Just an FYI. Insomnia nightclub in Malate on Remedios is now closed. The owners have opened a new place called Exklusiv around the corner on Adriatico. It's massive. Still no cover charge.
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Just an FYI. Insomnia nightclub in Malate on Remedios is now closed. The owners have opened a new place called Exklusiv around the corner on Adriatico. It's massive. Still no cover charge.
In Manila now.
1. Due to high season. Taxi's are very very hard to find. Sometimes it takes close to 40 minutes to find one and if you get lucky, its Plus 50 usually. Taxi drivers in Manila are still A*holes as they were before but gotten more due to X'mas. Use Caution. I mean they can really ruin your night out.
1A) From Airport, yellow Taxis are using Dual Meters, one for locals who know they use it, one for tourist. Sit in front, notice the Meter, If the Meter touches 100 Pesos from 70 even before exiting Airport Area. Call Him on it. And tell him you will complain. He will usually say. Ohh sir, sorry forgot BS and then readjust it with correct meter. Or better go to Departure gate from stairs and get the white taxi but still use the above caution.
2A) The taxi guys are still having 7-8 kids, wife working in Middle East, haven't seen wife for years, have mistress on the side, more babies. One taxi guy came from Province just for the X'Mas Season to make a killing. Has 7-8 kids back home. You can imagine the desperation.
If you can. Don't come NOW. Its madness in Manila. Traffic is very very heavy. And everyone is buying car on credit. Traffic is crazy.
Come After X'mas, January or Skip Manila. Go to A / see or other places.
2. Hotels are available but in some places. Prices have gone up. But you will find rooms. Book before you come. Due to X'mas the entire OFW is in Philippines
3. Manila is slowly becoming like Bangkok. KL. Things are becoming expensive with less on offer. MERALCO raised This month charges to 3. 44 kw / h. The highest increase ever. So make sure, you ask about the power rate before you check in to your condo or hotel. They will even though charge it in parts. The hotels, condo owners just giving excuses to increase the power rates now.
I searched many condos for long term stay through Sulit. They are all small rat holes with 20 to 25K per month. Even in BGC and Makati. If you are a big guy above 6. Don't book it through online. I'm afraid you won't be able to fit yourself in the bathroom. They are made Filipino size. I had known this before but wanted to check new condos being built all around. They are all for Midgets. Even midgets will find it offensive.
Now. To the good stuff.
Girls. Its plenty on offer. You can even get laid for free. Its all about luck, right timings. But the free girls are hard to let go off as they consider you as your own. I tried the craigslist option, Havana Cafe, DIA, Cupid. The quality is more or less same. Price 1000 to 2000 or just food and red horse. Taxi fare.
I saw many farangs in palladium, Green belt. Getting hit upon left and right but the guys getting wasted on endless drinks, some had to be carried on by security and put up near taxi stand. They seems to be going through lots of issues. They are here just to be here. Not really after girls. I mean I saw girls literally pulling one guy to take them and yet like some Hollywood celebrities, the guys being in their own zone and letting the girls go.
Unless you want to F*ck 24/7 don't come here. For girls. Sex is like tissue paper they wipe off from their faces. NO BIG DEAL.
Don't make a mistake thinking after sex, you will have something ELSE to do to find your inner-self, spirituality, your new life. Forget it.
I feel there is only one thing that is working for all of us here. SEX. Everything else is working against us
What building is that in? I'm stuck near Green Bay in a blizzard and trying to remember that trip around the corner. Cardinal Sin Gym?
[QUOTE=Starchild2012; 1510570]In Manila now.
1. Due to high season. Taxi's are very very hard to find. Sometimes it takes close to 40 minutes to find one and if you get lucky, its Plus 50 usually. Taxi drivers in Manila are still A*holes as they were before but gotten more due to X'mas. Use Caution. I mean they can really ruin your night out.
1A) From Airport, yellow Taxis are using Dual Meters, one for locals who know they use it, one for tourist. Sit in front, notice the Meter, If the Meter touches 100 Pesos from 70 even before exiting Airport Area. Call Him on it. And tell him you will complain. He will usually say. Ohh sir, sorry forgot BS and then readjust it with correct meter. Or better go to Departure gate from stairs and get the white taxi but still use the above caution.
2A) The taxi guys are still having 7-8 kids, wife working in Middle East, haven't seen wife for years, have mistress on the side, more babies. One taxi guy came from Province just for the X'Mas Season to make a killing. Has 7-8 kids back home...[/QUOTE]I am trying to understand. Taxi ripping you 30 pesos ruins your day while you can get free pussy!
I think those farangs are getting wasted and crying over their drinks about the taxis. Meanwhile missing out on free pussy. Pretty ironic that security would throw them back to the curb and let the taxis have another go at them!
Hotels rip you at $50 a night instead of $40 and you can't get a hardon for free pussy!
Good advice. Don't come here.
[QUOTE=FineDay;1510406]Does anybody know which hotel Punter is referring to?[/QUOTE]Brickstone Hotel.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2505-Manila-Hotels&p=1425393&viewfull=1#post1425393[/url]
[QUOTE=Slippery;1510574]What building is that in? I'm stuck near Green Bay in a blizzard and trying to remember that trip around the corner. Cardinal Sin Gym?[/QUOTE]Don't know the name, but "Exklusiv" is emblazoned right on the front of it, so I guess it's the Exklusiv building. :p
If walking from Insomnia to Adriatico turn right and walk 30 metres or so. It's a massive (white or light grey?) building on the right side of the street.
[QUOTE=Starchild2012;1510570]In Manila now.
1. Due to high season. Taxi's are very very hard to find. Sometimes it takes close to 40 minutes to find one and if you get lucky, its Plus 50 usually. Taxi drivers in Manila are still A*holes as they were before but gotten more due to X'mas. Use Caution. I mean they can really ruin your night out.[/quote]
Have to agree that it's getting tough. I usually leave my place in Makati at 11pm or so to go out and for the past 2 weeks it's been a 20-minute minute wait on Buendia. I rarely have any hassles with drivers.
[QUOTE=Starchild2012;1510570]1A) From Airport, yellow Taxis are using Dual Meters, one for locals who know they use it, one for tourist. Sit in front, notice the Meter, If the Meter touches 100 Pesos from 70 even before exiting Airport Area. Call Him on it. And tell him you will complain. He will usually say. Ohh sir, sorry forgot BS and then readjust it with correct meter. Or better go to Departure gate from stairs and get the white taxi but still use the above caution.[/quote]
Good info.
[QUOTE=Starchild2012;1510570]
3. Manila is slowly becoming like Bangkok. KL. Things are becoming expensive with less on offer. MERALCO raised This month charges to 3. 44 kw / h. The highest increase ever. So make sure, you ask about the power rate before you check in to your condo or hotel. They will even though charge it in parts. The hotels, condo owners just giving excuses to increase the power rates now.[/quote] I'm glad you mentioned the MERALCO bump. The increase will happen over 3 months for a total of more than 4 pesos kw/h. I consume approx 500 kw per month so it's an extra 2000p out of my pocket. This cost will certainly be passed on to consumers. MERALCO states the hike is temporary and I believe this to be the case. However I doubt everyone will re-adjust their prices down once the electricity rates return to normal.
[QUOTE=Starchild2012;1510570]
I searched many condos for long term stay through Sulit. They are all small rat holes with 20 to 25K per month. Even in BGC and Makati. If you are a big guy above 6. Don't book it through online. I'm afraid you won't be able to fit yourself in the bathroom. They are made Filipino size. I had known this before but wanted to check new condos being built all around. They are all for Midgets. Even midgets will find it offensive.[/quote] I guess I got lucky. My one-bedroom furnished place is 32 square metres and is spacious enough for non midgets. Swimming pool, washing machine, good-sized bathroom. Only complaint is an electric hob and no oven. New neighbours are a bit too noisy.
[QUOTE=Starchild2012;1510570]I feel there is only one thing that is working for all of us here. SEX. Everything else is working against us[/QUOTE]I was in Manila last week and got fleeced 500 p from Pasay to Malate. All drivers insisted it was 500 at 5 am. One fellow said 480 and when we reached and I gave 500, of course he didn't have 20 p change. Wasn't in mood to fight. It is happy hour come Christmas season. Every year its the time to fleece foreigners and OFWs on home visit.
BTW, if you ever pass by SG a beer is on me. Good write up.
[QUOTE=Hutsori; 1510581]Brickstone Hotel.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2505-Manila-Hotels&p=1425393&viewfull=1#post1425393[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks Hutsori.
I'll check it out when I go to Manila in January and post my opinion for other potential visitors.
Anyone have a restaurant recommendation for a great feast on Christmas? Prefer to keep it under p3500 per person.
[QUOTE=Starchild2012;1510570]I feel there is only one thing that is working for all of us here. SEX. Everything else is working against us[/QUOTE]This should be posted in the Hall of Fame as an ISG Quote of the Year!
So I spent my first Saturday at Plan B. They have a ton of girls there. I counted 62! All of them are girls and many hot tight bodies. I hate the deal where the ugly ones gang up on you when you come in but I guess you got to deal with it. I try to say nicely I am not interested but they do persist. After I go rid of them- no massage- no drink bla bla bla. I picked a tiny little tight bodied girl. She was about 4' 10 or so I guess. Super small waist and nice looking, she says she was 18.
Paid the bar fine- which was not to bad I though at P2,600. Got here back to the room and we had a great time. Everything but Anal, no condom. I have to say I liked Plan B on P. Burgos. It had better looking girls then a lot of the places and the bar fine was the cheapest I found. The girls have really tight bodies with only a few chubby ones.
Next I think I will try Manila cafe to see how it goes. I will post me findings.
Does all Filipino food pretty much suck? Some of it might taste OK, but holly crap is it bad for you. The restaurants here are great with really good foods, but the Filipino joints and the stuff on the street is pretty bad.
Is there anything that can be recommended to try? Anything that is kind of healthy and not full of sugar, carbs, fat and grease?
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1510957]Anyone have a restaurant recommendation for a great feast on Christmas? Prefer to keep it under p3500 per person.[/QUOTE]The Mandarin's Tivoli is offering a Christmas Day Lunch for PHP 1,740 and Dinner for PHP 2,600. Main course appears to be traditional roasted turkey. Also, they are offering a Christmas Day Gourmet Lunch and Dinner Buffet at PHP 1,980 with both Western and Oriental specialties: turkey, beef rib eye, shawarma, and pasta stations. They even have a more Oriental Christmas celebration in Tin Hau. For reservations, call 750-8888 ext 2411/2412.
[QUOTE=OneIpole;1511260]Does all Filipino food pretty much suck?[/QUOTE]Any of the vegetable dishes are healthy, and can be very good. Check out pinakbet for example. There are some very nice soups, like sinigang. Generally the simplest foods are the best, like grilled fish with vegetables and garlic rice. The trick is in finding restaurants that actually care about the quality of their food. They do exist.
Believe it or not Board Members: #3 on the Lonely Planet Top Ten list is Adobo in the PI!
Ten of the best hidden foodie highlights by JOHANNA ASHBY· 28 October 2013.
Savour these deliciously off-beat traditional specialties and get a true taste of the local culture to boot.
1. Chicago, USA.
Classic Chicago hotdog with fries. Throw out any misgivings you might have about the plebeian hot dog – Chicago's version of this all-American classic is an all-beef affair, spiced with mustard, pickle relish and celery salt, topped with fresh diced tomatoes and onions, a pickle spear and hot sport peppers. This truly indigenous food is said to be the invention of the Windy City's enterprising residents and their multicultural heritage of European, Jewish and Mediterranean roots. No ordinary hot dog, a tasty frankfurter and salad encased in a soft poppy-seed bun makes this one elegant snack. Tuck into an authentic Chicago-style hot dog at one of the city's many Vienna Beef hot-dog stands; [url]www.viennabeef.com.[/url]
2. Vincisgrassi, Le Marche, Italy.
The Marchigianis' take on lasagne is not for the faint of heart, turbo-charged with; no less than 12 layers of slippery soft pasta sheets enriched with vino cotto, interspersed with a rich veal ragout spiked with chicken livers, lamb sweetbreads, truffles and wild mushrooms, all blanketed with a velvety beéchamel sauce and grated parmesan cheese. The name is said to come from Austrian General Windisch Graetz, whose army helped liberate the regional capital, Ancona, from the French in the 18th century. Unsurprisingly, this baked dish of epic proportions is largely reserved for special occasions and the height of truffle season. Simpler versions of the original can be enjoyed in the city of Macerata's many charming osterie.
3. Adobo, the Philippines.
It's hard to believe a dish with only four ingredients could taste so good and unify a nation. The Philippines' 7000-plus islands are agreed in their love for the national dish of adobo – a satisfyingly savoury meat stew seasoned only with garlic, soy sauce and vinegar. Served with plain boiled rice, the humble adobo is a lunch or dinner staple and a standard offering at office canteens and carinderia (street stalls) across the country. Each household, city and province will have their own chicken or pork variations with additional ingredients such as chicken livers, peppercorns or bay leaves but a classic chicken adobo is the country's firm favourite. Whip up your own adobo with this recipe from the Food Network ( [url]www.foodnetwork.com[/url] ) search for Filipino chicken adobo.
4. Lobster, Cuba.
Cuba might be economically poor but its embarrassment of cultural riches, intriguing political history and impressive health and education systems continue to attract curious tourists to the enigmatic island. Better-known for its music, cigars and rum, food is largely a secondary consideration for the majority of Cubans so food lovers are often in for a surprise when they discover an abundance of lobster, still largely a delicacy in the West. Typically grilled in the half-shell and smothered in lemon and butter, the local lobster is fleshy yet sweet and best of all, comes supersized and super-cheap in the country's state-run restaurants. Check out the iconic Los Nardos restaurant in Havana for generously sized lobsters at mind-bogglingly decent prices.
5. Fideuà, Catalonia, Spain.
Fideuà is the Catalonian version of one of Spain's best-known culinary exports, paella. In place of rice, short, thin, vermicelli-like noodles called fideus are steeped in a saffron- and tomato-infused fish broth and topped with fresh seafood, including prawns, squid and shellfish, and a dollop of rich aioli. Fideuà is a feast for the senses with its eye-popping golden hue and heady smells of garlic and the sea. Catalans love nothing more than sharing the dish among family and friends and washing it down with generous jugs of cava or white wine in a convivial atmosphere. The cities of Cambrils and Palamos boast some of the finest fideuà, including at Bell Port on 1 Passeig del Mar in Palamos.
6. Khachapuri, Sochi, Russia.
Those hotfooting it to Sochi for the 2014 Winter Olympics are in for a cheesy treat with a local specialty, khachapuri. A cross between pide and pizza, this traditional Georgian yeast bread is a labour of love, hand-kneaded twice and baked in a very hot clay oven. Filled and topped with a rather salty local cheese called sulguni, an authentic khachapuri is blistered, puffy and flaky, with a chewy texture and the lip-smacking savoury goodness of a melted cheese sandwich. Khachapuri are typically enjoyed on their own or with a tarragon and walnut salad, or as a hearty side dish. Cafe Natasha in Sochi city serves a diet-busting supersize version oozing with butter and melted cheese and an egg on top.
7. Oden, Japan.
Everyone knows about ramen, udon and soba but it is oden that the Japanese turn to when in need of hot and soothing comfort food. This winter staple comprises a soup in which ingredients are slowly simmered, including tofu, fish cakes, eggs, vegetables and meat. The soy base lends the dish its characteristic but unflattering shade of brown, but don't let that put you off – good oden has a delicate yet complex-flavoured broth and a spread of foods with a variety of tastes and textures, which can be found in Japan's many atmospheric oden restaurants. Top tip: the convenience store version is best avoided. Sample exotic delicacies in one of Tokyo's oldest oden restaurants, Otafuku.
8. Incir Dolmasi, Turkey.
Cheekily referred to by locals as 'Turkish Viagra', the sticky sweet walnut-stuffed figs are a favourite dessert and snack found in street food stalls all over the country. Soft dried figs are studded with cloves, stuffed with a whole walnut, then gently poached in a cinnamon-flavoured sugar syrup. Like the savoury dolma (vegetables filled with rice or meat) , incir dolmas&305; are a hallmark of the stuffed foods of Turkey's much-lauded Ottoman cuisine. Whether the figs live up to their nickname is a moot point, but one thing is for sure: they go down a treat with Turkish coffee. Learn how to make your own at home at the A La Turka cookery school in &304; Istanbul [url]www.cookingalaturka.com[/url]
9. Nem, New Caledonia.
Dubbed Tropical France, the tiny island of New Caledonia enjoys a reputation as a gourmet destination with its French, Melanesian and Pacific influences creating an original and fascinating fusion cuisine. The capital city, Noumea, is a hotbed of international restaurants but locals in need of a quick snack devour nem, New Caledonia's take on the humble spring roll. Wonton wrappers or sheets of rice paper are filled with broken rice or noodles, mince and vegetables, shaped into finger-sized rolls and deep-fried, resulting in incredibly moreish, satisfying savoury bites. Nem are best eaten hot, straight from the deep fryer, and can be bought from street vendors throughout the city.
10. Chicken Parmigiana, Melbourne, Australia.
Despite its Italian origins, Melburnians have adopted this chicken, cheese and ham classic with such gusto that it has become the standard by which locals judge a good pub. The perfect 'chicken parma' is a crisply crumbed, tender chicken fillet, offset by melted cheese and salty ham, and served with an unctuous homemade tomato sauce. True parma devotees engage in pub and parma crawls, and debating the merits (or otherwise) of what makes good parma over a 'pot' of beer is the best way to get in on the local action.
Try classic and modern parmas at Mrs Parma's on 25 Little Bourke St, Melbourne.
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[QUOTE=OneIpole; 1511260]Does all Filipino food pretty much suck? Some of it might taste OK, but holly crap is it bad for you. The restaurants here are great with really good foods, but the Filipino joints and the stuff on the street is pretty bad.
Is there anything that can be recommended to try? Anything that is kind of healthy and not full of sugar, carbs, fat and grease?[/QUOTE]Suck? It all depends on where you eat, what you eat and who your eating with.
Kinabuch Restaurant Puerto Princesa, Palawan.
Crocodile Sisig and Tuna Belly.
I enjoy the fresh fruit and vegetables that are cheap and available everywhere.
[QUOTE=OneIpole; 1511259]So I spent my first Saturday at Plan B. They have a ton of girls there. I counted 62!. I picked a tiny little tight bodied girl. She was about 4' 10 or so I guess. Super small waist and nice looking, she says she was 18.
Paid the bar fine- which was not to bad I though at P2, 600. Got here back to the room and we had a great time. Everything but Anal, no condom. I have to say I liked Plan B on P. Burgos. It had better looking girls then a lot of the places and the bar fine was the cheapest I found. The girls have really tight bodies with only a few chubby ones.
Next I think I will try Manila cafe to see how it goes. I will post me findings.[/QUOTE]Did the P2600 include sex with the girl and the cost of the room? If not, what was the total cost?
I have shied away from P Burgos because DIA / pinalove girls are so easy to land, always GFE and a lot more cost effective. Maybe I should be a little more open minded!
The scenery in the Philippines can also add flavor to a good meal.
Fresh seafood is available from locals who will cook it however you like.
I never have a problem finding good things to eat in the Philippines.
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Typical pinoy mentality:
[url]http://ph.news.yahoo.com/caps-sunglasses-banned-philippine-malls-fight-crime-101508281.html[/url]
Do they expect me to carry my Dodgers cap in my hand as I look for potential pickups inside Glorietta?
C'mon.
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker;1511496]I enjoy the fresh fruit and vegetables that are cheap and available everywhere.[/QUOTE]Now. That looks Awesome. I need to stop eating out and start cooking.
[QUOTE=Forest; 1511498]Did the P2600 include sex with the girl and the cost of the room? If not, what was the total cost?
I have shied away from P Burgos because DIA / pinalove girls are so easy to land, always GFE and a lot more cost effective. Maybe I should be a little more open minded![/QUOTE]No it sure dose not. It is only the Bar fine. On top I had to pay her 2,500. She wanted 3,000. I took her to my place so no room cost.
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker;1511503]I never have a problem finding good things to eat in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]Man, you are eating like a king! The thing in common with your pics are they all smell like fish!
[QUOTE=FineDay; 1511572]. .
[url]http://ph.news.yahoo.com/caps-sunglasses-banned-philippine-malls-fight-crime-101508281.html[/url]
Do they expect me to carry my Dodgers cap in my hand as I look for potential pickups inside Glorietta?[/QUOTE]Yes. I saw it in action today. A security guard asked a guy walking in the mall to remove his cap.
I have been banging on about the incredible delays caused by this mindless checking of people entering not only malls but everywhere else too. The guard at the door of the haberdashery shop always makes me smirk. Someone might escape with a bolt of expensive cloth.
I have just spent 8 days in KL, Malaysia and didn't see ONE security guard.
It was so refreshing to be allowed to enter and leave malls and office buildings using any door without being delayed by being herded like sheep into lines for checking, frisking etc. All of this merely delays ordinary citizens.
Is the Philippines really so much more lawless than Malaysia? (Rhetorical question folks).
It's interesting that one of my Malaysian Chinese friends said that his family will not return to Manila after just one visit. The plethora of security guards all carrying big firearms freaked out his elderly aunt and they were generally alarmed by the image it presents that Manila especially must be a dangerous place for visiting tourists.
[QUOTE=Forest;1511498]I have shied away from P Burgos because DIA / pinalove girls are so easy to land, always GFE and a lot more cost effective.[/QUOTE]How are the girls? Looks? Age? Prices?
[QUOTE=OneIpole;1511608]No it sure dose not. It is only the Bar fine. On top I had to pay her 2,500. She wanted 3,000. I took her to my place so no room cost.[/QUOTE]You mean 3000 pHP on top of the bar fine yes? As this is the norm for many in P Burgos. She would get no more than 50% of barfine so is looking top up. Now I am not a cheap Charlie and would always pays something over the barfine and if she is really nice get her number so she can pop by before / after work etc and no barfine.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1511617]Yes. I saw it in action today. A security guard asked a guy walking in the mall to remove his cap.
I have been banging on about the incredible delays caused by this mindless checking of people entering not only malls but everywhere else too. The guard at the door of the haberdashery shop always makes me smirk. Someone might escape with a bolt of expensive cloth.[/QUOTE]Same in Cebu RK. Was in the supermarket come department store that opens an hour earlier than the mall. But the guard kept everyone in the store waiting for some mind numbing reason for 10 mins after the mall opened before we could enter the mall from the department store entrance. Then with taking of caps and the endless checks plus the inane and meaningless "welcome to (name of mall here)" was another 10 minutes/
Bizarre behavior and completely stupid as the crowds were so deep there was no way security would be able to spot any criminal or terrorist.
I was in no hurry so I watched with amusement and amazement but some were shop workers who were then late for work.
I think the guards had not been given the all clear by their bosses to let us enter mall despite is being open already. As I said, bizarre.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1511617]Is the Philippines really so much more lawless than Malaysia? (Rhetorical question folks).[/QUOTE]I know it's a rhetorical question, but to the newbies I would add my observation. In malls the perimeter security has little to do with actual security, but rather act as a basic barrier to keep out those people who "don't belong". I. E. The have-nots. For hard "security", individual businesses are responsible for providing the shotgun-toting elite security based on their risk profile. Without the former, we would have the beggars pestering every restaurant patron inside Robinsons Malate. Without the former, no Mercury Drug would be safe anywhere. Hehe. Enjoy, AsianRain
[QUOTE=Asian Rain;1511641]I know it's a rhetorical question, but to the newbies I would add my observation. In malls the perimeter security has little to do with actual security, but rather act as a basic barrier to keep out those people who "don't belong". I. E. The have-nots. For hard "security", individual businesses are responsible for providing the shotgun-toting elite security based on their risk profile. Without the former, we would have the beggars pestering every restaurant patron inside Robinsons Malate. Without the former, no Mercury Drug would be safe anywhere. Hehe. Enjoy, AsianRain[/QUOTE]Yeah you're right AR with your analysis along with the fact that the provision of security is an enormous source of income nor only for the guards but for the retired officers of both Police and Military who own and operate these security agencies.
However, as I noted in my earlier post, the absence of guards patrolling everywhere in KL does stick out after becoming so accustomed to seeing them and experiencing them in Manila every way one turns.
[QUOTE=Imagemakers;1511345]The Mandarin.[/QUOTE]Thank you, sir. Never would have known about those Christmas feasts since the Mandarin isn't publicizing them on its website. Happy Jesus's birthday.
[QUOTE=Dashing Don;1511557]The putrid smell of Filipino food is the first warning. The awful appearance is next. Who needs a third?[/QUOTE]If you look carefully, the food has not been cooked Filipino style. In Ph, a lot of places cook to your taste, from real spicy Green Curry. To Indonesain Ox Tail soup.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1511617]Is the Philippines really so much more lawless than Malaysia? (Rhetorical question folks).[/QUOTE]Matter of fact, there are security guards visible in Malaysia. More for places like jewellery stores and the likes.
Now, in PH, you get shotgun toting guards, evening 7-11, now that is a good indicator of PH's lawlessness.
Don't forget you can shoot up people in the arrival area of NAIA and take time to disappear. LOL.
Compared to MY, see how many murders happen in PH and how many cases really see the light of the day.
[QUOTE=Econo Tech; 1511853]If you look carefully, the food has not been cooked Filipino style. In Ph, a lot of places cook to your taste, from real spicy Green Curry. To Indonesain Ox Tail soup.
Matter of fact, there are security guards visible in Malaysia. More for places like jewellery stores and the likes.
Now, in PH, you get shotgun toting guards, evening 7-11, now that is a good indicator of PH's lawlessness.
Don't forget you can shoot up people in the arrival area of NAIA and take time to disappear. LOL.
Compared to MY, see how many murders happen in PH and how many cases really see the light of the day.[/QUOTE]The issue is one of both quantity compared to quality. Theres very little quality in the security personel in malls. Its just random people with a uniform and sometimes a gun. Scary.
The other issue is the large numbers of security are promoted by the generals and police chiefs who own the companies. They will go to a business and say " your neighbour has armed security outside, you should have too."
I think is all about the presentation with the security. They are there to be visible and to hopefully prevent someone from trying something stupid. I don't think they have much for training and I am not sure they would actually do something. Just having them present and visible is a deterrent for would-be crooks.
I seen one security guard with a gun trying to handle a customer who was screaming at one of the waitstaff. He only tried to talk to the customer and never tried to stop him or move him out of the place. I go the feeling they don't really do much besides being visible.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1511873]The issue is one of both quantity compared to quality. Theres very little quality in the security personel in malls. Its just random people with a uniform and sometimes a gun. Scary.
The other issue is the large numbers of security are promoted by the generals and police chiefs who own the companies. They will go to a business and say " your neighbour has armed security outside, you should have too."[/QUOTE]Years ago, I met a filipina in Singapore, and while screwing her, I asked her what she was doing in SG. She said she is looking for a job as a security guard. I was a bit confused, till she said she is trained to operate shot guns, Hand guns. Etc. And is confident Singapore police will employ her.
I was so happy for having a sexy guard as my catch, and stopped it at that, didn't bother to tell her Singapore will not employ women half trained in Arms and non-Singaporeans.
[QUOTE=OneIpole; 1512306]Just having them present and visible is a deterrent for would-be crooks.
I go the feeling they don't really do much besides being visible.[/QUOTE]I think you may have taken this one step too far. More likely they are there to give the impression to law-abiding folks (and business owners?) that there is some deterrence for would-be crooks.
And you are being too hard on them. In some restaurants they actually pitch in and clear trays away when the wait staff get behind.
I've seen them in Angeles with a holster and bullets but no gun!
I grew up in Malaysia in Sabaha, until I went to do my grad school in the US and settled down in Cali. The thing is, it used to be a lot more dangerous, and there used to be a lot more poor people in Manila. The slums used to be a lot closer.
I remember one time, when we were visiting Manila. I was a teenager, and was in a bathroom at the airport. One of the bathroom attendants stuck his hand underneath the stall and was trying to hand me toilet paper. I know I can pull my own toilet paper from the roll. But the thing is, it used to be a lot more poorer.
I think the security is to keep out the poor.
CT
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1511617]Yes. I saw it in action today. A security guard asked a guy walking in the mall to remove his cap.
I have been banging on about the incredible delays caused by this mindless checking of people entering not only malls but everywhere else too. The guard at the door of the haberdashery shop always makes me smirk. Someone might escape with a bolt of expensive cloth.
I have just spent 8 days in KL, Malaysia and didn't see ONE security guard.
It was so refreshing to be allowed to enter and leave malls and office buildings using any door without being delayed by being herded like sheep into lines for checking, frisking etc. All of this merely delays ordinary citizens.
Is the Philippines really so much more lawless than Malaysia? (Rhetorical question folks).
It's interesting that one of my Malaysian Chinese friends said that his family will not return to Manila after just one visit. The plethora of security guards all carrying big firearms freaked out his elderly aunt and they were generally alarmed by the image it presents that Manila especially must be a dangerous place for visiting tourists.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Skip Kost; 1512565]I think you may have taken this one step too far. More likely they are there to give the impression to law-abiding folks (and business owners?) that there is some deterrence for would-be crooks.
And you are being too hard on them. In some restaurants they actually pitch in and clear trays away when the wait staff get behind.[/QUOTE]I don't mean it as a bad thing. I don't think they are lazy or bad people at all. Typically they are very nice. I just meant to say they don't seem (to me) to be willing to draw and stop something bad from happening- for 500p a day I wouldn't either.
I just thought they are not really "security" like stopping something, but there to act as a deterrent. Now if you are in a bar it is different, they will throw you out on your ass.
[QUOTE=Jack4765;1512571]I've seen them in Angeles with a holster and bullets but no gun![/QUOTE]LOL. I guess they throw the bullets at you really hard!
[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1512565]More likely they are there to give the impression to law-abiding folks (and business owners?) that there is some deterrence for would-be crooks. And you are being too hard on them. In some restaurants they actually pitch in and clear trays away when the wait staff get behind.[/QUOTE]I chatted to a guard today near SM Department Store in Megamall and he told me their main focus is on ensuring that staff and delivery guys do not steal goods rather than any real deterrent to crooks.
As SK says, at the Starbucks, McDo, Jollibee and other places they do often clear away trays etc to save themselves from expiring from boredom.
[QUOTE=Jack4765;1512571]I've seen them in Angeles with a holster and bullets but no gun![/QUOTE]Maybe they are good throwers.
[QUOTE=Fifty Pesos; 1513109]Apparently, he wanted a new life for the new year.
The suspect in the recent stabbing of a Korean-Japanese man in Pasay City surrendered to the San Juan police on Friday, saying he was deeply bothered by his conscience and wanted to apologize to his victim before the year ended.
[url]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/553757/stabbing-suspect-bothered-by-conscience-yields[/url][/QUOTE]FP,
Since you don't live in the country but clearly search the news sites for stories of how bad it is here how about you change your MO and find only good ones in 2014?
There are plenty of other news web sites that can help you in that task as not everything is doom and gloom. It has problems for sure but sometimes we would like some change from the bad news as we can all read that on many sites. Myself and I now other senior members follow the news here through various media and there are some good ones.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1512644]As SK says, at the Starbucks, McDo, Jollibee and other places they do often clear away trays etc to save themselves from expiring from boredom.[/QUOTE]Saw two sleepers, one each on consecutive days recenlty. Dog easy to find sleepers anytime the sun goes down just by walking down Adriatico in Malate.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1512644]I chatted to a guard today near SM Department Store in Megamall and he told me their main focus is on ensuring that staff and delivery guys do not steal goods rather than any real deterrent to crooks.
As SK says, at the Starbucks, McDo, Jollibee and other places they do often clear away trays etc to save themselves from expiring from boredom.[/QUOTE]That makes a lot of sense. I bet it becomes a boring job.
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker;1512647]Maybe they are good throwers.[/QUOTE]LOL. I was thinking the same thing.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1512644]I chatted to a guard today near SM Department Store in Megamall and he told me their main focus is on ensuring that staff and delivery guys do not steal goods rather than any real deterrent to crooks.
As SK says, at the Starbucks, McDo, Jollibee and other places they do often clear away trays etc to save themselves from expiring from boredom.[/QUOTE]I was sitting at Starbucks this morning at Robinsons mall and to my surprise the armed security guard was also clearing tables and mopping up. I could understand it, he was pretty bored.
So I pull me a pair of MBC cuties at 8am. They were both bubbly and fun. After the ditty, after they rinsed in the shower, they were laying on the bed with me while I was web browsing. They were chatting away with each other when one of them said to the other: "Tell him that guy his ****." The second girl explained in broken english about how a guy had pulled her from MBC a week prior and skipped the bang, but asked her to *** for him. The gent liked to weigh the ***, and pays accordingly. His only stipulation was that the *** must be done in front of him. The bigger the ***, the bigger the paycheck. Needless to say I was taken aback. She said she later discovered another girl in MBC who had gone with the same gent for the same thing."He see dee size of my **** and he givin' me more peso for bigger. I go back to him two more time." Why, pretty girl, pray tell, did you return two more times?"Because easy to **** and get pesos. He give me 1000 for dis much," she held her hands about 4 inches apart,"and one-five for dis much," she moved her hands to 6 inches apart. Both myself and the first girl had incredulous looks on our faces."But I have to txt him I'm coming. I'm coming from Pasay to his place. Hard to hold it. Ya. Like that."
Can we talk **** here? Jackson I'm sorry if its against the rules.
So, if you're the ***-guy, maybe its sick. Or maybe call me so I can witness one of these sessions (never say I'm a *complete* prude). I'll bring the camera. And some noseplugs. Ya. Like that.
Beauty, the eye, the beholder.
[QUOTE=Fifty Pesos;1514139]Which one is sicker[/QUOTE]Maybe someone who gets off on posting "doom and gloom" news reports because he is unsatisfied with his own life should be added to the list.
IMHO whatever consenting adults do behind closed doors is their business.
[QUOTE=Fifty Pesos;1514139]Which one is sicker ****, **** or allowing a prostitute to shove a vibrator;"implement" up your ass?[/QUOTE]The answer: Yes!
[QUOTE=Fifty Pesos;1514139]Which one is sicker ****, **** or allowing a prostitute to shove a vibrator;"implement" up your ass?[/QUOTE]**** **** by a country mile. That is thoroughly disgusting and anyone who gets off on **** ** or being **** ** by a sexual partner has to have major psychological problems IMHO. Hitler was reputed to have been into **** **** which was why his niece / girlfriend Geli Raubal committed suicide.
Tried **** **** (giving) and got nothing out of it except a tick on my bucket list. Enjoyed my one experience of prostate massage by vibrator and would probably try it again.
You ought to get out more, mate. Instead of digging through old ISG reports or trolling through online news feeds looking for items that hold The Philippines up to a bad light, have a go at working on your deep seated fears and repressions by trying something totally new and different. It would do you a world of good.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1; 1514097]The second girl explained in broken english about how a guy had pulled her from MBC a week prior and skipped the bang, but asked her to poo for him. The gent liked to weigh the poo, and pays accordingly. His only stipulation was that the poo must be done in front of him.
Beauty, the eye, the beholder.[/QUOTE]Maybe Brown-eye?
Will be in Manila in Feb. Need some dental work done, any advice on which dental office?
[QUOTE=BudLight;1514643]Will be in Manila in Feb. Need some dental work done, any advice on which dental office?[/QUOTE]I used and was quite satisfied with Green Apple Dental in Cebu. I noticed they have an office in Manila by SM Mall / Edsa. Wed site is: greenappledentalph. Com.
The Cebu dental office was very nice, clean and professional. Fees were very reasonable.
[QUOTE=BudLight;1514643]Will be in Manila in Feb. Need some dental work done, any advice on which dental office?[/QUOTE]Budlight, send you PM with a details of good dentist in Makati.
Thought that this CL ad was hilarious, particularly the bit about picking-up and dropping-off in Tondo! Nice come-on pic though. Wonder if anyone will take them up on their offer.
[QUOTE= CL Ad]hi,
We are 3 girls in tondo, curious to meet a western man for a date,
One of us or all of us,
Must pick us up and drop off in tondo.
Take us out to eat and?[/QUOTE]
One in the middle is uber cute.
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[quote=fifty pesos; 1515404]hi i normally leave my opinion out of pieces i coin but in this case i disagree with your statement. let's look at this this way; if most men where given the choice to be covered with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113][CodeWord113][/url] or be anally penetrated i am sure most would go with the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113][CodeWord113][/url].
mr(?). fifty pesos.
the purpose of isg is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women. when do you start to come with information? consider find another forum for your outpourings.
[QUOTE=Dazza Ar;1514699]Budlight, send you PM with a details of good dentist in Makati.[/QUOTE]Would you please send PM again, did not receive you last PM. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Fifty Pesos; 1515404]I obviously don't have to work hard to hold the Philippines up to a bad light. Perennial forum posts such as yours and daily news articles posted by their own press got that job well in hand.
[url]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/557025/woman-nephew-end-up-dead-after-machete-duel[/url]
[url]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/557745/bus-driver-shot-dead-in-road-rage-incident-in-pangasinan-tarlac-boundary[/url]
[url]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/467161/motorcycle-rider-shot-in-caloocan-road-rage[/url]
[url]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/545947/road-rage-lands-cop-convict-in-jail[/url]
[url]http://globalnation.inquirer.net/95179/exec-in-sex-for-flight-scandal-appeals-suspension[/url][/QUOTE]But the incidents you highlight occur all over the world and there are many, many countries which are by far more "dangerous" than the Philippines. What exactly is your agenda?
[quote=fifty pesos;1515404]let's look at this this way; if most men where given the choice to be covered with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113][CodeWord113][/url] or be anally penetrated i am sure most would go with the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113][CodeWord113][/url].[/quote]don't know what kind of strange parallel universe you inhabit but i would suggest that if you gave a bunch of guys the choice between a} having a pleasant prostate massage whilst simultaneously being blown by a babe and b) being covered in shit, yours would be the only voice clamouring for the brown. weird.
[quote=fifty pesos;1515404]and your strange admiration for ladyboys.[/quote]really? news to me. kindly furnish this extraordinary statement with examples.
[quote=fifty pesos;1515404]i obviously don't have to work hard to hold the philippines up to a bad light. perennial forum posts such as yours and daily news articles posted by their own press got that job well in hand.[/quote]i just try to have good healthy harmless fun with nobody hurt which i imagine is the objective of the majority of the members here except for the odd saddo like you who get their fun by hanging out on forums such as this with the sole aim of trying to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on everyone elses fireworks (maybe an apt metaphor perhaps in view of your recent posts).
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1515578]I just try to have good healthy harmless fun with nobody hurt which I imagine is the objective of the majority of the members here except for the odd saddo like you who get their fun by hanging out on forums such as this with the sole aim of trying to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on everyone elses fireworks (maybe an apt metaphor perhaps in view of your recent posts).[/QUOTE]Fifty Shades of Shit?
[QUOTE=BudLight;1515527]Would you please send PM again, did not receive you last PM. Thanks![/QUOTE]You cannot receive or send PMs until you pay your membership Bud.
That's why you didn't get it.
Lets change the topic from being shit on to anything!
I get the shakes when I even think about it.
Anybody hit the new Insomnia bar yet. I forget the name of it. I am going to check it out Friday night after drinking at Cowboys. I want to see how the music and the girls are there.
I do like that bgyx or whatever place, but the bitches there seem a bit stuck up.
Insomnia in Malate is a club / disco tech that is popular with Koreans. The ladies that frequent Insomnia and Malate in general are not 'stuck up' they are simply there to pick up Koreans. Koreans are their first choice (especially the more attractive of the bunch) westerners being a distant second.
[QUOTE=OneIpole; 1515679]Lets change the topic from being shit on to anything!
I get the shakes when I even think about it.
A[/QUOTE]Seems we've stirred the sh*t-storm. I thought it unique when I posted it a few days ago. However, based on the number of PM's that I received within 24 hours (and you dudes have some [B][I]strange[/I][/B] Stories regarding it) , I see its larger than I thought and lurking in the background. Underneath. Hidden in the dark.
Sorry OIP, stop shaking.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1; 1515922]Seems we've stirred the sh*t-storm. I thought it unique when I posted it a few days ago. However, based on the number of PM's that I received within 24 hours (and you dudes have some [B][I]strange[/I][/B] Stories regarding it) , I see its larger than I thought and lurking in the background. Underneath. Hidden in the dark.
Sorry OIP, stop shaking.[/QUOTE]Hahahaa. I am glad we can move to a different topic.
Insomnia and bbxgzy or what ever. Insomnia was ok but is really young and not that many hot girls. I pulled a few from there but it is aimed more at kids. You are right about the Little Korean boys. I guess they do a good job at spending daddy's money. Anyways they are little boys mostly (explains the young girls there). I have not really seen much for men inside the place. Especially not Korean men- It is a place for their kids. I will check out the new Insomina (whatever its called) Friday. But typically I like Republic 1,000 times better than anywhere else.
The other club around the circle is nicer on the inside and has much better looking women. This place is really the Korean hangout. Many Koreans. Men and women. I am just to old for the place, but I have had some fun times there. Kind of funny but I have meat some cool Chinese guys there who I ended up drinking with and have great time. I have got some Pinas out of there, but no luck with the Korean girls. They stick to the Korean boys.
[QUOTE=OneIpole; 1515679]Anybody hit the new Insomnia bar yet. I forget the name of it. I am going to check it out Friday night after drinking at Cowboys. I want to see how the music and the girls are there.
I do like that bgyx or whatever place, but the bitches there seem a bit stuck up.[/QUOTE]Yes, reports on it posted on 22 Dec in this Manila thread.
The other place is Zzyzx.
[QUOTE=Hutsori; 1515968]Yes, reports on it posted on 22 Dec in this Manila thread.
The other place is Zzyzx.[/QUOTE]I looked again, but could not find any report on it. I only see what I seen last time. Someone saying Insomnia is closed and the new place is open. Have you been inside?
Thank you for all the info on dentist, you guys are awesome! I 'll be in Manila beginning of Feb, then Ho Chi Minh for two weeks, back to Angeles city for another two weeks. If anyone want to meet up for a drink please send me a PM.
How is that pronounced, please? It must be a lot of fun to go there by taxi.
Clubber to taxi driver 'My good fellow, take me immediately to Zzyzx'
Taxi driver to clubber 'Cannot sir, you are drunk. Walk! You need the fresh air. '
Having attacked this forum (and others) for months using Calipro and Paisadash (another forum but same postingstyle) as usernames for months prior to his arrival, he suddenly went silent arriving into phils. I am a bit worried for my upcoming trip in a week time all the ladies are occupied standing in waiting line to become one of his many freebies?
Well I take my chances and divert, before hitting Makati, into Malate hoping there will be some leftovers (girls) around after Calipros escapades in the area. I will try to make it into the relatively new club with the difficult name as well. But I better walk as I will be drunk as a sailor most of the time so taxi will be from difficult to hopeless.
[QUOTE=Skogis; 1516261]Having attacked this forum (and others) for months using Calipro and Paisadash (another forum but same postingstyle) as usernames for months prior to his arrival, he suddenly went silent arriving into phils. I am a bit worried for my upcoming trip in a week time all the ladies are occupied standing in waiting line to become one of his many freebies?
Well I take my chances and divert, before hitting Makati, into Malate hoping there will be some leftovers (girls) around after Calipros escapades in the area. I will try to make it into the relatively new club with the difficult name as well. But I better walk as I will be drunk as a sailor most of the time so taxi will be from difficult to hopeless.[/QUOTE]No need to worry Skogis as I was there very recently and there are plenty og girls around Havana Café very full by the way. But I was already taken and with 2 other ISG members). Remember he said he was a cheap charlie and had a very limited budget so the ladies you like are way above the class / quality he can attract by living in a pension and paying beer money only. FF said he was posting on another forum so I must take a look. Maybe he has run out of cash as he did intend to hit the high end clubs where a coke would cost more than his daily room budget. So he may have gone home to Korea (where he said he was working).
Seems he also went silent on the other forum. Here he is Paisadash (or was I don't know). Who knows what he calls himself these days.
Well hopefully Calipro has left me a few freebies.
In Manila next week and the diary that I've tried to keep clean and clear is full, with ladies who want to dance.
However theres two who are particularly insistent to meet me shortly after my arrival. I queried them on this and both state that they know I will be meeting many girls (moi?) and want to be the first. To both get me at my best and freshest.
Can't fault that logic. Looks like it will be another 7 in 4 days extravangaza.
[QUOTE=OneIpole;1515972]I looked again, but could not find any report on it. I only see what I seen last time. Someone saying Insomnia is closed and the new place is open. Have you been inside?[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1007-Manila&p=1510560&viewfull=1#post1510560[/url]
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Twice at Exclusiv. First time from 130 am til 4 and it was hopping. Second time was New Year's Eve at 430am and it was dying. It's massive, even larger than Zzyzx. Pretty much the same types that you'd see at Insomnia or Zzyzx, i.e. mostly Korean and Chinese males in their 20s (mostly) and early 30s (some). Some Korean girls with their boyfriends. Many well dressed (clubbing attire) , attractive Pinay working girls who are more interested in the Asian customers. Each time I was there I brought a dating site girl. The only reason I visit these two clubs is because I was in the neighourhood, there's no cover charge, and I can step out to the convenience store or a cheaper bar to grab a drink. There's no compelling reason to go there if you're far away, say in Makati or QC. I think a honkey will enjoy the Makati clubs or Republic more.
If you're in the area and like a beer garden with quite good live music go to Bocobo Street about 150 metres from Robinson's Pedro Gil entrance. I think the name is Bellagio Square. Walking from Robinson's it's on your left - you'll hear the music before you see the place. It's a 2 or 3 floor building with numerous small bars and restos. The beer garden and the stage are next to the street. Almost all Filipino customers, which is cool with me. The stage had a "Bedrock" banner, but this is not the "Bedrock" bar on Adriatico St near Remedios. Good-sized pitchers of cocktails at approx. p600 and shisha at p300.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1516186]How is that pronounced, please? It must be a lot of fun to go there by taxi.
Clubber to taxi driver 'My good fellow, take me immediately to Zzyzx'
Taxi driver to clubber 'Cannot sir, you are drunk. Walk! You need the fresh air. '[/QUOTE]LOL. That is the stupidest name for a club, nobody can say it! Maybe it is a Korean thing to have a name like that. I can never get it right so I tell them take me to Insomnia, then it around the corner from there.
[QUOTE=Hutsori; 1516426][url]Http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1007-Manila&p=1510560&viewfull=1#post1510560[/url]
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Twice at Exclusiv. First time from 130 am til 4 and it was hopping. Second time was New Year's Eve at 430am and it was dying. It's massive, even larger than Zzyzx. Pretty much the same types that you'd see at Insomnia or Zzyzx, I. E. Mostly Korean and Chinese males in their 20s (mostly) and early 30s (some). Some Korean girls with their boyfriends. Many well dressed (clubbing attire) , attractive Pinay working girls who are more interested in the Asian customers. Each time I was there I brought a dating site girl. The only reason I visit these two clubs is because I was in the neighourhood, there's no cover charge, and I can step out to the convenience store or a cheaper bar to grab a drink. There's no compelling reason to go there if you're far away, say in Makati or QC. I think a honkey will enjoy the Makati clubs or Republic more.
If you're in the area and like a beer garden with quite good live music go to Bocobo Street about 150 metres from Robinson's Pedro Gil entrance. I think the name is Bellagio Square. Walking from Robinson's it's on your left. You'll hear the music before you see the place. It's a 2 or 3 floor building with numerous small bars and restos. The beer garden and the stage are next to the street. Almost all Filipino customers, which is cool with me. The stage had a "Bedrock" banner, but this is not the "Bedrock" bar on Adriatico St near Remedios. Good-sized pitchers of cocktails at approx. P600 and shisha at p300.[/QUOTE]That's a good report. It sounds like a hot spot for dancing and having fun. Maybe it will become my spot to take girls out to on date night.
I will be checking out Exclusive soon.
Trying to work out my schedule for forthcoming Manila trip and had an open slot. Lo and behold up pops a lady 38, ok photos, and says she would like some fun. Turns out she works near where I will be so its all to the good. Sends me phone number and all is happily arranged.
But wait. She's a Filipina heading off for fun with me. So of course she can't resist, she just has to tell me." you are the first foreigner I go with ".
If I had one peso for every time I've heard that immortal line. Of course, we guys are duty bound to respond " Yes honey, you will be the first Filipina I will go with too (at 5pm on that particular day)
[QUOTE=OneIpole; 1516528]That's a good report. It sounds like a hot spot for dancing and having fun. Maybe it will become my spot to take girls out to on date night.
I will be checking out Exclusive soon.[/QUOTE]Bellagio Square offers both inside and outside drinks and food. Yes, mostly filipinos if not all. I've been there perhaps 10 times and never encountered a problem with them. Where I have a problem is that as soon as you set foot on the square, various hawkers try to get you to go to the place they work for. They will push and grab you to get to their employer's place. As I always just go to one place there, we go in at a fast pace and walk through the hawkers. If you set foot on the premises and start looking around, you're fair game. BTW not a bad venue but don't go there looking for P4P. You'll leave very disappointed.
Lastly if you want Greek food, give Hellas Restaurant a big pass. Cima on 2nd floor of Robinsons is far superior.
[QUOTE=Slippery; 1516873]Bellagio Square offers both inside and outside drinks and food. Yes, mostly filipinos if not all. I've been there perhaps 10 times and never encountered a problem with them. Where I have a problem is that as soon as you set foot on the square, various hawkers try to get you to go to the place they work for. They will push and grab you to get to their employer's place. As I always just go to one place there, we go in at a fast pace and walk through the hawkers. If you set foot on the premises and start looking around, you're fair game. BTW not a bad venue but don't go there looking for P4P. You'll leave very disappointed.
Lastly if you want Greek food, give Hellas Restaurant a big pass. Cima on 2nd floor of Robinsons is far superior.[/QUOTE]That is one thing that just drives me nuts. All the fake Viagra, laser pens. Ugly watches and so on. I kind of fell insulted when I get approached with that crap, its like am I that fucking stupid looking?
I really don't like the Hawkers here.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1516842]Trying to work out my schedule for forthcoming Manila trip and had an open slot. Lo and behold up pops a lady 38, ok photos, and says she would like some fun. Turns out she works near where I will be so its all to the good. Sends me phone number and all is happily arranged.
But wait. She's a Filipina heading off for fun with me. So of course she can't resist, she just has to tell me." you are the first foreigner I go with ".
If I had one peso for every time I've heard that immortal line. Of course, we guys are duty bound to respond " Yes honey, you will be the first Filipina I will go with too (at 5pm on that particular day) [/QUOTE]Heard this frase as well from one girl I did whatsapp here the other day. She obviously did not remember me and her banging away approx one year ago. Well I give her some slack as I probably caught her off guard contacting her through Whatsapp. When I did fill her in she went silent on me, hehe. Lauged my ass of from this one.
Today is the Feast of the Black Nazarene. I'm unsure of its historical roots, but it's a day on which literally more than a million semi-frenzied Filipinos drag a dark wooden statue of Jesus through the streets, prostrating themselves, working themselves into ecstatic throes of religiosity and attempting to achieve the epitome of fervor by touching the statue. It's still another cultural phenomenon that I fail to understand. The well known Sociologist Randy David wrote an excellent article on the practice in his Inquirer column today, and I attach the link, [url]http://opinion.inquirer.net/column/public-lives[/url] For those who want to read about this description of what David calls "infantile religiosity."
GE
I'm staying 10 days here in Manila Ermita close to Robinson.
Do you know the KTV in this area with the best nice girls?
Price is not a problem if I feel the club don't try to rip off.
I think its the best way to lose my money here instead of casino where I lost 5k in one week.
[QUOTE=OneIpole;1516527]LOL. That is the stupidest name for a club, nobody can say it![/QUOTE]Having trouble pronouncing "Zzyzx", are ya? C'mon, m8, do so phonetically."Ziz zix".
[QUOTE=OneIpole;1516527]Maybe it is a Korean thing to have a name like that.[/QUOTE]That I highly doubt; z is one of several consonants the Koreans don't have in their language. "I bisit the joo to see da pamous jebla."[QUOTE=OneIpole;1516527]I can never get it right so I tell them take me to Insomnia, then it around the corner from there.[/QUOTE] If you read the FRs you'll see often enough many drivers don't know where many places are aside from the malls and the well-known hotels. Frequently they don't know the streets either, especially the side streets. If you've hailed a ca away from your destination, say in Makati going to Insomnia, it's quite likely he'll have no idea where it is. I always check google maps.
[QUOTE=OneIpole; 1517088]That is one thing that just drives me nuts. All the fake Viagra, laser pens. Ugly watches and so on. I kind of fell insulted when I get approached with that crap, its like am I that fucking stupid looking?
I really don't like the Hawkers here.[/QUOTE]At Bellagio Square those type of hawkers aren't there.
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1517361]At Bellagio Square those type of hawkers aren't there.[/QUOTE]None last week. They might try to get you to sit at a table and have food / drink. Plenty of hawkers on the street though.
[QUOTE=Waioux; 1517358]I'm staying 10 days here in Manila Ermita close to Robinson.
Do you know the KTV in this area with the best nice girls?
Price is not a problem if I feel the club don't try to rip off.
I think its the best way to lose my money here instead of casino where I lost 5k in one week.[/QUOTE]The area around Sogo Hotel on Mabini Street has at least 5 within a 1 minute walk of Sogo. Never been in a single one of them though. From Robinsons, just tell the taxi driver you want to Sogo on Mabini. Its about a 60 peso ride. Michilen Club is next door to Sogo on the left as you look at Sogo. Across the street by Seven Eleven are several others.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1517488]None last week. They might try to get you to sit at a table and have food / drink. Plenty of hawkers on the street though.[/QUOTE]Haven't been there in about a month. Maybe they cleaned up the greeters. They were pretty annoying.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1516186]How is that pronounced, please? It must be a lot of fun to go there by taxi.
Clubber to taxi driver 'My good fellow, take me immediately to Zzyzx'
Taxi driver to clubber 'Cannot sir, you are drunk. Walk! You need the fresh air. '[/QUOTE]The staff there pronounce it "seasick".
[QUOTE=OneIpole; 1516528]That's a good report. It sounds like a hot spot for dancing and having fun. Maybe it will become my spot to take girls out to on date night.
I will be checking out Exclusive soon.[/QUOTE]I have been to insomnia and in the general area there mostly with chatmates / short-term gfs from DIA. Felt very uncomfortable, discriminated against and on one occasion had a guy try to pick a fight with me. On another, a ladyboy was bothering my date. I would stay away from those clubs if you are not Korean / Chinese. Much better time and luck if you are single in Republic, Palladium, and some of the other clubs in other parts of Manila.
Just my two cents.
Makes me glad I've never wandered into any of those places. I'll just continue to frequent my little holes in the walls.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1517493]Haven't been there in about a month. Maybe they cleaned up the greeters. They were pretty annoying.[/QUOTE]The greeters are certainly there. You'll be annoyed for 30 to 60 seconds until you find a table, but once you're seated there's no hassle from hawkers like I experience elsewhere. All in all I find the waitstaff there much more attentive, in the desired way, than at other places.
I should have mentioned that the live music is not a nightly occurrence. Certainly it's there on Thur, Fri and Sat.
[QUOTE=Waioux; 1517358]I'm staying 10 days here in Manila Ermita close to Robinson.
Do you know the KTV in this area with the best nice girls?
Price is not a problem if I feel the club don't try to rip off.
I think its the best way to lose my money here instead of casino where I lost 5k in one week.[/QUOTE]One thing you won't have a problem finding is a KTV in Malate and Ermita. They mostly cater to the the East Asian customer. How they typically work is a customer pays from p300 to p500 for 60-90 minutes of all you can drink (I have seen it as cheap as p100), often beer, soju, and cheap spirits. You then pay p300 or so for a lady drink - I'm sure they are quite thirsty. Are the girls available to take out? I don't know. A bar I regularly drink at is across the street from two very large KTVs and I've never seen a customer leave with one. Once I saw a half dozen of them leave the place long before that 3am closing time and pile into a mini van.
Recently started posting my past adventures accross the globe and I want to post my short stay in Manila a couple of years ago. I was only there for one night, so I had to make the most of it and by RTFF I narrowed down my best and easiest way to get what I wanted in the shortest amount time, which was to go to the LA Cafe (manila cafe I think it was called or maybe it was already called LA Cafe, cannot remember). Walked in to the Bar relatively early in the night and was amazed at the amount of girls on the ground floor, I proceed to make my way throught the crowd (It was early in the night and I was one of the few mongers there) , and made it upstairs. There I ordered a beer and a nice slim lady hustled on over. She was very open, and easy going, so we did not discuss price before I agreed to go back with her (her mistake). We drove accross town in a taxi, and what I remember was odd that she was concerned we might get stopped by the police. Ironic with prostitution being so prevelant (or maybe I just misremember).
Once we got back to the hotel, we went to the bar first and chatted and had some vodka shots and had some fun. We made it up to the hotel room and proceeded to get down to business and her giving me a great BBBJ. She then wanted me to fuck her, so I said ok but she did not have a condom. (So I told her should have to continue sucking cock. As she was diligently doing this I started fingering her ass and asked if she took in the the ass, by which she said yes.
It was too much temptation for me to hold back on and despite my own clear policy of always wearing protection without exception, I caved in and proceeded to bang her ass without condom with deep penetration (poor girl). Great experience and I kept looking down to get a good view. All she said when she looked back at me was "Yes darling, your cock is in my ass" as she thought I was checking to see if it was in her pussy or ass. Well that got my load about to shoot, so I grabbed her hair and stuck my dick in my mouth and made her take probably the strongest ejaculation I have had in my life and I am sure she had to swallow some of it. ATM off my bucket list!
Next morning she did the compulsary BBBJ with CIM again before she left.
Girl 7/10.
Service 10/10 AWO and ATM with swallow!
WIR: Heck yea.
Damage: I paid her at that time what was being quoted on ISG to her chagrin and told her so.
The next several years while I kept remembering this experience, I was concerned about STDs from this encounter, and until I was able to get tested I had some nervous times thinking about it. Well needless to say, I dodged a big bullet, as everything turned up ok. But for me that is only once that I will do this with a pro, so I guess the odds were in my favor
[QUOTE=OneIpole;1516527]LOL. That is the stupidest name for a club, nobody can say it! Maybe it is a Korean thing to have a name like that. I can never get it right so I tell them take me to Insomnia, then it around the corner from there.[/QUOTE]When you drive from Los Angeles to Las Vegas, there is an exit called Zzyzx in the middle of the desert. Probably the club name is from this or just a coincidence. Fact that we are talking about, is proof that, a strange name sometimes is good, as we don't forget it.
Planning to stop in the Philippines (first visit) for a week before heading to Thailand (second time there). Thinking about splitting the week between Manila and Angeles City. Can anyone give me the lowdown on Manila Courtesans escort agency?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Solenoid;1519149]We drove accross town in a taxi, and what I remember was odd that she was concerned we might get stopped by the police. Ironic with prostitution being so prevelant (or maybe I just misremember).[/QUOTE]You probably remember correctly. In the past there have been reports of police (and maybe fake police) shaking down Westerners who left LA Cafe (now MBC) with p4ps. One woman I knew well told me an account in which a police cruiser tailed a taxi transporting her and a German customer from LAC toward a hotel along Roxas Boulevard, and eventually pulled them over. The police wanted to put their hands in the man's pockets. Fearing they might plant drugs, he instead pulled his own pockets open to show that he had nothing to hide. At that point they took his wallet. They advised him that prostitution was illegal, although he and she had not yet enacted any prostitution. They took the wallet out of sight in behind the taxi, and when they returned many thousands of pesos were missing. They left him little more than he would need to pay the taxi fare. They could not ascertain whether the taxi driver was collaborating with the police.
Others have alluded to similar incidents in which cab drivers are in cahoots with the police, and some have suggested that the police are in fact bogus. It is not surprising that the p4p you took from LAC had heard these stories.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1519336]Others have alluded to similar incidents in which cab drivers are in cahoots with the police, and some have suggested that the police are in fact bogus. It is not surprising that the p4p you took from LAC had heard these stories.[/QUOTE]That's a long time ago SK. The police are more refined nowadays.
Many of those stories about the old LAC have now become urban legends. The original scam with LAC was more to do with under-age girls than with prostitution.
Don't get too scared by SK's story guys, but just in case, ALWAYS take a moving taxi from further along MH del Pilar when exiting MBC.
NEVER take one of the "stand-bys" waiting at the curb.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1519354]That's a long time ago SK.[/QUOTE]Yes, about five years ago, and I was replying to Solenoid's story from several years ago. That's why I cast the story in the past. I have not been to MBC in about two years and haven't taken a woman out of there for a couple years prior to that. I have no doubt there are many related urban legends and have no reason to doubt things have gotten better. I wonder if some readers might infer that you think the account I provided is also an urban legend. May I assume that is not what you meant to imply? The woman in this story was about 30 at the time.
The new head of the Bureau of Immigration is making lots of changes.
He is trying to stamp out corruption in the agency (good luck with that but I hope he succeeds)
His latest target is in the wider community: Kotong cops.
[url]http://immigration.gov.ph/index.php/news/press-release[/url]
"Kotong" is a term used for police who extract money from the public under false pretences.
It is interesting to read that there has been at least one robbery PER DAY reported in the Ermita area in the past "several months" (I am surprised 50P wasn't on to that bit of news)
If your ever in Manila or BKK, you may wish to take the youtube below as sound advice.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91MfdqM3gaQ[/url]
Diverted into Malate for a couple of days and so far so good. There are some folks reacting on my mongeringstyle, especially in the Bangkok thread, but lets say to me everything from upscale to lowscale mongering makes out a great balance in my life. I am happy with every twist there is to mongering and will explore all aspects of it. Alltough I have found out Bargirls, gogo and the barfine system realy is not my cup of tea as from some reason I find it turn offish to have the pricediscussions upfront. I simply never do that. The Malate stay is a nice way getting in touch with more basic mongering and I give it all in for P4P girls. Atleast that was my motivation to start with..
Arrived at Hyatt, threw my bags inside the room, had a shit and ran to Robinson to make a smooth mall pickup. There were some girls standing outside the mall (Starbuck outside area) and there were a few girls inside just hanging also around starbuck / escalator area. I picked up Joy. 160, 24, a slim cutie and she told me good I came as she soon was heading for MBC. Well no reason for making this difficult as that would have been my second plan if nothing to be found in The mall.
We did have a nice session (from where I stand, mostly behind her) and she did surprise me by giving away her ass to me as well. As usual I was the first one entering her ass she told me (ironic I guess). I did put some rubber on for the ass entering. We did 2 sessions in about 60 minutes. Hyatt very gf and they did not even ask for anything on our arrival but when she departed they did call me just to check (I find that comforting). My donation to her was 2K and some change.
Just an open question in the middle of my FR. Are the pinays more willing to give away their asses these days? I find it to happen more and more often also in Manila (I have been spoiled in Bangkok by mostly hook up with girls willing to share their ass with me for a few years, don't ask me why, it just happens)? Anyone else having the same experience or thoughts?
Then I had a 15 minutes late lunchbreak before starting to feel horny again. I put on some MBC clothing (flipflops and shorts) , walked the seedy streets so I choosed to interupt the traffic by walking in the road to avoid the beggars and went inside MBC a few min later. Not surprised at all the first girl I saw was Joy (I guess she changed her mind about finishing her P4P shift, hehe). I just helloed her and no scene whatsoever. She left shortly after. I browsed the premisis for like 5 minutes before hitting a girl sitting down at the pool table area. She was cheering at her friend playing pool against another, I presume, mongerer. She agreed to come with me and we walked away. She walked outside with me. I have read here the girls often like to arrange so the customer walks first and she comes after if ahe did not contribute MBC with buying a drink or whatever. I don't know as we walked outside beeing the happy couple. Approx 10 minutes was all it took before we left.
Her name was Keith. 165, slim (no jollibee fat) , flatchested (after bra came off). Beeing flatchested did not influate the session back at Hyatt one bit. I made a point out of this fake bra of hers and she did put in some realy good effort sessionswice. The girls obviously work for their donationmoney and that is good. After realy banging her for 30 minutes or so bloodstream started. She was surprised and my cock bloody (menstruation arrived 2 days early). Well, bedsheets and my johnson allready bloody we just continued until ejac on her ass. She did put in some hard work, donated 2. 5K even no A+ service (did not even ask allthough that is a good replacement with girls menstruating). Roomservice cleaned up and everyone was happy.
Took a powernap and multitexted some earlier datingsitescontacts of which 2 replied they were available. I did not remember so much about them as prior to this trip I quit datingsites as I went mental due to lack of ability to write a normal sentence seemingly gramaticaly correct. I just trusted my instinct and thought probably there was a reason for me putting them into my phone "contact" program. At 9 pm I met up with Eleyna at TGI Fridays for food and drinks. Around 10 (closing time) we went back to Hyatt for some banging. Eleyna. 34, 150, realy smallish, was a nice catch. Crazy as they can be but in a good way, LOL. We banged so hard and her beeing very tight, I was seriously afraid my cock would break. Had to take control over the session and from behind is a good way to be in charge. Took a while before splatting some blanco on her (not much whiteness left in my sperm) but it was a food session. I put on her my repeat list and she is all into A+ service as well but she told me "next time" as in maby motivation for me to meet her another time (or just BS). I put 3 K in her purse, if she found them yet I don't know but no hazzle for money on her part. She seemed to have a nice life and happy too.
ZZYXZ; jetlegged and not able to sleep I put on some clubbing outfits and taxied to this nightclub. Yes there are a lot of koreans here, are they unapproachable? No. Arrived around 3am, management got me seated on a table close to the dancingfloor. Jesus there a lot of nice female gems from Korea. Tall too. Realy stylish girls with sense of luxury. It seemed I was the only one beeing there alone as my impression was mostly people belonged to some group arrangements or whatever. Feeling a bit lonely soon changed into feeling of commitment and seriously crush as I just put my eyes into a tall korean girl doing her dance moves at the floor. As I know koreans enjoy spending money I did not want to stand out as a cheapy so I ordered a bottle of Absoulte, extras and menues from 1 to 5 incl 12 SML.(food kept coming for a few hours). Everyone knows that is to much for a single guy to finish. Korean girls also like free booze (they are not so far from their western counterparts) and foods. The girl I was eyeballing was available but after initial intro a few of her friends came over. Except one they were all female so in that way my ordering was not misplaced at all. The tall one, Kenu (or something close to this) did have good english ability as she (according to her) worked in a korean company with a lot of USA connections here in Manila and also did spend some time in USA as well. I give her 170cm, slim. 28, and extremely pretty(9). I did my ground work realy well creating this good chemistry beeing jolly, friendly and good crazy person. While finishing up and bills paid(approx 12k), I took an unormal twist and went back to her place. This girl is a keeper. Strangly I find it hard to describe girls like this as I have gf back home(not korean but half pinay/norwegian). Around such beauty it is easy to forget about the hardcore mongering program(well i do like korean girls and their looks). She lived close to Global City in a nice condo paid by her company. Down to business I noticed she was somewhat reluctant to remove her top. Later I found out she was shy as she just put in some silicon to inflate her tetas. The armpitsscars were fresh. I don't mind a girl taking care of her self to look the best for us punters. To me silikon adjustments only add excitement to sessions. She gave away her pussy and me pounding away. While pounding I experienced a lockdown and mr Johnson went into hiding mood. To cope with this I went into bathroom and popped one pk of kamagra gel. Licked her while waiting my willy to come back into strong mood again. She was in a way flooding her bed sheets. I have fucked my fair share of females out there but except the obviously strong squirters out there she was more like a river of pussy juices flooding from her twat. I have to rethink my Manila stay by now and probably I do a datingprogram with her (not sure). A very new and funny twist as this chick was obviously well off she did donate 500piso to me as I was out of cash and she could not describe to me the closest ATM as I had to get home. Arrived back to Hyatt around 8pm Wednesday.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1519986]I am happy with every twist there is to mongering and will explore all aspects of it.[/QUOTE]As always an enjoyable, joie de vivre FR from skogis. Certainly my favourite commentator here.
Great report, man.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1519986]threw my bags inside the room, [b]had a shit. [/b][/QUOTE]Just wondering, is it compulsory these days to write the reports that precise and comprehensive? Hmmmm, guess I need to overhaul my reporting style. Hehe, just kidding, no offence mate!
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1520118]As always an enjoyable, joie de vivre FR from skogis. Certainly my favourite commentator here.[/QUOTE]I have normaly a seemingly good way around women but this chickas was probably a tad above my targetarea (I have lived a few years in Colombia and Venezuela and a few of them look mighty good, Caracas beeing my favorite) , but 15 minutes ago she did call me and asked for a dating on Friday. I am such a maniac (I give one pic from her) but I can realy not do this girl once more as I will fall in love. I cut her off.
Now it is back to more familiar area around Glorietta and Greenbelt, I gave it all in for the Malate part and tried my best to stay and do as mongeres do (even wore shorts and flipflops in mbc, hehe). Well I guess it comes with the territory (outfitwice). I have one earlier Pinalovecontact sleeping in my bed a few meeters from my highwifi place is located. OMG this will end badly, I fucked her multiple times today but I think she is tired. Thank you for nice comment Hut.
[QUOTE=Ekspat; 1520125]Great report, man.
Just wondering, is it compulsory these days to write the reports that precise and comprehensive? Hmmmm, guess I need to overhaul my reporting style. Hehe, just kidding, no offence mate![/QUOTE]Haha ok this one is on me, sorry.
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1520118]As always an enjoyable, joie de vivre FR from skogis. Certainly my favourite commentator here.[/QUOTE]Agree with Huts. A very detailed and fun post.
Obviously Skog has plenty of cash to splash so good luck to him, but the general base rate for MBC is 1500 php with a 500 php bonus for good service so he was close to the mark. 3000 php means extra special.
BTW Skogis: what's the latest on the filipina who is having the baby that you supported through her initial health checks? Maybe I missed updates but what's happening there?
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1520182]Agree with Huts. A very detailed and fun post.
Obviously Skog has plenty of cash to splash so good luck to him, but the general base rate for MBC is 1500 php with a 500 php bonus for good service so he was close to the mark. 3000 php means extra special.
BTW Skogis: what's the latest on the filipina who is having the baby that you supported through her initial health checks? Maybe I missed updates but what's happening there?[/QUOTE]Ms Quezon city and baby are fine (a girl, ugly when borned but after a few weeks looking like her mother with this twist of vikingblood in her, hehe). I have moved her and baby into Makati, spending a small fortune on an apartment close to greenbelt with nanny service, so mother can work.
Did not elaborate it further as it somewhat was a tad to much babytalk not suitable in a sexforum, hehe. I came to my senses. Funny part; my domestic gf soon gives birth as well. So now I made my contribution to the world (they are very unknowingly from eachother, hehe). Now it is just for me go to medic to snitch it off so my sperm is useless.
[QUOTE=Skogis; 1520201]Did not elaborate it further as it somewhat was a tad to much babytalk not suitable in a sexforum, hehe.
Funny part; my domestic gf soon gives birth as well. So now I made my contribution to the world (they are very unknowingly from eachother, hehe).[/QUOTE]It's going to be interesting if either anak decides they want to visit their half-sister or half-brother (that's if ever they learn about each other but probably they won't as they live far apart)
Fair enough to reduce the babytalk but I suspect there are some silent readers here who may also have secret offspring and so may be interested in your situation.
Not me I hasten to add. I was snipped in 1990 so I have been shooting blanks for the past 24 years.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1520216]It's going to be interesting if either anak decides they want to visit their half-sister or half-brother (that's if ever they learn about each other but probably they won't as they live far apart)
Fair enough to reduce the babytalk but I suspect there are some silent readers here who may also have secret offspring and so may be interested in your situation.
Not me I hasten to add. I was snipped in 1990 so I have been shooting blanks for the past 24 years.[/QUOTE]Hehe well my initial plan is as follows; keep both mothers and children away (as far away as possible) atleast as long as the phil borned one is young. I will take good care of her and mother. I have by the way enlighted mother I have a pregnant gf back home and it was an ok reaction (just had to fight off some minor knifeattacks, and plate throwings).
Well well baby was as ugly as babies can be (I got more or less a skyped related birth with all it pros and cons, sadly I could not be present at the moment as it happened so fast with very few signs prior to the birth). St Lukes is a fabulous hospital, so for anyone dealing with simular situation I give thumbs up and it is money worth for exellent treatment. The pinay baby is my firstborned child so it is a special feeling (I feel actually allready needs to protect her from guys like me, hehe). Well she will not be able to know about sexwork, I will see to that and give her good life (better than phil babies in general). I have allready spoken to the mother and she is not not reluctant me bringing the baby to norway. But ofcourse then I need a lot of groundwork and be honest ro my gf as well. Well we have some years ro figure things out. As far as I am concerned now it is populare with tetas (simulare to my likings) , screaming and shitting. I have allready changed one diper.
Cost for excelllent followup for mother in st Lukes was approx 350000k, I did also join in between mongering, and while at home they gave live coverage through internet (ultrasound, checkups and so on). I have paid upfront so mother just come and go as she like. At one stage I was doubting the hole situation and thought maby she was a exploiter taking advantage of me beeing fairly well heeled. I put her under survaillance by renting two cops making a nicly addition to their monthly salary. They did not find anything out of order and they even got one girl they knew to talk to, back then, ms preggy, as in casual conversation. She told upfront she was pregnant with a norwegian guy (comforting). When the baby was born it was obvious it had some viking genetics in her.
My problem is I don't feel any connection to the mother. I am proud of her giving birth to this by now lovely child (started ugly) , she was a big one 4, 5kg (I was 4, 950kg) so lets say it runs in the "family". I have a new girl coming soon but this time it is my gf from origin so this baby I can show to proud grandparents? The manila one, hm, I figure something out. My dad beeing an old aviator knows his way around mongering so he will understand (as I probably have some siblings spread around the world without my knowledge). Well enough babytalk, just took RK invitation.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1520294]When the baby was born it was obvious it had some viking genetics in her.[/QUOTE]Pinay / Viking mix. How interesting. Would that be a Piking, I muse? Imagine that. Blonde hair, brown skin. In 18 years time she will be fighting the guys off with a stick.
She might even look a little bit like this sweetie. Yummy, yummy.
[QUOTE=ZZYXZ; jetlegged and not able to sleep I put on some clubbing outfits and taxied to this nightclub. Yes there are a lot of koreans here, are they unapproachable? No. Arrived around 3am, management got me seated on a table close to the dancingfloor. Jesus there a lot of nice female gems from Korea. Tall too. Realy stylish girls with sense of luxury. It seemed I was the only one beeing there alone as my impression was mostly people belonged to some group arrangements or whatever. Feeling a bit lonely soon changed into feeling of commitment and seriously crush as I just put my eyes into a tall korean girl doing her dance moves at the floor. As I know koreans enjoy spending money I did not want to stand out as a cheapy so I ordered a bottle of Absoulte, extras and menues from 1 to 5 incl 12 SML. (food kept coming for a few hours). Everyone knows that is to much for a single guy to finish. Korean girls also like free booze (they are not so far from their western counterparts) and foods. The girl I was eyeballing was available but after initial intro a few of her friends came over. Except one they were all female so in that way my ordering was not misplaced at all. The tall one.[/QUOTE]Awesome job at the Korean disco. I never have luck there. I also never spent 12k there either. Thats a shit load to bag a girl, but fuck you only live once.
Anyways if I fucked as much as you did in one day I would need to take a week off!
[QUOTE=OneIpole; 1520523]Awesome job at the Korean disco. I never have luck there. I also never spent 12k there either. Thats a shit load to bag a girl, but fuck you only live once.
Anyways if I fucked as much as you did in one day I would need to take a week off![/QUOTE]But do remember I got 500piso from her to grab a cab back home due to a no more cash situation leaving her condo in the afternoon.
After this I slowed down tempowice as my body also have turned 40 and can not handle such a style day after day. I kept them girls coming but only from my list of contacts from prior datingsiteactivity. Now I have pimped up and moved into Makati and will stay here for a week or so. Also spending a few days in my new rented condo with mother and the newborned.
Anybody hear anything about an American guy that got stabbed and killed on the street around G Point? If so, where and what happened?
Greetings Mongers. Whilst the details of last trip are still somewhat fresh.
First some observations, having not been in Makati or Manila or Philippines for 6 months.
1. So many more Indians. Where did they all come from? There was always a lot in ADB but now, many many more.
2. The paper bag only ordinance in Makati. Brilliant! In other cities they dick around with the price of plastic bags but in one fell swoop the Binay Empire (and you know JJ is the next Pres) banned plastic. Way to go The Binays!
3. Every girl, with the exception of the second one was late. By at least one hour. The last girl was in Greenbelt early to meet me, but somehow got lost trying to find Starbucks. Amazing.
4. New World Hotel very convenient as always for meeting girls in GB3 but thanks to the sliding bathroom door, one can see what one is going to get in the mirror before you actually get it.
Was an extremely full schedule but thats the reason I was there.
So I arrived, did the drive licence renewal in 58 minutes. Good job LTO.
And then patiently waited for number one. 19 and was a virgin who gave it to me on her 18th birthday plus one day. She sees me every time, knows I chase many girls but is very coolabout it. Works in a call center, kisses like a dream and we had 3 hours of happy bed fun.
Gave her P 1300 for transport as she came from Rizal. Long way.
When she left theres a student aged 22 who I was exchanging texts with but suddenly she played for the big time asking for me for p10, 000 for the next terms tuition. No thanks honey. I had a swim instead.
Next up was Ms 22 from Taguig. We have been chattimng on / off for a year but never met, as she was away on last trip. This time I'm waiting in GB3 and right on time is a suny happy smiling slim girl who looked even better than her pics. We go buy the mandatory Red Horse.
And then go for an evening swim. Just as looking at girls in the bathroom mirror gives you an idea of what you will get, so does swimming. Especially if the girl isn't a good swimmer. Nothing nicer than the moon above you, and two hands occupied with a sweet young thing, helping her float. After the swim, go to room, red horse, Adele on the itouch, and lips on the girl. Great night. She left at 11pm, wouldn't accept anything, as she's not poor and lives in a good apartment in Global City with her more famous sister whos a well known model. So I got a well needed sleep.
Next day.
A gal from QC, was first up. She had lots of happy words in Skype about how excited she was to see me etc. 22 also. When she arrived she's much shorter than I anticipated, much quieter than I anticipated and had way way way bigger boobs than anticipated. But as I knew she had a kid, I expected the boobs might not be quite as good as they looked. And they werrent sadly. She was fun but its was all a bit mechanical. And I was on the clock so after 2 hours took her back to SM, gave her some chocolate and some pesos and moved on.
The next one up was coming from Fairview which is far. So I knew she would be late. Was travelling with Auntie. She was nervous she said as I'm first foreigner (yeah yeah weve heard that one a million times ). She was also the worlds most boring texter, her texts to me comprisng " Honey " " Where are you honey " " whos with you honey". But her texts got better. Read on.
She finally arrives and she's with some sour faced old woman who was auntie. Auntie for sure didn't like that the 20 year old, who loked better in life than on skype cam was meeting this white guy. Auntie asks where we are going. I saw I'm going to my hotel with the girl. Auntie says she's coming too. I reply that in case the meeting is off and they can go home now. They huddle and negotitate. Girl says she needs to meet auntie again in one hours time. We walk fast to hotel, girls clothes are off in about 3 minutes, and an hour later she's back with auntie. Nice body. But totally brain dead.
I then meet one of ISG's finer gentlemen. Always makes good lucid logical posts here and is a good mate to have. We share some beers and war stories, when I get the trips best text. From the girl I had recently seen. Says quite simply " Will you marry me". I nearly choked with laughter on my beer!
I then went and met a 22 year from Taguig who was way shorter and fatter than her pics and definately didn't pass the bathroom mirror test. But she was extremely good at blow jobbing so thats what we did. I didn't want her to take the robe off, no way. I gave her p500 and she said its too much so gave her p300. She then realised her error and said " Sir if its ok to you could I have the p500 instead. After that rejoined my friend in Havana where we had a happy night watching the Indian players get royally snubbed and getting generally well pissed.
Woke up with the obligatory hangover. Gathered my energy as I knew it was going to be a busy day. First up was a 19 year old gal I met on skype. Works in a call center making 500 cold calls a day. Says 490 of them are guys slamming the phone down on her. She's an hour late and also sweet and cute and happy when she arrives.
Go to landmark and buy her the cheapest swimsuit and go to room. Then the pool. Theres an old matron at the pool with her kids and looks at me with the 19 year old with disgust. Her disgust and curled lip grew even more when she realised the girl couldn't swim so held onto me in the water like a monkey. I had lots of freedom to explore the package! All went well and she left to go home after 3 hours. P1000 transportation as she travelled 3 hours each way from Cavite.
Then to GB 3 for the first 3 some. One girl I knew before the other was knew. All was well and happy and normal with that. Feel sorry for the one I knew. She had a brilliant body but childbirth has just wrecked it. Anyways we had our fun thenthey both had a happy bath together, singing. P1500 each as we had lots of pics and vids. And then I knew I was seriously tired. Got the girls to leave and went to bed. Knowing I was super tired, bit of sore throat, bit of a fever, and that Ms Subic. 22 was on the way. She arrived and I was realy quite dizzy when I went to collect her. Too much booze, too little sleep, too much sex, etc etc. Anyways I perk up when she arrives, tall slim flat as a pancake but happy face.
Go to room and rest then I know whats needed. Chocolate cake and mango. The sugar overload worked well. Mercury drugs helped with the fever part.
We go to Burgos to watch the human race, then Havana then 711 for red horse and enjoy the night. Next morning she's the normal " I'm hungry and I'm going to make your life miserable till you feed me " type. Get her rice and she rewards me with great sex. So funny these moody babes. Her kid has a fever so she has to leave for her 6 hour bus ride back to past Subic. She gets p1500. But just as she's leaving her mum calls and asks her to ask me " can we borrow p2000 for medication" Nice try honey but no.
Back to room, emails and wait for the last one. Also a gal who gave me her virginity 4 years ago. She's matured nicely and is now a very sweet good lookinbg girl. Her body is growing wider but still acceptable. Had a nice 3 hours with her, fell asleep, threw her out with p1000 for transport, and packed and returned to my home city. So that was 9 girls in about 84 hours.
There are some great guys on ISG Philippines, we know who we are, weve all been around here a long time. There are some who come her to cause trouble, to dispute peoples reports and to generally cause trouble. If you think a guy nearly 60 didn't do as I've reported, I don't really care. As I say, we all know who we are.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1521322]Anybody hear anything about an American guy that got stabbed and killed on the street around G Point? If so, where and what happened?[/QUOTE]ANOTHER victim, this time an American national, fell victim to armed holduppers in Manila who stabbed him dead in Ermita, Manila, yesterday.
Robert John Karlsen. 58, of 1827 Cornelia. 1R-Ridgewood, New York City, died instantly while the three suspects were able to flee with the victim's money and valuables.
A probe made by SPO3 Rodelio Lingcong of the Manila Police District-Homicide Section said that the incident took place at 4 a. M. Along Padre Faura St. Near the corner of M. H Del Pilar St. In Ermita.
The victim was reportedly walking alone when the suspects held him up at knifepoint.
After resisting, the victim was stabbed by one of the suspects but he was able to parry it, hitting him in the palm. At that point, the suspect got upset and continued stabbing him, hitting him once in the chest and twice in the stomach.
The police are now coordinating with the USA Embassy for proper disposition of the victim's body. Itchie G. Cabayan
I have stayed at the Best Western La Corona which is not far from the scene of this murder. With each visit to mbc I have felt less safe and would not walk alone in this area. My last visit a driver from the hotel walked with me to the red garter on Mabini.
Further to my own trip report, we all hear of the ladies requesting chocolate. Thats ubiquitous. One of my ladies though clearly had a new plan. She asked if I could bring spicy instant noodles. Cheap as chips where I live, much lighter to carry than Cadburys and they seemed to set off a good reaction with her when she saw them. She gets this year " Most Original Request" award (so far!)
Hey guys,
I will be in town on the 22nd and on. I am looking for partner in crime for hitting up the monger scene. Send me a PM.
Also this is my first time in Manila / Makati and my first time mongering.
There so many sketchy people on the streets all day all night trying to rob and steal to survive.
Walking around on dark streets late at night, especially alone, will invite troubles. Manila is not a safe place to hang out late at night.
It's best to stick to the minimum at night, cab it if you have to go anywhere. Take girls to the hotel and spend the whole night with them. Bring your favorite drinks to the room and send hotel people out to order food, then just stay in the room and screw the girls all night.
How difficult can it be to have fun and safety at the same time?
[QUOTE=Wjmpsr; 1521759]ANOTHER victim, this time an American national, fell victim to armed holduppers in Manila who stabbed him dead in Ermita, Manila, yesterday.
Robert John Karlsen. 58, of 1827 Cornelia. 1R-Ridgewood, New York City, died instantly while the three suspects were able to flee with the victim's money and valuables.
A probe made by SPO3 Rodelio Lingcong of the Manila Police District-Homicide Section said that the incident took place at 4 am Along Padre Faura St. Near the corner of M. H Del Pilar St. In Ermita.
The victim was reportedly walking alone when the suspects held him up at knifepoint.
After resisting, the victim was stabbed by one of the suspects but he was able to parry it, hitting him in the palm. At that point, the suspect got upset and continued stabbing him, hitting him once in the chest and twice in the stomach.
The police are now coordinating with the USA Embassy for proper disposition of the victim's body. Itchie G. Cabayan[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1522427]There so many sketchy people on the streets all day all night trying to rob and steal to survive.
Walking around on dark streets late at night, especially alone, will invite troubles. Manila is not a safe place to hang out late at night.
It's best to stick to the minimum at night, cab it if you have to go anywhere. Take girls to the hotel and spend the whole night with them. Bring your favorite drinks to the room and send hotel people out to order food, then just stay in the room and screw the girls all night.
How difficult can it be to have fun and safety at the same time?[/QUOTE]If not too picky a decent girl can be found at MBC during daylight hours. I would give her my name and hotel ask her to join me at my hotel in 15 minutes. That way I avoided any taxi / fake police rip offs.
Am going to be in town from Jan 29, also first time mongering and not sure how to approach it despite having read the forum quite a bit. 182 cm, blonde, blue eyes, not sure it helps despite most likely looking and behaving like a monger newbie. Let me know if interested in catching couple drinks.
[QUOTE=TyToke; 1521868]Hey guys,
I will be in town on the 22nd and on. I am looking for partner in crime for hitting up the monger scene. Send me a PM.
Also this is my first time in Manila / Makati and my first time mongering.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wjmpsr;1522429]If not too picky a decent girl can be found at MBC during daylight hours. I would give her my name and hotel ask her to join me at my hotel in 15 minutes. That way I avoided any taxi / fake police rip offs.[/QUOTE]Very risky to be handing out your (real) name and hotel to a girl in MBC mate.
It could end up anywhere and with anybody. I assume you never give her the room number too?
A better strategy is to give her your cell phone number and hotel name and let her call you when she is in the lobby. That way you leave all the hassles of I D etc with the security at the door.
My advice is irrelevant anyway because I am too picky and a decent MBC girl is an oxymoron.
I met a real sweetie in Amazonia. She said she didn't like MBC. My little sweetie both proves and disproves your post RK. The sweeties go there, but they eventually look for alternatives. I'm not sure what your definition of "decent" is, but I've had some decent lays out of LAC / MBC.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1522464]Very risky to be handing out your (real) name and hotel to a girl in MBC mate.
It could end up anywhere and with anybody. I assume you never give her the room number too?
A better strategy is to give her your cell phone number and hotel name and let her call you when she is in the lobby. That way you leave all the hassles of I D etc with the security at the door.
My advice is irrelevant anyway because I am too picky and a decent MBC girl is an oxymoron.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man;1522494]I met a real sweetie in Amazonia. She said she didn't like MBC. My little sweetie both proves and disproves your post RK. The sweeties go there, but they eventually look for alternatives. I'm not sure what your definition of "decent" is, but I've had some decent lays out of LAC / MBC.[/QUOTE]I am using Wjmpsr's terms here XMan.
Viz.
[QUOTE=Wjmpsr;1522429]If not too picky a decent girl can be found at MBC during daylight hours. I would give her my name and hotel ask her to join me at my hotel in 15 minutes. That way I avoided any taxi / fake police rip offs.[/QUOTE]I have no idea what "decent" means (usually spelt 'descent' by women on chat sites) and I am quoting him.
MBC is for "bottom dwellers", even if you think you find a "sweety" there. If she had any "class", she wouldn't be in MBC, even if she is sweet
I meant to say "good enough but not the best" or "adequate".
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1522505]m.
MBC is for "bottom dwellers", even if you think you find a "sweety" there. If she had any "class", she wouldn't be in MBC.[/QUOTE]Using pinot noir stemware when drinking claret. Always confusing the dinner fork for the salad fork. And watch her go to town with a steak; both arms perpendicular to her torso, elbows flapping like a bird.
I picked up 4 bottom-dwellers in 3 days at MBC recently, all of whom treated me decent!
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1522568]I picked up 4 bottom-dwellers in 3 days at MBC recently, all of whom treated me decent![/QUOTE]Not a bad place if you exercise your due diligence. Haven't been in there in a couple of months. Its about time.
I have never had a bad experience with an MBC girl. MBC is a honky tonk bar if I ever saw one. All my MBC girls were indecent and naughty although some were not quite up to my minimum standards as far as looks are concerned. My problem with MBC is I should never go there the first night in town after a long flight from the USA. I arrive tired yet excited to meet my first girl. I usually walk into MBC around 11pm right after check in at my hotel. After a couple beers my glasses start to get foggy and my standards loosen significantly to those of the bar. That's when I am usually most ripe to be picked up by a very indecent, yet super friendly girl. Oh the shame of it. I am such a loose man. LOL. After my trip is over and I have a chance to look back at the pictures of all my girls, I can't help but ask myself, "what the hell was I thinking" when I see the pics of that first MBC girl from the first night. Wow! But, I always had a good time there.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1522505]m.
MBC is for "bottom dwellers", even if you think you find a "sweety" there. If she had any "class", she wouldn't be in MBC.[/QUOTE]Using pinot noir stemware when drinking claret. Always confusing the dinner fork for the salad fork. And watch her go to town with a steak; both arms perpendicular to her torso, elbows flapping like a bird.
Just to clarify my opinion of MBC, in case I offend any of my friends who frequent the place and enjoy themselves.
I was not criticizing anyone else's tastes; I was merely giving my opinion only.
I still maintain that the girls who go to MBC are very much from the "lower echelon" of society but can still be sweet, nice, even decent if you like that very ambiguous word.
They just do not "float my boat", and I simply prefer to fish in a different pool whenever the desire to drop a line hits me.
Just to be sure my opinion was not "out of date", I swung by MBC a few days ago. There were many, many women there. I did the compulsory lap of the bar, sat down and had a San Mig, and after another 5 minutes I left, leaving a half-full (or half-empty) stubby behind.
What I saw depressed me, so I left. I saw a few guys getting it on, but they are far less choosy than me.
Most of the girls in MBC are old and ugly with bad attitudes. Some of these old girls were playing games, insisting n 3000-4000 Php for ST. I just laughed in their faces and told them to go fuck their vibrators...
But occasionally you can find a nice, sweet girl who is new to the business and just loves sex.
You can usually find better-looking young girls in the fish bowls in Makati or the bars in P. Burgos.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1522793]Just to be sure my opinion was not "out of date", I swung by MBC a few days ago. There were many, many women there. I did the compulsory lap of the bar, sat down and had a San Mig, and after another 5 minutes I left, leaving a half-full (or half-empty) stubby behind.
What I saw depressed me, so I left. I saw a few guys getting it on, but they are far less choosy than me.[/QUOTE]And to show what a 'box of chocolates' the place can be, I pulled a girl recently on a Thursday evening for LT (average looks / effort). In the morning I was randy again, but she was asleep, so I let the thing die and waited for her to wake up. An hour later she awoke and I was no longer in the mood. Shot her out the door and went for my morning walk, and stopped into MBC for a juice at 8am. There were 14 girls in the bar and one other guy (nearly asleep). What a mix of women: of the 14 there was young, old (late 30's) , skinny, fat (er, adipose-portioned) , ugly to maganda. I was sitting on the barstool and a pooch walked by and rubbed my back and said hi and I gladly let her keep walking. A looker was sitting across from me and I motioned her over. She was glad to accept the price / services requested, and she suggested her 'friend', also a cutie. Off we went for a ST 3-some and fun was had by all (pics later).
On the way down in the elevator, one of them asked if I wanted another girl. They said their 'friend' was waiting right outside the hotel. I told them maybe later, I was spent. Walking them out, I was pleased with the look of the third girl. They said they were about to bus to Cavite. About 1pm I get a txt: "Hi we meet in front of your hotel today. I'm here again can we meet?" What a pleasant surprise, and more pics for all of us. All three lovelies and I spend 7 minutes and 85 pesos in MBC. Love that place!
Hahahaha RK, we all have our weak moments, don't we? Sometimes we all have a low amusement level and low amusement is exactly what the place provides. Sadly, there are times when the punters are worse than the girls. Drunkards, bums, criminals and other unsavory characters milling about, swearing, swaggering, swaying, and taunting each other. Last time I was in the place there was almost a real ly bad fight brewing. Drunken Pakistanis vs. Drunken Afro Americans. Like I said, a low amusement level place. But you RK, are a bad influence. You have now made me wish to return, which I will in short order. As usual I will provide my FR.
When I'm there it often reminds me of the Blue Marlin Bar in SJO, CR. Grab a bar stool in a corner and watch the players on the stage.
Haven't been in MBC in ages (and don't intend to in the foreseeable future) but friends who have tell me that the place has seriously hit the skids since its glory days of a few years back. Even then the place was something of a lottery. One night you could find the place full of hoary old regulars, heifers and woofers with nary a fuckable bint in sight. The next night it could be soundly rocking and chock full of babes. Luck of the draw. Here is one I found on a good night. She was great fun as well. Maybe girls of her caliber are but a distant memory in MBC.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1522635]After my trip is over and I have a chance to look back at the pictures of all my girls, I can't help but ask myself, "what the hell was I thinking" when I see the pics of that first MBC girl from the first night. Wow! But, I always had a good time there.[/QUOTE]I had to laugh because I almost always say the same thing when I get back and look at the pics. My usual starting point on my first night in Manila is G-Point, a place that does have some hidden gems occasionally, but for the most part, the quality is in the 5 to 7 range, but when you haven't experienced a native Filipina sexually in months, it is easy to fall for the first decent girl you see.
Sione was a nice gal and looked good in the bar, but upon reflection in the States, I said,"Whoa, what did I see in her." And, if you compared her to Jessica, a sweet and demure tidbit from Plan B, that I met in my last week of my four week jaunt in the Phils, at least you could say my taste (or eyesight) improved measurably over my month long visit.
I remember my first trip to the Philippines and my first visit to MBC. I was (am) far from being a ladies man back home. I was like a kid in a candy store. What is a 5-7 to an experienced monger looked hot to me. Only after a few repeat visits did I start to tire of the place, not because of quality, but because the girls who I had picked up earlier were always there and always asking me to take them again. (Not because of my performance in bed I am sure, they just knew I had money and was not a perv.) I also felt less safe in Ermita, even though my hotel was a quick walk away.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1522866]Haven't been in MBC in ages (and don't intend to in the foreseeable future) but friends who have tell me that the place has seriously hit the skids since its glory days of a few years back. .[/QUOTE]Ahhhh those were the halcyon days mate.
My first time was early in 1997 when it was LAC and it was a genuine night spot to visit in Ermita.
By around 2001 or 2 it started to slip and by the time it was raided and closed and then emerged as a re-branded MBC it dropped off my list although clearly it still appeals to others as some of the current thread comments show.
Doc, looks like your budget for hotel rooms improved over time as well. LOL. And the "tidbit" is adorable. I hope you can post more pics of her.
[QUOTE=Docwiltro; 1522882]I had to laugh because I almost always say the same thing when I get back and look at the pics. My usual starting point on my first night in Manila is G-Point, a place that does have some hidden gems occasionally, but for the most part, the quality is in the 5 to 7 range, but when you haven't experienced a native Filipina sexually in months, it is easy to fall for the first decent girl you see.
Sione was a nice gal and looked good in the bar, but upon reflection in the States, I said,"Whoa, what did I see in her." And, if you compared her to Jessica, a sweet and demure tidbit from Plan B, that I met in my last week of my four week jaunt in the Phils, at least you could say my taste (or eyesight) improved measurably over my month long visit.[/QUOTE]
I usually post on the Davao page, generic posts generally information related, dull would be a good description. I find myself here on the Manila page as I read Slippery's request for info on the murder of an American in Ermita. I have followed the subsequent posts with amusement. I would call it Manila Bay Cafe - The good, the bad and the ugly. We really keep our eye on the prize - Pussy. Perhaps the poor soul who was stabed was walking home from a Typhoon Yolanda fund raiser. Just because he died walking alone in Ermita at 4 am, hmmp. Quick question. Did anyone know this man, was he staying in the same hotel as you, did you talk with him or see him at MBC, what was discussed there near the scene of the crime?
The MBC has a range of possibilities, I have met girls and had amazing sex. 50% of the time, bad sex 15% of the time and good sex 35% of the time. I have attended in the afternoon for a quickie with what I would call a true pro, had a nice, actually GREAT 3 some and have made some non female friends also.
Upstairs the Band is usually good the prices reasonable and the chat is focused on separating your sperm and cash from you. The average girls tend to be better fucks in my sample of 140 +- and some times the stunners are well stunned.
You can click and have some great fun and the key as always is to be upfront and direct.
It sure beats Makati and the prices there.
PP
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1522923]Ahhhh those were the halcyon days mate.
My first time was early in 1997 when it was LAC and it was a genuine night spot to visit in Ermita.
By around 2001 or 2 it started to slip and by the time it was raided and closed and then emerged as a re-branded MBC it dropped off my list although clearly it still appeals to others as some of the current thread comments show.[/QUOTE]And despite having visited Manila for the past 30 years, having lived there for 5 years and having visited Manila at least 30 times in past 6 years I have NEVER been there.
As in my report back in October (2013) , I visited MBC for the first time during my final night in Philippines and I had a lot of fun. Yes there were girls that I wouldn't touch there but there were also enough that I considered attractive enough to do. I liked the vibe there as I just planted myself at the bar and watched the girls, either in singles or doubles come by and chat. I did end up taking one back to the Swagman hotel (which had really dumpy rooms) a short walk away.
If I ever get to Manila again, I would certainly visit MBC again but I would stay at another hotel within walking distance.
I went to the Philippines 10 years ago and it was my first visit to Asia, and my first monger trip, first night I went into LA Cafe and picked up two ladies and I was very happy with my choice. I am returning to Manila on the 7th of Feb and you can bet the first stop after the hotel will be MBC! I remember this girl with a hare lip kept following me around holding her hand over mouth. I retrospect, it might have been an interesting experience.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1522866]Even then the place was something of a lottery. One night you could find the place full of hoary old regulars, heifers and woofers with nary a fuckable bint in sight. The next night it could be soundly rocking and chock full of babes. Luck of the draw.[/QUOTE]Also relating to "even then," I recall that the luck of the draw was subject to change from one hour to the next. In parallel with RK's fishing metaphors, it's a little like fishing for salmon when they're spawning in fresh water streams. You can cast and drift a line for a couple hours with nary a fish in sight, and then as though somebody flipped a switch, suddenly the fishing hole fills up with a school of dozens of salmon. Then it's like fishing in a rain barrel, except when you get one on. Sometimes all that was needed was to take off to Robinson's Place Mall for an hour or two, and then return to find that the scenery had changed completely.
I remember one night, probably some sort of holiday, sitting for several hours when there were perhaps a dozen men and not more than half a dozen ugly women. Two Frenchmen were sitting at one of the high tables just inside the door to the right. I was sitting at one of the tables to the left of the door in order to catch sight of any new material coming through the door. This was when there were mamasans working both floors. One had become sort of a friend and conversational partner, although I always only took freelancers for myself. Mamasan came and sat with me just to talk. Every so often one of her girls would come back in, head to the CR, then report back out to mamasan. Mamasan sent each one of these, one at a time, over to the Frenchmen. They rejected every single one, and I probably would have too.
Eventually another one came in that I had apparently not noticed, perhaps when I was in the CR. I think Mamasan left my table when I went to the CR. Mamasan sent her over to me rather than the Frenchmen. She was really stunning. She told me Mamasan wanted her to go to my table specifically. She told me she worked with mamasan because she was actually quite shy, and so Mamasan often paved the way with men she'd have been afraid to approach. She was shy and barely able to maintain a conversation, although her English was good. She told me her mother was in California and sent back money, but it wasn't enough, so she did p4p to make up the difference. She was attractive enough that I didn't care what her back story was, nor whether it was true. She wanted 1500, I think, for ST. Going price then was nearer 1000 or 1200, but I assumed her price included the 200 or so she would pay Mamasan. At that point I was so flattered that mamasan had sent her to me that I was not going to look this gift horse in the mouth. (Where have I heard that metaphor before?)
She proceeded to give me the first true deep throat I had ever experienced. The result was that I then became about a two minute wonder when we got down to our horizontal recreation. Her name was Linda. I later saw her in one of the early Trike Patrol videos. I thought those were mostly done in AC, so don't know whether her AC duty was before or after this stint at LAC. Definitely the same woman. One of the Patrol guys commented sarcastically about how talkative she was. I knew exactly what he meant. But boy was she hot-and effective with her throat.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1523322]Two Frenchmen were sitting at one of the high tables just inside the door to the right. I was sitting at one of the tables to the left of the door in order to catch sight of any new material coming through the door.[/QUOTE]Ah, glory days! I remember one of those 'froggies' who always sat in the same seat to the immediate right of the door and never seemed to 'pull'. He was a weird looking geezer who actually resembled a anorexic frog. Wonder what became of him?
Seem like your common everyday guy likes it there. The champagne wishes and caviar dreams types vote no.
Had 2 rounds with her in 2 hour one afternoon.
After the first round, she said her pussy was sore. So we were just laying in bed, embracing for a while until she felt better. Looks like she was really in pain. But unlike nasty girls from other countries, Pinays are very nice and gentle. Their good attitudes make me want to give them pleasures...
She was a young, sweet and sexy girl, soft, smooth skin, good-looking, sure to arouse my libido.
This pretty young girl was putting on make up after our long marathon of hot sex.
I really like Pinays' lean firm bodies with their soft, smooth skin.
in some ways when i first started reading the isg manila thread in general and reports from mbc (earlier named la cafe) more specific i thought this had to be the correct way of diving into the manila scene the easy way. soon 3 years ago i sat foot inside mbc and as a total newbee i started off with picking up 2 girls from mbc.
if we go down to basic mongering and nothing fancy i have earlier described mbc much simular to bangkoks beergarden in sukhumvit soi 7. it is "brown", worn out, smokey, shady and everything but still better than a streetside crackhore as the girls are somewhat controled beeing allowed to operate inside the premisis. for basic mongering mbc serves it purpose from my point of view. many people have far more years on ground but the first year visiting manila i could not visit without also paying mbc a visit. we can say a lot of things of the place but in my case i can not realy remember having a bad girl or session taking a girl or girls out from here. the latter years i have become more picky though and left malate area for makati (or sth even had dualed accomidations ie ascott makati and riviera mantion).
damn it my second last trip i met this totaly willing spinner in mbc and she even okeyed me with having my [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103][CodeWord103][/url] on her. not many girls from prive luxury club (the fort) would accept that, hehe. just to write it off my bucket list but anyway.
so when i was new to the manila scene mbc stood out as some sort of manila landmark to me. sometimes it is a bad lineup, but as someone else suggested, just take a strall, come back and the scene are changed. damn it so far i have barebacked every mbc girl i have been with ex when entering their asses so they must be nice girls as i have not in my monger life what so ever retrievee a std (only from a norwegian girl back home while studying at the uni did i do that). i admit i probably don't ever pick up the most shady and hardcore ones but still?
ofcourse punters will have different impression of the place, that comes from many variablues. but my recomandation would be to give it a shot. nothing to loose realy ex a few minutes to scope the scene, then leave if it is not your cup. it is realy not my cup of tea anymore as well, but since that is where it all started (manilawice) i get somewhat a certain connection to the place even if i these days stay on more upscale grounds in makati. good luck
[QUOTE=Skogis;1523429]MBC much simular to Bangkoks Beergarden in Sukhumvit Soi 7.[/QUOTE]Yes, very similar. I have had great finds in both but not every time. Maybe one out of three attempts. Nearby Amazonia in Malate is also hit and miss but has a more laid back, quieter ambience. When in Malate I always stay at Rothman; and when in BKK I always stay at Star Inn. Inexpensive, clean, food ok, good staff, convenient. Happy horndogging everyone. Try to make 2014 the best ever.
I have long yearned to go to the Philippines, and now the chance for a 10-day trip is coming up. The draw-back is that I will be accompanied by a colleague for the first half of the trip. We will have business in the Mandalyuong / Ugong Norte area about 11 km east of Ermita (I expect some of you can guess which major institution I have in mind). Anyway, because of the colleague, I will need to be discrete. In particular, any walk of shame is out of question, not for the shame but rather because of the risk of being found out by the colleague. So I am wondering about the following:
- Which area of town would it be best to stay in order to be able to make short runs out of the hotel, choose from among many girls and have sex on location (I. E. Without bringing the girl back to the hotel)? The ideal would be a hotel somewhere not too far from where our business is, but also close to some kind of brothel / fishbowl places with rooms on location. Short-term hotels would also be an option, but they would have to be very close and convenient as time will also be a constraint.
- What about the alternative and slightly riskier option of call girls who come to my hotel room (I will have to make sure to have a room on a different floor from my colleague)? Does this kind of thing even make any sense in Manila?
I have RTTF, but it is not easy to find systematic info / overview of what is really available in Manila and how to operate there for the newcomer.
[QUOTE=Cucumber; 1524415]I have long yearned to go to the Philippines, and now the chance for a 10-day trip is coming up. The draw-back is that I will be accompanied by a colleague for the first half of the trip.
Does this kind of thing even make any sense in Manila?[/QUOTE]The odds of you running in to your colleague at one of the girl pick up places may be greater than you think.
Don't forget your cucumber and report back after your trip.
Discrete to me means in house massage parlor. Two of the best massage places in MNL are Flight 168 and Fusion Spa. Hotels that are close by are the Solaire, Marriott, and Resorts World.
Cucumber. You featured in some of my latest pics. LOL. All we need now is for Eggplant to appear.
If you don't know Manila well, I would suggest an incall at your hotel would be the way to go. Or if that is too risky, arrange to meet a girl at a ST hotel. Find the girl on Craigs List or PM me your preferences and budget and I'll dig out some numbers.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1524442]Two of the best massage places in MNL are Flight 168 and Fusion Spa.[/QUOTE]I will be staying near Fusion Spa but have not heard of it before. Can you give more details (I've looked at their website). Is it like Flight 168 (pick a girl from one of several categories; FS)?
[QUOTE=JPF;1524464]I will be staying near Fusion Spa but have not heard of it before. Can you give more details (I've looked at their website). Is it like Flight 168 (pick a girl from one of several categories; FS)?[/QUOTE]Fusion is a little bit different than flight 168. Fusion girls are more trained / skilled in the sexual massage which makes the massage part of the session more enjoyable. You don't want to cut this part of your session short until you have experienced it a couple times. Fusion does not have different categories, but they have different massages to choose from and offer an additional service that can be selected which they call the QuickWash performed by a different girl afterwards. A specialty of the house is the 2 girl erotic FUSION MASSAGE which I highly recommend. I would also recommend following up the Fusion Massage with a service they call the Quickwash. This gives you up to 2 shots with 4 girls working on you 2 at a time. You should tip the girls afterwards. I think 500p per girl is appropriate.
[url]http://fusionspaphil.wix.com/home[/url]
[url]http://www.fusionspa...m/What's Up.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Cucumber; 1524415]I have long yearned to go to the Philippines, and now the chance for a 10-day trip is coming up. The draw-back is that I will be accompanied by a colleague for the first half of the trip. We will have business in the Mandalyuong / Ugong Norte area about 11 km east of Ermita. (snip)
- Which area of town would it be best to stay in order to be able to make short runs out of the hotel, choose from among many girls and have sex on location (I. E. Without bringing the girl back to the hotel)? The ideal would be a hotel somewhere not too far from where our business is, but also close to some kind of brothel / fishbowl places with rooms on location. Short-term hotels would also be an option, but they would have to be very close and convenient as time will also be a constraint.
- What about the alternative and slightly riskier option of call girls who come to my hotel room (I will have to make sure to have a room on a different floor from my colleague)? Does this kind of thing even make any sense in Manila?[/QUOTE]Love your name mate. You have already struck a chord with CS.
You said you are in the Mandaluyong / Ugong Norte area. Ugong is actually a barangay situated in the city of Pasig. Mandaluyong is another city amongst the greater Metro Manila area. I guess you are staying close to the Ortigas Center area (where I hang my hat) which is situated on the border of Mandaluyong City, Pasig City and Quezon City.
In Manila we tend to measure distances by TIME, so when you said you are about 11 km east of Ermita that is not terribly meaningful because it could take you anything from 30 minutes to a bit over an hour to get to Ermita from Ortigas, depending on the time of day. If you are stretched for time, then a journey to that side of town would best be made later in the evening at around 10 pm. Makati (Burgos Street or Greenbelt) will also take around 45 mins between 6pm and 8 pm, and less than 45 mins as it gets later.
Most of the Craigs List or other in-call places found in tourist pamphlets will say they are willing to service Makati, Pasay, Ortigas areas; others will say Ortigas / Quezon City; still others will say anywhere in Metro Manila. If you meet anyone outside your hotel, then there are a number of ST hotels around the area but you will need to rely on either the girl or the taxi driver knowing where to go as it is difficult to give directions here.
If you get really stuck with the colleagues who are watching you, you could head off to Metrowalk situated on Meralco Avenue. It is a good nightspot with live bands, and in the back left-hand corner up the escalator on the 2nd floor is I-SPA, a very well-run massage place (wellness center) lol. It is not a fishbowl and you take who is next in line and I have never lucked out with a girl. If you request the I-SPA Signature tantric massage it costs 900 php (discount from 1000 php during the evening) and includes a HJ without any questions being asked. The girl will give you a good 45 minute massage on your back and then will flip you over and accommodate you. They will also offer a hot towel and a cup of hot tea or coffee too. They expect a tip but don't let them tell you they need extra for the HJ as it is part of the service but I always tip anyway as I am a repeat customer. No full service allowed on premises but I assume you could get a number for after she finishes if you find a willing one and you keep it VERY DISCREET (not discrete LOL)
Hi guys,
Back in Manila for a few days. Visited EDSA first night in, priced it out. 1950 for the fine and suggested "tip" is 5K for an all nighter. I'm near the Greenbelt and have walked the Havana Cafe a few times but didn't make contact. I've got tomorrow night free and Saturday, probably Sunday too. Working very late on Friday. Any of the experienced hands mind meeting up with someone relatively new to the scene to make the rounds? I'm a 40 year old white American. PM me if anyone is interested in getting together.
Thanks,
C666
[QUOTE=Cerberus666; 1525263]Hi guys,
Back in Manila for a few days. Visited EDSA first night in, priced it out. 1950 for the fine and suggested "tip" is 5K for an all nighter. I'm near the Greenbelt and have walked the Havana Cafe a few times but didn't make contact. I've got tomorrow night free and Saturday, probably Sunday too. Working very late on Friday. Any of the experienced hands mind meeting up with someone relatively new to the scene to make the rounds? I'm a 40 year old white American. PM me if anyone is interested in getting together.
Thanks,
C666[/QUOTE]Although you've been working late, you've had the time to go by both Greenbelt and EDSA complex. Why not try MBC or G Point where its a sure thing?
[QUOTE=Slippery;1525499]Although you've been working late, you've had the time to go by both Greenbelt and EDSA complex. Why not try MBC or G Point where its a sure thing?[/QUOTE]I went to MBC when I was here working last year. I ended up leaving after a while and dropped into another bar nearby to be surrounded by old hags and ugly moms. Just as I was about to leave two women came up and said they followed me from MBC and could we work a deal. We did. Overall it was ok but not great.
EDSA is also a sure thing. And it comes with, usually, great looks and bodies. MBC was a crap shoot. I don't know where G point is. As far as Havana goes, I've walked by it in the evenings on previous visits but didn't spend any time there. 1) I'm concerned about approaching a straight and getting in trouble for assuming she is for hire and 2) I'm not looking for GSE, I'm looking for dirty PSE. While the freelancers are fun they probably don't enjoy someone trying to jam their dick down the throat. IMHO pros are less likely to be upset by this.
(What's the difference between jam and jelly? I can't jelly my cock down her throat.)
Anyway, I'll probably hit EDSA tomorrow night (work ran way late and I've got an early day tomorrow) and see if I can't talk someone off that 5K overnight "tip".
A facebook friend of mine worked at MBC 2010-2011 and has just been re-hired as a waitress.
She just told me that as of Friday, January 31st it will change its name back to L. A. Café.
Maybe some of you around there these days will be able to confirm?
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1524645]A specialty of the house is the 2 girl erotic FUSION MASSAGE which I highly recommend. I would also recommend following up the Fusion Massage with a service they call the Quickwash. This gives you up to 2 shots with 4 girls working on you 2 at a time. You should tip the girls afterwards. I think 500p per girl is appropriate.
[url]http://fusionspaphil.wix.com/home[/url][/QUOTE]Interesting, visited their website just now. The fusion massage is less than 3000. When you say 2 shots, does the service include FS or merely HJ?
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1524645][url]http://www.fusionspa.m/What's Up.htm[/url][/QUOTE]This link doesn't seem to work
[quote=traveler1234; 1525898]interesting, visited their website just now. the fusion massage is less than 3000. when you say 2 shots, does the service include fs or merely hj?[/quote]another board member, you know who you are, saw this language on the 2nd web site: "there are no 'sextras' at fusion. to be blunt. no fucking, no blowjobs, no harrassment. you will be given an enhanced massage."
i am not sure what to make of that statement because when i went there back in march 2013, i chose the two girls fusion massage. one girl was selected for me and i was able to select a cuter 2nd girl. from the start of the massage, the girls worked together very well using their 4 hands to give me a sexual porn star massage (meaning they stimulated my anal area as well as the groin inner thigh area) and nearly brought me to completion a couple of times, but they knew when i was close and lessened the stimulation at those points. i appreciated the expertise. at about the 40 minute mark the first girl who was the older girl and the more experienced therapist nodded to the other girl, said goodbye, and left the room. at that point all alone with the 2nd girl, i began to kiss her more than before and massage her breasts. she responded positively to my moves and removed her t-back and we had sex.
after the fusion massage, i had what they call the quickwash where 2 new girls came in and gave me a soapy jacuzzi massage. i did not have fs during this session, but the amazing thing was the girls were able to get me off a 2nd time with just their thigh massage (hj) and b2b massage technique. they knew what they were doing. afterwards they cleaned me off in the shower. i tipped all the girls 500p. looking back, i might have short changed the girl i had sex with, but she seemed pleased at the time.
start to finish it was a very enjoyable experience and definitely included full service. so i am confused about the website phrasing. probably the best thing to do to avoid any misunderstandings is ask the receptionist what is included in fusion massage. although you can be like me and act like an innocent abroad and see what happens. i thought full service was an intrinsic part of the session. you get two girls and at the end have sex with one of them, but i could be wrong. it may be that it is up to the girl, or the girls may have broken the rules, or the web site language is meaningless. i am planning to go back there one afternoon anyway when i am back in town. so i will let you guys know what happens.
[QUOTE=Inlock; 1525888]A facebook friend of mine worked at MBC 2010-2011 and has just been re-hired as a waitress.
She just told me that as of Friday, January 31st it will change its name back to L. A. Café.
Maybe some of you around there these days will be able to confirm? [/QUOTE.
I'd think that a name change, if any, would come after the 31st but thanks for giving me a good reason to walk over there from the mall later today to have a beer.
Will be in Manila in a couple weeks. Would like to do a couple massage with gf. Any suggestions about where to go? Really want to see gf with another woman. But under the guise of a sensual massage.
Thanks for any tips!
[QUOTE=Inglewood; 1525983]Will be in Manila in a couple weeks. Would like to do a couple massage with gf. Any suggestions about where to go? Really want to see gf with another woman. But under the guise of a sensual massage.
Thanks for any tips![/QUOTE]Best tip I can give is pay the $20. 00 and you'll get lots of advice.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1526005]Best tip I can give is pay the $20. 00 and you'll get lots of advice.[/QUOTE]Maybe or maybe not Silppery.
8 FRs stretching back to 2006 (! RTFF and it is true!), all questions but very few responses. But who knows, life is strange.
[QUOTE=Inglewood; 1525983]Will be in Manila in a couple weeks. Would like to do a couple massage with gf. Any suggestions about where to go? Really want to see gf with another woman. But under the guise of a sensual massage.
Thanks for any tips![/QUOTE]Your question intrigued me so I did a bit of research and found that this is a service that is offered. Unfortunately I can't PM the links to you.
Nut
As per Inlock's inquiry (a paid senior member Mr. Dinglewood) , I took a walk over to LA Cafe yesterday and indeed there was a large banner over the front door proclaiming this engine of Manila's economy to be the "New Re-Opened LA Cafe." I complimented the bouncer at the front door on the cosmetics however he was either unimpressed or didn't go to school long enought to learn English. Street curbs were painted new yellow and there was a large yellow circle painted on the sidewalk at the front door with the LA Cafe logo in it in red. Maybe it was red with a yellow logo. I dunno. Shame though I wasn't there to witness Erap cutting the ribbon. Against my better judgment I entered the place, had a quick beer, got shook for some money by a woman I swear I never met before in my life but knew my name, and left. Nary a woman in the place that I'd have even thought of taking out of there.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1526306]Against my better judgment I entered the place, had a quick beer, got shook for some money by a woman I swear I never met before in my life but knew my name, and left.[/QUOTE]They probably get a lot of Slippery guys through that place.
Been hanging at exclusive in Malate.
Nice club with a awesome laser light show and big projector. Really as good as Republics lasers.
Huge club with many spaces to rent couch up and downstairs. I really like the size of clube and very good service.
Some really hot ones last night in the place, but also one group of the fucking ugliest ladyboys in Manila! I threw up a bit, bla. LOL.
I love the way the club is set up. You rent a spot for 3000 of more depending. But, that money goes towards consumables. Basically you rent a spot then the money you spent you can use it for drinks or food. Really a great value.
I think its a great place but maybe not so much for wgs. They are there but not a lot of them.
I live in, as GE puts it,"the candy store" so often I prefer to go to a quiet local place. I've been in Dakota Cabin Bar about 10 times now. Its located very close to City State Tower, perhaps 25 yards to the left as you're looking at the front doors of City State. The building is the Tesoro Building and its on the opposite side of the Tesoro Building from where Cafe 28 used to be. They usually have a girl on the steps with menus trying to get passers by along with a cut out of a commercial pilot in uniform. Decor is 40ish to 50ish airplane style. Very nicely done. They put some money into the theme but why its called Dakota Cabin is beyond me. Maybe that has something to do with an airplane cabin back in that period. Maybe for once, I'm too young to understand a concept.
In the 10 or so times I've been in the place I've never seen a working girl. I consider that refreshing given the environs. The female employees are all very very sweet and pretty. Great job on the hirings. They serve food too. I never ate there but it smells great and its a great place to take a date as was Cafe 28 but there are 2 things that I can't figure out. First, there's only 1 television in the entire place and its in a very poorly placed location. If you're sitting at the bar, you have to do a 90 to 180 to see it. I'd have put a couple of tvs behind the bar. After all of the money they put into the place, I thought there'd be a couple more tvs. Not so. So I look at the back of the bar, the bartenders and the bottles on the wall. About 40% of the bottles of booze on the back wall have never been opened. That's either representative of no booze drinkers or no customers. I sense its the latter.
The other thing I can't figure out about the place is I've asked where the owners are. I've never seen them in there. Not a good business plan. Always told one of the two "might be in later." They've only been open since December and hopefully things will grow for them. I'll be returning there now and again. Very well done place but they need some TVs. And BTW, the CRs are immaculate.
Given some of the hotel internet issues, and meeting dates from DIA, FCC, PL, etc is slow, has anyone thought of or tried just going to an Internet cafe? I "see" them as filled with non-pro available girls and a monger with some technique might find some real jewels there. Then all the late arriving dates and internet issues go away, not to mention the prescreening benefits.
Thoughts?
PM
[QUOTE=Slippery;1526531]They put some money into the theme but why its called Dakota Cabin is beyond me. Maybe that has something to do with an airplane cabin back in that period. Maybe for once, I'm too young to understand a concept.[/QUOTE]You are on the correct track, in WWII, the DC-3 aircraft was called a C-47 by the U. S Army Air Corps (The Air Force didn't exist then) , a R4D by the USA Navy, and the British called it a Dakota, not sure exactly why. I suspect that Dakota Cabin is in reference to that aircraft and the interior. I would venture to guess the owners have some English / Aussie background or influence, but that would amount to a WAG on my part.
Will take a chance to venture the next time I am in town.
I'll be taking a trip to Manila soon.
I've been using my "second" facebook account to check out some of the PSP groups on fb.
I've picked out a few girls that I will be seeing. Has anyone had any experience with any of the many PSP group in Manila?
Capa
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder;1526534]I suspect that Dakota Cabin is in reference to that aircraft and the interior. I would venture to guess the owners have some English / Aussie background or influence, but that would amount to a WAG on my part.[/QUOTE]Nada to add to mongering in manila but I think a term coined by the Brits; DACoTA for Douglas Aircraft Co. Transport Aircraft. Several slang names for the bird with a very long and multipurpose hx.
There appears to be a few military or civilian pilots in this thread. This post is just nostalgic rambling with not much sexy content. Ignore if not interested.
Douglas Aircraft Co. In Long Beach, California had a few excellent aircraft designs that have low cost, high performance, high reliability and long durability.
The DC-3 passenger plane, and its reinforced military conversion C-47 transport, are good, reliable planes with very long service life throughout the 40's, WWII, Korean war, Vietnam war. A few hundreds are still flying doing variety of charters and cargo flights. John Travolta used to own one. Don't know if he still has it.
The C-47 transport planes were used extensively to transport troops and supplies throughout the world during WWII. Don't know how they did it in the vast Pacific ocean with islands thousands miles apart, with the plane having only about 1, 000 miles range and rudimentary navigation equipment. It would have been so easy to get lost in that vast ocean. Remember Amelia Earhart in her Beech 99 in the 40's, trying to find a tiny island in the middle of the Pacific ocean with a sextant for refueling? She had bigger balls than I. What a waste of beauty and talents.
The guys flying C-47s must have been doing a lot of short hops from islands to islands throughout the Pacific to get anywhere. I read somewhere that Polynesians on isolated islands marveled at the big flying planes, and named it "Gooney Birds."
A few old pilots who flew US Airforce's Air Mobility C-47's in the 40's out of March Air Force Base in Riverside, California, told me their planes only had the most basic instruments, a magnetic compass, artificial horizon, altimeter and an RDF, Radio Direction Finder, which is an AM radio with an arrow pointing to the tuned in AM radio source. These planes were used to transport hundreds of troops and personnel, yet they were not equipped with proper instruments to fly in poor visibility, low cloud or bad weather.
When their airfields were clouded in, there were no instrument approach equipment that can guide these plane safely back to their bases. The pilots would get the cloud base's altitude from the weather men. If the base is at least 500 feet above sea level, the pilots would get a few fixes of local radio stations with their RDFs to fix a point somewhere safe in the ocean. 30 to 50 miles off the coast line, where they know for sure mean sea level altitude is about 0 feet. They would fly dead reckoning out to the ocean somewhere near the radio fix point, set their altimeter to local atmospheric pressure, then gently spiral down at about 200 to 500 feet per minute, until they break out of the cloud base, 500 or 1000 feet above sea level depending on how bad the weather was. After having visuals of the ground, they would find landmarks and figure out how to get back to heir home base.
The man, who told me the story, lived on into old age after many missions, so his landing approaches worked for him. I only heard the stories. Some old timers may have different information.
Must have been very nice hopping the exotic islands all over the Pacific ocean, flying balls out every day, partying every night, getting to know intimately the healthy and sexy island girls.
After moving here a year ago I thought I had my bills in USA closed out but apparently there's a small balance left on one that I want to take care of. Creditor is global and surely a Fortune 500 company but they tell me they are not set up to take a credit or debit card which leaves me with sending a check. Last time I used Phils mail it was a birthday card for a 7 year old with $10. 00 stuck in it. The card never made it there, the thieving bastards that they are. But that was mailing something from USA to Phils. Now I want to mail this small check for under $30. 00 from Manila to USA. I've never even seen a frigg'n mailbox in this city . Where do I buy stamps? Do I have to go to the main Manila post office for stamps and mailing? Hell, I've never even seen anything that looks like a mail man here. Appropriate input would be appreciated.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1526741]After moving here a year ago I thought I had my bills in USA closed out but apparently there's a small balance left on one that I want to take care of. SNIP Now I want to mail this small check for under $30. 00 from Manila to USA. I've never even seen a frigg'n mailbox in this city . Where do I buy stamps? Do I have to go to the main Manila post office for stamps and mailing? Hell, I've never even seen anything that looks like a mail man here. Appropriate input would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]No friends or family in the USA who can pay it for you?
Can't help you with a post office, but you may want to try giving it to friend, business associate, fellow board member (ISG or otherwise) , etc and asking them to drop in the mail for you when they return to the US (or at least another western country). Regardless of what method you use I'd strongly suggest that you write "For Deposit Only" on the backside of the check; at least if it doesn't make it the check is effectively rendered useless to anyone else.
Some malls have a mini post office. Usually on one of the upper floors.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1526741]After moving here a year ago I thought I had my bills in USA closed out but apparently there's a small balance left on one that I want to take care of. Creditor is global and surely a Fortune 500 company but they tell me they are not set up to take a credit or debit card which leaves me with sending a check. Last time I used Phils mail it was a birthday card for a 7 year old with $10. 00 stuck in it. The card never made it there, the thieving bastards that they are. But that was mailing something from USA to Phils. Now I want to mail this small check for under $30. 00 from Manila to USA. I've never even seen a frigg'n mailbox in this city . Where do I buy stamps? Do I have to go to the main Manila post office for stamps and mailing? Hell, I've never even seen anything that looks like a mail man here. Appropriate input would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Slippery;1526741]Now I want to mail this small check for under $30. 00 from Manila to USA. I've never even seen a frigg'n mailbox in this city . Where do I buy stamps? Do I have to go to the main Manila post office for stamps and mailing? Hell, I've never even seen anything that looks like a mail man here. Appropriate input would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]The main Phils PO is at the bottom of Ayala Ave near RCBC Plaza.
I use the Ortigas PO in Emerald Avenue if ever I needed to send small documents that fit into a smaller envelope. They have quite an efficient system where you register your letter and they give you tracking number.
In recent times I have preferred to use a courier service. I use LBC which is everywhere but FedEx is also in most malls.
The cost works out virtually the same, and using a courier feels more secure to me and gives more peace of mind.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1526795]The main Phils PO is at the bottom of Ayala Ave near RCBC Plaza.[/QUOTE]Thought that the main PO was a ways past Manila City Hall, not too far from the Immigration Department, Red.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1526828]Thought that the main PO was a ways past Manila City Hall, not too far from the Immigration Department, Red.[/QUOTE]Oops yes I think you're right CS.
I just checked and I was referring to the Makati PO which is probably closer to the OP's residence.
The Head Office is not far from Manila City Hall.
If he really wants to use the PO he could go to [url]https://www.phlpost.com/[/url]
I still reckon it's best to use a courier. Expensive but at least you can be more confident that the mail will go through.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1526690]There appears to be a few military or civilian pilots in this thread. This post is just nostalgic rambling with not much sexy content. Ignore if not interested.
Douglas Aircraft Co. In Long Beach, California had a few excellent aircraft designs that have low cost, high performance, high reliability and long durability.
The DC-3 passenger plane, and its reinforced military conversion C-47 transport, are good, reliable planes with very long service life throughout the 40's, WWII, Korean war, Vietnam war. A few hundreds are still flying doing variety of charters and cargo flights. John Travolta used to own one. Don't know if he still has it.
The C-47 transport planes were used extensively to transport troops and supplies throughout the world during WWII.
Must have been very nice hopping the exotic islands all over the Pacific ocean, flying balls out every day, partying every night, getting to know intimately the healthy and sexy island girls.[/QUOTE]Anyone interested in some Aviation History, check into the Clipper Hotel on P. Burgos at Kalayan."Clipper" was the call sign of Pan American Airways. The hotel owner, Juan is a Pan Am freak and amateur aviation historian. If you catch him there, you will have an interesting conversation, if not, enjoy the aviation motif of the place. And yes, quite girl friendly.
[QUOTE=Inglewood; 1525983]Will be in Manila in a couple weeks. Would like to do a couple massage with gf. Any suggestions about where to go? Really want to see gf with another woman. But under the guise of a sensual massage.
Thanks for any tips![/QUOTE]If you can PM me, I'll give you the number of a girl who specializes in that sport.
[QUOTE=Capa Negra 888; 1526553]I'll be taking a trip to Manila soon.
I've been using my "second" facebook account to check out some of the PSP groups on fb.
I've picked out a few girls that I will be seeing. Has anyone had any experience with any of the many PSP group in Manila?
Capa[/QUOTE]What does PSP stand for? It is not on the abbreviations page of this site.
[QUOTE=Globe Spinner;1526871]If you can PM me, I'll give you the number of a girl who specializes in that sport.[/QUOTE]Or you can google Ticklespa.
[QUOTE=JPF;1526892]What does PSP stand for? It is not on the abbreviations page of this site.[/QUOTE]I'll guess professional sex / service provider. Or please sir, pay.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1526741]Last time I used Phils mail it was a birthday card for a 7 year old with $10. 00 stuck in it. The card never made it there, the thieving bastards that they are.[/QUOTE]A lady I met from Cagayan de Oro boxed and mailed me a Christmas present this year which consisted of seven 200 gram packages of Monks Blend Coffee. She took it to the post office and after the postal employee taped the contents together so they would not slide around, she sealed it in front of my friend. The total weight was 1, 428 grams. Because it was registered for tracking the total cost of mailing to Canada was an expensive P2, 000.
When it was delivered and signed for I opened the box to find only six packages of coffee and a weight of P1, 228 grams. While the Filipina postal worker obviously displayed excellent slight of hand, my friend was disappointed as P2, 000 to mail the box plus whatever the coffee cost was a lot of money to this lady. I am sure a package of the coffee itself wasn't worth much, but it was worth enough for the postal worker to steal a package.
I had previously sent her a lap top computer from Canada but sent it via Fedex and everything arrived intact. Late as it was held for awhile in the Philippines, but none the less in tact.
[QUOTE=JPF;1526892]What does PSP stand for? It is not on the abbreviations page of this site.[/QUOTE]Often heard in PH, paid sex provider (vs free?)
hi globe spinner,
thanks for the reference to clipper hotel. looks like a nice clean quiet place in a very convenient location on p burgos. i will check it out when i am in the area.
pan american's china clippers' transpacific flight to manila took six days and 60 hour flying time at 130 mph cruising speed. the martin m-130 had full-fuel maximum range of 3200 miles, while distance from san francisco to its first fueling stop, honolulu, is about 2, 800 miles, taking about 24 flying hours to get there. there was not much margin left for error. if the navigator screws up his calculations, the plane would run out of fuel and float around at unknown spots somewhere in the middle of the pacific.
with limited communication capabilities then, the planes would be lost at sea with little chance of rescue. flight crews and passengers would turn into savaged [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord127][CodeWord127][/url] then cannibals before they would all die in the sun... ok just joking. it's cruel but that would very likely happen.
it was a highly adventurous time before wwii to take huge risks and fly to distant places in asia. the present 15 to 20 hours flights on boeing 747 and 777 from the us west coast to manila make it so easy and convenient to visit the sweet honeys of the phil, that no honest men should take any excuse not to do it.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/china_clipper_flight_departure_site[/url]
". passenger service began in october 1936, with three martin m-130 flying boats named hawaii clipper (nc14714) , philippine clipper (nc14715) , and china clipper (nc14716). the route from san francisco bay, via pearl harbor, midway atoll, wake island, and guam to manila bay required six days with approximately sixty hours of flying time at a cruising speed of 130 miles per hour."
[quote=globe spinner;1526870]anyone interested in some aviation history, check into the clipper hotel on p. burgos at kalayan."clipper" was the call sign of pan american airways. the hotel owner, juan is a pan am freak and amateur aviation historian. if you catch him there, you will have an interesting conversation, if not, enjoy the aviation motif of the place. and yes, quite girl friendly.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Amanut]I had previously sent her a lap top computer from Canada but sent it via Fedex and everything arrived intact. Late as it was held for awhile in the Philippines, but none the less in tact.[/QUOTE]Ex Singapore. Stuff I sent to ph via LBC air or sea freight always reached intact.
Stuff leaving PH either took long time, like 1 month for a letter, or had been pilfered (coffee again)
Philpost rocks I guess. Next time stick to LBC.
Landed on Cathy Pacific at midnight. Yellow metered taxi driver talked to much asked too many questions. Tried to rip me off. Arrived at pre-booked rental condo plan to stay a couple of weeks, figured a nice hotel would be a waste of money.
When nightfall arrived went to EDSA complex first bar Cotton Club. Was introduced to chubby female manager short hair and glasses. Told her I needed her youngest girl as when they are young they tend to be naïve still innocent most will allow bareback.
I was introduce to one girl who was barely 5 ft. Named after one of the celestial beings. Paid the pittance barfine fee and took her to a short time hotel located across the major road that runs between the two points. Without showering pounded her for two hours bareback complete with cream-pie. I love to watch my cum run out of random prostitutes vaginas. Just adds to sordidness of the encounter.
Paid her 2500 Pesos for her trouble and went on my way back to Condo to rest up for the next night's adventure.
[QUOTE=Hiv Pos; 1527342]Landed on Cathy Pacific at midnight. Yellow metered taxi driver talked to much asked too many questions. Tried to rip me off. Arrived at pre-booked rental condo plan to stay a couple of weeks, figured a nice hotel would be a waste of money.
When nightfall arrived went to EDSA complex first bar Cotton Club. Was introduced to chubby female manager short hair and glasses. Told her I needed her youngest girl as when they are young they tend to be naïve still innocent most will allow bareback.
I was introduce to one girl who was barely 5 ft. Named after one of the celestial beings. Paid the pittance barfine fee and took her to a short time hotel located across the major road that runs between the two points. Without showering pounded her for two hours bareback complete with cream-pie. I love to watch my cum run out of random prostitutes vaginas. Just adds to sordidness of the encounter.
Paid her 2500 Pesos for her trouble and went on my way back to Condo to rest up for the next night's adventure.[/QUOTE]Given the contents of your post where you stress your alleged bareback sex and creampies, I certainly hope your username is just a sick joke. Personally, I think this poster is just a troll.
RG
Hello,
Please help me. If anybody know this girl. And if he meet her in person or chat her online.
Her Age: 22.
Name: Chloe Burinaga D.
CITY: Manila
PM me if someone have meet her ar chat her to. She's very active on Dating Web Sites
[QUOTE=Pilot Alex; 1528185]Hello,
Please help me. If anybody know this girl. And if he meet her in person or chat her online.
Her Age: 22.
Name: Chloe Burinaga D.
CITY: Manila
PM me if someone have meet her ar chat her to. She's very active on Dating Web Sites[/QUOTE]Some more info please. Why are you asking about her? Did you meet her? Your relationship with her? You've just posted a girl's face on a sex site.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1528374]Some more info please. Why are you asking about her? Did you meet her? Your relationship with her? You've just posted a girl's face on a sex site.[/QUOTE]Spurned lover wanting to verify through us or trying to see if she's still playing the field. Those are my two guesses. Neither of which I would want to be a part of. Posting her face here isn't cool.
I'm drawing a blank Alex but could you let me know how I might be able to find her?
[QUOTE=Radical Guy; 1527472]Given the contents of your post where you stress your alleged bareback sex and creampies, I certainly hope your username is just a sick joke. Personally, I think this poster is just a troll.
RG[/QUOTE]Most likely. A keyboard wanker!
[QUOTE=Pilot Alex; 1528185]Hello,
Please help me. If anybody know this girl. And if he meet her in person or chat her online.
Her Age: 22.
Name: Chloe Burinaga D.
CITY: Manila
PM me if someone have meet her ar chat her to. She's very active on Dating Web Sites[/QUOTE][QUOTE=FruitNinja;1528425]Spurned lover wanting to verify through us or trying to see if she's still playing the field. Those are my two guesses. Neither of which I would want to be a part of. Posting her face here isn't cool.[/QUOTE]I agree Ninja. Some time ago a certain member came to the ISG community with a pic of a gal named Miles and begged anyone to step forward who may have banged her. I thought I was doing the guy a favor by informing him that I had and provided pics to prove it. I thought he would have thanked me but instead he lashed out in a bizarre way and accused me of ruining his life. I was not aware of it at the time but Miles later told me he had her on the Western Union plan even though they had not met in person. Needless to say, Miles was not happy with me ratting her out and informed me that her st rate to me was increasing from 500 to 1000 pesos. I told her a 100 percent increase is not acceptable and I've not heard from her since. The best solution is to not respond at all to these desperate pleas for assistance.
Have been reading forum, and am looking forward to Makati business trip and some fun.
My challenge is hotel (Shangri La) will be shared with many colleagues and that can't be changed. Therefore, if I am able to slip away and meet a hottie on Burgos and agree fees, I cannot bring her into hotel. So my question is can I go in first and then she come 10 minutes later (drop her off across the street)? What is needed for her to come to my room?
Pictures in dating sites can be deceiving.
Some of the prettiest, most feminine-looking girls in Date in Asia turn out to be transexuals. There seem to be a lot more transexuals in DIA in the Phil than other Asian countries.
With my limited experiences in DIA, I found the common giveaway clues are that, transexuals usually use more make ups than real girls.
Guys are well advised to use Crocodile Dundee's surefire technique to authenticate girls: grab their crotches with both hands, and if you find any balls, squeeze real hard.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1529637]Guys are well advised to use Crocodile Dundee's surefire technique to authenticate girls: grab their crotches with both hands, and if you find any balls, squeeze real hard.[/QUOTE]Or before you even agree to meet cam with them, chat and then you will have a very good idea. If you still are unsure my rule is that if they look too good to be true (and fancy an old fat westerner) then likely they are too good to be true. Failing that and when in the room and they say "honey am on my period so it is OK to shag my ass instead" maybe your big head will kick into action and think LB / trannie.
Or you could try Croc Dundee method but that may get you into more trouble than you would if you took them to your room LOL.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1529637]Pictures in dating sites can be deceiving.
Some of the prettiest, most feminine-looking girls in Date in Asia turn out to be transexuals. There seem to be a lot more transexuals in DIA in the Phil than other Asian countries.
With my limited experiences in DIA, I found the common giveaway clues are that, transexuals usually use more make ups than real girls.
Guys are well advised to use Crocodile Dundee's surefire technique to authenticate girls: grab their crotches with both hands, and if you find any balls, squeeze real hard.[/QUOTE]Grab a block balls in the Philippines and it may be the last balls you grab mate!
[QUOTE=Joe Schmo;1529562]What is needed for her to come to my room?[/QUOTE]Your name. Your room number. Her ID.
Let your m8s know cuz they'll want to be doing the same. :p
[QUOTE=Joe Schmo;1529562]My challenge is hotel (Shangri La) will be shared with many colleagues and that can't be changed. Therefore, if I am able to slip away and meet a hottie on Burgos and agree fees, I cannot bring her into hotel. So my question is can I go in first and then she come 10 minutes later (drop her off across the street)? What is needed for her to come to my room?[/QUOTE]If the Shang has key card security in the elevators, just get an extra card key before you go out. In the event you get a girl, give it her along with your room number and first name only. You can drop her off and she can follow you up 5min later. Just explain it is a "secret" and she will know what to do. As soon as she arrives at the room, just put out your hand to get the key card back. I have done this a dozen times where I am stuck in a hotel with nosy (and prudish) colleagues. Has never failed me. Only risk is that the stupid hotel books all the meeting guests on the same floor, so they might spot the girl going into (or leaving) your room. Good luck, AsianRain
[QUOTE=Asian Rain;1529864].Only risk is that the stupid hotel books all the meeting guests on the same floor, so they might spot the girl going into (or leaving) your room. Good luck, AsianRain[/QUOTE]If the hotel books all meeting guests / colleagues on the same floor, the first thing I do is go ask for a different room. Should colleagues notice and ask why, it is easy to say the TV was faulty, the shower leaked, the toilet dripped noisily, the room smelled musty, the street was too noisy etc etc. To explain the move. Has never failed me.
Is there a taxi driver in Manila that understands the word "stop"? WTF? They get confused and keep going.
Hi,
Can anyone tell me if there are any fishbowl type massage places around makati? I heard Don Pedro is closed.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1530055]Is there a taxi driver in Manila that understands the word "stop"? WTF? They get confused and keep going.[/QUOTE]" para dito." or oy pare, para dito." that will usually work.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1530065]" para dito." or oy pare, para dito." that will usually work.[/QUOTE]I say "pare" because I speak Spanish. It doesn't work. I'll try "para dito" Thanks
[QUOTE=Slippery;1530055]Is there a taxi driver in Manila that understands the word "stop"? WTF? They get confused and keep going.[/QUOTE]Para po works in the jeep so it ought to work in a taxi.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1530139]I say "pare" because I speak Spanish. It doesn't work. I'll try "para dito" Thanks[/QUOTE]Pare pronounced Pa Rey, is the term for a "friend". Whether you know him or not.
Erap Estrada got his name as Erap is Pare backwards. Same as RK's Lana girl. LOL.
Telling a taxi driver "pare" will just make him think hes your new "friend". LOL.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1530183]Pare pronounced Pa Rey, is the term for a "friend". Whether you know him or not.
Erap Estrada got his name as Erap is Pare backwards. Same as RK's Lana girl. LOL.
Telling a taxi driver "pare" will just make him think hes your new "friend". LOL.[/QUOTE]OK FF, why don't you just come out and call me a stupid f*k? Is that why he wanted me to go to a stip joint with him? I don't eff'and believe it.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1530241]OK FF, why don't you just come out and call me a stupid f*k? Is that why he wanted me to go to a stip joint with him? I don't eff'and believe it.[/QUOTE]Living and loving in Manila is a learning experience. Every day something new happens and you either think " I didn't know that before" or " I've never seen that before ". Never a dull moment.
And on another subject, I'm going to do a 50P and post a link.
[url]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/576468/moral-support-for-a-farmers-friend[/url]
Read about the group that helps Filipinos and the one that doesn't.
[quote=freebiefan; 1530462]living and loving in manila is a learning experience. every day something new happens and you either think " i didn't know that before" or " i've never seen that before ". never a dull moment.
and on another subject, i'm going to do a 50p and post a link.
[url]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/576468/moral-support-for-a-farmers-friend[/url]
read about the group that helps filipinos and the one that doesn't.[/quote]i am sure a few high level catholic priests have runned the extra mile and put in an extra prayer here and there to assist the population in need. hey what more can you realy expect? the drunk [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] chief of police i would believe soon is up for a couple of new medals and increased pay conducting such fine work.
just to view how fucked up this country is i have disturbing news from a friend working in our foreign ministry. after the typhoon the country ofcourse screamed for help (and that is fair enough ofcourse) as they by far are well developed even without a typhoon hitting them. norway quickly decided to send $25millions. major concern was how to get the money into area beeing hit and without any sticky fingers from phil officials beeing able to lay their hands on the money. our government chosed to send two representatives with private jet down to cebu with cash in big sealed off boxes. after landing under the diplomatic "flag" customs and other airport and regional officials was druling wet spots on the tarmac to get their hands on thise boxes. their excuse was that it was far to much money to bring into the country so it was against the law. ofcourse our government had been promised a hazzlefree arrival from phil authorities but it did not happen. what did save the situation was us military presence and a high ranking officer just took control of the situation and waved the phil officials away threatning them with jail, hehe. they did run like chickens my friend told me.
so they were able to see the money beeing handed out to preplaced trustable contacts, aidworkers etc. a lot of the money was to start with also used to buy clean water (to increased prices ofcourse as the producers would use this disaster to earn a few extra bucks)
my friend have been many places around the world and to places we would think would be much worse than the phils. but according to him it is more trustworthy to send money through the robert mugabe system (atleast he will let some money through after he has brushed up his fleet of jets and cars) then through the official phil government where next to zero money will go through. he tells me that the official norway views phils as an extreme corrumpted country where you have to follow the money down to as the example tells buying fresh water(and even here on this fairly low level people would be only interested in bigger wallets and nothing else)..
I just finished searching my ass off, but could not find the report I was looking for. A long while back someone posted about taking the subway and getting off at a stop where there were a lot of street walkers. I'm in Manila now and while I don't have anything to do I wanted to go on that journey. I searched metro, subway, train, mrt but can't find that post. Can anyone help please.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1530615]I just finished searching my ass off, but could not find the report I was looking for. A long while back someone posted about taking the subway and getting off at a stop where there were a lot of street walkers. I'm in Manila now and while I don't have anything to do I wanted to go on that journey. I searched metro, subway, train, mrt but can't find that post. Can anyone help please.[/QUOTE]I think you might be thinking of Cubao
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1530615]I just finished searching my ass off, but could not find the report I was looking for. A long while back someone posted about taking the subway and getting off at a stop where there were a lot of street walkers. I'm in Manila now and while I don't have anything to do I wanted to go on that journey. I searched metro, subway, train, mrt but can't find that post. Can anyone help please.[/QUOTE]It's the LRT, and it's Carriedo Mr E.
Transporter was taking a guess.
Well arrived in the land of Tiny Pussies LOTP, this am for several days of indebted servitude. Texted a MILF we shall henceforth refer to here as JR, I had been chatting with for a few months and after the days laborious struggles we met for supper. She looked good actually better than I expected. We had a terrible Thai meal at the Mall of Asia.
Had a long chat we we discussed that she only wanted a serious man and I clearly identified that while I might be there were no assurances. We discussed many topics sexual in nature where in I was completely 1000% honest and addressed my need for a bisexual woman and well frankly many things that might make a normal Catholic girl burn in hell and she assured me it had been 7 years since a man had parted labia lane and I admitted I was perplexed as she was so often masturbating for me on cam and frankly acting like a hungry MILF. I find being 1000% truthful is always beneficial while hard on our pathertic Western ways of treating women. So long story short we sort of agreed to disagree and no harm no foul.
I was tired it was only 8 pm so I planned to kick her to the curb, nap and head to MBC for a physician recommended sleeping aide. Suddenly she decides a little wine at the room might be perfect. So off we go. We arrive chatting amicably and I am hopeful I shall be positioning her on the pink Labia separator I had carefully prepared for this evening entertainment.
I engage the laptop on some good tunes, Bon Jovi and she returns from the bathroom to some cheap wine and great tunes and begins to provide me one of the best strip dances I have ever seen much the less been the sole recipient of. Absolutely a 15 on the 10 scale and leads to me eating her freshly shorn **** on the chair in the sitting area. An nice quivering orgasm was delivered perfectly and my cock was eagerly expecting repayment, it was ready after such a performance. She had an absolutely wonderful pussy and ass and the moves that could convert an actual Catholic Priest if he liked girls. I was thinking Boo YAh SCORED, this one is not only in the bag but man was it going to be GREAT!
A little more wine, some playing and more erotic dance I mean I have rarely seen a stripper that engaged in her performance and then time to go! WTH? She says honey I told you I only have intercourse with man I love, not sure why I am here, need to go thanks, you were great. You don't love me so I can't sleep with I literally point to my protrusion in my pants and say what about him, he does not understand and then lecture her AGAIN about how being a Cock Tease is no way to capture a man heart. I was a little stunned to say the least but then glad it was still 10 and I could find a woman more focused on my outflows.
I was actually tired and wanted her to go so I could head out to fill my prescription and then suggested that she just crawl into bed with me to help me sleep, (works everytime) we crawl into bed and she says take your pants off I say "can't" if I do there will be an invasion into no mans land and lord knows you don't want that.
She then volunteers that perhaps she could "suck me off" to release the pressure and proceeds to give me a fucking world class BJ and attempted deep throat. Again full porn actress moves (Thank you Internet Gods). At one point I said I am going to FUCK YOU HARD and the legs opened like that was a secret password. But use a condom I said "OK".
While I can validate that it had been 7 years since a reasonably sized cock had visited labia lane it took a long, long long time to penetrate and she was in sufficient pain and certainly is no quitter. It took a long time and it was actually not that enjoyable and again supports my theory they can be to tight indeed. But FINALLY penetration was achieved and then she advised me she hated condoms, me also. So off comes the rubber and penetration is eased and well better.
Again porno sex really good but that poor labia lane is closing due to extreme swelling. As I nail her I am thinking of the former cock teasing and fucking her just a little harder and deeper than I might off. We stop, I sleep and she departs at 4 am, fait accompli.
So again I encounter the good girl, who had literally not had intercourse for a Long time of I am an actual Porn star who ended up giing it up to me with no begging and less wine and no promises other than the promise of future orgasms.
Got to love the Phils and the best pat it will take that pussy at least a week to heal!
PP.
I think tonight is 3 some Wednesday, but I have to check my Calendar.
Any Punters want to go on a double date on Valentines day?
Extra key card, first name, and room number, meet me there in 5. Sounds simple, what could go wrong?
Hunting on Burgos sounds like separate challenge given complaints about negotiating hassles. Still, a part of me likes that part of the hunt, picking her out from 10-20 options.
[QUOTE=Joe Schmo; 1530816]Extra key card, first name, and room number, meet me there in 5. Sounds simple, what could go wrong?
Hunting on Burgos sounds like separate challenge given complaints about negotiating hassles. Still, a part of me likes that part of the hunt, picking her out from 10-20 options.[/QUOTE]No clue. Like poetry that I didn't understand in high school english class.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder; 1530805]A little more wine, some playing and more erotic dance I mean I have rarely seen a stripper that engaged in her performance and then time to go! WTH? She says honey I told you I only have intercourse with man I love, not sure why I am here, need to go thanks, you were great. You don't love me so I can't sleep with I literally point to my protrusion in my pants and say what about him, he does not understand and then lecture her AGAIN about how being a Cock Tease is no way to capture a man heart. I was a little stunned to say the least but then glad it was still 10 and I could find a woman more focused on my outflows.
SNIP.
So again I encounter the good girl, who had literally not had intercourse for a Long time of I am an actual Porn star who ended up giing it up to me with no begging and less wine and no promises other than the promise of future orgasms.
Got to love the Phils and the best pat it will take that pussy at least a week to heal!
I think tonight is 3 some Wednesday, but I have to check my Calendar.[/QUOTE]Possible Report of Distinction. Must agree PP, these kinds of stories are what make the pinay the best (and most unpredictable) on the planet. Forest Gump's box of chocolates.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1530615]I just finished searching my ass off, but could not find the report I was looking for. A long while back someone posted about taking the subway and getting off at a stop where there were a lot of street walkers. I'm in Manila now and while I don't have anything to do I wanted to go on that journey. I searched metro, subway, train, mrt but can't find that post. Can anyone help please.[/QUOTE]Correidor, north of Ermita?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1530615]I just finished searching my ass off, but could not find the report I was looking for. A long while back someone posted about taking the subway and getting off at a stop where there were a lot of street walkers. I'm in Manila now and while I don't have anything to do I wanted to go on that journey. I searched metro, subway, train, mrt but can't find that post. Can anyone help please.[/QUOTE]Might be Carriedo. Used to be a frequent visitor and had a lot of fun there at bargain basement rates but haven't been back in ages so cannot guarantee that it still rocks. But its close to Ermita / Malate and so is only a few stops on the LRT, and no great hassle to get to. There is plenty of local style disco's and KTV bars and street action. The place only really winds up after Quiapo market closes at about 10pm.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1007-Manila&p=1495754&viewfull=1#post1495754[/url] Might have been the post you referred to.
Hope to see a FR if you make it down there.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1007-Manila&p=1340553&viewfull=1#post1340553[/url]
And this contribution from Asian Rain.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1007-Manila&p=1232250&viewfull=1#post1232250[/url]
[QUOTE=Slaol; 1531041]And this contribution from Asian Rain.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1007-Manila&p=1232250&viewfull=1#post1232250[/url][/QUOTE]As I said in Post 12235, it's CARRIEDO, around the base of the LRT station.
You guys cannot get the name right even when it's in front of you
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1531029]Might be Carriedo. Used to be a frequent visitor and had a lot of fun there at bargain basement rates but haven't been back in ages so cannot guarantee that it still rocks. But its close to Ermita / Malate and so is only a few stops on the LRT, and no great hassle to get to. There is plenty of local style disco's and KTV bars and street action. The place only really winds up after Quiapo market closes at about 10pm.[/QUOTE]As CS says, if you get on the LRT at the EDSA / Taft station, you will pass through the following stations:
EDSA, Libertad, Gil Puyat (in Pasay) , then Vito Cruz and Quirino (both in Malate) ; then Pedro Gil (short walk to Robinson's) , UN and Central Terminal (3 stations in Ermita) , then Carriedo station (in Santa Cruz).
Malate, Ermita and Santa Cruz are all part of the City of Manila.
Carriedo Station is the closest station to the Quiapo Market, Binondo and the Quiapo Church.
Note that the LRT is very busy until around 10. 30 am and after 3. 30pm because it passes through the University belt and it is almost impossible to get on sometimes.
I suggest anyone interested goes there around midday to scope out the area in the daylight so that you have your bearings if you go at night. The whole place (including the market) scares me during the day-time, so no way would I be roaming around there after dark but I know some members here like to walk on the wild side. Much better you know in advance where you are going rather than roaming around at night like a tourist, because the predators will spot you from a mile off.
Was out walking today so I went by both places. LAC from about 4:00 pm t0 5:00 pm and then G Point until around 6:30 pm I must say that the talent at LAC was far superior than anything I've seen at G Point in the recent past. G Point is the same tired girls night after night. Better turnover of talent at LAC all day long. I guess when you know all of the girls at G Point by their real names, its time to look elsewhere.
I was in Manila to complete a big project that kept me busy with colleagues 24/7. We were all booked together in the hotel, which made it impossible to even think about after hours entertainment. To make it worse, the old gf kept calling and texting. She missed me and was anxious to see me. I was getting more and more frustrated and horny as the project went on. Finally I moved heaven and earth to free up an afternoon and evening. GF wanted to meet at Robinson's Mall to take advantage of a friend's apartment nearby. Perfect. The rest is predictable. I waited at Robinsons feeling my precious minutes tick away."Don't worry. 10 more minutes." "Almost there." Etc. After an hour of that, she finally admitted that she never even left home in the province yet. It would be at least 2 more hours. I'm thinking more like 3. What to do. I"m in Malate feeling horny and frustrated and with no room. I remembered that Amazon had short-term rooms available so thought it would be worth checking out.
Ten minutes later I'm walking in the door of Amazon. It's early Tuesday evening and I'm the only customer. My thought is that I'd take a quick look at bail if there was nothing appealing. Three sweeties joined me at the table. These were't the Burgos model types, but were friendly and sweet and certainly cute enough. One of them proposed that I take all 3 of them upstairs for 1000 each. That seemed like overkill, so I selected the two cutest ones. These two were good friends and were very comfortable with a double. I enjoyed a wonderful 2 hours with them, giggling, laughing, trying every combination imaginable. It was a perfect way to ease all of the work and frustration away. I can't remember when I'd had such a good time.
As we were cleaning up we began to talk. Both were around 30 years old and had a kid at home. One of them comes into the city only once or twice a week. She has to borrow money from her sister to take the bus in and hopes that she will earn enough to make it back. The other rooms in a slum area in Manila and made it back home rarely to see her kid. They told me that they had been waiting all day for a client but I was the first. Now they earned a little and could quit for the night. I felt so sorry for these girls I gave them each an extra 500 tip. Both of them laughed and clapped their hands with joy, like they had one the lottery. The one from the province said she could now afford to buy a nice meal for her son and take it home. We dressed walked together back to Robinsons. While I caught a taxi, they went in to the food court to enjoy the bonus.
Filipino working girls really are a special breed. Most of the ones I've met are good women who are trying to better their situations. Most are surprisingly unjaded, and almost all of them I've been with actually seem to have a genuinely good time in bed. Treat the ladies right, fellows!
After the Cock Teasing event thought I would visit my old haunt the MBC. Dropped in Wed evening, all signage now says LA Cafe. My first view of Downstairs was YUCK, way more men than usual so went upstairs. A decent band I enjoy that, but upstairs was at 25% capacity and was almost even between men and women.
Usually I stay up there and typically on my past 15 or so visits over the past 7 years I fond a higher class better grade woman there. NOT TONIGHT.
I am quirky and live variety and frankly think the 6 and 7 fuck better than the 8 and 9s. BUT even for me there was not one that passed muster and most of them were smoking.
Returned downstairs, the ladies in attendance were sub par, many 3. 6 many smoking I would not date 99% of them in Canada even.
Ended up securing a reasonably attractive girl with a nice big booty, that was tonight craving.
She had beautiful skin sweeet tits, nice bum a pussy you could park a small scooter in and still she seemed to have pain. Damages were 2500 no one seems to think 1500 works and I don't like the business ruining the BUSINESS.
On the positive side she stayed for 18 hours no complaining and I had at her 3 times, so was a level 6 experience. The Cock Tease is lined up for today with a friend of her's I am going to try to nail both lets see if that little pussy has healed.
It seems in the past year my Amateur experiences far exceed the pro's.
PP
[QUOTE=Wazoo;1531655]Filipino working girls really are a special breed. Most of the ones I've met are good women who are trying to better their situations. Most are surprisingly unjaded, and almost all of them I've been with actually seem to have a genuinely good time in bed. Treat the ladies right, fellows![/QUOTE]Right on, Wazoo. Working or non-working, they are indeed special lovers. I heard another guy in Dumaguete put it this way: "we just don't deserve them". I think he's right. These girls are like hitting the pussy lotto. Still, I like to sample other cultures, too.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder; 1531716]Damages were 2500 no one seems to think 1500 works and I don't like the business ruining the BUSINESS.
On the positive side she stayed for 18 hours no complaining and I had at her 3 times, so was a level 6 experience.[/QUOTE]P2500 for 18 hours with no complaining is a good deal.
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1531830]P2500 for 18 hours is a good deal.[/QUOTE]Spot on. Even for 12 hours.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1530055]Is there a taxi driver in Manila that understands the word "stop"? WTF? They get confused and keep going.[/QUOTE]Always be polite when you're a guest in another country. In English we say sir / mam. In Tagalog 'Po' is used (no gender). 'Dito po' roughly 'Here sir' is my recommendation. Bear in mind they will usually not be accustomed to your accent & be patient.
AV
[QUOTE=Amavida; 1531841]Always be polite when you're a guest in another country. In English we say sir / mam. In Tagalog 'Po' is used (no gender). 'Dito po' roughly 'Here sir' is my recommendation. Bear in mind they will usually not be accustomed to your accent & be patient.
AV[/QUOTE]Sir, I live here and know a little bit about common courtesy and customs so please don't condescend and talk to me like you're my mother. But when you ask a driver to stop 4 times and he fails to do so, nerves get a bit frayed. How can an accent cause a single syllable word like "stop" to fail? I would think that any taxi driver in the world knows that word. On the way to the bank this morning I used "para dito" three times and I got dropped off about 150 yards past the bank. I speak excellent Spanish with minimal accent so I'm certain that when I say "para dito" I have said it quite clearly.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1532158]Sir, I live here and know a little bit about common courtesy and customs so please don't condescend and talk to me like you're my mother.[/QUOTE]I agree with Amavida. Perhaps his idea of common courtesy is a bit distorted. Even if you live here you need to remember you are a guest in their country. If a poor taxi driver stops a few yards away from your preferred location you should just take it in stride and politely pay the man for getting you there safely. There may have been a valid reason he could not stop the moment you told him to. Unfortunately there are some foreigners who have this feeling of entitlement and superiority toward the local people which is regrettable.
[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver;1532176]I agree with Amavida. Perhaps his idea of common courtesy is a bit distorted. Even if you live here you need to remember you are a guest in their country. If a poor taxi driver stops a few yards away from your preferred location you should just take it in stride and politely pay the man for getting you there safely. There may have been a valid reason he could not stop the moment you told him to. Unfortunately there are some foreigners who have this feeling of entitlement and superiority toward the local people which is regrettable.[/QUOTE]When I've got a load of cash in my pocket and going to the bank, where I get dropped off becomes a matter of security, not courtesy. I don't consider "a few yards away" to be the length of a par 3. OK SB I'll just STFU and not tell the driver to stop again after I've told him to stop the first time. I want to go from Point A to Point B. I am polite and courteous. Where does "entitlement and superiority" figure into my getting from Point A to Point B. If the driver doesn't know where Point B is and I have to direct him there (as frequently happens in and around Manila) , I look for the best spot to jump out at Point B and tell him to stop, giving him ample opportunity to stop. What in the world could possibly be wrong with that?
[QUOTE=Slippery;1532158]Sir, I live here and know a little bit about common courtesy and customs so please don't condescend and talk to me like you're my mother. But when you ask a driver to stop 4 times and he fails to do so, nerves get a bit frayed. How can an accent cause a single syllable word like "stop" to fail? I would think that any taxi driver in the world knows that word. On the way to the bank this morning I used "para dito" three times and I got dropped off about 150 yards past the bank. I speak excellent Spanish with minimal accent so I'm certain that when I say "para dito" I have said it quite clearly.[/QUOTE]Ok slippery, I didn't know you lived in the Phil's. No offense intended. I lived here for 5 years or so & about to return to settle in April. In my experience taxi drivers the world over (Phils included) stop where its SAFE to do so. They can't always stop instantly where you are asking. I do understand what you're venting about, honestly. Some days the place gives you the shits hehehe. The attraction of the place for me is the low costs & abundant pussy which out weighs the irritations of the Filipino personality. If you live here you don't need language or cultural lessons. I get that. Happy mongering!
AV
[QUOTE=Slippery;1532508]When I've got a load of cash in my pocket and going to the bank, where I get dropped off becomes a matter of security, not courtesy. I don't consider "a few yards away" to be the length of a par 3. OK SB I'll just STFU and not tell the driver to stop again after I've told him to stop the first time. I want to go from Point A to Point B. I am polite and courteous. Where does "entitlement and superiority" figure into my getting from Point A to Point B. If the driver doesn't know where Point B is and I have to direct him there (as frequently happens in and around Manila) , I look for the best spot to jump out at Point B and tell him to stop, giving him ample opportunity to stop. What in the world could possibly be wrong with that?[/QUOTE]I think if you had told the driver you were carrying a load of cash he would have understood your importance of stopping in front of the bank.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;1532569]I think if you had told the driver you were carrying a load of cash he would have understood your importance of stopping in front of the bank.[/QUOTE]Then the driver would have stopped somewhere where you wouldn't expect it. And you meet maybe some of his friends. These friends aren't so much interested to get you to the bank. More interested in the cash. Or so, welcome to the Philippines!
Cheers!
Hey everyone,
On my last visit I stayed at the Pan Pacific. It was nice, but I would hope so at twice the price of a lot of other places. I liked the general area, and saw the Rothman close by.
Does anyone know if the Rothman is still overnight guest friendly? I assume so, but would hate to find out the hard way if it isn't.
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to TJ 2222
Most hotel in Manila is GF I have taking girl back to both hotel no problem but Pan Pacific is a 4 star high end hotel and Rothman inn is only a 3 star low end hotel, there are many other hotel in the area for 45 USD a night, Rothman is getting old need remodeling Rivera mansion the sister hotel next st at Mabini and Las Palmas next door have nicer room.
Fast Eddie 48.
Does anyone know if the Rothman is still overnight guest friendly? I assume so, but would hate to find out the hard way if it isn't.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1532834][
Most hotel in Manila is GF I have taking girl back to both hotel no problem but Pan Pacific is a 4 star high end hotel and Rothman inn is only a 3 star low end hotel, there are many other hotel in the area for 45 USD a night, Rothman is getting old need remodeling Rivera mansion the sister hotel next st at Mabini and Las Palmas next door have nicer room.
Fast Eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Great info. Thanks for the recommendations.
[QUOTE=TJ222; 1532821]Hey everyone,
On my last visit I stayed at the Pan Pacific. It was nice, but I would hope so at twice the price of a lot of other places. I liked the general area, and saw the Rothman close by.
Does anyone know if the Rothman is still overnight guest friendly? I assume so, but would hate to find out the hard way if it isn't.[/QUOTE]RTFF. I just posted a review of the Rothman about 3 weeks ago in the MNL hotel thread; which is where your question should have been posted.
And how about posting a full review of the Pan Pacific?
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48;1532834]Does anyone know if the Rothman is still overnight guest friendly? I assume so, but would hate to find out the hard way if it isn't.[/QUOTE]If you _PAY_ for a double then you are fully within your rights to have another human being occupy the room with you.
If you both behave with decorum (like normal guests) then nobody will quarrel you.
If (like me) you sometimes have several companions for the night then inform reception & pay the extra charge _UP_FRONT_ without question.
You will have no problems.
There is only one establishment in the Phils that I know of that imposes a moral judgement on guests.
Everywhere else its just business.
Some of the bigger hotels make a bit of a play of security but I've never experienced it.
I've always made it clear my companion is with me.
AV
Does anyone know if the Marriott is GF? Also is it safe to walk around the area around the Marriott?
Recommendations please.
[QUOTE=Ekspat; 1532783]Then the driver would have stopped somewhere where you wouldn't expect it. And you meet maybe some of his friends. These friends aren't so much interested to get you to the bank. More interested in the cash. Or so, welcome to the Philippines!
Cheers![/QUOTE]Maybe or maybe not. Sometimes we get lost in our self-importance. Yes, you have to be careful but not all taxi drivers will rip you off. 90 some per cent will not rip you off like that. Yes, you do have to be careful but you do have to have some acceptable tolerances or please exit the country for everyone's good. I was going to state you are free to exit anytime but it does cost you P550 to exit.
[QUOTE=Shanghai1955;1533305]Does anyone know if the Marriott is GF? Also is it safe to walk around the area around the Marriott? Recommendations please.[/QUOTE]The area around the Marriott is a casino named Resorts World, two other hotels, two famous nightclubs, a mall, and an upscale residential community called Newport. All very safe to wander. Across the street is NAIA terminal 3 which is also relatively safe unless you're a mayor from Mindanao. Or standing next to a mayor from Mindanao.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;1533426]Maybe or maybe not. Sometimes we get lost in our self-importance. Yes, you have to be careful but not all taxi drivers will rip you off. 90 some per cent will not rip you off like that. Yes, you do have to be careful but you do have to have some acceptable tolerances or please exit the country for everyone's good. I was going to state you are free to exit anytime but it does cost you P550 to exit.[/QUOTE]And DG, I'll gladly pay the 550 for you to take a hike. Where'd this guy come from?
[QUOTE=Dg8787;1533426]but not all taxi drivers will rip you off. 90 some per cent will not rip you off like that.[/quote]Fully agree with you. I just had 10 action-packed days in Manila and whenever I used a taxi, the driver switched on the meter and got me safely to my destination. It's just I would never tell a driver or anyone else that I'm carrying a lot of cash with me.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;1533426]you are free to exit anytime but it does cost you P550 to exit.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information, I didn't know that.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Slippery;1533489]And DG, I'll gladly pay the 550 for you to take a hike. Where'd this guy come from?[/QUOTE]Mr. Slippery I am exiting March 10th and will gladly let you pay my exit fee from your pocket full of cash.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1533489]And DG, I'll gladly pay the 550 for you to take a hike. Where'd this guy come from?[/QUOTE]Calm down Slippery, I don't think he means it the way it may read. In any event life is to fleeting nes pa?
AV
[QUOTE=Ekspat; 1533494]Fully agree with you. I just had 10 action-packed days in Manila and whenever I used a taxi, the driver switched on the meter and got me safely to my destination. It's just I would never tell a driver or anyone else that I'm carrying a lot of cash with me.
Thanks for the information, I didn't know that.
Cheers![/QUOTE]You are welcome. I always have 550php in cash to pay the departure tax. So don't get rid of all your pesos before you get to the airport. There was some chatter, probably on another site about how some immigration officers will take your remaining cash / pesos as you are leaving. It has never happened to me and I really don't see how they could. Lots of general Filipino rip off comments that I have not found out to be true. IMO Philippines is pretty safe and the people are very nice. Glad you had a great time.
I found myself in Manila today for the first time in awhile, but I was quickly reminded of the reasons I do not like it here. Upon arrival on a domestic flight I collected my bags and proceeded to grab a cab. Some guy came up to me and offered his services. Upon consulting his official price list he quoted me 750 php to my hotel which is not far from the us embassy. I declined and strolled to Bay 19 and took a metered yellow cab which cost 206 php. I checked in and grabbed a cab to Robinson's Mall for a bite to eat, cab fare was 54php. I ate in a nice Filipino restaruant in front of Friday's. A western man around 50 came in for lunch accompanied by his target, a young woman accompanied by 5 relatives. They eagerly grabbed the menu's and this poor sucker was going to pick up the tab for all. Upon leaving we grabbed another cab who asked for 100 php to take me back to my hotel. I declined and asked him to turn on the meter, he declined and asked me to exit his cab which I did. The next cab driver turned on the meter and drove me back for 54 php, I was happy to give him a 100 as he was nice and honest. I am no expert on human behavior or body English, but it was so obvious the girl was going to soak the poor sucker in the restaruant, and her family were displaying none of the common decency displayed by most Filipinos. I can only assume she was a Cherry Blossom find (etc) , there are thousands of nice girls here with nice family's, though they all wil want at least some of your money, her tits looked like foam to me anyway. No need to wine and dine her low life family, stick to p4p, it can be cheaper.
[QUOTE=Dg8787; 1533516]Mr. Slippery I am exiting March 10th and will gladly let you pay my exit fee from your pocket full of cash. [/QUOTE.
Yeah, just let me know the time and wait for me outside of Terminal 1. Good riddance.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;1533426]Maybe or maybe not. Sometimes we get lost in our self-importance. Yes, you have to be careful but not all taxi drivers will rip you off. 90 some per cent will not rip you off like that. Yes, you do have to be careful but you do have to have some acceptable tolerances or please exit the country for everyone's good. I was going to state you are free to exit anytime but it does cost you P550 to exit.[/QUOTE]To DG.
Yes not all taxi driver in manila will scam you but most will try if you are Foreigner, I think taxi driver in Manila and Jarkata are the worst in the World but in cebu or other city in PI is not that bad.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Slippery; 1534094]
[QUOTE=Dg8787; 1533516]Mr. Slippery I am exiting March 10th and will gladly let you pay my exit fee from your pocket full of cash. [/QUOTE]Yeah, just let me know the time and wait for me outside of Terminal 1. Good riddance.[/QUOTE]10:55pm United flight to Guam. Better yet if I may ride with you in your taxi ride to the airport?
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1534104]To DG.
Yes not all taxi driver in manila will scam you but most will try if you are Foreigner, I think taxi driver in Manila and Jarkata are the worst in the World but in cebu or other city in PI is not that bad.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]FE 48,
I agree with you that a few will commit misdemeanor scams on you. I have it happen to me but I have figured it is within my loss tolerances. Sometimes I get a good laugh out of it! There was a hotel in Manila that the door men tried to steer you to their own taxis that charged double the price. They would not let normal taxis line up there. They were dumb enough to quote the price up front upon asking them. The hotel has since fired these door men and you get the regular taxi lineup.
In Manila I have cell phone numbers to a couple fair price taxi drivers who I call. When one is not available I call the other ones. During peak hours in Manila (also in Cebu) it is almost impossible to hail a taxi. Sometimes it is a 2 hour wait in the taxi lines at the malls. I usually schedule in advance with my taxi driver to pick me up at the mall to avoid the 2 hour wait.
My suggestion is if you found a good driver, get his number or her number. Yes, I did run into a rare woman taxi driver.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1534104]To DG.
Yes not all taxi driver in manila will scam you but most will try if you are Foreigner, I think taxi driver in Manila and Jarkata are the worst in the World but in cebu or other city in PI is not that bad.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Funny, I've lived here for 10+ years, come to Manila every week and while here take taxis almost every day. I think I could easily count on two hands the number of times taxi drivers have tried to rip me off. The huge majority of the time, they are courteous and honest, though the condition of the vehicles often leaves a lot to be desired.
GE
I know a few American guys who felt really good to be generous to these young girls and their families. They would pay for anything the girls ask for.
When the guys realized they have been drained of all their money, they become very angry and bitter.
It's best to keep relationships rational. Sometimes the honest and fair P4P girls make you feel better and safer than those "good" girls who are always scheming to swindle from you.
[QUOTE=Wjmpsr; 1534020]I.
I ate in a nice Filipino restaruant in front of Friday's. A western man around 50 came in for lunch accompanied by his target, a young woman accompanied by 5 relatives. They eagerly grabbed the menu's and this poor sucker was going to pick up the tab for all.
I am no expert on human behavior or body English, but it was so obvious the girl was going to soak the poor sucker in the restaruant, and her family were displaying none of the common decency displayed by most Filipinos. I can only assume she was a Cherry Blossom find (etc) , there are thousands of nice girls here with nice family's, though they all wil want at least some of your money, her tits looked like foam to me anyway. No need to wine and dine her low life family, stick to p4p, it can be cheaper.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dg8787;1534114]10:55pm United flight to Guam. Better yet if I may ride with you in your taxi ride to the airport?[/QUOTE]Two words. And maybe they are GROW UP. Then again maybe they arent.
Many guys here put health in danger by having way too much sex.
But have pity on the Australian marsupial that has frequent 14 hour sessions, THEN DIES.
It could be compared to some of our finer mongers in having " very shaggy, very hairy" bodies.
The rest of the report can be found here.
[url]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/new-type-of-marsupial-which-mates-frantically-then-dies-has-been-discovered-9139270.html[/url]
We miss you FiftyP!
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48;1534104]I think taxi driver in Manila and Jarkata are the worst in the World[/QUOTE]Huh? I consider the Bluebirds or Silverbirds in Jakarta as excellent compared with the taxi mafia from Malaysia. Also the taxis in Manila are better than Malaysian taxis, but I have to admit that I know Makati and Ortigas area only.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1534226]Funny, I've lived here for 10+ years, come to Manila every week and while here take taxis almost every day. I think I could easily count on two hands the number of times taxi drivers have tried to rip me off. The huge majority of the time, they are courteous and honest, though the condition of the vehicles often leaves a lot to be desired.[/QUOTE]I'd want to re-quote GE's post in its entirety (almost) because my experience is the same.
I've lived in Manila for 17 years now and use taxis almost every day to go everywhere including from Ortigas to Malate now and again. I know I can easily count on one hand the number of times a taxi driver has tried to rip me off. I virtually NEVER have to ask them to use the meter.
Most are courteous and honest, and they enjoy having a chat too. I always ask them which province they are from etc and having been all over I can usually talk to them about their home province.
I know someone will jump on here and say that GE and I are living in some parallel universe and we cannot be telling the truth but I have no reason not to relate accurately my own experience.
I am sure taxi drivers recognise that we don't dress like "tourists" or "visitors" (shorts, singlets, sandals etc), and we always know where is our destination and the best way to get there.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1534425]I'd want to re-quote GE's post in its entirety (almost) because my experience is the same.
I've lived in Manila for 17 years now and use taxis almost every day to go everywhere including from Ortigas to Malate now and again. I know I can easily count on one hand the number of times a taxi driver has tried to rip me off. I virtually NEVER have to ask them.
I am sure taxi drivers recognise that we don't dress like "tourists" or "visitors" (shorts, singlets, sandals etc) , and we always know where is our destination and the best way to get there.[/QUOTE]I think we can all agree that if you have not lived here for 10 years or read this site you will pay too much when departing the airport. You are first accosted by the rip off taxis when leaving the airport.
With regard to the rest of the city I have had several bad experiences when asking for a short ride from Robinson's in Ermita. (I have also enjoyed many courteous and honest drivers.) My wife was with me for several of the bad rides. I hope I don't look like Gomer Pyle (sucker).Years ago I was a Peace Corps volunteer so I have some travel skills and hate sandals as I have nail fungus.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1534226]Funny, I've lived here for 10+ years, come to Manila every week and while here take taxis almost every day. I think I could easily count on two hands the number of times taxi drivers have tried to rip me off. The huge majority of the time, they are courteous and honest, though the condition of the vehicles often leaves a lot to be desired.
GE[/QUOTE]I tend to agree with GE (and RK) on this. Manila is the worst case for me while Cebu and Davao are excellent for taxis but it really is rare and when it does happen it is easy to correct. Now try a taxi in Cairo and you will think Manila is really innocent!
Not only vehicle condition as a hunky guy like yours truly sometimes has to squeeze into the car unlike other Asian countries LOL.
I represented 5 taxi companies in the USA for many years. It was pretty much a break even thing unless the drivers were in accidents that weren't there fault in which case they were sent to me and I made some nice money. But over the years I got to know almost every driver from every one of those companies personally. Perhaps 110 drivers over the years. When I get in a taxi wearing whatever, I am automatically very sympathetic with the driver given my past background. About 20% of the time they refuse to turn the meter on."Up to you sir." Maybe they don't know that I live here as 90% of the time I'm indeed in shorts and flip flops."Up to you sir" to me, is a recipe for disaster. I then repeat my request for the meter. There is either a refusal or "meter broken sir." I then tell them to stop the cab and the dumb a$$es keep going! Eventually they stop and I leave. Of course then I'm stuck in "no mans' land" and looking for another cab.
The other one that purely pisses me off, given my sympathy for how hard and long these guys work is when I want to go down to a well known corner in Ermita from my place in Malate.
I know its a 52-55 peso ride without any traffic and 71 if its really bad. Again, I know how bad it is for the drivers so I'll tell them not to turn the meter on and I'll give you 80, 90 or even 100 depending on what time of the day it is. Another 20% of these a$$holes demand more, even when they're being paid well with the meter off! That's pure cash in their pockets.
The distinguishing factor appears to be where you are when you first get in that taxi. There's probably much less of a propensity for a driver to be crooked in Makati, The Fort, Global City, Alabang or other locales. Indeed, Ermita is crap and invites crap. I'm on the "nice end" of Malate but still have to deal with a dishonest taxi driver at least once a week.
[QUOTE=Slippery; 1534446]I represented 5 taxi companies in the USA for many years. It was pretty much a break even thing unless the drivers were in accidents that weren't there fault in which case they were sent to me and I made some nice money. But over the years I got to know almost every driver from every one of those companies personally. Perhaps 110 drivers over the years. When I get in a taxi wearing whatever, I am automatically very sympathetic with the driver given my past background. About 20% of the time they refuse to turn the meter on."Up to you sir." Maybe they don't know that I live here as 90% of the time I'm indeed in shorts and flip flops."Up to you sir" to me, is a recipe for disaster. I then repeat my request for the meter. If there is either a refusal or "meter broken sir." I then tell them to stop the cab and the dumb a$$es keep going! Eventually they stop and I leave. Of course then I'm stuck in "no mans' land" and looking for another cab.
The other one that purely pisses me off, given my sympathy for how hard and long these guys work is when I want to go down to a well known corner in Ermita from my place in Malate.
I know its a 52-55 peso ride without any traffic and 71 if its really bad. Again, I know how bad it is for the drivers so I'll tell them not to turn the meter on and I'll give you 80, 90 or even 100 depending on what t ime of the day it is. Another 20% of these a$$holes demand more, even when they're being paid well with the meter off! That's pure cash in their pockets and they're trying to jam me. And then they don't even know how to get to where I want to go!
The distinguishing factor appears to be where you are when you first get in that taxi. There's probably much less of a likelihood of encountering a dishonest driver in a more affluent part of the city. Never had a problem at the airport either, but I know my way around there. Several times drivers have offered to have them take me to my place 15-18 minutes away for "only 1, 400."
Thought I'd add my two cents re. The taxi situation.
Seems to be lost on many of these cabbies that if you're pleasant and respectable, more often than not they'll get a worthwhile tip. Keeping in mind, as a few have pointed out. 50 pesos here and there is barely a dollar for us.
My personal experience, my cab from the EDSA complex to green belt, was a certain price. The girl wanted to go drink, and he wanted another 100 pesos to go to Burgos st. I told him 50 and no more. Stuck between a rock and a hard place because you have company, and it is late.
On the other hand, my taxi from AC back to NAIA was meant to be 1500p, flat rate. As others have described, the driver was friendly and we talked about him not having ever been to MoA despite dropping people there and the corruption in the government. When we arrived, I gave him an extra 300p, and he said "this is too much sir". So there you go, as is the case con most parts of the world, people are mostly honest trying to get by. But if you try to take advantage, there should be little tolerance for it.
I agree with RK, and GE.
I usually get in the front, and chat with the drivr all the way. His province, family, kids, income etc.
They are usually pretty happy that a foreigner takes a personal interest in them.
If I am going to a difficult destination, I say to the driver. Meter plus X, where X could be 50, 100, 200.
Neve had a knock back, never an argument. Because we both know exactly what the result will be easy.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1534425]I'd want to re-quote GE's post in its entirety (almost) because my experience is the same.
I've lived in Manila for 17 years now and use taxis almost every day to go everywhere including from Ortigas to Malate now and again. I know I can easily count on one hand the number of times a taxi driver has tried to rip me off. I virtually NEVER have to ask them to use the meter.
Most are courteous and honest, and they enjoy having a chat too. I always ask them which province they are from etc and having been all over I can usually talk to them about their home province.
I know someone will jump on here and say that GE and I are living in some parallel universe and we cannot be telling the truth but I have no reason not to relate accurately my own experience.
I am sure taxi drivers recognise that we don't dress like "tourists" or "visitors" (shorts, singlets, sandals etc) , and we always know where is our destination and the best way to get there.[/QUOTE]
It looks like I am going to be staying in Dasmarinas with a honey for 10 days or so.
For a couple of nights, I will be on my own.
Does anyone know of any girlie bars, or similar, in the Cavite area?
Thanks in anticipation.
G
Hi folks,
I am going to make my "cherry" Phil visit from 31 March. I have booked 3 nights in La Corona. Maybe a mistake given some comments in the Hotel section, but got great deal for Executive Suite. They wanted 800 pesos for car from Airport, so I plan to take organised cab from Airport. Is that sensible or should I pay the extra? I plan to see a couple DIA girls, visit MBC and pop into some clubs in EDSA. Any advice as to which clubs or other areas. Any to avoid / must dos?
I then plan to go to Angeles via Southern Cross bus. Stay in ABC for 5 nights. I will post there, but happy to listen to any advice.
Peter
[QUOTE=Petertaylor; 1534580]Hi folks,
I am going to make my "cherry" Phil visit from 31 March. I have booked 3 nights in La Corona. Maybe a mistake given some comments in the Hotel section, but got great deal for Executive Suite. They wanted 800 pesos for car from Airport, so I plan to take organised cab from Airport. Is that sensible or should I pay the extra? I plan to see a couple DIA girls, visit MBC and pop into some clubs in EDSA. Any advice as to which clubs or other areas. Any to avoid / must dos?
I then plan to go to Angeles via Southern Cross bus. Stay in ABC for 5 nights. I will post there, but happy to listen to any advice.
Peter[/QUOTE]There's a continuous stream of cabs available at the airport. P800 is way too much, cancel that. Either get a yellow cab which will use a meter & is fair price or if going in other cabs inform the driver your destination & ask how much. Don't agree more than P400, wave him off & get another or insist on meter. Be aware that meters are often fiddled in non yellow cabs. As a local I never ask meter instead settling for haggling the price up front the same as all the other locals.
DIA girls can be a time wasting lottery. If you're very time limited don't focus on them too much, just include them as a nice distraction to your main event. Likewise MBC, some nights the place is a gold mine, some nights a desert. If you're only in Manila 3 days EDSA or Burgos St bars are an expensive but reliable method to get laid.
If your hotel is in Malate/Ermita then your main area of operations is Robinson's mall day time & MBC, Amazon's & the many KTV'S at night. EDSA is a little way from where you are & Burgos even further. Traffic can be a real pain, factor that in your time budget otherwise you will waste your 72 hours sitting in cabs in traffic jams.
The bus from Swaggies to AC is clean, safe, cheap but a little long winded method to get there. I almost always recommend book a car from your hotel to AC. This is a little higher priced but faster & more comfortable. Don't hail a cab off the street for this, bad idea. 5 nights in AC will see you ready to check in to a hospital for exhaustion. There is more cheap P4P girls per square in than anywhere else in PI. Be aware, most still bare back there due to constant influx of 'fresh of the farm' girls. Up to you how you view this.
You should have an absolute blast.
AV
[QUOTE=Amavida;1534624]There's a continuous stream of cabs available at the airport. P800 is way too much, cancel that. Either get a yellow cab which will use a Meyer & is fair price or if going in other cabs inform the driver your destination & ask how much. Don't agree more than P400, wave him off & get another or insist on Meyer. Be aware that metres are often fiddled in non yellow cabs. As a local I never ask meter settling for haggling the price up front.[/QUOTE]I ususlly go for the meter-fare yellow taxis, but last time I arrived in Manila there was a line a mile long waiting for them (Terminal 3). So, I bit the bulet at paid 600 pesos for a quick taxi to Malate. After all, time is money.
RG
I tried searching and rtfm but could not find my answer. I'm visiting MNL again and trying to decide where to stay. I really had good luck with EDSA last time and MBC was hit and miss. My question is how early do the bars open at EDSA?
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1534425]I'd want to re-quote GE's post in its entirety (almost) because my experience is the same.
I've lived in Manila for 17 years now and use taxis almost every day to go everywhere including from Ortigas to Malate now and again. I know I can easily count on one hand the number of times a taxi driver has tried to rip me off. I virtually NEVER have to ask them to use the meter.
Most are courteous and honest, and they enjoy having a chat too. I always ask them which province they are from etc and having been all over I can usually talk to them about their home province.
I know someone will jump on here and say that GE and I are living in some parallel universe and we cannot be telling the truth but I have no reason not to relate accurately my own experience.
I am sure taxi drivers recognise that we don't dress like "tourists" or "visitors" (shorts, singlets, sandals etc) , and we always know where is our destination and the best way to get there.[/QUOTE] Not having your 17 years, but having had 5 there and countless visits, I'd second what RK and GE has said. I usually throw a little Tagalog in at the begining just so we all know the score.
One day I didn't do this and the driver started telling me he couldn't use the meter as it was a public holiday and that taxis were exempt from meter useage on such days. I nodded then suggested " Pare, paki hinaan radyo mo " (please turn down the volume on your radio ). He looked with bug eyes and said " Sir, your not a tourist" I replied no, he smiled, put the meter on and we both had a laugh and a joke. Thats the only rip off attempt I can recall.
[QUOTE=Radical Guy; 1534627]I ususlly go for the meter-fare yellow taxis, but last time I arrived in Manila there was a line a mile long waiting for them (Terminal 3). So, I bit the bulet at paid 600 pesos for a quick taxi to Malate. After all, time is money.
RG[/QUOTE]Correct, the queues fow the yellows are usually too big for me to bother hence I grab a normal Manila cab.
BTW, P600 is too much for NAIA <==> Malate.
AV
[QUOTE=Radical Guy; 1534627]I ususlly go for the meter-fare yellow taxis, but last time I arrived in Manila there was a line a mile long waiting for them (Terminal 3). So, I bit the bulet at paid 600 pesos for a quick taxi to Malate. After all, time is money.
RG[/QUOTE]One of the smartest comments posted here. Time is money! Sometimes I have more time than money and other times I have more money than time. I spend accordingly.
[QUOTE=Amavida; 1534693]Correct, the queues fow the yellows are usually too big for me to bother hence I grab a normal Manila cab.
BTW, P600 is too much for NAIA <== Malate.
AV[/QUOTE]Three to four times too much. Took a taxi from Resorts World, which is across the road from NAIA terminal 3, to Malate's Remedios Circle during weeknight rush hour and paid p150 including tip. The route was Andrews Ave to Roxas Blvd, and northbound traffic on Roxas was free flowing. The only "hassle" I had was when I got in I saw the meter was already running for a more than a minute, so I told the driver to reset it, which he did. Like others who have commented I too very rarely have had any problem with the drivers; the most frequent being, and it isn't, the guy forgetting to start the meter, which is almost always rectified when I tell him to do so. If not I exit.
Anyway, from the airport catch a taxi at the departures drop off area. I've never had to pay more than p50 above the metered fare; this was negotiated prior to my getting in.
I must have that "here is a sucker" look to me. Next time one of you studs is in Davao let me know so I can watch you walk across the water to Samal Island.
[QUOTE=Amavida; 1534693]Correct, the queues fow the yellows are usually too big for me to bother hence I grab a normal Manila cab.
BTW, P600 is too much for NAIA <== Malate.
AV[/QUOTE]Yeah, I knew I was getting ripped off, but no one in the white taxi lane was offering better, and I wanted to get to my hotel. I'm not going to sweat over 12 bucks.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1534670]I nodded then suggested " Pare, paki hinaan radyo mo " (please turn down the volume on your radio ). He looked with bug eyes and said " Sir, your not a tourist"[/QUOTE]Well done, FF. I can't do this in Tagalog but I can in a couple other SE Asian languages and the effect is almost always the same. The guy suddenly looks at you in a whole different way and everything is cool. It's a great argument for anyone living in this part of the world to buckle down a bit and study the language. The rewards are more than worth it, and that's even before we get to dealing with the girls.
I offered a driver 100 to take me to my home 8 blocks away with meter off because there was traffic. Asshole wanted 200. Study the language? They learn "fuck you" very quickly. Then they go down the street with no fare.
[QUOTE=Radical Guy;1534812]Yeah, I knew I was getting ripped off, but no one in the white taxi lane was offering better, and I wanted to get to my hotel. I'm not going to sweat over 12 bucks.[/QUOTE]I'm now getting in the habit of having the hotel pick me up at the airport. Its p600-800, which is more expensive than the yellow taxi's or white vans. But there is no wait time, and there's a driver waiting just for me. Small tater's when you think about the frequency.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1534854]I'm now getting in the habit of having the hotel pick me up at the airport. Its p600-800, which is more expensive than the yellow taxi's or white vans. But there is no wait time, and there's a driver waiting just for me. Small tater's when you think about the frequency.[/QUOTE]Perhaps it is a corporate rate, but I think I only pay p400 from one of those private car companies you find outside terminal 1 on the other side of the arrivals exit. I always use Nissan and it is hassle and worry free. Have any of you guys tried them?
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1534670]Not having your 17 years, but having had 5 there and countless visits, I'd second what RK and GE has said. I usually throw a little Tagalog in at the begining just so we all know the score.
One day I didn't do this and the driver started telling me he couldn't use the meter as it was a public holiday and that taxis were exempt from meter useage on such days. I nodded then suggested " Pare, paki hinaan radyo mo " (please turn down the volume on your radio ). He looked with bug eyes and said " Sir, your not a tourist" I replied no, he smiled, put the meter on and we both had a laugh and a joke. Thats the only rip off attempt I can recall.[/QUOTE]Having lived in the Phil's for five years now, I share your views. Rarely, and I mean I think I can count with two hands, the total number of times I have had an issue with a taxi guy. Perhaps Slippery had a bad experience as described. But then the venting seems somewhat overkill. Life's too short to get heated over a small thing like a taxi. Or maybe I'm too easy going.
I'd say I encounter a dishonest taxi driver at least once a week. Not wanting to use the meter or insisting on well over the generous amount I have offered are the general problems. Then there are those that just don't know where they're going.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1535429]I'd say I encounter a dishonest taxi driver at least once a week. Not wanting to use the meter or insisting on well over the generous amount I have offered are the general problems. Then there are those that just don't know where they're going.[/QUOTE]Its all part of the rich tapestry of life in the PI. One day on a taxi trip Quezon city <= NAIA the driver stops half way & asks me to get out."I don't know the way sir". I knew but he wouldn't listen. He didn't ask fare. I hailed another cab & continued on my way for half what I should have paid. Another day in the Phil's.
AV
I will clearly admit that I do not have a clue about the Pinay mind. Had a small tiff with the teaser who was expecting me to plunge her wet depths so I used this as an opportunity to engage a 3 some. I advised Tease I was doing so in blunt terms and she wanted to attend to watch to "test" herself, I declined as I was worried about being shot or knifed or both. She is only 90 lbs but kinda scary in a "carrie" way.
Did the deed posted some pics and in the AM after a repeat sent them packing. Pics attached.
Tease wanted to show up DESPITE knowing full well what I have accomplished with "2 low class working girls", so she took a 1. 5 hour bus ride, brought me a gift, upon her arrival it took all of 10 minutes to bring her to her first of 5 orgasms. She then spent the rest of the afternoon with me.
Flew home to my part time filipina GF / FWB and it took about 5 minutes to get her going after fully confessing to having strayed multiple times just as I told her I would. I think her brain is mad but her pussy is happy. Thank you Pinoys for being such terrible lovers and women abusers!
Filipinas are either the best GFs in the world or the ones with the least self esteem.
4 girls in 26 hours in 2 countries is a pretty good day for this old guy, although my prior high was 6 in 36 hours in 2 countries.
PP
You know your getting fucked by a Cab Driver when your Pinay escort is telling them to fuck off!
Try this solution:
You get in, you say meter, he says 400 (you know it is 120 regularly) smile and say OK.
Arrive get out, throw 120 on the seat and smile and say OK and walk away.
NEVER EVER give in to a blackmailer.
I always tip the cabbies 20. 50 % when they are proper. The girls NEVER give them even 2 pesos, its funny.
PP
[QUOTE=Wjmpsr;1534020]I found myself in Manila today for the first time in awhile, but I was quickly reminded of the reasons I do not like it here. Upon arrival on a domestic flight I collected my bags and proceeded to grab a cab. Some guy came up to me and offered his services. Upon consulting his official price list he quoted me 750 php to my hotel which is not far from the us embassy. I declined and strolled to Bay 19 and took a metered yellow cab which cost 206 php. I checked in and grabbed a cab to Robinson's Mall for a bite to eat, cab fare was 54php. I ate in a nice Filipino restaruant in front of Friday's. A western man around 50 came in for lunch accompanied by his target, a young woman accompanied by 5 relatives. They eagerly grabbed the menu's and this poor sucker was going to pick up the tab for all. Upon leaving we grabbed another cab who asked for 100 php to take me back to my hotel. I declined and asked him to turn on the meter, he declined and asked me to exit his cab which I did. The next cab driver turned on the meter and drove me back for 54 php, I was happy to give him a 100 as he was nice and honest. I am no expert on human behavior or body English, but it was so obvious the girl was going to soak the poor sucker in the restaruant, and her family were displaying none of the common decency displayed by most Filipinos. I can only assume she was a Cherry Blossom find (etc) , there are thousands of nice girls here with nice family's, though they all wil want at least some of your money, her tits looked like foam to me anyway. No need to wine and dine her low life family, stick to p4p, it can be cheaper.[/QUOTE]I have staff in Manila none of whom I sleep with (anymore.) they arrived for a meeting the other day I am pretty sure they had not eaten since the last time I fed them. 2300 pesos for 4 of us and no liquor, all had desert, I feel what the hell as I make a good living of their work while paying them well.
Point is I think they are just hungry, just like when I worked with First nations people here, I learned to feed them first if I wanted to accomplish anything at all.
2nd point who the FUCK would ever want to meet the family?
PP
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder; 1535546]You know your getting fucked by a Cab Driver when your Pinay escort is telling them to fuck off!
Try this solution:
You get in, you say meter, he says 400 (you know it is 120 regularly) smile and say OK.
Arrive get out, throw 120 on the seat and smile and say OK and walk away.
NEVER EVER give in to a blackmailer.
I always tip the cabbies 20-50% when they are proper. The girls NEVER give them even 2 pesos, its funny.
PP[/QUOTE]Sorry, but that has to be one of the worst advice I have read here. You don't say yes / agree and then pay less later. If you don't agree, get out of the cab and look for another one. Use your head guys.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder; 1535554]I have staff in Manila none of whom I sleep with (anymore.) they arrived for a meeting the other day I am pretty sure they had not eaten since the last time I fed them. 2300 pesos for 4 of us and no liquor, all had desert, I feel what the hell as I make a good living of their work while paying them well.
Point is I think they are just hungry, just like when I worked with First nations people here, I learned to feed them first if I wanted to accomplish anything at all.
2nd point who the FUCK would ever want to meet the family?
PP[/QUOTE]Why did you reply to me with a quote, I can not make a connection between your reply and my original post.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1535429]I'd say I encounter a dishonest taxi driver at least once a week. Not wanting to use the meter or insisting on well over the generous amount I have offered are the general problems. Then there are those that just don't know where they're going.[/QUOTE]Wow Slip. I rarely have the dishonest or no-meter problem. On occasion a driver doesn't know where he's going, and we stop and ask directions. My last issue was mid-2013, Malate-Makati, heavy traffic. Halfway thru, I noticed the meter was off. I asked the driver to turn it on, and he asked for an exorbitant amount. I offered meter + 100 and he declined, repeating his offer. When the car came to a gridlock stop in traffic, I just stepped out of the taxi, and with the passenger door open I made the offer again. He thought about it too long, so I closed the door and walked 2 blocks and got another taxi (metered for the rest of the trip, + tip). On behalf of all tourists, I'd like to thank that first driver for a free trip. Had he mentioned the exorbitant price when I got into the taxi, or asked for some extra pesos for the long trip, this could have been avoided. I take a [I]lot [/I]of taxis in Manila / Cebu, and I'm as gringo-looking as can be. There is little sympathy on my part for drivers who purposely don't turn on the meter without discussing it with me first (it simply means he was about to hit me at the end of the trip with the exorbitant price).
Good move. I caution drivers that the meter is for their protection. It's their proof of fare. If the meter reads zero, that's what the passenger owes. If they have any doubts, we can call the LTFRB. More commonly nowadays in Manila, the meter is already running when you get in. If you have any doubt, get him to reset it. Finally, don't get too much on your high horse. Driving is stressful, and some of them carry guns.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1535653]Wow Slip. I rarely have the dishonest or no-meter problem. On occasion a driver doesn't know where he's going, and we stop and ask directions. My last issue was mid-2013, Malate-Makati, heavy traffic. Halfway thru, I noticed the meter was off. I asked the driver to turn it on, and he asked for an exorbitant amount. I offered meter + 100 and he declined, repeating his offer. When the car came to a gridlock stop in traffic, I just stepped out of the taxi, and with the passenger door open I made the offer again. He thought about it too long, so I closed the door and walked 2 blocks and got another taxi (metered for the rest of the trip, + tip). On behalf of all tourists, I'd like to thank that first driver for a free trip. Had he mentioned the exorbitant price when I got into the taxi, or asked for some extra pesos for the long trip, this could have been avoided. I take a [I]lot [/I]of taxis in Manila / Cebu, and I'm as gringo-looking as can be. There is little sympathy on my part for drivers who purposely don't turn on the meter without discussing it with me first (it simply means he was about to hit me at the end of the trip with the exorbitant price).[/QUOTE]
I heard from a few sources that girls are available in Manila and AC for 200 Php ST and 500 Php LT.
Where and how these deals are available? I prefer to stay in Manila, find a good-looking girl and take her to Cebu.
Are the girls young, OK looking, drugs and diseases free?
Would appreciate more info.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1535738]I heard from a few sources that girls are available in Manila and AC for 200 Php ST and 500 Php LT.
Where and how these deals are available? I prefer to stay in Manila, find a good-looking girl and take her to Cebu.
Are the girls young, OK looking, drugs and diseases free?
Would appreciate more info.[/QUOTE]What sources did you get this info from? Please read the AC thread.
Especially in stop and go heavy traffic in Manila, driving taxi can be very stressful and fatiguing. Most of the older taxi drivers I met had their muscles atrophied down to pretty much bare bones, most likely due to poor blood circulation under stress, and sitting in the cars all day with little exercise.
I was carpooling with a couple guys to work, about 1 hour in stop-and-go freeway traffic everyday. The stop-and-go actions would pump up the adrenaline then let it down, causing severe stress in the nerve system and the muscles. Most guys cannot drive more than 2 days in a row without having the deep mental and physical fatigue, such that there is no strength left to do any mental or physical work. Everyone dreads the hour-long drive to work, well, except a young, body builder strong as an ox. He can drive 7 days a week and feels fine.
Taxi in Manila is pretty cheap, at least compared to what I would have to pay in the US. I hired a taxi to search a few fishbowls all over Ermita and Makati, driving and waiting for about an hour. At the end back at the hotel with a very pretty young girl in my arms, the driver wanted 500 Php which was about US$12. Knowing their rates, that was a very generous offer for him.
Some bros reported routine trips from AC to Manila's Aquino Int Airport, a distance over 50 miles and potentially 2 to 3 hours depending on traffic, all for 2500 Php or about US$60. The driver have to make round trip drive of about 120 miles, which would cost him about 6 gallon of gas or about US$30 so he earns $30 for half a day work.
It's a very hard life to make a living driving taxis anywhere. It helps to empathize and reduce stress for taxi drivers. Chances are you can get to where want to go safely, quickly and cheaply.
Well, this strategy did not work in Bangkok. The damn young driver claimed he did not know directions from Sukkhumvit to the tourists' Khaosan area on the Chaophraya river. He was wandering around all over Bangkok, stopping to ask locals for directions, gazing at the sky, scratching his ass. He pissed me off and I gave him peanuts.
Youtube had a recent video of a dispute between a farang and his Bangkok taxi driver. After a bit of creaming and yelling, the driver took a long machete from his trunk, chased down the passenger and drove it all the way through the back of his chest. The guy died instantly on the street in a big oozing pool of blood. Lot of passer-bys just walked right past the dying guy, without being concerned or upset by the violence.
SHIT. Taxi drivers probably have the most bad days of all occupations.
[QUOTE=Cbea20;1535664]Good move. I caution drivers that the meter is for their protection. It's their proof of fare. If the meter reads zero, that's what the passenger owes. If they have any doubts, we can call the LTFRB. More commonly nowadays in Manila, the meter is already running when you get in. If you have any doubt, get him to reset it. Finally, don't get too much on your high horse. Driving is stressful, and some of them carry guns.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1535822]Especially in stop and go heavy traffic in Manila, driving taxi can be very stressful and fatiguing. Most of the older taxi drivers I met had their muscles atrophied down to pretty much bare bones, most likely due to poor blood circulation under stress, and sitting in the cars all day with little exercise.[/QUOTE]And poor diet, sleeping on a hard floor amidst six or eight other family members and tenants, and living in (everyday, all day long) very close quarters with millions of other poor Filipinos.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1535738]I heard from a few sources that girls are available in Manila and AC for 200 Php ST and 500 Php LT.
Where and how these deals are available? I prefer to stay in Manila, find a good-looking girl and take her to Cebu.
Are the girls young, OK looking, drugs and diseases free?
Would appreciate more info.[/QUOTE]Sure. You can pick up 200 pesos a pop chicks in Manila. Here is an example of what you would get. Gentlemen, form an orderly queue!
Hi Cunning Stunt.
Congrats for having such a beauty for girl friend and thank you for showing her picture.
You must enjoy her toothless blow job techniques a few times a day.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1535905]Sure. You can pick up 200 pesos a pop chicks in Manila. Here is an example of what you would get. Gentlemen, form an orderly queue![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1535822]Some bros reported routine trips from AC to Manila's Aquino Int Airport, a distance over 50 miles and potentially 2 to 3 hours depending on traffic, all for 2500 Php or about US$60. The driver have to make round trip drive of about 120 miles, which would cost him about 6 gallon of gas or about US$30 so he earns $30 for half a day work.[/QUOTE]Given that the metro Manila minimum wage is officially p466 per 8-hour day his $30 earnings for 4-6 hours of work isn't that bad. But this "big payday" is not all what it seems. Keep in mind that the guy has to lease the taxi at approx. P1500 per day too, so it appears he's making very little, and perhaps even losing money, on that Angeles run if he doesn't find a return passenger. Drivers typically work a 24-hour day-on / day-off shift, most starting at 6am. If you're taking a long journey in the wee hours keep an eye on your driver to make sure he doesn't drift off.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1535914]Congrats for having such a beauty for girl friend and thank you for showing her picture.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. Don't mention it. Purely an example of the delights which await the cheapo's on ISG looking for shoestring pokes.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1535905]Sure. You can pick up 200 pesos a pop chicks in Manila. Here is an example of what you would get. Gentlemen, form an orderly queue![/QUOTE]What a find, amazing. So many choices in this wide wide world!
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1535905]Here is an example of what you would get. Gentlemen, form an orderly queue![/QUOTE]How'd you get a picture of my exwife?
WC
Your ex-wife was voted the beauty queen of Manila's Terminal AIDS University.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1; 1535976]How'd you get a picture of my exwife?
WC[/QUOTE]
I realize cabbies still have to pay rent for the taxis, which leaves them little profit.
A 24-hour continuous driving shift can be very dangerous. The drivers would be half asleep after 12 hours. They can cause big accidents. Man. It is a very hard life, having to drive 24 hours straight everyday to make a living.
I was at San Jose Int Airport in Silicon Valley. A lot of people are using smart phone to hire independent cabs managed by a few internet companies. They all drive the very fuel.efficient and big Toyota Hybrid Prius. While there were plenty of normal cabs waiting around the terminal, the passengers were willing to wait fairly long for the indy cabs to show up, like half hour.
Apparently they must be much cheaper than the normal taxis without having to pay for license and rents for the cabs. Taxi drivers unions are all pissed off at these newbies stealing the food off their mouths. A few cities have started looking into the legal status of web-based taxis.
So may be some smart guys in Manila would stop pounding his pregnant Pinay GF for a few hours and try the same trick setting up independent web-based taxis for huge profits.
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1535937]Given that the metro Manila minimum wage is officially p466 per 8-hour day his $30 earnings for 4-6 hours of work isn't that bad. But this "big payday" is not all what it seems. Keep in mind that the guy has to lease the taxi at approx. P1500 per day too, so it appears he's making very little, and perhaps even losing money, on that Angeles run if he doesn't find a return passenger. Drivers typically work a 24-hour day-on / day-off shift, most starting at 6am. If you're taking a long journey in the wee hours keep an eye on your driver to make sure he doesn't drift off.[/QUOTE]
i arrived late friday night in manila and headed straight to la cafe, which it is officially renamed to now. on the way i could not help but smell the stench of human [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url], ermita is a filthy place indeed. on the way to la cafe i was propositioned many times by the street working girls and one went as far as to lift her dress and flash her pussy at me, but i was on a mission. i might say that the quality of the street working girls was not to bad as well. didn't ask what price.
i have read the earlier reports and i have to say i was blown away by the quality of the chicks there. obviously the quality varies but i was very impressed indeed. i was too tired to try and hire a girl for the night, i thought it would be a waste of money because i had been flying all day and i was fucked. so after a couple of beers i headed back to the hotel. i wanted to got to the nightclub zzyzx, but i was just too wrecked. so i am walking back to the room and a classy looking pro latches onto me and she iis like, no cost if i don't enjoy myself, so i say how much and she is like 1500 and i decided that it was fate so i said 100 and she said ok.
headed back to the room, through security, she handed in her id and we headed to the room. i was fairly drunk but she looked ok so i fucked her and blow job and i fucked her arse, so when i finished, i offer her 2,000 for good service and then things went downhill. she's like,"give me 3,500", you fucked my arse, you did not use condom, you come in pussy, blah blah blah. i was astonished at how aggressive she was. she threatens to report me to the police, blah blah blah. luckily i was in a one bedroom apartment and the bedroom, with my cash and belongings was lockable, and it was locked. so i was not overly worried about theft. i just wanted her to fuck off so i could get some sleep. she was refusing to leave the room, eventually she agreed to leave the room and go talk to the security guy. i had to leave first, not sure why but she followed and we go to the security guard, she starts yabbering on in filipino. i just left them and went back to get some sleep.
woke up the next morning and nothing, so sweet, i owe the guard a 100 tip. checked in and i was chatting with the owner and i mentioned that i had a little trouble the previous night, she knew all about it, of course. the funny thing was she is like,"you have to be more careful who you bring back," so they don't give a rats arse. i am the customer and that is who they look after, lols.
i had a couple of people to meet via dia and fb. i burned one when i saw a recent photo of her, i refused to meet with her untill she sent me a recent photo, and i am please that i did because she was not worth meeting. so i moved onto the next target, a fb contact. i met her eventually, i must say that never to agree to meet in rizel park, its just too damn big. i walked through robinsons on the way to the park and a short middle aged bloke fell in beside me and started chatting. has a sister in perth, yaddaa yadda. i tell him i am going to meet someone and then he tells me he is a pimp and he has girls upstairs. so girls in robinsones ermita is confirmed. my fb date bought a niece with her and she was stunningly beautiful, she was 22. so we had lunch then i sent them home. met her again with an ugly aunty for dinner. agreed to meet the next day without a chaperon. i have to tell you she was drop dead gorgeous.
i spent the morning in intermuros, which is well worth a visit btw. met her in the afternoon and i took her back to the hotel and, no action. refused to even kiss, i was pretty angry so we left and went to mall of asia (which i did not like, too big). i got over it and decided it was probably better this way, she was a terrible texter wanting to know what i was doing every 5 minute and i thought, far too much maintenance. so we had dinner, went to zzyzx. she had several drinks and asked me to massage her hands, so the action got pretty steamy. she agrees to come back to my room. we get to the guard and i say to the guard, i think she should go home in a taxi. it was there on a plate, but i sent her home. i don't regret it. i went to cebu and she was nutty with incessant texting and tears. she would have been out of control if i had fucked her.
funny side note, i met her in tgif in robinsons, were sitting next to each other, she is sooo attractive and the street working girl from the first night walks by, she looked daggers at me. pissed her off big time. really made my night.
on one of my trips during the day a street walker approached me and she was very cute, i was on my way somewhere and so i said, give me you phone number. she said she didn't have a phone. man people are sooo poor there, i have never met a hooker who does not have a phone before. in la cafe the girls have basic old mobiles. so they are truely poor.
i really enjoyed manila, unlike my first visit 10 years ago. sex is available everywhere. great time. i think i will return and spend more time there next time.
Hi all
I am in Manila for 3 weeks starting tomorrow. Would appreciate any independent contacts / happy massage leads through PM. Can reciprocate for Singapore / Mumbai cities.
Thanks,
Andy
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1536078]So may be some smart guys in Manila would stop pounding his pregnant Pinay GF for a few hours and try the same trick setting up independent web-based taxis for huge profits.[/QUOTE]I don't know how independent they are but web-based taxis already exist, [url]http://grabtaxi.com/manila-philippines/[/url]. The surcharge is p70, and there may also be a charge levied by the mobile service provider. They aren't widely available yet. My driver told me it costs the driver or, more likely, the fleet owner p1500 to fit out the taxi. The driver needs a smartphone and always-on Internet service for it, too. For many it's a bridge too far.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1536078]I realize cabbies still have to pay rent for the taxis, which leaves them little profit.
A 24-hour continuous driving shift can be very dangerous. The drivers would be half asleep after 12 hours. They can cause big accidents. Man. It is a very hard life, having to drive 24 hours straight everyday to make a living.
I was at San Jose Int Airport in Silicon Valley. A lot of people are using smart phone to hire independent cabs managed by a few internet companies. They all drive the very fuel. Efficient and big Toyota Hybrid Prius. While there were plenty of normal cabs waiting around the terminal, the passengers were willing to wait fairly long for the indy cabs to show up, like half hour.
Apparently they must be much cheaper than the normal taxis without having to pay for license and rents for the cabs. Taxi drivers unions are all pissed off at these newbies stealing the food off their mouths. A few cities have started looking into the legal status of web-based taxis.
So may be some smart guys in Manila would stop pounding his pregnant Pinay GF for a few hours and try the same trick setting up independent web-based taxis for huge profits.[/QUOTE]LS, you & H are right, its a tough way to earn a living as a driver. I always advise against hiring a street cab to go to AC. Use a hotel car. More expensive but clean, safe, hassle free.
I researched the taxi industry whilst back in Oz with a view to having a little fleet in Manila. Its profitable for us owners but tough for drivers. Last time I checked daily leases in Manila were north of P1600 + gas. Don't forget breakdowns, fines & food.
Drivers need their wits about them & a little luck.
Honest, clean, friendly drivers get tips which helps a lot. I'm constantly surprised how many drivers don't get this.
All over the world cab companies are a franchise. In the west trying to work outside these franchises will quickly get you on the receiving end of expensive litigation. In Manila doing so will find you on the receiving end of a couple of. 45 cal pistol slugs to the brain from a passing motorcycle. I'll pass on that one. Business is tough in hyper competitive Asia.
AV
[QUOTE=Slippery;1534831]Asshole wanted 200. Study the language? They learn "fuck you" very quickly.[/QUOTE]It might feel good to say "fuck you" but it doesn't achieve anything. You don't get a ride and the driver doesn't go off and think, hey you know, that guy was right. All he thinks is "Fuck you too, fucking porreigner".
Watch the locals (because once in a while the drivers try it on them too) or the old-hand expats. They'll say a few words, usually with a bit of humor, and often the driver will just switch on the meter. If he doesn't, no problem, they just move on to the next cab without saying another word.
I can't think of anywhere in S. E. Asia where there's an advantage into getting upset over a driver who won't do what you want him to do in his own cab. Making a fuss over something like this is classic bull-in-a-China-shop Western newbie behavior. It doesn't impress anyone.
Not sure how much I can add here since I'm a newbie in Manila and there are a lot of veterans here. But since I got some good advice before my trip, I think it's only right to share my experiences.
I don't travel primarily for mongering-but I'm fortunate enough to love my work and to be able to choose my travel destinations based on the possibilities for after-hours fun. Really my favorite destination is Germany. I love the efficiency of the FKK clubs, and I really love tall, thin Eastern European girls. But sometimes it's a bit too easy, and maybe somewhat cold. So I thought Manila would be a good spot.
I'm often quite busy with work during the day, and this trip was no exception. Unfortunately my work is also a bit unpredictable, so I might not know for sure what time I'll be finished on any given day.
I started working DIA and FC a week or two before my trip, and I had emails and phone numbers for a dozen or so girls. But in the end I only met one. And she was a "good" girl. I'm sure I could have worked the situation, but she was also on the other side of town. I also got the distinct feeling that she would have been a handful if I fucked her. I'm not looking for intimacy or a relationship. I want good sex and I want them to leave without a hassle. I'm not looking to fall in love and I rarely repeat unless a girl is really amazing. I like variety.
In the end I spent most of my time at MBC, but I also picked up a few girls at Robinson's Mall. I'm not going to go through a play-by-play, I spent two weeks there and fucked 18 different girls, I just repeated with two who I will mention below.
I really like MBC, but then I like freelance bars in general. It's a crazy place that everyone should visit at least once. The girls range from 1's to some really solid 9's if you look hard. The hottest girls seem to hang out either upstairs or in the room down the hallway to the right from the main bar area. The hottest girls there seem a bit standoffish or cold at first. Often they congregate around the Korean guys. One girl clued me in to the rule of three-they have 3-inch dicks, they pay 3000 pesos and they are done in 3 minutes. (This was told to me by a girl, I'm not making any statements about the sexual prowess of Korean guys, since I have no first-hand information on the topic.) If there are no Koreans around, these a-list girls congregate in groups and sit around talking amongst themselves.
My first day or two I ended up somewhat frustrated. I mean I pulled sweet girls, but not the hottest ones. I sat there turning down the constant stream of ugly girls and ended up sitting alone. And it's like any real club, the hot girls aren't going to approach a loser sitting alone. After a few days I made friends with some of the bartenders (some of whom are really hot, BTW). I also got over my fear of rejection and would just approach the groups of hot girls to chat them up. They are real people, not automated hookers, so if you're fun and interesting and if you engage them in conversation, you can pull any girl in the place and you'll have a great time.
I was staying at the Best Western La Corona down the street, but I decided I wanted to limit, somewhat, the number of girls I brought back. Not because of any rules at the hotel, the hotel was fine with girls. But I knew some of my work colleagues might occasionally be at or near my hotel, and I didn't want any crazy girls around. So I generally read the situation and if I thought a girl might be crazy, high-maintenance or a problem, I took her to a short-time hotel.
If you walk out of MBC and turn to your left, a few doors down there is a pretty nice hourly hotel. It's almost next door, there is a hallway that leads into the building and no sign. The girls mostly know the place, though a few of the newbie girls don't. It was 400 pesos for three hours. The place was very clean and I had no problems. Went over time once or twice and no one cared.
Most of the girls at MBC will ask for 2-3000 pesos. The hot ones will at least. But almost all will take 1500, at least in my experience. I am 35, not too ugly, they liked my tattoos, etc. So YMMV. But I'm not rich and not extremely good looking either. So I think my experiences were normal.
Anyway, I ended up with some really pretty girls, and at least two who were solid 9's. One, was very slim with large natural tits and a really pretty face. She was amazing. The first time we went to the short-time hotel next door. She was obviously a bit new at this, but she was a great fuck and everything was on the menu. She never talked money and I gave her 2000 since she was so good. I met her three days before I left, and I ended up spending my last two nights with her too. Second night she came back to my hotel and spent the night. After some great sex before bed and in the morning, I totally forgot to pay her, and she didn't ask. I felt really bad but I didn't realize it until a while after she left. On the last night I expected her to be pissed at me, but she said nothing about it and was very passionate. It's a good thing I was leaving the next day since I easily could have fallen for that girl. She gave me her number and cried when I told her I was leaving. She didn't ask for money again but I slipped 3K into her purse when she left. She texted me all the next day until my plane took off. Ok, I kind of did fall for her which I never do with a working girl.
My other notable MBC experience was with one of the waitresses. She was really cute and I had to work her for more than a week, but it eventually paid off.
Other than MBC, I picked up a few girls at Robinson's mall. There are a few obvious streetwalkers in front of the mall. A few were doable, but I never bothered. Also some looked to be ladyboys. I found the girls in Manila to be very approachable and kind in general. I picked up one waitress at Fridays just by chatting her up. After she got off work we walked around a bit then she came back to the hotel and spent the night. Again, no money asked for, but I gave her 2k. We repeated a few days later on her day off, we actually spend the day together since I was not working, then had a fun night.
I met another few girls just walking around and had similar experiences. One thing I never managed to do was get one of those cute little Robinson's department store girls. I wanted one to wear her uniform, but no luck. I'm sure management frowns on such things, or maybe they just didn't like me.
The other thing I never managed to do was make it to other parts of Manila. It's kind of a pain to get around. And if you try to get a taxi to another part of town in the evening, it can be difficult. Some outright refuse and some want large amounts of cash. One day I planned to check out Makati but I gave up after the first few taxi drivers said no or wanted a huge fare. I'm sure it's easier at other times of day, but when I finished work in the early evening it was very difficult.
I do somewhat regret not checking out some of the other mongering spots. But there's always next time. I had a great time and can't wait to return.
Likemflat, Your info here will help me much when I work the Manila action for the first time come this May. I especially like your info regarding the finer babes in Manila. This is where my game plan always breaks down. I have been to Cebu a few times and there are some real fine ones working the Mango Bars but they just play me for drinks. I have taken one or two back to the hotel and they will just quit on me as soon as we get started. I have brought more than one back to the bar and there is no manager so no refund or credit. It is really fucked.
At the Cebu bars the Ks get the special treatment and all the filipinas trip all over themselves to be picked by the K guys. Here I am, looking good (albeit 61, but still in good shape) sipping my drink and giving them the "come over here look" but am ignored. Then if I do get action I am played for a sucker (which I do very well on occasion) buying drinks and getting led on. When I do realize I'm being played I express my displeasure and go for plan # 2, which is the nearest cute 6. I really want the hotties so your optimism (re; the 9's) is very good to hear. Be patient haha, I think throwing money at them might be another option. So work the hotties no matter how you feel, just go for it, haha, I like that game plan.
Your whole report is very honest and helpful for a monger like me. I am not into misleading DIA girls into my bed by deception and I would never reward a good fuck w / a measly 200p, WTF will 200p do for her? I assume that some DIA girls know it's about casual sex so DIA is a good option if no deception required. For me I'll stick w / the clubs and the malls.
Looking forward to finally walking into the LA Cafe after reading about it for years.
I like your style but wish you had taken a few pics.
Thanks Again.
Here are the 2 that quit on me after a huge effort on my part. Maybe I gave them too much camera? They just quit and they were extraordinary in their own ways, believe me. It still pisses me off 3 years later.
Both worked at the Mango St bars, the very little one was still there last Feb 2013 and she was spent. I would not be into her now, but in the pic she was a super hot spinner, very pretty. The other was very shapely, sex appeal was just dripping off her, and soon after these pics, real gone. Both ladies were w/ me in my Parklane hotel room for about 15 minutes. haha
I wonder if this shit happens to anyone else? Probably just me, haha, ayyyyyy....
[QUOTE=Betong; 1536943]It might feel good to say "fuck you" but it doesn't achieve anything. You don't get a ride and the driver doesn't go off and think, hey you know, that guy was right. All he thinks is "Fuck you too, fucking porreigner".
Watch the locals (because once in a while the drivers try it on them too) or the old-hand expats. They'll say a few words, usually with a bit of humor, and often the driver will just switch on the meter. If he doesn't, no problem, they just move on to the next cab without saying another word.
I can't think of anywhere in S. E. Asia where there's an advantage into getting upset over a driver who won't do what you want him to do in his own cab. Making a fuss over something like this is classic bull-in-a-China-shop Western newbie behavior. It doesn't impress anyone.[/QUOTE]LIKE. Every word you say is so true.
[QUOTE=Ccntesz;1534639]I tried searching and rtfm but could not find my answer. I'm visiting MNL again and trying to decide where to stay. I really had good luck with EDSA last time and MBC was hit and miss. My question is how early do the bars open at EDSA?[/QUOTE]Could you please clarify what MBC stands for & where is it located.
Thanks,
BD
[QUOTE=Bull Dozer; 1537293]Could you please clarify what MBC stands for & where is it located.
Thanks,
BD[/QUOTE]MBC = Manila Bay Cafe. Now just called La Cafe. As to where it is located? Why don't you do some reading of the forum pages. Or make the search on your own. That is what is generally done. And you'll find out.
the mayor's new plan to limit 8 wheeled trucks from the city between 5am to 9pm is working. despite protests from truckers, trucking companies and the port, traffic time has been reduced dramatically. in some areas traffic is moving at the speed limits. if there is such limits. today at 11:00am i went by taxi from makati to angeles and did not encounter one traffic jam. almost like it was unbelievable. trip took less than 90 minutes and he had stopped for gas along the way. traffic on edsa was moving right along. come to think about it, i don't recall any cars honking either.
hope the mayor is strong enough to fight off the trucking interests to keep it on the 6 month trial period. some of the manila traffic nightmares might be gone. as least for a while.
I've lived here for over a year now and if it happened only once a week it would be about 60 times. Move on to the next cab? There's no taxi line out there. I only see those at the airport and malls. Maybe it has something to do with being a white guy?
[QUOTE=Bull Dozer; 1537293]Could you please clarify what MBC stands for & where is it located.
Thanks,
BD[/QUOTE]I do this as you are a senior member. Corner of Del Pilar and Salas in Ermita. Be careful of the neighborhood.
[QUOTE=Bull Dozer; 1537293]Could you please clarify what MBC stands for & where is it located.
Thanks, BD[/QUOTE]Or consider doing a simple google search for either Manila Bay Cafe or LA Cafe, Manila. You will find address and related map and several interesting youtube videos.
[QUOTE=Socker;1537199]At the Cebu bars the Ks get the special treatment and all the filipinas trip all over themselves to be picked by the K guys. Here I am, looking good (albeit 61, but still in good shape) sipping my drink and giving them the "come over here look" but am ignored.[/QUOTE]You can't really blame the girls, the Korean guys I saw tended to be young, good-looking and they seemed to be fun. The main thing that I learned is that while these are working girls to be sure, they're also human. So they like to have fun. If you approach one or a group, chat them up, and if you're polite and entertaining, you probably won't be rejected. I was never rejected if I approached a girl. But in the beginning I found I could wave, stare or otherwise try to make contact from a distance, and they would just ignore me or smile and move on. But again, they were all really kind and fun once I approached them.
The place is an experience to be sure. I forgot to mention. You might find some good girls during the day and afternoon, but really the scene is better at night. Also, the upstairs is charging a 200 peso entry fee, and for the most part it's not worth it unless you want to listen to the band.
[QUOTE=Socker;1537199]I am not into misleading DIA girls into my bed by deception and I would never reward a good fuck w / a measly 200p, WTF will 200p do for her? I assume that some DIA girls know it's about casual sex so DIA is a good option if no deception required. For me I'll stick w / the clubs and the malls.[/QUOTE]I agree. Now there are some girls on DIA and FC who are just looking for fun. But personally I don't want to mislead a girl and lie to her to get her in bed, especially when there are so many other easier options. One girl from DIA did offer me a massage in my hotel room, but our schedules never matched up.
[QUOTE=Socker;1537199]I like your style but wish you had taken a few pics.[/QUOTE]Yeah, sorry about that. I'm used to places like the German FKK clubs where cameras are strictly forbidden so I'm just not in the habit. Taking pictures would be fun, so I'll have to bring a camera next time.
[quote=dg8787; 1537414]the mayor's new plan to limit 8 wheeled trucks from the city between 5am to 9pm is working. despite protests from truckers, trucking companies and the port, traffic time has been reduced dramatically. in some areas traffic is moving at the speed limits. if there is such limits. today at 11:00am i went by taxi from makati to angeles and did not encounter one traffic jam. almost like it was unbelievable. trip took less than 90 minutes and he had stopped for gas along the way. traffic on edsa was moving right along. come to think about it, i don't recall any cars honking either.
hope the mayor is strong enough to fight off the trucking interests to keep it on the 6 month trial period. some of the manila traffic nightmares might be gone. as least for a while.[/quote]just read in this morning's paper the mayor buckled and modified the truck ban. loaded trucks are exempted from the ban hours but unloaded trucks are not. traffic will be back to a mess. seems self-interest or i mean paid self-interest is still the rule of the land.
[quote=dg8787; 1537414]the mayor's new plan to limit 8 wheeled trucks from the city between 5am to 9pm is working. despite protests from truckers, trucking companies and the port, traffic time has been reduced dramatically. in some areas traffic is moving at the speed limits. if there is such limits. today at 11:00am i went by taxi from makati to angeles and did not encounter one traffic jam. almost like it was unbelievable. trip took less than 90 minutes and he had stopped for gas along the way. traffic on edsa was moving right along. come to think about it, i don't recall any cars honking either.
hope the mayor is strong enough to fight off the trucking interests to keep it on the 6 month trial period. some of the manila traffic nightmares might be gone. as least for a while.[/quote]sounds great. my last trip three months ago it took 4+ hours to get to ac. freaking dreadful. it was so bad i have booked my flight next month into clark just to by-pass the traffic.
[QUOTE=Robbaf;1537739]Sounds great. My last trip three months ago it took 4+ hours to get to AC. Freaking dreadful. It was so bad I have booked my flight next month into Clark just to by-pass the traffic.[/QUOTE]Except, that, caving into pressure from the oligarchs, the position has recently changed again, so the window during which trucks may not operate has been narrowed though not closed. It took my slightly more than 20 minutes this morning to travel the 8 km. Between Makati and Ortigas, which isn't bad, aside from the two narrowly-missed accidents; one with a crazed bus driver and another with a taxi driver who was either high or trying to commit suicide by car.
GE
[QUOTE=Likemflat;1537527]Also, the upstairs is charging a 200 peso entry fee, and for the most part it's not worth it unless you want to listen to the band.[/QUOTE]Jeez, quite a rip off. Better to grab a girl and take her elsewhere, such as the Grill of Cowboy on Mabini. Last night I saw Aegis, one of the most famous bands here, at the Remedios Cowboy Grill. Excellent show. No cover charge. Booze is cheaper too.
Every Wednesday night in March the Mocha Girls (see youtube for videos) will be appearing at the Mabini Cowboy Grill. You and your girl will have a brilliant time.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1524654]Love your name mate. You have already struck a chord with CS.
You could head off to Metrowalk situated on Meralco Avenue. It is a good nightspot with live bands, and in the back left-hand corner up the escalator on the 2nd floor is I-SPA, a very well-run massage place (wellness center) LOL. It is not a fishbowl and you take who is next in line and I have never lucked out with a girl. If you request the I-SPA Signature tantric massage it costs 900 php (discount from 1000 php during the evening) and includes a HJ without any questions being asked. The girl will give you a good 45 minute massage on your back and then will flip you over and accommodate you. They will also offer a hot towel and a cup of hot tea or coffee too. They expect a tip but don't let them tell you they need extra for the HJ as it is part of the service but I always tip anyway as I am a repeat customer. No full service allowed on premises but I assume you could get a number for after she finishes if you find a willing one and you keep it VERY DISCREET (not discrete LOL) [/QUOTE]I tried the I-SPA massage. It was pretty much as described. The girl I got was called Yesha (not her real name). She was not that attractive. She gave an ok massage, but she pressed for 500 PHP extra for the hand job. She rejected all of my advances and wanted exorbitant sums for minor stuff (1000 for sucking my nipples? Give me a break). She would not meet up after work (neither would I, I was just doing research) , no BJ no matter what, etc etc. I expect I was unlucky with her. I don't know of other options around Ortigas, and it takes ridiculous amounts of time to travel to other places so I may give them another try anyway.
[QUOTE=Socker; 1537199]Likemflat, Your info here will help me much when I work the Manila action for the first time come this May. I especially like your info regarding the finer babes in Manila. This is where my game plan always breaks down. I have been to Cebu a few times and there are some real fine ones working the Mango Bars but they just play me for drinks. I have taken one or two back to the hotel and they will just quit on me as soon as we get started. I have brought more than one back to the bar and there is no manager so no refund or credit. It is really fucked.
At the Cebu bars the Ks get the special treatment and all the filipinas trip all over themselves to be picked by the K guys. Here I am, looking good (albeit 61, but still in good shape) sipping my drink and giving them the "come over here look" but am ignored. Then if I do get action I am played for a sucker (which I do very well on occasion) buying drinks and getting led on...[/QUOTE]Hey Socker,
So I take it that you didn't have a good time in Cebu? Would you personally recommend it? I've been to Manila, Angeles, Pattaya, Bangkok and many more places several several several times but never Cebu and I was thinking about it. I'm a fairly attractive dude in my early 30's that enjoys GFE. Thanks for your insight and report brother!
Well. It's been awhile since I've been to Manila. Maybe a year? I usually enjoy MBC but it can be rough at times. Although there's about 50-80 girls, I wouldn't touch most of them with a stick LOL. Although I've found my share of diamonds in a pool full of toads, I usually settle for average girls who I think will offer me great service. The last girl I got, was pretty awful LOL. So shoot that theory down the drain. She tried to hide the fact that she was on her period, wanted to leave early because of her husband and I felt the service didn't justify the cost. I think the girls will go from 1500-3500 here. They usually start off at 3500 but they're pretty much expecting you to counter their offer. If you don't, they'll smell a sucker and take advantage of you all night long! Oh and during the day, I've actually found some young ones who are college students looking to make a quick buck without telling noone. #JackPot.
Although Burgos Street is hella expensive, I sometimes don't mind the price tag. I believe every girl I ever took out from this area has been amazing both looks and service wise! My memory is foggy but I think it runs for like 3-5000 pesos? Going to need a cross check from a vet on the prices.
At EDSA, I tried one girl and I didn't really enjoy so I've never gone back. The one girl I took seemed Hard, Cold and Jaded. If anyone can share positive GFExperiences, maybe I'll give this place another shot.
Maybe I should go back to Manila for a bit? Any thoughts fellas? I'm heavily leaning towards going to AC straight but I've done that the last 3 or 4 times LOL.
Good luck man and enjoy,
YG
Hey all. My frst time to Manila and I wanted your expertise on which location to stay at. I have heard about the traffic the horrible taxi ride and all that. I just want a good hotel. I can not compromise on that but something close to all the action. I know its spread out in manila but can some of you pro's recommend a hotel thats close to the action. I prefer 4 to 5 star. Only there for one night so want to make the most of it instead of riding in an endless taxi ride. Thanks all
[QUOTE=HimKoi;1540881]Hey all. My frst time to Manila and I wanted your expertise on which location to stay at. I have heard about the traffic the horrible taxi ride and all that. I just want a good hotel. I can not compromise on that but something close to all the action. I know its spread out in manila but can some of you pro's recommend a hotel thats close to the action. I prefer 4 to 5 star. Only there for one night so want to make the most of it instead of riding in an endless taxi ride. Thanks all[/QUOTE]Why not RTFF in the Manila Hotel Thread? Well anyways, why don't you stay at the Hyatt Regency? It's a 5 star hotel in a pretty good location. Or what about the Shangri-La? Another 5 star hotel in a good location.
Good luck,
YG
[QUOTE=HimKoi;1540881]Hey all. My frst time to Manila and I wanted your expertise on which location to stay at. I have heard about the traffic the horrible taxi ride and all that. I just want a good hotel. I can not compromise on that but something close to all the action. I know its spread out in manila but can some of you pro's recommend a hotel thats close to the action. I prefer 4 to 5 star. Only there for one night so want to make the most of it instead of riding in an endless taxi ride. Thanks all[/QUOTE]Which action? Makati (Havana Cafe, P Burgos street) , or Malate (LAC / G-Point / EDSA)? They are not close to each other.
You are asking a lot of hotel questions for a newb on multiple threads. Knock it off, RTTF, and send PM's to the gents you have questions for. Once you spend time there, write us up some detailed Field Reports about your experiences: girls, hotels, restaurants, nightlife, taxis, etc.
[QUOTE=HimKoi;1540881]Hey all. My frst time to Manila and I wanted your expertise on which location to stay at. I have heard about the traffic the horrible taxi ride and all that. I just want a good hotel. I can not compromise on that but something close to all the action. I know its spread out in manila but can some of you pro's recommend a hotel thats close to the action. I prefer 4 to 5 star. Only there for one night so want to make the most of it instead of riding in an endless taxi ride. Thanks all[/QUOTE]Hi HK,
Since you only have 1 night. Your primary focus should be Havana. I would recommend staying at Raffles or New World, Shangri La is nice but a slightly father walk back from Havana. If you want to, go to P. Burgos around 9pm just so you can say you went, see a few clubs have a few expensive drinks and leave before you have to buy too many lady drinks. Get a taxi back to Havana by 1030 at the latest. Go inside to the bar, order a drink, have fun. I prefer to have girls meet me at my hotel room in 10 minutes (front desk will call your room) rather than walk them back but that is just my style since I travel with co-workers. ST 1500. 2000 (depending on looks and negotiation). LT no more than 3000.
L2S
[QUOTE=HimKoi;1540881]Hey all. My frst time to Manila and I wanted your expertise on which location to stay at.[/QUOTE]Try agoda. Com and then read West Coast's post and the forum to see if you want to stay in Malate or Makati. If you only have one night and not on a budget I'd go with Makati.
I will be in Manila next Saturday for a layover. Does anyone know where I can go look (not online) for some company to take to hotel? Not those on the streets.
[QUOTE=Revolt;1541154]I will be in Manila next Saturday for a layover. Does anyone know where I can go look (not online) for some company to take to hotel? Not those on the streets.[/QUOTE]Yes, I do so do many who regularly post on this thread. I would suggest you RTFF as there is a wealth of information to help with your concerns etc. Also I noticed you have asked similar questions on other threads in the past so generally there is a give and take on the board that I and others have written about and the taking comes from the initial giving.
How long is the layover and what is the time frame? In the past people have recommended Air Force One. They have a web page.
[QUOTE=Revolt;1541154]I will be in Manila next Saturday for a layover. Does anyone know where I can go look (not online) for some company to take to hotel? Not those on the streets.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YG365; 1540560]Hey Socker,
So I take it that you didn't have a good time in Cebu? Would you personally recommend it? I've been to Manila, Angeles, Pattaya, Bangkok and many more places several several several times but never Cebu and I was thinking about it. I'm a fairly attractive dude in my early 30's that enjoys GFE. Thanks for your insight and report brother![/QUOTE]I just got back from cebu and hated it. Its just an awful city for a quick P4P trip imo, if you are going to spend some time there then you will get some great GFE that is for sure (just try to let them know you are only there for a short while and not looking for a wife imo)
But I agree completely with what he said, the koreans have totally spoiled the P4P market, you will likely go to j ave and the hottest girls in the place will assume you arent willing to pay and ignore you while they party with the koreans.
I think it could be a great place to live and play the long game in, you could build up quite a stable of friends with benefits being a young white guy (which I am also) and in a short trip you MIGHT be able to do the same, but I don't think you want to take a trip on a maybe.
That said there are some lookers at the mango girly bars so if you strike out elsewhere you can always go there, but I've been to the same cities as you listed and a few others and cebu was my least favorite, and by far my least favorite for P4P.
Day 2 in Manila.
Do my shopping at Robinson's, get some water, nuts, and a couple blue pills (for the heck of it). Get my Phils sim card (40 pesos and 500 load) and text 2 manila area girls with the new number. I don't dare text more than that, or else I will have waaaay to much, more than I can handle. These little pests constantly badger you once they have your number and I don't want to juggle more than I need to. They have a habit of showing up at the hotel unannounced once they know where you are as well. Girl A is in Las Pinas and wants me to go there. She also has a job interview today. No damn way. Why should I inconvenience myself?
Quickly move on to girl B. Girl B is in Quezon City and is willing to come to Ermita and meet me now. Okay good, if I hate her I will send her packing and still have time to meet up with someone else for dinner / evening fun. She does not want to take LRT or bus (my suggestion) and begs for taxi money. Seeing as how it is 1pm, traffic ain't so bad so I agree that I will pay the taxi with instructions to go straight to the hotel. I also instruct her to make sure the driver uses the meter, because if he knows a foreigner is picking up the bill on the other end, who knows how much it would be. In the ensuing 2 hours she called me 6x (didn't answer) and texted me with all the customary questions that were completely covered online many weeks ago (are you married, how old are you, etc). Geeez, don't you keep notes like us guys do?
3:30pm.
Shows up at the hotel in the taxi, I go around to the drivers window and pay. The meter says 245, gave him 300. I notice a man standing at the back door of the taxi, on the passenger side and he is not wearing hotel concierge uniform. I am wondering who that is talking to the girl in the back seat. She hops out, walks up and announces that her uncle is here! She brought her FUCKING UNCLE along! I am like WTF? Anyways, to keep things moving smoothly, I brush it off and start towards the hotel entrance. She is just the kind I like, cute, short and skinny. I also notice she has huge buckteeth and high upper gums when smiling, which did not come through on the Tagged pics. Yikes.
She asks if her uncle can come with us. Are you kidding me? What the hell is this? Like I really want to go to my hotel room and snuggle with her uncle and her. I say no and keep walking. If she is too scared or offended, well I will go to my room alone. I did not want to upset the applecart just yet but this was not going as planned. I don't look back as we walk through the hotel doors, but I can feel the uncle's eyes on me.
Once in the room, we start chatting. I ask about the uncle, doesn't he have a job today? He is a bouncer in a bar so he is not working in the afternoon and he wanted to come so she is safe. She had taken a day off from her caregiving job to see me. I am pissed and I ask why she didn't ask me or tell me her uncle is coming. She says she knew I would be upset (right!).
As we sit there, the uncle texts her to say he can go home but has no money for taxi. So I am expected to pony up for this dude to go home. Not cool. I put together 270 pesos and tell her to take it and go home with her uncle and we will talk another day.
Wow, it was as if I had just killed a puppy. She would not get up and put her shoes on. I finally had to say it 4 times, Ok, shoes, let's go, before she got up. Who cares little dumbass, learn from your mistakes and don't treat us foreigners like *******es and money trees. I escort her down as she is making me promise a 100 times that we will meet again. I have a smoke outside as she and the uncle engage in heated discussion out of earshot. I finish my smoke and head upstairs, fully expecting her to show up again with the uncle going home. If that happens that little girl will be on the street on her bony little ass. Fortunately for her, she texts me saying how sorry she was and she will never do it again. I hope not! Total damage 570ph and I got a girl in the bag for when I want. Always great to have those reserves, you never know when you will need them.
I text Girl A (who had gone quiet) saying it would be better if she came to Ermita. Her job interview is over and yes she will come and yes she will take jeepney and LRT. Will I pay for transpo? Of course I will! Things are looking better. I love it when it happens so easy. If she brings along an uncle or friend, she will get the same treatment! This one is not phoning me (I hate it when they phone) and just sends little nice texts with no big drama questions.
[QUOTE=Free2; 1541685]Day 2 in Manila.
Do my shopping at Robinson's, get some water, nuts, and a couple blue pills (for the heck of it). Get my Phils sim card (40 pesos and 500 load) and text 2 manila area girls with the new number. I don't dare text more than that, or else I will have waaaay to much, more than I can handle. These little pests constantly badger you once they have your number and I don't want to juggle more than I need to. They have a habit of showing up at the hotel unannounced once they know where you are as well. Girl A is in Las Pinas and wants me to go there. She also has a job interview today. No damn way. Why should I inconvenience myself?
Quickly move on to girl B. Girl B is in Quezon City and is willing to come to Ermita and meet me now. Okay good, if I hate her I will send her packing and still have time to meet up with someone else for dinner / evening fun. She does not want to take LRT or bus (my suggestion) and begs for taxi money. Seeing as how it is 1pm, traffic ain't so bad so I agree that I will pay the taxi with instructions to go straight to the hotel. I also instruct her to make sure the driver uses the meter, because if he knows a foreigner is picking up the bill on the other end, who knows how much it would be. In the ensuing 2 hours she called me 6x (didn't answer) and texted me with all the customary questions that were completely covered online many weeks ago (are you married, how old are you, etc). Geeez, don't you keep notes like us guys do?
3:30pm.
Shows up at the hotel in the taxi, I go around to the drivers window and pay. The meter says 245, gave him 300. I notice a man standing at the back door of the taxi, on the passenger side and he is not wearing hotel concierge uniform. I am wondering who that is talking to the girl in the back seat. She hops out, walks up and announces that her uncle is here! She brought her FUCKING UNCLE along! I am like WTF? Anyways, to keep things moving smoothly, I brush it off and start towards the hotel entrance. She is just the kind I like, cute, short and skinny. I also notice she has huge buckteeth and high upper gums when smiling, which did not come through on the Tagged pics. Yikes.
She asks if her uncle can come with us. Are you kidding me? What the hell is this? Like I really want to go to my hotel room and snuggle with her uncle and her. I say no and keep walking. If she is too scared or offended, well I will go to my room alone. I did not want to upset the applecart just yet but this was not going as planned. I don't look back as we walk through the hotel doors, but I can feel the uncle's eyes on me.
Once in the room, we start chatting. I ask about the uncle, doesn't he have a job today? He is a bouncer in a bar so he is not working in the afternoon and he wanted to come so she is safe. She had taken a day off from her caregiving job to see me. I am pissed and I ask why she didn't ask me or tell me her uncle is coming. She says she knew I would be upset (right!).
As we sit there, the uncle texts her to say he can go home but has no money for taxi. So I am expected to pony up for this dude to go home. Not cool. I put together 270 pesos and tell her to take it and go home with her uncle and we will talk another day.
Wow, it was as if I had just killed a puppy. She would not get up and put her shoes on. I finally had to say it 4 times, Ok, shoes, let's go, before she got up. Who cares little dumbass, learn from your mistakes and don't treat us foreigners like *es and money trees. I escort her down as she is making me promise a 100 times that we will meet again. I have a smoke outside as she and the uncle engage in heated discussion out of earshot. I finish my smoke and head upstairs, fully expecting her to show up again with the uncle going home. If that happens that little girl will be on the street on her bony little ass. Fortunately for her, she texts me saying how sorry she was and she will never do it again. I hope not! Total damage 570ph and I got a girl in the bag for when I want. Always great to have those reserves, you never know when you will need them.
I text Girl A (who had gone quiet) saying it would be better if she came to Ermita. Her job interview is over and yes she will come and yes she will take jeepney and LRT. Will I pay for transpo? Of course I will! Things are looking better. I love it when it happens so easy. If she brings along an uncle or friend, she will get the same treatment! This one is not phoning me (I hate it when they phone) and just sends little nice texts with no big drama questions.[/QUOTE]I think you could have easily handled this way better, way mor diplomatically and ultimately way more successfully. Getting upset in the Philipines serves no purpose and doesn't gain you anything.
The girls don't keep notes because there are 100's of guys all saying they will be visiting and some do some don't. They can't remember one from another, they have no need to.
She bought her uncle along, who may have been her uncle or not, as she's been stiffed before by a foreigner. Thats why.
What you could / should have done was be firm and direct and say Hi Uncle, I will be enjoying some time with the girl, so here's 200p, go buy a beer or smokes or jollibee and the girl will tell you when she's ready to leave.
That way, all would have been happy and you would have got laid.
P250 or sex and you chose the first option.
Playing the game in Philippines requires a flexible approach and being the hard ass will see you getting frustrated by these type of situations and they occur often.
[QUOTE=PussyFeelsGood; 1541649]I just got back from cebu and hated it. Its just an awful city for a quick P4P trip imo, if you are going to spend some time there then you will get some great GFE that is for sure (just try to let them know you are only there for a short while and not looking for a wife imo)
Also) and in a short trip you MIGHT be able to do the same, but I don't think you want to take a trip on a maybe.
That said there are some lookers at the mango girly bars so if you strike out elsewhere you can always go there, but I've been to the same cities as you listed and a few others and cebu was my least favorite, and by far my least favorite for P4P.[/QUOTE]Agreed PFG as Cebu like many other places (and many pinays) takes patience. If you just want a quick bang for your buck stay AC as even the fugliest guy can get laid there LOL.
IMHO I love Cebu, never have any issues always fun and lots of college girls never bar girls etc. But I have more time and lots more patience as some members who know will attest.
So if if are there for 2 days and want an AC type experience, don't come (it is OK as leaves more for me and others LOL) but if you want GFE, nice girls and have patience etc then visit Cebu but don't expect an AC experience.
Some of the better looking bar girls work at mainly Korean run places. I know a few and they tend to focus on them as pay high, very fast and very small (same old story as told before) but like to see nice respectful westerners (like me) when they can.
[QUOTE=X Man;1541283]How long is the layover and what is the time frame? In the past people have recommended Air Force One. They have a web page.[/QUOTE]6 hr layover. I found a few online agencies but not sure if they are reliable though. I don't want to go to Air Force One and take too much time hunting. Do you have to pay a fee if you take them to your hotel? I guess I'll keep looking.
Thanks guys!
Good info and advice FF. I think I would have been plenty pissed if an uncle had shown up as well. Nevertheless, I would have been a nice guy, maybe bought all of us a cheap lunch or coffee, and then tried to excuse myself. Uncle would probably have vetted me and then it's like taking candy from a baby. Maybe. LOL.
Free2, please mellow out a little. Not only are you going to give yourself a heart attack, you're screwing things up for the guys who come after you. No wait, that isn't true! Any guy coming after you will look like Prince Charming.
I once spent a good part of a day meeting the whole clan of a gal in Davao. I finally grew fed up and said I had to go pick up my laundry. Which was true. She insisted on helping me. Well, the laundry bag wasn't heavy, so I didn't need help. But she sure helped me take the edge off once we got back to my room. Those of you who still remember the original "plaid bell bottom" photo will have seen her cute little snatch. X.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1541954]I think you could have easily handled this way better, way mor diplomatically and ultimately way more successfully. Getting upset in the Philipines serves no purpose and doesn't gain you anything.
The girls don't keep notes because there are 100's of guys all saying they will be visiting and some do some don't. They can't remember one from another, they have no need to.
She bought her uncle along, who may have been her uncle or not, as she's been stiffed before by a foreigner. Thats why.
What you could / should have done was be firm and direct and say Hi Uncle, I will be enjoying some time with the girl, so here's 200p, go buy a beer or smokes or jollibee and the girl will tell you when she's ready to leave.
That way, all would have been happy and you would have got laid.
P250 or sex and you chose the first option.
Playing the game in Philippines requires a flexible approach and being the hard ass will see you getting frustrated by these type of situations and they occur often.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1541954]I think you could have easily handled this way better, way mor diplomatically and ultimately way more successfully. Getting upset in the Philipines serves no purpose and doesn't gain you anything.
The girls don't keep notes because there are 100's of guys all saying they will be visiting and some do some don't. They can't remember one from another, they have no need to.
She bought her uncle along, who may have been her uncle or not, as she's been stiffed before by a foreigner. Thats why.
What you could / should have done was be firm and direct and say Hi Uncle, I will be enjoying some time with the girl, so here's 200p, go buy a beer or smokes or jollibee and the girl will tell you when she's ready to leave.
That way, all would have been happy and you would have got laid.
P250 or sex and you chose the first option.
Playing the game in Philippines requires a flexible approach and being the hard ass will see you getting frustrated by these type of situations and they occur often.[/QUOTE]I think you missed the key words in his post " (are you married, how old are you, etc)." She was not looking for Mr. Right Now, she was looking for Mr. Right.
I think his story was funny. He wasted time and pesos. If you live in the PI and have time to deal with time and drama, then those sites work well, but if you are short term visitor, time is not on your side.
Robb
[QUOTE=Revolt;1542025]6 hr layover. I found a few online agencies but not sure if they are reliable though. I don't want to go to Air Force One and take too much time hunting. Do you have to pay a fee if you take them to your hotel? I guess I'll keep looking. Thanks guys![/QUOTE]Six hours is, comparatively speaking, a very short layover. Also, you hint at a hotel but don't tell us which one you will be using. You also don't say whether your layover is between domestic or international flights, or one of each. If you come in on an international flight, it may be upwards of 45 minutes before you clear immigration, luggage pickup, and customs. Another drive of 30 minutes or more via taxi in each direction from airport to hotel and return. You need to be back to the airport an hour or so before departure for a domestic flight or 90 minutes minimum for an outgoing international flight. It will take time to check in and check out of the hotel. At checkout at many hotels you will have to wait while they send somebody to check the room to make sure you didn't steal anything.
You could reduce travel time if you stay at the Manila Airport Inn, which is walking distance from NAIA Terminal 1 (International flights) and walk or taxi to NAIA 2 (Philippine Airlines). But even Manila Airport Inn is a taxi ride away from Terminal 3, where most other domestic flights originate. And if you already have reservations at a hotel, that shapes the p4p outlets you can realistically consider. Most field reports about agency outcalls suggest it may take upwards of an hour before the woman shows up. Any way you calculate, you are not going to have much time for recreation in your hotel room.
X was giving you good advice by suggesting you just go to Air Force One. It's a massage place with several levels of fishbowl (levels of perceived quality or experience of the women) and offers full service. It's a few minutes drive from the airport and most cabbies can find it. Prices vary according to the time of day, and whatever the house asks for an hour, you figure to give the same amount to the woman. Most field reports have described the fishbowls as having attractive choices. It will cost you more than some other takeout places, but your hotel cost will be zero.
[QUOTE=Robbaf; 1542318]I think you missed the key words in his post " (are you married, how old are you, etc)." She was not looking for Mr. Right Now, she was looking for Mr. Right.
Robb[/QUOTE]You may be right about her intentions, although if "uncle" was with her when she called, those questions might have been for his benefit-or even at his request.
I think underlying FF's reply is an important message about time orientation within Filipino culture. We laugh at Filipinas arriving on "Filipino time" (i.e., an hour or more late), but Filipino time is about much more than just arriving late for things. Anything with a component of social interaction in it takes more time in the Philippines. For a Filipina to "go out" involves an inordinate amount of time putting on and rejecting various clothing choices; time in front of the mirror dealing with hair, makeup, eyebrows and eyelashes; packing all the necessary cell phones and other junk into her purse; and so on. She may need to shower, even if she already showered earlier in the day. Or try going with a family on a shopping outing: just multiply the woman's preparation time by the number of people going shopping. Okay, I exaggerate, but not much.
I recall an occasion a few years ago when I was to be met by a woman at the airport after about 26 hours of travel from the states. She insisted she had never been to terminal one, so a friend who had been an OFW to Japan would travel with her. Oh great! Now I had been with the woman once before, so I knew what I was getting into with her, literally and figuratively. But when I found her in the crowd waiting behind the fence at the lower taxi level, she was accompanied by three people: the girlfriend, a bakla friend, and her mother. I still don't know why her mother was there; perhaps to give blessing to her daughter's impending fornication with me.
So we all piled into the cab and rode to my hotel. They all insisted on checking out the hotel room, including checking out the mattress and the TV. I was horny but jet-lagged and was not a happy camper. Turns out that, although it was now nearly midnight, they had left for the airport early and had not had supper. An hour or so later an even hornier Skip was on the tab for dinner for everybody at the Aristocrat. Back to the hotel via taxi. This time they don't insist on going to the room, but there is conversation between daughter and mother that adds up to asking Skip for taxi fare home. Probably another 200 pesos or so beyond what I already owed the taxi driver. But within 30 minutes Skip and the woman were in delightful, lustful exertion, and it continued for the next several nights. I never saw mother again, but the bakla friend came around one time wanting to "party" on Skip's money. That lasted for about two beers, and then Skip feigned tiredness in order to get back to the hotel and into another night's horizontal recreation.
Bottom line: Filipino culture just sometimes requires time-consuming interaction. To get back to the earlier metaphor, I think Westerners' time orientation points to expectations that everything should happen "right now." In Philippine culture nothing that involves human interaction happens right now. I suspect many Westerners who visit for limited time periods never quite figure that out.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost; 1542426]I think underlying FF's reply is an important message about time orientation within Filipino culture. We laugh at Filipinas arriving on "Filipino time" (I. E, an hour or more late) , but Filipino time is about much more than just arriving late for things. Anything with a component of social interaction in it takes more time in the Philippines. For a Filipina to "go out" involves an inordinate amount of time putting on and rejecting various clothing choices; time in front of the mirror dealing with hair, makeup, eyebrows and eyelashes; packing all the necessary cell phones and other junk into her purse; and so on. She may need to shower, even if she already showered earlier in the day. Or try going with a family on a shopping outing: just multiply the woman's preparation time by the number of people going shopping. Okay, I exaggerate, but not much.
<SNIP [/QUOTE]With all due respect SK I think you have described the female species in general the world over. In particular, obviously you have never been married to an Australian woman.
Nothing special about filipinas in this scenario, except maybe the group shopping thing. All women do this. Everywhere. My experience anyway.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1542535]With all due respect SK I think you have described the female species in general the world over. In particular, obviously you have never been married to an Australian woman.
Nothing special about filipinas in this scenario, except maybe the group shopping thing. All women do this. Everywhere. My experience anyway.[/QUOTE]In my experience Filipinas have been better and closer to being on time than American women that I have dated. Given the jeepneys, trikes and traffic jams they must endure I am surprised they get there in a reasonable amount of time. I have had American dates standing in front the mirror for hours getting ready thinking they were doing me a favor!
You no longer have to fill out the Embarkation Card upon departure anymore unless you are OFW. The Phil government figured out they can save billions by eliminating it, yet alone on the storage of them. Still have to fill one out upon arrival. Also payment of P550 departure tax is still required.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1542535]With all due respect SK I think you have described the female species in general the world over. In particular, obviously you have never been married to an Australian woman. Nothing special about filipinas in this scenario, except maybe the group shopping thing. All women do this. Everywhere. My experience anyway.[/QUOTE]The female "getting ready" illustration was probably misplaced, but the story about "meeting the friends" illustrates my basic argument. The distinction I was making between Western and Filipino time orientation is well explained in Edward Hall's model of monochronic versus polychronic cultures. In monochronic cultures "interpersonal relations are subordinated to present schedule." That is, the show must go on, regardless of dramas in the actors' personal lives. In Germany they say you can set your watch by train departures and arrivals at the Hauptbahnhof. Western European, Australian, and North American cultures are characteristically monochronistic.
In polychronic cultures "present schedule is subordinate to interpersonal relations." Since Hall served in the Philippines in WWII, we might assume that Philippine culture sharpened his thinking about polychronic time orientation. So Skip arrived at NAIA with a planned schedule that included round up mate, travel to hotel, climb in the sack, fuck, and go to sleep. But Skip found himself enmeshed in Philippine cultural expectations in which interpersonal relations among the five of us superseded Skip's "present schedule."
I really wanted to spare readers this abstract explanation. I have attached a more detailed explanation below for those who care about it. But I contend the difference in time orientation is worth considering for anybody who crash lands in the Philippines bearing a "right now" Western time orientation.
RK, hopefully you could see beyond the thicket of murky illustration, understood my basic argument and agreed with its premises. Seems to me it might have applied to your story from several months ago about the woman who arrived late for meeting you at Mall of Asia.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1542426]Bottom line: Filipino culture just sometimes requires time-consuming interaction. To get back to the earlier metaphor, I think Westerners' time orientation points to expectations that everything should happen "right now." In Philippine culture nothing that involves human interaction happens right now.[/QUOTE]Except when they have an "emergency" and want you to send "help"; they fully expect that to happen "right now!"
[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1542623]I really wanted to spare readers this abstract explanation. I have attached a more detailed explanation below for those who care about it. But I contend the difference in time orientation is worth considering for anybody who crash lands in the Philippines bearing a "right now" Western time orientation.[/QUOTE]Edward Hall's model might well have been a useful "academic" analysis in past times but one cannot categorise all pinays as part of any polychronic cultural group in this present society.
For some concrete examples: all of the pinays (and pinoys) that I have worked with at a professional level are extremely punctual, and they very quickly adopt a monochronic approach when it matters.
The call-center workers know that they get fired if they are late.
As PJ suggests, when it matters pinays have a very strong "right now" orientation (note I said "when it matters").
All of us have received the regular text "Hi. What are you doing right now?"
My reply of "scratching my balls" or "picking my nose" was not the sort of answer they expected or understood.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1542623]The female "getting ready" illustration was probably misplaced,[/QUOTE]Most of the wasted time is her drying her long hair after showering; I've found a lot of girls don't like to leave my place with wet hair since apparently others attach a just-got-fucked stigma to it. Her worries are even greater, and likely more well founded, if she's leaving for home where her parents, siblings or partner live. There's an easy remedy to this: buy a hairdryer.
And to Skip, that was an insightful read. Thanks for posting.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1542802]pinays as part of any polychronic cultural group in this present society.
Very quickly adopt a monochronic approach when it matters.[/QUOTE]I thought I had a reasonable vocabulary but you very well educated chaps have an entire language with which I'm totally unfamiliar.
FF, there were some interesting words in that post. Fortunately, I'd read a few things about Hall and didn't need to pull out a dictionary.
No offense to the scholars, but explanations of Hall's work often use the terms high-context, low context. Hall's writings have helped me make sense of "logic" in Asia. For those of you who haven't already done so, search "hall, high context" and you'll find plenty to read. I find it fascinating, but I'm sure some of the readers here are already wondering why we aren't talking about "poossy", or "manila". Sorry.
Rk, has a good point. I would say that globalization and the mass media affect this cultural phenomena, as well as other things. It's not black and white, it's many shades of grey / gray. The old cliche about the Philippines,"500 years of Cathalicism. 100 years of Hollywood" would of course apply here.
If anyone wants to continue cross cultural topic discussion, maybe we should move to the "general" thread.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1542834]I thought I had a reasonable vocabulary but you very well educated chaps have an entire language with which I'm totally unfamiliar.[/QUOTE]
[quote=skip kost;1542426]i recall an occasion a few years ago when i was to be met by a woman at the airport after about 26 hours of travel from the states. she insisted she had never been to terminal one, so a friend who had been an ofw to japan would travel with her. oh great! now i had been with the woman once before, so i knew what i was getting into with her, literally and figuratively. but when i found her in the crowd waiting behind the fence at the lower taxi level, she was accompanied by three people: the girlfriend, a bakla friend, and her mother. i still don't know why her mother was there; perhaps to give blessing to her daughter's impending fornication with me.[/quote]there is a long custome in philippine which is called as "chaperon" (a french word)
it was pretty common custom in europe during middle age that a woman do not go outside by herself. i heard that this custom started in philippines from the time of colonization by spain. in those days, to avoid getting raped by spanish conquerer, girls always accompanied with friends or family members when they go out. that tradition still exists in philippines.
if the girl is professional sw, then she will directly head to your room without any companion. however, if it is non-pro and it is your first meeting, you should consider that she have a chance to bring a friend, uncle, aunt, mom, or what-so-ever.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1542802]Edward Hall's model might well have been a useful "academic" analysis in past times but one cannot categorise all pinays as part of any polychronic cultural group in this present society.[/QUOTE]You are putting words in my mouth. I don't recall posting anything about "all pinoys." In my first extended trip to the Philippines, eight years ago, I received a day long "cultural orientation," as my hosts wanted me and others in our group to understand a few principal cultural ideas such as not "losing face," "Filipino time," saying "maybe" when the real answer would be "no," Filipinos' attraction to light-skinned foreigners, taxi situations, principles of neighborly obligation (as, for example, implied in language such as bayanihan and pagtutulungan) and even toileting practices (like using a tabo in lieu of toilet paper and for flushing the toilet). I'm sure I've forgotten much of what we were told.
As you and others point out, various globalizing forces have injected Western values and practices into some settings in Philippine society. My first several days in the Philippines-and the cultural orientation-took place in Makati, but I was told at the time,"this is not the real Philippines. Most Filipinos think of Makati as a sort of Beverly Hills and will probably never visit here." That may have changed over the ensuing eight years.
In my recent visits I mostly just pass by Makati and Ortigas on the MRT, and end up spending a fair amount of time in slums, where people have only the base of a toilet, and flush it with water dipped with a tabo from a big plastic barrel. So I acknowledge I may be looking at a distorted slice of Philippine society. But, taking your observation at face value, should we assume that trying to give new Westerners some of the ideas in the cultural orientation I received is a waste of time?
Back during the discussion that followed your report about the woman arriving late at Mall of Asia, I recall GE observing that for Filipinos, "time is more fungible, more fluid" (or words to that effect). You did not disagree. Do you now disagree with GE's thoughts?
Had a non pro (has a real job) dia girl who I've never met come meet me tonight at 1am for the first time, I sleep weird hours so my only free time is late night / early day and she works days so I explain this is the only time we can meet, on the way she tells me her friend is with her and I think its going to be a wasted night.
We banged while the friend slept on the couch.
I miss the days where you could come to this forum and see reports of people's recent adventures. Now you come here and there is either a flame war, a psychology class, or both.
[QUOTE=PussyFeelsGood;1543165]We banged while the friend slept on the couch.[/QUOTE]Amongst some that's what's known as a missed opportunity. ;)
Anyway good going on not letting the surprise spoil your night.
[quote=raideen; 1542922]there is a long custome in philippine which is called as "chaperon" (a french word)
it was pretty common custom in europe during middle age that a woman do not go outside by herself. i heard that this custom started in philippines from the time of colonization by spain. in those days, to avoid getting raped by spanish conquerer, girls always accompanied with friends or family members when they go out. that tradition still exists in philippines.
if the girl is professional sw, then she will directly head to your room without any companion. however, if it is non-pro and it is your first meeting, you should consider that she have a chance to bring a friend, uncle, aunt, mom, or what-so-ever.[/quote]um i'm sure skip appreciates the well intentioned words concerning the definition of a " chaperone" but hes been on in and around the philippines for many years now and is probably more highly familiar with both the subject and the situation.
[QUOTE=Raideen; 1542922]If the girl is professional SW, then she will directly head to your room without any companion. However, if it is non-pro and it is your first meeting, you should consider that she have a chance to bring a friend, uncle, aunt, mom, or what-so-ever.[/QUOTE]Really?
Then why the aku din chorus from the additional support team when you give some gift to your date?
[QUOTE=Dg8787;1542577]In my experience Filipinas have been better and closer to being on time than American women that I have dated. Given the jeepneys, trikes and traffic jams they must endure I am surprised they get there in a reasonable amount of time. I have had American dates standing in front the mirror for hours getting ready thinking they were doing me a favor![/QUOTE]I agree with you.
Like on time. Like the girl who took 4 hour by taxi on a Saturday from Pasay to Makati.
You been pretty lucky or dating the right girls. Unlike poor me.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost; 1543033]<snip
Back during the discussion that followed your report about the woman arriving late at Mall of Asia, I recall GE observing that for Filipinos,"time is more fungible, more fluid" (or words to that effect). You did not disagree. Do you now disagree with GE's thoughts?[/QUOTE]I always tell GE direct if I disagree with anything he says since we meet virtually every week because our offices are close.
SK. This is not a forum for academic debate. I certainly am not trying to score points off anyone, including you. I too, have been through a series of "cultural acclimatisation" seminars and I have read all of Tomas D Andres' and F. Landa Jocano's rather interesting books about cultural mores in the Philippines (simple, cheap books from National Book Store).
Readers of this board are looking for short, sharp, easily understood descriptions of things that they will encounter. I will remember not to interpolate any of your future posts lest I stimulate a series of long-winded ripostes.
Apologies for saying "all" when I should have said "most" or "many" in my earlier post.
Guys,
Jumped into a cab in Makati on Monday night, heading for Manila Bay Cafe. The taxi driver suggested he take me to a private apartment- "fresh girls from the provinces", and since I was looking for a girl LT, and it was already 11:30 pm I agreed. After a 10 minute drive across Makati, we stopped in front of an anonymous apartment. Inside there were about 30. 40 girls, definitely all well seasoned pros. I found one I liked and took her back to the hotel- probably in her early 30s, had a couple of kids, but very good in the sack- no complaints.
The cab driver asked PHP 4, 000 LT, which was crazy, I bargained the uncle down to 3, 000, probably still too much- anyone know the right price?
Thanks,
Friendly
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1543366]I always tell GE direct if I disagree with anything he says since we meet virtually every week because our offices are close.
SK. This is not a forum for academic debate.[/QUOTE]Put very simply, pinays will be late so learn to live with it and all the crazy excuse that go with them being late. They can't tell you 'bad news' so try to sugar coat everything (someone maybe RK said because their diet are soap operas). Trying to understand why etc is something men IMHO are not good at even with western women.
So, however interesting all these books and thesis are / maybe the plain fact is they will be late so plan for it. And if by some remarkable chance they are on time or early make sure you have DNAed the bed after the last girl (or have her leave by a different exit LOL).
3000 isn't too bad all-in for Makati if there's no barfine etc (when compared to Burgos). Care to share / PM the location?
[QUOTE=FriendlyPlanet; 1543403]Guys,
Jumped into a cab in Makati on Monday night, heading for Manila Bay Cafe. The taxi driver suggested he take me to a private apartment- "fresh girls from the provinces", and since I was looking for a girl LT, and it was already 11:30 pm I agreed. After a 10 minute drive across Makati, we stopped in front of an anonymous apartment. Inside there were about 30. 40 girls, definitely all well seasoned pros. I found one I liked and took her back to the hotel- probably in her early 30s, had a couple of kids, but very good in the sack- no complaints.
The cab driver asked PHP 4, 000 LT, which was crazy, I bargained the uncle down to 3, 000, probably still too much- anyone know the right price?
Thanks,
Friendly[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1543366]Readers of this board are looking for short, sharp, easily understood descriptions of things that they will encounter. I will remember not to interpolate any of your future posts lest I stimulate a series of long-winded ripostes.[/QUOTE]Matters not RK. Some, not many, members may be interested in academic debate relating to the Pinay psyche and will read through the posts. The rest will skim or ignore.
I will say that I have come across my first truly punctual Filipina. I have now met her half a dozen times and she has yet to be even a minute late. In fact, she is often early and sits patiently in a nearby Seven Eleven or Mini Stop waiting for me. I don't know how she does it but she does and she is the shining exception that proves the rule.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1543610]I will say that I have come across my first truly punctual Filipina. I have now met her half a dozen times and she has yet to be even a minute late. In fact, she is often early and sits patiently in a nearby Seven Eleven or Mini Stop waiting for me. I don't know how she does it but she does and she is the shining exception that proves the rule.[/QUOTE]That's good for you CS that you have "come across" her (insert snigger here) given that she is only a part-time "employee" of yours so she obviously relishes her career prospects.
I can only repeat that filipinas and pinoys that have been professional colleagues of mine are always very punctual. I understand from acquaintances who employ filipinos in Australia and NZ that they are indeed among the MOST reliable employees regarding punctuality and ability to work as directed.
The pinays that I have met all over the Philippines for various nefarious activities unrelated to work are totally unreliable about time and are the frequent topic of posts here (many exasperated versions of which I have posted). I don't think this behavior can be analysed or categorised by anthropologists, because there is a certain group who can be (are) very reliable.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1543628]I can only repeat that filipinas and pinoys that have been professional colleagues of mine are always very punctual. I understand from acquaintances who employ filipinos in Australia and NZ that they are indeed among the MOST reliable employees regarding punctuality and ability to work as directed.
The pinays that I have met all over the Philippines for various nefarious activities unrelated to work are totally unreliable about time and are the frequent topic of posts here (many exasperated versions of which I have posted). I don't think this behavior can be analysed or categorised by anthropologists, because there is a certain group who can be (are) very reliable.[/QUOTE]I can second that RK having worked with, employed and been the boss of a few pinoys / pinays over the years. Some I speak to about this 'Filipino time' issue are equally annoyed at their fellow countrymen tardiness saying "they would never survive in my company if they were that late"
So is it the water in the country that makes them change here? Is it that we keep them (pinays only) in bed longer letting them enjoy foreign sausages (as the regular hot dog can be boring) another reason? Whatever it is in this country many have no concept of time but when they work in another country and their salary depends on it etc they are able to adapt.
CS congratulations, I have also have some that are punctual but that is only after a few years of 'training' and 'carrot and stick', but it is nice to see and experience at times (unless the earlier girl is still with you still eating the sausage.
[QUOTE=FriendlyPlanet; 1543403]Guys,
Jumped into a cab in Makati on Monday night, heading for Manila Bay Cafe. The taxi driver suggested he take me to a private apartment- "fresh girls from the provinces", and since I was looking for a girl LT, and it was already 11:30 pm I agreed. After a 10 minute drive across Makati, we stopped in front of an anonymous apartment.[/QUOTE]I had exactly the same experience on two occasions, same price, same impression of the girls. I was taken to single-story buildings a five minute drive (in the middle of the night with no traffic) into the low-build areas behind the EDSA complex. For me other options remain more attractive.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1543628]I can only repeat that filipinas and pinoys that have been professional colleagues of mine are always very punctual. I understand from acquaintances who employ filipinos in Australia and NZ that they are indeed among the MOST reliable employees regarding punctuality and ability to work as directed.
The pinays that I have met all over the Philippines for various nefarious activities unrelated to work are totally unreliable about time and are the frequent topic of posts here (many exasperated versions of which I have posted). I don't think this behavior can be analysed or categorised by anthropologists, because there is a certain group who can be (are) very reliable.[/QUOTE]Concur. When pinay want to be on time, they are on time (or even hours early). I would guess that 99% of Filipino that have purchased a cap and gown are on time for their college graduation. That "time-challenged" trait seems to me (correct me if I'm wrong) to be ingrained in many of the places the spaniards conquered (the latin-americas) where I've visited, not just pilipines. However, the idea that pinoy "can't be on time", or that "you can't overcome their culture" (have been told that on this board and especially in PM, on other boards, in emails and by numerous gents sitting in places like Kokomo's and MBC / LAC) , might be incorrect. Their culture is not to be late. Nor to be on time. Its a dichotomous issue. For some events they are late, and other events they will specifically be on time (or early). I'm not necessarily good at stating which events, but I'm good at stating one of those events: spending time with me. I have a method (not stated here, the method brings out harsh opinions) which has reduced tardiness in returnees to almost zero, and cut way down on tardiness from first-time girls.
[QUOTE=FriendlyPlanet; 1543403]Guys,
Jumped into a cab in Makati on Monday night, heading for Manila Bay Cafe. The taxi driver suggested he take me to a private apartment- "fresh girls from the provinces", and since I was looking for a girl LT, and it was already 11:30 pm I agreed. After a 10 minute drive across Makati, we stopped in front of an anonymous apartment. Inside there were about 30. 40 girls, definitely all well seasoned pros. I found one I liked and took her back to the hotel- probably in her early 30s, had a couple of kids, but very good in the sack- no complaints.
The cab driver asked PHP 4, 000 LT, which was crazy, I bargained the uncle down to 3, 000, probably still too much- anyone know the right price?
Thanks,
Friendly[/QUOTE]3000 is fine all in.
Actually it's pretty good.
If you got her at 2500 or 2000 still need to tip her at least 1000.
If you work the price down too much you might have to tip the boys working there too.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1541954]I think you could have easily handled this way better, way mor diplomatically and ultimately way more successfully. Getting upset in the Philipines serves no purpose and doesn't gain you anything.
The girls don't keep notes because there are 100's of guys all saying they will be visiting and some do some don't. They can't remember one from another, they have no need to.
She bought her uncle along, who may have been her uncle or not, as she's been stiffed before by a foreigner. Thats why...[/QUOTE]I respectfully disagree sir!
I know the game in the Phils and I was not disappointed.
Girl 2 who showed up turned into a real blessing.
For every girl who wants to bring a friend or uncle, there is 20 that are pro's who will not bring a friend or uncle (no thanks) , but what I am looking for and found was the 5 who are non-pro's who will come alone and be the real deal.
Pics later, she will be called Girl 2. (Having real issues trying to upload pics on the website. Real sticky to do so).
Girl 2. A real keeper. Recently unemployed at Robinson's, but got a job in Makati while I was there. This girl works for a living. Does not text me like a crazy bansi every 5 minutes, awesome sense of humor and loves getting fucked. First time I came in 5 minutes and she says I was too fast. Next time I took a blue pill and after 20 minutes she says I was to long! Haha. Take that you LBFM.
My advice is if it smells (bringing uncle whatever, drama, etc) dump them as fast as you can. There is 1000 more girls out there that you will find and who will give you what you want. It just takes patience and takes going through the list to eleiminate the dumbasses.
That's what I do and every time I eventually find it.
This time it was literally girl #2, sometimes it takes me longer than that.
Often times I will fuck them and realize that this is not the girl for this trip. Move on to the next one.
This Girl 2 met me again when I returned to Manila for 3 days at the end of the trip. We did not stray far from the hotel because it had a beautiful pool and of course free wifi. Give the girl free wifi and she is happy for days on end. You are happy because you got in-house pussy on demand.
I gave Girl 2 transport on the first visit and fed her.
The 2nd visit (upon my return from around the provinces) I fed her, bought her a t-shirt and gave her 2000p to buy a new cord for her iphone.
Seriously, we go to Robinsons and I tell her to buy whatever she wants.
She picks a 600p t-shirt! I love this girl.
Not very much outlay for happy, non-drama days in Manila.
As we know, everything else about Manila sucks.
I will be in The Philippines soon. Can anyone recommend me "must go" or "cannot miss" places in Manila?
[QUOTE=DesiDownUnder;1546682]I will be in The Philippines soon. Can anyone recommend me "must go" or "cannot miss" places in Manila?[/QUOTE]DesiDownUnder, I suggest you to RTFF.
If you don't know what RTFF means then go to your ISG menu bar and under "Abbreviations" you will see that RTFF means Read the Fucking Forum. There are a few guys like you who want a potted answer but too lazy to look at the information already posted. There are a lot of guys who have in their ISG postings gone to a lot of effort to report their "must go" and "cannot miss" opinions. It is for you to judge and shape up your own "must go" places. And when you do go to these and other places please do provide your feedback report in this forum so it may help guys like you.
[QUOTE=DesiDownUnder;1546682]I will be in The Philippines soon. Can anyone recommend me "must go" or "cannot miss" places in Manila?[/QUOTE]An ATM and a CR meet both of those, surely. Everything else is subject to your whims, fancies, biases, proclivities and appetites.
Read the board. Really.
[QUOTE=DesiDownUnder;1546682]I will be in The Philippines soon. Can anyone recommend me "must go" or "cannot miss" places in Manila?[/QUOTE]where's the Unlike, don't Like, Dislike, Will Never Like, Totally Really don't Like, For Gods Sake I don't Like This Post, button?
[QUOTE=DesiDownUnder;1546682]I will be in The Philippines soon. Can anyone recommend me "must go" or "cannot miss" places in Manila?[/QUOTE]The immigration booth at Terminal 1
[QUOTE=DesiDownUnder;1546682]I will be in The Philippines soon. Can anyone recommend me "must go" or "cannot miss" places in Manila?[/QUOTE]Jollibee! Red Ribbon. Max's Fried Chicken. Chowking. Mang Inasal. Pancake House. Mercury Drugs. National Book Store. BPI. Robinsons. Greenwich.
Definitely get a hotel room. I don't recommend putting up a tent somewhere. LOL
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1546915]Jollibee! Red Ribbon. Max's Fried Chicken. Chowking. Mang Inasal. Pancake House. Mercury Drugs. National Book Store. BPI. Robinsons. Greenwich.[/QUOTE]Also McDo, KFC, lechon stands in the main road, Somai stalls, money exchange unless you think the Aussie dollar is the currency of choice in the Philippines.
Agree with earlier comments and a quick review of Desi's FRs suggest he asks a lot but gives very little back. Give and take Desi, you give first before you take.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1546948]Give and take Desi, you give first before you take.[/QUOTE]I don't mind a bloke asking a question w / o first giving a decent FR, but his questions were those of someone who put in zero effort. To which I say... "Fuck that!"
Anyway, to Desi I say, "Bon appetite." Sorry no one here could even tell you of a decent curry house to visit. Actually they could, but no one could be bothered.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1546915]Jollibee! Red Ribbon. Max's Fried Chicken. Chowking. Mang Inasal. Pancake House. Mercury Drugs. National Book Store. BPI. Robinsons. Greenwich.[/QUOTE]To Freebie Fan.
You should add the Toilet to the list Downunder will need it after eating at this place.
Fast Eddie 48
I have previously reported on my experiences in Angeles City. Here is finally a summary of my impressions from Manila, where I actually spent more time than in Angeles City, but burdened with non-mongering commitments. One of the challenges was that I was staying in the Ortigas area. Mongering options there were as far as I could work out non-existent. So I had to trek through heavy traffic to one of the other locations for any action. By 10 pm this was not so bad (though not so great either).
EDSA.
I first tried the EDSA complex of girlie bars. As far as I remember bar fine + payment to girl came to PHP 5000, not including tip. So it is not cheap, basically one easily ends up spending something like USD 100 on each girl. However, there are many girls to choose from, and there are many young, attractive, friendly girls. Once I took a girl from EDSA in a taxi back to my far away hotel. A few other times I just crossed the road (heavy traffic) to the SOGO short time hotel, where not fancy but perfectly ok rooms with clean linen could be had for PHP 600 for three hours.
An exotic thing about the SOGO hotel across the road from EDSA is that part of it is a drive-in hotel. Basically you can come in your car, order a room without getting out, drive into a garage complex on the ground floor where there are 20-30 individual garages, shutter your car in your own private little garage and take a private staircase to your private room on the second floor. I have never seen anything like this, must be convenient for locals who are well known and don't want to be recognized.
I have had five or so threesomes in my life, including a couple of genuine amateur ones with friends in my home country. I have always found them either uninspiring or even miserable experiences where it is impossible to establish a proper rapport with one's sexual partners. So I avoid them like the pest. But at EDSA two girls and a very sympathetic (I. E. With a good vibe with the girls and with me) mamasan managed to talk me into taking two girls for a threesome at a slight discount rate (I think it was a total of PHP 4000 for each girl). They were gorgeous petite things, depicted in the first fuzzy picture in my uploads in the photo thread. The picture really doesn't do them justice, the one that looks chubby was actually a beautiful, nubile, playful thing with just a slightly bubbly but. The other was a rock hard spinner. Both about 20-22 years old. Neither had given birth.
They gave me the only good threesome I have ever had. They hardly chattered among themselves, except for a few brief moments followed by excited giggles. With some guidance, they did everything I wanted them to, making it what (I think) a threesome should be. Endless threeway DFK with lots of trilateral facial licking and saliva exchange. I got them to blow me together. They started doing it not quite how I wanted, one sucking my balls while the other sucked my shaft, or one using the hand while they other sucked. But when I finally got the idea across to them they seemed to enjoy doing it, I. E. Sliding up and down each their own side of the shaft, French kissing three ways again at the top (with my dick as the third kisser) and competing to suck the head in. While doing one in mish, I got the other to lie body to body with me on my back and do the thrusting, essentially using me to fuck her friend. Towards the end of the session one of them spotted a little from the intensive sex (which I don't mind at all, as I am neither suicidal nor a murderer and always use a condom). So after reassuring her that it was absolutely ok, I said that she should nonetheless be punished. So we enjoyed a little bondage and rough sex with one of the girls and me ganging up on the other, tying her wrists lightly with a soft belt from a dressing gown, pushing her head into the bed, lightly grasping her throat, holding her ankles tight and some hard fucking. They loved it. I was glad to be of service :) Afterwards they lay around half on top of me catching their breath, stroking me lovingly.
Across the road from EDSA are two hotels, Heritage and Copacabana Apartment Hotel. Both would be very noisy places due to the heavy traffic. A couple more blocks away around a corner is Hotel Midas, perhaps with less traffic noise. I didn't stay in any of them. Heritage seemed a better hotel than Copacabana, and more expensive.
In the area around EDSA are several other mongering options, small rough places with mostly locals (friendly towards me) , a rip off strip club next to EDSA which also had some very unattractive Russians, and so on. Interesting to explore, but I am not sure any of them are worth it when you have EDSA at hand.
I also tried taking the public transport rail (MRT or LRT) from Ortigas to EDSA. It was perfectly ok, but that was in the afternoon. Another day I saw queues literally several blocks long during rush hour. There is also an MRT / LRT line in the direction of LA Café, so in theory you could also use it to commute along that axis as long as you don't get stuck in the the queues.
Café Havana.
I also visited Café Havana. This was at the beginning of my trip and I left quickly and empty-handed. Most of the seating is outdoors in a nice, secluded, leafy area (behind a mall?). It felt more like a nice regular bar scene and most people seemed to be sitting around at tables with friends (often male) , so it seemed difficult to approach girls. Perhaps it was too early in the evening. This was at the beginning of my trip, so I was jetlagged and perhaps also had not built up enough self-confidence for this sort of operation yet. Also I wanted much action quickly and therefore did not have time for long plays. Had I had the possibility I probably would have returned later on. Amazing what a week or two with willing prostitutes can do with your self-confidence.
Burgos.
I never went to Burgos Street, though I drove past once in the daytime. As far as I could make out from RTFF it is expensive there.
LA Cafe.
I also went several times to LA Café (previously Manila Bay Cafee or MBC for a period). It is two floors with 3-4 rooms with a grungy, rock'and'roll bar feel. I was not overly impressed. Most of the girls are not so young, not so attractive, have given birth. There are a few prettier, younger ones, but they also tend to be a bit standoffish. I tended to walk and walk in circles trying to find someone, but then my walking and stares would attract attention. I took out a couple of girls from there, one was a pleasant MILF with whom I could have had a nice relationship for some time, but it simply was not my game. I also wandered the surrounding streets, full of beggars and homeless families (some with small children) at night. A bit depressing, but grungy and interesting. I looked into a bunch of other places in the vicinity. None of them were really impressive. Amazonia or whatever it is called about a block away from LA Café was quite a big place, but I never saw any interesting women there, more like the 30-45 year old bracket. I spent a couple of hours wandering the Robinsons mall a few blocks away, tried hitting on a couple of girls there, but no success. I was dead tired at the time, which may not have helped. I picked up one girl who looked young who was being pimped by a toothless homeless person. At first I was really in doubt about whether to dare or not, feared all kinds of troubles including her age and hygiene and health. But it turned out she was fine, just a regular 21 year old girl who had somehow gotten into this strange situation, very pleasant to be around. Had I not been about to leave I would have met up with her again.
Returning from an unsuccessful wandering of smaller girlie bars a few blocks away to LA Café, I saw a pretty face by the door to a small, anonymous bar. I approached her. It seemed more like drinking hole than a girlie bar. But her face was so beguiling I ended up letting her pull me into the bar. There was a partial karaoke set up (for one person at a time to sing for the whole bar) , a good few customers, including some locals. Many drunk. She wanted me to buy a drink, then her friend, then her other friend too. They also wanted me to buy some food. Red warning lamps were flashing (about wasting my time and money) , I vaguely tried to leave a couple of times, but they managed to reign me in every time – luckily. I was trying to get the door girl to go with me. At first she was coy, not allowed to go with customers, had to stay at work until 2 am etc. But then, seemingly after some consultations with her friends, the conversation changed. They were all from a different city, rented cheap digs way out of town, so could all three of them come and stay with me when they finished work at 2 am? WTF? They seemed so innocent, would I be setting myself up for a frigid night with these three angels? That would probably be tree times as bad as a frigid night with one woman. And as mentioned I don't like multi-somes anyway. So I tried to bring some clarity into things. My door girl would have sex with me, her friend too, but not the third friend. What exactly the sex would be like was difficult to work out.
They were all 18, sexy, enthusiastic, inexperienced. In the end I wanted them so badly I promised them PHP 3000 each if they would meet up later (for those who had sex with me). This was to make sure they had an incentive to keep our appointment. Sorry about the overspending, but I wanted this badly and I also didn't have time to be stood up. They did not want to meet at the bar, so we agree to meet at a different place nearby. So I went off wandering, had a quickie with a woman from LA Café and then went to the meeting place and lo and behold there they were. We went back to my nearby hotel, which for the last couple of nights I had moved down to that area of town (Riviera Mansions – cheap, good location, clean enough, wifi sucks, queues for the under-dimensioned lifts). Although the hotel was girl friendly, I was not quite sure how the doorman would feel about t h are e e 18 year olds, so I gave him a little warning in advance and slipped him a nice tip. He was cool with it, and appreciated the tip.
I still did not know what the girls were really thinking in terms of sex. We got up to the room, we had bought some food and (non-alcoholic) drink on the way, but had had lots of beers in the bar and ended up having a little party. Great atmosphere. Lots of fun and laughter. Selfies (some of which I have uploaded in the photos thread). Then time to go to bed. The (seemingly) bad news: turned out they did not intend to have sex all at the same time. The good news: number three wanted to have sex after all. So we were going to have a serial foursome. Two and two would go to the bathroom and giggle, while I did their friend, then they changed places.
Each one of them was different. The tallest, toughest of them in the bar, turned out to be the shyest in bed. She had only had sex a few times with a boyfriend, and only a couple years ago. She was basically semi-virgin (not my thing, but it does have a beauty). She cried a little, perhaps partly because of the pain, but seemingly at least as much because she was afraid of 'failing' in front of her friends. I offered several times to stop, explained that I would still pay, but she wanted me to do it. I treated her as gently as I could. It was a sweet séance.
The next girl was 'number three', who turned out to be the more experienced (she had a boyfriend, which was why she didn't want to go with me at first). Nice, albeit simple, sex, with some passion. Good French kissing, clinging to me, nice thrusting and grinding, appreciated DATY.
Last I had my initial favorite, the door girl. Her belly was a bit more flabby than I appreciate, but her face was divine and she was nice in bed and really tuned in to me.
None of them gave me a blowjob (nor did I ask for one) and the sex was nothing sophisticated or wild, very non-PSE. It was one of those situations where I was thinking, hell, they should be paying me. But the aesthetics of servicing a queue of pretty, enthusiastic. 18-year olds with a great relationship among themselves was a real high. I treated them as nicely as I could, trying to gauge what they wanted. Afterwards they were so grateful. The door girl still writes to me, says she misses me, and her friends miss me too :) After I had done them all thoroughly, which took a good while, they wanted to leave after all. I was half disappointed – it would have been nice to sleep entangled with those three nymphs – but also half relieved, I probably wouldn't have slept much at all, and I really needed to sleep the remaining couple of hours until I had to get up.
Condoms
In both the EDSA threesome and the LA Café area serial foursome I made sure to switch condoms between the girls. I knew they might be reluctant to ask me to do so, as they might fear that their friends would feel that they were casting doubt on them. So I made sure myself that the condom was changed each time without any questions asked. I think that is the right thing to do.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1547161]To Freebie Fan.
You should add the Toilet to the list Downunder will need it after eating at this place.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]I think between us, we have hit on a new way to answer the plonkers who ask such questions. I'm laughing even if he isn't.
Hey guys,
Long time poster here that stopped for a while.
I'm thinking of getting back in the game, but now I'm in the Philippines and I'm looking for some good MP's. A friend of a friend suggested Kremlin Spa located in QC. Does anyone have any recent experience there? How was it? Any info about the place would be nice.
Thanks in advance and I'll write a report if I decide to go.
Hey fellas,
I am planning my trip to the Philippines and I want to know where is the best place to find a 3 holer?
I really want to get two girls that are 3 holers because I want to do a threesome with them.
Any recommendations? Phone numbers of some good girls etcc?
Thanks for the assistance in advance for those who respond.
[QUOTE=Super2013; 1548500]Hey fellas,
I am planning my trip to the Philippines and I want to know where is the best place to find a 3 holer?
I really want to get two girls that are 3 holers because I want to do a threesome with them.
Any recommendations? Phone numbers of some good girls etcc?
Thanks for the assistance in advance for those who respond.[/QUOTE]Come to the Philippines is the best advice and then easy to find. Once you do then do what the rest of us do and work hard to find them and if we do find a 3 holer we share only when someone is known and had given to the Philippines board before taking (RTFF for FRs with 'give and take')
I know some 3 holers BTW.
[QUOTE=Super2013; 1548500]Hey fellas,
I am planning my trip to the Philippines and I want to know where is the best place to find a 3 holer?
I really want to get two girls that are 3 holers because I want to do a threesome with them.
Any recommendations? Phone numbers of some good girls etcc?
Thanks for the assistance in advance for those who respond.[/QUOTE]Try EDSA. Let mama know what you want and maybe she can make it happen?
[QUOTE=YG365;1548754]Try EDSA. Let mama know what you want and maybe she can make it happen?[/QUOTE]But YG always do the squeeze test first before taking them out of the bar as you don't want a surprise 3 holer in the room LOL.
I went to the La la land in Paranaque yesterday night. This guy has some of the best babes in Manila. I wanted to take on spinner out, but she was alreday boooked. The manager wanted 9 K for this babe. Is this normal?
AG
[QUOTE=Asian Geek; 1550529]I went to the La la land in Paranaque yesterday night. This guy has some of the best babes in Manila. I wanted to take on spinner out, but she was alreday boooked. The manager wanted 9 K for this babe. Is this normal?
AG[/QUOTE]Way too much unless you one of those guys who prefers what I call 'vanity prostitution' ie the more I pay a sex worker the bigger my ego. Look at the quality other guys are pulling here and the money they are parting with & ask yourself is this particular sex worker worth 9K? Some guys are disgustingly stingy, some guys stroke their ego throwing fistfuls of blue notes at sex workers, most guys try to stick to market price. Up to you in the end.
AV
[QUOTE=Coolica; 1547978]Hey guys,
Long time poster here that stopped for a while.
I'm thinking of getting back in the game, but now I'm in the Philippines and I'm looking for some good MP's. A friend of a friend suggested Kremlin Spa located in QC. Does anyone have any recent experience there? How was it? Any info about the place would be nice.
Thanks in advance and I'll write a report if I decide to go.[/QUOTE]There are other forums specifically with reports about Manila spas. Try and have a look for these Manila forums, Tonight.
Cmon man. This is 3X normal. This is the Philippines not Singapore or Japan.
[QUOTE=Asian Geek; 1550529]I went to the La la land in Paranaque yesterday night. This guy has some of the best babes in Manila. I wanted to take on spinner out, but she was alreday boooked. The manager wanted 9 K for this babe. Is this normal?
AG[/QUOTE]
They were gorgeous petite things, depicted in the first fuzzy picture in my uploads in the photo thread. The picture really doesn't do them justice, the one that looks chubby was actually a beautiful, nubile, playful thing with just a slightly bubbly but. The other was a rock hard spinner. Both about 20-22 years old. Neither had given birth.
I looked for the girls in your report on the photo section and did not find them?
[QUOTE=D Cups;1550605]Cmon man. This is 3X normal.[/QUOTE]D-Cups, my friend, hehe, found good C-cups here, but a civilian, cannot share with you, sorry, But anyway. 3x maybe for AC standards, but not for Manila anymore. In Burgos it's easily 6-7k pesos for an overnighter, so 9k, it's just a 25% premium or so.
Greetings from Burgos!
[QUOTE=Love Seeker; 1550725]They were gorgeous petite things, depicted in the first fuzzy picture in my uploads in the photo thread. The picture really doesn't do them justice, the one that looks chubby was actually a beautiful, nubile, playful thing with just a slightly bubbly but. The other was a rock hard spinner. Both about 20-22 years old. Neither had given birth.
I looked for the girls in your report on the photo section and did not find them?[/QUOTE]With all the activity on this thread things quickly get buried. The post with the pictures is here:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1543738&viewfull=1#post1543738[/url]
If you are particularly interested in the fuzzy picture, it is the first of the three in that post. The next two picture posts are related to the same report (as well as my report on AC).
Cuke
[QUOTE=Asian Geek; 1550529]I went to the La la land in Paranaque yesterday night. This guy has some of the best babes in Manila. I wanted to take on spinner out, but she was alreday boooked. The manager wanted 9 K for this babe. Is this normal?
AG[/QUOTE]That's funny you mention this because I just took a few clients there two weeks ago. I actually liked it, it was fun and the girls were pretty good looking. I enjoyed the little fashion show and dancing.
Anyways never ever pay 9,000 P for a girl. You would have to be so desperate and she would have to be a movie star! Get the phone number have her come over on her day off and pay 2,000 if you must. Those girls make 200. 300 per day, then they get a cut of every drink, they make nothing close to 9,000. The manager tried to rob you blind, don't let it happen. You can pay full price and edsa or burgos and it is only 5,000 to 7,000 depending.
[QUOTE=Super2013; 1548500]Hey fellas,
I am planning my trip to the Philippines and I want to know where is the best place to find a 3 holer?
I really want to get two girls that are 3 holers because I want to do a threesome with them.
Any recommendations? Phone numbers of some good girls etcc?
Thanks for the assistance in advance for those who respond.[/QUOTE]Simple, go to the bar and start asking until a girl says "yes". Then take her home. There is no special secrets here, everybody with money gets laid. You just need to go to one of the girls bars and ask a girl and if she says no ask another one. BarGirls want money, you have money. There is 50 girls in a place some times- you got 50 chances.
[QUOTE=Coolica; 1547978]Hey guys,
Long time poster here that stopped for a while.
I'm thinking of getting back in the game, but now I'm in the Philippines and I'm looking for some good MP's. A friend of a friend suggested Kremlin Spa located in QC. Does anyone have any recent experience there? How was it? Any info about the place would be nice.
Thanks in advance and I'll write a report if I decide to go.[/QUOTE]Strange post. You are a long time poster that has 15 posts? You should know the game if you are a long time poster.
Then others who give you advice you "may" of "may not" privilege them and the rest of us with a report?
I don't know what to think about this.
[QUOTE=OneIpole; 1550877]Strange post. You are a long time poster that has 15 posts? You should know the game if you are a long time poster.
Then others who give you advice you "may" of "may not" privilege them and the rest of us with a report?
I don't know what to think about this.[/QUOTE]I merely meant that, I've been a long time lurker and have posted a report or two about the places I have gone, and that I've been on and off when it comes to this kind of activity.
I didn't mean to say that I "might" give a report; I said if I went I would write one, but I can't very well write a report without knowing what to write about if I haven't gone yet?
Why so hostile man?
[QUOTE=Ekspat; 1550753]3x maybe for AC standards, but not for Manila anymore. In Burgos it's easily 6-7k pesos for an overnighter, so 9k, it's just a 25% premium or so.
Greetings from Burgos![/QUOTE]If so then I'll sadly cross Burgos off my list. Those prices are way out of kilter with the local economy there. I've dropped serious coin there in the past having wonderful experiences to remember but no way I'm buying at those 'starting prices'. I'm guessing 6-7k translates to 6+6 or to be more specific : 6k EWR + 6k to the girl in the morning? Seriously?
AV
[QUOTE=Amavida;1551253]I'm guessing 6-7k translates to 6+6 or to be more specific : 6k EWR + 6k to the girl in the morning? Seriously?[/QUOTE]Nope, I mean 2-3k to the bar and then around 4k to the girl.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Ekspat; 1551257]Nope, I mean 2-3k to the bar and then around 4k to the girl.
Cheers![/QUOTE]For example, at Plan B the other week a friend wanted this very cute one and the barfine was around 3500 pesos but she wanted an additional 5000 pesos! Now she was cute but I told him (as I tell others) get the mobile number and see them during the day as then it is not 8500 by any stretch of the imagination.
And the bars wonder why there are no punters nowadays!
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1551271]For example, at Plan B the other week a friend wanted this very cute one and the barfine was around 3500 pesos but she wanted an additional 5000 pesos! Now she was cute but I told him (as I tell others) get the mobile number and see them during the day as then it is not 8500 by any stretch of the imagination.
And the bars wonder why there are no punters nowadays![/QUOTE]Spot on WR,
I went into Moulin Rouge and they were quoting the same crazy pricing. It was early and most of the girls were C quality but still quoting crazy prices. They were willing to do BJ in the back but I had no interest so didn't ask price. No intent on plugging any bars but I had quite a bit of fun at Stardust just off Burgos on Kalayaan. BF was 1500 and LT can be had for 3000. I didn't negotiate. The place is western owned and run. Has a pretty decent show on the our. Plenty of nice looking girls. I took two girls, both for multiple days. Venus and Blue. Both GFE. Had a good time.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1551271]For example, at Plan B the other week a friend wanted this very cute one and the barfine was around 3500 pesos but she wanted an additional 5000 pesos! Now she was cute but I told him (as I tell others) get the mobile number and see them during the day as then it is not 8500 by any stretch of the imagination.
And the bars wonder why there are no punters nowadays![/QUOTE]Thats crazy, they were just 2,600 a month ago. Plan B was the lowest on burgos for a while. I am at Moulin and Wild West a lot because I am friends with the owners and have know the gay GM, and the older mama for years. Plus I dated the young mama (new one with blond hair) for a while. They typically stay at 3,500-3,800. Stardust is a great place, the dancers (showgirls) are cute and flexible. Its a fun place but I never paid a 1,500 barfine, that's great.
Typically now I never pay barfines, just get the girls number and call them over. You can get a st for 2,000 really easy. But if you need it now you have no choice.
[QUOTE=Amavida; 1551253]If so then I'll sadly cross Burgos off my list. Those prices are way out of kilter with the local economy there. I've dropped serious coin there in the past having wonderful experiences to remember but no way I'm buying at those 'starting prices'. I'm guessing 6-7k translates to 6+6 or to be more specific : 6k EWR + 6k to the girl in the morning? Seriously?
AV[/QUOTE]I try to have a girl in the morning from a dating site and maybe arrange to meet one up for later in the evening. This means I can visit Burgos without any need to buy / rent and not pay these mad prices. Knowing that you have a solid score waiting means theres no pressure and you can enjoy, laugh smile and then politely decline when " barfine me" gets whispered in your ear. The best way to enjoy P Burgos is to go there to drink and watch and play but not to buy. Rogues, Stardust and Wowowow and High Heels are all good fun bars.
[quote=freebiefan;1552054]i try to have a girl in the morning from a dating site and maybe arrange to meet one up for later in the evening. this means i can visit burgos without any need to buy / rent and not pay these mad prices. knowing that you have a solid score waiting means theres no pressure and you can enjoy, laugh smile and then politely decline when " barfine me" gets whispered in your ear. the best way to enjoy p burgos is to go there to drink and watch and play but not to buy. rogues, stardust and wowowow and high heels are all good fun bars.[/quote]i know what you mean ff, college girls from dating sites are very good value as long as you don't let them become gf's. pretty hard sometimes. discretely handing out cell #'s in the burgos bars is worth doing also. i practically get raped when ever i go into friday's so i have to avoid it until i'm in the mood to bust out with a major p4p pse extravaganza.
av
[QUOTE=Amavida;1552096]college girls from dating sites are very good value as long as you don't let them become GF's. Pretty hard sometimes.[/QUOTE]Don't I know it! Had a call centre girl over to my condo this morning after her work for our third hook up. After I deflowered her ass she asked me for my surname. Kinda pushy, doncha think?
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1552161]Don't I know it! Had a call centre girl over to my condo this morning after her work for our third hook up. After I deflowered her ass she asked me for my surname. Kinda pushy, doncha think?[/QUOTE]That is also one nice place to spend the morning (in her ass). Call centre girls are of great value not only for a nice morningwakeupsession. They are also good value at early eve as they have to leave late eve to go to work. All in good time for picking up a freelancer or having an overnighter.
I would slow it down a tad on this one Huts, soon she will ask you what you do in Phils)
[QUOTE=Skogis;1552168]I would slow it down a tad on this one Huts, soon she will ask you what you do in Phils)[/QUOTE]LOL. She has to get my middle names first. There's another girl I meet once a month or so for 8 months now and she refuses to tell me her real name. She told me to call her "In-In"; I've nicknamed her "Deep-Deep". I did have to separate from a lovely UP grad last week because she wanted to elevate the relationship from fubu to exclusivity after we've known each other only once a week for merely two months. A few days later she texted me and asked whether I wanted to start meeting her friend. I declined; figured it had to be a wily subterfuge of some sort. Dem da breaks.
And yes, call centre girls are an outstanding way to occupy non-primetime hours.
[url]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/467127/man-accidentally-shoots-own-penis-dies[/url]
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1551271].
And the bars wonder why there are no punters nowadays![/QUOTE]Maybe not so.
Was there on a Friday. In plan be was quoted 2,500 barfine plus 6,000 for the girl. I declined.
But every 30 minutes or so the girls were clapping when one of their friend got barfined.
And most punters there were buying loads of ld. I never bothered to ask if the accounts were on company expenses. LOL.
[QUOTE=Econo Tech; 1552516]Maybe not so.
Was there on a Friday. In plan be was quoted 2, 500 barfine plus 6, 000 for the girl. I declined.
But every 30 minutes or so the girls were clapping when one of their friend got barfined.
And most punters there were buying loads of ld. I never bothered to ask if the accounts were on company expenses. LOL.[/QUOTE]That's crazy news, I never heard of such a crazy barfine except if the girl does not want to go with you, the girls I am friends with at the bars (spend to much time there I guess.) They tell me if they don't like the guy they will give a huge price so the guy won't take them home. Also some girls are just problematic.
Yep. I thought the same way as you mentioned and passed the "offer" from manager. Went back to my hotel and ordered one in room.
[QUOTE=OneIpole; 1550872]That's funny you mention this because I just took a few clients there two weeks ago. I actually liked it, it was fun and the girls were pretty good looking. I enjoyed the little fashion show and dancing.
Anyways never ever pay 9, 000 P for a girl. You would have to be so desperate and she would have to be a movie star! Get the phone number have her come over on her day off and pay 2, 000 if you must. Those girls make 200. 300 per day, then they get a cut of every drink, they make nothing close to 9, 000. The manager tried to rob you blind, don't let it happen. You can pay full price and edsa or burgos and it is only 5, 000 to 7, 000 depending.[/QUOTE]
I was in Makati earlier this year, and was able to get a nice looking girl out of Bronx Bar for a discounted bar fine of 2k (I had chatted up the mamasan and she gave me a discount). I did end up buying a couple of lady drinks and a bber for about an additional 800 pesos spent, and the girl cost 2k for all night. So, just for the girl the total damage was 4k. At this price, you are better off trying your luck at Havana Cafe or Palladium as I have had hot chicks there for 2 to 3 k for all night service.
How's the prices in KTVs these days. And the quality. Still Airforce 1 has good quality? Are there anything else worth mentioning?
Planing to head there next month. Thanks guys
Hi all where can I eat on good Friday?
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1554885]Hi all where can I eat on good Friday?[/QUOTE]The hotels are all open
I have to check out Havana Cafe and the Palladium next time.
LA cafe has a lot of girls, mostly older, lumpy and ugly. I took a girl all night for 1500 Php, added a tip. She was young and fresh, GFE, bareback BJ and sex all night. She was good.
The fishbowls in Ermita wanted 2000 Php, those in Makati wanted 4000 Php, negotiated down to 3000. The girl was nice, young, fresh and beautiful like a doll.
Manila is my favorite city for sex.
[QUOTE=StudBucket;1554525]I was in Makati earlier this year, and was able to get a nice looking girl out of Bronx Bar for a discounted bar fine of 2k (I had chatted up the mamasan and she gave me a discount). I did end up buying a couple of lady drinks and a bber for about an additional 800 pesos spent, and the girl cost 2k for all night. So, just for the girl the total damage was 4k. At this price, you are better off trying your luck at Havana Cafe or Palladium as I have had hot chicks there for 2 to 3 k for all night service.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1554959]The fishbowls in Ermita wanted 2000 Php, those in Makati wanted 4000 Php, negotiated down to 3000. The girl was nice, young, fresh and beautiful like a doll.
Manila is my favorite city for sex.[/QUOTE]Where are these fishbowls located?
On Good Friday, go below the girls' navels. You will find plenty of places to eat.
But sometimes you run into rotten fish. Hehe.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1554885]Hi all where can I eat on good Friday?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dkooau; 1554725]How's the prices in KTVs these days. And the quality. Still Airforce 1 has good quality? Are there anything else worth mentioning?
Planing to head there next month. Thanks guys[/QUOTE]Of course Airforce and Lala land and those places are really nice and typically fun.
But, I have been slumming it in Malate and actually had some great fun.
I fucked a girl in Orange 5 in the VIP. Mama wanted 1000 for VIP I paid 500. The girl was hot and drunk.
In 15 mins she was letting me finger her and getting her hot. Pulled on top of me and fucked her there.
They have a shit load of girls and some really hot. It can be a lot of fun slumming in that area. Just be carefull of the cockroaches.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1555043]Where are these fishbowls located?[/QUOTE]To Amjeck.
Did you know Luke is from Fantasy island he dream about stuff and make up story, he is just a newbie Lurker as we all know Fish bowl Sauna in Makati and Malate have been closed down more than 5 year in Manila.
Fast Eddie 48
Fart Eddie is an old, illiterate jerk, jealous of other posters, attacking with no reasons. Fart Eddie is so old he doesn't know his mouth from his ass, spewing crap from both!
Fart Eddie knows shit! FISHBOWLS are not closed. Even if Fart found the fishbowls, he would not know what to do. He's so old his dick shriveled and fell off years ago. He's just bullshitting trying to impress the newbies. This old guy is one of the rudest old Chinese guy with the worst manners on earth. His parents must have been Chinese trash, they did not care to educate him.
I gave the fishbowls instruction to a few bros, asking them not to abuse it. Not everyone wants to deal with illiterate jerks like FART EDDIE.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1556135]To Amjeck.
Did you know Luke is from Fantasy island he dream about stuff and make up story, he is just a newbie Lurker as we all know Fish bowl Sauna in Makati and Malate have been closed down more than 5 year in Manila.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1556529]Fart Eddie is an old, illiterate jerk, jealous of other posters, attacking with no reasons. Fart Eddie is so old he doesn't know his mouth from his ass, spewing crap from both!
<SNIP [/QUOTE]Better not to demean yourself by spewing abuse. Eddie is, I hope, by now a notorious troll on many threads in ISG. Best to expose his nonsense rather than spewing angry language. I intend to analyse his last few hundred postings for location. Might be interesting.
Regards,
Ko
[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1556556]Better not to demean yourself by spewing abuse. Eddie is, I hope, by now a notorious troll on many threads in ISG. Best to expose his nonsense rather than spewing angry language. I intend to analyse his last few hundred postings for location. Might be interesting.
Regards,
Ko[/QUOTE]To Old Fogy.
You are going to study what my last 100 post do you have a life, oh I forgot you are like Luke the Lurker both Old Fogy without a life just too much time in your hand someone will scope you up and buried it very soon.
Fast Eddie 48
Is it about Manila here or am I mistakenly in the Kindergarten-Thread?
Guys, if you don't like Eddies 2-liners, just simply ignore it and move on.
[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1556556]Better not to demean yourself by spewing abuse. Eddie is, I hope, by now a notorious troll on many threads in ISG. Best to expose his nonsense rather than spewing angry language. I intend to analyse his last few hundred postings for location. Might be interesting.
Regards,
Ko[/QUOTE]LukeSkyWalker is one of those wannabe BSDs that unfortunately inhabit anonymous forums. His posts (often condescending) are full of fiction, contradictions and distinctly non-amusing crap (he apparently thinks he is being humorous). If he is criticised or corrected, he descends into a well of vitriolic spew full of hatred and abuse. Indeed a sad person.
He tried to attack Fast Eddie on the China boards, but he got more than he bargained for and has not returned. But no doubt he will return one day to post more rubbish. It is the nature of the beast. Maybe best to ignore!
Cheers
P.S. You will not find fiction or fantasies in Fast Eddie's posts. He posts (at least in China) relevant on-the-ground up to date reports that are appreciated by the members, and has been doing so for at least 10 years.
[QUOTE=Ikksman; 1556565]LukeSkyWalker is one of those wannabe BSDs that unfortunately inhabit anonymous forums. His posts (often condescending) are full of fiction, contradictions and distinctly non-amusing crap (he apparently thinks he is being humorous). If he is criticised or corrected, he descends into a well of vitriolic spew full of hatred and abuse. Indeed a sad person.
He tried to attack Fast Eddie on the China boards, but he got more than he bargained for and has not returned. But no doubt he will return one day to post more rubbish. It is the nature of the beast. Maybe best to ignore!
Cheers.
P. S. You will not find fiction or fantasies in Fast Eddie's posts. He posts (at least in China) relevant on-the-ground up to date reports that are appreciated by the members, and has been doing so for at least 10 years.[/QUOTE]In the Indonesia forum Eddies contribution is limited to non-information and repeats of factoids that were posted earler by other members. Over the past years he has produced exactly zero field reports and zero pictures. When called upon to produce some original material he resorts to abuse in posts and pm's.
Regards,
Ko
[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1556797]In the Indonesia forum Eddies contribution is limited to non-information and repeats of factoids that were posted earler by other members. Over the past years he has produced exactly zero field reports and zero pictures. When called upon to produce some original material he resorts to abuse in posts and pm's.
Regards,
Ko[/QUOTE]Fair enough, I can only speak with regard to his China posts!
Cheers
[QUOTE=Ikksman; 1556820]Fair enough, I can only speak with regard to his China posts!
Cheers[/QUOTE]To Ikksman.
What can I say Ko is just a old F he is Jealous that I have many post and get to travel all over the world and I go to Jarkata twice a yr for business and was there 2 month ago and have a great time, I don't like to post any of my girl photo is private.
Fast Eddie 48
Fart Eddie posts a lot of repeat info from other bros, bragging to be in many places, knowing a lot of people, having a lot of contacts.
When the bros ask him for specifics, Fart would be evasive, talking around and around, never giving straight answers.
Fart is one of those dumb, low-class, illiterate guys who lie, cheat, steal, abuse. He has no shame!
These little spats between members that occasionally rear their ugly head are both juvenile and pathetic and do not contribute whatsoever to the spirit of this forum. People who resort to personal insults usually do so because they lack the intellectual ability to formulate a rational argument and have anger management issues.
Take your little dispute elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Python75;1557364]Take your little dispute elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Hear, fucking hear.
There are many of us here that I would call seasoned veterans. We all know who we are as we have all been here for many many years.
Then there's the proud young newbies who get laid once in Manila and think they know it all.
And then there's the trolls and those whose contributions on the Philippines boards lack depth clarity and perspective.
This has for many years been a good and active board with the occasional shit fight (think Daddy Warbucks, think Bender etc).
Right now the language is that of the playground. And many of us left the playground both figuratively and literally a long long time ago.
Give it a rest children, the adults are trying to sleep after last nights shagging.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1557259]Fart Eddie posts a lot of repeat info from other bros, bragging to be in many places, knowing a lot of people, having a lot of contacts.
When the bros ask him for specifics, Fart would be evasive, talking around and around, never giving straight answers.
Fart is one of those dumb, low-class, illiterate guys who lie, cheat, steal, abuse. He has no shame![/QUOTE]To Luke the Luker
So the truth is out this donkey PM many ask me question about SZ China and I reply for him to RTFF so he is mad at me for that, he is ask about name of Fishbowl sauna but he cannot answer and said he don't share with just anyone, the truth is he don't know of any because he never been to Manila.
Fast Eddie 48
I thought all the fish bowls were closed in Manila. Are they?
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1556529][ S N I P ] FISHBOWLS are not closed. [ S N I P ] I gave the fishbowls instruction to a few bros, asking them not to abuse it. [S N I P ][/QUOTE]LSW, As you are unwilling to post the location of the Fishbowl Saunas, I have the following suggestion.
PM the addresses of the fishbowl saunas to one or more of the senior posters here who will verify the existence, or otherwise, of these facilities. If those members are not in MM, they can delegate the tasks to other senior posters who are.
And post here the names of the members to whom you have PM'd the addresses.
Surely you do not have a problem with this!
I have my choice not dealing with RUDE, STUPID, ILLITERATE JERKS.
[QUOTE=Ikksman; 1558044]LSW, As you are unwilling to post the location of the Fishbowl Saunas, I have the following suggestion.
PM the addresses of the fishbowl saunas to one or more of the senior posters here who will verify the existence, or otherwise, of these facilities. If those members are not in MM, they can delegate the tasks to other senior posters who are.
And post here the names of the members to whom you have PM'd the addresses.
Surely you do not have a problem with this![/QUOTE]
Hello,
Lately I often stay at Marriot in Resorts World Manila.
I was wondering if there is a place to pick up girls in the complex?
As money usually attract girls I can't imagine RWM is an exception to the rule.
There must be a place to meet girls!
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1558132]I have my choice not dealing with RUDE, STUPID, ILLITERATE JERKS.[/QUOTE]Writing as a disinterested observer it seems to me that Ikksman's proposal was a reasonable one. The three adjectives and one noun tossed his way were uncalled for. I'm sure you can can do better.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1558132]I have my choice not dealing with RUDE, STUPID, ILLITERATE JERKS.[/QUOTE]Kindly exercise that choice by familiarizing yourself with the "ignore" button rather than crapping up this thread with your childish pissing match.
[QUOTE=Escort Fan; 1558147]Hello,
Lately I often stay at Marriot in Resorts World Manila.
I was wondering if there is a place to pick up girls in the complex?
As money usually attract girls I can't imagine RWM is an exception to the rule.
There must be a place to meet girls![/QUOTE]You can put on some nice clothes and go into Republiq (nightclub at resort world) , you also have a few bars around this place where girls can be met. Not a huge nimber of FL girls around but they are present. In my last visit I met one I earlier talked to at Havana in Republiq and she was an obvious FL girl. I also did meet a datingsitegirl I fucked earlier on stating she never did go out to have fun so I guess this was an rare event, hehe. I also hear some pickings can be had at the casino. I used to know a girl working there which I met through datingsite and she claimed workinggirls were present (I never been there though). Hope this helps a tad.
I believe Starwood Lounge has been mentioned from time to time here.
So I guess this would be of some interest to the honored board members:
[url]http://kickerdaily.com/nbi-rescues-13-filipinas-6-foreigners-in-an-alleged-pasay-city-sex-den/[/url]
Take care out there.
[QUOTE=Inlock; 1558954]I believe Starwood Lounge has been mentioned from time to time here.
So I guess this would be of some interest to the honored board members:
[url]http://kickerdaily.com/nbi-rescues-13-filipinas-6-foreigners-in-an-alleged-pasay-city-sex-den/[/url]
Take care out there.[/QUOTE]That article is extremely poorly written. In what way were the foreigners "rescued"? Did someone force them to partake of naked lap dances from these so-called "victims"?
RG
[QUOTE=Ikksman; 1558044]LSW, As you are unwilling to post the location of the Fishbowl Saunas, I have the following suggestion.
PM the addresses of the fishbowl saunas to one or more of the senior posters here who will verify the existence, or otherwise, of these facilities. If those members are not in MM, they can delegate the tasks to other senior posters who are.
And post here the names of the members to whom you have PM'd the addresses.
Surely you do not have a problem with this![/QUOTE]To Ikksman.
That is why Luke the Lurker are a LOSER no Job nothing better to do other than post fake report he got no Job nor answer,this is his report form TJ that is where he dream about being in ASIA one a usless donkey, Maybe you can ask him name of fishbowl in TJ .
LukeSkywalker.
Senior Member.
Reports.
447
LukeSkywalker.
My 10 years of unemployment.
I have been unemployed for the past 10 years.
I figure Dcell should give me at least 10 girls and 20 tacos for me to recover.
Or find me a job that pay enough so I can take 10 trips to Tijuana next month.
Hehe.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Radical Guy; 1558986]That article is extremely poorly written. In what way were the foreigners "rescued"? Did someone force them to partake of naked lap dances from these so-called "victims"?
RG[/QUOTE]Read again. The foreigners mentioned are girls from former cis, and working sans visa.
As for the victims being rescued as the place of work isn't right, the powers-be don't get it. The girls go due to lack of jobs. And to feed their family.
[QUOTE=Inlock; 1558954]I believe Starwood Lounge has been mentioned from time to time here.
So I guess this would be of some interest to the honored board members:
[url]http://kickerdaily.com/nbi-rescues-13-filipinas-6-foreigners-in-an-alleged-pasay-city-sex-den/[/url]
Take care out there.[/QUOTE]Pity I didn't know this place. Is there any similar club with lap dance in MNL?
Stupid, old, ugly and illiterate people tend to take everything literally.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1559041]To Ikksman.
That is why Luke the Lurker are a LOSER no Job nothing better to do other than post fake report he got no Job nor answer, this is his report form Tijuana that is where he dream about being in ASIA one a usless donkey, Maybe you can ask him name of fishbowl in Tijuana.
LukeSkywalker.
Senior Member.
Reports.
447
LukeSkywalker.
My 10 years of unemployment.
I have been unemployed for the past 10 years.
I figure Dcell should give me at least 10 girls and 20 tacos for me to recover.
Or find me a job that pay enough so I can take 10 trips to Tijuana next month.
Hehe.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
A few months ago I posted a FR on the newly opened Exclusiv nightclub (formerly Insomnia) in Adriatico Ave near Remedios circle in Malate. At the time of my FR the clientele was mainly Korean, just like how Insomnia was. Since then I've been going to Exclusiv once or twice a week and I'm pleased to report that the Korean klan has mostly moved away to Zzyzx. Exclusiv is now mostly Filipino with a handful or two of round-eyed westerners and it's a good vibe. There are some FLs there - watch out for the ladyboys, some of whom are stunning - but I recommend bringing your own girl. There's no cover charge and only once have I've been told there a minimum consumable charge of p2000 for a table. This was a bluff by the waiter to chisel me; since I had been going there very often, and keep bottles stored there, I knew it was nonsense so I disputed it and the waiter didn't mention it again. Most of the customers are doing beer buckets but I do bottle service, which runs from p1700 to p4000; mixers run approx p100 a can. Except for the one occasion when the waiter tried to fleece me I use the same waiter,"Marco", who is an attentive guy. Keep in mind that Thur-Sat is quite busy so if you're ordering one drink at a time you will end up waiting; it's advised to order a beer bucket or do bottle service. Sunday thru Wednesday the place is kind of dead unless it's the night before a holiday.
What's the noise level like Hut. In most places around there you can't even carry on a conversation.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1559588]What's the noise level like Hut. In most places around there you can't even carry on a conversation.[/QUOTE]Loud. Tough to have a group chat at tables closest to the dance floor. There are couches further away where one could converse with others when using a louder-than-normal voice.
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1559554]A few months ago I posted a FR on the newly opened Exclusiv nightclub (formerly Insomnia) in Adriatico Ave near Remedios circle in Malate. At the time of my FR the clientele was mainly Korean, just like how Insomnia was. Since then I've been going to Exclusiv once or twice a week and I'm pleased to report that the Korean klan has mostly moved away to Zzyzx.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the FR! So if I understand you correctly, you will not frequent a club just because a certain group of people go there? Koreans live to make the scene at the disco. I have noticed this from clubs in Olongapo to Cebu. They can be annoying but are tolerable. Is there a dress code at Exclusiv?
[QUOTE=Skogis;1558252]You can put on some nice clothes and go into Republiq (nightclub at resort world) , you also have a few bars around this place where girls can be met. Not a huge nimber of FL girls around but they are present.[/QUOTE]What bars are you referring to? The bars at the Marriott?
I'm sure the Huts will have his own reply, just my comments. In some cases when one ethnic or social group (especially male?) has an overwhelming majority, it can make others feel uncomfortable for a variety of reasons. Some of those reasons are justifiable, others are just male ego and envy issues, and of course there is racism.
As for race, does anyone besides me find the US basketball "scandal" hilarious. Rich old wrinkled guy tells his 20ish mistress, you can fuck AfAm guys, just don't show them in public. Sounds like a pretty open minded guy to me. LOL. I'm pretty sure I've told a few naughty ladies the same thing. I don't want to see your sex life on facebook.
[QUOTE=Buko Max; 1559708]Thanks for the FR! So if I understand you correctly, you will not frequent a club just because a certain group of people go there? Koreans live to make the scene at the disco. I have noticed this from clubs in Olongapo to Cebu. They can be annoying but are tolerable. Is there a dress code at Exclusiv?
What bars are you referring to? The bars at the Marriott?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man; 1560104]I'm sure the Huts will have his own reply, just my comments. In some cases when one ethnic or social group (especially male?) has an overwhelming majority, it can make others feel uncomfortable for a variety of reasons. Some of those reasons are justifiable, others are just male ego and envy issues, and of course there is racism.
As for race, does anyone besides me find the US basketball "scandal" hilarious. Rich old wrinkled guy tells his 20ish mistress, you can fuck AfAm guys, just don't show them in public. Sounds like a pretty open minded guy to me. LOL. I'm pretty sure I've told a few naughty ladies the same thing. I don't want to see your sex life on facebook.[/QUOTE]X Man,
Facebook! I don't think they get. I told the naughty love of my life that she should quit broadcasting every night she fucks a "cusoma." "Papa, you no know." "Baby, how many bedrooms do you have?" Took a few tries until the light bulb went off. When she did get it, half her pictures got deleted. LOL
[QUOTE=Buko Max;1559708]So if I understand you correctly, you will not frequent a club just because a certain group of people go there? Koreans live to make the scene at the disco. I have noticed this from clubs in Olongapo to Cebu. They can be annoying but are tolerable. Is there a dress code at Exclusiv?[/QUOTE]Having lived in Seoul for many years I witnessed and experienced some very racist behaviour from Korean males. This is more so for foreign men who date Korean women; Korean women are harassed and intimidated by their male co-ethnics for stepping out of line in betraying the race.
I've been coming to the Philippines for years and have seen the evolution of the club / bar business. For example there was never a two-tier system (girls for Koreans only here, girls for everyone else there) in LA Cafe in the mid-90s. What you have now is a very palpable division that has been created by Korean men; Pinays quickly learn that if they don't shun non-Koreans the word will spread amongst the Korean punters and she'll be shunned by them. I've also noted the emergence of standoffishness by these Korean-only Pinays. Given Filipinos are amongst the most socialable and friendliest people I've come across, the Koreanisation of Pinays brings some less desirable behaviours and attitudes. So given the choice to go to a club where Koreans dominate and one where they don't I'll choose the later.
For a dress code I don't recall seeing a sign posted at Exclusiv, but I reckon singlets and sandals are frowned on. Go with smart casual and you'll be fine.
Arrive in Manila in the morning (my first visit to Phils.) , I was very excited to pop my first cherry with a hot Filipina, but two things I had against me, one I went with my fiance back home (I had to, she paid for my airplane tickets) , so that meant she will be calling me 2-3 times a day to check me out when I was alone in Manila (she was in the province visiting her family) , most of her calls I never answer anyways but I had to call back within 2 hours or else she will get suspicious. The other thing I had against me is that I had to work 6-7 hours everyday the 5 days I was staying in Manila. Anyways I knew from the get go I couldn't have 2 dates per day, so I was contend to have one date per night.
First day after finishing my work I called this hottie I been chatting in FilipinoCupid. Com (all my dates were from that site, I had 60 phone numbers from the girls I chat 2 weeks prior to my trip). We made plans to meet in Robinson mall and go clubbing at Exclusiv nightclub, entrance was free but the beer was expensive (around 100 pesos) ended up spending only 1 hour there because we arrive early and nobody was dancing, we went to another nighclub the same thing, then we went to eat, then to the hotel but we got lost and ended up walking in the Manila Baywalk (where the homeless were sleeping) from Ermita all the way to Star City (almost Asia mall, LOL) she kind of knew we were going the wrong direction but she wanted to talk while walking the baywalk (I guess she wanted to decide if she wanted to sleep with me or not) , so we had to take a taxi back since we walk too far to the hotel. Anyways the good thing was that I pop my first cherry on my first night, she never asked me for money so I gave her 700 pesos for her taxi the next morning.
Second day I text another girl but this time I asked her to come early and cook for me, without hesitation she said yes and came within 2 hours, give her 1,000 pesos to go to Robinson Mall and buy food to cook for that day and for the next day, but I asked her to leave her purse with me in case she wanted to steal my money, after she left I check her purse and it was all garbage stuff that women have on their purse like lipstick, colgate, toobrush, an old hair iron, and other stuffs, I took a risk giving her money but I knew she was coming back because from what I saw on her purse it look like she was planning to sleep in the hotel. By the way she told me she was a model (she was tall and skinny) and 2 of her profile pictures were in a pasarella, but it looked more like a fashion show in a mall, anyways I didn't mind if she was lying to me because she still look hot. She was teasing me and texting me thank you for the 1, 000 pesos I'm home now, have a good day, LOL. Anyways after 1 hour she came back and bought lots of food and fruits and beer, my 1,000 pesos well spent. She cook adobo my favourite dish enough for that day and lunch for the next day. I knew it was about time we are going to have sex, so I put some music we started dancing and 5 minutes later we started kissing (I'm usually good when I dance with a girl and go for the kiss, I just tell them look at my eyes, I look into their eyes and see their soul and they all melt, I'm not bragging is something I been using over the years back home, so of course it will work in Phils too since the girls are easier than back home, by the way for this to work you have to be a good sensual dancer). Anyways that night we had sex 7 times, after the 5th time we felt sleep tired, we didn't even go out that night we stay in the hotel talking, having sex and lots of foreplay. The next morning we had sex 2 more times (one in the shower) but then my fiance calls me in the hotel's phone room, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] because I never answer her calls the day before, good thing by this time I already told this girl that I have a wife (that's what I tell all of them, even the girl from the day before, I told her after we had sex, so that when they leave they don't get their hopes up in case they want to have a serious relationship with me). Anyways at first this girl accepted and didn't made any noise while I was talking to my fiance, but later on she was a bit pissed (I gave her 1,000 pesos for her taxi, I kind of felt bad for lying to her). But after she left she kept texting me and was already making plans to meet that night since I told her to go clubbing the day before. I was upset that she kept insisting even thought I keep saying to her that I have a work meeting that night (of course I was lying just to get rid of her). Anyways good thing I only book for 2 nights, so that morning I had to hurry and book online for another hotel close by and I told her I was staying in Makati so she won't harass me.
Third day, after settling in my new hotel I worked for a few hours, and then call this other girl from the dating site I met, she is not skinny as the first 2 girls but not shabby either, she kind of look like Spanish her face and her big ass, this girl had been waiting for my call, so when I call her she came right away, within one hour she was at my hotel, I'm like you are too early I still have to work, but when I saw her big ass I said fuck it! Fuck my work! So we talk for 30 minutes and I told her that I have plans at 11 pm with some friends I met in the airport so we can only spend 3 hours together (of course it was a lie, I had another date) , all of the sudden she change her attitude and she was all touchie touchie, and telling me that she wants to come too, I'm like in my mind if she comes she will see that I'm meeting a girl and not some friends, so I said to her if we go dancing I will cancel my friends and we go dancing the both of us only, and she said yes, so I said let's dance first here cause I only go dancing with girls that are good dancers, so I put my music, work my magic and 5 minutes later we are kissing passionately, within 45 minutes that we met we are already having sex! We had sex in the living room, then minutes later in the bed, then minutes later in the shower (her big ass turn me on so much that I had 3 pops in less than 1 hour) , the 4th pop I did it without condom and when I took it out I came all over her hair and the wall, LOL. Anyways I had to call my date and cancel her, she got a bit [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] because she was on the way, but I promise her to go out tomorrow for sure, she understood. Oh man! I love the Philippines!
So we go to the same club Exclusiv nightclub, this time around we stay longer 2 hours (she had to work the next morning) , so back in the hotel we had another 2 hours of sex (I got 3 more pops) , and then we both pass out and fall sleep, at 6:00 am she wakes up (she only slept 3 hours) and got ready to go to work, me half sleeping half awake kiss her goodbye, but I forgot to give her money for her taxi, she never asked me or remind me. I'm thinking next time I see her I will make sure I give her (but I never saw her again).
Fourth day, I call early the girl I cancelled the day before, and I ask her if she can cook for me while I'm working, she said yes with the condition that she can bring her best friend, I'm like hell not! But at the end I feel bad about canceling her and say yes at the end. Big mistake, not only her friend was ugly but it was hard for me to develop any attraction with my date (who was hot and had big boobs, plus she had an amazing voice!) because her friend was always there in our conversations, so after eating I went to work (on my laptop of course that's where I work) make her wait for a while and call another girl to make a last minute date (earlier in the day I cancel this new girl, she wanted to meet in Mall of Asia, but I say let's meet tomorrow) , so when I call her at first she said is too late I made other plans already but then she says ok let's meet, so I took a long shower to make my two visitors tired of waiting me, and it worked because they are telling me that they are tired of waiting for me, and if they can go karaoke tomorrow instead, and I say sure (they didn't expect me to say that, LOL, I think they were testing me or something) , anyways so I tell them just wait for me to finish changing and we leave the hotel together, so we took a taxi and I told them I have to meet some friends in mall of Asia, and they are like: Can we come, I say: No! Only guys night out, even my friend is not bringing his gf. (I made her feel like it was her lost since she was the first one to cancel the karaoke night). Anyways they drop me first and I pay for the taxi to take them home, which was only 400 pesos more. Now in Mall of Asia this girl made me wait for 1 hour so that she can later tell me that she can not make it because she is already in bed, and that tomorrow for sure she will see me, she will even buy me drinks to make up for it, I'm like you better! (But I still took her out of my dating list). So it was already late almost 1 am, and I decide to finally visit LA Cafe. I was very surprise, it was the first time in my life I go to a Filipino Girl bar. Right away lots of girls are staring at me thinking fresh meat, let's take advantage of this newbie, so I started talking to this Filipino guy who's being friendly to me and bought me a beer but I know he is trying to scam me or rob me because he keeps telling me you pick a girl and I pick a girl and we go to a short hotel, don't go to your hotel a short hotel is better, I'm like WTF! So I finish the beer he buys me and then I say goodbye to him and I go upstairs, once upstairs 2 girls approach me we do some small talk but I'm not into them, until I saw this hot girl sitting alone, right away I call her, she comes to my table and we started talking, she is cute, sexy and can keep a conversation, unlike the other 2 girls. So we talk for like 1 hour and then I tell her: don't think because I'm a newbie you can take advantage of me, how much would you charge me? She is like I feel embarrass about asking for money (in my mind I'm like yeah right!) , so I say since you don't want to say a number I will say it: 1,000 pesos, and she is like too low let's make it 1,500 pesos and I spend the night in your hotel. So I say: if you are good in bed I give you 1,500 pesos but if you are not I give you only 1,000 pesos. She agrees and then we go. We spend the first hour in the hotel talking and then 2 hours of sex (we ended up going to sleep around 5:00 am). I wake up around 9:00 am and we had one last round of sex, when all of the sudden the phone rings, I answer and is the receptionist telling me you have another visitor, I'm like what visitor, she says is your fiance and she tells me her name. I'm like oh ssssshit! Can you please tell her to wait for me there. So at this time the freelancer and I are going cucu, she is like walking in circles looking for all her clothes and I'm doing the same trying to clean the room. 2-3 minutes later pass and we hear a knock at the door, is my fiance screaming my name, I took my time opening the door and I tell the girl to hide in the washroom. The first thing I said to my fiance is what are you doing here you suppose to come tomorrow not today what happened? She started crying telling me: she miss me and why I don't miss her, I'm like I do miss you is just that I'm surprise you are here, so we hug, and then she start questioning me why I took so long to open the door, and starts checking all the rooms first the kitchen, then the living room, then the bedroom, and when she was about to go to the washroom I yell at her: Baby let's go eat I'm so hungry my stomach is making noise, is only 5 minutes to 10 am, I'm going to miss my free breakfast. She believes me and then we go down to eat our breakfast (Close-close call!) , once downstairs I tell her wait me here I forgot the free breakfast coupons, so I go up and the girl is waiting in the elevator for me to pay her, I gave her 1,800 pesos (300 pesos more for hiding in the washroom, LOL). Anyways I had not choice to get rid off my phone and pack of condoms since my fiance was going to stay the night in the hotel, I feel bad getting rid off my phone (it was a cheap one only 1,100 pesos) but I had to since I didn't know how to mute the volume, and it kept ringing loud everytime I got a text or phonecall, I gave it to the first cleaning lady I saw, she was so happy, I told her get rid off the sim card and get a new one, she is like I have the same sim card don't worry, but later on I find out she show all my text of the girls I met to other people, and even the security guys were talking about me, but still they were all nice to me (because I always give them tip) , they never mention anything to my fiance even thought she is talking alot with them and the receptionists, even one security guy apologize for letting my fiance go into the lobby, she was suppose to stay in the cafeteria only but she sneak in to the elevator.
Oh man! This is too long of a report! Sorry guys I just like it when I see detail reports, my bad.
Anyways after that I spent my time in my fiance province visiting her family, then we went to Boracay for 6 days (Great Great time! The best part of my trip, but of course I couldn't get any girls because I was with my fiance all the time). I only had one more night that I had to work alone in Manila (I stay in Makati this time) , I made another date online for 9 pm (I didn't have a phone) but I was so tired from Boracay that I felt sleep and wake up at 9 pm, so I had to take a quick shower and go to McDonalds and meet her, but by the time I got there I was more than 1 hour late and she already left (it sucked that I didn't have a phone). Anyways while eating my McChicken I saw this pretty girl with an amazing body and a tight miniskirt eating alone, so I approach her, introduce myself and ask her if she can show me around since is my first time in Makati, she say sure and then we go, I was expecting her to take me to a nightclub (we were 2 blocks to Burgos) , so the first nightclub is a GoGo Bar were she used to work (she said as a bartender, but in my mind yeah right! You were a dancer) , we only drink one beer, then to the next one, that she used to work too (as a bartender, LOL) , again one beer only, the third one was the best, I met this hot dancer who won a pageant miss whatever. She was all over me touching me everywhere, took me to the washroom to blow me I think because she kept touching my penis, LOL, but I say no because people can see us, but we did make out for a while. Anyways my new friend was getting jealous that I wasn't paying attention to her (even thought they were friends) , I ask her for her phone number she give it to me, but my friend wrote it on her phone since I didn't have a phone, she asked me to call her at 6:00 am when she finish her work so she can come to my hotel (my hotel was only 2 blocks from Burgos) , because there was no way I will pay 4,000 pesos to take her out (it was not her price she said, it was the mamasan price because she was one of the most expensive in the bar). Anyways once my bill hit 1,000 pesos I say we have to go, so I left with my friend, to my hotel (by the way there are more homeless people in the 2-3 blocks of Burgos than there are in Ermita in 2-3 blocks, at least that's what I notice that night, maybe because in Ermita most people think I'm Filipino and they don't approach me, and in Makati I was with a bar girl all the time so they might notice I'm a tourist). Once I reach to my hotel I say to my friend, you can sleep at my hotel but I won't pay you because I already buy you alot of drinks, and she said is OK you don't have to pay me, so there we go another night of great sex (this time with a bar girl from Burgos on her day-off) , If I didn't forgot to ask my friend for the number of the bar girl I met in the last gogo bar I might had two freebies from two bar girls in a row, but who knows maybe she give me a fake number, specially since I'm a newbie in my first visit to Philippines.
[QUOTE=Steve Nash;1561188]Arrive in Manila in the morning (my first visit to Phils.) , I was very excited to pop my first cherry with a hot Filipina, [ S N I P ] If I didn't forgot to ask my friend for the number of the bar girl I met in the last gogo bar I might had two freebies from two bar girls in a row, but who knows maybe she give me a fake number, specially since I'm a newbie in my first visit to Philippines.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the effort you put into your commendable trip report. However, I did not read it all. In fact I read very little. It was too difficult for me to read.
There were paragraphs of up to 50 lines, and many very, very long sentences.
I sincerely recommend all members to keep their sentences short and limit paragraphs to an average of 5-6 lines. IN this way, one's eyes can easily follow the lines on the screen.
I am not flaming, but making a sincere recommendation to improve the enjoyment of this forum.
[QUOTE=Ikksman; 1561261]I sincerely recommend all members to keep their sentences short and limit paragraphs to an average of 5-6 lines. IN this way, one's eyes can easily follow the lines on the screen.
I am not flaming, but making a sincere recommendation to improve the enjoyment of this forum.[/QUOTE]Good advice, but take the time the to read it; some sections are quite funny.
[QUOTE=Steve Nash;1561188]when all of the sudden the phone rings, I answer and is the receptionist telling me you have another visitor,[/QUOTE]Thanks for the FR, the above part had me LFAO. I guess by now you figured out that you could have just shut your phone off, pulled the SIM, tossed it and deleted the contacts later, but as you said it was only a cheap phone to start with.
As Ikksman said, next time consider breaking your FR into smaller segments / reports or at least into smaller paragraphs.
Mr Nash: I laughed a lot from your report. Very funny! The girl hiding in the washroom brings back good / bad memories as I 10 uears or so tried to hide in a shower cabinet with frosty glass when my ex gf walked inside the bathroom. The girl I was doing just did not give a shit and walked outside pretty pissed I did not tell her I did have a gf. No comparison though to how pissed my gf became and that was probably the reason she is a long rime ex gf by now.
You seem maby somewhat above average cautious sending one girl away with 1000pisos with her leaving the bag as some sort of security to you (I mean we are not talking about a fortune here, more like approx US25. If you are lucky you can almost get a topped up paint of lager beer to that price during summertime in Oslo)..
My Recent gf (half pinay) has grandparents in phils (motherside). Not a million dollars would get me to travel with her and since she knows what is going on in phils from a monger point of view (I guess she must have read it somewhere, LOL) I would for sure hell not be allowed to stay alone. As far as my gf know I have never been to phils, even if I have been there many times by now (stealthmode and a fair bit of lying do the trick). What can your gf / wife whatever expect? It is like leaving a kid in a candystore alone for a few days telling not to touch anything.
Anyway keep up the good work.
[QUOTE=Steve Nash;1561188]Arrive in Manila in the morning (my first visit to Phils.) , I was very excited to pop my first cherry with a hot Filipina,[...][/QUOTE]An enjoyable read. You had a lot of good adventures and danced on the precipice.
[QUOTE=Steve Nash;1561188]We made plans to meet in Robinson mall and go clubbing at Exclusiv nightclub, entrance was free but the beer was expensive (around 100 pesos) ended up spending only 1 hour there[...][/QUOTE]P100 for a beer is a very good price-that's cheaper than LA Cafe. You really don't want to hit that place until after midnight, and often weeknights aren't very good. I was there Sat AM at 2:30 or so and it was packed. Then some overhead lights over the dance floor burst into flames. A couple of bouncers shot the fire extinguishers; this killed the flames but the chemicals coated the place causing a bit of a panic as everyone rushed to the front door to get fresh air.
[QUOTE=Steve Nash;1561188]By the way she told me she was a model (she was tall and skinny) and 2 of her profile pictures were in a pasarella, but it looked more like a fashion show in a mall, anyways I didn't mind if she was lying to me because she still look hot.[/QUOTE]A lot of girls are models (and beauty-pageant contestants too) , except they really aren't professional models who are making a career of it. More like pursuing a never-to-be-realised dream sold to the gullible by modeling schools.
[QUOTE=Steve Nash;1561188]I feel bad getting rid off my phone (it was a cheap one only 1,100 pesos) but I had to since I didn't know how to mute the volume, and it kept ringing loud everytime I got a text or phonecall,[...][/QUOTE]I've found it's best to always have my mobile on vibrate. It reduces a lot questions.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1561298]What can your gf / wife whatever expect? It is like leaving a kid in a candystore alone for a few days telling not to touch anything.[/QUOTE]Speaking of expectations... there is a flip side, yeah? Perhaps she was having her very own adventures. ;)
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1561462]Speaking of expectations. there is a flip side, yeah? Perhaps she was having her very own adventures. ;)[/QUOTE]Hehe Huts, you are the man. Don't get him all paranoide so early. On the other hand it seems like he was having fun himself so he could realy not complain. I have told myself if I catch my gf cheating me I will be very humble and understanding.
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1561462]Speaking of expectations. there is a flip side, yeah? Perhaps she was having her very own adventures. ;)[/QUOTE]That's what I told my fiance: I saw all your pictures on facebook, going to the swimming pool, malls, karaoke bar with your family having fun, and MEEEEEE! I had to stay alone on my hotel room working hard and ordering room service meals because I'm afraid to go outside Ermita, is too dangerous for me, my first time in an Asian country!
By the way Skogis, I'm planning to go to Manila again on January or February but this time with 2 friends (they both want to go after I told them my adventures). But I'm trying to come up with a plan to convince my fiance to let me go to Philippines for 2-3 weeks. Since you have done this many times can you tell me what to do and what to say to her? By the way we live together so we are common-law partners.
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1561456]P100 for a beer is a very good price-that's cheaper than LA Cafe. You really don't want to hit that place until after midnight, and often weeknights aren't very good. I was there Sat AM at 2:30 or so and it was packed. Then some overhead lights over the dance floor burst into flames. A couple of bouncers shot the fire extinguishers; this killed the flames but the chemicals coated the place causing a bit of a panic as everyone rushed to the front door to get fresh air.[/QUOTE]WOW! I wish I was there, must be fun after 2:00 am! The latest I stay there was until 1:00 am and it was getting pack, I only left because my date had to work the next day. Maybe instead of going to LA Cafe I should had gone to Exclusiv nightclub.
About the beer price, it was more than 100 pesos, don't remember how much, but I think it was 150 pesos. I'm just used to paying 60 to 70 pesos for 1 liter of Red Horse.
[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger; 1561266]Good advice, but take the time the to read it; some sections are quite funny.
Thanks for the FR, the above part had me LFAO. I guess by now you figured out that you could have just shut your phone off, pulled the SIM, tossed it and deleted the contacts later, but as you said it was only a cheap phone to start with.
As Ikksman said, next time consider breaking your FR into smaller segments / reports or at least into smaller paragraphs.[/QUOTE]Good suggestion about taking out the SIM card and keeping the phone, I wish I had practice before how to turn it off, how to put it in vibrate and how to open it and take out the SIM card. At that time, with my fiance waiting for me to eat breakfast I didn't know what to do. I like the cheap phones because they do the job of texting and calling only, but I hate it that they are difficult to learn how to do the other things.
About my report overall, sorry guys that I made it too long, I always enjoy reports that are very detail. Like you said I should have made the paragraphs smaller. But I'm glad that at least 3 out of 4 people enjoy my report.
With time I will get better writing my reports, and also get better dating Filipinas. My goal for my next trip is to get laid twice a day while I'm in Manila, hopefully on my next trip I don't have my boss sending me work online.
It was a long read. I thank you for taking the time to post your own story. Happy hunting
[QUOTE=Steve Nash;1561188]Oh man! This is too long of a report! Sorry guys I just like it when I see detail reports, my bad.[/QUOTE]Nice report. Good luck with that marriage thing. AR
[QUOTE=Steve Nash;1561491]By the way Skogis, I'm planning to go to Manila again on January or February but this time with 2 friends (they both want to go after I told them my adventures). But I'm trying to come up with a plan to convince my fiance to let me go to Philippines for 2-3 weeks. Since you have done this many times can you tell me what to do and what to say to her? By the way we live together so we are common-law partners.[/QUOTE]I don't have an invented line I tell her buts lets say my travelling is more like keeping up with my habits as I used to travel up to 300days a year when we first met. I have lowered this number to lets say 200 to 250 days so she is quite happy about this. I tell her mostly som BS me looking for new places to do investments (real estates). I am not allowed to travel to phils though as she has found out what is going on here (she is half pinay by the way but borned and raised in my country). So this part is the toughest as I allways has to hide passport (stamps) or conveniently "loose" my passport(hide it at my office or at my parents place)or get new ones relatively frequent. Every electronic device such as Ipad,mcomputer, phones etc are prepped, as in answeringmachines and locators are switched off. I am also careful and removes all boardingcards and baggage tags before walking through the door back home.
Unlike your spouse i am quite happy me and gf have worked out a rather comfortable contactregime as in maby a msg in the morning and a good night msg at night(mandatory). Except from the nighty one it is no crises if i forget. Sometimes if drunk i forget the nighty one and then she get pissed(which i allready am, hehe). I try not to call her but keep the communication while i am abroad to a minimum and if sth important skype is beeing used.
I think the main thought around hiding ones mongeringgames is all about habits and not changing them. Girls are sensitive to changes in habits so i just keep up what i have been doing the last 7 years. I am a very laidback person and takes thing as they come and while beeing extremely aroused by lets say a upcoming mongertrip on my inside, i keep a calm fasade to my girl. Sometimes even act like "i realy dont wanna go but you know business". I know ofcourse i can not stop what i am doing and eventually i will get caught. But until then let us have a ball
[QUOTE=Skogis; 1561647]I don't have an invented line I tell her buts lets say my travelling is more like keeping up with my habits as I used to travel up to 300days a year when we first met. I have lowered this number to lets say 200 to 250 days so she is quite happy about this. I tell her mostly som BS me looking for new places to do investments (real estates). I am not allowed to travel to phils though as she has found out what is going on here (she is half pinay by the way but borned and raised in my country). So this part is the toughest as I allways has to hide passport (stamps) or conveniently "loose" my passport (hide it at my office or at my parents place) or get new ones relatively frequent. Every electronic device such as Ipad, mcomputer, phones etc are prepped, as in answeringmachines and locators are switched off. I am also careful and removes all boardingcards and baggage tags before walking through the door back home.
Unlike your spouse I am quite happy me and gf have worked out a rather comfortable contactregime as in maby a msg in the morning and a good night msg at night (mandatory). Except from the nighty one it is no crises if I forget...[/QUOTE]Great advice Skogis! You are the man!
You are a lucky bastard! You get to travel alot! I wish I can travel for 100 days a year (during the winter) , more than that I will get bored and I will miss the summer and parties back home. But unfortunately (an unlike you) I can only afford to travel 2-3 weeks per year, maybe I need to find a temporary freelance job abroad since 100% of my work is online and I can do it anywhere in the world as long as I have internet.
So what can I do and what can I say to my fiance, we are suppose to go to my country next year, but now I want to go to Phils with my friends instead. I come up with a plan only one, but it involves alot of luck, alot of lying, and alot of obstacles. So will see what happens!
If anyone has any suggestions please let me know.
[QUOTE=Steve Nash;1561692].[/QUOTE]My hat is off to you guys that can pull this off. I never could so I just have a brown sugar come over and visit me 3 or 4X a month here in the USA and save up for my trips abroad. American women just aren't worth putting up with anyways. Once you are used to the sweet, sexy twenty-somethings it is difficult to pound these overweight bitchy motor mouths we have here. As for the dozens of beautiful Filipinas (occasionally Thais, Viets, Cambos, Indos and some Latinas) I see abroad I just tell them I am looking at property on different islands which is true. Plus being in academia I am blessed to attend conferences in those areas once a year or even teach a condensed course there. Maybe find a conference related to your job that you can go to. Happy horndogging!
[QUOTE=Steve Nash;1561188]Arrive in Manila in the morning (my first visit to Phils.) , I was very excited to pop my first cherry with a hot Filipina, but two things I had against me, one I went with my fiance back home (I had to, she paid for my airplane tickets) , so that meant she will be calling me 2-3 times a day to check me out when I was alone in Manila (she was in the province visiting her family) , most of her calls I never answer anyways but I had to call back within 2 hours or else she will get suspicious. The other thing I had against me is that I had to work 6-7 hours everyday the 5 days I was staying in Manila. Anyways I knew from the get go I couldn't have 2 dates per day, so I was contend to have one date per night.[/QUOTE]Hello Steve,
Cool report. Well done. Good luck with next trip.
Joe
Just back from my brief, but memorable cherry visit to Manila and would like to share a few thoughts in passing. Unfortunately it wasn't much of a tour of duty, as I only spent a few days and will consider this tour, more of a scouting and reconnaissancetrip. However brief, it was definitely, very enjoyable and a lot of fun.
[B]Airport:[/B] Arrived midday at Manila Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) and passed through customs quite easily and quickly. No hold-ups, huge crowds or long line-ups to speak of, so all went well and I emerge on the other side of customs inspection / check, with bags in tow, after less then 30 minutes. After hearing the horror stories about NAIA (being on of the worst airports in the world) , I thought this wasn't too bad at all, what's all the fuss about. As I found out later from the taxi driver, it just so happens I arrived on the day of a holiday, so perhaps I got lucky at NAIA.
[B]Changing Money:[/B] Decided to exchange a few hundred US$ dollars at the airport (about 44. 20) to get started, but later learned I could have definitely gotten a better deal (about 45. 0) from some of the many money exchange places, dotted throughout the downtown landscape. So next time, I'll probably only exchange about US$50, and use the downtown money exchangers, for larger sums to get the best deal.
Also noted it was a little annoying that the ATMs only dispensed P10, 000 (US$260) , which of course leads to those annoying bank fees, int'l bank ATM fees and exchange rate transaction costs. Yes, I realize that when using the ATMs, you're also paying for convenience, but I am just trying to minimize these costs as much as possible. At times it seemed like I was at the ATMs every day, like clockwork. Although, having P10, 000 seems like a lot of money, initially. It sure can disappear quickly. Not complaining though, as I had a great time spending it.
Does anyone know of an ATM that dispenses more than the daily allotment of P10, 000? If not, then I guess the next best thing is just to bring more US$ dollars, to avoid as many ATM withdrawals and in turn, the bank fees.
[B]Taxi Cabs at NAIA:[/B] Most of the quotes for fares from the airport were between P700-500. So I'd like to take the opportunity to thank the ISG members whom tipped me to the idea of taking a taxi from departures level. Great tip, saved me a few pesos and goes to show it pays to RTFF. So I caught an inbound white taxi dropping of a passenger on the departure on-ramp and it worked liked a charm. Just tried to remember (3) things; one (1) asked for the meter, two (2) check to see if they cleared the previous passenger's old fare and three (3) make sure the meter it's not running fast (if it's a daytime pickup. If any one these conditions are not met, then grab another taxi.
While, heading to my hotel from the airport, traffic was fairly light and tolerable. According to the driver, road traffic (on this holiday afternoon) was nothing compared to regular days. But I definitely thought otherwise. Cost of taxi was P160, but after listening to the cab driver's sob / family stories (albeit they were somewhat entertaining) , I tipped him another P100. This seem to be somewhat of a preoccupation with taxi drivers, as well as the constant nagging for a tip. I heard a myriad of sob stories to the point of exhaustion, while on my stay, especially from those cab drivers in Manila. Perhaps a Pinoy pastime with tourists? Much like Brazilians ('jeitinho') , who revel in the game of being able to 'take-a-gringo' for as little or much money as possible. LOL!
[B]LA Cafe at 2pm:[/B] I was so excited, I didn't even bother unpacking after arriving. Checked-in, shower quickly and headed straight for LA Cafe (formally MBC). Over the next couple of days and nights spent in Manila, LA Cafe was by far my favourite club / bar. This great little bar provides a nice balance between beer bar, night club (live band) , pool table games, grill / restaurant and sexy Pinoy girls. The only thing missing is a nice go-go-bar area with rooms to match. But really, all things considered, it covers most of the basics any dude could want, all in one place. 24HRS a day. Not too mention at reasonable price!
It was about 2pm, in the afternoon, when I arrived at LA Cafe (on this holiday day) and the line-up of girls wasn't great, but over the next hour or so, things greatly picked up. Spotted a cute dark skinned, sweet sexy spinner, named Sarah. And after a good initial interview, I knew she'd be my first Pinoy. After spending a couple more hours chatting, playing pool and grabbing a bit to eat, we headed back to the hotel. We had agreed on P1500 for short time (2hrs) , but since she turned out to be even more fun, we agreed upon an additional P1000 for longtime, until about 10 am the next day. We bought some ice, booze, and several snacks at the local 7-11 and had a great little party in back at the hotel. (That reminds me, if I never see another 7-11, it'll be too soon).
We sessioned a couple of times before she went home for a change of clothes, came back and we then headed to ZZYZX Disco (pronounced Zee-six and is located within walking distance from the Rothmans Hotel off Adriatico St. At the traffic circle). Although it was a fun, but exhausting fun-filled night out on the town, I mange to session with this sexy Pinoy one more time, before she left that morning.
For the couple days I spent in Manila, this was to be place I frequented the most. I found what I was looking for in LA Cafe, which was basically to have a good time, session with several sexy girls, eat, drink and be merry, without too much running around, looking for P4P in the Manila traffic. Even while hobbying in AC, this was to be my modus operandi (MO). Didn't have too many expectations, other then getting laid by sexy Pinoys at least once a-day (can't believe I'm writing once-a-day, must be getting old, LOL).
The line-up of girls in LA Cafe didn't disappoint. Even though it had more than it's fair share of fuglies, there was definitively more than enough variety of hot, sexy girls to satisfy my every taste and devilish wimps, AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY. Albeit, not enough real time to sample and checkout all the girls, so subsequent trips are a MUST.
[B]LA Cafe at 8. 00 AM:[/B] Coming back from an early morning trek (8am) from the Makati area, I remembered reading an ISG report, about an early morning walk, some orange juice (OJ) and somehow ending up at LA Cafe. Anyway while taking a taxi back from Makati, this story popped into my head. So I figured 'why not? ', and directed to taxi driver to take me to LA Cafe instead, so I could get some of my own early morning OJ.
Unfortunately, there's just no getting around the Manila traffic. As at 8am, the downtown traffic was just horrific and annoyingly slow. Anyway not to worry, my traffic blues soon turned into Pinoy OJ smiles. As I walked though the doors at LA Cafe, I was pleasantly surprised at a fair number (about 15) girls, still milling about. Needless to say, out of the lineup of girls still there. 2 or 3 were very doable. Five (5) min. Later, found a hot light skinned Pinoy by the name of Letica. She was a bit of a pro, but had a terrific pretty little ass, that was very inviting in spandex. So after a round of San Miguel Light, a quick interview, an agreed upon P1500 (ST) , it was back to the hotel. She gave pretty good performance in the 1. 5 hrs and left me with a wonderful early morning OJ smile. Awesome, especially after a fruitless hard night's work, in Makati (see below).
[B]ZZYZX Club (Malate / Ermita) :[/B] I had a great time here with my first time Pinoy GFE, Sarah. It's located at the just off Adriatico St. (by the Remedios Circle) and just around the corner from V Hotel (formally the Rainbow Hotel) , which I stayed at. Note, due to the thin walls at V-Hotel, one could even hear the heavy bass playing from the club. ZZYZX has fairly decent music, playing mostly techno with some hip-hop. Looked liked it had some FLs, but couldn't have been too certain, as most of the girls were in groups and therefore possibly just out hanging out, having fun. Since I was with a date, I didn't look to hard. Drinks were reasonable P100 for San Migel Light (I think). Free entrance fee that night (Monday). Closes like 5 or 6am (I think). Very friendly and courteous staff, that went out of their way to my me feel very comfortable.
[B]Salsa St. FL / SW (across the road f / LA Cafe) :[/B] While heading to LA Cafe (from the Silver Oaks Hotel) , on Salsa St, there was a nice lineup of cute young girls, hanging out in one of those make-shift street food dining areas. So one time while walking down Salsa, this shrimpy looking mamasan with little to no teeth was pimping these girls with her broken English. It was all quite funny actually. But I notice a couple of really very doable and nice young girls, that I was thinking of taking. Mamasan was asking P3000 (ST. 1hr) , for the real cutie 19yr old, because she was a "new girl". She then offered P2500 (ST. 1hr) , but my very brief interaction (or interview) with the girl, left me feeling like she might be a starfish and I was kinda looking for a LT session. Mamasan keep pressing the girl (I guess she wanted her commission, badly) , but the girl didn't seem interested.
So your luck of finding SWs on Salsa St. Will vary, as I encountered a number of them at various times on my way to LA Cafe. Also the quality will vary, but definitely some cute girls can be found, as I did on one occasion. However, it should be noted (much like AC) , that after hours at night the LBs and TVs tend to take over the Malabini St. And Salsa St corner area.
[B]DCZAR KTV:[/B] After some much need rest, I woke up around 2:30 am and for some strange reason decide to walk around to check things out, maybe get a bite to eat. Well before you know it I get propositioned by a tout selling a tour to a number KTVs and / or will naturally provide whatever it is that suits my fancy. Normally I ignore these guys, but with nothing else really better do at 2am, I decide to indulge in the conversation some more and hear him out.
Next thing I know, we're taking a P80 taxi ride to DCZAR KTV, with the promise of nude dancers, hot girls and a good time. From what I've read KTVs, do not offer nudity, so I thought that perhaps I would be reporting on a new location with something different to offer verses the other KTVs around the Adriatico St. Area (which were all within walking distance of my hotel). This was to be my first KTV and I had my doubts whether this type of adult entertainment, would be something I'd like, due to the number of reports I've previously read about KTVs. But I'm open to new things, and thought I'd give it a try.
From Malate / Ermite, DCZAR KTV, is about a 5-10 min. Drive away, at night. It is a large size KTV, with a reception area, lounge area, huge stage, large roomy theater style seating and upwards of 10 or more private cabins. In addition to what I thought was a poor attempt at burlesque style decor, the bad carpeting, smelly mildew odor and uncomfortable large layout, immediately turned me off as I entered the joint and felt it was all just a little cheesy.
IMHO, the floor show was terrible. It's almost like they were trying to present this kind of dance recital, with partial nudity. Which again, IMHO, came off looking pathetic, lame and cheesy. Not sure if the full-Monty was ever achieved, as I left maybe 10 minutes after arriving. Frankly is was that type of show where the girls, were more interesting with their clothes on. The line-up of girls from what I remember weren't anything special. And due to poor lighting, it was difficult to see the girls.
The only good thing I can say, was that all costs / prices were explained to me upfront, before entering and any and all questions were answered by management. There was no attempt to deceive me or dupe me into paying costs unknown. So I knew what I was heading into. For my quick 10 minute stay, my total cost was about P1, 000.
• KTV entrance fee is P500. Plus you must purchase at least 1-drink minimum (I paid P150 for water, I think)
• Plus Taxes of 10% Industry Tax, + plus 12% VAT, is applied on top of your final bill. (22% Tax is mandatory)
• So once you step foot inside and sit down, the minimum you'll pay is about P800)
• P800 / hr for private KTV cabin with girl. (Didn't session with any girls, so I am unaware of what type of behavior or activities are acceptable with the girls)
• Taxi P100 (tip incl.) , tout P50 (since I figured he would also get a commission from the KTV)
Personally, I found DCZAR KTV, to be just lame! It was a complete rip-off and waste of money. But I had my suspicions about KTVs and more or less knew what I was getting into. However, I just wanted to see for myself (ie, scratch the itch so to speak). So time well spent. I knew KTV's wasn't going to be my thing (given most of what I've read here on ISG) , although this club was probably not the best example of what could be an enjoyable experience, given the right circumstances. At some point I will definitely try KTVs again, but presently in no rush to do so.
[B]Apartment / Casa Girls at 4am: [/B]After my uneventful visit to DCZAR KTV, I decide to take another side trip to a casa / apartment (or cathouse / brothel). It was about 3:30am in the morning, so I'm not sure if the selection of girls was reflective of the time of day, but the girls were mediocre at best. The taxi driver took me to a casa located at the corner of Edison St. And Faraday St. (Makati). We went into a small compound type place, with small steel warehouse nondescript type doors. One of the security / doormen escorted us into small living room area that seemed to double as a waiting area. As I entered, there were a few girls lounging around, half awake and moments later a few more sauntered in, to form a line-up (about 8 in total) , so that I could take a good look at them all.
Papasan / handler quoted me P4000 for takeout from 4 am until about 8am (could have been 8am the next day, but I don't think it was). I declined the offer and didn't see anything worth negotiating a lower price for. Not to mention the price of P4000, for 4 hours seemed absurd. Especially considering the girls at LA Cafe were a lot nicer (IMHO) , cheaper and willing to sit with you and establish a rapport, while you interviewed them. The seating area in the casa made it difficult to hold any kind of private interview with the girls, which I prefer to do given the chance.
I've read that you can truly find some beauties at these places and apparently Makati is littered with them and a few can be found in Ermita. I know those who really like 'casa girls', like them, because unlike LA Cafe or the go-go bars, you can cut through the BS and whichever girl you pick, will indeed go home with you for the entire evening and night. You basically have until the morning to be with them, in which ever way you deem appropriate. So if you're heading out for a night on the town, catching a show or just shacking-up back at your hotel for the night, it's totally up to you. I can see the appeal and will in all likelihood give it a try again.
Next time, I'll really need to do more exploring, before making a final decision on 'casa girls'. Also it seems, I'll need to get there before 7pm, before the Koreans and Japanese scoop up the best of the bunch. So maybe 4am isn't exactly a good time for acquiring a nice sexy casa girls and I should confine my hunting to the daytime. For the moment all I can report is, that the 4am selection was far from good and IMHO not even worth the taxi drive out there.
[B]Makati Area Go-Gos and Streetwalkers at 4am:[/B] 4am to 7am in the morning, is perhaps not the best time to checkout this area either, but there was sufficient action to entertain oneself. Many go-go bars, clubs and restaurants were still open for business, with a fair number of patrons. Walked around and noticed, a small number of SW, hustlers and touts selling their wares. Not sure the reason behind it, but many of the SWs would initially offer to give you 'a massage' and then when pushed on the subject of providing FS, would ever so gingerly discuss FS options. Almost as if they thought I was a LE agent. Anyway most of the SWs in this area, were below average (at 4am) and quoted between P500 for a short time massage to P1500 for FS.
Although I never felt threaten or unsafe walking around Makati between the hours of 4am and 7am, take note that the area seems to be overrun primarily by TV\LBs, until about 7-8am when the working stiffs are heading back to work. The whole situation is kind of hilarious actually and ultimately reminds me of one of favourite songs,"The Freaks Come Out at Night" by Whodini.
Visited several of the go-go bars, that were still open and took a quick look around, but didn't stay more than 5 min. At any particular establishment. I wasn't really in the mood to stay and hunt in the go-go bars at this time, so I can't really report on much of anything, except to say, I did think the girls were slightly better looking than those at LA Cafe, but had more of a snooty attitude. Not enough time to fully tell, so l'll leave it on my 'to-do bucket list' for next time.
Also perhaps for next time, I'll try staying a hotel, out this way for a couple of days, to really suss out the area. The Makati area, looks like a worthwhile endeavor and full of P4P action and seems like a good place to meander for a few days. Bumped into a fair number of tourists (even at 4am) , so it can be too bad.
[B]Time Disco / Club (Makati) : [/B]Stumbled on this club about 4am in the morning, while checking out the Makati area and walking around, strolling down Makati Ave (I think). Outside the club, I noticed several tourists (guys and gals) taking a smoke and chatting in what appeared to be an Aussie accent. Note even at 4am, I still had to pay a P300 entrance fee, but at least it did include 1-drink. Drink / beer prices are reasonable and a San Miguel was P150. Pretty sure there are freelancers (FL) semi-pro action, as was evident with one really nice big breasted Pinoy teasing, flirting and rubbing up against several of the Aussie of guys. Most of the girls seemed to dress slightly better than those in LA Cafe, but not necessarily that much prettier, IMHO.
Saw quite a few ladyboys (LB) and one of them came up to me unsolicited and whispers P7000 in my ear and then, just like a snake slithers off back into the crowd, from whence he / she came. Wow that was very weird! Anyways not sure what to make of it, so I just ignore it for the most part. But I was definitely on my guard at that point and my 'gaydar' set on high. Despite the LBs, there were more than a few nice girls there for a Tuesday night and more seem to stream-in even later toward 5am. My guess was that this club perhaps gets a number of the girls from the Makati go-gos (and LBs) , after their shifts are over.
Didn't know what type of club it was or what to expect, but it turned out to be a good time spent. On the way out the doorman confirmed it was a straight / gay bar. Overall good music (mostly techno and trance) , OK club, with a decent balanced-mix of tourists, locals, straight people and gays.
[B]Getting from Manila to Angeles City (AC) :[/B]
• From Manila Airport (NAIA). There is a way by bus from NAIA, but wouldn't recommend this option, as it is a bit of hassle and doesn't really save you that much on time or money. If you want the "no hassles" route, simply catch a taxi dropping of passengers upstairs on the departures level. Taxi fare to Victory Liner. Pasay Bus Depot should be no more than P200. Note: There are also other bus lines that go to AC, like Philippine Rabbit, Five Star, Dagupan and have their own bus depots in the Pasay. So let the taxi driver know which specific bus depot your going to, if you have a preference.
• From Malate / Ermita. I choose to take a taxi (P150) from my hotel in Ermita to Victory Liner bus depot in Pasay ([url]www.victoryliner.com[/url]). The trip by taxi was about a 20 minutes, at roughly 10:30am, to avoid rush hour type traffic.
• Victory Liner Bus Depot. At Victory Bus Terminal, there maybe 2 types of bus fares; a non-stop express and a regular fare, for between P120-150 [US$3-4]. Take the Victory Line bus w / air con, to Dau. The buses to Dau (Angeles City) leaves on the hour and sometimes each 1/2 hour. The Victory Line, Dau bus depot, is the final / last stop and is actually located 1. 5 km North of AC and the Fields Ave entrance just off the MNR (MacArthur) Highway. From the Dau (Mabalacat) bus depot / terminal, you can take a trike (P100) directly to your hotel or jeepney (P8-15) to the San Fernado / Maingate Jeepney Terminal. The taxi option is about P2-300. If you take the jeepney option (to San Fernado / Maingate Jeepney Terminal) , you'll have to walk, take another trike (P50-100) or jeepney (P10) to your hotel. Best to use this option until you become familiar with AC.
• Online Reviews of Rabbit Buses. Philippine Rabbit have air con buses to Angeles City (in Pampanga Province) , that leave every 30 min, cost P90-120 and the trip takes about 90 min. In AC the bus terminates at their bus station on Henson St, which is located (3. 2 km. 5 min by car) due south of the Fields Ave / MNR (MacArthur) Highway entrance. [Not yet sure about trikes / jeepneys and cost from this location] Note: Online on Facebook previous patrons of the bus line service, really pan the bus line and sound-off about the smell and the dilapidated prehistoric condition of the buses. As one guy puts it,". Coffins on wheels.". Also pan'd here: [url]http://tourism-philippines.com/philppine-rabbit-bus-lines/.[/url] So not very good reviews with Philippine Rabbit, so best stick with Victory Liner, where possible.
Note: In hindsight, it may have been better to simply take the bus from Swagmans (Manila) to AC, as I'm told they'll drop you at or close to your hotel. I was travelling light, so all the transfers from taxi, to bus, to trike (and jeepney, to bus, to taxi) , did bother me too much. But I imagine, if you're travelling with large or cumbersome baggages, then a taxi (P2500-3000) or the Swagman bus (P600) options, may best suit or needs.
[B]Getting Back to Manila from Angeles City (AC) :[/B]
• On the trip back, simply take your preferred method to transportation to Dau Bus Depot / Terminal and catch whatever bus (P140) is going to Pasay, Manila. You may have a bus line preference, but it's OK to catch any bus going back to Pasay, Manila, as they all take you to Pasay. On the way back (I forget which line I took but) , the bus driver was letting passengers off at various places, like Mataki and Guadalupe. I got off somewhere in Pasay but it was not at the final stop, so I'm not exactly sure where the final bus stop is located. Once in the Pasay area, just ask the driver to let you off at the nearest stop and then take a taxi to the airport or your hotel in Malate / Ermita.
[B]Carriedo Station Area: [/B] On a Thursday evening about 6pm, I decided to checkout the Carriedo area SWs. Despite it being rush hour, passenger traffic on the LRT (P12) wasn't too bad at all and was quite tolerable. To get to Carriedo Station, I walked (about 15-20 min) from my hotel up Gil Pedro and Taft Ave. I took the northbound LRT train (at Gil Pedro Station) and got off 3 stops later at Carriedo. Once on the ground, I became disoriented somewhat and ended up walking through the market place on Carreido St. Which turned out to be a nice surprise and a welcome break from the norm.
The market place on Carriedo St. Runs from Rizal Ave to the Quiapo Church, located at the end of the street. I found this to be a very interesting place filled with, street vendors, clothing stores, restaurants and budget shopping malls selling a wide range of goods and services. Also located, albeit in an overall congested area, are two prominent department stores, the Isetann Department Store and a SM Clearance Store. So after about 2hrs walking around and checking things out, I bought a nice fake battery operated Seiko watch for P150 ($3. 40) , a pair of Havana flip flops P130 ($2. 90) and some other assorted trinkets. Walked down towards Quiapo Church and watched some of the worshipers selling their Christian wares, praying in church and paying their respects. Somewhat of a very spiritual area and certainly more than enough religious paraphernalia for the most pious among us. Definitely a nice to place visit if you're religiously inclined.
Doubled back up Carriedo St. To Rizal Ave and proceeded north to Recto Ave. Throughout the walk all the way up to Recto Ave, more street vendors laced the sidewalks, this time mostly selling electronic goods and gears of every kind. From the latest smart phones, laptops, Blackberries, Samsung Galaxy devices, gaming consoles to brand watches. To be honest I couldn't tell what was real and what was a clone knock-off / fake. Most vendors were as charming as ever and of course claimed their product to be the 'real deal'. Seems to be a good area for buying electronic devices cheaply, if you care to take the risk on the quality of the product, be it clone, fake or real.
It was around 9:30-10:00pm now and while walking up Rizal Ave to Recto Ave, I noticed only a few SWs. There were about 12, so not as many as I thought would be working. Once again it would seem, I've come late to the party and perhaps the daytime action is much better. Anyway, several really desperate looking SWs did proposition me and I declined their persistent taunts and walked on. Also saw, a number of low-end beer bars and go-go bars (some with headline strippers) , dotted throughout the area and seem interesting, but I did not venture in. Many of the girls standing in the doorway or sitting just inside these low-bars, seemed a little better and might be worth the effort, especially with a very very inexpensive Sogo hotel nearby.
The Sogo Hotel on Rizal, what a bargain! What's not to like? Just loved the promotions and deals for their rooms with food packages. For less than $10. Tell me where on earth are you going to get a better deal than this? Got the quick 2 min. Tour from the bellhop and looked into a couple of rooms. As far as short time hotel rooms go, they are a pretty nice. Can't speak to the quality of the food, but it looked OK. What a bargain, I thought it was hilarious.
- Premium P408, DeLux P488, Executive P508 (10-12hrs room, incl. Two orders of Cheese Burgers with Fries and 8oz Coke). Monday to Thursday.
- Premium P424, DeLux P496, Executive P548 (10-12hrs room, incl. Two orders of Cheese Burgers with Fries and 8oz Coke). Friday to Sunday.
The Carreido area was a very nice surprise and I enjoyed the cheap shopping, interaction with the locals and diversity of things to see and do in the area. At no time at all, did I feel threatened, unsafe or in any danger (except for the SW taunts, LOL!). Sorry I couldn't report more on the actual SW scene, as it was getting late, once I actually started checking out Rizal Ave. Since it was my first time to the area, I didn't want to overstay my welcome, as the area has been reported as being somewhat dangerous. Well on the bright side, that leaves more for me to investigate the next time I'm in town.
[B]Manila Conclusion[/B]
For the few days I spend in Manila, I had a tremendous amount of fun, with very little sleep. Apart from the very heavy traffic, taxi drivers telling you their sob stories and the over-the-top begging at times, I had a great memorable relaxing time. The few girls, I encountered and sessioned with, were a lot of fun and performed with high marks. They were energetic, fun loving and liked to party. Typically I'm not a big drinker, but while on this holiday, I did have a little too much when entertaining with a couple sexy Pinoys. Having a drink or two, turned out to be a good thing and proved to be a nice ice breaker, when attempting to loosen things up. A well placed cocktail here, an ice cold beer there, certainly helped to ease the mood and open up avenues of the conversation and invitation. So hangovers aside, it was all for a good cause and a great time. With a good satisfying novice tour under my belt, I can't wait to come back, as it would seem, I have a lot more exploring ahead of me and I lot more to experience in the Philippines.
Read your FR with great interest and you gives out a lot of good info especially to newbies. Almost a must read. Keep up the good work and happy monger games.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1562071]Keep up the good work[/QUOTE]Yes, comprehensive and detailed! Spidey, your round-the-clock multi-location itinerary is an inspiration! A Spiderman of Mongering!
I enjoyed your report a lot, very well done. I will be in Ermita playing the field with the ladies there and a few DIA girls.
Perhaps some board members will disagree, but I would never got in a taxi with a tout and have them guide me somewhere. Glad nothing happen.
It has always been my policy never to associate or even talk / acknowledge to anyone outside the hotel or business establishment eg. Department store etc
From my latest stay in Makati I need to share to the readers (and lurkers) what did happen to me. It is all written with a touch of humor as the situation was out of this world (atleast in my book). It is a follow up by my post in general thread worrying about time.
This DIA chick agreed to meet up with me and she was very liable she would bring her friend or not. I told her to do as she pleased as in what was most comfortable to her. She told she would bring her gay cousin. Wow I thought maby chances for a threesome raised but what did I know. A threesome as in maby this gay cousine would atleast do some lick job and maby accept some male disturbance as well.
On her way here (she was very delayed) she must have send what was like between 80 to 100 texts (my worst experience ever). Before she left (earlier same day) around 50 or so texts must have been passed through the Smart Buddy system. 50% of the texting was the BS question "what are you doing now"? (that is ofcourse ok to ask maby 1 or 2 times but not every 10 minutes).
I did tell her maby 10 times or so the adress for our meeting without helping. She could not just get it. When close she gave her phone to the driver so we made out the deal. As you may understand I was getting somewhat pissed at this moment.
She did tell she bring only her cousin, right? Well when she arrived they where 4 people. 5 if I count in the driver who was a friend of the family (was he going to wait??? Or sth). Dia girl, gay cousin (was her male brother 17 yrs old) , her sister with a relatively newborn baby. I though OMG what is this but soon turned the situation into one of them surrealistic happenings and I decided WTF lets go through with this family picknic. By the way they did bring equipment for long stay as they all did carry backpacks with stuff to reside for long time outside their house. I did on instinct give out my best BS excuse so that plan of staying with me for long time vanished all in a sudden. Thanks God i am no newbie and know my way around weird situations.
I Gave the driver 500piso so he could grab a bite while waiting and off we stralled to an eatery close by. The gay brother was the one translating everything as his english was above average and almost excellent. My dia girls english was hardly anything to write about. It proved it was mostly the gay brother having arranged everything out of my girls account. We ordered some foods and I put in an order of two instant dbl black labels to calm myself down. We ate and had a failry good time as they were all friendly and the dia girl told me allready she loved me and the gay brother encouraged me to kiss her. I did to a big cheer from the rest of the familymember. The infant I do not know realising anything, for his sake I hope not.
After dinner the gay brother suddenly told me the dia girl wanted to have sex with me. That was my initial plan anyway but from this angel (he telling me) it sounded only weird. At this stage of the date I was more or less willing to just throw some money on the table and leave. But since it was such a weird situation the little head started to do the big heads work and I thought WTF. Things can hardly get any worse by now so off we went and into my apartment.
I gave the rest of the family some chocodrinks and turned on some cartoons for them to watch. I did some I'd checks and found out my DIA girl claiming to be 19 was realy 22 (blaming her profile creater, gay brother for this mishap, who cares realy?). We (me and her)went into the bedroom, closed the doors and session began.
I give her that that she put up her best effort to give decent head and she was actually kind of sexy. She did ofcourse look slightly different from her pic but so did I so could not realy blame her for the fake pic. No comments were made despite I this time did infact had a photo don't looking anything like me at all, hehe. It is my own personal experiment as I think in most cases girls don't give a shit and this time I did no upfront screeningjob as in webcam sessions.
We did a 2 pops session and she was rather horny. I was only to some extent disturbed by her "I love you" comment.
Session ended I gave her 2k piso and she was almost fainting out of pure luck. I threw in a couple of more blue notes on the table making it all in a 4k adventure (so the family could have some nice time as well)plus dinner costs and driver cost.
I escorted the family out on the street and offered them my best "get quickly away" line. I was seriously happy when all this was over so I felt like a happy man again when stralling into the Mall to sit down having a contemplative beer. Freedom! To their defence they were very friendly and nice people. The girl was also a 7 in my book. Not to bad realy. Anyone out there with simular experiences.. Wanna share???
Great story. I usually don't have a suite (separate bedroom) so I would have told them to go off to the food court. LOL. Either that or ask one of them to take pictures during the session. I'm sure the gay brother would have been happy to oblige. X.
[QUOTE=Skogis; 1562453]From my latest stay in Makati I need to share to the readers (and lurkers) what did happen to me. It is all written with a touch of humor as the situation was out of this world (atleast in my book). It is a follow up by my post in general thread worrying about time.
This DIA chick agreed to meet up with me and she was very liable she would bring her friend or not. I told her to do as she pleased as in what was most comfortable to her. She told she would bring her gay cousin. Wow I thought maby chances for a threesome raised but what did I know. A threesome as in maby this gay cousine would atleast do some lick job and maby accept some male disturbance as well.
On her way here (she was very delayed) she must have send what was like between 80 to 100 texts (my worst experience ever). Before she left (earlier same day) around 50 or so texts must have been passed through the Smart Buddy system. 50% of the texting was the BS question "what are you doing now"? (that is ofcourse ok to ask maby 1 or 2 times but not every 10 minutes).
I did tell her maby 10 times or so the adress for our meeting without helping. She could not just get it. When close she gave her phone to the driver so we made out the deal. As you may understand I was getting somewhat pissed at this moment.
She did tell she bring only her cousin, right? Well when she arrived they where 4 people. 5 if I count in the driver who was a friend of the family (was he going to wait? Or sth). Dia girl, gay cousin (was her male brother 17 yrs old) , her sister with a relatively newborn baby. I though OMG what is this but soon turned the situation into one of them surrealistic happenings and I decided WTF lets go through with this family picknic. By the way they did bring equipment for long stay as they all did carry backpacks with stuff to reside for long time outside their house. I did on instinct give out my best BS excuse so that plan of staying with me for long time vanished all in a sudden. Thanks God I am no newbie and know my way around weird situations.
I Gave the driver 500piso so he could grab a bite while waiting and off we stralled to an eatery close by. The gay brother was the one translating everything as his english was above average and almost excellent. My dia girls english was hardly anything to write about. It proved it was mostly the gay brother having arranged everything out of my girls account. We ordered some foods and I put in an order of two instant dbl black labels to calm myself down. We ate and had a failry good time as they were all friendly and the dia girl told me allready she loved me and the gay brother encouraged me to kiss her. I did to a big cheer from the rest of the familymember. The infant I do not know realising anything, for his sake I hope not.
After dinner the gay brother suddenly told me the dia girl wanted to have sex with me. That was my initial plan anyway but from this angel (he telling me) it sounded only weird. At this stage of the date I was more or less willing to just throw some money on the table and leave. But since it was such a weird situation the little head started to do the big heads work and I thought WTF. Things can hardly get any worse by now so off we went and into my apartment.
I gave the rest of the family some chocodrinks and turned on some cartoons for them to watch. I did some I'd checks and found out my DIA girl claiming to be 19 was realy 22 (blaming her profile creater, gay brother for this mishap, who cares realy?). We (me and her) went into the bedroom, closed the doors and session began.
I give her that that she put up her best effort to give decent head and she was actually kind of sexy. She did ofcourse look slightly different from her pic but so did I so could not realy blame her for the fake pic. No comments were made despite I this time did infact had a photo don't looking anything like me at all, hehe. It is my own personal experiment as I think in most cases girls don't give a shit and this time I did no upfront screeningjob as in webcam sessions.
We did a 2 pops session and she was rather horny. I was only to some extent disturbed by her "I love you" comment.
Session ended I gave her 2k piso and she was almost fainting out of pure luck. I threw in a couple of more blue notes on the table making it all in a 4k adventure (so the family could have some nice time as well) plus dinner costs and driver cost.
I escorted the family out on the street and offered them my best "get quickly away" line. I was seriously happy when all this was over so I felt like a happy man again when stralling into the Mall to sit down having a contemplative beer. Freedom! To their defence they were very friendly and nice people. The girl was also a 7 in my book. Not to bad realy. Anyone out there with simular experiences. Want to share?[/QUOTE]
This is a very good story of the unique lifestyles in the Phil.
With the cramped and squalid living conditions in the Phil, it appears sex is not an intimate, but more like a casual and semi public act, like taking a dump at the communal outhouse. With this very close living condition and casual attitudes regarding sex, I wonder if **** may be rampant in Filipino families.
I don't know any country where the whole family would show up to offer their daughter for sex with a stranger in the next room. It seems this family is very desperate and would do anything for a little money.
The whole scenario feels weird, but it would be fun to have a horny girl, if she is very pretty, and a kinky turn on to have her family hanging out in the next room, listening in on her sex noises. I would send the family out on the street and lock the door tight, so the girl and I can have a completely relaxed time together. I suppose for people who live in 1-room homes and have sex while the rest of the family pretending sleep, it's not a novelty.
I looked at many Filipinas' pictures in DIA, not too many were attractive. Many of the best-looking ones turned out to be transsexuals. A girl in China showed her very pretty picture in DIA. I went out of my way to meet her, but she looked a lot worse than her touched up pic with her lumpy, out-of-shape body, frumpy clothes and ghetto attitude. I was very disgusted and angry at that girl. To me DIA is a big waste of time to meet girls from the bottoms of the barrels in their countries. I just gave it up.
With this story, I am convinced Filipinos have much looser morals compared to other Asian countries or any country in the world.
[QUOTE=Skogis; 1562453]From my latest stay in Makati I need to share to the readers (and lurkers) what did happen to me. It is all written with a touch of humor as the situation was out of this world (atleast in my book).
After dinner the gay brother suddenly told me the dia girl wanted to have sex with me.
We did a 2 pops session and she was rather horny. I was only to some extent disturbed by her "I love you" comment.
Session ended I gave her 2k piso and she was almost fainting out of pure luck. Anyone out there with simular experiences. Want to share?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1562683]With this story, I am convinced Filipinos have much looser morals compared to other Asian countries or any country in the world.[/QUOTE]Maybe the church actively ensuring sex education doesn't move ahead too far. Maybe a contributing factor, and the American influence of casual sex does play a part in some educated crowd thinking it is cool to have ONS etc.
Then again poor people all over most 3rd world countries are alike. When I was in India a guy brought his sister and knowing what may happen, left me with her while he went to the market and acted dumb when his sister was smiling.
And that was in the very countryside and their seasonal crop had failed for two years in a row. And my donation was going to help buy a few goats to revive their fortune.
So?
Maybe you haven't met good Filipinos to pass judgement.
As much as Kris Aquino writes about her exploits and nots and being the talk of the town I know a lot of parents who are totally opposite.
Like some I know in the mountain province who send their kids to larger towns when they reach high school age, sometime putting them in crowded relatives house, relatives who are happy to host the kids, and when I asked why they do it, is it because the rural schools are bad. The answer was almost same.
The parents and the relatives willing to host know, if the kids. Especially girls, stay in the rural schools most likely they WILL get pregnant. Which does not happen in the larger towns and the kids are kept under a tight leash, an reminded of the repercussions if they get sex troubles.
For comparison. A TV program on teenage pregnancy in Philippines was asking some girls why they got pregnant. And the answer was mostly like 'my sister has a baby, I felt I should have one too. ' or 'my boyfriend felt we are ready to have our own baby. ' (the bf mostly having vanished once the girl got preg) and never mind the fact the mothers and grandmothers of the baby were struggling to even buy milk. And virtually the whole family was living is shacks surrounded by pigs, dogs and garbage.
On an educated side, I casually asked a teenager in a town playing with her sister's kid if she want her own, and the reply was opposite. It was like 'are you crazy? It is not cheap and so much painful to take care of babies, I will wait till I grow old, get a job and marry and then think of babies. '
Luke brings up an interesting topic, but I'd like to clarify that Skogis didn't have the "whole family" in the next room. It was a younger brother, sis, and a baby.
Occasionally you'll find a gal who wraps herself around you while sleeping. THis is great for the ego, but doesn't make for a good night's sleep. I've wondered if these types had grown up sleeping in one bed with several brothers ands sisters. I never thought to just ask. Maybe because I was too sleepy. LOL.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1562683]This is a very good story of the unique lifestyles in the Phil.
With the cramped and squalid living conditions in the Phil, it appears sex is not an intimate, but more like a casual and semi public act,
SNIP[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man; 1563111]Luke brings up an interesting topic, but I'd like to clarify that Skogis didn't have the "whole family" in the next room. It was a younger brother, sis, and a baby.
Occasionally you'll find a gal who wraps herself around you while sleeping. THis is great for the ego, but doesn't make for a good night's sleep. I've wondered if these types had grown up sleeping in one bed with several brothers ands sisters. I never thought to just ask. Maybe because I was too sleepy. LOL.[/QUOTE]A lot of Filipina like to sleep on their side with their legs and arms wrapped around a bolster. Sleeping with you, they like to use you as their bolster (as long as the room has aircon, or the weather is cool). I give them a pillow to use, so I can get a good night's sleep.
Going back to the original topic, I never found any middle class or educated girls interested in having their siblings present when they bang their guys. So Perhaps only those from rural class backgrounds in financially desperate positions (that is 90% of them) , would be willing to consider sex in this manner.
The family members are only present in the hope of also gaining financially from the dayuhan windfall. Probably they even discuss this situation with their sisters (which includes bakla brothers). And they might also discuss 2 sisters sharing the dayuhan. I doubt they would discuss any of these matters with other family members.
These attitudes are not limited to the PI. On the Hong Kong board, I once posted about an Indonesian girl (a DH) who, if I would look after her, then she would also share her sister with me.
Hi guys,
This summer I plan to go to Corregidor and tour battle sites. The evening, however, may be a different story. Where in that area is the best place to find some cute spinners to entertain my lonely nights? I am not familiar with the Phils so any info would be much appreciated!
[QUOTE=JoeBesser; 1564007]Hi guys,
This summer I plan to go to Corregidor and tour battle sites. The evening, however, may be a different story. Where in that area is the best place to find some cute spinners to entertain my lonely nights? I am not familiar with the Phils so any info would be much appreciated![/QUOTE]It's usually done as a day trip Joe. You can stay overnight if you want but nothing extra is gained by staying. If you need a female companion then you must take your own but remember: filipinas will not know ANYTHING about Corregidor or about the war or care much about it either so she will probably be bored to death.
As an example, see http://www.corregidorphilippines.com/packages.html
[QUOTE=JoeBesser; 1564007]Hi guys,
This summer I plan to go to Corregidor and tour battle sites. The evening, however, may be a different story. Where in that area is the best place to find some cute spinners to entertain my lonely nights? I am not familiar with the Phils so any info would be much appreciated![/QUOTE]The hotel is old and basic. If you don't have your won girl with you you and your hand will be well acquainted. Exactly as RK says, most people, even from Manila have never heard of, or know of the history of Corregidor.
I found it fascinating and totally enjoyable as its peaceful and no cars are allowed on the island, but for the average Filipina they might complain theres no jollibee. LOL. So even if you take the day trip, you might find it very interesting. A very peaceful change of pace from the chaos of Manila.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1564039]Exactly as RK says, most people, even from Manila have never heard of, or know of the history of Corregidor.[/QUOTE]Very sad, I am not even American, and I know the history associated with Corregidor. But there again, an American colleague of mine insisted that the Leyte Macarthur Monuments was in Australia! Surely these must be the most famous war statues in Asia for Americans?
Cheers
P.S. One of the statues is now a fallen soldier due to Typhoon Haiyan!
[QUOTE=Skogis; 1562453]From my latest stay in Makati I need to share to the readers (and lurkers) what did happen to me. It is all written with a touch of humor as the situation was out of this world (atleast in my book). It is a follow up by my post in general thread worrying about time.
This DIA chick agreed to meet up with me and she was very liable she would bring her friend or not. I told her to do as she pleased as in what was most comfortable to her. She told she would bring her gay cousin. Wow I thought maby chances for a threesome raised but what did I know. A threesome as in maby this gay cousine would atleast do some lick job and maby accept some male disturbance as well.[/QUOTE]Good story Skogis, your title "The Adams family reunion" is perfect for your story, LOL.
You know what? Something similar happened to me in Cuba on my second trip to the island 4 years ago, not sure if I wrote a trip report from that trip yet, if I didn't I should write one because I had lots of adventures on that 2 weeks multiple cities trip. Anyways, what happened to me that time wasn't as unreal as yours.
I met this Cuban girl from Badoo (by the way in Cuba the best way you can meet girls online is from Badoo, well that was back then, not sure now) , she lived in the province 3 hours from Holguin the city I was staying, she calls me from the lobby, so I go to welcome her, but I can not find a single girl around waiting for me, I only see families, when all of the sudden she calls me and says: "I'm here in front of you with my parents", I look up and I see her 2 parents (very old dudes in their 60s) , I'm like, turn around and said: "Wait I have to do something first", so I leave and go to the swimming pool, sit on the pool chair and I start thinking what can I do to get out of this, this is the first time in my life I meet a girl for the first time and she brings her parents to me (I'm like, I just want pussy I don't want to get merry).
So I go back to the lobby and I tell her in private: "There is no way your parents are staying with us in the hotel", she goes: "Don't worry they just want to meet you and give me the thumbs up if I can stay with you in the hotel or not, just be nice to them and they will approve, my dad has to work anyways (he worked close by) , my mom will go to my aunt house who lives here in Holguin". So after that I'm OK let's do this (let's get it over with). I introduce myself, the dad is a funny guy and both seem pretty cool for their age, so I invite them to the pool restaurant to eat some breakfast, after 1 hour of talking and even drinking a couple of beers with the dad, he tells me that he needs to go to work and then invites me to go visit him to his town for a popular festival they will have the next weekend, we say our goodbyes they both leave and I get to stay with her daughter for the night!
The next day this girl wants to stay longer, but I lie and I tell her that I will be leaving to Camaguey that night. Of course two days later I saw her in the plaza Calixto Garcia, I tried to hide from her but she could still see me but by that time I disappear in the sunset.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1564039]The hotel is old and basic. If you don't have your won girl with you you and your hand will be well acquainted. Exactly as RK says, most people, even from Manila have never heard of, or know of the history of Corregidor.[/QUOTE]I was asking some friends on my plans to go to Lingayan Gulf, Samar and Surigao. As these were turning point battles of WW2.
9 out of 10 were like, there is no tourist attractions there or suggest I go to Boracay and the likes.
As a history buff, it is sad indeed.
What I called fishbowls in Manilla may confuse a few stupid dicks in the China thread.
Unlike Bangkok and Manila where fishbowls are glassed-in rooms where the girls sit on elevated benches for viewing, the places in Ermita and Makati are large rooms where girls sit on chairs and benches around the perimeter. Guys are allowed to wander, get up close and mingle with the girls. The girls are for take out only. They never mentioned rooms for sex in the buildings. I picked up a few very sweet and good-looking young and fresh girls from these places. The selections are much better than MBC / LA Cafe and the bars on P Burgos.
They look and work like fishbowls so I call them fishbowls. What do local bros call these places? Fishbowls or brothels. There are no rooms for sex on the premises, so the term brothels may be incorrect.
I gave instructions for these places to a few bros who visited Manila. Don't know whether they used the directions and found any good places.
A few ugly, marrow-minded, mean-spirited, despicable guys like CRASS EDDIE and ICKYMAN seized on the term and made stupid asses out of themselves.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1564896]They look and work like fishbowls so I call them fishbowls. What do local bros call these places? Fishbowls or brothels. There are no rooms for sex on the premises, so the term brothels may be incorrect.[/QUOTE]They're referred to as a "casa". Reports about them pop up here every once in a while and seems selection varies; possibly due to the time of day the bro went. Am curious to learn a few more details from you, like how much of a donation you gave? And how long ago and time of day?
[QUOTE=Econo Tech; 1564501]I was asking some friends on my plans to go to Lingayan Gulf, Samar and Surigao. As these were turning point battles of WW2.
9 out of 10 were like, there is no tourist attractions there or suggest I go to Boracay and the likes.
As a history buff, it is sad indeed.[/QUOTE]Theres little sense of curiosity. Or interest in the history of where they live.
Once, a relative of wifes was in Philippine General Hospital in Manila.
I was telling the relative and two nurses some of the history of the hospital, how it was used in the 2nd WW, and how the Americans bombed it killing many, as the Americans thought Japanese troops were hiding in it.
They both asked me if Manila was involved in 2nd world war as they never learnt this in their school history lessons (they are only taught about Magellan, and Bonifacio and Rizal ). I advised them that 100, 000 Manilenos were killed.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1564915]Theres little sense of curiosity. Or interest in the history of where they live.
Once, a relative of wifes was in Philippine General Hospital in Manila.
I was telling the relative and two nurses some of the history of the hospital, how it was used in the 2nd WW, and how the Americans bombed it killing many, as the Americans thought Japanese troops were hiding in it.
They both asked me if Manila was involved in 2nd world war as they never learnt this in their school history lessons (they are only taught about Magellan, and Bonifacio and Rizal ). I advised them that 100, 000 Manilenos were killed.[/QUOTE]I studied Pacific History at school. We were taught that the American artillery in Manila killed twice as many Manilenos in 3 months as the Japanese did in 3 years. I am a bit hazy on the exact stats, so I stand to be corrected.
I also remember that the Japanese set up devices on the roof of the Philippine General Hospital that emitted flashes and noise to emulate large guns so directing American fire at the PGH!
Sorry, A bit off topic!
Cheers
A local friend and I went searching Manila for all night companies about 6 PM last year.
Casas in Ermita were near the US embassy, smaller, had about 20 girls each. Standard rate was 2000 pesos for all night. There were no clients while we were there. May be too early. The girls in Ermita did not look very good, but they would still be younger and better-looking than 90% of girls in MBC. I was told better materials would show up later in the night. Looks like the girls were hungry for business.
Went to a few places in Makati. They were big, basic rooms with plain chairs and benches against the walls. Each place had 30-40 girls, wearing casual clothes, sitting, roaming, watching TV, talking among themselves like they were at home. There were only a few guys at each place. They would check out the girls up close, talking to them, but no touching.
I got excited, finding many girls exceeding my expectation. I picked a young, fresh, sweet-looking girl. The guy wanted 4000 pesos for all night. My local friend bargained with him a little and he agreed to 3000 pesos. Took the girl to a fancy seafood dinner, then back to the hotel. She hardly ate anything. She was 19, one of the sweetest, best-looking girls I ever met, with a pretty face and flawless body, like a movie star, and she speaks good English. That made her company very enjoyable in and out of bed.
At least to my taste, Sex with Pinays is much more satisfying because they can speak English. Potentials for GFE is probably better with casa girls than with hardened bar girls at MBC or on P Burgos.
I was there early 2013, so it has been over a year . I went with a local bro, so would have to rely on him to find these places again. Just remember 1 casa not far from MBC, between MBC and the US embassy.
[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger;1564913]They're referred to as a "casa". Reports about them pop up here every once in a while and seems selection varies; possibly due to the time of day the bro went. Am curious to learn a few more details from you, like how much of a donation you gave? And how long ago and time of day?[/QUOTE]
Did Icky ever graduate from middle school? The way Icky acted in this forum, he must have been a schoolyard bully, who did lots of wanking but not much learning.
Icky should not be making crass accusations against US troops without evidence, like he was smearing other bros in ISG. Unless Icky were a Nazi or Japanese Imperial troop, it was US troops who saved his ass and his ancestors' asses in WWII.
Without US troops, Icky would be just a comfort boy, offering up his ass to comfort Nazis or Japanese Imperial troops.
[QUOTE=Ikksman; 1564942]I studied Pacific History at school. We were taught that the American artillery in Manila killed twice as many Manilenos in 3 months as the Japanese did in 3 years. I am a bit hazy on the exact stats, so I stand to be corrected.
I also remember that the Japanese set up devices on the roof of the Philippine General Hospital that emitted flashes and noise to emulate large guns so directing American fire at the PGH!
Sorry, A bit off topic!
Cheers[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1564954]Did Icky ever graduate from middle school? The way Icky acted in this forum, he must have been a schoolyard bully, who did lots of wanking but not much learning.
Icky should not be making crass accusations against US troops without evidence, like he was smearing other bros in ISG. Unless Icky were a Nazi or Japanese Imperial troop, it was US troops who saved his ass and his ancestors' asses in WWII.
Without US troops, Icky would be just a comfort boy, offering up his ass to comfort Nazis or Japanese Imperial troops.[/QUOTE]Man. You sound like a 14 year old who has just had his first beer.
Please, breathe, relax and think clearly and lucidly before typing.
The board works fine without all the adoloescent name calling.
I started the discussion by talking about PGH from a factual historical perspective.
Ikksman corroborated what I had written and we were both referring to the Battle of Manila, not Americas role, past present or future in saving the world.
Stay on message sunshine, contribute in a meaningful and grown up way, and we will all be the better for it.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1564969]Man. You sound like a 14 year old who has just had his first beer.
Please, breathe, relax and think clearly and lucidly before typing.
The board works fine without all the adoloescent name calling.
I started the discussion by talking about PGH from a factual historical perspective.
Ikksman corroborated what I had written and we were both referring to the Battle of Manila, not Americas role, past present or future in saving the world.
Stay on message sunshine, contribute in a meaningful and grown up way, and we will all be the better for it.[/QUOTE] This reminded me that my brother served in Vietnam alongside Americans. In fact, at times he fought in American units. These were personnel swaps organised by Col. David Hackworth, one of the most decorated American soldiers of all time! I had the honour of meeting him when he shifted to the Sunshine Coast in Australia. I used to help him with his internet connections and computer problems. We became good friends. RIP Old mate!
Hey guys!
Great to have a read of the recent trip reports posted here by some members. After much delay over the years about whether to travel to the Philippines, I have finally decided to take the plunge and will be arriving there for 3 weeks starting from the end of July. Had always wanted to travel there, but kept reading about stabbings and shootings happening and it did put me off a little, but I think I will just be very careful when I head over there.
Have booked accomodation at the Holiday Inn & Suities as the location seems quite good, especially with it being directly connected to the Glorietta Mall and it's close by to Greenbelt. I'll pay up on membership before I fly over there, so if anybody happens to be around at that time and would like to catch up they're welcome to message. I'll mostly be keeping in touch with girls through DIA, FC and some other sites a couple of weeks before the trip and also once I am over there, from everything I have been reading it seems like it's quite easy to mingle with the locals, so should be quite fun.
How is the bars in Manila, as per young girls. Is there anything like BATS (Indonesia) or BRIX (Singapore) over there. What are the best places to pick up girls. Or is brothel network strong in Manila. Please advice.
Thanks in advance.
P. S. I read through the forum but there are very mixed info. Cannot get a clear picture.
[QUOTE=Dkooau; 1565071]How is the bars in Manila, as per young girls. Is there anything like BATS (Indonesia) or BRIX (Singapore) over there. What are the best places to pick up girls. Or is brothel network strong in Manila. Please advice.
Thanks in advance.
P. S. I read through the forum but there are very mixed info. Cannot get a clear picture.[/QUOTE]Your last 9 FRs were all questions along the same lines as this one. If you RTFF you will find lots of good information on where to go so maybe review more than just the last page as plenty of information for the newbie to read and find
And then write a FR about the experience as you don't seem to do this much.
And by "young girls" please explain as the policy of the board is over 18 so I hope you mean that.
Good luck witht eh RTFF.
I meant "unlike Bangkok and Pattaya," not Manila.
Have to make the correction quickly so the dumb pit bulls have no chance to bite into it like their worthless lives depend on it.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1564896]What I called fishbowls in Manilla may confuse a few stupid dicks in the China thread.
Unlike Bangkok and Manila where fishbowls are glassed-in rooms where the girls sit on elevated benches for viewing, the places in Ermita and Makati are large rooms where few bros who visited Manila. Don't know whether they used the directions and found any good places.
A few ugly, marrow-minded, mean-spirited, despicable guys like CRASS EDDIE and ICKYMAN seized on the term and made stupid asses out of themselves.[/QUOTE]
Icky's brother was a comfort boy too?
Must be very nice ducking patrols and staying in bed all night with the American colonel! Hehe.
[QUOTE=Ikksman;1564977]This reminded me that my brother served in Vietnam alongside Americans. In fact, at times he fought in American units. These were personnel swaps organised by Col. David Hackworth, one of the most decorated American soldiers of all time! I had the honour of meeting him when he shifted to the Sunshine Coast in Australia. I used to help him with his internet connections and computer problems. We became good friends. RIP Old mate![/QUOTE]
FreebieFan sounds like a thoughtful, reasonable bro, unlike Icky the bastard.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1564969]Man. You sound like a 14 year old who has just had his first beer.
Please, breathe, relax and think clearly and lucidly before typing.
The board works fine without all the adoloescent name calling.
I started the discussion by talking about PGH from a factual historical perspective.
Ikksman corroborated what I had written and we were both referring to the Battle of Manila, not Americas role, past present or future in saving the world.
Stay on message sunshine, contribute in a meaningful and grown up way, and we will all be the better for it.[/QUOTE]
Of cause definitely over 18. I've been reading the forum constantly and I think I have a basic Idea of where to go.
And by the way I don't write reviews much. But I help anyone with information that I have via PM, always.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1565081]Your last 9 FRs were all questions along the same lines as this one. If you RTFF you will find lots of good information on where to go so maybe review more than just the last page as plenty of information for the newbie to read and find
And then write a FR about the experience as you don't seem to do this much.
And by "young girls" please explain as the policy of the board is over 18 so I hope you mean that.
Good luck witht eh RTFF.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Skogis; 1562453]From my latest stay in Makati I need to share to the readers (and lurkers) what did happen to me. It is all written with a touch of humor as the situation was out of this world (atleast in my book). It is a follow up by my post in general thread worrying about time.
This DIA chick agreed to meet up with me and she was very liable she would bring her friend or not. I told her to do as she pleased as in what was most comfortable to her. She told she would bring her gay cousin. Wow I thought maby chances for a threesome raised but what did I know. A threesome as in maby this gay cousine would atleast do some lick job and maby accept some male disturbance as well.
On her way here (she was very delayed) she must have send what was like between 80 to 100 texts (my worst experience ever). Before she left (earlier same day) around 50 or so texts must have been passed through the Smart Buddy system. 50% of the texting was the BS question "what are you doing now"? (that is ofcourse ok to ask maby 1 or 2 times but not every 10 minutes).
I did tell her maby 10 times or so the adress for our meeting without helping. She could not just get it. When close she gave her phone to the driver so we made out the deal. As you may understand I was getting somewhat pissed at this moment.
She did tell she bring only her cousin, right? Well when she arrived they where 4 people. 5 if I count in the driver who was a friend of the family (was he going to wait? Or sth). Dia girl, gay cousin (was her male brother 17 yrs old) , her sister with a relatively newborn baby. I though OMG what is this but soon turned the situation into one of them surrealistic happenings and I decided WTF lets go through with this family picknic. By the way they did bring equipment for long stay as they all did carry backpacks with stuff to reside for long time outside their house. I did on instinct give out my best BS excuse so that plan of staying with me for long time vanished all in a sudden. Thanks God I am no newbie and know my way around weird situations.
I Gave the driver 500piso so he could grab a bite while waiting and off we stralled to an eatery close by. The gay brother was the one translating everything as his english was above average and almost excellent. My dia girls english was hardly anything to write about. It proved it was mostly the gay brother having arranged everything out of my girls account. We ordered some foods and I put in an order of two instant dbl black labels to calm myself down. We ate and had a failry good time as they were all friendly and the dia girl told me allready she loved me and the gay brother encouraged me to kiss her. I did to a big cheer from the rest of the familymember. The infant I do not know realising anything, for his sake I hope not.
After dinner the gay brother suddenly told me the dia girl wanted to have sex with me. That was my initial plan anyway but from this angel (he telling me) it sounded only weird. At this stage of the date I was more or less willing to just throw some money on the table and leave. But since it was such a weird situation the little head started to do the big heads work and I thought WTF. Things can hardly get any worse by now so off we went and into my apartment.
I gave the rest of the family some chocodrinks and turned on some cartoons for them to watch. I did some I'd checks and found out my DIA girl claiming to be 19 was realy 22 (blaming her profile creater, gay brother for this mishap, who cares realy?). We (me and her) went into the bedroom, closed the doors and session began.
I give her that that she put up her best effort to give decent head and she was actually kind of sexy. She did ofcourse look slightly different from her pic but so did I so could not realy blame her for the fake pic. No comments were made despite I this time did infact had a photo don't looking anything like me at all, hehe. It is my own personal experiment as I think in most cases girls don't give a shit and this time I did no upfront screeningjob as in webcam sessions.
We did a 2 pops session and she was rather horny. I was only to some extent disturbed by her "I love you" comment.
Session ended I gave her 2k piso and she was almost fainting out of pure luck. I threw in a couple of more blue notes on the table making it all in a 4k adventure (so the family could have some nice time as well) plus dinner costs and driver cost.
I escorted the family out on the street and offered them my best "get quickly away" line. I was seriously happy when all this was over so I felt like a happy man again when stralling into the Mall to sit down having a contemplative beer. Freedom! To their defence they were very friendly and nice people. The girl was also a 7 in my book. Not to bad realy. Anyone out there with simular experiences. Want to share?[/QUOTE]Thank you for this awesome report, Skogis. I had such a good laugh.
Luke, You're in violation of the terms you agreed to when you joined the ISG board. If anyone wanted to be a "bastard" they would report you to administration. If you want to continue to participate at ISG, I recommend you chill out. For the record, I'm not a moderator. Far from it. LOL.
ISG Philippines does a pretty good job of self moderation. FreebieFan was a bit harsh with his message, but I think you should take that message, blow it up, print it out, and paste it on the wall next to your computer.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1565217]FreebieFan sounds like a thoughtful, reasonable bro, unlike Icky the (unkind word deleted by X).[/QUOTE]
I recently come back fro a trip to Ermita. This was a budget trip and had very little time and thus concentrated on the Caf LA.
For you budget mongers out there in pervy land.
Round trip Cebu Pacific from Tokyo Narita to Manila for about 450 USD.
Its a budget airline and you pay for just about everything from check in luggage to food. Not even so much as water on this flight but you are allowed to bring your own food and drink. I was surprise they did not charge you to take a shit in their bathrooms. The plane was clean and on time and arrives at terminal 3 which is a halfway decent terminal. The only ***** I had was they schedule many other flights that leave at 5AM and many people from different flights checking in at the same time. 45 min wait time. If your on a budget I would recommend.
Terminal 3 taxi wait
I waited 2 hours to get a metered yellow taxi outside of terminal 3. I first tried to go up to the departure area but they have the doors to make it a Oneway only and could not get to the curb. One yellow taxi per 5 min with all others, why is it we must take a yellow from terminal 3? I saw may whites dropping people off. Hmm welcome to the Phils I guess
Stayed at the Tune hotel in Ermita.
Again you pay for everything else but the room is clean but small. Queen size bed and the room size was fine. Of course I live in Japan and am used to small rooms. There is a 7-11 downstairs with a sports bar so you do not have to brave the rif-raf of Ermita to get something. The only ***** I have is the air-cond fan is a bit loud and the doors slamming in the hallways, but satisfied with the rest.
I am 55 and slowing down I guess.
Was only able to handle 3 ladies during this trip. All met at the Caf LA.
Girl one.
She had a nice face and wonderful personality with a sense of humor. But best of all she had big tits and slicky is a sucker for big tits. I made a joke to her about using a credit card and she said sure, all you have to do is swipe it between her cleavage. I enjoyed our session and she only required 2K. Not bad and slicky jr got a nice tit fuck with other physical therapy. AI tried to take a video but the pen cam was not pointed very well.
Girl two.
This lady was great looking lady and it was a pleasure to bang such a lovely thing. She had all kinds of porn saved on her cell phone and played with herself. Now I wish I brought my vibrator with me for her to use. She was as simple minded as they come. She watched her soap drama on tv and was hooting and hollering at was the end of the world. But she left early on me as I thought she would, I was thinking while talking with her in the bar that this lady was going to do that, but I wanted to try anyways. When she was leaving she asked for a tip and I gave her 40P, so take that. I knew she was pissed and so was I. I saw her in the bar two days later and she would not even look at me. But still it was nice doing such a lovely face anyways. Next time I will try to listen to my head on my shoulders and not take her.
Girl Three.
She too was another pretty.
Problem was I was not interested in taking anyone that night and save it for my last night. I felt a bit sorry for her and told her that she could just sleep at my place as I was not in the mood and she could use a good night sleep in a decent place. I kept to my word and slept with t shirt and shorts on and she as I could see slept in her birthday suit.
In the morning she asked that I take her for a session and I hesitated at first but slicky jr said he wanted so we did. She just wanted 1K and I gave her 100P for transport. Nice face and nice body. Was a great memory seeing her do the tube steak boggie on me. Later on that night I simply did not have the want or the drive to end it with a bang (pun intended) I could tell she was physically tired and needed a good night sleep. But I sure wish I saved for last night in Ermita.
The Last day in Ermita,
I walked around handing out packets of milk and bananas to the homeless kids. It was for me just as good a high to hear *Thank you* from little girls when I gave them milk and banana. I would have given more if I was not on such a budget. I encourage others to give food instead of money to these kids. A whole bundle of bananas are only 100P.
Met some DIA girls.
I met two highly educated ones and one was educationally challenged.
Yes they were in their 40s but I wanted to meet them due to their educational background. It was good conversation and no sex. One was setting up a branch office in manila and the other was a corporate lawyer.
The other one I met in a mall and she was an hour late. She told me to meet her at a Shakeys at 4PM. But she did not get off till 4 PM and it would take time for her to get to our meeting spot. Never took travel time into consideration. We went to pizza hut and afterwards to a bar with a band. Had a few drinks and went for a walk in the park. I could sense she was in heat but the situation was that we could not do it. She kept on asking me if I wanted to meet again the next day but I did not care for her cigarettes and dumbness. The woman did not even know that Korea was divided into North and South.
A few observations and rants.
I guess I am used to the Japan train system.
Oh its 9PM and the trains do not run anymore? I guess there are no more commuters.
Air cond barely noticeable in the crowded train?
Nothing to hold on to when weaving around if standing?
No announcement that there is a train coming to the platform.
Many time cannot hear or understand the name of stop in announcement.
Train door on LRT just slams shut?
Search before getting in the station? HUH? I was also patted down before getting into Megamall too, glad it was a lady who did it.
Here is a good one. On these trains it seems that those who will board the train will get on first and those who exit get off after everyone gets on. If I am wrong, why is it that when getting off those getting on stand in front of the door and practically drag you back in?
Enough of the train system.
I was at a Cash and Carry in Makati. At the check out, you are not allowed to push your cart through after paying, No. You have to push it backwards into those standing behind you to pay and leave it there! What the Fuck? The credit card machine did not work and the cashier had to keep running 3 cashiers down to swipe the card. Man. She should have used my girl #1's cleavage or her own.
Lunch at McDonalds.
I told you it was a budget trip.
Anyways, I saw this guy waiting for the rest of his food order, so at the register counter, he unwraps his burger and eats it there and drinks his cola at the register. HUH?
Oh? 5 min to pour a cup of coffee and give it to me?
Sleeping in the streets.
I saw this guy sleeping in the street about 1/3 the way on to the street just down from the Caf LA. Sacked out right there.
Shape of the Phil ladies.
I fully understand there are plenty heifers you can see roaming in and out of the all you can eat trawfs in the USA.
But certainly a huge percentage here in the Phils and the type of pants / jeans they try to make fit makes their asses look sooo unappealing. They way their body fat is distributed makes Slicky jr go limp.
Who is the pope?
Dumb girl did not know what a pope is and she said she was catholic
I asked all women I met, Who is the pope? And just the two educated ladies I met knew the answer, all others di not know or said Benedict 16. So much for a Catholic country.
Dumb Belgium guy
I talked to a guy at the bar at the Tune Hotel
He told me how he was beaten up and had his throat slashed y 4 Phil guys *it was cut but not real bad* and was robbed of 20,000 Pesos at 2 AM near Del pilar and Manbini *There is a cop station there too* Huh? what the hell are you doing walking around with 20,000 peso in Ermita at 2 AM?
I looked up the word Dumb Ass and sure enough his photo was there
I think I bored you guys enough
Hi fellas,
I am visiting Manila for the first time on 23rd of this Month. I have travelled to Thailand about 15 times now and know the place well but I would really appreciate some insider info on Manila. I have booked Best Western for. 5 nights in Ermita. Would appreciate some info on places to visit and avoid. Happy to shout a beer to a fellow member whilst I am there.
Cheers
These 2 guys Ickyman and A$$ Freddy have been needling me everyday in the Philippines and China threads, accusing me of lying about the casas in Manila, which I called "Fish Bowls" due to lack of definition.
These casas aim to service local Pinoys. They have nice, clean, fresh, good-looking girls with good attitudes, who are much better companies in and out of bed than hardened bar girls. I won't spend as much time hanging out in Manila bars, and definitely will never return to the meat market bars in Angeles City. It's more fun touring Manila with sweet young girls who don't dress, act and look like hardened prostitutes. But I did pick up a young girl in LA Cafe who was a college student and she was very horny and lots of fun. So the bros should try all different venues.
I gave instructions via PM to a few bros to find these casas. But of course I would never share this info with stupid, ugly, narrow-minded guys like Ickyman and A$$ Freddy, who would call other bros liars for things that they don't know or cannot comprehend.
My apologies for losing my cool with these 2 needling jerks, to other bros in this thread, who have been very kind, thoughtful and helpful.
[QUOTE=X Man; 1566240]Luke, You're in violation of the terms you agreed to when you joined the ISG board. If anyone wanted to be a "bastard" they would report you to administration. If you want to continue to participate at ISG, I recommend you chill out. For the record, I'm not a moderator. Far from it. LOL.
ISG Philippines does a pretty good job of self moderation. FreebieFan was a bit harsh with his message, but I think you should take that message, blow it up, print it out, and paste it on the wall next to your computer.[/QUOTE]
Japanese are known for being stiff and formal in all relationships. They are always serious, not known for being jovial or having fun with friends. Hollywood further reinforces the image of stiff Japanese by showing in their various movies how deadly serious Japanese men, including the ugly and tattooed Yakuzas, are even when they are sitting in geisha houses drinking with their friends, and presumably boinking pretty girls on the premises.
But this was a humorous trip report by our Japanese bro Slicky. So he probably found us in kindred spirit.
Girls hanging out La Cafe are mostly old, ugly hags. Some had the BALLS to quote me outrageous prices for short time fucks. I got pretty disgusted with the old losers in LA Cafe.
Manila is very crowded and cramped. The Jeepneys are noisy and very smoky, belching smoke in your face as they cruise the streets. There are a lot of sketchy characters hanging out on the streets at all hours of the day and night. I never saw much police presence in Manila. None. I definitely felt threatened a few times walking alone, even in day time. Walking alone late at night in Manila is sure to invite criminals to rob you and slash your throat. This is very serious situation. You could have your throat slit, down lying in your own pool of blood until your die and noone will help you.
With the news of this Belgian guy getting his throat slashed, the bros should avoid walking at night, even with groups of friends. Just jump into taxis outside of hotels. Taxis are cheap in Manila. Better and cheaper than spending weeks in hospitals, paying big money to get your throats patched up, or worse, being shipped home to your wives and kids via Philippines Airlines in a plain pine box.
[QUOTE=Jp Slicky; 1566244]I recently come back fro a trip to Ermita. This was a budget trip and had very little time and thus concentrated on the Caf LA.
Dumb Belgium guy.
I talked to a guy at the bar at the Tune Hotel.
He told me how he was beaten up and had his throat slashed why 4 Phil guys *it was cut but not real bad* and was robbed of 20, 000 Pesos at 2 AM near Del pilar and Manbini *There is a cop station there too* Huh? What the hell are you doing walking around with 20, 000 peso in Ermita at 2 AM?
I looked up the word Dumb Ass and sure enough his photo was there.
I think I bored you guys enough[/QUOTE]
This thread has lots of reports regarding the locations for P4P in MM. But freebies have a part in the ISG forum too. There is little information though about meeting quality SYT freebies other than via PL, DIA etc. And who wants to be in front of a computer screen for hours and hours.
Anyway, here is one suggestion for freebie fans based on some of my experiences (I have lived in PI on a number of occasions: my first visit goes back to the days when bars used to have signs asking patrons to leave their guns at the front desk).
On my last sojourn there I had an apartment near St Luke's Hospital. I won't mention the name, as I was one of very few foreigners there at the time, but it was a Megaworld project (aren't they all?) , and near Burgos Circle.
This training hospital proved to be a great place to meet SYTs. Girls had paid big bucks to do their training, many had plans for working O / S, and were very happy to meet foreigners, some of whom might also contribute to their training fund!
Generally I sat in one of the hospital's coffee shops or cafes, or browse one of the other shops there. It was so easy to catch the eye of a friendly nurse walking past (before or after their shift). Or, I would walk near the hospital, say near S&R. Sometimes I did not even reach the hospital itself before being accosted. One even introduced herself to me outside the local HSBC.
In fact, overall, it was a very pleasant area to meet quality SYTs. Apart from the traffic on 32nd St (?) , there was little traffic, no noisy smoky taxis (just the quiet electric local ones) , no huge crowds, and many good eating places. I used to enjoy strolling the car-free Bonifacio High St and over to the hospital area with the likelihood of meeting a SYT. There was also an International school closer to Market! Market! That was quite productive.
I rarely felt the need to travel further afield! I remember in one 12 month period, apart from business meetings and business trips, I only went out to Glorietta, MegaMall and Greenhills a few times. But I would often travel outside MM to places like Tagaytay, Batangas, Bataan, Zambales etc, either with a SYT or on a mission! And no, I didn't stop off on the way at AC!
Trust this is of interest to the freebie fans on this thread.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Cool Traveler;1566407][/QUOTE]Thank you for your advice. Being a first timer to any mongering destination is always exciting but a little bit scary as you know one would be hanging out with random chicks at weird times. Thanks for pointing out the safety side of things. Are the bars and clubs as safe as BKK? Are there many girls who would clean you up the first chance they get.
I PMed instructions, addresses and telephone numbers of a few casas in Manila to a few bros, who posted good info and were helpful to others. I hope they find those casas and bring back more info so I can have better times next time.
Looks like the casas cater primarily to local Pinoys. Casa girls hang out in the lounges with their friends, dress in casual clothes, wearing very little or no make ups. They look and act like pretty, nice, sweet, innocent girls next door, which are very appealing to me. They don't have the ugly, haughty attitudes and insulting manners of the old, hardened bar girls like in LA Cafe or those in Angeles City. Foreigners definitely spoiled the old, ugly bar girls.
I hope the bros will keep access to Manila casas limited so a few of us can enjoy the good companies of the true nice, sweet, gentle, pretty girls of the Phil. We don't want to turn all Manila girls into ugly, insulting biitches of LA Cafe.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1566709]Foreigners definitely spoiled the old, ugly bar girls.[/QUOTE]Absolutely right!
Luke,
I don't know how old you are, but I guess not old enough to have observed the enormous changes which occurred in Australian women with the introduction of the Feminist movement. I was a founding member of the Women's Liberation Movement in 1969, it was the precursor to the feminist movement. The manifesto was development and emancipation of women in Australia. I thought that was a good thing, so I joined up.
In about April 1970, when I was deep in the jungle in PNG, I got the regular monthly newsletter, and in it was a statement to the effect that they were no longer a pro-women movement, they had now become an anti-men movement. I resigned immediately. However, because of my original interest, I observed the feminist movement as it grew in Austrlaia. I read all of the books written by the major movers in the feminist movement, followed some of the other literature, and watched society change. Australian women are now hardened, basically viewing men as being second rate citizens.
Back in '69, Australian women were pretty much like filipina now. But they are not any more.
The feminist movement never got any purchase into Asia and Asian women. Which is mostly why we go there in such numbers, why caucasians marry them in such numbers.
It is common to see white men with Asian women. But it is rare to see Asian men with white women. Because white women are just so unattractive.
G
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1566691]Ickyman really tries hard to prove his worth. But how would his 50 year-old info help anyone?
This old guy has nothing to be proud of his old life other than a few pieces of useless mongering info, in which he ravels in being able to dupe and take sexual advantage of poor, helpless Asian girls. This old jerk probably never had any chance with properly-bred women in Australia. He's a despicable abuser and loser.
That explains why he's so angry and jealous with other bros.[/QUOTE]
i stayed at the century park hotel for a few days during the past week, which is just a parking lot away from harrison plaza mall. if you go to the second floor of the mall, usually best in the afternoon, there are a multitude of hot girls available for pfp for very reasonable prices, but you must be cautious because many of the girls are clearly **** and will lie about their age.
however, i found a couple of really hot spinners who were 18-19 years of age, which i verified when they produced their postal identification card. they were clearly not professional pfp girls, but rather students looking for some extra pocket money. each of the girls took 1, 000 pesos for 2-3 hours, and we're great fun. i just picked them up and strolled back across the parking lot to my room at century park.
i should mention that you will likely be approached by a mamasan at the mall. one of the girls i procured was with her help. when the first couple of girls she showed me weren't suitable, she took me around to others hanging around the mall based on my criteria (one of which being a valid i'd). i didn't need to pay her anything up front, and in all cases paid the girls only after we were finished.
rg
[QUOTE=Gangles;1566716]Back in '69, Australian women were pretty much like filipina now. But they are not any more.It is common to see white men with Asian women. But it is rare to see Asian men with white women. Because white women are just so unattractive.G[/QUOTE]Hi G, I did not know Australia had an anti-man movement like the USA In the USA now you have to put up with all kinds of male bashing at work from the broads and all kinds of disgusting gay crap. I hate it. America is really going downhill. That's why I'm moving to PI.
[quote=radical guy; 1566807]i stayed at the century park hotel for a few days during the past week, which is just a parking lot away from harrison plaza mall. if you go to the second floor of the mall, usually best in the afternoon, there are a multitude of hot girls available for pfp for very reasonable prices, but you must be cautious because many of the girls are clearly **** and will lie about their age.
however, i found a couple of really hot spinners who were 18-19 years of age, which i verified when they produced their postal identification card. they were clearly not professional pfp girls, but rather students looking for some extra pocket money. each of the girls took 1, 000 pesos for 2-3 hours, and we're great fun. i just picked them up and strolled back across the parking lot to my room at century park.
i should mention that you will likely be approached by a mamasan at the mall. one of the girls i procured was with her help. when the first couple of girls she showed me weren't suitable, she took me around to others hanging around the mall based on my criteria (one of which being a valid i'd). i didn't need to pay her anything up front, and in all cases paid the girls only after we were finished.
rg[/quote]there are mixed signals coming from others wether pickups are good or bad at mentioned mall but since you obviously did visit recently i trust you on this. i have from some hidden sources heard that harrison is once again blooming as well so i am planning to do some "shopping" next time i am in town.
some question though: multitude girls? how you spot them or are they not to be missed? i never been inside harrison but like other malls i presume 2fl is rather big, can you be more precise describing where (if not totaly obvious where the girls are holding out)? and what is the deal about mamasans. is it more like girls recognize i e me as someone looking for fun and they will take me to the girls whereabouts? do we tip the "mamasans"?
i think this would be a perfect afternoon excursion, travelling down to harrison, bringing a girl or two back to makati or even maby take a night "out" staying at the century. sorry for all the questions, just got curious. i have done some mall pickups from both robinson malate, glorietta 4 and 5 and, sm ayala (well atleast the one next to glorietta4). why not widen my horizon?
when first speaking about this subject; are there any designated pickup spots at moa?
[quote=skogis; 1566842]there are mixed signals coming from others wether pickups are good or bad at mentioned mall but since you obviously did visit recently i trust you on this. i have from some hidden sources heard that harrison is once again blooming as well so i am planning to do some "shopping" next time i am in town.
some question though: multitude girls? how you spot them or are they not to be missed? i never been inside harrison but like other malls i presume 2fl is rather big, can you be more precise describing where (if not totaly obvious where the girls are holding out)? and what is the deal about mamasans. is it more like girls recognize i e me as someone looking for fun and they will take me to the girls whereabouts? do we tip the "mamasans"?
i think this would be a perfect afternoon excursion, travelling down to harrison, bringing a girl or two back to makati or even maby take a night "out" staying at the century. sorry for all the questions, just got curious. i have done some mall pickups from both robinson malate, glorietta 4 and 5 and, sm ayala (well atleast the one next to glorietta4). why not widen my horizon?
when first speaking about this subject; are there any designated pickup spots at moa?[/quote]i really like century park because of the nice pool and hot whirlpool outside. i did try to find girls at robinson mall, but no luck. i know nothing about moa.
most of the p4p girls seem to be on the upper level in the eastern part, i think. in other words, if you walk from century park and enter at the entrance where there is a greenwich, you will go up the escalator and bear right, and there is an area that is not as crowded where you walk around, and girls are sitting on the floor leaning against the wall or railing. the girls will make that unmistakable eye contact and "come hither" look, which is how i picked my first girl. the girls who are not on the hunt will quickly look away if you smile at them, so the "look" is easy to spot.
the second time, when i went upstairs to the same area, and a fiftyish woman saw me walking around and asked if i was looking for girls. i said maybe, and told her that i like them young and slim. she showed me two real cuties, each of whom claimed to be 19, but i had my doubts due to their youthful look, and demanded i'd. those first two girls had no i'd, so i started walking, but mamasan said wait, and took me to see two more, who indeed had picture postal identification showing they were 19 and 18. i picked the 18 year old, and mamasan said 2000 pesos for 3 hours. i countered with 1000 pesos, and mamasan agreed, and she also agreed that i would pay the girl at my hotel when finished. i never paid mamasan anything, so she must have gotten her commission directly from the girl later.
when i went to harrison plaza, i would say there were probably 15 or 20 girls seeking p4p, maybe more, and the quality of the girls appeared generally better, overall, than the selection available at a place like la cafe, though you really need to be careful about the possible **** factor. of course, there were a few older skanks, but the majority were young and slim, but ymmv.
rg
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1566691]Ickyman really tries hard to prove his worth. But how would his 50 year-old info help anyone?
This old guy has nothing to be proud of his old life other than a few pieces of useless mongering info, in which he ravels in being able to dupe and take sexual advantage of poor, helpless Asian girls. This old jerk probably never had any chance with properly-bred women in Australia. He's a despicable abuser and loser.
That explains why he's so angry and jealous with other bros.[/QUOTE]Whats with you dude. Your like a cat with a piece of string. Let it go.
I say again, breathe chill relax. So what if someone disagrees with you.
Get your petty little irritations away from our board.
And yes theres a hell of a lot of us who have been here a lot lot longer than you.
The more noise they make the more they crash and burn. Calipro, Daddy Warbucks, Pink Pearl and a whole host of other glad they begoners.
Let it rest, make normal posts and lets get back to business.
The ignore button is your friend, soon its going to be mine, with you in mind.
Hi Gangles.
Perhaps you overgeneralize a bit regarding women's attitudes in Australia and Asia? In think a lot of those women in the Women's Liberation movement are lesbians. They actually fuck up the men to woo young women for themselves.
What the hell were you doing in the jungle in Papa New Guinea? Screwing cannibal girls? I hang out with a few Australian guys in Asia and got to admit they were a bunch of easy-going, fun-loving guys. I really enjoyed their companies, except Ickyman who seems to be some sort of a mutant cross between a barking dog and a cockroach.
I started work in the early 90's and had to compete with women in professional and managerial jobs. Even in the very best and straight-laced companies in the US, women prove to be far more flexible and therefore more effective in their jobs than men in working their employees and their bosses. Despite very severe penalties for sexual harassment of employees in business, even professional and managerial women can always give away their pussies to their bosses to get a leg up on competition or o stay in their jobs.
US women are very tough competition against men in work, social status, love, happiness, everything in life. I do know if they love someone, they love that person to death. If they don't love you, they treat you like trash. It seems they are not neutral, but always biased in their attitudes.
Like all other countries, women with economic power, and therefore independence, will fight hard to have personal power in relationships. Girls in the Phil are docile and submissive because they are still financially dependent on the men to stay alive. If Phil girls have economic opportunities to be self-sufficient, you will see them showing their nasty attitudes. The old ugly working girls in LA Cafe already show their ugly attitudes.
I met a young, pretty British girl on the road. She was by far the prettiest, smartest, wittiest I ever found. She was very interested in me. We were a good match, had a lot of fun and happiness together. Don't ask me how I fucked that relationship up. I was stupid and am still grieving.
You showed some very Interesting view points. Will continue later. Cheers.
[QUOTE=Gangles; 1566716]Luke,
I don't know how old you are, but I guess not old enough to have observed the enormous changes which occurred in Australian women with the introduction of the Feminist movement. I was a founding member of the Women's Liberation Movement in 1969, it was the precursor to the feminist movement. The manifesto was development and emancipation of women in Australia. I thought that was a good thing, so I joined up.
In about April 1970, when I was deep in the jungle in PNG, I got the regular monthly newsletter, and in it was a statement to the effect that they were no longer a pro-women movement, they had now become an anti-men movement. I resigned immediately. However, because of my original interest, I observed the feminist movement as it grew in Austrlaia. I read all of the books written by the major movers in the feminist movement, followed some of the other literature, and watched society change. Australian women are now hardened, basically viewing men as being second rate citizens.
Back in '69, Australian women were pretty much like filipina now. But they are not any more.
The feminist movement never got any purchase into Asia and Asian women. Which is mostly why we go there in such numbers, why caucasians marry them in such numbers.
It is common to see white men with Asian women. But it is rare to see Asian men with white women. Because white women are just so unattractive.
G[/QUOTE]
If guys are planning to move to the Philippines primarily because the attitude of women is perceived as "bad" in their home country then they are making a mistake.
There are so many other factors to consider.
We all know that it is better to change a career because another one is much more attractive and challenging. It is not always a good idea to leave a job (or a country) just because of negative perceptions unless you do due diligence on the frying pan into which you are jumping..
I left a very comfortable position with a guaranteed career progression in my country to work in the Philippines because (among many other reasons) , it offered lots of exciting new challenges in my line of work and my remuneration would be better, with greater sense of achievement. At no stage did the availability of attractive women come into the equation. I don't regret the decision to come to the Philippines because my work is 80% of my life and I enjoy what i do.
However, for those guys considering retiring here because of feminism in their home country and because of the availability of filipinas I would advise having a very good think about it and look ahead at least 10 or 20 years when you may not be as healthy or virile as you are now.
The infrastructure in the Philippines is seriously eroding, and this summer has shown it very clearly. There are zero signs that it will stop eroding further because as the story of the PDAF scam emerges (the whole truth will probably never be known) , there will be a long period (maybe a decade) of total instability and paralysis which will mean very little money will be spent on services (like power, phones, internet, roads, bridges etc).
Once you are retired you need much much more than just pretty women to look at or seduce in shopping malls or online. There are 24 hours in every day. Living outside of a major city will NOT solve the problem (if anything it will be worse, because infrastructure will be failing).
Of course, if you are hoping to live here in the hills with no modern conveniences, living in a nipa hut with no TV and growing your own meat and vegetables with a willing nubile young woman or two in loin cloths to wait on you hand and foot and non-stop sex all day then this will be paradise. The beer may not be cold though.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1566895]if you are hoping to live here in the hills with no modern conveniences, living in a nipa hut with no TV and growing your own meat and vegetables with a willing nubile young woman or two in loin cloths to wait on you hand and foot and non-stop sex all day then this will be paradise. The beer may not be cold though.[/QUOTE]Great perception and sensible advice Red Kilt. The infrastructure in the Philippines is eroding (power, water, communications, and a constipated legal system that flushes out none of the waste and dregs). Politicians are great on rhetoric and self aggrandisement but short on achievement. If you are staying here in the Phils other than a visit then you either need a good challenging job or a retirement activity that keeps you sane and stimulated. And a saturation of pussy, beer, cigarettes is hardly that answer. But for some it is a nice and relatively quick pathway to exit this world.
[QUOTE=KongKing;1566912]Great perception and sensible advice Red Kilt. The infrastructure in the Philippines is eroding (power, water, communications, and a constipated legal system that flushes out none of the waste and dregs). Politicians are great on rhetoric and self aggrandisement but short on achievement. If you are staying here in the Phils other than a visit then you either need a good challenging job or a retirement activity that keeps you sane and stimulated. And a saturation of pussy, beer, cigarettes is hardly that answer. But for some it is a nice and relatively quick pathway to exit this world.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with you. I'm for myself assuming 6 months in Manila / Philippines and 6 months per year in various other countries where things work / work differently.
Balance is all important and so is ensuring that you don't go crazy.
I think for a prolonged stay, NOT reading the local papers would be a good habit # 1, so one wouldn't have to read / listen to self aggrandisement (aggrandizement for the Americans) that does happen, as well the wonderful allegations of " black propaganda" (does propaganda have a variety of colours?
I think having some "smart" friends would be important whether its other guys or smart girls but too many of the " have you had your lunch" friends would drive you stir crazy.
Anyone retiring there should have a disciplined plan as to how to survive... This includes devoting disciplined parts of each / day week to some activities and not wallowing in pussy and beer every day.
[QUOTE=KongKing;1566912]Great perception and sensible advice Red Kilt. The infrastructure in the Philippines is eroding (power, water, communications, and a constipated legal system that flushes out none of the waste and dregs). Politicians are great on rhetoric and self aggrandisement but short on achievement. If you are staying here in the Phils other than a visit then you either need a good challenging job or a retirement activity that keeps you sane and stimulated. And a saturation of pussy, beer, cigarettes is hardly that answer. But for some it is a nice and relatively quick pathway to exit this world.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with you. I'm for myself assuming 6 months in Manila / Philippines and 6 months per year in various other countries where things work / work differently.
Balance is all important and so is ensuring that you don't go crazy.
I think for a prolonged stay, NOT reading the local papers would be a good habit # 1, so one wouldn't have to read / listen to self aggrandisement (aggrandizement for the Americans) that does happen, as well the wonderful allegations of " black propaganda" (does propaganda have a variety of colours?
I think having some "smart" friends would be important whether its other guys or smart girls but too many of the " have you had your lunch" friends would drive you stir crazy.
Anyone retiring there should have a disciplined plan as to how to survive... This includes devoting disciplined parts of each / day week to some activities and not wallowing in pussy and beer every day.
After being subject to [B]repeated crude personal attacks[/B] for mythical 'daily needling' (must be invisible posts!), I have decided to put my longheld philosophical pacificism on hold for a few minutes.
1. ISGers could not care less about, and do not want to read, posts where a person is attacking another (in fact they wish the person would just STFU).
2. Serial antagonists lose all credibility in the eyes of other ISGers.
3. Pissing matches can impact the number of genuine on-topic posts to the board!
POV post ended; never to be raised again by me (points should be obvious to all, but unfortunately apparently not).
Cheers.
[I]P.S. Sorry, I only have 50 year old photos of Filipinas, so here is a recent Chinese SYT of mine to compensate for having to read this rant.
P.P.S. For readers who are not familiar with Manila, the whole of Bonifacio GC (see my last post) is a new development not far from Makati (photo was taken from my apartment). At least one other ISGer also has apartment here.[/I]
The Irish do not need cold beer. And a couple nubile waiting on me hand and foot. See'Mon. That is heaven.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1566935]Totally agree with you. I'm for myself assuming 6 months in Manila / Philippines and 6 months per year in various other countries where things work / work differently.
Balance is all important and so is ensuring that you don't go crazy.
I think for a prolonged stay, NOT reading the local papers would be a good habit # 1, so one wouldn't have to read / listen to self aggrandisement (aggrandizement for the Americans) that does happen, as well the wonderful allegations of " black propaganda" (does propaganda have a variety of colours?
I think having some "smart" friends would be important whether its other guys or smart girls but too many of the " have you had your lunch" friends would drive you stir crazy.
Anyone retiring there should have a disciplined plan as to how to survive... This includes devoting disciplined parts of each / day week to some activities and not wallowing in pussy and beer every day.[/QUOTE]I seriously considered settling in Manila, with intermittent trips / contracts overseas (but I chose another place).
The reasons for deciding against MM did not include concern about brain numbing conversations with 'have you had your lunch' girls. I met girls that were interesting to talk to (and Freebie, you probably also met some girls able to hold a reasonable conversation from an institution, where we have both had success).
Instead, the main reason that counted against Manila was the gaggle of relatives of my ex-wife. The parents were well-off (ran a large sand carrying company), but with one exception, all (there were 11 children) were spoiled no-hopers. Every time I went to MM, they would somehow find out and they, and their children, would be constantly texting me wanting hand-outs or 'loans'. I actually loaned one of them the money for a new motor-bike (he was a trike driver). Did the bike get bought, or the money repaid; of course not.
If you do decide to settle in PI, then you need to be prepared to be bombarded with pleas from, not just the girl (s) of the moment, but a whole assortment of family members, cousins, nieces, and various other hangers-on, of all the girls with whom you have ever had more than a one-night stand. I am not being overly critical of these people (they are only trying to survive), but it becomes very tedious and annoying! And you cannot escape them, because they know where you live!
My two centavos worth.
Cheers.
I was in Manila last week. Took the LRT from the United Nations Station to the Carriedo Station at around 11 am. For anyone who has not partooked in the local SWs, they tend to congregate in two areas. On the east side of Rizal they are in close proximity to the Astrotel Hotel (use Google Maps and type in "Astrotel, Rizal Avenue, Manila" for the location). The other area is on the west side of Rizal between the Puregold Store and Sogo Hotel. For those of you who desire stunners, go somewhere else. It's rare I see anyone who I would rate above a 5 or 6, and I tend to grade on a curve, LOL. But for 500 pesos a whack, you can't be too picky.
Anyway, I exited the LRT and headed down the steps and then turned left and headed north along the east side of Rizal Avenue. I passed a couple of SWs hanging out at the Astrotel, but they weren't my cup of tea. By the way, there is a mobile sign in front of the hotel entrance and the girls tend to stand behind the sign, as to shield themselves from the piercing eyes of the locals.
North of the Astrotel there were about 6 SWs milling around in various spots, but one caught my eye. Tall for a Pinay, maybe 5' 4", and somewhat big boned. She was not what I would call "fat", but she had a larger body structure than the average filipina. Had a pretty face but I would not call her cute or gorgeous. Just an average Pinay, but she was dressed well and wore some cute moderately-high wedgie sandal heels. She had freshly washed hair and wore nice make up, and had a pretty smile. My spider sense started tingling and I smiled and said Hello,.
Her name was Grace, age 26 with two kids. I negotiated a 500 peso date, with an uncovered BJ and covered FS. I always discuss terms with the SWers so there's no confusion when we get to the room. It's amazing how many Carriedo SWs don't provide BJs, I guess their Pinoy customers don't require them, LOL.
We walk hand in hand across Rizal to the Sogo hotel, and we head to the 6th floor where I pay the 130 pesos fee for 1 hour. We head into the hotel room and asked her if she wanted me or her to shower first. To my surprise she said, "I will shower with you". So we stripped down, put on our Sogo slippers and headed to the shower. She soaped and rinsed me sufficiently, then unexpectedly kneeled down and started blowing me. Patiently sucking my shaft and licking my balls, ooooolala! Ahhhh, the feeling of warm water cascading over us while she did the deed was heavenly, and it took all my anti-concentration powers to keep from busting my nut.
After a couple of minutes I motioned her to stop. We then toweled each other dry, and headed to the bed. I pulled out a condom and we laid down and pulled the sheet over us because the air con was working way too well. I laid on my side and stuck out my arm and motioned I wanted her to lay right next to me. We made some small talk, then started kissing. Not just kissing, but deep throat-tongue swirling kissing like two 18 year old kids. We spend about 5 minutes smacking away, then I started licking her neck and nipples, which made her moan in what I believe to be a response to genuine pleasure.
I then motioned I wanted her to resume sucking on my little buddy. She immediately resumed her enthusiastic blow job. My gosh, is there anything more beautiful in the world than watching the face of a woman who enjoys sucking cock? Then for the finale', I unwrapped my USA Made ultrathin condom and had her guide it in. The sensation of being inside of her felt so good, it fit like a glove! I remember thinking that I'd never had a pussy that felt this perfect. In fact, I had to pull out of her a few times to keep from cumming too quickly.
After a few minutes I was ready to blow, so I started giving her some hard pounding. Then she did something that no other woman has ever done with me. After continuously and vigorously thrusting her pelvis into mine, she let out a loud moan and sighed "I'm finished". Of course I wasn't done yet, so after a brief pause, I resumed vigorously pounding her and after about 30 seconds I blew my wad into the latex. She then moaned again, so I guess she wasn't totally finished after all, haha.
After cleaning ourselves up, we laid on the bed and made some small talk. She commutes from Caloocan City to Carriedo each day, which is a 1 hour commute each way. A long way to come to earn 500 pesos per event, but she says she averages 1 to 3 customers per day, which gives her enough to pay the bills. She says she arrives around 9 am and goes home around 4 pm.
3 months prior she had returned from a 2 year stint in Dubai and was finding it hard to make ends meet here in the Phils while raising two kids. Sometimes we forget these women are "human beings" and are doing this kind of work to survive in this world.
Also, it turns out I was the first foreign man she had ever been with. I told her I was skeptical, and she said "no, I swear it is true". I then told me I was such a handsome man (yeah right, but I trust her judgment) and she was very attracted to this 55 year old guy. What an ego boost, haha.
We departed the Sogo and went to a nearby store so I could buy some refreshments. Bottled water for me and pineapple juice for her. Total cost was 650 pesos (500 for her, 130 for the room, and 20 pesos for her drink). She didn't ask for a tip and I didn't offer, I don't like spoiling the market.
I like Carriedo for a number of reasons. First, it's easy to get to as long as you don't have a phobia about riding on the LRT / MRT system. Second, it's a safe place to go during the day. It's a crowded area with lots of vendors and shoppers. I haven't even encountered any beggars. Just make sure your money is zipped up and not accessible to pickpocketers. Also, leave your credit cards and extra money in your hotel safe. Don't bring anything that you can't afford to lose.
Third, the price is right. Some women there will quote you 1000 pesos, but will drop it down to 500 if you start walking away. Make sure to stand your ground!
Fourth, it's rare to see another white person in that area of town. I've had 8 women total there in a past couple of years and most of them have said I'm their first foreign customer. Consequently, I've gotten reasonably good service from each one. Not every one has given GFE like this girl, but they have been nice, pleasant, clean, fun to be with, and have provided good service. Just make sure to negotiate the details before heading to the hotel.
I've mongered in all corners of the world. At times I pay a lot of money for companionship and other times I pay a pittance. We all know there's a definite relationship between price and expectation of service. But there's certainly no correlation between price and the quality of the outcome. It kills me to pay $150-200 US for bad service in Hong Kong or Singapore. But if I were to pay $10 for bad service in Carriedo, I can easily just write it off and go find another one.
Ok I'm done pontificating now...go forth and multiply!
[QUOTE=Ikksman;1568066]I seriously considered settling in Manila...
If you do decide to settle in PI, then you need to be prepared to be bombarded with pleas from, not just the girl (s) of the moment, but a whole assortment of family members, cousins, nieces, and various other hangers-on, of all the girls with whom you have ever had more than a one-night stand...[/QUOTE]I admit, that Madagascar is the only 'poor country' I got to know better.
But my understanding of 'social systems' in such a country is, that you never just date a young lady in a LTR, but you get connected with the needs of the whole family clan. If this family gets to know you in person, it's getting you into even more financial troubles.
Another question. Why did you give money to a spoiled kid, hoping this kid would earn money and will pay back your 'loan' - I did the same in Madagascar long time ago for buying a Citroen 2 CV as a taxi plus the license and was naive in believing that a 'loan' is a 'loan'. Strangely enough, the car was stolen soon and they asked me for another 'loan'. Of course I declined, cut any contacts with this family and wrote off the money as an expensive learning experience.
[QUOTE=Ganesha;1568459]I admit, that Madagascar is the only 'poor country' I got to know better.
But my understanding of 'social systems' in such a country is, that you never just date a young lady in a LTR, but you get connected with the needs of the whole family clan. If this family gets to know you in person, it's getting you into even more financial troubles.
Another question. Why did you give money to a spoiled kid, hoping this kid would earn money and will pay back your 'loan' - I did the same in Madagascar long time ago for buying a Citroen 2 CV as a taxi plus the license and was naive in believing that a 'loan' is a 'loan'. Strangely enough, the car was stolen soon and they asked me for another 'loan'. Of course I declined, cut any contacts with this family and wrote off the money as an expensive learning experience.[/QUOTE]Hi Ganesha,
I agree that in many countries (not just developing countries) there are 'social systems', where families are close-knit, and include extended families, and where filial responsibilities are taken seriously. In these places, the sharing of wealth is expected, and common.
But in PI, the asking and giving occurs not just between family, but between friends and acquaintances. I think it is a cultural thing, like the way Filipina share food with each other. I knew a DH in Hong Kong who had no idea of how much money she had loaned, or borrowed, from many of her friends there. It was just something that happened all the time.
If I have known a SYT for one week, I am surely not part of an extended family at that point of time. Sometimes they start asking for money within minutes of meeting! One hears some truly inventive stories. I am sure that other ISGers here could relate many hilarious episodes.
The spoiled trike driver 'kid' was 43 yo with a wife and 3 children, none of whom worked (even though one, a bakla, was a university graduate). As my wife's eldest brother, with a serious heart condition, I sincerely wanted to help him as his trike was truly stuffed. And, although I suspected that I might never see the money again, I did not expect him to just repair his old motor bike and give the rest of the money to his wife and kids.
I have helped a number of Filipina with 'loans' as I believe that the girls are more than just 'fresh meat' as some people seem to believe. I have put a girl through university (she was a relative), set up a girl's online shopping site, helped another girl obtain a nursing job in Hong Kong, and provided the government bond for a girl to migrate to Australia (she was a doctor).
If I had unlimited funds, I would certainly help many more deserving cases there. But, if I lived there, the scale of requests from ex-family and ex-gfs would be truly tedious!
Cheers,
Ikksman.
[I]Warning: I am one of a bunch of sinister and heavily armed globalist illuminati who seek to infect the entire world with the values of personal liberty and several property. Amongst our many crimes is a sense of humour and the intermittent use of British spelling.[/I]
[QUOTE=Ikksman;1568488]If I had unlimited funds, I would certainly help many more deserving cases there.[/QUOTE]How do you think the likes of Marcos, Estrada, GMA, Binays, Enrile etc, despite repeated allegations of corruption, robbery etc stay in power?
Simply by loaning money for weddings, funerals, graduations (boy, Filipinos have graduations for each and every reason, even for completing 3 month diploma, gown compulsory).
The more money you lon (with no return.) the most liked and generous you are said to be.
Stop loaning and you are painted as stingy, rich but not sharing.
I gave up trying to strike logic with the types like above, and stick with those who don't follow the Filipino thinking that its OK to ask money from even little bit rich folks, OK even bit richer looking folk.
And add to it, that their culture accept it, including forgiving robbers as they maybe robbing due to family emergency etc. As a Filipino friend described. When her jeepney was robbed the robbers had apologized and the victims felt sympathy to the culprits.
Recently a girl I never met in person asked me for money, for her to go to Dubai. And promised she will return if she gets a job.
I told her that I am between contracts, I.e. No job, I.e. No pay, and she went "that's why I am asking only 20,000. Well seems you don't want me to get a better job and prosper. "
Explain that logic, if you may.
Another silly story. Recently in Singapore a group of Filipinos were caught in a credit card fraud, I.e, mis- declaration of salary to obtain credit card when based on their real pays they weren't eligible, and most did a runner with massive card debts.
Almost all Filipinos asked forgiveness as they strongly believed the abuse must have been to borrow money for family emergencies. And the Singaporeans were amazed that the Filipino community doesn't care about law breaking but are emotional when it comes to defending the 'lesser fortunate' (less fortunate in their eyes. Only.).
Mongering veteran, but first time ISG member. Ill be visiting Manila in a few weeks. Did some research on this forum and found few of the mongering areas: Makati & Ermita. I was wondering if anyone else can suggest any other areas for first time visitors on a budget.
Thanks
Hi all,
Quick question, is it possible to buy viagra over the counter in Manila without a prescription, eg at Mercury drugstore?
Thanks
[QUOTE=EconoTech;1568524] {S N I P} I gave up trying to strike logic with the types like above, and stick with those who don't follow the Filipino thinking that its OK to ask money from even little bit rich folks, OK even bit richer looking folk.
And add to it, that their culture accept it, including forgiving robbers as they maybe robbing due to family emergency etc. As a Filipino friend described. When her jeepney was robbed the robbers had apologized and the victims felt sympathy to the culprits.
{S N I P} [/QUOTE]I can't explain the logic! Probably impossible for us to fully understand.
My Filipina ex-wife never used to complain about being taken advantage of, even when one relative stole expensive sheets and towels from the apartment over a period of some weeks.
Apart from the relative to whom I 'loaned' money for the bike, all my 'investments' were carefully screened, and a few paid big dividends in other ways! Anyway, I am glad that I was able to help some girls, girls who I felt were more responsible than your typical Filipina.
I have a good sixth sense and intuition, and only once have I stupidly believed a story that was so incredible, I felt she could not be making it up! But they don't give up. One girl has continued to send me YM messages every few months for the past 5 years!
If the girls put as much effort and creativity into getting work and a career of some sort, as they put into their stories, then their poverty would be significantly reduced. On the other hand, maybe the story business is a highly lucrative career for some of the girls!
And I will certainly continue to help deserving people when I can. And not necessarily sexy young Pinay. Some years ago I paid boarding and tuition fees in Australia for the son of a Christian Balinese family I met and stayed with in Bali (there are a few Christian villages in the Western part of the island, although they are persecuted by the Hindu majority).
What is the old saying about Westerners in developing countries? There are mercenaries, missionaries, misfits and mongerers! I am not sure which category I belong to! Maybe all!
Cheers.
[QUOTE=EconoTech;1568524] The more money you loan (with no return.) the most liked and generous you are said to be...And add to it, that their culture accept it, [/QUOTE]Unnerving. What's a regular guy to do if he wants to live peaceably in the PI?
[QUOTE=DCups;1568949]Unnerving. What's a regular guy to do if he wants to live peaceably in the PI?[/QUOTE]Keep moving around, keep changing numbers, and only give new numbers to the ones you want to keep.
And develop a heart harder than titanium for the multitude of sob stories that will come your way.
And develop some great replies... Ie.
"I would love to help you but my bank account was hacked so no spare cash".
" My wallet was snatched and so all my spare cash gone".
" My money is locked up in a court case with ex wife, will be happy to help you when its settled.
" I gave a girl a loan of P20,000 and she never paid it back so now I'm very wary".
" No I won't loan you anything till I have a 3 some with you and your younger cousin".
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1568975]
" No I won't loan you anything till I have a 3 some with you and your younger cousin".[/QUOTE]That's fumy. I like this one a lot.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1568975]Keep moving around, keep changing numbers, and only give new numbers to the ones you want to keep. And develop a heart harder than titanium for the multitude of sob stories that will come your way. And develop some great replies... [/QUOTE]Geez it might be easier to specify only orphan girls with jobs and no kids in my DIA profile! Holy crap!
[QUOTE=DCups;1569024]Geez it might be easier to specify only orphan girls with jobs and no kids in my DIA profile! Holy crap![/QUOTE]You can write what you like in your profile. No one will read it... I clearly state an age requirement of less than 40, weight requirement of about 100 pounds and location in Manila only.
Invariably, its Hi I'm Veronica from Zamboanga and I'm 52 and I'm chubby, can I be your friend.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1569054]You can write what you like in your profile. No one will read it... I clearly state an age requirement of less than 40, weight requirement of about 100 pounds and location in Manila only.
Invariably, its Hi I'm Veronica from Zamboanga and I'm 52 and I'm chubby, can I be your friend.[/QUOTE]But Zamboanga is such a lovely and friendly tourist destination!
[QUOTE=Tyrion82;1568549]Mongering veteran, but first time ISG member. Ill be visiting Manila in a few weeks. Did some research on this forum and found few of the mongering areas: Makati & Ermita. I was wondering if anyone else can suggest any other areas for first time visitors on a budget.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Like many Asian countries, there tends to be a few main areas where foreigners are specifically catered. You have identified the main MM areas (and add Malate which is an older, more dangerous district adjoining Ermita).
For locals there are generally many other options, and where local prices are paid, not the inflated foreigner price.
As you are a veteran mongerer, and therefore adventurous, ask a taxi driver for other places (and tell us your tales)!
Cheers.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1569054]You can write what you like in your profile. No one will read it... I clearly state an age requirement of less than 40, weight requirement of about 100 pounds and location in Manila only. Invariably, its Hi I'm Veronica from Zamboanga and I'm 52 and I'm chubby, can I be your friend.[/QUOTE]Sadly you are mostly correct, FF, but some girls actually STUDY it like they are taking an exam or something.
[QUOTE=Ikksman;1569100]Like many Asian countries, there tends to be a few main areas where foreigners are specifically catered. You have identified the main MM areas (and add Malate which is an older, more dangerous district adjoining Ermita).
For locals there are generally many other options, and where local prices are paid, not the inflated foreigner price.
As you are a veteran mongerer, and therefore adventurous, ask a taxi driver for other places (and tell us your tales)!
Cheers.[/QUOTE]You have it bass ackwards, particularly in advising a newbie. Ermita is the dumpy and more dangerous area. There are actually many more "upscale" places in Malate than Ermita. I lived in both places.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1569401]You have it bass ackwards, particularly in advising a newbie. Ermita is the dumpy and more dangerous area. There are actually many more "upscale" places in Malate than Ermita. I lived in both places.[/QUOTE]I stand corrected! Thanks.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1569401]You have it bass ackwards, particularly in advising a newbie. Ermita is the dumpy and more dangerous area. There are actually many more "upscale" places in Malate than Ermita. I lived in both places.[/QUOTE]As I have posted before; the boundary between Ermita and Malate is Pedro Gil.
So Eurotel is in Malate; Robinsons is in Ermita.
You are splitting hairs when you discuss the relative difference between these places, especially when you are talking about a block or two either side of Pedro Gil.
They are both in the City of Manila, and both are relative slums. Slippery is correct in that as you go further south towards Pasay the environment "improves", but not dramatically.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1569054]Invariably, its Hi I'm Veronica from Zamboanga and I'm 52 and I'm chubby, can I be your friend.[/QUOTE]Chubby? Most girls now say they are Thick. No comments.
BTW did an ad in CL, and 9 out of 10 response was from LBs, though some said they are LB, most didn't. Though by attaching a picture the mystery was solved.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;1569428]AdefinitelyI have posted before; the boundary between Ermita and Malateis is Pedro Gil.
So Eurotel is in Malate; Robinsons is in Ermita.
You are splitting hairs when you discuss the relative difference between these places, especially when you are talking about a block or two either side of Pedro Gil.
They are both in the City of Manila, and both are relative slums. Slippery is correct in that as you go further south towards Pasay the environment "improves", but not dramatically.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. I definitely want to have fun, but be safe at the same time. So, Malate is "safe", if one had to choose. I would really appreciate some reccomendations for a bar / establishement that is "safe", decent (ladies), and cheap for someone on a budget. I promise to report on my experiences once I return from my trip.
Thank you
Like the inner areas of many big cities, the atmosphere changes from block to block. And you can find a wide range of attractions within. Many of the hotels recommended here are on the Malate side of Pedro Gil.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;1569428]As I have posted before; the boundary between Ermita and Malate is Pedro Gil.
So Eurotel is in Malate; Robinsons is in Ermita.
You are splitting hairs when you discuss the relative difference between these places, especially when you are talking about a block or two either side of Pedro Gil.
They are both in the City of Manila, and both are relative slums. Slippery is correct in that as you go further south towards Pasay the environment "improves", but not dramatically.[/QUOTE]
Keen Eye Joe,
Thanks for the report of the SW scene in Manila.
I had never known of that area before.
[QUOTE=Free2;1569758]Keen Eye Joe,
Thanks for the report of the SW scene in Manila.
I had never known of that area before.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Good report!
There are pockets of SWs in many of the older areas of Manila. For the adventurous, I have many times seen SWs / FLs in and around the Divisoria markets, in Chinatown and in more than one area of Sta Cruz. I have never partaken.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Tyrion82;1569560]Thanks for the advice. I definitely want to have fun, but be safe at the same time. So, Malate is "safe", if one had to choose. I would really appreciate some reccomendations for a bar / establishement that is "safe", decent (ladies), and cheap for someone on a budget. I promise to report on my experiences once I return from my trip.
Thank you[/QUOTE]In my sincere opinion, neither Malate no Ermita is "safe" Vs, Makati?
rg,
great really great report. and i commend you on keeping the prices relative to local economic parameters. even though i was shocked at the deal you got with that nursing student from "craig's list" 2000 for two nights with full gfe. you are in control and i'm willing to bet you yourself are a great guy with these girls so much so that they feel happy spending days with you.
but i'm only interested in the "mamasan" thing in the mall. from how you described the scene in the "harrison plaza" mall the girls seem to be freelancers. why is there a mamasan in the first place. i've never been in the philipines but have picked up ladies from malls and no mamasan. what if you ignore the mamasan? would the girl still go with you?
the way i see it you as a customer don't need her services in an open mall. and unless she is sheltering these girls, they have no use for her neither.
please explain more on the mamasan thing.
thanks.
p.s. you got me fired up about the philipines.
[quote=radicalguy;1566807]i stayed at the century park hotel for a few days during the past week, which is just a parking lot away from harrison plaza mall. if you go to the second floor of the mall, usually best in the afternoon, there are a multitude of hot girls available for pfp for very reasonable prices, but you must be cautious because many of the girls are clearly **** and will lie about their age.
however, i found a couple of really hot spinners who were 18-19 years of age, which i verified when they produced their postal identification card. they were clearly not professional pfp girls, but rather students looking for some extra pocket money. each of the girls took 1, 000 pesos for 2-3 hours, and we're great fun. i just picked them up and strolled back across the parking lot to my room at century park.
i should mention that you will likely be approached by a mamasan at the mall. one of the girls i procured was with her help. when the first couple of girls she showed me weren't suitable, she took me around to others hanging around the mall based on my criteria (one of which being a valid i'd). i didn't need to pay her anything up front, and in all cases paid the girls only after we were finished.
rg[/quote]
Well after 4 trips to the PI I am finaly doing Manila, specifically Makati. The St Giles is turning out to be a great location for Makati action and the staff here is always happy and friendly. I like Burgos street, it reminds me of BBK in some ways, it's pretty easy for a new kid in town. I have a few days already under my belt and the talent here in the bars is quite nice, pricey but very nice all the same. Bottoms has a day time bf of 2100 p so you can sample the talent there for a dobale price.
I also spent a few days in AC and everything is much cheaper there but at the same time there are very few lookers there. The few good lookers in AC are either K only or drink sluts so I don't miss AC. For me AC has gone down hill in talent and might be my last effort there. I did enjoy one Atlantic dancer for a few days hanging at the Pacific Breeze pool all afternoon. The heat in May is quite strong so poolside was one of my better ideas, a lot of fun too w / my little gf.
So now I'm going to jump in the shower and then head for Bottoms where yesterday I saw a some candy I want to taste.
From the other day.
[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1569964]RG,
Great really great report. And I commend you on keeping the prices relative to local economic parameters. Even though I was shocked at the deal you got with that nursing student from "Craig's list" 2000 for two nights with full GFE. You are in control and I'm willing to bet you yourself are a great guy with these girls so much so that they feel happy spending days with you.
But I'm only interested in the "Mamasan" thing in the mall. From how you described the scene in the "Harrison Plaza" mall the girls seem to be freelancers. Why is there a Mamasan in the first place. I've never been in the Philipines but have picked up ladies from malls and no Mamasan. What if you ignore the Mamasan? Would the girl still go with you?
The way I see it you as a customer don't need her services in an open mall. And unless she is sheltering these girls, they have no use for her neither.
Please explain more on the Mamasan thing.
Thanks.
P.S. You got me fired up about the Philipines.[/QUOTE]Well, honestly, I saw the mamasan as performing a service. There are numerous girls hanging out in the mall that one would never think were available for P4 P. They just look like regular students or shoppers. Some girls are more bold, and will give you the eye, and those are easy to spot. But the mamasan will often approach a foreigner and ask, "What girl are you looking for?" Then, she will take you around the mall to various hot girls who would have been too shy to make contact on their own, but the mamasan assists with the negotiation. The lady must have shown me 5-6 girls until I found one I liked, and negotiated a price. And, surprisingly, the mamasan got nothing from me, but obviously collected her "cut" later from the girl.
Got it now.
I actually went on YouTube to find videos about "Harison plaza" hotel to catch a glims of these girls. Just to see what it looks like but I couldn't find such videos. I'll keep looking. I am inspired by the prices you've quoted and the availability of eager youthful ladies. I think I'll put Manila back in the hat again for now.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1570034]Well, honestly, I saw the mamasan as performing a service. There are numerous girls hanging out in the mall that one would never think were available for P4 P. They just look like regular students or shoppers. Some girls are more bold, and will give you the eye, and those are easy to spot. But the mamasan will often approach a foreigner and ask, "What girl are you looking for?" Then, she will take you around the mall to various hot girls who would have been too shy to make contact on their own, but the mamasan assists with the negotiation. The lady must have shown me 5-6 girls until I found one I liked, and negotiated a price. And, surprisingly, the mamasan got nothing from me, but obviously collected her "cut" later from the girl.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1569964]RG,
But I'm only interested in the "Mamasan" thing in the mall. From how you described the scene in the "Harrison Plaza" mall the girls seem to be freelancers. Why is there a Mamasan in the first place. I've never been in the Philipines but have picked up ladies from malls and no Mamasan. What if you ignore the Mamasan? Would the girl still go with you?
The way I see it you as a customer don't need her services in an open mall. And unless she is sheltering these girls, they have no use for her neither.
Please explain more on the Mamasan thing.
Thanks.
P.S. You got me fired up about the Philipines.[/QUOTE]Generally speaking if the girl came there with mamasan then they will have to kick back a portion of your donation to her (usually 200-300 p, but could be half), even if you meet her in the mall by yourself. Most mama's keep a tight leash on their girls and would know if one disappeared even for a ST encounter. OTH, if you want to repeat with the girl then you can many times meet her without mama's knowledge and she would get to keep all of your donation. If I get via a mama I always ask the girl what her cut is and usually tip accordingly (of course if the service good too), but that's me. It's not like an extra 200 p is going to break the bank or upset the status quo. And I also ask about friends too, many will show you pics of them on their phone or FB page.
Good report RG, thanks, I may have to add HP to the list for my next trip.
[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1570163] It's not like an extra 200 p is going to break the bank or upset the status quo. And I also ask about friends too, many will show you pics of them on their phone or FB page..[/QUOTE]I agree.
Of late, when I am squeezed for time, just call a mid 20's girl who can source for me girls and she doesn't take a commission from me.
I always palm her 500 for 'taxi'. As the mama eliminates the hunt for me when I am starved for time.
[QUOTE=EconoTech;1570358]Of late, when I am squeezed for time, just call a mid 20's girl who can source for me girls and she doesn't take a commission from me.
I always palm her 500 for 'taxi'. As the mama eliminates the hunt for me when I am starved for time.[/QUOTE]I use this modus operandi now for almost all my mongering. I have a few pimpettes who know exactly the specification I want and eliminate all the hassle of sourcing, negotiating and hooking-up with the girls. Most of the time they give me the facebook of their girls, so it allows me to check out the merchandise before I bring it to the counter. Of course I don't hold a pimpette responsible for the performance of the girl. The spectrum can range from the fabled PSE / GFE combo to a total starfish. That aspect I chalk-up to mongering life.
Using pimpettes is a huge time and hassle-saver. I have found that just about any girl is capable of providing the service (as every Filipina has friends, relatives, neighbors, etc)., but only a very few can provide the service reliably over a long period. Similar to Econo Tech, I also pay a flat p500 to the pimpette for arranging the hook-up. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain.
[QUOTE=AsianRain;1570529]Using pimpettes is a huge time and hassle-saver. I have found that just about any girl is capable of providing the service (as every Filipina has friends, relatives, neighbors, etc)., but only a very few can provide the service reliably over a long period. Similar to Econo Tech, I also pay a flat p500 to the pimpette for arranging the hook-up. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain.[/QUOTE]The girl I know today offered me, when I asked her jokingly if she can find me an old woman, just for the thrill if it, and a girl who can massage and a young girl.
For a) she advised her 'aunt'.
For b) her sister in law.
And for c) her niece.
This girl I am talking of, and another, work fine for me as I am not much into looks department, I only check if they aren't fat or total fugly.
After all if they were hot a few natives would have kidnapped them I guess or will be making loads of money as some rich fellow's / politician's mistress (as most pinays say as to what happens to cute girls.).
The only reason I insists on picture is, I do check if they are fat, as while I don't look for super skinny, nor baby elephants. Fat and healthy mean same for most Filipinos. They do get offended if you call a 80 kilo 4 footer as fat, as they think she is getting good food and is healthy.
[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1570081]I actually went on YouTube to find videos about "Harison plaza" hotel to catch a glims of these girls. Just to see what it looks like..<snip>[/QUOTE]Looks & performance of free lance, semi pro or indeed pro's will vary widely with mall girls. Usually these are young impoverished girls (anything from squatter to student) so don't expect too much in the looks / performance dep't. You are unlikely to find employed or hiso girls. You can get lucky sometimes as with any mongering. Its all part of the fun. You can turn up amazing results by asking an 'average' provider whom you have been serviced by if she has any friends / relatives she knows who would like to join in next time or simply fill in next time. In this country where roughly 1,000 girls a week turn 18 all you have to do is 1) Stand still, they come to you & 2) Ask nicely for what you want. Be amazed how eager they are to please you & help each other to siphon your largesse.
As stated else where Harrison Plaza is an old mall. Its not a dive but its not new & flashy. Girl quality improves with mall quality. Robinsons mall further up the street is better. Glorietta same or better. Forget Rockwell that's where hiso girls spend their rich Korean/Chinese sugar daddy's money.
Tally ho!
AV.
[QUOTE=AsianRain;1570529]Using pimpettes is a huge time and hassle-saver. I have found that just about any girl is capable of providing the service (as every Filipina has friends, relatives, neighbors, etc)., but only a very few can provide the service reliably over a long period. Similar to Econo Tech, I also pay a flat p500 to the pimpette for arranging the hook-up. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain.[/QUOTE]How does one find a good pimpette? That sounds like the way to go, especially nice because I don't like the bar.
[QUOTE=Shanghai1955;1571150]How does one find a good pimpette? That sounds like the way to go, especially nice because I don't like the bar.[/QUOTE]It's easy, take out an ad in Craig's list. They'll be banging down your door, LOL. Seriously, you develop via girls you've met or if you're lucky a fellow monger may introduce you to his (don't bother asking me for any of mine, I'm greedy, I don't share).
Besides this story, I never read in any threads and don't know of anyone, men or women, in any country who have their extended families engage in prostitution.
It does show that people in the Phil have a lot looser morals than others.
I read some historical accounts that after WWII, the Philippines voted a few times to seek statehood with the US, but the US turned them down repeatedly. In the same time frame, the US did annex Puerto Rico, not as a state, but as a commonwealth, with special tax exempts and nonvoting US citizenship to the island inhabitants.
The Philippines did have a very important location in the Western Pacific for the US fleet, but the US still declined annexing the Philippines on grounds the population is lazy, unintelligent and of weak morals fiber.
Filipinos are nice, sweet, gentle and non-aggressive. I always have good times and good sex with the girls. Their moral fiber is their own business, none of mine.
[QUOTE=EconoTech;1570558]The girl I know today offered me, when I asked her jokingly if she can find me an old woman, just for the thrill if it, and a girl who can massage and a young girl.
For a) she advised her 'aunt'.
For b) her sister in law.
And for c) her niece.
This girl I am talking of, and another, work fine for me as I am not much into looks department, I only check if they aren't fat or total fugly.
[/QUOTE]
Lets not get carried away - "just stand still and they come to you"? I am sure you are joking. I just spent all of January and February in the Philippines and was approached only one.
Time by to girls in SM Mall who came up to me while walking and asked if I would buy them lunch! Hahahahahahaah.
I confess. I admire / jealous how you guys over age 65 catch hot young chica babes every day.
The only thing I attract are the fish when I feed them bread crums while snorkeling.
You could write back. I should stick a 1000 peso note on my fore head to get attention. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Some guy here posted about buying Viagra in the local drug stores. You can without a prescription but the price is near American prices. Check on it. The guys who approach you on the street. Their product is fake don't try it.
What I suggest is ask your doctor for prescription. Stock pile it before you take your trip.
As for me. I get 4 100 gm pills per month for $20 USD. That is my health coverage. If I want more. Then it is like $20 per pill. So each month I collect 4 and have 20 to 30 to take.
With me to the Philippines.
Some comments on past posts:
1. true. Usually quality of the mall means quality choices. I might be blind but I never got a look at Mall of Asia. Advice. Don't go there on weekends unless you like wall to wall.
People.
2. I have use Harrison shopping center. Its anchor is a nice SM Department store. Has a shaky's pizza inside plus a good market to buy beer and wine to take back to your hotel.
I have enjoyed the Orchid Garden Suites hotel. Harrison / ocampo streets. I have picked up a few ladies at Harrison on and off over the last 10 years. But on my last two visits I not see the girls. Maybe it was too early but one member here said it was picking up again.
3. about a mamsan. I used before in Harrison. One advantage they have is if you not like the girls in front of you she can call others to come for you to checkout. Tell her what you.
Like and she will try to get for you.
4. I know this is not the board to talk hotels but some have mention places they take girls back and their view on malate and such.
I have always stayed in malate in the past and never had a problem. This last visit. Jan / Feb / March. I stayed in pasay at the shogun hotel for 1900 / per night includes breakfast.
What is great is that if you make reservation before arriving they will pick you up at the airport. Saving you 250 pesos. The normal charge. The airport taxi will try to get 500 or.
More. Last point this hotel is just 7 peso 10 minute jeepney ride to Mall of Asia.
5. date sites are good to use to find girls you might want to meet during your visit. Before going. One month in advance. Used cherry blossoms, DNA, tagged. The last two are free and most know.
I wish I had more to share because in the past I learned a lot.
Don't be mad. I first used this site starting in 1995. It seems there is a lot more arguing and blasting each other. Complaining and less sharing of adventures.
There are some great posts. Many are very informative. I just see more and more arguing back and forth than in the past.
I just scroll past all of that and look for the meaningful posts.
My last trip. I met 6 woman during my 2 month stay. Enjoyed my time with two. Took one to Bohol / panglao island for 3 days. The other one to oslob to jump in the water with the whalesharks or butanding. Yes, I got to jump in the girl a few times.
All of you good luck. Stay happy and healthy.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1571224]
Filipinos are nice, sweet, gentle and non-aggressive. I always have good times and good sex with the girls. Their moral fiber is their own business, none of mine.[/QUOTE]If you're going there to be w / them, then you're not far from them on any level.
There is no moral upper ground here on ISG.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1571224]
The Philippines did have a very important location in the Western Pacific for the US fleet, but the US still declined annexing the Philippines on grounds the population is lazy, unintelligent and of weak morals fiber.
[/QUOTE]I suspect this is your imagination based on experience at work here Luke.
Unless you can provide a substantial reference based on extensive research, I would have to seriously doubt this statement.
I have worked closely with the more intelligent members of the country in almost every region from north to south and I would suggest that the Philippines has a number of lazy, unintelligent and immoral people that fits the normal distribution (left-hand side of the bell curve) for any large developing country in the world. At the mid and opposite extreme of the bell curve, you will find some extraordinarily industrious, intelligent and extremely "moral" (whatever that means) filipinos.
I suspect from your recent posts that you were burned by the Philippines and you are determined to paint the most negative picture that you can of your experiences. Experienced visitors and residents like me know that many of your comments (including the one re-quoted above) are just plain silly.
[QUOTE=Shanghai1955;1571150]How does one find a good pimpette? That sounds like the way to go, especially nice because I don't like the bar.[/QUOTE]Find a girl for sex, ask the girl if she has any friends who would like to join in / take her place next time. Its that easy. Even bars, pick a nice girl that you feel is keen, ask her if she has friend who's like to join a 3 some. Be amazed...
AV
[QUOTE=RedKilt;1571301]I suspect this is your imagination based on experience at work here Luke.
Unless you can provide a substantial reference based on extensive research, I would have to seriously doubt this statement..[/QUOTE]And, Filipinos lacking morals?
They have their own morals.
Like the mountain folks insisting I should not spend time with a prospective girl vs some other parts where I was casually warned that I will end up dead if I get a girl of their area pregnant .
The casual sex / sex for benefits and not thinking of it as OK, I believe has more to do with lower pay and as long as no messy thing afterwards, a month's pay for a date is OK.
Note that unlike other Asian countries Filipinos call it a date. Except the hardened ones who straight call it a fuck session.
And American influence 'plus the church steadfastly fighting against sex education. And the natives thinking it is OK after seeing movie stars and Senators doing it adds up I guess.
After all, it is Go Forth and multiply. And any woman who gets pregnant outside marriage is strongly discouraged from abortion. It all add up.
There was a survey and it was found that almost 80% of Filipinos don't believe sex can get any girl pregnant. If a girl gets pregnant. It is Gods Grace.
[QUOTE=Shanghai1955;1571150]How does one find a good pimpette?[/QUOTE]Finding "a" pimpette is no problem. Any older girl without employment you might find at LA Cafe or trawling DIA is a potential supplier. You just need to be honest and say "I am looking for a specific kind of girl. Maybe you can help me?". Most likely she can help.
The operative word in your query is "good". How does one find a "good" pimpette? I would define a "good" pimpette as one who is: reliable with time, brings girls to my specification, can supply consistent fresh product, understands discretion, does not try to get involved with you, does not try to "up the rate" and MOST IMPORTANTLY never tries to bring her personal issues into your business relationship (sudden requests for money, various crises, etc.). To find a "good" pimpette it takes lots of trial and error and training. I went through at least 10 pimpettes until I have settled with my current stable of suppliers. Now that I have a few geese-that-lay-golden-eggs, I keep good care of them. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain
[QUOTE=GuyWifAttitude;1568916]Quick question, is it possible to buy viagra over the counter in Manila without a prescription, eg at Mercury drugstore? [/QUOTE]All I know is, that you can buy a generic thing over the counter. Not the original but it works. 100 mg tablet for around 3 USD.
[QUOTE=GuyWifAttitude;1568916]
is it possible to buy viagra over the counter in Manila without a prescription, eg at Mercury drugstore?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Yes, you got it right. Go to Mercury Drugstore. Funny thing, Cialis is no longer available in any drugstore anywhere in the PI. A pharmacist told me the distributor lost his license.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;1571301]Unless you can provide a substantial reference based on extensive research, I would have to seriously doubt this statement. I have worked closely with the more intelligent members of the country .[/QUOTE]Hi Guys, I have to go with Red on this one. We all have lazy, immoral people in our own countries so to characterize an entire country this way is just plain wrong. Additionally, there are many kinds of intelligences. Read Howard Gardner's Multiple Intelligence Theory if you are interested. Emotional intelligence stemmed from this. Music, too, for example, is another intelligence and I bet Filipinos as a race would score high on that. Sure, the girls we meet on DIA or LA Cafe are usually not the the brightest we have met but do you want to have deep conversations or do you want to get laid by a sweet young thing?
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1571489]Yes, you got it right. Go to Mercury Drugstore. Funny thing, Cialis is no longer available in any drugstore anywhere in the PI. A pharmacist told me the distributor lost his license.[/QUOTE]Thanks Natty Bumpo.
You suspect wrong.
I really like sex and relationships with Filipinas because they speak English, even though they are not as good-looking as girls in China, Korea, Taiwan, Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia or Japan.
I am not trying to paint the most negative pictures of the Philippines. In contrary I recommend the Phil as one of the best sex vacation locations to the bros.
I am not about to do a full-blown research about the Phil for your benefits. You can do that yourself. There were lots of references to US Congress turning down proposals to annex the Philippines after WWII. It's not my words, but US legislators summing up the situation then, calling these islanders "Asian niggers.".
Both the Philippines and Puerto rico were US colony before WWII, but the US granted nonvoting US citizenship to Puerto Ricans as a commonwealth, not a state, so residents don't have to pay US federal income taxes, along with decades of import tax exempt for products. US drugs and medical devices invested in PR, raising local wages and incomes to near US levels.
Unlike all other countries I have spent time in, there are just way too many men and women in the Philippines offer to sell girls, boys, family, friends and young children for sex. While there are immoral people in any countries, in my personal experiences, the percentage of sleazy, immoral people in the Phil is very very high compared to other countries.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;1571301]I suspect this is your imagination based on experience at work here Luke.
Unless you can provide a substantial reference based on extensive research, I would have to seriously doubt this statement.
I have worked closely with the more intelligent members of the country in almost every region from north to south and I would suggest that the Philippines has a number of lazy, unintelligent and immoral people that fits the normal distribution (left-hand side of the bell curve) for any large developing country in the world. At the mid and opposite extreme of the bell curve, you will find some extraordinarily industrious, intelligent and extremely "moral" (whatever that means) filipinos.
I suspect from your recent posts that you were burned by the Philippines and you are determined to paint the most negative picture that you can of your experiences. Experienced visitors and residents like me know that many of your comments (including the one re-quoted above) are just plain silly.[/QUOTE]
Lets get real guys. Sex tourists & wife hunters visit developing countries because impoverished people provide what is sought out of need. Philippines is no different. Lets get back to discussing Manila sex scene here.
AV.
Anyone here really qualified to judge morals? Maybe the ones with the higher post counts? Or the ones on vitamin V? WTF!
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1571224]{S N I P}the Philippines voted a few times to seek statehood with the US, but the US turned them down repeatedly. {S N I P}
US still declined annexing the Philippines on grounds the population is lazy, unintelligent and of weak morals fiber. {S N I P}
[/QUOTE]There is no evidence anywhere that the Philippines, either when still a US Territory (immediately after the war), or after being granted independence, [B]EVER[/B] held a referendum on joining the US as a state [B]OR[/B] petitioned the US Congress to grant statehood.
Small grass roots movements in PI have from time to time attempted to raise the issue.
[I]End of story: back to the girls![/I]
Cheers.
[quote=amavida;1571596]lets get real guys. sex tourists & wife hunters visit developing countries because impoverished people provide what is sought out of need. philippines is no different. lets get back to discussing manila sex scene here.
av.[/quote]i just got back from my 5th pi trip and hung in manila half the time, the other half in ac. usually i pass thru manila but this time i wanted to see what all the fuss is about. i didn't stray far from makati but did check out havana cafe a couple of times and took a peek in la cafe. edsa will have to wait for my next trip, i heard edsa used to be less expensive than makati but not anymore so i thought i would skip it, there's plenty of pussy in makati so i stayed put on burgos street.
what i liked about burgos was it is a condensed scene w / lots of action on 3 short blocks. later in the evening all the massage girls come out and it gets pretty intense. lots of options and i did luck one time w / a double bbbj session, it was off the charts in the ecstasy department. the bar girls in general were well above what angeles city has to offer (these days), plenty 7's and a few 8's imo. my go to bars were 1. bottoms 2. kojax and high heels had some nice items as well. those are the ones i can remember now in my jet lagged ppd state of being, there were some nice ladies rep001tered around the scene but i usually found something at bottoms or kojax, kojax having the better take out price at 2,600 p, bottoms the worst at 3,900 p. if i spent substantial time in makati i would steer clear of the bars but i was there for a few days so i didn't let the outrages bar fines slow me down.
overall i will never go back to the pi in the summer months, it was just toooo fucking hot! otherwise i liked manila for it's own personality and makati was perfect for a manila beginner. i stayed at st giles which was fine and a perfect short walk to the burgos st. action. you can also walk to greenbelt from st giles easily if you want to sweat. the havana cafe had (mostly) used up 30 year olds but on my 2nd visit there, there were a couple of stunners. the thing about stunners in clothes is they might not be stunners nude so you are taking a chance at places like the havana imo. there were a couple of beauties though i must say.
when you shop in the bars, especially bottoms you will see the merchandise before you purchase it which is obviously a good thing. i enjoyed tight filipina after tight filipina and i was delighted w / the quality in this aspect of the hobby. out of 12+ ladies, eight took some time getting in there, two were on the loose side and two were only bbbj material so i was a happy chappy in this regard. sweet!
the comparison to the "new ac" is manila has the prettier women easily. manila compared to cebu, cebu wins easily w / a higher percentage of stunners imo. but every manila beauty (except one from bottoms, i knew not even to ask) was bar finable by a western guy. every lady i talked to in manila was happy to go w / me. conversely in ac the very few beauties i could find were offish, not bar finable, some wouldn't even look at me. out of a thousand ladies i saw, less then 5% were not plain looking. i would say (for me) ac has 5% that are doable.
on my first trip to ac in 2010 there were 20% that were doable for me. the "new ac" is really suffering from all the raid bullshit, the better lookers aren't going there any longer and the ones that are there are full of themselves. the one thing ac still has going for it are the prices, so if you do find something nice it is inexpensive to just enjoy time together (albeit) w / a less sophisticated lady. i found a dark skinned beauty w / a perfect spinner body. we spent a few days together at the pool and just bar hopping around, she was happy w / a thou per night but i gave her more. i found her at the atlantis bar. this kind of experience was not available in the big city but i guess if one does the dia thing you can do quite nicely in manila w/ longer connections w/ the lady. manila would be a harder place to stay w/ one gal though.
as for my experience in the pi, cebu has the most beautiful women hands down. the only problem is they will not go w / westerners and so you are likely to be played by these spoiled bar sluts. i didn't have this problem in manila and the talent was plenty fine. so that's my disjointed tr but it's the best i can do right now only having been back in the usa 18 hours. life will stink for a few days until my bio rhythm gets on track and my memory fades a bit. i had a great trip and the pussy was off the charts. keep an eye on the photo gallery. cheers.
[QUOTE=Socker;1571626]As for my experience in the PI, Cebu has the most beautiful women hands down. The only problem is they will not go w / westerners [/QUOTE]Hmm I've never had a problem with Cebuanas and I am also a butterfly in Manila. So many choices, so little time!
[QUOTE=DCups;1571647]Hmm I've never had a problem with Cebuanas and I am also a butterfly in Manila. So many choices, so little time![/QUOTE]Maybe he is referring to his experience that some girls only want to go with Koreans?
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Ikksman;1571652]Maybe he is referring to his experience that some girls only want to go with Koreans?
Cheers.[/QUOTE]You're probably right, Ikks. I have seen those types of bargirls, too. I mostly go with DIAs. It's hit-and-miss but lots of hits. Wicked Roger sent me some nice referrals, too.
[QUOTE=Ikksman;1571652]Maybe he is referring to his experience that some girls only want to go with Koreans?
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Of course it's a K problem. On one hand they seem harmless and non demanding of the ladies (exception, the line up where ever they go, LOL).
But if K bars discriminate against girls who go w / westerners thus discouraging fair and equal treatment (in their bars) of all mongers then they are scu*.
The latter is what I think is happening but I am not 100% sure.
If it is so and K bars discriminate against ladies that go w/ westerners then WTF? What can be done? Probably nothing.
But yes I have been HEAVILY discriminated against by Cebu bar girls, the really hot ones. AC on a much smaller scale since there is nothing much available in AC.
Plan B is what I end up with in Cebu or AC, Manila on the other hand was a nice surprise.
AC is almost worthless so let the K's have it, haha, (jk). I love that place, wouldn't mind being buried there.
[quote=socker;1571626]i just got back from my 5th pi trip and hung in manila half the time, the other half in ac. usually i pass thru manila but this time i wanted to see what all the fuss is about. i didn't stray far from makati but did check out havana cafe a couple of times and took a peek in la cafe. edsa will have to wait for my next trip, i heard edsa used to be less expensive than makati but not anymore so i thought i would skip it, there's plenty of pussy in makati so i stayed put on burgos street.
what i liked about burgos was it is a condensed scene w / lots of action on 3 short blocks. later in the evening all the massage girls come out and it gets pretty intense. lots of options and i did luck one time w / a double bbbj session, it was off the charts in the ecstasy department. the bar girls in general were well above what angeles city has to offer (these days), plenty 7's and a few 8's imo. my go to bars were 1. bottoms 2. kojax and high heels had some nice items as well. those are the ones i can remember now in my jet lagged ppd state of being, there were some nice ladies rep001tered around the scene but i usually found something at bottoms or kojax, kojax having the better take out price at 2,600 p, bottoms the worst at 3,900 p. if i spent substantial time in makati i would steer clear of the bars but i was there for a few days so i didn't let the outrages bar fines slow me down.
i stayed at st giles which was fine and a perfect short walk to the burgos st. action. you can also walk to greenbelt from st giles easily if you want to sweat. the havana cafe had (mostly) used up 30 year olds but on my 2nd visit there, there were a couple of stunners. the thing about stunners in clothes is they might not be stunners nude so you are taking a chance at places like the havana imo. there were a couple of beauties though i must say.
when you shop in the bars, especially bottoms you will see the merchandise before you purchase it which is obviously a good thing. i enjoyed tight filipina after tight filipina and i was delighted w / the quality in this aspect of the hobby. out of 12+ ladies, eight took some time getting in there, two were on the loose side and two were only bbbj material so i was a happy chappy in this regard. sweet![/quote]i too had a great time at bottoms bar. the girl i picked up there in april gave me the best sessions of my recent trip. not only was she hot, but she had a real personality. she was, for lack of a better word, hip, so taking her out of the bar lt was better than being with any sweet province girl i had in ac or subic. the sex was wild and she was very gfe. it was those in between sex times when i could relate to her as a smart, cosmopolitan city girl that set her apart from virtually all the other pinay bar girls i had this last trip. the sex was great plus we could actually have a conversation about interesting things afterword. she was upbeat. there was no torch song about how a former boyfriend knocked her up and left her. she told me she had several international bf's who had taken to bali, singapore, bangkok and phuket. she spoke about those places with knowledge and understanding. she wanted to show me around makati at night. unfortunately i met her on my last 2 days of the trip so we did not have time for hitting the club scene. we will do that next time for sure.
the barfine at bottoms is crazy. my girl admitted as much and she plans to see me next time outside of her bar. she knows they hurt her bottom line. the lady drinks are subtracted from the barfine, but i still managed to spend a bundle in the bar. who cares when the quality is this good. she was worth 5 perimeter road rice farmer's daughters.
don't write off edsa entertainment complex. cotton club has some lookers.
as for the havana cafe, imho the selection is not much better than la cafe. if you are nearby it is always worth a look, but don't count on finding anyone special.
as good as the selection was at bottoms, there are places with even higher quality girls. i call these places the international bars. i am talking about places in pasay like the bay (formerly known as aen) , universe girl club, lala land, and liberty island. they are expensive no doubt, but the quality is most definitely here.
so i agree with you that manila has the best looking bar girls in the pi. if you click with one, you won't be sorry. on my next trip, i am planning on spending a lot more time in makati and i will probably cut down my ac time to 2 or 3 nights or drop it entirely.
socker,
thanks for the great report.
what i like about it:
you cite specific locations in manila for the action.
you give a great comparison between manila, cebu and ac. i didn't know cebu had the hottest girls. but is that strictly bar and working girls or are you talking about the native population of cebu?
i also had no idea ac is getting worst!
[quote=socker;1571626]i just got back from my 5th pi trip and hung in manila half the time, the other half in ac. usually i pass thru manila but this time i wanted to see what all the fuss is about. i didn't stray far from makati but did check out havana cafe a couple of times and took a peek in la cafe. edsa will have to wait for my next trip, i heard edsa used to be less expensive than makati but not anymore so i thought i would skip it, there's plenty of pussy in makati so i stayed put on burgos street.
what i liked about burgos was it is a condensed scene w / lots of action on 3 short blocks. later in the evening all the massage girls come out and it gets pretty intense. lots of options and i did luck one time w / a double bbbj session, it was off the charts in the ecstasy department. the bar girls in general were well above what angeles city has to offer (these days), plenty 7's and a few 8's imo. my go to bars were 1. bottoms 2. kojax and high heels had some nice items as well. those are the ones i can remember now in my jet lagged ppd state of being, there were some nice ladies rep001tered around the scene but i usually found something at bottoms or kojax, kojax having the better take out price at 2,600 p, bottoms the worst at 3,900 p. if i spent substantial time in makati i would steer clear of the bars but i was there for a few days so i didn't let the outrages bar fines slow me down.
overall i will never go back to the pi in the summer months, it was just toooo fucking hot! otherwise i liked manila for it's own personality and makati was perfect for a manila beginner. i stayed at st giles which was fine and a perfect short walk to the burgos st. action. you can also walk to greenbelt from st giles easily if you want to sweat. the havana cafe had (mostly) used up 30 year olds but on my 2nd visit there, there were a couple of stunners. the thing about stunners in clothes is they might not be stunners nude so you are taking a chance at places like the havana imo. there were a couple of beauties though i must say.
when you shop in the bars, especially bottoms you will see the merchandise before you purchase it which is obviously a good thing. i enjoyed tight filipina after tight filipina and i was delighted w / the quality in this aspect of the hobby. out of 12+ ladies, eight took some time getting in there, two were on the loose side and two were only bbbj material so i was a happy chappy in this regard. sweet!
the comparison to the "new ac" is manila has the prettier women easily. manila compared to cebu, cebu wins easily w / a higher percentage of stunners imo. but every manila beauty (except one from bottoms, i knew not even to ask) was bar finable by a western guy. every lady i talked to in manila was happy to go w / me. conversely in ac the very few beauties i could find were offish, not bar finable, some wouldn't even look at me. out of a thousand ladies i saw, less then 5% were not plain looking. i would say (for me) ac has 5% that are doable.
on my first trip to ac in 2010 there were 20% that were doable for me. the "new ac" is really suffering from all the raid bullshit, the better lookers aren't going there any longer and the ones that are there are full of themselves. the one thing ac still has going for it are the prices, so if you do find something nice it is inexpensive to just enjoy time together (albeit) w / a less sophisticated lady. i found a dark skinned beauty w / a perfect spinner body. we spent a few days together at the pool and just bar hopping around, she was happy w / a thou per night but i gave her more. i found her at the atlantis bar. this kind of experience was not available in the big city but i guess if one does the dia thing you can do quite nicely in manila w/ longer connections w/ the lady. manila would be a harder place to stay w/ one gal though.
as for my experience in the pi, cebu has the most beautiful women hands down. the only problem is they will not go w / westerners and so you are likely to be played by these spoiled bar sluts. i didn't have this problem in manila and the talent was plenty fine. so that's my disjointed tr but it's the best i can do right now only having been back in the usa 18 hours. life will stink for a few days until my bio rhythm gets on track and my memory fades a bit. i had a great trip and the pussy was off the charts. keep an eye on the photo gallery. cheers...[/quote]
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1571860] she had a real personality. She was, for lack of a better word, hip, so It was those in between sex times when I could relate to her as a smart, cosmopolitan city girl that set her apart from virtually all plus we could actually have a conversation about interesting things afterword.[/QUOTE]Did she happen to have any hip, cosmopolitan city girl suggestions for cheap hotels that you could relate to?
[QUOTE=Socker;1571626] Life will stink for a few days until my bio rhythm gets on track and my memory fades a bit. I had a great trip and the pussy was off the charts. Keep an eye on the photo gallery. Cheers...[/QUOTE]Great report, Bro Socker! Nice to meet you and now? PPD? Means Post Philippine Depression?
Cheers Mate!
About 5% doable girls in Angeles City is about right.
I did barfine a good-looking young girl from Atlantis, only to be screwed by her.
Girls in Manilla are much better-looking, nice, sweet, gentle, sexy, with good attitudes. One of the young girls I took from LA Cafe was horny, she was literally fucking my brains out...hehe.
[QUOTE=Socker;1571626]I just got back from my 5th PI trip and hung in Manila half the time, the other half in AC.
The comparison to the "NEW AC" is Manila has the prettier women easily. Manila compared to Cebu, Cebu wins easily w / a higher percentage of stunners IMO. BUT every Manila beauty (except one from Bottoms, I knew not even to ask) was bar finable by a western guy. Every lady I talked to in Manila was happy to go w / me. Conversely in AC the very few beauties I could find were offish, not bar finable, some wouldn't even look at me. Out of a thousand ladies I saw, less then 5% were not plain looking. I would say (for me) AC has 5% that are doable.
On my first trip to AC in 2010 there were 20% that were doable for me. The "NEW AC" is really suffering from all the raid bullshit, the better lookers aren't going there any longer and the ones that are there are full of themselves. The one thing AC still has going for it are the prices, so if you do find something nice it is inexpensive to just enjoy time together (albeit) w / a less sophisticated lady....[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Golfinho;1572077]Did she happen to have any hip, cosmopolitan city girl suggestions for cheap hotels that you could relate to?[/QUOTE]I didn't ask her about her hotel recommendations although I am sure she has been in many of the finer ones. I was staying at the Fairmont which was new to her. I think it met with her approval. LOL.
She did tell me she shares a one bedroom apartment with three other girls in Makati. I didn't have the time to go see it.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1572411]I was staying at the Fairmont which was new to her. I think it met with her approval. LOL..[/QUOTE]Nothing stimulating like when you bring your date back to your hotel room and she says she's been there in that room before. Most of them aren't smart enough to not tell you.
Have not been to Philippines in 6 yrs. One thing I found very irritating was that there was no Philippine bank I could walk into and purchase Pisos with my VISA debit card, which is common procedure at most Thai banks. My only option was to use Citibank ATMS and pay a transaction fee. Are there other options?
[QUOTE=Ekspat;1572334]Great report, Bro Socker! Nice to meet you and now? PPD? Means Post Philippine Depression?
Cheers Mate![/QUOTE]Hi Ekspat,
Yeah, when you travel solo all the time it is really great to sit down with a cool dude and have a cold one. I enjoyed our short time watching the heat go by, haha, it was so hot you could actually see it, maybe I was heat sick, I don't remember, haha?? Hope you had fun later on that night. The little cherubic Bottom's girl and I had a fabulous time, in the bars and in the room. But being it was my last night I wanted more and so I heavily participated in the Burgos St (Zoo) scene for hours.
I finally found the big titted bar girl at 2 am and by then I was no good for anything. Should of quit while I was ahead w / the one I brought by the bar to meet you. Oh well, now I'm back in the REAL world and it gets harder and harder to accept, I'll find a way till the next trip.
Thanks for that beer, I hope there's another time when I can reciprocate.
[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1572064]Socker,
Thanks for the great report.
What I like about it:
You cite specific locations in Manila for the action.
You give a great comparison between Manila, Cebu and AC. I didn't know Cebu had the hottest girls. But is that strictly bar and working girls or are you talking about the native population of Cebu?
I also had no idea AC is getting worst![/QUOTE]Just wanted to say thanks for your input. As for mongering in the PI I have mostly bar experience. A little mall and zero DIA so when I was talking about beauty in these cities I was referring to the bargirls. I didn't do enough mall work but I also noticed the Greenbelt is nowhere near as good as Ayala Mall in Cebu for random cuties.
As Natty mentioned there are other more expensive bars in Manila and maybe the top lookers are there. In Cebu I saw a higher percentage of real gems then anywhere I've been to in the PI. These gems though were heartless little hustlers. In Manila I was happy not to run into any of these types.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1571860]I too had a great time at Bottoms Bar. The girl I picked up there in April gave me the best sessions of my recent trip. Not only was she hot, but she had a real personality. She was, for lack of a better word, hip, so taking her out of the bar LT was better than being with any sweet province girl I had in AC or Subic. The sex was wild and she was very GFE. It was those in between sex times when I could relate to her as a smart, cosmopolitan city girl that set her apart from virtually all the other Pinay bar girls I had this last trip. The sex was great plus we could actually have a conversation about interesting things afterword. She was upbeat. There was no torch song about how a former boyfriend knocked her up and left her. She told me she had several international BF's who had taken to Bali, Singapore, Bangkok and Phuket. She spoke about those places with knowledge and understanding. She wanted to show me around Makati at night. Unfortunately I met her on my last 2 days of the trip so we did not have time for hitting the club scene. We will do that next time for sure..[/QUOTE]My best memory of this last trip is of floating w / my little Atlantis dancer in the PB pool. We did this everyday and it was pure bliss (for me). She was in my arms and balanced on my thighs as we bobbed up and down in the pool just drifting and drifting around. She had her arms around me and I had my arms around her backside holding her to me effortlessly. Bobbing and bobbing in the thousand degree heat, staying cool in this beautiful dream, so clear that it seems real. This hobby gets harder and harder to endure now that I'm in the USA.
Thanks for the info on the clubs in Manila, would definitely like to pop in and see the merchandise. Best to you Natty!
PI gets better as I get older, but the flights get harder and harder.
I did alot of DIA and FilCupid work before I got there. I treat DIA as a FL site, and FC as a relationship site. I found a few girls on FC I thought I could be serious with. As usual, once I meet them, it ends up being that there is something wrong. The one girl I met had bad english, and was married to her job. I had planned on being with her most of the time, so when that fell apart, I looked for other options.
I stayed on Burgos. I would not recommend the Citadel. For the cost, you can do better. The Tune Hotel, for example. The beauty of Burgos is all the options right outside your door. The first day off the flight, I took a fat massage girl up that gave a good massage and BBBJ for 1000 p. Not too bad.
I also had a great DIA experience. On DIA, I usually just pursue the 20-25 yo hotties and head the conversation towards I want them to stay the night with me (ie leave little to doubt). One girl I did not make it that far with in the chatting, but when I land she is pursuing me on skype and then texting with wanting to meet me. I was thinking Lady Boy? I told her I was at greenbelt, and boom, she arrives. And she was hot and available. After a long night of wining and dining, back to the room, and no questions asked that she is to stay the night. And it was full game on. That shit rules! We spent many days together, then off to AC and she was sad.
More to come in the AC section.
Some final observations: Definately more Asians and middle eastern men in Manila now than a few years ago, including many more Huka bars.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1572407]About 5% doable girls in Angeles City is about right.
I did barfine a good-looking young girl from Atlantis, only to be screwed by her.
Girls in Manilla are much better-looking, nice, sweet, gentle, sexy, with good attitudes. One of the young girls I took from LA Cafe was horny, she was literally fucking my brains out...hehe.[/QUOTE]Yawn... When you have something that will be interesting to us, do post.
Instead you have repeated this post several times now.
You got screwed in Angeles. OK ...so what...
[QUOTE=Golfinho;1572457]Nothing stimulating like when you bring your date back to your hotel room and she says she's been there in that room before. Most of them aren't smart enough to not tell you.[/QUOTE]Right. But this one was different in that I think she would have told me if she had been to the Fairmont before because of her more sophisticated, enlightened point of view and attitude on such things I.E. to not feel guilty about what she does or care that some confused customer might disapprove. She freely told me about her month long stay in Ubud, Bali with her American "BF" and her two week trip to Bangkok and Phuket with her Chinese-American "BF". She told me about these trysts because she felt good about them (and because I think she was suggesting that I take her somewhere nice too) not because she wasn't smart enough to not tell me. This girl was different: "Hip," for lack of a better word. LOL.
Which hotel is the closest most convenient and inexpensive to the Bay Café I arrive into Manila late this Saturday night around 12:30 am and will spend the first night in Manila before heading to AC. Want a hotel close to MBC for a first night action.
Thanks,
Chris
So I cannot even agree with a good assessment from a bro?
You have nothing better to post?
You are a rude bore and you sound like a pimp for the cheap, ugly hos in Angeles City.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1572572]Yawn... When you have something that will be interesting to us, do post.
Instead you have repeated this post several times now.
You got screwed in Angeles. OK ...so what...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1572981]So I cannot even agree with a good assessment from a bro?
You have nothing better to post?
You are a rude bore and you sound like a pimp for the cheap, ugly hos in Angeles City.[/QUOTE]Good ill informed uneducated post.
Given that I haven't been in Angeles for 15 years. But there you are, with your opinion for all to see.
Its you sweetpea, who has nothing better to post.
You've had your little petulant rant about AC and now you just keep repeating it. The girls there didn't like you. That much is obvious.
Let it go. You didn't enjoy it..Move on..
[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1572944]Which hotel is the closest most convenient and inexpensive to the Bay Caf I arrive into Manila late this Saturday night around 12:30 am and will spend the first night in Manila before heading to AC. Want a hotel close to MBC for a first night action.
Thanks,
[/QUOTE]Chris,
From Hotel Best Western Corona (aka La Corona), MBC is very close. Turn left out the Hotel door, walk three blocks; it's across the street. Can't miss it.
Please post after your visit to MBC!
BKKguru.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1573085] {S N I P}
You've had your little petulant rant about AC and now you just keep repeating it. The girls there didn't like you. That much is obvious.
Let it go. You didn't enjoy it..Move on..[/QUOTE]Bargirls obviously don't like him, as he reports [I]"You can see the looks of hostility and disgust in their eyes"[/I].
Maybe something to do with his attitude towards girls: [I]"I will try DIA and Craigslist for fresh meat...hehe."[/I].
Somehow I don't think that he is capable of moving on.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Ikksman;1573101]Bargirls obviously don't like him, as he reports [I]"You can see the looks of hostility and disgust in their eyes"[/I].
Maybe something to do with his attitude towards girls: [I]"I will try DIA and Craigslist for fresh meat...hehe."[/I].[/QUOTE]Online would be the way to go here in this case.
[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1572944]Which hotel is the closest most convenient and inexpensive to the Bay Caf I arrive into Manila late this Saturday night around 12:30 am and will spend the first night in Manila before heading to AC. Want a hotel close to MBC for a first night action.
Thanks,
Chris[/QUOTE]You have a recommendation of the Best Western (La Corona) Hotel within a few blocks of the LA Cafe. Other choices might bethe Swagman or the Southern Cross hotels are in the range of 2000 to 2500 php. Of the two, the rooms at the Southern Cross were nicer. All three hotels are located around the corner from each other.
Both the Swagman Hotel and the Southern Cross Hotel have buses that run from their hotels in Ermita (Manila) The Swagman and the Southern Cross hotels are just across the block from the Best Western (La Corona) ... Easy to walk there to catch either bus.
Both the Swagman "Fly the Bus" and the Southern Cross bus are 600 php and probably a bit more comfortable than a public bus for just a little more money.
Of the two, the Southern Cross is probably the larger and newer bus.
I have used both. Another advantage will be that either Swagman / Southern Cross bus will drop you at the major hotels here in Angeles whereas you will be at the mercy of the infamous Angeles City Trike Mafia at the Dau bus terminal to get you to your hotel.
The link for Southern Cross: [URL]http://www.thesoutherncrosshotelmanila.com/shuttle_bus.html[/URL] (Departs Southern Cross Hotel, Ermita (3:30 pm)).
The link for Swagman: [URL]http://www.swaggy.com/fly-the-bus/[/URL] (11:30 AM 3:30 PM 8:30 PM).
Cost analysis: 100 php (trike to Pasay Bus Terminal + 134 php public bus + 150 php trike from Dau = roughly 400 php versus 600 php for the Swagman / Southern Cross.
I am happy with either one of the hotel buses.
Munch.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1573085]Good ill informed uneducated post.
Given that I haven't been in Angeles for 15 years. But there you are, with your opinion for all to see.
Its you sweetpea, who has nothing better to post.
You've had your little petulant rant about AC and now you just keep repeating it. The girls there didn't like you. That much is obvious.
Let it go. You didn't enjoy it..Move on..[/QUOTE]To Freebie fan.
You are correct about the Lurker I am surprise that Jackson have not BAN him yet, he been to AC maybe once and he think he know everything no one give a damn about he get a runner and try to get his barfined back, he post that over and over and again if he have a job not been Unemployed in the US for over 10 yr he should not worry about losing the peso and stop crying about it no one care.
Fast eddie 48.
I mean the ugly looks LA Cafe girls were giving to old, geriatric guys with water eyes and drippy noses like you. Ickyman.
I always pick the best-looking young girls who are nice, sweet and sexy. I leave old, ugly biitches to old guys like you.
[QUOTE=ICKYMAN]Bargirls obviously don't like him, as he reports "You can see the looks of hostility and disgust in their eyes".
Maybe something to do with his attitude towards girls: "I will try DIA and Craigslist for fresh meat...hehe.".
Somehow I don't think that he is capable of moving on.
Cheers. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ZDavolos;1572474]Have not been to Philippines in 6 yrs. One thing I found very irritating was that there was no Philippine bank I could walk into and purchase Pisos with my VISA debit card, which is common procedure at most Thai banks. My only option was to use Citibank ATMS and pay a transaction fee. Are there other options?[/QUOTE]I found the casino (RWM) to be quite convenient. Not sure if your a gambler but it's a good place to exchange money. Safe and the exchange rates seems fair.
Paid a visit to EDSA and discovered that it is not easy finding some fun in this joint without taking at least 6 K pesos in damages to the wallet all in. I ventured into Cotton Club and the usual old buzzards and weepy eyed walruses were perched around the bar or sprawled out in booths. On stage fallen angels shuffled in an endless purgatorial dance staring towards some unseen horizon.
Thirsty old female pimps and parched barflies swarmed around me demanding lady drinks. I shooed them away like a Korean monger as I strolled leisurely down the line up on stage. A petite piece of fuck meat with an incredibly innocent look caught my attention and I pointed at her. An old hag hurriedly beckoned and yelled at her to descend from among the display of fine fuck meats packed on the platform. She came over and shook my hand introducing herself by the name Sunshine.
I took Sunshine over to a booth and sat her in my lap. I inquired if she would like to leave the bar for a bit of root and stem. She indicated that she would love that. Our courtship was sealed with a drink and her ransom was paid. We left the complex hand in hand, man and wife, a sweet newly married couple. As we exited the touts and the taxi drivers pounced but I led her away to the crossing and on to the Sogo on the other side of EDSA Boulevard.
The room in Sogo was delightfully seedy and furnished with a rubber mattress and threadbare sheets. An ancient television set hug from a corner of the wall showing porno flicks. Sunshine looked a bit antsy so I let her set some ice on fire to ease the cravings as the last thing I needed was her rushing or freaking out because she needed a fix. As it took effect her big dark eyes glazed over and the fidgeting ceased. I stripped her naked as the day she was born. Then I pushed her back on the bed greedily sucking her young spring fresh tits while sinking a thick calloused finger knuckle-deep into her slippery wet grasping puss.
I climbed on top her and spread her thin black lipped brown clam open until the pearlescent pink inside glistened wetly. Then I rammed the tip of my prick into the tight flesh. It went in an inch then met with resistance. I had to work it back and forth in her raw wet pussy gaining an inch or so of progress with every few thrusts until my pillar was buried naked in her snatch up to the stones. The ice and the sensation of bare wet skin and membranes sliding and slipping against each other soon drove her into violent ecstasy. She came furiously yelling and trashing making me drop my load in her cervix. She lay panting as I collapsed on top of her coated in a light bead of sweat. I rolled over onto the bed next to her. She smiled as I propped myself up on one elbow stroking her hair and watching my goo leak slowly out of her swollen snatch creating a wet spot on the frayed sheets revealing the rubber mattress below. Then it occurred to me that the mattress had probably been the recipient of tens of thousands bodily fluid donations.
In all cases it has become a tradition to write tripreports after they are executed. Last week I have spend in belowed Makati and I am now in BKK on my way home. I did have a strong motivation to do a fieldtrip down to Harrison mall to check out the FL birds hanging there but there was simply not enough time. I had in between mongering to do some baby monitoring as well so loosing some hours in a busy scheduel would have great effect in m preprogrammed scheduel. But it is still on my to do list.
I managed to do 10 or so birds and pics will come after I have brushed them back home but I must allready now tell about two extremely odd experiences happening this trip.
1. This 19 year old datingsitespinner came over to my hotel as in a midday session. She was shy but after a Tanduay pink she loosened up a bit. Lets say 15 minutes and she was all undressed and ready to go and we did everything according to my expectations. Fucked.
Today I get a long msg in my fake FB account from her and she by heart and all that crap thinks I am the most special guy she ever met. She admits she has met some guys before. You did not set the bar very high guys, hehe? Ofcourse this msg can be all crap and everything but I get a feeling she is genuine. We spend like 1,5 hrs together but then "I had to go somewhere" so she left (ofcourse a new girl was arriving shortly). I have ofcourse got sms's and e mails and other stuff before but nothing like this..
2. On another occation i was walking around the malls and entered Glorietta 5 (as I thought maby I would look up an earlier connection and do a surprise visit). Well did not get that far as when getting to the second fl I see two girls in a beauty shop smiling and laughing at me. I walk up to them and asked in a flirtatious manner if there was something I could assist them in. One girl just replied "you are very handsum"(with only this lvely laughter). I thought, wow, that was a nice compliment. I worked when things where hot and asked her oit to dinner. Full aware of this would create a bit of reschedueling but what don't we do to set up things like this. It is all about making sacrifise sth. Well she was realy beautiful.
Evening came and we agreed to meet 9 pm outside Gl 4 mall. She was a real stunner also out of her workhabit. But ofcourse she met up with all her workforce (4 people). This was a strange turn in event. It demands a strong heart to deal with surprises like this and tactics has to be changed all in a sudden. We did ofcourse have some text communication after we met but nothing in my mind came across to think she would meet up with chaperones. After Addams Family I am starting getting good at this and probably i should have learned as well.
Well all 5 of us had dinner and i put up my best act to devide my pray from the rest of the group without beeing successful. I got a feeling "my girl" was interested but was beeing told off by her co workers. She was all in a decent girl but she would more than likely meet up with me for hanging in the room the next day. Hm normaly this would be a walk in the park but with this one i got a doubtful mind she is not a play girl.
I did have one more "next day" but felt as stated this was very uncertain deal so went with my original plan to meet up with allready arranged more sure "dates". I build in some crappy excuse and have decided to work on this one through my fake FB accunt until next time. So I am not all in successful as I call this a miss (so far). But it was a bit fun as well to do some normal dates sut up in such a fun way..
Cool report man.
What did the "datingsitespinner" cost you and for how long?
[QUOTE=Skogis;1576802]In all cases it has become a tradition to write tripreports after they are executed. Last week I have spend in belowed Makati and I am now in BKK on my way home. I did have a strong motivation to do a fieldtrip down to Harrison mall to check out the FL birds hanging there but there was simply not enough time. I had in between mongering to do some baby monitoring as well so loosing some hours in a busy scheduel would have great effect in m preprogrammed scheduel. But it is still on my to do list.
I managed to do 10 or so birds and pics will come after I have brushed them back home but I must allready now tell about two extremely odd experiences happening this trip.
1. This 19 year old datingsitespinner came over to my hotel as in a midday session. She was shy but after a Tanduay pink she loosened up a bit. Lets say 15 minutes and she was all undressed and ready to go and we did everything according to my expectations. Fucked.
Today I get a long msg in my fake FB account from her and she by heart and all that crap thinks I am the most special guy she ever met. She admits she has met some guys before. You did not set the bar very high guys, hehe? Ofcourse this msg can be all crap and everything but I get a feeling she is genuine. We spend like 1,5 hrs together but then "I had to go somewhere" so she left (ofcourse a new girl was arriving shortly). I have ofcourse got sms's and e mails and other stuff before but nothing like this..
2. On another occation i was walking around the malls and entered Glorietta 5 (as I thought maby I would look up an earlier connection and do a surprise visit). Well did not get that far as when getting to the second fl I see two girls in a beauty shop smiling and laughing at me. I walk up to them and asked in a flirtatious manner if there was something I could assist them in. One girl just replied "you are very handsum"(with only this lvely laughter). I thought, wow, that was a nice compliment. I worked when things where hot and asked her oit to dinner. Full aware of this would create a bit of reschedueling but what don't we do to set up things like this. It is all about making sacrifise sth. Well she was realy beautiful.
Evening came and we agreed to meet 9 pm outside Gl 4 mall. She was a real stunner also out of her workhabit. But ofcourse she met up with all her workforce (4 people). This was a strange turn in event. It demands a strong heart to deal with surprises like this and tactics has to be changed all in a sudden. We did ofcourse have some text communication after we met but nothing in my mind came across to think she would meet up with chaperones. After Addams Family I am starting getting good at this and probably i should have learned as well.
Well all 5 of us had dinner and i put up my best act to devide my pray from the rest of the group without beeing successful. I got a feeling "my girl" was interested but was beeing told off by her co workers. She was all in a decent girl but she would more than likely meet up with me for hanging in the room the next day. Hm normaly this would be a walk in the park but with this one i got a doubtful mind she is not a play girl.
I did have one more "next day" but felt as stated this was very uncertain deal so went with my original plan to meet up with allready arranged more sure "dates". I build in some crappy excuse and have decided to work on this one through my fake FB accunt until next time. So I am not all in successful as I call this a miss (so far). But it was a bit fun as well to do some normal dates sut up in such a fun way..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Skogis;1576802]In all cases it has become a tradition to write tripreports after they are executed. Last week I have spend in belowed Makati and I am now in BKK on my way home. I did have a strong motivation to do a fieldtrip down to Harrison mall to check out the FL birds hanging there but there was simply not enough time. I had in between mongering to do some baby monitoring as well so loosing some hours in a busy scheduel would have great effect in m preprogrammed scheduel. But it is still on my to do list.
I managed to do 10 or so birds and pics will come after I have brushed them back home but I must allready now tell about two extremely odd experiences happening this trip.
1. This 19 year old datingsitespinner came over to my hotel as in a midday session. She was shy but after a Tanduay pink she loosened up a bit. Lets say 15 minutes and she was all undressed and ready to go and we did everything according to my expectations. Fucked.
Today I get a long msg in my fake FB account from her and she by heart and all that crap thinks I am the most special guy she ever met. She admits she has met some guys before. You did not set the bar very high guys, hehe? Ofcourse this msg can be all crap and everything but I get a feeling she is genuine. We spend like 1,5 hrs together but then "I had to go somewhere" so she left (ofcourse a new girl was arriving shortly). I have ofcourse got sms's and e mails and other stuff before but nothing like this..
2. She was a real stunner also out of her workhabit. But ofcourse she met up with all her workforce (4 people). This was a strange turn in event. It demands a strong heart to deal with surprises like this and tactics has to be changed all in a sudden. We did ofcourse have some text communication after we met but nothing in my mind came across to think she would meet up with chaperones. After Addams Family I am starting getting good at this and probably i should have learned as well.
Well all 5 of us had dinner and i put up my best act to devide my pray from the rest of the group without beeing successful. I got a feeling "my girl" was interested but was beeing told off by her co workers. She was all in a decent girl but she would more than likely meet up with me for hanging in the room the next day. Hm normaly this would be a walk in the park but with this one i got a doubtful mind she is not a play girl.
I..[/QUOTE]Am sure was as fun as always. I think if 4 had turned up for a "date"with me then I would have had an urgent meeting to attend to and sorry honey, next time maybe.
Note to monger newbies. Always have a pocketful of excuses, reasons why you have to leave, go somewhere else, ready and avaialbe to use, when the unexpected happens.
[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1576838]What did the "datingsitespinner" cost you and for how long?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1576905]Am sure was as fun as always. I think if 4 had turned up for a "date"with me then I would have had an urgent meeting to attend to and sorry honey, next time maybe.
Note to monger newbies. Always have a pocketful of excuses, reasons why you have to leave, go somewhere else, ready and avaialbe to use, when the unexpected happens.[/QUOTE]Hm I don't run an exact scheduel or plan regarding "how long" and "price" To take prices first I tend to compensate accordingly to going rates and possible slightly above. But as there are no such thing as discussion of money upfront I guve out of how much I like her and performance. If we take this shy 19 year old meeting me at her day off she was compensated 2 k.
That takes me over to how long as to some maby 2 k seems steep for 1,5 hrs. Actually that is perfect timing as we then have time to get friendly, do one or two pops incl some play and in general things does not feel rushed. I enjoy it very much when girls don't hang around to long but often we have to invent a "long list" of excuses which takes me over to Freebie's comments who I also quoted. This is very important guys. Obviously you can see I am a lot better making up them excuses when I am in my own safehaven than I am meeting a bunch outside and things does not go exactly as planned, hehe. Lets say I so far hang in there as it has somewhat just started happen lately. No reason to invent powder all over again and good old more or less laim excuses will work perfectly. Pinays are such forgiving breed of girls. To my one on one meetings I mostly use "I have a friend working in Makati who I rarely sees" and most girls accept that. Sometimes I feel not very good about it as some girls show up with bags to stay a few days.
I also set up dates differently. Morning-callcentergirls), midday- and early / late afternoondates are short ones (never discuss any length with the girls though). Late nightdates are meant for "staying the night" and discussed upfront.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1576917]I also set up dates differently. Morning-callcentergirls), midday- and early / late afternoondates are short ones (never discuss any length with the girls though). Late nightdates are meant for "staying the night" and discussed upfront.[/QUOTE]Good advice Skogis, I'm taking notes since I'm planning to go on multiple dates everyday on my next trip.
My plan is to have 4 or 5 dates set-up everyday, so if I don't get laid in one date I will go on another date couple of hours later, but if I get laid I will either cancel the next date or just meet them for a short period of time to get to know them better and make a second date if I like them. My plan is everyday to get laid twice a day (one for lunch and one for staying the night), except the 3 days I will go to Boracay and bring one girl only.
One question Skogis, what do you say to them when they ask you: How long are you staying in Phils?
Because if I say 3 or 4 days it will be too short for the busy girls, if I say the true 2 weeks they will be texting me all the time during the two weeks to meet again which I don't want since I will be texting like 40 girls during my trip, too much texting I will go crazy. Or do you suggest to lie and tell them I'm staying longer for 1 or 2 months.
By the way, I convince my fiance to let me go to Phils with my friends. I actually use a jealousy argument I had with her (made it worse, she caught the bait because she was drunk that time), and the next day I was ready to break up with her. My condition to stay with her was that she needs to prove me that she is not a jealous person anymore and let me go on this trip. She accepted even thought she kind of knows there is a good chance I will be sleeping around. Well, her fault for getting jealous when she was drunk.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;1576988]Good advice Skogis, I'm taking notes since I'm planning to go on multiple dates everyday on my next trip.
My plan is to have 4 or 5 dates set-up everyday, so if I don't get laid in one date I will go on another date couple of hours later, but if I get laid I will either cancel the next date or just meet them for a short period of time to get to know them better and make a second date if I like them. My plan is everyday to get laid twice a day (one for lunch and one for staying the night), except the 3 days I will go to Boracay and bring one girl only.
One question Skogis, what do you say to them when they ask you: How long are you staying in Phils?
Because if I say 3 or 4 days it will be too short for the busy girls, if I say the true 2 weeks they will be texting me all the time during the two weeks to meet again which I don't want since I will be texting like 40 girls during my trip, too much texting I will go crazy. Or do you suggest to lie and tell them I'm staying longer for 1 or 2 months.
By the way, I convince my fiance to let me go to Phils with my friends. I actually use a jealousy argument I had with her (made it worse, she caught the bait because she was drunk that time), and the next day I was ready to break up with her. My condition to stay with her was that she needs to prove me that she is not a jealous person anymore and let me go on this trip. She accepted even thought she kind of knows there is a good chance I will be sleeping around. Well, her fault for getting jealous when she was drunk.[/QUOTE]A man of real character here.
Run, man run!
I would never feel it is ok for my "date" to expect me to pony up a free meal for 3 freeloaders. I would be gone so fast, the girls would only see a blur.
Very little chance that will end up getting you laid.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;1576988] what do you say to them when they ask you: How long are you staying in Phils?
[/QUOTE]I usually tell them I am in Phils for however long I am there for but that it is a work trip so can't see them every day. However I do have free time to meet up with them. And then the reason that I cannot see them the following day is work commitments. But then all the girls who meet me know it is just for fun anyway. Others I tell them the truth which is that I have a gf but just want to meet up for short term fun.
I use the BS meter here and tekk them mostly I don't know as I have a loose scheduel and travels around. I get it saying you only stay here short time gets the girl more eeger to drop their panties fast.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;1576988]Good advice Skogis, I'm taking notes since I'm planning to go on multiple dates everyday on my next trip.
My plan is to have 4 or 5 dates set-up everyday, [/QUOTE]In my opinion way too many. You'll spent hours in traffic as well as the girls. You'll need (probably) a little time for yourself. And, if you have a date with a girl at 5 pm like I had today, I considered myself lucky when she arrived at 5. 45 pm. Late just 45 minutes, that's quite good. For Pinay standards.
IMHO, forget about 4 or even 5 dates a day. You must meet the first girl at 6 am to start with that schedule.
Anyway, good luck! Have fun!
[QUOTE=SteveNash;1576988]
My plan is to have 4 or 5 dates set-up everyday, so if I don't get laid in one date I will go on another date couple of hours later, but if I get laid I will either cancel the next date or just meet them for a short period of time to get to know them better and make a second date if I like them. My plan is everyday to get laid twice a day (one for lunch and one for staying the night), [/QUOTE]How do you define a date? Will you be dashing all over metro Manila? She's going to be late; how long are you prepared to wait at the date location? You can do 4 or 5 dates each day by simply arranging each date to be at your residence. If she doesn't want to meet at your place then you can conclude she's not genuine in her desire to fuck you. Your choice whether it be in your room (this I strongly advise) or in a coffeeshop / resto / bar very near your residence (less desirable). If you've communicated correctly every girl will know that the purpose of the meeting is to fuck and not to enjoy coffee-time chit-chat and mall wandering. Assuming come-to-fuck is the case why then add a time-consuming obstacle that adds no value to your enjoyment and could quite possibly derail it?
Much like Skogis I typically run a three-a-day routine on the days my main girl is working - on her days off my entire day is hers. The night-shift call-centre agent or college student arrives in the morning (almost always late), we chat for up to 1 hour, then it's to bed. I want her out no later than 1 because the next is due to arrive at 2:30 and I have to clean up the place. The afternoon girl will also be late. Again, we chat for a while, then it's to bed. I want her out by 7 pm because the nighttime girl is coming at 8:30. If Pinays were more attentive to time and the transport infrastructure was decent I could squeeze in another 1 or 2 a day, but after a few failed attempts to get everyone to follow my timeline I realised I was driving myself loopy. It's like herding kittens; it never works. Keep this in mind: I'm going nowhere outside my condo and I find 3-a-day to be a busy yet manageable day.
[QUOTE=Ekspat;1577153]In my opinion way too many. You'll spent hours in traffic as well as the girls. You'll need (probably) a little time for yourself. And, if you have a date with a girl at 5 pm like I had today, I considered myself lucky when she arrived at 5. 45 pm. Late just 45 minutes, that's quite good. For Pinay standards.
![/QUOTE]You were extremely lucky Eks that your girl arrived "only" 45 minutes late.
Today (Friday in Manila) was an horrific traffic day. I was planning dinner at the seafood restaurants on Macapagal Blvd (near MOA) today. We left home (in Ortigas) at 4. 45 pm and arrived at 7. 50 pm. I kid you not. I was ready to pull the pin and go home after 70 or so minutes but we were stuck in EDSA traffic with no way to get out of it.
So I agree with Hutsori. Make sure it is at a single venue. Those who talk about lining up multiple dates that involves ANY travel need to factor in the multiple variables including the day of the week and the time of day. Skogis can clearly do it; FF is also a pro. If you are a newbie, forget it.
When reading his post I get a feeling he wants to have a safety net if some girls don't show or are not to his attraction. If they are not to his attraction he obviously did not do a good pre screening job, hehe. So even if 4/5 girls would be perfect it is almost not doable due to the various things which comes into play as other BM's meantioning.
In my case I tried a couple of trips ago (7 days stay, arrived late and left early so actually only 5 hole days) doing 3 a day as a small project on my own and even if I probably could have made it work it affected my alonetime to much (unwinding, evidence removals, take a mallwalk (feeling in the beauties to get a dirty mind for next session, showers, drinks and foods). I came out with 17/18 sessions incl one girl I did have over 3 times (as she was very horny and good at what I was interested in and lived close so could arriive on short notice). In short, even if some days i will have 3(if they live or work in Makati area or happens to work as callcentergirls in Spikes, which is the next building from where i mostly stay), i will go for 2 in average a day. Then i get more time for baby monetoring and alone time.
No, let the girls do the travelling job and you meet them outside hotel or only 50 steps outside at the most (works fine where I mostly live, almost sharing entrance with a huge mall). This is better for heartrate and more comfy for you. If we can try be a bit cheeky here, the girls need you more than you need them:-)
I didn't know girls in Manila were always late, in my experience all the girls I met in Manila were either on time or came early to the time we set-up to meet, in fact I was the one who was always late (even thought we meet one or two blocks from my hotel). This is the reason why I want to set-up 4 dates a day, (two in the morning and two at night) if the first one is very late and my second date is on the way I will tell her that she is too late and that I have work to do, I will still meet her maybe eat some breakfast but if she is late she will pass from my first option to my second option (so I will meet her another day), I hate unpunctual people (even though I'm one of them).
So then I will meet my second date, like Skogis said the second date is just as my safety net, the same way if I don't find her attractive, I will still see her but make the date short so I can see my second date. Hopefully this won't happen since I will be doing a screening job in skype, but it can still happen, or if she is not a DTF type of girl I will just make the date short.
If we like eachother and I want to spend time with her I will cancel my second date and make it for the next day, I done this before and so far they seem OK with it, if she gets [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and doesn't want to meet that's her loss, I will call the next girl. People might think I'm mean by doing this but I don't see it that way because I will still meet her the next day as my first option, treat her good and give her a compensation afterwards, is not like I don't give a shit about her.
Which comes to my second point, I don't like meeting woman for 1 or 2 hours only just to fuck her, I like the whole process of getting to know her, make her attracted to me, if it happens fast great if it doesn't is OK as long as we end in bed at the end of the day, 4-5 hours with each girl that's what I like. The same process will happen at night with the difference that she will spend the night at my place. So that's why I said I will plan 4 dates per day, but at the end it will be only 2 dates per day.
The meeting place of the dates will be close to where I'm staying within a couple of blocks, most likely a mall, coffee shop, or bar when is at night. Sometimes I will meet her at my place so she can cook for me (I done this before and is possible).
So basically my dates will be around 5 hours (2 hours getting to know eachother and 3 hours in bed), of course this is not set in stone, I can adapt and change it on the flow, but my goal is to hook up with 2 girls per day, BUT if I find a great girl (great in looks and great in personality) I might stay with her the whole day and she will be the prime candidate to de-throne the girl I'm planning to take to Boracay which is someone similar in looks and personality that I'm communicating now.
You must live in a sex prison Mr. Nash. You're making your trip very anal retentive and ovary complicated.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;1577760]...in my experience all the girls I met in Manila were either on time or came early to the time we set-up to meet...
[/QUOTE]Where is this Manila you speak of? Switzerland?
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1578194]Where is this Manila you speak of? Switzerland?[/QUOTE]Huts it depends. On the one hand traffic is an absolute *BAITCH* in Manila leading to unintended delays even with the best of intentions. If your talking about a poorer girl coming from some distance lateness is common. If you're talking about an employed girl or student living nearby in Makati / Mandaluyong / Guadelupe etc then timeliness is far more likely. The newer generation classier girls do seem a bit better about it (generalisation). My 22 yr old spinner salon manager text's me yesterday "What time I come. I'm always late". She arrived 30 min's early. But I do agree to warn newbie to factor in delays.
AV.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1578397]Huts it depends. On the one hand traffic is an absolute *BAITCH* in Manila leading to unintended delays even with the best of intentions. If your talking about a poorer girl coming from some distance lateness is common. If you're talking about an employed girl or student living nearby in Makati / Mandaluyong / Guadelupe etc then timeliness is far more likely. The newer generation classier girls do seem a bit better about it (generalisation). My 22 yr old spinner salon manager text's me yesterday "What time I come. I'm always late". She arrived 30 min's early. But I do agree to warn newbie to factor in delays.
AV.[/QUOTE]Last week, I was with a colleague for a meeting in Makati in the Greenbelt 1 area. Once the meeting was over, I called for an Uber car, amd had the driver drop me at the Fairmont before taking her back to her house in Makati. She
texted me that it had taken her an hour and ten minutes to drive the 5. 2 kms. Back to her house. It's not possible to plan with any accuracy for the insanity of Manila traffic. In my view, it's one of the biggest factors in making this one of the world's least livable cities.
GE.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1578397]. . ., SNIP > . . If you're talking about a poorer girl coming from some distance lateness is common. If you're talking about an employed girl or student living nearby in Makati / Mandaluyong / Guadelupe etc then timeliness is far more likely. The newer generation classier girls do seem a bit better about it (generalisation). [/QUOTE]There has been a bit of a blitz about Filipino time on the media lately (especially radio and TV).
I have noticed that the times announced on the radio lately correspond to my watch / CP time instead of the 5 to 10 minute advance time that used to be the norm.
Some prominent businessmen have also stated publicly how embarrassed they often are about late colleagues when dealing with foreigners (who are punctual) and there is a general urging of pinoys to be on time.
As AV says, the newer generation classier girls are learning the "new" rules, but the poorer and usually lesser educated girl coming from a longer distance is in the hands of the traffic gods and anything can happen.
Back from 3 weeks holiday to Manila, BKK, Laos and Pattaya. Stayed at best Western La Corona in Ermita. Ermita is a shit hole in my experience except convenient location for pickup from La cafe. Stayed 5 nights. First night had 2 beautiful late twenties single moms from La Cafe. Amazing experience, I was surprised that Manila girls can hold a great conversation inside and outside bed. Being used to Thailand scene for years it came as a pleasant surprise. Second night had a 19 year old from craiglist. Ok experience nothing great except she was really petite and inexperienced. Third night had 2 ladies from la Cafe again. Wonderful and inexpensive experience. 4th night repeated the girls from 1st night for an amazing encounter again. Last night was just brilliant. I wish I met her earlier in the trip. Rocked up to la cafe a bit early around 7-8 pm. Met this young 24 years old sitting quietlyin a corner. Struck a conversation and she turned out to be a cashier from some place in mall of Asia. Bought her a beer. She started to loosen up and then ordered some food. Another beer and she was a bit tipsy and wanted to go back to my hotel. I wanted to stay a bit longer in the bar as it was still very early but she was showing all signs of genuinely being really horny. She stated that she has not had sex for a long time which I was reluctant to beleived. She said she only comes to this bar on rare occasions and sometimes just to sit and relax and listen to music as she enjoys the environment. So back to hotel and she was the wildest girl I ever met in a bar. She fucked my brains out in the first round. A truly amazing experience. We napped for a while and then ready for round which I cannot belive that I had sex with her without protection. Have to do all the tests now as I am worried but what an amazing experience. Can never forget her. Got her number paid her around 2500 pesos. She was happy as she was only expecting 2000. If I ever return to Manila she is going to be the reason.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1578481]Last week, I was with a colleague for a meeting in Makati in the Greenbelt 1 area. Once the meeting was over, I called for an Uber car, amd had the driver drop me at the Fairmont before taking her back to her house in Makati. She texted me that it had taken her an hour and ten minutes to drive the 5. 2 kms. Back to her house. It's not possible to plan with any accuracy for the insanity of Manila traffic. In my view, it's one of the biggest factors in making this one of the world's least livable cities.[/QUOTE]Fully agree GE, the new president has cleaned up the look of the place & is doing his best to get people off Pinoy time but the flooding, the pollution & the traffic chaos just gets worse & worse. I refuse to go there any more except transit to NAIA.
AV.
I picked up a young girl in LA Cafe. She was a student from another island, ran out of money and just started at LA Cafe the first day. She did not even know the rates that other girls were charging.
The very nice thing about Pinays is they speak good English. I find Pinays nice, sweet, gentle and connect with them much better than girls in China, Thailand, Vietnam, or Cambodia, with whom I could not communicate even the simplest things. Relationships without the simplest communication, even with Miss Universe, can be very shallow and would usually become boring quickly.
She stayed with me a few days, showing me around Manila. We went out to eat, shopping hand in hand like any couple in love. She did turn a few heads on the streets. The vendors kept complimenting that I had a sexy, good-looking GF. She's not as pretty as the girls in China. Her body was lean and tight with a very tight pussy. She reminded me of a college GF years ago.
This young student did like sex a lot. She really turned me on. We were screwing again and again. After the first fuck, I got so turned on with this young girl that I fucked her bareback. She was 1 of the only 2 pro girls that I had bareback sex with my whole life. I did not do anything kinky with her, just straight sex. But she did give me a very good GFE. Lucky I did not catch anything. My dick is still hanging here. Hehe. I was afraid she may get pregnant. Hope she knows what she's doing. I have her tel and email. I was calling her a few months ago when they were hit with the typhoon and flood.
After fucking this young LA Cafe student for a few days, I found out that there are younger and much better-looking girls in the casas spread out in Ermita and Makati, catering to the locals. I was beside myself looking at some of the prettiest and sweetest-looking young girls in the casas. They make LA Cafe girls look like hardened old hos. I picked up a young girl. She looked like a movie star. We went out to dinner and everyone was looking at her. Had sex with her many times, sleeping embracing her perfectly sexy body with her beautiful soft skin all night.
Manila is my favorite place for girls.
[QUOTE=LiveLifeGuy;1578986]Back from 3 weeks holiday to Manila, BKK, Laos and Pattaya. Stayed at best Western La Corona in Ermita. Ermita is a shit hole in my experience except convenient location for pickup from La cafe. Stayed 5 nights. First night had 2 beautiful late twenties single moms from La Cafe. Amazing experience, I was surprised that Manila girls can hold a great conversation inside and outside bed. Being used to Thailand scene for years it came as a pleasant surprise. Second night had a 19 year old from craiglist. Ok experience nothing great except she was really petite and inexperienced. Third night had 2 ladies from la Cafe again. Wonderful and inexpensive experience. 4th night repeated the girls from 1st night for an amazing encounter again. Last night was just brilliant. I wish I met her earlier in the trip. Rocked up to la cafe a bit early around 7-8 pm. Met this young 24 years old sitting quietlyin a corner. Struck a conversation and she turned out to be a cashier from some place in mall of Asia. Bought her a beer. She started to loosen up and then ordered some food. Another beer and she was a bit tipsy and wanted to go back to my hotel. I wanted to stay a bit longer in the bar as it was still very early but she was showing all signs of genuinely being really horny. She stated that she has not had sex for a long time which I was reluctant to beleived. She said she only comes to this bar on rare occasions and sometimes just to sit and relax and listen to music as she enjoys the environment. So back to hotel and she was the wildest girl I ever met in a bar. She fucked my brains out in the first round. A truly amazing experience. We napped for a while and then ready for round which I cannot belive that I had sex with her without protection. Have to do all the tests now as I am worried but what an amazing experience. Can never forget her. Got her number paid her around 2500 pesos. She was happy as she was only expecting 2000. If I ever return to Manila she is going to be the reason.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1579371]Manila is my favorite place for girls.[/QUOTE]Right on, Luke. Nice report. I personally prefer Cebu but I am equally certain there are gems all over these 7000 islands; many more to come as we age.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1579371]After fucking this young LA Cafe student for a few days, I found out that there are younger and much better-looking girls in the casas spread out in Ermita and Makati, catering to the locals. I was beside myself looking at some of the prettiest and sweetest-looking young girls in the casas. They make LA Cafe girls look like hardened old hos. I picked up a young girl. She looked like a movie star. We went out to dinner and everyone was looking at her. Had sex with her many times, sleeping embracing her perfectly sexy body with her beautiful soft skin all night.
[/QUOTE]Where are these "casas" in Ermita? And how do they work?
Mick
LUKE this is your FATHER.
Where are these casas and what are the rates?
PP.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1579801]LUKE this is your FATHER.
Where are these casas and what are the rates?
PP.[/QUOTE]To Pinaypounder.
So The Lurker is your son I feel sorry for you we been reading the same post over and over again without any useful Information, the lurker got too much damn time in his life so sad.
Fast eddie 48.
If Pinay Pounder is my father, he must be pushing 100 years old. Hehe.
I PM him a few better casas in Makati and Ermita. Hopefully he will find some good-looking young girls who would completely satisfy his lust.
Pinays sure make me very horny with their tight, lean, petite bodies, their nice, sweet, gentle personalities, and they are just a lot cuter, sexier, far more desirable and fuckable speaking English.
I fucked 2 LA Cafe girls 7 times within 12 hours arriving in Manila and checking into the hotel at 2 PM. LA Cafe is very convenient that you can always find some fuckable girls there any time of the day.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1579801]LUKE this is your FATHER.
Where are these casas and what are the rates?
PP.[/QUOTE]
Fart's father must have been the dumbest $$$HOLE on earth.
[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1579808]To Pinaypounder.
So The Lurker is your son I feel sorry for you we been reading the same post over and over again without any useful Information, the lurker got too much damn time in his life so sad.
Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mickthemanus;1579785]Where are these "casas" in Ermita? And how do they work?
Mick[/QUOTE]Mick I checked out the casa's years ago in Manila. These are places where the locals go for a grind at 200 PHP a time. What I saw didn't impress me one bit. Its only one rung above gritty street walkers as far as I could see. Think grubby mattress with no sheet in a hot dirty room in a dangerous (to tourists) neighbourhood. The girls I saw looked anything but happy & the reports I got from guys about the service was not thrilling. These reports of wondrously beautiful girls in casa's I would take with a grain of salt. By all means ask a Taxi driver in Ermita to take you to 'girls' and report back. I'd love to know if there is a hidden oasis we all didn't know about. Through social contacts I did know one or two higher end girls who worked out of relatively classy apartments in Pasay but these girls, despite their undeniable looks, just radiated hatred & loathing for what they were doing.
Let us know how you get on?
Cheers.
AV.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1579866]Mick I checked out the casa's years ago in Manila. These reports of wondrously beautiful girls in casa's I would take with a grain of salt. By all means ask a Taxi driver in Ermita to take you to 'girls' and report back. I'd love to know if there is a hidden oasis we all didn't know about.
Cheers.
AV.[/QUOTE]On my very first visit to Manila, back in early 80's, I arrived jet lagged and horny. I was staying in Manila hotel.
Found a taxi driver and asked him to take me to a casa. Found a good array of ladies, can't recall the price. A sweetie stayed with me for the night. Next day, repeat. The ladies were fine fine fine. Next day I discovered the original Firehouse and Ermita.
However as with many things over past 30 years, price has no doubt gone up, and we all know what happens to quality.
Despite being old enough to be a few peoples father, I'm 100% sure I have no male offspring on this or any other boards. LOL.
[QUOTE=LiveLifeGuy;1578986]Back from 3 weeks holiday to Manila, BKK, Laos and Pattaya. Stayed at best Western La Corona in Ermita. Ermita is a shit hole in my experience except convenient location for pickup from La cafe. Stayed 5 nights. First night had 2 beautiful late twenties single moms from La Cafe. Amazing experience, I was surprised that Manila girls can hold a great conversation inside and outside bed. Being used to Thailand scene for years it came as a pleasant surprise. Second night had a 19 year old from craiglist. Ok experience nothing great except she was really petite and inexperienced. Third night had 2 ladies from la Cafe again. Wonderful and inexpensive experience. 4th night repeated the girls from 1st night for an amazing encounter again. Last night was just brilliant. I wish I met her earlier in the trip. Rocked up to la cafe a bit early around 7-8 pm. Met this young 24 years old sitting quietlyin a corner. Struck a conversation and she turned out to be a cashier from some place in mall of Asia. Bought her a beer. She started to loosen up and then ordered some food. Another beer and she was a bit tipsy and wanted to go back to my hotel. I wanted to stay a bit longer in the bar as it was still very early but she was showing all signs of genuinely being really horny. She stated that she has not had sex for a long time which I was reluctant to beleived. She said she only comes to this bar on rare occasions and sometimes just to sit and relax and listen to music as she enjoys the environment. So back to hotel and she was the wildest girl I ever met in a bar. She fucked my brains out in the first round. A truly amazing experience. We napped for a while and then ready for round which I cannot belive that I had sex with her without protection. Have to do all the tests now as I am worried but what an amazing experience. Can never forget her. Got her number paid her around 2500 pesos. She was happy as she was only expecting 2000. If I ever return to Manila she is going to be the reason.[/QUOTE]Hey, nice report. I have found some of my greatest treasures in LA Cafe also. Yes there are a lot of pros there, but if you are lucky and patient, you can obviously find some great new ones non professionals in there, but I don't find one there every night, that's for sure. Got to be little lucky also.
This link might help those of you who are into the high-end club scene in Manila, are aged 25-ish and upwards, dress well and for whom the budget is not a big deal.
[URL]http://www.expatch.org/2013/08/15/the-best-of-manilas-high-end-clubbing-scene/[/URL]
I'm so damn tempted maan.
I get updates automatically from this thread cause I am considering it for my next trip but still can't make my darn mind. One part of me says just return to Colombia, Cuba or Moldova again where I am familiar with the layout of the land and game.
Yet another part of me says "of to new horizons" to Fellipines, Dominican Republic or Ukraine. Yes Ukraine.
Another source that I use for info on Phillipines is a YouTube channel from a guy who moved there and blogs about everything a monger needs to know.
Keep up the good work fellas.
Forgot to add "Madagascar" to the "of to new horizons" list.
BTW, can anyone recommend a good source for info especially like a YouTube channel?
[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1580050]
Yet another part of me says "of to new horizons" to Fellipines, Dominican Republic or Ukraine. Yes Ukraine.
Keep up the good work fellas.[/QUOTE]
These casas are houses in residential areas, large rooms with tile floors, flat lighting and a bunch of old, worn chairs, benches, couches against the walls. There was no mention of bedrooms for sex on the premises. Everything was take out only.
Girls are young, fresh, clean, good-looking, wearing casual street clothes with little make up, just like girls next door. Their natural and youthful beauty was very attractive to me.
Went to one in Ermita on UN Ave. , within 2 blocks of the US Embassy. It was around 6 PM and had about 20 girls, most were smaller, skinny and not so hot, but they would still look much better than the old girls in LA Cafe or in AC bars . I was told more would arrive later. There was no client while I was there.
Went to one in Makati. The room was a bigger but plain with about 40 girls. Some were watching TV, some chatting with their friends, like they were at home. There was only 1 other Pinoys shopping, chatting with the girls. He was moving around talking to the girls, but he was not touching any one. So I kept my hands off them.
I had my eyes on a few stunners, tall, lean, pretty with nice skin. Quickly decided to take a sweet, young, tall, skinny, light-skinned girl before the Pinoy had a chance. Her pretty face with full, pink, pouty lips reminded me of the young Natasha Kinsky in the movies "Tess. " She was that pretty. And she did not disappoint in the nude. Her body was slim, sexy, supple, fully-developed with soft, unblemished skin; her boobs were round, perky see sized at least. The owner wanted 4000 PHP for all night. My local friend bargained it down to 3000.
She was quiet, a little shy. I was very impressed with her, so took her to a fancy seafood restaurant on Adriatico where seafood was sold by the 100 grams. She did not eat much. I convinced her to drink half a beer. I should have asked her what and where she wanted to eat and given her a treat.
Would have been much more fun if the casas had decorated their places, play a little music, had the girls in bikinis doing a little dancing and flirting, serving drinks to clients. Would be nice to sit around drinking a few beers, watching the girls before making your selection like casas in Malaysia, Indonesia and South America. But Manila's casas are very plain and basic operations. I suggest the bros bring along cold beers and invite the owners and the girls to party. It may be fun.
The casas all look very bare and basic, like temporary quarters. I suspect they get raided frequently and may have to move around.
What is the fair donation for an all nighter from 2000 till 1100 next day with a natural beauty non-pro young and fresh like students?? Remember these are women who don't frequent the pro bars. So I'll have to see them out from colleges, beachs or malls. Any suggestion?
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1580053]These casas are houses in residential areas, large rooms with tile floors, flat lighting and a bunch of old, worn chairs, benches, couches against the walls. There was no mention of bedrooms for sex on the premises. Everything was take out only.
Girls are young, fresh, clean, good-looking, wearing casual street clothes with little make up, just like girls next door. Their natural and youthful beauty was very attractive to me.
Went to one in Ermita on UN Ave. , within 2 blocks of the US Embassy. It was around 6 PM and had about 20 girls, most were smaller, skinny and not so hot, but they would still look much better than the old girls in LA Cafe or in AC bars . I was told more would arrive later. There was no client while I was there.
Went to one in Makati. The room was a bigger but plain with about 40 girls. Some were watching TV, some chatting with their friends, like they were at home. There was only 1 other Pinoys shopping, chatting with the girls. He was moving around talking to the girls, but he was not touching any one. So I kept my hands off them.
I had my eyes on a few stunners, tall, lean, pretty with nice skin. Quickly decided to take a sweet, young, tall, skinny, light-skinned girl before the Pinoy had a chance. Her pretty face with full, pink, pouty lips reminded me of the young Natasha Kinsky in the movies "Tess. " She was that pretty. And she did not disappoint in the nude. Her body was slim, sexy, supple, fully-developed with soft, unblemished skin; her boobs were round, perky see sized at least. The owner wanted 4000 PHP for all night. My local friend bargained it down to 3000.
She was quiet, a little shy. I was very impressed with her, so took her to a fancy seafood restaurant on Adriatico where seafood was sold by the 100 grams. She did not eat much. I convinced her to drink half a beer. I should have asked her what and where she wanted to eat and given her a treat.
Would have been much more fun if the casas had decorated their places, play a little music, had the girls in bikinis doing a little dancing and flirting, serving drinks to clients. Would be nice to sit around drinking a few beers, watching the girls before making your selection like casas in Malaysia, Indonesia and South America. But Manila's casas are very plain and basic operations. I suggest the bros bring along cold beers and invite the owners and the girls to party. It may be fun.
The casas all look very bare and basic, like temporary quarters. I suspect they get raided frequently and may have to move around.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1580070]What is the fair donation for an all nighter from 2000 till 1100 next day with a natural beauty non-pro young and fresh like students?? Remember these are women who don't frequent the pro bars. So I'll have to see them out from colleges, beachs or malls. Any suggestion?[/QUOTE]If she's a student I should think start her off with donations of a blue note (1,000), don't worry she'll get her hooks into you if you see her more than once LOL!
AV.
[quote=lukeskywalker;1580053]these casas are houses in residential areas, large rooms with tile floors, flat lighting and a bunch of old, worn chairs, benches, couches against the walls. there was no mention of bedrooms for sex on the premises. everything was take out only.
girls are young, fresh, clean, good-looking, wearing casual street clothes with little make up, just like girls next door. their natural and youthful beauty was very attractive to me.
went to one in ermita on un ave. , within 2 blocks of the us embassy. it was around 6 pm and had about 20 girls, most were smaller, skinny and not so hot, but they would still look much better than the old girls in la cafe or in ac bars . i was told more would arrive later. there was no client while i was there.
went to one in makati. the room was a bigger but plain with about 40 girls. some were watching tv, some chatting with their friends, like they were at home. there was only 1 other pinoys shopping, chatting with the girls. he was moving around talking to the girls, but he was not touching any one. so i kept my hands off them.
i had my eyes on a few stunners, tall, lean, pretty with nice skin. quickly decided to take a sweet, young, tall, skinny, light-skinned girl before the pinoy had a chance. her pretty face with full, pink, pouty lips reminded me of the young natasha kinsky in the movies "tess. " she was that pretty. and she did not disappoint in the nude. her body was slim, sexy, supple, fully-developed with soft, unblemished skin; her boobs were round, perky see sized at least. the owner wanted 4000 php for all night. my local friend bargained it down to 3000.
she was quiet, a little shy. i was very impressed with her, so took her to a fancy seafood restaurant on adriatico where seafood was sold by the 100 grams. she did not eat much. i convinced her to drink half a beer. i should have asked her what and where she wanted to eat and given her a treat.
would have been much more fun if the casas had decorated their places, play a little music, had the girls in bikinis doing a little dancing and flirting, serving drinks to clients. would be nice to sit around drinking a few beers, watching the girls before making your selection like casas in malaysia, indonesia and south america. but manila's casas are very plain and basic operations. i suggest the bros bring along cold beers and invite the owners and the girls to party. it may be fun.
the casas all look very bare and basic, like temporary quarters. i suspect they get raided frequently and may have to move around.[/quote]i have been to a couple of casa in ermita area. one was on del pilar. it was funny how i knew the place. i was buying some mangoes from a sidewalk seller and she asked if i want girls. normally i ignore them but this time i started asking her things like are they pretty and young etc. she called a lady and asked her to take me there. the lady took me to some side street to a small shack of a house. since it was morning girls were half asleep. there were 8 girls. i chose one who was pretty with nice boobs. my impression was these were definitely trafficked girls from the provinces. certainly a chain of pimps involved since all of them look fresh, **** with some of them no i. the.
looks like they are mainly for the local rich people who treasure young girls. the amount i paid was 2500 till next morning.
i had to take this girl shopping to buy a nice outfit and a nice purse to take her to dinner. her jeans and blouse and handbag looked like she was a panhandler. obviously very poor. i wish these pimps take better care of these girls.
she was ok in bed in the sense i could do anything i wanted and any number times. i treated her nicely and she was very appreciative. i did not talk to her about the circumstances that forced her into prostitution as i did not wanted to be the righteous person.
these casas move around quickly because local people inform the police.
I tried Harrison and Robertson malls today based on this thread. Harrison was worse than I expected. Looks like a ghetto slum mall out of the worst part of the US. What's worse I didn't see a single girl who gave a hint of working or pimping. Robertson was much better and I saw a few pretty women but 99 percent were either with family or boyfriends. Walked all up and down the malls without luck. Did meet a Korean tourist in the Starbucks at Robertson though and plan to meet at my hotel tomorrow believe it or not. She's older than I usually go for but oh well. Anyway what am I missing in these malls?
Thanks
The young student from LA Cafe was happy with 1500 PHP per day, plus a promise for tip. That was 24-hour days. She stayed with me as a GF and tour guide for a few days.
Casas in Ermita wanted 2000 PHP all night, probably would do 1500 quickly.
Casas in Makati had much better-looking girls, started out with 4000 PHP all night, but after 5 minutes, took 3000.
For freelancing students, I think 1000 all night plus meals, booze and entertainment is about fair. Give them DF kisses and a big tip (not the little one hanging in your crotch) when they leave.
[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1580070]What is the fair donation for an all nighter from 2000 till 1100 next day with a natural beauty non-pro young and fresh like students?? Remember these are women who don't frequent the pro bars. So I'll have to see them out from colleges, beachs or malls. Any suggestion?[/QUOTE]
The casa girls I took were all polished city girls, 21-22 YO, polite, soft and well-spoken in English, nice, clean, well-groomed, good-smelling, nice hair, nice manicure, pedicure etc. I had good chemistry with girls in the Phil because of their soft, sweet and gentle expressions in English.
The few girls I pulled from LA Cafe were also very nice and gentle. One clearly enjoyed sex and was resting after the first session. When I got on top of her trying to penetrate her again, she said in a very nice and gentle way, that she was sore, and needed a break. Her gentleness turned me on so much that I fucked her 4 times within the first 3 hours after landing in Manila, without needs for medicinal aids.... Hehe. She was that sexy. I paid her 1200 PHP as agreed. She asked for a tip but I declined. No problemos.
The young student from LA Cafe was horny; her pussy was always moist. She actually initiated sex most of the time. After the first fuck with condom, she immediately blew me bareback, then got on top of me and pumped away... She was moaning, sighing, talking dirty and sexy as I plunged into her tight pussy...
I ran across quite a few Pinays who wanted rest between sex. In contrast, most LT girls in China would want to fuck again and again, one right after the other.
[QUOTE=Sammon;1580118]I have been to a couple of casa in Ermita area. One was on Del Pilar. It was funny how I knew the place. I was buying some mangoes from
I had to take this girl shopping to buy a nice outfit and a nice purse to take her to dinner. Her jeans and blouse and handbag looked like she was a panhandler. Obviously very poor. I wish these pimps take better care of these girls.
These casas move around quickly because local people inform the police.[/QUOTE]
Amavida and LukeSkyWalker.
Are you all saying a freelance or regular student will be happy with 1000 plus food and drinks for 24 hrs?
I like to "trust but verify" so are these girls from the country side who live in shitty government dorms while attending college in the big city?? I ran across this scenario in a province in Cuba and loved it!
Can someone else confirm or deny what has been said based from your own experience or indirectly extrapolate?
You should be able to find, via DIA, Craigslist, casas etc. , many nice, young, sweet and sexy girls in Manilla who would do all nighters for 1000 pesos, unlimited sex in any style your heart desires.
This is very good deal considering only few girls in Southern China's ghettos would want to do all night for about US $150. Then they would stipulate that all night means maximum 3 fucks, time to sleep, and leaving at 6 AM. I just hate those ornery girls.
If you have not been to the Phil, I urge you to try it. You may find exceptionally good and sexy experiences compared to other countries. I always got GFE, bareback BJ, bare back sex ect. Pinays are very willing partners in sex.
I am not into kinky sex like anal or toys and games ect. So don't know about PSE. Some of those young girls did show a lot of pleasures with verbal, facial, moaning sighing, shrieking expressions.
[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1580267]Amavida and LukeSkyWalker.
Are you all saying a freelance or regular student will be happy with 1000 plus food and drinks for 24 hrs?
I like to "trust but verify" so are these girls from the country side who live in shitty government dorms while attending college in the big city?? I ran across this scenario in a province in Cuba and loved it!
Can someone else confirm or deny what has been said based from your own experience or indirectly extrapolate?[/QUOTE]
[quote=brasilsoccer0;1580267]are you all saying a freelance or regular student will be happy with 1000 plus food and drinks for 24 hrs?
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can someone else confirm or deny what has been said based from your own experience or indirectly extrapolate?[/quote]i can confirm it. some girls, especially those from the province, will even be happy with 500 p a day above and beyond what you spend for food, drinks, etc. think about it this way: the daily wage is about one third of what you would pay them (based on 1 k) and they don't have to actually do any work. they also get to eat well, stay in a comfortable room with air-con and hot water, watch tv and play on the internet whenever they want. in addition, having a foreign "bf" will often elevate their status among their peer group and get them out of doing any chores around their own house or relieve the boredom of staying in a dorm room that's about size of a broom closet.
i also take them shopping and do it one of two ways; if she's independent enough (or if i have 2 girls like i usually do) i'll take them to a market, give them x amount of pesos and cut them loose. i'll go somewhere nearby and have a beer or cup of coffee (they'll usually get better prices on products when they shop at a market without a "porigner" or i'll take them to a mall, set a budget. say 2,000 p. and let them choose what they want.
and btw, you'd be surprised how many girls i've turned loose in a market or mall that'll not only come back with an armload of stuff, but on top that also give me the change too, lol.
This is all I really need: sweet natural girls, GFE, healthy fresh food and the nice beaches and a good location.
Last time I was in Manila, there were no residential houses on UN Avenue within 2 or 3 blocks of the USA Embassy, where I had to go many times.
"These casas are houses in residential areas, large rooms with tile floors, flat lighting and a bunch of old, worn chairs, benches, couches against the walls. Went to one in Ermita on UN Ave., within 2 blocks of the US Embassy."
[QUOTE=PukiMonster;1580374]Last time I was in Manila, there were no residential houses on UN Avenue within 2 or 3 blocks of the USA Embassy, where I had to go many times.
"These casas are houses in residential areas, large rooms with tile floors, flat lighting and a bunch of old, worn chairs, benches, couches against the walls. Went to one in Ermita on UN Ave. , within 2 blocks of the US Embassy."[/QUOTE]I also know of no houses on that stretch of UN. Been down that street I dunno how many times. Its all commercial there.
The one casa on UN ave is 1 block East and half a block North of the US Embassy.
It's on the ground floor of a multilple-story apartment building, not tin-roof shanties.
There are no stores or commercial / industrial buildings in that area. The casa occupy the first floor with young girls lounging on sofas. For all intent and purposes, it is a residential unit.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1580485]The one casa on UN ave is 1 block East and half a block North of the US Embassy.
It's on the ground floor of a multilple-story apartment building, not tin-roof shanties.
There are no stores or commercial / industrial buildings in that area. The casa occupy the first floor with young girls lounging on sofas. For all intent and purposes, it is a residential unit.[/QUOTE]One block east is Alhambra St. If it's north of UN Ave it should be easy enough to find as Alhambra ends one block down from there at Kalaw Ave.
I PM you the address and phone number of the place.
More accurately it's on United Nations Ave. , in the middle of the block, half block North of the US Embassy and half a block East of Alhambra.
Perhaps you can find other casas with better-looking girls for us...
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1580547]One block east is Alhambra St. If it's north of UN Ave it should be easy enough to find as Alhambra ends one block down from there at Kalaw Ave.[/QUOTE]
Anyone seen her in Manila. Perhaps MBC or Amazonia? Was watching a youtube video of AC / Manila just to get in the mood for my upcoming trip. Less than three weeks! About shit myself when I saw her. We go back a way. Look up my previous post about her. Would love to hook up with her again if only for one day. Let me know or PM me if you have her number. Thanks bros.
JB.
For beaches you should go to Cebu or Palawan where the water is clean.
With sewage from Manila pouring into the bay for hundreds of year, the bay smells just like a cesspool. I would not recommend dipping your feet in it, lest you may pick up diseases. Yet there are people who fish along the boardwalk and presumably eat their catch.
Further South from New Asia mall and beyond, the water does not smell as bad, but I suspect still carry very high bacteria content. Just go to smaller remote islands and take a few girls along for beach funs.
It's probably cleaner and safer to suck Pinays' pussies and asses than dunking in the bay. Hehehe.
Buy a few compact High-Definition camcorders and record your sessions with the sexy girls writhing, thrashing around in pleasure, grunting, whining, moaning, shrieking, making their sexy noises. Believe me those are the most erotic materials you will ever get your hands on. Hehe.
[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1580357]This is all I really need: sweet natural girls, GFE, healthy fresh food and the nice beaches and a good location.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1580815]For beaches you should go to Cebu or Palawan where the water is clean.
With sewage from Manila pouring into the bay for hundreds of year, the bay smells just like a cesspool. I would not recommend dipping your feet in it, lest you may pick up diseases. Yet there are people who fish along the boardwalk and presumably eat their catch.
Buy a few compact High-Definition camcorders and record your sessions with the sexy girls writhing, thrashing around in pleasure, grunting, whining, moaning, shrieking, making their sexy noises. Believe me those are the most erotic materials you will ever get your hands on. Hehe.[/QUOTE]Is Palawan a good destination? Definitely lots of great diving and beaches there. If there is good punting too, then lead the way.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1579866]Mick I checked out the casa's years ago in Manila. These are places where the locals go for a grind at 200 PHP a time. What I saw didn't impress me one bit. Its only one rung above gritty street walkers as far as I could see. Think grubby mattress with no sheet in a hot dirty room in a dangerous (to tourists) neighbourhood. The girls I saw looked anything but happy & the reports I got from guys about the service was not thrilling. These reports of wondrously beautiful girls in casa's I would take with a grain of salt. By all means ask a Taxi driver in Ermita to take you to 'girls' and report back. I'd love to know if there is a hidden oasis we all didn't know about. Through social contacts I did know one or two higher end girls who worked out of relatively classy apartments in Pasay but these girls, despite their undeniable looks, just radiated hatred & loathing for what they were doing.
Let us know how you get on?
Cheers.
AV.[/QUOTE]Thanks AV! I think I'll stay with the La Cafe girls. In case I go for a search and find a casa I will report back.
Mick
Cebu seems good but Palawan may have a very small selection of girls. You don't want to go to the islands then have to waste lots of time finding companies or finding unsuitable companies or none at all.
It's much better to spend a few days in Manila "interviewing" the girls, to make sure you will have the perfect sex partners on the beach and in the bed. Most of these girls would love a vaction to the island.
[QUOTE=Manny51;1580827]Is Palawan a good destination? Definitely lots of great diving and beaches there. If there is good punting too, then lead the way.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1580547]One block east is Alhambra St. If it's north of UN Ave it should be easy enough to find as Alhambra ends one block down from there at Kalaw Ave.[/QUOTE]You seem to be close. If you verify the availability of such fantastic talent, please share. My experience with casas is more like Amivada's, so would be pleasantly surprised with a gem. Enjoy, AsianRain.
[QUOTE=AsianRain;1581068]You seem to be close. If you verify the availability of such fantastic talent, please share. My experience with casas is more like Amivada's, so would be pleasantly surprised with a gem. Enjoy, AsianRain.[/QUOTE]That's Mr. Skywalker's find; he posted an FR of the place the other day. His cryptic directions at first confused me a bit because UN Avenue is an east-west street and it is already north of the US embassy. To go 1/2 block further north led me to believe his casa was on a side street, such as Alhambra which is a north-south street. His later post clarified things.
I went to Robinson mall in Ermita and the one in Angeles City. Found many nice, clean, sweet, good-looking girls, but they were almost always with families and friends, none would hang around furtively eyeing guys for tricks.
Girls in malls are very attractive, but I don't know how the bros found them.
[QUOTE=BronzeMan;1580199]I tried Harrison and Robertson malls today based on this thread. Harrison was worse than I expected. Looks like a ghetto slum mall out of the worst part of the US. What's worse I didn't see a single girl who gave a hint of working or pimping. Robertson was much better and I saw a few pretty women but 99 percent were either with family or boyfriends. Walked all up and down the malls without luck. Did meet a Korean tourist in the Starbucks at Robertson though and plan to meet at my hotel tomorrow believe it or not. She's older than I usually go for but oh well. Anyway what am I missing in these malls?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
With severely polluted ocean around Quezon, I would be very careful what I eat in the Phil.
There is an outdoor market with a few stalls selling live or fresh seafood near New Asia mall, and a dozen restaurants that cook the food for a fee. But the supplies are small, varieties limited, and prices are ridiculously high, like 5 x to 6 x average price in the US. WTF? The Phil are basically fishermen living on 1000's of islands in the middle of the Pacific. Why the fuck is their seafood so expensive? They pissed me off.
Went to a few fancy seafood restaurant on Ermita and Malate where food are sold by the 100 grams. Restaurants in the Phil are very plain and expensive and the foods are not so good.
Stick to the food courts in malls. They serve large varieties of authentic Filipino foods in clean environment that the locals like. Recommended.
I never like chicken, but 1 afternoon hanging out on hot, humid and dusty Fields Ave in AC with nothing to do, I sat down on wooden stools and grimy tables on their sidewalk among young bar girls and old prostitutes, and tried their broiled chicken over smoky charcoal, washing down with cold San Miguels. Man, their charcoal-broiled chicken is excellent, probably the juiciest and tastiest in the world, in the words of a few perverts, as tasty and juicy as young Pinays' pussies. Hehe.
Did not have time to find their roast pig. I heard their roast pig is also very good.
All this talks make my mouth salivate and my dick rise in a pup tent. Hehe. Like General Douglas McArthur famously said, I SHALL BE BACK!
[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1580357]This is all I really need: sweet natural girls, GFE, healthy fresh food and the nice beaches and a good location.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1581267]With severely polluted ocean around Quezon, I would be very careful what I eat in the Phil.
Stick to the food courts in malls. They serve large varieties of authentic Filipino foods in clean environment that the locals like. Recommended.
Did not have time to find their roast pig. I heard their roast pig is also very good.
All this talks make my mouth salivate and my dick rise in a pup tent. Hehe. Like General Douglas McArthur famously said, I SHALL BE BACK![/QUOTE]+1.
Have not been to AC or Manila yet, but did go to Cebu for a while on a short diving trip. All the best food was at the Ayala mall. Better than anything else locally by a mile, and at good prices. I went there for every meal. Saw ladies on the prowl too. Not a lot, but enough that you notice. But I wasn't hunting myself, so there were probably more than I just didn't spy.
Everyone hangs out at the mall. There is lots of traffic, which is why the food is always fresh. Its the center of social life there, kind of like the way it was in Southern Cal in the 80's. In fact, PI society kind of reminded me of the USA in 1980's. Fun loving, innocent, maybe a little naive. They way everyone is always singing.
Funny, but I too have never had really good seafood in Manila or Cebu City. There must be a few high end places and hotel restaurants to go to, BUT... If you want to have great seafood, I recommend that you just go to the beaches. I have had great tuna steaks cooked just right in Sabang, Port Barton, and El Nido, Palawan. I am pretty sure you can find the same quality in Boracay and other island beach locations.
I have also eaten really well on Baloy Beach in Subic. The Blue Rock and Captain Robb's Barefoot Bar and Restaurant both serve up great, fresh seafood. But this is the Philippines, so instead of having gourmet side dishes to accompany the sushi grade fresh Tuna steaks what you get is macaroni salad and a baked potato. You got to love the PI!
BTW, someone was talking about Palawan. I think Palawan is great. They have some spectacular beaches. BRING YOUR OWN GIRL! And have a great time. Although there are a couple of bars with girls in Puerto Princessa, I think the quality is sketchy and the price (3000 p LT) is high. Besides Puerto Princess is not where you want to stay in Palawan.
A bar girl turned me on to the BBQ chicken stands along Fields in AC too. Outstanding! The chicken had great flavor.
you should post more info about the casas you went to in ermita. del pilar is only 1 block from manila bay board walk. the bros in medellin, colombia did very good jobs listing and updating info on all current clubs, bars and casas.
when i go overseas, i prefer the companies of authentic local girls. last thing i want is to hang out with so-called "more civilized" girls, which may mean they already learned the bad habits and nasty attitudes from us ghetto' hoes. hehe.
in the future i will try to set up dates via dia, craigslist etc. trying to get relationships more personal than with bars' or casas' girls. craigslist has many girls posting very pretty pictures. i got jacked around too many times by fake pics in craigslist in us and china, so i am still skeptical.
if all else fails then i would just go back to the casas or worse, the old, ugly girls of la cafe or p burgos. hehe.
[quote=sammon;1580118]i have been to a couple of casa in ermita area. one was on del pilar. it was funny how i knew the place. i was buying some mangoes from a sidewalk seller and she asked if i want girls. normally i ignore them but this time i started asking her things like are they pretty and young etc. she called a lady and asked her to take me there. the lady took me to some side street to a small shack of a house. since it was morning girls were half asleep. there were 8 girls. i chose one who was pretty with nice boobs. my impression was these were definitely trafficked girls from the provinces. certainly a chain of pimps involved since all of them look fresh, **** with some of them no i. the.
looks like they are mainly for the local rich people who treasure young girls. the amount i paid was 2500 till next morning.
i had to take this girl shopping to buy a nice outfit and a nice purse to take her to dinner. her jeans and blouse and handbag looked like she was a panhandler. obviously very poor. i wish these pimps take better care of these girls.
she was ok in bed in the sense i could do anything i wanted and any number times. i treated her nicely and she was very appreciative. i did not talk to her about the circumstances that forced her into prostitution as i did not wanted to be the righteous person.
these casas move around quickly because local people inform the police.[/quote]
Wow. I thought you have been mongering in the Phil for decades... hehe.
I was screwing around in Manila. I told the hotel driver of my plan to go to AC to check it out. He told me I would be wasting my time in AC. He said AC girls are so crude and ugly, even Manila taxi drivers wold not fuck them.
He was dead right. AC girls are fresh off the rice paddies, some still literally have mud in the toe nails hehe. They are mostly crude country girls who have not learned the feminine arts of making themselves sexy and attractive like urban girls. They are so plain, very unattractive to me...
So that leaves just Manila and Cebu. If I were you, I would put everything in my life on hold and head to the Phil this week to find out how these little Pinays can make you feel sooooooooo sexy at least 10 times a day....hehe. Like our bro Matty Bumpo said, you may want to make arrangements with your favorite Manila girl for a full week of unlimited bare back sex and take her to the beach on Palawan for a whole week of beach and hot sex. Something about the warm and humid tropical climate in combination with sweet, pretty, sexy young girls that make me horny all day, all night...
Or you could just take her on a bus trip to the beach towns North of AC in Pampanga. I heard there are a few very nice beach towns in that area. Pampanga is supposed to be the Phil's culinary center. The food should be very good and cheap. I was very impressed with their broiled chicken in AC. Personally I prefer to tour the islands on bus or car to flying. You get to see real life of the people and interact with them first hand. It's more exciting.
Make a few (secret) high-def recordings of these girls in their thrashing and noisy sex acts in bed. Later when you grow senile and need a few sure-fire boners, just watch a few clips. Works surer and much faster than Viagra, Cialis or Levitra combined. Hehehe. There's nothing more erotic than the sexy sights and sounds of porn movies with young girls and you as the main stars...
[QUOTE=Manny51;1581331]+1.
Have not been to AC or Manila yet, but did go to Cebu for a while on a short diving trip. All the best food was at the Ayala mall. Better than anything else locally by a mile, and at good prices. I went there for every meal. Saw ladies on the prowl too. Not a lot, but enough that you notice. But I wasn't hunting myself, so there were probably more than I just didn't spy.
Everyone hangs out at the mall. There is lots of traffic, which is why the food is always fresh. Its the center of social life there, kind of like the way it was in Southern Cal in the 80's. In fact, PI society kind of reminded me of the USA in 1980's. Fun loving, innocent, maybe a little naive. They way everyone is always singing.[/QUOTE]
Some might know this place on Del Pilar south past LAC. Drove by there yesterday and it was closed down and vacant. Seems there were just too many street people to walk through to get there from LAC. I wouldn't do it even in the middle of the afternoon.
A date I was supposed to meet near Robinsons Malate last evening went belly up, so with a need to get the white out, I decided to check out LA Cafe after a near 1-year hiatus. I was disturbingly shocked at the poor quality of talent as I strolled in at 11:30 on a Saturday night. Forget the under 20 yo niblets of yesteryear. I was struggling to see anything below 25 yo or anything resembling a talent I would want to employ for sex. Walked out after a few rounds and tried G Point and Amazonia. Substantially worse at these venues in terms of age, looks and selection. Walked back to LA Cafe. Nothing changed for the better, so went home alone to watch world cup. Tragic conditions for the formerly reliable circuit. Guess I will treasure my contacts even more. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1581369]I told the hotel driver of my plan to go to AC to check it out. He told me I would be wasting my time in AC. He said AC girls are so crude and ugly, even Manila taxi drivers wold not fuck them.
He was dead right. AC girls are fresh off the rice paddies, some still literally have mud in the toe nails hehe. They are mostly crude country girls who have not learned the feminine arts of making themselves sexy and attractive like urban girls. They are so plain, very unattractive to me...[/QUOTE]If you didn't enjoy your time in AC bars that's fine but this stuff about the AC bar girls you're posting is just bullshit. I couldn't care less if you or your little hate campaign of posters never came back but at least try to be little objective ha?
PS if a taxi driver has a live one on his hands in Manila do you *really* expect him to send business elsewhere? Get real.
AV.
[QUOTE=AsianRain;1581471]A date I was supposed to meet near Robinsons Malate last evening went belly up, so with a need to get the white out, I decided to check out LA Cafe after a near 1-year hiatus. I was disturbingly shocked at the poor quality of talent as I strolled in at 11:30 on a Saturday night. Forget the under 20 yo niblets of yesteryear. I was struggling to see anything below 25 yo or anything resembling a talent I would want to employ for sex. Walked out after a few rounds and tried G Point and Amazonia. Substantially worse at these venues in terms of age, looks and selection. Walked back to LA Cafe. Nothing changed for the better, so went home alone to watch world cup. Tragic conditions for the formerly reliable circuit. Guess I will treasure my contacts even more. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain.[/QUOTE]AR you're probably better qualified than me to judge but over the years I have found LAC to vary in quality / quantity / price wildly. As you previously pointed out always better to find your own pimp'ette if possible anyway.
AV.
Where's the quality in Manila? I see some real stars in the photo gallery from guys like AsianRain and in some porns online. I've also been with some regular pinays in other countries that were very hot. Imagine my surprise then when I came to Manila.
The malls some talked about had no obvious talent. LA / Manila bay cafe and Havana Cafe had girls I wouldn't fuck for free. Maybe if I was hard up, but I'm not. I'm relatively young and fit and I live in Asia.
I hit Air Force One. Hell of a trip from Makati in a cab and the place isn't so great. Staff isn't helpful for first timers, "first class" rooms smell of mold and look cheesy. Girls are okay but they wear uniforms and sit down so you can't tell what you're going to get. No mama to help you choose either. At this price point I expect more.
DIA is easy to use. I could find a girl every day in a few minutes. Meet for coffee or at most a movie and 100% hit rate after that. Problem is these women are mostly average at best and often use fake or doctored pics. I got tired of putting up with banal conversions to get basic sex after, even if it was free. Also have to wait around a lot. Everyone is late. Traffic is crazy and people don't care meeting on time. No one knows where anything is either. Tell a girl to meet you at Greenbelt 3 and she'll ask you where it is. Pay her taxi and she'll meet you in 2 hours, maybe. Don't pay it and she'll take three jeeps and meet you in 3-4.
EDSA complex reminds me of AC. Average girls. Some real dogs. Few to no stars. Cheaper bar fine but still approaching $200 US after a little bar hopping, bar fine and tip. Scam artist taxis and porters waiting outside that nearly fight you if you walk around them to find a metered cab. Tried twice but soon realized I wasn't getting much for my 200. One was on her period. Claimed she didn't know until back in the room. Ha!
Burgos has lots of bars. Some allow action right inside. But those have the worst of the worst doing the deeds. The other bars aren't much better. Lots of fat girls by Asian standards. Tons of stretch marks and baby bellies, scars, hairy legs, dirty feet. Nice enough but most can't hold a conversion despite their ability to speak English. Most didn't even know where Cambodia or Vietnam are or the names of their own church and civic leaders. I don't blame them since they grew up in such poor conditions. I'm mentioning it because guys here have lauded these girls as great conversationalists in comparison with Thai and Khmer girls. I can speak English, Thai and Khmer and I would say the knowledge and ability to converse is lower here than anywhere. Plus a lot of older women who are 25+. Way too old to pay for. Unlimited supply of freebies online.
I thought I found a gem with Kojax. Girls seem relatively younger and more fit. Almost no fatties. Met a gal that looked pretty good in the club. Crazy bar fine of 6500. Money is not a big deal for me but the quality has to be there. Outside realize she's pretty average, not even as good as many of the girls I've seen at Mall of Asia shopping with family. Back in the room start running my hands through her hair and find that she has a killer head lice infection. Lice literally falling out on my white sheets in the New World Makati hotel. She tells me is just "kuto" and that everyone gets it here frequently. Offers to call her friend and prove it when she sees my disbelief. What the fuck?
The prices are just crazy for what's offered. These are mostly slum girls and generally no better than the average girl around town. No manners, no ability to properly dress or apply makeup. One didn't know how to turn on a shower. Little in the way of conversation or sexual skills, though I will say they are usually wet and ready to go on demand. Condoms totally the responsibility of the guy if he wants them, except at massage.
For the price I could get unlimited beauties in Chinese saunas. For 20 percent of the price better looking women in mainland southeast Asia. Short time on Soi 6 with comparable or better quality girls costs equivalent of 1300 pesos.
What's worse is the condition of the place. It's like a giant slum. Aggressive scammers and beggars everywhere. Worst I've seen. At least half of the taxis try to cheat you. Walking around difficult to impossible. Public transport is a disgusting joke. Traffic is unbearable. Airport is worst I've ever seen. Service lacking everywhere, even five star hotels. Shopping sucks too. Get searched everywhere you go. Returned to my $250 a night hotel with a shopping bag only to be stopped and have it looked through. Nothing like being treated as a potential threat by people who make in two months what you are paying per day.
Never experienced anything like this in traveling all through Asia and Latin America.
A week in getting depressed with my visit. Wouldn't return.
Was really hoping to find some firm 18-21 year old gems like I've seen in AsianRains photos but unfortunately no luck. Very sad for me.
I've had some good times way back when and a few good times recently. I honestly wouldn't expect much that late on a Saturday night. Last time I was there they were once again having bands on the 2nd floor. That would be a big plus. Sorry for the cliche / idiom, but the early bird gets the worm.
[QUOTE=AsianRain;1581471]A date I was supposed to meet near Robinsons Malate last evening went belly up, so with a need to get the white out, I decided to check out LA Cafe after a near 1-year hiatus. I was disturbingly shocked at the poor quality of talent as I strolled in at 11:30 on a Saturday night. Forget the under 20 yo niblets of yesteryear. I was struggling to see anything below 25 yo or anything resembling a talent I would want to employ for sex. Walked out after a few rounds and tried G Point and Amazonia. Substantially worse at these venues in terms of age, looks and selection. Walked back to LA Cafe. Nothing changed for the better, so went home alone to watch world cup. Tragic conditions for the formerly reliable circuit. Guess I will treasure my contacts even more. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain.[/QUOTE]
I will be in Manila in July in Pasy area and have been looking in advance at some escort options in the area. Manila Courtesans looks like they have nice girls, but the prices seem steep. 4000 plus for 2 hours and 8000 plus all night. Is this a good deal? I know for convenience sake they come to the hotel, but are there better options for finding some cute 18 year old spinners?
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[QUOTE=BronzeMan;1581551]Where's the quality in Manila? I see some real stars in the photo gallery from guys like AsianRain and in some porns online. I've also been with some regular pinays in other countries that were very hot. Imagine my surprise then when I came to Manila.
The malls some talked about had no obvious talent. LA / Manila bay cafe and Havana Cafe had girls I wouldn't fuck for free. Maybe if I was hard up, but I'm not. I'm relatively young and fit and I live in Asia.
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Was really hoping to find some firm 18-21 year old gems like I've seen in AsianRains photos but unfortunately no luck. Very sad for me.[/QUOTE]Hi Bronzeman,
Congratulations on a very entertaining and well-written post. And I do agree with almost all that you have written.
The expert mongerers here in PI have honed their skills and developed their networks of girls over a number of years. A quick visit to Manila cannot unearth the same quality and quantity of girls.
But I believe that there are many great opportunities out there. I am more into freebies than P4 P and have found many intelligent, educated and sexy young ladies in Manila. I have met some on PinaLove and Filipina Cupid where it is easy to identify the better class of girls. I have also met many at places where girls from the squatter camps do not, and could not afford to go, including hotels (even staff! Universities and training hospitals. I have even had success at places like Market, Market and the restaurants in Global City, and a number of TGIF restaurants.
Be alert, be aware of, and respond to the slight signals of interest from girls 24/7. And you will be rewarded!
Again, thanks for a great post!
[QUOTE=BronzeMan;1581551]. . < SNIP > . . .
What's worse is the condition of the place. It's like a giant slum. Aggressive scammers and beggars everywhere. Worst I've seen. At least half of the taxis try to cheat you. Walking around difficult to impossible. Public transport is a disgusting joke. Traffic is unbearable. Airport is worst I've ever seen. Service lacking everywhere, even five star hotels. Shopping sucks too. Get searched everywhere you go. Returned to my $250 a night hotel with a shopping bag only to be stopped and have it looked through. Nothing like being treated as a potential threat by people who make in two months what you are paying per day.
Never experienced anything like this in traveling all through Asia and Latin America.
A week in getting depressed with my visit. Wouldn't return. [/QUOTE]BronzeMan: I am sorry to hear your experience at Air Force 1 and elsewhere was not so good especially after I recommended it. Did you try any of the high-end clubs?
Your post about your experiences was, sadly, pretty accurate about the situation here, particularly the points that I reproduced above.
I have substantial work and investments in the Philippines so I always look at the "half-full glass" to justify my reasons for staying here. If I dwelt too much on the negatives then I would go crazy. Your post reminds me of the things that I try to ignore and avoid but it doesn't mean they are not still there.
I hope you find some nice young ones before you head out.
I made my monthly trip into Manila from the province a couple days ago and walked from Swagman's to Robinson's to LAC to G Point. That part of town just seems to be getting worse and worse. It can get a little bit boring out here where I live when they roll the carpets up at 9:00 p.m. but I'm starting to be happy about making the move. What's really interesting is it seems more women out here are interested in meeting me than when I lived in Manila. I couldn't have played my last card in a city of 20 million, could I?
Bronzeman,
Wrote a very comprehensive and helpful guide on where to find and how much to pay for sex in Pnom Penh. I was very impressed with his thoroughness and factual reporting.
He just dropped a big bomb about the lack of quality of Manila girls, which may rankle a few entrenched people.
Beauty is somewhat subjective. But even for a very tolerant guy like me, I found the average Pinays just not as pretty and good-looking as girls and women in other Asian countries. Of course there are small populations of the extremely pretty and extremely ugly girls in any country. Pics posted by the bros would validate this point.
I posted my viewpoints that AC girls are crude and caught a lot of flaks from a few bros. But bar girls with head lice, claiming lots of girls also have them, is big, terrible news. That means the average Pinays' personal hygiene and their sanitary conditions are probably behind other Asian countries by about 70 years. Damn. If you pick up these parasites and bring them home, you would never be able to get rid of them and would face big problems.
In contrast I found AC a brutal and repulsive meat market of crude, ugly, rude country girls, a place I don't want to come back to. LA Cafe has some old and ugly hos to the point I would not want to even look at them. But I hang around a little each time and found a few good-looking, young ones. I took the young student to tour the city, shopping and meals ect. I felt very good spending time with her because she speaks English and have good manners. Her company was far more satisfying in and out of bed than girls in other countries, whom I could fuck but could not communicate.
The girls I picked up from the casas were nice, clean, pretty. I enjoyed sex with them so much that I would come back for them. I will just have to be more careful and check for head lice and crab lice problems.
A few years ago I picked up crab lice from a very beautiful model living in Beverly Hills. She and her younger sister were semi pros. Don't know where she picked up that problem.
Have heard from a few bros that they picked up crab lice and bed bugs in Mexico and other countries in Central and South America. There is also supposedly a bed bug crisis in many US cities. Fucking ghetto hoes and bedding down in sleazy hooker motels and you may bring home some very serious problems.
Forget about the Phil with its head lice and bed bugs. Just tell us where to go for the best sex and the most funs in Asia. Hehe.
[QUOTE=BronzeMan;1581551]Where's the quality in Manila? I see some real stars in the photo gallery from guys like AsianRain and in some porns online. I've also been with some regular pinays in other countries that were very hot. Imagine my surprise then when I came to Manila.
I thought I found a gem with Kojax. Girls seem relatively younger and more fit. Almost no fatties. Met a gal that looked pretty good in the club. Crazy bar fine of 6500. Money is not a big deal for me but the quality has to be there. Outside realize she's pretty average, not even as good as many of the girls I've seen at Mall of Asia shopping with family. Back in the room start running my hands through her hair and find that she has a killer head lice infection. Lice literally falling out on my white sheets in the New World Makati hotel. She tells me is just "kuto" and that everyone gets it here frequently. Offers to call her friend and prove it when she sees my disbelief. What the fuck?..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BronzeMan;1581551]Where's the quality in Manila? I see some real stars in the photo gallery from guys like AsianRain and in some porns online.
[/QUOTE]I hung out on Burgos for a few days and I SAW several very hot BGs. I BFed a few, 2 of which were equal or better than what I see posted here. I know what beauty is and there is good quality on Burgos St, young, tight, w / flat stomachs so Bman you did not see all Burgos has to offer apparently.
I don't have the time there to develop a stable of horney desperate civvies so the bars are my hunting grounds. The Burgos bars are worth going to if you like slim, young and tight, the chubs are there too of course.
In my opinion the hottest women are in Cebu but that's in the scummy Philippines so don't bother.
Good Luck again
Beauty is subjective I guess so I won't comment on your "beauty". I will say under no circumstances is a short time with her worth $200 plus. Just my opinion. If you like that look let me know when you're in Cambodia and I'll fill you in on a place to find the same or better for one tenth the price, or in Thai one seventh.
[QUOTE=BronzeMan;1582039]Beauty is subjective I guess so I won't comment on your "beauty". I will say under no circumstances is a short time with her worth $200 plus. Just my opinion. If you like that look let me know when you're in Cambodia and I'll fill you in on a place to find the same or better for one tenth the price, or in Thai one seventh.[/QUOTE]That's great news about Cambodia and makes it more likely I will go there. But we're talking about the PI and I have never witnessed your assessment of the PI.
[QUOTE=BronzeMan;1581551]
Burgos has lots of bars. Some allow action right inside. But those have the worst of the worst doing the deeds. The other bars aren't much better. Lots of fat girls by Asian standards. Tons of stretch marks and baby bellies, scars, hairy legs, dirty feet. Nice enough but most can't hold a conversion despite their ability to speak English. Most didn't even know where Cambodia or Vietnam are or the names of their own church and civic leaders. I don't blame them since they grew up in such poor conditions. I'm mentioning it because guys here have lauded these girls as great conversationalists in comparison with Thai and Khmer girls. I can speak English, Thai and Khmer and I would say the knowledge and ability to converse is lower here than anywhere. Plus a lot of older women who are 25+. Way too old to pay for. Unlimited supply of freebies online.
I thought I found a gem with Kojax. Girls seem relatively younger and more fit. Almost no fatties. Met a gal that looked pretty good in the club. Crazy bar fine of 6500. Money is not a big deal for me but the quality has to be there. Outside realize she's pretty average, not even as good as many of the girls I've seen at Mall of Asia shopping with family. Back in the room start running my hands through her hair and find that she has a killer head lice infection. Lice literally falling out on my white sheets in the New World Makati hotel[/QUOTE]I agree w / you on prices, they're ridiculous, and that the quality of sex is amateurish but I did enjoy most of my sessions because of tight pussies and the GFE I received from all the ladies. The AC and Burgos BGs (below) were special fucks, I'm still feeling it.
During my holiday I did not see much baby damage, scars, hairy legs, dirty feet on any of the BGs. I've never dealt w / lice on any of my past trips but I tend to steer clear of the lower tier places so that might be why.
I just think your general assessment is not accurate compared to my experiences. The BG below is 18 and her body is prefect, a little wear and tear but that's part of the scene, it can't be helped.
You obviously have very high standards and there are very few bars to meet your standard. I have known from the very start of my international mongering career that the best of the best are not working these bars. The very best lookers get snapped up fast or gravitate to the bigger money bars. They are no where near AC and they don't sell their wares in a Burgos bar either.
So I do wish you luck in finding the quality you seek. As for AR and his ladies, they are fine but the faces are censored so no one really knows how pretty each one is. His taste for thin and young is spot on and has had a positive influence on me.
On my last visit I enjoyed some very fine women, one in AC, and two on Burgos. There was one un-barfineable lady at Bottoms that was immaculate in body and presence and still had a pristine body as if she'd never been fucked.
Anyhoo cheers Bro, I hope someday we can share a beer and talk shop some more.
Life is good.
My fav from AC.
[QUOTE=BronzeMan;1582039]Beauty is subjective I guess so I won't comment on your "beauty". I will say under no circumstances is a short time with her worth $200 plus. Just my opinion. If you like that look let me know when you're in Cambodia and I'll fill you in on a place to find the same or better for one tenth the price, or in Thai one seventh.[/QUOTE]I wanted to thank you for your original post regarding your impressions of the country. Like Red Kilt, I live here, and have investments here, which makes it difficult for me to pull up stakes and relocate to a more congenial place. Your characterization of the country evoked feelings that I usually try (not always successfully) to supress, since focusing on the obvious poverty, dirt, ugliness, nightmarish traffic and general hopelessness of the country would compound the difficulty of living here. The bottom line for me is that since I live here, I might as well try to make the best of it. For me, when I'm in Manila, this means rarely venturing outside of the Makati (Fairmont Hotel) and Ortigas (where my office is) areas. I find that if I can hang around the Fairmont, and the nearby Greenbelt Mall, I can, with a little mental effort, forget that I'm on a relatively affluent island surrounded by desperation.
Having spent significant time in Thailand, and a few weeks in Cambodia, I can understand your preference for either of the latter countries. However, if you've not written the Philippines off completely, you might want to consider visiting some of the provincial areas. You won't find any less poverty, but you might find dramatically different attitudes and outlooks. This is one of the major reasons that I prefer Davao, and even Cebu, to the unlivable cesspool of most of Manila.
GE.
Grand Ma Sheila is so horny, she should be paying guys bi bucks to poke her. Hehe.
She will be right at home at LA Cafe. Hehe.
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Meet Sheila Vogel-Coupe: Britain's oldest granny prostitute who's still busy with clients at 85.
Monday 19 May 2014 11:08 am.
Sitting in her chair with a head of grey hair, a buttoned-up cardigan and a beaming smile, you'the be forgiven for thinking Sheila Vogel-Coupe was just like any other grandmother. But that is exactly what she is not.
At 85 years of age Sheila has more notches on her bedpost than most twentysomethings – because she is Britain's oldest prostitute.
On closer examination, you can see that Sheila wears a miniskirt, suspenders and patent heels. And it's no wonder she has such a large grin on her face, given that she rakes in £250 an hour for raunchy romps.
Sheila went on the game four years ago after struggling with loneliness following the death of her second husband, aeronautical engineer Noel Coupe, in 2004.
She used to entertain ten clients a week until she had to go under the knife for an operation in which she had to have 13 in of intestine removed.
Since taking up the world's oldest profession, she has been disowned by her family and seen her story splashed all over the Press – but it isn't enough to get her to give up her lucrative career.
'I don't think I will ever stop,' Sheila says ahead of appearing on new Channel 4 documentary My Granny The Escort.
More: X Factor Katie Waissel 'ruined my career' says porn star gran.
Speaking about her male clients, she said: 'They see something about me. It is a nice feeling.
'Often men call me up and say, "Will you please go on talking because you are turning me on. " I know I am very, very sexy. '
Attempting to explain why she's a granny on the game, she added: 'The most important reason is because I love sex. Even thinking about it makes me feel better.
'It doesn't just begin with sex, there is companionship too. I have been on my own for nine years and I do get lonely. I love the companionship of gentlemen. I really have no inhibitions. '.
More: X Factor star Katie's prostitute gran defends her job.
Some – and not just her many clients – may recognise her after she hit headlines in 2010 for being the grandmother of controversial X Factor contestant Katie Waissel.
Unfortunately when it emerged Waissel's grandmother was an escort, her family didn't take it too well.
But Sheila defiantly adds: 'You would have thought I had committed a murder. They couldn't believe I could do something like that.
'They wanted me to promise I would never do it again. I told them to stuff it. '
The Channel 4 documentary also features 64-year-old Beverley – a grandmother who entertains men at her suburban home, and 57-year-old Sophie who invites clients to her isolated country pad for romps.
My Granny The Escort airs on C4 on Thursday, May 29, at 10 pm.
My post mainly focuses on Makati and Burgos St. I have zero exp compared to others here. The country / government in general is depressing at best. I was only talking about the Makati area and BGs in general. It is a modern day barbaric tradegy, it's the way of ignorance, greed and fear. All the beauty and horror on this planet is orchstrated by nture so it's meant to be as I have come to believe.
I trust nature, not man.
Wow, what an interesting string of posts and conversation!
As someone with only minor experience in the PI limited to a long weekend in Cebu, let me say that these mostly negative verdicts matched my initial impressions. I went to all the Cebu haunts, several per night, trying to find the girls which much of the ISG community has made legendary over the years. I didn't see anything appealing at all. As some of you may have noticed, I have been among those asking for opinions from more experienced PI expats about where to go to find these women, mostly because I am still so perplexed as to why my initial impression seemed to differ so vastly from everyone else. I mean, look at the PI forums! They have got to be the busiest, most active threads on the whole website! Guys are posting pics practically every day.
I was planning to visit again, thinking I had just been unlucky. But now I realize that my initial impressions were correct, so that trip is now officially cancelled. Been eager to visit Myanmar anyway.
That being said, lets clarify one thing, lest people misinterpret our conclusions. Our opinions are about Filipino PUTAs, not all Filipino women in general. If you look at the prostitutes in the USA, you could hardly draw conclusions about all American women. I am sure that there are tons of pretty, smart, educated women in the Phillipines. They just don't hang out in LA Cafe at 3 o'clock in the afternoon. Let's emphasize that we are talking about a SPECIFIC demographic here.
I want to say this, first of all, because its right. Secondly, if it is NOT clarified, some knucklehead standing up third world countries is going to launch a tirade of progressive rants targetted at other members. The country and people of the PI don't need to be defended. Just the P4P scene.
I have only been to the Philippines a few times and what keeps drawing me back is not Burgos, or any of the places mentioned in Manila. I have never been to Angeles, and have no desire to go there. The food is not good, the traffic is worse than the food, and it's a difficult country to navigate.
What keeps me coming back is the dating site women I have met. I tend to target the early thirties to early to mid forty year old age group with a good education, decent jobs, and who are still relatively well preserved. For my purposes they do the trick and when we are in public I don't feel like an old pervert. I am an old pervert, but at least there isn't a huge age difference to flag those that see us together. My time with them tends to be for a few days. They are realistic. They know their way around both in and out of the bedroom, and for the most part when they say "I will guide you" they actually know how to get to where you want to go.
When I have been with them, I have seldom had to worry about figuring out boat or bus schedules as they just look after things for me and I simply tag along LOL. As well, they can hold a conversation and we keep in touch with each other between trips. So in fact they have been true girlfriend experiences in every sense of the word but they are also realistic about no commitments.
Which brings me to a bit of a bone of contention. I had one lady who's company I enjoyed immensely drop out of sight just over a year ago. Pfffft gone. As I am coming back in September I recently started to escalate my search for her. I finally found a picture of her relaxing over a glass of wine at her new home in the Netherlands. Some dirty Dutchman scooped her up and relocated her on me. lol How inconsiderate. I was counting on her on this trip again.
I am sure that with only about twenty million available women in the Philippines I will never be able to replace her. There is a lot of crappy things about the Philippines, but these are the women who keep me coming back and enjoying my time there.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1581950]
B. But bar girls with head lice, claiming lots of girls also have them, is big, terrible news. That means the average Pinays' personal hygiene and their sanitary conditions are probably behind other Asian countries by about 70 years. Damn. If you pick up these parasites and bring them home, you would never be able to get rid of them and would face big problems.
Fe.[/QUOTE]Hate to burst your anti Pinay crusade, but headlice is a common problem in Asia.
[URL]http://www.headlice.org/news/2005/malaysia.htm[/URL]
[URL]http://www.expatsingapore.com/forum/index.php?topic=73265.0;prev_next%3Dnext[/URL]
[URL]http://www.chinaexpathealth.com/2011/11/13/shanghai-headlice-and-cooties-really.html[/URL]
Have a look at the sites for all International schools in Asia (where given the fees one would assume the parents ensure their kids practice good personal hygiene and you will see they all have discussion groups about this problem. Yes including squeaky clean Singapore.
So if kids have it, high chance other parts of the population have it, yes including Philippines.
Keep trying fella. One day your going to make a meaningful post.
It's hard to argue with documented fact but I think that's mostly limited to school kids right? School kids everywhere get lice. We're talking about adult women working in entertainment and going out at a rate of $200+ per. That's more than a Korean massage parlor charges in New York city and those women are immaculate in their hygiene and makeup. It'd be unheard of to find one with lice.
Additionally I can say in years of living and traveling Asia very extensively and banging several scores of women I have never encountered head lice in person or even in conversation, which leads me to believe it's not common.
I'm not condemning the whole country. But even coming out of one of the poorest countries in the world I was very shocked by stuff like the lice.
I would say it's probably the best place in Asia for easy pick ups and freebies. But that only makes the mediocre bar girls at 200+ seem even worse.
[QUOTE=Manny51;1582254]Wow, what an interesting string of posts and conversation!
[/QUOTE]I don't agree the truth "now" emerges; many commentators have filed the same FR for the bars for several years now. I rarely go to the bars because I find the pickings on the dating sites so much better, and I'm willing to put in the work to cultivate connections. I do visit LA & Gpoint from time to time when friends are in town and yes, it's often dismal. This is not to say there are no attractive girls there, but those who fish at LA tend to favour, overwhelmingly, the East Asian guys.
A decade and half ago it was almost exclusively white guys; there would be a handful of Japanese, but for the most part they kept to themselves and patronised Japanese-oriented places. The Koreans zerg rushed LA and now the mainland Chinese have followed. This will continue. These guys tend to be younger than the whites and are willing to spend more. And don't discount the popularity of kpop dramas and musical groups in the Philippines; the two major TV networks broadcast far more Korean-produced shows than those from the US, boyband concerts sell out, and this helps build an affinity and even desirability for Koreans amongst Pinays.
The rise of the dating sites offers an attractive girl many more pickings from the convenience of her own home or neighbourhood internet cafe. Why ride a bus for a few hours to Manila, then take a couple of jeeps from the depot to LA, pay p100 for a dingy bedspace, and sit in LA (where the girl-to-guy ratio is 3 or 4 to 1) for hours for the chance of meeting a guy? Better stay at home when you have dozens of guys contacting you every day. And many of these girls find fellas abroad who wire them money. Tough choice, eh?
In addition, I know several girls who have been contacted on FC by reps of Korean-owned dating agencies who offer them cash to visit the office, create a profile, and make themselves available to older Korean fellas online; these guys pay a considerable sum to the agency to find them prospective marriage candidates. As long as they keep seeing new and attractive faces they keep renewing their memberships. Korean-owned tourist agencies do a roaring trade with the package-tour groups of men here for golf and sex. Do you think these agencies are going to leave things to chance when the clients are expecting young and hot women? Of course not. And let's not forget the huge number of KTVs that employ bona fide stunners - watch as they swarm out to the street at 3am. Are any of us going there?
Not to insult anyone, but many guys tend to over estimate their attractiveness; research has proven that men consider themselves better looking than they really are and women consider themselves less attractive. If you want an "honest" evaluation of your attractiveness post a photo of yourself on a hot-or-not website; if you're scoring 7 or better you're attractive. Also, older guys tend to underestimate the importance of age. You may be young at heart and have your thumb on the pulse of popular culture, yet everyone else sees you as an "old man". A younger woman may feel uncomfortable and even embarrassed to be seen in such a conspicuous pairing. Years ago she had fewer choices when looking for a younger guy, but this is no longer the case.
I certainly believe the Philippines offers are large number of exceptional yet attainable women, but the numbers looking for a guy like me at LA Cafe and the like grow fewer and fewer. No need to waste my time there. The pizza there is really tasty, though.
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1582346]
In addition, I know several girls who have been contacted on FC by reps of Korean-owned dating agencies who offer them cash to visit the office, create a profile, and make themselves available to older Korean fellas online; these guys pay a considerable sum to the agency to find them prospective marriage candidates.[/QUOTE]You make a point that the pinays seem to be more enamoured of say Koreans. Yet, Koreans do not marry Pinays as a rule. I think the same is true of Japanese. Koreans have an overwhelming cultural bias to marry other Koreans. It is rare that they venture outside their kind. It may not be as strong as the Japanese but I suspect they work almost the same.
However Westerners marry Pinays. We can really really like them well enough to bring them home to meet mom. These other guys can not. And that is the rub for the Pinay. We should remind our prospective Pinay partners, as we try to woo them away from our East Asian rivals, that we will marry you and they will never.
[QUOTE=Pompetus;1582370]You make a point that the pinays seem to be more enamoured of say Koreans. Yet, Koreans do not marry Pinays as a rule. I think the same is true of Japanese. Koreans have an overwhelming cultural bias to marry other Koreans. It is rare that they venture outside their kind. It may not be as strong as the Japanese but I suspect they work almost the same.
However Westerners marry Pinays. We can really really like them well enough to bring them home to meet mom. These other guys can not. And that is the rub for the Pinay. We should remind our prospective Pinay partners, as we try to woo them away from our East Asian rivals, that we will marry you and they will never.[/QUOTE]Maybe I wasn't so clear. These women are paid to create profiles and chat with older Korea blokes, who are often farmers or low-skilled workers, online. They're bait. It's a job. The pay is okay, quite good for doing almost nothing, and they don't need to hang out in a bar waiting for Prince Charming to show up and marry 'em. Moreover, I think most girls learn quickly that there aren't too many Westerners who will marry them either. Sure, they'll talk a wonderful fantasy...
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1582372]Maybe I wasn't so clear. These women are paid to create profiles and chat with older Korea blokes, who are often farmers or low-skilled workers, online. They're bait. It's a job. The pay is okay, quite good for doing almost nothing, and they don't need to hang out in a bar waiting for Prince Charming to show up and marry 'em. Moreover, I think most girls learn quickly that there aren't too many Westerners who will marry them either. Sure, they'll talk a wonderful fantasy...[/QUOTE]Just to add to what Hutsori said:
The Australia Network has been running lots of stories recently about the acute shortage of marriageable-age women in China now (read that as over-abundance of men) because of the one child policy and the (unconfirmed) probability that many female foetuses were aborted because families preferred having a male child as heir.
Two things are discussed in these documentaries:
One is that desperate parents are turning to other countries through dating sites (including so-called mail-order sites) to ensure that their sons marry and produce grandchildren for them, and whilst Philippines is not exactly flavor of the month they are prepared to accept anything.
The second factor is the hordes of horny Chinese guys who don't have any willing girls available to satisfy their lustful urges, hence their travel to places like the Philippines to get laid as often as possible. Travel companies are cashing in on it with "adult entertainment tours" to nearby countries. The Chinese have cash too and the girls here are becoming very much aware of this as well as an awareness that they don't have to snare an older white guy as a possible lifeline for future happenis (oops I mean happiness). Young Chinese are very much suitable for them on many fronts.
So all things considered, expect many more tour groups in the Philippines of young Chinese guys following in the footsteps of the Japanese and Korean guys who blazed the trail before them.
The highest concentration of absolutely gorgeous young pinays that I have ever witnessed has been the students at a number of Manila finishing schools (I was there on purely business matters haha).
What was interesting was that when the schools finished for the day, the most beautiful of the most beautiful were all scooped up by their elderly Pinoy sugar daddys in their luxury cars.
Cheers
[QUOTE=RedKilt;1582390]
The second factor is the hordes of horny Chinese guys who don't have any willing girls available to satisfy their lustful urges.[/QUOTE]That's because some of us in China are doing our best to scoop them up by the handful. LOL.
This will likely not be a popular post. There is a tendency in the last few days on the ISG PI boards to work the theme of how terrible Pinay WGs are. They exploit. They have Pinoy BFs. Only extort money. Etc, etc.
OK. A lot of this may be true, but those who post are missing an important point. These girls are people. They do what they do for many reasons but there is still vulnerable girl underneath. A girl who tries to construct a shell to protect herself.
Please remember this. Don't get taken advantage of but sometimes you may wish to invest some effort to find the girl in the shell. If you can get there the rewards on both sides are great.
[QUOTE=NiceGuy99;1582399]This will likely not be a popular post.
These girls are people. They do what they do for many reasons but there is still vulnerable girl underneath. A girl who tries to construct a shell to protect herself.
[/QUOTE]You make an excellent point. I doubt, of all the thousands of prostitutes in the country, that there are more than a handful that selected prostitution enthusiastically as a career. As has been described many times in this forum and elsewhere, these girls are typically victims of a wretched education public education system that prepares very few for meaningful employment, of a wretched government that manages an economy that creates few meaningful jobs, of exploitative families who view the girls as sources of support, and finally of the Catholic church and it's stultifying control of politics.
GE.
I don't think anyone has condemned the wgs for their situation. What I was saying at least is that rough uneducated girls from slums with stretch marks and little sexual skill shouldn't cost over 200 to spend a little time with. That's especially true with freebies of equal quality so easy to acquire.
The rates are way higher than what you'd pay in any other Asian country for similar quality. And no matter how much you have the real quality is simply nowhere to be found. Yes I tried KTVs, Air Force One "first class", and Miss Universe. I didn't see anything better than the typical hot 20 something you can see all over Glorieta 4 (for example).
I found it incredibly easy to pick up even the really hot girls out shopping and take them for coffee or a movie. But sometimes I like the convenience of point and click pay for play, and that's simply not available in Manila that I could see. Add in the general difficulties and agitation of the city and it's not a desirable mongering spot.
[QUOTE=NiceGuy99;1582399]This will likely not be a popular post. There is a tendency in the last few days on the ISG PI boards to work the theme of how terrible Pinay WGs are. They exploit. They have Pinoy BFs. Only extort money. Etc, etc.
OK. A lot of this may be true, but those who post are missing an important point. These girls are people. They do what they do for many reasons but there is still vulnerable girl underneath. A girl who tries to construct a shell to protect herself.
Please remember this. Don't get taken advantage of but sometimes you may wish to invest some effort to find the girl in the shell. If you can get there the rewards on both sides are great.[/QUOTE]There are a few, probably newbies, who didn't enjoy their time in PI and have posted based on that.
There is a great majority of male visitors who admire respect and enjoy the ladies in mutually satisfying terms. The girls are sweet and loving.
Yes some of them can be cynical and scam minded. But the normal visitor with a raised level of alertness will not let himself get scammed. What sounds too good to be true, always is.
There are moments of total and utter delight with some of the ladies we meet.
There are some that work incredibly hard to support themselves and some that have no skills or brains other than a decent body that will soon fade.
Those of us who know the country, and know how to enjoy can have wonderfully relaxed and happy times.
Others, who for whatever reasons have bad luck, meet the wrong types, get scammed or just don't enjoy haven't been shy to express their concerns.
But such visitors IMHO are generally few and far between.
If everyone had a bad time would anyone still go?
I agree in general with Bronzeman, and, all things considered, find little that's attractive in Manila. I can fully understand why the generally miserable character of the place would be considered as simply not worth the hassle. It's interesting to me to read the perspectives of intelligent guys who are new to the country, and I suspect that their points of view are fairly representative of most first-time arrivals here. The pervasive hopelessness of this place--remembering that Manila is about as good as it gets from the standpoint of services and amenities--invariably gets to me after a while. To live here in a state of relative tranquillity requires suppression of these feelings, but they do bubble to the surface frequently. The fact is, that nothing gets better here quickly, and the slow, incremental improvements that do occur, are far outstripped by more rapid progress in almost all sectors, in other SE Asian countries. So, relative to its neighbors, this place continuously lags behind. Singapore, Vietnam and Malaysia, for example, continue to build shiny new and efficient airports, while here, the government "makes plans. ".
Perhaps even sadder than the generally deplorable condition of the country is that ordinary Filipinos are cognizant of the indifference and total incompetence of their government, but feel hopeless to do anything that might improve the situation. Talk to any taxicab driver, restaurant waitress, sales clerk or other "ordinary" Filipino and chances are they will express the same concerns. They know as well about the progress being made in other countries and in general deplore their government. However, they feel and in fact are, helpless.
Having spent abundant time in Thailand, and much shorter but thoroughly enjoyable times in Cambodia and Vietnam, I agree that any of those destinations are more desirable than the Philippines.
GE.
[QUOTE=BronzeMan;1582337]It's hard to argue with documented fact but I think that's mostly limited to school kids right? School kids everywhere get lice. We're talking about adult women working in entertainment and going out at a rate of $200+ per. That's more than a Korean massage parlor charges in New York city and those women are immaculate in their hygiene and makeup. It'd be unheard of to find one with lice.
Additionally I can say in years of living and traveling Asia very extensively and banging several scores of women I have never encountered head lice in person or even in conversation, which leads me to believe it's not common.
I'm not condemning the whole country. But even coming out of one of the poorest countries in the world I was very shocked by stuff like the lice.
I would say it's probably the best place in Asia for easy pick ups and freebies. But that only makes the mediocre bar girls at 200+ seem even worse.[/QUOTE]In nine years I've never met or bedded a Pinay that wasn't anything but sqeeky clean in her hair. They invest considerable time mony & effort in washing conditioning cutting & dying their hair. I doubt the original poster's report.
AV.
CaliProhada great map:
[URL]https://mapsengine.google.com/map/viewer?mid=zW_noa9126aI.kampoQlaMeVE[/URL]
Thanks for the great job! Anyone know of an updated map?
[QUOTE=FredGold;1582746]CaliProhada great map:
[URL]https://mapsengine.google.com/map/viewer?mid=zW_noa9126aI.kampoQlaMeVE[/URL]
Thanks for the great job! Anyone know of an updated map?[/QUOTE]I might not be the only member here having serious doubts as to whether CaliAmateur has ever been to most of those places.
Just back from a short 3 day jaunt to Manila. My 2nd visit there.
Last time I met an absolute pristine lady via FC so thought I'd try the same again this time.
Setup the account about 2 weeks from my trip and was armed with about 6 numbers to pursue during my time there.
Only managed to meet 1, a 24 yo spinner. No kids, great personality, gorgeous.
Met for lunch then back to my room for some BBBJ as she was on the rags, out to dinner and movies the next day.
Total sweetheart, but I was very self conscious walking around with her at Greenbelt on a Fri night. I'm 6 ft 3, almost double her age and double her size.
My first Burgos experience was generally disappointing. Overpriced and overaged for the large part.
Sure there are plenty of girls, and there are a few gems. Certainly better than what I'd seen at MBC on my previous trip.
Ended up bar fining a 23 yo from Plan B. Super friendly in the bar, but turned i after I'd fucked her. So set her loose. Damage $2.6 + $3 K.
The 3rd girl was from a casa run.
Got a taxi to take me to 2 places, once again generally really average quality, no superstars to be seen. But it was around 10 pm on a Sat night, so may have left my run too late.
Took a 19 yo back, but after 1 round I lost interest so sent her back. Damage $4 k.
I'd go back again, but prob just concentrate on the freebies / dating sites. And if struck out go for a quickie at one of the bars.
In some of the bars the girls where quite happy to play with my willy under the table for a drink.
Was tempted to try one of the "massage" girls on Burgos but never got around to it. 500 p seems like a reasonable deal if they put out for that?
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1582372]most girls learn quickly that there aren't too many Westerners who will marry them either. Sure, they'll talk a wonderful fantasy...[/QUOTE]But the facts don't support that. There are about 300,000 US citizens living in the PI. If you include EU and Ozzies, the number may double. A conservative estimate is that a half a million Westerners live in the PI. Probably almost all are men and when they get married, they marry a Filipina. Many of their mestizo children are put through the local school system. There is nothing too aloof about the Western expats in the PI.
On the other hand, consider the Korean expat community whose number is about 125,000. The men are usually alone leaving their wives and family at home. Those that do bring their families from Korea send their children to special schools. There is very little assimilation, integration, or cultural adjustment of Koreans to the Philippines. They have their own restaurants, churches, beauty salons, and on.
Korean men don't give a shit about Filipinas. You should enlighten the Filipina of all this the next time she shuns you in favor of a Korean.
It is because, a lot of catch is exported out. There are three countries that buy up just about every fish, shrimp, snail, or anything that is edible out of the ocean. Japan, Korea and China. So, this makes local fare much more expensive.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1581267]With severely polluted ocean around Quezon, I would be very careful what I eat in the Phil.
There is an outdoor market with a few stalls selling live or fresh seafood near New Asia mall, and a dozen restaurants that cook the food for a fee. But the supplies are small, varieties limited, and prices are ridiculously high, like 5 x to 6 x average price in the US. WTF? The Phil are basically fishermen living on 1000's of islands in the middle of the Pacific. Why the fuck is their seafood so expensive? They pissed me off.
Went to a few fancy seafood restaurant on Ermita and Malate where food are sold by the 100 grams. Restaurants in the Phil are very plain and expensive and the foods are not so good.
Stick to the food courts in malls. They serve large varieties of authentic Filipino foods in clean environment that the locals like. Recommended...[/QUOTE]
Koreans rarely marry out of their race. It is not a done thing. A kid will get ostracized, if dates or marries someone outside.
[QUOTE=Pompetus;1582370]You make a point that the pinays seem to be more enamoured of say Koreans. Yet, Koreans do not marry Pinays as a rule. I think the same is true of Japanese. Koreans have an overwhelming cultural bias to marry other Koreans. It is rare that they venture outside their kind. It may not be as strong as the Japanese but I suspect they work almost the same.
However Westerners marry Pinays. We can really really like them well enough to bring them home to meet mom. These other guys can not. And that is the rub for the Pinay. We should remind our prospective Pinay partners, as we try to woo them away from our East Asian rivals, that we will marry you and they will never.[/QUOTE]
Red Kilt:
You are right. I believe Chinese guys will overwhelm the system that we have painstakingly developed over the years. I travel back and forth between China and US about 6 times a year, and have an office in Ningbo and Shanghai. Not one day passes buy without a Chinese guy asking me, how are the girls in Phillipines. In China it is easy to get girls. The Karaoke is a great place. But you do need local people to take you. In the Karaoke bars, there are girls who will go back to your room. They usually spend the night for about 700 to a 1000 RMB. And the mamasan is informed, in advance of your intentions, so she will bring the girls that can go out during the beauty contest.
At Karaoke's in China, they parade all the girls, and you pick a girl for the night, as a drinking companion. Many a times, I have been able to take the phone number of my drinking companion, and have hooked up. These are working girls on low wages, college girls etc. But if you tell the mamasan in advance through your local guy, they will be a separate parade, of girls who need the money.
What has happened now, is the Chinese guys want to get out of China. Not just for the girls, but to get out, to go to another country. And part of getting out includes, girls. So, you are going to see more flights coming out of China, packed. Each person will save enough to make one trip, over a period of several years. And you take 100's of thousands of guys, and you are looking at a lot of trips. If you are in Phillipines, and you can set up a travel agency to cater for Chinese, you'd do well.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;1582390]Just to add to what Hutsori said:
The Australia Network has been running lots of stories recently about the acute shortage of marriageable-age women in China now (read that as over-abundance of men) because of the one child policy and the (unconfirmed) probability that many female foetuses were aborted because families preferred having a male child as heir.
Two things are discussed in these documentaries:
One is that desperate parents are turning to other countries through dating sites (including so-called mail-order sites) to ensure that their sons marry and produce grandchildren for them, and whilst Philippines is not exactly flavor of the month they are prepared to accept anything...[/QUOTE]
I used to work for a Korean tech company here in Los Angeles. If you were not Korean, you were not promoted. They went to extra length of bringing Koreans from Korea, which I had to train. Because of this, I made a lot of Korean friends. They are very ethnocentric. They rarely marry outside of their race. One of my friend dated a Chinese girl, and he had a lot of difficulties. Took a long time, before his family accepted him. The girl went to learn Korean, so she can understand all the jokes that the family was exchanging behind her back at her expense. My best friends sister married a Korean. She is a very beautiful Persian girl, and he, a dorky looking Korean guy. He is the only son. His parents disowned him, the day he married her. They had been dating for 7 years, from the time they were in high school. I can go on, with a lot of similar stories. But this is the gist of it. They just do not mix. And this is in the USA. So, I could just imagine how poorly Filipino's get treated. Unfortunately, money has a way of overlooking even the worst in us. I still have a lot of Korean friends, and I point it out to them every chance I get.
[QUOTE=Pompetus;1582965]But the facts don't support that. There are about 300,000 US citizens living in the PI. If you include EU and Ozzies, the number may double. A conservative estimate is that a half a million Westerners live in the PI. Probably almost all are men and when they get married, they marry a Filipina. Many of their mestizo children are put through the local school system. There is nothing too aloof about the Western expats in the PI.
On the other hand, consider the Korean expat community whose number is about 125,000. The men are usually alone leaving their wives and family at home. Those that do bring their families from Korea send their children to special schools. There is very little assimilation, integration, or cultural adjustment of Koreans to the Philippines. They have their own restaurants, churches, beauty salons, and on.
Korean men don't give a shit about Filipinas. You should enlighten the Filipina of all this the next time she shuns you in favor of a Korean.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pompetus;1582965]But the facts don't support that. There are about 300,000 US citizens living in the PI. If you include EU and Ozzies, the number may double. A conservative estimate is that a half a million Westerners live in the PI. Probably almost all are men and when they get married, they marry a Filipina. Many of their mestizo children are put through the local school system. There is nothing too aloof about the Western expats in the PI.
On the other hand, consider the Korean expat community whose number is about 125,000. The men are usually alone leaving their wives and family at home. Those that do bring their families from Korea send their children to special schools. There is very little assimilation, integration, or cultural adjustment of Koreans to the Philippines. They have their own restaurants, churches, beauty salons, and on.
Korean men don't give a shit about Filipinas. You should enlighten the Filipina of all this the next time she shuns you in favor of a Korean.[/QUOTE]Oh please. As if you really do?
So if you married a Filipino woman, you would gladly surrender yourself to the Filipino system, put your children in Filipino public schools etc?
Don't fall into the trap of "Asian men are rats, and I am the western hero" mindset. That's so out of date and lame. You've watched "Shogun" too many times.
Just to ask.
Has anyone here actually ever ASKED a Filipino woman why East Asian men are preferred?
[QUOTE=Pompetus;1582965]But the facts don't support that. There are about 300,000 US citizens living in the PI. If you include EU and Ozzies, the number may double. A conservative estimate is that a half a million Westerners live in the PI. Probably almost all are men and when they get married, they marry a Filipina. [/QUOTE]Not sure of your logic. Westerners that live there are of the marrying age whereas Asians are already married, really?
On the contrary, the only single westerners that re-locate there are 'probably' middle age or older, divorced and / or couldn't get laid back home and looking for easy pussy. LOL!
[QUOTE=Manny51;1583084]Oh please. As if you really do?
Don't fall into the trap of "Asian men are rats, and I am the western hero" mindset. That's so out of date and lame. You've watched "Shogun" too many times.[/QUOTE]
Well said.
[QUOTE=Manny51;1583086]Just to ask.
Has anyone here actually ever ASKED a Filipino woman why East Asian men are preferred?[/QUOTE]Yep, I have asked and the overwhelming response was: "3 inches, 3 minutes, 3 thousand pesos!
[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1583125]Yep, I have asked and the overwhelming response was: "3 inches, 3 minutes, 3 thousand pesos![/QUOTE]Same response from lady in Bangkok too. Very funny!
[QUOTE=Manny51;1583084]Oh please. As if you really do?
So if you married a Filipino woman, you would gladly surrender yourself to the Filipino system, put your children in Filipino public schools etc?
Don't fall into the trap of "Asian men are rats, and I am the western hero" mindset. That's so out of date and lame. You've watched "Shogun" too many times.[/QUOTE]You don't know that I have already done exactly that, rearing a family in the Filipino manner now do you?
[QUOTE=CoolTraveler;1583066] Unfortunately, money has a way of overlooking even the worst in us. [/QUOTE]A lot of ISG posters allude to all the money that Koreans have. Not so. Note well that many of the Korean businesses in Angeles were bankrolled by the Korean Gov't. They encourage overseas investment while the US Gov't discourages it.
Here is the hypocrisy. . On the one hand The Korean Gov't loves to remind the Japanese that they trafficked Korean women in WWII; the so-called comfort women for the Japanese soldiers. On the other hand, the Korean Gov't is knowingly financing the prostitution (trafficking) of Filipinas. If the International Justice Mission wants to stop so-called trafficking let them take their fight to Seoul Korea.
[QUOTE=Pompetus;1583233]You don't know that I have already done exactly that, rearing a family in the Filipino manner now do you?[/QUOTE]Gee. The unverifiable defense. How clever. (groan).
[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1583125]Yep, I have asked and the overwhelming response was: "3 inches, 3 minutes, 3 thousand pesos![/QUOTE]And yet they are still choosing them over you. What does that say about you? That you don't have 3000 pesos?
Heh, heh! I bet you thought you were being clever. Just set them up so I can knock them down!
[QUOTE=Pompetus;1583241]A lot of ISG posters allude to all the money that Koreans have. Not so. Note well that many of the Korean businesses in Angeles were bankrolled by the Korean Gov't. They encourage overseas investment while the US Gov't discourages it.
Here is the hypocrisy. . On the one hand The Korean Gov't loves to remind the Japanese that they trafficked Korean women in WWII; the so-called comfort women for the Japanese soldiers. On the other hand, the Korean Gov't is knowingly financing the prostitution (trafficking) of Filipinas. If the International Justice Mission wants to stop so-called trafficking let them take their fight to Seoul Korea.[/QUOTE]Even if the Korean govt was bankrolling some of these businesses, which I seriously doubt, bankrolling an operation isn't the same as kidnapping and slavery.
Is this the best you got? Seriously. Is this what you tell yourself in your head? Lame.
[QUOTE=Manny51;1583259]And yet they are still choosing them over you. What does that say about you? That you don't have 3000 pesos?
Heh, heh! I bet you thought you were being clever. Just set them up so I can knock them down![/QUOTE]Actually, I think that it shows that you do not understand the meaning behind the expression (which is very common throughout Asia).
Whether the expression is true or not is another issue!!
[QUOTE=Pompetus;1582965]But the facts don't support that. There are about 300,000 US citizens living in the PI. If you include EU and Ozzies, the number may double. A conservative estimate is that a half a million Westerners live in the PI. Probably almost all are men and when they get married, they marry a Filipina. Many of their mestizo children are put through the local school system. There is nothing too aloof about the Western expats in the PI.
On the other hand, consider the Korean expat community whose number is about 125,000. The men are usually alone leaving their wives and family at home. Those that do bring their families from Korea send their children to special schools. There is very little assimilation, integration, or cultural adjustment of Koreans to the Philippines. They have their own restaurants, churches, beauty salons, and on.
Korean men don't give a shit about Filipinas. You should enlighten the Filipina of all this the next time she shuns you in favor of a Korean.[/QUOTE]Most of the US citizens you're thinking of are Filipino Americans. Though it may be insensitive of me to think this way, my comment about Western punters didn't consider Fil-Ams in this mix. Of course you'll find some ethnic Filipino male customers in LA Cafe and other similar establishments, but for the most part they are a small minority. They have many more opportunities elsewhere, KTVs and videokes often being places of their preference.
Of the Koreans many are uni aged here for English education. There are also many youngsters here accompanied by their mothers or grandmothers whilst the father remains in Korea earning an income to support the family. Koreans comprise the largest number of foreign tourists here. Overwhelming so. And a great number are men visiting for sex and golf. The large number of Kopinos in the Philippines tell us seeds have been planted far and wide.
Of the Koreans who marry Pinays many of these men are poor farmers and labourers who are largely shunned by Korean women; since 2000, 236,000 foreign women have settled in South Korea through marriage. Using marriage brokers they find spouses overseas and these women relocate to Korea. For several years Filipinas were amongst the top choice (largely due to the ease it was for the initial Korean marriage brokers to communicate with women in English), but they have been replaced by Vietnamese who are more Confucian and better able to adapt to Korea's culture. Moreover, their lack of English skills means they are less likely to abscond from their Korean spouses and find work to support themselves.
Now, why you're going on about marriage... who knows? Marriage wasn't the gist of my comment. The original post was explaining some of the reasons why there are fewer and fewer very attractive p4p girls at places like LA Cafe. In a nutshell, the environment has changed and these girls have other opportunities.
Hi guys,
Why can't I find any posts in here about places like Butterfly, G-Point, Hussy's, Red Rooster and so on that are all in that area? I just past those places when I walked around while going to Manila for the first time. Some guys tried to show me the way in but I hesitated. What are your experiences in those places?
[QUOTE=Manny51;1583086]Just to ask.
Has anyone here actually ever ASKED a Filipino woman why East Asian men are preferred?[/QUOTE]I have. Pretty much the same reason any menial worker prefers one employer over another: less work for more money. :P
I haven't found any who stated they enjoyed the shouting and punching yet. And the spitting doesn't score high marks either.
Wow! Read forum before the trip. All prepared to pay for play. Learned quickly though. Robinson's is like a wide open candy store where the candy is free! A smile and a coffee at Starbuck's got me girl after girl, day after day. No. I'm not young and handsome, but had 19 - 29 year old amateurs every day during my 2 week stay! I revisited the days of my youth. Hallelujah Manila!
[QUOTE=Pompetus;1582965]Korean men don't give a shit about Filipinas. You should enlighten the Filipina of all this the next time she shuns you in favor of a Korean.[/QUOTE]Koreans leave their wives behind?
You been to Baguio?
About enlightening Filipinas are you serious?
Or have you even dealt with Filipinas? I dealt with many and the vast majority have the attention span of a 3 month puppy and they are as stubborn as you can imagine.
For example get a Filipina to admit Marcos was a thief. And see the reaction.
[QUOTE=Inglewood;1583381]Wow! Read forum before the trip. All prepared to pay for play. Learned quickly though. Robinson's is like a wide open candy store where the candy is free! A smile and a coffee at Starbuck's got me girl after girl, day after day. No. I'm not young and handsome, but had 19 - 29 year old amateurs every day during my 2 week stay! I revisited the days of my youth. Hallelujah Manila![/QUOTE]We can all there. But what you do is actually just beeing an "old" turd or young. For me through your post you only comes forward as a cheap charlie or poor guy/man(you choose as I don't know which one is true). That is basically my comment.
[QUOTE=Ikksman;1583262]Actually, I think that it shows that you do not understand the meaning behind the expression (which is very common throughout Asia).
Whether the expression is true or not is another issue!![/QUOTE]I could care less about whether Filipino women like Koreans versus westerners. I just think its lame that many of the latter feel the need to disparage Koreans and Filipinas. You guys are just sore losers, and ruin the reputation for more respectful and open-minded American punters.
Complain about girls in the US. Complain about girls in the Phillipines. Complain about the Koreans.
Maybe YOU are the problem.
[QUOTE=Inglewood;1583381]Wow! Read forum before the trip. All prepared to pay for play. Learned quickly though. Robinson's is like a wide open candy store where the candy is free! A smile and a coffee at Starbuck's got me girl after girl, day after day. No. I'm not young and handsome, but had 19 - 29 year old amateurs every day during my 2 week stay! I revisited the days of my youth. Hallelujah Manila![/QUOTE]Congrats and welcome to the Land of Manila Thrillas, Ingle. Well done.
[QUOTE=Roginho;1583273]Hi guys,
Why can't I find any posts in here about places like Butterfly, G-Point,. What are your experiences in those places?[/QUOTE]I was in G Point for lunch a couple of weeks ago. Their buffet is so-so, the tacos are great and once in a while a hottie comes in but I have never scored from there. I'm sure other guys who have been there more have.
[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1583125]Yep, I have asked and the overwhelming response was: "3 inches, 3 minutes, 3 thousand pesos![/QUOTE]In Thailand is was 4 inches, 4 minutes 4 thousand baht.
Luckily the older girls actually love fucking and most don't like the fact most asian men smoke and treat them like shit! I like getting one later that had made her money already and was now ready for an actual fuck and they are fine once you get past the "used part" just kidding, sort of.
PP.
[QUOTE=Roginho;1583273]Hi guys,
Why can't I find any posts in here about places like Butterfly, G-Point, Hussy's, Red Rooster and so on that are all in that area? I just past those places when I walked around while going to Manila for the first time. Some guys tried to show me the way in but I hesitated. What are your experiences in those places?[/QUOTE]Never been in Butterfly and if I haven't been there, then there's got to be a reason as I lived about 1 km from there for quite awhile but never heard anybody talk about the place. Hussy's is a dump and I never saw a woman in the place that didn't look like trash. Parenthetically, is Hussy's still there? Red Rooster charged me something like 320 php for a drink. Girls there were also fugly and I'd never give them a centavo of mine in the future due to what they charged me. I've walked by there many times since then and never gave a thought about going in. G Point is much nicer than either Hussy's or Red Rooster with some decent looking women sometimes. Drink prices are half of what they charged me at Red Rooster. At happy hour, they're 20 php if you want rot gut gin or vodka but you have to buy your own mixer. I'll go there sometimes during happy hour, have the rot gut Gilby's and sit by the windows and watch the world go by. As I live here in Candyland, there's no urgency in locating women. My preference is to just sit in a reasonably civilized bar and relax. I'm actually heading into Manila again today and will do the walking tour starting at LA Cafe before the sun goes down.
In your walks Rogin, you've probably passed many other places. So have I, but most I just won't go into as I require some degree of civilization. Even LA Cafe has a little bit of that.
Manila is horrible, the traffic the lack of culture, the traffic, the pollution, the shit streets, the poverty, it has bright spots and it has good women. But please don't ever think you are headed here for any reason other than fucking or working. Outside of manila is better but it sure aint Thailand.
If they did not speak English I would never ever set foot there again. There are good and bad women of course but the general inability to provide decent service where your average Grocery Store Clerk has a university degree is simply absurd. I have many friends there but their lets not get it done attitude drive me nuts. Good family values is the only thing in their culture I really like that and they support their man.
Thailand is my happy place it has it all, Singapore is world class want to explore more but work ties me to Phils.
I have been to Manila at least 15 times and HATE IT!
PP.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1583558]I have been to Manila at least 15 times and HATE IT!
PP.[/QUOTE]Me too.
Looks like I'll be hating it again very soon!
Skogis,
I'm neither. But apparently you fit into my 2 categories. Why pay for old pro when young amateurs are readily available for free? And they enjoy it. Not just after the money!
I have been reading the forum in anticipation of my trip to Manila. I have been ready to complain about feeling teased by all the posts and feeling terrible that I am here and some of you are there making hay while the sun shines (or where the sun don't shine). I can't wait to be there be there to draw my own conclusions. Considering the number and quality of the posts, I'm sure that the must be some good there! As an old fart I am looking forward to fishing at the Robinson Mall for young nubile fillies.
Hmmmm so many positive posts. Thanks to everyone's info. Keep on posting HAPPY HUNTING FRED.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1583578]Me too.
Looks like I'll be hating it again very soon![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1583558]Manila is horrible, the traffic the lack of culture, the traffic, the pollution, the shit streets, the poverty, it has bright spots and it has good women. But please don't ever think you are headed here for any reason other than fucking or working. Outside of manila is better but it sure aint Thailand.
If they did not speak English I would never ever set foot there again. There are good and bad women of course but the general inability to provide decent service where your average Grocery Store Clerk has a university degree is simply absurd. I have many friends there but their lets not get it done attitude drive me nuts. Good family values is the only thing in their culture I really like that and they support their man.
Thailand is my happy place it has it all, Singapore is world class want to explore more but work ties me to Phils.
I have been to Manila at least 15 times and HATE IT!
PP.[/QUOTE]Agree with everything you say except the family values bit. In fact it seems that the lack of family values fuels the bar industry, since about 50% of the dancing girls are single mothers and plenty I have boyfriends or husbands that they go home to after a night of dancing in Burgos or Edsa.
To the guy who thinks I was lying about the head lice all I can say is that I have absolutely no reason or motivation to lie about that sort of thing; and I wouldn't know the word "kuto" if I hadn't heard it directly from the woman's mouth.
Can anyone honestly positively compare Manila to Bangkok? The latter is infinitely a better city in basically any thing you can measure.
Can anyone honestly positively compare Manila go go bars to Bangkok go go bars? Better quality at lower prices in Bangkok to be sure, and a lot less stretch marked baby stomachs. I guess the English and higher possibility for a GFE is a plus for a lot of guys. If I wanted a GFE I'd get a gf.
The huge advantage of Manila is obviously the ease of scoring freebies. It doesn't take much at all. But like I said that ease makes going to the bars even less sensible. Why pay 200 US dollars when you get can the same thing for free? Unless you speak the language, such a thing is much more difficult in Thailand (or Vietnam or Cambodia) so scoring hot young women in the bars makes more sense for visitors, especially since the price is up to 20 times cheaper.
[QUOTE=Inglewood;1583381]Wow! Robinson's is like a wide open candy store where the candy is free! [/QUOTE]That can be said for about the whole country. The most important question is of course "How's the quality"?
Hi guys,
I've been to Manila a couple of times and only visited Burgos street. Bars like bottoms, Moulin Rouge etc have gotten very expensive. They rip you off with the lady drinks and then the heavy bar fines + tip. I was wondering about the quality of girls in EDSA compared to the bars in burgos and the rates? I am not into too much chatting before the hook up so MBC is not an option right? More into lets slam a few drinks and get to room Also any other areas / bars worth checking out?
Any feedback will be helpful.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1583558]Manila is horrible, the traffic the lack of culture, the traffic, the pollution, the shit streets, the poverty, it has bright spots and it has good women. But please don't ever think you are headed here for any reason other than fucking or working. Outside of manila is better but it sure aint Thailand.
I have been to Manila at least 15 times and HATE IT!
PP.[/QUOTE]I get it. But I have to admit that Makati, around the Greenbelt area, has somewhat grown on me, and if I could remain in the one sq. Km. Area with Greenbelt at the center, and never had to drive more than a kilometer, I could tolerate the city somewhat easily. Unfortunately that's not possible for me, and so I need to plunge into he squalor, paralyzing traffic and general anarchy almost every day I'm there. I'm typically in Manila 3-4 days most weeks and find by the end of hose periods I'm exhausted, less because of work than because of enervation of commuting. Unfortunately the inefficiencies of service are ubiquitous throughout the country, so there's no relief by escaping Manila.
GE.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1583524]We can all there. But what you do is actually just beeing an "old" turd or young. For me through your post you only comes forward as a cheap charlie or poor guy/man(you choose as I don't know which one is true). That is basically my comment.[/QUOTE]I think he missed the numerous FRs from yourself, me, David33 and others about the shyness of pinays and the fact they are 'ashamed' to ask for even taxi money. Based on the assumption we are not cheap charlies and we are kind and respectful (albeit it horny and kinky at times). This sort of behavior (and subsequent FRs) gives us a harder time as these amateurs will tell their friends and they may think all westerners are cheap and poor.
Good FR Skogis.
[QUOTE=Inglewood;1583593]Skogis,
I'm neither. But apparently you fit into my 2 categories. Why pay for old pro when young amateurs are readily available for free? And they enjoy it. Not just after the money![/QUOTE]Have Calipro reappeared under a new nick I wonder? I do fine no worries. Simular MO as the fine gentleman you are. Only I compensate.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1583795]I get it. But I have to admit that Makati, around the Greenbelt area, has somewhat grown on me, and if I could remain in the one sq. Km. Area with Greenbelt at the center, and never had to drive more than a kilometer, I could tolerate the city somewhat easily. Unfortunately that's not possible for me, and so I need to plunge into he squalor, paralyzing traffic and general anarchy almost every day I'm there. I'm typically in Manila 3-4 days most weeks and find by the end of hose periods I'm exhausted, less because of work than because of enervation of commuting. Unfortunately the inefficiencies of service are ubiquitous throughout the country, so there's no relief by escaping Manila.
GE.[/QUOTE]I highly agree with you when it comes to your comments on Makati. Here life is relatively simular and efficiant as in the west we are used to. I call it I have created myself a safehaven, Makati surrounded by walls and I stay allways within those perimeters with only small excursions into The Fort and Resort World and the from now on T3. T3 and Makati are located so close as I normaly now save like 30-45 min travelling time (from T2/ T1). That is almost a pop. The bad thing about T3 is that only Cebu Pacific flies here (with minor exceptions as ANA and this autumn I believe Emirates and a few others will change to T3) and from Europe you have to collect luggage and check in all over again at your designated transfering airport (in my case mostly BKK). But it is worth it.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1583836]Have Calipro reappeared under a new nick I wonder? I do fine no worries. Simular MO as the fine gentleman you are. Only I compensate.[/QUOTE]Well, he has 10 FRs in approximately 8 years so unlikely but you are right Skogis in that it sounds the same MO. Young brash, thinks he is a good shagger etc. Good observation.
But why do many of these posters originate from South America? Getting bored in that thread?
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[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1583797]I think he missed the numerous FRs from yourself, me, David33 and others about the shyness of pinays and the fact they are 'ashamed' to ask for even taxi money. Based on the assumption we are not cheap charlies and we are kind and respectful (albeit it horny and kinky at times). This sort of behavior (and subsequent FRs) gives us a harder time as these amateurs will tell their friends and they may think all westerners are cheap and poor.
Good FR Skogis.[/QUOTE]Yes and this is extremely important knowledge. I remember first time in Manila. I was hitting back then Robinson shopping mall Malate and a girl smiling at me joined me back to my room. I was in a way prepared as I did a lot of RTFF's and simular preperations but and there was a big but; I did not know back then about the shynessthing pinays are dealing with. After banging and she was about to leave I did not hear a single word from the girl regarding any money others than she told she was low on cash and hoped I had some small bills for her taxi (as she according to herself was going home). Then it hit me, luckely, what the fuck am I about to do here. The ego thing in me ofcourse wants every girl out there to like me and maby pay me bcs i am so nice chap, hehe, as i give them a great bang but I chose anyway to compensate her for real and not only with 200 piso (in my standards that is next to nothing). I don't remember the exact ammount today but I am sure it was in line with 1 or 2 k. That felt good.
Pinays seems to love sex but even how easy it is to bed them girls we should not be pricks and exploit this. Dealing with girls up there in the social life scale is another matter. Just saying.
So like Calipro and this Inglewood guy we will allways have them around. But i agree if these things blooms the real punters will have trouble getting girls as they eventualy will start disbelieve westerners.
To many pinays you can only say i want to have relationship with you or even worse i will marry you. Lies like that will get you free bangs. It is no art it is just pure evil..
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1583558]Manila is horrible, the traffic the lack of culture, the traffic, the pollution, the shit streets, the poverty, it has bright spots and it has good women. But please don't ever think you are headed here for any reason other than fucking or working. Outside of manila is better but it sure aint Thailand.
I have been to Manila at least 15 times and HATE IT!
PP.[/QUOTE]Where do you think the best place is to go OUTSIDE of Manila? I went to Cebu and was unimpressed, and everyone seems to be doggedly criticizing AC these days.
[QUOTE=Manny51;1584291]Where do you think the best place is to go OUTSIDE of Manila? I went to Cebu and was unimpressed, and everyone seems to be doggedly criticizing AC these days.[/QUOTE]All of these places are what you make them. If you can't have a good time anywhere in the Philippines it is your own damn fault. This place is crawling with the finest babes on the planet. I personally like Dumaguete and the little suburb of Valencia just west of there but it is not a mongering destination per se. Southern Cebu is gorgeous but again BYO. It would be great to do a comprehensive monger study of all the Philippine Islands.
[QUOTE=DCups;1584301]All of these places are what you make them. If you can't have a good time anywhere in the Philippines it is your own damn fault. This place is crawling with the finest babes on the planet. I personally like Dumaguete and the little suburb of Valencia just west of there but it is not a mongering destination per se. Southern Cebu is gorgeous but again BYO. It would be great to do a comprehensive monger study of all the Philippine Islands.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your input, but try not to be so self-righteous. So are you saying that Dumaguete is a good tourist destination, but not a punting destination? Can you clarify?
[QUOTE=Manny51;1584306]I appreciate your input, but try not to be so self-righteous. So are you saying that Dumaguete is a good tourist destination, but not a punting destination? Can you clarify?[/QUOTE]OK, Hi Manny, Duma is a good place to live and ok to visit. They have a nice forest with cool natural pools and hot springs just west of there if you like that sort of thing. There are lots of Western expats there. It has scuba on nearby Apo Island if you like that. Not so great for mongering comparatively but I have never had difficulty there finding a cutie to cuddle up with from Why Not Bar or the boulevard or mall. Nearby Siquijor Island is fun, too. I rented a motorbike and did the whole island in a day and it was fun. I think Southern Cebu eg. , Dalaguete (recommend Ocean Bay Resort), Alcoy (recommend Bodo's Bamboo Bar) is also a great tourist area (take aircon bus, real cheap) but you have to bring a girl from Cebu City because it is definitely in the provinces. Cebu City, like Manila, is horrible traffic, pollution, dirty, beggars, etc. But line up some DIAs and hit the malls for fun. The LA Cafe in Manila is still the best bar on the planet IMO. If you can't get laid by at least a 6 in there you must be hideous and wreak of odor. They have San Miguel lemon, too, which is my fave. AC there are cuties everywhere. Just get a nice hotel (I like Orchid Inn) and start trolling for trollops: they are everywhere! To me the beauty of the Philippines lie in the sweet, sexy, easy Pinays, inexpensive accomodations, lack of language barrier and genuine friendliness. To me it is heaven on earth. I try to ignore all the other bullshit and focus on the plentiful positives. It helps that I play guitar and make many friends that way. The Filipinas are quite musical people. Have fun, Manny, make it what you want it to be!
[QUOTE=Manny51;1584291]Where do you think the best place is to go OUTSIDE of Manila? I went to Cebu and was unimpressed, and everyone seems to be doggedly criticizing AC these days.[/QUOTE]Really unimpressed with Cebu, lets know why as if you don't like Cebu go to AC as more your place IMHO as Cebu is for those with patience and class IMHO LOL. Please no comments that is rhetorical LOL.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1584423]Really unimpressed with Cebu, lets know why as if you don't like Cebu go to AC as more your place IMHO as Cebu is for those with patience and class IMHO LOL. Please no comments that is rhetorical LOL.[/QUOTE]So I guess that you are one of guys with patience and class? LOL! Why don't you try and learn to write in proper English.
[QUOTE=Manny51;1584551]So I guess that you are one of guys with patience and class? LOL! Why don't you try and learn to write in proper English.[/QUOTE]And Manny, why don't you learn to practice what you preach? Your first sentence ends with a question mark but certainly isn't phrased as a question. Perhaps ISG's voice inflection app isn't working properly. Why start needless pissing matches?
[QUOTE=Manny51;1584551]So I guess that you are one of guys with patience and class? LOL! Why don't you try and learn to write in proper English.[/QUOTE]Like WR I am sure my english is not perfect as well. This is due to english only beeing our second language. If you are so "lucky" to be brought up in a english speaking country, good on you, but to attack another punter for his english skills is realy not what this forum should be all about, ok? When you have nothing else to attack then take the language skills, great job (ironic). But no this is running well OT. Just saying and back to pussies.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1583836]Have Calipro reappeared under a new nick I wonder? I do fine no worries. Simular MO as the fine gentleman you are. Only I compensate.[/QUOTE]Calipro reappeared on the Korea forums about a week ago. He made some outlandish comment about not picking up korean girls and just sleeping with filipina factory workers. No clue where in Korea he is or was living. Just thought I'd throw that out there, he is still using that name, at least from time to time.
FLT.
[QUOTE=FLT09;1584712]Calipro reappeared on the Korea forums about a week ago. He made some outlandish comment about not picking up korean girls and just sleeping with filipina factory workers. No clue where in Korea he is or was living. Just thought I'd throw that out there, he is still using that name, at least from time to time.
FLT.[/QUOTE]Calipro 'boasted' he was a teacher in South Korea but likely is not Seoul as I think the factories are well away form the capital. But good to see he is as respectful as was to pinay in the Philippines LOL.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1584559]And Manny, why don't you learn to practice what you preach? Your first sentence ends with a question mark but certainly isn't phrased as a question. Perhaps ISG's voice inflection app isn't working properly. Why start needless pissing matches?[/QUOTE]Hear Hear. Seconded. Like. Etc. Skogis makes good and valuable and interesting contribution on several of the Philippines and Thai boards. Hopefully you also do the same. I beleive the I in ISG stands for International. That means our members are international in their nature and that means that spelling in the language of the board isn't always perfect. So what. We all understand every word Skogis writes.
Maybe you should go to the India and Malaysia boards to see use of word, sentence construction, abbreviation, shortened words and spellings that defy the imagination.
Skogis 2, Manny 0.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1584559]And Manny, why don't you learn to practice what you preach? Your first sentence ends with a question mark but certainly isn't phrased as a question. Perhaps ISG's voice inflection app isn't working properly. Why start needless pissing matches?[/QUOTE]Have heard a lot of brits, aussies, americans, canadians, and others speak the language. Not sure what 'proper' means anymore. When I was in college I thought I knew what proper english was, but then I grew up.
A few days ago I gave a pinay her first ever anal experience. On the in-strokes she would inhale sharply. On the outstroke she would proclaim: "Oh my got!" Given the circumstance, I'd say [B][I]that [/I][/B]was a proper use of english!
[QUOTE=FLT09;1584712]Calipro reappeared on the Korea forums about a week ago. He made some outlandish comment about not picking up korean girls and just sleeping with filipina factory workers. No clue where in Korea he is or was living. Just thought I'd throw that out there, he is still using that name, at least from time to time.
FLT.[/QUOTE]He was certainly full of himself back then on the phils board. All those outlandish claims. Said he would post some FR's from his upcoming trip to phils. Now appears to be another all-talk-no-action guy.
CaliPro where are you?
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1584801]Calipro 'boasted' he was a teacher in South Korea but likely is not Seoul as I think the factories are well away form the capital. But good to see he is as respectful as was to pinay in the Philippines LOL.[/QUOTE]WR, as you, me, and other long term members of this board know, there are some who come, talk a great game and totally fail to deliver.
Sort of reminds me of the English football team.
Maybe he came to Manila and totally failed to score and took the early flight home. Same as England!
His Pinay fans are probably in their dormitory rooms chanting Cali-pro, Cali-pro, Cali-pro as we speak.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1584962]Hear Hear. Seconded. Like. Etc. Skogis makes good and valuable and interesting contribution on several of the Philippines and Thai boards. Hopefully you also do the same. I beleive the I in ISG stands for International. That means our members are international in their nature and that means that spelling in the language of the board isn't always perfect. So what. We all understand every word Skogis writes.
Maybe you should go to the India and Malaysia boards to see use of word, sentence construction, abbreviation, shortened words and spellings that defy the imagination.
Skogis 2, Manny 0.[/QUOTE]I'm with Freebie. I was an undergraduate English major and used to have very firm ideas about what constituted "proper" English. Then I got to graduate school, studied a little about Linguistics, and have lived outside the States for the better part of 3 decades, listening and working with folks from Oz, New Zealand, the UK, Canada and various part of the US, not to mention the Phils and Malaysia and Singapore. Now, I figure as long as I can undstand it, it's proper.
GE.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1585131]I'm with Freebie. I was an undergraduate English major and used to have very firm ideas about what constituted "proper" English. Then I got to graduate school, studied a little about Linguistics, and have lived outside the States for the better part of 3 decades, listening and working with folks from Oz, New Zealand, the UK, Canada and various part of the US, not to mention the Phils and Malaysia and Singapore. Now, I figure as long as I can undstand it, it's proper.
GE.[/QUOTE]Not that this was directed at me in the beginning of this debate. But I find it comforting that the seasoned punters here don't take note in misspellings and bad linguistics. As long as we can understand information given or provided to the board that what's counts. I just felt sorry for the bloke attacked in the first case here so I just did want to give him my support. Stuffs like this will make less contributions as people will be cautious to post as they can be afraid beeing attacked by fine gents borned and raised in english speaking countries. Not all of us are that lucky (no pun intented, hehe).
Never forget the first time I went bar hopping (pub crawl) with some Ozzies. The guy says he was pissed. I took a step back wondering what I'd done wrong. But he didn't seem angry. When he trotted off to the loo, I realized he just wanted to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. It's funny how those Australians weird up the language X.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1585131]I'm with Freebie. I was an undergraduate English major and used to have very firm ideas about what constituted "proper" English. Then I got to graduate school, studied a little about Linguistics, and have lived outside the States for the better part of 3 decades, listening and working with folks from Oz, New Zealand, the UK, Canada and various part of the US, not to mention the Phils and Malaysia and Singapore. Now, I figure as long as I can undstand it, it's proper.
GE.[/QUOTE]
First I am on a high these days as my gf and newborn and her family on the mother side are residing in Spain for the moment. It is relaxing for gf and baby. I, myself, lives a busy life trying to put in as much mongering I am possible capable of with only small divertions into spain and the family vacationhouse.
Have been on a role lately with 3 trips into Makati in 6 weeks (7, 5 and 4 days). The latter just finished today (sadly due to lurking and informing members I have to write reports off scene). But took an early Cebu flight from MNL T3 (hazzlefree) into BKK where I stay a couple of days inspecting if any new talent arrived into the BKK nightlife scene (and I bet it has).
Makati, Ascott 19 to 23.6 2014 was a busy one, 2 days of full mongering and 2 days part rime mongering in between baby monetoring. 10 girls met from my portifolia of datingsitecontacts and one I hit up on ground just creating a new profile (dia babe).
One pocket full of excuses, small lies (thank you freebiefan) allways comes in handy. But I will in the photogallery come back to more details as I now just have the rawmaterial but due to lurkers and the girls safety I will brush them pics a tad.
I sat a new record of 5 girls in one day (morning, midday, afternoon, late eve and a stay the night girl). Not so much pounding power left for the last one but new encounters / new girls makes the body and mind forget about the last one. Spilled only blancos on the last one though.
The most challenging one was actually the on site Dia girl I made come meet me. I am not very found of Angeles but she told me she just was a student there(she used Makati as place of residence in her profile bcs i allways look up that first). She send me pics from her at Clark Airport doing check ins, doing on tarmak work for a Emirates flight (while they still flew there), so her studying tourism / teavel studies might have been genuine. She admitted she had been to Hi So twice with friends (ofcourse) but browsing Hi so pics I did not see her. She send me pics as well from Hi So. She was looking mighty sexy. So probably not a BG but a student wanting a WU was my impression of her. The laim excuse for her using Makati as base was she had a "sister" living there.. I probably never will know.
I told her ok you can come my Ascott hotel. She arrived late around midnight and I have rarely met such a nice spinner. Well spoken, sexy, but not hooker like, dressed. 24 yo. I now by now that buying some "white sinfandells" Beeringer brand (Cal, US), rose wine, makes the girls crazy. It is only a tad stronger than the red horse they are used to but they feel appreciated to some extent. She got tipsy and we ended up fucking, with curtains open viewing the highrise Shangri-la hotel (my livingrooms side floor to ceiling window showed it all for lurkers, hehe). Great experience and quite a view while shagging from behind she just standing on all 4 infront of the wondow. She might have been a student, bargirl or whatever. I don't care as long as meet outside the barenvironment. But she was no virgin I tell you that as I try so many difficult possitions so newbees would not know to handle their legs and arms but she did.
She got ofcourse a fair fee / compensation travelling that long a distance to visit me in Makati even as usual never regariding this issue was discussed upfront.
I know many people hate the thought of this and I vaigly remember threads discussing this matter before without any conclusion to be drawn but I feel the Ascott experience gives the girl an extra curiosness. Most of them don't have a clue where it is even if I try to pin point the girls close by or in Makati (some of the real Makati based knows this hotel and they by far know the entrance to Glorietta 4 mall as they are girls). To girls not knowing I simply ask them to google Ascott Makati (they find a decent pic of the place and the adress, better than me explaining). They seems to go all "OMG do you actually live there". I find it not that posh but I find it better than other simulars like Shangri-la and Fairmont (fairmont much due to my friends gf also live there so she could not handle all my in and outs with girls, they live in the Raffles part). And to a fair price at Ascott, cheaper than Fairmont (smaller rooms) you get yourself a 88 sqm for 8 to 10 k piso a night. The girls like it and sometimes hard to get them to leave. I am not so egosentric that I think it is bcs of me, hehe blame it on the staying place.
A fair girl. Reports from the others will follow. Quite a few funny things happened this time as well.
[QUOTE=XMan;1585193]Never forget the first time I went bar hopping (pub crawl) with some Ozzies. The guy says he was pissed. I took a step back wondering what I'd done wrong. But he didn't seem angry. When he trotted off to the loo, I realized he just wanted to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. It's funny how those Australians weird up the language X.[/QUOTE]I thought the Aussie / Brit term "pissed" meant they had too many beers and were drunk. But that being the case it would also explain his sudden need to run off to the CR, LOL.
Disclaimer: Sorry for any spelling mistakes MF1, English is not my native language and the auto correct function here doesn't seem to always work right.
[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1585228]I thought the Aussie / Brit term "pissed" meant they had too many beers and were drunk. But that being the case it would also explain his sudden need to run off to the CR, LOL.
[/QUOTE]In Australiaspeak, also known as "Strine", "pissed" means "I have drunk too much"; "pissed off" means I am angry about something (just so we are all clear).
[QUOTE=Manny51;1584551]So I guess that you are one of guys with patience and class? LOL! Why don't you try and learn to write in proper English.[/QUOTE]Manny,
I do when it matters, you don't matter as others have pointed out so refreshingly, this a board not a business letter etc.
Reminds me of a great line in 'Scent of a Woman' with Al Pacino when asked by his son in law why he always got the name of his (ie the son in law) company wrong he replied "because you are not important enough to get it right" LOL.
I been getting a few messages from we chat and girls telling me they want to come to my room. Is this safe?
I live in a 5 Star Hotel with security though but when I tell them I meet them at lobby first, all refuse. Why?
[QUOTE=NuruBoy;1585322]I been getting a few messages from we chat and girls telling me they want to come to my room. Is this safe?
I live in a 5 Star Hotel with security though but when I tell them I meet them at lobby first, all refuse. Why?[/QUOTE]They're probably lady boys and they know you'd have them thrown out if they came up to your room. Never give your room number out on that type of venue. Period.
Having said that, I did use WeChat successfully in Cebu and met a few girls, but I met all of them in a public place first. So don't discount the app, I particularly liked that it shows how far away you are from other users and that we could often meet up in a matter of minutes. But always remember to first ask if she's 100% girl.
[quote=nuruboy;1585322]i been getting a few messages from we chat and girls telling me they want to come to my room. is this safe?
i live in a 5 star hotel with security though but when i tell them i meet them at lobby first, all refuse. why?[/quote]it happened to me that i started chatting to a girl from we chat and she suddenly almost in the beginning said that she offers massage in the room for 500 pesos. i gave her my hotel and room info and then the receptionist called me that your "therapist" was there. i said ok and they sent her up. she was like her pic and probably the age of 27 was also true. single, no children. massage, nothing else will happen she said first but then it was a bit hot in the room and she took off her shirt. i got also horny when being massaged when i was naked and promised her a "little bit more". so ended up fucking her bb which was ok "please don't come inside, promise" and then i came on her stomach. gave her 2000 and it was a good experience, i am still thinking about it and her and sometimes she still messages me calling me her "husband". i guess i told her i was looking for a gf too.
i don't know if i was too careless, i don't know if something bad could have happened. was it risky or not. i had nothing to steal from and all valuables were in the safe but i don't know if i should have trusted a stranger like that. maybe not wise in the philippines.
than i decide to try wechat, here is where disaster strikes. i want to warn all bros here. the pic on a wechat is such a hottie. ask her to came to my hotel. hotel security called me says i have a guest, if i allow her to come out. my door bell rings, peep thru the door hole. can't see anything, as blocked by her hair. i open door, she rush in. can't really see clearly. she rush and sit on the bed. the room is dim, so i can't really see. on further observation. oh my gosh. a lady boy. a real ugly one. i tell the lady boy to leave and says i give cab money. the lb refuse to leave and we fight. yes, we fight with punches and kicks. it got real ugly. i manage to push the lb out of the door. than the lb threaten me that i will be in trouble. gosh. this really spoils all. my mood.
so i warn all bros be careful of this scam.
above was seen on another forum.
[QUOTE=Pekkakoo;1585502]I don't know if I was too careless, I don't know if something bad could have happened. Was it risky or not. I had nothing to steal from and all valuables were in the safe but I don't know if I should have trusted a stranger like that. Maybe not wise in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]
It is weird that she didn't want to meet in the lobby first. Anyway, when the front desk called you could have told them that you're coming downstairs to meet her. This would have given you a chance to look her over a bit before going to your room.
I think it's the luck of the draw, but of course you can mitigate risk. I have about 2 years of dating-site strangers coming to my condo regularly and never have had any hassle; they are over 98 per cent of my visitors. The three occasions where cash was stolen from my wallet it was by FL bar pickups who I allowed to stay the night. After three times I finally learnt my lesson and stash my valuables. Another girl, who I had become friendly with at a bar not known for FLs, came over one night and in the morning cautioned me that she could have stolen my smart phones if she wanted - I left them charging in the living room.
Anyway, if you're not going to bring her to your place where will you go? A hot-sheet hotel? At least at your place the front desk has her ID, you have an in-room safe, and you have a good idea where to stash things elsewhere in the room. That isn't the case at the Sogo, is it?
First off, this post is my unoffical report of manila. Official report will be later.
Harrison plaza is not as great as previously advertised, YMMV. I had a hard time at first spotting girls and mamasans. But then as I got the scope of the jungle, I started to see who's who. IMHO, most were not as pretty as advertised and the mamasans I met were a old crusty dude and a ladyboy. The decent girl was pimped by the ladyboy mamsan. She was 18 supposedly, could not verify at time as it was in the midst of negotiations. Negotiated for 1500st, but could not agree on time of payment. They wanted my hotel location and payment up front or a deposit. I told them payment after transaction. They wouldn't agree so I walked away. Don't let these guys take you and be prepared to walk away from a fine young spinner.
Maybe it was a slow day and the selection was poor and their mgmt on duty did not know how to do business. I will attempt to give this place another chance because others had positive experiences. Anyone else have a positive experience at Harrison plaza?
Anyone know of a decent casa in ermita or similar area? Are these places real and is it a single fee for all night? I'm will provide in depth detail of my trip in my offical report similar to spidys style.
Off area / forum: are there any casas in AC?
Thank you
Oh, is that what it means? Thanks Pip, been drinking with brits and ozzies and all sorts of South African guys for twenty years and I never figured it out. Let me reconfirm: pissed = angry / pissed = drunk.
What do we call someone drunk and angry. You know the pissed and pissed type? X.
[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1585228]I thought the Aussie / Brit term "pissed" meant they had too many beers and were drunk. But that being the case it would also explain his sudden need to run off to the CR, LOL.
Disclaimer: Sorry for any spelling mistakes MF1, English is not my native language and the auto correct function here doesn't seem to always work right.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=XMan;1585727]Oh, is that what it means? Thanks Pip, been drinking with brits and ozzies and all sorts of South African guys for twenty years and I never figured it out. Let me reconfirm: pissed = angry / pissed = drunk.
What do we call someone drunk and angry. You know the pissed and pissed type? X.[/QUOTE]See post 12777 XMan.
RTFF (smile).
[QUOTE=XMan;1585727]Oh, is that what it means? Thanks Pip, been drinking with brits and ozzies and all sorts of South African guys for twenty years and I never figured it out. Let me reconfirm: pissed = angry / pissed = drunk.
What do we call someone drunk and angry. You know the pissed and pissed type? X.[/QUOTE]Means he is very pissed LOL And you should not be cracking jokes etc in his company. Avoid like the plague (or a avoid like you would a LB X) LOL.
[QUOTE=XMan;1585727] Let me reconfirm: pissed = angry / pissed = drunk.
What do we call someone drunk and angry. You know the pissed and pissed type? X.[/QUOTE]This should clarify: Angry = Pissed off; Very Drunk = Pissed on (himself, the wall, you, etc). LOL.
[QUOTE=EconoTech;1585532]Oh my Gosh. A Lady Boy. A real ugly one.[/QUOTE]So, if the lady boy was not ugly, then things would have been okay? LOL.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1585822]So, if the lady boy was not ugly, then things would have been okay? LOL.[/QUOTE]Errrr. Mmmm.
Did you read the last line?
I said I saw that on another forum. Ouch.
I am going to visit Manila first time next week end. Suppose to stay for a week. Hotel not yet confirm. Any guys can you please help me track good girl friendly hotel and some pretty good contact of girls.
Appreciate you help.
This is time for global mongering.
Twinky.
[QUOTE=Twinky;1586307]I am going to visit Manila first time next week end. Suppose to stay for a week. Hotel not yet confirm. Any guys can you please help me track good girl friendly hotel and some pretty good contact of girls.
Appreciate you help.
This is time for global mongering.
Twinky.[/QUOTE]You are a senior member and should be aware of the designated hotel thread. There are loads of hotels all around Manila and as far as I know very very very few are NOT girlfriendly. Just make sure to book room for 2 personas.
As you don't give out any info on where in Manila you are going to direct your attention at, pricerange (you have from dormitories to intl worldclass hotels) etc it is hopeless to be at any help even if i would/could. Read mentioned thread. Many people have used hours to provide useful info all you have to do is read it. Contacts I am afraid you have to get yourself. But very very easy to hook up with girls in Manila.
Don't let them in! Mongers using social media to lure unsuspecting nubile Filipinas into their lairs, be it hotel room or condo, may be in for a wicked surprise. You would not let a stranger come into your hotel room in San Francisco or New York City without first checking them out at a safe location. So, why would you let your dick trick you into letting some random Flip you chatted over the internet waltz into your residence where you are alone and vulnerable without even vetting them in the lobby? Sex addiction can seriously impair some mongers' judgment making them disregard personal safety.
Recently, a monger using one of the dating sites popular with sex tourists made the grave error of allowing a chat mate to come up to his room without making sure things were on the level. The monger had been drinking heavily and he did not realize that the sweet young thing had a surprise for him in "her" panties until "she" rolled him over onto his stomach after a BBBJ and mounted his rear. When he felt the penetration and it dawned on him that he was not being given a digital prostate massage because he was being firmly grasped by both shoulders, he tried to dislodge his partner but due to the fact that he was elderly, inebriated, in poor physical condition and pinned down his efforts proved futile. His date had his way with him and, as if that was not enough, departed with all the cash from his wallet.
Later, the distraught monger recounted the harrowing ordeal. When asked why he did not report the incident to security and make a police report he just gave a wry look and asked, "What good would that do? Filipino newspapers love to publish the names of foreigners. " The LB was probably counting on this reaction to get away with the crime in spite of all the CCTV cameras and security in the building. The victim was at least convinced to go to the hospital to seek HIV retroviral treatment but he will have to do HIV tests for the next year before he is in the clear along with psychiatric treatment. Needless to say this all may have been avoided if he wasn't too lazy to go down to the lobby to check out his visitor and laid off the liquor before the date. Manila is not Disneyland. Horny sex tourists fishing for sex online can easily find that the supposedly harmless mackerel hauled into their boat is actually a great white shark with a mean appetite.
Lazy mongers who can't be bothered to take basic security precautions should stick to the bars at P. Burgos and EDSA where the screening is done for them. The 6-8 K PHP premium could well be insurance against an unforgettable night of regret.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1586378]Recently, a monger using one of the dating sites popular with sex tourists made the grave error of allowing a chat mate to come up to his room without making sure things were on the level. The monger had been drinking heavily and he did not realize that the sweet young thing had a surprise for him in "her" panties until "she" rolled him over onto his stomach after a BBBJ and mounted his rear. When he felt the penetration and it dawned on him that he was not being given a digital prostate massage because he was being firmly grasped by both shoulders, he tried to dislodge his partner but due to the fact that he was elderly, inebriated, in poor physical condition and pinned down his efforts proved futile. His date had his way with him and, as if that was not enough, departed with all the cash from his wallet.[/QUOTE]Both informative and hilarious report. I agree it's always a good idea to meet the girl downstairs instead of giving her your room number. There may be a number of reasons you want to send her home, not the least of which is packing a penis.
There does however seem to be a market for these LB's. Anyone who ever sits by the rail of Phillies Sports Bar on Fields Ave in AC can see a cadre of these fruitcakes with nuts. The johns are usually Arabs and Frenchmen but you do sometimes see the otherwise normal guy waltzing up to one of these freaks and then off to the room they go to take a walk on the wild side. Disgusting.
[QUOTE=ScreamingBeaver;1586913]Both informative and hilarious report. I agree it's always a good idea to meet the girl downstairs instead of giving her your room number. There may be a number of reasons you want to send her home, not the least of which is packing a penis.
There does however seem to be a market for these LB's. Anyone who ever sits by the rail of Phillies Sports Bar on Fields Ave in AC can see a cadre of these fruitcakes with nuts. The johns are usually Arabs and Frenchmen but you do sometimes see the otherwise normal guy waltzing up to one of these freaks and then off to the room they go to take a walk on the wild side. Disgusting.[/QUOTE]
There are no Johns in the PI (only mongers) and mongers who fuck LBs want something different, that's all. If they want to get fucked in the ass so what, maybe it feels good. I don't have any money on it. Who gives a fuck?
Live and let live brah!
Just keep the LBs off Fields so I don't have to see those disgusting fucks. LOL.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1586378]Don't let them in! Mongers using social media to lure unsuspecting nubile Filipinas into their lairs, be it hotel room or condo, may be in for a wicked surprise. You would not let a stranger come into your hotel room in San Francisco or New York City without first checking them out at a safe location. So, why would you let your dick trick you into letting some random Flip you chatted over the internet waltz into your residence where you are alone and vulnerable without even vetting them in the lobby? Sex addiction can seriously impair some mongers' judgment making them disregard personal safety.
Recently, a monger using one of the dating sites popular with sex tourists made the grave error of allowing a chat mate to come up to his room without making sure things were on the level. The monger had been drinking heavily and he did not realize that the sweet young thing had a surprise for him in "her" panties until "she" rolled him over onto his stomach after a BBBJ and mounted his rear. When he felt the penetration and it dawned on him that he was not being given a digital prostate massage because he was being firmly grasped by both shoulders, he tried to dislodge his partner but due to the fact that he was elderly, inebriated, in poor physical condition and pinned down his efforts proved futile. His date had his way with him and, as if that was not enough, departed with all the cash from his wallet.
Later, the distraught monger recounted the harrowing ordeal. When asked why he did not report the incident to security and make a police report he just gave a wry look and asked, "What good would that do? Filipino newspapers love to publish the names of foreigners. " The LB was probably counting on this reaction to get away with the crime in spite of all the CCTV cameras and security in the building. The victim was at least convinced to go to the hospital to seek HIV retroviral treatment but he will have to do HIV tests for the next year before he is in the clear along with psychiatric treatment. Needless to say this all may have been avoided if he wasn't too lazy to go down to the lobby to check out his visitor and laid off the liquor before the date. Manila is not Disneyland. Horny sex tourists fishing for sex online can easily find that the supposedly harmless mackerel hauled into their boat is actually a great white shark with a mean appetite.
Lazy mongers who can't be bothered to take basic security precautions should stick to the bars at P. Burgos and EDSA where the screening is done for them. The 6-8 K PHP premium could well be insurance against an unforgettable night of regret.[/QUOTE]Cheap ass got his bargain basement freebie! He didn't realize it was his that was free and then sum.
[QUOTE=Socker;1587082]There are no Johns in the PI (only mongers) and mongers who fuck LBs want something different, that's all. If they want to get fucked in the ass so what, maybe it feels good. I don't have any money on it. Who gives a fuck?
Live and let live brah!
Just keep the LBs off Fields so I don't have to see those disgusting fucks. LOL.[/QUOTE]Sorry Socker, I give a shit. So how do you like fucking a girl, who was just fucked by a guy, who fucked a LB bareback yesterday?
If a monger is gay and only fucks LB's, then to each their own, but crossing back and forth and not using protection puts a lot of people at risk.
[QUOTE=Robbaf;1587528]Sorry Socker, I give a shit. So how do you like fucking a girl, who was just fucked by a guy, who fucked a LB bareback yesterday?
If a monger is gay and only fucks LB's, then to each their own, but crossing back and forth and not using protection puts a lot of people at risk.[/QUOTE]I said nothing about bareback sex. I said nothing about switching from straight to gay sex.
I just said there are no Johns in the PI and if guys want to chase LBs I don't give a shit.
That's all bro. I was being a little bit of a smart ass in my delivery. Well I guess that's about it.
Have a nice day.
So just a quick question. I've only been to P. Burgos area in Makati, and I've only explored that one strip (the one where it starts with Moulin Rouge and ends with the Ringside Bar across the street).
I've heard about the other places such as Ermita, Angels City, EDSA. How does P. Burgos compare to those other places? I'd like to know in terms of:
Prices.
Girls.
Types of places there.
Activities in the clubs.
For reference, my experiences from P. Burgos gogo bars are fairly interesting. I've visited about 4 places there:
Bottoms: Nice, fun, good looking girls for the most part, but they can get catty and give dagger eyes if you go back and don't pick them again.
Tickles: Also nice, smaller, girls seem wilder, but also pushier for tips and such.
Moulin Rouge: Biggest of the places I've been, but the girls aren't good at all. Got a drink, finished it and left.
Dimples: Just horrible. It looks seedy, run down, and girls are terrible. Got a drink that I couldn't even finish because the place looked so bad.
Price wise the places all kinda seemed the same. If you want to actually have fun with a girl for a good couple of hours it will cost about 3.5 k. I've gone wild in Bottoms before and spent around 21 k, but to be honest not much difference when you are trying to conserve money vs just deciding to blow it, except that you are more drunk.
Fellow Mongers,
After my Jakarta and Hong Kong (Sunday morning / afternoon) experiences business brought me back to Manila. I have been many times to MBC and always stayed in the Pan Pacific nearby. Girls in MBC are cheap and of various natures however I rarely found a stunner there, speaking honestly only one: Her name was April.
Sometimes we picked-up girls in the MBC but usually my buddy and myself prefer to go to the disco Zzyzx, a 3 minutes ride away from the MBC. Right after we were in we were always asking for bottle service. Which gave us usually a good table spot and an initial attention of some girls. Inviting girls for drinks brings you the rest of the success -.
Try your luck and keep me posted!
[QUOTE=Coolica;1589047]So just a quick question. I've only been to P. Burgos area in Makati, and I've only explored that one strip (the one where it starts with Moulin Rouge and ends with the Ringside Bar across the street).
I've heard about the other places such as Ermita, Angels City, EDSA. How does P. Burgos compare to those other places? I'd like to know in terms of:
Prices.
Girls.
Types of places there.
Activities in the clubs..[/QUOTE]Coolica,
Thre is plenty of information on the board if you RTFF and typed in "EDSA", try it as the search function (RTFF) does work well.
Or why not go there find out and then FR you views and comparison FRs answering the questions you pose? - which are not quick to answer BTW as there is plenty to say about what you asked about. Look at the board, this is a great information database, far better than many of the other countries.
Hi folks,
I just got here yesterday. So far so-so, staying at MJJ suites which is an ok high rise basic studio apartment type place for around $50 per night, good pool, gym and gf etc. Went to MBC last night and found a pretty demure girl circa 25 yo or so, very nice to talk to in the bar and agreed a proper price for short time (due to my being buggered from the early start that morning) Anyway all ok until the deed, suddenly became very perfucnctuary and 'have you got condom' ' I have shower and you put condom on' WTF anyway I slowed her down a bit but still ended up with little more than brothel sex, you know where your chugging away in 3 different positions for the money and you wonder what you are doing there. Anyway 8 days left so will get lucky next time. Will go to Subic or Angeles next (can explain away Subic better to my other Mrs steve99 if she goes looking up hotels etc).
Big question here, been trying to buy some cialis or substitue but no luck so far with the chemists. Tried Mercury drug in Robinsons, a male assistant served me and then shouted out big time to the pharmasists in the dispensary, "man want Cialis' and 2 of them shouted back 'No! Perscription only' obviously a show put on for my benefit. So be warned with that particular branch. Only need the stuff when I've had a drink, and I mean one itsy bitsy tiny beer then even can get it up but can't finish the deed, not even if I have gone a week without jiggery pokery, however 5 mg of Cialis works wonders all round, my doc back home wouldn't agree to perscription. So to get to the point Where do I buy the stuff here sans perscription?, even the indian copies work well, I know a couple of places in Bangkok where they officialy have stricter laws re what they can sell any clues folks?
[QUOTE=Steve99;1593031]Big question here, been trying to buy some cialis or substitue but no luck so far with the chemists. [/QUOTE]Click Advanced search link, type "Viagra", select "Philippines", click Search, cross fingers and hocus pocus, [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1001-General-Info&p=1542803&highlight=viagra#post1542803[/url].
Just go to any off the wall clinic, tell them you want to see doctor for Cialis. Will cost 400 to 600 peso. Ask the desk first to keep them honest. Cough and say you have cold and want a Z-pack also. Now just so you know the pharmacist gives you the prescription back. Nothing saying you can not get it filled 20 times. That is how I do it rather than buy street drugs. And get the Z pak for airplane rides in the future. Get that script filled a couple time also. Good luck.
[QUOTE=Steve99;1593031]
Big question here, been trying to buy some cialis or substitue but no luck so far with the chemists. Tried Mercury drug in Robinsons, a male assistant served me and then shouted out big time to the pharmasists in the dispensary, "man want Cialis' and 2 of them shouted back 'No! Perscription only' obviously a show put on for my benefit. So be warned with that particular branch. Only need the stuff when I've had a drink, and I mean one itsy bitsy tiny beer then even can get it up but can't finish the deed, not even if I have gone a week without jiggery pokery, however 5 mg of Cialis works wonders all round, my doc back home wouldn't agree to perscription. So to get to the point Where do I buy the stuff here sans perscription?, even the indian copies work well, I know a couple of places in Bangkok where they officialy have stricter laws re what they can sell any clues folks?[/QUOTE]Steve, you can buy Robust (theres two versions, one supposedly a stronger version) which works just as well as cialis. This is freely available in every Mercury, no scrip needed.
[QUOTE=Steve99;1593031]Hi folks,
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Big question here, been trying to buy some cialis or substitue but no luck so far with the chemists. Tried Mercury drug in Robinsons, a male assistant served me and then shouted out big time to the pharmasists in the dispensary, "man want Cialis' and 2 of them shouted back 'No! Perscription only' obviously a show put on for my benefit. So be warned with that particular branch. Only need the stuff when I've had a drink, and I mean one itsy bitsy tiny beer then even can get it up but can't finish the deed, not even if I have gone a week without jiggery pokery, however 5 mg of Cialis works wonders all round, my doc back home wouldn't agree to perscription. So to get to the point Where do I buy the stuff here sans perscription?, even the indian copies work well, I know a couple of places in Bangkok where they officialy have stricter laws re what they can sell any clues folks?[/QUOTE]Tried sending you a PM regarding location. Pay up a membership? You've been posting (not often) since 2009. If you can afford to travel and play, you can afford a membership here to ask questions.
Time to find a new doc who will give you a script. Also, you can buy the stuff online and have it delivered to your home prior to your trip.
[quote=steve99;1593031]hi folks,
i just got here yesterday. so far so-so, staying at mjj suites which is an ok high rise basic studio apartment type place for around $50 per night, good pool, gym and gf etc.
big question here, been trying to buy some cialis or substitue but no luck so far with the chemists. [/quote]i endorse wc's recommendation: stock up with generics before you travel. i recently got 20 cialis (20 mg) and 4 "bonus" viagra (50 mg) for about $2 (us) apiece, including shipping. price per pill is cheaper with larger numbers. they arrive in a non-descript package with a generic sender's address. i had them mailed to work to keep them out of view of the ball and chain. the indian generic levitra and cialis that i have bought in the past seems to work well, and they are so much cheaper than the name brand. the generic viagra that h describes as available in manila comes out to 140 pesos each, or about $3. 25. but it's not a bad price considering you get immediate delivery. if you are anywhere near robinson's place mall, try the star pharmacy in the front of robinson's supermarket. in my experience they ask fewer questions about prescriptions than at mercury. i recall that they have various other locations too. generic pharmacy, which h describes, really is widely available.
how about giving us a hotel review in the manila hotel thread? are you sure it's not jmm rather than mjj? anyway, details are helpful beyond what you already described. you might be able to win back some peer approval that you lost when wc discovered you're not a paying member.
For those of use a little older than a 'spring chickn', I have had experience with testosterone and find it helpful in many ways. Just a suggestion.
[QUOTE=FredGold;1593603]For those of use a little older than a 'spring chickn', I have had experience with testosterone and find it helpful in many ways. Just a suggestion.[/QUOTE]Just make sure you get a supervised blood test and ask your doctor for the specific dose.
Self medicating with testosterone can seriously f*k up your prostate system.
It's not like taking a V or C pill every so often.
Remember that most guys over 60 have got some form of prostate problem, even if it is in very early stages, and rarely does it actually kill them. Loading up on T is a quick way to tip the system out of balance.
You are 100% correct and I should have added that caution. It is not to be taken lightly. I had gotten an Rx for Testim, a small tube with a small, measured dosage. In the USA it is considered a controlled drug and the doc can not 'call in' the Rx, but rather it must be issued in a hard copy. Each script can be written / filled for a maximum of 3 months. If you get a 3 month script and only fill 1 month. Your SOL. The 2 unfilled months are lost and you must get a new one.
In terms of prostate cancer, I highly recommend getting a yearly exam. If caught early enough, it is highly treatable and curable. Early being the operative word!! I get a colonoscopy every three years and while poking around I always ask for my yearly exam then. It's less of a nuisance.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;1593607]Just make sure you get a supervised blood test and ask your doctor for the specific dose.
Self medicating with testosterone can seriously f*k up your prostate system.
It's not like taking a V or C pill every so often.
Remember that most guys over 60 have got some form of prostate problem, even if it is in very early stages, and rarely does it actually kill them. Loading up on T is a quick way to tip the system out of balance.[/QUOTE]
reluctantly manila for two days prior to flying down to dipolog on business. my hotel is right across the road from the infamous edsa complex. never bothered with it but curiosity finally got the best of me.
looks seedy on the outside especially in the day time. lots of neon advertising different named bars. i walk in through the single entrance. gaggles of koreans looking intense (do these dudes ever smile or relax? they look very tourists doing golf swings & trying not to make eye contact with others.
i'm not given any choice, very politely but firmly guided down to the left hand end to something called samba. obviously the rk's don't want us whiteys touching their primo stock.
i enter, music at reasonable volume, 20 odd girls in skimpy bikinis. all range from nice to very nice indeed facially. all have bikini bodies. i'd shag any of them.
i give big smile & wave to the ladies, grab a sml & get comfy.
the place is not busy, a hand full of dour old caucasians sitting on a drink alone rep001tered around. why do these guys bother? they don't engage the girls or appear to enjoy themselves at all?
my primary survey complete i do my secondary survey looking for the girl who picks me. two cuties are majorly interested, the smaller of the two simply cannot be ignored. she practically leaps off the stage, i already know this is going to be a good night.
after some chit chat & bonding she's asking me if i'd like to take her out. hell yes. we get up & have a little fun dancing in the bar to liven things up. an rk bar manager is screaming something at the dancers. the girl tells me he's ordering them to dance & smile. they completely ignore him as only pinay's can.
a cute massage girl dressed in smock i slipped p500 & promised to come back for her another time.
so now the bill shock. bar manager demands p1950 bar fine + p4000 for the girl all payable in advance in the bar.
i know some of you guy's are gagging & reaching for the keyboard.
in the interests if field research i take one for the team & pay up.
we grab a taxi to drop off her bag at my hotel & then head for exclusiv an upmarket disco / night club. on the way she asks when i'm back in town & volunteers to miss a shift to give me a freeby next week. shit we only in the cab 5 minutes!
we arrive at exclusiv early, no point being a shy little cheap charlie, i pay for a good table & we get the rolls royce treatment from the staff. (at the end of the evening manager tells me i'm welcome back any time, next time table is free).
so my bf gives me full on gfe all evening, we dance drink & have a fantastic time.
we head home & after sex she spoons me cupping one breast with my hand and interlacing the fingers of my other hand with hers.
sex again in the morning, more cuddling & spooning until 10.30 am when i remind her shell be due to go back to work soon. both our phones have been blowing up with txts & miss calks.
she makes point of getting my digits & reminding me next wednesday is a freeby despite my offering to give her some 'help' even so.
yes its commercial sex, yes its not cheap by local standards but i thoroughly enjoyed my self & excited to meet her again for a full day & night of gfe gratis next time.
cheers.
av.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1593629] Yes its commercial sex, yes its not cheap by local standards but I thoroughly enjoyed my self & excited to meet her again for a full day & night of GFE gratis next time.
Cheers.
AV.[/QUOTE]Nice FR. Some of the best GFE I have had in PI has been with girls from EDSA. I keep in touch with 2 of them, good 3 some experience, and meet up with them when I go back to Manila. I haven't heard of paying the tip upfront. Did you give it to the girl or the manager? I hope the girl got all of that tip.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1593629] We head home & after sex she spoons me cupping one breast with my hand and interlacing the fingers of my other hand with hers.
Sex again in the morning, more cuddling & spooning until 10.30 am when I remind her shell be due to go back to work soon. Both our phones have been blowing up with txts & miss calks.
She makes point of getting my digits & reminding me next Wednesday is a freeby despite my offering to give her some 'help' even so.
Yes its commercial sex, yes its not cheap by local standards but I thoroughly enjoyed my self & excited to meet her again for a full day & night of GFE gratis next time.
Cheers.
AV.[/QUOTE]Yes, her GFE is probably part of a commercial offering to keep you coming back. But you gotta love it just the same. And who knows, maybe the girl also wants to feel a little intimacy from what is otherwise just a commercial transaction. In years past I had several different girls I had taken out of LAC for LT, who, after the evening deed, would wrap their lower legs around mine before falling asleep.
P4Ps in the U.S., and presumably also Oz, just don't bother with this kind of GFE, and if they do an overnighter, the cost is essentially a multiplier of their base one hour price. GFE really is different in the Phils--for a variety of reasons.
A few years ago I had a woman I took out of LAC several times. She was a single mother living somewhere in Cavite, and she was only up for ST because she needed to get a late bus back to Cavite before midnight to relieve a babysitter. She came in a couple times a week to make enough for her and the child to live on. The father of the child had long since deserted her, and other Pinoys generally avoided her because of her child. She said she wasn't having any sex apart from customers at LAC. She told me that, despite the risks, she did sometimes enjoy the sex with customers, enough so that she usually began to feel horny on the bus ride into the city.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1593629]Reluctantly Manila for two days prior to flying down to Dipolog on business. My hotel is right across the road from the infamous EDSA complex. Never bothered with it but curiosity finally got the best of me.
Looks seedy on the outside especially in the day time. Lots of neon advertising different named bars. I walk in through the single entrance. Gaggles of Koreans looking intense (do these dudes ever smile or relax? They look very tourists doing golf swings & trying not to make eye contact with others.
I'm not given any choice, very politely but firmly guided down to the left hand end to something called Samba. Obviously the RK's don't want us whiteys touching their primo stock.
I enter, music at reasonable volume, 20 odd girls in skimpy bikinis. All range from nice to very nice indeed facially. All have bikini bodies. I'd shag any of them.
After some chit chat & bonding she's asking me if I'd like to take her out. Hell yes. We get up & have a little fun dancing in the bar to liven things up. An RK bar manager is screaming something at the dancers. The girl tells me he's ordering them to dance & smile. They completely ignore him as only Pinay's can.
So now the bill shock. Bar manager demands P1950 bar fine + P4000 for the girl all payable in advance in the bar.I know some of you guy's are gagging & reaching for the keyboard.
In the interests if field research I take one for the team & pay up.
We grab a taxi to drop off her bag at my hotel & then head for Exclusiv an upmarket disco / night club. On the way she asks when I'm back in town & volunteers to miss a shift to give me a freeby next week. Shit we only in the cab 5 minutes!
Cheers.
AV.[/QUOTE]Was just at EDSA in June, and that is true, mamasans will quote you the price for the girl also. ST-3000 LT-4000. The barfine I have never been able to negotiate, but I always tell the mamasan that what I pay the girl is between her and me. They have always said, "OK". Most girls are ok with 3000 for all night. Some say 2,500. I did take a girl from Samba for 2 nights (went back and barfined again the second night, cause I did not know how she would be on the first night) and got huge discount the second night.
Incidentally, will be back in Manila (EDSA) in November. Anyone want me to check on their EDSA girlfriends?
[QUOTE=FLT09;1593687]Nice FR. Some of the best GFE I have had in PI has been with girls from EDSA. I keep in touch with 2 of them, good 3 some experience, and meet up with them when I go back to Manila. I haven't heard of paying the tip upfront. Did you give it to the girl or the manager? I hope the girl got all of that tip.[/QUOTE]It was put to me that this had to be paid on the spot in the bar. Maybe they lose too many girls due to cheap Charlie's & creeps underpaying at the conclusion of the EWR?
I'm not one for haggling the price of sex. I feel it puts the girl in a, shall we say, less generous frame of mind. For me its a buy / don't buy.
I queried the girl both in bar & again next morning as to whether she would be getting all the P4000. She confirmed that was the case.
She kept going on apologeticalky about expensive the EWR was. She asked when I was back in town & declared that Wednesday was not her day off but happy to throw a shift to give us all day & night. Very clearly stated this gratis & refused to discuss compensation. "No need".
This is not due to my rugged good looks or sexual prowess. Its a Pinoy sense of fairness & she enjoys our outings. Simple. I'm not going to abuse her generosity.
BTW I slipped her a blue note tip at the end of the EWR. Yes I know its over the odds but people practice tipping here & if you understand it they look at you in a different light. Being around someone who tips properly generously is a big prestige thing for them.
Next weeks freeby significantly cuts my outlay / investment in this girl. Mongering is a rich mans sport none the less.
Cheers.
AV.
I sometimes forget that others may not know about these places. I arrived early at Exclusiv with my Samba girl. Many of the paid tables were populated with pouting texting freelance eye candy. Prices start at P4000 as far as I know. Never bothered with them but girlfriends tell me all I need for Intel.
Cheers.
AV.
My EDSA experiences have been good. The first girl I BF in Phil was from EDSA, the girl I referred to last time. The next trip I went to EDSA and she ran up to me right away. I ended up with her and her friend without paying BF as they met me in my hotel when their shift was over. Waiting is not a problem for me as I usually stay out late barhopping. I just head back to Burgos and have fun with the girls in the bar until I am ready to head back to the hotel.
Each time I have been to EDSA I have paid a 2 k tip, always negotiated down. I might get an edge being a younger guy, of maybe I just pick the right girls. I have only once passed on a girl that refused to move off her 5 k asking price. She was young and a complete stunner though. The little spinner type that I prefer, still regret not ponying up.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1593814]I sometimes forget that others may not know about these places. I arrived early at Exclusiv with my Samba girl. Many of the paid tables were populated with pouting texting freelance eye candy. Prices start at P4000 as far as I know. Never bothered with them but girlfriends tell me all I need for Intel.
Cheers.
AV.[/QUOTE]Was that P4000 consumable? I have been trying to get some idea of table prices at the clubs leading up to my next visit.
[QUOTE=FLT09;1593865]Was that P4000 consumable? I have been trying to get some idea of table prices at the clubs leading up to my next visit.[/QUOTE]Ah sorry mate, I confused you. Tables at Exclusiv are only P1500 consumable. Spend up, behave nicely & throw some tips around, you'll be a VIP next time. Meaning table free & red carpet treatment. At least that's how its been for me.
I was referring to the free lancers infesting the place from early in the evening. Tons of them. I let you mongers in on a little secret diba?
Plenty of up market clubs in Manila full of eye candy for hire. Nice change of venue for guys tired of usual monger haunts.
[URL]http://manilaclubbing.com[/URL]
AV.
I'm still waiting for CaliAmateur's November field reports on the Manila clubs. He was going to dazzle all of us on how its done on under 500 php.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1593887]I'm still waiting for CaliAmateur's November field reports on the Manila clubs. He was going to dazzle all of us on how its done on under 500 php.[/QUOTE]He is too busy berating people in the Seoul forum for partaking in any type of p4 p.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1593884]Ah sorry mate, I confused you. Tables at Exclusiv are only P1500 consumable. Spend up, behave nicely & throw some tips around, you'll be a VIP next time. Meaning table free & red carpet treatment. At least that's how its been for me.
I was referring to the free lancers infesting the place from early in the evening. Tons of them. I let you mongers in on a little secret diba?
Plenty of up market clubs in Manila full of eye candy for hire. Nice change of venue for guys tired of usual monger haunts.
[URL]http://manilaclubbing.com[/URL]
AV.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I definitely plan on mixing it up a bit and hitting a club or two. I checked that site out before, didn't see much for table prices and what not. Maybe I didn't look hard enough.
Ok, I wasn't looking hard enough. Getting the information I need.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1593814]I sometimes forget that others may not know about these places. I arrived early at Exclusiv with my Samba girl. Many of the paid tables were populated with pouting texting freelance eye candy. Prices start at P4000 as far as I know. Never bothered with them but girlfriends tell me all I need for Intel.
Cheers.
AV.[/QUOTE]Just add in a little info. I bang one bird quite regulary and she has her hunting grounds from the place in mention. She tells me the FL operation is a so so operation but sometimes the girls also like to get som money worth if possible. It is not a mandatory operation and all out from the normal mechanism. I hear her friends go for both 2 and 3 k LT if they like the guy. Just saying.
It is probably a tad unfair to the pinays but I donate 3 K for real LT play both in Bangkok and in Manila, hehe.
[QUOTE=FLT09;1593910]He is too busy berating people in the Seoul forum for partaking in any type of p4 p.
Thanks for the info. I definitely plan on mixing it up a bit and hitting a club or two. I checked that site out before, didn't see much for table prices and what not. Maybe I didn't look hard enough.[/QUOTE]If you want the FL'ers you'll need to get there early. They are obvious. Later in the evening the club scene people arrive en masse. At that point its impossible to tell who's who & hitting on chicks could find you lying in an alley bleeding.
AV.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1593953]If you want the FL'ers you'll need to get there early. They are obvious. Later in the evening the club scene people arrive en masse. At that point its impossible to tell who's who & hitting on chicks could find you lying in an alley bleeding.
AV.[/QUOTE]I was planning on hitting the club for a night out, bringing my own company, not scouting for FL. Thanks for the tip though, definitely something people should think about.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1593953]If you want the FL'ers you'll need to get there early. They are obvious. Later in the evening the club scene people arrive en masse. At that point its impossible to tell who's who & hitting on chicks could find you lying in an alley bleeding.
AV.[/QUOTE]You can probably get beat up from one reason or another but spotting a FL in crowded space is easy due to their use of eyes. If they "fuck you" with their eyes you can be pretty sure it is a FL or you are tremendious handsome as in you score all over the world wherever you choose to go. If they eyeball you as there is no tomorrow you can take for granted it is a Fl. Most regular pinays avoid eyecontact.
Just as a tip if the place is crowded. On the other half ofcourse it is easier to spot a FL in a empty environment.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1593884]Ah sorry mate, I confused you. Tables at Exclusiv are only P1500 consumable. Spend up, behave nicely & throw some tips around, you'll be a VIP next time. Meaning table free & red carpet treatment. At least that's how its been for me.
I was referring to the free lancers infesting the place from early in the evening. Tons of them. I let you mongers in on a little secret diba?
Plenty of up market clubs in Manila full of eye candy for hire. Nice change of venue for guys tired of usual monger haunts.
[URL]http://manilaclubbing.com[/URL]
AV.[/QUOTE]Exclusiv is very much my go-to club. It's not too high-end like Prive or Republic nor is it overrun with Koreans like Zzyzx - I should point out that these three places attract a lot of fine women. Exclusiv is mostly a Filipino crowd and that's the way I like it. The only assholes I encountered there were foreigners and on occasion a Filipino gay guy tried to be overly friendly with me. I always get a bottle of rum at approx p2000 plus mixers, and since they've stored it for me for the next time I visited I wasn't subject to any base consumable charge on the next occasion. I've had many nights there when I had a dancefloor-side table and just needed to buy a few mixers to finish off my bottle and my bill came to less than p500. I use the same waiter and I tip him generously. One night I did have a different waiter who, after bringing me my stored bottle, told me that there was a p2000 consumable charge. I objected and he relented. So keep in mind the drinking-while-white scam may happen. There are FLs there and, fair warning, this includes ladyboys - for a period of several weeks the hottest FL "girl" was a stunning LB and she was always picking up foreign blokes. When I go clubbing I like to bring a girl with me, and when I go to the CR have encountered girls giving me the hard FL eye and chatting me up. One night I came back to my table and found a t-bird lesbian was hitting on my girl. I don't go there til after 1 am and then just the weekends. I tried a couple of weeknights and it was typically dead. Filipino paydays changes this.
If you want to make a night of it in the immediate area first catch a live band at Bellagio Square (on weekends) or Cowboy Grill (any night) and then go to Exclusiv later.
My last visit to the Phills it seemed like I was hemoraging money for ladydrinks on girls who either were cherrygirls, it was "that time of month", they "dance only", or some other bs like they had foriegn bf and only barfined to go bar hoping but no sex.
They seemed shocked that I didn't know this before asking to buy them a drink. How are you supposed to know? I notice some have special sashes or they dressed different. Waitresses were little help as they would insist all the girls I asked about were available for sex.
Got me a little discouraged. I am considered attractive by local standards. Seemed like a Manila thing, the only problem I had in Angelos City was not being Korean. Seems the stunners at some bars will only leave with Korean customers. Did not have that problem at Crystal Palace or Tropix so mainly pulled from there.
Still, it happened now and again and I would prefer not to waste money on lady drinks I do not have to.
Also, on my return thru Manilla I hit up AKB48 KTV and the other KTVs around there. All girls at these clubs seemed to indicate no sex was possible with any of the girls. But I find that unlikely. The girls there were very fine mostly and maybe I was aproaching the wrong girls?
[QUOTE=Amavida;1593884]Ah sorry mate, I confused you. Tables at Exclusiv are only P1500 consumable. Spend up, behave nicely & throw some tips around, you'll be a VIP next time. Meaning table free & red carpet treatment. At least that's how its been for me.
I was referring to the free lancers infesting the place from early in the evening. Tons of them. I let you mongers in on a little secret diba?
Plenty of up market clubs in Manila full of eye candy for hire. Nice change of venue for guys tired of usual monger haunts.
[URL]http://manilaclubbing.com[/URL]
AV.[/QUOTE]The [URL]manilaclubbing.com[/URL] link is excellent. Not for those on a budget, that's for sure. But it always helps to be knowledgeable. Last trip I was so busy hunting for women I did not even notice that the Palladium was in my hotel (New World Hotel).
[QUOTE=MrHawaii;1594136]The [URL]manilaclubbing.com[/URL] link is excellent. Not for those on a budget, that's for sure. But it always helps to be knowledgeable. Last trip I was so busy hunting for women I did not even notice that the Palladium was in my hotel (New World Hotel).[/QUOTE]Fuck everything here in MNL is cheap, realy cheap. Words out there. Known hotels can be simulare to western standards, that's it.
[QUOTE=TheIceKing;1594126]
Got me a little discouraged. I am considered attractive by local standards. [/QUOTE]With no disrespect to your obvious handsumness (sic), in the words of WR, as soon as we get off that plane we all become Brad Pitts younger brother.
[QUOTE=TheIceKing;1594126]My last visit to the Phills it seemed like I was hemoraging money for ladydrinks on girls who either were cherrygirls, it was "that time of month", they "dance only", or some other bs like they had foriegn bf and only barfined to go bar hoping but no sex.
They seemed shocked that I didn't know this before asking to buy them a drink. How are you supposed to know? I notice some have special sashes or they dressed different. Waitresses were little help as they would insist all the girls I asked about were available for sex.
Got me a little discouraged. I am considered attractive by local standards. Seemed like a Manila thing, the only problem I had in Angelos City was not being Korean. Seems the stunners at some bars will only leave with Korean customers. Did not have that problem at Crystal Palace or Tropix so mainly pulled from there.
Still, it happened now and again and I would prefer not to waste money on lady drinks I do not have to.
Also, on my return thru Manilla I hit up AKB48 KTV and the other KTVs around there. All girls at these clubs seemed to indicate no sex was possible with any of the girls. But I find that unlikely. The girls there were very fine mostly and maybe I was aproaching the wrong girls?[/QUOTE]I think you're sincere so I'll try to be helpful without being judgmental ok? Don't take this the wrong way ok?
Two things stand out about your post. Firstly you complain about the cost of lady drinks. Yes they are overpriced watered down (taste their drink compared to the one severed to you) rip off but in yiur home country currency the cist is nothing. Seriously, if you can't afford to throw a little money around in the bar then change venue to dating site girls.
Secondly, you talk about stunners. In this country the wealthy & well connected get all the top shelf stuff. If aren't rich & well connected then you can look on from the side lines. Don't waste your time. Occasionally you may get lucky but rare.
There are plenty of pretty girls who will rock your world.
If you go in p4 p venues be nice, throw a little money around & take the girl who picks you.
You're doing it wrong.
Cheers.
AV.
[QUOTE=TheIceKing;1594126]I am considered attractive by local standards. [/QUOTE]What does that reallllly mean?
Your bulging wallet? Your engaging personality? Your brilliantly blue eyes? Your massive height? Your dashing good looks?
If you think it's the latter then verify whether the compliment is genuine or not; upload your photos to a hot-or-not website and view the scores a few days later. If you're scoring 7 or better you're good looking. If not... shift fire.
Since you by your own admission were "haemorrhaging" money on drinks where's the incentive for the girl to accept the barfine? With you she's already earning her keep, and perhaps even more, sitting right there in the bar. Drinking. And drinking. And drinking. That's easy work.
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1594235]What does that reallllly mean?
Your bulging wallet? Your engaging personality? Your brilliantly blue eyes? Your massive height? Your dashing good looks?[/QUOTE]I think that also describes me Hutsori LOL. As FF said, when we get off the plane we are Brad Pitt. But I am the original Brad Pitt in the Philippines please note LOL.
Seriously spending lots on lady drinks does mean the girl ahs no incentive and maybe like some other mongers from the past the person himself has too much to drink and the girls don't really want a drunk. Although it would be a possible way to earn very easy cash.
Been reading with interest about the king of ice (Iceking guy). If you not able to score from a girlybar I am sure you are not concidered attractive in the eyes of the locals. We all get this "hey handsome" thrown around all the time, just not let it get into your head as in it is true.
Many of us mongerers inside here score almost before we deplane at NAIA's arrivinggate. Handsome or not. Behaviour is a very important factor in phils dealing with girls. Probably more important than looks. Just put up your best behaviour and not this bullshit of u beeing handsome viewed by the locals.. We all are viewed attractive and in a girliebar environment the real attractivness needed is the size of your wallet(or atleast it should be). Hope u are not cheap charlie as well.
Just saying something must be terrible wrong with you. I say this with next to no exp in the girlybar environment.
If you are terrible afraid of waisting money why go in the first place (and I mean that as in why book a ticket to the phils).
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1594235]
Your bulging wallet? Your engaging personality? Your brilliantly blue eyes? Your massive height? Your dashing good looks?[/QUOTE]If you didn't mention the blue eyes, I would of thought you were talking about me. In all seriousness, heed their advice Ice.
I posted a report in the photo gallery section about my recent experience with girls I picked up from Harrison Plaza. Here is the link:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1595516&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1595516.
RG.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1595517]I posted a report in the photo gallery section about my recent experience with girls I picked up from Harrison Plaza. Here is the link:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1595516&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1595516.
RG.[/QUOTE]Just a question.
How easy it is to grab a taxi from Harrison?
BTW, regarding Glenda Typhoon, that part of Greenbelt 5 was ripped off shows how good the construction standards in Philippines is.
[QUOTE=EconoTech;1595635]Just a question.
How easy it is to grab a taxi from Harrison?
BTW, regarding Glenda Typhoon, that part of Greenbelt 5 was ripped off shows how good the construction standards in Philippines is.[/QUOTE]Very easy. The easiest place to get a taxi is the east exit (I think), the mall exit near SM department store. Just walk out and you can get a taxi in 30 seconds.
RG.
[QUOTE=TheIceKing;1594126]My last visit to the Phills it seemed like I was hemoraging money for ladydrinks on girls who either were cherrygirls, it was "that time of month", they "dance only", or some other bs like they had foriegn bf and only barfined to go bar hoping but no sex.
They seemed shocked that I didn't know this before asking to buy them a drink. How are you supposed to know? I notice some have special sashes or they dressed different. Waitresses were little help as they would insist all the girls I asked about were available for sex.
Got me a little discouraged. I am considered attractive by local standards. Seemed like a Manila thing, the only problem I had in Angelos City was not being Korean. Seems the stunners at some bars will only leave with Korean customers. Did not have that problem at Crystal Palace or Tropix so mainly pulled from there.
Still, it happened now and again and I would prefer not to waste money on lady drinks I do not have to.
Also, on my return thru Manilla I hit up AKB48 KTV and the other KTVs around there. All girls at these clubs seemed to indicate no sex was possible with any of the girls. But I find that unlikely. The girls there were very fine mostly and maybe I was aproaching the wrong girls?[/QUOTE]If you want to save money and not waste it on high priced drinks ect ect Then what you must do is have the ability to walk at the 1st sign of Bullshit coming out of a girls mouth. YOU MUST LOVE YOUR MONEY BETTER. You must love your money more then you love pussy. If you love pussy more then money it will cost you.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1595864]Very easy. The easiest place to get a taxi is the east exit (I think), the mall exit near SM department store. Just walk out and you can get a taxi in 30 seconds.
RG.[/QUOTE]Thanks, will venture out and check Harrisons on my next travel.
Did another one of my 4 to 10 days (6 days) from 12 to 17.7. 14 trips. Usual routine realy as feasting from my datingsitefleet and also my fake fb account (well the accunt is real but no info about me and only girls attached to it)is all it takes these days with very litle preparation whatsoever. Fb account is blooming but it is a living hell keeping track. Girls seem up and running on the subject though so I got a good pussy to show me how to set security level contact by contact(as in they are not beeing able to follow eachother). I have not done fixings yet so we will see how it works out. Maby need to create a new one to quite things down.
From my bucket list I managed to x off a preggy one. I have done preggy ones before but this was one unattached with me in almost every way(only one previous dinner). A real nice girl. Today I understand her better as in she did not want to join my room for a steamy session while we first met(this rarly happens with my datingsite girls so she stood out from the crowd). It was some days later she admitted she was 6 months pregnant (she wore baggy dress so I blame my screening on our first encounter for not seeing this). Anyway she is a great looking girl and extremely hot by almost every standards but are beeing stood up by her run away pinoy ofcourse. She told me I WAS A PRETTY NICE GUY so she realy wanted to meet me again but she realy understood if I did not want to due to her pregnancie. I used this for what it was worth and shipped in a modes request how exiting it would be to me to have sex with a preggy girl. She responded in a way that most likely this would be ok. All good.
I did have to give it some thoughts though but while feet on phil soil and some fucking around my horniness arosed to high levels and as from a porn movie I suddenly felt the urge to play her pregginess.
Actually we did the typhoon Glenda fuck. She was supposed to leave for work the next morning but luckely her employer told her to stay home. Lucky me I could do her even more times. It is funny when something relatively new, outside the standard routine, shows up. The level of horniness and ability to go multiple rounds seems not to stop. 2 or 3(not popping everytime ofcourse)seems to be the usual deal these days(getting lazy and picky i guess and maby even older damn it). Anyway She lived up to the saying preggy ones are extremely horny. Will take some time to forget this still good looking spinner. I agreed to meet up with her after delivery at some point and I might keep that promise (if she has no stretchmark that is)so maby not forget her just yet.
The only interruption I did get was at 11 am 16.7 girl appointment showing up at the Ascott reception. This was when Glenda was still quite strong over the Ascott area (atleast debree was filling up the pool). I did forget this appointment (blured from alcohol state this has happened before and will happen again) but I could hardly think anyone would go out in such weather. But I was wrong. This is the obvious bad part dealing with girls living in Makati or close boarders and one thing to remember for the next typhoon if I am present. Quite a hick up at the reception but I manage to give her my best krap routine as in I was extremely tired and feeling sick. I think she knew what was going on but she was eventually up for a meet later in the afternoon when I gave her a text. They forgive easily lucky me.
As for the bad part from girl I did encounter on this trip. I will admit she admitted she was a tad more proffesional than girls I usual encounter but as long as I don't meet them out of a barenvironment is not like I am going to stand one down when she is a member of my datingsite fleet. She could tell me about beeing a member in almost every forum directed to our hobby (not only this). She admitted she was a member in most of them to follow what was coocking and if pics of her were displayed. Punters had informed her. Must be these "save a ho" punters. Thinking they are better than the rest and so they do it for good karma, haha. Well, so if you read this, no pics will be displayed from your beautiful spinning body. It was a great FIFA world cup party though, hehe. It seems more and more girls know guys have a place where we share intel and brag. That is a damn shame realy.
I have many pics from this and previous trips but as I am no sitting in Doha airport this is not time or place to do so. They need some fixing anyway. I admit i would realy enjoyed if this forum did have some high level of security only real contributors as in field trips, posting intel etc. Probably something for the admins but that anyone just browsing without even membership can look at pics is realy to my liking as in whats written previous in this report..
Anyone know if the club Icon is still open in Makati? If so how is it doing?
[QUOTE=Slippery;1593887]I'm still waiting for CaliAmateur's November field reports on the Manila clubs. He was going to dazzle all of us on how its done on under 500 php.[/QUOTE]What would you like to know exactly?
Exklusiv is a nice medium range club. Had great results there.
Cowboy Grill is a good time. Bring a date though.
MBC is good for a beer or two shitting the breeze before heading else where.
Zzxyz is fun but the girls seem alittle too hardcore about their money and freelancing.
Quezon City is the best place to party in my opinion. Hardly no foreigners and tons of cute girls. My favorite club there is Excess.
Anyone that is interested in a summer 2014 Manila nightlife guide or trip report PM me.
[QUOTE=CaliPro;1596907]What would you like to know exactly?
Exklusiv is a nice medium range club. Had great results there.
Cowboy Grill is a good time. Bring a date though.
MBC is good for a beer or two shitting the breeze before heading else where.
Zzxyz is fun but the girls seem alittle too hardcore about their money and freelancing.
Quezon City is the best place to party in my opinion. Hardly no foreigners and tons of cute girls. My favorite club there is Excess.[/QUOTE]None of that information is new and can be easily found on the web, blogs or even ISG as much of this was in FRs recently. Less than 500 pesos is what Sippery was referring to and we are still waiting.
Also if you know the club scene so well (as referenced by your FR on 2014 Manila nightlife guide then why ask about Icon as surely you should know this as you have a 2014 nightlife guide (and the answer can easily be found in abut 10 second or less).
[QUOTE=CaliPro;1597193]Anyone that is interested in a summer 2014 Manila nightlife guide or trip report PM me.[/QUOTE]How generic. Don't become a travel writer and give up your day job. Do we have to pay for the PM and trip report? Why can't you just put it out on the board to share with everybody?
[QUOTE=CaliPro;1596631]Anyone know if the club Icon is still open in Makati? If so how is it doing?[/QUOTE]Perhaps a call to the InterCon Makati would help answer the questions so can you do that and let everyone know? But you have the 2014 Manila nightlife guide, not to be confused with a recent FR on Manila clubs (a web link that a member posted).
Let us know the answer please as be interested as some of us go to Makati a lot. The link to the hotel is below.
[URL]https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/InterContinental[/URL]+Manila / at 14.5505959,121.0288513,18 z / data=!4 m2!3 m1!1 s0 x0:0 xd32 a9 dcc3 ac874 ca.[/URL]
The telephone number is there but this maybe a tad expensive from Korea where you live?
I do know the answer, those that really want to know can PM me but am sure most of know already so am not expecting a rush of PMs on this.
Odd also that a member blocks another from responding to his posts but there are ways CaliPro even if you never read them or see them LOL.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1597214]How generic. Don't become a travel writer and give up your day job. Do we have to pay for the PM and trip report? Why can't you just put it out on the board to share with everybody?[/QUOTE]And of course Amavida did post this link to clubs. See the prices, but hard to enter when you only can spend 500 pesos a day. The tables at Rebubliq are expensive even during weekdays. Drinks I know are very pricey at these clubs as I have visited them with friends.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1007-Manila&p=1597214&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1597214.
So am not sure how an aspiring travel writer can succeed without trying all the clubs unless he asks lots of question and culls it all together and says this is an 'original' work.
Be careful Slippery as Cali may place you on the Ignore List as well as you have been too cheeky in a FR reply to him and have not recognized his wit and satire.
[QUOTE=CaliPro;1596631]Anyone know if the club Icon is still open in Makati? If so how is it doing?[/QUOTE]There's some fella with a "summer 2014 Manila nightlife guide" who's offered it here to forum members. As a guide writer he's the expert, I surmise. You ought to PM him.
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1597266]There's some fella with a "summer 2014 Manila nightlife guide" who's offered it here to forum members. You ought to PM him.[/QUOTE]Sorry I couldn't check every club in Manila LOL.
And people ask my why I don't just post it here.
Philippine board is comprised mostly of.
For you other folks, feel free to PM me. Got a great 2 month play by play trip report of Manila, Cebu, Dumaguete, Bangkok, Phnom Penh, and Saigon. Along with the most complete Manila nightlife guide you will find on the net.
[QUOTE=CaliPro;1596907]What would you like to know exactly?
Exklusiv is a nice medium range club. Had great results there.
Cowboy Grill is a good time. Bring a date though.
MBC is good for a beer or two shitting the breeze before heading else where.
Zzxyz is fun but the girls seem alittle too hardcore about their money and freelancing.
Quezon City is the best place to party in my opinion. Hardly no foreigners and tons of cute girls. My favorite club there is Excess.[/QUOTE]I would say that the first four of your observations cover very, very, very, very well-known places. Not really trailblazing there, and the dearth of detail doesn't make an entertaining read. The QC info has good potential because the QC thread is amongst the most unloved here. You ought to focus on that. Could be your niche.
[QUOTE=CaliPro;1597269]Sorry I couldn't check every club in Manila LOL.
And people ask my why I don't just post it here.
Philippine board is comprised mostly of.
For you other folks, feel free to PM me. Got a great 2 month play by play trip report of Manila, Cebu, Dumaguete, Bangkok, Phnom Penh, and Saigon. Along with the most complete Manila nightlife guide you will find on the net.[/QUOTE]Post it on ISG CaliPro, don't tease us, as you asked if Icon is open when we all know the answer (so how can it be complete without knowledge of Icon?) and you have a blow by blow account of the top class pensions and food at under 100 pesos a day in many cities, plus sharing all the hot chick contacts of course with photos just to make sure they are all kosher.
If you do that there is credibility but asking people to PM you for something you have merely culled from the web and ISG members FRs is a little daft and'est pas?
What word was missing from you FR (redacted) - seems like once again you pushed the boundaries by saying most of us on ISG are something bad. If you feel that go to other boards where you play and offer the same information and call them the same words and see the reply, the flood of PMs.
As you as said under you previous now banned handle, you think most are losers as we don't think you are for real as a 28 year old stud who stays in pensions, visits high priced clubs where cokes cost more than your daily budget, ask ISG members where to buy Cialis (at your age really? And has no idea if Icon is open or closed means you can't be taken seriously until to FR you experiences (rather than ask questions as you did once again on the Indonesia board).
Give and take is something many write about but so far you take, never give, and then complain and when some complain that you promise lots but always disappoint. Likely same with all the hot chicks you claim to have porked but again, we don't see any photos of these hot chicks.
So we are still waiting and the lament will always be the same until you run a series of FRs on the relevant threads.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1597472]What word was missing from you FR (redacted) - seems like once again you pushed the boundaries by saying most of us on ISG are something bad. If you feel that go to other boards where you play and offer the same information and call them the same words and see the reply, the flood of PMs.[/QUOTE]Sadly he has ruterned under his Paisadash nick on a different Phil forum for addicts with same boring shit bragging like a mr know it all that in fact knows almost nothing claiming to be a world traveller. My guess would be his internetconnection is back on track from his hideout in his moms basement.
So we better hide all our girls out of sight before Calipro aka Paisadash picks them up, treat them his best Jolli meal and the coldest 7/11 act and fucks them to the milkyway and back. This as in a more than heavinly experience to the girls that they rather pay him to have
According to himself on the other forum he is doing his pregaming in LAC to get in the mood.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1597472]Post it on ISG CaliPro, don't tease us, as you asked if Icon is open when we all know the answer (so how can it be complete without knowledge of Icon?) and you have a blow by blow account of the top class pensions and food at under 100 pesos a day in many cities, plus sharing all the hot chick contacts of course with photos just to make sure they are all kosher.[/QUOTE]He has no intention of posting the guide here. If you PM'd him he would simply direct you to his new website / blog. His blog at present, has 2 articles / guides which are very short and extremely basic and sketchy. Not worth reading. But obviously he has big plans for the future.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1597568] My guess would be his internet connection is back on track from his hideout in his moms basement...Calipro [/QUOTE]LOL you guys are are too funny! Perhaps the lad's journeys are all figments of his imagination!
Ikksman,
Very short and basic? Lmao Both over 1,000 word articles.
Please tell me where I can find a more complete Manila nightlife guide on the net. I would love to see it.
Even the main website dedicated (#1 in google) to Manila nightlife (manilaclubbingdotcom) is doesn't have all the clubs I cover.
LOL at short and basic.
I searched on here and didn't see my FR from my Feb 13' trip.
Trip Report.
Quick Overview.
4 Days.
6 Lays.
1st Day.
Arrived in Manila at 12 pm and was off to my hotel in Makati (One Greenbelt Hotel). Quick word of advice, don't get a taxi from the workers directly when you walk out, go down the the road a bit and get a regular one. The charged me 500 pesos which is double what it should cost. Anyways get to the hotel go to grab a SIM card and some load. I got 100 pesos worth a load a day. After getting my phone set up I decided I buy a few Andros pills which is the local equivalent to Cialis at Mercury Drug across from my hotel. I had never used any ED medicine before but figured what the hell I would try it out. If you do this don't take a whole pill, only half. So after getting everything I needed I started to send out texts from the phone list I amassed before arriving. Some girls don't respond, others are working, ect. To make it worse I can't remb half of them. One girl is free to come meet me. We link up in Glorietta Mall. She is a cute chick (hb7) that looked to innocent for my liking. Got some icecream and told her lets go back to my place to watch a movie. She hesitantly agrees. I am not feeling good about this one and my intuitions where right. Get her back and she puts up some decent LMR. I am not use to day game and sober chicks, I'm an all nightgame guy pulling chicks from the club that I know are DTF. I give up on this chick and tell her some BS as to why I have to go somewhere. Send out a few more texts but decided to just focus on the night. Around 7 pm I head over to Malate to pregame at MBC (Manila Bay Cafe) the world renowned freelance bar before heading out to the discos. I get to talking to a cute waitress which I will hangout with almost every night on my trip. After having some beers, shooting pool, and flirting I bounce back to Greenbelt and walk to the Palladium. This club is pretty nice. Has a good mix of people. For some reason though most people were not dancing. After an hour I decide to bounce and go to Quezon City. I knew Quezon City is where its at in Manila as no tourists go there and to top it off its has a big party scene around Tomas Morato / Quezon Memorial Circle. I get into this club called Space and start dancing with these 2 girls. Its already kinda late so I don't waste much time in asking if they want to bounce. They said Makati was to far or some bs so I eject. See a cute alone making her way from the bathroom so I intercept. She is with a mixed 5 set and invites me over to their table. After making friendly with everyone I grab the girl and pull her to the dance floor. A little later I ask her if she wants to go party with me in Makati and she agrees. Before leaving I remember to pop on my my 1/2 Andros pills. Get her back to the hotel and fuck her silly all night. The Andros pill was amazing. Never been able to get rock hard erections on command that many time after a night of drinking. We had sex like 4 times. The next day she sends me a text saying how she is hurting and can't walk! Good shit.
2nd Day.
Wake up around 1 pm and send that girl off. Go and grab some food at Glorietta mall. If your at the mall go eat at this Italian place called Don Henricos. Good food and portions for the money. I send out a few texts and get some replies. I set up a dinner date with a girl for later that evening. Go back to the hotel stuffed and relax and watch some tv until 6 pm. I go and meet the girl at Glorietta and we go grab some pizza. This girl is much more playful than the one from the previous day. Some how got started talking about music and I told her about my obsession with Spanish music. I play her some tunes on my phone and tell her I can give her some personal salsa and bachata lessons back at my place which she liked. Back in the hotel, I fire up some Romeo Santos and teach her the basic steps. Good thing about bachata for those that don't know is that its a sexual dance with (can be) with you dancing interlocked (crotches). Can really turn a girl on if you know how to position your thighs. Long story short we start makingout and I close. I send this girl on her way with the (I have a work conference at X o'clock). Take a shower and head off to MBC to pregame and chat with the waitress from last night. I go upstairs this time and fuck around with the waitresses. I go back and fourth from upstairs to downstairs by the pool tables. After a few drinks and small talk I decide to head to a club called Candyshop in Quezon City. In the taxi we pass a club called Candyshop but it was empty / closed. I am like WTF as after watching some youtube videos and hearing about this place online I really wanted to go due to its reputation for having slutty chicks. The taxi driver was like maybe there is another Candyshop and goes to ask around. I knew in my head that there was only one big club in Quezon City called the Candyshop. After asking we drive back to check for certain it wasnt opening tonight. I get out the taxi and walk up to the front door. Two young guys walk and I we talk about it being closed. Some dude comes to the door and confirms it is closed. At this point I was like I will just go back to Space from the previous night. Get the taxi driver to drop me off at the main circle and I walk to Space. There is a massive line so I decide to go to Guilly's across the street. It was kinda early so there wasnt alot of people in there and I didn't see any real dance floor or people dancing. I said fuck this and remembered I wanted to hit up a club in Malate called Insomnia so I dip. Get the taxi driver to drop me off at MBC go in and have a beer and ask where is Insomnia. My waitress was gone (got off work at 12) so I chatted with some other girls but it wasnt as fun so after finishing my beer I take a trike (up the street to Insomnia. I like this place with the exception that there is to many Korean university students in there. Cheap beer at 50 pesos. Good amount of slutty chicks. I go post up at a corner on the edge of the dance floor. Group of people beside me dancing and the guy motions me to dance with this girl so I oblige. She was alright but after 2 songs I eject. Had my eye on a few sets but for some reason never open. Then later this 2 set opens me. They look mad slutty and appear to be DTF (hb6 & hb7). Dance for awhile and then I say lets get out of here. I make out with both girls in the cab ride back to the hotel and I am thinking I am about to have a 3 some. (so I thought) We get back to the hotel and I go to use the bathroom. I come out and these bitches are smoking meth on my bed! I am like WTF and in shock. I have been around a few drugs in my life but never nothing as hardcore as fucking meth. This grosses me out and I preach to them that they should not be doing that shit and that it will fuck up your life. They must hadn't been doing it long as they still looked ok (although admittedly they took a decline back in the lighted hotel LOL) I didn't feel comfortable fucking them or having meth in my hotel room so I give them cab money and politely excuse them. At this point I'm pretty pissed as it was late and I would be taking an L for the night. I should have just went back to the club and picked up some stragglers but I call it a night. Oh well.
3rd Day.
Chill at the hotel for awhile. One of the girls I pipelined was blowing me up on facebook wanting to meet so I decide to invite her over. Do the same routine (Glorietta. Lunch - hotel) She puts up no resistance. I really wish online game could be this easy in Korea! LOL Let her chill with me for awhile in the hotel watching tv ect. Later that evening I head over to Robinsons Mall in Malate. I really like this mall, lots of options walking around if day game is your thing. A funny note though there is some lady boys that hangout in the front. One of these fuckers followed me all the way up to the entrance of the mall. Told him out gate I didn't like dick but he proceeded to follow and nag me all the way to the door. You get mad stares in the Mall, more so than in Glorietta which I love. After strolling around I go get some pizza at PizzaHut. Your able to get 2 slices of pizza for 50 pesos! ($1) Cheap! After eating I walk to MBC to see my waitress again. She gets off at 12 so I ask her to go get some food with me. Some how like all the girls that got off at 12 joined us! LOL I wasnt planning on paying for 5 girls but whatever. We cram in a taxi and head to this really local style Filipino restaurant with all the plastic chairs outside ect. There were 2 right beside each other so a lot of people there eating. I liked the feel and atmosphere. Food was mad cheap. 3 of us ordered food and the others just drank. Bill came out to only 500 pesos. After eating some of the girls had to leave so I invite my girl to the Bay Walk. Get there and there is a ton of homeless people sleeping out there. We finally find a place to post up and chill looking over the bay / ocean. We hangout and talk for maybe 1. 5 hours before I ask her to come stay with me tonight which she agrees. (she better as I had been working on her for the past 3 nights) Get her back and seal the deal.
4th Day.
Me and the MBC waitress go and get lunch. She has to be back at work at 4 pm so we go ahead and part ways after lunch. Sweet girl. I send out a text to this girl I pipelined before the trip with a slamming body, she is free and agrees to meet me at Glorietta. I tell her to meet me in front of Burger King in Glorietta 4. She takes forever. I am waiting and I see a sexy girl in a black skirt and yellow sleeveless shirt walk by. I couldn't tell if that was her or not. She sends a text saying she walked by and I was like go back and wait in front. She doesn't respond right away and sends a text asking if I had on a black shirt. At this point I know she was the girl I saw walk by and I can see her posted up behind a pillar. I am like WTF is up with this chick. I decide to walk over there to her. I am like are you Sandra and she is says yea. She seems mad shy and quiet. We go and get icecream. She is so quiet talking is tedious. After finishing the icecream we walk around the mall a bit then I tell her to go back to the hotel to watch a movie. Get her back to the hotel and she is still being reserved to a point where I don't even want to try and escalate. So after awhile I am like I got to get ready to leave. At this point she was like can I get a hug, I was like what about a kiss. I lean in and we start making out. Jackpot baby. After that she turns into a freak! While I fucking her I see my phone on the bed next to her and decide to go for a video. To my surprise she doesn't say anything and lets me film! After finishing I go to meet up with the RVF crew and just have the taxi drop me off that their hotel and have the taxi take the girl to where ever she wants to go. I meet up with THC, Scotian, and 20 Nation. Scotian and 20 Nation had just got done getting there African Cameroon (sp?) flags. Got to say though Scotain gets the wingman of the decade award! Lmfao this dude lays pipe to a massive grenade. Dedication to the team and for the flag right there! He is a better man than I. So at this point I have 4,000 pesos I need to blow before my flight that night. I decide to blow it on a pro. So me and the guys walk to P. Burgos street which is known for girl bars. The first one we go into has nothing but dogs so we walk right back out. The next insnt much better but we stay and have a a beer. Scotain goes wild with one of the girls dancing and shit. Dude is a trip! At this point 20 Nation has to leave for his flight. So we head back to the hotel. We all exchange pleasantries and go our separate ways. At this point my time is running out and I need to find something fast. I remember that Cafe Havana in Greenbelt3 turns into a freelance spot at night so I head over there. Walk around looking for a suitable girl (hb7-9) to no avail. Decide to sit down at Cafe Havana and order some food. After ordering I see this fine chick alone sit down in another table across from me. I know she has to be there looking for an extra buck so I wave her over to my table. She tried to play dumb at first looking behind her like I am motioning to someone else. So I point directly at her again she she comes over. We talk for awhile and I finish my food with her help. She tells me she wants to go to the airport with me and makes no mention of sex / money. I am a bit confused but I am trying smash so I quickly finish my food and off we go to the hotel. We get in the hotel and she changes out of her dress into regular clothes and helps me pack. After packing I lay on the bed and she joins me. I try to heat things up but she puts up some resistance which is perplexing me. I push forward and finally she ask how much I'm going to give her. I tell her I can spare 2,000 pesos (wanted money to keep and to spend on shit at the hotel) and she doesn't object. After some foreplay this girl is mad wet. I seal the deal quickly and we take a shower and head off to the hotel. Get to the hotel and we say our goodbyes and I slip her the 2,000 pesos.
Overall the trip was pretty good and I had fun. Doing it again I would have done some things a bit different which I will touch on in the data sheet.
Anyone interested in my 2 month trip report to Philippines, Cambodia, Thailand, and Vietnam shoot me a pm.
[QUOTE=Ikksman;1597606]He has no intention of posting the guide here. If you PM'd him he would simply direct you to his new website / blog. His blog at present, has 2 articles / guides which are very short and extremely basic and sketchy. Not worth reading. But obviously he has big plans for the future.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]LOL Agreed Ikks as that would be too embarrassing but I will try and find it as his insights so far a travel writer and blogger have not been insightful at all as Amavida posted a link to clubs that had more information than his previous contributions on the board.
Can you post his link so we can all have a good chuckle and may leave a few comments about the paucity of his information.
Be careful as he has a habit of placing all who criticize him on the Ignore List so he basically only reads those FRs who praise him. So he has limited reading on ISG so far LOL.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1597658]LOL Agreed Ikks as that would be too embarrassing but I will try and find it as his insights so far a travel writer and blogger have not been insightful at all as Amavida posted a link to clubs that had more information than his previous contributions on the board.
Can you post his link so we can all have a good chuckle and may leave a few comments about the paucity of his information.
Be careful as he has a habit of placing all who criticize him on the Ignore List so he basically only reads those FRs who praise him. So he has limited reading on ISG so far LOL.[/QUOTE]Just google his other name "Paisadash" and his site will appear.
His nightlife blog is a basic 2 lines on each nightspot. No real insights. Second blog is about meeting pinays! I could have written the same info in 2 sentences.
All his info is totally basic and readily available in lots of places on the internet including here.
Cheers
[QUOTE=CaliPro;1597633]
Trip Report.
Quick Overview.
4 Days.
6 Lays.
1st Day.
Arrived in Manila at 12 pm and was off to my hotel in Makati (One Greenbelt Hotel). Quick word of advice, don't get a taxi from the workers directly when you walk out, go down the the road a bit and get a regular one. The charged me 500 pesos which is double what it should cost. Anyways get to the hotel go to grab a SIM card and some load. I got 100 pesos worth a load a day. After getting my phone set up I decided I buy a few Andros pills which is the local equivalent to Cialis at Mercury Drug across from my hotel...
[/QUOTE]Jeez, all this build up for this. What an amateurish report. This FR is riddled with pick-up artist (PUA) jargon but almost no PUA scores - the QC girl may count. The whole PUA experience is to avoid p4p, i.e. mad skillz trump cash, and many devote a lot of time, effort, and (stupidly) cash reading and watching how-to guides. Yet this fella is in MBC, Burgos, and Havana and his Insomnia pick ups are meth heads - the only skillz one needs at those places are to inhale and exhale, so the whole PUA effort is a waste if those are the places you play. A PUA is scoring at Prive, Republic, etc. The sunshine doesn't degrade the PUA's powers; during the day a PUA is at BGC chatting up the birds and at the very least getting names and numbers. The QC info is decent and ought to be expanded; since it's the place where foreigners don't go I have no idea why he's back at MBC, Burgos and Havana. QC is fertile ground.
For a fella who is concerned with stretching the peso he even does phone load wrong. Here's a hint: you could have had unlimited texts, 180 minutes of voice, and 100 mb data for a month for p250. You spent p400 for 4 days of texting. You could have done unlimited texting for p20-30 a day.
Six lays in 4 days and Andros is needed? There's another waste of money - I recall Andros runs approx. p500 a 100mg tablet. If you're pulling 4 girls a day, which is very feasible when you don't spend your life in a taxi, then Andros may be needed. And merc sells a cheaper sildenafil citrate for 5 100mg tablets for p707.50.
I'm a big advocate of people taking a different path and I have no problems with guys looking to minimize their expenses and getting away from the same old places. I think it ought to be encouraged. But to pitch some guide as the be-all-and-know-all for Manila... what I've read here seems very much oversell and under deliver.
although perhaps the difference between mine and the superstud caliwhoever is that this is my 50th trip report. or 60th. whatever.
so the plan, and newbies take note, plans never work out was as follows.
miss are from an island was coming to manila. i was going to have her night 1, night 3 and night 5. a 19 year old young lady who realises theres no fun on an island and that filipinos boys are generally useless. a lady who is discovering herself and seemed ready for some dares (freebie will you tie me up. freebie will you give me a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103][CodeWord103][/url] " etc.
miss w from muntinlupa (21) who was cuteness personified. plan was to have her afternoon of day 2.
miss l from caloocan. 25. wasnt sure about her.
miss m from mckinley. (25) had her before but definitely worth a repeat.
miss k (1). from paranaque (20) for swimming and whatever else and.
miss k (2). a also 20 years who i've known for a while and who is the star of many of my home made movies.
so that was the plan. and as we all know plans get screwed and you got to roll with them.
i'm not skogis's age or energy levels anymore and my previous excesses of trying to do 10 in 5 days have ended. i'm officially over that. now i prefer more leisurely time.
the week started badly when miss w told me, 7 days before the planned meet that her work visa for taipei was approved and she was off two days before the meet. she seemed more upset than i was and her daily messages and pics on whatsapp seem evidence of that.
my dear pal flight was 4 hours late and then miss are and i play the "where are you, i'm here game" in the rain at night. we eventually meet and she's shorter than i thought but young and vivacious. we walk to the hotel, down the quiet street near fairmont and she takes my hand and lets me feel her boobs. ok game on. we get to hotel and no need to talk. i turn off lights, pick her up, put her on desk and take from the rear. / she seemed to enjoy. she told me she had been watching videos of how to give hj and bj, and could she practice on me. sure i replied. eventually we sleep, have a morning round. i go to work and plan on seeing her on day 2 afternoon.
sadly she sends me a text later that day saying grandad is in hospital, and mom with her weak heart needs daughter to take mom back to the island. she sent me pics of the ferry, and the hospital and is still "vibering me" about future dares so i guess it was true. never asked for a penny either, good girl.
did some work and move onto miss l. she's on time and came with mom. i see mom and think the daughter, whilst looking great will not be a beauty when she's older. mom asks and gets p200 transport money. take daughter to landmark for a bikini and then for a swim.
filipnas are very funny. we get to pool and theres a filipina maid nearby, looking after some white kids.
my girl, goes and talks to the maid. maid didn't realize i understand tagalog so she's asking my girl " so is he your bf, is he rich, did you fuck him yet, has he got a big one". filipinas must be the nosiest people in the world.
we swim, and then to bed. she says she's not a virgin but says she's never been naked in bed with a man. meaning she and some trike driver maybe did it standing up somewhere.
nice body, nice reactions from her, it was all good. sent her on her way in the morning. and even though she had sent me messages on viber all week prior to the meet, she went dead silent after. maybe because when she said " freebie can i borrow p10,000 to look for a job, i said no. ".
then met miss k. nice looking girl. she turned up in high heels that were clearly very painful for her to walk in.
plus filipinas generally don't like walking more than 5 paces anyway.
buy bikini and off to pool. she can't swim but the beauty of the pool meet, is that you can touch and hold all the body before unwrapping it.
eventually after swimming up to bed and she's lovely. pussy juice was tasty like hot butter. and she loved to grab me and kiss. lips locked for hours.
she leaves as i'm supposed to meet miss m. who texts me she's sick and no voice. oh well. text miss k and say lets have a night out. she's ready so we go to burgos and see some bars. see the usual shabu riddled black filipina talking to her hand, and some less than great bodies in stardust and then home to bed.
next day its miss k2. she was one hour late but came from rizal so forgiven. we still have a certain magic. she says i'm her first and only one. who knows. i send her off, do some work, and then call up miss k1 again. i seem to prefer to be with those i know rather than random strangers these days.
miss k knows its my last night so makes great efforts and we both go to the airport very early. she then stays in my cab back to paranaque.
the flight. of course it was on time departing. if only it had been on time arriving in manila. who knows what miss are might have done.
during the trip, lots of wechat friend requests. half of them from gays. a few cute girls on beetalk also that showed promise.
all in all another great trip, not as many pics as before, but a lot better more fun company and better sex. quality quantity arguments will abound.
newbies note that plans will never follow a straight line.
most girls were given a blue note. although miss are was more happy with a silk scarf and some old books i gave her, and a box of english breakfast tea. classy girl.
all asked in advance for chocolates, none got. i'm tired of carrying chocolates country to country.
back at home, gf says " hi freebie, i missed you, can we meet tonight. " i'm thinking honey i got a real sore dick and very sleepy but as she's 24 and cute i reply " of course honey! ".
I'll go on record as saying he's finally fulfilled his obligation to post a descriptive field report. "Props dude".
[QUOTE=CaliPro;1597633]After an hour I decide to bounce
I don't waste much time in asking if they want to bounce
wanted to hit up a club in Malate called Insomnia so I dip
I go post up at a corner
[/QUOTE]He flips, bounces, dips, and posts up. Colorful.
[QUOTE=CaliPro;1597633]At this point I know she was the girl I saw walk by and I can see her posted up behind a pillar.[B] I am like WTF is up with this chick[/B]. I decide to walk over there to her. I am like are you Sandra and she is says yea. She seems mad shy and quiet. [/QUOTE]Yes, they are shy girls. [I]Like[/I], they play by a different set of cultural rules.
[QUOTE=CaliPro;1597633]Lmfao this dude lays pipe to a massive grenade.[/QUOTE]Huh? Can one of you San Ferando guys translate that?
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1597713]Jeez, all this build up for this. What an amateurish report. This FR is riddled with pick-up artist (PUA) jargon but almost no PUA scores - the QC girl may count. The whole PUA experience is to avoid p4p, i.e. mad skillz trump cash, and many devote a lot of time, effort, and (stupidly) cash reading and watching how-to guides. Yet this fella is in MBC, Burgos, and Havana and his Insomnia pick ups are meth heads - the only skillz one needs at those places are to inhale and exhale, so the whole PUA effort is a waste if those are the places you play. A PUA is scoring at Prive, Republic, etc. The sunshine doesn't degrade the PUA's powers; during the day a PUA is at BGC chatting up the birds and at the very least getting names and numbers. The QC info is decent and ought to be expanded; since it's the place where foreigners don't go I have no idea why he's back at MBC, Burgos and Havana. QC is fertile ground.
For a fella who is concerned with stretching the peso he even does phone load wrong. Here's a hint: you could have had unlimited texts, 180 minutes of voice, and 100 mb data for a month for p250. You spent p400 for 4 days of texting. You could have done unlimited texting for p20-30 a day.
Six lays in 4 days and Andros is needed? There's another waste of money - I recall Andros runs approx. p500 a 100mg tablet. If you're pulling 4 girls a day, which is very feasible when you don't spend your life in a taxi, then Andros may be needed. And merc sells a cheaper sildenafil citrate for 5 100mg tablets for p707.50.
I'm a big advocate of people taking a different path and I have no problems with guys looking to minimize their expenses and getting away from the same old places. I think it ought to be encouraged. But to pitch some guide as the be-all-and-know-all for Manila... what I've read here seems very much oversell and under deliver.[/QUOTE]Look guys, Calipro made a concerted effort to write an extensive and detailed FR. I found it entertaining, and did get some tidbits of info from it. If you don't like someone's FR, then simply write your own, or just don't read them if they bother you so much. This isn't a college class on effective mongering FR writing, so no need to provide a "grade. ".
RG.
RG, I think you missed the prelude of a few (or was it many?) months ago.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1597792] I found it entertaining, and did get some tidbits of info from it.[/QUOTE]Okay, I'll bite: What tidbits did you learn?
Please understand that twice I've written that his QC info (Timog & Tomas Morato Ave) could be of benefit to the forum. I genuinely believe this.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1597782]"Lmfao this dude lays pipe to a massive grenade."
Huh? Can one of you San Ferando guys translate that?[/QUOTE]It's PUA speak, see http://www.pualingo.com, where you can define all the other PUA jargon of his post. I recall this Scotian fella is a RL dwarf who comments on the Roosh PUA site. His FRs (aka datasheets in the PUA world) are on occasion entertaining reads.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1597792]Look guys, Calipro made a concerted effort to write an extensive and detailed FR. I found it entertaining, and did get some tidbits of info from it. If you don't like someone's FR, then simply write your own, or just don't read them if they bother you so much. This isn't a college class on effective mongering FR writing, so no need to provide a "grade. ".
RG.[/QUOTE]To point I agree, but given his posting history he hasn't exactly made many friends here. Although it does seem he has many among the backpackers as from his writing style / word usage it appears that's the crowd he's writing for and not the sentient as well as mostly intelligent readers here.
And it seems his mommy increased his allowance as before he boasted about mongering on 500 p per day. Just to list a few discrepancies: I now noticed that he's staying in a hotel as opposed to pension / boarding house, easily spent over 500 p on taxis on some days, donated 2,000 p to a pro (something he said he'd never do) and ate in restos as opposed to cheap street food.
So can you blame a few guys for jumping on his case and critiquing his FR's?
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1597792]Look guys, Calipro made a concerted effort to write an extensive and detailed FR. I found it entertaining, and did get some tidbits of info from it. If you don't like someone's FR, then simply write your own, or just don't read them if they bother you so much. This isn't a college class on effective mongering FR writing, so no need to provide a "grade. ".
RG.[/QUOTE]Everyone picks on Calipro because he a year ago wrote many reports on various treads on ISG with a lot of questions and describing how he would fuck with WG without paying. Eventually, Jackson had to delete his reports with the threat of being excluded from ISG. There are many senior members who have not forgotten this.
The final report is the first real report I se from CB.
Now CP try to use ISG to get more people to see his new blog. This is also against the forum rules as we do not have to advertise for competing pages.
You do not have to spend time watching his new blog, since it does not contribute any new knowledge.
And in Calipros report he claims to have had his usual cheapskatefun at Insomnia. Isn't that one closed and have moved to diff location now named Exklusiv. If so how could he do his excellent clubbing routine at Insomnia or is he just using names he finds at the internet and places himself in Manila (mindwandering). I haven't been in the Malate area for a goid year now but I have heard or read somewhere Insomnia is closed (as their homepage also states).
[quote=skogis;1597833]and in calipros report he claims to have had his usual cheapskatefun at insomnia. isn't that one closed and have moved to diff location now named exklusiv. if so how could he do his excellent clubbing routine at insomnia or is he just using names he finds at the internet and places himself in manila (mindwandering). i haven't been in the malate area for a goid year now but i have heard or read somewhere insomnia is closed (as their homepage also states).[/quote]that report was dated feb 2013. insomnia was still around and that was before exklusiv opened up.
on my second arrival to manila (november / december 2014) was when insomnia closed and exklusiv was opened.
[quote=askeaske]everyone picks on calipro because he a year ago wrote many reports on various treads on isg with a lot of questions and describing how he would fuck with wg without paying. eventually, jackson had to delete his reports with the threat of being excluded from isg. there are many senior members who have not forgotten this.
the final report is the first real report i se from cb.
now cp try to use isg to get more people to see his new blog. this is also against the forum rules as we do not have to advertise for competing pages.
you do not have to spend time watching his new blog, since it does not contribute any new knowledge.[/quote]i never made a report on the isg with this handle not sure how i could have had reports deleted. now i did have various redactions from posts in which i was engaged in pissing matches with other members. additionally, i have numerous trip reports in latin america on my old handle of tarheelbred. even with the calipro handle i posted a very detailed map of manila, along with the most extensive list of pensions and apartelles you will find on the net for manila and cebu.
[quote=pipjaegar]to point i agree, but given his posting history he hasn't exactly made many friends here. although it does seem he has many among the backpackers as from his writing style / word usage it appears that's the crowd he's writing for and not the sentient as well as mostly intelligent readers here.
and it seems his mommy increased his allowance as before he boasted about mongering on 500 p per day. just to list a few discrepancies: i now noticed that he's staying in a hotel as opposed to pension / boarding house, easily spent over 500 p on taxis on some days, donated 2,000 p to a pro (something he said he'd never do) and ate in restos as opposed to cheap street food.
so can you blame a few guys for jumping on his case and critiquing his fr's?[/quote]i not a "monger" sir. i can count on 1 hand the amount of times a have p4p and that is spanning 5 years of travel. so i am not sure where you are getting this "mongering budget". additionally, i never said i would never p4 p as i have done it before (colombia, costa rica, and philippines) and have no problems with the p4 p scene and people that indulge in such. which from my circles is quite rare. most young guys are opposed to it and can not see the benefits or fun that can be had from p4p. non the less it works out better for me as my peers usually stay clear of those places making my value even higher.
[quote=hutsuri]jeez, all this build up for this. what an amateurish report. this fr is riddled with pick-up artist (pua) jargon but almost no pua scores - the qc girl may count. the whole pua experience is to avoid p4p, i.e. mad skillz trump cash, and many devote a lot of time, effort, and (stupidly) cash reading and watching how-to guides. yet this fella is in mbc, burgos, and havana and his insomnia pick ups are meth heads - the only skillz one needs at those places are to inhale and exhale, so the whole pua effort is a waste if those are the places you play. a pua is scoring at prive, republic, etc. the sunshine doesn't degrade the pua's powers; during the day a pua is at bgc chatting up the birds and at the very least getting names and numbers. the qc info is decent and ought to be expanded; since it's the place where foreigners don't go i have no idea why he's back at mbc...[/quote]you must not be familiar with my stance. i am no pua and kinda despise most of the scene. yes, i do use some of the lingo as my peers use it heavily. some terms actually have good uses and theories behind them ie ioi's. for the record i am just a normal dude that loves to travel and bed exotic women. i barely even recognize the term game. to me it is mostly basic personality and understanding of human dynamics.
republiq is filled with gringo hunters and sluts. pulling there is nothing to brag about. prive? ok yea that is a little more impressive. but then again normal girls go there to party as well. only props i will give to anyone in the philippines is he he scores some extremely rich / affluent and hot chick or someone famous ie model or celebrity.
i go to mbc because i enjoy the seedy raunchy atmosphere. nothing more nothing less. (well there was a cute waitress on my first trip, second trip didn't yield any cute mbc waitresses).
andros is never a waste of money. i can not fuck rock hard 3-4 times in one night without "extra juice".
my trip report is nothing more than my experiences.
[quote=radicalguy]look guys, calipro made a concerted effort to write an extensive and detailed fr. i found it entertaining, and did get some tidbits of info from it. if you don't like someone's fr, then simply write your own, or just don't read them if they bother you so much. this isn't a college class on effective mongering fr writing, so no need to provide a "grade. ".[/quote]glad to see there are some solid posters on the phi board.
people here get offended when they discover i am x years old and plan to go about getting girls or have opinions that are different than theirs. then they make inflamatory remarks causing me to respond in kind. which i admit is stupid of me. this will be the last post i make responding to any negative comments thrown my way.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1597833]And in Calipros report he claims to have had his usual cheapskatefun at Insomnia. Isn't that one closed and have moved to diff location now named Exklusiv. If so how could he do his excellent clubbing routine at Insomnia or is he just using names he finds at the internet and places himself in Manila (mindwandering). I haven't been in the Malate area for a goid year now but I have heard or read somewhere Insomnia is closed (as their homepage also states).[/QUOTE]In his defence that FR was from Feb and if memory serves me right Insomnia was still kickin' at that time, just prior to its move to Exclusiv.
Edit: my memory isn't what it once was. I posted a FR of the new Exclusiv on 22 Dec 2013, http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1007-Manila&p=1510560#post1510560. Maybe his Feb FR was of a visit here in December.
[quote=calipro;1597857]snip
i not a "monger" sir. i can count on 1 hand the amount of times a have p4p and that is spanning 5 years of travel. so i am not sure where you are getting this "mongering budget". additionally, [b]i never said i would never p4 p[/b] as i have done it before (colombia, costa rica, and philippines) and have no problems with the p4 p scene and people that indulge in such. which from my circles is quite rare. most young guys are opposed to it and can not see the benefits or fun that can be had from p4p. non the less it works out better for me as my peers usually stay clear of those places making my value even higher.[/quote]
if you're not a monger, then why post here as isg is primarily for mongers? i'm sure there are other boards / blogs / forums for you to spin your tales. note: i'm not trying to discourage you from posting here, just curious why you bother to do so.
and here's just 3 examples i was able to find of your duplicity in a few minutes; i'll let other board members refute the rest of your bs if they choose to do so. i, for one, have a very hard time believing most of you write here, but i do often find it (and the subsequent replies) entertaining, lol.
[quote=calipro;1451933]generally speaking [b]i don't pay for sex[/b] (i have done it a few times in my life, [b]but don't plan on partaking in philippines[/b]).
my party budget includes cheap food and alcohol for the girls i meet and go on dates with.
keep in mind i am 27.[/quote]
[quote=calipro;1448438]snip
[b]i don't do barfines or anything.[/b] manly just pick up girls in regular clubs or try and shore some girls from fl spots.
snip[/quote]
[quote=calipro;1453115]i just realized i am budgeting 30usd a night for my entire trip (philippines, thailand, and indonesia).snip
i suppose i might better tell the women i meet that [b]i don't pay for sex,[/b] and don't have the money even if i did.
snip.[/quote]
also, don't take me wrong. i'm glad you decided to make at least one monetary donation to a girl. beats just a cheap beer, a 5 peso bag of chips and a shot of sperm.
[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1597986]If you're not a monger, then why post here as ISG is primarily for mongers?[/QUOTE]To be fair it is the International Sex Guide and not the International Prostitution Guide. Granted, the vast majority of posts are on the topic of p4p, yet this forum to my knowledge is not for p4p exclusively. I'm completely in favour of any and all commentators that further my hapenis in the pursuit of sex. My issue with Tarheel / CaliPro is mainly the oversell and under deliver. I actually hoped it went as he intended when he first posted his plans - I realise this places me in the minority here. Perhaps he'll see it's wiser to post this-is-what-I-did comments rather than this-is-what-I'm-gonna do ones; you're setting yourself up for a fall if it doesn't go as trumpeted. Given he's been here a total of two times, which puts him in the newbie camp firmly, and hasn't really provided anything other than a rehash of what is already very well known I've concluded that his comments were and are hubristic. I'm not surprised by the bollocking he's receiving here. I do hope it doesn't dissuade others, and as I said earlier he has the opportunity to provide in-depth info of the Timog / Tomas Morato area.
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1597995]To be fair it is the International Sex Guide and not the International Prostitution Guide. Granted, the vast majority of posts are on the topic of p4p, yet this forum to my knowledge is not for p4p exclusively. I'm completely in favour of any and all commentators that further my hapenis in the pursuit of sex. [/QUOTE]Let's not get into a flame war over semantics and I never said "exclusively"; I said primarily. Perhaps I should have used a less forceful word, so my bad. And I also did say I'm not trying to discourage his posting here; I only question why he bothers because, as you have said, most of his comments do receive quite a bit of "bollocking". I too am in favor of any one contributing something substantive in the pursuit of my sexual happiness.
[QUOTE]My issue with Tarheel / CaliPro is mainly the oversell and under deliver. I actually hoped it went as he intended when he first posted his plans - I realise this places me in the minority here. Perhaps he'll see it's wiser to post this-is-what-I-did comments rather than this-is-what-I'm-gonna do ones; you're setting yourself up for a fall if it doesn't go as trumpeted. Given he's been here a total of two times, which puts him in the newbie camp firmly, and hasn't really provided anything other than a rehash of what is already very well known I've concluded that his comments were and are hubristic. I'm not surprised by the bollocking he's receiving here. I do hope it doesn't dissuade others, and as I said earlier he has the opportunity to provide in-depth info of the Timog / Tomas Morato area.[/QUOTE]Actually I don't think you are in the minority, IMHO many of us here were hoping for more from him. A long time ago I said something to the effect that I was looking forward to hearing his perspective on things in the Phils; that is to say from a younger guy on a tight budget. But what little factual firsthand knowledge he's posted to date has been grossly disappointing and, again as you so aptly mentioned, hubristic.
[quote=pipjaeger;1598007]let's not get into a flame war over semantics and i never said "exclusively";
[/quote]pip, no flames seen nor sought. i largely agree with what you've written. just a pet peeve of mine. sorry.
[QUOTE=PipJaeger]If you're not a monger, then why post here as ISG is primarily for mongers? I'm sure there are other boards / blogs / forums for you to spin your tales. Note: I'm not trying to discourage you from posting here, just curious why you bother to do so.
And here's just 3 examples I was able to find of your duplicity in a few minutes; I'll let other board members refute the rest of your BS if they choose to do so. I, for one, have a very hard time believing most of you write here, but I do often find it (and the subsequent replies) entertaining, LOL.[/QUOTE]Good question for which I have a few answers.
1) ISG board is a good source of information, all information, not just brothels and hooker prices. ISG is one of the best places to find out what hotels are girl friendly. Which is very important for someone like me who plans to be meeting women and bringing them back to the hotel. At the same token, mongers here at ISG could maybe gain info from me as I might be a little more plugged into the normal bar and club scene. The more information, insights, and trip reports the better in my opinion.
2) I enjoy the seedier areas, gogo bars, strip clubs, and freelance clubs. Great places to go and have fun even if you are not looking to P4 P. Not to mention the chance of getting a hot girls number and maybe fucking her for free. Like I said, I like to begin my nights in Manila at MBC shooting pool, having a few beers, and shitting the breeze with some WG's and waitresses.
3) While I am not a monger per say, I have and will probably indulge in P4P again in the future. Like I said, I have no issue with P4P and the men and women you make that their trade.
There is no duplicity in my posts. What you quoted was me speaking generally or what I "planned" to do for x trip. To give you an analogy, if someone asks if I am a smoker or smoke, I will tell them no I am not or maybe even tell them I do not smoke. However, I have on a few rare occasions smoked a cigarette. Your 3rd quoted SNIP is merely what I tell girls that I plan to "shore" (WGs I fuck for free) as I am not trying to lead them on nor am I trying to have an argument in the money about money. They are there to make money so if they choose to leave with me I want them to understand and it to be their choice.
[QUOTE=Hutsori]To be fair it is the International Sex Guide and not the International Prostitution Guide. Granted, the vast majority of posts are on the topic of p4p, yet this forum to my knowledge is not for p4p exclusively. I'm completely in favour of any and all commentators that further my hapenis in the pursuit of sex. My issue with Tarheel / CaliPro is mainly the oversell and under deliver. I actually hoped it went as he intended when he first posted his plans - I realise this places me in the minority here. Perhaps he'll see it's wiser to post this-is-what-I-did comments rather than this-is-what-I'm-gonna do ones; you're setting yourself up for a fall if it doesn't go as trumpeted. Given he's been here a total of two times, which puts him in the newbie camp firmly, and hasn't really provided anything other than a rehash of what is already very well known I've concluded that his comments were and are hubristic. I'm not surprised by the bollocking he's receiving here. I do hope it doesn't dissuade others, and as I said earlier he has the opportunity to provide in-depth info of the Timog / Tomas Morato area.[/QUOTE]I am not sure why you have an issue with people being excited and having goals or ideas of how they want their trip to go. While I didn't fuck the number I originally planned, that in no way made my trip a failure or set me up for some fall. I fucked plenty of girls and had a great time. The only way for a trip to be a failure for me would be to completely strike out and not get laid. Hell, even then the trip wouldn't be a complete failure as I just being in a new country, partying having a good time is a win.
[QUOTE=PipJaeger]Actually I don't think you are in the minority, IMHO many of us here were hoping for more from him. A long time ago I said something to the effect that I was looking forward to hearing his perspective on things in the Phils; that is to say from a younger guy on a tight budget. But what little factual firsthand knowledge he's posted to date has been grossly disappointing and, again as you so aptly mentioned, hubristic.[/QUOTE]The reason why I do not post here a lot and give info is obvious. I get ridiculed for xy and z. This board and a few of it's members have an issue with people doing things differently or having differing opinions and can tend to flame others.
I have not once made an incendiary unprovoked comment towards another poster. I respect everyone's opinion and value everyone's info regardless of the quality or content. Like I said, the more info I have to pull from will only make my trip better.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1597833]And in Calipros report he claims to have had his usual cheapskatefun at Insomnia. Isn't that one closed and have moved to diff location now named Exklusiv. If so how could he do his excellent clubbing routine at Insomnia or is he just using names he finds at the internet and places himself in Manila (mindwandering). I haven't been in the Malate area for a goid year now but I have heard or read somewhere Insomnia is closed (as their homepage also states).[/QUOTE]Yes it been closed for Months now (Insomia).
Guys my last bar fine from Samba is texting me that they still have no power & little water there. She claims to have no work for days due to bar closure. Asking me for fare to come stay at my place.
I don't play head games but who knows what bloody lies are behind this. Can anyone confirm EDSA closures this week?
AV.
Was in Manila last month. Visited Spada on Taft Avenue. Very good Lingam Massage & Body Wash with a very good finish.
Does anyone know of any other places with similar services?
[QUOTE=Amavida;1598276]Guys my last bar fine from Samba is texting me that they still have no power & little water there. She claims to have no work for days due to bar closure. Asking me for fare to come stay at my place.
I don't play head games but who knows what bloody lies are behind this. Can anyone confirm EDSA closures this week?
AV.[/QUOTE]Upsss.
I will return to the Philippines to joy some girls after few years. In EDSA I met a few very good girls. Where to go now?
Is there something like erotic ads website? Or some list of hookers?
I do not have time to chat on dating websites.
[QUOTE=TurekMn;1598341]SNIP Where to go now?
Is there something like erotic ads website? Or some list of hookers?
I do not have time to chat on dating websites.[/QUOTE]You do have time to RTTF and the money to buy a subscription here, yes?
I don't see any of your past Trip Reports here.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1598276]Guys my last bar fine from Samba is texting me that they still have no power & little water there. She claims to have no work for days due to bar closure. Asking me for fare to come stay at my place.
I don't play head games but who knows what bloody lies are behind this. Can anyone confirm EDSA closures this week?
AV.[/QUOTE]Can't give you a yes or no but can give a more definitive response than TurekMn. I live about half way between Manila and Tagaytay and we got hit pretty hard. Due to no electricity or water here, I went to a hotel in Manila the 2nd morning after the typhoon. On the ride in I remarked that Manila seemed to have significantly less damage than where I live. We actually got off the bus across the street from the Edsa complex. Our electricity and water returned on my 3rd day in Manila.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1598528]Can't give you a yes or no but can give a more definitive response than TurekMn. I live about half way between Manila and Tagaytay and we got hit pretty hard. Due to no electricity or water here, I went to a hotel in Manila the 2nd morning after the typhoon. On the ride in I remarked that Manila seemed to have significantly less damage than where I live. We actually got off the bus across the street from the Edsa complex. Our electricity and water returned on my 3rd day in Manila.[/QUOTE]Thanks Slippery. Samba girl is insisting she still has no power as of today, Thursday & mosquitoes eating her up. I have a felling this little soap opera may just top last weeks little drama but ever the one for adventure I sent her a fare to bus her in to Dau. I have a lot of sweet girlfriends, this could get very interesting in coming days.
AV.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1598528]Can't give you a yes or no but can give a more definitive response than TurekMn. I live about half way between Manila and Tagaytay and we got hit pretty hard. Due to no electricity or water here, I went to a hotel in Manila the 2nd morning after the typhoon. On the ride in I remarked that Manila seemed to have significantly less damage than where I live. We actually got off the bus across the street from the Edsa complex. Our electricity and water returned on my 3rd day in Manila.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that Slippery. Hope you're back on line soon! Thank you for the info mate.
AV.
I'm staying near resorts world. Thought I'd check out the casino area, just to see what might be crawling there. Noticed her smile at me as I passed by. She was a very hungry girl, to say the least. One thing about Pinay, they seem to be a most horny bunch and don't mind at all picking up a guy for the night.
Suggestions, take a walk through the casino just to see how many ladies catch your attention. Perhaps not the sexy girls from Makati, but what the hell, and the price is right.
note* this is pulled off another forum i am active on. so some names and terminology might not be familiar to you. apologies in advance. it started out fairly detailed but then i got lazy (my routine remained fairly consistent and my internet sucked) anyways maybe some of you might find it entertaining. i was in manila for about 16 nights before heading to cebu.
day 1.
arrive in manila around 12 pm. i had already exchanged about 300 usd at the airport in seoul. airport taxis are crazy expensive (quoted 700 p to go to paco). after walking around outside i found a white taxi willing to take me for 350 p. the drive only took 25 minutes to my surprise.
check into the gohotel otis located at robinsons ortis mall in paco. nice room for about 20 usd a night. only complaint is the internet is painfully slow. enough for basic browsing but streaming video is very hard if not impossible. not sure if this is just a problem with my room or a hotel problem. location is pretty convenient for me. mall has places to eat and a super market. about a 8 minute ride from malate. i've been taking the moto taxi. not sure the right price but they tell me 80-60 p and i say 50 p which they agree. i am thinking this is too much. should probably tell them 40 p. head to the robinsons malate mall kinda early 8 pm. fuck around for about 30 minutes and then head to mbc. there was not hardly any cute waitresses like last time. i think i only saw one worth chatting to. beers here are expensive at 120 p for a sml. didn't really pay attention to the working girls. i played on game of pool and made a few laps for dipping to go to bellagio square. place was pretty lively and had a bang playing. i text a girl i met online who i knew always went to bellagio square. literally 30 seconds after messaging her i see her with a friend sitting at some tables. i join them and later another friends arrives. we decide to go to exklusiv. no cover. people dressed on he nicer side. played techno much to my despair. night was going good. i danced with my girl and made out. then someone goes and steals her iphone. completely changes the mood as she get upset and pissed. we decide to leave and hop in a taxi. at this point i am not sure what she is planning to do ie get dropped off with her friend or go back with me. i didn't mention anything and kinda took a wait and see approach. get to their apartment and she says she will message me later. at this point i was like fuck. i tell the taxi to take me back to my hotel, half way i change my mind and say fuck this and tell the taxi mbc. its pretty late at this point but first night in manila i need to get laid.
get to mbc and i post up with a beer. start chatting to a chinese american guy. a pretty good looking girl sits next to us. the guy and her talk. he ventures off some where and she tells me that she doesn't think he will take her. i said how much did you charge him and she replies 3,000 p. i tell her that is too much and that it is pretty late. she should offer him 1.5-2 k. we chat for awhile and i tell i'm going across the street for food and she decides to join me. the fucking sun is up. we eat and she says lets go to my hotel. i make a crucial error here. i don't clarify and money issues, however i am pretty sure i told her inside mbc that i don't pay for sex. regardless we get back to hotel, i stop into the mercury drug next door and get a andros pill (250 p? go up to room and she takes a shower. laying on bed and she asks me how much will you pay me. i want to tell her nothing but i know she won't do that (she appears to be about her paper). i tell her 1. 5 and she counters with 2 k. i reluctantly agree. bad decision as i didn't even get a nut from it. this girl i could tell was rushing me and i just lost interest and told her to leave.
with the lack of a cute waitress i doubt i will be returning to mbc on this trip. i will also have to make damn sure i mention money when attempting to shore. rookie mistake i know smh.
on a positive note it feels damn good to be in philippines. got a date lined up for tonight with this girl i posted earlier in the thread.
day 2.
sleep most of the day due to going to bed so late. go and grab some lunch downstairs in the mall. beings the previous night i was with a girl and her friends i wanted to spend this night out venturing around alone. before leaving the hotel i make a map of malate to guide me around. i get a moto taxi to take me to robinsons malate. get some icecream and venture around. after awhile i head to mbc. go upstairs and spend most my time chatting with the waitresses. there is one cute one and was confusing me. it was clear i was favoring her and she would reciprocate some but then retreat. not sure what the deal was but i grew tired of it and went back downstairs. i spot one pretty cute petite waitress i didn't notice from the other night. i might go back to mbc at some point to chat with her if i have some time to kill. leave and head to bellagio square. sunday night and kind of early so not many people. i have 1 beer at the place from the previous night with the girls. the waiters ask me where is erica and i tell them she is staying in tonight. finish my beer quick and start venturing around.
happen upon super six which was dead / empty. next up i hear some music and a good crowd at calle 5 so i decide to go in. first thing you notice is the large number of waitresses. a band was playing and there was a small dance floor with local filipinos dancing. this is a pretty local joint. only saw 1 other white guy in here. i nurse a beer and leave after the last band plays. next up i look for cowboy grill. get there and the place is packed. lots of foreigners with girls. get a beer and make a few laps around the place hoping some girls would bite. no luck. as i mentioned most tables were mixed sets from my recollection. not a great place to go for pickup. funny note i saw a girl a met online her with some white guy. after a short while i leave. chat with about 5 street kids and tell them ill get them icecream. all of a sudden the 5 kids ballooned to 20! lol go into the 7/11 and have them all pick out what they want. price was more than i expected (800 p). oh well, good dead for the day. should have took them to a angle burger i saw afterwards, 20 p for burger.
continue walking around and come up paddys point. a place i have heard about but never included in my manila sheet / map. hear music and go in. decent little crowd all local. pound back 1 beer and continue on. next up was the other cowboy grill. pretty good crowd here too. smaller than the other cowboy grill. also played hip hop i believe. didn't even get a beer here and left after one lap. at this point i want to hurry up and get to exklusiv or zzxyz so i make my way to remedios circle. see zzxyz (no cover) and decide to go in. lots of girls without guys here. what i heard was true ie many asian guys here. music was not to my liking though as this place place house / techno. i get a beer and post up near the dance floor. no immediate heavy iois. go upstairs to chill over looking the bottom floor. after about 40 minutes i decide to call it a night.
this was a very poor night. i really shit the bed. normally there are a few girls to actively open me every night but last night that was not the case. i can't use that as an excuse. there is no reason why i didn't open at least 5 different girls last night. on top of that i was only searching for iois at half speed. i didn't make solid eye contact like i should have been. it should be criminal to go alone home in philippines. got to be more pro active if things are not coming easily, which they won't every night.
anyways just got to fix these issues and stop being so damn lazy. got a date tonight which i am 90% sure is dtf. we will see.
day 3.
did my normal day routine ie sleep in late, mall for lunch and relax. set up a date with a girl i met on fc. met her at robinsons malate at 10 pm. she came from antipolo and asked me to pay for the taxi ride. it was about 300 p. the mall joints are closed and i am wondering where to go. decide to head to remedios circle as i am sure there are some eats there. take taxi and go inside cafe adriatico. i have read about this place online and i knew it prob wouldn't be cheap, but was tired of walking around so went in. we shared some calimari and some pasta. bill was like 650 p. quite a bit more than i prefer to pay to eat. should have found a jolibee or chow king lol. finish eating and go to zzxyz. no cover like usual and ladies received a free drink. to my surprise they were playing music i liked old school rap and hits from 90's and 00's. we arrived a little early maybe 11 pm. was a barely decent crowd but a lot more people streamed in over the next hour and a half. was kind of wanting to be solo to chat up some of these girls. a lot of these girls seem to be on the catch / hunt. not sure what the actually ratio is tho. will have to test it out and give it some more thorough observations. me and my girl dance a little bit and have about 3 beers. (100 p each).
at about 1 am i want to go check out exklusiv so we make the walk across and down the street. not many people in here tonight (monday). we have beer and by this time i am ready to bounce her to the hotel. so i say lets go. from her playful touching and flirting at the clubs i knew she was completely dtf. get back to hotel and zero resistance. not only did this girl have a great perky rack but she had the smallest tightest box i have ever seen. if this girl had a little bit more ass her body would be a 9. the girl in the video from my last trip in feb had nicer tits but she wasnt as tight. i plan to have her over one more time before i leave manila. going to attempt to get some pics. told her i had to go to batangas this morning and sent her on her way with 500 p taxi money.
some random notes.
i am spending about 2,500-3,000 p a day. a bit more than i would like. i need to cut this down to 1,000-2,000 p. mall food / restaurants / local pinoy fast food is costing me about 150-300 p a meal.
malate has a shit ton of homeless. this doesn't bother me, but it is making me think twice about bringing girls there. i am thinking i need to find a new date / clubbing spot. problem with that is all the other options are going to be a lot more expensive with large covers and higher drink prices. i need to get to asking some locals for cheap lively spots in makati.
so far i think zzxyz has the best pick up potential in malate. will probably be my main solo hunting spot.
gohotel otis hasnt stopped me with a girl on both nights. only thing i dislike is having to walk right by the front desk with 2 girls and a guy with my date or pick up. i swear they are going to think i am some man working girl and fucking hookers.
well bought to go walking around malate and look for a basketball court to get my sweat on. i might take tonight off.
man, i got to get better at picking targets in malate. me and all the guys went to zzxyz in malate and i got no where with about 5 opens. i've come to the conclusion this place is solely a korean freelance club. maybe i was picking too hot of girls, i don't know, but what ever it was i need to adjust it. i think for manila setting up night dates is the way to go.
got to give props to jackcheasnut. he sees and reacts. a bit different to my more calculating indecisive style. only one to leave with a girl although i am pretty sure she is a pro. but he might could have shored.
funny note, i left friheten at exklusiv to fuck around at mbc. as i am leaving a mamasan approaches me with this cute 17 yr old looking girl. i tell them i am gay but they follow me down the street. eventually the mamasan tells me just her her 100 p and for me to take the girl to be my gf or something. at this point i'm like fuck 100 p? i ask to see her i'd and she says she doesn't have it. for 100 p this girl was cute and had a nice round ass. my mind was battling my conscious lol. in the end i was like naw i can't do this.
i got a date set up for friday night. girl has a great body. will see what happens.
just had one of the best nights of my life. so last night i am still sick debating whether or not to go out. i have to meet up with some girls the next night so i decide fuck it, i'm going out solo tonight to try and redeem myself from the other night where i caught an l. so, head out to zzxyz and its mad early. i finish my beer and head to exklusiv. get a beer and post up at a table. see this big group of sexy girls on the other side of the dance floor and decide to position myself at the adjuring table. i get over there and this what looks like a filipino dude comes up and is like who are you here with. i tell him i'm solo and he invites me to his table and says its his bday. his table is the one with all the hot girls, he introduces me to everyone. about 5 filipinas and this one japanese chick, all 7+. they are all very friendly and take me in like i am one of them. one of the filipinas has a wicked ass and reminds me of rihanna however the japanese girl is looking sexy and is giving me some iois. i focus my attention on her. we dance and chat. later on in the night i tell her to lets go get something to eat which she agrees to. take her out the club and don't even get food. straight in the taxi back to my hotel. popped a 50 mil of andros in the bathroom right before i left so i fucked her good 3 times! the bad thing is she made these two blood marks on my bed sheets! fuck me, i know i am going to have to pay for that. oh well, it was worth it! got that jap flag and gave malate and all those korean nut huggers the middle finger!
went to qc with some girls last night and friheten joined us later. was at guily's. i like the music they play there ie minimal techno / house. everyone was rocking having a good time. eventually friheten and my girls friend leave. a bit later me and my girl go to leave and somehow her purse is missing. this is the same girl that got her iphone stolen earlier in the week with me. how can someone have such shitty luck! i gave her a good pounding though which took her mind off things until the morning. friheten, e* is a freak! should have heard all the shit she was saying. her apartment keys where in the purse along with her money. i paid a locksmith to open their apartment. finally back at the hotel. time for some much needed rest.
p.s. i saw that hickie you gave the* lol.
just went on a date with a girl in makati. saw the new hobbit movie. she wanted to get drinks after but i told her i was going to take it easy tonight as i have a cold etc. her hands were quite unaesthetic and dirty looking. complete turnoff. however, the reason why i did the date was because she has a phat plump ass. i decided to pass though. going to head to malate and see what i can stir up. last time i went solo i got the jap girl. need some more good juju.
came across an area called mendiola last night on my way to pasig. place is known as university circle. fuck load of unis and girls walking everywhere.
me and a girl went to tiendesitas in pasig / ortegas. nice large open are place with live music. this girl is quite conservative and reserved and has very protective brothers and a mother. so i didn't attempt to get her back to the hotel.
she was the first girl i went on a date with from internet game that i didn't fuck.
been taking it easy this week. going to see about getting a date for tonight clubbing. truth be told i am over this traffic and i'm ready to get to cebu.
i am so over this mother fucking hotel and it's forsaken slow ass internet!
i can't fucking do shit online! can't even load facebook 50% of the time. fucking needing to message girls and get numbers for tonight and hell no!
damnit!
on another note, i am pretty much done with manila, got a few more nights left. going to do 1 or 2 new dates and 1 or 2 repeats. so i am going to go ahead and do my final words or thoughts.
i want to say i'd skip manila but it is so large that i need to not think in a vacuum. to do manila you need to do your homework and do it right.
the traffic here is so terrible you must have all types of venues in walking distance or a very short cab ride away. and by all venues you are going to need.
1) mall.
2) live music venue.
3) dance club.
i've never really thought about the live venue part but its important as some girls are not going to be the "clubbing" type. so you will need a night spot to bring them to and drink and run normal attraction game.
as for the areas of manila i think the best place to stay would be quezon city. this place has a ton of venues, traffic is not as bad, and many girls (of which you can specifically search online), not many foreigners, etc.
the only other options i would consider would be makati and the fort. and honestly i would not do the fort unless you looked like brad pitt, very good game, and a large bank roll. makati is kind of a middle ground. i can't recommend malate as the p4 p scene is just too great and on top of that the korean influence / preference is very strong. you can get ons but it either takes 1) luck or 2) relentless opening. bringing girls here is problematic as well as its the redlight area and tons of trash and homeless people. this doesn't bother me, but can maybe put girls off from meeting there.
another thing, set your dates up a day in advanced. many girls work at night at call centers or have other stuff going on or live at home with parents and have problems going out late. i've been having some issues getting dates for night trying to set things up last minute. granted my shit internet has probably affected that considerably.
i am kicking myself for not including davao on my itinerary. foreigner appeal is not as high as i'd like in manila and cebu will be no different. speaking from a pure nightlife perspective as online is still gold.
cebu on tuesday.
rushing to find a date for tonight. this girl messaged me.
she is 4'11 and weighs 97 pounds. seems like she is dtf with a decent rack.
only seen this picture. made me call here and put me on the spot so i was like ok meet me blah blah.
never met a girl without seeing other pictures. i am a bit nervous lol felt like i rushed this date selection.
ok i got an issue.
i just called the girl and asked where she was at and she tell me she is on the way to malate with her stepdad. and that isn't the worst of it, she asks her stepdad where they are going and he says amazoniz! if you don't know amazonia is a freelance bar! what the fuck is going on here?
that freaks me out! what fucking stepdad takes his stepdaughter to a hooker bar in the red light district?
i am thinking i need to get another girls number to call incase. i mean only option i can see is getting her out of their and taking her alone to another club while her dad chats up some hookers.
i can't even believe i am considering meeting her with her stepdad in these circumstances. maybe he will hook me up with her?
my mind is blown right now.
appears my reporting stopped for manila here and the next post was a cebu update. funny note from the above girl i met, she looked very trashy and her stepdad was not her real stepdad. just what she called him for whatever reason. i made up some lie about my friend locking himself out of our apartment and that i needed to run home real quick to let him in.
anyways, all my days were pretty much the same.
sleep in late, get lunch at the mall. watch tv or a movie online and other random bullshit to kill time until about 10 ish. set up a date from online for the girl to meet me at robinsons malate. take a trike to malate. (i tried to alternate one night having a date and another night going out solo which probably came out something like 60/40 date / solo). hit up robinsons for dinner then walk to mbc. have a few beers, play a game of pool, shoot the breeze with some of the freelancers and waitresses. around 12 am head to one of the clubs in malate, makati, or qc. did most my dates in malate as it was close to my hotel. would usually meet them at robinsons and take them to zzxyz or exklusiv then back to my hotel.
some final thoughts on manila.
would not recommend staying in paco and esp at gohotel otis. internet was horrible. traffic was pretty shitty as well. on my next visit i will rent an apartment off airbnb in makati.
plan your dates a day or two in advance. i had a slight issue with setting up dates with girls (the best of my crop) on quick notice. my dumb ass would wait until 12 pm - 10 pm until i sent them a message on fb to meet me that night. also, need to go ahead and get the girls phone numbers asap. some girls don't check facebook 24/7 and or delete their account etc etc.
to be honest i much prefer cebu as a city. only problem there is just how small it feels and having your cover blown.
zzxyz is not the best club for a young white guy looking for free poon. well, the poon is not going to fall in your lap. i found girls there to all be primarily hunting koreans and japs. which sucks because this place is very lively with some nice lookers. come here you better be prepared to approach many girls until you find one that bites. i only made a handful of approaches and that was not nearly enough.
exklusiv is a great club. mostly locals with a solid mix of normal girls and semi pros. there was a handful of foreigners in there but nothing too bad.
quezon city is absolutely great. only problem is it is alittle out of the way. tons of cute young girls. hardly zero foreigners. my main club excess closed down recently so i will have to find another haunt to frequent.
CALL PRO, great report.
You are most certainly welcome here. I was a PUA in my 20's and early 30's, and now that I am in my forties, I have ten years of P4 P under my belt. I am also married now, so don't have time or energy for the research, set up, and communication demands of a PUA. Besides, I am getting old and lazy.
Still, I like to go out and score at least one or two each trip, just to make sure that, pushing 50, I still can.
Nice to read about your adventures.
[QUOTE=Psychman;1600912]CALL PRO, great report.
You are most certainly welcome here. I was a PUA in my 20's and early 30's, and now that I am in my forties, I have ten years of P4 P under my belt. I am also married now, so don't have time or energy for the research, set up, and communication demands of a PUA. Besides, I am getting old and lazy.
Still, I like to go out and score at least one or two each trip, just to make sure that, pushing 50, I still can.
Nice to read about your adventures.[/QUOTE]Thanks man,
Tbt I do not consider myself a PUA. Far from it. Zero skill required to pickup girls in the Philippines. Just have a beating heart and you are good to go! It is not the easiest country in the world to get laid for nothing.
[QUOTE=Psychman;1600912]CALL PRO, great report.
You are most certainly welcome here. I was a PUA in my 20's and early 30's, and now that I am in my forties, I have ten years of P4 P under my belt. I am also married now, so don't have time or energy for the research, set up, and communication demands of a PUA. Besides, I am getting old and lazy.
Still, I like to go out and score at least one or two each trip, just to make sure that, pushing 50, I still can.
Nice to read about your adventures.[/QUOTE]Psychman (and Satyr who did the ROD).
Read this FR.
Posted in the Cebu forum recently (but was for January this year). Pip J replied pointing out a few non hero type activities that he felt were not pleasant and very unsafe.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1004-General-Information&p=1601301&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1601301.
If shagging girls with a STD is what you call cool then you need to look at yourself. I don't know any guy on this forum who has boasted about having white discharge, using toilet paper on his dick to try and stop the discharge, then shagging girls all in the same FR (read the link as it is all stated there). Maybe you do?
I would read what PJ says as he asks CP for a list of names etc and non nude pics in case these girls are infected. Sensible - as other may also meet these girls and may then have issues or worse.
FYI. When PJ calls CP "Dash" - it is CPs handle on the other site from where he cut and paste the FRs for ISG.
So hopefully you don't do what CP does as am sure a few guys on the board would find that a tad naughty.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1601395]Psychman (and Satyr who did the ROD).
Read this FR.
Posted in the Cebu forum recently (but was for January this year). Pip J replied pointing out a few non hero type activities that he felt were not pleasant and very unsafe.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1004-General-Information&p=1601301&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1601301.
If shagging girls with a STD is what you call cool then you need to look at yourself. I don't know any guy on this forum who has boasted about having white discharge, using toilet paper on his dick to try and stop the discharge, then shagging girls all in the same FR (read the link as it is all stated there). Maybe you do?
I would read what PJ says as he asks CP for a list of names etc and non nude pics in case these girls are infected. Sensible - as other may also meet these girls and may then have issues or worse.
FYI. When PJ calls CP "Dash" - it is CPs handle on the other site from where he cut and paste the FRs for ISG.
So hopefully you don't do what CP does as am sure a few guys on the board would find that a tad naughty.[/QUOTE]My response to him had nothing to do with past posts, and has nothing to do with who he fucks and what protection he uses. I was merely saying I am glad we get trip reports that are a bit out of the mongering box. If I was to critique the safely and health habits of most mongers here (I. E. Not using condoms for penetration, walking around late at night after 10 beers, alcoholic drinking, the disgusting unhealthy food they eat and their lack of exercise), than I would hardly be able to post about anything else.
So, save your warnings- they are not needed- I am actually a lot more health and safety conscious than most. Yet, I think you were actually trying to make a point and roping me into it.
[QUOTE=Psychman;1601801]My response to him had nothing to do with past posts, and has nothing to do with who he fucks and what protection he uses. I was merely saying I am glad we get trip reports that are a bit out of the mongering box. If I was to critique the safely and health habits of most mongers here (I. E. Not using condoms for penetration, walking around late at night after 10 beers, alcoholic drinking, the disgusting unhealthy food they eat and their lack of exercise), than I would hardly be able to post about anything else.
So, save your warnings- they are not needed- I am actually a lot more health and safety conscious than most. Yet, I think you were actually trying to make a point and roping me into it.[/QUOTE]I like to know who the dripster fucks, when and where so I don't follow into the same hole.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;1601857]I like to know who the dripster fucks, when and where so I don't follow into the same hole.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Deliberately infecting partners is loathe some.
AV.
Dg8,
I hope you don't think only the girls I fucked have STDs. You can pretty much bet a LARGE number of Western groupies, bar girls, etc all had, have, or will catch an STD due to Asians lack of using / forcing guys to use protection. You need to wrap up with pretty much any girl that is putting out quick unless you have had her tested.
Amavido,
I never deliberately infected partners. The moment I learned I had an STD I went and got medicine and didn't fuck another girl without rubber the entire trip.
[QUOTE=CaliPro;1600395]Note* This is pulled off another forum I am active on. So some names and terminology might not be familiar to you. Apologies in advance. It started out fairly detailed but then I got lazy (my routine remained fairly consistent and my internet sucked) Anyways maybe some of you might find it entertaining. I was in Manila for about 16 nights before heading to Cebu.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for copy & pasting something posted on some other forum. I'm touched.
I tried really hard to force myself to read through all of this but it comes across as a whole lot of fail as far as I am concerned.
Let's see, you have no money, no manners & very clue as to what you are on about & spent much of your time alone. Sounds exactly like the Filipino guy's the women here are trying to get away from when they agree to a guy from another country.
Trying to put yourself forward as some kind of legend PUA who is going to start a blog of tip's etc is just laughable.
AV.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1601987]Thanks for copy & pasting something posted on some other forum. I'm touched.
I tried really hard to force myself to read through all of this but it comes across as a whole lot of fail as far as I am concerned.
Let's see, you have no money, no manners & very clue as to what you are on about & spent much of your time alone. Sounds exactly like the Filipino guy's the women here are trying to get away from when they agree to a guy from another country.
Trying to put yourself forward as some kind of legend PUA who is going to start a blog of tip's etc is just laughable.
AV.[/QUOTE]I am glad you are touched.
Fail? LMAO Just being in the Philippines (traveling) is a win as far as I am concerned. That is not even mentioning fucking tons of girls all for nothing more than some beers, a movie, or a cheap mall lunch.
No money? Traveled for 2 months straight (4 different countries) staying in hotels, eating out every meal, partying every night, taking trips to islands with girls, etc etc. Tbt, I just started back work this past month. Took a 6 month vacation / break from work. But yea I had no money.
Legend PUA? Haha Banging girls in the 3rd world takes nothing more than a beating heart. That is my tip.
All joking aside, you come across as a petty hater. I'll pray for you.
CaliPro doesn't have the most eloquent writing style, but I don think he deserves this kind of criticism. He warned readers in the intro that it would be a rather ragged, half-assed diary which was originally for a different audience. I appreciate his honesty and I can relate to the things he experienced. Thank you CaliPro.
AV, I appreciate your earlier explanation of cell phone technology and your canny ability to get freebies in AC, but how about a proper review yourself. You are apparently in AC. Hotel? Restaurant? Bar? Photos? X Man.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1601987]Thanks for copy & pasting something posted on some other forum. I'm touched.
I tried really hard to force myself to read through all of this but it comes across as a whole lot of fail as far as I am concerned.
Let's see, you have no money, no manners & very clue as to what you are on about & spent much of your time alone. Sounds exactly like the Filipino guy's the women here are trying to get away from when they agree to a guy from another country.
Trying to put yourself forward as some kind of legend PUA who is going to start a blog of tip's etc is just laughable.
AV.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=XMan;1602046]CaliPro doesn't have the most eloquent writing style, but I don think he deserves this kind of criticism. He warned readers in the intro that it would be a rather ragged, half-assed diary which was originally for a different audience. I appreciate his honesty and I can relate to the things he experienced. Thank you CaliPro.
AV, I appreciate your earlier explanation of cell phone technology and your canny ability to get freebies in AC, but how about a proper review yourself. You are apparently in AC. Hotel? Restaurant? Bar? Photos? X Man.[/QUOTE]Yeah well we disagree on CP's FR's ok? And may I ask what constitutes a 'proper review' in your esteemed opinion? I live here in a very nice condo but occasionaly use hotels for convenience. I would have thought I had posted an embarrassing amount of info about my misadventures lately. In any event don't expect forensic detail but feel free to ask for details, I may be able to provide details.
Cheers X!
AV
I think I said that I appreciated your womanizing posts, so no need to get sarcastic. I don't have an "esteemed opinion". Anyone who has been to AC already knows that getting a nice vage attached to your equipment is about as common in AC as seeing a drunk tattooed obnoxious Australian tottering down the lane with his favorite flip flops.
Jokes aside, I'll leave it up to AV to share information about hotels, restaurants, bars. AV's conquest and cell phone info are certainly valuable and / or interesting. And if I might add some sarcasm myself, I'm really excited to hear that AV ventured way out into the Perimeter badlands and discovered PonyTail. Holy cow. Did you take a trike or a jeepney to get out to that remote location? Personally, I'm mesmerized by the skinny gal who runs the pool table at PT. X.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1602072]Yeah well we disagree on CP's FR's ok? And may I ask what constitutes a 'proper review' in your esteemed opinion? I live here in a very nice condo but occasionaly use hotels for convenience. I would have thought I had posted an embarrassing amount of info about my misadventures lately. In any event don't expect forensic detail but feel free to ask for details, I may be able to provide details.
Cheers X!
AV[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Amavida;1601987]Thanks for copy & pasting something posted on some other forum. I'm touched.
I tried really hard to force myself to read through all of this but it comes across as a whole lot of fail as far as I am concerned.
Let's see, you have no money, no manners & very clue as to what you are on about & spent much of your time alone. Sounds exactly like the Filipino guy's the women here are trying to get away from when they agree to a guy from another country.
Trying to put yourself forward as some kind of legend PUA who is going to start a blog of tip's etc is just laughable
AV.[/QUOTE]Agree with every word you state. His story about the toilet tissue wrapped around the leaky todger will go down in the ISG annals as being that of a a dangerously inept amateur at play.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1602322]Agree with every word you state. His story about the toilet tissue wrapped around the leaky todger will go down in the ISG annals as being that of a a dangerously inept amateur at play.[/QUOTE]And three days with a dripping dick before he decides to self-diagnose (during which time he was presumably banging other SYTs)! Incredible!
[QUOTE=Ikksman;1602323]And three days with a dripping dick before he decides to self-diagnose (during which time he was presumably banging other SYTs)! Incredible![/QUOTE]Is self-diagnosis the right diagnosis? And there are STIs that are asymptomatic. Trust me; I know. One could correctly determine one STI and miss another one. Or two.
There have been 100's of man-hours spent writing about Calipro and his drippy dick but nothing that has been written here is going to change his or anyone else's behaviour about this. I guess it allows guys to vent about CP but he probably has the last laugh as he is not the one wasting time criticizing him.
What do we learn from this example of dripping dicks?
Simply that there are at any given time likely to be a proportion of the mongering population roaming around AC and other mongering areas who are carrying some dreaded STI in various stages of incubation and development. Most of these guys will not be on ISG or any other website.
Many probably don't know if they are carrying anything or what it is (are asymptomatic).
Some will know and not care about it and will keep on at their hobby, despite the disgust expressed here by posters.
The moral for me would be to always cover up when I am in a specifically designated zone of prostitution. Nobody knows where ANY girl has been in the week leading up to your visit, not whether she has been with a trike driver, another foreigner or, more worryingly, a pinoy seafarer just back from his travels to all the world's fleshpots with a pocket full of cash to throw around while it lasts. This latter guy could have ANYTHING, and it might well be an exotic strain too (from a port in Africa or PNG for example)
Anybody with recent experience with money changers in the City of Manila: Are they taking USD50 bills? I've never taken them anything bigger than a 20. Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=SkipKost;1602382]Anybody with recent experience with money changers in the City of Manila: Are they taking USD50 bills? I've never taken them anything bigger than a 20. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Yes, they do take $50 USD bills, provided they are like "new". Just returned from Manila in late June. I always take new 100's and 50's and have no problem exchanging them. They might want to offer you a lower rate than what is posted for the 100's, but just go to another place if they try that. They will take 20's, but maybe offer you a lower exchange rate. Always go to a place that posts the exchange rate on a board. That way you don't have to ask what the rate is. Even if it differs by. 1, when you change 100, then the. 1 becomes. 10 whole pesos.
Hi,
I will be visiting Manila soon. Kindly suggest a better place for nightlife, Bars with live Music and Mongering after work. It is Ermita or Pt Burgos. Accordingly I will book a hotel either in Ermita or Makati.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Tercar66;1602496]Hi,
I will be visiting Manila soon. Kindly suggest a better place for nightlife, Bars with live Music and Mongering after work. It is Ermita or Pt Burgos. Accordingly I will book a hotel either in Ermita or Makati.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Ermita is kinda dumpy and dangerous. There are homeless sleeping on the sidewalk everywhere. And all that is there is LA Cafe and Robinson's mall, both of which is lower rent places. There are some ok hotels in the area. And there are hotel buses to Angeles and subic from the swagman and southern cross hotels.
Burgos is good as it is cleaner, and has upper class hotels for an ok price. The Tune Hotel is ok and can be found cheap online. Burgos has alot of open cafes with alot of girls on the street. It is also near Greenbelt 3 mall which has Havana cafe at night with FL's and has movies, restaurants etc.
If I were you, I'd stay on Burgos and hit Ermita for a night, especially if you are to head off to AC, and want to be near the buses.
[QUOTE=SkipKost;1602382]Anybody with recent experience with money changers in the City of Manila: Are they taking USD50 bills? I've never taken them anything bigger than a 20. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Fiddys are fine but be sure to change 2 of them. Exchange rate is less for anything under $100.00.
Update as of August 1.
Bar Fine.
For the bar: 1950.
Short time: 3 hours, 3,000.
Long time: 5 hours, 5,000.
Was there last night, very slow, no more than 5 - 10 customers per bar. Mostly Japanese. Took a girl for short time which ended staying till 10 am. Only wanted 3 k.
[QUOTE=Tercar66;1602496]Hi,
I will be visiting Manila soon. Kindly suggest a better place for nightlife, Bars with live Music and Mongering after work. It is Ermita or Pt Burgos. Accordingly I will book a hotel either in Ermita or Makati.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Simple answer is ermita is cheap for mongering. Makati can be expensive. If you are looking for 9-10 girls Makati is best.
Hotelwise you can find cheap hotels in both places. In Ermita you can just walk around and scope the freelancer girls. Makati has lots more Ladyboys than ermita.
As for street kids and homeless it is there everywhere in Phi.
[QUOTE=Tercar66;1602496]Hi,
I will be visiting Manila soon. Kindly suggest a better place for nightlife, Bars with live Music and Mongering after work. It is Ermita or Pt Burgos. Accordingly I will book a hotel either in Ermita or Makati.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Like so many things, you are the one to determine which is best for you, not us. I stayed exclusively in malate for 15+yrs. , then a girl, not a bar girl, suggested we look at the New World hotel in Makati. We both went there to look at rooms, and I stayed there 4 nights my next trip and checked out the Makati scene / bars. Now I stay one week in Makati, one week in malate, with a side trip to Cebu city, of course. When in malate it is a short walk to LA caf, short taxi ride to EDSA, short taxi ride to Harrison's, very short walk to Robinson's, where you can pick up non=pro women in the supermarket if you just talk to them.
In Makati the malls are huge and you will get lost in greenbelt / glorietta if you are alone for the first time. Burgos st. Is always jumping, etc. Try both, each offers their own sorts of delights, which the members here write about at length.
News reports have it that Delta Airlines began using Terminal 3 on August 1st, and four other international carriers will be moving in over the next month. I've been in and out of 1 and 2 numerous times, but the closest I've been to 3 is some authentic looking film footage in The Bourne Legacy. I've checked the terminal map for layout of the critical elements, but the map doesn't indicate small details like sim card and load vendors in the terminal. If it's like NAIA 1, I would expect them near the money changers, which appear to be near the exit for metered taxis. Anybody been through there lately and note any sim and load vendors? If so, where are they?
Thanks, Skip.
[QUOTE=SkipKost;1603286]News reports have it that Delta Airlines began using Terminal 3 on August 1st, and four other international carriers will be moving in over the next month. I've been in and out of 1 and 2 numerous times, but the closest I've been to 3 is some authentic looking film footage in The Bourne Legacy. I've checked the terminal map for layout of the critical elements, but the map doesn't indicate small details like sim card and load vendors in the terminal. If it's like NAIA 1, I would expect them near the money changers, which appear to be near the exit for metered taxis. Anybody been through there lately and note any sim and load vendors? If so, where are they?
Thanks, Skip.[/QUOTE]No specific load vendors. Some of the coffee shops have load vending machines which are easy to use. Its a bit of a clusterfuck. Near the departure lounge seating as I recall.
Cheers Skip,
AV.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1603288]No specific load vendors. Some of the coffee shops have load vending machines which are easy to use. Its a bit of a clusterfuck. Near the departure lounge seating as I recall.
Cheers Skip,
AV.[/QUOTE]On exit there are Globe and Smart kiosks in the baggage hall and some also outside. I use T3 a lot and sometime you up my SIMs before I go and get the overpriced taxis.
Nice flight from Japan on Cebu Pacific, but it was a 2 hour + wait / que for a metered taxi.
[QUOTE=JpSlicky;1603333]Nice flight from Japan on Cebu Pacific, but it was a 2 hour + wait / que for a metered taxi.[/QUOTE]A good point JP as I noted in a much earlier FR that unless they did something about the taxis. The scams, the lack of white / yellow. At peak times the 'efficiency' of T3 will be lost on international passengers. Prices will increase for those who don't want to wait 2 hours or who can't / don't want to go to the arrivals area to try and get a cheaper white cab (but even there the queues can be horrible).
Using the domestic airline and arriving at the wrong time of day can be bad enough let alone with lots of other international passengers IMHO but it is something we will suffer as we love the Philippines.
I will pick my flights carefully as I use some of those carriers who now fly to T3. But this could mean I don't hang around Manila as much and just transfer to the domestic flight as no real traffic hassles getting from T1 to T3 anymore.
On the plus side (I hope) the air con (AC) will be better than T1, it is a cleaner airport, but the taxis could be an issue as you rightly pointed out.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1603337]The scams, the lack of white / yellow. At peak times the 'efficiency' of T3 will be lost on international passengers. Prices will increase for those who don't want to wait 2 hours or who can't / don't want to go to the arrivals area to try and get a cheaper white cab (but even there the queues can be horrible).
Using the domestic airline and arriving at the wrong time of day can be bad enough let alone with lots of other international passengers IMHO but it is something we will suffer as we love the Philippines.
[/QUOTE]I recall Resorts World (RW), which is across the street from terminal 3, has a shuttle bus that runs to / from the terminals. If the wait for a taxi at NAIA is particularly bad I'd take the shuttle to RW and hail a taxi there. Of the dozen times I've been to RW I've never had more than a few-minute wait for a taxi. Just a thought.
Thanks H, WR, AV, JP.
Sounds like sim and load will be the least of my worries. I like the idea of RW as an outlet for taxis. I wonder how long it will take the taxi Gods to figure out that traffic has moved from Terminal 1 to 3.
I tried going up to the departure area to get an incoming taxi, but with the guards at the door there it is a one way check valve and cannot get out to the in coming, Yellow cab must have paid a hefty fee or bribe for the rights to service outbound, arrival passengers be dammed.
[QUOTE=JpSlicky;1603759]I tried going up to the departure area to get an incoming taxi, but with the guards at the door there it is a one way check valve and cannot get out to the in coming, Yellow cab must have paid a hefty fee or bribe for the rights to service outbound, arrival passengers be dammed.[/QUOTE]Actually, that's not true. One time I dropped my lady off in the departure area to catch her flight back to the provinces, and accompanied her to the check-in counter, and had to walk out to catch another taxi on the upper level. There is one door at the very end where you can go back out, and catch a white meter taxi.
RG.
[QUOTE=JpSlicky;1603759]I tried going up to the departure area to get an incoming taxi, but with the guards at the door there it is a one way check valve and cannot get out to the in coming, Yellow cab must have paid a hefty fee or bribe for the rights to service outbound, arrival passengers be dammed.[/QUOTE]To JP.
The last time I was at terminal 3 just arrive from Hong Kong I go uo to arrival to get a taxi just drop off customer and all taxi driver asking 600 p to Malate, I think they all work together on this but terminal one is different I can still get taxi driver to just use the meter, so what I did is catch a free shuttle to the Resort world casino across the st have lunch there and get a meter taxi there to Malate.
Fast eddie 48.
I went up there after looking at the que and there were guards at the only one or two doors you can exit.
I always thought only Cebu flew in and out of T3, until my ANA (United code share) connecting flight from Tokyo landed there about 4 weeks ago. I had a dating site girl waiting at T1. I assumed it would land at T1, like my United flight from Guam. Both my cell was dead on arrival, so for the first time, I had to ditch a pre-arranged girl. Ended up at Havana.
Checking in at Terminal 3. It is a lot faster and getting into the Terminal 3 is a lot cleaner unlike Terminal 1. You see that huge crowd at T1. And T3 is a lot newer airport. I think T1 handles a lot more OFW's. At the present moment, I have only seen ANA check-in counter apart from the CP counters. There are more coffee shops here at T3 than T1. I have never seen a business class lounge. So, not sure if there is one.
Checking Out of Terminal 3. I like it better because the immigration crew is a lot younger and seem to just stamp and let you off. At T1, the Immigration crew is a lot older, and tend to look you up more closely. None of the horizontal escalators work, so usually a long walk from gate to the immigration point. And almost always, the bags are always out before I get to the carousel. As you walk out, before you go outside, ATM machines to your left. And there are SIM kiosks. I did buy a SIM once, and got ripped off. So, check carefully what you are getting. Read the card they hand over to you.
Taxi's. As you get out, the yellow taxi's are to your right. And yes, always a long wait but not all the time. I never had to wait longer than 20 minutes. I will not comment on the white taxi's as I never use them. If my memory serves me right, metered charge comes to about 170 to 190 pesos to get to Makati.
Location. This is the part I like the best. T3 is closer to Makati. If you use T1, the taxis come all the way around the airport and pass T3, before getting into Makati area. So, you save about 15 to 20 minutes here. This compensates for the taxi wait. The taxi gets on the highway within 5 minutes, and gets off just after about 5 minutes and then surface road in Makati. The ride is only about 20 to 30 minutes to where the Intercon is, depending on traffic in Makati. Always ask for the highway, and it will cost you an extra 20 pesos.
They also have a free shuttle bus that takes you to the Casino hotels. I think every hour. It is right in between the white taxi stand and yellow taxi stand across the way. Ask the security outside, and they will point it out. You do not need to show proof of stay. Just tell them you are going there. I did this twice when I stayed at the Marriott. If you are lugging luggage, use the taxi! If you are going across on a taxi, the drivers will grumble. My next trip, I will try to get a taxi at departure and see if that works. I will report back.
I do not think T3 has enough gates to support all flights coming in from T1. If they do come over to T3, then T3 will turn into a nightmare.
[QUOTE=CoolTraveler;1606294]I always thought only Cebu flew in and out of T3, until my ANA (United code share) connecting flight from Tokyo landed there about 4 weeks ago.
I do not think T3 has enough gates to support all flights coming in from T1. If they do come over to T3, then T3 will turn into a nightmare.[/QUOTE]PAL also has a few flights at T3 so always best check as I have seen a few guys in your position CT.
T3 taxis I suspect will be worse when the 5 international carriers all land there, business class lounges I am checking as I am told by a fellow ISG friend that Singapore does not and as he flies SQ a lot he is one very unhappy bunny.
I agree with the 'gates' comment and suspect the local carriers will be pushed to parking without an air bridge at times. Already I have noticed Cebu Pacific using gates 134 etc more so that means a bus ride where they try to shove 60 people into a bus fit for 30! Can't see T3 dong that for the international airlines.
But above all this, the main problem is the airports have 1 main runway and congestion in the sky is the norm especially mid afternoon. Is a mess and the equipment is third world IMHO so having a cleaner terminal, etc is nice but if you are circling Manila for 45+ minutes (as I have done!) it really takes the gloss of everything.
Hey,
I'm in Manila for 2 days and I'd love to get some advice on the best place to find a freelancer. I'm near the Shangri la Plaza (Mandaluyong). I was thinking of heading to QC but not sure. I also read that Edsa IEC is kinda expensive and not good any more. Thoughts?
I went to the Eastwood Citywalk last night. Nothing. Just groups of people having a good time, nothing at the Metro Citywalk near my hotel either.
I'll post a report later if there's something worthy of reporting.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Firdau;1608164]Hey,
I'm in Manila for 2 days and I'd love to get some advice on the best place to find a freelancer. [/QUOTE]Hey, read the forum and you will see that LA Cafe in Malate is best for freelancers. Geez.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1606657]PAL also has a few flights at T3 so always best check as I have seen a few guys in your position CT.
T3 taxis I suspect will be worse when the 5 international carriers all land there, business class lounges I am checking as I am told by a fellow ISG friend that Singapore does not and as he flies SQ a lot he is one very unhappy bunny.
I agree with the 'gates' comment and suspect the local carriers will be pushed to parking without an air bridge at times. Already I have noticed Cebu Pacific using gates 134 etc more so that means a bus ride where they try to shove 60 people into a bus fit for 30! Can't see T3 dong that for the international airlines.
But above all this, the main problem is the airports have 1 main runway and congestion in the sky is the norm especially mid afternoon. Is a mess and the equipment is third world IMHO so having a cleaner terminal, etc is nice but if you are circling Manila for 45+ minutes (as I have done!) it really takes the gloss of everything.[/QUOTE]And just think, it only took this country ten years or so to build a terminal that was totally out of date before its doors opened. Delta now uses it, Cathay will use it as of next month, in addition to Cebu Pacific amd some PAL flights. I think other international carriers are also moving over. Of course there aren't sufficient gates, so, consistent with airport practice circa 1965, buses make up the slack. This may also be the only terminal I've ever seen outside Africa that doesn't have an Arrivals / Departure schedule in the main lobby, so if you enter he terminal with a boarding pass for a domestic flight, lots of luck trying to figure out where your gate might be.
WR is correct. Everything about the airport is inadequate, out of date, and fairly shabby. Only one runway can be used at a time, the ground landing equipment was antique ten years ago, and the amenities are a joke. Further, there are no immediate plans, as far as I know, to build anything new. I guess the country will wait for some donor or other to come give them the money to build something, but for the moment, the air travel situation deteriorates year by year. Together with all of the other transport infrastructure.
NAIA is a virtual meme for political incompetence.
GE.
Hey,
I'm soon in Manila / Makati (still don't know). Can anyone help me to find the pearls that are skinny, tiny but legal. I like them on their 18. So if you can help or let me come with you, it would be fun.
If any local guy want to be my sexguide there, I would appreciate. I'm fully straight, ready for many games like 3 some, parties, gang.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1608235]
WR is correct. Everything about the airport is inadequate, out of date, and fairly shabby. Only one runway can be used at a time, the ground landing equipment was antique ten years ago, and the amenities are a joke. Further, there are no immediate plans, as far as I know, to build anything new. I guess the country will wait for some donor or other to come give them the money to build something, but for the moment, the air travel situation deteriorates year by year. Together with all of the other transport infrastructure.
NAIA is a virtual meme for political incompetence.
GE.[/QUOTE]Well put. A few websites with info: [URL]http://www.flightstats.com/go/Airport/airportDetails.do?airport=MNL&x=0&y=0[/URL] and I loved this:
[I]Manila Ninoy Aquino International Airport (airport code MNL) is the main gateway to the Manila Metro Area and all the Philippines islands. Manila Airport has four terminals, 1, 2, and 3, which oversee international travelers, and Domestic Terminal serving local carriers. The airport managed more than 27 million passengers in 2010, which put it in the top 50 for world's busiest airports. Served by 29 airlines, the airport is also a hub for travel throughout Asia.[B] About four miles south of Manila, there is a 2-kilometer taxi ride to the Light Rail Transit line that takes travelers into the city. [/B]The Manila Airport Hotel is on-site next to Terminal 1.[/I]
Do international travelers grab their luggage and then take the LRT?
And an official site:
[URL]http://www.manila-airport.net/[/URL]
LA Cafe is in Ermita. Just a few blocks north of Malate.
[QUOTE=DCups;1608212]Hey, read the forum and you will see that LA Cafe in Malate is best for freelancers. Geez.[/QUOTE]
I think all the airlines are running away from T1 because of the renovation. According to a senior airport personnel I talked to, when I was last there at T1. The airport received a 1.5 Billion peso from the Govt. To renovate. And his follow up comment - "but non one at the airport knows what they are building or renovating. It is a mystery. "
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1608374]Well put. A few websites with info: [URL]http://www.flightstats.com/go/Airport/airportDetails.do?airport=MNL&x=0&y=0[/URL] and I loved this:
[I]Manila Ninoy Aquino International Airport (airport code MNL) is the main gateway to the Manila Metro Area and all the Philippines islands. Manila Airport has four terminals, 1, 2, and 3, which oversee international travelers, and Domestic Terminal serving local carriers. The airport managed more than 27 million passengers in 2010, which put it in the top 50 for world's busiest airports. Served by 29 airlines, the airport is also a hub for travel throughout Asia.[B] About four miles south of Manila, there is a 2-kilometer taxi ride to the Light Rail Transit line that takes travelers into the city. [/B]The Manila Airport Hotel is on-site next to Terminal 1.[/I]
Do international travelers grab their luggage and then take the LRT?
And an official site:
[URL]http://www.manila-airport.net/[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1608235]NAIA is a virtual meme for political incompetence. This may also be the only terminal I've ever seen outside Africa that doesn't have an Arrivals / Departure schedule in the main lobby [/QUOTE]True GE. We also have operational NAIA and Cebu Pacific incompetence. I recently flew into Terminal 3 on Cebu Pacific from Thailand. We rolled up to gate 111 (I think it was) and stopped 10 metres short of the air-bridge. Stairs were rolled up and we descended to the tarmac only to climb the side steps to the inoperative air-bridge which had the welcoming sign "sorry for the inconvenience" displayed. Then the long walk to immigration because the horizontal conveyor belt also had the "sorry for the inconvenience" sign up. I have never seen it operative. It is a brand new (but 10 year old) terminal and you would hope sooner or later we would have a fully operational terminal. And yes GE who would think an electronic arrivals-departures board would be an essential requirement at an international airport. Maybe one day.
[QUOTE=KongKing;1609373]True GE. We also have operational NAIA and Cebu Pacific incompetence. I recently flew into Terminal 3 on Cebu Pacific from Thailand. We rolled up to gate 111 (I think it was) and stopped 10 metres short of the air-bridge. Stairs were rolled up and we descended to the tarmac only to climb the side steps to the inoperative air-bridge which had the welcoming sign "sorry for the inconvenience" displayed. .[/QUOTE]Some of this airbridge stuff is a cost issue. Costs more to park a plane at the air bridge, than to have people stop, go down stairs then up again.
Sadly the children who run CP (thanks Lance!) assume no one will notice, or not care. Filipinos are great at doing what they are told with nary a complaint.
[QUOTE=KongKing;1609373]It is a brand new (but 10 year old) terminal and you would hope sooner or later we would have a fully operational terminal. And yes GE who would think an electronic arrivals-departures board would be an essential requirement at an international airport. Maybe one day.[/QUOTE]Have recently been through KLIA2 the new low cost carrier terminal in KL. Despite the extremely long walks to the passport / immigration area it makes NAIA T1 look like something from the 1930's and has all the mod cons including electronic sign boards, plenty of baggage carousels etc It is how T3 should be.
Was a lovely experience. Then you go to NAIA T1 and get mightily disappointed in life LOL.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1609562]Have recently been through KLIA2 the new low cost carrier terminal in KL. Despite the extremely long walks to the passport / immigration area it makes NAIA T1 look like something from the 1930's and has all the mod cons including electronic sign boards, plenty of baggage carousels etc It is how T3 should be.
Was a lovely experience. Then you go to NAIA T1 and get mightily disappointed in life LOL.[/QUOTE]To WG.
I didn't know the new KL LLC terminal is finally open after so many delay it must of just open, thank for the warning I have a Air Asia flight out of KL next month but I travel light should be ok.
Fast eddie 48.
[QUOTE=XMan;1609355]LA Cafe is in Ermita. Just a few blocks north of Malate.[/QUOTE]Corner of Del Pilar and Salas. Definitely Ermita.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1606657]T3 taxis I suspect will be worse when the 5 international carriers all land there, business class lounges I am checking as I am told by a fellow ISG friend that Singapore does not and as he flies SQ a lot he is one very unhappy bunny.[/QUOTE]Just saw a newsflash on the Singapore airlines website. They are moving to T3 effective Sep 1.
[QUOTE=JpSlicky;1603759]I tried going up to the departure area to get an incoming taxi, but with the guards at the door there it is a one way check valve and cannot get out to the in coming, Yellow cab must have paid a hefty fee or bribe for the rights to service outbound, arrival passengers be dammed.[/QUOTE]The guards don't really check. I have always breezed right past them and out onto the departures taxi ramp. They only check folks getting *into* the airport. Take the lifts at the left end of the arrivals floor (as you exits customs) and go to floor 2.
[QUOTE=JpSlicky;1603759]I tried going up to the departure area to get an incoming taxi, but with the guards at the door there it is a one way check valve and cannot get out to the in coming, Yellow cab must have paid a hefty fee or bribe for the rights to service outbound, arrival passengers be dammed.[/QUOTE]The exits are on the far right end of the departure level. The last couple of door are for departing friends / family who went to the airport to say bye.
With the increased airlines utilizing T3 they will have to go to only ticketed passengers allowed to enter like they do in T1 and 2.
[QUOTE=Robbaf;1610690]The exits are on the far right end of the departure level. The last couple of door are for departing friends / family who went to the airport to say bye.
With the increased airlines utilizing T3 they will have to go to only ticketed passengers allowed to enter like they do in T1 and 2.[/QUOTE]And then we have the fun and games of getting past security, who sometimes arent sure of what there job is.
"Sorrr, show me your ticket.
" Its on my tablet".
" Sorr, I need to see your ticket.
" As I said its on my tablet and its just a QR code".
" Sorr show me your ticket.
Or for those in a really prickly mood (too much sex, to much beer and too little sleep will often create that mood ").
" Sorr, show me your passport".
" Are you an immigration official, or an official member of the police?
" No Sir, just security.
" Then I can't show you my passport.
" OK Sorr, please proceed ". LOL.
I'm not sure why getting transportation from the airport seems tp be a major hassle. Yesterday, just before exiting terminal 3, I turned on my Uber app and had a very nice Mitsubishi Montero with driver, pick me up within a few minutes. The total cost of getting to my hotel in Makati was Php165 or so. The whole process was efficient, pleasant and prompt. To an increasing extent, Uber is becoming my preferred means of getting around Manila.
GE.
I came in through T1 late in the evening and straight into a taxi, and left via T3, which was quiet, and (unbelievably) efficient.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1608235]And just think, it only took this country ten years or so to build a terminal that was totally out of date before its doors opened. Delta now uses it, Cathay will use it as of next month, in addition to Cebu Pacific amd some PAL flights. I think other international carriers are also moving over. Of course there aren't sufficient gates, so, consistent with airport practice circa 1965, buses make up the slack. This may also be the only terminal I've ever seen outside Africa that doesn't have an Arrivals / Departure schedule in the main lobby, so if you enter he terminal with a boarding pass for a domestic flight, lots of luck trying to figure out where your gate might be.
WR is correct. Everything about the airport is inadequate, out of date, and fairly shabby. Only one runway can be used at a time, the ground landing equipment was antique ten years ago, and the amenities are a joke. Further, there are no immediate plans, as far as I know, to build anything new. I guess the country will wait for some donor or other to come give them the money to build something, but for the moment, the air travel situation deteriorates year by year. Together with all of the other transport infrastructure.
NAIA is a virtual meme for political incompetence.
GE.[/QUOTE]GF, I've been reading your posts since about 2006. Your post count well over 2 k beats my twitter 140 character posts since 2008. I love that your writing is better than ever. Fantastic commentary here. I love black humor, and maybe that's why the beauty of the PH woman sits well alongside the lowest common denominator that we see so much in the PH, especially at the creepy / scary Manila airport.
WL.
[QUOTE=CallSignPapa;1611290]I came in through T1 late in the evening and straight into a taxi, and left via T3, which was quiet, and (unbelievably) efficient.[/QUOTE]Pigs must be flying and the moon must blue CSP as that is rare. Yes I have had the same but as I fly through booth terminals regularly I am fully aware of the horrible list of issues any traveler faces. In the press today it is said the upgrade to the public toilets will be complete by Christmas! Question I why was there no recurring maintenance and why did it take some poor Chinese tourist to be bitten by an inspector's pet dog to get anything done. Answer is total incompetence by the airport management who are regularly criticized by the netziens / bloggers but as the head in charge is one of a famous family no one (not even the President0 will terminate him.
Am happy you had a great experience but 99% of my travels through T1 especially are dire, depressing and sweaty now as the air cons still have to be fitted!
GE is another very regular traveler and he and I share the same views on this. Read his FRs as a seasoned traveler I rank T1 as the lowest of the low (I don't count some African airports as they don't pretend to be first rate or be a developed country).
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1610701]
Or for those in a really prickly mood (too much sex, to much beer and too little sleep will often create that mood ").
" Sorr, show me your passport".
" Are you an immigration official, or an official member of the police?
" No Sir, just security.
" Then I can't show you my passport.
" OK Sorr, please proceed ". LOL.[/QUOTE]Obiwon: "These aren't the droids you're looking for. ".
Evil Empire Security Police: "These aren't the droids we're looking for. ".
I have attached a screen capture of the Terminal 3 map provided on their website. It is generally accurate, except that it does not show the location of immigration booths. But signage is generally improved over Terminal 1, so nobody should have a problem finding them. Whereas in T1 passengers clear immigration before picking up luggage, this is reversed at T3.
The cell phone kiosks are not shown on the map, but they are in the outer layer where the information booth and money changers are shown. All of these were open when I arrived at 10 pm.
I came and went via Delta and also took a domestic flight to and from Tacloban via PAL in between, also through T3. I was one of the first off the Delta flight, cleared immigration, luggage, and customs quickly, and was climbing into a yellow metered cab within about 20 minutes of arrival. There was no wait for a yellow cab, although those getting off the plane later may have experienced some wait. Returning from Tacloban at 6 pm was a different story. About an hour long line for yellow cabs. Yellow cab fare to my hotel (near UN Avenue and Taft in Ermita) was about 330 php both times, plus 20 php (which the passenger pays) through a toll gate getting onto the Southern Expressway. I was quoted a price for coupon taxi of 850 php for the same destination and there would not have been any wait. I had a coupon quote of 650 for a sedan and 800 for a small van to Makati, so presumably yellow cab is a little less than 300. Six months earlier I paid 330 for a yellow cab to near the same area in Ermita from T1, but without a toll charge. So I think Ermita and Malate may not be much cheaper from T3, but Makati would seem to be closer from T3.
My flight to Tacloban was in a Dash-8 turboprop, which is fairly short takeoff and landing. We took off on a southeast heading (13) on the shorter cross runway, thus essentially crossing the path of the longer SW-NE runway. It was 5 am, so presumably not much conflicting traffic. Return flight on an A320 landed on a northeast heading on the longer runway. While waiting for my Delta departure I saw a smaller jet take off on a northwest heading on the shorter cross runway. So the shorter cross runway is apparently being used for some STOL planes.
Driver of the white metered cab that brought me to the airport when I left described hanging out on the departure level looking for fares who have ridden up from the arrival level. But he said security guards have caught on and do not let them stick around without paying a bribe of at least 20 php. It's still better than driving away empty.
I believe there is still room for expansion at T3. Looking at it via Google Earth there appear to be 18 skybridges for arrival gates at T3, which is more than at T1. There are also about eight apron parking spaces at the northwest end of T3. My PAL flights, both coming and going, used this apron area, with a bus transporting us between terminal and plane. The departure counters at T3 also seem to be much more efficiently laid out, and departure gate seating seems to be larger. Now if the Philippine government can only improve their security checkpoint so that the airlines don't have to add an additional layer of security check.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1610744]I'm not sure why getting transportation from the airport seems tp be a major hassle. Yesterday, just before exiting terminal 3, I turned on my Uber app and had a very nice Mitsubishi Montero with driver, pick me up within a few minutes. The total cost of getting to my hotel in Makati was Php165 or so. The whole process was efficient, pleasant and prompt. To an increasing extent, Uber is becoming my preferred means of getting around Manila.
GE.[/QUOTE]Really 165 by a Montero?
Sounds like steal and cheaper than Grab Taxi app.
BTW, Turbo props, antique planes flying in PH, and A319/320's to nearby destinations use the shorter runway.
319/320 to distant places like KL / SG still have to use the longer runway.
[QUOTE=SkipKost;1612127]
My flight to Tacloban was in a Dash-8 turboprop, which is fairly short takeoff and landing. We took off on a southeast heading (13) on the shorter cross runway, thus essentially crossing the path of the longer SW-NE runway. It was 5 am, so presumably not much conflicting traffic. Return flight on an A320 landed on a northeast heading on the longer runway. While waiting for my Delta departure I saw a smaller jet take off on a northwest heading on the shorter cross runway. So the shorter cross runway is apparently being used for some STOL planes.[/QUOTE]They use mentioned runway not only for STOL aircrafts SK. A couple of times heading for BKK in Cebu Pacific's A320 we have used this runway for take off. I guess windcondition and aircrafts payload comes to play here. The BKK flights in mention was not crowded at all so probably not a to heavy aircraft.
[QUOTE=EconoTech;1612193]BTW, Turbo props, antique planes flying in PH, and A319/320's to nearby destinations use the shorter runway.
319/320 to distant places like KL / SG still have to use the longer runway.[/QUOTE]My incoming Delta flight (about 2 1/2 weeks ago) got diverted back to Japan when we were within 35 minutes of NAIA. Pilot announced that a plane had skidded off a runway or taxiway and was blocking the movement of other planes. Bummer. We spent another day at the airport in Nagoya and got packed into the next night's flight. After I arrived I read in the paper that the plane in question was Saudi, and that smaller planes "such as A320's" were allowed to land, while larger planes were diverted. Half a dozen or so landed at Angeles and a couple more at Taipei. Our pilot claimed the various airports could not accommodate any additional diverted planes. Really? Angeles, with all its runways and taxiways, couldn't find room for another 747? Methinks some personal considerations on the part of the flight crew came into play.
(On the other hand, packing too many diverted planes onto the taxiways of a fog-shrouded airport in the Canary Islands contributed to the worst air disaster in history a few decades ago.)
At the time I was wondering how NAIA was able to land A320's but not bigger planes. The cross runway now seems like a logical explanation.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1611682]
Am happy you had a great experience but 99% of my travels through T1 especially are dire, depressing and sweaty now as the air cons still have to be fitted!
[/QUOTE]I think arriving late at night contributed to my velocitous exit, was as quiet as I've ever seen it (and hand luggage only is definitely the way forward), it was 25 minutes from stepping off the plan to being in taxi. To then get an equally quiet T3 on a Sunday afternoon really did feel like Christmas come early (and it wasn't the only time I came early that week).
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1610701]And then we have the fun and games of getting past security, who sometimes arent sure of what there job is.
"Sorrr, show me your ticket.
" Its on my tablet".
" Sorr, I need to see your ticket.
" As I said its on my tablet and its just a QR code".
" Sorr show me your ticket.
Or for those in a really prickly mood (too much sex, to much beer and too little sleep will often create that mood ").
" Sorr, show me your passport".
" Are you an immigration official, or an official member of the police?
" No Sir, just security.
" Then I can't show you my passport.
" OK Sorr, please proceed ". LOL.[/QUOTE]This refrain shows the true nature of the Phils. Unless they are packing a gun I ignore most of them and even better I have a great foriegner FUCK OFF FACE.
I am typically polite and ask nicely but I don't accept the level of ineptitude that exist in the Philippines.
It is not a place for the rookie traveller that is for sure.
PP.
[QUOTE=SkipKost;1612290]My incoming Delta flight (about 2 1/2 weeks ago) got diverted back to Japan when we were within 35 minutes of NAIA. Pilot announced that a plane had skidded off a runway or taxiway and was blocking the movement of other planes. Bummer. We spent another day at the airport in Nagoya and got packed into the next night's flight. After I arrived I read in the paper that the plane in question was Saudi, and that smaller planes "such as A320's" were allowed to land, while larger planes were diverted. Half a dozen or so landed at Angeles and a couple more at Taipei. Our pilot claimed the various airports could not accommodate any additional diverted planes. Really? Angeles, with all its runways and taxiways, couldn't find room for another 747? Methinks some personal considerations on the part of the flight crew came into play.[/QUOTE]Clark had / has one of the longest runway in Asia I think.
Then again the business houses controlling the economy have all the reasons to make sure t all stays in Manila, like pumping billions into a new airport in reclaimed land (loan guaranteed by the govt anyway) vs a fraction of that to fix Clark.
BTW, Clark has dozens of retired planes parked around and still they have space left to park a hundred.
Recently a Filipino politicos son was raving about why it must be in Manila and I asked how many of those landing in Manila really are staying in Manila vs traveling out.
His reply?
We want all foreigners and locals to experience Manila even if they have no business in Manila (ands add to the congestion and fatten the pockets of the business houses I guess which he didn't say out loud).
Does anyone beside me find it odd how the ladies at MBC / LAC (not to mention Amazonia and G point) look so delicious on the first night in Manila and rather plain on the last night in Manila? How does that happen?
Amazonia: Chatted to two ladies, one of which was very fine. Ms Fine had a fugly friend, which I was polite too. We had a nice conversation, but the specifics of dinero with Ms. Fine were not forthcoming. The usual, "up to you". So, I finished my beer and left. But was surprised to find, first the fugly, then Ms. Fine, wanted tips. After an unsuccessful nego, I didn't think tips were in order. I felt a bit uncomfortable. Am I missing something?
Robinsons ermita: I was surprised to find the National bookstore and TGIF closed. The bookstore was one of my favorite meeting places. TGIF promises to return,but it was never one of my favorite dining choices. The Chinese restaurant across P. Gil street from TGIF is also closed or possibly being renovated. But there is a brand spanking new house of high cuisine on the Malate side of P. Gil -- Yes, another McDonalds. Stayed at Rothman and Executive. Both have been review here before.
Taxi: Airport to Malate. Take the Skyway? Okay, it seems like I have to go thru Makati just to get to Malate. Maybe I should stay at Makati. WTF, with the trucks lined up on Roxas? Apparently this is to reduce congestion on Roxas. It seems to be working, although the taxi drivers now whine about the "heavy traffic" of trucks. For the record, I do sometimes book direct flights to Cebu in order to avoid the Manila traffic and taxi ripoff headache.
[QUOTE=EconoTech;1612880]Clark had / has one of the longest runway in Asia I think.[/QUOTE]Hardly relevant to this Manila forum or to the i"S"g topic but for accuracy we should note:
Clark International runways (2): 3,200 m.
Hong Kong: 3,800 m.
Bangkok Suvarnabhumi: 4,000 m.
Singapore Changi: 4,000 m.
Kuala Lumpur International: 4124 m.
Despite plans to diversify Clark it seems airlines (Emirates, Air Asia, Tiger, Cebu Pacific) have been abandoning or reducing Clark services.
[QUOTE=XMan;1613429]Amazonia: Chatted to two ladies, one of which was very fine. Ms Fine had a fugly friend, which I was polite too. We had a nice conversation, but the specifics of dinero with Ms. Fine were not forthcoming. The usual, "up to you". So, I finished my beer and left. But was surprised to find, first the fugly, then Ms. Fine, wanted tips. After an unsuccessful nego, I didn't think tips were in order. I felt a bit uncomfortable. Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]Yes. The Amazonia girls won't let you out of there without massage (once you sit down). They are typically fugly and don't get taken very often. You might find up to 3 girls massaging your hands, shoulders, and thigh at the same time. It will take you 5-10 minutes to down a beer and chat the girls; then they all want a tip. Its best to either tell the girls you want privacy, or pick one girl and tell her to have the other girls leave you alone.
Few months ago I sat at the bar drinking one afternoon and got the above treatment. I told them no touching, and 3 of the 5 girls standing next to me split. Of the two remaining, one never spoke and the other was not terrible. Late 20's, decent figure, blah face. She kept insisting that we go upstairs to a room or to my hotel. I wasn't interested in a full session, but I figured it might be nice to photograph her naked (assuming the tits and tummy weren't saggy / stretched). Or I could just walk away. After several of her attempts to go to my hotel, I ran thru my short list and said 500 for 2 hours. I figured that would put her off and she'd leave me alone. No such luck: "OK. We go your hotel". Jeez, that was too easy. Once in the hotel I got my pics and we also had a very short session, the whole thing lasted 20-25 minutes, and she did not attempt to leave early, although I let her go at the 1 hour mark. Her body was fine when the clothes came off. Sometimes you get lucky.
[QUOTE=XMan;1613429]Robinsons ermita: I was surprised to find the National bookstore and TGIF closed. The bookstore was one of my favorite meeting places. TGIF promises to return,but it was never one of my favorite dining choices. The Chinese restaurant across P. Gil street from TGIF is also closed or possibly being renovated. But there is a brand spanking new house of high cuisine on the Malate side of P. Gil -- Yes, another McDonalds.[/QUOTE]They are remodeling inside the P Gill side of the mall, it was like that in June also. That new McDo on the corner of P Gil / Adriatico was being built when I was there last Christmas.
I see there's some messy taxi stuff going, so I'll throw in my XP.
I arrived pretty early morning at T3. There was no line through immigration, so that went quick, though Mr. Rubber Stamp was about as friendly as a junk yard dog.
Got a coffee and waited til the sun started to peak before I grabbed a taxi. There was a huge line of coupon and yellow cabs just waiting at about 6:00 am Jumped in a metered yellow cab, and got to Ermita in about 40 minutes. There was a ton of jeepneys with school kids jamming up the road, so 40 seemed reasonable. Total damage on the meter: 222 pesos.
Side Note: I think I booked this area due to LA Cafe, but wow, it's worse than I remembered (the area, not LA Cafe, have not hit that up yet).
I love a good massage, but I don't ever allow some stranger to come up behind me and start touching me. And some of the massage. Wannabe dullards will make faces or call you "stuck up" when you wave them off, which can affect the rest of your stay at that particular bar. But like Westy, I've had some great sessions with gals who aren't phased by this, or maybe aren't influenced by the Asian group mentality. (sorry for the stereotype). If a bar gal can read your mood, make the adjustment, provide some relaxing banter, and offer a good hug / hugs, she may just.
It could be worse! When I first visited the Philippines in Olongapo there were many go go bars that catered to the US military. At the bigger clubs there was often a toilet guy who would massage your back while you were at the urinal. Very uncomfortable for me. I think the EDSA Cotton Club has a toilet guy. Although less aggressive.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1613617]Yes. The Amazonia girls won't let you out of there without massage (once you sit down). They are typically fugly and don't get taken very often. You might find up to 3 girls massaging your hands, shoulders, and thigh at the same time. It will take you 5-10 minutes to down a beer and chat the girls; then they all want a tip. Its best to either tell the girls you want privacy, or pick one girl and tell her to have the other girls leave you alone.
SNIP SNIP Her body was fine when the clothes came off. Sometimes you get lucky.
They are remodeling inside the P Gill side of the mall, it was like that in June also. That new McDo on the corner of P Gil / Adriatico was being built when I was there last Christmas.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=XMan;1613429]Does anyone beside me find it odd how the ladies at MBC / LAC (not to mention Amazonia and G point) look so delicious on the first night in Manila and rather plain on the last night in Manila? How does that happen?
SNIP, SNIP
Taxi: Airport to Malate. Take the Skyway? Okay, it seems like I have to go thru Makati just to get to Malate. Maybe I should stay at Makati. WTF, with the trucks lined up on Roxas? Apparently this is to reduce congestion on Roxas. It seems to be working, although the taxi drivers now whine about the "heavy traffic" of trucks. For the record, I do sometimes book direct flights to Cebu in order to avoid the Manila traffic and taxi ripoff headache.[/QUOTE]I went to G-Point for sightseeing and dinner one evening after I had been in town about a week. Perhaps it was because I had been around lots of Pinays in the preceding week, but I saw no women at G-Point that I would have considered delicious. Mostly women in late 30's and even late 40's, many of them dancing with each other. I did observe several women ordering and paying for their own dinner and wondered if this meant they were of independent means but looking for companionship for the evening. Food that I recalled as having been good in the past was mostly just huge servings and tasteless. Sort of faux European cuisine prepared by Filipinos who have never eaten European cuisine.
The taxi route via the skyway seems to have been prompted by the location of T3--closer to the skyway than to Roxas. The problem with the "skyway" for getting to Malate or Ermita is that all the traffic gets backed up when the road dumps onto Quirino. Traffic coming out of Makati on Gil Puyat, Pablo Ocampo and Zobel Roxas also add to congestion on what's left of the skyway (or Sergio Osmena). There's also construction all along the highway as they build piers to support an eventual real skyway that connects the Southern and Northern Expressways. Projected completion in about three years will undoubtedly drag on well past that.
In February a yellow cab from T1 to Paco Park via Roxas and UN Avenue cost 330 pesos (plus tip). Three weeks ago a yellow cab from T3 to UN and Taft (also near Paco Park) via the "skyway" cost 330 pesos (plus tip and 20 php toll fare). My point is that T3 has clear advantages over T1 for space, air conditioning, and eateries, but if Ermita or Malate is the destination, there are no advantages in taxi travel and possibly some added headaches in waiting for cabs at T3.
Thanks for the add on SK. I've never found the food at G point good, so glad to hear you found a sweet spot at some point in the distant past. My G point gal was 27, and the only one I would have considered on that night. Beer goggles help when in a pinch. The last time I ordered food in LAC I had a few hanger ons and a large plate of pancit made everyone happy. I don't know if they still give those big plates of food.
G point is the kind of place where guys do bring wives or gfs, so mind your manners. As SK suggests they might also have independent means of income. It would be wildly reckless to assume these ladies are getting remittances from some romantic fool from far, far away and just needed to meet up with the old friends and possibly get a good fk on the side. That would be wildly reckless. X.
[QUOTE=SkipKost;1613790]I went to G-Point for sightseeing and dinner one evening after I had been in town about a week. Perhaps it was because I had been around lots of Pinays in the preceding week, but I saw no women at G-Point that I would have considered delicious. Mostly women in late 30's and even late 40's, many of them dancing with each other. I did observe several women ordering and paying for their own dinner and wondered if this meant they were of independent means but looking for companionship for the evening. Food that I recalled as having been good in the past was mostly just huge servings and tasteless. Sort of faux European cuisine prepared by Filipinos who have never eaten European cuisine.
The taxi route via the skyway seems to have been prompted by the location of T3--closer to the skyway than to Roxas. The problem with the "skyway" for getting to Malate or Ermita is that all the traffic gets backed up when the road dumps onto Quirino. Traffic coming out of Makati on Gil Puyat, Pablo Ocampo and Zobel Roxas also add to congestion on what's left of the skyway (or Sergio Osmena). There's also construction all along the highway as they build piers to support an eventual real skyway that connects the Southern and Northern Expressways. Projected completion in about three years will undoubtedly drag on well past that.
In February a yellow cab from T1 to Paco Park via Roxas and UN Avenue cost 330 pesos (plus tip). Three weeks ago a yellow cab from T3 to UN and Taft (also near Paco Park) via the "skyway" cost 330 pesos (plus tip and 20 php toll fare). My point is that T3 has clear advantages over T1 for space, air conditioning, and eateries, but if Ermita or Malate is the destination, there are no advantages in taxi travel and possibly some added headaches in waiting for cabs at T3.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SkipKost;1613790]I went to G-Point for sightseeing and dinner one evening after I had been in town about a week. Perhaps it was because I had been around lots of Pinays in the preceding week, but I saw no women at G-Point that I would have considered delicious. Mostly women in late 30's and even late 40's, many of them dancing with each other. I did observe several women ordering and paying for their own dinner and wondered if this meant they were of independent means but looking for companionship for the evening. Food that I recalled as having been good in the past was mostly just huge servings and tasteless. Sort of faux European cuisine prepared by Filipinos who have never eaten European cuisine.
[/QUOTE]Skip, clear out your PM inbox.
[QUOTE=SkipKost;1613790]I went to G-Point for sightseeing and dinner one evening after I had been in town about a week. Perhaps it was because I had been around lots of Pinays in the preceding week, but I saw no women at G-Point that I would have considered delicious. Mostly women in late 30's and even late 40's, many of them dancing with each other.[/QUOTE]It's a more laid back place for older blokes. From time to time there are some attractive girls there, but most are older with kids and have the battle damage.
[QUOTE=SkipKost;1613790]
The taxi route via the skyway seems to have been prompted by the location of T3--closer to the skyway than to Roxas. The problem with the "skyway" for getting to Malate or Ermita is that all the traffic gets backed up when the road dumps onto Quirino. Traffic coming out of Makati on Gil Puyat, Pablo Ocampo and Zobel Roxas also add to congestion on what's left of the skyway (or Sergio Osmena). There's also construction all along the highway as they build piers to support an eventual real skyway that connects the Southern and Northern Expressways. Projected completion in about three years will undoubtedly drag on well past that.[/QUOTE]Normally I'd never recommend taking the skyway to Malate / Ermita; better to go through Baclaran to Roxas. However, due to the Manila port gridlock the gov't has eliminated the prohibition of trucks on Roxas. This has turned the left lane of the three-lane road into a parking lot as the trucks queue for their loads. I read in the paper that some truckers are waiting up to three days to pick up their loads.
Day 2, Friday February 28, 2014 – Ermita:
So I arrived in MNL after a 24 hour plane flight tired, but ready for some action. My adrenalin was pumping. I mean who could sleep now knowing that hundreds of girls were waiting to meet me all over town and ready to show me a good time. The only question in my mind was whether I should go to MBC as I usually do my first night in town or possibly step up in class and head for the Edsa Entertainment Complex. Since it was past 11:30 pm by the time I checked into the Diamond Hotel and cleaned up a little, I headed for MBC thinking that most of the hot girls at EDSA might already be barfined and I could go to Edsa early prime time Saturday night instead. Actually I like MBC a lot. The international group of customers that frequent this bar and the friendly, but slightly worn FL's that sell their services here create an ambiance and total circus circus that is amazing. But first nights in town at MBC are a problematic for me, because I always seem to get seduced by a friendly, sexy, but rather plain FL's. I have never taken a stunner from this bar. What invariably happens when I choose to hang out in this bar is that my usually high standards for girls begin to slip and become anchored to the standards of the bar. The longer I stay here soaking up the atmosphere and the liquor, the more likely some FL's with a friendly smile and a few sexy moves will win me over. Damn! I am so easy sometimes as was definitely the case this night.
I walked over to MBC. It is only 2 blocks from the Diamond Hotel. It was Friday night and the place was packed. I walked around the bar a couple of times noting all the unattached girls giving me that "I want to have sex with you" look. A couple of girls looked real doable, but I couldn't make up my mind right away. I found an empty bar stool, sat down, and ordered a SML. A few plain girls immediately came by to try their luck. I politely turned them away. Across the other side of the bar, I spotted the prettiest girl in the place, she was a 6. 5* at least, but unfortunately, she was talking to some guy. I paid for my drink so I could walk around some more. I kind of bumped into this friendly girl. She smiled and we both said Hello,. We talked a bit and I noticed that she had a slight Chinese look to her and that she was tall for a Filipina. She seemed friendly enough, but I still wasn't ready to make my selection. I wanted to see if I could find a hotter looking girl, so I moved on.
Sitting back at my bar stool, I sipped my SML and continued looking around. For some reason every time I looked Roschelle's way, our eyes made contact and she smiled. After a while she came by. She stood between my legs so her thigh was up against my crotch. I thought what the hell and offered to buy her a drink. I was right about her lineage. Her grandfather was Filipino / Chinese and she was 5'7" tall. Slowly I started warming up towards this girl and I put my arm around her and drew her closer. Soon we were making out and she reached down and unzipped my fly. I think she was pleased that I was hard. I told her I had just arrived in Manila tonight and wanted a little company. I asked her how much she wanted and she said 2000 p. And that was that. I bought another round for us and her girlfriend came by to see who Roschelle had reeled in. After we finished our drinks we headed back to the Diamond Hotel arm in arm.
Back in the room, I turned on the TV, we stripped, and we soaped each other up in the shower and played around. Her tits showed a little wear and tear, but at this point I kind of expected it and I did not care. All clean and dry, we then moved to the bed where she gave me a pretty decent BJ. Then I got on top. I knew what I was about to do, but something inside of me could not stop and I slowly entered her and started riding her bareback. It felt great, but at the same time I thought, "shit, I am lost if I fall off the wagon and start riding bareback the very first girl I hook up with in the PI. " But there is no use crying over spilled milk and I told myself I would try and get a grip the next time with other girls.
After our little session, Roschelle and I talked a bit while watching some movie. She had a baby who lived with mother and she was done with Philippine men. Now where have I heard that one before? LOL. Soon the long plane ride hit me and I felt tired. I turned out the lights. Roschelle wrapped herself around me and we fell asleep. Sometime in the early morning around 3 or 4, I woke up with a hard on. Roschelle was still wrapped around me and I gently started kissing her. She responded warmly and I slid right into her wet pussy sideways. Afterwards we cuddled and fell asleep again. The next thing I knew it was around 11 am and I was still in Roschelle' arms. I gently initiated sex a third time.
IMHO, Roschelle may not be a looker, but she is a damn nice girl like so many Filipinas I have met. I had a very good time with her. Nothing she did was sexually extraordinary, but it was all like shagging a girlfriend or somebody who wanted to be your girlfriend and that is what made it so nice. There was nothing that seemed phony or commercial about her. So I had a good time. I gave her a 500 p tip because she was so nice and I knew she needed the money. She gave me her cell number before I walked her down to the corner where we said goodbye. She said she was going to find the jeepney to take her home. I forgot where home was, but she said it was more than an hour or two away. I never called her or saw her again. She said she was going to be at MBC Saturday night and hoped I would come by. Although she was good company, there were so many fish in the sea to catch; I did not even consider going back to MBC. I had already made up my mind to go hunting at the Edsa Complex Saturday. In any case, my trip had started off well!
Day 3, Saturday March 1, 2014 Pasay:
I took it easy most of the day. After Roschelle and I parted ways I exchanged some dollars for pesos (4,430 p per $100), had lunch at the Robinsons Mall (TGI Fridays) and ran some errands. Then I relaxed by the Diamond Hotel swimming pool and took a nap later.
Around 8 pm I took a taxi to the EDSA Entertainment Complex. I think there are 6 bars on the first floor. It is like the Nana Plaza of Manila. I think the two must see bars here are Firehouse and Cotton Club. You will definitely find some good looking girls here. Prices vary. There is the barfine and then there is the girl's service fee which is paid separately to your girl. This is a similar pricing structure to Burgos Street bars and the total price here is somewhere in the middle meaning the Edsa Complex bars are more expensive than the least expensive Burgos Street bars like Rogues and Stardust and less expensive than the more expensive Burgos street bars like Bottoms. As for quality, well I think it is pretty good meaning a lot better than MBC and roughly on par with many Burgos Street bars. So it is a good place to go.
It had been 2 years since I last visited the Edsa Entertainment Complex. Back in 2012 I had barfined a little cutie by the name of Beth out of Firehouse so that is where I started my mini barhop this night even though I had little expectations of finding Beth again. Firehouse had not changed much, but with a quick and albeit superficial look around the bar; I decided this wasn't the place for me tonight and I headed over to the Cotton Club.
Standing outside of Cotton Club were two very attractive girls who said Hi and told me they were cousins. They escorted me into the bar and to an empty booth. The girls immediately wanted me to keep me company. I politely declined their offer and told them that maybe later I would ask them over for a drink. Fact was that even though they were hot, I usually like to take my time and check out all the girls available in a bar before making any kind of decisions about who I want to invite over for a drink. So I initially sat by myself ordered a SML. I started to watch the girls on stage and I saw several really hot girls so I was very impressed with the high quality on display here. I was debating with myself about who I wanted to ask over. The cousins were definitely in the running as well as a few hotties dancing on stage. Then in the corner near the stage, I spotted a very pretty young spinner applying the last touches of make up to her face. She looked very young and sexy. I watched her closely as she got on stage and started dancing. I smiled at her and she shyly smiled back and I knew I was going to ask Jen over for a drink. A mamasan came over and said Hello,. With an open arm gesture towards the stage she suggested I could have any girl I wanted. Just choose, it is up to you, sir. I pointed Jen out to her and said I liked her. Mama nodded and said she was a new girl that had just started working here. The mama then made a few quick hand signals and Jen came down to join us. We said Hello, to each other and Jen sat down next to me. She seemed a little shy, but friendly. I asked Jen what she would like to drink and she ordered some lady drink. Then mama left us alone to get acquainted.
Jen said she was 19 and she had only been working here for 3 weeks. I asked her if she liked working at Cotton Club. She seemed a little hesitant to answer. Her short tenure here and young age seemed to be the reason her shyness. I decided to try to loosen her up a little and I asked her if she liked Tequila. She gave me a naughty smile and said yes, so I ordered a round for us. The Tequila seemed to do the trick, but to make certain, I ordered another round and soon her initial shyness disappeared. I held her hand and told her I thought she was very pretty. She said there were many girls here that were prettier than she was. I disagreed. Over the next 30 minutes of so I continued to hold her close and I kissed her a couple of times. It was all very tame and innocent compared to some of the in-bar action I have had in Manila, AC, and Subic over the years, but enjoyable. We continued to make friendly conversation so at some point I asked her if she wanted me to barfine her. She then told me that she had never been barfined before; but that she thought I was a nice man and she would like to go with me. I asked her what the barfine was at Cotton Club and she said I should ask mama.
I called mama over and told her I liked Jen. Mama then asked if I wanted to barfine her and I said yes. Mama then explained to me the barfine was 1800 p, but that did not include the girl's fee. The girl's service fee was up to her. So I thanked mama and said I wanted to talk to Jen privately. I also ordered another round of Tequila. I then probably made a mistake by asking Jen what she wanted and she told me 4000 p. I gave her a funny exaggerated smile indicating I thought that was a lot of money. Jen then said she would stay with me as long as I wanted. Now I don't like to negotiate with bar girls because I think it kills the vibe. I usually either make an initial offer based on what I know the price should be or if the girl makes the offer I either accept it or reject it. In this particular instance, I knew Cotton Club girls ask between 3000 p and 5000 p for LT so Jen was right in the middle. OK, but there was one thing; I had an early morning flight to Jakarta the next day and I did not feel I could make the most of an overnight LT arrangement. I told Jen that for our first time together, I felt that a ST arrangement would be better for both of us so we could take things slow and get to know each other. I explained that if we liked each other our 2nd date would definitely be LT. I then offered her 2000 p for ST which she accepted. About this time the Tequila arrived and we sealed the deal with a toast. Then after we downed our shots, we deep French kissed for the first time. I called the mama over one last time and settled the bill including the barfine. Mama took me aside and asked me to be easy with Jen, that this was her first time with a customer. I assured her I was a gentleman and I was going to take good care of Jen. She replied, "I know you will. Thank you. " LOL, and then she hit me up for a drink which I bought for her. Jen then left to get changed. So forgetting the booze which was not cheap, but part of any night's entertainment; ST with Jen was going to cost me 3800 p (1800 p barfine + 2000 p service) plus any tip I might decide to give her later.
After a short while, Jen came back to me dressed in tight jeans and a cute flimsy little top. She looked adorable. I could tell that the Tequila had had a positive effect on her, but she was not drunk just loosened up a bit. As we left the club one of the cousins was still hanging by the door. She gave me that faux sad "why didn't you pick me look" for a second and then she flashed a big smile. The first taxi guy outside tried to hold me up by asking for a fixed rate back to the Diamond Hotel. I told him no way and chose another taxi. The hotel was less than 7 minutes away and Jen and I made out in the back seat. I walked arm in arm with sexy young Jen through the Diamond Hotel's ornate lobby and I felt great. The Tequila had had a positive effect on me too. The staff were all gracious and super courteous. We made out some more in the elevator and once we were in my room I turned on the TV and gave the remote to Jen. She picked a cartoon station to watch of course. I offered her a coke or some juice and then I joined her on the bed. We made out some more as we watched TV and I slowly removed her top and then her bra. She had very nice "A" cups with pointy brown nipples.
Initially Jen wanted to take a shower separately, but I told her it would be fun to shower together so she agreed. We fooled around a little in the shower, but I could see that she was kind of a newbie at this. I poured some bath gel on my hands and started massaging her breasts. Then I poured some gel on her hands and placed her hands on my dick. She then followed my lead and started massaging it. We kissed and fooled around until we were both clean and rinsed. Then we dried off and got back together again in bed. We made out for some time and I would occasionally kiss her small breasts and nipples. She reached down and gave me a HJ. It wasn't much more that a hand shake, but I remember that it turned me on. I did not wait or ask for a BJ. I just got on top of her and spread her legs. I gently massaged her pussy lips with my dick and then after a while I slowly entered her. Her pussy was wet and took my dick in pretty easily. Still, I took my time and waited until I knew she was ready for full penetration. Then I let her have it. The sex was basic missionary nothing more, but it was good and I enjoyed shagging her. She gave me some of her passion. Afterwards we cuddled and kissed in each other's arms as we watched TV. I changed the channel to HBO.
We took another shower together and then got back in bed. Jen seemed in no hurry to leave. I was happy with the one shot and had no intention of asking her to stay till morning. I was feeling good with her by my side in bed though and did not see any reason to ask her to leave. She gave me her cell number and I told her I would call her. I then explained to her that I was leaving the PI tomorrow morning and I would not be able to see her again until I came back 5 weeks later. She asked where I was going and then said, "Do not forget me. " She stayed in bed with me for another hour or so and then we both got dressed. I asked her if I could take her picture, but she was way too modest to allow me even a head shot. Damn! I let her see me put 2000 p plus a 300 p tip in her purse. She made no attempt to count the money. I escorted her downstairs, we kissed goodbye, and I saw her off in a taxi. She was heading back to the Cotton Club.
In my final analysis, Jen was a real fine girl. I made mental note to go back to Cotton Club when I returned to Manila in April. Not only did I want to see her again, but there were at least 4 other girls at Cotton Club, including the cousins that I wanted to get to know better (shag). I think Cotton Club is one of the better bars in Pasay and therefore metro Manila. Interestingly, I stayed in Makati when I returned to the PI. I initially planned to go back to the Cotton Club again. I really wanted to go back to the Cotton Club, but I just couldn't tear myself away from Makati. The simple truth was that I met a girl in Bottoms Bar on Burgos Street on one of the last remaining days of my trip that blew me away. But that is another journal entry. You guys will have to wait for that one. My next destination: Jakarta.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1615121]Day 2, Friday February 28, 2014 Ermita:
[/QUOTE]Good reports. Thanks for posting.
She looks like a Filipina I picked up in Dubai and she was also GFE.
Robb.
Thanks for the FR's Natty!
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1615121]Ermita:
SNIP
The next thing I knew it was around 11 am and I was still in Roschelle' arms. I gently initiated sex a third time.
IMHO, Roschelle may not be a looker, but she is a damn nice girl like so many Filipinas I have met. I had a very good time with her. Nothing she did was sexually extraordinary, but it was all like shagging a girlfriend or somebody who wanted to be your girlfriend and that is what made it so nice. There was nothing that seemed phony or commercial about her. So I had a good time.[/QUOTE]Well said; GFE and in general the girls' attitudes are prime reasons many of us, including me, love the Phils and keep returning or decide to settle / retire there.
I don't recommend trawling malls as a primary source of pleasure but if you're at a loose end & near Robinson's Malate I advise not going inside but stand outside the Mid Town entrance in the early evening. Their are groups of innocent looking young Pinay standing around. Hang around like your waiting.
No need to approach them.
They will smile & engage you.
I got asked if I was waiting for somebody & was firmly told they would go with me if my date didn't turn up. They were very fuckable & I would easily taken 1 or three of them had I not had a sure thing turning up.
AV.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1616270]I advise not going inside but stand outside the Mid Town entrance in the early evening. Their are groups of innocent looking young Pinay standing around [/QUOTE]Which one is the Mid Town entrance? Is it the one near Starbucks?
RG.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1616321]Which one is the Mid Town entrance? Is it the one near Starbucks?
RG.[/QUOTE]Yep, near Starbucks. Pedro Gil / Adriatico St.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1616270]I don't recommend trawling malls as a primary source of pleasure but if you're at a loose end & near Robinson's Malate I advise not going inside but stand outside the Mid Town entrance in the early evening.[/QUOTE]Actually, once the mall closes down for the evening, all the girls get flushed out of the main entrance. Yes Starbucks is right there and so is a water fountain where they congregate.
[QUOTE=BukoMax;1616359]Actually, once the mall closes down for the evening, all the girls get flushed out of the main entrance. Yes Starbucks is right there and so is a water fountain where they congregate.[/QUOTE]Last time I was there I noticed that after the mall closed a most of them would move around the corner (onto Adriatico) or over near LAC (if not into it), usually on Salas St.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1616321]Which one is the Mid Town entrance? Is it the one near Starbucks?
RG.[/QUOTE]Yes mate.
AV.
[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1616385]Last time I was there I noticed that after the mall closed a most of them would move around the corner (onto Adriatico) or over near LAC (if not into it), usually on Salas St.[/QUOTE]Salas is a street I walk through quickly during the day and stay off of at night.
I was in la Cafe last night and I could not close a deal with anyone that takes below 2500. They seem to hang around more towards Japanese men.
[QUOTE=Nolz7;1617248]I was in la Cafe last night and I could not close a deal with anyone that takes below 2500. They seem to hang around more towards Japanese men.[/QUOTE]To Nolz 7.
No kidding no one will take less than 2500 p even the average one find that hard to believe, I been to LA more than 20 time never paid more than 1500 p for ST, I know the hot one will not bargin never drop their price but many will take 1500 p or less.
Fast eddie 48.
[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1618556]To Nolz 7.
No kidding no one will take less than 2500 p even the average one find that hard to believe, I been to LA more than 20 time never paid more than 1500 p for ST, I know the hot one will not bargin never drop their price but many will take 1500 p or less.
Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Agreed FE, in my experience P1500ST is common in Manila for LAC or dating site semi pro's.
AV.
AV.
[QUOTE=Nolz7;1617248]I was in la Cafe last night and I could not close a deal with anyone that takes below 2500. They seem to hang around more towards Japanese men.[/QUOTE]Quality / quantity varies wildly from night to night. Prices are fairly stable but you can get lucky as well as laugh out loud at the ridiculous ones. That venue is not really my cup of tea but I drop by occasionally still for a recce.
AV.
[QUOTE=Nolz7;1617248]I was in la Cafe last night and I could not close a deal with anyone that takes below 2500. They seem to hang around more towards Japanese men.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1618556]To Nolz 7.
No kidding no one will take less than 2500 p even the average one find that hard to believe, I been to LA more than 20 time never paid more than 1500 p for ST, I know the hot one will not bargin never drop their price but many will take 1500 p or less.
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[QUOTE=Amavida;1618577]Quality / quantity varies wildly from night to night. Prices are fairly stable but you can get lucky as well as laugh out loud at the ridiculous ones. That venue is not really my cup of tea but I drop by occasionally still for a recce.[/QUOTE]As of recently, I pulled two girls (one each on different days) from LAC for 1000ST. My caveat is still a promise to have them out of the room within 2 hours of her initial shower. I also tell them they must stay the full two hours (I don't usually keep them that long, an hour is usually fine, as I don't worry about a second pop). Most are fine with 1000 if they know its 2 hours max. Previous to this strategy, most girls wouldn't budge under 1500 (been doing this 2 hour thing for over 2 years). I was also rejected by one girl who could not agree to anal (before we discussed money), and another who simply stated p2000 for her ST and would not budge (to be honest about it, she was hotttttt). My MO is to session (40-50 minutes) after her shower, have her shower again while I shrink / upload photos (5-20 minutes), and have her watch TV or sit and txt (naked -- always) while I rinse in the shower (2 minutes). Then I offer to exchange phone numbers, pay her and ask her to dress with me, and walk her out the front door at about 60-80 minutes after arrival. It goes the same way almost all the time unless the girl is chatty afterward. I often offer to buy the girl a jollibee or mcdo after, but most don't accept that. I tip p50 for jeep typically.
Amavida is right: there have been times when I ran into several gals in a row on one visit who wanted exorbitant prices. Just walk away until you hit on one more suitable to you (some guys are uncomfortable with that). Remember: you are the casino (not the girl), most things are stacked in your favor to win. Walk away when anything appears otherwise.
Nolz I will PM you.
Hey all,
First time to Philippines, yay!
I have an over night in manila on 19th and fly out early morning to another city. So I need accom close to the airport. Not to expensive (not the 5* range). I am not really certain of how expensive decent places are. Clean and hygienic, a normal western standard bathroom. Everything else is sort of immaterial. Now I am well aware of google and all the other sites that I can find this info. Obviously I am asking here for a reason.
I would like to get a massage! Definitely would go out for a beer! Maybe some fun if I fancy someone.
I have read thru 6 pages of 3 different threads here, and this is what I have understood:
A) 300 to 400 P is normal for a taxi ride of 30 mins.
B) 2000 P to 3000 P = ST, 3500 to 5000 P =LT.
C) LAC, EDSA and Burgos = bars / pubs.
D) there don't seem to be many real massage places.
E) Makati, Malate, Ermita, Angeles etc = neighborhoods / towns, cities in Manila?
So here is my question:
Where and what would you recommend me?
Any and all help is most appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
So here is my question:
Where and what would you recommend me?
Any and all help is most appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Stay at the Heritage. They say they are 5 stars (but, it's not). It is close to the airport though and should run you around $70 USD per night. The cab from the airport should be less than 200 php and if you want to grab a beer, you can attempt to cross the street and check out the fine ladies at the EDSA complex.
[QUOTE=Jstlookin;1619200]Hey all,
First time to Philippines, yay!
I have an over night in manila on 19th and fly out early morning to another city. So I need accom close to the airport. Not to expensive (not the 5* range). I am not really certain of how expensive decent places are. Clean and hygienic, a normal western standard bathroom. Everything else is sort of immaterial. Now I am well aware of google and all the other sites that I can find this info. Obviously I am asking here for a reason.
I would like to get a massage! Definitely would go out for a beer! Maybe some fun if I fancy someone.
I have read thru 6 pages of 3 different threads here, and this is what I have understood:
A) 300 to 400 P is normal for a taxi ride of 30 mins...[/QUOTE]I would recommend that you stay in Makati. For an inexpensive hotel right in the middle of the action I would do Royal Belagiio. Good price. For a good bar with a decent mamasan who can introduce you to nice young lady so that you can have good chance to have that decent nice evening. I would go to "Plan be" Bar which is right across the street from Royal Belagio hotel. For one night, P. Burgos street is the best and SAFEST place in Manila to be.
Lots of tourist and police around.
[QUOTE=Metkim;1619238] if you want to grab a beer, you can attempt to cross the street and check out the fine ladies at the EDSA complex.[/QUOTE]Thank you Metkim.
Now I certainly want a beer and the prospect of fine ladies sounds all the more tempting. But attempt to cross the street is scary! What am I in for?
All the FRs I have read so far seem to be happening in the darkness. Evening stroll onwards. And I am looking for beer with lunch, still fine ladies there?
What do you think, should I book in advance? At the heritage.
I kid you not gentlemen! Maybe I did not negotiate hard enough. I was there mainly to watch US Open Tennis as my hotel totally fuckup my TV. Anyways, I managed to grab a few online PSPs through Facebook for 2500. The face value was way better than those in LA. I'm now heading to Subic. I hope things will be brighter over there.
E; Angelies city is two hours from Manila, the others are in Manila, go by different names. Makati is nice area and I think EDSA complex is there. Ermitra and Malate are the strip clubs and stuff. Old town run down area. 1/2 hr. From airport. Lots of hotels in the 3 to 4 star range. Pussy pricing is about right. A little Hi but for a one nighter wanting a good time. Close enough. Makati is closer to the airport I think. Have only taken the tub thru that area. Much safer for a one night. Look on craiglist for massage to hotel. But would recommend what ever area. Go shopping and pick take out. There is plenty in both areas. Happy hunting.
[QUOTE=Jstlookin;1619200]Hey all,
First time to Philippines, yay!
I have an over night in manila on 19th and fly out early morning to another city. So I need accom close to the airport. Not to expensive (not the 5* range). I am not really certain of how expensive decent places are. Clean and hygienic, a normal western standard bathroom. Everything else is sort of immaterial. Now I am well aware of google and all the other sites that I can find this info. Obviously I am asking here for a reason.
I would like to get a massage! Definitely would go out for a beer! Maybe some fun if I fancy someone.
I have read thru 6 pages of 3 different threads here, and this is what I have understood:
A) 300 to 400 P is normal for a taxi ride of 30 mins.
B) 2000 P to 3000 P = ST, 3500 to 5000 P =LT.
C) LAC, EDSA and Burgos = bars / pubs.
D) there don't seem to be many real massage places.
E) Makati, Malate, Ermita, Angeles etc = neighborhoods / towns, cities in Manila?
So here is my question:
Where and what would you recommend me?
Any and all help is most appreciated.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Need to be close to the airport & sex, not 5*. I suggest Victoria Court Hotel Cuneta (Pasay).
[URL]http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Hotel_Review-g298452-d1443519-Reviews-Victoria_Court_Cuneta-Pasay_Metro_Manila_Luzon.html[/URL]
Close to airport, good 3* love hotel with big rooms, not expensive. Right across the road from EDSA bars.
[URL]http://www.victoriacourt.biz/mobile/[/URL]
Those taxi fares sound a little high. Just insist they use the meter or get out. In the end don't have a stroke about $5. 00.
Those P4 P prices are more like freelance or semi pro, expect to pay much more in girly bars like EDSA or Burgos.
Have fun & throw us a FR however brief when you're done.
AV.
[QUOTE=Jstlookin;1619267]Thank you Metkim.
Now I certainly want a beer and the prospect of fine ladies sounds all the more tempting. But attempt to cross the street is scary! What am I in for?
All the FRs I have read so far seem to be happening in the darkness. Evening stroll onwards. And I am looking for beer with lunch, still fine ladies there?
What do you think, should I book in advance? At the heritage.[/QUOTE]Heritage is _way_ overpriced. It needs maintenance badly for its price range. There is a big walkway pedestrian bridge across the roadway to Edsa.
Sorry girly bars are nocturnal activity. Want day time fun try LAC in Malate or Havana in Makati but expect to spend many many hours in traffic (most of your day). Get on dating sites for day girls or go hang at malls.
AV.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1619353]Heritage is _way_ overpriced. It needs maintenance badly for its price range. There is a big walkway pedestrian bridge across the roadway to Edsa.
AV.[/QUOTE]And at the bottom of the badly designed bridge, which leads to a lampost and some vendors, etc, are a few younger and sometimes older kids aware that foreigners cross the bridge and may not always hold onto their belongings. Put your beggar radar on, guard all your pockets, walk fast and purposefully and if any kids gets too close, shout loudly, or accidentally stamp on his feet. They will scamper.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1619372]And at the bottom of the badly designed bridge, which leads to a lampost and some vendors, etc, are a few younger and sometimes older kids aware that foreigners cross the bridge and may not always hold onto their belongings. Put your beggar radar on, guard all your pockets, walk fast and purposefully and if any kids gets too close, shout loudly, or accidentally stamp on his feet. They will scamper.[/QUOTE]Street kids & beggars are endemic to most parts of Manila. I've never had a problem especially at that location. Advice worth noting nonetheless.
Tourists use the elevated walkway to get snaps.
AV.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1619353]Sorry girly bars are nocturnal activity. Want day time fun try LAC in Malate or Havana in Makati but expect to spend many many hours in traffic (most of your day). Get on dating sites for day girls or go hang at malls.
[/QUOTE]Very rarely are there FLs hanging around Havana during the daytime hours. At best it's a onsey-twosey type of thing, and the ones I've seen in the sunlight aren't attractive. While the sun is up one has two viable choices, LAC or Burgos, and some bars in Burgos offer the happy-hour discount in the afternoon. Mall wandering is a waste of time, though if one is determined to do so it's best to spend your time at Harrison Plaza or Robinson's. Dating sites offer the best bang for the buck since you have hundreds if not thousands of options that you can contact prior to arrival and arrange to meet.
For a bloke who's here for a day (Jstlookin, the OP) these are the 4 options one has for metro Manila.
1) Closest to NAIA is Resorts World Casino that has 3 hotels. If you have arranged to meet girls from dating sites I'd stay here. There are FLs who hang out at the casino. Nearby you also have a couple of KTVs with massage parlour - look up Air Force 1. Potential downsides: A) Dating site girl no shows. B) KTVs are expensive. C) Far from all the well-known bar and FL areas.
2) Next nearest to NAIA is EDSA Entertainment Complex in Pasay. Nothing happening in the afternoon. By taxi you're not too far away from Harrison Plaza to hunt for afternoon FLs, but the commute on Roxas Blvd could be very slow. Stay at the Victoria Court rather than Heritage. Try to get a dating site girl for the afternoon. Good looking girls at EDSA. Potential downsides: A) Dating-site girl no shows. B) Nothing to your liking at Harrison. C) EDSA is expensive. Note: you could stay near Harrison Plaza and then choose between LA Cafe or EDSA for night action.
3) Next nearest is Burgos (take the skyway). Plenty of hotels in the immediate area. Girls available in the afternoon. A lot a girls are attractive. Not too far from Havana for night time hook up or just stay at Burgos. Some FLs at the Bellagio Hotel's restaurant, but watch out for ladyboys there. Potential downsides: A) Burgos bar fine is expensive. You may be able to find an afternoon happy-hour discount at some bars. B) Traffic from / to NAIA.
4) Ermita. Due to the congestion at the Manila port Roxas Blvd is doing its best to resemble a parking lot; your commute from NAIA to Ermita could be a very slow one. LAC is pretty much your only viable option for daytime FLs; night-time crowd is better. Read the FRs and you'll find opinions on their attractiveness. Plenty of hotels in the area. Robinson's Mall for the wandering. Potential downsides: A) Unattractive girls at LAC. B) Traffic from NAIA to Ermita. C) Nothing to your liking at Robinson's.
Pick one.
If you have time before your arrival test the dating-site waters; if you are getting a lot of attention, i.e. the girls are initiating contact and are eager to meet, then I'd pursue that course. Make sure you are clear in your communication what you expect and where you expect to meet - it ought to be at your hotel. Skype/ym/videochat with them beforehand to verify attractiveness and genuine gender.
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1619489] Verify attractiveness and genuine gender!!![/QUOTE]LMFAO.
Thanks a billion to all who took the time and energy to answer my queries. I guess victoria's as EDSA is going to be my choice. I have a flight at 6 am. So I would probably need to leave the hotel at 3 or 2, not worth sleeping the night. Rather sleep through the day and get my beer and verified gender / attractiveness fine ladies in the evening at EDSA. Someone here mentioned the 2 hr routine, sounds prudent.
Now if can't cross that dreaded bridge with those little pickpocketing bastards. How am I to get across the street? I know I will figure it out when I get there but I am elucidating some more fantastic replies and info.
Many talk about dating websites. Any particular one??
Regards
[QUOTE=Jstlookin;1619200]Hey all,
D) there don't seem to be many real massage places.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Oh there are bunch of them. Although not necessarily a fancy place. The service can be excellent. Based on my experience. A good technique really depends on the person that is doing it and not because they work for a certain place. For example, I went to TonTon massage. The service was rush the first time I went. There was not enough pressure the second time I went. But I went to Tonton in Cebu and the service was excellent. There is an Asian massage in Ermita and there is another one in front of Robinson mall. The cost in Asian Mansion is 300 full body massage. The one near Robinson mall doubles the price as it is frequented mostly by Japanese. (Go figure!) There are a lot of small places around Ermita. Some hair salon would offer some type of massage. Evershine Salon is rumoured to have an extra service on the second floor. enjoy The Philippines!
[QUOTE=Jstlookin;1619653]LMFAO.
Thanks a billion to all who took the time and energy to answer my queries. I guess victoria's as EDSA is going to be my choice. I have a flight at 6 am. So I would probably need to leave the hotel at 3 or 2, not worth sleeping the night. Rather sleep through the day and get my beer and verified gender / attractiveness fine ladies in the evening at EDSA. Someone here mentioned the 2 hr routine, sounds prudent.
Now if can't cross that dreaded bridge with those little pickpocketing bastards. How am I to get across the street? I know I will figure it out when I get there but I am elucidating some more fantastic replies and info.
Many talk about dating websites. Any particular one??
Regards[/QUOTE]Assuming international flight, so for a 6 am departure you'll want to be at the terminal 2 hours before. The traffic is 330 am is light.
For dating sites I think filipinocupid is the best. It is a paid site, which is like kryptonite to keyboard harassers in mom's basement, Filipino trike drivers, and Nigerian scammers. As you're here for a day the cost-benefit analysis of a one-month membership suggests it's a bad investment; I've met so many great girls from FC that I'd pay the 1-month fee for a day's use and arrange 3 or 4 meetings. If you don't want to pay read the Chatrooms and Penpal section here.
Enjoy your stay. And post an informative FR afterward.
[QUOTE=Jstlookin;1619653]
Now if can't cross that dreaded bridge with those little pickpocketing bastards. How am I to get across the street? I know I will figure it out when I get there but I am elucidating some more fantastic replies and info.
Many talk about dating websites. Any particular one??
Regards[/QUOTE]Don't sweat the pedestrian overpass. Just use common sense & stay alert the same as anywhere.
Dating sites?
Date in Asia: Free, huge membership, very strict naughty talk filters. Always fodder there. Work it.
Pina Love: Pay site, big membership, signal to noise ratio better, worth it.
Filipino Cupid: As for Pina Love.
There are many others but that will keep you very busy.
AV.
WIth a flight that early, I personally target a one- hour advance arrival time. I did have a taxi driver try to take the long route in order to avoid "trapic", idiot. Some of these guys are on scam autopilot. Roxas was completely empty but he wanted to take detour to avoid traffic. Manila is not a friendly place for the newcomer. They will eat you alive if you show any weakness.
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1619760]Assuming international flight, so for a 6 am departure you'll want to be at the terminal 2 hours before. The traffic is 330 am is light.
For dating sites I think filipinocupid is the best. It is a paid site, which is like kryptonite to keyboard harassers in mom's basement, Filipino trike drivers, and Nigerian scammers. As you're here for a day the cost-benefit analysis of a one-month membership suggests it's a bad investment; I've met so many great girls from FC that I'd pay the 1-month fee for a day's use and arrange 3 or 4 meetings. If you don't want to pay read the Chatrooms and Penpal section here.
Enjoy your stay. And post an informative FR afterward.[/QUOTE]
Thank you all for the info and reports. I arrived in Manila last night and had fun at LA Cafe. Didn't realize the upstairs charged 100 pesos for entry for the live band.
Tonight I'm going to check out EDSA. If anyone would like to meet up drop me a PM.
[QUOTE=Sock111;1620204]Thank you all for the info and reports. I arrived in Manila last night and had fun at LA Cafe. Didn't realize the upstairs charged 100 pesos for entry for the live band.
Tonight I'm going to check out EDSA. If anyone would like to meet up drop me a PM.[/QUOTE]Just add in some intel on the covers you were charged: sometimes it can be 200 piso as well. I guess they increase / decrease pricings after volum of people present, quality of the bands etc. A few years back when I was a frequent user of the LAC prices tended to vary from 0 to 250 piso for an excursion upstairs.
I found the waitresses upstairs to be better looking than the downstair ones (could be just a coincident ofcourse) and yes they are available for takeouts as well.
All of a sudden its windy and I can expect heavy rain.
Good observation. I've observed the same thing regarding the fee. Often the female customers are better looking also.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1620238]Just add in some intel on the covers you were charged: sometimes it can be 200 piso as well. I guess they increase / decrease pricings after volum of people present, quality of the bands etc. A few years back when I was a frequent user of the LAC prices tended to vary from 0 to 250 piso for an excursion upstairs.
I found the waitresses upstairs to be better looking than the downstair ones (could be just a coincident ofcourse) and yes they are available for takeouts as well.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sock111;1620262]All of a sudden its windy and I can expect heavy rain.[/QUOTE]Be glad you're not in Baguio. They're supposed to get 3 feet of it. That's not 3 feet of flooding either. Its 3 feet of rain.
So I went to check out EDSA tonight and have to say I'm not impressed. I heard it compared to Nana plaza but its much smaller. Now I went at 11:00 pm. Guess that was a big mistake. By the time I got there every bar only had between 4-6 girls on stage.
One observation was that every club except Cotton club pushed for those double lady drinks. Its deceptive advertising cause the little signs on the table say 395, but doesn't tell you its a double.
Lesson learned, its best to go around 9:00 pm for the best selection.
[QUOTE=Sock111;1620262]All of a sudden its windy and I can expect heavy rain.[/QUOTE]Not latest map. But it is coming.
From time to time there have been reports here about cops setting up bogus stings in order to take money from unsuspecting mongers. I presume that these events are relatively rare. Given the size of the city and the occasional bribe-taking incident by police, the odds of one of us being hit are probably fairly low. But this news story gives a disconcerting sense of how the graft operates. This incident, and probably many others, are not the work of a single rogue cop who takes advantage of an isolated motorist. This activity is well organized. That means there is a culture among the police that accepts much of it and that there is a network structure that provides cover to other cops. In this instance it seems likely that there was advance intelligence work providing the information that the men in question were carrying a wad of dough. These are not rogues; this is a system, and the editorial writers acknowledge as much. Unfortunately the account in this editorial belies the editorial's title.
[URL]http://opinion.inquirer.net/78408/rogue-cops-on-edsa[/URL]
[QUOTE=BoolaFiji;1610579]The guards don't really check. I have always breezed right past them and out onto the departures taxi ramp. They only check folks getting *into* the airport. Take the lifts at the left end of the arrivals floor (as you exits customs) and go to floor 2.[/QUOTE]That's exactly what I do. I take the lift up to the departures floor and go to the departures taxi ramp by taking the furthest exit from the lifts and make sure you get in a taxi and uses a meter. If the driver claims that the meter doesn't work, get out and get another taxi.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1620457]Be glad you're not in Baguio. They're supposed to get 3 feet of it. That's not 3 feet of flooding either. Its 3 feet of rain.[/QUOTE]If not the floods in the place I am in Baguio, the howling winds kept me terrified for a the night and then the next day.
Luckily it is sunny skies since yesterday in Baguio.
[QUOTE=Robbaf;1620495]Not latest map. But it is coming.[/QUOTE]Then another one is heading to Visayas. As of today.
[QUOTE=SkipKost;1620589]From time to time there have been reports here about cops setting up bogus stings in order to take money from unsuspecting mongers. I presume that these events are relatively rare. Given the size of the city and the occasional bribe-taking incident by police, the odds of one of us being hit are probably fairly low. But this news story gives a disconcerting sense of how the graft operates. This incident, and probably many others, are not the work of a single rogue cop who takes advantage of an isolated motorist. This activity is well organized. That means there is a culture among the police that accepts much of it and that there is a network structure that provides cover to other cops. In this instance it seems likely that there was advance intelligence work providing the information that the men in question were carrying a wad of dough. These are not rogues; this is a system, and the editorial writers acknowledge as much. Unfortunately the account in this editorial belies the editorial's title.
[URL]http://opinion.inquirer.net/78408/rogue-cops-on-edsa[/URL][/QUOTE]Anyway, the law in Philippines means nobody will get punished.
The recent joke I heard. The Coast Guard fellows caught on camera, grinning and laughing while shooting at a Taiwan fishing vessel, and ended up killing a sailor in the Taiwan boat, recently asked the court to dismiss the case.
Reason? 'we don't believe anybody died, and there is no proof the person who is supposed to have died really died, so we ask the case be dismissed and all charges be dropped'.
No kidding.
[URL]http://globalnation.inquirer.net/110075/coast-guard-staff-in-balintang-channel-shooting-seek-dismissal-of-homicide-raps[/URL]