I don't know the prices because I've never bought it but my BIL goes there all of the time.[/QUOTE]
It is called Pharma Quick located beside Quick Stomach,The other is called E Mart on Makati avenue infront of City Garden,besides the Shakeys Pizza Parlor
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Robinson's Plaza
I read on a website, that sometimes some action can be found in Robinson's plaza.
Went there last weekend to check it out, but could not see of any. It looks very similar to mall hunting as anywhere else in Asia, requiring a good nose and some available time to invest, I guess. Didn't have any luck and unfortunately lacked time.
Here are some pics of girls I had drinks and a chat with, nothing else. They just smiled at me as they were passing by and when I smiled back they were too happy to join for a drink.
No freelancers, just ordinary girls. I was attracted by the second set of girls at McD. The one in the foreground worked at a travel agent and wanted to come with me back to my hotel. Talking to her however, she looked a bit high in maintenance and as I had plans to go to Makati that nite, I politely said no.
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[QUOTE=Sugoi]There is a 24 hour pharacy around the corner from Burgos that sells both. If you are coming from Buendia (Puyat), right before you get to Burgos there is a restaurant that sells the meat on the sticks. There is a small pharmacy right next to it (to the right if you are facing it) with a counter. Just ask them for it and they will give it to you. I don't know the prices because I've never bought it but my BIL goes there all of the time.[/QUOTE]
Sugoi, sorry, I am not a local, what does BIL stands for?
Cheers,
Joel.
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Guessing
[QUOTE=Joel Goodson]Sugoi, sorry, I am not a local, what does BIL stands for?
Cheers,
Joel.[/QUOTE]Brother in Law???
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[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Brother in Law???[/QUOTE]
Yah, Brother-in-Law... Sorry...
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bar earnings
[QUOTE=Asiafloyd]
LAC, my gf works there on the groundfloor and she refers it as "my office". Well out of six appearances a week she might get 2-4 hits. 3 is her average.
We are in Angeles together and guys there is some very tasty totty here.
Tomorrow im going to Cebu alone for three nights (hopefully GF monthly cycle has arrived by then) so should have something to report on that wonderful city but staying in cheap digs.
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3 per week seems a low but fair hitrate. I guess that will be the avarage for many freelance girls working in LA/Amazonia/Gpoint?
Making a quick calculation - 3 hits at 1500, will be 4500 Pesos. So say, the average pretty freelancer earns around 5000 Pesos per week in the freelance cafes? That's around 100 USD per week. Will that be a fair estimate?
How would this compare to Makati bar earnings?
Cheers,
Joel.
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Amazonia Hotel
I stayed several days at Amazonia, My buddy stayed there a couple weeks. It is not only a short time, but you can stay longer. The rooms are real clean, furnishings new. I think the desk has decent security. If you want to be in the middle of the action for cheap, this would be your place. The real drawback is the rooms are LOUD! sometimes it sounds like a Jeepny is driving right thru your room, crank up the TV, bring earplugs to sleep. Shades dont really darken room either, so I slept with sunglasses on after I partied hard. Also, you go right thru the bar to get to your room, so some of your earlier conquests may see who you come and go. But if youre looking for a clean place to crash, shower and shag, you cant beat the price.
Me and my mates stayed at Swagman a few days and I got a real nice room but my buddy got a room with cold tile floor with a 13" TV across the room. Same price so YMMV. I was joking that he needed binoculars to watch TV haha
OD
[QUOTE=Joel Goodson]Bill, the girls will be able to tell you, no doubt.
I think the Sogo will cost you 200 Pesos, but I haven't been there.
Amazonia hotel, across the road from LA Cafe, has rooms upstairs. The rooms are 550 for 3 hours, are clean and have shower and TV. These rooms are actually quite nice for a ST hotel.
Amazonia has also what they call VIP rooms, but there is absolutely nothing "VIP" about it. No bed, only chairs/couch and a lousy bathroom. I think these rooms cost 300 pesos.
There's another short time hotel available, on Mabini. Pls see my post in the photo gallery. Costs 450, clean but no shower in the room.
If you don't mind spending an extra 100 Pesos, it might be better to choose a ST room in Amazonia.
Joel.[/QUOTE]
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Victoria VIP Suites
Passed through Manila Thursday morning. The SFO flight arrrived early, 4:30 am and my connecting flight was at 12:00. Called (woked up actually) a friend who works at Star Trek and she was more than glad to meet. She picked me up at the airport at 5:30 am and we went to Victoria Court. (MOTEL RATE 1650 PHP for 5 hours.) Had a shower and jacuzzi with my friend, and it was a great refresher to be bathed, sucked and fucked... She was a great BBBJ girl, 22, cute, petite and was a great cowgirl too.
Was it 3 or 4 rounds of "waking up sex"? Left Victoria 9:30 am very awake and refreshed, gave my friend 1,500 PHP, and off i went to catch my transit flight. I love Manila.
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My first visit
Hai all,
I will be in Manila at the end of April. Thinking of staying at Mabini Apt. Would brothers please give some tips on things to do and review about Mabini?
Thanking in advance. Bye
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Amazonia
Went there the other night because LA Cafe was so full one could not even walk around, and it was very dead. Even the girls that were there hung out in groups and didn't seem interested at all. As luck would have it though, a girl I knew from a previous visit to LAC introduced me to a very attractive "student next door" type with a killer figure. Glasses, pulled back hair made her look like she just cut class to come in for a drink. Other than that, though, LA Cafe is still the better choice. On a side-note, I've been upstairs every time I went and have to say I'm not impressed with what's supposed to be a higher level of talent, so I will just stick to the downstairs.
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Rttf
[QUOTE=Herasingh]Hai all,
I will be in Manila at the end of April. Thinking of staying at Mabini Apt. Would brothers please give some tips on things to do and review about Mabini?
Thanking in advance. Bye[/QUOTE]
RTFF Newbie
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[QUOTE=Herasingh]Hai all,
I will be in Manila at the end of April. Thinking of staying at Mabini Apt. Would brothers please give some tips on things to do and review about Mabini?
Thanking in advance. Bye[/QUOTE]If you read the forum, you get most of the infos provided. However you are a newbie. Don't worry by the time you get to the taxi and hotel you will be bombarded with infor via taxi cab drivers or hotel employees. Mabini is one big area for nite life. Ermita is the best so far. So be patient you'll see the places and learn the tricks of the trade.
Shukran.
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[QUOTE=Herasingh]Hai all,
I will be in Manila at the end of April. Thinking of staying at Mabini Apt. Would brothers please give some tips on things to do and review about Mabini?
Thanking in advance. Bye[/QUOTE]Pop over to LA Cafe, a good place to start on your first trip to PI, but do take your time, no need be in a hurry, enjoy the sights (girls) some of them are good fun to have a talk and a laugh with, buy them a drink or two (drinks are cheap). Make the selection in your own time - you got all night!
Have fun
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G-Point is fun after 9:30 when the band starts up. It is smaller and less crowded - still crowded but not objectionably so. Get a table next to the dance floor where the girls show off. Y ou iwll have fun flirting with them and should always find one to take back to the hotel.
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Help appreciated
As a newbie to this site, I am coming in April for a week and have read so many reports from the last year that my mind is a whirl with thoughts of the EDSA EC, Burgos Street, LA Cafe, and Robinsons Mall that any help as to what direction to take as I want to experience it all in the six day feast.
Thanks
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Best side trip locale????
I will be in The Philippines in about a week. I am looking for a spot for a side trip. I have been to Bohol, parts of Cebu (Mactan, Malapascua) and would like to try a new destination.
I am interested in a few locations:
- Bantayan Island
- Puerta Galera
- Boracay
I have my babe already. I am looking for a laid-back, 3-day getaway. If you have been to the 3 locations above, please share your thoughts on them! Pros/cons, hotels restaurants, things to do, etc.
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Thanks
Thank you brothers, I'm new in Manila but have been to Thailand (Hadyai, Danuk, Bentong and Sg Golok in Indonesia Bintang, Balai and Medan). If you need any advice regarding South Thailand please seek me
Bye.
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G-Pointless...for me
[QUOTE=J Boy]G-Point is fun after 9:30 when the band starts up. It is smaller and less crowded - still crowded but not objectionably so. Get a table next to the dance floor where the girls show off. Y ou iwll have fun flirting with them and should always find one to take back to the hotel.[/QUOTE]
Based largely on recommendations from this board, I've now been twice to the G-Point, only to be disappointed each time. True, it's got a nice atmosphere and is less crowded and less raunchy than LA, but I've never seen anyone there who is even close to tempting. Maybe I've just been unlucky and/or too impatient, but I cannot see what all the fuss is about.
:D
GE
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g-point location
[QUOTE=Billpsu]LOCATION PLEASE[/QUOTE]
Bill, please find link below. G-point has it's own website.
[url]http://www.gpointmanila.com/location.html[/url]
Cheers,
Joel
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Feedback
[QUOTE=Sir Charles]I will be in The Philippines in about a week. I am looking for a spot for a side trip. I have been to Bohol, parts of Cebu (Mactan, Malapascua) and would like to try a new destination.
I am interested in a few locations:
- Bantayan Island
- Puerta Galera
- Boracay
I have my babe already. I am looking for a laid-back, 3-day getaway. If you have been to the 3 locations above, please share your thoughts on them! Pros/cons, hotels restaurants, things to do, etc.[/QUOTE]Bantayan is the most laidback of the 3 which Boracay was like 15 years ago,Beach is about 7-8,But it is quiet and relaxing,Puerto Galera is the midway between the 2 in terms of nightlife Bars and Restaurants But has the worst beach of the 3,Boracay has the best beach and the best nightlife of the 3,But Its going to filled with Tens of thousands of Koreans,Europeans,Locals Think Bali.Cheers
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[QUOTE=Euaue]As a newbie to this site, I am coming in April for a week and have read so many reports from the last year that my mind is a whirl with thoughts of the EDSA EC, Burgos Street, LA Cafe, and Robinsons Mall that any help as to what direction to take as I want to experience it all in the six day feast.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Strategicly I would suggest go to Burgos St. and LA CAfe. Edsa and Robinsons Mall next. Reason being is in first 2 you will find all the working girls you need. Edsa you can find some amatuers and at Robinsons Mall you can find a lot of non pros. By that time you hit all of the places in one week. You may also do it the other way, by that time you tried from Non pro to Pros before you leave.
Either or a lot of action takes place in Manila you'll never miss it.
Cheers
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Thanks, Cebu Local!!
It seems so hard to get responses from people on this board! Perhaps it is because I rarely post - I merely lurk. I appreciate the info.
Boracay, TENS OF THOUSANDS! Are there that many people there? Yikes!
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[QUOTE=Sir Charles]It seems so hard to get responses from people on this board! Perhaps it is because I rarely post - I merely lurk. I appreciate the info.
Boracay, TENS OF THOUSANDS! Are there that many people there? Yikes![/QUOTE]SC,
I have not been to Bantayan Island but I heard its great. By the places you mentioned I have been to PG and Boracay. As Cebu local said Boracay is packed. Puerto Gallera is good because of its location. Its also a tourist spot but close to the city( Manila).
I can suggest other places like Palawan Puerto Princesa for its natural beauty and wild life. Not much tourist and have nice sandy beaches. Another is Ceby itself which has beaches and hotels. I am talking about 5 star quality with casinos. A lot of monger buddies hit those places if you want to stay away from Boracay.
If you want you can also go to Subic Bay in Zambales. About 3 hr ride from Manila ( Traffic permitting). Its close to the city and they have a lot of chicas to see. Downside is since its a former US Naval facility. Tourist or should I say mongers lirks in the area.
Have fun.
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I went to a massage parlor today by Quezon Ave. Paid 1000 pesos for the entrance. I had the privilage to look at the window and choice the chica. Minutes later I was taken to a small cubicle and wait for my price.
She comes in and had me undressed. Gave me a decent massage with the common question " Lotion or Powder sir" ? Of course lotion. I told her during the session if she could do extras. She replied of course. She was a Vizayan beauty from Samar and had a killer body. Height was about 4'11 and light skinned beauty. Asked for 2K for full service I said, hell no! We neg. for a half rate of 1k with half half. She started with a bbj and then the rubber went on. We did CG doggie and finished with a mish.
Downside is she has too much make up. What up with that. I can barely kiss them on the cheeks because of so much powder.
Will try another place next time.
Ciao
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There are many, many MPs around so I'm sure you won't be at a loss to find others.
Went to a few different clubs over the last few days. Went to Miss Universe again on Saturday night but took 2 girls with me who I thought were better looking than the girls there. For those of you who aren't familiar with the place, it is on FB Harrison at Libertad in Pasay and has over 300 girls working there. The girls are decent looking but there doesn't seem to be as many "stunners" as I recall from last year.
One girl had her solo act where she smoked 3 cigarettes down there and then returned them to the customers' mouths after she was finished. She also placed some ice cubes up there and dropped them back into customers' cups.
Also went to a place down the street called Monriz. This caters to locals but it is a more intimate setting. They have about 25 girls and the stage is right in front of the tables. The girls are about 5 feet from the tables and most are decent looking. Most will dance fully nude and it is cheaper than MU down the street. Didn't go in the VIP rooms but anything goes inside them. Monriz won't let you bring girls in.
I went to another place on Taft, just south of Libertad called Vocano (no "L" in the name) This place is about the same size as MU but has a smaller stage only elevated about a foot and also has some good looking girls. My friend took a girl in a VIP room last year and I think it was about 1500 and had his way with the girl. Prices are similar to Monriz and cheaper than MU.
Yesterday I went to a place in Paranaque called Kalesa grill. A decent sized place with about 30 girls and some will dance completely nude. They also have an "area time" where the girls are fully nude and will go to various customers for lap dances. I brought a girl to this place also so none of them came to me. We had 4 beers, 1 drink for a girl and our entrance fee and the bill came to 750. The LD was 420 which is more than MU and I heard anything goes in the VIP rooms here also.
I passed Starfleet on the way there and saw that they have wet Thai massages. Anyone tried those?
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Manila room
If you have a nice place with a maid and cook, and if you have an extra room in your house, apt. or condo that I can lease for several months I would really appreciate it. I want to come to the Phillipines from the states for a nice change. I am a bachelor and like that Filipino women are beautiful, plentiful, and aim to please. I am a good sport, low key, no trouble, and financially secure.
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Thanks Arzy69
I appreciate the information about Boracay - looks like a no go. Not a big crowd guy. Sounds like Bantayan Island or Palawan is the move. Thanks!
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borocay.
Borocay wasn't too bad.
You just had to take time to choose the chicas.
And its more expensive than Makati, Manila.
Its probably a good idea to pickup an attractive girl and then take her to Borocay.
If its constant action that you after and its Angeles City that you need to go to.
for a nice hotel and good looking chicas.
Skyline health studios.
Level 8 grand boulevard hotel.
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borocay.
Borocay is an excellent place.
Everything is more expensive compared to Angeles City, Makati.
If you can find a girlfriend from makati & manila on your visit.
Then take the holiday to Borocay.
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Manila happenings
Finally made it to gpoint. Small frelancer bar, nothing special. The nice thing is that there are now 4 bars in the area with a good selection of freelancers, all within walking distance - LA cafe, Amazonia, Jurassic, and Gpoint. I can remember when LA cafe was the only game in town. However, There are still more women in LA cafe then all of the other bars put together, but it is good to have a selection of bars nonetheless.
Visions has closed. This was one of my favorite bars in Passay, but it out there by itself on Roxas and couldn't find enough customers. It always appeared that were losing money, and they just now gave up. A couple of the mamas went to Pitstop, and the girls went all over.
Cotton club has a couple of really cute new girls, but they are Japanese only. I'll be back when I have some more time to convince them to give an American a try.
I was VERY impressed with the selection at the Firehouse at Midnight, the Saturday night before last . About 60 girls, and about 5 who were hot, new, and just my type. I can't remember a bar having more than 2 or 3 girls who I wanted to barfine, let alone 5. Finally made my choice, and she was great. Of course, I was back a couple of days later at about 9:00, and didn't even find a single girl to my liking. When the firehouse is on, it is ON, but it is difficult to know when that will be. Weekends are defininately better then weekdays at EDSA. It is often better to get there early, before the cute ones are gone, which is why I was so surprised to find such a great selection there at Midnight. I will back there next Saturday at the same time to see if it was just a fluke, or if it is really a key time to go.
I just passed Vocano the other night and wondered about the place. Thanks Sugoi for the update. I will definately check it out.
I also had a great girl from Rascals the other night. 18, petite with a beautiful hard body. She is the March 21 picture on my photo blog [url]www.**********.com/*********[/url] . Of course, with a 3,000 bar fine, I don't take girls from Rascals very often, but I decided to make an exception with her.
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Hotels near LA Cafe???
What are the closest 'girl friendly' hotels near LA Cafe ? I will be there this Friday 31st March, anyone wanna meet up for a drink?
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Manila Tips
I will be on my first trip to Manila for 6 days from 1st April 2006, I have read most of the previous posts and have gathered a lot of inofrmation, I would like to have information on the following
1. I will be staying the Crown Plaza Galeeria (connected to robinsons mall)
is this hotel girl friendly - what are the best options avilable withing walking distance from this hotel.
2. Whats the best place to have a thai style body-to-body oil massage.
3. is it possible to get a rim job in any of the massage parlors or from any of the girls from the bars.
Your help would be hihgly appreciated.
King
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Trip to the Philippines
Arrived to Manila at 5:00am(direct flight from Canada).Took airport taxi to Hotel.Damage=530PhP(philippines peso).Checked in at the Rothman Inn hotel in Malate(Adriatico and Pedro gil).Damage=1365Php.It is a girly friendly hotel,5 blocks from the LA Cafe.Rooms are ok,but not spectacular.Walked to the LA cafe by 9:00am.Had some beers and looked at the availabilty of girls.Only some 5-6,and a few 7's.Place was empty so I went to check the Amazonia.Place was empty too.Met a cute waitress,and made arrangements to meet after her shift was over(5:00pm).Returned to my hotel to meet with one of my pen-pals,whom I met through Heart of asia.She arrived with her cousin and friend.Wow,what a beautiful girl.Her cousin,and friend were easy on the eye too.We socialized for a little bit,but she had to leave to meet with her aunt,so we made arrangement to meet at a later date.Returned to Amazonia to pick up my waitress.We went shopping at Robinsons,and for some food at the Robinson's food court(on the second floor).I Tried to get her into my hotel room,but had no success.We departed in friendly terms.Maybe next time.End up the evening at the LA cafe.The place was a zoo.There were tons of girls,from beauty queens,to old and ugly(no teeth)ladies.I sat by the bar,which is round in nature,and did not bother to check the second floor.Tons of ladies approached me,including three very pushy agents,who wanted to introduce me to some of their girls.You really don't need them as there are plenty of girls to choose from.One girl informed me that everytime these agents place a girls,they make 100Php of the girl whom they place.A nice lady sat dowm beside me with her girlfriend and we started to talk.She mentioned that both her and her girlfriend could go out with me,and that sometimes they go together to satisfy their costumers.They even do things to each other for that purpose.I declined the offer as I am not into threesomes,and prefer the one-on-one contact.The girls said no problem and her friend just joined another group of girls,At this point,we are really necking at the LA cafe.DFK for hours,while the world around us does not exist.Pretty good GFE.We left the LA cafe and went to the Cowboy Grill.A large place on Mabini street,and Arquizas.,not far away from the LA cafe.We took a Jeepny to get there.I think it was 10php.The CG had a live band.WE had drinks and DKF some more.We went to the hotel,were we had fun.We showered together,and did some heavy DFK while the water was running over our bodies.What a feeling that is.I went down on my knees for some DATY,her knees bending slightly,while her ass was againts the wall.She made some really cute noises,and she tasted so good.Then,it was her turn,to get down on her knees for a BJ.It was ok,but nothing spectacular.We dried up,and went to bed for some TLC.She was pretty good,and curled her toes when she came.I am a feet man and nothing excites me more than a girl's beautiful feet,and curling their toes when they come.In the morning we did it again.I gave her 1500Php for her labor of love.When she departed I took a taxi to AC.Overall,a pretty good experience for my first night in the Philippines.
Life is good,
Avioneto
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Based largely on recommendations from this board, I've now been twice to the G-Point, only to be disappointed each time. True, it's got a nice atmosphere and is less crowded and less raunchy than LA, but I've never seen anyone there who is even close to tempting. Maybe I've just been unlucky and/or too impatient, but I cannot see what all the fuss is about.
:D
GE[/QUOTE]
I logged on to report on a couple of recent interesting happenings but made the mistake of reading a few postings, so now I have to reply to one, here.
G-Point isn't the paramount monger guaranteed 10-pointer 5 minute pickup place. Then again,
it _can_ be (and in my experience) has happened more than a few times. You try your luck, and maybe you find your dream. If not, go for a walk, then go back and find your dream. Of course, I could truthfully say the exact same of any other place - LA, Amazonia, any mall, anywhere. Nothing is 100% guaranteed all the time.
A week or so ago I had a night out with the brothers-in-law; so first (since that's the one place everyone can find) we agreed to meet at G-Point. I wasn't thrilled with the selection at 7pm and
neither were they. Then, one early-20's hot-body insisted on getting my attention. Eventually I told her that she's welcome to hang around, but we have to go for a walk, and if she really wants to wait for me for a few hours, fine, I'll catch her then.
So we made the rounds (which I had intended to post about, and will when I can). This story however has two of us back there around midnight, and this girl is whirling up a storm in front of the band. She's pretty happy (understatement) to see me back there. I tell her to go ahead and dance, we're going to have a beer, since I'm in no hurry having just finished with someone else an
hour earlier.
Eventually she drags me out to dance, which by her definition is to rub her parts all over me and give me a tonsillectomy in front of the band - which I was later told had the yummy band girls eyeing me too.
Though I had earlier talked her down to P1000 (they all ask too much these days), I decided to let
her go with my cell# to call me for "another time", since it was late and I didn't really need a second one that fast that night.
Meanwhile while all this was happening, a really nice girl that I would have gone with got pissed off
because I didn't stop the hot drunk one from dancing on my knee. I neglected to mention 2 other nice ones trying to get my attention earlier, only they were too shy to move on me when they should have.
The point is that at "G", there *are* nice ones, but you have to understand it's just a nice bar where girls of all ages, shapes, sizes, professions (or not) go to either drink or find someone to get laid or both.
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Malate evening
When we went for a walk between G-Point and G-Point on a Saturday night ...
Earlier in the week I mentioned to my (Pinoy) brothers-in-law that the time to go out in Malate is Fri or Sat evening, when the shoolgirls, professionals, and other working (vrs sex-worker) girls have time to go out looking for some hard fun. Fortunately, we did manage to arrange it for Sat night after all.
We had intended to make the rounds, but first one bayou wanted to see if a girl he "knows" might be at LA Cafe, so ok, we go there. Atin barkada orders beer and I say I'll be back in a few minutes after I see who's here. The place is packed at 10pm on a Saturday night, you have to squeeze between girls to walk around. Takes me 3 minutes to get to the other side (a few feet away) and someone really cute hollers my name loud enough to get my attention while jumping off her chair. She reminds me that she met me in G-Point over a year ago, but that night when she really wanted me (for free) I just didn't have enough time. I remember that last year, after a fast BJ in the car while dropping her off home in Pasay, she told me she was leaving for a 1-year overseas contract soon, and now she's just back and luck brought me past her table at just the right moment. So ok, she says, "No more waiting. We go *NOW* I'm horny and I want you NOW! Meron ka pera sa quarto mura sa tulog mamaya?" (or words to that effect, you get the drift. Ok, so it helps to understand a bit of Tagalog.)
I tell her to wait a few minutes, go explain to my brothers-in-law why I have to disappear for an hour, and off we go to make her happy.
Life is tough sometimes!
Point to all this? Met the girl first at G-Point, ran into her a year+ later at LA; finally made her happy after all that time. She's a professional (nurse), not a bar girl, 22 now, and has more money in the bank than I do, so just wanted me and not my money. She just happened to be there on her first night out with her friend, back from her overseas contract.
FWIW, my brothers-in-law later found their own girls, again professionals, not sex-workers, who just wanted to get laid. They went off to a hotel as soon as I got back. Those girls wanted to introduce me to their friend too, but hey, I just got back! The moral? Unless you want to pay for a sex-worker, nice regular girls are usually much more fun and a lot less expensive, in any bar, and if you're around long enough you'll eventually meet your old friends at another bar or the same bar and you won't know which one until it happens.
After all that, now what do I do about the girl waiting for me at G-Point from earlier that night?(see previous posting).
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Good for you
[QUOTE=CanContrib]When we went for a walk between G-Point and G-Point on a Saturday night ...
Earlier in the week I mentioned to my (Pinoy) brothers-in-law that the time to go out in Malate is Fri or Sat evening, when the shoolgirls, professionals, and other working (vrs sex-worker) girls have time to go out looking for some hard fun. Fortunately, we did manage to arrange it for Sat night after all.
We had intended to make the rounds, but first one bayou wanted to see if a girl he "knows" might be at LA Cafe, so ok, we go there. Atin barkada orders beer and I say I'll be back in a few minutes after I see who's here. The place is packed at 10pm on a Saturday night, you have to squeeze between girls to walk around. Takes me 3 minutes to get to the other side (a few feet away) and someone really cute hollers my name loud enough to get my attention while jumping off her chair. She reminds me that she met me in G-Point over a year ago, but that night when she really wanted me (for free) I just didn't have enough time. I remember that last year, after a fast BJ in the car while dropping her off home in Pasay, she told me she was leaving for a 1-year overseas contract soon, and now she's just back and luck brought me past her table at just the right moment. So ok, she says, "No more waiting. We go *NOW* I'm horny and I want you NOW! Meron ka pera sa quarto mura sa tulog mamaya?" (or words to that effect, you get the drift. Ok, so it helps to understand a bit of Tagalog.)I THINK SHE SAID MERON KANG PERA PARA SA MURANG KUWARTO MAMAYA,DO YOU HAVE MONEY FOR A CHEAP ROOM TO SLEEP LATER,THE FORMER SENTENCE WAS GIBBERISH
I tell her to wait a few minutes, go explain to my brothers-in-law why I have to disappear for an hour, and off we go to make her happy.
Life is tough sometimes!
Point to all this? Met the girl first at G-Point, ran into her a year+ later at LA; finally made her happy after all that time. She's a professional (nurse), not a bar girl, 22 now, and has more money in the bank than I do, so just wanted me and not my money. She just happened to be there on her first night out with her friend, back from her overseas contract.
FWIW, my brothers-in-law later found their own girls, again professionals, not sex-workers, who just wanted to get laid. They went off to a hotel as soon as I got back. Those girls wanted to introduce me to their friend too, but hey, I just got back! The moral? Unless you want to pay for a sex-worker, nice regular girls are usually much more fun and a lot less expensive, in any bar, and if you're around long enough you'll eventually meet your old friends at another bar or the same bar and you won't know which one until it happens.
After all that, now what do I do about the girl waiting for me at G-Point from earlier that night?(see previous posting).[/QUOTE]I am glad that you are proof that as long as you give them respect,It is not difficult to get normal girls in the PI.Cheers
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[QUOTE=Cebu Local]I am glad that you are proof that as long as you give them respect,It is not difficult to get normal girls in the PI.Cheers[/QUOTE]
Hoy, CebuL, sempre!
Though I'm sure you and everyone have at some point unfortunately encountered the odd brazen gold-digger, the available Pinay (female) population is, how best to say it ... a gift from heaven.
They're people and mostly very nice people. As long as one doesn't try to take undue advantage of them , while at the same time making sure that they understand you won't permit them to take undue advantage of you, hey, life is good, di ba?
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Malate prices doubled (or more) in 4 years
I've increasingly noticed that ever since the Mayor started the "Baywalk" project with all the nice street lights, the fountain at Remedios that replaced the Chingy-chingy and mal-life that used to hang out there, etc etc, the cost of just about everything in Malate has doubled. No more 30 peso 1-litre beer, and part-time pickup girls now ask P1000 or even P1000, wheras not too long ago they would have been happy with P500 and ecstatic with any tip over that. Too many rich tourists and all the eVat and rVAT stuff has made some adventures way expensive now. Even out in Cavite some bar girls are asking 1500! It's getting way out of hand; time to just give up on pay-for-play and stick to non-pickup girls, which I notice seem to be more and more interested in making the first move these days. Nice!
Then again, one family member just told me yesterday about a bar way out in the boonies where the GROs are happy with 200 or 300, no bar fine, but you'll have invested P1000 in girlie drinks a few nights in a row before you get that far, wiich means the bar owner makes a bundle and the girl gets next-to-nothing. So, yeah. Like I wrote above, let's just bypass all that.
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best time?
I am coming in next month and want to spend 2-3 days in Makati and 3-4 days in Malate/Manila and want thoughts on where to spend Monday to Wednesday which area and Thursday to Saturday which area would be best for mongering,etc. Thanks
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[QUOTE=Euaue]I am coming in next month and want to spend 2-3 days in Makati and 3-4 days in Malate/Manila and want thoughts on where to spend Monday to Wednesday which area and Thursday to Saturday which area would be best for mongering,etc. Thanks[/QUOTE]
Your time is limited. You didn't mention how much foreign currency you intend to blow away.
Given that, if I was you I'd get a decent room (lots of postings on that) around Malate, and make the circut (lots of postings on that) around Mabini and Del Plilar and Robinsons Mall and surrouding areas. Surely you'll find someone to keep you amused between the bars, the Mall, etc. You could do just that for 5 years and not be bored! Avoid street pimps (see postings). Note that Malate and Makati aren't all *that* far apart. I'd take use FX/Jeepnie/bus, but hey, you're a rich tourist so take a taxi - just make sure they put the meter on!
You can refer to all the Makati postings for such there; ditto for QC. If you're new and have 5 days,
don't consider the 'burbs unless you have a knowledgeable and trusted escort (which you probably don't have), and you only have 5 days, so restrict your territory, have fun, but remember to treat anyone decent you might meet with some respect, just as you might hope to get from them.
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la cafe
[QUOTE=Euaue]I am coming in next month and want to spend 2-3 days in Makati and 3-4 days in Malate/Manila and want thoughts on where to spend Monday to Wednesday which area and Thursday to Saturday which area would be best for mongering,etc. Thanks[/QUOTE]
to Euaue
The best day is friday and saturday at LA cafe and robinson mall when most of the girl is out of school in malate , Rest of the week you can go to makati
or angeles city or hit the casa and edsa at pasay city .
fast eddie 48
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[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]to Euaue
The best day is friday and saturday at LA cafe and robinson mall when most of the girl is out of school in malate , Rest of the week you can go to makati
or angeles city or hit the casa and edsa at pasay city .
fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]I've been to Robinson Mall.
But where is La Cafe from there?
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LA cafe
1429 M.H. del Pilar St....somewhere between Robinsons and Baywalk.
LA Cafe web site:
[url]http://www.ermita.com/LA%20cafe/[/url]
LA Cafe Map:
[url]http://www.**********.com/map_showing_la_cafe.html[/url]
No offense, but next time...do an Internet search for this kind of information.
X
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Cebu Local HELP!
Hi Cebu Local,
As far as hotels go I would prefer one in the Holiday Inn price range not to far from the action, if it is safe and clean that's good. I will only be staying in Manila long enough to make plans for Cebu.
Also in Cebu I need a hotel that will serve as my home base where I could leave my suit case as I go island hopping in the Visayas.
Cebu Local and guy's thanks for the help. my pm is not working I'll have to take care of that when I get back so please post.
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[QUOTE=Avioneto].. End up the evening at the LA cafe.The place was a zoo...[/QUOTE]
LOL!
Great report, very funny.. I agree. Perhaps they should rename the place. 'LA Zoo'
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[QUOTE=X Man]1429 M.H. del Pilar St....somewhere between Robinsons and Baywalk.
LA Cafe web site:
[url]http://www.ermita.com/LA%20cafe/[/url]
LA Cafe Map:
[url]http://www.**********.com/map_showing_la_cafe.html[/url]
No offense, but next time...do an Internet search for this kind of information.
X[/QUOTE]Thank Xman,
No offence, but none of the taxis whilst in the Philippines could find anything there.
They didn't know where FB harrison, Manila Casino, harrisons plaza etc.
Only place they knew was "The Heritage Hotel".
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Nirvana
I've been there a couple of times and went there tonight (Holy Thursday) because I couldn't find too many places that were open.
I got there a little after 8pm and there was a group of about 6 girls dancing on stage. After a few songs, another group of about 6 girls came on. The first group went to a few of the tables with guys to talk to them.
After the second group a band came on and the second group also went to some tables to talk to the guys.
All of the girls had numbers on them and I found that you could bring a girl to your table for 300 pesos/hour.
I also saw some VIP rooms in the back and a girl in an evening dress walking into the area.
Anyone know about this? The previous time I went was at about 2am and there was a bunch of people dancing and some girls on stage dancing their routines and only thought it was a dance club.
Prices aren't bad for a place to hang out. 150 entry for males, 100 for females which included one San Mig or ice-tea, beers are 89, pitcher of draft is 190 and a barrel is 550.
Some of the girls were decent looking and it adds a little in my opinion to see them dancing--not like in the KTVs, more like in a dance club.
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taxis
Earlier, someone reported:
***No offence, but none of the taxis whilst in the Philippines could find anything there.They didn't know where FB harrison, Manila Casino, harrisons plaza etc. Only place they knew was "The Heritage Hotel". ***
I can think of only three possible reasons for this.
1) You got a new taxi driver. Hmmmm, maybe not since you write "none of the taxis in the philippines". Maybe you meant to write Manila.
2) You looked like a newbie and they were testing you. If you couldn't give rough directions then they take the long way in order to earn more money. It still happens to me, but usually I like the different scenery so I don't complain unless time is an issue.
3) Your pronunciation or diction wasn't clear. It's always wise to speak slowly and clearly. English IS a second language for Filipinos.
Whenever a taxi driver makes me nervous I pull out my phone and start sending texts, or call someone. At the very least he'll think twice if he has some funny business in mind.
I find it generally is helpful to make a little small talk with the driver. Sometimes they are a great source of information. For example, you might ask how much he charges for a ride to AC. If he asks me if it is my first time, I would recommend you say "no" even if it is.
I also like to fk with them. For example, give a small / no tip, then say, "The tip would have been bigger but you gave me a headache by beeping your horn the entire trip." or "...but you didn't even slow down for that little old lady trying to cross the road."
Yes, I'm doing my part to make the streets of Manila quieter and safer. :-)
If I'm not mistaken there is a phone number somewhere on the outside of the taxis (in Manila). I believe it is the phone number for the taxi regulatory body ...and you can call it to make a complaint. Write that number down. If anyone is in Manila now, can you give us the number?
X
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Taxis
Another thing I do if I get nervous is pretend to call someone (or actually call someone) and give them the license plate of the taxi. It is written on the inside of both doors. If they were thinking of something, hopefully they'll wait for the next person.
My fake conversation is usually something like, "Yeah, I'm on my way now in a taxi. Taxi number? It's ABC-123. See you in a few minutes."
Also, I always sit in the back. Some people sit in the front and I have heard where the taxi stops, 2 people will jump in the back with knives and ask for your money. The taxi driver pretends he is being held up also but he is in on it too.
Lastly, it is a good idea to always lock the doors, ask the driver to turn on the meter and don't except and "plus" fares--meaning the driver wants +50 pesos on top of the meter. If he does this, tell him to pull over so you can get another taxi. He will either tell you to forget the "plus" fare or actually pull over.
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Did my rounds tonight (Saturday) but with a girl so my response might have been different than if I didn't have a girl with me.
Stopped at Peppermint on Mabini near the church. It's a Japanese KTV bar with about 25 girls. Some of them are pretty decent looking but it is a KTV bar so not much action to be had. Between the 2 of us we had 4 beers and bought 2 drinks for a friend of mine. Total damage was about 2000 plus 500 tip for my friend. I think there is a 150 cover charge, ladies drinks are 300 and 200 per hour. Beers are 75. The one thing they had was for 500 pesos, it will include your cover charge and all you can drink for 2 hours. This doesn't include ladies drinks.
After that I went to check out LA Cafe for the first time. Got there about 1am and it was packed. There were probably over 100 girls there but I walked around the place twice and didn't see anything I would have been interested in. I did see 2 or 3 that I considered cute but that was it. I did see the other side but did not go upstairs.
After I left LA Cafe I went over to Miss Universal. Got there at about 2:00am and it was pretty empty. According to Vangie, the mamasan I always deal with, it was packed at 11pm but most of the people had left already.
We sat at the table in the front-center of the stage and did not see anything exceptional. Saw a few decent ones but no stunners like I usually see at MU. But, because it was after 2am, the good ones were probably all already in the VIP rooms. We did have a great view for the solo shows but of the 3 we saw, 2 of them were a little heavier and 1 was ok.
3 beers and 2 cover charges and the total was 520. Beers are 100 each now and cover charge is now 110 each. Didn't ask the price of the ladies drinks.
It's 4:30am and the girl I'm with had a little too much beer and is passed out now. I may head over to PDP for their promo rate of 1200 to cap the evening/morning off...
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Ambssador Hotel Mabini?
Greetings
Has anyone stayed here or know what its like?
Cheers
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"On The Go" is Back
Please ignore the post below from Teed On. Once again this is "On The Go" showing his feminine side by creating yet again another handle. It's really comical as he never has gotten over the fact Jackson sent him to his own thread recently. It seems this banisment has made this clown even more sad than he was before. Under OTG, he confessed he is a convicted felon who cannot leave the U.S. as he is on the run for violating the terms of his parole. As a result, he has lots of time for this kind of stuff.
[blue]Hi Guinness,
Actually, the complete list of this idiots's aliases are:
Chivas 1
On The Go
Prov 01
Segundo
Teed On
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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new member
I'm new to this forum, but I read for 2months already and decided to be a member to help others find a quality girl here in the PL. Tru my experiecend in manila, I know a girl who works as a freelancer and take note she's a professional. We met at cafe havana in malate, indeed she didnt look like working as pro, she look decent. That's why I'm hesitate to approach her, she didnt smoke or even drink that's why. She look very nice. We seldom see each other now because of my work. But, still I kept her nos. Then, my second time in manila I went to known LA cafe, I was shock lots of freelancer are there. I meet a girl who look so young, but she's in the midst 20. I take her out of the cafe and go to my hotel, dude I pay only 2k for that whole night. I meet also her friends who stay at LA cafe as well, pay for cheaper price, but you cannt talk to them fluently because they don't speak english fluently. There sweet as I guarantee. I hope to see more girl in cheaper price.
If someone in this forum advice me where to go to find affordable one, please do let me know. I'm giving you also the mobile nos of my gfe, who work as part-time.
Thanks dude. Search for more girls out there.
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You Get What You Pay For
You could try negotiationg with Freelancers/streetwalkers, but could be a very dangerous proposition.
I suggest you improve your bargaining skills.
[QUOTE=Kuni Majendra]I'm new to this forum, but I read for 2months already and decided to be a member to help others find a quality girl here in the PL. Tru my experiecend in manila, I know a girl who works as a freelancer and take note she's a professional. We met at cafe havana in malate, indeed she didnt look like working as pro, she look decent. That's why I'm hesitate to approach her, she didnt smoke or even drink that's why. She look very nice. We seldom see each other now because of my work. But, still I kept her nos. Then, my second time in manila I went to known LA cafe, I was shock lots of freelancer are there. I meet a girl who look so young, but she's in the midst 20. I take her out of the cafe and go to my hotel, dude I pay only 2k for that whole night. I meet also her friends who stay at LA cafe as well, pay for cheaper price, but you cannt talk to them fluently because they don't speak english fluently. There sweet as I guarantee. I hope to see more girl in cheaper price.
If someone in this forum advice me where to go to find affordable one, please do let me know. I'm giving you also the mobile nos of my gfe, who work as part-time.
Thanks dude. Search for more girls out there.[/QUOTE]
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[blue]Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson[/blue]
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[QUOTE=Billpsu]You could try negotiationg with Freelancers/streetwalkers, but could be a very dangerous proposition.
I suggest you improve your bargaining skills.[/QUOTE]Thank you dude,
I know in some certain point that its very dangerous, but all the girls ive been bfore are all professional in different category. Most of the pro here in manila are hard to find (student, professional, bank worker), but i know already some of them. I want to explore here in manila and makati, maybe asking for those who are very familiar where to find nice and average or above average girls who work as a pro?
Its much appreciated if someone gave me the place where can i find them.
Thank you!
KM
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streetwalkers
[QUOTE=Kuni Majendra]I'm new to this forum, but I read for 2months already and decided to be a member to help others find a quality girl here in the PL. Tru my experiecend in manila, I know a girl who works as a freelancer and take note she's a professional. We met at cafe havana in malate, indeed she didnt look like working as pro, she look decent. That's why I'm hesitate to approach her, she didnt smoke or even drink that's why. She look very nice. We seldom see each other now because of my work. But, still I kept her nos. Then, my second time in manila I went to known LA cafe, I was shock lots of freelancer are there. I meet a girl who look so young, but she's in the midst 20. I take her out of the cafe and go to my hotel, dude I pay only 2k for that whole night. I meet also her friends who stay at LA cafe as well, pay for cheaper price, but you cannt talk to them fluently because they don't speak english fluently. There sweet as I guarantee. I hope to see more girl in cheaper price.
If someone in this forum advice me where to go to find affordable one, please do let me know. I'm giving you also the mobile nos of my gfe, who work as part-time.
Thanks dude. Search for more girls out there.[/QUOTE]You can find streetwalkers operating on Mabini, not too far from LA Cafe. Prices can be as low as 1500 LT. 10 -12 pm will be a good time to check it out.
BTW, you'll find that most girls that walk the street also visit LA Cafe.
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Manila Report
Spent a couple of nights in town this week. First night I got out of a business meeting pretty late so I just pulled something out of Greenbelt near the Cafe Havana. Back at the hotel, she gave me a line of bullshit about not being on the game and only offered a massage and BBBJ. She refused to take off all her clothes and I started to worry that she might be a lady boy in disguise even though she did not have any of the telltale features. BTW, I did not see any obvious lady boys in Greenbelt like there have been in the past. Made her show me her pussy anyway just to be sure. Reasonably good BBBJCIM followed by a half ass massage. Gave her 1,000 and she bitched for more. Showed her the door.
Second night, after an early drink with Cebu Local, I hit the LA Cafe. Just stood in the center of the bar downstairs and watched the parade. This place is a must see for all new mongers in Manila. Finally, I made my choice and off we went. In contrast with the previous night, this was total GFE. I won't bore you with all the details but after 4 pops in 8 hours I sent her off and could not move until 1:00PM the next afternoon. Worth every penny of the 2k + 100 taxi fare.
I was flying out stand-by so I had some extra waiting time. At the advise of Cebu Local, I checked out Air Force One. Air Force One is actually the KTV. The sauna/*****house is called Flight 168 or something. I am not sure if the details have been posted previously, but I will post for reference.
Economy Class: 1,200 + 1,200 before 7:00pm, 1,500 + 1500 after for 1 hour, 15 minutes in standard room.
Business Class: Better quality talent, 2k + 2k in a better room; 2.5 + 2.5 after 7:00pm: 1 1/2 hours.
First Class: Biz class girls in a VIP room (jacuzzi, double steam room, etc.) for 2 hours. 2,600 + 2,600; 3,300 + 3, 300 after 7:00PM.
Unfortunately, my time was limited and after 4 pops the night before, I decided to pass this time, but, IMHO is worth a visit in future. Excellent option for those in transit for domestic flights.
OAH
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Good way to kill time
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Spent a couple of nights in town this week. First night I got out of a business meeting pretty late so I just pulled something out of Greenbelt near the Cafe Havana. Back at the hotel, she gave me a line of bullshit about not being on the game and only offered a massage and BBBJ. She refused to take off all her clothes and I started to worry that she might be a lady boy in disguise even though she did not have any of the telltale features. BTW, I did not see any obvious lady boys in Greenbelt like there have been in the past. Made her show me her pussy anyway just to be sure. Reasonably good BBBJCIM followed by a half ass massage. Gave her 1,000 and she bitched for more. Showed her the door.
Second night, after an early drink with Cebu Local, I hit the LA Cafe. Just stood in the center of the bar downstairs and watched the parade. This place is a must see for all new mongers in Manila. Finally, I made my choice and off we went. In contrast with the previous night, this was total GFE. I won't bore you with all the details but after 4 pops in 8 hours I sent her off and could not move until 1:00PM the next afternoon. Worth every penny of the 2k + 100 taxi fare.
I was flying out stand-by so I had some extra waiting time. At the advise of Cebu Local, I checked out Air Force One. Air Force One is actually the KTV. The sauna/*****house is called Flight 168 or something. I am not sure if the details have been posted previously, but I will post for reference.
Economy Class: 1,200 + 1,200 before 7:00pm, 1,500 + 1500 after for 1 hour, 15 minutes in standard room.
Business Class: Better quality talent, 2k + 2k in a better room; 2.5 + 2.5 after 7:00pm: 1 1/2 hours.
First Class: Biz class girls in a VIP room (jacuzzi, double steam room, etc.) for 2 hours. 2,600 + 2,600; 3,300 + 3, 300 after 7:00PM.
Unfortunately, my time was limited and after 4 pops the night before, I decided to pass this time, but, IMHO is worth a visit in future. Excellent option for those in transit for domestic flights.
OAH[/QUOTE]
Glad to hear you had a great time,See you in GZ Cheers.Note Air Force 1 is located a 5 minute drive away from the International Airport and Highly reccomended for those wanting to kill a few hours in Transit between Domestic and International Flights.
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Pimps at Harrison Plaza
Hi Friends:
During my recent visit in Manila I was approached several times by a number of pimps at Harrison Plaza. Never ever accept such kind of "help"! If these guys provide you with a girl prices can go up by 50%. There is simply no need for such kind of assistance as you can easily contact the girls yourself!
Hesekiels
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the Manila Hotel - girlfriendly?
Does anybody know the "Manila Hotel", are they girlfriendly?
I like to spend one or two day's there cause i like the ambiance :)
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Manila Hotel
[QUOTE=zladdi]Does anybody know the "Manila Hotel", are they girlfriendly?
I like to spend one or two day's there cause i like the ambiance :)[/QUOTE]Of course it is girlfriendly! I was there several times and never had any problems with my visitors!
Enjoy your stay!
Hesekiels
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Going to the Philippines
I will be going to the Philippines end of May to conduct some training for my company again. I didn't get the chance to go around last time because of my hectic schedule, however, I have extended my stay there to enjoy the. Hmm. The areas. Anyone in the Philippines end of May till Mid June. Let me know.
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Fresh Meat
So as usual (at least when the coast is clear for some bar hopping) I start the night off with a trip to EDSA. I usually like to get there about 8:00 and do the rounds of the bars and be out of there by about 10:00 if I don't find anything. In all my trips there, I am stiil trying to figure out the best time to go. I find that by about 8:30 the place has been picked through by the Japs and Koreans, although many girls don't start till about 9:00. There are also some girls who don't get to work until after 10:00, particularly in the Firehouse. Get there too early, and the quantity of girls is low, and get there too late, and the really cute ones are all gone. What is a *****monger to do!
Anyway, Cotton club, Firehouse, Space Girls, Casino, Bullets...Nada. Pitstop is off limits for me (long story) and VIP usually sucks big time, so that left only Samba. I had a girl from Samba last week, and considering that was only I think the third girl I have ever had from that bar, it seemed a long shot that I'd find another so soon, but it is always worth a try.
So one of the mamas came up to me and pointed out a new girl. She was 18 and it was her first day on the job. Now, as any connoisseur of bar girls can tell you, first day girls are the best. Like Opus One is to a wine connoisseur, and pineapple weed is to a stoner, first day girls are what mongers search for. Of course, many would disagree about their favorite type of bar girl, but at least among the expat mongers I hang with, we all search for the fresh meet.
So I call her over. She is really 21 and it is her second night on the job, but she wasn't barfined yesterday, so she hasn't yet had her first customer. She is cute, but not especially so, but is very sweet and I decide that I would like to break her in.
So we drive across the street to Victoria court, and then she exclaims "oh my god, you're a veteran". Now a veteran is term used to describe someone who barfines girls on a regular basis. So veteran is certainly the right term for me. I guess she heard some bad things about "veterans" so she said she was scared and I sensed she wanted to back out. I then told her we would go to a restaurant and get something to eat so she could get to know me better. We go to Kenny Rogers at the end of the street. By this time, I noticed a lot mumbling and hand waving and I figured out that she was doing the cross on her chest and saying "oh lord, protect me". She did this every couple of minutes. Remembering a first timer that I spent a couple of hours with who I unintentionally talked out of entering the profession, I decided that this was not going to happen again. She softly asks what I expect. I ask her what she thinks, and her eyes get big and whispers "sex?" I felt like saying "what, are you a moron, obviously" But of course, I gave the correct response, of "if you are comfortable with it". The saint in me wants to talk them out of it, but the devil in me wants to fuck their brains out. The longer I do this, the stronger the devil gets, and I've been doing this for a while.
So by the end of dinner, she determines that I am a nice guy (or at least safe), so we proceed to Victoria Court. At this point, I decide it best not to waive my VC discount card (kind of like a frequent fucker card) to the attendant.
Before she takes of her clothes, she asks me if I am going to pay her because she is only doing this because her rent is due and she has no money. I tell her of course. I kind of feel sorry for her, but as usual, the size of my dick is bigger then my heart so I am actually quite thankful that she has these problems. Without Filipina girls and their financial issues, we wouldn’t have any bargirls.
She continues with the “oh lord protect me” routine right up until she gets into bed. At that point, I tell her “the lord has protected you, he sent you me”. As any naïve religious bargirl would, she believed that silly line and for the first time since leaving the bar she finally relaxed and smiled (of course, if the lord was really protecting her, he would have sent her the P2,000 by Angel Express, instead of some guy twice her age to bang her).
So, I helped a sweet young girl down the road to becoming a worn our ho. Am I proud of myself? Certainly not. Would I do it again?
Hell yeah!
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Fresh meat
[QUOTE=LoveAsian*****s]So as usual (at least when the coast is clear for some bar hopping) I start the night off with a trip to EDSA. I usually like to get there about 8:00 and do the rounds of the bars and be out of there by about 10:00 if I don't find anything. In all my trips there, I am stiil trying to figure out the best time to go. I find that by about 8:30 the place has been picked through by the Japs and Koreans, although many girls don't start till about 9:00. There are also some girls who don't get to work until after 10:00, particularly in the Firehouse. Get there too early, and the quantity of girls is low, and get there too late, and the really cute ones are all gone. What is a *****monger to do!
Anyway, Cotton club, Firehouse, Space Girls, Casino, Bullets...Nada. Pitstop is off limits for me (long story) and VIP usually sucks big time, so that left only Samba. I had a girl from Samba last week, and considering that was only I think the third girl I have ever had from that bar, it seemed a long shot that I'd find another so soon, but it is always worth a try.
So one of the mamas came up to me and pointed out a new girl. She was 18 and it was her first day on the job. Now, as any connoisseur of bar girls can tell you, first day girls are the best. Like Opus One is to a wine connoisseur, and pineapple weed is to a stoner, first day girls are what mongers search for. Of course, many would disagree about their favorite type of bar girl, but at least among the expat mongers I hang with, we all search for the fresh meet.
So I call her over. She is really 21 and it is her second night on the job, but she wasn't barfined yesterday, so she hasn't yet had her first customer. She is cute, but not especially so, but is very sweet and I decide that I would like to break her in.
So we drive across the street to Victoria court, and then she exclaims "oh my god, you're a veteran". Now a veteran is term used to describe someone who barfines girls on a regular basis. So veteran is certainly the right term for me. I guess she heard some bad things about "veterans" so she said she was scared and I sensed she wanted to back out. I then told her we would go to a restaurant and get something to eat so she could get to know me better. We go to Kenny Rogers at the end of the street. By this time, I noticed a lot mumbling and hand waving and I figured out that she was doing the cross on her chest and saying "oh lord, protect me". She did this every couple of minutes. Remembering a first timer that I spent a couple of hours with who I unintentionally talked out of entering the profession, I decided that this was not going to happen again. She softly asks what I expect. I ask her what she thinks, and her eyes get big and whispers "sex?" I felt like saying "what, are you a moron, obviously" But of course, I gave the correct response, of "if you are comfortable with it". The saint in me wants to talk them out of it, but the devil in me wants to fuck their brains out. The longer I do this, the stronger the devil gets, and I've been doing this for a while.
So by the end of dinner, she determines that I am a nice guy (or at least safe), so we proceed to Victoria Court. At this point, I decide it best not to waive my VC discount card (kind of like a frequent fucker card) to the attendant.
Before she takes of her clothes, she asks me if I am going to pay her because she is only doing this because her rent is due and she has no money. I tell her of course. I kind of feel sorry for her, but as usual, the size of my dick is bigger then my heart so I am actually quite thankful that she has these problems. Without Filipina girls and their financial issues, we wouldn’t have any bargirls.
She continues with the “oh lord protect me” routine right up until she gets into bed. At that point, I tell her “the lord has protected you, he sent you me”. As any naïve religious bargirl would, she believed that silly line and for the first time since leaving the bar she finally relaxed and smiled (of course, if the lord was really protecting her, he would have sent her the P2,000 by Angel Express, instead of some guy twice her age to bang her).
So, I helped a sweet young girl down the road to becoming a worn our ho. Am I proud of myself? Certainly not. Would I do it again?
Hell yeah![/QUOTE]Want to send her to another"nice Guy"????If you have her numbers,I can "help"her earn some more rent money ...........Cheers
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To date girls in Manila, interesting or not?
Hello guys,
Just as information, would it be interesting in going to Manila and to date girls to have sex with them?
Would it be easy to have sex with them after 2-3 meetings? Or are girls in Manila very conservative and would like to wait till the marriage?
I am less than 40 years old, white, and I will stay there about 1-3 months....
Don't hesitate to give me your point of vue. I will read it with pleasure.
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To rent a one-room furnished apartment in Manila
What should I expect to rent a furnished one-room apartment in Manila for 1 month?
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Why don't you do a survey through Filipina Hearts or Filipina Freind Finder.
I will be going in a few months and, through Filipina Hearst, have gotten commitments from girls who say they will stay overnight with me.
Granted, I went though quite a few before some agreed, however, it is good time management if you can get an indication of how far they are willing to go before you arrive.
I found the best hunting ground for this type of set up to be Davao. Although I have arranged for "overnighters" in Manila and Cebu.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=Volpone]Hello guys,
Just as information, would it be interesting in going to Manila and to date girls to have sex with them?
Would it be easy to have sex with them after 2-3 meetings? Or are girls in Manila very conservative and would like to wait till the marriage?
I am less than 40 years old, white, and I will stay there about 1-3 months....
Don't hesitate to give me your point of vue. I will read it with pleasure.[/QUOTE]
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Rent
[QUOTE=Volpone]What should I expect to rent a furnished one-room apartment in Manila for 1 month?[/QUOTE]You can get a lot of good choices for 200-300$
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Dating and Dating Sites
Hi Volpone.
You would be surprised just how many women on FH and TLL are, if not full time P4P, atleast part-timers. AdultFF even more so!
I have met around 40 or so from FH and TLL and only one did not put out on the first night, she was rather cunning and every conversation was steered to her financial situation!
A word of warning however. The non-professionals can be damn hard to get rid of and performance varies greatly.
It can become a nuisance juggling dates etc.
My advice is to stick to the usual sources and pay the going rates, it is small change after all, why create problems?
Cheers
Tuck
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try this link if its allowed. sorry mod if links arent allowed.
[url]http://www.adpost.com/ph/house_rental_search/[/url]
[url]http://www.islandsproperties.com/[/url]
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Thanks a lot guys for your informations. I really enjoy to read them.
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Hey guys I heard Art Bell from coast2coast is now living in the fils! He is going to do his radio program from out there!
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Why we pay
[QUOTE=Friar Tuck]Hi Volpone.
---snip----
A word of warning however. The non-professionals can be damn hard to get rid of and performance varies greatly.
It can become a nuisance juggling dates etc.
My advice is to stick to the usual sources and pay the going rates, it is small change after all, why create problems?
Cheers
Tuck[/QUOTE]I am not sure the source of this quote. I've heard it's Frank Sinatra, but anyway it goes like this: You don't pay hookers to have sex with you. You pay them to leave afterwards.
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Retired!?
[QUOTE=Three I]Hey guys I heard Art Bell from coast2coast is now living in the fils! He is going to do his radio program from out there![/QUOTE]
So he is leaving the land of Nye for the Phil? I thought we was retired? I suppose it is a good place to retire. It will be interesting to hear what his take is on the P.I.
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I dont live in the US of A so who is Art Bell?
Was in Cebu once and Kasey Kasem was dj'ing in a disco.
[QUOTE=Three I]Hey guys I heard Art Bell from coast2coast is now living in the fils! He is going to do his radio program from out there![/QUOTE]
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Why we pay
[QUOTE=Number Six]I am not sure the source of this quote. I've heard it's Frank Sinatra, but anyway it goes like this: You don't pay hookers to have sex with you. You pay them to leave afterwards.[/QUOTE]I think those are words from monger hall of famer Charlie Sheen. What a lucky bastard.
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First sex in Manila
Long time monger but first timer in Manila. Arrived early this morning and left luggage at Garden City Hotel before walking out to Burgos St. Location of hotel is great with easy and close access to nearby bars. Hit Flamingos, the Bronx, Wild Wild West, and others that I forget but easily Flamingos had the best quality. Was walking between bars when I spotted this hottie coming out of cab to head over to one of the bars. To make story short she went back with me to hotel for about 2 hours( I needed rest after 20 hour trip from NYC)for 1500 pesos during which time I fucked her twice including travel to the Greek Isles( one of my favorite). She was a good sport and even asked at the end if I was happy. She was pretty,spinner;4'-10", 90 lbs. and looked very young(16-17) but was actually 22(showed me her ID). I will post her pics when I head back home. On the streets, hawkers were everywhere offering merchandise,girls and Viagra. I think I really gonna love this trip.
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Any mongers here are welcome to PM me and we could meet for drinks or to exchange info.
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Makati
Spent 4 days in the Makati area. Went to several clubs on Burgos; Jolly's which has a handful of reasonably attractive girls dancing in clothes. Was told the bar fine was 3000 Pesos, and the "tip" was $100. Rather steep I thought. The dance show was impressive with a well choreographed, "professional" dance routine. I tried to buy one of the dancers, but was told they are only dancers and don't go home. Must be true, since if one of the girls was absent, the dance routine would be screwed up.
Los Bandidos had a few attractive girls. By far the best club was Flamingo's, which is consistent with what other mongers have posted in previous messages. Many attractive girls, and the ugly ones are even cute. Bar fine 1900 P, and 2000-3000 P for long time, depending on the girl.
Stayed at a 5 star hotel (business trip, I wasn't paying), and they had no problem allowing my guests. So figure all hotels must be GF friendly.
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LA Cafe
Finally visited this well discussed pick up bar and I was very surprised at the high quality and youth of these girls. By 1am, place was jumping with anywhere from 150-250 girls most of whom rated 6 or better. I easily spotted 3 10's but they quickly were seated with the Koreans who dominate the second floor. They all are in a festive mood with some being quite aggresive. I stayed away from them and took mychances with a 6-1/2 spinner. She was 22 and had a curvy body with c cups. We talked a bit( I was in pain as I had a bit of laryngitis and could not play the game well). But she understood and readily accepted to go back to my hotel without any price spoken. She was a bit shy at first as she only would do everything covered( I know I am spoiled from all the bbbj's that I had in my life). She did warm up later for second round and stayed night till next day( damm, she caused me to delay my AC trip) and even went sightseeing with me. She did mentione that she needed a new blouse and at the end gave her 1500 plus fed her and gave her small gifts(like T-backs and chocolate) She greatly thanked me and even wanted me to take her to AC. But that would have been a big NO-NO.
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LA cafe
Pinga obviously enjoyed himself...but may have a few facts mixed up. This happens after late night drinking and early morning sexercise...
I've never seen the 2nd floor dominated by "Koreans" or any other Asians. This is where the band plays and there is a cover charge of 100 pesos. It is the back room that tends to be Japanese/ Korean dominated. That never stopped me from going back there though.
As for quality, it varies just like it does in the bars. Any kind of review you read is probably irrelevant. Just go see for yourself. Once I found LACafe full of sweet stuff in the late afternoon and full of battle-hardened single mothers in the evening. Friday night I pulled a real sweet thing ...pictures coming soon.
**side note: EDSA Entertainment Complex is increasingly East Asian. Although I don't like to over generalize, I've heard over and over from the girls themselves that "it's smaller". In one case girl A said "smaller" and then girl B added, "and quicker". I suspect more lucrative as well, but I try to avoid money talk with my "girlfriends".
X
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[QUOTE=Jelly37]Spent 4 days in the Makati area. Went to several clubs on Burgos; Jolly's which has a handful of reasonably attractive girls dancing in clothes. Was told the bar fine was 3000 Pesos, and the "tip" was $100. Rather steep I thought. The dance show was impressive with a well choreographed, "professional" dance routine. I tried to buy one of the dancers, but was told they are only dancers and don't go home. Must be true, since if one of the girls was absent, the dance routine would be screwed up.
Los Bandidos had a few attractive girls. By far the best club was Flamingo's, which is consistent with what other mongers have posted in previous messages. Many attractive girls, and the ugly ones are even cute. Bar fine 1900 P, and 2000-3000 P for long time, depending on the girl.
Stayed at a 5 star hotel (business trip, I wasn't paying), and they had no problem allowing my guests. So figure all hotels must be GF friendly.[/QUOTE]I think by "Jolly's" you mean Joules. Yes it is true that there are many beautiful girls at that club and from my experiences there, I reckon the best way to proceed is to try and get the girl's cell phone no. and try to contact her tbe next day for a private "consultation"!
BTW a $100 tip is far too much. If can cut out the bar fine, 2,000 pesos for a 2-3 hr. session is plenty for a P. Burgos gal and if go the LA Cafe you might be able to bargain her down to even a 1000 p.
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Domestic airport bars
Hi.. I used to live in Makati and regualrly return. These days Im a regualr on the KL boards but still keep some angels in Makati. Im still well known in P Burgos thankfully.. its amazing how these girls remember who you are and last time you were in their bar and what sex act you did together.
Was there for a few days and was a regular at Sogo in Pasay. ( Note..why do they always tell me whatever time of day it is that all rooms are full and only VIP available.. could it be they are more expensive.. hahah)..
Anyways had 4 visits there in 4 days and all was good.
Only dissapoinbtment was that the bars next to domestic airport have all been closed. They were great, I know they werent as lively as Burgos but they were really good fun especially when you were only customer in there all night.
Anyways tried the Utopia health club.. was their first customer as 12 noon as I was on way to NAIA. P1500 and gal gets naked in shower with you and stays naked. Not the cleanest place in town but its convenient if you need a pre airport bonk.
Love Makati but for obvious reasons asawa ko ( wife ) doesnt let me get there too often on my own. CAnt think why...
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First Time In Manila
My first, but hopefully not my last post! Spent 10 great days in Manila in January over the New Year period and must admit it was everything that I expected! I'm Aussie, divorced and 54, and just went to meet as many nice young Filipinas as possible. Without a doubt, LA Cafe is the place to go when you don't want the hassle of mamasans, pimps etc. But before you go there, I would suggest trying your luck at Glorietta - the office workers looking for a little bonus money and a mutually pleasant time together are there as long as you are patient and take your time.
I didn't have much luck at Robinsons or Harrisons malls and the ladyboys are really hard to pick!! Watch out!! So if I didn't meet anyone at Glorietta, I would head back to the LA Cafe and take my time there, talking, drinking, playing pool until I had decided on the girl I liked most. Every night was different, but I was happy with the selection and the atmosphere is great.
Overall the shopping is good and cheap and the people are unbelievably friendly. I stayed at the Hyatt Casino in Ermita and can heartily recommend it!
Have stayed in touch with several of the girls I met via email since then and on average paid about 2000 pesos for an all nighter. Always used a condom though it was rarely requested!
I am looking forward to going back again at the end of the year for what will probably be a yearly pilgrimage!!
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p/u manila
I was in Manila after a hard night of hammering on some business partners and did not want to ride to Subic alone. So I went out early on P.Burgos st, and sat a matrix and found a great looking 20yr old walking around shopping with the sidewalk venders.She was being hastled by 2 black guys from Cali, U.S.A. The gal wanted to talk to me and so she sat with me and told the 2 guys that I was the BF she was waiting on.
They soon left and when I started talking to her and said I was going back to Subic she said she would go with me if I wanted.I said ok, and off we went and she stayed with me 3 days before I sent her back to makati.
If you treat the girls with respect they will stay with you forever and the way to get respect is to give it in return. I will not say all the gals are good gals they all know every scamm in the book but just be nice and kind, That costs nothing and you can have a great time wherever you go in the PI.
Too many guys treat these gals like dogs and think they can treat them like dirt and the answer to that is IT DON'T WORK LIKE THAT !! They are not like gals in the U.S. that do tricks for there next drug fix. Most of the gals do what they do to feed themselves and there families.They are nice people and all my frends say watch out for the philippinos they will scamm you. The real truth is most of the foreigners are the ones SCAMMING the people there. They even try to get the ones from there own country. Be careful !! Never trust anyone and never lend money or tell anyone about money you have eather in the bank, or on your person.
Youn can have a great time here and no problems, if you stay sober long enough to think with the big head first. Like the people in this country say, "ALL THE FOREIGNERS LEAVE THERE BRAINS AT THE AIRPORT"
Play safe, BC.
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]
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[QUOTE=X Man]Pinga obviously enjoyed himself...but may have a few facts mixed up. This happens after late night drinking and early morning sexercise...
I've never seen the 2nd floor dominated by "Koreans" or any other Asians. This is where the band plays and there is a cover charge of 100 pesos. It is the back room that tends to be Japanese/ Korean dominated. That never stopped me from going back there though.
As for quality, it varies just like it does in the bars. Any kind of review you read is probably irrelevant. Just go see for yourself. Once I found LACafe full of sweet stuff in the late afternoon and full of battle-hardened single mothers in the evening. Friday night I pulled a real sweet thing ...pictures coming soon.
**side note: EDSA Entertainment Complex is increasingly East Asian. Although I don't like to over generalize, I've heard over and over from the girls themselves that "it's smaller". In one case girl A said "smaller" and then girl B added, "and quicker". I suspect more lucrative as well, but I try to avoid money talk with my "girlfriends".
X[/QUOTE] Oops. Yes ,you are right I should have said that the back room sitting area was dominated by Koreans. I guess I just lucked out cause the night that I was there the majority of the girls were young and cute. If you say you were there on friday night then that was the same night that I was there. Sorry, I could not say hello but I must have definitely seen you.
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May/June Philippines
Anyone going to be in the Philippines May and June?
I will be there.
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money changer ripoff
I should have posted this right away so the word gets out, but been terribly busy since I got back to reality.
There is a money changer on Mabini that is cheating customers and I caught the *****.
Usually, they'll count the money out and lay it in front of you. You pick up the money and count it and then go on your way. Never had problems until last week.
First, she said if I changed more money, she would give me a better rate. OK. Then she counted out ten 500 notes for 5000 pesos and set it in a pile and told me to count it. Then she had her hands on the pile I had already counted. She counted out another pile and had me count it. Again, she put her hands on the pile, which naturally set of warning signals for me.
At the end she picks up the whole pile and hands it to me all the while talking and telling me to come back again. When I grabbed the pile I squeezed it tightly and sure enough, I felt a very slight tug as she pulled away her hand. I was looking at her hand the whole time and didn't see anything. I think she had folded a few of the bills inside the pile and pulled them out as she pulled her hand away. The folded bill(s) would have been on her half, not my half, which is why the tug was barely noticeable.
I said, "Let's count again..." She immediatetly took the money out of my hands and took it down to her side of the counter out of my eye sight. She brought the money back up, counted it out in one pile, and handed it over. It was the correct amount. I said, "Don't you ever do that to me again you *****.". She kept silent.
I took a photo of the place and will give the name a bit later, but I don't have access to my camera at the moment. I'll send that along soon.
Be careful gentlemen.
****** = female dog
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Money changers
[QUOTE=X Man]I should have posted this right away so the word gets out, but been terribly busy since I got back to reality.
There is a money changer on Mabini that is cheating customers and I caught the *****.
Usually, they'll count the money out and lay it in front of you. You pick up the money and count it and then go on your way. Never had problems until last week.
First, she said if I changed more money, she would give me a better rate. OK. Then she counted out ten 500 notes for 5000 pesos and set it in a pile and told me to count it. Then she had her hands on the pile I had already counted. She counted out another pile and had me count it. Again, she put her hands on the pile, which naturally set of warning signals for me.
At the end she picks up the whole pile and hands it to me all the while talking and telling me to come back again. When I grabbed the pile I squeezed it tightly and sure enough, I felt a very slight tug as she pulled away her hand. I was looking at her hand the whole time and didn't see anything. I think she had folded a few of the bills inside the pile and pulled them out as she pulled her hand away. The folded bill(s) would have been on her half, not my half, which is why the tug was barely noticeable.
I said, "Let's count again..." She immediatetly took the money out of my hands and took it down to her side of the counter out of my eye sight. She brought the money back up, counted it out in one pile, and handed it over. It was the correct amount. I said, "Don't you ever do that to me again you *****.". She kept silent.
I took a photo of the place and will give the name a bit later, but I don't have access to my camera at the moment. I'll send that along soon.
Be careful gentlemen.
****** = female dog
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That's really interesting news and I highly appreciate this post! I had, however, never encountered such kind of a problem (knock on wood!)! What I would like to know is, was it an 'authorized money changer' who tried to rip you off, or somebody from the street?
Cheers
Hesekiels
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This Scam is Common
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]That's really interesting news and I highly appreciate this post! I had, however, never encountered such kind of a problem (knock on wood!)! What I would like to know is, was it an 'authorized money changer' who tried to rip you off, or somebody from the street?
Cheers
Hesekiels[/QUOTE]Sad to say,Even among authorized money changers,This scam is quite common.Recently the Central Bank closed down 20 of these for precisely doing this scam
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Change agents
This is one of the reasons that I always advise people not to bring much cash and to rely on ATM cards, which are reasonably foolproof. Also, the exchange rate is invariably better.
CL: DS will be in town tomorrow. When are you coming?
:D
GE
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Best Money Changer in the PI
scrupuoulsly honest operation run by Chinese who have been doing it since my first visit (1994). It is in the small alley just NORTH of the Malate Pension (on same side of street-WEST). 1 block North of Remedios Cicle in Malate. Hours can be irregular as they take breaks. You push the button and they buzz you past 2 security gates as you walk up the stairs to the counters. Best rates in town, big bills, you get a per strip from adding machine showing payout. Never a single piso short.
Change with the criminals on Mabini Street and you get what you deserve. Nowadays, I use my ATM too but the rate these people give is better than ATM rate (and no fees!). Great bulgogi at the Korean Palace restaurant on Remedios Circle too so I used to go change money at lunchtime.
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Malls
I always change my money at malls and have found very competitive rates. I don't go to the ones with the digital boards--the ones where they are written on a white board. I have exchanged at Robinson's Galleria, Green Hills, Glorietta, and Greenbelt1 that I can recall. I once exchanged at a SM but they have a long line, need ID and the rates are usually a little lower than at the malls.
I've heard so many stories about the small places that it's worth it to me to go to reputable places in malls where you know you won't get ripped off. I am sure that Robinson's in Ermita has one also.
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I opened a bank account with BPI and progressivly transfer between trips. Keep a check on account with internet access.
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Dating ordinary girls
[QUOTE=Volpone]Hello guys,
Just as information, would it be interesting in going to Manila and to date girls to have sex with them?
Would it be easy to have sex with them after 2-3 meetings? Or are girls in Manila very conservative and would like to wait till the marriage?
I am less than 40 years old, white, and I will stay there about 1-3 months....[/QUOTE]
So you're younger than most of us! Not that most girls care all that much, other than generally they like someone "mature" vrs some kid. At 40 you should have them falling all over you.
I presume you're asking about dating ordinary girls, not bar girls. Good choice if you have the time to court them, they do require a modicum of effort and investment. If you can talk to them before you meet them and already have an established rapport by the time you're close enough to touch, then chances are good for you that touching will be what you're doing when you meet. Depending on the girl, you might be "touching" all night and for as long as you let her be in love with you - because if you pick a nice girl that's *exactly* what will happen - she will fall in love with you. With that of course go all the trappings, so expect to be taking the "family" to dinner, helping her with the rent, buying new glasses for Papang, etc.
Depending on her current financial situation and needs, she will at some point be asking you to help her with some of those needs. For example, one (ordinary girl) friend recently asked me if I could help her get her tooth fixed (she showed me and it really did need fixing). Actually she was going to have it pulled and I said nononono you will get it fixed. I asked how much she needed and she guessed 300 (pesos), which I know is too low, so I gave her 1000. In this case, that was our 3rd date. We did make love the first two dates too, which wasn't surprising since she got my cell# from a mutual friend and it was she who asked me for that first date.
If she's not in your bed (or you in hers) by the third date then you got really unluky picking the wrong girl. Though most ordinary girls are conservative (Phils is ostensibly a conservative country) girls especially between 18 and 40 are just dying to fall in love with a foreigner (who can support them and their extended family). Don't be surprised if by the 3rd date she brings along her kids to meet you and enjoy the Jollibee blowup you're going to treat them to.
Nuff said, by the time you get to that point you'll be well on your way to figuring out the rest.
Enjoy!
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Philippines banking
[QUOTE=Asiafloyd]I opened a bank account with BPI and progressivly transfer between trips. Keep a check on account with internet access.[/QUOTE]
Yes, in my experience, BPI is an excellent choice for a foreigner. They will want you to produce your "ACR" (Alien Certificate of Registration), but if you have the right account manager you can open an account with just your passport and a second piece of picture ID. Other banks are stricter.
There will be a required minimum deposit to open the account, and if you keep over that minimum then there are *no* services charges!!!! (Unlike North America where they service-charge you to death). The only thing you wind up paying for is your checkbook, which last time I think was about 115 pesos or somesuch. The minimum opening amount requirement can be as low as 500 pesos now, and that includes your ATM card. However, unlike NorthAmerican banks, don't ever expect to be in and out of there in 5 minutes. I prefer to send my wife or an employee to make local deposits, since I have on many occasions stood in line for over an hour to make a simple deposit.
Mondays, Fridays, and the day after a holiday are bad days to attend at the bank.
I've done several wire-transfers from my foreign accounts to my BPI account, and the exchange rate is very reasonable (better than a lot of others), and they've been ultra-reliable. They also have a US$ account if you prefer that to a Peso account.
Their web site is slow, but functional and handy, especially if you want to pay PLDT or Meralco or reload your cellfone in the middle of Sunday night.
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re: Dating ordinary girls
[QUOTE=CanContrib]if you pick a nice girl that's *exactly* what will happen - she will fall in love with you.[/QUOTE]
You mentioned you're planning on visiting Phils for 1 to 3 months. Okay! Nice plan.
I neglected to mention but should, that if you pick a girl really worth having (or permit one to chose you as more often happens), there's a significant danger that as she falls in love with you, you might fall in love with her. Five years ago I never expected to have a Pinay wife and live in the Philippines for the rest of my life!
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Can Contrib Makes Some Great Points
One key is that he married a pinay and lived in the PI with her. He did not make the common, and serious, mistake of bringing one to the US. I was not so smart.
Youu see lawyers in the PI make 1% of what we make in the US-the ONLY reason I am still living in the GWL (Great Wasteland)). So I did not really having the option of moving there to be with her. 5 years later, she is living in the house and I paid a divorce lawyer $25,000 to get rid of her. Filipinas become Americanized at an alarming rate. For every success story of a couple living happily in the US for decades, there are dozens of bitter divorces where the yankee got cleaned. While my evidence is anecdotal, it is irrefutable. You've been warned.
BPI is great for sending piso to your honeyko in the PI. $7 per remittance, unless it went up again (been a few years).
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[QUOTE=Surfer]One key is that he married a pinay and lived in the PI with her. He did not make the common, and serious, mistake of bringing one to the US. I was not so smart.
Youu see lawyers in the PI make 1% of what we make in the US-the ONLY reason I am still living in the GWL (Great Wasteland)). So I did not really having the option of moving there to be with her. 5 years later, she is living in the house and I paid a divorce lawyer $25,000 to get rid of her. Filipinas become Americanized at an alarming rate. For every success story of a couple living happily in the US for decades, there are dozens of bitter divorces where the yankee got cleaned. While my evidence is anecdotal, it is irrefutable. You've been warned.
BPI is great for sending piso to your honeyko in the PI. $7 per remittance, unless it went up again (been a few years).[/QUOTE]
... that a divorce (usually) takes place after 'she' finally got the US- (or Canadian, Swiss, British ... you name it) passport!
What a big surprise if the girl is more than 20 years younger than you!? Wow, the jackpot was hit, big money comes in and the entire world is open now (no travel restrictions anymore). So, why not to bring the former coeval pinoy-lover into the promised land as well?
Just my personal observation, of course!
Cheers
Hesekiels
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Bank of the Philippine Islands - BPI
As stated they allow people to open accounts outside of the Philippines. I am in the process of opening one now. I want to open a checking, savings and possibly a time deposit account. How do people here make deposits to their accounts from overseas? Do you wire the money or send checks or both? Do you send personal checks or some other kind? I have never wired money before and read on another forum that the charges there can be very high. Which branch did you guys open yours at? Any and all advise would be appreciated.
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Opening a BPI Account
[QUOTE=Fred C Dobbs]As stated they allow people to open accounts outside of the Philippines. I am in the process of opening one now. I want to open a checking, savings and possibly a time deposit account. How do people here make deposits to their accounts from overseas? Do you wire the money or send checks or both? Do you send personal checks or some other kind? I have never wired money before and read on another forum that the charges there can be very high. Which branch did you guys open yours at? Any and all advise would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Fred,
Are you resident in PI or USA ( or Oz, UK, etc)?
I tried to open a BPI account from the USA and got the following email from them:
Dear Mr. Davis:
Greetings from BPI Express Online!
We received your e-mail regarding your wish to open a checking account with
us. Thank you for your interest in opening your account with us. However,
we regret to inform you that your request cannot be accommodated at the
moment because you need to go to a branch to sign the necessary papers and to make an initial deposit. As such, may we suggest that you just open your account upon your visit to the Philippines.
Thank you for choosing to bank with us online!
Gary
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BPI Has Branches in SF & LA Where You Can Open the Account
Actually, it is in Daly City (AKA Filipino Town USA) just outside SF. If you live in the Midwest I guess it is not so easy though.
Somebody asked for more detail in the directions to the moneychanger. If you walk out of Malate Pension and turn LEFT (North, away from Remedios Circle) turn LEFT again at the first alley then walk about 20 yards until there is a corner where the alley spilts. The place is in the building on that cornewr which is on your right.
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money change in pi
I never have any problem changing in manila , You need to use your common
sense I only use agent that have alot of people use by local , There are so
many of them in malate , never take offer in the st or accept small bill only use agent have 1000 peso bill , I think manila is easier place in the world to
change US bill or even US traveler check and china is the worst .
fast eddie 48
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Bpi
I applied on line Thursday night and immediately received an e-mail advising me as being a non-Philippine resident to go to one of ther BPI Express Remittance Centers (BERC) which they said they listed below but didn't. The email also asked me to reply to their email and they would proceed with processing my application. I responded to their email but have not heard back from but it is the weekend there. I'll let you know what happens next.
I live in the Los Angeles, California area.
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Mabini ST ripoff
Here is a pic of the Mabini st. ripoff money changer. The name is MACKY. The guy in the foreground has nothing to do with the place.
Lot of posts on this subject, but could you guys please give us some facts so that we know how you came to your conclusions.
Why accept only 1000 bills? I find the damn things nearly impossible to get rid of and much prefer the 500s. Of course 1000 is a lot easier to count, less easy to do slight of hand, but is there any other reason.
Someone says avoid Mabini st. I've changed thousands of dollars there and never had a problem until earlier this month. Why avoid Mabini st.?
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Overseas Banking
I thought I'd add some background information from my research.
Where I currently live in Korea, there are MetroBank branches. So, I asked around if I can have an account. I can, but only with the local branch. Huh?
I inquired a local Filipina bargirl about her accounts. She states that she has two accounts. One here in Korea (in US$) and one back home in PI (in Pesos). Hmmm... Ok...
However, the two accounts are not linked. She cannot transfer money easily. She sends money to her own account in PI (via a wire transfer). She showed me her remittance form. Yep, it has the appropriate charges.
I stated that it doesn't make sense for her to pay such fees for a simple transfer, especially for her own accounts in the same bank. (I am thinking of the ACH [Automatic Clearing House] transfer for US bank accounts.) She said that that's the only way. Hmmm... need verfication...
Anyway, recently, I went to Manila. And, took time out to check with the MetroBank there. The new-accounts manager explains to me that I cannot open an account in Manila without being a resident (i.e. proper IDs/Visa), but if I do have an account with the branch in Korea, then, she may be able to bypass the red tapes and give me an account there. Ok, sounds good.
So, I asked about money transfer. Same story. The two accounts are not linked, so I'd have to pay wire transfer fees to deposit money into the PI account from overseas. Ouch...
This is similar to the local Korean banks. The branches are independent of each other and compete for customers. So, when I had to make a deposit to someone's account, I had to pay a service charge if I am not at the branch where the account was opened. The teller explains to me that they have to send money to the other branch. Wow, totally different from US banks where your account is accessible from all branches, and the bank's money is linked to all branches.
Anyway, I recommend that before you open with the local accounts in your own country, check to see if it is separate from the branches in PI. Or, will there be a respective/linked PI account? Will there be any deposit fees? Or, will there be wire transfer/remittance fees?
Based on emails below, it appears that the online banking forms are linked to BPI in Philippines. Does anyone know if there is similar online service for US branches?
Seeko
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banks
Thanks for the research Seeko,
For the record, I found the exact same thing US/Japan. Japanese banks which had branches in the US, and US banks in Japan (citibank) won't/don't allow you to move money between "branches".
My research is many years old so I don't know if it still applies. I think it has to do with national banking laws.
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Mabini St. Ripoff
Great work.
This is what this board should be all about.
[QUOTE=X Man]Here is a pic of the Mabini st. ripoff money changer. The name is MACKY. The guy in the foreground has nothing to do with the place.
Lot of posts on this subject, but could you guys please give us some facts so that we know how you came to your conclusions.
Why accept only 1000 bills? I find the damn things nearly impossible to get rid of and much prefer the 500s. Of course 1000 is a lot easier to count, less easy to do slight of hand, but is there any other reason.
Someone says avoid Mabini st. I've changed thousands of dollars there and never had a problem until earlier this month. Why avoid Mabini st.?
X[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Bees11]I think by "Jolly's" you mean Joules. Yes it is true that there are many beautiful girls at that club and from my experiences there, I reckon the best way to proceed is to try and get the girl's cell phone no. and try to contact her tbe next day for a private "consultation"!
BTW a $100 tip is far too much. If can cut out the bar fine, 2,000 pesos for a 2-3 hr. session is plenty for a P. Burgos gal and if go the LA Cafe you might be able to bargain her down to even a 1000 p.[/QUOTE]It's Jools. You must spend time to the Dancer. Get their No. and you may have chance in the day time.
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Banks
This is a great blurb for info on banks.The metro bank will not even allow SO I WAS TOLD BY MY GF to let you have money in another location in the PI if the account was not opened at the same branch.True or not thats what she said.Sounds funny to me, she just might have wanted to jsu my cash rather than hers.
The best ATM card to have is a card with "PLUS AND CIRUS" ON the back. Some banks like metro only give you 4000p Per draw, China bank 4,000P per draw,and equetable is 5000p per draw. The BPI bank will let you have 20,000P one draw, and you only get hit for 1 transaction and one overseas charge.When you use the others the bank at home gets you each time you tap the machine 5 dollars or so.Add that up over 5-6 months and it's big money.The other way is to go inside the bank with passport,and zerox coppy of pass port, A current valid id.There you can get 50,000 if you want but do not for get the zerox or they will make you get one. The other problem is they will not allways help you get money.One day at a bank at the freeport subic they ran my card wanted 50,000 and they came back and said there was no money in the account. What's up with that,I asked. The gal said she had no idea.So uotsid I went and got in the ATM line and got my 20,000P and went back in and personally showed the girl that there was money in the account and thanks for all the help.
The problem is you must plan ahead on getting money.Allways find out about hollidays, and banking times.The best way is when there open in case you get your card stuck in the machine.Or the machines might not have any cash left by sunday that happens.Maby not in Manila but smaller cities will have this problem.The holiday problem is you better plan ahead and get your cash to carry you over 2-3 days before the closure of the banks.20,000P limit and 3-4 days with no money might find you broke half way through the weekend.
The casino was said to be a place that will charge you a small fee to get any amount you want off your card.Not sure if they are all the same only herd that about the one in subic.
NEVER TAKE TRAVELERS OF ANY KINE HERE IN PI THEY WILL NOT CASH THEM HERE.I herd a guy from Germany ***** about that at my hotel.
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banks
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]This is a great blurb for info on banks.The metro bank will not even allow SO I WAS TOLD BY MY GF to let you have money in another location in the PI if the account was not opened at the same branch.True or not thats what she said.Sounds funny to me, she just might have wanted to jsu my cash rather than hers.
The best ATM card to have is a card with "PLUS AND CIRUS" ON the back. Some banks like metro only give you 4000p Per draw, China bank 4,000P per draw,and equetable is 5000p per draw. The BPI bank will let you have 20,000P one draw, and you only get hit for 1 transaction and one overseas charge.When you use the others the bank at home gets you each time you tap the machine 5 dollars or so.Add that up over 5-6 months and it's big money.The other way is to go inside the bank with passport,and zerox coppy of pass port, A current valid id.There you can get 50,000 if you want but do not for get the zerox or they will make you get one. The other problem is they will not allways help you get money.One day at a bank at the freeport subic they ran my card wanted 50,000 and they came back and said there was no money in the account. What's up with that,I asked. The gal said she had no idea.So uotsid I went and got in the ATM line and got my 20,000P and went back in and personally showed the girl that there was money in the account and thanks for all the help.
The problem is you must plan ahead on getting money.Allways find out about hollidays, and banking times.The best way is when there open in case you get your card stuck in the machine.Or the machines might not have any cash left by sunday that happens.Maby not in Manila but smaller cities will have this problem.The holiday problem is you better plan ahead and get your cash to carry you over 2-3 days before the closure of the banks.20,000P limit and 3-4 days with no money might find you broke half way through the weekend.
The casino was said to be a place that will charge you a small fee to get any amount you want off your card.Not sure if they are all the same only herd that about the one in subic.
NEVER TAKE TRAVELERS OF ANY KINE HERE IN PI THEY WILL NOT CASH THEM HERE.I herd a guy from Germany ***** about that at my hotel.[/QUOTE]Bill,
During my travels to Manila i have that the HSBC auto teller in Robinson Mall near L.A. Cafe will pay out up to 40,000p (subject to yr card limit, daily draws set by yr own bank)
Never a problem with this machine any 99.9% of times has plently of money.
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Mongering
I first mongered when I was 19 in Costa Rica. I then mongered in South Korea at the ripe age of 23. It sucked, Korean women are beautiful but not fun. At the same age, I mongered in the Philippines. A lot. Now, at the past due age of 32, I no longer look for 19 to 21 year old girls. I want used, older, but still good looking sluts. Am I alone? Anybody?
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[QUOTE=ap1st]I first mongered when I was 19 in Costa Rica. I then mongered in South Korea at the ripe age of 23. It sucked, Korean women are beautiful but not fun. At the same age, I mongered in the Philippines. A lot. Now, at the past due age of 32, I no longer look for 19 to 21 year old girls. I want used, older, but still good looking sluts. Am I alone? Anybody?[/QUOTE]It depends on my mood. Sometimes I want that Hot, hard body. But I do usually end up a little unsatisfied. A seasoned veteran can be a lot more fun. Trick is to find one who is still pretty hot. There are plenty around.
I think most people make the mistake of going for the hottest looking. I actually usually avoid them.
Just my 2 cents.
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Nirvana
Anyone have any information on a club called Nirvana. It is supposed to be in Pasig.
Thanks
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English schools
This may seem like an odd request for information, but this site seems to be a gold mine for all kinds of information.
As you may well know, there are job opportunities for Filipinas that have good English language skills (esp. good pronunciation). There is the tourism industry as well as the call centers.
Does anyone know of a good English school in the Manila area?
Consider an adult, college graduate, working for a foreign owned hotel, good English skills, wants to polish those skills to get a better job and/or promotion.
Thanks,
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[QUOTE=Billpsu]Anyone have any information on a club called Nirvana. It is supposed to be in Pasig.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Nirvana is on the Northwest corner of Taft and Buendia. Bright red neon lights. I was there late and it was primarily a dance club. However, I went there early one time (about 8pm) and girls were dancing with numbers and I noticed the VIP rooms in the back. I was with a girl but the girls came asking us to buy them drinks.
I forgot the rate but I think I posted it here a few weeks ago.
Anyone else have any other info?
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Nirvana
In Ermita?
[QUOTE=Sugoi]Nirvana is on the Northwest corner of Taft and Buendia. Bright red neon lights. I was there late and it was primarily a dance club. However, I went there early one time (about 8pm) and girls were dancing with numbers and I noticed the VIP rooms in the back. I was with a girl but the girls came asking us to buy them drinks.
I forgot the rate but I think I posted it here a few weeks ago.
Anyone else have any other info?[/QUOTE]
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EDSA Entertainment Complex
Was in Manila for a couple of night recently and hit EDSA with a buddy one of the nights.
Happy to report that both he and I could not have been more pleased with the girls we took out of Cotton club. No magic, just the usual "they chose us and we were smart enough not to keep looking" approach.
Mine was 23 and just a sexy hot girl - groping in the bar, and over the course of the night any door was opened. Outstanding and much the way I remember it from years ago when I was there often. The past few years have not been up to this standard and I was really pleased.
1000 piso bar fine and no discussion of money with the girl. Tipped what I though was the right amount and she seems happy with it. I was more than happy with her.
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Nirvana
[QUOTE=Billpsu]In Ermita?[/QUOTE]
I believe it is Pasay.
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Anyone in the Philippines next week.
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[QUOTE=Vague]Bill,
During my travels to Manila i have that the HSBC auto teller in Robinson Mall near L.A. Cafe will pay out up to 40,000p (subject to yr card limit, daily draws set by yr own bank)
Never a problem with this machine any 99.9% of times has plently of money.[/QUOTE]
In the past year I have had two times where my checking account was debited, but I did not receive the money from the ATM (that I know of, I used to be really bad at checking online to ensure that were no other times). This compares with 20 plus years in the US without a single ATM problem. I no longer use ATM's in the Philippines, except in an emergency, and always check online immediately afterwards to check that there was no problems.
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Question
I know this may seem out of context here, but I am contemplating a holiday later this year, and have a list complied of places I want to go. Now my question is, other than rooting hot filipino women, (not that there is anything wrong with this).......is there actually much else to actually do/ see here in the Manila, or the Phils in general?
Thanks
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Nirvana
[QUOTE=Billpsu]Anyone have any information on a club called Nirvana. It is supposed to be in Pasig.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
I am not sure of the location of Nirvana because I was not paying attention to where we were, but Im sure you will have no problem finding it. It is a pretty good sized place. There is a large dance floor and it is often packed. They play mostly hip hop dance music, but will also play some slow songs for you and your lady to get close with. When I was there it was filled with groups Koreans and a few white guys, who were seemingly on solo missions. There are many dancing girls who put on a good show. There is a male attendant in the restroom who will offer you a towel to dry your hands and then attempt to give you a quick massage for a small tip. There are also VIP rooms there, but I did not partake in the fun there since I was with my girl, but each time my girl went to the cr, at least 2 girls ran over to me and I had to chase them away since my Filipina was very jealous.
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What to do in Fils
[QUOTE=DanTheMan]I know this may seem out of context here, but I am contemplating a holiday later this year, and have a list complied of places I want to go. Now my question is, other than rooting hot filipino women, (not that there is anything wrong with this).......is there actually much else to actually do/ see here in the Manila, or the Phils in general?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Hi DTM:
Yes, if you want to overbridge the time between screwing one local girl after the other you can do lots of things in Manila and other parts of the country. The Philippines have much more to offer than only sexy woman! Highly recommendable is the 'Lonely Planet Philippines'. In this travel guide you will find plenty of hints in terms of sightseeing, shopping, cultural events etc.!
Have a great time there!
Hesekiels
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What to do in Fils
Spent 10 days there in January - not a dull moment, as there's plenty to do when you're not at LA cafe or the other bars. Intramuros is a must see and will take all day, the markets especially the huge one at Baclaran are great. I guess it depends if you're after dvds, watches, cheap clothing etc, but the time just flies by and the people at the markets will talk all day to you if you're in that kind of mind.
The malls of course are great places to pick up and they are good places to get cheap eats. I never had a dull moment and never felt threatened - I guess cos it was my first visit that it was all new to me but I will certainly be going back as every day brought something new - just be ready for that certain smile or look as you're walking around the shops and before you know it you are having coffee or something to eat with a nice little office worker who is looking for some extra pocket money. Just be careful of the ladyboys - I was amazed at how hard they were to pick, the old saying about look out for their adam's apple does not always apply!! Be very wary!
If the malls don't work, then you've still got the evening to head to the bars. Sure, on the streets you get hassled by all sorts of peddlers but I just took up a friendly attitude to them all thanked them but said no thanks and just kept moving forward - they will soon lose interest. Experience travelling around on the jeepneys, the taxis are cheap - just barter the fare up front - never a problem!
The golf courses are good and its easy to organise a game - if you're staying at a good hotel they will organise everything for you. Since we don't get a chance to shoot handguns in Australia, I went to a shooting range in Manila - expensive but great fun! The casino is only small compared to Melbourne's Crown but its still a good place to spend time and meet the locals.
I think I went with a good attitude and treated everyone I met with respect - after all you are a visitor. Just be careful and wary, there are so many good looking and willing ladies you can't miss out but just walk around and enjoy the city while you are there!
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Manila Hotels
Please forgive the following seemingly newbie question, but am running out of time and need some quick help. Hopefully my report will make your patience worth while.
I've been searching the forum, without success, for about a week for some information on a good hotel close to the Friday late night/Saturday early action in Manila. I will be arriving late Friday night and will be free until about 5pm Saturday to have some fun before meeting a new Filipina who is planning to win my heart with a few days of passion. However, I would like to have something extra before I meet with her.
I've taken several trips to PI, but always with my Filipina girlfriend, however now that she is out of the picture, I'm making my first mongering trip in a long time. I have stayed at Pan Pacific, but found it to be a little too expensive, but it does have many of the things I like (safe and comforts) and I've tried the Mabuhay Manor, which is a better price and the room is OK, but no in-room safe. I really need a safe because I've heard too many horror stories about guys waking up to find their girl gone as well as cash and valuables.
I am looking for the following:
1. Girl friendly for at least 2 girls
2. In-room safe
3. Good bed (king or queen)
4. Good, strong shower with hot water.
5. Close to a place with good Friday night action and possibly something for Saturday morning (by the way, if you know of something fun for Saturday morning, let me know)
Also, if you have anything you want to add for suggestions, please PM me. I've had several trips to PI, but this is the 1st without my Filipina tagging along.
Thank you for the assistance. If I get enough information via PM, I will complie a list for our future reference.
One more thing, if you know anything about "apartment girls," please let me know. One member made a reference to these girls in a post a while back, but I have not been able to get any additional information about this option.
Nefarious
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Nirvana
The club is on the corner of Gil Puyat and Taft Ave. Can't miss it if you're traveling down Gil Puyat from Makati. Any taxi driver knows the place anyway. And it's not in Pasig, its in Pasay.
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Your answers
[QUOTE=Nefarious]Please forgive the following seemingly newbie question, but am running out of time and need some quick help. Hopefully my report will make your patience worth while.
I've been searching the forum, without success, for about a week for some information on a good hotel close to the Friday late night/Saturday early action in Manila. I will be arriving late Friday night and will be free until about 5pm Saturday to have some fun before meeting a new Filipina who is planning to win my heart with a few days of passion. However, I would like to have something extra before I meet with her.
I've taken several trips to PI, but always with my Filipina girlfriend, however now that she is out of the picture, I'm making my first mongering trip in a long time. I have stayed at Pan Pacific, but found it to be a little too expensive, but it does have many of the things I like (safe and comforts) and I've tried the Mabuhay Manor, which is a better price and the room is OK, but no in-room safe. I really need a safe because I've heard too many horror stories about guys waking up to find their girl gone as well as cash and valuables.
I am looking for the following:
1. Girl friendly for at least 2 girls
2. In-room safe
3. Good bed (king or queen)
4. Good, strong shower with hot water.
5. Close to a place with good Friday night action and possibly something for Saturday morning (by the way, if you know of something fun for Saturday morning, let me know)
Also, if you have anything you want to add for suggestions, please PM me. I've had several trips to PI, but this is the 1st without my Filipina tagging along.
Thank you for the assistance. If I get enough information via PM, I will complie a list for our future reference.
One more thing, if you know anything about "apartment girls," please let me know. One member made a reference to these girls in a post a while back, but I have not been able to get any additional information about this option.
Nefarious[/QUOTE]Here are some potential places,City Garden and Oxford suites to be in the center of the Burgos action,Heritage across the street from the Edsa complex and Quezon City Imperial suites if you like the Timog and other QC Clubs.Have you surfed asia Travel,They have a good collection of Hotels.Regarding Apartment Girls,The proper term is Casa
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[QUOTE=Vague]
During my travels to Manila i have that the HSBC auto teller in Robinson Mall near L.A. Cafe will pay out up to 40,000p (subject to yr card limit, daily draws set by yr own bank) [/QUOTE]
I can confirm that.
Ditto the HSBC close to SM South Mall in Las Pinas, down and across the street.
[QUOTE=Vague]
Never a problem with this machine any 99.9% of times has plently of money.[/QUOTE]
Except when it's "offline" or otherwise broken for hours for the day or weekend.
If you need higher amounts (yes, subject to limits on your card), you can attend with your passport and supplementary pic ID at the Equitable Bank corner of Pedro Gil & Mabini (one block from Robinson Mall, Ermita). I've drawn P50,000 there and could likely have gotten more in one shot. There's another foreigner-friendly Equitable on UN Ave close to the Holiday Inn. Expect to spend between 20 minutes to 1.5 hours for a bank transaction. Avoid Mondays, Fridays, day-after-holiday, and first and middle of month days.
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[QUOTE=ComingToCebu] ...
We received your e-mail regarding your wish to open a checking account with
us. Thank you for your interest in opening your account with us. However,
we regret to inform you that your request cannot be accommodated at the
moment because you need to go to a branch to sign the necessary papers and to make an initial deposit. As such, may we suggest that you just open your account upon your visit to the Philippines.
Gary[/QUOTE]
In my limited experience, BPI is one of the easiest banks for a foreigner to open an account (see my and others postings on this topic in other areas). One must however realize that Phils is a country even more so than the "west" mired in paper-work requirements. You have to show up, and don't forget your passport, your ACR, your supplementary pic ID, photocopies of those, your 1x1 color photo, your proof of residency (Meralco or PLDT billling showing your local Phils address) ... I think that's it unless they change the rules. Then sit there and complete a bunch of forms and cards in duplicate by hand. If you're prepared you'll have your account and ATM card within the hour (or two).
Yes, I'm serious, I just helped a Pinoy brother-in-law open a new BPI account and had to run out to copy his ID and proof of address before he could even start.
You're NOT going to open an account with a Philippine bank without showing up in person with all that here, unless thing radically change overnight, which isn't very likely - unless of course you have a Big Bunch of Money to have someone wave at the "right person" to expedite things for you. Spend enough money and everything can be done. That's still much harder if you're not already here, otherwise just meet the "requirements".
My trivial advice would be, just come, bring some US$ and a bunch of valid credit cards, and deal with your banking needs on the spot. Much easier.
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[QUOTE=photocopies of those, your 1x1 color photo, your proof of residency (Meralco or PLDT billling showing your local Phils address) ... I think that's it unless they change the rules. Then sit there and complete a bunch of forms and cards in duplicate by hand. If you're prepared you'll have your account and ATM card within the hour (or two).
Yes, I'm serious, I just helped a Pinoy brother-in-law open a new BPI account and had to run out to copy his ID and proof of address before he could even start.
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I live in NZ but was able to open at the Ayala branch in Cebu, I just had to provide a local mailing address. But BPI is great once you are able to log on thry the net to ccheck your bank accounts activity.
I transfer overnight from NZ and its there the next morning apart from losing a little in the transaction and currency fluvuations. i pay with NZD to buy USD and then ends up in my BPI account in PHP.
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Bpi
I have been trying to open an account from the US with the Bank of the Philippine Islands. I filled out the application and they answered me saying I would be contacted by an afffiliated bank here in the US. No one contacted me and I don't think they will. No matter, I plan on getting a SRRVisa and will need to open a term deposit account in the Philippines next time I am there. I have been communicating with PSBank on this and will just go ahead an open a checking account at the same time as I open the term deposit.
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[QUOTE=Fred C Dobbs]I have been trying to open an account from the US with the Bank of the Philippine Islands. I filled out the application and they answered me saying I would be contacted by an afffiliated bank here in the US. No one contacted me and I don't think they will. ... [/QUOTE]
You expect someone to personally followup with you, especially overseas, unless you personally paid them to make it worth their while and they surely expect to see you again for more? Othwise don't count on it. "Customer Service" here is "who you know" and "who you pay" or more importantly both.
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Casa (aka "apartment") girls
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Regarding Apartment Girls,The proper term is Casa[/QUOTE]
Ok, now I'm curious, what do you and the other poster mean by Casa (aka "apartment") girls?
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Casa
[QUOTE=CanContrib]Ok, now I'm curious, what do you and the other poster mean by Casa (aka "apartment") girls?[/QUOTE]
girls you get at a house aka Casa,The places you go to in Cavite are casas or euphemisms for brothels where you take out,unlike MP s or KTV which you can "dine in"Hope this clarifies things.
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[QUOTE=Cebu Local]girls you get at a house aka Casa,The places you go to in Cavite are casas or euphemisms for brothels where you take out,unlike MP s or KTV which you can "dine in"Hope this clarifies things.[/QUOTE]
Talaga! Sige, marunong ko na! Here I thought I was going to learn about something new! So I've been wise to this all along? Sige. Insert smiley.
I do remember a few years ago with I was a lot greener in Phils, a pimp I was friendly to took me to a "casa" on Del Pilar about a block or so north of LA Cafe, same side though you'd never know it's there if not taken there. I was totally lost back then. I had told him I only had about P500 total and he said walang problema. Through the front door, ok'd past the dude there, upstairs, introduced to the "manager" who trotted out more than a dozen quite young girls in school uniforms for me to choose from. In retrospect I now know they would be college (that's younger here!) girls "working" in the evening to pay their tuition etc. We had a beer and I too-cautiously bailed out and went home to wait for my gf (now wife) to come home to me. I should have stayed and parted with the rest of my 500, but I was too green and too careful. Then again, I was going home to someone much more enticing and worth being home to great. Obviously it's an evening place, since the girls would all be in college daytime. Someday I should try to go back there, if it's still there. If not, well, cross the street and let the school girls at the "new" Amazonia hit on you.
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My first trip report
Okay, just got back from 2 weeks in Manila. I will do my best to keep this short and sweet. This was my first time out of the U.S., but I'm only 23 so I don't think i've procrastinated TOO long with my traveling. One word of advice to anyone who, like me, is an inexperienced traveler, if at all possible go with a friend. I went with an office mate who I've known for a few years and that made things 10 times easier. I had no idea what I was getting into, really. His family treated me like one of their own, if not better. I have to say that most filipinos seem to be extremely generous and caring people, unless you're in a bar where everyone seems to have their hands out as soon as they spot the white man.
I hope you don't mind my random observations. Again this was only a 2 week trip so its not like I'm an expert, these are just the impressions I was given.
Like I said I went with a friend who is still there visiting family. It amazes me how close filipinos are to their family, mostly I think because I come from a broken home and family doesn't really mean much of anything to me. As a result, though, I didn't really get to do much mongering. First event was at a club in Malate called 'Absynthe'. I don't know what you call this kind of club, there are girls that dance on stage, and if you want to buy them a 300 peso drink they will sit with you and you can talk to them. I chose a girl who was maybe a 7 or an 8, definatly the prettiest girl there and the only one I saw that didn't look like she was under 18. She later confirmed for me that most of the girls dancing there were around 16 or 17. Sat with her for a while, played it cool, I wasn't sure if she was pro or not, or how things work at a bar like this, but she started holding my hand, leaning against me, all of that sort of thing. My friends got the impression that she liked me, but I wasnt sure if she was a pro or not, like I said, so I figured it was all part of the sell. Got her number before we left, she was a very intelligent girl and we got along. Ended up having a rendezvous later. Only spent that 300 pesos on her total. Was going to take her with me to boracay but she said she had to work, which my associates informed me meant she wanted me to pay her to go with on top of giving her a free vacation. Didn't speak to her after that.
Other than that, I also checked out Amazonia and LA Cafe of course. LA Cafe is worth seeing just for the phenomenon that it is. You won't be in there longer than 5 minutes before girls start clinging to you. I've never been so blatantly groped in a private place by a near stranger before. It was fun. I have to say that I liked amazonia more though. I don't know if all the girls there are pro or not, but there was way less hustle, and I thought the body painting was cool. I also enjoyed the music more. Its a great place to take a girl you meet at LA cafe, in my opinion. Prices at LA cafe seemed to be around 2000 pesos for all night, though I found out later you can barter down to 1500 without much trouble. Got one down to 1k but either the choice of girl or the low price caused a dramatic reduction in GFE value so I had her leave fairly early.
A word about the GFE in the philippines....the girls from LA Cafe with the exception of that one were 10x better than any girlfriend I've ever had. Also, I found it extremely easy to hook up with girls in clubs. A lot of them seemed to be after one night encounters, which surprised me because I had heard so much about how conservative filipinas are. I guess there's also another side to everything.
That was roughly the extent of my mongering. One of the guys we were spending time with knew the owners of quite a few strip clubs, but I didn't really get into that. I think it came to around 3300 pesos when all was said and done if you wanted to vip one of the girls. They were generally very pretty, but the little time I spent talking to them...they weren't much different from any strippers I've talked to here in america. I've never really enjoyed strippers, so maybe I was a little jaded, but it just wasn't my thing. I think next trip, though, I will give it another shot. I didn't try any MP's either unfortunatly. LA Cafe was just too much fun and too much cheaper. What can I say, I am a frugal guy.
One word about boracay, my biggest mistake was not taking someone there. I figured I could meet someone there, and I did meet quite a few very pretty girls, but it was very different from manila. They were all from provinces I had never heard of, and getting to know them seemed a very formal thing. I felt like I was on trial with their family/friends, and God forbid you try to initiate any physical contact on the first meeting. I didn't have time for all that nonsense. Others may have more luck there, it could be that I was just unlucky. I also wasn't there on a weekend which could also be a contributing factor. Did get hit on by a lot of gay guys though. I thought living in los angeles would make me immune to that but LA's got nothing on what I experienced there. Not that I have a problem with anyone thats gay, I just didn't expect it there.
I can add a lot of commentary on what I thought of the philippines in general if its desired, but I feel like it would be off topic for this forum. If anyone is interested though, let me know, especially if there are any westerners who live there now. I would be interested in their take on the place in general.
I stayed at a hotel called the 'Fersal'. Its in sta. cruz and I never found one taxi driver that had heard of it. Its actually a pretty nice place, has hot water, cable, security, all that stuff. Rooms are clean but a little on the small side. 1,300 per night for the regular rooms with a 10% discount for booking a full week, more of a discount if you book a month. I debating hooking up with the girls at the desk but wasn't sure if it would be a good idea. Could have gotten more of a discount maybe, but then I may not have been so welcome to bring girls up to my room.
Anyway, my first report, hope you enjoy it.
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]
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Great Report and Observations
[color=purple]Great report Xtorted Decay, all who haven't check out the Philippines yet should read this. A report from eyes of a young man that's been to the Philippines for the first time, I'm sure it's not the last. Excellent observation young man. You have demostrated that you are an asset to this board and I'm sure you will be adding many report in future of your trips to the PI. At age 23, you have a lifetime of trips waiting. Those who are thinking about a trip to the PI this report should make up your mind.
Sound like you were smart and RTFF and did your intel before you went in, good planning always pays off. I'm sure your next trip will always be better than the last.
Thanks for the great report.
RaZZoR[/color]
[QUOTE=Xtorted Decay]Okay, just got back from 2 weeks in Manila. I will do my best to keep this short and sweet. This was my first time out of the U.S., but I'm only 23 so I don't think i've procrastinated TOO long with my traveling. One word of advice to anyone who, like me, is an inexperienced traveler, if at all possible go with a friend. I went with an office mate who I've known for a few years and that made things 10 times easier. I had no idea what I was getting into, really. His family treated me like one of their own, if not better. I have to say that most filipinos seem to be extremely generous and caring people, unless you're in a bar where everyone seems to have their hands out as soon as they spot the white man.
I hope you don't mind my random observations. Again this was only a 2 week trip so its not like I'm an expert, these are just the impressions I was given.
Like I said I went with a friend who is still there visiting family. It amazes me how close filipinos are to their family, mostly I think because I come from a broken home and family doesn't really mean much of anything to me. As a result, though, I didn't really get to do much mongering. First event was at a club in Malate called 'Absynthe'. I don't know what you call this kind of club, there are girls that dance on stage, and if you want to buy them a 300 peso drink they will sit with you and you can talk to them. I chose a girl who was maybe a 7 or an 8, definatly the prettiest girl there and the only one I saw that didn't look like she was under 18. She later confirmed for me that most of the girls dancing there were around 16 or 17. Sat with her for a while, played it cool, I wasn't sure if she was pro or not, or how things work at a bar like this, but she started holding my hand, leaning against me, all of that sort of thing. My friends got the impression that she liked me, but I wasnt sure if she was a pro or not, like I said, so I figured it was all part of the sell. Got her number before we left, she was a very intelligent girl and we got along. Ended up having a rendezvous later. Only spent that 300 pesos on her total. Was going to take her with me to boracay but she said she had to work, which my associates informed me meant she wanted me to pay her to go with on top of giving her a free vacation. Didn't speak to her after that.
Other than that, I also checked out Amazonia and LA Cafe of course. LA Cafe is worth seeing just for the phenomenon that it is. You won't be in there longer than 5 minutes before girls start clinging to you. I've never been so blatantly groped in a private place by a near stranger before. It was fun. I have to say that I liked amazonia more though. I don't know if all the girls there are pro or not, but there was way less hustle, and I thought the body painting was cool. I also enjoyed the music more. Its a great place to take a girl you meet at LA cafe, in my opinion. Prices at LA cafe seemed to be around 2000 pesos for all night, though I found out later you can barter down to 1500 without much trouble. Got one down to 1k but either the choice of girl or the low price caused a dramatic reduction in GFE value so I had her leave fairly early.
A word about the GFE in the philippines....the girls from LA Cafe with the exception of that one were 10x better than any girlfriend I've ever had. Also, I found it extremely easy to hook up with girls in clubs. A lot of them seemed to be after one night encounters, which surprised me because I had heard so much about how conservative filipinas are. I guess there's also another side to everything.
That was roughly the extent of my mongering. One of the guys we were spending time with knew the owners of quite a few strip clubs, but I didn't really get into that. I think it came to around 3300 pesos when all was said and done if you wanted to vip one of the girls. They were generally very pretty, but the little time I spent talking to them...they weren't much different from any strippers I've talked to here in america. I've never really enjoyed strippers, so maybe I was a little jaded, but it just wasn't my thing. I think next trip, though, I will give it another shot. I didn't try any MP's either unfortunatly. LA Cafe was just too much fun and too much cheaper. What can I say, I am a frugal guy.
One word about boracay, my biggest mistake was not taking someone there. I figured I could meet someone there, and I did meet quite a few very pretty girls, but it was very different from manila. They were all from provinces I had never heard of, and getting to know them seemed a very formal thing. I felt like I was on trial with their family/friends, and God forbid you try to initiate any physical contact on the first meeting. I didn't have time for all that nonsense. Others may have more luck there, it could be that I was just unlucky. I also wasn't there on a weekend which could also be a contributing factor. Did get hit on by a lot of gay guys though. I thought living in los angeles would make me immune to that but LA's got nothing on what I experienced there. Not that I have a problem with anyone thats gay, I just didn't expect it there.
I can add a lot of commentary on what I thought of the philippines in general if its desired, but I feel like it would be off topic for this forum. If anyone is interested though, let me know, especially if there are any westerners who live there now. I would be interested in their take on the place in general.
I stayed at a hotel called the 'Fersal'. Its in sta. cruz and I never found one taxi driver that had heard of it. Its actually a pretty nice place, has hot water, cable, security, all that stuff. Rooms are clean but a little on the small side. 1,300 per night for the regular rooms with a 10% discount for booking a full week, more of a discount if you book a month. I debating hooking up with the girls at the desk but wasn't sure if it would be a good idea. Could have gotten more of a discount maybe, but then I may not have been so welcome to bring girls up to my room.
Anyway, my first report, hope you enjoy it.
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue][/QUOTE]
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intel
You can do all the intel you want but you must get the guts to go over. You will find that all the lessions you will learn will cost you some money. I have ben home for 2 months after staying 6 months in the P. I. I had never stayed in another country. Everything I learned was from personal experance, not all good advice from others. Remember what works for one guy will be a problem for another. There are many reasons that guys from around the globe go to the P. I. Girls must be first reason. The other is the great difference in exchange rates.
The overall beauty of the country will not be seen in Manila from a hotel window. The only way to see the nicer things here is to get away from the city lights. You take a cab or a bus, this is cheep, and easy. The taxi drivers smell blood in the water when they see a foreign person on the street. The only thing I would say is never forget to tell the driver to use the meter!
The bus deal is cheep also, less than ten U. S. Dollars will get you so far away from Manila that you think you are in another country. The victory liner service is as good as any big bus service in the U. S. The great thing here is you will not have to worry about trouble because they will not stop in bad areas. The average first timer is not gonna travel much but it is safe to use public trans. You will never get to see things if you stay around the city, and you can get and have a tour guide with you from any gal you ask. Even the hardest bar gal knows that she is better off showing a first time guy around the country than she is getting groped by several guys a night in the bar.
Ask and you will be surprised, at how many gals will want to line up and be your personal guide. After all you can never go wrong with a person looking after you every need. The cost is up to you, you can get meals outside minils for 2-4 dollars each. Guys do not know that Burgos st. Is every bit as expensive as the general areas in the states. Food is the same hotels the same price, and gals are high priced here also.
Travel outside manila go to subic, or other foreigner friendly places, the girls are everywhere waiting with bated breath.
B. B.
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Great post
[QUOTE=Xtorted Decay]Okay, just got back from 2 weeks in Manila. I will do my best to keep this short and sweet. This was my first time out of the U.S., but I'm only 23 so I don't think i've procrastinated TOO long with my traveling. One word of advice to anyone who, like me, is an inexperienced traveler, if at all possible go with a friend. I went with an office mate who I've known for a few years and that made things 10 times easier. I had no idea what I was getting into, really. His family treated me like one of their own, if not better. I have to say that most filipinos seem to be extremely generous and caring people, unless you're in a bar where everyone seems to have their hands out as soon as they spot the white man.
I hope you don't mind my random observations. Again this was only a 2 week trip so its not like I'm an expert, these are just the impressions I was given.
Like I said I went with a friend who is still there visiting family. It amazes me how close filipinos are to their family, mostly I think because I come from a broken home and family doesn't really mean much of anything to me. As a result, though, I didn't really get to do much mongering. First event was at a club in Malate called 'Absynthe'. I don't know what you call this kind of club, there are girls that dance on stage, and if you want to buy them a 300 peso drink they will sit with you and you can talk to them. I chose a girl who was maybe a 7 or an 8, definatly the prettiest girl there and the only one I saw that didn't look like she was under 18. She later confirmed for me that most of the girls dancing there were around 16 or 17. Sat with her for a while, played it cool, I wasn't sure if she was pro or not, or how things work at a bar like this, but she started holding my hand, leaning against me, all of that sort of thing. My friends got the impression that she liked me, but I wasnt sure if she was a pro or not, like I said, so I figured it was all part of the sell. Got her number before we left, she was a very intelligent girl and we got along. Ended up having a rendezvous later. Only spent that 300 pesos on her total. Was going to take her with me to boracay but she said she had to work, which my associates informed me meant she wanted me to pay her to go with on top of giving her a free vacation. Didn't speak to her after that.
Other than that, I also checked out Amazonia and LA Cafe of course. LA Cafe is worth seeing just for the phenomenon that it is. You won't be in there longer than 5 minutes before girls start clinging to you. I've never been so blatantly groped in a private place by a near stranger before. It was fun. I have to say that I liked amazonia more though. I don't know if all the girls there are pro or not, but there was way less hustle, and I thought the body painting was cool. I also enjoyed the music more. Its a great place to take a girl you meet at LA cafe, in my opinion. Prices at LA cafe seemed to be around 2000 pesos for all night, though I found out later you can barter down to 1500 without much trouble. Got one down to 1k but either the choice of girl or the low price caused a dramatic reduction in GFE value so I had her leave fairly early.
A word about the GFE in the philippines....the girls from LA Cafe with the exception of that one were 10x better than any girlfriend I've ever had. Also, I found it extremely easy to hook up with girls in clubs. A lot of them seemed to be after one night encounters, which surprised me because I had heard so much about how conservative filipinas are. I guess there's also another side to everything.
That was roughly the extent of my mongering. One of the guys we were spending time with knew the owners of quite a few strip clubs, but I didn't really get into that. I think it came to around 3300 pesos when all was said and done if you wanted to vip one of the girls. They were generally very pretty, but the little time I spent talking to them...they weren't much different from any strippers I've talked to here in america. I've never really enjoyed strippers, so maybe I was a little jaded, but it just wasn't my thing. I think next trip, though, I will give it another shot. I didn't try any MP's either unfortunatly. LA Cafe was just too much fun and too much cheaper. What can I say, I am a frugal guy.
One word about boracay, my biggest mistake was not taking someone there. I figured I could meet someone there, and I did meet quite a few very pretty girls, but it was very different from manila. They were all from provinces I had never heard of, and getting to know them seemed a very formal thing. I felt like I was on trial with their family/friends, and God forbid you try to initiate any physical contact on the first meeting. I didn't have time for all that nonsense. Others may have more luck there, it could be that I was just unlucky. I also wasn't there on a weekend which could also be a contributing factor. Did get hit on by a lot of gay guys though. I thought living in los angeles would make me immune to that but LA's got nothing on what I experienced there. Not that I have a problem with anyone thats gay, I just didn't expect it there.
I can add a lot of commentary on what I thought of the philippines in general if its desired, but I feel like it would be off topic for this forum. If anyone is interested though, let me know, especially if there are any westerners who live there now. I would be interested in their take on the place in general.
I stayed at a hotel called the 'Fersal'. Its in sta. cruz and I never found one taxi driver that had heard of it. Its actually a pretty nice place, has hot water, cable, security, all that stuff. Rooms are clean but a little on the small side. 1,300 per night for the regular rooms with a 10% discount for booking a full week, more of a discount if you book a month. I debating hooking up with the girls at the desk but wasn't sure if it would be a good idea. Could have gotten more of a discount maybe, but then I may not have been so welcome to bring girls up to my room.
Anyway, my first report, hope you enjoy it.
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue][/QUOTE]I too visited the Phils for the first time when I was 23. That was back in 99. But, I was fucking everything in site. I was a walking hardon. Whenever I visit Manila, the first 24 hours I probably squirt 6-8 times with at least 6 different women. Its like a crackhead getting his smoke on after a dryspell.
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[QUOTE=CanContrib]I do remember a few years ago when I was a lot greener in Phils, a pimp I was friendly with took me to a "casa" on Del Pilar about a block or so north of LA Cafe, same side though [/QUOTE]I wonder if you mean south of LA Cafe, just across from Amazonia. I was in Manila in March staying at the Executive Plaza. There is a tout that sits on a stool in front of the 7-11 right next to the hotel. I came back from the LA Cafe one early evening by myself as the pickings were slim and he told me of this casa a few minutes away. Anyway I went with him along Del Pilar and a few doors before LA Cafe on the same side of the road. You walk in this door and then turn left and then right up a short flight of steps into this large room on your right. There were about 25 girls sitting against a wall and the tout introduces me to this guy who tells me to have a look and take my time. They were from 6 to 8's and were 2,000 pesos for all night.
The girl I took did not really speak much, gave a decent but not great BBBJ but was a tremendous fuck and seemed to really enjoy fucking.
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[QUOTE=Fog Ducker]I wonder if you mean south of LA Cafe, just across from Amazonia. I was in Manila in March staying at the Executive Plaza. There is a tout that sits on a stool in front of the 7-11 right next to the hotel. I came back from the LA Cafe one early evening by myself as the pickings were slim and he told me of this casa a few minutes away. Anyway I went with him along Del Pilar and a few doors before LA Cafe on the same side of the road. You walk in this door and then turn left and then right up a short flight of steps into this large room on your right. There were about 25 girls sitting against a wall and the tout introduces me to this guy who tells me to have a look and take my time. They were from 6 to 8's and were 2,000 pesos for all night.
The girl I took did not really speak much, gave a decent but not great BBBJ but was a tremendous fuck and seemed to really enjoy fucking.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps you meant to write *north* of LA Cafe (towards Amazonia), since south is the other direction towards Pedro Gil.
From your description, that's very likely the same place, though of course one would expect the asking price to have tripled as has everything else in Malate the last few years. Thanks for posting your update.
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[QUOTE=CanContrib]Perhaps you meant to write *north* of LA Cafe (towards Amazonia), since south is the other direction towards Pedro Gil.[/QUOTE]You are right. I stand corrected.
A lot of fellow mongers think casa's are a waste of time for the extra costs but for not a bit more you can dispense with the bs and hit and miss at the freelance bars. I haven't seen a 9 or 10 at a casa yet but they consistently have 6-8's and their attitudes are great. Whoever you choose WILL go with you unlike the Edsa bars, etc and I have never drawn a blank yet.
I still enjoy and prefer the chase at the bars but when the pickings are slim I know where to go !
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[QUOTE=Fog Ducker]You are right. I stand corrected.
A lot of fellow mongers think casa's are a waste of time for the extra costs but for not a bit more you can dispense with the bs and hit and miss at the freelance bars. I haven't seen a 9 or 10 at a casa yet but they consistently have 6-8's and their attitudes are great. Whoever you choose WILL go with you unlike the Edsa bars, etc and I have never drawn a blank yet. I still enjoy and prefer the chase at the bars but when the pickings are slim I know where to go ![/QUOTE]
Extra cost? I've had more than a few wonderful (girl saying in Tagalog) "no I don't want to stop" repeated gf experiences at one particular casa I know and with beer, room, and GFE I would typically spend less than P1000. for as long as I might reasonablly want "short time". Thereafter get a cell# and spend eveb less "labas susunod" (or more, depending on how much you like your new gf). Of course if you drag out the "relationship" then you reasonably expect her "needs" to become important.
Not of interest to someone who's here for a few hours or a few days or perhaps even only a few weeks, but beyond that casa's are both an assured no-frills quickie and a source of long term gf's, especially if it's out in the open where you can let passer-by non-casa girls hit on you and give your their cell #s. If you're sitting in a casa, girls passing by aren't going to be terribly confused as to your needs.
Depending on one's location, bars are a MUCH more expensive choice, even if you know that you can enjoy some cutie's internals for one-thousand until closing time in very cramped quarters "may daming lamok". There I'm talking about rural bars; if in metro manila your cost "sa quarto" is much higher though you might escape mosquitoes, without even mentioning the foolishness of "bar-fines" in the wrong places. While not the "casa" we've been discussing in this thread, I've found real (as much as you can expect long-term) gf's in more rural casas. I only wish I had time away from "home" to enjoy all the results all the time.
Some of the 'gf's do understand directions to come and see me way out here, since a lot of them *are* from here (outside of metro manila), though of course I always provide a few extra pesos for "transportation" when they come to me just to spend time with me.
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A Saturday night out
So last Saturday was to be my last field trip for maybe two months, so I thought I had better make the most of it. I'd been out almost every night for the past three weeks, so I also felt that I didn't have to barfine a girl that night, but I also knew that I wouldn't stop trying until early the next morning.
Got my regular start at about 8:00 at EDSA. Checked out all the bars there until about 10:00. Cotton Club had been very lucky for me as of late, but I have already barfined all of the cute girls there, some multiple times, and I found nothing new tonight. Also, many of the girls are returning to school, so the really hot "need my tuition money" ones are harder to find. Last weekend was really great as it was the last weekend for girls to make their tuition.
Headed over to LA Cafe. Didn't find anying interesting there. There was a small fire there about 11:00, and you should have seen the place empty out in a hurry. Wouldn't want to get stuck there in a big one, so I just headed for the door.
Decided to check out Stingfellows accross the street. This is the old Jurassic. Big improvement! A gogo bar based on the Angeles City Model. Everything is black, with lots of florescent painting on the walls and black lights. The selection was OK, and the barfine was $1,600, which also included 3 ladies drinks. Even had the requisite cherry girl with her sister looking out for her. As I have said before, Ermita is really picking up and now has two gogobars and three freelancer bars, plus all the Jap places if that is your thing. Since the gogo bar taboo has now been broken twice here without issue, and there is a lot of real estate for rent here at dirt cheap prices, can it be long until the place returns to its glory days of the 70's. Should be fun to see what happens in the coming years.
Anyway, still hadn't found anything so decided to head to Burgoss. First bar I walked into was Blush. I know the mamasan and the owner here, and she immediately sends over a girl. WOW! This chick was really hot, and so very nice. I got a boner in about a minute, which was my first one of the night. In fact, I've been with so many girls by now that I rarely make a conscous decision about who I will bang on a given night. I just let my dick decide, and have generally been quite satisfied with his choices.
The nice thing about Blush is that it is the only bar I know of with full size hotel type rooms upstairs. Now its not quite Victoria Court, but the room is big, clean, decent bathroom, and a big bed. The short time price is 1,000P, plus 3,000 for the bar and 2,000 for the girl. It's no bargain, but can be quite convenient.
I asked her how long she had been working there and she said it was her first day back after a month absense. She worked there 3 days previously, but had a problem with a customer and had to leave. "What happend" I asked. She said he gave her some ecstacy and she couldn't eat or sleap properly for a week, and needed a month before feeling comfortable about returning to work. Now, I've taken X with many bar girls without ever having a problem, so I figured that she must have had some bad stuff. "Did you take whole one" I asked (I usually give a girl a quarter if she is a newbe, maybe a third or a half if she has done it before). She asked me what I meant. I explained that she should have taken a lot less then a whole pill. She then says "but I took three". HOLY SHIT. What kind of moron gives a bargirl 3 pills? What posible reason could there be. You are going to get laid anyway, so why would you want to freak someoue out like that. What if she goes crazy and the police come. There is no way of getting out of a trip to jail if they figure out you gave a girl an OD of drugs.
Anyway, I take her upstairs for a session. Maybe the best girl I had in this three week excursion. Isn't it funny how you always find the best one on your last day.
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Why Do It
[QUOTE=LoveAsian*****s]So last Saturday was to be my last field trip for maybe two months, so I thought I had better make the most of it. I'd been out almost every night for the past three weeks, so I also felt that I didn't have to barfine a girl that night, but I also knew that I wouldn't stop trying until early the next morning.
Got my regular start at about 8:00 at EDSA. Checked out all the bars there until about 10:00. Cotton Club had been very lucky for me as of late, but I have already barfined all of the cute girls there, some multiple times, and I found nothing new tonight. Also, many of the girls are returning to school, so the really hot "need my tuition money" ones are harder to find. Last weekend was really great as it was the last weekend for girls to make their tuition.
Headed over to LA Cafe. Didn't find anying interesting there. There was a small fire there about 11:00, and you should have seen the place empty out in a hurry. Wouldn't want to get stuck there in a big one, so I just headed for the door.
Decided to check out Stingfellows accross the street. This is the old Jurassic. Big improvement! A gogo bar based on the Angeles City Model. Everything is black, with lots of florescent painting on the walls and black lights. The selection was OK, and the barfine was $1,600, which also included 3 ladies drinks. Even had the requisite cherry girl with her sister looking out for her. As I have said before, Ermita is really picking up and now has two gogobars and three freelancer bars, plus all the Jap places if that is your thing. Since the gogo bar taboo has now been broken twice here without issue, and there is a lot of real estate for rent here at dirt cheap prices, can it be long until the place returns to its glory days of the 70's. Should be fun to see what happens in the coming years.
Anyway, still hadn't found anything so decided to head to Burgoss. First bar I walked into was Blush. I know the mamasan and the owner here, and she immediately sends over a girl. WOW! This chick was really hot, and so very nice. I got a boner in about a minute, which was my first one of the night. In fact, I've been with so many girls by now that I rarely make a conscous decision about who I will bang on a given night. I just let my dick decide, and have generally been quite satisfied with his choices.
The nice thing about Blush is that it is the only bar I know of with full size hotel type rooms upstairs. Now its not quite Victoria Court, but the room is big, clean, decent bathroom, and a big bed. The short time price is 1,000P, plus 3,000 for the bar and 2,000 for the girl. It's no bargain, but can be quite convenient.
I asked her how long she had been working there and she said it was her first day back after a month absense. She worked there 3 days previously, but had a problem with a customer and had to leave. "What happend" I asked. She said he gave her some ecstacy and she couldn't eat or sleap properly for a week, and needed a month before feeling comfortable about returning to work. Now, I've taken X with many bar girls without ever having a problem, so I figured that she must have had some bad stuff. "Did you take whole one" I asked (I usually give a girl a quarter if she is a newbe, maybe a third or a half if she has done it before). She asked me what I meant. I explained that she should have taken a lot less then a whole pill. She then says "but I took three". HOLY SHIT. What kind of moron gives a bargirl 3 pills? What posible reason could there be. You are going to get laid anyway, so why would you want to freak someoue out like that. What if she goes crazy and the police come. There is no way of getting out of a trip to jail if they figure out you gave a girl an OD of drugs.
Anyway, I take her upstairs for a session. Maybe the best girl I had in this three week excursion. Isn't it funny how you always find the best one on your last day.[/QUOTE]
With the way the law is here why would you, or anyone be in the drug scene over there??? The punishment for drugs in the P.I. is death!Or big money to get off the hook.Not my business, to each his own, but that's not a smart proposition here or anywhere else for that matter getting yourself a set of crosshairs right between the eyes.
There are drugs all over the place there but who wants that problem to pop up when you already know its a big time crime in this country? Like I said do what you want but that's not using your brain that's inviting trouble on a grand scale.If caught YOU are the atm that's gonna get tapped not the gal with you.And do you think You might or could be the token foreigner that's used as the new poster child for a zero tolerance drug law.
I am not judging anyone, only saying that if that's what you like do,do it at home and not here in the P.I. You are the example always,and you have or can get the money to pay for your play in the eyes looking at you there.
Use your big head,Think First.
B.B.
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Mongering in a Pack
I had the pleasure last week of meeting up with Guinness and Senator Dashing Don. The Don is a veteran monger who has met many members on this board and I would recommend his company to anybody who visits S.E. Asia or South America. He knows how to work the ladies.
As an example, at one establishment he told the Mamasan to bring him a “new” girl. Within seconds she brought him a doe eyed young pretty lady. The Mamasan said the only problem was that she spoke no English and did not know how to use an elevator. The Don looked at Guinness and me with a confident smile as he knew he was in love for the night. I’m sure he taught her a few other things that evening besides how to use an elevator… more news when I get over my jet lag.
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sex YES, drugs NO !!!
[quote=bill buxton]with the way the law is here why would you, or anyone be in the drug scene over there??? the punishment for drugs in the p.i. is death!or big money to get off the hook.not my business, to each his own, but that's not a smart proposition here or anywhere else for that matter getting yourself a set of crosshairs right between the eyes.[/quote]
aking gandang pnp kaibigang told me straight out "if you have to kill someone, lose the gun and call me imnediately, no problem. if it has anything to do with drugs don"t call me because then i can't help you and don't even know you."
i really hope i never have to shoot someone in self-defence and sure as shit i have zero interest in drugs here. one would have to be a total idiot. don't even think about it. even big money might not be enough. you;d be better off being taken away on kiddie-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] charges and you already know that's a very bad thing. drug suspects seem to wind up dead "trying to escape" more likely than in court, about on par with violent insurgents. when it's a drug issue, even buying senators is probably not enough, even if you had the connections and opportunity, so don't even go there. just don"t !!!
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[QUOTE=LoveAsian*****s] She said he gave her some ecstacy and she couldn't eat or sleap properly for a week, and needed a month before feeling comfortable about returning to work. Now, I've taken X with many bar girls without ever having a problem, so I figured that she must have had some bad stuff. "Did you take whole one" I asked (I usually give a girl a quarter if she is a newbe, maybe a third or a half if she has done it before). She asked me what I meant. I explained that she should have taken a lot less then a whole pill. She then says "but I took three". HOLY SHIT. What kind of moron gives a bargirl 3 pills? What posible reason could there be. You are going to get laid anyway, so why would you want to freak someoue out like that. What if she goes crazy and the police come. There is no way of getting out of a trip to jail if they figure out you gave a girl an OD of drugs.
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You asked and answered your own rhetorical question - only a moronic loser would give someone drugs. Feed them real food and lots of beer instead and know when to take them out of the bar.
I met a previous acquaintance a while ago, she told me her friend had given her some "ectsasy" and she was sorely regretting having trusted her (female) friend. She asked me to just get her out of there to some place she could be with me and then sleep safely. I did, she did (very well given her condition, I'd rather have had her straight), and I tucked her in and left. I hope she's ok, haven't seen her since though I've not been back to LA since then. I worried the next few days "what if she OD's on that shit some fool gave her". Few months later no one has come to get me for some shit her "friend" pulled on her so I guess and hope she's fine after sleeping it off. Still in retrospect drugs, no matter who provides them are a VERY BAD SCENE in Philippines. Run away fast, as I will next time I have any inkling of such. I should have that time, just to be safe. It's just not worth a free great lay. You don't even want to be in the same place.
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I have to completely disagree with your statement that if you do drugs, do it at home. First, the Philippines is my home. Second, the Philippines is one of the only countries in the world that you can buy your way out of any drug (or other legal problem for that matter) with money. Try bribing a prosecutor in the US! The incarceration rate in the Philippines is 3 per thousand. The incarceration rate in the US is 85 per thousand. And a very high percentage of those 85 are in for drug crimes, many for merely using drugs. How many foreigners are in Philippine jails for drug related charges? Except for some big time Asian traffickers, probably very, very few, if any. Yes, in the event you were caught you would have to pay a bribe, but the bribe would still be a lot less than hiring an attorney in the US, and at least the bribe gets you out of trouble. No guarantee with an attorney. I have lived in the Philippines for a while and have many expat friends that have lived here over 30 years. Every one to them will tell you that they are far more afraid of law enforcement in the west then here in the Philippines. I think a lot of people throw the Philippines in with Indonesia, Thailand, Singapore, Malaysia etc when considering the police and jucicial system. The Philippines is unique however. It is ABSOLUTELY corrupt from from the police to the judges. You could reasonably argue that you should stay away from drugs to avoid trouble, but if you do chose to use drugs, I can think of no safer country (excpet maybe Holland) to use them. One of the reasons that I choose to live in the Philippines is that I can pretty much do anything that I want.
And anyway, lets say that I agree with you that there is a huge risk with doing drugs here. Have you ever had a whole night of ecstacy induced sex with a bargirl? If I was going to take a big risk over something, I can think of nothing that was more worth the risk.
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]With the way the law is here why would you, or anyone be in the drug scene over there??? The punishment for drugs in the P.I. is death!Or big money to get off the hook.Not my business, to each his own, but that's not a smart proposition here or anywhere else for that matter getting yourself a set of crosshairs right between the eyes.
There are drugs all over the place there but who wants that problem to pop up when you already know its a big time crime in this country? Like I said do what you want but that's not using your brain that's inviting trouble on a grand scale.If caught YOU are the atm that's gonna get tapped not the gal with you.And do you think You might or could be the token foreigner that's used as the new poster child for a zero tolerance drug law.
I am not judging anyone, only saying that if that's what you like do,do it at home and not here in the P.I. You are the example always,and you have or can get the money to pay for your play in the eyes looking at you there.
Use your big head,Think First.
B.B.[/QUOTE]
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[quote=cancontrib]aking gandang pnp kaibigang told me straight out "if you have to kill someone, lose the gun and call me imnediately, no problem. if it has anything to do with drugs don"t call me because then i can't help you and don't even know you."
i really hope i never have to shoot someone in self-defence and sure as shit i have zero interest in drugs here. one would have to be a total idiot. don't even think about it. even big money might not be enough. you;d be better off being taken away on kiddie-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] charges and you already know that's a very bad thing. drug suspects seem to wind up dead "trying to escape" more likely than in court, about on par with violent insurgents. when it's a drug issue, even buying senators is probably not enough, even if you had the connections and opportunity, so don't even go there. just don"t !!![/quote]
hmm, my buddy was caught with drugs at a local airport. bribed his way out, no problem. we all got together one night with his attorney. we talked about the various cases he worked on, many with foreigners. he has 100% success rate with his cases. many were drug cases. never lost a criminal case. even with the couple that went to trial, you just have to bribe the arresting officer. i really don't want to get into a debate on this (like the never ending condom/no condom thing), except to say that you are getting your information from some dubious sources.
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Drugggggggggs
I guess the point is missed here,why do it?When I said do it at home, I was saying if I am that stupid to do it at all I would rather spend my time in a cell stateside than in a foreign prison any day.Personal experence with drug use should not be talked about here,do what you want but why tell the world you do that shit????
Think more,play safe.
B.B...
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Senator Don
"I’m sure he taught her a few other things that evening besides how to use an elevator…"
The Senator does have that elevator thing under control, although on one of our trips to Buenos Aires he did get stuck on an escalator for 3 hours during a blackout.
Looking forward to a full trip report from the Senator when he gets back.
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Manila trip
Always nice to meet old friends, especially veterans of the On The Go and Junior wars, like Prov and Guinness. Grizzled vets all. Horny motherfuckers.
Even the recently-married Slick1 is showing up on this board......proof that his monger genes will surface. No need to debate whether its genetics or surroundings that drives Slick.
Usually my MO in Manila is to hole up in a five star hotel which has all the amenities and bang everything I can. Barfine after barfine. Its a shallow approach and typically sex touristy, but again........genetics.
In what may be the biggest news out of the Phillipines in years, Guinness reportedly deflowered a virgin on Burgos St. The mere existence of a virgin on Burgos is like spotting a coyote strolling down Fifth avenue in Manhattan, I mean what are the chances. But Guinness defrocked this girl and Prov said that 'there was blood everywhere' after the deed was done. Prov also stated that the girls' period commenced the day after Guinness ravaged this sweet young thing, but I'd rather take the high road on this and give the nod to Guinness.
One difference, next trip however, I think that for a change I'd like to start in Cebu. Guinness expressed an interest in this also because it would put us near the beaches and snorkelling in the southern Philippines. It'll make a nice change. Bag a few girls in Cebu and take them to a resort where we can swim and dive; couple of days later, bring them back and exchange them.
I hate to say 'I told you so' but I did warn this board about Surfer. Sure enough, he's here. Lecturing everyone and criticizing sex tourists right from his first posts. 'Respect for the girls' blah blah. Like we need to be told this.
My gut tells me that a poll is in the near future.
Don
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You are STILL Obsessing on Me Don? Grow Up
let's us NOT subject the Philippine board to the same BS you tried on the Colombia board (where you got ripped a new one by ALL the established posters when you started a flame war against me, because I called you on using racial stereotypes and slurs). I doubt anybody here cares, but anybody who does can search Don's posts in the Colombia folder and see for himself what transpired.
So stick to discussing Filipinas, OK? Resume the flame war and you will get burned again. That applies to your alter ego Prov too. As for "your [sizeable] gut", put up a poll Don. Or better yet, email Jackson and ask HIM to expel me and see what response you get. Come on Don, I dare you.
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[blue]Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson[/blue]
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Get Real
While I do not have definitive proof that you and Don are one and the same, to argue that the pattern of your posts is mere "conicidence"is pretty incredible. I also find your use of the term "us" quite illustrative. The Prov handle chimed in once in the Colombia thread, then was smart enough to disappear (unlike Don's handle which persisted). Clicking "show all posts by DashingDon" will reveal the excganges in a few different Colombias threads (although he only went to Cartagena and Medellin, he tried to flame me in other city folders too).
I had never mentioned you or Don in Philippines folder. In fact, I avoid cluesless kooks like you and we will never go the same places as I am SO beyond "staying in 5 star hotels in Manila and banging as many as possible". When I return soon after a long hiatus, I will go to parts of the PI where kooks like you fear to tread (just like in Colombia, where Don only went to the two most kook friendly places). You guys stick to Manila and Angeles and leave the rest of the PI to the real men.
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Surfer, Campaigning for Votes?
[QUOTE=Surfer] You guys stick to Manila and Angeles and leave the rest of the PI to the real men.[/QUOTE]
This one's bound to get you lot's of votes for the next poll :)
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Ride that wave Surfer
Anyone who has visited the PI knows how small the taxis are. Between jeepneys, trikes and taxis, transportation is stretched to the limit.
So I just loved the visual of Surfer trying to jam his 9' surfboard into a Manila taxi.........and then refusing to pay anything extra.
So much for showing sensitivity to the locals.
Of course the police showed up, just as surely as the authorities on ISG will have to intervene at some point. Naturally, Solicitor Surfer will have a ten page response detailing his position.
Excuse me while I have a giggle :)
I'd like to move on to other news, but Surfer's onslaught is dominating everything here.
He says he's not a sex tourist--he's beyond that. But what DOES he do? I do know he runs with the type of crowd that my mother warned me about; On The Go and his new IDs, Chivas and Total Package.
Like many posters here, I'm hoping that Surfer suffers an accident while he's on that board.
Some possible scenarios:
A normally docile dolphin senses Surfer's latent hostility and 'flippers' him with his tail or
Surfer arrogantly asks the local head of the village to help him carry his surf board and the chief has Surfer boiled in oil or
Surfer tries to get a bargirl to engage in sex on the surfboard and at an opportune moment, she rams a coconut up his ass, and ends his surfing career.
Wishful thinking, I know. But dreams do come true.
Don
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Last Post Before Jackson Should Delete All This Garbage
Anyone who has visited the PI knows how small the taxis are. Between jeepneys, trikes and taxis, transportation is stretched to the limit.
So I just loved the visual of Surfer trying to jam his 9' surfboard into a Manila taxi.........and then refusing to pay anything extra.
I ride a shortboard (6'10), the taxi was an FX "Tamaraw", and I offered the meter (which is the legal fare).
I'd like to move on to other news, but Surfer's onslaught is dominating everything here.
I never mentioned you. Looking now at this whole Philippine section of the ISG, what a joke. You apprently have "permanent immunity", so you don't care if nobody (except Prov01) wants to read all about your post adolescent jihaad against various enemies, real or perceived.
This PI section is a paradigm of how somed boards descend into anarchy. I shall retreat to the private boards where the signal to noise ratio is so much higher. I shall take my pictures with me.
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[quote=bill buxton].personal experence with drug use should not be talked about here,do what you want but why tell the world you do that shit????
b.b...[/quote]
what nonsense is this. since when should drugs not be talked about here. i post my trip reports as they happen. girls, drugs, hotels, stories, whatever. the only off limits subject in this forum is ****. everything else is fine as long as it is related to banging girls in the philippines. what we shouldn't be doing here is debating drug use. i am not promoting drugs, just mentioning them when it is relevent to the report, and i am certainly not going to edit my reports due to some members drug phobia. if you have some hangup with drugs, then just don't read my reports. i am sure most of the members don't like drugs either, but there also many who smoke weed, take viagra, or are curious about experimenting with ecstacy. freel free to respond, but i will not as i don't want to upset members with off topic drug use debates.
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Exhibit "A"
[QUOTE=Surfer] In fact, I avoid cluesless kooks like you and we will never go the same places as I am SO beyond "staying in 5 star hotels in Manila and banging as many as possible". [/QUOTE]
Hey Surfer, Those photo's appear to have the furnishings and decor of a 5 star hotel. SHAME ON YOU ! Have you no dignity ??
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Sofitel Philippine Plaza
[QUOTE=Prov1]Hey Surfer, Those photo's appear to have the furnishings and decor of a 5 star hotel. SHAME ON YOU ! Have you no dignity ??[/QUOTE]
Those rooms are obviously from the former Westin now Sofitel Philippine Plaza.The folk Arts Theater is visibile from the background.Not taking sides here,just identifying the 5 star hotel concerned
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Surfer and 5 star hotels
Can we trust ANYTHING Surfer says? Apparently not.
He says he's 'so way beyond five star hotels' and then he provides pictures of his five star hotel room. What a schmuck! Eagle-eyed Prov spotted the subterfuge and raises the alarm. CL confirms the scam.
Are there no depths to which Surfer will not sink.
Surfer says he's leaving us but, given his total lack of credibility, I'm not breaking out the champagne yet. I am however keeping a bottle handy because I know that someone in the PI is going to take exception to Surfer and settle things without going to court.
Don
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[QUOTE=LoveAsian*****s]Hmm, my buddy was caught with drugs at a local airport. Bribed his way out, no problem. We all got together one night with his attorney. We talked about the various cases he worked on, many with foreigners. He has 100% success rate with his cases. Many were drug cases. Never lost a criminal case. Even with the couple that went to trial, you just have to bribe the arresting officer. I really don't want to get into a debate on this (like the never ending condom/no condom thing), except to say that you are getting your information from some dubious sources.[/QUOTE]
Maybe some people were lucky enough to have been caught in a bribable situation. Don't count on that working everywhere all the time, just like there are corrupt officials, there are also zealots. Just like sometimes it's easy to "pay" one's way on the spot for a traffic violation, and sometimes you just *know* it's better to let them write the ticket. Your Mileage Will Vary. Careful not to try to bribe the wrong person at the wrong time in the wrong place.
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Something different
First off, there may be some drug references in this next report. Not trying to antagonize anyone, just letting everyone know so that if they are offended by drugs, they can just skip reading the report.
So, my buddy scored me some Thai, and I decided to take him out to celebrate. We're about the same age with the same addiction to girls and smoke, except that I live in Makati and he lives in Alabang. He doesn't go to the Alabang bars as much as I go to EDSA and Burgos, but he's been to most bars in his area at least once, and I have never been to a single one, so he is the expert on this field trip (makes a nice change).
First stop was the Cowboy Grill. He was meeting a blind date, and she was bringing her friend for me. Not something either of us typically do, but the circumstances were set for it to happen and we were starting early, so there was nothing to lose except a round of cheap drinks. The Cowboy Grill is supposedly THE place in the area to pick up working girls and regular girls LATE, but we were there early. Anyway, his girl was OK, and mine was butt ugly, so after some lame excuse, we got the hell out of there.
The main drag in the area is Alabang Zapote Road. I don't know the local name (if there is one), but thats what my nav. showed it as. It runs from Alabang through Las Pinas and is dotted with about 25 or so Kareoke bars. If you are coming from Makati, just take EDSA and exit at Filinvest. Down Filinvest, Left on Commerce, and Right on Alabang Zapote (you would turn left to go into the main entrance for Ayala Alabang subdivision, right to go down Alaban Zapote). So you can just tell a taxi driver to take you to Ayala Alabang, and then just have him go right instead of left at the main entrance. Also, if coming from Makati, make sure you take the SKYWAY. Most cabs will want to take the regular 85 peso toll road, but for an extra 30 pesos, you can avoid traffic about half of the way. If you go late, you can be there in 25 minutes.
Unfortunately, there is no solution to the universal mystery about Kareoke bars - which bars really are Kareoke bars, which are lady houses (take out bars) and which ones are somewhere in between. To make matters worse, bars continuously change, and it can depend on you, the girl, and the mamasan. So we lit one up in the car, and started at one he had never been to before, Don't Tell Mama bar.
OK, so this place was weird. You walk in and there about 15 girls off to the side, there was a hokey stage, and bunch of cheap plastic tables and chairs. Occasionally, a girl with a ok voice would go up and sing a lame Kareoke song. Now, why would anyone want to come to a place like this? First, gogo bars are not accepted in this area, but there are a lot of well to do foreigners that live here and need to get some action, and Kareoke bars are the only establishments that can get a license. The clientelle is mostly Asian, with the occasional foreigner. The girls were similar in quality to what you would get in Makati, but did appear to be smiling a lot more and generally happier with their job. We asked if there was a barfine, and were told 2,500. We each picked out a girl, although mine appeared to be upset that I had picked here (I assume she only likes Asians, but it could be any reason) and says something to the mamasan. After the girls sit down, the mama comes up to us and says that the girls are not available for bar fine tonight. I think it was because the girls have much more of an option here to reject non jap/koreans/chinese, and they see so few westerners, that they let the mamasan know before hand if they are OK with a barfine. Anyway, because I have so much experiance with Jap only girls from EDSA (particularly the Cotton Club), and I often get them to change their mind, I had no problem with this. In fact, I actually like being able to get a chance to talk to one for the challange. One of my favorite types of girl is someone that has never had a westerner before. The look on their face when see (or just feel) the size of my dick, well, lets just say that it's a Kodak moment. Not that I am large, but compared to a Jap, I am Godzilla (no offence to Japanese intended).
So my girl is basically blowing me off. We talk about going to the VIP room, but I am told in nice way, no way. But this cute little jap only thing is really turning me on. So I keep at, trying to let her know that I am a nice guy (yeah right). My friend than tells me that I am wasting my time, that she is not worth it. He can take me to several bars where the girls will be all over me. But I say that I am not interested, I like this one, she is so nice. Now, Filipinas have pretty much the same buttons that you need to push. If you can convince them that you really like them, and always act the gentleman, they will often begin to like you, even if they give you the cold shoulder at first. Either it was that, or she wanted to prove to my friend that she was "worth it", but she immediately changed. Smiling, talking to me, and even saying that she was ok with the VIP, if we all went there together. Within another 10 minutes, she was OK with just me and her. At this point, I was pretty much set with hanging with the girl and seeing where we end up. I am about 60/40 with these types of girls on the first night, moving up to maybe 80/20 on the second "date" if I don't score on the first. I like the challange, but my friend, who was the guide this night, felt that I should forget it. And since I did want to see some more bars, we left. But the girl asked for my number before we left, and I have a text from her.
Off to Bora Bora bar, another bar he hadn't been to before. Since being with someone else is a good opportunity to check out new places, we weren't quite ready to go the "sure thing" bars yet.
Bora Bora was interesting. A real cozy atmosphere inside with lots of couches and REALLY CUTE girls. Some of the nicest girls I had seen anywhere. My buddy immediately asks the mamasan if there was a barfine, and she said "oh no". He then says lets bail. Again, I wanted to stay around and see if I could get a get to know a cute one and arrange something, but he said "too much work", so we were out of there.
Next stop was one of the sure thing bars, aptly called Safety Zone bar. Small bar with about 3 couches, 10 or so girls, and the requisite KTV for apparently legal reasons. The barfine here was 3,000, but it includes the girls fee, so no tip needed. In fact, this would be considered a lady house (or boarding house) in Makati. Again the quality of girls was in the 7 to 8.5 range, but the personality of the girls out here did seam nicer in general to EDSA and Burgos girls. I found a cute one - tight little body, nice personality - and I was good to go. So we headed back to Cowboy Grill where he was meeting the same girl from earlier (long story, and not particularly intersting). I really like the way my girl treated me the whole night. From always poring the drinks, cleaning utensils, feeding me my pizza so I wouldn't get my hands dirty, and quickly reaching for her lighter (she doesn't smoke) when I go for a cigarette. Try getting that service from a EDSA girl!
So later we head to the local short time hotel in the area, Eurotell, also on Alabang Zapote. We put them in a room together, while we go and light one up in the other room. We then all hang out for while, and then we split to our separate rooms for some fun. All in all, a great night and a great girl. I even gave her 1,000 P tip, and she appeared surprised, but I am so used to tipping the girl that I felt uncomfortable in not doing so. I would like to have seen some of the other bars my friend told me about, but once you have found the right girl, why bother. There is always next time.
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SM Clubs
Hi all
Does any one have any information on SM clubs in Manila?
thanks in advance
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[QUOTE=All About Bob]Hi all
Does any one have any information on SM clubs in Manila?
thanks in advance[/QUOTE]
None that I know off aside from specialty escorts
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Huh?
Great post LoveAsWh
I have no idea about where you were, but would love to check it out. Knowing a little Japanese always helps break the ice with those TYPES.
Have fun.
X
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[QUOTE=LoveAsian*****s]
The main drag in the area is Alabang Zapote Road. I don't know the local name (if there is one), but thats what my nav. showed it as. It runs from Alabang through Las Pinas and is dotted with about 25 or so Kareoke bars. If you are coming from Makati, just take EDSA and exit at Filinvest. Down Filinvest, Left on Commerce, and Right on Alabang Zapote (you would turn left to go into the main entrance for Ayala Alabang subdivision, right to go down Alaban Zapote). So you can just tell a taxi driver to take you to Ayala Alabang, and then just have him go right instead of left at the main entrance. Also, if coming from Makati, make sure you take the SKYWAY. Most cabs will want to take the regular 85 peso toll road, but for an extra 30 pesos, you can avoid traffic about half of the way. If you go late, you can be there in 25 minutes.
Unfortunately, there is no solution to the universal mystery about Kareoke bars - which bars really are Kareoke bars, which are lady houses (take out bars) and which ones are somewhere in between. To make matters worse, bars continuously change, and it can depend on you, the girl, and the mamasan. So we lit one up in the car, and started at one he had never been to before, Don't Tell Mama bar.
OK, so this place was weird. You walk in and there about 15 girls off to the side, there was a hokey stage, and bunch of cheap plastic tables and chairs. Occasionally, a girl with a ok voice would go up and sing a lame Kareoke song. Now, why would anyone want to come to a place like this? ....[/QUOTE]
I live around here and we call it the "Zapote - Alabang road (highway)". Who am I to disagree with the official road signs, which you will see if you take the coastal hwy, through the tollgate and once in Cavite hang a hard left into LasPinas under the Zapote overpass.
As for "takeout" in Las Pinas, I have never to this point done so and my best guess is that unless you have way too much money to burn then neither will "you" (whoever reads this). Certainly not impossible, but just not worth the bother and expense, at least in the vidoke bars. Maybe there are alternatives but if there are they're a lot easier to find everywhere else than Las Pinas, and Alabang is a step up in cost-expectations. All that's not just my opinion; what I don't experience I trust my male "relatives" to tell me and so far our info jives.
Maybe we're all clueless, and if so maybe someone will post some worthwhile reasonable-cost bar "take-out" experiences in Las Pinas and Alabang. To me Las PInas is a place I go to meet up with my wife's male relatives and then we go somewhere ELSE for some fun. Yeah there are lots of cute girls in Las Pinas, but I've never ever taken one out (from some "establishment"). I have however seen my relatives drop 10,000 pesos for us to drink beer and sing in Las Pinas, and then next time we go one of many places elsewhere, spend a lot less and we all get laid. Sing in Las Pinas if that's one's desire. Get laid for a LOT less everywhere else.
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Quiapo strip clubs as a daytime diversion
Anybody else try the Quiapo strip clubs for cheap entertainment during the day?
These are places along C.M. Recto Ave. and vicinity between Rizal Ave. and Quezon Ave. Kind of a grotty part of town, but not too hard to reach from Ermita if you take the Taft LRT to the D. Jose station.
If memory serves, admission is P50 or so, you get patted down and they won't let you take much in with you at all (you have to leave any valuables with security), and you have to get two beers at around P40 each. Very cheap on customer drinks.
Best of all is that the stage operates a lot like a U.S. strip club, in that you have one of 2 dancers for 2 or 3-song sets and they usually get nude by the end of it.
Biggest downside, especially for an obvious foreigner, is deflecting the buy-me-drink bit. A favorite trick is for the girl to run nude off the stage and plop into your lap. In no time flat there's a guy with a P220 or so drink ticket for you to sign, so you have to be polite but firm. In the better places they eventually get the message and leave you alone if you just want to watch. But there's an unwritten rule that you can't have a seat in a table next to the stage if not buying lady drinks.
Seems the best niche for these places is as entertainment on a slow afternoon, as they're open and usually (the times I've been) have had a few customers.
Some places also have P4P arrangements, sometimes on-premise, but I've never been quoted anything sounding reasonable. Usually P1,500 to the bar and girl wants 2,000-2,500. Some places do a "VIP room" that's more dubious.
My favorite places include the Harem on C.M. Recto and a large-size place whose name starts with a P (Pandemonium?) on Quezon Ave. on the west side, just south of the Recto intersection.
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What is the pricing for the L.A. Cafe girls now?
Am soon to be off on the biannual trip and just wanted to see what the proper costs for L.A. Cafe are. I'm not a hopeless cheap Charlie but certainly can't pay the Makati prices, and the EDSA ones would need to have me really smitten at that level.
For L.A. Cafe last time I was generally giving P1,000 ST and up to P1,500 for LT if it was my idea (less if the girl mostly just wanted a place to sleep). Got a really good 4-day keeper that I paid at P1,200 per LT, plus any meals and small extras (didn't complain about eating at McDonald's as long as she could get some of their McRice).
Usually I'll be on multi-country 2-monthers and in better shape on time than money, so I have to be a bit more value-conscious than back when I'd have the frenzied 2-week holidays and have to seize-the-day with those.
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Great Post LUVASIANWHORES
Very entertaining read. IMHO, the farther you get from Manila the better. Girls are nicer, costs are lower, people are more honest. Metro Manila is the WORST part of the PI for SO many things, including finding GFE. I am now preparing for my return trip and have joined a dating site where I get a good number of emails. But ANYBODY from Metro Manila, including Alabang, Paranaque, Las Pinas, Bulacan, Tagaytay etc is immediately eliminated (I won't even respond to the cute ones from MM who write me). More richer foreigners=suplada babae! Even remote areas of Northern Luzon are inferior to the REALLY fertile hunting grounds in Visayas and Mindanao.
Never saw Thai stick in the PI (or ANYWHERE since the 80s!). In fact, only good smoke I EVER found in PI was hash in Sagada (VERY easy to find up there, and it is the most interesting area of all Luzon). Ditto for weed quality in Thailand and Cambodia. Brasil & Colombia too ): Once you've tried California or BC grown smoke, the rest is subpar.
CanContrib certainly has his finger on the CURRENT PI pulse MUCH more than I, but in the 90s getting caught with ganja cost no more than 1,000 Piso (INCLUDING at the airport leaving on domestic flights). I would never touch Shabu, but I sure saw lots of people using it fairly openly with scant concern about problems with the PNP.
With enough Piso, you can buy your way out of just about anything in the PI (look at Romeo Jalosjos or Robin Padilla!). MAYBE Gloria's "morals" campaign, hypocritical as it is, has changed things (but I doubt it).
Don: GET OVER YOUR OBSESSION WITH ME. You seem to have gotten over your wife leaving you last year, so there is no reason you cannot get over me calling you a biggot soon after that (when you posted something racist in the Colombia folder). I DO note that after my last post with pictures you FINALLY posted your own pictures FOR THE FIRST TIME. Nice girl, although the quality of photography was soso.
Re my pics from the Westin, my issue was never you staying in 5 star hotels (only stayed there because I got a REALLY cheap rate from Asiatravel.com).
My issue was a 60 YO man acting like a 16YO and trying to brag about "banging several per day" or some such nonsense. Maybe, with Viagra, you can do three girls a day, but the fact you try and brag about the number merely reveleals your inexperience as a monger (and immaturity). Any EXPERIENCED monger knows that quality, not quantity, is the thing to be proud of.
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[QUOTE=ploughman]Am soon to be off on the biannual trip and just wanted to see what the proper costs for L.A. Cafe are. I'm not a hopeless cheap Charlie but certainly can't pay the Makati prices, and the EDSA ones would need to have me really smitten at that level.
For L.A. Cafe last time I was generally giving P1,000 ST and up to P1,500 for LT if it was my idea (less if the girl mostly just wanted a place to sleep).[/QUOTE]
My personal recent (last 6 months) LA (and Ermita in general) experiences vary from "libre" (free, but someone does have to provide a room!) to 500 to 1000 (plus room). Yeah, someone you don't know might even ask for more especially of anyone they suspect might be really green. To me 1000 seems max high price for LA and I've never agreed to more, though sometimes I might give more after-the-fact.
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More proper Quiapo report
OK, I found my notes, so I can do a more proper Quiapo report.
For something different to do in Manila during the afternoon, do what some of the locals do and check out a Quiapo strip club or two. This is the grotty old core downtown area, recently revitalized quite a bit thanks to Mayor Lito and the train stations. The main stretch is along CM Recto Ave. between Rizal Avenue (the pedestrianized mall) and Quezon Ave, to the east, and including some side streets. During the day this is a busy part of town, frequented by locals and with lots of street vendors (many specializing in fake diplomas).
Along Recto there are a number of "KTV" places with pictures of girls at the entrances. They range from pretty decent places to roach-infested dumps. One of my favorites is the Harem on the south side of Recto just east of the Rizal Ave. intersection. As with all the places, you get a pat down and have to leave anything with the guard that either looks like a camera (they're very concerned about cellphone cameras) or could be used as a weapon.
Usually there's a cover charge of P35-50 and a 2 drink minimum, with both drinks brought out (San Miguel or Beer Na Beer regular bottles) and costing only P35-40 or so each. So you'll be in for P130-150.
The show is reminiscent of U.S. strip clubs in the early 70s, with 1-3 girls on stage at a time dancing 2-3 songs and usually going nude on the last song, while a DJ milks applause. They're actually performing rather than just standing and wiggling like in Angeles or much of Thailand.
The place works OK as an ogling den with a lot more "showing" than in most of the country, and for a cheap price. Girls' looks range from about a 6 to a 9 or so. You'll see locals there in the afternoon, with crowds picking up toward the night.
The catch? There had to be one. You'll have to keep saying no to lady drinks, especially at first and especially if you're a foreigner. They will try to bring over dancers or (a favorite trick), the girl who just danced nude on the stage will go over to you and give you a sort of lap dance. It'll take about 5 seconds for a waiter to appear with a popped beer for the girl and a ticket for you to sign. You have to be polite but firm upfront that you don't want to do that (don't worry, they're used to re-capping the beer botts).
If you do want the girl's company the drink will run P220-260, which isn't too bad. Most places also have an informal rule that you can't sit right by the stage if you're not buying lady drinks, but usually you can see fine even if not by the stage.
Most places also have an on-premises short-time option, though it seemed a little rich for me at P1,500-2,500 total, so I didn't do any in-depth research. You definitely have to bargain, and it's very important not to assume anything that you don't spell out. The girls are generally not used to going with foreigners.
Another place I generally like is the Phenomenal, which is along the west side of Quezon Blvd. just south of the Recto intersection. Lots of space and a good setup, and usually they'll get the message if you just want to watch the show...eventually. But there's another place across Quezon Blvd., the former Phenomenal 2, that got new management and has really gone downhill. Other places are really hit and miss.
It's easy to get to the area from Ermita, as the Taft LRT-1 goes up to Doroteo Jose station, which is just north of Recto Ave. The LRT-3 terminus (going out to Q.C.) is also there.
Overall I think the better places might have a useful niche as affordable ogling dens, doing what the locals do. More possibilities exist beyond that and many plces stay open until the wee hours of the morning and do most business at night, but if I'm there, I'm there in the afternoons. Also take note that the LRTs stop running around 8:30. Taxis are pretty impossible to get around rush hour, but start becoming available again later into the night.
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]
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Q: Mongering Options near Shangri-la EDSA / Mandalyuong?
I am considering a change of scenery from the usual Makati scene (a thread in which I have made several reports). One option is the Shangri-la EDSA / Mandalyuong, 1 Garden Way, Ortigas Ctr. I don't know Manila outside of Makati City.
Is it close to EDSA Complex, LA, or other mongering options?
Any mongering in walking distance?
Is the area generally pleasant, have restaurants, etc?
If people prefer to PM their responses, I will summarize - and of course report once I've been there.
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[QUOTE=Steve Naive]I am considering a change of scenery from the usual Makati scene (a thread in which I have made several reports). One option is the Shangri-la EDSA / Mandalyuong, 1 Garden Way, Ortigas Ctr. I don't know Manila outside of Makati City.
Is it close to EDSA Complex, LA, or other mongering options?
Any mongering in walking distance?
Is the area generally pleasant, have restaurants, etc?
If people prefer to PM their responses, I will summarize - and of course report once I've been there.[/QUOTE]
The hotel is located next door to one of the nicer malls in the Manila area. The mall also has its own MRT (train) station, which maks it very convenient for transportation. It's not the money you save, but the time not wasted stuck in trafic if you take a cab. If you stay there, you would take the Buendia stop for Burgos, or the EDSA/Passay stop for the complex. Refer to this map: [url]http://www.urbanrail.net/as/mani/manila.htm[/url] . The Shangri-La EDSA mall is the Shaw stop.
I do not know of any mongering in the area however.
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Surfer can't stop flaming.
A friend alerted me to Surfer's latest posts. Vintage Surfer. He boasts of being able to get his NYPD friend assist a monger with travel plans and in his next post, Solicitor Surfer relates his experiences with drugs!
Then he calls me a 'biggot'.
Yo Surfer! Turn of the 'spiggot', will ya? Or better yet, go back to the Colombia board where you belong.
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Try Quezon City Steve
Mandaluyong is just North of Makati (the huge sign with the Eagle on EDSA announces the change of municipality or you'd never notice)and ShangriLa is always overpriced. My suggestion is stay in a cheaper Hotel, then use your savings to get top quality girls at Pegasus or Miss Saigon. Without breaking the bank (stars get 10,000 Piso & up), QC has TONS of small GRO type bars where the clueless sex tourists never tread, and lots of cool places to meet nonpros (ugly guys with no game should stick to their 5 star hotels LOL) like Padi's Point.
PBurgos, LA Cafe, and maybe the EDSA Complex are about the extent of how adventurous "the Senator" and his clique ever get. By AVOIDING the clueless hordes, you will get more GFE action at lower prices too. Most the customers in QC are Asian, so if you LIKE hanging with Americans & Euros you may not feel that comfortable up thyere (though I never felt in danger at all).
Better yet, GET OUT OF MANILA!
PS GREAT report Ploughman. Nice to see a few guys in here that have the balls to explore a little bit.
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Surfer and the New York Police Department
I did warn everyone about the arrival of this idiot, Surfer. A mix of a little info and lots of lecturing is his MO. There's always 'good guys' and 'bad guys', with Surfer being a 'good guy', of course. After a short while, it will be easy to discern a pattern to his posts.
When Surfer arrives on his surfboard, things don't get better; they get worse.
But what I'm really interested in is the identity of the NYPD captain that Surfer says is a buddy of his and can swing vacation time for other officers to go on pussy trips to the PI. As a tax-paying resident of NYC, I and other citizens in good standing are very interested in this. I'd like this 'surf buddy' to be unmasked and brought to justice. It don't matter whether he's a patrolman or a captain: the law applies equally.
Does this captain run a precinct. Has one of NYC's police precincts been corrupted?
So Surfer, what precinct is he in? I can drop by at a moment's notice with a New York Post reporter and get to the bottom of this thing.
Don
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[QUOTE=Steve Naive]I am considering a change of scenery from the usual Makati scene (a thread in which I have made several reports). One option is the Shangri-la EDSA / Mandalyuong, 1 Garden Way, Ortigas Ctr. I don't know Manila outside of Makati City.
Is it close to EDSA Complex, LA, or other mongering options?
Any mongering in walking distance?
Is the area generally pleasant, have restaurants, etc?[/QUOTE]Mandaluyong is just North of Makati but actually further from EDSA Complex (Pasay) and LA Cafe (Malate). You are closer to QC including Cubao area. Mandaluyong is a good area with malls, restaurants and bars inlcuding small GRO bars and Casas but better option is QC such as Tomas Morato, Araneta and Eastwood City areas.
[QUOTE=Surfer]Mandaluyong is just North of Makati (the huge sign with the Eagle on EDSA announces the change of municipality or you'd never notice)and ShangriLa is always overpriced. My suggestion is stay in a cheaper Hotel, then use your savings to get top quality girls at Pegasus or Miss Saigon. Without breaking the bank (stars get 10,000 Piso & up), QC has TONS of small GRO type bars where the clueless sex tourists never tread, and lots of cool places to meet nonpros.[/QUOTE]I agree with Surfer that there are tons of other good areas in the PI with QC being one of the top cities unknown by most visitors. QC however can get very expensive especially since this is where the local celebrities hangout. In general, you should be fine in QC
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[QUOTE=Steve Naive]I am considering a change of scenery from the usual Makati scene (a thread in which I have made several reports). One option is the Shangri-la EDSA / Mandalyuong, 1 Garden Way, Ortigas Ctr. I don't know Manila outside of Makati City. [/QUOTE]Sorry but accidently submitted the previous report before completion.
As I stated, QC is a great area but if you don't know the area, language or have a tour guide, it can be very intimidating and possibly not the safest place to go for newbies. It is also very expensive especially if you are a foreigner and don't like to negotiate. For the adventurous, I suggest visiting 3 areas during the day and see what the areas are like (Tomas Morato, Araneta and Eastwood City). You will find that QC has the hottest girls in the PI since this is where the rich hangout including local Pinoys which may pose problems for foreigners. The locals are generally very friendly but are not happy when foreigners invade their hangout/area (usually the hot spots at night).
I haven't posted alot on this site but I am very experienced when it comes to the PI. Background on myself: I am currently living in Michigan but was born in Manila and speak Tagalog fluently. I know the Metro Manila area very well and visit 2x a year to see family and friends as well as look into my investment properties. Steve, I will be in the PI from 6/22 to 7/09 so if you need some additional info, PM me. I will be leaving this Wednesday (6/21/06) at 3:45 pm EST. Hope this helps and you have a ton of fun in the PI!
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[blue]Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson[/blue]
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[blue]Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson[/blue]
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Surfer Bucking For His Own Thread
[QUOTE=Surfer]
PBurgos, LA Cafe, and maybe the EDSA Complex are about the extent of how adventurous "the Senator" and his clique ever get. By AVOIDING the clueless hordes, you will get more GFE action at lower prices too.
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I've spent plenty of time inside and outside Manila but I don't consider anybody "clueless" for going to P. Burgos, La Cafe or EDSA. Perhaps Surfer needs to work on his manners. First he bad mouths anybody who's ever stayed at a 5 star hotel and now this? Surfer, if your name is on the next poll I predict you will win by a landslide.
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[QUOTE=snipped from Surfer]
PBurgos, LA Cafe, and maybe the EDSA Complex are about the extent of how adventurous "the Senator" and his clique ever get. By AVOIDING the clueless hordes, you will get more GFE action at lower prices too.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Prov1]I've spent plenty of time inside and outside Manila but I don't consider anybody "clueless" for going to P. Burgos, La Cafe or EDSA. Perhaps Surfer needs to work on his manners. First he bad mouths anybody who's ever stayed at a 5 star hotel and now this? Surfer, if your name is on the next poll I predict you will win by a landslide.[/QUOTE]
Presuming accuracy of the original quote, Surfer never called anyone "clueless", only suggested that (what he really did write, as quoted) generally yields better quality at dramatically lower cost, and he's certainly correct about that.
That's not to suggest that for some the high-cost-fast-action-ultra-tourist-venues aren't a good choice. Here now, money to burn, gone in a few hours, sure thing, no mess no fuss, like buying expensive cola from a pop machine, and the can it comes in might be as advertised, maybe. Beyond that, please pay attention to what he's trying to tell you instead of taking exception to the way you improperly rearrange his words, no offense to you intended, I know how easy it is to take things out-of-context when trying to read & post too fast. Perhaps "clueless" might have been more politically-correctly elaborated as "without time for great experiences" as I suspect was likely his intention based on what I read.
On, topic, I've personally "known" more than a few girls who've been at LA Cafe and/or at some point worked along EDSA, and a few points in-between and elsewhere, and I have little doubt that people who know have posted good info about Burgos, but I avoid the ultra-high-price impersonal "tourist" experience. Hey, all except the hard-core are just regular girls trying to make ends meet and if they're really lucky meet someone who'll treat them right for more than a few hours or a fwe days or even a few weeks. I think that's the difference the original poster was trying to point out.
Myself, I'd like to find out about that blow-job-while-you-wait-for-your-haircut place an American told me about. I wonder if I still have his cell# - after this I'll have to look in my phone!
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Great Info Nomis, But You May Get Deluged With PMs
seeking info that is already on the board (but they prefer to send you a questyion like "hey, where should go in the PI". Very generous of you to offer to help people though, and it sounds like you have some detailed knowledge of the QC scene. Your post raises the often ignored ESSENTIAL rule of punting in the PI: NEGOTIATE. For EVERYTHING )(time, price and services).
I can speak pretty decent Taglish, which helps a bit, but I never encountered animosity from the locals in QC bars. I find Filipino men pretty darn tolerant of us pawing their women. I also generally travel alone, and I do not not get drunk or act like a loud mouth idiot, nor do I go on and on about how great America is (while insulting the Philippines). The culturally sensitive traveler from the US is almost always accepted in the PI, even in Muslim areas of Mindanao.
Cancontrib: thanks for your post too. I have found some great girls on Pburgos & EDSA. As you correctly stated, I was merely saying that there is a large number of foreigners who never get beyond the "famous" places and that there are rewards for being more adventurous. Those with a "clue" (read: more savy mongers or guys spending more than a few days in the PI) realize that. But for a short time visitor with no Taglish skills I would not hesitate to reccommend EDSA or PBurgos (although I would say Angeles is also a must see for a visiting monger, especially a poor one).
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first timer
G'day guys,
I have been sent to Manila in a rush for work. First time here, know nothing about the place. staying at the edsa shangri-la. have quickly scanned the forums re this area, but would like to ask the following. Is there now anywhere near Mandaluyon city(which is where I believe I am) such as massage parlours, bars etc, which are open of a day time (my nights are accounted for with work) that I can walk to or not takie long to get to. 2. is there any 'dial in" services available where I can ocntact a girl to come to me?
With thanks
F/mouse
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Call kathy
[color=purple]Call Kathy at 0921 733 8139, she has several ladies and she will send them to the Shangri-la mall for you to check out before you take them. Just tell her what you like she has some very nice ladies. This service is more expensive than the clubs, but that's the breaks when you don't want to go out and shop. Don't worry you'll have a good time. Post a report if you slam one of her girls.
You can see some of the girls at this site:
[url]http://maniladirect4.bravehost.com/[/url]
LOG-IN: power / PASSWORD: play
RaZZoR[/color]
[QUOTE=Fieldmouse]G'day guys,
I have been sent to Manila in a rush for work. First time here, know nothing about the place. staying at the edsa shangri-la. have quickly scanned the forums re this area, but would like to ask the following. Is there now anywhere near Mandaluyon city(which is where I believe I am) such as massage parlours, bars etc, which are open of a day time (my nights are accounted for with work) that I can walk to or not takie long to get to. 2. is there any 'dial in" services available where I can ocntact a girl to come to me?
With thanks
F/mouse[/QUOTE]
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Thanks for the contact Razzor. I don't mind clubbing etc, but time and task sees me spending most nights working, thus not much chance to window shop. will send report.
F/M
[QUOTE=Razzor][color=purple]Call Kathy at 0921 733 8139, she has several ladies and she will send them to the Shangri-la mall for you to check out before you take them. Just tell her what you like she has some very nice ladies. This service is more expensive than the clubs, but that's the breaks when you don't want to go out and shop. Don't worry you'll have a good time. Post a report if you slam one of her girls.
You can see some of the girls at this site:
[url]http://maniladirect4.bravehost.com/[/url]
LOG-IN: power / PASSWORD: play
RaZZoR[/color][/QUOTE]
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[color=purple]Fieldmouse, let us know how it goes if you bag one. I would like to see a report on the service they provide you. Enjoy.
RaZZoR[/color]
[QUOTE=Fieldmouse]Thanks for the contact Razzor. I don't mind clubbing etc, but time and task sees me spending most nights working, thus not much chance to window shop. will send report.
F/M[/QUOTE]
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Pinoys like to get laid libre too!
[QUOTE=Surfer]I can speak pretty decent Taglish, which helps a bit, but I never encountered animosity from the locals in QC bars. I find Filipino men pretty darn tolerant of us pawing their women. I also generally travel alone, and I do not not get drunk or act like a loud mouth idiot, nor do I go on and on about how great America is (while insulting the Philippines). The culturally sensitive traveler from the US is almost always accepted in the PI, even in Muslim areas of Mindanao.[/QUOTE]
Surprise, Pinoys like to get laid too! Libre is just fine with any Pinoy I've ever met. Make it happen for them and they help you make it happen for all present. Works for me. I wouldn't know about some of the opportunities had I not been introduced just that way. We're of course talking about Pinoys well-known-enough to be at least half-trustworthy.
I also very much agree that a lower modest profile works much better than any loud-mouth routine, drunk or otherwise, and yes, being dead drunk isn't all that condusive towards getting laid. Anywhere. I'm also presuming that "culturaly-insensitive" translates to a minimum of passive cultural tolerance and acceptance. A "visitor" ( or anyone) can have a great GFE almost anytime anywhere, or can instead set out to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] everyone off. Pick one. Anywhere. You (whoever reads this) decide which is more fun.
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follow up re Kathys room service
[QUOTE=Razzor][color=purple]Fieldmouse, let us know how it goes if you bag one. I would like to see a report on the service they provide you. Enjoy.
RaZZoR[/color][/QUOTE]Viewed the website as provided by razzor (many thanks), contacted Kathy on the number provided. bad english resulted in Kathy hanging up 3 times before finally putting a male on. discussed options as per the website, gave me choice, not availabel, gave 2nd choice...not available...and so it went. Finally agreed that one of the girls was there and could come for 1500 more than advertised price. after discussion, agreed on advertised price, girl despatched with gorilla in tow. Girl and gorilla arrive, nothing like the girl on the website. 'old photo' insist gorilla and funds dispute starts again. py 4000 as per agreed, bloke calls girl outside, pays her. next she's into me about only getting 1000 and wants more money. Don't mind saying the romance has just about worn off by then.
Anyway, no extra money, a dud root, no enthusiasm, gave half arsed bbbj but not to finish, had no condom with her and wanted me to order via hotel housekeeping.
I am certain that though the number was the same, I did not actually talk to the proper organiser, but someone acting on Kathys behalf. The set up is a bit to good to indicate that my experience is the way they normally do business. Anyone else be able to provide info on this service?
Thanks for all those who assisted.
Fieldmouse
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Ask an Employee for Room Service
[QUOTE=Fieldmouse]Viewed the website as provided by razzor (many thanks), contacted Kathy on the number provided. bad english resulted in Kathy hanging up 3 times before finally putting a male on. discussed options as per the website, gave me choice, not availabel, gave 2nd choice...not available...and so it went. Finally agreed that one of the girls was there and could come for 1500 more than advertised price. after discussion, agreed on advertised price, girl despatched with gorilla in tow. Girl and gorilla arrive, nothing like the girl on the website. 'old photo' insist gorilla and funds dispute starts again. py 4000 as per agreed, bloke calls girl outside, pays her. next she's into me about only getting 1000 and wants more money. Don't mind saying the romance has just about worn off by then.
Anyway, no extra money, a dud root, no enthusiasm, gave half arsed bbbj but not to finish, had no condom with her and wanted me to order via hotel housekeeping.
I am certain that though the number was the same, I did not actually talk to the proper organiser, but someone acting on Kathys behalf. The set up is a bit to good to indicate that my experience is the way they normally do business. Anyone else be able to provide info on this service?
Thanks for all those who assisted.
Fieldmouse[/QUOTE]
Fieldmouse, next time you want room service just walk down to the lobby and tell the doorman what you want. He will have a lady up to your room within minutes at a fraction of the cost.
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Okay guys,
This is my first post, so be gentle. I’ll start by confessing that I’ve been a lurker for a quite a while. Prior to the following events, I had never set foot outside of the US. I had always dreamed of a vacation described on these pages, but the problem was that I didn’t have the balls to travel alone so damned far away from home. On New Year’s Day 2006, I finally decided that life is too short. Soon thereafter, I got a passport, tickets, and told my boss I’d be out for two and a half weeks. With intel gathered from this board and from Filipino friends here in the States, I set out to plan and execute my first international mongering adventure. Before I hit PI for my next, yet more wisely planned adventure this fall, I have a few questions for the experts out there. Since this is my first post, I’ll include my questions in a trip report, to properly show appreciation for what I’ve learned here.
In April, I purchased my round-trip ticket through Travelocity, from New York to Manila for two weeks in June (1,450usd). To ensure that I’d have a well-rounded experience, I also purchased two round-trip tickets from Manila to Tacloban and Dumguete Cities (200 usd total. Not Travelocity, the Phil Air web-site). My itinerary was to check out Manila for a few days, then hop back and forth to Tac and Dum to meet two ladies I had met on FFF, then finish off with a bang in Manila. When I arrived in Manila 20 hours later (stop in HK), it was 11:30pm and my first reaction was exactly as you guys described: Damn, it’s HOT! I was sweating profusely before I even got into my transport.
I had made arrangements with the New World Hotel in Makati to have a driver meet me at the airport for about 40usd slapped to your hotel bill. (I later discovered that you can get a cab at the airport taxi queue for the same fifteen-minute trip for about 300p, or 5.50usd!).
I was pleased with New World. The room was a bit pricey at just over 100usd per night (Travelocity) but as it was my first time traveling abroad, and with safety being a prime concern, I accepted it as a necessary part of the learning curve. By the time I unpacked, I was so excited there was no way I could get to sleep. So I showered, changed, and returned to the streets on a reconnaissance mission. I had no real plans of getting laid that first night, I just wanted to find the Makati Starbucks to take in the scene and strike up conversation with anyone who showed interest. I figured that I’d have plenty of time to do the EDSA - P. Burgos - LA Café round after a good slumber.
My Starbucks-Forty Winks plan was derailed when a 20-something honey got into the elevator as I was going down. Instincts told me she was leaving after a session with a client. I launched the ‘dumb tourist’ routine and politely asked if she knew of a place where one could get something to eat at this hour. “I’m going to a place called LA Café, Sir. Would you like to join me, Sir? I’ll introduce you to my friends”, she replies, with all the courteousness that I’ve come to love about the Philippines. In less than five minutes we were in a cab. And in another fifteen, we were inside the infamous LA Café, where I was in a trance-like state for the next four hours. (I had made arrangements with the driver to pick me up when I was ready to leave.)
As a newbie to LA Café, I was impressed. I’d describe the atmosphere as ‘cutesy’, totally devoid of the rough, urban gangsta air I had expected - a pleasant alternative to the nonsense at some New York clubs that tire me. My new friend Jackie ushers me to a table where a few of her ‘friends’ are waiting, giggling, and so ‘very pleased to meet you, Sir.’ It’s obvious that Jackie and her girls are working me, but I don’t mind. It’s packed (2am Friday) and I’m thinking this is a perfect venue to pick someone’s pocket. Stares come from everywhere, but I’m not sure if it’s because I’m a foreigner, I’m the only brother around, or because everyone can tell I’m new. Ladies achieved scores from 6-10 on my hotness meter. I spotted several 10s simultaneously trying to get my attention, which was a first for me anywhere. One of Jackie’s friends succeeds with me because she carries herself like a native New Yorker, which helps me feel a little at home. Sheen is her name. She’d rank higher than the 8 I gave her, but she was drinking way too much, which is a turn off for me. Despite her silliness, we hit it off and later we were back in my room where she delivered a 7 performance. Although not the greatest in bed, she had great attitude and provided valuable introductory tips on LA Café. She stayed until 11am when I gave her 2,500p (please guys, it was my first time). She splits with promises to text after I get a sim, which she does constantly over the next two weeks to the point of being downright irritating.
Although I was at LA Cafe several times over the next two weeks, I found it hard to make an accurate safety assessment of the surrounding neighborhood. How safe is it to walk this area at night? Oh, upon leaving the club, hustlers work you hard. On one occasion, someone insisted that the driver and I owed parking. I ignored the demand, but the driver forked over 20p without hesitation. Did I miss something? Is it customary to pay the hustlers for parking in this area? Anyone have comments in general on dealing with the hustlers just outside of LA Cafe?
After another visit to LA Cafe, I brought someone to my room I later caught red handed stealing money hidden in my suitcase. (And I really thought I hid it well.) Needless to say, she went out on her ass. Anyone have suggestions on securing valuables? I later hired a hotel driver to tour the city.
After a boring thirty minutes of showing me the ‘Great Sites of Manila’ (at 1am) the driver asks if I’m interested in meeting women. “Of course”, I say, and off we go. We first travel along a street close to Makati that had a lot of adult establishments. I ask if we’re stopping, and he curtly responds, “No. There are too many undesirables here. It would be very unsafe for you.” (During my stay, I heard this line repeated by so many guides that I was terrified of going anywhere unescorted. With retrospection, I realize that it’s probably Lesson #1 in the Hustler’s Playbook: Keep the sucker’s wallet within reach. After returning home and reviewing this board, I’m absolutely sure that street was P. Burgos. If I see this driver the next time I’m in Manila, he’s getting a beat down.)
Our first stop was a strip joint called Athena on Roxas Blvd (in Pasay?) The driver accompanies me inside and introduces me to the proprietress as a newbie. The games resume. I politely avoid any price negotiation as I refuse to allow the driver to enjoy any kickbacks due to this obvious setup. Besides, I really want to just check out the place, chilling with a drink, and seeing where a conversation with a random honey may lead. The dancing was decent and the music surprisingly current. I had a drink with a 9 who offered to meet me at my room after her shift. I was content with learning that you can arrange to meet ladies on the DL and I summarily filed this tip. After a while, I conclude that club Athena too much resembles a tourist trap, so I pay the bill and tell the driver we’re leaving.
The next spot, Casino Royale, is not really a casino, it’s a casa (the card says Makati). About twenty ladies were available at the time I arrived (3am). I thought it a nice touch that a few called out, “Pick me Sir”, with enthusiastic smiles. It didn’t take long to pick out a 10, whose name I completely forget. We went back to my room (negotiated to 50usd) where she delivered a knockout performance. I had revisited Casino Royale and another casa during my time in Manila, picking up a total of three honeys. All three had consistently delivered better service than anyone I had picked up at LA Café. Is this the norm? Or luck of the draw?
Because I was too busy jetting to Dumaguete and Tacloban, I didn’t get an opportunity to explore Manila to the extent I had planned. I completely missed out on P. Burgos and EDSA. I’d go over my experiences in Dumaguete and Tacloban here, but I guess that’s other threads. But I will mention that I found it easier and cheaper hooking up with honeys in these cities than in the capital city. Would you guys say this is consistent with your experiences? To finish, I’ll just list some general observations about Manila:
The New World Hotel is girl friendly, even the security guards are open to sending someone to your room, for a tip, of course. However, she will be required to show photo ID before going anywhere near the elevators. They’re pretty adamant about this, as I twice witnessed poor fellows with dates who were refused entry. Although I didn’t partake, I also observed that the lobby offers a few possibilities. In the evenings, honeys seem to be hanging around the lounge areas, discreetly trying to initiate contact with any single guy who passes by.
I wandered around Makati for a few hours to see what a random walk would yield… Nothing, except for women past their prime handing out business cards offering massages, and a few dudes dressed like chicks at the Starbucks adjacent to the Shangri La Hotel.
Along Roxas Blvd, there seems to be a waterfront with a lot of festival-like activity. Is it safe for foreigners to take a stroll alone here? How likely is it to score here?
It seemed that action could be had anywhere, providing that you have the eye for identifying opportunities and your game is tight enough. Due to culture differences, it will take some time for the Western newbie to fully develop the ‘eye’.
Respect. Respect. Respect. I’ve always believed that respect and courtesy can turn around more delicate situations than we give them credit for. In the Philippines, this theory was put to the test and proven several times. In dealings with people, on any level, a display of courtesy and respect will take you a long way.
After the theft I thwarted, I got into the habit of working the question of photo ID into conversations with potential scores. If she didn’t have one, she’d be tossed back into the sea, no excuses. I find not having a photo ID very suspicious, and there are enough great scores waiting out there to make risks unnecessary.
I had my quad-band phone unlocked in one of the Malls in Makati (2,500pesos). After that, all you do is buy a sim for 150pesos and you’re ready to go. I had a hard time finding someone to unlock my particular phone in NYC, so I was surprised when the first place I visited in Makati had it done in thirty minutes.
It seemed that every honey I hooked up with had difficulty when it was time to part. Some even cried. I need to work on the art of the ‘graceful disconnect.’ Any advice?
Thanks
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]
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As for the safety of the area, all I can tell you is when the guy I went to manila with (he grew up there) and his cousins saw the area LA Cafe was in, they were horrified that I had gone there alone. I don't know if they were just being over protective or if its really that bad of an area...But most of the filipinos I talk to seem to think its pretty dangerous. However I have been wanting to ask the board's perspective on this also. How bad of an area is it? I havn't seen any posts like "I got beat down/robbed at LA Cafe" so I have to assume its alright.
However I was there a number of times and never had a problem. I even walked down the street to Amazonia (about a block) and had no problem at all, but it was full day light and I had a lady with me. I have a feeling that with all of the westerners that frequent both places, measures are kept to keep them safe. I think the last thing any filipino business owner would want is something discouraging western money from coming to his or her place.
[QUOTE=Gumby2004]
Although I was at LA Cafe several times over the next two weeks, I found it hard to make an accurate safety assessment of the surrounding neighborhood. How safe is it to walk this area at night? Oh, upon leaving the club, hustlers work you hard. On one occasion, someone insisted that the driver and I owed parking. I ignored the demand, but the driver forked over 20p without hesitation. Did I miss something? Is it customary to pay the hustlers for parking in this area? Anyone have comments in general on dealing with the hustlers just outside of LA Cafe?
After another visit to LA Cafe, I brought someone to my room I later caught red handed stealing money hidden in my suitcase. (And I really thought I hid it well.) Needless to say, she went out on her ass. Anyone have suggestions on securing valuables?[/QUOTE]
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That's a very fine bit of reporting, Gumby2004! Sorry, to hear about the attempted robbery. Casino Royale, is now on my radar lock next trip. I hope you'll also post your experience with Dumaguete and Tacloban.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Gumby2004]Okay guys,
This is my first post, so be gentle. I’ll start by confessing that I’ve been a lurker for a quite a while. Prior to the following events, I had never set foot outside of the US. I had always dreamed of a vacation described on these pages, but the problem was that I didn’t have the balls to travel alone so damned far away from home. On New Year’s Day 2006, I finally decided that life is too short. Soon thereafter, I got a passport, tickets, and told my boss I’d be out for two and a half weeks. With intel gathered from this board and from Filipino friends here in the States, I set out to plan and execute my first international mongering adventure. Before I hit PI for my next, yet more wisely planned adventure this fall, I have a few questions for the experts out there. Since this is my first post, I’ll include my questions in a trip report, to properly show appreciation for what I’ve learned here.
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue][/QUOTE]
Gumby2004:
No doubt, you deserve highest respect! To travel to the Philippines without having gathered experience from other foreign countries proves a hell of courage!
My tiny little advice would only be, simply don't make too many pre-arrangements next time (e.g. airport pick-up for 40 USD, driver who picks you up at LA Cafe etc). It is really not necessary in Manila and you can even save some money.
By the way, I will be coming to Manila/Angeles City next December and if you are also there it would be my pleasure to invite you for some ice-cold San Miguel! :)
Cheers - Hesekiels
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Nicely done!
Gumby:
A great post and very insightful. I think the only mistakes you made, and they were few, were slightly overpaying and perhaps, by accepting first offers. You can actually get a phone unlocked, for example, for about PhP300, but that's no big deal. You comported yourself well. You used common sense, and you had a good time.
I would suggest that, next time, perhaps on your way to LA Cafe, you stop at EDSA, which I actually like a lot more than Burgos because there's less hassle and the bar fines are cheaper while the quality is (to me) about the same.
You are correct in your conclusion that opportunities are abundant and fairly easy to spot, in malls, restaurants, bars, the street, internet cafes and shops. Too bad you didn't get a chance to check out the Starbucks/Cafe Havana scene in Greenbelt. You might also want to consider that for next time.
The P20 "parking fee" is fairly routine. These are basically street guys trying to direct drivers to parking places they have located. It's their way of surviving and I usually pay them. On the other hand, and as you probably noticed, booking a car for the evening is a fairly expensive way to go. Taxis are ubiquitous and you can always find one. I typically stay in Makati and, if I want to go to G Point, or LA Cafe, take a taxi and then find another to go on to the next destination. It's never been a problem.
Most hotels throughout the country offer in-room safes, and it's a good idea, either prior to going out or when the companion for the evening asks to use your bathroom, as she will inevitably do, to put everything of value in the safe.
My only other suggestion is that next time you think about visiting another large city--Davao and/or Cebu come to mind--as the scenes are much different. though you certainly will not lack for opportunities in either case.
Again, great job. Your post is a valuable object lesson on how to act and what to do both for those who are contemplating their first trip here and for those who have been here many times.
I hope you continue to contribute to these pages.
:D
GE
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[color=purple]Gumby, I'm no expert, but I have been to the PI many times. I've tried to answer a few of your questions, hope it helps you out. Others will have different ideas, this is just mine. Really sounds like you enjoyed your trip, time to start planning the next one.
RaZZoR[/color]
[QUOTE=Gumby2004]Okay guys,
This is my first post, so be gentle. I’ll start by confessing that I’ve been a lurker for a quite a while. Prior to the following events, I had never set foot outside of the US. I had always dreamed of a vacation described on these pages, but the problem was that I didn’t have the balls to travel alone so damned far away from home. On New Year’s Day 2006, I finally decided that life is too short. Soon thereafter, I got a passport, tickets, and told my boss I’d be out for two and a half weeks. With intel gathered from this board and from Filipino friends here in the States, I set out to plan and execute my first international mongering adventure. Before I hit PI for my next, yet more wisely planned adventure this fall, I have a few questions for the experts out there. Since this is my first post, I’ll include my questions in a trip report, to properly show appreciation for what I’ve learned here.
In April, I purchased my round-trip ticket through Travelocity, from New York to Manila for two weeks in June (1,450usd). To ensure that I’d have a well-rounded experience, I also purchased two round-trip tickets from Manila to Tacloban and Dumguete Cities (200 usd total. Not Travelocity, the Phil Air web-site). My itinerary was to check out Manila for a few days, then hop back and forth to Tac and Dum to meet two ladies I had met on FFF, then finish off with a bang in Manila. When I arrived in Manila 20 hours later (stop in HK), it was 11:30pm and my first reaction was exactly as you guys described: Damn, it’s HOT! I was sweating profusely before I even got into my transport.[/blue][/QUOTE]
[color=purple]-Next time you make flight arrangements check with NWA they have specials where tickets can be as cheap as $650.00 around twice a year during off season.
-The domestic tickets run about the same most of the time, but sometimes they have fair specials and they could be as low as $50.00 round trip where you are going. You can get the tickets almost anywhere, but I would recommend you get them in the mall at the official Philippine Airline office. More or less if you just wait to get them in the PI you will pay the same as you did, but you may save and you would have less trouble changing the ticket if you wanted to stay somewhere longer.[/color]
[QUOTE=Gumby2004]I had made arrangements with the New World Hotel in Makati to have a driver meet me at the airport for about 40usd slapped to your hotel bill. (I later discovered that you can get a cab at the airport taxi queue for the same fifteen-minute trip for about 300p, or 5.50usd!) .[/blue][/QUOTE]
[color=purple]-It’s best to use the official transportation at the airport unless the hotel will pick you up without jamming you like you got. I used to go upstairs to the departures and jump a taxi that just dropped someone off, this doesn’t work as well anymore because the police and security will stop them and make you get out because they are not the official taxi. Plus this is high risk doing that. When you do take a taxi and you feel the driver is fucken insane, act like your calling someone on your cell and tell them your driver’s name and what taxi you’re in and you’ll be there in a few minutes. I have taken more than 100 taxi rides in Manila, most are no problem, always remember to tell them to turn the meter on or you don’t ride. You can remind them of the php3000 fine for a defective meter or not using it. I know my way around Manila so I know if the driver is taken me the wrong way or somewhere I shouldn’t be around and this is a factor not knowing your way around. Just remember if the area looks like you shouldn’t be there ask the driver to take you to the area around the US Embassy Now. I have had a driver take me through Tondo in the day time; you wouldn’t want to be in this area at night. If a driver is taken you through a area like that he know he shouldn’t best to look for a place to bale and fine another taxi. Most Filipinas you will meet don’t really know the taxi stuff very well because they take Jeeps and buses around Manila most of the time so don’t expect great advice from a bar girl on taxi’s.[/color]
[QUOTE=Gumby2004]I was pleased with New World. The room was a bit pricey at just over 100usd per night (Travelocity) but as it was my first time traveling abroad, and with safety being a prime concern, I accepted it as a necessary part of the learning curve. By the time I unpacked, I was so excited there was no way I could get to sleep. So I showered, changed, and returned to the streets on a reconnaissance mission. I had no real plans of getting laid that first night, I just wanted to find the Makati Starbucks to take in the scene and strike up conversation with anyone who showed interest. I figured that I’d have plenty of time to do the EDSA - P. Burgos - LA Café round after a good slumber. [/blue][/QUOTE]
[color=purple]-Most of the time I stay at the Cherry Blossom next to Robinson Mall in Ermita and a 5 minute walk to the LA Café. Not the best hotel in Manila, it’s clean, large rooms, girl friendly, 1 minute walk to the mall and for less than $30.00 a night. I have stayed at the Pan Pacific in Ermita for less than $100 with on line reservation and that is top notch place to stay. There are many places in the Ermita area that are decent for less than $50 a night. For myself I find Ermita to be the best place to stay and get around.[/color]
[QUOTE=Gumby2004]My Starbucks-Forty Winks plan was derailed when a 20-something honey got into the elevator as I was going down. Instincts told me she was leaving after a session with a client. I launched the ‘dumb tourist’ routine and politely asked if she knew of a place where one could get something to eat at this hour. “I’m going to a place called LA Café, Sir. Would you like to join me, Sir? I’ll introduce you to my friends”, she replies, with all the courteousness that I’ve come to love about the Philippines. In less than five minutes we were in a cab. And in another fifteen, we were inside the infamous LA Café, where I was in a trance-like state for the next four hours. (I had made arrangements with the driver to pick me up when I was ready to leave.) [/blue][/QUOTE]
[color=purple]-No need to make arrangements with taxi drivers like that. Only if you pay them say php500 for 3 or 4 hours flat rate. Later in your report you discuss the taxi driver taking you where he wants to take you and not really where you want to go. He gets a fee when he took you to one of these places and you bar fine, but this is reflected in the price you pay. Best to tell the driver to take you to X spot and then they should go, sometimes they hang around and wait for you act like they are taking care of you. They are only trying to see if you leave and take you somewhere else they may collect a fee. This is why I like Erimta so much, I don’t have to take Taxi at night, so many bars and places to hang out I don’t get wrapped up with the taxi problems at night.[/color]
[QUOTE=Gumby2004]As a newbie to LA Café, I was impressed. I’d describe the atmosphere as ‘cutesy’, totally devoid of the rough, urban gangsta air I had expected - a pleasant alternative to the nonsense at some New York clubs that tire me. My new friend Jackie ushers me to a table where a few of her ‘friends’ are waiting, giggling, and so ‘very pleased to meet you, Sir.’ It’s obvious that Jackie and her girls are working me, but I don’t mind. It’s packed (2am Friday) and I’m thinking this is a perfect venue to pick someone’s pocket. Stares come from everywhere, but I’m not sure if it’s because I’m a foreigner, I’m the only brother around, or because everyone can tell I’m new. Ladies achieved scores from 6-10 on my hotness meter. I spotted several 10s simultaneously trying to get my attention, which was a first for me anywhere. One of Jackie’s friends succeeds with me because she carries herself like a native New Yorker, which helps me feel a little at home. Sheen is her name. She’d rank higher than the 8 I gave her, but she was drinking way too much, which is a turn off for me. Despite her silliness, we hit it off and later we were back in my room where she delivered a 7 performance. Although not the greatest in bed, she had great attitude and provided valuable introductory tips on LA Café. She stayed until 11am when I gave her 2,500p (please guys, it was my first time). She splits with promises to text after I get a sim, which she does constantly over the next two weeks to the point of being downright irritating.[/blue][/QUOTE]
[color=purple]-LA Café, been there so many times…. Sounds like your friend is what I refer to as one of the “Sharks”. When you walk in the door to your left it’s the Shark Pit, when Jackie brought you in you didn’t have a chance in the Pit, unless you picked up and walked around. Best to stay away from the ones who are in that area, they are there all the time. I know a lady who is in the Pit every time I go to the LA Café, she was the first girl I stuffed in the PI in Sep 1995 in Angeles City.[/color]
[QUOTE=Gumby2004]Although I was at LA Cafe several times over the next two weeks, I found it hard to make an accurate safety assessment of the surrounding neighborhood. How safe is it to walk this area at night? Oh, upon leaving the club, hustlers work you hard. On one occasion, someone insisted that the driver and I owed parking. I ignored the demand, but the driver forked over 20p without hesitation. Did I miss something? Is it customary to pay the hustlers for parking in this area? Anyone have comments in general on dealing with the hustlers just outside of LA Cafe? [/blue][/QUOTE]
[color=purple]-Because I stay in this area all the time I know the streets to not walk on, you’re from NY so you know what doesn’t look right. Most of the well lit street here are just fine, I’ve been out there by myself many times all hours of the night. Just remember never get in a argument with a Filipino, if someone offers you something just say you’re in a hurry to meet someone and keep moving, don’t start a dialog with anyone you don’t know out on the street late at night. Don’t hook up with girls in this area on the street at night, mainly because it may not be a lady. Plus if someone is trying to get you to exchange money here or there, just say I have enough pesos and keep moving don’t stop. If someone offers you “young” lady, don’t except, this will only lead to a setup bust that will cost you out the ass. Meet a lady at the club, talk to her and see what her demeanor is, your instincts will normally always be right.[/color]
[QUOTE=Gumby2004]After another visit to LA Cafe, I brought someone to my room I later caught red handed stealing money hidden in my suitcase. (And I really thought I hid it well.) Needless to say, she went out on her ass. Anyone have suggestions on securing valuables? I later hired a hotel driver to tour the city.[/blue][/QUOTE]
[color=purple]-If you don’t have a safe in the room, most hotels offer safety deposit boxes, I use these at the Cherry Blossom. If they don’t or you just don’t feel comfortable using the box at the desk, you should have a good lock for your suit case. When I’m in this situation the first thing I do in the room is get all valuables in the suit case and lock it up. Only have enough money for the evening. I have a friend that had this girl he met at LA Café take his cell phone, she left him the cell body cover and SIM, a thief with a heart I suppose. If you do this when you get to the room and the girl is in the shower, open your locked suit case put all things not in it already in it and lock it back up, use a combo lock to because she will look for the key maybe. Only keep out enough to pay her or the tip if she has already been paid. LA Café ladies, you should pay around php1500-2000 only, you only fuck up the market when you pay them more.[/color]
[QUOTE=Gumby2004]After a boring thirty minutes of showing me the ‘Great Sites of Manila’ (at 1am) the driver asks if I’m interested in meeting women. “Of course”, I say, and off we go. We first travel along a street close to Makati that had a lot of adult establishments. I ask if we’re stopping, and he curtly responds, “No. There are too many undesirables here. It would be very unsafe for you.” (During my stay, I heard this line repeated by so many guides that I was terrified of going anywhere unescorted. With retrospection, I realize that it’s probably Lesson #1 in the Hustler’s Playbook: Keep the sucker’s wallet within reach. After returning home and reviewing this board, I’m absolutely sure that street was P. Burgos. If I see this driver the next time I’m in Manila, he’s getting a beat down.) [/blue][/QUOTE]
[color=purple]-Best to have your plan where you want to go, when he said “too many undesirables here”, that means they won’t pay him or he’s fucked up his welcome at those places. Sometimes it’s best to have the guy take you to the mall or the some restaurant then tell him to get lost you will find your way home.[/color]
[QUOTE=Gumby2004]Our first stop was a strip joint called Athena on Roxas Blvd (in Pasay?) The driver accompanies me inside and introduces me to the proprietress as a newbie. The games resume. I politely avoid any price negotiation as I refuse to allow the driver to enjoy any kickbacks due to this obvious setup. Besides, I really want to just check out the place, chilling with a drink, and seeing where a conversation with a random honey may lead. The dancing was decent and the music surprisingly current. I had a drink with a 9 who offered to meet me at my room after her shift. I was content with learning that you can arrange to meet ladies on the DL and I summarily filed this tip. After a while, I conclude that club Athena too much resembles a tourist trap, so I pay the bill and tell the driver we’re leaving. .[/blue][/QUOTE]
[color=purple]-You’re right the driver gets kickbacks for bringing you there[/color]
[QUOTE=Gumby2004]The next spot, Casino Royale, is not really a casino, it’s a casa (the card says Makati). About twenty ladies were available at the time I arrived (3am). I thought it a nice touch that a few called out, “Pick me Sir”, with enthusiastic smiles. It didn’t take long to pick out a 10, whose name I completely forget. We went back to my room (negotiated to 50usd) where she delivered a knockout performance. I had revisited Casino Royale and another casa during my time in Manila, picking up a total of three honeys. All three had consistently delivered better service than anyone I had picked up at LA Café. Is this the norm? Or luck of the draw? .[/blue][/QUOTE]
[color=purple]-I’ve never tried a casa sounds interesting, maybe on my next trip.[/color]
[QUOTE=Gumby2004]Because I was too busy jetting to Dumaguete and Tacloban, I didn’t get an opportunity to explore Manila to the extent I had planned. I completely missed out on P. Burgos and EDSA. I’d go over my experiences in Dumaguete and Tacloban here, but I guess that’s other threads. But I will mention that I found it easier and cheaper hooking up with honeys in these cities than in the capital city. Would you guys say this is consistent with your experiences? To finish, I’ll just list some general observations about Manila: .[/blue][/QUOTE]
[color=purple]-I find it easy to hook up most places in the PI, some takes some planning. In Manila not much planning will get you hooked up at the Mall, in a club and just about anywhere you go.[/color]
[QUOTE=Gumby2004]Along Roxas Blvd, there seems to be a waterfront with a lot of festival-like activity. Is it safe for foreigners to take a stroll alone here? How likely is it to score here? [/blue][/QUOTE]
[color=purple]-I’ve been here many times at night; it’s a short walk from LA Café if you just need to get out for a few minutes. I’ve never had any problems at the Bay Walk, but common sense I’ve discussed before is the rule of thumb.[/color]
[QUOTE=Gumby2004]It seemed that action could be had anywhere, providing that you have the eye for identifying opportunities and your game is tight enough. Due to culture differences, it will take some time for the Western newbie to fully develop the ‘eye’. [/blue][/QUOTE]
[color=purple]-Yes, you are right Grass Hopper. (old kung fu thing). You will develop, the problem is action can be had all over and you start working on one and a better one comes along. I think the thing to work on in the PI is the tactful way to dismiss yourself from one lady and engaging yourself with another one in what appears to be a better catch. Yes that’s what takes work.[/color]
[QUOTE=Gumby2004]Respect. Respect. Respect. I’ve always believed that respect and courtesy can turn around more delicate situations than we give them credit for. In the Philippines, this theory was put to the test and proven several times. In dealings with people, on any level, a display of courtesy and respect will take you a long way. [/blue][/QUOTE]
[color=purple]-You are very right here. Don’t ever make a Filipino lose “face” in front of others, if you do you will pay later.[/color]
[QUOTE=Gumby2004]I had my quad-band phone unlocked in one of the Malls in Makati (2,500pesos). After that, all you do is buy a sim for 150pesos and you’re ready to go. I had a hard time finding someone to unlock my particular phone in NYC, so I was surprised when the first place I visited in Makati had it done in thirty minutes. [/blue][/QUOTE]
[color=purple]-I have a Motorola Raz from Cingular, I got it unlocked in the mall for php400, I think that was too high too. The guy started at php3000.00.[/color]
[QUOTE=Gumby2004]It seemed that every honey I hooked up with had difficulty when it was time to part. Some even cried. I need to work on the art of the ‘graceful disconnect.’ Any advice? [/blue][/QUOTE]
[color=purple]In the morning, have breakfast with her, thank her for the great time, if she gave excellent service a tip would be in order and tell her you have some business to tend to and will have to get ready to go. Tell her it’s time for her to go so you can get moving and on your way. Get her number, don’t give her yours and send her on her way. Then after she leaves go back to sleep or call one of the honeys’ you met and got a cell number from and have them come over for some morning fun.[/color]
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[color=purple]The below was written by a guy on another board over 4 years ago, if I have a friend going to the PI for the first time I let them read this:[/color]
[color=red]This was written by the "Corpsman" on the AC2 Board
Dealing with Philippino Men
I would like to offer my own suggestions and opinions on what I have gathered over the years being here in the P.I. dealing with the males here. My experience ranges from knock down drag out fights a couple of times with them to having 5 of them as employees.
There are distinct social classes here in the P.I. and it ranges from the educated upper class philippinos with money who have nothing to do with the lower class philippinos. They don't mix except maybe at family gathering if they are related and there is still anger and animosity towards those with money and those who don't have even if they are related to each other.
The tourists here on fields ave A.C.mostly deal with the low end of the philippino male class and when they leave the P.I. they have an extremely negative view of philippinos in general.
When dealing with the lower class philippino it is best not to get involved with them. They are very very easily offended at any slight that they may percieve is being directed towards them and will react in violence. This is a macho hispanic culture for the most part.
Stay away from philippinos who are drinking and politely refuse and just smile if they offer you a drink. Sooner or later you will be the one who will end up paying the bill and it will be very hard to extricate yourself from this position one you have started it without offending them. Philippinos have been known time and time again to kill close friends and relatives over just one insult during drinking sprees and hundreds of stabbings occur in drinking establishments over stares and mispercieved threats or insults.
You may be the biggest man in the world and huge, but you will not win in a fight with 20 philippinos and you will lose and end up stabbed before it is over.
Keeping away from drunk philippinos, and not engaging in hardcore staring at them and walking away from insults being hurled at you is not being a pussy in the P.I. it is called being smart and surviving to be able to get the hell out of here alive.
I have seen instances when the forienger has done nothing whatsoever to warrant a jumping by 5 philippinos or getting sucker punched at night time and robbed. This is just anger spilling over and being directed towards the forienger who is percieved to have an edge economically and with philippinas who want to leave this country and will go with any foreigner to achieve this.
Remember you are here as well as I am, with our dollars and we are fucking their woman night and day, hundreds of times. This has been going on for hundreds of years through the spanish times and american bases and so on. This tends to build up a hatred and hostile attitude towards foriengn males in general.
There are some of you who will say bullshit I fucked their sister or aunt or daughter and they don't care or they are happy that I'm fucking their sister, aunt, daughter or Whatever and have never said nothing to me about it. In their minds they hate you. You are a source of money for them and that is the only way they would ever tolerate you being with their woman and fucking them. And if you step out of line and hurt one of theirs or don't pay up they will kill you or at least beat your ass or try to find you and pay revenge on you.
A forienger will never be a close friend to a philippino as would another philippino to a philippino. You are a forienger period. There are also those on this board who have tricked themselves or are in the delusion that they have close philippino male friends. If you go to most expat locations outside of fields like La union, subic, baguio, etc. the retirees stay amongst themselves and away from philippinos for good reason and you should ask them why, I did and I do not want to repeat what they told me because I would be flamed to hell and back. Just to suffice it to say that they do it to stay alive and well in the P.I. and when they need a philippino to do some job for them or whatever they have them do it and that is it. It ends there. No trying to be friends or best buddys because they know after years and years of living here the truth and how to relate to them.
Some of you may say, Wait a minute I was invited to party with my girlfriends family and I encounted no hostile attitudes and they were nice to me. Yes of course they would not, that would kill the deal and money flow.
To sum up:
Be friendly and smile to them. Nothing wrong with just shooting the shit and saying hi how are you and so on. Shaking hands goes along way also and buying a beer now and then, but not staying to join is a good idea.
Don't engage in serious eye to eye contact as this is a serious threat to them and means war. Sometimes you may get away with it but sooner or later it will catch up.
If you bump into one while walking best to say your sorry and smile and walk away. Its not the right time to argue and shout as this will escalate the situation and the philippino will lose face in front of his country men and will have to get it back by violence and others will help him get it back against you.
Don't hit or shout loudly or call philippinas sluts and bitches in front of a group of trike drivers or males on the corner. Not a smart thing to do. You should get your ass kicked if your doing this anyway.
Don't push or shove people in the street. This is inviting trouble. Keep your hands to yourself. I did this to a vendor once who was a little to aggressive and was surrounded by 20 of them in a new york minute and then I apoligized and offered to buy him a beer and it was forgotten and settled. I could have been mister big man and taken on the vendor assoc, but i would have lost.
The fights that I mentioned that I was in earlier in my post was just plain survival and their was only two and it was at night and no other philippinos were around to help them not get their asses kicked. In that situation I used pepper spray and rocks. I'm in good shape and in my late 20's. I don't know if I would have done it again as one of them could have had a gun. Most males who are of the street class carry something as a weapon, whether a ice pick, knife, homemade gun. You never know.[/color]
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Nice report
[QUOTE=Razzor][color=purple]Gumby, I'm no expert, but I have been to the PI many times. I've tried to answer a few of your questions, hope it helps you out. Others will have different ideas, this is just mine. Really sounds like you enjoyed your trip, time to start planning the next one.
RaZZoR[/color]
[color=purple]-Next time you make flight arrangements check with NWA they have specials where tickets can be as cheap as $650.00 around twice a year during off season.
-The domestic tickets run about the same most of the time, but sometimes they have fair specials and they could be as low as $50.00 round trip where you are going. You can get the tickets almost anywhere, but I would recommend you get them in the mall at the official Philippine Airline office. More or less if you just wait to get them in the PI you will pay the same as you did, but you may save and you would have less trouble changing the ticket if you wanted to stay somewhere longer.[/color]
[color=purple]-It’s best to use the official transportation at the airport unless the hotel will pick you up without jamming you like you got. I used to go upstairs to the departures and jump a taxi that just dropped someone off, this doesn’t work as well anymore because the police and security will stop them and make you get out because they are not the official taxi. Plus this is high risk doing that. When you do take a taxi and you feel the driver is fucken insane, act like your calling someone on your cell and tell them your driver’s name and what taxi you’re in and you’ll be there in a few minutes. I have taken more than 100 taxi rides in Manila, most are no problem, always remember to tell them to turn the meter on or you don’t ride. You can remind them of the php3000 fine for a defective meter or not using it. I know my way around Manila so I know if the driver is taken me the wrong way or somewhere I shouldn’t be around and this is a factor not knowing your way around. Just remember if the area looks like you shouldn’t be there ask the driver to take you to the area around the US Embassy Now. I have had a driver take me through Tondo in the day time; you wouldn’t want to be in this area at night. If a driver is taken you through a area like that he know he shouldn’t best to look for a place to bale and fine another taxi. Most Filipinas you will meet don’t really know the taxi stuff very well because they take Jeeps and buses around Manila most of the time so don’t expect great advice from a bar girl on taxi’s.[/color]
[color=purple]-Most of the time I stay at the Cherry Blossom next to Robinson Mall in Ermita and a 5 minute walk to the LA Café. Not the best hotel in Manila, it’s clean, large rooms, girl friendly, 1 minute walk to the mall and for less than $30.00 a night. I have stayed at the Pan Pacific in Ermita for less than $100 with on line reservation and that is top notch place to stay. There are many places in the Ermita area that are decent for less than $50 a night. For myself I find Ermita to be the best place to stay and get around.[/color]
[color=purple]-No need to make arrangements with taxi drivers like that. Only if you pay them say php500 for 3 or 4 hours flat rate. Later in your report you discuss the taxi driver taking you where he wants to take you and not really where you want to go. He gets a fee when he took you to one of these places and you bar fine, but this is reflected in the price you pay. Best to tell the driver to take you to X spot and then they should go, sometimes they hang around and wait for you act like they are taking care of you. They are only trying to see if you leave and take you somewhere else they may collect a fee. This is why I like Erimta so much, I don’t have to take Taxi at night, so many bars and places to hang out I don’t get wrapped up with the taxi problems at night.[/color]
[color=purple]-LA Café, been there so many times…. Sounds like your friend is what I refer to as one of the “Sharks”. When you walk in the door to your left it’s the Shark Pit, when Jackie brought you in you didn’t have a chance in the Pit, unless you picked up and walked around. Best to stay away from the ones who are in that area, they are there all the time. I know a lady who is in the Pit every time I go to the LA Café, she was the first girl I stuffed in the PI in Sep 1995 in Angeles City.[/color]
[color=purple]-Because I stay in this area all the time I know the streets to not walk on, you’re from NY so you know what doesn’t look right. Most of the well lit street here are just fine, I’ve been out there by myself many times all hours of the night. Just remember never get in a argument with a Filipino, if someone offers you something just say you’re in a hurry to meet someone and keep moving, don’t start a dialog with anyone you don’t know out on the street late at night. Don’t hook up with girls in this area on the street at night, mainly because it may not be a lady. Plus if someone is trying to get you to exchange money here or there, just say I have enough pesos and keep moving don’t stop. If someone offers you “young” lady, don’t except, this will only lead to a setup bust that will cost you out the ass. Meet a lady at the club, talk to her and see what her demeanor is, your instincts will normally always be right.[/color]
[color=purple]-If you don’t have a safe in the room, most hotels offer safety deposit boxes, I use these at the Cherry Blossom. If they don’t or you just don’t feel comfortable using the box at the desk, you should have a good lock for your suit case. When I’m in this situation the first thing I do in the room is get all valuables in the suit case and lock it up. Only have enough money for the evening. I have a friend that had this girl he met at LA Café take his cell phone, she left him the cell body cover and SIM, a thief with a heart I suppose. If you do this when you get to the room and the girl is in the shower, open your locked suit case put all things not in it already in it and lock it back up, use a combo lock to because she will look for the key maybe. Only keep out enough to pay her or the tip if she has already been paid. LA Café ladies, you should pay around php1500-2000 only, you only fuck up the market when you pay them more.[/color]
[color=purple]-Best to have your plan where you want to go, when he said “too many undesirables here”, that means they won’t pay him or he’s fucked up his welcome at those places. Sometimes it’s best to have the guy take you to the mall or the some restaurant then tell him to get lost you will find your way home.[/color]
[color=purple]-You’re right the driver gets kickbacks for bringing you there[/color]
[color=purple]-I’ve never tried a casa sounds interesting, maybe on my next trip.[/color]
[color=purple]-I find it easy to hook up most places in the PI, some takes some planning. In Manila not much planning will get you hooked up at the Mall, in a club and just about anywhere you go.[/color]
[color=purple]-I’ve been here many times at night; it’s a short walk from LA Café if you just need to get out for a few minutes. I’ve never had any problems at the Bay Walk, but common sense I’ve discussed before is the rule of thumb.[/color]
[color=purple]-Yes, you are right Grass Hopper. (old kung fu thing). You will develop, the problem is action can be had all over and you start working on one and a better one comes along. I think the thing to work on in the PI is the tactful way to dismiss yourself from one lady and engaging yourself with another one in what appears to be a better catch. Yes that’s what takes work.[/color]
[color=purple]-You are very right here. Don’t ever make a Filipino lose “face” in front of others, if you do you will pay later.[/color]
[color=purple]-I have a Motorola Raz from Cingular, I got it unlocked in the mall for php400, I think that was too high too. The guy started at php3000.00.[/color]
[color=purple]In the morning, have breakfast with her, thank her for the great time, if she gave excellent service a tip would be in order and tell her you have some business to tend to and will have to get ready to go. Tell her it’s time for her to go so you can get moving and on your way. Get her number, don’t give her yours and send her on her way. Then after she leaves go back to sleep or call one of the honeys’ you met and got a cell number from and have them come over for some morning fun.[/color]
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[color=purple]The below was written by a guy on another board over 4 years ago, if I have a friend going to the PI for the first time I let them read this:[/color]
[color=red]This was written by the "Corpsman" on the AC2 Board
Dealing with Philippino Men
I would like to offer my own suggestions and opinions on what I have gathered over the years being here in the P.I. dealing with the males here. My experience ranges from knock down drag out fights a couple of times with them to having 5 of them as employees.
There are distinct social classes here in the P.I. and it ranges from the educated upper class philippinos with money who have nothing to do with the lower class philippinos. They don't mix except maybe at family gathering if they are related and there is still anger and animosity towards those with money and those who don't have even if they are related to each other.
The tourists here on fields ave A.C.mostly deal with the low end of the philippino male class and when they leave the P.I. they have an extremely negative view of philippinos in general.
When dealing with the lower class philippino it is best not to get involved with them. They are very very easily offended at any slight that they may percieve is being directed towards them and will react in violence. This is a macho hispanic culture for the most part.
Stay away from philippinos who are drinking and politely refuse and just smile if they offer you a drink. Sooner or later you will be the one who will end up paying the bill and it will be very hard to extricate yourself from this position one you have started it without offending them. Philippinos have been known time and time again to kill close friends and relatives over just one insult during drinking sprees and hundreds of stabbings occur in drinking establishments over stares and mispercieved threats or insults.
You may be the biggest man in the world and huge, but you will not win in a fight with 20 philippinos and you will lose and end up stabbed before it is over.
Keeping away from drunk philippinos, and not engaging in hardcore staring at them and walking away from insults being hurled at you is not being a pussy in the P.I. it is called being smart and surviving to be able to get the hell out of here alive.
I have seen instances when the forienger has done nothing whatsoever to warrant a jumping by 5 philippinos or getting sucker punched at night time and robbed. This is just anger spilling over and being directed towards the forienger who is percieved to have an edge economically and with philippinas who want to leave this country and will go with any foreigner to achieve this.
Remember you are here as well as I am, with our dollars and we are fucking their woman night and day, hundreds of times. This has been going on for hundreds of years through the spanish times and american bases and so on. This tends to build up a hatred and hostile attitude towards foriengn males in general.
There are some of you who will say bullshit I fucked their sister or aunt or daughter and they don't care or they are happy that I'm fucking their sister, aunt, daughter or Whatever and have never said nothing to me about it. In their minds they hate you. You are a source of money for them and that is the only way they would ever tolerate you being with their woman and fucking them. And if you step out of line and hurt one of theirs or don't pay up they will kill you or at least beat your ass or try to find you and pay revenge on you.
A forienger will never be a close friend to a philippino as would another philippino to a philippino. You are a forienger period. There are also those on this board who have tricked themselves or are in the delusion that they have close philippino male friends. If you go to most expat locations outside of fields like La union, subic, baguio, etc. the retirees stay amongst themselves and away from philippinos for good reason and you should ask them why, I did and I do not want to repeat what they told me because I would be flamed to hell and back. Just to suffice it to say that they do it to stay alive and well in the P.I. and when they need a philippino to do some job for them or whatever they have them do it and that is it. It ends there. No trying to be friends or best buddys because they know after years and years of living here the truth and how to relate to them.
Some of you may say, Wait a minute I was invited to party with my girlfriends family and I encounted no hostile attitudes and they were nice to me. Yes of course they would not, that would kill the deal and money flow.
To sum up:
Be friendly and smile to them. Nothing wrong with just shooting the shit and saying hi how are you and so on. Shaking hands goes along way also and buying a beer now and then, but not staying to join is a good idea.
Don't engage in serious eye to eye contact as this is a serious threat to them and means war. Sometimes you may get away with it but sooner or later it will catch up.
If you bump into one while walking best to say your sorry and smile and walk away. Its not the right time to argue and shout as this will escalate the situation and the philippino will lose face in front of his country men and will have to get it back by violence and others will help him get it back against you.
Don't hit or shout loudly or call philippinas sluts and bitches in front of a group of trike drivers or males on the corner. Not a smart thing to do. You should get your ass kicked if your doing this anyway.
Don't push or shove people in the street. This is inviting trouble. Keep your hands to yourself. I did this to a vendor once who was a little to aggressive and was surrounded by 20 of them in a new york minute and then I apoligized and offered to buy him a beer and it was forgotten and settled. I could have been mister big man and taken on the vendor assoc, but i would have lost.
The fights that I mentioned that I was in earlier in my post was just plain survival and their was only two and it was at night and no other philippinos were around to help them not get their asses kicked. In that situation I used pepper spray and rocks. I'm in good shape and in my late 20's. I don't know if I would have done it again as one of them could have had a gun. Most males who are of the street class carry something as a weapon, whether a ice pick, knife, homemade gun. You never know.[/color][/QUOTE]
Yes they will side with the person from there own country before letting the foreigner have a deal As for the cell phone the 4oo p is a good price at the mall beat them down.
The people around are always looking to get over on us so never leave the cell camera or anything unattended anywhere.They have you look in one direction and when you turn back your shit is GONE.Just that fast.
A drink will go a long distance when it comes time for a quick exit so be nice and try and shake hands and say hi to any door men and others that could get you out of a jam.
Respect is easy and to eat crow is a wise thing to remember here.Save the last word for back home...
DR,BUXTON...
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Years ago in Korea they used to say slicky boy was so good he could take the radio and leave the music behind (PI had about the same rap)
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EDSA Entertainment Complex Firehouse phone number?
Does anyone have the phone number of the Firehouse in EDSA Entertainment Complex? Need to contact a girl there.
Thanks
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Firehouse No
[QUOTE=Visi001]Does anyone have the phone number of the Firehouse in EDSA Entertainment Complex? Need to contact a girl there.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Beep Thank you for calling Directory Assistance,The number is 632-834-2813 or 8343812 Thank you for calling Monger International Directory Assistance Now you owe me a beer.
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No defense needed...
Guiness:
CL is also a friend of mine, and I'll be seeing him next week. You know and I know that he's one of the nicest people on this planet and he needs no defending from me or from anyone else. His friends know who he is, and why should he care whatever those who may not be his friends think?
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Thanks Guys
I understand that some people get embarassed when the the truth comes out and perhaps that is Why the Surfer could not accept that there were no multiple ID s.But I was clearly having Coffee with one guy at Ziggurat,The other was tapping away at 88 Internet Cafe and Another was in the Peninsula registered as Senator Real Name.Anyway I will continue to provide advice and Information and Validate Stuff as needed.GE See you soon Cheers
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Thank You CL
Cebu Local is the most trusted and helpful person on the Philippine thread. He has assisted hundreds if not thousands of people traveling to the P.I. In addition, he was the voice of reason during the Dannah Mae controversy while others were attacking her for no reason. I think it's disgraceful Surfer has attacked the reputation of this kind person.
The Philippine section has been peaceful for quite a while until Surfer drifted into town. It would be nice if he would go back to the Colombia section where he is continuing his attack on others.
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Just like any big city
[QUOTE=Xtorted Decay]As for the safety of the area, all I can tell you is when the guy I went to manila with (he grew up there) and his cousins saw the area LA Cafe was in, they were horrified that I had gone there alone. I don't know if they were just being over protective or if its really that bad of an area...But most of the filipinos I talk to seem to think its pretty dangerous. However I have been wanting to ask the board's perspective on this also. How bad of an area is it? I havn't seen any posts like "I got beat down/robbed at LA Cafe" so I have to assume its alright.
However I was there a number of times and never had a problem. I even walked down the street to Amazonia (about a block) and had no problem at all, but it was full day light and I had a lady with me. I have a feeling that with all of the westerners that frequent both places, measures are kept to keep them safe. I think the last thing any filipino business owner would want is something discouraging western money from coming to his or her place.[/QUOTE]
I stayed for a month at the Manila Pavilon many different times. I had no problem walking from the hotel to LA Cafe. I am 5'9, 275 lbs. I walk like I know where I am going, if someone tries to approach me I wave them off or shake my head no. If someone persists, I stop and look them directly in the eye and say no very sternly. I have never had a problem even walking at 3 am.
Some people may say I am crazy, but I have been trained in the martial arts on how to defend myself. Also 2 of my nephews are PNP officers, who showed me the ropes.
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Del Pilar...
I'm about 5'7", 60+ years old, never been trained in the martial arts, non-combative, and never had a single problem walking back and forth between Amazonia and LA Cafe. Never been threatened, never had so much as a hostile stare, and am never afraid of that street.
I don't know what the situation may be on the side streets and I do not plan to find out, but I'm reasonably sure that Del Pilar is totally safe. If you're worried, have a taxi drop you at the door, and then take a taxi from the door to wherever else you may want to go. I get somewhat pissed off at the guys trying to hustle me into taxi's with "no meter" so I usually walk to the middle of the street and flag down a metered taxi.
Like anywhere else in the PI, it's wise to remain prudent and not to carry much money. I always leave the credit cards, driver's license and anything else of value and/or with a picture in the hotel safe before I leave the room. I never carry more than P5,000 or war any expensive jewelry and try hard never to call attention to myself. It seems to work.
:D
GE
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CL: I Never Attacked You At All
While PROV & DD ALWAYS seem to post in unison, creating reasonable suspicion they are one and the same, you are credible and I have NEVER made any such accusation against you. You validated that they are separate and I accept that. Guiness is obviously another friend of those two (though he has not previously participated in their joint jihaad against me after pointing out Don's pattern of racist postings-doubt you have ANY interest but I can cut and paste them for you).
I trust you see through their clumsy attempt to create an impression that I have "attacked" you when nothing could be further from the truth. I NEVER suggested you were part of their "circle jerK' and the quote Guiness posted attempting to instigate a dispute between you and I says no such thing. Salamat Kuya.
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Del Pilar and whole Ermita area basically
Like GE, I carry cash as needed and leave all other documents like driver's licence, passport, etc in the hotel safe. When in town I walk all over the Ermita area and have had no problem. At night I limit the areas I walk in to Del Pilar, Roxas Boulevard and other thoroughfares that have night life and other tourists. In the mornings just be careful to step over the sleeping kids.
For some reason local Filipino's freak out when I tell them I walk around Ermita. As Xtorted Decay says, they think this place is full of thieves, robbers, muggers, pick pockets, etc.
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Wow
[QUOTE=Fog Ducker]Like GE, I carry cash as needed and leave all other documents like driver's licence, passport, etc in the hotel safe. When in town I walk all over the Ermita area and have had no problem. At night I limit the areas I walk in to Del Pilar, Roxas Boulevard and other thoroughfares that have night life and other tourists. In the mornings just be careful to step over the sleeping kids.
For some reason local Filipino's freak out when I tell them I walk around Ermita. As Xtorted Decay says, they think this place is full of thieves, robbers, muggers, pick pockets, etc.[/QUOTE]
I was told there was no crime in the areas mentioned.Nice to see someone else walked around with his eyes wide open.
B.B...
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Duly noted
[QUOTE=Surfer]While PROV & DD ALWAYS seem to post in unison, creating reasonable suspicion they are one and the same, you are credible and I have NEVER made any such accusation against you. You validated that they are separate and I accept that. Guiness is obviously another friend of those two (though he has not previously participated in their joint jihaad against me after pointing out Don's pattern of racist postings-doubt you have ANY interest but I can cut and paste them for you).
I trust you see through their clumsy attempt to create an impression that I have "attacked" you when nothing could be further from the truth. I NEVER suggested you were part of their "circle jerK' and the quote Guiness posted attempting to instigate a dispute between you and I says no such thing. Salamat Kuya.[/QUOTE]Duly noted and Thanks for the Clarification.Best Regards
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Prov & Guiness:
As I PM'd CL, I NEVER "attacked" him at all and I challenge you two to put up [your evidence] or shut up. Quit instigating flame wars or trying to involve others like CL in your dispute with me (because I called "the Senator" on his racist posts in the Colombia folder).
Trying to start flame wars is all Prov ever does, and why Jackson has not banned him (despite putting him on final warning long ago) is beyond me. Prov is a paradigm of "serial antagonist" and adds absolutely nothing of any value. While I find Dashingdon's racist comments offensive, at least he tries to post some info and photos, unlike Prov who only posts to flame. Guiness has heretofore refrained from shit disturbing so one can hope his post is an isolated incident.
Quit wasting everybody's time as the members come here looking for info on Filipinas, not your stupid little attempt to discredit me for criticizing your Senator.
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ermita
[QUOTE=Fog Ducker]Like GE, I carry cash as needed and leave all other documents like driver's licence, passport, etc in the hotel safe. When in town I walk all over the Ermita area and have had no problem. At night I limit the areas I walk in to Del Pilar, Roxas Boulevard and other thoroughfares that have night life and other tourists. In the mornings just be careful to step over the sleeping kids.
For some reason local Filipino's freak out when I tell them I walk around Ermita. As Xtorted Decay says, they think this place is full of thieves, robbers, muggers, pick pockets, etc.[/QUOTE]
to fog ducker
Emrita is full of beggar, pimp and hustler not muggers and robbers.
fast eddie 48
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Hey guys,
I will be in Manila on vacation in a couple months. I have a few questions.
1. It will be a family trip...no friends coming with me. Just my, my parents, and my sisters.
Now obviously I can't go to the clubs with them.
So I will be alone. Does this make the whole thing much more difficult?
Will they see me as less approachable since I'm by myself?
2. So I walk into a bar like Firehouse...what exactly do I do, just walk up to a waitress or bartender and say "I'm interested in a girl"?? And if so, do they automatically assume that I mean a prostitute?
3. I have no where to take the girl, since I will be staying at a hotel w/ my family...so what options do I have where I won't have to spend much extra?
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just go to the bar. they will come to you. buy a girl a drink and ask questions. you'll learn a lot.
i prefer to make eye contact with whoever attracts my interest. if you need to speed things up, talk to one of the older ladies (mamasan). tell her who you like and she'll call the girl over...sometimes right off the dance stage.
i suppose some guys here will have recommendations for short-time hotels, but again, the ladies will usually know a place. i've never had to do this though.
of course you are advertising yourself as a complete newbie, so they might try to get you to overpay. for short time from firehouse, give her 1000 and if she complains, give her another 500.
btw, the dance shows at makati, burgos (jools and one other place) are quite professional. what do the rest of you guys think? would you take family members to such a show? i think i would, but my family members are realatively open minded.
x
x
[quote=ralek]hey guys,
i will be in manila on vacation in a couple months. i have a few questions.
1. it will be a family trip...no friends coming with me. just my, my parents, and my sisters.
now obviously i can't go to the clubs with them.
so i will be alone. does this make the whole thing much more difficult?
will they see me as less approachable since i'm by myself?
2. so i walk into a bar like firehouse...what exactly do i do, just walk up to a waitress or bartender and say "i'm interested in a girl"?? and if so, do they automatically assume that i mean a prostitute?
3. i have no where to take the girl, since i will be staying at a hotel w/ my family...so what options do i have where i won't have to spend much extra?[/quote]
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Reply to Ralek
I think X Man covered the essential points. Remember though, in the Edsa complex and in the Burgos bars, there are no "normal" girls, and most, if not all, are there for hire. You do not really need to ask "for a girl" and your only problem will be deciding which one or which ones you want. I've run into two "virgins" on Burgos who allegedly don't go with customers. This is a rare exception however.
Remember, that this is a business, and there's little luck or skill involved in purchasing the commodity that's being sold. Tell the girl of your choice that you want to pay her bar fine. She will nod and call over the mamasan, who will take your money. The girl will then disappear for a few minutes to change into street clothes, and off you go. I'm sure that every girl working in every bar in Manila knows all of the short time hotels. If you like whomever you pick up, then get her cell phone number and you can make arrangements directly with her after the first time with no hassles and no barfine.
:D
GE
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massage sauna
[QUOTE=Ralek]Hey guys,
I will be in Manila on vacation in a couple months. I have a few questions.
1. It will be a family trip...no friends coming with me. Just my, my parents, and my sisters.
Now obviously I can't go to the clubs with them.
So I will be alone. Does this make the whole thing much more difficult?
Will they see me as less approachable since I'm by myself?
2. So I walk into a bar like Firehouse...what exactly do I do, just walk up to a waitress or bartender and say "I'm interested in a girl"?? And if so, do they automatically assume that I mean a prostitute?
3. I have no where to take the girl, since I will be staying at a hotel w/ my family...so what options do I have where I won't have to spend much extra?[/QUOTE]
to ralek
I think you should go to place like phoenix one in makati is a massage place
that offer fs and you can do this during the day and spend evening with your
family , Why don't you take your father with you there is many massage place
in manila just ask any taxi dude they will take you there .
I know you are a newbie and new to p4p just go to a bar and check it out I
am sure you will like it girl in manila offer gfe and are very friendly .
fast eddie 48
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Alabang, Manila - Mugging Gang
Just as a Heads Up - there is a gang going around the malls in Alabang looking for foreigners to mug. The technique is to seek out foreigners alone and use a knock out spray on the victim when the victim is alone, before robbing them. Watch carefully for this, especially if you are followed into a CR etc.
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Ralek ... "3. I have no where to take the girl, since I will be staying at a hotel w/ my family...so what options do I have where I won't have to spend much extra?"
Two options. First, ask the mama-san where is there a cheap short-time hotel. Second, ask a taxicab driver.
If you are at the Edsa Entertainment Complex Center, exit out, turn left, and walk to the corner. From there, you can see a motel-type place called Queensland about 100 meters away and across the street. To the right, across Edsa (a 8-lane street full of traffic and no nearby traffic lights) about 150 meters away, there are five or six short-time motels. The newest is the Sogo Hotel. All of these places charge about 500 peso (about $10) for several hours of use. They have different prices for different types of rooms, but the lowest-priced room, named something like a taxi room) is usually not available in the late evening.
If you are in the Ermita neighborhood, there are cheap hotels around for around $20. Aussies tend to favor those hotels for their visits. Ask the bartender or manager for a recommendation of a short-time room.
If you are in a Burgos club, there are a couple of clubs that have a room in the back or upstairs. They usually charge extra.
If you are in a KTV, you are in the wrong place because the vast majority are more expensive than the three areas mentioned above. By the way, a few KTVs are for family and others to sing together in privacy.
Of course, for afternoon delights, there are massage parlors, where you do not need to go out for a quickie.
Stand In (a substitute for someone else)
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Thanks for the responses guys.
Anyone else use filipinaheart.com? I just set up an account there...I'll only be in Manila for 1 week, and most of the girls on this site seem to be looking for a serious relationship. I was wondering if anyone had any luck w/ getting a one night stnad with any of these girls.
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MP in Manila/Ermita area
Hi to all,
Im flying back to PI august 4 and stay first night or first 2 nights in Manila.
I did some search on MP here, but the nearest I found was some MP along airport road starfleet or airforce one, it escaped my name.
Is there any nice MP in ermita area? I stay at Bayview park hotel along manila bay, if its gud I extend if not I move to Kimberly hotel which also looks nice.
After a long flight I liked to have a nice massage (with happy ending) but I dont like to drive so far from the area I stay.
Any PM also welcome. Please advise or give directions. Im not a newbie , but a newbie in nightlife in Ermita and also newbie in MP in that area.
Thanks , I wil post my experience here.
Happy hunting!!!
Blink
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Don't waste time
[QUOTE=Ralek]Thanks for the responses guys.
Anyone else use filipinaheart.com? I just set up an account there...I'll only be in Manila for 1 week, and most of the girls on this site seem to be looking for a serious relationship. I was wondering if anyone had any luck w/ getting a one night stnad with any of these girls.[/QUOTE]
to RALEK
Don't waste time if you are only got a week , Most girls just want to meet
rich foreign to get marry ,If you want action go to LA cafe and burgos and
p4p time is money .
fast eddie 48
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mp
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi to all,
Im flying back to PI august 4 and stay first night or first 2 nights in Manila.
I did some search on MP here, but the nearest I found was some MP along airport road starfleet or airforce one, it escaped my name.
Is there any nice MP in ermita area? I stay at Bayview park hotel along manila bay, if its gud I extend if not I move to Kimberly hotel which also looks nice.
After a long flight I liked to have a nice massage (with happy ending) but I dont like to drive so far from the area I stay.
Any PM also welcome. Please advise or give directions. Im not a newbie , but a newbie in nightlife in Ermita and also newbie in MP in that area.
Thanks , I wil post my experience here.
Happy hunting!!!
Blink[/QUOTE]
TO BLINK
There used to be Skyline health spa at Bivd Grand hotel at Roxas at Malate
but it was closed last Nov not sure that it reopening or not ,It was a great
place to get a nice massage and FS girl is good quality .
There are many low end massage place in malate 1500-2500 peso for massage and FS but not as nice as the one near the airport another good
place for massage is makaiti area , I am sure there may be some in Ermita but
never been to any.
fast eddie 48
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MPs
HI there,
Starfleet is still there, near the airport.
Skyline is now called Mercury Spa and its still on the 8th floor at Grand blvd.
There is a place called Palacio Don Pedro (PDP) just 2 minutes walking distance from Burgos.
Have a great time.
IB
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]TO BLINK
There used to be Skyline health spa at Bivd Grand hotel at Roxas at Malate
but it was closed last Nov not sure that it reopening or not ,It was a great
place to get a nice massage and FS girl is good quality .
There are many low end massage place in malate 1500-2500 peso for massage and FS but not as nice as the one near the airport another good
place for massage is makaiti area , I am sure there may be some in Ermita but
never been to any.
fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]
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Edsa entertainment
Hello guys,
thanks for the info on MP ilongo_boy and fast eddie48. I will try thos eplaces once Im there.
Even Im not a newbie in PI, I went first time for barfine at Edsa last year and I think I paid to much for the gurls. 2000 to 3000 plus barfine for allnight/short time.
I dont know , but I dont wana ruin a GFE when I barfine the gurl and talk about money before also discuss about bj etc etc. On the other side I also dont want to overpay or gettin bad service.
So lets talk about this. You have made eyecontact to ur future barfine, you invite her for a drink, now u discuss prize and services. She ask for 3 000 short time and 5000 overnight, which isnt unlikely in Edsa and you just offer half of it. So what happens?? Either she will agree, or you have to say gudbye, walk out and try ur luck in the next bar, talk to another gurl, buy another drink, etc etc. So all in all you might waste tme and aditional money for ladydrinks etc etc. I not saying I would spent 5000 p but someting between 2000 and 3000 is reasonable? Or do I pay to much??
Maybe you guys share some experiences in bargaining and get a gud price without losing face and pissing ur future barfine off and spoiling the GFE.
Im talkin about one or two nights in Manila, after that I go to my gf in AC and in AC I have more time and can collect cp numbers etc and I know the price to pay over there, but Manila is a another scenery.
PM or post here and share :)
Happy hunting!!
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Edsa
When I went to Casino a couple of weeks ago, the barfine was 1000 and the girl was asking 2000. Our reason for not paying was because we just came from a wet massage at Starfleet and had to get back soon but the girls must have thought it was a money issue.
Apparently they asked the mama-san in a Visayan dialect if they could go for 1000. My brother-in-law understood and told me about it. So, we could have had the girls for 2000 total plus hotel...
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Negotiating Edsa...
[QUOTE=Sugoi]When I went to Casino a couple of weeks ago, the barfine was 1000 and the girl was asking 2000. Our reason for not paying was because we just came from a wet massage at Starfleet and had to get back soon but the girls must have thought it was a money issue.
Apparently they asked the mama-san in a Visayan dialect if they could go for 1000. My brother-in-law understood and told me about it. So, we could have had the girls for 2000 total plus hotel...[/QUOTE]
Strange, but in all of the times I've been to Edsa, aside from the barfine, I've never once discussed money beforehand, and it's never been a problem. I don't think the bar cares about the private arrangement with the girl as its take is limited to the PhP1,000 barfine that you must pay prior to your departure.
:D
GE
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Strange, but in all of the times I've been to Edsa, aside from the barfine, I've never once discussed money beforehand, and it's never been a problem. I don't think the bar cares about the private arrangement with the girl as its take is limited to the PhP1,000 barfine that you must pay prior to your departure.
:D
GE[/QUOTE]
We didn't negotiate with them. I think they thought we didn't know what the bar was about and so they readily told us to pay 1000 to the bar and 2000 to them. We said not now and that we would buy them a drink and check out some other bars since it was our first bar. They must have thought that we thought 2000 was too much because my brother-in-law overheard them asking the mama-san if 1000 was ok.
I thought that was strange too because I had thought that the girls keep the money and the bar didn't care. Maybe they have to give a percentage to the mama-san...
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Edsa
[QUOTE=Sugoi]We didn't negotiate with them. I think they thought we didn't know what the bar was about and so they readily told us to pay 1000 to the bar and 2000 to them. We said not now and that we would buy them a drink and check out some other bars since it was our first bar. They must have thought that we thought 2000 was too much because my brother-in-law overheard them asking the mama-san if 1000 was ok.
I thought that was strange too because I had thought that the girls keep the money and the bar didn't care. Maybe they have to give a percentage to the mama-san...[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info guys,
Sugoi, makes sense what you told us here.On my last visit the gurl which I barfined at Edsa , told me she just start working here and before we went out she talked to the mamasan bout barfine, cause later she told me when I gave her the money that it was 3000 for short time and 5000 for overnight (of course I didnt pay that, but I admit I gave her 3000 p for overnight) and she make sure that was the goin rate , cause she asked mama san before.
So I know that the mamasans get a percentage of the barfine from the bar, but its new to me that they also get something from the money I will pay directly to the gurl.
Makes me thinkin....
Happy hunting!!
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Pasig Quezon
Hi,
Just a bit off topic.
I have seen some cheap condos advertised in Pasig and Quezon Cities. A condo in Makati would be better but just a bit more money than I am prepared to risk at this time.
I am just looking at vacation accommodation presently, with the possibilty of renting it out when I am not there.
I would like to hear any comments on these locations.
Thanks,
Steve
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Cops on the Prowl
Unfortunately, I have not had much time to keep up to date with this site so maybe this was covered already. I would go back and read and look but I got some drinking and whorin' to do.
Anyway, let me get down to it. For those of you who frequent LA Cafe, Amazonia, or the other bars in that area watch out. There is a couple cops out there running the old give us money or we will run you in for prositution scam.
I have been nailed twice now by the same cop. His buddies the second time around were different than the first group but he nailed us at a checkpoint near Harrison Plaza. There is a short time motel nearby called LongWood and they know what goes on there so they set up shop in a nice location. The route between LA and LongWood.
Anyway, his routine is he will tell you the girl you are with he identified her as a hooker and will take you to "investigation" (the police station.) He will of course look the other way and do you a "favor." He will do his best to not spell out that he wants money but I am a jerk and will even break balls with cops. (Yeah! I am not the sharpest pencil in the box.) I made him go round in circles till he finally pretty much just told me he wanted cash to let me go.
I was going to call a friend of mine to get me out of it but this guy was willing to go for small change because I gave him the run around pretending to be new and not knowing anything. He was more nervous than the girl in the taxi. HEH!
Anyway, I gave him 2K pesos and sent him and his buddy on their way.
The second time he nailed me it was 2 days ago. I did not even have a girl but my buddy was with his girlfriend of 6 years and the cop ran same routine. (I was the only one out of the taxi because he recognized me and knew I would pay. Would not let the others out of the taxi.)
It took me a minute to realize it but when I looked at him I realized it was the same guy. He pretended not to recognize me right off but of course he did and that is why he nailed us and only let me out of the taxi. Anyway, when I reminded him who I was he got real friendly and played like he was willing to let me go without money this time. Of course his buddy played bad cop and pushed for some cash. I think I gave him 1300 pesos this time and this time I got his name and his cell #. He offered it up to me before I had a chance to ask and told me if I got into trouble to give him a call and he would get me out of it.
Little does he know I am turning that number and name over to a guy I know with a higher rank than his. I intend to push the issue and see his butt in a sling as well. Is why I played Mr. Nice White Man. Keep his guard down.
Anyway, just thought you guys want to know look around before you get in a taxi with a girl from a bar. If you see cops don't get in the taxi. If you dont and you do get in the taxi and you get pulled over. Tell the girl, "We have known each other for 2 years and you make sure the taxi driver uses the story of you are going to get some food. Remember guys. McDonalds here is open 24 hours in some cases. Filling Station on Burgos most definitely is also. That way if they try to run game on you then just say, fine....but you are way out of line and make sure the girl and the driver back you up. If they actually do try to take you in then be quick to offer up that cash. If they actually get you in the police station the price jumps big time. Something else to remember is they dont want to take you down. They just want to get some cash and let you go and get it over as quick as they can.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue][/size]
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Hotels
I will be in Manila for a week and am looking for guest friendly hotel. Has anyone stayed stayed at Hyatt ? Appreciate any suggestion. Thanks.
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The Hyatt
BadBoy27,
I stayed at the Hyatt Casino last January and must recommend it highly - staff are very helpful and girl friendly - service is good, 5 star all the way - not cheap though, but its got everything - good room service, pool, gym, and the casino attached if you get bored - not likely though!
Just a short stroll to LA Cafe, Robinsons Mall, internet cafes, 7/11, and other clubs in Ermita etc.
I will be going back later this year and thats where I will be staying.
Good luck!
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Hey guys,
I'm trying to a find a nice hotel to stay in.
So far, I've considered these two:
Heritage Hotel
Hyatt Regency Hotel
The price is not too big of a deal. I just want a really nice hotel. Any reccomendations?
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Hotel
I really liked the Pan Pacific on Adriatico in Ermita, but that was 3 years ago at $85/Night including Bkfst; price has gone up some since, try AsiaTravel for latest rates.
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Hyatt
[QUOTE=Ralek]Hey guys,
I'm trying to a find a nice hotel to stay in.
So far, I've considered these two:
Heritage Hotel
Hyatt Regency Hotel
The price is not too big of a deal. I just want a really nice hotel. Any reccomendations?[/QUOTE]
Just read on the net that the Hyatt (Roxas Blvd) will no longer be Hyatt soon. Maybe should re-think staying there.
ES
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I've narrowed it down to:
Diamond Hotel
Pan Pacific Hotel
Diamond looks really nice..and it looks like its in the same area too.
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[QUOTE=Eaglestar]Just read on the net that the Hyatt (Roxas Blvd) will no longer be Hyatt soon. Maybe should re-think staying there.
ES[/QUOTE]
I've stayed three times at the Heritage and I'll never stay there by choice again. The only thing that the place has going for it is its location across the road from the EDSA complex. If price is not much of a factor for you, I'd stay in one of the five stars in Makati.
:D
GE
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The 2 Hyatts
Guys,
Don't be confusing the Hyatt Hotel on Roxas with the much newer and 5 star Hyatt Casino which is in Ermita on Pedro Gil and Mabini - it is 2 blocks from the LA Cafe and Robinsons - well worth the money!! Check it out on the Hyatt website.
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hotel
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I've stayed three times at the Heritage and I'll never stay there by choice again. The only thing that the place has going for it is its location across the road from the EDSA complex. If price is not much of a factor for you, I'd stay in one of the five stars in Makati.
:D
GE[/QUOTE]A nice place is the Hyatt casino on Pedro Gil. 2 blocks from LaCafe and Robinsons mall. Modern clean hotel. Price is around 5 6k php = $90 130 after taxes. Depending on the room. Great place with cutees at the front desk.
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barfines
Hey Blink,
I actually never barfine anyone. I would either do the deed in the VIP rooms in the KTV and/or get their cell numbers while chatting with them. Most often they are open to hooking up with you during the day and if they realy like you they call in sick and just hang with you.
Of course, they expect a little tip at the end of the day. Having sadi that, 1000 Pesos for barfine seems reasonable.
IB
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hello guys,
thanks for the info on MP ilongo_boy and fast eddie48. I will try thos eplaces once Im there.
Even Im not a newbie in PI, I went first time for barfine at Edsa last year and I think I paid to much for the gurls. 2000 to 3000 plus barfine for allnight/short time.
I dont know , but I dont wana ruin a GFE when I barfine the gurl and talk about money before also discuss about bj etc etc. On the other side I also dont want to overpay or gettin bad service.
So lets talk about this. You have made eyecontact to ur future barfine, you invite her for a drink, now u discuss prize and services. She ask for 3 000 short time and 5000 overnight, which isnt unlikely in Edsa and you just offer half of it. So what happens?? Either she will agree, or you have to say gudbye, walk out and try ur luck in the next bar, talk to another gurl, buy another drink, etc etc. So all in all you might waste tme and aditional money for ladydrinks etc etc. I not saying I would spent 5000 p but someting between 2000 and 3000 is reasonable? Or do I pay to much??
Maybe you guys share some experiences in bargaining and get a gud price without losing face and pissing ur future barfine off and spoiling the GFE.
Im talkin about one or two nights in Manila, after that I go to my gf in AC and in AC I have more time and can collect cp numbers etc and I know the price to pay over there, but Manila is a another scenery.
PM or post here and share :)
Happy hunting!![/QUOTE]
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Hotel Info
Copacabana, Next Door to Heritage, is just as close to EDSA complex and half the cost of Heritage (or less). Perfectly adequate, though get a higher floor to reduce noise. I believe it used to be owned by Pablo Cuneta, father of singer Sharon. If you simply must stay in a 5 star Hotel, consider the Westin which is only 5 minutes by taxi, and much quieter. Or Century Park next to Harrison Plaza (also only 5 minutes by taxi to EDSA complex).
Ralek if cost really is no issue, try the MacArthur Suite at the Manila Hotel. Loaded with old World charm (of which Makati has ZERO IMHO!)
I have only stayed in Makati once, and never understood why so many guys seem to prefer it (well I guess it reminds them more of US cities, but I travel to GET AWAY from things American!). HORRIBLE traffic almost always, and farther from the action (unless you frequent PBurgos, in which case the Century Citadel is an unbeatable location for a bargain price).
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Thanks Surfer.
The Westin Hotel looks like a great deal compared to Diamond which is a good $30 more expensive overall.
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I like the Westin. GREAT pool with waterslides, great views of the sunset over Manila Bay. SLIGHT drawback is that it is kind of isolated so you cannot just walk downstairs and be in a mall or what. You will need to take taxis even to get to a sarisari store. GREAT and happening restaurant with a nautical theme just before you to get to Roxas blvd (when heading to EDSA complex from Westrin) is a MUST SEE to meet nonpros (and have a good meal-hotel restaurants are obviously pricey) . Enjoy your trip.
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Hotel info
I agree the Copacabana is alround the best hotel for the money but lacking a gym, much better than Heritage cus this is an apartment hotel, I usually get the 2 bedroom apt cus i like the space it provides. Westin has the best pool in Manila. I will stay at the Oakwood plaza which is the finest apartment hotel in the Philippines and also get the 2 bedroom, living room, kitchen, etc. with the best mall down stairs. 2nd best is the Century plaza a fine apartment hotel as well. Why stay in a 1 room hotel?
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Oh crap.
Looks like the Westin Hotel is no longer there...Now that hotel is called the "Sofitel Philippine Plaza Hotel" or something like that.
[url]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g298573-d301802-Reviews-Sofitel_Hotel_Philippine_Plaza-Manila_National_Capital_Region_Luzon.html[/url]
I read a few reviews which pointed out the experience was really bad.
So when I look up reviews for the Westin Hotel, the reviews are great.
But when I look up reviews for the "Sofitel" Hotel, the reveiws are average to poor.
Can a change in staff/ownership really make a hotel that much worse?
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Does anybody know where to get a HIV test in Manila, if so where, how much and how long does it take to get the results. I already know not to get tested personally here in the PI because they will report you to the govt. and good luck from there.
Thanks
Mook
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Yes
[QUOTE=Ralek]Oh crap.
Looks like the Westin Hotel is no longer there...Now that hotel is called the "Sofitel Philippine Plaza Hotel" or something like that.
[url]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g298573-d301802-Reviews-Sofitel_Hotel_Philippine_Plaza-Manila_National_Capital_Region_Luzon.html[/url]
I read a few reviews which pointed out the experience was really bad.
So when I look up reviews for the Westin Hotel, the reviews are great.
But when I look up reviews for the "Sofitel" Hotel, the reveiws are average to poor.
Can a change in staff/ownership really make a hotel that much worse?[/QUOTE]Yes,They did a lot of changes in staffing,Food and Beverage and standards.You were warned
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edsa shangrila manila
In room massage - 24hrs - anyone got any info?
I searched.
Is it a happy finish etc?
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i answered my own q! yes!
Thats a positive
Had an excellent very cheap massage then at the end I asked if she would massage everything
She said ok but secret and only hand
I said fine
She then proceeded to give me a very reasonable hand job
All in all a good service
Yes it is 24hr too
In fact I had her at 6am then back again 2hrs later
I tipped her $100 because I am rich and stupid and she was a nice girl
I gave her tickets to the concert I am doing here in manila and shes bringing 7 other filipina friends too (typical! They are not shy on a freebie! )
So could be some fun tonight in my room shame I'm leaving tomorrow to korea
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Mook
Mook, I didn't know that they reported the test to the govt. Do they only report the tests that are positive or everybody. Or just the foreigners?
There was a poster a few months ago who said that his mo was to barfine two girls for a week; take them to the doctor and if the results were ok, then he could bareback them for a week. Can't remember his name but its in either one of the Manila sections or AC.
Just as an aside, if the girl has picked up HIV withing six months of the test, it won't show up on the test, but she can still infect. Thats what I understand to be the case.
You might want to start with the girls in the bar. They always tell me about the 'pussy doctor' upstars and how they have to get checked every two weeks or after being barfined. Maybe that doc can give you the name of someone.
Just to show that the barfine bars' system is not all its cracked up to be, a girl I barfined a few weeks ago in the Firehouse (EDSA) had been hired by the bar on a Thursday, tested, and allowed to work immediately, even though the results of her test would not be available until Monday!
On a broader note, I'm curious just how often any mongers pick up something in the Manila bars. Or at all? Its never mentioned here. Do the mongers just go home and lick their wounds? Or is it really that safe.
Don
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HIV, etc
[QUOTE=Dashing Don]Mook, I didn't know that they reported the test to the govt. Do they only report the tests that are positive or everybody. Or just the foreigners?
There was a poster a few months ago who said that his mo was to barfine two girls for a week; take them to the doctor and if the results were ok, then he could bareback them for a week. Can't remember his name but its in either one of the Manila sections or AC.
Just as an aside, if the girl has picked up HIV withing six months of the test, it won't show up on the test, but she can still infect. Thats what I understand to be the case.
You might want to start with the girls in the bar. They always tell me about the 'pussy doctor' upstars and how they have to get checked every two weeks or after being barfined. Maybe that doc can give you the name of someone.
Just to show that the barfine bars' system is not all its cracked up to be, a girl I barfined a few weeks ago in the Firehouse (EDSA) had been hired by the bar on a Thursday, tested, and allowed to work immediately, even though the results of her test would not be available until Monday!
On a broader note, I'm curious just how often any mongers pick up something in the Manila bars. Or at all? Its never mentioned here. Do the mongers just go home and lick their wounds? Or is it really that safe.
Don[/QUOTE]
Hi guys,
not sure if Jackson alow this, but I read ur questions again and again bout HIV etc.
My friend distribute those books and maybe it can bring a litle bit insight in all ur questions about things in PI and HIV, etc etc etc.
Hope that helps.
[url]http://www.book-of-dreams.com/books.htm[/url]
Park I, 100 US $ tip for a handjob, wow , I was thinking Im the stupid guy here , lol, but well, if it was gud, why not. Maybe u get more out of that handjob on ur private room party.
Happy hunting!!
Blink157
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Actually, the test is not for a bar girl, I wouldn't trust the test anyway because of the 6 month rule. You know I've been trying to get my hands on the oral HIV test, it gives results in 20 minutes but it's only available to doctors, at least in the states. Maybe they sell it in the PI.
The test is for a girl I know from 2 years ago, I'm going to recommend her to a friend who wants to get married, he's filipino-american. Anyway, just to be on the safe side, I'm going to get her tested for HIV before introducing them.
Personally, I believe HIV is a bigger problem in the PI than most people think for a couple of reasons.
Filipinos don't use condoms much.
Oversea workers go abroad and come back home in droves.
The Catholic church says not to use them.
About the clinics reporting to the govt. I'm not sure about that but that's what I heard and just in case why risk it and give a real name.
If anybody got the test done in the PI, do you know how long the test takes them.
Heading out the PI next week.. see you all there. :)
Mook
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Guys,
Is the EDSA complex area safe? I'm gonna be staying at the Copacaban by myself for a few nights before I meet up w/ a few friends, and was wondering if it was safe to walk around those streets at night.
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Edsa
[QUOTE=Ralek]Guys,
Is the EDSA complex area safe? I'm gonna be staying at the Copacaban by myself for a few nights before I meet up w/ a few friends, and was wondering if it was safe to walk around those streets at night.[/QUOTE]I thought it was very safe. Hyatt and Heritage hotels are next door.
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Edsa and safety...
There's really no place to walk near the Edsa complex. The bars themselves are all housed within one large building, so all of your walking between bars will be inside. The area is safe and your biggest concern outside will be fending off the hustlers trying to sell you counterfeit viagra and cialis, but there's no reason to walk around as it's all quite compact.
:D
GE
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Ralek, I walk round there at night and never had a problem but use good judgment as in any big city. Walk on Roxas or EDSA, rather than dark side streets. Be careful especially near the underpasses of the road (squatters hang out there). Don't carry valuables or look clueless, and don't talk to strangers who approach you. Walking up Roxas will bring you by several other night clubs but large fleece joints until you get to Visions.
In general, violent crime to a foreigner in that area would be VERY unusual I think But petty theft, or getting conned, could happen in a New York Minute. Don'y play cards, gamble in any way, or buy drugs. Just use common sense and I think you can walk up Roxas without undue danger. I do warn you that the area further up Roxas by the water provides lots of hiding places for bad guys, but the smell alone should deter you from walking THAT part.
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My last 6 or 8 times I have been to Manila I have stayed at The Executive Plaza. I walk the area alot, at all times of the day and night. I have walked to and from LA Cafe, both with a lady and alone,(usually TO LA Cafe alone, and FROM with a lady, lol) I have never felt threatned or in danger. I tend to walk fast, like I know where I am going, and ignore the beggers and sellers.
I was just in Manila, Cebu, and AC, 3 weeks ago and will be back first week of September. Damn I miss it!
[QUOTE=Xtorted Decay]As for the safety of the area, all I can tell you is when the guy I went to manila with (he grew up there) and his cousins saw the area LA Cafe was in, they were horrified that I had gone there alone. I don't know if they were just being over protective or if its really that bad of an area...But most of the filipinos I talk to seem to think its pretty dangerous. However I have been wanting to ask the board's perspective on this also. How bad of an area is it? I havn't seen any posts like "I got beat down/robbed at LA Cafe" so I have to assume its alright.
However I was there a number of times and never had a problem. I even walked down the street to Amazonia (about a block) and had no problem at all, but it was full day light and I had a lady with me. I have a feeling that with all of the westerners that frequent both places, measures are kept to keep them safe. I think the last thing any filipino business owner would want is something discouraging western money from coming to his or her place.[/QUOTE]
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So far my time here in Manila has been wonderful. Thus far I had the pleasure of seeing 4 women. I am currently staying at the Hyatt Casino and Hotel in Malate, a couple of blocks from LA Cafe. The cost of my room is $90 per night excluding breakfast thus I will be transfering to the Traders Hotel down the street where the cost of a night is $68, including breakfast and a view of Manila Bay.
The first time I went out was Friday night, after my long flight from LAX. The fact that there were 3 flights coming from the US West Coast didn't help matter and I had to wait in line at immigration for approximately 20 minutes along with trying to find my bags amidst a bunch of big "balikbayan" boxes made my stay at NAIA last about an hour and a half.
My first night I stayed at the Bellevue Hotel in Alabang. The cost was $70, which includes complimenetary buffet breakfast. I asked a taxi driver to take me to Cafe Havana, since I did not know anyplace in Alabang. The guy charged 400 pesos to take me there, which is about $8. This is fair in the US but not in the PI and the fact that I didn't demand that he turn on the meter gave me no recourse to complain.
Guys, as an advice, demand that the cabs turn on their meter. People will screw you here if you look like a foreigner. Anyway, I just hung out at the Cafe Havana because I didn't want to take a girl to my hotel room in Alabang. I then went to Quezon Avenue and Pegagus. I decided to go to Sylavanus, the massage parlor in the basement of Pegasus, where one can get a massage along with full service for a total of 3000 pesos, about $60, for an hour and 20 minutes.
The girl I chose was Cherry, number 84, a 23 year old from Manila. If you like to have your nipples lick along with your member, I would recommend her since she knows how to use her tongue proficiently. After doing the deed, she gave me her phone number so that I can take her out. I was told by a bellhop at the Hyatt that this is a common practice of girls here in the PI, where they try to find "joiners" or guys who would like to join them when they come to Philippines or during their stay in the PI.
After Sylvanus, I went up the hill to Starduz, where I met the manager Lito. He indicated to me what the process was at the place and I just ordered a bottle of beer so that I can recuperate from my encounter with number 84, Cherry. At the meantime, there were a constant parade of girls on the stage, and I saw the girl who I wanted to take upstairs--Chris, a 20 year old girl from Bacolod.
I then told Lito about her and he went to the back and got her for me. I paid Lito 3500 pesos and he escorted Chris and me upstairs. This is like the place in Monterrey, Mexico, where one can do the deed with the girls at the premises. Instead, however, the girls cost only $70, not $200, like in Poisson.
After doing the deed with Chris, which took the whole hour I was with her, since I just had that encounter with Cherry at Sylvanus, it was already 5 am. I tipped Chris 500 pesos, along with the 500 pesos for Lito, and took a cab back to Alabang. I had to asked about 3 drivers to turn on their meter to go back there because they just would not do it. They would quote me a price of 500 pesos. They guy who I selected turned his meter on and the price to going to Alabang cost me only 250 pesos, or $5.
I can afford to pay $10 but the principle of treating everyone fairly is what I am after. I will write about my encounter with the girls at Starfleet and East Asia at later time since my time is up at this internet cafe. I had writter a previous post but could not post me on time since my time ran out.
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Hey Sun Devil and others..
What makes you guys not just give what you know is a fair price for the taxi ride after you get out. If my driver doesn't turn on his meter, I just give him what I know is a fair price and leave, nobody ever chased me down, tell them to call the police then... anybody have any bad experiences doing this.. I'll be there next week.. see you all there.
Mook
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After my excursion to Quezon City, the next day I attended the wedding of my cousin at this church in Ayala Alabang and we proceeded to have the reception dinner at the Bellevue. This lasted about 11 pm and members of the wedding party went up to the 20/20 Club where I noticed a couple of possible working girls. I figured they were working girls because they were talking to a couple of guys who were alone earlie, plus they had their gay pimp sitting between them.
The gay pimp then went to the bathroom and I followed him so that I could negotiate with him without offending the two guys. His price for them was 25,000 pesos! I couldn't believe. They were totally hot chicks but there is no way I am going to pay $500 when there is a plethora of good looking women in this city, all available at a lesser price.
Not being able to satisfy my urge, I suggested to a couple of guys at the wedding party to go to a massage parlor and one of them suggested Starfleet. We went to Starfleet and because it was already 3 am, we were given the discount price of 2000 pesos for a massage.
I chose number 15, Geenie, and, after giving her the 2000 peso tip, she gave me a really good and soapy Thai massage. I would recommend this girl if you like them slim with a nice size pair of breasts. The massage lasted a while and then we proceeded to do the deed on the wet plastic mattress on the shower floor, not the bed. Afterwards, she gave me her phone number and asked that I call her if I wanted to do any outcall services.
The next day I checked out from the Bellevue Hotel and travelled cross town to the Hyatt in Malate. This is a 5 star hotel in a somewhat dumpy neighborhood. The good thing about is that it is close to the LA Cafe and Mabini street, where there is a lot of available girls. I soon met up with Alfred, one of the guys working outside responsible for getting cabs for the guests. I asked him where I can get some good quality Filipino food and at a fair price and he suggested the Aristocrat.
In addition, I asked him where some quality working girls are available like those working at Pegasus and he mentioned East Asia. He said that he will be off soon and that he will follow me at the Aristocrat after work. When he met me at the Aristocrat, Alfred said that the higher class girls work at East Asia, which is just a couple of blocks away.
After finishing my meal, we went to East Asia, which resembles Mystic in Quezon City in decor and stage arrangement. After looking in the fishbowl, I chose a pretty 19 year old girl from Cebu, Chanel. The cost at this place for a girl to see with you and talk is 695 pesos, plus there is a cover charge of 500 pesos per person. The take out fee is 8000 pesos, which includes sex at your hotel.
This was all explained to me by Shyn, the manager at East Asia. After a couple of hours, I decided to take Chanel, who works there as a model, meaning she just models cocktail dresses on the stage instead of dancing, to my hotel at the Hyatt. The cost was 8000, plus the drinks and companionship hours that Alfred and I consumed at the place.
Being a generous person, I opted to pay for Alfred's portion of the bill, which included a couple of companionshp hours for him by a girl named Alex, a friend of Chanel, along with his orange juice. When I took Chanel back to my hotel, I forgot to tell the taxi driver to turn on the meter and he charged me 300 pesos to drive a couple of blocks. I didn't want to look cheap in front of Chanel so I paid that amount, but these drivers are such assholes to do this.
I took Chanel to my room and she stayed there for about 3 hours. The funny thing was that after performing oral sex on her, she literally exploded, with a small amount of fluid gushing from her vagina along with a popping sound like she farted from there. Aferwards, while we were changing, she told me that she should be the only girl that I go select at East Asia and she gave me her phone number. I told her that I could not do that since I like a variety of chicks, so when I escorted her down to the lobby, she was very quiet, almost sad. Oh well, c'est la vie.
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I moved from the Hyatt to Trader's Hotel yesterday. Granted it is not a 5 star hotel like the Hyatt but Trader's is much more convenient to mongering since East Asia is just a walk away, plus they have an internet cafe in front called the Coffee.Com. The cost for 30 minutes is 85 pesos, plus they have coffee and snacks. Additionally, the view in front of the hotel is much nicer, with the convention center out front and the Baywalk as well.
For my 5th girl in Manila, I again went to East Asia. I had planned to go to Makati or Quezon City last night but the rain sort of gave me second thoughts. Being from Arizona, the rain that they are having right now is like a hurricane but of course it is the rainy season here, which is from June to August, like the US summer.
Anyway, with my umbrella in hand, I walked the couple of blocks to East Asia. Everyone seems to remember me from the night before. Shyn, one of the managers, came to my table and asked whether I wanted a girl to see at the fishbowl. We both went there and I chose a girl with a full figured girl named Divine (I love their working names here).
Divine works as a dancer but when she danced she did not take any of her clothes off. I guess this is an option for the girl. I think their motivation in taking their clothes is to entice some of the customers to barfine them or have them sit by the table so that they can make money. According to Divine, she makes about 300 pesos a night, which is less than $10!
We talked for about 2 hours because her personality was so great and as I was leaving Shyn told me that I can take Divine to one of the rooms for an in-call service for 4000 pesos. I jumped at this opportunity and was escorted to one of the side rooms. It has a queen sized mattress on the floor with no linen, in addition to a TV. Anyway, after doing the deed with Divine, I stayed until around 4:15 AM and walked back to my hotel. Divine gave me her phone number and told me to call her the next day.
God, it is so easy to score here! And these are some prime looking women I am scoring with. The hard part is choosing which girl to select.
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Traders hotel
Sundevil
I checked out of traders last week. it was originally a holidayinn. I stayed there on my very first night on my first ever night in Asia in 1989.
When i checked in last week and as they only had a smoking room avail in a reg floor they offered me a club floor at $30 extra per night ($38 incl taxes)as i had already a prepaid regular floor at an unbelievable lowrate off the jetstar website although i never flew with them. for the club floor i got 24/7 internet in my room, free breakfast, club lounge snacks between 2-4pm and 6-8pm and an exclusive restaurant for club members on the top floor.
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wow
Sounds like the barfine you describe is on the way up.Sounds like the fool and his money are soon parted.8 thousand barfine for shorttime thats unreal.I would never and have ever paid that kind of money in manila or makati.Even when the high tourist season is in play. This is rainy season not many guys over there now,why pay that kind of loot now.Sounds like the sillappines they raise the barfine now and lower it when the busy season gets here.They never use common sense over there that's why they will never be any better off than they are now over there.8000 peso's that's for short time (3hours) what the fuck are you guys thinking.You should of given or taken the number of a cell phone and called after work.I am sure you could of had the chick for 4-5 thousand for the night.Fuck giving the bar any money, do they let you drink for free???????????
B.B...
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Has anyone gone to Skyline massage parlor on Roxas Boulevard? I want to just verify that it is still at the Grand Hotel.
Bill, thanks for the advice. I will try to do that in the future but I have a budget of $200 per night for play so 8000 pesos was no big deal. Carlos Perez in Monterrey pretty much told me the same thing when I was in Mexico.
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I followed the advice of Bill and asked for the girl's phone number so that I get her at my hotel for a discount early this morning (it is now 7 am in the PI). I called her at my hotel after I left East Asia and we made an arrangement for a rendezvous at 6 am.
Guess what, the girl did not show as planned and stood me up!! Maybe she broke a leg on her way to my hotel or had a date planned with another customer but she sure left me high and dry.
I sure save a lot of money by not going through the official channel. I also did not get to have sex with any girl. At least through the mamasan, even though it cost from 4000 to 8000 pesos, if the girl does not put out, at least the customer has recourses and can complain to her.
Luckily for me, I was able to locate the Skyline massage parlor prior to me going to East Asia. It is now called Mercury Massage and it is located on the 8th floor of the Grand Boulevard Hotel, next to the Aristocrat Restaurant, on Roxas Boulevard.
They are open 24/7 and, thanks to their hours, I won't be detered from my goal of having a different girl each day I am in the PI.
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roxas massage
Sun Devil, Have you done the deed yet at the boluvard. are the girls maganda and how much for the massage and extras.
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Just Trying To Help
[QUOTE=Sun Devil]Has anyone gone to Skyline massage parlor on Roxas Boulevard? I want to just verify that it is still at the Grand Hotel.
Bill, thanks for the advice. I will try to do that in the future but I have a budget of $200 per night for play so 8000 pesos was no big deal. Carlos Perez in Monterrey pretty much told me the same thing when I was in Mexico.[/QUOTE]
I know you must be creative when passing out your number.You can put the number on some 20 notes and tell the gal it is there and that way no one is the wiser.Try sitting at Matrix on P burgos street,The amount of gals going in and out of the bars is unreal.They are all around after 2-3 am when work gets done.If they were unlucky at the bar they will be glad to take 500-1000 peso's for the rest of the night.Most all hit the 7-11 and the filling station restaurant for some chow before getting a cab for home.The area is busy from 8-pm until daylight and Matrix has ok food at a good price."SHRIMP SCAMPIE FOR 3 BUCKS".REMEMBER there are lots of bakla "billy boys"around the area in drag so be on alert.
You will also get some street guys wanting you to pay them for gals.This is OK just make sure they look old enough and never pay what they want.500 is plenty for what they do I would give 2-3 hundred If it was me.
Just buy a soda or other beverage and watch the show.I never had any problems outside there and you will get lots of attention for sure.
Have fun and keep the prices down.
B.B...
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After my fiasco of getting a girl to my hotel room after hours, I decided to go to Mercury Massage (formerly Skyline) at the Grand Boulevard Hotel, which is just a couple of blocks from the Traders Hotel. The prices are 1,200 pesos for a massage between 6 am to 6 pm, and 1400 pesos between 6 pm to 6 am.
There were some doable girls at the place and I chose Cherry, a new girl from Bacolod. For a new girl, her skills at massaging was fairly good, especially considering I had worked out my chest and back the day before.
Because I was still pissed from my experience at East Asia, when she asked for a 2,000 peso tip prior to giving extra services, i.e. oral and vaginal sex, I countered with 1,000 pesos. She tried to lower the price a couple of times, ranging from 1,300 to 1,500 pesos, but I would not budge. Consequently, she agreed to the price, thus I only paid 2,200 pesos for massage and sex.
In hindsight, it was not Cherry's fault that I got stood up, but being screwed so many times by various local people finally got to me.
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Rip Off
S.D.
You will be ripped off by everyone if you are not on your guard at all times.Thats the nature of the beast so don't worry it's not you.Remember you are a foreigner and it's there job to get money from us when we are there...
BB...
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Have fun in the PI Sun Devil but stay away from the CHEAP pussy.
[QUOTE=Sun Devil]After my fiasco of getting a girl to my hotel room after hours, I decided to go to Mercury Massage (formerly Skyline) at the Grand Boulevard Hotel, which is just a couple of blocks from the Traders Hotel. The prices are 1,200 pesos for a massage between 6 am to 6 pm, and 1400 pesos between 6 pm to 6 am.
There were some doable girls at the place and I chose Cherry, a new girl from Bacolod. For a new girl, her skills at massaging was fairly good, especially considering I had worked out my chest and back the day before.
Because I was still pissed from my experience at East Asia, when she asked for a 2,000 peso tip prior to giving extra services, i.e. oral and vaginal sex, I countered with 1,000 pesos. She tried to lower the price a couple of times, ranging from 1,300 to 1,500 pesos, but I would not budge. Consequently, she agreed to the price, thus I only paid 2,200 pesos for massage and sex.
In hindsight, it was not Cherry's fault that I got stood up, but being screwed so many times by various local people finally got to me.[/QUOTE]
Many people in this forum will suggest ways of saving a few pesos here or there and their advise is generally sound. However, be careful when trying to save money on pussy. Buying "street puss" at 200-300 pesos (1/10th the going rate) is risky (disease, robbery, etc.). If I was you, I would stick with the proven venues and pay a little bit more than what you would pay for street puss. You'll be much safer and like you said, you have recourse if the girl rips you off or leaves you hanging.
IMHO,
Guinness
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Paying Too much Does NOT Get You Better Service
The babae can tell who knows the scene and who is a clueless sex tourist fresh off the jet. Unlike some who will gladly pay 2500 pisos PLUS TIP for two hours with a Filipina with a body reminescent of American women (see Dannah Mae folder), better looking girls can be had for way less than half of that if you avoid places mainly patronized by foreigners and if you BARGAIN. The girls will take all your money if you let them, but they respect you more if you know enough to bargain. This applies to EVERYTHING in the PI. Those who just accept the first offer really do "pay too much" but you don't need to be one of them Sun Devil. Bill Buxton is right that most hookers and mamasans will rip you off IF YOU LET THEM!
East Asia and all those Roxas places except Visions are clip joints praying on the clueless (of which there are many including some here on this forum dispensing advice). Go to fleece joints expect to be fleeced. Even EDSA complex is much better than those Roxas ripoffs. But if you insist on spending $200 per day on women then go to Pegasus and get a real stunner!
If you are a bit adventurous, I also urge you to get away from Manila to get GFE at much better prices than in Makati/Manila and to have a more authentic Philippine experience.
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I Agree With Guinness that Street Girls for 200P Are Iffy
there is a happy middle ground between bottom of the barrell skanks and overpriced prima donnas.
I disagree with Guinness that there is ONE "going rate"; IMHO there are SEVERAL rates. EVERYTHING is subject to negotiation, and the "going rate" you will be charged depends largely on their perception of your ABILITY TO PAY. Being a foreigner you are ALREADY marked as "rich and foolish", but you can minimize the "foolish" part by doing research and avoiding notorious clip joints (e.g. East Asia), dressing nice but not over the top (leave the bling at home!), learning at least a few key Tagalog phrases like machado mahal (too expensive), and, most importantly, do NOT appear too eager or anxious for a particular girl. Also, if you stay in 5 star hotels, the girls will often expect to be paid more thinking you ae a big spender.
Play it cool and be patient, and SMILE when you bargain (raising your voice or getting forceful will merely cause them to lose any respect for you they might have otherwise had), and they will reduce their price 95% of the time.
IMHO, a savy monger can find that fine line between being "cheap" (koriput) and being "foolish" (bobo) and thus maximize quality pekpek for your pera ($).
Finally, I am happy to see that Guinness has FINALLY realized that members can disagree and express divergent opinions without resorting to juevenile namecalling and slander. Let us hope his epiphany is not merely temporary.
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Negotiating prices
I'm not sure how this comes up. I never mention prices beforehand and the girls in the PI have never mentioned it to me either. It spoils the mood and I'm only going to pay what I want to pay anyway. And usually I'm generous as I want both of us to have a good time. If anyone did mention prices, I would drop them immediately. The prices in PI are so low anyway that who cares. Whats the upside to haggling? None that I can see.
I've never gone to those high priced KTV places on Roxas and probably never will. EDSA is just fine with a 1K barfine.
Usually I stay in Makati and then its a short 7-10 minute taxi ride to EDSA. The meter must be turned on and seldom costs more than 80 peso. If they don't want to turn it on, I open the door even though we're moving. At that point they either put the meter on or they pull over real fast. If they really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off, I'll get out and leave the door open. Then they have to get out to close it. I never worry about their being a confrontation over this because it will never happen. They know they have been caught trying to rip me off and dont have a leg to stand on. Within a minute or two, I'm in the next cab.
Which brings me to that never ending topic......five-star hotels.
The girls never look for more money because you are at a five star hotel and are thus considered 'rich' or 'foolish' or a 'dumb sex tourist'. That smacks of an adversarial situation. I've had a few difficult situations but infrequently. More often, they are happy to be there and I'm happy to have them. But the great thing about staying at a good hotel with a good lobby and pool is that it becomes a destination in and of itself. When I call internet girls we always meet in the hotel lobby. They are eager to come there, and I sure as hell am not going to taxi out to the sticks. Also, if you have had a great time with a barfine which sometimes happens, you can keep her around and have her bring her friends over. Several times, I've had a barfine and her friends come over and frolic in the pool which can be great fun and then take one of them up to your room if so inclined. So its not just about the nightly rate. There's other things to consider.
Don
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Good info
[QUOTE=Surfer]there is a happy middle ground between bottom of the barrell skanks and overpriced prima donnas.
I disagree with Guinness that there is ONE "going rate"; IMHO there are SEVERAL rates. EVERYTHING is subject to negotiation, and the "going rate" you will be charged depends largely on their perception of your ABILITY TO PAY. Being a foreigner you are ALREADY marked as "rich and foolish", but you can minimize the "foolish" part by doing research and avoiding notorious clip joints (e.g. East Asia), dressing nice but not over the top (leave the bling at home!), learning at least a few key Tagalog phrases like machado mahal (too expensive), and, most importantly, do NOT appear too eager or anxious for a particular girl. Also, if you stay in 5 star hotels, the girls will often expect to be paid more thinking you ae a big spender.
Play it cool and be patient, and SMILE when you bargain (raising your voice or getting forceful will merely cause them to lose any respect for you they might have otherwise had), and they will reduce their price 95% of the time.
IMHO, a savy monger can find that fine line between being "cheap" (koriput) and being "foolish" (bobo) and thus maximize quality pekpek for your pera ($).
Finally, I am happy to see that Guinness has FINALLY realized that members can disagree and express divergent opinions without resorting to juevenile namecalling and slander. Let us hope his epiphany is not merely temporary.[/QUOTE]
I will be in town Sunday and the negotiation style each uses is there own.Be nice and like others said here never pay what they want.
"Pegasus" where is this place????????What is the barfine there and when you say stunner how much for how long.
I have had bad service for a c-note and great service for 20 dollars so go figure.
Anything you do to stand out here is just gonna cost you money,The 5 star hotel deal is right on.They will figure you can afford it so lets charge him this much.You gotta give these gals credit they try all the time, some times they score big, and sometimes WE hit paydirt.The art of the deal.
Just always remember they all think we just got off the stupid boat and will try to take all they can...
B.B...
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Looking for local information on Batangas
Hi,
I have never been to the philipines but have been talking with a girl who lives in Batangas, 60 miles south of Manila, for a year and a half now and was looking advice from someone who knows the area people very well.
My questions are essetially about local politics, and social norms, not about mongering. I dont think she is a working girl but I have my suspicions. I am considering visting her, but I have heard horror stories of stupid tourists being scamed, arrested, or murdered. Over the past year a lot of things have been said to set off my scam-radar.
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Don & Guinness: You see we CAN interact, and even disagree, while maintaining decorum and civility. I am sure Jackson will be THRILLED!
I used to do very well at EDSA Don, and we agree on the Roxas clip joints. It has been 2 years since I was there but my friend who goes every other month (he lives in BKK so he KNOWS the scene) says that roundeye customers are getting rarer and rarer and that the Japanese are the dominant client base nowadays. Have you noticed an increase in Japanese customers at EDSA?
BB: Pegasus is in Quezon City and is home of the "Peggy Sues", among the very elite of Filipina GROs. It is SO upscale you MUST weat a suit jacket to enter (though sometimes they will lend you one). My recollection was BFs were like 8,000-10,000 but that was many years ago and I did not partake. I doubt it would be your kind of place but guys with money to burn (like SunDevil) might enjoy it.
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Asians at EDSA
Its true. I couldn't help noticing it a few weeks ago. I was in Samba, Cotton Club and Firehouse, and on several different occasions. In each bar the clientele was about eighty percent asian.
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Even back in the 90s there was always that Japanese karaoke off to the side of the EDSA complex. I assume 99% of their clients are Japanese but I never went to verify it. Where numbers of Japanese men go, prices inexorably increase.
You mentioned 1,000Piso BF at EDSA and my recall was that it was 600P just two years ago (but I could be mistaken and that might have been farther back).
Cotton Club always charged a premium for the girls in the pink cowboy outfits and hats, but I never thought they were any better looking than the regulars.
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Last time I paid a barfine at Edsa was Jan 2005 and it was 1000 then.
A lot of girls who dont get bf'ed at Edsa normally end up at LA Cafe at 2-3am and their rate really comes down then.
Was in Blue Nile in AC last night and that bar could fit in at Edsa, so many woman and mostly all maganda. Tis a pity as im on a two week date and my butterfly instints will have to wait until i get to BKK.
Why is it when u r with somebody you find so many woman u could easily pay the barfine but when with noone you struggle to find a adequate barfine sometimes.
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Sun Devil,
IMHO you have way overpaid for the services. 8,000 pesos for short time ( 3 hours ) and to this you still have to add the entrance fee of 500 pesos and the 695 pesos conversation fee = over 9,000 pesos!
You say you stayed at the Hyatt which is near LA Cafe but don't say anything about going there. You can get an 8 or 9 for overnight for 1,500 to 2,000 pesos.
The price you paid for Skyline ( now Mercury ) is about right as the going rate to the girl for extra is about the same as the room rate and this is what you paid = 1,100 pesos for the room plus 1,100 pesos for the girl.
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We finally have a sunny day in Manila and it looks like I will try to head out to the top two massage parlors here--Air Force One and Starfleet and Paranaque due to the nice weather.
Apparently, the Japanese have some investments on Roxas Boulevard because there is a hotel next to mine that caters to Japanenese tourists as indictated by some Filipinos here.
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Batangas?
[QUOTE=Shy Zone Guy]Hi,
I have never been to the philipines but have been talking with a girl who lives in Batangas, 60 miles south of Manila, for a year and a half now and was looking advice from someone who knows the area people very well.
My questions are essetially about local politics, and social norms, not about mongering. I dont think she is a working girl but I have my suspicions. I am considering visting her, but I have heard horror stories of stupid tourists being scamed, arrested, or murdered. Over the past year a lot of things have been said to set off my scam-radar.[/QUOTE]Are you talking about scams, arrests, and murders in Batangas specifically or in the Philippines in general? Is this info from the girl or from independent sources? I will be going to Batangas just for fun later this month (a women where I work is from there so I will look up some of her relatives while scoping out the area). It is supposed to have some nice beaches and resorts. I think my co-worker would have warned me if there were numerous tourist murders occuring. If you have any worries just make her take a bus to meet you in Manila. Scams are everywhere in the Phils, but are no problem if you are half-way alert. Just go meet her.
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Batangas
On my recent trip, I rented a car and driver and went with an internet girl on a day trip to Batangas. We were trying to locate a dive resort in Anilao which I think is in the city/province?? of Batangas. Well, we drove for hours and couldn't locate the place. The are looked rough. At one point we traveled several miles on a small road which skirted the sea. There was trash everywhere; small houses hugging the coastline and a lot of trash in the adjacent water.
We did manage to locate an area which had a few 'resorts'. I can't remember the name of the town but these resorts had really awful facilities and the sand resembled dust. I can't imagine any westerner wanting to stay there.
We covered a lot of ground and I didn't see anything worth visiting. This echoed my experience on another trip where I likewise hired a car/driver and went with an internet girl to Tagatay and Lake Taal which is closeby Batangas and which we traversed. Nothing there but poor people eking out a living and overpopulated.
Don
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[QUOTE=Dashing Don]We covered a lot of ground and I didn't see anything worth visiting. This echoed my experience on another trip where I likewise hired a car/driver and went with an internet girl to Tagatay and Lake Taal which is closeby Batangas and which we traversed. Nothing there but poor people eking out a living and overpopulated.
Don[/QUOTE]That's interesting, glad you mentioned it. I had been thinking of a day trip out to Lake Taal and its volcano, but maybe it's better to think of an alternate destination for a day trip outside of Manila.
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Knowing where to go
[QUOTE=Dashing Don]On my recent trip, I rented a car and driver and went with an internet girl on a day trip to Batangas. We were trying to locate a dive resort in Anilao which I think is in the city/province?? of Batangas. Well, we drove for hours and couldn't locate the place. The are looked rough. At one point we traveled several miles on a small road which skirted the sea. There was trash everywhere; small houses hugging the coastline and a lot of trash in the adjacent water.
We did manage to locate an area which had a few 'resorts'. I can't remember the name of the town but these resorts had really awful facilities and the sand resembled dust. I can't imagine any westerner wanting to stay there.
We covered a lot of ground and I didn't see anything worth visiting. This echoed my experience on another trip where I likewise hired a car/driver and went with an internet girl to Tagatay and Lake Taal which is closeby Batangas and which we traversed. Nothing there but poor people eking out a living and overpopulated.
Don[/QUOTE]The secret is knowing where to go,Most of the best beaches have been turned into private resorts not open to the Public,Such as Punta Fuego,Terrazas de Punta Fuego,Kawayan Cove all members only filled with the Manila elite.The Farm at San Benito Spa which is a several hundred million peso development and one of the top 5 Spas in Asia is In Lipa City Batangas,Club Malarayat is a great golf course in Batangas,Members only.Check out these Websites and tell me there is NOTHING in Batangas [url]www.thefarm.com.ph[/url] or [url]www.aquareefclub.com[/url] and [url]www.scubaworld.com[/url] for dive resorts or for a nice 5 star hotel in Batangas [url]www.pontefino.com.ph[/url] Cheers
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where is this place
I have never had the pleasure of the place called PEGESUS, where is it.What is the bf and are all the gals nice or what.
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Thanks for the info CL.
I checked out the websites you provided and they look nice. I am surprised that there is diving considering the large population in that area.
The Pontefino hotel looks super.
Its a surprise because the whole Batangas area looked so underpriveleged but there you go.
BTW, in an earlier post, I asked if you make travel arrangements rather than just providing info, but I didn't hear back from you and when I pm'd you your box was full. I'm sure there are other people here besides myself who would avail of your services.
Don
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ATm, money changer
Hi guys,
flying tomrow to PI, staying at Bayview Park hotel along Roxas boulevard.
I did a search on moneychangers in ermita area but only one post shows up with no info about location. Can somebody give directions . Im familar with the area, swagman hotel, etc, but was always passing the last years cause straight to makati or AC, so any info on ATM or moneychanger could be helpfull.
Im gona meet a gurl from AC who I chatted at a camsite to meet me up at swagman hotel (very pretty). I will post a report here after I met her :).
IM very exited now to get back. Any info also about that is welcome ,also pm.
Happy hunting!!!
Blink
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Pegasus for BIll, Moneychanger for Blink
Bill: Got this for you (I am not the author)
The KTV with the prettiest selection. But definitely the most expensive. I went there “solo flight” and ended up with a P10,000 tab! However, the GRO I got (her stage name was Rain) was an 18-year old student, drop-dead gorgeous with lovely almond-shaped eyes, long legs, soft lips, a smooth ivory-toned body with the curves to boot. Her service also was fantastic and the stuff of fantasies.
Typically, the GROs (or Peggy Sues) follow a three-tiered cost. Standard is P1100/hour. Models are P1200/hour. Centerfold is P1500/hour. Needless to say, centerfolds are the prettiest but they also have the tendency to be choosy on who they provide “extra service” to. Best to check with the GRM on the attitude. Extra service is typically P5000 but you have to cover for the girl’s two-hour minimum. Bar fine is typically P15,000 to P20,000.
Rooms are pretty standard with a comfortable couch, karaoke TV, coffee table. Minimum rate is P3000.
Pegasus is located in Quezon Avenue, corner Chuatuco Street. You can call +632-412-3563; +632-374-3957, +632-371-9605, or +63-916-300-3519. Or visit their website at [url]http://pegasus.ktvphil.com[/url].
Blink: If you search back I wrote detailed directions to THE best moneychanger in the PI bar none for MANY years. It is right next to Malate Pension on Adriatico just North of Remedios Circle
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money charger
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi guys,
flying tomrow to PI, staying at Bayview Park hotel along Roxas boulevard.
I did a search on moneychangers in ermita area but only one post shows up with no info about location. Can somebody give directions . Im familar with the area, swagman hotel, etc, but was always passing the last years cause straight to makati or AC, so any info on ATM or moneychanger could be helpfull.
Im gona meet a gurl from AC who I chatted at a camsite to meet me up at swagman hotel (very pretty). I will post a report here after I met her :).
IM very exited now to get back. Any info also about that is welcome ,also pm.
Happy hunting!!!
Blink[/QUOTE]
to blink
Manila is the easiest place in the world change money , There are over 50
place in malate alone offer better rate than the bank but use your common
sense don't get taking by hustler that promise you best rate on the st, go to
a money charger that you see other local use rate is about 53 peso to 1 usd
and only take large bill 1000 and count them.
Good luck with your online chat girl hope you get some actions , The one I
got on my last trip is very disapointing .
fast eddie 48
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[QUOTE=Surfer]Bill: Got this for you (I am not the author)
The KTV with the prettiest selection. But definitely the most expensive. I went there “solo flight” and ended up with a P10,000 tab! However, the GRO I got (her stage name was Rain) was an 18-year old student, drop-dead gorgeous with lovely almond-shaped eyes, long legs, soft lips, a smooth ivory-toned body with the curves to boot. Her service also was fantastic and the stuff of fantasies.
Typically, the GROs (or Peggy Sues) follow a three-tiered cost. Standard is P1100/hour. Models are P1200/hour. Centerfold is P1500/hour. Needless to say, centerfolds are the prettiest but they also have the tendency to be choosy on who they provide “extra service” to. Best to check with the GRM on the attitude. Extra service is typically P5000 but you have to cover for the girl’s two-hour minimum. Bar fine is typically P15,000 to P20,000.
Rooms are pretty standard with a comfortable couch, karaoke TV, coffee table. Minimum rate is P3000.
Pegasus is located in Quezon Avenue, corner Chuatuco Street. You can call +632-412-3563; +632-374-3957, +632-371-9605, or +63-916-300-3519. Or visit their website at [url]http://pegasus.ktvphil.com[/url].
Blink: If you search back I wrote detailed directions to THE best moneychanger in the PI bar none for MANY years. It is right next to Malate Pension on Adriatico just North of Remedios Circle[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info 3-4 hundred and thats all night????"barfine"???
Steep,but still cheeper than a call girl in the us thats what they want per hour here.
Thanks again...
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Surfer
Not to be lame but where is the money changer at???MANILA.
Thanks, B.B...
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Just past Malate Pension at Remedios Circle. For the EXACT directions you'll have to search the forum because I am not taking the time tro write it again, sorry.
Also, word from those in the know (guys who live there) is that Pegasus is no longer the bomb (been more than 5 years since I went to Pegasus) .
"The best lookers in my own opinion can be found at Heartbeat, Classmates, and Air Force-1. Pegasus has the best and plushiest couches and amenities, and used to have the best looking women. Alas, these last 3 years, I feel disappointed at the quality."
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ok
[QUOTE=Surfer]Just past Malate Pension at Remedios Circle. For the EXACT directions you'll have to search the forum because I am not taking the time tro write it again, sorry.
Also, word from those in the know (guys who live there) is that Pegasus is no longer the bomb (been more than 5 years since I went to Pegasus) .
"The best lookers in my own opinion can be found at Heartbeat, Classmates, and Air Force-1. Pegasus has the best and plushiest couches and amenities, and used to have the best looking women. Alas, these last 3 years, I feel disappointed at the quality."[/QUOTE]
Thanks again for the info.
B.B...
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Lake Taal
Finrod,
I don't want to discourage you from going to Lake Taal. You just need a driver that knows the area.
Near the lake, the road climbs up into a mountainous area with nice views and hotels. Its a little cooler there and quite nice. Now we had planned on going to the place where you can get a banca out to the volcano which apparently is in the middle of the lake but at that point, our driver got lost. We spent about two hours on a dirt road alongside the lake, where the fishermen live and work, bouncing up and down, and by the time we got back on a driveable road, it was time to go home.
My driver also got lost on the recent trip to Anilao despite assuring me that he knew the place, so at this point I don't know about these day trips. Maybe its better to let the hotel arrange it even though it will be more expensive.
Don
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Excellent info. Thanks! I am fortunate in that my connections there are good and that, of course, is always the best way to get to know an area. I knew there were some resorts, but I didn't realize how many and that they were all upscale.
On another tack, what is the danger there from typhoons? I am not worried about my trip, but I am interested to know if these beach-front resorts get periodically wiped out or if their southern exposure keeps them out of most of the trouble from storm surge.
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I visited Air Force One and Starfleet yesterday. Prior to that I also went to the Mall of Asia, purportedly the biggest one in the continent and hoping to scan some semi-pros or at least buy some nice shoes or clothes. However, while the mall was big enough, I did not see anybody worth chasing plus there were no Rustan in the place.
I then took a taxi from there to Paranaque. On the way, I saw some of the most dipilated houses and neighborhoods when the driver took a short cut. Took some pictures to show my friends in the US to prove how poor life is in the PI for the regular people.
Air Force One costs 1200 for a 90 minute massage from 1 pm to 7 pm. I checked Starfleet prior to going to Air Force One but the girls that they had were not good looking enough and the only that was I already had last year.
At Air Force One, I chose a 19 year old student who is studying business at the University of Manila. It was her 4th day and I was her 6th customer. I joked that, since her tag was D-4, they chose their tag numbers based on the number of days they have been working at the place and I wanted to see how bedraggled number D-100 looked.
As befitting a girl with lack of experience, she was super tight, which is a good thing. Luckily, since I have been on a rampage with girls, I was able to last fairly long with her, in spite of her tight pussy. In addition, her bubbly personality was a plus, and so we passed over the time limit without realizing it.
My session with her lasted for 2 hours. We had a call from management to indicate that this indeed was the time and I told them that they should have called earlier because there was no clock in the room, the girl did not have a watch, and that I did not know the time when we first started. The manager then asked if he could talk with the girl.
Apparently, during the conversation, she was informed that the over the 90 minute limit was going to be taken from her. Feeling sorry for her, I volunteered to pay for her sake and gave management 600 pesos but warned them that they should call when the time was up, not rely on the girl to inform the customer about it since that would be a turn off. No monger likes a clock watcher.
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[QUOTE=Sun Devil]I visited Air Force One and Starfleet yesterday.
Air Force One cost 1200 for a 90 minute massage from 1 pm to 7 pm.[/QUOTE]Nice report. This was an all inclusive rate for full service? Was it dependent on the early time of day (is it more expensive later)? What size tip is the girl expecting in a place like this?
Thanks in advance.
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Peakview:
The price of 1,200 pesos I quoted is the massage only. It is a given that, if you want full service, the cost will be the same amount as the massage. So, in this case, the tip for full service was 1200 pesos. The total for me was 2400 pesos, an amount less than $50.
The reason for the 1,200 pesos costs was it was a promo due to the early hours. After 7 pm, the cost will jump to 2,000 pesos, plus a 2,000 pesos tip for full service. So, it will be a total of 40,000 pesos for full service and massage after 7 pm, a price of $80.
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I am finding the location of the Traders Hotel will soon make it as my place of stay here in the PI in the future. There is a plethora of KTVs on Roxas Blvd. Last night, I went to the Asia Entertainment complex, which is near Victory Hill and Flamingo, and just past the Heritage Hotel.
When I got in, I saw a 5'11 model being escorted out by her American client. Just my luck, I certainly would have picked her if she was available. I find out from one of the mamasans, they are called floor managers here in the PI, that the client is from Illinois. Anyway, the cost for this place is a tad bit higher than that of East Asia. It costs 800+ for an hour of conversation with the girls, 500 pesos for an entrance fee, and 10,000 pesos for barfine.
I chose a girl from Leyte, named Michelle, but her actual name is Derosa, and made an arrangement with the manager for an all nighter until 10 am with her at my hotel. I paid the 10,000 pesos and took her back to Traders. Unfortunately, she started getting nervous and would not put out once we were in the room (maybe she because she saw my penis).
Since I went throught the official channel, I called the floor manager to complain about Michelle's change of heart and the floor manager had a talk with Michelle over the phone. The floor manager then talked to me and indicated that Michelle should be okay. As soos as I hung up, Michelle reverted back to her original attitude and almost started to cry. She pleaded mercy that she would be docked a 10,000 peso penalty and that she might not be able to work in Asia Entertainment again.
Because of various occasssions of being cheated by the locals, I told Michelle that we were going back to Asia Entertainment immediately. I got dressed (Michelle did not take any of her clothes off) and when we got back to the KTV, I demanded my 10,000 pesos back from the floor manager.
Unfortunately, because I had used my credit card, she could not return my money and cash and pleaded that I choose another girl. I then went back to the fishbowl, while Michelle slowly walked back to the locker room to change. I chose a girl by the name of Rain, and she provided a GFE, included BBJ and DFK.
The surprising thing was that Rain did not lose her virginity until January 13, 2006, at the age of 18 (she is 19 years old now), and from a client in Puerta Gallera. I guess women remember the exact date of their first time. I certainly don't with mine, only the age of when I lost it. Rain stayed until 9 this morning and she is highly recommended. She is number 110 at the place. You would recognize during her fully nude dance, she is the one dancing in the middle of the stage with the tight body.
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Is this an Angeles style barfine where the 10,000 includes the girl's share as well? Did you still tip Rain? Was she substantially less cute than your first choice? How many in the lineup? Do they all make eye contact?
Sorry for the 20 questions but just curious as I only went to a KTV once thinking them aimed at Asian clients who like to smoke and sing karaoke and play Mr. Bigshot buying bottles of Johny Walker at ridiclous prices.
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[QUOTE=Sun Devil]I am finding the location of the Traders Hotel will soon make it as my place of stay here in the PI in the future. There is a plethora of KTVs on Roxas Blvd. Last night, I went to the Asia Entertainment complex, which is near Victory Hill and Flamingo, and just past the Heritage Hotel.
When I got in, I saw a 5'11 model being escorted out by her American client. Just my luck, I certainly would have picked her if she was available. I find out from one of the mamasans, they are called floor managers here in the PI, that the client is from Illinois. Anyway, the cost for this place is a tad bit higher than that of East Asia. It costs 800+ for an hour of conversation with the girls, 500 pesos for an entrance fee, and 10,000 pesos for barfine.
I chose a girl from Leyte, named Michelle, but her actual name is Derosa, and made an arrangement with the manager for an all nighter until 10 am with her at my hotel. I paid the 10,000 pesos and took her back to Traders. Unfortunately, she started getting nervous and would not put out once we were in the room (maybe she because she saw my penis).
Since I went throught the official channel, I called the floor manager to complain about Michelle's change of heart and the floor manager had a talk with Michelle over the phone. The floor manager then talked to me and indicated that Michelle should be okay. As soos as I hung up, Michelle reverted back to her original attitude and almost started to cry. She pleaded mercy that she would be docked a 10,000 peso penalty and that she might not be able to work in Asia Entertainment again.
Because of various occasssions of being cheated by the locals, I told Michelle that we were going back to Asia Entertainment immediately. I got dressed (Michelle did not take any of her clothes off) and when we got back to the KTV, I demanded my 10,000 pesos back from the floor manager.
Unfortunately, because I had used my credit card, she could not return my money and cash and pleaded that I choose another girl. I then went back to the fishbowl, while Michelle slowly walked back to the locker room to change. I chose a girl by the name of Rain, and she provided a GFE, included BBJ and DFK.
The surprising thing was that Rain did not lose her virginity until January 13, 2006, at the age of 18 (she is 19 years old now), and from a client in Puerta Gallera. I guess women remember the exact date of their first time. I certainly don't with mine, only the age of when I lost it. Rain stayed until 9 this morning and she is highly recommended. She is number 110 at the place. You would recognize during her fully nude dance, she is the[/QUOTE]
Forgive me, but I had to blink at the 10,000 Peso price! I sincerely hope that it is a typing mistake and you meant 1,000 Peso. If it really was 10,000 Peso then please give 9,000 to charity and pay the actual market price of 1,000 for the action! Gross overpaying ruins the market for others and the girls have a big laugh behind the back of the Mr. Big Spender.
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Just wondering about the percentage of girls who will stay the night and fuck without a condom in Manila as compared with Angeles City.
When I was in AC about half would fuck me bareback.
Yeah, give me a hard time, but I do not travel around the world to do sex with latex. I can use a latex glove at home, thank you.
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The 10,000 pesos at Asian Entertainment is for an all-inclusive all nighter without tip. You should see the amount of people bar-fining these girls. I would say that by the time I left the joint I've seen about 20 women being barfined. I guess you got a bunch of rich foreign guys doing this, mostly Korean and Japanese tourists.
The girl Rain that I chose after Michelle was as good looking. It is really hard to choose the girl at the showroom because they are equally good looking.
Instead of going to East Asia or Asian Entertainment, I went to Cafe Malizia last night and chose a girl named Alicia, another 19 year old. I think this is the average girl at the KTVs because, according to the floor manager who I talked to, a number of these girls are working students and are financing their studies by working at these places.
This girl was a petite hard body who has been dancing since the age of 5. The cost was 6,000 pesos at the uptair VIP room, including snacks, my and her drinks, entrance fee, for about two hours. It was kind of nice having sex with this chick while another group was doing karaoke next door. DFK and BBBJ were included.
I can't believe that my gas still running here in the PI. I guess the fear of not having any chick for the next 4 weeks while working back in the US is motivating me to just continue seeing different women on a daily basis, regardless of the price. I am not the type to buy things just for the hell of it in the US, plus I make a six-figure income while still a bachelor with no kids, so overpaying is no big deal for me.
Like I said before, my daily budget is $200 on this trip. With regards to charity, at least I know who I am giving my money to, not just a institution with members who might be stealing the money for themselves. I am just a guy trying to buy new experience on a nightly basis because my existence in the US is so boring. The blandness of life in the US is unbelievable, especially in an uncultured region like the US Southwest. I can't even look forward to the up-coming NFL season because the team we have in town has been historically so bad.
I don't think I am ruining the market because there are different working girl establishments here. There are the KTVs geared toward Asian businessmen and tourists. Then you have the KTVs geared toward the local guys. After that, you have the Burgos street places and EDSA Entertainment complex geared toward Caucasian tastes, then the LA Cafe and Cafe Havana free lancers. Plus, if you want, there are massage parlors all ove the city, some associated with KTVs like Heartbeat and Pegasus.
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Typhoons
[QUOTE=PeakView]Excellent info. Thanks! I am fortunate in that my connections there are good and that, of course, is always the best way to get to know an area. I knew there were some resorts, but I didn't realize how many and that they were all upscale.
On another tack, what is the danger there from typhoons? I am not worried about my trip, but I am interested to know if these beach-front resorts get periodically wiped out or if their southern exposure keeps them out of most of the trouble from storm surge.[/QUOTE]The Batangas resorts generally are hit by the same typhoons that hit Manila,But Batangas location and orientation shelters them somewhat.
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Sun Devil, your posts are intriguing and breathtakingly honest. I feel like I'm there with you. Bon appetit!
I'd like to ask some questions:
My theory that a pussy is a pussy is a pussy it suspect now, depending on you answer:
Are these 10K peso girls intelligent? Educated? Can they hold a conversation?
For ex: I routinely barfine girls from EDSA. The sex is great but rarely does the relationship extend beyond a couple of days because their english is limited and they don't know anything and have even less interest in learning anything. So do these high priced girls you take from the KTV places know the difference between Cabernet and Merlot or IMF and ISG? If for no other reason than to make a monger feel inclined to bang the girl for an extra day or two, or month, or more? Are they all college girls?
And were is this Asian Entertainment Center?
I enjoy returning to the well (EDSA) but do harbor perhaps a self-defeating wish to meet a filip who is interesting in and out of bed.
In no way, should be this taken as a criticism of filipinas. Taken in its totality, I think they're the best. But............sex, dinner at a fine restaurant; more sex; wine; good conversation; more sex. Well, maybe this is just a dream.
Have you done EDSA? Burgos? How do they compare? I'm interested in the educational level of these girls that you are covorting with?
Don
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Asian Entertainment Center
I went here the first weekend I was in town. What eye candy! Sheesh! My eyes were bulging. 600pp per hour to sit with a girl. Barfine was 6000pp. I think the entry was 400pp. Plus drinks and food. My total tab ran over 10000pp that night. Do not pick #113, very beautiful for a 19 year old limp fish. So little chemistry that she left in the morning without asking for tip.
About the location, I was brought there, it was raining hard that night so my memory is rather vague on that. Sorry.
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sun devil.....i will be in san jose on the 16th of aug
hey sun devil i love reading your posts....looks like you are having a great time ....if you get a chance i would like to hear more about your trip in asia ..are you going to all these clubs by yourself ? do you feel safe ? it seems ( while reading your posts, the costs for pussy is higher than san jose..) what are your takes...since i think you know what i like ...is this a trip i would enjoy ? are you out all hours of the nite chasing pussy or is it more , you chose one and you bar fine her and the nite is over....are the streets full of hot girls ? that"s the sceen i have in my head..? sorry to ask so many questions but i know you and i are the same when comes to our hobby and i will get a true feeling about what its is like there before i go...thanks again chilimike ....
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Air Force One (AF1 KTV)
Overall Rating: 9/10
Attractiveness of staff: My Chinese girl 9/10,my Cebu girl 7/10. All girls 7-9/10.
Quality of service: 9/10
What's special: Threesomes in a really luxurious place.
*** On AF1
When I had been to Manila two years ago, AF1 was supposed to be the most upmarket KTV in Manila. Given that Manila generally seemd to be less developped than BKK, I was certainly surprised about AF1 - is looks more modern than even Poseidon or Utopia in BKK and feels very luxurious. It even had it's own, branded toileteries.
*** How to get there
It's adress is 888 Ninoy Aquino Ave., Paranaque. Air Force One is located along the airport road in Paranaque. If you are coming from the airport, drive towards Sucat, past Dampa, right side.
*** An alternative way of getting there
I was staying in the Penisula Manila in Makati. I was taking one of the hotel taxis to the AF1, so the valet asked me where I wanted to go to pass that information to the taxi driver. I must admit I was slighly hesitant to tell him I was planning to go to a KTV - however, he told me he thought the AF1 was an excellent choice. All this while an American couple listened, but probaly could not really decode what we were talking about. The trip by taxi took about 1/2h.
*** Choices and prices
The AF1 has a fishtank, which is normally shielded by a curtain. One of the papasans will politely ask you to sit down, then will have the curtain opened and will advise you about the menu. The menu contains different grades of rooms and either one or two (or maybe more) girls. I had made up my mind that I wanted to have a threesome that evening and 'couples' which were confortable with that.
As I opted for a threesome and it was early afternoon, the papasan threw in a (supposedly larger) business class room for free. The total damage for the room was 1800, 200 for the papasan advise plus 500 for drinks and tips for the waitress. The prices does cover the room, the massages but it does not cover extras - you will negotiate those with your company on your room.
*** The girls and prices continued
After the went to the room, we chatted an bit. One of my girls said she was a Manila native. She had very fair skin, to me looked Chinese and turned out to be the more active of the two. I was lucky in that sense: she was not only more active, she was also prettier - when she undressed, she revealed a great body and a fabulous pair of breasts. She was still Asian and petite, but big enough to have slightly larger breasts that an average Asian girl. The second girl turned out to be from Cebu, darker skin, the more shy of the two. She was also slighly shorter and had smaller breasts. Maybe she was shy because she felt less pretty - that would not be uncommon for a darker skinned Asian girl.
We negotiated the extras and settled for 6000. Yes, I know it's all on the expensive side. But then it was a threesome in one of the better places in SEA...
*** Wet foreplay
The one thing I do like more about Thai places is that they all have tubs, some have jacuzzis. The AF1 has showers. Larger showers that did fit us three, but it's still showers.
The two showered with me and made sure that they gave my privates a thorough cleaning. It was fun, but less so than a bath at a Thai place.
*** Playing with the two
We went to the bed after the shower and it was clear at the time that the Chinese gal was the more active. We had some foreplay, then the Chinese gal wanted to start with a CBJ - I told her I was disappointed and was expecting a BBBJ. She aked me why, I told her that it certainly felt a lot better and that I was sure she wanted to make me feel good; she inspected my parts, seemed to be convinced they were neat enough and started to give a BBBJ. I later switched to the Cebu gal - while she looked a little bit older, she did not match the Chinese's skills - so it was back to the Chinese gal.
I later switched to have a CFJ withe the Chinese gal. The Cebu gal did try to massage my neck - she really could have tried different things but it was clear that she was a bit shy. I really like it when girls do surprise me, and I hate explaining girls what to do at a threesome. Either they intuitively do the right thing, or I prefer to focus on the better girl - which is why I did.
*** After the session
We all took a shower again after the session. I did not have a CFJ with the Cebu girl. She sort of excused herself and made sure she washed me. I thought this was a very nice touch indeed - still, the Chinese gal was better.
*** In summary
In summary, I believe that both the Peninsula and the AF1 have earned their reputation as the best places in town. If you want to splurge, I would recommed both places. The best thing though would be the Chinese gal, a more uninhibited partner for a LT in the Pen. That's still a thing to go for.
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Hey guys,
What are some good places to get some action to during the daytime?
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[QUOTE=Fastpiston]Forgive me, but I had to blink at the 10,000 Peso price! I sincerely hope that it is a typing mistake and you meant 1,000 Peso. If it really was 10,000 Peso then please give 9,000 to charity and pay the actual market price of 1,000 for the action! Gross overpaying ruins the market for others and the girls have a big laugh behind the back of the Mr. Big Spender.[/QUOTE]
8,000 to 10,000 P is the standard barfine for Roxas KTV joints (but can be negotiated slightly downward). The girls are generally more beautiful and charming then the EDSA and burgoss bars. Too expensive for me, but I would certainly be a regular if I was rich. Mostly frequented by Japanese, Korean and Chinese, with the occasional caucasian with money to burn. To many, all pussy is alike, but to the pussy connoisseur, there is certainly a difference.
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EDSA and Copacobana
This 7/29 post has already been answered. Walking around EDSA EC and Copacobana is generally safe, but not much reason to stroll around at night. I'll add three things.
1) The most dangerous thing here, by far, is walking across EDSA from the hotel to the bars. I guess you could walk to the light or catch a cab if you aren't a fast runner.
2) During the day walk several blocks in a direction opposite to the front of the hotel and you will find an interesting market area. The effects of jet lag (Detroit / Tokyo) has turned my brain to mush and I can't remember the name of the area/market, but it's an interesting place. I can almost guarantee you'll be the only foreigner there.
3) Don't take a camera to EDSA EC unless you feel comfortable allowing it to be checked in with the security guards out front.*
* I bet those security guards have some interesting stories to tell.
X Man
[QUOTE=Ralek]Guys,
Is the EDSA complex area safe? I'm gonna be staying at the Copacaban by myself for a few nights before I meet up w/ a few friends, and was wondering if it was safe to walk around those streets at night.[/QUOTE]
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General question about the clubs:
Do any clubs/bars/casas cater to a specific tastes in bodytype?
I'm not too into the really slender, thin type of girl with no curves.
I like thick girls(not fat) with nice curves, big firm ass, overall hard body(I guess you can say muscular---but NOT like a female bodybuilder, more like a fitness chick).
Are there any specific places I should go to for my tastes?
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More than any sane man should be expected to take
4 Madonna songs in a row, followed by a Cher song.
That's what Firehouse in the EDSA Complex inflicted on me last night. No wonder the place was almost empty. Then again on a Monday night most of the other places were pretty deserted also. Lots of tasty dishes were on offer. But since I had spent all afternoon and evening with my internet chat girl I was just looking to relax and hear some music, thus my ultrasensitivity to the tunes issue. But there does seem to be a lazy trend among the DJs in these places to pop in a music video and just let the same group's songs play for half an hour. Some other bars were playing stuff that I like but again it was the same group's songs consecutively.
Earlier I went to LA Cafe, which was neither here nor there as far as girl selection. Then I looked at Amazonia, which didn't have many freelancers but the waitresses were pretty cute.
Finally, I ended up back at Cafe Havana in Greenbelt (should put this in Makati but I can't be bothered). I was just there to pick up some cigars but I spotted several attractive possibilities. I ended up dancing Latin music with one girl (put that Colombia Salsa experience to good use). I eventually took her home to the Dusit with me and it ended up a freeby since she left in the early AM without asking for anything.
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A Primer on the Premiere Clubbing Scene in Metro Manila
A Primer on the Night Clubbing Scene in the Philippines
I will deal with the scene in Metropolitan Manila area, as it includes the biggest range and number of clubs. Let us break down the night club scene into several categories:
1. Go-go Clubs
2. KTV Clubs
3. Full Night Clubs
The Go-go club scene usually feature the girls that dance on stage and walk around the club in 2-piece bikinis. Considered the low-end by locals, the girls are more dark-skinned, "exotic" types preferred by caucasian visitors. These clubs include Vixen (along Roxas Blvd), the EDSA complex (Roxas Blvd and EDSA Ave), and the clubs along P. Burgos St. and Makati Ave. in Makati City. The normal SOP is mid-priced drinks (P150-250), barfines asked P2-3,000. Girls might even ask for tips. Mostly non-local customers. I will not dwell further on this scene.
The KTV Clubs can feature private VIP rooms and maybe a Den/Lounge area, which might or might not have a stage for shows. The majority of KTV clubs will not feature nude shows or even have shows at all. Guests come in, get a VIP room, look at the showroom/fishbowl and select the girl(s) to sit with them. As you enter the club, you will be asked for your preferred FM/GRM (Floor Manager/Guest Relations Manager), or will be assigned one if you dont have one. Note that all requests for "Extras" are to be coursed through your FM/GRM, who can help you select the right lady who "Will". Inside the room, you can sing, drink, smoke, and bullshit with the girls. When the girl sits with you, there is an hourly Sitting Fee, called the Table Charge. The chemistry between you and the girl will affect your experience.
Full Night clubs will feature shows. They could include modelling shows, bikini dancers, topless dancers, and full strip performers. There are also non-showgirls, called GRO (Guest Relations Officer). All of the girls in the club are available to sit with you for an hourly fee. Full Night clubs also feature VIP rooms where you have a Karaoke Machine in-room. This feature allows your group to have private singing, relaxing, fun times. These clubs also have a big stage and sitting area for the majority of patrons who want to watch the shows. Like the KTV clubs, you will be dealing with a FM/GRM.
Note that some KTV/Night clubs could have a minimum charge for the VIP room (some don't) and it depends on the room size. Ask your FM/GRM beforehand, and if the minimum charge is consumable. Consumable means it includes tha ladies' hourly Table Fee, drinks and food you order. Minimum charge means that if you have not spent that much, you will have to pay the minimum charge. Rest assured that you will most likely exceed that amount. Important things to note: Tip your wait staff well (P100 is good, P200 is very good). If your FM/GRM treats you well, and recommends the right company, give him/her P300-P500. The FM/GRM will always give you their business card. Keep it.
2nd Tier clubs include Mystique, Stardust, Queens Castle, Eve's Venom (in Quezon City); East Asia, Dynasty Real (Roxas Blvd, Manila & Parañaque); Miss Universal (Libertad St, Pasay City). These are full night clubs with 40-180 girls, about half are GROs and half of them are showgirls. The table charge for GROs are normally less than the showgirl/model. The most expensive are the Solo/Starlet strippers. Table charge (hourly) for GRO (P400-600), showgirls (P500-750). Of the above named clubs, East Asia is the most expensive, Mystique & Miss Universal has the most girls. You might be able to do the deed in-room, but the norm is barfine. Which is the girl leaving for the night with you for "whatever" in your hotel room. Make sure you agree beforehand it is overnight (girl leaves in the morning) and not a short-time deal. Barfines here will range from P6,000-P9,000.
Top-Tier clubs include Pegasus, Heartbeat, Classmates (in Quezon City); Infiniti (Roxas Blvd); Pharaoh (Makati); Air Force-1 (Parañaque). These are mostly the KTV oriented clubs, and minimal shows ... although Heartbeat, Classmates & Heartbeat do feature more shows now than before. The best lookers in my own opinion can be found at Heartbeat, Classmates, and Air Force-1. Pegasus has the best and plushiest couches and amenities, and used to have the best looking women. Alas, these last 3 years, I feel disappointed at the quality. The most expensive of these are Pegasus and Classmates (P1,000-P1,300/hr table charge), the least Heartbeat (P750/hr). Barfine will range from P8,000 - P14,000 depending on the club and the lady in question.
Extra Services: Though the terms may vary (TX, Termination, MI, Mission Impossible, etc) you can do the deed In-Room at these clubs. You have to arrange for this with the FM/GRM, who will let you know who is willing to do the deed. You will be charged a one-hour fee for a private room for your personal use (aside from your group's VIP room) usually for around P3,000. There is the lady's fee for the service which could range from P2,000-P4,000. You are also expected to table her for one hor before, and one hour after the deed. The hour you do the deed has no table charge (as it is included in the TX Fee). If you are really lucky, you might even get a freebie, hahahaha. My personal preference is not to do the deed in-room, but in my hotel room, where we can have more time and amenities.
You don't have to barfine the lady you fancy. Some of them will not TX or barfine at all, but can be persuaded to have a brief affair with you (for free or for pay) provided you are discrete, as she does not want anyone in the club to know she will. If this is the case, zip your mouth after the deed, so you can enjoy it again. Many guys prefer the courting route, as it gives a semblance of romance, and more of a GFE (girlfriend experience) and short term affair. It also gives the girl a feeling of not selling her body, as she gives you sex with a bit of affection, and you provide her with cash for her needs, as a lover/boyfriend will do. This is the oriental mindset.
Hope this helps those who keep asking how much, how do I do, what is there, etc - both local and our worldwide friends.
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Manila Night Clubs
I have signed on to ISG for over a year but this is my first post after living in Thailand for 3 years and now China for over a year and a half. I have been to Manila 4 times and I am going this weekend for my 5th. I am very familiar with the usual places in Ermita such as LA Cafe and Amazonia and not a fan of KTV as I get too much of it in China. I also am a frequent visitor to EDSA My question is does anyone know any good night clubs/Discos to go to with or without a gril that play either Techno/House Music or Latin Music as I dont like Hip Hop? Also, what are some of the better places to go in Makati now adays?
Thanks for the info.
DIveGuy69
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There's a club called Embassy, its one of the nicer clubs in Manila from my understanding. Saturday nights they play trance/house. Not as many ladies as guys when i was there on a saturday on the main floor, the VIP was about a 1 to 1 ratio. One of the owners is a friend of a friend, he told me much more girls on Friday (when they play hip hop).
As for where it is. I'm honestly not sure :) I would guess in Makati somewhere, but i can find out if needed.
There's a club I know is in Makati called Absynth that plays trance, but its a much much smaller place, really more of a bar than a club.
[QUOTE=Diveguy69]I have signed on to ISG for over a year but this is my first post after living in Thailand for 3 years and now China for over a year and a half. I have been to Manila 4 times and I am going this weekend for my 5th. I am very familiar with the usual places in Ermita such as LA Cafe and Amazonia and not a fan of KTV as I get too much of it in China. I also am a frequent visitor to EDSA My question is does anyone know any good night clubs/Discos to go to with or without a gril that play either Techno/House Music or Latin Music as I dont like Hip Hop? Also, what are some of the better places to go in Makati now adays?
Thanks for the info.
DIveGuy69[/QUOTE]
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Hey guys,
Is $49/night normal for the Copacabana during the low season?
Because if so, I would rather stay at the Hyatt Regency for $72/night(although they do charge $20 to bring a girl in from what I hear).
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[QUOTE=Xtorted Decay]There's a club called Embassy, its one of the nicer clubs in Manila from my understanding. Saturday nights they play trance/house. Not as many ladies as guys when i was there on a saturday on the main floor, the VIP was about a 1 to 1 ratio. One of the owners is a friend of a friend, he told me much more girls on Friday (when they play hip hop).
As for where it is. I'm honestly not sure :) I would guess in Makati somewhere, but i can find out if needed.
There's a club I know is in Makati called Absynth that plays trance, but its a much much smaller place, really more of a bar than a club.[/QUOTE]
I believe Embassy is at the Fort which is close to the Makati area. One other place to try is Nirvana on Taft and Buendia. They have dancers with numbers and it is a disco. However there are VIP rooms in the back but I am not sure of the prices.
I'm assuming anything goes in the VIP rooms. But, the few times I've been there we just hung out and danced a little--just like a nightclub. In fact, it wasn't until the 3rd time I was there that I even noticed the VIP rooms because this place is huge.
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Copacabana is $50 on Asiatravel
But that includes BVAT I think, whereas the $72 at Hyatt is likely ++ (VAT + service charge of 10%). VAT & service charge also apply to guest fee.
SO true what the guy said about the biggest danger being crossing EDSA to get to the complex! The first half is scarier as once you get to the medianm the WESTBOUND traffic is often backed up approaching the Roxas traffic light.
EDSA is ALMOST like crossing Avenida Atlantica in the REAL Copacabana; no pederstrian right of way in either country, though Rio traffic moves faster than Manila traffic.
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Fun night at EDSA
Flew to Manila with a few friends who had never been there friday. Stayed at Hotel Niko (The Dusit Hotel). Decided to take them to the EDSA complex friday night after a few hours of free drinks at the 16th floor executive lounge. After teaching them the ropes we explored a few bars and ended up at the first bar on the right when you walk in (sorry, I was half drunk so I don't remember the name, but it's the one where they wear black and white checkerd tops).
After a few drinks and getting my friends situated with the women they wanted, I was looking for something I could try to break in half. I piicked Mai Mai who was one of the smallest girls in there. We talked for a little while and I decided to take her back to the hotel with me. After showers, we got in the bed and she proceded to a BBBJ. She constantly looked up at me to make sure I was enjoying it. After about 10 minutes I was tired of the BJ and ready to just start my mission. I pounded this girl in every imaginable position for over a hour. What ever I wanted to do she was up to. After reaching pure exhaustion and soaking wet with sweat, I exploded. She got up after a few minutes, washed off, brought me a warm towel and layed her head on me and fell asleep. This girl was a real trooper. The next morning she woke me up and started with another BBBJ. After another session we took a shower together and got dressed.
A few reminder tips for anyone going to EDSA for the first time:
1. Don't use the services of the people outside of EDSA for ANYTHING. They will try to walk you into the bar, get a cab for you, take you to other bars, sell you things etc. and they all want tips.
2. Never tell anyone it is your first time there. They were trying to charge my friends $3500 to $4500 pesos for LT when they found out it was their first time. I would not let them pay more than $2000 pesos. Only one friend had a girl that would not accept that and I took him in another bar for 5 minutes and found him another girl that he liked for $2000 pesos LT.
3. Don't be afraid to walk into the bars look around and walk out. I usually walk into each bar, stand right in front of the stage, and look at the girls to see if I see anything I like. If I don't see anything, I walk out and go to the next bar.
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LA Cafe in the Daytime?
My fellow mongerers,
I have an upcoming trip to the PI and my arrival time is 12 noon. I'm staying in Makati which doesn't really get going until dusk so I was wondering what your advice would be for the early afternoon? Is it worth taking a taxi from Makati to the LA Cafe so early? I've been the the Cafe before but it was always later in the evening. I'm assuming Jurassic and the other clubs in the area are like the Makati bars and don't get going until later too.
If LA Cafe is lame in the afternoons, where else would you suggest? Thanks for your help.
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Hello guy’s I need some help her.
I am somebody that always goes to Thailand but I want to go to the Philippines.
I am on my way to Thailand in about 20 days from now but I want to go to Philippines for 3 or 4 nights where to stay and what to do in the Philippines.
It will be my first time to the Philippines.
What I want to know is:
-What hotels are good in manila?? (I mean no pay extra to take a lady that spends the night).any website the see at is ok.
-Where are the good bars in manila or the good night life?
-Or shut I go to Angeles city for 3 or 4 nights?
-If so what hotels are good in Angeles city?? (I mean no pay extra to take a lady that spends the night). Any website the see at is ok.
-Where are the good bars in Angeles city or the good night life?
-And how to go to Angeles city??(Taxi I know but what to pay)?
-And where to change money in the Philippines?(My money is Euro).
-Are the bars the same as in Thailand?
-Any website to the subject is welcome to me guy’s.
Ok guy’s all help is good to start my first trip to the Philippines ok.
Thanks a lot for the help guy’s and maybe see you there ok if so the first drink is on me ok.
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Philippines Hotel Tag/Thread?
Hi Jackson
I haven't posted for months, coming back to the scene after a long medical lay off and in a darling mood. Will be in Manila in two weeks and looking for recommended accomodation. Can you set up a tag under the Philippines thread covering hotels? Comments / recommendations regarding hotels are all over the shop and generall confusing. It would make it easier for all of us to find out where the best deals on monger friendly hotels in Phils are.
TIA
Daring Mood
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Got you covered
[QUOTE=Daring Mood]Hi Jackson
I haven't posted for months, coming back to the scene after a long medical lay off and in a darling mood. Will be in Manila in two weeks and looking for recommended accomodation. Can you set up a tag under the Philippines thread covering hotels? Comments / recommendations regarding hotels are all over the shop and generall confusing. It would make it easier for all of us to find out where the best deals on monger friendly hotels in Phils are.
TIA
Daring Mood[/QUOTE]PM me or post your question and I will get to you,I usually handle 10-15 PM s a day on travel related questions,Real Life I am in the Travel Business.Cheers
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Hotels
Hey Jackson and other fellows.
I have to agree with Daring Mood. I've always thought a hotel thread for the RP would be nice. It's why I'm here today. I'm gonna be in the RP for all of October and most of November.
I'll probably start at the Heritage. I like that area of town. Maybe I'll do a short stay at the Oxford Suites if I get the urge to hit P. Burgous.
But, as always, I'm open to new ideas.
CL, I'll shoot you a PM.
Later
FD
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Hotel thread would be cool.
Saw the Heritage for $75 on Cebu Pacific's website. Anybody know what rate you can get as a walk in? Other websites have it cheaper?
ALso, has anybody ever stayed at Legend's hotel in the Ortigas center? The new Lonely Planet mentions the jacuzzis in each deluxe room.
Here is link:
[url]http://www.angelfire.com/id/legend1/welcome.html[/url]
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LA Cafe at noon
[QUOTE=Soju Lizard]My fellow mongerers,
I have an upcoming trip to the PI and my arrival time is 12 noon. I'm staying in Makati which doesn't really get going until dusk so I was wondering what your advice would be for the early afternoon? Is it worth taking a taxi from Makati to the LA Cafe so early? I've been the the Cafe before but it was always later in the evening. I'm assuming Jurassic and the other clubs in the area are like the Makati bars and don't get going until later too.
If LA Cafe is lame in the afternoons, where else would you suggest? Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]
Yes, simply have a try! I was there quite regularly at noon and always found somebody who met my taste for ST! I prefer to go to SOGO Mabini for it. 3 hrs cost 300 peso or so.
Cheers - Hesekiels
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What is SOGO Mabini?
I know Mabini street, but not SOGO. Daytime hours can be dull indeed.
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SOGO hotel
[QUOTE=Surfer]I know Mabini street, but not SOGO. Daytime hours can be dull indeed.[/QUOTE]
Oh, sorry! It is just a famous ST hotel in Mabini street. Every taxi driver you pick in front of LA Cafe knows it. It is just a 5 minutes ride that costs you not more than 40 pesos. A great place to go for daytime action while your GF/wife waits in Pan Pacific! :) Sometimes you can find cute and willing girls at the entrance!
Cheers - Hesekiels
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[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Oh, sorry! It is just a famous ST hotel in Mabini street. Every taxi driver you pick in front of LA Cafe knows it. It is just a 5 minutes ride that costs you not more than 40 pesos. A great place to go for daytime action while your GF/wife waits in Pan Pacific! :) Sometimes you can find cute and willing girls at the entrance!
Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]Thanks Hesekiels. I'll follow your advice. I'm wondering though if the latest stormtrooper raids on LA Cafe will have scared all the prospects away. Hopefully not. I've still got 3 weeks before my trip so maybe it will all have blown over by then.
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Selamat Hesekiels
wouldn't suppose you know the cross street or a landmark nearby to better identify exactly where it is?
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Sogo location
[QUOTE=Surfer]wouldn't suppose you know the cross street or a landmark nearby to better identify exactly where it is?[/QUOTE]You should know it. Just a few blocks north of Harrison Plaza, on the left.
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SoGo Info! Very Convient and S/T Mongering Friendly!
I find this place convient , clean enough and reliable.
Many locations in close proximity to Mongering Haunts:
SoGo Regency Hotel (location)
2129 Mabini St \Malte , Manila
522-7646 / 523-0873
Rates:
Promo Rate (Very basic and small, but very usable) $360 PI for 2-3hrs
Regency Suite $ 525 PI about $10us for 2-3hrs
Other locations throughout Metro Manila:
Pasay Edsa 2860 FB Harrison St Pasay City
Pasay Rotonda: 302 edsa corner Taft Av, Pasay City
Guadalupe 2195 EDSA Guadaloupe Nuevo. Makati City (Close to Burgos short Taxi ride)
Locations in Quezon City as well as Cebu.
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Oh, sorry! It is just a famous ST hotel in Mabini street. Every taxi driver you pick in front of LA Cafe knows it. It is just a 5 minutes ride that costs you not more than 40 pesos. A great place to go for daytime action while your GF/wife waits in Pan Pacific! :) Sometimes you can find cute and willing girls at the entrance!
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Newby in Manila - wants a little advice
I found this site before I left the states, and now have arrived in Manila as of Friday August 18th. As it is Sunday now, I shall be here for 7 more days. I am here to interview some call centers and train a some reps for my business.
I welcome the opportunity to experience the local culture - however, the conceirge at the hotel - the Astoria Plaza in Ortigas - will not let me out at night alone - *I strongly advises you against it, sir*
I have read many of the posts here (and will contribute one, if I can get off the ground here) and it appears a visit to Quezon City (Heartbeat/Classmates) for the high end, and perhaps the EDSA complex would be good. As an fyi I'm a 40yo married guy, looking for some nice filipina affairs - not wife hunting - no need for another... So do I ditch the ring, does it matter?
My primary question is, is it ok to go to these places alone? Is it fairly easy to get a fair (metered) cab ride back? Anything in particular I should watch out for? I'm getting the impression from people here that this place is more dangerous than I anticipated, and in my one trip to the local sm megamall to restock all the toiletries stripped from my bags by airport security and get some food for the fridge - I was suprised to get patted down at the entrance, and by the number of security around. I didn't really do any hunting, I looked around a bit, but didn't notice a lot of looks.
In any case, I would love to explore when I'm not working/doing business - so welcome your advice for flying solo, etc... thx
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apparantly Amazonia and Butterfly rocks closed???
According to my girl, they are closed temporarily or permantly due to the raids last week, She thinks it might only be time before LA Cafe is closed and she will return to Davao.
I dont think they are closed for good as I heard the owner of Amazonia was opening another Amazonia bar in Wangchai, Hong Kong.
Does anybody know anything anymore concrete???
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Manila Bars
Been bar hopping for the last couple of days. Too busy for a detailed report, but I'll summarize my findings.
DEL PILAR STREET, MALATE
I am happy to report that the cornerstone of this area, LA Cafe, is running at 100%. In the two times I've been there since the raid, it was jam packed full of girls. I could not discern any decrease in either quality or quantity of girls.
Stingfellows was rocking. This is the old Jurassic bar, directly opposite LA Cafe. A very good selection of girls, although the place is up and down. When I went Thursday night, it was a difficult choice between 3 real hotties. I took one and my friend took another. None of them were there Saturday, and I couldn't find anyone I liked. The selection was still very good however. On a good night, I consider this one the best bars in Manila. Barfine is 1,000, and the ladies drinks count towards the fine.
Alas, as reported earlier, Amazonia and Butterfly bar are closed. The irony is that as far as I know, none of the staff barfined from this place. It was just a bar like LA Cafe that had a lot of freelancers. It most likely has to do bribes or similar issues about the right people not getting their "cut", although there would still need to be some violation to close the place down. I would bet that some of the dancers (or all of them) didn't have dept of social hygiene permits. Just because the girls only dance and don't barfine doesn't mean they do not need the permits. Basically, if you dance in a place like this, you are put in a group that requires weekly checkups. Maybe management thought they could get away with it (girls don't like to get the checkups) because they didn't allow barfines. Well, the law is enforced when they have good reason - like not receiving the correct bribe - so Amazonia gets closed. This is just my guess.
AIRPORT ROAD
For those not familiar with area, just ask any taxi driver to take you to Victory Hills KTV. DONT GO IN VICTORY HILLS. It is a rip off joint. Instead, just walk against the flow of traffic. You will pass Flamingo Bar (not to be confused with Flamingo on Burgos) on your left. The next bar passed Flamingo is Ruds Cafe. A small, run down bar, but there was a really nice selection of girls when I went there. Just take a seat and keep your eyes open. I took a girl from this place and so did my friend, and there was a third who was very bangable. The barfine is 6,000 (go figure), but we just picked them up down the street at 3:00 am. Some really nice girls in this bar.
Now, if instead of going into Ruds Cafe you continue walking, you will come to airport road in about 3 minutes. First, this place is dark with some sketchy characters, but don't worry too much about it. I've been there many times at around 1:00 am and have never been concerned, but cautious types should be aware.
Turn left on Airport road. This is a low end area with lots of cheap places with VIP rooms, but also a couple of nice places. The only thing that almost everyone has in common is that there are girls available, either to just sit with you, for VIP, or for take out. Take out is not common, but is usually negotiable. Just take a walk and see if anything takes your fancy. After about a 5 minute walk, you will get to a main corner with a couple of big, bright clubs. Every one is up and down, so it is difficult to recommend any particular one. At this corner, hang a right. A couple more on this street. After the street gets dark, just cross the street and check out the other side. When you get back to Airport road, turn left and go back the way you came, except now check out the bars on the other side of the street. At the point you get back to where you started from, you have walked past about 40 bars and seen maybe 100 girls. There are another maybe 200 girls inside these bars that you won't see unless you enter. And the nice thing about this place is that it is cheap. Ladies drinks are 100 to 200 pesos, and a san Miguel is always less then 50.
One of the nice things about these places is that while many of better girls just work there and won't go home or VIP with the customers, as a "rich" foreigner, you will tend to get better mileage. And if you are under 60 and less then 300 lbs, you will be considered quite a catch. Older guys can't give them the family they want and some girls are afraid that large men are just too big on top of their petite bodies (if you are 65 and 300 lbs, just lose some weight and pop a Viagra). But ugly guys, no problem. I've seen some of the funkiest looking dudes with some absolute babes. Just zoom in on the cutest girl you can find, buy her some drinks and if she won't go home with, you can almost certainly make a date for the next night and get some great girlfriend sex.
Also, there are lots of similar areas like this all around Manila, but this is the largest that I know off. Just yesterday, driving along Edsa from the complex to Makati, I noticed a couple on the left side that I have never been to before. Parking can be difficult, but no problem if you go late. I walked past about 6 or 7 bars, and saw a real cute girl working in one. She was 18 and appeared quite surprised when I offered to buy her a drink. She wouldn't go into the VIP room with me and wouldn't leave with me, but after a bunch of cheap ladies drinks, agreed to meet at 10:00 tonight and go out with me. A really sweet girl that would be very difficult to find in the complex. Assuming that she is not a virgin (I have little patience for second and third dates anymore) I'll be banging her tonight.
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Have fun!
[QUOTE=Bit Farmer]
I welcome the opportunity to experience the local culture - however, the conceirge at the hotel - the Astoria Plaza in Ortigas - will not let me out at night alone - *I strongly advises you against it, sir*
As an fyi I'm a 40yo married guy, looking for some nice filipina affairs - not wife hunting - no need for another... So do I ditch the ring, does it matter?
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Sure you can go out alone at night! Take any taxi to EDSA complex, but make sure that the driver flags the meter. Sometimes one has to insist, but it's worth it to avoid misunderstandings. That's all. However, I believe with the very same precautions like in NYC you should not have any problems in Metro Manila.
By the way, why to ditch your ring? I don't do it either and never encountered any disadvantage because of that. :) Being married simply does not matter at all. IMHO, of course!
Happy hunting - Hesekiels
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[QUOTE=Bit Farmer]I welcome the opportunity to experience the local culture - however, the conceirge at the hotel - the Astoria Plaza in Ortigas - will not let me out at night alone - *I strongly advises you against it, sir*
My primary question is, is it ok to go to these places alone? Is it fairly easy to get a fair (metered) cab ride back? Anything in particular I should watch out for?[/QUOTE]BF..it sounds to me like your hotel doorman is trying to set you up with one of his driver/guide buddies. You don't need them. Manila, like any other big city, does have some sketchy areas but for the most part it's safe as long as you are aware of your surroundings and not in an alcohol induced coma. I've been going to the PI (mostly AC) for years and I've never had a problem. You can take taxis anywhere you need to go and they are very cheap compared to back home. Just make sure you have them turn on the meter. Once you hook up with a girl, she'll take care of all the small things for you (like taxis).
Don't let a doorman who's out to hook up his friends keep you from enjoying the many delights of Manila. Go forth and conquer.
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newbie?
bit farmer,
you've already got some good advice. edsa will rock your world. so will burgos in makati which is much closer and might be more soothing for your newbie mentality.
your conceirge strikes me as very odd. he is either trying to protect you (because you look like a target) or is trying to win your confidence so that he can get a commission based introduction. i have no idea really...but...
tell the guy you want a girl and see what happens.
whatever he says, take notes, say thanks, then get in a taxi and go to burgos or edsa. i assure you, there have been thousands of foreign guys who have made this trek, alone, and lived, and survived and had experiences which are etched into their memories forever. damn, now that i think of it i've done it nearly a hundred times myself, alone. only a few times with a friend.
of course, if you are a wussy, just stay in your hotel room. you can probebly ask for room service.
different people have different strategies, but i always firmly and politely ask for the meter. i'll tip well if there are no arguements, no excessive beeping of the horn (rare), and no speeding up when old ladies and children are trying to cross the road.
if any of this info is any help, i'd love to hear some general info about you biz. just send private message (pm).
x
[quote=bit farmer]i found this site before i left the states, and now have arrived in manila as of friday august 18th. as it is sunday now, i shall be here for 7 more days. i am here to interview some call centers and train a some reps for my business.
i welcome the opportunity to experience the local culture - however, the conceirge at the hotel - the astoria plaza in ortigas - will not let me out at night alone - *i strongly advises you against it, sir*
i have read many of the posts here (and will contribute one, if i can get off the ground here) and it appears a visit to quezon city (heartbeat/classmates) for the high end, and perhaps the edsa complex would be good. as an fyi i'm a 40yo married guy, looking for some nice filipina affairs - not wife hunting - no need for another... so do i ditch the ring, does it matter?
my primary question is, is it ok to go to these places alone? is it fairly easy to get a fair (metered) cab ride back? anything in particular i should watch out for? i'm getting the impression from people here that this place is more dangerous than i anticipated, and in my one trip to the local sm megamall to restock all the toiletries stripped from my bags by airport security and get some food for the fridge - i was suprised to get patted down at the entrance, and by the number of security around. i didn't really do any hunting, i looked around a bit, but didn't notice a lot of looks.
in any case, i would love to explore when i'm not working/doing business - so welcome your advice for flying solo, etc... thx[/quote]
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[QUOTE=Daring Mood]Hi Jackson
I haven't posted for months, coming back to the scene after a long medical lay off and in a darling mood. Will be in Manila in two weeks and looking for recommended accomodation. Can you set up a tag under the Philippines thread covering hotels? Comments / recommendations regarding hotels are all over the shop and generall confusing. It would make it easier for all of us to find out where the best deals on monger friendly hotels in Phils are.
TIA
Daring Mood[/QUOTE]
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don't be a wus - flying solo
[quote=x man]bit farmer,
you've already got some good advice. edsa will rock your world. so will burgos in makati which is much closer and might be more soothing for your newbie mentality.
your conceirge strikes me as very odd. he is either trying to protect you (because you look like a target) or is trying to win your confidence so that he can get a commission based introduction. i have no idea really...but...
tell the guy you want a girl and see what happens.
whatever he says, take notes, say thanks, then get in a taxi and go to burgos or edsa. i assure you, there have been thousands of foreign guys who have made this trek, alone, and lived, and survived and had experiences which are etched into their memories forever. damn, now that i think of it i've done it nearly a hundred times myself, alone. only a few times with a friend.
of course, if you are a wussy, just stay in your hotel room. you can probebly ask for room service.
different people have different strategies, but i always firmly and politely ask for the meter. i'll tip well if there are no arguements, no excessive beeping of the horn (rare), and no speeding up when old ladies and children are trying to cross the road.
if any of this info is any help, i'd love to hear some general info about you biz. just send private message (pm).
x[/quote]got it x-man. this morning prior to this good 'stop being a wus' advice, i played it half safe and arranged a rendez vous with an yahoo chat i had a while back, she came an hour out of the city to see me, but nana sent her cousin (hotter) and sister (cute but young) with her - when the group finally showed up (they each had to have a turn in the shower) i knew the story, but they took me to a couple of real filipino bars and it was an absolute riot - apparently getting up on stage, singing or being a silly transvestite is popular entertainment here.
while i was waiting i wandered around the megamall, what a monsterous place - and got a significant number of raised eyebrows from some hotties - whether they were with a guy or not - and that's always a good boost - as i walked from there to starbucks to wait - i did get a few odd looks from the dudes hanging around the jeepneys, and one guy offered to sell me something 'hey joe, walla ka blah blah blah..." but it felt safe enough with plenty of people around. while i was sitting at starbucks still waiting for my date i stuck up a conversion with a chinese american who is here alone - he basically told me the same good advice - stop being a wus, forge the deal with the cabby up front, and just go - he said he was taking a night off, after having 4 different girls in the 3 days he's been here - apparently, i need to step it up a bit.
i talked with abe the conceirge, and he doesn't want me walking the streets of ortigas at night, ok, fair enough - i asked him about a girl, and his eyes lit up and he instantly referred me to the hotel driver - so bingo x-man - they are going the commission route. and i'm thinking maybe the call center people are giving me the 'too dangerous' bit because they know about wifie at home, so ok, we can keep that on the down low. i don't suppose the girls at the bars matter whether your're married or not - and i did keep that point to myself with the local girl.
i did manage to get the three local hotties back to the hotel room, couldn't separate the girls, so i steared the direction towards sex, and the only player was the hottie cousin - she had deferred to my date all night, except when we got back to the hotel - the sister of course noticed and played gate keeper, my date didn't seem to pick up the vibe but she had definately decided she was going to play good girl and if i heard her say 'it's only the first date'... one more time i was ready to send her back to high school... even the hottie cousin told her to stay, first whispering it but then just coming out and saying it - so when she shook her head no i made an attempt to get all three to *sleep over* with me on the king bed - hey there's enough room, these girls are so petite - but again the only taker was the hottie cousin, who lay down on the bed and started rubbing up her shirt across her nice flat belly - i had to move in closer to that action, at which point and young sister jumped up and said time to go. damn, i was ready to start a family feud, but i wasn't so rude as to throw the two sisters out and keep cousin nellie (wussy move, i know i know - i need to break out of my home mindset).
so my new chinese-american friend is 4 for 3 and i'm 0 for 3. just like the red sox lately. so tomorrow i'll have to step to the plate like david ortiz.
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cousins...
Thanks for the update Bit Farmer. I'm glad to hear you're making progress. Sometimes those online contacts can be a lot of fun and you can experience things you wouldn't have otherwise. I don't really understand some of the guys here who feel like they're wasting time if they don't get their target into bed in the first two hours.
Maybe your date will think twice next time she brings her cousin. I hope you got the cousin's phone number!
Have fun, X
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Ortigas
Bit Farmer,
I sent you a PM also.
I have stayed in the Ortigas area many times and have walked around at all hours of the night without ever any fear. Astoria is tucked away a little so I can understand what they were telling you--plus, there is nothing to do late-nights in that area anyways.
San Miguel Ave and Emerald Ave are where the call centers are and those places are really busy all times of night.
Sure there are the malls in Ortigas (Shangri-la Plaza, Megamall, Podium, St. Francis Square and Robinsons), there isn't much to do at nights in that area. For that reason I have moved to staying in the Makati area even though my call center is walking distance from the hotels in the Ortigas area.
As stated by others, Burgos is probably the closest to you. Taking Shaw to Edsa from your hotel shouldn't take more than 10-15 minutes without traffic. Just have the taxi drop you off anywhere and go in to a few places on Burgos. There's also some massage parlors in that area too if you're interested in a "quick" fix.
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Casino Bar in EDSA
last weekend i visited manila for the first time in over 10 years. following advice from this thread, i tried edsa entertainment complex. after resisting the aggressive charms of the staff in a few of the bars, i tried casino, which is the first place on the left as you enter the complex. having already decided that i was too tired for a root that night (after a busy couple of days previously), i chatted to a young lady named lea (as in star wars princess lea). at 27 and with one child (she still has a cute little body and no stretch marks), she's a little older than some of the other girls, however she assured me that with experience she has developed superior bj skills! though a 6 in the raw looks scale, her charming and honest personality propels her above 7 or 8 in my books.
i decided to bar fine lea (p 1,000) for what we agreed would be a very relaxing and sexy massage with multiple bbbj for about two hours. back at the hotel, we cleaned up and she gave me a very nice massage (she is a qualified therapeutic masseuse). this evolved into a great bj, long, slow and with lots of variety, just how i like it. her deep throat was great and she did that bj with slippery double handed twist thing like in the porn movies. after one pop, she cleaned me up and cuddled me for a while, so i decided to return the favour. i sucked her very sensitive tits and fingered her pussy until she had a very explosive orgasm, very quiet but she was twitching and rollling around like she was having multiples! after relaxing for a while, it was my turn again, so she gave me another bbbj which evolved into a hj with her straddling my balls in a simulated sex position. this also had the desired result! after some more recovering and a chat, she applied more lotion and gave me a lovely hj, very carefully executed with both hands and with many variations and sensations. yes, i popped again! we had previously agreed to two hours and three pops and she enjoyed meeting the challenge.
this was a very different experience for me. having decided on a lazy no sex session, lea followed our agreed rules and at no time did she attempt to reneg or upgrade. she is very customer focussed and treated the whole session like i was an honoured customer in any other service oriented business. however, it was not mechanical, she put her heart and soul into my pleasure. i gave her the agreed p 2,000 and an extra few hundred taxi fare (she lives one hour from manila and it was very late), well worth it for me. i will look for lea again when i return to manila and i can strongly recommend her for anyone who would rather be thoroughly pampered than play the lottery with the usual selection of cute but unpredictable young bar girls. i suspect that she would also be a sensational root, based on how horny she is and the way she came when i fingered her surprisingly tight little pussy. lea can be easily recognised by her eager smile and laughter, also she has a small beauty spot on the right side of her mouth.
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anybody know where a hands free resturant is?
Thanks guys for all the informative post. Does anybody know if Philippines have a hands free restaurant?
Thanks
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Asian Entertainment Center really East Asia
[QUOTE=Finrod]I went here the first weekend I was in town. What eye candy! Sheesh! My eyes were bulging. 600pp per hour to sit with a girl. Barfine was 6000pp. I think the entry was 400pp. Plus drinks and food. My total tab ran over 10000pp that night. Do not pick #113, very beautiful for a 19 year old limp fish. So little chemistry that she left in the morning without asking for tip.
About the location, I was brought there, it was raining hard that night so my memory is rather vague on that. Sorry.[/QUOTE]Drove by this place on my way out of town and country. I'm pretty sure this is really East Asia I'm talking about. And yes, YMMV a lot here. I had the crappy experience so that's left me with no desire to return here when I make it back to the Phils someday.
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Kamayan Restaurant
[QUOTE=Professional]Thanks guys for all the informative post. Does anybody know if Philippines have a hands free restaurant?
Thanks[/QUOTE]I believe the Kamayan Restaurant does. It also had a buffet style serving if you desire when I was there last. The food was excellent. The address is 532 Padre Faura Street. Check this link out [url]http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide-2767156-kamayan_restaurant_manila-i;_ylc=X3oDMTE3N2phcW1vBF9TAzI3NjY2NzkEX3MDOTY5NTUzMjUEc2VjA3NyBHNsawN0aXRsZQ--[/url]
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[QUOTE=Chivas 1]I believe the Kamayan Restaurant does. It also had a buffet style serving if you desire when I was there last. The food was excellent. The address is 532 Padre Faura Street. Check this link out [url]http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide-2767156-kamayan_restaurant_manila-i;_ylc=X3oDMTE3N2phcW1vBF9TAzI3NjY2NzkEX3MDOTY5NTUzMjUEc2VjA3NyBHNsawN0aXRsZQ--[/url][/QUOTE]
I don't think he is looking for a place that he can eat without utensils. I believe he is looking for a restaurant like the Galaxy No Hands restaurant in Bangkok where you pick a girl from the fishbowl and she feeds you at the table, while your hands are free for exploring.
Quite sure that there isn't one in Manila.
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No there isnt any
[QUOTE=LoveAsian*****s]I don't think he is looking for a place that he can eat without utensils. I believe he is looking for a restaurant like the Galaxy No Hands restaurant in Bangkok where you pick a girl from the fishbowl and she feeds you at the table, while your hands are free for exploring.
Quite sure that there isn't one in Manila.[/QUOTE]You can always get a girl to do that for you Cheers
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L.A. Cafe/P. Burgos St.
In Manila last week and visited the LA Cafe. I asked a lot of questions about the recent raid, and foreigners being hassled by cops and pretended to be afraid to hook up because of this. As a result, some of the self-proclaimed regulars became angry and walked away from me. Just wanted to let them know we do hear about such things and that bad publicity was bad for business.
Came back later and did hook up with a fun pair of girls. Both were tall, young, good looking and slim. As a precaution, I gave them 200p to take a separate cab back to my hotel. Back in the room they were an absolute riot. They were laughing and joking the whole time they were working on me. They did anything I asked them to. Gave them 1500p each.
Next night went to P. Burgos street. I am sorry, I just don't get it. This place is supposed to have the superior girls? I saw nothing “superior.” The LA Café had the same quality of girls, albeit not the same quantity, and the EDSA girls were actually better looking.
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Burgos and LA Cafe
Hi Billpsu,
Just curious, which bars did you go to on Burgos? For the first time I actually went to a couple of bars on Burgos and I have seen some really nice looking girls in some of the bars. I also went to Edsa a couple of times and have seen some good ones there also.
\I only went to 2 bars at Edsa and they both had about 50 girls. I think I saw 2-3 I considered "hot" in each.
I agree that Burgos is hit and miss at times too but I think percentage-wise, I saw more "hot" girls on Burgos. If you're comparing them to the ones on the street, I have yet to see really good looking girls on the street at Burgos. At about 4am-4:30am, there are plenty since they are all leaving the bars after they close and many will hang around the street either talking or looking for guys to pick them up.
On a side note, I was standing in front of the 7-11 tonight for about 20 minutes waiting for someone on this board and 2 ladyboys came up to me offering a massage for 500 pesos. I have to say that these 2 were not as easy to tell but to me they were quite obvious. I firmly declined and he/she said that he/she was "really horny" at which point I took a couple of steps back and declined again so they went on their way. About 5 minutes later, 2 Korean guys walk by and these 2 latch on to their arms, offer them massages, kiss them on the cheek and go walking away arm and arm... I was trying to signal them not to take them but they didn't see me. There were 2-3 others that I saw them talking to so I didn't want to risk a big scene so I let the Korean guys walk away with them.
I did see the 2 ladyboys walking back by themselves about 5 minutes later so hopefully the Koreans figured it out. I've found that the ones offering massages on Burgos for 500 pesos have been guys the 3 times I was approached.
Regarding LA Cafe, I went in on a Saturday a couple of months ago and walked around the place for a while. There were probably about 200+ girls there but I did not see any that I would have even considered. I was looking real hard for at least a decent one and looked at just about every girl in the bar but couldn't find any. I know there was a heated debate about this quite some time ago and I don't want to start it again but I just didn't see any quality when I was there.
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Careful about 500 peso BJ s on Burgos
I have also seen that gang which hangs around across the street from the matrix,They also offer BJ s for 500 pesos.I have seen them in action being picked up and going into dark corners or into cars.On the other hand,If you want a bj for 500 pesos.........I have seen some Arab Dude being blown by one of them near the side of Travellers Inn.I wonder If he knew....
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Matrix, Jools, Wild Wild West, and so on. Just went from one to another. Perhaps I over-anticipated because of all I have read. But believe me, it just was not there.
LA Cafe is hit or miss. I guess being there on a Friday/Saturday night helped. My friend also agreed that a lot of the girls there, on those particular nights, were hot.
[QUOTE=Sugoi]Hi Billpsu,
Just curious, which bars did you go to on Burgos? For the first time I actually went to a couple of bars on Burgos and I have seen some really nice looking girls in some of the bars. I also went to Edsa a couple of times and have seen some good ones there also.
\I only went to 2 bars at Edsa and they both had about 50 girls. I think I saw 2-3 I considered "hot" in each.
I agree that Burgos is hit and miss at times too but I think percentage-wise, I saw more "hot" girls on Burgos. If you're comparing them to the ones on the street, I have yet to see really good looking girls on the street at Burgos. At about 4am-4:30am, there are plenty since they are all leaving the bars after they close and many will hang around the street either talking or looking for guys to pick them up.
On a side note, I was standing in front of the 7-11 tonight for about 20 minutes waiting for someone on this board and 2 ladyboys came up to me offering a massage for 500 pesos. I have to say that these 2 were not as easy to tell but to me they were quite obvious. I firmly declined and he/she said that he/she was "really horny" at which point I took a couple of steps back and declined again so they went on their way. About 5 minutes later, 2 Korean guys walk by and these 2 latch on to their arms, offer them massages, kiss them on the cheek and go walking away arm and arm... I was trying to signal them not to take them but they didn't see me. There were 2-3 others that I saw them talking to so I didn't want to risk a big scene so I let the Korean guys walk away with them.
I did see the 2 ladyboys walking back by themselves about 5 minutes later so hopefully the Koreans figured it out. I've found that the ones offering massages on Burgos for 500 pesos have been guys the 3 times I was approached.
Regarding LA Cafe, I went in on a Saturday a couple of months ago and walked around the place for a while. There were probably about 200+ girls there but I did not see any that I would have even considered. I was looking real hard for at least a decent one and looked at just about every girl in the bar but couldn't find any. I know there was a heated debate about this quite some time ago and I don't want to start it again but I just didn't see any quality when I was there.[/QUOTE]
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LA Cafe Closed
I was sitting in LA Cafe Thursday night and I was right by the door when NBI came in to close the place down.
Sad thing is the girls knew about it before anyone else. I watched them all file out of there in droves. By the time NBI got in the door the majority of the girls had left.
NBI went straight upstairs virtually ignoring downstairs.
I just sat there and watched the show. I got bored because they shut off the music and most of the girls had left. So I headed down the street to Amazonia to play some pool.
Later on I had heard they actually closed LA for the weekend because Friday is a holiday so LA couldn't do nothing until Monday at earliest. But I have heard some unconfirmed stuff about it not reopening.
I do know that there has been a shuffle of Police Chiefs/Captains in Manila recently so hopefully it is just them flexing muscle to let everyone know who is in charge (and who to pay bribes to now.)
Also watch out for those checkpoints when you have a girl in the taxi. I have gotten pulled over a couple times and I paid the cop the first two times (Same guy.)
Now he pulls me over to say hello. I dont pay him no more but I also made it clear on #3 I was done paying. But not all cops are nice so it is smart to what this guy here says. Give the girls taxi money and let them come to your hotel in a separate taxi.
But if you do get nailed have the girl lie and say she has known you for years. Give her a few quick details to tell to the cops to try and back it up.
Best bet is to tell her to keep her mouth shut and you do all the talking. If you are here on a short trip give the cop you are talking to 2000 or so and get back in and leave when they let you go.
Keep your calm and dont get in there face. Be nice and cooperative. Pay when asked and good to go. Is easier than the hassle you will face otherwise.
[QUOTE=Billpsu]In Manila last week and visited the LA Cafe. I asked a lot of questions about the recent raid, and foreigners being hassled by cops and pretended to be afraid to hook up because of this. As a result, some of the self-proclaimed regulars became angry and walked away from me. Just wanted to let them know we do hear about such things and that bad publicity was bad for business.
Came back later and did hook up with a fun pair of girls. Both were tall, young, good looking and slim. As a precaution, I gave them 200p to take a separate cab back to my hotel. Back in the room they were an absolute riot. They were laughing and joking the whole time they were working on me. They did anything I asked them to. Gave them 1500p each.
Next night went to P. Burgos street. I am sorry, I just don't get it. This place is supposed to have the superior girls? I saw nothing “superior.” The LA Café had the same quality of girls, albeit not the same quantity, and the EDSA girls were actually better looking.[/QUOTE]
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LA Cafe closed
[QUOTE=Vinnie1369]I was sitting in LA Cafe Thursday night and I was right by the door when NBI came in to close the place down.
Sad thing is the girls knew about it before anyone else. I watched them all file out of there in droves. By the time NBI got in the door the majority of the girls had left.
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That's really bad news! Hopefully the local authorities will reconsider their decision soon. Well, I suppose now we need plan B for daytime action. Any idea where all the LA girls are hanging around instead of that?
Cheers - Hesekiels
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[QUOTE=Billpsu]Next night went to P. Burgos street. I am sorry, I just don't get it. This place is supposed to have the superior girls? I saw nothing “superior.” The LA Café had the same quality of girls, albeit not the same quantity, and the EDSA girls were actually better looking.[/QUOTE]Stunners can be found in LA Cafe, EDSA and Burgos. It is hit or miss with them all depending on the time of day/night and where you go on Burgos. The clubs you mentioned on Burgos (Matrix, WW West and Jools) are not known for where the hotties are. You should have tried Flamingo, Billboard or High Heels. Keep in mind also, that many of the stunners are usually gone by 10 PM. The Matrix is a FL bar like LA Cafe; totally hit or miss.
Generally speaking there is a larger ratio of hotties in the Burgos GRO bars than EDSA. You'll see this over time if you barhop between the two. Going to EDSA and Burgos in the same night only gives you one snapshot in time and it's not really a valid way of comparing the two. But go to both over a period of time and you'll quickly see the difference and why the longterm mongerers will say there are more quality stunners in Burgos.
Another thing to consider is that the Burgos managers usually begin training their girls how to be companions with foreigners the day they start working. If they can't speak English well, they'll have the other girls start teaching them English. They are taught proper hygeine and simple things like shaving their legs. At EDSA, these girls are their mostly for the locals so the girls with the mud between their toes remain girls with mud between their toes. This little difference between the two areas does, IMHO, does make the girls of Burgos higher quality.
The best thing to do is check out all areas including Quezon and Pasay too. Great ladies can be found in all areas. Even better though is if you have the time, make a trip to Angeles.
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Hey guys,
How close exactly is Hyatt Regency to EDSA complex? Is it literally next door, or will I have to walk for awhile?
And is it risky walking with a girl directly out of the EDSA complex back to the hotel? I'm thinking maybe I should tell her to meet me there instead after hearing about the cops and their scams.
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Hyatt Regency
The Hyatt, on Rojas, is about 2 blocks (long ones) from EDSA. I have stayed there lot's of times in the past and ussually walk over to EDSA (earlier in the evening) then take a cab back (late at night). It is less than 50 pesos. As for the police and their shakedowns ??? in all the years I have been going there I have never heard about that happening. I think that it's restricted to LA Cafe area and rare even there.
As for staying at the Hyatt, I will not stay there again, other then it's proxiemty to EDSA there is nothing else around there, no stores / sari sari to buy things like water or restaurants for food.
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[QUOTE=Ralek]Hey guys,
How close exactly is Hyatt Regency to EDSA complex? Is it literally next door, or will I have to walk for awhile?
And is it risky walking with a girl directly out of the EDSA complex back to the hotel? I'm thinking maybe I should tell her to meet me there instead after hearing about the cops and their scams.[/QUOTE]
From EDSA (entertainment) complex is a taxi ride away from Hyatt Regency, or it's a long walk. You should not get any problem with cops, but walk with any girl you meet in the bar all the way back to Hyatt is not really a good idea.
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Pretty Girls...
Hi guys!
I am new here. Im filipina girl 23 yrs old. Im just wondering if i could help you out about finding girls in manila? I have a lot of friends working in ktv and massage parlors. Have been working before in Airforce One massage. Im currently not working there now for some rest time. So...you can probably guess the quality of the girls in AF1? They're definitely hot and pretty! If there's anybody interested...just contact me.
Thanks!
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Thank you all for the great posts through the forum. I am planning a 2 week trip through the Philippines and Hong Kong and have been diligently RTFF to help me plan my trip.
I have put together a preliminary itinerary based on the information in the forums and would appreciate any input or advice (I am posting this in both the Hong Kong and Manila threads). I also do have a couple questions at the bottom which I wasn’t able to find answers to in the forums. I am not so anal as to stick to this itinerary 100%, but found it helpful in planning my trip.
I don’t mind paying more to experience the best Asia has to offer so if I have missed anything PLEASE let me know, however I only speak English so would prefer to stay to the beaten path.
Note: The maps I put together are from taking information off this site or my best guess. Please correct me if there are mistakes.
Again, any further advice for a first timer heading out would be appreciated.
Day 1 – Sunday
- arrive Manila 11am and check in at the Peninsula
- afternoon - Phoenix 1 (map attached) - expect to pay 1200 room + 1200 for girl.
- Evening – rest
Day 2 – Monday
- Afternoon - Placio Don Pedro (map attached) – expect to pay 1500 room + 1500 for girl.
- Evening – EDSA (top choices are Bullets and Arrows, Cotton Club, Firehouse, Space Girls). Expect to pay barfine 1100 + long term 1500-3000 + ladies drinks 350
Day 3 – Tuesday
- Afternoon – open – wander around Makati
- Evening – Burgos St. – Flamingo’s. Expect to pay barfine 1900 + long term 3000 + ladies drinks 300 (deducted from barfine).
Day 4 – Wednesday
- Afternoon – Air Force One – expect to pay 3000 economy (1.25hrs), 5000 business (1.5hrs), 6600 first class (2hrs). Note: afternoon rates are slightly less.
- Evening – Burgos St. (Wild West). Expect to pay barfine 1600 + 2000-3000 long term.
Day 5 – Thursday
- Afternoon – tourist stuff - Intramurous, Robinsons Mall, Manila Bay.
- Evening – LA Café if it is still open. Expect to pay up to 2000 long term.
Day 6 – Friday
- open – option for repeat, Burgos, EDSA, or a girl met on Filipino heart.
Day 7 – Saturday
- open – option for repeat, Burgos, EDSA, or a girl met on Filipino heart.
Day 8 – Sunday
- fly to Hong Kong 8pm and check in to hotel in Wan Chai.
Day 9 – Monday
- Afternoon - 141’s – Causeway Bay (Fuji Building and Hop Yee Building), and North Point (Maylun Apts) (map attached). Expect to pay HKD400-500.
- Evening – Wan Chai (Fenwicks & Neptune) (map attached). Expect to pay HKD1000-1500 long term, ladies drinks HKD75-150.
Day 10 – Tuesday
- Afternoon – K-Pressure in Jordan (map attached). Expect to pay HKD478.
- Evening – watch the light show from Tsim Sha Tsui. Go to Sticky Fingers (map attached). Expect to pay HKD1000-1500 long term.
Day 11 – Wednesday
- Morning – catch the ferry to Macau.
- Afternoon – 18 Sauna on 6th floor Golden Dragon Hotel. Expect to pay HKD1300 including ferry.
Day 12 – Thursday
- Afternoon – Sun Hot Sauna in Tsim Sha Tsui (map attached). Expect to pay HKD160 entrance + 366 massage / 566 hj / 766 fs.
- Evening – New Paris – can someone please provide directions to find this?? Before 8pm expect to pay HKD2500 (1000 club + 1500 girl).
Day 13 – Friday
- open
Day 14 – Saturday
- head home.
Questions:
Philippines:
1) Phoenix 1 – could somebody let me know how to find this place. One post said it was a lobby with no name between a JVC and iBank sign. Another post said it was in the Roman Suites Hotel. Any clarification would be appreciated.
2) Is there anything else interesting to do in Manila? I spent all my time RTFF and don’t have a clue what else to do there.
3) There was some talk about the “Asian Entertainment Complex”. Could somebody let me know any further details and location.
Hong Kong
1) New Paris Club – could somebody let me know where this is. I saw a post saying on Chatham Road, but where abouts?
2) Wan Chai vs. Tsim Sha Tsui – it seems that hotels are slightly cheaper in Wan Chai, is there downfalls from staying on this side to make it more compelling to stay in Tsim Sha Tsui.
3) Macau – I only plan on 1 day there so intend to go to 18 Sauna, is this a mistake and should I go to Darling 1 instead?
4) Beer – I know San Miguel would be the beer to drink in Manila, what is the popular beer in Hong Kong?
Thanks again for all the valuable advice on these boards
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questions:
philippines:
1) phoenix 1 – could somebody let me know how to find this place. one post said it was a lobby with no name between a jvc and ibank sign. another post said it was in the roman suites hotel. any clarification would be appreciated.
2) is there anything else interesting to do in manila? i spent all my time rtff and don’t have a clue what else to do there.
3) there was some talk about the “asian entertainment complex”. could somebody let me know any further details and location.
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you have done your homework. a fine schedule. to answer your questions
1) it is on the third floor of the roman suites hotel. the hotel is right between the jvc sign and ibank sign. the hotel only has a banner for sign, so the jvc and ibank signs are a better indication on how to find it.
2) check out the glorietta mall/greenbelt and mall of asia (third largest mall in the world). typical stuff like fine restaurants, movies, imax, ice skating. girls love being taken there. take a girl to star city or enchanted kingdom. cheezy amuzment parks, but still lots of fun with a nice girl. stroll along baywalk and check out the bands and cheap food. checkout the outdoor market at market! market! (fort benafacio). do some go cart racing (opposite home depot in fort benafacio). take a day trip to subic or tagaytay.
3) i believe the poster was referring to east asia club on roxas. a very expensive rip off place. however, their showroom did have maybe the best line up of any club i have found in the philippines (except for maybe alerio in las pinas). i don't think you will get out of there for less then about 12,000 between barfine, entrance, and drinks.
a couple of side notes. buy a cell phone as soon as you get to manila. a new run will cost about 3,000 and a used one about 2,000. it will make it much easier to set things up with girls. also, write your number on a piece of paper multiple times and keep it in your wallet. you can just tear off a piece if you have to give a girl your number. i've been living here for over a year, and i just figured this out! missed out on two fantastic opportunities in one week because the girls didn't have cell phones and i didn't give them my number. very common if you have the opportunity to pick up a girl who is not working and doesn't have money to buy a cell. in both cases, the girls were friends of the girl i was with. also in both cases, my girl was supposed to act as the go between. all of a sudden, one of the girls "cant get in touch with her friend". the other one won't return my texts. it seams kind of obvious, but dont rely on a girl who likes you (or your money) to help you go with her friend.
on a side note, i am feeling a little concerned recently about going with girls who could be ****. in many cases, you find girls who say they are 18, but they look younger. since so many 16 year olds look 18, and many 18 year olds look 16, this can be a real problem. many say they don't have ids, or have fake ones. in the past, i really didn't care as long as they said they were 18 and they looked as though they could be. i now find myself being vary wary of these situations. not sure why, but out here, you have to go with you gut. recently, i was meeting a girl for the third time that i got from the cotton club. she had a very petite body, but an older face. she said she was 18, and i honestly had no idea. on our thrid meeting, she shows up with a really young looking girl. she says she was her friend and she would wait outside. but when we get to the hotel, they both come in. the whole time they were texting nonstop. i get concerned that maybe it was a setup. the young girl finally goes outside. i was so paranoid, that i had a hard time having sex with the girl. afterwards, the other girl comes in. it turns out the very young looking girl is 19. she is not a working girl and shows me a couple of id's. she was petite, simple and a virgin, which made her look younger than she was. she could easily pass for 15. but i had put myself in a bad position. i'm in a hotel room with two girls, both could have been ****, and one looked liked she was 15. and they wer both texting like crazy. everything worked out fine, but it was still a very bad idea. you should never get yourself in that position.
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Aggressive Agenda
You might find your schedule turns out to be too aggressive. Be open to changes, remember, the idea is to have fun.
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Phoenix
I was just at Phoenix and there is no sign on the building any longer. It is a plain buidling with nothing on it but it is between the JVC building and i-bank.
The guards ask you when you enter if you are going to Phoenix.
BTW, apparently it was never called Phoenix1. It has always been Phoenix Gentleman's Club...
Also, regarding prices, the prices change depending on what time of day. PDP is 1000 from 2am to noon, 1500 from noon to 6pm and 2000 from 6pm to 2am. The girl receives either 1500 or 2000 depending on the time.
Tips at Phoenix are usually 1500. The girl may insist on 2000 but you can get away with 1500.
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The Reincarnation of Dannah Mae?
09-03-06 at 14:34 #1874
Verna
Regular Member
Reports: 1 Pretty Girls...
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Hi guys!
I am new here. Im filipina girl 23 yrs old. Im just wondering if i could help you out about finding girls in manila? I have a lot of friends working in ktv and massage parlors. Have been working before in Airforce One massage. Im currently not working there now for some rest time. So...you can probably guess the quality of the girls in AF1? They're definitely hot and pretty! If there's anybody interested...just contact me.
Thanks!
Why Jackson allows his board to be hijacked by spammers/pimps is beyond me. While anybody wioth ANY common sense would stay a mile away from this type of nonsense (once you get to Manila there are more available girls than ANYBODY can handle without resorting to pimps), I'm guessing she will get dozens of breathless responses. Suckers are born every minute, like the Japanese guy I saw at the airport last night asking "where to get a taxi". Of course he was directed to the cartel of criminals charging 500P (or more). Had he READ a little bit, he would know that by walking outside with traffic towards the right where the flyover ends you can get a taxi who just dropped his passenger and will take you anywhere in Manila for 100Piso (better than no fare at all dibah?). I give a tip of 50Piso ONLY IF the guy does not try and renegotiate the fare once we are on our way (if they DO I say sternly "you can let me out right here and I will find another who wants my 100Piso).
FWIW, when I arrived at NAIA yesterday at 7.30pm on the TG flight from BKK it was LOVELY because there were no crowds at all. What a wonderful change from the old days when all the PAL flights from US and YVR would arrive at 5am in a veritable circus (was MUCH worse before the Centennial Terminal opened removing the PAL flights from NAIA).
The new lighting on Roxas is wonderful and there were bands playing outside across from Diamond Hotel and TONS of babae on the cruiser. Nice to be back.
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[QUOTE=Surfer]09-03-06 at 14:34 #1874
Verna
Regular Member
Reports: 1 Pretty Girls...
The new lighting on Roxas is wonderful and there were bands playing outside across from Diamond Hotel and TONS of babae on the cruiser. Nice to be back.[/QUOTE]
Sure it is indeed... but too bad;
I was in town for two nights but it is surprising that when I informed one of my GF (from 6 years back when I was staying in Philippines) of my arrival she came to pick me up at the Airport. Even more surprised is that she had another one of my ex-GF (whom they do not know each other when I left Ph) together with her! I got to found out that they are now working together and happens to share photos of their ex-BF and pow! I was their common BF before! Dam... they stucked to me for the whole trip! I even have to bring them along acting as my secretary and Assistant (more of Sexytaries) for business meetings!
Sorry Cebu Local, I initially planned to meet up with you this trip but dammed! I got stuck! Next time I should nt inform any one of my arrival otherwise, I got a feeling that it will end up like this.
Back to ISG main topic; as we were out at nights, we drove pass several of the mongering places and looks like they hadn't change at all.. still full of life, full of fun! If not more!
I'll like to come back to live here once again... hopefully soon... now I am back in Singapore and catching my flight back to China.
Manila... still a great place!
I'll be back!
AG
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Sorry I missed you
[QUOTE=Ace Gallant]Sure it is indeed... but too bad;
I was in town for two nights but it is surprising that when I informed one of my GF (from 6 years back when I was staying in Philippines) of my arrival she came to pick me up at the Airport. Even more surprised is that she had another one of my ex-GF (whom they do not know each other when I left Ph) together with her! I got to found out that they are now working together and happens to share photos of their ex-BF and pow! I was their common BF before! Dam... they stucked to me for the whole trip! I even have to bring them along acting as my secretary and Assistant (more of Sexytaries) for business meetings!
Sorry Cebu Local, I initially planned to meet up with you this trip but dammed! I got stuck! Next time I should nt inform any one of my arrival otherwise, I got a feeling that it will end up like this.
Back to ISG main topic; as we were out at nights, we drove pass several of the mongering places and looks like they hadn't change at all.. still full of life, full of fun! If not more!
I'll like to come back to live here once again... hopefully soon... now I am back in Singapore and catching my flight back to China.
Manila... still a great place!
I'll be back!
AG[/QUOTE]Sorry I missed you,Then I could have replaced What Dragon D drunk.I think you know that mongering places here cannot match Shanghai places in Services Red Ropes anyone.........Back to main topic Manila still is livlier and friendlier then SH.This more then makes up for the average of Red ropes and Prostate massage.See you in SH soon.I hope Jackson doesnt mind the crosstalk but We are both China Board Members who dont have the crosstalk rule.
Regarding DM I checked,She is still busy with her small business,Food stalls etc so That Verna is defenitely not DM reincarnated,But she should stay in the classified Ads Cheers
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News Flash: La Cafe Is Closed
there is a notice of closure on the door reminiscent of the days of mayor lim
(the christian conservative mf who originally "cleaned up" ermita in the early 90s). when i asked the security guard she mentioned something about it being under renovation since last friday but peeking in showed no evidence of construction. their website apears to have last been updated last month but no mention of any renovation plans.
she directed me to stringfellows across the street. i did notice several gogo bars that appeared to be new along mabini in malate, but i suppose i will either hit pburgos or edsa tonight before going to davao tomorrow.
hot here (africa hot!) and not rainy (it is supposedly rainy season). and getting pricier by the day as the philippine piso is about to go under 50 to the american peso, thai baht under 37 and japanese yen to 110. your tax dollars at work as the us government attempts to complete the 6 year process of turning the us into a third world country.
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LA Cafe Updates
If it is true that LA Cafe is closed this is devastating news!!! I think we need a special thread to report on any updates as last year when I was in Manila I visited there virtually every day with great results on every visit!! I've already booked my next trip there this New Year and I need to know the alternatives - where will all the freelancers go?
Nothing like being able to go to a bar, no bar fine, take your time in picking out your girl for the night, play a little pool, listen to a band, dance a bit, drink a bit etc etc etc
Oh well, I guess there's always the malls!
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LA Cafe
Spoke to my gf yesterday who works downstairs. She is so worried, shes wants me to pay her airfare back to Davao where she will take care of her kids and a small freehold house in Davao that she purchased from 1 year in the bar.
If this is the mindset of two girls (her sister is leaving as well but a week later) then when LA Cafe finally reopens (if it does) some of the more popular, more attractive girls will be gone.
Im not saying that my gf wont be back to LA (I would like to think she wont be back there) but it will take a long cooldown period before some of these girls will return from the provinces.
My girl wants me to spend my next holiday in Davao with her and to meet her family. hmmmm.
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LA Cafe update It shall be missed
I had Coffee with my friend the Regional director of the Department of Tourism and asked about the LA Cafe and He confirmed that Mayor Atienza of Manila personally ordered it shut down PERMANENTLY.It unfortunately became too famous for its own good.Guys who know me real life can confirm that I am one of the Tourism leaders here in the PI.So can we have a moment of silence for the memory of LA Cafe.
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Say it ain't so Joe...
Closing an historical landmark like the LA Cafe is akin to desecration of a shrine! Typical of this place though to shut down a thriving business which provided legitimate employment to dozens of people and part-time, slightly less legitimate employment to literally hundreds of others. Don't you just love social policy by fiat? No due process, no wrangling in the courts, and no legal basis. What happened? The Cafe didn't pay enough? Didn't pay the right people? Or were the owners just making too much money and it pissed off the local greed meisters?
Maybe we should all sign a petitiion asking for a commerorative brass plaque to be installed at the site.
Sic transit gloria mundi. Rest in peace LA.
:D
GE
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Goodbye LA Cafe Hello ???
Just as the Blue Dolphin before it, LA Cafe will reinvent itself with a new name/owners and carry on the fine tradition that we have come to expect from that fine establishment.
Excelsior
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And now?
Brothers, the news about LA closing is very sad. Every time I went to Angeles, I loved to stay the last days in Manila, going every night to LA. I listed it to my friends like one of the 5 pussy temples in the world (Sophie in PP, Stadium in JAK, Eden in BKK, Help in Rio and LA in MNL)
And now? All the girls go to Amazonia and the other bars near the Robinson mall? Somebody has last news? To the end of september I will travel to Philippines another time, and I have no time to lose!
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Sic transit gloria mundi.
GE, what planet are you from?
Sic transit gloria mundi =
Thus passes the glory of the world
or
Fame is fleeting
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LA Cafe
[QUOTE=Mattrick]Just as the Blue Dolphin before it, LA Cafe will reinvent itself with a new name/owners and carry on the fine tradition that we have come to expect from that fine establishment.
Excelsior[/QUOTE]
Well, at least this gives hope and comforts a little! Hopefully you are right!
Cheers - Hesekiels
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LA closing
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]I had Coffee with my friend the Regional director of the Department of Tourism and asked about the LA Cafe and He confirmed that Mayor Atienza of Manila personally ordered it shut down PERMANENTLY.It unfortunately became too famous for its own good.Guys who know me real life can confirm that I am one of the Tourism leaders here in the PI.So can we have a moment of silence for the memory of LA Cafe.[/QUOTE]
to cebu local
Is this going to be the start of city cleaning , Will the mayor going to close
the bar in Burgo or he just didn't like LA cafe.
fast eddie 48
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[QUOTE=X Man]GE, what planet are you from?
Sic transit gloria mundi =
Thus passes the glory of the world
or
Fame is fleeting[/QUOTE]
Yes, it did seem appropriate, and thanks for demonstrating that you too understood what I meant. Not a contrarian at all, but merely trying to state that there's little of permanence on which one can count, even in the tawdry arena of mongering.
Pax vobiscum,
GE
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My guess is that LACafe was drawing too much business away from the Burgos and EDSA establishments.
On the other hand, this article about contraceptives seems to indicate he may be very conservative:
[url]http://www.pcij.org/stories/print/2005/pills.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]to cebu local
Is this going to be the start of city cleaning , Will the mayor going to close
the bar in Burgo or he just didn't like LA cafe.
fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]
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Dashing Dkhead suggests I was attacking GE, which, of course, I was not. Suggesting that GE was from another planet (he was using a language that is no longer used on this planet) was probably taken as a compliment by GE, but if it wasn't -- I apologize.
I thought it was interesting the way GE used Latin in his post. I had to look it up to understand it and then posted my findings just in case anyone else was curious.
Dashing ends his post with "peace be with you". Yeah, right.
X
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Manila Airport
I don't know if this is the right forum, but I try. I am going to Philippines (Manila and Angeles) for the time, and just to prepare everything I tried to check info on the airport. Do I understand it right, that you cannot go into the airport if you don't have a ticket, and an E-ticket is not enough? If so, what should I do to get into the airport when I am going back?
Thank you,
Klon
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Mayor Lito
[QUOTE=X Man]My guess is that LACafe was drawing too much business away from the Burgos and EDSA establishments.
On the other hand, this article about contraceptives seems to indicate he may be very conservative:
[url]http://www.pcij.org/stories/print/2005/pills.html[/url][/QUOTE]
I lived in Manila for many years. During both Fred Lim's regime and Lito Atienza's and became very close to Mayor Lim. He had many events at my facility during the time he ran for president. Lito was his vice mayor and is pious and sanctimonious hypocrite IMOHO. Total double standards. Just wants to stay Mayor and will do what ever it takes to do that.
I seriously doubt he will close down all the other places. LA Cafe owners probably just crossed him and he slapped them down.
Nothing much has changed since I moved away from Manila 6 years ago and nothing is likely to change in the next six.
All just editorial BS from ES
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Manila Airport
[QUOTE=Klon15]I don't know if this is the right forum, but I try. I am going to Philippines (Manila and Angeles) for the time, and just to prepare everything I tried to check info on the airport. Do I understand it right, that you cannot go into the airport if you don't have a ticket, and an E-ticket is not enough? If so, what should I do to get into the airport when I am going back?
Thank you,
Klon[/QUOTE]
Yes, you need a ticket to go into the airport, but an E-ticket is perfectly ok! Believe you me, no problem at all!
Happy trip - Hesekiels
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[QUOTE=Klon15]I don't know if this is the right forum, but I try. I am going to Philippines (Manila and Angeles) for the time, and just to prepare everything I tried to check info on the airport. Do I understand it right, that you cannot go into the airport if you don't have a ticket, and an E-ticket is not enough? If so, what should I do to get into the airport when I am going back?
Thank you,
Klon[/QUOTE]You will be required to demonstrate that you are scheduled to travel at the time you arrive at the airport. An e-ticket is fine, as long as you can show any supporting docs such as a computer printout. On my return trip last June, I showed a Travelocity email on my PDA, and security passed me through.
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e ticket
have used e ticket before and is perfectly acceptable along with your passport.
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Manila Airport
Klon,
I travelled from Manila airport recently. I simply mumbled "e-ticket" to the security guy at the terminal entrance and he let me in. It might be safe for you to have a printed copy of your e-ticket just in case you encounter a more officious reception.
On a similar note, be aware that Manila Airport has invoked the full Trans-Atlantic no liquids in carry on baggage rules. Before you go to the airport, make sure all of your liquids (after shave, toothpaste, KY jelly, lotion, ointment tubes, deodorant) are packed in your checked baggage to avoid hassles at the security screening checkpoint.
Have fun
[QUOTE=Klon15]I don't know if this is the right forum, but I try. I am going to Philippines (Manila and Angeles) for the time, and just to prepare everything I tried to check info on the airport. Do I understand it right, that you cannot go into the airport if you don't have a ticket, and an E-ticket is not enough? If so, what should I do to get into the airport when I am going back?
Thank you,
Klon[/QUOTE]
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Trip
Guys,
Thanks for the info and advice as I finalize the plans for my trip. One last area where I would like to seek the collective knowledge of the board.
I intend on meeting up with 1 girl I met in Filipino Heart. So far she doesn't strike me as being a pro. She has a job and seems above board (although I am sure all these girls portray this). She keeps talking about heading out to the disco with her friends. I imagine I am being set up for a night out on the town courtesy of the Westerner. I don't mind being a little bit generous, but I just hate the thought of being taken advantage of. Should I be concerned? Should I think differently of this girls intentions because of this? Should I avoid this? Or is this just the filipino way?
Any advice would be appreciated.
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[QUOTE=Weekender 123]Guys,
Thanks for the info and advice as I finalize the plans for my trip. One last area where I would like to seek the collective knowledge of the board.
I intend on meeting up with 1 girl I met in Filipino Heart. So far she doesn't strike me as being a pro. She has a job and seems above board (although I am sure all these girls portray this). She keeps talking about heading out to the disco with her friends. I imagine I am being set up for a night out on the town courtesy of the Westerner. I don't mind being a little bit generous, but I just hate the thought of being taken advantage of. Should I be concerned? Should I think differently of this girls intentions because of this? Should I avoid this? Or is this just the filipino way?
Any advice would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
You're talking about a small amount of money either way. Taking out a bunch of girls to a disco should cost no more than about $40 and you will likely have a good time and maybe meet some beautiful girls who you can possibly hook up with if you handle it right.
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Trip
Everyone seems to be worried about getting ripped off by "Pros". You are more likely to get ripped off by taxi drivers in Manila, from what I experienced. I only met 1 or 2 potential scammers out of over 40 girls.
You will be able to tell the rip offs, just don't judge too quickly. Generally, if you are going out to lunch, a picnic, etc., you will be paying for everyone. Some will try to reciprocate in a fashion that they can afford, but you will be appreciated.
Just enjoy yourself and don't buy anybody (or her brother) a Tryke and you'll have a good time, LOL.
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Filapina Heart
I too have tinkered paying the subscription for Filapina Heart cos some of the girls there appear very hot and not from a bar existance. But as i already have a girl from LA Cafe who im very fond of I only want to have fun but with a non-bargirl type of girl.
I have a girl in Cebu who i spent one night with from Blackhole, She finished her bargirl career and back going to school. I was contemplating spending a few days with her in Cebu and then the scam came, mu aunty won't support me anymore and i need 10k pesos a month to survive.
Fxxk me, tell me a filapina/filopino that needs 10k a month to survive.
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Explanation
[QUOTE=Weekender 123]Guys,
Thanks for the info and advice as I finalize the plans for my trip. One last area where I would like to seek the collective knowledge of the board.
I intend on meeting up with 1 girl I met in Filipino Heart. So far she doesn't strike me as being a pro. She has a job and seems above board (although I am sure all these girls portray this). She keeps talking about heading out to the disco with her friends. I imagine I am being set up for a night out on the town courtesy of the Westerner. I don't mind being a little bit generous, but I just hate the thought of being taken advantage of. Should I be concerned? Should I think differently of this girls intentions because of this? Should I avoid this? Or is this just the filipino way?
Any advice would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
Filipina girls usually show potential Boyfriends to their friends so that they can give their opinion of you,Get used to it,Its cultural
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EDSA Complex Talent Level HORRIBLE IMHO
my honeyko needed a nap so I slipped down to meet a friend/client at Heritage and we took a mosy across the street. PitStop had 2 doable ones, Cotton club the same, Firestation ZERO and so on. Granted it was Sunday night but WOW has the caliber of pekpek declined if last night was at all representitive of the current status quo. With Visions gone, LA Cafe closed and the talent at EDSA so poor that I was not even really tempted, what used to be Manila's primary redeeming feature is less and less so.
On the other hand, my Chery Blossoms honeyko has turned into pure gold and I am a well satiated maliboog (:
PS Mall of Asia on Sunday was SO packed with babes it made your head spin (though I had to be careful). The ice skating rink in particular offers a plethora of pekpek there for the plucking.
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Read on another board that xyz member was talking to owner of LA Cafe at G-Point and he told him LAC would open today (Monday 11th Sept)
Can anybody comfirm????
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Received a email saying the same thing
[QUOTE=Asiafloyd]Read on another board that xyz member was talking to owner of LA Cafe at G-Point and he told him LAC would open today (Monday 11th Sept)
Can anybody comfirm????[/QUOTE]Asiafloyd,
I received an email from a girl who actually works at the LA CAFE and she told me in the email that the owner told her they would be re-opening this week. I know how things go in the PI so I was reluctant to post anything since it would be a rumour and because of what Cebu Local posted.
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First of all, listen to CL.
Second, I don't know YOUR situtaion, but I could easily take out three or four Filipinas (half my age) for a night out on the town for less than what it costs me for a date HERE. (Nevertheless, the last date HERE turned out to be a a multi orgasmic squealer, so I'm not complaining)
Third, if you like discos, you'll have fun. If not, suggest another venue.
Fourth, listen to CL
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[QUOTE=Weekender 123]Guys,
Thanks for the info and advice as I finalize the plans for my trip. One last area where I would like to seek the collective knowledge of the board.
I intend on meeting up with 1 girl I met in Filipino Heart. So far she doesn't strike me as being a pro. She has a job and seems above board (although I am sure all these girls portray this). She keeps talking about heading out to the disco with her friends. I imagine I am being set up for a night out on the town courtesy of the Westerner. I don't mind being a little bit generous, but I just hate the thought of being taken advantage of. Should I be concerned? Should I think differently of this girls intentions because of this? Should I avoid this? Or is this just the filipino way?
Any advice would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
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friends of the gf
[QUOTE=Weekender 123]Guys,
She keeps talking about heading out to the disco with her friends. I imagine I am being set up for a night out on the town courtesy of the Westerner. I don't mind being a little bit generous, but I just hate the thought of being taken advantage of. Should I be concerned? Should I think differently of this girls intentions because of this? Should I avoid this? Or is this just the filipino way?
Any advice would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Hi Weekender,
I just returned home from a 2+ week trip to Manila - no doubt you will be paying to take a girl and her friends out - so enjoy it. As mentioned already, it doesn't cost much, and you will be taken care of in other ways. Besides, where else can you get the attentions of 2 or 3 cute girls - flirt with them all, they will like it, keep your touching to the target of course, until they move otherwise.
While there I met up with 2 internet chats, and three different bars girls whom I had given my number to to meet up later (so to avoid the barfine but still enjoy the girl). In every case, when we met, the girl came with friend or friends attached. It's all good, they are protecting themselves and getting their friends opinion. Dinner and drinks, plus a cover charge if you go to a club and even the multiple plates of food they will order over the course of the night, will cost you 2000-3000 pesos for the night. In my case, for just food and drinks I ended up with a couple of two-on-ones, two times I paid for the accompany's taxi home to have the target girl stay over, and one time I had to wait for a 2nd date. Unlike barfines, in these situations when the girls stayed over, they never asked for anything upfront or in the morning... not once. Although if they were good (and they all were, actually, better than the girls I paid the barfines for) I did give them 1000p and they seemed quite pleased - and a couple never looked at the amount, just tucked it into her jeans or purse - and that pretty much guaranteed they would txt me again for another date... and alone the 2nd time around... But like me you will likely run out of time before you run out of girls.
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Thanks
Guys,
Thanks for the advice and for bringing me back to reality. How I could budget $200/day for mongering and then worry about a $50 bill to take some locals out for a night on the town seems ridiculous now.
Thanks again for the insight and I will report back after my trip.
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LA Cafe
Anyone heard any news on the LA Cafe?
Does anyone know any sites where we can find out any info?
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Surfer]my honeyko needed a nap so I slipped down to meet a friend/client at Heritage and we took a mosy across the street. PitStop had 2 doable ones, Cotton club the same, Firestation ZERO and so on. Granted it was Sunday night but WOW has the caliber of pekpek declined if last night was at all representitive of the current status quo. With Visions gone, LA Cafe closed and the talent at EDSA so poor that I was not even really tempted, what used to be Manila's primary redeeming feature is less and less so.
On the other hand, my Chery Blossoms honeyko has turned into pure gold and I am a well satiated maliboog (:
PS Mall of Asia on Sunday was SO packed with babes it made your head spin (though I had to be careful). The ice skating rink in particular offers a plethora of pekpek there for the plucking.[/QUOTE]
One thing you have to realize at Edsa--or any bar for that matter, is that most of the top girls have every other Sunday off.
So, sundays usually have a very diluted pool of talent. The mid-level girls often take weekdays off since it is slower but the top ones can afford to take every other Sunday off since they usually have customers any day of the week.
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[QUOTE=Sugoi]One thing you have to realize at Edsa--or any bar for that matter, is that most of the top girls have every other Sunday off.
So, sundays usually have a very diluted pool of talent. The mid-level girls often take weekdays off since it is slower but the top ones can afford to take every other Sunday off since they usually have customers any day of the week.[/QUOTE]Ah damn! My ONLY night in Manila will be a Sunday....
What should I do? Are there other places I can go to on a Sunday that would be better?
Or what about during the day on Monday?
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My LA CAFE Update 4 Whatever It Is Worth...
I just got done speaking to my friend and was told they have been doing some updating inside and that it will be open on Friday. Who knows though as Friday could be weeks from now as this is the Philippines!. Anyone have any factual updates?.
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Campaign Contribution?????
[QUOTE=Chivas 1]I just got done speaking to my friend and was told they have been doing some updating inside and that it will be open on Friday. Who knows though as Friday could be weeks from now as this is the Philippines!. Anyone have any factual updates?.[/QUOTE]
I have rumors of negotiations for a possibile massive donation to the Mayoral run of Mayor Atienza s son for Mayorship,This is the Philippines If the price is right.......
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donations
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]I have rumors of negotiations for a possibile massive donation to the Mayoral run of Mayor Atienza s son for Mayorship,This is the Philippines If the price is right.......[/QUOTE]
to cebu local
I think you should buy LA cafe and rename it Cebu cafe give a donations to the new mayor so he will not close you down , This way the girl will have a place to go instead of the street corner.
Please let us know I am sure some of us are willing to invest a percent or two.
fast eddie 48
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LA Cafe Status
It's easy enough to just give them a call... +6325267592. I did so a few hours ago. The staffer who answered confims that they are closed and that there is "no update" as to when they will re-open. So much for my weekend trip there... rerouted to Jakarta. This is why all mongers should have a viable "Plan B." Enjoy MNL, AR+
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another board says they were clamped with a one month closure penalty. dont know how credible his source is.
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My source
My source is Department of Tourism Regional Director for Metro Manila Renato Chua who is a friend of Mayor Lito Atienza.Sorry No Sure news beyond negotiations ongoing,
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Ermita
Was down at LA Cafe on Monday. Everyone, including the security guard, was saying that they would open Tuesday. Since Tuesday has come and gone, so much for rumors. Stringfellows has opened their doors to freelancers. The problem is that it is a small bar. It was so packed, I just had to leave. I used to enjoy hanging out their and chatting and occasionally barfining a cute bargirl. But with the number of customers there their, finding a cute bargirl is now impossible.
Been hanging out in Las Pinas a lot recently. See my recent post on the scene there. I have been to many of the KTV and bars there. In case anyone goes down there, The three that should not be missed are Alerio, Glamori and "The House". To find the House, keep on going down Zapote Road. You will see a big sign on the right for 22nd Street Club. Keep on going. The next big sign is some funky Korean sign. The place looks like a house with lots of lights.
In all three of the above the places, there is a barfine and most girls will go out, but it can be hit and miss.
Also, new bar in Makati - Wow. Opposite Jools. Small place, but not bad
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LoveAsianWhores....Everyone?
Thank you LoveAsian*****s for your update and taking the time to checkout the La Cafe. It would seem if "everyone" including the security guard was telling you that they would be opening on Tuesday, something must be happening as the La Cafe still has people working and on payroll. I am sure they are not just working for free. This corralates exactly to what my friend told me that she was actually working inside doing some updating. I cannot believe they would be updating and having security guards, e.c.t. there if the place was not going to be reopened.
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other club?
Now that LA is nor more, wouldn't that benefit the other clubs in the area. I posted a while back about a club within 1 block that was dead at the time but should be thriving now, unless there was also a message to the other clubs to clean up their act or sauffer the same fate as LA. Any thoughts? I will be there in october and would hate to think of going back to burgos aFter getting used to the LA Café. On second thought. there are worse things...
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[QUOTE=Ralek]Ah damn! My ONLY night in Manila will be a Sunday....
What should I do? Are there other places I can go to on a Sunday that would be better?
Or what about during the day on Monday?[/QUOTE]
Don't get me wrong, there are still girls there, just not as many as on other days and a lot of the better ones are off. If you just go on a Sunday, you might not even know--it's only if you have been on other nights to compare.
However, there are some of the students who only work weekends that may be there but those aren't as common.
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Heard LA Cafe Reopened
somebody posted on one of the private boards that LA Cafe is back in business. Can anybody confirm?
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[QUOTE=Surfer]somebody posted on one of the private boards that LA Cafe is back in business. Can anybody confirm?[/QUOTE]
As of Saturday night the 16th, it was not open.
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Amazonia??
I think that is the name of the club up the street. turn left as you exit LA for about a blockon the other side of the street. If you're stopping by LA Café, check it out and report. They had short-time rooms upstairs as well.....
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LA Cafe - a requiem?
Maiden (and lengthy) post here – I sincerely hope it is not both an eye-witness account of the death knell of a favourite haunt and a requiem.
I was at LA Cafe, just like member Hesekiels, the night the closedown occurred. Earlier that night, had walked through a horde of curious onlookers and police personnel into the pub ... and into an atmosphere like that of a chicken coop where the chickens were aware that predators were in their midst and were blocking the sole escape route. Most of the ladies were more intent on flight than on frolic.
Naively, I thought the hubbub would die down and it would be business as usual as the night progressed. Sigh, no way! Soon thereafter, all the diehard customers who were refusing to call it a night were, politely, asked to leave.
Loath to return to an empty bed, I dawdled outside LA as a reluctant onlooker, watching through the transfixing glare of TV cameras: a policeman giving an interview; ladies (the waitresses, even) being directed towards police personnel; and the constant stream of hope-laden but soon-to-be-disappointed mongers arriving variously by car, taxi and on foot.
Luckily for me, about a handful of minutes later, J - one of my regulars who seemed to be unaware of what had transpired - arrived, so I did have pleasant company that night.
The following day, I was informed separately by two other lady friends that the pub would be closed for a week, and for a fortnight; while a security person stated that it might open on Monday (Sept 4). The worst-case scenario - as stated by a local buddy - would involve an indefinite closure. He said this had happened to another pub, which has a so-far-permanent "Closed" notice on its door.
More recent posts here may make this statement a prophetic one. Ummm ... hope this is not the case, as, in my limited experience, I haven't found another venue in this area as diversely- and as well-populated; as monger-friendly; and as affordable as LA.
Regarding alternatives, the aforementioned J suggested Amazonia as one. This pub is a short walk up from LA. Keep LA to your left and after a couple of minutes you should come to this pub on the opposite side of the road.
A few asides:
1) Stringfellows, the pub adjacent to LA, supposedly shares the same management as that of LA. My opinion (please note, it is only my opinion): The one time I visited it, found it relatively claustrophobic; the waitresses lacked the bonhomie and camaraderie of their LA sisters (whose effusive, solicitous, and – sadly – chaste, ministrations I now recall quite fondly); and the draught beer I ordered was slightly more aqueous than what I'm used to.
2) Amazonia had a comparatively pleasant ambiance, but the quality and quantity of ladies over the two nights I visited it earlier this month did not compare favourably with those at LA. However, as this was immediately in the LA aftermath, they may have decided to lay low till the fracas died down.
3) Some of the former LA habitués whom I met at these two pubs appeared quite jittery, having been forced out of their regular and comfortable habitat into a (relatively) alien environment. Some of these ladies, who had preferred formerly to bestow their attentions exclusively upon our deep-pocketed fellow-mongers from further east, sported broad, “come-hither” smiles upon espying us (maybe as those whom they could link to their erstwhile demesne) - something that would have happened in LA only after hell froze over. Some of us would surely have found happy pickings during that period. I did. :-D.
P.S. Work has brought me back to an LA-less Manila (at least as indicated by the most recent posts). I am calling my few regulars to see if it is "business as usual" for them and am preparing an FR (less lengthy than this one though, :-0) of the situation as I perceive it. Will also find out if the members of the former LA sorority have an alternative congregation point.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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LA Cafe - a requiem?
Maiden (and lengthy) post here – I sincerely hope it is not both an eye-witness account of the death knell of a favourite haunt and a requiem.
I was at LA Cafe, just like member Hesekiels, the night the closedown occurred. Earlier that night, had walked through a horde of curious onlookers and police personnel into the pub ... and into an atmosphere like that of a chicken coop where the chickens were aware that predators were in their midst and were blocking the sole escape route. Most of the ladies were more intent on flight than on frolic.
Naively, I thought the hubbub would die down and it would be business as usual as the night progressed. Sigh, no way! Soon thereafter, all the diehard customers who were refusing to call it a night were, politely, asked to leave.
Loath to return to an empty bed, I dawdled outside LA as a reluctant onlooker, watching through the transfixing glare of TV cameras: a policeman giving an interview; ladies (the waitresses, even) being directed towards police personnel; and the constant stream of hope-laden but soon-to-be-disappointed mongers arriving variously by car, taxi and on foot.
Luckily for me, about a handful of minutes later, J - one of my regulars who seemed to be unaware of what had transpired - arrived, so I did have pleasant company that night.
The following day, I was informed separately by two other lady friends that the pub would be closed for a week, and for a fortnight; while a security person stated that it might open on Monday (Sept 4). The worst-case scenario - as stated by a local buddy - would involve an indefinite closure. He said this had happened to another pub, which has a so-far-permanent "Closed" notice on its door.
More recent posts here may make this statement a prophetic one. Ummm ... hope this is not the case, as, in my limited experience, I haven't found another venue in this area as diversely- and as well-populated; as monger-friendly; and as affordable as LA.
Regarding alternatives, the aforementioned J suggested Amazonia as one. This pub is a short walk up from LA. Keep LA to your left and after a couple of minutes you should come to this pub on the opposite side of the road.
A few asides:
1) Stringfellows, the pub adjacent to LA, supposedly shares the same management as that of LA. My opinion (please note, it is only my opinion): The one time I visited it, found it relatively claustrophobic; the waitresses lacked the bonhomie and camaraderie of their LA sisters (whose effusive, solicitous, and – sadly – chaste, ministrations I now recall quite fondly); and the draught beer was less savoury than I have received elsewhere.
2) Amazonia had a comparatively pleasant ambiance, but the quality and quantity of ladies over the two nights I visited it earlier this month did not compare favourably with those at LA. However, as this was immediately in the LA aftermath, they may have decided to lay low till the fracas died down.
3) Some of the former LA habitués whom I met at these two pubs appeared quite jittery, having been forced out of their regular and comfortable habitat into a (relatively) alien environment. Some of these ladies, who had preferred formerly to bestow their attentions exclusively upon our deep-pocketed fellow-mongers from further east, sported broad, “come-hither” smiles upon espying us (maybe as those whom they could link to their erstwhile demesne) - something that would have happened in LA only after hell froze over. Some of us would surely have found happy pickings during that period. I did. :-D.
P.S. Work has brought me back to an LA-less Manila (at least as indicated by the most recent posts). I will call my few regulars later this evening to see if it is "business as usual" for them and will prepare an FR (less lengthy than this one though, :-0) of the situation as I perceive it. Will also find out if the members of the former LA sorority have an alternative congregation point.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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LA Cafe - reborn
Happy news for LA Cafe aficionados. No need for requiems. A few short hours after submitting my maiden post, I would like to add that LA Cafe is up and running again. Feel like such a twit, singing mournful dirges in my room to my favourite haunt in Manila, while, all the while, it may have already opened its doors for mongers. Was walking down this evening towards Amazonia, when I saw LA Cafe's name up in lights (:-). Sighs of relief all around! No death knells, just a temporary hiatus in operations for reasons best known to the powers that be and the management, though there are rumours - as there always are - about permits and renewals and. And so on and so forth, ad nauseam.
Further, the number of womenfolk still outnumbers the mongers (happy news), though the pickings are somewhat lean, given that most of the ladies should just be becoming aware that they can resume operations at their favourite hunting grounds. I have no worries. Have just returned from LA to my room with my regular who moved back to the Cafe from Amazonia post haste.
If mongers need some info on Amazonia, do ask. I will gladly oblige with what I have. Tomorrow; -0, I am sure you will understand why.
Cheers.
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Lovely LA Girls
My gf flew back to Davao last week for some rest. She texted me last night by mistake when news of LA opening started filtering the Philippine bush telegraph, "Bukas na pala ang la cs"
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LA Cafe re-opened
[QUOTE=Nathizen]Happy news for LA Cafe aficionados. No need for requiems. A few short hours after submitting my maiden post, I would like to add that LA Cafe is up and running again. [/QUOTE]
Wow, great, that's indeed good news! Thank God the officials had mercy upon us! Hope, they won't scare us again in a way like that! :)
Cheers - Hesekiels
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question about internet cafes
I'm looking for an internet cafe in or close to Pasay that has private booths. I know there's one in Makati on Burgos St. (88 Internet), but that's farther away than I want. I've done the search here and haven't found any mention of places like that. Anyone?
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LA Cafe SploogeCast
[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Thank God the officials had mercy on us! Hope, they won't scare us again in a way like that![/QUOTE]LA Cafe is indeed reopened... same meat market with pool tables as it ever was. Only visible change was a bit of remodeling - big screen TV built-in first floor, etc. Business was light last night, with mostly sharks swimming... I felt fortunate to find a freshie. Rumors, for what they are worth, is that owners are being shaken down for PHP3m for permits. Anyway, it's open and we can enjoy it while it lasts.
Am broadcasting live from the rear area of the first floor... convenient to do my e-mail in relative privacy from the free wireless internet. Gratuitous ISG promo pic from my phone cam attached! Enjoy Manila! AR+
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Taxi Fare
Hi All,
I will be landing in Manila on the 7th October. I have been to the Philippines many times but I usually am just changing planes or getting into a pre-organised car to go to Angeles City or Subic Bay etc. I have not actually stayed in Manila for over 20 years LOL.
Just want to know what the correct taxi fare from the airport to Ermitta should be at about 8pm on a Saturday night and if there are any other safe and easy modes of transport to my hotel?
Thanks.
Blastoff
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[QUOTE=Asian Rain]LA Cafe is indeed reopened... same meat market with pool tables as it ever was. Only visible change was a bit of remodeling - big screen TV built-in first floor, etc. Business was light last night, with mostly sharks swimming... I felt fortunate to find a freshie. Rumors, for what they are worth, is that owners are being shaken down for PHP3m for permits. Anyway, it's open and we can enjoy it while it lasts.
Am broadcasting live from the rear area of the first floor... convenient to do my e-mail in relative privacy from the free wireless internet. Gratuitous ISG promo pic from my phone cam attached! Enjoy Manila! AR+[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the Pic AR. Good to know that in the eyes of a regular, things are back to normal. I think I'll take a trip down there this afternoon to see how the early action is.
If the closure was due to a shakedown not being paid, I would expect it to be a lot more then 3M. Considering the scope of the raid, LA Cafe wouldn't let it happen over 3M (unless they were calling their bluff). I have some experiance with bribes in Passay, which I expect is similar to what is the norm in Malate. I paid a bribe of over 2M last year, and my issues were minor, with no raids or media attention, and I certainly do not have business interests on the scope of LA Cafe's owners. It was just a run of the mill bribe. Bribes out here are based on the maximum that a business can afford, and still be happy with the profits. Considering the revenue LA generates, management certainly made a big mistake if the closure was due to not paying a 3M peso bribe.
I've been trying to get the whole scoop from some from some well connected people, but everyone I know that should know the situation, either says they don't know, or are being tight lipped.
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Taxi Fare
[QUOTE=Blastoff]Hi All,
I will be landing in Manila on the 7th October. I have been to the Philippines many times but I usually am just changing planes or getting into a pre-organised car to go to Angeles City or Subic Bay etc. I have not actually stayed in Manila for over 20 years LOL.
Just want to know what the correct taxi fare from the airport to Ermitta should be at about 8pm on a Saturday night and if there are any other safe and easy modes of transport to my hotel?
Thanks.
Blastoff[/QUOTE]Normally by meter in the 120-150 peso range from NAIA to Ermita or 2-3$,Coupon Taxi about 300 pesos or 6$.If you want to play safe,use the coupon taxi.Cheers
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Higher
[quote=loveasian*****s]thanks for the pic ar. good to know that in the eyes of a regular, things are back to normal. i think i'll take a trip down there this afternoon to see how the early action is.
if the closure was due to a shakedown not being paid, i would expect it to be a lot more then 3m. considering the scope of the raid, la cafe wouldn't let it happen over 3m (unless they were calling their bluff). i have some experiance with bribes in passay, which i expect is similar to what is the norm in malate. i paid a bribe of over 2m last year, and my issues were minor, with no raids or media attention, and i certainly do not have business interests on the scope of la cafe's owners. it was just a run of the mill bribe. bribes out here are based on the maximum that a business can afford, and still be happy with the profits. considering the revenue la generates, management certainly made a big mistake if the closure was due to not paying a 3m peso bribe.
i've been trying to get the whole scoop from some from some well connected people, but everyone i know that should know the situation, either says they don't know, or are being tight lipped.[/quote]
my source confirms higher especially for the mayoral run of atienza s son.think down payment with the balance due early next year before campaign season.just had dinner with peewee trinidad s niece last week.a pity he is gone cheers
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Airport taxi-Pesos 530 to Roxas Blvd
[QUOTE=Blastoff]Hi All,
I will be landing in Manila on the 7th October. I have been to the Philippines many times but I usually am just changing planes or getting into a pre-organised car to go to Angeles City or Subic Bay etc. I have not actually stayed in Manila for over 20 years LOL.
Just want to know what the correct taxi fare from the airport to Ermitta should be at about 8pm on a Saturday night and if there are any other safe and easy modes of transport to my hotel?
Thanks.
Blastoff[/QUOTE]I usually take the airport taxi, as I have been told no regular taxis are allowed into the departure area of the airport. On occasion, I have seen jeepneys in the pick-up area, and raised a query as to their presence there. However, I was told that these were private vehicles that were there to pick up relatives, etc.
Re: the airport taxi. When you exit the NAIA airport (the international one) concourse and traverse a zebra crossing, you will see a taxi kiosk on your left. In the kiosk, you should see a pair of lady clerks behind whom is a list of destinations with prices specified for each destination.
I pay the official Pesos 530 (plus a little - say P20 - as a tip) for a trip to Roxas Blvd (Hyatt Casino & Hotel, Diamond Hotel, etc... all within walking distance of LA Cafe on one side and Robinsons on the other). Ask for an SUV - you pay the same whether you take a car or an SUV. The time of day does not affect these fares. If you are particular, make sure you have the exact change, as some drivers will be glad to walk away with P600 with the excuse that they have no change.
If you are travelling light, I suppose you could walk to the exit of the airport and take a regular taxi, though I have never tried that.
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Taxi Coupons
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Normally by meter in the 120-150 peso range from NAIA to Ermita or 2-3$,Coupon Taxi about 300 pesos or 6$.If you want to play safe,use the coupon taxi.Cheers[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the advice. My hotel emailed and said they would pick me up for 600 pesos which is double but $12 isn't a lot after a long flight for getting to your hotel trouble free but now you mentiond the coupons if they are hassle free, I will try tem. Where exactly inside the airport do I buy them? Is there an obvious Taxi coupon booth?
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Blastoff]Thanks for the advice. My hotel emailed and said they would pick me up for 600 pesos which is double but $12 isn't a lot after a long flight for getting to your hotel trouble free but now you mentiond the coupons if they are hassle free, I will try tem. Where exactly inside the airport do I buy them? Is there an obvious Taxi coupon booth?
Cheers[/QUOTE]You get out of the plane, you pass the immigration, you get your baggage. After the custom you get out of the airport. Don't totally across the street (otherwise you would arrive at visitors arrival area), and on the left you find a long line of cabs. near that long line, you'll find a small office. Just enter it, and get your coupon. Once you have it, give it to first taxi driver in line.
Enjoy!
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airport taxi
Now that's funny...I remember seeing the counters both inside and outside, but maybe I have my airports mixed up. Or maybe they changed. Or maybe I'm getting the old and new aiports mixed up. Damn, age and alcohol tend to kill a lot of brain cells.
Blastoff, it's not a hassle. Be wary of individuals who come up to you giving taxi advice -- although usually they're just trying to direct you to their particular counter. At the counter, FIRMLY say, "I'm going to xxx hotel". If they ask for more than 400 pesos, you're probably in the wrong place.
I'm probably giving far too much advice since the whole point of the "coupons" / taxi counters is to reduce scams. If I'm not mistaken, the airport staff write down the taxi # and give you a copy.
There will be noise, chaos and stifiling heat...but stay focused and you will find what you seek.
Using this method, you generally get good taxis with drivers who speak relatively good English. Be friendly and ask questions. They can be a gold mine of information. You might ask them how much they charge for a two hour drive out to Angeles city. They'll quote something exorbitant, but ask for a card. You never know....
X
[QUOTE=Blastoff]Thanks for the advice. My hotel emailed and said they would pick me up for 600 pesos which is double but $12 isn't a lot after a long flight for getting to your hotel trouble free but now you mentiond the coupons if they are hassle free, I will try tem. Where exactly inside the airport do I buy them? Is there an obvious Taxi coupon booth?
Cheers[/QUOTE]
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Airport Taxi
Yeah, $12, but will they show, LOL. Twice tried using this route, Asia Travel once and Hotel next year, both blew it. AT even kept my pre pay, but made up for it later. The stories I could tell....
Always been told to take "Nissan Taxi", but never did find them at NAIM.
Happy Trip.
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Nissan Taxi
At the old NAIM the Nissan Taxi is just across the street and to your left as you exit. If you want a taxi from there do not walk down to the arrivals hall. As you leave this area in your cab you will see the “arrivals hall” over your left shoulder and below. I used the Nissan Taxi about a month. It cost me 360p to the Oxford Suites. If you do not have a car waiting for you it is a lot better than trying to get a cab at the snake pit called the arrivals hall.
[QUOTE=Harvey WB]Yeah, $12, but will they show, LOL. Twice tried using this route, Asia Travel once and Hotel next year, both blew it. AT even kept my pre pay, but made up for it later. The stories I could tell....
Always been told to take "Nissan Taxi", but never did find them at NAIM.
Happy Trip.[/QUOTE]
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Taxi Adice
Hey Guys thanks for all your taxi advice. It was very helpful. I will post a report on my return.
By the way, any good or bad reports on City State Tower Hotel in Ermita?
Cheers.
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to avoid the taxi coupon
[QUOTE=Blastoff]Thanks for the advice. My hotel emailed and said they would pick me up for 600 pesos which is double but $12 isn't a lot after a long flight for getting to your hotel trouble free but now you mentiond the coupons if they are hassle free, I will try tem. Where exactly inside the airport do I buy them? Is there an obvious Taxi coupon booth?
Cheers[/QUOTE]
to blast off
You can go up to the arrival area and catch a non airport taxi but make sure you comfirm the price if no meter ,I paid 100 peso a few month ago to malate
meter come to 85 peso .
fast eddie 48
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Short Stop Late - Need advice
I am arriving in Manila on an 11:55PM flight. I am flying to Cebu on the 5 am flight. No jet lag for me as this "daytime" - eastern USA.
Do I have the time to hop in town for a several hour visit? I was at P. Burgeous 1 night in 2003. Had a great time. I might even just collect a few cell numbers for my return on Dec 4th. Then I have 4 days before returning home. Thanks for the help.
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Skin
Are most girls in the Phil darker complected and short? Thanks.
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taxi advise
Going upstairs, also avoid stoping taxi's with the police near by because they will tell you that you can't get into taxi on this level. So you may have to walk a way exiting the airport. Don't get in taxi untill you have a price, meter or no meter.
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Time management
I'm assuming you're willing to forego sleep, in which case you have time. The EDSA entertainment complex is quite close to the airport. You may need a place for your bags so get a room at the Copacabana and walk across the street and find some action.
Other people have suggested Air Force One Massage for some quick fun between flights. I'm not sure where you could leave your bags. I imagine you could make some arrangements at the airport.
[QUOTE=Towelboy2010]I am arriving in Manila on an 11:55PM flight. I am flying to Cebu on the 5 am flight. No jet lag for me as this "daytime" - eastern USA.
Do I have the time to hop in town for a several hour visit? .[/QUOTE]
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Skin
[QUOTE=Joking]darker than who , shorter than who ? which tribe are you trying to compare them with. main thing is they are smiley and they are sexy and there is an oversupply. all the rest is irrelevant , ha ha.[/QUOTE]
Sorry,I mean where are the taller lighter complected women?
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in town soon
CL,
Clear your inbox, I'll be in town in 2 weeks lets hook up in Makati.
IB
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Peak vs slow season
Is there a slow season in PI? I was in Bangkok in June 2005. I was surprised at how few men and how many women there were. I guess the heat keeps the tourists home. It was the proverbial "like shooting fish in a barrel" scene for me. I will be in Manila the 1st week of December. Good time / bad time? Like there is ever a bad time. LOL.
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Is there an enforced slow season due to the typhoon? Am going to be there in three days and wondering what the effect of the typhoon is on the 'market'?
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They exist!
Sweden?
I heard the Dutch are the tallest people in the world. I guess they must grow tall in order to look over all the big dikes. (no pun intended)
In the Philippines? If you like tall and light, I suggest you go somewhere else. Maybe China? Not so tall, but they have light complexions.
Or go to Japan. There's a lot of people there who don't like dark skin.
You'll feel right at home.
X
[QUOTE=I Jags]Sorry,I mean where are the taller lighter complected women?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mianbao]Is there an enforced slow season due to the typhoon? Am going to be there in three days and wondering what the effect of the typhoon is on the 'market'?[/QUOTE]
It is still the rainy season. What's more, a major typhoon just hit Manila on Thursday, the worst one in 11 years, causing major damage and knocking out power for all of Luzon. Also people were killed in landslides south of Manila. I understand that power is restored in some places, but not where my gf lives.
So you'll find a Manila that's climbing out from under the damage done. You might let us know how that's carrying on.
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[QUOTE=Finrod]It is still the rainy season. What's more, a major typhoon just hit Manila on Thursday, the worst one in 11 years, causing major damage and knocking out power for all of Luzon. Also people were killed in landslides south of Manila. I understand that power is restored in some places, but not where my gf lives.
So you'll find a Manila that's climbing out from under the damage done. You might let us know how that's carrying on.[/QUOTE]
The typhoon hit Thursday. My first typhoon, and hopefully my last. Something like a catagory 2 or 3 hurricaine on the west coast of the US. Most of the serious damage was caused by falling billboards. Manila is filled with these huge, poorly constructed bilboards. Obviously, considering their large surface area, many just blew down.
LA cafe was open Thursday night, although with sporadic power. A very slow night for them. I had to meet a friend there, but it was really dead. I'll be out again Saturday, and I assume everything will be back to normal in the bars. I'm hoping all the girls will be out in force to make up for their lost revenue due to the typhoon.
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Cheap flights from Manila to Bangkok?
Does anyone know any airline that have cheap flights from Manila to Bangkok? All the major airlines are very expensive. I am also going to post this on the Bangkok site. By the Way, I did a search and did not find any information on this.
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None
[QUOTE=Csun213]Does anyone know any airline that have cheap flights from Manila to Bangkok? All the major airlines are very expensive. I am also going to post this on the Bangkok site. By the Way, I did a search and did not find any information on this.[/QUOTE]There are no direct Flights by Budget Carriers TO BKK,though you can use Air Asia from Manila-Clark-KL-BKK or Tiger Manila(Clark) to Sing then to BKK.Cheers
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[QUOTE=Cebu Local]There are no direct Flights by Budget Carriers TO BKK,though you can use Air Asia from Manila-Clark-KL-BKK or Tiger Manila(Clark) to Sing then to BKK.Cheers[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your fast response and information.
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what is a budget flight?
I just flew manila/Bangkok/manila for $280. 00 round trip on PAL. I flew 1st week of August. I don't know what you guys consider budget, but that seemed pretty cheap to me. I purchased that ticket online at the PAL web-site.
One thing you all must remember or it can cost you money. If you are traveling usa/manila/usa and do your Bangkok trip within your longer trip, make sure you bring your "RETURN" ticket to the USA with you. I made the mistake of leaving my return ticket in a safe deposit box in my makati hotel and took a 4 day trip to Bangkok. Upon checkin at Bangkok Airport I was asked to show my outbound ticket from Philippines. As it was in my safe box I obviously could not show it. So PAL told me they would not issue me a borading pass. I was ready to explode. I told them that since they sold me my ticket, they can check their computer and print me up a duplicate. They refused. They told me to "buy" a ticket Manila/Hong Kong to show immigration and then get a refund later. In my 20 trips to the Philippines, no immigration officer ever asked me to see my outbound ticket but they insisted that it is the law. So I was forced to buy a useless ticket and then cashed it in with a $50. 00 penalty for cashing it in. Can you believe these motherfuckers? I can go on and on about this situation but it just seems to be part of the price I pay for mongering.
Boycott PAL as much as is possible as these people do not value your patronage and will gouge you any chance they get. Despite being a billion dollar, multi-national company, PAL is just a 3rd world, 3rd rate company wrapped up in shiny glitter.
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[QUOTE=Dr Slim]
One thing you all must remember or it can cost you money. If you are traveling usa/manila/usa and do your Bangkok trip within your longer trip, make sure you bring your "RETURN" ticket to the USA with you. I made the mistake of leaving my return ticket in a safe deposit box in my makati hotel and took a 4 day trip to Bangkok. Upon checkin at Bangkok Airport I was asked to show my outbound ticket from Philippines. As it was in my safe box I obviously could not show it. So PAL told me they would not issue me a borading pass. I was ready to explode. I told them that since they sold me my ticket, they can check their computer and print me up a duplicate. They refused. They told me to "buy" a ticket Manila/Hong Kong to show immigration and then get a refund later. In my 20 trips to the Philippines, no immigration officer ever asked me to see my outbound ticket but they insisted that it is the law. So I was forced to buy a useless ticket and then cashed it in with a $50. 00 penalty for cashing it in. Can you believe these motherfuckers? I can go on and on about this situation but it just seems to be part of the price I pay for mongering.
Boycott PAL as much as is possible as these people do not value your patronage and will gouge you any chance they get. Despite being a billion dollar, multi-national company, PAL is just a 3rd world, 3rd rate company wrapped up in shiny glitter.[/QUOTE]
Dr Slim,
This has always been the case for me when flying to the Philippines from either the USA, Hong Kong or Korea on as many as 6 different air lines. In the past you may have been purchasing a round trip ticket and therefore they did not ask you this question. Had you purchased a one way ticket to the PI before this situation? If so I would find that odd based on my experience.
FF
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No reason to boycott PAL. EVERY airline flying to the Phils will require you to show an onward ticket as a condition of getting the boarding pass. That is a hard and fast requirement by the Bureau of Immigration and the airlines can be fined and threatened with losing their landing rights for letting passengers through without it. Now it's possible that the immigration agent doesn't ask you to show your onward ticket, but the airlines don't know that so they're not going to go there. Period. For the airline, it's an easy choice between pissing you off and pissing off the BI.
The old hands know this. Newbies take note. Dr Slim, consider it a lesson learned.
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Finrod is correct.
same happened to my friend on thai whom i was travelling with. But he was able to contact his wife in Tarlac and the famiily was able to get his Manila-Auckland ticket to thai before we landed and thai officials were waiting with his namecard as we deplaned to give him his ticket. Funny thing phil customs never asked for his return ticket but intl carriers have to play by phil govt rules because they can be heavily fined.
And we all thought there were no rules in the phils.
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not a newbie
I'm not a newbie (I've been to the Phils more than 20x) and I am not concerned with what all the airlines do. I know the rules with Immigration and the $1000.00 fine. If you read my post carefully, you would have learned that PAL had evidence of my outbound ticket in their computer (why did they have the evidence, its only because they sold me that outbound ticket) but refused to PRINT ME A COPY which would have allowed me to get a boarding pass and go back to Phils. INSTEAD, they were happy to SELL me a new ticket which they knew was not 100% refundable. It seemed to me that they were happy with my misfortune and joyfull at the chance to make 50 free dollars rather than provide customer service to a passenger with over 100,000 miles flown with them. They knew I was not scamming them, they knew I had an outbound ticket bought and paid for. The girl at PAL Thailand went so far as to say that this situation happens all the time. So that means that they created a policy of refusing to print a copy so they can benifit by the problems of others. Fuck PAL. They are true examples of the 3rd world. They will cut off their nose to eat today despite their actions leading to eating less tomorow. If they rfuse to do business in a more customer oriented western style, then they will reap what they sow.
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This has always been the case for me when flying to the Philippines from either the USA, Hong Kong or Korea on as many as 6 different air lines. In the past you may have been purchasing a round trip ticket and therefore they did not ask you this question. Had you purchased a one way ticket to the PI before this situation? If so I would find that odd based on my experience.
In the "past" I purchased roundtrip, and on "THIS" trip I purchased roundtrip.
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I had an outbound ticket
[QUOTE=Finrod]No reason to boycott PAL. EVERY airline flying to the Phils will require you to show an onward ticket as a condition of getting the boarding pass. That is a hard and fast requirement by the Bureau of Immigration and the airlines can be fined and threatened with losing their landing rights for letting passengers through without it. Now it's possible that the immigration agent doesn't ask you to show your onward ticket, but the airlines don't know that so they're not going to go there. Period. For the airline, it's an easy choice between pissing you off and pissing off the BI.
The old hands know this. Newbies take note. Dr Slim, consider it a lesson learned.
The airline doesn't have to know what the Immigration officer will do. I owned a outbound ticket. PAL merely refused to acknowledge it.
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When it comes to doing business in the Phils, I have gotten that one generally shouldn't assume anything if one can help it. Do it by the book, have all your documents with you and things tend to go better. That was my experience.
Dr Slim, your point is well taken, only I have no reason to hate on PAL: I booked an RT ticket online with them and due to an emergency, I had to change the departure at the last minute. Called them by phone, they said you have to contact via email because the ticket was bought online. So I emailed, they replied the ticket was non-rebookable, etc. I said, WTF? The rules listed for that ticket on the web said it was rebookable. So I printed that page and went to the ticket office at Centennial. They said the same thing, but did redirect me to a manager in the Makati office who they said had the authority to make a change. The Makati office manager and her staff were quite non-plussed because the fare code to them signaled a non-rebookable ticket, yet I was showing them the fare rules that said it was. They even had me login to my account and show them that again. Something I see they would not do for you. Long story short, the whole thing took 3 hours, they ran me through a bunch of fees, etc., it cost about $78, but I was able to change the flight.
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Cebu Pacific Air
I just booked on Cebu Pacific - Hongkong Manila Hong Kong - on their internet site. Each leg was HK$400, plus HK$387.16 tax etc for total $1,187.16. At least HK$600 cheaper than what I could have gotten on PI. Also, each leg of the journey is booked sepaqrately with different prices posted for different time/date etc. ranging from this $400 to $1,000 per leg.
The booking has been OK - but the question is - what is the actual flight going to be??!! Anybody have any info/experience to pass along for this budget airline - i.e. can I expect not to be served anything, is it going to be chock-a-block with chattering Domestic helpers, are the seats going to be back breakers, is the airplane going to be held together with bailing wire....????
Also, have sent them an e-mail asking if they will allow me to bring my golf bag ON TOP OF the 20KG free baggage allowance - believe that this is the case for most other airlines? Of course have not yet received a reply!!
Any input would be much appreciated
SE Asia Joe
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[QUOTE=Dr Slim]This has always been the case for me when flying to the Philippines from either the USA, Hong Kong or Korea on as many as 6 different air lines. In the past you may have been purchasing a round trip ticket and therefore they did not ask you this question. Had you purchased a one way ticket to the PI before this situation? If so I would find that odd based on my experience.
In the "past" I purchased roundtrip, and on "THIS" trip I purchased roundtrip.[/QUOTE]
Yes Dr. Slim, I understood what you are saying...
You say that you purchased a round trip ticket from some destination to the PI. Then while in the PI you purchased a round trip ticket to another destination. Once there you then wanted to return to the PI on your round trip ticket, but they wanted to see your outbound ticket leaving the PI. You could not produce this and even though your outbound ticket leaving the PI was on PAL and you were flying on PAL to the PI you are upset that PAL would not even look it up and see that you had thiss outbound ticket.
It may be that PAL is way behind all other airlines when it comes to paperless travel or electronic travel. At least they were the last time I flew with them a few years ago. The last time I flew with PAL, and I guess it is still the same, they were the only airline that I knew that would take your reservation for a fight over the phone, but you could not purchase the ticket and there was no requirement to hold the reservation with a credit card. No confirmation number either. You could not purchase the ticket ahead of time. Only at the airport or at one of their offices could you purchase the ticket.
You show up and your reservation is there under your name. So I am guessing that their internal operations are not even capable of doing what you were asking for, but I am not sure of course.
FF
Also there is a "quote" function at the bottom of every post that allows you to more clearly show the persons post that you are responding to in a way that separates it from your response. If you use this it will make your post much easier to read and understand. Hope this helps as well.
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Newbee On Way to Manila & Boracay
Wading through 100's of messages to try to get a feeling for what's best options for my trip to Manila and then on to Boracay. Have been to Manila once before and had a great time in Makati. The plan this time is to spend 3 to 4 nights in Manila possibly to find a bed friend to take onto to Boracay. Suggestions on the top 10 places to go in Manila to find great talent would be appreciated.
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Cebu Pal
Cebu: Email or phone to see what is on their HK-Mla flight. They are ok on things like that.
PAL: is an arrogant airline run by a well connected Chinese guy. They do as they please, fly when they like and treat you like shit. Exercise care with them. Cebu cannot undercut htem on domestic flights or Pal's pals will zap them.
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One night in EDSA
Firstly, for airline reviews check out skytrax.com, but anyway back to what we are here for…
Spent one evening in EDSA recently. Very easy to find if you tell the taxi driver EDSA/Roxas (“ed-sah”/”roh-hass”) and look for the Heritage diagonally across the road.
Went into Bullets & Arrows first. Some real talent up on the stage as well as sitting down around tables on the right hand side of the bar. Tables were all free on the left side so sat at one. It was a Monday night so only a couple of customers, plus was still only four days after the recent typhoon.
After a few minutes the atmosphere, or lack of, started to get to me however. There was very little eye contact from the girls sitting around the tables, and none at all from the stage. They all looked thoroughly bored, as if they would rather be anywhere else. Could not blame them and started to feel the same myself so headed into Firehouse.
Firehouse was instantly better, with a large number of girls and a much better atmosphere. I made friends with one of the mamasans, who was happy to give me space and take my time to pick a ‘special friend’. I must say it was hard choosing, so in the end started chatting to one who had sat down in front of me and flashed a couple of smiles. She was quite petite and cute, however there were a large number of ‘types’ in this place, something to please everyone really.
A drink and P1,000 barfine later and we were in the taxi off to my hotel in Makati (1 hour there at 10pm, 20mins back after midnight). Despite the GFE appearance in the bar service was pretty disappointing, however. Functional, no passion and complaining of starting to hurt after not very long (yeah right). Don’t like to continue in case they really are suffering so stopped after that. If service had been better I had hoped she would stay into the next day, however she was keen to leave. Offered P1,000 tip considering we hadn’t really finished, however she was none to pleased with that so ended up giving another P500.
Not a great experience but I can say I’ve done EDSA. Stayed in Makati the next couple of nights, separate post in the relevant thread coming shortly…
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C P Airlines
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]The booking has been OK - but the question is - what is the actual flight going to be??!![/QUOTE]
Hello Joe,
As far as I know Cebu Pacific, my carrier of choice, is not a discount airline. That flight is not too bad considering they used older equipment. Last time I flew them, the plane was only half filled and since that flight is < 2 hours long, they will only serve juice and some munchies. To relieve the boredom, the flight attendants play games with the passengers and the winners take home prizes (ballcaps and t-shirts). In Manila, I was upgraded to first class just for being nice to the ticketing lady. I'm not sure about their excess baggage policy but it should not be too much of a problem. The real hassle is if your flying on to another destination in the P.I. because you must shuttle to the domestic terminal.
Happy Landings
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[QUOTE=Martians]Cebu: Email or phone to see what is on their HK-Mla flight. They are ok on things like that.
PAL: is an arrogant airline run by a well connected Chinese guy. They do as they please, fly when they like and treat you like shit. Exercise care with them. Cebu cannot undercut htem on domestic flights or Pal's pals will zap them.[/QUOTE]
When I was in Manila, I flew to Cebu for about $65 round trip on Cebu Pacific. The same flight on PAL was $79. It was a newer aircraft. These were the fares I found on their websites at that time.
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Dc
[QUOTE=DirtyCanuck]Wading through 100's of messages to try to get a feeling for what's best options for my trip to Manila and then on to Boracay. Have been to Manila once before and had a great time in Makati. The plan this time is to spend 3 to 4 nights in Manila possibly to find a bed friend to take onto to Boracay. Suggestions on the top 10 places to go in Manila to find great talent would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
I should just tell you to RTFF but I am in a jovial mood so I will give you the link
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2023[/url]
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Cebu Pacific
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]I just booked on Cebu Pacific - Hongkong Manila Hong Kong - on their internet site. Each leg was HK$400, plus HK$387.16 tax etc for total $1,187.16. At least HK$600 cheaper than what I could have gotten on PI. Also, each leg of the journey is booked sepaqrately with different prices posted for different time/date etc. ranging from this $400 to $1,000 per leg.
The booking has been OK - but the question is - what is the actual flight going to be??!! Anybody have any info/experience to pass along for this budget airline - i.e. can I expect not to be served anything, is it going to be chock-a-block with chattering Domestic helpers, are the seats going to be back breakers, is the airplane going to be held together with bailing wire?
Also, have sent them an e-mail asking if they will allow me to bring my golf bag ON TOP OF the 20KG free baggage allowance - believe that this is the case for most other airlines? Of course have not yet received a reply!
Any input would be much appreciated.
SE Asia Joe[/QUOTE]I've flown Cebu Pacific several times in the past year. From Manila to Cebu and from Manila to CDO. All of the flights I've taken have been on brand new planes (Airbus A319 or A320). Flight attendents are fun (and of course cute), they try to entertain with trivia games for Cebu Pacific themed prizes. Planes are reasonably comfortable for economy class, I try to get the exit row for some more leg room. HK to PI is less than 3 hours, so I'd only expect beverage and snacks.
I did have the same issue with response to email inquiry. They are not internet savvy.
CS
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[QUOTE=Frequent Flier]Dr Slim,
This has always been the case for me when flying to the Philippines from either the USA, Hong Kong or Korea on as many as 6 different air lines. In the past you may have been purchasing a round trip ticket and therefore they did not ask you this question. Had you purchased a one way ticket to the PI before this situation? If so I would find that odd based on my experience.
FF[/QUOTE]
This happend to me only once before I wised up (had to buy a ticket, and then go and get a refund. Pain in the fucking ass.) I Then Edited my Continetal domestic e-ticket and changed it into a Jetstar E-ticket for an outbound Philippines flight one year in advance. I keep it permanently with my passport, and changed the date one year ahead when the flight had come up, and just printed out a new one. So, it's 30 minutes for the first year, 5 minutes for each subsequent year. For frequent Philippines travelers, it is time well spent.
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Dentist
Hello,
I'm thinking about getting a tooth capped on my trip in December. Can anyone recommend a good dentist in the Manila area? Prices?
X
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You need a bigger box
CL,
Your PM box is full again.
I'll be in MNL for 3 night (12-14th) then heading south.
FD
Anyone is welcome for a beer
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Heritage Hotel, Pasig
Have RTFF and searched for the low down on above hotel - which I'm already booked into 18-23 October. - but have only gotten minimal info. Know that its next to the EDSA complex but not much more.
Would appreciate any advise/info you could provide in regards to our hobby.
Also, am good for a few beers after dinner if anybody....
SE Asia Joe
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Manila - April '07
Anyone plan of being there in April?
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Heritage Hotel..
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Have RTFF and searched for the low down on above hotel - which I'm already booked into 18-23 October. - but have only gotten minimal info. Know that its next to the EDSA complex but not much more.
Would appreciate any advise/info you could provide in regards to our hobby.
Also, am good for a few beers after dinner if anybody....
SE Asia Joe
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It's not that great a place. It's an easy walk diagonally across the street to EDSA, which is the best thing about it, but the service isn't very good and the rooms are run down. On the other hand, it's not a dive and it's a good location, with lots of taxis out front on EDSA all the time.
:D
GE
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Heritage Hotel
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]It's not that great a place. It's an easy walk diagonally across the street to EDSA, which is the best thing about it, but the service isn't very good and the rooms are run down. On the other hand, it's not a dive and it's a good location, with lots of taxis out front on EDSA all the time.
:D
GE[/QUOTE]I know the hotel quite well,Since Eddie Yeo the GM is a friend.It is a Singaporean run hotel part of the Singaporean Copthorne group.It has a Casino on premises and being geared towards the China,Taiwan,HK market It has a good Chinese restaurant.There are working girls in the lobby and the hotel is dominated by Gamblers and Chinese guests,It is a 4 star ranked Hotel.Hope this helps
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Heritage Hotel
[QUOTE=Cebu Local]I know the hotel quite well,Since Eddie Yeo the GM is a friend.It is a Singaporean run hotel part of the Singaporean Copthorne group.It has a Casino on premises and being geared towards the China,Taiwan,HK market It has a good Chinese restaurant.There are working girls in the lobby and the hotel is dominated by Gamblers and Chinese guests,It is a 4 star ranked Hotel.Hope this helps[/QUOTE]
Never been there so no personal experience. However have stayed at one of the Copthorne in Singapore multiple times- which is at best a 4 star hotel. Service is good, rooms vary, renovated ones good. See their webpage below - they rate themselves as 5 star....[url]www.heritagehotelmanila.com/[/url]
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I have done a search on Cherry Blossoms hotel. It received mostly good reviews from people that have stayed there. Since they have no website and you have to call to make a reservation for a room, I just would like to asked for more feedback from people that have stayed there recently. First, are there any problem with the hotel as far as being clean, also how far would I need to make the phone reservation? Thanks
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Cherry Blossom
[color=purple]I've stayed at the Cherry Blossoms more than 15 times in the past 5 years, and will stay there again in my future visits. It's gone through a lot of growth over that time. They have added two more floors, remodeled the others. I've had my ups and downs with them, but they are a fine hotel that only gotten better and better over the years. I would recommend the place to anyone. It's within a 1 minute walk to Robinson's Mall and less than a 5 minute walk to all the clubs and bars of interest in Ermita. Make your reservation through email at [email]blossoms@i-manila.com.ph[/email] and ask for the special, it was Php1250 then went to Php1375, I'm not so sure what it is today, but it's always been a great value in Ermita for the location. By the way, the place has always been clean when I stayed there, very courtesy staff no matter how many different ladies you bring in, security always call if the lady leaves alone and breakfast for 2 free. Stay there you won't regret it.
RaZZoR[/color]
[QUOTE=Csun213]I have done a search on Cherry Blossoms hotel. It received mostly good reviews from people that have stayed there. Since they have no website and you have to call to make a reservation for a room, I just would like to asked for more feedback from people that have stayed there recently. First, are there any problem with the hotel as far as being clean, also how far would I need to make the phone reservation? Thanks[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Razzor][color=purple]I've stayed at the Cherry Blossoms more than 15 times in the past 5 years, and will stay there again in my future visits. It's gone through a lot of growth over that time. They have added two more floors, remodeled the others. I've had my ups and downs with them, but they are a fine hotel that only gotten better and better over the years. I would recommend the place to anyone. It's within a 1 minute walk to Robinson's Mall and less than a 5 minute walk to all the clubs and bars of interest in Ermita. Make your reservation through email at [email]blossoms@i-manila.com.ph[/email] and ask for the special, it was Php1250 then went to Php1375, I'm not so sure what it is today, but it's always been a great value in Ermita for the location. By the way, the place has always been clean when I stayed there, very courtesy staff no matter how many different ladies you bring in, security always call if the lady leaves alone and breakfast for 2 free. Stay there you won't regret it.
RaZZoR[/color][/QUOTE]
You might add this to the Manila Hotels thread so everyone can look this up more quickly. But I do have one question: do they have broadband Internet access there? In the rooms? Or business center only? Thanks very much.
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Thanks for all the feedback on Cherry Blossoms Hotel. I think I will try and book there since so many people recommend it. Last question is should I book a single or a double? Just wondering if they will charge a fee if I book a single and then bring a girl back to my room. Thanks
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Cherry Blossom
[color=purple]They told me they would be getting broadband soon last time I was there. What i've done in the past is use a dial up card from 7-11, cost-php100. Each call from the hotel for internet is Php10, no matter how long you are online. I've use this many times.
RaZZoR[/color]
[QUOTE=Finrod]You might add this to the Manila Hotels thread so everyone can look this up more quickly. But I do have one question: do they have broadband Internet access there? In the rooms? Or business center only? Thanks very much.[/QUOTE]
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Cherry Blossom
[color=purple]Just book the room it's understood you will have someone with you weather you bring them or not. That's why they have 2 breakfast with every room. Just book the room don't even mention single or double. All the room have big beds.
RaZZoR[/color]
[QUOTE=Csun213]Thanks for all the feedback on Cherry Blossoms Hotel. I think I will try and book there since so many people recommend it. Last question is should I book a single or a double? Just wondering if they will charge a fee if I book a single and then bring a girl back to my room. Thanks[/QUOTE]
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Cherry Blossom
I am at the Cherry Blossom now. Booked two rooms the day before arrival and had my choice of a few rooms upon arrival.
First stay. I find it clean and quite acceptable.
FD
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Cebu Pacific
Yes, Cebu Pacific Airlines does have a web site, actually very good:
[url]http://www.cebupacificair.com[/url]
The problems are you won't get 20kg as with most international airlines.
Also if there is a delay at the airport your plane will wait.
Reason as they are a budget airline the majors get first preference on takeoff.
Hope this helps
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[QUOTE=Firedick]I am at the Cherry Blossom now. Booked two rooms the day before arrival and had my choice of a few rooms upon arrival.
First stay. I find it clean and quite acceptable.
FD[/QUOTE]
Any photos of your room, always thought about staying there asa budget option.
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[QUOTE=Razzor][color=purple]Just book the room it's understood you will have someone with you weather you bring them or not. That's why they have 2 breakfast with every room. Just book the room don't even mention single or double. All the room have big beds.
RaZZoR[/color][/QUOTE]
Just to make sure that I understand it. I can just book room for a single and I will be able to bring a girl back to my room without having to pay a joiner fee?
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Cherry Blossom
[color=purple]Doesn't matter if there is one or two in the room, they won't bill a "joiner Fee". I never had it happen in the many times I've stayed there. You'll get two breakfast with the room too.
RaZZoR[/color]
[QUOTE=Csun213]Just to make sure that I understand it. I can just book room for a single and I will be able to bring a girl back to my room without having to pay a joiner fee?[/QUOTE]
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I quite like Heritage (though rooms could use modernization as it is showing some age). VERY quiet (which I like), and great location IMHO. For guys who like staying in ermita, Cherryblossoms is a better location (adjacent to Robinsons) than the Executive Plaza, but Executive Plaza is definitely newer and cleaner.
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[QUOTE=Razzor][color=purple]Doesn't matter if there is one or two in the room, they won't bill a "joiner Fee". I never had it happen in the many times I've stayed there. You'll get two breakfast with the room too.
RaZZoR[/color][/QUOTE]
Thanks for the information. I feel better about booking a single now.
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Don't like the place..
[QUOTE=Surfer]I quite like Heritage (though rooms could use modernization as it is showing some age). VERY quiet (which I like), and great location IMHO. For guys who like staying in ermita, Cherryblossoms is a better location (adjacent to Robinsons) than the Executive Plaza, but Executive Plaza is definitely newer and cleaner.[/QUOTE]
I agree that the location is terrific, but I dislike the hotel. I always review my bills fairly carefully, and once when checking out of there, I noticed that the hotel was charging me for movies, mini bar consumption and I think a couple of meals, none of which actually happened. I went crazy. They said they would bill my company directly. I called my company and instructed the accountant not to pay the bill, walked out and have never stayed there again.
I would suggest to those to those who stay there to review your bills carefully as the same thing could happen to you. I doubt that mine was an isolated case.
:D
GE
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I booked it through a travel agency to get a much better rate and paid the travel agency (they came to collect at noon on the day I checked out). I did leave a card imprint for incidentals but had no problem at all. My friend stays there one week each month (on business) and never mentioned that problem which could happen at any hotel. Copacabana next door has the same great location but is a step down in quality but still fine for me. Around the corner from Heritage is Kenny Rogers Roasters which has some of the best roasted chicken I've ever had (Nothing like KFC!).
One thing I did not find was an internet cafe nearby (business center in hotel is surely a ripoff, don't even need to ask). Mall of Asia is the place to hang in the daytime anyway.
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I just booked Oriental Mandarin for 3 nights in January thru [url]www.accomline.com[/url], Took over ten days to comfirm the booking but its comfirmed and paid now.
I booked the Mandarin originally thru [url]www.lakbay.com[/url] but they couldnt guarantee a double bed though im sure it wouldnt of been a problem in january. Lakbay had very good rates but couldnt take the risk with being throw in a room with my girlfriend after 3 months away and two twin beds for three nights.
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joiner fee
[QUOTE=Csun213]Just to make sure that I understand it. I can just book room for a single and I will be able to bring a girl back to my room without having to pay a joiner fee?[/QUOTE]
to csun
I never have any problem bring girl back to my hotel ,Even the 4 star pan Pacific in Malate the bell boy just smile at you, Never need to pay a joiner fee like Thailand .
fast eddie 48
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Manila Mongering
Just got back from diving in Phillipine so had a 1 night wait until my flight. I stayed at the famous Peninsula Hotel in their newly renovated Makati tower. The room was pretty nice, not as large as I would have thought(35 sq meters). It did come with a nice large Plasma tv and free Internet and 2 breakfast. I had a local friend booked it for me and it worked out great. Booking through Expedia (more expensive at $200 USD)will get you the not yet renovated Ayala tower and no Internet or breakfast. For those who like to check out the famous and infamous peronage, Imelda Marcos and the mayor of Makati was at the lobby on Saturday night.
Of course I had to sample the equally famous/infamous Airforce one. The whole complex is basically structured like a Thai soapy. Which means it houses the girls and rooms where you get the "massage". Checked out both the Economy Lineup(2nd floor) and the Business/First Class Lineup(1st floor) of girls behinds a curtain. I thought the Economy looked about the same as the Business/1st fishbowl, however went with the Business class package since I am used to the 1.5 hour format. It's funny in that I requested to check out the rooms for the Business and 1st class rooms. However, after I paid for my package of 5,0000 peso(2,500 room, 2,500 girl) they switched room on me. I was ushered into a tiny room about half the size of the Business class room I was showned. I had to asked them twice (since they showed another identical room) before getting the original room I was showned.
The service of the girl (named Ezra) was ok. She was nice(she said she is 18), with a slim build, no tits at all. She started with a simple massage of my shoulders and ribcage then stopped! I turned over and she gave me a perfunctory back massage. She then turned and asked me "what's next?" Not being an idiot. I said "SEX". I kissed her tits and was attempting DATY when I noticed a strong odor so I asked her to wash. Forget about the DATY! After she washed she put on the condom then went directly to do a cowgirl. No BJ, no warm up just went straight to the sex. I been diving for a week with no female companion so I was ready for the action. Switched over to a doggy so I could ram it into her real good. After I came she took the condom off and went for a wash. I went for a steam in the portable steam unit and a shower. After about 5 minutes she asked what time it is and is it time up already...etc. I think we were only 1 hour into the session. I never liked to force them to stay so I said let's go. I gave her a small tip of 500 peso since she was nice, not the usually apathetic service.
I thought the experience at Airforce one was ok. It was certainly not anywhere as nice as the best soapy in Bangkok. Manila also must have the most obnoxious and corrupt taxi drivers in the world. EVERY one of the jerks wanted to show me a girl and EVERY one of them ripped me off. They think it is their God given right to rip you off. In IMHO Manila reminds me of one big favela(slum), even in Makati everything just seems to have a gleam of dirt surrounding it. Really sad, since I really think alot of the Filippinas are really hot.
Anyway in summary:
Airforce one: 6.5, (not busy, and not really great talent and the rooms are so so) watch out for the room switcheroo.
Peninsula Hotel: 7, (Due to the renovation you do not know what kind of room you will get. The staff are friendly except for the reception staff who are idiots)
Mongering in Manila: 6, based only on 1 night experience of p4p. However, I think if you put some time into it you should get some really nice freebies. If I was living there I would tried to get the hell out so I think the girls would be more amenable to your advances.
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Robinsons Apartelle, EDSA/Pioneer, Mandaluyong
JUst got back from Manila and as promised am now giving you my report. Instead of the Heritage, I got booked into the Robinsons Apartelle - and Jeez - its pretty bad! The price was OK I guess - PP2,300/day and the room WAS huge with a fully equiped kitchenette - but it was really old and run down! It's right next to the Robinson Mall - so it was conveneint for meals etc - but besides that - ZIP!
Besides being all tied up in work, staying at this place really was NOT conducive to my enjoying the hobby. There was even a long list of HOUSE RULES that they give you when you check in - including a charge of PP250 for guests staying after midnight, PLUS a Daily "Good Morning, Room check" loud knock on the door at 8:30 am! NUTSO! I've never stayed anywhere in Asia where this happens - totally crazy.
OK, in the evening there is usually 3 or 4 girls sitting around the tiny lobby - just waiting - and the security guy were there practically to market these gals. OK, I did 'partake' once while there - but the whole process was just so clinical and sterile that I really never got in the mood at all. None of the partying, going round drinking and chatting and getting oneself into the mood - just order the gals, make your choice and away we go! Actually a pretty good looking girl with a really good body - plus a real spinner in bed. But I just could not get into the mood and it was a true "pure biological" experience. Yowitxch!! PP3,000 and had to pay the Mommy prior to the action - a pure waste of money.
SE Asia Joe
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Does anybody remember a big-breasted girl who used to dance at the now defunct "Visions"? She used the name "Grace" or "Donna" and also danced at the "Space Girl" at EDSA. She hasn't been at either place for over a year now, just wondering if anybody barfined/remembers her. Kind of tall, but enormous rack!
Thanks
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First Time After Many Years.
I just returned from two and a half weeks in the Philippines. The Philippines had been my old stopping grounds starting 20 years ago but I hadn’t mongered in Manila for 15 years and I had never been to Samar ( the source of most of the girls in Angeles City) and Leyte only once so this is breaking somewhat new ground for me, which I enjoyed immensely. I will report on each area separately.
Manila
Airport Arrival and Transfers.
The international airport in Manila is surprisingly run well. Where one is obliged to spend too much in my opinion is in your transfer from the airport to your hotel. If you buy a taxi coupon as you exit the airport on your left, since November 2005 the price has been raised from 350 pesos to 530 pesos to Ermita the home of the infamous LA Café. Even though in foreigner money this is not much, I find it offensive because if I catch a metered taxi from Ermita to the airport it will only cost me around 130 pesos plus a tax of 30 pesos for the taxi exiting the airport.
The alternatives when arriving are either in the 530 or 600 peso range which is a coupon taxi or a pre-organised hotel vehicle transfer or taking a risk with your luggage and walking out onto the public road and flagging down a metered cab. I opted for the coupon method on the way to my hotel and the metered taxi from my hotel back to the airport. It seemed to be the smarted way to go.
I had not mongered in Manila since the Marcos and Aquino regimes so it was a re-discovery for me and man what a blast it turned out to be!
Hotels
There is a countless amount of options in the area of Ermita for accommodation from 500 pesos to 4000 pesos per night and more. 1 star to 5 stars are available within a few blocks of LA Café. Take a walk around in the morning in Mabini Street and Del Pilar Street and pop into any hotel that tickles your fancy and ask.
I stubbled by chance before arriving to Manila on an arrangement the Gpoint bar has with several hotels in the area. If you contact Myles from Gpoint via email, she will reserve a room for you in one of the hotels on her list and you will save 25% and more on the standard room rates. I opted to stay at the City State Tower Hotel in Mabini Street, which in my opinion is a 4 star hotel for the Philippines and a superior double room including 2 breakfasts went from 1,950 pesos per night down to 1,500 per night through Gpoint bar. Gpoints email address and phone number can be easily found on the internet.
Low price Mongering areas of Manila
Divisoria Mall, Baclaran Markets and Smoky Mountain Slums.
The locals get pussy for as low as 50 to 200 pesos a pop in the area around Divisoria Mall, Baclaran Markets and if you like to live life on the edge, Smoky Mountain Slum areas but I don’t suggest you go walking around that area alone LOL. If you are interested in taking a look as I was, hire a taxi per hour. This will cost you around 200 pesos per hour and lock your doors and have the driver take you around to these areas which have a lot of cheap street walkers at night. Most of these girls don’t speak much English and have never been with a foreigner. Still it can be fun for something different.
Cheap KTV’s
On the way to the domestic airport not far from Roxas Boulevard is a street with about 40 lower class KTV bars. They call it the “Air force 1” area. Be VERY careful of your belongings there and don’t go down any back streets to which there are many unless you are going in a group of Filipino friends. Stick to the main street and you can have some fun. None of the many girls sitting outside and inside will openly admit to having sex with you as this is not a take out situation with the girls here. You need to book a VIP room on the premises and the girls will then put out in the room. BJ’s and sex is normal. The prices range from 500 per hour to 1,200 pesos for 1.5 hours including drinks and girls. This area has the cheapest beer I have seen in Manila at 26 pesos a San Mig light bottle. I am more of a take out kind of guy so even though I had a bisexual female guide on this night and we did get into some fun with the girls in the VIP room, I would have preferred to have taken them to my hotel. The girls will openly give you their cell phone numbers and meet you after work so that is an option.
Medium Price Mongering in Manila
The Asia Entertainment Complex.
I was very pleasantly surprised at the positive reactions I got from the girls at the Asia Entertainment Complex. I had heard that these girls were very expensive but once you know the game, this is not the case.
The bar fine is only 1,000 pesos per girl, very reasonable and the tip which is paid directly to the girl, is negotiated in advance but not paid till the end. This is where the game is played. The standard asking for a short time is from 1 to 3 hours is 2,500 pesos and a over night tip asking is 4,000 pesos but this is what we in my country call a “Mugs price.” If you are to rich, or dumb or in a hurry, this is the price you will pay, for the rest of us, things are different. As always, having some game and making the girls laugh has a great reducing effect on the tip price which is fully negotiable (surprise, surprise LOL). I chatted to my girl for a while having fun and she told me she had not had a bar fine in over one week and she really needed money and she liked me (WOW I never heard that one before LOL). We chatted and joked and I bought her one ladies drink for 190 pesos. We finally agreed to 2,000 pesos tip for all night, not bad I though for a very classy place like this. She ended up staying half the next day at no extra charge and I ended up having to ask her to leave or she would have stayed all day because it was her day off. The girls here are generally very attractive and clean so you can expect to pay a bit more than say LA Café where they are all freelance.
Ermita Area
Well here is where things get interesting for me. It was my old stopping grounds almost 20 years ago and I had not been back since. Walking down Del Pilar Street, brought memories back and tears to my eyes. It used to be like Fields Avenue in Angeles City back then. Now it has about only about 10 bars total and only 4 or 5 reasonable ones. I understand Mayor Lim closed the bars down in the 1990’s for some strange reason. All those years ago I stayed at the Corona Hotel when it was just opened 2 weeks. It used to have a huge round marble Jacuzzi in your room and a round bed. Those were the days lol. The bar fine back then was 500 pesos. I guess it has not gone up that much in 20 years as it is now 1,000 pesos.
Well I have to confirm those reports that have come before mine on this forum that LA Café is Ermita and without it there may be no mongering in Ermita, well at least not at the current level.
A little bird told me that LA Café was recently closed for one month while they negotiated a bribe with the Mayors office. They finally settled on 4.5 million pesos my sources tell me.
As you enter LA, in the smaller room to your right, there are 3 Mamma sans working. They generally negotiate for some of the younger girls and get a commission from the girls. These Mamma sans are not on LA’s pay roll. This room on the right seems to be where the much sort after Japanese customers hang out in the afternoons and early evenings. There is a group of around 20 young and pretty girls that specialise in Japanese customers only! The Japanese pay a flat fee of 2,500 pesos short time, other foreigners are asked only 1,500 short time and 2,000 all night, now you can see why the Japanese are sort after by the girls, that and the fact that the girls tell me that Japs have small dicks and cum quickly which makes the girls job easy and fast.
I put the theory that these girls will only go with Japs to the test on several occasions and was surprised by the result. I approached some VERY hot teenagers who specialise in Japanese customers and offered them the same rate as the Japanese pay 2,500 short time. I was shocked when I was refused by every single on of these girls! They wouldn’t even make eye contact with me or talk to me because I was not Japanese. This was a challenge to me and I love challenges. It took me several days to break into this clicky group. I found that there is a Filipina food shop across the street where chicken and rice cost only 45 pesos and the girls seem to love it. I formulated a plan and picked 2 of the young girls that seem to wield some power and respect over the other girls. I asked them each night if they were hungry or thirsty. After the third night they caved in and accepted a drink and then we went over the road to eat the 45-peso meal lol. Well let me tell you, once this happened ALL of the 20 Japanese specialist girls were suddenly my best friends lol. Even the Mamma sans and the waitresses told me they had never seen these girls friendly and flirting with a non-Japanese man and we were all surprised. Suddenly the floodgates opened and I was the flavour of the month with these very hot young girls sitting all over me every night and groping me and allowing me to grope them and it became a competition for them who was going to sleep with me first. I must admit their pussies were particularly tight compared to some other girls I had in LA as they had not had much experience with non-Japanese men before. It was also notably painful sex for these girls with me even if I was gentle. By the way, I also negotiated the prices down to the usual 1,500 with them as they were now my friends and my money didn’t seem to matter too much at this stage to these girls. Every night when I arrived in LA I was hugged, kissed and greeted by this big group of hot girls. A few times people made jokes and said I must be their new Pappasan lol.
I found the secret to LA is patience. Sit in a position where you can see all the girls as they move around. I sat away from the main bar but close to the girls bathroom so that I got a look at every girl at some point as she went to freshen up. If you wait long enough you will have a choice of around 5 to 10 stunners that in my opinion are between an 8 and 10. Be patient and wait till the right one comes in then strike fast. I had a girl I was interested in come and flirt with me and cuddles etc and she was a 9.5 for sure and I hesitated and lost her to an other guy that night in about 5 minutes. In LA more than anywhere, the saying “He who hesitates is lost” is sooooo true.
Regular girls in LA.
As LA is 24/7 and never closes, I found that girls were cheapest in the early mornings between 6am and say 10am. At this time, the girls remaining had not had a bar fine and were getting desperate. Some are very attractive at this time of the day but most are not. I was offered 500 to 1,000 pesos short time regularly during these hours and the girls stayed as long as I wanted at no extra charge.
In the mid afternoon and through the night the prices seem be 1,500 short time and 2,000 all night but I found that not too many girls are willing to go all night early in the evening. Again, I got to know the girls as I do on all my mongering trips and then the price was really “up to me” lol. I found once I had bought them a 45 pesos chicken and rice meal, they would go with me almost out of obligation and money was not the deciding factor at that time.
I befriended as many of the “Queen bees” as I call the girls who wield power in a place as I could and I got looked after more than I could imagine. In fact one girl I bar find txt me the next day and asked if she and her bisexual friend could come over for an afternoon session and a meal and taxi money was all they wanted. Of corse I said yes and it was a real blast. They were right into it and each other with anal as well which surprised me!
Other bars in Ermita
There are several other bars in Del Pilar Street such as Amazonia’s which I didn’t like much as it charges more than LA’s for everything. It does have a small hotel upstairs if you wish to stay there. By chance, I stumbled on where the Amazonia girls live. I went around the corner in the side street to get a haircut and while I was the several of the girls from Amazonia came in and out and went upstairs. I asked the gay hairdresser what the story was and he said he had 10 room above his shop that he rented to the girls for 100 pesos per day. He also told me the names of the girls who were behind on the rent and indicated that if I agreed to pay their short fall, (only a few hundred pesos) he would convince them to sleep with me for free as they all owed him favours lol. I took him up on that offer on 2 occasions and he was true to his word.
Well I am sure I could write many more pages but most other info has already been written on this subject by those great mongers who have walked this path before me.
More about Samar and Leyte and Angeles City to come.
Enjoy.
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Great report. Thanks for the update
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Originally Posted by Frequent Flier
Dr Slim,
This has always been the case for me when flying to the Philippines from either the USA, Hong Kong or Korea on as many as 6 different air lines. In the past you may have been purchasing a round trip ticket and therefore they did not ask you this question. Had you purchased a one way ticket to the PI before this situation? If so I would find that odd based on my experience.
FF
[QUOTE=LoveAsian*****s]This happend to me only once before I wised up (had to buy a ticket, and then go and get a refund. Pain in the fucking ass.) I Then Edited my Continetal domestic e-ticket and changed it into a Jetstar E-ticket for an outbound Philippines flight one year in advance. I keep it permanently with my passport, and changed the date one year ahead when the flight had come up, and just printed out a new one. So, it's 30 minutes for the first year, 5 minutes for each subsequent year. For frequent Philippines travelers, it is time well spent.[/QUOTE]I flew Tiger Airways last year on a one way from Singapore to Clark and they made me sign a waiver saying that they were not responsible and that I had to acknowledge that Philippines Immigrations may not let me into the country. Of course, immigrations didn't check for an outbound ticket.
I am going to the Phils from the US in a couple of day on a one way ticket, but I bought a Tiger Airways out bound E-ticket to Singapore online. I fly back to the US from Singapore.
Dr. Slim, did you have a printed itinerary on you that showed your return ticket to the US? Maybe that would have been enough for them to give you a boarding pass. I seems that many people in Asia work exactly to the rules and have little to no capacity to bend them. Adhering to the rules is much more important than pleasing the customer. Before the flames arrive, this is of course a generalization. Comments/experiences pro and con would be welcome.
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Leyte and Samar
As many members have contacted me regarding your interest in Leyte and Samar, I am advising that I have posted my report on Leyte in the "Other Areas" Forum of the Philippines.
Enjoy.
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Air travel options from Manila to Saigon
Can anyone share some information on air travel options between Manila and Saigon? Any discount carriers (besides Cebu or Tiger indirect flights) or promotions?
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Air options
[QUOTE=Alleno151]Can anyone share some information on air travel options between Manila and Saigon? Any discount carriers (besides Cebu or Tiger indirect flights) or promotions?[/QUOTE]
The only Airline flying between Saigon or Ho Chi Minh City and Manila are Vietnam Airlines and PAL.
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PAL & VN are way overpriced fro that short flight MNl-SGN. One of the budget carriers is serving Hanoi, but Haoi to SGN is 2 hours flying time and almost $200RT so not a viable option. VN is becoming a partner with American so you may be able to use Advantage miles. PAL is the worst piece of shit in the air in every respect.