Dr. Glen Naval in Mall of Asia. I will PM you the address and phone. With the price I pay for an American dentist, I can fly to Manila so I just get all of my dental work done there.
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Dr. Glen Naval in Mall of Asia. I will PM you the address and phone. With the price I pay for an American dentist, I can fly to Manila so I just get all of my dental work done there.
[QUOTE=Guiltyfeet]I have broken a crown, but i'm scheduled to fly to manila on April 6. I'm thinking that i can partially fund my trip with the money i save by using a Manila dentist.[/quote]to Gulity feet,
I have dental work done in China ,Manila and Bangkok ,I think Bangkok dentist service is much better ,I have a crown done in Shenzhen china 2 yr ago for 240 usd but I have it redone in BBK last yr because is not fit correctly .
I have cleaning and exam done in Manila before about 20 usd they do a ok job not as good as in the US and Bangkok .
Fast eddie 48
one of my latest giks is a 20 year old, 4th year high school student, who i met in a freelance p4p situation at the santo nino festival some weeks ago. such encounters are usually a one-off for me, but she was such a sweet, bright and compliant girl that i took her cp no and we have met several times since. she has a fun, bubbly personality if a little rep001ty, and is good to hang out with. although she has a slim and girlish body, facially she looks her age and when she has her slap on, looks older than her years.
i have since found out some of her tough life story. she was born in an atypically large and impoverished family in a province, not too far from manila. her farmer father died 5 years ago when she was a third year student at a public high school. up to that point she was the family’s big hope for the future as she was an exceptionally bright student with every chance of obtaining a scholarship to a good manila college. but the death of her father scuppered these plans and she was forced to leave school and move to manila where she found work in a soap making factory. here she worked for 4 years, sending most of her wages back home to support her mother and remaining family. she lost her virginity at age 17 to a 30 year old married filipino who promised to leave his wife and live with her but, of course, never did. she had a couple of pregnancy scares but luckily nothing came of them. the guy eventually went back to his wife, leaving her distraught and bitter. at this time an older, more experienced friend persuaded her to visit la café where she lost her p4p cherry to a japanese punter. the experience was scary for her (the guy was rough with her) so she didn’t return for some months but shortage of cash eventually told and she returned. she tells me she visited la café on average once or twice a month and was on her way there when i met her (:)). last year she met a nice elderly japanese guy who is now sending her a small monthly allowance so that she was able to resume her interrupted education and pay her way through high school. there is also a german guy somewhere in the background who also sends her money on a less regular basis.
such is her potted life history for those who, like me, try to look a little beyond the lbfm stereotype. but this is isg and i am a player so i guess i better cut to the chase.
r is a can-do, experimental sort of girl. on our last meeting she asked me what anal sex was like and whether it was painful. i told her that since i had never had a dick up my arse, i wouldn’t know:). we had a good laugh about that. but 5 minutes earlier i had had a finger or two embedded deep up her chocolate chute as we screwed, which she had appeared to have thoroughly enjoyed. so i guess that her ass cherry is there for the taking if i want it. anal sex is no big deal for me, so maybe i will and maybe i won’t. but i guess that, like captain kirk, the attraction of ‘boldly going where no man has gone before’ might prove irresistible.
what i do like is uniform play (my only kink otherwise i’m a sausage and mash kinda guy) and i’d asked her to bring her own authentic uniform. previously she had been too shy (she thinks that she looks a bit ugly in it) or absent minded to remember, but on our most recent meeting she finally brought it. and lovely she looked in it, if dangerously jailbaitish. but she is a naughty girl and quickly got as much into it as i was. she insisted that she should get on her knees and blow me (nearly away!) and then we proceeded to fuck our brains out, her still wearing the uni. she is a wild kid at heart but this must have exceptionally pressed her buttons for she left me trailing in her wake. she later said that she had had three orgasms, which was a first for her. in her mind, she admitted, she was thinking that she would have to wear that very same uniform the next day (no time to wash it) and was sure that she and others would be able to smell our sex on it and it was turning her on. who says that these girls have no secret sexual fantasy life? don’t think that i will have any bother getting her to bring it in future.
she is already talking about wanting to enroll in nursing college when she graduates in a couple of weeks time, so i am already fantasizing about one of those lovely one piece white student nursey uniforms, complete with white silk suzzies/nylons and a cute little nursey hat (ok, so i’ll have to add these latter items myself).
ahh, life is good in the philippines:d.
here’s a post coital shot. sorry that i cannot show the stunned, dreamy look that she had on her face, but i can assure you that it was a picture.
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]One of my latest Giks is a 20 year old, 4th year high school student, who I met ...[/QUOTE]
I'm really not prone to envy, but you wouldn't be able to tell at the moment ... WOW. In your shoes, I'd definitely hold onto that one for awhile. Certainly I'd train her up a bit more, but that is half the fun. Definitely a keeper.
[QUOTE=Guiltyfeet]I have broken a crown, but i'm scheduled to fly to manila on April 6. I'm thinking that i can partially fund my trip with the money i save by using a Manila dentist.
Any opinions? Has anyone had similar services provided by a good dentist there, and if so, what is a reasonable cost? Do you recommend him/her?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
I see the dentist every year in Manilal. I get a cap or 2 and it pays for the plane tickets. I had a dental implant last time that was about $2000 less than my US dentist.
Sent me an PM, if you want their website.
[quote=gamahucher]one of my latest giks is a 20 year old, 4th year high school student, who i met in a freelance p4p situation at the santo nino festival some weeks ago. such encounters are usually a one-off for me, but she was such a sweet, bright and compliant girl that i took her cp no and we have met several times since. she has a fun, bubbly personality if a little rep001ty, and is good to hang out with. although she has a slim and girlish body, facially she looks her age and when she has her slap on, looks older than her years.
i have since found out some of her tough life story. she was born in an atypically large and impoverished family in a province, not too far from manila. her farmer father died 5 years ago when she was a third year student at a public high school. up to that point she was the family’s big hope for the future as she was an exceptionally bright student with every chance of obtaining a scholarship to a good manila college. but the death of her father scuppered these plans and she was forced to leave school and move to manila where she found work in a soap making factory. here she worked for 4 years, sending most of her wages back home to support her mother and remaining family. she lost her virginity at age 17 to a 30 year old married filipino who promised to leave his wife and live with her but, of course, never did. she had a couple of pregnancy scares but luckily nothing came of them. the guy eventually went back to his wife, leaving her distraught and bitter. at this time an older, more experienced friend persuaded her to visit la café where she lost her p4p cherry to a japanese punter. the experience was scary for her (the guy was rough with her) so she didn’t return for some months but shortage of cash eventually told and she returned. she tells me she visited la café on average once or twice a month and was on her way there when i met her (). last year she met a nice elderly japanese guy who is now sending her a small monthly allowance so that she was able to resume her interrupted education and pay her way through high school. there is also a german guy somewhere in the background who also sends her money on a less regular basis.
such is her potted life history for those who, like me, try to look a little beyond the lbfm stereotype. but this is isg and i am a player so i guess i better cut to the chase.
r is a can-do, experimental sort of girl. on our last meeting she asked me what anal sex was like and whether it was painful. i told her that since i had never had a dick up my arse, i wouldn’t know. we had a good laugh about that. but 5 minutes earlier i had had a finger or two embedded deep up her chocolate chute as we screwed, which she had appeared to have thoroughly enjoyed. so i guess that her ass cherry is there for the taking if i want it. anal sex is no big deal for me, so maybe i will and maybe i won’t. but i guess that, like captain kirk, the attraction of ‘boldly going where no man has gone before’ might prove irresistible.
what i do like is uniform play (my only kink otherwise i’m a sausage and mash kinda guy) and i’d asked her to bring her own authentic uniform. previously she had been too shy (she thinks that she looks a bit ugly in it) or absent minded to remember, but on our most recent meeting she finally brought it. and lovely she looked in it, if dangerously jailbaitish. but she is a naughty girl and quickly got as much into it as i was. she insisted that she should get on her knees and blow me (nearly away! ) and then we proceeded to fuck our brains out, her still wearing the uni. she is a wild kid at heart but this must have exceptionally pressed her buttons for she left me trailing in her wake. she later said that she had had three orgasms, which was a first for her. in her mind, she admitted, she was thinking that she would have to wear that very same uniform the next day (no time to wash it) and was sure that she and others would be able to smell our sex on it and it was turning her on. who says that these girls have no secret sexual fantasy life? don’t think that i will have any bother getting her to bring it in future.
she is already talking about wanting to enroll in nursing college when she graduates in a couple of weeks time, so i am already fantasizing about one of those lovely one piece white student nursey uniforms, complete with white silk suzzies/nylons and a cute little nursey hat (ok, so i’ll have to add these latter items myself).
ahh, life is good in the philippines: d.
here’s a post coital shot. sorry that i cannot show the stunned, dreamy look that she had on her face, but i can assure you that it was a picture.[/quote]gorgeous pic. as you well know i have a hottie too who loves to don the uniforms. shes done the short skirted uniform, . the long skirted uniform. the nurses uniform. and made up her own secretary outfit. she tells me shes having a police uniform made as a birthday gift for me. yeah. long live the uniform fetishists. oh and of course. the suspenders and garter belt.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]to Gulity feet,
I have dental work done in China ,Manila and Bangkok ,I think Bangkok dentist service is much better ,I have a crown done in Shenzhen china 2 yr ago for 240 usd but I have it redone in BBK last yr because is not fit correctly .
I have cleaning and exam done in Manila before about 20 usd they do a ok job not as good as in the US and Bangkok .
Fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]
I have had extensive dental work done in both countries and in my opinion Thailand wins hands down in terms of quality and price. Keep in mind I only go to the best places in both countries. Dental Joy in Bangkok and Asian Hospital and St. Luke’s in Manila.
[QUOTE=Ekspat]Just for the old fashioned tests like Elisa or western blot.
These go for the antibodies.
Go for a PCR test and the window is a few days only.
Cheers![/QUOTE]I would like to know too. Is there anyplace I can get this done in AC or Manila?
Thanks
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Gorgeous pic. As you well know I have a hottie too who loves to don the uniforms. Shes done the short skirted uniform, . The long skirted uniform. The nurses uniform. And made up her own secretary outfit. She tells me shes having a police uniform made as a birthday gift for me. Yeah. Long live the uniform fetishists. Oh and of course. The suspenders and garter belt.[/QUOTE]
Yes FF, and it all the more fun when it is their actual uniform. Boffed a nurse here not so long ago. Nothing like a game of adult doctors and nurses to get the blood rushing! Once in UK I knobbed a Women Traffic Warden in full uniform. Had to do it from behind as she had a face like a bulldog chewing a wasp:D. Things us guys will do to avoid a ticket;).
[QUOTE=Houziwang] I'd definitely hold onto that one for awhile. Certainly I'd train her up a bit more, but that is half the fun. Definitely a keeper.[/QUOTE]
Thanks H - fully intend to for a while as she has a up-for-it attitude and my deviously depraved mind has a few things in mind for us to try :D.
Longtime members may remember a banned poster who went by these monikers: Tee It Up then Face Pisser then Prov1 then Bareback Bill then WhyMe then West Coast Will then Dildo Danny then Urban Lowlife. All of these monikers were banned after a while. But he had a colorful history and personally dispatched Junior and On The Go (now Urban Wildife). My point is this: I recently received an invitation from this character to join him for a round of golf at Intramuros next week.
I'll get to Manila on Monday and begin the usual round of fornication with the local prostitutes. I'm just worried about taking up with this character on his invitation and I thought I would ask the membership what they thought about it. This banned poster has tangled with other antagonists like Surfer and Xman. I sit here in San Francisco as I write this. Lot of fags here.
Don
[QUOTE=Dashing Don]Longtime members may remember a banned poster who went by these monikers: Tee It Up then Face Pisser then Prov1 then Bareback Bill then WhyMe then West Coast Will then Dildo Danny then Urban Lowlife. All of these monikers were banned after a while. But he had a colorful history and personally dispatched Junior and On The Go (now Urban Wildife). My point is this: I recently received an invitation from this character to join him for a round of golf at Intramuros next week.
I'll get to Manila on Monday and begin the usual round of fornication with the local prostitutes. I'm just worried about taking up with this character on his invitation and I thought I would ask the membership what they thought about it. This banned poster has tangled with other antagonists like Surfer and Xman. I sit here in San Francisco as I write this. Lot of fags here.
Don[/QUOTE]
If he is weird, stubborn, ornery or violent on ISG. He is weird, stubborn, ornery or violent in real life. Then again I have come to the conclusion a lot of ISG members are “internet tough guys.” But if he can’t keep his cool here I wouldn’t want to be around him in 3D. I respect guys like Nic Frenchy who whenever he has a spat here with another member he never fails to offer to buy them a drink at Giotto’s.
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Hey everyone,
My boss was benevolent enough to let me go for 10 days, so I booked a frequent flyer mile ticket to Manila. 2 travel days, 4 days in Manila and 4 days at a resort on Malapascua Island, which is located off the northern tip of Cebu Island.
My flight arrived at around 11:30 pm and I arrived at the hotel at around 1 am. I had never been to Burgos Street in Makati, so I decided to book a room at the Best Western Astor Hotel, which is on Makati Avenue within walking distance to Burgos.
After a shower I walked over there at around 2 am. I had no intention of barfining anyone because I had read how expensive they are. So I just wanted to stroll around and take in the sights.
As most of you know, the place can get on your nerves after a while. Every 50 yards or so I met up with some jerk selling Viagra or Cialis who wouldn’t take NO for an answer. Or by some guy asking me if I wanted a girl (like I couldn’t find one on my own, haha). Plus I got hounded by more than my share of gays. They weren’t even good looking gays! I’m not sure who would go off with one of them!
But eventually I made it down to the intersection of Burgos and Makati, and started walking along Makati Avenue toward Ayala. After a couple hundred yards I started to pass by a 7-11 and stumbled across an area where streetwalkers congregate. There were about 10 of them there, and 8 of them were either gay or friggin ugly. But there was one standout who immediately caught my eye.
Her name was Shine. 19 years old, cute and petite, no kids. She had a nice smile and was very pleasant. Was wearing a really cute plaid sun dress with two inch heels. Easily the best of the bunch, and I didn’t haggle with her when she offered long time service for 1500 pesos.
We laid around and watched some cartoons for a while (it’s amazing how Asian women love watching Mr. Bean, haha). Then we started kissing, which she really seemed to love. We kissed and felt each other up for about 20 minutes, then I asked to go forward.
Blow job was rather mechanical, but she has a physically large mouth with no gag reflex, so it definitely felt great even with a condom on.
After 5 minutes I motioned that it was time to get busy. She easily had the tightest pussy I’ve ever encountered in the Phils. I wish I had brought some lubricant with me, but eventually she loosened up and Ol’ Stiffy had a great time.
We then slept for a while, and at around 7 am she asked if she could go. I was pretty tired and had no desire for a second shot, so I let her leave. 5 minutes later the hotel receptionist called to let me know she was leaving. I appreciate it when they do call, it’s nice to know someone is looking out for us in case we get drugged.
At around 11 am I met up with a gal from the Date in Asia (DIA) website. 32 years old, originally from Dipolog who was waiting in Manila for her visa to arrive so she could go to HK to work as a DH.
She acted as a combination of a tour guide and "companion". The first day we went to Ocean Park and looked at the marine life, then went to the Mall of Asia to gawk at all the stores. Later that night we met up with 4 of her girl friends at a place called the Cowboy Grille where we listened to a popular Filipino band called "Aegis". A big tankard of beer and a big plate of munchies cost me around 1000 pesos. Try taking 5 women out on the town in the USA for a mere $20-25 for the whole evening!
One of the gals was stunningly gorgeous. Easily an 8 or 9 on my scale. Near the end of the evening she sat next to me at the table and said, "Joe, I know you are with Susan tonight, but I really would like to be with you sometime". She then took out a pen and wrote her number on a piece of paper and I filed it away for future reference. God, what a country!
I didn’t want to rush things with my DIA friend, so at the end of the evening I said goodnight and took a cab back to Makati. At around 2 am I was ready for action, so I found another 1500 peso gal roaming the street. 25 years old, kind of chubby around the middle, but she was cute and fun. No earth-shattering sex, just a nice relaxing way to cap off the night.
The next day I met up with my DIA friend and we took the bus to Tagaytay for a day trip with five of her friends (2 guys and 3 gals). Total cost for bus fare, horseback riding, and a really nice lunch at a Filipino cuisine restaurant totaled around $110 US. None in the group had ever been to Tagaytay before, so it was a real treat for them. Considering that last year I was paying upwards of $60 for day trip on an escorted tour in Thailand, I thought the day’s expenditure was a bargain price. Plus my friend said she wanted to ride with me in the taxi to make sure I had no problems on my trip back to the Cherry Blossoms hotel. I had changed hotels because the Burgos Street scene had gotten old, and I felt more comfortable back in the familiar surroundings of Ermita.
Somehow I wasn’t too surprised when she walked into the hotel with me and stayed all night. How kind of her, saving me from spending 1500 pesos to find a companion for the evening, haha.
Also, it was my first time of really interacting with Filipinos in a social situation, and they were quite entertaining and fun. Even the two guys seemed to enjoy my company and we had a great time laughing and joking around. One bonus was that two of the ladies asked for my mobile phone and proceeded to enter their phone numbers. Guess they were smart enough to know that my "date" was heading out of the country for two years and hoped I would get in touch with them on future visits.
Continuing my experience as a tourist, the next day my DIA friend and I took the bus to Pangasjan falls, located about 3 hours south of Manila. For those of you who have never gone there, it’s quite a scenic journey by "long boat". It was overrun by Korean tourists and everyone has their hand out for tips, but it was still a great way to waste a day as a tourist. Heck, I can’t spend all day and night dipping my wick. Joe needs time to recover.
I had told her I was heading to Cebu for a few days to check out some potential retirement spots. I had expected she would hint at me taking her along, but she had to stay in MNL to wait for her visa and attend some DH-related classes.
I went to the Cebu Pacific ticket office at the Robinsons Mall and was stunned to find I could fly to Cebu later that day and return 4 days later for a mere 3800 pesos. Try arranging a similar flight on a US airline for $80!
I won’t bore you with details about Malapascua Island, but it is sure a lovely place. A great island to spend a few days, but be sure to bring your own lady with you. Thank goodness I had another DIA hookup waiting for me in Cebu.
Anyway, I had a one day layover (two nights) in MNL before heading back to the USA. I arrived at the Cherry Blossoms hotel by 8 pm and was out on the prowl by 9. I decided to go check my email at the internet café just down the block from the LA Café, and I spied a young cutie waiting for her friend to finish her internet surfing. We both exchanged smiles, then I sat down at my terminal. After spending 20 minutes there, I paid and walked outside and she was standing right outside the door all alone. She came right up to me and said she had been waiting for me to finish. We exchanged pleasantries and I asked how much it would be for her to come to my room. She said it would be 1, 000 pesos for all night. I knew I wasn’t going to find anyone cuter or nicer or cheaper at the LA Café, so we struck a deal.
Her name was Anna, 25 years old from CDO. One child, but she still had a very tight pussy. We went back to the room, showered, and watched tv for a while, then started the usual routine. Kissing, blow job, and then "the deed". Great time for 1, 000.
She loved cuddling me while we slept, which was really nice. The problem came when I woke up at 9 am and wanted to start my day. Unfortunately she was dead asleep and I couldn’t wake her up. I went in and showered and shaved, and came back to bed and told her she needed to go. She protested and said she was too tired to go. My God, these women will sleep all day if you let them!
The premise of P4P is that you never pay a woman for sex, you pay them to leave. With that in mind, I forcefully told her she had to shower and go now. She finally dragged her ass out of bed and 30 minutes later she was on her way with 1, 200 pesos.
I met up with my DIA friend at around noon and we spent the day window shopping at the mall and generally being lazy. Of course we made promises to each other that we would keep in contact while she was in Hong Kong. It’s amazing what I will agree to in order to get laid, haha.
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[QUOTE=Illogic]I respect guys like Nic Frenchy who whenever he has a spat here with another member he never fails to offer to buy them a drink at Giotto’s.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Illogic, I am flattered.
But wait... hey! I hope people will not start to argue with me just for the sake of having Free Drinks at Giotto's LOL
You are starting to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off already Frenchy!!
Yeah ..[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off back to where you belong ;) ;).
Is this just a special guest appearance or are you a secret Philippines lurker? :D
I went out 3 different days in a row. 1st day I went bar hopping in Makati. Girls are plentiful but the barfines and lady drinks are ridiculous. Knowing what I know I would rather not pay those prices. While there were some stunners. I passed and ended up getting two phone numbers discretely. One from a waitress and one from a girl at Bottoms who took my phone and dialed her number then started texting me the day after. I probably wouldn't return here for a while. There seems to be alot of streetwalkers but I seem to have a fear that they are all he-shes. So I won't take the risk.
Day 2 was EDSA.
I went barhopping at all of the bars in the complex. While the ladydrinks are cheaper than Makati Burgos St---I did not like the agressive attitude of the girls or the Mamasans. Every time I would go to a bar, there would be like 6 girls and they would start with the obligatory questions and asking me to buy them deinks. Its just too much. I ended up passing again.
Day 3 I went to LA Cafe. Saturday night was hopping. Lots of hotties. I went upstairs and while the girls are not agressive, If you just chat one of them up they will talk to you. I saw this ridiculously beautiful 20 year old girl in the corner by herself drinking a beer. I went up to her and started chatting her up and she was giving me one word answers and didn't seem too interested but after a while she started asking me questions. The only problem was that there were like 3 other guys agressively pursuing her. She was a huge tease and started rubbing up against me lightly and then motioned for me to give her a kiss (maybe to make the other guys jealous? )I then asked her if she wanted to go with me---She just stalled and said she wanted to stay there longer. I told her I was leaving as it was 3am and I wanted to play Baccarat at the Hyatt. She says "Whats wrong with you"--I told her that if I wanted to play games I will play them at the casino and try and win money. She asked me to give her my number which I did and she actually texted me this morning telling me she is bored and her likes are swimming and smoking weed. Who knows maybe she'll budge---By the way I won 16000pesos playing Baccarat in like 30 minutes so it was probably the best decision to leave.
I did not want to go home empty handed 3 nights in a row so on the way home (I live in the Fort)I stopped at this place called japnys bar and restaraunt or something like that. (no restaraunt but its near LA Cafe)_There are like 15 girls and they line up for you. I chose 2 gorgeous young gals. I paid the mamasan 3000 for both of them and gave them each 1000 when they left around 9 am. They basically did anything I wanted so use your imagination. So all in all--if I did it again I would just go to LA Cafe and choose there as that seems to be the best option in Manila IMHO.
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Just returned from AF One about one hour ago. Nothing has changed. Economy class girls were 800p (room only), but you could upgrade to business class room for 1000p (200p more), which I did. The first girl I chose was from Davao, after taking shower she informed me "one baby". I put on my robe, walked out to the front, complained, and they let me pick another girl, no extra charge. Amazing! The guy at the front told me I should have told him that I wanted a girl with no baby and he would have helped more. OK. The 2nd girl was "fair" small breasts, just hugged for a while, then decided that is enough. Gave her 500p, she seemed a little disappointed, but what the hell. Did nothing..anyway, if you go, do take the business class room, even if you take the economy girl. The economy rooms really suck, the business room are large, have toilet, closet, steam room, good size shower, small fridge, which contains drinks - can of sprite was 155p. If you order iced tea it is over 200p !!! Will probably go back tomorrow to try the bus. and first class girls..only problem is the rooms for those girls are 2000p!! The guy in front say the tip for the girl is 2000p also.
[QUOTE=Keen Eye Joe]Hey everyone,
My boss was benevolent enough to let me go for 10 days, so I booked a frequent flyer mile ticket to Manila. 2 travel days, 4 days in Manila and 4 days at a resort on Malapascua Island, which is located off the northern tip of Cebu Island.
Great Information that I can put to use. My next trip I will not have much time and I have been practicing Tagalog. I plan to travel around Luzon and meet different girls there, with a side trip to Davao because I have a few girls there already broken in and ready to go from my last trip.
I hope to get 3 weeks off from work, but my boss can be a dick so I may be stuck with only 2 weeks.
[QUOTE=Mr Hawaii]Just returned from AF One about one hour ago. Nothing has changed. Economy class girls were 800p (room only), but you could upgrade to business class room for 1000p (200p more), which I did. The first girl I chose was from Davao, after taking shower she informed me "one baby". I put on my robe, walked out to the front, complained, and they let me pick another girl, no extra charge. Amazing! The guy at the front told me I should have told him that I wanted a girl with no baby and he would have helped more. OK. The 2nd girl was "fair" small breasts, just hugged for a while, then decided that is enough. Gave her 500p, she seemed a little disappointed, but what the hell. Did nothing..anyway, if you go, do take the business class room, even if you take the economy girl. The economy rooms really suck, the business room are large, have toilet, closet, steam room, good size shower, small fridge, which contains drinks - can of sprite was 155p. If you order iced tea it is over 200p !!! Will probably go back tomorrow to try the bus. and first class girls..only problem is the rooms for those girls are 2000p!! The guy in front say the tip for the girl is 2000p also.[/QUOTE]Your post shocked me:eek:as I have been to AF1 over 10 times and I have always got full service. My understanding is it was full service on every level. Also, if you go noon until six it is cheaper.
Anyone else not get full service here?
Robb
[QUOTE=Simeon Jones]I went out 3 different days in a row. 1st day I went bar hopping in Makati. Girls are plentiful but the barfines and lady drinks are ridiculous. Knowing what I know I would rather not pay those prices. While there were some stunners. I passed and ended up getting two phone numbers discretely. One from a waitress and one from a girl at Bottoms who took my phone and dialed her number then started texting me the day after. I probably wouldn't return here for a while. There seems to be alot of streetwalkers but I seem to have a fear that they are all he-shes. So I won't take the risk.
Day 2 was EDSA.
I went barhopping at all of the bars in the complex. While the ladydrinks are cheaper than Makati Burgos St---I did not like the agressive attitude of the girls or the Mamasans. Every time I would go to a bar, there would be like 6 girls and they would start with the obligatory questions and asking me to buy them deinks. Its just too much. I ended up passing again.
Day 3 I went to LA Cafe. Saturday night was hopping. Lots of hotties. I went upstairs and while the girls are not agressive, If you just chat one of them up they will talk to you. I saw this ridiculously beautiful 20 year old girl in the corner by herself drinking a beer. I went up to her and started chatting her up and she was giving me one word answers and didn't seem too interested but after a while she started asking me questions. The only problem was that there were like 3 other guys agressively pursuing her. She was a huge tease and started rubbing up against me lightly and then motioned for me to give her a kiss (maybe to make the other guys jealous? )I then asked her if she wanted to go with me---She just stalled and said she wanted to stay there longer. I told her I was leaving as it was 3am and I wanted to play Baccarat at the Hyatt. She says "Whats wrong with you"--I told her that if I wanted to play games I will play them at the casino and try and win money. She asked me to give her my number which I did and she actually texted me this morning telling me she is bored and her likes are swimming and smoking weed. Who knows maybe she'll budge---By the way I won 16000pesos playing Baccarat in like 30 minutes so it was probably the best decision to leave.
I did not want to go home empty handed 3 nights in a row so on the way home (I live in the Fort)I stopped at this place called japnys bar and restaraunt or something like that. (no restaraunt but its near LA Cafe)_There are like 15 girls and they line up for you. I chose 2 gorgeous young gals. I paid the mamasan 3000 for both of them and gave them each 1000 when they left around 9 am. They basically did anything I wanted so use your imagination. So all in all--if I did it again I would just go to LA Cafe and choose there as that seems to be the best option in Manila IMHO.
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Where is japnys bar in relation to LA cafe?
A few of you guys recommended a girl a while back named anna that was a freelancer. Any chance I could get her contact info since finally I will be touching down in mnl.
Also, what are my best options for short time hotels, I hear sogo are decent.
[QUOTE=Mr Hawaii]Just returned from AF One about one hour ago. Nothing has changed. Economy class girls were 800p (room only), but you could upgrade to business class room for 1000p (200p more), which I did. The first girl I chose was from Davao, after taking shower she informed me "one baby". I put on my robe, walked out to the front, complained, and they let me pick another girl, no extra charge. Amazing! The guy at the front told me I should have told him that I wanted a girl with no baby and he would have helped more. OK. The 2nd girl was "fair" small breasts, just hugged for a while, then decided that is enough. Gave her 500p, she seemed a little disappointed, but what the hell. Did nothing..anyway, if you go, do take the business class room, even if you take the economy girl. The economy rooms really suck, the business room are large, have toilet, closet, steam room, good size shower, small fridge, which contains drinks - can of sprite was 155p. If you order iced tea it is over 200p !!! Will probably go back tomorrow to try the bus. and first class girls..only problem is the rooms for those girls are 2000p!! The guy in front say the tip for the girl is 2000p also.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like a nice place to relax ,
Do they have a website ? Are the rates the same for all the girls ?
[QUOTE=Sammon]Where is japnys bar in relation to LA cafe? [/QUOTE]Its very near. Just can't explain because I was a bit drunk. Walking distance in the daytime but not recommended at night. Its actually called Japlat or something similar. I am sure that some other members are familiar with it. Either way, you can call the mamasan and ask her to give you directions via text. PM me for her cell number.
[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]You are starting to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off already Frenchy!![/QUOTE]Yeah frenchy you're starting to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off too.
Can I have my drink now.
Still the same - great! This place is College all over again. what a mixture of stunners and "grody gals." You have to be quick to size a gal up coming toward you, otherwise, once you make eye contact they believe it is a signal from you to come over and start talking.
Went in at 1:30 am, wound up staying until 5 am. A very unusual scene occurred about 4:30 am when a blonde caucasin gal (20 ish), about six foot and with the looks of a supermodel, put on a real show dancing at the end of the bar. I just could not believe this gals looks.
Great place just to hang-out and relax, except they are getting very pushy with respect to the junk food and other things they sell. Told one gal, no less than ten times (I counted) I was not interested.
Great post from KEJ.....traveling, meeting the locals, cultural experiences, and gool ol' fashioned sex.
Malapascua details would be much appreciated. I've never been there, but a girl I balled in Ormoc now works at one of the bars. I may have to visit sometime soon.
BTW, instead of taking the horses at Tagaytay, it's only a one hour hike.
X
[QUOTE=Keen Eye Joe]Hey everyone,
I won’t bore you with details about Malapascua Island, but it is sure a lovely place. A great island to spend a few days, but be sure to bring your own lady with you. Thank goodness I had another DIA hookup waiting for me in Cebu.
I met up with my DIA friend at around noon and we spent the day window shopping at the mall and generally being lazy. Of course we made promises to each other that we would keep in contact while she was in Hong Kong. It’s amazing what I will agree to in order to get laid, haha.
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I have to say that I'm surprised everyone raves about LA Cafe. I checked it one night in late December and it took me hours to find someone I wanted to take home (actually, I took home a pair of best friends -- but I had just about given up by the time I found them).
It was very crowded, but the girls were nothing to write home about. Then again, I believe this was a Monday night -- could that be the reason?
[QUOTE=Billpsu]Still the same - great! This place is College all over again. what a mixture of stunners and "grody gals." You have to be quick to size a gal up coming toward you, otherwise, once you make eye contact they believe it is a signal from you to come over and start talking.
Went in at 1:30 am, wound up staying until 5 am. A very unusual scene occurred about 4:30 am when a blonde caucasin gal (20 ish), about six foot and with the looks of a supermodel, put on a real show dancing at the end of the bar. I just could not believe this gals looks.
Great place just to hang-out and relax, except they are getting very pushy with respect to the junk food and other things they sell. Told one gal, no less than ten times (I counted) I was not interested.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Warmjan]I have to say that I'm surprised everyone raves about LA Cafe. I checked it one night in late December and it took me hours to find someone I wanted to take home (actually, I took home a pair of best friends -- but I had just about given up by the time I found them).
It was very crowded, but the girls were nothing to write home about. Then again, I believe this was a Monday night -- could that be the reason?[/QUOTE]
Quality will vary of course. Most of the time you won't find much downstairs, but I think the quality has gotten a little better. I think some of the women now, don't bother to go upstairs so much because it gets expensive for them to go upstairs and not get taken. It's slowing down there in regards to revenue,I think. The other thing is late December a lot of women might have gone home for Xmas. Easter and Xmas are big for them. It will vary either way in talent.
[QUOTE=Simeon Jones]Its very near. Just can't explain because I was a bit drunk. Walking distance in the daytime but not recommended at night. Its actually called Japlat or something similar. I am sure that some other members are familiar with it. Either way, you can call the mamasan and ask her to give you directions via text. PM me for her cell number.[/QUOTE]Based on your description it sounds like you are talking about Japlac. It is walking distance from LA Cafe albeit a reasonably long one. I ran across it on J. Bocobo street somewhere around UN avenue as i recall. It is kind of a hybrid bar/casa type place. The girls I saw there were along the same scale as LA Cafe with a mix of good and marginal. The main difference was most of them were dressed in lingerie instead of street clothes. It was worth stopping in for a beer just to look at the 30 or so girls that were available.
What a classic ripoff. Went there around 1pm, at the suggestion of a friend, to take advantage of their "Happy Hour." It was not so happy.
I am not cheap, but I can recognize a con when I see one.
First off, needed to take a leak, 125p for a towel to wipe my hands.
Asked the manager to have the lady I was thinking about taking stand up. He refused. Asked if I could talk with her a second, He refused.
Despite the extravigant motiff, the room was a dungeon. As soon as the girl got to the room a guy stuck his head in and said "wouldn't you like to buy a drink for the lady sir." The pineapple juice for the lady was 425p.
The gal gave a half-assed massage, and did not say one word during the whole process. It was like I was a piece of meet on a slab.
When she was all done she opend the door and, as she was leaving, politely told me I still had an hour left so feel free to "take a nap sir."
Told the manager on the way out and his attitude was, too bad you already paid (2000p).
Spread the word far and wide, stay away from this place.
[QUOTE=Billpsu]What a classic ripoff. Went there around 1pm, at the suggestion of a friend, to take advantage of their "Happy Hour." It was not so happy.
I am not cheap, but I can recognize a con when I see one.
First off, needed to take a leak, 125p for a towel to wipe my hands.
Asked the manager to have the lady I was thinking about taking stand up. He refused. Asked if I could talk with her a second, He refused.
Despite the extravigant motiff, the room was a dungeon. As soon as the girl got to the room a guy stuck his head in and said "wouldn't you like to buy a drink for the lady sir." The pineapple juice for the lady was 425p.
The gal gave a half-assed massage, and did not say one word during the whole process. It was like I was a piece of meet on a slab.
When she was all done she opend the door and, as she was leaving, politely told me I still had an hour left so feel free to "take a nap sir."
Told the manager on the way out and his attitude was, too bad you already paid (2000p).
Spread the word far and wide, stay away from this place.[/QUOTE]Bill,
This is a upscale place it is very pricey. The staff and the girl work on tips for the FS ,if you turn down the FS her attiude will change to the worst ,this is not a place to come and get a massage ,you should just stay in AC.
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Billpsu]What a classic ripoff. Went there around 1pm, at the suggestion of a friend, to take advantage of their "Happy Hour." It was not so happy.
I am not cheap, but I can recognize a con when I see one.
First off, needed to take a leak, 125p for a towel to wipe my hands.
Asked the manager to have the lady I was thinking about taking stand up. He refused. Asked if I could talk with her a second, He refused.
Despite the extravigant motiff, the room was a dungeon. As soon as the girl got to the room a guy stuck his head in and said "wouldn't you like to buy a drink for the lady sir." The pineapple juice for the lady was 425p.
The gal gave a half-assed massage, and did not say one word during the whole process. It was like I was a piece of meet on a slab.
When she was all done she opend the door and, as she was leaving, politely told me I still had an hour left so feel free to "take a nap sir."
Told the manager on the way out and his attitude was, too bad you already paid (2000p).
Spread the word far and wide, stay away from this place.[/QUOTE]I am really surprised to hear this. I have been several times and know many people who had great experiences there. I for one will stake my reputation on it.
One time I had a girl there that absolutely refused to let me leave without blowing a 2nd nut. She tore the condom off after I had been nailing her for about 30 mins and said I will give you a BJ until you come no matter how long it takes!
[QUOTE=Billpsu]
The gal gave a half-assed massage, and did not say one word during the whole process. It was like I was a piece of meet on a slab.
When she was all done she opend the door and, as she was leaving, politely told me I still had an hour left so feel free to "take a nap sir."
Told the manager on the way out and his attitude was, too bad you already paid (2000p).
Spread the word far and wide, stay away from this place.[/QUOTE]
When you dance with the devil have to learn to dance around the flames.
First, I have been to high end places before and do not mind paying for good service, however, from the very begining this gal was extremely unfriendly.
Second, never had the chance to turn her down, she just headed for the door, pronto, after the massage.
Thirdly, I am not in Angeles.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Bill,
This is a upscale place it is very pricey. The staff and the girl work on tips for the FS ,if you turn down the FS her attiude will change to the worst ,this is not a place to come and get a massage ,you should just stay in AC.
Fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]
Spot on - thank you.
[QUOTE=Illogic]When you dance with the devil have to learn to dance around the flames.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Billpsu]What a classic ripoff. Went there around 1pm, at the suggestion of a friend, to take advantage of their "Happy Hour." It was not so happy. [/QUOTE]
Thanks for the heads up, Bill. I've been meaning to try the place for ages, in view of the positive reviews that the place have received, but will probably now give the place a swerve.
It would immediately put me in a cranky mood with the apparent unhelpfulness of the papasans and the payment demand in the CR for what should be a complementary towel. And the 1200% mark up on the pineapple juice would really get me spitting feathers. Why is it always the case that greed now rather than a longer term view of customer care, is always the keynote in these sort of places in The Philippines? Their business plan is screw the maximum from their customers whilst offering the minimum possible service and fuck the repeat business.
Best to visit either China and Thailand if you are really into the genuine massage parlor experience. There you get the real deal at reasonable, non rip off prices.
[QUOTE=Billpsu]First, I have been to high end places before and do not mind paying for good service, however, from the very begining this gal was extremely unfriendly.
Second, never had the chance to turn her down, she just headed for the door, pronto, after the massage.
Thirdly, I am not in Angeles.[/QUOTE]Billpsu,
I been to Air force one a few time always have good service every time, I know that is very pricey place but they do have some stunner at Bussiness class, sometime you just have to spoil yourself.
I always tip the manager 200 peso they are very helpful, I don't know why the girl didn't offer you extra maybe she didn't like you, I would of compalin to the management to change the girl, Manila is not a good place for a massage, if you want good massage and a FS go to Thailand next time.
Fast Eddie 48
I have always found myself disappointed when arriving in manila without preparation and just intending to find a hot woman just from bar-hopping.
The bar-hopping method is a bit of a miss because the girls may look great but you end up paying a fortune for something a bit rushed and not as good in the sack as they are in looks in the bar.
I have found using chat sites a better bet as you can sort of suss out if the girls are in it for fun and have the right attitude.
The other avenue is just to hang out at the right malls at the right time.
Its clearer so you can see how attractive the girl really is and you have more time to chat her up and size up her attitude.
Had the best fun that way.
Others on the forum can advise you on the best pick up malls.
Again, I do treat myself sometimes and go high end, I just don't know what happened.
Also make it a point to act like a gentleman, sometimes to the point of being effusive, goes a long way her. I just would't want someone else to take that long cab ride (staying at the Hyatt) for nothing.
I have been to Thailand and their massage service is to die for. I fell hard for one gal. Belive it or not, she was 34, but had the body of a 20 year old.
Will be returning there (Thailand) in August.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Billpsu,
I been to Air force one a few time always have good service every time, I know that is very pricey place but they do have some stunner at Bussiness class, sometime you just have to spoil yourself.
I always tip the manager 200 peso they are very helpful, I don't know why the girl didn't offer you extra maybe she didn't like you, I would of compalin to the management to change the girl, Manila is not a good place for a massage, if you want good massage and a FS go to Thailand next time.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Devils 1]I am really surprised to hear this. I have been several times and know many people who had great experiences there. I for one will stake my reputation on it.
One time I had a girl there that absolutely refused to let me leave without blowing a 2nd nut. She tore the condom off after I had been nailing her for about 30 mins and said I will give you a BJ until you come no matter how long it takes![/QUOTE]Could be a reason why you got bad service, I am sure it was not all the girl.
My last comment on this subject - you have been warned.
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]Could be a reason why you got bad service, I am sure it was not all the girl.[/QUOTE]
Anyone had any direct experience with respect to Star Fleet?
Thinking about going before I leave town.
Thank you.
This is a little ridiculous on both sides. In any mongering venue there are going to be downright bad girls. That's the way it goes. Just because one person had a first time bad experience doesn't mean the rest are like that. And for the people who have had success on all or the majority of their visits, doesn't mean there aren't bad providers at the same establishment. It happens, and it will continue to happen. The problem with places like this is that the costs are a little higher, so getting a disappointment stings more than it will in other venues. Whether or not the person is cool or not, might not matter in regards to getting good service. Sometimes, you just have bad luck and get a shit provider. Just because you haven't doesn't mean they don't exist or you won't later. At the same time, one bad provider doesn't make the whole place bad.
-"This is a little ridiculous on both sides."
It would appear to me the essencene of this board is the exchange and debate of information regarding ones experiences at specific locations. Indeed, the discussion that is generated allows the reader to make a more informed decsion on where to spend his mongering dollar.
Presented in the correct manner - as all who have disagreed with me on this matter have done - such debates are not "ridiculous," rather, they are the fundamental purpose of this board.
[QUOTE=Key Master]This is a little ridiculous on both sides. In any mongering venue there are going to be downright bad girls. That's the way it goes. Just because one person had a first time bad experience doesn't mean the rest are like that. And for the people who have had success on all or the majority of their visits, doesn't mean there aren't bad providers at the same establishment. It happens, and it will continue to happen. The problem with places like this is that the costs are a little higher, so getting a disappointment stings more than it will in other venues. Whether or not the person is cool or not, might not matter in regards to getting good service. Sometimes, you just have bad luck and get a shit provider. Just because you haven't doesn't mean they don't exist or you won't later. At the same time, one bad provider doesn't make the whole place bad.[/QUOTE]
Last night in Manila before I meet up with "she who must be obeyed."
Went to EDSA to check out the girls and, after looking at the selection, I actully decided not to go to Angeles City. The vast majority of the girls I saw looked like they just discovered carbohydrates (Jolly-Bee syndrome). My last trip to Angeles left me feeling the same way.
Thanks to the info some gave me from this thread finally stopped at the Cafe Havana in Greenbelt. Great place, only problem was I went on a Saturday night and, as a result, it was so crowded I could not even get to the bar. Notwithstanding, looks like a fun place, will go again.
In my opinion LA Cafe is still best place to monger. I got a hotel room not far away so spent a majority of my time there. I am amazed at the range of girls that work there - had two great picks. The first was a nursing student from Davao. Actually met her one morning at 6am when I went in for coffee. She was 20yo and no kids. She told me this was her first time coming to the Cafe and did not have much experience. I believed her until we got back to the room. She did not perform like a first timer, excellent bbj and great lay. A real matress demon. It was obvious she would have stayed but, since I had been up all night, I steered the conversation around to being tired, so she left.
The other great lay was a gal I literally bumped into at about 3 am. By the way, it seems this is a very good time becasue the panic of having no customer is almost palpable. Also, saw some gals from EDSA come in. Anyway, this gal was 23 and stacked. She acutally had her own condo that some Dr. in LA (US) she broke up with was still paying on until June. She also had an Australian coming to visit her on May 1st, and a German guy on May 5th. Quite a dance card. Turned out to be a great lay. She let me do things to her they don't even have names for yet. Broke my own rule and took her a couple of times.
You should take the time to talk to these girls about their work, I heard some absolutely hilariouls experiences some had. Laughed for hours one night.
One of the qualifiers I had on this trip was that the girl must have no children. I am tired of getting back to the room and seeing everything sag profusely when the girl removes her clothes. No exageration, I must of turned down about 25-30 gals because they had a child. In the US all these girls would be considered very desirable.
One not so great experience was at the Amazonia (up street from LA Cafe). Met a gal, 23yo and very sexy, who told me she had no children. When we got back to my room she took off her dress and, although she was not lying, what she failed to tell me about was the hideous scar on her stomach she received from a knife fight - the only way I could cope was to turn her over (great ass) and finish up that way.
Big cat-fight last night around 10pm when two gals got into it, spilled out onto the street. Not a pretty sight.
Hope some of this was helpful - off to Thailand this August.
[QUOTE=Billpsu]Last night in Manila before I meet up with "she who must be obeyed."
Went to EDSA to check out the girls and, after looking at the selection, I actully decided not to go to Angeles City. The vast majority of the girls I saw looked like they just discovered carbohydrates (Jolly-Bee syndrome). My last trip to Angeles left me feeling the same way.
Thanks to the info some gave me from this thread finally stopped at the Cafe Havana in Greenbelt. Great place, only problem was I went on a Saturday night and, as a result, it was so crowded I could not even get to the bar. Notwithstanding, looks like a fun place, will go again.
In my opinion LA Cafe is still best place to monger. I got a hotel room not far away so spent a majority of my time there. I am amazed at the range of girls that work there - had two great picks. The first was a nursing student from Davao. Actually met her one morning at 6am when I went in for coffee. She was 20yo and no kids. She told me this was her first time coming to the Cafe and did not have much experience. I believed her until we got back to the room. She did not perform like a first timer, excellent bbj and great lay. A real matress demon. It was obvious she would have stayed but, since I had been up all night, I steered the conversation around to being tired, so she left.
The other great lay was a gal I literally bumped into at about 3 am. By the way, it seems this is a very good time becasue the panic of having no customer is almost palpable. Also, saw some gals from EDSA come in. Anyway, this gal was 23 and stacked. She acutally had her own condo that some Dr. in LA (US) she broke up with was still paying on until June. She also had an Australian coming to visit her on May 1st, and a German guy on May 5th. Quite a dance card. Turned out to be a great lay. She let me do things to her they don't even have names for yet. Broke my own rule and took her a couple of times.
You should take the time to talk to these girls about their work, I heard some absolutely hilariouls experiences some had. Laughed for hours one night.
One of the qualifiers I had on this trip was that the girl must have no children. I am tired of getting back to the room and seeing everything sag profusely when the girl removes her clothes. No exageration, I must of turned down about 25-30 gals because they had a child. In the US all these girls would be considered very desirable.
One not so great experience was at the Amazonia (up street from LA Cafe). Met a gal, 23yo and very sexy, who told me she had no children. When we got back to my room she took off her dress and, although she was not lying, what she failed to tell me about was the hideous scar on her stomach she received from a knife fight - the only way I could cope was to turn her over (great ass) and finish up that way.
Big cat-fight last night around 10pm when two gals got into it, spilled out onto the street. Not a pretty sight.
Hope some of this was helpful - off to Thailand this August.[/QUOTE]
Bill enjoyed your reports. Some guys never have a bad time. I believe that like I would believe a drug addict when he or she says they will pay you back later. I appreciate the guys who report the good with the bad.
[QUOTE=Billpsu]Anyone had any direct experience with respect to Star Fleet?
Thinking about going before I leave town.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
I did a report on it a while back. If you do check it out, let me know if it has changed.
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The magic of LA Café, as astute members have previously pointed out, is the anticipation of not knowing what hidden gems you will find when you cross its portals. One thing is for sure is that, apart from the old regular faces, both male and female, there will be always be a bunch of new girls to appraise, every time you visit. Like many an expat Manila resident, my ‘little black book’ is so full of the CP numbers of so many potentials and dead certs, that the real need to use the place is redundant. However, I still like to visit at least once or twice a month and get a real buzz of expectation every time I enter the place. I have met some amazing women in that seedy shit hole.
The thing about LA Cafe is patience, timing and a little slice of luck. The place can be hopelessly full of skanks one moment, but if you leave and return a couple of hours later, it might have undergone an amazing transformation and is now heaving with the fit, young bodies of lovely Pinays. This has happened to me times without number and I assure you that it was not the SML’s that I had drank in the meantime:D. It is simply the mechanics of the place. Many of the girls who visit LA Café are initially introduced by a friend and may have little or no prior experience of P4P. I’ve met so many of this type. They may visit just the once and that’s enough for them, or a few times and are seen no more or become a regular. But one thing characterizes this type of girl and that is that they are initially more backward at coming forward with a potential customer and so you are the one who have to make the running. I have found that those girls who make the initial approach are the more hardened LA pro’s so I tend, these days, to discount this type. So I look to hunt in the darker nooks and crannies where the shyer newbies hang out. Or they are the ones who are wandering around distractedly, as though looking for a lost mate. Making eye contact and smiling will usually bring them out of their shells and over to your side, unless they have ‘For East Asian Use Only’ stamped on their foreheads;). But there are no certainties with LA Café and I have left the place disappointed and alone (or with a less attractive compromise) nearly as many times as I have with a babe.
One thing I have noticed is that the number of lowlifes hanging about in the vicinity of LA Café seems to have increased proportionately in recent months. Is it the credit crunch? I was manhandled, in broad daylight, on Pedro Gil the other day, by 2 bottom feeders, 50 yards from the police outpost! Suspect that I was being set up for a mugging but when I took an aggressive stance, they backed off and I was able to cross the street. I would advise members to be very careful in this area 24/7 and to be particularly careful at night.
There is a scam going on where girls put their hands all over you, hug you, etc., then plant drugs on you. They work with police, who then arrest you, and, well, you know the rest. Security at a hotel told me about this because it happened to one of the hotel guests....so be careful.
Thank you very much.
By the way, great report.
[QUOTE=Robbaf]I did a report on it a while back. If you do check it out, let me know if it has changed.
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Robb[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr Hawaii]There is a scam going on where girls put their hands all over you, hug you, etc., then plant drugs on you. They work with police, who then arrest you, and, well, you know the rest. Security at a hotel told me about this because it happened to one of the hotel guests....so be careful.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that sobering information. A must read for all.
What is front door security doing when all this is going on?
[QUOTE=Billpsu]-"This is a little ridiculous on both sides."
It would appear to me the essence of this board is the exchange and debate of information regarding ones experiences at specific locations. Indeed, the discussion that is generated allows the reader to make a more informed decision on where to spend his mongering dollar.
Presented in the correct manner - as all who have disagreed with me on this matter have done - such debates are not "ridiculous," rather, they are the fundamental purpose of this board.[/QUOTE]Its A guide not the gospel truth from some bigmouth mopes. Tell your story but never think any 2 people ever get the same stories from the same people. I have dated gals that others have had bad times with and made out great. The same goes back the other way, nice to my friend and nasty to me! "not a guys gf just bf gals"
You never know what's GOING ON with these birds, 1 second to the next. They give and get info via text by the second, most of witch is all half bullshit, bola bola info anyway. They tell lies about us "ANYBODY" and try and discourage each other from trusting us.
THIS IS NOT ROCKETT SCIENCE its a smoke and mirrors game played by both sides.
THEY KNOW MORE ABOUT US THAN YOU CAN IMMAGINE, OUR HABBITS, VISITORS, AND THATS A FACT. This could be why some are easily set up for fall. They have eyes, ears, and friends everywhere, and the ability to send this information out. I never went to the same place at the same time, day EVER. Keep the mopes off balance on your trips to the bank, or use a different bank. Twenty pesos in a trike might save you some drama when using a different bank ATM. You here about the scams but be sharp, be aware, stagger your schedule.
Example-they see a guy with there workmate, they might have gotten a bf from this guy days weeks before. The first gals experience was a good time overall for the first gal. She now sees the second gal walking down the street with this same guy, and she gets pissed off because she was late for work, "whatever" and thinks THIS GUY IS HER CASH COW NOBODY ELSES! She then txts the second gal making a shit storm so the second gal could never enjoy her night out even if the guy gave her 1000-p per second.
I am sure every guy has walked into a bar that he has visited before and heard, THATS "WHOEVER" BF, YES-NO.
That's the way it is, its about pera, security, getting the last laugh, making the other guy stupid for some personal gain. WHY DO WE TRY AND BED EVERY GAL WE SEE? THE LITTLE HEAD CONTROLS THE BIG HEAD AND THATS THE PROBLEM. There GAIN IS MONEY, OUR GAME IS pu'''''' that's the deal. Most of the guys here drink so much they could never get a hard joint anyway. Or so fucking old they get semi annual erections, so who they gonna hurt. The fact that some old fuck can travel around an have some 18 year old fetching his drinks gives the moron a false sense of youth. In his mind he thinks he has regained his sex appeal, good looks, testerone like in his youth. The funny thing is the longer they stay here, the more they believe these delusions of grandeur. THE FACTS ARE THEY"GIRLS" WANT CASH, SECURETY, HOME, AND WHATEVER ELSE HE OFFERS UP. I have seen guys go from flush to dead ass broke in a matter of a few years, while others just coast along with there monthly pensions. Either way most guys don't have the ability to deal with most gals head on. I know this because of the difficulty I had and I do not drink! How could you ever be up to good decisions when impaired.
Please don't think the same "turf" shit would not happen at home with a street, club p4p gal. Being the economy is slack in the states the girls working this industry would react both to us and the other gal in much the same way.
Please don't think this BS just happens over here. Gals from here that live in the states do the same things there as well. They lie, steal, tell stories and borrow money that they will never pay back. The just figure they are one up on the pole, and can slide in the old games they learned in there country on the unsuspecting new arrivals.
Play the way you want, but always know the chances are there that at any given time you might get stung. When you play with fire! We all know that answer. Try and give a place a 2-3 visits and get to know the deal. After 3 strikes your out, but who knows, could be visit #2 and you get a home run! Another thing, remember the cost involved here, its cheep money for the gal that treats you good for the night. Relax passe yourself, don't blow your whole load in the first stop.
B. B.
Yes, this area was horrrrible.
I was so surprised.
I was also robbed three weeks ago there by three (maybe four) thugs.
I was lucky.
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]The magic of LA Café, as astute members have previously pointed out, is the anticipation of not knowing what hidden gems you will find when you cross its portals. One thing is for sure is that, apart from the old regular faces, both male and female, there will be always be a bunch of new girls to appraise, every time you visit. Like many an expat Manila resident, my ‘little black book’ is so full of the CP numbers of so many potentials and dead certs, that the real need to use the place is redundant. However, I still like to visit at least once or twice a month and get a real buzz of expectation every time I enter the place. I have met some amazing women in that seedy shit hole.
The thing about LA Cafe is patience, timing and a little slice of luck. The place can be hopelessly full of skanks one moment, but if you leave and return a couple of hours later, it might have undergone an amazing transformation and is now heaving with the fit, young bodies of lovely Pinays. This has happened to me times without number and I assure you that it was not the SML’s that I had drank in the meantime:D. It is simply the mechanics of the place. Many of the girls who visit LA Café are initially introduced by a friend and may have little or no prior experience of P4P. I’ve met so many of this type. They may visit just the once and that’s enough for them, or a few times and are seen no more or become a regular. But one thing characterizes this type of girl and that is that they are initially more backward at coming forward with a potential customer and so you are the one who have to make the running. I have found that those girls who make the initial approach are the more hardened LA pro’s so I tend, these days, to discount this type. So I look to hunt in the darker nooks and crannies where the shyer newbies hang out. Or they are the ones who are wandering around distractedly, as though looking for a lost mate. Making eye contact and smiling will usually bring them out of their shells and over to your side, unless they have ‘For East Asian Use Only’ stamped on their foreheads;). But there are no certainties with LA Café and I have left the place disappointed and alone (or with a less attractive compromise) nearly as many times as I have with a babe.
One thing I have noticed is that the number of lowlifes hanging about in the vicinity of LA Café seems to have increased proportionately in recent months. Is it the credit crunch? I was manhandled, in broad daylight, on Pedro Gil the other day, by 2 bottom feeders, 50 yards from the police outpost! Suspect that I was being set up for a mugging but when I took an aggressive stance, they backed off and I was able to cross the street. I would advise members to be very careful in this area 24/7 and to be particularly careful at night.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the heads up guys. May not even make it to LA Cafe if that's the way the neighborhood has changed lately.
Nobody needs that crap anywhere in the world
As usual, I am only spending a day or two in MNL and getting out of there. But if my thoughts of safety in Ermita are at all compromised, I'll just have the steady meet me at the hotel.
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]
One thing I have noticed is that the number of lowlifes hanging about in the vicinity of LA Café seems to have increased proportionately in recent months. Is it the credit crunch? I was manhandled, in broad daylight, on Pedro Gil the other day, by 2 bottom feeders, 50 yards from the police outpost! Suspect that I was being set up for a mugging but when I took an aggressive stance, they backed off and I was able to cross the street. I would advise members to be very careful in this area 24/7 and to be particularly careful at night. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Redfield10]Yes, this area was horrrrible.
I was so surprised.
I was also robbed three weeks ago there by three (maybe four) thugs.
I was lucky.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]Thanks for the heads up guys. May not even make it to LA Cafe if that's the way the neighborhood has changed lately.
Nobody needs that crap anywhere in the world
As usual, I am only spending a day or two in MNL and getting out of there. But if my thoughts of safety in Ermita are at all compromised, I'll just have the steady meet me at the hotel.[/QUOTE]
PLC you PMed me a while back exclaiming that you knew which city I was from which is the most murderous in America. I find my hometown to be more dangerous than Manila especially considering I was born dirt poor in the most dangerous area of that city.
In my 5 years of going to the PI and now living there I have never been pick pocket or robbed. Scammed and rip-offed you bet but usually this occurs when I am not paying attention, guard down pussy on the brain etc. I don’t know why some guys get attacked and some don’t. I am usually wearing nice clothes when I am out and I am not shy about spending.
What could it be that makes the criminals mark some guys as targets?
I encourage all newbies to go by LA it’s a great experience if you have never been there. It’s kind of a “must see” for the Manila mongering scene
Illogic,
I think you've just been lucky. I find it funny (and sort of insulting) with the constant insinuating that I (or anyone else who has been robbed, pickpocketed, etc.) has done something wrong or has somehow been targeted because of what we look like, who we are, what color eyes we have, how old or young we are, etc.
Sure, maybe if you are a 90 pound weakling and old. Or if you are obnoxious or if you are not careful. But I think many times it's just because manila (and particularly the area around la cafe) can be a rather dangerous place.
I work in Oakland. 4 cops were murdered there last night. There can't be worse city in the united states to live. Nor a more dangerous one. People killed nightly. Horrible, corrupt city. But I have worked there for 12 years. Go out for lunch. Walk around downtown. And nothing has ever happenned to me.
Does that mean somehow I have "the look" that prevents me from being robbed, killed, or whateaver? I think not. It's just the luck of the draw.
That doesn't mean Oakland is safe. It may be that I've just been fortunate.
I will tell you one thing that I am positive of. Bangkok is many multiple times safer than manila. And I never felt in a bit of danger in Cambodia or Saigon. But I sure did in that area by la cafe.
That said. I did love la cafe. Haha.
[QUOTE=Illogic]PLC you PMed me a while back exclaiming that you knew which city I was from which is the most murderous in America. I find my hometown to be more dangerous than Manila especially considering I was born dirt poor in the most dangerous area of that city.
In my 5 years of going to the PI and now living there I have never been pick pocket or robbed. Scammed and rip-offed you bet but usually this occurs when I am not paying attention, guard down pussy on the brain etc. I don’t know why some guys get attacked and some don’t. I am usually wearing nice clothes when I am out and I am not shy about spending.
What could it be that makes the criminals mark some guys as targets?
I encourage all newbies to go by LA it’s a great experience if you have never been there. It’s kind of a “must see” for the Manila mongering scene[/QUOTE]
hotel security told me of the scam, but drugs were planted on the men outside the hotel, in the street. girls would then notify police which hotel the men went in to, but would only have description, not names. can't remember exact details, but the security boss did say he managed to get rid of all the drugs (marijuana) and no ill harm came to the guests. the other scam was mamasans working with **** girls, then calling police after girl got to room (girl would text that she was in room). just be careful, that's all. hate to ruin a good vacation.
[QUOTE=Billpsu]-"This is a little ridiculous on both sides."
It would appear to me the essencene of this board is the exchange and debate of information regarding ones experiences at specific locations. Indeed, the discussion that is generated allows the reader to make a more informed decsion on where to spend his mongering dollar.
Presented in the correct manner - as all who have disagreed with me on this matter have done - such debates are not "ridiculous," rather, they are the fundamental purpose of this board.[/QUOTE]
It would appear that you did not understand what I wrote and made some assumptions. I actually agreed with you that you got bad service and it probably had nothing to do with you personally but was more with the provider. I was saying that going back and forth saying this place is horrible based on your one time experience and the people who have been there multiple times defending that that can't be happening and it must have been you and stuff, was ridiculous. Everyone has their own experiences, and I more than welcome it and agree that's what this board is for. What I don't think is fruitful is people trying to say that it can't be and such. No one here can determine such on such an issue.
It's just like when people come on here and say LA Cafe is horrible and there are no good looking women and such based on one visit and we don't know anything else, like time they went and day of the week. It's very possible that LA Cafe will suck at one moment or day depending on time, and then be fruitful as you and others have reported. To me a report is a report, but to try and conclude such never happened is not fruitful.
In the end, I was basically defending you, but apparently you didn't think so.
[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]Thanks for the heads up guys. May not even make it to LA Cafe if that's the way the neighborhood has changed lately.
Nobody needs that crap anywhere in the world
As usual, I am only spending a day or two in MNL and getting out of there. But if my thoughts of safety in Ermita are at all compromised, I'll just have the steady meet me at the hotel.[/QUOTE]
To me, it hasn't changed that much. You never know over there. If you are uneasy to walk in that area, just don't book a hotel near that area then. You can just take a taxi back and forth, it's relatively cheap.
[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]Thanks for the heads up guys. May not even make it to LA Cafe if that's the way the neighborhood has changed lately.
Nobody needs that crap anywhere in the world
As usual, I am only spending a day or two in MNL and getting out of there. But if my thoughts of safety in Ermita are at all compromised, I'll just have the steady meet me at the hotel.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn’t get too paranoid about your personal security as it will spoil your vacation and bad things can happen anywhere. Just don’t get drunk, keep vigilant, stay on main streets and carry only enough cash for your daily needs. No credit cards. If any dodgy sorts approach you don’t be afraid to tell them to keep away and make plenty of noise if they invade your body space. These are mainly opportunist thiefs looking for easy targets and if you don’t look easy they will usually back off.
Alternatively you might try adopting a swagger, dress in your best threads and festoon yourself like Fort Knox. Lowlifes will probably assume you are loko-loko and keep well clear. Brilliant plan:D.
I almost always get drunk wehn I go to LA cafe. Just don't get staggering drunk when you are by yourself.
And if you do get staggering drunk when you are by yourself, always wear plaid. It confused the locals...and GH too.
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]
Just don’t get drunk, QUOTE]
[quote=x man]
and if you do get staggering drunk when you are by yourself, always wear plaid. it confused the locals...and gh too.
[/quote]
i do hope that when you mention plaid, you are referring to your trusty trews, and that you have not affected to wear a kilt. that really would confuse the locals.
i once had the pleasure of being present when a guy wearing tartan was clever or foolish enough to venture into a nana plaza go-go bar. i think he was on a first time to bangkok stag party visit and thought it would impress the girls. i have seldom seen a guy more embarrassed as he was surrounded by hordes of screaming bargirls all anxious to get their hands up his skirt to see if it was true what is said about what a jock doesn’t wear under his kilt. he was well near raped. lucky man! i’m sure that after he had sunk enough beer to overcome the embarrassment, he had a great time and had his pick of any girl in the bar.
or maybe ended up with a ladyboy:o
[quote=mr hawaii]hotel security told me of the scam, but drugs were planted on the men outside the hotel, in the street. girls would then notify police which hotel the men went in to, but would only have description, not names. can't remember exact details, but the security boss did say he managed to get rid of all the drugs (marijuana) and no ill harm came to the guests. the other scam was mamasans working with **** girls, then calling police after girl got to room (girl would text that she was in room). just be careful, that's all. hate to ruin a good vacation.[/quote]so it happened outside a hotel not outside lacafe.
thought , if its happening outside lacafe what hope have we got. not so , outside an ermita hotel. lowers the threat a bit , but thanks for tip off. seems a variation of the street kids who surround you whilst emptying your pockets.
[QUOTE=Redfield10]Illogic,
I think you've just been lucky. I find it funny (and sort of insulting) with the constant insinuating that I (or anyone else who has been robbed, pickpocketed, etc.) has done something wrong or has somehow been targeted because of what we look like, who we are, what color eyes we have, how old or young we are, etc.
Sure, maybe if you are a 90 pound weakling and old. Or if you are obnoxious or if you are not careful. But I think many times it's just because manila (and particularly the area around la cafe) can be a rather dangerous place.
I work in Oakland. 4 cops were murdered there last night. There can't be worse city in the united states to live. Nor a more dangerous one. People killed nightly. Horrible, corrupt city. But I have worked there for 12 years. Go out for lunch. Walk around downtown. And nothing has ever happenned to me.
Does that mean somehow I have "the look" that prevents me from being robbed, killed, or whateaver? I think not. It's just the luck of the draw.
That doesn't mean Oakland is safe. It may be that I've just been fortunate.
I will tell you one thing that I am positive of. Bangkok is many multiple times safer than manila. And I never felt in a bit of danger in Cambodia or Saigon. But I sure did in that area by la cafe.
That said. I did love la cafe. Haha.[/QUOTE]
Red I am not an imposing figure. I am not even over 6ft. I do hit the gym every blue moon but that’s about it.
I have taken taxis home late at night, early in the morning. I live far from the club scene so it’s a journey back and forth. Got chased by a pack of wild dogs coming home from EDSA when I first moved out here but that’s about it.
I apologize if I offended anyone. I only asked what makes them mark some guys as a target. I took a guess at that question and one member wanted to have my head put in a Guillotine for it. So I am asking the board.
Like I said I live here and have never witnessed anything like pick pocketing or people being “manhandled” LOL. Luck… After 5 years of visiting and now living here when some guys on their first visit get robbed? Trust me my luck is not that good. :)
[QUOTE=Illogic]Red I am not an imposing figure. I am not even over 6ft. I do hit the gym every blue moon but that’s about it.
I have taken taxis home late at night, early in the morning. I live far from the club scene so it’s a journey back and forth. Got chased by a pack of wild dogs coming home from EDSA when I first moved out here but that’s about it.
I apologize if I offended anyone. I only asked what makes them mark some guys as a target. I took a guess at that question and one member wanted to have my head put in a Guillotine for it. So I am asking the board.
Like I said I live here and have never witnessed anything like pick pocketing or people being “manhandled” LOL. Luck… After 5 years of visiting and now living here when some guys on their first visit get robbed? Trust me my luck is not that good. :)[/QUOTE]Been here only a couple of years full time now. Gotta say its no more dangerous than any other big city. Ermita / Malate is a pretty seedy area at night so a little common sense should be used. Situational awareness goes a long way toward personal safety. Walking along the footpath you come across several street people crowding a narrow section what do you do? A) Try to pass between them excusing your self politely or B) Step out on to the roadway well in advance & give them a wide berth?
Correct answer is B. Just observe how the locals instinctively do this.
Walking the streets you are offered a ride by several trike drivers, when you decline they curse you & insult you. Do you A) give them a mouthfull back & get into a verbal altercation or B) Swallow your pride, ignore their taunts & move away quickly but smoothly.
Correct answer B.
You need extra cash from an ATM for that unexpected freeby. Do you A) head to the nearest machine & stick your card in. Or B) look for a macine in an open well lit public area & check no one is loitering/observing?
Correct answer B.
I dont walk about fearful but i do automatically & calmly think about what i am doing.
AV
[QUOTE=Amavida]Been here only a couple of years full time now. Gotta say its no more dangerous than any other big city. Ermita / Malate is a pretty seedy area at night so a little common sense should be used. Situational awareness goes a long way toward personal safety. Walking along the footpath you come across several street people crowding a narrow section what do you do? A) Try to pass between them excusing your self politely or B) Step out on to the roadway well in advance & give them a wide berth?
Correct answer is B. Just observe how the locals instinctively do this.
Walking the streets you are offered a ride by several trike drivers, when you decline they curse you & insult you. Do you A) give them a mouthfull back & get into a verbal altercation or B) Swallow your pride, ignore their taunts & move away quickly but smoothly.
Correct answer B.
You need extra cash from an ATM for that unexpected freeby. Do you A) head to the nearest machine & stick your card in. Or B) look for a machine in an open well lit public area & check no one is loitering/observing?
Correct answer B.
I dont walk about fearful but i do automatically & calmly think about what i am doing.
AV[/QUOTE]
Excellent tips. In addition to using your common sense and situational awareness, your context is important as well. That is, how are you showing yourself? Are you drunk? Moping about the sidewalk because the honey you wanted got away? Not good. Walk with purpose and know where you are going. Always look around so you're letting the bad guys know they won't be able to sneak up on you. Also keep your hands in or close to your pockets when moving through crowds. If you have to use a jeepney, try to sit toward the exit and be aware of everyone on board. I'm not built, I'm rather slender, but while I've had to defend myself against pickpockets on rare occasions (no substitute for awareness there), I've never had a real problem, knock on wood, and I've been in some really dodgy areas around the world.
One more tip: when walking on the sidewalk, don't walk next to the buildings, especially if you can't see into the nooks that provide potential hiding places.
No sense trying to convince folks that it can happen despite taking all the precautions in the world. It's kind of like some here are saying that guy who was broad-sided by a driver who ran a stop light was at fault (musta had gold chains on in the car or somethin').
And from what I've been able to gather Manila "is" more dangerous than a lot of other big cities. Don't kid yourselves.
[QUOTE=Illogic]Red I am not an imposing figure. I am not even over 6ft. I do hit the gym every blue moon but that’s about it.
I have taken taxis home late at night, early in the morning. I live far from the club scene so it’s a journey back and forth. Got chased by a pack of wild dogs coming home from EDSA when I first moved out here but that’s about it.
I apologize if I offended anyone. I only asked what makes them mark some guys as a target. I took a guess at that question and one member wanted to have my head put in a Guillotine for it. So I am asking the board.
Like I said I live here and have never witnessed anything like pick pocketing or people being “manhandled” LOL. Luck… After 5 years of visiting and now living here when some guys on their first visit get robbed? Trust me my luck is not that good. :)[/QUOTE]
Common sense and situational awareness. Amavida is right. Observe how the locals deals with situations.
I will try to have this in mind when Im going back soon.
[quote=redfield10]no sense trying to convince folks that it can happen despite taking all the precautions in the world. it's kind of like some here are saying that guy who was broad-sided by a driver who ran a stop light was at fault (musta had gold chains on in the car or somethin').
and from what i've been able to gather manila "is" more dangerous than a lot of other big cities. don't kid yourselves.[/quote]in my home country of australia, a dude got bludgeoned to death by a pack of other dudes in full public view at the checkin counter of the biggest & busiest international airport in that country just a few days ago. this occurred in the middle of a busy week day in day time. there are airport security & federal police stationed there.
in australia people in minor fender benders get knifed to death in broad daylight by antagonists. in australia people get bashed, robbed & even killed in 'home invasions' almost daily. in my home city of brisbane there is a long running police operation trying to catch a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] who lurks in the city parks.
almost without exception every pinoy/pinay i have met thinks australia is much safer than pi. they are wrong. danger lurks everywhere in every city of every country.
av
that's basically my point. i also, however, want newbies to realize that the area around l. a. cafe is, for example, many times more dangerous than walking down sukhumvit in bangkok on average. i'm just not sure that folks who haven't been to the ermita area know that. i know i didn't realize it. i was thinking it was similar to sois 4 to say 11 on sukhumvit. there you may come across a few folks sitting and begging. maybe a couple a block. but it just has a totally different feel to it in addition to being much safer.
[quote=amavida]in my home country of australia, a dude got bludgeoned to death by a pack of other dudes in full public view at the checkin counter of the biggest & busiest international airport in that country just a few days ago. this occurred in the middle of a busy week day in day time. there are airport security & federal police stationed there.
in australia people in minor fender benders get knifed to death in broad daylight by antagonists. in australia people get bashed, robbed & even killed in 'home invasions' almost daily. in my home city of brisbane there is a long running police operation trying to catch a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] who lurks in the city parks.
almost without exception every pinoy/pinay i have met thinks australia is much safer than pi. they are wrong. danger lurks everywhere in every city of every country.
av[/quote]
Well, firstly before I start I just wana thank everyone on ISG who has helped alot with so much information. Was great help when I was in Argentina, Korea, Japan, Thailand and finally Philippines.
Normally I just read and learn, never had the guts to write anything as I didn't think had much to tell, but after Manila experience I thought I would share some experience.
Arrive in Manila late, about 11pm, checked into lotus garden hotel, which is in malate and pretty close to both robinsons mall and la cafe. But during the night did run into few beggers stopping me with their children and asking for some money.
Since I was close to la cafe, I went their straight away. Place was packed and found girls ranging from 4 to 9 on my scales, even though 9's were bit hard to find. Me being an korean born and only being in early 20's, straight away I did get few girls coming onto me and asking the usual questions.
But one caught my eye, petite and long hair and chatted and asked how much, she said 2500 for short time and I laughed and said how about 2000 long time. Decided with that price and went back to hotel. Cutting story short, she was mechanical but did give great BJ with her pierced tongue and after one pop kept texting with her phone and I kicked her out with 2000 st. I know its not right to do that, but I'm pretty soft and felt with extra 500 it will make her happy.
Next day did the mall of asia and robinsons and back to la cafe about 3pm. Stayed there for a bit and found this girl called monica, keeping it short, she wasnt too bad and managed about 2 pops in 5 hours, as there were not that much chemistry for her to stay the night I said you look tired you should go home and paid her 2000. Next day went to la again about 7pm and picked up C and S and did them both for 2000 each LT. However they did take me to an interesting KTV, as I was new to going to KTV it was exciting. Place was called Porches on 2nd floor 1015-1023 Maria Orosa St ermita, walked up with my two girls to find lots of girls sitting down (I have to admit they looked pretty stunning). Got the room for 3000 which includes a girl and ordering quite a bit of food and drinks. And for extra girls I think it was 500. Don't know if you can take them out, but had a blast with three girl inside and got some dfk with the KTV working girl and groping. I don't know if this is allowed but I was enjoying the company of three girls singing and dirty dancing front of me while one of them would all over me.
Last night in manila went back to la cafe and picked this gorgeous 21 year old who ended up staying with me for about 4 days in subic and my last few hours in manila. Great girl because after one night of paying money as negotiated didn't ask for a cent till I gave her some before I left (which she was surprised about). One thing I love about freelancers is once there is some kind of chemistry, everything just gets much more enjoyable.
Subic bay briefly, stayed at Blue rock cafe, loved that resort, australian owned and lots of english speaking foreigners come there for the girls at the floating bar at blue rock and the diving they provide.
Was with my girl so don't know what they costed but know that some were pretty cute.
Anyway thats my trip to phillipines, I know I should have done more than la cafe but I just made myself comfortable with the place. Going back again in June and will sure to make it to mataki and other places in manila.
Lastly, while I was getting close with 21 year old, she did tell me that even though the upstairs girls are pretty much after japanese or koreans as they pay more, the upstairs girl do stay downstairs for a bit before the upstairs opens up. I don't know exactly when they open but I'm sure some mongers will be able to get upstairs girls for reasonable price when they are down.
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That's interesting! After reading earlier posts, I thought, and once implied, that you lived IN THE PHILIPPINES. You said I was mistaken.
X
Or maybe I've misinterpreted "here".
[QUOTE=Amavida]Been here only a couple of years full time now. AV[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]That's interesting! After reading earlier posts, I thought, and once implied, that you lived IN THE PHILIPPINES. You said I was mistaken.
X
Or maybe I've misinterpreted "here".[/QUOTE]"Here" as in PI. Clear now X?
[QUOTE=Crazykido]Normally I just read and learn, never had the guts to write anything as I didn't think had much to tell, but after Manila experience I thought I would share some experience.[/QUOTE]
Good first report, sounds like you had fun!
Robb
All the girls I got at LA Cafe were upstairs girls. If you are decent looking, nice, and there's chemistry, there's no problem upstairs and I'm as white as they come.
Also, I just gave them the going rate. Laid it on the bed. Nothing ever mentioned.
[QUOTE=Crazykido]Well, firstly before I start I just wana thank everyone on ISG who has helped alot with so much information. Was great help when I was in Argentina, Korea, Japan, Thailand and finally Philippines.
Normally I just read and learn, never had the guts to write anything as I didn't think had much to tell, but after Manila experience I thought I would share some experience.
Arrive in Manila late, about 11pm, checked into lotus garden hotel, which is in malate and pretty close to both robinsons mall and la cafe. But during the night did run into few beggers stopping me with their children and asking for some money.
Since I was close to la cafe, I went their straight away. Place was packed and found girls ranging from 4 to 9 on my scales, even though 9's were bit hard to find. Me being an korean born and only being in early 20's, straight away I did get few girls coming onto me and asking the usual questions.
But one caught my eye, petite and long hair and chatted and asked how much, she said 2500 for short time and I laughed and said how about 2000 long time. Decided with that price and went back to hotel. Cutting story short, she was mechanical but did give great BJ with her pierced tongue and after one pop kept texting with her phone and I kicked her out with 2000 st. I know its not right to do that, but I'm pretty soft and felt with extra 500 it will make her happy.
Next day did the mall of asia and robinsons and back to la cafe about 3pm. Stayed there for a bit and found this girl called monica, keeping it short, she wasnt too bad and managed about 2 pops in 5 hours, as there were not that much chemistry for her to stay the night I said you look tired you should go home and paid her 2000. Next day went to la again about 7pm and picked up C and S and did them both for 2000 each LT. However they did take me to an interesting KTV, as I was new to going to KTV it was exciting. Place was called Porches on 2nd floor 1015-1023 Maria Orosa St ermita, walked up with my two girls to find lots of girls sitting down (I have to admit they looked pretty stunning). Got the room for 3000 which includes a girl and ordering quite a bit of food and drinks. And for extra girls I think it was 500. Don't know if you can take them out, but had a blast with three girl inside and got some dfk with the KTV working girl and groping. I don't know if this is allowed but I was enjoying the company of three girls singing and dirty dancing front of me while one of them would all over me.
Last night in manila went back to la cafe and picked this gorgeous 21 year old who ended up staying with me for about 4 days in subic and my last few hours in manila. Great girl because after one night of paying money as negotiated didn't ask for a cent till I gave her some before I left (which she was surprised about). One thing I love about freelancers is once there is some kind of chemistry, everything just gets much more enjoyable.
Subic bay briefly, stayed at Blue rock cafe, loved that resort, australian owned and lots of english speaking foreigners come there for the girls at the floating bar at blue rock and the diving they provide.
Was with my girl so don't know what they costed but know that some were pretty cute.
Anyway thats my trip to phillipines, I know I should have done more than la cafe but I just made myself comfortable with the place. Going back again in June and will sure to make it to mataki and other places in manila.
Lastly, while I was getting close with 21 year old, she did tell me that even though the upstairs girls are pretty much after japanese or koreans as they pay more, the upstairs girl do stay downstairs for a bit before the upstairs opens up. I don't know exactly when they open but I'm sure some mongers will be able to get upstairs girls for reasonable price when they are down.
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oh, sorry for assuming you did not live in the philippines....after youonce scolded me for assuming you did live in the philippines. things change...congrats. you lucky devil.
on another topic, can you show us those photos from aff which you suggested are the same as those ap posted. he seemed to be a bit peeved about people suggesting that his photos were posted at aff before he took the photos.
and thanks for posting some of your recent pictures. i enjoyed them.
if you find the time, give us a tagaytay field report. it really is a beautiful place. i found the bus ride to be miserable, though.
x man (currently in japan)
[quote=amavida]"here" as in pi. clear now x?[/quote]
This is kind of confusing. The upstairs area (with live band) was always a free for all, often with some regular ladies mixed with the pros. It's the downstairs back room which caters to E.Asia.
What was the going rate?
X
[QUOTE=Redfield10]All the girls I got at LA Cafe were upstairs girls. If you are decent looking, nice, and there's chemistry, there's no problem upstairs and I'm as white as they come.
Also, I just gave them the going rate. Laid it on the bed. Nothing ever mentioned.[/QUOTE]
The upstairs costs a little to enter and it seemed to me that they were virtually ALL P4P girls....albeit very picky. But I had ton hit on me and found very cute ones to take back. Gave 'them between 1500 and 2000 pesos..depending. I probably threw in another 300 for cab if I liked 'them.
I only go with girls I have a great vibe with and it was easy for me to find that upstairs...
[QUOTE=X Man]This is kind of confusing. The upstairs area (with live band) was always a free for all, often with some regular ladies mixed with the pros. It's the downstairs back room which caters to E.Asia.
What was the going rate?
X[/QUOTE]
Last time I was upstairs there, it was a 200php charge to enter. I don't know if that continues or is gone. One little girl was grabbing on me hoping I would pay hers. Didn't happen. Will hopefully be there in about two weeks and I wil give field report.
Yeah. I was thinking 150 pesos. So something like that. Upstairs just gives you something else to do, too. And some of the bands are pretty good. Freddie Aguilar was there one night I was there.
And the girls are a step up. Some are downstairs first but the plainer ones from downstairs don't seem to make it upstairs.
[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]Last time I was upstairs there, it was a 200php charge to enter. I don't know if that continues or is gone. One little girl was grabbing on me hoping I would pay hers. Didn't happen. Will hopefully be there in about two weeks and I wil give field report.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Redfield10]The upstairs costs a little to enter and it seemed to me that they were virtually ALL P4P girls....albeit very picky. But I had ton hit on me and found very cute ones to take back. Gave 'them between 1500 and 2000 pesos..depending. I probably threw in another 300 for cab if I liked 'them.
I only go with girls I have a great vibe with and it was easy for me to find that upstairs...[/QUOTE]
I think the upstairs costs Php100 on week days and 200 on the week ends. The room on the right hand side from the stairs seems to cater more to Koreans and I can understand why given the amounts of money they spend drinking. The other room is more mixed, with girls who have not necessarily targeted Korean guys.
I always preferred the upstairs simply because it was less crowded than the hordes of humanity that seems to congregate downstairs.
GE
[QUOTE=X Man]..often with some regular ladies mixed with the pros... X[/QUOTE]
Really, X. Must admit that, apart from the waitresses and female band members (and the occasional tourist), I have never met any regular ladies (non-p4p) in LA Cafe, either upstairs or downstairs. I would think that the reputation of the place would put off normal girls who would be worried that they might be mistaken for a 'pok pok'.
Agree. There aren't any regular ladies in L. A. Cafe. Ok, very few, if any at most times.
I like the upstiars. Less crowed and I've never had a bit of problem finding really cute girls there. Usually it's fighting them off to find the one I really want. True, the ones upstairs have to walk through the first floor. But it generally eliminates the plain Janes that are on the first floor and either can't afford to come upstairs or can't get anyone to pay for upstairs for them.
Plus, last time I was in there they had Freddie Agular playing upstairs. So they do have some good bands there sometimes and worth it just to chill, regardless of the talent. (which is always there).
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Really, X. Must admit that, apart from the waitresses and female band members (and the occasional tourist), I have never met any regular ladies (non-p4p) in LA Cafe, either upstairs or downstairs. I would think that the reputation of the place would put off normal girls who would be worried that they might be mistaken for a 'pok pok'.[/QUOTE]
I suspect your are absolutely correct.
It's just that I did meet a travel agent on the 2nd floor, and despite me getting down on my knees and begging, she refused me. I was off to AC the next day, but I told her that I went to "the beach" at Subic.
I kept texting her "i miss you" and a few days later when I got back to Manila my bola payed off very well. Not only did I get the golden freebie, I also got a steep discount on my room (she booked it).
Sorry if my post was misleading. She was non p4p, but one is a small sample.
Oh, wasn't it you who recently posted about LA cafe newby? I think we could argue that she is non p4p -- at least until about five minutes before you met her.
X
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Really, X. Must admit that, apart from the waitresses and female band members (and the occasional tourist), I have never met any regular ladies (non-p4p) in LA Cafe, either upstairs or downstairs. I would think that the reputation of the place would put off normal girls who would be worried that they might be mistaken for a 'pok pok'.[/QUOTE]
I've seen the occasional group of civilian babae in LA cafe on weekend nights when there is a good band upstairs. They are like spectators watching the freak show more than active participants (although they WILL dance as a group up by the stage at times). You also see LA Cafe regulars introducing new girls to the scene who are not YET "hookers". THIS is how you grab a diamond in the rough but you must pounce without delay as the age of innocence is fleeting around LA Cafe. Getting intros to a new girl through an established vet whom you have treated well in the past is an invaluable entre.
I've also seen PLENTY of white women in there who would not view themselves as hookers either. So while I concur that the vast majority of females inside are on the game, to jump all over X merely because he said he got blown off by a non pro in there was was a bit harsh. Then again, she may have been a pro but just was not into X that night (even pros can and do reject some offers).
Different people have different experiences, and the wisdom of age has taught me to be less hasty in dismissing observations or opinions that differ from my own.
I've been reading the posts and comments here for a while, taking in what advice and observations I can. I've avoided posting as I haven't been to the Philippines, but I've decided I need to make this post.
You see, I've been thinking about going on a trip to enjoy one of the different Happy Hunting Grounds, and I can't decide which one. This (if it happens, and there are a few uncertainties yet in play) would happen sometime around the end of the year. I'd thought of checking out the FKK scene in Germany, but going in the winter? So, Manila hold my interest, as I've long been intrigued by the LBFM legend, and the prices seem reasonable. At the same time, Bangkok has much to recommend it too, and the prices are roughly equal. Shanghi, while it's prices seem a bit higher, has many attractions (such as the infamous red rope massage). Of the three, Shanghi is cheapest to get to, while Manila is the most expensive. So, I'll ask a question that caused me to name this post:
Can any of the "regulars" tell me why I should go to Manila?
I'm open to suggestions, guys, so make your case and I'll listen to any arguements.
[QUOTE=Castlerae]I've been reading the posts and comments here for a while, taking in what advice and observations I can. I've avoided posting as I haven't been to the Philippines, but I've decided I need to make this post.
You see, I've been thinking about going on a trip to enjoy one of the different Happy Hunting Grounds, and I can't decide which one. This (if it happens, and there are a few uncertainties yet in play) would happen sometime around the end of the year. I'd thought of checking out the FKK scene in Germany, but going in the winter? So, Manila hold my interest, as I've long been intrigued by the LBFM legend, and the prices seem reasonable. At the same time, Bangkok has much to recommend it too, and the prices are roughly equal. Shanghi, while it's prices seem a bit higher, has many attractions (such as the infamous red rope massage). Of the three, Shanghi is cheapest to get to, while Manila is the most expensive. So, I'll ask a question that caused me to name this post:
Can any of the "regulars" tell me why I should go to Manila?
I'm open to suggestions, guys, so make your case and I'll listen to any arguements.[/QUOTE]
Go to Thailand if you just looking for a place to fuck prostitutes….It is safer and the prices are reasonable girls and hotel wise. The ladies are more “worldly” and compliant sexually.
Very difficult to find decent girls in LA cafe anymore. Loads of girls but most if not all are average to ugly. I think one of the reasons is that they just stop the beautiful girls at the door for fear of them being too young so what is left is mostly junk, with the occasional exception. I have a friend, 25 yo, a pure beauty and she is just not allowed in LA cafe because she supposedly looks too young (which is not even true). The limit to enter now is 20, not 18 anymore, and even if you have a birth certificate they will assert that it's fake and not let you in. The quality of the girls compared to a few years ago has dramatically decreased. Also the food in choice and quality has gotten much worst too while the prices have remained high, and you are constantly bothered by sellers inside LA Cafe who try to push over-priced and old chips to you. LA Cafe is definitely victim of its success. I hardly ever bother going there any more and have better luck just going out to regular Malate outlets and meet regular girls, or just go straight to gogo bars. The Management in LA Cafe needs a good kick in the but but they don't bother cause it's still going very strong.
[QUOTE=Castlerae]
Can any of the "regulars" tell me why I should go to Manila?
I'm open to suggestions, guys, so make your case and I'll listen to any arguements.[/QUOTE]
Noticed that you posted on the Thai forum and, presumably,the China forum as well. Best to cover the angles but you will find that most guys have a preference and tends to stick to that countries board and will support their home teams.
Depends what turns your crank. Do you, as Illogic succinctly puts it, like to 'fuck prostitutes', or are you looking more for a more gf experience? This will determine where best you might best head for your vacation. Furthermore are you a meat and 2 veg kind of person or are you looking for something more exotic?
Note - I am referring to the downstairs girls in my previous post. I haven't been upstairs since they charged customers too, not just the girls, but I really doubt the quality would be that much better. The point is, you can still find the occasional jewel, especially if she is very new in LA, but you'll have to wade through so many junk I think it's hardly worth it anymore.
The fact that the "dude" and "other dudes" mentioned by AV are bikies of opposing gangs seems to have been ignored by AV. This information was clearly reported in the news at the time.
As a follow up, an attempt to kill the brother (a bikie) of the deceased "dude" was made last night at his home. The Premier of the State is now considering legislation to outlaw bikie gangs.
The suggestion that one needs to take reasonable care in any city is not in question and is self-evident. But, there is no need to sensationalize and distort events as if they involved some innocent, unrelated bystander or were somehow normal events in Australia.
As an Aussie I do object; it reflects poorly on AV's reporting standards for any other representations he makes in these fora.
Originally Posted by Amavida
In my home country of Australia, a dude got bludgeoned to death by a pack of other dudes in full public view at the checking counter of the biggest & busiest international airport in that country just a few days ago. This occurred in the middle of a busy week day in day time. There are airport security & federal police stationed there. etc.
[QUOTE=Divino]The fact that the "dude" and "other dudes" mentioned by AV are bikies of opposing gangs seems to have been ignored by AV. This information was clearly reported in the news at the time.
The suggestion that one needs to take reasonable care in any city is not in question and is self-evident. But, there is no need to sensationalize and distort events as if they involved some innocent, unrelated bystander or were somehow normal events in Australia.
As an Aussie I do object; it reflects poorly on AV's reporting standards for any other representations he makes in these fora.
Originally Posted by Amavida
In my home country of Australia, a dude got bludgeoned to death by a pack of other dudes in full public view at the checking counter of the biggest & busiest international airport in that country just a few days ago. This occurred in the middle of a busy week day in day time. There are airport security & federal police stationed there. etc.[/QUOTE]This is soooo obviously X Man posting under a newly created account...
I put X man on my ignore list so he creates a new account to continue having a go at me. Oh well off to the ignore list it goes.
How pathetic.
Pathetic? You've posted three times into my pm box THIS WEEK, so please put a bit more effort into ignoring me.
I have only one account at ISG. I have never had more than one account. Also, I've never been to Australia.
X Man
[QUOTE=Amavida]This is soooo obviously X Man posting under a newly created account...
I put X man on my ignore list so he creates a new account to continue having a go at me. Oh well off to the ignore list it goes.
How pathetic.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Denom]Very difficult to find decent girls in LA cafe anymore. Loads of girls but most if not all are average to ugly. I think one of the reasons is that they just stop the beautiful girls at the door for fear of them being too young so what is left is mostly junk, with the occasional exception. I have a friend, 25 yo, a pure beauty and she is just not allowed in LA cafe because she supposedly looks too young (which is not even true). The limit to enter now is 20, not 18 anymore, and even if you have a birth certificate they will I hardly ever bother going there any more and have better luck just going out to regular Malate outlets and meet regular girls, or just go straight to gogo bars. The Management in LA Cafe needs a good kick in the but but they don't bother cause it's still going very strong.[/QUOTE]Look i agree with 100% but it obviously siuts a certain type of guy. I found the girls not that great looking or good personality wise. Just cold commercial ST sex. Prices pretty outrageous also.
AV
Have been to M last week, for the first time. I was at an hotel 30 minutes away from the LA Cafe.
1. The evening I arrived (Sun) I was hungry for love, but there was nothing in sight from the hotel. It was also late. Hotel was deserted. Asked friendly doorman if anything at walking distance for a beer and some music, he directs me at a karaoke bar, 5 mins walking away. Great idea. Place is called club 77 or alike. It was around 12:00, full of girls, music going, but nobody singing. VERY basic place, no frills whatsoever, a bit sordid as well. Sit at bar, look around. If that was not a shag joint I was a Chinese mandarin. Indeed. In a few seconds the waitress arrives, serves me a local beer, investigates my needs.company, I say. Say Hello, to a couple of bystanders, no much success. Look at one girl, not the youngest, almost asleep. Nice face, tight body, age. Wild guess, 25. Who knows. She wakes up and approaches. Turns out she is one the 'managers', asks if I want BIB (no takeaway), 1500 Pesos/hour. I say ok after having seen the room, a couch and a table. VERY basic. She asks who I want, my choice. I say 'you'.
Cut a long story short, we shagged 2 hours on an old couch in a small room, two pops, and it was a long time ago last time I felt that horny. The lady is a tiger, very sweet, full GFE, a dream. Damage 3000 pesos and 1000 tip. She was worth it all.
2. Second evening, with friend, dancing clubs (5-6 under one roof, don't know co-ordinates). Approached several times for drinks, annoying. Girls were average, 1500 barfine and 2500-3000 short stay. Friend was not in the mood, didn't want to leave him alone, stayed there for a while and left, without scoring. Very commercial, very pushy.
3. Third evening LA cafe, same friend. Place was packed (Tue evening), lots of music, full of girls. Quality was average to low, with a few good looking ones. Picked up my lady, friend pick another. Negotiated 2000 long stay, him 2500 same time. At hotel, shagged her for 2 good hours, but at the end she ballooned inside. Turns out to be single mother (vast majority are), and her inner beauty did not keep tight long enough. BBBJ (very poor) and uncovered sex in all positions. She was soaked and came (I believe, who knows.) at least three times. My friend reports the day after similar experience, also her partner ballooned. And flubby frontside, also single mother.
4. Wed, went back to karaoke, with friend. Choosen same girl, other 2 hours. Every hour of BIB you get 4 beers, so time is enjoyable. Couch is not large enough to manouvre that much, but for me and local girls (both small) large enough. Friend reported better experience than LA cafe.
5. Thu, friend leaves in the afternoon, I go to La Cafe, alone. Tried to walk about the area, but have been followed by a very insisting half-toothless, pony-tailed hair zombie, offering to go somewhere else, had difficulties to shoo him away. SW offers blowjob from the other side of the street. Other cafe's, karaoke. Go back to LA. Tried to pick up very nice girl, dressed in red, bombastic titties. No english, sorry. Darn! Pick up another one, small but titted, 2000 long stay. Hard to find cab available to go to hotel on the meter (must take care here), finally found one, got rid of the zombie (him again), offering viagra, condoms, and lastly wanted to be tipped for having found the cab (which I found). Sent him to hell from the bottom of my hart, and left.
Girl very good looking. Shitty personality, annoying. Shagged her briefly at hotel, tight pussy, nice rack, but no fun. She leaves early in the morning, after complaining that according to her I promised to pay for taxi, gave her 100 and sent off. What a *****! Name Syrene, reported 19 y/o, dancer (could be), but a real pain. Second low score for LA Cafe. Not good.
6. Fri, back to karaoke. Wanted to try another girl, ask for 'top BBBJWCIM', got a relatively tall girl. Got a different room, couch smaller. BBBJ not convincing, shagged her bareback (she has no rubbers, me neither. Hell). Soaked as well. 'can I come inside? ', and she goes 'yes'. I jumped back, and came on her belly. Got a lot to think about that nite. Previous partner very unhappy, but she still smiles to me when I leave. That's class.
7. Sat, last nite. Guess what, karaoke again. Go back to my goddess of love, 1 hour only. Too tired (and dried up) to cum, but manage to have a great time. I licked her for 30 minutes straight, she squirted three times (wow, that was cool), more GFE. Told her I was gone the day after. Goodbye, Tess.
My take overall:
Manila is a great place, now 2-3 on my ranking list. LA cafe is out, too messy. Dancing clubs too, I don't like to be pushed into drinking (don't like to be pushed into anything, actually). Sex is cheap, quality can be disappointing. Many girls are young mothers, oral is overall poor (Tess was better but not good enough), anal is hard to find. Touristic areas are badly populated with a mix of zombies, SWs. Felt unsafe, or at least unconfortable. Bareback is commonplace, girls there have a plan in life. Get babies, does not matter how and who is the father. LA Cafe is full of 'brokenharted ladies'. With kids in some remote location, left to the care of grandma. Ant. Sister, whatever. AIDS/HIV is (reportedly) very rare there, but. It is still a risk, toghether with a lot of other nasty souvenirs. Many girls do not have condoms with them, so you have better to be prepared. In general, they truly enjoy sex. The dividing line between WG and lover/girlfriend is very thin. Be careful. It is easy to fall in love with one of these ladies, the GFE they provide is tracerously close to the point of no return.
Tess got to me, real close. I won't mention all the stories she told me, chat is cheap. But she is a sweet lady. If you happen to meet her, treat her well. Manila girls are special. Even if single mothers, ballooned, or with a poor BJ skillset. They are hot, sweet, and will GFE you till you drop. They are also very innocent, in many respects. Little education, they do speak english (basic), are gentle and make you feel well. I will miss them.
Enjoy,
Arthur
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Gaumacher and Illogic,
Actually, I like both experiences, it depends on how I feel and the vibe I get of the woman. I've had a chance, here in the states, to have sex with both Chinese and Thai providers. The Thai woman was by far the best looking, and extremely willing to please (and be pleased too). On the other hand, one of the Chinese ladies ended up letting me go 'over the alloted time' by a very considerable degree (like twice as long! ), was quite happy to snuggle up between bouts, and willing to try/do almost everything (never asked for anal, but she seemed to be in the mood for just about anything else, so.). I write the latter off to a late start time and the fact that the weather that night was pretty bad (she told me at one point that she didn't have any more customers coming at all that night). But, when it comes down to it, aren't we all pretty much about having as much sex as we can, with as many woman as we can, or have I gotten the wrong impression of this place? (no, I don't think I have) so, yes, I'd like to go out, hit on some short time during the day (or a nice FS 'massage'), then hit the clubs/bars after a bit of a rest to find some woman willing to come to my place for the night. So, gam, do you agree with illogic's assessment, that Bangkok would be the better destination, or does Manila have something to offer after all?
(and, yes, I did post ot the mentioned thread. You don't ask no questions, you don't learn nothing, do you?)
But what do you mean by "ballooned?" I haven't heard that term before.
[QUOTE=Castlerae] So, gam, do you agree with illogic's assessment, that Bangkok would be the better destination, or does Manila have something to offer after all? [/QUOTE]Hi Castlerae,
I would say Bangkok would be a surer bet.
Would very broadly sum it up as follows:
1. If you want no-holes barred raunchy sex with beautiful, made-for-sex bombs, go to Thailand and try something like Eden or Tulips in Bangkok. You have the dosh, you can get anything your heart desires in LOS although professionalism is the key and a good GFE is harder to find than it used to be.
2. If you are looking for generally good experiences with unusual touches thrown in (fire and ice, red rope etc) try China. On a recent trip, I was astonished at the overall looks and quality of the service providers and you generally get what is printed on the label, but English is non existent which, unless you speak mandarin, does tend to detract from the experience.
3. If you like the GFE experience (but raunchy sex is available as well) with English speaking girls with the possibility of some enthusiastic amateur action thrown in, come to The Philippines and try AC or Manila or travel a bit further afield to Cebu or Davao. It’s a matter of opinion but I do not think Filipinas are quite as beautiful as Chinese or Thai girls but they more than make up for it in other ways.
For non-mongering pursuits, food etc, I would say Thailand pips China by a nose with The Philippines a distant third.
I’m sure that, whichever of the 3 you decide upon, you will have a great time. If you have the time, energy and money, why not try all 3. With budget airline nearly giving away air tickets, it is not as expensive as you might think.
Have a look at my recent post at [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=862678&postcount=89[/url] for my personal subjective assessment of nooky in 5 Asian countries:D.
Gamahucher,
(and I'm sorry for mucking up the spelling the last time, btw)
Well, money is one of the questions. Not being privately wealthy, I was thinking of this as a sort of once-in-a-lifetime treat for myself, which is why I'm trying to get advice before I dive in head first. I know a bit of Mandarin, but only enough to be sure I can say Hello, and thank you, two things I always thought you should say to a woman no matter what the reason might be you're seeing her. Thai. I know nothing in, Tagalog equally remote, so someplace where I stand half a chance of getting some English is going to be helpful (or I could try signing/miming. No, looking like a horny Marcel Marcoe doesn't sound like a good start, does it? ). Have a month or three before I'm sure everything's going to be in place so I can make the trip, so I have time to keep researching. Thanks for the input, I know you seem to be one of the aces here, so thanks for the time/effort.
This gal sent me a message on Tagged but she said she is in Manila and I am in Shanghai. If it is a scam it is a damn good one. Take a look at the pic from her profile Tagged. Any of you guys in Manila can do what ever want but if you do her for God's sake tell us all about it.
Her handle on Tagged is Nancy K.
ES
[QUOTE=Castlerae]Gaumacher and Illogic,
Actually, I like both experiences, it depends on how I feel and the vibe I get of the woman. ]place for the night. So, gam, do you agree with illogic's assessment, that Bangkok would be the better destination, or does Manila have something to offer after all?
(and, yes, I did post ot the mentioned thread. You don't ask no questions, you don't learn nothing, do you?)[/QUOTE]
Where do I start? I guess at the beginning.
Bangkok:
Proper city. Lot of shit to do. First class malls with first class boutiques. History, temples and other old shit. Pattaya the sex addicts Paradise is two hours away by taxi. Should cost no more than 2000 Baht for the trip.
Manila:
If you ever been to the “hood “or “Ghetto” in America then imagine if it was transformed into an entire city. That’s Manila. Squatter areas, shanty towns all around, unsavory characters. Grime on buildings, Mad Max drivers and traffic jams you fucking name it. Makati what I have nicknamed the Beverley Hills of Manila is the only thing worth looking at. Angeles city the little Pattaya is two hours away.
Safety:
I wear my jewelry in Bangkok. I don’t in Manila. Take from that what you want. I have never had a problem in either country in terms of pick pockets and strong arm robbery. I do feel more “relaxed” in Bangkok then Manila.
Lodging:
I usually stay at the President Solitaire- Platinum suite when I am in Bangkok. Will set you back about $150 nightly. For this amount you get a gigantic hotel room with a Jacuzzi and the whole nine. In Manila at most of the 5 star hotels this money will you get you a fucking basic room. I have stayed at the Shangri –La and Renaissance before I bought my crib here in Manila.
Why did I mention this? To point out Manila is overpriced in terms of lodging the quality leaves a lot to be desired in most places I have stayed at.
The Clubs: Go Gos
Nudity in Bangkok. I have never seen nudity in Manila. Prices… hard to say. I don’t really be checking all that much on prices. I just go with the flow unless my fleece meter goes off (Burgos in Manila). Any place a taxi driver offers in Bangkok. LOL. Lot short time rooms located inside the bars in Bangkok.
The Sex Workers:
I have had some bar girls in both countries act indifferent. I have had some in both countries that didn’t want to leave my side. For the most part Thai girls have offered the greatest “fuck for the buck.” Anal, two-somes three-somes you fucking name it they game. They come to the room and know what’s up no playing around no bullshit.
GFE:
You coming over here to exercise your civil right to have as much pussy as possible or to snuggle and cuddle with prostitutes? When I was just starting out mongering I was delusional I use to try to treat the girls like a girlfriend but I realized this is madness.
I don’t care if she is not sweet as long as she blows me and fucks me like she is supposed to everyone leaves happy.
I had a Romanian in Dubai back 06’ who instantly dropped to her knees once we entered the short time room and right away sucked and fucked both of us into submission and after that got her shit on and left. There was no bullshit no talking but she did her job well.You will find more of this in Thailand.
Shit man depending on how deep your pockets or time why don’t you hit both…. Or two of your destinations?
Take It Sleazy.
what hotel did you stay at in manila?
[QUOTE=Eaglestar]This gal sent me a message on Tagged but she said she is in Manila and I am in Shanghai. If it is a scam it is a damn good one. Take a look at the pic from her profile Tagged. Any of you guys in Manila can do what ever want but if you do her for God's sake tell us all about it.
Her handle on Tagged is Nancy K.
ES[/QUOTE]
At a guess I would say it's a scam as the girl is 100% Afro/American and the furniture and carpets are not of Philippine stye. The quality of the pic also suspect as it is taken on a "hi res" cam may be 10 Mega Pixel plus which is not used by regular girls in the PI’s so all in all I say nope, she is not in Manila. Let me know if I am wrong.
Cheers
Blastoff
[QUOTE=Blastoff]At a guess I would say it's a scam as the girl is 100% Afro/American and the furniture and carpets are not of Philippine stye. The quality of the pic also suspect as it is taken on a "hi res" cam may be 10 Mega Pixel plus which is not used by regular girls in the PI’s so all in all I say nope, she is not in Manila. Let me know if I am wrong.[/QUOTE]
I would agree. She does not look like a Filipina and pic is hi res which is atypical as well. Surrounding room if in Manila would be sort of a five stars hotel too or more likely just not in the Philippines.
Is it the end for LA Café? Article extracted from yesterdays Philstar online.
New modernization plans for the Ermita area are unveiled
filed by Abrilla Tanga on 31-03-09
The office of Major Alfredo Lim today announced a program of gentrification and improvement which will take place in the Del Pilar/Mabini area of Ermita, starting shortly. This would make the area much more attractive and accessible to both tourists and well heeled Filipinos alike and involve converting the largely run down area into a more upmarket district of boutique hotels, shops, restaurants and bars. The government has earmarked the sum of 1 billion pesos from the current fiscal budget for this endeavor.
Congressman Sonny Binibrocha said ‘these plans have been on the drawing board for some time and have now received the go ahead. We hope to start demolishing some unoccupied buildings very shortly'. Others such as the infamous LA Café and Amazonia night spots have been issued their notices of termination of tenancy and will be closing in the near future. It is an exciting time for everyone in the present mayoral administration’.
Ms Bimby Pakshet, a spokewoman for the LA Café confirmed ‘Yes, we will be closing our doors for the last time on Sunday week. It a real shame as it would have been our tenth anniversary in August. There are no plans to open up elsewhere. Everyone here is very sad’.
LA Café and Amazonia are well known within the expatriate community as a boy meet girl hangout. LA Café, in particular is known for its live music. Well known acts such as Freddie Aguilar and Aegis have appeared there. Local sporting celebrities such as Manny Paquiao and ‘Django’ Bustamante are frequent visitors.
[QUOTE=Eaglestar]This gal sent me a message on Tagged but she said she is in Manila and I am in Shanghai. If it is a scam it is a damn good one. Take a look at the pic from her profile Tagged. Any of you guys in Manila can do what ever want but if you do her for God's sake tell us all about it.
Her handle on Tagged is Nancy K.
ES[/QUOTE]Wish it true ES but alas tis naught what ye seek.
Its just commercial porn pic like these are.. see attachment
AV
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Is it the end for LA Café? Article extracted from yesterdays Philstar online.
New modernization plans for the Ermita area are unveiled
filed by Abrilla Tanga on 31-03-09
We hope to start demolishing some unoccupied buildings very shortly'. Others such as the infamous LA Café and Amazonia night spots have been issued their notices of termination of tenancy and will be closing in the near future.
Ms Bimby Pakshet, a spokewoman for the LA Café confirmed ‘Yes, we will be closing our doors for the last time on Sunday week. It a real shame as it would have been our tenth anniversary in August. There are no plans to open up elsewhere. Everyone here is very sad’.
[/QUOTE]Its not my favourite place but its sad to hear one less venue available to us. No doubt another venue will rise up in its place.
Actually the area has been crying out for urban renewal for ages. The boulevard is quite nice area at night again at the moment, its great for the city to redevelop this slum behind the seafront. The same thing was done down in Dipolog recently with a big improvement to that city's amenity.
I cant believe the owners of LA Cafe were not making shed loads of money. Im sure the 'Brand' will not disappear.
AV
Lim is the guy who closed down the bars in Ermita back when it was booming in the 1990's (and thereby set the Philippines backwards compared to Thailand) and recently also closed the water front Baywalk restaurants when it was a treasure trove of money for locals and a high feature tourist attraction. The guy has done so much wrong and harm his karma will be as bad as that of GW Bush. No wonder he is targeting specifically LA Cafe and Amazonia. He is not doing it because the buildings are old, he is doing it because he is dedicated to close down any venue where people can have fun.
As I wrote down recently, LA Cafe was only the shadow of what it was so it does not make me that sad about it being closed but still... hopefully this will be an opportunity for something better to open up somewhere else.
Illogic,
For some reason, I'd expected folks who are from/hang out a lot in a particular area would be interested in others sharing the sexual joys of their fair cities. Which makes the response of the Manila crowd so odd: everyone says "Go to Bangkok! " guess I should adjust my expectations a bit.
As for the rest, well, I hear what you're saying but on the flip side, there is something to be said for that extra bit of time cuddlnig/snuggling. Case in point: the Thai provider I saw here wasnt the original woman I'd expected to meet, that one was busy with a client and I didn't feel like setting around for the better part of an hour waiting for her to service him, so I took the "other" girl. She was fairly young, extremely attractive, both face and body, and once we got down to business, an excellent performer. She was also in a hurry for me to get done, which made the whole thing feel like I was running a race, not having sex. On the other hand, the Chinese woman I mentioned in my post to Gama wasn't quite that young, she had a couple extra pounds (not enough to be called "fat" in any way, though) and she could ahve used a shot of mouthwash. Once we got going, she took her time, made it clear that she wanted me to 'enjoy the ride', and I found out (with a bit of experimenting) what got her going. She got off, I got off, we had a bit of time before the session was supposed to be over, so I laid down with her and we talked (she was originally from Hong Kong so had good English skills). She didn't act like she was in a hurry for me to get gone, so after a bit I asked her if she wanted to go again. She was game and we went into a session that was even better than the first one. After we got done, she took what she'd have gotten for the regular session, thanked me (she'd managed to get off a couple of times during round #2 she told me) and gave me a kiss to boot. So, a bit of extra attention can pay off, and I'm not against it. After all, if all I wanted to do was get my rocks off, I could save the cash and "go manual", but where'd the fun be in that?
[QUOTE=Castlerae]Illogic,
For some reason, I'd expected folks who are from/hang out a lot in a particular area would be interested in others sharing the sexual joys of their fair cities. Which makes the response of the Manila crowd so odd: everyone says "Go to Bangkok! " guess I should adjust my expectations a bit.
As for the rest, well, I hear what you're saying but on the flip side, there is something to be said for that extra bit of time cuddlnig/snuggling. Case in point: the Thai provider I saw here wasnt the original woman I'd expected to meet, that one was busy with a client and I didn't feel like setting around for the better part of an hour waiting for her to service him, so I took the "other" girl. She was fairly young, extremely attractive, both face and body, and once we got down to business, an excellent performer. She was also in a hurry for me to get done, which made the whole thing feel like I was running a race, not having sex. On the other hand, the Chinese woman I mentioned in my post to Gama wasn't quite that young, she had a couple extra pounds (not enough to be called "fat" in any way, though) and she could ahve used a shot of mouthwash. Once we got going, she took her time, made it clear that she wanted me to 'enjoy the ride', and I found out (with a bit of experimenting) what got her going. She got off, I got off, we had a bit of time before the session was supposed to be over, so I laid down with her and we talked (she was originally from Hong Kong so had good English skills). She didn't act like she was in a hurry for me to get gone, so after a bit I asked her if she wanted to go again. She was game and we went into a session that was even better than the first one. After we got done, she took what she'd have gotten for the regular session, thanked me (she'd managed to get off a couple of times during round #2 she told me) and gave me a kiss to boot. So, a bit of extra attention can pay off, and I'm not against it. After all, if all I wanted to do was get my rocks off, I could save the cash and "go manual", but where'd the fun be in that?[/QUOTE]
I agree tricks should not be rushed to finish takes away from the experience. But like I said as long as she does her job. What I also don’t like is girls who come into the room and decide they want to watch TV or other strange acts like touch my laptop…. totally unacceptable. :confused:
[QUOTE=Amavida]Its not my favourite place but its sad to hear one less venue available to us. No doubt another venue will rise up in its place.
Actually the area has been crying out for urban renewal for ages. The boulevard is quite nice area at night again at the moment, its great for the city to redevelop this slum behind the seafront. The same thing was done down in Dipolog recently with a big improvement to that city's amenity.
I cant believe the owners of LA Cafe were not making shed loads of money. Im sure the 'Brand' will not disappear.
AV[/QUOTE]
While I was not a big fan of Café I hate to see another mongering venue close down. Not to mention the place has a lot of history. That’s nice to know that Million dollar man Manny Paquiao used to visit the place
.
I prefer the Gos Gos but LA was a good place to go just to hang out. No pressure to buy drinks. Music wasn’t that bad. It was nice to see the girls in a relaxed environment shooting pool, chasing tricks, drinking themselves into a stupor and not just shuffling around on stage in some beach wear :D
An absolute tragedy. Sounds like it will be closed before I get into town on the 17th. Indeed there are other venues but for convenience and slutiness in that city ........................
Illogic,
Yes, I think I would be very uncomfortable with a provider handling something like my laptop too. For the planned trip, not planning on doing a 'Hannibal crosses the Alps' sort of venture, just what I need to get me through (maybe not even a camera). What with the extra "fees" the airlines are tacking on for baggage these days, I figure the lighter I travel, the cheaper I travel.
Well, think I might follow the Manila advice and center on Bangkok.
Thanks for the advice and good hunting!
Yeah, what a fucker ... but guess you guys are forgetting what day it is;).
If you want tickets for the 'closing' party, get them from Ms Bimby Pakshet. You can't miss her:D.
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Yeah, what a fucker ... but guess you guys are forgetting what day it is;).
If you want tickets for the 'closing' party, get them from Ms Bimby Pakshet. You can't miss her:D.[/QUOTE]
ROTFLMAO! :D
Good April Fools, but I would have had mixed feelings. I'd be glad they may be trying to clean up that slummy, dangerous, dog shit area. But I love LA Cafe itself.
For the time being, I'm done with the Phils anyway. Thailand has it beat in almost any relevant area I can think of anyway except ease of getting there.
[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]An absolute tragedy. Sounds like it will be closed before I get into town on the 17th. Indeed there are other venues but for convenience and slutiness in that city ........................[/QUOTE]
I was wondering if that wasn't a prank when I was driving into work.
Damn!
You got me!
The fact that I could not find anything in the (real) news should have given me a hint...
I feel like... a fool... ;-)
[QUOTE=Mackin]what hotel did you stay at in manila?[/QUOTE]Lancaster hotel, also known as Lancaster Suites. Excellent hotel, very good service.
[QUOTE=Rubio Tonto]But what do you mean by "ballooned?" I haven't heard that term before.[/QUOTE]Hi Rubio Tonto,
You never heard it before because I kind of invented it.
Some ladies, often after having kids, have a tendency to balloon. Their vagina, after some time of healthy and vigorous sex, and possibly a couple of orgasms, loose its muscular tone, and relax.
The result is that, deprived of the contact with the inner vaginal walls, our dearest friend find itself in a sea of. Nothing else but air.
Since making love to air is not its mission in life, as it needs warm, wet, tight and toned muscles around it, it soon looses interest and goes to sleep.
This is very frustrating, but it happens quite often. Age, kids, and overall health plays a role in this matter. Since I love to give pleasure before taking it, it is even more frustrating.
When the lady balloons, she also feels less. If she is the 'uterine' kind of woman, she might surrender and use other tricks, like oral or anal, to satisfy her partner. That is the reason why more mature ladies offer sometimes anal, they can not count anymore on their primary weapon.
If they are the clytoris kind of ladies, they continue to enjoy themselves even if ballooned, but the man does not.
I would be interested to know if somebody knows the 'right' word for this phenomena.
Kind regards,
Arthur
[QUOTE=Arthur66]Some ladies, often after having kids, have a tendency to balloon. Their vagina, after some time of healthy and vigorous sex, and possibly a couple of orgasms, loose its muscular tone, and relax.[/QUOTE]
Plus after having kids their belly becomes in terrible shape. Not all, if they don't scratch while pregnant, but that's the case of most of the hookers you'll find in LA Cafe or Quezon Avenue because they are mostly uneducated. Most of them have kids, which is why they get in the trade in the first place, and they do tend to have kids at a very young age. Finding a P4P girl old enough to enjoy sex but not yet "damaged" is quite a challenge...
This being said I don't know the word for it but I observed it may times indeed.
[QUOTE=Arthur66]Hi Rubio Tonto,
You never heard it before because I kind of invented it.
Some ladies, often after having kids, have a tendency to balloon. Their vagina, after some time of healthy and vigorous sex, and possibly a couple of orgasms, loose its muscular tone, and relax.
I would be interested to know if somebody knows the 'right' word for this phenomena.
Kind regards,
Arthur[/QUOTE]Arthur, this is actually the normal physiological response of a woman who is sexually aroused. Her vagina will dilate.
After a kid or two things get a little stretched down there & so it is more _obvious_.
If a chick is _REALLY_ tight it means a) she has not had kids & b) not that turned on. (Even women who have had kids can be tight if they are not in the mood)
Chicks who have'nt had kids but ARE turned on is the holy grail. ;)
If a chick is loose & wet you should consider it a compliment, shes diggin it!
AV
AV suggests that Xman has used Divino as a new nom de plume to comment on AV’s mis-representation of facts involving a killing in an airport recently. AV is wrong as X man has no relationship to Divino. My apologies to X man for the time taken to correct AV’s assertion.
It is immaterial who wrote that AV had misrepresented the facts as that does not alter the issue involved. I feel an apology to readers, rather than accusing X man, may have been more appropriate.
[QUOTE=D Cups]This may be the best April Fool's joke ever played on me, G. I was actually depressed when I read your bogus article. YOU @$#%&^*@!!!!
I had a GREAT time there last month, doinking nine beauties, all C and D cuppers, in a five day period, including four in my first day in Malate (morning, noon and night).[/QUOTE]
Pleased to be of service, D :D. I was a bit surprised that it wasn't quickly sussed out by a Tagalog speaking member as I gave the protagonists silly names as in:
Abrilla Tanga (Abril Tanga) = April Fool
Binibrocha = pussy licking
Pakshet = fuckshit - a common Tagalog imprecation
Alfredo Lim = the silly name of the real mayor of Manila and the scourge of mongers.
It is the 10th anniversary of LA Cafe in August. Wonder if they will throw a party?
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Scared the hell out of me. Spent an entire eight nights (and mornings) there.
By the way, to protect the innocent (me) I have changed my name - still same great repoting though.
[QUOTE=D Cups]This may be the best April Fool's joke ever played on me, G. I was actually depressed when I read your bogus article. YOU @$#%&^*@!!!!
I had a GREAT time there last month, doinking nine beauties, all C and D cuppers, in a five day period, including four in my first day in Malate (morning, noon and night).[/QUOTE]
A few questions to guy's who have gone to Philippines for work.
If the stay is less than 90 day's do i need a visa ? What happends if my stay is extended after the 90 days ?
I will have a work cell phone on location but i want a personal one. Where do i get a cell phone in Manila (name , address and website would be nice). What are the charges for the cell phone , air time and charges to call localy and to canada ?
Food and entertainement :
On average how much can 3 descent meals cost in a city like Manila ? What are the good local restaurants and the best places to visit ?
Where would a local girl like to go out ?
Heya guys need a little advice here. I got a girl that I have known for a while that wants me to come see her. I plan on going to visit her in june but she will be working during the day and will be free at night. Since I will be alone during the day I was thinking I might find some company to entertain myself. The problem is that while she lives in Metro Manila she is in a city called Marikina City. I have not heard of this city mentioned on the forums before and would be interested in finding out if there is any info on the area or some place close by I might be able to hook up some afternoon delight. Thanks in advance guys. - DD
[QUOTE=John Jr]A few questions to guy's who have gone to Philippines for work.
If the stay is less than 90 day's do i need a visa ? What happends if my stay is extended after the 90 days ?
I will have a work cell phone on location but i want a personal one. Where do i get a cell phone in Manila (name , address and website would be nice). What are the charges for the cell phone , air time and charges to call localy and to canada ?
Food and entertainement :
On average how much can 3 descent meals cost in a city like Manila ? What are the good local restaurants and the best places to visit ?
Where would a local girl like to go out ?[/QUOTE]
I can only answer a few of those Qs: You can buy cellphones everywhere! I think there are more phone shops than people in Manila. Cheapest new one is about php 1700, and there are places in Harrison Plaza that sell used ones cheaper. They are almost all prepaid, with 3 main providers. You get a "load" for any amount you want. Hard to tell you prices because they have a few different plans. I would guess that international calls are expensive though. The loads usually include a bunch of free text messages though.
Meals run from 100 ($2) (fast food) to 3/4/5/6/00 typically, but of course the sky's the limit. Problem is quality, not price IMHO. I am always disappointed but have not hit the Japanese and Korean restos yet.
Local girls are happy in local restaurants. The Chowking chain is popular.
I'm no expert - I just do takeouts from G-Point and rarely invite them to dine.
[QUOTE=Deep Diver]Heya guys need a little advice here. I got a girl that I have known for a while that wants me to come see her. I plan on going to visit her in june but she will be working during the day and will be free at night. Since I will be alone during the day I was thinking I might find some company to entertain myself. The problem is that while she lives in Metro Manila she is in a city called Marikina City. I have not heard of this city mentioned on the forums before and would be interested in finding out if there is any info on the area or some place close by I might be able to hook up some afternoon delight. Thanks in advance guys. - DD[/QUOTE]
Marikina City is on the outskirts of Metro Manila. Not hard to get there but it takes a while from Makati or Ermita. About php 300 by taxi or 30 by light rail (last station on LRT2), which can actually be faster and more comfortable. Marikina is probably the cleanest and best run city in the area because the mayors (husband and wife in turn) are great - they adopted Singapore as a sister city and went nuts cleaning up the streets. I doubt if you can hook up anything on the side there, but it's not too far from Quezon City IIRC.
[QUOTE=Lenience]Local girls are happy in local restaurants. The Chowking chain is popular.[/QUOTE]Gag! Please, at least take them to Gerry's Grill, for your own sake if not for theirs!
[QUOTE=Lenience]Marikina City is on the outskirts of Metro Manila. Not hard to get there but it takes a while from Makati or Ermita. About php 300 by taxi or 30 by light rail (last station on LRT2), which can actually be faster and more comfortable. Marikina is probably the cleanest and best run city in the area because the mayors (husband and wife in turn) are great - they adopted Singapore as a sister city and went nuts cleaning up the streets. I doubt if you can hook up anything on the side there, but it's not too far from Quezon City IIRC.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the Info matie how far from Quezon is it and is there any pointers for a place to go during the day as I will be occupied at night.
[QUOTE=Lenience]I can only answer a few of those Qs: You can buy cellphones everywhere! I think there are more phone shops than people in Manila. Cheapest new one is about php 1700, and there are places in Harrison Plaza that sell used ones cheaper. They are almost all prepaid, with 3 main providers. You get a "load" for any amount you want. Hard to tell you prices because they have a few different plans. I would guess that international calls are expensive though. The loads usually include a bunch of free text messages though.[/QUOTE]
International calls are usually 15 pesos per minute on prepaid plans. Definitely not cheap. If you're going to be calling frequently enough and you will have internet access, you might be better using Skype or some other VOIP provider that allows you to have a Canadian phone number that rings at your laptop. Add a USB-compatible handset to that and you're in business.
[QUOTE=Deep Diver]Thanks for the Info matie how far from Quezon is it and is there any pointers for a place to go during the day as I will be occupied at night.[/QUOTE]
If you happen to get a free night DD, you might like to check out the large open air bars that are on the right hand side of Tuazon as you approach from the large Sto Lucia Shopping Mall. A friend told me that there are girls available here but I have not tried them myself. Marakina is a nice enough place (famous for its shoes) but not much to do during the day although you might like to try a spot of mall hunting at the aforementioned Santa Lucia Mall
Marikina is rather nice and clean on a Philippine level. As stated earlier from one of our friends here the Mayor has really clean the city up in regards to trash pick up. Cleaner streets, and greener inviroment. Having said that don't have the idea that your walking into Singapore. Because the reality is its still dirty. But not like walking down streets of Angeles thats for sure.
Now, I had a gf that lived here several years ago and frequent the area often. Riverbanks Mall is similar to buying cheap items and knock off brand names. I have scored several times with sales girls working here but If your looking for fun then Marikina is not the idea place for you. I would say if your looking to live in Philippines near Manila and layback and enjoy peace of mind then Marikina is good place to consider.
Next visit is in two weeks time. Already scheduled a new one for the first night. Nice fun lady who I met in a clean wholesome massage place. Anyways she; s obviously familiar with the male body so that shouldnt be a prob. Second night will be a lady I nearly scored with in my car around Global city but too much traffic and no time. So we will complete the unfinished business. But the best is the third night. Gal from Pampanga who happily takes the bus for 4 hours to be with me. Booked a room (as I don't want her in my condo) and have bought long black boots and long gloves that go up the arm for her. She loves me taking videos of her so the long boot long glove look with a pair of see thru panties should be good to kick things off. She will of course also bring the nurse uniform she had made with white stockings and garter belt. Ah the joy of anticipation. Wonder who I will do on the morning before flight back.
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]If you happen to get a free night DD, you might like to check out the large open air bars that are on the right hand side of Tuazon as you approach from the large Sto Lucia Shopping Mall. A friend told me that there are girls available here but I have not tried them myself. Marakina is a nice enough place (famous for its shoes) but not much to do during the day although you might like to try a spot of mall hunting at the aforementioned Santa Lucia Mall[/QUOTE]
thanks mate I will let you know how the trip goes. I have a GF there that is interested in getting in the family way. We have been seeing eachother for a while and she doesnt want to leave the PI due to family commitments and connections. In the entire time I have known her shes never asked me for a dime. Hell she has even paid for dinner and the hotel room from time to time but the I sometimes get the feeling she only wants me for my dick and my seed. ( is that such a bad thing? lol )
[QUOTE=Betong]Gag! Please, at least take them to Gerry's Grill, for your own sake if not for theirs![/QUOTE]
I never saw a Gerry's Grill. My philosophy is that there is always a Chowking between the pickup point and the hotel, and it's fast and cheap, like most of the girls (and me).
[QUOTE=Denom]Plus after having kids their belly becomes in terrible shape. Not all, if they don't scratch while pregnant, but that's the case of most of the hookers you'll find in LA Cafe or Quezon Avenue because they are mostly uneducated. Most of them have kids, which is why they get in the trade in the first place, and they do tend to have kids at a very young age. Finding a P4P girl old enough to enjoy sex but not yet "damaged" is quite a challenge...
This being said I don't know the word for it but I observed it may times indeed.[/QUOTE]
General Izations, I presume? I've had (as recently as tonite) women with several kids who are tight aND HOT. For me, too tight isn;t necessarily a good thing becuz it makes me cum too fast. I seek the perfect fit; for me it is the holy grail, not someone who is a perfect 10 (and a starfish more often than not).
[QUOTE=Deep Diver]thanks mate I will let you know how the trip goes. I have a GF there that is interested in getting in the family way. We have been seeing eachother for a while and she doesnt want to leave the PI due to family commitments and connections. In the entire time I have known her shes never asked me for a dime. Hell she has even paid for dinner and the hotel room from time to time but the I sometimes get the feeling she only wants me for my dick and my seed. ( is that such a bad thing? lol )[/QUOTE]
Sounds like you have a rare gem there DD - but I guess that you know that a Filipina quite often wants to get 'knocked up' in order to try to capture her man. This ruse does not work very well with Filipino men (who often do a quick one at the first sign of trouble) but is often effective with softer hearted foreigners. But if you can see things from her POV, this is all fairly understandable. But I would advise caution unless you are sure that she is definitely the one for you.
But I think that you know all this and I hope that you have great trip.
[QUOTE=Lenience]I never saw a Gerry's Grill. My philosophy is that there is always a Chowking between the pickup point and the hotel, and it's fast and cheap.[/QUOTE]
Too right mate, and buy a girl one of their super-duper halo-halo's and she will be yours forever (or at least until the next morning :D).
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]She loves me taking videos of her so the long boot long glove look with a pair of see thru panties should be good to kick things off. She will of course also bring the nurse uniform she had made with white stockings and garter belt. Ah the joy of anticipation. Wonder who I will do on the morning before flight back.[/QUOTE]
LOL - you kinky beast, you - there goes a man after my own heart:D. Just wish that you would share some of your photos/vid stills as I imagine they would be most interesting;).
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Sounds like you have a rare gem there DD - but I guess that you know that a Filipina quite often wants to get 'knocked up' in order to try to capture her man. This ruse does not work very well with Filipino men (who often do a quick one at the first sign of trouble) but is often effective with softer hearted foreigners. But if you can see things from her POV, this is all fairly understandable. But I would advise caution unless you are sure that she is definitely the one for you.
But I think that you know all this and I hope that you have great trip.
[/QUOTE]
I do have a rare one matie but I do know what your saying about capturing a man I was married twice before and the first one was a peruvian who, while I was young dumb and full of cum, knocked her up. The second one was an older filipina whos sisters and cousins and nieces played that exact game with a few guys. But the thing is with this one I have asked her many times to come to the states with me and she has refused. so its either I come there and stay or just come there and visit till her mother dies and then she comes to the states.
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]LOL. You kinky beast, you. There goes a man after my own heart: D. Just wish that you would share some of your photos/vid stills as I imagine they would be most interesting.[/QUOTE]Send me your email add by pm. Maybe I can find some pics of my uniform clad hottie that will get you salivating.
[QUOTE=Deep Diver] But the thing is with this one I have asked her many times to come to the states with me and she has refused. so its either I come there and stay or just come there and visit till her mother dies and then she comes to the states.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like a real, old fashioned case of 'utang loob' or filial responsibility and devotion. Strikes me that a woman who is such a good and devoted daughter, would also make a very good and devoted wife. I think that you might just be third time lucky:).
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Send me your email add by pm. Maybe I can find some pics of my uniform clad hottie that will get you salivating.[/QUOTE]
Will do - sounds good to me - can do a few swopsies if you like;).
[QUOTE=Deep Diver]But the thing is with this one I have asked her many times to come to the states with me and she has refused. so its either I come there and stay or just come there and visit till her mother dies and then she comes to the states.[/QUOTE]Consider that she may already be married to a Filipino - not to say she is involved with this person anymore in any way, but there's no divorce, so the CENOMAR issue could get in the way, and she might know it. The only way out of marriage for a Filipina is annulment (very difficult to get) or presumed/actual death of the spouse...
[QUOTE=cyclops]Consider that she may already be married to a Filipino - not to say she is involved with this person anymore in any way, but there's no divorce, so the CENOMAR issue could get in the way, and she might know it. The only way out of marriage for a Filipina is annulment (very difficult to get) or presumed/actual death of the spouse...[/QUOTE]
Yep thanks for that info but we had already been down that road and I know shes not married and has never been. She is more worried about her mother being alone and having no one else to take care of her. She has never asked me for money or asked for my help with anything. As a matter of fact her mother while I was there went to hospital and when I offered to help with the bills she turned me down flat. Anyway I can tell shes not a gold digger so thats for sure a plus. I know shes not and has never been married from her family & friends along with other people we know in common. I guess this thread has taken a side track because as good as my girl is I am like all of you a monger and was looking for a little tang on the side while shes not around to deal with it.
[QUOTE=Deep Diver].. She is more worried about her mother being alone and having no one else to take care of her.[/QUOTE] A very real concern. its a harsh place unless you are wealthy. Leaving your elderly mother behind here to fend for herself is unthinkable. She sounds like a decent person.
AV
[QUOTE=Deep Diver]Yep thanks for that info but we had already been down that road and I know shes not married and has never been. She is more worried about her mother being alone and having no one else to take care of her. She has never asked me for money or asked for my help with anything. As a matter of fact her mother while I was there went to hospital and when I offered to help with the bills she turned me down flat. Anyway I can tell shes not a gold digger so thats for sure a plus. I know shes not and has never been married from her family & friends along with other people we know in common. I guess this thread has taken a side track because as good as my girl is I am like all of you a monger and was looking for a little tang on the side while shes not around to deal with it.[/QUOTE]
Hey Deep Diver, I think most will agree that reading about a Pinay that is not a gold digger and dosent think of you as an ATM makes a refreshing change and me for 1 I like to hear about a good news story about getting together with a Filipina thats wort spending a lot of time with maybe even marry.
Good luck
Wizard
[QUOTE=Wizard561]I like to hear about a good news story about getting together with a Filipina thats wort spending a lot of time with maybe even marry.[/QUOTE]Yep, and the rest of us can just dream! If she is as good a you say she is, and I am sure she is, you are one lucky man!
Have fun
WGS
Thanks guys for all your kind words. She is great a little bit raggy at times but great. Now back to my original quest for a little tang during the day when shes not around any suggestions ?
-DD
The girl I was going to travel with this trip decided she couldn't leave her work for nine or ten days. I was already apprehensive cuz she wanted to meet me at the airport and be with me the entire time I am to be in Phils. That's a big NOT. That translates into control attempts and pissing matches.
Woe is me. I might have to find a suitable beach partner at Firehouse, LA Cafe or that forbidden ***** town AC. To me its a shithole, but it looks like its AC for a couple of days and then to the beach. Woe is me.
Now this looks like a much better trip than I had planned on. Woe is me.
[QUOTE=Dashing Don]I thought I would ask the membership what they thought about it. I sit here in San Francisco as I write this. Lot of fags here.
[/QUOTE]You sound like you really want to try it. But be careful with the fags Jack. Not good for your health.
Firehouse in Edsa complex was a lot of fun.
We did barfine a girl who was very wild on the dancefloor, but unfortunately, she was a little bit shy in the bedroom due to some stretch marks on her belly. I can't remember her name, but she is really cute and she never goes on stage, she only spends time with clothes at the bar.
If someone goes to Firehouse, can he tell me how is Miss Shane in bed, a very funny girl with pigtails who really seems to enjoy her job as she is always smiling.
Burgos was nice as expected, especially Bottoms and Flamingos, but we did not fell like barfining anyone as it was still too soon in the evening.
Havana Cafe in Greenbelt has its share of girls, but the dancefloor is too small, the terrace is always full, so it is not so easy to talk discretly to girls.
Most of them ask around 3 or 4000 peso, but i guess that this amount can be bargained.
La Cafe : Instead of being too cautious about the Pinoy guys waiting outside the bar, one should be more cautious about the drunken Aussies patronizing the bar.
Last sunday, I could meet a girl there, fair skin, spitting image of Cris Taliana, waitress in a korean restaurant, but she did not allow any pics.
The selection at La Cafe seems to be always better than in all Angeles city.
Robinson's mall : I noticed once two girls who gave me the eye near Starbucks, they seemed cute enough so I went in their direction. Suddenly, i realize that they have never been to a dentist or that they were drug addicted, it was scary. Then, i never noticed anything else on my other visits.
Ascend at the Fort : nice nightclub, very young crowd and I haven't noticed any freelancers, only some R&b afficionados. Not worth going there to flirt unless you are 20.
[QUOTE=Lenience]I never saw a Gerry's Grill. My philosophy is that there is always a Chowking between the pickup point and the hotel, and it's fast and cheap, like most of the girls (and me).[/QUOTE]
Well said Lenience, second that emotion. SB
Ok bros I would appreciate some help and info.
I will be arriving in in Manila in the morning with a flight out to Cebu in the afternoon. I don't want to stay in the airport for 4to 5 hours.
I would like to get a short term hotel room close to the airport to shower and relax before I fly to Cebu. Any clean comfortable short hotel room avaiaalbe close to the airport?
Info greatly appreciated
[QUOTE=Bay Area Puma]Ok bros I would appreciate some help and info.
I will be arriving in in Manila in the morning with a flight out to Cebu in the afternoon. I don't want to stay in the airport for 4to 5 hours.
I would like to get a short term hotel room close to the airport to shower and relax before I fly to Cebu. Any clean comfortable short hotel room avaiaalbe close to the airport?
Info greatly appreciated[/QUOTE]I suggest have taxi driver take you to Sogo in Pasay City. Its really not far from airport. When you get there they offer in room massage. Always some ready girls. Conclude quick negotiation. And best way to spend a few hours.
[QUOTE=Bay Area Puma]Ok bros I would appreciate some help and info.
I will be arriving in in Manila in the morning with a flight out to Cebu in the afternoon. I don't want to stay in the airport for 4to 5 hours.
I would like to get a short term hotel room close to the airport to shower and relax before I fly to Cebu. Any clean comfortable short hotel room avaiaalbe close to the airport?
Info greatly appreciated[/QUOTE]
OK, that is your schedule. Planes are often late, so by the time you go through immigration, etc., the wait will not be so long. Plus you have to find your way from Intern'l to domestic airport. You don't say what airline you are flying, but if PAL, then intern'l and domestic are housed in same bldg. If you fly another carrier, you will use plenty of time going from terminal to terminal. When you get to Cebu Pacific or PAL terminal ticket counter, and if you are still early, just ask them to book you on the next flight. A lot of times flights are not full and they will accommodate you. But again, even though it looks like a 4-5 hour wait on paper, it may be only 2 hours, depending on what airlines you are on.
[QUOTE=Bay Area Puma]Ok bros I would appreciate some help and info.
I will be arriving in in Manila in the morning with a flight out to Cebu in the afternoon. I don't want to stay in the airport for 4to 5 hours.
I would like to get a short term hotel room close to the airport to shower and relax before I fly to Cebu. Any clean comfortable short hotel room avaiaalbe close to the airport?
Info greatly appreciated[/QUOTE]
I agree with Mr. Hawaii... besides, it's too risky to go out of the airport then go back with unpredictable Manila traffic. You might end up missing your flight.
[QUOTE=Mr Hawaii]If you fly another carrier, you will use plenty of time going from terminal to terminal.[/QUOTE]Not only PAL. Cebu Pacific also uses the Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal 3 for both domestic and international flights
Well you stated you have 5 hours to kill. As stated you not want to miss your next flight. My suggestion is Air Force 1 down the road. Personally I have never gone there but the reviews I have heard on them is good. Its only about 10 15 min from the airport and will take up atleast 1 to 2 hours of your time. I am sure there is other places close by the airport that will suit you as well. At least all is provided ar air force one. The girl, drinks, room and well. Duh.
Good luck
[QUOTE=Bay Area Puma]Ok bros I would appreciate some help and info.
I will be arriving in in Manila in the morning with a flight out to Cebu in the afternoon. I don't want to stay in the airport for 4to 5 hours.
I would like to get a short term hotel room close to the airport to shower and relax before I fly to Cebu. Any clean comfortable short hotel room avaiaalbe close to the airport?
Info greatly appreciated[/QUOTE]You could get a taxi to Airforce1 in pasay. Pick a girl, pay, fuck, shower, taxi back to airport. Only problem is you are cutting it very fine on time.
AV
Fellow Mongers
I will post this in a few threads as not quite where to post this – apologies if you read it more than once
A quick note to say Nikki (Miss N) from the UAE threads is now in the Philippines and is looking for some fun guys.
Her reputation is well known in the UAE where she gave the best ever BBBJ and ‘full menu’ shagging including Greek, sex toys, bisexual (she even picked the girl a couple times for me), loves a good threesome...some guys that took her LT could only manage ST as she shagged them to exhaustion. There many guys here in the UAE asking if/when she will return so if you see her please ask her....;)
The nearest that you could say she resembles sexually (but not in her figure) is Ana. She has the same desire to enjoy shagging. She met me long time back and had never done a threesome but as always Professor WR did his best with lovely results :D
A few pictures are in the Photo Gallery in this forum but much more can be found from 2007 etc in the UAE thread where there a number of FRs on her abilities in the bedroom and everywhere else. I have been given a HJ by this lady in club in the UAE, she has been banned from one in Abu Dhabi as her mini skirt was too mini :D and I fondly remember being in Wild West and Flamingo with her while she chose a girl for a night of pussy licking while I watched and later joined in...
She is now in the provinces and will come to you as long as the bus fare is paid which is not that much (1000 pesos return). Also she will ask for a load so she can call you and chat.
One guy is seeing her soon as he contacted me to ask if she was around in the Philippines as he is visiting the country this weekend and if she was ‘working’. Others will be seeing her sometime next month – the same guy who flew to the UAE a while back to spend his birthday with her (she was his present so to speak) and is now based in Asia so easier to get to Manila.
She has not been knocking off pinoys etc, she does not like them, she has been sorting some bad karma in her family (including the death of 2 family members last year which somewhat rattled her badly). But now she is OK and called me ask if I had ‘friends’. She does not know of ISG and I will not post face pictures here but for those who PM and contact her I have some – well I have a serious large GB external drive full of N pictures...
If you would like to see her and experience her ‘menu’ then PM me please – she is not a young girls she is 29, slim not hanging rack like Ana, always in good shape. Pictures can tell you. But if fancy some variety with a guaranteed naughty edge then she is fun to be with.
Keep hard and horny
All right fellow mongers....any MP's/pole dancing bars around Garden Heights/St. Luke's area worth mentioning?
[QUOTE=Amavida]You could get a taxi to Airforce1 in pasay. Pick a girl, pay, fuck, shower, taxi back to airport. Only problem is you are cutting it very fine on time.
AV[/QUOTE]This situation calls for AF1. It is very close to the airport. The line up is absolutely spectacular there. They have showers in the room. The door men have a locking room to store your luggage. A quick massage after a long flight. A good hard fuck to clear the cobwebs from your head. You will have the biggest smile on your face all the while you are on the plane. Not long after you land you will be balls deep in some brown island pussy. Damb I envy you!
Af1 is going to set you back $120 ish. (if you go business or first class) and after a long flight (assumption) you'd be better off paying the fee to catch tomorrows flight. And getting laid (when you have more energy and time) properly. If it rains while you are getting your knob polished. And the roads flood (which they do) then you won't make your flight anyway.
That said, I have always had positive experiences at AF1 but only because I have taken the time to enjoy it.
[QUOTE=Devils 1]This situation calls for AF1. It is very close to the airport. The line up is absolutely spectacular there. They have showers in the room. The door men have a locking room to store your luggage. A quick massage after a long flight. A good hard fuck to clear the cobwebs from your head. You will have the biggest smile on your face all the while you are on the plane. Not long after you land you will be balls deep in some brown island pussy. Damb I envy you![/QUOTE]
Arrived in Manila lasst Wednesday. And should preface this report by stating I'm nearing my mid 50s and starting to slow down. LOL.
Anyways on previous visit, I had ended my visit with a nice wholesome massage, which had ended in a few kisses. The young lady (20) and I have been exchanging sms and for this visit had kindly taken the day off work to meet me.
Now as the massage room was dark I really wasnt sure who I was meeting. Waiting for her near a mall and there a lovely young thing, in nice high heels, dress with good curves and happy smile. Knew it was going to be my day.
We had a drink then left in direction of Sogo.
As we are driving a car in front makes emergency stop. I brake and change lanes. At which point an MMDA idiot stops my car and accuses me of swerving. Correct sir, I swerved to avoid being killed. " Sir its against the law to swerve". Meaningless exchange followed, and he got p200 to go away.
Got to room and young lady was super tasty. Perfectly tasty puss. Did all the normal things. Dropped her off and went to Burgos for drinks till late. She was happy with the chocolates and phone card I got her.
Next day, did some work, set up some meets and was supposed to meet a dia lady at 2pm. I waited till 3pm still no show so go home for a much needed sleep. At 3. 30. She sends sms. Shes so sorry, please will I forgive her, she will do ANYTHING if I forgive her. Hmm. Ok, let me think about that.
Meanwhile, headed to Makati ave, met another dia lady. Went for drinks in sports bar on Kalayaan, then to the car. So much traffic, so can't be bothered to go to Sogo. Took her to my condo till midnight, then took her to her bus stop. She still faced a 90 minute ride home!
Next day had breakfast, then met a gal from Marikina. Took her 90 minutes to get to Makati. She was with sister, gave sister P100 and she left. Took the gal to my place, where we started on the sofa, then moved the bedroom. Got a nice little morning blow then had to send her away as I had to go to work. She gave me the " I have no money and need money for xyz etc bit. Gave her some and thought that was the end of her. No. I got hundreds of sms thereafter from her begging for money etc. Hate that.
Meanwhile, did my work and met MS Pampanga. This is the one who will gladly dress as nurse, schoolgirl, whatever I request. She came down from Pampanga to meet me, and I put her up in a hotel. Normal good fun but spoilt a bit by period starting. However her in a pair of thigh high black boots was a great sight!
We were together for about 16 hours then put her on bus back to Pampanga.
Meanwhile my afternoon plans were to meet Ms I will do anything". She had told me she was ugly but I met a nice slim and happy lady. Not perfect but doable. Went to Sogo and she enjoyed and said first sex for her for 18 months. Dropped her off and had a long nights drinking in Burgos.
Next day met Ms I will do Anything again. This time I had lots more energy and can remember her shouting "ITS SO GOOD" with her legs wide open.
From Sogo went to the massage place to give Ms Massage some more chocolates and a goodbye kiss. Well I had time for a massage and somewher we got kissing. This is in a place with curtain so couldn't do too much. But remember she gave my dick a sweet long slow and succulent good bye kiss. Really nice girl.
Then to airport and flight home. Exhausted as always.
When will I learn to pace myself.
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I never did get any replies to my request last week looking for "action" in QC. So...I just started my own.
Stayed at the Garden Heights Condos....clean, comfortable room that won't set you back 5000 pesos! Cost me 2000 a night. 19th floor, good view. It's not 5 star, but I can't see spending more than I have to.
Have to negotiate your rate though...
In house massage service...no extras offered.
Went to Greenhills mall....100 peso taxi ride from the hotel...large mall,
usual coffee shops and spent some time at Starbucks...was approached by no less then 5 gals within an hour, exchanged numbers, etc.
I was not in the mood at the time so I "passed" on the offers.
Returned the next day and hooked up with a different gal. Spent some time with her, probably 6 hours total, and I did NOT spend any money on her shopping!!
Not a cent. Bought some coffee and lunch for us, took in a movie and ended up back at the hotel and didn't cost me a cent for her! I'm thinking, ok...this is going to come back and bite me in the ass!
Two days later, back at the mall and hook up with a different gal after a few hours of hunting....lunch, walking around, chatting, etc....went back to my place and got a BBBJ, no charge and she didn't ask for any money.
The two I hooked up with are not bad looking, rather attractive, but no technique in the sex department.
If a guy has half a brain, decent personality and presents himself nicely, he will score. You dress like a slob with your gut hanging over your belt, you ain't got nothing coming! You'll have to pay!
Friends,
I've also had the pleasure of some great sessions with Miss N (go read the Abu Dhabi thread). If you are in Manila/Makati etc then I recommend you see her. Treat her kindly and with respect and you will be rewarded with a great and unforgettable time. She deserves a break and you will not regret it.
Have fun
WM
(also posted in other threads like WR)
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Fellow Mongers
I will post this in a few threads as not quite where to post this – apologies if you read it more than once
A quick note to say Nikki (Miss N) from the UAE threads is now in the Philippines and is looking for some fun guys.
Her reputation is well known in the UAE where she gave the best ever BBBJ and ‘full menu’ shagging including Greek, sex toys, bisexual (she even picked the girl a couple times for me), loves a good threesome...some guys that took her LT could only manage ST as she shagged them to exhaustion. There many guys here in the UAE asking if/when she will return so if you see her please ask her....;)
The nearest that you could say she resembles sexually (but not in her figure) is Ana. She has the same desire to enjoy shagging. She met me long time back and had never done a threesome but as always Professor WR did his best with lovely results :D
A few pictures are in the Photo Gallery in this forum but much more can be found from 2007 etc in the UAE thread where there a number of FRs on her abilities in the bedroom and everywhere else. I have been given a HJ by this lady in club in the UAE, she has been banned from one in Abu Dhabi as her mini skirt was too mini :D and I fondly remember being in Wild West and Flamingo with her while she chose a girl for a night of pussy licking while I watched and later joined in...
She is now in the provinces and will come to you as long as the bus fare is paid which is not that much (1000 pesos return). Also she will ask for a load so she can call you and chat.
One guy is seeing her soon as he contacted me to ask if she was around in the Philippines as he is visiting the country this weekend and if she was ‘working’. Others will be seeing her sometime next month – the same guy who flew to the UAE a while back to spend his birthday with her (she was his present so to speak) and is now based in Asia so easier to get to Manila.
She has not been knocking off pinoys etc, she does not like them, she has been sorting some bad karma in her family (including the death of 2 family members last year which somewhat rattled her badly). But now she is OK and called me ask if I had ‘friends’. She does not know of ISG and I will not post face pictures here but for those who PM and contact her I have some – well I have a serious large GB external drive full of N pictures...
If you would like to see her and experience her ‘menu’ then PM me please – she is not a young girls she is 29, slim not hanging rack like Ana, always in good shape. Pictures can tell you. But if fancy some variety with a guaranteed naughty edge then she is fun to be with.
Keep hard and horny[/QUOTE]
Saw an ad on Craiglists for Fusion. The best erotic experience in Manila " quote. Stated they are at Bayview Intl tower, roxas Blvd in Paranaque City. Anyone tried this place.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Saw an ad on Craiglists for Fusion. The best erotic experience in Manila " quote. Stated they are at Bayview Intl tower, roxas Blvd in Paranaque City. Anyone tried this place.[/QUOTE]According to the locals on manilatonight.com, Fusion is a lot of new-agey hype and no sextras.
Which thread on here can I find Boracay?
And available bars, women, etc?
I've looked and can't find any reference to it.
Fusion is OK for massage, but give HJ only.
Been there once.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Saw an ad on Craiglists for Fusion. The best erotic experience in Manila " quote. Stated they are at Bayview Intl tower, roxas Blvd in Paranaque City. Anyone tried this place.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kycuriosity]Which thread on here can I find Boracay?
And available bars, women, etc?
I've looked and can't find any reference to it.[/QUOTE]There were alot of girls at Cocomangas that was looking.
[url]http://www.cocomangas.com/[/url]
The other bars around it, Gilley's Bar and Grille and Club Paraw had very
few, but higher class girls.
[QUOTE=Kycuriosity]Which thread on here can I find Boracay?
And available bars, women, etc?
I've looked and can't find any reference to it.[/QUOTE]
That is because there is very little going on there in the way of mongering. Most guys BYOB. Yeah this being the phils you can hook up anywhere, but Boracay is usually where you find more western, Korean and Japanese toutrists, along with a few well to do Phils.
If you want to get off with a few pros check into cocomangas shooters bar.
Loud, lots of noise, lots of insanity and a few freelancers working the crowd.
I was dancing with my wife, when she went to the ladies room the "pros" came by with "the look" or a few inviting words. Nothing I would pay for unless desparate.
Lots of resturaunts and hotels catering to foreigners, check the internet for bargains, but stay in Manila, Angles or come to Cebu for more variety.
Spamhog
ANybody ever take the bus from Manila to Subic? where is the bus station in Manila, anything in Makati?
Thanks
Spamhog
Mostly you catch the bus from manila to Olongopo, then go to Subic.
I use both Victory Liner and Five Star.
Both have trminals in Pasay on the EDSA.
Just ask the taxi to take you there.
As I recall, the fare is about 130 pesos, and it takes about 5 hours.
Good journey to you.
Gangles
[QUOTE=Gangles]Mostly you catch the bus from manila to Olongopo, then go to Subic.
I use both Victory Liner and Five Star.
Both have trminals in Pasay on the EDSA.
Just ask the taxi to take you there.
As I recall, the fare is about 130 pesos, and it takes about 5 hours.
Good journey to you.
Gangles[/QUOTE]
Okay thanx
Spamhog
[QUOTE=Kycuriosity]Which thread on here can I find Boracay? And available bars, women, etc? I've looked and can't find any reference to it.[/QUOTE]
Spam Hog and Sunchaser have given you good information on the Boracay scene. If you follow SC‘s link to Cocomangas, check out the “shooters” scores by country. It ought to tell you something when the Koreans’ score is more than three times as much as any other visiting country. In other words, lots of heavy drinking Koreans there. Korean men are heavy drinkers everywhere they go; it allows them to say things to each other that they’d never say when sober because they’d be rude by their cultural standards. Or in this case, maybe they’ve heard about their sexual prowess reputation in the Phils and figure that getting drunk first will help them last more than three minutes.
If you want to weigh other experiences, both those who bring their own and others who sample the pros, use the search tool on the blue toolbar. Set the key word search to “Boracay,” but do not search for a specific username. Set it to show reports rather than threads, set the time parameters from “a year ago” to “newer,” from most recent post in descending order, and, in the big box on the right side, make sure you search only in the Philippines thread, but allow subthreads. I did this and got 83 hits. Ignore the ones that offer only passing mention of Boracay; there are plenty of others that contain informative reports.
I have not been to Boracay, but here’s how I’d summarize what I’ve seen in posts on this forum and others. Numerous posts say it’s necessary to BYOG. Others say they have picked up very willing p4ps in one or another night club on Boracay. I’m inclined to believe the latter group, but I also assume they have a little more game than the pessimists – or maybe the pessimists are like Spam Hog and find the pros unattractive.
The pros here will generally be from Cebu, Manila, Angeles, or some other major mongering city, and since they’re in it as a business, and their travel overhead to Boracay is not cheap, you should expect to pay more than in other Phils destinations. Except maybe for the occasional late night pickup who’s been passed over by others and really needs a place to sleep.
I also recall reading that there are massage services there that offer extras, although your mileage may vary as to what services are available.
As to the BYOG strategy, make sure you have a truly willing and pleasant partner. I picked up a 20 year old at LA Café last August who told me she’d just gotten back from Boracay. She said she’d gone there with a Brit who promised to pay her something like 2000 PhP per day. But he wanted to go swimming, or snorkeling, or sailing during the day, and she didn’t, so stayed behind bored in the cabin or hotel room. It occurs to me she didn’t want to be seen in a bathing suit. She was petite, only about 4’10”, and when I met her she was wearing jeans and a smock. When I joined her in the shower, I was really surprised to find that her clothes had been concealing an oddly protruding little belly. She told me she’d gotten pregnant the prior Fall, miscarried, but never lost the bulge. Maybe. But I can’t rule out the possibility she was about four months preggers when I did her and when the Brit took her to Boracay. When I was in delicto with her, both mish and doggy, she kept trying to straighten out her legs and get my thighs outside hers. She faked noises as though this was supposedly especially pleasurable (definitely not for me), but I really think it was a ruse to make my penetration shallower. Obviously this doesn’t prove anything – I’ve been with other petite Pinays who were more straight-forward about wanting to limit the depth of penetration. Anyway, I didn’t want to dent the head of the fetus, so I obliged her about the penetration.
But either way, whether she had a bun in the oven, couldn’t swim, or was just a boring home body, she admitted to me she’d eventually pitched a bit** on the second day to get the guy to pay her way on an early flight back to Manila. Although she was only 20, she was a sexual mercenary. She pretty much told me so. The moral of the story: make sure you have an honest meeting of the minds with any woman you decide to take to Boracay or any other Philippine resort. I only hope the Brit found the nightclubs that other guys talk about and thoroughly exploited the opportunities there.
Skip
Name of a popular tagalog song the lyrics have to do with a girl who goes to Boracay,parties, goes wild and has sex, then heads home to be a 'good girl' again.
What limits your mongering in Boracay is the availability of the women and since there are accessibility problems, not much in the way of variety. Remember, it is not easy for the average girl to get there one usually has to take a plane, it is relatively prohibitively expensive (in Filipino terms) to travel there and to stay there very few "cheap" rooms available to average folks. Most of the Filipinia's you see either work there(Locals) or are well to do from a good family and not interested in a foreigner unless he is a movie star or some girl who is already with a foreigner.
It is a real status symbol to have gone to Boracay, it means you are wealthy and part of the Filipino "in' crowd. Girls will usually brag about the experience.
Now most of the "pros' I mentioned to have seen in my trips to BC were likely local girls. I have heard that a few of the neighboring islands organize a banca run and bring some of the locals girls ashore to make money during the busiest part of the tourist season and Cocomangas is one of the places they go, there are a few other adjacent bars (can't remember the name) where one can hang on the beach close enough to hear the music blaring from the band and dance without entering you can see a few people dancing on the beach.
But simply put, there is not much local talent that means not much choice.
As I said, the "pros" I saw were nothing special, a few had that beat out look that shabu heads get.
But I reiterate, this is the Phils and you never know when or where poon is going to drop into your lap. Yes, I have heard of guys bagging the waitresses or hotel clerks and who knows, one of those Manila "Mayaman" might get drunk enough and bold enough to try a foreigner. Of course one could also try for the flocks of Japanese or Korean cuties or even western back packer types that show up.
Skip gave some excellent advice about "test driving" a sleeping tour guide or companion that you want to take ANYWHERE not just Boracay.
When it comes down to it, Boracay is hit or miss, not like other areas where you would have to be a leper not to score due to the plethora of available women.
spamhog
Last time I researched, there is a ferry from Manila across the bay to the Bataan peninsula. Then you still have to bus a way to Subic. You avoid the temptations of AC altogether.
[url]http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=news3_april27_2009[/url]
I've never done this, but I know the Spamhogs love adventure.
X
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]ANybody ever take the bus from Manila to Subic? where is the bus station in Manila, anything in Makati?
Thanks
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
All, I'm wondering if anyone could recommend a short term apartment or condo in Manila, preferably near Malate/Ermita? I'll be staying there for about a week very soon and I just really dislike the hassle of checking my girl in at the desk and us being eyed up and down when passing through a lobby full of porters which seems to be the case at most hotels. Thanks in advance! GG
[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo]All, I'm wondering if anyone could recommend a short term apartment or condo in Manila, preferably near Malate/Ermita? I'll be staying there for about a week very soon and I just really dislike the hassle of checking my girl in at the desk and us being eyed up and down when passing through a lobby full of porters which seems to be the case at most hotels. Thanks in advance! GG[/QUOTE] I stayed at the Baywatch Tower for about eight days. I thought it was pretty good for the price. The security guys never gave me a hard time and always helped me flagged down a taxi for the girl. You can book online at their website or go to villarenters.com. I hope this information helps and have fun.
[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo]All, I'm wondering if anyone could recommend a short term apartment or condo in Manila, preferably near Malate/Ermita? I'll be staying there for about a week very soon and I just really dislike the hassle of checking my girl in at the desk and us being eyed up and down when passing through a lobby full of porters which seems to be the case at most hotels. Thanks in advance! GG[/QUOTE]
Check out the Makati tower suites, very reasonable
[url]www.asiatravel.com/philippines/primetower/index.html[/url]
Never stayed there but I will be next week.
Spamhog
Joh, SpamHog, thanks much. Will check 'em both out.
I just returned from my recent trip to the Philippines. Please see the first part in Angeles City section. I stayed at Executive Plaza Hotel in Ermita. The location is very good. It’s near Robinson Mall and La Café. 7-11 and BDO ATM is nearby. Taxi to EDSA is around 60-120 peso. No questions asked, no joiner fees, nada. At the same time accommodations are pretty basic. The hotel is good value but I suggest finding more spacious and modern one.
La Café is nearby with nightly live band. Staff is friendly and fun, food is fine and music is great on occasion but other than that the place is going downhill. There is a scarce choice of weird girls, aging beauties, unemployed and pissed fuckups. Eventually I picked up one girl just for the sport and she proved to be nothing special. There is also a ridiculous as if difference between the ground and the first floor girls. The ground ones ask 1,500 and the first ones ask 4,000. What a joke. There is a 100 entry fee to the first floor. I have not paid it. My advice is not plan to find your gem there, if you see no one just take a cab to EDSA.
EDSA is open 6-7 pm to 3-4 am. No cameras are allowed. Cotton Club is in poor shape. Firehouse is your best bet. Unfortunately the management does not allow girls to take black boots with them. In Firehouse I have found at least 20 percent of girls to be bar finable which is a lot in my view. Met two lovely girls there with 2,500 tips to each of them and was very pleased. Girls do monthly check ups at the clinic which is inside EDSA and also pass a check up and clean up after each client they see. So with EDSA over La Café at the cost of extra $30 you get a way better girl of proven age and health. Consider it to be your insurance policy. There are six mamasans at Firehouse and they all hit you for drinks. One mamasan told me that girls expect a tip of 500 pesos for 3 hours. At the same time it is up to them and they request 2,500 ST and 4,000 LT over a bar fine. Now, Firehouse does not split bar fines with girls. It charges them daily around 150 pesos for shoes, lingerie and cosmetics. Each girl gets a release voucher when she leaves.
Same as Bangkok over Pattaya and Manila over Angeles city the fun costs simply double and the double up is not worth it. One of the girls has told me that class “A” hookers can be seen at the disco Embassy club at the Fort (Bonifacio High Street) where the charge goes up to 10K. I wonder what I can get in Philippines for that price.
[QUOTE=Questner]Met two lovely girls there with 2, 500 tips to each of them and was very pleased. Girls do monthly check ups at the clinic which is inside EDSA and also pass a check up and clean up after each client they see. So with EDSA over La Café at the cost of extra $30 you get a way better girl of proven age and health. Consider it to be your insurance policy.[/QUOTE]sounds nice if the check are serious! Are those girls going "covered" or not?
Just checking what's the standard is in EDSA. In angeles I found that most girls consider BB an the norm and condom as an exception.
In LA Café most girls seems to insist on condom. (even though I imagine if you offer 1K pesos extra you can obtain BB but I didn't try it), so what's the standard at EDSA, always covered, covered but can uncover with a tip, or up to client (angeles way).
If the girls are check after each client, I guess management is suspicious about the girls following security protocols.
There are any number of traveler reports about this hotel on regular traveler sites and they are almost uniformly negative. Even hysterical.
Insect infestation. Microscopic rooms. Two snail like elevators. Bad service.
For some reason, they even complain about the location in a red light district, this hotels main redeeming feature.
Discalaimer: I have not stayed at this hotel.
[QUOTE=Dogs Body]There are any number of traveler reports about this hotel on regular traveler sites and they are almost uniformly negative. Even hysterical.
Insect infestation. Microscopic rooms. Two snail like elevators. Bad service.
For some reason, they even complain about the location in a red light district, this hotels main redeeming feature.
Discalaimer: I have not stayed at this hotel.[/QUOTE]
Wrong thread bruh go here...
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2505[/url]
[QUOTE=Questner]
La Café is nearby with nightly live band. Staff is friendly and fun, food is fine and music is great on occasion but other than that the place is going downhill. There is a scarce choice of weird girls, aging beauties, unemployed and pissed fuckups. Eventually I picked up one girl just for the sport and she proved to be nothing special. There is also a ridiculous as if difference between the ground and the first floor girls. The ground ones ask 1,500 and the first ones ask 4,000. What a joke. There is a 100 entry fee to the first floor. I have not paid it. My advice is not plan to find your gem there, if you see no one just take a cab to EDSA.
EDSA is open 6-7 pm to 3-4 am. No cameras are allowed. Cotton Club is in poor shape. Firehouse is your best bet. Unfortunately the management does not allow girls to take black boots with them. In Firehouse I have found at least 20 percent of girls to be bar finable which is a lot in my view. Met two lovely girls there with 2,500 tips to each of them and was very pleased. Girls do monthly check ups at the clinic which is inside EDSA and also pass a check up and clean up after each client they see. So with EDSA over La Café at the cost of extra $30 you get a way better girl of proven age and health. Consider it to be your insurance policy. There are six mamasans at Firehouse and they all hit you for drinks. One mamasan told me that girls expect a tip of 500 pesos for 3 hours. At the same time it is up to them and they request 2,500 ST and 4,000 LT over a bar fine. Now, Firehouse does not split bar fines with girls. It charges them daily around 150 pesos for shoes, lingerie and cosmetics. Each girl gets a release voucher when she leaves.
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Nice Report. Yeah the talent in LA is marginal at best but you can’t beat the prices I guess. I like Burgos and EDSA better though.
[QUOTE=Questner] So with EDSA over La Café at the cost of extra $30 you get a way better girl of proven age and health. [/QUOTE]
Could we get you to recheck your math? If you pay 1500 PhP for short time at LA, and at EDSA you pay the girl 2500 PhP, that's a difference of $20. So for the difference to be only $30, the barfine would have to be only 1000 PhP. I'm thinking most recent reports have set the barfine a little higher than that.
In terms of LA "going downhill," have you made other visits there in the past so that you have some basis for comparison? The place is dark, noisy, and smokey, often (but not always) crowded, and most would agree with you that it's necessary to get past some unattractive women to find a keeper. The food isn't particularly good, and, as some of the girls report, you can get sick if your drink has ice cubes in it, because they use tap water. The solution to that is to order only drinks that come in a bottle.
But I'd sooner believe that LA Cafe is simply in a perpetual state of nastiness rather than going downhill. I was last there in August 2008, and before that in April 2007. I didn't see much difference in the intervening 16 months. If anything, there were more women there in August 08 than 16 months earlier, with about the same percentage of undesirables.
I am inclined to say that reports of the demise of LA Cafe, which show up on the board from time to time, are overstated. Many frequent and long-standing patrons will tell you that the numbers and quality of available takeaways vary considerably from day to day and even over the span of an hour.
I'd welcome a report with conclusive evidence to the contrary.
Skip
Have had visits to Manila April 09, July 08, and June 07. Prices at LA Cafe, whether up or downstairs, are the same for me. I make the same offer to most every girl. She often asks for more, but quickly comes around or walks. The offer is p1500 ST and 2000 LT. Never more. Never misses. G-Point, not far away, same. Many girls dont even mention money. Never had one balk at 2000 + taxi the next day. I do go thru a list of particulars at the bar before taking her. Some girls cant/wont, and walk away. Some ask for more, one asked for 4000, came around to 2000, and ended up having breakfast with me. About 1/3 of girls wont go away the next day. Haven't been to the EDSA complex yet.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost]
I am inclined to say that reports of the demise of LA Cafe, which show up on the board from time to time, are overstated. Many frequent and long-standing patrons will tell you that the numbers and quality of available takeaways vary considerably from day to day and even over the span of an hour.
I'd welcome a report with conclusive evidence to the contrary.
Skip[/QUOTE]
As a relatively frequent visitor over a fairly lengthy period, I more or less decide that the place is in terminal decline on every visit and vow to steer well clear in future. And then I find yet another lovely young hottie there (who invariably tell me it is their first or second visit and I always believe them:o) and I'm hooked again.
Like you say its all a matter of unknowable timing. You can visit and find the place like the rejects corner in the ugly mongrels section at Crufts. Yet leave, get some much needed fresher air (not fresh - you are in Manila remember) and return a few hours later and the place has changed not one whit. Still the same tired old harridans chasing harassed looking punters. But wait - this time there are a few fresh faced, nice looking potentials hiding in the corner near the gents WC or at the big mirrors, tarting themselves up. And off you go again.
What annoys me most is the inflated prices caused by the barbarian Koreans (X Man words) or free spending western mongers. Not so long ago you could have any girl on the joint for P1000 ST or P1500 LT. Now only the desperate will go for that price.
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]As a relatively frequent visitor over a fairly lengthy period, I more or less decide that the place is in terminal decline on every visit and vow to steer well clear in future. And then I find yet another lovely young hottie there (who invariably tell me it is their first or second visit and I always believe them:o) and I'm hooked again.
Like you say its all a matter of unknowable timing. You can visit and find the place like the rejects corner in the ugly mongrels section at Crufts. Yet leave, get some much needed fresher air (not fresh - you are in Manila remember) and return a few hours later and the place has changed not one whit. Still the same tired old harridans chasing harassed looking punters. But wait - this time there are a few fresh faced, nice looking potentials hiding in the corner near the gents WC or at the big mirrors, tarting themselves up. And off you go again.
What annoys me most is the inflated prices caused by the barbarian Koreans (X Man words) or free spending western mongers. Not so long ago you could have any girl on the joint for P1000 ST or P1500 LT. Now only the desperate will go for that price.[/Q
I am in manila and have gone to La cafe few times. The problem is decent looking young girls seem to have their nose up in the air because they know all the rest are regular hogs. They have preference for koreans and japanese and will not readily lower the price unless it is late or they are desperate. I have seen some good looking girls come in and were swapped up right away. This does not happen in EDSA. You can sit down,relax, have a beer, make your choice,flirt around, negotiate and take the girl.
Ofcourse EDSA girl will cost approx 4500 pesos with drinks, barfine and min 2500 LT for the girl.
La cafe good looking young girls will cost 2500 LT and you do not need to buy her drinks. Can get 2000 LT sometimes with average girl. But most of the girls in LA cafe are over the hill in P4P terms and have one or more children. I have not seen any young college girls who used to stop in there before. Maybe there is some other spot they go to because of LA cafe reputation.
[QUOTE=Sammon] But most of the girls in LA cafe are over the hill in P4P terms and have one or more children. I have not seen any young college girls who used to stop in there before. Maybe there is some other spot they go to because of LA cafe reputation.[/QUOTE]
Many are now going up the street to G-point. I even heard that there was a mass exodus a few weeks ago because of a fight over a customer at LA.
G-point is a good place for friendly freelancers, not pushy or crowded. True, many are "over the hill" but that's all relative, isn't it? I found the older ones give a real GFE, and can be a lot more fun, but there are plenty of youngsters there later at night for the band, which is usually great BTW. And nobody balks at 1K ST/2K LT.
[QUOTE=Escort Fan]sounds nice if the check are serious! Are those girls going "covered" or not?
Just checking what's the standard is in EDSA. In angeles I found that most girls consider BB an the norm and condom as an exception.
In LA Café most girls seems to insist on condom. (even though I imagine if you offer 1K pesos extra you can obtain BB but I didn't try it), so what's the standard at EDSA, always covered, covered but can uncover with a tip, or up to client (angeles way).
If the girls are check after each client, I guess management is suspicious about the girls following security protocols.[/QUOTE]
Irrelevant of the place in the world or what girls like or used to I have two rules set in stone:
1. I don't go with a girl if I'm afraid of BBBJ and BJ is BBBJ.
2. Vaginal and anal covered only.
Now there are nasty things against condoms are useless like crabs, scabies etc. And remember that girls are an investment for the management and get their EWR irrelevant of how much tips girls earned.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost]Could we get you to recheck your math? If you pay 1500 PhP for short time at LA, and at EDSA you pay the girl 2500 PhP, that's a difference of $20. So for the difference to be only $30, the barfine would have to be only 1000 PhP. I'm thinking most recent reports have set the barfine a little higher than that.
In terms of LA "going downhill," have you made other visits there in the past so that you have some basis for comparison? The place is dark, noisy, and smokey, often (but not always) crowded, and most would agree with you that it's necessary to get past some unattractive women to find a keeper. The food isn't particularly good, and, as some of the girls report, you can get sick if your drink has ice cubes in it, because they use tap water. The solution to that is to order only drinks that come in a bottle.
But I'd sooner believe that LA Cafe is simply in a perpetual state of nastiness rather than going downhill. I was last there in August 2008, and before that in April 2007. I didn't see much difference in the intervening 16 months. If anything, there were more women there in August 08 than 16 months earlier, with about the same percentage of undesirables.
I am inclined to say that reports of the demise of LA Cafe, which show up on the board from time to time, are overstated. Many frequent and long-standing patrons will tell you that the numbers and quality of available takeaways vary considerably from day to day and even over the span of an hour.
I'd welcome a report with conclusive evidence to the contrary.
Skip[/QUOTE]
My last barfine at EDSA was like 1,400 pesos. Plus one drink for myself, one for the girl and one for mamasan.
Yes, you are right: I have no right to compare what was in the past. I am a good reader. Try to wash your hands on a first floor. Try to order mango juice and take a look how it is done.
[QUOTE=Illogic]Nice Report. Yeah the talent in LA is marginal at best but you can’t beat the prices I guess. I like Burgos and EDSA better though.[/QUOTE]I'm going to Manila soon, could anybody tell me the address of those places?Any other massage/pool bar/girls bar interesting in the city?
TQ
[QUOTE=Questner]One of the girls has told me that class “A” hookers can be seen at the disco Embassy club at the Fort (Bonifacio High Street) where the charge goes up to 10K. I wonder what I can get in Philippines for that price.[/QUOTE]
Embassy in Fort Bonifacio is a high end disco club for the spoiled rich brats. Many are from the near by villages like Dasmarinas, Forbs Park North and South. This is not a hooker bar. I don’t know if you can find working girls there, and if you are not a young stud with games, your chance to score there is very slim.
[QUOTE=Viajando Musico]Embassy in Fort Bonifacio is a high end disco club for the spoiled rich brats. Many are from the near by villages like Dasmarinas, Forbs Park North and South. This is not a hooker bar. I don’t know if you can find working girls there, and if you are not a young stud with games, your chance to score there is very slim.[/QUOTE]
I have been to Embassy, also to the place next to it (can't remember the name). Both are populated by young filipinos with money. I agree it's not a hooker bar. If there were working girls there, they were brought there by someone. I didn't see any girls that I thought might have been working girls. The admission was 600 pesos at the time. Dunno if it's higher now, but think of who can afford to pay 600 pesos just to get in. Plus drinks. I'm not bad looking for my age, but the girls were way too surrounded by good looking young pinoys to pay much attention to older guys. At least at Embassy, I brought my own (she and her friend were not working girls). I was at the other place with a local friend and his gf.
If you want higher class, better looking hookers in nightclubs, go to the high end KTVs like East Asian Entertainment on Roxas near EDSA (I've been there) or try those places in Quezon City described in the QC thread (I've not been to any of them). This is assuming, of course, that you have money to burn.
There's a large disco in Pasay called Nirvana that I've been to. Admission there is 250 pesos which is not so bad. If you're there with several locals (as I was), a good deal is to get the barrel of beer, that will keep them occupied for awhile and is cheap. Was too busy partying with the locals to tell if there were working girls there, but given the location and the cheaper admission, I'm sure the older soloist could find some company in there.
Any Manila board members who have a permanenet or semi permanent address, I would like a PM regarding temporary use for a mail drop. Worth a
few thousand pesos, nothing illegal.
Thanx
Spamhog
Paid one of my increasingly infrequent visits to LA Café over the weekend and found a real winner – and I mean a star!! A 19 year old, 4’ 11”, 90 pound Samartian girl, she was a ‘sure’ girl. Everything I asked her to do – the reply was the same – ‘sure’. She was such a fun girl – didn’t jump up and get dressed after the agreed 2nd pop, but stayed and chatted and cuddled until she eventually coaxed a fantastic third out of me. It takes a really special girl to do that, these days, over a short session, not withstanding her devotion to duty:D.
Astonishing thing, considering her youth, was her oral talents. She said that she learned it for a Filipino boyfriend, but she gave the most incredible, knee trembling BJ with amazing …cue drum roll….deep throat technique. Best I’ve ever encountered in The Philippines, and I’ve had one or two;).
This is why, despite the place and the area being the pits, the LA Café is still Numero Uno for freelance talent. Never fails to surprise as to what you can find there.
I’m interested to know if anyone else has encountered J____. I don’t need to describe her in any more detail – you will remember her if you have been with her!!
recently found in craigs lisst. always good to know when they will go the extra mile.
i'm assuming their extra mile definition is the same as mine
"female massage therapist needed for new high end massage service.
if you do not have experience we can teach you. all you need is to attend. we will teach swedish, thai, shiatsu and tantric.
however, you have to be pretty, young and energetic. also no qualms of rendering the extra mile of service to satisfy clients.
if interested. send us your resume, photo (full and face), contact number (must have working cellphone)
hurry few post open
knowledge in wet thai and tantra would be an advantage or we can train you.
housing will be provided.
location: metro manila
compensation: cash daily
this is a part-time job.
this is a contract job.
this is an internship job "
[QUOTE=Danokfan]I'm going to Manila soon, could anybody tell me the address of those places?Any other massage/pool bar/girls bar interesting in the city?
TQ[/QUOTE]The EDSA Entertainment Complex is basically at the intersection of Roxas Blvd. and Epifano Delos Santos Avenue (or EDSA.) Check out the map (find EDSA Bars) within the following link.
[url]http://www.singletravel.com/phil_faq2/manilamap.jpg[/url]
LA Cafe is located at 1429 M.H. del Pilar which at the corner of del Pilar and Romero Salas St.
Another freelancer joint is G-Point which is located about 4 blocks away at 510 Padre Faura St. Check out the link.
[url]http://www.gpointmanila.com/contact.html[/url]
Also, I am attaching a couple of maps: one, of the Ermita area and the other, of the corner of Roxas Blvd. and EDSA.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=115321&stc=1[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=115322&stc=1[/url]
Hello fellows:
First I want to thank everyone for so much information regarding fun in The Philippines. I’ve been reading for sometime now and it seems to me that I have to definitely visit LA Café, no visit to Manila would be complete otherwise. I also want to visit EDSA.
I’ll be in Manila in a week and I’m confused about EDSA, looking at maps I see that EDSA is a street. I was told that I have to stay at the Shangri-La in EDSA. Then, I saw that EDSA is very popular in the forum so I was very happy. I am not sure as to where the places everyone talks about are, it seems to me that the EDSA complex is near the airport. Could someone clarify that please? I am interested in Firehouse and others in the vicinity.
Another point is that I’ll be working at night. Reading the forum it seems to me that things go on pretty late, but even is I leave early I don’t think I could make it before 6:00AM. Does anyone know if that would still be OK?
Thanks again for all the good info, I’ll keep reading but will appreciate some advice.
Thanks, BP
[QUOTE=Big Poppa II]Hello fellows:
First I want to thank everyone for so much information regarding fun in The Philippines. I’ve been reading for sometime now and it seems to me that I have to definitely visit LA Café, no visit to Manila would be complete otherwise. I also want to visit EDSA.
I’ll be in Manila in a week and I’m confused about EDSA, looking at maps I see that EDSA is a street. I was told that I have to stay at the Shangri-La in EDSA. Then, I saw that EDSA is very popular in the forum so I was very happy. I am not sure as to where the places everyone talks about are, it seems to me that the EDSA complex is near the airport. Could someone clarify that please? I am interested in Firehouse and others in the vicinity.
EDSA is an acronym, stands for someone's name, you can google it..is a long highway. Anyway, you tell the taxi driver you want the "Firehouse at EDSA extension, across from Heritage Hotel." If they don't know where it is, get out of the taxi and get another taxi. You can also pick up a map of Manila, sold at most USA bookstores (if you are in USA), and find a lot of places, or buy Lonely Planet travel guide and find it in there. Hope that helps. HAVE FUN.
[QUOTE=Mr Hawaii][QUOTE=Big Poppa II]Hello fellows:
First I want to thank everyone for so much information regarding fun in The Philippines. I’ve been reading for sometime now and it seems to me that I have to definitely visit LA Café, no visit to Manila would be complete otherwise. I also want to visit EDSA.
I’ll be in Manila in a week and I’m confused about EDSA, looking at maps I see that EDSA is a street. I was told that I have to stay at the Shangri-La in EDSA. Then, I saw that EDSA is very popular in the forum so I was very happy. I am not sure as to where the places everyone talks about are, it seems to me that the EDSA complex is near the airport. Could someone clarify that please? I am interested in Firehouse and others in the vicinity.
EDSA is a long and twisting avenue. What you want is EDSA entertainment complex which is across from heritage hotel. If the taxi driver does not know, ask to go to Heroitage Hotel and walk across overbridge.
EDSA is an acronym, stands for someone's name, you can google it..is a long highway. Anyway, you tell the taxi driver you want the "Firehouse at EDSA extension, across from Heritage Hotel." If they don't know where it is, get out of the taxi and get another taxi. You can also pick up a map of Manila, sold at most USA bookstores (if you are in USA), and find a lot of places, or buy Lonely Planet travel guide and find it in there. Hope that helps. HAVE FUN.[/QUOTE]
Thank you all for the help.
Hopefully I'll have something to report upon my return.
BP
[QUOTE=Big Poppa II] I’ll be in Manila in a week and I’m confused about EDSA, looking at maps I see that EDSA is a street. I was told that I have to stay at the Shangri-La in EDSA. Then, I saw that EDSA is very popular in the forum so I was very happy. I am not sure as to where the places everyone talks about are, it seems to me that the EDSA complex is near the airport. Could someone clarify that please? I am interested in Firehouse and others in the vicinity.
Another point is that I’ll be working at night. Reading the forum it seems to me that things go on pretty late, but even is I leave early I don’t think I could make it before 6:00AM. Does anyone know if that would still be OK?
Thanks, BP[/QUOTE]
Mr. H gave you accurate information. Here's a little more. The Shangri-La is in the Makati area, a few blocks from Epifanio Delos Santos Avenue (EDSA), the highway. The EDSA entertainment complex is West of there, near the intersection of EDSA and Harrison, in Pasay City. If the taxi driver doesn't know the EDSA entertainment complex, tell him to take you to the intersection of EDSA and Harrison. If he doesn't know that, he's not from Manila; get rid of him. It is, as Mr. H pointed out, across EDSA from the Heritage hotel. The Heritage is on the South side of EDSA (nearer the airport); EDSA complex is on the North side.
The entrance to the EDSA complex is just a couple of doors and a few concrete steps. You'll know it's the place because of taxis and touts standing outside offering to introduce you to all sorts of vices. Ignore them and walk through the doors like you already know the place. Inside there are various clubs opening into a big open area in the middle. Doormen at the various clubs and/or women at the doors will try to coax you in. Various detailed reports have been offered about some of the individual clubs.
EDSA complex is not open all night. I've only been there in the early evening, so can't tell you how late it closes or how early it opens. The LA Cafe is open 24 hours, rain or shine, and there are usually pay4play independents there at all hours. You can sometimes get some real bargains there at 6 am, since girls who work at EDSA or on Burgos Ave. in Makati sometimes go there after their own bars close if they have not been barfined at their usual bars. But do be on the lookout for drunks and druggies in LA in the early morning hours. Make sure to engage them in conversation long enough to figure out whether you're getting somebody who's more or less sober.
If you go to LA, you will need a taxi back to the Shangri-La. Some recommend avoiding the taxis right in front of LA. Instead go straight out of LA and continue ahead one block on Romero-Salas to the 7-11 at the corner of Mabini, and get your taxi there. Other people turn right out the door of LA and go about a block and a half on Romero-Salas the other direction (toward Manila Bay) until you get to Roxas Boulevard or its frontage road, and wave down a cab there.
Enjoy. Skip
I wouldn't walk far from LA Cafe. It's a horrible area. I was robbed by 4 thugs. And from what I now here, lucky I didn't resist at all.
I'm not old; I'm in shape'; I wasn't drunk. They just decided to forcefully rob me.
You've been warned. There's folks on here who swear the area around there is as safe as your living room.
It's not.
[QUOTE=Big Poppa II]Thank you all for the help.
Hopefully I'll have something to report upon my return.
BP[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Skip Kost]The entrance to the EDSA complex is just a couple of doors and a few concrete steps. You'll know it's the place because of taxis and touts standing outside offering to introduce you to all sorts of vices.
EDSA complex is not open all night. I've only been there in the early evening, so can't tell you how late it closes or how early it opens. Make sure to engage them in conversation long enough to figure out whether you're getting somebody who's more or less sober.
Ifand go about a block and a half on Romero-Salas the other direction (toward Manila Bay) until you get to Roxas Boulevard or its frontage road, and wave down a cab there.
Enjoy. Skip[/QUOTE]Edsa Entertainment opens at about 6..at that time girls are eating in the little area outside the bars but bars only realy get going after 6.30.
On a sunday I think they open about 4... or at least used to when I was in that area.
Actually there are two Shagrila hotels. Shagrila Makati on the corner of Ayala Ave and Makati Ave. This is the one closer to the EDSA entertainment center. And the EDSA Shagrila which is actually in Ortigas Center, Pasig near the SM MegaMall, which depending on traffic can be over an hour away from the EDSA entertainment center. Late at night (after 1-2am) it can be pretty quick though, say 20-30 min.
Is this something new? Can anyone confirm?
It's been a while since I went to EDSA, but my alcohol-addled memory says 8pm is the opening time.
X
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Edsa Entertainment opens at about 6..at that time girls are eating in the little area outside the bars but bars only realy get going after 6.30.
On a sunday I think they open about 4... or at least used to when I was in that area.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Redfield10]I wouldn't walk far from LA Cafe. It's a horrible area. I was robbed by 4 thugs. And from what I now here, lucky I didn't resist at all.
I'm not old; I'm in shape'; I wasn't drunk. They just decided to forcefully rob me.
You've been warned. There's folks on here who swear the area around there is as safe as your living room.
It's not.[/QUOTE]
It's been mentioned before this whole incident that this area is seedy and that there are a lot of poor people on the streets there. For someone who keeps on harping on what seems to be a fluke of bad luck, I wonder why he seems surprised that this could happen when this area has been talked about before. If you had done your research, you knew that the possibility was there that petty crime could happen and it did. Violently robbed has been used quite a bit to describe this incident, but we still don't know the details of what type of violence. I think it would help the people on this board if you could describe in detail exactly how it all transpired, not just saying you were violently robbed. How so? Was there a knife to your neck, or a gun to your head, or were you knocked down to the ground and pinned? That would be violent.
For newbies looking for information, please don't take that everyone here who is talking know's what they are talking about or whatever someone says is 100% correct. You don't have to take my word for it, but really there are some people here who think they know but they don't. It's not always easy to see who does or doesn't. Posts count or the title of "Senior Member" is not a shoe in that the person can be of assistance to you. You can look back at what someone posts to get an ideal sometimes.
Now going back to the Ermita/Malate area. As mentioned this area is a little dodgy. If you are truly new to the third world scene and traveling, it's probably not the best place to get your feet wet. It's dark at night and there are poor people on the streets. Sometimes a little pack of kids will come up to you at the same time and paw at you, while one tries to pickpocket you. Lots of beggars here also. If you can't handle this sort of thing, I suggest you not bother coming here. In the PI there are lots of poor people here. The information is here to read. There are lots of posts, you just have to take the time to read through them to get more than just the gist.
I have never heard someone say it's as safe as your living room in the Ermita/Malate area. It's pretty obvious if you are paying attention when you walk around. What would you think of someone I took the time out to answer private messages to where I was very detailed in my answers and then answer even more questions in regards to it and then see that he private messaged many other members the same questions and also asked the same questions on multiple threads as if it was so urgent? Some might think something is not right. If someone is like that, PI is probably not a good fit for them.
[QUOTE=Key Master]It's been mentioned before this whole incident that this area is seedy and that there are a lot of poor people on the streets there. For someone who keeps on harping on what seems to be a fluke of bad luck, I wonder why he seems surprised that this could happen when this area has been talked about before. If you had done your research, you knew that the possibility was there that petty crime could happen and it did. Violently robbed has been used quite a bit to describe this incident, but we still don't know the details of what type of violence. I think it would help the people on this board if you could describe in detail exactly how it all transpired, not just saying you were violently robbed. How so? Was there a knife to your neck, or a gun to your head, or were you knocked down to the ground and pinned? That would be violent.
For newbies looking for information, please don't take that everyone here who is talking know's what they are talking about or whatever someone says is 100% correct. You don't have to take my word for it, but really there are some people here who think they know but they don't. It's not always easy to see who does or doesn't. Posts count or the title of "Senior Member" is not a shoe in that the person can be of assistance to you. You can look back at what someone posts to get an ideal sometimes.
Now going back to the Ermita/Malate area. As mentioned this area is a little dodgy. If you are truly new to the third world scene and traveling, it's probably not the best place to get your feet wet. It's dark at night and there are poor people on the streets. Sometimes a little pack of kids will come up to you at the same time and paw at you, while one tries to pickpocket you. Lots of beggars here also. If you can't handle this sort of thing, I suggest you not bother coming here. In the PI there are lots of poor people here. The information is here to read. There are lots of posts, you just have to take the time to read through them to get more than just the gist.
I have never heard someone say it's as safe as your living room in the Ermita/Malate area. It's pretty obvious if you are paying attention when you walk around. What would you think of someone I took the time out to answer private messages to where I was very detailed in my answers and then answer even more questions in regards to it and then see that he private messaged many other members the same questions and also asked the same questions on multiple threads as if it was so urgent? Some might think something is not right. If someone is like that, PI is probably not a good fit for them.[/QUOTE]In 30 years of mongering (at night and business during the day) I have NEVER had any problems whatsoever!
The worst was my own fault and while walking back to Thr Rotman Hotel (I Think) I fell (as is easy to do on those sidewalks) and broke my fall with the palm of my hand and (as luck would have it) I cut it on some glass in the small ditch!
I Australia I could have sued the local council, but in Manila you're on your own! Luckily I was with a customer of mine and all ended well!
[QUOTE=Key Master]It's been mentioned before this whole incident that this area is seedy and that there are a lot of poor people on the streets there. For someone who keeps on harping on what seems to be a fluke of bad luck, I wonder why he seems surprised that this could happen when this area has been talked about before. If you had done your research, you knew that the possibility was there that petty crime could happen and it did. Violently robbed has been used quite a bit to describe this incident, but we still don't know the details of what type of violence. I think it would help the people on this board if you could describe in detail exactly how it all transpired, not just saying you were violently robbed. How so? Was there a knife to your neck, or a gun to your head, or were you knocked down to the ground and pinned? That would be violent.
For newbies looking for information, please don't take that everyone here who is talking know's what they are talking about or whatever someone says is 100% correct. You don't have to take my word for it, but really there are some people here who think they know but they don't. It's not always easy to see who does or doesn't. Posts count or the title of "Senior Member" is not a shoe in that the person can be of assistance to you. You can look back at what someone posts to get an ideal sometimes.
Now going back to the Ermita/Malate area. As mentioned this area is a little dodgy. If you are truly new to the third world scene and traveling, it's probably not the best place to get your feet wet. It's dark at night and there are poor people on the streets. Sometimes a little pack of kids will come up to you at the same time and paw at you, while one tries to pickpocket you. Lots of beggars here also. If you can't handle this sort of thing, I suggest you not bother coming here. In the PI there are lots of poor people here. The information is here to read. There are lots of posts, you just have to take the time to read through them to get more than just the gist.
I have never heard someone say it's as safe as your living room in the Ermita/Malate area. It's pretty obvious if you are paying attention when you walk around. What would you think of someone I took the time out to answer private messages to where I was very detailed in my answers and then answer even more questions in regards to it and then see that he private messaged many other members the same questions and also asked the same questions on multiple threads as if it was so urgent? Some might think something is not right. If someone is like that, PI is probably not a good fit for them.[/QUOTE]
Tips to avoid being robbed around LA cafe
1. Do not overdress. LA cafe is a casual place.
2. Do not flash money, jewellery etc.
3. Do not walk on the side streets later at night. Stick to main roads.
Manila being a big city there are always many people walking on major
roads. It is unlikely somebody will try to rob you when there are many
people around.
4. Carry some coins so that you can get rid of some children right away
rather than they cling on to you. Gives them more time to feel your
pockets.
5. Carry only 1000-1200 pesos. That is all needed to spend some time
in LA cafe. No barfine to pay. Never carry wallet or foreign currency.
6. If you see the street is deserted wait till some people are walking
before you proceed.
7. If you are kind of drunk pick a girl and walk with her. You reasonably safe
if you are with a local girl unless she is in on it. Besiodes the girl does
not want to loose her money.
8. Most important is just ignore all the shady characters who try to talk to
you .
9. Avoid walking alone on the street bet 2 am - 4 am. That is when the
robbers tend to target people.
10. I know this has been said many times. Never get a taxi in front of
LA cafe. Walk one block to mabini and hail a cruising taxi.
X Man's survival tactics.
Walk quick and with purpose, even if you're lost. Especially if you're lost.
Look dodgy people in the eye. Don't smile unless it is you've perfected Heath Ledger's Joker smile.
Don't give kids change, you create an exponentially growing problem. If you must give them something, give them a snack you got at the convenience store. Throw the snack in front of fast moving traffic.
If trapped in a potentially dangerous situation, start snorting, eyes rolling, spastic movements. You'll scare most people away. And the the meth freaks, they'll think you are one of their own. This also works on Tokyo trains. People will get up and move, you can lay down if you want. Anyway, back to MNL.
Don't shave -- looking scary is good. Don't wear jewelry. Don't walk around like a chickenshit.
And always wear plaid. It seems to incite those pale looking British folks, even though it scares away Fil. criminals.
X
[QUOTE=X Man]Is this something new? Can anyone confirm?
It's been a while since I went to EDSA, but my alcohol-addled memory says 8pm is the opening time.
X[/QUOTE]drive past at 4pm and you will see the dleiveries being made. Drive past at 6 and you will see the lights on and girls going in.
I'm often exiting the Sogo at that time and enjoy watching the chickas crossing EDSA, knowing where they are going to work.
[quote=x man]
don't give kids change, you create an exponentially growing problem. if you must give them something, give them a snack you got at the convenience store. throw the snack in front of fast moving traffic.x[/quote]
sounds similar to the methods used by the brazilian police to eradicate their street kid problem. except in their case it’s speeding lead, rather than a fast moving car (which is difficult to find in urban manila, anyway):d.
[quote=x man]
and always wear plaid. it seems to incite those pale looking british folks, even though it scares away fil. criminals.x[/quote]
plaid as a bad guy deterrent. brilliant!! should have known – the scottish have been using it for this very purpose for centuries; it used to scare the hell out of the germans in the first world war. if all else fails and the crims invade your space, you could then continue the jockinese theme by trying a ‘glasgow kiss’;).
[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=glasgow+kiss[/url]
on a recent trip to manila, i noticed the number of vendors and street touts who were persistient like never before. i left my makati prime towers and walked down burgos street past the "ringside" lady boxing bar midgets were featured that night and i am sorry mrs spamhog and i had to be on a plane or we wouldn't have missed it for the world.
just going to the 7/11 created a whole entorurage of characters trying to sell me viagra, swords, watches, sunglasses and x rated tapes. i didn't like at all how these jokers seemed to swarm and block my passage, even when i shouted in tagalog and visayan so they knew i was no tourista, took some maneuvering to get by, when i ducked into 7/11 i noticed the shark pack waited outside. i was careful to hand over only small bills to the cashier.
then it was outside again to run the gauntlet. any fool who got too frisky would have gotten a face full of 7/11 scalding coffee.
but my general strategy is to move fast, never stop and be aware of where they are. if cornered, i throw down my "polish bank roll" rep001tering small bills and while they scramble i do the heel and toe.
remember, you can pop into any building, most have a guard and the guard will not let those mope's inside. they will protect you and they will any group for a small fee, for all intents and purposes, they are the law on the premises and the sidewalk in front.
never had to do it but always have a plan.....
spamhog
[QUOTE=Mr Hawaii][QUOTE=Big Poppa II]I’ll be in Manila in a week and I’m confused about EDSA, looking at maps I see that EDSA is a street. I was told that I have to stay at the Shangri-La in EDSA. Then, I saw that EDSA is very popular in the forum so I was very happy. I am not sure as to where the places everyone talks about are, it seems to me that the EDSA complex is near the airport. Could someone clarify that please? I am interested in Firehouse and others in the vicinity.[/QUOTE]Yes EDSA is a "freeway" to use the term loosely because traffic never flows smoothly on it.
But you are looking for the EDSA entertainment complex. As mentioned it is very non-descript from the outside, but all of that does not matter because all you need to do is get in a taxi and say "take me to the EDSA entertainment complex" Every taxi knows where it is because it is very popular with foreigners.
Be prepared for the old standard "I don't know where it is, but I will take you to a better place." So the better way to do it is stick your head in the taxi before entering and ask if he knows how to get there. If he waivers even a little then slam the door and go to the next taxi.
Also, do not stay at a hotel in EDSA, only stay in Makati or Ermita! I assume you are going to Manila strictly for mongering? These are the best places for this.
This makes me not want to go. I booked my ticket already, but it sounds worse than Vietnam. I guess I should grab the first Girl and head straight to Boracay.
[quote=gamahucher]sounds similar to the methods used by the brazilian police to eradicate their street kid problem. except in their case it’s speeding lead, rather than a fast moving car (which is difficult to find in urban manila, anyway):d.
plaid as a bad guy deterrent. brilliant!! should have known – the scottish have been using it for this very purpose for centuries; it used to scare the hell out of the germans in the first world war. if all else fails and the crims invade your space, you could then continue the jockinese theme by trying a ‘glasgow kiss’;).
[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=glasgow+kiss[/url][/quote]hmm where i come from , the act of planting ones head with high velocity onto the perps nose ( ostenisbly to cause heavy bleeding and breakage if possible ) is called a barnsley kiss!
guess we all have our own version of "the kiss "
I am the last one to disparage reasonable attempts at self preservation, but I think some of these posts are over-estimating the degree of danger. These are more than typically desperate times for the country, and people are consequently making stronger than usual attempts to survive. I think this is what accounts for the increased aggression on the part of the street hawkers. It's been my experience that these guys are not, for the most part, prone to violence, and I look at the hordes of vendors who engulf me every time I venture onto Burgos Street more as an inconvenience than a threat. The same goes for the touts, hustlers, beggars and vendors in Ermita; they're a pain in the ass, but they're not typically very dangerous.
I'm a lot more apprehensive on the silent streets of Zamboanga than I am on the human traffic-clogged sidewalks of Manila.
GE
I had one run in with beggars. Nothing serious I just tossed a couple cigarettes on the ground and that did the trick.
I'm going to invest in pepper spray next time I'm in country. I saw a vendor selling it at a booth in Mall of Asia. I could only imagine those poor dirty bumbs getting nailed by a steady stream of Pepper spray. Bet they wouldn't mess with a another monger for sometime after they had their eyes burned out of their skulls.
It's probably not a great idea to pepper spray a local, bumb or not. Unless there is some real danger of being physically harmed. Plus who wants to carry that crap in their pocket while mongering.
Unless you have an abnormally strong desire to risk deportation and a few nights in a local jail, I suggest that you suppress any thoughts of physically abusing the local population, particularly in a place like Burgos, which has a strong police presence. There's been a recent upsurge in the degree of resentment of foreigners, precipitated by the recent re-signing of the US-RP VFA, and since most foreigners are automatically assumed to be Americans, you might be risking more than the situation warrants.
GE
In response to GE's concerns, I want to say that my earlier post (quoted below) was mostly in jest. I've never had and serious problems in the Philippines other than a missing wallet, and I've never had any physical confrontation. (I'm not counting the lass who got a little to vigerous while on top and put my tool out of action for two days).
When alone at night on dark streets, I do walk quickly and confidently. I learned that in Detroit until they banished me (you reading Puerta ?).
In the past I've been surprised by non Filipinos who've told me it's a dangerous place, but have had no bad experiences. They claim its dangerous just because they see a run down neighborhood and people in rather worn clothes looking at them.
All I can say to that type of thinking is ...."boo".
X
[QUOTE=X Man]X Man's survival tactics.
Walk quick and with purpose, even if you're lost. Especially if you're lost.
Look dodgy people in the eye. Don't smile unless it is you've perfected Heath Ledger's Joker smile.
Don't give kids change, you create an exponentially growing problem. If you must give them something, give them a snack you got at the convenience store. Throw the snack in front of fast moving traffic.
If trapped in a potentially dangerous situation, start snorting, eyes rolling, spastic movements. You'll scare most people away. And the the meth freaks, they'll think you are one of their own. This also works on Tokyo trains. People will get up and move, you can lay down if you want. Anyway, back to MNL.
Don't shave -- looking scary is good. Don't wear jewelry. Don't walk around like a chickenshit.
And always wear plaid. It seems to incite those pale looking British folks, even though it scares away Fil. criminals.
X[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Americanthief]This makes me not want to go. I booked my ticket already, but it sounds worse than Vietnam. I guess I should grab the first Girl and head straight to Boracay.[/QUOTE]
It depends on you. If you are a nervous nellie and not willing to deal with some crap then don't go, but you might be missing out on some great experiences.
[QUOTE=Gravel Kicker]I had one run in with beggars. Nothing serious I just tossed a couple cigarettes on the ground and that did the trick.
I'm going to invest in pepper spray next time I'm in country. I saw a vendor selling it at a booth in Mall of Asia. I could only imagine those poor dirty bumbs getting nailed by a steady stream of Pepper spray. Bet they wouldn't mess with a another monger for sometime after they had their eyes burned out of their skulls.
It's probably not a great idea to pepper spray a local, bumb or not. Unless there is some real danger of being physically harmed. Plus who wants to carry that crap in their pocket while mongering.[/QUOTE]
Nice one! You made your case, then talked yourself out of it. Good decision though.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Hmm where I come from , the act of planting ones head with high velocity onto the perps nose ( ostenisbly to cause heavy bleeding and breakage if possible ) is called a Barnsley kiss![/QUOTE]
Ee up by gum, lad, thas cum from t’god’s cuntry. (translation: Well, well Sir, you do originate from a fine part of UK).
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Ee up by gum, lad, thas cum from t’god’s cuntry. (translation: Well, well Sir, you do originate from a fine part of UK).[/QUOTE]Theres only one reply I can make to that t'old lad... and its " appen!"
Americans, please note.. sorry but we're talking a totally foreign language that is vaguely based upon English.
Huh?
Your last paragraph made no sense to me.
You talk as if I'm a newbie and didn't detail my experience. Go do your "own" homework as I've described the incident several times. I'm not going to do it again for you benefit.
It's a bad and dangerous area of Manila and from talking to quite a few others both on this board, other boards and in person it's not unusual to expereince problems there including getting pickpocketed by several people at once and also getting more violently accosted or assaulted.
It's many times more dangerous in that area, in general, (in my opinion and the opinion of many others) than say anywhere in Bangkok, Phnom Phen, Ho Chi Minh City, etc.(I've been all over all of them).
One friend has mongered all over the world literally for 30 years on many continents and in many major and not so major cities and said it's the worse place he's ever experienced in terms of actual and potential danger except perhaps Nairobi at it's worse.
Sure, not everyone is going to get robbed or accosted, or pickpocketed every time they walk there. That doesn't mean it's not more dangerous than almost any other popular mongering places folks go to.
If you don't agree, that's fair. I feel I owe it to folks to warn them. It does make walking down anywhere on Sukhumvit in Bangkok or walking "anywhere" in Phnom Penh or Ho Chi Minh City seem like sitting in your living room compared to that part of Manila, in my opinion.
You are welcome to your own opinion.
[QUOTE=Key Master]It's been mentioned before this whole incident that this area is seedy and that there are a lot of poor people on the streets there. For someone who keeps on harping on what seems to be a fluke of bad luck, I wonder why he seems surprised that this could happen when this area has been talked about before. If you had done your research, you knew that the possibility was there that petty crime could happen and it did. Violently robbed has been used quite a bit to describe this incident, but we still don't know the details of what type of violence. I think it would help the people on this board if you could describe in detail exactly how it all transpired, not just saying you were violently robbed. How so? Was there a knife to your neck, or a gun to your head, or were you knocked down to the ground and pinned? That would be violent.
For newbies looking for information, please don't take that everyone here who is talking know's what they are talking about or whatever someone says is 100% correct. You don't have to take my word for it, but really there are some people here who think they know but they don't. It's not always easy to see who does or doesn't. Posts count or the title of "Senior Member" is not a shoe in that the person can be of assistance to you. You can look back at what someone posts to get an ideal sometimes.
Now going back to the Ermita/Malate area. As mentioned this area is a little dodgy. If you are truly new to the third world scene and traveling, it's probably not the best place to get your feet wet. It's dark at night and there are poor people on the streets. Sometimes a little pack of kids will come up to you at the same time and paw at you, while one tries to pickpocket you. Lots of beggars here also. If you can't handle this sort of thing, I suggest you not bother coming here. In the PI there are lots of poor people here. The information is here to read. There are lots of posts, you just have to take the time to read through them to get more than just the gist.
I have never heard someone say it's as safe as your living room in the Ermita/Malate area. It's pretty obvious if you are paying attention when you walk around. What would you think of someone I took the time out to answer private messages to where I was very detailed in my answers and then answer even more questions in regards to it and then see that he private messaged many other members the same questions and also asked the same questions on multiple threads as if it was so urgent? Some might think something is not right. If someone is like that, PI is probably not a good fit for them.[/QUOTE]
You're joking, right? The area around LA CAFE is 100 times worse than anywhere in Ho Chi Minh city or elsewhere in Vietnam that I've been. In my opinion.
Go anyway, but just be careful. And know that the area is dangerous.
[QUOTE=Americanthief]This makes me not want to go. I booked my ticket already, but it sounds worse than Vietnam. I guess I should grab the first Girl and head straight to Boracay.[/QUOTE]
In the "good old days" used to run a few marathons and knew that they needed a certain amount and certain style of training.
Well, I have another Manila trip up and coming and the best I can do these days for training is good sleep and little alcohol.
The program is expected to be
Arrive, at 3pm. Meet friendly 20 year I had scored with from previous trip. Shes fun and fit and definately worth a second pop. She says she has to leave by 8pm to take bus to province. Well that works for me. Leaves me free to get to Burgos.
Next day..meeting a chat friend from Davao. We planned to meet a few times last year but we never got dates worked out. Turns out shes moved to Makati and her office is 200 metres from my condo. Will meet her for breakfast, then in afernoon will meet a college student ( 24) met and popped on previous trip. This time she says shes not nervous, all holes are available, and she will wear her college outfit.
Will leave her at 7pm as have a meeting with a 34 year old with D cups. She says if I buy her a bollte of Baileys "many things can happen".
Next day will be my regular from Pampanga.Always up for most games... this time Ive arranged for a female massage lady to come to the room... will see how she likes a little female touch....as well as my own of course lol.
Next day am suprisingly free, altho the Davao girl and I have a date that night that Im sure will result in some bed and bump time.
Last morning.. havent yet decided who's on the list but Im sure there will be someone.
And that is the going to be my next few days...and i love it !!!!
Have an opportunity to pick up a 45 sq. meter condo unit about a minute walk from the Swagman Hotel and right down the alley from Wendys for about $5K USD. It would need another $5K to $10K for a total interior renovation.
Where else in the world can you find a place almost directly across the street from the US Embassy at such a price? With pussy everywhere!
Problem is simple - the neighborhood, even during the day is packed with annoying street urchins, beggars, and lowlifes. Sitting at the Wendys one day I bought a two piece chicken & rice for a woman and her two toddlers - and some asshole (presumably the BF or father) came sauntering across the street (from the park), grabbed a piece - and half the rice and went back to drinking with his friends.
I slowly realized that putting any money into a condo, or even an entire building in that area would be a total waste of resources. The choices are to a) rent it to lowlifes and watch them roast cat over a fire built in the kitchen sink, b) rent it to mongers who typically leave a nasty residue of cigarette tar, condoms, cumstains and cheap alcohol - or c), use it as a private fuckpad.
Personally - I don't think the area is any worst then Market Street in San Francisco. But compared to other Asian cities - it's pretty bad. I'd take Itaewon, Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur or Orchard Towers in Singapore over LA Cafe (and associated local dumps) any day.
Your safest option (in that area) is to play mall hunter and bag them in the eurotel (which has in wall safes for your wallet and cell phone). The shitbags who run the Malate bars don't do anything for the girls, or the neighborhood anyway. Hell, half the scam cabs in front of LA are owned by people related to or directly by the bar owners.
Remember, many of the girls haunting LA are the ones who didn't pass the very weak health exams required by the bars in Makati, EDSA or Quezon.
I am not a fan... (of the area, bars, or girls)
[QUOTE=Redfield10]You're joking, right? The area around LA CAFE is 100 times worse than anywhere in Ho Chi Minh city or elsewhere in Vietnam that I've been. In my opinion.
Go anyway, but just be careful. And know that the area is dangerous.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Redfield10]You're joking, right? The area around LA CAFE is 100 times worse than anywhere in Ho Chi Minh city or elsewhere in Vietnam that I've been. In my opinion.
Go anyway, but just be careful. And know that the area is dangerous.[/QUOTE]
It's true that I cannot remember any part of any city in Vietnam that was quite a seedy as the area around LA. On the other hand, it's easy to over react. Sleazy and seedy does not necessarily mean dangerous. In the six years that I've lived here, and in innumerable trips to that area, I've never come close to having a problem and, as I've pointed out before, I'm old, not in the least bit intimidating and probably an easy mark.
It's always wise to be aware of your surroundings, and it's prudent no to do anything that makes you uncomfortable, but if you're reasonably alert and reasonably polite, you should not have any problems. Don't let fear get in the way of enjoying yourself. Take a taxi to the door and, when you leave, walk about thirty or forty meters down the street to grab another taxi.
GE
[QUOTE=Redfield10]Huh?
Your last paragraph made no sense to me.
You talk as if I'm a newbie and didn't detail my experience. Go do your "own" homework as I've described the incident several times. I'm not going to do it again for you benefit.
It's a bad and dangerous area of Manila and from talking to quite a few others both on this board, other boards and in person it's not unusual to expereince problems there including getting pickpocketed by several people at once and also getting more violently accosted or assaulted.
It's many times more dangerous in that area, in general, (in my opinion and the opinion of many others) than say anywhere in Bangkok, Phnom Phen, Ho Chi Minh City, etc.(I've been all over all of them).
One friend has mongered all over the world literally for 30 years on many continents and in many major and not so major cities and said it's the worse place he's ever experienced in terms of actual and potential danger except perhaps Nairobi at it's worse.
Sure, not everyone is going to get robbed or accosted, or pickpocketed every time they walk there. That doesn't mean it's not more dangerous than almost any other popular mongering places folks go to.
If you don't agree, that's fair. I feel I owe it to folks to warn them. It does make walking down anywhere on Sukhumvit in Bangkok or walking "anywhere" in Phnom Penh or Ho Chi Minh City seem like sitting in your living room compared to that part of Manila, in my opinion.
You are welcome to your own opinion.[/QUOTE]
I have read your posts and still trying to decipher "violent". The element is there and petty theft is there. I actually have met one of your supporters that you use who got frightened and it's not surprising to me. The last paragraph must be a field of dreams. This area is not for newbies or skittish people, that is true.
[QUOTE=ShadowAxis]Remember, many of the girls haunting LA are the ones who didn't pass the very weak health exams required by the bars in Makati, EDSA or Quezon.[/QUOTE]Would be interested to know on what premise you base this assertion?
From knowing a girl who used to waitress simultaneously at a club on Burgeos and at LA. And sadly, observation.
I asked her about a familiar girl I spotted who dropped out of the Makati lineup and the rumor was she failed her checkup. She told me that some girls would rather go to a place like LA (or a dozen other bars) then freelance on the street.
A girl can fail for any number of obvious and often treatable reasons at which point she is back on Burgeos; but some can't go for very long without some freelance income. On a positive note. Look at it this way, at least some girls are failing the medical and being removed from the lineups. I didn't think that actually ever happened.
Yet another reason I stick to the spas, fishbowls, and established bars.
Have been spending my mongering time trying to figure out where the well off older local men go for pussy. I would imagine they are paying about the same rates as we do. And maybe the selection is better.
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Would be interested to know on what premise you base this assertion?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ShadowAxis]From knowing a girl who used to waitress simultaneously at a club on Burgeos and at LA. And sadly, observation.
I asked her about a familiar girl I spotted who dropped out of the Makati lineup and the rumor was she failed her checkup. She told me that some girls would rather go to a place like LA (or a dozen other bars) then freelance on the street.
A girl can fail for any number of obvious and often treatable reasons at which point she is back on Burgeos; but some can't go for very long without some freelance income. On a positive note. Look at it this way, at least some girls are failing the medical and being removed from the lineups. I didn't think that actually ever happened.
Yet another reason I stick to the spas, fishbowls, and established bars.
Have been spending my mongering time trying to figure out where the well off older local men go for pussy. I would imagine they are paying about the same rates as we do. And maybe the selection is better.[/QUOTE]
I have had some problems with bad smelling pussies from LA cafe. I always check the smell even though I will never bareback anybody from there.
If they smell bad I do give the agreed amount and ask them to leave in order to avoid confrontation.
Little checking and if possible visual inspection is necessary. Never ever DATY.
From my own observations, I would say that the types of girls who work out of LA Café can be broadly categorized as follows:
1. The hoary (or whory) old regulars.
2. Those staying at the boarding house upstairs. Also regular.
3. Moonlighters from other venues in Burgos, EDSA and Cubao. They may be rejects on health grounds but many visit after work if they have not been barfined (or have and want more money).
4. Less regular visitor from outlying areas such as Cavite etc who come in once or twice a week. Often seems to be single mothers.
5. The true amateur, often visiting with a friend, but not adverse to a spot of business. Seen once or twice and never again or becomes a very infrequent visitor. Sometimes students or in other gainful employment.
There may be other categories and obviously the dividing line between them are blurry. Also it is difficult, without being a daily regular, to distinguish between the various types. Even the haggard old regular will claim to be a student:D.
In all cases, the onus is on you the monger to check that the meat is fit for consumption. Don't know about you guys but I always err towards extreme caution and have a trusted and step by step hygiene procedure which does seem to work and has kept me infection free. But mongering is a risk takers game and there are never any guarantees. However, it never fails to amaze me how many guys will bareback LA Cafe girls:eek:.
[QUOTE=ShadowAxis]
Have been spending my mongering time trying to figure out where the well off older local men go for pussy. I would imagine they are paying about the same rates as we do. And maybe the selection is better.[/QUOTE]
Let us all know when you finally do figure it out;). Same as the rest of us, I would say. But with more emphasis on Dating Sites (particularly Friendster), local KTV's and GRO bars although the system works differently (no bar fine so they have to get CP No's and meet later). I have heard tell of high class casas for locals only but cannot vouch for their veracity. Never met a Filipino who would admit to visiting a casa.
[QUOTE=ShadowAxis] Your safest option (in that area) is to play mall hunter and bag them in the eurotel (which has in wall safes for your wallet and cell phone). The shitbags who run the Malate bars don't do anything for the girls, or the neighborhood anyway. [/QUOTE]
My experiences have led me to a different conclusion. My one and only experience with a pick up from Robinson's Place Mall pulled a grab and dash when I took a moment out of the in-out-in-out action to relieve myself. Fortunately she only got about 1500 PHP, which I might have given her anyway if she'd stuck around long enough for me to finish. I have taken a few disappointing performers out of LA, but every woman I ever took out of there at least delivered what she promised.
GH swears by his conquests from Harrison Mall, but he may well have more game and a better figurative sense of smell than I have. Here's an important difference that I believe separates the LA freelancers from the mall walkers. The mix at LA has at least all the varieties that GH laid out, and, with the exception of those who are absolutely brand new or very rare visitors, these gals get to know each other a little. In addition, the Mamasans do ride herd on some of the girls. So what I observe is that they know they're in business, and they don't like girls who ruin the trade by ripping off customers.
One of the things that mongers here describe that distinguishes the Phils from other Southeast Asian mongering countries, is that you can often get a real GFE here. I have had this numerous times. I have had some wonderful GF experiences with women who'd been repeats for me. Part of why I repeated with them was because they'd been so affectionate and accommodating when I'd been with them before. One of them who seemed like one of the sharper knives in the drawer explained to me that she tried to be affectionate and pleasing because she figured it was good for business. She told me that she'd found that older Western men tended to be more gentle and more affectionate than other men, and so she tried especially hard to please men whom she wanted to have pick her up again. So this was her business sense, and it was essentially devoid of the kind of mercenary calculations one might expect.
I developed a friendship with one of the Mamasans at LA, and she pointed out a lot of stuff going on that passed beneath the radars of most of the male patrons. She warned me away from some women -- sometimes because she said I shouldn't trust one, or occasionally because she pointed out the ones with drug and booze habits. She wasn't merely steering me to her stable of fillies, because I only once took one of her girls. (Who happened to be probably the most attractive woman I ever took out of there, and later, quite without warning, proceeded to deliver a most wonderful deep throat.)
The management at LA does occasionally remove people for abusive behavior. When I've seen it occur it was typically a woman rather than a paying customer being shown the door.
Similarly, I got to know a number of the girls over time, many of whom I never took out. They were simply friends of women I had taken out. On several occasions, even after I'd selected a mate for the night, I'd sit and chat with them, and occasionally buy a few 75 peso sodas for them. They shared lots of warnings with me -- girls known to be sleazy, dishonest, or addicted.
My point is that, even though there were clearly some women there who shouldn't be trusted, the majority of women were part of a collectivity whose members cared about not polluting the water from which they all depended on fishing.
With mall girls, on the other hand, there is virtually no sense of community, no colleagues with a desire to protect their common interest. Furthermore, one of the reasons that some girls work the malls and the streets is that they've done things to wear out their welcome at LA, the G-Point, and other bars.
So, nasty as the environment and the selection at LA often is, there is nonetheless a sense of honor among the dishonorable.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost]I developed a friendship with one of the Mamasans at LA, and she pointed out a lot of stuff going on that passed beneath the radars of most of the male patrons. She warned me away from some women -- sometimes because she said I shouldn't trust one, or occasionally because she pointed out the ones with drug and booze habits. She wasn't merely steering me to her stable of fillies, because I only once took one of her girls. (Who happened to be probably the most attractive woman I ever took out of there, and later, quite without warning, proceeded to deliver a most wonderful deep throat.) [/QUOTE]
I have been in the LA Cafe over 100 times in the last two years and I have not yet met a Mamasan.
[QUOTE=Robbaf]I have been in the LA Cafe over 100 times in the last two years and I have not yet met a Mamasan.[/QUOTE]
There used to be loads ... but they caused mucho trouble, taking money off of the girls and charging the punters, so have largely being turfed out by the management, recently.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost]
GH swears by his conquests from Harrison Mall, but he may well have more game and a better figurative sense of smell than I have.[/QUOTE]
I have had a bit of success at mall trolling but it does require a lot of patience and a backup plan. The last 3 visits to Harrison Plaza, I left empty handed (except for a few boxes of cialis and some pirated Wii games:)), so its off to LA Cafe. If I don't see what I fancy, I repair to Robinsons Mall to try my luck there. If thats a washout, I go home and screw the dog;).
[QUOTE=Skip Kost]
One of the things that mongers here describe that distinguishes the Phils from other Southeast Asian mongering countries, is that you can often get a real GFE here. . [/QUOTE]
Yes this is the big draw for mongers in The Philippines.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost] ...because I only once took one of her girls. (Who happened to be probably the most attractive woman I ever took out of there, and later, quite without warning, proceeded to deliver a most wonderful deep throat.)
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This reminds me of a girl from a couple of weeks ago (report and masked photo posted [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=115317[/url]), who gave an astonishingly good deep throat. Very pretty lady too so could it be the same girl? Filipinas who can DT well are kinda rare.
[quote=skip kost]my experiences have led me to a different conclusion. my one and only experience with a pick up from robinson's place mall pulled a grab and dash when i took a moment out of the in-out-in-out action to relieve myself[/quote]that sucks, similar thing happened to me with a sw in new orleans. she nabbed a watch under the same circumstances and ran for her pimps cadillac. at least the wallet and cell phone were in the room safe. joke was on her though, she ran with an imitation rolex in lieu of waiting around to be paid.
i can see your point about community. perhaps the ones at the mall have been excluded from hunting at la for exactly the behavior you experienced? i have also seen men pissing into a canal upstream of the ladies doing the laundry – sometimes the locals just don't think ahead. there is certainly nothing about their education that teaches them to think critically. i always assume that any girl is capable of giving in to temptation – which is why (if i am carrying anything valuable) i use a wall safe or put it up on a super high shelf, out of sight, if that option is available. the best solution is to use fishbowl parlors like don pedro. the girls have condoms, know the game, and i have never been ripped off (or heard of anyone being ripped off). well – i suppose lousy service counts.
[quote=skip kost]gh swears by his conquests from harrison mall, but he may well have more game and a better figurative sense of smell than i have.[/quote]with few exceptions most of the girls i have seen working harrison (the second floor girls) are hags or possible **** but admittedly i haven't put the time into it. as gh experienced, shop girls seem like a good option but take some work and i'm usually not so patient. harrison is also the only mall i have seen pimps trying to hustle girls – so i assume taking any working girl out of harrison runs the risk of being trailed by some junior mac looking for an easy mark.
as for sense of community and gfe – the key thing to remember here is the community is all about the hustle and until you have been around long enough to understand most of the tagalog you hear – realize that the system of relationships, favors, utang, and gamesmanship has a single goal; to separate you from your money. that community will very easily pair a needy, in debt, or sick girl with a generous monger so she can cover her medical (or gambling) bills, or those of her aunties sisters nieces children, or to garner a future favor from the girls network. luckily for us, the locals have completely sold themselves on the notion of romantic salvation and the concept of a white knight. the locals also see themselves as a little sister of the usa. the us is close to the filipino heart and history. they see it as strongly possible that, if they romance the guy they may be lifted from poverty and even brought to the us. if you are a decent, educated white guy – and older is ok, your odds of a true gfe go through the roof. (you have so much in common compared to anyone else in asia) the average thai girl would have a hard time finding the us on a map, whereas the locals learn more about the us then you could possibly imagine. my gf for example, can name the capital cities of more states in the us than i can. my point is, a thai will assume the guy disappears forever and therefore she has a limited window of time to extract benefit whereas the filipina can mentally map a better life for herself and family through her new benefactor.
often you'll hear a filipina say she is "contented" with her man. the real translation of that word, in terms of how it is used is a combination of settled and secure – being happy, sexually gratified, and so forth doesn't factor into the translation. she will also say she doesn't understand why a man with a pretty girl (or a good woman) is not "contented" to stay with her. culturally, it's more important to be paired and respectable, to work as partners and be a team / business. this is where the girls are unmistakably asian (vs. spanish, mexican, italian) and you see that expressed as being "practical." usually used as "i'm a good girl, but in my situation i have to be practical."
wow – i am so over-thinking this. the real question is clear – what's it worth to have the 19 year old girl of your hustler honey dreams banging you into orgasmic oblivion? back in the us i would have parted with $300.00 or more for that – but instead, the ***** stole my watch. lol no matter what the circumstances are or how clever the girls – life is still good.
My M. O has always been to set things up a bit in advance, it takes away the cold sweat and worry of spending an hour or two fixing up the next assignment. So, arrived in Manila and knew that within 90 minutes of getting off the plane Gal 1 would be connected to me.
Gal 1 is a cute girl I found in a massage place (clean one with litle hanky panky offered, and as she doesn't really know how to give a HJ I'm guessing she doesn't offer too many " specials". Probably wrong tho. LOL. Met and scored with her last trip. Anyways shes 20, and had delayed a trip to province to be with me. How sweet. Met in nearby mall, took her to my condo, as no time for a Sogo trip, spent two hours connected deeply to her, then took her to bus station.
Meant I wouldn't have to worry about the " can I see you again" problem.
After that went to Burgos. Found an former bargirl there who I knew. We went to eat and chat in Owzat sports bar. I asked her why shes gained weight. She replies " I only eat rice, and sometimes eat cum.". Yeah. Nice gal LOL.
Anyways left there and went to another bar to see an old friend. She comes over and is all sweet etc. Ok honey, lets have the 5 drinks and do the VIP thing. At some point I asked her how old she is as I think I've known her for 4-5 years. She tells me shes now 21. Hmmm.
Home by midnight.
Next am met a hot prospect for breakfast. 25 year old and someone Id been chatting with for about 18 months but never met. Wow. She was tiny, but bubbly and really fun and funny and the sweet kiss when I dropped her at her work place made me realise she was there for the taking.
Wandered around Cinema square buying dvds then saw a sign for a spa. With nothing else to do and hours before my next appointment thought why not. The fact the spa has a sign outside stating " sexy girls needed as masseurs, onyl 18-24 need apply " was encouraging.
After 5 minutes the masseur told me I'm handsome and funny. After ten she tells me about her fathers ailments. After 12 she tells me can give me HJ. HJ was average but ok value at P 500. Anyways its nothing special but for those who need its opposite entrance to Cinema Square near the japanese restaurants (not Fuji Spa)
Had lunch then met another repeat from previous trip. A shy student girl whos 25. Had baby, normal story. Says I'm the only foreigner shes met. Anyways she arrives in nice high heels and short skirt as Id requested. Off to Sogo, she happliy dressed in the slinky tarty negligee I got her and we had our fun.
Dropped her back in the mall and off to Burgos again.
Somehow the little tiny pocket dynamo got invited to breakfast again and again we shared many laughs. Dropped her at work then I went to work for the day.
Bout 5pm I met my regular visitor from Pampanga arrived. Sits on a bus for 4 hours to spend night with me every time I'm in town. Stayed in a Makati avenue hotel, she wore all the trashy see thru clothes id got her (gold bikini, fishnets, suspenders, oepn crotch panties etc. Yeah I'm really tasteful I know. LOL) we had lots fun as always.
Dropped her the next am at bus station, then home to sleep.
Late afternoon I met the pocket dynamo for our "date". Went for drinks, dinner, went to Strumms and few places then back to my condo. 4 ft 11 but body was small perfect and nicely toned. She also cuddled up soooo nicely all night long. Had breakfast, dropped her off and thought now what shall I do.
Well that was easily answered as Gal number 1 had endured 12 hours on bus bak from her province to see me before I left. So I dropped off the pocket dynamo. And within 30 minutes am meeting the other one.
We did the usual, and she loved the g spot vibrator. Dropped her at the mall.
Got sms from bargirl. "please please can we meet, I like you so much" and then sms from second gal Id scored with. " I like you but think you only want sex so I will not see you again". Wow. Perceptive girl.!
Then back to condo and spent 30 minutes picking up stray female hair from all over the place. Checked the car for stray female hair (yes the wife surely checks! ) checked in at airport and flew home.
Another wonderful few days in Manila. I miss it already.
Am sure many of us regualr visitors are amazed with the well timed sms from someone we haven't spoken to in months. Who sends you an sms just as soon as you've landed.
On my most recent visit, I got two sms as I'm in the taxi leaving the airport. Both were from dogs who Id shagged and then forgotten. Both saying " Oh I just sent you an sms to see if you were in Manila ".
Do they spend all day sending sms to random guys hoping to hit pay dirt. Possibly. By the way for serial senders of sms (texts in Phils). If you're using a prepaid card, send UNLI20 to 258. All your sms will be free for the next 24 hours.
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]This reminds me of a girl from a couple of weeks ago (report and masked photo posted [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=115317[/url]), who gave an astonishingly good deep throat. Very pretty lady too so could it be the same girl? Filipinas who can DT well are kinda rare.[/QUOTE]
Can't tell from the photo. I think mine said she was about 22, and that was two years ago. Her story was that she was a fashion design student in some school in Makati. Her mother was in the states, California, I think. Mom sends her money but it wasn't enough to cover her tastes, so she supplements with takeouts from LA.
My experiences with mamasans were from about two years ago. More recently I've seen some homely older women who could have been mamasans -- or just well-worn stock.
Anyway, on that occasion mamasan and I had been chatting. There wasn't much else to do because it was a night with more men than women at LA. I'd already resigned myself to not being able to score that night. There were a couple Frenchmen at the high round table just inside the door on the right. One of mamasan's girls would come in the door (presumably from the last customer), she'd send her into the back, as though getting her to blend in briefly so nobody would notice how recently she'd come back from her last trick. Then a few minutes later mamasan would stroll over to the Frenchmen, presumably promising some hot new property. A minute later she sends the latest returnee over to the Frenchmen. A few minutes later they reject her, and back she goes into the darker area behind the bar. This happened several times.
I was just about to leave, and probably told mamasan so, when from somewhere back in the bar she calls out this tall, thin cutie and asks her to sit with me. I'm thinking, mamasan must like me to have sent this one over to me rather than the fussy Frenchmen. Or maybe she'd tired of trying to please them. I had strolled around the bar looking several times, and I had not seen this cutie.
We make small talk and then talk business. She told me she has to pay mamasan 200 php, and so her price was about that much more than the typical freelancer. From appearance alone she seemed worth it, so away we went. At some point she told me she worked with a mamasan because she wasn't confident enough to approach men on her own and expect to get the results she got from mamasan's matchmaking. I guess she was kinda shy, but only in the bar. She also told me she would not work with the other mamasans, because some of them expected excessive commissions (500 or more) and treated the girls badly.
Back at the hotel room she undressed to reveal tatas that were nicely shaped and bigger than I expected for such a thin woman. She seemed willing to let me DATY. She trembled a time or two, but may have faked it. Then she quickly reversed positions and drew me bb way back into her throat. She took all but about an inch, maybe less, which I can assure you put three or four inches into her throat. For a moment she wrapped two thin fingers around the little bit of shaft left between her mouth and my pubes. She proceeded in and out a few times, but not as long as I would have liked.
She asked me for a condom, applied it, then started up a deep plunge all the way down in a front cowgirl, and then went into a very vigorous combination of deep thrusts and rotating motions. It didn't last long -- for either one of us. We both just lay on our sides panting until we got our breath back.
I paid her and walked her back to about a block from LA. She said she would probably call it a night. I got something to eat and then happened to walk back past the front of LA about 90 minutes later. The same girl was returning to LA, hand in hand with another Western man. She gave me a sheepish look, as if to say, "yeah, I just did him in the time it took you to eat dinner and walk back past here." She'd told me earlier she'd already had one customer before me. She went back in to LA. It was maybe 11 pm, so apparently her night was still young. I'd say her arrangement with mamasan worked out very well for her.
Skip
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]
Anyways she arrives in nice high heels and short skirt as Id requested. Off to Sogo, she happliy dressed in the slinky tarty negligee I got her and we had our fun.
Stayed in a Makati avenue hotel, she wore all the trashy see thru clothes id got her (gold bikini, fishnets, suspenders, oepn crotch panties etc. Yeah I'm really tasteful I know. LOL).
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FF
Nice report and seems you plan well.
Must agree a monger can never 'accessorise' enough :D I also bring with me some heels (grreat FM ones) an am always able to make sure they fit the cuties - well I go after a certain size/weitgh soeasy now ;)
Lingerie, PVC also in my accessory bag but no serious toys as hard to bring back into the UAE nowadays but the odd butt plug is easy and great accessory that my cuites are fascinated about
Even given some advice here to newbies as to where to buy the FM heels...and my wardrobe of accessories is well stocked for the UAE Filipinas I see.
So tasteful ?- well in my view defintely :D
Have fun
How do you get to angeles city if yo fly into Manila, and what is a good hotel to stay?
Trip Report: Jun 1 ~ Jun 11, 2009.
My first trip to the Philippines.
I'd been corresponding online with a girl from Manila for the past year or so via Facebook. Though I normally live in Los Angeles, I've been in Seoul for over a month, and I figured, why not finally just visit Manila and bang this 21 year old chick?
So I started calling her, and we made plans to meet up. We were talking about touring Manila, possibly checking out Boracay together, and whatnot.
I then purchased my airline tickets, booked my hotel, and then decided to give her a call, literally about 16 hours before my flight was to depart. I was going to tell her I was arriving in a bit, and wanted to know if she would come out to the airport to meet me.
Well, when she answered the phone, she answered it crying, and I didn't know what she was saying (her English was OK, but hard to comprehend when crying). At one point I heard her say, "WHY YOU CALLING ME?" and anyway, the fact that she'd talk like that and cry and all this to me, it really turned me off.
I figured, there's no way in hell I'm going to see her now. I then only had a few hours to do research on what was available in Manila so I wouldn't be bored.
This forum came as a huge source of help, and I give thanks to ISG. Fortunately, it turns out the hotel I'd booked (the Lotus Garden in Ermita) was only a few minutes away from LA Cafe. Being on Padre Faura and A Mabini, I think it was only 3~4 blocks to LA Cafe.
Anyway, I arrived in Manila at my hotel around 2 PM, checked in, relaxed for a bit, and a few hours later, decided to head out. I found the infamous LA Cafe, went in, sat down, ordered a burger and took in the scene.
I did talk to a few girls, but I didn't find many of them attractive enough to bother with, so after about an hour and a half or so, I went back to the hotel. Later on at night, I went back to LA Cafe, and this time went to the back room, where they have the one pool table.
I sat there, ordered a bottle of Jose Cuervo, and started drinking. During the time a few girls talked to me, but again, none of them I cared to talk to. I had a few shots with the waitress, and I managed to talk to a Filipino guy who was sitting nearby. We ended up doing some shots, and he introduced me to his wife, and then we started playing some pool.
Later on, as we're getting buzzed, the guy (he says his name is Charles) says he wants to introduce me to his wife's friend. I forgot her name, but he pointed her out, and she was actually a very pretty girl. One of the top 5% in all of LA Cafe.
We started doing shots together, and after a while, him and his wife start joking that I should take her out and have fun. Anyway, eventually I do it, and the girl tells me to tip 'Charles' like 200 pesos... which I did.
So the two of us walk back to my hotel, and on the way there, I was harassed by a homeless woman who wouldn't stop following me, so I threw her 20 pesos and she went away.
Long story short (is it too late for that?), we got back to my room, and normally I take a shower before doing anything, but this time, no. We went right at it, and there was some DFK, BBBJ, a few positions, and it was fairly 'passionate'.
Afterwards, she took a shower, and after she came back out, I fell asleep around that time.
Now, the confusing thing is the next morning, when I only had 1,200 pesos in my wallet. I wasn't sure how much I was supposed to pay her. I figured I'd just give her everything in my wallet, which was 1,200 pesos (I spent the rest on the tequila and whatnot from the previous night, and my foreign currency, as well as all my other valuables were in the hotel safe downstairs).
She had a disappointed look, but took it. I feel kind of bad, but she didn't complain or anything, so I figured maybe it's alright. Anyway, later that night, I saw her at LA Cafe again, playing pool, but she didn't acknowledge me at all.
Later on, as I found out what the going rate was (apparently about 2,000), I felt bad about it, and wanted to give her an extra 1,000 if I ever saw her again, which I didn't (though to be honest, the latter 3/4 of my trip I always went straight upstairs at LA Cafe).
I ended up picking up a total of four girls at LA Cafe during my 10 days.
Girl #1 - Paid her 1,200. Felt bad about it later. Facially speaking, she was probably the prettiest one of all the girls. Bodywise, I couldn't tell much because the first night she had one of those dresses on that could cover a stomach. The second time I saw her I could see she had a tiny belly, but no big deal.
Girl #2 - Paid her 2,000/day. Had her for three days. Her name is Jing (or Jing Jing). 31 years old. Her real name is something like Verna or something. Fairly attractive face, dark, looks Chinese mixed, spinner. Met her downstairs at the circular bar. Chose her because she said she loves Korean food, and I wanted someone to eat Korean food with. She wasn't exactly the best lover, and as soon as we'd finish 'doing it', she'd always fall asleep (or pretend to) right away, and would always sleep facing away from me. Did not do much DFK, more like LFK for a few seconds when doing missionary only. Not sure why I spent so much time with her. GFE, if you want to see it as a girl you've dated for a long time and she's somewhat disgusted with you at times. Positive thing about her is that she is honest, and gave lots of good advice for dealing with LA Cafe and the surrounding area (like money changers, taxi drivers, etc). She also voluntarily gave her ID to the hotel staff as we walked in, telling me, "for your security".
Girl #3 - Paid her 2,500. Met her upstairs, intro'd by Mamasan. Her name is Tricia, she seemed to have nice big titties, but of course when I actually saw them, they were just supported very well by her bra. Body was decent enough, but far from perfect. She was fairly pretty. She gave a pretty good GFE as well. Lots of DFK during the act, and very warm and cuddly when sleeping. She woke me up around 7 AM saying she had to leave. Saw her in LA Cafe the other two days I was there after meeting her, but didn't speak with her.
Girl #4 - Paid her 2,500/day. Had her for three days. Met her upstairs. Initially, the Mamasan intro'd me to a girl who I thought was very cute and very doable, and was very very flirty with me. I then asked to see her ID, and she said she didn't have any. Anyway, that freaked me out, and she then told me that she did have a guest two weeks prior (a Korean, like me) who she was stopped with by police, near the Hyatt, and she had no ID, and the Korean had to pay the cop like 5,000 pesos.
She then said she had a friend who had ID, and told Mamasan to bring her friend, who was out on her first day back to LA Cafe after a three year hiatus. This girl was fairly attractive, and a total spinner. I like spinners, but I like spinners that are busty. She wasn't busty, but good enough.
Long story short, she was working at LA Cafe about three years ago, but due to too many bad experiences (getting robbed, beaten, etc) she stopped. It is only due to her mother recently being hospitalized and released that she came back temporarily.
She also has a 2 year old child with her first boyfriend, a Korean man, who is nowhere to be found now. Anyway, I spent the last three of my last four days with her (the second night I wanted her, she was not at LA Cafe, so I took out Girl #3 from this report instead). The second time I met her, I got her number.
Anyway, I gave her 2,500 PHP the first two days. The last day I gave her 5,000 PHP. I am not in love with this girl by any means, nor do I have strong feelings for her, and while not exactly the best in bed, she is a nice and subservient girl and possibly someone I can be with for a fairly good number of years. Long-term GF material, I think.
I've been with many working girls, and have seen/worked with many, and they rarely come as 'pure-hearted' as her. So while emotionally I may not be all that attached to her or have strong feelings for her, she's a very good choice if you look at it pragmatically (apart from the kid, but I'm not marrying her) as she is thin (a must), conservative, soft spoken, hard working, submissive, good-hearted.
Anybody else have experience with a girl in the Phils? Taking one on as GF material?
Anyway, I also wanted to state that I was reading a Korean newspaper in Manila, the Sunday Journal, and saw some adverts for a KTV nearby. I checked it out, went several times.
The pricing is basically 500 PHP per hour for the lady time charge, and beers are from 100~130 PHP depending on whether you want San Mig Light or Pilsen. Johnny Walker Black was 3,000 PHP. A fruit plate is like 800 PHP.
Basically if two guys went there and spent about two hours there (1000 PHP each), drinking about 10 beers altogether (1000 PHP) and sharing a fruit plate (800 PHP), then the total would come out to 3,800 PHP. On top of that, maybe if you wanted to tip the girl, let's say... 300 PHP each, and maybe 100 PHP to the waiter. Your total comes to 4,500 PHP for two guys. 2,250 PHP each person for two hours of fun at a KTV.
I went about three times, and went alone each time. However, I never took a girl out from there. The charge to take the girls out for some hotel action is 5,000 PHP! Wow... That's on top of whatever you paid for drinks and whatnot at the KTV... so your total night's cost could come out to over 7,000 PHP when all is said and done.
The thing is, I didn't find the girls at the KTV to be any more prettier than the girls at LA Cafe. Well, to be fair, there were maybe 2 stunners at the KTV, and one was an absolute stunner (very beautiful face with huge triple D breasts on a thin frame), but for the most part, you're better off at LA Cafe.
I didn't check out any other spots in Manila, like Makati's Burgos St or EDSA or whatever, but if any mongers would like to get together next time and maybe show me the ropes and share some stories, that would be great.
I also noticed some cabbies telling me about apartment girls. What exactly are 'apartment girls'? Sounds interesting, as we have something similar in Korea, but we call them 'officetel girls', but I'm not sure if it's the same system.
Thanks, and that is my first report on the Phils!
PS: The Lotus Garden Hotel is girl friendly, as they never asked me to pay any joiner fee or anything; then again, when I checked-in they asked me if the room was for one, I replied, "maybe two". I did get very disapproving looks from one of the female staff there, but everyone else seemed pretty cool.
Thanks for the detailed report. I linked it to Reports of Distinction. I don't think what you paid for overnighters was far off if it was off at all. Not sure about people getting certain women in LA for 1000-1500 long time. I guess you can get it from the not so good looking ones and stuff which make up more than the average there, but you can't put that price on the higher tier women there I think. Unless they are desperate and maybe real late, I think the better looking ones will dismiss someone for such an offer. Of course, if you see them more than once and they like you, things change and can get a lot cheaper.
Not sure where all this mamasan action is there. I've gone so much and very very rarely see anything at all like that in there. Most of the time it's for some of the new women there but the majority of them don't have anything like that. Next time you might want to mix it up a little bit and go check out the other venues just to get a gauge of other things. I'd be interested to hear what you did during the day and if you took your dates anywhere else besides your hotel.
Monger Date 11 June 09
Mongers Night Out:
Hit EDSA last night with a fellow monger from another forum Mccawff. (Mccawff cool as the other side of the pillow)
Burgos Vs EDSA:
The talent level from Burgos is night and day. Even Stevie Wonder can see the difference between the talent levels. I was kind of taken back by the drop off from Burgos the other night. Whoever coined the phrase you get what you pay for was not bullshitting. This shit was like going from Filet Mignon to Plankton. I mean in Burgos every bar I seen had a couple of stunners. At EDSA shit was like combing the Sahara for a pop corn Kernel WOW!
Firehouse:
Hooked up with Mccawff at Firehouse and chilled for minute. The guy had women hanging off every limb. Me I seen a girl on stage that was kind of cute but she had no tits. So I started looking around the room but before long a vet came and set by me but I was not interested in her so I kept scanning the room when I spotted one of Mccawff’s girlfriend’s friends. She had some nice tits and was easy on the eyes. We chatted with each and felt each other up for while before I told her I was going to barhop and me and Mccawff hit the door.
Casino:
There were a couple of girls in here that I would not have mind barfining. There was one girl there back in Feb that I wanted didn’t see her and the hip hop DJ that was there has also changed bars or his tune.
Pit Stop:
Same sit. Nice girls but not really any eye candy.
Cotton Club:
Had few drinks bought a cool Mamasan a drink. They have a couple of lookers there was one that had that “I just discovered the bar” look, shy hiding behind the other girls no stretch marks etc. I tipped her 50PHP hit the door.
Firehouse Revisited:
The night was getting old so I hit Fire house and barfined the girl I had been chatting with earlier with the decent rack.
The Hotel:
Booked a room across the street at the Heritage. The hotel is overpriced. Basic room rust around the tub drain etc.
Warning:
Trying to cross the street over to EDSA from Heritage is not as simple as it looks. If you try to cross straight it is blocked so you have to walk to one of the intersections which is quite far from the Heritage lobby doors. I walked for a while until I realized how far the intersection was and how much attention my diamond earring was getting.
The Room:
What made me really barfine this girl was her ability to speak English. It was flawless. No Filipino accent just straight articulate English. She said she was a Uni-student. Once we got to the room she just set on the edge of bed so I made the first move and she made the rest (removing boxers) I could tell she was very comfortable with herself and the first session was passionate/hard with her screaming like she was dying but the problem arose after the first fuck as in her words “I am normally go with Japanese and I am very poised around them but your just too big.” ARRRGH starting to get tired of this shit don’t know if they using it to waft out of multiple fucks or just telling the truth. I offered at her a tip just to experience that wild passionate fucking and sounds she made but she would not budge. After trying to coax another fuck out of her she gave me a BBBJ and then strapped on the ultra-thin Trojan and I hit the bottom of her pussy again.
After that she gave me her number and bailed as she said she had classes the next day. Me…Checked out of the Heritage took the long taxi ride home, had interesting conversation about Real-estate in Manila with the driver. Set down and checked out the forums….
Title taken from hit song by Psychedelic new group MGMT
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PM me and I'll give you the email address of a friend in Firehouse. I'm sure she can get a message to the girl you are trying to contact. She might even be able to get the girl's cell number for you if you want and then you can call her directly. I don't think the owner, Tony, will be too keen on using his business phone to assist with linking up his employees with their friends.
[QUOTE=Visi001]Does anyone have the phone number of the Firehouse in EDSA Entertainment Complex? Need to contact a girl there.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Monger Date 14 June 09
Twilight Zone:
Stopped off in the Greenbelt to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and seen the same dude with the 7 inch center spike hairstyle from last week in the same spot doing the same shit whoa twilight zone type shit right there.
Manila Taxi Drivers:
Normally I try not talk to these guys just pay what’s on the meter and bail but when I got in this taxi the guy as usual offered to take to me some places where he gets a commission and I declined but then he said something that caught my attention he said he would take care of me because he was Black also. What? So I focused in on him and show nough nappy ass hair, dark skin complexion yep. Said his father was an U.S. Airman and as usual bare-backed his way around fun land and went home when his tour was up and forgot him… said he contacted (letters/phone calls) the guy repeatedly to try and get the guy to at least grant him citizenship so he could provide a better life for himself and his family but the guy just basically ignored him (sad shit.
L.A. Café:
Wanted to see how the Café was doing since the bars are on life support. I got there kind of early and it was empty at first but started to fill up about an hour later. Way more women than men though. Went in and went straight up stairs (where it is normally less people). Ordered a San Miguel and was being flirted with left and right by the waitresses at bar. Sat down for a minute and scoped the scene didn’t see anything that stood out so then went to the front of the upstairs area where the live band was playing was immediately spotted by L.A. Fuck Machine from February. She came right over and said I can’t remember your name but I remember you from the bed…LOL she asked did I want to join her and her friends for a drink but I declined.
Right after she left two girls came and stood by me and they were OK. 5 mins later one told me her friend was interested in me. The friend was nothing special and had a big mole on her face. I just smiled at them and that was that.
That Girl:
Apparently there was a third girl with the other two and as soon my monger radar locked on all I could hear was Stevie Wonder’s song “That Girl” Playing in my head LOL. Man the outfit she had on was banging and she had some legs to die for and a bubbly smile. She walked right by me and I looked at her like a Pit bull trained by Micheal Vick but she looked straight ahead and went right into the ladies room. When she came out I was about to approach her when I was beaten by an older monger and to add insult to injury he was Brotha from Cali LOL.
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One thing though. When she came out of the ladies room this time she looked at me with a shy but flirty direct stare. So I played it cool and just chilled. I sized up the competition. Realized he didn’t have snowball’s chance in hell.
She told him to curve and I went over to her and we chilled and danced like hell had a few drinks etc. I knew it was going to be a fun night :) went to the bathroom and when I came out seen the dude trying his luck again while I was gone. Again no luck. So I her told maybe we should continue drinking in my hotel room and we were off.
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The Room:
Got another room at the Dusit as it has become my favorite short-time spot in Manila (cheap but extremely nice for a 5 star hotel.) and it was fireworks from the moment the door closed. Girl had more sexual energy than a crack-head drinking a Red Bull BOWSERS! Multiple sessions, BBBJ, BL, BYL etc... passionate in every position. She stopped me once “Take my back.” What? She said back she meant doggy from there hammered me and her both home.
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Pillow Talk:
Discovered she had lived aboard and normally goes with Asian guys but said she just liked my style and begged me to contact her again. Nice girl and nice night.
Only In Manila:
While trying to catch a taxi home I was bombarded by two Filipinos offering me a girl working at the counter of the Seven-Eleven behind me. "She is nice and cute take a look"....I didn't at this point was trying to just get home.
Social Studies:
Now I am not bragging about pulling a WG from my man as this is about as hard to do as breathing but what I saw was by his clothes he seemed like he just didn't give a damn and thats what did it for her. Guys think just because they are hookers they can smell, and not dress properly. We all looking for something nice this is why we monger and they are too (plus money).
Guys I must admit I am holding out on the photos the ones I took might identify her sooo...
My best friend and I arrive in Manila on a flight at midnight. Both have been there but this is our last trip. We want it to be the ultimate. We both like barely legal beauties. Slender and pretty.
We are there 3 nights 2 days, and want to fuck our asses off. Maybe 3 or 4 girls a day.
Plan.
1. Arrive midnight, go to L. A cafe pick up an allnighter, go to hotel.
2. Wake up, kick the girl out, breakfast? Need I deas for the rest of the trip.
Price is not an issue. I have about 5 freebies lined up but as this is my last trip I want to spend it with young models. Price not an issue but ideally spend less that 2000 peso for a model, and for a 10/10, 18 year old I would be willing to pay more.
Might try a place called "Air Force 1" But what I really want are some ideas from the regulars how to have the BEST 3 days of our life. Please give me some ideas.
P. S I heard about some entertainment complex, but there is barfine 1500, Girl negotiable, + entrace fee, + expensive girl drinks etc Adds up to 3 grand for a beer and a girl. Seems expensive compared to L. A where you can find a nice girl for 1000-2000.
Ideas, and instrustions please.
I wonder what is everyone ideal of an 'absolute stunner' that they have been with and have pics of to prove. I hear this is people's threads and then I look at the pic posted and it does NOT match, at least to me it doesn't. I only curious though. I don't have any because I haven't been with any stunners in the PI yet. In my Dec. Trip report, I complain about this, the fact that I couldn't find any absolute drop dead gorgeous women when I visited Cebu and Angeles city. I was only in Manila for a couple of days so I only visited LA Cafe but I plan on visiting everywhere for my next trip.
[QUOTE=Fukslut]Price is not an issue. I have about 5 freebies lined up but as this is my last trip I want to spend it with young models. Price not an issue but ideally spend less that 2000 peso for a model, and for a 10/10, 18 year old I would be willing to pay more.[/QUOTE]Good luck with that, I would also like to to find the same deal. The hotties at LA want 2, 000-3, 000 ST and I'm talking 7-8.5s NOT 10's. Never saw what I considered a 9 or 10.
If you look like Brad Pitt you can can get whatever you wish for. At my age with with my looks. I'd be lucky to get a MILF.
[QUOTE=Laylow3]I wonder what is everyone ideal of an 'absolute stunner' that they have been with and have pics of to prove. I hear this is people's threads and then I look at the pic posted and it does NOT match, at least to me it doesn't. I only curious though. I don't have any because I haven't been with any stunners in the PI yet. In my Dec. Trip report, I complain about this, the fact that I couldn't find any absolute drop dead gorgeous women when I visited Cebu and Angeles city. I was only in Manila for a couple of days so I only visited LA Cafe but I plan on visiting everywhere for my next trip.[/QUOTE]
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. A stunner to me, might be a "Prawn" to you. I don't look for stunners, I look for someone I click with.
Prawn (Shrimp): What do you do to a shrimp? tear off the head and eat the body:D
[QUOTE=Laylow3]I wonder what is everyone ideal of an 'absolute stunner' that they have been with and have pics of to prove. I hear this is people's threads and then I look at the pic posted and it does NOT match, at least to me it doesn't. I only curious though. I don't have any because I haven't been with any stunners in the PI yet. In my Dec. Trip report, I complain about this, the fact that I couldn't find any absolute drop dead gorgeous women when I visited Cebu and Angeles city. I was only in Manila for a couple of days so I only visited LA Cafe but I plan on visiting everywhere for my next trip.[/QUOTE]If you want to see working girl stunners then you to go to Pegasus or one of the other high end ktvs Burgos got talent but other then that most of them are average. Non working stunners hang out in Makati greenbelt feel free to go there and try your luck.
The other night I had eye candy from Burgos In bed she was average. Now who am I in the lobby of the Dusit waiting on as I type this?..... The average girl from LA I just posted about because she fucking put it down in the bed room......
[QUOTE=Robbaf]Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. A stunner to me, might be a "Prawn" to you. I don't look for stunners, I look for someone I click with.
Prawn (Shrimp): What do you do to a shrimp? tear off the head and eat the body:D[/QUOTE]Well said Robbaf. The older I get the more I realise that I want a girl with me who I can obviously bed, but also one that can make jokes and make me laugh and one that I enjoy being with.
One that I can just pay and bonk requires no skill and has little interest for me. However ones that are smiling and laughing as her panties are descending are much more fun. And its also much more likely that I return for a rematch.
Thats why YM or MSN is best place to have the "interview" to ensure that there will at least be elements of " clicking ". For me, its tried and tested method.
[QUOTE=Laylow3]I wonder what is everyone ideal of an 'absolute stunner' that they have been with and have pics of to prove. I hear this is people's threads and then I look at the pic posted and it does NOT match, at least to me it doesn't. I only curious though. I don't have any because I haven't been with any stunners in the PI yet. In my Dec. Trip report, I complain about this, the fact that I couldn't find any absolute drop dead gorgeous women when I visited Cebu and Angeles city. I was only in Manila for a couple of days so I only visited LA Cafe but I plan on visiting everywhere for my next trip.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Laylow3]I wonder what is everyone ideal of an 'absolute stunner' that they have been with and have pics of to prove. I hear this is people's threads and then I look at the pic posted and it does NOT match, at least to me it doesn't. I only curious though. I don't have any because I haven't been with any stunners in the PI yet. In my Dec. Trip report, I complain about this, the fact that I couldn't find any absolute drop dead gorgeous women when I visited Cebu and Angeles city. I was only in Manila for a couple of days so I only visited LA Cafe but I plan on visiting everywhere for my next trip.[/QUOTE]
There are many stunners in Manila, but unfortunately, only very few of them working in the trade. For 300 years the Spanish were here, they certainly left behind some very exotic Mestiza (mixblood). The stunners are hit and miss even in the high end clubs like Pegasus. I did have the luck of sampling a young stunner at a club on Quezon Ave. whose name escape me, a beautiful long legged 21 yrs Mestiza of German Father and Pinay mother. But like I said, if you only hit these clubs once in a while, your chance of running into one of the stunners is not so great. If I have time, I normally do club hoping on Quezon Ave.. If I don’t see any one I like which happened quite often, I move to the next club until I found the suitable.
Monger Date 17 June 09
The Greenbelt: Manila Geography 101
The Greenbelt. For the less informed it’s an area located in Makati Manila’s Central Business District (What I like to call the Beverly Hills of the Philippines). The Place is surrounded by 5 Star hotels, Luxurious condominiums, plush restaurants and upscale shopping outlets, Gucci, Lacoste you get my drift.
There is a covered outdoor patio-like area where the hi-society Filipinos and six-figure expats, Call Center Managers etc go to congregate and shoot the breeze.
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I always start my nights off at the Greenbelt. Hopped out my personal-driver taxi made my way through the entrance door of the Greenbelt mall across from the Renaissance hotel and as always was amazed. The place makes you forget you are in the Philippines. You see too much money…the wealth of the place and the patrons is apparent.
While walking towards the ATM couldn’t help but notice all the beautiful white women out and about, expats, tourist, etc. Managed get stuck behind a brunette who had on a loose fitting evening gown and an ass that could have won the horse awards what a sight.
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Hot Date: Well Sort OF
I had no time to waste as in about 30 mins I was meeting LA fuck (from my last post) machine part 2 at the Dusit Hotel again. I normally never follow up with WGs( she was only second follow up last one Dubai 05') as I like the thrill of something new and not knowing what to expect but she was too bubbly, too wild, in the bedroom and too sex crazy not to fuck again.
The Lobby Of The Dusit:
Sat in the lobby for her anticipated arrival and watched the patrons come go. Suspected working girls, Koreans, Japanese, Suit and tie Caucasians and guys who look like they just got finished hunting Possum with Billy Bob etc.
Found out they had wireless and managed to browse the forum from the smart phone. 10 mins later text message. “I am there now.”
My mind is racing what does she look now? What is she wearing? Will she be dressed casual? Or will she be wearing something so slutty I will be embarrassed to be seen in this 5 Star hotel with her?
Taxi appears and She exits and while she wasn’t dressed extremely slutty :D any discerning eye could have guessed what she did for a living, Tight jeans, way too much make up cut back shirt you smell what I am cooking.
The Room:
I am asking how you been? What you been up to? Are you hungry? The entire time she is undressing. Then she says “Yeah I am hungry I want your hot dog!” :D
Once again wild night multiple sessions BBBJ, BL, BYL, etc. but then I thought to myself she deserved the hucklebuck.
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Now anyone can do the huklebuck but to do it standing takes stamina and strength. At first she didn’t know what I was doing but once I got into position her pussy (increased juice) and eyes told me she was impressed. After this we both collapsed on the bed. “Wow I never done that before.” LOL “Can you do it again.” We fell asleep but I awoke her with Alabama black snake in midnight.
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A Monger’s Greatest Fear:
I just spoke about this in the Dubai photo gallery. Say its name and it will come LOL. What’s a monger’s greatest fear? Besides Disease, strong-arm robbery and theft she whipped out the camera phone and asked me could she have a photo. Hell to the nawl. I felt a little bad about though after she was so photogenic for me :)
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Exodus:
Had some financial matters to attend to early morning. Told her it was check out time.
While trying to catch my own taxi I saw her getting in a taxi than she got out. I walked up asked was everything OK. She said “Bad Taxi.” Whatever the fuck that means.
Then I told her take care and walked off to continue my search for my own taxi. Ignored the Zoo-like stares from passer-byers managed to flag down a taxi took the long ride home.
Smart phone vibrates…text message: “I had a good time. Don’t forget me.”
Horse awards? Damn, I thought you were talking about a horse's ass!
x
[QUOTE=Illogic]Monger Date 17 June 09
The Greenbelt: Manila Geography 101
The Greenbelt. For the less informed it’s an area located in Makati Manila’s Central Business District (What I like to call the Beverly Hills of the Philippines). The Place is surrounded by 5 Star hotels, Luxurious condominiums, plush restaurants and upscale shopping outlets, Gucci, Lacoste you get my drift.
There is a covered outdoor patio-like area where the hi-society Filipinos and six-figure expats, Call Center Managers etc go to congregate and shoot the breeze.
[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shoot+the+breeze[/url]
I always start my nights off at the Greenbelt. Hopped out my personal-driver taxi made my way through the entrance door of the Greenbelt mall across from the Renaissance hotel and as always was amazed. The place makes you forget you are in the Philippines. You see too much money…the wealth of the place and the patrons is apparent.
While walking towards the ATM couldn’t help but notice all the beautiful white women out and about, expats, tourist, etc. Managed get stuck behind a brunette who had on a loose fitting evening gown and an ass that could have won the horse awards what a sight.
[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=horse+ass[/url]
Hot Date: Well Sort OF
I had no time to waste as in about 30 mins I was meeting LA fuck (from my last post) machine part 2 at the Dusit Hotel again. I normally never follow up with WGs( she was only second follow up last one Dubai 05') as I like the thrill of something new and not knowing what to expect but she was too bubbly, too wild, in the bedroom and too sex crazy not to fuck again.
The Lobby Of The Dusit:
Sat in the lobby for her anticipated arrival and watched the patrons come go. Suspected working girls, Koreans, Japanese, Suit and tie Caucasians and guys who look like they just got finished hunting Possum with Billy Bob etc.
Found out they had wireless and managed to browse the forum from the smart phone. 10 mins later text message. “I am there now.”
My mind is racing what does she look now? What is she wearing? Will she be dressed casual? Or will she be wearing something so slutty I will be embarrassed to be seen in this 5 Star hotel with her?
Taxi appears and She exits and while she wasn’t dressed extremely slutty :D any discerning eye could have guessed what she did for a living, Tight jeans, way too much make up cut back shirt you smell what I am cooking.
The Room:
I am asking how you been? What you been up to? Are you hungry? The entire time she is undressing. Then she says “Yeah I am hungry I want your hot dog!” :D
Once again wild night multiple sessions BBBJ, BL, BYL, etc. but then I thought to myself she deserved the hucklebuck.
[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=huklebuck[/url]
Now anyone can do the huklebuck but to do it standing takes stamina and strength. At first she didn’t know what I was doing but once I got into position her pussy (increased juice) and eyes told me she was impressed. After this we both collapsed on the bed. “Wow I never done that before.” LOL “Can you do it again.” We fell asleep but I awoke her with Alabama black snake in midnight.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6Ep1nmwWU0[/url]
[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=alabama+black+snake[/url]
A Monger’s Greatest Fear:
I just spoke about this in the Dubai photo gallery. Say its name and it will come LOL. What’s a monger’s greatest fear? Besides Disease, strong-arm robbery and theft she whipped out the camera phone and asked me could she have a photo. Hell to the nawl. I felt a little bad about though after she was so photogenic for me :)
[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nawl[/url]
Exodus:
Had some financial matters to attend to early morning. Told her it was check out time.
While trying to catch my own taxi I saw her getting in a taxi than she got out. I walked up asked was everything OK. She said “Bad Taxi.” Whatever the fuck that means.
Then I told her take care and walked off to continue my search for my own taxi. Ignored the Zoo-like stares from passer-byers managed to flag down a taxi took the long ride home.
Smart phone vibrates…text message: “I had a good time. Don’t forget me.”[/QUOTE]
Wow, Illogic that was some stunner girl you had...great report.
I wonder if you had been to Cebu and checked out Arena and jaguar bars. With the kind of girl you show in the pics, you will not be disappointed with these two korean owned bars in Cebu.
I have been to Pegasus and the bars in Burgus, LA cafe, EDSA and malate bars...but it does not seem to match up with Cebu bars in terms off quality and size.
Ok i say now...I have to admit, the two reasons that i thought i would come to Manila than Cebu was infact my wrong conclusion that if Cebu has so much to offer than Manila being the capital and soo big..it would be spectacular....how wroung and another reason was to get lost in the maze of people in Manila so that my dating with regular girls would not be caught up with time and people wont easily recognise me with different women which happned to me couple of times in Cebu.
More and more i spend time in Manila, the more i miss the Cebu scene.
I'm guessing if you havent checked Cebu, you would be missing one of the greatest spectacle in the Philiphines. As money seems to be less issue in mongering for you.
The first time i visited these two bars i become obssesed and still dream about it, i made one hell of a mistake. As soon as my contract with the condo expires im moving back to Cebu.
I just happen to check these two bars by chance as you will never hear about these bars as it seems, there is a constant group of some expat mongers here who support bars owned by expats no matter what.
Case in point LA cafe in manila and sun flower in cebu......these two bars have been loathed so much that...every monger measure the credibility of other bars with how much it can come to terms with these two bars.
How unfair and untrue....I'm sure many mongers who come to Philiphines rate it by visiting bars owned by expats ...not their fault..their is so much hidden marketing going on that...a newbie monger would never know what is good and what is bad.
When ever i wrote about these two bars..which are owned by Koreans, i used to get a constant negative critisism excusing that the drinks are expensive, bar fine is high, you can get the same quality of girls everywhere etc etc...none of which are true...like i said expat will compare the price of expat owned bars and say ohh its expensive..
If one wants a sea of quality with fair price Cebu bars which are not owned by expats is the place to go.
I had a blissfull experience visiting bars in Cebu..best days of my life....the place itself is so peaceful and magical.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-sffQD-cfI[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1rTbmqytw8[/url]
Above are youtube links to dancers in Jaguar bars...its not clear, still you will get an idea of the girls.
The reason i wrote so much is the best girls in philiphines deserve the best mongers in the business :D....I would love to read your take on these two bars
Good Luck
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]Wow, Illogic that was some stunner girl you had...great report.
I wonder if you had been to Cebu and checked out Arena and jaguar bars. With the kind of girl you show in the pics, you will not be disappointed with these two korean owned bars in Cebu.
I have been to Pegasus and the bars in Burgus, LA cafe, EDSA and malate bars...but it does not seem to match up with Cebu bars in terms off quality and size.
Ok i say now...I have to admit, the two reasons that i thought i would come to Manila than Cebu was infact my wrong conclusion that if Cebu has so much to offer than Manila being the capital and soo big..it would be spectacular....how wroung and another reason was to get lost in the maze of people in Manila so that my dating with regular girls would not be caught up with time and people wont easily recognise me with different women which happned to me couple of times in Cebu.
More and more i spend time in Manila, the more i miss the Cebu scene.
I'm guessing if you havent checked Cebu, you would be missing one of the greatest spectacle in the Philiphines. As money seems to be less issue in mongering for you.
The first time i visited these two bars i become obssesed and still dream about it, i made one hell of a mistake. As soon as my contract with the condo expires im moving back to Cebu.
I just happen to check these two bars by chance as you will never hear about these bars as it seems, there is a constant group of some expat mongers here who support bars owned by expats no matter what.
Case in point LA cafe in manila and sun flower in cebu......these two bars have been loathed so much that...every monger measure the credibility of other bars with how much it can come to terms with these two bars.
How unfair and untrue....I'm sure many mongers who come to Philiphines rate it by visiting bars owned by expats ...not their fault..their is so much hidden marketing going on that...a newbie monger would never know what is good and what is bad.
When ever i wrote about these two bars..which are owned by Koreans, i used to get a constant negative critisism excusing that the drinks are expensive, bar fine is high, you can get the same quality of girls everywhere etc etc...none of which are true...like i said expat will compare the price of expat owned bars and say ohh its expensive..
If one wants a sea of quality with fair price Cebu bars which are not owned by expats is the place to go.
I had a blissfull experience visiting bars in Cebu..best days of my life....the place itself is so peaceful and magical.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-sffQD-cfI[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1rTbmqytw8[/url]
Above are youtube links to dancers in Jaguar bars...its not clear, still you will get an idea of the girls.
The reason i wrote so much is the best girls in philiphines deserve the best mongers in the business :D....I would love to read your take on these two bars
Good Luck[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the kudos means a lot. Jaguar huh? I will Siskel and Ebert (check it out) it soon....stay tuned....
[QUOTE=Illogic]Monger Date 17 June 09
The Greenbelt: Manila Geography 101
The Greenbelt. For the less informed it’s an area located in Makati Manila’s Central Business District (What I like to call the Beverly Hills of the Philippines). The Place is surrounded by 5 Star hotels, Luxurious condominiums, plush restaurants and upscale shopping outlets, Gucci, Lacoste you get my drift.
There is a covered outdoor patio-like area where the hi-society Filipinos and six-figure expats, Call Center Managers etc go to congregate and shoot the breeze.
[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shoot+the+breeze[/url]
I always start my nights off at the Greenbelt. Hopped out my personal-driver taxi made my way through the entrance door of the Greenbelt mall across from the Renaissance hotel and as always was amazed. The place makes you forget you are in the Philippines. You see too much money…the wealth of the place and the patrons is apparent.
While walking towards the ATM couldn’t help but notice all the beautiful white women out and about, expats, tourist, etc. Managed get stuck behind a brunette who had on a loose fitting evening gown and an ass that could have won the horse awards what a sight.
[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=horse+ass[/url]
Hot Date: Well Sort OF
I had no time to waste as in about 30 mins I was meeting LA fuck (from my last post) machine part 2 at the Dusit Hotel again. I normally never follow up with WGs( she was only second follow up last one Dubai 05') as I like the thrill of something new and not knowing what to expect but she was too bubbly, too wild, in the bedroom and too sex crazy not to fuck again.
The Lobby Of The Dusit:
Sat in the lobby for her anticipated arrival and watched the patrons come go. Suspected working girls, Koreans, Japanese, Suit and tie Caucasians and guys who look like they just got finished hunting Possum with Billy Bob etc.
Found out they had wireless and managed to browse the forum from the smart phone. 10 mins later text message. “I am there now.”
My mind is racing what does she look now? What is she wearing? Will she be dressed casual? Or will she be wearing something so slutty I will be embarrassed to be seen in this 5 Star hotel with her?
Taxi appears and She exits and while she wasn’t dressed extremely slutty :D any discerning eye could have guessed what she did for a living, Tight jeans, way too much make up cut back shirt you smell what I am cooking.
The Room:
I am asking how you been? What you been up to? Are you hungry? The entire time she is undressing. Then she says “Yeah I am hungry I want your hot dog!” :D
Once again wild night multiple sessions BBBJ, BL, BYL, etc. but then I thought to myself she deserved the hucklebuck.
[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=huklebuck[/url]
Now anyone can do the huklebuck but to do it standing takes stamina and strength. At first she didn’t know what I was doing but once I got into position her pussy (increased juice) and eyes told me she was impressed. After this we both collapsed on the bed. “Wow I never done that before.” LOL “Can you do it again.” We fell asleep but I awoke her with Alabama black snake in midnight.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6Ep1nmwWU0[/url]
[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=alabama+black+snake[/url]
A Monger’s Greatest Fear:
I just spoke about this in the Dubai photo gallery. Say its name and it will come LOL. What’s a monger’s greatest fear? Besides Disease, strong-arm robbery and theft she whipped out the camera phone and asked me could she have a photo. Hell to the nawl. I felt a little bad about though after she was so photogenic for me :)
[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nawl[/url]
Exodus:
Had some financial matters to attend to early morning. Told her it was check out time.
While trying to catch my own taxi I saw her getting in a taxi than she got out. I walked up asked was everything OK. She said “Bad Taxi.” Whatever the fuck that means.
Then I told her take care and walked off to continue my search for my own taxi. Ignored the Zoo-like stares from passer-byers managed to flag down a taxi took the long ride home.
Smart phone vibrates…text message: “I had a good time. Don’t forget me.”[/QUOTE]Whoa!! Those "call center managers" must make the big bucks.
Funny.
Hello all,
I will be coming in to Manila next week and was wondering what the weather is like. I know its rainy season there. Is it real bad and I should get out of Manila as soon as possilbe. In that case where is the best place to go with a lot of beautiful girls.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Sirvladi]Hello all,
I will be coming in to Manila next week and was wondering what the weather is like. I know its rainy season there. Is it real bad and I should get out of Manila as soon as possilbe. In that case where is the best place to go with a lot of beautiful girls.
Thanks[/QUOTE]They had hailstones yesterday. Got text messages from several lovelies all telling me that. And I don't even live in Phils.
Anyways I think that only happens once every 50 years. You should be safe. LOL
Hi,
Good days
I'm been travel to Philippine on beginning Jul. This was my 1st trip to Philippine, with seeking some guide-info. For looking some fun (escort, on-call or shop for night; Massage etc.)
I been stay in Cavite area (3days), Alabang town center (3days) and Laguna area (close to techno park.- 4 days). Might I have post the wrong place due to not sure the distance of place.
Hope those familiar location buddy can giving some guide.
Thanks in advance
Hi. I have utilised this site for a while and thought i should give something back - so i am a 'cherry reporter'
I seek higher quality, premium girls. I have been to Cebu frequently. The only three places i visit there are Arena, Jaguar and Bulldogs. I find they have the most beautiful girls. If you tip them at a premium level, they will become, as one 18 yr old likes to describe herself, a 'fuck buddy' (see separate reports in Cebu section for details)
I was in Manila last month seeking the Arena equivalent. My research on this suggested Miss Universal. A taxi driver told me the best two places in town are Miss Unversal and East Asian Entertainment KTV.
- can fellow mongerers confirm this?
- are there other venues that are comparable?
My experience of East Asia Entertainment KTV:
- Arrived around 10pm
- Large stage show, three girls on the stage at any one time
- Fishbowl at back with around 70 girls
- Mamasans are friendly and helpful (yes, i know they want to fleece me but its all relative)
- A few 8/10 girls but in my opinion mostly 7/10 average.
- I picked 4 girls to sit with me at my table for drinks (as i could not decide which one to take and wanted to see which ones had good attitudes for example would stay all night)
- All girls were very friendly and made clear they wanted to to be chosen (a couple also suggested a try threesome with their best friend). some girls quite shy. I was keen to check out Miss Universal as well so did not take any of these but told them, Terminator style, "i'll be back" - the girls had the look of 'heard it all before' on them.
- NO GIRL BETTER THAN GIRLS I HAVE MET IN CEBU VENUES
Miss Universal KTV
- Arrived around midnight in search of 'cebu type' girls
- Again, larges stage set up but seating is awful. Lots of tables crammed together and only few have good view of stage
- Two fishbowls: one good quality and one lower quality girls
- Similar standard to the earlier KTV (i assume the Koreans and Japs who had arrived at 9pm had reserved all the best ones into the private booths)
- The male 'papasan' asked what i was after. I told him, "best girl in this joint, young, beautiful, i pay good money'. He said he would look. He found me a stunner. Tall, young, pretty, slim, hot legs and butt, sweet smile.
- I agreed to pay the 6000 peso bar fine but wanted to know how long girl would stay. She said she had to go to her provine in the morning so could only stay until 3pm. I told her i would give her 4000 peso tip. She said she could go to her province later and agreed to stay until 9am.
- we went to hotel (mandarin oriental), she took shower, - she looked hot in the hotel robe. silky, flawless skin, perfect shape. i took shower and came back to room with just towel with a hard on bursting out of towel. She commented that i had a big cock and that it would be hard for her as she was a virgin until two weeks ago. She only had sex twice before. First time was with a korean punter. She said he enjoyed her as she was a virgin at that time - he only gave her 500 peso tip. I became harder. I got into bed and she felt good. I licked her and she became very horny and wet. She kissed beautifuly. I was rubbing myself against her inner thighs and she was positioning herself for me to enter. She asked if i had a condom. I did have condoms but did not tell her. She then said, "try not to make me pregnant" I moved closer to entry and contemplated going in bareback (and pulling out . before coming) but decided to pause to get the condom. I then entered her - she was very very tight and was throbbing. i came very fast. It was around 2.30am when i was done. I felt a little sorry for her. I asked if she wanted to go home. She said she did not mind. At the back of my mind i still had the four girls on hol from the earlier KTV (who were more experienced). So, i agreed that she could go. In fact, i took the taxi with her and dropped her back to Miss Universal and told the papasan how great she was. I also gave her a 6000 peso tip. She seemed happy.
Back to Asia enetertainment:
- the four girls were still available!!
- i shortlisted to two beauties. just sat with them drinking. itold mamasan i could not decide which one to take.
- i opted for the one that was continuosuly sliding her hand up and down my thighs and occassionally rubbing by dick.
- paid the peso 6000 barfine and took her to hotel
- she went straight to bathroom, stripped and jumped into bed.
- i was alread showered (post previous encounter).
- she just went straight into dfk and great bbbj with ball licking and sucking. she was also 18 but was a pure hardcore porno fuck experience.
- she had condom but it was one of those tiny tight things, i told her i could not perform with that and would use my own.
- she sucked me bareback for a bit more and i got my condom on. we were going for a while. she said she wanted to taste my dick again so pulled off the condom and started eating it and sucking it. then she said, ok, lets fuck and go to sleep. problem - on with the last condom and i was doing her missionary. i pulled out, took off the condom and started doing her bareback. not one complaint from her. turned her into doggie position and pumped her from behind too. finished off in missionary and i pulled out just in time to cum over her stomach and tits. we showered up and fell asleep. woke up at 11am. i had a flight to catch at 2pm so told her i would see her next time, she looked a little sad - i think she was up for another round. i gave her a peso 6000 tip which seemed to cheer her up.
OK, i got a bit carried away with the reports. Writing this first report is getting me excited as i recall this trip.
My experiences in Cebu are better. Please look out for reports which i will submit at some time.
So, overall, my question to more experienced people on this forum is where do i find the highest quality girls in Manila? I pay a premium (i know there is a debate to keep prices down and not spoil the girls but these girls are so beautiful and really need the money so i get some satisfaction in paying them a lot)
- Are the better places than Miss Universal and East Asia Entertainment.
VC
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[QUOTE=Vicecaptain]Hi. I have utilised this site for a while and thought i should give something back - so i am a 'cherry reporter'
I seek higher quality, premium girls. I have been to Cebu frequently. The only three places i visit there are Arena, Jaguar and Bulldogs. I find they have the most beautiful girls. If you tip them at a premium level, they will become, as one 18 yr old likes to describe herself, a 'fuck buddy' (see separate reports in Cebu section for details)
- Are the better places than Miss Universal and East Asia Entertainment.
VC
[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=baller[/url]
First off great report. Those taxi drivers will take you to places where they get a commission for bringing you there. They will tell you anything.
[url]http://www.ktvphil.com/main.asp[/url]
If you want to see the most beautiful girls a KTV has to offer then you need to hit Pegasus. This is the place the Filipino guys with money go. I have been to Pegasus more than once and can confirm the girls are something out of a dream but I don't think you can take them out.
I also heard something about a Don Pedro...I have been cellar dwelling last few nights but I have to start aiming high again LOL.
[QUOTE=Illogic]I also heard something about a Don Pedro...I have been cellar dwelling last few nights but I have to start aiming high again LOL.[/QUOTE]I've been to Don Pedro a few times. It's just around the corner from P.Burgos. The ladies are not that hot compared to Pegasus and even the bars on P. Burgos. It's a typical fish bowl with rooms you rent on the same property. The only advantage I see is that it is open 24 hours. They also have a two tier price structure. Before noon, there's a discount. Expect to spend around 3k pesos for the girl and the room.
ViceCaptain great report...You just moved whole philiphines with an 8 on richter scale. :)
You can check out Pegusus and there are many places near by also.
Agree, Cebu is one great hidden mongers paradise, thanks to koreans and japanese businessman who keep the places going and it does not seem to get old of its better past.
I would suggust to check out all places in manila also to get rid of that lingeing feelings, am i missing something, if cebu offers so much manila would be heaven.
Once you know what best for your taste, you will be much dedicated to yours goals ;)
[QUOTE=Illogic][url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=baller[/url]
First off great report. Those taxi drivers will take you to places where they get a commission for bringing you there. They will tell you anything.
[url]http://www.ktvphil.com/main.asp[/url]
If you want to see the most beautiful girls a KTV has to offer then you need to hit Pegasus. This is the place the Filipino guys with money go. I have been to Pegasus more than once and can confirm the girls are something out of a dream but I don't think you can take them out.
I also heard something about a Don Pedro...I have been cellar dwelling last few nights but I have to start aiming high again LOL.[/QUOTE]
Hey Ill,
[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ill[/url] (1)
Checked out the Urban Dictionary on "baller". Did you look as well? So that guy in the Pic is a thug who is living large? :)
I visited Pegasus about three years ago. I was staying at the Heritage Hotel and had wandered across the street to check out the action. I really couldn't find what I was looking for that night. So I jumped in a cab thinking I would head to Burgos Street. Talked to the cabby and let him play me like a newbie. Saw him get his commission as I was going inside Pegasus. Sat with a number of girls. Your right, lots of really sexy girls there. Finally made the deal for one with the mamasan. If I remember correctly it was 4000 peso for short time. But she was very sexy and incredible in bed. Got her digits, but by the next trip they didn't work any more. Always meant to go back but never did.
[QUOTE=Frequent Flier]Hey Ill,
[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ill[/url] (1)
Checked out the Urban Dictionary on "baller". Did you look as well? So that guy in the Pic is a thug who is living large? :)
If I remember correctly it was 4000 peso for short time. But she was very sexy and incredible in bed. Got her digits, but by the next trip they didn't work any more. Always meant to go back but never did.[/QUOTE]
A baller in urban language is a simply a person who has excess cash and looks like it. I don't know why the whole thug thing was added into the equation and I also don't know why the photo of the guy was posted. (Paul2020 thanks for the correction.)
As for Pegasus I was there last year multiple times and there were no Mamasan they had only a manager for the girls and that was it. I was told they have a massage place in the basement but no take out. One girl even refered to the take out request by other guys as an "indecent proposal." Not to mention the girls earn 90,000PHP per month. They are not pressed to sleep with men.
Factor in all this plus these girls also entertain Filipino movers and shakers, Senators, Filipino businessmen etc...I am sure they find us with our tourist/expat dollars amusing.
[QUOTE=Illogic]A baller in urban language is a simply a person who has excess cash and looks like it. I don't know why the whole thug thing was added into the equation and I also don't know why the photo of the guy was posted. (Paul2020 thanks for the correction.)
As for Pegasus I was there last year multiple times and there were no Mamasan they had only a manager for the girls and that was it. I was told they have a massage place in the basement but no take out. One girl even refered to the take out request by other guys as an "indecent proposal." Not to mention the girls earn 90,000PHP per month. They are not pressed to sleep with men.
Factor in all this plus these girls also entertain Filipino movers and shakers, Senators, Filipino businessmen etc...I am sure they find us with our tourist/expat dollars amusing.[/QUOTE]
Yea, I knew what a Baller was. I just thought the picture was funny especially based on the definition. I'm sure the picture fits as this guy hanging with the girls looks like he would be there only because he has money.
Not sure why I got the service I got at Pegasus, I called the lady a mamasan, but manager would be the same. She came over and initiated the opportunity at the girls suggestion. So maybe the girl was in the mood for a foreigner that night, or knew as a tourist type customer to the Philippines I wouldn't mess up her usual situation with regulars. I've always had better luck getting laid by being the guy from out of town. The place was not very crowded at the time. Maybe she had extra bills she needed to take care of. Who knows, but I did get a take out. I tried to get her to stay once we finished the deal at the room, but she declined and insisted that she had to go back to the Club. It's been awhile for me in the Philippines, but I am working my way back. I'll be doing lots of research and taking pictures again once I do.
[QUOTE=Frequent Flier]Yea, I knew what a Baller was. I just thought the picture was funny especially based on the definition. I'm sure the picture fits as this guy hanging with the girls looks like he would be there only because he has money.
Not sure why I got the service I got at Pegasus, I called the lady a mamasan, but manager would be the same. She came over and initiated the opportunity at the girls suggestion. So maybe the girl was in the mood for a foreigner that night, or knew as a tourist type customer to the Philippines I wouldn't mess up her usual situation with regulars. I've always had better luck getting laid by being the guy from out of town. The place was not very crowded at the time. Maybe she had extra bills she needed to take care of. Who knows, but I did get a take out. I tried to get her to stay once we finished the deal at the room, but she declined and insisted that she had to go back to the Club. It's been awhile for me in the Philippines, but I am working my way back. I'll be doing lots of research and taking pictures again once I do.[/QUOTE]
You know I thought it was just me. I researched the forum did a quick history search of Pegasus and there is not a lot about guys getting pussy from there. Check it out for yourself. I had fun just sitting around the cream of the crop and feeling like a big shot for few hours anyway....Next time you out this way maybe we can check it out togather.
[QUOTE=Illogic]You know I thought it was just me. I researched the forum did a quick history search of Pegasus and there is not a lot about guys getting pussy from there. Check it out for yourself. I had fun just sitting around the cream of the crop and feeling like a big shot for few hours anyway....Next time you out this way maybe we can check it out togather.[/QUOTE]
This is a sex forum. All about good,bad,weird,unusual experiences. Why are we talking about sitting with beautifull girls and drinking and spending lots of money? This is Philippines, not a japanese geisha house. We are not in philippines for entertaiment purposes. We are there for sex pure and simple.
[QUOTE=Vicecaptain]I was in Manila last month seeking the Arena equivalent. My research on this suggested Miss Universal. A taxi driver told me the best two places in town are Miss Unversal and East Asian Entertainment KTV.
- can fellow mongerers confirm this?. Are there other venues that are comparable?
- I agreed to pay the 6000 peso bar fine but wanted to know how long girl would stay. She said she had to go to her provine in the morning so could only stay until 3pm. I told her I would give her 4000 peso tip. She said she could go to her province later and agreed to stay until 9am.
In fact, I took the taxi with her and dropped her back to Miss Universal and told the papasan how great she was. I also gave her a 6000 peso tip. She seemed happy.
Back to Asia enetertainment:
- paid the peso 6000 barfine and took her to hotel
I think she was up for another round. I gave her a peso 6000 tip which seemed to cheer her up.
So, overall, my question to more experienced people on this forum is where do I find the highest quality girls in Manila? I pay a premium (I know there is a debate to keep prices down and not spoil the girls but these girls are so beautiful and really need the money so I get some satisfaction in paying them a lot)
- Are the better places than Miss Universal and East Asia Entertainment.[/QUOTE]Hi Vice,
Thanks for the report and a great story. I would really love to see some pics of these highend ladies to get an idea of how premium this pussy really was? I must say you really have a gift for telling a sex story. We share a common interest in high-end pussy!
I will try to answer some of your questions although my experience is limited because I just don't find the value in these places.
I think the first thing to point out is that "the cab driver told you these were the places with the best looking women." The reason is because he got a huge tip for bringing you there. Also, I think it is important to mention that these places charge a cover charge just to walk thru the door. Somewhere in the neighborhood of Php 750-1500. Am I right?
Secondly, they are without a doubt the most expensive places to monger in the Philippines. By this I mean that they are not 10-20% higher, but double the going rate. It could follow to reason that they have the best looking women because the best women want to work where they make the most money. On the two occasions that I went to these places they did have a lot of good looking women there. I would confirm as a ratio that they have the best lineup I have seen anywhere in Manila. Although on the occasions I went the women had almost no interest in a white guy. Simple reason is because I think the Asian men are the only ones dumb enough to pay these prices. Put another way, as a foreigner you have so many freebees available to you why would you bother to pay a sucker price for something you can get for free.
What really worries me is you say that you have spent alot of time reading the posts others have made here. But, clearly you ignored everything you read. Every post I have ever seen on these clubs on Roxas Blvd start and end with the fact that they are a RIPOFF. Second and most important you pay these women the hugest tips they will ever receive in their entire lives. If you search the entire Philippine thread you would never find an instance where someone paid a tip like that. Several long term girlfriends that I have had in Manila have told me that if they got a job in the mall or a call center they might make 400 pesos per day. So you just tipped these women the equivalent of two weeks salary. Not to mention the barfine you paid or the fact that you negotiated with them to stay for longer periods and them let them leave early, but still gave them a bigger tip than agreed upon?
Please try to understand that these women all talk and share experiences. So when you over pay (drastically overpay) these women they tell all of their friends about it. Which means all of their friends are now in that club negotiating with every guy that comes in for 4-6000 peso tip. The next time someone barfines your girls they are going to expect a 4-6000 peso tip. And when none of these girls gets that huge tip promised to them, do you think they are going to give the kind of GFE that you got? No way! In short what you have just done is ruined these 2-3 girls for someone else that could of enjoyed them. It is the whole purpose of this board to share locations with hidden gems and share price info to keep others from getting ripped off.
I am sorry if I am being critical but all you have to do is look at mongering in some of the notorious places around the world to prove my point. Eastern Europe and Las Vegas. The last time I fucked girls in these places the service was so bad and so expensive the girls practically wouldn't stop texting long enough for me to have sex with them and this is after having paid several hundred dollars. It is also the reason people hate Americans. Its not because we're all so good looking, rich and cocky. It is because everywhere we go we ruin the fun by overpaying for poor service!
So please in the future pay the going rate and nothing more. Currently, in Manila the going rate for quality pussy, overnight is 3000 pesos. If she really knocks your socks, and clearly all of these girls did, give them 3-500 peso extra. When a girl says she will stay til 9 am make her stay. If she leaves early, pay her less.
Stay thirsty my friend!
[QUOTE=Devils 1]I would really love to see some pics of these highend ladies to get an idea of how premium this pussy really was? [/QUOTE]Me also.
[QUOTE=Devils 1]Put another way, as a foreigner you have so many freebees available to you why would you bother to pay a sucker price for something you can get for free.[/QUOTE]This is a myth. I have only seen this proven true with squatter girls and those provincial types who are "star struck" and don't know any better. Another tactic I see foreign guys use is to go after the girls that don't look so hot. Quantity over quality. If you come here and you chase the hi-so girls then it's going to take more than you being a foreigner with Pesos to get them. Go hangout at the Green Belt. Lot of expats here already. Most girls around Manila are not impressed.
I am in my 20s don't look like Jabba the hut and don't have girls falling all over me. I have the odd sale's girl flirt or girl off the street but thats about it. I only see this flirting when I am around the poor type.... me I am not impressed with them. If those are the freebies available I rather stick to the bars. Less headache. Also another knock on the freebie case if this was so true don't you think the bars would be out of business by now if it was so easy.
[QUOTE=Devils 1]What really worries me is you say that you have spent alot of time reading the posts others have made here. But, clearly you ignored everything you read. Every post I have ever seen on these clubs on Roxas Blvd start and end with the fact that they are a RIPOFF. Second and most important you pay these women the hugest tips they will ever receive in their entire lives. If you search the entire Philippine thread you would never find an instance where someone paid a tip like that. Several long term girlfriends that I have had in Manila have told me that if they got a job in the mall or a call center they might make 400 pesos per day. So you just tipped these women the equivalent of two weeks salary. Not to mention the barfine you paid or the fact that you negotiated with them to stay for longer periods and them let them leave early, but still gave them a bigger tip than agreed upon?
Please try to understand that these women all talk and share experiences. So when you over pay (drastically overpay) these women they tell all of their friends about it. Which means all of their friends are now in that club negotiating with every guy that comes in for 4-6000 peso tip. The next time someone barfines your girls they are going to expect a 4-6000 peso tip. And when none of these girls gets that huge tip promised to them, do you think they are going to give the kind of GFE that you got? No way! In short what you have just done is ruined these 2-3 girls for someone else that could of enjoyed them. It is the whole purpose of this board to share locations with hidden gems and share price info to keep others from getting ripped off.[/QUOTE]A I am not going to tell another man how to spend his money. If you can afford to drop 6K PHP man go for it but I would not drop 6K for a tip only. Total package... tip/barfine... ect....maybe.
[QUOTE=Devils 1]So please in the future pay the going rate and nothing more. Currently, in Manila the going rate for quality pussy, overnight is 3000 pesos. If she really knocks your socks, and clearly all of these girls did, give them 3-500 peso extra. When a girl says she will stay til 9 am make her stay. If she leaves early, pay her less.[/QUOTE]I agree 100% here.
[QUOTE=Sammon]This is a sex forum. [/QUOTE]Thanks for letting me with over 1000 post know this. I do believe ISG have evolved into much more.
[QUOTE=Sammon]Why are we talking about sitting with beautifull girls and drinking and spending lots of money? [/QUOTE]Is this a rhetorical question?
[QUOTE=Sammon]This is Philippines, not a japanese geisha house. [/QUOTE]Thank you for pointing this out. I live in PI and I lived in Japan. It's like comparing a balloon to a blimp when you try to compare the average Japanese hostess bar to Pegasus.
[QUOTE=Sammon]We are not in philippines for entertaiment purposes. We are there for sex pure and simple.[/QUOTE]Some of your guys are here for sex only. Some of us live here and just enjoy the sex as a added bonus :D
[QUOTE=Devils 1]
Although on the occasions I went the women had almost no interest in a white guy. Simple reason is because I think the Asian men are the only ones dumb enough to pay these prices. Put another way, as a foreigner you have so many freebees available to you why would you bother to pay a sucker price for something you can get for free.
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Wow...Great analysis...Do me a favor, could you please not let the sun go down in Manila too. You write as if, we have the control over entire planet.
Why you always pick up the weaker ones, the hookers and that too in a third world country.
Why dont you go to your own country with your analysis and tell your own Hookers to reduced the prices. why dont you do that ?
I'm an Asian and why the hell you think, Asian men are dumb enough to pay high prices.
Every one is either crazy, psycotic, dump if one does not fall into market prices.
We all know you come here as a cheap charlie and wanna live a life of a king exploiting the poor third world country hookers..
Why dont you go to Airlines and tell them to reduce the prices, why dont you go to the oil companies and tell them also to reduce prices.
Why dont you appriciate the fact that no body wanted you back in your own country not even your own hookers for the price you were willing to pay and when you come to someone else country you wanna exploit the weakest sections of society by paying even less... how low a man could go ?
And when an Asian man treats another human being with respect and pays the "fair price" you call him dumb.
Folks, Pay whatever price you like to pay to a girl....ever
We would never want to control the prices for long term goal also, its good that the prices are random and choatic.....
Look what happened to Thailand over the years and to the western hooker industry decades ago....its self destructing..as soon as any party either a hooker or a monger tries to control the prices....the whole thing goes down.
Western guys dont understand this...the very reason they are here is they and the hooker organisation tried to control the prices in their homeland.
Now the western guys did the same to Thailand and controlled the prices...what they thought good was real bad in a longer term and in a decade millions poured in and then the power struggle began for the control of money and now Thailand is in turmoil.
Look at Angeles city, it has not gotten any better with controlling prices...it has only gotten worse with all big business coming in.
Let it be between a Man and a Women. Power is useless.
Please lets keep things natural here.
Appreciate the detailed reply and advice. Ok, let me explain the long term economic benefits of paying too much. After that I will write a little about my last trip to Manila this weekend in search of top class pussy (to the person requesting photos, I will do my best to submit some soon. I'll be back in PHP in two weeks)
1. When you tip a girl very well, she wants to become your 'fuck buddy'. This means she will give you her phone number and you can call her any time you like. Sure, she will expect a tip of PHP 5, 000 but you will never have to pay barfine for her again. Don't forget, she is already proven quality in terms of looks and services. And, she will tell all her friends about you as well. Mny of these friends are not working in these places but are just students, etc. Why pay the pimp, when you can pay barfine to girl, keep her all night. In the hope you may become their "boyfriend" (read sugar daddy), they will often give you freebies, will accompany you for entire day on island hopping trips, etc (they have nothing better to do anyway). But you have to keep them sweet. I have several of these numbers on my phone now and will call the girl that suits my mood. BUT, I ADMIT, the nature of a punter like me is that I always want to search for something better and new. Needless to say, I will always end up in these high end places as the vast quantity is just amazing. Endless supply in Philli. Have to admit, there are problems. Once I txt a girl from Hong Kong advising her to meet me at airport. She was a 19 year high school girl. She turned up at Cebu airport with 4 friends. Some people may be into this kind of thing but I just like one girl at a time. I had to entertain these 4 for the whole weekend. They all slept in my hotel room and not one sexual encounter. Next time I was in Cebu I saw the 19yr outside Pump disco and she asked me why I did not call her this time. I told her that I had lost her number. Anyway she bugged me for the whole weekend to spend time with me. Eventually I said ok. She said if it would be ok for her sister to come. I said no and then told her actually I was busy. She said ok she would come alone. The thought of those legs near me made me say ok. Surprise, surprise she turned up with her sister (who looked more like her aunt). Again, no action for me but just them getting to spend a night at the Hilton with me eating, etc. I feel too sorry for them just to boot them out.
2. Anyway, let me writea about my latest search for premium girls in Manila. I read on this site about Peagusus. Every taxi driver told me that it was too far and would take over an hour to get there (traffic really bad this weekend). A taxi driver suggested I try Air Force One (the name rang a bell from this site), cab also told me it was close to Php 500 for a diet coke and left fuming. So, AIR FORCE ONE looks very bad folks.
Next stop Asian Entertainment. Met the mamasan that introduced me to the girl last time I was there. Place was packed by the time I got there (around 11pm). Many hot girls already sitting with customers. Three girls were dancing on stage. Nmber 9 looked hot. I saw three koreans punters pointing towards her so I quickly went and located my mamasan and told her to make sure number 9 came to my table after her dance. Mamasan said no problem and said, "by the way, say Hello, to this young girl". She introduced me to a very cute girl. Beautiful face, sexy tight body, hot legs and a beaming smile. The girl shook my hand with a big excited smile on her face. I said would she like to sit with me. She said "oh yes", grabbed my hand and walked me to the table. She was very tactile. Had her arm around me. Stroked my legs. Rested her feet on my legs, very touchy feely. She even asked me to kiss her on her cheek and quicky turned her face so I contacted her lips instead. When a girl behaves like that, you know she will be a winner. Anyway, number 9 turned up. Hot body. Face not as nice. So, I was in my faviourite situation, two hot options reserved. All the koreans and japs looking on in envy!. Haha. Love it! Well, ordered some drinks and food (they both said they were hungry). I had pretty much decided that I would go for the girl that mama introduced. This was confirmed when number 9 told me that she was 24 yrs old and had a baby she needed to support. I thought I'd just keep her on the table so she could earn lady drinks. She also asked for a tip. I gave her a 1000 php and told her that today I would not be taking her out (and the "perhaps next time line"). I asked the young girl (sorry I don't want to share name right now until I have been with her at least once more. Please advise me if that is against ethics on this forum) if she was keen to come to my hotel. She said "of course". I asked how long she would stay "up to you" was her reply. I said "9am? ". She said she had nothing else to do next day so fine. The total bill was 16, 000 peso for barfine and food/drinks. We went to hotel, she showere up. The sex was hot. Lots of kissing to start. I went down on her making her really wet. Put my finger inside her pussy. It was small and tight. I was never going to het my rock hard dick into that. My finger inside her got her excited and she just spread her legs opened inviting me in. I slid myself in and her juicy pussy on my throbbing cock felt good. I was without a condom so pulled out without actually pumping. She said "more" so I obliged by dipping in and out again for several minutes. I wanted to finish so I asked her if she had condoms. She was not sure but said it did not matter. I asked her to check. She had a condom which I put on. She sucked me before we had a hard fuck. I came fairly quicky. We went to sleep. I woke up around 9 and she was virtually asleep on top of me. We fucked again in the morning. She stayed until lunchtime. We went to TGI Friday in glorietta. She came all the way to airport to see me off. I gave her PHP 6000 tip as well. She deserved it. Needless to say, two mins after I checked in, I got an txt from her saying she was missing me!
On the flight back, I did question whether paying almost USD 1000 for the experience was worth it (cost of flight, hotel, bar fine, drinks, tips, meals, etc). I'm still debating in my hea but its the thrill of the chase and pursuit of perfection which drives me.
I'll write again on Cebu experiences I've had including shopping mall, etc.
[QUOTE=Devils 1]Hi Vice,
Thanks for the report and a great story. I would really love to see some pics of these highend ladies to get an idea of how premium this pussy really was? I must say you really have a gift for telling a sex story. We share a common interest in high-end pussy!
I will try to answer some of your questions although my experience is limited because I just don't find the value in these places.
I think the first thing to point out is that "the cab driver told you these were the places with the best looking women." The reason is because he got a huge tip for bringing you there. Also, I think it is important to mention that these places charge a cover charge just to walk thru the door. Somewhere in the neighborhood of Php 750-1500. Am I right?
Secondly, they are without a doubt the most expensive places to monger in the Philippines. By this I mean that they are not 10-20% higher, but double the going rate. It could follow to reason that they have the best looking women because the best women want to work where they make the most money. On the two occasions that I went to these places they did have a lot of good looking women there. I would confirm as a ratio that they have the best lineup I have seen anywhere in Manila. Although on the occasions I went the women had almost no interest in a white guy. Simple reason is because I think the Asian men are the only ones dumb enough to pay these prices. Put another way, as a foreigner you have so many freebees available to you why would you bother to pay a sucker price for something you can get for free.
What really worries me is you say that you have spent alot of time reading the posts others have made here. But, clearly you ignored everything you read. Every post I have ever seen on these clubs on Roxas Blvd start and end with the fact that they are a RIPOFF. Second and most important you pay these women the hugest tips they will ever receive in their entire lives. If you search the entire Philippine thread you would never find an instance where someone paid a tip like that. Several long term girlfriends that I have had in Manila have told me that if they got a job in the mall or a call center they might make 400 pesos per day. So you just tipped these women the equivalent of two weeks salary. Not to mention the barfine you paid or the fact that you negotiated with them to stay for longer periods and them let them leave early, but still gave them a bigger tip than agreed upon?
Please try to understand that these women all talk and share experiences. So when you over pay (drastically overpay) these women they tell all of their friends about it. Which means all of their friends are now in that club negotiating with every guy that comes in for 4-6000 peso tip. The next time someone barfines your girls they are going to expect a 4-6000 peso tip. And when none of these girls gets that huge tip promised to them, do you think they are going to give the kind of GFE that you got? No way! In short what you have just done is ruined these 2-3 girls for someone else that could of enjoyed them. It is the whole purpose of this board to share locations with hidden gems and share price info to keep others from getting ripped off.
I am sorry if I am being critical but all you have to do is look at mongering in some of the notorious places around the world to prove my point. Eastern Europe and Las Vegas. The last time I fucked girls in these places the service was so bad and so expensive the girls practically wouldn't stop texting long enough for me to have sex with them and this is after having paid several hundred dollars. It is also the reason people hate Americans. Its not because we're all so good looking, rich and cocky. It is because everywhere we go we ruin the fun by overpaying for poor service!
So please in the future pay the going rate and nothing more. Currently, in Manila the going rate for quality pussy, overnight is 3000 pesos. If she really knocks your socks, and clearly all of these girls did, give them 3-500 peso extra. When a girl says she will stay til 9 am make her stay. If she leaves early, pay her less.
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To spend (locally) what you are claiming. If it was the cab drivers idea to take you to Asian Entertainment you got jacked. I sense a disconnect between being unwilling to pay p500 for a coke and yet lay out p17000 for the honor of being ripped off. Near as I can tell, you spent $500.00 US to get laid. Explain to me again how, in the long term; this is a good thing? ! ? You could have ordered two cokes, picked a stunner from the fishbowl; gone first class and cleared out of the place (with the girls cell phone number) for p7000. You confuse me sir!
Call center employees make p50 per hour, about p400 a day. My point isn't to say you are an idiot for spending that sort of cash on a girl. However, when you egregiously overpay for sex it spoils the deal for your brothers. It tends to turn the girls into the sort of ***** who may ask for more money to be on top, give head, remove her bra, take it in the ass or whatever it is you are in to. Local bar girls actually like to fuck but if they sense a man they can manipulate her loss of respect (for you) will lighten your wallet considerably.
Here are the rules of thumb. (as I understand them – and welcome others to amend)
I have NEVER paid more than p1500 for a barfine (even for Burgeos); and only did that twice before realizing there was no need. (just get the girls number – house calls are basically cab fare) There are a ton of websites like DIA where you can basically line them up for interviews, pick the winners – and long time them for a bus ticket and p2500. A fair deal to be sure – they get a weeks salary and you dine at the buffet of their delights.
In massage parlors, for good service I usually tip the next Ninoy up from the cost of the room. If I paid p1000, then I'll tip p1500. If service is flat out exceptional I'll add p1000. I cap my budget for room and girl at about $60.00 US.
If your point is landing a fuck buddy – certainly generosity is important. However, so is intelligence. The girl who rips you off won't respect you. Certainly not as much as the other members of this forum who will travel in your wake. So please, remember "Bro's before Ho's". Be a good guy, but don't pay 8x more then you should to get laid in this crappy town.
[QUOTE=Vicecaptain]Appreciate the detailed reply and advice. Ok, let me explain the long term economic benefits of paying too much. After that I will write a little about my last trip to Manila this weekend in search of top class pussy (to the person requesting photos, I will do my best to submit some soon. I'll be back in PHP in two weeks)
1. When you tip a girl very well, she wants to become your 'fuck buddy'. This means she will give you her phone number and you can call her any time you like. Sure, she will expect a tip of PHP 5, 000 but you will never have to pay barfine for her again. Don't forget, she is already proven quality in terms of looks and services. And, she will tell all her friends about you as well. Mny of these friends are not working in these places but are just students, etc. Why pay the pimp, when you can pay barfine to girl, keep her all night. In the hope you may become their "boyfriend" (read sugar daddy), they will often give you freebies, will accompany you for entire day on island hopping trips, etc (they have nothing better to do anyway). But you have to keep them sweet. I have several of these numbers on my phone now and will call the girl that suits my mood. BUT, I ADMIT, the nature of a punter like me is that I always want to search for something better and new. Needless to say, I will always end up in these high end places as the vast quantity is just amazing. Endless supply in Philli. Have to admit, there are problems. Once I txt a girl from Hong Kong advising her to meet me at airport. She was a 19 year high school girl. She turned up at Cebu airport with 4 friends. Some people may be into this kind of thing but I just like one girl at a time. I had to entertain these 4 for the whole weekend. They all slept in my hotel room and not one sexual encounter. Next time I was in Cebu I saw the 19yr outside Pump disco and she asked me why I did not call her this time. I told her that I had lost her number. Anyway she bugged me for the whole weekend to spend time with me. Eventually I said ok. She said if it would be ok for her sister to come. I said no and then told her actually I was busy. She said ok she would come alone. The thought of those legs near me made me say ok. Surprise, surprise she turned up with her sister (who looked more like her aunt). Again, no action for me but just them getting to spend a night at the Hilton with me eating, etc. I feel too sorry for them just to boot them out.
2. Anyway, let me writea about my latest search for premium girls in Manila. I read on this site about Peagusus. Every taxi driver told me that it was too far and would take over an hour to get there (traffic really bad this weekend). A taxi driver suggested I try Air Force One (the name rang a bell from this site), cab also told me it was close to Php 500 for a diet coke and left fuming. So, AIR FORCE ONE looks very bad folks.
Next stop Asian Entertainment. Met the mamasan that introduced me to the girl last time I was there. Place was packed by the time I got there (around 11pm). Many hot girls already sitting with customers. Three girls were dancing on stage. Nmber 9 looked hot. I saw three koreans punters pointing towards her so I quickly went and located my mamasan and told her to make sure number 9 came to my table after her dance. Mamasan said no problem and said, "by the way, say Hello, to this young girl". She introduced me to a very cute girl. Beautiful face, sexy tight body, hot legs and a beaming smile. The girl shook my hand with a big excited smile on her face. I said would she like to sit with me. She said "oh yes", grabbed my hand and walked me to the table. She was very tactile. Had her arm around me. Stroked my legs. Rested her feet on my legs, very touchy feely. She even asked me to kiss her on her cheek and quicky turned her face so I contacted her lips instead. When a girl behaves like that, you know she will be a winner. Anyway, number 9 turned up. Hot body. Face not as nice. So, I was in my faviourite situation, two hot options reserved. All the koreans and japs looking on in envy!. Haha. Love it! Well, ordered some drinks and food (they both said they were hungry). I had pretty much decided that I would go for the girl that mama introduced. This was confirmed when number 9 told me that she was 24 yrs old and had a baby she needed to support. I thought I'd just keep her on the table so she could earn lady drinks. She also asked for a tip. I gave her a 1000 php and told her that today I would not be taking her out (and the "perhaps next time line"). I asked the young girl (sorry I don't want to share name right now until I have been with her at least once more. Please advise me if that is against ethics on this forum) if she was keen to come to my hotel. She said "of course". I asked how long she would stay "up to you" was her reply. I said "9am? ". She said she had nothing else to do next day so fine. The total bill was 16, 000 peso for barfine and food/drinks. We went to hotel, she showere up. The sex was hot. Lots of kissing to start. I went down on her making her really wet. Put my finger inside her pussy. It was small and tight. I was never going to het my rock hard dick into that. My finger inside her got her excited and she just spread her legs opened inviting me in. I slid myself in and her juicy pussy on my throbbing cock felt good. I was without a condom so pulled out without actually pumping. She said "more" so I obliged by dipping in and out again for several minutes. I wanted to finish so I asked her if she had condoms. She was not sure but said it did not matter. I asked her to check. She had a condom which I put on. She sucked me before we had a hard fuck. I came fairly quicky. We went to sleep. I woke up around 9 and she was virtually asleep on top of me. We fucked again in the morning. She stayed until lunchtime. We went to TGI Friday in glorietta. She came all the way to airport to see me off. I gave her PHP 6000 tip as well. She deserved it. Needless to say, two mins after I checked in, I got an txt from her saying she was missing me!
On the flight back, I did question whether paying almost USD 1000 for the experience was worth it (cost of flight, hotel, bar fine, drinks, tips, meals, etc). I'm still debating in my hea but its the thrill of the chase and pursuit of perfection which drives me.
I'll write again on Cebu experiences I've had including shopping mall, etc.
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[QUOTE=ShadowAxis] To spend (locally) what you are claiming. If it was the cab drivers idea to take you to Asian Entertainment you got jacked. I sense a disconnect between being unwilling to pay p500 for a coke and yet lay out p17000 for the honor of being ripped off. Near as I can tell, you spent $500.00 US to get laid. Explain to me again how, in the long term; this is a good thing? ! ? You could have ordered two cokes, picked a stunner from the fishbowl; gone first class and cleared out of the place (with the girls cell phone number) for p7000. You confuse me sir! [/QUOTE]
Interesting topic you brought to the forefront.
All mongers spend differently and trying to put a cap on it is ridiculous.
If I am on Burgos depending on how I am feeling I will buy a round of drinks multiple times. Say you do that around two times you will spend about 2880PHP right there. Not doing it because I am stupid, not doing it because I like to waste money. I am out to party, relax, enjoy the atmosphere and have the girls go crazy.
If you barfine a girl from Burgos the going rate for most bars is 3900PHP. Then you have to pay her anywhere from 2500-3000PHP for a tip. You just spent 9780PHP throw in $100 for the 5 star telly (SOGO shit too dirty for me I like the atmosphere of big hotels.) and you spent a whopping $303 that's way too much but again I feel comfortable doing this.
Now a few points the round of drinks I don't do it all the time. As for the tip 3000 is the limit and if they ask for more then that I will tell them to curve.
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Some guys say that is too much but most of the girls are getting less inclined to fuck for that 1500-2500 shit. Also you may find a girl who will go for that but what if the girl you want don't want to go for that amount. I know know you may say well she don't like you. She may do like you but she is also running a business.
[QUOTE=ShadowAxis] I have NEVER paid more than p1500 for a barfine (even for Burgeos); and only did that twice before realizing there was no need. (just get the girls number – house calls are basically cab fare) [/QUOTE]
Taking the number is cool and all for a follow up fuck but if I am in the bar I see a hotty I want to fuck right then and there I am not going to wait. Also bargirls or any girls for me are usually a one time deal. I just take numbers for friends who might be interested.
While we are on the topic of Burgos they will not be getting my business again. My money is long like the OJ Trial but I am not rich and that place has long ago went above and beyond what I would like to call reasonable. While pound pound I think they have the cutest girls in Manila Go-Go wise. Its just not worth it too me. You don't get what you pay for. Some stunners but mostly average girls, Jolly-bee bellies, mothers, stretch marks ect... (Same price as some KTVs with top notch women).
I would recommend the various HI-So KTVs to all the high-rollers out there.
While EDSA has a lower quality of girls in my opinion Go-Gos wise its the best bang for the buck in town right now.
[QUOTE=ShadowAxis] There are a ton of websites like DIA where you can basically line them up for interviews, pick the winners – and long time them for a bus ticket and p2500. A fair deal to be sure – they get a weeks salary and you dine at the buffet of their delights.[/QUOTE]
I am new to these dating sites but most of these girls are looking for a husband. Weeding through them can be tedious. Also it much more easier to hit the bar. Trying to save a few Pesos and get what some would call a "freebie" doesn't make up for all the time spent chatting and pretending to be interested in whatever the fuck they are talking about etc.
Also I have a theory the girls that are fucking over the internet are bargirls, ex-bargirls or bargirls in training anyway. Same quality. Again might as well go to the bar. LOL
[QUOTE=ShadowAxis] In massage parlors, for good service I usually tip the next Ninoy up from the cost of the room. If I paid p1000, then I'll tip p1500. If service is flat out exceptional I'll add p1000. I cap my budget for room and girl at about $60.00 US. [/QUOTE]
I don't like massage parlors. I like to relax in my own bed (well own bed for night). Leave when I want to and not have someone outside with the stop watch like it's a football 40 yard dash. I may feel like a getting a nap then another fuck in the morn. Can't do that in a massage parlor.
[QUOTE=ShadowAxis] If your point is landing a fuck buddy – certainly generosity is important. However, so is intelligence. The girl who rips you off won't respect you. Certainly not as much as the other members of this forum who will travel in your wake. So please, remember "Bro's before Ho's". Be a good guy, but don't pay 8x more then you should to get laid in this crappy town. [/QUOTE]
Hell they don't respect us much anyway. We are tricks. Look how they treat their most generous sponsors :D
For $500/month you can have a real good looking non-pro fuck buddy in Philippines.
Just requires some courting and advertising to the fact you will willing to support.
Spending $500 on one night of partying in Phi is rediculous. This is not Las Vegas. Even in Las Vegas nobody spend money like that unless they won in the casino.
Your money is your money and you spread it the way you want. But it spoils the market for rest of us. No need to brag.
No wonder the girls think their pussy is made out of gold and they are the queens who can dictate a dick literally inside and outside.
Since when girls are harder to find in Phi than water in Sahara?
[QUOTE=Sammon]For $500/month you can have a real good looking non-pro fuck buddy in Philippines.
Just requires some courting and advertising to the fact you will willing to support.
Spending $500 on one night of partying in Phi is rediculous. This is not Las Vegas. Even in Las Vegas nobody spend money like that unless they won in the casino.
Your money is your money and you spread it the way you want. But it spoils the market for rest of us. No need to brag.
No wonder the girls think their pussy is made out of gold and they are the queens who can dictate a dick literally inside and outside.
Since when girls are harder to find in Phi than water in Sahara?[/QUOTE]
Monger Etiquette
Sammon please educate us all. I would like to know how do you open the discussion to these girls I am not talking about obvious bar girls online or "fun girls" but the students and generally sweet innocent looking girls. I have met a lot of them. I had no idea there were so many Filipinas online looking for men/marriage incredible. I mean how do you say to them "Hi I am so and so I would love to screw you for a month or so. Financially it will be worth your while?"
I am not being sarcastic. I met a girl from in Leyte in 2004. I had no knowledge of the bar scene at that time she was simply a chat mate I was not into mongering or chat/mongering lol. First piece of Pinay pussy I ever got. She came from Leyte to Manila sweet girl non-bar type and I fucked her every which way for a week straight. She asked me was I on some type of medicine. LOL. After that I gave her some money and thought it was "all good" but it wasn't. The whole experience put a bad taste in my mouth. That's why I try not to fuck with the poor folk anymore. Luckily she now in America getting well taken care of.
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Price fixing is very a dangerous game in the longer term. West was never educated properly on the laws of karma.
You will keep hearing from mongers, ohh...dont give so much, you will ruin the market for rest of us.
Remember "Price Fixing" only works one way UP....It will never be 1500 Pesos for ever..In five years, next fixed price will be 2000 then 3000 then 5000 and when we grow old..we will complain again...ohh the prices have gone up ..old times were better.
Ask any old monger from Thailand and he will always complain about the present time.
In any market, Inflation is the direct result of price fixing and even if you abide by the fixed price guys and after an year when you come back and say prices are higher comapred to last year, those same folks will say, look around you mate, prices have gone up everywhere...so is the "fixed price" :D
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The moment you fix the price, lots of "wrong interest" shows up, they see a business oppourtunity to make a profit. Prostitution becomes an industry, women get exploited and we feel guilty for paying for sex.
Everything wrong is the direct consequence of "price fixing" in any market.
Things never gets better, its always the past which was golden. Just look at Thailand which is a prime example.
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You can only keep women exploiters and pimps away when you stop paying the fixed price and keep the game random and choatic.
As long as the third party never knows the real price for a hook up, everyone is safe.
Unfortunately, this is not the case anywhere now a days, women are getting exploited more and more, cos people know they can expect a certain price from prostitution.
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Its always the short term goals.....I hope people re-educate themselves for their own benifit and not blindly follow the western school of thought for which they are the masters of self destruction.
You will never find long term answers and solutions in them.
Their is no sin, just ignorance. The solution is only in the laws of karma.
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We need to base our actions on karma and not based on a collective thought or anything...'cos karma will come back to you no matter where you are..even if you hide in a cave or in your next birth, IT WILL PAY YOU BACK. :)
The more you keep the game between a man and a women natural and on equal terms, the better for everyone.
The more our actions are based on the laws of karma the more we keep the third parties away.
We mongers should never think of doing anything collectivly to fix price things up it is very dangerous and not based on the laws of karma...it is doomed to fail and we will face the consequences lator on.
Do your own thing, keep the prices random, lets some pay 1000 pesos, some 5000...it all works well in the longer term...and even after 5 to 10 years you will never pay the inflated fixed price but what you negotiated with the girl, and there will be no more forced prostitution.....no third party will ever know how much you gonna pay to a girl...they will disappear.
We know that the above is not a fairytale but could be a reality, cos of the laws of karma....its in our hands...do the right thing and we all will benifit.
Its not only in Mongering, but in all aspects of our life, the laws of karma must be followed for longer term objectives.
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Good Luck
Illogic. Your comments make a lot of sense. A party is a party. And if you're having a good time and the cash isn't much of an issue it's still a whole lot less then you'd pay for a good time elsewhere in the world. I also agree that Burgeos has become prohibitively expensive. It's simply not a good value. I haven't been back to Burgeos in almost a year. I'd rather have a drink at Havna Cafe or a nice bar in Greenbelt, Rockwell or the Fort if I'm going to pay real money) So the parasites (bar owners, girls) basically killed this dog. I know a lot of other local foreigners who walked from the bar scene years ago.
Not totally on board with the Faith Based Economics as detailed below.
I get the Thai analogy. Though see it as a simple issue of supply and demand. We aren't fixing the price of silver, and we aren't doing the lords work. It's about a fair exchange of value. If Karma is required to be part of the equation. Then I'm cool with that so let's do the math.
Earning income of average shop girl. About p40 an hour or p360 a day. Just for reference, that's what Philippine National Bank pays it's customer support operators. If I can have a girl for p2500 then she is making 9 days of salary or almost $25. 00 US an hour for the 90 minutes or so I will make use of her gifts.
This is a great deal for everyone concerned. It's a number I can feel good about.
Sometimes less is more. I've seen the effect of huge amounts of cash on these girls and it's not pretty. It can destroy the girl, her family (who become immediately dependent on her revenue), it will prevent her from going to school. Or moving on with her life / developing a career. Also, judging by the amount of half white children it may lock them into the parenting cycle. Obviously, we can't be responsible for the actions, lifestyle or karma of others. But if you are going to blow serious amounts of cash then find a responsible local charity and get involved. Fund organizations supporting the Reproductive Health Bill. Giving the wheel a big cash spin when you pass by does nothing for the hamster.
I guess your right though. There isn't a fixed number. Or a way to fix it.
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Price fixing is very a dangerous game in the longer term. West was never educated properly on the laws of karma.
You will keep hearing from mongers, ohh...dont give so much, you will ruin the market for rest of us.
Remember "Price Fixing" only works one way UP....It will never be 1500 Pesos for ever..In five years, next fixed price will be 2000 then 3000 then 5000 and when we grow old..we will complain again...ohh the prices have gone up ..old times were better.
Ask any old monger from Thailand and he will always complain about the present time.
In any market, Inflation is the direct result of price fixing and even if you abide by the fixed price guys and after an year when you come back and say prices are higher comapred to last year, those same folks will say, look around you mate, prices have gone up everywhere...so is the "fixed price" :D
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The moment you fix the price, lots of "wrong interest" shows up, they see a business oppourtunity to make a profit. Prostitution becomes an industry, women get exploited and we feel guilty for paying for sex.
Everything wrong is the direct consequence of "price fixing" in any market.
Things never gets better, its always the past which was golden. Just look at Thailand which is a prime example.
==========================================
You can only keep women exploiters and pimps away when you stop paying the fixed price and keep the game random and choatic.
As long as the third party never knows the real price for a hook up, everyone is safe.
Unfortunately, this is not the case anywhere now a days, women are getting exploited more and more, cos people know they can expect a certain price from prostitution.
=========================================
Its always the short term goals.....I hope people re-educate themselves for their own benifit and not blindly follow the western school of thought for which they are the masters of self destruction.
You will never find long term answers and solutions in them.
Their is no sin, just ignorance. The solution is only in the laws of karma.
=============================================
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
=============================================
We need to base our actions on karma and not based on a collective thought or anything...'cos karma will come back to you no matter where you are..even if you hide in a cave or in your next birth, IT WILL PAY YOU BACK. :)
The more you keep the game between a man and a women natural and on equal terms, the better for everyone.
The more our actions are based on the laws of karma the more we keep the third parties away.
We mongers should never think of doing anything collectivly to fix price things up it is very dangerous and not based on the laws of karma...it is doomed to fail and we will face the consequences lator on.
Do your own thing, keep the prices random, lets some pay 1000 pesos, some 5000...it all works well in the longer term...and even after 5 to 10 years you will never pay the inflated fixed price but what you negotiated with the girl, and there will be no more forced prostitution.....no third party will ever know how much you gonna pay to a girl...they will disappear.
We know that the above is not a fairytale but could be a reality, cos of the laws of karma....its in our hands...do the right thing and we all will benifit.
Its not only in Mongering, but in all aspects of our life, the laws of karma must be followed for longer term objectives.
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Good Luck[/QUOTE]
Manila, AC, Cebu. Been in country 3 weeks. Not paid more than p1500 LT yet except Cebu barfines. Only 1 girl would not fall for it. Some ask for more, but my holding at 1500 works everytime (except the one time in AC, she would not take less than 2000 LT). Recession is hitting hard. Also having trouble getting rid of girls the next day. Finally one left on her own at 6pm this morning. They are hanging on for days, not asking for second monies, happy to just hang with me and go to mall for meals. Prices too good to be true. Also G Point cafe, girls dont even mention money till the next day when I'm booting them (u give me tip?). I give p1500 and they kiss and walk in late afternoon.
Just one bad experience this time, a girl could not perform in the room when we got in from LA Cafe. She got nervous. I asked her nicely to leave and she did so quietly, no pay. I walked her out to the taxi. She asked me to pay it and I would not (she wasted my time). She didn't have money, so she walked away from the Bayview Park Hotel on Roxas. 45 mins later I was back in the room with another girl from LA Cafe. The girls from LA want to know up front how much. They often request from p2000-3000. Say p1500 and off we go. Two girls there didnt ask up front, they just ask how much I offer. p1500 LT sweetie and she's grabbing her purse. This is interesting considering my list of demands is long (everything you can imagine) and includes naughty pics.
Speaking of the Bayview, girl-unfriendly this time. My bringing in a second girl in an hour caused small ruckus at the front desk. They made me register her, and the photocopied her ID, and they gave me the dirty look. They made the registration process last 5 minutes (took their time) at 3am.
Had two individual short-times in AC for p600 each. Also took two girls at once (pics later when Im home) they went from blow row bar by shanos gladly 4 hours in my room p1400 total, no tip requested. They were only into the lesbo thing little bit, but they were fine to work me over together twice in 4 hours. Barfines of p1300 in AC and girls are still there waking up at noon next day wanting to go to the mall for meal and shop. Take her out for a drink after the barfine before you head to ur room and a 90-pound pinay is slosh-n-putty. I took waitresses mostly.
Cebu, barfine of p1700 twice, girls were spectacular, could not get rid of either the next day. No tip or taxi money requested although I paid the driver for one girl up front p100.
Things must be tough all over. Happy hunting.
[QUOTE=Illogic]I am proud member of a forum that is PI based and .
The Girls:
Lot of street walkers in Quezon City and Makati P Burgos street. The Quezon girls I saw with my own eyes while leaving Pegasus last year which I posted
Lodging:
1000PHP Per Day
Food:
100 PHP Mom and pop joints. 3 times a day.
Transportation:
Depending on how much traveling say 6 Jeepney trips 48PHP
Mongering:
Streetwalker 500PHP.
Grand Total: 1848PHP or $38.[/quote]Illogic,
I once have a SW for 500 PHP a few yr ago near robinson mall a malate, she is new to manila agree for LT but I kick her out after 2 pop a dead fish, she don't want to leave she like my bed at the Hyatt.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Illogic]
So one mongering day you will spend like:
Lodging:
1000PHP Per Day
Food:
100 PHP Mom and pop joints. 3 times a day.
Transportation:
Depending on how much traveling say 6 Jeepney trips 48PHP
Mongering:
Streetwalker 500PHP.
Grand Total: 1848PHP or $38.
Now I have to ask who the hell wants to be on vacation or living here like this?
Not being sarcastic or flaming anyone just some shit that was in my head.[/QUOTE]
Not Yankish, so my figures might be way wide but here goes.
Typical days expenses for a low cost monger in USA.
Lodging
$30-40 in a flea pit motel that would make Sogo look opulent.
Food
$20 for 3 belly (and heart) busting meals in fast food joints.
Transportation
Fucked if I know but not cheap.
Pussy:
Can you still get a lay (from anything which was not a diseased crack w****) for less than $100?
Grand total - a lot more than it would cost in Philippines for a similar 'near the knuckle' experience.
Could this be the reason? Just some daft shit that was in my head.
Not the money - just that some chaps like to walk on the wild side. Ask Hugh Grant:D
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]
Not the money - just that some chaps like to walk on the wild side. Ask Hugh Grant:D[/QUOTE]
It's never about the money. I also doubt it's about walking on the wild side. Some guys are just cheap as hell so I thought if I really wanted to save some money then this would probably be the way to do it.
[QUOTE=ShadowAxis]Illogic. Your comments make a lot of sense. A party is a party. And if you're having a good time and the cash isn't much of an issue it's still a whole lot less then you'd pay for a good time elsewhere in the world. I also agree that Burgeos has become prohibitively expensive. It's simply not a good value. I haven't been back to Burgeos in almost a year. I'd rather have a drink at Havna Cafe or a nice bar in Greenbelt, Rockwell or the Fort if I'm going to pay real money) So the parasites (bar owners, girls) basically killed this dog. I know a lot of other local foreigners who walked from the bar scene years ago.
Not totally on board with the Faith Based Economics as detailed below.
I get the Thai analogy. Though see it as a simple issue of supply and demand. We aren't fixing the price of silver, and we aren't doing the lords work. It's about a fair exchange of value. If Karma is required to be part of the equation. Then I'm cool with that so let's do the math.
Earning income of average shop girl. About p40 an hour or p360 a day. Just for reference, that's what Philippine National Bank pays it's customer support operators. If I can have a girl for p2500 then she is making 9 days of salary or almost $25. 00 US an hour for the 90 minutes or so I will make use of her gifts.
This is a great deal for everyone concerned. It's a number I can feel good about.
Sometimes less is more. I've seen the effect of huge amounts of cash on these girls and it's not pretty. It can destroy the girl, her family (who become immediately dependent on her revenue), it will prevent her from going to school. Or moving on with her life / developing a career. Also, judging by the amount of half white children it may lock them into the parenting cycle. Obviously, we can't be responsible for the actions, lifestyle or karma of others. But if you are going to blow serious amounts of cash then find a responsible local charity and get involved. Fund organizations supporting the Reproductive Health Bill. Giving the wheel a big cash spin when you pass by does nothing for the hamster.
I guess your right though. There isn't a fixed number. Or a way to fix it.[/QUOTE]Well said Shadow. It is what i have been trying to say for several days but havent been able to articulate. Key point is "fair exchange of value" that is all any one is saying here. I am not a cheap charlie and i am not trying to put one over on these girls by getting a bargain. I just want both parties in the deal to be happy. Like the saying says the best deal is one in which both parties win!
If we underpay or over work these girls they are going to leave thinking this business is not for them any more. Conversely if we over pay, they are going to leave thinking that every time they should get some kind of an outrageous fee!
The best thing to do is spend the time, talk to the veterans of several Pinay campaigns and get a feel for what the rates and expectations are from both sides of the deal. As is pointed out alot of places on this board the women in Havana Cafe or LA Cafe will be happy to let you know the costs and time estimates up front. I find this is the only way to go with any working girl.
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I think we can all agree that there are 2 different type of guys here. The one that comes on vacation once every year or 2 years. They are the type that would over spend and I really understand how that it. They don't want to walk away from the girl of their dream because they may never find her again therefore they are willing to over spend to have her. After all, they have been saving for this vacation for a year and they are there for the time of their life. Then they would go back to their country, work hard and save for next year. They don't care if they pay over the market and ruin it for the next guy because they won't be back for a long time, if ever.
Then there are the guys who either lives there or have the availability to come every couple of months. They will watch what they spend and will not pay over the market. They are willing to walk away from a pretty girl if she want more than the going rate. After all, there is another girl just down the street. And if they don't get the great girl this time, they can always wait and find that perfect girl the next time they come. So they will watch what they spend and will try to keep the market down.
There are probably a few permutations of your 2 extremes. But what is your point.? What of it all?
[QUOTE=Csun213]I think we can all agree that there are 2 different type of guys here. The one that comes on vacation once every year or 2 years. They are the type that would over spend and I really understand how that it. They don't want to walk away from the girl of their dream because they may never find her again therefore they are willing to over spend to have her. After all, they have been saving for this vacation for a year and they are there for the time of their life. Then they would go back to their country, work hard and save for next year. They don't care if they pay over the market and ruin it for the next guy because they won't be back for a long time, if ever.
Then there are the guys who either lives there or have the availability to come every couple of months. They will watch what they spend and will not pay over the market. They are willing to walk away from a pretty girl if she want more than the going rate. After all, there is another girl just down the street. And if they don't get the great girl this time, they can always wait and find that perfect girl the next time they come. So they will watch what they spend and will try to keep the market down.[/QUOTE]
Just left MNL and miss it already. I'm in Asia several times a year, but have a soft spot for MNL. As always, there was a lot of eating, pampering, and mongering involved. If I lived there, I'd never work! Plenty of great stories from LA and Edsa; but won't bore you with the same thing.
Different from previous trips, I walked the Malate area also, and checked out some of the smaller bars near LA and Amazonia. Just up the street near the Hyatt, there is a bar with WG (not freelancers), but the quality is a tad below LAC. Went there twice and passed both times. If you make the effort to walk down to UN Avenue and cross over to Mabini, there are 6 "bars" that also have a lineup of girls (anywhere from 3-10, depending on the hour). BF pricing is fixed at P1500 for all day. One mentioned not to tip, the other requested tipping is up to you. A lot of the scavengers are willing to show you these bars, and apparently pocket about P300 for bringing you there.
I took one girl from a place on Mabini, and ended up being a disaster! She got pissy and moody, wouldn't perform at all. I gave up completely and returned with her to the bar, but of course, couldn't get any kind of refund. This pissed me off to no end, but realize I walked away without any knife wounds, so that's a positive. My take is that the quality of girls is just below that of LA, but they have no incentive whatsoever to perform. At least in LA, they work for themselves and possibly want repeat customers. Most of us had some pretty good experiences there. At these other bars, there is a pimp and the girls just don't give a flying f***. This is probably the reason very few reports talk about these places. In addition, this is a scummy area and doesn't feel that safe. Certainly there is no recourse, no refunds, lots of bad karma. my two cents
[QUOTE=Ruff Rider]There are probably a few permutations of your 2 extremes. But what is your point.? What of it all?[/QUOTE]Why does he have to have a point ? This is a forum ( definition... an open discussion of ideas and opinions) where all can state their piece.
I totally agree with his statement about the types of guys and their style of expenditure. Again, no point but so what.
So being bored at work and moseying around the pc found one guys postings about his vacation in Phils.... just goes to show, that if we look in a mirror and see a rather large guy, these cute ladies see something else lol
try [url]www.flipflopfrolics.com[/url]
So I landed in Manila from Jakarta (if interested see my report about that in the proper forum) quite early in a Saturday morning. Just out of the airport on the left there are people offering you cars. Better to avoid them since prices are ridiculous. So go on till you find the metro tax which are very cheap. I went to Isabelle Royal Hotel in Makati. Not difficult to find since it is along Makati Avenue two blocks after some bars like Flamingo and Pussycat. So nice location for who is interested in mongering in that area. Nice place. More apartments than rooms. Damage is 1.500 per night queen size bed, no breakfast but you can have it not far in the avenue. Avoid room 503 with terribly noise bed and no mirror in the bathroom. Much better the 903. So I went for a walk and reached SMall Asia in Manila Bay. And had a look around. I was hungry so I went to French Baker or something like that. What was nice is that I found working there Maria, a nice girl of 31, single, no children, a bit too fat for my taste but very nice and great smile. I talked to her a bit but not too much since it was her working time. I left her my hotel and room number on a cared and I went back to wait. Her duties finished about at 4 pm and about 30 minutes later she called me and we agreed for a dinner together. We went to Manila Bay for that in a Chinese restaurant front of the seawater. Very nice and sweet conversation. I asked her whether she was interested in few days in some beach resort and she said yes but she was scared both of planes and ferry. She refused to come to my hotel that night and promised to be there the following morning at 9 am. And it is what she did. She said on job she was sick. We went by taxi to Batangas. Three hours drive for 2.500 pesos. When there we avoided Virgin resort which looked as the best one but also by far the most expensive. And no people there. Which I did not like. Tried another place I do not remember but no credit card accepted so we went to Palm Beach. Good people and good prices, 12.000 for 3 days, 2 people, everything included. We had three nice days together. Good but basic sex with Maria and nice time swimming, sunbathing, walking, eating and doing nothing. The best moment was a nice fuck the secodn day in the Jacuzzi in front of the swimming pool. About at 6 pm, dark already, no people around, nice view of the seaside and of the desert pool. It was good but not really a GFE since she was somehow cold. Went back to Manila by taxi again for 2.500 more and we spent the night in Isabelle. Next morning she left me to go back to job. I offered her 2.500 and she was happy to take them. Then I went to the airport to go back to Macau.
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[QUOTE=SmartEuropean]So I landed in Manila from Jakarta (if interested see my report about that in the proper forum) quite early in a Saturday morning. Just out of the airport on the left there are people offering you cars. Better to avoid them since prices are ridiculous. So go on till you find the metro tax which are very cheap.
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Thats represents good value, and would recommend to use.
Thanks for the field report. Although there are several reports about Puerto Galera + beaches, it's pretty rare to read a report about one of the Batangas resorts.
Do you have any pictures or contact info for Palm Beach?
X
[QUOTE=SmartEuropean]So I landed in Manila from Jakarta (if interested see my report about that in the proper forum) quite early in a Saturday morning. Just out of the airport on the left there are people offering you cars. Better to avoid them since prices are ridiculous. So go on till you find the metro tax which are very cheap. I went to Isabelle Royal Hotel in Makati. Not difficult to find since it is along Makati Avenue two blocks after some bars like Flamingo and Pussycat. So nice location for who is interested in mongering in that area. Nice place. More apartments than rooms. Damage is 1.500 per night queen size bed, no breakfast but you can have it not far in the avenue. Avoid room 503 with terribly noise bed and no mirror in the bathroom. Much better the 903. So I went for a walk and reached SMall Asia in Manila Bay. And had a look around. I was hungry so I went to French Baker or something like that. What was nice is that I found working there Maria, a nice girl of 31, single, no children, a bit too fat for my taste but very nice and great smile. I talked to her a bit but not too much since it was her working time. I left her my hotel and room number on a cared and I went back to wait. Her duties finished about at 4 pm and about 30 minutes later she called me and we agreed for a dinner together. We went to Manila Bay for that in a Chinese restaurant front of the seawater. Very nice and sweet conversation. I asked her whether she was interested in few days in some beach resort and she said yes but she was scared both of planes and ferry. She refused to come to my hotel that night and promised to be there the following morning at 9 am. And it is what she did. She said on job she was sick. We went by taxi to Batangas. Three hours drive for 2.500 pesos. When there we avoided Virgin resort which looked as the best one but also by far the most expensive. And no people there. Which I did not like. Tried another place I do not remember but no credit card accepted so we went to Palm Beach. Good people and good prices, 12.000 for 3 days, 2 people, everything included. We had three nice days together. Good but basic sex with Maria and nice time swimming, sunbathing, walking, eating and doing nothing. The best moment was a nice fuck the secodn day in the Jacuzzi in front of the swimming pool. About at 6 pm, dark already, no people around, nice view of the seaside and of the desert pool. It was good but not really a GFE since she was somehow cold. Went back to Manila by taxi again for 2.500 more and we spent the night in Isabelle. Next morning she left me to go back to job. I offered her 2.500 and she was happy to take them. Then I went to the airport to go back to Macau.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]The cars on the left, assuming these are the ones on the immediate left of exit door, these would be the airport taxi's which I find to great. Theres never a queue, cars are clean and tidy, drivers always good to chat to, and gets me from airport to Fort Bonifacio for P220.
Thats represents good value, and would recommend to use.[/QUOTE]I do not want to insist since I am not so common in this airport. But just out of the exit, on the left, you find few men (no cars at all) who just offer you cars. One of them offered me one and I said I was going to Makati. And he said: "It is 20 dollars, if you like I can call one for you. It will be here in 3 minutes". I declined the offer and I went onward to the right where I found the yellow cabs queue. A couple of minutes wait (but it was about 6,30 am) and I got mine. Nothing to complain about driver and car. And I paid 160 pesos to Makati. Of course a lot less than the 20 Us dollars I was asked before. Sorry if I was not clear before with my left and right explanation.
SE
[QUOTE=X Man]Thanks for the field report. Although there are several reports about Puerto Galera + beaches, it's pretty rare to read a report about one of the Batangas resorts.
Do you have any pictures or contact info for Palm Beach?
X[/QUOTE]In fact I wanted to go to Boracay or Puerto Galera. But she refused saying she was scared of ferries and planes. And told me just few days before a ferry sinked and many people died (have no idea if it is true or not). And, of course, it was not wise to argue about that with a pretty girl about 25 years younger than I who was so nice to agree to leave job and go to a beach resort with me for few days. But it was a good choice. Here are the contact: Palm Beach Resort Inch. Brgy. Hugom, San Juan, Batangas. tel. 0920-951-60-51. If you do not like it, there are at least 5, 6 in the range of few Km. For the pics, I have many but I need to resize them and I do not know when I have time, since now I have lot of job to do. SE
the yellow cabs are great news when picked up at the airport but would advise caution about flagging one down outside on the streets. i made the mistake of doing this on roxas recently and was astonished at how the meter spun like a fruit machine. by the time we reached baclaran it had hit 120 pesos when it should have read about 45 in a normal taxi. i pointed this out to the driver who could only shrug apologetically. so i paid him off and jumped in a ordinary taxi.
unless it was a rigged meter (which seems unlikely), i fail to understand this. i am sure that when i have caught yellow cabs at the airport, the meter has turned at relatively normal speed, if slightly faster than a normal cab.
any ideas or similar experiences?
p.s apropos of nothing - did you know that national hero no 1 is a major stakeholder in the franchise that operate the yellow cabs? bravo manny!!
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]P.S Apropos of nothing - did you know that National Hero No 1 is a major stakeholder in the franchise that operate the yellow cabs? Bravo Manny!![/QUOTE]Is there a current National Hero Number 2 ?? ( other than the age old legends of Lapu Lapu, Andreas Bonifacio, Jose Rizal etc.
And equallly apropos, who was P Burgos !
[quote=cunning stunt]the yellow cabs are great news when picked up at the airport but would advise caution about flagging one down outside on the streets. i made the mistake of doing this on roxas recently and was astonished at how the meter spun like a fruit machine. by the time we reached baclaran it had hit 120 pesos when it should have read about 45 in a normal taxi. i pointed this out to the driver who could only shrug apologetically. so i paid him off and jumped in a ordinary taxi.
unless it was a rigged meter (which seems unlikely), i fail to understand this. i am sure that when i have caught yellow cabs at the airport, the meter has turned at relatively normal speed, if slightly faster than a normal cab.
any ideas or similar experiences?
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fyi, those yellow cabs start out at a higher pesos rate once the meter is turned on. i'm not sure about the meter turning but it might start out at 70 pesos and then turn from there. those cabs are mainly used to leave the airport since the other metered taxis aren't allowed to wait around. the yellow airport taxis if empty are normally returning back to one of the many terminals to pick up more passengers.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan] And equallly apropos, who was P Burgos ![/QUOTE]
Good Question? And who the hell was Pablo OCampo? Sounds like a Mexican-Irish transvestite act.
And who was Padre Foureyes?
[QUOTE=Key Master]F I'm not sure about the meter turning but it might start out at 70 pesos and then turn from there. [/QUOTE]
Good point ... I'd not noticed the flagfall rate or thought of that. Mind you the meter was still turning mighty fast. If I had carried on the trip to my destination, I envisaged a P500+ tab.
Those yellow cabs have higher starting rate and the rate of increase is much higher. Because they are only allowed to drop off passengers from the airport. They are NOT allowed to pick up passengers in the street. However, if you do and they agree to give you a ride, then the best thing to do is ask for a flat rate based on experience. And if he refuses... tell him that you know he is not allowed to pick up passengers... he'll shrug, but I'm sure he'll eventually give in, because that is kind like bonus to them.
They do have higher daily bounty, but again their rate is almost triple normal cabs.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Good point ... I'd not noticed the flagfall rate or thought of that. Mind you the meter was still turning mighty fast. If I had carried on the trip to my destination, I envisaged a P500+ tab.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Enigma9]Jack, you're only a new member, so we forgive your ignorance. If you want the real story' I suggest you contact my friend Dashing Don by PM. Don is in his late 60's, so he doesn't play anymore, but he has some good advice for us younger guys.[/QUOTE]
Excuse me but I've met Dashing Don. Whatever gave you the impression that he doesn't play anymore?
GE
After a brief time away from the fun, I've got another trip planned to Manila. By the way, I've enjoyed reading the posts you've made the last few months and many of my questions (current prices, etc) have already been answered! Thanks! After reading your reports, I think I'm going to stay away from Makati and P Burgos Street (that's where I stayed the last time I was in Manila). Unfortunately, due to some obligations, I will need to stay fairly near the Malate and Ermita area and will not be able to bring girls back to my hotel. I've had good luck at LA Cafe in the past and was thinking about returning. Are there love motels or other options for ST in the area? Do you have a favorite massage (happy ending of course) in the area? You can msg me directly if you don't want to clog up the forum with this. I will be making a report on my adventures when I return. Thanks in advance for your help.
Also, does anyone know the exact location of LA Cafe? I'm looking on Google Earth and can't seem to find it from the air.
Look at these coordinates:
14°34'28.99"N
120°58'53.24"E
I think this is the location.
I have a bad habit of want to know all the GPS locations as well.
I hope this helps.
[QUOTE=Nefarious]
Also, does anyone know the exact location of LA Cafe? I'm looking on Google Earth and can't seem to find it from the air.[/QUOTE]
If show Lat/Lon setting = Decimal Degrees
(View > Options > Decimal Degrees)
Lat - 14.5746
Lon - 120.9829
[QUOTE=Kycuriosity]Look at these coordinates:
14°34'28.99"N
120°58'53.24"E
I think this is the location.
I have a bad habit of want to know all the GPS locations as well.
I hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Nefarious,
I don't know why that you need the coordinates ,all you need to do is tell the taxi driver to take you there ,unless someone is going to air drop from an airplane .
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Nefarious]Are there love motels or other options for ST in the area? [/QUOTE]Amazonia, the LA Cafe wanna-be bar down the street, has rooms upstairs for 300P for 3 hrs (I think). Try to get one away from the street. Noise and pollution are awful.
Room is fairly decrepit.
Did see a pretty hot WG in Amazonia when I was getting a drink.
[QUOTE=Blunau]Amazonia, the LA Cafe wanna-be bar down the street, has rooms upstairs for 300P for 3 hrs (I think). Try to get one away from the street. Noise and pollution are awful.
Room is fairly decrepit.
Did see a pretty hot WG in Amazonia when I was getting a drink.[/QUOTE]
Watch out for the katoey massage "girl" there. The ST rooms are now 600, def not worth it unless you just can't wait....
[QUOTE=Lenience]The ST rooms are now 600, def not worth it unless you just can't wait....[/QUOTE]
Yes, I checked them out once and wasn't too impressed. They are pretty decrepit for the price. Less secure as well. Much better vfm/safety can be had at the nearby Eurotel or in one of the Executive rooms at Sogo.
But quite often, if a ST room is needed, LA Cafe girls will try and talk you into going there. I imagine this is because it is less distance to drag their lazy arses.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Nefarious,
I don't know why that you need the coordinates ,all you need to do is tell the taxi driver to take you there ,unless someone is going to air drop from an airplane .
Fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]
You will definitely need it when you are drunk and the room is dark to find the sweet spot. Some guys' long-itude maybe different from others. hehe
[QUOTE=Nefarious]Also, does anyone know the exact location of LA Cafe? I'm looking on Google Earth and can't seem to find it from the air.[/QUOTE]L.A. Cafe is located at corner of 1429 M.H. del Pilar and Romero Salas St. in Ermita. Below is the satellite photo.
[QUOTE=Nefarious] I've had good luck at LA Cafe in the past and was thinking about returning. Are there love motels or other options for ST in the area?[/QUOTE]My favorite short time hotels are Victoria Court which is located at the corner of 2184 Madre Ignacia St. and Quirino Ave. in Malate, and also, the Anito Hotel located nearby on Carolina St. in Malate.
Both places are quite near the Manila Zoo.
I plan to go to Manila next month. I found that there are many possibilities to rent condos units but they all have 24 hours security. Does it mean that it may be as difficult as in hotels to invite some girls to your place?
Cheers
[QUOTE=Traveller22]I plan to go to Manila next month. I found that there are many possibilities to rent condos units but they all have 24 hours security. Does it mean that it may be as difficult as in hotels to invite some girls to your place?
Cheers[/QUOTE]I am not sure what you mean by "as difficult as hotels to invite girls."
I have never heard of a hotel that will not allow you to bring girls in. So i am sure the condos are just as girlfriendly.
[QUOTE=Devils 1]I am not sure what you mean by "as difficult as hotels to invite girls."
I have never heard of a hotel that will not allow you to bring girls in. So i am sure the condos are just as girlfriendly.[/QUOTE]
Well, I have read that sometimes you need to register the girl you invite to your room. I just wanted to check if it could happen with condos too.
I used to rent a house at NE Greenhills eons ago (even before ISG - that's how long ago!!) and its been really a while since I've actually been back to Manila to do any mongering. Well.... duty calls and I've got to attend to some family matters in Manila next month.
I've RTFF the PI forums but have as yet been able to get any bites/info as to what is available at Greenhills these days; Unfortunately, I'm gonna be restricted to areas around the Elan hotel at Greenhills (where my relatives' booked me at) AND I'd only be able to sneak out for limited periods of times/late at night - so there goes the Greenhill Mall trawling option!
Would any of you gents be kind enough to provide me with some pointers - and apologize for being such a nooobie on this.
BTW - I hope I'm correct to presume that the Elan Hotel is going to be girl friendly? Yes? Please someone confirm yes!!
Thank you beforehand
SEAJ
Gents.
Having planned a trip to Manila/Makati and Cebu shortly and having (apparently) lined up a number of lovelies from DIA, I will be looking to buy some Cialis if possible when I'm in Makati.
I've searched through all 3 threads and learned that: you can/cannot buy Cialis over the counter at Mercury or other drug stores w/out a scrip; the stuff you buy on the street is/isn't the real thing and buying in Cebu is tougher than buying it in Metro Manila. And many of the posts are older than 6 months.
So, with that in mind, can anybody tell me where a reliable place to purchase Cialis can be found in Makati?
FYI, IMHO, I would be loathe to put *anything* in my mouth that I bought on the street on Burgos.
Thanks in advance and I'll post the DIA marathon results in the Cebu section in the coming 2 weeks.
[QUOTE=Vision Thing]Gents.
So, with that in mind, can anybody tell me where a reliable place to purchase Cialis can be found in Makati?
FYI, IMHO, I would be loathe to put *anything* in my mouth that I bought on the street on Burgos.
.[/QUOTE]
VT
Am reliably informed that the Burgos stuff is good stuff - maybe the ISG members who I know well would help out and confirm this. Is good and does work am told.
Why not buy in your home counrty - or is that not an option?
Have fun in Cebu. Re DIA girls have plenty back up options and some may arrive late and stuff up the next liaison..Enjoy
Wicked Rog posted about what I would have. I've gotten good stuff online. Also had good results from stuff purchased on the street in Ermita and Cebu.
VT doesn't want to deal on the street, so I suggest asking at the bar. You'll pay more and likely get the same stuff as the street sellers, but if that gives you piece of mind, go for it.
Now the last time anyone posted about street prices, it was probably me, but I don't remember what I wrote. What is the going rate?
X
[QUOTE=Vision Thing]
So, with that in mind, can anybody tell me where a reliable place to purchase Cialis can be found in Makati?
FYI, IMHO, I would be loathe to put *anything* in my mouth that I bought on the street on Burgos.
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[QUOTE=Vision Thing]FYI, IMHO, I would be loathe to put *anything* in my mouth that I bought on the street on Burgos.[/QUOTE]Or on the street anywhere else, I'd think. It amazes me how otherwise sensible people will come to Asia and get an offer from some totally dodgy character on a streetcorner and think, well, OK, that's worth a try.
At the very best you'll get a cheap Chinese or Indian generic. But just as likely, a pill that does nothing at all. Or possibly one that has something like boric acid in it, and can really do harm.
Folks...As i'm from India and had some info on how things work in generic industry, i had posted last year on the quality of generic stuff which is available in streets of south east asia and makati etc.
here is the link
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=764973&postcount=1835[/url]
Hope it will be helpfull,
In short, not all stuff's are bad, its all mixed, yet you will be much more safer if you go with Cialis than viagra. cos many fake companies still go with viagra for quicker profit cos of the name.
Ask for Forzest from Ranbaxy Cialis its same as the real stuff but less than 1/3rd the real price.
Ranbaxy was brought last year by Japanese firm Daichi Sankhyo, so they have strict quality control.
Collegues,
During the first days of my visit in the Philippines I was staying in the Cherry Blossoms Hotel. The second evening there, after a no show DiA-girl and while I was walking back to this hotel, a guy named Danny approached me.
He told me he's from Cebu City and is working in the Cherry Blossoms Hotel. He asked me if I was interested in student girls. Because of the no show DiA-girl, I let him arrange 2 student girls to come to my room. Price: 4000 PhP for both the whole night. I've picked only one. Forgot her name already.
When he left with the other girl, he asked for some tip for the security guards. First I refused because 4000 PhP for a student girl a whole night, is more than a decent price. Secondly I've handed him just 20 PhP to get rid of him.
Because I'm a gentlemen I first started a good conversation with the student girl. After a while there was enough said and told, so I went into action. The moment we ly in bed, she refused sucking, kissing was also prohibited and she couldn't spread her legs wide enough because it was hurting her. These things give me the creeps, I complained and kicked her out. She was crying because she don't had money to pay a taxi back home, which I didn't believe.
My advise! Stay away from Danny. Getting laid with the girl he arranged for me costed too much and the girls are worse, even if they look beautiful.
Mike
[QUOTE=Vision Thing]I've searched through all 3 threads and learned that: you can/cannot buy Cialis over the counter at Mercury or other drug stores w/out a scrip; the stuff you buy on the street is/isn't the real thing and buying in Cebu is tougher than buying it in Metro Manila. And many of the posts are older than 6 months.
So, with that in mind, can anybody tell me where a reliable place to purchase Cialis can be found in Makati?[/QUOTE]I purchased Cialis at Mercury Drug near Makati Ave and Burgos St just a month ago.
If you are standing on Burgos St facing Makati Ave walk to your left down Makati Ave. At the next light cross the street. There is a gas station there with a small outdoor mall behind it (we call it a strip mall in the US). The Mercury drug is in there. Just approach the counter in the back where drugs are sold.
My advice would be to look at a Cialis first to know what the marking are before purchasing. Second look at the foil wrapper the holds the pills to make sure it has the "medical" name on it to further verify.
It was expensive, maybe $3-5 per pill.
Hope this helps.
Never go with anyone who approaches you on the street and offers a girl. We've all probably agreed to such deals before, and at least in my case. Being ripped off like that happened a long time ago and only needed to happen once. Better to get a good nights sleep and have twice the energy (and cash) for hunting the next day. Girls managed by pimps are primarily looking to set you up, case your room, or snatch whatever they can easily stuff into a handbag.
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Street pharma on Burgeos is good. Look for sealed boxes. Even though they're fakes from India / China they are good ones and have tamper seals. Don't pay more than p200 a box. Don't accept the product if it is NOT in a box or if the pills are not sealed in a foil pop-out container. Never accept loose pills. The box should contain a data sheet and a foil carrier with four pills. Examine for punctures.
These are not well regulated pills. In the case of C. You may get a dose ranging from 10 to 30 mg. Usually, if I get a headache. It's because the dose was north of 25 mg. Cut them in half just to be safe.
[QUOTE=ShadowAxis]Never go with anyone who approaches you on the street and offers a girl. We've all probably agreed to such deals before, and at least in my case. Being ripped off like that happened a long time ago and only needed to happen once. Better to get a good nights sleep and have twice the energy (and cash) for hunting the next day. Girls managed by pimps are primarily looking to set you up, case your room, or snatch whatever they can easily stuff into a handbag.[/quote]By the same token dont let taxi drivers who have Anito/Sogo/Victoria Court on the side also fool you when they say they work for those places so know where the best girls are. They are the standard cabs with a driver who wants to make some extra.
[QUOTE]Street pharma on Burgeos is good. Look for sealed boxes. Even though they're fakes from India / China they are good ones and have tamper seals. Don't pay more than p200 a box. Don't accept the product if it is NOT in a box or if the pills are not sealed in a foil pop-out container. Never accept loose pills. The box should contain a data sheet and a foil carrier with four pills. Examine for punctures.
These are not well regulated pills. In the case of C. You may get a dose ranging from 10 to 30 mg. Usually, if I get a headache. It's because the dose was north of 25 mg. Cut them in half just to be safe.[/QUOTE]Or wait till you get the next Bangkok business trip, and get well stocked up on both Kamagra in tablet form.. does exactly the same job as Viagra for one tenth of the price... or in sachet form...which will give you a reaction within 15 minutes as its liquid, therefor has a far faster absorption rate.
Kamagra is a generic drug manufactured in India.
Yep, the so called "fake" Cialis on the streets is often too strong. I bite them in half.
I've also ordered online and received a very different, but milder medicine(this "fake" stuff comes from India). Somtimes a minor headache, but usally a good 12-20 hours of good hard on action.
Tip your bar girl well. They have to work a lot harder since the introduction of these "FAKE" medicines.
X
ps: you sholud always buy from the original manufacturere....do not ever buy these "fake" medicines. Paying the premium price means you will get a higher quality product.
[QUOTE=ShadowAxis]Never go with anyone who approaches you on the street and offers a girl. We've all probably agreed to such deals before, and at least in my case. Being ripped off like that happened a long time ago and only needed to happen once. Better to get a good nights sleep and have twice the energy (and cash) for hunting the next day. Girls managed by pimps are primarily looking to set you up, case your room, or snatch whatever they can easily stuff into a handbag.
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Street pharma on Burgeos is good. Look for sealed boxes. Even though they're fakes from India / China they are good ones and have tamper seals. Don't pay more than p200 a box. Don't accept the product if it is NOT in a box or if the pills are not sealed in a foil pop-out container. Never accept loose pills. The box should contain a data sheet and a foil carrier with four pills. Examine for punctures.
These are not well regulated pills. In the case of C. You may get a dose ranging from 10 to 30 mg. Usually, if I get a headache. It's because the dose was north of 25 mg. Cut them in half just to be safe.[/QUOTE]
If you are moving about in Manila today, hard luck. Its the presidents SONA day, plus some once in a blue moon religious event.
Traffic snarl ups are expected to be so bad that they have shut down the schools for the day.
I'm staying home!!
First of all, my apologies - but is there anyone here who could give me a few pointers as per my previous post?
Would really appreciate it and promise I will repay the kindness with assist on mongering activities around my part of the world - Southern China.
Thanks and Regards
SEAJ
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]I used to rent a house at NE Greenhills eons ago (even before ISG - that's how long ago!!) and its been really a while since I've actually been back to Manila to do any mongering. Well.... duty calls and I've got to attend to some family matters in Manila next month.
I've RTFF the PI forums but have as yet been able to get any bites/info as to what is available at Greenhills these days; Unfortunately, I'm gonna be restricted to areas around the Elan hotel at Greenhills (where my relatives' booked me at) AND I'd only be able to sneak out for limited periods of times/late at night - so there goes the Greenhill Mall trawling option!
Would any of you gents be kind enough to provide me with some pointers - and apologize for being such a nooobie on this.
BTW - I hope I'm correct to presume that the Elan Hotel is going to be girl friendly? Yes? Please someone confirm yes!!
Thank you beforehand
SEAJ[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]But quite often, if a ST room is needed, LA Cafe girls will try and talk you into going there. I imagine this is because it is less distance to drag their lazy arses.[/QUOTE]Maybe its because they get back to La Cafe quicker for yet another customer. Or Amazonia have offered girls a commission for dragging guys to their place.
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]First of all, my apologies - but is there anyone here who could give me a few pointers as per my previous post?
Would really appreciate it and promise I will repay the kindness with assist on mongering activities around my part of the world - Southern China.
Thanks and Regards
SEAJ[/QUOTE]
Hi Joe, Hows life at the sharp end in Changping?
When I saw your request, I was intrigued and doubted that you would receive much of a positive response. I have, sadly for you, being proved correct. Truth to tell Greenhills is hardly prime mongering territory and so not many guys who are on predominately pussy chasing vacations would choose to stay there. They would stay in Makati or Malate/Ermita.
Perhaps this is why your relatives chose Greenhills for you:(?
Only thing I really know about Greenhills is there are many seriously wealthy people live there, it has one of the top golf courses in Manila and the best places in town for computer stuff/counterfeit goods in Virra Mall.
I suspect, as you seem to be on a tight rein, that for your carnal pleasures, you may have to call in an escort from an agency or preferably a freelancer. Have you perused the Escorttown website. There are some pretty tasty FL's on there - the prices go from OK to being downright outrageous, but undoubtedly they are all negotiable.
As to the Elan Hotel being GF? Search me - I have never even heard of the place. Over to the forum.
Sorry SEAJ. I've read your posts throughout the years and enjoyed them, and I would like to help. However, I think I've been to Green Hils exactly once, and I know nothing about the area.
GE
sea joe,
didn't reply at first cause like the other guys, don't think there is really very much near greenhills.
but... you may want to consider visiting the massage places on quezon ave. think most open early afternoon 1-2pm? although the early selection might be somewhat limited most places offer a discount before 7pm and i think most close around midnight or 1-2am. won't be really cheap, the girls "tip" is usually equal to the room rate, so probably anywhere from 2-3k earlier in the day, and maybe another 1k later, depends on the place. most are located near or as part of a ktv, some better known ones are wilderness (near hearbeat ktv), executive health club, slyvanus (sp?) downstairs in peagasus ktv, and the newest kremlin next door to classmates ktv.
check out manila tonight, or this guy [url]http://buwayahman.squarespace.com/[/url]
there's some more info on these places.
of course there is always the streetwalker action late at night on quezon ave too. but be careful on this option, from what i hear lots of **** girls and/or baklas, but could be a cheap option and there is a sogo hotel right on quezon ave in the middle of the action for a short time place.
good luck!
Thanks Cunning Stunt and Good enough. I sort of expected this for as I said, I did use to have a house around those parts - but at that time, I also had my own car and driver to take me to Makati and other places to party - as Greenhills was just.... dead!!
Also in those days, I was not into the P4P scene and was more into going out and picking up the gals in the Discos, clubs and other party venues and thus not really aware of the P4P scene. As such, I was rather hoping that even though I did THEN not see any P4P action in Greenhills - it was only because I was not looking for it then..... and that it does .... perhaps....actually exist!! Dream on huh?!
On the other hand, I do remember a business associate taking me to a sauna somewhere in San Juan with a sort of Fishbowl with perhaps a dozen or so gals sitting around waiting to be picked. Anybody know if there are still saunas offering FS in San Juan/Greenhills area.
Or mebbe am just gonna be limited to going to Wack Wack to play golf instead of getting wacked wacked by some nice young thing??
SEAJ
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]
On the other hand, I do remember a business associate taking me to a sauna somewhere in San Juan with a sort of Fishbowl with perhaps a dozen or so gals sitting around waiting to be picked. Anybody know if there are still saunas offering FS in San Juan/Greenhills area.
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Come to think of it, there is a well known MP fairly close (about 2 kms) to where you will be staying in Greenhills. It’s called Happy Sauna and it is along E. Rodriguez in Quezon City. Any local taxi driver will know of it as it is a notorious in the area. Only tried it the once, a few years back, and this is the deal from what I recall.
It’s about 500 meters on the left as you approach from the direction of EDSA. It looks like a cheap hotel from the outside. Rooms are a bit tatty but basic and functional. Initial payment for the room for one hour and a basic sensual massage was 400 pesos (probably more now) and extras are negotiated between you and the girl. Girl wanted 800 pesos for a massage, BBBJ and covered FS. I offered her 500 pesos, which she was happy with. She was quite new and inexperienced (as I think most at Happy are) but did a pretty good job. She was about 20, quite pretty if with a little more meat on her bones than I usually prefer. You need to take your own rubbers as the ones you buy there are locally made, tight and of dubious quality.
The problem with this MP is that there is no fishbowl (so not the one you visited), even though a lot of girls work there. You get assigned a masseuse and so it’s a blind date sort of situation. I did tell the guy on reception that I wanted a young and pretty girl or I would send her back which did seem to have the desired effect. I believe that there are also girls there who do anal, if that your thing, and I guess if you mention this at reception, they will assign one of their specialists.
There is not much on Manila MP’s on this forum, so if you do decide to pay a visit, or if any other member visits or has more recent info on the place, it would be appreciated if you could submit a FR.
There are more upmarket, expensive MP’s on Quezon Ave, but I have no personal experience of these.
Aside from the listing that Cunning suppplied, heres another link
[url]http://www.philippinesbargirls.com/category/makati-massage-parlors[/url]
This seems to cover all the major places in the various parts of Manila.
Xman, et al -
Thanks for the info on the purchase of Viagra/Cialis. I went to a few Mercury's around Makati, with no success, as they all required scrips.
Not surprisingly, the one near Burgos did not, although I was told that "next time" I'd have to supply one. Bought the real thing, over the counter 20 mg each, not cheap - but certainly effective.
Like the old Timex ad says; "It takes a licking, but keeps on ticking"
Thanks again.
[QUOTE=X Man]Yep, the so called "fake" Cialis on the streets is often too strong. I bite them in half.
I've also ordered online and received a very different, but milder medicine(this "fake" stuff comes from India). Somtimes a minor headache, but usally a good 12-20 hours of good hard on action.
Tip your bar girl well. They have to work a lot harder since the introduction of these "FAKE" medicines.
X
ps: you sholud always buy from the original manufacturere....do not ever buy these "fake" medicines. Paying the premium price means you will get a higher quality product.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Betong]Or on the street anywhere else, I'd think. It amazes me how otherwise sensible people will come to Asia and get an offer from some totally dodgy character on a streetcorner and think, well, OK, that's worth a try.
At the very best you'll get a cheap Chinese or Indian generic. But just as likely, a pill that does nothing at all. Or possibly one that has something like boric acid in it, and can really do harm.[/QUOTE]I have been buying Cialis off the street in Burgos or AC routinely for a long time. Half a pill is more than enough for me for about 48 hours. Much cheaper than the drug store Cialis.
He's been pretty much unbeatable and is highly revered by the Pinays. The guy is not only a boxing phenomenon, he's a philanthropist who donates a significant portion of his purse to help the underprivelaged.
Was in manila last weekend for a wedding. Very wholesome family weekend, when what I really wanted was a weekend full of shagging. Anyways did my best to be well behaved.
Was lucky enuogh tho to use the excuse of buying dvds in Cinema Square (end of Pasay road) twice to get out for some peace.
First I checked out the new Eurotel hotel there. They can't have motels in Makati by city ordinance but as Eurotel does short time (P1200 4 hour promo rate) that may see me on my next trip to Manila.
Near to Herald Suites on far side of Cinema square is some massage place. Called Star something. 2nd floor of a building.
Anyways they provide automatic HJ for all visitors for P500. Massage is P600 if before 6pm I think.
First session was with Sam, small cute and very doable. Sadly she didn't allow any touching but had nice HJ technique.
Second visit had Diane. Nice big boobs and it wasnt surpising to either of us when after 45 minutes she made a play for Dick and I made a play for boobs.
Both ocassions good, no need to negotitate extras. The rate is P500. Decent place for a quick release.
Oh and the dvds. They also sell porn dvds if you ask. Sometimes Filipinas pretend to be shocked by them. Then as they get into it realise that they like. Well worth buyingh a few as gifts for your lady loves!
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]
..as Eurotel does short time (P1200 4 hour promo rate) that may see me on my next trip to Manila.
Oh and the dvds. They also sell porn dvds if you ask. Sometimes Filipinas pretend to be shocked by them. Then as they get into it realise that they like. Well worth buyingh a few as gifts for your lady loves![/QUOTE]
That's a bit steep for 4 hours FF. Are you sure that is not the 12 hour rate? The Pedro Gil branch charges less than P600 for a 4 hour SAW.
Your comments on Fliipina's and porn brought to mind a recent interesting experience.
Last time that I was in LA Café, I came across this little thing hiding in a corner. She was 21, from Cavite and had 1 kid. She was tiny and had a look on her face like a rabbit caught in the glare of headlights. Not particularly pretty but cute in a girl next door sort of way. She said that she had been to LA Café a few times with her friend but had only been taken out a couple of times because she was so quiet and found it difficult to approach guys and had to rely on them coming on to her. This I believe as it is exactly how I found her and it was initially difficult to squeeze all but a few words out of her.
She shyly accepted my offer of 1200 pesos ST (but turning down an extra 300p for bold photo’s – too bashful for that so no naughty pics, guys;)) and off we went to the Sogo Drive-in in Adriatico which is fairly new and has much nicer rooms than the older, tired looking rooms in the Mabini branch nearby.
Once in the room, I quickly got her naked and was surprised to see that, despite her being tiny and having had a kid, she had a smooth, unwrinkled tummy with no obvious signs of childbirth. But she had tiny little titties but with the longest nipples I have seen on a Filipina. At least an inch long, I could easily have hung my coat on them and still had room for my hat:D. Like millers thumbs they were and I couldn’t keep my hands off them.
So down for a quick bonk followed by a nice BJ and a happy finish over those perky nips. Then we settled down to watch the porno channel which I could see she was fascinated by and couldn’t keep her eyes off of. Unusually, they were showing Filipino porn instead of the usual shouty American or boring and weird Japanese stuff. I was watching out for girls that I might know (did see one familiar face), while she was just interested in the action. I was stroking her pussy the whole time and she was getting very wet and moany/groany. After bringing her off a couple of times, we got down to some really serious screwing and the quiet little girlie began to show a naughtier and much noisier side of her nature. It is often said that the quiet ones are the real goers.
All in all a fun encounter. So if you see this quiet little mouse hiding in a dark corner of LA Café, take her home and show her some porn and then make her scream like a banshee!
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]That's a bit steep for 4 hours FF. Are you sure that is not the 12 hour rate? The Pedro Gil branch charges less than P600 for a 4 hour SAW.[/QUOTE]Thats what the little gal behind the desk said.. had 4 hour promo rate, 12 hour rate and then P3500 for suite rate for 24 hours.
Anyways if you are passing by there and they tell you something different let me know. I need a place closer than Sogo in Pasay to play.
Sorry for the stupid question. I have tried to figure this out by reading the forum and it seems the answer is no, but I just thought I would check. I was wondering whether there was anything like Chinese style naked KTV in Manila? My reading suggests that the answer is not. But I was wondering what the possibility is going someplace with a group of 4-5 guys and drinking with a bunch of hot girls and getting up to some fun, maybe getting some of their clothes off? I wasn't really looking for take home or a full on orgy, just some good old fashioned R rated fun. Hopefully, at less than US$100 a head. Any recommendations?
[QUOTE=Ubersexual]Sorry for the stupid question. I have tried to figure this out by reading the forum and it seems the answer is no, but I just thought I would check. I was wondering whether there was anything like Chinese style naked KTV in Manila? My reading suggests that the answer is not. But I was wondering what the possibility is going someplace with a group of 4-5 guys and drinking with a bunch of hot girls and getting up to some fun, maybe getting some of their clothes off? I wasn't really looking for take home or a full on orgy, just some good old fashioned R rated fun. Hopefully, at less than US$100 a head. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]
Anyone ever told you there is no such thing as a stupid question?... but sometime ISG will amaze you :D
There is a full nude KTV known as Blue Pacific or Pacific Blue located in Pasay. All the taxi drivers know it. It is expensive, typical fleece joint. I dropped 15000PHP there. There is full nude dancers on stage a fish bowl and large VIP rooms for VIP "things." (Sounds like you are looking for a place that has naked girls serving the crowd? Nah.. not here)Guys standing by with towels, food etc.... Its a waste time but if full nude girls is what you looking for (rare here) it is the only spot I know...
See my report here.....
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=741436&postcount=3056[/url]
[QUOTE=Jack Sheet]Life is not without risks if it's any fun.[/QUOTE]Interesting how the whole street drug thing really divides opinions. Tourists tend to buy it on the street and not worry about it. Most expats either go to pharmacies for Indian generics or get a regular connection.
My own feeling just is that for about the same price as buying an unknown drug from a stranger, I can get something consistent and reliable from someone I know, preferably a business with its reputation on the line. Is it really better and safer? I dunno, but that's my preference. Do whatever you feel comfortable with.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]
She shyly accepted my offer of 1200 pesos ST (but turning down an extra 300p for bold photo’s – too bashful for that so no naughty pics, guys;)) and off we went to the Sogo Drive-in in Adriatico which is fairly new and has much nicer rooms than the older, tired looking rooms in the Mabini branch nearby.[/QUOTE]
CS,
I think I recall a Sogo down near Harrison Mall, but where on Adriatico is this new one?
Thanks, Skip
I will be arriving in Manila very early in the Morning. I am thinking of catching a Rabbit to AC. Does anyone know what time the first bus leaves for AC? Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Columpuss]Does anyone know what time the first bus leaves for AC? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Well before dawn. You can be there by sunrise.
[QUOTE=Columpuss]I will be arriving in Manila very early in the Morning. I am thinking of catching a Rabbit to AC. Does anyone know what time the first bus leaves for AC? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
Rest assured that it might be sparrows fart to you but its mid-morning to most Filipino's - early risers here! Starting from about 5am there will be half hourly departures to Angeles. IF you require an earlier departure head to Victory Liner on EDSA where you can get A/C buses to Dau (2km from Angeles) starting at 3am.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost]CS,
I think I recall a Sogo down near Harrison Mall, but where on Adriatico is this new one?
Thanks, Skip[/QUOTE]
Yes Skip a rather nice new option for the ST motel user in Malate. When the nasty and tired looking rooms in Mabini are full, come to these much nicer rooms close by in Adriatico and because it is so new (read unknown) and slightly dearer, you will always secure a much superior room. Its about 50 yards on the left as you approach from Quirino, almost backing onto its Mabini namesake. I have found that many taxi drivers are not aware of this new drive-in (slow learners in Manila) so you have to give strict directions to the dubious cabbie!
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]..nice new option for the ST motel user in Malate. much nicer rooms close by in Adriatico and because it is so new (read unknown)[/QUOTE]Doing a roaring trade these day's Im here to tell you!
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]I have found that many taxi drivers are not aware of this new drive-in (slow learners in Manila) so you have to give strict directions to the dubious cabbie![/QUOTE]Taxi drivers are mostly useless about finding any hotel in the area.
AV
[QUOTE=Columpuss]I will be arriving in Manila very early in the Morning. I am thinking of catching a Rabbit to AC. Does anyone know what time the first bus leaves for AC? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Columpuss,
I think first bus is around 6.am to 9.pm but why the hell do you want go to AC that early ,there are much more to do in Manila, I don't like to get to AC until 7.pm that is when the action begin anyway.
Fast eddie 48
thanks guys
I tried to google for such info but none. I am so used to Swagman's, but this time the 4 o'clock arrival stomped me.
[QUOTE=Illogic]Anyone ever told you there is no such thing as a stupid question?... but sometime ISG will amaze you :D
There is a full nude KTV known as Blue Pacific or Pacific Blue located in Pasay. All the taxi drivers know it. It is expensive, typical fleece joint. I dropped 15000PHP there. There is full nude dancers on stage a fish bowl and large VIP rooms for VIP "things." (Sounds like you are looking for a place that has naked girls serving the crowd? Nah.. not here)Guys standing by with towels, food etc.... Its a waste time but if full nude girls is what you looking for (rare here) it is the only spot I know...
See my report here.....
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=741436&postcount=3056[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks. Looks like the Manila trip is postponed. Will report when it happens.
Just on my way to Manila and my local intel informs me that my usual sports bar in P. Burgos, Makati that usually shows the Ashes' cricket series has recently closed down.
Do any cricket fans have any idea about what bar in Manila may be showing the upcoming 5th Test starting this Thursday night?
[QUOTE=Osakagin]Just on my way to Manila and my local intel informs me that my usual sports bar in P. Burgos, Makati that usually shows the Ashes' cricket series has recently closed down.
Do any cricket fans have any idea about what bar in Manila may be showing the upcoming 5th Test starting this Thursday night?[/QUOTE]Go to Howzat. Must be on there. But which bar has closed down. Visiting next week.
[QUOTE=Osakagin]Just on my way to Manila and my local intel informs me that my usual sports bar in P. Burgos, Makati that usually shows the Ashes' cricket series has recently closed down.
Do any cricket fans have any idea about what bar in Manila may be showing the upcoming 5th Test starting this Thursday night?[/QUOTE]And hopefully Osakagin you are an English fan.. Enger-land Enger-land Enger-land.
[QUOTE=Dannah Mae09]Hi,
Why I'm back nor what happened.[/QUOTE]Why don't you post a picture?
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]And hopefully Osakagin you are an English fan.. Enger-land Enger-land Enger-land.[/QUOTE]Chappell, Lillee, Waugh... your boys took one hell of a beating.
[QUOTE=Dannah Mae09]Hi,
Well, it's been quite a while after my last post here for advertisement purposes. Maybe some of you have some question's in mind, why I'm back nor what happened. Yes, 3yrs passed away and here I am again offering the same thing. I have so many decision's in life that I thought will help me to be on the right track and not picturing out to go back here and do the same, but I have to and will just do this for short period of time.
Everyone who help me before, you know who you are. I owe you a lot, maybe I not been honest with some of you but I thank this site because I know someone who taught me that there's a lot of things life can offer.
So here I am again, dannah mae a 23yr old, bachelor degree holder and currently employed for a US based company morely called here in the PI as Contact Center. A choice that other might disagree, but I hope that other understand the reason why Im back here. I'm apologizing if I cannot able to emphasize my reasoning but will tell you if ever we seen each other.
For those people who will be interested to have a GFE, Sex guides and other stuff that a girl can offer you can send me a PM so I will give you some of my information as before then will send you my recent photo's, contact nos and rates.
Enjoy hunting and take note, to those who go frequently in LA cafe, be carefull with those planted girls who will ruin your stay.
Thank you![/QUOTE]Dannah mae,
Welcome back now you are older and wiser ,sorry I was in Manila last month but not planning another trip to PI until next yr ,I hope that you did ok last 3 yr on your job .
Is all your girl friend still around ,I know that jackson remove your old forum all th photo is gone ,I wish you the best of luck in the future .
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Diet Cola]Chappell, Lillee, Waugh. Your boys took one hell of a beating.[/QUOTE]Lillee. Hm I saw him at Headingly against England. But I was still a schoolboy then. So either you have a great memory or you've been trawling the arcchives. Yes the Aussies have had some good players in past. Respect due. But equally, I could say Botham, Flintoff and Pieterson. Your boys also took one hell of a beating.
Happy day to a fellow cricket fan.
[QUOTE=Dannah Mae09]Devils 1,
Why don't you post a picture?
For some purposes but if you wanted to have the photo's feel free to ask and I will send it to you directly into your email account.
Thank you and enjoy!
DM[/QUOTE]DM,
I think you should start the DM thread again and post some current photo and some of your friend photo, too bad Shelia is off the market, I was looking forward to meet her 3 yr ago as she fake out.
Fast Eddie 48
The toes are twitching the fingers tingling and the Durex packed. It must be another Manila trip in the offing.
Plan as always is rather hectic, but heck I'm not there for the scenery.
Will arrive mid afternoon and as per schedule will meet a nice 20 year old lady who I have dated and bedded previously. She will be waiting for me at the mall. After 3 hours with her, my phone will ring (alarm preset) and I will have to leave her. "Sorry honey I thought we could have the night together" She will of course be happy with her see thru panties, some chocolates, and maybe p 500 for her taxi fare. Will drop her at the mall and then at same mall and 30 minutes later will meet the second of the evenings victims. This is a new one. 27 single mom, works in Ortigas, looks nice on cam. Sent me lots of " am so excited to meet you " sms. Says has never dated a foreigner.
She too will be excited by the trashy nightie that I have for her and the crotchless panties as she says she has never seen or heard of such things.
Will either keep her for the night or throw her out late.
Next day wil meet a lady from Gensan. Weve been chatting for 2 years and never met so thought it time to meet and nail her. 30 with kid. Says she will be happy to be tied up and she will have high heels and black stockings and suspender belt from me for my viewing pleasure. She will stay two nights, but somewhere on day she arrives I will get free time to go to Burgos. Theres an old friend I need to see.
Next day. Hmm think will breakfast with Ms Gensan then leave her in hotel as I have " business meetings". This will involve going to a mall, and meeting another " regular". Only this time, she will bring an innocent friend who will watch our deeds of derring do. Oh and she also asked if I can slap her a bit and pull her hair. I guess I can do that. THen later back to hotel for Ms Gen San and a night out in Burgos with her maybe.
Next day. Will drop Ms Gen San at airport. Then not sure who or where to go. I will have 2 hours free. There is a gal near the mall, who I'm chatting with, desperate for money. Part time web cam gal. I'm assuming I'm totally drained with no chance of an erection by then so maybe meet webcam gal and take pics.
Ah. It promises to be fun. And as exhausting as usual.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Rest assured that it might be sparrows fart to you but its mid-morning to most Filipino's - early risers here! Starting from about 5am there will be half hourly departures to Angeles. IF you require an earlier departure head to Victory Liner on EDSA where you can get A/C buses to Dau (2km from Angeles) starting at 3am.[/QUOTE]No way in hell I'm gonna be catching a bus at 3am!! I'll be staying in Malate and was wondering where the nearest bus terminal is for me to catch a reasonable time bus to AC? Is it worth just heading down to Victory Liner?
[QUOTE=Aussie Fella]No way in hell I'm gonna be catching a bus at 3am!! I'll be staying in Malate and was wondering where the nearest bus terminal is for me to catch a reasonable time bus to AC? Is it worth just heading down to Victory Liner?[/QUOTE]G'day cobber!
This should help a fellow ozzie get where he needs to be :D
[url]http://www.margarita-station.com/angeles.html[/url]
[url]http://www.swaggy.com/travel/index_travel.htm[/url]
Enjoy!
AV
Oops I did it again. Had another Manila trip that is.
Arrived and within an hour of arriving theres a sweet young 20 year old no kid, waiting for me in the mall where I usually meet my "friends.". Sweet girl. She knows we are going to have sex, doesn't know when I will kick her out but is nice and accepting. Well sure enough, we meet, go to my place, make out, get to bed. And after 2 hours I check the time. And we get dressed then drop her at the mall again. Then its time to meet a new friend. 27 with kid. She arrives at the right time. Looks fine, we both know we will have sex. So we have a drink, litle preliminary touching of arms, legs etc. All seemingly accidentally but we both know where it leads. Back to my place, and soon enough things are getting hot. Nice slim body with no sign of her having had a kid. Wander to the bed, then she tells me its end of her period. Hmm hate that but what to do. Close my eyes and go for it. LOL. She says she can't go back to her place so I agree to let her stay. Mistake. Shes a clinger. Holds onto me all night like a limpet. No matter how often I kick her away. Anyways. Nice blow in the am and then throw her out.
So now I have an hour or two spare. Go to Cinema Square to buy dvds. I ask the serving girl if they have porn. She takes me inside the store, and leaves me at cashier counter. I assume she going to get some porn dvds. She returns and I say wheres the porn. She points at the PHONE and says its there Sir. So funny. They had lots of nice porn which I find the girls like as gifts almost as much as chocolate. Then go to airport to meet lady from Gen San. Chatted for two years and never met. Shes small dark and cute with hot lips. Just the way I like it. Drive to hotel, then of course to bed. Spend all afternoon in bed but can feel I'm getting tited of sex. Amazing thought.
Take a break from her and go drinking in Burgos. Take her out for a drink then drop her in hotel. Go back drinking and see old friend in one bar. Known her 4 years and shes only 22. Drive home as I don't want an overnight stay with another lady. Next day did some work, checked the Gen San girl is ok and meet another old friend at the mall. She had told me she would bring a friend to watch us boom boom. Theres a friend there with her, but shes really big. Almost obese. No way I want her watching me. That makes a big scene. Anyways me and the old friend go to Sogo but bad moods all round. Quick poke then drop her off.
Back to hotel to see Gen San girl and make sure shes got money for dinner. Then decide I need some drinking not sex. Hit several bars and see lots of old friends in Burgos. Go home late.
Next day. Go pick up Gen San girl and have morning poke, take her to airport and we say goodbyes. Wil robably never see her again. I had planned to see the very first girl again for sex. But to be honest, I was too damn tired. Maybe too much sex? Anyways met the first girl for Starbucks only. Took plane home.
All is not lost however as I have a Thai freebie meeting me later this week on my business trip. Lifes good!
It's nice to see AVD helping others, even if it seems to be directed at his own kind.
Good luck cobbers!
X
[QUOTE=Amavida]G'day cobber!
This should help a fellow ozzie get where he needs to be :D
[url]http://www.margarita-station.com/angeles.html[/url]
[url]http://www.swaggy.com/travel/index_travel.htm[/url]
Enjoy!
AV[/QUOTE]
During my last trip. There were a few I didn't get to see (too little time and too much to do) Anyways got some moans and groans type Ym offline messages about why I didn't see one.
I told her, next time we will meet and have sex right. (just so that there was no misunderstanding). Her reply below
"Yap, and I'll wait that time. I give a romantic sex to you. And dats my pr0mise. Bye ingat ka. L0ve you. Mwuuahh."
Shooting fish in a barrel is harder work than this.
La. Cafe, June 09'
You might have seen this girl before. I seen her 3 nights in a row always upstairs. The first night, she came towards me shaking her fine little ass. I was vibing with her but was acting as if she was all that (super fine). So I played it smooth as if I wasn't interested in her but kept joking & playing with her. She asked for 2000 php for ST & a drink. I passed on the offer, but bought her a drink. She took 1 sip & went shaking her ass some where else.
The next night, she came at me looking fine as hell, asking for a drink. Bought her a drink & asked for 1000 php for ST. She laughed in my face and finally took a sip of her drink. We were playing games acting like we were both all that, & acting as if we didn't like each other. I told her you don't have to chill with me just because I bought you a drink. She said " I know" & went shaking her ass some where else.
The next night, she just sat next to me & looked at me with a disgusted face. So you know I had to clown her (talk shit) to make her laugh. She went on the chase freaking a couple of dudes in front of the live band & I went downstairs. I went back upstairs at about 3 am & it was starting to get empty. Chilled for a second & headed for the stairs. She came half way down the stairs & pushed me against the wall. She said "I want to fuck you" & I finally grabbed her tiny tight ass.
She complained that she needs to take the taxi to the Lotus Garden Hotel which is about 3 block away. So we take the taxi & then she complained about how small the room is & the smell as well.
She blasts th TV & starts singing & dancing to the Miriah Carey song on MTV. After we take a shower, she shakes her ass on all four, all over me as I lay in bed. I rubbed her pussy & it's already wet as she gave me CBJ. We did all positions for a while. Before I busted, I had to grab her hair doggy style & yanked it a couple of times for complaining so much. But she reacted as if she enjoyed it. Gave her 1500 php & before she left she kept saying "I don't know about you" I told her I think you like me, don't think about me too much. She finally gave me a cool smile & she was on her way.
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[QUOTE=High Five]La. Cafe, June 09'
You might have seen this girl before. I seen her 3 nights in a row always upstairs. [/QUOTE]High Five,
that is one great looking chick! I would love to see her eyes because she appears to be as pretty as a model?
Sounds like the service was kind of business like and mechanical...i mean who has ever heard of a covered BJ in the Phils.
one question, how come she has on two different outfits in the pics if you only had her one time?
[QUOTE=Devils 1]
one question, how come she has on two different outfits in the pics if you only had her one time?[/QUOTE]
She brought a change of clothes for her next mark. Filipinas do that, fresh clothes, thorougly wash buttholes and so no angel wings.
[QUOTE=Devils 1]High Five,
that is one great looking chick! I would love to see her eyes because she appears to be as pretty as a model?
Sounds like the service was kind of business like and mechanical...i mean who has ever heard of a covered BJ in the Phils.
one question, how come she has on two different outfits in the pics if you only had her one time?[/QUOTE]D1,
She's pretty but tiny. She's so into herself, she grabbed my camera & took pictures of herself for about 5 min. She has an attitude of a model. I was tripping on her white perfectly aligned set of teeth though.
I think she might have worn the black dress after we finished. Good eye, I didn't even catch that. I went to A. C. The next day but I wouldn't mind taking her for a ride again.
Peace,
H5
Thanks guys, for providing the updated info on Manila.
Just came back and as expected, practically the whole trip was centered around family and friends gatherings etc. Amazing how large, families are still in the PI!
Everytime I come back from the PI, I get amazed at all that goes on there - and on this particular time, I was truly amazed that the International financial crisis seems to not have affected Manila at all! Stores and restaurants etc are all still doing a roaring business and everybody seems to be still all out and about just enjoying! A friend told me its because the PI has always been in a recession - and as such, the latest "recession" is no big deal and people just go on with their lives.
But the uber-luxe stores at Green belt Five, the 70 feet Italian yacht (the old one was too small at 50 feet!!), the US$15,000 Kelly (?) handbag flaunted about, the P3.5 million Suburban.... for the body guards! - all this just blew my mind!
But the ladies - oh yes, the ladies, they're all still there and ever so sweet (no particular memorable etc experience to warrant a report) and all still available at a resonable price. You guys got it good there.
Again thanks to one and all for all the information etc. Ciao
SEAJ
Hi bro out there,
I'm planning a week holiday to manila at the end of Oct. Currently i'm looking at to book my accommodation at Renaissance Hotel in Makati. Would appreciate any guidance so that I will have a pleasant mongering holiday while I'm there.
Regards,
SD KL
[QUOTE=High Five]She's so into herself, she grabbed my camera & took pictures of herself for about 5 min. She has an attitude of a model. H5[/QUOTE]Thats common amongst the better looking &/or better off chicks I mix with here. The endless self portraits with cell phones...
AV
[QUOTE=Amavida]Thats common amongst the better looking &/or better off chicks I mix with here. The endless self portraits with cell phones...
AV[/QUOTE]That is common among ALL Filipinas. If you see one with a cell phone and it is a camera, you can bet it is loaded with self-pictures:D
[QUOTE=Robbaf]That is common among ALL Filipinas. If you see one with a cell phone and it is a camera, you can bet it is loaded with self-pictures:D[/QUOTE]True dat! :D
Defeats the purpose of the forum but, this is for the people who enjoys a good massage. Mont Albo massage hut on Padre Fuara & Orosa St. Right across the St. from the entrance to the Robinson's Mall. 350 PHP for a 1 hr. session. Tranquil & ethereal with a water trickling sound in the background. Just what I needed to sooth my mind from the ruckus of the city. [url]www.montalbomassage.com[/url]
[quote=freebiefan]
i told her, next time we will meet and have sex right. (just so that there was no misunderstanding). her reply below
"yap, and i'll wait that time. i give a romantic sex to you. and dats my pr0mise. bye ingat ka. l0ve you. mwuuahh."
shooting fish in a barrel is harder work than this.[/quote]
i got an amusing text recently from a civvy gf, who on our last meeting i had joked with that i really wanted to bust her ass cherry.
"blah,blah...if u bought celfon n70 4 me, i wil give my ass to you..haha!tc.yeah realy dats real'.
unfortunately i'm on the road at the moment so won't be able to take her up on her offer for a few weeks.
anyone know how much a new/secondhand n70 goes for and where i will pick one up the cheapest? i'm in india at the moment ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor mongering opportunities here ...lol) and will be traveling through thailand (yippee!!), vietnam and china. which has the cheapest cp's?
or maybe they are cheaper in the philippines.
:d ;) :d
[quote=cunning stunt]i got an amusing text recently from a civvy gf, who on our last meeting i had joked with that i really wanted to bust her ass cherry.
"blah,blah...if u bought celfon n70 4 me, i wil give my ass to you..haha!tc.yeah realy dats real'.
unfortunately i'm on the road at the moment so won't be able to take her up on her offer for a few weeks.
anyone know how much a new/secondhand n70 goes for and where i will pick one up the cheapest? i'm in india at the moment ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor mongering opportunities here ...lol) and will be traveling through thailand (yippee!!), vietnam and china. which has the cheapest cp's?
or maybe they are cheaper in the philippines.
:d ;) :d[/quote]
buy her a "made in china special" n70 - what we call xanchai fones, at approx us$70 brand new in china or at those "china market places" in manila like at the greenhills mall 2nd floor for just a bit more.
they many times also have 2nd hand fones and depends on how new it is/how recent the model is, you can expect at least 50% off.
seaj
[quote=cunning stunt]i got an amusing text recently from a civvy gf, who on our last meeting i had joked with that i really wanted to bust her ass cherry.
"blah,blah...if u bought celfon n70 4 me, i wil give my ass to you..haha!tc.yeah realy dats real'.
unfortunately i'm on the road at the moment so won't be able to take her up on her offer for a few weeks.
anyone know how much a new/secondhand n70 goes for and where i will pick one up the cheapest? i'm in india at the moment ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor mongering opportunities here ...lol) and will be traveling through thailand (yippee!!), vietnam and china. which has the cheapest cp's?
or maybe they are cheaper in the philippines.
:d ;) :d[/quote]or try cinema square at end of pasay road if thats closer to home. always lots of second hand ones there. it can't be much. i'm suprised the lady in question has no higher ambitions than a n70 which is out of production these days. i hear most are hoping for an i phone these days.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Or try Cinema Square at end of Pasay Road if thats closer to home. Always lots of second hand ones there. It can't be much. I'm suprised the lady in question has no higher ambitions than a N70 which is out of production these days. I hear most are hoping for an I phone these days.[/QUOTE]
$600-900 dollars worth of modern technology. One of my recent pick ups from Makati/Flamingo had one. Said it was a gift from a "friend." Must be some damn friend.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]I'm suprised the lady in question has no higher ambitions than a N70 which is out of production these days.[/QUOTE]Many Pinays seem stuck in the past about cp's because they lust after BIG flashy cp's due to their over the top tastes. The BIG older nokia's with lots of buttons & weird styling are still favored because they are seen as more 'impressive'.
Many only know what they are told by cousins/friends so N70 etc is passed on from one to another as a the thing to ask for LOL! :)
They know about iPhones but shy away from anything so bafflingly different as to have NO buttons..
If a chick is asking for an iPhone she is from the wealthy class or she has mileage with foreigners..
AV
[QUOTE=Amavida]If a chick is asking for an iPhone she is from the wealthy class or she has mileage with foreigners..
AV[/QUOTE]Thats a "fo sure "...I had one cute Pinay recently and was showing her my itouch.. wasnt interested in internet, the 1000 songs sort of registered but the fact you could enlarge photos and flip thru them msnually really excited her... face was like a kids in the proverbial store that sells sugared edible products.
I saw iPhones in Manila long before they were officially released in the Phils. At that time, they were brought in from the US or HK and they cost about pp30,000. There is a shop in the Mall of Asia where the technicians helped to jailbreak, unlock, restore, etc. I don't remember the name of the shop but it's upstairs above the outdoor food court and to the right facing the bay. Turns out buying them in HK was a better deal because HK required the iPhones to be unlocked out of the box.
[QUOTE=Finrod]There is a shop in the Mall of Asia where the technicians helped to jailbreak, unlock, restore, etc.[/QUOTE]Tons & tons of places in all the big malls for getting stuff like this done to a cp.[QUOTE=Finrod]Turns out buying them in HK was a better deal because HK required the iPhones to be unlocked out of the box.[/QUOTE]Yes. Some cp's have been around on the market long enough to have well proven firmware for unlocking but many models dont. I recall taking a Nokia 6120 for unlocking, they claimed to have achieved it with a "Turbo Sim" which I stupidly paid 1,000php for in a moment of weakness.
Dont waste your money. These things unlock your handset for about an hour whereupon a signal from the Telco will reboot your handset & relock it.
Tried it with 3 different sims (Smart/Globe/Sun).
AV
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Buy her a "Made in China special" N70 - what we call xanchai fones, at approx uS$70 brand new in China or at those "China Market places" in Manila like at the Greenhills mall 2nd floor for just a bit more.
[/QUOTE]
Have to keep a lookout for one of these when I'm in China. $70 for an ass cherry has to be a fair deal;). Are they copies or real Nokia's made under licence?
[QUOTE=FreebieFan] It can't be much. I'm suprised the lady in question has no higher ambitions than a N70 which is out of production these days. I hear most are hoping for an I phone these days.[/QUOTE]
She is a modest girl! My good luck:D.
Most Filipinas would be totally baffled by the technology represented by an IPhone and why anyone would pay a bundle to give one to a gf is beyond me. It would be sat in the display cabinet of the nearest pawn shop before you could say 'Apple'. This is why most have clunky older models - if a bf gives them a decent up-to-date model, it is usually cash converted as soon as he is on the plane!
Same applies to gold jewelery or any other expensive gifts.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Have to keep a lookout for one of these when I'm in China. $70 for an ass cherry has to be a fair deal;). Are they copies or real Nokia's made under licence?
.[/QUOTE]
Of course fake ones!! But they're pretty good and quite a few of them has better features than the real ones.
I've got a mongering fone that has all the features of the real ones - plus can accept 2 sims cards, quad band, has the ezyABC message writer - that I've used in all parts of Asia (not japan yet, but supposedly it will work there too) and the States/Canada for the past year or so.
SEAJ
Which is better for mongering?
How much is a beer in PI?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Badboy6910]Which is better for mongering?
How much is a beer in PI?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Both are great for mongering. Cebu has a lot of expats living there, so you don't get a lot of stares. I am in Mindanao and sometimes you are the first, second or third Foreigner that they have seen.
Beer is cheap. Here in Mindanao I pay 28P for a SML, but in Cebu it can run up to 120P and same with Manila.
Any location in the Philippines is great:D
Robb
Just a Quickie! This days off it was only 7 hours in Manila and back to the States for 9 days instead of Cebu, bummer! An 8 hour flight to Manila and the 22 total hour flight to the states the next morning left me not very energetic to hit the bars and pick up a quick one. So I opted to meet an FH girl I have been chatting with for a couple months. I never met her but had seen her on the cam. I really wanted a massage and she had done it professionally, so I said what the hell. She met me at my hotel just after check in and up we went. Not to bad as I was a little worried never meeting her in person. She was 29 years old and working lagit massage in Manila, so she says. After my 3 beers and her 1, it was time for an oil massage. It was good, definitely not the best I have had. Then DATY and one round. She told me not to use a rubber just don't blow one inside. Don't know whats wrong with these girls, but I wasn't taking a chance with this one. So after that took an hour nap and didn't even go for one more after I woke. I gave her 1000 pesos for the massage. I won't be repeating as it I would rate the performance a 4 and the massage a 6. Back to the airport and then got a massage at the airport massage parlor. It is exactly what I needed and rate that one a 9. On this quick turn, I should of got a professional for a couple rounds and stuck with the massage in the airport. Live and learn. I'm back in Manila in 7 days and overnight before heading to Cebu for only 3 days. I will definitely be hitting the bars for a good one for the night.
Will report!
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Hello!
The reports and opinions on Manila are overwhelming so I am sorry for asking a question that most likely was addressed before.
I need an advice on a girl friendly hotel in Manila. GE advised me on a good one previously, but this one is in the middle of Gomorrah and I need a more neutral one for a girl that I will see.
Will most likely call in some other girl later on as well, so preferably not to much procedures surrounding bringing in a guest, please.
Price does not matter. Would be great with a good location close to a mall, a pool, sauna and a gym. And perhaps transfer service from the airport. Sometimes it's comfortable to be lazy.
Thanks!
Barba
Hi,
Well, it's been quite a while after my last post here for advertisement purposes. Maybe some of you have some question's in mind, why I'm back nor what happened. Yes, 3yrs passed away and here I am again offering the same thing. I have so many decision's in life that I thought will help me to be on the right track and not picturing out to go back here and do the same, but I have to and will just do this for short period of time.
Everyone who help me before, you know who you are. I owe you a lot, maybe I not been honest with some of you but I thank this site because I know someone who taught me that there's a lot of things life can offer.
So here I am again, Dannah Mae a 23yr old, bachelor degree holder and currently employed for a US based company morely called here in the PI as Contact Center. A choice that other might disagree, but I hope that other understand the reason why I'm back here. I'm apologizing if I cannot able to emphasize my reasoning but will tell you if ever we seen each other.
For those people who will be interested to have a GFE, Sex guides and other stuff that a girl can offer you can send me a PM so I will give you some of my information as before then will send you my recent photo's, contact nos and rates. But if ever you cannot able to send PM try to send me thru this email; [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue] and contact me thru this nos [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue] for more details and photo's. Check this [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]
Enjoy hunting and take note, to those who go frequently in LA Cafe, be carefull with those planted girls who will ruin your stay.
Thank you!
DM
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[QUOTE=Dannah Mae09]Yes, 3yrs passed away and here I am again offering the same thing.
For those people who will be interested to have a GFE, Sex guides and other stuff that a girl can offer you can send me a PM so I will give you some of my information as before then will send you my recent photo's, contact nos and rates.[/QUOTE]Dannah, Weren't you supposed to go back to school? It doesn't seem like you have learned much in the intervening years because here you are again making the same mistakes advertising escort services in a discussion thread. Before the same useless arguments erupt, couldn't you consider to post your ads to either the [url=www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2404]Classified Ads[/url] or the [url=www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2457]Internet Escorts[/url] threads. Don't get me wrong, I am completely supportive of enterprising girls, but there is a better place for commercial escorts to flog services.
Given the previous experience, I am surprised you are trawling for customers here, where anything above PHP1000 for short time draws negative replies from the bottom-feeders. Have you considered posting to places like sexyescortads.com where escorts can advertise so-called premium services for premium prices? I know for a fact that if a provider sets herself up right, she can make way more than a call center manager... my ex-Indon squeeze was pulling in USD1.5-2k/month. Good luck. AsianRain
I agree with Robbaf that you can do well in both places, but for a first timer, I'd recommend the MNL/AC circuit if p4p is your primary reason for coming.
Robbaf, How much ice did you have to put in that 28p beer to get it cold? :-)
As much as I love Mindanao, esp Davao, you often can't get very cold beer.
MNL, AC, Cebu bars (with their much larger foreign customer base) usually put a cold frosty one in front of you. Usually...
X
[QUOTE=Robbaf]Both are great for mongering. Cebu has a lot of expats living there, so you don't get a lot of stares. I am in Mindanao and sometimes you are the first, second or third Foreigner that they have seen.
Beer is cheap. Here in Mindanao I pay 28P for a SML, but in Cebu it can run up to 120P and same with Manila.
Any location in the Philippines is great:D
Robb[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Asian Rain] Have you considered posting to places like sexyescortads.com where escorts can advertise so-called premium services for premium prices? I know for a fact that if a provider sets herself up right, she can make way more than a call center manager... my ex-Indon squeeze was pulling in USD1.5-2k/month. Good luck. AsianRain[/QUOTE]
Escorttown is another good site for Philippines escorts at premium prices. Girls there ask for and apparently get P5000 for ST. Crazy!! Mind you they are mostly all young stunners (although there are scammers and agencies on there as well) who often claim to be students. Got one rather nice looking 21 year old to agree to a 2 pop ST with photo's for 2T recently but wasn't able to get around to seeing her yet.
Dannah - what exactly are you offering? How about a recent photo?
[QUOTE=Badboy6910]Which is better for mongering?
How much is a beer in PI?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Robbaf,
Because you know the lay of the land - I will direct this question towards you - It seems to me that Cebu has a lot of expats and therefore are no longer a novelty - so maybe Cebu is not so good for non-pro mongering. Is this true?
To expand upon Badboy's question - Where is it better for mongering for the non-pro?
Casino is the first bar on the left as you walk into EDSA complex, they are bit pushy with drinks and constantly trying to get you to order the next drink before you even finish yours. Picked a cutie who jumped on me as soon as I walked in, she was very nice and sweet in the club, rather tall for a filippina (5'6) 25 year old Keyla, real name Janet. Typical story, 2-year old child, no boyfriend to support her and working in the bar for 1 month. I felt bad for her, as I always do.
Paid the barfine of 1400P and brought her back to the Sofitel where, to my surprise, she was not even asked for her ID (at 2:00AM).
Everything was OK, we showered and she washed me, then we went to bed. That is where I was reminded that appearances can unfortunately be deceiving. Not at all motivated, a very smelly pussy, which completely turned me off and when I looked at her closely she had rather red eyes. I tried to go through the motions but could not. Told her why and to get checked, she said she has a medical exam every 5 weeks and will see a doctor tomorrow... I sent her off early with 2K and she was happy to go.
I don't know if a smelly pussy is a sign of infection but I suppose it could very well be, so that is a no-no. Of course I was covered during the failed attempt to do the deed but I had started by performing DATY, which is when I noticed the bad odor.
That being said there were several cuties in the bar, I did not at all find the quality to be average or mediocre as suggested in other reports. Just picked the wrong one... Will try to do better tomorrow.
[QUOTE=Mahal]Casino is the first bar on the left as you walk into EDSA complex, they are bit pushy with drinks and constantly trying to get you to order the next drink before you even finish yours. Picked a cutie who jumped on me as soon as I walked in, she was very nice and sweet in the club, rather tall for a filippina (5'6) 25 year old Keyla, real name Janet. Typical story, 2-year old child, no boyfriend to support her and working in the bar for 1 month. I felt bad for her, as I always do.
Paid the barfine of 1400P and brought her back to the Sofitel where, to my surprise, she was not even asked for her ID (at 2:00AM).
Everything was OK, we showered and she washed me, then we went to bed. That is where I was reminded that appearances can unfortunately be deceiving. Not at all motivated, a very smelly pussy, which completely turned me off and when I looked at her closely she had rather red eyes. I tried to go through the motions but could not. Told her why and to get checked, she said she has a medical exam every 5 weeks and will see a doctor tomorrow... I sent her off early with 2K and she was happy to go.
I don't know if a smelly pussy is a sign of infection but I suppose it could very well be, so that is a no-no. Of course I was covered during the failed attempt to do the deed but I had started by performing DATY, which is when I noticed the bad odor.
That being said there were several cuties in the bar, I did not at all find the quality to be average or mediocre as suggested in other reports. Just picked the wrong one... Will try to do better tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Try Florence out from the Casino Bar. She also has a friend that is about 4'7" if you like that. Did them both and had a ball. Repeated on Florence and was even better. She is about 6-7 in the looks department, but definitely good in the sack.
The Firehouse usually has more stunners there. A bit pricier though.
Peace out!
I'm going to Boracay and Angeles city next week. Any advices or recommendations , specially in Boracay? (Girl friendly place, where to get good girls, prices, where to get "special massage", etc.)
Salamat
[QUOTE=Mahal]Everything was OK, we showered and she washed me, then we went to bed. That is where I was reminded that appearances can unfortunately be deceiving. Not at all motivated, a very smelly pussy, which completely turned me off exam every 5 weeks and will see a doctor tomorrow... I sent her off early with 2K and she was happy to go.
I don't know if a smelly pussy is a sign of infection but I suppose it could very well be, so that is a no-no. Of course I was covered during the failed attempt to do the deed but I had started by performing DATY, which is when I noticed the bad odor.[/QUOTE]
I have said time and time again the quality of the girls at EDSA are about on par with what one can find at LA however the other GO-GO option of Burgos is ridiculously priced.
Yes Ana the well known nympho (24) who really can't get enough and is yet very nice on the eye, is back in business. Her bf broke off and now she needs it badly. Guess its a good time for negotiating skills. Just contact me for her number and she is ready for you all. As I have said before, she is a very classy act and definitely one of the highlights of my f. G career. I will visit Manila in November and she will be my first choice. But meantime enjoy all of you.
Good Luck /AW
[QUOTE=Barba]Hello!
I need an advice on a girl friendly hotel in Manila. GE advised me on a good one previously, but this one is in the middle of Gomorrah and I need a more neutral one for a girl that I will see.
Price does not matter. Would be great with a good location close to a mall, a pool, sauna and a gym. And perhaps transfer service from the airport. Sometimes it's comfortable to be lazy.
Thanks!
Barba[/QUOTE]
Hi Barba
I always stay in the Dusit (as does GE) and will be again shortly, central to Makati, Glorietta, Greenbelt, not that pricey but certainly more expensive than Oxford Suites which is another favourite of mine. Also stayed in the InterCon and Shangri-La before and none have ever asked the girls for any ID etc These 2 are also in same vicinity as Dusit and clsoe to (ie wlking distance) to the malls.
All pricey but comfortable and have gyms etc - but I dont use those areas need to save my strength for other hobbies :D
i visited a couple of months ago the fusion massage in metro manila. the place is located at roxas blvd. close to the airport and i discovered it from a web site. the deal there is a very good massage with hj. i am not sure if other services are offered but my guess is that you will hardly get something else than a hj. maybe if you are a regular and you develop a "relation" with one of the "therapists".
the shops is rather small, clean, with small cubicles all of them separated with "thin" walls. one hour of massage (including hj) will cost you 1300 php. the massage is excellent and extremely sensual and relaxing. there is not a single point in your body that will not receive a massage. while you are lying in your stomach and once the "therapist" massages your lower body part, she will thoroughly touche your genitals for many minutes and then she will start a hj. you then turn up side down and you receive an amazing hj. after this you will be cleaned with a towel and the massage will continue in the rest of your body.
i've been there twice and in the second time my "therapist" took of her clothes but kept her (very sexy) under-wares. touching was allowed in any part of the body.
you can add to the experience the so called "quickwash" (500 php) where your therapist will give you a proper cleaning in the shower so all excessive oil will disappear.
more information on the place at:
[url]http://www.freewebs.com/knowfusion/fusionpassages.htm[/url]
please note that if you take a taxi and you say the address the most probable thing is that you will end up at the bayview hotel which is on the totally opposite site of the roxas blvd and far away from the fusion. my advice is once you get in the taxi to call the place and ask the girl to give directions to the taxi driver.
i thought bayview was in ermita (on roxas), which is quite a ways from the airport. it's late, so maybe i've confused my hotels.
as for a massage that doesn't miss a "single point" and the girl gets half naked, i find it hard to believe that they only offer hj. but if you were happy with what they gave you, i'm sure life is good.
to each their own. x
[quote=lifeingr]i visited a couple of months ago the fusion massage in metro manila. the place is located at roxas blvd. close to the airport and i discovered it from a web site. the deal there is a very good massage with hj. i am not sure if other services are offered but my guess is that you will hardly get something else than a hj. maybe if you are a regular and you develop a "relation" with one of the "therapists".
the shops is rather small, clean, with small cubicles all of them separated with "thin" walls. one hour of massage (including hj) will cost you 1300 php. the massage is excellent and extremely sensual and relaxing. there is not a single point in your body that will not receive a massage. while you are lying in your stomach and once the "therapist" massages your lower body part, she will thoroughly touche your genitals for many minutes and then she will start a hj. you then turn up side down and you receive an amazing hj. after this you will be cleaned with a towel and the massage will continue in the rest of your body.
i've been there twice and in the second time my "therapist" took of her clothes but kept her (very sexy) under-wares. touching was allowed in any part of the body.
you can add to the experience the so called "quickwash" (500 php) where your therapist will give you a proper cleaning in the shower so all excessive oil will disappear.
more information on the place at:
[url]http://www.freewebs.com/knowfusion/fusionpassages.htm[/url]
please note that if you take a taxi and you say the address the most probable thing is that you will end up at the bayview hotel which is on the totally opposite site of the roxas blvd and far away from the fusion. my advice is once you get in the taxi to call the place and ask the girl to give directions to the taxi driver.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Mahal]
I don't know if a smelly pussy is a sign of infection but I suppose it could very well be, so that is a no-no. Of course I was covered during the failed attempt to do the deed but I had started by performing DATY, which is when I noticed the bad odor.
[/QUOTE]
If a pussy smells sick it probably is very sick! Hope you gargled with an antiseptic rinse after the DATY. It is possible to get a dose of gonorrhea in the throat among other things. Red eyes/conjunctivitis can be a sign of gonorrheal infection of the eye.
[url]http://www.ashastd.org/learn/learn_gonorrhea.cfm#4[/url]
[QUOTE=X Man]I thought Bayview was in Ermita (on Roxas), which is quite a ways from the airport. It's late, so maybe I've confused my hotels.[/QUOTE]
This is what I am saying that the Bayview hotel is far away from the Fusion who is on the Bayview tower.
[QUOTE=X Man]As for a massage that doesn't miss a "single point" and the girl gets half naked, I find it hard to believe that they only offer HJ. But if you were happy with what they gave you, I'm sure life is good.
To each their own. X[/QUOTE]
yes maybe the offer other services too but I was quite happy with the HJ. Some posts in other forums confirm also that HJ is the standard option.
@ x
it is just across from the coastal mall along roxas blvrd. so - perhaps 7 minutes from the airport (on a good day).
and no - they do not offer other services than hj. for some time fusion was popular in the [url]www.manilatonight.com[/url] -forum, but got banned, since the boss of fusion had a temper and got upset when forum-members flamed him. i never heard of anyone getting other es than hj's and the possibility to touch the girls.
been there a few years back and the massage skills were excellent. now they have other therapists, but i am sure they are equally well trained.
[quote=lifeingr]this is what i am saying that the bayview hotel is far away from the fusion who is on the bayview tower.
yes maybe the offer other services too but i was quite happy with the hj. some posts in other forums confirm also that hj is the standard option.[/quote]
Thanks a lot for the advices! Much appreciated.
I booked the Dusit.
B (that just discovered the Manila Hotels thread - sorry!)
[quote=marconista]@ x
it is just across from the coastal mall along roxas blvrd. so - perhaps 7 minutes from the airport (on a good day).
and no - they do not offer other services than hj. for some time fusion was popular in the [url]www.manilatonight.com[/url] -forum, but got banned, since the boss of fusion had a temper and got upset when forum-members flamed him. i never heard of anyone getting other es than hj's and the possibility to touch the girls.
been there a few years back and the massage skills were excellent. now they have other therapists, but i am sure they are equally well trained.[/quote]they do some heavy advertising on craigs list and seem to promise the world. but as we know "truth in advertising " doesn't exactly hold.
then again, throw in some pics of some gasl showing some flesh and promising lots, and the punters will always come.
The girls that have the most odiferous pukis are generally those who barfine frequently. Having sex multiple times a day, day after day, many times will lead to a urinary tract infection which makes a woman's vagina smell.
This condition is something that is not generally serious and can be treated with medication and a week off from working in the bar. When traveling to the Phils, I always take a bottle of cranberry extract capsules which work wonders on UTI's in both men and women and will give it to someone who seems to be suffering from this condition.
As a side note, it is not a good idea to have unprotected sex with a woman with a smelly snatch because for men UTI's are more serious infections than for women who often get them because of the anatomical differences between the sexes. In addition, because of those differences, women also have a self limiting ability to heal themselves even without medication while men can have an UTI for years before it naturally runs its course.
[QUOTE=Mahal]I don't know if a smelly pussy is a sign of infection but I suppose it could very well be, so that is a no-no. Of course I was covered during the failed attempt to do the deed but I had started by performing DATY, which is when I noticed the bad odor.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mahal]
I don't know if a smelly pussy is a sign of infection but I suppose it could very well be, so that is a no-no. Of course I was covered during the failed attempt to do the deed but I had started by performing DATY, which is when I noticed the bad odor.
[/QUOTE]
Two of the most common infection you could encounter is kissing disease and UTI.
Here, if you, your friends or the girl have UTI...help them or spread the message so that they can spend less on doctor fees, when the info and diagnosis is available on the web for free.
[url]http://www.drugs.com/ciprofloxacin.html[/url]
[url]http://www.drugs.com/drug-class/second-generation-cephalosporins.html[/url]
Go to mercury drug, ciprofloxacin one tab cots 60 pesos, three is enough to be cool in couple of days and you will be as healthy as before.
No worries.
Kissing Disease
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infectious_mononucleosis[/url]
not to scare anyone.....all STD's are curable except the ones we generally know. take precautions, but one cant help kissing someone, so better to be prepared to be healthy again.
Chill Good Luck in PH :)
[QUOTE=The Rooster1]Try Florence out from the Casino Bar. She also has a friend that is about 4'7" if you like that. Did them both and had a ball. Repeated on Florence and was even better. She is about 6-7 in the looks department, but definitely good in the sack.
The Firehouse usually has more stunners there. A bit pricier though.
Peace out![/QUOTE]
Thanks for the advice. I avoided Firehouse on purpose because my regular used to work there, she was coming the next day and I did not want her to find out I had been to Firehouse. She still has friends there.
Speaking of my regular, I met her at Firehouse 2 years ago, she went back to her province the next day and did not come back to Manila other than to see me. At least that is her story. All I can say is she rides the bus for 24 hours to come meet me at my hotel whenever I am in town, then she rides me for another 48 hours. She is a sex machine, wakes me up with a BJ every morning and every time we go out of the room she wants to come back to bed, I seriously have never met a girl who likes sex so much, she has never asked me anything, gifts or to marry her, neither did she hint that she needs money, I give her some when I see her but not much. She showed me pictures of her house, her family, her friends, she looks like she has a decent life.
She was telling me about her life at Firehouse, the drugged customers, the guy who comes and picks 25 girls for a big party in his swimming pool, not easy. I always hesitate between spending time with her, which will be 100% sex, and hunting in the bars. 50% of the time the bar experience is so so.
Finally the day before I hooked up with my GF I went to Havana Cafe and met XXX I don't remember her name. who looks like Angelina Jolie. Very pretty (she had a friend who was already busy but was just gorgeous). Angelina said she works 1 day per week only and demands 5,000 pesos. I said 5K? She said I am worth it... I fell for it and she was not worth it. To my defense it was 2AM and I figured it was going to cost me more to go to P Burgos and pay the barfine and the girl.
Took her back to the Mandarin Oriental (very old hotel and not in good condition, will not stay there again) and turns out she had huge stretch marks. She was nice, still not worth 5K. I know that is spoiling the market, Myers rum will do that to you.
Does anyone have experience with the Wensha Spa? Big Chinese style building with yellow neon lights near the Sofitel. It has been there for a while, just never remembered to try it and was wondering if anyone else has. Thanks.
Are you a real doctor?
Years ago I had a condom break in BKK. Back in Tokyo I was dating a college gal, and after my return she acquired one hell of a stinky puss, along with milky ooze that did not look like anyting that ever dripped out of her hole before.
Her doc said it was an infection and she blamed me. I suspect she was correct. Nevertheless, when I went to the doctor, I had no infection. My own reading indicated that guys can self-heal very quickly.
X
[QUOTE=Docwiltro]The girls that have the most odiferous pukis are generally those who barfine frequently. Having sex multiple times a day, day after day, many times will lead to a urinary tract infection which makes a woman's vagina smell.
This condition is something that is not generally serious and can be treated with medication and a week off from working in the bar. When traveling to the Phils, I always take a bottle of cranberry extract capsules which work wonders on UTI's in both men and women and will give it to someone who seems to be suffering from this condition.
As a side note, it is not a good idea to have unprotected sex with a woman with a smelly snatch because for men UTI's are more serious infections than for women who often get them because of the anatomical differences between the sexes. In addition, because of those differences, women also have a self limiting ability to heal themselves even without medication while men can have an UTI for years before it naturally runs its course.[/QUOTE]
first trip to manila on business and had some evening time for exploring. checked out burgos, but was not enamored with the scene there. tried havana café at greenbelt and decided that was more my style. got there about nine to get a table outside. the girls start rolling in about ten. went there four nights and walked out with two part-timers and one freebee. the freebee was good for two nights. all the girls were trying hard to please. bbbj cim, multiple pops. two of the three stayed for a morning session and breakfast. look around, make a selection, establish eye contact if you are too lazy to walk to her table, and enjoy the night. if you don't see anything you like outside, take a walk to the wc (the girls are lined up waiting to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]) and you'll probably make a friend along the way. in each case, money was never asked for and my donation accepted with a smile. the band is great, the beer is cold, the women friendly and in great supply. i will definitely go back.
Had 6 hours to burn in Manila on the way to Cebu. Got a stay at the Palm Plaza and headed to Amazonia for a few beers. Was only interested in some drinks as I was saving myself for my regular girl. The place has been getting better every time I go there. They had a really good band playing and it was busy. They had lots freelance girls in there with many not talking with anyone yet. Walked in and seen one from the past so had a few with her and her friend. After a few beers and a shot was talked into a threesome and a titty fuck with her friend who had some monster natural tits. She said they were 36E's, haha. SO I had an hour and a half with them and popped twice, so much for saving myself. They were only average looking girls and a bit on the heavier side, but still had fun. 1000 peso's each and they were on their way.
Had a few hours to burn on my way to Cebu. Had a stay at the airport hotel, 2800p for a supposedly superior room. Pretty shabby w 2 tiny hard beds. The guy Jeff who met me at the airport wondered what I wanted to do the and he suggested Pacific Blues. He was a pleasant chap so I said why not. Quick shower and we were off. No bargains to be had there. 1500p entrance fee each, 1000p lady drink got you an hour of her time. Maybe 50 girls there fishbowl style, another 12 or so dancers. Manager informed me that upstairs in the VIP room w the girl only 7k p, to hotel 10k. Somehow I was able to resist. So rather expensive for the 2 entrance fees, beers and a lady drink, 6k. Not recommended this place. In the Cebu Marriott now, 1 nt down, 16 to go.
I was surprised yesterday when I went to do my once a trip walkthru of Amazonia that the band that plays on Tuesday and Wednesday was pretty decent.
Wuhuhu. My first time in Manila was fun!
Arrived from cebu around 10am. Checked-in Diamond Hotel around 12pm. Was very tired and slept until 6pm. Woke up and felt damn horny, so I decided to head to LA Cafe. It was not far from the hotel. About 5 mins walking. I agree that the area seemed to be a seedy one. On the way, I was approached by a man selling me the blue pills. I politely said " no thanks, I can still get it up on my own." WTF? Sex is at peak for me at this age. I am just 30 and look very young until the guard in front of the LA Cafe asked an ID from me. Spent around 20 minutes in LA Cafe until I decided that it was not worth to spend any more time there. All girls were below average.
Walked out of the cafe around 6:45pm towards diamond hotel. Thanks to ISG, I always remembered not to take the cab near the LA cafe. Got into a cab and headed to EDSA. Straight away went to Cotton Club as it was the first that caught my sight from the entrance. Ordered a lite coke for PHP130. Sat there nearly 90 mins watching the girls dancing. All the girls were average. Finally I decided to call a girl to have a drink with me. Lady drink was PHP195. I smoked a cigarette with her, name was Vanessa, and learned that she was 20 with one kid. Her English was really, really bad that kinda turned me off a bit as I was looking for my 1st time GFE. Suddenly I saw a girl on stage constantly making an eye contact with me. She was an 8. I politely say goodbye to the Vanessa and call the girl up with me. Another PHP195 lady drink. Learned that she was 18 and just worked there for 3 weeks! Wowowowo! I chatted with her for like 10 mins and feels that I got a stiffy already. So, I barfined her for PHP1200 and headed back to the hotel right away.
It was raining and I just got into a taxi waiting in front of EDSA. The driver asked me for PHP250 for a short trip to diamond. WTF, I agreed and only paid him PHP150 upon arrival.
The girl was a spinner. Horny as hell and easily got wet. Made me felt that I was 18 again! We had 5 times sex that nite with 30 mins break in between. During the break I learned that I was the 3rd customer and 4th man she had sex with. No wonder she got wet easily! When I said wet, she is really, really wet! We slept around 3am that nite.
Woke up around 9am next day and had another round of 1 hr sex. Showered together and sent her home around 11am as I need to catch a flight at 1pm. I learned that her first customer gave her PHP1500 for ST and the second customer gave her USD200 for a ST. The guy who gave her USD200 was a pilot (captain M*K*). In my head "WTF, why spoil market? ". I gave her PHP2500 for a LT. Considering the money that I gave, I think it was a value fuck! Too bad she didn't do DATY, CBJ, BBBJ or BBF. Note that she never said anything about money. She said "it's all up to you! ". I hope I paid her right.
Two weeks back at base and I am itching to go back to Manila! I will definitely come back! The GFE is something that you cannot get anywhere in the world. Thailand, Europe, Jakarta cannot match the GFE that Manila has to offer.
I am falling in love with Manila Pussy!
Matt.
P/s: PM me should you need any help or info.
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Well I am back in the Land of Pussy (well in IMHO it is but I can seen as biased :)) and this time decided to spend a few days Manila (as I really don’t like the capital the more I go there only because it is dirty, polluted, noisy and expensive by Philippine standards). So I popped into Cebu to renew a few old acquaintances as I did in Manila and for the first time visited to Davao. Not really a pure monger visit where every day I go bars and bar fine girls but a mix mainly focused on chasing DIA etc pussy and girls I knew before and wanted a second (or more bit of their cherry :D)...and wanted a second bite of me also ;)
This FR is the first 2 days and as now am in Cebu and still to visit Davao.
Day 1 Manila
Arrived very late due to a delayed plane and got to the Dusit Hotel well past midnight but my good friend who I call for such eventualities did not let me down and a cute 18 year old spinner was soon in my room and I was enjoying myself and my friend was watching and taking a few photos (she is a nice girl and she knows who she is as she is an ISG member as well). Charisse is IMHO pretty , tight body nice figure, but limited experience so bear this in mind if anyone asks for her contacts, not bubbly but still or a very tired traveller very welcome
Later that morning I met a friend of very good friend ex Manila, swingers (I wrote about them in the Abu Dhabi thread a while back). She is 26 very bisexual, works in a spa in Manila (a professional one but she does see a few of the customers for HJs etc after hours), loves Greek and all forms of naughtiness except CIM. DFK DATY and she does love a good sandwich/DP.
She is another spinner, not the best looker but a great body and great shag ..so nice am seeing her again before I leave the country....and she will bring a cute friend for a FFM session . Our Greek session was so nice (one of the best I have experienced for a while)as she really responds a good hard todger the backside and I had brought a few small toys with me for her backside that she appreciated. She also liked the new batteries I brought with me as well for her vibros that were so nicely but slowly pushed up her backside (and her pussy). Am checking with her when I see her again if she will meet my ‘friends’ (remember she has a full time paying job and likes to have a day off) – she ,may well do I am not sure yet
So within less than 12 hours I had 2 very enjoyable experience with some differences but all in all excellent and an average age of 22...
Sleep and then in the evening what to do? I thought LA Cafe but too far, was still a tad tired (well am an old man) so went to Havana Cafe. Around 11.30pm was packed some very tasty totty but all taken or the ones that came prearranged. Two girls very striking with long legs and minis skirts/shorts and heels and some nice cleavage arrived but they went straight to a table of guys. Another 2 girls looked OK, very nice heels and short skirts obviously looking but...a tad chubbier than I like so as I was getting tired I went back to the Dusit
There I did a quick DIA search and find and bingo....a bar girl on her off day from Bullet (ESDA Complex) called Shella. Came over , spinner, great BBBJ one of the better ones I have ever had – the way she used her tongue and looks at you when doing it is very horny. Very enthusiastic in bed enjoys CIM, DFK, DATY, 69 but no Greek but had some digits up there so maybe next time...and a great person, stayed the night and told me about her life as a bar girl – said she earns 150 pesos a day but management take around 90 of this for make up, clothes etc. Her rent is 1500 pesos a month so a tough life if she gets no customers. So let her sleep over, have a nice big breakfast and paid her rent for the month and she was so happy. One for the future and repeat for me.
I have her contacts if you don’t want to go to her work place and bar fine her
Day 2 Manila
Of course my next girl was already in the hotel (silly me for thinking she would be late..she was early) and saw me come out of the lift with Shella....but I was not holding her hand etc so I told her after a series of enraged SMS messages (why are they so jealous ... a rhetorical question!) that she was just in the lift and asked me where the taxis were to be found (it pays to be a quick thinker at times). Eventually she relented came to Dusit again upstairs and then said she was on her period (which I confirmed) and I not into strawberry shagging however kinky some members may think I am ;) So we had a grope of lovely rack and she went away with the taxi fare. May see her next week when back in Manila but, may not
After that I contacted another favourite of mine who I had met previously via DIA and she is IMHO a stunner, absolutely gorgeous (for me 9 to 9.5). She had a rough time last year and was happy to see me and we just hung out with her cousin for lunch but we then had far more fun in the evening. Great meal in Greenbelt (Italian Novo Uno? – as Toscas had closed as she came back to the hotel after 10pm)- she looked stuning always well dressed great make up and high heels my favourite :). The meal was followed by some serious DATY, fingers and shagging bringing her off first with DATY.
She is so sexy and a great body and I will see her in Manila before I return – she is my evening delight and will be introduced to my friends who I meet in Manila next week. She is not P4P guys sorry...
In between all this my chasing of DIA girls was working – my back up plans and extra back up plans all coming together at the same time so had to politely drop a few girls who were texting...tough choices no time but l keep the numbers as reserves
So a good 2 days limited sleep and some serious shagging. Missed Barba but will catch him in Davao, spoke with another monger in Subic who is with Miss N and all in all despite Manila being what it is, I had a great time
Am back again soon after Cebu and Davao
[QUOTE=Warbucks]$600-900 dollars worth of modern technology. One of my recent pick ups from Makati/Flamingo had one. Said it was a gift from a "friend." Must be some damn friend.[/QUOTE]
Just to add some info this comment I was in the IPod shop in Cebu and these are the prices...expensive wherever you are but a lot for a Pinay (I would never had one but the I dont really care what mobile I have as long as I can SMS and receive/make calls)
3G 8G 32350 pesos
3GS 16G 38850 pesos
3GS 32G 45250 pesos
And I agree with Warbucks, she has a very kind 'friend'
[QUOTE=Mahal]Does anyone have experience with the Wensha Spa? Big Chinese style building with yellow neon lights near the Sofitel. It has been there for a while, just never remembered to try it and was wondering if anyone else has. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Pretty good veggie massage, no extras, not even HJ. It is a full spa with steam room, sauna, jacuzzi. Separate areas for men and women. They even give you some minimal C+ food.
If you want some extra service, try the Boulevard spa, although run down, you can ask for at least a HJ after the THOROUGH body scrub. Executive Core Spa also has HJ, but is inconsistent.
If you want just the massage and skip all the other stuff, then call a service to your room, half the price and certainly more convenient.
All my prayers goes with the victims of the floods and their family.
I was wondering is the heart of manila (airport, makati, malate) fully functionnal now? ie : electricity working at 100%, internet working, restaurants are delivered with supplies, roads open, not too much dirt on the sidewalks or not?
because on TV the dramatic images seems mostly about problems in the favellas of Manila, not within the coastal zone of malate, ermita etc.
To put it in a nutshell is ok to come to manila in the next few weeks to support the economy that will likely needs our pesos.
All trafic at Nina Aquino is normal or is it best to fly to clark?
I flew in yesterday from Davao, and the flight took off and landed on time. The streets of Makati are dry; traffic is moving normally, and there's no indication of any problem here.
GE
I am looking for a real date...not a fuck fest. What are the best websites?
I have only used Filipina Heart in the past.
Thanks, Bob
[QUOTE=Towelboy2010]I am looking for a real date...not a fuck fest. What are the best websites?
I have only used Filipina Heart in the past.
Thanks, Bob[/QUOTE]What's wrong with a fuckfest with a real date? I have used Filipna Heart and thats it. That was when I was new and just wanted to feel the Pinay's out. After hanging around and moving to the PI, its just to damm easy to pick up "real dates" wherever you go. Even if you have a short vacation, it takes a matter of hours to pick up girls at the malls and coffee shops. I think if you want to set some things up in advance, put some time in before leaving on Filipina Heart. It's a great site and I had a couple really good dates and possible long-term relationships If I wanted. Just put the time in to weed them out and be honest with them.
I know a lot of guys use DIA and have great success. It's up to you. Enjoy and read the reports on using the dating sites. Some really good info.
Peace out!
You can find sincere young ladies on both Filipina heart and Cherry Blossoms. CB has been in the business more than 25-30 years I believe.
Of course tons and tons of scammers. Some just are so clueless, asking for $ on the first chat. One just tonight send me "her" pics, but her email account has a mans name! har har.
Lots of the guys here talk about picking up girls as you move around. One thing dating sites will help with is meeting more professional girls, who may be harder to run into if you are cruising malls.
Just keep in mind: more professional, more respectable, more serious about a relationship = less inclined to put out anytime soon. Which may well be ok with you.
Arrived in middle of last week and my objectives were to see Ms S (a repeat but oh so sweet) and Ms K. Who will don nurses gear, schollgirls gear. And is devoted to making me happy.
Arrived and got on the phone. Ms S said had migraine, could we postpone to Saturday, and Ms K said had pneumonia and had been off work for past 3 days. Hmm not a good start but I'm resourceful.
Contacted Ms B (who is a 20 year old repeat) and she was free to meet me at 9pm. Went to Burgos and met Ms J, a 30 year old student, dropped her off with a kiss, then met Ms B, back to my place and lots of vodka influenced fun till the am. Kicked her out, went got dvds and called up Ms C. A former bargirl, who is trying to go straight. 2 kids by 2 fathers but looks good, and I'm sure was stunning a few years before. We got on really well and she was very funny.
Took her to lunch, then had to leave as I had arranged to meet Ms D (also referred to in my " I don't like post " in Filipinas section) We met and she hoped that I would spend next 8 hours with her. No way baby.
Went to motel and after 3 hours I'm done with her. Made my excuses and left her at mall with teary eyes ("why you just want have sex me and then go ")
Then rejoined Ms C near Cinema Square for dinner. Interestingly, inside CinemAa square are some kareoke bars. Lined up outside them were some ladies who were clearly for hire. Didn't assess quality level.
Had nice dinner with Ms C and she was quite clear that nothing else was on menu. Headed to Burgos which was fun.
Next day, up and did some work, but checked that the evening plan was still on. Was free at lunch and Ms J said she would met me, but was late. I met her when I only had 30 minutes to go to my place and get changed for work.
So, took her to my place, we made out for 3 minutes, got undressed in front of her, she gave me a two minute BJ, but hen I had to rush out the door. Funny encounter. Did my work then met Ms A. Now this was a high risk strategy as she was 39. Had two kids but she seemed keen. Met her in mall and she looked fine. Drove to Sogo, and within 5 minutes I'm driving with my fingers freely roaming her nether parts. I could tell there was some stomach sag, but she was fun and friendly and when she starts to blow me on Roxas boulevard I was smiling.
Got to motel, and yes, she had stomach sag, and tits were gone, but she was very skillful at blowing. Was fine time, gave her P400 for her taxi and left her near Sogo just as it started to rain. Probably will never see her again.
Went to Burgos and contact Ms B from before. She met me at 12 midnight and we went my home for lots of joy which resulted in a pleasant blow in the am, and she gave what she said was her first ass rim. She was down there a long time. Very nice. Dropped her at nearby mall.
Now the plan was that I would finally meet Ms S who had postponed. Well that would have happened except for the rain. Man it rained and rained and rained. So Ms S said she couldn't wade thro waist deep rainwater to get to a trike then hope to find a jeep.
Anyways I sat and watched the rain. Went thru all my contacts and all were stuck in their homes due to rain. Hmm feeling horny by 6pm, I picked upoMs B (she was stuck in the nearby mall and had been stuck there all day) and had onequick round with her.
Then went to Burgos but most bars closed.
Got sms from a bargirl I know who stays in Makati. She says all bars closed, lets go barhopping. Which we did. Was fun. Decided to let her stay with me, tho I couldn't perform. Too much drink, too little sleep and too much sex previously.
Now, Ms S had said if waters had receded we could meet Sunday am. So had funny scenario, when Ms Bargirl wants to boom boom on Sunday am and I'm saying no. Hoping to conserve my energy LOL. Dropped Ms Bargirl off (P 200 for taxi. Then found out Ms S stuck in house and could only go out by use of a boat.
So. Went to a massage place near Cinema square for a mid morning HJ. Could see lots of damage from rain. Then tried to go to airport for my flight. Hmm airport was a major zoo scene, as all previous days passengers and all that days passengers there at same time. I decided to go tghe nect day instead, went home, and tried to find Ms S. She said her phone had no batt, no power in her house, no food etcetc. And then never heard from her again.
Was feelin quite frisky so went to massage place again. Had very nice provider and all fine again. Dinner and then headed to Burgos. All bars open and got a sweet blow from a Wowowow lady.
Home at 3 am a lot drunker than I intended.
Next day went to mall. Walked around with a smile on my face and found lady to have lunch with. Just a random lady with whom I struck up a conversation. Was thinkng about luring her to my car when I got sms from Ms M. I had told her previous day thaat I was free but she had said she was busy. She managed to persuade boss to let her have two hours off work. Turned up at my mall and off we went.
She had previously been slim with great jugs. Now she had gained weight but still had great jugs. Within 30 minutes of meeting we were pumping pleasure. Didn't last long as I had to get to airport.
Dropped her off, spent 30 minutes searching my apartment for tell tale female hair and found it everywhere. Cleaned up and left.
And of course today, have a few messages on various sites that leads me to believe there are much more freebies ready for my next visit.
Damn tiring weekend but always maximum fun!
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I flew in yesterday from Davao, and the flight took off and landed on time. The streets of Makati are dry; traffic is moving normally, and there's no indication of any problem here.
GE[/QUOTE]Wow. I been visiting around different websites to see the average person's viewpoint on the ground of the situation that is happening in the Manila area. However, I couldn't find anything except yours (so far). It's a relief to hear that things don't seem as worse as they do on TV.
I fly in tomorrow night and I was really concerned.
Am now back in Manila, same hotel as before just for 2 days and then back home :(
Had a few things to do and girls to see on arrival – Miss Stunner, Miss Bog Racks plus some ladies from a good friend of mine...she always has spinners tongue and sexy and while some are inexperienced (in that no white guy before me) they are sweet and lovely, and I enjoy that.
Miss Stunner was on her period so out meeting was postponed until the next day. Miss Big Rack was working so again see her the next day 9if I can be bothered). Called my friend and she never lets me down. Also hooked up with a friend who was visiting and wanted some fun. Quick call to my contact and she came up with some delightful 18 tear old students, all spinners, slim and pretty with varying degrees of experience or inexperience. Mine was less experienced but it did not dampen the enjoyment. My mate saw one I shagged last week and he was very happy, as she was enthusiastic and great BBBJ, adores DATY (really opens up once you start) so all in all we both had fun.
Was a long day with some work so around 11pm we went to Havana Cafe purely for drink and snacks as we both had early stats the next day, But....he spotted3 cuties all with FM heels, nails painted and looking very sexy (well dressed also), so after a few minutes we sat at their table. As usual, they were students looking to supplement their allowances. All 22 years old, slim, my friend took the Cebuana (she reminded of Lovely in Dubai) and had the other 2 girls :)...J and S we shall call them. S was in white FM heels and short skirt, while J was moving her hips to the music (later she did that on my face :D)
Back to the hotel and the doorman who saw me leave 90- minutes before smiled as I got out of the taxi with 3 cuties (and my friend).
So in the room we shower together lots of touching and stroking - had to ask housekeeping for 3 extra towels. Onto the main event and they loved DATY so had them both in turn, while the other played with the todger. They came equipped with some flavoured lube so although they said they did not do this regularly they knew the ropes....so lots of face sitting (them on me) grinding into my face, especially J who came fast and furious many times and was happy. S was slightly more shy but once my tongue did it work then all was fine and we had a great couple of hours of shagging licking and coming.
My friend also had a good time with the Cebuana so we were both happy if not knackered :)
They go to Havana 2-3 times a week they said so watch out for them, slim sexy, well dressed, FM heels (mind you that can describe quite a few girls there!)
So now last day approaches and I have 3 girls to see and maybe S again after r school....tough life and one I will miss even though am completely shagged out . Or should I see J...my friend will see Cebuana or Shella tonight (see previous FR) the girl from Bullet as its her off day. So many choices so little time ...I do love the Philippines :D
Since I will be in town for the next few days I just wanted some advice on EDSA Entertainment Complex and LA Cafe.
Has anyone been to either of these places since the storm? Were they flooded and damaged or are things back to normal? Are most of the girls coming into work at EDSA?
I imagine if it is not back to normal, once it is, that LA Cafe will be very busy with ladies who are in need of pesos.
[QUOTE=Zackary Kr]Wow. I been visiting around different websites to see the average person's viewpoint on the ground of the situation that is happening in the Manila area. However, I couldn't find anything except yours (so far). It's a relief to hear that things don't seem as worse as they do on TV.
I fly in tomorrow night and I was really concerned.[/QUOTE]
I think most of the time the news is going to make these disasters bigger than they are. Don't get me wrong, it got pretty bad but you are going to see the worst parts on tv and news. Malate was fine afterwards but businesses had some damage due to flooding. I was able to travel from Malate to Makati easily. Only one small street was pretty flooded still on Sunday. Havana was pretty busy on Sunday night. Friday night there were some lookers there.
I am adding to my post here. Again, it got bad here. Locals here living in low lying areas really got screwed. I'm not trying to downplay the events here, but from my view in Malate and Makati things were getting back to normal. I flew out to Cebu on Monday. No problems.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Am now back in Manila, same hotel as before just for 2 days and then back home :( [/QUOTE]
Nice to meet up with you...
It's always fun when three ISG members from different countries are sitting in Dusit Club room with multiple girls each :D
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Nice to meet up with you...
It's always fun when three ISG members from different countries are sitting in Dusit Club room with multiple girls each :D[/QUOTE]
:D
And all exhausted from nocturnal and day time activities......good to meet up next perhaps we should swap girls :D
[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]Since I will be in town for the next few days I just wanted some advice on EDSA Entertainment Complex and LA Cafe.
Has anyone been to either of these places since the storm? Were they flooded and damaged or are things back to normal? Are most of the girls coming into work at EDSA?
I imagine if it is not back to normal, once it is, that LA Cafe will be very busy with ladies who are in need of pesos.[/QUOTE]I was in both places last night (and a few others..) they are all operating normally and were a bit quite. So don't worry your pesos will still get you what you want :)
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Nice to meet up with you...
It's always fun when three ISG members from different countries are sitting in Dusit Club room with multiple girls each :D[/QUOTE]I can only imagine the scene.
It would have been great to have been observing the mongers at multiple play.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]:D
And all exhausted from nocturnal and day time activities......good to meet up next perhaps we should swap girls :D[/QUOTE]Hell two of mine would pay me to not screw them again :D They said I sex too much :D
If you gave me yours they might hate you for the rest of your life :D I'll post when I get settled.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]I can only imagine the scene.
It would have been great to have been observing the mongers at multiple play.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the club room attendant upgraded two of us to suites that I know about I'm not sure about the third. For me she told me she knew I needed the extra bathroom and living room and winked at me (since I had a girl already waiting in the club room for my arrival) :D Now that is service, right after a typhoon you can still get a girl to meet you at the hotel club room.
And when I would walk in with various girls she just smiles and giggles at me. This is the lady that I chat with on line and am trying to hook up with her outside of work. So far only one lunch with her but am going for the all night affair.... Nothing ventured nothing gained :D
That's the nice thing about the Club Room at Dusit, you could walk an army of girls through there and they staff has seen it all and they could care less and if anything they treat you better then they do normal guests it seems.
Here's the 18 year old who was waiting for me at Dusit and kept me safe after the storms....
This was one of the girls before the three girls that GE and Wicked Roger saw me with in the club room at Dusit...
Called my friend and she never lets me down. Also hooked up with a friend who was visiting and wanted some fun. Quick call to my contact and she came up with some delightful 18 tear old students, all spinners, slim and pretty with varying degrees of experience or inexperience. Mine was less experienced but it did not dampen the enjoyment. My mate saw one I shagged last week and he was very happy, as she was enthusiastic and great BBBJ, adores DATY (really opens up once you start) so all in all we both had fun.
Thank you so much WR, hope you enjoy my company and also a very pretty and sexy girl friend of mine. Hope to see you again.
Keep in touch.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Hell two of mine would pay me to not screw them again :D They said I sex too much :D
If you gave me yours they might hate you for the rest of your life :D I'll post when I get settled...[/QUOTE]
LOL
They would thank me for the break I gave them Tansak :D :D But would be a fun idea...maybe we should get adjoining suites/rooms make things easier.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Am now back in Manila, same hotel as before just for 2 days and then back home :(
Called my friend and she never lets me down. Also hooked up with a friend who was visiting and wanted some fun. Quick call to my contact and she came up with some delightful 18 tear old students, all spinners, slim and pretty with varying degrees of experience or inexperience. Mine was less experienced but it did not dampen the enjoyment. My mate saw one I shagged last week and he was very happy, as she was enthusiastic and great BBBJ, adores DATY (really opens up once you start) so all in all we both had fun.[/quote]Thank you so much my dear friend hope you enjoyed my girl friends.
[QUOTE=Azeb 411]I will be visiting Boracay Next month and i was wondering if it is better to take a girl from Manila with me and pay hehr for the week or risk being all along there for the 10 days I will be there? What is the scene like in Boracay.
We have a 20 hour cruise from Manilla and I would like to "rock the boat a bit" hehehe.[/QUOTE]If the girl is of your taste and can bend over anytime you want without hassle, then be it. It might cost you cheaper to take her by the week (if she is not a freebie), than getting FL in Bora. Rates varied from P1k to P3k for an ST with FLs on the island of paradise. But yet if the girl you bring along willing for a threesum, then the variety gals in Bora can share the rocking boat with ya.
BTW, the rates mentioned is still cheap for 2 cute girls lapping your cum. Anyway, your miles may varied..hehehhh.
Was in LA recently and wondering about the different approaches to negotiating and paying the girls that have been discussed here. Some guys have just offered the girls, some have asked how much they want others don't discuss it at all, just give them some cash as they leave. Given that I have a few consecutive nights, I thought, in the interest of science of course, I would run a study to figure out the best approach. This is going to be long, so I will break it up.
The mission is to get a really cute girl out of LA back to your room long time with the most GF experience for the least cost. Some of the variables might be time of day, which area you pick them from, younger vs older, new vs. Old hand, how much time you spend with them and what you spend on them before.
Generally I arrived at 10p-12am
First night I walked around all four main areas: . My experience in the past has always been that the girls are different in different areas of the Café:
1. Downstairs front (including pool tables) – this is the crush when you first walk in, and extends back to the left to the two pool tables. Here I tend to find less sophisticated girls, some younger, some older, but ones who don't have money to go upstairs and who don't want to play games. They just want you to take them home. Any girls playing pool here are showing off to get a guy. Girls here are very aggressive. They will approach you, grab onto you and can be hard to pry loose.
2. Downstairs back – mostly younger girls, many are primarily interested in playing pool. If they show off at pool, it is because they want to play pool. The girls along the front wall are hunting in packs. They are more passive in that they wait for you to approach them. Interestingly some of the packs seem to want to go only in pairs. They are young but business like. Maybe they are afraid to be alone with you or shy, and like to have a chaperone. My sense is that they will fuck you in a businesslike manner and then go. The men back there are mostly Asian (Korean and Japanese) and perhaps that is what these girls are really looking for. Nevertheless, there are some really beautiful girls here. They don't always speak English here.
3. Upstairs to the left (by band) – mostly more sophisticated (speak English, dress well, have been around). They have to pay a cover to come upstairs, so they have money in the game and probably the experience to know what to do.
4. Upstairs right (by the big bar) – as you enter there are lots of young girls hanging around. They might catch your eye, but quickly look away. My sense is they are approachable but passive. At the tables there are mostly Asian men with attractive girls. Back by the pool tables are more of the same. The girls seem less interested and are probably focused on Asian guys.
The girls do move around a bit during the night, but from night to night gravitate to stay in the same areas. Occasionally you will seem them come from other areas to the downstairs front and stay there for a bit trying to more aggressively hook a new entrant. But then after a bit of time, they go back to their preferred room.
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So back to our survey.
Girl 1) On the first night I hung around a long time. I chatted with the girls by the downstairs bar. I watch the girls playing pool in the back (Hana is my favorite, but I think she does not speak English). I spent some time upstairs watching the band. In the end, it was very late and I was having trouble making up my mind.
Finally I was walking downstairs and a girl by the men's room grabbed on to me. She was tiny but had thick beautiful hair, pretty face and was fun. After talking for about three minutes, it was about 3:30am, she said "are you going to take me home? " It was late, and even though we had spoke only for a minute I said yes, took her hand and headed for the door. No business talk.
We cuddled in the cab. I think she said she was 22. She was sweet. In the room, she quickly undressed and showered, then I did. She had a small, tight body, little breasts, shaved pussy. We kissed and played. She did not get very wet, so rather than fight it I used a sachet of lube I keep for such occasions. We played and fucked a long time, but I am not sure she came. In the morning (I hate it if girls want to leave early or get up and dress without a goodbye fuck) I woke early and she was great, but again don't think she came. We showered and dressed. I put P1, 500 + P100 in her pocket. She never checked, but kissed me, asked for my number and left. It was mostly a GFE, she was totally available, cuddly and in no hurry to leave.
Post script. I did see her on succeeding nights and she wanted to go with me, but I owed it to you guys to move on to the next girl.
Girl 2) Night two was pretty much the same. First I chatted with two girls from Davao, one tall and one tiny. They say they were cousins. I would have gladly taken either but they wanted to go as a pair. I am not against two, but in the Philippines it is rarely such a good experience. Once hides in the bathroom or one is keen and the other really not into it. I have done the group think in London and in Thailand, it was great. But with Filipinas, either in the Philippines or out, it has rarely been so good. Plus the place I stay in I stay often. I did not want them to see me bringing home groups of working girls. One is ok.
So next I chatted up two older women at the main bar. They said they were about 30. They were very aggressive, constantly grabbing my crotch. Clearly they had done this many times. Too slutty for me tonight, plus they again were a pair.
Next I was in the downstairs back when I noticed this beautiful girl playing pool. She was tall for a Filipina, maybe 5'6" or more. Rail thin. Thick beautiful hair. Her face was either beautiful enough for the cover of glamor or funny, and still not sure. Anyway eventually she asks if I like her friends. She says they are tired and all want to go home with me.3 to 5 depending on how you count. Now she is beautiful, and so are her friends, but I was not up for a slumber party, especially as I expect she was all business and I might not even get laid.
I was about to head back upstairs when this beautiful thing appears in front of me. She looks to be 16, is dressed in an old gray t-shirt and jeans. About 5". Am in love. She is bold enough to approach me, but still shy. She is from a nearby town, she goes to school each day. Her family things she works sometimes in a call center, which is how she stays out. I asked to see her id, which looks ok, she is 20.
When we chat a bit in the car, cuddle, but she is clearly nervous. Back at the room, she asks to shower alone. She comes out and is beautiful. Angelic face. Tits of a teen, puffy, inverted nipples, perfect. Her pussy looks like it has never been trimmed. She is not so shy now. She gets into be next to me, but stiffens. She says "what will you pay me". I think and say what do you want. She says, not P500, ok? Some guys think that is enough. Will you give me P2, 000? No, how about P1, 500. Ok. She is a great fuck. Sweet, affectionate, cuddly. I love playing with her body. She is not aggressive and does never takes the lead, but she goes where I put her and cums easily. In the morning I wake up and she is snuggled against me. Wow, her body is even more amazing in the daylight. More teen than woman. We fuck again before she has to go to school. I give her P1, 500 plus P300 for taxi (she lives far).
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Girl 3) This night I was late. I did my walk though down stairs but then went upstairs to listen to music. I stood near the band enjoying the music. After a few minutes a girl came over and said Hi, remember me? Karen was this cute thing I had seen on earlier nights, joked a bit with but then moved on as I thought she was with a group of guys. She asks why I left last time and I explain, but she says I misunderstood. She says lets go play pool. It is fun, she jokes and teases and is very cute. But at some point I catch her smiling at another guy. After a few moments he comes over to challenge on the table, but I have paid for a half hour, so send him away. But I don't want to play her game, so after another game I tell her I have had enough. That I will go for a walk.
After a bit I am again listening to the music and I notice a very pretty girl smiling from the dance floor. She is more mestiza than I am use to. She as long think straight hair, to her butt. But it is brown/red rather than black. Large breasts, white skin and more European looking. She grabs my hand and we dance for a while. Then go back to her friends. She is, like Karen previously, drinking with a group. The other girls all look like pros. I ask her if she is with one of the guys and she says no, she is with me. We chat a bit. She is a domestic, living near my hotel. She asks about me. She asks if I am married and I tell her yes. She frowns and says she cannot go with a married man. So I say "well let's just dance and enjoy, no boom boom then". She looks away and is clearly bothered – not sure whether it was my status or the likely loss of customer. After about 5 uncomfortable minutes of silence – I was not going to walk away – we start talking again. Soon she says that this is the first time she has come with her friends, but they told her everything. She asks how much I will pay her. It is usally a bad sign, but I really sensed she was new to this and just doing what her friends told her to do. I ask how much does she want. Her friends have told her never to go for less than P3, 000. I tell her that is too expensive, perhaps P2, 000. She says her friends say more, I say no, P2, 000 is enough. But she does not leave, and we keep talking. After I while I suggest we go. (We pass Karen and the other guy leaving at the same time).
In the car she is a total GFE. We joke and cuddle. At my room she kisses me and I undress her. WOW! In the light she is still pretty, but her body is picture-perfect. That perfect skin and those large European breasts. Again, not shaved and the same color as her head. We had a really supper fuck. I don't know how many times she came, but it was easy and often, which makes it all the more fun. She moved where I put her, but also moved me where she wanted me. At one point she rode me cow girl and was such a sight to behold: beautiful long hair, beautiful face, those tits! When they are moving it is like art. We cuddled in the morning and banged again, when we finished I really did not want her to put her clothes on. She asked for my number, saying she did not have a phone, but wanted to see me again. I gave her P2, 500 because I was really happy with her. She asked how much it was and when I told her, she jumped up and down and hugged my neck.
Postscript, I have not heard from her.
PSS What is most interesting about Karen is that she really is a pro, but appears so gf like. I have since seen her a few times. She is always checking on me but does not approach.
Girl 4) The next night I was a gain very late, maybe midnight. Was tired but wanted company. After walking around down stairs I was accosted by this odd looking woman. She looked late 20s, was wearing a t-shirt and very torn jeans. No make up. Hair tied up, but sloppy. She looked kinda like she was about to clean her apartment. But she was attractive and had a great smile. I was tired and she was one of those girls upfront that quickly get to the point, so I said let's go. In the cab she is cuddly and totally at ease. She is in fact 35 years old, has 3 kids and does this from time to time to make a bit of money. On the one hand she has a great smile, on the other, I can only guess what her tummy is like.
Well she is quite ok. Her breasts are not those of a teen and her tummy is I guess the best that could be expected after 3 kids. She is definitely not "pro". On the plus side she is not shy, aggressive in bed, so horny and wet. We fucked a long time and I am guessing she enjoyed herself. She was also great in the morning. I gave her P1, 500 + P100. She seemed very happy.
Girl 5) The next night I hung around a long time. Did not see anyone that interested me, or perhaps was getting tired of it – if that is possible. It became very late and was watching pool downstairs, when I noticed this one small girl. She was short, less than five feet, short bobbed but think black hair, round face but Chinese eyes. What I noticed was that she had Chinese characters tattooed on her thigh, running up under her skirt. Earlier in the day I had been chatting on Yahoo with a girl who was looking for ideas for her first tattoo. I had suggested Chinese characters for "I am woman, hear me roar". Don't know why. So I wonder over to this girl and asked what the tattoo meant. I think she said "I love you". She said she was Malaysian, and I can't remember why she said she was in the Philippines. She is 20 and a student. Eventually we left.
She told me this was her second night, the first she had not been lucky. She needed money for school. Naked she was beautiful. White skink, small puffy breasts, black sparse fur, and a few tattoos. She told me that she had only ever had sex with her boyfriend before, and him only once. Humm. When we showered she commented how "big" I was. Now at 6" I am not big, even in the Filipino context I am probably just average. We played and cuddled, it felt like she had not done this a lot. I played with her, trying to get her wet. When I fingered her I thought I felt a barrier, but am not a fan of virgins so what do I know? When it came time to enter her, she stiffened. She was certainly tight. She did not stop me but looked like she was bracing herself. I tried to be gentle, go slow, but after a while I could see she was crying so pulled out. She said I she really had only done this once, and that was not very good. She wanted me to continue, to be happy. I should have been gentlemanly and just stopped, but she was too sexy and I was sooo malibog! So I put my dick back in just a bit, just enough to rub and cum quickly.
In the morning we cuddled again. She kept saying she had to go to school, to see her principal. But she did not get out of bed. She eventually asked if I wanted to fuck her again before she left, which of course I did. It was only slightly better than before. So she seems game. Her mind is willing, but body, and what a great one, has problems. I don't think she ever came.
Afterwards she began again with the bit about having to go see the principal. She was late, but she had to go. And she had to pay her tuition. Ah. Now I am getting it. She asks if I will give her extra money now to pay her tuition. She implies that we are now gf/bf. I am her second boyfriend and first foreigner. After thinking about it: she is beautiful, it did feel like a true experience (what kind, the gentle reader may be thinking) it is not a lot of money.. So I gave her P4, 000, with the understanding that I was paying her in advance for the next few days. She was so happy and off she went.
After she left I was asking myself, had I been hustled? Even if she came back, did I want her? She was beautiful, the idea of teaching this inexperienced teen turned me on, but she was a terrible fuck. So half of me was kicking myself for being such a sucker, half wanted to touch her skin again and half did not want her to show up so I could get properly fucked later.
To make a long story short, she did not show up. For the next few days she would send me text messages to her "love". She could not wait to see me, she misses me, she needs me. I would respond with similarly effusive messages, and asking where she was and was she coming. But she never showed up. Now I was not waiting around for her. I met a couple of excellent massage ladies on Burgos and spent another night with a "friend". I was getting regularly and properly fucked. Still I was irritated at being had.
Post script: A few days later I was back at LA and she was there. I caught her spying at me from across the room. I just smile and continued chatting with my next "date". I think the next two or three times I was in LA she came. Each night I stayed till the wee hours, and not once did I see her go with a guy. I did not even see her talk to a guy. So how much is true, how much BS. I think I felt her hymen. She has tattoos! She wanted and let me fuck her, but she cried and really was passive like someone who had no experience.
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So back to our survey. What is the best negotiating approach and how much should you pay?
It seems in general if I discussed price before hand I ended up paying more. If I said nothing, and she did not bring it up, the price was p1, 500+taxi. If she brought it up, then I was more flexible. If she tried to negotiate in the bar I was also more flexible.
In the end it seems like P1500 is the right price for basic LT with a basic girl. The best approach seems to be not to discuss price, and if she brings it up say P1, 500 and stick with it. If she is special and you have a great time P2, 000-3, 000. But under no circumstances should anyone pay more or EVER, EVER PAY FOR SCHOOL!
I hope you all appreciate the time, effort and cost I have expended for the greater good. Happy hunting!
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[QUOTE=Brown Rail]So back to our survey. What is the best negotiating approach and how much should you pay?
It seems in general if I discussed price before hand I ended up paying more. If I said nothing, and she did not bring it up, the price was p1, 500+taxi. If she brought it up, then I was more flexible. If she tried to negotiate in the bar I was also more flexible.
In the end it seems like P1500 is the right price for basic LT with a basic girl. The best approach seems to be not to discuss price, and if she brings it up say P1, 500 and stick with it. If she is special and you have a great time P2, 000-3, 000. But under no circumstances should anyone pay more or EVER, EVER PAY FOR SCHOOL!
I hope you all appreciate the time, effort and cost I have expended for the greater good. Happy hunting!
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Great report, I think 1500 in LA cafe is ok. There are gold diggers everywhere on planet earth, so general precaution is advised...BUT, I don't think one will find girls anywhere, who would just go without asking money or just take whatever is offered.
When we start getting girls from DIA, Filipina heart and bars also, it averages out in the end in our favor to a very high degree. If one stays here for six to one year and have 100 girls or more, we will begin to see the whole picture crystal clear ....
100 girls * 1500 =150,000, yet if one dates normal girls and manage to hook up with say 30 girls (which anyone with a breath can do here), but say we pay for their taxi or some food etc, which cant be avoided in most cases.. 300 to 400 pesos.
30*400 = 12000
now, 70*1500=105000
105000+12000 = 117,000 for 100 girls which comes to 1170 for each girls in six months to one year time, of course, PH dating is parabolic, the more you stay here, the more regular girls you would date...so 1170 would be like around 700 to 800 pesos for each girl at the end of the year.
Ultimately, in six months to one year time, a guy can sleep with around 100 girls for 700 to 800 pesos.
Moral of the analysis is to sleep with as many girls as possible :D, one won't be able to avoid the gold diggers, so to overcome that inherent negative equation in mongering, its better to date as many girls as possible during your stay here and it wouldn't be late when the tide of money to girls ratio turns in your favor.
From my personal experience, 90% of the Filipino girls are really cool.
[QUOTE=Brown Rail]So back to our survey. What is the best negotiating approach and how much should you pay?
It seems in general if I discussed price before hand I ended up paying more. If I said nothing, and she did not bring it up, the price was p1, 500+taxi. If she brought it up, then I was more flexible. If she tried to negotiate in the bar I was also more flexible.
In the end it seems like P1500 is the right price for basic LT with a basic girl. The best approach seems to be not to discuss price, and if she brings it up say P1, 500 and stick with it. If she is special and you have a great time P2, 000-3, 000. But under no circumstances should anyone pay more or EVER, EVER PAY FOR SCHOOL!
I hope you all appreciate the time, effort and cost I have expended for the greater good. Happy hunting!
End[/QUOTE]Great report BR! Very informative and helpful! Thanks for the research.
My strategy tends to be not to discuss price in advance. Then, in the morning while the gal is taking a shower, I'll put P1500-2500 (depending on her service) in her bag, in her jeans pocket, or tucked under her cell phone, etc., making sure that the money is at least partially visible. That way she knows she has been paid, but unless she is a totally hardened pro, she will be too shy to actually grab the bills and count them in my presence.
In the event that the gal brings up the topic of money in advance, either before leaving LA Cafe, in the taxi or when we get into the room, I usually say something like, 'It depends on your energy and attitude. I would not pay you less than P1500, but it could be more than that if we have a really nice time together.' Though I don't have any scientific evidence to prove it, my feeling is that this tactic tends to be a pretty effective GFE motivator.
I am thinking about spending a weekend in Manila. I want to mostly find freebies by using DIA. I have heard of people planning trips around DIA dates in Cebu, but does it work as well in Manila?
Also, since I'm in my 20s and decent looking, I think I might be able to find freebies if I go out to nightclubs. There aren't many previous posts on this subject though. Does anyone know what nightclubs might be good for meeting freebies?
I'm also trying to figure out where's a good place to stay if I want to meet people on DIA and bring them back to my room. The Sogo by the Harrison Mall seems like a good place. Is that about right?
[QUOTE=Dexadrine]I am thinking about spending a weekend in Manila. I want to mostly find freebies by using DIA. I have heard of people planning trips around DIA dates in Cebu, but does it work as well in Manila?
Also, since I'm in my 20s and decent looking, I think I might be able to find freebies if I go out to nightclubs. There aren't many previous posts on this subject though. Does anyone know what nightclubs might be good for meeting freebies?
I'm also trying to figure out where's a good place to stay if I want to meet people on DIA and bring them back to my room. The Sogo by the Harrison Mall seems like a good place. Is that about right?[/QUOTE]Sogo is for 3 hour specials. I wouldn't exactly rate it as a place to stay.
Lots of bars and clubs out there. But don't let your Western thinking get to you. Being young and decent looking isn't worth much in Manila compared to some of us who are lets say older and decent looking and in decent shape.
You will notice that Filipinas (not all) have a marked preference for older guys (read 50 plus, no beer belly, not bald etc) as they know they are more patient, kind, and possibly richer LOL.
Young will only get you the young ones. Being older will get you the younger, the middle and the older. And a Filipina over 30 knows things about sex that a young gal hasnt even thought of in my experience.
Also DIA might or might now work for you. Whilst all gals put the 18-80 age range, I'm not sure how well they would take to a young guy.(the equation they make is young doesn't have money, older does.). Welcome to Manila!
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Sogo is for 3 hour specials. I wouldn't exactly rate it as a place to stay.[/QUOTE]Sogo always promoted themselves as a hotel. Long-time, more than one night etc.
It is now mentioned here and on other sites quite often as a "short-time"hotel, and they have expanded business to include this option. So you can stay there, or you can hire their special short-time rooms for short, 3-hour sessions too.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Sogo always promoted themselves as a hotel. Long-time, more than one night etc.
It is now mentioned here and on other sites quite often as a "short-time"hotel, and they have expanded business to include this option. So you can stay there, or you can hire their special short-time rooms for short, 3-hour sessions too.[/QUOTE]
You ever tried to stay in a hotel with no windows or daylight.
Its not recommended.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]
Lots of bars and clubs out there. But don't let your Western thinking get to you. Being young and decent looking isn't worth much in Manila compared to some of us who are lets say older and decent looking and in decent shape.
You will notice that Filipinas (not all) have a marked preference for older guys (read 50 plus, no beer belly, not bald etc) as they know they are more patient, kind, and possibly richer LOL.
Young will only get you the young ones. Being older will get you the younger, the middle and the older. And a Filipina over 30 knows things about sex that a young gal hasnt even thought of in my experience.
Also DIA might or might now work for you. Whilst all gals put the 18-80 age range, I'm not sure how well they would take to a young guy.(the equation they make is young doesn't have money, older does.). Welcome to Manila![/QUOTE]
Now Freebie me and you have always got along but this is a load of bull. You telling all us here that a young handsome dude will get looked over for an older guy just because of a perceived wallet size? It depends on your outward appearance I would think. If the younger guy looks like shit and the older guy is well dressed thus illustrating money then of course.....
The US Marines have hit Angeles (in-town to help with the flood relief). From what I have read off another forum the regulars are “heading for the hills” because they are being ignored.
Taken From Another Forum:
[QUOTE=Alkie]
After barhopping extensively the last 3 nights along Fields, I can say that Angeles is as busy as I have ever seen it from a foot traffic standpoint.
The number of US Marines, is very surprising. Seemingly, every 100 feet as you walk, you pass a group of them. They are well-represented in the bars as well. They are friendly and open, with several starting conversations with me. Mostly good kids, but full of testosterone, and you will often see them on stage with the girls dancing.
When they walk into a bar, the girls on-stage scream in unison, and the rest of the clientel are momentarily forgotten. it is a bit of a blow the rest of the customers' ego, but I can't really blame the girls for that. When the Marines finish their drinks and move on, it is business as normal again.
If you are intimidated by young handsome men as competition for bargirls, this is not the best time to be in AC. I know of two older guys who are bailing out of Angeles for Subic and Puerto Galera. One of them stated his reason for leaving was the "fucking gwapo US Marines".
There is also a biker convention in town, but they have stayed mostly on the Perimeter.
I want to stress that there are still of girls to go around, and many bars you walk into will still be more-or-less empty at times. Also the Marines are not as present during the daytime, or on the Perimeter. However, Fields the last few nights has had a feel to it not too much different than Walking Street in Pattaya. That is something I have not experienced in my previous 17 visits to Angeles.
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As we all know Filipinas are extremely shallow and who better to be seen with than a handsome dude around their same age or some older guy who is just a wallet and that everyone knows is just a wallet?
We tend to think Filipinos don’t know what’s going on but they do. Now me I couldn’t challenge you outright for while I am not bad looking I am “racially challenged” LOL but I would bet a month’s paycheck that some decent looking Caucasian guy from the US, UK or Spain would clean up in Manila and I am not talking about with those brown provincial types we see posted here a lot.
I always start my nights off at the Green belt and there is no shortage of young Caucasian guys walking around there with stunning educated.... I mean stunning Filipinas nothing like what you see here. I even talked about it in one of my most recent trip reports.
People are attracted to youth its human nature. That’s why we go to the bars and usually a lady between the ages of 18-25 is ordered and then bragged about here.
[QUOTE=Dexadrine]I am thinking about spending a weekend in Manila. I want to mostly find freebies by using DIA. I have heard of people planning trips around DIA dates in Cebu, but does it work as well in Manila?
Also, since I'm in my 20s and decent looking, I think I might be able to find freebies if I go out to nightclubs. There aren't many previous posts on this subject though. Does anyone know what nightclubs might be good for meeting freebies?
I'm also trying to figure out where's a good place to stay if I want to meet people on DIA and bring them back to my room. The Sogo by the Harrison Mall seems like a good place. Is that about right?[/QUOTE]
Not to disappoint you, but just a weekend and trying to go with DIA girls is like Filipino roulette, yaa no words like that which is exactly more likely you could expect, as you will never know what kind of girls you will be with for couple of days. Never mind the 100 of pics and cam hours you spend seeing her, you could expect her to be entirely different than when you saw her online.
Add to that, its your very first trip, man the odd's are highly against you, Philippines is the best place to get laid for free but still we are on planet earth and doing females, it takes right time and right place etc etc to get laid in your very first trip and that too for just couple of days and from hard on DIA girls who have seen the game in Manila.
i'm not discouraging you, only thing is if it does not go the way you think, you may never think of coming back again and at that point would be your big mistake to skip PH.
You could score at night clubs, but it could be freelancer or a semi pro etc., you need to spend some time to see which one is a hooker and which one is for free here. else, you could expect paying for sick aunt and buffalos together on your very first trip.
With that being said, come with an open mind and don't expect to much on your weekend trip, you still have bars to go with if nothing works out.
Good Luck
[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Sogo always promoted themselves as a hotel. Long-time, more than one night etc.
It is now mentioned here and on other sites quite often as a "short-time"hotel, and they have expanded business to include this option. So you can stay there, or you can hire their special short-time rooms for short, 3-hour sessions too.[/QUOTE]
Sogo Malate have some proper hotel rooms that are not too bad. They are on the upper floors and rarely used as ST rooms. I think that they are branded as Executive Rooms.
Eurotel also have basic but livable rooms. They are located in P Gil and are within walking distance of LAC.
But as FF pointed out, all there rooms are without windows and hence no natural light. OK for a night or two but not much more.
[QUOTE=Warbucks]Now Freebie me and you have always got along but this is a load of bull. You telling all us here that a young handsome dude will get looked over for an older guy just because of a perceived wallet size? It depends on your outward appearance I would think. If the younger guy looks like shit and the older guy is well dressed thus illustrating money then of course.[/QUOTE]I don't think its bull at all. I used to be a younger guy in Phils and now I'm an older one. I've seen both sides of the fence.
I've talked to and been with the ladies of various professions, and the general comments seem to be that a decent professional guy like me with all the confidence and assurance that comes from having achieved some successes in life, looking and dressing the part, attracts them as much if not more than a younger guy who is all energy and hormones.
Maybe these comments were tailored to my ears. But having dated 20 year olds to 40 year olds (dated, wined dined screwed and gone back fro multiple repeats) then I think my opinion is as valid as the next mans.
I'm not talking here about shallow dancing girls. But girls who work for the multinationals (can scream in multiple languages LOL) and look good on your arm. Just MPOV.
Go for it. If the freebies don't work out, there are plenty of p4p option.
I don't know much about nightclubs / discos in Manila. There is the Cowboy Grill in Ermita. Disco on Taft...is it called Nirvana? I can't remember. You have Hard Rock Cafe in Makati and the Fort and some other places best described by the Makati regulars.
As for DIA, meet them for lunch. You'll still have the evening if things don't go smoothly. X
[QUOTE=Dexadrine]I am thinking about spending a weekend in Manila. I want to mostly find freebies by using DIA. I have heard of people planning trips around DIA dates in Cebu, but does it work as well in Manila?
Also, since I'm in my 20s and decent looking, I think I might be able to find freebies if I go out to nightclubs. There aren't many previous posts on this subject though. Does anyone know what nightclubs might be good for meeting freebies?
I'm also trying to figure out where's a good place to stay if I want to meet people on DIA and bring them back to my room. The Sogo by the Harrison Mall seems like a good place. Is that about right?[/QUOTE]
Nirvana is on Taft in Pasay. Near Buendia, IIRC. Large disco with live band. Dunno about the action as I was with a local girl and her friends. Cowboy Grill also has live bands. Smaller nightclubs in Malate around Remedios Circle though I don't remember any offhand to recommend. Hard Rock Cafe in Glorietta. Cafe Havana in Greenbelt. I understand Embassy (at the Fort) is still closed, but there's a nightclub next to it that draws upscale locals. I had the sense that one has to have game to get anywhere there.
Thanks for extra info. I'd forgotten about Malate. I think one place is called Bedrock. There is another place closer to the church with a Spanish name which is popular. This whole area is crowded on the weekends. It's mostly a young crowd.
[QUOTE=Finrod]Nirvana is on Taft in Pasay. Near Buendia, IIRC. Large disco with live band. Dunno about the action as I was with a local girl and her friends. Cowboy Grill also has live bands. Smaller nightclubs in Malate around Remedios Circle though I don't remember any offhand to recommend. Hard Rock Cafe in Glorietta. Cafe Havana in Greenbelt. I understand Embassy (at the Fort) is still closed, but there's a nightclub next to it that draws upscale locals. I had the sense that one has to have game to get anywhere there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Finrod] Smaller nightclubs in Malate around Remedios Circle though I don't remember any offhand to recommend. [/QUOTE]
Watch out which clubs/bars you frequent around Remedios. Many are now for big boys only. Walked into one new bar near the circle one night, sat down, ordered a drink and looked round and then wondered why there were only men in the bar and they were all blowing kisses at me? Tell you, I surely beat the Guinness world record for downing a bottle of SMB!
I've tried ***********.com. I was wondering has anyone used or have any feedback on manilaexposed.com?
Thanks,
EJ
Thanks guys for the responses. It's especially nice for a young guy like me to hear what well-respected veterans have to say.
I've been able to reliably pull freebies off the internet and at nightclubs in Taiwan where I work, as well as at home in the US. I've always been curious about P4P action though, just haven't done it much.
I have some DIA contacts now and if they don't pan out, or turn out to be subpar, I guess there's always LA Cafe. I'll post a report if anything interesting happens.
Greetings mongers great and small -
I'm headed for Manila in February and have been RTFFing quite a bit. One thing I haven't seen is any info on the local custom/culture regarding herbal refreshment. I know there is quite a range of reaction across SE Asia anywhere from a slap on the wrist to beheading. Where do the Phils stand? Not that it would change anything on my agenda but knowledge is power, Grasshopper. It seems that with so many American servicemen there for so long it would not be a big deal but I certainly don't know that. Any insight is appreciated...........LDP
[QUOTE=LuvDaPuss]Herbal Medicine..... [/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.webehigh.com/city/detail.php?CITYID=2265[/url]
[url]http://manila.usembassy.gov/wwwhtxt1.html[/url]
They are pretty strict especially to foreigners .....
Got back from the PI about a week ago. Before I left here I saw a post about Nympho Anna having broken up with her b/f. I was fortunate to get her number from Asian Westerner (thanks again). I sent her a text upon landing and with a few hours we were comfortable in my room at the Pan Pacific. All I can say is WOW, she definitely was fun , she is very well endowed for a filipina and her eyes, well just say I've never seen eyes like hers on a filipina either. She stayed probably 12 hours or more, i lost track and I was wore out after.
Here are some more pics of Nympho Anna
[QUOTE=Sprokit69] ... and her eyes, well just say I've never seen eyes like hers on a filipina either.[/QUOTE]
Yeah they are as blue as the ocean, but I guess with you she didn't have to take them out when a load was deposited in her face:D.
Sorry to spoil the illusion and welcome to the 'I've shagged Ana' ISG appreciation society. Its growing fast. We will have to print t-shirts:).
I think it's against the rules, so please don't tell us how you fared with your billy barfines that night. :-)
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Watch out which clubs/bars you frequent around Remedios. Many are now for big boys only. Walked into one new bar near the circle one night, sat down, ordered a drink and looked round and then wondered why there were only men in the bar and they were all blowing kisses at me? Tell you, I surely beat the Guinness world record for downing a bottle of SMB![/QUOTE]
Any good nightlife in and around Las Pinas City?
[QUOTE=Joseph Paul]Any good nightlife in and around Las Pinas City?[/QUOTE]
Yes, lots JP, but its mostly of the local karaoke variety, concentrated on A-Z Road. Girls in these are available for p4p but not for barfining (you must get her CP No and arrange to meet up later).
[QUOTE=LuvDaPuss]Greetings mongers great and small -
I'm headed for Manila in February and have been RTFFing quite a bit. One thing I haven't seen is any info on the local custom/culture regarding herbal refreshment. I know there is quite a range of reaction across SE Asia anywhere from a slap on the wrist to beheading. Where do the Phils stand? Not that it would change anything on my agenda but knowledge is power, Grasshopper. It seems that with so many American servicemen there for so long it would not be a big deal but I certainly don't know that. Any insight is appreciated...........LDP[/QUOTE]Smoke is readily available, but you have to be CAREFULL. Philippine law does not differentiate between drugs, only the quantity. So, the punishment for a small amount of weed is exactly the same as the punishment for a small amount of heroin (5 to 12 years I think). Bribes can vary between a couple of hundred US$, to $20, 000 or so if charges are filed and you need to bribe the prosecutor (rare, but can happen if you get caught at an airport, for example). I used to take my chances by getting it from a cab driver I knew, and then from an expat once I got settled out here. If you are like me and really enjoy a joint with your barfine, then you need to accept the fact that you will be facing some risk when you buy it out here. Before I lived out here, I would smuggle in just enough for my two week vacation. I would vacum seal it and hide it inside my laptop mouse. Also, all the weed out here is CRAP. It will get you stoned, but it is very low grade stuff. A pocket vaporizer is very usefull because it allows you to smoke all the weed you want without any smell. I use an iolite unit. I can smoke in my car or the bathroom of a hotel, and there is absolutely no smell. I'll even sometimes use it right in front of my girl. I tell them it is an asthma inhaler, and they have absolutely no clue.
Why do you guys do this?
Do you have a fetish for a 3rd world joint or like having your asses owned by a 2 bit cop until you pay him off?
[QUOTE=Lustforthrust]Why do you guys do this?
Do you have a fetish for a 3rd world joint or like having your asses owned by a 2 bit cop until you pay him off?[/QUOTE]We do this because there is nothing like getting stoned and then having some great sex. For some of us, it is worth the risk. In fact, I also do ecstasy and cocaine out here. Why? Because here is my typical night out in Angeles:
1) vaporize some killer indica bud in my hotel and do about a third of a high grade E pill (not the local crap, but pure MDMA scored in San Francisco).
2) Hit the bars in AC and have a great time because I am flying!
3) A couple of hours later, I will do a line or two of cocaine to keep me going.
4) After I have found my girl and brought her to my room, I will get stoned again and bang her brains out.
To some, the above routine would seem crazy. Risky, sure, but fun. Absolutely!
[QUOTE=LoveAsian*****s]Smoke is readily available, but you have to be CAREFULL. Philippine law does not differentiate between drugs, only the quantity. So, the punishment for a small amount of weed is exactly the same as the punishment for a small amount of heroin (5 to 12 years I think). Bribes can vary between a couple of hundred US$, to $20, 000 or so if charges are filed and you need to bribe the prosecutor (rare, but can happen if you get caught at an airport, for example). Also, all the weed out here is CRAP. It will get you stoned, but it is very low grade stuff. [/QUOTE]Yes, this is my experience 99 out of 100 times when you buy on the street. The weed (or anything else) will be LOW GRADE CRAP!!! So unless you know somebody, socially or through legitimate business connections, you will be buying garbage and risking a hell of a lot in doing so.
I know this kind of advice falls on deaf ears. Some guys just think they are invincible, but the local police know who is selling to tourists, so you mark yourself every time you start to negotiate with the shills. And any time the police want to raise some money they will go out and bust some idiot tourist. It’s like picking a ripe mango off the tree. The big risk is you get busted by some hardass who has a personal vendetta against gringos. Then you go straight to jail and the big shakedown will begin. To me, the reward - shitty dope is not worth the risk (even if the risk is small in certain areas). If I want to get high, I stay in the USA where I have connections that go back 20 years or I go to Amsterdam where it is legal and potent.
Just my 2 centavos.
[QUOTE=LoveAsian*****s].. not the local crap, but pure MDMA scored in San Francisco ..[/QUOTE]
Assume from this statement that you are importing as well. You play a dangerous game indeed, my friend. Think its still death for drugs traffickers (or at the very least a loo..ong stretch in a Philippine nick) here.
Best steer away from this subject. This is an open forum and you just don't know who is monitoring our chit-chat.
On the bright side, you get to do MJ's Thriller with all those trannies once in a while.
[QUOTE=Brown Rail]So back to our survey. What is the best negotiating approach and how much should you pay?
It seems in general if I discussed price before hand I ended up paying more. If I said nothing, and she did not bring it up, the price was p1, 500+taxi. If she brought it up, then I was more flexible. If she tried to negotiate in the bar I was also more flexible.
In the end it seems like P1500 is the right price for basic LT with a basic girl. The best approach seems to be not to discuss price, and if she brings it up say P1, 500 and stick with it. If she is special and you have a great time P2, 000-3, 000. But under no circumstances should anyone pay more or EVER, EVER PAY FOR SCHOOL!
I hope you all appreciate the time, effort and cost I have expended for the greater good. Happy hunting!
End[/QUOTE]Thanks for this great report!
LA Cafe still thebest place to go
[QUOTE=Ozzy Bkk]Thanks for this great report!
LA Cafe still thebest place to go[/QUOTE]
Second that. You just don't know what you are going to meet in there. There seems to be an increased level of moonlighting FL's in there, some of whom claim to be students (hmmm ..yeah) or even graduates.
Was in there over the weekend and met a 25 year old called Mavin. She claims to be a graduate who until she was laid off recently was employed as an accountant. Speaks good English and appears intelligent, so maybe this is the case. She has no kids and is really tiny with the archetypal spinners body. Short, bobbed hair, pleasant face but no stunner.
Very passionate and open to anything, and I mean anything;).
Interested if any one else have come across her? She claimed that it was her first time in LAC but I tend towards cynicism regarding anything told to me in there, particularly when they are so amenable to instruction and seemingly experienced.
Reply here or PM me.
[QUOTE=LoveAsian*****s]We do this because there is nothing like getting stoned and then having some great sex. For some of us, it is worth the risk. In fact, I also do ecstasy and cocaine out here. Why? Because here is my typical night out in Angeles:
1) vaporize some killer indica bud in my hotel and do about a third of a high grade E pill (not the local crap, but pure MDMA scored in San Francisco).
2) Hit the bars in AC and have a great time because I am flying!
3) A couple of hours later, I will do a line or two of cocaine to keep me going.
4) After I have found my girl and brought her to my room, I will get stoned again and bang her brains out.
To some, the above routine would seem crazy. Risky, sure, but fun. Absolutely![/QUOTE]
3 types of drugs in one plane ride to a third world country? Too risky.
Why nott over pay some local Pinay from San Fran for risk free fun.
Save the airfare, lost time for travel, hotel cost plus the cost of years in prison. You will probably save money by having a huge party at home.
Can we assume that the stunted one has not invested in LA cafe? It seems like his posts have drifted off from somewhat informative to overly promotional.
X
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Second that. You just don't know what you are going to meet in there. There seems to be an increased level of moonlighting FL's in there, some of whom claim to be students (hmmm ..yeah) or even graduates.
Was in there over the weekend and met a 25 year old called Mavin. She claims to be a graduate who until she was laid off recently was employed as an accountant. Speaks good English and appears intelligent, so maybe this is the case. She has no kids and is really tiny with the archetypal spinners body. Short, bobbed hair, pleasant face but no stunner.
Very passionate and open to anything, and I mean anything;).
Interested if any one else have come across her? She claimed that it was her first time in LAC but I tend towards cynicism regarding anything told to me in there, particularly when they are so amenable to instruction and seemingly experienced.
Reply here or PM me.[/QUOTE]
Tuesday evening 03 Nov 2009
I live deep in the boondocks of Centgral Mindanao now, and I think only fools hang out long time in manila. However, the world is full of fools.
LAC wasn't as crowded with females as I had expected. I was assuming that the recent spate of flooding would severely increase the number of females in manila who needed a shot of cash.
Many, many local men seen. Previous years, this was almost exclusively a foreigner's joint.
Immediately when you walk in, one must turn left or right to go further. Going right, I spotted a much older woman. Pimp working inside LA Cafe? Ownership must have changed.
Despite having come to Manila alone, I didn't feel the urge to actually take one of the girls, notwithstanding a few real beauties that were seen entering around 730pm. Just didn't want to bother with the whole alert-security-stance required when dealing with a stranger in one's room. Not to mention that the 1500 or so required, is what I spend to keep a 19-year old vagina standing by to service me, for 3 months at home.
I don't drink, and the music-selection and sound-system is quite mediocre. Left after just a few minutes.
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[QUOTE=Bronxnik]Tuesday evening 03 Nov 2009
LAC wasn't as crowded with females as I had expected. I was assuming that the recent spate of flooding would severely increase the number of females in manila who needed a shot of cash.
Many, many local men seen. Previous years, this was almost exclusively a foreigner's joint.[/QUOTE]I agree that LAC has become a local hangout. Last month I saw girls with locals stroll and try to pick up foreigners:( Someday I think we are going to get a bad report out of this type of action:(
Robb
I have been to EDSA at least 100 times in the last two years and sorry to say I am known in the bars:( Until last Sunday night, I have never been scammed. I went into the Pit Stop after playing poker for 6 hours in the airport casino and I sat down at the bar. I had a massage lady come up and ask if I wanted a massage and I never do partake of massages in bars, but I figured what the hell and told her go ahead. After 15 minutes of so-so massage I gave her a 100P and told her thanks. She kept massaging and I thought you can keep it up, but your tip is done. After 5 more minutes I told that was enough and she could stop and she put her hand up for a tip. I stood up and told her that I already tipped her and she said no you tipped her and pointed to a different massage girl. I asked who was in charge and she pointed to the mamasan. I went over to the mamasan and told her what happened and to my surprise, she gave me my drinks for free. I also went to the main manager in EDSA, Momma Shirley and she came in the bar and when I left she was chewing some ass:D
FYI, watch your check bin at EDSA. The Cotton Club and Space Girls now are giving double ladies drinks for 390P without asking:(
Robb
[QUOTE=Robbaf]I agree that LAC has become a local hangout. Last month I saw girls with locals stroll and try to pick up foreigners:( Someday I think we are going to get a bad report out of this type of action:(
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LAC is popular amongst local merchant seamen on shore leave. I have drank with groups of them a couple of times and they are good fun, very broadminded and after exactly the same thing as the rest of us.
I would have thought that the price of drink in there would have made it unattractive to locally based guys. They would pay less than a third of the LAC prices in a local KTV pick-up joint, where they could also 'sing' to their hearts content.
LAC turfed out most of the mamasans after a brawl, a couple of years ago, which greatly improved the place. Hope that they haven't reverted to the bad old days when some of the cuter girls were only available through a greedy intermediary. I think it was the East Asians who encouraged this development as they prefer obtaining their girls through a mamasan.
i was at la café yesterday.
some ugly girl in her late 30's was trying to get my attention. she said she was very skilled, was the queen of bj etc. pretty agressive.
she understood she wasn't going to hook me, so she introduced me to her "student" (erm? wtf.) she was an ok looking girl, looking quite young to be honnest (she claimed she was 21 but she looked 17).
the old lady said i could book both as a "mother & daughter thing", even though she clearly wasn't her daughter.
then she said i could book the young girl alone, i was tempted, but looked mature for her age, she wishpered dirty things to my ears, promised me a lot, i have to admit i was turned on!
then my senses took over, i asked to see an id. she showed me some "high school" id, which didn't include a dob. she had no id with a dob.
i'm not going to risk fucking a minor who goes to high school, so i walked away.
warning you guys, there are some wannabe mamasan at la café, and such things (if the girls have bad intention) can lead you to big troubles in the girl is **** even by only a few weeks!
was anyone in a similiar situation at la café?
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[quote=escort fan]i was at la café yesterday.
some ugly girl in her late 30's was trying to get my attention. she said she was very skilled, was the queen of bj etc. pretty agressive.
she understood she wasn't going to hook me, so she introduced me to her "student" (erm? wtf.) she was an ok looking girl, looking quite young to be honnest (she claimed she was 21 but she looked 17).
the old lady said i could book both as a "mother & daughter thing", even though she clearly wasn't her daughter.
then she said i could book the young girl alone, i was tempted, but looked mature for her age, she wishpered dirty things to my ears, promised me a lot, i have to admit i was turned on!
then my senses took over, i asked to see an id. she showed me some "high school" id, which didn't include a dob. she had no id with a dob.
i'm not going to risk fucking a minor who goes to high school, so i walked away.
warning you guys, there are some wannabe mamasan at la café, and such things (if the girls have bad intention) can lead you to big troubles in the girl is **** even by only a few weeks!
was anyone in a similiar situation at la café?
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you did the right thing i also turn down a girl at la cafe few month ago, i bring her back to the hotel and the hotel security check her id she is only 17 so i give her 100 peso for taxi to go back home.
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Escort,
You did the right thing I also turn down a girl at LA cafe few month ago, I bring her back to the hotel and the hotel security check her ID she is only 17 so I give her 100 peso for taxi to go back home.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]And guys get pissed off when the girls get checked heading into their hotel. Check away, I'm banging them no matter what as long as they are 18+.
[QUOTE=Bronxnik]Tuesday evening 03 Nov 2009
I live deep in the boondocks of Centgral Mindanao now, and I think only fools hang out long time in manila. However, the world is full of fools.
LAC wasn't as crowded with females as I had expected. I was assuming that the recent spate of flooding would severely increase the number of females in manila who needed a shot of cash.
Many, many local men seen. Previous years, this was almost exclusively a foreigner's joint.
Immediately when you walk in, one must turn left or right to go further. Going right, I spotted a much older woman. Pimp working inside LA Cafe? Ownership must have changed.
Despite having come to Manila alone, I didn't feel the urge to actually take one of the girls, notwithstanding a few real beauties that were seen entering around 730pm. Just didn't want to bother with the whole alert-security-stance required when dealing with a stranger in one's room. Not to mention that the 1500 or so required, is what I spend to keep a 19-year old vagina standing by to service me, for 3 months at home.
I don't drink, and the music-selection and sound-system is quite mediocre. Left after just a few minutes.
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[QUOTE=Bob Bowie]3 types of drugs in one plane ride to a third world country? Too risky.
Why nott over pay some local Pinay from San Fran for risk free fun.
Save the airfare, lost time for travel, hotel cost plus the cost of years in prison. You will probably save money by having a huge party at home.[/QUOTE]Good points, but Im sure he isnt bringing 3 different drugs from San fran.
This is the PI!
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]Yes, this is my experience 99 out of 100 times when you buy on the street. The weed (or anything else) will be LOW GRADE CRAP!!! So unless you know somebody, socially or through legitimate business connections, you will be buying garbage and risking a hell of a lot in doing so.
I know this kind of advice falls on deaf ears. Some guys just think they are invincible, but the local police know who is selling to tourists, so you mark yourself every time you start to negotiate with the shills. And any time the police want to raise some money they will go out and bust some idiot tourist. It’s like picking a ripe mango off the tree. The big risk is you get busted by some hardass who has a personal vendetta against gringos. Then you go straight to jail and the big shakedown will begin. To me, the reward - shitty dope is not worth the risk (even if the risk is small in certain areas). If I want to get high, I stay in the USA where I have connections that go back 20 years or I go to Amsterdam where it is legal and potent.
Just my 2 centavos.[/QUOTE]Plenty of relatives, friends, family that can hook you up with the sticky icky that is potent. And there is no problem as it is all good with them in the PI. Same as having a beer. My personal opinion and info from others, is the law as layed out is strict if getting busted, but if you get caught make sure you pay the person off that busts you and don't go any further. Pretty sure $50. $100 US is no problem to stay out of jail and banging girls like you should be.
[QUOTE=Lustforthrust]On the bright side, you get to do MJ's Thriller with all those trannies once in a while.[/QUOTE]
I was given a short tour of the federal prison at New Bilibid a few years ago. With a little help from outsiders they had created a university within the walls, wrote their own dramatic and musical production, and performed it for me and several other visitors. These guys were not all trannies, just cut from the same general fabric as all the Filipinos who never pass up a chance to sing Karaoke.
As for MJ's Thriller, there's a new youtube video from Cebu city jail of a medley of Queen songs. (Search for Queen medley) The TV who played the woman in the Thriller gig now has a beard. There are a few women prisoners performing again, and the men are in their usual orange jumpsuits. But wait'll you get a look at the costumes that the bearded TV and two of her pals are wearing. Obviously any medley from Queen is fitting for them, but it cracks me up thinking about what the scene must be like with the TVs rehearsing that production with all the presumably straight men.
[QUOTE=The Rooster1]And guys get pissed off when the girls get checked heading into their hotel. Check away, I'm banging them no matter what as long as they are 18+.[/QUOTE]Rooster,
I think hotel check ID is good for your own safetly ,the Las Plamas hotel security always check girl id and contact you when the girl leave make sure everything is ok ,don't forget thief come in any age .
Fast eddie 48
[quote=fast eddie 48]rooster,
i think hotel check id is good for your own safetly ,the las plamas hotel security always check girl id and contact you when the girl leave make sure everything is ok ,don't forget thief come in any age .
fast eddie 48[/quote]
i remember las palmas doorman checking my girl's id, then calling the head security over, and he told me, "this girl is only 17". i was very relieved, sent her home with 100p taxi money. those guys are good, looking after guests' interests. told me a horror story re: **** girls later. they have no interest in "bothering" you, just looking out for you and hotel's reputation.
Went slumming it in Harrison Plaza the other afternoon. Thought I would use the services of one of the pimps that hang about on the second floor to see what he came up with. The first two he brought me, I rejected outright. One was too fat, and the other looked only about 16! Off he went again and brought back a tiny little thing, 21 with one kid. We agreed a 2 pop ST for 800 pesos and 200 to the pimp.
Miss P was cute enough with that sluttish, pouting look that Filipina’s do so well. Unfortunately she was wearing one of those lying, uplift bra’s which, when I got it off, revealed breasts like two peas on an ironing board. Ah, well. Good professional service included a decent BBBJ with COF (near blinded the poor girl), then we cuddled for a while and she told me that she formerly worked at Wendy’s and contract expired, she took up whoring 2 months before to support her fatherless child. She said that I was her second white foreigner with most of her customers either being Filipino or Korean. She said that she only accepted one customer a day …hmmm. I asked her why she didn’t try LAC? She said that she had never heard of it. She does now!
FS in various positions with reverse cowgirl doing the trick for me. She was out the door about 90 minutes after we arrived at Sogo which is conveniently close to H Plaza.
For those who don’t mind dealing with slimy pimps and cannot be bothered to hunt for a WG or an amateur, this is a relatively hassle free way of shopping for pussy in the mall. Just stand at the 2nd floor balcony for a short while and the one of the pimps will find you quickly enough.
yea, but that must have been a tad embarassing. better safe than sorry. x
[quote=mr hawaii]i remember las palmas doorman checking my girl's id, then calling the head security over, and he told me, "this girl is only 17". i was very relieved, sent her home with 100p taxi money. those guys are good, looking after guests' interests. told me a horror story re: **** girls later. they have no interest in "bothering" you, just looking out for you and hotel's reputation.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]
Went slumming it in Harrison Plaza the other afternoon. Thought I would use the services of one of the pimps that hang about on the second floor to see what he came up with. The first two he brought me, I rejected outright. One was too fat, and the other looked only about 16! Off he went again and brought back a tiny little thing, 21 with one kid. We agreed a 2 pop ST for 800 pesos and 200 to the pimp.
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You nasty, nasty man. Blinding the poor girl with all that stuff. BUT, it sounds like a fun afternoon.
Slim
I was bemused with your post about girls and prices in Manila, and your comparison with the place where you live. (and your 19 year old). Green with envy.
For my interest, where do you live?
I plan to go to CDO for a few days early December, and take a day trip to Valencia, Bukidnon, just to look. Several mongers have said that the women from Valencia are the horniest in all of Phils.
Do you have an opinion on this?
Gangles
Just planning my second trip to Manila on business and was looking for some advise on a nice romantic resort to take a friend over a weekend. She is a office worker who I met on my last visit and I would really like to create a nice experience. Any suggestions?
[QUOTE=Infinity1]Just planning my second trip to Manila on business and was looking for some advise on a nice romantic resort to take a friend over a weekend. She is a office worker who I met on my last visit and I would really like to create a nice experience. Any suggestions? [/QUOTE]A fellow contryman of mine owns a resort in Mayo bay? Always meant to check it out but haven't been back to phils for over 2 years now.
Take her to Tagaytay. Its very scenic, plenty of hotels and a relatively short drive south from Manila. Get a room at one of the hotels that has a view of the volcano and lake from above.
[QUOTE=Infinity1]Just planning my second trip to Manila on business and was looking for some advise on a nice romantic resort to take a friend over a weekend. She is a office worker who I met on my last visit and I would really like to create a nice experience. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]It's a 3 hr van ride + 45 min ferry from Manila.
We stayed at Coco Beach resort: nice because it's isolated so there aren't any touts, etc., and the restaurants are very intimate.
[QUOTE=Infinity1]Just planning my second trip to Manila on business and was looking for some advise on a nice romantic resort to take a friend over a weekend. She is a office worker who I met on my last visit and I would really like to create a nice experience. Any suggestions? [/QUOTE]Infinity 1,
There are many beautiful and romantic getaway in PI, just ask her where do she like to go for the weekend, if she like the mountain go to Baguio or she like the beach go to Boracay or Panglao island.
Fast Eddie 48
How much does it cost for a Bar Fine at Roxas St. or Ave? I was there between flights and did a in house ST. They charged me 5000P. Was I being ripped off or is this the going rate. They wanted something like 7-8K for LT take out. I think the girls there were good looking but many looked a little professional. She had 2 tatoos which I didn't see when I BF her.
What is prices on Burgos St and EDSA. I have never BF from any of those places yet. Are there many niave beginners in Manila?
The cost seems high, but MNL does have a learning curve. What place did you go to? Can you give us a quick review? X
[QUOTE=Big Johnson2]How much does it cost for a Bar Fine at Roxas St. or Ave? I was there between flights and did a in house ST. They charged me 5000P. Was I being ripped off or is this the going rate. They wanted something like 7-8K for LT take out. I think the girls there were good looking but many looked a little professional. She had 2 tatoos which I didn't see when I BF her.
What is prices on Burgos St and EDSA. I have never BF from any of those places yet. Are there many niave beginners in Manila?[/QUOTE]
I've only gone on a one day trip and agree that its a magical place.
Can you give a hotel recommendation? X
[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]Take her to Tagaytay. Its very scenic, plenty of hotels and a relatively short drive south from Manila. Get a room at one of the hotels that has a view of the volcano and lake from above.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Big Johnson2]How much does it cost for a Bar Fine at Roxas St. Or Ave? I was there between flights and did a in house ST. They charged me 5000P. Was I being ripped off or is this the going rate. They wanted something like 7-8K for LT take out. I think the girls there were good looking but many looked a little professional. She had 2 tatoos which I didn't see when I BF her.
What is prices on Burgos St and EDSA. I have never BF from any of those places yet. Are there many niave beginners in Manila?[/QUOTE]Big Johnson
I think you go to a Japanese KTV in roxas and they are very expensive,but you should of bargin down,so how much you need to paid the girl or 5000 p include FS,most kyv at edsa and burgo is 1500 p for take out and you paid the girl for extra at hotel after 1500-3000 all night.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=X Man]I've only gone on a one day trip and agree that its a magical place.
Can you give a hotel recommendation? X[/QUOTE]
I stayed in the following hotels. Ofcourse it all depends on your budget and your needs:
Country hotel
A little bit overpriced, very nice rooms, pool, but very small tv, no lake view but in the centre of tagaytay.
New Orleans hotel
More value for money although no pool. Lake view in some rooms. In the center of Tagaytay as well.
I forgot the name but i can try to serach for it
Great view, get a bungalow. Very romantic, not in the center and currently under renovation.
If you want to save some money you can take an aircon bus to tagaytay from Manila (a.o. from Pasay).
A private trip to the lake and the vulcano (transport by van, boat, admission fee, guide) costed last month 2.500 pesos. Excluding the horse ride to the vulcano.
[QUOTE=Bronxnik]Tuesday evening 03 Nov 2009
I live deep in the boondocks of Centgral Mindanao now, and I think only fools hang out long time in manila. However, the world is full of fools.
LAC wasn't as crowded with females as I had expected. I was assuming that the recent spate of flooding would severely increase the number of females in manila who needed a shot of cash.
Despite having come to Manila alone, I didn't feel the urge to actually take one of the girls, notwithstanding a few real beauties that were seen entering around 730pm. Just didn't want to bother with the whole alert-security-stance required when dealing with a stranger in one's room. Not to mention that the 1500 or so required, is what I spend to keep a 19-year old vagina standing by to service me, for 3 months at home.[/QUOTE]Hey Bronxnic,
Wow 1500 seems very low. How many times can you call on your 19-year old standby during that 3 month period for that 1500? I send my steady back to Samar when I leave PI for 2 to 3 months at a time and I guess I give her 5K-7K per month while she is down there. Are LBFMs in Mindanao really so affordable?
We were at Taal Vist Hotel. At least a hundred rooms and great views where we were. They had a fabulous spread for brunch on Sunday. I don't remember the price. They have brunch entertainment on Sundays which consists of cultural dancers. I was a bit richer than I am now but room was less than $100.00
Its a great place to take a woman to for a couple of days and fairly convenient from Manila. She will cream in her jeans.
Be warned there is a petite cutie I met last night at G-Point who found my extra pesos in my room while I was in the shower and lifted them. Afterwards, she followed through with the act, then cuddled a bit. Suddenly she said she had to leave earlier than I expected her to. I didn't think anything of it at the time, such behavior is common, but it should have alerted me that something was not right when she didn't say anything about getting paid before leaving the hotel. I actually gave her a modest tip due to the brevity of the session and she never blinked. Insult to injury. Nasty little mynx in such a nice girl guise...
At least she did not find my home currency. Most definitely my fault for making it too easy for her to find, but the hotel (Exec Plaza) does not have safes in the rooms. Bad, that... I checked out this morning and moved over to another hotel that does have safes in the rooms.
She went by the name Lovely and claims to be from Panay and says she works at Divisoria Mall. Which I'm sure is BS. She gave me a fake phone number too. I suppose I'll have a chat with G Point management tonight, but I'm sure that won't go anywhere. Buyer beware, that sort of thing. Maybe I'll find her friends there and put a scare into them. In any case, it's a writeoff, no use stewing about it. For what I lost, it's a relatively cheap lesson learned.
[QUOTE=Finrod]Be warned there is a petite cutie I met last night at G-Point who found my extra pesos in my room while I was in the shower and lifted them... [/QUOTE]
Thanks for the heads up, Finrod. No doubt the girl flits between LAC and Amazonia too, with a little mall trolling at Robinson's thrown in, no doubt. Many of these girls will not pass up an opportunity to lift from foreigners, given the slightest chance.
Mind you her name does sound assumed;). She certainly wasn't lovely for you. Hope that you didn't lose too much.
Shame you couldn't snatch a photo of her. Remember reading a tip here a while ago about taking a photo of a pick-up immediately on entering your room. Don't suppose it would stop them but it might put them off. Presumably the Exec Plaza do not check the ID's of joiners?
[QUOTE=Finrod]At least she did not find my home currency. Most definitely my fault for making it too easy for her to find, but the hotel (Exec Plaza) does not have safes in the rooms.[/QUOTE]I've used that hotel twice now and for a total of about 7 days. They have only called up to my room asking if it's ok for the girl to leave about half the time and they have never taken the ID of the girl or checked it for me. I've heard they have for other members though. The safety boxes I saw behind the counter looked like only half of them weren't broken. After hearing about other hotels, I doubt if I will be returning to that place. Eurotel I've heard has safes in the room, free wifi and even closer to Robinson Mall. It looks nice for the price online, but not worth it to me once you actually see it.
[QUOTE=Finrod]Be warned there is a petite cutie I met last night at G-Point who found my extra pesos in my room while I was in the shower and lifted them. Afterwards, she followed through with the act, then cuddled a bit. Suddenly she said she had to leave earlier than I expected her to. I didn't think anything of it at the time, such behavior is common, but it should have alerted me that something was not right when she didn't say anything about getting paid before leaving the hotel. I actually gave her a modest tip due to the brevity of the session and she never blinked. Insult to injury. Nasty little mynx in such a nice girl guise...
At least she did not find my home currency. Most definitely my fault for making it too easy for her to find, but the hotel (Exec Plaza) does not have safes in the rooms. Bad, that... I checked out this morning and moved over to another hotel that does have safes in the rooms.
She went by the name Lovely and claims to be from Panay and says she works at Divisoria Mall. Which I'm sure is BS. She gave me a fake phone number too. I suppose I'll have a chat with G Point management tonight, but I'm sure that won't go anywhere. Buyer beware, that sort of thing. Maybe I'll find her friends there and put a scare into them. In any case, it's a writeoff, no use stewing about it. For what I lost, it's a relatively cheap lesson learned.[/QUOTE]
Yes, it is quite a problem if the room does not have safe. Normally we will have some pesos in the pocket even if you put other valuables in the hotel safe.
I usually hide it when she goes to take a shower but sometimes we tend to trust them. I never had anybody take money so far. Many a times I have had two girls in the room and had some $100 dollar bill or two in my pocket.
Anyway learn from the experience.
I send my steady back to Samar when I leave PI for 2 to 3 months at a time and I guess I give her 5K-7K per month while she is down there. Are LBFMs in Mindanao really so affordable?
A few hundred kilometers away from me, is davao city, which is the economic capital of Mindanao (read: most expensive city in Mindanao). Davao has a hospital which does open-heart surgery
The best paying job for a non-RN girl in davao city is call center agent. Only one out of each 250-or-so girls who already have the requirements (4-year degree) under their belt, pass the screening to get hired.
These new hires earn 8000/month.
The department store girls in Davao, take home 105 peso/day. And get fired after 5-1/2 months, by contract.
You obviously have zero idea of what kind of income is normal in your ladyfriend's place in Samar, a place which is close to the bottom of the country in incomes. And you obviously haven't figured out that your 6k/month is paying for continuous alcohol-drinking sprees of about 30 male relatives of the chick.
My place is ==the lowest== income area in the entire country. The median income is 5000/year. As per a recent feature article in Makati Business Mirror newspaper
Rice is a very infrequent luxury here. The staple is cassava root. Rice would be served at wedding receptions. Politicians give out kilo bags of it when buying votes.
The girls here are not Martians. They are the same chicks who will ask for 1500/night, after they get broken in to handling foreigner drunken transient clowns, in Manila.
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Disclaimer: Due to constant whining and personal attacks I will no longer post real life experiences. What I will post is just prices and the basic overall set up of prostitution establishments.
Air Force One
Have seen the place a million times over the years but never been inside so thought I would just check it out.
The Step- Up:
They have medium size parking lot out in the front with adequate security and parking managers. Parking is free of charge. Once you park you will enter two double glass doors and are told to proceed up a short row of red stairs.
Front Desk:
Once upstairs you will be asked do you want a Karaoke room with girl or a massage? I opted for the Karaoke room. You will also be told there is 500 PHP $11 minimum charge.
The Fish Bowl:
From there I was taken to a fish bowl with like 25 girls inside. I selected one with a small deliberation and off we were escorted to the room. They have different level of girls to select from the models to GROs.
The Room:
Large room with private CR. The staff will come in and out at their leisure so there is no privacy even if you and the girl are tempted to do something in there. There is a karaoke machine and a TV showing the live show that is going on right outside. The live show consist of girls dancing singular or in a group in bikinis.
The room is 2000 PHP $44 and they charge 1000 PHP $22 per hour for the girls to sit with you in the room. You can order food and a large selection of alcohol is available.
Barfine is 9000 PHP $195 and you can give the girl whatever.
I barfined one who I was told was GRO. Service was excellent. She had one kid. Did everything I asked and more.
The Wrap Up:
The Girls:
The quality of the girls is on par with what one can find on Burgos period. None of them blew me away in the beauty department like the girls at Pegasus.
The Place:
The Place was cool with decent architecture. The hygiene of the place is in question as I saw two roaches running around the Karaoke room sink.
The staff comes in and out of Karaoke room asking you do you want to try this or that offering hot towels etc…. can become a bit tedious after a while.
Bang For The Buck:
Unless you just got some excess cash to waste I would give it a miss. Better fun to be had on Burgos or if you just feel like spending Pegasus would be in order with its lineup of stunning girls.
She like the beach go to Boracay or Panglao island
In reality, Boracay is one of the worst getaway beach spots, because it is exceptionally over-crowded, and is crawling with foreigners who drive prices into the stratosphere.
Notwithstanding which, filipinos have very little ability to see reality. They believe with all their heart in branded products, and they are herd animals.
Boracay has become a sort of Golden Fleece to these locals. They think it is Hot Shit.
Therefore, I agree with the above quote. Taking an office girl to Boracay will impress her deeply. Let her take plenty of pictures so she can show them off to her officemates.
Get some hepatitis shots before you go. Boracay beach water has rather high level of raw sewerage. When the boom started, the Filipino elites started throwing up hotels to take advantage. These feature the high quality infrastructure (eg, wastewater treatment) for which Filipinos are world-famous.
A rabies vaccination is another excellent idea. Two years ago, a japanese tourist died (in Japan) of rabies he got by being bit from a stray dog in Boracay. Serves him right for driving the prices up.
Get these immunizations in Manila Doctors Hospital (United Nations Avenue, just north of Robinsons), so you aren't given expired meds. I have gotten to the point where I buy the meds and injection-gear at Mercury, and self-administer. Diabetic kids do it all the time, it isn't hard to learn.
When in these sort of places, I buy a smoke detector, and a LARGE fire extinguisher at a local hardware store, keep them at bedside. It is the difference between life and death.
Quite a number of years ago, I let a taxi driver talk me into going into Miss Brunette (I think it's already gone now). It was just after they had unlocked the doors for the evening's business. No girls were in stock yet.
Girls started entering, still holding college textbooks and quite a few were dropped off by boyfriends on motorcycles. 99% were of girl-next-door caliber. They went into the fishbowl, and spent like 45 minutes on each others makeups. This transformed them into what the taxi driver had identified them to be: the most beautiful girls in Manila.
[QUOTE=Warbucks]Disclaimer: Due to constant whining and personal attacks I will no longer post real life experiences. What I will post is just prices and the basic overall set up of prostitution establishments.
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Yeah but it’s a good report though, consise, informative and readable.
Like you I have passed that place countless times and always promised myself ‘next time’. Now I know not to bother.
Jeez – 9T pesos BF – is that right? And you have to pay the girl on top of that? I know that you probably won’t tell but the forum might be interested to know how much and for ST/LT.
Shit – for that sort of money I could rent the party room at my favorite hot sheeter and fill the Jacuzzi with 3 good looking young wenches. Wow, now there's an idea!
Just a thought for those guys who are worried about a girl riffling through their belongings whilst they are in the shower – why not insist on her joining you in there? It’s something that I do as a matter of course anyway and unlike Thai girls, Pinays are usually very comfortable with it. It establishes the intimacy of the encounter and also ensures that she is scrubbed up to my somewhat exacting hygiene standards. And if she refuses (very, very rare), then I more or less know that her performance is going to be [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor anyway and I may as well pay her taxi money and boot her out.
This is also a good thing about the design of ST hotels. You usually find that the bathroom is so designed that, with the door open, you can keep an eye on what is going on in the bedroom and the wall clothes hooks are usually in direct line of sight. So when you pop into the shower in between pops, you can still keep an eye on your stuff. So if you have valuables in your room and are entertaining a freelancer for a ST, it might be worth considering a trip to Sogo or similar, instead of using your hotel room. They can be fairly seedy but are cheap and serve the purpose.
[QUOTE=Warbucks]Air Force One
The Room:
Large room with private CR. The staff will come in and out at their leisure so there is no privacy even if you and the girl are tempted to do something in there. There is a karaoke machine and a TV showing the live show that is going on right outside. The live show consist of girls dancing singular or in a group in bikinis.
The room is 2000 PHP $44 and they charge 1000 PHP $22 per hour for the girls to sit with you in the room. You can order food and a large selection of alcohol is available.
Barfine is 9000 PHP $146 and you can give the girl whatever.
I barfined one who I was told was GRO. Service was excellent. She had one kid. Did everything I asked and more. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the report WB. Only thing I wonder if they have changed at AF1. I was there 10 times last year (at noon when they open before 3 pm flight) and if you choose massage upstairs it 1200P for the room and 1200P for the girl (FS). Downstairs is business class and it was 2500P room and 2500P girl (FS). I have never tried the karaoke room.
Robb
Originally Posted by Warbucks
Disclaimer: Due to constant whining and personal attacks I will no longer post real life experiences. What I will post is just prices and the basic overall set up of prostitution establishments.
Don't loose your swagger on the I.S.G. Man.
I understand constant whining and personal attacks will take a toll on anyone. But to water down anything is like James Brown without soul. You Dig ? Even if we disagree or not, life experience from anyone brings color, vibe, and insight to what we enjoy. Not only do we learn from the reality of our surroundings, but it also brings humor, anger, and natural emotions which brings life to the I.S.G. There are some way out shit being posted on here but, we all know that is the nature of any forum.
Peace,
H5
[QUOTE=Bronxnik]
In reality, Boracay is one of the worst getaway beach spots, because it is exceptionally over-crowded, and is crawling with foreigners who drive prices into the stratosphere.
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And with Filipinos as I think you mentioned. One of these Easters or Xmas breaks I'm sure that the island will up and sink like an overloaded dingy.
[QUOTE=Bronxnik] They believe with all their heart in branded products, and they are herd animals.
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Yup, agree with this one. M&S rules in The Philippines.
[QUOTE=Bronxnik]
Let her take plenty of pictures so she can show them off to her officemates.
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Just try and stop her!
[QUOTE=Bronxnik] These feature the high quality infrastructure (eg, wastewater treatment) for which Filipinos are world-famous.
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Sarcastic git:).
[QUOTE=Bronxnik]
Two years ago, a japanese tourist died (in Japan) of rabies he got by being bit from a stray dog in Boracay. Serves him right for driving the prices up.
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Might he have been bitten by one of the island based wh@res? They are a pretty wild bunch.
[QUOTE=Bronxnik] I have gotten to the point where I buy the meds and injection-gear at Mercury, and self-administer. Diabetic kids do it all the time, it isn't hard to learn.
When in these sort of places, I buy a smoke detector, and a LARGE fire extinguisher at a local hardware store, keep them at bedside. It is the difference between life and death.[/QUOTE]
Fuck me, man!! You sure don't trust the locals, do you?
[QUOTE=Bronxnik]I send my steady back to Samar when I leave PI for 2 to 3 months at a time and I guess I give her 5K-7K per month while she is down there. [/QUOTE]
If she is 'down' (i.e south) in Samar, you more than likely live in Luzon unless you live in the Catanduanes. Surely there are poorer places in the Visayas (ie Samar) and Mindanao than anywhere in Luzon?
I dropped into G-Point last night to talk to the manager. And the girl was there. So I talked to her. She maintained her innocence. She said if she had done it, why would she show up knowing I was still around. Good point, that, but I was not entirely convinced. I will say there is the slightest doubt at the moment: as in a tiny chance that the hotel housekeeping helped themselves to it or a tiny chance that I had a senior moment and put it someplace then forgot that I put it there. I have done that often enough back home. Though I did search around a bit, I didn't search every last nook and cranny of the room.
So for now, she was reported to the supervisor on duty who stated that the bar apparently cares about such things: though the girls are strictly FL'ers, they don't want known troublemakers inside. The supervisor told me they will warn her, another report from someone else and she will get turfed out. The girl knows I reported her. If she is really innocent, then she has nothing to worry about. But if she really did lift my pesos as I still suspect she did, then she's been put on notice.
The girl did tell me that she did not like La Cafe at all: too much meat market atmosphere whereas G-Point is more casual and not as much in your face. The way I see it, the girls are basically a sideline at G-Point. It's an expat hangout bar first and foremost. It's not a bad place to hang out if that's all you want to do. Always seems to be a pool game going on and there's live music after 10pm. Very little pressure from the girls: you can shoo them away and enjoy your food (they have a menu) and drinks in peace which I like.
I'm sure the word spread among all the girls there about the two of us: it will be interesting to see what kind of reception I get when I return to Manila in January. Not that I'm holding my breath: way too many other girls out there.
Everyone knows the meat market at La Cafe. When I'm not in the mood for that, I've gone cruising at a few other places.
Cafe 28 is on Mabini between Salas and Padre Fauria. Pool table, young bartenders, but very few people in there. I understand it's a newer place, just needs better publicity. Staff is friendly.
Amazonia on del Pilar between La Cafe and Padre Fauria St. Waitresses in uniforms, pool table in the back. FLs onsite, but didn't partake. They have ST rooms upstairs, 600pp/3 hours. The FL I talked to wanted 1500pp for ST; I wasn't interested in taking anyone at the time so I didn't bother to negotiate. That one was doable, but her friend trying to pitch her was not. YMMV.
Butterfly Bar on del Pilar between Amazonia and Padre Fauria St. Two pool tables in the back. German menu; guess it must be one of them running this place. Dang cute dancers who are fun to flirt with. There's a DJ spinning tunes for them to dance to. Fun watching that. Don't think they are available for takeout though. One in particular had a rather bubbly personality that belies the tough life she has. Low key vibe, very few customers. FLs walk in from the street to check out the customers, then leave if there's nothing going. OK by me. Some potential, but hard to say, I'm not a student of what makes a bar work or not.
A few other places on del Pilar in this area, but I didn't step into any of them.
[QUOTE=Finrod]I dropped into G-Point last night to talk to the manager. And the girl was there. So I talked to her. She maintained her innocence. She said if she had done it, why would she show up knowing I was still around. Good point, that, but I was not entirely convinced. I will say there is the slightest doubt at the moment: as in a tiny chance that the hotel housekeeping helped themselves to it or a tiny chance that I had a senior moment and put it someplace then forgot that I put it there. I have done that often enough back home. Though I did search around a bit, I didn't search every last nook and cranny of the room.
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On a personal note, I take my reputation and integrity very seriously. As a result of that, I try to respect other people's reputations equally seriously and try to make absolutely sure before I act that I'm without any doubt before I go around accusing other's. That's just me.
In that light, when you had just stated that there was even a hint of doubt about the situation, that perhaps someone else could've taken it or maybe you even misplaced it, is it prudent to go ahead and accuse another person regardless?
Maybe you're leaving and going back to wherever your home is, oblivious to the situation and probably don't care, but the other person is left in the aftermath of suspicion and doubt. Is it really worth it to damage someone else's reputation over what you stated as a "paltry" amount when you yourself have expressed doubt about who the real culprit was?
As I said, I don't mean to preach and I'm not trying to question your character, I'm questioning the decision.
[QUOTE=Warbucks]
Disclaimer: Due to constant whining and personal attacks I will no longer post real life experiences. What I will post is just prices and the basic overall set up of prostitution establishments.
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Thanks for the report and screw the nay sayers. Your reports have always been informative and helpful. Your banter is also good and the attacks are unwarranted.
Can't we all just get along and post about the girls, beers, and lodgings.
Slim
[QUOTE=Finrod]I dropped into G-Point last night to talk to the manager. And the girl was there. So I talked to her. She maintained her innocence.[/QUOTE]Next time you see her, suggest you pull out your cel phone cam and snap a pic of her. Then post her photo so we can all avoid a potential threat.
Pic of an honest-looking Filipina attached. I'd give her the benefit of a doubt. Enjoy Manila, AsianRain
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Miss P was cute enough with that sluttish, pouting look that Filipina’s do so well. Unfortunately she was wearing one of those lying, uplift bra’s which, when I got it off, revealed breasts like two peas on an ironing board.
For those who don’t mind dealing with slimy pimps and cannot be bothered to hunt for a WG or an amateur, this is a relatively hassle free way of shopping for pussy in the mall. Just stand at the 2nd floor balcony for a short while and the one of the pimps will find you quickly enough.[/QUOTE]Hehe... I consider those push-up bras as "false advertising." When I get one of those girls, I like to give their nipples a thorough tweaking...
Hmmm... "slimy pimps"? Harrison Plaza has some real low-lifes, but at least there is no pretense. As long as they deliver the product... I'm there. Enjoy Manila, AsianRain
Zachary, your points are well taken. She has mentioned supporting family in the province and my report to the supervisor could well impinge on that. But thievery should not be tolerated and I am still very sure she was the one as there are just too many details that I left out of my report that are off. They all need to know to just take their payment and leave without touching our stuff.
Not going to post her picture if I get it, that would be overkill IMO. I'm willing to give her a chance to show she's been scared straight on these matters. I will say the phone number turned out not to be fake after all and she has been texting me furiously denying all. Perhaps there will be another chapter in this saga, but I am leaving Manila today so that will likely have to wait awhile.
went to la cafe and hooked up with some nice girls. had lots of fun drinking, bar hopping, listening to a live girl band w/ hot singers, and karaoke. then they tell me they want to go home with me. so we go back to makati and they tell me their sob stories. homes flooded out, no food for their child, no job except lac, etc. they stayed overnight for 3k php. took them shopping the next day, had a couple of meals, more sad stories so sent them home. later heard through the grapevine that one of them spent all her money e-games (online gambling). i wanted to take her to the casino in the hyatt, but she kept on telling me how bad it is to gamble, but then dumped 4.5k php on e-games. i gave her an extra 1.5k for her son's bday next week and she blew all that too. met a couple of other girls on burgos who tried to pull the same games on me. i guess that's their game. they sure can be all sweet and sensual. guess that's what i paid for.
[QUOTE=Asian Rain]Hehe... I consider those push-up bras as "false advertising." When I get one of those girls, I like to give their nipples a thorough tweaking...[/quote]Agreed Asian Rain. Hate when a girl shows some nice potential with good cleavage and what looks like a nice rack but.... when you get the bra off it's not as "advertised"! False advertising indeed!
AF
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Big Johnson
I think you go to a Japanese KTV in roxas and they are very expensive,but you should of bargin down,so how much you need to paid the girl or 5000 p include FS,most kyv at edsa and burgo is 1500 p for take out and you paid the girl for extra at hotel after 1500-3000 all night.
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I'm not sure which bar it was on Roxas, but I think it probably was a japanese type by w/ one girl at a time coming out on stage. I had to go to the back to see the girls behind glass. Went to several and they were all the same. None had many girls on stage.
You mentioned 1500P for EDSA and Burgos. Is this just the BF and I'm expected to pay the girl for her services? If this is the case, how much should I pay the girl for her services?
Went to LA Cafe around 10PM on Friday night. The place was packed but I was surprised by the quality of the girls, which I expected to be much lower. I did not stay long but spotted many cuties. It was just too crowded for me and being a cheap Charlie I didn't want to pay the 150 pesos to go upstairs (mostly because I did not intend to stay and I am not sure upstairs is any better than downstairs). The thought that some of these girls might be here because they are rejects from the bars who have STDs (as reported by other in this forum) also turned me off and I decided to head to EDSA instead, but in the end LA Cafe was better than expected.
I was planning to go to Firehouse but the mamasan from Bullets&Arrows, the first bar in front of the door coming in, recognized me from Cotton Club where she used to work. She has made good recommendations in the past so I let her pull me in.
Almost no customers in that bar but many girls including several attractive, tall and big breasts. One, her name is Yuki, started flirting with me while all the girls on stage were cheering and miming sex acts between us. Bought her a few drinks and had a great night. This girl would not say no to anything at all... We started DFK and all kinds of touching in the club, she promised to be wild. I woke up several times during the night and everytime I touched her she responded by moaning and cuddling, nice... Stayed until morning. The only thing I did not like is she had red eyes, she said it was the makeup but she also had red eyes in the morning. Drugs?
Yuki is 21, started working at 16 in Saipan where she catered to US soldiers, lost her virginity at 17 to an american customer who did not even notice. She was brought to Saipan (with fake papers showing that she was older) to be a waitress, found out once she was there that she was a gogo girl, did not have the money to go back and owed her inbound ticket to whoever paid for it. Courageous girl, very pretty, very nice. I gave her 3,000P. The drinks (some for the mamasan) and barfine were about 3,500P.
Would anyone know if there are good soapies in Manila? I searched the forum and came up with some reports on Starfleet but the most recent is from 2007 so I thought I would check... Thank you!
Thanks for the post ME. / A lot of us have heard about LA cafe and also heard about sob stories.
I can't speak for others, but I would love to hear about the bar hopping and live girl band. Are you talking about G point or did you find something new and interesting? X
[QUOTE=Muff Eater]Went to LA Cafe and hooked up with some nice girls. Had lots of fun drinking, bar hopping, listening to a live girl band w/ hot singers, and karaoke. for.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, I don't know the names of the places we went to. I let the girls lead the way. The place with the live band had a guy on a keyboard and one on guitar and three girl singers. The lead singer was kinda plain looking and the other two were HOT. I would've loved to hang with the hot ones! I don't think it was a pick up bar. Several families, working people, etc. They also led the way to the other bars. All within blocks of LA Cafe. Next time I go, I'll pay more attention.
ME
[QUOTE=X Man]Thanks for the post ME. / A lot of us have heard about LA cafe and also heard about sob stories.
I can't speak for others, but I would love to hear about the bar hopping and live girl band. Are you talking about G point or did you find something new and interesting? X[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Finrod]
So for now, she was reported to the supervisor on duty who stated that the bar apparently cares about such things: though the girls are strictly FL'ers, they don't want known troublemakers inside. The supervisor told me they will warn her, another report from someone else and she will get turfed out. The girl knows I reported her. If she is really innocent, then she has nothing to worry about. But if she really did lift my pesos as I still suspect she did, then she's been put on notice. [/QUOTE]
You did the right thing. If she didn't do it, the disagreement will soon be water under the bridge. If she did it, she's on notice to others who care. I suspect it's not just the management who care; some of the other women care, because FL is a business to them, and they know that a bad apple spreads to the reputation of all the others. I have had women at LA Cafe warn me about others there with drug, alcohol, and sticky finger problems. Some argue that this is just a ploy to polish my apple so I'll take them, but I'm talking about conversations with women sitting around BSing with me and a friend whom I've already committed to take out. And LA's management does run some troublemakers off. In the end, of course, it's harder to run herd on the crowd at LA than at G-Point. The point is, bar management and the other women do care.
Regarding keeping valuables in the room, I purchased a nifty package called a pacsafe. I got it for about $40 from REI stateside, but lots of places sell it. It's a heavy nylon bag with steel mesh woven in to prevent cutting through. A cable draws it shut and permits it to be locked to whatever you choose. I usually lock it to the plumbing under the bathroom sink. I keep my passport, credit cards, camera, and most of my cash in it, and then just carry smaller amounts with me. It's easy to move stuff in and out of it when you need something or when you want to secure goodies during horizontal recreation. When not in use it rolls up to about 8 inches in length and maybe 2-3 inches in diameter.
I haven't had need to look for such things in the past, but may have in the near future. Any suggestions where to look, especially in Ermita-Malate area?
Thanks, Skip
[QUOTE=Asian Rain]Next time you see her, suggest you pull out your cel phone cam and snap a pic of her. Then post her photo so we can all avoid a potential threat.
Pic of an honest-looking Filipina attached. I'd give her the benefit of a doubt. Enjoy Manila, AsianRain[/QUOTE]
AR+:
great to read something from you again! BTW, nice boobs the girl has! :) Tx for sharing this pic!
Cheers!
Hesekiels
[color=purple]Skip, if you are walking on Adriatico coming from Robinson Mall going toward Pacific Plaza Hotel and on the same side of the street as the the hotel. You will pass by a cake shop about a block before you get to the hotel. The cake shop make wild cakes and sells vibrators, dildos and more.
RaZZorR[/color]
[QUOTE=Skip Kost]I haven't had need to look for such things in the past, but may have in the near future. Any suggestions where to look, especially in Ermita-Malate area?
Thanks, Skip[/quote]
So here we have this early-50's pinay, but with strong unadulterated Southern American accent, speaking English to a filipino guy, mid 20's, next breakfast table over. Mom speaking with american-born kid, i figured.
Ran into him in my wing of the hotel. Asked him which part of California he's from.
"No, my girlfriend is from Houston", he replied in a filipino accent.
If chicks in Texas can drive a pickup truck, I suppose they can also go overseas to get laid.
I've seen older white guys with local young guys, in Davao and in Cagayan de Oro. Hey, orientation-equality is the call of the moment.
Apropos of bakeries, the main part of Jorge Bacobo street, in between Padre Faura & UN Avenue, has an ordinary looking bakery, as your left-had side as you walk from Faura to UN. But in the back room, there's a display case with actual, correct, American style apple pies. With correctly made pie crusts.
Really an unusual find outside of the toney part of Makati. Perhaps the buyers are the physicians at Manila Doctors Hospital (UN corner Taft), many of whom have done residencies Stateside.
I return to Mindanao tomorrow. Back to rice, rice rice. It's the price I pay for the cheap pussy.
Arrived on Thursday afternoon. Had preplanned my dates so that I knew my sked well in advance.
First dance was with a sweet one (30) who I knew from Friendster. Taken her time but shes warmed up to me nicely. 42 kgs, happy smile, easy to be with. Just the way I like. Back to my condo, one glass vodka and shes already dancing on my dick. Watched movie, ate pizza, drank some more then she whispers " its good to be with you, you can do anything you like". I obliged by nailing her back door which made her squeal " gosh gosh gosh. ". Better than the regular " oh shit oh shit" I hear often.
She stayed the night, then next afternoon picked up Number 2. She and I had met before (35 now) and she had sadly grown since last meeting. Anyways took her to Sogo, and let her wear the cheap and trashy lingerie Id bought for her. Let me take lots of pics. but too be honest I wasnt into banging her. Maybe 56 kgs which is a lot bigger than my 42 kg friend with whom I was making mental comparisons. Took 2 hours on Friday night to drive her back to Makati then onto Burgos. Had fun in Wow3 and Stardust where I have some regular gals. Home by 2am.
Sat am and off to meet a chatmate near alabang. We'd been chatting for past 6 weeks and she was sending me lots of " I'm so excited" sms since I arrived in Manila. Arranged to meet, and I can see a very pretty girl walking to my car. Sweet and happy (24,) and 42 kgs. She had told me she was tired of young guys always breaking her heart, so I was her first " older guy". She also told me I was her 5th guy.
Went to Sogo. Shaved her, sex and later she had a nice version of a blow job. Was very good afternoon, until I dropped her off near Mall of Asia. She decided she wanted to go to parlour for her hair to be redone, and would I give her P2500. no way honey. well she had a little hissy fit but soon calmed down. Gave her P500 to take taxi home. She then sent me 100 sms telling me shes sorry, she loves me etc.
Saturday night and back to Burgos. Somewhere around 11pm I decided I wanted Number 1 again so we arranged to meet at 2am near my place. We did, and eventually we slept at about 5am.
Woke up with sex for breakfast and thought we would go out for breakfast and the Manny fight. Damn, everywhere showing the Many fight full full full. Managed a bacon roll and SMB for breakfast and saw hundreds of Filipinos appreciate their number one brand whilst drinking their number 2 brand LOL.
Drop girl off with kiss, rush to airport, get on plane and sleeeeeeeeeep.
Anther wonderful tiring great weekend. Ready to repeat in December!
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[QUOTE=Razzor][color=purple]Skip, if you are walking on Adriatico coming from Robinson Mall going toward Pacific Plaza Hotel and on the same side of the street as the the hotel. You will pass by a cake shop about a block before you get to the hotel. The cake shop make wild cakes and sells vibrators, dildos and more.
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Thanks Razzor - as I may need this tip as that saves me bringing the toys from the UAE and then getting them back into the UAE again. Trust they sell butt plugs...:D
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]
She stayed the night, then next afternoon picked up Number 2. She and I had met before (35 now) and she had sadly grown since last meeting. Anyways took her to Sogo, and let her wear the cheap and trashy lingerie Id bought for her. Let me take lots of pics. but too be honest I wasnt into banging her. Maybe 56 kgs
Anther wonderful tiring great weekend. Ready to repeat in December!
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FF
Nice FR always enjoy them.
But you are braver man than me...56kgs in lingerie....admittedly each to his own flavour and shape but still I admire your dedication to the cause...and glad that you enjoy it and do it and not me :D
Maybe catch up in December for a SMB
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]FF
Nice FR always enjoy them.
But you are braver man than me...56kgs in lingerie....admittedly each to his own flavour and shape but still I admire your dedication to the cause...and glad that you enjoy it and do it and not me :D
Maybe catch up in December for a SMB[/QUOTE]Yeah, it wasnt my finest moment, but Id already arranged and it was only when we were in the car and she sat down that I saw the larger than expected Jollibee bulge. Nice boobs tho. Anyways been there done that. Shes another one I can tick off the list. I'm up to 75% of my YM chat mates that I've done. And the list has 100 names LOL
[QUOTE=Asian Rain]Next time you see her, suggest you pull out your cel phone cam and snap a pic of her. Then post her photo so we can all avoid a potential threat.
Pic of an honest-looking Filipina attached. I'd give her the benefit of a doubt. Enjoy Manila, AsianRain[/QUOTE]
Excellent boobs for a Filipina. Are they real. Please post some more pictures of this girl? Where does she work?
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Thanks Razzor - as I may need this tip as that saves me bringing the toys from the UAE and then getting them back into the UAE again. Trust they sell butt plugs...:D[/QUOTE]
After a few of those pinoy pastries you'll definitely need one. ;)
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger]After a few of those pinoy pastries you'll definitely need one. ;)[/QUOTE]
If its the shop that I think, they do an excellent line in tit cake...I kid you not - breast shaped cakes with a scrumptious sweet red nipple. They also do erect penis cakes but for obvious reasons I haven't tried one of those:eek:
Somewhere amongst the portable garbage dump that I call my filing system, I have the contact no's for sex toy agents based in Manila and Angeles. The young female agent in Manila has an interesting selling gimmick in that she will let you try out the sex toys on her before you buy:D.
I'll dig out her contact details if anyone is interested.
First off, I had been planning a trip to Manila for quite a while, but had been looking at the Philippines forum on this site for longer. I think there are quite a few blokes like me who want to enjoy the lovely pinoy girls but want to do it discreetly, so if you are like me, reading this site but not posting, wanting to enjoy, but discreetly then there are some great massage places for you.
I found in the massage parlours all i needed for a reasonable price. I went to three, The Imperial Massage in Q City, the Maalikaya Health Complex in Q City and a place, I think was called Don Pedro just over the street at the top end of P Burgos in Makati. I was met by warm and friendly male staff, who took me to a goldfish bowl in all the above places, where you can choose which woman you want. I thought that a good 60% of them were 7+, and I had a real 9 at the last place. Nice slow shower with her washing my wedding tackle with extra care, chatting all the while, slow, nude massage with lots of teasing, giggling, licking. dimmed the lights, got down to business, nice bbbj in two of the places, covered in the last - nice long protected sex, pillow talk, nice chat. No bullshit with the girls either, none of them told me the usual 'you got such a big dick' bull, none of them told me they been working there for 'only two weeks' etc - just an honest, friendly service - also no hassling for money, they took the tip I gave them with a smile.
800 pesos for the luxury room
1500 pesos tip (recommended by the filipino massage site on ********)
One of the reasons also, that i wanted to be discreet was that on arrival in P. Burgos Street (I stayed in the hotel there) I was utterfly shocked and absolutely appalled by the behaviour of some men there. Just because you can afford to treat people like shit, doesn't mean you have to. Honestly I saw men walking up and down that strip grabbing on any woman that they felt like. These girls are people too. I hope we can work together to intimidate these pigs into acting a bit more like gentlemen. They are really letting us down by acting like that.
[QUOTE=Mickey Race]
One of the reasons also, that i wanted to be discreet was that on arrival in P. Burgos Street (I stayed in the hotel there) I was utterfly shocked and absolutely appalled by the behaviour of some men there. Just because you can afford to treat people like shit, doesn't mean you have to. Honestly I saw men walking up and down that strip grabbing on any woman that they felt like. These girls are people too. I hope we can work together to intimidate these pigs into acting a bit more like gentlemen. They are really letting us down by acting like that.[/QUOTE]
Firstly, nice report Mickey. Very little reporting on the MP scene here. We all know that its not a patch on that to be found in LOS, but its often a convenient option for those who have limited time and an itch that needs scratching.
There is also Happy Sauna in Cubao.
These guys were not wearing top to toe tattoo's and Union Jack muscle shirts by any chance? Hate to think that some of my hooligan inclined compatriots have 'discovered' The Philippines instead of taking their 'hols' in Pattaya as is usually the case.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Firstly, nice report Mickey. Very little reporting on the MP scene here. We all know that its not a patch on that to be found in LOS, but its often a convenient option for those who have limited time and an itch that needs scratching.
There is also Happy Sauna in Cubao.
These guys were not wearing top to toe tattoo's and Union Jack muscle shirts by any chance? Hate to think that some of my hooligan inclined compatriots have 'discovered' The Philippines instead of taking their 'hols' in Pattaya as is usually the case.[/QUOTE]Maybe it was the Barmy Army on a team outing.
Hey guys,
I do apologize if this has already been discussed before but how much is it to bar fine a girl in Manila and what is the bar scene like? Other than Angeles City where you recommend to go outside of Manila for barfining girls?
Thanks
Well I am back in the Philippines again...another 2 weeks of hardship and agony :D
This time Manila, AC, Batangas and Davao. No Cebu as Cebu girl (Miss A) is coming to Manila (I know what some maybe thinking – why? But she is so much fun).
Manila is the same mix of noise, pollution, crowds, and pussy. Decided I would do little P4P as I had a few “freebies’ to see and although freebie it still means dinner etc. I would have that regardless so why not in the company of a young slims sexy Filipina and not be a sad bugger eating on your own with a book
This FR is now 2 days into the visit and I have been a busy boy
No Dusit this time as was full for sometime during the period of my time here so chose the Makati Crown Regency which is close by...in fact I went into the Dusit’s business centre and had lunch and no one stopped me so it is a very convenient hotel. Only gripes are the size of the towels (well I am a big guy) and that the internet was very poor – always dropping out/intermittent service and the hotel really did not know why. Likely fault was server or the provider as chatting to others I met that were having the same issues at Oxford Suites.
That aspect was the most frustrating of a nice small hotel in the centre of things in Makati. I was upgraded to a large ‘suite’ which really meant a large room with 2 queen sized beds so that means one for play and one for sleeping :D
First night after arrival I call my good friend (she is also an ISG member) and within 2 hours of settling into the hotel was with 2 lovely 18 year olds (one of whom I met last trip). As always a nice bar or 2 of Cadburys chocolate (large slabs) is much appreciated by everyone and brings a smile to their faces (well I also help :D)
Normal stuff, lots of BBBJ, DATY etc, nice firm tight bodies nice racks and great fun, unhurried, sit and talk, watch TV do more rounds, just all in all a nice way to be welcomed to Manila, Thanks Yxeslhady
Went to Handle Bar later for some nice music, food, drink and company. Always recommended it as not a girlie bar but many expats go there and the place is great. Also may Filipinos go there with friends. Can always pick up a few tips form the regulars.
Next day same thing really, woke late, saw the massage lady from the previous trip – friend of good (swing) friends) – and has long unhurried Greek session with the accompanying toys (well I come accessorised as many will know). Lots BBBJ and DATY plus the mandatory 69 etc, she loves being licked and sitting on my face (and I can’t say no to that :)).
Evening was spent at Handle Bar chatting with friends before late night meeting with another friend who loves to wear red PVC and FM heels ....again small presents from me ....I buy, she wears, we both enjoy.
So 2 days in and I have had lots of fun, met some friends both sexy slim and shaved as well as others who I would never in a million years want to shag.
Tonight? Well another girl I met via DIA, one who said her present to me, as I have brought her a present, is her virgin ass.....well someone has to educate the girls in Greek, might as well be me I suppose...I do love being in this country :D
You pave the road to Athens, WR and I'll follow. LOL
Just lovely to slowly press TRex up a little pinay ass.
Thanks for the report!
B
Cannot figure out why I am so attracted to vertically challenged ladies but I am, provided that they have tight bodies as well. They are common in The Philippines but when it comes to FL’s, I always seem to meet them in the same place.
Was in Robinsons, Ermita, yesterday. I was there to first time meet a lady that I have been chatting with for some time on Tagged. She is a lovely 22 year old phys ed student and boy did it show! However, as pleasant as the luncheon was (at Kamayan, Filipinas love the ‘eat all you can’ buffets), it was evident from early on, that there wasn’t going to be any ‘afters’ today. Shame, but she is a nice girl and fun to hang with and it sure was an ego primping getting so many envious looks from other foreigners walking her through the mall.
So after a hug and a chaste peck on the cheek which had little CS pant snakey waking up, stretching and screaming helloooo baby!, and after the promise of an evening meeting next time (and now that I know that she is addicted to chocolate, I think that I might have got the key to her knickers;)), I put the lady in a taxi, waved baba-yoo and then stood back and considered my options, particularly now that the sleeping monster had been aroused. A little too early for LAC so I thought that I would drift around Robinson’s before parking myself in my favorite hunting perch which is the seating area outside the tea shop near the Padre Faura exit. They do a mean and invigorating pot of Ginseng and honey, and I’ve hooked a few choice catches from there also, but I was not to try either that day.
They are doing a lot of renovation work at Robinsons at the moment and the Department Store seems to be closed (brilliant timing, just before Xmas). They have also moved all of the clothes and knick-knack vending stalls from the centre of the ground floor plaza, which is good news. As I crossed this now nearly empty space, I saw this tiny girl approaching me. She was cute but not beautiful and was about 4 foot 10 and 40 kilos dripping wet. I smiled and she smiled. Braces, ah well ..but not a real problem. I looked over my shoulder as she passed and saw that she had done the same. More smiles. So I thought why not? and turned and followed her.
She stopped near the escalator and I caught up with her. ‘Hi, how you doin’. Did I mention that I do a mean line in chat-up openers? ‘Fine’, she replied. ‘Where you going’ said Lothario. ‘McDonalds’ she replied. ‘Wow, me too, can I buy you lunch’. ‘Sure’, she sez. Pete Stringfellow, eat your heart out:D.
She told me, over her BM, that she was 22 and had recently returned from Dubai where she had worked for an Arab family, as a domestic, for 3 years. She said that she had not had a day off throughout that time. She showed me her passport, so I was able to confirm her age (she looked younger) and what she had told me was true. She said that she has had family problems, had no work, and needed money fast. With these few words I knew immediately that she was available for a little fun in exchange for a few shekels.
So I asked her if she wanted to come with me to my hotel. She said that she was shy and apart from a quick retro-shag with an old boyfriend, now married, just after she returned from UAE, she had seen no action for over 3 years (she seldom left the house in Dubai). ‘Hmmm … so what you doing hanging out in the mall, selling your pussy?’, I thought but didn’t ask. Told her that I had simple tastes today and required just a BJ and a poke and would give her P1000. She wanted P1500 and the deal was struck at P1200.
So off we went to Sogo Hotel. I spend so much time in their lousy hotels, I demand to know why I have yet to be invited to their staff Xmas party? She did turn out to be as shy and inexperienced as she said and naked photos were off the menu. But being a Filipina, she soon warmed up under my gentle ministrations and I after a spot of tipping the velvet that had her moanin’ ‘n a groanin’, she returned the favour very nicely indeed. So much so that we had a little accident involving my knob and her tonsils but she very sweetly let me finish before dashing off to the bathroom making sounds like she had a throat full of sulfuric acid! After she had recovered and my libido meter had returned to the red zone, off we went again like a pair of spastic Duracell bunnies. She definitely fucked like a girl who hadn’t had much recently and her twat was soooo tight. She fair nearly wore me out.
So if you spotted a guy yesterday, in a Man U replica shirt, walking through the mall hand-in-hand with a magnificent 9, and half an hour later saw the same guy with a 4 and a half, you don’t need your eyes checking, it was only me;).
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]So if you spotted a guy yesterday, in a Man you replica shirt, walking through the mall hand-in-hand with a magnificent 9, and half an hour later saw the same guy with a 4 and a half, you don't need your eyes checking, it was only me;).[/QUOTE]What are you CS. Rio Ferdinand in disguise. LOL.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]What are you CS. Rio Ferdinand in disguise. LOL.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha …naughty, naughty. FF..wrong skin tone! More like an older, slimmer, taller version of Rooney …god help me:D.
I've had a look back through the thread but can anyone enlighten me as to the latest BF and Tip expected at Firehouse on EDSA. Not been there for a while and would like to know the going rate. Thanks.
This has always appealed to me. Anyone been there lately?
I haven't been in town for about 2 years.
[QUOTE=Joe Banana]I've had a look back through the thread but can anyone enlighten me as to the latest BF and Tip expected at Firehouse on EDSA. Not been there for a while and would like to know the going rate. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
BF is still 1400P and tip is 2000P. I took one out last weekend.
Robb
[QUOTE=Halnase]Hello guys.
Will head to Manila in 25th of this month. Don't have any idea about the scene there. So I would know about the best places for pick ups? Heard of la cafe(sport bar with waitresses). Heard about burgos st. Clubs & bars. Are these places good joints 4 pick up? How it works? I mean if I want to take agirl I should barfine the girl or the bar? Is this a release fine or what? How much is it? Do I need to pay the girl after?[/QUOTE]Halnase,
worth RTFF as all of your questions are answered here (many in the odd post I have made).
Phils is its own unique ball game - and members here will be really happy to help, but please, do a little reading first and come back with some educated questions. The Reports Of Distinction are a great place to begin.
Best,
WGS
I haven't been in town for about 2 years--always wanted to try.
Anyone been there recently?
I've realised that I like to score with sweet ladies as opposed to the rougher end of the spectrum. Doesn't mean that I treat them any better but I guess I enjoy it when my charm both gets their panties off, and makes them addicted to me.
One such fucklet in Alabang is clearly gagging for my next visit sending me an sms today as follows'
"can we chat later hon. I miss you, I love you I can be your slave if you want".
More love blah blah blah followed
I think we will test this slavish devotion statement out with a few interesting actions on my next trip! My own slave. Wow.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]I've realised that I like to score with sweet ladies as opposed to the rougher end of the spectrum. Doesn't mean that I treat them any better but I guess I enjoy it when my charm both gets their panties off, and makes them addicted to me.
One such fucklet in Alabang is clearly gagging for my next visit sending me an sms today as follows'
"can we chat later hon. I miss you, I love you I can be your slave if you want".
More love blah blah blah followed
I think we will test this slavish devotion statement out with a few interesting actions on my next trip! My own slave. Wow.[/QUOTE]
FF
If she needs any education prior to your arrival let me know as am close to Alabang at the moment.....;) Promise I wont spoil her ;)
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt] They are doing a lot of renovation work at Robinsons at the moment and the Department Store seems to be closed (brilliant timing, just before Xmas). They have also moved all of the clothes and knick-knack vending stalls from the centre of the ground floor plaza, which is good news. [/QUOTE]
I was there on the 22nd and thought the same thing, but the construction is only on the first floor. Floors above are open as usual, and maybe even expanded a little. I also noticed the supermarket had been moved to a more central location from its previous location on the Padre Faura wing. The little vendor stalls in the middle area between Padre Faura and Adriatico wings are gone, as CS notes, and that's sort of disappointing. Some of the women in these stalls always seemed to me to be on the sell themselves.
Come to think of it, when I was there I had a woman of those small proportions on my arm. Maybe it was your 4 1/2 CS. Nah. Mine was easily a 6.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]One such fucklet in Alabang is clearly gagging for my next visit sending me an sms today as follows'
"can we chat later hon. I miss you, I love you I can be your slave if you want".
More love blah blah blah followed
I think we will test this slavish devotion statement out with a few interesting actions on my next trip! My own slave. Wow.[/QUOTE]
Where do they come up with this stuff. I also had a slavish devotee who was once screamin (in an anally traumatized, half-drunken stupor) 'F*ck me Daddy, I'm your slave!'
It was so over the top and out of character, I was completely thrown off my groove. ;-)
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]FF
If she needs any education prior to your arrival let me know as am close to Alabang at the moment.....;) Promise I wont spoil her ;)[/QUOTE]It must Christmas.
The season of "giving" lol.
[QUOTE=Number Six]I haven't been in town for about 2 years--always wanted to try.
Anyone been there recently?[/QUOTE]
Was there a week ago arround 7PM. The line-up was lame. Didn't pick any and went to AF1 down the street. Normally is the other way around. Had a very good section with a girl from Cebu. Got to love these cute Pinais.
Hello, Fellow Mongers,
I was in Manila earlier and posted a report. I do hope it was helpful to some if not all of you.
Being a first time monger in the Phils, it all went well for me. But after reading in the AC thread, I am quite skeptical on what's happening there. But, I have problems. I fell in love with the Phils GFE soooo much and had managed to get a super duper cheap price (USD 8 return) to the Phils on a budget airline. I will be landing my ass again in the Phils next year twice. One in April, the other will be in August. Both will be 4 days and 3 nites
Now, I need opinions on the following from seasoned mongers:
1. Should I stay put in AC and enjoy the delicacies there? Or should I head to Manila and enjoy my stay with previous BF? She seemed to enjoy me very much and we still talk over the phone every fortnight.
2. What would be a valid reason for me to go there? My nature of work does not require to travel internationally and I do not want the wife to smell something fishy!
I know that some of you would reply RTFF but trust you me, I have and all I can say I still need your experience and comments for item 1. As for item 2, I believe a few of you can be a great help to me (FF maybe?.). Anyway, I'd love to meet up with the seasoned/senior members once I am back in the Phils next year and learned from you! Drinks will be on me.
Thanks a lot,
Baj
[QUOTE=Houziwang]Where do they come up with this stuff. I also had a slavish devotee who was once screamin (in an anally traumatized, half-drunken stupor) 'F*ck me Daddy, I'm your slave!'
It was so over the top and out of character, I was completely thrown off my groove. ;-)[/QUOTE]
She have met me before :D.....would never throw me off would make me worse :D...but then am a naughty boy at times.....
FF - I would be a good Santa, lots of pasalubongs.......white and creamy, the colour of snow plus pork (ham) LOL
[QUOTE=Bajuaku]2. What would be a valid reason for me to go there? My nature of work does not require to travel internationally and I do not want the wife to smell something fishy![/QUOTE]Hi Baj,
You really have a dilema here. You are going to soon start asking the question about whether you should stay married, followed by how can I move to the PI full time. Etc.
As far as excuses go, what was your excuse last time?
My worry is that your wife can't be stupid, so sooner or later she is going to catch on. Also, her friends will open her eyes if she won't figure it out for herself.
Excuses that I can think of:
1. Work, your job requires you to go there and work with your customers or your call center in the area.
2. You are an avid scuba diver and you can't get enough of the unspoiled reefs.
3. Lie to her and tell her you are going to somewhere else that is not so notorious for whoring!
4. You are volunteering to work with a humanitarian group helping the poor/orphans/whales/. Etc.
Good luck
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]She have met me before. Would never throw me off would make me worse. But then am a naughty boy at times.
FF. I would be a good Santa, lots of pasalubongs. White and creamy, the colour of snow plus pork (ham) LOL[/QUOTE]Nice one WR.,. Actually I think its time to throw this one back in the pond. Maybe you will get to splatter her.
This is a girl I met once, ok sex, but nothing more than plain vanilla sex. Ie no back door, no chocolate sauce, no blindfold or tieing up games. But yesterdays sms says
" Hi hon, 4giv me if I fell in love with w/u, I'm not gona ask 4 you 2 luv me bck, jst giv me sum of your tym. Wish you cal me, luv you hart nd soul. "
The 1 afternoons bonk we had must have been very memorable to her!
And she wonders why I call her Ms Drama!
[QUOTE=Bajuaku]Hello, Fellow Mongers,
I was in Manila earlier and posted a report. I do hope it was helpful to some if not all of you.
Being a first time monger in the Phils, it all went well for me. But after reading in the AC thread, I am quite skeptical on what's happening there. But, I have problems. I fell in love with the Phils GFE soooo much and had managed to get a super duper cheap price (USD 8 return) to the Phils on a budget airline. I will be landing my ass again in the Phils next year twice. One in April, the other will be in August. Both will be 4 days and 3 nites
Now, I need opinions on the following from seasoned mongers:
1. Should I stay put in AC and enjoy the delicacies there? Or should I head to Manila and enjoy my stay with previous BF? She seemed to enjoy me very much and we still talk over the phone every fortnight.
2. What would be a valid reason for me to go there? My nature of work does not require to travel internationally and I do not want the wife to smell something fishy!
I know that some of you would reply RTFF but trust you me, I have and all I can say I still need your experience and comments for item 1. As for item 2, I believe a few of you can be a great help to me (FF maybe?.). Anyway, I'd love to meet up with the seasoned/senior members once I am back in the Phils next year and learned from you! Drinks will be on me.
Thanks a lot,
Baj[/QUOTE]
In regards to #1, it will all depend when the time comes. She may or may not be available to you. You can always change plans on the fly. It's not like you can't pack up and go to another venue. There is pretty much always some hotel open. But maybe you can't move around, I don't know.
Suggestion for April, if I'm correct and Easter is April 4th, avoid the days prior to this and come after for sure.
[QUOTE=Bajuaku]2. What would be a valid reason for me to go there? My nature of work does not require to travel internationally and I do not want the wife to smell something fishy!
Baj[/QUOTE]This a really really tough one. Depends if you can slowly build a story that says your company is just starting a project with a Philippines company.
Then slowly slowly at the dinner table feed the story about how you are third in charge of the project. Then the number 2 in charge gets sick etc. So you are made number 2. Then number 1 gets re-assigned and you are given the Phils project as team leader and your boss says its important to your career to do it well.
Eventually go home with a long face and say you are really sorry but seems you have to make a 3-4 day trrip there as you are finding it hard to communicate your companies needs via phone etc.
Go there. Have mad fun and after 3 days say that you got bad food and wasted 3 days on toilet, need a further 3-5 days to deal with the contract and that dealing with these Asians is really tricky but your company is relying on you to do a good job. All this is possible if you have enough balls and can lie through your teeth.. And if your wife knows nothing about your work and no one in your immediate office.
Life has many adventures and solving this dilemna is surely an adventure.
Reading the discussion below has me worried...I am planning my first trip to the area just for tourism...will everyone know what I'm doing there?
[QUOTE=Smokers Rule]Reading the discussion below has me worried...I am planning my first trip to the area just for tourism...will everyone know what I'm doing there?[/QUOTE]
Manila is not a sex tourist destination at all. Millions of people go there (unfortunately me too) for work. Manila is like many SEA cities, it has girls available if you want it. Now if you were going to Pattaya in Thai or Angeles in PI then I personally would assume you were a sex tourist. And since we are on this board we are sex tourists at times :D
So telling my friends I am going to Manila to see the sites will not raise eyebrows? Great! :)
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Manila is not a sex tourist destination at all. Millions of people go there (unfortunately me too) for work. Manila is like many SEA cities, it has girls available if you want it. Now if you were going to Pattaya in Thai or Angeles in PI then I personally would assume you were a sex tourist. And since we are on this board we are sex tourists at times :D[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Smokers Rule]So telling my friends I am going to Manila to see the sites will not raise eyebrows? Great! :)[/QUOTE]
what sites? sites are better away from manila... going to manila for tourism to me is like going to a slum in LA or NY or such...
[QUOTE=Smokers Rule]Reading the discussion below has me worried...I am planning my first trip to the area just for tourism...will everyone know what I'm doing there?[/QUOTE]
I think you should go somewhere else for just tourism. No I don't think the stigma of going to the Philippines is anywhere close to what people think if you say you are going to Thailand. My friends at work ride me all the time and all they mention is Thailand and Bangkok, when I rarely go there.
ESDA or Burgos.
[quote=smokers rule]reading the discussion below has me worried...i am planning my first trip to the area just for tourism...will everyone know what i'm doing there?[/quote]
with all the ****s and other boneheads making news on the **** sexcapades, i think it’s a given that most folks in the world including immigration/customs in the u.s. and elsewhere, automatically assume that any guy going to the p.i., thailand, laos, cam/vietnam, etc…is going for sex..it does not matter what city….all they hear is the p.i., thailand, etc. and bingo…you’re one of the sextourist’s guys! and so what! gesh….everyone freaking body in the world is screwing! especially those church going hypocrites who condemn all! sunday morning church and sunday evening, doing the deed! and for you sda hypocrites who call saturday the sabbath, come saturday night, you all out doing the same thing!
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Manila is not a sex tourist destination at all. Millions of people go there (unfortunately me too) for work. Manila is like many SEA cities, it has girls available if you want it. Now if you were going to Pattaya in Thai or Angeles in PI then I personally would assume you were a sex tourist. And since we are on this board we are sex tourists at times :D[/QUOTE]
I agree Tansak...but in your case you seem to fit work around the sex tourism...perhaps it should be reclassified as such based on your activities :D I am a mere observer as you know.
Shame we will miss each other this time but am sure the 'tourism' sights of Manila will keep you hard and horny :D...and she is cute
[QUOTE=Smokers Rule]So telling my friends I am going to Manila to see the sites will not raise eyebrows? Great!.[/QUOTE]Hey, you are going to the PI because it is not Thailand. All the beaches, great snorkling and it is off the beaten track without the highrise hotels. Jeez, why'd you want to go to LOS with all those screaming kids jumping in and out of the pool? And of course, there is all the colonial stuff in Intramurous.
Then you will be heading to walk up Pinotubo on a volcano trek followed by a trip down to Bohol to see the Chocolate Hills and the Tassiers. You are so, like out of touch man. Stop going to all those package destinations and live a little.
That should put them in their box. Most people don't think of PI as a sex destination. It was only once on here I found that you could find great sex there whilst doing something else as well.
Magic place. Role on next week.
WGS
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]I agree Tansak...but in your case you seem to fit work around the sex tourism...perhaps it should be reclassified as such based on your activities :D I am a mere observer as you know.
Shame we will miss each other this time but am sure the 'tourism' sights of Manila will keep you hard and horny :D...and she is cute[/QUOTE]
I arranged my job / work so I could participate in this type of tourism :D And the only sights I want to see are between a certain ladies legs (with the occasional side sights that are available to me :D including her sister) about three weeks on the road in various SEA cities is wearing on me actually. I feel I've let the board down I've only had sex three times today ;) But the night is still young and I'm sure I'll squeeze in two more.
Some people work to retire, I am living my retirement (at a young age of course) I will be sure to keep makati alive in your absence...
[QUOTE=Spokaneman35]ESDA or Burgos.[/QUOTE]
Both:D I am in Makati getting ready to hit burgos and tomorrow nite it is EDSA:)
Robb
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV] Millions of people go there (unfortunately me too) for work. [/QUOTE]
I thought that the reverse was true. Millions of people leave here for work:).
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]I thought that the reverse was true. Millions of people leave here for work:).[/QUOTE]
#1 export... :D unfortunately millions still come in to do work :(
You are a cock.
The end.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I arranged my job / work so I could participate in this type of tourism :D And the only sights I want to see are between a certain ladies legs (with the occasional side sights that are available to me :D including her sister) about three weeks on the road in various SEA cities is wearing on me actually. I feel I've let the board down I've only had sex three times today ;) But the night is still young and I'm sure I'll squeeze in two more.
Some people work to retire, I am living my retirement (at a young age of course) I will be sure to keep makati alive in your absence...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Smokers Rule]Reading the discussion below has me worried. I am planning my first trip to the area just for tourism. Will everyone know what I'm doing there?[/QUOTE]You have really stirred up a bees nest with this comment.
After I thought about this for a few minutes it dawned on me. If you are worried about what other people think than you have bigger problems than being labeled a sex tourist.
My advice is go no matter what people think. Once you have been here for a couple of days and made love to a bunch of women that are more beautiful than any woman who would even look at you in the "western world" you will laugh at people who look down on you.
The truth is everyone else is the loser. We are the winners because we are enjoying life to the fullest without caring what others think!
Just my opinion, don't disregard it until you've tried it.
First night:
I started off in the little brother to LA Cafe, the one just across the street. Dang that music was loud - so loud that talking to the soft-spoken young ladies present was a bit of a non-starter, so I exited after a beer and went a little further up the street to Amazonia. Loud in hear too, but at least it wasn't making my ear drums bleed. Behind the bar, a couple of girls in mock combat gear were doing the most uninspired of dances perched up on coolers. They looked for all the world like female versions of the male dancers you see at Anglo weddings - They dance one night a year and are phenomenally self-conscious about it!
Quiet night in the bar with abouot a 2-1 female to male ratio. I was set upon by a number of cuties - including one with a tongue piercing (and other locations too), but a combination of my tiredness and the lack of 'wow' meant that I passed on getting company here too.
So, off to G-Spot - yes, I know that it is not on Pilar! Quieter band a more 'normal' group of ladies - fearing sleeping alone I chatted with Shane (small-ish, but with nice boobs) and closed the deal inside of 10 minutes. Back to my hotel - no guest check required and up to the room. Now Shane was......OK. You could almost call it GFE, and not in a good way. She would start to BBBJ, go up and down maybe 4 times halfway, and then, just about as I was going to get interested would stop. This happended not once, but about a dozen times. Ho hum. So I suited up and did the 3 main positions (CG, Mish, Doggie) before unloading onto her boobs (I was denied a CIM or COF) and sending her on her merry way with PHP 1500.
Second Night:
Went all the way up to the Slouch Hat for a pie and chips - was OK, and a two piece combo was trying hard to have fun with the crowd of 6!
From there to Hussy's. First time in this place. One client (me!) and 6 girls. There was a very cute, young lady (18 she said) with a nice face and lovely boobs. But, she couldn't be pried away from her older minder (who was not sute at all) and I just got the impression that she might go all starfish on me - and after the first night I was looking for something more 'active.'
So back to Amazonia - smaller male contingent this night, and I get latched onto by an older, plumper lady thgat has done the rounds of Singapore and Japan and clearly knew her way around a dick. Without a doubt the oldest lady there at that time (wish I could remember her name!)
Back to the hotel, and this was just what I was looking for. Bluntly, this woman gave me the best rim job I have ever had. Multiple positions (legs over shoulders, on my side, and on my knees for the full 'rusty trombone' effect. Added to that a better than average BBBJ, and a willingness to let me explore her ass with a lubed thumb and we were very much in business!
The main event started with CG, before RCG and Greek RCG. Lots of tit play (they were big, but a bit saggy) as well as some gentle spanking!
To finish things off, I straddled her and we worked together on jerking me off on to ther tongue! Great stuff.
Like I said, I wish I could remember her name! She should be easy to pick out in Amazonia though - long term 'resident' there - older, larger and like a Filipina MILF!
[QUOTE=Teacup]Solo Bar Crawl on M.H. Pilar - Actually two![/QUOTE]
Well done! Two nights drinking in or near Del Pilar and it appears that you didn't once step foot into LA Cafe main. 10 out of 10 for originality or perversity. Can't quite decide which:).
Hello Ben2, when anyone accuses you of going to Phils, or Thailand or any SERA country fopr sex, just remind them that they are hypocrites.
There are more prostitutes per head of population in Australia, and most western countries, than there are in Thailand, or the Philippines.
In Australia you can get sex in any form you want, hetero, homo, sadism, bondage, young boys, young girls, phone sex, lapdances, bucks parties, anything. Almost anywhere, almost any time.
Every local paper, including my own little town, has between a half and full page of advertisements by prostitutes every day. Brothels are legal. In fact, if a developer wants to open a brothel next door to your house, as long as the legal requirements are satisfied, you have no recourse. In my own little town's paper today, I counted 30 advertisements by prostitutes for their services, plus our government sanctioned brothel.
The worlds largest organised sex tour is in Australia. It is called the gay and lesbian festival, and it is promoted by government.
For example, Germany has about 400,000 professional prostitutes. In 2002, legislation allowed prostitutes to advertise and enter into formal labour contracts. It opened the way for them to get health insurance, previously refused if they listed their true profession.
Annual revenues are about £12.3bn, according to an estimate by the Verdi services union. Taxes on prostitution are an important source of income for some cities. These figures dwarf the prostitution industries in developing countries.
Spain has about 300,000 prostitutes.
Prostitution is also legal and regulated in the Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland, Hungary, Greece, Turkey, in some parts of Australia, and the US state of Nevada.
Tell them to stuff it.
Gangles
Hi, Bajuaku,
you asked for ideas about how to justify your travels to the Philippines.
Here is one.
There is a very big, world wide running organisation/club called the Hash House Harriers. It is a cross country sport.
Some people refer to a bunch of runners with a drinking problem, or a bunch of drinkers with a running problem.
Just google "hash house harriers". Add your home town, and most likely there will be a Hash chapter there.
And there are many national and international events. I am going to a Hash event in Boracay, Phils, on the first weekend in March. So I get there a bit early, and stay for a while after. The Phils is renowned for lots of hash chapters, so it is easy to string a bunch of runs together as a justification.
And it is free, except for a small fee that you pay per run or event.
And the missus will probably be excited that you are getting fit.
PM me back if you want more info.
Gangles
[QUOTE=Gangles]Hello Ben2, when anyone accuses you of going to Phils, or Thailand or any SERA country fopr sex, just remind them that they are hypocrites.
There are more prostitutes per head of population in Australia, and most western countries, than there are in Thailand, or the Philippines.
In Australia you can get sex in any form you want, hetero, homo, sadism, bondage, young boys, young girls, phone sex, lapdances, bucks parties, anything. Almost anywhere, almost any time.
Every local paper, including my own little town, has between a half and full page of advertisements by prostitutes every day. Brothels are legal. In fact, if a developer wants to open a brothel next door to your house, as long as the legal requirements are satisfied, you have no recourse. In my own little town's paper today, I counted 30 advertisements by prostitutes for their services, plus our government sanctioned brothel.
The worlds largest organised sex tour is in Australia. It is called the gay and lesbian festival, and it is promoted by government.
For example, Germany has about 400,000 professional prostitutes. In 2002, legislation allowed prostitutes to advertise and enter into formal labour contracts. It opened the way for them to get health insurance, previously refused if they listed their true profession.
Annual revenues are about £12.3bn, according to an estimate by the Verdi services union. Taxes on prostitution are an important source of income for some cities. These figures dwarf the prostitution industries in developing countries.
Spain has about 300,000 prostitutes.
Prostitution is also legal and regulated in the Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland, Hungary, Greece, Turkey, in some parts of Australia, and the US state of Nevada.
Tell them to stuff it.
Gangles[/QUOTE]
Interesting. And when one USCIS starts giving me shit.... I DO FIRE back.....I do tell the man...I don't have to tell you why or what for I go to where ever it is I am going. Ain't your business. I am an American citizen re-entering the U.S....I am not wanted...your job is just to make sure I can enter legally, have nothing illegal on me, etc...as for all other questions...no law says I have to answer them.
Two can play this game...now get me your supervisor....I have done nothing wrong. Keep the laptop and cell phone...it's wiped clean anyway!
I detest LE...but we need then.....and I agree we need them, however, most are self righteous, melodramatic, sanctimonious hypocrites….when you challenge them because you ARE right, they resent it and want to fuck you over just to show their power.
[QUOTE=Devils 1] My advice is go no matter what people think. Once you have been here for a couple of days and made love to a bunch of women that are more beautiful than any woman who would even look at you in the "western world" you will laugh at people who look down on you.
The truth is everyone else is the loser. We are the winners because we are enjoying life to the fullest without caring what others think! Just my opinion, don't disregard it until you've tried it.[/QUOTE]D1 has a very good point. But I understand that SOME PEOPLE CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH. Like employers or Uncle Charles/Aunt May, or your uptight sister. OK.
Tell these folks that you are going to the Philippines to enjoy the beautiful unspoiled beaches, the world class scuba diving, and the friendly hospitality of the English speaking Philippine people. Tell them you want to relax and you can't do that in the high rise International Hotel environment like Cancun or Honolulu. That ought to be enough BS to hold 'them. And like all really good BS, it's true!
Then go to PI and fuck your brains out!
Hi all,
Thank you for your concerns and suggestions. I can always rely on you guys when it come to matter like this.
I particularly like Gangles' idea. Hash House Harriers. What a trerrific reason as I am an avid runner! I can't possibly PM you Gangles as I am not a senior member. Any other way we can communicate?
I will post an FR once I finished my trip. Full story from getting the license from the wife and the conclusion of the trip. Heheh.
Baj
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Well done! Two nights drinking in or near Del Pilar and it appears that you didn't once step foot into LA Cafe main. 10 out of 10 for originality or perversity. Can't quite decide which:).[/QUOTE]
LA cafe is a bit like the cereal aisle at Kroger for me. Too many selections - I would just stand there like a moron trying to figure out what I really want.
Besides, the music is hardly my taste, and I feel very old in there - or at least I did last year. Nothing against the place, just prefered the others!
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[QUOTE=Bajuaku]I particularly like Gangles' idea. Hash House Harriers. What a trerrific reason as I am an avid runner![/QUOTE]
Sign up to do some charity work. I had and uncle went to Indonesia and dug wells (I don't know why the locals can't dig their own wells).
[QUOTE=Warbucks]You feel old in LA Cafe......? What are you two hundred years old :confused:[/QUOTE]
Yeah, not far off! It is more the overwhelming selection though!
[QUOTE=Smokers Rule]So telling my friends I am going to Manila to see the sites will not raise eyebrows? Great! :)[/QUOTE]
Forget the Manila Bay sunset or the walls of Intramuros. This to my eyes is the very best sight in Manila. Always raises my eyebrows (and other things). Any one care to demur?
The clam could lose its beard though.
[QUOTE=Teacup]Yeah, not far off! It is more the overwhelming selection though![/QUOTE]
I thought that was half the appeal. So you are the geriatric old bastard that I see shuffling his zimmer around Ermita!
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt] So you are the geriatric old bastard that I see shuffling his zimmer around Ermita![/QUOTE]
Shuffling? I DREAM of shuffling. I go around in a chair and have to hire three women at once - One to fuck and two to lift me on and off!
[QUOTE=Bajuaku]Now, I need opinions on the following from seasoned mongers:
1. Should I stay put in AC and enjoy the delicacies there? Or should I head to Manila and enjoy my stay with previous BF? She seemed to enjoy me very much and we still talk over the phone every fortnight.
2. What would be a valid reason for me to go there? My nature of work does not require to travel internationally and I do not want the wife to smell something fishy!
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Not sure where you hail from, or your exact circumstances, but I'll give you a somewhat different reply, on assumption you are a westerner and are traveling halfway around the world to pursue this.
You've heard all the good excuses for going to the PI, but unless you make these excuses real, nobody with common sense is going to buy it. If you say you want to go scuba diving, you need to take classes, and make a number of dive outings in your local area. Make diving a real part of your life. The same goes with the other excuses - you have to make them real, so that even to yourself they are real, or they won't be real to anyone.
Most people know, or figure out fast enough, that men don't travel alone to the PI just to take in some sights. Now maybe your spouse doesn't want to know the truth and is grateful that you throw her the bone of a lie. In a best case scenario she accepts the lie, and reinforces it to friends and relatives, because she herself wants to keep up appearances and not rock the boat. If you are so lucky to have such a wife, I envy you.
More likely though, you have to prepare for the inevitable confrontation when those around you challenge your excuses. If indeed you've fallen in love with the Filipina GFE, you need to begin thinking seriously about how this could potentially turn your life upside down.
My money says you are not going to successfully get away with a charade. Your two worlds will collide, sooner rather than later. Maybe that is good, maybe bad. Anyway, I just thought the discussion was a tad bit deluded ...
Hash House Harriers really? They have a chapter in literally every city of Asia. The poor guy still needs a tale for why he wants to travel halfway around the world just to go on a fun run.
Simply put, none of this BS will fly with anyone with an ounce of common sense. Don't kid yourself.
Houziwang great reply to Bajuaku interesting to see if the advice will be listen to. Been going to Phil over 10 years and see this frequently. Guys with wife or girl friend meet Phil girl find love get caught or bring home a std then blame the Phils girls. They make the choice and then try to past the blame. No talking to them but lets see what happens.
[QUOTE=Teacup]Shuffling? I DREAM of shuffling. I go around in a chair and have to hire three women at once - One to fuck and two to lift me on and off![/QUOTE]
Hahaha - in view of your advanced age and your handle, did you know that you can now get Viagra in powder form to put in your tea. Perfect for you! It won't enhance your sex life but it does stop your biscuits from going soft.
I'll be in Manila for about 1 1/2 days and I have a very early flight out in the morning. I need some recommendations for hotels that are close to the nightlife/action but not to far from the airport.
Thanks for your help.
[quote=cunning stunt]
hahaha - in view of your advanced age and your handle, did you know that you can now get viagra in powder form to put in your tea. perfect for you! it won't enhance your sex life but it does stop your biscuits from going soft.
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also keeps you hard enough to stop peeing on your feet when you go to the john.
slim
[QUOTE=Skip Kost] The little vendor stalls in the middle area between Padre Faura and Adriatico wings are gone, as CS notes, and that's sort of disappointing. Some of the women in these stalls always seemed to me to be on the sell themselves.[/QUOTE]
You will be pleased to note that the come hither young female vendors and their stalls have just been shunted off to a nearby designated area called the Festival Circle, although circle is a bit of a misnomer as it is more a dusty corner!
Considering that it is so close to Xmas, there seemed to be very few FLs around in Robinsons Mall. Maybe the paramilitary style mall security force is being extra vigilant this holiday season.
Lots of new FLs in LAC though, trying to make some extra cash for Xmas. I met this tall, willowy 20 year old 'student', who had a smoking hot body and a good attitude. Her CP No was immediately taken for future use. She told me that, at her college, she had several friends who were keen to meet foreigners to make some extra cash. Hmmm..very interesting.
[QUOTE=Darmstadter]I'll be in Manila for about 1 1/2 days and I have a very early flight out in the morning. I need some recommendations for hotels that are close to the nightlife/action but not to far from the airport.
Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]
If you have the money, stay at Heritage Hotel across from EDSA Entertainment Complex. Hotel is expensive, but near airport and can walk to EDSA. Taxi to LA cafe is less than 100pesos. Taxi to Airport One is cheap also. If you want cheaper hotel, Palm Plaza or one of the sister hotels is within walking distance to LA cafe and Robinson's Mall. If you are leaving before 8am, no traffic.
And for the 7th and last time this year will be arriving in Manila very soon. Flights getting very full now as all the balikbayans head home for the hols.
But got a seat, and schedule all arranged.
Thursday will be a regular. 30 years old no kids, only this time she has a schoolgirl outfit to show me she says. She also likes back door action. Great gal. Gets tearful if I give her a CD and toblerone. A very nice overnight companion.
Friday will be working, but will see an ex Tickles lady. Very funny lady, 22 and has one kid. Shes agreed to go to a motel with me as long as its only manual or oral. In return for some trashy and cheap bikinis I got for her. And the obligatory toblerone.
Will be in Burgos Friday night so if you see a guy in the naughty boy corner at Wowowow it might be me.
Saturday, Ms Pampanga 24 will be appearing. Haven't seen her since Typhoon Ondong flooded her house and workplace and shes been in a world of hard times since then. 3 hours on a bus to meet me, will result in her being screwed, videoed, probably spanked and maybe covered in chocolate sauce. She will of course bring the nurses uniform. She will in turn get books (likes to read) and some cash and moree tobler bloody rone.
She will also no doubt get naked in car, as she has done in past on the way to Sogo. She just likes to grin and bare. So if you see a toyota camry with naked gal in it. Might also be me. Will be in Burgos sat night too.
Sunday am. Have two or three possibles, depends who first answers the sms I send. The last trip of 2009. Looking forward to a whole new year of adventures!
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There is also a new hotel right there at the new terminal of the airport. I haven't stayed there, but I think it was mentioned a while back in the Manila Hotels thread.
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[QUOTE=Darmstadter]I'll be in Manila for about 1 1/2 days and I have a very early flight out in the morning. I need some recommendations for hotels that are close to the nightlife/action but not to far from the airport.
Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]
Gets tearful if I give her a CD and toblerone. A very nice overnight companion.
And the obligatory toblerone.
Will be in Burgos Friday night so if you see a guy in the naughty boy corner at Wowowow it might be me.
and some cash and moree tobler bloody rone.
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FF
My chocolate gift is Cadburys..large slabs purchased at Duty Free. Always a winner with the girls....Wil mis you this time but am sure we will catch up 2010
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]FF
My chocolate gift is Cadburys. Large slabs purchased at Duty Free. Always a winner with the girls. Wil mis you this time but am sure we will catch up 2010[/QUOTE]I just saw all your pics in the photo session. And for some related reason the Beach Boys song " I get around " came into my head.
I think they wrote it with you in mind LOL.
Hope we can meet up in 2010. Lots of war stories to share. We can cover those in 10 minutes then get to sharing our various female companions. LOL
Coppacabanna or Heritage is close, with EDSA complex right across the street.
[QUOTE=Darmstadter]I'll be in Manila for about 1 1/2 days and I have a very early flight out in the morning. I need some recommendations for hotels that are close to the nightlife/action but not to far from the airport.
Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]
Anyone have the e mail address of the Southern Cross Hotel in Ermita. Not the fanciest place, but has a great location and a good bar/resteraunt.
Seems like its original web site is abandoned.
Thanks
Can anyone let me know what is the best area in Manila to spend a day or two. I will be in the Philippines in April '10 and would like to spend couple of days before continuing on to Angeles. Last time I was in Manila in '07 I spend some time in I think the area was called Malate or something like that. At the time I didn't know about this forum and I had no info on Manila at all. A cab driver took me to I think the LA Cafe where I hooked up with a FL and that is about all I saw from manila before going to Angeles with the fly the bus.
I see that Makati is one of the areas that sees a lot of action, Ermita (is this the area around the La Cafe?) seems to be another. Which is better? Is there anything in Manila like Angeles where you have wall to wall clubs? Can anyone suggest a good hotel that is GF friendly?
Also beside fly the bus is there any other way to get to angeles?
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]I just saw all your pics in the photo session. And for some related reason the Beach Boys song " I get around " came into my head.
I think they wrote it with you in mind LOL.
Hope we can meet up in 2010. Lots of war stories to share. We can cover those in 10 minutes then get to sharing our various female companions. LOL[/QUOTE]
:D
Happy Xmas and New Year FF.
Ten minutes....well we can save time and share while sharing the female companions...we men are not suppsoed to be good at multi tasking but I sure try my best when pussy is involved.
Late FR (as been travelling, working and doing things I least enjoy most for a few weeks!) but one that still amuses me.
En route to the airport (NAIA Terminal 2 Centennial) the taxi driver and I found the main route blocked due to the traffic (what a surprise – this is Manila!) so he took a different route and then asked if he could stop for petrol. Well had no choice as without it we would go nowhere. As it was I always leave plenty of time in the Philippines to check in (after all, it so well organized) and so he stopped
Now at the petrol station were some cuties in blue and black mini skirts selling Ami Pur kits for cars – basically sweet smelling perfume for cars. Now my taxi (and the driver) could have done with that and the girls were cute. So I popped out and went into the shop (Shell garage if I remember near the Skyway?) and then asked the girls about the product.
My good mate Tansak TV once told me he got a girl’s number based on buying more of the same product at the airport so I thought give it a go. Now this was not perfume and far less expensive but I bought 2 as long as I got her number..which I did.
Then when I returned to Manila a few days later I called her and we had some very nice fun, and it all smelt wonderful….:) Lovely 22 year old shaved pussy. Petite, slim, just my style and flavor. No greek but I promised a return when am there in early 2010.
As for the taxi driver, he seemed pleased with his pasalubongs and the sales girl was happy with hers (well she was a few days later)
No pictures, she is not a WG and I had to fit her in between one lady’s departure and another ones arrival but this time the plans worked well…
So it does pay to ask…if you don’t ask you don’t get my parents always said….can imagine my father’s face when he sees his words put into action with a cute Filipina and car perfume…he would have approved :D
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]My good mate Tansak TV once told me he got a girl’s number based on buying more of the same product at the airport so I thought give it a go. Now this was not perfume and far less expensive but I bought 2 as long as I got her number..which I did.
Then when I returned to Manila a few days later I called her and we had some very nice fun, and it all smelt wonderful….:) Lovely 22 year old shaved pussy. Petite, slim, just my style and flavor. No greek but I promised a return when am there in early 2010.
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You bastard !!!!!!!! That was my trade secret :D I nailed the perfume girl, three bottles of perfume (for girls in Thailand) and a free sex night in Manila... Was buying the damn shit anyways. Plus I nailed her friend for free also.
By chance, the gf and I got a really good taxi to take us from Manila to Batangas. Good driver, name of Philip, taxi is almost new, very quiet, everything works well. Philip is intelligent and courteous, a rarity among taxi drivers.
I said to him I wil post his name, provided his prices ar ereasonable.
He will take you from Manila to Angeles for 2700 peasos, which is the going rate ex Angeles.
And he prepositions, so if you need a taxi at 6.15 at your hotel to take you a fair distance, he will be there on time. Exactly.
But I suggest you only use him for longer trips, and call at least a day beforehand.
Name Philip
phone 09185075871.
G
Nice to have something good said about a Manila taxi driver, Gangles.
Interested in your point about the newness of the vehicle. An important thing to remember about Manila Taxis is that wherever possible you should avoid the old, beat-up taxis. I’ve had it from the horse’s mouth that these are often unlicensed and are absolutely guaranteed to have fast meters. Go for the newer taxis wherever possible. Apart from being more comfortable, safer and with more professional drivers, they are damn sight cheaper.
And the drivers are much more likely to use the meter.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]You bastard !!!!!!!! That was my trade secret :D I nailed the perfume girl, three bottles of perfume (for girls in Thailand) and a free sex night in Manila... Was buying the damn shit anyways. Plus I nailed her friend for free also.[/QUOTE]
LOL
You are always a greedy boy Tansak!!! And you did buy 3 ...i only got 2...but next time will ask as her fellow workers were cute....
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Nice to have something good said about a Manila taxi driver, Gangles.
Interested in your point about the newness of the vehicle. An important thing to remember about Manila Taxis is that wherever possible you should avoid the old, beat-up taxis. I’ve had it from the horse’s mouth that these are often unlicensed and are absolutely guaranteed to have fast meters. Go for the newer taxis wherever possible. Apart from being more comfortable, safer and with more professional drivers, they are damn sight cheaper.
And the drivers are much more likely to use the meter.[/QUOTE]Yesterday I took a newer taxi to the Casino behind NAIA Terminal 1 and the meter wasn't even close to being right. I jokingly asked the driver what was wrong with his meter, as I have made the same trip 20 times and he told me that the car got flooded back in September....whatever.
Leaving the casino it is harder to get a taxi, so i had to take a old old taxi back to Makati. The driver said no meter, flat rate of 200P. The normal rate is 135 to 140P. Not having much choice I said okay. Living here I know where I am riding around Manila and the driver went towards Manila and not Makati. I asked him where he was going and he told me too much traffic going to Makati and he would go through Manila. He went down past the US Embassy and turned down an alley and stayed in alleys and sure as shit, we made it to Makati in 30 minutes with no traffic jams :)
Robb
Arrived Thursday, drove to Market Market to meet Ms S and as sometimes happens, I'm walking along and I get a smiling sunny girl smiling at me. I smile back. We chit chat for a while but I'm restricted, as Ms S is somewhere around. But it sure makes you feel young and handsome when a 20 something is grinning at you like you really are handsome LOL.
Ms S was lovely. 30 years old. Likes it front and back and she stayed the night. She got chocolates and old cds. She also fell in love with a new little g spot vibrator I took with me.
Did some work next morning then in afternoon I met Ms C. 24 with a kid. We went to Eurotel in Pasay road. She had said before we would just fool around which we did. Girl was a great teaser but eventually got a blow from her. Dropped her off and she was happy with chocolates.
Went out to Burgos and started getting strange texts from an unknown number. First one said "was I in Market Market on Thursday (Yes) then said was I with a girl in Cinema square on Friday (Yes). Asked who it was and she said we had met before and had had fun in my car (sounds like me!)
She said I used to know her, she was now married and living in Serendra near Market Market and had seen me. And her husband was away. Hmm. Very strange.
Anyways went to Burgos and had fun. Home at 2am.
Next day, whilst having breakfast sent out some Hi sms to a few DIA ladies to see who was around. Then headed off to bus terminal to meet Ms K. A sweet lady who I had known for past 18 months. She lost everything in the typoon, but had come from Pampanga to meet me. I guess I'm her knight in shining armour. She was hot as ever. I took about an hour of vids of her doing all sorts, inlcuding the new vibrator.
After dropping her off at bus station after 4 hours of hot times, the "strange texter" and I met. I vaguely remembered her, but san mig will kill brain cells fast. Anyways she told me that we had met 6 years back, for a few Sogo sessions. Eventually yes I remembered who she was. She said she'd coincidentally seen me twice earlier, and still had my number on her old sim. Sounded strange so I made up some bs about where I was staying and when I was leaving and left. She then sends me sms about how I was the second guy she'd ever had sex with with and she still remembered me and could I go to ger condo as her hubby away. No thanks.
Anyways Ms L had replied that she would be happy to meet me. 30, great legs, petite and slim with a hot smile. Just my type. So we met near Burgos, had a few beers. Well she had Pina coladas!. And after two of them she becomes very chatty. Tells me about the guys shes chatting with. They all sounded like losers LOL. Tells me shes only had 4 guys in her life. Says most guys prefer to shoot than dribble, as in foreplay. Ok I'm thinking, I shall remember that!
After another glass of wine shes clearly smiling a lot. So we go to car, go to my place where upon undressing her theres a very nice body there. And so I go " dribbling. " must have licked her for an hour or more. She was lovin it. Its so good to have a woman writhing at the edge of your tongue.
In the morning she was a little shy. But she told me because shes often alone she is very friendly with her finger. And showed me how she brings herself to come. I introduced her to Mr G Spot vibrator. And she also falls in love with it. And no honey, you can't keep it!
Dropped her off, and then off to breakfast. I was suposed to see Ms the (a repeat from a previous trip). I wanted to see Ms S. But thought I should try a new DIA one who had started texting me. Ms E/. Recently back from Quatar, says has never met a foreigner. Met, and then after coffee she agrees to come back to my place. But I can tell shes shy. But she did promise all on the second date. We will see if there is one. We had some sweet kisses, a litle fondling but thats it.
Went home and spent an hour cleaning up girls hair from the floor, bed, bathroom everywhere. Airport and back home. Shagged out from 72 hours in Manila.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan] Shagged out from 72 hours in Manila.
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LOL - I hope I have as much energy when I'm your age ..:D. You must gobble v/c like smarties.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]LOL - I hope I have as much energy when I'm your age ..:D. You must gobble v/c like smarties.[/QUOTE]
Vit V too costly. Kamaga tabs and Kamagra jell are the aid of choice!
i thought i had posted a question a few months back about medical clinics for std checkups in the ermita area, but couldn't find it when i searched just now. somebody told me about a clinic in robinson's place mall; if it's there, the information booth near the pedro gil entrance doesn't know about it. to make a long story short, i had reason to get little lady checked out. i found a clinic by the name of calpe on mabini between romero-salas and padre faura. they charged 1200 pesos for an exam and lab analyses for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] and a smear. then, having found her positive for big g, insisted it could only be cured with an injection that they'd gladly do for 8,000 pesos. i got into a heated discussion with the woman doctor (or at least alleged that she was) and finally got her to write out prescriptions for pills and the injection. little lady went to another physician elsewhere in metro manila and got the exam and lab work for 600 pesos, and the injection was available for 1200 pesos. one difference was that skip, a westerner, was in evidence at calpe but not at the second physician. moral of this story: do not go to the calpe medical clinic on mabini!! i can't say i was very turned on watching employees trooping in and out of the "laboratory" while smoking and munching on bags of snacks, either.
and here's a good place to do business: the haircut salon in robinson's place mall called ricky reyes'. i'd just finished eating at shakeys and noticed it right next door as i was leaving. i had stopped there a year ago and got a very good haircut, and i was starting to look kinda shaggy. so i got another excellent haircut; really, much better than i had gotten in any salon in the states in recent years. haircut, shampoo, blow dry, mustache and eyebrows trimmed, all for 200 pesos. i highly recommend the place. most of the employees are bakalas, but i'm old and ugly so none of them made a pass at me. if you go, just set aside your homophobia and treat yourself to a good, inexpensive haircut.
A quick Google search doesn't turn up any explanation about Kamaga. We hopes you can elaborate.
I occasionally use Tadafil (Cialis) shipped from India to keep up with my little multi-orgasmic sweetie - not a filipina so I will not elaborate.
My experience is that the so-called "Cialis" sold in Philippines is actually stronger than the stuff I get mail order.
I don't remember the going rate for that stuff in PI? Can anyone update that info?
SIDENOTE:
CS, I will expect some sort of "soft wet noodle joke"....and who knows, if I'm lucky Warbucks will make one of his "old" comments, allowing some of us to make colorful comments about his derrière and what shade of color it might be. :-)
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Vit V too costly. Kamaga tabs and Kamagra jell are the aid of choice![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]A quick Google search doesn't turn up any explanation about Kamaga. We hopes you can elaborate. [/QUOTE]
Kamagra... no hits on google.. you're shitting me... it's generic viagra and all over the internet, 5,760,000 hits for me....
I haven't had a haircut in over ten years -- other than the self administered type. Nevertheless, did the gay barbers give you any tips on women? Those kind of "guys" usually have lots of women friends. The homophobes can avoid them if they want...it's their loss.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost]Haircut, shampoo, blow dry, mustache and eyebrows trimmed, all for 200 pesos. I highly recommend the place. Most of the employees are Bakalas, but I'm old and ugly so none of them made a pass at me. If you go, just set aside your homophobia and treat yourself to a good, inexpensive haircut.[/QUOTE]
Thanks KTV. I searched for Kamaga - so maybe there was a misspelling. When I read Kamaga I thought it was a Philippine local product.
I seem to remember someone on these threads recommending a Chinese herbal concoction, sold in PI, that worked for him. That is what I was hoping to hear about.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Vit V too costly. Kamaga tabs and Kamagra jell are the aid of choice![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]Thanks KTV. I searched for Kamaga - so maybe there was a misspelling. If you've used the stuff, please elaborate.[/QUOTE]
Sometimes I deal in the industry of pharmaceuticals :D Now let's hear the jokes comparing me to WB's... there are thousands of posts about it all over thai boards, there are separate threads on ISG just for it, and you are welcome to PM me or other members about V/C and generics.
[QUOTE=X Man]A quick Google search doesn't turn up any explanation about Kamaga. We hopes you can elaborate.
I occasionally use Tadafil (Cialis) shipped from India to keep up with my little multi-orgasmic sweetie - not a filipina so I will not elaborate.
My experience is that the so-called "Cialis" sold in Philippines is actually stronger than the stuff I get mail order.
I don't remember the going rate for that stuff in PI? Can anyone update that info?
SIDENOTE:
CS, I will expect some sort of "soft wet noodle joke"....and who knows, if I'm lucky Warbucks will make one of his "old" comments, allowing some of us to make colorful comments about his derrière and what shade of color it might be. :-)[/QUOTE]
With all the pussy that "old wet noodle" is getting, I hope I have the same problem when I grow up! :D
Maybe you should try taking some of your tadafil to make sure that wet noodle doesn't slip the next time you use it for typing! hahaha :)
Somebody had to do it! :P
HW
In Makati, the street vendors sell it for php 500 for a box of 4 but they'll take php 250 and they do work well.
[QUOTE=X Man]A quick Google search doesn't turn up any explanation about Kamaga. We hopes you can elaborate.
I occasionally use Tadafil (Cialis) shipped from India to keep up with my little multi-orgasmic sweetie - not a filipina so I will not elaborate.
My experience is that the so-called "Cialis" sold in Philippines is actually stronger than the stuff I get mail order.
I don't remember the going rate for that stuff in PI? Can anyone update that info?
SIDENOTE:
CS, I will expect some sort of "soft wet noodle joke"....and who knows, if I'm lucky Warbucks will make one of his "old" comments, allowing some of us to make colorful comments about his derrière and what shade of color it might be. :-)[/QUOTE]
I might have a few hours to shag, I mean layover at Manila airport with a local past squeeze. That hotel right across is too expensive, but clean. Are there any inexpensive yet clean hotels within a few minutes, or short time hotels?
[QUOTE=Muff Eater]In Makati, the street vendors sell it for php 500 for a box of 4 but they'll take php 250 and they do work well.[/QUOTE]
I buy the same stuff there on P. Burgos. It has worked well for me when I needed it! I had a steady GFE with a vested interest in getting as much of the product for my time with her as possible. :D She helped talk the vendor down to PHP 200 a box. While making the deal, all I had in my hand was a couple of PHP 100 bills. When he agreed to 200 per box, I magically found I had a PHP 1000 bill in my pocket, so I bought 5 boxes. ;) Unfortunately, my steady started on her "mens" the next day :eek:, which really pissed off both of us. She was pissed because she doesn't like fucking in that condition. I was pissed because I couldn't get away from her to find anything else to fuck! :mad:
At least I have plenty left over for my next trip! I would try to use it here in Korea. But this place is just to expensive, and no fun for mongering anymore.
Happy Mongering! :D
HW
[QUOTE=Sopwith]I might have a few hours to shag, I mean layover at Manila airport with a local past squeeze. That hotel right across is too expensive, but clean. Are there any inexpensive yet clean hotels within a few minutes, or short time hotels?[/QUOTE]Do you mean the Manila airport hotel outside the international terminal? I was there in novemeber very convenient gf met me there I paid for room she arrived afternoon they allowed her in I arrived in the evening I think the room was 2500 for both of us I can check my records if you really want to know the price I had to leave the next day for the you S. No worry about being late for departure since I couild walk to the terminal but took taxi luggage and it was hot Any other clean inexpensive hotel close to inter terminal?
[QUOTE=X Man]Thanks KTV. I searched for Kamaga - so maybe there was a misspelling. When I read Kamaga I thought it was a Philippine local product.
I seem to remember someone on these threads recommending a Chinese herbal concoction, sold in PI, that worked for him. That is what I was hoping to hear about.[/QUOTE]Its Kamagra. Indian generic product.
[QUOTE=X Man]I haven't had a haircut in over ten years -- other than the self administered type. Nevertheless, did the gay barbers give you any tips on women? Those kind of "guys" usually have lots of women friends. The homophobes can avoid them if they want...it's their loss.[/QUOTE]
I had company so didn't ask, but I suspect they would have been willing to help. I'd rule out scoring with any freelancers who stroll by while you're inside getting serviced, since the young ladies may assume you're one of "them."
[QUOTE=Bay Area Puma]Do you mean the Manila airport hotel outside the international terminal? I was there in novemeber very convenient gf met me there I paid for room she arrived afternoon they allowed her in I arrived in the evening I think the room was 2500 for both of us I can check my records if you really want to know the price I had to leave the next day for the you S. No worry about being late for departure since I couild walk to the terminal but took taxi luggage and it was hot Any other clean inexpensive hotel close to inter terminal?[/QUOTE]
I paid between 26 and 2700 for a standard room at Manila Airport Hotel. That is not particularly expensive by Metro Manila standards. I just wrote a review in the Manila Hotels thread. Agoda.com has occasionally shown a hotel in Pasay City that they describe as an "airport hotel." It's a different hotel, seems to be within a few blocks of International Airport, and it's cheaper. Why not take one for the team and give us a report?
Not only will I take one for the team, but this time she said she wants me to take pics!
I believe people are correct about the airport hotel. I hate to spend 2600 pesos for 90 minutes.
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder] Unfortunately, my steady started on her "mens" the next day :eek:, which really pissed off both of us. She was pissed because she doesn't like fucking in that condition. I was pissed because I couldn't get away from her to find anything else to fuck! :mad:
Happy Mongering! :D
HW[/QUOTE]
HW, that's why you never tell the girls your exact dates of travel. It gives you an out in case you want to blow the coop and move some place else. I have had many girls escort me to airports thinking I'm leaving only to take a local flight to another area. Make sure you change the sim card in your phone as well.
YM
With guest appearance by monger Extraordinare Chocha Monger
ISG True Manila Stories....Part Three
Unsatisfactory
I wasn't contented and knew she hadn't been fucked properly the (cervix must be touched) but I was like fuck it catch her on the rebound. I had a flight to catch to one of the most dangerous cities in the world where I work. No not Manila as some mongers think...LOL
I had a virtual round table with monger extraordinaire Chocha Monger he reminded me of “Nightrider1” case he told me the dangers of leaving a Filipina half fucked. He warned if I didn’t touch the cervix somebody else was going to do it LOL. He reminded me that some ISG members would have went for all her holes without second a thought.
Planning The Score
After short deliberation I told myself better get this done. I canceled flights and broke off other engagments to finish the "job" LOL. Called her up and explained the plan ....she protested due to time and other engagements, my load ran out. I sent the live in to the store to get me more load LOL. I know bad dude this Warbucks is. All the while she thinks I am pissed because I am not responding to her texts so she saying shit like we can do whatever... and apologizing….LOL
That night had to deal with taxis as the ride was down for the count. We got a nice hotel close to her office. While checking in some Filipino guys come in. They look at her and look and me and words are exchanged between them in Tagalog. When we get to the room I ask what was said she says they said “She is with a Black guy.”
The Bottom Of The Pussy
Before we fucked I put about month worth (of her salary) in her purse. She asked “Are you paying me?” Naw Warbucks just knew he was about take something that is priceless.
It was a passionate night filled with debauchery, food and Coronas as the cervix was touched multiple times. Seeing her laid out spread eagle across the bed properly fucked, motionless and silent was priceless.
“Fucked her real tough now she can’t get enough.”
Quote -Rapper Too Short
Dropped her off at the office (via taxi) then returned home to the domestic bliss that is my subdivision.
I will like to thank Nightrider1 I learned from your mistake.
So I see this part has degenerated into total and useless crap. Great going.
Wizard.
[QUOTE=Wizard561]So I see this part has degenerated into total and useless crap. Great going.
Wizard.[/QUOTE]
Yep! And you just added to it my friend!
YM
[QUOTE=Yella Man]Yep! And you just added to it my friend!
YM[/QUOTE]Yella man did you ever get to saty at the Malberry in CDO and was the trip ok?
I am sure I have not seen a report and if you did sorry I missed it.
Better you checkin to a motel.
Like sogo even 595 peso for 3 hours.
[QUOTE=Sopwith]Not only will I take one for the team, but this time she said she wants me to take pics!
I believe people are correct about the airport hotel. I hate to spend 2600 pesos for 90 minutes.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Spooks]Yella man did you ever get to saty at the Malberry in CDO and was the trip ok?
I am sure I have not seen a report and if you did sorry I missed it.[/QUOTE]
I'm in-bound around middle of January. Still hangin' with the kids in Hawaii. I'll leave a report on the Malberry towards end of January.
YM
[QUOTE=Yella Man]HW, that's why you never tell the girls your exact dates of travel. It gives you an out in case you want to blow the coop and move some place else. I have had many girls escort me to airports thinking I'm leaving only to take a local flight to another area. Make sure you change the sim card in your phone as well.
YM[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the advice YM!
Hopefully, I have learned my lesson with this one. But sometimes the single minded smaller head yells so much louder than the big head, I can't hear myself thinking. By the time I realize what's going on, it's usually to late! :eek:
Funny thing about the SIM cards. I was just thinking to myself today, that I should buy a different SIM for each city I plan to visit. Either that, or just tell all the girls that I plan on fucking many other girls as well as them. I have told that to some of my DIA contacts, and they have said OK to it. A couple even have offered to introduce friends that would like a good romp.
Enjoy the mongering!
Guy
Hello fellows,
What is the scene like in MNL on New Years? Will it be hard or expensive to find company on New Years Eve/New Years Day?
Thanks in advance
[QUOTE=Smokers Rule]Hello fellows,
What is the scene like in MNL on New Years? Will it be hard or expensive to find company on New Years Eve/New Years Day?
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]
New Years in Manila is Bananas. Makati fitted with the gigantic Globle-tron TV and stage with well known native singers and other celebrities performing. Masses of natives walking around to enjoy the show and other festivities.
Fireworks that look and sound like they belong on the battle fields of Afghanistan going off and claiming the limbs of street children that night and days before…..New Years in Manila is definitely something to experience.
It’s never hard to find company in Manila…
How does Warbucks spends his? Before I bought the house it was spent at my favorite 5 Star (no not the Dusit). Now it’s spent at home with the live-in's family.
[QUOTE=Warbucks]How does Warbucks spends his? Before I bought the house it was spent at my favorite 5 Star (no not the Dusit). Now it’s spent at home with the live-in's family.[/QUOTE]
WB, maybe you can help me here...I want to buy a house but I am not married. How did you do it. If needed pm me, but I am serious I want to buy a house, not a condo.
Thanks
Robb
[QUOTE=Robbaf]WB, maybe you can help me here...I want to buy a house but I am not married. How did you do it. If needed pm me, but I am serious I want to buy a house, not a condo.
Thanks,
Robb[/QUOTE]Buying a house is easy, buying the land the house is on is not possible!
Setting up a corporation where you have 5 stockholder and you own a maximum of 40% stock is an answer. The corporation owns the land and the house you can buy whilst at the same time lease the land from the corporation at a peppercorn rent, or just lease both land and house for 25 years renewed again for another 25 years.
Many embassies have a list of accredited Attorneys. Try one of those to set up the corporation and they will also do the conveyancing and set up the renewable lease. When purchasing a foreclosed property from a bank never ever pay more than 65% of the asking price and start at 45%
All the above is what I did over 5 years ago and until now am not married.
Hope it helps
Having lived here for six years or so, and visited for about 20 years prior to that, I know that what Spooks said is possible, and I know several guys who have done this, or some variation of it. The question for me is why? I simply cannot fathom why anyone would invest anything in this place when the fact is, no matter how clever the lawyer or "iron clad" the contracts, everything you have can be taken away quickly by corrupt politicians and/or their relatives. Any investments made by foreigners here are as safe as the strength of their "connections," and those that are strong today may be weaker tomorrow given the ebb and flow of political fortune.
I know I've said this before, but it bears repeating that foreigners (and indeed most Filipinos) have no real legally-protected rights. No matter how clever you think you are, or how strong you think your protection is, it can all disappear overnight. In a country where everything and everyone--including the Supreme Court--is for sale, and where murder is considered a viable political option, this is not a place where any investment will ever be secure.
GE
Well said, GE. Sound words of advice.
Just to add another perspective, I have worked on the land title reform project, and once you know how the land title system here in Phiols works, you would never buy property here either.
G
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Having lived here for six years or so, and visited for about 20 years prior to that, I know that what Spooks said is possible, and I know several guys who have done this, or some variation of it. The question for me is why? I simply cannot fathom why anyone would invest anything in this place when the fact is, no matter how clever the lawyer or "iron clad" the contracts, everything you have can be taken away quickly by corrupt politicians and/or their relatives. Any investments made by foreigners here are as safe as the strength of their "connections," and those that are strong today may be weaker tomorrow given the ebb and flow of political fortune.
I know I've said this before, but it bears repeating that foreigners (and indeed most Filipinos) have no real legally-protected rights. No matter how clever you think you are, or how strong you think your protection is, it can all disappear overnight. In a country where everything and everyone--including the Supreme Court--is for sale, and where murder is considered a viable political option, this is not a place where any investment will ever be secure.
GE[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Warbucks]
Fireworks that look and sound like they belong on the battle fields of Afghanistan going off and claiming the limbs of street children that night and days before…..New Years in Manila is definitely something to experience.
[/QUOTE]
Those fireworks really are the dog's bollocks. Pinoy children don't seem to mind losing an eye, a few fingers or a hand in the name of good fun during the Christmas season. Each year numerous street urchins have body parts blown off and errant RPG grade rockets detonate and set their hovels on fire but the celebrations go on.
Things can go wrong when foreigners decide to join in the fun of setting off Third World fireworks. One guy lit a rocket and the bamboo stabilizer pole broke off in his hand. He decided to throw the rocket down the street before the propellant ignited. He sent it down range like a football only to have the infernal contraption ignite in mid flight and come flying back at him. It struck his face and detonated. He was so badly burnt and disfigured that he was medically evacuated to the States for reconstructive surgery. Stay away from local fireworks. :D
[QUOTE=Gangles]Well said, GE. Sound words of advice.
Just to add another perspective, I have worked on the land title reform project, and once you know how the land title system here in Phiols works, you would never buy property here either.
G[/QUOTE]With regards to land ownership you are right it is very hard to maintain any interests in face of corruption. Leases have time and time again been proven to be very hard to interfere with, especially with multiple cross leases. Cross leasing makes ownership such a legal minefield there is little evidence of any successful interference.
[QUOTE=Warbucks]New Years in Manila is Bananas.
It’s never hard to find company in Manila…
[/QUOTE]
For the one New Years that I spent in Manila (2006-2007) it was difficult to find female company. I had rented a room at one of the monger hotels in Ermita and went to LA Cafe about 8 pm. There were many more men than women there, and by 11:30 I had concluded I would be spending the night alone. About 15 minutes later a reasonably attractive woman walked up to my table, introduced herself as Lisa and asked me if I'd buy her a rum and coke. I did, exchanged a kiss with her as the fireworks in the street went crazy at midnight, and got her to my hotel room about 30 minutes later. She seemed very appreciative when I got her off quite quickly DATY and was okay for one night time shot of coffee for me, but proved very cool in the morning, although on my subsequent visits to LA she'd hunt me down and try to claim me. About the third time she did this I had already selected another partner for the night, but her attempt to interject herself into my evening ended quickly as she fell to the floor in a drunken swoon. I came to the realization that the reason she'd been available New Years Eve was because other men had picked up on her request for a drink as a sign of her alcoholism.
Warbucks may be right that there are places in Manila on New Years Eve where company is readily available, but I think LA Cafe is not one of them. The explanation I heard from one mongering veteran is that many of the freelancers return to the provinces for Christmas and New Years because of family obligations, and the girls that are totally without family commitment of this sort have either burned out their families or burned themselves out. I suspect Lisa was such a person.
If you know you will be in Manila for the holidays, it might be wise to make arrangements in advance for an extended hookup that makes it worth the while of some freelancer or internet date to stick it out with you.
Where is the Sogo Motel near the Manila airport?
[QUOTE=Skip Kost]For the one New Years that I spent in Manila (2006-2007) it was difficult to find female company.[/QUOTE]Perhaps try this: Cherry Blossoms and Filipina Heart have a "see who's online now" feature, maybe DIA does too? Fire it up maybe around noon to afternoon, and see who's on in Manila. Yahoo Members used to be good for this, but they ruined it.
[QUOTE=Sopwith]Where is the Sogo Motel near the Manila airport?[/QUOTE]
Depends on your definition of near. The nearest ones are in Pasay.
Either Pasay, EDSA Harrison just 2 minutes walk from EDSA or Pasay Rotonda 7 minutes walk from EDSA
[url]http://www.hotelsogo.com/[/url]
[quote=skip kost]
warbucks may be right that there are places in manila on new years eve where company is readily available, but i think la cafe is not one of them. [/quote]
you are probably right about la café not being the best place to see in the new year, skip. however sometimes it is still possible to meet a gem in there as i did on the afternoon of new year eve a couple of years back. her name was ashley, a 21 year old ‘student’ and we clicked immediately and had a good laugh and a few drinks together followed by a steamy hot session in sogo. i got her cp no, intending to meet her again (she said that she was a very infrequent visitor to lac) and promptly lost it …durrr! it was several months later that i came across her again in lac and in the intervening time she had trimmed off some weight and was much hotter. this time i managed to keep hold of her no and she became a regular afternoon sparring partner for a couple of months. she might not have been the prettiest girl that i have pulled out of la café, but she surely was one of the most playful and fun to hang with. and those bj lips that she sure knew how to use according to their design plan.:d. i think that she eventually went off abroad to work. had loads of photos of her but lost them all in a hard disc crash:(.
here’s one from that first hogmanay afternoon romp. wonder if anyone else remembers her and had the pleasure of her juicy young bod?
so you could try lac in the afternoon. maybe the odd amateur might be found in there, trying to scrape together a few bucks to enjoy the evening celebrations.
[quote=cunning stunt]so you could try lac in the afternoon. maybe the odd amateur might be found in there, trying to scrape together a few bucks to enjoy the evening celebrations.[/quote]the worst part about ny anywhere in manila if you haven't got your own transport is trying to find a cab after midnight. there are always girls around on ny eve, but as stated earlier, the fireworks used are really big and dangerous so you should be inside from 10 pm until 1 am. be very careful about being on top of condos viewing the mayhem below. people fire guns randomly in the air and you just might be in the line of fire without anybody knowing it. a friend's mother was hit by a stray bullet just a few years ago in this way.
just lie low but have a good time. it's very possible.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt] Just lie low but have a good time. It's very possible.[/QUOTE]
Nah, don’t hide but get out there and experience New Year Philippine style. It’s unique and the nearest thing to being in a war zone that most will ever experience! Being a Brit it reminds me more of a psychotic Guy Fawkes Night as it used to be many years ago. I never buy fireworks as they are all either locally made or imported from China and are cheap and lethal. But I’ll probably do what I did last year and sit in the front garden with a tumbler full of single malt and watch the neighbors try to blow each other to hell and back. It’s highly entertaining.
What pisses me off is the way the firework party starts about 2 days before Xmas and carries on unabated every night until about 3 January. For a poor country, they sure do burn away an awful lot of money on these munitions.
The best place to see a controlled New Year Fireworks Display is in Hong Kong. Now that is spectacular.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Nah, don’t hide but get out there and experience New Year Philippine style. It’s unique and the nearest thing to being in a war zone that most will ever experience! Being a Brit it reminds me more of a psychotic Guy Fawkes Night as it used to be many years ago.
What pisses me off is the way the firework party starts about 2 days before Xmas and carries on unabated every night until about 3 January. For a poor country, they sure do burn away an awful lot of money on these munitions.[/QUOTE]
One of the loudest local forms of fireworks is supposedly illegal in most of the cities of metro Manila. Has a name I can't remember. They cut a long piece of PVC pipe to which they somehow inject butane lighter fuel into the bottom and put in some sort of a fuse. Then they drop a potato down the chute, set it off, and fire the potato up into the air at a 45 degree angle or thereabouts. If stray bullets falling to earth pose a danger, just imagine a potato shot from one of these. It makes a horrendous noise, depending how much fuel they put in it, and it certainly raises CS's point about poor people burning up their money -- literally. It's a sort of a homemade grenade launcher.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost]One of the loudest local forms of fireworks is supposedly illegal in most of the cities of metro Manila. Has a name I can't remember. They cut a long piece of PVC pipe to which they somehow inject butane lighter fuel into the bottom and put in some sort of a fuse. Then they drop a potato down the chute, set it off, and fire the potato up into the air at a 45 degree angle or thereabouts. If stray bullets falling to earth pose a danger, just imagine a potato shot from one of these. It makes a horrendous noise, depending how much fuel they put in it, and it certainly raises CS's point about poor people burning up their money -- literally. It's a sort of a homemade grenade launcher.[/QUOTE]What you are mentioning is a potato cannon (or gun). Pretty easy to build and quite cheap. It does have some omph though.
Here is a simple manual how to build one :
[url]http://www.instructables.com/id/The-Original-Potato-Cannon/[/url]
Yes, I was young once (long time ago though.
[QUOTE=German Expat]What you are mentioning is a potato cannon (or gun). [/QUOTE]
Whatever it is called, it looks lethal. Accidentally get in the way of that thing when it went off and you would sure know about it.
All the temporary firework sellers have set up there tents by the side of the main road outside my subdivision. Was passing yesterday and noted that most of the vendors had fags on the go. Guess that is only to be expected same as the way most jeepney drivers immediately light up whilst waiting for gas:(.
[QUOTE=German Expat]What you are mentioning is a potato cannon (or gun). Pretty easy to build and quite cheap. It does have some omph though.
Here is a simple manual how to build one :
[url]http://www.instructables.com/id/The-Original-Potato-Cannon/[/url]
Yes, I was young once (long time ago though.[/QUOTE]
OMG! I wouldn't have guessed there were instructions available. So did some German with an excess supply of Kartoffeln and too much time on his hands invent that? I assume the guy who put the instructions on the web was just some Ami Arschloch following what he'd learned elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Was passing yesterday and noted that most of the vendors had fags on the go. Guess that is only to be expected same as the way most jeepney drivers immediately light up whilst waiting for gas:(.[/QUOTE]
Of course, the fag offers the basis for ignition for each subsequent piece of fireworks. I usually end up burning my fingers when I use matches for igniting them. I'm close to the Alabama border, so your post reminds me to make a run for the projectile type and big ones I can't get around home. Problem is, there's a little AMP just another 45 minutes past the border. Should I or shouldn't I? What a difference the distance and price makes in the states as compared to the Phils.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost]OMG! I wouldn't have guessed there were instructions available. So did some German with an excess supply of Kartoffeln and too much time on his hands invent that? I assume the guy who put the instructions on the web was just some Ami Arschloch following what he'd learned elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Don't know whether it was invented by Germans or not. Wouldn't be surprised though, plenty of potatoes around in our country. Did see and shoot it first time with a Swiss friend.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost]OMG! I wouldn't have guessed there were instructions available. So did some German with an excess supply of Kartoffeln and too much time on his hands invent that? I assume the guy who put the instructions on the web was just some Ami Arschloch following what he'd learned elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
My brothers and I used to make those when I was a kid. But we used a combination of soda cans (the old heavy metal kind (telling my age)), duct tape, Zippo type lighter fluid, and tennis balls (instead of potatoes). The tennis balls were good for repeat firing, and kept us from getting in trouble for using mom's potatoes! :D We didn't need a manual to come up with this. Of course, we are half German on our mom's side! ;)
We also found that you could cut the white tips off of the old wood matches that could be lit off of anything. Place a nut about half-way onto a bolt, put the match tip inside the center of the nut, and screw in another bolt. Drop this contraption so that either bolt head hits a hard surface, and you've got a homemade fire cracker (and a bunch of ruined matches! :D )
Glückliches neues Jahr!
HW
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder]My brothers and I used to make those when I was a kid. But we used a combination of soda cans (the old heavy metal kind (telling my age)), duct tape, Zippo type lighter fluid, and tennis balls (instead of potatoes). The tennis balls were good for repeat firing, and kept us from getting in trouble for using mom's potatoes! :D We didn't need a manual to come up with this. Of course, we are half German on our mom's side! ;)
We also found that you could cut the white tips off of the old wood matches that could be lit off of anything. Place a nut about half-way onto a bolt, put the match tip inside the center of the nut, and screw in another bolt. Drop this contraption so that either bolt head hits a hard surface, and you've got a homemade fire cracker (and a bunch of ruined matches! :D )
Glückliches neues Jahr!
HW[/QUOTE]Pretty cool.
Thick PVC pipe is what we use to make those potato guns here.
Somebody posted recently about WiFi in Robinson's Place Mall. On a recent trip I saw a guy using a laptop in Burger King, but couldn't tell if he was accessing the internet or just clinking away on the keyboard. Of course Starbucks pretty much everywhere will connect you to their WiFi for about 100 pesos per hour -- when it's working. But is there WiFi signal throughout the mall? Is it free or one credit card payment? Any information about details and reach of the signal are appreciated. Also, restaurants with wall plugs accessible to tables for those of us who only get an hour or so on a charged battery?
Thanks, Skip
Boys. I used Kamagra. And got it from my little brother who is a doc. He recommended. I only take a quarter of the pill. I took half (thinking it will be bigger, harder). That thing did not come down all night long. I slept with a fucking hard on.
My whole groin area ached next morning.
So be careful. That Kamagra is actually strong.
[QUOTE=X Man]A quick Google search doesn't turn up any explanation about Kamaga. We hopes you can elaborate.
I occasionally use Tadafil (Cialis) shipped from India to keep up with my little multi-orgasmic sweetie - not a filipina so I will not elaborate.
My experience is that the so-called "Cialis" sold in Philippines is actually stronger than the stuff I get mail order.
I don't remember the going rate for that stuff in PI? Can anyone update that info?
SIDENOTE:
CS, I will expect some sort of "soft wet noodle joke"....and who knows, if I'm lucky Warbucks will make one of his "old" comments, allowing some of us to make colorful comments about his derrière and what shade of color it might be. :-)[/QUOTE]
Its free (well, it was about 3 months ago when I was there), but the connection varies and in some parts of the mall you wont be able to connect.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost]Somebody posted recently about WiFi in Robinson's Place Mall. On a recent trip I saw a guy using a laptop in Burger King, but couldn't tell if he was accessing the internet or just clinking away on the keyboard. Of course Starbucks pretty much everywhere will connect you to their WiFi for about 100 pesos per hour. When it's working. But is there WiFi signal throughout the mall? Is it free or one credit card payment? Any information about details and reach of the signal are appreciated. Also, restaurants with wall plugs accessible to tables for those of us who only get an hour or so on a charged battery?
Thanks, Skip[/QUOTE]Robinsons Mall did have free Wifi access throughout the entire mall when I was there this past October, but when I used my ipod touch, only was able to get connection about half the time. The other times, it said something like "the server is full" or something similar to that statement. Same story when I tried to use my laptop at 10am in the morning. Do you get free internet but it's just spotty in my opinion. I thought it would be a "great idea" to get on DIA and say "I'm in the mall now, anyone wanna come get me" but that fell through because of the unreliable WiFi.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost]Somebody posted recently about WiFi in Robinson's Place Mall. On a recent trip I saw a guy using a laptop in Burger King, but couldn't tell if he was accessing the internet or just clinking away on the keyboard. Of course Starbucks pretty much everywhere will connect you to their WiFi for about 100 pesos per hour -- when it's working. But is there WiFi signal throughout the mall? Is it free or one credit card payment? Any information about details and reach of the signal are appreciated. Also, restaurants with wall plugs accessible to tables for those of us who only get an hour or so on a charged battery?
Thanks, Skip[/QUOTE]
It's on only one side of the mall near the bookstore and TGIF side. It's a horrible service. It used to work and now if I get the connection, it barely moves. I wouldn't let that offer of internet service be enough of a reason to go there for it.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost]Somebody posted recently about WiFi in Robinson's Place Mall. On a recent trip I saw a guy using a laptop in Burger King, but couldn't tell if he was accessing the internet or just clinking away on the keyboard. Of course Starbucks pretty much everywhere will connect you to their WiFi for about 100 pesos per hour -- when it's working. But is there WiFi signal throughout the mall? Is it free or one credit card payment? Any information about details and reach of the signal are appreciated. Also, restaurants with wall plugs accessible to tables for those of us who only get an hour or so on a charged battery?
Thanks, Skip[/QUOTE]
The connection in Robinson is very slow. I found a good connection in a bakery/cafeteria that is very close to Robinson Mall. If you are going from EP to Robinson, it will be on your right on the street that goes to Robinson. They have electricity outlets and decent selection of cakes and coffee. Ask the password when you buy coffee. I dont remember the name of the place, but you wont miss it. I found more pleasant to sit there than in my room at EP. LA Cafe is another place that offers wi-fi but I have not been successful to connect there.
I posted this in the HK forum too, but thought to post here as well.
What do the experienced hands here think is the comparison between the Philippinas in Wan Chai/Hong Kong & in Manila?
I can be in either HK or Manila for a weekend & am looking for a quality gfe type, 9 or highter, that I have found previously with my first Philippina girl I met last year in HK. We have kept in touch, but she is starting to distance herself & is probably working some other ISG bloke over as an atm or long-termer, so her correspondence is waning & she "has to check her schedule in HK as she might not be able to see me while she is there". LOL
I have been chatting with another 21 yr old gal from mindanao, really funny and hot, who is willing to fly to manila, be videotaped and play all weekend. But I am worried about being tied down all weekend w one gal, she is not a 9. 9 body, 7 face.
LA Cafe seems the place to be, but I have read so many varying reports on it. I am really looking for a 9 looks, 9 performance. & of course good chemistry.
I am working on a Philippino Emirates flight attendant based elswhere who has the full combo, smoking hot and smart. But we are only meeting for "coffee" after I arrive late in another country where we will both B.
I am now a huge fan of philippino women & want to handicap the places where I can meet with the most success for what I am looking for. I assume that going to the "source" I. E. Manila is a no brainer.
The reports here seem really mixed about the quality of the gals in the establishments in Manila and I'm wondering if the gals who go to HK are generally better looking and performers or if the type of gal who goes to HK generally can't handle the competition in Manila.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Cool Traveler]Boys. I used Kamagra. And got it from my little brother who is a doc. He recommended. I only take a quarter of the pill. I took half (thinking it will be bigger, harder). That thing did not come down all night long. I slept with a fucking hard on.
My whole groin area ached next morning.
So be careful. That Kamagra is actually strong.[/QUOTE]
I am curious how you took half a Kamagra pill, as it is an oral jelly!
Funny true story...met a guy here in the Philippines that brought Kamagra and told me that it didn't work for him. After talking to him for a minute I figured out why it didn't work. He applied it and didn't consume it:D
Robb
[QUOTE=Skip Kost]Somebody posted recently about WiFi in Robinson's Place Mall. On a recent trip I saw a guy using a laptop in Burger King, but couldn't tell if he was accessing the internet or just clinking away on the keyboard. Of course Starbucks pretty much everywhere will connect you to their WiFi for about 100 pesos per hour -- when it's working. But is there WiFi signal throughout the mall? Is it free or one credit card payment? Any information about details and reach of the signal are appreciated. Also, restaurants with wall plugs accessible to tables for those of us who only get an hour or so on a charged battery?
Thanks, Skip[/QUOTE]Skip,
Gloria Jeans (ground floor) provide free WiFi in the mall (well I guess you should buy a drink) but there are power points and comfortable chairs and I have always found the staff friendly. They will have to sign you in the first time you go but if you save the password you can use it on subsequent visits.
P
Robb.
Happy New Year. Well Happy New Monger Year to everyone who reads this post.
Kamagra.
I still have couple of them in my bag. They are pills. I got them in Malaysia.
Blue pills.
[QUOTE=Robbaf]I am curious how you took half a Kamagra pill, as it is an oral jelly!
Funny true story. Met a guy here in the Philippines that brought Kamagra and told me that it didn't work for him. After talking to him for a minute I figured out why it didn't work. He applied it and didn't consume it.
Robb[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Robbaf]I am curious how you took half a Kamagra pill, as it is an oral jelly!
Funny true story...met a guy here in the Philippines that brought Kamagra and told me that it didn't work for him. After talking to him for a minute I figured out why it didn't work. He applied it and didn't consume it:D
Robb[/QUOTE]Comes in both tablet and oral jelly format. Tablets are green. Its a standard generic drug imported from India.
[QUOTE=Ubique]I posted this in the HK forum too, but thought to post here as well.
I am really looking for a 9 looks, 9 performance. & of course good chemistry.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]you may want to try to massage places. I had a 9 in looks at Starfleet (2000 rm + 2000 for FS). Service was somewhat robotic, but solid.
[QUOTE=Pompolino]Skip,
Gloria Jeans (ground floor) provide free WiFi in the mall (well I guess you should buy a drink) but there are power points and comfortable chairs and I have always found the staff friendly. They will have to sign you in the first time you go but if you save the password you can use it on subsequent visits.
P[/QUOTE]
So is Gloria Jeans the coffee shop just ahead and slightly to the right as you come through the Pedro Gil entrance? Or is it the smaller coffee shop across from the escalators near Fridays?
Dimension, is the little bakery shop you're talking about maybe right on the southeast corner of Adriatico and Pedro Gil? A couple years ago there was a Mini-Stop in that location, but seems like it was a bakery last time I was by there.
[QUOTE=Cool Traveler]Robb.
Happy New Year. Well Happy New Monger Year to everyone who reads this post.
Kamagra.
I still have couple of them in my bag. They are pills. I got them in Malaysia.
Blue pills.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the reply:) I didn't not know that. Learn something new everyday.
Robb
[QUOTE=Ubique]I posted this in the HK forum too, but thought to post here as well.
What do the experienced hands here think is the comparison between the Philippinas in Wan Chai/Hong Kong & in Manila?
I can be in either HK or Manila for a weekend & am looking for a quality gfe type, 9 or highter, that I have found previously with my first Philippina girl I met last year in HK.
LA Cafe seems the place to be, but I have read so many varying reports on it. I am really looking for a 9 looks, 9 performance. & of course good chemistry.
The reports here seem really mixed about the quality of the gals in the establishments in Manila and I'm wondering if the gals who go to HK are generally better looking and performers or if the type of gal who goes to HK generally can't handle the competition in Manila.
[/QUOTE]
I haven't been to Hong Kong in awhile. I remember a long time ago being there and seeing them and I am pretty sure the talent will be way better in Manila. In regards to varying reports on LA Cafe, I could tell you it all depends on luck and what day and what time. Finding a 9 across the board? I don't know. I leave my bar high and can only hope for a 7-8 at times which I'm cool with if I can get an 8-10 in attitude. But your 9 may be a 7 in my book or vise versa. If one place doesn't work then move on to another venue and for a place like LA 24 hours, you can come back. I say go and get your feet wet. The plane ride is short.
[QUOTE=Ubique]I posted this in the HK forum too, but thought to post here as well.
What do the experienced hands here think is the comparison between the Philippinas in Wan Chai/Hong Kong & in Manila?
I can be in either HK or Manila for a weekend & am looking for a quality gfe type, 9 or highter, that I have found previously with my first Philippina girl I met last year in HK. We have kept in touch, but she is starting to distance herself & is probably working some other ISG bloke over as an atm or long-termer, so her correspondence is waning & she "has to check her schedule in HK as she might not be able to see me while she is there". LOL
I have been chatting with another 21 yr old gal from mindanao, really funny and hot, who is willing to fly to manila, be videotaped and play all weekend. But I am worried about being tied down all weekend w one gal, she is not a 9. 9 body, 7 face.
LA Cafe seems the place to be, but I have read so many varying reports on it. I am really looking for a 9 looks, 9 performance. & of course good chemistry.
I am working on a Philippino Emirates flight attendant based elswhere who has the full combo, smoking hot and smart. But we are only meeting for "coffee" after I arrive late in another country where we will both B.
I am now a huge fan of philippino women & want to handicap the places where I can meet with the most success for what I am looking for. I assume that going to the "source" I. E. Manila is a no brainer.
The reports here seem really mixed about the quality of the gals in the establishments in Manila and I'm wondering if the gals who go to HK are generally better looking and performers or if the type of gal who goes to HK generally can't handle the competition in Manila.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
I think the average quality among working girls is higher in HK because there are many non-attractive ones in Manila. A way I can see you to benefit from "the average" is if you want to try Many different, if not all, girls. Otherwise, you can find many very attractive ones plus a variety in Manila. There is a big difference in the price that is helpful to easily eliminate attractive non-corporating ones.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost]So is Gloria Jeans the coffee shop just ahead and slightly to the right as you come through the Pedro Gil entrance? Or is it the smaller coffee shop across from the escalators near Fridays?
Dimension, is the little bakery shop you're talking about maybe right on the southeast corner of Adriatico and Pedro Gil? A couple years ago there was a Mini-Stop in that location, but seems like it was a bakery last time I was by there.[/QUOTE]It's on the left hand side as you come in from the entrance which is the extension of Sta Monica nearer the crossing with M. Andriatico. It definitely isn't near the Pedro Gil entrance. Very close to Cherry Blossoms Hotel at the dog leg entrance to Robinsons where you can get taxis.
I have used this place extensively over the years and have always had quick, reliable connection. Last month I must have been there for 3 or 4 hours killing some time before my homeward journey and was never pressured to leave or keep buying drinks.
P.
[QUOTE=Ubique]
What do the experienced hands here think is the comparison between the Philippinas in Wan Chai/Hong Kong & in Manila?
[/QUOTE]
Hong Kong was, and I believe remains the second best place for meeting and fucking Filipinas in Asia, after The Philippines itself. There are an enormous number of female migrant workers, mostly working as maids and predominately from The Philippines but also Thailand and Indonesia. It was whilst living in Honkers that I first developed an abiding taste for Pinay pussy and picking them up was as easy as falling off a log. They are mostly all sex starved (few Pinoys about) and on the hunt for a man. So freebies are the order of the day and even a casual visitor ought to be able to find a decent looking Filipina to warm his bed.
The only problem is that they are normally free on one day of the week which is Sunday. If you head over to Central on that day, you will find literally thousands of maids sat around in large groups picnicking and partying in parks, round the cenotaph and on the streets (they used to divert the traffic on Sundays). Also there is a building called Worldwide Plaza which is full of Filipino businesses and cafes and hence throngs with available Pinays. Trapping off with one is like shooting fish in a barrel. There are few real stunners about though, the majority are reasonable looking country girls.
Outside of these rich pickings are the Wanchai Discos (Neptune etc) which are full of pros available for p4p although Sunday again offers amateur action available.
You are really hoping if you expect to find many 8’s or 9’s in LAC. They are very rare and quickly snapped up, usually by East Asian high rollers. But anything is possible in that den of dreams and part of the magic is that you never know what or whom you might find when you go through those double doors.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Hong Kong was, and I believe remains the second best place for meeting and fucking Filipinas in Asia, after The Philippines itself. There are an enormous number of female migrant workers, mostly working as maids and predominately from The Philippines but also Thailand and Indonesia. It was whilst living in Honkers that I first developed an abiding taste for Pinay pussy and picking them up was as easy as falling off a log. They are mostly all sex starved (few Pinoys about) and on the hunt for a man. So freebies are the order of the day and even a casual visitor ought to be able to find a decent looking Filipina to warm his bed.
The only problem is that they are normally free on one day of the week which is Sunday. If you head over to Central on that day, you will find literally thousands of maids sat around in large groups picnicking and partying in parks, round the cenotaph and on the streets (they used to divert the traffic on Sundays). Also there is a building called Worldwide Plaza which is full of Filipino businesses and cafes and hence throngs with available Pinays. Trapping off with one is like shooting fish in a barrel. There are few real stunners about though, the majority are reasonable looking country girls.
Outside of these rich pickings are the Wanchai Discos (Neptune etc) which are full of pros available for p4p although Sunday again offers amateur action available.
You are really hoping if you expect to find many 8's or 9's in LAC. They are very rare and quickly snapped up, usually by East Asian high rollers. But anything is possible in that den of dreams and part of the magic is that you never know what or whom you might find when you go through those double doors.[/QUOTE]Interesting CS. From 10. 5 years ago I was doing great with Filipinas in HK. Semed to find maids freely available and had no probs on my visits there. I remember one maid was going home for good, and she gave my name and number to friend who I then serviced, then she left and gave me name to another who I obviously had a go with.
Anyways, for past 5 years, I; ve had much greater success with Indonesian maids and freebies in HK. I suspect its because I have so much Filipina action in Phils, that I subconsciously seek a different target market.
In answer tho to the orginal question, both places are target rich.
In Phils, its easy to score and much cheaper for those with budget challenges.
HK is significantly pricier and obviously maids/freebies/paid sex workers all know that the cost is higher and therefor prices adjust automatically.
Case in point, I had one lady I knew in old Dimples in Burgos before it burnt for a few drinks and a tip of whatever. Whole thing wasnt more than say US$50. (P2500) I happened to same lady again in bikini and patent leather boots standing outside a bar in Wanchai. She remembered me so we chatted. She stated that now she had a bar fine of HK 2, 500 (US$ 322) and her "tip" was HK 1, 000 (US 130) up. The price of her pussy had escalated incredibly. Obviously I was happy having her in Manila but no way was I going to have her in HK.
[QUOTE=Ubique]I posted this in the HK forum too, but thought to post here as well.
What do the experienced hands here think is the comparison between the Philippinas in Wan Chai/Hong Kong & in Manila?
I can be in either HK or Manila for a weekend & am looking for a quality gfe type, 9 or highter, that I have found previously with my first Philippina girl I met last year in HK. We have kept in touch, but she is starting to distance herself & is probably working some other ISG bloke over as an atm or long-termer, so her correspondence is waning & she "has to check her schedule in HK as she might not be able to see me while she is there". LOL
I have been chatting with another 21 yr old gal from mindanao, really funny and hot, who is willing to fly to manila, be videotaped and play all weekend. But I am worried about being tied down all weekend w one gal, she is not a 9. 9 body, 7 face.
LA Cafe seems the place to be, but I have read so many varying reports on it. I am really looking for a 9 looks, 9 performance. & of course good chemistry.
I am working on a Philippino Emirates flight attendant based elswhere who has the full combo, smoking hot and smart. But we are only meeting for "coffee" after I arrive late in another country where we will both B.
I am now a huge fan of philippino women & want to handicap the places where I can meet with the most success for what I am looking for. I assume that going to the "source" I. E. Manila is a no brainer.
The reports here seem really mixed about the quality of the gals in the establishments in Manila and I'm wondering if the gals who go to HK are generally better looking and performers or if the type of gal who goes to HK generally can't handle the competition in Manila.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
Why go to HK when PH is only 1.5 hr flight away if Filipina is your cup of tea. You have much better chance to find 9s in Manila than in HK. There are tons of places you can hit in Manila in searching girls who meet your criteria while in HK you are limited to a few places. High quality girls are most easily found in high end KTV or night clubs, those along Roxas Blvd or Quezon Ave. in Quezon City. At lower cost places, it is more hit or miss. Manila has lots of beautiful girls, but most of them don’t work in this trade.
Every time I took a flight to Manila from different places in Asia, on the flight I seldom run into any 8 or above female oversea works who are returning home, but on the street of Manila, you will see many office girls who qualify.
I used to head to Manila and other parts of the PI about twice annually, but it has been over a year since the last visit. I hope nothing major has changed for the worse. Will be following an old gameplan of staying at the Executive Plaza and hanging around G-Point, LA Cafe, maybe Harrison Plaza, Robinson's, etc., during the day.
What do the FLs at LAC want these days? I think last time I was paying P1000 ST and P1500 LT, but my ability to get by as a cheap Charlie based on looks fades with each passing year. ;). Unfortunately the wallet doesn't grow, at least in the economy of late.
I've been reading through the reports and it sounds like not too much has changed, but any other advice would be appreciated. I need to give DIA a go but just have to find the time.
Originally Posted by Ubique
I posted this in the HK forum too, but thought to post here as well.
What do the experienced hands here think is the comparison between the Philippinas in Wan Chai/Hong Kong & in Manila?
There is no comparison. HK has a lot of domestic helpers, some look for love, some for money, but really only available on their day off, usually Sunday.
Amateur working girls will be in Wanchai at Neptune, Makati and Laguna, although the latter two are more Indonesian nowadays. US $70 up or you might be lucky with a freebie sometimes. Many Filipina girls coming in on two week holidays chasing money, $120 to $180 up. Very varying quality, I am not sure why fat ugly amatuer country girls come to HK and think they can ask that price, they would have to pay at home.
Manila is 90 mins away and has any number of willing attractive working girls at less than half the price with a much better attitude.
[QUOTE=Robbaf]I am curious how you took half a Kamagra pill, as it is an oral jelly!
Robb[/QUOTE]
Kamagra comes in both pill AND jelly as this site shows ----
[url]http://www.kamagranow.co.uk/[/url]
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]Kamagra comes in both pill AND jelly as this site shows ----
[url]http://www.kamagranow.co.uk/[/url][/QUOTE]Yes it does. I still have some of the pills. Last time I took it, I was somewhere in middle China, and I took half a pill. My ding dong got so hard, and sort of curved upwards, that it also hurt. My dick was painful, though the activity as a result of it being so hard, was very very enjoyable.
No side effects. I'd try a quarter of the pill next time, and I still have a bunch of them in my brief case along with my tums.
[QUOTE=Ploughman]
What do the FLs at LAC want these days? I think last time I was paying P1000 ST and P1500 LT, but my ability to get by as a cheap Charlie based on looks fades with each passing year. ;). Unfortunately the wallet doesn't grow, at least in the economy of late.
[/QUOTE]
You can still get these rates but only with the older, skankier girls downstairs. The fresher, cuter girls will hold out for a minimum of P1500 ST and P2000-2500 LT.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]You can still get these rates but only with the older, skankier girls downstairs. The fresher, cuter girls will hold out for a minimum of P1500 ST and P2000-2500 LT.[/QUOTE]
I agree. Good looking ones from upstairs wont go below 1500 ST and start their prices higher. You can still get P1000 ST with some decent looking young ones during the day. As I understand that LA Cafe does not allow girls under 18. Is that true? I talked to a few good looking ones and asked their age. They told me 18 but did not have any IDs. I didnt want to take the risk if any.
[quote=dimension] as i understand that la cafe does not allow girls under 18. is that true? i talked to a few good looking ones and asked their age. they told me 18 but did not have any ids. i didnt want to take the risk if any.[/quote]
yes it is, although as there is no official id in the philippines, what they do check is a postal id or student or work id or passport. apart from the last named, none are really secure so if you are doubtful it is best not to take a chance. **** girls do get in by using forged id or simply flashing the id of a friend or relative.
but i do know a young looking 20 year old who has been denied access to lac when she has forgotten her id.
I live in Bangkok so my comments about Manila are colored by what I am accustomed to in Thailand. Nonetheless, pussy is EXPENSIVE in Manila!
Went to P. Burgos Street, which I liked. Sort of a bigger version of Bangkok's Soi Cowboy. Lots of sexy girls (and some ladyboys) on the street and a wide variety of bars to choose from.
1. The price of ladydrinks is crazy high. At 390 pesos that is roughly 50% more than what I pay in Bangkok. And the P. Burgos girls are much, much, much more aggressive at pestering/begging for lady drinks. I think you're better off just throwing them 100 pesos and saying 'no' to ladydrinks.
2. The 2,500 to 3,000 for the girls is in line with the prices in Thailand.
3. The 3,000 bar fine (asked for 3,900) is crazy high. That is roughly 400% more than Soi Cowboy.
Maybe I'm just cheap, but these prices seem really high to me. I know I could go to AC for cheaper pussy, but are there any economy pussy outlets in Manila?
[QUOTE=Minuteman] 3. The 3,000 bar fine (asked for 3,900) is crazy high. That is roughly 400% more than Soi Cowboy.
Maybe I'm just cheap, but these prices seem really high to me. I know I could go to AC for cheaper pussy, but are there any economy pussy outlets in Manila?[/QUOTE]Did you read any entries on this page before you posted? Please read the posts by Dimension and Cunning Stunt, two and three posts earlier than yours, respectively.
Burgos isn't really indicative of Manila (it isn't really in Manila, either). It's a bit of market segmentation run amok, as well as a business model that, like Wanchai, tries to ensure extreme profitability even without take-outs most of the time. You've practically got to be 60+ and Japanese to even consider paying retail for the whole routine. Some guys try to set up dates outside the club and figure the most-stunning girls must work there. But many get tired of running the gauntlet to find out.
EDSA was closer to the price point, though there's a bit of market distortion due to some municipalities being hostile to the type of establishment. (i.e. artificially limited supply).
If you go to Cebu you generally find prices somewhat lower still, but not as low as Angeles, which is the real winner in the category and the great Cheap Charlie bastion. Though I've cut my time allocation there in favor of Manila or Cebu in recent years.
I always have stayed at the ex-plaza hotel when going through Manila. I hearing now that the pearl garden hotel, and the sister pearl lane hotel are in the same rate but better rooms. They seem to be in the same area, walking distance to LA cafe. Any feedback on theses two places? I'm there in 10 days, pm me if your in town for some beers.
Stevo
well, this is my first full report. so be nice.
i arrived jan 12th, stayed at the new world hotel (formerly rennaissance). still as nice, as good a service. for those who are not familiar, this is in makati/greenbelt 3, right across from cafe havana/starbucks.
i arrived at 9:30 pm, took a shower and walked down. i sat at cafe havana, ordered a drink, and just too many chicks, from the butt ugly, to gorgeous, to skiny, young, etc. you get the picture. for me this is part of the adventure. the hunting. or the hunting and gathering.
i had my drink, sized up a bunch of chicks, and left. has anyone noticed the girls have become more bold and aggressive at havana? i needed food at a decent place. went to sticky fingers. great food, much less smoke (no such thing as no smoke), great live badn. sat there until midnight, then went back to havana. some late comers, girls who couldn't find anyone etc.
saw a cute girl about 19 to 23 earlier, and she was still. she kept giving me the finger under the table. foound out later, it meant "sex". i just didn't like her attitude. these two girls plumped themselves right away next to my table then scooched over. after my half a drink took the cute one with a great attitude back to my room.
when the girl sat, and i decided, i asked her straight away if she wanted to come to my room. she said whatever i want. so, negotiated. she wanted 4000p. i offered 5000p until next day 2 pm with a nice massage included. other terms and conditions: anything i wanted, no texting, no phone, and no tv!
had absolutely no regret picking her. what a great attitude. i used half a kamagra pill. so it was almost 3 am. i had fallen asleep, woke up early morning with her leg draped over me. one more time, without kamagra, then got up, and let her sleep. got ready, showered, went down to get starbucks coffee (make sure all your important stuff is in the vault!), came back to my room. did some work. turned around saw her sleeping with her nipples hard.
jumped back in bed, doggy style, she on top etc. etc. an hour or so later, told her she can leave early if she wanted. she left at about 12:45 pm.
i did some more work and went for a walk at the greenbelt. i sat at starbucks, and there were girls in the middle of the day! in the middle of the day! at starbucks. and there were much cuters ones, and they kept checking me out. there were a lot of college girls at starbucks everything from birthdays, to just chit chatting. if you are nice young good looking boy, this is a great mid-day place to hang.
anyway, back to my report. this place is great 24 hrs of the day! the girls are wonderful. i had lunch at sticky fingers, it was cheap and very good. i recommend it. i recommend the night at sticky fingers.
can't wait to stop over on my trip back to the us. can't wait for thr girls, the music, and restaurants at greenbelt. they do have some really excellent food at the greenbelt.
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well, this is my first full report. so be nice.
i arrived jan 12th, stayed at the new world hotel (formerly rennaissance). still as nice, as good a service. for those who are not familiar, this is in makati/greenbelt 3, right across from cafe havana/starbucks.
i arrived at 9:30 pm, took a shower and walked down. i sat at cafe havana, ordered a drink, and just too many chicks, from the butt ugly, to gorgeous, to skiny, young, etc. you get the picture. for me this is part of the adventure. the hunting. or the hunting and gathering.
i had my drink, sized up a bunch of chicks, and left. has anyone noticed the girls have become more bold and aggressive at havana? i needed food at a decent place. went to sticky fingers. great food, much less smoke (no such thing as no smoke), great live badn. sat there until midnight, then went back to havana. some late comers, girls who couldn't find anyone etc.
saw a cute girl about 19 to 23 earlier, and she was still. she kept giving me the finger under the table. foound out later, it meant "sex". i just didn't like her attitude. these two girls plumped themselves right away next to my table then scooched over. after my half a drink took the cute one with a great attitude back to my room.
when the girl sat, and i decided, i asked her straight away if she wanted to come to my room. she said whatever i want. so, negotiated. she wanted 4000p. i offered 5000p until next day 2 pm with a nice massage included. other terms and conditions: anything i wanted, no texting, no phone, and no tv!
had absolutely no regret picking her. what a great attitude. i used half a kamagra pill. so it was almost 3 am. i had fallen asleep, woke up early morning with her leg draped over me. one more time, without kamagra, then got up, and let her sleep. got ready, showered, went down to get starbucks coffee (make sure all your important stuff is in the vault!), came back to my room. did some work. turned around saw her sleeping with her nipples hard.
jumped back in bed, doggy style, she on top etc. etc. an hour or so later, told her she can leave early if she wanted. she left at about 12:45 pm.
i did some more work and went for a walk at the greenbelt. i sat at starbucks, and there were girls in the middle of the day! in the middle of the day! at starbucks. and there were much cuters ones, and they kept checking me out. there were a lot of college girls at starbucks everything from birthdays, to just chit chatting. if you are nice young good looking boy, this is a great mid-day place to hang.
anyway, back to my report. this place is great 24 hrs of the day! the girls are wonderful. i had lunch at sticky fingers, it was cheap and very good. i recommend it. i recommend the night at sticky fingers.
can't wait to stop over on my trip back to the us. can't wait for thr girls, the music, and restaurants at greenbelt. they do have some really excellent food at the greenbelt.
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[QUOTE=Cool Traveler]Well, this is my first full report. So be nice.
I arrived Jan 12th, stayed at the New World Hotel (formerly Rennaissance). Still as nice, as good a service. For those who are not familiar, this is in Makati/Greenbelt 3, right across from Cafe Havana/Starbucks.
I arrived at 9:30 pm, took a shower and walked down. I sat at Cafe Havana, ordered a drink, and just too many chicks, from the butt ugly, to gorgeous, to skiny, young, etc. You get the picture. For me this is part of the adventure. The hunting. Or the hunting and gathering.
I had my drink, sized up a bunch of chicks, and left. Has anyone noticed the girls have become more bold and aggressive at Havana? attitude back to my room.at the greenbelt......[/QUOTE]The Greenbelt is a favorite hangout of mine, I don't go there looking for women but I do like the atmosphere and the Renaissance is my favorite hotel in Manila. I have nothing but good memories of that place before I bought the crib. Again thanks for the report. Keep them coming.
[QUOTE=Cool Traveler] There were a lot of college girls at starbucks everything from birthdays, to just chit chatting. If you are nice young good looking boy, this is a great mid-day place to hang.
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I've been involved in Phils since my late twenties, and am as active as I was 25 years back.
Well, I am back here in Manila. I found a girl through DIA, we met. She's been with me since last night, and sort of had to tell her, to go, very nicely. I was very nice to her. They seem not to want to go. The guilt was terrible. I prefer the ones I pick up at a club, and don't have to feel guilty booting them out, next morning.
Anyway this afternoon, I needed a massage. Found this place behind the New World Hotel, formerly Rennaissance called Ton Ton. It is right in the back of the hotel. They had prices posted on the wall. Had a great Thai massage. Ally my aches and pains has dissapeared after 1 and half hours and 400 pesos later.
I recommend this place if you are staying at this hotel and need a great massage, walking distance. It is on Arnaiz Ave, and if you are standing on the hotel sI'de of Arnaiz, it is half a block on the right across the street, across from a drug store. Hard to see, but you will notice the sign. They open after 3 pm and close late.
[QUOTE=Cool Traveler] When the girl sat, and I decided, I asked her straight away if she wanted to come to my room. She said whatever I want. So, negotiated. She wanted 4000P. I offered 5000P until next day 2 PM with a nice massage included.[/QUOTE]That's Makati money. Navy-guy prices. You're supposed to counter with less.
Girls with DIA and similar forums (my experience was through FPH, but it's the same company) can get clingy. (Don't accept any offers to meet you at the airport ;)). Many are too shy to be that way at first, but some know the long odds (because of all the other girls out looking) and figure they have to hook the first one that comes along.
Heck, I've had cases where bargirls start acting funny after I've taken 'em out a third time or so. My motivation is just to go with a known performer rather than expending considerable effort finding a new one, and I certainly don't sweet talk 'em or say anything committal. But nonetheless I've had full-on unexpected "breakup" treatments from girls who should be way more jaded than that.
Thanks nonetheless for sharing the observations.
(paraphrasing) " she asked for 4000. So I negotiated, offered her 5000"
5000 is 2 weeks salary for her. Thanks for driving up the prices. You're so very cool.
No, I don't care that this is the only two weeks per year that you can get laid. Stop ruining the neighborhood.
Manila is 90 minutes flight from Hong Kong. That does NOT mean that a fellow with a job HK can get to Manila in the evening after his day's work, and be back in his HK bed in time to do the morning commute.
Putting 2 + 2 together seems to be quite difficult for 30% of the posters here.
[QUOTE=Bronxnik](paraphrasing) " she asked for 4000. So I negotiated, offered her 5000"
5000 is 2 weeks salary for her. Thanks for driving up the prices. You're so very cool.
No, I don't care that this is the only two weeks per year that you can get laid. Stop ruining the neighborhood.[/QUOTE]
He didn't inflate the prices. He paid for what he wanted and he got what he paid for.
How many guys go to Havana and pay 2,500 or 3,000 ST? The more I read this forum the more I understand why there are so many ST and runners.
A girl from AC YM'ed yesterday that a cheap charlie barfined her and fucked her three times in 6 hours and kicked her out with no tip at all. He was staying at the Clarkton and she lives down on Fields. What the fuck is 100P for a trike??
Robb
[QUOTE=Robbaf] What the fuck is 100P for a trike??
Robb[/QUOTE]I don't tip for a short time, but I do give trike $.
Thing is the few times I looked the BF takes a jeepney lol.
[QUOTE=Freetime]I don't tip for a short time, but I do give trike $.
Thing is the few times I looked the BF takes a jeepney lol.[/QUOTE]
Sorry maybe I wasn't clear. He didn't give her shit. I was trying to say what is the big deal to give 100P, at the least, for trike fare.
Robb
[QUOTE=Robbaf]Sorry maybe I wasn't clear. He didn't give her shit. I was trying to say what is the big deal to give 100P, at the least, for trike fare.
Robb[/QUOTE]
You were clear. I was saying every time I gave a short time trike fare and I looked they were getting into a jeepney. I would say here trike fare and they would take it and go and get in a jeepney. That is what most do. Now if I had a girl for three rounds I would tip, I don't consider three round a ST, but it would be up to me not some other punter if I tipped or not. Why it is called a tip.
[QUOTE=Freetime]You were clear. I was saying every time I gave a short time trike fare and I looked they were getting into a jeepney. I would say here trike fare and they would take it and go and get in a jeepney. That is what most do. Now if I had a girl for three rounds I would tip, I don't consider three round a ST, but it would be up to me not some other punter if I tipped or not. Why it is called a tip.[/QUOTE]
No, I 100% agree with what you are saying, but some guys wonder how they keep getting turned down for barfining and they don't realize that the girls talk. So now he is know as a guy who likes to fuck and will not even pay a trike home at 6 am.
She told me yesterday that he came back to the bar and wanted to take her again and she told him no and he got upset:D
[QUOTE=Bronxnik](paraphrasing) " she asked for 4000. So I negotiated, offered her 5000"[/QUOTE]You left out the next phrase.
He offered her 5000 to stay with him UNTIL THE NEXT DAY 2PM WITH A MASSAGE INCLUDED.
Seems fair enough to me.
Why do guys get upset by what other mongers give to the girls?
It is NOT changing the rules. It is up to each one of us to negotiate a price. The girls know what is the going rate. If they get better than that from any punter then it's their lucky day.
Hi all,
Thinking of doing the Philippines in April but can't decide between there and Thailand (will be scuba diving and muff diving majority of the time!). I've searched the forums but can't find anything (except for Angeles city) on whether Manila contains the following:
- African / Black girls
- Russian girls
- Sex toy shops
Any information on the availability of the above would be truly appreciated, thanks!
[QUOTE=Red Kilt]You left out the next phrase.
He offered her 5000 to stay with him UNTIL THE NEXT DAY 2PM WITH A MASSAGE INCLUDED.
Seems fair enough to me.
Why do guys get upset by what other mongers give to the girls?
It is NOT changing the rules. It is up to each one of us to negotiate a price. The girls know what is the going rate. If they get better than that from any punter then it's their lucky day.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you 100%. It is the ex-pats who live on a fixed income that complain.
[QUOTE=Killer69] I've searched the forums but can't find anything (except for Angeles city) on whether Manila contains the following:
- African / Black girls
- Russian girls
- Sex toy shops[/QUOTE]
African / Black girls - P4P - Nope. You do come across the occasional black American/Filipino mix but even they are rare and I have only come across 2 in the business - 1 in Angeles and 1 in Manila (LA Cafe). Even in Bangkok the selection is not good and tend towards the 'fat mama' look, catering as they do for mostly Arab clientele and based around the Grace Hotel.
Russian girls - Never yet come across one on the game in Manila. Pattaya is the place (apart from Russia of course!) if you are partial to the occasional Natasha.
Sex toy shops - there is one in Malate near the Pedro Gil/Adriatico intersection, located in a cake shop:eek:, but prices are quite high and selection limited.
Think you might have more luck in LOS.
I stayed in manila 3 days last November. I booked the Eurotel located in Front of Robinson shopping Mall, on Pedro Gil Street. The hotel was not so good, small rooms and don't have even a window, internet disconnected often, breakfast was horrible. I gone to LA Cafe the first night, enjoyed few beers and the Bands upstair. The quality of the girls was not high but the choice was large, I think 10 girls for one man! I took my time and observed the business, I finally saw a cute girl around 2am, I noticed that she was in some groups of nice girls looking especially for asian guys (japanese or korean). I gone to see her and chatted with her, her nick name was Barbie, great, she was my Barbie sex Doll.
We did not talk about money and she decided to stay for a LT, first shout before to sleep and second one when she waked up at noon.
I put 1500 Pesos in her pocket before she left and took her number phone, the service was good.
[QUOTE=Robbaf]I agree with you 100%. It is the ex-pats who live on a fixed income that complain.[/QUOTE]
Fixed income or not...the prices need to be reasonable...we start paying more than what is considered reasonable....then the prices will continue to get out of hand.....
[QUOTE=Robbaf]She told me yesterday that he came back to the bar and wanted to take her again and she told him no and he got upset:D[/QUOTE]
This guy can forget about barfining any girl in this particular bar.
I guess all girls there will refuse him since all know.
IMHO.
Cheers!
When the girl sat, and I decided, I asked her straight away if she wanted to come to my room. She said whatever I want. So, negotiated. She wanted 4000P. I offered 5000P until next day 2 PM with a nice massage included. Other Terms and Conditions: anything I wanted, no texting, no phone, and no TV!
I'm living in Manila, you pay more than double tourist price. Philippino not pay more than 1500 and tourist more o less 2500 or 3000 if the girl is very pretty.
Congatulation!
J
[QUOTE=Rastralb]When the girl sat, and I decided, I asked her straight away if she wanted to come to my room. She said whatever I want. So, negotiated. She wanted 4000P. I offered 5000P until next day 2 PM with a nice massage included. Other Terms and Conditions: anything I wanted, no texting, no phone, and no TV!
I'm living in Manila, you pay more than double tourist price. Philippino not pay more than 1500 and tourist more o less 2500 or 3000 if the girl is very pretty.
Congatulation!
J[/QUOTE]
Please don't mislead newbies here. If you go to Burgos most barfines are 3000P-3900P. If you don't know any better, or if you don't care to pay that for the barfine and then you have to tip the girl. So you could end of spending 5 or 6000P for the night. If you go to EDSA and pay 1400P for the barfine and then the expected tip is around 2000P ST and 2500P LT, and you end up around 4000P.
I live and work here so I know where to go for less, but I can quote you many stories of newbies, first time in Manila, getting taken by taxi drivers. I met a young guy (23) last Sunday and he told me about his first night in Manila. He and a buddy got into a cab and told the driver to take them to a bar. The driver took them to a KTV and of course no one in the KTV told them anything about costs. He told me that they were having a ball and they couldn't believe all these girls liked them and sat and drank and partied with them. When they were ready to go, he told me that he almost shit his pants when he got a 10,000P bill. He honestly thought that the girls were drinking their own drinks.
Sometimes I stay on Burgos and party like a rock star, sometimes I go to EDSA and sometimes I go the LA Cafe route. That is what is great about the Philippines. There is something for everyone.
Robb
[QUOTE=Robbaf]Please don't mislead newbies here. If you go to Burgos most barfines are 3000P-3900P. If you don't know any better, or if you don't care to pay that for the barfine and then you have to tip the girl. So you could end of spending 5 or 6000P for the night. If you go to EDSA and pay 1400P for the barfine and then the expected tip is around 2000P ST and 2500P LT, and you end up around 4000P.
I live and work here so I know where to go for less, but I can quote you many stories of newbies, first time in Manila, getting taken by taxi drivers. I met a young guy (23) last Sunday and he told me about his first night in Manila. He and a buddy got into a cab and told the driver to take them to a bar. The driver took them to a KTV and of course no one in the KTV told them anything about costs. He told me that they were having a ball and they couldn't believe all these girls liked them and sat and drank and partied with them. When they were ready to go, he told me that he almost shit his pants when he got a 10,000P bill. He honestly thought that the girls were drinking their own drinks.
Sometimes I stay on Burgos and party like a rock star, sometimes I go to EDSA and sometimes I go the LA Cafe route. That is what is great about the Philippines. There is something for everyone.
Robb[/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification on pricing, Robb. I have been considering a stopover in PI when I am out in Asia in a few months. I haven't been out to the PI since 1999. I don't remember what the barfine was, but I remember tipping about 500p each time and the ladies were very happy with that amount. One question though, are these prices for ST or LT? The ladies I was with in 1999, always spent the night, just want to make sure that this has not changed as well.
I'd stay in ermita/ Malate area. It's not far from Sta cruz / Quiapo.
X
[QUOTE=Sexy Geezer]Hi all,
I have a young hottie line up who is stying with her brother in Sta Cruz near Quiapo. Does anyone know if there is reasonable accommodation in the vicinity or if I should stay elsewhere.
Thanks for any info[/QUOTE]
??? You mean you aren't a rock star??? How disappointing. X
[QUOTE=Robbaf]
Sometimes I stay on Burgos and party like a rock star,
Robb[/QUOTE]
Going to London this weekend and am sure I might be lonely so have been chatting with a former Burgos bargirl I know who moved to England a few months ago with her " husband".
Shes told me shes living in London and is more than happy to meet me.
Only problem, is that according to her address she is living in Birmingham, some 200 miles from London.
I wonder if her husband has told her that Birmingham is London?
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]
Only problem, is that according to her address she is living in Birmingham, some 200 miles from London.
I wonder if her husband has told her that Birmingham is London?[/QUOTE]
Most Pinays have as much idea of Geography as I have about Quantum Physics!
I've lost count of the number of Filipinas who have assured me that London (or UK) is in the US ....groan:eek:.
P.S ..if you think that Brum is 200 miles from London then I guess that geography is not your strongest subject either...lol.
A tricycle is not a more expensive jeepney.
Tricycles are normally LICENSED by the local barangay captain; aren't supposed to leave the brgy; may even have tighter restrictions on how far they can go. Driver might be perfectly willing to go wherever, but there IS law enforcement here; there is also hassles (= costing him bribe money) from cops and the LTO guys. Trike driver has reason to ponder whether he wants to take the chance.
Jeeps go on metro-wide fixed routes. Taxi can also go anywhere, but metro Manila is big. Could easily cost the girl 200-250 out of her barfine. The barfine needs to last until she gets her next one, she can't afford to waste it.
Not to mention that many taxi drivers WILL REFUSE to travel to residential locations where they have nil chance of getting a fare out of there. And I really can't blame them. Unlike Singapore, the meter doesn't re-imburse the driver for his time; only for kilometers. Taxi drivers here are not making millions. THat doesn't mean they should rig the meter (A driver in Manila was recently SHOT DEAD when the Filipino passenger noticed there was a foot button which incremented the meter above and beyond its odometer travel; passenger left the driver's body with 100-peso note in his cold dead hand to show the cops it wasn't a robbery); it does mean that transients should remember that they're not in Kansas anymore.
Which
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Most Pinays have as much idea of Geography as I have about Quantum Physics!
I've lost count of the number of Filipinas who have assured me that London (or UK) is in the US. Groan.
P.S. If you think that Brum is 200 miles from London then I guess that geography is not your strongest subject either. LOL.[/QUOTE]yeah yeah. 112 miles. I haven't lived there in 25 years so it was a reasonable guess LOL.
[QUOTE=Booey]Thanks for the clarification on pricing, Robb. I have been considering a stopover in PI when I am out in Asia in a few months. I haven't been out to the PI since 1999. I don't remember what the barfine was, but I remember tipping about 500p each time and the ladies were very happy with that amount. One question though, are these prices for ST or LT? The ladies I was with in 1999, always spent the night, just want to make sure that this has not changed as well.[/QUOTE]
If you are in Angeles 500P tip is average, but for Manila and Makati the prices are higher. You can talk to the girl and Mommasan and get better rates, but if you walk in and point and shoot you will pay top dollar.
I have taken girls who only wanted ST, but once they got in the room they end up staying LT.
I took a girl out of LA Cafe, very very shy, and she told me she only had a hour. Took her to the Diamond and had to kick her out six hours later to go meet some friends for dinner. She wanted to spend the night. It is all about how you treat the girls.
Robb
long time lurker. first time poster.
i have had many enjoyable exciting experiences across europe, south america, and asia thanks to isg posters and i felt that finally i have something to contribute. unfortunately it is in a negative sense.
recently because of a business emergency i traveled to manila and did not have the time i usually take to do research before i travel. because the amount of work, i made it a whole week before the "itch" took hold.
on saturday, searching on the internet, i came across "makati escorts". the pictures and descriptions kept sending me back to "scarlett" who was the most expensive of the cast ($200usd/3 hrs). the price seemed very high but based on the description and the fact that i was going to only have one weekend in manila i decided to take a flier on her. i finally worked up enough courage to call and was greeted by someone with very good english skills. i asked about scarlett and was told that he would check and call me back in 5 minutes. he was right on time and told me that she would be available in 2hours. i booked her for that early evening and waited. after 1. 5 hour of waiting, she called and told me that she had an emergency and would be another 3 hours late. at that point i cancelled the meeting and decided to go get something to drink instead. as i was leaving, my phone rang again and it was the escort office apologizing for the problem. i asked about other availability and was told that they had someone who could be there in 45 minutes (at a much cheaper price), i said "ok". well, 2 hours later (now 11:00pm) i gave up waiting and went to bed. the replacement never showed.
not being extremely smart, i again called "makati escorts" the next afternoon and was greeted by the same guy. he claimed to be shocked by the no show and apologized. i again asked about scarlett and we went thru the call back. she was available and would be there in 2 hours. before hanging up, i confirmed that the price was for 3 hours, that they would accept usd, and there were no further costs.
well 2. 5 hours later, the phone again rang. it was indeed scarlett and she was outside the lobby and needed money for the cab because she had no pesos, only dollars. i trudged down to the lobby to find someone sitting there who could only an escort. she was dressed in high heeled shoes, very short dress with tits pushing out of the dress top which was half unzipped. the only thing she was missing was a neon sign flashing "hooker". i paid the cab 500 pesos and embarrassingly led her to the elevator through a crowd of people staring at her and got to my room. at this point she announced that since she had no pesos, she also didn't have any protection and could i please give her another 500 pesos and she would run to the store a bock away. another 15 minutes when by and she returned with the necessary items. i paid her the agreed amount and she announced that she didn't want usd, she wanted pesos. i told her us or nothing. she then asked for liquor and i told her i had none. she also wondered why i seemed angry. i offered a beer which she took and after two gulps headed for the bathroom. 5 minutes later she emerged in panties and bra and sat down on the bed. i got ready and lay down beside her. she immediately grabbed me and after a few shakes her head went south. the bj was less than great (actually very amateurish) and lasted for about 90 seconds before her head popped up grabbed the raincoat and put it on.
she immediately jumped on and started bouncing. i tried to remove her bra but was stopped and she said they were too sore from the prior night when she was high on ecstasy and some guy squeezed them too hard. so here i am down well over $200 and 5 minutes after getting down to business i was done. and i hadn't even gotten her totally naked.
now she jumps up, heads for the bathroom again. i can hear the shower running then tooth brushing then just noise. 15 minutes went by and she emerges, full dressed- heads for the "sofa" and now wants to talk. i stuck my head into the bathroom to find it totally trashed – all the towels used/stained and rep001tered about and water covering the floor. by then, i just wanted the whole thing to be over so i told her that she could leave. no argument from her but she did manage to ask for cab fare for the ride home. the answer was "no chance".
gentlemen. avoid makati escorts and scarlett like the plague. worst time i have ever had!
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[QUOTE=Mr Old Style]Long time lurker. First time poster.
Not being extremely smart, I again called "Makati Escorts" the next afternoon and was greeted by the same guy.
Well 2. 5 hours later, the phone again rang. It was indeed Scarlett and she was outside the lobby and needed money for the cab because she had no pesos, only dollars.
[/QUOTE]
You had so many clues telling you to walk away from them but you just had to keep going. A Filipina with no peso, only dollars? Weird, but at least you now have the experience, costly at it may have been.
if you use this service ask for marian, cindy and nica i have been with them and they will give you what you want and no rush!
[quote=mr old style]long time lurker. first time poster.
i have had many enjoyable exciting experiences across europe, south america, and asia thanks to isg posters and i felt that finally i have something to contribute. unfortunately it is in a negative sense.
recently because of a business emergency i traveled to manila and did not have the time i usually take to do research before i travel. because the amount of work, i made it a whole week before the "itch" took hold.
on saturday, searching on the internet, i came across "makati escorts". the pictures and descriptions kept sending me back to "scarlett" who was the most expensive of the cast ($200usd/3 hrs). the price seemed very high but based on the description and the fact that i was going to only have one weekend in manila i decided to take a flier on her. i finally worked up enough courage to call and was greeted by someone with very good english skills. i asked about scarlett and was told that he would check and call me back in 5 minutes. he was right on time and told me that she would be available in 2hours. i booked her for that early evening and waited. after 1. 5 hour of waiting, she called and told me that she had an emergency and would be another 3 hours late. at that point i cancelled the meeting and decided to go get something to drink instead. as i was leaving, my phone rang again and it was the escort office apologizing for the problem. i asked about other availability and was told that they had someone who could be there in 45 minutes (at a much cheaper price), i said "ok". well, 2 hours later (now 11:00pm) i gave up waiting and went to bed. the replacement never showed.
not being extremely smart, i again called "makati escorts" the next afternoon and was greeted by the same guy. he claimed to be shocked by the no show and apologized. i again asked about scarlett and we went thru the call back. she was available and would be there in 2 hours. before hanging up, i confirmed that the price was for 3 hours, that they would accept usd, and there were no further costs.
well 2. 5 hours later, the phone again rang. it was indeed scarlett and she was outside the lobby and needed money for the cab because she had no pesos, only dollars. i trudged down to the lobby to find someone sitting there who could only an escort. she was dressed in high heeled shoes, very short dress with tits pushing out of the dress top which was half unzipped. the only thing she was missing was a neon sign flashing "hooker". i paid the cab 500 pesos and embarrassingly led her to the elevator through a crowd of people staring at her and got to my room. at this point she announced that since she had no pesos, she also didn't have any protection and could i please give her another 500 pesos and she would run to the store a bock away. another 15 minutes when by and she returned with the necessary items. i paid her the agreed amount and she announced that she didn't want usd, she wanted pesos. i told her us or nothing. she then asked for liquor and i told her i had none. she also wondered why i seemed angry. i offered a beer which she took and after two gulps headed for the bathroom. 5 minutes later she emerged in panties and bra and sat down on the bed. i got ready and lay down beside her. she immediately grabbed me and after a few shakes her head went south. the bj was less than great (actually very amateurish) and lasted for about 90 seconds before her head popped up grabbed the raincoat and put it on.
she immediately jumped on and started bouncing. i tried to remove her bra but was stopped and she said they were too sore from the prior night when she was high on ecstasy and some guy squeezed them too hard. so here i am down well over $200 and 5 minutes after getting down to business i was done. and i hadn't even gotten her totally naked.
now she jumps up, heads for the bathroom again. i can hear the shower running then tooth brushing then just noise. 15 minutes went by and she emerges, full dressed- heads for the "sofa" and now wants to talk. i stuck my head into the bathroom to find it totally trashed – all the towels used/stained and rep001tered about and water covering the floor. by then, i just wanted the whole thing to be over so i told her that she could leave. no argument from her but she did manage to ask for cab fare for the ride home. the answer was "no chance".
gentlemen. avoid makati escorts and scarlett like the plague. worst time i have ever had!
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[QUOTE=Mr Old Style]Gentlemen. Avoid Makati Escorts and Scarlett like the plague. Worst time I have ever had![/QUOTE]Well great post wrong section see internet escorts section where the most recent post is a post I made last November about. A terrible meeting with a Makati escort girls.
Is scarlett at least similar to her pic?
About her looking like a hooker, well from the pic you can see she's closer to Barbie Doll or Pamela Anderson than Princess Diana.
I have the opportunity to stay at Hyatt Hotel & Casino near LA Cafe & Robinson Mall beginning of March for a good deal.
Is Hyatt GF?
Any issues?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Mr Old Style]Avoid Makati Escorts and Scarlett like the plague.[/QUOTE]Was it at least the same girl, and did she look like the girl in the pictures?
I have seen their ads on craigslist many times. they do a great job of dressing up the girls and selling the merchandise.
too bad because they looked interesting.
Sorry Robb. You shouldn't be taking the hit for me.
The prices are all over. The girls are a plenty. I did meet the same girl, on my return trip which I did not report. And, I had a plane to catch very next day, so wasn't really looking for action except a table for din din, a few beers to clean my system from all that Chinese grub I've had the previous few days while in China.
There was not one table available at Havana. I was looking, then this girl comes and grabs me from behind. The same girl from my onward trip. She had a table with another friend. We had dinner together, and told me both of them wanted to come up. I told her not enough money, and she said, just pay the other one, that's all, she needs the money.
We went to my room across from Havana, and after 2 hours, I paid her (3000), and let the other girl go. My "new old friend" stayed with me until the morning. She was very nice to me. She left late in the morning. Refused to take money, ended up giving her 1000 pesos. For taxi.
I have done this before. It worked in China. It worked in Thailand. It worked in Myanmar. It worked it Frankfurt.
It pays to be nice sometimes. For these girls, it is refreshing when they meet someone who is actually nice to them, and cares about their well being sometimes.
But sometimes. You do get those girls where. They take your money. Then they fill their bags with all the cookies and chocs, from the room. Etc. Etc.
It is part of the whole thing.
For me, personally, it is bad enough that they have to fuck a stranger, so I give, because, I want to.
Inflating the price, mayB. But someone else is going to come and deflate it back. And there are plenty of girls, of all kinds of attitudes, shapes and sizes. If you are smart, you will notice, the ones that will take care of you. It doesn't matter if they are not the greatest looking gals. But they will take care of you. But make sure they have great body.
At Havana Cafe, you will get a nice girl for 3000. Just go late. You go early, it will be expensive, and the girl would try to leave early so she can get a "second" round in for the night!
Like Robb says, I paid for what I wanted. Not just sex.
[QUOTE=Robbaf]He didn't inflate the prices. He paid for what he wanted and he got what he paid for.
How many guys go to Havana and pay 2, 500 or 3, 000 ST? The more I read this forum the more I understand why there are so many ST and runners.
A girl from AC YM'ed yesterday that a cheap charlie barfined her and fucked her three times in 6 hours and kicked her out with no tip at all. He was staying at the Clarkton and she lives down on Fields. What the fuck is 100P for a trike?
Robb[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Most Pinays have as much idea of Geography as I have about Quantum Physics!
I've lost count of the number of Filipinas who have assured me that London (or UK) is in the US ....groan:eek:. [/QUOTE]
Actually CS, there's sort of a new one in the U.S. in Connecticut. Major naval submarine base there. When the subs get up against the pilings at their moorings and the tide and wake of other vessels move them around, they do sometimes make those groaning and eeking sounds. Not the kind of groaning and eeking sounds that are music to my ears, however.
I agree with you about Pinays and geographic knowledge. If you want to impress them install the free version of Google Earth on your laptop and show it off in your WiFi equiipped hotel room. Turn it on for a demostration, start at some location back home -- Britain, U.S., wherever -- and then punch in the name of some obvious Manila establishment (LA Cafe has at least one photo entry, so it will work, or something near where she lives) on the "business" pulldown, and hit the go button. The whirling of the earth view as it spins toward the Philippines is really awe inspiring for many of our brown-skinned playthings. Of course it works better if you practice in advance so you know some locations that the program can find.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost]Actually CS, there's sort of a new one in the U.S. in Connecticut. Major naval submarine base there. When the subs get up against the pilings at their moorings and the tide and wake of other vessels move them around, they do sometimes make those groaning and eeking sounds. Not the kind of groaning and eeking sounds that are music to my ears, however.
I agree with you about Pinays and geographic knowledge. If you want to impress them install the free version of Google Earth on your laptop and show it off in your WiFi equiipped hotel room. Turn it on for a demostration, start at some location back home -- Britain, U.S., wherever -- and then punch in the name of some obvious Manila establishment (LA Cafe has at least one photo entry, so it will work, or something near where she lives) on the "business" pulldown, and hit the go button. The whirling of the earth view as it spins toward the Philippines is really awe inspiring for many of our brown-skinned playthings. Of course it works better if you practice in advance so you know some locations that the program can find.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that Google Earth is incredible. It awe inspires me, let alone my brown-skinned plaything. I actually found and flagged up my house in the Philippines and then often do a quick navigate to somewhere else such as a past address in UK. It never fails to astonish and amuse my admittedly somewhat simple mind;).
Bet the new London is not a patch on the old. Same as, for all its bells and whistles, that new fangled version of York is not as good as its original Yorkshire namesake!
Finally got around to seeing Joan. We met at my preferred ST venue, Eurotel, Pedro Gil and she was very prompt, arriving only 5 minutes later than our mutually agreed time, which is always a good sign, particularly as she lives way out in Cavite.
She looks good enough to eat. She is a tiny wisp of a thing, 22 and only 4 foot 10 and 80 pounds soaking wet. She is very brown skinned and Pinay looking with a little button nose and an astonishingly dirty laugh. Great, tight little body with a cracking butt and the usual tiny little Jolibee tummy. No kids. She has one piercing – her tongue, which she was later to use to remarkably good effect. Her English is excellent – she said she had lost her cherry 2 years before to an English boyfriend …hmmm. An altogether lovely, little spinner.
No wonder she gets absolute rave reviews. As a nympho, this girl leaves even Ana standing at the gate. I pride myself on being able to outstay most Pinay fillies but this girl had me seriously flagging. Good job that she brought a selection of toys with her, including a vibrator and a fucking great black strap-on dildo which looked like it would split her in two. So, whilst I recovered in between shags, we pleasured her with toys. She is genuinely multi-orgasmic and appeared to be getting as much fun as I was.
She will do anything for pleasure except SM (although she loves being doggy spanked, really hard!!). Anal is permitted if your tool is small/medium sized, which negated my chances;). DT is excellent and she really does swallow if you insist, which I, being a gentleman, did not. For such a tiny girl, she loves being given it hard and deep and no whining about it being ‘too beeg’, just a lot of squeaks and genuine moaning.
She is bisexual and has a stable of 4 friends (two 19, one 20 and one 21 year old) who can join her. One is lactating, if that is your thing. If you are really perverted, she also has a LB friend:eek:.
She actually instructs you to bring a camera and take as many shots/videos as possible!
If you like a real raunchy PSE with a girl who also does a good GFE as well, Joan is the real deal. But get there pretty quickly as she says that she is going to hang up her dildos in a few weeks, when she hopes to open a legitimate business.
Posted a few photos in the appropriate place([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=983202&postcount=2445[/url]).
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Finally got around to seeing Joan. We met at my preferred ST venue, Eurotel, Pedro Gil and she was very prompt, arriving only 5 minutes later than our mutually agreed time, which is always a good sign, particularly as she lives way out in Cavite.
She looks good enough to eat. She is a tiny wisp of a thing, 22 and only 4 foot 10 and 80 pounds soaking wet. She is very brown skinned and Pinay looking with a little button nose and an astonishingly dirty laugh. Great, tight little body with a cracking butt and the usual tiny little Jolibee tummy. No kids. She has one piercing – her tongue, which she was later to use to remarkably good effect. Her English is excellent – she said she had lost her cherry 2 years before to an English boyfriend …hmmm. An altogether lovely, little spinner.
No wonder she gets absolute rave reviews. As a nympho, this girl leaves even Ana standing at the gate. I pride myself on being able to outstay most Pinay fillies but this girl had me seriously flagging. Good job that she brought a selection of toys with her, including a vibrator and a fucking great black strap-on dildo which looked like it would split her in two. So, whilst I recovered in between shags, we pleasured her with toys. She is genuinely multi-orgasmic and appeared to be getting as much fun as I was.
She will do anything for pleasure except SM (although she loves being doggy spanked, really hard!!). Anal is permitted if your tool is small/medium sized, which negated my chances;). DT is excellent and she really does swallow if you insist, which I, being a gentleman, did not. For such a tiny girl, she loves being given it hard and deep and no whining about it being ‘too beeg’, just a lot of squeaks and genuine moaning.
She is bisexual and has a stable of 4 friends (two 19, one 20 and one 21 year old) who can join her. One is lactating, if that is your thing. If you are really perverted, she also has a LB friend:eek:.
She actually instructs you to bring a camera and take as many shots/videos as possible!
If you like a real raunchy PSE with a girl who also does a good GFE as well, Joan is the real deal. But get there pretty quickly as she says that she is going to hang up her dildos in a few weeks, when she hopes to open a legitimate business.
Posted a few photos in the appropriate place([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=983202&postcount=2445[/url]).[/QUOTE]
Damn you beat me too her, I was planning on meeting up with her when I'm in Manila in March...Hopefully she wont of hung up her dildo's before then. Nice photos...btw!
[QUOTE=Mongerer69]I have the opportunity to stay at Hyatt Hotel & Casino near LA Cafe & Robinson Mall beginning of March for a good deal.
Is Hyatt GF?
Any issues?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Monger69,
Hyatt is GF and apart from checking and noting down her ID there should be no issues.
P
[submarines making groaning noises at berth]
It's not the hull, it's the mooring lines. Incorrectly tensioned!
[QUOTE=Mongerer69]I have the opportunity to stay at Hyatt Hotel & Casino near LA Cafe & Robinson Mall beginning of March for a good deal.
Is Hyatt GF?
Any issues?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Yes, GF - I tried (as I had in the past) to register a new friend, and they said tha I did not even have to do that!
[quote=mr old style]long time lurker. first time poster.
i have had many enjoyable exciting experiences across europe, south america, and asia thanks to isg posters and i felt that finally i have something to contribute. unfortunately it is in a negative sense.
recently because of a business emergency i traveled to manila and did not have the time i usually take to do research before i travel. because the amount of work, i made it a whole week before the "itch" took hold.
on saturday, searching on the internet, i came across "makati escorts". the pictures and descriptions kept sending me back to "scarlett" who was the most expensive of the cast ($200usd/3 hrs). the price seemed very high but based on the description and the fact that i was going to only have one weekend in manila i decided to take a flier on her. i finally worked up enough courage to call and was greeted by someone with very good english skills. i asked about scarlett and was told that he would check and call me back in 5 minutes. he was right on time and told me that she would be available in 2hours. i booked her for that early evening and waited. after 1. 5 hour of waiting, she called and told me that she had an emergency and would be another 3 hours late. at that point i cancelled the meeting and decided to go get something to drink instead. as i was leaving, my phone rang again and it was the escort office apologizing for the problem. i asked about other availability and was told that they had someone who could be there in 45 minutes (at a much cheaper price), i said "ok". well, 2 hours later (now 11:00pm) i gave up waiting and went to bed. the replacement never showed.
not being extremely smart, i again called "makati escorts" the next afternoon and was greeted by the same guy. he claimed to be shocked by the no show and apologized. i again asked about scarlett and we went thru the call back. she was available and would be there in 2 hours. before hanging up, i confirmed that the price was for 3 hours, that they would accept usd, and there were no further costs.
well 2. 5 hours later, the phone again rang. it was indeed scarlett and she was outside the lobby and needed money for the cab because she had no pesos, only dollars. i trudged down to the lobby to find someone sitting there who could only an escort. she was dressed in high heeled shoes, very short dress with tits pushing out of the dress top which was half unzipped. the only thing she was missing was a neon sign flashing "hooker". i paid the cab 500 pesos and embarrassingly led her to the elevator through a crowd of people staring at her and got to my room. at this point she announced that since she had no pesos, she also didn't have any protection and could i please give her another 500 pesos and she would run to the store a bock away. another 15 minutes when by and she returned with the necessary items. i paid her the agreed amount and she announced that she didn't want usd, she wanted pesos. i told her us or nothing. she then asked for liquor and i told her i had none. she also wondered why i seemed angry. i offered a beer which she took and after two gulps headed for the bathroom. 5 minutes later she emerged in panties and bra and sat down on the bed. i got ready and lay down beside her. she immediately grabbed me and after a few shakes her head went south. the bj was less than great (actually very amateurish) and lasted for about 90 seconds before her head popped up grabbed the raincoat and put it on.
she immediately jumped on and started bouncing. i tried to remove her bra but was stopped and she said they were too sore from the prior night when she was high on ecstasy and some guy squeezed them too hard. so here i am down well over $200 and 5 minutes after getting down to business i was done. and i hadn't even gotten her totally naked.
now she jumps up, heads for the bathroom again. i can hear the shower running then tooth brushing then just noise. 15 minutes went by and she emerges, full dressed- heads for the "sofa" and now wants to talk. i stuck my head into the bathroom to find it totally trashed – all the towels used/stained and rep001tered about and water covering the floor. by then, i just wanted the whole thing to be over so i told her that she could leave. no argument from her but she did manage to ask for cab fare for the ride home. the answer was "no chance".
gentlemen. avoid makati escorts and scarlett like the plague. worst time i have ever had!
[size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]click here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/quote]man thanks for that info. i am arriving next week and was planning to call makati escorts even though i suspected the service was average.
200 bucks imagine what that would get in edsa . my firt stop next week!
cheers
[QUOTE=Teacup]Yes, GF - I tried (as I had in the past) to register a new friend, and they said tha I did not even have to do that![/QUOTE]Yes it is ok. Earlier this month, I arranged for my GF to check into the room before I got there. As she was coming by bus, and I by plane. She had to pay 2000 peso deposit for incidentals (I had the room covered on my CC). And when I got there, they used my card for the deposit and gave her the 2000 back.
I'm going back tomorrow and have the same arrangement.
[QUOTE=Cool Traveler]
Sorry Robb. You shouldn't be taking the hit for me.
We went to my room across from Havana, and after 2 hours, I paid her (3000), and let the other girl go.
It pays to be nice sometimes. For these girls, it is refreshing when they meet someone who is actually nice to them, and cares about their well being sometimes.
But sometimes. You do get those girls where. They take your money. Then they fill their bags with all the cookies and chocs, from the room. Etc. Etc.
It is part of the whole thing.
For me, personally, it is bad enough that they have to fuck a stranger, so I give, because, I want to.
Inflating the price, mayB. But someone else is going to come and deflate it back. And there are plenty of girls, of all kinds of attitudes, shapes and sizes. If you are smart, you will notice, the ones that will take care of you. It doesn't matter if they are not the greatest looking gals. But they will take care of you. But make sure they have great body.
At Havana Cafe, you will get a nice girl for 3000. Just go late. You go early, it will be expensive, and the girl would try to leave early so she can get a "second" round in for the night!
Like Robb says, I paid for what I wanted. Not just sex.[/QUOTE]
CT
I agree with your sentiments (as well as Robb's comments). For me being nice always pays dividends, when I return to Manila I sometimes spend a night or two with a girls I have met previously and it always pays dividends - longer time, more fun, more shagging :) .... I get texts from them asking when am back and if I have any nice friends...so it does pay to be nice even if you are a kinky old bastard like me
And havingt o shag ugly strangers - well add bald and fat into that (well in my case) and I should be paying more than 3000 pesos :D
Havana never disappoints me while LA Cafe has, and I prefer Makati and likely too lazy to cab over to LA. Prices are what you want to pay and 3000 pesos is not expensive for many of us but is a lot for many of them, so I am always generous, never a cheap charlie and let them raid all the toiletries before they leave the room (but not the mini bar...)
It does not cost much to be nice and so what if we slightly inflate a price because there are many cheap charlies out there who will try 1000 pesos or less!!
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]It does not cost much to be nice and so what if we slightly inflate a price because there are many cheap charlies out there who will try 1000 pesos or less!![/QUOTE]
Inflate the price / Cheap Charlie / etc... tiring debates...
Some guys like you fly in and 3,000 peso for where you are from and your situation is not a lot and I know you get a lot out of girls. For others who live in PI and get one shag or such then 1,000 peso is fine.
You're not a one shag and bye bye kind of guy. Some of us have extra curricular activities going on with the ladies, more photo's / video, more training, and multiple shots. One session can go 20 to 40 hours.
So let's clarify... I and you pay well, 3-4000 peso, but we're not ruining the going rate as the lady is doing a hell of a lot that most posters do not realize. Even on a recent DIA 20 year old she went through training like she never imagined and she was surprised as heck that I gave her some funds, which she went out and bought me a present with ;)
You and I don't pay 3,000 peso for one shot on goal and leave it at that... So in reality I don't think we overpay at all, if anything for what we do we underpay.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Finally got around to seeing Joan.[/QUOTE]
Great report CS. After seeing your photos, she is better looking then on CL, I wish that I had waited the two hours to meet her:(
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]If you like a real raunchy PSE with a girl who also does a good GFE as well, Joan is the real deal. But get there pretty quickly as she says that she is going to hang up her dildos in a few weeks, when she hopes to open a legitimate business.[/QUOTE]
I wonder how long she will last in a legitimate business? I think as soon as she misses the money she will be back, or maybe use her cell for past contacts.
Robb
[QUOTE=Robbaf]
I wonder how long she will last in a legitimate business? I think as soon as she misses the money she will be back, or maybe use her cell for past contacts.[/QUOTE]
Yes, that is what I thought, particularly as she appears to so thoroughly enjoy her present job. She told me that her foreign boyfriend left her due to her incessant demands for sex, often up to ten times a day. She never mentioned if he went feet first:).
She sure shagged me into submission!
Hi guys, just a quick question off the topic.
I'm intending to come to manila around April to get some dental work done.. i.e. surgical wisdom teeth removal. Apparently the recovery time is around a week for the swelling to go down.
Does anyone know of a good dental hospital? I've contact St. Luke but they're quite expensive (2k US ballpark).
Can anyone suggest a good place to rent for 1-2 weeks? I'm hoping to get in a few days of mongering b4 going into surgery.
Should I get it done, and go to AC to recuperate b/c the accom is cheaper?
I'm thinking of spending around $70 per nite max.
I've RTFF and looked all the accomodation up but I just want to be sure that I'll find a place that has a decent bed, good cable, and acceptable wifi.
Thanks in advance
[QUOTE=Happy Harry]Can anyone suggest a good place to rent for 1-2 weeks? I'm hoping to get in a few days of mongering b4 going into surgery.[/QUOTE]Harry, I would highly recommend Makati Apartelle, [url]www.makatiapartelle.com[/url]. It's in a great part of town and all rooms are 985PHP. It's clean, new-ish, has free wi-fi and great people running it.
[QUOTE=Happy Harry]Hi guys, just a quick question off the topic.
I'm intending to come to manila around April to get some dental work done.. i.e. surgical wisdom teeth removal. Apparently the recovery time is around a week for the swelling to go down.
Does anyone know of a good dental hospital? I've contact St. Luke but they're quite expensive (2k US ballpark).
Can anyone suggest a good place to rent for 1-2 weeks? I'm hoping to get in a few days of mongering b4 going into surgery.
Should I get it done, and go to AC to recuperate b/c the accom is cheaper?
I'm thinking of spending around $70 per nite max.
I've RTFF and looked all the accomodation up but I just want to be sure that I'll find a place that has a decent bed, good cable, and acceptable wifi.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]
If I was you, I would go directly to AC and go to Smile Make Over:)
[url]http://smilemakeoverdentalclinic.com/[/url]
I have been there twice, great prices and great service. You can email them from their website and they respond fast.
Robb
If you end up staying in manila, $70 will cover the hotel, WIFI AND a young lady to keep you company every night if you stay at the executive plaza and pick up at la cafe. I even believe there's a good dentist inside robinsons mall mentioned elsewhere in this thread.
I'll second that. I've had two crowns done there a few years ago about the time Harry the Horse first recommended them on his web site. They have a new, very central location, but when they were at the old place my dentist -- a single woman, whoo, whoo -- drove me in her new smelling Toyota (gas pedal seemed to be working properly) and dropped me off at my hotel. You can have a woman putting her tools into your mouth and then one hour later you can have your tool in a different woman's mouth.
Prices have gone up since I was last there, but still reasonable.
X
[QUOTE=Robbaf]If I was you, I would go directly to AC and go to Smile Make Over:)
[url]http://smilemakeoverdentalclinic.com/[/url]
I have been there twice, great prices and great service. You can email them from their website and they respond fast.
Robb[/QUOTE]
Howdy there, I'm new to the Philippines all together. I wanted to Know if I should come to Manila and stay or go to AC.
And Any simple frister stuff.
Thanks
Thanks a lot guys. I've sent them an email requesting more information. In regards to the accom however, I was hoping to spend a little more. For ST, i would be happy with the one Polyorchid but I'll be cooped up in the damn room for probably 3-4 days so I would want something a little nicer. AC or manila?
Well, it looks like Joan was true to her word.
I will be in Manila soon and contacted her about meeting next weekend, and she told me she is no longer escorting.
She did offer a few of her friends though.
Pity, as after all the great ISG build up, I was really looking forward to seeing her.
Hmmm. What to do. What to do?
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Finally got around to seeing Joan. We met at my preferred ST venue, Eurotel, Pedro Gil and she was very prompt, arriving only 5 minutes later than our mutually agreed time, which is always a good sign, particularly as she lives way out in Cavite.
She looks good enough to eat. She is a tiny wisp of a thing, 22 and only 4 foot 10 and 80 pounds soaking wet. She is very brown skinned and Pinay looking with a little button nose and an astonishingly dirty laugh. Great, tight little body with a cracking butt and the usual tiny little Jolibee tummy. No kids. She has one piercing – her tongue, which she was later to use to remarkably good effect. Her English is excellent – she said she had lost her cherry 2 years before to an English boyfriend …hmmm. An altogether lovely, little spinner.
No wonder she gets absolute rave reviews. As a nympho, this girl leaves even Ana standing at the gate. I pride myself on being able to outstay most Pinay fillies but this girl had me seriously flagging. Good job that she brought a selection of toys with her, including a vibrator and a fucking great black strap-on dildo which looked like it would split her in two. So, whilst I recovered in between shags, we pleasured her with toys. She is genuinely multi-orgasmic and appeared to be getting as much fun as I was.
She will do anything for pleasure except SM (although she loves being doggy spanked, really hard!!). Anal is permitted if your tool is small/medium sized, which negated my chances;). DT is excellent and she really does swallow if you insist, which I, being a gentleman, did not. For such a tiny girl, she loves being given it hard and deep and no whining about it being ‘too beeg’, just a lot of squeaks and genuine moaning.
She is bisexual and has a stable of 4 friends (two 19, one 20 and one 21 year old) who can join her. One is lactating, if that is your thing. If you are really perverted, she also has a LB friend:eek:.
She actually instructs you to bring a camera and take as many shots/videos as possible!
If you like a real raunchy PSE with a girl who also does a good GFE as well, Joan is the real deal. But get there pretty quickly as she says that she is going to hang up her dildos in a few weeks, when she hopes to open a legitimate business.
Posted a few photos in the appropriate place([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=983202&postcount=2445[/url]).[/QUOTE]
Harry, in your case, I'd stay in AC at the Lewis Grand, ABC Hotel, or Pacific Breeze. All are in the $ ballpark you're looking for, and all are pretty decent. The PB is closer to the action on Fields, while the ABC and the LG are both out towards the Perimeter.
[QUOTE=Rusty R]Howdy there, I'm new to the Philippines all together. I wanted to Know if I should come to Manila and stay or go to AC.
And Any simple frister stuff.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Angeles is more purpose-built for mongering, though that used to come at quite a price in boredom for lack of other available activities. Less so now. But getting good results out of the bars takes a surprising amount of work, and it's easy to see why guys tend to hold onto good ones for 2-3 days (or more, but that's its own can of worms). The whole "cherry girl" bit can seem ridiculous, and there's also the age-old problem of being short-timed when they're supposed to stay the night.
Manila, OTOH, can be a jungle in general, and lodging is a worse value than Angeles or certainly Thailand. You get to run a worse gauntlet of beggars, hawkers and con types just to walk around on the streets, but the freelancers are abundant and there are exploration opportunities (shopping/eating/movies/etc.) with much wider choice than Angeles. Malate is also nicely compact in area.
[QUOTE=Ploughman] but the freelancers are abundant [/QUOTE]
Where do they hang out other than LA cafe?
You already have a good report from Ploughman. You'd probably get more replies, more info if you gave basic info about your length of stay/intentions and circumstances / budget, etc. My quick answer would be to do both if you have more than three days. X
[QUOTE=Rusty R]Howdy there, I'm new to the Philippines all together. I wanted to Know if I should come to Manila and stay or go to AC.
And Any simple frister stuff.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
The malls, the streets, the dance clubs, online. See reports about Greenbelt / havana cafe in the Makati section. I once spent the night with an EDSA go go girl and then accidently ran into her the next night at Hard Rock Cafe.
And sometimes it's hard to know the difference between a p4p freelancer and a regular gal who wants some action ...for whatever reason.
[QUOTE=Amjeck]Where do they hang out other than LA cafe?[/QUOTE]
Thanks a lot Guys. I am a 31 year old white male. I willbe there for 8 days and 7 night around the frist week of March. As for cash I planned on about 2G's US fun cash for the trip " thats not for the flight or room" If its AC I have cotacted the Swiss And DP's for a room I am wating to hear Back. I have been playing for years in the states, But for the last year in Japan. I really don't like there way of doing thigs here. This will be my frist real trip here. I am just looking for fun and nice girls. I also don't want to seame like a jack*** while there and couse trouble for the regs. I would like to be come one with a couple of trips a year if this all works out.
[QUOTE=X Man]You already have a good report from Ploughman. You'd probably get more replies, more info if you gave basic info about your length of stay/intentions and circumstances / budget, etc. My quick answer would be to do both if you have more than three days. X[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Travelin Dog]Well, it looks like Joan was true to her word.
I will be in Manila soon and contacted her about meeting next weekend, and she told me she is no longer escorting.
She did offer a few of her friends though.
Pity, as after all the great ISG build up, I was really looking forward to seeing her.
Hmmm. What to do. What to do?[/QUOTE]
Damn CS you broke her:D
Robb
[QUOTE=Travelin Dog]Well, it looks like Joan was true to her word.
[/QUOTE]
I don't believe it! It was only last weekend that I saw her and she told me that she intended putting up the shutters in a few weeks, not a few days.
I suspect business is very brisk and her diary is full, so she fobbed you off.
If true, it is a great loss to PSE mongering in Manila. Especially as Ana has gone international;).
[QUOTE=Ploughman]Angeles is more purpose-built for mongering, though that used to come at quite a price in boredom for lack of other available activities. Less so now. But getting good results out of the bars takes a surprising amount of work, and it's easy to see why guys tend to hold onto good ones for 2-3 days (or more, but that's its own can of worms). The whole "cherry girl" bit can seem ridiculous, and there's also the age-old problem of being short-timed when they're supposed to stay the night.
Manila, OTOH, can be a jungle in general, and lodging is a worse value than Angeles or certainly Thailand. You get to run a worse gauntlet of beggars, hawkers and con types just to walk around on the streets, but the freelancers are abundant and there are exploration opportunities (shopping/eating/movies/etc.) with much wider choice than Angeles. Malate is also nicely compact in area.[/QUOTE]
Off the subject I went with my GF to Mall of asia food court. There is a steak place there with very good steaks. It is very cheap and seems to be good quality. Only drawback is if you take a taxi , mall of asia will cost you a lot but if you take a jeepney it will be very cheap to get there. Imax theater is very good also.
Stayed at Palm plaza hotel , good value,clean for 2300 pesos/night from asiatravel. Next to robinson Mall but I did not like the food court there.
Went couple of times to LA cafe saw couple of cuties but since i was staying with my GF did not partake. Girls usually asked 2000 pesos LT but can be easily brought down to 1500 pesos. All the cute girls I talked to had a baby, slight belly, boobs pushed up by bra. Did not see any stunners at all. looks like the quality is going down from 6 months ago when I was there.
[QUOTE=Sammon]Off the subject I went with my GF to mall Of asia food court. There is a steak place there with very good steaks. .[/QUOTE] I think you are talking about Highlands. There is another steak place in the Mall Of Asia (it is not located in the food court) known as the New Yorker ( I think) and the food is American standard in terms of quality and taste. It is expensive though.
[QUOTE=Sammon]went couple of times to LA cafe saw couple of cuties but since i was staying with my GF did not partake. Girls usually asked 2000 pesos LT but can be easily brought down to 1500 pesos. All the cute girls I talked to had a baby, slight belly, boobs pushed up by bra. Did not see any stunners at all. looks like the quality is going down from 6 months ago when I was there.[/QUOTE]I have not hit LA Cafe since June ... My Manila office girls are riding me to an early grave.
On that note I read on a another forum that the talent at LA Café is down so must be some truth in it. I believe the poster said in a cool way that "All he saw was products way past their expiration date."
[QUOTE=Sammon]
Went couple of times to LA cafe saw couple of cuties but since i was staying with my GF did not partake. Girls usually asked 2000 pesos LT but can be easily brought down to 1500 pesos. All the cute girls I talked to had a baby, slight belly, boobs pushed up by bra. Did not see any stunners at all. looks like the quality is going down from 6 months ago when I was there.[/QUOTE]
I was there a few months ago and agree that most of the talent was undesirable. Way too many mothers and almost all girls smoke(not my thing). There were a few lookers on the top floor, but would only go 2k ST and were mainly looking for koreans.
[QUOTE=Amjeck]I was there a few months ago and agree that most of the talent was undesirable. Way too many mothers and almost all girls smoke(not my thing). There were a few lookers on the top floor, but would only go 2k ST and were mainly looking for koreans.[/QUOTE]I gone to La Cafe last week, yes the nice ones are at the first floor and mostly looking for asian guy (korean or japanese) as they can get more pesos.
But if you are kind and smart, they can accept 1500P for a LT. Avoid the sunday night, not many girls stay there.
I also tried the G point Bar, located close to City state tower hotel, have sometimes some nice freelances.
It sounds like there are a few interesting stories there D'etat. If you find time, please share. I rarely venture into Makati, so I'm not looking for tips or leads. I just want to enjoy some vicarious thrills.
As for LA cafe, it can be truly horrible at times. I'm not a smoker, so that alone can be an unpleasant byproduct of one's search for companionship. But sometimes the stars align.....
X
[QUOTE=Warbucks]
SNIP
I have not hit LA Cafe since June ... My Manila office girls are riding me to an early grave.
On that note I read on a another forum that the talent at LA Café is down so must be some truth in it. I believe the poster said in a cool way that "All he saw was products way past their expiration date."[/QUOTE]
arrived manila thursday and was ready to hit the ground running.
met a regular on thursday shortly after arrival and we decamped to my condo for an evening of fine loving.
ms be is 21, and had clearly undergone an image change with cute short hair, nice culottes (which didn't stay on long!). anyways fun night with several sessions. shes growing to like the vibrator too.
friday morning did some work then went back to mall on friday afternoon for ms tagged. had sent me mesages every day telling me she was nervous and had never met foreign bf before (heard that one million times) etcetc. we met, and she was ok but not a superstar. anyways off to eurotel in pasay road (p640 standard room p800 suite room). for a nervous girl, she wasnt exactly shy. after ten minutes she reveals a nice red and gold bra with matching panties. did the normal and dropped her off 2. 5 hours later. had a shower then headed for mall to meet another lady, this time from dia. she had been dropping hints by sms that "she was so excited to meet me". etcetc. she was ms d.
id only seen one pic of her on dia but looked ok. i was very happy to see a very sweet lady waiting for me, in nice dress, matching shoes, 5ft, 92 pounds with big happy smile. after a minute she takes my arm, after two mins were walking hand in hand like bf/gf. a few drinks, something to eat in bonifacio high street then back to my condo. a gooooood day and a great night.
saturday am and had to do some work, then assumed would be meeting the nurse, a regular visitor from pampanga. sadly, she had some gradution thing with her daughter to handle.
anyways plan be was another dia lady, miss j, who was a former bar girl.
well we get to eurotel and asks me if i had a vibrator. i did and she requested to use it after we had had our jollies. she said my vibrator was significantly better than hers and proved her point with a long squirt. lol.
we return to basement car park in cinema square which is very dark. so for fun i ask if she likes riding topless. she was game and so we drove back to mall with her topless. (i have good tinting!) half way through the ride, she asks to borrow my vibrator again, and there she is with vibrator in her panties, topless in my car as we went down edsa and mckinley. great site to c.
from there a saturday night out. had lots of fun in pussycat, a bar i don't generally go to.
sunday morning and had arranged for miss b(2) from tagged. 36 years old, says hasnt been with a guy for 5 years since husband got himself a new wife. she was a bit rep001ter brained, but cute in a slightly past her best sort of way. went to sogo and she gave a wonderful blow job. p200 taxi fare and that was that.
a cute young 20 year old ms are had been sending me sms all weekend asking to meet. first she wanted to meet me with her mom (no way) then with friends (also no) and finally she said could she come with her sister. i agreed on basis that sis would dissapear.
so having dropped miss be (2) off, met her. 20 but looked 15. sister was 12 i think. gave sis p100 to go buy jollibee and we went for a drive. girl was virgin, never been kissed and i think for sure had never met foreigner before.
we had nice drive, ended up making out in a car park, and maybe one for the future. she sent me sms later stating " would i mind if she gave herself to me". hmmm maybe i wouldn't lol. get to you next time, love.
from there met the orginal miss be for some lunch then home, pack, and flew out. another great but damned tiring weekend.
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[QUOTE=X Man]It sounds like there are a few interesting stories there D'etat. If you find time, please share. I rarely venture into Makati, so I'm not looking for tips or leads. I just want to enjoy some vicarious thrills.
As for LA cafe, it can be truly horrible at times. I'm not a smoker, so that alone can be an unpleasant byproduct of one's search for companionship. But sometimes the stars align.....
X[/QUOTE]X,
The LA cafe have alway be a hit and miss place, I remember the good old days back in 1999 first time there you can get ST for 600 p now most girl want 1500 p and most are not doable at all, just go to AC and forget about manila all together.
Fast Eddie 48
Was in Manila weeks ago, only posting now.
Did a variety of things including Asian Entertainment Club on Roxas road, LA Cafe, Club Havana, and in room hotel massage.
I arrived late but went out anyway with significant jet lag. Got in hotel cab, he wanted to take me to one of the houses. I thought it'd be interesting to see, so went to a house where there were 4 guys working the door, and then a large living room encircled with couches, where about 25 ladies were sitting. I didn't feel comfortable with the scene, so I bailed, driver said Asian Entertainment had the best looking gals, naked dancing. Sounded like Pegasus deal in Bangkok that does a decent job of screening the gals, so I went there. Sure enough, most of the gals on stage were no less than 8's. Mama brought over a gal to sit w me. Just didn't click. One gal looked wild and did an impressive dance, so she came back to hotel w me.
Good time, but she was going to leave in a couple of hours, so I just said to go.
I pick up my best friend at the airport around noon and head for the City State Tower Hotel on Mabini St. The Deluxe rooms aren’t bad for $60 a night…large, clean and roomy. I tried the Standard rooms there last year and wasn’t impressed. Too darn small! Felt like I was in a box. After check-in my friend stops by my room and cracks open a bottle JW Green label he bought at the airport Duty Free store. We do several shots and catch up on old times. Halfway plastered, we decide it’s time to take showers and head out for the evening.
We hit LA Café early before the upstairs area opened. Even then there was a nice selection in the bar already. We sit at the bar and order up some beer. It takes me about two hours before I find a girl I’m interested in…girl #8. My friend takes a little longer, but he finally makes his selection. We ply them with drinks for a while and then head for the door.
The disco wasn’t on my agenda that night, but he was feeling it, so I humored him and went anyway since it was his first night in town. Honestly, I was already tired and wanted to get back to the hotel, shag #8 and get some sleep because we had to catch the bus to Batangas port at 8AM to catch the ferry to Puetro Galera. Off to the disco we went.
Being as tired as I was, dancing for several hours really took it out of me. I knew I wasn’t going to be good for two pops with girl # 8 before check-out in the morning. We got back to the rooms near 2AM. I told my friend the bus left at 8AM so he should pack and be ready, then we parted ways. Girl #8 was first in the shower. I was damn near asleep when she came out. After I showered we did the deed. Not my best performance by a long shot. It was down and dirty because I just wanted to bust a nut and then sleep. She seemed to understand this and was ok with it. Ten minutes max and I was snoring!
My alarm rang early…too damn early. Girl #8 and I took showers; I gave her Peso 1000 and said goodbye. My friend and I checked-out and caught the bus to Batangas Port to catch the ferry to Puerto Galera for our next adventure.
Yella Man
I was upstairs in LA Cafe the other night enjoying the band. Have to admit they are pretty good. After they finished, I found some rapport with a decent looker who seemed like a nice person. Got to the negotiation: she wanted 2500 for ST and would not go lower than 2000. Dang price inflation. I said no thanks.
While I saw lookers downstairs, I usually do not like that scene so I moved up the street to Amazonia. Found a doable one there. She wanted 1500 ST and would not budge. Did I say something about price inflation? The kicker is she offered to do the deed in the Amazonia ST room which I think was going to add another 300 to the damage. No thanks.
By this time, it was late, I was tired and facing an early wake up so I returned without to the hotel.
[QUOTE=Finrod]While I saw lookers downstairs, I usually do not like that scene so I moved up the street to Amazonia. Found a doable one there. She wanted 1500 ST and would not budge. Did I say something about price inflation? The kicker is she offered to do the deed in the Amazonia ST room which I think was going to add another 300 to the damage. No thanks.
By this time, it was late, I was tired and facing an early wake up so I returned without to the hotel.[/QUOTE]You mustn't have been too fussed to have a companion then. 1500 php is a standard price now and the better-looking girls will not go below it.
The rooms at Amazonia are 600 for 3 hours, not 300. (I might stand corrected if you mean rooms without A/c; they might be 300 but they will be VERY warm so I have never had them. Always the 600 room)
Hi
I'm staying in the Lotus Garden. As it'll be my first time in PH and I'm arriving late I want to take the safe option and have a taxi waiting for me at the airport. The hotel wants 1500PHP, which seems a bit expensive. Or maybe not, I don't know. Any better suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
A
Seems on par with what i payed recently. I do not recall what i payed, what you can do is go to information desk at the airport, they will arrange taxi for you.
[QUOTE=Artful]I'm staying in the Lotus Garden. As it'll be my first time in PH and I'm arriving late I want to take the safe option and have a taxi waiting for me at the airport. The hotel wants 1500PHP, which seems a bit expensive. Or maybe not, I don't know. Any better suggestions?[/QUOTE]
That's more then expensive, that's outrageous for a 12 km ride!
There are prepaid taxis available for around 450 php to Ermita.
Or better yet grab a yellow cab, should be no more then 250 php including tip!
Enjoy Manila
[QUOTE=Finrod]I was upstairs in LA Cafe the other night enjoying the band. Have to admit they are pretty good. After they finished, I found some rapport with a decent looker who seemed like a nice person. Got to the negotiation: she wanted 2500 for ST and would not go lower than 2000. Dang price inflation. I said no thanks.
While I saw lookers downstairs, I usually do not like that scene so I moved up the street to Amazonia. Found a doable one there. She wanted 1500 ST and would not budge. Did I say something about price inflation? The kicker is she offered to do the deed in the Amazonia ST room which I think was going to add another 300 to the damage. No thanks.
By this time, it was late, I was tired and facing an early wake up so I returned without to the hotel.[/QUOTE]
Finrod, good report, but I am curious, you would not pay 1500ST in Manila? You must of lived in AC for years. I bet some readers think you are crazy, as they are back home paying $150 to $250 and here you are complaining for
$32.
Robb
[QUOTE=Artful]Hi
I'm staying in the Lotus Garden. As it'll be my first time in PH and I'm arriving late I want to take the safe option and have a taxi waiting for me at the airport. The hotel wants 1500PHP, which seems a bit expensive. Or maybe not, I don't know. Any better suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
A[/QUOTE]
If you are flying into Terminal 1 make sure they tell you where the pick up point is. When you arrive if the hotel isn't allowed on the arrival deck, you will have to walk down the ramp to the arrival area.
For a first visit if they are allowed to pick up at the arrival door, it is a good deal.
Robb
[QUOTE=Robbaf]For a first visit if they are allowed to pick up at the arrival door, it is a good deal.
Robb[/QUOTE]
While the airport taxis have a higher price then most taxi's due to their monopoly I find the new system good, safe, efficient, never waiting more then 1 minute to grab a cab. And they are closer to the doors then the hotel pick up area usually.
Artful... right now (and only recently will I say this), after years of flying through Manila, I would not hesitate to tell folks to take an airport cab. I would not be worried about the airport cab system now.
But then again, when my firms are picking up the bills and paying the bills only and not a per diem heck yes get a hotel car and stiff them with the high costs. ;)
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]... I would not hesitate to tell folks to take an airport cab. I would not be worried about the airport cab system now ...
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I second that! In the past I was also carrying my heavy luggage 300 meters to the main street, just to struggle then with the taxi driver to flag the meter! Too upsetting, too exhausting in the heat of the day and too uncomfortable in the dark! Nowadays I simply do not care to pay about 300 pesos more for a ride to Ermita!
Cheers!
Hesekiels
Artful, don't worry about a hotel car. For about half (700php) an aorport taxi will take you to lotus garden just as quickly and safely.if you want to safe more money, they now allow yellow and white texis into the airport as well and those drivers have lower metered rates AND will help you pick up a cutie on the way to the hotel.
As far as inflation goes, PHP1500ST seems high for amazonia/la cafe. She'd have to be something special (or me especially horny)for me to pay that.it's not about what you pay at home, it's what you get for your money once you get to the land of the LBFM's.
:-)
I grab my luggage and go to the money changing station barely to the left when I am exiting, then grab a couple of hundred USD. Another 50 yards at the most from there in a direct line is the taxi office with fares posted. You have to go into the office. Indeed they are more expensive than other alternatives but at 1:00 a.m. in Manila, I have always had great and safe service. To me its worth the extra 200 or 300 pesos. Eight bucks or less.
Hope to be doing the same routine in about six weeks.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]While the airport taxis have a higher price then most taxi's due to their monopoly I find the new system good, safe, efficient, never waiting more then 1 minute to grab a cab. And they are closer to the doors then the hotel pick up area usually.
Artful... right now (and only recently will I say this), after years of flying through Manila, I would not hesitate to tell folks to take an airport cab. I would not be worried about the airport cab system now.
But then again, when my firms are picking up the bills and paying the bills only and not a per diem heck yes get a hotel car and stiff them with the high costs. ;)[/QUOTE]
I use the airport taxis when flying into Manila on week ends, when our company cars and drivers aren't available. I like the system. It costs me Php330 to go from the airport to Makati. The cabs are clean, efficient and best of all, available immediately. There's no arguing about the fare and no heated discussion about whether or not to use the meter. The price is posted and fixed.
To me, you should just follow the signs for metered taxi or public taxi, can't remember what it is now. You'll see a line of yellow metered taxis and that's what you want. The meter starts at 70 pesos. I figure from there it'll cost around 220 pesos in one of those, and they are clean relatively new cabs. Just make sure the meter is on and reset to 70 from the start. I have had a few try to run scams, where now I totally make sure the meter is on. I always do that when getting a taxi from the street and was not thinking these official airport taxis would try and scam but for awhile I had a bad streak on them. The last two trips, one now, I haven't had any issues, but I"m also watching it. The ride from there isn't going to be very long late at night. I'd say about 15-25 minutes at most.
Just last November, I was pulling FLs for ST for 1000pp in Ermita, though I never ventured into LA Cafe. I found them in Amazonia, Butterfly Bar, Gpoint or that old mall-trolling standby, Robinson's. Guess inflation sure happened right quick... If the going rate really is 1500 now, I can accept that; I didn't want to be someone who contributes to price inflation by paying too much.
[QUOTE=Finrod]Just last November, I was pulling FLs for ST for 1000pp in Ermita, though I never ventured into LA Cafe. I found them in Amazonia, Butterfly Bar, Gpoint or that old mall-trolling standby, Robinson's. Guess inflation sure happened right quick... If the going rate really is 1500 now, I can accept that; I didn't want to be someone who contributes to price inflation by paying too much.[/QUOTE]It all depends on the girl and how much she likes someone and time and all. You don't have to pay 1500 ST at LA Cafe. I think a lot of the girls will be happy with 1000 there even the cute ones downstairs. They want the 1500 but they can also rot there all night. If a cute one refuses to go for 1000, maybe counter with 1200. Price isn't fixed there.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I use the airport taxis when flying into Manila on week ends, when our company cars and drivers aren't available. I like the system. It costs me Php330 to go from the airport to Makati. The cabs are clean, efficient and best of all, available immediately. There's no arguing about the fare and no heated discussion about whether or not to use the meter. The price is posted and fixed.[/QUOTE]
I know where the coupon taxis are in Terminal 2, and I always use them, but where are they located at Terminal 1? I think that is where he is flying in to.
Robb
[QUOTE=Robbaf]I know where the coupon taxis are in Terminal 2, and I always use them, but where are they located at Terminal 1? I think that is where he is flying in to.
Robb[/QUOTE]Yeah I also think we are mixing up the terminals.
NAIA terminal 1 is where I'm talking about going out the doors, hanging a left, grabbing a yellow airport taxi over to Makati.
I do this no hassles now a days at 10 pm or so arrival from Guam flight.
Better yet, don't talk price at all. When she decides to leave, give her 1k. Most accept it, especially if you've been nice and respectful. If they raise a stink, give a little more.
If you're fat, ugly, smelly, or Warbucks, you should give more. X
[QUOTE=Key Master]It all depends on the girl and how much she likes someone and time and all. You don't have to pay 1500 ST at LA Cafe. I think a lot of the girls will be happy with 1000 there even the cute ones downstairs. They want the 1500 but they can also rot there all night. If a cute one refuses to go for 1000, maybe counter with 1200. Price isn't fixed there.[/QUOTE]
Peso is doing well and has been so for really some time now, as in years. The call center people and exporters, are tearing their hair out about the strength of the peso. When you look at your losses for conversion fees. Pays to hold onto cash pesos even if going out of country for many many months.
I usually say to them: "Look, if you are that good in bed I will pay you 1500p." I have found this usually give them an extra incentive.
i went to the edsa entertainment complex last night and i was not impressed.
edsa is sort of like a big barn with 7 or 8 go-go bars in it. when you walk in, the very first thing that happens to you is that a couple touts from the various bars aggressively try to get you into their bar. some of these touts of male…some are female.
the good news is that you can peek into each bar without going in. the bad news is that you can’t walk more than a couple feet without another batch of aggressive touts pestering you to go into their bar.
each bar had girls dancing in bikinis. i did not see any nudity.
i didn’t see any spectacular talent either. i’d say most of the girls were 5’s, 6’s, and 7’s. there were a couple cuties but nothing that really gave me a woodie.
went into the spice (or was it space?) club. when you enter a bar, the hard sell really picks up. several girls immediately swarm on you, asking for lady drinks and to go home with you. sadly, the most aggressive girls seem to be the ugly ones. even after dismissing the first wave of unwelcome women, a second and even third wave of pests attack you.
the girls finally figured out that i didn’t want to be bothered but then another wave of older, ugly women (who double as mama-sans, i think) try to give you a back massage for which they expect to be paid.
i did invite one good looking girl to join me. young, hot body, beautiful face but horrible teeth. bought her a lady drink (195 pesos) and was told that the bar fine was 1,400 and that she wanted 3,000 for st and 5,500 for lt.
screw that.
finished my 120 peso beer and left. as soon as i walked outside, i was swarmed by 3-4 taxi touts all trying to put you into unofficial cabs that no doubt would have tried to gouge anybody stupid enough to go into these unmarked vehicles.
overall, i hated the place and i’ll never set foot in there again. la café is the place for me.
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After deciding that the EDSA Entertainment Complex was a waste of time, I went to the Havana Café in Greenbelt 3 (Makati area).
First of all, I have read several reports that said that you could score some pussy at Café Havana and/or Starbucks at any time of the day. However, I did not find any freelancers working either place (which are next to each other) during the daylight hours. There are lots of young, pretty girls there but none of them were giving me the ‘lets-do-some-business’ look.
It is quite a different story in the evening after the music starts up. I arrived around 1:00 AM and the place was jumping with poontang.
There were two groups of women for the taking. The first group is inside Café Havana dancing by themselves. All you have to do is shuffle over to the cutie of your choice and start dancing with her. The ladies will smile at you if they are interested. Easy but you have to approach them.
The second group of chickies was sitting at the outdoor tables, usually in group of 2-4. Like on the dance floor, they will shoot you the I-want-to-fuck-you look and you have to make the move to their table.
I ended up with a young cutie that was actually offended the next morning when I offered her some money. “Just give me cab fare. I’m not a hooker.”
Café Havana has a nice mix of both P4P girls and some regular girls just looking for some foreign sausage.
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We have a condo in Manila that we do not want to sell but want to RENT. We want to keep it for long term and are looking for some top rental agencies. We were advised of [url]http://www.asahi.ph/eng/[/url] Anyone have experience with any other firm. Like what are the top five real estate leasing offices...
I ended up with a young cutie that was actually offended the next morning when I offered her some money. “Just give me cab fare. I’m not a hooker.”
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If she is a regular girl, then why ask for cab fair? I think she probabaly likes you and want to play the innocent game and see what develops.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]We have a condo in Manila that we do not want to sell but want to RENT. We want to keep it for long term and are looking for some top rental agencies. We were advised of [url]http://www.asahi.ph/eng/[/url] Anyone have experience with any other firm. Like what are the top five real estate leasing offices...[/QUOTE]
Have a look at [url]http://www.pearlslettingagency.com/[/url]. With so many new condo developments springing up everywhere, there seems to be a shortage of reputable letting agencies. Has to be an opportunity there for an aspiring entrepreneur.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Has to be an opportunity there for an aspiring entrepreneur.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, yes we are having some issues. With most our work moving to other countries it is cheaper to stay in a hotel then maintain the condo but we don't want to sell it. So we want to lease it out long term but keep possession of it on our financials and for future use.
So finding a firm that will manage, maintain, ensure proper upkeep etc... is providing interesting...
I had only two nights in Manila, found Exec Plaza acceptable. Took girls on two occasions from LA Cafe (1200 and 1500) and once from G-PLace (1000). All three gave excellent GFE.
When you get there, try to get your bearings by wandering around if it is daytime (or same night time if you are more confident about staying safe). There is a mass of helpful info on here as well as other sites, but some of it is secondhand, hard to follow, or simply incorrect (maybe posted after a few beers ?) If people living there feel kind and so inclined, careful info which when you read it back and would be easy to follow if you are new would be very helpful.
Regards
Just cruised by the Cafe Havana (and Starbucks) at 6:00 on a Friday night. Lots of people buy mainly couples and groups. I didn't see very many unescorted women and none of them flashed the I-want-to-fuck-you smile to me.
Conclusion: Cafe Havana is great but not until 10 or 11.
[QUOTE=Minuteman]
I ended up with a young cutie that was actually offended the next morning when I offered her some money. “Just give me cab fare. I’m not a hooker.”
[/QUOTE]
Some working girls are willing to go great lengths to maintain the image of a 'good girl'. These would never openly admit they are expecting money, no matter how much you pressure. Its possible that the money was presented in a way that offered her no avenue to maintain her 'good girl' image if she accepted.
I know a few seasonal free lancers (with normal day jobs) who would forego good money for this reason. For them, "saving face" is much more important than accepting a direct offer of money. But they would be secretly disappointed.
Its usually a good idea to just step up, slip money into her purse and simply call it 'taxi fare', or 'payment for the baby sitter'.
Gumby.
[QUOTE=Happy Harry]Hi guys, just a quick question off the topic.
I'm intending to come to manila around April to get some dental work done.. i.e. surgical wisdom teeth removal. Apparently the recovery time is around a week for the swelling to go down.
Does anyone know of a good dental hospital? I've contact St. Luke but they're quite expensive (2k US ballpark).
Can anyone suggest a good place to rent for 1-2 weeks? I'm hoping to get in a few days of mongering b4 going into surgery.
Should I get it done, and go to AC to recuperate b/c the accom is cheaper?
I'm thinking of spending around $70 per nite max.
I've RTFF and looked all the accomodation up but I just want to be sure that I'll find a place that has a decent bed, good cable, and acceptable wifi.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]
I just had this done in Manila, paid $1200 for all four at a dentist in Makati. I overpaid for sure since he has a fancy website and caters to celebs and foreigners. Don't worry about the recovery if you go to a good dentist. I actually hooked up with a girl the same night as my procedure.
Spent about two weeks in PI as my first visit. First want to thank Freebiefan and Ploughman for meeting up with me and giving me some good advice/tips. I only ended up doing one pro and stuck with DIA and waitress/mall worker types. I'm the guy Freebiefan mentioned meeting and having difficulti with DIA girls. Well with trial and error and some tips from him things started rolling the next day to the point where I sent home two girls after meeting because the looks just weren't up to par compared to photos. I was very straightforward in my DIA profile about not looking for a wife, no webcam, no sending money, etc and just flat out said wanted to meet girls for fun during my visit. To anyone who responded I asked for phone number and no further conversations on DIA. After that it was all texts, when I checked the counter on the phone at he end of the trip the count was well over 1300. Ridiculous actually. I think the best advice I got from Freebiefan on DIA girls is how to deal with the cousin/friend/whatever that all girls seem to want to bring the first time. At first I was saying no and this was getting me nowhere. But I adopted his strategy and allowed them to bring one. I would then treat them to some cheap lunch or whatever with the condition that I will get alone time afterwards. So after playing niceguy during lunch the chaperon happily leaves and I got what I wanted. With the waitress/mall worker type girls the key was never saying that I was a tourist. This got me nowhere also. I only had success when I lied about having business interests in Manila and thus frequent visits. Also I always pushed for same day after work dates as future dates were iffy. And no i did not have to dress in dress shirts and pants, polo shirts and shorts were just fine for this purpose. In the end I hooked up with 7 plus rejected 2 in about 12 days.
The one pro I had was from Gpoint. Ploughman pointed out things like expensive looking purse and such as bad signs but I went for it anyway sice she had the exact bodytype that I like. She had shown us her passport and had visas from countries like Austraila, Denmark and China. Turned out she had three suckers sending her money but was still turning tricks due to shopping habits. She showed me her two shopping bags which she brought to the bar and she had dropped about 5-6k. It was funny to listen to her phone convo with one of the suckers while in the cab to my hotel. After we were done (and I grossly overpaid at 4500k for about 5 hrs and three pops including swallow and anal attempt) she told me she routinely gets 10k in Makati and once got 20k. I have no idea if that's true but if so some people are nuts.
[QUOTE=Gumby2004]Some working girls are willing to go great lengths to maintain the image of a 'good girl'. These would never openly admit they are expecting money, no matter how much you pressure. Its possible that the money was presented in a way that offered her no avenue to maintain her 'good girl' image if she accepted.
I know a few seasonal free lancers (with normal day jobs) who would forego good money for this reason. For them, "saving face" is much more important than accepting a direct offer of money. But they would be secretly disappointed.
Its usually a good idea to just step up, slip money into her purse and simply call it 'taxi fare', or 'payment for the baby sitter'.
Gumby.[/QUOTE]
Good advice! I give then load, taxi and whatever as I tell them that I don't want to put them out. Again pay them to leave! If you are not paying, be careful as they may think that you are their boyfriend and give you all the drama you can handle.
Robb
[QUOTE=Toronto]I just had this done in Manila, paid $1200 for all four at a dentist in Makati. I overpaid for sure since he has a fancy website and caters to celebs and foreigners. Don't worry about the recovery if you go to a good dentist. I actually hooked up with a girl the same night as my procedure.[/QUOTE]
I live in Manila but I’ve learned from bitter experience that the quality of dental care available in The Philippines is patchy at best. Not to say good dentists are not available but they are rare and reflect this in their high charges.
I always wait until I visit Thailand to get my dental repairs done. Quality and standards are much more uniformly high. I’m in Chiang Mai at the moment and have just completed a third lengthy and arduous session in the chair. Two crown replacements (botched Filipino work), 5 new veneers, some root canal work and various other bits and pieces. Total cost – $600.
All performed by a gorgeous doll of a lady dentist and her tasty assistant to take my mind off the discomfort. Was almost like fun – well almost;). Boots sure on the other foot having a young Thai bint putting her tools in my mouth:D.
True enough, but there are notable exceptions. I've got a dentist in Davao who belongs to the American Dental Association, worked for 15 years in Qatar, and is as good as any dentist I've been to in the US or France, and at prices that are maybe a third of what I would pay in those countries. There truly are some excellent dentists here, if you look hard enough.
GE
[QUOTE=Minuteman]Just cruised by the Cafe Havana (and Starbucks) at 6:00 on a Friday night. Lots of people buy mainly couples and groups. I didn't see very many unescorted women and none of them flashed the I-want-to-fuck-you smile to me.
Conclusion: Cafe Havana is great but not until 10 or 11.[/QUOTE]
I've only seen older (26-35 yo's) ladies at Havana who aren't all that, but think they are.
Went to LA Café at 4AM tonight after loosing big at the casino (fucking koreans and their luck when playing poker).
Anyway what a nightmare, so I decided to pick up to end up the night properly.
LA Café is still packed at 4AM, too bad there are only left overs in the place, and trust me there are LOTS of leftovers. Only girls 5 or below!
Horny as I was I decided to call it a (shitty) night and went back to makati to sleep.
Where can one pick up decent gals at late time?
For last four years every time I'm in Manila she is my go to girl. Very beautiful bi-sexual 20 yr old soft shy and very accommodating. Others on ISG know her and can vouch for her including Wicked Roger. She has asked me to help her out as things are slow at the massage parlour where she works and she is trying to save for college. A big bonus my last time with her is her young gf lover. Virgin but very sexual. You can watch them together or join in. Lots of very wet pussy from them both. Please ask me for her contact. Reasonable prices. No hassle very lovable girl. She prefers caucasian foreigners visiting Manila.
AW
[QUOTE=Amjeck]I've only seen older (26-35 yo's) ladies at Havana who aren't all that, but think they are.[/QUOTE]
I'd say that in general is true, but there are good nights there, but it's hard to tell when it's going to happen. You take your chances when you go there, but have seen some really good looking younger women there and some hot mid late 20's women there too.
[QUOTE=Asian Western]For last four years every time I'm in Manila she is my go to girl. Very beautiful bi-sexual 20 yr old soft shy and very accommodating. Others on ISG know her and can vouch for her including Wicked Roger. She has asked me to help her out as things are slow at the massage parlour where she works and she is trying to save for college. A big bonus my last time with her is her young gf lover. Virgin but very sexual. You can watch them together or join in. Lots of very wet pussy from them both. Please ask me for her contact. Reasonable prices. No hassle very lovable girl. She prefers caucasian foreigners visiting Manila.
AW[/QUOTE]
20 years old....four years you have her...she was 16 then....a child.
I know this is the WSG....but that is child abuse in most countries....
Most countries..one would be in prison I would think...what is the age of consent here? And what can the age difference be? Meaning...a 16 year old can legally be fucked by someone over 18?
[QUOTE=Asian Western]For last four years every time I'm in Manila she is my go to girl. Very beautiful bi-sexual 20 yr old soft shy and very accommodating. Others on ISG know her and can vouch for her including Wicked Roger. She has asked me to help her out as things are slow at the massage parlour where she works and she is trying to save for college. A big bonus my last time with her is her young gf lover. Virgin but very sexual. You can watch them together or join in. Lots of very wet pussy from them both. Please ask me for her contact. Reasonable prices. No hassle very lovable girl. She prefers caucasian foreigners visiting Manila.
AW[/QUOTE]
Hi AW
Long time. Yes she is lovely, and recently she told me she quit the massage place as work so slow and she could better on CL, asked me to help her write the CL listing. Which I will this week unless you have done so already :)
She does prefer 'white' guys only, she has had plenty Korean and Japanese men in the parlour and while quick and easy money (she said they never lasted more than 5 minutes) she prefers respectful older white guys...well respectful but kinky as well (in my case for sure :D).
If you are in Manila soon AW email me. See you soon
[QUOTE=Jack Sheet]Yes, ever since local resident Warbucks stopped posting regularly it's difficult to get accurate information. It seems quite often we are stuck with guys living in Japan, visiting maybe once per year but in spite of that have to post thousands of times with endless obscure questions such as:[/QUOTE]JS what's good? I am still around just lurking. I will chime in if I see guys like Laylow about to make a huge mistake in life. Or if I see guys like Laylow thinking some of these board members are sheep when they are wolves. After 1000 post you start repeating yourself. How many times have we posted about the dentist, don't trust the locals etc and the present topic brought up by Ben2?
The board is lucky though to have entertaining guys posting about gay security guards, deranged, impoverished nude locals walking the street, rants about black guys dicks, one guy posted about his sandaled feet being mopped by mall janitors and regularly posts about his son's popularity in a third world country as if that is a stunning achievement. "HE IS VIP!"
[QUOTE=Ben2]20 years old....four years you have her...she was 16 then....a child.
I know this is the WSG....but that is child abuse in most countries....
Most countries..one would be in prison I would think...what is the age of consent here? And what can the age difference be? Meaning...a 16 year old can legally be fucked by someone over 18?[/QUOTE]Hello Ben,
Every so often guys pop on this forum asking questions like what is the age of consent and all this shit. In my opinion these guys are after kids but they don't want to break the law. I am surprised how the board regularly gives these guys a pass and don't chastise them for it. It seems to be condoned. These guys have more important stuff to post like how much Warbucks sucks and snickering about my car breaking down due to audio additions and shoddy work from the locals. Again great group here.
Did a quick search of google and this was all I could come up with.
[url]http://www.interpol.int/Public/Children/SexualAbuse/NationalLaws/csaPhilippines.pdf[/url]
This information is up to date as of September 2006
I. Ages for legal purposes
Age of simple majority
18 years old
Age of consent for sexual activity
18 years old
Age of consent for marriage
18 years old.
[url]http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/JE31Df03.html[/url]
In the Philippines, the consensual age of 12 applies to males and females alike. But sex with a person under 18 is an offense if, like in Japan, the minor's consent has stemmed from prostitution or coercion. Simply put, the Philippines and Japan fall into a 12 to 18 age bracket for sexual consent, depending on the nature of the sexual relationship.
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Anyone have any more first hand info in this place? It sounded interesting but I could only find one report (which was quite glowing) and no exact location details (it's a long road). Also a bit of a hike.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]True enough, but there are notable exceptions. I've got a dentist in Davao who belongs to the American Dental Association, worked for 15 years in Qatar, and is as good as any dentist I've been to in the US or France, and at prices that are maybe a third of what I would pay in those countries. There truly are some excellent dentists here, if you look hard enough.
GE[/QUOTE]
My one and only dental experience in the Philippines was excellent. I wrote about it here or perhaps on WSG. About three years ago I had just arrived for my first visit to the Phils. It was to be five months. I'd left the states overdue for cleaning, and one of my dentist's hygienists -- part of a slick operation run a lot like a Goodyear tire shop -- insisted I had a cracked filling that called for a cap, which was going to set me back $600, even with insurance.
Within a few days of settling into an apartment building in Quezon City I noticed signboards for dentists on both the second and third floors. So I checked with the second floor shop: closed. Then I went to the third floor, and that shop was open. They told me I could get in for cleaning and xrays the next morning. I asked how much: 750 pesos for everything, about $15. The female dentist did the work, aided by an employee who handed her tools and also handled the appointment book, money, records, and so on. The dentist had done advanced study in the U.S. and had shared a practice for two years in San Diego with her sister. After reading the xrays she told me a cap was not needed; she could drill out the old filling and refill it.
Two days later I was in the chair again. The dentist gave me a smooth, virtually indistinguishable porcelain filling. Cost? 1600 pesos, $32. A far cry from the $600 cap that my old dentist's office was trying to sell me. And I have decided that "trying to sell me" is the correct metaphor here. Like Goodyear, Firestone and similar shops in the U.S. who always want to sell new radiator hoses to unsuspecting women motorists -- whose hoses they've accidentally on purpose cut with a knife while the car owner is out of sight.
My new dentist back in the states has admired the filling every time I am in for a cleaning and checkup. I only regret not taking my Quezon City dentist up on her offer to bleach my teeth.
I may still have contact information among my papers, assuming she's still in the same location.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost]Within a few days of settling into an apartment building in Quezon City I noticed signboards for dentists on both the second and third floors. So I checked with the second floor shop: closed. Then I went to the third floor, and that shop was open.[/QUOTE]
That sounds like Garden Heights across from St. Lukes. Many doctors have offices on those floors as side practices. I have a few doc's I visit there and my ex step mom in law is a nurse who lives in the building.
Great place to do your one stop doctor shopping for all sorts of things. My dermatologist and a few others are located there and my last visit cost about 8 USD. However I get my bloodwork done at Makati Medical open 24 hours.
For dentistry I'd still visit BKK I guess but some joints in PI are not far behind. Also helps that I know a lot of girls from QC...
But I'm still looking for a 24 hour bloodwork joint that will email results...
[quote=ben2]20 years old....four years you have her...she was 16 then....a child.
i know this is the wsg....but that is child abuse in most countries....
most countries..one would be in prison i would think...what is the age of consent here? and what can the age difference be? meaning...a 16 year old can legally be fucked by someone over 18?[/quote]
it may be nitpicking, but the appropriate word to use is ****, not child. a 16 year old is hardly a child. symantecs perhaps, but important nonetheless. we also dont know the relationship either. he may not have been f***ing her at that age.
[quote=blackangst]it may be nitpicking, but the appropriate word to use is ****, not child. a 16 year old is hardly a child. symantecs perhaps, but important nonetheless. we also dont know the relationship either. he may not have been f***ing her at that age.[/quote]
we've been through this many time, and the isg rules are any posts about **** sex is strictly prohibited. the original post leads people to believe, it was worded that people believe the relationship started **** without coming out and saying it. if the relationship started at 20 then fine or whatever. my english sucks as it is not my main language so maybe there are mistakes in the original post.
i know many guys get hooked into a girl who says she is 18 who is not really 18 and it is an honest mistake. however... if a guy knowingly and actively targets relationships or needs to get his jollies off on a child because he can't get off on a lady of age then at least i find that offensive. more importantly it violates the rules of the board.
i would assume that the majority of this board is over 40 years old and if any of us need to target children that age then there are some sick mother fuckers out there. you can't wait till they turn 18 at least? i know many filipina's start fucking at 14 but so what... they are kids / children.
play all the symantic games you want, under 18 is off limits on this board.
[QUOTE=Ben2]20 years old....four years you have her...she was 16 then....a child.
I know this is the WSG....but that is child abuse in most countries....
Most countries..one would be in prison I would think...what is the age of consent here? And what can the age difference be? Meaning...a 16 year old can legally be fucked by someone over 18?[/QUOTE]Yes sounds bad Ben, but in early days she came with an older friend and there was no fucking. / AW
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Hi AW
Long time. Yes she is lovely, and recently she told me she quit the massage place as work so slow and she could better on CL, asked me to help her write the CL listing. Which I will this week unless you have done so already :)
She does prefer 'white' guys only, she has had plenty Korean and Japanese men in the parlour and while quick and easy money (she said they never lasted more than 5 minutes) she prefers respectful older white guys...well respectful but kinky as well (in my case for sure :D).
If you are in Manila soon AW email me. See you soon[/QUOTE]Thanks for your support Roger go ahead with your help. Will likely be Manila in April. Cheers / AW
[QUOTE=Toronto]I just had this done in Manila, paid $1200 for all four at a dentist in Makati. I overpaid for sure since he has a fancy website and caters to celebs and foreigners. Don't worry about the recovery if you go to a good dentist. I actually hooked up with a girl the same night as my procedure.[/QUOTE]I have two good dentist in angeles city. I have several girlfriends and I take them for regular check ups and dental work. Also after being in Thailand I have dental work done by the one. She is right next to voodoo on fields avenue, do not remember the name but I am really bad at remembering names. I can go by and get her address and phone number.
She is very pleasant to me even when I bring in, (especially) several girls at a time.
A weakness I have with girls is that if they stay with me for awhile I get them dental and medical check ups. I usually do not tip them. To me this is a better way to give them extra money I make sure it goes to something that will help them more long term.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]That sounds like Garden Heights across from St. Lukes. Many doctors have offices on those floors as side practices. I have a few doc's I visit there and my ex step mom in law is a nurse who lives in the building. Great place to do your one stop doctor shopping for all sorts of things.[/QUOTE]
My dentist was in a building near Ateneo that is primarily residences with offices on the first three floors. But I have been to the medical office building situated between St. Luke's and Rodriguez Avenue, and my recollection matches this description you give for Garden Heights. I would imagine this is a good place to shop for a competent dentist.
Hello, All- First let me say that I've been a LONG time reader of this site, and a subscriber twice now. I find this site to be an amazing source of information for travelers, not just with sexual related stuff but with normal day to day stuff. I used the information gleaned from various posts as a basis for my first trip to the Phils from here in Japan (I'm American) and I had a very good time.
Its now time for my 2nd trip and this time I'm taking my best friend with me, who has to suffer through all my stories over the last year and a half. The first trip, I met a girl from online who met me at the airport (mistake #1) and then stayed with me for the first half of it before I finally had to get rid of her. She was gorgeous and all, but man she was a horrible lay and just not any fun to be with. So I was stuck with her.
That brings me to my question for you great folks. We will be landing in manila to start with, and then spending the next 3 weeks hopping around. Bora, palawan and Bohol probably, all which are places that we'll need to bring our own. And thats my concern. I liked having the girl with me last time, only if she had been more fun. And plus, I'll have my friend with me this time. So, if Id like to bring my own talent to these places, AND I'm looking for a 9 and above, do you all have a recommended method? I think my options are to use the various DIA like sites to score a few that will be in the waiting, and meet each of them over the first few days and pick one. Or to grab a willing BG from AC or the likes. Both situations have their advantages and disadvantages. One is considerably cheaper, but comes with the clinging. Etc.
I'm by no means above taking a BG girl with me if shes #1 HOT, and #2 fun as hell. But I'm not sure what is the best option.
Thanks everyone for taking the time to read my ramblings. I look forward to hearing any opinions!
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Finally got around to seeing Joan. We met at my preferred ST venue, Eurotel, Pedro Gil and she was very prompt, arriving only 5 minutes later than our mutually agreed time, which is always a good sign, particularly as she lives way out in Cavite.
She looks good enough to eat. She is a tiny wisp of a thing, 22 and only 4 foot 10 and 80 pounds soaking wet. She is very brown skinned and Pinay looking with a little button nose and an astonishingly dirty laugh. Great, tight little body with a cracking butt and the usual tiny little Jolibee tummy. No kids. She has one piercing – her tongue, which she was later to use to remarkably good effect. Her English is excellent – she said she had lost her cherry 2 years before to an English boyfriend …hmmm. An altogether lovely, little spinner.
No wonder she gets absolute rave reviews. As a nympho, this girl leaves even Ana standing at the gate. I pride myself on being able to outstay most Pinay fillies but this girl had me seriously flagging. Good job that she brought a selection of toys with her, including a vibrator and a fucking great black strap-on dildo which looked like it would split her in two. So, whilst I recovered in between shags, we pleasured her with toys. She is genuinely multi-orgasmic and appeared to be getting as much fun as I was.
She will do anything for pleasure except SM (although she loves being doggy spanked, really hard!!). Anal is permitted if your tool is small/medium sized, which negated my chances;). DT is excellent and she really does swallow if you insist, which I, being a gentleman, did not. For such a tiny girl, she loves being given it hard and deep and no whining about it being ‘too beeg’, just a lot of squeaks and genuine moaning.
She is bisexual and has a stable of 4 friends (two 19, one 20 and one 21 year old) who can join her. One is lactating, if that is your thing. If you are really perverted, she also has a LB friend:eek:.
She actually instructs you to bring a camera and take as many shots/videos as possible!
If you like a real raunchy PSE with a girl who also does a good GFE as well, Joan is the real deal. But get there pretty quickly as she says that she is going to hang up her dildos in a few weeks, when she hopes to open a legitimate business.
Posted a few photos in the appropriate place([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=983202&postcount=2445[/url]).[/QUOTE]I envy you, and you are right. I am going to Manila in May and just got an email saying that she will no longer do escorts. What a shame, because I was really looking forward to doing her.
[QUOTE=James Oh James]
That brings me to my question for you great folks. We will be landing in manila to start with, and then spending the next 3 weeks hopping around. Bora, palawan and Bohol probably, all which are places that we'll need to bring our own. And thats my concern. I liked having the girl with me last time, only if she had been more fun. And plus, I'll have my friend with me this time. So, if Id like to bring my own talent to these places, AND I'm looking for a 9 and above, do you all have a recommended method? I think my options are to use the various DIA like sites to score a few that will be in the waiting, and meet each of them over the first few days and pick one. Or to grab a willing BG from AC or the likes. Both situations have their advantages and disadvantages. One is considerably cheaper, but comes with the clinging. Etc.
I'm by no means above taking a BG girl with me if shes #1 HOT, and #2 fun as hell. But I'm not sure what is the best option.
Thanks everyone for taking the time to read my ramblings. I look forward to hearing any opinions!
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Those are some big trips. It may seem simple to just find a girl and take her, but to me it's not that easy. It's easy to be with someone for short periods of time like at night and all. But when it's 24 hours for days on, it could be problematic if you choose wrong. May not be helping, just suggesting you choose really wisely. It may be easier if you had some past girls who were reliable and worthy to be able to make such trips. It may also be hard to take a girl out of her work for so long unless maybe she is a bar girl. I had one girl I'd taken many times before change so much as I took her away, it became awful. Maybe just bad luck or decision making on my part.
[QUOTE=Key Master]Those are some big trips. It may seem simple to just find a girl and take her, but to me it's not that easy. It's easy to be with someone for short periods of time like at night and all. But when it's 24 hours for days on, it could be problematic if you choose wrong. May not be helping, just suggesting you choose really wisely. It may be easier if you had some past girls who were reliable and worthy to be able to make such trips. It may also be hard to take a girl out of her work for so long unless maybe she is a bar girl. I had one girl I'd taken many times before change so much as I took her away, it became awful. Maybe just bad luck or decision making on my part.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry guys, but the girls you're getting are somewhat the (d class). I could recommend you some if you want. I'm a Filipino so I really know where to find girls with quality unlike the one you're posting here.
[QUOTE=Key Master]Those are some big trips. It may seem simple to just find a girl and take her, but to me it's not that easy. It's easy to be with someone for short periods of time like at night and all. But when it's 24 hours for days on, it could be problematic if you choose wrong. May not be helping, just suggesting you choose really wisely. It may be easier if you had some past girls who were reliable and worthy to be able to make such trips. It may also be hard to take a girl out of her work for so long unless maybe she is a bar girl. I had one girl I'd taken many times before change so much as I took her away, it became awful. Maybe just bad luck or decision making on my part.[/QUOTE]
When I tried to take a DIA girl on my trip it wasn't just the missing work but also having to explain to her family. I think this takes some advance planning.
[QUOTE=James Oh James]Hello, All- First let me say that I've been a LONG time reader of this site, and a subscriber twice now. I find this site to be an amazing source of information for travelers, not just with sexual related stuff but with normal day to day stuff. I used the information gleaned from various posts as a basis for my first trip to the Phils from here in Japan (I'm American) and I had a very good time.
Its now time for my 2nd trip and this time I'm taking my best friend with me, who has to suffer through all my stories over the last year and a half. The first trip, I met a girl from online who met me at the airport (mistake #1) and then stayed with me for the first half of it before I finally had to get rid of her. She was gorgeous and all, but man she was a horrible lay and just not any fun to be with. So I was stuck with her.
That brings me to my question for you great folks. We will be landing in manila to start with, and then spending the next 3 weeks hopping around. Bora, palawan and Bohol probably, all which are places that we'll need to bring our own. And thats my concern. I liked having the girl with me last time, only if she had been more fun. And plus, I'll have my friend with me this time. So, if Id like to bring my own talent to these places, AND I'm looking for a 9 and above, do you all have a recommended method? I think my options are to use the various DIA like sites to score a few that will be in the waiting, and meet each of them over the first few days and pick one. Or to grab a willing BG from AC or the likes. Both situations have their advantages and disadvantages. One is considerably cheaper, but comes with the clinging. Etc.
I'm by no means above taking a BG girl with me if shes #1 HOT, and #2 fun as hell. But I'm not sure what is the best option.
Thanks everyone for taking the time to read my ramblings. I look forward to hearing any opinions!
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Best option for you will be a test run in Manila to see if you get the right girl. Georgeous does not mean good lay and good company. For a eye candy , yes. As a tourist you need not worry about a eye candy.
For a long trip like this your best option is a bargirl who knows what she has to do. With DIA girls there are problems about taking off from their jobs, explaining to the people she lives with, if unlimited sex is not her thing etc. A bargirl knows she has to give sex on demand.
Most of the girls are not going to be like a GF and not used to the high lifestyle. May not be interested in scuba, snorkeling, pool, beach etc that you planned to do. Also remember these girls complain about being cold all the time. Even they do not like air-con let alone the beach stroll in the evening. They are quite happy staying in bed and watching TV and letting you do your thing. I had a young GF from Leyte I took on trips although she was very good in sex and good company , did not like any of beach activities including open air restaurents.
[QUOTE=James Oh James]
That brings me to my question for you great folks. We will be landing in manila to start with, and then spending the next 3 weeks hopping around. Bora, palawan and Bohol probably, all which are places that we'll need to bring our own.[/QUOTE]James,
I think you are on the right track so far. I think you have a lot of work to do before hand trying to find the right girl on the internet. I would line up 3-5 for meetings once you arrive in manila. Also i would be out in the bars at night, like LA Cafe, Havana Cafe, EDSA and Burgos looking for the right one.
Also, the places you are travelling to are pretty easy to get to and any girl would give her left arm to go to any of them. So maybe you take your number one choice and if you get sick of her, send her home and call in another!
[quote=tansak ktv]we've been through this many time, and the isg rules are any posts about **** sex is strictly prohibited. the original post leads people to believe, it was worded that people believe the relationship started **** without coming out and saying it. if the relationship started at 20 then fine or whatever. my english sucks as it is not my main language so maybe there are mistakes in the original post.
i know many guys get hooked into a girl who says she is 18 who is not really 18 and it is an honest mistake. however... if a guy knowingly and actively targets relationships or needs to get his jollies off on a child because he can't get off on a lady of age then at least i find that offensive. more importantly it violates the rules of the board.
i would assume that the majority of this board is over 40 years old and if any of us need to target children that age then there are some sick mother fuckers out there. you can't wait till they turn 18 at least
]
fair enough.i think youre confusing two very different and seperate issues, but whatever. i also dont think anyone, much less the op, is advocating **** sex. so chill the fuck out man. we all know the rules here.
considering the legal age of consent in the philippines is around 12, and in many u.s. states at 16 and as low as 14, be clear when you say "****".
are you talking 11 and below, or 16? or anything below 18, of which is not really "under".
Chapter 1
Well, my first time in Manila and I just had to check out the LA Cafe. Hooked up with 3 young spinner roommates and took 2 of them back to the hotel. The dark one had more experience and helped the shy, light one along.
We 3 showered together and soon we were off to the races with double BJs, double doggys and double pops. Actually, became a one woman pop for the second round, see Chapter 2. I'm exhausted but going back for more.
Cost: 3000p for ST
Enjoy the pics.
Chapter 2
There was actually a "connection" with the shy lighter one and I had to see her again. We saw each other a few more times and it became a total GFE, with daily min. Of two pops plus more.
I'll probably see her again but we both are keeping things in perspective.
[quote=sopwith]considering the legal age of consent in the philippines is around 12, and in many u.s. states at 16 and as low as 14, be clear when you say "****".
are you talking 11 and below, or 16? or anything below 18, of which is not really "under".[/quote]
incorrect. age of consent in the phils is 15. if prostitution is involved, **** is under 18. this law is the source of **** scams where a girl and her **** sister will team up with cops to tag an unwitting monger for the big payoff.
almost all us states will prosecute for under 18 now if the man is a lot older. it's called statutory [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. look it up.
**** per isg rules is under 18.
[quote=sopwith]considering the legal age of consent in the philippines is around 12, and in many u.s. states at 16 and as low as 14, be clear when you say "****".
are you talking 11 and below, or 16? or anything below 18, of which is not really "under".[/quote]
given the ages of most mongers on this board, the effective aoc in the states is 18. not as you stated. you need to read the fine print ;) as far as the philippines aoc...im not going to comment.
[QUOTE=Blackangst]Given the ages of most mongers on this board, the effective AOC in the states is 18. Not as you stated. You need to read the fine print ;) As far as the Philippines AOC...Im not going to comment.[/QUOTE]That is odd, considering States where the legal age of consent is 16, it says nothing about that the age is higher based upon the advanced age of the male.
[QUOTE=Sopwith]That is odd, considering States where the legal age of consent is 16, it says nothing about that the age is higher based upon the advanced age of the male.[/QUOTE]
Youre right...my bad. I hadnt looked at AOC laws in awhile. Looks like about half the states with AOC of 16 have age requirements. Also, looks like AOC for travelling Americans is either local AOC or 16, whichever is higher.
I find myself coming to Makati for the umpteenth time in a couple days time for half a week and want to do something different. Other than the business district and Greenbelt I'm very familiar with P Burgos and have been to Edsa Entertainment Complex a few time. LA Cafe is the same type of pick up joint everywhere in Asia.
I am tired of the same old scene. Can someone recommend something different for action in Manila. Are any of the places in Malate any good or different? What about places in Ermita? Is the system and pricing the same as either Burgos (high) or Edsa (cheap). Also how safe are these places for westerners.
Looking at [url]http://www.burgos-street.com/ermita.php[/url] does not really give me a feel if the places are much different than Burgos or Edsa?
Or are there any places that are any different than the standard gogo or massage joint. Like places to have a big orgy or something.
[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]I find myself coming to Makati and want to do something different.
Or are there any places that are any different than the standard gogo or massage joint. Like places to have a big orgy or something.[/QUOTE]I noticed on this map you attached, there is a lot of clubs in Quezon City. I have tried for years to get someone to give field reports on these.
Why don't you check them out and give us some info?
[QUOTE=Blackangst] Also, looks like AOC for travelling Americans is either local AOC or 16, whichever is higher.[/QUOTE]
I believe if you are an american then you have to keep it above 18 not matter where you are in the world.
[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]I find myself coming to Makati for the umpteenth time in a couple days time for half a week and want to do something different. Other than the business district and Greenbelt I'm very familiar with P Burgos and have been to Edsa Entertainment Complex a few time. LA Cafe is the same type of pick up joint everywhere in Asia.
I am tired of the same old scene. Can someone recommend something different for action in Manila. Are any of the places in Malate any good or different? What about places in Ermita? Is the system and pricing the same as either Burgos (high) or Edsa (cheap). Also how safe are these places for westerners.
Looking at [url]http://www.burgos-street.com/ermita.php[/url] does not really give me a feel if the places are much different than Burgos or Edsa?
Or are there any places that are any different than the standard gogo or massage joint. Like places to have a big orgy or something.[/QUOTE]
RH you have to create your own entertainment with the girls. I have an upcoming report (I'm way behind on my reports from notes stored in my blackberry) about getting tired of the same old thing and convincing a girl who had never eaten pussy to barhop with me and select a girl for us to take home. From moving from bar to bar, watching the prospective girls face as we told them what we wanted, and actually doing the deed and watching the two girls together. Mega fun bro! So go create your own orgy my friend! Don't wait for an established business to do it for you. The sky is the limit. Happy hunting!
YM
On a slow night I was heading back to Makati, and the cabby some old dude who was friendly told me he knew a « boarding house » where I could get « clean pussy ».
Normally I always pass on those offers, but this time I accepted he headed to some street not too far from Makati, called bauptista or something like that.
In some shit place, I entered, and I must say it was a pleasant surprise. There was a line up of maybe 50 girls which were good looking. Many girls were 7 and very few were below 6.
I picked up a girl for 3, 000 pesos. Back to the hotel then she wanted to do everything covered, even BJ! WTF a covered BJ in the Phils! She said it was strict instructions from mamas an
So we had a quick and shitty round, then I let her go.
Do you guys have experience with such places? How to negotiate service? (as you can't speak to the girls, you only speak to the "handler").
Is it possible to have good experience at such places?
How to find it back? I mean those idiots don't even give you a phone # or a business card!
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[QUOTE=Escort Fan]On a slow night I was heading back to Makati, and the cabby some old dude who was friendly told me he knew a « boarding house » where I could get « clean pussy ».
Normally I always pass on those offers, but this time I accepted he headed to some street not too far from Makati, called bauptista or something like that.
In some shit place, I entered, and I must say it was a pleasant surprise. There was a line up of maybe 50 girls which were good looking. Many girls were 7 and very few were below 6.
I picked up a girl for 3, 000 pesos. Back to the hotel then she wanted to do everything covered, even BJ! WTF a covered BJ in the Phils! She said it was strict instructions from mamas an
So we had a quick and shitty round, then I let her go.
Do you guys have experience with such places? How to negotiate service? (as you can't speak to the girls, you only speak to the "handler").
Is it possible to have good experience at such places?
How to find it back? I mean those idiots don't even give you a phone # or a business card!
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I've been to a similar place twice for the same price of 3k. I don't know the address. It may be the same place. I've been lucky with the women there as both provided very good service and were very into it. The papasan at these places will tell you a lot of times the women will stay like until 12 pm the next day or something like that for that price. The women I think will get about 1000 pesos out of that. All the BJ's were uncovered. One woman left earlier than I planned but she in return got me going surprisingly when I didn't think I could so I let her go. She didn't live at the place like the other one did.
Just left Manila and would have to say I am disappointed. My first of 3 days there I got picked up by a little cutie that turned out to be a bossy little biatch whom I booted out of my room after payment. After that I went to 5 different massage places and all were the same - no extras, no way. I had no idea that they are all legit, thinking they were more of the Thai model where in 60% of them anything goes.
However not to be all negative I did get a good impression of the Phillipino people that I have had conversation with. Most have so little yet they are some of the happiest folks I have come across. Perhaps I just did not have the correct expectations of how to get laid. Anyhow I left and am now in Cebu and it is the same way. The amps are legit and the weather is humid to the point of ridiculous.
One thing I have to say that all my life I have heard and now I can confirm - south of the equator the toilet waterdoes flush counterclockwise!!
[QUOTE=LuvDaPuss]One thing I have to say that all my life I have heard and now I can confirm - south of the equator the toilet waterdoes flush counterclockwise!![/QUOTE]There are no parts of the Philippines which are south of the equator.
Check a map mate, even davao is in the nothern hemisphere!
Massage parlors, I don't even know where you found some:) this is not Thailand, here you pick up in bars, in mall (for freelancers), on the net for escorts and where ever taxis bring you to:)
[QUOTE=LuvDaPuss]Just left Manila and would have to say I am disappointed. My first of 3 days there I got picked up by a little cutie that turned out to be a bossy little biatch whom I booted out of my room after payment. After that I went to 5 different massage places and all were the same - no extras, no way. I had no idea that they are all legit, thinking they were more of the Thai model where in 60% of them anything goes. [/QUOTE]
Did you read anything here before you left???? Greenbelt, Robinson, Burgos, LA Cafe, EDSA.... OMG mate... RTFF before you go...
And for a bossy little biatch why you let her stay 3 days??????? I surely hope you mean that during the first three days you only found ONE girl and she turned out to be a bossy little biatch that you booted....
[QUOTE=LuvDaPuss]One thing I have to say that all my life I have heard and now I can confirm - south of the equator the toilet waterdoes flush counterclockwise!![/QUOTE]
South of the Equator?????? Are you sure you are in Philippines? Better stick your head in for a closer look as last time I heard PI was NORTH of the equator. :D
KM's post is a first for me. I've never before heard of a guy coming to the PI who could not get laid!
In Philippines, it's best to skip the massage places. Go to the bars that have been recommended at ISG.
Two points of confusion for me.
1) GE was referring to this post below?
2) Mr. LDP, you do realize that the Philippines is NOT south of the equater, and therefore your water should be draining clockwise? Of course the oceans behave in a similar way. I've been swimming in Miami on Christmas Day, yet the southern Californian waters can be very chilly even in the summer time.
X
*duh...after posting this, I can see Tansak has covered the same territory.
[QUOTE=LuvDaPuss]Just left Manila and would have to say I am disappointed. My first of 3 days there I got picked up by a little cutie that turned out to be a bossy little biatch whom I booted out of my room after payment. After that I went to 5 different massage places and all were the same - no extras, no way. I had no idea that they are all legit, thinking they were more of the Thai model where in 60% of them anything goes.
However not to be all negative I did get a good impression of the Phillipino people that I have had conversation with. Most have so little yet they are some of the happiest folks I have come across. Perhaps I just did not have the correct expectations of how to get laid. Anyhow I left and am now in Cebu and it is the same way. The amps are legit and the weather is humid to the point of ridiculous.
One thing I have to say that all my life I have heard and now I can confirm - south of the equator the toilet waterdoes flush counterclockwise!![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LuvDaPuss]Just left Manila and would have to say I am disappointed. My first of 3 days there I got picked up by a little cutie that turned out to be a bossy little biatch whom I booted out of my room after payment. After that I went to 5 different massage places and all were the same. No extras, no way. I had no idea that they are all legit, thinking they were more of the Thai model where in 60% of them anything goes.
However not to be all negative I did get a good impression of the Phillipino people that I have had conversation with. Most have so little yet they are some of the happiest folks I have come across. Perhaps I just did not have the correct expectations of how to get laid. Anyhow I left and am now in Cebu and it is the same way. The AMPs are legit and the weather is humid to the point of ridiculous.
One thing I have to say that all my life I have heard and now I can confirm. South of the equator the toilet waterdoes flush counterclockwise![/QUOTE]To luvdapuss
I was at Don Pedro Sauna last week got a cute nice girl jonie, she is very nice university girl 20 yr old a GFE cost is 1200 peso to the house and 1500 peso to the girl for 90 min included a very nice massage with 2 pop, I normally don't go to sauna or bar at burgoes because they are mostly rip off and manila is getting so expensive for everything that Bangkok is not that much more.
Fast Eddie 48
[quote]
One thing I have to say that all my life I have heard and now I can confirm - south of the equator the toilet waterdoes flush counterclockwise!![/QUOTE]
Only for mongers. For everyone else it just goes straight down only - when you tip the pan of water in afterwards. ;) ;) ;)
[QUOTE=LuvDaPuss]Just left Manila and would have to say I am disappointed. . .
[/QUOTE]
I am in Manila now, and I have to say that I would be disappointed if I had to walk more than 3 blocks without being propositioned at least once. I'm an older, average-looking, somewhat overweight man and all I have to do is walk outside the hotel and hang around for 10 minutes at dusk and the girl finds me. I suspect this is the same for most as I don't have any special charm or magic. How can you stay in Manila and NOT get laid?
Anyone know of a gym in the Makati area that you can use on a day pass? Any hotels got any fitness centers in them?
[QUOTE=Amjeck]Anyone know of a gym in the Makati area that you can use on a day pass? Any hotels got any fitness centers in them?[/QUOTE]
Dusit is Decent... How "real" of a fitness are you looking for? I are you looking free weights, spinner bikes, boxing, yoga, etc...
[QUOTE=LuvDaPuss]Just left Manila and would have to say I am disappointed. My first of 3 days there I got picked up by a little cutie that turned out to be a bossy little biatch whom I booted out of my room after payment. After that I went to 5 different massage places and all were the same - no extras, no way. I had no idea that they are all legit, thinking they were more of the Thai model where in 60% of them anything goes.
However not to be all negative I did get a good impression of the Phillipino people that I have had conversation with. Most have so little yet they are some of the happiest folks I have come across. Perhaps I just did not have the correct expectations of how to get laid. Anyhow I left and am now in Cebu and it is the same way. The amps are legit and the weather is humid to the point of ridiculous.
One thing I have to say that all my life I have heard and now I can confirm - south of the equator the toilet waterdoes flush counterclockwise!![/QUOTE]
I am in Cebu also. If you can't find a girl, please feel free to PM me and I will take you and show you how to find a 1000 girls...unless you are just a troll and want to start some BS here?
Up To You:D
Robb
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Dusit is Decent... How "real" of a fitness are you looking for? I are you looking free weights, spinner bikes, boxing, yoga, etc...[/QUOTE]Anyone try the massage services at Dusit?
[QUOTE=Willie Wonker]I am in Manila now, and I have to say that I would be disappointed if I had to walk more than 3 blocks without being propositioned at least once. I'm an older, average-looking, somewhat overweight man and all I have to do is walk outside the hotel and hang around for 10 minutes at dusk and the girl finds me. I suspect this is the same for most as I don't have any special charm or magic. How can you stay in Manila and NOT get laid?[/QUOTE]
I guess part of that depends on what hotel you stay at. The place I stayed at before did not have many girls walking around it. But then I had one hanging on my arm, and keeping my attention also. So I may have missed some things! :D
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Dusit is Decent... How "real" of a fitness are you looking for? I are you looking free weights, spinner bikes, boxing, yoga, etc...[/QUOTE]
free weights are ideal, but anything have way decent is ok. just something for a few days to get a decent all around workout. 300-500 pesos/day is ok. thanks
[QUOTE=Amjeck]free weights are ideal, but anything have way decent is ok. just something for a few days to get a decent all around workout. 300-500 pesos/day is ok. thanks[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.gymvisit.com/findagym.htm?loc=fareast/Philippines/Makati[/url]
When I"m not using Dusit's on transit personally I liked Technofit they have dumbells (besides myself) but they have Cybex and Hammer Strenght. Haven't been there in a while however.
Most folks I know in the area just run to Golds.
Been living in Bohol & Cebu for 3 years and have to make my way up north for meetings. I am sure lots have changed in the 4 years since I was there last. Back then there were some good deals on condotels. Seeing that I hate paying for lodging and that I am in Province mode when it comes to spending money, what are the top budget locations in your opinions?
-Ender
[QUOTE=Presidio]Anyone try the massage services at Dusit?[/QUOTE]I used to use it regularly when I lived there. Always had same girl in one of their " private rooms" and always got hot and steamy. Then one day got extra hot and after our "session " the girl started crying. I asked her why. She told me " you like to have fun with me here, but you won't take me out on a date ". Yes she was right!
A cabby is the last person to take pussy advice from.
After years in Mania I always gravitate back to the LA Cafe. Its hit or miss, but its the most fun. Talk to some of the girls in there about their experiences with "clients." Thats almost worth the trip.
[QUOTE=Escort Fan]On a slow night I was heading back to Makati, and the cabby some old dude who was friendly told me he knew a « boarding house » where I could get « clean pussy ».
Normally I always pass on those offers, but this time I accepted he headed to some street not too far from Makati, called bauptista or something like that.
In some shit place, I entered, and I must say it was a pleasant surprise. There was a line up of maybe 50 girls which were good looking. Many girls were 7 and very few were below 6.
I picked up a girl for 3, 000 pesos. Back to the hotel then she wanted to do everything covered, even BJ! WTF a covered BJ in the Phils! She said it was strict instructions from mamas an
So we had a quick and shitty round, then I let her go.
Do you guys have experience with such places? How to negotiate service? (as you can't speak to the girls, you only speak to the "handler").
Is it possible to have good experience at such places?
How to find it back? I mean those idiots don't even give you a phone # or a business card!
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[QUOTE=Henryv]
After years in Mania I always gravitate back to the LA Cafe. Its hit or miss, but its the most fun. Talk to some of the girls in there about their experiences with "clients." Thats almost worth the trip.[/QUOTE]
... leaving the L out of Manila. Very appropriate;). LA Cafe may be the pits but its the best place for a casual visitor to meet a genuine amateur, shopgirl or student out to make a bit of extra cash. Don't believe what some will try and tell you - they do go there. You will also meet some of the most grizzled old pro's to be found in Manila. They flock there in droves also.
Just remember to take your respirator (if you are a non-smoker).
Looking to find some great woman, been deployed and need some fun.
Any ex-military want show a new guy the ropes? Is cebu better for action?
Being 48, is age any factor there? June July time period but flexible.
Coming from Sac. Cali area, maybe find a drinking buddy wingman to go there with.
Just for the record, I am a fat, old (62), gray haired, fart...........
I just made my first trip to PI. The first six days in AC, the last night in Manila. We went to the LA Cafe for the evening. For those of you who have been to Costa Rica, think of the Hotel Del Rey/Blue Marlin.
Arrived at about 7 PM and there were plenty of ladies there, I would say about a 3-1 female to male ratio. All types were available, but highest I would call an 8+. We ate in the pool room area, with passable food.
The first lady to hit on me immediately was a party girl. I went to the CR, and she was already sitting beside someone else when I returned, which I approved of. She came back over and I told her no way. My friends and I had a few drinks, and the crowd of ladies grew.
I noticed a lady that was sitting by herself, with no friends. She was classy dressed in a low cut dress, nice naturals, pretty (almost Japanese looking), sort of out of place. I had the waitress order her a drink, and she was surprised, but made no move towards me. A lady beside me asked what I was doing, I told her I had just bought her a drink, and she ordered a non-alcoholic drink. She told the lady to move over to the chair beside me. She was very shy, and did so reluctantly. When I asked her why she had not come over, her response was "You did not ask me to".
Come to find out she is a part-timer who had not been in the Cafe for over two months, and her last session didn't go well for her. I asked her how much for the night, and her comment was "I do not want to talk about business with you, give me what you think". When it was time to leave, with still no agreement, I told her to either tell me how much, or I was leaving alone. She looked at the ground and whispered 2,000 for all night. When it came time to pay, in the morning, she would not look at me, and I had to physically put the money in her hand.
This lady was total GFE in the room. She had said she was very horny from months of no good sex, and it was true. DFK, BBBJCIM, and waking me up for a morning session before I had to leave at 6 AM. She was the most passionate GFE that I have experienced in hundreds of mongering sessions in many countries. Another first for me, she asked if she could take my picture with her.
While I am sure that there are better venues in Manila than the LA Cafe, as I do in other countries, I look for the quiet lady that looks out of place. For me, it pays dividends.
In one sense, unfortunately, I will not be going back to PI in the near future. For me, I prefer MDE, but will try Pattaya next year.
Health and happiness to all..............
[QUOTE=Usaman]Looking to find some great woman, been deployed and need some fun.
Any ex-military want show a new guy the ropes? Is cebu better for action?
Being 48, is age any factor there? June July time period but flexible.
Coming from Sac. Cali area, maybe find a drinking buddy wingman to go there with.[/QUOTE]
Seems like you haven't read ANY posts here.
Five minutes reading would answer all your questions.
[QUOTE=Usaman]Looking to find some great woman, been deployed and need some fun.
Any ex-military want show a new guy the ropes? Is cebu better for action?
Being 48, is age any factor there? June July time period but flexible.
Coming from Sac. Cali area, maybe find a drinking buddy wingman to go there with.[/QUOTE]
Usaman, I'll be in Cebu during the last week of July thru first week of August. I'm retired military so we may have a bit in common. I'd be glad to show you around if your there around the same dates. Hit me with a PM.
YM
While I am sure that there are better venues in Manila than the LA Cafe, as I do in other countries, I look for the quiet lady that looks out of place. For me, it pays dividends.
In one sense, unfortunately, I will not be going back to PI in the near future. For me, I prefer MDE, but will try Pattaya next year.
Health and happiness to all..............[/QUOTE]
Steve,
I, like yourself have found many a gem by taking the road less traveled. Of course on occasion there is a reason they are sat out all by themselves!
I also share your affections for MDE, but in reverse. I have had some extraordinary times in MDE, but cannot get there often since I live on this side of the date line now. Give my regards to to those awesome piasas, y que tenga un buen viaje! We will try to keep things going here until your next visit! :-)
Cebu has plenty of action, but the main reason it is better is that it isn't Manila.
As for 48, you might consider some Cialis or Viagra...at 48 your brain's sex drive is the same as 18, but naughtier, but the other parts don't always keep up.
X
[QUOTE=Usaman]Looking to find some great woman, been deployed and need some fun.
Any ex-military want show a new guy the ropes? Is cebu better for action?
Being 48, is age any factor there? June July time period but flexible.
Coming from Sac. Cali area, maybe find a drinking buddy wingman to go there with.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Supersteve]I asked her how much for the night, and her comment was "I do not want to talk about business with you, give me what you think". When it was time to leave, with still no agreement, I told her to either tell me how much, or I was leaving alone. She looked at the ground and whispered 2, 000 for all night. When it came time to pay, in the morning, she would not look at me, and I had to physically put the money in her hand.
This lady was total GFE in the room.[/QUOTE]Something about this post set off a light in my head. It seems we spend a lot of time on this forum talking about prices, locations, techniques for bedding women. Etc. But we should take note of something very awkward for these women.
The discussion of prices and the exchange of money.
Someone wrote in this forum several weeks ago that these women loose face when we openly hand money to them. I guess it is because they don't want to be confronted with the truth that they are prostitutes. It is obviously over my head and beyond my understanding as a white guy what causes them to lose face. But having done it hundreds of times I can tell you it is definitely true.
With that in mind here is my take on "peso etiquette. " When it is time to pay the girl, slip the money in her pocket or her purse. Do this when she is around and aware that you are doing it. This will tell her you have made good on your promise to pay and alleviate her of having to ask for it. Don't mention the amount, or the fact that you are doing it, just do it casually so as not to make her feel uncomfortable. If she was particularly good it would be nice to mention to her that you have given her extra or that you have included extra for her taxi.
If money was not mentioned before hand, but you both know it is P4P, just do the above and tell her this is taxi money when you give it to her.
Now the hard part, discussing price before hand. Like the lady mentioned above, we all want to bed the woman that is too kind and sweet to mention money, but we are nervous that she wants too much money. I am certainly not an expert at this situation, but my advice would be to whisper to her when you are ready to leave that you would like her to come with you but you want to make sure that she will be happy with what you would like to pay. 99% of the time the women will say, you can pay whatever you would like. So you must start the conversation by saying "I will pay 1500 pesos for 3 hours "
Not trying to preach to anyone but I think this is good advice to be followed. I have seen several newbies go to the PI and meet a really quality GFE type and stay with her for several days and at the end send her off with nothing. When I question them about it they say "well she did it because she loves me, not for the money. I took her to all of the restaurants and to the mall." True, but you knew she was a working girl when you met her at LA Café/Havana Café/EDSA and she fulfilled her part of the bargain by delivering the GFE, now you need to fulfill your part by paying her! Just because she doesn't ask for money doesn't mean she isn't expecting it.
[QUOTE=Devils 1]Something about this post set off a light in my head. It seems we spend a lot of time on this forum talking about prices, locations, techniques for bedding women. Etc. But we should take note of something very awkward for these women.
The discussion of prices and the exchange of money.
Someone wrote in this forum several weeks ago that these women loose face when we openly hand money to them. I guess it is because they don't want to be confronted with the truth that they are prostitutes. It is obviously over my head and beyond my understanding as a white guy what causes them to lose face. But having done it hundreds of times I can tell you it is definitely true.
With that in mind here is my take on "peso etiquette. " When it is time to pay the girl, slip the money in her pocket or her purse. Do this when she is around and aware that you are doing it. This will tell her you have made good on your promise to pay and alleviate her of having to ask for it. Don't mention the amount, or the fact that you are doing it, just do it casually so as not to make her feel uncomfortable. If she was particularly good it would be nice to mention to her that you have given her extra or that you have included extra for her taxi.
If money was not mentioned before hand, but you both know it is P4P, just do the above and tell her this is taxi money when you give it to her.
Now the hard part, discussing price before hand. Like the lady mentioned above, we all want to bed the woman that is too kind and sweet to mention money, but we are nervous that she wants too much money. I am certainly not an expert at this situation, but my advice would be to whisper to her when you are ready to leave that you would like her to come with you but you want to make sure that she will be happy with what you would like to pay. 99% of the time the women will say, you can pay whatever you would like. So you must start the conversation by saying "I will pay 1500 pesos for 3 hours "
Not trying to preach to anyone but I think this is good advice to be followed. I have seen several newbies go to the PI and meet a really quality GFE type and stay with her for several days and at the end send her off with nothing. When I question them about it they say "well she did it because she loves me, not for the money. I took her to all of the restaurants and to the mall. " True, but you knew she was a working girl when you met her at LA Café/Havana Café/EDSA and she fulfilled her part of the bargain by delivering the GFE, now you need to fulfill your part by paying her! Just because she doesn't ask for money doesn't mean she isn't expecting it.[/QUOTE]I like this report.
I am a little cheaper as I live in angeles and usually pay 1000 pesos for short time? It does vary. For sure I do not pay for sex. I either pay for the girls time? Pay for her taxi and food and also contribute to her rent. Or pay so she will go away? Hahaha. If you know what I mean.
I have had bar fines and the girl does not want sex. I just accept it as she is human being and I want it to be consensual. Of course I will never see her again but for '1500 pesos why worry.
As I said I do not pay for sex but yes I love sex and want a willing girl.
Now as mentioned in the post for sure the girls need money. Its a different reality then USA or a western country where a girl can be free and even contribute to the meals and trip costs.
Many girls are hangiing out and willing to be companions because they need milk and food for their baby or their family and they need to pay the rent.
You are lucky if you meet a real nice girl that does not ask for anything and is like a real girlfriend. To not give them money shows either totally selfishness or a misunderstanding of what they need and the reality of their situation.
I have been in Angeles City for two years.
Most girls I meet would prefer to settle down with one guy and have a family or normal life/ But there are many circumstances and llittle opportunity as to why they are willing to sell their bodies.
I usually have two to six girls living with me in between boyfriends or other jobs.
Not like in the USA where they buy drugs or lavish spending.
Thanks for a well written report and to stick up for the girls. God bless them for giving me love and companionship.
Yes some are greedy and if you meet one that is golden be good to her. Or send her to me and I will take care of her. I will even give her money for her family up to a point.
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[QUOTE=Devils 1]Something about this post set off a light in my head. It seems we spend a lot of time on this forum talking about prices, locations, techniques for bedding women. Etc. But we should take note of something very awkward for these women.
The discussion of prices and the exchange of money.
Someone wrote in this forum several weeks ago that these women loose face when we openly hand money to them. I guess it is because they don't want to be confronted with the truth that they are prostitutes. It is obviously over my head and beyond my understanding as a white guy what causes them to lose face. But having done it hundreds of times I can tell you it is definitely true.
With that in mind here is my take on "peso etiquette. " When it is time to pay the girl, slip the money in her pocket or her purse. Do this when she is around and aware that you are doing it. This will tell her you have made good on your promise to pay and alleviate her of having to ask for it. Don't mention the amount, or the fact that you are doing it, just do it casually so as not to make her feel uncomfortable. If she was particularly good it would be nice to mention to her that you have given her extra or that you have included extra for her taxi.
If money was not mentioned before hand, but you both know it is P4P, just do the above and tell her this is taxi money when you give it to her.
Now the hard part, discussing price before hand. Like the lady mentioned above, we all want to bed the woman that is too kind and sweet to mention money, but we are nervous that she wants too much money. I am certainly not an expert at this situation, but my advice would be to whisper to her when you are ready to leave that you would like her to come with you but you want to make sure that she will be happy with what you would like to pay. 99% of the time the women will say, you can pay whatever you would like. So you must start the conversation by saying "I will pay 1500 pesos for 3 hours "
Not trying to preach to anyone but I think this is good advice to be followed. I have seen several newbies go to the PI and meet a really quality GFE type and stay with her for several days and at the end send her off with nothing. When I question them about it they say "well she did it because she loves me, not for the money. I took her to all of the restaurants and to the mall." True, but you knew she was a working girl when you met her at LA Café/Havana Café/EDSA and she fulfilled her part of the bargain by delivering the GFE, now you need to fulfill your part by paying her! Just because she doesn't ask for money doesn't mean she isn't expecting it.[/QUOTE]
Spot on post...
[QUOTE=Devils 1]Something about this post set off a light in my head. It seems we spend a lot of time on this forum talking about prices, locations, techniques for bedding women. Etc. But we should take note of something very awkward for these women.
The discussion of prices and the exchange of money.
Someone wrote in this forum several weeks ago that these women loose face when we openly hand money to them. I guess it is because they don't want to be confronted with the truth that they are prostitutes. It is obviously over my head and beyond my understanding as a white guy what causes them to lose face. But having done it hundreds of times I can tell you it is definitely true.
With that in mind here is my take on "peso etiquette. " When it is time to pay the girl, slip the money in her pocket or her purse. Do this when she is around and aware that you are doing it. This will tell her you have made good on your promise to pay and alleviate her of having to ask for it. Don't mention the amount, or the fact that you are doing it, just do it casually so as not to make her feel uncomfortable. If she was particularly good it would be nice to mention to her that you have given her extra or that you have included extra for her taxi.
If money was not mentioned before hand, but you both know it is P4P, just do the above and tell her this is taxi money when you give it to her.
Now the hard part, discussing price before hand. Like the lady mentioned above, we all want to bed the woman that is too kind and sweet to mention money, but we are nervous that she wants too much money. I am certainly not an expert at this situation, but my advice would be to whisper to her when you are ready to leave that you would like her to come with you but you want to make sure that she will be happy with what you would like to pay. 99% of the time the women will say, you can pay whatever you would like. So you must start the conversation by saying "I will pay 1500 pesos for 3 hours "
Not trying to preach to anyone but I think this is good advice to be followed. I have seen several newbies go to the PI and meet a really quality GFE type and stay with her for several days and at the end send her off with nothing. When I question them about it they say "well she did it because she loves me, not for the money. I took her to all of the restaurants and to the mall." True, but you knew she was a working girl when you met her at LA Café/Havana Café/EDSA and she fulfilled her part of the bargain by delivering the GFE, now you need to fulfill your part by paying her! Just because she doesn't ask for money doesn't mean she isn't expecting it.[/QUOTE]
Yes, that's a nice post. Personally I like to mention money upfront of at all possible, just in case she was expecting more and is disappointed. I try to just say a number, as an offside as we are leaving, as if it is a minor detail - eg, "Oh - 1500, ok . . ." and get her to nod.
When I pay her, I usually spread the notes so she can see how much is there without counting, even if it is folded. I slip it under her purse or something of hers sitting on the table, casually but in full view. I am trying to be discreet but also avoid any 'misunderstanding.'
The only time I have had any come-back on this was when a girl asked me to bring smaller notes next time - "A girl like me doesn't usually have notes that big to go into a shop with."
Excellent points Devils 1. I will use some of what you have written.
For me, I choose to make sure that there is no doubt about the money, or the exchange. I don't want to have problems of any sort in a foreign country, especially dealing with money, and a Pro.
Without going into a long story, in this case, it was because of a "connection" (her words) that she had made with me, and IMJ being a pro working only part-time. Spending a couple of hours talking to her, about her, was very different for her (again her words). She knew that what she was doing was prostituting, and even used the word, not only to me, but to our group. Due to the connection she felt, it was her desire that this seem more real than business. I could have possibly done better at the exchange to let her more enjoy the moment.
Again, thanks for the input. I will look for ways to make a smoother exchange, while still out in the open so there can be no doubt.
Health & happiness to all................
I am going to be in Makati next week from just about four hours until noon. Any mongering suggestions that would fit within that time frame would be most appreciated!
[QUOTE=Barfollowmule]I am going to be in Makati next week from just about four hours until noon. Any mongering suggestions that would fit within that time frame would be most appreciated![/QUOTE]You said 4 hours until noon so I am assuming you be there from 8:00 AM until 12:00 PM. The bars will not be open. You might try some of the in-call massage parlors. My favorite is Palacio Don Pedro. See if this link works.
[url]http://donpedro.ktvphil.com/outlet/donpedro/main.asp[/url]
[QUOTE=Barfollowmule]I am going to be in Makati next week from just about four hours until noon. Any mongering suggestions that would fit within that time frame would be most appreciated![/QUOTE]Yes other than Don Pedro, the only morning place I can think of is Air Force one. And I am not even sure they are open that early. Also they are in Paranaque, which could be an hour ride each way.
I am sure you could google air force one and get their hours.
[QUOTE=Emale]You said 4 hours until noon so I am assuming you be there from 8:00 AM until 12:00 PM. The bars will not be open. You might try some of the in-call massage parlors. My favorite is Palacio Don Pedro. See if this link works.
[url]http://donpedro.ktvphil.com/outlet/donpedro/main.asp[/url][/QUOTE]
BFM
I'm staying in Manila for 2 days and was wondering if you can give a little more details, like pricing, and are extras included the initial pricing.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Barfollowmule]I am going to be in Makati next week from just about four hours until noon. Any mongering suggestions that would fit within that time frame would be most appreciated![/QUOTE]
You head over to one of the many malls...the coffee shops, etc..and you'll be approached! It's a given! Almost any hotel will have p4p gals hanging around.
But with just 4 hours to kill....I'd line up someone before....many sites available with p4p filippinas!
All excellent reports about not having to pay for sexual services.
One provider thanked me for "her allowance". I like that term and will use it from now on. Some don't care what you call it, but for the ones, who are uncomfortable with receiving money, giving them "an allowance" is a nice way to put it in my opinion.
Jager
[QUOTE=Supersteve]Excellent points Devils 1. I will use some of what you have written.
For me, I choose to make sure that there is no doubt about the money, or the exchange. I don't want to have problems of any sort in a foreign country, especially dealing with money, and a Pro.
Without going into a long story, in this case, it was because of a "connection" (her words) that she had made with me, and IMJ being a pro working only part-time. Spending a couple of hours talking to her, about her, was very different for her (again her words). She knew that what she was doing was prostituting, and even used the word, not only to me, but to our group. Due to the connection she felt, it was her desire that this seem more real than business. I could have possibly done better at the exchange to let her more enjoy the moment.
Again, thanks for the input. I will look for ways to make a smoother exchange, while still out in the open so there can be no doubt.
Health & happiness to all................[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Devils 1]Yes other than Don Pedro, the only morning place I can think of is Air Force one. And I am not even sure they are open that early. Also they are in Paranaque, which could be an hour ride each way.
I am sure you could google air force one and get their hours.[/QUOTE]
AF1 opens at 12. I would head to LA Cafe.
Robb
ok. first trip report for me, so here goes.
found myself with some unexpected free time, and having been a frequent lurker on the board for some time now, i had always wanted to try bangkok, china, or the phillippines. bangkok was my #1 choice, but in looking at my travel options, manila was the only place i could get a direct flight that wouldn't take 30+ hours (searching online travel sites). based on the travel time required, manila seemed like the best choice for me as i could maximize my time there. i also liked the fact that english is spoken by almost everyone there. i figured it'd make everything a little easier as i know zero tagalog, and wanted to chat up the girls a bit. anyways, this entire decision making process happened on saturday morning the 20th. after reading through the board a bit more, i decided to go for it. as my finger hovered over clicking the button to finalize the ticket purchase, i admit i did have second thoughts as i normally like to prepare much more in advance for first time trips. but after looking through some of the photos posted, the little head made his voice heard and click it i did. flight to manila for sunday night and reservations at the g-hotel.
holy shit. i have only a day to prepare for this!
there wasn't near as much to do as i thought thankfully. after printing out my flight and hotel itinerary, grabbed my passport, packed a few changes of clothes and some toiletries, then headed over to costco for a box of condoms and having read on the board that chocolate was very much appreciated by the girls, i picked up a bag of ghiradelli squares. as a sort of spur of the moment idea, i decided to pick up a rabbit vibrator (unfortunately costco doesn't stock these so i had to head over to the nearby adult toy store). never really been into toys before, but i had all kinds of porno shit playing in my head and i figured if i got two or three girls, it might come in handy.
arrived in manila 5am on tuesday march 23rd. changed some money at the airport terminal. exchange rate was much better than what was being offered in the states. for anyone travelling out here, definitely don't bother changing money before you leave. manila exchange rate was 45 to the dollar, us airport was 37 with a 8 dollar service fee. another good tip i got from the board. anyway, headed over to the metered taxis and gave him the g hotel address. fare was around 200 php. unfortunately it was only 7am or so, and with check-in at 2pm and having just gotten off a 16 hour flight, i decided to opt for the early check in option (2000php!). oh well.
after snoozing for several hours, i woke up around 2pm and decided to head over to the la cafe area. i walked around for a bit to get a feel for the area. there's no real sidewalk on many streets and no stops or lights, so you have to be pretty nimble and aware of the traffic. even at 2pm on a tuesday afternoon, there were a lot of girls working the street. people weren't kidding about the girls being aggressive. i made accidental eye contact with one and she followed me for like 4 blocks. she was actually pretty cute, but all i wanted to do at that time was get a bite, so i blew her off and headed over to robinson mall. the mall is pretty huge, i didn't bother walking through it all figuring i'd have time to do so over the next several days. i recall reading some posts about other isg members trolling for freelancers there. i wasn't planning on heading that route for the first day, so i didn't really pay too much attention. maybe later. after grabbing a bite, i decided to head over to la cafe.
lots of girls in there at around 4pm or so, but not really packed. a handful of lookers, but mostly average to below average in my opinion. i decided to get a drink and browse the crowd for a bit. i'm not seated for more than 2 minutes when one of the average looking girls comes by and asks if she can sit down. i wasn't really interested, but said she could sit anyway. her name was kahti i think. she was actually pretty cool to talk to, but i kept sort of ignoring her as i wanted to find someone else to take for a st session. after another beer or two, i was starting to think she wouldn't be too bad and had just about made up my mind to ask her when this cute little spinner walks in and stands right next to our table. she says her name is candy, so we start talking and it becomes obvious i'm more interested in her than kahti. kahti keeps trying to talk me into a threesome, but i'm really not feeling game for it for my first session and wanted to keep things a bit simpler. it is a bit awkward as i'm not quite sure how to get rid of kahti. finally i just tell candy i'm interested in a short time session and how much would that b. i get the 'it's up to you' answer. great. forewarning for all other first timers. just tell her what you are going to pay up front, it'll save you some headache later (if you are partial to the guilt trip). i felt a little bad for kahti so i gave her a 100php and told her maybe next time (as you can see i am partial). candy and i are off to the g-hotel.
so we get in the room and get ready to take a shower. i'm getting a little nervous as she keeps hiding her body from me and saying 'i'm shy! '. everytime i look at her she covers herself 'i'm shy! '. she also doesn't look quite as good in the room as she did in the bar either. the first thing she tells me is she's had a baby as she has a few stretch marks and her tits are a little droopy even though they are small. whatever. i flew 16 hours for this, so unless something is fishy with the plumbing, this is going to happen. so we start to make out, and it becomes obvious she doesn't know how to kiss. it's all awkward and i can see her eyes open and looking around. when she goes down to blow me, it's obvious she's struggling with it and she keeps saying how big i am (not true, but she was only about 4'10" so it's all relative i guess). as gratifying as it is seeing her massaging her jaw and keep plugging away at it, i decide to return the favor and go down on her. can anyone guess what comes next?
"i don't like, i'm shy! "
this is starting to become a serious buzzkill, so i just flip her over doggy and bang away till i bust my nut. the irritation actually helped. afterwards (actually all the time) she is very sweet and cuddly, and even gets me going for a second round, i'm trying to coach her a bit and being more patient, but i end up just resorting to the first method. we end up killing the rest of the time just hanging out and watching tv and she says there is a really cool seafood restaurant nearby where you can buy the food from the market next door and the restaurant will cook it for you cheaply. sounds pretty interesting so i ask her if she wants to eat dinner there. i figure i'll take my leave after and head back over to la cafe to look for another girl. before we head out, i peel off 2000php and leave it by her bag figuring this would be a fair amount. she then tells me that this is not enough. it's supposed to be 3k for short time and since we did it twice it's 6k. wtf!!
i remind her, she said it was 'up to me', and she says she is willing to give me a 'discount' of 2k per pop. i'm a little pissed at this point, but she looks more sad than anything so i give her another 1k (i think i'm going to hear about this from a lot of people on the board, but damn i'm soft.) and tell her thats it. i'm thinking about walking at this point, but i've already spent the money and i kinda wanted to check this place out so we head out. in the cab, she's all apologetic and tells me i can fuck her for free from this point on, and what she's going to buy for her daughter with the money etc. etc. i'm not really hearing it at this point but it kind of works out in the end.
anyway, the place is pretty interesting (i forget what it's called), but there are lots of vendors selling all types of seafood (lobster, crab, shrimp, fish etc.) and a person from the restaurant walks around with you. we ended up getting a kilo of crab for 500php and had the restaurant prepare it in a chili garlic sauce with some fried rice. two san migs for me and a melon shake for her and the bill came out to about 500php. during dinner, she shows me pics of her daughter. i tell her i'm going out drinking after dinner (she doesn't drink or smoke) so we'll probably call it quits then. she says that she will be my guide for the evening and wherever i want to go she will help me out for no charge. she also admits that she is bad at sex and does this once in a while (she works a regular job at a jollibee) to make money for her daughter. same ol' story. pregnant in high school and the guy ran out on her. anyway, after dinner she insists on finding me some quality tail and says she will take me to 'the complex'. after a bit of inquiry i find out this is the edsa complex and as i had seen it mentioned on the board but didn't know a lot about if figured she might be helpful. so off we go!
ok. i know i've only seen la cafe on a tuesday afternoon, but damn edsa is the shit. we walk through all the different clubs and there are 15-20 girls lined up in bikini's on stage (no hidden stretch marks or droopy boobs!). sit down, have a few beers and make your pick. for some reason, candy decides that she is going to tell everyone that she is my wife and we're here to pick a girl for me. (can someone from the board more familiar with the phillippines let me know if this actually happens?). she tells me that bar fine is 1500php and that the girls are between 1500 st and 2500 lt. this ends up being somewhat off as the girls i pull of stage are all telling me that lt is 4000php. i offered 3k and had 2 girls walk on me. granted, i picked (to me) the hottest, youngest girls on the stage but damn. finally i pick this young hardbody (maui) that agrees to 3k php for lt. (candy does the negotiation). she also keeps telling me not to pay her until the morning as some girls will split early. also some other warnings (earlier) about a lot of la cafe girls being on drugs and rip-off artists (i resist the temptation to remind her of our afternoon transaction). anyways, we close the deal and candy gives me her number and tells me to call her to let her know how it went, or if there is a problem. she takes a cab home and maui and i are off to the ghotel.
she says she is 20 years old, and her english is not as good as candy's. our conversation is a lot more limited, but i could really care less about conversation with a 20 year old. since our only common ground seems to be familiarity with the jabberwockeez, maybe it's a benefit. no droopy tits or stretch marks on this one. lean and tight. after showering she starts off with a bj and it's very promisiing as it's deep and wet, with lots of slobber and bls. yeah! this is what i came here for. while in missionary, she kind of keeps her legs a bit together so i can't thrust all the way and when i do manage to get it all the way in, she winces a bit but doesn't complain. i'm really not big so i don't know what the problem is, so i flip her doggy and pound away to my hearts content. she is moaning a lot and when i'm done, it seems like i had hurt her a bit. she keeps saying it's ok, but i'm feeling a bit bad about it all. so i remember the chocolate and ask her if she wants some. man her eyes light up and she loves it. she asks if she can have a few more in the morning to share with her sister and i say no problem. we get another session in before the night is over and she goes to take a bath and i tell her i'm going to want to hit that one more time before she leaves (we negotiated 6am). we both get up around 5am and after another shower we have another round of pretty much the same menu. i leave her the 3k with a 500php tip and a fistful of chocolate and she is super happy. keeps hugging and kissing me and it starts to be a little weird how happy she is with the chocolate. oh yes, one more detail. she didn't want daty either. says she doesn't like it. i was a bit disappointed as she was clean shaven and looking tasty as hell. i wonder if this has to do with image as she says she is shy as well (wants most of the lights out) and when i tell her she is pretty she keeps saying she's ugly (i know a lot of women say this, but seems different somehow). maybe i should go read that filipinas advice thread. anyway, it's now 8am and i've popped 5 times in the last 24 hours. at this rate i'm going to be shooting blanks by the end of the trip. figure i'll get some sleep, get some food, then do some research to see where i want to hit next. if anyone reads this in time, any advice is appreciated. my rabbit hasn't gotten any action so maybe that will be the next step.
thanks for reading. end day 1
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[quote=itsoweezee]
...i peel off 2000php and leave it by her bag figuring this would be a fair amount. she then tells me that this is not enough. it's supposed to be 3k for short time and since we did it twice it's 6k. wtf!![/quote]
wow, man, candy must have thought her wildest dreams had come true and she had found her own personal, walking atm. this is why bar girls ask where you come from, where you stay, are you on holiday and most importantly is this your first trip in country. knowing this they can figure out that you probably don't know the real prices but have lots of dosh to spend.
best always to tell them that you are an expat resident or at least a frequent visitor.
from the sound of your report, candy didn't even give you particularly good service. i would have booted her out with p1000. if she had improved her service exponentially the rate would have been a max of p1500 st.
no wonder she didn't want to lose you and offered to be your guide. she was obviously a consummate lac pro!
[quote=itsoweezee]ok. first trip report for me, so here goes.
flight to manila for sunday night and reservations at the g-hotel.[/quote]the rookie reports are the best. no fun to read babble from a guy who thinks he knows it all. how did you find the g-hotel? i think it's cool a little dive.
[quote=itsoweezee]i decided to opt for the early check in option (2000php!). oh well.[/quote]hell your lucky i have had made it to 5 star hotels in bangkok and have to wait another 2 hours later for the room to be ready.
[quote=itsoweezee]after snoozing for several hours, i woke up around 2pm and decided to head over to the la cafe area. i walked around for a bit to get a feel for the area. there's no real sidewalk on many streets and no stops or lights, so you have to be pretty nimble and aware of the traffic. even at 2pm on a tuesday afternoon, there were a lot of girls working the street. people weren't kidding about the girls being aggressive. i made accidental eye contact with one and she followed me for like 4 blocks. she was actually pretty cute,[/quote]welcome to pi. [quote=itsoweezee]i decided to head over to la cafe. her name was kahti i think. she was actually pretty cool to talk to, but i kept sort of ignoring her as i wanted to find someone else to take for a st session. after another beer or two, i was starting to think she wouldn't be too bad and had just about made up my mind to ask her when this cute little spinner walks in and stands right next to our table. she says her name is candy, so we start talking and it becomes obvious i'm more interested in her than kahti. kahti keeps trying to talk me into a threesome, but i'm really not feeling game for it for my first session and wanted to keep things a bit simpler. it is a bit awkward as i'm not quite sure how to get rid of kahti. finally i just tell candy i'm interested in a short time session and how much would that b. i get the 'it's up to you' answer. great. forewarning for all other first timers. just tell her what you are going to pay up front, it'll save you some headache later (if you are partial to the guilt trip). i felt a little bad for kahti so i gave her a 100php and told her maybe next time (as you can see i am partial). candy and i are off to the g-hotel.[/quote]dude throw out a price and if they don't like it they will counter. for st in manila i wouldn't pay more then 1000k.
[quote=itsoweezee]so we get in the room and get ready to take a shower. i'm getting a little nervous as she keeps hiding her body from me and saying 'i'm shy! '. everytime i look at her she covers herself 'i'm shy! '. she also doesn't look quite as good in the room as she did in the bar either. the first thing she tells me is she's had a baby as she has a few stretch marks and her tits are a little droopy even though they are small. whatever. i flew 16 hours for this, so unless something is fishy with the plumbing, this is going to happen. so we start to make out, and it becomes obvious she doesn't know how to kiss. it's all awkward and i can see her eyes open and looking around. when she goes down to blow me, it's obvious she's struggling with it and she keeps saying how big i am (not true, but she was only about 4'10" so it's all relative i guess). as gratifying as it is seeing her massaging her jaw and keep plugging away at it, i decide to return the favor and go down on her. can anyone guess what comes next?
"i don't like, i'm shy! "
this is starting to become a serious buzzkill,[/quote]this is typical filipina behavior. sometimes they are really shy, sometime they full of shit and trying to pull a fast one. after you build up your repertoire you will be able to tell which is which.
[quote=itsoweezee]. so i just flip her over doggy and bang away till i bust my nut. the irritation actually helped. afterwards (actually all the time) she is very sweet and cuddly, and even gets me going for a second round, i'm trying to coach her a bit and being more patient, but i end up just resorting to the first method. we end up killing the rest of the time just hanging out and watching tv and she says there is a really cool seafood restaurant nearby where you can buy the food from the market next door and the restaurant will cook it for you cheaply. sounds pretty interesting so i ask her if she wants to eat dinner there.[/quote]filipino bar girls like to hang out with guys they meet especially if they feel like the guy is worth hanging out with. (cool, looks like money, or naive.)
[quote=itsoweezee]i figure i'll take my leave after and head back over to la cafe to look for another girl. before we head out, i peel off 2000php and leave it by her bag figuring this would be a fair amount. she then tells me that this is not enough. it's supposed to be 3k for short time and since we did it twice it's 6k. wtf![/quote]i would have told her to go to hell man. 6k? no way son. my price scale for manila girls vst= one or two pops no more than 1000. lt=2000 multiple pops. vlt= touch cervix many times for a long period of time. half a day? no more 3500.
[quote=itsoweezee]i remind her, she said it was 'up to me', and she says she is willing to give me a 'discount' of 2k per pop. i'm a little pissed at this point, but she looks more sad than anything so i give her another 1k (i think i'm going to hear about this from a lot of people on the board, but damn i'm soft.) and tell her thats it. i'm thinking about walking at this point, but i've already spent the money and i kinda wanted to check this place out so we head out. in the cab, she's all apologetic and tells me i can fuck her for free from this point on, and what she's going to buy for her daughter with the money etc. etc. i'm not really hearing it at this point but it kind of works out in the end.[/quote]either she is off her rocker or trying to play you for a fool. stand your ground.
[quote=itsoweezee]but damn edsa is the shit.[/quote]i agree.
[quote=itsoweezee]she says she is 20 years old, and her english is not as good she winces a bit but doesn't complain.[/quote] all the girls/experiences are different some will be memorable some will be forgettable. [quote=itsoweezee]anyway, it's now 8am and i've popped 5 times in the last 24 hours. at this rate i'm going to be shooting blanks by the end of the trip.[/quote]again welcome to pi.
[quote=itsoweezee]thanks for reading. end day 1[/quote]thanks for the post.
[quote=itsoweezee]ok. first trip report for me, so here goes.
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hey man....good report....you need to understand, la cafe gets a lots of hype around this forum which is not really worth it, as its a crappy hole for old expats who live here and have plenty of time to drink and die.
i don't know why people even mention its name here, when you have plenty of other places to go. forget, about the experience with candy, the whole place stinks of low life. if you take 10 girls out from that place, you will have may be 2-3 good experience. i may be harsh on the place, but it is necessary to avoid innocent first time mongers be scammed.
i have been telling mongers to avoid la cafe since the day i visited that place, its getting promoted for no good reason other than it is owned by an australian. don't blame candy or chocolate for the bad experience, you could just avoid the whole place, and you will be safer.
edsa complex is good in that you can always see what you gonna get, and the price is fixed, the bar fine is 700 php for regular bikini girls and some model looking girls bar fine is 1500 and you pay the girls 1500 to 2500 both long time. i don't think there is any short time, if you don't say st it is taking the girls out for the night and it will be 1500 to 2500 for the girl.
however, be careful about the **** problem in edsa, lotsa japanese folks come in droves and pick girls in dozen and pack them up in a van. check the id, just to be sure.
i don't know your taste on girls, when you enter the complex, to your left, girls on cow boy hat are good for the taking, but the barfine and lt is higher, i forgot the bar name, they have a arab place on top floor, where you can select good shapely girls as i call them arab types and filipinas girls doing belly dancing.
****here is the tip, if you want good service....never select girls below 24-25 in ph..they are inexperienced....you need a girl who is in the game for atleast 2 years...experience counts in co orporate world so does in the bar world :). a girl above 25 is bit more mature and not all about action and reaction.
basically, you could have headed straight to angeles city to experience everything, the good, the bad and the best....i think there is no ugly experience in the ph.
just chill, enjoy your stay, be cool, smile around, we all go through the same motion.
try burgos street bar one after the other and select the one you like..
pick up girls from makati greenbelt area bar called havana cafe...lots of freelancer and better than la cafe vibe.
as this is your first time, you may be better with trying havana cafe freelancer girls than burgus street gogo girls, they seems to be more mature, besides it more fun there, lots of restaurant etc.
you will save more money with freelancer girls save on barfine and use that money to pick another girl :)
good luck...hope you enjoy your trip here
Ah Manila...........
I had a question about Sim cards and minutes before I left. At the airport after exiting, there is an exchange booth that, as was stated before gave $ 45.50 which was just below what I received in AC. There is also a Smart kiosk selling Sim cards and minutes that was $540 PHP, which was enough for texting during the week. The lady installed the Sim, called the number, and had my phone working prior to leaving her.
We went to one of the bars near our hotel (Omni) and while they had some hot young ladies, the quotes were out of the ballpark, $3,000 ST.
We later hit the infamous LACafe. For those who have been to Costa Rica, think the Hotel del Rey/Blue Marlin, except with more hustle. It was like a strip club. Look at a lady, and she would be right there, whether you wanted her or not. Being in TJ twice a month or so, my ability to say no is very advanced.
Anyway, after having a couple of rum & cokes, I spot a lady who looks out of place. Nicely dressed, not drinking, and by herself. I talk to her for a while, and then we go to eat in the pool room. It is average food at best. After dinner, we go back out to the bar area, and the crowd has grown to about 5-1 in our favor. The lady that I had been talking to was still by herself, and I sent over a drink (she ordered pineapple juice) that I told her I would buy earlier. A lady standing beside me asked me why I did that, and I explained that I had told her I would buy a drink for her earlier. She goes up to the lady and tells her to come sit beside me. I ask her why she didn't come over, and she says, "You didn't ask me". This is very strange in this place where a glance gets a women to you immediately, whether you want her or not.
We talked for a while and she really warmed up. She says she is a part timer (who knows), that hasn't been in for two months. She says that she is very horny, and the way she is rubbing her body on mine, and placing my hands, it must be true, after talking to her for a while. Back to the hotel, and it is game on. She does a DFK, BBBJCIM, and says the next round she wants me in her, which happens when we wake up. A total GFE experience for the standard $ 2,000 PHP LACafe exit fee.
I understand what the previous poster has said about the LACafe. It seems to be a real hustle place, but as with any venue there always seems to be the diamond in the rough. It's just that at places like the LACafe HDR/Blue Marlin the ability to say no is a must. I didn't have time to try other spots as this was my last night in PI after a week in AC.
One other thing. There is an exit tax of $700 PHP, or $16.00 USD, that must be paid in cash. I saw a guy try to pay with a credit card, and he was sent to go get cash. Make sure to have some cash with you at the airport upon leaving.
Thanks to all that gave me input prior to my first PI journey.
health & happiness to all.............
[QUOTE=Supersteve] Back to the hotel, and it is game on. She does a DFK, BBBJCIM, and says the next round she wants me in her, which happens when we wake up. A total GFE experience for the standard $ 2,000 PHP LACafe exit fee.
I understand what the previous poster has said about the LACafe. It seems to be a real hustle place, but as with any venue there always seems to be the diamond in the rough. It's just that at places like the LACafe HDR/Blue Marlin the ability to say no is a must. I didn't have time to try other spots as this was my last night in PI after a week in AC.
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Just a few notes. There is no standard Peso 2000 exit fee at LA Cafe. You negotiate with the girl and agree on a price. Mostly they say, "Whatever you think." Or, "It's up to you." You simply counter with, "I'll give you 1000 peso's and a good tip if the service is good." If she declines it just wait for another girl.
Also, you can't pick a "Diamond in the rough" at LA Cafe unless you frequent the place on a weekly basis. Do you think the girls will tell you they have been working there for 2yrs, 5yrs? Not likely. I saw a girl working there last January who I took out back in 2006. Her name was Joan and she fed me the same story about having been there only a week or so. It's all about economics. The girls at LA Cafe will tell you whatever they think works to get in your wallet, and many of them are very good at what they do. It's a business for them...only pleasure for us.
YM
I only had a brief visit to Manila this year - nothing that could be taken as statistically significant. I paid girls from LA Cafe (based largely on recommendations on this board) either 1200 or 1500. I basically said to them that that was what I paid and that it was 'up to them' lol. At G-Place, I paid 1000 which was accepted immediately.
I felt the quality of service, attractiveness of the ladies, their degree of sophistication and so on, even the ease of obtaining a good experience in a short amount of available hunting time, was far superior in all respects to AC. Fans of AC might well disagree. But I probably wouldn't hesitate to return to Manila if I had cause (based on the mongering) - especially as I had only scratched the surface so to speak. What's more, I found it fun. Though transport is not great and the options for worthwhile things other than mongering seem to require considerable effort. But LA Cafe was good value. The small bar opposite of the same name is a nice place to chill and laugh and joke if the sales pitch in the main bar becomes oppressive.
I feel a sense of some affection for the LA Cafe girls and those in the surrounding area. And the prices meant that money wasn't a big issue, and I quite like that.
My comment "who knows" was in reference to not really caring if she is there everyday, or it is her first time. I was offered a girl in AC by a mama san that I made nice to. It was her second day on the job, out of the provinces. I turned it down when she looked at me with the "deer in the headlights" look. I prefer someone who has been at P4P for a while, and am not looking for a cherry girl, or newbie. It is more about making a connection during the interview, rather than how long they have been hooking.
In P4P if a ladies lips are moving, it should be considered a lie, until data proves otherwise.
Whether she was a "diamond in the rough" is subjective. She was not at all like the first 5-6 ladies that hit on me, nor was she dressed like them. I will say that, having been around P4P for over forty years, she offered some very good quality GFE services. That is all that really matters to me.
It really doesn't matter since I don't think I will be returning to PI. For what I enjoy in P4P, I would rather be in MDE, if for no other reason than the long ass plane ride to PI.
I appreciate your input, it made me think.
Health & happiness.......
[QUOTE=Warbucks]The rookie reports are the best. No fun to read babble from a guy who thinks he knows it all. How did you find the G-hotel? I think it's cool a little dive.[/QUOTE]Someone recommended it in the 'Manila Hotels' thread. It looked pretty cool online, but much like an internet escort a little different in reality. Still not too bad, although for the price I kinda expected better. I am hoping it is much better than the Executive Suite which I was originally considering as it was much cheaper.
[QUOTE=Warbucks]Welcome to PI. Dude throw out a price and if they don't like it they will counter. For ST in Manila I wouldn't pay more then 1000K.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I learned my lesson. 'Up to you' means I throw out a price and see if they bite. Wish I read this earlier as I just pulled a girl out of LA Cafe for 1500 that I probably could have had for 1000.
[QUOTE=Warbucks]Filipino Bar girls like to hang out with guys they meet especially if they feel like the guy is worth hanging out with. (Cool, looks like money, or naive.)[/QUOTE]I probably fit the bill on all three for her. During dinner she was trying to talk me into going to her parent's house, telling me her mom would cook for me and I could drink with her dad. Wow. Not what I was expecting at all, and there was no way in hell I was going to take her up on that offer.
[QUOTE=Warbucks]I would have told her to go to hell man. 6K? No way son. My price scale for Manila girls VST= one or two pops no more than 1000. LT=2000 multiple pops. VLT= touch cervix many times for a long period of time. Half a day? No more 3500. Either she is off her rocker or trying to play you for a fool. Stand your ground.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I have to get better at that. Didn't pay her the 6K, but should have stood solid on the 2.
[QUOTE=Warbucks]All the girls/experiences are different some will be memorable some will be forgettable. Again welcome to PI.[/QUOTE]I actually quite enjoyed that last girl. I think I'm done w/ LA Cafe for now (tried again and it was OK but I think I prefer EDSA even w/ the higher prices)
[QUOTE=Warbucks]Thanks for the post.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the comments.
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]Hey Man. Good report. You need to understand, LA cafe gets a lots of hype around this forum which is not really worth it, as its a crappy hole for old expats who live here and have plenty of time to drink and die.[/QUOTE]Thanks man. Like I said, I've been reading this forum for a while now (back when it was another forum) and want to give something back (even if it will only benefit the rookies). Yeah, as I mentioned in response to a previous comment I think I'm done with that place for now. I can see the attraction, but maybe just not my cup of tea as I thought the top girls at EDSA were way better (IMHO) than the finest I saw at LA Cafe. I know they are more expensive, but what the hell. I'm on vacation.
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]I have been telling mongers to avoid LA cafe since the day I visited that place, its getting promoted for no good reason other than it is owned by an Australian. Don't blame candy or chocolate for the bad experience, you could just avoid the whole place, and you will be safer.[/QUOTE]Yeah, even though it wasn't good, it wasn't all bad. It doesn't really bother me as I see it more as an interesting experience. I did try LA Cafe again and while it wasn't bad, it still wasn't great.
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]EDSA complex is good in that you can always see what you going to get.[/QUOTE]I am totally with you on this. No stretch marks, droopy tits, belly etc. My time is short here, so I really don't want any surprises.
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]. And the price is fixed, the bar fine is 700 PHP for regular bikini girls and some model looking girls bar fine is 1500 and you pay the girls 1500 to 2500 both long time. I don't think there is any short time, if you don't say ST it is taking the girls out for the night and it will be 1500 to 2500 for the girl.[/QUOTE]OK. I'd like a little more clarification on this as I plan to hit EDSA again tonight. How do you separate the bikini girls from the model ones? Like I said, the girls I talked to (which I thought were the hottest) were all starting w/ 4K for LT. Two walked on me when I countered with 3. I guess I just need to be more patient and interview more girls?
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]. Girls on cow boy hat are good for the taking, but the barfine and LT is higher, I forgot the bar name.[/QUOTE]Hmm. I think this is where I pulled Maui out from. I recall the bartenders were all dressed up in western/cowboy outfits.
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]****Here is the tip, if you want good service. Never select girls below 24-25 in PH. They are inexperienced. You need a girl who is in the game for at least 2 years. Experience counts in corporate world so does in the bar world. A girl above 25 is bit more mature and not all about action and reaction.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you're probably right on this. However, since I will never pull girls that young in the states I always end up talking myself into it.
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]Basically, you could have headed straight to Angeles city to experience everything, the good, the bad and the best. I think there is no ugly experience in the PH.[/QUOTE]I'm actually thinking of heading there for a couple of days. I could check out early on Friday and bus it over and stay a day. Not sure if I will as I'm kind of sick of traveling right now, but then again I probably won't make it back out here anytime soon.
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]Just chill, enjoy your stay, be cool, smile around, we all go through the same motion.[/QUOTE]Again, I'm with you on this. Even though its been kind of hit and miss, I'm still enjoying it. It's an experience you know? Good or bad, you get something out of it. Will definitely check out Makati area this afternoon. Thanks for the advice!
Ok. First off, thanks for the comments/tips. They are appreciated.
My 'short snooze' at 7am ended up lasting 16 hours. Damn, when I woke up I almost forgot where I was, I checked my watch and it was 11pm! I guess I had been getting away with 5 hours of sleep or less for like 4 days or so and the bill had come due.
Anyway, headed out immediately for some food at Max's, which was around a 5 minute walk from the hotel. Pretty good fried chicken, although I think I like Popeye's better (king of fast food fried chicken!). After eating, I decided to head back to the hotel for a bit as I still was feeling a bit woozy from the long sleep and I guess having some beers with dinner didn't help either.
After relaxing for a bit, decided I wanted to head out and have a few drinks. I went to the LA Cafe (chill side) as I just wanted to zone out and drink for a bit before going out and finding a girl. Ironically, as soon as I walked in, a couple of girls were on me. I tried being polite and not showing interest, but they were pretty persistent. The girl next to me (forgot her name) would start talking to me, and after getting frustrated with my one word answers would put her head down for a nap. I'd continue drinking and every 10 minutes or so she would start talking to me again. Get tired w/ my single word answers and put her head down. Pretty weird.
After a few beers and a shot of Jamesons (TIP: Hard Liquor is expensive and you will ONLY get 1oz per drink. Think it was like 220PHP and it was barely a sip. Not recommended) I decided to head over to LA Cafe to give it another shot. It was already 3AM so I wanted to get something pretty quick. When I walked in, it looked pretty crowded. Not packed, but definitely more people than the previous afternoon. Walked around for a bit and didn't see anything particularly interesting although there were a few maybes. Decided to try the upstairs section and it was totally dead. Handful of girls already sitting with guys.
I head back downstairs and circle around for like another hour and still haven't found anyone I really wanted to pull the trigger on. Talked to a few girls, but didn't find anyone really interesting. There was a girl playing pool in the back with a HUGE rack (her tits, not the billiard kind). It was almost ridiculously large on her. I do say 'almost' as I totally wanted to bang her. Unfortunately she was pretty much surrounded and all my attempts at eye contact were not returned.
As it was almost 430am I decided I should just pick one already. Decided on a cute little spinner (my tastes are becoming obvious) after talking to her for a bit. Asked her how much for ST and she said 'Up to you'. Having learned my lesson from the previous day, I offered 1500 which she immediately accepted. (TIP: Apparently you can get by with offering 1000. Read a post comment too late.) So we head out of the bar and are immediately surrounded by the dregs hanging around outside. Trying to sell me flowers, condoms, get me a taxi etc. I am waving them off and proceeding down the street and they continue hounding us up to and including trying to get in the taxi. All the while I'm saying get the hell away and continue to be pestered for money. Finally they [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off after yelling all kinds of insults. Actually in retrospect they were yelling at each other too as I think they were competing for people to ripoff. So another tip (which I had read earlier and forgot) have the girl meet you down the street. Definitely worthwhile as you (usually) don't get bothered if you leave alone.
So we get back to the hotel and again, I am underwhelmed when she gets undressed. Not bad, but not what I thought when I saw her in the club. No stretch marks, but tits a little droopy *she says she's 21, looks like she's in high school. WTF with these droopy tits?!! * We start off with some kissing and she pulls out my cock and starts blowing me. Things are definitely getting much better. We decide to take a shower and get down to business. I figure it's time to break out the rabbit since he has been neglected up until this point, but she's not into it. Damn.
Go to missionary and she is clearly enjoying herself (me too) and I flip her over for doggy. I can see her start rubbing her clit, so I grab that rabbit turn it on max and apply it for her. Yeah! That turned up the heat!. No penetration, but at least a warmup for the rabbit! I'm banging away worried I'm going to nut too soon, she's juicing all over the place, and all of a sudden noodle dick! What the hell? I rip off the rubber, wipe off my dick and stick it in her mouth but it will only get semi-hard. I'm thinking it's the booze, hour whatever. We try fucking again, and same thing! Stick it back in her mouth, and again, semi-hard. I'm kinda wigging out, never WANTED to fuck and couldn't get it up (NOTE: Being totally shit faced drunk doesn't count). Anyway, after taking a quick break and cuddling for a bit, we go at it again. This time in cowgirl, after a few minutes of this I'm pumping her ass up and down like a jackhammer as I can feel I'm on the edge, and DAMN after working so hard for the O, I bust a huge nut. Even after, I keep working that ass as it feels so good. When she finally gets off, the damn rubber slips off and I'm covered in goo. Great.
At this point it's 630am and I really don't feel trying for a second round. I pay her the 1500, throw in a few chocolates and she's happy and out the door. I immediately scold my dick for scaring the shit out of me but he's a selfish bastard and doesn't care cause he's a prick.
Not bad, but I think it's EDSA for me from now. Going to check out Makati today as well.
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[QUOTE=Yella Man]Just a few notes. There is no standard Peso 2000 exit fee at LA Cafe. You negotiate with the girl and agree on a price. Mostly they say, "Whatever you think. " Or, "It's up to you. " You simply counter with, "I'll give you 1000 peso's and a good tip if the service is good. " If she declines it just wait for another girl.
Also, you can't pick a "Diamond in the rough" at LA Cafe unless you frequent the place on a weekly basis. Do you think the girls will tell you they have been working there for 2yrs, 5yrs? Not likely. I saw a girl working there last January who I took out back in 2006. Her name was Joan and she fed me the same story about having been there only a week or so. It's all about economics. The girls at LA Cafe will tell you whatever they think works to get in your wallet, and many of them are very good at what they do. It's a business for them. Only pleasure for us.
YM[/QUOTE]I second this. My first time here, second day and this is now obvious to me. All the girls say the same thing. Also, definitely no standard exit fee for tax. You either got took (I did too, but in a different way), or were at a different bar. No harm, not much over the standard rate anyway although the exit tax thing sucks. Who did you pay it too? I would think it this was a scam by the staff you could go back and at least complain about it.
Being a lover of Phils P4P, I just have to ask?
What/where is MDE?
[QUOTE=Supersteve]My comment "who knows" was in reference to not really caring if she is there everyday, or it is her first time. I was offered a girl in AC by a mama san that I made nice to. It was her second day on the job, out of the provinces. I turned it down when she looked at me with the "deer in the headlights" look. I prefer someone who has been at P4P for a while, and am not looking for a cherry girl, or newbie. It is more about making a connection during the interview, rather than how long they have been hooking.
In P4P if a ladies lips are moving, it should be considered a lie, until data proves otherwise.
Whether she was a "diamond in the rough" is subjective. She was not at all like the first 5-6 ladies that hit on me, nor was she dressed like them. I will say that, having been around P4P for over forty years, she offered some very good quality GFE services. That is all that really matters to me.
It really doesn't matter since I don't think I will be returning to PI. For what I enjoy in P4P, I would rather be in MDE, if for no other reason than the long ass plane ride to PI.
I appreciate your input, it made me think.
Health & happiness.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cheapy]Being a lover of Phils P4P, I just have to ask?
What/where is MDE?[/QUOTE]
Michigan Department of Education? Maybe not. Try Medellin.
[QUOTE=Itsoweezee] There was a girl playing pool in the back with a HUGE rack (her tits, not the billiard kind). It was almost ridiculously large on her. [/QUOTE]
Wow, that's a rarity for LAC. No wonder she was surrounded.
[QUOTE=Itsoweezee] No stretch marks, but tits a little droopy *she says she's 21, looks like she's in high school. WTF with these droopy tits?!! [/QUOTE]
Doesn't seem, however, that you are having much luck in the tits department;).
[QUOTE=Itsoweezee] So we head out of the bar and are immediately surrounded by the dregs hanging around outside. Trying to sell me flowers, condoms, get me a taxi etc. I am waving them off and proceeding down the street and they continue hounding us up to and including trying to get in the taxi. [/QUOTE]
Yes, they are a pain and a menace. I always ask the girl to follow me and then dodge around the corner onto Salas. 50 yards up the road is the access road for Roxas Boulevard with lots of taxis.
Best of luck in your continuing adventures in Manila. Keep the reports coming.
Sorry about the MDE reference, yes it is Medellin, Colombia.
As I said about P4P women, if their lips are moving they are lying.
The exit tax is at the airport in Manila, and trust me, all had to pay it on the day I left. That being said, I would assume from the set-up, it is a tax all have to pay always. You do not get to immigration to exit unless you have paid it. I had never heard of the exit tax prior to arriving at the airport. Just keep $700 PHP or $16.00 USD, in cash, with you for departure. If you don't have cash, they will kick you out of line until you have cash, as I saw this happen. You would probably need to find an ATM somewhere. That was a hassle I wouldn't want at that point. No credit cards taken by them.
Also, something that I enjoyed was the VIP lounge at the Manila airport. I had a little over three hour lay over. It is not connected with any airline, and probably run by the airport. It was about 600 PHP with a small buffet, beer, wine, soft drinks, cold milk, and hot soup, all you could eat or drink. They have nice chairs, plenty of pugs to charge electronics, and quiet. It made the 3+ hours more bearable.
Health & happiness to all..............
[QUOTE=Itsoweezee]Ok. First off, thanks for the comments/tips. They are appreciated.[/QUOTE]No thank you for the infotainment. The reports are what it is all about. This thread seems to get tied down in geriatric bureaucracy from time to time.
[QUOTE=Itsoweezee]Anyway, headed out immediately for some food at Max's,[/QUOTE]You have to try the shrimp.
[QUOTE=Itsoweezee]I head back downstairs and circle around for like another hour and still haven't found anyone I really wanted to pull the trigger on. Talked to a few girls, but didn't find anyone really interesting. There was a girl playing pool in the back with a HUGE rack (her tits, not the billiard kind). It was almost ridiculously large on her. I do say 'almost' as I totally wanted to bang her. Unfortunately she was pretty much surrounded and all my attempts at eye contact were not returned.[/QUOTE]LOL. A Filipina with huge tits/ass is rare so you can imagine how most LA Café shoppers feel when presented with this. I am sure due to her um "gifts" she had her pick of wallets for the evening.
[QUOTE=Itsoweezee]As it was almost 430am I decided I should just pick one already. Decided on a cute little spinner (my tastes are becoming obvious) after talking to her for a bit. Asked her how much for ST and she said 'Up to you'. Having learned my lesson from the previous day, I offered 1500 which she immediately accepted. (TIP: Apparently you can get by with offering 1000. Read a post comment too late.)[/QUOTE]That's the spirit.
[QUOTE=Itsoweezee]So we head out of the bar and are immediately surrounded by the dregs hanging around outside. Trying to sell me flowers, condoms, get me a taxi etc. I am waving them off and proceeding down the street and they continue hounding us up to and including trying to get in the taxi. All the while I'm saying get the hell away and continue to be pestered for money.[/QUOTE]LOL. Again welcome to Manila. Just ignore these guys with your ears but not with your eyes stay aware of your surroundings. The panhandling bum rush could be used as a smoke screen.
[QUOTE=Itsoweezee]Finally they [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off after yelling all kinds of insults. Actually in retrospect they were yelling at each other too as I think they were competing for people to ripoff. So another tip (which I had read earlier and forgot) have the girl meet you down the street. Definitely worthwhile as you (usually) don't get bothered if you leave alone.[/QUOTE]LOL. Mayne don't shout insults at the locals. Just as I said above ignore them and keep it moving as long as they don't invade your personal space. I have found the locals especially the males to be petty and sensitive. You don't won't end up like other ISG members with a Pumpkin head or involuntarily light pockets. As for bailing without the broad. Don't know about this one. These are her people she will know how to deal with them if they become a problem.
[QUOTE=Itsoweezee]So we get back to the hotel and again, I am underwhelmed when she gets undressed. Not bad, but not what I thought when I saw her in the club. No stretch marks, but tits a little droopy *she says she's 21, looks like she's in high school. WTF with these droopy tits?! *[/QUOTE]Ever heard of beer goggles? Well what about Club goggles. That's a term coined by me when you see a girl at the club all dolled up and she looks hot but when you get back to the room your like maybe I had to many. Don't worry happens to the best of us every once in awhile but for some ISG members this seems to be their forte
[QUOTE=Itsoweezee]. It's time to break out the rabbit since he has been neglected up until this point, but she's not into it. Damn.[/QUOTE]I never understood the point of the toys. Only show up with hard dick and bubble gum. Make sure you're out of bubble gum.
[QUOTE=Itsoweezee]! I'm banging away worried I'm going to nut too soon, she's juicing all over the place, and all of a sudden noodle dick! What the hell? I rip off the rubber, wipe off my dick and stick it in her mouth but it will only get semi-hard. I'm thinking it's the booze, hour whatever. We try fucking again, and same thing! Stick it back in her mouth, and again, semi-hard. I'm kinda wigging out, never WANTED to fuck and couldn't get it up (NOTE: Being totally shit faced drunk doesn't count).[/QUOTE]Probably should have indulged one of the Viagra vendors. You on vacation mayne don't let a limp pole get in the way.
[QUOTE=Itsoweezee]Going to check out Makati today as well.
End Day 2[/QUOTE]For Makati woe. Is he of little wallet.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Wow, that's a rarity for LAC. No wonder she was surrounded.[/QUOTE]Yes, I'm not kidding about ridiculous, she literally looked like she was about to tip over. Whenever she leaned over for a shot (tank top naturally), her tits would just sort of 'settle' on the table.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Doesn't seem, however, that you are having much luck in the tits department.[/QUOTE]Definitely not. Had another A Cup girl today but she made up for it in other ways. Not really a big tit guy normally, but all the small tits are making me want for variety. I think for my last night, will definitely have to pull 2 girls, with the main criteria for one of them having a sizeable chest.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Yes, they are a pain and a menace. I always ask the girl to follow me and then dodge around the corner onto Salas. 50 yards up the road is the access road for Roxas Boulevard with lots of taxis.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I think I might compile a list of all the most useful tips at the end of the report if it seems like there are enough to be helpful. This one is definitely up there.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Best of luck in your continuing adventures in Manila. Keep the reports coming.[/QUOTE]Thanks. The next one is going to be good or bad depending on your point of view. Still fun though.
[QUOTE=Supersteve]The exit tax is at the airport in Manila, and trust me, all had to pay it on the day I left. That being said, I would assume from the set-up, it is a tax all have to pay always. You do not get to immigration to exit unless you have paid it. I had never heard of the exit tax prior to arriving at the airport. Just keep $700 PHP or $16. 00 USD, in cash, with you for departure. If you don't have cash, they will kick you out of line until you have cash, as I saw this happen. You would probably need to find an ATM somewhere. That was a hassle I wouldn't want at that point. No credit cards taken by them.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I misread your earlier report, thought the exit tax applied to LA Cafe. Thanks for the tip!
[QUOTE=Supersteve]Sorry about the MDE reference, yes it is Medellin, Colombia.
As I said about P4P women, if their lips are moving they are lying.
The exit tax is at the airport in Manila, and trust me, all had to pay it on the day I left. That being said, I would assume from the set-up, it is a tax all have to pay always. You do not get to immigration to exit unless you have paid it. I had never heard of the exit tax prior to arriving at the airport. Just keep $700 PHP or $16.00 USD, in cash, with you for departure. If you don't have cash, they will kick you out of line until you have cash, as I saw this happen. You would probably need to find an ATM somewhere. That was a hassle I wouldn't want at that point. No credit cards taken by them.
Also, something that I enjoyed was the VIP lounge at the Manila airport. I had a little over three hour lay over. It is not connected with any airline, and probably run by the airport. It was about 600 PHP with a small buffet, beer, wine, soft drinks, cold milk, and hot soup, all you could eat or drink. They have nice chairs, plenty of pugs to charge electronics, and quiet. It made the 3+ hours more bearable.
Health & happiness to all..............[/QUOTE]Super steve
About 2 yr ago when I dep the airport forgot about the Depature tax and I was just short about 80 peso, they will not except any other currency like HKD or RMB only USD or peso, I have use up all my USD so I have to cash my Amex check 500 USD for just a lousy 80 peso.
Fast Eddie 48
after i type my day 2 report, i look up and it's almost 10am already. damn i was supposed to switch to a new room with a king sized bed. due to the early check-in i had to settle for two twins pushed together (with beds this is settling, with girls this is awesome). after i call the front desk get packed up and move to my new room it's just after 12.
i check the forum and see i got a pm from manta ray who wants to have a few beers. great! i figure i'll go get some lunch then give him a call. there is a shakey's near the g-hotel (about 2 minutes walk towards la cafe next to max's) and as i haven't seen one of those since i was in elementary school (we all loved it back then), i figure i'll venture in for a try. as i remember, you can get fried chicken, spaghetti, or pizza. hell you can get all three on one plate. chicken is not bad, but i haven't had much appetite here in the phillippines and can't even get through the small plate.
i get back to the hotel and call manta ray who has some things to do in the afternoon but suggests we meet around 8 at the havana cafe in makati greenbelt 3. i was going to head there in the early afternoon but decide to leave later. i try taking a nap as at this point i've been awake 15 hours and if don't get some in before tonight, i'll be awake for over 24 hours again. my sleep clock is all screwed up and no luck. i recall reading on the board that someone had gotten cialis from a mercury pharmacy near greenbelt 3, so based on the previous night (mornings?) mechanical difficulties it might not be a bad idea to give it a try as well.
get over to greenbelt at around 530 or so. 200php fare (about 50p overpaid). the mall is freaking huge. mostly upscale shops where things cost more than the us. i walked into diesel to look for a belt and found a pretty nice one for 5, 995 php. wait. huh? that's about $130 us. walk around a little more and it's mostly the same. overpriced designer shit. well made designer shit, but definitely overpriced. as i'm walking through the mall, i realize i don't like doing this back in the us. why the hell am i doing it here? let's go see about that cialis.
i walk across the street, and there's another mall, definitely much more affordable and i walk into the mercury pharmacy. i'm a little nervous as there's all sorts of regular folk getting their medicine and most of the staff is female. i decide to wait in the line for the guy pharmacist even though it takes quite a few minutes longer. i keep waving people over to the women pharmacists. when i get to the counter, i discreetly lean over and whisper 'i need some cialis'. 'how much? ' he replies.
shit, this is going to be easy!
'four' i say. wasn't sure how much these things cost, i was thinking about 3-5 us was mentioned in some other post. when he walks back over he asks me if i have my prescription. i'm thinking of all kinds of bullshit excuses and finally just come up with 'i forgot it'. 'bring it next time' he replies. aw yeah! fire in the hole baby!
and then he rings up the four tablets. it was about 3, 500php. damn, i guess i'll just take two.
*i know the india version is available on the streets for much cheaper (like 500php for 4 or something), but i've seen it reported on the internets that these are sometimes not being mixed/dosed correctly, and was also a little concerned about what other quality control problems there could b. *
after that, i head over to havana cafe to meet manta ray. he gets there about 8 and we have a few drinks and the conversation starts with p4p here, how things have changed (a little history of manila p4p scene), other places he's been. the conversation drifts to all kinds of topics unrelated to the forum but interesting conversation nonetheless (i mean, you can't talk about pussy for 3 hours straight can you? well i'm sure some of the board members probably can.). soon after his lady friend joins us and the conversation switches to more reputable subjects, at this point it's getting late and i've been awake 24 hours. the drinks and lack of sleep are starting to hit me. i need to get to edsa now if this is ever going to happen! i take my leave and wish manta and his lady friend a pleasant evening and head off to take a taxi to edsa.
*thanks to manta ray for taking the time out, definitely a cool guy and worth trying to meet if you're in the area.
in the cab i realize i've spent more than i thought and forgot my damn bank card in the room safe. shit, now i have to book back to the g-hotel and then to edsa which loses me another 150 or so in cab fare, not to mention time. then i realize it's about 3 dollars and 30 minutes and i don't really care. at least i can do a little cialis research before i take the damn thing.
i decide to take half a pill and get some cash from the nearby atm. i jump in the cab and note that i took the pill at about 1230 and it's almost 1. on the ride over, i notice i'm standing at half mast and with just a little mental effort, i can push it to full mast. trouble is bringing it back down. he does so very reluctantly.
when we get to edsa the touts are out and about. very grabby which i don't like, and let them know it. say all the shit you want but don't put your hands on me. i circle the bars and settle on firehouse as it's supposed to be the best. immediately as i walk in, i'm swarmed by six girls. holy crap, they're all grabbing me and my dick nearly busts through my pants. damn that cialis is really working. mamasan tells me to pick one to sit with, and all the girls do their damndest to make their case. i finally pick a cute little spinner (sigh, i am so predictable) that i felt like i gelled with a little. i figure i'll buy her a drink and do some interviewing and if i don't like her answers i'll just move on.
'are you a shy girl? '
'sometimes, but when i'm in the room with you, i will not be shy! '
ok, that's kind of a pass.
'do you like sex? '
'of course! i love sex! '
pass.
'do you mind pictures? '
'if i'm naked, no face. otherwise is ok'.
acceptable pass.
'i really like long bj's. do you like giving them? '
'yes, i like to suck! ' all the while she is rubbing my cock which is furiously trying to break through my pants to see whats going on.
definite pass.
'do you like having your pussy licked? '
'yes, i love to have my pussy licked! very much! '
flying colors so far!
now time to ask one for my buddy roger.
'do you like sex toys? '
*she bursts out laughing*
'yes! i been with many japanese customers, they all like sex toys! '
woo-hoo! let's hit the fuckin' road!
bar fine = 1400, st = 2500. i'm so ready to go i don't even bargain (yes, yes, extremely bad form, but did you see her report card above?!)
all through the interview we are having drinks and making out and it's all making me really, really, stupid.
this is the first girl i'm really clicking with. her english is good and the back and forth is really working and i cannot wait to bang this chick. she is telling me she feels so comfortable with me and feels a connection, and i feel the same. so we head out and grab a cab back to the hotel all the while necking in the back seat. i can taste the vodka in her mouth and am sucking it off her tongue. by the time we get back we are ready to go! we both shower quickly and get on the bed and start aggressively making out, mouths all over each other, rolling to one side of the bed, then the other. i've got my fingers in her pussy and it's really wet and she's moaning all kinds of shit. i'm trying to remember finger banging 101 (up and hook for g spot, down and back to simulate fucking!) i'm sure i'm fucking it up but it is working and then i go down on her (passes the smell test) and i'm sucking on her pussy and working her clit with my tongue and alternating all up and down and all around. i get my whole mouth on her and suck to create a vacuum and this seems to please as well, all the while teasing my tongue around her clit then flicking it gently.
finally i break out the rabbit. 'you want this baby? ' 'yes, yes, please. ' finally buddy, you're going to get yours! i end up fucking her with that thing for 20 minutes or so making her come twice. the rabbit vibrator has these two ears that reach the clit, and you can put the ears on either side of her clit and crank the vibration level (it goes pretty high) and watch her go! i'm adding in some tongue, spitting on her pussy which seems to work with the vibration and enjoying it almost as much as she is.
after her second o, she jumps me and her mouth is all over me, face, neck, her tongue in my ear, sucking/biting my nipples and down on my cock and she buries her face in my balls and tongues them endlessly. she works her way up and down me, using her hand and body on my cock while she's dfk'ing me and humping my leg with her pussy. up and down repeatedly, this is some good shit! this goes on for a while, then i tell her i'm want to fuck her. 'yes, baby fuck me! '
while we roll over into position she jumps up and runs to the bathroom, 'i have to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]! ' all the drinks i guess, but she's still going to pay for it. while she's in there i grab a pillow off the bed and drop it on the floor near the door, and stand next to it. soon as she gets out she drops to her knees and starts sucking me again with bls till my engine is in overdrive. i pick her up and throw her on the bed, pushing her legs in the air and start fucking her on the edge of the bed. i can feel her pussy gripping me tight (someone has been doing her kegels) and i'm pumping her hard. we finally flip over for doggy and i start off at medium speed my cock is rock hard, and i'm thinking i should have come a long time ago. this cialis is the shit. then i start worrying if i'm going to be able to come, because as good as this feels, i'm nowhere near the edge. so i start banging her harder and she's responding, her face is buried in the bed and i can hear her gutteral moans 'fuck, i'm coming again baby! ' and it's fucking turning me on, so i go faster and faster and am reward with more. i look down and the rubber is white with her goo. at this point, i'm damn near max speed and i want to pound her as hard as i can as she's taking it all. i'm slapping her ass, tweaking her nipples and pushing her face into the bed even further and still i can hear her moaning, finally i'm at the point where i want to put her through the wall and then i cum and i swear i can see fucking stars.
whew! i'm rubber legged at that point, we kiss for a bit and i head over to the bathroom to cleanup, we've been going at it for about 90 minutes. probably one of, if not the longest continuous sessions i've had. (no snide remarks from the guys who get this shit all the time) when i head out, she goes in to shower and i'm thinking we're going to get a little cuddle time in, but i'm really not up for another session as there's no time and i feel drained and realize i've been awake for 30 hours. hopefully she won't want to stay too long, as i'm pretty beat and really need to get some sleep.
and she comes out fully dressed and ready to go. i'm a little stunned at this point, she's just going to split, after this mind blowing session?
'your name was xxxx right? i can just tell them at the front desk and they won't try to keep me right? '
'um yeah. ' i count out her money and she thanks me and kisses me again.
'can i get 100 for cab fare? '
'sure' i say and i peel off a note and hand it to her wordlessly.
she kisses me again and says 'bye' and is out the door.
i'm still in sort of a sex fog, coupled with the lack of sleep (like being stoned without the happiness) and booze, but i'm feeling a bit hurt by this whole thing. what happened to our 'connection'? was she just totally acting and conning me? what the hell?
so i'm out on the balcony smoking a cigarette, then i realize. she didn't play me. i played myself. i got exactly what i was supposed to get out of the deal. a great fuck. all that other shit just helped that fuck happen. another lesson learned, and the best ones should always cost a little something. otherwise they are forgotten.
now i have to go and console my rabbit. i mean, shit he did lose his virginity to her. sigh.
end day 3
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[QUOTE=Warbucks]No thank you for the infotainment. The reports are what it is all about. This thread seems to get tied down in geriatric bureaucracy from time to time.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I agree. I used to read a poster called Dickhead in the Argentina forums in the another forum days I think. He was a riot.
[QUOTE=Warbucks]You have to try the shrimp.[/QUOTE]Will probably give it a go. Don't see a lot of places I'd like to try near the hotel.
[QUOTE=Warbucks]LOL. A Filipina with huge tits/ass is rare so you can imagine how most LA Café shoppers feel when presented with this. I am sure due to her um "gifts" she had her pick of wallets for the evening.[/QUOTE]Yeah, she didn't seem to be in rotation. Hung out in the same place playing pool with all kinds of guys stationed nearby.
[QUOTE=Warbucks]LOL. Mayne don't shout insults at the locals. Just as I said above ignore them and keep it moving as long as they don't invade your personal space. I have found the locals especially the males to be petty and sensitive. You don't won't end up like other ISG members with a Pumpkin head or involuntarily light pockets. As for bailing without the broad. Don't know about this one. These are her people she will know how to deal with them if they become a problem.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I actually grew up around a lot of immigrant Filipinos. Lots of them carried blades and the wrong look would get you a knife in the belly. Hyper macho culture. (The local ones were mostly cool though. Had a lot of friends)
[QUOTE=Warbucks]Ever heard of beer goggles? Well what about Club goggles. That's a term coined by me when you see a girl at the club all dolled up and she looks hot but when you get back to the room your like maybe I had to many. Don't worry happens to the best of us every once in awhile but for some ISG members this seems to be their forte[/QUOTE]I think this is becoming mine. I could probably make some scratch by vetting girls for other punters. If I want to pull her out of the club, avoid.
[QUOTE=Warbucks]I never understood the point of the toys. Only show up with hard dick and bubble gum. Make sure you're out of bubble gum.[/QUOTE]Never really used 'them before either. Thought it might be fun for this trip, I like giving girls orgasms and it's somewhat easy to give them multiples with just moderate effort. Consider it a warm up act if you will.
[QUOTE=Warbucks]Probably should have indulged one of the Viagra vendors. You on vacation mayne don't let a limp pole get in the way.[/QUOTE]See Day 3 Post.
[QUOTE=Itsoweezee]Yeah, I misread your earlier report, thought the exit tax applied to LA Cafe. Thanks for the tip![/QUOTE]
Very good info. I will make my cherry trip in May, spending my last 2 days in Manila. My plan is to hit La Cafe, EDSA, Cafe Havana and Palacio Don Pedro.
Have you tried any massage places yet? Thanks
[QUOTE=Oakwood99]Very good info. I will make my cherry trip in May, spending my last 2 days in Manila. My plan is to hit La Cafe, EDSA, Cafe Havana and Palacio Don Pedro.
Have you tried any massage places yet? Thanks[/QUOTE]
Palacio Don Pedro is a massage place. Well-run and the girls are well-trained in massage too. Expect to use a condom though (which is fine by me because I always do anyway).
You might also like to try Phoenix Massage which is on the 3rd floor of Roman Suites, a small apartelle in Pasay Road behind New World Hotel in Makati. Just walk out of Greenbelt across towards New World, turn right and walk past New World to the next corner and take a left (with New World still on your left side) and you will see Roman Suites in front of you.
Igonore reception and go up the stairs on your left to a small landing, then take another set of stairs on the left against the wall and you will reach the fishbowl area.
Special rates before 7 pm (same as Palacio Don Pedro). Both are similar and both clean and well-run.
I alternate between them.
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]EDSA complex is good in that you can always see what you gonna get, and the price is fixed, the bar fine is 700 PHP for regular bikini girls and some model looking girls bar fine is 1500 and you pay the girls 1500 to 2500 both long time. I don't think there is any short time, if you don't say ST it is taking the girls out for the night and it will be 1500 to 2500 for the girl. [/QUOTE]
BL5, When was the last time you were in EDSA? Those prices (700p) are no where close to being correct.
Robb
[QUOTE=Robbaf]BL5, When was the last time you were in EDSA? Those prices (700p) are no where close to being correct.
Robb[/QUOTE]Born /robb,
That must be over 8 yr ago first time I was there back in 2002 barfine is 800 peso then now is about 1500 peso way too much and you need to tip the girl on top of that, just take a taxi and go to AC where thing is much cheaper, cost of living in Manila has gone up alot in 10 yr hotel, food, monger has more than double don't how the local can survive.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Born /robb,
That must be over 8 yr ago first time I was there back in 2002 barfine is 800 peso then now is about 1500 peso way too much and you need to tip the girl on top of that, just take a taxi and go to AC where thing is much cheaper, cost of living in Manila has gone up alot in 10 yr hotel, food, monger has more than double don't how the local can survive.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
I know what you mean. I am in AC right now and I did 9 trips to AC last year.
Robb
[QUOTE=Oakwood99]Very good info. I will make my cherry trip in May, spending my last 2 days in Manila. My plan is to hit La Cafe, EDSA, Cafe Havana and Palacio Don Pedro.
Have you tried any massage places yet? Thanks[/QUOTE]No, haven't tried any massage places yet, and time is running short for me (leaving tomorrow). I do have a late flight, so may check it out if I have some time.
LA Cafe is not my thing, but it is relatively cheap for Manila. 1K. 1. 5K seems to be the rate. Few pieces of advice. Choose well and trust your instincts. Avoid the dregs outside like the plague. Don't talk to any of them.
EDSA: A bit pricier, but I think what you will be happy with whatever you choose, so long as you interview first. Girls may not be *quite* as pretty as they appear in the bar, but they are close. 1. 4 / 1. 5K BF. Tips seem to be all over the place, but I'd guess 1. 5. 2. 5K for ST and 3K and up for LT (depending on how hot the girls is)
Cafe Havana: Was only there to meet Manta Ray for drinks, so can't comment on actually taking home any girls, but there appeared to be quite a few pretty girls looking for a date. You'll need to spot them though, Manta Ray was pointing them out to me throughout the night.
Good luck on your trip. I'm sure at least one of these places will fit the bill for you.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Palacio Don Pedro is a massage place. Well-run and the girls are well-trained in massage too. Expect to use a condom though (which is fine by me because I always do anyway).
You might also like to try Phoenix Massage which is on the 3rd floor of Roman Suites, a small apartelle in Pasay Road behind New World Hotel in Makati. Just walk out of Greenbelt across towards New World, turn right and walk past New World to the next corner and take a left (with New World still on your left side) and you will see Roman Suites in front of you.
Igonore reception and go up the stairs on your left to a small landing, then take another set of stairs on the left against the wall and you will reach the fishbowl area.
Special rates before 7 pm (same as Palacio Don Pedro). Both are similar and both clean and well-run.
I alternate between them.[/QUOTE]
Thanks RK
What are the rates?
[QUOTE=Oakwood99]Thanks RK
What are the rates?[/QUOTE]To Oakwod,
Rate for don pedro and roman spa is about the same 1200 peso to the house and massage and 1500 peso for tip to the girl for FS, I like Roman better quality of the girl and the room.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Oakwood99]Thanks RK
What are the rates?[/QUOTE]
I visited Palacio Don Pedro at around 8:30 pm on a weekday evening last week. At the front desk I was immediately welcomed and informed that the price was 3000 Pesos, all inclusive--1500 P for the room and 1500 P for the girl, for massage including 'extra service', for 90 minutes. The guy did not offer choices of this and that, simply 3000 P all in--easy enough!
So, I paid 1500 at the front desk, then proceeded upstairs to the fishbowl. There were about 15 gals there at the time, ranging from around a 5 to 8 out of 10. Quite a few looked sexy, though perhaps a bit more voluptuous than I usually like. I told the guy I would like a gal who is very slim and gives great service (no doubt the same request as 90% of the punters there!). He immediately pointed out a gal in the back row (number 10 if I remember correctly), and told me she would be right for me.
Sure enough she looked very slim and attractive so I quickly said OK. From there he guided me to the room, on the 4th floor. Fairly spartan room but definitely big and clean enough, with a queen sized bed and an adequately functional and clean bathroom with shower.
I waited there for around 5 mins after which there was a knock at the door--my gal. Indeed, she was very slim, and nice looking. She came in and we introduced ourselves, chatted a bit and she asked me if I want to take a shower.
Fairly functional shower session, but also friendly, with lots of chatting. Then on to the bed for the massage. At that point she asked me if I wanted 'extra service', so I said, 'of course', and she laughed. She got out the baby oil and went to work. She definitely was trained in massage, as her technique was very good, with lots of firm kneading and stretching. She was nude during the massage, which always helps! About 10 minutes with me lying on my front, then she flipped me over, for another 10 minutes. All in all, around 20 minutes or so for the massage, which seems about right as an mood-setting appetizer for a 90 min session.
Then play time. She rummaged in her bag for a condom, then started kissing my nipples, rubbing junior into attention, and heading south with her tongue. She somehow managed to slip a condom on me without breaking stride and proceeded to give a quite good CBJ, until I positioned her on her back to return the favor--couldnt let that nice, super slim body go to wasted, now could I!
I went to work with my tongue and eventually settled into full DATY mode, which she indeed seemed to enjoy. A while of that, and I headed north with my tongue, and the one slight disappointment was that she did not really want to do any mouth to mouth kissing, so I didn't press it.
From there, she was ready for it, so she guided me in Mish style. For such a small gal, she had no prob, accepting all of me (though I must admit, I am not huge) and her sounds seemed to say that she was enjoying the ride--though of course I have no idea how much of the noises were 'rehearsed'. At any rate, she did her job admirably and I popped in good time--long enough for me to enjoy the 'process', but not so long to give her any pain, stress or boredom.
After that, about 10-15 minutes of pleasant bedtime chatter with a bit of cuddling, until she asked me if I'd like a shower. So, back to the bathroom where we lingered over washing and more chatting. She dried me off, then back to the room to get dressed, then time was about up. I fairly discreetly put 1500 in her bag, making sure she could see all the bills. At that point, I also decided that I would not mind requesting her again, as the service with her may very well be a bit more intimate the second time, so I handed her a few hundred pesos and just said, 'and a little 'thank you' from me, for next time.' She seemed very pleased with that!
All in all, a nice, slim gal, no hassles, no hidden costs, and a pleasant enough experience.
MantaRay
[QUOTE=Manta Ray]
He immediately pointed out a gal in the back row (number 10 if I remember correctly), and told me she would be right for me.
Sure enough she looked very slim and attractive so I quickly said OK. .......
MantaRay[/QUOTE]
Great description Manta. Hey we must have the same good taste. I chose #10 too and my experience matches yours exactly step by step.
She is a cutie and well worth a second trip for me too.
I hope you didn't raise her expectations too high and spoil her for me with your superb performance lol.
[QUOTE=Robbaf]BL5, When was the last time you were in EDSA? Those prices (700p) are no where close to being correct.
Robb[/QUOTE]
yeah....it was last year....and i made the trip like three four times before settling in Manila. The barfine is higher now as reported, crap i just can't believe the cost of living here has gone up in one year :(
[QUOTE=Itsoweezee]After I type my Day 2 Report, I look up and it's almost 10am already. Damn I was supposed to switch to a new room with a king sized bed. Due to the early check-in I had to settle for two twins pushed together (with beds this is settling, with girls this is awesome). After I call the front desk get packed up and move to my new room it's just after 12.
[/QUOTE]
Great report once again. You did good research before venturing and enjoyed like a pro monger :) . I don't know if you still in Manila. some tips.
You don't have to think much about urchins and flower sellers in front of LA cafe or beggars etc anywhere in the PH or Asia. They should not bother you at all. I may be encouraging them, but i can't bring myself to think that i just spend so much on drinks, girls and some 10 pesos isn't gonna harm anyone. I just give some couple of 10 20 pesos to the urchins and olds guys out there and the front door men in bars i visit. and they have a big smile on their face and thats enough for me.
Guess, this is the difference between folks living in Asia and one from developed country, we have accepted begging a part of city life and don't even think about it. It was only after coming here and hearing from western mongers that i even thought that people worry about going to bars and street cos of beggars. Then i realized that, they haven't experienced what we do and live as part of our life's. If you want to truly experience Asia, you have to let go of urchins and folks trying to annoy you. Its a part of social life in big cities. You can't avoid them, they will be there for ever, i have accepted them as part of socio-economic problems in developing countries.
I'm more concerned about the Taxi drivers and fraud meters they use. Always, tell them to use meter and even with that, never ever pay more than 200 pesos for going anywhere in Manila, in the outskirts it comes to 250. Do not give tips to taxi drivers, give exact change and insist on taking you change back, else 50 -70 pesos for them is like a tip. so ask for money back.
I'm from India and i have used all kinds of boner pills, foreign and Indian, though, generic brands may never comes close to the original one. It works and does the job.
This may be for everyone, here in India, i get one Cialis 50 mg for 40 PHP ( 1 PHP=1 INR). and it works wonders. Do not use viagra, kamagra, giagra or anything with content sidanafil citrate use only Cialis or its content Tadalafill. There are many generic brands from India that does well, they comes in a pack of four tablets, and it cost 150 PHP. now add, shipping cost, drug pusher cost, profit etc, it should not be more than 300 PHP, but since it is PH and high cost of living....You should never pay more than 400-500 PHP for any boner tablets anywhere in ASIA.
Some folks pay 1500 PHP, thats insane. I was thinking of starting my own business in selling boner pills on half that price and still make profit, but was too attention deficit on pussy to do it :). I may well start it for just good times sake for the benefit of mongers :)
PH is the only place i think where you do not have to worry about letting go of the girl. They are more smarter and a great great Short time material. You don't have to worry about good byes here. The women are more stronger mentally. Just chill, she enjoyed the stay with you as much as you did. NO hard feelings as she dressed before the cuddle and emotional good byes. This is the best place to get laid again and again and not worry about what she or her friends will think. It does not even happen even in Thailand. Its a win win situation here.
Forget about the connection, even if you had, you were only going to break her heart after few days, when you had enough of her and wanna try other.
You had the best time, You can make the girl as you want. Just send the right vibe. Anyway, Manila is not the best place for short term visit, i stay here 'cos i go out with regular girls which is the best place to do.
if you are on short visit go to Cebu, much better or else to Angeles city, but thats too professional place. Cebu is much cool for an overall experience. Avoid manila for short term visits. Good Luck
I was in Robinsons Malate a couple of weeks ago to go get some tarpaulin rings of all things..
While I standing in the atrium gazing into the distance trying to get my bearings as to which way to Ace's hardware this very tall 23 year old (Im jockey sized) walks up to me & asks me am I an American. I reflexively answered no & she replied 'thats good'.
Now, I have to tell you after living here 5 years Im pretty used to hookers, tranny's & school girls trying to hook up in Robinsons Malate but this conversation was out of left wing in the circumstances.. I guess they get you when you're off guard.
To cut a long story short, this apparently straight girl had been there to meet a guy from Cherry Blossoms web site who turned out to be 'arrogant' in her estimation.
His sin was he told her no chaperon & must go with him to his hotel. According to her It was her second such meet of an American in which she turned them down & walked away. Many of these girls hate lack of subtlety, they're asian after all...
On the spur of the moment & sensing pussy in the air I bought her lunch & listened to her story. Her mother dropped by from shopping but quickly departed. The girl asked me if she could come back to my hotel.. bugger me.. she just spent 30 mins saying how she hated yanks who told her that was the deal.. women, go figure huh?
I was'nt going to take her all the way back to my pad so I walked her over to City State hotel where I have a very good long standing relationship with the desk staff due to my many dalliances there.
She spent the night with me & we shagged many times sans latex, oops..
In the morning I casually asked if she was on the pill - her answer floored me 'no.. dont you want to make a baby?' She has since had a period thank god..
She rather liked to climb on top & frig herself with my cock until she was ready to pop then she would impale herself & ride me hard. Nice.
Allegedly only one younger pinoy boy friend in the past & had'nt had a root in over a year. Who know's what is the truth with these girls?
She was in raptures when I DATY'd her. According to her, pinoy guy just climbed on, did his thing & withdrew before blowing then sleeping.
She says she has never had DATY before & never been with a foreigner.
All these girls say they have never had DATY before but they all push your head down there.. hmmm... thinks... eyes cross.. no conclusion... insufficient data...
First time I went down for a lick of her clit imagine my surprise & delight to find a totally shaven pussy! I was instantly suspicious that I had a P4P'er on my hands masquerading as a straight girl. I talked to her about it, she claimed to have been doing it since puberty because she felt it was cleaner - no argument from me there. I did notice she used pads & feminine wash all the time even though she was not menstruating so probably this was true.
She has a perfect set of upturned conical 34b firm breasts & a nice flat tummy. I usually like tiny spinners but this amazon (by pinoy standards) was certainly worth the climb ;)
No money changed hands. I was'nt going to insult her. Did take over to Robinsons the next day & got her a modest new cell phone & some blouses which she accepted shyly.
Calls herslef 'Ysah', real name Maria Luisa.
Look for her on CB guys, handle with tact eh? ;)
Cheers
AV
[QUOTE=Amavida]I was in Robinsons Malate a couple of weeks ago to go get some tarpaulin rings of all things.
While I standing in the atrium gazing into the distance trying to get my bearings as to which way to Ace's hardware this very tall 23 year old (I'm jockey sized) walks up to me & asks me am I an American.
I reflexively answered no & she replied 'thats good'.[/quote]To Amavida,
I was at Robinson place few week ago too no one pick me up, you are a lucky man to find a tall flipper like this and also a freebie too, do you have contact for her.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]To Amavida,
I was at Robinson place few week ago too no one pick me up, you are a lucky man to find a tall flipper like this and also a freebie too, do you have contact for her.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Sorry mate, when I break it off with them I delete the cp number & often ditch the sim card as well.
If you want to go sloppy seconds look for her on Cherry Blossoms, Facebook, Friendster. There's a million like her, dont waste too much time looking.
In regards to 'mall hunting' as some call it, the secret is to get out & about with some purpose, often you will be delighted to meet willing girls off the cuff all over the place. Going to malls for no other purpose than finding a girl to root is often hit & miss.
If you're go to Harrison plaza & stand around upstairs where all the cell phone stalls are you will quickly be approached by a male pimp. Quick way to get a girl but I dont care for street pro's hawked by trike drivers if you get my drift..
If you go outside Harrison plaza opposite the central bank of Phils you almost always find a couple of pretty & sexily dressed girls standing literally on the road where the jeeps stop. They are open for business.
After 5 years here I dont look for girls, they find me.
Several days ago I walked into a western union office to send a small gift to my neice back home in Oz. The girl behind the counter was young (19) & pretty, really pretty, but I paid her no particular heed as the country is full of lovely girls & I was busy.
When I completed the transaction she flashed a big warm 1000 watt smile & wished me advance happy birthday.. lots of eye contact.. and then told me in that chirpy smiley seductive way, that only a woman can, that it was her birthday that date also. I was preoccupied with business on my cp but I got the hint & asked her if she would like to celebrate it with me.
We had dinner & spent the rest of the night shagging. If you're relaxed, happy & not in a hurry its surprising how quickly these girls drop their pants..
Cheers AV
I think AV has rather eloquently summarized the major difference between living here and visiting for a short time. Residents have the great luxury of time...of being able to take things easy, and thus being open to the unpredictable chance encounter with no feelings of urgency, whereas guys on vacation need to focus on achieving their objectives within a concentrated time span.
GE
[QUOTE=Amavida]Sorry mate, when I break it off with them I delete the cp number & often ditch the sim card as well.
AV[/QUOTE]
Interesting point that AV makes about deleting the number of gals he is finished with.
I used to do that until I got fed up getting those 'Hi, kumusta' textss out of the blue where the number that flashes up on my screen is totally unfamiliar to me. To which I normally reply, in all politeness, 'who is this please?' Then after three or four more texts back and forth (eg, 'u dont remember me, Im sad...'), we establish that she is so and so who I went out with (twice), three months ago.
Now I keep all the numbers and just edit the name in my phone book with a note like ('done') or a date, so when I get that text out of the blue, I at least immediately know who it is.
Of course an occasional purge of numbers is necessary if you're a long time resident, or perhaps a personal policy of just immediately deleting all texts without reply from numbers you don't recognize--but I am still in 'keep all numbers' mode.
Manta Ray
[QUOTE=Manta Ray]Interesting point that AV makes about deleting the number of gals he is finished with.
I used to do that until I got fed up getting those 'Hi, kumusta' textss out of the blue where the number that flashes up on my screen is totally unfamiliar to me. To which I normally reply, in all politeness, 'who is this please?' Then after three or four more texts back and forth (eg, 'u dont remember me, Im sad...'), we establish that she is so and so who I went out with (twice), three months ago.
Now I keep all the numbers and just edit the name in my phone book with a note like ('done') or a date, so when I get that text out of the blue, I at least immediately know who it is.
Of course an occasional purge of numbers is necessary if you're a long time resident, or perhaps a personal policy of just immediately deleting all texts without reply from numbers you don't recognize--but I am still in 'keep all numbers' mode.
Manta Ray[/QUOTE]I also keep all mine. However I find its gettting harder to remember which particular Lhen or Vangie or Rose I dated. Now I have to add a Lhen Boobs, or a Vangie Anal or Rose "naked in car" detail to ensure I can correctly place them.
My forthcoming trip has a Jeny, a Jenny P and a Jenny the on the agenda. Potential for sending a wrong sms is high! Luckily it also has a Belle, Rosemae, and two Joys'!
[QUOTE=Manta Ray]Interesting point that AV makes about deleting the number of gals he is finished with.
I used to do that until I got fed up getting those 'Hi, kumusta' textss out of the blue where the number that flashes up on my screen is totally unfamiliar to me. To which I normally reply, in all politeness, 'who is this please?' Then after three or four more texts back and forth (eg, 'u dont remember me, Im sad...'), we establish that she is so and so who I went out with (twice), three months ago.
Now I keep all the numbers and just edit the name in my phone book with a note like ('done') or a date, so when I get that text out of the blue, I at least immediately know who it is.
Of course an occasional purge of numbers is necessary if you're a long time resident, or perhaps a personal policy of just immediately deleting all texts without reply from numbers you don't recognize--but I am still in 'keep all numbers' mode.
Manta Ray[/QUOTE]Good system MR, in fact I used to be quite the little obsessive compulsive, had my google contacts list fleshed out with a pic & details of every girl etc etc which I could access via my cp 3g connection anytime, anywhere but long term I got sick of it. Too much time spent keeping records & managing the burgeoning collection of pics. Its started to feel like work not fun.
I too tire of the cat & mouse 'dont you remember me' txt's/emails.
I also got tired of new conquests clawing at my iphone.
I swapped it for a 'Myphone' dual sim unit which was affordable to lose & attracted much less attention from all & sundry.
I have my 'keep' sim & my 'disposable' sim in it. Most girls go in the disposable sim which i literally throw away & replace frequently. At some point 95% of girls try to turn 'fun' into serious commitment which is where i terminate things & dont want to waste load on interminable replies.
My way suits me.
Cheers!
AV
Dear All,
I am planning to visit Manila and planning to stay at Heritage Hotel, I was away from MANILA FOR MORE THAN 5 YEARS NOW and believed there is a lot of changes by now. ok, lets start with few questions and hope for your quick advises;
1) I Heritage a guest or girl friendly hotel? or is there any other hotel nearby that is girl frinedly and near the mongering spot and at teh same time not far from Domestic airport too ( I will go to masbate as well after Manila)
2) I have been to L.A. cafe before and hook up some talent overthere, how is the on going rate (ST / LT) right now?
3) any other place to hook some freelancer for LT, please advise.
4) Have been to Harizzon plaza before and have some girls for ST, how is teh rate at this time.
5) I rememebr way back before that my friend bring me to some beerhouses where in there is ago-go dancer and have some girls come to your table and chat with you and even can arrange some night out, is there any places like this anymore?
6) How about hooking up with colleage girls?
Sorry for feeding so much questions as I will only be staying for few nights and heading to pALAWAN SOO. SO WILL APPRECIATE FOR ALL INFORMATIONS YOU GIVEN TO ME.
CHEERS,
MD
[QUOTE=Macho Dik]2) I have been to L.A. cafe before and hook up some talent overthere, how is the on going rate (ST / LT) right now?
3) any other place to hook some freelancer for LT, please advise.
4) Have been to Harizzon plaza before and have some girls for ST, how is teh rate at this time.
6) How about hooking up with colleage girls?
MD[/QUOTE]All the details you require are here in the forum for your viewing pleasure.
[QUOTE=Manta Ray]........
Now I keep all the numbers and just edit the name in my phone book with a note like ('done') or a date, so when I get that text out of the blue, I at least immediately know who it is.
Of course an occasional purge of numbers is necessary if you're a long time resident, or perhaps a personal policy of just immediately deleting all texts without reply from numbers you don't recognize--but I am still in 'keep all numbers' mode.
Manta Ray[/QUOTE]Manta I have just graduated out of your "keep all numbers" mode after doing exactly what you are doing in updating the list.
Now I just delete numbers I don't recognise. I reckon that is a consequence of living here permanently and needing to keep a list "fresh", but I can see where you are coming from and if it works for you then stick with it.
[QUOTE=Macho Dik]Dear All,
I am planning to visit Manila and planning to stay at Heritage Hotel, I was away from MANILA FOR MORE THAN 5 YEARS NOW and believed there is a lot of changes by now. Ok, lets start with few questions and hope for your quick advises;
1) I Heritage a guest or girl friendly hotel? Or is there any other hotel nearby that is girl frinedly and near the mongering spot and at the same time not far from Domestic airport too (I will go to masbate as well after Manila)
2) I have been to L. A. Cafe before and hook up some talent overthere, how is the on going rate (ST / LT) right now?
3) any other place to hook some freelancer for LT, please advise.
4) Have been to Harizzon plaza before and have some girls for ST, how is the rate at this time.
5) I rememebr way back before that my friend bring me to some beerhouses where in there is ago-go dancer and have some girls come to your table and chat with you and even can arrange some night out, is there any places like this anymore?
6) How about hooking up with colleage girls?
Sorry for feeding so much questions as I will only be staying for few nights and heading to pALAWAN SOO. SO WILL APPRECIATE FOR ALL INFORMATIONS YOU GIVEN TO ME.
CHEERS,
MD[/QUOTE]You need to do a bit of homework MD.
All the answers are here in the last month of posts. Your questions are way too broad for me to even start addressing and I reckon you should look through earlier posts.
[QUOTE=Macho Dik]Dear All,
I am planning to visit Manila and planning to stay at Heritage Hotel, I was away from MANILA FOR MORE THAN 5 YEARS NOW and believed there is a lot of changes by now. Ok, lets start with few questions and hope for your quick advises;
1) I Heritage a guest or girl friendly hotel? Or is there any other hotel nearby that is girl frinedly and near the mongering spot and at the same time not far from Domestic airport too (I will go to masbate as well after Manila)
2) I have been to L. A. Cafe before and hook up some talent overthere, how is the on going rate (ST / LT) right now?
3) Any other place to hook some freelancer for LT, please advise.
4) Have been to Harizzon plaza before and have some girls for ST, how is the rate at this time.
5) I rememebr way back before that my friend bring me to some beerhouses where in there is ago-go dancer and have some girls come to your table and chat with you and even can arrange some night out, is there any places like this anymore?
6) How about hooking up with colleage girls?
Sorry for feeding so much questions as I will only be staying for few nights and heading to pALAWAN SOO. SO WILL APPRECIATE FOR ALL INFORMATIONS YOU GIVEN TO ME.
CHEERS,
MD[/QUOTE]1. Yes
2. 1, 000 to 1, 500 php
3. Right across the street from Heritage is the EDSA entertainment complex.
You will find hundreds of girls there
4. I wouldn't waste my time trolling the malls when you have the EDSA
Complex across the street and other daytime availability at LA Cafe
5. EDSA complex
6. Why troll for college girls when EDSA complex is right across the street?
Walk out the front door of Heritage and the pedestrian foot bridge is a hundred yards away. Cross the street at the footbridge and go directly to the EDSA complex. You will think you died and went to heaven.
On my first trip to the Philippines it was a nightmare using the cell phones to talk to the girls. I never texted before in the US, I just call the person, make my point and be done with it. It would take forever to type in a simple response to the girl.
For example in the time it took me to type " Angel, the taxi driver is trying to find your house now, please wait for me"
While I was typing that one sentence to her, I would receive about 10 texts from her that would read something like this:
how are you
are you coming now
how come you are not here
are you mad at me
please respond
why u not come
U Liar Boy
I go to sleep now
ect, ect, until I would finally just give up on the text and call the girls number and hand the phone to the driver to get the directions to her house directly.
I found it was just easier to call the girl directly and speak for a minute or two, Plus the girls rarely get phone calls, so it is kind of special that someone is spending the money to hear their voice.
I have now been using my iphone for texting and chatting on yahoo, while I am at home.So I am can text fairly quick using the ipone keyboard screen.But I am concerned about taking the phone to the Philippines, I am would be very nervous holding a gadget in my hand that is worth close to a Pinoys yearly pay.
On my last visit to the PI (March 2009) I spent most of my time in Manila, I noticed quite a few wealthy locals using the iPhone. I was using my unlocked iPhone with a Globe sim. Globe was offering the iPhone for sale at the time.
I think you will be just fine using the iPhone.
It's always wise to be prudent, but I wouldn't worry too much. I've got an iPhone and a BlackBerry and I carry one or the other wherever I am. Just be aware of your surroundings and don't walk down the street while texting on it. Lock it up if you know you're not going to be alone in your room.
GE
If you haven't been at Heritage Hotel for 5 yrs., be prepared for the price change!! Last I checked it was well over $100USD per night. Might be better off in the "cheap" Malate area of Palm Plaza hotel chain. Then you can just walk to LA Cafe, Robinson's mall, etc. Not too many places to walk to from Heritage hotel. Just a thought. Enjoy.
[QUOTE=Mr Hawaii]If you haven't been at Heritage Hotel for 5 yrs., be prepared for the price change!! Last I checked it was well over $100USD per night. Might be better off in the "cheap" Malate area of Palm Plaza hotel chain. Then you can just walk to LA Cafe, Robinson's mall, etc. Not too many places to walk to from Heritage hotel. Just a thought. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]
I've stayed at the Heritage a few times, and I have never liked the place. I always felt it was somewhat seedy and overpriced, and the service was just mediocre. Of course, you can walk across the street to EDSA Entertainment Complex, but that's not much of an inducement for me. All told, I suggest you find somewhere that's a bit more convivial.
GE
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I've stayed at the Heritage a few times, and I have never liked the place. I always felt it was somewhat seedy and overpriced, and the service was just mediocre. Of course, you can walk across the street to EDSA Entertainment Complex, but that's not much of an inducement for me. All told, I suggest you find somewhere that's a bit more convivial.
GE[/QUOTE]
Many thanks for all brother extending helping hand to me!
As it's been a long while have not visited Manila so I am sure everything has changed a lot, aside from Heritage, what other options, fyi, I am on a business trip so I hope to find some hotel to be a bit respectable to my clinets and at teh same time accessible to the mongering area and the hotel has to be girl friendly for my after work relaxation.
Just for confirmations, is the price rate for st is 1000 php? and the price rate for LT is 1500php? I hope that I can taste those lovely filipinas that is very "carinosa" as everyone is saying. hope this will be equally pleassure to me as compare to my trip to Bangkon.
Cheers,
MD
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I've stayed at the Heritage a few times, and I have never liked the place. I always felt it was somewhat seedy and overpriced, and the service was just mediocre. Of course, you can walk across the street to EDSA Entertainment Complex, but that's not much of an inducement for me. All told, I suggest you find somewhere that's a bit more convivial.GE[/QUOTE]
I always used the Heritage before when I was transiting through Manila because it is near EDSA IEC and close to the airport, but the price is now way too high for the facility and service. I agree that any of Pan Pacific, Hyatt, Executive Plaza are better now because of the range of additional bars around that area, and it is still easy to get to the airport along Roxas Blvd. it is also only a 50 - 100 php taxi ride to EDSA if you wish to go there.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]It's always wise to be prudent, but I wouldn't worry too much. I've got an iPhone and a BlackBerry and I carry one or the other wherever I am. Just be aware of your surroundings and don't walk down the street while texting on it. Lock it up if you know you're not going to be alone in your room.
GE[/QUOTE]
Good advice GE. I tend to put my BB and mobiles in a simple plastic bag, a trick I learnt from a mate in Brazil 20+ years ago. His executive briefcase was a supermarket bag as Rio was a muggers magnet and he was never hassled.
Maybe also that I am very tall, big etc so maybe they like to pick on small guys....:D
But never text and walk at same time, that is asking for potential attention. I can multi task but save that for more important matters ;)
[QUOTE=Bob Bowie]On my first trip to the Philippines it was a nightmare using the cell phones to talk to the girls. I never texted before in the US, I just call the person, make my point and be done with it. It would take forever to type in a simple response to the girl.
For example in the time it took me to type " Angel, the taxi driver is trying to find your house now, please wait for me"
While I was typing that one sentence to her, I would receive about 10 texts from her that would read something like this:
how are you
are you coming now
how come you are not here
are you mad at me
please respond
why u not come
U Liar Boy
I go to sleep now
ect, ect, until I would finally just give up on the text and call the girls number and hand the phone to the driver to get the directions to her house directly.
I found it was just easier to call the girl directly and speak for a minute or two, Plus the girls rarely get phone calls, so it is kind of special that someone is spending the money to hear their voice.
I have now been using my iphone for texting and chatting on yahoo, while I am at home.So I am can text fairly quick using the ipone keyboard screen.But I am concerned about taking the phone to the Philippines, I am would be very nervous holding a gadget in my hand that is worth close to a Pinoys yearly pay.[/QUOTE]You learn to be very terse in your txting. Its the only way. Long txt's are simply not understood because the girls have a shallow understanding of written english & are txt'ing 5 other cousins/friends simultaneously in any event. Also as you discovered long responses are too slow to keep up with the rapid fire responses from these attention deficit txt maniacs.
Filipino's are neither logical nor organised. Txt'ing street names/prominent land marks gets vague non answer replies. Yes I agree often its better to give up & get another filipino to talk to them unless you are fairly fluent in the language.
_DO_NOT_ take your expensive cell phone out of your pocket on the street or crowded public places. Snatchers are a real & constant threat.
Keep a low profile. You are being watched wherever you go. Not just by crims. Filipinos are massive gossips (men as well as women) & they dont let facts get in the way of a good story. Being naughty in a part of town where you are known is bound to get back to ears you wish had'nt heard.
AV
Hello Gentlemen,
I was hoping that someone would be able to answer a few basic questions for me. I'm currently planning my very first trip to Asia in September. I've traveled extensively throughout Central and South America (Medellin is my favorite), but have never taken the long trip to the Orient. I plan on being there for two and half weeks in total. The first week and a half, and the primary reason for going, is to visit a girlfiend in Hong Kong. Most of my time there will be with her (although I might slip away for a day!). I will then have seven days to visit a second destination. I would like to visit either Thailand or the Phillipines. I've also heard great things about both. Given my limited time, the fact that I will be travelling alone, and that have never been to Asia, which one would you recommend? I've been digging through the material on the forum for both countries, but there are hundreds of pages and it is hard to get an concise version.
I've been looking at airfares from Hong Kong to either Manilla or Bangkok and both are very cheap. However, it appears that Bangkok hotels are cheaper. Which country is the best value for girls? I prefer overnight long term dates to short sessions. I also prefer more of a girlfriend experience to quickies. If I visit Thailand, would you recommend a few days in Bangkok and then the rest at Pattaya? The Penthouse Hotel which is advertised on the banner of the ISG looks like it would be a good option for a newbie and they offer airport pickup. Do you recommend it? Is there a inexpensive hotel (around $50-$75) in Bangkok which is girl friendly that you would recommend?
If I visit the Philippines instead, should I stick to Manilla or try to make it to Angeles City? It seems from the posts that I've read, it is difficult to get to Angeles City. Is there a recommended cheaper hotel for the stay in Manilla.
Thank you for any assistance that anyone can provide. One final question would be which country has more touristy things to do during the day. Thanks again.
Steve
I have been to both Thailand and P.I. more than 20 times. Others will offer their opinion, here is mine: More tourist things to do (exotic culture/history) is Thailand. Raw, commercialized, unhibited, pure sex for $$$ - Thailand.
For the girlfriend experience - P.I. English is spoken by all, very friendly, easier to score with non-working girls. Just stay in Manila, read the forum. Makati or Malate, it doesn't matter much for first time. But do make it to LA Cafe and EDSA.
Orlando Man, this topic has been debated endlessly and the debate will continue I'm sure. For me, the choice should depend on your primary reasons for coming.
If an interesting culture, great food, and endless commercial sex are your primary motivators then Thailand wins hands down. (Of course the current political turmoil and the street protests in Bangkok may be a deterrent here, as it appears they're getting worse and paralyzing ever more of the city.)
On the other hand, if you're looking for true GFE or a great semblance thereof, even with commercial sex workers, and you're not too picky about food, and being able to communicate in at least rudimentary English is important, then the Philippines should attract your money. The local food sucks, the physical infrastructure is strictly third world and the culture isn't terribly interesting, but the people are for the most part kind, welcome foreigners and are, in general, more friendly to strangers than the Thais.
There are lots of less expensive hotels in Manila and they've been written about extensively here. I suggest you search the hotel thread and pick one that's in a suitable area for you.
GE
At last I have a report that you might find interesting. It's taken a few days to right it up part travel schedule and part disbelief with what happened. It's a long report; I hope you enjoy the detail from a beginner.
So I finally make it back to Manila last Friday, have dinner with the sweet local family of a friend, delivering some goodies and then I'm free for the evening. Earlier I had sent a text to a DIA contact who seemed keen to meet last time. But I never could arrange the time.
She lives nearby in Makati, is about a 7 in her photo. Let's call her Ms A.
A is a masseuse and I later find out studying to get a visa to be with her boyfriend in Europe, I later find out.
Ms A turns up with not one but TWO friends in tow. I am more accepting than most about bringing a friend but feeding 3 is too much. I bite my tongue and buy drinks for all 3. Ms A orders and expensive cocktail. Be and see order fruit juice.
Ms be is the cutest spinner with lovely hair and a bright personality – just what I like. Ms see has a nice spinner body, friendly and talkative enough but not so pretty.
We have our drinks; A becomes less and less friendly, while I'm enjoying the chat with be and C.
We finish our drinks and I'm planning to head out to see LA café for the first time when they sort of stall at the hotel lobby. Taking a hint from more experienced posters here, I suggest they come upstairs to "watch a movie". What follows is TV, some simple room service (they hadn't been fed) and all of us on the bed. Someone mentions massage and insist it's my turn first. There is no resistance and A (the masseuse) gets my shirt off, and pants half down. I'm face down while others get lotion from the bathroom and a 20 minute professional massage follows.
A insists I leave my shirt off as I have a nice body (I don't)
Next thing I know is that A is cuddling me in the middle of the bed, be and see on the outside. A complains that guys on line just want to see her boobs, but then proceeds to show me how nice her nipples are. We start kissing and I enjoy sucking on her big nipples while she rubs my cock through jeans.
A takes charge: orders the lights off, the girls to take their tops off and from the bottom of the bed pulls off my pants. She starts giving me a hand job, gets be and see to take turns kissing me, offering me their tits and giving me a hand job. A then offers to make me come, I say I want to be inside her, she says she has her period but offers one of her friends.
Now, as excited as I am, I am outnumbered and don't know what ambush awaits me. Terror and horniness is a new high for me.
So I say that be is my preferred fuck, or both? But see gets naked down to her underpants. I tell be I want her and she leaves her business card for me.
A explains that she and be have to go "to work on the internet" which I interpret as cam girls. But she explains that she will leave see for me for the night.
A and be leave – no money expected.
C's only request is for a condom – good idea. What follows is some ordinary sex, inadequate blow job and no anal, but the sweet thing is trying hard so no complaints. This repeated before breakfast. A little shopping for me and a cheap swimsuit for her and we use the hotel pool. All the time she can't keep her hands off me. One more session back in the room and I am off to the airport.
She asked for some taxi money is a very gentle way. I give her 2000 which is much more than she deserves but I was so thrilled with the entire experience.
I contact be and see later. Both are a bit stunned at what happened and said it was a first. I tend to believe them, see especially.
There you have it, my first report – straight from mono to foursome (well sort of!) Who Said "only in the Philippines!)
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Thailand vs. Philippines
I would agree also. Thailand hands down. I been to both countries myself and in my experience, I feel as a single guy, you should hit Thailand first. Here’s my thoughts on the differences of Thailand vs. Philippines. I feel your overall experience in Thailand will be better than in Philippines.
Thailand
*Sight Seeing - More things to see and do in Thailand. They have magnificent Shrines, Temples, Statues, Palaces.
*Hotels - More hotels to choose from in Bangkok city. I would recommend the Nana Hotel or Majestic Suites near Sukhumvit Road for your budget. Both are girl friendly hotels and close to the Nana BTS Station. Also, you’re just walking distance to Nana Plaza which is 1 of Bangkoks Red Light Districts.
*Transportation - The BTS SkyTrain makes traveling soo much easier. You get an overhead view of Bangkok City while riding the Skytrain. No need to worry of a taxi driver ripping you off.
*Safety - I feel Thailand is safer especially for a single guy. If you stay near Sukhumvit Road in Bangkok, it is easy to get around and not get lost. The Skytrain is in the middle of Sukhumvit Road. I wasn’t alone when I first went to Thailand but, I would go to the malls and roam the streets at night by myself. Manila has a lot of corrupt taxi drivers and beggars. You see beggars in Thailand also but, I notice they aren’t as pushy. Philippines is poorer and poverty is worse than Thailand.
*Sex - Far more to offer in Thailand then Philippines. That’s why it’s called the sex capital of the world.
They have Gogo Bars, Pub bars, Soapy Massages, Street Walkers or Freelancers as they call them.
*Food - I would say the cuisine in Thailand is better than Philippines. Philippines they have a lot of greasy oily fatty foods. A lot more variety of different restaurants in Thailand to cater to all types of foreigners.
*Shopping - Philippines does have large malls like Mall of Asia, SM and Ayala but, I if your looking for things like souvenirs and cheap items, I would say Thailand is better. You can find a lot of those outside market places that sell bags, clothing, belts, knives, flashlights, hats, bootleg movies. Forget shopping at the big malls. Just go there to eat and look at the chicks! Hehe
Philippines
*Language - More people speak and understand English better in the Philippines vs. Thailand
*Girls - Thailand may offer a lot of bars and soapy massages but, you can meet a lot of regular girls outside of the bars. You can easily just communicate with a pinay girl from online and she is willing to meet you. Or, just hang out at the malls. On top of that, most of the Pinay girls are more down to earth than Thai girls. You will definitely experience a GFE in Philippines vs. Thailand.
*People - I would say the overall people is friendlier. Filipinos/Filipinas are fun loving and down to earth.
*Cost - The overall cost for most things in Philippines I’d say is cheaper. The American $1 is strong in the Philippines compared to Thailand. $1 = to 45-46 Philippines pesos average. $1 = to 32-33 Thai Bahts average in Thailand.
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Good evening gents,
First time here for business purpose and staying in Oakwood Hotel (17 ADB Avenue Ortigas Center, Pasig, Metro Manila). I decide to release now but seems no idea actually. Can you recommend where I can get to for a ST/LT?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]On the other hand, if you're looking for true GFE or a great semblance thereof, even with commercial sex workers, and you're not too picky about food, and being able to communicate in at least rudimentary English is important, then the Philippines should attract your money. The local food sucks, the physical infrastructure is strictly third world and the culture isn't terribly interesting, but the people are for the most part kind, welcome foreigners and are, in general, more friendly to strangers than the Thais.
GE[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Orlando Man]Hello Gentlemen,
I was hoping that someone would be able to answer a few basic questions for me. I'm currently planning my very first trip to Asia in September. I've traveled extensively throughout Central and South America (Medellin is my favorite), but have never taken the long trip to the Orient. I plan on being there for two and half weeks in total. The first week and a half, and the primary reason for going, is to visit a girlfiend in Hong Kong. Most of my time there will be with her (although I might slip away for a day!). I will then have seven days to visit a second destination. I would like to visit either Thailand or the Phillipines. I've also heard great things about both. Given my limited time, the fact that I will be travelling alone, and that have never been to Asia, which one would you recommend? I've been digging through the material on the forum for both countries, but there are hundreds of pages and it is hard to get an concise version.
I've been looking at airfares from Hong Kong to either Manilla or Bangkok and both are very cheap. However, it appears that Bangkok hotels are cheaper. Which country is the best value for girls? I prefer overnight long term dates to short sessions. I also prefer more of a girlfriend experience to quickies. If I visit Thailand, would you recommend a few days in Bangkok and then the rest at Pattaya? The Penthouse Hotel which is advertised on the banner of the ISG looks like it would be a good option for a newbie and they offer airport pickup. Do you recommend it? Is there a inexpensive hotel (around $50-$75) in Bangkok which is girl friendly that you would recommend?
If I visit the Philippines instead, should I stick to Manilla or try to make it to Angeles City? It seems from the posts that I've read, it is difficult to get to Angeles City. Is there a recommended cheaper hotel for the stay in Manilla.
Thank you for any assistance that anyone can provide. One final question would be which country has more touristy things to do during the day. Thanks again.
Steve[/QUOTE]Orlando,
I like Thailand better than PI yes it is more expensive for mongering, but there is more thing to do and see in Thailand and the food is much better. I think you should visit Thailand first if you have time visit both country and judge yourself, everyone have different taste and liking yes Manila hotel is expensive there are many 3 star in Manila and bangkok under 50 USD.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Silverwings]Good evening gents,
First time here for business purpose and staying in Oakwood Hotel (17 ADB Avenue Ortigas Center, Pasig, Metro Manila). I decide to release now but seems no idea actually. Can you recommend where I can get to for a ST/LT?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
You joined Oct 8 2009 and this is your first post? Please all you have to do is read the forum. Search EDSA, as there has been so many reports lately.
Robb
Wanted to let everyone know about the Greenhills mall. Can't give you directions to where it is exactly. But both times I went there the cab driver knew it by name.
Greenhills is different from all of the normal type of malls in that they only sell fake name brand merchandise for very low prices. The place is a total zoo because the whole thing is set up in stalls like a flea market. They have unbelievably good replicas, everything from wathces to all types of clothes. They have an entire floor dedicated entirely to electronics. I bought all of the latest movies there on dvd for around $4. I noticed 10-20 booths that sold nothing but cell phones and accesories. Etc.
They only have the "flea market" around 5 days per week. I can't remember the days exactly but it is definitely worth the trip. I think this is very comparable to some of the great places they have in Hon Kong.
[QUOTE=Orlando Man]Hello Gentlemen,
I was hoping that someone would be able to answer a few basic questions for me. I'm currently planning my very first trip to Asia in September. I've traveled extensively throughout Central and South America (Medellin is my favorite), but have never taken the long trip to the Orient. I plan on being there for two and half weeks in total. The first week and a half, and the primary reason for going, is to visit a girlfiend in Hong Kong. Most of my time there will be with her (although I might slip away for a day!). I will then have seven days to visit a second destination. I would like to visit either Thailand or the Phillipines. I've also heard great things about both. Given my limited time, the fact that I will be travelling alone, and that have never been to Asia, which one would you recommend? I've been digging through the material on the forum for both countries, but there are hundreds of pages and it is hard to get an concise version.
I've been looking at airfares from Hong Kong to either Manilla or Bangkok and both are very cheap. However, it appears that Bangkok hotels are cheaper. Which country is the best value for girls? I prefer overnight long term dates to short sessions. I also prefer more of a girlfriend experience to quickies. If I visit Thailand, would you recommend a few days in Bangkok and then the rest at Pattaya? The Penthouse Hotel which is advertised on the banner of the ISG looks like it would be a good option for a newbie and they offer airport pickup. Do you recommend it? Is there a inexpensive hotel (around $50-$75) in Bangkok which is girl friendly that you would recommend?
If I visit the Philippines instead, should I stick to Manilla or try to make it to Angeles City? It seems from the posts that I've read, it is difficult to get to Angeles City. Is there a recommended cheaper hotel for the stay in Manilla.
Thank you for any assistance that anyone can provide. One final question would be which country has more touristy things to do during the day. Thanks again.
Steve[/QUOTE]
Here is my contribution as a very experienced visitor to Thailand over many years and a reasonbably experienced visitor to the Philippines over the last 5 years.
In terms of value and quality of hotels in relation to cost, my own experiences would rate thailand ahead of the Philippines in terms of quality, service, cleanliness and facilities. There are some superb hotels in the Philippines but on the whole I have found them to be more expensive and less attractive than Thailand.
The Thailand infrastructure is light years better in terms of transport and if you wish to travel around within Manila or Bangkok or further afield then Thailand is a clear winner.
Thailand wins hands down in terms of cultural, religious and historical sites to visit, places of interest to go and general pastimes. However I think once you have visited one temple, they are all pretty much of the same thing, but maybe I am just a Philistine.
I would normally compare the Thai Baht and the Philippine Peso fairly equitable in terms of their spending power for P4P, so for example 2000 pesos in the Philippines will buy you the equivalent of 2000 baht in Thailand for the same or similar deal. The big difference for me is that in my country I can get around 70 pesos to the UK pound but only 49 baht for that same pound. So the exchange rate makes the Philippines a far more attractive proposition in terms of "bangs for bucks" I would imagine a similar situation is evident with other currencies?
I think GFE can be had equally in both countries. The one defining difference is language. If you go off the beaten track in Thailand most people will not speak English, if you do the same in the Philippines most people will have at least a basic understanding of English. So to have a true GFE in Thailand with non pros it does help to have at least a basic understanding of Thai which I assume you do not have.
If you are aiming to go to Thailand or the Philippines and rely on pros or semi pros from bars to keep you occupied, in my opinion there is not a great deal to seperate the two cultures and countries, in the end the bottom line will always be your wallet. Since you have until September and your preference is for a long term GFE, then I suggest you start using the regular dating sites to cultivate and nurture potential candidates, trust me if you have a pulse and a wallet you will not be short of attention. Most girls will assume your wallet is ok if you have the means to travel to their country of residence.
I agree with the other guys who have replied to your post, the food in the Philippines generally sucks, unless you like a diet of deep fried or barbecued chicken and pork, heavily flavoured and salted sauces or fast food. Thai food is on the whole healthy, flavoursome and interesting.
In terms of safety I can honestly say that I have never ever felt threatened or concerned about my safety in Thailand and I have travelled extensively throughout the country. I must admit that in the Philippines I have often felt an undercurrent of danger when frequenting unfamiliar places late at night, mind you I have frequented some pretty unsavourary places. It may have been my imagination but I am a great believer in trusting in my instincts although I have never had a bad enough experience worthy of mention.
Despite what I have said, my heart lies in the Philippines. I think as a first time visitor to Asia, your needs would be better served in Thailand, but the Philippines is a jewel in the crown of Asia you should not miss. In my experience if P4P is your primary motive for travelling and there is absolutely no other reason to visit, then I would come down (marginally) in favour of the Philippines. However for most first time visitors to Asia it is not just the P4P, it is the whole cultural experience that is important. If you fall into this category then stick with Thailand
Had 3 ladies in 3 nights in BKK recently, 3 ladies in 3 nights in Jakarta therfater so assumed that 3 ladies in 3 nights in Manila would be a straighforward score. Which it was. But this trip contained some interesting "firsts" as follows.
The cast.
Ms R. A 20 yr old student I hads met on previous trip. Virgin. We had had a few kisses in my car but no more. She said half her friends were no longer virgins and she wanted to know more.
Ms J. A lady from Tagged who I wanted to meet as we had exchanged several ambiguous messages. 24
Ms B. A regular freebie friend of mine. Masseuse so thats free too.
Ms J. A lady from Palawan, 28 who had teased me many times on cam and who was in Manila for the weekend.
Ms K. A 21 year old aslo met thru Tagged, who is often in Havana.
Arrived and met the virgin in the nearby mall. Took her to my place. Wasnt sure what would happen as only had limited time. She saw me shower, then we spent a nice hour kissing and touching. As I said, limited time. Had some beers in Burgos, then met Ms B. Back to my place for beers and a lovely night in bed. Ms be recently turned 21 so we had cake. How sweet.
Next day, met the virgin in the afternoon. Went to Sogo. Got her panties off and gave her her first tongue-ing. She loved it. Nice body, small breasts, happy smile. Said next time we could pop it!
Then went home, for shower and out to meet Ms J. Saw her walking towards my car. She was gorgeous. Curvy, confidant and classy.
Went to Handlebar grill. Sat facing each other and as her dress was quite short, wasnt long before the hand was on the legs, and basically we spent next hour with my hand on her panties whilst we had beers.
Back in my car, we had long first kiss and her legs opened nicely. Drove home somehow. Wasnt concentrating on driving.
On arrival in my house, she sat on dining table, laid back and of course I sat on the dining chair and had my " meal". Later we were both sitting naked on the balcony. An evening humpin and grindin followed. I love uninhibited women like that!
Next day, did some work and was supposed to meet Ms S.
She was late. Hate late. She sent me many sms " please don't go, I have no money to go home etc. " She arrived and whilst she looked fine, she had a large shawl on. I asked why, and checked. She was pregnant. Not just pregnant but very pregnant. I have been with pregnant ladies before but today. No thanks. Gave her P200 to take taxi home.
Then called Ms K to come meet me. She arrived 30 mins later. Great body. Slim lithe and nice boobs. But missing two teeth she said she lost in a fight. Quite skanky really. Pity the poor guys that get her in Havana. Anyways I had a cheap dress to give her so she sat in my car. Nice little puss on display and nice boobs too. And we didn't leave the car park LOL.
Was supposed to meet a lady from High Heels who I know. She loves to dress up in tacky lingerie that I buy her and take pics of her in, but she was also an hour late. By that time Id gotten a blow in Burgos and on my way home.
Now whilst waiting for the High heels girl, Id exchanged sms with the virgin. Said it was a shame her mom wouldn't let her out at night. She said, now her Mom trusted me and maybe if I called her Mom next morning she would let her stay with me. Interesting!
So next morning I called Mrs Virgin and politely asked if daughter could sleep with me. She said yes. Thats a First time to do that!
Then I get txt from Ms Pregant that says she has a girl for me, who can stay with me, and will be guaranteed hot. I asked who. Girl said it was her sister. Pregant girl pimping her sister. Thats also a first. The next txt I get from her says shes in hospital in labour. About to deliver.
Anyways did work and faced choice. Virgin or Palawan girl. Decided to have Palawan girl in afternoon which was great fun. Went ot Eurotel Pasay road. Lots of dressing in tacky lingerie, lots of good hard sex. Girl looked great in clothes and lovely out of clothes too! Hope to see her again on one of my Asian business trips.
Then onto the virgin. Who tells me on arrival that her period just started. Damn and triple damn.
Girl is new to dating so her sisters, cousins and schoolmates are endelssly texting her asking what we are doing etc. This was intensely frustrating. I turned her phone off eventually LOL.
Back to my place and to bed. Girl was quite warmed up and gave me her first BJ, lots of practice needed. We saw some porn so she might improve on the technique. So then she practices a HJ and gets quite good, with a finger up my ass too.
And then, I realised she likes her ass touched too. Finger in also. And so for what was surely a strange event, I get to have her ass before I took her cherry. Another first!
Woke up to sweet virginal kisses and did some work and flew home.
Another interesting trip as always!
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I greatly prefer Thailand over the Philippines.
I don't even think there is a comparison.
[QUOTE=Orlando Man]Hello Gentlemen,
I was hoping that someone would be able to answer a few basic questions for me. I'm currently planning my very first trip to Asia in September. I've traveled extensively throughout Central and South America (Medellin is my favorite), but have never taken the long trip to the Orient. I plan on being there for two and half weeks in total. The first week and a half, and the primary reason for going, is to visit a girlfiend in Hong Kong. Most of my time there will be with her (although I might slip away for a day!). I will then have seven days to visit a second destination. I would like to visit either Thailand or the Phillipines. I've also heard great things about both. Given my limited time, the fact that I will be travelling alone, and that have never been to Asia, which one would you recommend? I've been digging through the material on the forum for both countries, but there are hundreds of pages and it is hard to get an concise version.
I've been looking at airfares from Hong Kong to either Manilla or Bangkok and both are very cheap. However, it appears that Bangkok hotels are cheaper. Which country is the best value for girls? I prefer overnight long term dates to short sessions. I also prefer more of a girlfriend experience to quickies. If I visit Thailand, would you recommend a few days in Bangkok and then the rest at Pattaya? The Penthouse Hotel which is advertised on the banner of the ISG looks like it would be a good option for a newbie and they offer airport pickup. Do you recommend it? Is there a inexpensive hotel (around $50-$75) in Bangkok which is girl friendly that you would recommend?
If I visit the Philippines instead, should I stick to Manilla or try to make it to Angeles City? It seems from the posts that I've read, it is difficult to get to Angeles City. Is there a recommended cheaper hotel for the stay in Manilla.
Thank you for any assistance that anyone can provide. One final question would be which country has more touristy things to do during the day. Thanks again.
Steve[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Devils 1]. They have an entire floor dedicated entirely to electronics. I bought all of the latest movies there on dvd for around $4. I noticed 10-20 booths that sold nothing but cell phones and accesories. Etc.
They only have the "flea market" around 5 days per week. I can't remember the days exactly but it is definitely worth the trip. I think this is very comparable to some of the great places they have in Hon Kong.[/QUOTE]Or for excellent DVD;s try Cinema square by end of Pasay road ( Arnaiz Ave)
I just bought 8 dvds with series ie 24 hours / Greys Anatomy etc, plus 10 other blu rays dvds. total P1000.
The place to go to there, is in front of entrance to antique store on lower ground floor. Nice staff, good prices but the best is that their dvds always work.
For an experienced tourist or expat, RP will be better. Thailand is by now heavily overpriced. It still has some advantages like better infrastructure in some terms.
However: You pay for it, e.g. Skytrain in MNL 25 peso, comparable distance in BKK 40 Baht (rp 51 cent US vs 1.30).
In terms of local airlines: RP is No. 1 my miles. Cant compare the 2.
Ocean: RP, Thailand mostly stinks or is overrun.
Backpackers: RP wins, not much fat white ladies in bras and shorts disturbing the view (UNLESSSSS you go to the mountain province, palawan and?)
Food: I think there is some misunderstanding in suggesting that Thailand is so great. First, many US visitors hardly make it to the food stalls. They stay in their US food ghettos and eat shit. Nicely packed, but shit. In RP they can do that without any problems and a bit cheaper than in Thailand. Those who frequent 'restaurants' catering to western customers wont find much difference other than that RP is way cheaper.
Thai food. True Thailand wins, if you manage to get it less spicy - i assume you dont like it too hot. Thailand has a vast pool of good food easily available and almost always clean. Well RP has nice beef and pork dishes at noon and you need to know if the place is clean. If you have your network of eateries you can do ok, but you will miss your noodle soup and stir fry veggies badly.
BUT: RP hits the punch line with its seafood. THere simply is nothing like it in Thailand below the US 100 mark. You can have excellent seafood in some places true, but you pay dearly. The rest is farm raised shrimp, fish etc. Banned from export to the EU for poisoning (chemicals, leads, hormons you name it). DOnt believe me? visit the farms north of Ayuthaya.
RP: Seafood central and CHEAP. So cheap, you cant eat it all and the quality is the BEST (!!!!!). I almost dropped all meat and stay on seafood 24/7 plus some veggies and the excellent fruits.
Hotels: Yes thailand is better but in the budget category RP is as cheap and sometimes cheaper. You dont have the guesthouse infrastructure like in Northern Thailand but I suspect nobody here is really too eager for those.
Language: RP allows you to eat what you by ordering what you like. Try that in Isaan. I m always surprised what my orders produce.
Alcohol: RP beats Thailand in round 1.
Cinema: Thailand has English language movies only in the major centers. Average price 4-5 US, i pay 1.30 same same thing.
Discriminatory pricing: I stopped keeping track of the ripping off of us by Thai National Parks. It is just outrageous. Seems the museums have started the same practice. Saw a 100 baht notice in one last month, but then was led in for free. No idea why. This is a standard practice. A Thai gf might provide some protection from it, but not always.
Xenophobia: Thais are basically racist and dislike anyone non-Thai, including Thai citizens of Khmer, Laotion, Burmese, Malay, Mon, Vietnamese, etc decent. Farangs fall in the same category. You cant overcome this unless you're very rich. Learning the culture/language is often seen as being subversive. A farang who knows too much is not good.
Getting killed: There is nothing like the Pattaya farang airshow. Each year dozens falling off their balconies leaving behind mourning and affluent Thai ladies. Foreigners' corpses get shipped out of the country in container loads. All suicides of course. In RP you might get mugged, shot, murdered, but the police is not too likely to be in on it. Or simply rubber stamp the killing as a suicide. RP seems to be more safe. Depends on the area, Angeles and Manila less secure than the dangerous places in Mindanao.
Temples, sightseeing, overland travel. RP has some good stuff but nothing to compare in quantity and concentration. But once you have done that it becomes redundant unless you are deeply into it. RP has cheap and comfortable accommodation, clean ocean, supply of fresh food, plus the extras like company.
So an experienced man with time on his hands will probably get a better deal in RP. A temple trip to Thailand takes 3-4 weeks (max.) and can easily be undertaken from Manila or Clarke.
I lived for years in Thailand, did my excursions upcountry, spent time in the provinces. Once you establish yourself in BKK or another place you become pretty fast local and dont move around so much. For that stage RP might be better.
Finally VISA: Thailand does its best to keep your stay short, RP does the opposite.
In sum, people without experience in Asia will do better in Thailand as it appears to be easier at first sight. More seasoned guys might prefer RP. I do.
Finally V
The bottom line seems to be: you can have a real good time in either country, but PI is cheaper.
Pi ladies are attractive, very friendly and regular girls are there to bang!
Thailand has better food, more culture and very attractive girls, but non pros are difficult to hook up with.
PI is cheaper and less touristy, but poorer and less safe.
So do both!
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]The bottom line seems to be: you can have a real good time in either country, but PI is cheaper.
Pi ladies are attractive, very friendly and regular girls are there to bang!
Thailand has better food, more culture and very attractive girls, but non pros are difficult to hook up with.
PI is cheaper and less touristy, but poorer and less safe.
So do both![/QUOTE]Whilst I agree with all your points raised above, it is incorrect to state that non pros are difficult to hook up with. I enjoy picking up non working girls, and have as much success with non working girls there as I do in Phils. Its all about having the right game, and right style. For sure, the direct approach that works well in Philippines is is not as useful in Thailand, but there are plenty to be had in Thailand. My most recent Thai trip yielded 3 in 3 days, as did the trip before.
Thank you to everyone for all of your wonderful information regarding my first trip to Asia and whether to choose to visit Thailand or the Philippines. I was quite impressed by the quality and quantity of feedback. Both locations seem to have their supporters and everyone made a very good case. However, after reading through the responses, the general consensus that I get is that for a first time trip, Thailand is the better choice. I do enjoy good Thai food and having tourist options during the day. Safety for a single traveler also seems to weigh on the side of Thailand. However, the fact that the Philippines seem to be better for long term relationships and that English is more widely spoken, means that I 'm looking forward to visiting there on a future trip.
Now that I have made up my mind for Thailand, I can start to finalize the details. I've decided to give myself eight nights in Thailand and cut my stay in Hong Kong by one day. This will allow me to spend four nights in Bangkok and four nights at Pattaya. I believe I will try the Penthouse Hotel in Pattaya since their website looks interesting. Their rates for basic rooms also seem very affordable and they advertise pickup from the Bangkok airport for only $42. I will be arriving on a late flight from Hong Kong and it will be nice to have pickup arranged. After my four nights I will have them return me to Bangkok and I will make reservations at either Majestic Suites or the Nana hotel which were recommended. Please let me know if this plan doesn't sound feasible or if you would make other recommendations.
Once again, thank you everyone for your assistance. I'm looking forward to a memorable first trip to Asia.
Steve
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ms j. saw her walking towards my car. she was gorgeous. curvy, confidant and classy.
went to handlebar grill. sat facing each other and as her dress was quite short, wasnt long before the hand was on the legs, and basically we spent next hour with my hand on her panties whilst we had beers.
was supposed to meet a lady from high heels who i know. she loves to dress up in tacky lingerie that i buy her and take pics of her in, but she was also an hour late.
maybe if i called her mom next morning she would let her stay with me. interesting! so next morning i called mrs virgin and politely asked if daughter could sleep with me. she said yes. thats a first time to do that!
finger in also. and so for what was surely a strange event, i get to have her ass before i took her cherry. another first!
another interesting trip as always!
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ff
interesting, informative and entertaining as always
i love handlebar as food is ok nice company but why was she wearing panties.....my rules are no panties and with the length of mini skirts my girl wear sometimes she shows more than she should (ok, imho, that is fine but then some guys are square :d). if we ever get to be in the same place at the same time it will be fiun as i like to go hh after handlebar...took groin strain (from uae) there in december - his first time in manila and he was raped in the 'naughty corner', and then disappeared all night
high heels girl - i know some from there and also the manager, maybe we should pm as you know i have plenty of accessories.....and she can certainly borrow them :)
in brazil i found it common for the ladies to want greek as they save their pussy for the husband. weird but true and very enjoyable for those who like classical languages
should there in may will pm you, also july as now am planning weekend trips just like you :d
[quote=wicked roger]ff
interesting, informative and entertaining as always
i love handlebar as food is ok nice company but why was she wearing panties.....my rules are no panties and with the length of mini skirts my girl wear sometimes she shows more than she should (ok, imho, that is fine but then some guys are square :d). if we ever get to be in the same place at the same time it will be fiun as i like to go hh after handlebar...took groin strain (from uae) there in december - his first time in manila and he was raped in the 'naughty corner', and then disappeared all night
high heels girl - i know some from there and also the manager, maybe we should pm as you know i have plenty of accessories.....and she can certainly borrow them :)
in brazil i found it common for the ladies to want greek as they save their pussy for the husband. weird but true and very enjoyable for those who like classical languages
should there in may will pm you, also july as now am planning weekend trips just like you :d[/quote]i thought that it was probably best to let the panties slide down in their own time. and they did.
but yes, i have one or two friends who delight in no panties....i love sitting at the traffic light with a digit or two deeply inserted and seeing the stares of the various mendicants who are not quite sure what they are seeing.
had a memorable meal in filling station last year with one such pantie-less lady. glad i only need one hand to eat a burger. lol.
my next trip should be either late april or may.
although im taking a 22 year old indonesian student to singapore at about same time. 22 year old indonesian...22 year old filipina.... life has sonme tough calls. !!!
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]The bottom line seems to be: you can have a real good time in either country, but PI is cheaper.
Pi ladies are attractive, very friendly and regular girls are there to bang!
Thailand has better food, more culture and very attractive girls, but non pros are difficult to hook up with.
PI is cheaper and less touristy, but poorer and less safe.
So do both![/QUOTE]
as for safety and food it depends. I think long term residents do in RP better than in Thailand, while newbies will do better in Thailand. The foreign death toll in Thailand is little discussed. No such thing in RP, here every death is high lighted. The annual RP death wont fill a month's worth of foreigner killings in Pattaya.
Food: If you love seafood it is RP.
Doing both? Depends on time, less on the budget.
[QUOTE=Thaifun]Doing both? Depends on time, less on the budget.[/QUOTE]GE, GGBL, M, and You (TF) make a lot of valid and informed points. This forum is great.
When I suggested visiting both countries, I meant to write that one should not go to Thailand (or Pi) exclusively until they have tasted the fruit in both countries. Many guys go to Thailand first, and fall in love with the girls, the food, and the general vibe. Then they return again and again to Thailand and never visit the Philippines or anywhere else. This I think is a mistake. I am crazy about Thai women, Filipinas, Chinese girls and let's not forget darling little Khmer chicks. I love them all!
If time is a constraint, so be it. I would be happy to spend a week or ten days in either country and I would plan to visit the country I did not have the time for next time or the time after that.
Fortunately for me, I am able to take 5 or 6 weeks off from my work, so I can swing through two or three Asian countries per trip (or visit 3 or 4 destinations inside just one country). It’s nice to mix it up.
I work for the day when I will have the financial resources to chuck it all and move out to Asia permanently. I do not know where I will set up residents, but I have a few places in mind (somewhere in either Thailand or PI most likely). And when I do move out to Asia, I will still want to take brief holidays to neighboring provinces and countries. Macau (and HKG) is just a couple hours away from MNL. Phnom Penh is ditto from BKK.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Whilst I agree with all your points raised above, it is incorrect to state that non pros are difficult to hook up with. I enjoy picking up non working girls, and have as much success with non working girls there as I do in Phils. Its all about having the right game, and right style. For sure, the direct approach that works well in Philippines is is not as useful in Thailand, but there are plenty to be had in Thailand. My most recent Thai trip yielded 3 in 3 days, as did the trip before.[/QUOTE]Guys, please excuse us if we deviate a little and discuss ways to pick up non P4P Thai girls here. The connection in this thread comes from the discussion on dating non pro Filipinas vs. dating non pro Thais.
I have always wanted to break into the non professional Thai market, but I have a couple of problems that always stop me. First, it’s so damn easy and enjoyable to fool around with Thai massage and GOGO girls, that once I start that up it becomes hard to focus on regular girls. Second, I don’t speak Thai and that is a major problem in breaking the ice with ordinary middle class Thai girls. I would like to learn some basic Thai. I bought Rosetta Stone Thai version in Pantip but my progress so far is very slow. Third, and correct me if I am wrong, doesn’t it take a lot of time before you get it on with the girl (even if you use shortcut dating services like ThailoveLinks, CraigslistBKK, or Passion.com)?
So FreebieFan, spill the beans. How do you do it?
[QUOTE=Orlando Man]
Now that I have made up my mind for Thailand, I can start to finalize the details. I've decided to give myself eight nights in Thailand and cut my stay in Hong Kong by one day. This will allow me to spend four nights in Bangkok and four nights at Pattaya. I believe I will try the Penthouse Hotel in Pattaya since their website looks interesting. Their rates for basic rooms also seem very affordable and they advertise pickup from the Bangkok airport for only $42. I will be arriving on a late flight from Hong Kong and it will be nice to have pickup arranged. After my four nights I will have them return me to Bangkok and I will make reservations at either Majestic Suites or the Nana hotel which were recommended. Please let me know if this plan doesn't sound feasible or if you would make other recommendations.
Once again, thank you everyone for your assistance. I'm looking forward to a memorable first trip to Asia.
Steve[/QUOTE]Good choice Steve. Hehe, I can see why you're interested in The Penthouse hotel hehe my gosh! Not a bad location to. It's near The Royal Garden Plaza. You'll know when you see a red plane in the front of the mall. You're also close to Walking Street. You just need to walk on Pattaya Beach Road or take a short ride on a Baht Bus and get off of on South Pattaya Road. You'll know when the bus turns left onto South Pattaya Road. Then, you're in the beginning of Walking Street.
Not a bad idea to do 4 nights in Bangkok and 4 nights in Pattaya. On my last trip to Thailand, I did 1 week in Bangkok and 1 week in Pattaya. You can do Pattaya for the first 4 nights and do Bangkok for the remaining 4 nights. If you're in Bangkok, the trip to the airport will be closer as oppose to being in Pattaya. If you take a taxi to Bangkok from Pattaya, it will be about 2 hours if there's no heavy traffic. You can also take a bus but, it will take 3hr and 30 minutes. Just take a taxi.
On my last trip in Bangkok, I stayed in the Nana Hotel. Not a really a fancy hotel but, what makes this hotel stand out is its prime location. I was content with the hotel itself. They have a Disco inside of the hotel called Angel Disco. Nana Plaza is soo close to Nana Hotel it's unbelievable just how short the distance. When I BF a girl from one of the Gogos at Nana Plaza, they get happy when they find out that my hotel is Nana Hotel. On top of that, you will see alot of freelancers/streetwalkers hanging out in Nana Hotel Parking lot. Nana Hotel is considered a wh*re hotel hehe. You'll see many girls walking in and out of that hotel. One thing I need to warn you about Nana Hotel though is that it does not have an in room safe. The room is pretty big for the price you pay and does have a mini bar.
Majestic Suites Hotel is just across Nana Hotel on the same side as Nana Plaza. Majestic Suites should be nicer and cleaner than Nana Hotel but, the rooms will be a little smaller. Not sure if it has in in room safe though.
If you stay at either of these hotels which both as mentioned from before are both GF. The girls just need to show their ID and leave the ID with the security guard who will be sitting near the elevators. There is Foodland Supermarket nearby also. It is across the Amari Boulevard Hotel on Soi 5. Just go onto the main road Sukhumvit, walk towards Nana BTS station and on your right, you'll see Landmark Hotel. If you look to your left, Foodland will be on the other side of Sukhumvit Road. You will need to cross the street.
Nana Plaza is just 1 Red Light District. You can also check out Soi Cowboy another Red Light District area which is not too far from Nana. Just go to Nana BTS station, catch the skytrain heading towards On Nut station. You will get off the first BTS station called Asoke BTS Station. Soi Cowboy is nearby. It should be near the Interchange Tower. Remember, Nana BTS station is the nearest station to Nana Hotel and Majestic Suites hotels.
Heh, don't forget to try a soapy man. It's quite an experience. They have many on Thanon Ratchadaphisek road. The main road before Soi Cowboy is Thanon Ratchadaphisek. There's many Soapys on this road. You can take a taxi or ride the Bangkok MRT subway station which is close to Soi Cowboy.
As far as sight seeing in Bangkok, I'd say check out The Grand Palace, Wat Pho and Wat Arun. All 3 of these are near the Chao Phrya River. I would say the easiest way to get there is utilize the BTS Skytrain and get off of Sapahan Taksin Station. Then from here, take a ferry boat and head north on the Chao Phrya River. This will take you to What Pho, Grand Palace and Wat Arun.
One of ISG Manila girls is back in town.
I saw Anna arriving from BKK or HK (can't be sure about which) in the airport.
She looked gorgeous as ever with a tiny black dress.
Pity she seemed to have relatives around otherwise I would have taken her for the night!
[QUOTE=Devils 1]Wanted to let everyone know about the Greenhills mall. Can't give you directions to where it is exactly. But both times I went there the cab driver knew it by name.[/QUOTE]
Greenhills Mall is on Ortigas Avenue in San Juan City. Its other great virtue is the huge flea market for pearls. Most are run by Muslim women, since the pearls themselves are mostly farmed in Mindanao. The number of competing booths is very impressive. If you want to buy some for a special lady -- or even for your own mother or sister -- be prepared to shop around and not commit early to a particular vendor. They negotiate, so always offer less than they ask. Then thank them and walk away. You can come back later after you've comparison shopped other booths. The pearls are probably all real, but you can always ask to check them in your teeth. If they're real, the vendors won't refuse your request. The trick is to put a pearl between two teeth and then run the tips of your teeth along the outside of the pearl. Real pearls have a bit of gritty texture; fake pearls will feel smooth.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]version in Pantip but my progress so far is very slow. Third, and correct me if I am wrong, doesn't it take a lot of time before you get it on with the girl (even if you use shortcut dating services like ThailoveLinks, CraigslistBKK, or Passion. Com)?
So FreebieFan, spill the beans. How do you do it?[/QUOTE]Quite honestly I'm not sure that I know how. But I do know that most of the THai girls I've been with have literally picked me. As in they send message to me on DIA or Tagged, Friendster etc without their pic.
Then when I've seemed interested then moved to email, ym chat etc webcam. Then I've managed to snag a trip to Thailand (in the case of another DIA 22 year old Thai girl we went to Singapore together)
I guess I come across to them as decent, clean cut, slightly older (I'm early 50s) but with playful attitude. Have to keep them interested with texts and sometimes daily messages but they deliver.
One girl (34) who worked in Siam Paragon was waiting for me in my hotel. Said Hi and were in bed 10 minutes after meeting face to face.
These ladies are generally in the 30 plus age range. They know they look good, and like to be treated well, but they arent generally 21 etc. One lady from CM (33) came to meet me and as part of out chat (obviously they all speak English well) the bet was about bowling. If I won we would go to bed. If not, no nookie. So I was bowling my heart out, and thankfully she let me win. Bedtime LOL.
Thes girls all have a sense of fun that their Filipina counterparts sometimes don't have.
My last Thai adventure saw me with a lovely Thai lady who loved to be fingered in public. Suan Lum, all taxis, Long gun bar etc. 35 and hot as could B. I guess I get lucky. But for sure, nothing also beats a 21 year Thai hottlie slathering oil over your best parts!
[QUOTE=Gogobarlover]
Majestic Suites Hotel is just across Nana Hotel on the same side as Nana Plaza. Majestic Suites should be nicer and cleaner than Nana Hotel but, the rooms will be a little smaller. Not sure if it has in in room safe though.
[/QUOTE]
Majestic Suites does have in room safes. I have stayed there twice and recommend it. One negative is that it does not have a driveway or entrance from the street so you have to negotiate the crowded sidewalk to get inside.
[url]http://www.majesticsuites.com/accomodation.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Beijing Lover]One of ISG Manila girls is back in town.
I saw Anna arriving from BKK or HK (can't be sure about which) in the airport.
She looked gorgeous as ever with a tiny black dress.
Pity she seemed to have relatives around otherwise I would have taken her for the night![/QUOTE]
I think that she has been in Macau, no doubt making tons of much needed money (she is putting her sister through college) whilst giving lots of pleasure to many happy Macauans.
Shame that I am not in town to avail myself of a promised freebie with my favourite fubu;).
Hello everyone!
I am going to the Philippines next year my first time, I have been in Thailand, Burma and Cambodia.
Can someone help me understand how is the nightlife in Manila?
I attend discos (Climax Bangkok, Phuket Tiger) in Manila, are there similar places or I have to attend the beer bars and what are their names?
Where can I find freelancers during the day and night ?
Is there finebar at beer bars in Manila,too? How much does is it cost?
How much does a St and a LT?
What are the best beer bars?
p.s
Las Cafè is a beer bar or a disco?
[QUOTE=Bortolo73]Hello everyone!
I am going to the Philippines next year my first time, I have been in Thailand, Burma and Cambodia.
Can someone help me understand how is the nightlife in Manila?
I attend discos (Climax Bangkok, Phuket Tiger) in Manila, are there similar places or I have to attend the beer bars and what are their names?
Where can I find freelancers during the day and night ?
Is there finebar at beer bars in Manila,too? How much does is it cost?
How much does a St and a LT?
What are the best beer bars?
PS: Las Cafè is a beer bar or a disco?[/QUOTE]Don't know much of the discos in Manila but, I know most of the gogo bars are in Makati on P Burgos Street, you can also find gogo bars in Pasay City.
EDSA International Entertainment Complex is in Pasay City located right before Mall of Asia.
LA Cafe is both a beer bar and disco. The disco is on the 2nd level and they also have live bands playing at LA Cafe. LA Cafe is located in Ermita which is north of Pasay City. I believe you can find alot of freelancers at LA Cafe.
P Burgos St in Makati
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3pF4aGpQpk[/url]
EDSA International Entertainment Complex in Pasay City
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LA Cafe in Ermita
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[QUOTE=Bortolo73]Hello everyone! I am going to the Philippines next year my first time, I have been in Thailand, Burma and Cambodia. Can someone help me understand how is the nightlife in Manila? I attend discos (Climax Bangkok, Phuket Tiger) in Manila, are there similar places or I have to attend the beer bars and what are their names? Where can I find freelancers during the day and night ? Is there finebar at beer bars in Manila,too? How much does is it cost? How much does a St and a LT? What are the best beer bars? Las Cafè is a beer bar or a disco?[/QUOTE]erm, let me see now...
Night life is good in Manila.
Yes there are discos in Manila.
There are many bars in Burgos Street (Makati) for a start as well as EDSA.
Free lancers are in malls & on the streets.
Bar fines range from P2000-P3000 & up.
ST can be had for as little as P500 & LT P1500-P3000 or more depending.
Sorry to be so brief but you would know this and more if you bothered at all to do even a little research of the relevant threads in the Philippines section of this board... Jeezus!
AV
[QUOTE=Bortolo73]Hello everyone!
I am going to the Philippines next year my first time, I have been in Thailand, Burma and Cambodia.
Can someone help me understand how is the nightlife in Manila?
I attend discos (Climax Bangkok, Phuket Tiger) in Manila, are there similar places or I have to attend the beer bars and what are their names?
Where can I find freelancers during the day and night ?
Is there finebar at beer bars in Manila,too? How much does is it cost?
How much does a St and a LT?
What are the best beer bars?
p.s
Las Cafè is a beer bar or a disco?[/QUOTE]
Read the fxxxing Forum top to bottom.
You will get all the info you need. Lazy?
[QUOTE=Sammon] Lazy?[/QUOTE]I am not lazy!it is only because I don't speak english very well,I don't understand well ,thanks!
But It's no problem I will follow the thread bettar I have 10 months for that!
Wow! 3000 pesos for fine bar is very expensive!
[QUOTE=Gogobarlover]Don't know much of the discos in Manila but, I know most of the gogo bars are in Makati on P Burgos Street, you can also find gogo bars in Pasay City.
EDSA International Entertainment Complex is in Pasay City located right before Mall of Asia.
LA Cafe is both a beer bar and disco. The disco is on the 2nd level and they also have live bands playing at LA Cafe. LA Cafe is located in Ermita which is north of Pasay City. I believe you can find alot of freelancers at LA Cafe.
P Burgos St in Makati
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3pF4aGpQpk[/url]
EDSA International Entertainment Complex in Pasay City
[url]http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/12969899.jpg[/url]
LA Cafe in Ermita
[url]http://gibler.unboxyourself.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/front-of-the-la-cafe-manila-dscf0123.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]Hi Gogobarlover!
Thanks for your kind reply, you know I have been a lots time in Thailand and Manila look like very strange,many news places, a new experience!
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]
But yes, I have one or two friends who delight in no panties....Had a memorable meal in Filling Station last year with one such pantie-less lady. Glad I only need one hand to eat a burger. lol.
My next trip should be either late April or May.
Although Im taking a 22 year old Indonesian student to Singapore at about same time. 22 year old Indonesian...22 year old Filipina.... life has sonme tough calls. !!![/QUOTE]
FF
LOL, was going to say I hope you remembered which hand you used to eat the burger with but am sure both would taste sweet ;)
Remember one night in UAE with a Filipina, micro mini, no panties and she opended her legs to a group of 4 guys who were staring, one nearly fell of his seat in the bar...she was also sitting above some people who also saw same...wonderful memeories
Tough I agree, mine is 18 soon to be 19 (22 is OK but not much older - I do have standards :D) and I hope/planning am there for her birthday...so May is my likely landing date middle (ish). And what a birthday present she will receive ;) I do believe in a mix of nice and traditional and very kinky presents....and you know which ones I am good at choosing ;)
PM me, email me and lets hope we can catch up, maybe swap dates as mine will like yours :D
Dear all,
how much isthe existing rate in EDSA ENT. COMPLEX for:
BAR FINE
ST
LT
LADIES DRINKS
BEERS
ANY TABLE CHARGE?
AND ALSO LA CAFE HOW IS THE ST And lt
cHEERS.
I have searched and RTFF, but I still feel the need to ask if anyone can recommend a good weekly condo or suite hotel in Manila. I've spent a few nights at the Pan Pacific, which I enjoyed. But staying for a week this May, I don't want to pay $150+ per night, and I'd prefer more of a condo / apartment type place.
My preferences are:
- separate bedroom and living/dining areas
- kitchenette / refrigerator / microwave, preferably with a small stove, kitchenware
- reliable broadband Internet service, preferably included in room rate or reasonable extra cost; I need to be online constantly
- good desk and chair or sofa and coffee table for computing and working
- clean, no cockroaches, ants, bed bugs
- quiet, no disco noise or construction noise
- girl-friendly (of course)
- reasonably good access via walking or short taxi rides to restauarants / shops / malls (to pick up chicks, not to shop)
- good gym in the building or very nearby
- sufficient security to prevent clingers from showing up at the door, and for my IT gear not to get stolen
- maximum US $100 / night all in, preferably less
From reviews I've read on several travel sites, Linden Suites Hotel in Ortigas seems to be exactly what I need, but I'm concerned as to whether or not this place is girl-friendly? It's reputed to be a high-security place, recommended for women travelers and families. Does this mean NON-girl-friendly, or can a guy bring in a couple of chicks daily with no problems? How is Ortigas generally in terms of location and access?
Some members here have recommended A. Venue Makati Hotel, but I've read many reviews on travel sites complaining of insect infestation and all-night construction noise. G-Hotel, recommended here, has suites, but they don't have kitchenettes.
I hope to be mostly with non-pro's or semi-pro's I've met on web sites, as well as ad hoc mall pickups, rather than bar-fining chicks. So I don't care much about quick access to girlie bars. Thanks for any recommendations.
The Linden Suites is indeed gf.
There is also a back entrance that you can use, however I think that it is locked at about 10 pm, or maybe 11.
You might also investigate the Emerald mansion, on Emerald Avenue. It is also in Ortigas, and has two entrances. This is not a hotel, but apartments are avaiable for rent. I am not sure if they will rent for 1 week, but they will certainly rent for one month. I think it is about 40,000 per month, a very good rate for a full apartment in a high end part of the city.
Good luck,
Gangles
[QUOTE=Genkisugiru]I have searched and RTFF, but I still feel the need to ask if anyone can recommend a good weekly condo or suite hotel in Manila. I've spent a few nights at the Pan Pacific, which I enjoyed. But staying for a week this May, I don't want to pay $150+ per night, and I'd prefer more of a condo / apartment type place.
My preferences are:
- separate bedroom and living/dining areas
- kitchenette / refrigerator / microwave, preferably with a small stove, kitchenware
- reliable broadband Internet service, preferably included in room rate or reasonable extra cost; I need to be online constantly
- good desk and chair or sofa and coffee table for computing and working
- clean, no cockroaches, ants, bed bugs
- quiet, no disco noise or construction noise
- girl-friendly (of course)
- reasonably good access via walking or short taxi rides to restauarants / shops / malls (to pick up chicks, not to shop)
- good gym in the building or very nearby
- sufficient security to prevent clingers from showing up at the door, and for my IT gear not to get stolen
- maximum US $100 / night all in, preferably less
From reviews I've read on several travel sites, Linden Suites Hotel in Ortigas seems to be exactly what I need, but I'm concerned as to whether or not this place is girl-friendly? It's reputed to be a high-security place, recommended for women travelers and families. Does this mean NON-girl-friendly, or can a guy bring in a couple of chicks daily with no problems? How is Ortigas generally in terms of location and access?
Some members here have recommended A. Venue Makati Hotel, but I've read many reviews on travel sites complaining of insect infestation and all-night construction noise. G-Hotel, recommended here, has suites, but they don't have kitchenettes.
I hope to be mostly with non-pro's or semi-pro's I've met on web sites, as well as ad hoc mall pickups, rather than bar-fining chicks. So I don't care much about quick access to girlie bars. Thanks for any recommendations.[/QUOTE]
Contact a local Real Estate agent like Gold Rock Realty for example & book a condo like East Ortigas Mansions for example. Much cheaper, club house with WiFi swimming pool, cafe serving meals & endless pretty girls to ogle/try your luck on. A little further out of the city than the hotels but very nice to live in if you are staying for awhile.
AV
Hey guys,
I just had my gf w me late night at new world hotel in makati and they called security on my because she forgot her id? No I'd. They sent her back home to QZ city and I did not get any aktion. GRRRRRRRR. I never had this happen ANYWHERE in Philippines before. WTF! I'm staying at Peninsula hotel in Makati on my trip in May. Can I expect similar crap from hotel security then?
Nigel
[QUOTE=Macho Dik]Dear all,
how much isthe existing rate in EDSA ENT. COMPLEX for:
BAR FINE
ST
LT
LADIES DRINKS
BEERS
ANY TABLE CHARGE?
AND ALSO LA CAFE HOW IS THE ST And lt
cHEERS.[/QUOTE]Can't speak to EDSA. Few months ago LAC and G-Point Cafe were same. P1500 ST and 2000-2500 LT was typical. Twice girls hit on 1500 for LT, one in Gpoint and one in LAC. Also twice ST turned into LT just because it was late and the gal fell asleep after. Couple of times I could not get rid of the gal the next day. I saw girls asking 3K, and guys offereing 2000 for ST. Also had guys tell me they offered 2000 then tipped 1000 for ST and thought it was a steal. Sheesh, not so smart. Ya up in Makati some of the bf is 3000, and gents are tipping 1-3K on top of that. Nutso. 8 out of 10 will hit at 1.5K for 3 hours.
[QUOTE=Naughty Nigel]Hey guys,
I just had my gf w me late night at new world hotel in makati and they called security on my because she forgot her id? No I'd. They sent her back home to QZ city and I did not get any aktion. GRRRRRRRR. I never had this happen ANYWHERE in Philippines before. WTF! I'm staying at Peninsula hotel in Makati on my trip in May. Can I expect similar crap from hotel security then?
Nigel[/QUOTE]
Sorry to hear that mate but one question I always ask my gf for the night is "do you have your ID?"
I have encountered a number of hotels (New World, Heritage spring to mind) that will ask for ID, especially if you are late (like after 2 am). Once she shows the ID then no worries. More and more hotels elsewhere in SE Asia are now asking for ID to cover themselves in case something unexpected happens in the room.
Just out of curiosity; did you register for a double or single occupancy?
Yep. I had the same problem the the New World. I stated this at another time. But no one believed me on this forum. Peninsula should be not problem. Just remember if you enter any high class hotel after 10 pm. The security watch increases for hookers. They have to register. Etc. Best to get back early.
[QUOTE=Naughty Nigel]Hey guys,
I just had my gf w me late night at new world hotel in makati and they called security on my because she forgot her id? No I'd. They sent her back home to QZ city and I did not get any aktion. GRRRRRRRR. I never had this happen ANYWHERE in Philippines before. WTF! I'm staying at Peninsula hotel in Makati on my trip in May. Can I expect similar crap from hotel security then?
Nigel[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure how it played out and haven't been to this hotel, but it sounds like you had the girl come to your hotel on her own? If that's the case, they may have been asking for her id coming in alone like that. That happens at one of the hotels I stay at, and when she leaves alone they call up the room and make sure everything is ok. But when I actually am with the woman when I come into this hotel, they don't ask for her id, but if she leaves without me, they will stop her at the door and call the room id left or not. Also, if she comes alone they will call up the room and make sure it's ok for her to come up.
[QUOTE=Naughty Nigel]Hey guys,
I just had my gf w me late night at new world hotel in makati and they called security on my because she forgot her id? No I'd. They sent her back home to QZ city and I did not get any aktion. GRRRRRRRR. I never had this happen ANYWHERE in Philippines before. WTF! I'm staying at Peninsula hotel in Makati on my trip in May. Can I expect similar crap from hotel security then?
Nigel[/QUOTE]
Why is this crap and why focus on other hotels that requires ID cards from their guests? More logical to ensure your GF has her ID with her thus eliminating this problem.
Had my first trip to Manila recently, only a one nighter though so tried to make the most of it.
After some research on the forum I had decided to head to Burgous and then to Cafe Havana, and if those two did not work out for me, then would do EDSA later.
LA was to be saved for the next trip.
But then, as so many times before, a quick chat with my taxi driver and all plans are replaced by new :)
Firstly he told me he could take me to some apartments with 20 or so girls, where you can pick for take out and massage. This did not attract me at all, cause I really prefer the freedom to browse the goods before you have to make a decision. At apartments, my experience is that you get a few seconds to see the girls then you have to pick one. Besides I wanted to see some of Manila's nightlife. Anyone else have experience with these apartments?
When I told the driver I wanted to go to Burgous, he said he knew other places with better show, where the girls go totally nude. I was surprised as I thought they would do that in Burgous, but he said the law is upheld stricter in Makati becuase it is a business district so no nudity (can anyone confirm?). I then agreed to go with him to a show place where the girls will strip down completely. Ended up not far from airport I think, Rohas/Rojas Boulevard. This street had quite a few clubs with titles including "international show/entertainment". My driver's recomendation was Asia Club or Asia something. At door they will ask you to leave you mobile if it has a camera. Inside you get seated, and a manager will come and ask you to order drinks and if you want company. Yes and yes! He then took me to view an aquarium, girls seated in three - four rows with numbers. Price was 875 per hour, including a ladies drink.
If you want take out, he said minimum spending on the house was 2 hours, and the take out fee was 8k. Didn't bother to nego the take out, as I wasn't going to do that anyway, but picked a nice girl who turned out very good in English so had a good hour.
The place looks has a big stage, with all couches facing the stage. On stage they have normal dance acts (no nudity) as intermission entertainment, some girls just come on and dance in their bikinis or topless but not very entertaining. And then there will be some more engaging dances where the girl goes all nude. To my disappointment, there wasn't any striptease though. Like found in the US, where the girls definitely tease more. Here it is more like a dance, but nude. All clientele was asian it seemed.
While sitting there with my girl I was informed that the covercharge of 800-something was also added to my bill, was no informed of this before I entered to be aware. My long island was around 400 if I remember correct. After the main dance event, the dancer came over to my table and suddenly she had a drink I had to pay some 800 for as well. She rubbed me up well, and was very hot, but only stayed for a few minutes as she obviously wanted to do as many tables as possible.
Talked to one of the managers and he said all the clubs there had the same setup.
This was not my thing but an interesting experience nonetheless. Final bill had amounted to around 3.5k.
Saw many smaller looking bars etc heading to and from this area, might try some others next time.
Told driver to take me to Cafe Havana, which surprised him, he told me there is nothing happening there, but I wanted to see it.
Cafe Havana looks like a normal bar, and for a second I thought there might be a chance to score some freebies here. At the bar this spanish girl was all over me (she said she was spanish, but might have been south american for all I know), but she was not my type so I pulled away. Then caught eyes of a very nice looking philippina, talked to her and the friend, danced had drinks, she told me she was a stewardess with Cebu, I thought I was the MAN. Then suddenly, the ugly looking friend asked me if I wanted both of them to come with me and I realized I had been blind. No freebies here. I said I wasn't interested in both, cause frankly I am not sure I could have managed to get it up if the ugly one had followed. They offered 6k for both, I offered 3k for the stewardess which was rejected and she was already eyeing someone else. So took a stroll around, talked to an australian girl who was there to party with her pakistani friend, they were definitely not working. But all the philippinas I talked to later was all, without exception, there to sell their services. Inside and outside. Asking price/going price seemed around 5k, I got one for 3k after handling her bar bill of 1.3k. Very good looking but a disappointment in the sack.
Next time it is time for EDSA and LA, and possibly Burgous if time permits.
How far is it from EDSA to LA?
Oh, paid my driver who had been with me for 4-5 hours, 1.5k, any comments on that?
[QUOTE=Amavida]Contact a local Real Estate agent like Gold Rock Realty for example & book a condo like East Ortigas Mansions for example. Much cheaper, club house with WiFi swimming pool, cafe serving meals & endless pretty girls to ogle/try your luck on. A little further out of the city than the hotels but very nice to live in if you are staying for awhile.
AV[/QUOTE]Thank you for these helpful tips!
[QUOTE=Gangles]The Linden Suites is indeed gf.
There is also a back entrance that you can use, however I think that it is locked at about 10 pm, or maybe 11.
You might also investigate the Emerald mansion, on Emerald Avenue. It is also in Ortigas, and has two entrances. This is not a hotel, but apartments are avaiable for rent. I am not sure if they will rent for 1 week, but they will certainly rent for one month. I think it is about 40,000 per month, a very good rate for a full apartment in a high end part of the city.
Good luck,
Gangles[/QUOTE]Hey Gangles,
Thank you for confirming Linden is GF, and for these other great leads.
Re: your comment, "There is also a back entrance that you can use" -- I'm hoping to hear this from the girls on my upcoming trip to PH!
[QUOTE=Liondale]Had my first trip to Manila recently, only a one nighter though so tried to make the most of it.
After some research on the forum I had decided to head to Burgous and then to Cafe Havana, and if those two did not work out for me, then would do EDSA later.
LA was to be saved for the next trip.
Oh, paid my driver who had been with me for 4-5 hours, 1.5k, any comments on that?[/QUOTE]We all have had a first time - and all made mistakes. You will get plenty of posts about how much you overpaid for everything but I think you would be far better off next time sticking to your plans that you had made after RTFF.
P
[QUOTE=Liondale]Had my first trip to Manila recently, only a one nighter though so tried to make the most of it.
After some research on the forum I had decided to head to Burgous and then to Cafe Havana, and if those two did not work out for me, then would do EDSA later.
LA was to be saved for the next trip.
But then, as so many times before, a quick chat with my taxi driver and all plans are replaced by new :)
Firstly he told me he could take me to some apartments with 20 or so girls, where you can pick for take out and massage. This did not attract me at all, cause I really prefer the freedom to browse the goods before you have to make a decision. At apartments, my experience is that you get a few seconds to see the girls then you have to pick one. Besides I wanted to see some of Manila's nightlife. Anyone else have experience with these apartments?
When I told the driver I wanted to go to Burgous, he said he knew other places with better show, where the girls go totally nude. I was surprised as I thought they would do that in Burgous, but he said the law is upheld stricter in Makati becuase it is a business district so no nudity (can anyone confirm?). I then agreed to go with him to a show place where the girls will strip down completely. Ended up not far from airport I think, Rohas/Rojas Boulevard. This street had quite a few clubs with titles including "international show/entertainment". My driver's recomendation was Asia Club or Asia something. At door they will ask you to leave you mobile if it has a camera. Inside you get seated, and a manager will come and ask you to order drinks and if you want company. Yes and yes! He then took me to view an aquarium, girls seated in three - four rows with numbers. Price was 875 per hour, including a ladies drink.
If you want take out, he said minimum spending on the house was 2 hours, and the take out fee was 8k. Didn't bother to nego the take out, as I wasn't going to do that anyway, but picked a nice girl who turned out very good in English so had a good hour.
The place looks has a big stage, with all couches facing the stage. On stage they have normal dance acts (no nudity) as intermission entertainment, some girls just come on and dance in their bikinis or topless but not very entertaining. And then there will be some more engaging dances where the girl goes all nude. To my disappointment, there wasn't any striptease though. Like found in the US, where the girls definitely tease more. Here it is more like a dance, but nude. All clientele was asian it seemed.
While sitting there with my girl I was informed that the covercharge of 800-something was also added to my bill, was no informed of this before I entered to be aware. My long island was around 400 if I remember correct. After the main dance event, the dancer came over to my table and suddenly she had a drink I had to pay some 800 for as well. She rubbed me up well, and was very hot, but only stayed for a few minutes as she obviously wanted to do as many tables as possible.
Talked to one of the managers and he said all the clubs there had the same setup.
This was not my thing but an interesting experience nonetheless. Final bill had amounted to around 3.5k.
Saw many smaller looking bars etc heading to and from this area, might try some others next time.
Told driver to take me to Cafe Havana, which surprised him, he told me there is nothing happening there, but I wanted to see it.
Cafe Havana looks like a normal bar, and for a second I thought there might be a chance to score some freebies here. At the bar this spanish girl was all over me (she said she was spanish, but might have been south american for all I know), but she was not my type so I pulled away. Then caught eyes of a very nice looking philippina, talked to her and the friend, danced had drinks, she told me she was a stewardess with Cebu, I thought I was the MAN. Then suddenly, the ugly looking friend asked me if I wanted both of them to come with me and I realized I had been blind. No freebies here. I said I wasn't interested in both, cause frankly I am not sure I could have managed to get it up if the ugly one had followed. They offered 6k for both, I offered 3k for the stewardess which was rejected and she was already eyeing someone else. So took a stroll around, talked to an australian girl who was there to party with her pakistani friend, they were definitely not working. But all the philippinas I talked to later was all, without exception, there to sell their services. Inside and outside. Asking price/going price seemed around 5k, I got one for 3k after handling her bar bill of 1.3k. Very good looking but a disappointment in the sack.
Next time it is time for EDSA and LA, and possibly Burgous if time permits.
How far is it from EDSA to LA?
Oh, paid my driver who had been with me for 4-5 hours, 1.5k, any comments on that?[/QUOTE]Since you were only there 1 night I would have recommended you got to a nice hotel in Makati, went straight to Burgos St and BF one or two ladies for lots of nice sex. Least hassle & best bet given limited time.
The prices you paid/were quoted for everything all along the way on your night of exploration were astronomically high.
The 'apartments' you mention are known as casa's. They are underground illegal brothels catering mostly to locals (very cheap) and foreigners desperate to walk a dangerous path (not so cheap). I would'nt recommend them.
Cheers mate
AV
[QUOTE=Genkisugiru]I have searched and RTFF, but I still feel the need to ask if anyone can recommend a good weekly condo or suite hotel in Manila. I've spent a few nights at the Pan Pacific, which I enjoyed. But staying for a week this May, I don't want to pay $150+ per night, and I'd prefer more of a condo / apartment type place.[/QUOTE]I just responded in "Manila hotels" section
Funny, if I pick something up or bring back a bargirl I make sure to steer her toward the info desk where they ask her to leave her ID. Much safer this way.
At the Nana hotel in Bangkok they actually set up a table at the elevators in the eveining to check ids.
[QUOTE=Run Mann]Why is this crap and why focus on other hotels that requires ID cards from their guests? More logical to ensure your GF has her ID with her thus eliminating this problem.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Amavida]Since you were only there 1 night I would have recommended you got to a nice hotel in Makati, went straight to Burgos St and BF one or two ladies for lots of nice sex. Least hassle & best bet given limited time.
The prices you paid/were quoted for everything all along the way on your night of exploration were astronomically high.
The 'apartments' you mention are known as casa's. They are underground illegal brothels catering mostly to locals (very cheap) and foreigners desperate to walk a dangerous path (not so cheap). I would'nt recommend them.
Cheers mate
AV[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your advice.
I thought barfine + ST/LT in Burgos would anyway amount to 3-5k? Or have I misunderstood.
Please share.