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Road from AC to Manila are clear
Was going to take Victory Liner bus from Dau to Pasay yesterday morning but the hotel doorman told me the roads were closed and massive flooding in Manila. Today, Saturday, I decided to take a car service to Manila as I had heard there was still flooding around Pasay. I didn't want to risk missing my flight. Supposedly less Manila traffic on Saturday but being the side roads flooded everyone is on the main roads. Left AC at 4:30 pm and arrived at terminal 1 at 7:36 pm without any stops. 3 hours. At least no waiting at terminal 1. Breezed thru departure tax line, passport control and security in 3 minutes. Terminal 1 is like a ghost town!
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Very Bad Business at LA Cafe
Having lived here for awhile now, I thought I'd seen plenty of utterly shitty business practices until I stopped into LA Cafe yesterday for a beer. I was the only white guy in there at about 3:30 pm A couple of Japanese guys and a couple of other guys, who knows where from. I sat at the bar with my back toward the entrance. Typical scenario unfolds where girl comes and sits next to me. She has a bottled water. Next thing I know some filipino employee of LA A $$holes Cafe and seats himself about 8 feet away at a table. Two of his ugly friends seat themselves at the same table and I'm getting holes stared through me. Girl starts making small talk and I politely but succinctly respond.
Waitress comes with my beer and asks if I want to buy the girl a drink. I think when did AC make it to this place. One minute later she returns and asks if I'd like to buy the girl a drink. I told her that I said no a minute ago. She comes a 3rd fucking time in 3 minutes and asks again. Now I realize that somebody else from Shit Cafe has moved in behind me. I wasn't very nice to the waitress for bothering me about buying some working girl a drink 3 times in 3 minutes. I had paid for my beer when I got it. I got up to leave and told the filipino guy behind me what I thought about lady drink pressure. I was told the girl is not permitted to leave with a customer unless customer buys her a drink. WTF?? Last time I spend a penny at that shithole.
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[QUOTE=Amavida;1619787]Don't sweat the pedestrian overpass. Just use common sense & stay alert the same as anywhere.
Dating sites?
Date in Asia: Free, huge membership, very strict naughty talk filters. Always fodder there. Work it.
Pina Love: Pay site, big membership, signal to noise ratio better, worth it.
Filipino Cupid: As for Pina Love.
There are many others but that will keep you very busy.
AV.[/QUOTE]For what's its worth I am a big fan of Tagged for lining up dates in the Philippines before you get there, and to be honest I have had a fair amount of success using that site. One warning though, just don't send anyone any money, despite how sad their sob story is!
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[QUOTE=Slippery;1623587]Waitress comes with my beer and asks if I want to buy the girl a drink. I think when did AC make it to this place. One minute later she returns and asks if I'd like to buy the girl a drink. I told her that I said no a minute ago. She comes a 3rd fucking time in 3 minutes and asks again. Now I realize that somebody else from Shit Cafe has moved in behind me. I wasn't very nice to the waitress for bothering me about buying some working girl a drink 3 times in 3 minutes. I had paid for my beer when I got it. I got up to leave and told the filipino guy behind me what I thought about lady drink pressure. I was told the girl is not permitted to leave with a customer unless customer buys her a drink. WTF?? Last time I spend a penny at that shithole.[/QUOTE]I got hit by the waitresses in LAC in July and January this year, and August of 2013 for at attempted purchase of LD. They did not pressure by re-asking more than once, but they still asked. One girl explained to me that all girls walking in the door must purchase at least one drink during her stay (call it the lady's barfine), and they often try and get the guys to buy them a drink right away, or the waitresses make the attempt. Sounds like they are upping the pressure. OTOH recently I was in the bar at other times where nobody asked me to buy the girl a drink (possibly she had already purchased one earlier in the day).
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[QUOTE=Slippery;1623587]SNIP I was told the girl is not permitted to leave with a customer unless customer buys her a drink. WTF?? [/QUOTE]Although I don't recall it being discussed here recently, that policy has been in effect for at least a year. Not trying to defend it, just saying. However, many girls will meet you outside a block or so away to avoid it as they would rather hope you give then a bigger tip then give it to the bar. The last I heard the girls don't get any type of commission from the LD's.
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Using Uber in Manila
Has anyone used the Uber app to get rides in Manila, instead of regular taxis? If so, how was your experience?
RG.
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[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1623984]Has anyone used the Uber app to get rides in Manila, instead of regular taxis? If so, how was your experience?
RG.[/QUOTE]GE did an FR on this a few weeks back. He said it was fine but others I know who use say is variable service depends on the day and time it appears.
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[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1623775]Although I don't recall it being discussed here recently, that policy has been in effect for at least a year. Not trying to defend it, just saying. However, many girls will meet you outside a block or so away to avoid it as they would rather hope you give then a bigger tip then give it to the bar. The last I heard the girls don't get any type of commission from the LD's.[/QUOTE]I had no intention of taking a girl. Just stopped in for a beer. Sure, I know they might approach a gwapo soon to be grandfather like me. It was the waitress driving me out of there with management well within hearing distance from two sides. Not a good business plan there.
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Uber
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1623984]Has anyone used the Uber app to get rides in Manila, instead of regular taxis? If so, how was your experience?
RG.[/QUOTE]I could say RTFF but Goodenough reported on his use of the Uber App a month ago in this very forum. See: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1007-Manila&p=1610744&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1610744.
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I've never had anything like that happen, maybe it was just a few employees getting creative on a slow afternoon. You can't really expect the best of service in a 3rd world bordello.
Like you, I pay as I go. That way I can get up and move about. Sometimes I'm moving away from a persistent, but fugly gal, other times hunting for that diamond in the rough who might be sitting quietly in a corner nursing her SM light.
I rarely sit at the bar. I try to face the door / doors / entrances / restrooms on order to achieve optimum bird watching. Shithole? Can't disagree with that.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1623587]Having lived here for awhile now, I thought I'd seen plenty of utterly shitty business practices until I stopped into LA Cafe yesterday for a beer. I was the only white guy in there at about 3:30 pm A couple of Japanese guys and a couple of other guys, who knows where from. I sat at the bar with my back toward the entrance. Typical scenario unfolds where girl comes and sits next to me. She has a bottled water. Next thing I know some filipino employee of LA A $$holes Cafe and seats himself about 8 feet away at a table. Two of his ugly friends seat themselves at the same table and I'm getting holes stared through me. Girl starts making small talk and I politely but succinctly respond.
Waitress comes with my beer and asks if I want to buy the girl a drink. I think when did AC make it to this place. One minute later she returns and asks if I'd like to buy the girl a drink. I told her that I said no a minute ago. She comes a 3rd fucking time in 3 minutes and asks again. Now I realize that somebody else from Shit Cafe has moved in behind me. I wasn't very nice to the waitress for bothering me about buying some working girl a drink 3 times in 3 minutes. I had paid for my beer when I got it. I got up to leave and told the filipino guy behind me what I thought about lady drink pressure. I was told the girl is not permitted to leave with a customer unless customer buys her a drink. WTF?? Last time I spend a penny at that shithole.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Slippery;1623587]Having lived here for awhile now, I thought I'd seen plenty of utterly shitty business practices until I stopped into LA Cafe yesterday for a beer. I was the only white guy in there at about 3:30 pm A couple of Japanese guys and a couple of other guys, who knows where from. I sat at the bar with my back toward the entrance. Typical scenario unfolds where girl comes and sits next to me. She has a bottled water. Next thing I know some filipino employee of LA A $$holes Cafe and seats himself about 8 feet away at a table. Two of his ugly friends seat themselves at the same table and I'm getting holes stared through me. Girl starts making small talk and I politely but succinctly respond.
Waitress comes with my beer and asks if I want to buy the girl a drink. I think when did AC make it to this place. One minute later she returns and asks if I'd like to buy the girl a drink. I told her that I said no a minute ago. She comes a 3rd fucking time in 3 minutes and asks again. Now I realize that somebody else from Shit Cafe has moved in behind me. I wasn't very nice to the waitress for bothering me about buying some working girl a drink 3 times in 3 minutes. I had paid for my beer when I got it. I got up to leave and told the filipino guy behind me what I thought about lady drink pressure. I was told the girl is not permitted to leave with a customer unless customer buys her a drink. WTF?? Last time I spend a penny at that shithole.[/QUOTE]Having lived here a while, I am surprised to see you holding any expectations for LAC. Since its decline, the owners have been searching for models to monetize. The 4 times I have been there in the past 3 years I have gone away with a girl once. And that was nothing special compared to the sweet niblets that used to ply their trade.
Anyway, it seems that management tired of girls that just came in to sit and wait aimlessly for customers without purchasing. Same for some of the guys who have been known to come in, scout out a girl, and then leave without buying a drink themselves. Given the current state, I can't blame the management for making an attempt to make some money. What was the price of the drink anyway? P100? P200? Did you let that get between you and the girl? Enjoy, AR.
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[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1623775]Although I don't recall it being discussed here recently, that policy has been in effect for at least a year. Not trying to defend it, just saying. However, many girls will meet you outside a block or so away to avoid it as they would rather hope you give then a bigger tip then give it to the bar. The last I heard the girls don't get any type of commission from the LD's.[/QUOTE]Correct. During its heyday girls perched on stools, sometimes with a drink, guys went in there & bought a drink, chatted up providers & went out to their hotels to complete the transaction. It had a reputation that attracted revellers & party'ers. Everybody was happy. Then the raids & closurers. East Asians moved in & drove out average mongers. The place never really recovered. Meanwhile unregulated sex has gone main stream. Stand outside the casino or robinsons, get on dating sites. Low mileage non pro's (& semi pro's) are everywhere these days.
AV.
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LA Cafe buying drinks
Part of the problem is that the girl joined you to sit at the bar. Taking a seat at the bar, they want to see a drink purchase, more than sitting at a table. As to buying a drink if you leave with a girl, that's easy to evade. Leave separately, and ask the girl for a nearby location to meet. And they want a standard payment of P350 for a "lady's drink".
[QUOTE=Slippery;1623587]Having lived here for awhile now, I thought I'd seen plenty of utterly shitty business practices until I stopped into LA Cafe yesterday for a beer. I was the only white guy in there at about 3:30 pm A couple of Japanese guys and a couple of other guys, who knows where from. I sat at the bar with my back toward the entrance. Typical scenario unfolds where girl comes and sits next to me. She has a bottled water. Next thing I know some filipino employee of LA A $$holes Cafe and seats himself about 8 feet away at a table. Two of his ugly friends seat themselves at the same table and I'm getting holes stared through me. Girl starts making small talk and I politely but succinctly respond.
Waitress comes with my beer and asks if I want to buy the girl a drink. I think when did AC make it to this place. One minute later she returns and asks if I'd like to buy the girl a drink. I told her that I said no a minute ago. She comes a 3rd fucking time in 3 minutes and asks again. Now I realize that somebody else from Shit Cafe has moved in behind me. I wasn't very nice to the waitress for bothering me about buying some working girl a drink 3 times in 3 minutes. I had paid for my beer when I got it. I got up to leave and told the filipino guy behind me what I thought about lady drink pressure. I was told the girl is not permitted to leave with a customer unless customer buys her a drink. WTF?? Last time I spend a penny at that shithole.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Cbea20;1624245]Taking a seat at the bar, they want to see a drink purchase...[/QUOTE]There's always been a requirement that a girl, as a customer in her own right, purchase a drink. This is why you see them nursing a bottle of water. It has the LAC / MBC label on it to stop outside bottles coming in. Sure, some will sit there as long as possible without buying one, and on a busy night a waitress has more lucrative customers to attended to. I recall this guy-must-buy requirement was reported in an FR 8 to 12 months ago. I suspect the girl hadn't purchased her own drink yet and so the waitress was coming in for the assist. Or maybe it's just a gambit to drive sales. I rarely go to the place, but when I've been there no one has said a word about this. I always buy a bottle of rum or vodka and I invite whoever plops her butt at my table to join me. I'm not discriminating whom I drink with. Sure, the waitress has encouraged me to buy a p300 mango shake, but you can decide what to buy her... or not buy her. Up to you.
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I didn't say that I invited her to come over. Usually when I go in there, I sit next to a waitress station to preclude some ho from sitting on at least one side of me. What I did say was that she had a bottle of water. Perhaps I wasn't clear in saying she brought it over with her. I don't know where it was purchased from and I don't care because after being treated like that, there are plenty of other alternatives to stop for a beer at when I'm out walking. LAC can kiss my white ass.
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[QUOTE=Amavida;1624235]Meanwhile unregulated sex has gone main stream. Stand outside the casino or robinsons, get on dating sites. Low mileage non pro's (& semi pro's) are everywhere these days.
AV.[/QUOTE]I will be arriving in Manila tonight at 9 pm, which means I can be in Ermita around 11 pm. Aside from LAC, where's the best place around Ermita to pickup a "low mileage" non-pro or semi-pro at that time of night? It seems that Robinsons would be closed then. What casino are you talking about?
RG.
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Casino
Probably the Hyatt. Also the mall is one block away, and LAC is not far. I confirm the approach, just stand outside on pedro gil. But better is websites for dating.
Pm.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1624356]I will be arriving in Manila tonight at 9 pm, which means I can be in Ermita around 11 pm. Aside from LAC, where's the best place around Ermita to pickup a "low mileage" non-pro or semi-pro at that time of night? It seems that Robinsons would be closed then. What casino are you talking about?
RG.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1624356]I will be arriving in Manila tonight at 9 pm, which means I can be in Ermita around 11 pm. Aside from LAC, SNIP[/QUOTE]If there's nothing to your liking at LAC or the immediate area then maybe try heading to one of the nearby casa's.
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Anyone knows where it's possible to score high end girls in MNL regardless of the price.
I've been to the same places we've all been, La Café, Burgos, Malate, Havana café, etc.
But I did I ever score a model type in MNL? The answer is sadly no.
I mean the last time I was there, I was staying at Solaire Casino.
Anyone who has been there knows that model type girls greet you when you come in.
Those girls are pretty much model type. Those are the type of girls I want to book.
So when I took my taxi to go to nearby EDSA it was a bit brutal to go down from 8-9 girls at Solaire to 4-6 at best girls at EDSA.
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[QUOTE=EscortFan;1625802]Anyone knows where it's possible to score high end girls in MNL regardless of the price.
I've been to the same places we've all been, La Caf, Burgos, Malate, Havana caf, etc.
But I did I ever score a model type in MNL? The answer is sadly no.
I mean the last time I was there, I was staying at Solaire Casino.
Anyone who has been there knows that model type girls greet you when you come in.
Those girls are pretty much model type. Those are the type of girls I want to book.
So when I took my taxi to go to nearby EDSA it was a bit brutal to go down from 8-9 girls at Solaire to 4-6 at best girls at EDSA.[/QUOTE]Gramercy71 Makati and Prive The Fort have model and celebrity girls but these are normal night clubs where the rich and famous hangs out so depends on your game. Not bookable, hehe.
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Thanks Pip J.
[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1623775]Although I don't recall it being discussed here recently, that policy has been in effect for at least a year. Not trying to defend it, just saying. However, many girls will meet you outside a block or so away to avoid it as they would rather hope you give then a bigger tip then give it to the bar. The last I heard the girls don't get any type of commission from the LD's.[/QUOTE] So that's what that was, now I get it!!! Funny thing, I had one girl say this to me "...I'll meet you at the Arab Restaurant across the street in 2 minutes... ", after we made the deal and I basically was thinking "....WTF am I that fugly, she doesn't want her friends to see her leaving with me. " LOL!!! THANKS FOR CLEARING THAT UP PIP J.
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Couple? S
Should I carry my passport on me at all times?
Is it better to exchange dollars to pesos or just withdraw from ATMs?
Is November / December peak international tourist season?
In Manila should I pay before service or after?
In regards to girls, should I have them come to my room, or should I get a hotel generally for all my mongering needs? Which is safer?
Should I bring an separate cheap phone just for mongering?
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It is all in the reports
[QUOTE=MeteorMan;1627340]Should I carry my passport on me at all times?
Is it better to exchange dollars to pesos or just withdraw from ATMs?
Is November / December peak international tourist season?
In Manila should I pay before service or after?
In regards to girls, should I have them come to my room, or should I get a hotel generally for all my mongering needs? Which is safer?
Should I bring an separate cheap phone just for mongering?[/QUOTE]Answers are all there.
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[QUOTE=EscortFan;1625802]Anyone knows where it's possible to score high end girls in MNL regardless of the price.
[/QUOTE]Several months back I posted a link to a good escort site in the Escorts section of this forum - just so I don't get flamed again I have NO RELATIONSHIP whatsoever with that site. There are a few high-end p10,000+ escorts listed there. I'll leave it up to you to determine whether they are "model" quality or not. Read my post because some unusual jargon is used on that site.
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[QUOTE=MeteorMan;1627340]Should I carry my passport on me at all times?
Is it better to exchange dollars to pesos or just withdraw from ATMs?
Is November / December peak international tourist season?
In Manila should I pay before service or after?
In regards to girls, should I have them come to my room, or should I get a hotel generally for all my mongering needs? Which is safer?
Should I bring an separate cheap phone just for mongering?[/QUOTE]Here we go again. Failure to RTTF. Not a regular member and asking question. Its tempting to PM you some of those answers, but you don't have PM (at this time).
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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1627465]Here we go again. Failure to RTTF. Not a regular member and asking question. Its tempting to PM you some of those answers, but you don't have PM (at this time).[/QUOTE]To a point I agree you and DG, with a bit of research here then the answers can be found except perhaps for the passport thing; I only recall an issue similar to OP's question being mentioned in the AC thread a while back when the talk was about white guys who got caught up in bar raids and the po po asked them for [I]ID[/I]. So, not just for MM's sake, but for other newb's as well (and for future RTFF reference):
[QUOTE=MeteorMan;1627340]Should I carry my passport on me at all times?[/QUOTE]Neither is it required nor advised to carry your passport when you're out and about, but I would make a copy of it and carry that instead. In addition, you may want to write your ICE (In Case of Emergency) info on the back too.
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[QUOTE=MeteorMan;1627340]Should I carry my passport on me at all times?
Is it better to exchange dollars to pesos or just withdraw from ATMs?
Is November / December peak international tourist season?
In Manila should I pay before service or after?
In regards to girls, should I have them come to my room, or should I get a hotel generally for all my mongering needs? Which is safer?
Should I bring an separate cheap phone just for mongering?[/QUOTE]We were all newbies once. Never carry your passport with you, like the other poster said, have a copy on hand. You typically get better rates by withdrawing from an ATM. While not asked, I found Capital One's credit card to give me the best FX rates when charging in local CCV. I could be wrong, but CL posters have asked for payment in advance, while all others seem to be OK with after. Perhaps just my experience. It's up to you whether you bring them up. You just don't want to be caught with coworkers nearby, etc. I've always had an unlocked phone just for the Phils.
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[QUOTE=Kaywhy;1627583]We were all newbies once. Never carry your passport with you, like the other poster said, have a copy on hand. You typically get better rates by withdrawing from an ATM. While not asked, I found Capital One's credit card to give me the best FX rates when charging in local CCV. I could be wrong, but CL posters have asked for payment in advance, while all others seem to be OK with after. Perhaps just my experience. It's up to you whether you bring them up. You just don't want to be caught with coworkers nearby, etc. I've always had an unlocked phone just for the Phils.[/QUOTE]Thanks so much for the answers, I just have these final questions:
Is there a better site for short term monthly rentals than airbnb, I find them quite expensive.
In regards to getting caught with coworkers nearby, what do you mean. Do most Filipinas frown upon bringing pros to rooms or is it something else?
Is xanax and valium available without a prescription in most pharmacies?
How much are Gyms generally in Manila?
What does RTFF mean?
Final question: Would banging Pros be a negative when it comes to dating regular girls in the Phils. I mean is Manila small enough where everybody is connected in everybody business?
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[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1627524]To a point I agree you and DG, with a bit of research here then the answers can be found except perhaps for the passport thing; I only recall an issue similar to OP's question being mentioned in the AC thread a while back when the talk was about white guys who got caught up in bar raids and the po po asked them for [I]ID[/I]. So, not just for MM's sake, but for other newb's as well (and for future RTFF reference):
Neither is it required nor advised to carry your passport when you're out and about, but I would make a copy of it and carry that instead. In addition, you may want to write your ICE (In Case of Emergency) info on the back too.[/QUOTE]I agree that you should not carry around your passport on your person. However, it is wise to make a photocopy of your passport and keep it somewhere separate from your passport in the event your original passport is lost or stolen. Additionally, I obtained a USA Passport card, which I keep with me. Although it isn't valid for travel to or from the Philippines, it does contain necessary information to identify you in the event of some emergency.
RG.
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[quote=radicalguy;1627790]i agree that you should not carry around your passport on your person. however, it is wise to make a photocopy of your passport and keep it somewhere separate from your passport in the event your original passport is lost or stolen. additionally, i obtained a usa passport card, which i keep with me. although it isn't valid for travel to or from the philippines, it does contain necessary information to identify you in the event of some emergency.
rg.[/quote]likewise if you're going to be driving here. photocopy your dl & leave the original locked away safe. mmda cockroaches just love to confirep001e your dl forcing a costly bribe or time wasting trip to city hall to go retrieve it.
av.
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Membership is a good investment
[quote=meteorman;1627615]is there a better site for short term monthly rentals than airbnb, i find them quite expensive.
in regards to getting caught with coworkers nearby, what do you mean. do most filipinas frown upon bringing pros to rooms or is it something else?
is xanax and valium available without a prescription in most pharmacies?
how much are gyms generally in manila?
what does rtff mean?
final question: would banging pros be a negative when it comes to dating regular girls in the phils. i mean is manila small enough where everybody is connected in everybody business?
[b][u]editor's suggestion[/u]:[/b] [blue]there is a link labeled "[u]abbreviations[/u]" in the menu bar at the top of this page. this will take you to the forum's glossary where you will find a chart with most of the terms & abbreviations used in the forum. [i]thanks![/i][/blue][/quote]mm, most long time forum members would like to see you pay the $19.95 for a membership. you've already asked a lot of questions and members have been accommodating, given that you're a newbie. but if you can't see it in any other way, consider how the membership carries with it the ability to send and receive private messages from other members. many of our well-informed members prefer to convey useful information out of public view, and i think you'll find this pays off quickly.
by now you know that rtff means to read the ffing forum. answers to most of the questions you ask have been answered already somewhere in the forum.
to most folks manila refers to the greater metro manila area (officially named national capital region or ncr). it is a large, extended urban area of 16 cities and one municipality (lacking sufficient population to qualify to be a city). population estimates run from between 12 million to 20 million. generally speaking, it is not a small area in which most people know each other's business.
that having been said, some of the areas where pay for plays (p4 p) are most easily found do overlap with business areas where you may run into business associates. if you come entirely for recreation, then no problem. but those of us who come to manila for business and like some horizontal recreation on the side figure out strategies for separating our private and public lives. my strategy is to stay in three and four star hotels in areas that are just inconvenient or unattractive enough that my american and filipino professional associates avoid them.
some of the long-time expats make connections using online venues, agree to meet their entertainment in neutral areas out of sight from business associates, and then employ a hot-sheet hotel for a few hours. sogo, eurotel, and victoria court are names that have hotels rep001tered around the metro area, and they all maintain websites. they often rent for increments of 3, 6, 12, or 24 hours. their employees have no misconceptions about the reasons that older patrons with young filipinas are coming and going for short hotel stays. their rooms are small, usually lack windows, but have ac that works, foam bed mattresses, reliable hot and cold showers, and probably change the bedding between customers.
the philippines is a country with pronounced class distinctions based on money, educational attainment, and family heritage. most of us who conduct business here rub elbows with folks from the higher social strata, and those folks do not formally approve of recreational mingling with the lower classes, from which many of our bed partners originate--even though in private many from the middle and upper classes are also engaged in recreational sex outside their marriages. but the bottom line is that sexual values in the philippines are among the most conservative in the world; they are based on traditional catholic values that european catholics discarded decades ago. there are numerous examples of prominent filipino politicians and show business personalities who are conspicuous womanizers, but, if you anticipate mingling with filipino business associates, you should plan a "self-presentation" geared to conservative philippine values. when they get really comfortable with you your local business associates might start inviting you to their "under the radar" retreats.
i concur with many who have advised carrying a copy of the photo and id pages of your passport, and then keep the passport locked up at your hotel. i carry a "money belt" slung from my neck, under my right arm, and between my outer shirt and undershirt. this means having to wear shirts that are not tucked in, but i can keep a few larger bills in it, an atm and credit card, and the passport copy.
many medications can be purchased without prescription in philippine drug stores. i have found it helps to have the prescription written out, including dosage, on a separate piece of paper (and spelled correctly). often you will stand in line to get waited on at the prescription counter, and having the prescription on paper avoids having to announce it loudly. you may or may not have luck getting some of the pain medications, but if one drug store chain won't sell to you, try another. in my experience mercury drugs is most likely to ask for for a prescription and generic and star drugs less so. others may have different experiences.
you will need to ask some of the expats about gyms and rentals, but there has been considerable discussion about rentals, both in this thread and the hotels thread.
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[QUOTE=SkipKost;1627925]MM, most long time forum members would like to see you pay the $19.95 for a membership. You've already asked a lot of questions and members have been accommodating, given that you're a newbie. SNIP You will need to ask some of the expats about gyms and rentals, but there has been considerable discussion about rentals, both in this thread and the hotels thread.[/QUOTE]Excellent and informative report Skip, I put a link to it in ROD.
Only wanted to add that many hotels have gyms / fitness centers too, even some of the 1 and 2 star ones.
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US passport card and ATMs
Yes, you are right. US passport card is not valid, unless you are making land border crossings. Even then, I think they are only valid between US-Canada, US-Mexico. Only other exception is, I think you can use it to go back and forth to the Caribbean.
Leave the passport at the hotel. I was stopped by a cop once, and I showed him my California drivers licence. Told him my passport is at the hotel. HE asked which hotel, and when I responded Intercon. HE let me go. But years of traveling through Phillpines, never really needed it.
When I try to change currency, I am always standing in a long line. I started using ATMs, and that has worked out really well. I think the rates are better.
CT
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1627790]I agree that you should not carry around your passport on your person. However, it is wise to make a photocopy of your passport and keep it somewhere separate from your passport in the event your original passport is lost or stolen. Additionally, I obtained a USA Passport card, which I keep with me. Although it isn't valid for travel to or from the Philippines, it does contain necessary information to identify you in the event of some emergency.
RG.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1627465]Here we go again. Failure to RTTF. Not a regular member and asking question. Its tempting to PM you some of those answers, but you don't have PM (at this time).[/QUOTE]Good point.
Also FR history is questions lonely in San Domingo and Thailand. Some of us are more helpful Westie than others are as really every question is RTFF answerable. On the UAE forum they call MM 'manager class'.
And not paid $20 for a sub and still asking.
MM pay up as once you do and FR your experiences you will find this a wealth of information (give and take. RTFF that and you will me, Westie and others FR on that subject).
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[QUOTE=MeteorMan;1627615]Is there a better site for short term monthly rentals than airbnb, I find them quite expensive.[/QUOTE]Not really, Trip Advisor is another good site but all the properties advertised are in the upper price range. Local real Estate agents can be helpful. My advise is get a decent hotel for a few days & look around locally once you have arrived. Depends upon what you mean by short term? Less than two weeks not worth the effort.
[QUOTE=MeteorMan;1627615]Is xanax and valium available without a prescription in most pharmacies?[/QUOTE]Narcotics are right out & benzo's are very difficult (caveat, I'm not a user, just going on observation). Bring a presciption & go see a local doc for a script.
[QUOTE=MeteorMan;1627615]Final question: Would banging Pros be a negative when it comes to dating regular girls in the Phils. I mean is Manila small enough where everybody is connected in everybody business?[/QUOTE]Dude its a huge very crowded conurbation. Having said that keep in mind that Pinoys are HUGE gossips. If you have a conga line of pro's to / from your room & then want to bring a straight girl there, keep in mind she WILL find out LOL! Use common sense.
AV.
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Passport
Make a paper copy of it and leave the real one in the safe in your room and carry the paper one on you.
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Manila Non-Pros and Semi-Pros
I mongered the hell out of Latina America years ago, but since getting divorced I've enjoyed the non-pro scene in the USA. Now I'm heading to Manila for a week and looking to take things up a notch. I'd like to get an 18-22 year old non-pro or semi-pro and enjoy the hell out of her for a few days. Or, better yet, do the same thing with two 18-22 year old non-pros at the same time. Taking meals, watching movies and fucking as a threesome day-and-night for a few days.
I setup accounts on Date in Asia and OkCupid. Tons of responses on Date in Asia, less so in OkCupid. As has been discussed in the forum, most of the girls seem interested in relationships or marriage. They seem to go out of their way to describe themselves as honest, simple, etc. How do I change the dialogue into having a few great days together and bringing a friend?
It's not that I mind paying for the girls' time. I just don't want the risk of disease that comes with high mileage ladies.
I've had no problems attracting ladies in real life. I'm good company. I just need help getting past the romance and into the "inappropriate proposition" of a two-lady temporary sexual relationship.
Please help me out! Advice, leads, etc. , either here or by PM. I'd even be happy to take referrals. Thanks!
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Kudos to Skip Kost
You handled that real well. Informative, not confrontational. Thanks.
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Wrong thread
[QUOTE=Commonglass;1628471]I setup accounts on Date in Asia and OkCupid. Tons of responses on Date in Asia, less so in OkCupid. As has been discussed in the forum, most of the girls seem interested in relationships or marriage. They seem to go out of their way to describe themselves as honest, simple, etc. How do I change the dialogue into having a few great days together and bringing a friend?
I've had no problems attracting ladies in real life. I'm good company. I just need help getting past the romance and into the "inappropriate proposition" of a two-lady temporary sexual relationship.[/QUOTE]You are in the wrong thread. Most of the answers you seek have been beaten to death in the online dating thread. One prolific expat has suggested using Craigslist, which contains some surprisingly explicit ads. BTW, given that many pros also know about online dating, there's no guarantee that women there are not "high mileage. " And if you were a "high mileage" woman, don't you think you would disguise the fact?
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[QUOTE=Commonglass;1628471]I mongered the hell out of Latina America years ago, but since getting divorced I've enjoyed the non-pro scene in the USA. Now I'm heading to Manila for a week and looking to take things up a notch. I'd like to get an 18-22 year old non-pro or semi-pro and enjoy the hell out of her for a few days. Or, better yet, do the same thing with two 18-22 year old non-pros at the same time. Taking meals, watching movies and fucking as a threesome day-and-night for a few days.
I setup accounts on Date in Asia and OkCupid. Tons of responses on Date in Asia, less so in OkCupid. As has been discussed in the forum, most of the girls seem interested in relationships or marriage. They seem to go out of their way to describe themselves as honest, simple, etc. How do I change the dialogue into having a few great days together and bringing a friend?
It's not that I mind paying for the girls' time. I just don't want the risk of disease that comes with high mileage ladies.
I've had no problems attracting ladies in real life. I'm good company. I just need help getting past the romance and into the "inappropriate proposition" of a two-lady temporary sexual relationship.
Please help me out! Advice, leads, etc. , either here or by PM. I'd even be happy to take referrals. Thanks![/QUOTE]It is very easy. State your purpose and hope they bite. I guarantee you none of them are " virgins ". Of course many of them initially come across as looking for permanent relationship, I am not that kind of girl, My parents do not let me stay with a man, can we meet just for lunch, can I bring my friends or family with me etc.
Like you I am exclusively looking for 18-25 range preferably with no kids although girls with kids tend to be easier to bed.
Most times I like them to come to the hotel by themselves. Sometimes if the girl is really pretty I meet them in the mall. Few times girls have come with their friend or cousin. If the girls like you they will come with you. No need to discuss money unless they ask. Some girls have really liked and later brought their friends or cousin for a threesome, if not one hides in the bathroom while I fuck the other one. At night I sleep in the middle and fuck each one while the other one pretends to to be asleep.
Success rate in getting " Normal " girls to bed depends. Some like you and some do not. Those who like you become sex slaves ready to do anything to make you happy.
Of course there are " Pros" mixed in. These you can make out the moment they are in your room.
Do not be afraid of saying what you want. Generally I tell them I come to Phi Often (Although I tend to use new girls). I tell them I am looking for the girl to stay with me. I do not like wham, bam Ty ma'm type of deal with these girls if they are nice. Sex gets better once they are comfortable with you.
The ones who do not get better or tend to act crazy I tell them all sorts of excuses to get rid of them.
Irrespective of which girl I always give them money. Even if they refuse I put money in their purse saying it is for taxi money, to buy some clothes she wants etc. If we go to the mall I buy her some stuff.
Good hunting!
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[QUOTE=Sammon;1628682]It is very easy. State your purpose and hope they bite. I guarantee you none of them are " virgins ". Of course many of them initially come across as looking for permanent relationship, I am not that kind of girl, My parents do not let me stay with a man, can we meet just for lunch, can I bring my friends or family with me etc. SNIP
Do not be afraid of saying what you want.
The ones who do not get better or tend to act crazy I tell them all sorts of excuses to get rid of them.
Irrespective of which girl I always give them money. Even if they refuse I put money in their purse saying it is for taxi money, to buy some clothes she wants etc. If we go to the mall I buy her some stuff.[/QUOTE]Good advice from Sammon, but let me add: state what you want, but don't be vulgar about it. Above all, be honest about your intentions, no need to lure a girl into the sack by promising to marry her.
If a girl says no then thank her for her time and simply move onto the next one; if you meet her in person and she turns you down then be a gentleman and discreetly slip her some pesos to cover her transport home. A little good will goes a long way, I've had some like that who've changed their minds or have intro'd me to a GF, cousin, etc.
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[QUOTE=MeteorMan;1627615]
Is there a better site for short term monthly rentals than airbnb, I find them quite expensive.[/QUOTE]Craigslist. Don't commit to any place by sending a deposit or providing credit card details until you see it.
[QUOTE=MeteorMan;1627615]How much are Gyms generally in Manila? [/QUOTE]Google it.
[QUOTE=MeteorMan;1627615]What does RTFF mean?[/QUOTE]Bloody hell.
[QUOTE=MeteorMan;1627615]Final question: Would banging Pros be a negative when it comes to dating regular girls in the Phils. I mean is Manila small enough where everybody is connected in everybody business?[/QUOTE]Yes, it's merely 13,000,000 Nosy Parkers.
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Great balanced report Sir Sammon just want to add some pitfalls by having repeat girls. I agree with you that on the greater part things gets better in the sack after numerous meetings but and there is a big BUT. They start eventually to have feelings and that can be nasty shit. I guess that's were your "gets crazy" comments start to play am I right?
These shit can be hard to handle and I have fought off quite a few. Then you must be able to think fast and lie your ass off bcs these girls can be unpredictable. This delicate situations I guess there is no correct or wrong answers but even if I still have some repeat girls in listings (just recently added a new one), I will walk cautiously with the rest of them and make it even more clear that this is only for fun and no relationship are to be had whatsoever. I may have been not direct and upfront in earlier cases. And for that I am sorry. As in it is not my intention to break a young girls heart. I will underline here that I mostly don't deal with the most hardned kind of girls bcs with them issues like this never will happen. Just as a reminder we must treat our small dolls with care and proffesioniality.
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Thanks Sammon and Skogis! That's great advice. It sounds like operating in Manila is even easier than operating in Latin America--and way easier than in the USA.
I've been reading the online dating forum, which has some great material, but I'm still sketchy on the specifics of what to do.
How does a typical interaction go? Do I invite the girl back to my hotel for drinks after chatting for only a few minutes online? Do I change my DIA profile to say that I'm a frequent business traveler and only looking for company? How do I say "what I want" without being vulgar? Is it appropriate to invite someone I've just met at the mall to come back to the hotel for drinks? What is the appropriate amount to give a girl for "cab" money afterwards?
I know that these a pretty basic questions, and, yes, I've RTFF. The devil is in the details though. If you can save me some failure or wasted hours with some good insights, I'd appreciate it. (I've done the same for others in Latin America.) I'm only going to be in town for five days for this trip and want to make the most of it.
Attached are some pictures of women that I sessioned in Latin America. This is generally the caliber of what I'm looking for.
[QUOTE=Sammon;1628682]It is very easy. State your purpose and hope they bite. I guarantee you none of them are " virgins ". Of course many of them initially come across as looking for permanent relationship, I am not that kind of girl, My parents do not let me stay with a man, can we meet just for lunch, can I bring my friends or family with me etc.
Like you I am exclusively looking for 18-25 range preferably with no kids although girls with kids tend to be easier to bed.
Most times I like them to come to the hotel by themselves. Sometimes if the girl is really pretty I meet them in the mall. Few times girls have come with their friend or cousin. If the girls like you they will come with you. No need to discuss money unless they ask. Some girls have really liked and later brought their friends or cousin for a threesome, if not one hides in the bathroom while I fuck the other one. At night I sleep in the middle and fuck each one while the other one pretends to to be asleep.
Success rate in getting " Normal " girls to bed depends. Some like you and some do not. Those who like you become sex slaves ready to do anything to make you happy.
Of course there are " Pros" mixed in. These you can make out the moment they are in your room.
Do not be afraid of saying what you want. Generally I tell them I come to Phi Often (Although I tend to use new girls). I tell them I am looking for the girl to stay with me. I do not like wham, bam Ty ma'm type of deal with these girls if they are nice. Sex gets better once they are comfortable with you.
The ones who do not get better or tend to act crazy I tell them all sorts of excuses to get rid of them.
Irrespective of which girl I always give them money. Even if they refuse I put money in their purse saying it is for taxi money, to buy some clothes she wants etc. If we go to the mall I buy her some stuff.
Good hunting![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Commonglass;1629125] Do I invite the girl back to my hotel for drinks after chatting for only a few minutes online? Is it appropriate to invite someone I've just met at the mall to come back to the hotel for drinks? What is the appropriate amount to give a girl for "cab" money afterwards?[/QUOTE]Common, it's easy, you can meet her at mall or at hotel. If she meets you at hotel it is understood she will bang you. Yes, cab money is appropriate 500 P - 2 k depending on how long she stays and how good she was to you. If you find any Filipinas like Sandy let me know! Good luck.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1629105]Great balanced report Sir Sammon just want to add some pitfalls by having repeat girls. I agree with you that on the greater part things gets better in the sack after numerous meetings but and there is a big BUT. They start eventually to have feelings and that can be nasty shit. I guess that's were your "gets crazy" comments start to play am I right?
These shit can be hard to handle and I have fought off quite a few. Then you must be able to think fast and lie your ass off bcs these girls can be unpredictable. This delicate situations I guess there is no correct or wrong answers but even if I still have some repeat girls in listings (just recently added a new one), I will walk cautiously with the rest of them and make it even more clear that this is only for fun and no relationship are to be had whatsoever. I may have been not direct and upfront in earlier cases. And for that I am sorry. As in it is not my intention to break a young girls heart. I will underline here that I mostly don't deal with the most hardned kind of girls bcs with them issues like this never will happen. Just as a reminder we must treat our small dolls with care and proffesioniality.[/QUOTE]I really enjoy having regular girls because the rapport and chemistry is outstanding. Yet there are a few pitfalls when a few of them become very regular regular girls who visit several nights a week. Firstly, they leave personal items. Clothing, flip flops, shampoo and makeup, a toothbrush, hair drier, etc. Keeping track of what belongs to whom and where they left it is a bit of a hassle. Someone here recommended bagging each girl's stuff when she leaves and then unpacking it before she arrives, and that was good advice that I use; I'll add that I use my mobile's camera to photo where she left the items and then replace them just so. Photo each item. Study it. Why? I once put a pink toothbrush on the basin and a few hours later the girl was demanding to know what happened to her toothbrush. She only uses a pink Colgate toothbrushes and the pink one I put on the sink was a different brand.
Previously I've written about sanitising my place to remove all residue of a girl's visit. I learnt to not overdo it when regulars are in my life. Yes, check the bed and floor for stray hairs. Clean the bathroom, but don't throw away her hairs. Wash all the dishes and put them back in the cabinets; keep in mind the inventory of food and drinks you have and keep things stocked, especially items she likes. Don't throw away the contents of the bathroom's rubbish bin. Pull the partially filled bag from the bin and hide it, replace with an empty bag for the next girl's visit, and before the regular girl returns swap bags, putting her rubbish bag back in the bin. The regular girl will see that the items she threw away earlier are still there. Spread her hairs back on the bathroom floor. Check photos to ensure everything is back where she left it.
Calling it quits. Eventually a girl who doesn't have a husband or partner will tell you she loves you. Yes, it started as a NSA fubu set up, but she's changed. My standard reply is that it takes a long time for me to determine whether or not I love someone and now I don't love her. When the girl asks you to lie to her and tell her you love her then it's gone too far. Pack her stuff before she arrives, break the news, let her cry, hand her her stuff, don't do the goodbye fuck, and don't see her again. Yes, the girl will ask to remain friends and maintain contact. It's best to refuse; it's unkind to the girl to resume seeing her.
Some girls enter, exit, and re-enter my life often. They visit me when they don't have a boyfriend, then they find a guy for a while and stop seeing me, something goes wrong with the new guy or his aeroplane has finished refueling and it's time to go, and the girl is texting me once again to visit. I never hold this "betrayal" against them. I like how these girls compartmentalise, and she's assigned me the proper place in her life.
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Huts you are the man.
We have been through this many times of evidence removals and shit like this. But you stepped up and brought this to a hole new level. A level, even if I do some evidence removals myself while shifting pray, I can not do or don't need as I dont live here as I presume you are?
I have had a few repeats I want to see later in my stays and on occation they have left some items (on purpose or whatever I don't know but easy to cope with). The bathbin removal I have done several times before new fuckobjects arrives. One girl was smart enough though to look into a pretty hidden lockout behind my apts washer and dryer and there she found garbage, winebottles, waste from bathroom etc etc(my hiding spot ofcourse). That made my creativity rise. My answer, pretending I was as surprised as her, was I would complaint to the housekeeping as this must have been leftovers from prior residents, hehe. If ahe bought it or not i dont know but we sessioned shortly after.
So I think as a long timer here or as me, a frequent visitor, more or less same rules apply but I don't have to be so scientific about it. But in a larger perspective this is something more people should be aware of.
My removal of evidence as described earlier also incl housekeeping to do the beds, allways have a good stock of fresh towels, the hairs on the bathroomfloors (I fucked up many times but same excuse as with the earlier described one applies), between sessions. One of my worst one was blood stains in the bed sheets. The last girl I fucked obviously was at her beginning of menstruation or she recently finished but for the latter it is not unheard of that fucking right after can trig new blood floods. I did have so short time between sessions and the bedroom was in dimmed lightning so I did not check so when next girl arrived and entered bedroom perimeter ofcourse this was the first she noticed. That was a tough one. I managed trough some fictional nosebleed story to calm her down.
But anyway, thanks Huts, you brought this to a hole new level and while I laughed and cryed while reading I also took it very seriously. Others with repeatgirls should print out Huts and read it every now and then. Will prevent you from a lot of hazzle.
And i realy enjoy repeat girls but i see as a common rule now that after 5/6 meetings more and more of the repeat ones becomes more and more sensitive. More and more question about my fake life they want to know, they want to view my pics in ipad, iphones, computers whatever and ask more and more about other girls(the latter developes from 2/3 time). So even if i dont want to write it in stone i will for the future lower my repeats and not have them over more than earlier described. If a repeatgirl stays away from beeing to personal then exceptions can be made.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1629184] One of my worst one was blood stains in the bed sheets. The last girl I fucked obviously was at her beginning of menstruation or she recently finished but for the latter it is not unheard of that fucking right after can trig new blood floods. I did have so short time between sessions and the bedroom was in dimmed lightning so I did not check so when next girl arrived and entered bedroom perimeter ofcourse this was the first she noticed. That was a tough one. I managed trough some fictional nosebleed story to calm her down.[/QUOTE]Stained sheets and towels can be a hassle if you're unprepared. Long ago I found an outstanding pre-wash stain stick called Turbo Clean at the hardware store. After each and every visit I examine my bed (make this part of your post-coitus routine when she's showering), rub some Turbo Clean on the spots, and then scrub clean with a cold, damp towel. It really does the job; it even removed set-in blood from a shirt that had been laundered several times previously. This being the Philippines, what was once available often is never restocked. When you find something that works, such as Turbo Clean, buy several. Another great cleaner is the spray Oxy Clean, but I haven't seen it sold in Manila. (And no, I'm not a shill for Turbo Clean.)
It's through such mishaps of our own and others making that one learns - I think I learned from you to always check windows and mirrors for hand prints and boob impressions. Where once we stammered out ridiculously far-fetched explanations now utterly believable ones slide off our tongues.
Photos are my Achilles' heal - try explaining to a girl who has 16,347 photos why I have zero. Other than taking pictures of rubbish, hair on the floor, and hanged clothing I never photograph anything. I can't be bothered. Yet girls want to see pictures of my life. I'm seriously considering paying a freelancer to photoshop a life for me.
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Thank you to the previous few posters who gave some great information but also gave me a good laugh (much needed today. Some very useful information for me to keep in mind for the future.
I must say Hutsori, you're attention to details is impressive. I have to wonder what you do for a living LOL I reminds me of something from CSI. I guess that is what Grissom was doing on his mongering vacations in the Phils.
AF
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1629371]Stained sheets and towels can be a hassle if you're unprepared. Long ago I found an outstanding pre-wash stain stick called Turbo Clean at the hardware store. After each and every visit I examine my bed (make this part of your post-coitus routine when she's showering), rub some Turbo Clean on the spots, and then scrub clean with a cold, damp towel. It really does the job; it even removed set-in blood from a shirt that had been laundered several times previously. This being the Philippines, what was once available often is never restocked. When you find something that works, such as Turbo Clean, buy several. Another great cleaner is the spray Oxy Clean, but I haven't seen it sold in Manila. (And no, I'm not a shill for Turbo Clean.)
It's through such mishaps of our own and others making that one learns - I think I learned from you to always check windows and mirrors for hand prints and boob impressions. Where once we stammered out ridiculously far-fetched explanations now utterly believable ones slide off our tongues.
Photos are my Achilles' heal - try explaining to a girl who has 16,347 photos why I have zero. Other than taking pictures of rubbish, hair on the floor, and hanged clothing I never photograph anything. I can't be bothered. Yet girls want to see pictures of my life. I'm seriously considering paying a freelancer to photoshop a life for me.[/QUOTE]
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[quote=hutsori;1629371]stained sheets and towels can be a hassle if you're unprepared. long ago i found an outstanding pre-wash stain stick called turbo clean at the hardware store. after each and every visit i examine my bed (make this part of your post-coitus routine when she's showering), rub some turbo clean on the spots, and then scrub clean with a cold, damp towel. it really does the job; it even removed set-in blood from a shirt that had been laundered several times previously. this being the philippines, what was once available often is never restocked. when you find something that works, such as turbo clean, buy several. another great cleaner is the spray oxy clean, but i haven't seen it sold in manila. (and no, i'm not a shill for turbo clean.)
it's through such mishaps of our own and others making that one learns - i think i learned from you to always check windows and mirrors for hand prints and boob impressions. where once we stammered out ridiculously far-fetched explanations now utterly believable ones slide off our tongues.
photos are my achilles' heal - try explaining to a girl who has 16,347 photos why i have zero. other than taking pictures of rubbish, hair on the floor, and hanged clothing i never photograph anything. i can't be bothered. yet girls want to see pictures of my life. i'm seriously considering paying a freelancer to photoshop a life for me.[/quote]i have found that hydrogen peroxide takes out blood stains instantly. works great and is inexpensive. you can buy a small bottle and if anyone asks. you keep it to clean any scrapes and cuts you get. as for the long black hair. i really screwed up one time. had a gf over and did a great job of cleaning the place. when wife arrived on the plane and came she noted immediately a "long black hair" on the floor. this had to be the only one left in the place. she found it immediately.
yep, funny about filipinas. they either will have their period and not say a thing or get it immediately after fucking them. i have had this happen at least a few times over the years.
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Arriving in Manila
I will be arriving at about 10 am. What can I expect in terms of traffic? Staying near Havana. Should I buy my Sim card at airport or in town? By 15:00, where is good place to start enjoy my trip. I was thinking Robinson Mall- near my hotel. Best Western.
THANKS HAPPY HUNTING. FRED.
Composing off line, as I only have a small amount of data left on this Sim card.
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[QUOTE=FredGold;1629773]I will be arriving at about 10 am. What can I expect in terms of traffic? Staying near Havana. Should I buy my Sim card at airport or in town? By 15:00, where is good place to start enjoy my trip. I was thinking Robinson Mall- near my hotel. Best Western.[/QUOTE]
Fred, your post contains three questions and one gigantic misunderstanding: it is impossible for a hotel to be near both Havana and Robinson's Place, since the two are 30-45 minutes apart by taxi. The 15 minute spread depends on traffic. BTW, at 10 am traffic is heavy throughout Metro Manila. You need to consult a map. Lots of maps available to show you where the three Best Western's are located.
Even from the two in Makati you will work up a sweat walking to Havana, or you can take a 10-15 minute cab ride. BW La Corona in Ermita is five minutes walking from LA Cafe, Amazonia, or G-Point, ten minutes to Robinson's Place, and 30-45 minutes by taxi to Havana. Unless you need to call somebody enroute from airport to the hotel, wait and buy the sim near the hotel. Regardless whether you arrive at Terminal 1 or 3, your first priority should be getting a taxi. When you get to the hotel there will be scores of places to buy a sim card and no waiting lines.
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Watch: BGC guards beat up and arrest two Englishmen when mongering goes wrong
[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54F3o-rJ-aQ[/URL]
The video shows an un-armed Caucasian man wearing a light-colored polo shirt, khaki shorts, and blue sneakers being manhandled by at least seven uniformed officers while another one lay still, just a few meters away. Initially he was being restrained by two Bonifacio Global City guards, and two more quickly join the fray.
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My upper head go unscrewed
Thanks for slap in head, I did proof post and somehow really messed up. TY.
I will surely wait until I get to hotel to buy sim. Ty. Fred.
[QUOTE=SkipKost;1629801]Fred, your post contains three questions and one gigantic misunderstanding: it is impossible for a hotel to be near both Havana and Robinson's Place, since the two are 30-45 minutes apart by taxi. The 15 minute spread depends on traffic. BTW, at 10 am traffic is heavy throughout Metro Manila. You need to consult a map. Lots of maps available to show you where the three Best Western's are located.
Even from the two in Makati you will work up a sweat walking to Havana, or you can take a 10-15 minute cab ride. BW La Corona in Ermita is five minutes walking from LA Cafe, Amazonia, or G-Point, ten minutes to Robinson's Place, and 30-45 minutes by taxi to Havana. Unless you need to call somebody enroute from airport to the hotel, wait and buy the sim near the hotel. Regardless whether you arrive at Terminal 1 or 3, your first priority should be getting a taxi. When you get to the hotel there will be scores of places to buy a sim card and no waiting lines.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Member#4221;1630066][URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54F3o-rJ-aQ[/URL]
The video shows an un-armed Caucasian man wearing a light-colored polo shirt, khaki shorts, and blue sneakers being manhandled by at least seven uniformed officers while another one lay still, just a few meters away. Initially he was being restrained by two Bonifacio Global City guards, and two more quickly join the fray.[/QUOTE]How do you know they were mongers? The vid gives no clue as to why they were being taken into custody and it looks to me like mr blue sneakers was resisting arrest. If I had to guess I'd venture to say that HE was intoxicated.
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Club illusions makati
Hello fellow pooners does anyone know about the club illusions in makati? Can the girls there be barfined? I tried searching the forum and googled it but not any info that I could find. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks, LuvAsianTang.
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[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang;1630357]Hello fellow pooners does anyone know about the club illusions in makati? Can the girls there be barfined? I tried searching the forum and googled it but not any info that I could find. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks, LuvAsianTang.[/QUOTE]For normal clubs in Manila as in disco and nightclubs (aka zzyzx, ekslusive, republiq, time, paladium, prive, gramercy71 etc etc) there are no barfines only covercharges (sometimes). This is totaly normal clubs and though you will find some FL girls in clubs like this from time to time or girls looking for sugar daddies they also cater to great deal of normal girls. Paladium is probably the most FL directed club of the mentioned one and Time on Makati ave (where many many BG meet up after workinghrs or returning from their ewr's). But barfines no. I hear many negotiates with girls before taking them home. I never but I am sure you can do that at these places as well. Just make sure to step cautiosly as many girls here, probably from the greater part of them, are just hanging with friends to have fun. So just don't bulldoze yourself forward as all female are prostis and youll be fine. Havana is also well described in ISG phil part. Best bet if you love the barfine game would be Burgos but this I don't know anything about as it is not my style.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1630469]For normal clubs in Manila as in disco and nightclubs (aka zzyzx, ekslusive, republiq, time, paladium, prive, gramercy71 etc etc) there are no barfines only covercharges (sometimes). This is totaly normal clubs and though you will find some FL girls in clubs like this from time to time or girls looking for sugar daddies they also cater to great deal of normal girls. Paladium is probably the most FL directed club of the mentioned one and Time on Makati ave (where many many BG meet up after workinghrs or returning from their ewr's). But barfines no. I hear many negotiates with girls before taking them home. I never but I am sure you can do that at these places as well. Just make sure to step cautiosly as many girls here, probably from the greater part of them, are just hanging with friends to have fun. So just don't bulldoze yourself forward as all female are prostis and youll be fine. Havana is also well described in ISG phil part. Best bet if you love the barfine game would be Burgos but this I don't know anything about as it is not my style.[/QUOTE]Thanks skogis I'm going to be in manila this month and would like to also find a venue for just meeting normal girls who love older menif that's possible. I think I may try illusions just for the hell of it.
LuvAsianTang.
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[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang;1630357]Hello fellow pooners does anyone know about the club illusions in makati? Can the girls there be barfined? I tried searching the forum and googled it but not any info that I could find. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks, LuvAsianTang.[/QUOTE]There a ton of up market night clubs in Manila. These are not girly bars but conventional night clubs. Understand?
Having said that, if you want a sure thing most of these night clubs have freelancers hanging around waiting for easy money. Arrive early, they are easy to spot, sitting around on one drink, eager to make eye contact. Later in the night the clubbers arrive, it's crowded, you can't tell who is who.
Skogis & several other fellas posted detailed info on these clubs in the last couple of months. Read & learn.
AV.
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[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1630308]How do you know they were mongers? The vid gives no clue as to why they were being taken into custody and it looks to me like mr blue sneakers was resisting arrest. If I had to guess I'd venture to say that HE was intoxicated.[/QUOTE]They where Caucasian. One was a long term expat while the other was a vacationer. They were stupid enough to put their grimy mitts on a Filipino. That' all the evidence I need to know they were mongers.
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[QUOTE=Member#4221;1630066][URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54F3o-rJ-aQ[/URL]
The video shows an un-armed Caucasian man wearing a light-colored polo shirt, khaki shorts, and blue sneakers being manhandled by at least seven uniformed officers while another one lay still, just a few meters away. Initially he was being restrained by two Bonifacio Global City guards, and two more quickly join the fray.[/QUOTE]Seems to me the police used excessive restraint.
Truncheons! Truncheons, I tell ya! Truncheons.
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[QUOTE=FredGold;1629773]I will be arriving at about 10 am. What can I expect in terms of traffic? Staying near Havana. Should I buy my Sim card at airport or in town? By 15:00, where is good place to start enjoy my trip. I was thinking Robinson Mall- near my hotel. Best Western.
THANKS HAPPY HUNTING. FRED.
Composing off line, as I only have a small amount of data left on this Sim card.[/QUOTE]I usually arrive around that time, and generally, the traffic is tolerable if you're going to Ermita which would take typically about 25 minutes or less from the airport. If you are indeed staying at BW La Corona and are in need of a sim card, walk down to Padre Faura, cross the street, and turn left and keep walking until you reach the Padre Faura entrance to Robinson's Place Mall. That shouldn't take more than 5 minutes and in the process you'll cross Mabini and see G-Point on your short trek. When you enter Robinson's from Padre Faura, stay to the right in that wing of the mall and within 100 meters, you'll see a couple of phone shops where you can buy the sim, load, and other phone accessories.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1629160]I really enjoy having regular girls because the rapport and chemistry is outstanding. Yet there are a few pitfalls when a few of them become very regular regular girls who visit several nights a week. Firstly, they leave personal items. Clothing, flip flops, shampoo and makeup, a toothbrush, hair drier, etc. Keeping track of what belongs to whom and where they left it is a bit of a hassle. Someone here recommended bagging each girl's stuff when she leaves and then unpacking it before she arrives, and that was good advice that I use; I'll add that I use my mobile's camera to photo where she left the items and then replace them just so. Photo each item. Study it. Why? I once put a pink toothbrush on the basin and a few hours later the girl was demanding to know what happened to her toothbrush. She only uses a pink Colgate toothbrushes and the pink one I put on the sink was a different brand.
Previously I've written about sanitising my place to remove all residue of a girl's visit. I learnt to not overdo it when regulars are in my life. Yes, check the bed and floor for stray hairs. Clean the bathroom, but don't throw away her hairs. Wash all the dishes and put them back in the cabinets; keep in mind the inventory of food and drinks you have and keep things stocked, especially items she likes. Don't throw away the contents of the bathroom's rubbish bin. Pull the partially filled bag from the bin and hide it, replace with an empty bag for the next girl's visit, and before the regular girl returns swap bags, putting her rubbish bag back in the bin. The regular girl will see that the items she threw away earlier are still there. Spread her hairs back on the bathroom floor. Check photos to ensure everything is back where she left it.
Calling it quits. Eventually a girl who doesn't have a husband or partner will tell you she loves you. Yes, it started as a NSA fubu set up, but she's changed. My standard reply is that it takes a long time for me to determine whether or not I love someone and now I don't love her. When the girl asks you to lie to her and tell her you love her then it's gone too far. Pack her stuff before she arrives, break the news, let her cry, hand her her stuff, don't do the goodbye fuck, and don't see her again. Yes, the girl will ask to remain friends and maintain contact. It's best to refuse; it's unkind to the girl to resume seeing her.
Some girls enter, exit, and re-enter my life often. They visit me when they don't have a boyfriend, then they find a guy for a while and stop seeing me, something goes wrong with the new guy or his aeroplane has finished refueling and it's time to go, and the girl is texting me once again to visit. I never hold this "betrayal" against them. I like how these girls compartmentalise, and she's assigned me the proper place in her life.[/QUOTE]Holly shit that's a lot of work. I do some cleanup and make sure no condoms and shit laying around, but shit take pictures and putting back hair. Fuck your like CSI, haha.
I find it better to tell them I do what I want when I want, they don't like it leave. It is their choice. Not one has stopped calling or coming over, if anything they try harder. My main girl started counting condoms in my drawer, she got all sad and stuff. I told her from day one and I told her again. I am not in love with anybody nor will I be, you can except it or leave it. Ifyour upset please leave because it is best for you. She wouldn't leave (now I am very nice and polite but as straight forward as can be).
Your last paragraph great advice. It really is true these girls put you in a place for them and then a place for someone else. They are as slick and secretive as anybody in the world. When they say players learned from thier mothers how to be players- they ant lying. These Pinas are slick.
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I going to stay some days I Pasay. Somebody knows where or how to hook opp girls in daytime in that area? I know were I find it in evening and night time.
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[QUOTE=Henmon;1630716]I going to stay some days I Pasay. Somebody knows where or how to hook opp girls in daytime in that area? I know were I find it in evening and night time.[/QUOTE]I was going to respond to you in PM, as you are a newb. However I see you don't have PM. Two posts in two years, both short questions. And no purchased membership. Sorry no info from me.
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[QUOTE=Docwiltro;1630567]I usually arrive around that time, and generally, the traffic is tolerable if you're going to Ermita which would take typically about 25 minutes or less from the airport. If you are indeed staying at BW La Corona and are in need of a sim card, walk down to Padre Faura, cross the street, and turn left and keep walking until you reach the Padre Faura entrance to Robinson's Place Mall. That shouldn't take more than 5 minutes and in the process you'll cross Mabini and see G-Point on your short trek. When you enter Robinson's from Padre Faura, stay to the right in that wing of the mall and within 100 meters, you'll see a couple of phone shops where you can buy the sim, load, and other phone accessories.[/QUOTE]And in the process of walking to Robinson's Malate, get a free body check / grope / pocket cleaning by street kids, if you are interested.
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[QUOTE=OneIpole;1630711]Holly shit that's a lot of work. I do some cleanup and make sure no condoms and shit laying around, but shit take pictures and putting back hair. Fuck your like CSI, haha.[/QUOTE]It's because I have a few regular girls who come over frequently. The more a girl is around you the more she'll know your patterns. When it's always new girls or the visits are less frequent then the preparation isn't as meticulous; it's simply clean and toss. These regulars know it's a fubu arrangement, perhaps an enhanced fubu plus. Yet, I learnt nothing good comes of it by rubbing their noses in it. Their moods sour, they get sullen, and instead of having a great time I'm now with a pouting girl. No hapenis in that, is there? The minor annoyance of preparation eliminates major aggravation.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1630908]It's because I have a few regular girls who come over frequently. The more a girl is around you the more she'll know your patterns. When it's always new girls or the visits are less frequent then the preparation isn't as meticulous; it's simply clean and toss. These regulars know it's a fubu arrangement, perhaps an enhanced fubu plus. Yet, I learnt nothing good comes of it by rubbing their noses in it. Their moods sour, they get sullen, and instead of having a great time I'm now with a pouting girl. No hapenis in that, is there? The minor annoyance of preparation eliminates major aggravation.[/QUOTE]I confess to having done the photo thing too, too ensure I didn't get the wrong girls toiletries on the sink top. And I've seen girls undo / open / remove the bath plug to see what hairs are wrapped around it (often lots!).
And I've spent hours clearing up hairs. But these days if theres hair, I blame the cleaning service. " The staff have long hair so it must be theirs".
Some girls accept and know they arent the only ones. Some girls want to be the only one.
Some will go looking in closets for evidence of other females " Oh just looking at your clothes / shoes etc). . they are the ones you want to be careful of.
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Some questions
1) How much money it cost fucking for 2 hours a beautiful semi-pro girl in Manila? And for all night?
2) If a man is 55 years old, how much easy is to fuck some regular girls?
3) Manila is a big town, ho much is Manila dispersiveness to find fucking girls? The spot is concentrated in the center city?
I hope you can reply me.
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[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1632150]1) How much money it cost fucking for 2 hours a beautiful semi-pro girl in Manila? And for all night?
2) If a man is 55 years old, how much easy is to fuck some regular girls?
3) Manila is a big town, ho much is Manila dispersiveness to find fucking girls? The spot is concentrated in the center city?
I hope you can reply me.
Thanks[/QUOTE]1) starting from free to unlimited a Freelancer in a Mall from 1000, LA-Cafe calling 2000 to 2500 for a short time.
2) depends on you. Are you white and nice? Smart in hunting? Then it should be easy.
3) RTFM.
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[QUOTE=FoxesHunter;1632150]1) How much money it cost fucking for 2 hours a beautiful semi-pro girl in Manila? And for all night?
2) If a man is 55 years old, how much easy is to fuck some regular girls?
3) Manila is a big town, ho much is Manila dispersiveness to find fucking girls? The spot is concentrated in the center city?
I hope you can reply me.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Here's a 20-year-old honey I picked up two weeks ago outside of Robinson's Mall in Ermita, near the Starbucks. She actually approached me. She wanted only 1000 pesos, and she was definitely worth it. We started with a lengthy 69, and then she got on top and rode me to completion. I gave her the 1000 pesos, plus 200 pesos extra. She didn't want to take nude pics, but let me take the attached. She was a delight, and that lovely smile never left her face. She had a nice body, pencil eraser nipples, and a sweet tasting, naturally hairy pussy, just the way I like. (I dislike shaved pussy.)
I am in my late 50's, and was dressed in just a t-shirt and shorts. I don't know if my honey was a "regular girl," but I sensed that she was not very experienced with P4P scenarios. She claimed to be a student trying to get money for tuition, but who knows?
RG.
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Harrison Plaza Girl
I posted a report with picture in the photo gallery about a sweet young thang I picked up last week in Harrison Plaza mall. Here is the link:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1633006&viewfull=1#post1633006[/URL]
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Spent a few days in Manila last week. My knowledge and experience is limited so just sharing what I can.
Uber. Used this almost exclusively and works great. Only tried uber x which are mainly newer toyotas just like mist taxis. No tipping, no haggling to turn meter on, no pos older cars and not any more expensive. Not sure what they use for uber black. As an example, ride from holiday inn makati to Hyatt was 144 pesos.
Wechat. Tried using the feature that searches nearby users. Lots of pros. Many quoted crazy prices but came down quickly. Did not actually hired one so don't know if they actually show up.
Badoo. I got replies mostly from regular girls with jobs like call center. Met a couple not for sex but just because I wanted some company for conversation and meals.
Facebook. My fake account worked great. Much more effort than say DIA but I like the fact that you can see lots of photos as to no surprises. Lots of students looking for help. At least I think they are students based on their Facebook posts in uniform and at school and such.
Since I stayed at the holiday inn makati I pretty much insisted to meet at glorietta or at the hotel. Rejected any who refused. I saw no point in going all over the place to meet them. The hotel itself is fine. Nothing special, just convenient location wise.
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Harrison Plaza Acquisition and Century Park?
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1633050]I posted a report with picture in the photo gallery about a sweet young thang I picked up last week in Harrison Plaza mall. Here is the link:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1633006&viewfull=1#post1633006[/URL][/QUOTE]RG, given the conversation with mamasan, I presume this was a daytime acquisition. And, assuming you stayed at Century Park, did you have any experience coming in past hotel security with an evening acquisition?
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Facebook. My fake account worked great. Much more effort than say DIA but I like the fact that you can see lots of photos as to no surprises. Lots of students looking for help. At least I think they are students based on their Facebook posts in uniform and at school and such.
Since I stayed at the holiday inn makati I pretty much insisted to meet at glorietta or at the hotel. Rejected any who refused. I saw no point in going all over the place to meet them. The hotel itself is fine. Nothing special, just convenient location wise.[/QUOTE]I usually stay at the Ascott (connected to the Gl 4 as well just different entrance) and I think you did good rejecting the ones refusing to meet you within "your" perimeters. I amrather nazi that way and the longest from my hotel I have bothered to meet a girl is in Greenbelt(atleast lately, earlier i could be more softhearted). I have my designated girl pick up point right infront of hotel entrance and all girls I meet have to be calibrated to come my room otherwice it is just a timewaster (subjective I know). If I am hungry I can ofcourse meet a girl and take her for some food. I alter between Outback, Tony Ramos, Fridys and Italiannis. Not for the gourmes out there but I can't stand local foods and here I get a decent meal.
I agree facebook can give you a better impression of the girls. I am not here to relationship them girls so I don't care so much what their facebook tells. But for the pics it is a great resource. And please be adviced (you probably know allready) that girls as well have fake accounts. I know one girl she is running 4 accounts from which 3 are fake and very few get insights in her family, boyfriend and provincial account. Their normal setup is atleast having 2 (one fake). The fake one they put out all sorts of trouble and indirectly hints for money trouble, they want relationship and all sorts of shit. I guess they try play our softsides. And many succeeds as it is a lot of gullible guys out there. It is finacialy smart to use this angel i guess. The genuine account often tell they are happy, they have child, BF and the hole lot. Quite different from the fake one (almost like my own but in another way if you catch my drift, hehe). I feast for students.
Anyway great report.
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Century Park
[QUOTE=SkipKost;1633259]RG, given the conversation with mamasan, I presume this was a daytime acquisition. And, assuming you stayed at Century Park, did you have any experience coming in past hotel security with an evening acquisition?[/QUOTE]Yes, I was at Century Park, my favorite go-to hotel when I'm in Manila. During the day, and until 10:00 PM, hotel security doesn't care who you bring in, and never stops to question anyone accompanying you. I just walked right in with my lady and went to my room. I was pleased by the fact that, when she left, security detained her on the way out and called me to ensure that everything was okay.
One time I did bring a lady in after 10 pm. Security simply asked her to register her name (and I'd, I think) at the entrance (downstairs entrance), but they didn't charge me any fee or anything. They simply were adding an extra level of security. But once she signed in with me, there was no problem.
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Outback Steak House
[QUOTE=Skogis;1633337]I alter between Outback, Tony Ramos, Fridys and Italiannis.[/QUOTE]I didn't realize that there is an Outback steak house in Manila. Is the beef they use comparable to the steaks and prime rib they serve in the US, or do they use that bland, tasteless Ausie beef?
RG.
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[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1633368]................or do they use that bland, tasteless Ausie beef? RG.[/QUOTE]Holy cow. Are you trying to stir up a nationalistic bull fight here RG? This could become an udderly futile discussion.
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[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1633368]I didn't realize that there is an Outback steak house in Manila. Is the beef they use comparable to the steaks and prime rib they serve in the US, or do they use that bland, tasteless Ausie beef?
RG.[/QUOTE]Well I am no expert on the subject steaks but I find their assortiment of various steaks to my taste. Both outback and tony ramos have some tasty baby ribs. If they use a genuine US or Aussie animals I hope some other steak / beef hungry punter can enlighten RG with. I have not been through the hole menu but their beef is also neetly cooked (I enjoy from rare to medium) with mixed veggies and baked potatoe. It seems the chef know his / her work. Ironicaly I also choose salmon sometimes at the steakhouse. Give it a try. If you are in the area when I am we can give some prime ribs a go together with some nice brews.
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[QUOTE=KongKing;1633423]Holy cow. Are you trying to stir up a nationalistic bull fight here RG? This could become an udderly futile discussion.[/QUOTE]I was under the impression that most of the beef served in the Philippines is imported from Australia. And the beef I've had in the Philippines is terrible. But I might be mistaken, as I have never actually tried beef in Australia, or officially sold as such. So, no offense intended to my Aussie brothers. .
RG.
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[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1633517]I was under the impression that most of the beef served in the Philippines is imported from Australia. And the beef I've had in the Philippines is terrible. But I might be mistaken, as I have never actually tried beef in Australia, or officially sold as such. So, no offense intended to my Aussie brothers. .
RG.[/QUOTE]The best beef served in the Philippines is from Japan, and it's rarely available. BTW, there is a butcher on Pasong Tamo across the street from Makati (formerly Cinema) Square named Kitayama that sells Philippine-raised Kobe (technically wagyu) beef, and it is excellent. The beef is graded and priced using the Japanese grading system, but instead of 5 quality grades they have 8 or 9. A lot of the Aussie beef is grass fed rather than US-style grain fed. It is a stronger taste. If you cook at home pick up the Meltique brand Aussie rib eyes. It's about p1500 per kilo. Another good place to pick up high-quality beef is at Santi's Deli.
Best chain-restaurant ribs in Manila are at Racks. Their sauces are phenomenal, especially the spicy one.
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I agree facebook can give you a better impression of the girls. I am not here to relationship them girls so I don't care so much what their facebook tells. But for the pics it is a great resource. And please be adviced (you probably know allready) that girls as well have fake accounts. I know one girl she is running 4 accounts from which 3 are fake and very few get insights in her family, boyfriend and provincial account. Their normal setup is atleast having 2 (one fake). The fake one they put out all sorts of trouble and indirectly hints for money trouble, they want relationship and all sorts of shit. I guess they try play our softsides. And many succeeds as it is a lot of gullible guys out there. It is finacialy smart to use this angel i guess. The genuine account often tell they are happy, they have child, BF and the hole lot. Quite different from the fake one (almost like my own but in another way if you catch my drift, hehe). I feast for students.
Anyway great report.[/QUOTE]Yes you are absolutely correct in girls having multiple accounts. That's ok for me, all I care about is that I get to see the photos. That way I'm not surprised by fake photos or old photos when they used to look better which can happen on dating sites. Also great because I have now found couple girls who are willing to recruit "mutual friends" and such for me for a small fee.
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Dumb question slightly off topic: how do you set up a fake Face Book account? Currently I have nothing to do with Face Book and that is the way I will keep it unless I can set up a fake.
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[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1633630]Dumb question slightly off topic: how do you set up a fake Face Book account? Currently I have nothing to do with Face Book and that is the way I will keep it unless I can set up a fake.[/QUOTE]I tried to PM you some info, but your inbox is full.
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[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1633630]Dumb question slightly off topic: how do you set up a fake Face Book account? Currently I have nothing to do with Face Book and that is the way I will keep it unless I can set up a fake.[/QUOTE]Simple answer: don't use your real name, especially not surname / family name.
More details:
To open a facebook page all you need is a valid email address.
So go some place an create a new email. (yahoo, gmail, etc.) don't use any real information when creating the new email.
When registering / opening the new facebook , do not use a nickname or handle that you use elsewhere. example my first ISG name was something like QwertyTommy (not the name I used), and I used that name for email, facebook, ym, etc.. if someone googled the name QwertyTommy, they could quickly gather a lot of info about me.
Once the new facebook is created, do not befriend any real life friends, relatives, coworkers, or non-mongers on this account.
Do not use photos that are used elsewhere, search engines can now find duplicates photos from multiple web sites.
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So go some place an create a new email. (yahoo, gmail, etc.) don't use any real information when creating the new email.
[/QUOTE]I believe both yahoo and gmail require a (mobile) phone number to be provided when creating an account nowadays.
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Multiple Facebook Accounts
That is true, but it's not necessarily a sinister scam. If it is, a look around will expose it. Does the friends list include only foreign men? Then it's not her real Facebook. But in my experience, they open a new account when they feel they have outgrown the old one. She doesn't like the name she used, or other details, or some of the friends, or the photos, etc. Maybe there was a stalker or unpleasant conversation. Too many Indian and Muslim guys begging. Starting a new account is the easiest way out. Often you can find the old account by searching the nickname. Often she will "friend" the previous account. Most of them are not clever enough to really hide the truth. And to be fair, it can take me a while to use new programs, with all my education.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1633337]....I agree facebook can give you a better impression of the girls. I am not here to relationship them girls so I don't care so much what their facebook tells. But for the pics it is a great resource. And please be adviced (you probably know allready) that girls as well have fake accounts. I know one girl she is running 4 accounts from which 3 are fake and very few get insights in her family, boyfriend and provincial account. Their normal setup is atleast having 2 (one fake). The fake one they put out all sorts of trouble and indirectly hints for money trouble, they want relationship and all sorts of shit. I guess they try play our softsides. And many succeeds as it is a lot of gullible guys out there. It is finacialy smart to use this angel i guess. The genuine account often tell they are happy, they have child, BF and the hole lot. Quite different from the fake one (almost like my own but in another way if you catch my drift, hehe). I feast for students...[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Cbea20;1633671]Often you can find the old account by searching the nickname. Often she will "friend" the previous account. [/QUOTE]I've found they often spell their names backwards when establishing their new or secret account. Of course each time you catch her she becomes a little brighter, a little shrewder. Baby steps become more confident, faster, and bolder. Then one day it may dawn on you: Heavens! I trained my very own monster.
If you're devoting a lot time and effort investigating a girl it seems to me the relationship's foundation is very unstable; it's best to walk away. Unlikely she'll change her deceptive ways. One really doesn't need that grief.
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Good points. But I ask you, if you eliminate the sneaky ones, what are you left with?
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1633697]I've found they often spell their names backwards when establishing their new or secret account. Of course each time you catch her she becomes a little brighter, a little shrewder. Baby steps become more confident, faster, and bolder. Then one day it may dawn on you: Heavens! I trained my very own monster.
If you're devoting a lot time and effort investigating a girl it seems to me the relationship's foundation is very unstable; it's best to walk away. Unlikely she'll change her deceptive ways. One really doesn't need that grief.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Cbea20;1633785]Good points. But I ask you, if you eliminate the sneaky ones, what are you left with?[/QUOTE]Depends. I don't think all of them are deceptive, but if you believe they all are then it behooves you to remain emotionally aloof. Don't get emotionally tied to the sneaky ones.
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[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1633517]I was under the impression that most of the beef served in the Philippines is imported from Australia. And the beef I've had in the Philippines is terrible. But I might be mistaken, as I have never actually tried beef in Australia, or officially sold as such. So, no offense intended to my Aussie brothers. RG.[/QUOTE]Your muscles would get pretty tough too if you were being chased regularly by Aborigines and dingoes. Oops! No offense intended. I suppose the Aussies now have two excuses to take the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] at the expense of us Yanks. Sure hope there are no Aborigines on the board.
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[QUOTE=SkipKost;1634312]Your muscles would get pretty tough too if you were being chased regularly by Aborigines and dingoes. Oops! No offense intended. I suppose the Aussies now have two excuses to take the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] at the expense of us Yanks. Sure hope there are no Aborigines on the board.[/QUOTE]Hey, I'm from Texas, so I've grown rather spoiled and picky when it comes to a steak. .
RG.
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What I'd give for a good burger from the Weber sometimes. It's been over a year.
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Udder War
Yeah, sounds like he has a beef to grind with Aussie cows!
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1634368]Hey, I'm from Texas, so I've grown rather spoiled and picky when it comes to a steak.
RG.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=CoolTraveler;1635116]Yeah, sounds like he has a beef to grind with Aussie cows![/QUOTE]I'm not so sure that sentiment originates with RG. Seems like many of the board's Oz faithful are chasing Philly fillies precisely because they have given up on their own old Aussie cows.
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[QUOTE=SkipKost;1635388]I'm not so sure that sentiment originates with RG. Seems like many of the board's Oz faithful are chasing Philly fillies precisely because they have given up on their own old Aussie cows.[/QUOTE]Indeed. The Yanks prefer to moooove there, too, to avoid the heffers in the homeland.
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[QUOTE=DCups;1635492]Indeed. The Yanks prefer to moooove there, too, to avoid the heffers in the homeland.[/QUOTE]Germans too, bro DCups!
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The Cups
Those American heffers simple spend too much time at the all-you-can-eat troughs located throughout the USA. So we need to ride on the greener pastures.
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[QUOTE=Ekspat;1635738]Germans too, bro DCups![/QUOTE]Jawohl mein herr Ekspat! Danke for the pic! Love it! I will be in AC Nov 16 and 17 if you happen to be there then let us have some San Migs and grab some big boobs. Prosit!
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[QUOTE=JpSlicky;1635759]Those American heffers simple spend too much time at the all-you-can-eat troughs located throughout the USA. So we need to ride on the greener pastures.[/QUOTE]You said that right, Slicky. Some of these broads should have a sign on their ass like the big trucks do: extra-wide load. Big asses and big non-stop motor mouths. What a pitiful combination. Can't wait to be banging some of those slim and stacked Filipina cuties in less than two weeks. I've got a 19-yo Cebuana DIA lined up who has never been with a Westerner. She is so beautiful I might just fall in love. I just look at AWs now and laugh.
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Multiple Facebook Accounts
[QUOTE=Cbea20;1633785]Good points. But I ask you, if you eliminate the sneaky ones, what are you left with?[/QUOTE]Not much hehehe.
I find FB tedious. Yes I agree you can quickly find them out because FB is so promiscuous by default.
But it works against you also. I go to all this friggin trouble of setting up a mongering FB page & then one of them goes and tags & comments every bloody pic on my FB account! Every new female visitor them immediately 'friends' her and they blab. Have to constantly fiddle with and lock down the settings in FB and keep checking back constantly in case FB has reset them to default again with out notifying me.
AV.
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[QUOTE=Amavida;1636039]Not much hehehe.
But it works against you also. I go to all this friggin trouble of setting up a mongering FB page & then one of them goes and tags & comments every bloody pic on my FB account! Every new female visitor them immediately 'friends' her and they blab.
AV.[/QUOTE]Been there and done that.
I took a couple of pics of a lady when she was visiting my apartment a few years back. She was one of my 4 fb friends at the time.
At the same time, as is normal, I was dating another lady (or three). She was also an fb friend.
I had the standard fb page, that lacked any detail about myself, no photo etc.
BUT. The lady I was dating, was so quick to say " hey freebie, how come Miss xyz has a photo on her fb page, sitting in a sofa that looks remarkably (ok she's a Filipina. I don't think she actually used the word remarkably) similar to the photo I was sitting on, one day earlier than the day she posted her pic.
Technology isn't always a mongers best friend.
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Technology isn't always a mongers best friend
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1636057]Been there and done that.
I took a couple of pics of a lady when she was visiting my apartment a few years back. She was one of my 4 fb friends at the time.
At the same time, as is normal, I was dating another lady (or three). She was also an fb friend.
I had the standard fb page, that lacked any detail about myself, no photo etc.
BUT. The lady I was dating, was so quick to say " hey freebie, how come Miss xyz has a photo on her fb page, sitting in a sofa that looks remarkably (ok she's a Filipina. I don't think she actually used the word remarkably) similar to the photo I was sitting on, one day earlier than the day she posted her pic.
Technology isn't always a mongers best friend.[/QUOTE]Yup! FF know it well.
Recently there was a whole flurry of posts on ISG discussing the post bonk cleanup & the hilarious forensic detail some of us go to hide the signs from a new visitor to our fun rooms.
But what about the bloody cell phone & tablet cameras?? I love to take action pics & the girls delight in selfies but always forget to move / delete pics from the previous session.
You can hear the crickets when they snap a selfie & then flick back through the gallery & there they are in all their glory, previous girl and the girls before them. I got to the stage of not keeping a camera around at all sometimes.
AV.
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[QUOTE=Amavida;1636065]Yup! FF know it well.
Recently there was a whole flurry of posts on ISG discussing the post bonk cleanup & the hilarious forensic detail some of us go to hide the signs from a new visitor to our fun rooms.
But what about the bloody cell phone & tablet cameras?? I love to take action pics & the girls delight in selfies but always forget to move / delete pics from the previous session.
You can hear the crickets when they snap a selfie & then flick back through the gallery & there they are in all their glory, previous girl and the girls before them. I got to the stage of not keeping a camera around at all sometimes.
AV.[/QUOTE]I love the photos a girl sends. "I'm in the province (Northern Luzon) with my family." Geotags in photo says she's at El Nido on Palawan.
Here's a tech tip: Before a girl arrives at your place turn off your wifi.
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[QUOTE=Amavida;1636039]
I find FB tedious. Yes I agree you can quickly find them out because FB is so promiscuous by default.
But it works against you also. I go to all this friggin trouble of setting up a mongering FB page & then one of them goes and tags & comments every bloody pic on my FB account! Every new female visitor them immediately 'friends' her and they blab. Have to constantly fiddle with and lock down the settings in FB and keep checking back constantly in case FB has reset them to default again with out notifying me.
[/QUOTE]For all our derision of wastebook it does have one very compelling advantage: Ubiquity. Text from a friend who is in the provinces: "I never had internet since I moved back home from manila. I only have facebook on phone. " The local telcos have teamed with FB to provide very affordable all-day deals that include unlimited texting and unlimited FB but no other Internet. For many girls FB is their sole dating site.
One just needs to take the proper precautions to prevent spillage.
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Cleaning evidence
I got caught once. One of the girls I frequent. She is gorgeous, and I am addicted to her perfect body. Met her on FC.
Anyway, she comes in early morning. I pay the janitorial staff to do extra cleanup. The room was clean. But she happened to see the huge orange Priority Tag on my luggage, and decided to look at the arrival date on the luggage tag. I mean, who would have even thought then one would scrutinize a luggage tag. I had told her I arrived the night before, when in fact I had arrived 2 days earlier. She was an analyst at a local bank. That morning was the last I saw her. Still miss her.
When you check into your hotel, make it a point to tip the guys who clean the rooms right away. I usually give them a 50 peso tip. Then once one girl leaves, and if they are still outside cleaning. I call them in to clean one more time, and tip them again another 50 peso. They clean, and leave bunch of extra water bottles and such.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1636065]Yup! FF know it well.
Recently there was a whole flurry of posts on ISG discussing the post bonk cleanup & the hilarious forensic detail some of us go to hide the signs from a new visitor to our fun rooms.
But what about the bloody cell phone & tablet cameras?? I love to take action pics & the girls delight in selfies but always forget to move / delete pics from the previous session.
You can hear the crickets when they snap a selfie & then flick back through the gallery & there they are in all their glory, previous girl and the girls before them. I got to the stage of not keeping a camera around at all sometimes.
AV.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1636311]For all our derision of wastebook it does have one very compelling advantage: Ubiquity. Text from a friend who is in the provinces: "I never had internet since I moved back home from manila. I only have facebook on phone. " The local telcos have teamed with FB to provide very affordable all-day deals that include unlimited texting and unlimited FB but no other Internet. For many girls FB is their sole dating site.
[/QUOTE]Facebook ended its Facebook Zero program with Globe on April 25,2014. Do you know how subscribers can get the deals you talk about? I. e. The SMS string to use (or a link to the page that describes it because I can't find it) on the different carriers?
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[QUOTE=JPF;1636549]Facebook ended its Facebook Zero program with Globe on April 25,2014. Do you know how subscribers can get the deals you talk about? I. e. The SMS string to use (or a link to the page that describes it because I can't find it) on the different carriers?[/QUOTE]I'm not a wastebook user; I use Smart's mega250 promotion that gets me a month a texts, 180 minutes of voice calls, and 100 mb of Internet. Promotions come and go, and one's that do exist often seem to have a gotcha, such as Globe's unlimited Internet that is limited. Perhaps this will help you, [URL]http://www1.smart.com.ph/pages/freeinternet[/URL], or this, [URL]http://www1.smart.com.ph/pages/facebook/home[/URL], or this, [URL]http://www1.smart.com.ph/Pages/facebook/mobile-app[/URL] . Read the fine print - seems one could be subject to other fees.
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[QUOTE=CoolTraveler;1636508]I got caught once. One of the girls I frequent. She is gorgeous, and I am addicted to her perfect body. Met her on FC.
Anyway, she comes in early morning. I pay the janitorial staff to do extra cleanup. The room was clean. But she happened to see the huge orange Priority Tag on my luggage, and decided to look at the arrival date on the luggage tag. I mean, who would have even thought then one would scrutinize a luggage tag. I had told her I arrived the night before, when in fact I had arrived 2 days earlier. She was an analyst at a local bank. That morning was the last I saw her. Still miss her.
When you check into your hotel, make it a point to tip the guys who clean the rooms right away. I usually give them a 50 peso tip. Then once one girl leaves, and if they are still outside cleaning. I call them in to clean one more time, and tip them again another 50 peso. They clean, and leave bunch of extra water bottles and such.[/QUOTE]After like you some wrongdoings I now allways remove the baggage tag.
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[QUOTE=CoolTraveler;1636508]I got caught once. One of the girls I frequent. She is gorgeous, and I am addicted to her perfect body. Met her on FC.
Anyway, she comes in early morning. I pay the janitorial staff to do extra cleanup. The room was clean. But she happened to see the huge orange Priority Tag on my luggage, and decided to look at the arrival date on the luggage tag. I mean, who would have even thought then one would scrutinize a luggage tag. I had told her I arrived the night before, when in fact I had arrived 2 days earlier. She was an analyst at a local bank. That morning was the last I saw her. Still miss her.
When you check into your hotel, make it a point to tip the guys who clean the rooms right away. I usually give them a 50 peso tip. Then once one girl leaves, and if they are still outside cleaning. I call them in to clean one more time, and tip them again another 50 peso. They clean, and leave bunch of extra water bottles and such.[/QUOTE]After like you some wrongdoings I now allways remove the baggage tag.
I had a few girls investigating and when confronted it takes to much improvisation to be fun anymore. Here it goes: I have mostly 2/3 girls coming each day I stay in Makati (yeah I know I was about to slow it down but the preassure is everywhere and I have long lists of girls waiting for a shag and donations). I alter girls that the 3 first know I arrive same date as actually do, second set of girls, next day, believe I arrive the same day as we shag and so on. Evidence removals important and sometimes also switch apartment in the middle of my stay have become a close friend.
I don't want to seem as one doing multiple girls, hehe.
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Getting Busted
A couple of years old I was staying on Burgos and I took a girl out of a bar back to my hotel and she started her monthly and bleed all over a hand towel. The following morning at 0700 I had a previous friend working at a call center showing up. So I got up and requested housekeeping to clean the room, while I took a taxi to pick her up. We arrived back in the room and everything seemed perfect, until the houseboy knocked, with the bloody towel in a plastic bag, telling me that I would have to pay for the bloody towel. Needless to say, call center left the room ASAP. Hahahaha.
Robb.
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[QUOTE=Robbaf;1636665]A couple of years old I was staying on Burgos and I took a girl out of a bar back to my hotel and she started her monthly and bleed all over a hand towel. The following morning at 0700 I had a previous friend working at a call center showing up. So I got up and requested housekeeping to clean the room, while I took a taxi to pick her up. We arrived back in the room and everything seemed perfect, until the houseboy knocked, with the bloody towel in a plastic bag, telling me that I would have to pay for the bloody towel. Needless to say, call center left the room ASAP. Hahahaha.
Robb.[/QUOTE]Fucking idiots. Only in the Philippines do they manage to inform you in the worst way possible out of all the different options! Hahahaha.
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Manila Bay Club
I will be arriving late this Wednesday evening, Oct. 29th and by the time I check into my hotel and take a taxi, I should be at the MBC some where around 1. 00 - 1. 30 am.
I haven't been there to the MBC for a fair while and I was wondering if the "system" has changed there, as I have been reading that there is now some pressure on by the bar staff, to buy some of the gals there LD's. Is that true or is that my misinterpretation?
Also what will the pickings by like, at that time of the night? Any ideas on that?
Previously several years ago, I have had a bit of success there, but as I said I haven't been there for several years now.
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=OsakaGin11;1636694]I will be arriving late this Wednesday evening, Oct. 29th and by the time I check into my hotel and take a taxi, I should be at the MBC some where around 1. 00 - 1. 30 am.
I haven't been there to the MBC for a fair while and I was wondering if the "system" has changed there, as I have been reading that there is now some pressure on by the bar staff, to buy some of the gals there LD's. Is that true
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Was there in June, and did notice that the waitresses are standing by the door to take your drink order as soon as you enter the place. I assume this is to discourage those who come in, walk around, then leave. Did not notice any pressure to buy ladies drink, although if you talk to one at the bar, the waitress did ask me if "you want to buy the lady a drink?" I just said "No", and that was the end of it. The quality of women? Very subjective, but I think it is still hit and miss. I did not notice any "fresh" college girls this time, as was common a few years ago.
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LA Cafe
[QUOTE=OsakaGin11;1636694]
I haven't been there to the MBC for a fair while and I was wondering if the "system" has changed there, as I have been reading that there is now some pressure on by the bar staff, to buy some of the gals there LD's. Is that true or is that my misinterpretation?
[/QUOTE]Was there Sunday, not one girl asked me for a drink in over four hours. Admittedly this was quite early 4 pm - 8 pm after which I left with my pick. None of the bar staff requested lady drinks at all. I think LA cafe has improved since I was last there almost two years back. I enjoyed my visit and happy to have left as my choice gave me a GOOOD ride.
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[QUOTE=Slaol;1636770]Was there Sunday, not one girl asked me for a drink in over four hours. Admittedly this was quite early 4 pm - 8 pm after which I left with my pick. None of the bar staff requested lady drinks at all. I think LA cafe has improved since I was last there almost two years back. I enjoyed my visit and happy to have left as my choice gave me a GOOOD ride.[/QUOTE]The girls won't ask for a drink but management will require you to buy one if they haven't and you want to take them out of the dump.
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[QUOTE=Slippery;1636971]The girls won't ask for a drink but management will require you to buy one if they haven't and you want to take them out of the dump.[/QUOTE]Well, that's a reasonable request. San Miguel is reasonably priced, like 90 pesos a bottle. They have a right to ask you to buy something when you loiter on their premises shopping for pussy, don't you think?
RG.
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[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1637011]Well, that's a reasonable request. San Miguel is reasonably priced, like 90 pesos a bottle. They have a right to ask you to buy something when you loiter on their premises shopping for pussy, don't you think?
RG.[/QUOTE]RG, the long standing policy at MBC has been for a guy to buy a girl a ladies drink if she's going to leave with him, I think that what Slip meant. And most girls will dodge the policy by meeting you up the street. And the p90 price you mentioned sounds about right for your beer, but last I heard a LD is p300.
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[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1637016]RG, the long standing policy at MBC has been for a guy to buy a girl a ladies drink if she's going to leave with him, I think that what Slip meant. And most girls will dodge the policy by meeting you up the street. And the p90 price you mentioned sounds about right for your beer, but last I heard a LD is p300.[/QUOTE]Perhaps it is, but when your talking about the weather with a girl and a waitress taps you on the shoulder 3 times in 3 minutes and asks you if you want to buy her a drink, it gets quite annoying. I've been treated better on Fields.
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[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1637016]RG, the long standing policy at MBC has been for a guy to buy a girl a ladies drink if she's going to leave with him, I think that what Slip meant. And most girls will dodge the policy by meeting you up the street. And the p90 price you mentioned sounds about right for your beer, but last I heard a LD is p300.[/QUOTE]90 P beer price jumps to 120 in the evenings.
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I'm not a cheap bastard by any means but that day, they kept bothering me about buying a girl a drink who just came up and sat next to me. I didn't invite her over. It was soooooooo irritating that I haven't been back in the place since. Can a guy just stop for a cold beer on a hot day? Is every guy that goes into the place a tourist?
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[QUOTE=Slippery;1637331]I'm not a cheap bastard by any means but that day, they kept bothering me about buying a girl a drink who just came up and sat next to me. I didn't invite her over. It was soooooooo irritating that I haven't been back in the place since. Can a guy just stop for a cold beer on a hot day? Is every guy that goes into the place a tourist?[/QUOTE]Just smile & say "No thanks, I'm just here for a cold beer on a hot day". Its not hard really. Same method for street hawkers.
AV.
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[QUOTE=Slippery;1637331]I'm not a cheap bastard by any means but that day, they kept bothering me about buying a girl a drink who just came up and sat next to me. I didn't invite her over. It was soooooooo irritating that I haven't been back in the place since. Can a guy just stop for a cold beer on a hot day? Is every guy that goes into the place a tourist?[/QUOTE]You can get better than that from them. Tell the waitress (quietly, in her ear) you don't want to chat the girl, you want privacy and to enjoy your drink alone, and she will shoo the girl away (you will get a nasty look from the girl). After the girl vacates her seat, another will probably take her place next to you (you can't control that). However, the waitress will stop bothering you to purchase the LD.
I've found it helpful to pay for each drink as its delivered. Have the money waiting in your hand when they bring the drink, and before the waitress can drop the drink-order slip in the container in front of you. That way you can pick up and walk about the bar freely with your drink, without carrying that wooden container around. You can also leave the bar at the drop of a hat without having to pay later. I never have more than one drink in MBC or Amazonia anyway; if I can't choose a girl and get out in 15-20 minutes I've probably done something wrong. On occasion I play a game or two of pool there in the back room, but I'm still out the door in 30 minutes and one drink.
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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1637337]You can also leave the bar at the drop of a hat without having to pay later. I never have more than one drink in MBC or Amazonia anyway; if I can't choose a girl and get out in 15-20 minutes I've probably done something wrong. On occasion I play a game or two of pool there in the back room, but I'm still out the door in 30 minutes and one drink.[/QUOTE]I have similar MO. If I'm semi interested I will buy them / me a drink or offer to share mine with her or shake the schwantztooka and ask her if she want a sperm smoothie.
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[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1637016]RG, the long standing policy at MBC has been for a guy to buy a girl a ladies drink if she's going to leave with him, I think that what Slip meant. And most girls will dodge the policy by meeting you up the street. And the p90 price you mentioned sounds about right for your beer, but last I heard a LD is p300.[/QUOTE]They don't have anything called a LD on the menu. What they do have is a p300 shake. If you ask a girl "What are you drinking?" or "Do you want a beer?" the waitress will tell her to buy a shake. This has even happened to regular girls I've brought in from outside.
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Semantics
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1637491]They don't have anything called a LD on the menu. What they do have is a p300 shake. If you ask a girl "What are you drinking?" or "Do you want a beer?" the waitress will tell her to buy a shake. This has even happened to regular girls I've brought in from outside.[/QUOTE]My my, aren't we being picky, LOL. Same as a bar fine / EWR, no matter what you label it, it's still the same. Maybe they don't call it a "Lady's Drink", but they still expect you buy an overpriced drink for the lady if you intend on leaving together with her; that was the point I was trying to make.
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[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1637574]My my, aren't we being picky, LOL. Same as a bar fine / EWR, no matter what you label it, it's still the same. Maybe they don't call it a "Lady's Drink", but they still expect you buy an overpriced drink for the lady if you intend on leaving together with her; that was the point I was trying to make.[/QUOTE]Sorry if I was being "picky". It wasn't my intent. I try to keep things a clear as possible, and often fail, mainly to benefit those readers who are new to the scene. One reads about LDs at bars in Angeles, EDSA, Burgos, etc. one may conclude the same exists at LA. My point is you may buy the girl any drink you wish, but you'll have to take charge and tell the waitress something direct like, "She's having what I'm having." Leave it up to the girl to choose in front of the waitress and the waitress will push her to the p300 shake.
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Casa Ermita becomes Bistro Emilio
Sorry I haven't been much on the forum lately.
In case this information has not been mentioned before, Casa Ermita is now called Bistro Emilio. It's still located at 463 UN ave corner Cortada St in Ermita. The managers Jimmy and Toto really look after you, well I had no issues during several visits. The selection of girls covers a wide range of tastes. Prices still go for P1,500 to 2,000 for all night. I'll be back in November. Enjoy.
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[QUOTE=Avoloz;1637984] Casa Ermita is now called Bistro Emilio. It's still located at xxx UN ave corner xxx St in Ermita. The managers Jimmy and Toto really look after you, well I had no issues during several visits. The selection of girls covers a wide range of tastes. Prices still go for P1,500 to 2,000 for all night. I'll be back in November. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]I know you are being helpful to ISG members but you are also helping local law enforcement agencies who regularly read the ISG forum by putting this information on the open boardfor them and for the cheap charlie non-members who lurk here. (believe me; the local NBI and CIDG groups DO read it).
I hope Jimmy and Toto can deal with the repercussions. Much more sensible for posters to be more circumspect with address and details and suggest that members contact you by PM.
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1638267]I know you are being helpful to ISG members but you are also helping local law enforcement agencies who regularly read the ISG forum by putting this information on the open boardfor them and for the cheap charlie non-members who lurk here. (believe me; the local NBI and CIDG groups DO read it).
I hope Jimmy and Toto can deal with the repercussions. Much more sensible for posters to be more circumspect with address and details and suggest that members contact you by PM.[/QUOTE]Or look on the bright side. More customers = more profits = richer takings by the police. Law enforcement lurkers, let's look to win-win solutions.
And yes, Red, you are right.
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Sorry folks. Did not think along these lines.
Have requested to remove my post.
Cheers.
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Feel your pain
I feel the pain for newbies. I tried to find info about heartbeats in QC. My god I can't find anything. I give up:
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Any alternatives to LA or G-Spot
LA is sometimes too full with pros, at G-Spot normally no interesting girls.
Amazonina seams to be the cemetery of LA-Cafe.
(Was a nice place in the old times, named Firehouse this times).
So any interesting bars / Cafes in the Malate area?
Thanks in advance for every PM tip.
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[QUOTE=JoeMailde;1638903]LA is sometimes too full with pros, at G-Spot normally no interesting girls.
Amazonina seams to be the cemetery of LA-Cafe.
(Was a nice place in the old times, named Firehouse this times).
So any interesting bars / Cafes in the Malate area?
Thanks in advance for every PM tip.[/QUOTE]There are many bars on Del Pilar. There are Hostesses in Some. Depending on your mthod of attracting and closing the deal some of the hostesses are available.
Many freelancers walking at Robinson, Malate. I am sure you saw the location of one of the casa here. There are other casas as well. A trusted Cab driver will take you to one or many.
If you do not want all the "ifs" MBC (Formerly LA cafe) is the best bet. I have taked hard core girls and soft core (Students and surrounding province girls looking to make a buck) . Service generally is surprisingly good from both. Only thing is you need to firm on negotiations. I usually negotiate lower but give little more if the service is good.
Surrounding province girls are very horny but it is not easy to know. Most of them have a child. Good looking college spinners go for the Korean type.
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G Spot
Perhaps you might find more interesting girls if you go to G Point. If you can't use the correct name, its obvious that you haven't spent much time there. Thank you for your input.
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Where the KTV's at?
[QUOTE=OneIpole;1638857]I feel the pain for newbies. I tried to find info about heartbeats in QC. My god I can't find anything. I give up:[/QUOTE]This Heartbeats?
[URL]http://ktvguide.********.com.au/2010/05/heartbeat.html[/URL] No idea why this is obfuscated, pm me if you cant figure it out
[URL]http://ph.wowcity.com/quezoncity/gpid/112754692168540273458/heartbeat-mega-disco.htm[/URL]
[URL]http://www.businesslist.ph/company/167059/heartbeat-mega-ktv[/URL]
AV.
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Early AM arrival
Next time through Manila I will be aarriving early AM. I will be booking an upscale hotel for the following couple of nights but do not want to pay full night for a 5 am arrival.
My plan was to check my luggage at the upscale hotel then heading to Amazonia and getting a room there and then getting some morning companionship from there or Manila Bay (or G Spot?) to pass the time with until check in time at regular hotel.
After reading the posts below this may not be such a good idea.
Any idea is this would be a viable plan?
Which would be recommended place. For a 6 am to noon hook up?
What would be going rate for a lady or two for the morning?
Any other ideas on how to pass the morning until I can check. Into hotel?
A massage place. Offering FS would be another option. Any open then?
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[QUOTE=KabulGuy;1639039]Next time through Manila I will be aarriving early AM.[/QUOTE]Manila is a big city of 20 million people with horrendous traffic. It would help if you said where you are primarily staying.
AV.
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[QUOTE=KabulGuy;1639039]Next time through Manila I will be aarriving early AM. I will be booking an upscale hotel for the following couple of nights but do not want to pay full night for a 5 am arrival.
My plan was to check my luggage at the upscale hotel then heading to Amazonia and getting a room there and then getting some morning companionship from there or Manila Bay (or G Spot?) to pass the time with until check in time at regular hotel.
After reading the posts below this may not be such a good idea.
Any idea is this would be a viable plan?
Which would be recommended place. For a 6 am to noon hook up?
What would be going rate for a lady or two for the morning?
Any other ideas on how to pass the morning until I can check. Into hotel?
A massage place. Offering FS would be another option. Any open then?[/QUOTE]Amazonia is often a ghost town at any hour, so if paranormal ghost bustin' is your thing... Happy Halloween everybody! GPoint closes at 3 am or so. It re-opens in the morning to get ready for the lunch buffet, but I doubt there are any women there until the night. There is a small hotel right next door to LA Cafe. Look in the Manila Hotels thread for its name. You can find a dozen or two women at LA from about 7 am to 11 am, and then more start arriving for the afternoon. Keep in mind that supply follows demand. If there are still many guys there at 5-6 am many of the night time girls will stick around too.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1639056] You can find a dozen or two women at LA from about 7 am to 11 am. If there are still many guys there at 5-6 am many of the night time girls will stick around too.[/QUOTE]Yes, hooked up with a delicious lactating young mama at 6 AM there at LAC last June. Considering my plane landed at 4:30 AM I was super happy. What a nice welcome to the PI!
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[QUOTE=KabulGuy;1639039]Next time through Manila I will be aarriving early AM. I will be booking an upscale hotel for the following couple of nights but do not want to pay full night for a 5 am arrival.
My plan was to check my luggage at the upscale hotel then heading to Amazonia and getting a room there and then getting some morning companionship from there or Manila Bay (or G Spot?) to pass the time with until check in time at regular hotel.
After reading the posts below this may not be such a good idea.
Any idea is this would be a viable plan?
Which would be recommended place. For a 6 am to noon hook up?
What would be going rate for a lady or two for the morning?
Any other ideas on how to pass the morning until I can check. Into hotel?
A massage place. Offering FS would be another option. Any open then?[/QUOTE]Just a few comments regarding your situation. It's possible your hotel may allow you to check in early, it never hurts to ask. At that time, I'd probably recommend LA Cafe if you really want to try for a hook up. You will probably get approached by people offering themselves or to find you someone also just by walking in that area. Be smart. Amazonia is not the only short time hotel in that area. If you are not able to check in and find yourself bored at LAC or other, you can always go to a mall and hangout. I think most open up about 10 am. You will probably be able to check in also by around 11 or 12 possibly to your hotel also if they aren't really busy, something I'd ask when you leave your bags at your selected hotel.
In regards to that time, there's no guarantee you will find someone to your liking, but really you won't know unless you try. It's not the most ideal time but you never know what you might come upon.
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[QUOTE=Amavida;1639041]Manila is a big city of 20 million people with horrendous traffic. It would help if you said where you are primarily staying.
AV.[/QUOTE]Purpose of layover is to monger and get over jet lag so I am open to staying anywhere.
High end hotel was gong to be Hyatt in Malate but can be anywhere.
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[QUOTE=KabulGuy;1639117]Purpose of layover is to monger and get over jet lag so I am open to staying anywhere.
High end hotel was gong to be Hyatt in Malate but can be anywhere.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure they also have a casino there. You may be able to find a gambling addict from there who is down on their luck looking to replenish their funds.
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Hyatt. Malate
[QUOTE=KeyMaster;1639122]Pretty sure they also have a casino there. You may be able to find a gambling addict from there who is down on their luck looking to replenish their funds.[/QUOTE]They sure do have a casino, and a club across the street 2nd floor.
PM.
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[QUOTE=KeyMaster;1639122]Pretty sure they also have a casino there. You may be able to find a gambling addict from there who is down on their luck looking to replenish their funds.[/QUOTE]There certainly is a casino there. One may even find the girl one picked up earlier at LA gambling away what one paid her.
To OP, as said earlier see whether the Hyatt will accommodate your early check in at a reduced rate or even no charge. Never hurts to ask. LA is really your only option unless you work the dating sites. A lot of call centre girls finish in the morning. In addition to the hotel next to LA and Amazonia you could go to the Sogo. There are even a few pensions in the area. There was a comment 12 -18 months ago by someone who put together a list or found a list of all the hotels, including a lot of the very affordable places.
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[QUOTE=KabulGuy;1639039]Next time through Manila I will be aarriving early AM. I will be booking an upscale hotel for the following couple of nights but do not want to pay full night for a 5 am arrival.
My plan was to check my luggage at the upscale hotel then heading to Amazonia and getting a room there and then getting some morning companionship from there or Manila Bay (or G Spot?) to pass the time with until check in time at regular hotel.
After reading the posts below this may not be such a good idea.
Any idea is this would be a viable plan?
Which would be recommended place. For a 6 am to noon hook up?
What would be going rate for a lady or two for the morning?
Any other ideas on how to pass the morning until I can check. Into hotel?
A massage place. Offering FS would be another option. Any open then?[/QUOTE]Hey KG, try Cherry Blossom up next to the mall. Or you can try this place, which is right next door to LA:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2505-Manila-Hotels&p=1425393[/URL]#post1425393.
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First time in Manila
Hi fellow mongers,
I am going to be visiting Manila for the first time. Read a lot about LA and G Spot. I am going to stay in Pasig area near Ortigas Business Centre. Wanted to know if the hotels in this area are Girl Friendly? Also if there are good places to move around and find some good pussy. Will really appreciate some help and even I am open to team up with any member for mongering. Please PM me in case you have some contacts. Any help will be greatly appreciated and in turn any help in India if needed will be given.
Thanks in advance.
Pratty69
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[QUOTE=KeyMaster;1639122]Pretty sure they also have a casino there. You may be able to find a gambling addict from there who is down on their luck looking to replenish their funds.[/QUOTE]That might work for first full night here, but I am looking for some action in early AM. With jet lag that is early evening according to where my body clock will be then.
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[QUOTE=Slippery;1638992]Perhaps you might find more interesting girls if you go to G Point. If you can't use the correct name, its obvious that you haven't spent much time there. Thank you for your input.[/QUOTE]Oh, what a crime. I've actually written G-spot instead of G-Points. For this sacrilege I will surely burn in hell.
I was in there a few times. But never satisfied with the selection, quite old semester.
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Early am check in
Which ever hotel you book into, call ahead and find out their am check in policies. Some will allow, and some won't. Also to do with season, and how busy the hotel is. Remember people checkout in the AM. And staff got to clean the hotel. Cleaning staff normally do not get it or start until 8 am. So, when you get the to the hotel, look happy, and nicely ask to be helped out. Tell them you really need to crash, and can you check in early.
I arrived at Intercon at 4:30 am. They checked me in. I was not expecting that. So, it was nice, even though I hadn't planned any hookups.
CT
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;1639039]Next time through Manila I will be aarriving early AM. I will be booking an upscale hotel for the following couple of nights but do not want to pay full night for a 5 am arrival.
My plan was to check my luggage at the upscale hotel then heading to Amazonia and getting a room there and then getting some morning companionship from there or Manila Bay (or G Spot?) to pass the time with until check in time at regular hotel.
After reading the posts below this may not be such a good idea.
Any idea is this would be a viable plan?
Which would be recommended place. For a 6 am to noon hook up?
What would be going rate for a lady or two for the morning?
Any other ideas on how to pass the morning until I can check. Into hotel?
A massage place. Offering FS would be another option. Any open then?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Pratty69;1639150]Hi fellow mongers,
I am going to be visiting Manila for the first time. Read a lot about LA and G Spot. I am going to stay in Pasig area near Ortigas Business Centre. Wanted to know if the hotels in this area are Girl Friendly? Also if there are good places to move around and find some good pussy. Will really appreciate some help and even I am open to team up with any member for mongering. Please PM me in case you have some contacts. Any help will be greatly appreciated and in turn any help in India if needed will be given.[/QUOTE]Pratty,
There is a wealth of information on those questions in this thread so why not try RTFF? You will be very surprised by what you find. Also look for FRs on 'give and take'.
In the UAE board Pratty et al is called a 'manager' for reasonably obvious reasons. And also look up the UK colloquial definition of your handle as also pertinent.
Slippery he said G Spot just as JM did LOL.
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[QUOTE=JoeMailde;1639225]Oh, what a crime. I've actually written G-spot instead of G-Points. For this sacrilege I will surely burn in hell.
I was in there a few times. But never satisfied with the selection, quite old semester.[/QUOTE]JM,
We all make mistakes as age plays tricks on the memory but you have 7 FRs over 9 years (the fort being 2005) and have been to the Philippines before so why no FRs. Just a question as maybe the choice in the Philippines is not up to the standards you need (which would seriously surprise me and many others) or?
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[QUOTE=Pratty69;1639150]. . I am going to stay in Pasig area near Ortigas Business Centre. Wanted to know if the hotels in this area are Girl Friendly? Also if there are good places to move around and find some good pussy. [/QUOTE]You need to know (had you read the forum you would already know) that there are very few opportunities to pick up or meet girls in Ortigas area despite there being 4 large malls within a short distance.
Most hotels in Ortigas Center area are GF but most are also 3 and 4-star so you will attract attention if you arrive late at night with some slutty-looking bar girl. Because you are staying in Ortigas I can assume you are in Manila on business so you might want to fly under the radar, especially if your company has booked your accommodation.
Whatever. . you will have to cover distances ranging from 30 - 90 minutes or even longer (we measure distances in terms of time in Manila) depending on the day and the busy rush-hour time with the traffic, especially if you wish to go to Makati or LAC or anywhere in Malate / Ermita. If you are serious about mongering you should stay somewhere else other than Ortigas.
And, as WR advises, do some homework by reading the past posts where all of your queries are answered in detail.
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Ortigas hotels reply
They are definitely girl friendly, throw the bellman 500 and he will bring you one of your choice of age, weight, etc. I've done it.
Holiday inn, Crowne plaza. And all those malls are Attached or in walking distance to test your skills or get her a "pair of shoes" for her efforts.
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[QUOTE=Poolmover;1639542]They are definitely girl friendly, throw the bellman 500 and he will bring you one of your choice of age, weight, etc. I've done it.
Holiday inn, Crowne plaza. And all those malls are Attached or in walking distance to test your skills or get her a "pair of shoes" for her efforts.[/QUOTE]Holiday Inn and Crowne Plaza are both linked to Robinson's Galleria; Shangri-la EDSA hotel is linked to Shangri-la Plaza. The other malls (SM Megamall, Podium) do not have attached hotels but there are numerous hotels that are a relatively short-walk away.
As Poolmover says, you can call up any number of masseuses or get a bellman to "procure" you a girl in any hotel pretty much anywhere in the world, so no surprise he's done it in Ortigas. Craig's List frequently features "Ortigas" girls too, but I suggest that in general the malls in Ortigas listed above are NOT like Robinson's in Malate, for example, and your chances of finding any strolling gfs are extremely unlikely.
No doubt someone will boast of finding someone in one of the Ortigas malls but I suggest that, if so, it was a lucky stroke and mongers will waste a lot of time and energy if they go trolling there as it will be very hit-or-miss and you may need to be young, blonde and blue-eyed.
One place where a friend told me he had some success is Starmall across from Shangri-la Plaza on the Shaw Boulevard-EDSA Crossing corner. It's very much a "local" shopping area and foreigners are rarely seen there. There is a Padi's Point there. These are local bars which are here and there around metro Manila and are sometimes a place to meet people. There is no "bar scene" in Ortigas as in Makati, and Metrowalk on the edge of Ortigas is the best-known live music resto-bar scene in the area.
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Early check in
[QUOTE=CoolTraveler;1639255]Which ever hotel you book into, call ahead and find out their am check in policies. Some will allow, and some won't. Also to do with season, and how busy the hotel is. Remember people checkout in the AM. And staff got to clean the hotel. Cleaning staff normally do not get it or start until 8 am. So, when you get the to the hotel, look happy, and nicely ask to be helped out. Tell them you really need to crash, and can you check in early.
I arrived at Intercon at 4:30 am. They checked me in. I was not expecting that. So, it was nice, even though I hadn't planned any hookups.
CT[/QUOTE]To Cool Traveler.
I am very surprise they allow you to check in so early, I know most hotel will charge you 30-50% for checking in early most hotel will charge you for any little thing like a extra pillow or stain on a towel.
Fast eddie 48.
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[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1640119]To Cool Traveler.
I am very surprise they allow you to check in so early, I know most hotel will charge you 30-50% for checking in early most hotel will charge you for any little thing like a extra pillow or stain on a towel.
Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]The more expensive, the less flexible unless you are in the multi millionaire circle. Depends also on the desk girl, some are sweeties who will happily bend the rules with a smile and a nod.
AV.
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Re:
[QUOTE=Amavida;1639037]This Heartbeats?
[URL]http://ktvguide.********.com.au/2010/05/heartbeat.html[/URL] No idea why this is obfuscated, pm me if you cant figure it out
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[URL]http://www.businesslist.ph/company/167059/heartbeat-mega-ktv[/URL]
AV.[/QUOTE]I appreciate it bro, but I meant here in side ISG. I was looking for a report of how someone liked it and what they thought.
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Be careful
Its getting close to Christmas time. That means stealing and robing time. My friend got it two days ago (although he is filipino). On the bus a guy sat next to him, pulled out a gun and took his cellphone.
Also be careful of cabs.
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[QUOTE=KabulGuy;1639039]Next time through Manila I will be aarriving early AM. I will be booking an upscale hotel for the following couple of nights but do not want to pay full night for a 5 am arrival. [/QUOTE]Flights from Canada on PAL arrive at about 05:00. On my first trip to Manila my travel agent in Canada contacted the Dusit and arranged an early check in for me at no extra charge. When I arrived at the hotel the staff were perfect and welcoming saying "we have been expecting you Mr. Nut" and up to the room I went. My suggestion is if you are using a travel agent it may be worth having your travel agent send an e-mail requesting an early check in on your behalf.
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[QUOTE=Amanut; send an e-mail requesting an early check in on your behalf. Ya, I forgot to do that but Century Park hotel still checked me in early at 5:00 AM at no extra charge. Then they moved me to a better room at 1 PM. I really like it here.
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Manila first visit
Hello All,
Any comments on if I should stay at this place? Main purpose is not really hanging out over at P Burgos every night but takeout and some DIA pre set up dates. Also perhaps play some poker at Solaire. Would this location be inconvenient as on map it seems far from these places. Any helpful comments appreciated here or PM.
I'm getting a great rate of $30 day and thought about Makati area too but need to make a decision soon LOL.
SM Light Residences, Madison, Mandaluyong, Metro Manila, Philippines.
PC out.
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[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1641731]Hello All,
Any comments on if I should stay at this place? Main purpose is not really hanging out over at P Burgos every night but takeout and some DIA pre set up dates. Also perhaps play some poker at Solaire. Would this location be inconvenient as on map it seems far from these places. Any helpful comments appreciated here or PM.
I'm getting a great rate of $30 day and thought about Makati area too but need to make a decision soon LOL.
SM Light Residences, Madison, Mandaluyong, Metro Manila, Philippines.
PC out.[/QUOTE]1) Depends on what time you plan to go to Burgos. Traffic starts getting heavy from 4 pm and doesn't abate until 9 pm or even later. Your taxi should be from p100 to p150.
2) For meeting DIA girls it's a decent location because it's very near Boni Ave MRT and EDSA, and this makes it easy for a girl to visit you. If you're the type that wants to meet at a public location first you're a short distance from Shangri La mall. There's also a Robinson's Galleria and SM Mega Mall close by. Quezon City, which is Metro Manila's largest city, is just down the road; plenty of girls from QC in DIA. BTW, there are several large call centres in the area if you're into morning hookups.
3) Solaire is far, but is a straight shot down EDSA. Like traveling to Burgos the time of day you travel is important. Traveling to / from SM Light Residences and Solaire may actually be easier and faster than doing so from a place near Burgos.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1641750]1) Depends on what time you plan to go to Burgos. Traffic starts getting heavy from 4 pm and doesn't abate until 9 pm or even later. Your taxi should be from p100 to p150.
How much is taxi from airport and what kind should I take not to get clipped and On meter better I suppose?
2) For meeting DIA girls it's a decent location because it's very near Boni Ave MRT and EDSA, and this makes it easy for a girl to visit you. If you're the type that wants to meet at a public location first you're a short distance from Shangri La mall. There's also a Robinson's Galleria and SM Mega Mall close by. Quezon City, which is Metro Manila's largest city, is just down the road; plenty of girls from QC in DIA. BTW, there are several large call centres in the area if you're into morning hookups.
Speaking of MRT system in Manila, is it safe and fast? Whats the call center reference you speak of as Im not sure what u mean by that?
3) Solaire is far, but is a straight shot down EDSA. Like traveling to Burgos the time of day you travel is important. Traveling to / from SM Light Residences and Solaire may actually be easier and faster than doing so from a place near Burgos.[/QUOTE]Is taxi or Metro better to go there as I am flexible time wise as no rush to anywhere really haha. Just a short vacation and hooking up.
also are there pre paid SIM cards for my phone at airport or do I need to go to mobile store to buy. Best place to change USD to pesos?
PC out.
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[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1641756]Is taxi or Metro better to go there as I am flexible time wise as no rush to anywhere really haha. Just a short vacation and hooking up.
also are there pre paid SIM cards for my phone at airport or do I need to go to mobile store to buy. Best place to change USD to pesos?
PC out.[/QUOTE]Define "better". I use mass transport more often than taxis during the daytime. It's certainly cheaper. But I also weigh time and effort wih the saving. For example traveling from my condo in Makati to Resorts World by taxi is p120 plus p20 for the Skyway toll. It usually takes less than 15 minutes. Using mass transit would be considerably slower involving a jeep ride, then the MRT, and the RW shuttle. During the daytime the MRT / LRT may be better, but during the rush hours they are packed. Of course getting a taxi during rush hour or when it rains can be difficult too. The MRT / LRT cease service at approx 1030 pm. People are advised to use taxis at night, and I usually do so unless I have a short commute when I'll use the jeep. You can pick up a SIM easily at most markets and convenience stores too. I don't know what terminal you'll be arriving at; in terminal 3 there is a small grocer that sells SIMs for small mark up, p50 for a p40 Smart SIM. Keep in mind that there are three types of SIMs, so finding the micro or nano SIM can be a bit more challenging. The Muslim money changers usually have the best rate except on the weekend when they lower the rate by p1 - p1.5. You can usually find money changers in or near malls, but I don't know about your neighbourhood. The banks rates aren't greatly different, but the transaction is slow. If you're here for a short stay and not changing thousands of dollars / euros then the few hundred extra pesos you get by using a Muslim may not be worth the hassle if the journey is far.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1641773]Define "better". I use mass transport more often than taxis during the daytime. It's certainly cheaper. But I also weigh time and effort wih the saving. For example traveling from my condo in Makati to Resorts World by taxi is p120 plus p20 for the Skyway toll. It usually takes less than 15 minutes. Using mass transit would be considerably slower involving a jeep ride, then the MRT, and the RW shuttle. During the daytime the MRT / LRT may be better, but during the rush hours they are packed. Of course getting a taxi during rush hour or when it rains can be difficult too. The MRT / LRT cease service at approx 1030 pm. People are advised to use taxis at night, and I usually do so unless I have a short commute when I'll use the jeep. You can pick up a SIM easily at most markets and convenience stores too. I don't know what terminal you'll be arriving at; in terminal 3 there is a small grocer that sells SIMs for small mark up, p50 for a p40 Smart SIM. Keep in mind that there are three types of SIMs, so finding the micro or nano SIM can be a bit more challenging. The Muslim money changers usually have the best rate except on the weekend when they lower the rate by p1 - p1.5. You can usually find money changers in or near malls, but I don't know about your neighbourhood. The banks rates aren't greatly different, but the transaction is slow. If you're here for a short stay and not changing thousands of dollars / euros then the few hundred extra pesos you get by using a Muslim may not be worth the hassle if the journey is far.[/QUOTE]I'm sure I will change at least 1000 usd for this trip or more depending so 44000 pesos at least.
Seems I will play more poker at Soleil since its new and such so I should take taxi and use Skyway I suppose. 20 p is. 50 cents usd so I can swing it LOL however if some of these DIA dates work well, I play on staying at the condo and fucking more LOL.
Then letting the girl take me around places and go site seeing or to the beach for a day what have you and whatever strikes our fancy. If I take a non pro gal, I suspect I will of course feed her well and buy her some small gifts. What is the usual for this type of situation on Philo as I'm sure its not too different than any other 3rd world country and give her some cash at the end of it all.
PC out.
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[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1641756]Is taxi or Metro better to go there as I am flexible time wise as no rush to anywhere really haha. Just a short vacation and hooking up.
also are there pre paid SIM cards for my phone at airport or do I need to go to mobile store to buy. Best place to change USD to pesos?
PC out.[/QUOTE]PCP if this is your maiden trip so want simplification and ease of use. Forget about Jeeps, the MRT and shuttles. Hutsori obviously lives there, how he travels efficiently as a resident and you will travel as a first time stranger in a strange land short term tourist is night and day. Unfortunately you are at the mercy of the legendarily corrupt Manila taxi corps.
1) First make sure you exchange at least $20 usd / Euro at the airport ask for all in 100,50 and 20 peso notes.
2) Take the metered yellow taxis at the airport and insist they turn on the meter before you tell them your destination.
3) Before getting into any manila taxi tell him your destination and ask him if he knows where is if he hesitates slam the door and try the next one. They are notorious for driving in circles and asking for directions.
4) Once you determine he knows where the hell you are going ask- Do you have a meter? Make sure he turns it on before you get ten meters otherwise demand he stop and get out.
5) You will need those small bills because none of these guys, after even a 10 hour shift ever has change, supposedly.
6) Hopefully you will encounter the 15 -20% of Manila cabbies who just take you where you want to go without all the games.
If the fellow is amongst the aforementioned simple honest taxi drivers who follow rules please tip him modestly and he will appreciate it greatly. If he pulls any of the crap in 1-5 just get your gear and move on. Never encourage that behavior.
Once you get a girl let her be in charge of all transportation communications while observing rules 1 - 5 are being followed quietly.
Forget the public transportation it can be quick for a savvy local but an impenetrable cluster fuck for an unguided first timer. If the girl says take the jeep etc. With her hell yes follow her. The girls are used to traveling like Hutsori does their whole lives.
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[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1641731]Hello All,
Any comments on if I should stay at this place? Main purpose is not really hanging out over at P Burgos every night but takeout and some DIA pre set up dates. Also perhaps play some poker at Solaire. Would this location be inconvenient as on map it seems far from these places. Any helpful comments appreciated here or PM.
I'm getting a great rate of $30 day and thought about Makati area too but need to make a decision soon LOL.
SM Light Residences, Madison, Mandaluyong, Metro Manila, Philippines.
PC out.[/QUOTE]That's an extremely busy area (traffic, noise, pollution). It may look close to P. Burgos on the map but you are 'going to find commuting back and forth costly & time consuming in my experience. Hotels in Manila are overpriced. Might as well stay in a nice one close to your mongering and avoid the stress.
AV.
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[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1641795]I'm sure I will change at least 1000 usd for this trip or more depending so 44000 pesos at least.
Seems I will play more poker at Soleil since its new and such so I should take taxi and use Skyway I suppose. 20 p is. 50 cents usd so I can swing it LOL however if some of these DIA dates work well, I play on staying at the condo and fucking more LOL.
Then letting the girl take me around places and go site seeing or to the beach for a day what have you and whatever strikes our fancy. If I take a non pro gal, I suspect I will of course feed her well and buy her some small gifts. What is the usual for this type of situation on Philo as I'm sure its not too different than any other 3rd world country and give her some cash at the end of it all.
PC out.[/QUOTE]For your $1000 I reckon you can be +/- p500 to p1500 depending on where and when you change money.
If you stay at that condo you won't be using the Skyway to go to Solaire. For nearby sightseeing you have Tagaytay and for beaches it's Subic, Zambales or Batangas.
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[QUOTE=Amavida;1641815]That's an extremely busy area (traffic, noise, pollution). It may look close to P. Burgos on the map but you are 'going to find commuting back and forth costly & time consuming in my experience. Hotels in Manila are overpriced. Might as well stay in a nice one close to your mongering and avoid the stress.
AV.[/QUOTE]AV,
I don't plan on being at P Burgos except maybe 2 times as the most.
The condo on 50th flr so noise hopefully less that high LOL.
Anyway I will travel by cab in the early morning or late at night not travel. I hate traffic as well.
Any other suggestions will be great
PC out.
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Cheaper places in metro Manila
[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1641731]Any comments on if I should stay at this place? I'm getting a great rate of $30 day and thought about Makati area too but need to make a decision soon LOL.
SM Light Residences, Madison, Mandaluyong, Metro Manila, Philippines. [/QUOTE]Have you checked the size of the bed? I had to stay in Manila for a night on my outbound trip and I booked at one of these cheaper budget places. Pictures looked good and the room was big. When I got there, The room was still big but had the smallest bed I have seen. It was what little kids sleep on. I was too tired to argue and spent the night falling off the bed and getting back on, repeated through out the night. It just not ruined my night but also the day as I was tired and had to forget about any day time action plans.
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[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1641871]Have you checked the size of the bed? I had to stay in Manila for a night on my outbound trip and I booked at one of these cheaper budget places. Pictures looked good and the room was big. When I got there, The room was still big but had the smallest bed I have seen. It was what little kids sleep on. I was too tired to argue and spent the night falling off the bed and getting back on, repeated through out the night. It just not ruined my night but also the day as I was tired and had to forget about any day time action plans.[/QUOTE]Concur. I make a habit of confirming, via email, my room appointment requirements (regardless of what the website says). The bed size you speak of is 'twin', or 'single', and its a no-no on my list. Many pilipine hotels offer a 'full', 'double' or even what they call a 'queen' bed, which is not such at all: its two twin beds pushed together, with a queen bedsheet pulled over top (or worse, sometimes the twin bedsheets are on top of the mattress, and the beds are simply pushed together). Those beds often push apart in the night, and myself or my tart start to fall to the floor. Talk about culture clash and vocabulary confusion: explaining the next day to the front desk will simply draw the vacant stare from hotel personnel; as they will not understand that your two twin beds are not a 'queen' bed. "Very big that bed sir". Please move me to a room that does not have small beds pushed together. "We don't have that sir. Queen or twin. You choose".
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Early AM arrival
Contact the hotel before you book. Especially if it is a 5 star. I have never had anyone say NO to me.
[QUOTE=Amanut;1640827]Flights from Canada on PAL arrive at about 05:00. On my first trip to Manila my travel agent in Canada contacted the Dusit and arranged an early check in for me at no extra charge. When I arrived at the hotel the staff were perfect and welcoming saying "we have been expecting you Mr. Nut" and up to the room I went. My suggestion is if you are using a travel agent it may be worth having your travel agent send an e-mail requesting an early check in on your behalf.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1641965]Concur. I make a habit of confirming, via email, my room appointment requirements (regardless of what the website says). The bed size you speak of is 'twin', or 'single', and its a no-no on my list.
Hopefully bed big enough for 2 Pinays and me lol
Many pilipine hotels offer a 'full', 'double' or even what they call a 'queen' bed, which is not such at all: its two twin beds pushed together, with a queen bedsheet pulled over top (or worse, sometimes the twin bedsheets are on top of the mattress, and the beds are simply pushed together). Those beds often push apart in the night, and myself or my tart start to fall to the floor. Talk about culture clash and vocabulary confusion: explaining the next day to the front desk will simply draw the vacant stare from hotel personnel; as they will not understand that your two twin beds are not a 'queen' bed. "Very big that bed sir". Please move me to a room that does not have small beds pushed together. "We don't have that sir. Queen or twin. You choose".[/QUOTE]Its looks like one bed for 2. Might have to go to the floor if not.
PC out.
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[QUOTE=Pantot;1641809]PCP if this is your maiden trip so want simplification and ease of use. Forget about Jeeps, the MRT and shuttles. Hutsori obviously lives there, how he travels efficiently as a resident and you will travel as a first time stranger in a strange land short term tourist is night and day. Unfortunately you are at the mercy of the legendarily corrupt Manila taxi corps.
1) First make sure you exchange at least $20 usd / Euro at the airport ask for all in 100,50 and 20 peso notes.
2) Take the metered yellow taxis at the airport and insist they turn on the meter before you tell them your destination.
3) Before getting into any manila taxi tell him your destination and ask him if he knows where is if he hesitates slam the door and try the next one. They are notorious for driving in circles and asking for directions.
4) Once you determine he knows where the hell you are going ask- Do you have a meter? Make sure he turns it on before you get ten meters otherwise demand he stop and get out.
5) You will need those small bills because none of these guys, after even a 10 hour shift ever has change, supposedly.
6) Hopefully you will encounter the 15 -20% of Manila cabbies who just take you where you want to go without all the games.
If the fellow is amongst the aforementioned simple honest taxi drivers who follow rules please tip him modestly and he will appreciate it greatly. If he pulls any of the crap in 1-5 just get your gear and move on. Never encourage that behavior.
Once you get a girl let her be in charge of all transportation communications while observing rules 1 - 5 are being followed quietly.
Forget the public transportation it can be quick for a savvy local but an impenetrable cluster fuck for an unguided first timer. If the girl says take the jeep etc. With her hell yes follow her. The girls are used to traveling like Hutsori does their whole lives.[/QUOTE]Good info sir.
I am trying to get a DIA gal to meet me at the airport and pick me up. We can go to Condo from there and maybe no issues with cab etc. I will actually be changing some pesos here in Hong Kong for the trip. Seems like good rates here.
PC out.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1641826]For your $1000 I reckon you can be +/- p500 to p1500 depending on where and when you change money.
If you stay at that condo you won't be using the Skyway to go to Solaire. For nearby sightseeing you have Tagaytay and for beaches it's Subic, Zambales or Batangas.[/QUOTE]Someone said they had a private driver for about 400 p a day and he could go anywhere etc. Anyone know this guy?
PC out.
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Public Transit
Though I've been an avid user of mass transit in other countries in which I've lived, I never use it (aside from taxis) here. The jeeps are uncomfortable, hot, slow and, in my view not all that safe. The MRT is too crowded, inefficient and unreliable, and it often goes nowhere near where I want to be. As I've written before, I've become an increasingly frequent customer of Uber, as it's the safest, most comfortable and reliable transport option I've found here. The Uber X cars are no more expensive than taxis and never try to rip you off.
GE.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1642724]Though I've been an avid user of mass transit in other countries in which I've lived, I never use it (aside from taxis) here. The jeeps are uncomfortable, hot, slow and, in my view not all that safe. The MRT is too crowded, inefficient and unreliable, and it often goes nowhere near where I want to be. As I've written before, I've become an increasingly frequent customer of Uber, as it's the safest, most comfortable and reliable transport option I've found here. The Uber X cars are no more expensive than taxis and never try to rip you off.
GE.[/QUOTE]I saw this and is it a rental car per say or a chauffeured car?
PC out.
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[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1642759]I saw this and is it a rental car per say or a chauffeured car?
PC out.[/QUOTE]Private taxi, i.e. one that is not licenced by the gov't. Google it. It's a big deal in many cities around the world. You can download the app to your mobile.
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In my experience, private taxis are the best way to get into a trouble especially in Italy, Eastern European countries. Just simply stay clear out of it.
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1642765]Private taxi, i.e. one that is not licenced by the gov't. Google it. It's a big deal in many cities around the world. You can download the app to your mobile.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mbsl65;1642767]In my experience, private taxis are the best way to get into a trouble especially in Italy, Eastern European countries. Just simply stay clear out of it.[/QUOTE]You'll certainly want to avoid uber then. To avoid the trouble. Believing is seeing.
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[QUOTE=Mbsl65;1642767]In my experience, private taxis are the best way to get into a trouble especially in Italy, Eastern European countries. Just simply stay clear out of it.[/QUOTE]If GE says its ok I would think its ok. Plus its a fairly large company with Intl exposure so I'm kinda thinking its all good. I'm going to try it from airport to condo.
Pc out.
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DIA gals in this Manila, Makati area
What should I be paying them or should these be freebies? In the 20 yrs of mongering, we all know that there is no free lunch or pussy in the whole world.
Some I try for LT, some I will just pull a Skogis. LOL.
PC out.
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[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1642776]If GE says its ok I would think its ok. Plus its a fairly large company with Intl exposure so I'm kinda thinking its all good. I'm going to try it from airport to condo.
Pc out.[/QUOTE]Just a word of caution PC, I've not had much luck with Uber from the airport, as the cars seem to congregate more in the business districts such as Makati and Ortigas, where I never have problems getting one. My standard transport mode from the airport is one of the white coupon taxis, which operate on a fixed rate, non-metered system. The amount depends on the distance traveled by zone. I travel from the airport to the Fairmont which, according to the taxi service is Makati 1. The fare is Php330, which is about 100 pesos more than a yellow metered taxi would be. The difference is that I don't have to wait for a taxi, don't have to worry about a driver giving me a story about his meter, or deciding to take a creative route. I always have the drivers take the skyway, which adds another Php20 to the cost.
GE.
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How Much?
[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1642833]What should I be paying them or should these be freebies? In the 20 yrs of mongering, we all know that there is no free lunch or pussy in the whole world.
Some I try for LT, some I will just pull a Skogis. LOL.
PC out.[/QUOTE]Boy,
Have you just reopened Pandora's Box! This is a major bone of contention between those who champion importing their own cultural and economic values and those who believe we should accept the realities of this specific environment. The former drive up prices and raise expectations. The latter attempt to keep things reasonable.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1642855]Just a word of caution PC, I've not had much luck with Uber from the airport, as the cars seem to congregate more in the business districts such as Makati and Ortigas, where I never have problems getting one. My standard transport mode from the airport is one of the white coupon taxis, which operate on a fixed rate, non-metered system. The amount depends on the distance traveled by zone. I travel from the airport to the Fairmont which, according to the taxi service is Makati 1. The fare is Php330, which is about 100 pesos more than a yellow metered taxi would be. The difference is that I don't have to wait for a taxi, don't have to worry about a driver giving me a story about his meter, or deciding to take a creative route. I always have the drivers take the skyway, which adds another Php20 to the cost.
GE.[/QUOTE]GE I'm not sure about Manila but in most cities Uber drivers are specifically told they may not pick up at airports but may drop off without problem. Certainly I've never managed to get one from NAIA. Others may have different experience.
AV.
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[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1642833]What should I be paying them or should these be freebies? In the 20 yrs of mongering, we all know that there is no free lunch or pussy in the whole world.
Some I try for LT, some I will just pull a Skogis. LOL.
PC out.[/QUOTE]Correct, its never truly free but its very possible to have an instant GF who will practically move in & bang on demand in exchange for meals / gifts / chance of marriage. Alternatively you can pump & dump in which case P1 k. P2 k is fair & reasonable fir a non pro on a per visit basis. The cheap charoies who try to con the women into providing sex for absolutely nothing at all times I will let you make up your own mind about. I believe in karma & its good business to have a rep as a generous payer. Up to you.
AV.
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Arriving this Friday by KLM from Amsterdam I thought I was home free. All the time KLM have changed their arrivals into the Naia T3. Well, around 7:50 pm (a bit delayed arrival) I was first in line out from the aircraft. As usual none of the conveyr belts in T3 was working. I don't know why they have the walkways as I so far haven't seen they worked one single time. Well one belt was working, hehe. Anyway, my bag popps out as the second one. Priority taggs works sometimes.
I try to be a economical figure and I bring my bag and myself up to the departure level to take a metered taxi. Fuck what a long line of people. I turn I go back. Of course in Naia it is no escaletor going down so I do the stairwalk.
I give in and a lady is calling me: "you want taxi". I say yes and I go Makati. She tells me it is 1750 piso bcs it is nighttime. I don't want to start the discussion as it is realy busy. I just want to go to my hotel and start the sessions.
The taxidriver is a nice guy and he, from the skyway, takes the 3 exit to Makati. We make a swift stop in line of Holiday Inn hotel. I grab my bags and walk to the Ascott (much faster).
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[QUOTE=Amavida;1642934]Correct, its never truly free but its very possible to have an instant GF who will practically move in & bang on demand in exchange for meals / gifts / chance of marriage. Alternatively you can pump & dump in which case P1 k. P2 k is fair & reasonable fir a non pro on a per visit basis. The cheap charoies who try to con the women into providing sex for absolutely nothing at all times I will let you make up your own mind about. I believe in karma & its good business to have a rep as a generous payer. Up to you.
AV.[/QUOTE]I totally agree that if she is willing I'm paying for her to leave not stay haha.
Anyway, I'm sure the couple of DIA girls will get food fun and frolic LOL and depending on hotness in and out of bed, any little sisters she can pull in, and level of sex she will get more sure.
I changed some Pesos here in HK and it was good 5000 p for 875 HKD, how did I do guys?
PC out.
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[QUOTE=Amavida;1642934]Correct, its never truly free but its very possible to have an instant GF who will practically move in & bang on demand in exchange for meals / gifts / chance of marriage. Alternatively you can pump & dump in which case P1 k. P2 k is fair & reasonable fir a non pro on a per visit basis. The cheap charlies who try to con the women into providing sex for absolutely nothing at all times I will let you make up your own mind about. I believe in karma & its good business to have a rep as a generous payer. Up to you.
AV.[/QUOTE]Although, I would add that the moving in is convenient in the sense she will also do your laundry (by hand,) keep house and cook, without ever being asked and even in fact if you don't want her to, but there come a lot of expectations with it as in you will soon be putting a ring on her finger. Be careful what you kind of get sideways-wrangled into with instant girlfriends. I would far prefer to put cash up front than try to extract myself from that shit. But yes.
AV's prices sound correct for Manila, I avoid that place so I wouldn't know. In the provinces it's half that, I. E. 500 to 1 k for a non pro on a per-visit basis. I'm pretty firm about 500, that's what the locals pay and I don't pay double for groceries or rent so I don't see why I should do it for pussy.
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[QUOTE=RollAides;1643035]Although, I would add that the moving in is convenient in the sense she will also do your laundry (by hand,) keep house and cook, without ever being asked and even in fact if you don't want her to, but there come a lot of expectations with it as in you will soon be putting a ring on her finger. Be careful what you kind of get sideways-wrangled into with instant girlfriends. I would far prefer to put cash up front than try to extract myself from that shit. But yes.
AV's prices sound correct for Manila, I avoid that place so I wouldn't know. In the provinces it's half that, I. E. 500 to 1 k for a non pro on a per-visit basis. I'm pretty firm about 500, that's what the locals pay and I don't pay double for groceries or rent so I don't see why I should do it for pussy.[/QUOTE]I certainly won't ruin the market for anyone here no worries there. LOL.
I like good pussy and affordable as the next guy and HK and Macau so expensive that its 60% off in Manila or more even in the country. Gosh 500 p is like $12. I'm all in.
PC out.
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[QUOTE=Amavida;1642933]GE I'm not sure about Manila but in most cities Uber drivers are specifically told they may not pick up at airports but may drop off without problem. Certainly I've never managed to get one from NAIA. Others may have different experience.
AV.[/QUOTE]I have gotten Uber twice at the airport. The drivers didn't seem at all concerned about picking me up, but on most ocassions there just aren't any cars in the vicinity. Of course it's never an issue finding someone in Makati to take you to the airport.
Skogis, I agree with everything you said about T3. It's a slum, and remember it's the newest terminal. The whole airport is pretty much of a disaster zone. I noticed that about two weeks ago, as I was leaving Manila, that the roof was leaking.
GE.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1642724]Though I've been an avid user of mass transit in other countries in which I've lived, I never use it (aside from taxis) here. The jeeps are uncomfortable, hot, slow and, in my view not all that safe. The MRT is too crowded, inefficient and unreliable, and it often goes nowhere near where I want to be. As I've written before, I've become an increasingly frequent customer of Uber, as it's the safest, most comfortable and reliable transport option I've found here. The Uber X cars are no more expensive than taxis and never try to rip you off.
GE.[/QUOTE]I've tried using Uber a couple of times in Manila, from the airport, but it seems that Uber drivers are always like 25-30 minutes away. Maybe I'm just arriving at bad times? I'm sure Uber will catch on, and many more drivers will be available over time, but I haven't had much luck so far.
RG.
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[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1642833]What should I be paying them or should these be freebies? In the 20 yrs of mongering, we all know that there is no free lunch or pussy in the whole world.
Some I try for LT, some I will just pull a Skogis. LOL.
PC out.[/QUOTE]First of all do not think about what you should pay. Meet them, have fun with them and see. Grade the service on a scale and pay accordingly. Some are really sweet and I would hate to short change them. Some are mechanical and I would pay 1000 pesos. Some are mercenary and demand money. For these girls it is better to negotiate and agree on a amount before you touch them. If agreed pay the agreed amount and if not come to an agreement just give her taxi money and let her go.
Some members may disagree with me saying never negotiate the fee. But you will save yourself lot of headache if not agreed before the act with some girls. I remember with one girl whose pussy had a smell and I told her I am not in the mood and tried to get rid of her. She did demand 1500 pesos. Ultimately agreed to pay her 1000 pesos. I do not want any drama calling the security etc. You win some and you loose some.
In general most of the DIA girls I have been with are nice and some are absolute GFE and in rare cases few did not want to accept money. However I have put money in their purse in spite of their protest saying it is for her to buy something as a gift from me.
My advice is be generous and treat them nice.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1642977]As usual none of the conveyr belts in T3 was working. I don't know why they have the walkways as I so far haven't seen they worked one single time. Well one belt was working, hehe. Anyway, my bag pops out as the second one. Priority taggs works sometimes.
I try to be a economical figure and I bring my bag and myself up to the departure level to take a metered taxi. Fuck what a long line of people. I turn I go back. Of course in Naia it is no escaletor going down so I do the stairwalk.
I give in and a lady is calling me: "you want taxi". I say yes and I go Makati. She tells me it is 1750 piso because it is nighttime. I don't want to start the discussion as it is realy busy. I just want to go to my hotel and start the sessions.
The taxi driver is a nice guy and he, from the skyway, takes the 3 exit to Makati. We make a swift stop in line of Holiday Inn hotel. I grab my bags and walk to the Ascott (much faster).[/QUOTE]T3 is far far better than T1, I use it a lot and fly both domestically and internationally monthly.
Last week none of the walkway's were working and the Emirates check girl was moaning about them and T3 in general but admitted she preferred T3 to T1. Even the cabin crew said the same but sad also they were ashamed of both terminals.
There is an elevator which I use at times but depending on the time can busy and it is slow but useful if you have lots of bags (and time).
Now the taxi scams. Yes the white ones (fixed fare Makati is PHP 440 to Burgos area) also are scammers as some hang in the queue and you think they are fixed fare but are not. I was asked as you were noted the fare as PHP 440 and was immediately asked to go to the front of the queue LOL There I complained and the guy said "say it to the policeman on duty" - so I did and pointed out the people.
Tourism is supposed be targeted as a key revenue source but the persistent scams on tourists will not help the image nor will T1 etc being voted in the world's worst airports continually (unlikely to stop IMHO for many years due to the slowness and incompetence of those in charge) - for comparison, Emirates T3 was constructed in about 24 months and is really very nice, very efficient, clean and the air cons work LOL.
And while T3 is not great it is miles better than T1 and is cooler than T1 but I don't think the air cons are working properly. But in the Philippines we must be thankful for small mercies.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1643131]I have gotten Uber twice at the airport. The drivers didn't seem at all concerned about picking me up, but on most ocassions there just aren't any cars in the vicinity. Of course it's never an issue finding someone in Makati to take you to the airport.
Skogis, I agree with everything you said about T3. It's a slum, and remember it's the newest terminal. The whole airport is pretty much of a disaster zone. I noticed that about two weeks ago, as I was leaving Manila, that the roof was leaking.
GE.[/QUOTE]I had to walk through T3 with a broken foot a few weeks ago. No passenger assistance available and of course the people movers inside weren't working. When I got outside there had to have been 100 people in line for yellow taxis, with no taxis in line. I did an about face, hobbled over to the white coupon taxis and paid 540 to get to where I was going. Yes, twice the price, but I'd still be in line waiting for a yellow taxi as I write this. Is that the best they can do with their newest and most modern terminal? No passenger assistance and no people movers? The problem is that they won't pay for services or repairs, but then again, they never paid for the terminal either.
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[QUOTE=Slippery;1643271]No passenger assistance available and of course the people movers inside weren't working. When I got outside there had to have been 100 people in line for yellow taxis, with no taxis in line. ? No passenger assistance and no people movers? The problem is that they won't pay for services or repairs, but then again, they never paid for the terminal either.[/QUOTE]I can't remember a time when those people movers ever worked. I recall arriving once and due to some strange reason, instead of being allowed to go down the steps to immigration, they made us go left, then right, then right then right again,. Ie made us walk three quarters of the way around the teminal and could then go down the steps to immigration. With no people movers, and the smell of pussy in the air, that was one long walk.
Then again arriving in Heathrow London last week, there was a sign on exiting the plane that said " Nearest toilets, 20 minutes walk ".
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[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1643175]T3 is far far better than T1, I use it a lot and fly both domestically and internationally monthly.
Last week none of the walkway's were working and the Emirates check girl was moaning about them and T3 in general but admitted she preferred T3 to T1. Even the cabin crew said the same but sad also they were ashamed of both terminals.
There is an elevator which I use at times but depending on the time can busy and it is slow but useful if you have lots of bags (and time).[/QUOTE]Regarding the elevator you talk about it had some big signs saying "out of order"(ofcourse). But one of these days I hope meeting a T3 where most of the stuff and staff are working. It is actually just humoristic.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1643347] But one of these days I hope meeting a T3 where most of the stuff and staff are working.[/QUOTE]By then you'll old, decrepit and in your own "people mover", namely a wheel chair, LOL.
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Taxis
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1642765]Private taxi, i.e. one that is not licenced by the gov't. Google it. It's a big deal in many cities around the world. You can download the app to your mobile.[/QUOTE]I didn't know they had Uber in Manila, interesting but in any event to cut down on taxi wait times to 0. I just go up the stairs to the departure drive and pick up a city cab dropping people off. No line and they don't have to wait either.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1643347]Regarding the elevator you talk about it had some big signs saying "out of order"(ofcourse). But one of these days I hope meeting a T3 where most of the stuff and staff are working. It is actually just humoristic.[/QUOTE]That is a new one on me but I have had it that the queue for the lifts stretched back to nearly the start of the escalator.
It is still better than T1 which I why I keep my sanity when I use that terminal and I use it a lot.
For it is a breathe of fresh air compared with T1 so be thankful for small mercies I say.
And yes we will be old and senile before any terminal in Manila runs like BKK, HK, Singapore etc.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;1643158]First of all do not think about what you should pay. Meet them, have fun with them and see. Grade the service on a scale and pay accordingly. Some are really sweet and I would hate to short change them. Some are mechanical and I would pay 1000 pesos. Some are mercenary and demand money. For these girls it is better to negotiate and agree on a amount before you touch them. If agreed pay the agreed amount and if not come to an agreement just give her taxi money and let her go.
Some members may disagree with me saying never negotiate the fee. But you will save yourself lot of headache if not agreed before the act with some girls. I remember with one girl whose pussy had a smell and I told her I am not in the mood and tried to get rid of her. She did demand 1500 pesos. Ultimately agreed to pay her 1000 pesos. I do not want any drama calling the security etc. You win some and you loose some.
In general most of the DIA girls I have been with are nice and some are absolute GFE and in rare cases few did not want to accept money. However I have put money in their purse in spite of their protest saying it is for her to buy something as a gift from me.
My advice is be generous and treat them nice.[/QUOTE]$22 usd is small bucks to get rid of an irate women in any country LOL.
PC out.
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[QUOTE=Redcurry;1643371]I didn't know they had Uber in Manila, interesting but in any event to cut down on taxi wait times to 0. I just go up the stairs to the departure drive and pick up a city cab dropping people off. No line and they don't have to wait either.[/QUOTE]'No line... "
This is not always true, and they seem to pop up at the worst times. I was in T3 to catch an AirAsia flight. Surprise! It's at T4. (The same flight two months earlier was at T3. No signs by AirAsia telling passengers to go to T4; a helpful passenger info agent called AirAsia and found out where the flight was boarding.) Went outside to the departure's taxi queue and there had to be 40 people waiting - it was an early afternoon flight. I was in a rush so I walked away from the queue to where taxi passengers were exiting the cabs, made eye contact with a driver who motioned for me to get in, and away we went. I dislike jumping the queue but in this case I was left no alternative.
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FilipinoCupid
Someone recently noted on this board how much success they had with Filipinocupid. Since I plan to visit the Philippines in the near future, I decided to join for a month. So far my experience on this site has been dismal. Virtually every attractive girl, with the exception of one, has ultimately admitted to me that she is living in Ghana with the same cock and bull story about someone in family died, etc. Etc. And she had to move. Total nonsense.
The only other women contacting me are old ladies and young fatties. I have been talking to one quite attractive girl who says she is not from Ghana, and lives in a far southern Phil province and city, but is angling for me to buy her a ticket to meet me in Hong Kong before I come to MNL. To say I am suspicious is an understatement. The city she claims to be from is the far southern city starting with the letter 'Z' where all the Muslims live. She seems to know about the problems there for Christians so perhaps she is telling me the truth.
The site even has a disclaimer about woman from Ghana contacting interested suitors but that has not deterred these women, if they even are women.
So perhaps can someone on board can explain how to work around this issue? Has anyone had success with this website?
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1643743]I was in T3 to catch an AirAsia flight. Surprise! It's at T4. The same flight two months earlier was at T3.[/QUOTE]Sure about that? AA was at T3? Actually that would be the surprise to me. For an AA flight I'd go to T4 without thinking.
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[QUOTE=Tomasb;1645046]Someone recently noted on this board how much success they had with Filipinocupid. Since I plan to visit the Philippines in the near future, I decided to join for a month. So far my experience on this site has been dismal. Virtually every attractive girl, with the exception of one, has ultimately admitted to me that she is living in Ghana with the same cock and bull story about someone in family died, etc. Etc. And she had to move. Total nonsense.
The only other women contacting me are old ladies and young fatties. I have been talking to one quite attractive girl who says she is not from Ghana, and lives in a far southern Phil province and city, but is angling for me to buy her a ticket to meet me in Hong Kong before I come to MNL. To say I am suspicious is an understatement. The city she claims to be from is the far southern city starting with the letter 'Z' where all the Muslims live. She seems to know about the problems there for Christians so perhaps she is telling me the truth.
The site even has a disclaimer about woman from Ghana contacting interested suitors but that has not deterred these women, if they even are women.
So perhaps can someone on board can explain how to work around this issue? Has anyone had success with this website?[/QUOTE]There are low cost flights between Zamboanga (which incidentally has a majority Christian population) and Manila. You could always buy her a ticket, charged to a credit card, for her to join you in Manila. If the ticket is charged to a card, she can't turn it into cash.
GE.
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[QUOTE=Tomasb;1645046]Someone recently noted on this board how much success they had with Filipinocupid. Since I plan to visit the Philippines in the near future, I decided to join for a month. So far my experience on this site has been dismal. Virtually every attractive girl, with the exception of one, has ultimately admitted to me that she is living in Ghana with the same cock and bull story about someone in family died, etc. Etc. And she had to move. Total nonsense.
The only other women contacting me are old ladies and young fatties. I have been talking to one quite attractive girl who says she is not from Ghana, and lives in a far southern Phil province and city, but is angling for me to buy her a ticket to meet me in Hong Kong before I come to MNL. To say I am suspicious is an understatement. The city she claims to be from is the far southern city starting with the letter 'Z' where all the Muslims live. She seems to know about the problems there for Christians so perhaps she is telling me the truth.
The site even has a disclaimer about woman from Ghana contacting interested suitors but that has not deterred these women, if they even are women.
So perhaps can someone on board can explain how to work around this issue? Has anyone had success with this website?[/QUOTE]This is why I waste zero time on 'Dating Sites' and any site in which first contact does not include seeing the girl 'live' in cam.
Too much bullshit to sift through with all the pretenders and gays. A pretty pinay is never afraid to show her face in cam. The cam sites are the best. What you see is what you get.
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Yes, I thought of that option. Apparently, the flight cost is not very expensive. She mentioned that there are some bad Muslim dudes there but did not know Catholics are in the majority. Overall from her description, it sounds like a very poor place.
She seems very concerned I would meet someone in HKG BEFORE I arrived in Manila.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1645052]There are low cost flights between Zamboanga (which incidentally has a majority Christian population) and Manila. You could always buy her a ticket, charged to a credit card, for her to join you in Manila. If the ticket is charged to a card, she can't turn it into cash.
GE.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Tomasb;1645056]Yes, I thought of that option. Apparently, the flight cost is not very expensive. She mentioned that there are some bad Muslim dudes there but did not know Catholics are in the majority. Overall from her description, it sounds like a very poor place.
She seems very concerned I would meet someone in HKG BEFORE I arrived in Manila.[/QUOTE]I just responded to your PM. Don't even think about going to Zamboanga. It can be a dangerous place for foreigners and you would have no way of protecting yourself if you don't know people there. Besides, it's a fairly ugly city with not much to do.
GE.
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[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1643175]T3 is far far better than T1, I use it a lot and fly both domestically and internationally monthly.
Last week none of the walkway's were working and the Emirates check girl was moaning about them and T3 in general but admitted she preferred T3 to T1. Even the cabin crew said the same but sad also they were ashamed of both terminals.
There is an elevator which I use at times but depending on the time can busy and it is slow but useful if you have lots of bags (and time).
Now the taxi scams. Yes the white ones (fixed fare Makati is PHP 440 to Burgos area) also are scammers as some hang in the queue and you think they are fixed fare but are not. I was asked as you were noted the fare as PHP 440 and was immediately asked to go to the front of the queue LOL There I complained and the guy said "say it to the policeman on duty" - so I did and pointed out the people.
Tourism is supposed be targeted as a key revenue source but the persistent scams on tourists will not help the image nor will T1 etc being voted in the world's worst airports continually (unlikely to stop IMHO for many years due to the slowness and incompetence of those in charge) - for comparison, Emirates T3 was constructed in about 24 months and is really very nice, very efficient, clean and the air cons work LOL.
And while T3 is not great it is miles better than T1 and is cooler than T1 but I don't think the air cons are working properly. But in the Philippines we must be thankful for small mercies.[/QUOTE]I'm flying in on ANA, what terminal that that usually arrive in? Will customs drag on for hours or is it quick. I have a DIA cutie that's been verified of FB that will come pick me up at airport, buy me a SIM card and go have Japanese food after arrival set up already. Should I be wary of anything else that may happen with this young lady? LOL.
PC out.
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[QUOTE=Pantot;1645055]This is why I waste zero time on 'Dating Sites' and any site in which first contact does not include seeing the girl 'live' in cam.
Too much bullshit to sift through with all the pretenders and gays. A pretty pinay is never afraid to show her face in cam. The cam sites are the best. What you see is what you get.[/QUOTE]Which are the cam sites you mentioned? Seems like DIA gals are on the up and up so far. I think referencing them on their FB page also is re assuring too or seems like it. But you never know till you know ehh.
PC out.
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[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1645243]I'm flying in on ANA, what terminal that that usually arrive in? Will customs drag on for hours or is it quick. I have a DIA cutie that's been verified of FB that will come pick me up at airport, buy me a SIM card and go have Japanese food after arrival set up already. Should I be wary of anything else that may happen with this young lady? LOL.
PC out.[/QUOTE]Ana uses T3. Customs depends on the time you arrive. If early morning less hassle then later afternoon etc. Won't take hours unlike some airports I have been through but be patient is my advice (and arrive say between 5-9 am).
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[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1645243]I'm flying in on ANA, what terminal that that usually arrive in? Will customs drag on for hours or is it quick. I have a DIA cutie that's been verified of FB that will come pick me up at airport, buy me a SIM card and go have Japanese food after arrival set up already. Should I be wary of anything else that may happen with this young lady? LOL.
PC out.[/QUOTE]I flew ANA in October and it was terminal 3. Immigration and customs was pretty quick but horrendous line for yellow metered taxi.
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Virgintrip to the "province".
Having had one beauty residing with me at my Makati hotel the last couples of days she finaly decided to leave. She had to go down to Kalibo to catch up with some family biz. I did the twist and escorted her to the airport, kissed her off goodbye infront of T3 departure area and taxied back to Makati. Having had 5 days without any additional pickups beside the girl "living" with me is a hole new situation to me and I have felt weird during this hole period of time. But as she is one of the prettiest girl I have ever met (or seen for that matter) I thought it was worthwhile taking a break from normal datingroutines for a while.
Now I was off the hook and ready for new adventures so I texted in a FB contact residing in the Makati area. We agreed on her ETA set to be 3 pm. She showed up on time and she revieled a lot of beauty while getting "nekkid". I did never see her c2 c but having browsed through some of her many hundreds FB pics. She stood forward as even better than most of those pics. Lucky me. A 25 yo callcentergirl (so she claimed and as usual I did not check further into that one) who origined from Quezon area (that I would found out was true, more of that later).
We did session a couple of times and we connected very well. She was all good fun and this 40 kg spinner had a good engine. I tried to CIM her but she retracted so I performed a COP (cum on pillow) instead. We rested in my apts livingroom and watched some FamilyGuy episodes. I saw to my great disapointment my evening girl was cancelling on me as I didn't respond to her calls / texts the last couple of days (due to Kalibo girl). Well can not realy blame her.
Suddenly callcentergirl texted a bit and ask me to join her to meet her family in Quezon. Instinctively I tried to decline her proposal but my brain did not connect very well so I nodded and said "yes, lets do that". She let me in on her family (size, biz, attitude, living conditions etc etc), I showered and off we went.
The taxi ride was eventless untill the driver suddenly found out he was taking a shortcut from the SM North Edsa mall. It was dark by now and Sunday "trappic" was bad so I did not mind it one bit so far. We were zik zakking in some small streets and suddenly we entered a fairly new road all empty from traffic (almost). She told me we were close now. We took off from this strangly wide and empty road and into the dark we drove. I became a bit sceptic at first but since I picked the driver and he and my girl did hardly communicate I had hard time believing any set up was going to happen. We soon found streetlights again and a bit down this lightned street tollbooths showed up every 200 mts. It was 3 of them amd in each one sat a security guard drinking beer and was claiming some pisos from the driver. Sometimes things are strange and the girl had no idea what was the purpose of this.
We finaly reached her families condo. It was crowded with people. My girl was introducing me to what must have been atleast 20 people. I give them that the condo was big and had 3 floors. She had many sisters and brothers but the rest of the people showed to be the neighbours having heard rumors that a new guy was "in town".
Hospitality, wow, they offered me soft drinks and some fried fish I declined in most polite ways. For the small ones I did bring some chocolate bars which was highly appreciated. The taxidriver was all gone now so I was all by myself. But in my many years of mongering in designated Hi so areas around the globe I thought now was time to do some exploring.
It took maby around 15 minutes for the mother to offer me to spend the night with my new girl. She most correctly did not live there fulltime but they could move some people around so me and her could have all the privacy we wanted. My girl was looking at me as I should accept the offer and so I did. My brain was allready working on plans on how to get away from all this (faking some illness or something like that). Nothing bad about the house or family though but the house was not to my usual standards and not a place I wanted to stay more than I had to (and to those phil protective BM's inside here this is not meant as critisism or talking down on "your" country or this family. It is just a fact. And yes I know standards is not what I am used to). I am sure the house was more than good enough according to this areas standards. Atleast the family was nice as hell.
It showed the family did run a few canteens around the area and to all my luck they decided to invite me to one (here I saw my extraction point). We were taking a bus from their house to one of their Novalieches based canteens. I happened to recognize a church on our way from which I picked up a girl a few years back. So now I atleast got my bearings straight. In the bus everyone was watching me and all sorts of weird questions popped out: "have you been on a bus before", "do you want to see pics of my family (from an unknown person sitting in the seat across the aile from me)", "do you pray" and so on. And again this is not critisism it was only weird and if I dare to say so without beeing disrespectful, it was funny. My girl obviously the one in the family beeing used to the more bustling modern citylife was embarassed and told the people around me to shut up (not on my request just so you know).
At the canteen they provided all sorts of small dishes (their treat). There where ladyboys and lesbians in all variation imaginable working for the family. They brought in a few cases of Red Horse for anyone to drink and so we did. I hate Red Horse but as I know phil people live it I joined in and kept this as my little secret. I sang "sweet child of mine (Guns and'Roses)" and everyone was laughing. Not so many spoke any english but my girl was doing a heck of a job translating as her english was outstanding (to me as a non native englishspeaker that is, I know I have pissed someone off bcs of my maby / maybe but here in this canteen it was bigger trouble going on).
It was probably wrong but at one point I asked to be allowed to pay for all this but I was hammered down as in this was their treat to their daughters new BF. It took a while for my mind to connect again beeing aware of they actually meant me. My girl was looking at me with hope in her eyes. WTF. Due to her rather great fuckingskills I would presume she had met some blokes prior to me but maby she never did bring someone back. I will never get an answer to this question. No it was time to escape.
Now everyone incl myself was drunk and before I managed to escape the mother offered me my girls 20 yo virgin sister. She was pretty and sexy so from a monger perspective not an bad idea. I politely declined. The mother did not give up and offered me an even younger sister. I thought this was weird first time but now she actually did offer me a 13 yo girl. I told them I could be arrested for doing so and my GF was now more than embaressed and asked if I wanted to go. That one came easy and I said it probably was for the best. I believe there is a big gap from my girl to her family. This was the crasiest shit I ever encounter in all my lifes stages. Me and my girl made up a cover story she could tell her parents. My girls father did not seem so happy me beeing there but this was explained to me as him beeing a shy and modest guy. We shook hands thats all.
My GF got me an taxi and back to Ascott I went. I think that will be my first and last experience like this but even so a fun and weird night.
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[QUOTE=Toronto;1645371]I flew ANA in October and it was terminal 3. Immigration and customs was pretty quick but horrendous line for yellow metered taxi.[/QUOTE]Late arrival so maybe out of immigration by 10 pm and hopefully she is outside waiting with bells on LOL.
PC out.
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What a ride
Man, Bro Skogis, what a ride! Indeed crazy! A few years ago I had a similar thing with an Indonesian girl in Padang.
Me back in town next week, free for some beers?
Greetings from Tokyo! (PM better, phone doesn't work here).
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1645525]Now everyone incl myself was drunk and before I managed to escape the mother offered me my girls 20 yo virgin sister. She was pretty and sexy so from a monger perspective not an bad idea. I politely declined. The mother did not give up and offered me an even younger sister. I thought this was weird first time but now she actually did offer me a 13 yo girl. I told them I could be arrested for doing so and my GF was now more than embaressed and asked if I wanted to go. That one came easy and I said it probably was for the best. I believe there is a big gap from my girl to her family. This was the crasiest shit I ever encounter in all my lifes stages. Me and my girl made up a cover story she could tell her parents..[/QUOTE]Wow, what's with these people? Maybe they were trying to set you up for blackmail? I can't imagine anything lower than a mother offering up her own tender-age daughter!
RG.
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[QUOTE=Ekspat;1645624]Man, Bro Skogis, what a ride! Indeed crazy! A few years ago I had a similar thing with an Indonesian girl in Padang.
Me back in town next week, free for some beers?
Greetings from Tokyo! (PM better, phone doesn't work here).[/QUOTE]No more field trips for me. It was all good fun but very weird. I go back tonight and think i have to stay home a few weeks with x mas coming up soon and a little daughter to nurse. My GF thinks I spend to little time back home, hehe.
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G-Point always reliable
I stayed in Ermita for 3 weeks whilst on a job. Gawd it is ever worse than ever, but at least G-Point is the same as always, even lots of the same hostesses as 5 years ago. I hate wasting time on alternatives like the hookup sites, and also can't deal with LAC crowds, so G-Point is just my speed and they also draw some decent pints and the bar food isn't bad at all. I like to be able to have a sort-of conversation before the proposition. Maybe it's possible at LAC but at an elevated decibel level. Anyways, I nailed 4 or 5 different cougar-types from there. All good GFEs and stress-free. One called Kate was the absolute hottest shag I've ever had and nice to sleep with. Maria of the giant rack was too persistent at first and then when I finally couldn't restrain my curiousity (real or not?) she had forgotten her ID so we had to use a Sogo. But they are definitely real and I got an amazing tit-job before the main event. There was Gina, a tad care-worn but good company and hot as hell. She was the only one who balked a bit at 1000 for ST. Gigi is tall and nice-looking, always comes in early and sits by the door with Kate, nice but not really so enthusiatic in bed. Also found a nice little lady out of Robinsons. She cleaned my apartment and gave a good massage before ridding me of surplus semen. But this is the last time I stay in Ermita. Too much filth in the streets and the noise! Next time it will be Makati.
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[QUOTE=Tomasb;1645056]She seems very concerned I would meet someone in HKG BEFORE I arrived in Manila.[/QUOTE]Tomas, clean out your inbox.
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[QUOTE=Tomasb;1645056]Yes, I thought of that option. Apparently, the flight cost is not very expensive. She mentioned that there are some bad Muslim dudes there but did not know Catholics are in the majority. Overall from her description, it sounds like a very poor place.
She seems very concerned I would meet someone in HKG BEFORE I arrived in Manila.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you have some experienced people PMing you so I am sure you will sort it out. Don't fly anybody in, Manila in loaded with women who will gladly take a few pesos from you. I have never used that particular dating site, but I use other ones almost exclusively now to have women come meet me at my hotel. Weed out the one photo wonders, the brand new profiles, and get the girls on cam ASAP. Bring up the subject of sex and money quickly. Don't be shy to tell them exactly what you want them to do in bed. Many will drop off, but those are the ones you want to get rid of anyway. Also, just do whatever Westy is telling you via PM, his man goo has been spread far and wide in the city.
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Inbox open now.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1646230]Tomas, clean out your inbox.[/QUOTE]
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He has been very helpful. Not going to fly anyone into MNL. Appears there are plenty of opps available.
[QUOTE=Ceegee;1646238]Sounds like you have some experienced people PMing you so I am sure you will sort it out. Don't fly anybody in, Manila in loaded with women who will gladly take a few pesos from you. I have never used that particular dating site, but I use other ones almost exclusively now to have women come meet me at my hotel. Weed out the one photo wonders, the brand new profiles, and get the girls on cam ASAP. Bring up the subject of sex and money quickly. Don't be shy to tell them exactly what you want them to do in bed. Many will drop off, but those are the ones you want to get rid of anyway. Also, just do whatever Westy is telling you via PM, his man goo has been spread far and wide in the city.[/QUOTE]
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Filipino Cupid
Tomas:
Most girls or women on FC are pretty well aware of what is going on. The key is to have patience. The thing is, there are a lot of guys out there. You have to cultivate your resource. The ones that are too pretty (photos looking like from a Vogue magazine) are more than likely to be scammers. Here are some pointers:
1. FC is not free. You have to pay to communicate with someone. A lot of women here are a little bit older and you tend to find them a little wiser.
2. If it is too good to be true, then that is a big red flag.
3. If the gal is very pretty, then a lot of guys are going to hit on her. Think about that blue eyed, blonde, Scandinavian hitting on her. Try, but don't waste your time on them. She will just string you along.
4. If you are not traveling to a place where you can meet her, then don't send tickets for them to come see you in Manila. Never going to happen. Plus logistics to this type of operation is always complicated.
5. Girls meeting you in Hong Kong is completely out of the question, unless that person has traveled extensively. The Phillipines immigration will not let them (the girls) board a plane.
6. Girl will not be allowed to board planes unless they have lots of money, and / or someone is sponsoring them with documentation.
7. If you are ugly (like me), then girls come to you because, you are a safe option.
8. They will ask you if have been to Phillipines. Tell them NO.
9. Ghana. Why Ghana? Some must think Ghana is where the nice girls come from. Are we that stupid? Anyway, Instant Block.
10. If the first message contains more than 4 lines. Contains email addresses etc. This is a scammer. Instant Block!
11. If someone is dead in the family. This will lead to asking for money. Block.
12. If, when you ask, "How are you?" And she answers, "not good", or something in that nature, Block!
13. Most women in Manila are pretty wised up now, to all the things that go on in FC. If you find a girl outside of Manila, you could get lucky with "pretty and nice". But you should be willing to travel.
14. Patience is the key. I have found good ones. But you got to have a conversation, become friends, before you get to the next step.
15. The letter Z, stand for Zamboanga. It is in Mindanao. Not all are Muslims. And you can find some pretty girls there. But be willing to go there to the South. If you stand out in the crowd to be mugged, then not an option for you.
Hope this helps.
CT
[QUOTE=Tomasb;1645046]Someone recently noted on this board how much success they had with Filipinocupid. Since I plan to visit the Philippines in the near future, I decided to join for a month. So far my experience on this site has been dismal. Virtually every attractive girl, with the exception of one, has ultimately admitted to me that she is living in Ghana with the same cock and bull story about someone in family died, etc. Etc. And she had to move. Total nonsense.
The only other women contacting me are old ladies and young fatties. I have been talking to one quite attractive girl who says she is not from Ghana, and lives in a far southern Phil province and city, but is angling for me to buy her a ticket to meet me in Hong Kong before I come to MNL. To say I am suspicious is an understatement. The city she claims to be from is the far southern city starting with the letter 'Z' where all the Muslims live. She seems to know about the problems there for Christians so perhaps she is telling me the truth.
The site even has a disclaimer about woman from Ghana contacting interested suitors but that has not deterred these women, if they even are women.
So perhaps can someone on board can explain how to work around this issue? Has anyone had success with this website?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Lenience;1645668]I stayed in Ermita for 3 weeks whilst on a job. Gawd it is ever worse than ever, but at least G-Point is the same as always, even lots of the same hostesses as 5 years ago. I hate wasting time on alternatives like the hookup sites, and also can't deal with LAC crowds, so G-Point is just my speed and they also draw some decent pints and the bar food isn't bad at all. I like to be able to have a sort-of conversation before the proposition. Maybe it's possible at LAC but at an elevated decibel level. Anyways, I nailed 4 or 5 different cougar-types from there. All good GFEs and stress-free. One called Kate was the absolute hottest shag I've ever had and nice to sleep with. Maria of the giant rack was too persistent at first and then when I finally couldn't restrain my curiousity (real or not?) she had forgotten her ID so we had to use a Sogo. But they are definitely real and I got an amazing tit-job before the main event. There was Gina, a tad care-worn but good company and hot as hell. She was the only one who balked a bit at 1000 for ST. Gigi is tall and nice-looking, always comes in early and sits by the door with Kate, nice but not really so enthusiatic in bed. Also found a nice little lady out of Robinsons. She cleaned my apartment and gave a good massage before ridding me of surplus semen. But this is the last time I stay in Ermita. Too much filth in the streets and the noise! Next time it will be Makati.[/QUOTE]Same girls, different day. Maybe I'll stop by sometime over the weekend.
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[QUOTE=Tomasb;1645046]Someone recently noted on this board how much success they had with Filipinocupid. SNIP
So perhaps can someone on board can explain how to work around this issue? Has anyone had success with this website?[/QUOTE]After having issues with DIA last year I started using FC and have had tremendous success. I use the filters to weed out a lot of the scammers who are not in the Phils. The scammers who are there tend to be from MNL and Mindanao (Zamboanga) and usually you can tell from their messages right away what their game is (they often give and / or ask for your email or personal contact info in their first message, which tends to be one long para). And despite mentioning that I'm only interested in meeting girls from a specific geographic region I still get interests and messages from girls well outside that area; plus the usual fatties and grannies. All, I repeat all, of them I simply delete and many of the obvious scammers I also block.
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[QUOTE=CoolTraveler;1646500]
8. They will ask you if have been to Phillipines. Tell them NO.
[/QUOTE]I'm curious as to your reasoning behind answering no?
As a fellow fisherman in the dating sites, I would always say yes, even if I had never been to the country / city in question, to try to establish that I know the local game / market rates, even if I don't.
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Filipino Cupid
Interesting comment in that many of the hot girls in this site appear to be from Zamboanga, which is about as far as you can go and still be in the Philippines.
Glad to hear you are having some success. For me, it seems like a joke site. Amazing how many of the hot girls end up saying they are of mixed parentage from Ghana. Who knew? LOL.
[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1646596]After having issues with DIA last year I started using FC and have had tremendous success. I use the filters to weed out a lot of the scammers who are not in the Phils. The scammers who are there tend to be from MNL and Mindanao (Zamboanga) and usually you can tell from their messages right away what their game is (they often give and / or ask for your email or personal contact info in their first message, which tends to be one long para). And despite mentioning that I'm only interested in meeting girls from a specific geographic region I still get interests and messages from girls well outside that area; plus the usual fatties and grannies. All, I repeat all, of them I simply delete and many of the obvious scammers I also block.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=CoolTraveler;1646500]Tomas:
Most girls or women on FC are pretty well aware of what is going on. The key is to have patience. The thing is, there are a lot of guys out there. You have to cultivate your resource. The ones that are too pretty (photos looking like from a Vogue magazine) are more than likely to be scammers. Here are some pointers:
[/QUOTE]Use tineye to check if those pictures are hers, as tineye can match 90% of fakes!!
[QUOTE]1. FC is not free. You have to pay to communicate with someone. A lot of women here are a little bit older and you tend to find them a little wiser.[/QUOTE]I thought it is free for women, correct me if I am wrong! If paid for women too, I doubt so many will even visit the site.
[QUOTE]2. If it is too good to be true, then that is a big red flag.[/QUOTE]No truer words.
[QUOTE]3. If the gal is very pretty, then a lot of guys are going to hit on her. Think about that blue eyed, blonde, Scandinavian hitting on her. Try, but don't waste your time on them. She will just string you along.[/QUOTE]If she hits on you, again, either she isn't true or she is a man!! Up your warning meter.
[QUOTE]5. Girls meeting you in Hong Kong is completely out of the question, unless that person has traveled extensively. The Phillipines immigration will not let them (the girls) board a plane.[/QUOTE]You will be surprised how many girls find it easier to go to HK than to SG.
[QUOTE]7. If you are ugly (like me), then girls come to you because, you are a safe option.[/QUOTE]LOL, same for me too. Though I don't regret the cuties that don't respond. I found cuter they are, the more they think their-shit-don't-stink!
[QUOTE]10. If the first message contains more than 4 lines. Contains email addresses etc. This is a scammer. Instant Block![/QUOTE]LOL.
[QUOTE]11. If someone is dead in the family. This will lead to asking for money. Block.[/QUOTE]LOL again!
Others, pretty much agreed!
Nice write up.
Must be a sticky!
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[QUOTE=CoolTraveler;1646500]Tomas:
Most girls or women on FC are pretty well aware of what is going on. The key is to have patience. The thing is, there are a lot of guys out there. You have to cultivate your resource. The ones that are too pretty (photos looking like from a Vogue magazine) are more than likely to be scammers. Here are some pointers:
1. FC is not free. You have to pay to communicate with someone. A lot of women here are a little bit older and you tend to find them a little wiser.
2. If it is too good to be true, then that is a big red flag.
3. If the gal is very pretty, then a lot of guys are going to hit on her. Think about that blue eyed, blonde, Scandinavian hitting on her. Try, but don't waste your time on them. She will just string you along.
4. If you are not traveling to a place where you can meet her, then don't send tickets for them to come see you in Manila. Never going to happen. Plus logistics to this type of operation is always complicated.
5. Girls meeting you in Hong Kong is completely out of the question, unless that person has traveled extensively. The Phillipines immigration will not let them (the girls) board a plane.
6. Girl will not be allowed to board planes unless they have lots of money, and / or someone is sponsoring them with documentation.
7. If you are ugly (like me), then girls come to you because, you are a safe option.
8. They will ask you if have been to Phillipines. Tell them NO.
9. Ghana. Why Ghana? Some must think Ghana is where the nice girls come from. Are we that stupid? Anyway, Instant Block.
10. If the first message contains more than 4 lines. Contains email addresses etc. This is a scammer. Instant Block!
11. If someone is dead in the family. This will lead to asking for money. Block.
12. If, when you ask, "How are you?" And she answers, "not good", or something in that nature, Block!
13. Most women in Manila are pretty wised up now, to all the things that go on in FC. If you find a girl outside of Manila, you could get lucky with "pretty and nice". But you should be willing to travel.
14. Patience is the key. I have found good ones. But you got to have a conversation, become friends, before you get to the next step.
15. The letter Z, stand for Zamboanga. It is in Mindanao. Not all are Muslims. And you can find some pretty girls there. But be willing to go there to the South. If you stand out in the crowd to be mugged, then not an option for you.
Hope this helps.
CT[/QUOTE]Some good pointers here CT. Even so a few of them up for discussion. Beeing a scandinavian your # 3 is spot on ofcourse, hehe.
# 4 I have flew in partygirls from Cebu to Manila. First time I was thinking like you so I flew down to Cebu to collect one girl myself (just arrived CEB, picked her up at the arrival hall and we checked in and flew back MNL). After this I have flown in partyfriends of her, no problem. They all show, don't even have to meet them at the airport and I only reimburse the ticket cost when they arrive (requires the girls have money for a planeticket herself ofcourse but atleast within this group they seem to have). So logistic can be tough but blinking out the right targets are only good fun and as easy as a swift Makati date realy and I don't have to leave my apartment before I pick them up downstairs. I spend 1 day with them only.
# 5/6 Beats eachother somewhat dead. True first time solo female travellers can have tough time dealing with the crazy NAIA immigration bunch. Though after they have a few stamps in their passport they have little to no trouble travel to SIN, BKK, HKG, CKG, DNP etc. Some money to show or atleast owning their own credit card will not hurt one bit. Today many girls have their own money and cards from my experience.
# 8 My initial response would be YES no matter what (to avoid beeing played). Can be fun pretending you never been in phils though if you get a feel the girl try play you a bit and then I agree NO would be my initial response just to play games with her as well. All in good fun.
# 10 HM, well I appreciate big time a girl beeing able to say more than this "Hi, how are you" crap. If I find a pretty and sexy one writing more than this and the msg build up is not looking "copy pasted (or as you state contains e mails)" I realy find that nice as she then stand out from her "sisters". But for the rest of your #10 I agree.
# 11 I must say I did have some good evidence from our precommunication this girl was playing me. When she told me her grandpa died she was ofcourse in big trouble as she had to fly back home and pay a lot for the funural. I could not help it but popped the question: "and how many times have he died lately? And that concluded our communication in a blink of a second.
# 12 Agreed. Should raise your alertness but block a spinner from only "feeling not good" is atleast in my book a tad to harsh. I have had them "feeling not to good" only due to having catched a cold and nothing else. So if she is a nice spinner atleast sort out why she is not feeling ok. Another MO I have used if a girl obviously have a lot of "problems" is answering her with problems (yours) beeing a lot worse than hers. My personal best is when this spinner obviously was trying to play my, ahem, good gullible nature, stating she did have some family emergencies needing money for speedy travel to the province. My swift reply to shut her up was simply my house just burned down and my car got ran over by a truck. That gave her the "huh?" and "ah ok" respond. All good fun ofcourse.
# 13 Yes some are wised up ofcourse. Some girls are well aware of totaly many guys are full of shit as well so they will be on high alert until you can calm them down. Talking to many girls over the years one bug problem is that many guys just say they will come to Manila but a very small percentage actually set foot on phil soil. This can make them girls loose faith in the males surrounding them in datingsites. I use mostly FB these days but I usually each trip now (I comeinto Makati quite frequent, just concluded my 14'th trip this year) make sure I have a new pic from a relatively well known Makati site showing date and time (just to make sure to the girl I am actually here quite often and no bullshit). On two occations I have used my hotels typhoon warnings (July and Sept) in combination with a selfie. Atleast the girls know you have been there quite recent.
# 14 Patience is ok but not to much atleast not in the beginning. After the initial few chats back and forth I will ask them for c2 c so I don't waste time on fuglies. Pinays are experts hiding their less beautiful sides in pics so only a pic is of no use to me in the long run. Have to webcam her. After directing my biz from datingsites and over to FB here you get a better feel of the girls as they have many times hundreds of pics of themself. So lately due to this I have skipped the webcams without getting any surprises when meeting them.
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FC rocks
[QUOTE=Tomasb;1645046]Someone recently noted on this board how much success they had with Filipinocupid. Since I plan to visit the Philippines in the near future, I decided to join for a month. So far my experience on this site has been dismal. Virtually every attractive girl, with the exception of one, has ultimately admitted to me that she is living in Ghana with the same cock and bull story about someone in family died, etc. Etc. And she had to move. Total nonsense.
The only other women contacting me are old ladies and young fatties. I have been talking to one quite attractive girl who says she is not from Ghana, and lives in a far southern Phil province and city, but is angling for me to buy her a ticket to meet me in Hong Kong before I come to MNL. To say I am suspicious is an understatement. The city she claims to be from is the far southern city starting with the letter 'Z' where all the Muslims live. She seems to know about the problems there for Christians so perhaps she is telling me the truth.
The site even has a disclaimer about woman from Ghana contacting interested suitors but that has not deterred these women, if they even are women.
So perhaps can someone on board can explain how to work around this issue? Has anyone had success with this website?[/QUOTE]There are many good women on FC, many. Sadly the Hot ones from Zamboanga are fake, the Ghaan girls expose themselves quickly avoid the beauties currently in China, none are educated but all have amazing pics. None the less there is Pirate Chest of booty there with a little game.
My profile does not even have a pic as I met my "GF" there and don't need to be found there again but my list is GROWING daily. But I prefer 30 year old plus women that actually enjoy fucking so I am odd that way.
Be Patient Polite and Proper and you will find MANY!
PP.
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FC Scammers
Whenever I get one of the Scammers from FC I always report them there is a button right on their profile I highly recommend doing so. I have reported many.
PP.
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[QUOTE=EconoTech;1646673]
I thought it is free for women, correct me if I am wrong! If paid for women too, I doubt so many will even visit the site.
[/QUOTE]FC can be free for anyone, but it won't be much use when both parties in the message are Standard members.
Standard members can view others' profiles. Their messages to Gold and Platinum members can be read and replied to without restriction. They can send and receive messages to other Standard users but only the first few characters of the message will be visible.
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I notice a lot of hot woman claim to be from Zamboanga? One of them even sent me some photos of her in panties and bra. She was the same girl from the other private photos she sent me -- a few pretty sexy shots so know it's the same girl.
Once I told her I was not flying her to Hong Kong to meet me and also not flying her to Cebu City either, she stopped writing me.
I also see quite a few beauties from China too.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1646942]There are many good women on FC, many. Sadly the Hot ones from Zamboanga are fake, the Ghaan girls expose themselves quickly avoid the beauties currently in China, none are educated but all have amazing pics. None the less there is Pirate Chest of booty there with a little game.
My profile does not even have a pic as I met my "GF" there and don't need to be found there again but my list is GROWING daily. But I prefer 30 year old plus women that actually enjoy fucking so I am odd that way.
Be Patient Polite and Proper and you will find MANY!
PP.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=CoolTraveler;1646500]
14. Patience is the key. I have found good ones. But you got to have a conversation, become friends, before you get to the next step.
[/QUOTE]Yes and no. I believe exchanging a few friendly messages builds rapport and establishes a bit of trust for her to put aside what reservations she has about visiting my place on the first meeting. These messages could happen over several days or even weeks (if they live out of town, say in the Middle East - they often pass through Manila on their way home for their yearly vacation) or they may happen over a few hours and the girl arrives at my place later in the day. I also use her messages to determine whether she has a noggin on her shoulders. I like meeting girls who have a bit of smarts and are able to converse about things. It's true some use a copy-and-paste message or two but once you've exchanged a few with her you can suss that out.
1) Use your profile to clearly explain you're looking for a sexual relationship.
2 a) If the girl sends you a written message wherein she makes it clear she understands what you're looking for and is agreeable to it move on to figure out when you can meet cam2 cam and then face2 face.
2 b) If she sends you a "Hi" message, or an interest message, or makes you a favourite send your reply asking her whether she's read you profile and does she understand what you're looking for? Escalate with those who reply affirmatively.
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[QUOTE=Tomasb;1646998]I notice a lot of hot woman claim to be from Zamboanga? One of them even sent me some photos of her in panties and bra. She was the same girl from the other private photos she sent me -- a few pretty sexy shots so know it's the same girl.[/QUOTE]From the US Department Of State, dated today. Boldface and italics are mine.
[B]Philippines Travel Warning, November 20, 2014[/B]:
The Department of State warns USA Citizens of the risks of travel to the Philippines, in particular to the Sulu Archipelago, the island of Mindanao, and the southern Sulu Sea area. This Travel Warning replaces the Travel Warning dated May 19,2014, and reflects continuing threats in those areas due to terrorist and insurgent activities.
USA Citizens should continue to defer non-essential travel to the Sulu Archipelago, due to the high threat of kidnapping of international travelers and violence linked to insurgency and terrorism there.
Based on a history of kidnappings and attempted kidnappings of foreigners in the Eastern Sabah province of Malaysia and in the southern Sulu Sea area by terrorist or insurgent groups based in the Sulu Archipelago, USA Citizens should continue to exercise extreme caution if considering travel in the southern Sulu Sea region from the southern tip of Palawan, along the coast of Sabah, Malaysia and the islands of the Sulu Archipelago, [I]up to Zamboanga City, Mindanao[/I].
USA Citizens should continue to exercise extreme caution if traveling to the main island of Mindanao in the southern Philippines. Separatist and terrorist groups across Mindanao continued their violent activities, conducting bombings and kidnappings, attacking civilians and political leaders, and battling Philippine security forces. In particular, the Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Fighters (BIFF) remain active in the Cotabato City area, and in the Maguindanao, North Cotabato, and Sultan Kudarat provinces, where the government maintains a state of emergency and a greater police presence.
[I]The Embassy has imposed a strict restriction on all but the most essential travel to Mindanao and the Sulu archipelago, and Embassy employees must receive special authorization from Embassy security officials to travel to any location in Mindanao and the Sulu archipelago, including urban centers.[/I]
We strongly recommend that USA Citizens traveling to or residing in the Philippines enroll in the Department of State's Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP). STEP enrollment gives you the latest security updates, and makes it easier for the nearest USA Embassy or consulate to contact you in an emergency. If you don't have Internet access, enroll directly with the nearest USA Embassy or consulate.
Regularly monitor the State Department's website, where you can find current Travel Warnings, Travel Alerts, and the Worldwide Caution. Read the Country Specific Information for the Philippines. For additional information, refer to the Traveler's Checklist on the State Department's website.
SNIP.
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An example of a scammer's message
Received this recently on FC, from MNL with no photo this time. Note that on FC you can see who visited your profile, this one didn't. I've redacted the contact info, more for my own protection then hers.
[QUOTE]"I have gone through your profile and,I wish we can know more about ourselves if you dont mind,I'm looking for a man who's kind, faithful,honest,caring and very understanding,Someone who's willing to love and accept me for who and what i am.I consider myself to be kind, loving, patient,romantic in heart,cheerful,loyal, friendly and with a good sense of humor.Dont border me if you are not serious on the site,You can get me on my email and we will share pictures and know ourselves better on (XXX@gmail) You can also Whatsapp me on +12345678[/QUOTE]Also note the "accept me for who and what I am" part; often, but not always, a clue that the poster is a ladyboy.
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FLy in / Fly our worker
What do you guys think? Please share experiences.
I will be in Manila for a week of business meetings. I need to have a runner to help me with taxies, errands, Ministop supply visits etc I'm thinking of flying in an unmet DIA contact from CDO. She has business attire and a biz degree but no job. Scenario is she looks after my biz needs and also my nighttime needs.
Too messy? Easier just to find a GF in Manila?
Any experiences?
BD.
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[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1647147]What do you guys think? Please share experiences.
I will be in Manila for a week of business meetings. I need to have a runner to help me with taxies, errands, Ministop supply visits etc I'm thinking of flying in an unmet DIA contact from CDO. She has business attire and a biz degree but no job. Scenario is she looks after my biz needs and also my nighttime needs.
Too messy? Easier just to find a GF in Manila?
Any experiences?
BD.[/QUOTE]My experience from fly ins (quoting my own recent post). They were all(3 girls)unmet except from c2c checked and chatted to:
"I have flew in partygirls from Cebu to Manila. First time I was thinking like you so I flew down to Cebu to collect one girl myself (just arrived CEB, picked her up at the arrival hall and we checked in and flew back MNL). After this I have flown in partyfriends of her, no problem. They all show, don't even have to meet them at the airport and I only reimburse the ticket cost when they arrive (requires the girls have money for a planeticket herself ofcourse but atleast within this group they seem to have). So logistic can be tough but blinking out the right targets are only good fun and as easy as a swift Makati date realy and I don't have to leave my apartment before I pick them up downstairs. I spend 1 day with them only".
I normaly feast from Makati based girls. This fly ins was only for adding a bit spice into my mongering to avoid it becoming to monotonically. But yes, more easy pick up girls based here in Manila. Some will even claim it is useless I am sure. That is not my experience anyway.
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Filipina Cupid
Yes, it costs for women. But it does not cost to join and browse. You cannot send a message if you do not have a subscription. Women can only contact (send messages) to someone who has a paid subscription. If they are subscribed, they can send to anyone. I do see a few women who have paid subscription. But I never click on them, because they are probably getting hit by every Tom, Dick and Harry, especially the Filipino guys. I think a lot of women do visit FC. Especially older women. I think it is because they figure, guys pay to join because they are "serious". This is an important word. "Serious". They will ask, are you serious. And your reply is, yes I am serious. And you are also right. You don't see as many younger chicks. Because it is not free. I also think most of these women sign on, to multiple sites. Sometimes using different pictures of themselves.
Rarely women would hit on you first. Especially when one is as ugly as me. Blonde, blue eyed guys like Skogis probably has the pick of the litter. The Pinays wants to have babies with guys like that. But we ugly guys have to work it. So, you are right. When they hit on you, it is probably a scam. Or she has 3 kids. Or she is 65, and her profile says 31 (a typo to them), and 1 of her 5 pictures shows a woman that you think is her mommy, but in reality it is her latest pic.
On all these sites. Look for normal conversation. Like a message starting with: Hi. How are you doing? My name is Jellybean. Can we be friends? Now this is normal. I always considered these dating sites, like you are sitting at a real bar, and hitting on girls, with no alcohol involved. Imagine hitting on chicks when you are 100% sober. That is what is going on here. So, now consider what kind of conversation would be going on? Normal right?
So, anything beyond this, it is a scam.
The scammers are starting to change. They are starting to use profiles with no pictures. Profiles with pictures of pretty girls, but with cities such as Davao etc. Pretty girl, take it to skype or yahoo and see them. In any case, never meet someone who you haven't had an extensive conversation exchanged pictures or cam'ed. I learn't this from mistakes. Including meeting a chick in a high end crowded bar. And the chick walks in, as I was just about to drink my German lager. And one look at her, and my beer shot out through my nose. It was a beautiful Pinay ladyboy. And the smiles I got from the gents at the other tables. I bought "her" a drink. And ski-daddled out of there quickly. Needless to say, I never went back to that bar, ever, and forever!! I will wait for one generation of bartenders to change over, maybe.
CT
[QUOTE=EconoTech;1646673]Use tineye to check if those pictures are hers, as tineye can match 90% of fakes!!
I thought it is free for women, correct me if I am wrong! If paid for women too, I doubt so many will even visit the site.
No truer words.
If she hits on you, again, either she isn't true or she is a man!! Up your warning meter.
You will be surprised how many girls find it easier to go to HK than to SG.
LOL, same for me too. Though I don't regret the cuties that don't respond. I found cuter they are, the more they think their-shit-don't-stink!
LOL.
LOL again!
Others, pretty much agreed!
Nice write up.
Must be a sticky![/QUOTE]
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Fc
When I meant patience. I didn't mean months. Hahaha. That would be too long. I meant days to weeks. For me, it is 2 weeks to get them to comply, and be assimilated. Basically, you are right. You have to get it to a point where they feel assured. Remember one thing. They are getting hit by many many guys, and who knows how many Filipinos there are, who are hitting on them, apart from us "Farangs". Jumping down their throat, right that second, will scare them off for good. And cam2 cam, and more extensive conversation on skype, FB or yahoo is essential.
Thanks for the response Skogis.
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[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1647147]What do you guys think? Please share experiences.
I will be in Manila for a week of business meetings. I need to have a runner to help me with taxies, errands, Ministop supply visits etc I'm thinking of flying in an unmet DIA contact from CDO. She has business attire and a biz degree but no job. Scenario is she looks after my biz needs and also my nighttime needs.
Too messy? Easier just to find a GF in Manila?
Any experiences?
BD.[/QUOTE]Bad idea BD. CDO girl will be like a fish out of water unless she has / is spends a LOT of time in Manila. If this was a holiday only you could enjoy showing HER around Manila but since it's business forget it & 'employ' a local within your local barangay. Due to shortage of money they don't often venture from their immediate vicinity so get one who lives close by or she will be useless as a province girl. College girls, employed girls & semi pro's are better travelled.
AV.
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Thanks Amavida and Skogis. I will look more locally. I do have one GF coming down from AC for an overnighter but I know she has few skills outside of the bedroom.
DO you think I find he local runner helper before arriving or once I'm on the ground? I don't want to spend a 'Manila. Day looking and would prefer the person to be available first up upon arrival.
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[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1647393]
DO you think I find he local runner helper before arriving or once I'm on the ground? I don't want to spend a 'Manila. Day looking and would prefer the person to be available first up upon arrival.[/QUOTE]You ought to get a runner to help you find the runner.
But don't get the runner who pulls a runner. That's a bummer.
[URL]http://manila.en.craigslist.com.ph/trv/4736379634.html[/URL]
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[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1647393]DO you think I find he local runner helper before arriving or once I'm on the ground? I don't want to spend a 'Manila. Day looking and would prefer the person to be available first up upon arrival.[/QUOTE]Its funny because in the World's ground zero for GFE even though I just met them females, the monger vernacular for a 'runner' is the last thing we all look for. You are looking for a Girl Friday, educated, great sex, a business sense and discretion. Tall order indeed. If you look in the 30+ crowd you can find that actually I think. But amongst the attractive nubile ones available, unlikely.
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[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1647393]Thanks Amavida and Skogis. I will look more locally. I do have one GF coming down from AC for an overnighter but I know she has few skills outside of the bedroom.
DO you think I find he local runner helper before arriving or once I'm on the ground? I don't want to spend a 'Manila. Day looking and would prefer the person to be available first up upon arrival.[/QUOTE]Be aware of the cultural trait to speak with great authority and conviction on matters which they no knowledge LOL! I lean towards waiting until you get there but you might get lucky on line. It's all part of the adventure!
AV.
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[QUOTE=Pantot;1647403]Its funny because in the Worlds ground zero for GFE even though I just met them females, the monger vernacular for a 'runner' is the last thing we all look for. You are looking for a girl Friday, educated, great sex, a business sense and discretion. Tall order indeed. If you look in the 30+ crowd you can find that actually I think. But amongst the attractive nubile ones available, unlikely.[/QUOTE]Yes, my apologies on the use of that word. The Girl Friday sounds familiar. I think that is where I might look 30+, considering I'm 50+.
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Fuck filipino cupid
This fucking blows. Twice now the girl is fucking fat and looks completely different. This is bullshit.
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[QUOTE=OneIpole;1649594]This fucking blows. Twice now the girl is fucking fat and looks completely different. This is bullshit.[/QUOTE]I try to always pre-screen on cam to make sure this does not happen. The few times I have believed the bullshit story about why her cam does not work I have regretted it and the pictures that were sent to me were 20 years and 20 kilograms (45 pounds) ago.
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[QUOTE=Ceegee;1649605]I try to always pre-screen on cam to make sure this does not happen. The few times I have believed the bullshit story about why her cam does not work I have regretted it and the pictures that were sent to me were 20 years and 20 kilograms (45 pounds) ago.[/QUOTE]I agree cam to cam (C at C) is the PNLY way to use the dating sites.
Could be worse? Well you could meet 2 LBs in the same day a friend did (no C2 C) - that was so funny especially when he cam back to the coffee shop tail between his legs LOL.
Even worse? 2 fat overweight and ugly LBs.
So OneIpole think yourself lucky, chalk it down to experience and it won't happen again (I hope).
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[QUOTE=OneIpole;1649594]This fucking blows. Twice now the girl is fucking fat and looks completely different. This is bullshit.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear of your misfortune, but pointing your finger at the dating site isn't going to change your luck. These dating sites don't screen the girls on your behalf. Use your webcam.
Doing due diligence: You're doing it wrong.
Don't stop believin'.
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[QUOTE=Ceegee;1649605]I try to always pre-screen on cam to make sure this does not happen. The few times I have believed the bullshit story about why her cam does not work I have regretted it and the pictures that were sent to me were 20 years and 20 kilograms (45 pounds) ago.[/QUOTE]Yes. A note to newbs: Remove from your radar any girl who is not [B][I]dying[/I][/B] to cam with you. Period. On occasion some girl will have an excuse not to cam (there are many reasons / excuses). I tell them not to bother re-contacting me until they can set up a time to cam with me. I'm not only uninterested in the 'why' she can't cam, I tell her that I'm no longer interested in chatting with her. This sounds a bit short and harsh, but it eliminates the above problems. Also, this is rare, the vast majority of girls can cam; therefor there is nothing lost by one fish not being caught.
There have been times in the past where a girl did not cam and fell off my radar. Once in town she discovered that I am at XYZ hotel (bamboo pipeline) and she leaves a message on my YM (or, alternately she showed at the hotel asking the front desk to leave a message for me) asking to meet right away, along with her phone number. I leave a message right back with her phone: Go to a cafe right now, get on cam, then we can decide if we want to meet. One girl in the province ignored the txt msg and came to the hotel lobby (twice in a few hours, the first time was to see if I was there, and when I wasn't she dropped off her phone number at the counter). The front desk rang my room. I told them to have the girl sit down and wait. I txt her again, telling her to go to a cafe around the corner and cam with me. She balked. I called the front desk and told them to tell the girl to go. Yes, its easiest to elevator down to the lobby and look at her and decide if she's worth being with. But I'm a stickler about the cam rule. She finally went to the cafe and cammed with me (I did not end up meeting with her -- her dating site profile said 19, in chat she said was 19, but really she was mid-late 20's -- and I had a date with a looker later).
Of course I'm willing to chat with her a time or two without cam. After that. . .
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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1649743]. Once in town she discovered that I am at XYZ hotel (bamboo pipeline) and she leaves a message on my YM (or, alternately she showed at the hotel asking the front desk to leave a message for me) asking to meet right away, along with her phone number. I leave a message right back with her phone: Go to a cafe right now, get on cam, then we can decide if we want to meet. One girl in the province ignored the txt msg and came to the hotel lobby (twice in a few hours, the first time was to see if I was there, and when I wasn't she dropped off her phone number at the counter). The front desk rang my room. I told them to have the girl sit down and wait. [/QUOTE]Sounds like good practice on the cam. I think I have been doing that as well.
I did learn one lesson in Cebu. I gave the girl the day of my flight arrival, so she waited at the terminal the entire day and probably approached every punter until I arrived in the afternoon.
These days I give an arrival day two days after my planned arrival. Easier to arrive earlier than have too many pinays banked up. I am also allusive as to my actual hotel, prefering to give a different hotel name. I always meet away from the hotel first, then bring them back.
Thanks for your updates.
BD.
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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1649743]But I'm a stickler about the cam rule..[/QUOTE]Recently after moving more and more of my biz over to facebook (FB) I have not been so strict in my c2 c rules. Benefits from beeing able to scope their genuine FB I guess as here you can see their genuine pics as well and so far it has worked out just fine. If I sense their FB is just a fake one (like mine) I direct or lets say I demand c2 c them girls. But your c2 c MO is state of the art and something others (me incl) should copy or reach for. Atleast it will prevent meeting up with fuglies (aka waste of time).
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Cam 2 cam question
[QUOTE=Skogis;1649879]Recently after moving more and more of my biz over to facebook (FB) I have not been so strict in my c2 c rules. Benefits from beeing able to scope their genuine FB I guess as here you can see their genuine pics as well and so far it has worked out just fine. If I sense their FB is just a fake one (like mine) I direct or lets say I demand c2 c them girls. But your c2 c MO is state of the art and something others (me incl) should copy or reach for. Atleast it will prevent meeting up with fuglies (aka waste of time).[/QUOTE]When you guys do C2 C, what program / service do you use? Skype? Or is there some other option that is more Filipina friendly? Thanks, F.
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[QUOTE=Forest;1650868]When you guys do C2 C, what program / service do you use? Skype? Or is there some other option that is more Filipina friendly? Thanks, F.[/QUOTE]Yahoo Messenger only. I think (correct me if I'm wrong), but one cannot skype with several others at the same time without the others knowing about it? YM lets me chat to multiple at the same time while viewing their cam. You can ask anyone at any time to wave at you to know they are not using a videotaped loop of another person. If a girl will not move quickly from a dating site message to YM in the next few days, I stop communicating with her. One or two YM chats at most without camming, otherwise I stop communicating with her. I ask quickly in the first / second dating site message if they can YM w / cam soon. Balkers get dropped. Dating site / YM / cam is the expectation and I make it known.
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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1650923]Yahoo Messenger only. I think (correct me if I'm wrong), but one cannot skype with several others at the same time without the others knowing about it? YM lets me chat to multiple at the same time while viewing their cam. You can ask anyone at any time to wave at you to know they are not using a videotaped loop of another person. If a girl will not move quickly from a dating site message to YM in the next few days, I stop communicating with her. One or two YM chats at most without camming, otherwise I stop communicating with her. I ask quickly in the first / second dating site message if they can YM w / cam soon. Balkers get dropped. Dating site / YM / cam is the expectation and I make it known.[/QUOTE]I have been using Skype but I only cam with girl one on one just for enough time to know they are pretty and they have good verbal english. Then I log off Skype. I also have YM but I have some firewall issues from my laptop and not always reliable.
As for the quality of the girls internet connection it is usually crap. Some have low bandwidth wifi. I love the way they always say must be my (braindrain's) connection.
BD.
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[QUOTE=Forest;1650868]When you guys do C2 C, what program / service do you use? Skype? Or is there some other option that is more Filipina friendly? Thanks, F.[/QUOTE]If you're a busy lad then you're going to need several I'm clients on your smartphone / tablet / desktop.
The poorest girls in the PI have a Yahoo email addy's & Yahoo Messenger because that is installed by default in provincial Internet cafe's.
The better educated &/ or more affluent use Skype & one of the many others. You can pretty much guess her exposure to foreigners by what service she is on.
Yahoo's software has lagged badly for years, it's pretty poor quality (freezes / crashes), nevertheless you will need to have an account. The girls can pretty much tell when you're chatting multiple girls simultaneously on Yahoo. They should know, they chat multiple men often.
AV.
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[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1649685]I agree cam to cam (C at C) is the PNLY way to use the dating sites.
Could be worse? Well you could meet 2 LBs in the same day a friend did (no C2 C) - that was so funny especially when he cam back to the coffee shop tail between his legs LOL.
Even worse? 2 fat overweight and ugly LBs.
So OneIpole think yourself lucky, chalk it down to experience and it won't happen again (I hope).[/QUOTE]Well that is true. It was a fatty and pretty nasty but at least it didn't have a dick!
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Finding gems
[QUOTE=OneIpole;1652506]Well that is true. It was a fatty and pretty nasty but at least it didn't have a dick![/QUOTE]Its a numbers game. Know what you want, let it be known, qualify & sift through the chaff to find the gems. Your experience is just the beginning. Be prepared for nice surprises.
AV.
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Robinsons. Christmas cleanup.
Robinsons seams to "clean up" the entrance during Christmas time.
Nearly no girl inside the Pedro Gil at the entrance.
Only wandering around or in front of the entrance, outside the mall.
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Hang on
Lets hope this Typhoon only takes a small [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] on us tomorrow, I dread the electrical outages.
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Typhoon
Ruby is official only a tropical storm now, light rain in Manila. If it don't stop tonight, flooding tomorrow. (I hate the traffic in Manila during flooding).
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[QUOTE=JoeMailde;1653523]Robinsons seams to "clean up" the entrance during Christmas time.
Nearly no girl inside the Pedro Gil at the entrance.
Only wandering around or in front of the entrance, outside the mall.[/QUOTE]Nah, it's self regulating. During holiday periods they're INSIDE with their blood sucking families, spending the money we have been giving them all year.
AV.
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[QUOTE=Amavida;1654261]Nah, it's self regulating. During holiday periods they're INSIDE with their blood sucking families, spending the money we have been giving them all year.
AV.[/QUOTE]Yup, you hit the bull's eye.
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[QUOTE=JoeMailde;1654088](I hate the traffic in Manila during flooding).[/QUOTE]I hate it even without flooding.
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[QUOTE=Ekspat;1654384]I hate it even without flooding.[/QUOTE]Christmas crush + floods = OMFG Apocalytic 'trappic'.
AV.
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First Impressions: Manila Week 1
Bit of a self-introduction as a newbie to the Philippines board. I began mongering in China. For years after I had yellow fever real bad. I found ISG in 2006 while in Ecuador. Traveling 30 months through South America I bed 254 women for 504 sessions, my fave locations being Quito, Medellin and Rio de Jainero. Cured of yellow fever, adoring Latinas, I no longer have the sexual energy of that particular period of time, but I still enjoy the company of a beautiful woman.
This time I am on the road 42 months, 17 done, 25 to go. Began in the South Pacific, into Indonesia. Due to Indy's limited two month visas I feel like I've been doing a motorcycling and diving marathon. Looked forward to a minimum of six months in the Philippines to slow things down.
Wednesday, landed in Manila, checked into a 700 peso box room, spent the day wandering the streets of Ermita investigating hotels for prices, short-term and long-term, room styles.
About 7 pm I go for a walk to watch night life. I have no intention of sexing. I make it six blocks before finding a little doll on the street who alters my resolve. Oh my, I need to bend her over. Joanna, 23 years, of Cebu, pretty face, slim, wearing a super-cute Hello Kitty outfit, quotes me 2000 pesos. Walk to Sogo, 300 pesos for 2 hours. A delight to look at, I enjoy the session.
Thursday. Contemplating an apartment for a month, I decide no. Based on my hotel inquiries I move into one across from Robinsons Place Ermita. It's a good location: grocery store in the mall, dozens of food outlets, shopping, cinema, internet, with LA Cafe two blocks away. The rooms are aged but spacious, with private bathroom, fridge, kitchen, air con. I pay a month at the reduced price of 21,000 pesos (700 per day = $16 usd), plus electricity and water. Guest friendly, she signs in at the door. Upon checkout front desk calls me to ensure all is ok.
In the aft I walk six hours to begin breaking down the city. Ermita through Rizal park, National museum, past glue kids into Intramuros, in and around Chinatown, ending the day at busy Quiapo church.
At night I stop by LA Cafe for a first look. One slim hottie has my attention, chat with her, quotes 2500. Great little body. But all I can think about is Joanna's pretty face. Exit, while walking I find Joanna and happily deposit another load in her cute Hello Kitty pussy. 2000 pesos.
Friday I walk another six hours, starting Quiapo church, exploring more of Chinatown, finding the street walkers around Astrotel and Sogo hotels. No stunners to be found but there is wild card potential. Sample two metro lines, end up in Star Mall, cut down Shaw Boulevard, jumping various vehicles to return to Ermita.
"A single girl made the grade."
In LA Cafe for a beer, I see a super-slender hottie who looks at me but does not smile, nor tries to initiate conversation. She kinda looks haughty, distanced, could be "I am a babe and I know it." She leaves after 30 minutes. So do I, returning to my apt for a shower. Back in LA Cafe I wait, observing women, guys sharking the pool table. The hottie returns. I wave her over. She is shy, reserved. It takes a bit for her to open up. Jay, 28, who looks 22, of Manila. We talk for a couple beers. She buys her own beer (me: "!!"). To hear better I slide her chair closer to mine. Reduced distance, she immediately melts into me. How much for a session? "It's up to you." (me: "!!") I laugh, saying we should talk a price lest she be disappointed. Agreed on 2000 for 2-3 hours.
"When I first saw you I wanted to kiss you. I thought you liked my friend, not me." (Jay).
In my pad we talk for two hours. I love her Salma Hayek voice and accent. By midnight we are making out, BBBJ for 25 minutes, and we fuck up a typhoon. When I finally blow my load in her mouth I note the time as 3 am. Wow. It was a moment where all the elements were aligned for a super-session. The right blend of personality, alcohol, and sexuality. She is clearly attracted to me, I to her. For ISGers who rave about the Philippine girlfriend experience, I get it now.
"Don't touch me or kiss me ok, I'll never leave." Ok, I say, touching and kissing her. For no extra cost, she stays the night and leaves 1 pm. Girlfriend heaven, far surpassing my expectations.
Saturday my dick is broken from fucking Jay, but I am on a sex-high nonetheless. Research ISG for the ACR-I card, thanks to ISGers who posted the relevant links. Print off the forms.
"Are you a soldier?
"Are you in the military?
"Are you a mountaineer?" (me: "haha!")
(men on the street, girl in LA Cafe).
Sunday. In the evening I hire a pedal bike to take me to the casas of Ermita. The fellow introduces me to (1) A2035 Adriatico street, (2) Ozzy's, (3) Green Lantern, (4) Red Rooster, (5) Bistro Emilio at 463 UN Avenue, (6) Amazonica. (I see Hussy's but do not go in.) I expect houses of the South American variety, but these are bars. Being Sunday the selection is not great but it made for a decent intro tour. The only fucklet I see is a super-slim hottie in Green Lantern, her first day working, quoted 3000 pesos for a night, passed.
On my way home a young thing, 22, I forget her name, outside LA Cafe agreed to 1000 pesos, 3 hours. Let's go. (Note: I walk away twice before she agrees to 1000). She's not the prettiest but the price is decent. She's done 3 Japanese men, no Westerners, nervous about the size of my cock. Within minutes she's asking when I'm going to cum. "You agreed to 3 hours, not 3 minutes." She is clearly uncomfortable, trembling, almost crying. I ask repeatedly, are you ok? She squeaks yes. I sigh and decide to get it over with, flipping her into doggie for orgasm and let her exit. For 1000 pesos I didn't mind. It's all venture capital.
Monday. 6 am I get a call, front desk says I have a visitor. Up comes Jay. We sleep till noon. She expects to meet a client at 1:30 pm but decides to stay with me. She is confused about us, scolding herself for liking a client. She wants to spend time with me but does not want to "give it away." So I joke "The next time you come to my apt I will refuse you entry, tell you to meet me in LA Cafe, negotiate a price, so I get sex, you get money, and both of us are happy. " She laughs, this lightens the mood, within an hour she is sucking my cock for free. Watching her I think to myself: "now this is living."
Making out, I use my fingers to feel her pussy slick wet. I'm straining, dying to be inside her. Pure candy. Slooow as possible for as looong as possible. Another great fuck, I pull out and paint her belly. Pizza supper with the lady. By 6 pm off she goes to LA Cafe.
Tuesday. Read the first 70 pages of ISG Manila. There is a lot of ISG opinion for / against LA Cafe, Manila, Philippine women in general. Yes, Manila is a shithole but so are many other Asian megacities. I think Chinese women are the most beautiful type of Asian, but put her against a blue-eyed blond-haired voluptuous German, who are my favorite European, and Chinese beauties become little girls. Separating Philippine women from the standards of other nations, Phil girls are a different type of beauty. Speaking English is a huge plus in their favor. Their petite slender bodies are a youthful turn on. Perhaps at Manila prices they would not appeal to a younger Tungurahua who was hell bent on fucking 7's, 8's and 9's for $6-15. But on this tour, at this time in my life, I prefer Phil girls over Indy girls (who rarely speak English). Where else can one find the strange and unique cultural confluence of Latin-Asians who speak English.
While EDSA sounds too expensive for me to enjoy, Burgos Street the same (but worthy of a look), dance clubs are of interest. I am primarily here to relax from the relentless pace of my travels, but I will continue investigating mongering options as I explore the city and its districts. Pouncing on exquisite Pinay pussies as I stumble across them.
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Liked your report Tungurahua
I really enjoyed reading your experiences. The women can be amazing and is what keeps bringing many men back to there. Enjoy, but be careful of the women falling in love or saying that or yourself!
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Liked your report Tungurahua (2)
Great read. I especially liked the summary of casas. Will do the tour next time I am there.
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Me to great report.
Know the area well, Glad you understand the GFE, I did Costa Rica for 5 years before going back to Asia. Wish you had question for me to answer. Really smart going back 40 pages. I have suggested that to others. I use ISG world wide. It has lots of Thailand advice also. Be safe. After dark stay sober. Walk the middle of the street at night. Have fun, Feliz Navidad.
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LA Cafe, 3 Free Loads
One night in LA Cafe a cute girl sits beside me and says I look lonely. I smile. Later I find her sitting alone under the stairs "You look lonelier." We laugh and agree this is the "sad corner." Two nights no clients. Been in Manila 9 days. A few minutes of conversation I ask if she has a boyfriend. "It's hopeless" -- she states in a way that makes me burst into laughter.
[B]Tuesday.[/B] Two nights later I see her again. She's in black tights, outlining her legs and shapely ass. I wave her over. How about 1500 for two hours. She instantly accepts. The quick response time interests me. I am testing the waters.
Jaylyn, 27 years, hardbody of a teen. "You look like a nice man." That sets the stage. Be nice and these girls open up to be ravaged in bed. In the apt, talk for half hour, too shy for a BJ. Doesn't matter, she kisses, more than enough to enter her tight soul. As we both love Rihanna, her cell phone plays tunes.
I let Jaylyn cowgirl to comfortably manage entry. She slides down on the pole and starts riding. Flipping her over, legs high spread wide, slow and delicious, bump and grind, rapid thrusts. "Oh shit! Oh shit! Oh shit!" she moans, cheeks flushed, looking into my eyes with love.
Pull her to the bed corner for extra depth. Flip to doggie, flat-doggie, blow my load on her back. Both of us really enjoy our time together. Two hours, 1500 pesos, off she goes to LA. Another brilliant girlfriend fuckfest: my dick is glowing pink from indulgence.
[B]Wednesday[/B] is memorable. I blow 3 loads without spending a dime.
9:30 am, front desk calls. Jay (not Jaylyn) comes up. I said come by anytime. We snuggle and snooze. Later, "stop touching me, you make me hot." She starts kissing my neck, proceeds to bathe my cock in spit. Watching her pendant, Jesus on the cross, dangle by my cock as she goes down on me, is an interesting visual. Off come our clothes, in goes my cock, out comes a load. This is my third time with her (one paid, two freebies). Each time we are together I hear a revised truth, including some impressive facts. Her client last night paid her 7000 pesos. She has a sugar daddy wiring money. Family intrigues, and more. I can only speculate how far this rabbit hole goes down into the murky depths.
11 pm, LA Cafe, two girls invite me to their table. Sure. They bought a beer tower, give me a glass and keep filling it. One is really cute. Gem, 23, long flowing black curly hair past her ass. "Why do Western guys always pick ugly girls?" her friend asks.
Gem talks "of the heart," how money should not interfere with the heart. Ok, I ask to clarify "so you want to come home with me for no money?" "Yes."
By 1:50 am I am getting the sweetest, craziest fuck of my short life. Imagine a woman who loves her man and knows she is going to die in two hours. That's the kind of frenzied, passionate, hardcore, uninhibited, tongue on tongue, bareback fucking Gem smothers me with over next two hours. Mind blowing sex.
She's like a 40 year old pro at the top of her game in the body of an 8teenie. The look on Gem's face, in her eyes, as she forcefully gobbles my cock to base -- and holds. Holy fuck.
"I like you. I like you soooo much!!!" she says over and over and over I as thrust. Then "I like it on top." Does she ever: those hips rock back and forth, up and down in rapid-fire like I've never experienced before.
And the shouting!!! She's yelling and screaming as she rides the cock. I lay back, amazed by the sight, thinking "who is this girl?!" It's like a dream.
I'm back on top. "I will never forget you!!!" she whispers repeatedly, intensely, urgently while I am feeding her cock. "Cum in me!" she pleads "I can't get pregnant." What?! Fuck that. After several delays, I wind up, pull out and spray her toned hard tummy and pert tits.
Session 1. We dress. I expect she will go. Hugs, caresses, kisses. I suspect I may never see her again. Within 30 minutes we are ripping our clothes off. She rams the cock down her throat, holding.
I re-mount that explosive little hole between her legs, her feet in the air. 20 minutes of grunting, I can feel a second load building, a few delays, pull out and fire across her belly. This time she quickly slides under me and her mouth suctions my cock as it throbs in orgasm -- HOLY SHIT!!! It catapults me into the stratosphere, I convulse in body spasms, and burst into laughter as I float down.
I always dream of the porn star who sucks on a guy's cock post-orgasm -- that is pure love, pure lust, the sweetest act of worship a woman can do for a man. And here she is sucking my cock.
I walk her back to LA Cafe. True to her word, I didn't pay her a peso.
O my god. I've died and gone to heaven. Bury my corpse in the Philippines.
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Posted in the ROD
[QUOTE=Tungurahua;1655280]Another brilliant girlfriend fuckfest: my dick is glowing pink from indulgence.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tungurahua;1655280]She starts kissing my neck, proceeds to bathe my cock in spit. Watching her pendant, Jesus on the cross, dangle by my cock as she goes down on me, is an interesting visual. Off come our clothes, in goes my cock, out comes a load. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tungurahua;1655280]Imagine a woman who loves her man and knows she is going to die in two hours. That's the kind of frenzied, passionate, hardcore, uninhibited, tongue on tongue, bareback fucking Gem smothers me with over next two hours. Mind blowing sex.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tungurahua;1655280]She's like a 40 year old pro at the top of her game in the body of an 8teenie. The look on Gem's face, in her eyes, as she forcefully gobbles my cock to base -- and holds. Holy fuck.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tungurahua;1655280]And the shouting!!! She's yelling and screaming as she rides the cock. I lay back, amazed by the sight, thinking "who is this girl?!" It's like a dream.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tungurahua;1655280]Session 1. We dress. I expect she will go. Hugs, caresses, kisses. I suspect I may never see her again. Within 30 minutes we are ripping our clothes off. She rams the cock down her throat, holding.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tungurahua;1655280]I always dream of the porn star who sucks on a guy's cock post-orgasm -- that is pure love, pure lust, the sweetest act of worship a woman can do for a man. And here she is sucking my cock. I walk her back to LA Cafe. True to her word, I didn't pay her a peso.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tungurahua;1655280]O my god. I've died and gone to heaven. Bury my corpse in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]OMG you're killing me here! Welcome, young man, to Pinas, the wild-west of sex!
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Tungurahua welcome to the GFE heaven.
We should have a "Donate" button for your reports.
Thank you.
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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1655354]OMG you're killing me here! Welcome, young man, to Pinas, the wild-west of sex![/QUOTE]Amen to that.
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Craigslist in Manila
Are the massage ads all ROBS or are there some legit good ones. What is the damage usually for a outcall to hotel / Apt etc? I'm actually going to stay near P Burgos area.
Is traffic that bad at 1030 pm to Makati?
PC out.
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Hotel Massage
[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1656010]Are the massage ads all ROBS or are there some legit good ones. What is the damage usually for a outcall to hotel / Apt etc? I'm actually going to stay near P Burgos area.
Is traffic that bad at 1030 pm to Makati?
PC out.[/QUOTE]I got good massages at my hotel for 350 an hour, no extras thought. Minimum two hours.
BP.
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Sexed up time in Manila
Just returned from a trip to Manila and Cebu. Head is still spinning and dick is still sore from all the exercise. This time didn't spend time going around to clubs / bars. Discovered several gems on FB pages and groups with genuine pics, services offered and prices. Contacted few in advance so didn't have to play lot of phone (text?) tag. Was there for 6 days and had sex for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Day 1: Had this beauty who claimed to be half american, 1/4 Chinese and 1/4 pinay. Beautiful soft creamy skin and pointy boobs with pink nips. Started sucking and tasted milk (wtf? Claimed to be some hormones and said guys loved it (really? She was crazy and loved to fuck by the hotel window. Exhibitionist!! Sucked cock like there was no tomorrow. Spent 3 hrs in all sort of positions and was spent. Had some local energy booster she suggested and it worked! Was ready for next round in the evening. This time with a local MILF but with a tight bod.
Day 2-6 - repeat of Day 1 but with all sort of exotic beauties from all over Philippines. Couple were pretty new to this line, felt like a tutor guiding and helping them learn new tricks. One very pretty girl. Student and writer, fiercely independent minded, loved the conversation but was bit uptight when it came to sex. Gave awesome slurping blowjob but didn't like oral too much in return. 19 yr old with firm body and what boobs! Didn't want to detach from them.
Give me Manila any day over HK, Korea, S'pore, Malaysia etc.
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Thanks for the FR, but it would've been nice if you had expounded on some of the details; a few pics would have been good too.
[QUOTE=CookieDude;1656917]Just returned from a trip to Manila and Cebu. SNIP
Day 1: Had this beauty who claimed to be half american, 1/4 Chinese and 1/4 pinay. Beautiful soft creamy skin and pointy boobs with pink nips. Started sucking and tasted milk (wtf? Claimed to be some hormones and said guys loved it (really?[/QUOTE]Guess you were a "bottle baby", IMHO there's nothing better than fresh milk, LOL. She from MNL of Cebu? How much of a donation did you give her for her time? PM me her details, I love mother's milk and I also love a good BJ.
[QUOTE]Had some local energy booster she suggested and it worked! [/QUOTE]What's name of it? Where can you get it? What's the cost? Any side effects?
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[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1657051]
What's name of it? Where can you get it? What's the cost? Any side effects?[/QUOTE]Probably talking about that Extra Joss shit they buy in sari sari stores LOL! Fun to read FR's from some new blood for a change.
AV.
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P burgos massage girls
[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1656010]Are the massage ads all ROBS or are there some legit good ones. What is the damage usually for a outcall to hotel / Apt etc? I'm actually going to stay near P Burgos area.
Is traffic that bad at 1030 pm to Makati?
PC out.[/QUOTE]I was just there about a week ago and all I did was take a walk down to p burgos around 8 pm and the streets were lined with massage girls in uniforms. I just pick the one I like and tell her that I want a good massage and a fuck and go from there. About 75 % just asked how much I give them. Usually it was 1500 + a really good tip (to be determined on quality of service) + the massage usually 4 to 500 for room service. If she was good the tip was 500 if just ok usually 2 to 300. Make sure that's a 2 hour service, one for massage and one for sex. Also make sure you know what she will and won't do before you get to your room. One girl wanted to stay with me after her shift and watch tv I said "sure " LOL and let her watch a little bit while I went down on her and then aimed her at the tv and did her doggy style while she watched some cartoon. She started out laughing at the cartoon and in no time I had her barking at the tv and slamming back against my manly belly. There's so much fun to be had in the philippines.
LAT.
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[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1656010]Are the massage ads all ROBS or are there some legit good ones. What is the damage usually for a outcall to hotel / Apt etc? I'm actually going to stay near P Burgos area.
Is traffic that bad at 1030 pm to Makati?
PC out.[/QUOTE]I just happened to post in the Makati thread about massages in P Burgos. So I'm interested to know if anyone has taken these girls in these massages houses that I see on the street. Not talking about "outcalls" as my hotel is too far away now that traffic is a pain. Just thought it would be nice to get a rub and tug either before going out to the bars, or after going to bars and seeing all those hot chicks w / their titties out.
As for traffic: hell ya. I haven't been to Burgos in 2 years. And traffic wasn't that bad a couple years ago, but last night it took us an hour to go 3 miles.
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[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang;1657087]I was just there about a week ago and all I did was take a walk down to p burgos around 8 pm and the streets were lined with massage girls in uniforms. I just pick the one I like and tell her that I want a good massage and a fuck and go from there. About 75 % just asked how much I give them. Usually it was 1500 + a really good tip (to be determined on quality of service) + the massage usually 4 to 500 for room service. If she was good the tip was 500 if just ok usually 2 to 300. Make sure that's a 2 hour service, one for massage and one for sex. Also make sure you know what she will and won't do before you get to your room. One girl wanted to stay with me after her shift and watch tv I said "sure " LOL and let her watch a little bit while I went down on her and then aimed her at the tv and did her doggy style while she watched some cartoon. She started out laughing at the cartoon and in no time I had her barking at the tv and slamming back against my manly belly. There's so much fun to be had in the philippines.
LAT.[/QUOTE]So your saying that on Burgos, its about 2 k or so for them to come to room? Then if it clicks whatever happens is up to her what she wants do or not.
PC out.
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CookieDude question
[QUOTE=CookieDude;1656917]....Discovered several gems on FB pages and groups with genuine pics, services offered and prices. Contacted few in advance so didn't have to play lot of phone (text?) tag. ....[/QUOTE]I am curious about what you say about Facebook. Where do we view services offered and prices there? It seems to easy this way, but if possible please let me know (via PM if you want).
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[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1657277]So your saying that on Burgos, its about 2 k or so for them to come to room? Then if it clicks whatever happens is up to her what she wants do or not.
PC out.[/QUOTE]In any of the big cities that's about what it costs you in the end. It's a sign of the times that P. Burgos is now flooded with girls plying this new 'trade'.
AV.
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BBBJ on Burgos
Meet a girll / LB who the fuck knows.
500 p BBBJCIM, was here for 15 minutes.
Oh well, I needed to dump a load.
PC out.
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[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1657277]So your saying that on Burgos, its about 2 k or so for them to come to room? Then if it clicks whatever happens is up to her what she wants do or not.
PC out.[/QUOTE]Looking at one of my old FR reports from 2013 my massage on P Burgos was P500 each. Extras were available. The place was upstairs.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1972-Angeles-City&p=1451865&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1451865 if this helps.
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[QUOTE=CookieDude;1656917]Discovered several gems on FB pages and groups with genuine pics, services offered and prices. Contacted few in advance so didn't have to play lot of phone (text?) tag. Was there for 6 days and had sex for breakfast, lunch and dinner.[/QUOTE]I'm also curious about the pages and would really appreciate a PM with more info!
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FB Escorts
Use the Facebook Search function. I plugged in "Manila escort" and found a few. Or find one girl offering services and view her friends list. I have only looked, not followed up.
[QUOTE=FlapFlap;1657588]I'm also curious about the pages and would really appreciate a PM with more info![/QUOTE]
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Filipina Fuckfest
[B]Thursday, Dec 11.[/B] After three free loads on Wednesday, fucking a mind-blowing pussy, I expect sessions with new girls to be tame. The first is. Picked petite Sara, 27 years. She is quieter, less expressive in the sack, lame BBBJ, though the cream gushing out of her pussy says she enjoys the sex. Started as 1000 pesos for 2 hours, upgraded to overnight for 1500. I blow two loads. She wants to hang out. No thanks. FF. Fuck. Forget. On subsequent nights she shows up at my place when I have company. I put an end to it: if you are not invited do not come here.
[B]Friday, Dec 12.[/B] Playing pool with girls gives me an opportunity to observe potential fucks in better lighting, from multiple angles. It allows me to plant seeds around the bar as I never know how the night will progress, what seeds will sprout. Teresa is one such girl. In a heated battle down to a single 8 ball she wins games 4-3. Witch.
During a walk around I spot sex-weapon Gem. She's busy with a fellow. After a couple hours, the night bleeding away, I give up on Gem, grab Teresa, propose 1000 pesos for 2 hours. The initial look on her face tells me she expected more, but she accepts, off we go. Teresa is not the most beautiful girl the bar, a little chubby, but she is super-friendly, smart, we get along and the price is solid.
CRACK! The ball clears the stadium. Another home run. She's a lot of fun in the sack. It is beautiful sexing in slippery sweat, french kissing, eating her pussy, listening to her squeals. The cock is like steel fucking these girlfriends. The right mix of alcohol, I can cum on command. Her legs shaking, I let her rest a few minutes between attacks. "I think it is going to hurt to walk" she laughs. She is in heaven taking the cock. 4:40 am, lying on her tummy for a rest, that's my cue. I mount in flat-dog and pump to explode. I tell her she is great in bed. She admits I give her the best fucking of her 23 year old life. Later, in a solitaire afterglow, I am lying on the bed, flipping channels, smile on my face, the stink of her pussy on my cock.
How do other Philippines ISGers keep their egos in check doing this for months and years on end?! A part of me feels I am morphing into a God.
[B]Saturday, Dec 13.[/B] LA Cafe is incredible. It's a revolving door for thousands of females. The girls outnumber males by what? 7 to 1? 10 to 1? Often I sit quietly with a drink, recovering from the previous night, taking the scene in, contemplating the variables of unlimited girlfriend experiences, endless ecstasy. Every new girl that walks though that door is potentially screaming my name, worshipping my cock. Each Pinay screaming for love, attention, a small contribution to their child's Christmas fund. At this rate, by month's end, I will run out of words to describe these experiences.
By 11:30 pm I spot delicious Gem. We shoot pool, a few drinks. We discuss her idea of 'friends with benefits.' To disco Exklusiv for a couple hours. We look perfectly synchronized. Eyes on us. Making out on the dance floor. She takes notice I am kissing her in public, knowing I want only her in a crowded room of females.
In my apt there is two hours of blistering hot sex. I think a part of my psyche snaps under the strain of her intense fucking, not wanting to pull out, blissfully shooting my load inside her sweet pussy by 5 am.
[B]Sunday, Dec 14 to Tuesday, Dec 16.[/B] This is the start of a three-day fuckfest with Gem: Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. I dress only to make food and alcohol runs.
We laze in bed, naked, watch movies, laugh, caress, snuggle. God I love my paws on her sweet tits. Her ass cheeks are built for my hands. That perfect little ass as she lies on her tummy, legs spread. Occasionally she rolls over and starts sucking my cock, gets me raging hard, then resumes watching tv. Or I stick a finger into her pussy, she whimpers, I pull it out and and taste her. We both love to tease. Holy fuck we make each other crazy.
The hours haze together, days disappear, we fuck every few hours. Of multiple sessions, I shoot two or three loads a day. I lose count of her orgasms. Scenes. My teeth locked, grunting, thrusting into her, she says "cum in my mouth!" I pull out and shoot over her pretty lips, onto her tongue. Another, she mounts me cowgirl, I let her go at it, she pops off two orgasms, her body breaking out in a sheen of hot sweat each time. The liquor bottles pile up. The garbage bins overflow. The sex continues, her pussy, my cock, simultaneously incinerating our brains.
The look on her face as she takes my cock is unreal. She loves cowgirl, using my pelvis as a washboard for her clit. I love watching her ass bounce up and down on my cock as she sprints into another crashing orgasm. "I'm cumming!" she yells. The O's pile up. When she rolls off, my stiff cock is glistening in her cum. After shooting more lust into her soul, I peel myself off her, she starts singing "Hallelujah!" mimicking an angelic choir. We laugh. Life is gorgeous. Moments like these are rare.
We spoil each other rotten. We both know at some point this fuckfest has to end. A violent ecstasy burns its junkie users out after prolonged exposure, becomes the normal, then boring and hellish. Wednesday morning she departs. For three days of hardcore fucking I give her 500 pesos for a taxi home. I like friends with benefits. Free of Gem, immediately I am yearning to fuck fresh pussies, yet all-too aware my expectations are due for a correction.
"I know your motives and you know mine.
The ones that love me I tend to leave behind.
If you know about me and choose to stay.
Then take this pleasure and take it with the pain."
Ariana Grande, Love Me Harder
(my current Goddess)
[B]Wednesday, Dec 17.[/B] Strangely, after three days locked away, I feel out of place, out of practice, in LA Cafe. From 9 pm to 2 am I cannot make up my mind. Drinking too many beers. Go upstairs for the first time, pay the 100 peso entrance. Find a group of girls in the back, I play pool with them. One girl, Kathy, 23, pretty, slim. Yes. She wants 2000. I'll give 1500, bump it up to 1700. Hums, haws, looks at her friends (as if it is shameful to accept less than 2000), accepts.
In my apt Kathy asks me who the girl with the curly hair is. Here we go. Gem was giving me looks every five minutes in the bar, going to the bathroom, looking in on me. Kathy noticed every stare. This is Gem's idea of mutual freedom and friends with benefits?! **sigh**
Focus. Kathy is a hottie to look at, nice body, great tits, comfortable with the lights on, but try as I can to keep an open mind, she doesn't meet GF expectations. Does not kiss. The spark doesn't ignite as I'm fucking her. I can't get into it. I eat her pussy for a while. She loves it, tells me she came five times. Me: "!?!?" I can feel her muscles tensing, but wow she is quiet. She spins onto all fours, tells me to fuck her doggie. Hmmm, perhaps I can get into this. I do. Flatdog eruption.
[B]Thursday, Dec 18.[/B] ISG update. The Christmas blowout sale continues in LA Cafe. From the countryside and Metro Manila lovely little sex soldiers are pouring in by the hundreds, locked in a fierce Christian battle, as instructed by Jesus himself, to win donations for their families. My expectations, post-nuclear Gem, are slowly resetting. Time to get ready.
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Tung
Well you are not God.
Glad you are getting your Christmas shopping done.
Try not to kill yourself. As you have gone way past the GFE.
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[QUOTE=Tungurahua;1657965][B]Thursday, Dec 11.[/B] After three free loads on Wednesday, fucking a mind-blowing pussy, I expect sessions with new girls to be tame. The first is. Picked petite Sara, 27 years. She is quieter, less expressive in the sack, lame BBBJ, though the cream gushing out of her pussy says she enjoys the sex. Started as 1000 pesos for 2 hours, upgraded to overnight for 1500. I blow two loads. She wants to hang out. No thanks. FF. Fuck. Forget. On subsequent nights she shows up at my place when I have company. I put an end to it: if you are not invited do not come here.
[B]Friday, Dec 12.[/B] Playing pool with girls gives me an opportunity to observe potential fucks in better lighting, from multiple angles. It allows me to plant seeds around the bar as I never know how the night will progress, what seeds will sprout. Teresa is one such girl. In a heated battle down to a single 8 ball she wins games 4-3. Witch.
During a walk around I spot sex-weapon Gem. She's busy with a fellow. After a couple hours, the night bleeding away, I give up on Gem, grab Teresa, propose 1000 pesos for 2 hours. The initial look on her face tells me she expected more, but she accepts, off we go. Teresa is not the most beautiful girl the bar, a little chubby, but she is super-friendly, smart, we get along and the price is solid.
CRACK! The ball clears the stadium. Another home run. She's a lot of fun in the sack. It is beautiful sexing in slippery sweat, french kissing, eating her pussy, listening to her squeals. The cock is like steel fucking these girlfriends. The right mix of alcohol, I can cum on command. Her legs shaking, I let her rest a few minutes between attacks. "I think it is going to hurt to walk" she laughs. She is in heaven taking the cock. 4:40 am, lying on her tummy for a rest, that's my cue. I mount in flat-dog and pump to explode. I tell her she is great in bed. She admits I give her the best fucking of her 23 year old life. Later, in a solitaire afterglow, I am lying on the bed, flipping channels, smile on my face, the stink of her pussy on my cock.
How do other Philippines ISGers keep their egos in check doing this for months and years on end?! A part of me feels I am morphing into a God.
[B]Saturday, Dec 13.[/B] LA Cafe is incredible. It's a revolving door for thousands of females. The girls outnumber males by what? 7 to 1? 10 to 1? Often I sit quietly with a drink, recovering from the previous night, taking the scene in, contemplating the variables of unlimited girlfriend experiences, endless ecstasy. Every new girl that walks though that door is potentially screaming my name, worshipping my cock. Each Pinay screaming for love, attention, a small contribution to their child's Christmas fund. At this rate, by month's end, I will run out of words to describe these experiences.
By 11:30 pm I spot delicious Gem. We shoot pool, a few drinks. We discuss her idea of 'friends with benefits.' To disco Exklusiv for a couple hours. We look perfectly synchronized. Eyes on us. Making out on the dance floor. She takes notice I am kissing her in public, knowing I want only her in a crowded room of females.
In my apt there is two hours of blistering hot sex. I think a part of my psyche snaps under the strain of her intense fucking, not wanting to pull out, blissfully shooting my load inside her sweet pussy by 5 am.
[B]Sunday, Dec 14 to Tuesday, Dec 16.[/B] This is the start of a three-day fuckfest with Gem: Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. I dress only to make food and alcohol runs.
We laze in bed, naked, watch movies, laugh, caress, snuggle. God I love my paws on her sweet tits. Her ass cheeks are built for my hands. That perfect little ass as she lies on her tummy, legs spread. Occasionally she rolls over and starts sucking my cock, gets me raging hard, then resumes watching tv. Or I stick a finger into her pussy, she whimpers, I pull it out and and taste her. We both love to tease. Holy fuck we make each other crazy.
The hours haze together, days disappear, we fuck every few hours. Of multiple sessions, I shoot two or three loads a day. I lose count of her orgasms. Scenes. My teeth locked, grunting, thrusting into her, she says "cum in my mouth!" I pull out and shoot over her pretty lips, onto her tongue. Another, she mounts me cowgirl, I let her go at it, she pops off two orgasms, her body breaking out in a sheen of hot sweat each time. The liquor bottles pile up. The garbage bins overflow. The sex continues, her pussy, my cock, simultaneously incinerating our brains.
The look on her face as she takes my cock is unreal. She loves cowgirl, using my pelvis as a washboard for her clit. I love watching her ass bounce up and down on my cock as she sprints into another crashing orgasm. "I'm cumming!" she yells. The O's pile up. When she rolls off, my stiff cock is glistening in her cum. After shooting more lust into her soul, I peel myself off her, she starts singing "Hallelujah!" mimicking an angelic choir. We laugh. Life is gorgeous. Moments like these are rare.
We spoil each other rotten. We both know at some point this fuckfest has to end. A violent ecstasy burns its junkie users out after prolonged exposure, becomes the normal, then boring and hellish. Wednesday morning she departs. For three days of hardcore fucking I give her 500 pesos for a taxi home. I like friends with benefits. Free of Gem, immediately I am yearning to fuck fresh pussies, yet all-too aware my expectations are due for a correction.
"I know your motives and you know mine.
The ones that love me I tend to leave behind.
If you know about me and choose to stay.
Then take this pleasure and take it with the pain."
Ariana Grande, Love Me Harder
(my current Goddess)
[B]Wednesday, Dec 17.[/B] Strangely, after three days locked away, I feel out of place, out of practice, in LA Cafe. From 9 pm to 2 am I cannot make up my mind. Drinking too many beers. Go upstairs for the first time, pay the 100 peso entrance. Find a group of girls in the back, I play pool with them. One girl, Kathy, 23, pretty, slim. Yes. She wants 2000. I'll give 1500, bump it up to 1700. Hums, haws, looks at her friends (as if it is shameful to accept less than 2000), accepts.
In my apt Kathy asks me who the girl with the curly hair is. Here we go. Gem was giving me looks every five minutes in the bar, going to the bathroom, looking in on me. Kathy noticed every stare. This is Gem's idea of mutual freedom and friends with benefits?! **sigh**
Focus. Kathy is a hottie to look at, nice body, great tits, comfortable with the lights on, but try as I can to keep an open mind, she doesn't meet GF expectations. Does not kiss. The spark doesn't ignite as I'm fucking her. I can't get into it. I eat her pussy for a while. She loves it, tells me she came five times. Me: "!?!?" I can feel her muscles tensing, but wow she is quiet. She spins onto all fours, tells me to fuck her doggie. Hmmm, perhaps I can get into this. I do. Flatdog eruption.
[B]Thursday, Dec 18.[/B] ISG update. The Christmas blowout sale continues in LA Cafe. From the countryside and Metro Manila lovely little sex soldiers are pouring in by the hundreds, locked in a fierce Christian battle, as instructed by Jesus himself, to win donations for their families. My expectations, post-nuclear Gem, are slowly resetting. Time to get ready.[/QUOTE]Dude you are a riot. Penthouse forum can't write the fiction you wrote here LOL.
I'm not a young man but shit brother. LOL.
I'm jealous haha.
Pc out.
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[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1658281]Dude you are a riot. Penthouse forum can't write the fiction you wrote here LOL.
[/QUOTE]Did you really have to quote the entire fucking report? Jeez.
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[QUOTE=CunningStunt;1658289]Did you really have to quote the entire fucking report? Jeez.[/QUOTE]The phone thing didn't work with text unfortunately oh well sorry it annoyed you sir Stunt.
PC out.
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Aaaaaaaa.
[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1658336]The phone thing didn't work with text unfortunately oh well sorry it annoyed you sir Stunt.
PC out.[/QUOTE]Do you have any standing and if so where is it?
I will say your brown nosing is stellar for Tungurahua.
Stick w / The Penthouse Forum and you'll have no complaints.
Again, stick w / Penthouse, better for everyone, out.
Happy Happy.
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[QUOTE=Socker;1658353]Do you have any standing and if so where is it?
Dear Socker, regardless of your arrogant pompous statement if u don't know then you just don't know me so hold the attitude pal.
I will say your brown nosing is stellar for
As for brown nosing I don't even know the guy.
Stick w /, The Penthouse Forum and you'll have no complaints.
Who was complaining?
Again, stick w / Penthouse, better for everyone.
Again your pompous arrogant comments are unwarranted pal. I have fucked more
Asian tang than your fat and old ass could muster so cool it as no one
Was even referring anything to u
Happy Happy.[/QUOTE]Anyhow since you don't know me.
From Adam, comments like yours are just BS.
PC out.
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Reads like one of those Playboy made-up stories
Hehehe some of these reports are so perfect that is almost impossible to have really happened.
My 2 cents.
Spaceman.
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Ignore Button
Fellow Board Members.
Please don't waste space responding to Penthouse Letters! Go to Settings and use the ignore setting. If nobody quotes him you will not be bothered again.
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You're right
[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1658370]Anyhow since you don't know me.
From Adam, comments like yours are just BS.
PC out.[/QUOTE]My big mouth has a mind of it's own.
See how I am? As they say in AC.
Pardon me PC, you are right.
I'll be stomping around Burgos Street mid February. Get ready for some Manila trip x.
Salute!
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[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1658370]Anyhow since you don't know me.
From Adam, comments like yours are just BS.
PC out.[/QUOTE]Just put the troll on your ignore list. ISG will be a better place for it.
AV.
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10 photos
Good Advice
[QUOTE=Amavida;1659413]Just put the troll on your ignore list. ISG will be a better place for it.
AV.[/QUOTE]Thank you Chatty Cathy, coming from you it's a feather in my hat. Thankfully it's a two way street.
I'm not close to perfect but I am real. A well meaning human w / content, I make mistakes. Always learning and trying to be a better human.
Since I'm in the Manila Forum, some Burgos pics. I love the board, fellow mongers and the beautiful women we chase , the real ones.
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Tungurahua's report did read like an old classic penthouse forum tale, with a Phils slant.
Hard to see why that simple observation became so controversial.
Does anyone take it literally?
Maybe the Penthouse Forum reference sailed over the heads of some?
What is the point of the bile directed at those who point out its fantastical elements. Nobody slammed the guy for posting it. We all got a kick out of it. Its creative writing obviously not meant to be taken literally.
This forum has a weird echo chamber of obsessive posters who deem themselves the only ones allowed to critique the posts of others.
Chill out self appointed Mandarins.
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[QUOTE=Pantot;1659754]Tungurahua's report did read like an old classic penthouse forum tale, with a Phils slant.
Hard to see why that simple observation became so controversial.
Does anyone take it literally?
Maybe the Penthouse Forum reference sailed over the heads of some?
What is the point of the bile directed at those who point out its fantastical elements. Nobody slammed the guy for posting it. We all got a kick out of it. Its creative writing obviously not meant to be taken literally.
This forum has a weird echo chamber of obsessive posters who deem themselves the only ones allowed to critique the posts of others.
Chill out self appointed Mandarins.[/QUOTE]I have had similar experiences so I see nothing fantastic or fictional about it. The criticisms of his report I found very lame. When the critics descend into name calling I switch off.
AV.
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[QUOTE=Pantot;1659754]Tungurahua's report did read like an old classic penthouse forum tale, with a Phils slant.
Hard to see why that simple observation became so controversial.[/QUOTE]What [I]"simple observation became so controversial"[/I] (in Tung's report)? And there were just 4 posters who were directly critical of Tung's post. And there is often criticism of this style of post (and not just in the PI forums). Controversial? Nah!
[QUOTE]Does anyone take it literally?[/QUOTE]Probably some boys did and were hugely entertained by it. My guess is that most believed it to just be BS.
[QUOTE]Maybe the Penthouse Forum reference sailed over the heads of some?[/QUOTE]Please do not be condescending!
[QUOTE]What is the point of the bile directed at those who point out its fantastical elements. Nobody slammed the guy for posting it. We all got a kick out of it. Its creative writing obviously not meant to be taken literally.[/QUOTE]The seemingly obvious point would be to attempt to discourage similar postings in the future. I think "bile" is an exaggeration!
[I]"We all got a kick out of it"[/I]? I very much doubt it! I certainly did not! Talk about self-appointed Mandarins!
The [I]"creative writing"[/I] was, in my opinion, very childish and certainly lacked any sort of appeal to me.
[QUOTE]This forum has a weird echo chamber of obsessive posters who deem themselves the only ones allowed to critique the posts of others.[/QUOTE]I admit that some long-time members here are a bit harsh on other newer posters (such as myself), but if you don't like it, there are other options apart from directing your bile at these members.
[QUOTE]Chill out self appointed Mandarins. [/QUOTE]They are no more self-appointed Mandarins than you are!
Ikksman.
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Tungurahua's report was hilarious, I loved it. I have read his Indonesian reports and checked out his pictures, and I am quite sure he is legit.
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Padi's Point Bar and Restaurant
I read on another forum that there is the possibility for pickup of FL's at Padi's Point. It is a chain.
Does anybody else have experience on this?
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[QUOTE=Free2;1660394]I read on another forum that there is the possibility for pickup of FL's at Padi's Point. It is a chain.
Does anybody else have experience on this?[/QUOTE]Which PP? There is one in Malate / Ermita, near to Harrison's Plaza. Have been in several times. Rockin live band, but just lots of locals drinking / dancing. It did not appear to be a pickup place in any way. Others? Also visited the one in Calamba: Same.
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Christmas Cumshots
[B]Thursday, December 18.[/B] Wandering LA Cafe, 1am I notice a loner sitting against the window. Hmmm, potential. I can see she is older, not a youthful beauty but not ugly either. She introduces herself, Jeanette, 34. We talk, get along well, she likes rock music (real rock music, not ballads). She is perceptive too, noticing things about me others do not. After 1.5 hours the only variable I need to ask is: do you kiss? Yes. That's the clincher, what I need to make it personal. I offer 1000 pesos, 2 hours. No hesitation: "Yes!"
Fast forward, in my apt. Delicious kissing. I go down on her, she opens up her legs and lets the tongue work. Young girls are often squeamish, not Jeanette. Within 15 minutes she cums 3 times. Even I am impressed.
Over the next two hours, throw in a couple breaks, we lose count of her orgasms. I estimate 10-12. I've only experienced one lady like this of an estimated 300+ women in my life. A triple-hole Ecuadorian who popped off orgasms every five minutes. To this day I fondly remember her.
Midway Jean is astonished I have not cum yet, that I want more. She laughs: "my pussy wants more, my (shaking) legs do not, my mind is exhausted." Shortly after I notice white bed sheets soaked in blood. She goes to wash, starts dressing, afraid I am offended. Huh? Blood is natural, I could care less, let's fuck honey.
I love it when girls announce approaching orgasms, then I can tailor the rhythm and speed. Ramp it up to climax, bring it down as she convulses, shakes, shivers, gasps. Then slowly raise the tempo again.
Round four, the cock plunges in, she orgasms in minutes. To bed edge, love her face as she's cums. She's almost dead, time to satisfy myself. Flatdog. I'm bouncing on the bed like a jackrabbit, drilling her pussy in wild abandon, her face is on a dried pool of splattered blood -- an odd but fucking awesome visual. She's gasping for breath with each forceful thrust. I ask "is it okay if I cum inside (due to your period)?" She groans exhausted "I don't care!!" Blasted a load into her soul. Wind down, delicious strokes as the cock throbs.
"This is a mix of business and pleasure," she gushes while dressing. Give her 1000 pesos, no tip, no complaints. Bought her breakfast, kiss goodbye. A great session. I needed a pick-me-up, a home run. I found one.
[B]Friday, December 19.[/B] Pool games with young hottie Jane. Two says prior I fucked her friend Kathy; at the time Jane was too reserved. She is starting to open up now, touching me. Nice. A future seed.
Wasted an hour talking with Sheila, a strange jerky-motion girl. At first I think she is drunk. An hour listening to her vent about an ex-bf, couldn't convince myself to invest. I suspect she is ongoing drug user.
Found sex-goddess Gem 2:30am, hit club Exklusiv for dancing, followed by two hours of crying. She initiated our 'friends with benefits' yet she is jealous seeing me with other girls, hates herself for feeling this way, doesn't understand why. I know why: through brilliant sex we've touched one another on a deeper level. Drifted into sleep, a few hours later we are making out in a dreamlike fog. I fuck to exhaustion via a dozen positions.
[B]Saturday & Sunday, December 20-21.[/B] Days with Gem, disco Exklusiv (she loves this place), hanging out with a couple, dirty dancing. Return home Gem is so excited from dancing she is bouncing around on my dick like it's a jungle gym. She's my little cock monkey. I whisper enticements into her ear as I fuck her: "I love fucking your little pussy" and "Gem is my girl, my girl, I love fucking my girl." In the heat of the moment I almost believe it myself. After sex she bounces out of bed, faces Manila via the window and exclaims "I came four times!" That's my girl.
[B]Monday, December 22.[/B] LA Cafe, Sheena, 24 years young, a tiny hottie, maybe 85 pounds, I saw Friday in GPoint. An air-conditioner ensures she snuggles to me. Do you kiss? Yes. Offered 1500 for 2 hours. Agreed.
Session starts great, open mouth kisses with tongue. I go down on her, she's musky, wet, seemingly liking it, yet I'm not entirely convinced. Still, what a great little body. The cock slides in. In 15 minutes she's pleading with me to cum. Usual assortment of positions. By 45 minutes she is clearly uncomfortable, I sigh, decide to have mercy on her. Flatdog visual, what a fantastic small body and gorgeous ass. Started out nice and fizzled. Not a GFE but memorable for her size.
[B]Tuesday, December 23.[/B] I meet two girls, one 19 year old hottie with an older fugly. They are insistent on a 3some, refuse to go single as the hottie is not comfortable going it alone. I've never done a 3some, probably never will. No sale. Repeat. Two girls, one 27, a slim looker, other a fugly, insisting on a 3some, the hottie uncomfortable going it alone. Forget it.
About midnight, as I share life experiences with a fellow just met, I notice a girl over his shoulder, she smiles. Hmm, not bad. 15 minutes later we are still smiling at one another. I learn later she is elbowing her friend, saying "Look, he is smiling at me. He is gorgeous." Her friend responds "Get real. We're here to make money, remember?"
I catch the pair of girls as they are leaving for the night. Dom, 27 years young, half Spanish, half Filipina. We talk for a long time, she impresses me, well spoken. This one is different. Do you kiss? Yes. I offer 1500 pesos, 2 hours. Agreed. Give her friend 125 pesos to go home (good riddance).
In my apt we drink and talk for another 2 hours. Moving to the bed she kisses with tongue. Perfect, I'm hard. Dom likes girls too, so I take to licking labia and clit with extra finesse. I get her worked up and, as planned, she accepts my unsheathed cock with zero resistance.
I do the entire session in super slow-motion, milking each movement and moment to maximize sensations. Loves her ears nibbled. The session is beautiful, but because we talked so long my drunken high has worn off, lack of an afternoon nap, I'm tiring, so I fuck to exhaustion without cumming. She orgasms once. Snuggling in embrace. "I hate you," she says with love in her eyes.
Post-coital. If there is one thing women love most about me it is my constant touching, caressing, acknowledging fingers. Dom struggles to go but cannot leave, craving touch, sleeps with me till 9 am. Not much time to recharge. Brief wash, I walk into the bedroom, she's lying on her tummy. Oh yes, look at the juicy ass.
I lie down on top, arms supporting my weight. Up pops her ass, down goes her hand to clit, into pussy goes the cock. Delicious, listening to her moan and watching my cock repeatedly sink between her ass cheeks into silky wet warmth. On purpose I delay orgasm, again find myself tiring quickly and fuck to exhaustion. Dom recounts the scoreboard: it's 3-0.
We laze till 2 pm, our naked bodies fit together so well. Both torn about parting ways. I joke "I would love to do this all day, but us eating one another does not provide much nutritional value." Laugh, dress, give her 1500 pesos, no tip, she is happy.
[B]Wednesday, December 24.[/B] LA Cafe, for the first time the number of wieners out-number the number of women. Tour various dance clubs, GPoint, all slow. Back in LA, re-meet multi-orgasmic Jeanette, she balks at a second session, hopeful to meet a client that doesn't make her work so much (and pays her more money). Suit yourself. Left LA, outside selected cutie Joy, 19 years, 1500 pesos for 3 hours. I knew it was going to be a sub-standard session. No kissing, no passion, simply a hole for cash, complaining after 20 minutes. Blew a routine load, showed her the door. Just scraped through Dec 24.
[B]Thursday, December 25.[/B] Weary of late nights, alcohol binges, hangovers, a lingering chest cold, air-con stuffing my sinuses, relentless hunting, I need a rest. Of the girls, the misses I can write off and forget, the hits make it too damned good to stop now. On that note, I will be in LA Cafe tonight searching for that special Christmas cumshot.
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[QUOTE=Free2;1660394]I read on another forum that there is the possibility for pickup of FL's at Padi's Point. It is a chain.
Does anybody else have experience on this?[/QUOTE]I will try PAdi's on my next trip. But in Phils, every place can be a pickup place, just be polite guy and things happen.
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[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1660931]I will try PAdi's on my next trip. But in Phils, every place can be a pickup place, just be polite guy and things happen.[/QUOTE]The music is so deafeningly loud that it's impossible to have a conversation in there.
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Casinos
Been visiting the casinos in Manila. I think I like Resort World the best as the dealers don't "ask" for tips (tipping the dealer is not allowed). Decent eye candy with the dealers, but the mix is at least 50-50 male to female dealers.
Solaire's mix of female to male dealer is better. Hyatt is downright awful although it's probably the casino I visit the most (out of convenience). Has dim lights, dingy feel and zero eye candy. Hate when dealers "beg" for tips there.
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Sports bar for NCAA Playoffs??
Fellow Mongers,
I need a bit of local help. I'm an avid AL fan and I'm trying to find a venue to watch the AL-OSU Game that kicks off on Friday, 2 Jan at 0930 local. I've looked online without much success, so I'm now posing the question to the forum for any advice. I can't be the only AMCIT in Manila looking to watch college football. My last report is to go to LA Café and ask them to channel surf for me as I can't imagine that much interest in sports at that hour.
All assistance is appreciated.
N_R.
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[QUOTE=Nite_Runner;1663267]Fellow Mongers,
I need a bit of local help. I'm an avid AL fan and I'm trying to find a venue to watch the AL-OSU Game that kicks off on Friday, 2 Jan at 0930 local. I've looked online without much success, so I'm now posing the question to the forum for any advice. I can't be the only AMCIT in Manila looking to watch college football. My last report is to go to LA Caf and ask them to channel surf for me as I can't imagine that much interest in sports at that hour.
All assistance is appreciated.
NR[/QUOTE]Try Team Insider (Tune hotel), Howzat (Kalayaan Avenue) or Handlebar (Polaris Street) in Burgos. Heckle & Jekyll maybe but in the first 2 venues I have seen college football on the TVs (in TI if quiet maybe you could ask the girls to find it).
But I can believe you are one of a few who like college football LOL (being a rugby football man myself) - no comments please gents!
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New Year fireworks in Manila
If you have never endured the shock and awe that is Manila on New Year at midnight, then check this out.
[URL]http://viralityfacts.com/places/fireworks-light-up-manila-city-to-welcome-the-new-year/[/URL]
Remember this is from the business district where there are mostly office buildings so it is quieter than other areas.
It is deafening the further away from Makati you go.
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Amazing
[QUOTE=RedKilt;1663728]If you have never endured the shock and awe that is Manila on New Year at midnight, then check this out.
[URL]http://viralityfacts.com/places/fireworks-light-up-manila-city-to-welcome-the-new-year/[/URL]
Remember this is from the business district where there are mostly office buildings so it is quieter than other areas.
It is deafening the further away from Makati you go.[/QUOTE]Thanks RK. We were at a party on the terrace of a Makati Hotel, and the shock and awe began at maybe 10:30, building sporadically until midnight when the entire sky exploded, echoing from the horizon up to central Makati. We could see as far as Pasay, and the noise plus the visuals were spectacular. I agree with whoever wrote the blog. Manila has to be a major contender for the fireworks capital of the universe.
GE.
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1663728]If you have never endured the shock and awe that is Manila on New Year at midnight, then check this out.
[URL]http://viralityfacts.com/places/fireworks-light-up-manila-city-to-welcome-the-new-year/[/URL]
Remember this is from the business district where there are mostly office buildings so it is quieter than other areas.
It is deafening the further away from Makati you go.[/QUOTE]Spectacular! Thanks and Happy New Year, RK!
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I was very impressed by the fireworks display at New Years.
However there is a toll to pay: as of Jan. 3 the current stats:
1 dead and 30 injured from stray bullets.
45 fire incidents (mostly from fireworks).
Hundreds of injuries (including amputations) from firecrackers.
There was even a duel (resulting in a death) after one person was upset because he thought the other threw a firecracker too close to him.
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Year End Blowout, A Personal Note
[B][B]Thursday, December 25. [/B][/B] A beer in LA Cafe, slim pickings, on the street I talk to a new slender hottie, pretty face, wants 2000. "I give great service," she says without emotion or eye contact. Yeah, at the moment my pillow is more enticing than this vacuous hottie. An early night.
[B]Friday & Saturday, December 26-27.[/B] Walk from Ermita to Mall of Asia and Baclaran. At night I pop my head into bars, one being Hussy's. The waitresses want me to stay, I say I need to eat, one flirty replies "you can eat me, sir." They all giggle. In LA Cafe I find Dom, 27 years, round two, for zero pesos. Can't argue with the price.
She leaves 24 hours later, the orgasm score is 4-3 in her favor. It's great lying around with her; our bodies fit together like interlocking legos. Her pussy is the most aerodynamic, streamlined, airtight creation I've seen, a single unbroken slit from top to bottom.
I blow two loads in flat-doggie (the sacred position), the second one I shoot cum across her back, into her hair and onto the headboard. Those little dudes were inspired. Her fourth O is memorable. As I slip the cock in/out of her I keep my thumb lubricated with spit to massage her clit. She takes over and flies away; a lovely O face.
I offer cash at the end, just to make sure. She declines, came here for enjoyment, not money. In turn I decline an invitation to her apartment for New Years Eve. As we depart she says "See you in my dreams."
[B]Sunday & Monday, December 28-29.[/B] LA Cafe, remeet Gem and we shack up for another two days in my apt, drinking & fucking. This is our third time doing so. She starts telling me her background, family life, Manila, etc. The sex is great but the constant "I love you's" make me weary. I give her 500 pesos for a taxi home.
[B]Tuesday, December 30.[/B] One of the most spectacular sexings of my life. My first session with Jeanette was Dec 18. Her multi-orgasmic ability left me wanting more. My second session with her has raised the bar so high it is fucking depressing to return to normal girls.
From 10:45 pm to 11:58 pm, 73 minutes, she has 16 orgasms. Break 47 minutes. From 12:45 am to 1:26 am, 41 minutes, she has 13 more orgasms. 29 total. I verify with her, she replies laughing "something like that." Says she lost count about 13/29. I held off 5 or 6 times from cumming in the first session; then I fucked to exhaustion because just watching her is far more fascinating than my little spurt of pleasure.
I ask if she cums with every guy like this. No, she has to be turned on by the guy, he can't cum too fast, etc. She was married 7 years to a guy (deceased), but he only made her cum once every sexing. (me: "what?!!") For 3.25 hours paid her 1100 pesos ($25 usd) for one of the most amazing fucks of my life.
She has this crazy nerd humor, spouting off the most ridiculous things, jokes, tidbits, offbeat funnies. One of the quotes she says is an islander slogan "It's ok if I'm lazy, at least I'm not tired." She's a total geek. If only I could put Jeanette in a box to carry around for the rest of my life to fuck at whim.
[B]Wednesday, December 31.[/B] Hit Roxas blvd for fireworks and countdown, dance clubs throbbing, LA Cafe till 5 am. The funniest event of the night is a girl offering to pay, take me home and fuck me. Her friend is busting her guts laughing. Two guys sitting with me, one jealous, then start planning to wh*re me to the girls of LA Cafe, starting price 2000 pesos, whereby they split 45-45 and I get 10%.
[B]Thursday, January 1.[/B] Visit a dozen bars along Burgos street in Makati. Quoted 2600-3900 barfine fees, with payment to girl on top. No thanks. I thought Kojax bar the nicest, with prettiest (and happiest) girls. Midget boxing in another bar. The one benefit to girls stage dancing in tiny clothes is being able to see their bodies: flat tummies, free of baby belly. A couple of the ladyboys in Mixed Nuts are pretty hot; I exit quickly lest their stares of longing turn into pleas of "be my boyfriend, sir!"
LA Cafe, Jeanette, round three. First girl ever I voluntarily raise the price to sex. Paid 1500 pesos for 7 hours. We don't count orgasms this round. What I remember most are the double orgasms. She will be having one orgasm, so I quicken the pace even faster, harder and deeper, which causes her to cum again within 10-15 seconds. O-M-G. It tires me quicker but to see the visual is worth it. Sleep a couple hours. She wakes me up, jacks me stiff and lying on her side puts the cock into pussy. Reposition to flatdog, rippling her ass as I thrust, "cum inside my pussy!" and I do.
[B]Friday, Saturday & Sunday, January 2-3-4.[/B] Gem & I team up yet again, our fourth sexfest, for Exklusiv dancing, drinking, fucking. Most of the hotties in LA Cafe are so business-like, it's almost impossible to pull a hotter and friendlier girl than Gem (for free). I go with the flow, she fucks my dick raw, when I get tired of the unceasing "I love you's" I give her 500 pesos for a taxi for departure, she cries briefly, then her eyes light up when I say "See you later." Friday night she gets really drunk, blacks out, she tells me things; Saturday I astonish her with what I know.
[B]Monday, January 5.[/B] A note to Fellow ISG'ers. To members who like my reports, thank you Key Master, Free2, Redman69, WestCoast1, JoeMailde, Econo Tech, Pcpc1688, Amavida, Ceegee. I like to keep my non-story posts to a minimum, thereby insuring quality contributions without dilution. I've spent years trying to write better stories, capturing the unique elements of each interaction to keep things fresh while discarding mundane details.
For those who question my experiences I can understand why. Prior to the Philippines I used to post pictures to back up the stories. Over the years I am shying away from this. Senior members know, it's the same story: fickle finks tell girls of their pics on ISG. Though many of them are their own worst enemies, these girls have it hard enough. I don't want to ruin their lives exposing them to families & friends.
Without pictures the experiences I live are no longer backed up by visual representations to drive the text home. So we get what we have here: some disbelief. This is unfortunate. My past ISG posts had abundant pictures. At one time I really put out. What am I to do? I am damned if I post pictures, damned if I don't.
For the disbelievers here are examples of my past ISG reports, some photographs attached. Perhaps it will help bridge the disbelief. If not, there isn't much I can do going forward. I write it as I live it. That said, I monger on!
Ecuador
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1691-Photo-Gallery&p=508800#post508800[/URL]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2033-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction&p=508771&viewfull=1#post508771[/URL]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2033-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction&p=737847&viewfull=1#post737847[/URL]
Brazil
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2008-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction&p=636288&viewfull=1#post636288[/URL]
Colombia
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2016-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction&p=789801&viewfull=1#post789801[/URL]
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[QUOTE=JPF;1664134]I was very impressed by the fireworks display at New Years.
However there is a toll to pay: as of Jan. 3 the current stats:
1 dead and 30 injured from stray bullets.
45 fire incidents (mostly from fireworks).
Hundreds of injuries (including amputations) from firecrackers.
There was even a duel (resulting in a death) after one person was upset because he thought the other threw a firecracker too close to him.[/QUOTE]In years gone by the death toll was much much higher. Including those hit by stray bullets fired by the police!
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1665395]In years gone by the death toll was much much higher. Including those hit by stray bullets fired by the police![/QUOTE]FF is right, the current total injury toll from fireworks this year is 860 down from 1080 last year. Either way it doesn't diminish the potential danger on New Year's Eve.
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Tungurahua. You de man
[QUOTE]Walk from Ermita to Mall of Asia and Baclaran.[/QUOTE]You walked it?! How long did that take? Never thought of doing that, but probable an entertaining way to pass an hour or so. The way the trappic is so bad along Roxas, probably not much longer.
[QUOTE]Saturday I astonish her with what I know.[/QUOTE]Now we are all curious.
[QUOTE]A note to Fellow ISG'ers. To members who like my reports, thank you Key Master, Free2, Redman69, WestCoast1, JoeMailde, Econo Tech, Pcpc1688, Amavida, Ceegee. [/QUOTE]OMG, I feel so good that maybe some of my posts have helped someone else. Seriously, thanks for that man.
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[QUOTE=JPF;1665903]FF is right, the current total injury toll from fireworks this year is 860 down from 1080 last year. Either way it doesn't diminish the potential danger on New Year's Eve.[/QUOTE]But the amputations have increased from last so really not much to be happy about. That and the indiscriminate firing of bullets that killed a girl and other injuries makes New Year a safe place if seen from a hotel. Otherwise avoid IMHO.
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One week of work
I found myself domiciled in Ortigas for a few days of work close to SM Mall. I had a few numbers already lined up and juggled these.
Night 1. A girl whom had made friends with me on FB. We had a limited number of messages, she was quite young (21) and quite pretty. Her FB pics didn't quite display her acne as well as in real life. Anyway, the lights can be turned off. She was quite shy. Only managed a limited BJ and a single pop. She stayed the night but I suggested she leave at 6 am. P1000.
Night 2. Had an initial dinner with a random catch up from a girl from the same arrival flight as me. Incredibly engaging dinner conversation but too straight for me. She is well connected in government circles and I was a little worried about making a wrong move. Hugged and said goodnight. On the way out I texted a Tagged contact whom apparently really was out on her birthday bash and I had promised to let her get drunk on my Tanduay. She had a little bit of a head start before she arrived. Quite pretty and slip. Nice heels on display and watch a few movies togther. 35 years old. She was great in the bed and really let her initial shyness disappear once the lights went out. Stayed for the night, night and morning boom booms, She is a professional lady so wouldn't accept any contribution other than her birthday present of a block of chocolate.
Night 3. Late night date with a lady whom finished her office work at 8 pm. She arrived with a friend. The friend left once they were satisifed I was OK. Good dinner conversation at TGI Fridays. Lots of flirting and departed with a "next time" hug. Home alone. I was happy with the break, having been in the Philippines now for 6 nights of fun filled action. I was happy with a promise for a future visit.
Now off to AC.
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[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1667187]I found myself domiciled in Ortigas for a few days of work close to SM Mall. I had a few numbers already lined up and juggled these.
[/QUOTE]Where did you stay in Ortigas BD?
I assume you meant you stayed close to SM Megamall?
Did you meet the girl in TGIF in Robinson's Galleria?
I was going to PM you but perhaps your answers might be of interest to others here.
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1667482]Where did you stay in Ortigas BD?
I assume you meant you stayed close to SM Megamall?
Did you meet the girl in TGIF in Robinson's Galleria?
I was going to PM you but perhaps your answers might be of interest to others here.[/QUOTE]I stayed at Oakwood Premier in a suite. It is well recommended and was on the company account at about P7000 per night including breakfast. I would / will stay there again. Staff were well trained and venue was good for corporate visitors.
TGIF Robinsons was easy to find and she knew where it was (close to entrance.).
Also I dropped by St Francis mall which was OK for cheap buys, knock offs and iphone repairs.
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[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1667569]I stayed at Oakwood Premier in a suite. It is well recommended and was on the company account at about P7000 per night including breakfast. I would / will stay there again. Staff were well trained and venue was good for corporate visitors.
TGIF Robinsons was easy to find and she knew where it was (close to entrance.).
Also I dropped by St Francis mall which was OK for cheap buys, knock offs and iphone repairs.[/QUOTE]7000 php / night! OMG, I have never in my life spent that to sleep on a mattress!
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Manilacourtisans?
Anyone used Manila Courtesans?
Do the girls offer BBFS or is it all covered?
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3 Year Ordeal
Ordeal Report.
I like writing trip reports, but its been many years since I wrote one. Reason being, I got a case of laziness while finishing up my divorce which led me to settling down as you will see.
I was in the Phils about 4 years ago. I hate Manila traffic and lack of security, so on advice from GE, I spent quite a bit of time in Davao and Cebu while meeting some really cute ladies 18-26 on FC and DIA. I'm mid 50's, but somehow still get a fair amount of interest on FC from young girls even without sending "Hello," emails. I'm also not a pro-monger like many of you (dare to dream!) I like "dating" one or two girls at a time that are drop dead gorgeous and 100% GFE. I'm talking "honey, please come to the province and meet my family!" type GFE. The real deal, or the best act ever: you decide. I also get bored after awhile, even with a 9 or 10. Anyhow.
I had been hanging out in Cebu and Davao every few months with my new FC / DIA girlfriend (s), and trying to meet as many possible hot new prospects as well. My method was, using FC / DIA, to round up about 150 possible girls on YM with phone numbers, then when I got to the cities, I'd start texting to meet up. Cam is a great way to filter out the duds, but to me, face to face meeting is the best technique as amazing personalities can really be seen. Intelligent, articulate ladies are a real turn-on for me. I've met some amazing lookers that had the personality of an oak plank. A real monger would likely kick me off this board for that comment, but I do like that "connection" that can only occur with a smart girl with a sparkling personality. It keeps my little head and big head in the game which is quite a feat at my age. With so many girls, I needed efficiency, so I texted them to meet at the local Starbucks about an hour apart. Even with 150 girls lined up, over the course of my two week stay, I was "only" able to meet about 40 girls. The initial meeting was always over coffee. That gave them a little treat, was cheap for me, and I could graciously bounce after ten minutes if I wasn't interested. I did that a lot as I'm ridiculously picky. My target has to look healthy, with pretty teeth, nice hair, a little make up, decent clothes, and appear psychologically stable (does this exist in females?) Most of the young girls did not make the grade; usually because their teeth were all f**the up or they had bad breath or just didn't look very healthy. Even so, about 8 REALLY stood out, with sparkling personalities, adorable faces and hot bodies. Of these top 8, several just didn't seem all that interested in me, so I didn't push it, and abandoned them. (I hate doing all the work / chasing). 3 seemed very interested. I even banged one of them on the second night (no big deal for you Pros, but its a big deal for me). I think I may have actually banged two of them pretty quickly, but I forget. Thing is, there was one Pretty Little Liar. Oh my, what trouble!
The Liar was age 23, and said she was in Cebu going to school. Her pic was cute, but she looked chubby. I don't like fat chicks, so was going to make her a miss, but every time I signed on to YM, there she was chatting me up before I arrived in the Phils, so she really ended up endearing herself to me over time prior to arrival. Then on arrival, she said she was visiting family for the holidays in the province, but would take the bus to come see me. Ten hours bus ride! As my previously outlined strategy was to meet for a 5 minute coffee and then kick most of the girls to the curb, I just could NOT bear the thought of this sweet pinay taking a grueling 10 hour bus ride, only for me to say "cya" after 5 minutes, so I declined to meet. She acted very sad. I went about my daily dating and carousing, and was getting ready to leave the Phils after my two week stay, when the Liar comes on YM and says: "I hope you won't' be mad at me, but I didn't tell you the truth". I said "please fill me in". She proceeded to tell me that she hadn't been to Cebu in many years and that she lived in her province. This really pissed me off, at myself, because I felt I had been really good at filtering out any girls that were not actually in Cebu or Davao, as I hate wasting my time with girls that can't readily meet on arrival. Then she dropped the bomb, saying: "Oh, I was married to an American, now divorced, and I have a US residency card. " OMG! I had to meet this girl! The thought of having my very own pinay girl-toy without coming to the Phils was amazingly enticing! As you all know, no cute little monger-bait like this from a third world country would ever be allowed in the US without a fiance visa, unless she owns property and has a fat bank account (or a parent living in the US), which Liar did not. She said she was planning on flying to Manila, on her way to visit a distant relative in the USA, the next day, which just so happened to be the same day as I was flying to manila too! I was ecstatic as we made plans to meet at the airport.
The next day, I flew from Davao to Manila and waited for her text. Nothing. I went online. No Pretty Little Liar. Hmm. I had no options, so I caught my flight back to the states and resumed my sordid life in the sex prison that is the USA. 2 weeks went by. Then I got a missed call from the same area code as Liar's relative. Could it be? I called the phone number in my phone. Liar answered! She had made it to the USA and wanted to meet, but she was 2000 miles away from me! SIGH. What to do? I offered to buy her an airline ticket to come meet me. No go. She was too shy and scared, but wanted me to come see her. Ugh, I made strict rules to never do something like this. I kicked myself for not making her come to Davao to meet me when I had had the opportunity. Obviously nice guys finish last. I was now making plans to go fly across the USA to meet a girl for coffee and probably dump her in 5 minutes. What an expensive waste of time and money. I couldn't stop myself though as the curiosity of what she was really like was killing me. I made arrangements, and got on YM. She said:"When are you coming to see me?" I replied, "Next week". Now it was her turn to be excited and curious.
I boarded the plane and flew very far away to a small hick town with a surprisingly nice airport. I had switched planes previously at a large central airport, and landed at almost midnight in Hicktown USA. The 5 other passengers on the plane, disembarked, got in their cars next to the terminal, and left. The two airport staff members locked the terminal door, leaving me standing alone, outside, in the cold, under a street light, in the middle of nowhere. I texted Liar "I'm here!" She texted back "OK, my family and I are coming to get you!" GULP! The family?! I was hoping she would take a cab, but no. I get to meet the family, but what if Liar is a fat ugly hag? Where is my exit? I was in a serious jam. I thought about praying but figured God would punish me if I did. So I waited, nervously, alone, in the dark, without another soul in sight, under my streetlight. I felt like I was in a horror movie. All I needed was creepy music.
After about twenty minutes, off in the distance, I could see a pair of headlights slowly navigating its way down the long road that leads up to the airport. My heart was pounding. A car pulled up opposite me and stopped. A young, slim, ravishingly gorgeous young lady got out of the car, with a big beautiful sexy smile and long flowing black hair, wearing tight white jeans, black heels and a short gossamer top flowing in the breeze. It was Liar! She gave me a hug and I melted. She was a "dime", 10/10, one of the most beautiful girls I'd ever seen, straight out of a magazine. I could see in her eyes that she was not disappointed either. Lucky me as I'm no stranger to getting passed on. I got to savor this moment for literally 5 seconds as her American family friend (the driver) came around the car to eye me up and down, while Liar disappeared into the back seat of the car and out of view. "American Friend" was my age but much bigger than I am (I'm not tall at all). He looked like a cop. He requested that I sit in the front seat with him. I didn't argue. He asked what hotel I was staying at. I told him, and we set off driving. On our way to the hotel, American Friend and cousins in the back seat politely, but sternly grilled me on my background, job, intentions, etc. I could see that the American Friend wasn't happy I was getting Pretty Little Liar. He wanted her; that was obvious. Then we arrived at my hotel. Thank God!
I got out of the car. American friend eyed me up and down one last time, helped unload my luggage, and shook my hand. Liar got out of the car, grabbed her bag and stood there, next to me, looking as beautiful as ever, while we watched her family and American friend drive off. I was stunned. I really didn't know how this was going to play out, but I really did not expect Liar to stay with me like this. Needless to say I did not complain. I checked into the hotel, at which point Liar and I went into our room. It was very Spartan with one bed (YES!) It didn't seem to bother Liar at all as she was still all smiles, but acted the little shy pinay, as so many of them do. I tried to strike up a conversation, but all she said was "wait, I need to shower". SIGH! Again, she disappeared. Half an hour later she came out without makeup and just wearing some cute shorts and a tight T-shirt. She was still adorable, and still smiling like a little flirt. She turned on the TV at the foot of the bed, and laid down, on her back, on the bed. I laid down next to her, very close, lightly touching. She gave me a cute little smirk and pulled away about 3 inches. I thought "Oh really? I play this game better than anyone!" I moved as far away from her as possible on the bed, and pretended to watch TV and ignore her. Out of the corner of my eye I could see her throw me a cute little pout. Then she cracked a big grin, rolled over next to me, and (I kid you not!) said "Want to have sex?" Guess what I said? (and did) ha! Jackpot!
We spent the week like that, waking up late, banging a few times per day, getting to know each other, eating out, and otherwise doing nothing in particular. What a honeymoon it was! It turned out that her family in the Phils had basically thrown her out, which meant back to the USA to preserve her residency privileges. One family's trash is another man's treasure, right? This was too good to be true, so I invited her home with me. She accepted, flew back with me, and we've been together for 4 years now.
She is a good person, and we rarely fight. She accepts the fact that, after my multiple marriages, I'll never marry again, and I don't want any more kids. She thinks of herself as a "gold digger," if you want to consider her polite requests for $3 lotion at Walmart as gold digging. I don't mind at all. She asks for a lot of little things, all inexpensive, and she is always polite. She always dresses to the 9's, is totally hot, and looks about 15 like most pinays her real age of 27. I love seeing the expressions of the guys and gals my age at the market, looking at us, as we walk along the aisles, and Liar hangs all over me. I can see the guys thinking "where the F** did I go wrong in my life?" While all their wives are looking at me thinking: "dirty old creep!" I can't help but smile all time. Unfortunately, all good things come to an end, and I have to dump my Pretty Little Liar.
I'm bored. While she does a fair job keeping the house clean, sometimes cooks, and always looks hot, the sex is just. Yawn. Either I'm unattractive to her or she just doesn't like sex that much or both. She is so affectionate, but it stops there as there is just no passion in the sex. There really never was. It was just. sex. I don't even really enjoy the sex anymore. Its always the same routine: About once a week she'll come up to me, grab my cock and say "lets have sex". There is always a little doggy, a little mish, she moans and wiggles a little, I'm not sure she O's or not. She says she does, but I don't believe it. There is a little kissing, but no passionate DFK. I feel as if she might be doing it just to make me happy. I miss the pinays that demand cock, and seem to totally love sex while screaming and moan "I love you" at the top of their lungs even though you met them two hours ago. Fake or not, that level of passion makes me perform and enjoy! I don't get any of this with Liar, so my life doesn't have any meaning anymore. This needs to change.
When Liar comes home next month (she's on vacay with friends texting every 5 minutes how much she loves and misses me), I'm going to sit down, and explain that she needs a real life, a real husband, and a real family, because that will make her happy, but I can't give that to her. I will also tell her that I'm not happy and need to move on. I guess all good things do need to come to an end, but I'm ready for the next level. I want to be more of a monger!
So, here are a couple questions for you Pros:
1) I like really hot girls with real GFE (lets call her Miss 10 GFE). Do you guys think I can go to Burgos or EDSA and find a really hot provider that will give real GFE? Or do they all know they're hot and feel like they don't need to perform?
2) I'm only going for about two weeks or so, and would like to have just one really amazing girl for the week, LT every night. I'm willing to pay what you guys have outlined as typical Burgos / EDSA barfines, but is there some way that after the first night I can avoid barfining her every night? I don't mind richly rewarding Miss 10 GFE, but I don't want to waste it on the bar if I don't have to.
3) Any other strategies to find Miss 10 GFE are greatly appreciated. Please keep in mind that I only barfined a girl once in Thailand 15 years ago, and then stayed with her for the week, so I'm a noob at this. All the rest have been DIA / FC girls introducing me to the family.
Cheers!
Aimless
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[QUOTE=Free2;1668314]7000 php / night! OMG, I have never in my life spent that to sleep on a mattress![/QUOTE]Oh, sorry to hear that. Hope things improve for you soon.
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[QUOTE=Aimless;1668494]... and appear psychologically stable (does this exist in females?) ...[/QUOTE]Haha, no never!
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Escorts
[QUOTE=LOLWTFBBGirl;1668324]Anyone used Manila Courtesans?
Do the girls offer BBFS or is it all covered?[/QUOTE]It is all covered. But if you grease the skids with more peso, they might flex. Overall I was NOT happy with the quality of the girls. You are better going to Havana or LA Cafe as you get to check the girls out first. You don't know what you are getting from escorts until they arrive. They are often fatter than pics else smoke, else dirty etc. Never felt they were clean or top quality girls.
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[QUOTE=Aimless;1668494]So, here are a couple questions for you Pros:
1) I like really hot girls with real GFE (lets call her Miss 10 GFE). Do you guys think I can go to Burgos or EDSA and find a really hot provider that will give real GFE? Or do they all know they're hot and feel like they don't need to perform?
2) I'm only going for about two weeks or so, and would like to have just one really amazing girl for the week, LT every night. I'm willing to pay what you guys have outlined as typical Burgos / EDSA barfines, but is there some way that after the first night I can avoid barfining her every night? I don't mind richly rewarding Miss 10 GFE, but I don't want to waste it on the bar if I don't have to.
3) Any other strategies to find Miss 10 GFE are greatly appreciated. Please keep in mind that I only barfined a girl once in Thailand 15 years ago, and then stayed with her for the week, so I'm a noob at this. All the rest have been DIA / FC girls introducing me to the family.
Cheers!
Aimless[/QUOTE]First of all, thank you for your report.
There are 10's GFE (although the definition of 10 is quite individual).
IMHO Burgos or EDSA are more a pro areas, but hey, it's the Philippines, should be possible to find a 'Miss 10 GFE".
They all like to introducing you to their family, grabbing a 'rich' foreigner is the jackpot! They do and told everthing to not miss the chance.
Don't miss the good old Ermita area, if you did not sit in LA-Cafe for a couple of hours, you really miss some very interesting experiences.
Not as exciting as 20 years ago, but definitely worth seeing.
But I personally think dating sites are more promising for real GFE's.
Happy hunting!
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[QUOTE=Aimless;1668494]Ordeal Report.[/QUOTE]One question Aimless.
Not to defend your lady but why after 3 years is she still Liar to you? All her lies were revealed and dealt with in the first week of actually meeting her in person, then, knowing that you bought the merchandise. Now its 3 years later and she hasn't been milking you like a cow, in. Be thankful her family disowned her or they will be collectively badgering you by proxy for money through her -life could be much worse. A pinay orphan is a blessing in disguise unless you have a license to print currency, be thankful at least. Also she didn't balloon up to porker size on a western diet. You avoided all the pitfalls so maybe its not her.
I think you are just realizing that monogamy is boring as hell, pinay or whoever. Wild exciting domesticated home country sex with a live in wife / GF whatever you call her does not exist for any regular poster on this board for the long term otherwise we wouldn't be going to the Phils.
If you think you can go back there and find something better long term to bring back home, well you hit the Three 7's and are not happy so maybe you should consider adjusting your expectations.
That's my opinion as someone who never actually tried monogamy because I knew it wasn't for me.
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[QUOTE=Aimless;1668494]Ordeal Report.
I like writing trip reports, but its been many years since I wrote one. Reason being, I got a case of laziness while finishing up my divorce which led me to settling down as you will see.
I. Thing is, there was one Pretty Little Liar. Oh my, what trouble!
Cheers!
Aimless[/QUOTE]Fabulous story. We all pretend to be wonderful mongers here, and possibly some are true to their word, but I think for many of us we also make interesting errors from time to time, that we probably don't report. Congrats on a great report and a good dose of reality and honesty!
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[QUOTE=Aimless;1668494]I also get bored after awhile, even with a 9 or 10.[/QUOTE]Monogamy breeds monotony.
[QUOTE=Aimless;1668494] Intelligent, articulate ladies are a real turn-on for me. ........ I do like that "connection" that can only occur with a smart girl with a sparkling personality.[/QUOTE]So you want to give this up for a few weeks of Burgos mongering?
[QUOTE=Aimless;1668494] Even with 150 girls lined up, over the course of my two week stay, I was "only" able to meet about 40 girls.[/QUOTE]And you say you are not a mongerer! Some (not me) like P4 P, find a girl in the bar or in the street, hit and run. Others of us like the fishing experience; casting through dating web sites, setting the right bait to get a strike, then playing, landing. Sometimes it is catch and release, sometimes it can be catch and keep. And sometimes it is catch, keep, but still do more fishing-mongering.
[QUOTE=Aimless;1668494] "Oh, I was married to an American, now divorced, and I have a US residency card. " OMG! I had to meet this girl! The thought of having my very own pinay girl-toy without coming to the Phils was amazingly enticing! [/QUOTE]So you want to throw this away for a dalliance on Burgos Street?
[QUOTE=Aimless;1668494] Then she cracked a big grin, rolled over next to me, and (I kid you not!) said "Want to have sex?" Guess what I said? (and did) ha! Jackpot! [/QUOTE]You lucky man. It was worth the chase.
[QUOTE=Aimless;1668494]I invited her home with me. She accepted, flew back with me, and we've been together for 4 years now. She is a good person, and we rarely fight. She accepts the fact that, after my multiple marriages, I'll never marry again, and I don't want any more kids. [/QUOTE]Like a number of us, we have learnt that lesson and never to marry again -until some of us, not me, again succumb.
[QUOTE=Aimless;1668494]She always dresses to the 9's, is totally hot, and looks about 15 like most pinays her real age of 27. I love seeing the expressions of the guys and gals my age at the market, looking at us, as we walk along the aisles, and Liar hangs all over me. I can see the guys thinking "where the F** did I go wrong in my life?" While all their wives are looking at me thinking: "dirty old creep!" I can't help but smile all time. [/QUOTE]Lucky man!
[QUOTE=Aimless;1668494]I'm bored. While she does a fair job keeping the house clean, sometimes cooks, and always looks hot, the sex is just. Yawn. Either I'm unattractive to her or she just doesn't like sex that much or both. She is so affectionate, but it stops there as there is just no passion in the sex. There really never was. It was just. sex. I don't even really enjoy the sex anymore. Its always the same routine: About once a week she'll come up to me, grab my cock and say "lets have sex". There is always a little doggy, a little mish, she moans and wiggles a little, I'm not sure she O's or not. She says she does, but I don't believe it. There is a little kissing, but no passionate DFK. I feel as if she might be doing it just to make me happy.[/QUOTE]Yes it seems you are the problem. But do you really want to throw out your baby with the bathwater?
[QUOTE=Aimless;1668494]When Liar comes home next month (she's on vacay with friends texting every 5 minutes how much she loves and misses me), I'm going to sit down, and explain that she needs a real life, a real husband, and a real family, because that will make her happy, but I can't give that to her. I will also tell her that I'm not happy and need to move on. I guess all good things do need to come to an end, but I'm ready for the next level. I want to be more of a monger! [/QUOTE]So without throwing your baby out why don't you have your own vacations. Manila or anywhere, and come back to the stability of a hot young Filipina who loves you and keeps inviting you to have sex.
[QUOTE=Aimless;1668494]So, here are a couple questions for you Pros:
[/QUOTE]Gez, I have seen those questions addressed time and time again in the Manila and Makati forums.
RTFF.
Are you for real?
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[QUOTE=Aimless;1668494]
So, here are a couple questions for you Pros:
1) I like really hot girls with real GFE (lets call her Miss 10 GFE). Do you guys think I can go to Burgos or EDSA and find a really hot provider that will give real GFE? Or do they all know they're hot and feel like they don't need to perform?
2) I'm only going for about two weeks or so, and would like to have just one really amazing girl for the week, LT every night. I'm willing to pay what you guys have outlined as typical Burgos / EDSA barfines, but is there some way that after the first night I can avoid barfining her every night? I don't mind richly rewarding Miss 10 GFE, but I don't want to waste it on the bar if I don't have to.
3) Any other strategies to find Miss 10 GFE are greatly appreciated. Please keep in mind that I only barfined a girl once in Thailand 15 years ago, and then stayed with her for the week, so I'm a noob at this. All the rest have been DIA / FC girls introducing me to the family.
[/QUOTE]You have already answered your own questions in your long meandering narrative, because you have highlighted the hoary old Forrest Gump chocolate box dilemma in that "you never know what you will get" and yet you seek what seems to be definitive answers.
I believe you ask questions for which there are no answers, so here's my take:
Q1. Maybe you will and maybe you won't.
Q2. Pass.
Q3. The number of strategies is endless. You have tried many of them before with what you call limited success because you are difficult to satisfy.
Work your way through those strategies you haven't tried, but you will need more than 2 weeks. Or maybe you will find what you want on the first night. Or the second. . . ?
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[QUOTE=Aimless;1668494]Ordeal Report.
1) I like really hot girls with real GFE (lets call her Miss 10 GFE). Do you guys think I can go to Burgos or EDSA and find a really hot provider that will give real GFE? Or do they all know they're hot and feel like they don't need to perform?
2) I'm only going for about two weeks or so, and would like to have just one really amazing girl for the week, LT every night. I'm willing to pay what you guys have outlined as typical Burgos / EDSA barfines, but is there some way that after the first night I can avoid barfining her every night? I don't mind richly rewarding Miss 10 GFE, but I don't want to waste it on the bar if I don't have to.
3) Any other strategies to find Miss 10 GFE are greatly appreciated. Please keep in mind that I only barfined a girl once in Thailand 15 years ago, and then stayed with her for the week, so I'm a noob at this. All the rest have been DIA / FC girls introducing me to the family.
Aimless[/QUOTE]That's one of the more entertaining and unusual reports I've read herein, and I'm sure it will elicit multiple responses. On the subject of continuing the relationship, it's my opinion that only you can decide what's right for you. If you're not getting the fulfillment you crave, and if you feel there's no chance in things improving, then I don't blame you for wanting out.
As to your first question about finding a "really hot provider that will give real GFE," my answer is a qualified yes. Given that assessments of beauty are strictly subjective, I can't state with any certainty that you will find someone who meets whatever your "10" criteria are. However, given the huge aggregate number of bars between Burgos and Edsa, and the hundreds of young women on display, I think the odds are in your favor. Finding someone who will provide GFE is close to a certainty; particularly if you explain that you're looking to remain with someone for a number of consecutive days. I think you'll also find that many girls will happily agree to remain absent from the bar for the duration of your relationship, and thus you will be able to avoid paying several nights of barfines. You might also want to consider befriending the mammasans in bars that appeal to you--buying them a drink is a good start--and then letting them introduce you to girls whom they think will meet your requirements.
Another strategy you might want to consider is expanding the pool of candidates by taking 2-3 days of your trip and going to Angeles, finding a SWT whose company you enjoy, and then bringing her back with you to Manila. You can always send her back toward the end of your trip as there are lots of buses.
The problem you may have is finding someone with whom you can have engaging, interesting conversations. For me, that represents the recurrent drawback of all of those places. Remember, you'll be meeting ladies who, for the most part, have limited educations, limited life experience beyond the bars and life in the provinces, limited intellectual interests, and often limited English language skills. I know all of us have different "fun" criteria, but for me, maintaining a semblance of interest in the usual bar girl drivel is virtually impossible at this stage of my life. I've got a few friends here who, during their intermittent visits, like to find (and) keep girls with them, and I often inquire what they do to pass the time once the sex is over and before it begins again. I've yet to receive an answer I can relate to.
GE.
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[QUOTE=Aimless;1668494]Ordeal Report.
[/QUOTE]Aimless, it's said the most important sex organ is the brain. Let your imagination and your fantasies run free. Sounds to me you have a near perfect woman who aims to make you happy, so have a talk with her about spicing things up. She may very well have a kink or twelve she wishes to explore. And if she is as gorgeous as you write I reckon there are plenty of swinger groups that would love for you to join them. Just a thought.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1668830]Aimless, it's said the most important sex organ is the brain. Let your imagination and your fantasies run free. Sounds to me you have a near perfect woman who aims to make you happy, so have a talk with her about spicing things up. She may very well have a kink or twelve that she wishes to explore. And if she is as gorgeous as you write I reckon there are plenty of swinger groups that would love for you to join them. Just a thought.[/QUOTE]You're right Hutsori, and I appreciate your input. While I'm not into the group or swap thing, I'm definitely going to sit down with her and see if we can work through this to mutual benefit, although I have explored her kinkiness limits, a little. She just isn't that into it.
Cheers,
Aimless
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[QUOTE=Pantot;1668767]One question Aimless.
Not to defend your lady but why after 3 years is she still Liar to you? All her lies were revealed and dealt with in the first week of actually meeting her in person, then, knowing that you bought the merchandise. Now its 3 years later and she hasn't been milking you like a cow, in. Be thankful her family disowned her or they will be collectively badgering you by proxy for money through her -life could be much worse. A pinay orphan is a blessing in disguise unless you have a license to print currency, be thankful at least. Also she didn't balloon up to porker size on a western diet. You avoided all the pitfalls so maybe its not her.
I think you are just realizing that monogamy is boring as hell, pinay or whoever. Wild exciting domesticated home country sex with a live in wife / GF whatever you call her does not exist for any regular poster on this board for the long term otherwise we wouldn't be going to the Phils.
If you think you can go back there and find something better long term to bring back home, well you hit the Three 7's and are not happy so maybe you should consider adjusting your expectations.
That's my opinion as someone who never actually tried monogamy because I knew it wasn't for me.[/QUOTE]Got to say I agree with the above. You are just bored. That is marriage for men like us. Have you tried swinging? You said you are not into it. It is as close as you can get to mongering. With your girl you will settle for less but it will be new to you. I would go to thailand and not take her. Or even RP. Man you go it made with this. I would not push her out the door. How many men are still married to the girl they got prego? Shit enjoy it while it last. Just do what you want and go home to the live in free sex. I envy you!
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1668773]Fabulous story. We all pretend to be wonderful mongers here, and possibly some are true to their word, but I think for many of us we also make interesting errors from time to time, that we probably don't report. Congrats on a great report and a good dose of reality and honesty![/QUOTE]Do agree with you too.
Entertaining report by Aimless!
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The Pope scheduled to touch down 5 pm. What a mess trying to het a cab at the airport this afternoon. Four-day holiday is being declared, not everything closed, hopefully not any of the good things.
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[QUOTE=Aimless;1668494]I thought about praying but figured God would punish me if I did. [/QUOTE]So you are God fearing. I understand why Pinays love you, LOL!
Thanks for the wonderful story!
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[QUOTE=Golfinho;1669240]The Pope scheduled to touch down 5 pm. What a mess trying to het a cab at the airport this afternoon. Four-day holiday is being declared, not everything closed, hopefully not any of the good things.[/QUOTE]LA Cafe yesterday. Things are pretty normal, not so much girls due transport trouble.
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Things going to go back to normal in Ermita. I see cars on Roxas, also Pedicaps and trike in the Rizal area.
Here a pic from P. Faura (G Point Bar is here) in front of Robinsons, pretty empty.
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[QUOTE=Golfinho;1669240]The Pope scheduled to touch down 5 pm. What a mess trying to het a cab at the airport this afternoon. Four-day holiday is being declared, not everything closed, hopefully not any of the good things.[/QUOTE]Yep, lots of FRs on this all advising to avoid Manila if you can.
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Papal predicaments
[QUOTE=JoeMailde;1669700]Things going to go back to normal in Ermita. I see cars on Roxas, also Pedicaps and trike in the Rizal area.
Here a pic from P. Faura (G Point Bar is here) in front of Robinsons, pretty empty.[/QUOTE]Things won't go back to "normal" until around Monday afternoon Joe.
The Pope is staying at the Apostolic Nunciature (the Vatican Mission) which is along Taft Avenue, so to get there he travels in a motorcade via Roxas Boulevard from the airport.
Even with his trip to Tacloban on Saturday he is still coming back to Manila to stay Saturday night so it will all be closed again.
Sunday there is predicted to be 6 million (yes. 6 million) people at the Quirino Granstand / Rizal Park area which means if I was anywhere near Pasay, Ermita or Malate I would be packing up and moving out.
Don't even think about getting taxis etc anywhere in that area on Sunday or planning to get to or from Malate to Makati.
Apart from all the roads being closed, how do you handle 6 million people in a few city blocks? (it's a rhetorical question; please don't answer).
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1669870]Things won't go back to "normal" until around Monday afternoon Joe.
The Pope is staying at the Apostolic Nunciature (the Vatican Mission) which is along Taft Avenue, so to get there he travels in a motorcade via Roxas Boulevard from the airport.
Even with his trip to Tacloban on Saturday he is still coming back to Manila to stay Saturday night so it will all be closed again.
Sunday there is predicted to be 6 million (yes. 6 million) people at the Quirino Granstand / Rizal Park area which means if I was anywhere near Pasay, Ermita or Malate I would be packing up and moving out.
Don't even think about getting taxis etc anywhere in that area on Sunday or planning to get to or from Malate to Makati.
Apart from all the roads being closed, how do you handle 6 million people in a few city blocks? (it's a rhetorical question; please don't answer).[/QUOTE]Yikes. Hopefully there will be some horizontal stacking.
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[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1669769]Yep, lots of FRs on this all advising to avoid Manila if you can.[/QUOTE]Damn, so Pope Frank will be able to cherry pick among all the hot talent, while we just wait for him to leave!
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[quote]"I'm bored. While she does a fair job keeping the house clean, sometimes cooks, and always looks hot, the sex is just. Yawn. Either I'm unattractive to her or she just doesn't like sex that much or both. She is so affectionate, but it stops there as there is just no passion in the sex. There really never was. It was just. Sex. I don't even really enjoy the sex anymore. Its always the same routine: About once a week she'll come up to me, grab my cock and say "lets have sex". There is always a little doggy, a little mish, she moans and wiggles a little, I'm not sure she O's or not. She says she does, but I don't believe it. There is a little kissing, but no passionate DFK. I feel as if she might be doing it just to make me happy. I miss the pinays that demand cock, and seem to totally love sex while screaming and moan "I love you" at the top of their lungs even though you met them two hours ago. Fake or not, that level of passion makes me perform and enjoy! I don't get any of this with Liar, so my life doesn't have any meaning anymore. This needs to change. ".[/quote]Aimless:
Having once been married for a long time myself, what else can you expect. Unless, the girl is at your level intellectually, where you get into a heated debate about whether the US should have let Texas go in 1869, when they filed for secession. Or if deporting the dreamers (latest idiot House GOP move), you are not going to have that great of a time. On the other hand, she seems to have let you be. That are not many women out there, who will simply let you be? Is there? As someone to keep your house, she seems to be a "find". I agree with some of the people here. Sounds like you are just bored. You want variety. A mixed box of chocolates. One way of tackling this is tell her, you want to date other women. I haven't met a woman more open minded than a Filipina!
So, don't shack up!
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To all that commented on my Ordeal Report, thanks so much for the feedback. The general consensus appears to be that I'm just bored, which is 100% correct. In the wise words of "Donkey" in the movie Shrek: "Everybody like parfait"; just not for every meal, every day, forever.
To those that offered advice, especially GE, thank you for your pearls of wisdom, seriously. I'm def going to buy some mamasans some drinks.
I really wish I could swing or cheat. I just can't. I think the correct label for my type is "Serial monogamist". At times "Serial Bigamist" might be appropriate too.
Why does playing with girls have to be so much fun? It has to be the most time consuming and expensive addiction there is, except for maybe gambling, but YMMV.
Cheers!
Aimless
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[QUOTE=Aimless;1670495]To all that commented on my Ordeal Report, thanks so much for the feedback. The general consensus appears to be that I'm just bored, which is 100% correct. SNIP. I really wish I could swing or cheat. I just can't. [/QUOTE]Have you tried to get her to explore her sexuality with other girls? Even if she's not bi-sexual she might be open to letting another girl play with her or open for a 3 some, many Pinays are and many will allow it just to keep her man happy. One of the benefits of a 3 some is that you get to satisfy the urge for something different.
If you haven't done so already, you may also try to spice things up via role playing, sexy costumes / lingerie or with adult toys.
To me it sounds like you've got a pretty good thing going with your GF. Maybe even get her slightly drunk one night to get her to open up and simply talk to her about sexual fantasies, expectations, desires, etc; perhaps they're not being met?
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[QUOTE=CoolTraveler;1669990]Aimless:
One way of tackling this is tell her, you want to date other women. I haven't met a woman more open minded than a Filipina!
So, don't shack up![/QUOTE]I think we all gravitate to a certain psychological profile of woman. In my case, I always find the devoted, dependent, totally gorgeous monogamist, and not shacking up is never an option with the way I structure our relationship. I like my girl around to bang on a moment's notice.
My GF and I have had chats on skype recently as she is still away from home. She has said that she doesn't get enough attention from me which pisses her off and makes her less interested in passionate sex. In addition, I still text / skype a few of my Pinay ex's that have new BF's and are near marriage. My GF gets insanely jealous, even when I'm giving relationship advice to my ex's with my GF looking over my shoulder. I simply don't have the time or desire to dote on my GF as much as she wants. I really think my GF would simply get pissed and leave if I brought up anything along the lines of an "open relationship". If I leave her alone in public she gets random 18-40 year old guys following her around asking for her cell #, so it certainly wouldn't take her long to find a way out of our relationship, except it would get really ugly as our entangled lives unwind.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1668773]Fabulous story. We all pretend to be wonderful mongers here, and possibly some are true to their word, but I think for many of us we also make interesting errors from time to time, that we probably don't report. Congrats on a great report and a good dose of reality and honesty![/QUOTE]For me, reports are as much about what went wrong as what went right. This is how we learn.
I'm back in Manila next month and I hope to make many more mistakes!
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[QUOTE=Aimless;1670877]I think we all gravitate to a certain psychological profile of woman. In my case, I always find the devoted, dependent, totally gorgeous monogamist, and not shacking up is never an option with the way I structure our relationship. I like my girl around to bang on a moment's notice.
My GF and I have had chats on skype recently as she is still away from home. She has said that she doesn't get enough attention from me which pisses her off and makes her less interested in passionate sex. In addition, I still text / skype a few of my Pinay ex's that have new BF's and are near marriage. My GF gets insanely jealous, even when I'm giving relationship advice to my ex's with my GF looking over my shoulder. I simply don't have the time or desire to dote on my GF as much as she wants. I really think my GF would simply get pissed and leave if I brought up anything along the lines of an "open relationship". If I leave her alone in public she gets random 18-40 year old guys following her around asking for her cell #, so it certainly wouldn't take her long to find a way out of our relationship, except it would get really ugly as our entangled lives unwind.[/QUOTE]Let's get real here. If you want information and advice on mongering, this site is the place to get it. But if you're seeking relationship advice, the last place you want to go is a website whose members by and large reject the notion of having a committed relationship. Perhaps a letter to Ann Landers may be in order. LOL.
RG.
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[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1671332]Let's get real here. If you want information and advice on mongering, this site is the place to get it. But if you're seeking relationship advice, the last place you want to go is a website whose members by and large reject the notion of having a committed relationship. Perhaps a letter to Ann Landers may be in order. LOL.
RG.[/QUOTE]LOL you guys are killing me tonight LOLOLOL!
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Aimless's situation
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1671332]Let's get real here. If you want information and advice on mongering, this site is the place to get it. But if you're seeking relationship advice, the last place you want to go is a website whose members by and large reject the notion of having a committed relationship. Perhaps a letter to Ann Landers may be in order. LOL.
RG.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with this comment. Most of the guys here who read about your woes are thinking, "how can I get this chick if Aimless dumps her"? After all, she is a beautiful female, and she is sexualy submissive, if your description of her is to be believed. Our advice is not likely to be helpful, unless you are looking for one of us to take her off your hands.
I am not certain about Ann Landers vs another columnist, but (unfortunately) may of our members would be delighted to serve as jury for a real fight between these protagonists.
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[QUOTE=Forest;1671465]I have to agree with this comment. Most of the guys here who read about your woes are thinking, "how can I get this chick if Aimless dumps her"? After all, she is a beautiful female, and she is sexualy submissive, if your description of her is to be believed. Our advice is not likely to be helpful, unless you are looking for one of us to take her off your hands.
I am not certain about Ann Landers vs another columnist, but (unfortunately) may of our members would be delighted to serve as jury for a real fight between these protagonists.[/QUOTE]Relationship advice request? Better RTFF. It was a long term FR. Suggestions were offered by others, and are appreciated. The only advice requested was how to find the P4 P provider that suites my needs: hardly a request for relationship advice unless you consider a 1 week P4P GFE a relationship.
Cheers,
Aimless
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[QUOTE=Mogwai;1669262]So you are God fearing. I understand why Pinays love you, LOL!
Thanks for the wonderful story![/QUOTE]Word! I actually vacillate between agnostic and atheist, but WTF is up with all these "God fearing" pinays? I love chatting on line with them, and when I want to manipulate them into seeing me I'll add something like "I'm sure God would want it" and "Bless you". I'll often hit them up early with "when I come visit, would you invite me to meet your family and go to church with you?" They suck that sh*t up like candy! All I can say is "Thank God for God fearing Pinays! Almost makes me a true believer. Almost. Nah.
Cheers,
Aimless
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Edsa
I really liked EDSA. Went two nights in a row. My takeways.
1. Get there early (10 PM), on busy nights (I remember in Cottons) Japanese take a table upstairs and select a bunch of girls to theirs. Once a girl is busy having drinks with them you won't be able to get her over.
2. Bar fine is quoted at 1950 as non-negotiable, yes you can negotiate it down (got it down to 1800) but could be even less on a slower night.
3. Tips for girls negotiated upfront are negotiable. They quote 3 K ST and 5 K LT, get them much lower.
4. Heard this from 2 girls on separate nights (one of them after I got her in the hotel room), and not sure if it's true but they told me that if they get BF-ed then then cannot take day off next day. This makes some girls not want to be BF-ed. It's either stupid policy, or designed to drive your interest up in a girl who isn't available. Don't fall for it by spending or offering more money. Remember there are plenty of other girls available.
Finally. My overall impression of ESDA and Burgos street, overall quality is 6, up to 8, didn't really see anyone I thought were 9 or 10's. I also didn't like it most girls have flat butts (though there are some with big asses and chunky ones too). I haven't been but heard that top ones are in top KTV's and places like AF1 and AEN. I was about to go to La La Land, after reading good reports about the place and after taxi driver handed me a card with FM's name Mhel (female FM). I was about to go but got turned off by reading other reports of rip-off and weird pricing structure. Ideally you find somebody local or an expac to show you around these places.
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[QUOTE=Aimless;1671626]Word! I actually vacillate between agnostic and atheist, but WTF is up with all these "God fearing" pinays?
Cheers,
Aimless[/QUOTE]About 1,000 years ago back in the days of Myspace, or maybe even ICQ, probably one girl wrote " I am god fearing" Her sister saw it so put it on her page too. Then the cousin did same, then Auntie Princess etc and now its a national emblem.
Along with " accept me for what I am and what I have ".
And some blah blah about " my personality is mine and my attitude depends on you".
They all copy each others profiles endlessly.
So yeah, milk the god fearing thing. I think many mongers veer to aetheisim and agnosticism but for sure, we share godly stories with the girls when it serves our purpose.
If you ever want to mess with a Filipina ask her serious stuff about god, who is god and why does she believe in a concept that's never been proven (and no offence to the believers here). In the end, she will say its because its what her parents told her.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1671914]
If you ever want to mess with a Filipina ask her serious stuff about god, who is god and why does she believe in a concept that's never been proven (and no offence to the believers here). In the end, she will say its because its what her parents told her.[/QUOTE]Many years ago when I was chatting with a Pinay on Yahoo Messenger (remember YM?) she made remarks like 'God is good' and 'I am God fearing'.
I asked her 'If God is good then why do you fear him?
Confronted with such a 'blasphemic' question she didn't know what to say and she even got a little bit angry and said 'What are you? A priest?' LOL!
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[QUOTE=SeanEZ;1671879]I really liked EDSA. Went two nights in a row. My takeways.
4. Heard this from 2 girls on separate nights (one of them after I got her in the hotel room), and not sure if it's true but they told me that if they get BF-ed then then cannot take day off next day. This makes some girls not want to be BF-ed. It's either stupid policy, or designed to drive your interest up in a girl who isn't available. Don't fall for it by spending or offering more money. Remember there are plenty of other girls available.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great info Sean. Can you please clarify the above statement you made? It sounds like the day after you BF her, she must show up to work and cannot take the day off? If that were the case, it would make good business sense for the bar so that guys that just BF'd a girl cannot keep her an extra day without another BF (which is what I would sure do!) You then say that it would drive up your interest? I'm a little confused as that sounds like they are either off work or not allowed to be barfined? I'm seriously thinking about graduating from F4P on DIA / FC to P4P on Burgos / EDSA so I can avoid all the drama / jealousy that goes with the F P scene, so I appreciate the advice.
Cheers!
Aimless
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1671914]About 1,000 years ago back in the days of Myspace, or maybe even ICQ, probably one girl wrote " I am god fearing" Her sister saw it so put it on her page too. Then the cousin did same, then Auntie Princess etc and now its a national emblem..[/QUOTE]I have silly issues with their "God Fearing" attitude.
I am not so handsome and often, girls will not show positive response, and when I get a bit bored I just tell them "is it because I am not handsome and attractive that you are not so responsive. ?
The answer? "Don't ever say that, all are beautiful in God's eyes.".
Then that doesn't mean that the decision to not meet me changes.
Hypocrites? LOL.
You live and learn.
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[QUOTE=Aimless;1671982]Thanks for the great info Sean. Can you please clarify the above statement you made? It sounds like the day after you BF her, she must show up to work and cannot take the day off? If that were the case, it would make good business sense for the bar so that guys that just BF'd a girl cannot keep her an extra day without another BF (which is what I would sure do!) You then say that it would drive up your interest? I'm a little confused as that sounds like they are either off work or not allowed to be barfined? I'm seriously thinking about graduating from F4P on DIA / FC to P4P on Burgos / EDSA so I can avoid all the drama / jealousy that goes with the F P scene, so I appreciate the advice.
Cheers!
Aimless[/QUOTE]Exactly. The girls must show up for work next day after they are barfined the night before. I was having drinks with a really cute girl who needed to be off tomorrow and could not go with me. This confirmed what another girl told me the day before. So must be true. I liked her and now she has bargaining power over me. As we tend to want to have what we cannot have I was tempted to offer her on top of 5 K LT tip. But your explanation makes a lot more sense to me. Def less drama if you meet a girl outside of these establishments. I hate being paraded out of ESDA every manasan and every girl checking you out and greedy taxi drivers outside. For internet dating try Tidner, I met a very cute girl this way.
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Miss 10 GFE
[QUOTE=Aimless;1668494]Ordeal Report.
So, here are a couple questions for you Pros:
1) I like really hot girls with real GFE (lets call her Miss 10 GFE). Do you guys think I can go to Burgos or EDSA and find a really hot provider that will give real GFE? Or do they all know they're hot and feel like they don't need to perform?
2) I'm only going for about two weeks or so, and would like to have just one really amazing girl for the week, LT every night. I'm willing to pay what you guys have outlined as typical Burgos / EDSA barfines, but is there some way that after the first night I can avoid barfining her every night? I don't mind richly rewarding Miss 10 GFE, but I don't want to waste it on the bar if I don't have to.
3) Any other strategies to find Miss 10 GFE are greatly appreciated. Please keep in mind that I only barfined a girl once in Thailand 15 years ago, and then stayed with her for the week, so I'm a noob at this. All the rest have been DIA / FC girls introducing me to the family.
Cheers!
Aimless[/QUOTE]Yes I do believe you can find Miss 10 GFE. This is because you know what you want. Since you know what you want, it is easy to search for. Since you found a 10 before, then you will be able to find a 10 again. And the GFE will depend on you. You may have to make an attempt many times and fail, but it can be had. Get to know the mommies, they if they believe you are sincere, they will probably be able to help you out.
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BF= working next day
[QUOTE=Aimless;1671982]Thanks for the great info Sean. Can you please clarify the above statement you made? It sounds like the day after you BF her, she must show up to work and cannot take the day off? If that were the case, it would make good business sense for the bar so that guys that just BF'd a girl cannot keep her an extra day without another BF (which is what I would sure do!) You then say that it would drive up your interest? I'm a little confused as that sounds like they are either off work or not allowed to be barfined? I'm seriously thinking about graduating from F4P on DIA / FC to P4P on Burgos / EDSA so I can avoid all the drama / jealousy that goes with the F P scene, so I appreciate the advice.
Cheers!
Aimless[/QUOTE]I hardly ever comment anymore because it's been years since I've been there, but I'm looking to plan a trip again soon. I am currently talking online to a bargirl (yeah, I know) and she has said the exact same thing. If they are barfined they are required to work the next day to get their money. If they don't work the next day, they forfeit their portion of the barfine. "my girl" said that's they way all bars do it. Even when they are allowed one day off a week, often on Tuesday or Wednesday, if they BF the day before then they have to work on their only day off to receive the money. Technically they can still take their day off but then they would basically be fucking for free.
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[QUOTE=Kycuriosity;1672894]if they BF the day before then they have to work on their only day off to receive the money. Technically they can still take their day off but then they would basically be fucking for free.[/QUOTE]It's just maths and the girls know best. One punter is just one punter whom breezes in and out of town. While we are on here chatting, those girls are working the bars.
I've had girls have to go back to 'sign off' at about 4 or 5 am at the end of their shift, I guess a similar thing.
I've had girls whon have done the sums and decided they can forfeit one night of their BF share and instead take all of the following day's BF which they may have told you they will pay to the bar but they will keep 100%.
Basically the bars do give the girls security and an ongoing income, they don't get BF every day, or even every week but they do get a job, a workplace and friends. We are just visitors and quite often their allegiance is to the mamasan whom will look after them.
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Lies lies lies. How far can a pinay go?
I love pinays and I feast from them in almost all aspects. Just want to state this and some of you pinay protectors will choke so you may not want to read further. What I am going to say is a known subject as many have been postponed for the same BS. Some short historically background: mid / late 2013 my daughter with phil mother was borned. Early 2014 my daughter with domestic GF borned. Right after this I went to hospital and got snipped, thinking "skoggy, now you have enough descendants", hehe, both thinking they are the only child. I have after this juiced up quite a few pinays and just waited what was bound to happen. A pinay told me in June she was 2 months pregnant with my child without me saying much else than "OK, it happens, no worries we work something out". I know of course she is lying (not being pregnant but my child NO) but I am playing her (since she is obviously playing me). Since the baby was born here the other day I've seen pics and even if a newborn can be hard to divide being mixed or not this baby looks all in as a phil baby from origin. I compare pics with my mixed phil daughter mentioned above.
I have not provided this mother with the great news yet I can hardly be the father bcs my sperm is useless. I want to play along and see how far it goes before I pop her the good news. And I thought I only met good ladies, hehe. So this is going to be an interesting one. Actually this is like reading some of the stories I've heard and read before and I find it funny to be in the middle of one myself. What divide this girl from the mother of my phil baby is that this girl is by far a Hi so type. She is a datingsite girl from origin, with only small job contracts here and there and she never even bothers to finish one but quits by herself as the payment is to small or she doesn't want to get up early in the morning. I have told her many times, even the pay is small, to keep her jobs as it shows she is dedicated and wants to obtain a regular life. She has never listened. I believe she of course to have been joining the money against sex occupation in phils from time to time (I have from good intel I am right). I have photo proof I also want to show her when she comes with the excusing tirade I will receive when I pop her the "I am snipped" routine. I know by fact she is covering her lies with a lie and that one with a new one so it basically never stops.
With the mother of my phil baby it was a total difference as she was highly educated, earned good money and if she had to she would be more than happy to raise the baby by herself. She was not stucked in a bad situation as she wanted a mixed baby and I gave it to her (did not mean to but it happened). She has never claimed me a daim but I ship in every now and then and I pay half for her and daughters rental in Makati so mother can obtain her very good job as lawyer in a big international bank here in mentioned place. Actually I left her with a Norwegian debit card I could spare so I just ship in money electronically so she can withdraw whenever she feels like. Actually she withdraws to little compare to the rental cost each month and don't spend much. Me and her have very good rel by the way. She is just happy having a mixed kid as she despite pinoys. She is educated abroad, lived many years in various countries and have not so much good things to say about phils (of course). Her family manage quite well so she lives pretty much a European girls life with no family attachments which phils are so "famous" for.
So how far should I push this one, I want to put a hacker on the subject to see if she claims same thing with other punters? I got her to use my ipad once so I could log into her accounts after she left but she managed to avoid this. Other girls have not been so clever, hehe.
It is all in good fun but I look forward to the day comes when I can pop her the real truth and I want do do it face to face. I am also willing to commit into a DNA test on her expense. I just want to play a little and se how far she will go before she admits the truth. ?
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1674879]So how far should I push this one, I want to put a hacker on the subject to see if she claims same thing with other punters?
It is all in good fun but I look forward to the day comes when I can popp her the real truth and I want do do it face to face. I am also willing to commit into a DNA test on her expense. I just want to play a little and se how far she will go before she admits the truth. ?[/QUOTE]Sounds like you have lots of time on your hands. Push it to the max! Then report to the forum members for their amusement. But seriously, what's the joy in outing a Filipina MILF you KNOW is lying? AR.
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[QUOTE=AsianRain;1674921]Sounds like you have lots of time on your hands. Push it to the max! Then report to the forum members for their amusement. But seriously, what's the joy in outing a Filipina MILF you KNOW is lying? AR.[/QUOTE]Just the fact some indignant people of this forum thinks they are not. All in the benefits of the pinays as they are poor and we all feel so sorry for them. Well I am not. On the other hand there are so many other stupid things being debated here or there so this will just drown in its all. In my world outing is if I did mention her name and number. I have no agenda whatsoever but pinays from datingsites can not be trusted either, hehe.
I also write this as i know quite a few been in and probably will end in the same situation so i think not the subject are uncalled for. My way of doing it and how i do it can always be questioned of course. I just write what ever i feel like and that's it. U as a seasoned monger find this not as a problem but we have newbies here so they cank now what to expect. I don't sit on the answers,far from it,i just tell my experience(s). And i thought maybe that was the this forum was all about(maybe i am wrong). This post can die if it is not called for as many others do.
And yes I have only one daughter I care for in Norway. Work(or in my case business)goes smoothly so I have loads of time on my own. Often spend in the slopes of Norway weekdays(telemark or slalom)sometimes with gf and baby.
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[QUOTE=AsianRain;1674921]Sounds like you have lots of time on your hands. Push it to the max! Then report to the forum members for their amusement. But seriously, what's the joy in outing a Filipina MILF you KNOW is lying? AR.[/QUOTE]As most Filipinas don't know their fertile cycle she could be mistaken. Also snipping is not 100%. Best is to tell her now that noway, you are infertile and that you will have DNA test after birth. Most Filipinas are not aware of DNA testing either.
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Yes aimless
[QUOTE=Aimless;1671982]Thanks for the great info Sean. Can you please clarify the above statement you made? It sounds like the day after you BF her, she must show up to work and cannot take the day off? If that were the case, it would make good business sense for the bar so that guys that just BF'd a girl cannot keep her an extra day without another BF (which is what I would sure do!) You then say that it would drive up your interest? I'm a little confused as that sounds like they are either off work or not allowed to be barfined? I'm seriously thinking about graduating from F4P on DIA / FC to P4P on Burgos / EDSA so I can avoid all the drama / jealousy that goes with the F P scene, so I appreciate the advice.
Cheers!
Aimless[/QUOTE]Plain and simple. This rule is in effect to prevent you and others from cheating the bar out of a BF.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1674879]So how far should I push this one...[/QUOTE]Mixed feelings on this. Plenty of girls meet other guys concurrently. You're in town and perhaps the other sperm shooters are not. Or you have money and the others don't. This girl may even know about your other kids, thus she may see you as a responsible chap. Run the accusation up the flagpole and see if you salute it. In her defence I've met plenty of girls who don't know their cycles well or who have irregular ones.
AR asked a good question, which I'll paraphrase: "What do you gain from it?" Other than the satisfaction of proving someone devious I don't see much upside for you. She may very well react quite horribly if you rub her nose in it, especially if she has completely built and occupied the fantasy world of you taking care of her and the baby. Has she told her father, uncles, and brothers that you're the father and you'll take care of her... and by extension them? *Poof* There goes their lifetime supply of Emperador. And it's your fault. This could get hairy for you. I don't want to be an alarmist but the potential downside is significantly worse than the upside for you. If I were you I wouldn't mention the vasectomy at first, rather go with asking her for a DNA test. (Does she have the money to pay for it?) If she balks this strongly suggests that she believes you're not the father; you get the satisfaction you seek without causing her too much humiliation. Then you may tell her about vasectomy, if you think wise.
I don't know Philippine law, but I know legal systems can be capricious, especially in an us insiders versus you outsiders situation. In a different Asian country a friend of mine was accused of paternity. He obtained the blood and DNA tests proving he wasn't the dad. The girl sued him. Did her lawyer caution her against doing so? Nope. Was her case tossed out of court? Nope. Did he win? Yes. Was that the end of it? No. She appealed and more money out his pocket. Did he win the appeal? Yes. Was that the end of it? Certainly not. And off they went to the Supreme Court. For an effin paternity case. My friend never envisioned it going on so long, so far, and so expensively.
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DNA it is
I play along then. I thought this was a bit humorist but even being not to paranoid I just go along with another DNA test for everyone's pleasure. I will pay attention to this situation but I think I am good to go in and out of phils as I have no info she is somewhat connected to any authorities whatsoever. Thanks for the heads up Huts, I regret it (my post already) but still a reminder for lets say newbies.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1674992]
AR asked a good question, which I'll paraphrase: "What do you gain from it?" Other than the satisfaction of proving someone devious I don't see much upside for you. She may very well react quite horribly if you rub her nose in it, especially if she has completely built and occupied the fantasy world of you taking care of her and the baby. Has she told her father, uncles, and brothers that you're the father and you'll take care of her... and by extension them? *Poof* There goes their lifetime supply of Emperador. And it's your fault. This could get hairy for you. I don't want to be an alarmist but the potential downside is significantly worse than the upside for you. If I were you I wouldn't mention the vasectomy at first, rather go with asking her for a DNA test. (Does she have the money to pay for it?) If she balks this strongly suggests that she believes you're not the father; you get the satisfaction you seek without causing her too much humiliation. Then you may tell her about vasectomy, if you think wise.[/QUOTE]Excellent advice Huts and asking ourselves "What do I gain from it?" is something we could apply to other situations girls may try to put us into here as well. I can easily see Skogis's situation going downhill for him real fast. If the girl thinks she's going to loose her gravy train she could turn around and claim you sexually assaulted her (apparently the short 4 letter word, that starts with an "R" and ends with "ape" is prohibited to use, LOL). Even though there's no evidence it would still cost him a few thousand (or perhaps even hundred's of thousands) pesos to get out of it. Or she could try to set him up and scam him some other way. It doesn't matter what caste she come from, there's a good chance she has a friend or family member in the PNP who would be in on the scam.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1675095] but still a reminder for lets say newbees.[/QUOTE]And another reminder for foreigners: We already wear a target on our backs, do your best to keep it as small as possible.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1675095]Thanks for the heads up Huts, I regret it (my post allready) but still a reminder for lets say newbees.[/QUOTE]From my perspective you don't need to regret anything. I see the humour, and the potential for even more, in this. A good story is always a good story. If she was claiming pregnancy falsely I'd play along if I were you, but since there is a real baby the seriousness of the situation is exponentially higher. Is a humourous story, which is the most you stand you gain, worth the risk?
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Re test
[QUOTE=Skogis;1674879]I love pinays and I feast from them in almost all aspects. Just want to state this and some of you pinay protectors will choke so you may not want to read further. What I am going to say is a known subject as many have been postponed for the same BS. Some short historicaly background: mid / late 2013 my daughter with phil mother was borned. Early 2014 my daughter with domestic GF borned. Right after this I went to hospital and got snipped, thinking "skoggy, now you have enough descentants", hehe, both thinking they are the only child. I have after this juiced up quite a few pinays and just waited what was bound to happen. A pinay told me in June she was 2 months pregnant with my child without me saying much else than "ok, it happens, no worries we work something out". I know ofcourse she is lying (not beeing pregnant but my child NO) but I am playing her (since she is obviously playing me). Since the baby was born here the other day I've seen pics and even if a newborn can be hard to devide beeing mixed or not this baby looks all in as a phil baby from origin. I compare pics with my mixed phil daughter mentioned above.
I have not provided this mother with the great news yet I can hardly be the father bcs my spermia is useless. I want to play along and see how far it goes before I pop her the good news. And I thought I only met good ladies, hehe. So this is going to be an interesting one. Actually this is like reading some of the stories I've heard and read before and I find it funny to be inthe middle of one myself. What devide this girl from the mother of my phil baby is that this girl is by far a Hi so type. She is a datingsite girl from origin, with only small job contracts here and there and she never even bothers to finish one but quits by herself as the payment is to small or she doesn't want to get up early in the morning. I have told her many times, eventhe pay is small, to keep her jobs as it shows she is dedicated and wants to obtain a regular life. She has never listened. I believe she ofcourse to have been joining the money against sex occupation in phils from time to time (I have from good intel I am right). I have photoproof I also want to show her when she comes with the excusing tirade iwill recieve when I pop her the "I am snipped" routine. I know by fact she is covering her lies with a lie and that one with a new one so it basically never stops.
With the mother of my phil baby it was a total difference as she was highly educated, earned good money and if she had to she would be more than happy to raise the baby by herself. She was not stucked in a bad situation as she wanted a mixed baby and I gave it to her (did not mean to but it happened). She has never claimed me a daim but I ship in every now and then and I pay half for her and daughters rental in Makati so mother can obtain her very good job as lawyer in a big international bank here in mentioned place. Actually I left her with a norwegian debetcard I could spare so I just ship in money electronicaly so she can withdraw whenever she feels like. Actually she withdraws to little compare to the rental cost each month and don't spend much. Me and her have very good rel by the way. She is just happy having a mixed kid as she depites pinoys. She is educated abroad, lived many years in various countries and have not so much good things to say about phils (ofcourse). Her family manage quite well so she lives pretty much a european girls life with no family attachments which phils are so "famous" for.
So how far should I push this one, I want to put a hacker on the subject to see if she claims same thing with other punters? I got her to use my ipad once so I could log into her accounts after she left but she managed to avoid this. Other girls have not been so clever, hehe.
It is all in good fun but I look forward to the day comes when I can popp her the real truth and I want do do it face to face. I am also willing to commit into a DNA test on her expense. I just want to play a little and se how far she will go before she admits the truth. ?[/QUOTE]Get retested too, as sometimes the vas will migrate back together and cause unwanted fathering.
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Not to worry much about repercussions. "In a different Asian country" the impregnated girl or her family, or an NGO might have the resources to file a court case. In the Philippines, she won't even have the means for a DNA test. In ten years only one woman has told me she has gone to court over this. The perpetrator was a prominent filipino, and she was earning her legal expenses through the LA Cafe. As for poor relatives being disappointed, they will not travel very far to find you.
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1674992]...I don't know Philippine law, but I know legal systems can be capricious, especially in an us insiders versus you outsiders situation. In a different Asian country a friend of mine was accused of paternity. He obtained the blood and DNA tests proving he wasn't the dad. The girl sued him. Did her lawyer caution her against doing so? Nope. Was her case tossed out of court? Nope. Did he win? Yes. Was that the end of it? No. She appealed and more money out his pocket. Did he win the appeal? Yes. Was that the end of it? Certainly not. And off they went to the Supreme Court. For an effin paternity case. My friend never envisioned it going on so long, so far, and so expensively.[/QUOTE]
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Skogis tale is the best thing I have read in days on the forums. Please keep us updated with the latest drama. Skogis, have you done a test of your load just to be sure there isn't any swimmers left? This could get ugly otherwise.
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[QUOTE=Gorgon;1675610]Skogis tale is the best thing I have read in days on the forums. Please keep us updated with the latest drama. Skogis, have you done a test of your load just to be sure there isn't any swimmers left? This could get ugly otherwise.[/QUOTE]Post surgical motility test is standard procedure, 30 or so days after. It should show no swimmers.
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[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang;1675469]Get retested too, as sometimes the vas will migrate back together and cause unwanted fathering.[/QUOTE]At what rate? In addition to being snipped, the vas are tied off.
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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1675644]Post surgical motility test is standard procedure, 30 or so days after. It should show no swimmers.[/QUOTE]When I had mine done they just cauterized the ends and there was a (slim) chance that the ends could get connected again (I forget the odds). It was very very difficult to reverse the operation if you needed it, so there was a rigorous process prior to the snip to help you be absolutely certain you wanted the vasectomy.
Now I understand that the modern approach is to cap the ends so that reversal is "easier". It seems it could also be "easier" for the caps to come off too.
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1675743]When I had mine done they just cauterized the ends and there was a (slim) chance that the ends could get connected again (I forget the odds). It was very very difficult to reverse the operation if you needed it, so there was a rigorous process prior to the snip to help you be absolutely certain you wanted the vasectomy.
Now I understand that the modern approach is to cap the ends so that reversal is "easier". It seems it could also be "easier" for the caps to come off too.[/QUOTE]Even though I was sterile I had to have a vasectomy a few years ago for other reasons. Also the USA doc told me he was required to inform me of the two procedures you outlined RK. The only difference when I had mine done was that the doc also removed about a 2-3 cm section of the tube before cauterizing the ends; virtually no chance of them ever mending back together on their own.
Did a home test and called in the results to his office. Once after 30 days (and at least after 8-10 ejaculations to clear out any residual sperm to eliminate a false positive reading) and again after 90 days.
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Skog,
I like you. Just let it go. Not because of time or money. But you are way above this. Let it go buddy. You never know what is lurking underneath those rocks.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1674953]Just the fact some indignated people of this forum thinks they are not. All in the benefits of the pinays as they are poor and we all feel so sorry for them. Well I am not. On the other hand there are so many other stupid things beeing debated here or there so this will just drown in its all. In my world outing is if I did mention her name and number. I have no agenda whatsoever but pinays from dating sites can not be trusted either, hehe.
I also write this as I know quite a few been in and probably will end in the same situation so i think not the subject are uncalled for. My way of doing it and how i do it can allways be questioned ofcourse. I just write what ever i feel like and thats it. U as a seasoned monger find this not as a problem but we have newbees here so they canknow what to expect. I dont sit onthe answers,far from it,i just tell my experience(s). And i thought maby that was the this forum was all about(maybe i am wrong).. This post can die if it is not called for as many others do.
And yes i have only one daughter I care for in Norway. Work (or in my case business) goes smoothly so I have loads of time on my own. Often spend in the slopes of Norway weekdays(telemark or slalom)sometimes with gf and baby...[/QUOTE]
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Another legal debate. This time regarding minors
I'd like to share with the forum an exchange I've had with a lovely Philippine that seems to be dying to meet me in Manila. On here DIA profile she wrote she's 19. On her FB. No birth year, but the birth date that is only in a few months from now. When we chat with her on FB, she tells me that she really wants to meet, but as she's a minor, I should also meet her family. I immediately say "what? So she says to me. Just kidding. That raised my antennas, particularly after she has was kind of pursuing me.
I confronted her on the matter, saying that I don't date minors. She immediately said that she's not a minor, that it was a joke and her NSO (or something like that) birth certificate states that she's 18 years old. She said something about her birth date being messed up by the hospital, that is why her real birth date is different (later?) than the official NSO birth certificate states. She claimed not to be a scammer and promised to bring NSO certificate to our first date. She also said that this certificate is impossible to fabricate.
So, what the elders of this site say? On one hand, the girl is very cute, bubbly, and claims to have some certificate of being of a legal age. On the other hand, I heard so many stories of tourist traps by local police using girls that are almost 18 (but not really) that I don't want to take any risk whatsoever. Any advice will be welcome!
Aibolit
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Aibolit
Move on. Why even contemplate the risk when there are so many others available?
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[QUOTE=Aibolit;1675950] SNIP birth certificate states that she's 18 years old. SNIP claims to have some certificate of being of a legal age. On the other hand, I heard so many stories of tourist traps by local police using girls that are almost 18 (but not really) that[b] I don't want to take any risk whatsoever[/b].[/QUOTE]There's no photo on the birth certificate, so who's to say that it's hers and not her sister's, cousin's or one she found in the trash? Block her and forget her.
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[QUOTE=Aibolit;1675950]I'd like to share with the forum an exchange I've had with a lovely young Philippine that seems to be dying to meet me in Manila. On here DIA profile she wrote she's 19. On her FB. No birth year, but the birth date that is only in a few months from now. When we chat with her on FB, she tells me that she really wants to meet, but as she's a minor, I should also meet her family. I immediately say "what? So she says to me. Just kidding. That raised my antennas, particularly after she has was kind of pursuing me.
I confronted her on the matter, saying that I don't date minors. She immediately said that she's not a minor, that it was a joke and her NSO (or something like that) birth certificate states that she's 18 years old. She said something about her birth date being messed up by the hospital, that is why her real birth date is different (later?) than the official NSO birth certificate states. She claimed not to be a scammer and promised to bring NSO certificate to our first date. [b]She also said that this certificate is impossible to fabricate.[/b] {S N I P}[/QUOTE]It is possible for anyone to obtain a birth certificate (one can even apply by email), of any other person in PI, simply by knowing the personal details of that person, birth details and parent's identities.
I know of case where a person was taking details from cemetery graves, finding additional details from relatives, getting birth certificates and then creating false identities (to commit fraud).
NSO is the National Statistics Office. I am sure that details will be on their website.
Ikksman.
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[QUOTE=Aibolit;1675950]...NSO certificate to our first date. She also said that this certificate is impossible to fabricate.[/QUOTE]They have anti-counterfeiting techniques but are very, very basic and far too easy to fabricate.
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[QUOTE=Aibolit;1675950]I'd like to share with the forum an exchange I've had with a lovely young Philippine that seems to be dying to meet me in Manila. On here DIA profile she wrote she's 19. On her FB. No birth year, but the birth date that is only in a few months from now. When we chat with her on FB, she tells me that she really wants to meet, but as she's a minor, I should also meet her family. I immediately say "what? So she says to me. Just kidding. That raised my antennas, particularly after she has was kind of pursuing me.
I confronted her on the matter, saying that I don't date minors. She immediately said that she's not a minor, that it was a joke and her NSO (or something like that) birth certificate states that she's 18 years old. She said something about her birth date being messed up by the hospital, that is why her real birth date is different (later?) than the official NSO birth certificate states. She claimed not to be a scammer and promised to bring NSO certificate to our first date. She also said that this certificate is impossible to fabricate.
So, what the elders of this site say? On one hand, the girl is very cute, bubbly, and claims to have some certificate of being of a legal age. On the other hand, I heard so many stories of tourist traps by local police using girls that are almost 18 (but not really) that I don't want to take any risk whatsoever. Any advice will be welcome!
Aibolit.[/QUOTE]Take a trip to little Quiapou. You can buy fake I'd's copy birth certs, marriage certs. Every legal document you want is there. Want to be a Professer. Go Little Quiapou. And if its that easy and open and avaialble to all. Who would trust a birth cert from a potential. Do a cost benefit analysis. It aint worth it.
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[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1675749]Even though I was sterile I had to have a vasectomy a few years ago for other reasons. Also the USA doc told me he was required to inform me of the two procedures you outlined RK. The only difference when I had mine done was that the doc also removed about a 2-3 cm section of the tube before cauterizing the ends; virtually no chance of them ever mending back together on their own.
Did a home test and called in the results to his office. Once after 30 days (and at least after 8-10 ejaculations to clear out any residual sperm to eliminate a false positive reading) and again after 90 days.[/QUOTE]My experience was virtually the same PJ.
I went back after a month and jacked off into a bottle (funny experience. The nurse gave me 2 copies of an old Penthouse magazine before they left me alone to do the deed).
Zero wrigglers. He asked me to return again after 6 months and once again I was clear.
Just to add to the Skog discussion. I have had had 3 different girls accusing me of being a "father" (post vasectomy).
The first one I interrogated about her period dates and concluded that she was probably NOT preggers anyway and sure enough; 4 weeks later she told me she had her period. The other 2 I ignored completely as either they were also false alarms and I knew it didn't concern me anyway because it wasn't me.
I didn't need to get any kicks by teasing them about trying to scam me. Just cutting off all contact was enough retribution for me.
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Aibolit.
Revisit it in a year. There are so many 20 yo providers here that look like they are 14 if that is what you are in to so why risk it.
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Minors in Manila
Thanks everyone for the words of caution regarding the girl that may be few months short of being 18, but claims otherwise. I agree that it doesn't worth the risk and will act accordingly.
But, it did occur to me that one of the cuties in my lineup in Manila is 18, another 19. Should I ask them all for IDs? Wouldn't it be a bit too off-putting? After giving it some thought, I think the following system may be best to keep safe:
1. Tell the girl you ask her to turn off her phone when on a date. This will hopefully conceal her whereabouts from whoever she maybe inclined to disclose it to.
2. Check ID.
3. Most importantly. Use judgement. If the ID is OK, phone is off and she seems genuinely into you. Then most likely things are OK.
4. Don't disclose until the last moment the name of the hotel.
5. Slip into hotel as unnoticed as possible, so that the staff can't become the source of the trouble.
Happy hunting!
Aibolit
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[QUOTE=Aibolit;1676398]Thanks everyone for the words of caution regarding the girl that may be few months short of being 18, but claims otherwise. I agree that it doesn't worth the risk and will act accordingly.
But, it did occur to me that one of the cuties in my lineup in Manila is 18, another 19. Should I ask them all for IDs? Wouldn't it be a bit too off-putting? [/QUOTE]You are sailing close to the wind if you are planning to meet 18 year old girls. I DS are cheap and easy to obtain here and don't mean anything for a woman who is out to scam you.
You also CANNOT go by looks alone.
I have been to many weddings here in the Philippines and I have seen some bridesmaids who are barely teenagers (like 12 or 14) but are painted up with extreme make-up and hairdos and padded clothing and they could pass for 18 or 20 year olds.
Good luck with having the phone switched off all the time. You will need to confiscate it from her if you want to be sure because there are so many ways to keep phones on even when they are apparently switched off. Confiscating her phone will be a bigger turn-off for her than asking for I D .
As I said to you when you started planning; you are over-doing it. Your experience will be spoiled by you trying to remember the very long planning list you are checking off in your head.
Nothing goes according to plan in the Philippines. You will find that out soon after you emerge from the airport.
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[QUOTE=Aibolit;1675950]So, what the elders of this site say? On one hand, the girl is very cute, bubbly, and claims to have some certificate of being of a legal age. On the other hand, I heard so many stories of tourist traps by local police using girls that are almost 18 (but not really) that I don't want to take any risk whatsoever. Any advice will be welcome!
Aibolit.[/QUOTE]Don't know if this still applies, but in the past the Australian government would not accept philipine birth certificates if produced by the government, would only accept from the catholic church.
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1676517]I DS are cheap and easy to obtain here and don't mean anything for a woman who is out to scam you.
Good luck with having the phone switched off all the time. You will need to confiscate it from her if you want to be sure because there are so many ways to keep phones on even when they are apparently switched off. Confiscating her phone will be a bigger turn-off for her than asking for I D .
Nothing goes according to plan in the Philippines. You will find that out soon after you emerge from the airport.[/QUOTE]The IDs am told can bought for as little as 1000 pesos jut depends what ID.
Mobile. The only way is to turn it off yourself and if you really feel the need to remover the battery and then place all in the in room safe. Other than that good luck.
What do mean RK. Emerge from the airport? In the airport, as you arrive LOL.
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Scamming Minors
Red Kilt. You're right that 18 year old Date is close to the headwinds, as you put it (or something like that). This is why I'm hesitating here. I do appreciate all the input.
At the same time, even 24 year olds can in reality be 18 year old (by your own logic: makeup, padding, etc). So, the danger is everywhere, unless you are into dating late 20's (I'm not). That is why, even when I date a 24 year old. I may have no choice but to agree with her that the phone has to be turned off and stored with mine in the same safe (to make it appear like an equal treatment). I may come up with some story why: need to forget about the outside world, work for the US Embassy, etc.
I really don't see at this point any other way around this.
Aibolit
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[QUOTE=Aibolit;1676732]. . . . I may have no choice but to agree with her that the phone has to be turned off and stored with mine in the same safe (to make it appear like an equal treatment). I may come up with some story why: need to forget about the outside world, work for the US Embassy, etc.
I really don't see at this point any other way around this.
[/QUOTE]If you are worried about her using the phone to call in someone from outside to scam you then there must be something about her that troubles you. I guess it means that you have not vetted your contacts well enough. Just play it by ear. Don't apply a blanket "one size fits all" method of dealing with girls.
For me, if I have any misgivings or unease about a girl I simply would not meet her.
Life is too short to spend looking over your shoulder waiting for something bad to happen. A touch of paranoia?
As I said earlier Aibolit; the more detailed and precise your plans are before you even arrive in the Philippines, the more likelihood there is that it will go belly-up.
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Going rates?
Hi guys,
I have planned to go to Manila by the end of this week. I have quite a lot of experience in the Phils but this will be my first time in Manila. I'm not so sure if I will like it so I will book only 5 days for the time being. I will for sure like the ladies but not the city I'm afraid.
I want to pick up freelancers in places like LA Cafe, Robinson's and Harrison Plaza.
I have RTFF and done some searches (ok, maybe not that thoroughly) but it's not completely clear to me what the going rates are for ST. Can anyone fill me in?
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[QUOTE=Mogwai;1677054]Hi guys,
I have planned to go to Manila by the end of this week. I have quite a lot of experience in the Phils but this will be my first time in Manila. I'm not so sure if I will like it so I will book only 5 days for the time being. I will for sure like the ladies but not the city I'm afraid.
I want to pick up freelancers in places like LA Cafe, Robinson's and Harrison Plaza.
I have RTFF and done some searches (ok, maybe not that thoroughly) but it's not completely clear to me what the going rates are for ST. Can anyone fill me in?[/QUOTE]1500 to 2 K if she was really good IMO.
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[QUOTE=Aibolit;1676732] {S N I P} I may have no choice but to agree with her that the phone has to be turned off and stored with mine in the same safe (to make it appear like an equal treatment). I may come up with some story why: need to forget about the outside world, work for the US Embassy, etc.
I really don't see at this point any other way around this.
Aibolit.[/QUOTE]Some girls will strongly resist the idea of, even temporarily, losing their "comforter" (cell phone). Could spoil the moment!
I have no idea of the legality in PI (actually I do have an idea - haha), but if you are always worried, you could investigate the purchase of a low powered pocket cell phone jammer (no more than 3 m radius). The cost in China is about USD150.
Ikksman.
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1676944]For me, if I have any misgivings or unease about a girl I simply would not meet her.[/QUOTE]And even if you do meet a girl and then have any "misgivings" as RK aptly put it, give her a couple hundred pesos to cover her transport and wish her a good day. Trust your gut and always listen to the brain in your big head, not the little one.
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Reliable upscale agencies in Manila / Makati?
Hi there,
I'm currently on an extended business trip in the Philippines (Makati) and was wondering if anyone can recommend reliable upscale companionship agencies in Makati / Manila? Price isn't an object. Quality is. I want to minimize the risk of a bait-and-switch and, as far as possible, the risk of some STD-ridden junkie turning up at my hotel room.
The girl I'm seeing here is interested in spicing things up with an extra partner, so we're looking for both male and female companionship services. We'd rather avoid the whole pick-up scene.
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Agencies
[QUOTE=SwissGeorge;1677850]Hi there,
I'm currently on an extended business trip in the Philippines (Makati) and was wondering if anyone can recommend reliable upscale companionship agencies in Makati / Manila? Price isn't an object. Quality is. I want to minimize the risk of a bait-and-switch and, as far as possible, the risk of some STD-ridden junkie turning up at my hotel room.
The girl I'm seeing here is interested in spicing things up with an extra partner, so we're looking for both male and female companionship services. We'd rather avoid the whole pick-up scene.[/QUOTE]You can google 'manila escorts' and many agencies will pop up. You will see some are more expensive than others. Some girls work for multiple agencies, some with different prices. I was with the average priced girls from the sites and was not impressed. They seemed like lower end girls that were plump, smoked, dirty etc. The higher priced girls will be a lot better I bet. Meet them in the lobby and check them out. If you don't like, you can always turn them away. But I would suggest you try the Havana Cafe scene. You get a part time girl who works a normal job, and is clean, educated etc. You get to 'interview' them for a while for only the price of her drink. You can talk about sex and what you like etc. You can judge her attitude. With a pro, you don't know what you get and her attitude might be all business. It is to be hard to sniff this out with only the lobby interview you will give her.
Good luck.
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Thanks, VicVeg, for your reply and for your advice about the Cafe! Coming from Switzerland, I'm a little bit apprehensive about booking the first agency that pops up on Google, as you never know what the quality will be like. In Switzerland, at least, I knew that some agencies had a good reputation and basically offered a very nice experience catering to all my needs. Of course, they were priced accordingly ($700/ hour and up), so I guess I'm looking for a local equivalent.
Any recommendations?
[QUOTE=VicVeg;1678173]You can google 'manila escorts' and many agencies will pop up. You will see some are more expensive than others. Some girls work for multiple agencies, some with different prices. I was with the average priced girls from the sites and was not impressed. They seemed like lower end girls that were plump, smoked, dirty etc. The higher priced girls will be a lot better I bet. Meet them in the lobby and check them out. If you don't like, you can always turn them away. But I would suggest you try the Havana Cafe scene. You get a part time girl who works a normal job, and is clean, educated etc. You get to 'interview' them for a while for only the price of her drink. You can talk about sex and what you like etc. You can judge her attitude. With a pro, you don't know what you get and her attitude might be all business. It is to be hard to sniff this out with only the lobby interview you will give her. Good luck.[/QUOTE]
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Agencies
[QUOTE=SwissGeorge;1678271]Thanks, VicVeg, for your reply and for your advice about the Cafe! Coming from Switzerland, I'm a little bit apprehensive about booking the first agency that pops up on Google, as you never know what the quality will be like. In Switzerland, at least, I knew that some agencies had a good reputation and basically offered a very nice experience catering to all my needs. Of course, they were priced accordingly ($700/ hour and up), so I guess I'm looking for a local equivalent.
Any recommendations?[/QUOTE][URL]http://manilacourtesans.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://manilaescorts.ph/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.vipmanila.net/all/home.html[/URL]
Try these. Order the girls once you are there. Text / call them and they will tell you who is available. Don't give any $ until they are in your room and the service is done. If you don't like them, turn them away. There is no need for the agency to scam you. It is all legal, and many girls are willing to provide for those rates. The disappointment might come because the girl won't BBBJ, allow DATY, or will have crappy attitude etc. That is why Havana cafe is the best option. You can find a sweetheart who is just begging to bone a nice foreigner for a few pesos. They are horny and want sex so why not make a few pesos doing it rather than boning a local guy who is not to treat them nice. You are to pay them, and lick their pussy, try to make them cum etc etc. What local guy is to do that?
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GF, tired of same pussy, new world manila bay hotel, 4 girls.
Times and times over I have stated I get tired of GF's pussy pounding this a couple of weeks in a row. Now we have resided in Boracay since 29, arriving back into Manila yesterday. Was supposed to stay a bit longer but not unwillingly did I follow GF's lead when she told me she got tired of Boracay and our nice resort. She went back to our baby and grannies in Valenzuela and I managed to get a couple of days leave with friend working in MNL so we booked ourself into the mentioned hotel and a bayview suite.
It did take approx 1 HR before I established contact to a dear FB friend of mine promisingme to provide me with her studentfriends. She shipped 3 girls over. Outside the hotel (the old Hyatt one), they waited in a taxi for me to pay. It was a busy arrivaltime at the hotel and bustling with koreans all eyeballing me having 3 girls (quite small) stumbling out of the taxi after I paid the driver. My guts and brave instincts (or lack of it) failed me and I did not want to take all 3 up to the room at once, so we got into one rotation scheduel where 2 first came with me doing the double standards (phil way though). I nagged and nagged they to eat eachother but they pretended to not understand that particulare part ofcourse. The best I could do was the to 19 yo's to stand in bed ready to be dogged by me. I did my best but after 4 days not beeing able to come when me and GF did the sex (same pussy to long I get tired), it took maby 5 minutes of pumping both of them until I spread my juices over Joanna. By far not my proudest moment but it was fun with change in lady. We laughed and giggled a bit and they think it was so fun I was foreign (my pimpette informing me they only been pumped by pinoys so far, well I was doing thepinoy routine inthis case). I send them out with some nice yellow ones.
The third girl arrived and except from teeth problems she was a spinner. 20 yo so a bit older than the two frist ones. She claimed upfront to have some stomach issues as her period was due to arrive. I have had so many bloody experiences over the years so I don't care so much if it is ok to the girls (just make sure we cover the fuckarea with towels and a come in handy plastic bag). We went on but I sensed suddenly an oddly smell and saw some "redish" on my Willy. This made me loos power so I bailed her out with a barof chocolate and a yellow one. I hired a rerun with Joanna still waiting outside (7-eleven close to Riviera Mantion) and she was more than happy to partake. I pumped her up and in her best untrained pinaystyle she just lied very still hardly making any noise. I must say after approx a short week without ejaculation but still a lot of sex with GF (she is actually kinky) I did the next one in 10 min or so. Joanna was happy with a Tanduay red (they were by pimpette instructed to stay as many sessions I wanted so she did ofcourse not complain). So that was 3 girls in just about one hour (doorstaff having this odd looks upon their faces me going in and out with new girl(s) and the same).
Nr 4 girl is a bit cheating by me as I confess to use an old contact (Judith, 32 yo, Did the p e e routine on her before) and she showed up one hour later and I did my ejac nr 3 for the afternoon incl A+ service. Now the eve is starting and I have a break at the New Worlds Residence Club writing this. I have an 9:30 pm girl coming over after finishing her mallwork and then me and friend head to one of the clubs nearby. MBC or LA Cafe is dead to me. I took my friend before we had a break and it is far to smokey and I saw only 3-4's max girls present around 5 pm. I know it is a bit about luck in LA as some stunners tends to show up every now and then. I also told myself I never would go there anymore but getting this chance with a couple of days off from GF I will enjoy them to its fullest (our reason for going here was ofcourse gambling at the Casino, I might buy a t shirt or sth from there if they have as proof i actually been there).
Just a short headsup.
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[QUOTE=VicVeg;1678432]Don't give any $ until they are in your room and the service is done. [/QUOTE]From agency girls you'll often hear: "Panty's down when money down"; in that case, show her the money or set it down where she can see it (not hand it to her), they just want to make sure you have enough to pay her. Sometimes they won't ask until the deed is done.
[QUOTE]If you don't like them, turn them away.[/QUOTE]There might still be a fee if you do that, check with the respective agency first. Even if there's no fee at least give the girl a few hundred pesos to cover her transport.
[QUOTE]There is no need for the agency to scam you.[/QUOTE]You're in the Phils man, there's always a "need"! Exercise due diligence and be cautious!
[QUOTE]It is all legal,[/QUOTE]Since when is prostitution legal here?
[QUOTE]and many girls are willing to provide for those rates.[/QUOTE]I presume the exorbitant rates agencies charge; then yes, damn skippy there's plenty of girls!
[QUOTE]The disappointment might come because the girl won't BBBJ, allow DATY, or will have crappy attitude etc.[/QUOTE]At the rate agency girls get, the girl better be open to everything you want her to do and be happy about it. If you have any special desires, even if it's just getting a BBBJ, then clarify with the agency before you confirm your order.
[QUOTE]That is why Havana cafe is the best option. You can find a sweetheart who is just begging to bone a nice foreigner for a few pesos. They are horny and want sex so why not make a few pesos doing it rather than boning a local guy who is not to treat them nice.[/QUOTE]Yep, in addition to regular 100% girls since birth, there's lots of lady boys at Havana who I'm sure will gladly bone you. Each to their own.
[QUOTE]lick their pussy, try to make them cum etc etc. What local guy is to do that?[/QUOTE]Quite right, not many locals take care of their girls. That's often how you wind up repeats and girls who fall in love with you the same night (could also have something to do with having white skin and a wallet full of blue notes. But I've never been able to quite figure that one out, LOL).
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Nice reply pip
Thanks for the critique PIP.
I would also recommend that guys new to the PI try a nice mixture of options. When I go to Manila, I try to have all these options working:
-picking up girls at Havana Cafe. It is easy to avoid the lady boys. And interview the girls to sniff out the pros and users etc. I have had girls get you to my hotel to then show you 'blood' on their panties and only offer up a BJ. I think it is pre-positioned to look like blood to get them out of having to do the act. The pros will try to soak you for alot of cash, so work out the details before you leave for the room.
-stay on or near Burgos st. It is within walking distance of GreenBelt 3 (where Havana cafe is, and the nice bars / restaurants / movies etc). There are plenty of massage girls 24/7 who will come to your room and provide extras.
-get on [URL]filipinacupid.com[/URL] or [URL]dateinasia.com[/URL] and line up alot of girls. Get their numbers and text them once you are there to set up dates. Meet them at Greenbelt, at the seattles best coffee shop. If it doesn't work out, or they are not to go to your room after the date, then send them home, and you can go to Havana which is next door. Treat the girls nice, and who knows where it will lead. You might find a real sweety that you will make a long term girl for you.
Having these options keeps your days full. Some girls work nights, so you can have lunch dates. Else, get massage girls during the day to pass the time. Enjoy!
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[QUOTE=VicVeg;1678871]-picking up girls at Havana Cafe. It is easy to avoid the lady boys. And interview the girls to sniff out the pros and users etc. I have had girls get you to my hotel to then show you 'blood' on their panties and only offer up a BJ. I think it is pre-positioned to look like blood to get them out of having to do the act. The pros will try to soak you for alot of cash, so work out the details before you leave for the room.[/QUOTE]Is this the correct address of Havana?
Cafe Havana,
Level 1, Greenbelt 3.
Ayala Center, Makati City.
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[QUOTE=Mogwai;1678932]Is this the correct address of Havana?
Cafe Havana,
Level 1, Greenbelt 3.
Ayala Center, Makati City.[/QUOTE]Yep, between the Starbucks and Seattle's Best and near the outdoor church.
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Crazy Manila experience, last day without GF.
Yesterday At 11 pm my south SM Mall girl arrived for some quickies. I was almost out of juice (atleat the white one even if I tried cope with the matter and drank and ate a lot of pinapple juice / fruites). Nice to fuck this 23 yo again. I was happy to hear she tells me that while working in the mall only decent conservative colours where allowed and during workinghours (ex breaks) no tablets, phones or whatever was allowed. She showed up in uniform a greyishblue one.
I popped one gel pk of Kamagra just incase as I wanted to have her a couple of rounds. After doing her first once without any trouble, the second round showed signs of some blood showed on my dicky and a few mild spots at thebedsheets (it is my nemesis, hehe). It was now maby around 1 am so I created a white one telling her I was having plans early next morning even if my initial plan was to keep her overnight (with blood and no ass access it is a no go). So she left after a while heading for home.
2 am and high on coffeinpills (did not want to miss out a second of my time here without GF) what do a man in shitty Malate area do? He taxies to Exklusive (not far from New World Manila Bay). Place was on a early early Friday morning showing good vibes with loads of stunners both pinays and korean girls. I bottled up with one Balck label and one Absolute and possitioned myself in the middle of two group of girls (a table the staffs cleaned for me from "one beer nursing guys" The pinay group of girls by far showing the most interest. I saw one korean girl though beeing so pretty so I got in a way pussy locked (aimed at target) so i just had to have her. She was a student of some sort here in Manila and around 4 am we headed to my hotel. According to some inside here, I can hardly, in english, ask my way to the toilet, but I will adress she was eager to learn my unnative english and she spoke quite some herself even if I can proudly say not by far so good as meself (yes I know it is myself). As a good UN embassador i kept both sides of girls happy with oncoming drinks all nights just in case my korean girl proved to be to hard to get. I got a few numbers to play with later from the pinay group as well..
Back at my hotel this 22yo spinner(looking like some of the dancers in the known PSY video)did the north asian routine as japaneese and koreans do with the almost crying sounds during sex. I felt like living in a porn movie (I watch quite a bit of japeneese and korean porn) and I shoot my all blancos over her stomach. After this I was so tired so I just let her out of the hotel and made sure she was on a cabride safely back home to wherever she lives. She only letme pay a yellow note for her cab as she thought I paid enough for my booze at the club. Great girl and I will mostlikely try her for a reround any time soon (even if I have to be a familyguy from tomorrow on again).
Happy mongering. Atleast I am happy.
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Bring your own condom
I spent a few nights in Manila before Christmas. I have not been here for several years but been to Angeles skipping Manila a few times. I found the Manila girls acceptance of bare back is still the same as before. So prepare your own condom because they probably expect you to do it the natural way.
I got a passable looking girl from Manila Bay Cafe, no baby, wanted 2500, but settled for for 2000ST. I thought after a few years, the concept of safe sex should be catching on for these workers, but it's not. After a really good blow job, she just stuck my thing inside her cowgirl way, I had to pull out and asked her for a condom, she did not have any and told me without condom feel better. What! Ended up calling bell boy for an expensive condom delivery.
I got another one from Edsa Complex. It was really expensive and not worth the money, but once in a few years doesn't really hurt. Bar fine, drinks, and tip to girl add up to about 5000 pesos. She stayed till morning. Again did not have condom, she expected me to go natural again. Had to call room service again. Expensive deal so I made her go few extra miles like CIM, sixty nine, but no rimming.
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[QUOTE=ShinShin;1679125]I spent a few nights in Manila before Christmas. I have not been here for several years but been to Angeles skipping Manila a few times. I found the Manila girls acceptance of bare back is still the same as before. So prepare your own condom because they probably expect you to do it the natural way[/QUOTE]
I know many will disagree with me but I have now for atleast 4 years heavily travelling in and out from phils. Done maby (I don't have an actual number but lets say 300/400+ ladies and many repeats and regulars). Never ever did I catch a std from here or bkk, Jakarta, Beijing, singapore, kuala (and by adding those numbers of girls we end up in the 1000's). Choose your girl carefully, stay away from bargirls, only go for educated students (who did not skipped their sex edu). I have had a few mishaps though, showing the girl was a bargirl, she did give me the best anal service bb I ever experienced (this was like 1 year ago), ofcourse I thought a bit about that as bb anal is more likely to provide you with something nasty than other holes. But I check up with my doc friend atleast 6 times a year (and if I wonder about something, no prob visting him even more). He is doctor and tells me to just eat certain tablets and my GF will never experience anything. Nice doc. Now I use his replacedoc (also a crazy guy and friend, my normal doc is in the wilderness of Canada), telling me STD (the normal ones) is easily treated. They have some newborn bacterias never showed up created in an labatory in Norway so those, in Norwegian labatory, making this difficult STD back in asia go away, this is powerful stuff. Not my concern as I bb girls all the time(not all girls are new as i have many repeats and regulars, i would wonder what my Cathay, Qatar and Philippine Airline girl told if i got them some STD)but many are. I encourage everyone to protect themself but that is not an issue for me as I, with very few exceptions, explore my girls as safe ones. I've had nearly 1000 or above (globaly) and once again the only one I catched STD from was in UNI in Oslo at the age of 20 (norwegian girl). But I stay away from hookers and bargirls (those tests are laughable at best haha).
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How do you pick up all these educated clean girls
[QUOTE=Skogis;1679147]I know many will disagree with me but I have now for atleast 4 years heavily travelling in and out from phils. Done maby (I don't have an actual number but lets say 300/400+ ladies and many repeats and regulars). Never ever did I catch a std from here or bkk, Jakarta, Beijing, singapore, kuala (and by adding those numbers of girls we end up in the 1000's). Choose your girl carefully, stay away from bargirls, only go for educated students (who did not skipped their sex edu).[/QUOTE]Skogis,
You must be super handsome very rich, young and delicious Viking stud. For most of us ordinary guys perhaps even with some money, we still have no clue or opportunities or techniques to hook up with all these hundreds of educated ladies all with healthy bodies all over Asia. For most of us, if we stay away from bar girls, I think we would be jerking off in our beds every night.
How do you hook up with all these highly educated and clean girls on a few days short monger trips that most of us take? I think lots of us would like you to shed a little light and give us some of your precious tips.
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[QUOTE=ShinShin;1679200]Skogis,
You must be super handsome very rich, young and delicious Viking stud. For most of us ordinary guys perhaps even with some money, we still have no clue or opportunities or techniques to hook up with all these hundreds of educated ladies all with healthy bodies all over Asia. For most of us, if we stay away from bar girls, I think we would be jerking off in our beds every night.
How do you hook up with all these highly educated and clean girls on a few days short monger trips that most of us take? I think lots of us would like you to shed a little light and give us some of your precious tips.[/QUOTE]Ahem if I am handsome or not others have to decide but I view myself as pretty average in the looksdepartment. And I am also a pretty ordinary guy in most aspects in life. But ofcourse having a certain vikinglook in certain countries arent a massive drawback I think. But I guess we are many inside here sharing this experience. If you read around the forum you will see other guys also very successful in their pickings but I might highlight "my" girls a tad for not beeing, atleast from my knowledge, bargirls or directly straight out sexworkers. I do some screening to avoid those girls but a few have ofcourse flown under my radar and admitted later they do the bar routine. Except from one (she is a firecracker in bed and the most naughty and kinky girl atleast I ever met) I write them off as damaged goods. So I feast from girls having atleast some edu (high edu or not they still have to work modest jobs normaly), they are not rich nor poor (phil standard wice), in short they come from the same startingpoint / backgrounds in life I would say. It is just enough to meet a few and by treating them nice they tell their frinds who get curious, they tell their friends and so it spreads like fire in dry grass. I guess normal girls not frequenting the red light districts of Manila simply not know so many girls working there.
I guess some of my girls meet other guys like me but I have a feeling it is not on a daily basis. They all seem and smell very healthy. I did experience once a girl smelling like somebody did die down there (rotten fish), then I expected a STD and ditched her. A swift look at them pussies and inhaling a couple of smells can atleast give you an idea what you deal with even if it is not an exact science (looking for warts, odd coulourscheeme of pussies, smells, anything at all looking out of place basically down at the "russian front".).
And my tool these days are FB. I feast from FB but earlier I was heavy into datingsites but skipped DIA relatively early as I ran into a large portion of bargirls or direct prostitutes who I as described earlier am not into for the greater part. I don't say you will not find them in other sites but they are atleast fewer and farer between and more easy to screen out.
So can others question my MO but it works seemingly well for me as to my totaly satisfaction. But if my girls are more healthy, wealthy or more educated than others I simply don't know as it will be hard to find out. Some out of my girls range from total nuckleheads (I am probably to but I am a friendly one) to highly articulate non rice eating ones. I do keep a few (the best ones) into rotation but mostly it is "wham bam and thank you mam" and never see you again. I pride myself in treating them girls nice no matter what and I allways without exceptions donate something into their purses. If they actually wants anything or not is hard to tell as we never discuss anything regarding money but very few refuses. If they do I sneek money into their purses as I don't want the word out on the street I don't pay for service rendered (could be bad for the jungle telegraph I don't know and I have no intention finding it out). 2-3 k is my normal donation and if someone is rushing things it would be me as I sometimes keep a tight sched (with new girl arrivals).
If I don't have a superb overnighter I like to start a day with a morninggirl, shag her, midday, afternoon, maby early eve and then maby one for overnight play (this is a maxed out day). I cut normaly these days one or two out to get some "me time" and just recharge the system. Even if I don't get older than 40, hehe, the system needs longer and longer recoverytime. Earlier days I could spray juices 5/6 times a day without problems, these days we are down to 3 maby 4 at max. Maby a couple of days ago was a neet exception hitting the 5 number.
So this is no rocketscience, we create our own path in the monger biz. The road chosen I stay at until some roadwork is much needed then I change into a better road.
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[QUOTE=VicVeg;1678871]
-stay on or near Burgos st. It is within walking distance of GreenBelt 3 (where Havana cafe is, and the nice bars / restaurants / movies etc). There are plenty of massage girls 24/7 who will come to your room and provide extras.[/QUOTE]Guys, I'm totally confused. When I lookup Burgos Street and Greenbelt 3 on Google maps they are certainly not within walking distance of eachother.
There is also a P. Burgos Street but that is not really close to Greenbelt 3 either. Help!
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[QUOTE=Mogwai;1679420]Guys, I'm totally confused. When I lookup Burgos Street and Greenbelt 3 on Google maps they are certainly not within walking distance of eachother.
There is also a P. Burgos Street but that is not really close to Greenbelt 3 either. Help![/QUOTE]Yeah, they are certainly not within walking distance of each other. Is it walkable? Sure, if you want to be a hot sweaty mess walking in heat and traffic.
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[QUOTE=Mogwai;1679420]Guys, I'm totally confused. When I lookup Burgos Street and Greenbelt 3 on Google maps they are certainly not within walking distance of eachother.
There is also a P. Burgos Street but that is not really close to Greenbelt 3 either. Help![/QUOTE]It is too far to walk, Mogwai. Take a taxi or a jeepney IMO. The jeepneys are fun and real cheap but if you're taller than 5'6 make sure you don't hit your head getting in like I did.
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Exercise will do you good. If you don; t like walking, take a taxi. The five minute ride won't break the bank.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1679420]Guys, I'm totally confused. When I lookup Burgos Street and Greenbelt 3 on Google maps they are certainly not within walking distance of eachother.
There is also a P. Burgos Street but that is not really close to Greenbelt 3 either. Help![/QUOTE]
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Walk
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1679420]Guys, I'm totally confused. When I lookup Burgos Street and Greenbelt 3 on Google maps they are certainly not within walking distance of eachother.
There is also a P. Burgos Street but that is not really close to Greenbelt 3 either. Help![/QUOTE]See here:
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/dir/14.5629849[/URL], 121.0285859/14.5532101,121.0235975/ at 14.5589735,121.0265587,16 z / data=!4 m2!4 m1!3 e0.
Its about a 15 minute (1. 2 km) walk to Greenbelt 3. If you get a nice girl at the mall, and she doesn't want to walk (most won't as they won't have walking shoes or are lazy etc), then hop in a taxi for 200 p or so. At high periods, you might have to wait 5 or so minutes for a taxi.
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75 p
[QUOTE=VicVeg;1679550]See here:
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/dir/14.5629849[/URL], 121.0285859/14.5532101,121.0235975/ at 14.5589735,121.0265587,16 z / data=!4 m2!4 m1!3 e0.
Its about a 15 minute (1. 2 km) walk to Greenbelt 3. If you get a nice girl at the mall, and she doesn't want to walk (most won't as they won't have walking shoes or are lazy etc), then hop in a taxi for 200 p or so. At high periods, you might have to wait 5 or so minutes for a taxi.[/QUOTE]From p burgos to greenbelt the cost is 75 p with a few pesos for a tip included in that. I was just there about 2 months ago.
L A T.
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Meeting girls on jeepneys
[QUOTE=DCups;1679518]It is too far to walk, Mogwai. Take a taxi or a jeepney IMO. The jeepneys are fun and real cheap but if you're taller than 5'6 make sure you don't hit your head getting in like I did.[/QUOTE]You can also meet girls on jeepneys very easily but you can't mention sex or anything like that until you get off the jeepney I have gotten off before my destination just to chat them up if I got the look, and scored that way. If that doesn't bare fruit then all you have to do is get on the next jeepney in about 5 minutes. And yes, watch your head.
Happy jeepney rides L A T.
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Walk to P. Burgos
I will add my vote for walking. Twice on my last trip I had dinner at Greenbelt 3 and took a nice 15 minute walk to P. Burgos St. If you go at night it won't be too hot and if you stay on the same side of Makati Ave. as Greenbelt you will get to see the young women jogging in and around Ayala Triangle Park along the way.
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[QUOTE=DCups;1679518]It is too far to walk, Mogwai. Take a taxi or a jeepney IMO. The jeepneys are fun and real cheap but if you're taller than 5'6 make sure you don't hit your head getting in like I did.[/QUOTE]I don't know what your definition of fun is but I'm 6 feet so I cannot sit straight up in a jeepney (like most of us can't no doubt), all the time straining my neck to peek through the narrow window openings to see where we are LOL!
I don't mind walking, I walk quite a lot actually, but in the night time in Manila I'd rather take a taxi or jeepney most of the time.
Thanks for the replies guys. It's now clear to me that P. Burgos Makati is the place to be and not Burgos Street Pasay.
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[QUOTE=Mogwai;1679762]I don't know what your definition of fun is but I'm 6 feet so I cannot sit straight up in a jeepney (like most of us can't no doubt), all the time straining my neck to peek through the narrow window openings to see where we are LOL!
I don't mind walking, I walk quite a lot actually, but in the night time in Manila I'd rather take a taxi or jeepney most of the time.
Thanks for the replies guys. It's now clear to me that P. Burgos Makati is the place to be and not Burgos Street Pasay.[/QUOTE]It is one thing to take a jeepney in Makati from P Burgos Street to the malls but an entirely another to take one across Manila, even during the day. Yes, if you look Philippino, fine. But if you look like a Westerner, you stand a really high chance of being mugged. Jeepneys are all the time being held up by armed robbers. And those armed robbers and their lookouts are going to pick the jeepney with the foreigner in it because he will be the one with the money.
Many of my friends were mugged in Manila (although never in Makati which is one of about 2 or 3 safe areas in Metro-Manila).
If you are a Western guy, then pay the money for the taxi. It is not much. And you lock the doors and close the windows, especially at night. Stay safe.
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[QUOTE=JPF;1679636]I will add my vote for walking. Twice on my last trip I had dinner at Greenbelt 3 and took a nice 15 minute walk to P. Burgos St. If you go at night it won't be too hot and if you stay on the same side of Makati Ave. as Greenbelt you will get to see the young women jogging in and around Ayala Triangle Park along the way.[/QUOTE]You will get there more quickly too if you walk, especially between 8 to 10 pm on most nights (except Sunday).
It's a pleasant stroll and you can meet the ladyboys and others in the strip on the opposite side to the Ayala Triangle (in front of the hotels). They are not threatening; just decline and keep walking (unless, of course insert big smiley).
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[QUOTE=Simian;1680180]It is one thing to take a jeepney in Makati from P Burgos Street to the malls but an entirely another to take one across Manila, even during the day. Yes, if you look Philippino, fine. But if you look like a Westerner, you stand a really high chance of being mugged. Jeepneys are all the time being held up by armed robbers. And those armed robbers and their lookouts are going to pick the jeepney with the foreigner in it because he will be the one with the money.
Many of my friends were mugged in Manila (although never in Makati which is one of about 2 or 3 safe areas in Metro-Manila).
If you are a Western guy, then pay the money for the taxi. It is not much. And you lock the doors and close the windows, especially at night. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]Not disputing that robberies (armed or not) in jeeps and PUVs don't happen, but I think the fear of crime is overblown - [URL]http://www.businessinsider.com/the-most-violent-cities-in-the-world-2014-11?op=1.[/URL] (In writing this I read several news reports and the Philippines wasn't cited. Latin America & Brazil are the hot spots.) I use public transport (jeeps and MRT / LRT) regularly during daytime hours and have never encountered a problem personally. I was with a friend who was pick pocketed in the street near Amazonia, and I know Filipinos who have been robbed in taxis and in their own cars. When traveling my wallet is in my front pocket, I don't carry a large sum either, and I don't use my mobile to maintain situational awareness. Most crime is petty and those criminals are opportunists who look for the distracted or napping. Of countries I've visited or lived in I [I]perceived[/I] Italy, Guatemala, Mexico, RSA, Russia, and the USA to be more dangerous... far more than the Philippines. I think travelers feel the Philippines is unsafe because of the all the well-armed security guards and also because people speak English well enough to tell us scary stories. If one is overly fearful of crime book a holiday in Liechtenstein.
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(Lady) drinks in LAC
I was in LA Cafe last night and bought the 3 girls who surrounded and 'harassed' me from the moment I sat down a drink. I had to pay something like 750 P for 3 Red Bulls. Geez, is that normal? I think it's pretty steep. I believe they even called it ladydrinks but I'm not sure about that (it was noisy).
Picked a 25 yo cutie with a great body (some baby fat, big tits, firm ass) but she was disappointing in the sack. I should have taken the very sweet and rather pretty 'MILF' (around 30 I think) that was part of the group of 3 but she was too skinny to my taste. Oh well.
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[QUOTE=Mogwai;1680219]I was in LA Cafe last night and bought the 3 girls who surrounded and 'harassed' me from the moment I sat down a drink. I had to pay something like 750 P for 3 Red Bulls. Geez, is that normal? I think it's pretty steep. I believe they even called it ladydrinks but I'm not sure about that (it was noisy).[/QUOTE]Hate when that happens! Should have told the three hangers on to get lost. Yes Red Bull is expensive let alone as a ladies drink! Don't like their LD policy as it is suppose to be all FL. There are a few mamasans hiding in the background as well.
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[QUOTE=BukoMax;1680275]Hate when that happens! Should have told the three hangers on to get lost. Yes Red Bull is expensive let alone as a ladies drink! Don't like their LD policy as it is suppose to be all FL. There are a few mamasans hiding in the background as well.[/QUOTE]And what exactly is this LD policy? Can you refuse to buy the girl a LD and buy her a 'normal' cheaper drink instead?
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I went to Harrison Plaza this afternoon. I expected something similar as Robinsons but Harrison is older and worn out and much less posh than Robinsons.
I was there between 2:30 and 4 PM and hardly saw any WGs. I have walked up and down the entire mall 3 times (it's not that big). In total I've seen maybe 5 or 6 WGs and they were all average or below average looking.
One slightly older girl (early 30's I think) acted as a pimpete / mamasan when I told her I was looking for girls between 18 en 25. She introduced me to two young girls (22 and 25) and they were OK in the looks department, more or less, but they had the attitude of seasoned Pattaya Beach Road late night pro's if you know what I mean. So I passed.
The 'mamasan' told me the best time to go there is around 11 AM. Then there are many girls sitting at the square in the middle of the mall she said.
However tomorrow I'm moving to Makati so I don't think I will check it out anymore this holiday.
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[QUOTE=Mogwai;1680305]I went to Harrison Plaza this afternoon. I expected something similar as Robinsons but Harrison is older and worn out and much less posh than Robinsons.
I was there between 2:30 and 4 PM and hardly saw any WGs. I have walked up and down the entire mall 3 times (it's not that big). In total I've seen maybe 5 or 6 WGs and they were all average or below average looking.
One slightly older girl (early 30's I think) acted as a pimpete / mamasan when I told her I was looking for girls between 18 en 25. She introduced me to two young girls (22 and 25) and they were OK in the looks department, more or less, but they had the attitude of seasoned Pattaya Beach Road late night pro's if you know what I mean. So I passed.
The 'mamasan' told me the best time to go there is around 11 AM. Then there are many girls sitting at the square in the middle of the mall she said.[/QUOTE]Spot-on description of the place. It would take a lot of RTTF to garner all that, but that's it in a nutshell. I'll PM you with something related.
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[QUOTE=Simian;1680180]It is one thing to take a jeepney in Makati from P Burgos Street to the malls but an entirely another to take one across Manila, even during the day. Yes, if you look Philippino, fine. But if you look like a Westerner, you stand a really high chance of being mugged. Jeepneys are all the time being held up by armed robbers. And those armed robbers and their lookouts are going to pick the jeepney with the foreigner in it because he will be the one with the money.[/QUOTE]Let's rethink this logic. Let's say you're a seasoned Filipino "holdapper." You get to choose two out of three settings for doing your holdups, and the choices are: jeepneys, ATMs in less well lit and less well-traveled locations, or near Western Union outlets. Which two are you going to choose?
Yes, there are occasional jeepney robberies, but think for a moment about what kinds of people are most frequently jeepney passengers. Westerners? Well-heeled Filipinos who have their own drivers? Business people traveling between meetings? No to all of these. With the exception of H and me most jeepney passengers are those who can't afford other transportation options. They don't have a lot of money in their pockets, and they aren't sporting expensive watches and jewelry. I concur with H: the risk of being robbed in a jeepney is overblown. Jeepneys are loud, belch nasty fumes, have low ceilings, and make a lot of stops, but frequent robberies are not one of the major detractors. There are three good reasons to take a jeepney: they are cheap; they go places where other forms of transportation, including taxis, don't often go; and there are so many more of them than any other kind of public transportation that it's uncommon not to be able to get one when you need it. Otherwise, take buses, taxis, FX taxis, or the LRT/MRT--whatever makes you feel safe.
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Harrison Plaza
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1680305]I went to Harrison Plaza this afternoon. I expected something similar as Robinsons but Harrison is older and worn out and much less posh than Robinsons.
I was there between 2:30 and 4 PM and hardly saw any WGs. I have walked up and down the entire mall 3 times (it's not that big). In total I've seen maybe 5 or 6 WGs and they were all average or below average looking.
One slightly older girl (early 30's I think) acted as a pimpete / mamasan when I told her I was looking for girls between 18 en 25. She introduced me to two young girls (22 and 25) and they were OK in the looks department, more or less, but they had the attitude of seasoned Pattaya Beach Road late night pro's if you know what I mean. So I passed.
The 'mamasan' told me the best time to go there is around 11 AM. Then there are many girls sitting at the square in the middle of the mall she said.
However tomorrow I'm moving to Makati so I don't think I will check it out anymore this holiday.[/QUOTE]I have never actually took one out of there but I did scout it out for the purpose of reporting my findings on ISG. I would talk to the pimpete as you called her and see what info she may have. She could have a few phone numbers of other girls. I spoke to a pimpete and was told that Sundays is the best time.
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I agree
[QUOTE=SkipKost;1680729]Let's rethink this logic. Let's say you're a seasoned Filipino "holdapper." You get to choose two out of three settings for doing your holdups, and the choices are: jeepneys, ATMs in less well lit and less well-traveled locations, or near Western Union outlets. Which two are you going to choose?
Yes, there are occasional jeepney robberies, but think for a moment about what kinds of people are most frequently jeepney passengers. Westerners? Well-heeled Filipinos who have their own drivers? Business people traveling between meetings? No to all of these. With the exception of H and me most jeepney passengers are those who can't afford other transportation options. They don't have a lot of money in their pockets, and they aren't sporting expensive watches and jewelry. I concur with H: the risk of being robbed in a jeepney is overblown. Jeepneys are loud, belch nasty fumes, have low ceilings, and make a lot of stops, but frequent robberies are not one of the major detractors. There are three good reasons to take a jeepney: they are cheap; they go places where other forms of transportation, including taxis, don't often go; and there are so many more of them than any other kind of public transportation that it's uncommon not to be able to get one when you need it. Otherwise, take buses, taxis, FX taxis, or the LRT/MRT--whatever makes you feel safe.[/QUOTE]I agree with you skip, nobody wants the pocket change that you would find traveling on a jeepney.
If you don't feel safe in a jeepney then perhaps you should stay in your hotel and watch your flat screen and order take out pinays from online. Nobody is going to rob an empty pocket and that is basically what a jeepney is carrying. As for pick pockets, all you need to do is put your wallet, and your expensive watch, in your front pocket and be aware of your surroundings.
Just my 20 pesos, L A T.
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[QUOTE=SkipKost;1680729]There are three good reasons to take a jeepney: they are cheap; they go places where other forms of transportation, including taxis, don't often go; and there are so many more of them than any other kind of public transportation that it's uncommon not to be able to get one when you need it.[/QUOTE]For me it's the third reason why I take the jeep. Sure, I can wait around for a taxi, or I can hop a jeep and be on my merry way to my destination. For short daytime rides of 5-20 minutes they're perfectly fine.
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[QUOTE=Mogwai;1680294]And what exactly is this LD policy? Can you refuse to buy the girl a LD and buy her a 'normal' cheaper drink instead?[/QUOTE]You may buy her any drink of your choice. Or ignore the waitress and buy nothing.
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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1680408]Spot-on description of the place. It would take a lot of RTTF to garner all that, but that's it in a nutshell. I'll PM you with something related.[/QUOTE]Harrison Plaza is always worth a look, but I agree that it is rather hit-or-miss. I have found some terrific stunners there, but other times the pickings are slim. YMMV.
RG.
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[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang;1680890]As for pick pockets, all you need to do is put your wallet, and your expensive watch, in your front pocket and be aware of your surroundings.[/QUOTE]I carry cash, a credit card and a debit card, and a xerox copy of the front pages of my passport in a money belt between my undershirt and outer shirt, slung around my neck and hanging under my right arm. I carry only enough cash for transactions I anticipate making for that day. I have been pick-pocketed once--on the LRT. They got the only thing in my back pocket, a pocket appointment book / calendar. Worthless to the thief but very inconvenient for me, since I lost all track of my various appointments. Now I carry the appointment book in the money belt, and the incident taught me how to avoid similar situations on crowded LRTs. I wear a cheap watch, carry a cheap Philippine cell phone, and do not own any bling.
I often carry a small backpack with books and papers, and occasionally a laptop. In crowded places I carry it in front with my arms wrapped around it.
I continue to believe the most vulnerable places are near poorly lit ATMs, Western Union and Moneygram outlets, money changers, and crowded areas in the higher end malls. Just my $.02.
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Lac / mbc
Or buy a plate of over priced pancit. Good way to make friends since it's way too big for just one. Or take her across the street and buy a cheap plate of pancit. A few steps farther, and you'll find the shwarma place. In MBC, I often pay for my first drink as I order. That way I can move around. Take my drink.
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1680921]You may buy her any drink of your choice. Or ignore the waitress and buy nothing.[/QUOTE]
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Just take taxi
[QUOTE=SkipKost;1681128]I carry cash, a credit card and a debit card, and a xerox copy of the front pages of my passport in a money belt between my undershirt and outer shirt, slung around my neck and hanging under my right arm. I carry only enough cash for transactions I anticipate making for that day. I have been pick-pocketed once--on the LRT. They got the only thing in my back pocket, a pocket appointment book / calendar. Worthless to the thief but very inconvenient for me, since I lost all track of my various appointments. Now I carry the appointment book in the money belt, and the incident taught me how to avoid similar situations on crowded LRTs. I wear a cheap watch, carry a cheap Philippine cell phone, and do not own any bling.
I often carry a small backpack with books and papers, and occasionally a laptop. In crowded places I carry it in front with my arms wrapped around it.
I continue to believe the most vulnerable places are near poorly lit ATMs, Western Union and Moneygram outlets, money changers, and crowded areas in the higher end malls. Just my $.02.[/QUOTE]To Skip post.
I just take a taxi it is so cheap here in Manila so many thief just no worth it for me to take a shitty Jeepney or train here.
Fast eddie 48.
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Nuru massage
Has any ne tried Nuru massage in Manila.
Tempted for going ahead with one agency, if you google it her page comes first or there is. Ph website with this concepts name.
Damage is around 2000/2500 pesos. Any review or pointers?
You can PM me or put note here.
Regards,
Sanysh
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Sucker
I just got off the plane a couple of hours ago and I made my 1st mistake. Stayed at the Manila Airport Hotel and I know I was grossly overcharged. $1300.
I asked one of the uniformed (porter) guys in the airport where the hotel was and he took me to a lady and she got a cab. I hope I will get smarter going forward. The took advantage of my ignorance. I deserved it. The hotel will take me to the airport fro free in the morning. I won't say anything bad about them, because I should have known better.
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Dollars or pesos?
[QUOTE=RumBuddy;1682068]I just got off the plane a couple of hours ago and I made my 1st mistake. Stayed at the Manila Airport Hotel and I know I was grossly overcharged. $1300.
I asked one of the uniformed (porter) guys in the airport where the hotel was and he took me to a lady and she got a cab. I hope I will get smarter going forward. The took advantage of my ignorance. I deserved it. The hotel will take me to the airport fro free in the morning. I won't say anything bad about them, because I should have known better.[/QUOTE]$1300.00 is grossly overcharged for one night. P1300 is not so bad.
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[QUOTE=Dg8787;1682146]$1300.00 is grossly overcharged for one night. P1300 is not so bad.[/QUOTE]It was Pesos and it was for the cab. I was a boob. Not sure why I did, I guess I was really tired from the 22 plus hours of traveling. $1300 dollars, I can't be that tired.
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Cab or hotel?
[QUOTE=RumBuddy;1682068]I just got off the plane a couple of hours ago and I made my 1st mistake. Stayed at the Manila Airport Hotel and I know I was grossly overcharged. $1300.
I asked one of the uniformed (porter) guys in the airport where the hotel was and he took me to a lady and she got a cab. I hope I will get smarter going forward. The took advantage of my ignorance. I deserved it. The hotel will take me to the airport fro free in the morning. I won't say anything bad about them, because I should have known better.[/QUOTE]You mean you paid 1300 php for a taxi?
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[QUOTE=Free2;1682237]You mean you paid 1300 php for a taxi?[/QUOTE]Yes I believe it was for the taxi ride to the Airport Hotel. It is a five minute walk from the airport! Rooms start around 2500 php. The porter and the lady probably got a cut of the 1300 php! Oh well.
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[QUOTE=BukoMax;1682321]Yes I believe it was for the taxi ride to the Airport Hotel. It is a five minute walk from the airport! Rooms start around 2500 php. The porter and the lady probably got a cut of the 1300 php! Oh well.[/QUOTE]Yes, Sadly, I was in the KFC and I saw a 2 guys that I saw in the Japan airport (Narita), I asked how much he paid for the taxi, he said 100 pesos. Took me while to get over it, but I have paid in life for the dumb mistakes I've made. I will blame it on the JetLag,. Like you said, oh well. They needed it more than me and I learned something. Don Be A BooB. I'm in another city right now and I paid less than 500 for a taxi ride, much further... but I have a wonderful lady as a front person now.
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[QUOTE=RumBuddy;1682521]Yes, Sadly, I was in the KFC and I saw a 2 guys that I saw in the Japan airport (Narita), I asked how much he paid for the taxi, he said 100 pesos. Took me while to get over it, but I have paid in life for the dumb mistakes I've made. I will blame it on the JetLag,. Like you said, oh well. They needed it more than me and I learned something. Don Be A BooB. I'm in another city right now and I paid less than 500 for a taxi ride, much further... but I have a wonderful lady as a front person now.[/QUOTE]Yeah, don't sweat it. We've all made those kind of mistakes, especially in the beginning. I suggest that you spend time and RTFF to get info on potential pitfalls, some of which can be far more costly than an expensive taxi ride.
RG.
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Taxi price
Yeah, I came within seconds of paying that same price. A porter directed me to a lady with a clipboard who had the prices listed on an official looking sheet of paper. I had been looking for the yellow taxi meter stand but it was blocked by some vehicles so missed it initially. While I was doing the mental currency calculation, the vehicles moved and I saw the yellow taxis stand and walked over to wait on the queue. There can be a line sometimes but the cost savings is dramatic.
It can happen but don't sweat the small stuff.
[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1682523]Yeah, don't sweat it. We've all made those kind of mistakes, especially in the beginning. I suggest that you spend time and RTFF to get info on potential pitfalls, some of which can be far more costly than an expensive taxi ride.
RG.[/QUOTE]
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Facebook #1 connection
Pre-trip I set up a FB account and garnered about 160 friends. After 2 months, whittled it down to about 45 interesting ones before departure. Just deleted the rest. Goodbye forever.
Last trip all I did was a Tagged profile before departure. Got more contacts than I could handle and a few of which I will be meeting this trip. This time, only FB.
Met FB girl #1, 28,5'-2", no kids, not a total knockout but pretty, a great personality and slim, but not a mega-spinner. Her dad died last year, and no money was discussed / requested prior to meeting her. That usually grants an immediate expulsion from my life. So we are texting, setting something up. A dinner date is what she proposes, I counter with a dinner date followed by an invitation to stay the night. She accepts. Cavite to Century Park is far! This girl must be DTF!
My modus operandi is I never make any promises, all I ask is would you like to meet me? I don't say I am in love, I don't say I will marry you, just meet. Let their imaginations do whatever they do.
These pinays send some of the funniest text msgs. I see FB #1 is up at 4:30 am. I ask why.
"Because before I taking a bath I want to rest my eyes, I takecare of my eyes".
Ok, wtf!? I actually laughed out loud at that one. Wouldn't her eyes get more rest if she was asleep?
FB #1 has a real office job, entering data into a computer from 7:30 am 5 pm, with a 1 hour break in which she sleeps (again the reason is to rest her eyes!
She agrees without hesitation to meet at the hotel (another good sign she is DTF) between 6-7 pm. Coming from Cavite, she is early, arrives at 5:50 pm. EARLY! Never happens. Geez, this is looking good.
In less than 30 minutes we had the first touch and in less than 30 minutes later we were naked.
I ask her to give me blowjob. She says she has never done this!
I enquire further. She was a virgin until she was 27 (1 year ago), had 2 boyfriends, 1 who got into drugs and the other had another girl. Oh dear, my deepest sympathies. She never gave a blowjob to either. Nor did either suck her pussy (which she declined my offer yuk, says she). She has never been with a white guy. So many girls are full of BS, but I was pretty sure she was telling the truth.
So feeling like the king of the world I introduced her to the blowjob game. Her inexperience showed but she caught on very quick and it was a delight. Go deeper sweetheart, go deeper.
Then came time for the real deal and all the comments about "ow, so big, OMG". This girl was tight.
Dinnertime I ask what she likes. The answer after much probing. Jollibee or McDonalds. This girl is amazing! As if we are ever going there! Never. I ask; Have you ever been to Shakeys, Max's, Itallianos, TGIF? No to all was the answer. This girl had never been into a restaurant in her life. Max's it was and she hardly eats much. No begging for more, nothing, asking me for nothing in the mall.
Back for round 2. I had discretely popped an generic at the table in Max's so I could last longer. I don't need them for what they are usually bought for, but they make me not just cum in 30 seconds. She was getting into it and actually came twice while fucking! What a champ!
Such a pleasant surprise what a cultured girl, dressed in her work uniform, polite, sweet and asking for nothing. Just what we all want right? If I did not have so many other line-ups she would be my new fav.
We all have so many stories and some of us share the (humbling) not-so-good ones even though it may be brutally honest. We all have bad experiences at times, but when you find a gem like this one, I felt I had to share.
She tells me she has to leave at 4 am to get to Cavite to her job. Awesome! Not a clinger. Another thing. She does not do is send me these mindless texts all day! We all know how annoying that is.
I find out her mom lives in Tondo and she rents a room in Cavite, so she only sees her mom every weekend. The independence gives her the freedom to do what she just did with me. I was wondering what will happen now, is she going to drive me nuts and fall in love? I took a couple of going away pics, not knowing if I will be able to fit her into my schedule again.
I get this text message as she is on the jeepney to work: "Just kept your picture in your phone not on your facebook hahahaha. Because my mother is active on facebook and I don't want to see her my picture in hotel my mother and relatives so strictly. ".
Our liaison was a secret! She just wanted to be boned by a porinner. Well, boned she was.
The next text says "You know my pussy is so hurt hahahaha because your is too big haha".
That made my day.
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Nice story Free2! Thanks.
I have done some first steps on the on line 'market' but so far I haven't been really successful. But I can blame that on myself because I'm just too damn lazy I guess. It really takes a lot of time to go through all the responses and to chat with the girls.
I made up a catchy and humorous phrase for the 'what's up?' line in my WeChat profile, added 2 recent pics (and not even really good ones) and I was blown away by the number of responses I got. Something like 20 to 25 responses in 48 hours! Including some responses from professional massage girls (I was staying near Burgos) and even a few gays by the way.
So I can give this tip to anyone who wants to try it out: don't reply right away to all the responses you get. I suggest to wait at least 24 hours and then select the most promising ones.
After quite a lot of chatting with several candidates I could finally make an appointment with a cute 19 yo to have a coffee at a Starbucks nearby. She came with a 28 yo friend (only average looking) and it soon became clear why. This 19 yo was dramatically shy. She has hardly uttered a word, her friend did almost all the talking. Now I don't mind so much if a girl is shy but she was extremely shy and beside that she seemed to live in a different universe. With some girls (most of the time they are below 20) I just can't seem to connect because our worlds are too different. So I didn't invite her to my room which was a damn pity because she was really cute.
Another promising candidate was a good looking 21 yo student who was eager to come to my hotel to give me 'massage'. However she was busy with school and a part time job and said she would come back to me to make an appointment. By the time she came back to me it was already 11 PM and I just had a session with a lovely massage girl so I declined. And the next day I was heading for Angeles so she's still on my to do list.
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[QUOTE=Free2;1682702]I get this text message as she is on the jeepney to work: "Just kept your picture in your phone not on your facebook hahahaha. Because my mother is active on facebook and I don't want to see her my picture in hotel my mother and relatives so strictly. ".
Our liaison was a secret! She just wanted to be boned by a porinner. Well, boned she was.
The next text says "You know my pussy is so hurt hahahaha because your is too big haha".
That made my day.[/QUOTE]Excellent report big guy!
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Unpacking Rum Buddy's experience
[QUOTE=BukoMax;1682321]Yes I believe it was for the taxi ride to the Airport Hotel. It is a five minute walk from the airport! Rooms start around 2500 php. The porter and the lady probably got a cut of the 1300 php! Oh well.[/QUOTE]Airport Hotel is a five minute walk from Terminal One, a ten or twelve minute walk from Terminal Two, but absolutely a taxi ride if you arrive at Terminal Three, as Rum Buddy presumably did. It sounds to me like he arrived at Terminal Three, and somebody directed him to the white ticket taxis. Relative to the fares they have quoted me for getting to Makati or Ermita, I would have expected the fare to Airport Hotel (right in front of Terminal One) at perhaps 500 pesos. How it got to 1300 pesos sounds like, as be Max suggests, that others took a cut, assuming RB was a newb with potential for exploitation. Bottom line, RB paid about 700-800 more than he should have. So he got gouged for about 16 USD. And Filipino leaders wonder why their country can't realize its potential as a tourist destination.
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Just ask
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1682731]Nice story Free2! Thanks.
I have done some first steps on the on line 'market' but so far I haven't been really successful. But I can blame that on myself because I'm just too damn lazy I guess. It really takes a lot of time to go through all the responses and to chat with the girls.
I made up a catchy and humorous phrase for the 'what's up?' line in my WeChat profile, added 2 recent pics (and not even really good ones) and I was blown away by the number of responses I got. Something like 20 to 25 responses in 48 hours! Including some responses from professional massage girls (I was staying near Burgos) and even a few gays by the way.
So I can give this tip to anyone who wants to try it out: don't reply right away to all the responses you get. I suggest to wait at least 24 hours and then select the most promising ones.
After quite a lot of chatting with several candidates I could finally make an appointment with a cute 19 yo to have a coffee at a Starbucks nearby. She came with a 28 yo friend (only average looking) and it soon became clear why. This 19 yo was dramatically shy. She has hardly uttered a word, her friend did almost all the talking. Now I don't mind so much if a girl is shy but she was extremely shy and beside that she seemed to live in a different universe. With some girls (most of the time they are below 20) I just can't seem to connect because our worlds are too different. So I didn't invite her to my room which was a damn pity because she was really cute.
Another promising candidate was a good looking 21 yo student who was eager to come to my hotel to give me 'massage'. However she was busy with school and a part time job and said she would come back to me to make an appointment. By the time she came back to me it was already 11 PM and I just had a session with a lovely massage girl so I declined. And the next day I was heading for Angeles so she's still on my to do list.[/QUOTE]I think that before I left the cutie I would have just straight out asked for what I wanted, what have you go to lose? You would be surprised at how many would just jump at the chance to make some cash, even though they are shy on other levels. Once you got her into the room she could have been a sexual dynamo, or the worst case scenario you would be humping a beautiful star fish LOL.
Happy pooning, L A T.
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[QUOTE=SkipKost;1682855] And Filipino leaders wonder why their country can't realize its potential as a tourist destination.[/QUOTE]I am not sure that they put that much thought into it. You have been here a long time, when was the last time you saw the Philipiino leaders do anything besides pad their own accounts with government money.
From the Barangay Captains and up, the "face" they present to their constituents is primarily on how many posters / jeepney stands / trike stands and small trucks they can plaster their names on.
The Philippines Tourism Campaign "More Fun in the Philippines would seem to be a good one but I am also here. . . . I am not sure where they actually market outside of the Philippines. I know there are plenty of the Malayasian tourism ads on TV here.
I do like to tell the girls that since they are part of the Filipino population here. . . . that it is their responsibility to make sure I (as a tourist) am having fun. It is their job.
The rest of the time, just realize that the entire culture is busy trying to separate us from our money. I am pretty sure they do it with their own as well. . . Since other that family (sometimes) it is all "ME FIRST".
Munch.
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[QUOTE=SkipKost;1682855]Airport Hotel is a five minute walk from Terminal One, a ten or twelve minute walk from Terminal Two, but absolutely a taxi ride if you arrive at Terminal Three, as Rum Buddy presumably did. It sounds to me like he arrived at Terminal Three, and somebody directed him to the white ticket taxis. Relative to the fares they have quoted me for getting to Makati or Ermita, I would have expected the fare to Airport Hotel (right in front of Terminal One) at perhaps 500 pesos. How it got to 1300 pesos sounds like, as be Max suggests, that others took a cut, assuming RB was a newb with potential for exploitation. Bottom line, RB paid about 700-800 more than he should have. So he got gouged for about 16 USD. And Filipino leaders wonder why their country can't realize its potential as a tourist destination.[/QUOTE]They really do try it on. I wanted to get to Mall of Asia which I knew was well under P200 for a meter taxi (the return ride was P120 - not sure if taxis have an airport toll fee? ) Anyway, 10 pm after 21 hours of driving to the airport and flying with no sleep, headed for the taxi queue, too long, accosted by several uniformed men with clipboards, offered P900 for MoA, laughed and walked away, eventually found one that took P700. I knew it was still way too much but what else am I to do (go upstairs, doh! ) Got a chit with P700 plus P50 tip written on it. Halfway enroute the driver asks how much I paid, he shakes his head, and also says the tip doesn't go to him. It goes to the touts. Could've been lying, who knows. They prey on weary travellers and some of us weary travellers give them that satisfaction.
Changing the subject, after my last experience arriving with Philippine Airlines from abroad, taking 2. 5 hours to get through immigration and customs, it was extremely pleasant to arrive on Delta, have zero wait for immigration (literally walked up to a booth with nobody waiting), collect bags, and on the street 15 minutes later.
Free2: good report. Thanks for sharing.
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[QUOTE=Simmer;1683045]They really do try it on. I wanted to get to Mall of Asia which I knew was well under P200 for a meter taxi (the return ride was P120 - not sure if taxis have an airport toll fee? ) Anyway, 10 pm after 21 hours of driving to the airport and flying with no sleep, headed for the taxi queue, too long, accosted by several uniformed men with clipboards, offered P900 for MoA, laughed and walked away, eventually found one that took P700. I knew it was still way too much but what else am I to do (go upstairs, doh! ) Got a chit with P700 plus P50 tip written on it. Halfway enroute the driver asks how much I paid, he shakes his head, and also says the tip doesn't go to him.
[/QUOTE]NAIA's reputation as one of the world's worst airports is based not only on its outmoded, inadequate facilities, its single runway and poor amenities, but also on the petty thieves responsible for the exterior services. The reputation is well-deserved. As I think I've mentioned in prior posts, recently I've begun using Uber as a means of circumventing the usual taxi mess. I activate the app as I'm getting off the plane, and usually by the time I've arrived outside, my car and driver are within five minutes or so of wherever I happen to be standing. Two weeks ago (the last time I used the service) the cost of the ride from Terminal 3 to the Fairmont in Makati was significantly less than Php200. For those who don't like using Uber, I suggest the white coupon taxis which charge a flat, fixed rated of Php330 from Terminal 1 or 2 to most areas of Makati.
GE.
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[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang;1682867]I think that before I left the cutie I would have just straight out asked for what I wanted, what have you go to lose? You would be surprised at how many would just jump at the chance to make some cash, even though they are shy on other levels. Once you got her into the room she could have been a sexual dynamo, or the worst case scenario you would be humping a beautiful star fish LOL.
Happy pooning, L A T.[/QUOTE]I thought about inviting her to my room but there was only one pro (her looks) and for the rest there were only cons:
A. She was terribly shy. There was hardly any conversation possible.
B. She seemed to be living in a parallel universe, which made it even more difficult to converse.
C. She never had a boy friend. Nevertheless she was not a virgin anymore so she probably had one or more one night stands.
D. She didn't seem to like me very much, which probably has to do with B.
So a sexual dynamo? Maybe because you never know but not very likely (not with me anyway). And usually I cannot get it up for a star fish and even if I get it up I do not really enjoy it.
I thought about inviting them both for a second but then I would probably have shagged the older and less attractive one the most with the pretty one only watching, while paying double.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1683052]NAIA's reputation as one of the world's worst airports is based not only on its outmoded, inadequate facilities, its single runway and poor amenities, but also on the petty thieves responsible for the exterior services. The reputation is well-deserved. As I think I've mentioned in prior posts, recently I've begun using Uber as a means of circumventing the usual taxi mess. I activate the app as I'm getting off the plane, and usually by the time I've arrived outside, my car and driver are within five minutes or so of wherever I happen to be standing. Two weeks ago (the last time I used the service) the cost of the ride from Terminal 3 to the Fairmont in Makati was significantly less than Php200. For those who don't like using Uber, I suggest the white coupon taxis which charge a flat, fixed rated of Php330 from Terminal 1 or 2 to most areas of Makati.
GE.[/QUOTE]Do they not use the 2nd runway then? I thought, at least from several years ago, that the smaller planes used the shorter runway which runs at 90 degrees to the longer runway I think. I am happy to be corrected, just curious. But yeah, I've used all three (terminals over the years and they're pretty crap. I found the most annoying to be the Philippine Airlines terminal (I forget which number) where you go through two X-rays, buy some drink airside, and then have to discard said drink because you're the opposite side of a bloody tensabarrier because you're not allowed drinks through the 3rd security barrier. What is the point of the 2nd security then? And maybe I'm ashamed or maybe I'm not but it was so easily defeated that the "security" was ridiculous. But I have been in worse airports, at least in terms of basic functionality. Rio de Janeiro, for example, was barren and soulless. Istanbul was unorganised chaos with no lines but crowds elbowing their way everywhere. Even Narita this time wasn't that interesting. Just a couple of tiny cafes and some expensive duty frees.
Anyway, yes I could have been a lot more pro-active in getting a cheaper ride and will plan much better next time. I must admit, this is the 2nd time arriving in the Philippines on my own, so my Filipino wife usually handles the negotiations while I wait out of sight. I *think* my previous arrival was a hotel shuttle so I didn't have these hassles. This time was to a private condo so no hotel shuttle available.
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A terminal 3
I agree with GE.
Go for the more expensive white, Yellow not worth the wait.
Or.
Out of the doors of the airport turn left and walk for about 1/3 mile to catch on streets.
I have had 2 hour waits and 3 hour wait before I got a bit smarter.
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[QUOTE=Simmer;1683102]But yeah, I've used all three (terminals over the years and they're pretty crap. I found the most annoying to be the Philippine Airlines terminal (I forget which number) where you go through two X-rays, buy some drink airside, and then have to discard said drink because you're the opposite side of a bloody tensabarrier because you're not allowed drinks through the 3rd security barrier. What is the point of the 2nd security then? And maybe I'm ashamed or maybe I'm not but it was so easily defeated that the "security" was ridiculous.
But I have been in worse airports, at least in terms of basic functionality. Rio de Janeiro, for example, was barren and soulless. Istanbul was unorganised chaos with no lines but crowds elbowing their way everywhere. Even Narita this time wasn't that interesting. Just a couple of tiny cafes and some expensive duty frees.[/QUOTE]Is Centennial Terminal 2 and I am doing my best never to fly through it again. I use T3 which has is moments also I know but PAL takes the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] at times.
Worse airports? Rio is fine in my estimation, try Djibouti (climbing over the carousel to grab my bags before someone stole them), Saudi Arabia (3-4 hrs waiting line while the officers make / answer personal calls, get tea, wander off for a chat with a mate. Am sure we all have our 'favourites".
As for taxis, GE is right. But watch out for the scams at T3 with the privateers some of whom use the white taxi (440 pesos to Burgos fixed rate). Just say when asked if I like to "avail" - "yes is 440 correct" then they turn away and point to the taxi stand.
Makes tourists feel so welcome LOL.
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Naia
Sorry Simmer, I should have been more descriptive. In fact there are two runways running perpendicular to each other. However, the airport is only able to use one at a time. Thus, only one plane can take off or land at a time. Plus, the ground equipment that at modern airports permits several take offs or landings per runway per hour is old and outmoded at NAIA, so such efficiencies are not possible. As I recall, the critical ground equipment was declared obsolete about ten years ago and was scheduled for replacement. Unsurprisingly, it's never been replaced.
What's needed obviously is a new airport in a new location, and San Miguel has proposed to build one and in fact submitted a proposal to do so more than a year ago. I doubt that anything will come of it. Compounding the problem of the air transport system is the state of provincial airports. In Mindanao, for example, I'm told that there are no civilian airports with radar, with the radar coverage provided out of Cebu or Manila. Some have contended that the dearth or radars leaves holes in the coverage, but such details fall well outside my ken. I do know that there was a long op ed piece in the Inquirer a couple of weeks ago lamenting that fact that neighboring Indonesia is spending hundreds of millions of dollars modernizing more than 40 of its airports to become more competitive, while the Government of the Philippines does little or nothing to improve its air transport system.
GE.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1683195]Sorry Simmer, I should have been more descriptive. In fact there are two runways running perpendicular to each other. However, the airport is only able to use one at a time. Thus, only one plane can take off or land at a time. Plus, the ground equipment that at modern airports permits several take offs or landings per runway per hour is old and outmoded at NAIA, so such efficiencies are not possible. As I recall, the critical ground equipment was declared obsolete about ten years ago and was scheduled for replacement. Unsurprisingly, it's never been replaced.[/QUOTE]Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Cross-runways at any airport cannot be utilized at the same time, it risks the aircraft running into each other. Runway choice and direction (pilots call it the 'Active') is chosen based on wind / weather conditions, and it remains in place for all aircraft to use until another runway / direction is chosen (based on wind direction / weather). At most airports, even small airports, you will see a windsock. That thing determines wind direction and speed (if any), and reports it to a system called ATIS. Aircraft tune a radio to the ATIS frequency for each airport and listen to a pre-recorded message that sounds a bit like: "Modesto traffic. Runway three-zero (compass heading 300 degrees, and the name of the runway) active. Winds from one-two-zero (compass heading) at 5 (mph). Blah blah". The system updates itself several times an hour if wind direction or speed changes the windsock. Only one runway at a time can be active (if multiple runways cross). If they don't cross (parallel), multiple runways can be utilized at the same time.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1683195]Compounding the problem of the air transport system is the state of provincial airports. In Mindanao, for example, I'm told that there are no civilian airports with radar, with the radar coverage provided out of Cebu or Manila.GE.[/QUOTE]Someone told me a year ago that there are no airports in phils outside of NAIA / Clark / Cebu that have runway lights for night landings nor working radar.
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Thanks GoodEnough, I understand what you mean. WestCoast1, two runways crossing each other can be used together though obviously not at exactly the same time. La Guardia in New York is probably the most well known for that. I don't know enough about their ops. Maybe they use one for landings, the other for take-offs. Let's say one plane comes in to land on one runway, another plane can be getting lined up on the other. As soon as the landing one is clear of the intersection, the one taking off can start its roll. But it has a very short window presumably, because the next landing is already lined up a few miles out.
In Mindano the airport at Davao is supposedly 24 hour so it must have runway lighting. It has Cat 1 landing instruments (I'm not sure if Cat 1 is the minimum or the best) and at least appears to have radar coverage from a quick Google but again, not 100% sure.
As to whether any of it works is another question entirely!
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[QUOTE=Simmer;1683273]Thanks GoodEnough, I understand what you mean. WestCoast1, two runways crossing each other can be used together though obviously not at exactly the same time. La Guardia in New York is probably the most well known for that. I don't know enough about their ops. Maybe they use one for landings, the other for take-offs. Let's say one plane comes in to land on one runway, another plane can be getting lined up on the other. As soon as the landing one is clear of the intersection, the one taking off can start its roll. But it has a very short window presumably, because the next landing is already lined up a few miles out.
In Mindano the airport at Davao is supposedly 24 hour so it must have runway lighting. It has Cat 1 landing instruments (I'm not sure if Cat 1 is the minimum or the best) and at least appears to have radar coverage from a quick Google but again, not 100% sure.
As to whether any of it works is another question entirely![/QUOTE]The main runway 6/24 is 3410 meters long and capable of handing all aircraft. It has precision instrument approaches to both ends. The crossing runway 13/31 is much shorter at 1759 meters and is not capable of handling any wide body traffic and would be considered relatively short even for B737's and A320's. There is only a non-precision approach to runway 13 nothing for 31.
The runways can be used simultaneously because they don't actually intersect, except for the departure path off of runway 13. The paved portion that does intersect is not considered part of the actual runway, it would be considered a stop way if taking off on runway 13. There are restrictions on the use of runway 31 for takeoff by narrow body jets so the best case scenario is for runway 6 and runway 13 to be in use at the same time. That would allow the most traffic volume.
I'm sure the air traffic control authority has specific rules for how they operate different runway configurations at NAIA.
Even Clark (Angeles City) only uses one runway. The old parallel runway is out of service, most likely due to disrepair.
It would be nice for them to build a modern airport, but doubtful that is going to happen anytime soon. The best bet would be to repair the other runway at Clark, or build a better parallel (the current one is actually too close for simultaneous instrument approaches) and then build a high speed train into central Manila from there. A nice new midfield terminal for passengers would make it up to standard with the modern world.
Rogue5
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[QUOTE=Simmer;1683273]As to whether any of it works is another question entirely![/QUOTE]Welcome to pilipines!
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[QUOTE=Simmer;1683102]Do they not use the 2nd runway then?[/QUOTE]Yes, they do use the second cross runway for smaller planes like the A320. But it is operated just as if it is a single runway because they can't have planes taking off simultaneously on both runways!
[QUOTE=Simmer;1683102]I found the most annoying to be the Philippine Airlines terminal (I forget which number) where you go through two X-rays, buy some drink airside, and then have to discard said drink because you're the opposite side of a bloody tensabarrier because you're not allowed drinks through the 3rd security barrier. What is the point of the 2nd security then?[/QUOTE]Good question. Last week I went through the first two securities at NAIA T3 and bought some water and juice in the duty free area only to have it confiscated 1 minute later at the more thorough cabin bag search at the check-in gate. This was on a Cebu Pacific flight to Sydney, and the officials attributed this to the Australian immigration requirements. I suggested why don't you check and clear all drinks and liquids purchased by the shops in the duty free area, and that was greeted with a "huh?"
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1683052]NAIA's reputation as one of the world's worst airports is ......... well-deserved.[/QUOTE]I agree with that!
I hold a Philippines Resident Retiree's Visa and holders, if they arrange early enough, can be met and picked up at the airport and transferred downtown. At least that happened to me a year or two ago returning from overseas. A sweet young thing from the Philippines Retirement Authority was waiting at the end of the air-bridge holding a card with my name on it. We were advance tracked through immigration, she called up the car on walky-talky and my car was there for me by the time I had cleared the bag carousel. I will know in a few weeks if this service still applies.
KongKing.
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[QUOTE=KongKing;1683373]Yes, they do use the second cross runway for smaller planes like the A320. But it is operated just as if it is a single runway because they can't have planes taking off simultaneously on both runways![/QUOTE]That is correct, A320 with low take off weight is the biggest planes able to depart 13/31 RW. With strong headwind no problem for widebodies to land at the crossrunway but if it is ever beeing done I don't know. Mostly planes from T3 and T4 uses the 13/31 RW. As for getting a more efficient airport handling the best bet would be to build a new parallel 6/24 RW (away from the terminal buildings and away from the Resort World area). I see mostly only shanty houses and a few cargo hold (must be movable) on that side. Then we could get rid off long wait / hold for departure / take off clearance. Due to old equipment and logistic the ATC at NAIA require a hole lot more space between arriving aircrafts than beeing normal at a developed western airport facility. Last time departure with Thai we were holding no more than 7 arrivals before leaving phil soil. I did not clock them down but it must have been 3/4 min between the arriving ones without Thai beeing giving the take off clearance in between. An extra RW could atleast speed things up a bit when arrivals / departures no longer conflicting. Or atleast install some new equipment so ground handling, dep / arr could work more smoothly / effective.
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I don't think I've ever waited more than a minute or two after taxiing to take off, or done more than one loop in the hold to land! I guess there are busier times of day than others and I just have been lucky mostly. The thing is, it's not a busy airport at all. There are plenty of *single* runway airports that are far busier. But then of course they have the equipment to handle it. I did recently notice all the inbounds circling (on a radar app) while an emergency came in. I think it delayed all the inbounds by the time it took to do one lap of the hold! When I say all the inbounds. There was just one within 50 miles of the airport!
[QUOTE=Skogis;1683435]That is correct, A320 with low take off weight is the biggest planes able to depart 13/31 RW. With strong headwind no problem for widebodies to land at the crossrunway but if it is ever beeing done I don't know. Mostly planes from T3 and T4 uses the 13/31 RW. As for getting a more efficient airport handling the best bet would be to build a new parallel 6/24 RW (away from the terminal buildings and away from the Resort World area). I see mostly only shanty houses and a few cargo hold (must be movable) on that side. Then we could get rid off long wait / hold for departure / take off clearance. Due to old equipment and logistic the ATC at NAIA require a hole lot more space between arriving aircrafts than beeing normal at a developed western airport facility. Last time departure with Thai we were holding no more than 7 arrivals before leaving phil soil. I did not clock them down but it must have been 3/4 min between the arriving ones without Thai beeing giving the take off clearance in between. An extra RW could atleast speed things up a bit when arrivals / departures no longer conflicting. Or atleast install some new equipment so ground handling, dep / arr could work more smoothly / effective.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SkipKost;1682855]Airport Hotel is a five minute walk from Terminal One, a ten or twelve minute walk from Terminal Two, but absolutely a taxi ride if you arrive at Terminal Three, as Rum Buddy presumably did. It sounds to me like he arrived at Terminal Three, and somebody directed him to the white ticket taxis. Relative to the fares they have quoted me for getting to Makati or Ermita, I would have expected the fare to Airport Hotel (right in front of Terminal One) at perhaps 500 pesos. How it got to 1300 pesos sounds like, as be Max suggests, that others took a cut, assuming RB was a newb with potential for exploitation. Bottom line, RB paid about 700-800 more than he should have. So he got gouged for about 16 USD. And Filipino leaders wonder why their country can't realize its potential as a tourist destination.[/QUOTE]Never accept or offer a quoted price for a taxi in the Philippines especially when you are a newbie to the country and don't have any real knowledge of what the ride should approximately cost. Always ask for the meter price and if the meter is 'broken' ... just change cabs!
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[QUOTE=OsakaGin11;1683735]Never accept or offer a quoted price for a taxi in the Philippines especially when you are a newbie to the country and don't have any real knowledge of what the ride should approximately cost. Always ask for the meter price and if the meter is 'broken' ... just change cabs![/QUOTE]There are no meters in the white coupon cabs. As GE indicated they operate on a set fee according to destination, but I'm thinking the fee they quoted me in August for Terminal 3 to Makati was more than the 330php that GE recalls. What I was quoted was the 440 WR mentions--or maybe more. The only metered cab options from NAIA are yellow cabs, which have notoriously long waiting lines, or regular cabs, if you know how to track them down and don't mind dragging luggage to the departure level.
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[QUOTE=Rogue5;1683297]
The runways can be used simultaneously because they don't actually intersect, except for the departure path off of runway 13. The paved portion that does intersect is not considered part of the actual runway, it would be considered a stop way if taking off on runway 13. There are restrictions on the use of runway 31 for takeoff by narrow body jets so the best case scenario is for runway 6 and runway 13 to be in use at the same time. That would allow the most traffic volume.[/QUOTE]I have seen this combination in operation at NAIA. A couple of smaller turboprops, maybe Dash 8's, took of on heading 31 (to the Northwest) and less than a minute later a plane was either landing or taking off on heading 6 (Northeast) on the longer runway. I presume the smaller turboprop does not put up enough prop wash to be a problem for the larger planes using the longer runway.
Last August on the night I was supposed to arrive from Tokyo a Saudi plane skidded off either the runway or a critical taxiway near one end of the 6-24 runway. No damage, but the plane got stuck in the mud and grass and apparently blocked traffic for 6-24 for 12 hours or more. They continued to land planes up to A320's on 13-31, but everything bigger that needed 6-24 got diverted or sent back (including my plane) to their originating airports.
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Moving Taxis
[QUOTE=OsakaGin11;1683735]Never accept or offer a quoted price for a taxi in the Philippines especially when you are a newbie to the country and don't have any real knowledge of what the ride should approximately cost. Always ask for the meter price and if the meter is 'broken' ... just change cabs![/QUOTE]Sound advise.
I repeat advise I read on the board some time ago. ALWAYS use a moving taxi. The taxis that hang out outside a hotel or a bar waiting for a customer will have to overcharge you for the time that they are hanging out and not making money.
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[QUOTE=SkipKost;1683969]There are no meters in the white coupon cabs. As GE indicated they operate on a set fee according to destination, but I'm thinking the fee they quoted me in August for Terminal 3 to Makati was more than the 330php that GE recalls. What I was quoted was the 440 WR mentions--or maybe more. .[/QUOTE]There is Makati 1 and 2 so the Fairmont where GE would hang out a lot is closer to Glorietta (my center point of reference) then say Burgos which is where I go and I pay PHP 440.
I have seen huge queues for the yellow cab and the Uber seems popular and cheaper also.
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[QUOTE=Pompetus;1683988]Sound advise.
I repeat advise I read on the board some time ago. ALWAYS use a moving taxi. The taxis that hang out outside a hotel or a bar waiting for a customer will have to overcharge you for the time that they are hanging out and not making money.[/QUOTE]Watch out for this scam with some metered taxis at NAIA. The driver hands you an official-looking-but-not, laminated fare list and he wants to play make believe with you and your wallet. "Stop, please. Yes, really, stop. Turn on the meter or let me out." Before getting in the taxi make sure you ask whether or not he'll use the meter; he may ask for an extra 50 pesos, which isn't unreasonable. If he has your luggage in the boot already then your exit is just a bigger hassle. BTW, this was a moving taxi that had just dropped off a passenger at NAIA terminal 1.
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Mongering through clubbing
I arrived at LA cafe at 10:30 pm hoping to find a find cute gal that would accompany me to various bars and clubs before retiring in my condo. It never happened. All the girls in LA cafe are mercenary and treat this experience as work. They wanted ridiculous amount and are arguing over what time they will go home. Also very few women at LA cafe were remotely good looking.
I had better luck hitting Exclusiv and Zzyzyx. Had a good time buying girls at Exclusiv drinks (400 pesos each) and dancing / flirting with them. They were super hot IMHO. Once I finish playing there, off to Zzyzyx. Had a good time shopping for good looking women. There were 2 women that I fancy. After dancing and holding hands with both of them, I decided to pick the one that was the friendliest. Unlike LA cafe, no mercenary attitude. Yes, there were some negotiation on price, but everything was pleasant afterwards. It was 4:30 am. Decided to leave.
Overall, comparing mongering at la cafe vs. At zzyzyx was night and day. I'm a better. T looking young Asian American, and I felt discriminated in LA cafe. The half decent women there had the golden pussy syndrome.
Yet in Zzyzyx I was treated much better. Women were much hotter and they were easy to flirt. As a young decent guy with some game, your best choices are using clubbing for mongering over these "Thermae cafe" type establishments.
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Interesting
[QUOTE=VIPhawaii;1685102]
I had better luck hitting Exclusiv and Zzyzyx. Yes, there were some negotiation on price, but everything was pleasant afterwards. Your best choices are using clubbing for mongering over these "Thermae cafe" type establishments.[/QUOTE]Good post! Forgive my ignorance. I have never heard of Exclusiv and ZZyzyx. Expatiate on these please. The girl that you met there, She must have been a freelancer? How much did you pay her? What do you mean by a "Thermae cafe?" Thank you and I again apologize for my lack of knowledge.
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Airport bus at Terminal 3
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1684153]Watch out for this scam with some metered taxis at NAIA.[/QUOTE]I found a much cheaper, but not so comfortable way to go from Terminal 3 in Manila to a hotel in the city.
As I left the Airport after 10 pm and went out, naturally many men offered to me "private transport" to the hotel. They quoted up to extortionate 1500 Peso! I used Manila Airport before sometimes, and know how to act. Normally I go to the departure level and look for a white metered taxi there. But it was extreme crowded and I calculated to wait for more than one hour. So I went down again to the arrival level. But same disaster, also many people waited for a taxi. The time to wait would have been surely also more than one hour. So I turned right and walked a few meters to the white Airport busses. They drive in any directions. I choose the bus to Pasay. I had to wait maybe 5 minutes, till the bus was full. The only disadvantage is, you must take your luggage into the bus, they have no separate baggage partition. But the prize is unbeatable and also its mostly much faster than to wait for a metered taxi. You have to pay 20 Peso to Pasay. I left the bus at EDSA street and took a metered taxi after a few seconds to Tune Hotel in Ermita. I paid less than 100 Peso to the hotel.
At Terminal 2 it sure the same with Airport busses, but there I never needed, because I never had to wait long there for a metered taxi.
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No saving at all
[QUOTE=OldGerman;1685235]I found a much cheaper, but not so comfortable way to go from Terminal 3 in Manila to a hotel in the city.
As I left the Airport after 10 pm and went out, naturally many men offered to me "private transport" to the hotel. They quoted up to extortionate 1500 Peso! I used Manila Airport before sometimes, and know how to act. Normally I go to the departure level and look for a white metered taxi there. But it was extreme crowded and I calculated to wait for more than one hour. So I went down again to the arrival level. But same disaster, also many people waited for a taxi. The time to wait would have been surely also more than one hour. So I turned right and walked a few meters to the white Airport busses. They drive in any directions. I choose the bus to Pasay. I had to wait maybe 5 minutes, till the bus was full. The only disadvantage is, you must take your luggage into the bus, they have no separate baggage partition. But the prize is unbeatable and also its mostly much faster than to wait for a metered taxi. You have to pay 20 Peso to Pasay. I left the bus at EDSA street and took a metered taxi after a few seconds to Tune Hotel in Ermita. I paid less than 100 Peso to the hotel.
At Terminal 2 it sure the same with Airport busses, but there I never needed, because I never had to wait long there for a metered taxi.[/QUOTE]To Old German.
That no saving at all if you get a meter taxi from Terminal 3 to Tune in Malate is should only 120 p why go through all this.
Fast eddie 48.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1684153]Watch out for this scam with some metered taxis at NAIA. The driver hands you an official-looking-but-not, laminated fare list and he wants to play make believe with you and your wallet. "Stop, please. Yes, really, stop. Turn on the meter or let me out." Before getting in the taxi make sure you ask whether or not he'll use the meter; he may ask for an extra 50 pesos, which isn't unreasonable. If he has your luggage in the boot already then your exit is just a bigger hassle. BTW, this was a moving taxi that had just dropped off a passenger at NAIA terminal 1.[/QUOTE]I am not sure this is a scam. There are taxis that are metered and there are taxi / limos that are pay fixed price.
When I lived in Makati and I needed to go to the airport at an unusual time or when I had a lot of luggage, I used to order one of these limo taxis using a service. They would be about twice the cost of a meter taxi but you could order them to your home and they would be on time and would wait for 10 minutes for you gratis and call you when they arrived. I don't think there is much advantage to taking them from the airport especially if there is a meter taxi available there.
When there is bad weather which invariably involves flooding, you are glad for anything that brings you home. How many times I was stuck sleeping at the airport until I could get a cab of any kind who would being me home for any money!?
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You may save time not using the taxi meter.
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1684153]Watch out for this scam with some metered taxis at NAIA. The driver hands you an official-looking-but-not, laminated fare list and he wants to play make believe with you and your wallet. "Stop, please. Yes, really, stop. Turn on the meter or let me out." Before getting in the taxi make sure you ask whether or not he'll use the meter; he may ask for an extra 50 pesos, which isn't unreasonable. If he has your luggage in the boot already then your exit is just a bigger hassle. BTW, this was a moving taxi that had just dropped off a passenger at NAIA terminal 1.[/QUOTE]Yeah. I had that happen. The fare list form seems to give authenticity to the whole thing. I get out or insist on putting on the meter. However, if you strike some deal with the driver in advance, then he will try to get there as quickly as he can. If he uses the meter, he won't be too concerned if he gets stuck in traffic or takes longer since the meter is still clicking. So you may save time if you agree to his offer for a fare without using the meter. Better yet, make a lower counter offer.
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Taxi at NAIA T3 - scam or not??
My last 3 arrivals into T3 I used the fixed price alternatives. From T3 to Ascott Makati I have been quoted the following prices: 700,1150 and 1650 php. In every case they proudly did show me laminated (probably homemade)"official" pricelists. I did never ask to see one as time is everything and when I see huge lines for the metered transportation I just want to get out of there no matter what as quickly as possible without any hazzles. They show me the pricelist anyway so they show they are "legit". Allways have to prepay ofcourse. I have found if there is huge lines at the arrival level also same will apply at departure level.
But I get a feel the fixed price taxies / transportation use different prices based on how long the lines are for I e metered taxies. I recall to notice when beeing quoted 700 php there was not many people around and I picked the fixed one as I allways compare against how much a hotelcar would costs to pick me up (1800 php)so in short not to bad.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1685472]My last 3 arrivals into T3 I used the fixed price alternatives. From T3 to Ascott Makati I have been quoted the following prices: 700,1150 and 1650 php. In every case they proudly did show me laminated (probably homemade)"official" pricelists. I did never ask to see one as time is everything and when I see huge lines for the metered transportation I just want to get out of there no matter what as quickly as possible without any
But I get a feel the fixed price taxies / transportation use different prices based on how long the lines are for I e metered taxies. I recall to notice when beeing quoted 700 php there was not many people around.[/QUOTE]You are overpaying regardless of whether there is a line. First of all, I never had issues with long lines. It moves very quickly because there's always a lot of taxis.
Also I stayed in Makati condos, and it has only cost be about 130-200 pesos with meter. I insist on using the skyway (I pay the 20 pesos toll). Big time saver.
If you enjoy paying more for the same goods and service, by all means do it.
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[QUOTE=Pompetus;1685120]Good post! Forgive my ignorance. I have never heard of Exclusiv and ZZyzyx. Expatiate on these please. The girl that you met there, She must have been a freelancer? How much did you pay her? What do you mean by a "Thermae cafe?" Thank you and I again apologize for my lack of knowledge.[/QUOTE]Google is your friend. As for prices, it really depends on how slow the night is and how much they like you. If they are letting you grind them and touch them everywhere. Also kissing a little, then they would have no problems making a little less than with someone they are absolutely not attracted to. Also it depends on how late it is. Towards the end of the night, they are more desperate as they don't want to take a taxi ride back to their provincial home without some cash for baby [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url].
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It is a kinda scam "fixed price" service. If you turn right and follow, you will come to a big board which is the "legit" fixed price service. Going up further you end up a the meter service.
Last time I returned from overseas they hit me up as I came out. P1150 quoted to Greenbelt. Walked away and the price became p700. They followed me to the fixed price taxi station where the price became p500. Too late. If they would have given me the p500 price when I first came out, I might have used them. Good luck and enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1685472]My last 3 arrivals into T3 I used the fixed price alternatives. From T3 to Ascott Makati I have been quoted the following prices: 700,1150 and 1650 php. In every case they proudly did show me laminated (probably homemade)"official" pricelists. I did never ask to see one as time is everything and when I see huge lines for the metered transportation I just want to get out of there no matter what as quickly as possible without any hazzles. They show me the pricelist anyway so they show they are "legit". Allways have to prepay ofcourse. I have found if there is huge lines at the arrival level also same will apply at departure level.
But I get a feel the fixed price taxies / transportation use different prices based on how long the lines are for I e metered taxies. I recall to notice when beeing quoted 700 php there was not many people around and I picked the fixed one as I allways compare against how much a hotelcar would costs to pick me up (1800 php)so in short not to bad.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Simian;1685420]I am not sure this is a scam. There are taxis that are metered and there are taxi / limos that are pay fixed price.
[/QUOTE]In my case it was a scam. It was the regular metered taxi one finds everywhere in Manila streets. This one had just dropped off a passenger at the departures gate.
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[QUOTE=AsianRain;1685617]It is a kinda scam "fixed price" service. If you turn right and follow, you will come to a big board which is the "legit" fixed price service. Going up further you end up a the meter service.
Last time I returned from overseas they hit me up as I came out. P1150 quoted to Greenbelt. Walked away and the price became p700. They followed me to the fixed price taxi station where the price became p500. Too late. If they would have given me the p500 price when I first came out, I might have used them. Good luck and enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain.[/QUOTE]I just tell them "is 440 pesos yes?" and hen I gesture to go to he real fixed price area to the right as you leave T3. Same every time but annoys me is that the real white taxi are now in the scam. Not going to he queue but causing supply problem and thus you must ay the inflated prices if you arrive at the wrong time and it is busy.
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Arrived on Saturday at Terminal-1 and got into a yellow cab. At destination Makati Palace I had 330 pesos on the clock, it was a smooth and pretty quick ride, so I gave him 400 pesos and all fine with me.
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You read too Fast, Eddie
[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1685390]To Old German.
That no saving at all if you get a meter taxi from Terminal 3 to Tune in Malate is should only 120 p why go through all this.
Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]He said he first checked the departures area and a long wait line existed. Then he checked the departure area (presumably yellow metered taxis), and the line there was long also. He waited only ten minutes for the bus to depart. Doesn't sound like too much to go through to me. Slow down, Eddie, read more carefully, and take time to smell the coffee.
Somebody else posted that the yellow line often moves quite well. That has been my experience. What looks like a long line has for me never taken more than 20 or so minutes. Of course, YMMV.
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[QUOTE=VIPhawaii;1685562]Google is your friend. [/QUOTE]I do not understand that attitude. I remember awhile ago I was in a large city and I asked someone for directions and the guy responded, "What do I look like? An information center. Go buy a map. " That was before smart phones. Today I might get this kind of response. "Google is your friend. " Meaning that I can get an app that will help me with where I am going. You are not the only one on this board with that kind of an attitude. So I won't single you out. Somehow that is part of the culture of this forum. It is regrettable. We also have a RTFF Squad whose members ruthlessly patrol the forum looking for opportunities to hand out RTFF citations to transgressors. What petty horseshit.
You should see the Vietnam board. The regulars there have everyone afraid of sharing any information about where to find girls because places may be raided. But really was it is going on is that a couple of the members are trying to sell their services as guides. Thus they scare contributors into not saying anything specific about where to find girl so that mongers will employ their services.
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[QUOTE=Pompetus;1686027]I do not understand that attitude. I remember awhile ago I was in a large city and I asked someone for directions and the guy responded, "What do I look like? An information center. Go buy a map. " That was before smart phones. Today I might get this kind of response. "Google is your friend. " Meaning that I can get an app that will help me with where I am going. [/QUOTE]I think you are reading too much into what VIPhawaii said Pomp. He has 6 posts; hardly enough to draw attention as a board enforcer.
I understood from his response that he was referring to Google as the quickest easiest way for the poster asking the question to find out what "Thermae" meant. Nobody needs fancy apps or anything except a basic smartphone to access Google. Insert Thermae Cafe into Google and you get everything you need to know, even down to "how to negotiate with a hooker".
The reality is that Google IS your quickest way to try to find out anything for which you need at least some sketchy information. If it doesn't work, go to Plan B, which might be to ask a question on ISG.
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Arrived T3 Sat evening. I had booked the Oxford Suites pick-up at 1,200 P. They sent me a map of where to meet the driver in Arrivals. So, I waited at the appointed spot, and waited. Decide to go look for him and found him at the opposite end of Arrivals. Showed him the map of where I'd been told to meet him. Blank look. He goes and gets the car and we're at the OS in 25 mins. "Tip for me? Sorry, no change fella.
Checked out Mon 09:00. Meter cab from outside hotel to NAIA T3 30 mins and 152 P, plus a tip.
Getting through NAIA on arrival wasn't a problem, just a hell of a long walk through T3. Departing was a pain with the long queue to get bags scanned before getting into the terminal, hopeless PAL check-in (sloooow) and baggage 1 kg in excess of the 10 kg limit to be paid then the long walk again to the domestic departure gates. Saying that, been through worse airports.
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Airport bus
[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1685390]To Old German.
That no saving at all if you get a meter taxi from Terminal 3 to Tune in Malate is should only 120 p why go through all this.
Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Maybe I was misunderstood. I don't look after a few or less peso more to pay for a metered taxi. I only wanted point out, that its a fast way to drive to a hotel, when the waiting time for metered taxis is very long. And in my case after 10 pm it was really long. The taxis arrived very seldom, so I estimated the big crowd and the arriving taxis for one minute. In the end my result was, that my waiting time would surely last more than one hour. So I took a Airport bus and later a taxi at EDSA. Thats all.
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Board Enforcer. Nice Term
[QUOTE=RedKilt;1686041]I think you are reading too much into what VIPhawaii said Pomp. He has 6 posts; hardly enough to draw attention as a board enforcer.
I understood from his response that he was referring to Google as the quickest easiest way for the poster asking the question to find out what "Thermae" meant. Nobody needs fancy apps or anything except a basic smartphone to access Google. Insert Thermae Cafe into Google and you get everything you need to know, even down to "how to negotiate with a hooker".
The reality is that Google IS your quickest way to try to find out anything for which you need at least some sketchy information. If it doesn't work, go to Plan B, which might be to ask a question on ISG.[/QUOTE]Board enforcer. I like the turn of the words you use here. I am always amazed at the literary sophistication of most of our members. Keeping in mind that we prostitution seekers are characterized as abnormal paraphiliacs by the DSM 5.
But I cannot agree with the opinion you expressed. The number of posts is irrelevant. I googled "Thermae Club" and I got no generic description. Perhaps I had to know already what it is in advance in order to hit the nail on the head. On the other hand, German FKK clubs are explained in Wikipedia.
My point is that collegiality on the forum is best served by being helpful. That is plan A. Of course, that may not be possible. After all, The DSM 5 calls us a bunch of freaks.
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[QUOTE=Simmer;1683683]I don't think I've ever waited more than a minute or two after taxiing to take off, or done more than one loop in the hold to land! I guess there are busier times of day than others and I just have been lucky mostly. The thing is, it's not a busy airport at all. There are plenty of *single* runway airports that are far busier. But then of course they have the equipment to handle it. I did recently notice all the inbounds circling (on a radar app) while an emergency came in. I think it delayed all the inbounds by the time it took to do one lap of the hold! When I say all the inbounds. There was just one within 50 miles of the airport![/QUOTE]Totally off the mongering topic. But. Ayala Avenue and Makati Avenue actually used to be Manila airport runways.
Think back in the days of Pan Am, BOAC (who?) and others.
The cute little building called Nilsen Tower, that's now an ok restaurant with high prices, was actually the control tower and the terminal.
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[QUOTE=Pompetus;1687236]. After all, The DSM 5 calls us a bunch of freaks.[/QUOTE][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-5[/URL]
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1687238]Totally off the mongering topic. But. Ayala Avenue and Makati Avenue actually used to be Manila airport runways.
Think back in the days of Pan Am, BOAC (who?) and others.
The cute little building called Nilsen Tower, that's now an ok restaurant with high prices, was actually the control tower and the terminal.[/QUOTE]Holy crap freebieFan, how old are you?! .
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1687238]Think back in the days of Pan Am, BOAC (who?) and others.[/QUOTE]BOAC? That was British Overseas Asian Carriers wasn't it?
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[QUOTE=Pompetus;1686027]I do not understand that attitude. I remember awhile ago I was in a large city and I asked someone for directions and the guy responded, "What do I look like? An information center. Go buy a map. "[/QUOTE]A lot of questions from newbies or lurkers can be characterized as asking for directions in a map store.
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[QUOTE=Pompetus;1687236]I googled "Thermae Club" and I got no generic description. Perhaps I had to know already what it is in advance in order to hit the nail on the head. On the other hand, German FKK clubs are explained in Wikipedia.
My point is that collegiality on the forum is best served by being helpful. That is plan A. Of course, that may not be possible. After all, The DSM 5 calls us a bunch of freaks.[/QUOTE]You should have googled "Thermae Cafe" like RedKilt suggested (not "Thermae Club") and then the first three results are spot on.
And as for the DSM 5 calling us a bunch of freaks: so what? Psychology is not a science.
If you want to be helpful to every newbie and lurker: be my guest.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1687239][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-5[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the link, FF. Because I just wanted to ask what the heck is DSM5? Never heard of it.
Now, there are 18 disorders, which one is ours? I'd like to show off with at least one of them when I go back to home country.
Trauma? Definitely, I'm traumatized by Angeles City and the fallen angels.
Sleepness? Insomnia? Not too bad either, with those LBFMs here.
Any other, better idea?
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[QUOTE=KongKing;1687296]BOAC? That was British Overseas Asian Carriers wasn't it?[/QUOTE]BOAC = British Overseas Airways Corporation (but with our hang to asia it was a good guess, hehe).
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[QUOTE=Pompetus;1687236]characterized as abnormal paraphiliacs by the DSM 5.[/QUOTE]Finally, I have achieved the status I have so desperately been seeking! Hahaha.
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LA Cafe vs. Havana (Makati) vs. A year in Cebu
Reflections on 5 wks in Manila, after 14 months in Cebu.
You can get better, much better, apartment / living short term situations in Makati vs. Cebu. Just remember economies of scale help, and there are tons more apartment buildings in Makati.
I worked in Cebu for over a 14 months in the past. I like that the girls here in Makati where I've been for 5 wks now can be more "cosmopolitan". If you want to find someone for a fling, pay or no pay, you're more like to find a girl here who's more exposed to other countries. I' m realizing that "traditional" means little exposure to the west or even other countries, and open to hook-ups is the opposite. It's that simple. Girls that never had experience out of their cell-phone shop and parents home in Cebu. They may expect 5 dates to get laid. If they have girlfriends that tell them foreigners fuck after 2 meets then they get they move closer to the 2.
_Over 14 months mongering in the PH, my philosophy_.
This is a bone of contention (sometimes a bone that gets better attention). I'm lucky to have some looks and extrovert charm to make the p4 p work for me in the PH. I think everyone should use their advantages to make P4 P the best "value. " That's why fishbowls are kinda dumb. You haven't warmed a girl up with some charm or trust or REAL attraction so she feels a bit more like GF sex. True, though, sometimes that connection which goes beyond just mechanical sex happens just kissing when you've paid the piper!
I do NOT like Havana club in Greenbelt. Many of these girls think they're special because they wear nice cloths and have been with rich guys. This is rich guy central and tourist ground zero. So, get at LEAST a bit away from ground zero. Honestly I think Havana in Greenbelt is for suckers. BTW: I've been working blocks from here for 5 months.
_About LA Cafe_.
I was there on 2 different weekend nights. You do need to do some work. Move around. Talk to the girls. Don't let them come to you! Never let them come to you in any bar is my MO. At LEAST flirt with who you find cute. That works. But wait for the girl that sits with you and she will probably not be you're type.
So first time there found some real amateurs just looking to make a little extra. I like that. I didn't see much of that at club Havana. Maybe none. I wound up with a girl that wouldn't know how to sit in Greenbelt perfectly because she's from the province a few years ago and from central manila. But I give a shit about high-style if I'm looking for a night of boning. She turned out to be amazing. Total GF all night, and was P3000. No way you'll get less than P4000 at Havana and even under p5000 is tough, and all the girls I went w /, after talking up dozens and seeing what their attitude was like, were out to make a lot of money. They can. There are MANY high rollers coming through and these girls get greedy.
Second weekend night at la caf the quality seemed worse. I don't like girls that look super pros, and there are a lot at LA Caf like Havana. But, I found my girl from the last time, and what shocked me is there are bars NEAR LA Caf with a lot of freelancers that are very cute but not cut out for the meat market and loud music of LA Caf. These places look prime. I'll go directly to them next time.
So, my girl from LA caf and I got together about 4 times all together. She wound up being a little TOO much un-aware of how people act in the cities and that was a turn-off when she was getting sick, visited when I called, and decided to hang with me a spit tons of phlem in my sink a lot. BUT, overall she was a complete sweety, a solid 8, very interested in having real conversations. Was cool hearing about her growing up waayyyy off the beaten road or path in a village in the mountains. And, she was not too pushy at any time.
Also consider Tindr if you are younger (I'm in 40's). Have seen other guys do well there. Fi Heart has NOT worked too well for me. I find that 98% of the girls are used to be gamed and / or just want a husband. I've gotten laid from it, but just not many girls out for a hook-up.
Enjoy the life, & treat 'them right.
WL.
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[QUOTE=Pompetus;1687236]. . . SNIP. I googled "Thermae Club" and I got no generic description. Perhaps I had to know already what it is in advance in order to hit the nail on the head. On the other hand, German FKK clubs are explained in Wikipedia.
[/QUOTE]I never used the term "Thermae Club" Pomp. I said Thermae Cafe. When I put that into my Google I get the following headings:
Thermae.
Thermae Cafe inside. . negotiating with hooker.
Nightime Bangkok: Thai girl street walkers at Thermae.
The 4th entry is a series of "Images for Thermae Cafe Bangkok".
I don't think it requires too much intelligence of a board member to work out that if you see the term "Thermae", don't know what it means and decide to google it you will quickly hit on exactly what the OP was referring to.
Anyway, just wanted to clarify.
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La Cafe vs Thermae Cafe vs outside of Home Depot
Geez, I didn't realize how difficult it is for some of the members using a search engine. I think Pompetus could ask his 2-year old grandson how to type "thermae cafe" on google.
La Cafe vs Thermae Cafe vs. "outside of Home Depot". What do these places all have in common? They are "LE turned a blind eye" safe places for employers to employees that do under-the-table work. This is where the mercenary attitude starts. No one wants to be at those establishments; they are all crap holes, but it's way better than working on the streets. They just want to get the highest price and get the fuck out of there.
Zzyzyx and nightclubs, in theory, attract hip women who like to dress up, be seen by their friends, and go have fun. It's a fun place. So, when women "work" there, they should be more relaxed at their environment and are willing to try to have a good time. It seems more natural to pick up working girls at a non-working fun place than at a well-known hooker ebay.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;1687697]I never used the term "Thermae Club" Pomp. I said Thermae Cafe. When I put that into my Google I get the following headings:
Thermae.
Thermae Cafe inside. . negotiating with hooker.
Nightime Bangkok: Thai girl street walkers at Thermae.
The 4th entry is a series of "Images for Thermae Cafe Bangkok".
I don't think it requires too much intelligence of a board member to work out that if you see the term "Thermae", don't know what it means and decide to google it you will quickly hit on exactly what the OP was referring to.
Anyway, just wanted to clarify.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1687697]I never used the term "Thermae Club" Pomp. I said Thermae Cafe. When I put that into my Google I get the following headings:
Thermae.
Thermae Cafe inside. . negotiating with hooker.
Nightime Bangkok: Thai girl street walkers at Thermae.
The 4th entry is a series of "Images for Thermae Cafe Bangkok".
I don't think it requires too much intelligence of a board member to work out that if you see the term "Thermae", don't know what it means and decide to google it you will quickly hit on exactly what the OP was referring to.
Anyway, just wanted to clarify.[/QUOTE]Like Pompetus I too was looking for a generic description because when it's specific and exact one it's too crystal clear for me. Generic description is likely better because of "law enforcement", i.e. "the LE". Also. Yeah.
I googled "thermae club" using google(dot)com - here's a link in case y'all don't know 'bout it, [URL]www.google.com[/URL]. You should bookmark it because it's a useful site.
Here's the winner of the top result search contest:
Club Thermae. Boston, MA.
Yelp.
[URL]www.yelp.com[/URL] Beauty & Spas Nail Salons.
What? A nail salon in Boston. Clever. "Nail" a "code word" for "nailing" a girl, yeah? Is "salon" a "code word" for "p00p chute"? This winner of results looked promising because it's a generic description likely to fool "the LE", i.e. "law enforcement".
This is the first runner up:
The Thermae, Bangkok. Stickman's Guide To Bangkok.
[URL]www.stickmanbangkok.com/.../Thermae-Bangkok.htm[/URL]
This result looked more less ambiguous because I think "stickman" is a "code word" for a man's "stick" and "bang" is "sex action, vigourously type" and "kok" and a deliberate misspelling of "cock" used to fool "the LE".
Which one should I click?
[QUOTE=Pompetus;1687236]Perhaps I had to know already what it is in advance in order to hit the nail on the head. [/QUOTE]Unlike the unknown unknowns this is the known knowns. Already knowing the knowns beforehand makes searching more less ambiguous and result in more accurate nail hitting. On the head. Especially. Less unpossible.
[QUOTE=Pompetus;1687236]My point is that collegiality on the forum is best served by being helpful. That is plan A. Of course, that may not be possible. [/QUOTE]When Plan A is not possible go with Course of Action 2. When with colleagues.
[QUOTE=Pompetus;1687236]The DSM 5 calls us a bunch of freaks.[/QUOTE]I like trance music, too. Feat. Pitbull.
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Manila couple days
Bored in the afternoons, so I would pass by Manila Bay Cafe around 2-4 pm. What a cattle pen, heifers everywhere. Going in the evening is so much better.
Passed by the casa on the corner of Cortada and UN Ave. Last time I was there the lady told me the girl was 19. Ended up being 24, and had blood from her period. Not alot but enough to gross me out. I was pissed as I had paid 1500 for st, including the room (which was 300). The lady instantly remembers me and says, ok this time no menstruation ok?! There was a really cute girl, probably 19, and was quoted "same as last time", 1500 including room. (How does she remember all the guys? I say I want discount because of last time, 1000 including the room. No dice. I bailed.
Joined Tinder. Wow, there is like 25% ladyboys there and if by chance you ask a real girl if she is a ladyboy they get super offended and you will probably lose them. Had a 18 year old virgin offer me her virginity for 100,000 php. I declined. Met a girl at Greenbelt but ended up not really liking her. I suspected she was a ladyboy, even after eating with her, even though I asked her, but there was just something not right. We departed ways. Another thing that happens alot is you find out that alot of the girls are looking for paying customers. The conversation often quickly turns to "how much you pay me if we meet?
Watch out at Harrison Plaza, 2 x 15 year olds offered their services. They looked it too. Could have been a setup, I don't know and didn't wait around to find out. 1 had a kid already.
Dropped by EDSA International Entertainment Complex. What a sharknado. As I had a full time companion back at the hotel sleeping, I wasn't looking to pickup. The prices are exorbitant anyways. I did not feel comfortable there with the high pressure tactics. Burgos is better and the clubs not as aggressive. Angeles is even better yet. After being in Angeles, I find Burgos and EDSA such letdowns.
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Another place to find SW's is just in front of the Rotonda Hotel on Taft, just south of EDSA. They can hide at the entrance as there is lots of cover. Prices quoted were 1000, but I did not partake.
Or if you walk around here, guys will pop out of nowhere offering you girls.
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Eyes and ears everywhere.
I tried to sneak my way inside philippines in the best stealth mode arriving T3 this very morning. Had a few girls lined up ofcourse but thought I'd play it by hand a few days with a loose scheduel so informed them girls my arrival dates were on the 2,3 and 4 of March.
Here is the text I recieved approx one hour ago:
"Are you in phils? My friend saw you arrived this morning".
Then it all came back to me that one time approx a year ago or so one friend of one of my regulars met me prior to immigration and escorted me in one of the special immigrationlines (I arrived at peak hour so huge lines in the immigration for foreign passports). I simply forgot about that one this morning. Without thinking and as in all automatic I denied I was in phils. Probably would been best if I just told her I arrived and take the "beating" from there. But I decided 3 days ago when I was booking this trip I wanted some freedom the first couple of days here. Maby play a bit with we chat, badoo etc. Visit old huntinggrounds alone etc etc.
Now I have to go through a hole set of new lies just to meet this lovely pussy. She works in the aviation industry herself so first of all she will most likely want to meet me at the airport, secondly she knows about the bag tags ofcourse and thridly she probably want to see my passport stamp. I can tell u she was not convinced by me holding my ground i was still in Norway.
Well well, The latter is easy as I can just claim I lost the passport. The first one can also be handled as she knows by know I don't enjoy beeing met at the airport (and followed). Sometimes I allow it sometimes I don't (if I have nothing to hide that is, hehe). The bag tags can also be removed or I can just leave the airport without my bags and claim it later (lost luggage office if there is one at Naia T3, never needed to find out so dont know). All in all this will be to much for her as i know she is not stupid. I guess the easiest way out of this is to ditch her (but that is going to be a hard one). Again she has the most lovely pussy and body and are probably amongst my top 5 of all my girly encounters mongerwice from the very beginning back in the early 2000...
Anyone had simular experiences? Enlighten me please. Yes you don't have to tell me I fucked up but lets view it from an humoristic point of view.
When i come to think of it i have one regular also know ONE person working in T1. It seems my choices for the future are either tell the truth about when i arrive and depart or use T2 and phil airlines.. Hmmmm...
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1688011]
<SNIP>. . . . It seems my choices for the future are either tell the truth about when i arrive and depart or use T2 and phil airlines.. Hmmmm...[/QUOTE]For someone who is very experienced in the Philippines by now Skog, it looks like you are letting the girls control you and weaving a complicated web of lies in order to keep them "happy".
Once you were spotted arriving you should have just told her that Yes you had to come earlier because of an important business deal.
Guys should always tell girls you meet that you have business in the Philippines because it gives you many many options to change plans etc.
No need to explain the nature of your business; no need to tell them it is "monkey business" LOL. If they know you are on holidays then they also know you have no commitments.
All that other stuff you mentioned about leaving bags at airport and hiding tags etc is silly and time-wasting and will inevitably come unstuck anyway. Just confess and wear the criticism.
The worst that can happen is that you don't see the special girl again but that's unlikely. They have VERY short memories about that sort of thing, and all will be forgiven within a day or two.
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New concept
[QUOTE=Skogis;1688011]I tried to sneak my way inside philippines in the best stealth mode arriving T3 this very morning. Had a few girls lined up ofcourse but thought I'd play it by hand a few days with a loose scheduel so informed them girls my arrival dates were on the 2,3 and 4 of March.
Here is the text I recieved approx one hour ago:
"Are you in phils? My friend saw you arrived this morning".
Then it all came back to me that one time approx a year ago or so one friend of one of my regulars met me prior to immigration and escorted me in one of the special immigrationlines (I arrived at peak hour so huge lines in the immigration for foreign passports). I simply forgot about that one this morning. Without thinking and as in all automatic I denied I was in phils. Probably would been best if I just told her I arrived and take the "beating" from there. But I decided 3 days ago when I was booking this trip I wanted some freedom the first couple of days here. Maby play a bit with we chat, badoo etc. Visit old huntinggrounds alone etc etc.
Now I have to go through a hole set of new lies just to meet this lovely pussy. She works in the aviation industry herself so first of all she will most likely want to meet me at the airport, secondly she knows about the bag tags ofcourse and thridly she probably want to see my passport stamp. I can tell u she was not convinced by me holding my ground i was still in Norway.
Well well, The latter is easy as I can just claim I lost the passport. The first one can also be handled as she knows by know I don't enjoy beeing met at the airport (and followed). Sometimes I allow it sometimes I don't (if I have nothing to hide that is, hehe). The bag tags can also be removed or I can just leave the airport without my bags and claim it later (lost luggage office if there is one at Naia T3, never needed to find out so dont know). All in all this will be to much for her as i know she is not stupid. I guess the easiest way out of this is to ditch her (but that is going to be a hard one). Again she has the most lovely pussy and body and are probably amongst my top 5 of all my girly encounters mongerwice from the very beginning back in the early 2000...
Anyone had simular experiences? Enlighten me please. Yes you don't have to tell me I fucked up but lets view it from an humoristic point of view.
When i come to think of it i have one regular also know ONE person working in T1. It seems my choices for the future are either tell the truth about when i arrive and depart or use T2 and phil airlines.. Hmmmm...[/QUOTE]Here's a new one. Why not try to just tell the truth! Why even lie when there is such a over abundance of supply here. I personally don't know why anyone would encourage any further dishonesty.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1688011]
"Are you in phils? My friend saw you arrived this morning".[/QUOTE]Just tell her you wanted to surprise her by coming earlier.
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Ass on the line.
Yes I put my ass on the line. But this has only happened to her, one time. I agree with you. I prob got somewhat softhearted over her. I know only one more less pinay in attitude and / or conduct that this one and that is the mother of my pinay baby. As the mentioned this one does not eat rice, like to read thriller books, can watch a hole movie, can articulate in english fluent better than me (I know some of you will say "no wonders as you can hardly speak but anyway" can discuss history in a global scale, hates the philippines due to corruption etc etc. Fuck I got the treatment myself and got to locked on pussy. Well well lets see how this plays out.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1688011]I tried to sneak my way inside philippines in the best stealth mode arriving T3 this very morning. Had a few girls lined up ofcourse but thought I'd play it by hand a few days with a loose scheduel so informed them girls my arrival dates were on the 2,3 and 4 of March.
Here is the text I recieved approx one hour ago:
"Are you in phils? My friend saw you arrived this morning".[/QUOTE]Hahaha. Ye old bamboo pipeline.
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1688045]just told her that Yes you had to come earlier because of an important business deal..[/QUOTE]This is the best piece of advice every monger should know. Especially the FIRST TIME you meet her. That way the expecations are managed appropriately. Thanks, Red.
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Played out nicely.
She knows I have a daughter here I care about. So I used her as much as possible claiming emergency but did not want to involve anyone. If she believed it or not I don't care but we seem still as beeing fuck buddies. As of today I have ofcourse vistited my daughter and in this humble home it was all harmony. Mother herself have given me up but still like me. So all in all an educational experience.
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[QUOTE=Free2;1687855]...if by chance you ask a real girl if she is a ladyboy they get super offended and you will probably lose them. [/QUOTE]It needn't be that way. Video chat works best to determine that. If it isn't an option then phrase your message this way: "I don't want to offend you. Since there are so many ladyboys here I always ask whether a girl is a ladyboy. I don't think you are, but I always ask." Or go for humour: "How big is your penis?" I can't recall the last time a girl was offended.
That being said I've found I rarely need to ask this. The ladyboys who don't state so in their profiles most often mention so unsolicited in the first few messages.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1688443]
That being said I've found I rarely need to ask this. The ladyboys who don't state so in their profiles most often mention so unsolicited in the first few messages.[/QUOTE]Huts is correct.
Most LBs will tell you who they really are if you start showing interest in them and wish to engage in chat.
I m sure (without first hand knowledge, only what I have been told), that the recent events that have been well publicized where the LBs came to serious harm because they concealed her / his real identity until she / he and the paramour were in the bedroom has made LBs more careful.
Most LBs would have been spooked by these events so they will let you know after a while.
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I also agree, many if not most LBs will identify themselves. But I would not count on them knowing of the Lauder case. I asked a couple, casually, what they thought of the Jeffrey / Jennifer incident, and they had no idea what I was referring to. There's no overestimating the ignorance of the general population.
I also believe that not all LBs are "natural", if you will. Some present themselves as such wanting to earn what their lady friends do.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;1688482]Huts is correct.
Most LBs will tell you who they really are if you start showing interest in them and wish to engage in chat.
I m sure (without first hand knowledge, only what I have been told), that the recent events that have been well publicized where the LBs came to serious harm because they concealed her / his real identity until she / he and the paramour were in the bedroom has made LBs more careful.
Most LBs would have been spooked by these events so they will let you know after a while.[/QUOTE]
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Just tell the truth and you would be amazed
Skog,
You'd be amazed on how they respond when you tell them. I got caught once, in my hotel room, while she was sitting on top of me, she asked me about the luggage tags. She had seen it a little earlier, and I had told her I had arrived that morning when in fact I arrived a day earlier, and had boinked another girl. Once she confronted me, I just told her I had work to do, and is it ok. And she said, no problem, while I had lips around her nipples. Hahahaha.
Anyway, I have never met anyone more forgiving and more open than Filipinas. They are the best in the world.
CT
[QUOTE=Skogis;1688167]Yes I put my ass on the line. But this has only happened to her, one time. I agree with you. I prob got somewhat softhearted over her. I know only one more less pinay in attitude and / or conduct that this one and that is the mother of my pinay baby. As the mentioned this one does not eat rice, like to read thriller books, can watch a hole movie, can articulate in english fluent better than me (I know some of you will say "no wonders as you can hardly speak but anyway" can discuss history in a global scale, hates the philippines due to corruption etc etc. Fuck I got the treatment myself and got to locked on pussy. Well well lets see how this plays out.[/QUOTE]
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Am I understanding the Manila options correctly?
Am I understanding the Manila options correctly?
Ok, so I've read back 71 pages on this freakin forum. (took 10 days, about an hour a night).
So I'm listing what I think I'm supposed to do based on the "most mentions" the last 71 forum pages of the manila thread:
1. Go to LA Cafe in Ermita / Malate.
2. Do the dating websites - (I don't have time for this.) I don't want to spend more time interviewing girls, dealing with no-shows, texting, getting a cell phone, etc, etc, (And forget to actually visit, smell, eat, party at the popular ISG forum city known as Manila)(I'm only in Manila 4 nights, with 2 nights Cebu and 2 nights Boracay in middle of week).
3. Go to the Disco / Nightclub, especially the ones that hopefully have freelancers and semipros. Is this the ranking from best to worst in terms of pros and non-pros "down to fuck" at these clubs, P4 P or not? . Exclusiv, ZZyzx, Republiq, Privem, Paladium, Time (I'm half chinese, half white from California) (And if I strike out, I can always go to LA Cafe at 4 am to salvage the night).
4. Go to Burgos Bar area. Is Bottoms best? And Kojax 2nd best?
5. Go to EDSA area Is cotton club best, then plan be, and then gpoint?
6. Go to the various malls. Maybe I grab a lunch at Harrison, Robinsons or Greenbelt and introduce myself to some hottie at lunch time.
7. Go to a KTV. Somebody give me a name of the one good KTV to check out. I like to see at least one. Should it be Air Force One "first class", or Miss Universe, or bay (formerly known as aen) , lala land, and liberty island. (Again, I'm half chinese and half white, should I claim I'm half Korean or half Japanese. So I might have a chance, sniff, or have my willy played with under the bar table, with a HOT KTV girl).
8. Go to a casa. Don't have time for this.
9. Go to CEBU (I'm going there for 2 nights!, and Boracay for 2 nights, and yes I have to frickin read the damn CEBU forum too! Another frickin 40 pages!
10. Go to Cocomanga's in Boracay (sorry off topic in this Manila Forum for this Boracay sentence).
11. I'm NOT going to Angeles City (from the 71 pages I read, Angeles City is a bunch of 5's) (I do not want to fly all the way to Manila from California, to screw fuglies for $15 . Although Blowjob alley sounds like a rite of passage, maybe in year 2025).
Conclusion- Look guys, I just want to have a good time out there in PI. I'm semi-prepared (by reading 71 frickin pages of the frickin forum). This ISG website has been awesome in helping me enjoy Rio, Lima, Zurich and other mongering destinations in the last 5 years. And any add'l advice is appreciated (if you feel like giving it). I will be giving a trip report just like I did for Rio, Lima, and Zurich, once I figure out the lay of the land in P. I.
A brief history and scorecard of Mongering destinations so far since 2010 when I first found this website, and started mongering:
THESE PLACES I GO BACK TO AGAIN IN A HEARTBEAT:
100/100 - Rio De Janeiro. All 7 Brazilian Girls know how to fuck! BBBJ every time. Beautiful beaches. Balcony Bar, Prives (massage places), Termas all highly recommended.
99/100 - Zurich. FKK Globe. FKK Sauna with where you get 30 minutes of short time girlfriend experience, bareback blowjobs always included, deep french kissing included, with supermodel 9's and 10's walking throughout the FKK GLOBE (80% of the girls had fake tits), unfortunately costs $130 to shag these hot, hot girls, and $60 to enter the FKK Sauna. I ain't that wealthy, hence a hence in a decade decadence you could say.
98/100 - Playa Del Carmen Chilly Willy's a Brazilian hottie named Susie GFE / PSE, DFK, BBBJ - $130 US.
95/100 - Cabo San Lucas Cabaret Club. A very skinny, sexy, petite Mexican gal named Angel. GFE / PSE, DFK, CBJ - $150 US.
91/100 - Out of 11 visits to Tijuana - 10 of the 11 were very memorable. Had 1 starfish at Adelita's but the 10 visits at Hong Kong Tijuana Club were all awesome 90% were CBJ, 50% of girls DFK, cum on boobs requests were never rejected - $60 US-$100 US (most of them $60 US).
90/100 - Lima, Peru - 2 different David33 girls GFE, DFK, CBJ - $90 US each session (by the way, Machu Picchu is awesome which is a short flight away.).
88/100 - Lima, Peru - "Tequila Rock" Club Girls 88 out of 100 DFK, CBJ - $150 US each session, 2 different girls from Columbia who looked good in the lingerie I provided when they came to my Lima apartment.
70/100 - Frankfurt FKK Manhattan Romanian Aida no GFE, no DFK, yes BBBJ, yes she was fine as hell, but horrible attitude, I give her 70 because she very hot! - $70 US (I wouldn't go back to Frankfurt, the girls provide little smiles or emotion).
I will be adding MANILA and CEBU to my mongering scorecard list above. Obviously I hope I have success! Again, let me know if I am understanding my Manila options correctly for a pleasurable trip to the PI!
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Mother daughter / sisters & the FUCKET list
Gentleman my activities are slowing down and becoming more precise. I am often actually tired of this whole thing.
Remaining on my fucket list are the following:
Full blown Orgy I have had 3 somes and 4 somes BUT. I am there next week for a while if any one wants to help plan!
Mother daughter pretty easy to find hot 40 year old and hot 22 year old!
Sisters.
If you can help a brother out with these last few stragglers on the fucket list maybe I can move on to more productive things.
PP.
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[QUOTE=Thunder5;1689779]
Conclusion- Look guys, I just want to have a good time out there in PI. I'm semi-prepared (by reading 71 frickin pages of the frickin forum). This ISG website has been awesome in helping me enjoy Rio, Lima, Zurich and other mongering destinations in the last 5 years. And any add'l advice is appreciated (if you feel like giving it). I will be giving a trip report just like I did for Rio, Lima, and Zurich, once I figure out the lay of the land in P. I.
![/QUOTE]You've done well and provided an excellent book review. I think you are well on your way. It's a fun place.
I would suggest you do visit Angeles though. You are so close and it will complete your experience.
Cebu, I just do Ayala mall and enjoy.
Dating sites, yes they do take some time, just start a week out, use standard text and paragraphs, don't get too deep. It's not that hard.
In Philippines you will meet some of the sweetest and most loving ladies. Enjoy the diversity.
Recently I deleted all of my previous phone numbers and contacts. These girls where just hanging onto me too long and I wil start collecting for my next visit just a week before.
Enjoy & Welcome.
BD.
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Congratulations on RTFF
[QUOTE=Thunder5;1689779]
1. Go to LA Cafe in Ermita / Malate.
2. Do the dating websites - (I don't have time for this.)
3. Go to the Disco
4. Go to Burgos Bar area. Is Bottoms best? And Kojax 2nd best?
5. Go to EDSA area Is cotton club best, then plan be, and then gpoint?
6. Go to the various malls.
7. Go to a KTV.
8. Go to a casa.
c in this Manila Forum for this Boracay sentence).
11. I'm NOT going to Angeles City (from the 71 pages I read, Angeles City is a bunch of 5's) (I do not want to fly all the way to Manila from California, to screw fuglies for $15 .
Conclusion- Look guys, I just want to have a good time out there in PI. I'm semi-prepared (by reading 71 frickin pages of the frickin forum). This ISG website has been awesome in helping me enjoy Rio, Lima, Zurich and other mongering destinations in the last 5 years. And any add'l advice is appreciated (if you feel like giving it). I will be giving a trip report just like I did for Rio, Lima, and Zurich, once I figure out the lay of the land in P. I.[/QUOTE]I read many pages in prep for my trip to Vietnam. The narrative that I was creating in my head while was RTFF far different from the reality I faced when the boots hit the beach.
But as for the PI, on any given night the best girls in Burgos, Edsa, and Angeles will be about the same (actually I think that the total quality from top to bottom is virtually indistinguishable across the three but I am probably inviting a heated dispute.). As far as ease of adjustment and learning curve issues, I would definitely go for Angeles. It may also be cheaper. You may have received a stilted view from RTFF about AC. I am not a beer hound but AC is probably better for those who are. I would definitely give AC a second look. You are really well experienced. You will do fine in AC.
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Sisters
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1690017]Gentleman my activities are slowing down and becoming more precise. I am often actually tired of this whole thing.
Remaining on my fucket list are the following:
Full blown Orgy I have had 3 somes and 4 somes BUT. I am there next week for a while if any one wants to help plan!
Mother daughter pretty easy to find hot 40 year old and hot 22 year old!
Sisters.
If you can help a brother out with these last few stragglers on the fucket list maybe I can move on to more productive things.
PP.[/QUOTE]Go to "A touch of class" bar. They have sisters there. Not they prettiest but not the ugliest either. Ask for Shane and Nicole.
The bar is not on fields. It's going towards Lewis Grand hotel. Next to America hotel.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1688167] can articulate in english fluent better than me (I know some of you will say "no wonders as you can hardly speak but anyway" can discuss history in a global scale, hates the philippines due to corruption etc etc. Fuck I got the treatment myself and got to locked on pussy. Well well lets see how this plays out.[/QUOTE]Haha, you crack me up Skogis. I haven't been back to the phils for awhile, so I have only been lurking in this forum, but your various posts about getting busted really have me smiling with my morning coffee today. Hope it worked out for you buddy.
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[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1690017]
Remaining on my fucket list are the following:
(Snip)
Mother daughter pretty easy to find hot 40 year old and hot 22 year old![/QUOTE]This guy goes into a small bar off Maxilom in Cebu City, El Gecko I think it is called. Gets talking to one of the MILFs there, in her early 40's, and pretty hot. They were making good chat and she suddenly asks "would you be interested in joining me for a Sportsman's double? "
He asks "What's a Sportsman's Double? Is it some drink at the bar here? "
"No, no" she said. It's a mother-daughter combination, you will really enjoy it".
It was not only his interest that perked up at that invitation. Before long they left hand in hand heading to her apartment around the corner.
She gets to her door, opens up, and calls up the passage way "Hey Mum, are you awake? ".
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[QUOTE=BigKahuna;1690077]Go to "A touch of class" bar. They have sisters there. Not they prettiest but not the ugliest either. Ask for Shane and Nicole.
The bar is not on fields. It's going towards Lewis Grand hotel. Next to America hotel.[/QUOTE]Better posted in the AC thread?
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[QUOTE=Ceegee;1690102]Haha, you crack me up Skogis. I haven't been back to the phils for awhile, so I have only been lurking in this forum, but your various posts about getting busted really have me smiling with my morning coffee today. Hope it worked out for you buddy.[/QUOTE]Having a busy scheduel are hard sometimes. I write these reports as some may take a learning from them or if not atleast they can have a: "good on him, I would never do such mistakes myself" and maby have a laugh on my behalf. I don't mind. It is all about having fun and learn as we play along. But small white ones are required at times but not major ones. And i highly agree that pinays are a forgiving kind.
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I spent some time in LA CAFE. I went at 7 pm. Like someone mentioned already MOST (I say most becuase I didn't stay more than 90 min) looked like philo maids. Ie old and / fat. I didn't even bother to talk to them. Later I came during the day because I had to killd some time. AGAIN most looked like philp maids. There was one that looked ok prob a 6. 5/7. I acted cool not really that keen, but soon her and a firend came up to me and we started chatting STRAIGHT away a waitress came up to me and asked if I wnated to buy then a drink WTF, this is new experience as I have never had to do this before in LA Cafe, and esp in any of the freelancer bars, further I remembered reading that the drinks is priced as a LD ie higher than the standard drinks, and given that drinks is higher in LA cafe than elsewhere I said maybe later. Stratight away the attitiude with the girl turned frosty. She said why don't I choose I girl I said how about I choose you?. She said you choose me but you cnat buy me a drinK. I'm used to chatting with a gril seeing the chemistry ie whether I want to take her before buying a drink. Anway with that attitiude I said its ok I won't be choosing you and I proceeded to ignore her. So take home message is that LAC girls are bad attitide, they pretty unsavory. And the LAC management thinks its customers are chumps.
Near LAC are many casa (brothels) they are disgused as bistro / music launges. One which has been posted on the web is called UN casa (google and research you will find the adress don't bother asking me becuase if I can find iot so should u). I went some decent girls ie better thab LAC at 1500 supposedly LT, but as I was just researching. The mami said to come at 5 pm if want good selection. The are many around thsi area. Tho on adriatico tehre is a better one prices 1400. I went with a fellow who followed me there in a way so I'm sure you can get it down to 1000 or 1200 peso.
Casa.
I tried two other casa they are refered to as casino casa and edison casa. Again google it. For the adress. Better looking girls for 3000 Isupposedly if you go with guide its 4000, I asked a local and they said 2500. Since I came from AC earlier I didn't think its good value but given the options in manila the sure.
Local KTV Miss universe / universe.
Here there is a 300 peso entrace fee, seems to have some decent looking girls barfine is 7000. Near there is edsa complex. Drinks are 175 I think so much more than in AC. Girls are similar. Supposedly barfine is 1500 plus 1500-2000 tip. Again sicne I just came from AC I didn't try.
I did however try PRIMERO in bonificio. Its a g club with supposed ex FMH models etc etc. I went and sure the girls are attractive, but I wouldn't say it was worth the price.
Price is 2000 for 90 mins all you can drink, LD drink is 300 k tho its not necessary to buy them one, every 15 mins the girls rotate, if you request a girl its extra 500 peso. So afetr 90 mins of chit chat 2 ld I was out 3500. What a LT in AC would have cost. The girls are pretty but not exactly WOW.
I also tried starfleet massage can find some decent looking girls cost 850 basic room then tip 1000 for FJ, they also have 1200 and 2000 class rooms tip girl 1500.
Near there is flight168. Similar arrangement but ist 1000/1500/2500 tip girls 1500-2000 for FJ.
Also airforce 1 KTV, min 500 peso for 2 beer, there is a onsite FJ option cost is as follows min 2 hours tabling (tabling is 800/900/1000 cat girls). Room hire 3000, and tip for girl is 4000 = 9000, or LT bar fine 12-14 k depending on girls. And yes the girls are pretty but not worth that price.
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Casa in Manila
I would suggest getting a reliable contact. There are lots of scams and maybe sometimes LE involved traps to extort you.
I would not just saunter into a casa looking for girls. You maybe lucky to get away unharmed but these are mainly strictly for locals and fresh ones are grabbed by Manila elite. Long time ago I did go to couple of casas on the advice of a street seller and saw some girls. The girls are not bad looking but seemed [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] (Phi girls do look younger than they are). I would not trust their cedulas. Like my GF from Mindanao said one can get any kind of cedulas by paying some extra money. No need to show birth certificate and many do not have one anyway if they are born at home in the provinces. Only the hospitals keep records. Surprisingly still many give birth at home because hospitals are expensive.
Yes, the girls are cheaper but hygiene is suspect. These girls are the ones from the poorest family who cannot even afford a fare to go to AC or get hired by KTV etc. Even the KTV girls need to make a deposit before getting a job. Even cannot pay money for a I. The if they are of legal age.
Pay more and get EDSA girls or go to AC and be safe.
Googling locations will not help.
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Where have you been
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1690225]I spent some time in LA CAFE. I went at 7 pm. Like someone mentioned already MOST (I say most becuase I didn't stay more than 90 min) looked like philo maids. Ie old and / fat. I didn't even bother to talk to them. Later I came during the day because I had to killd some time. AGAIN most looked like philp maids. There was one that looked ok prob a 6. 5/7. I acted cool not really that keen, but soon her and a firend came up to me and we started chatting STRAIGHT away a waitress came up to me and asked if I wnated to buy then a drink WTF, this is new experience as I have never had to do this before in LA Cafe, and esp in any of the freelancer bars, further I remembered reading that the drinks is priced as a LD ie higher than the standard drinks, and given that drinks is higher in LA cafe than elsewhere I said maybe later. Stratight away the attitiude with the girl turned frosty. She said why don't I choose I girl I said how about I choose you?. She said you choose me but you cnat buy me a drinK. I'm used to chatting with a gril seeing the chemistry ie whether I want to take her before buying a drink. Anway with that attitiude I said its ok I won't be choosing you and I proceeded to ignore her. So take home message is that LAC girls are bad attitide, they pretty unsavory. And the LAC management thinks its customers are chumps.
Near LAC are many casa (brothels) they are disgused as bistro / music launges. One which has been posted on the web is called UN casa (google and research you will find the adress don't bother asking me becuase if I can find iot so should u). I went some decent girls ie better thab LAC at 1500 supposedly LT, but as I was just researching. The mami said to come at 5 pm if want good selection. The are many around thsi area. Tho on adriatico tehre is a better one prices 1400. I went with a fellow who followed me there in a way so I'm sure you can get it down to 1000 or 1200 peso.
Casa.
I tried two other casa they are refered to as casino casa and edison casa. Again google it. For the adress. Better looking girls for 3000 Isupposedly if you go with guide its 4000, I asked a local and they said 2500. Since I came from AC earlier I didn't think its good value but given the options in manila the sure.
Local KTV Miss universe / universe.
Here there is a 300 peso entrace fee, seems to have some decent looking girls barfine is 7000. Near there is edsa complex. Drinks are 175 I think so much more than in AC. Girls are similar. Supposedly barfine is 1500 plus 1500-2000 tip. Again sicne I just came from AC I didn't try.
I did however try PRIMERO in bonificio. Its a g club with supposed ex FMH models etc etc. I went and sure the girls are attractive, but I wouldn't say it was worth the price.
Price is 2000 for 90 mins all you can drink, LD drink is 300 k tho its not necessary to buy them one, every 15 mins the girls rotate, if you request a girl its extra 500 peso. So afetr 90 mins of chit chat 2 ld I was out 3500. What a LT in AC would have cost. The girls are pretty but not exactly WOW.
I also tried starfleet massage can find some decent looking girls cost 850 basic room then tip 1000 for FJ, they also have 1200 and 2000 class rooms tip girl 1500.
Near there is flight168. Similar arrangement but ist 1000/1500/2500 tip girls 1500-2000 for FJ.
Also airforce 1 KTV, min 500 peso for 2 beer, there is a onsite FJ option cost is as follows min 2 hours tabling (tabling is 800/900/1000 cat girls). Room hire 3000, and tip for girl is 4000 = 9000, or LT bar fine 12-14 k depending on girls. And yes the girls are pretty but not worth that price.[/QUOTE]To M Chicken.
Where have you been LA café change to Manila bay café for a few year and Miss Universe been closed down for 4 yr.
Fast eddie 48.
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[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1690386]To M Chicken.
Where have you been LA caf change to Manila bay caf for a few year and Miss Universe been closed down for 4 yr.
Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Manila Bay Cafe changed its name again back to LA Cafe something like 7-8 months ago. I was there one month ago.
RG.
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Sisters
Sisters are very possible in Philippines. I have had 3 sets of sisters in the past 18 months. One set was 3 sisters, 19,22 and 24 years old. The other 2 sets were in their early 20's.
This is not as quite a feat like it would be in my home country. We average 1. 8 children to a family. In Phils the average is 6+. Also because of poverty and helping the family the girls are more open to this revenue stream.
Getting 2 sisters is like being dealt 4 of a kind in a poker game! In Phils it is the same as being dealt 4 of a kind but you are using 3 decks of cards! Your odds are 3 times better not counting other factors which would greatly increase your odds 5 fold.
All three sets would not do a threesome. They either went into the other room or laid in bed playing dead while I did the other sister. There is nothing like having one on each side of you laying in bed. One set came to my room at different times.
I think the trick is to be nice to one and then pretty soon she will ask you if you want her sister too? Most of the time it is because of financial reasons not because she was to share her great cocksman.
So play nice and the cards are stacked in your favor.
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Jan / Feb trip report
Just over a month ago I was in Manila for work. I already posted in the AC forum about a girl I met there, so here is the rest of the story in Manila. I didn't have much time what with visitors of the family and work kind, and just getting a lot of work done away from my normal life.
I stayed in a condo near Mall of Asia. I have been asked about this elsewhere and I don't want to go in to specifics about which one. Suffice to say that if you go to AirBnB or Roomorama you'll find at least a dozen if not more within a 5 minute walk of MOA. And more apartment complexes are springing up all around MOA.
My first encounter was to Flight 168 where I'd been previously and had a very satisfying pair of young ladies. This time I picked just the one. I was a little early so the rooms were only P900 with the girl's tip being P1500. Actually I'd gone downstairs first by mistake where the girls were more expensive but didn't see much difference personally between the expensive ones and the not so expensive ones. Anyway, once in the room, found she had bazooka boobs: the sort that protrude more than have diameter. Quite unusual for a Filipina I think, and certainly more volume to those breasts than most, but not huge. A perfunctory massage then on to a CBJ which is not really my thing but hey I'm paying for it so go for it. 2-3 positions later and a reasonable session if not especially memorable.
I next went to LA Cafe, somewhere I'd not been before. I was early, just before 8 pm, and wasn't really in the mood for anything beyond talking to expats. Slight problem: the only expats I could see were Chinese / Korean, and not a European / American / Aussie / Kiwi in sight. Plenty of girls but to be honest I found the waitresses prettier than the freelancers. Somebody inevitably came over and talked to me, despite trying to shake her off that I was off to the nearby mall in a few minutes. She persisted though and seemed surprised when sure enough I finished my beer and headed out the door. I did my bit of shopping at the mall, came back sometime after 9, and not much had changed really so I left. BTW some people talk of the dangerous streets around there. I wasn't carrying anything of value so felt reasonably confident walking, some people tried to sell Viagra but they were easy to shake off, and that was about it.
Thinking I hadn't given the place much of a chance, I returned to LA Cafe a few days later and after 9 this time. I'm not much of a late nighter so it was now or never really. A few white people this time but most people seemed to be keeping themselves to themselves. Eventually a pair came in the door, not particularly great looking but they offered a duo for P1500 each which, in hindsight, was a little high. They wanted the three of us to leave one by one so it wouldn't look suspicious. They didn't want to be harassed for drinks by the waitresses. Bit of a red flag. We took a taxi back to my condo, texting all the way, and inevitably they had to sign in. I'm not that bothered by the walk of shame but it's a bit of a PITA standing in the reception area with doormen / security you've got to know staring. I decided I probably wouldn't do that again and just find a short time hotel instead.
In the room they raided the fridge and cupboards for snacks and drinks, and marveled over the washing machine in the bathroom. One wasn't so keen on showering together but the other one was okay with it. One had rather strange breasts, barely anything to them, and also CS scar and very floppy belly. But not fat floppy. I finally realised the next day that I knew that feeling before. She'd very recently given birth, possibly within a few weeks. I know this from the wife who had two kids and the tummy does tighten up relatively quickly. Yet a healed scar so maybe a vaginal delivery (still tight enough though). The only other logical explanation was losing a lot of fat but the rest of the body didn't exhibit those sorts of tell-tale signs. The other girl also had a CS scar but a bit more of a reasonable body.
Ok, so two girls on the bed, one either side, can't complain! BBBJ from each, though not simultaneously. DATY to both of them. Not bad, one could've washed a little better but not minging. Covered sex with one and then new condom for the other. Both on the bed at the same time but not into each other. And constantly yakking away. Jeez they would not shut up. Eventually even I kind of lost interest and had them finish me off with a HJ. And this part was actually the best part. I'm not entirely sure what they did but both of them using alternate hands I think. You'd think I would know but I was quite happy blissfully unaware, with a finger up each of their vags. A good finish but was a bit pissed off at the experience generally. Had to sign them out downstairs as well.
After these mediocre experiences I was seriously questioning myself. I don't have a great deal of money, I can get free BB sex at home whenever I want with a willing and horny partner, and here I am having mediocre sessions with the risk of her finding out. Was it really worth it? Turns out I was to have a final fling in AC anyway, which as I say I already posted about.
Side note: asked for Viagra or generic at Watsons in the back of MOA (2nd floor) and they didn't bat an eyelid, and certainly didn't ask for a prescription. I think they were P160 per tablet, 100 MG, generic. In SM Hypermarket and elsewhere they sell a herbal supplement called Robust, regular and extreme. The extreme was, well, extreme as I had raging hard-ONS for a good couple of days after taking one! However, the extreme is much more expensive than the regular, which still gave a boost but not quite so much. Sorry, I can't remember the exact price for each.
Side side note: asked for a sleeping tablet at Watsons and was told they don't sell them. Same at another branch but was told that Mercury Drug do sell them. Went to nearest Mercury Drug and got told I needed a prescription. But was then offered diphenhydramine which. Tada. Is the main ingredient in OTC sleeping remedies. I knew that but didn't think to ask for diphen in Watsons, doh. Wasn't cheap though so maybe take some with you.
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[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1690386]To M Chicken.
Where have you been LA caf change to Manila bay caf for a few year and Miss Universe been closed down for 4 yr.
Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]I remember a few Phil experts accused you of never been here commenting based on others reports. I'm starting to understand why. BTW way I wrote miss universe / universal. Meaning that one was the old name the other the new.
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[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1690386]To M Chicken.
Where have you been LA caf change to Manila bay caf for a few year and Miss Universe been closed down for 4 yr.
Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Where have YOU been Eddie?
MBC changed back to LAC 8 months ago, and the change was discussed here at length.
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Ouch. Where have I been? I missed this. MBC is the better name anyway.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;1690569]Where have YOU been Eddie?
MBC changed back to LAC 8 months ago, and the change was discussed here at length.[/QUOTE]
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MBC to LAC
It happened around July or August. I posted on being at the "grand re-opening. ".
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The name "Manila Bay Cafe" would be a lot more authentic and distinctive.
Why they had to change back to LA Cafe is beyond logic.
[QUOTE=XMan;1691103]Ouch. Where have I been? I missed this. MBC is the better name anyway.[/QUOTE]
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Eddie
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1690567]I remember a few Phil experts accused you of never been here commenting based on others reports. I'm starting to understand why. BTW way I wrote miss universe / universal. Meaning that one was the old name the other the new.[/QUOTE]Eddie is earning quite a reputation for posting reports without actually having been at locations. He posts without actually submitting Field Reports or pictures.
In the Indonesia thread a growing number of posters don't believe him anymore. Nobody has ever met him in Indonesia, despite several challenges.
Regards,
Ko.
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Old fart
[QUOTE=KoperenKarel;1691307]Eddie is earning quite a reputation for posting reports without actually having been at locations. He posts without actually submitting Field Reports or pictures.
In the Indonesia thread a growing number of posters don't believe him anymore. Nobody has ever met him in Indonesia, despite several challenges.
Regards,
Ko.[/QUOTE]To Ko.
You are a 70 yr old fart with Azheimer that is why you don't remember anything anymore even you have met me you forgot already.
Fast eddie 48.
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No you didn't
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1690567]I remember a few Phil experts accused you of never been here commenting based on others reports. I'm starting to understand why. BTW way I wrote miss universe / universal. Meaning that one was the old name the other the new.[/QUOTE]To M Chicken.
Nope you wrote Miss Universe / Universe which closed down in 2011 because of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord903][CodeWord903][/url] girl working as host, I didn't know they reopen under Miss universal disco Theater & KTV on the same location in FB Harrison on pasay city but 7000 p barfine is way too much.
Fast eddie 48.
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Terminal 3 taxis
Landed in Terminal 3 at 6:40 pm today on Cebu Pacific flight. Luggage was a breeze. Got outside and the taxi line was very long, maybe one or two taxis pulling up every minute. Look like the wait would be over an hour. The private car or coupon taxis were hawking a two hundred peso taxi ride for 1,000. At times coming down to 900. As I stood there for 10 minutes I noticed the Resort World shuttle bus pulling up. The light bulb went off about getting on the shuttle to Resort World and getting a taxi from there. I went on the shuttle and 5 minutes later I am there and into a taxi as it was dropping a passenger. The fare was 150 and I tipped him 50 because he didn't tell me any stories about a sick child or anything else. He just drove.
A big thanks to ISG and member's report and tip about RW shuttle. BTW, the only question asked by the driver was Marriotts or Resort World. At first I thought he was asking about rewards program. I said Marriotts, Marriotts Hotel is the first stop. I didn't get off because I didn't see a taxis there. Driver reminded me we were at Marriotts, I then said I would get off at RW. I tipped the driver 50 pesos because he helped me with a couple big bulky bags on and off the bus.
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City of dreams area.
Due to Ascott fully booked I spend my remaining days in Manila at the Hyatt. So far the area is a deserted area but I guess in a few years it will develope with a few higrises and maby a few shops. Like most other places having a mini mart /7-11/ pharmacy etc I could not find this in the city of dreams building or in close near by. Maby others have different intel and I simply not did a good enough research. Mention mini marts etc is nice and convenient to just buy in some small snacks / sodas etc as even I think it is to much to pay 200 piso for a can of coke at the Hyatts minibar. So that is a downside staying in this area.
Girls reporting they have trouble finding drivers beeing familiar enough with the area (and I believe also Huts reported so a while back, even experienced this myself while staying here first time with regular gf and baby)but now i have learned to use Mall of Asia (MOA) as a landmark and from there it is easy enough to guide the drivers with the girls assistance to Hyatt. The hotel will most gladly assist you in sending a Fortuner and a driver to pick up girls if you like. Depending on where in Manila it will cost around 2-4000 piso. I did this one time and it was easy and swift but ofcourse more costly than ordinary taxi. 2500 for picking up a New World Manila Bay employee in Malate.
From City of Dreams there are shuttles to MOA from I believe 7 am in the morning (departing:00 and:30) every hour until 10 pm. I was close to jump on one but to many people so normal taxi it was (70 piso metered to MOA and 200 piso back not metered). By the way i did not like MOA as a mall that much in its layout but many beautiful girls. And the worst iceskating i ever experienced(but i know it is not in their blood)..
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[QUOTE=Dg8787;1692056]Landed in Terminal 3 at 6:40 pm today on Cebu Pacific flight. Luggage was a breeze. Got outside and the taxi line was very long, maybe one or two taxis pulling up every minute. Look like the wait would be over an hour. The private car or coupon taxis were hawking a two hundred peso taxi ride for 1,000. At times coming down to 900. As I stood there for 10 minutes I noticed the Resort World shuttle bus pulling up. The light bulb went off about getting on the shuttle to Resort World and getting a taxi from there. I went on the shuttle and 5 minutes later I am there and into a taxi as it was dropping a passenger. The fare was 150 and I tipped him 50 because he didn't tell me any stories about a sick child or anything else. He just drove.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report Dg. A quick question about where near the terminal this shuttle stops. I recall in the past as I stood facing the yellow cabs at their arrival spot, I looked over my shoulder and saw a shuttle bus pull up directly behind me, and in the drive or roadway right adjacent to the terminal building. Is this where you saw the shuttle? If not, where did it pull up, and how is it labeled?
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1692105]And the worst iceskating i ever experienced(but i know it is not in their blood)..[/QUOTE]You go ice skating in the Phils? LOL!
You are truly Norwegian my friend. But the Dutch are better ice skaters of course :-)
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[QUOTE=Mogwai;1692332]You go ice skating in the Phils? LOL!
You are truly Norwegian my friend. But the Dutch are better ice skaters of course :-)[/QUOTE]Hehe, I am probably crazy but not that crazy so I don't go iceskating in asia. But I was watching some iceskaters skating around the rink inside Mall Of Asia and I must say, without bragging and as an old icehockey player, I would have been the best skater at the rink if I did try and I am not even talking about the average public skater out there, I am talking about the team of instructors (only based on what I saw this very day ofcourse). I agree though that the Dutch are hard to beat (Sven Kramer). In icehockey no problem but again we have teams like Canada, Sweden, USA, Russia much better than us any given day.
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Resort World shuttle stop
[QUOTE=SkipKost;1692117]Thanks for the report Dg. A quick question about where near the terminal this shuttle stops. I recall in the past as I stood facing the yellow cabs at their arrival spot, I looked over my shoulder and saw a shuttle bus pull up directly behind me, and in the drive or roadway right adjacent to the terminal building. Is this where you saw the shuttle? If not, where did it pull up, and how is it labeled?[/QUOTE]Please excuse me but I don't know the difference of yellow taxi stop or the other one. As you come out of T3 baggage you cross over to the taxi line island. The line faces to the right as you exit T3. I was in line about 300 feet or 100 meters from the start of the line. As I stood in line I saw the RW bus to my right, which would be curb side as you exit T3. I didn't look for a sign but there was a small desk there. There were about 10 Chinese people in line at the desk signing in. I thought I might be SOL if the bus filled up or I had to sign in. I looked at the driver and asked if I could board and he gracious grab my luggage and loaded it on board. Hope this helps you.
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[QUOTE=Dg8787;1692371]Please excuse me but I don't know the difference of yellow taxi stop or the other one. As you come out of T3 baggage you cross over to the taxi line island. The line faces to the right as you exit T3. I was in line about 300 feet or 100 meters from the start of the line. As I stood in line I saw the RW bus to my right, which would be curb side as you exit T3. I didn't look for a sign but there was a small desk there. There were about 10 Chinese people in line at the desk signing in. I thought I might be SOL if the bus filled up or I had to sign in. I looked at the driver and asked if I could board and he gracious grab my luggage and loaded it on board. Hope this helps you.[/QUOTE]By the way, bright red bus with Resort World in huge lettering on the side of the bus.
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Shuttle bust to resorts
When you come out of T3, the first sidewalk is where the taxi's are. To the far right, is the yellow taxi. You have to cross the street, and get to the second sidewalk. And that is where the bus stops. If I remember correctly, it will say resorts world on the side of the bus. If you ask any of the "taxi" hustler's where is the resorts world shuttle bus is, they will show you. Most taxi drivers don't want you, because it is too short of a drive for them. It is one of those mid sized buses.
I am surprised they now stop at Marriott. That is cool, for my next stay there.
CT
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1692339]Hehe, I am probably crazy but not that crazy so I don't go iceskating in asia. But I was watching some iceskaters skating around the rink inside Mall Of Asia and I must say, without bragging and as an old icehockey player, I would have been the best skater at the rink if I did try and I am not even talking about the average public skater out there, I am talking about the team of instructors (only based on what I saw this very day ofcourse). I agree though that the Dutch are hard to beat (Sven Kramer). In icehockey no problem but again we have teams like Canada, Sweden, USA, Russia much better than us any given day.[/QUOTE]You do sometimes see pros in that rink. I've spent many a lunch in the food court overlooking the rink and have been pleasantly surprised at the entertainment. Rounds of applause if they're good.
Anybody remember Cool Runnings?!
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Does anyone have experience using uber in Manila?
I haven't been to the Phils in a few years, but I see Uber is available there. Anyone have experience using this service?
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[QUOTE=Lobo220;1692578]I haven't been to the Phils in a few years, but I see Uber is available there. Anyone have experience using this service?[/QUOTE]I have used it several times with success. It seems to be most effective from the Manila airport. However, uber drivers are no always available, so have a backup plan.
RG.
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[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1691213]The name "Manila Bay Cafe" would be a lot more authentic and distinctive.
Why they had to change back to LA Cafe is beyond logic.[/QUOTE]Because it was at its best and most famous as La Cafe. Search engines for example would bring La up, more often, than say MBC for example. Lots of guys were still calling it La Cafe, even though it had changed its name years ago to MBC. La Cafe was most popular so they use that popular and well known business name / brand, once again. Logical.
I think they have fucked the place up with the girls drink controversy. Making it more like a regular bar, than a freelance joint.
Back to the basics, 1. La Cafe and 2. No tricks re girls drink, might mean a resurgence of the place, especially re quality of girls.
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[QUOTE=Lobo220;1692578]I haven't been to the Phils in a few years, but I see Uber is available there. Anyone have experience using this service?[/QUOTE]I know RG has replied but you have 18 FRs all questions some similar the first being "can you translate this phrase".
RTFF is something you should know as your FRs (f we can call them that) go back to 2009. On the Angles board Westie has been given some grief for his comments to politely say RTFF. Read them as very informative. And many of us talk about "give and take", some on other boards call you a "manager" (UAE board for example).
If you had TFF there has been an extensive discussion on using Uber and the pros / cons of Uber particularly in Manila. Last 4 weeks so find the search function and the board and start to write meaningful FRs (again refer to Westie comments and the Angeles board).
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Directions and Uber
[QUOTE=Lobo220;1692578]I haven't been to the Phils in a few years, but I see Uber is available there. Anyone have experience using this service?[/QUOTE]Worked great for me in Manila. Although the driver may not have a damn clue about directions, imagine taxi drivers are bad enough over against the average uber citizen. Even though they use GPS that makes no difference. When the GPS says 'turn right in 400 meters, the driver will immediately turn right. Such is the brainpower of alot of filipinos.
General rule of thumb for directions in the phils, if they say go this way, do a 180 and go in the opposite direction. Better chance of finding what you are looking for.
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Uber: The Nuts and Bolts
Would someone please give a "from the ground floor up" explanation of Uber. Other than it is the German word for over, I have no idea how it works. I live a very insulated life and I mean that. I am on a remote corner of the world and we get latest trends, if at all, years after they have become generally passe. Please, if you reply that googol is my friend or to RTFF then GFY. I cannot think of a better way to be helpful than to summarize the nuts and bolts, the ins and outs, of Uber. I thank any ISG brother who would do that for us.
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[QUOTE=Pompetus;1693296]Would someone please give a "from the ground floor up" explanation of Uber. Other than it is the German word for over, I have no idea how it works. I live a very insulated life and I mean that. I am on a remote corner of the world and we get latest trends, if at all, years after they have become generally passe. Please, if you reply that googol is my friend or to RTFF then GFY. I cannot think of a better way to be helpful than to summarize the nuts and bolts, the ins and outs, of Uber. I thank any ISG brother who would do that for us.[/QUOTE]Golly, life on Tristan the Cunha Island sounds very much sucky sucky. How did you find ISG? Lucky guess?
Uber is a quasi taxi service. Like a taxi the amount you pay is based on a flag fare (a minimum fare) and on time and distance. A quirk is that fares are also variable, set by demand. This is known as on-demand pricing (a.k.a surge pricing) and therefore Uber is an on-demand car service. On demand? Waz meanz? Higher demand means higher fares. And vice versa. By raising rates during peak times, Uber gives its drivers an incentive to move to areas with high demand, helping to ensure its customers greater access to its cars. And both Uber and its drivers make more money, too. Using the app (you know what this is, yeah?) installed on your mobile you arrange for a driver to pick you up. This is unlike hailing a taxi in the street. It's also unlike calling a dispatcher. The taxi arrives and you hop in. Once you reach your destination you pay your fare and off you go.
Using google and the query "what is uber taxi" I received twenty million six-hundred thousand results. The problem is now evident to me. If my crystal ball is working and I've anticipated your next question correctly I think you'll find this search result useful, [URL]http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Uber[/URL].
Believe it or not, google is truly your friend. Now I'll go eff myself.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1693338]Golly, life on Tristan the Cunha Island sounds very much sucky sucky. How did you find ISG? Lucky guess?
Uber is a quasi taxi service. Like a taxi the amount you pay is based on a flag fare (a minimum fare) and on time and distance. A quirk is that fares are also variable, set by demand. This is known as on-demand pricing (a.k.a surge pricing) and therefore Uber is an on-demand car service. On demand? Waz meanz? Higher demand means higher fares. And vice versa. By raising rates during peak times, Uber gives its drivers an incentive to move to areas with high demand, helping to ensure its customers greater access to its cars. And both Uber and its drivers make more money, too. Using the app (you know what this is, yeah?) installed on your mobile you arrange for a driver to pick you up. This is unlike hailing a taxi in the street. It's also unlike calling a dispatcher. The taxi arrives and you hop in. Once you reach your destination you pay your fare and off you go.
Using google and the query "what is uber taxi" I received twenty million six-hundred thousand results. The problem is now evident to me. If my crystal ball is working and I've anticipated your next question correctly I think you'll find this search result useful, [URL]http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Uber[/URL].
Believe it or not, google is truly your friend. Now I'll go eff myself.[/QUOTE]Except that, at least here in the Philippines, you have to register a credit card with the service and your card is billed immediately after the conclusion of the ride. You do not pay the driver directly, riders receive a receipt via email within a couple of minutes of the ride's end. The receipt comes from the Netherlands. I typically use Uber in Manila twice a day and like the service very much. It's convenient, reasonably inexpensive and the cars are clean and comfortable.
GE.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1693456]... you have to register a credit card with the service and your card is billed immediately after the conclusion of the ride.
[/QUOTE]You expect him to get a credit card??? He lives an isolated life in a remote part of the world where things don't exist. :P
FWIW, this is why "google is your friend" is an excellent answer to these generic "what is..." questions. Over 20 million results, most of which explain it better than I did. Needn't clutter the board.
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I'm sure he's a nice guy, but. . .
[QUOTE=Lobo220;1692578]I haven't been to the Phils in a few years, but I see Uber is available there. Anyone have experience using this service?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1693675]FWIW, this is why "google is your friend" is an excellent answer to these generic "what is..." questions.
Over 20 million results, most of which explain it better than I did. Needn't clutter the board.[/QUOTE]Thanks Huts. Making my case that we don't get into long discussions with "what is" questions with newbs. Lobo, who posted the original question a few days ago, can apparently afford to travel to phils, yet cannot afford to buy a $20 membership here and keep the "what is" question off the main board and in PM. Google and Wiki are your best friends. Each of these is from one of this troll's unique "take / don't give" reports:
[I]Does anyone have any experience using airbnb there?
I haven't been to the Phils in a few years, but I see Uber is available there. Anyone have experience using this service?
Has anyone stayed at the Waterfront Hotel and Casino recently. Have the rooms been refurbished there recently? Any tips for other hotels within walking distance of the Waterfront Hotel?
Has anyone recently stayed at the Cebu Midtown Hotel and Casino? How was it?
Does anyone recommend this hotel or any other hotels nearby that you would recomend?
My filipina gf wants to do something unusual and erotic when I am in the phils next. Does anyone know of any special clubs or places for couples to go?
Can anyone recommend a hotel close to the Hong Kong Macau Ferry Terminal, Sheung Wan?
I am a lucky bastard! Any bar in particular you would recommend? [/I](from 2008).
[I]Can anyone recommend a driver with decent car or van? [/I](2007).
[I]What is the best way to book a room at the New World Renassaince to get the best rate[/I] (2006).
[I]I am planning on visiting Cebu for the first time. I am looking for a "private" upscale type resort close to the airport. Any recommendations?[/I]
18 reports in a decade, and how many sold FR's does he have? Go ahead, feed the troll.
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Who else is in town. I will be here for a couple weeks, staying near the café if anyone else is in town.
Chris
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Manila Milfs
My style is a little different than many here, I enjoy a good fuck or two with someone who needs it as much as me, for that reason I work the dating sites, Except DIA I can not get a new account there for love nor money.
So I make some friends and I meet them, I don't lie or oversell I am just pleasant and I am not hideous or aggressive. Having Blue eyes is a plus here. I don't spend a fortune on them I am just NICE!
I had a nice first date Wed evening, make sure they have at least 1 drink or 2, this allows the Catholic mindset to release the pussy for pleasure, because they are "drunk" you only have to do this once. Once you fuck them well, you kind of own them!
So nice date, 2 margaritas back to my room. No questions asked or BS discussed. 2 hours of really good fucking then later sleep comes.
The best part about milfs is typically they have not had sex for along time, at one point she asks: "can I suck him" loved that. I of course complied and she insisted I cum in her mouth, I try to please.
Milfs can also take bigger cocks and they dig it. As a bigger cocked person we have an obligation to treat them well and to get them addicted to the larger peni! This leads to more MILF action.
The downside is their pussies take a beating due to lack of use and it is sore later. Oh well usually 3 - 4 days out of commission allowing for more Milfs to be added to the rotation, kind of like Big Leaque Baseball.
This girl won't even take Taxi Money and has a decent job.
The downside of Milfs is they typically want a relationship, and I can't. I don't mislead them and I am polite and upfront. The other downside is yes they have some stretch marks and are not perfect but this woman has the most amazing skin I have ever consumed! And she actually loves fucking! She is tall for a filipina at 5 5 and I am enjoying that and she is STRONG and I am enjoying that!
Most are happy being treated and fucked well. Some are not!
Be nice, be polite and fuck well and all is wonderful here in the Phils on that front, Manila is still the shithole of Earth!
PP.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1693675]You expect him to get a credit card??? He lives an isolated life in a remote part of the world where things don't exist. :P
[/QUOTE]I bow to your impeccable logic Huts. I didn't know there were any places left, short of ISIS-controlled territory, where Google wasn't available. Just as an aside, I took an Uber car to my office in Ortigas from my hotel in Makati this morning. As usual, the service was efficient, inexpensive and timely. For those bros who actually live in the real world, I strongly recommend Uber as an alternative to taxis.
GE.
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What do you consider MILF? My preferred age for FC, DIA, etc. If I am going to spend time is for girls in the mid 30's. (I am much older). I have been thinking about expanding to some attractive women in the mid to late 40's, partly for the same reason you mentioned below. It's fun to spend a little time with someone untouched for a while. I will still hit up the 20 somethings for play for pay.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1693712]My style is a little different than many here, I enjoy a good fuck or two with someone who needs it as much as me, for that reason I work the dating sites, Except DIA I can not get a new account there for love nor money.
So I make some friends and I meet them, I don't lie or oversell I am just pleasant and I am not hideous or aggressive. Having Blue eyes is a plus here. I don't spend a fortune on them I am just NICE!
I had a nice first date Wed evening, make sure they have at least 1 drink or 2, this allows the Catholic mindset to release the pussy for pleasure, because they are "drunk" you only have to do this once. Once you fuck them well, you kind of own them!
So nice date, 2 margaritas back to my room. No questions asked or BS discussed. 2 hours of really good fucking then later sleep comes.[/QUOTE]
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A cheap cab.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1693732]I bow to your impeccable logic Huts. I didn't know there were any places left, short of ISIS-controlled territory, where Google wasn't available. Just as an aside, I took an Uber car to my office in Ortigas from my hotel in Makati this morning. As usual, the service was efficient, inexpensive and timely. For those bros who actually live in the real world, I strongly recommend Uber as an alternative to taxis.
GE.[/QUOTE]Are Cabs not cheap enough here? I just rented a fellow for 3+ hours it cost me 1000 pesos! Thats pretty cheap seeing fuel costs the same as back home!
PP.
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[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1693802]Are Cabs not cheap enough here? I just rented a fellow for 3+ hours it cost me 1000 pesos! Thats pretty cheap seeing fuel costs the same as back home!
PP.[/QUOTE]Cabs often smell, are in lousy shape and aren't very comfortable. Uber cars are reasonably new, immaculate and comfortable. Plus, you've got the driver's name, picture and plate number, making it easier to reclaim anything you might have left behind. So it's not a question only of money but of value, comfort and peace of mind. I very rarely take cabs here.
GE.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1693809]Cabs often smell, are in lousy shape and aren't very comfortable. Uber cars are reasonably new, immaculate and comfortable. Plus, you've got the driver's name, picture and plate number, making it easier to reclaim anything you might have left behind. So it's not a question only of money but of value, comfort and peace of mind. I very rarely take cabs here.
GE.[/QUOTE]Because they are as smelly and derelict as a taxi yet cost almost nothing you know I still love me the jeep. Good value ;)
To minimize my inconvenience I stay off the roads during rush hour, so for me hailing a cab usually is no problem unless it's raining, then Uber is great. Here is the money shot for Uber. Arranging for a car to pick up the girl to bring to your place. I was reading Skogis's FR of a few days ago where he paid the hotel some obscene sum to pick up a girl and it struck me: "Why not Uber for that?"
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[QUOTE=George03;1693749]What do you consider MILF? My preferred age for FC, DIA, etc. If I am going to spend time is for girls in the mid 30's. (I am much older). I have been thinking about expanding to some attractive women in the mid to late 40's, partly for the same reason you mentioned below. It's fun to spend a little time with someone untouched for a while. I will still hit up the 20 somethings for play for pay.[/QUOTE]The best MILF age is 18. The best GILF age is 30. A granny is her 20s is just too bizarre. I can't wrap me noggin 'round it.
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[QUOTE=George03;1693749]What do you consider MILF? My preferred age for FC, DIA, etc. If I am going to spend time is for girls in the mid 30's. (I am much older). I have been thinking about expanding to some attractive women in the mid to late 40's, partly for the same reason you mentioned below. It's fun to spend a little time with someone untouched for a while. I will still hit up the 20 somethings for play for pay.[/QUOTE]Georgie, how old are you? The Filipinas in their 30's are fine and very grateful but there are so many 20-somethings that dig older guys, too. I'm pushing 60 this year and have a regular GF who will be 20 next month and several others who I see in their early and mid 20's. I see guys in their 70's and maybe 80's with young sweet things, too, and that will probably be me in a few years. Just keep in shape so you can keep up with the young ones. Have fun!
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DCups,
I know all that. I am in my 50's, and had no problems on my trips to Phil with 20's up to about 34. I have done short time as well as taking a couple on beach vacations. If I take them long term (a week or so) I want to at least be able to have something resembling an intelligent conversation, which I was able to do with the mid thirty sweet.
It seems to me that the 40+ market may be untapped. It seems hard to get info on this age group without getting the usual responses as: why would you want a 40 year in Phil, none of them are in shape, etc.
[QUOTE=DCups;1693944]Georgie, how old are you? The Filipinas in their 30's are fine and very grateful but there are so many 20-somethings that dig older guys, too. I'm pushing 60 this year and have a regular GF who will be 20 next month and several others who I see in their early and mid 20's. I see guys in their 70's and maybe 80's with young sweet things, too, and that will probably be me in a few years. Just keep in shape so you can keep up with the young ones. Have fun![/QUOTE]
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Car Service
If anybody needs a car service, I used a really nice professional guy P2,000 for 8 hours. Best P2,000 I ever paid. Well maybe not the best. PM me for info.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1693802]Are Cabs not cheap enough here? I just rented a fellow for 3+ hours it cost me 1000 pesos! Thats pretty cheap seeing fuel costs the same as back home!
PP.[/QUOTE]
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Nice Find Chris
Did you get her out of LA Café? Did you go to Subic yet? Give us a report from The Blue Rock Floating Bar. Have fun Buddy.
[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1693709]Who else is in town. I will be here for a couple weeks, staying near the caf if anyone else is in town.
Chris[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=George03;1693980] have something resembling an intelligent conversation, [/QUOTE]Understood. I'm not sure the age equates to intelligence in this society or any for that matter. Regards.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1693936]Because they are as smelly and derelict as a taxi yet cost almost nothing you know I still love me the jeep. Good value[/QUOTE]I guess I'm of an age when my own comfort, or at least minimizing discomfort is paramount for me. Thus, I've never, in 11 years here, taken a jeepney, never ridden the MRT and now avoid taxis as much as possible. I no longer find exoticism where other younger, more adventuresome types might. I'm not being critical of those who choose other paths, and am just explaining that I'm too old, frail and self-centered to enjoy those venues.
GE.
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When do you arrive and what hotel are you staying during your trip?
I arrive late on the 23rd and leave on the 29th. I am staying at the Fairmont in Makati.
If you have any game and are fashionably dressed I would suggest a night at 71 Grammercy (nightclub) or a night at Bonafacio area.
My borgas favorites are plan be and roxy. But you should really go bar to bar to get the whole experience. Go in look around and leave if you don't find love at first sight. Don't buy a drink for someone you are not going to take home.
If you want Freelancers go to Havana at Greenbelt mall. Arrive after 9 pm. I don't know what the going rates are since it has been over 6 months since my last trip.
Other options are Malate (Thursday, Friday, Saturday night) La Cafe or any numbers of KTV places.
L2's.
[QUOTE=Thunder5;1689779]Am I understanding the Manila options correctly?
Ok, so I've read back 71 pages on this freakin forum. (took 10 days, about an hour a night).
I will be adding MANILA and CEBU to my mongering scorecard list above. Obviously I hope I have success! Again, let me know if I am understanding my Manila options correctly for a pleasurable trip to the PI![/QUOTE]
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40's girls
[QUOTE=George03;1693980]DCups,
I know all that. I am in my 50's, and had no problems on my trips to Phil with 20's up to about 34. I have done short time as well as taking a couple on beach vacations. If I take them long term (a week or so) I want to at least be able to have something resembling an intelligent conversation, which I was able to do with the mid thirty sweet.
It seems to me that the 40+ market may be untapped. It seems hard to get info on this age group without getting the usual responses as: why would you want a 40 year in Phil, none of them are in shape, etc.[/QUOTE]All of the ages of girls in the Phils are "untapped" in that it is easy to find a woman of any age for sex on the first date.
If you go to DIA, there are lots of women in their 5th decade. Some have aged very well, and their profiles are indistinguishable from the 20-somethings suggesting that they have the same behaviors. Here and there over the years, there are reports on the ISG from guys who have slept with the 40 somethings and they regularly report that the women are enthusiastic lovers.
I do not think you need any real help here. Go to one or more of the dating sites and set up a few dates. I am willing to bet that 99/100 40+ year old women fuck you on the first date.
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[QUOTE=George03;1693980]DCups,
I know all that. I am in my 50's, and had no problems on my trips to Phil with 20's up to about 34. I have done short time as well as taking a couple on beach vacations. If I take them long term (a week or so) I want to at least be able to have something resembling an intelligent conversation, which I was able to do with the mid thirty sweet.
It seems to me that the 40+ market may be untapped. It seems hard to get info on this age group without getting the usual responses as: why would you want a 40 year in Phil, none of them are in shape, etc.[/QUOTE]Are older women better in sex than younger ones?
IMHO it all is individual. Same is true conversation wise. Apart from sex and small talk about family etc generally there is no intelligent conversation with phi women. It is not the same as western women dating. Our interested topics are of no interest to them. Generally I talk to them about food, what they like to do, what movie they like to see etc. Otherwise they are content in watching TV in between sex. Some show me who they have been chatting with etc. Believe me there are lots of weirdos out there.
Generally I am very happy with good sex even if there is not much talk.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;1695901]Generally I am very happy with good sex even if there is not much talk.[/QUOTE]Those are the happiest times of my life.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;1695901]Are older women better in sex than younger ones?
IMHO it all is individual. Same is true conversation wise. Apart from sex and small talk about family etc generally there is no intelligent conversation with phi women. It is not the same as western women dating. Our interested topics are of no interest to them. Generally I talk to them about food, what they like to do, what movie they like to see etc. Otherwise they are content in watching TV in between sex. Some show me who they have been chatting with etc. Believe me there are lots of weirdos out there.
Generally I am very happy with good sex even if there is not much talk.[/QUOTE]The only reason I can see for choosing a middle aged women is the sex may be better. However, I agree that conversation will be limited no matter what the age. I suppose if I were looking for good conversation AND good sex I would look for some female professors at the University of the Philippines in Manila and try to break into their social circles. However, if my intention was to apply that level of work I could try that nearly anywhere.
I don't go to the Philippines to have "pretend girlfriends" and watch mediocre TV, I go there for a sex vacation in a warm climate with pretty decent accommodation and food. Full stop. As far as conversation, they seem to have trouble talking with their mouth full.
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Touch down in Manila
On touch down in Manila I had 2 girls meet me at the airport. One was a dark skinned 28 year end with very limited experience but great fun on chat sites. She brought a friend (30) with large pouting lips who as happens was hot as hell. I only had a few hours to spare before flying on so time was short. Jumped on the resorts world bus for free shuttle to Resorts World and took them to lunch. Good fun plenty of sex talk but they had to go back to work so let them go after 2 hours. Arranged a full meeting for my way back! I will post update later.
After they had gone I sat and had a coffee in Resort world mall. Its not a place I have been before but there were several girls available there. I suspect its more geared towards Japanese and Korean. Made contact and got phone number of skinny girl with a very tight bum. Must try her at some stage. Asking 3 k for short time which is a more than I would pay normally. But she looked good and I was getting steamed up by now!
Went back to airport and had to fly from Terminal 4 to Mindanao. By this time feeling very tired but soon perked up when a mid forties woman with great figure sat down beside me and started talking. Her story was she has business in the province and needs to go to Manila once a month for meetings! Exchanged numbers and promised to have dinner together.
So first few hours very productive despite no sex but the flight was nearing and the little provincial princess was waiting me!
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Ohhhhhhhhhhh $hit
I've been going to PH for the past 8 years or so religiously. Although I enjoy good conversation. One phrase sticks in my mind during the Main Event and that is.
"Ohhhhhh $hit _ (underline is my name) somehow those 3 words are said with passion with every Filipina. And. That keeps me coming back. Call me crazy.
[QUOTE=Mahaba;1696068]The only reason I can see for choosing a middle aged women is the sex may be better. However, I agree that conversation will be limited no matter what the age. I suppose if I were looking for good conversation AND good sex I would look for some female professors at the University of the Philippines in Manila and try to break into their social circles. However, if my intention was to apply that level of work I could try that nearly anywhere.
I don't go to the Philippines to have "pretend girlfriends" and watch mediocre TV, I go there for a sex vacation in a warm climate with pretty decent accommodation and food. Full stop. As far as conversation, they seem to have trouble talking with their mouth full.[/QUOTE]
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Boracay
I heard that commentary from girls several times while I was banging them in Boracay. They were all from Kalibo but I found it humorous. It appeared to honestly convey their emotional and physical reaction at the time. Interesting that it's said so widely.
Ohhhhhhhhhhh $hit".
[QUOTE=Mongerer69;1696086]I've been going to PH for the past 8 years or so religiously. Although I enjoy good conversation. One phrase sticks in my mind during the Main Event and that is.
"Ohhhhhh $hit _ (underline is my name) somehow those 3 words are said with passion with every Filipina. And. That keeps me coming back. Call me crazy.[/QUOTE]
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10 photos
Been here for nearly a week and have been having a great time. No ministration with these girls have not been told no once have gone into LA Café G point Café Havana EDSA and been able to approach what I think is the hottest girl in the place and within five to ten minutes I'm walking or catching a cab back to my hotel room with her, its just like picking up chicas in Latin America. Last nights EDSA girl does not seem to want to leave says its her day off today and for some reason she seems to think she is going to spend the day and night with me again.
Chris
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Tondo - "No"
We finished business at my Malate hotel about midnight. My girl is ready to go back to her "house". I can't help it if she lives in Tondo. Readers who know Manila know about the Tondo area. We go out to get a cab. Four taxis in a row refuse to drive to Tondo. I could not / would not believe it unless I heard it with my own ears. Did not phase the girl at all. "We get a yellow cab". Seems like the white colored cabs will not go, but the yellow colored taxis will drive to Tondo. OK. Off she went. This is her.
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[QUOTE=Forest;1695872]All of the ages of girls in the Phils are "untapped" in that it is easy to find a woman of any age for sex on the first date.
If you go to DIA, there are lots of women in their 5th decade. Some have aged very well, and their profiles are indistinguishable from the 20-somethings suggesting that they have the same behaviors.[/QUOTE]I can certainly vouch for the +40 Filipinas. ALthough when in the Phils, the max I think I have ever dated was 30.
In the OFW category I always hit up the foreign maids in Dubai, Bahrain, Hong Kong, Shanghai & Singapore. A few issues working around their work, employers and all having OFf day on same day. Certainly worth exploring.
I also struck some fertile ground in Zurich with the divorced and disgruntled middle aged Filipina.
Back home in Australia have only been successful with one +40 Filipina.
Can confirm that all of these women were absolutely wonderful in bed. I would also suggest that their boobs were bigger as they usually have a little more weight by middle age.
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[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1696471]I can certainly vouch for the +40 Filipinas. ALthough when in the Phils, the max I think I have ever dated was 30.
In the OFW category I always hit up the foreign maids in Dubai, Bahrain, Hong Kong, Shanghai & Singapore. A few issues working around their work, employers and all having OFf day on same day. Certainly worth exploring.
I also struck some fertile ground in Zurich with the divorced and disgruntled middle aged Filipina.
Back home in Australia have only been successful with one +40 Filipina.
Can confirm that all of these women were absolutely wonderful in bed. I would also suggest that their boobs were bigger as they usually have a little more weight by middle age.[/QUOTE]A 40+ woman in Phi is totally different than a 40+ Phi woman in other countries. Mainly because women living outside take better care of themselves. I have never enjoyed over 25 women in Phi, so I am not an authority. But by looking at older women in malls and bars I do not want to fuck them. While there are plenty of young, pretty, juicy ones available both working and non-working I do not feel I want to try a older woman. More importantly it is our blessing that Phi girls in general are not worried about age factor unlike women in USA. So when I take a trip anywhere I want to enjoy young girls. If I want a older woman I will stay here.
This reminds me of a time me and my friends were hanging in a bar in Shenzhen. Only unescorted girls there were mainly older women. One perticularly cute with big boobs got friendly with me. I was not interested at that time because I had two very pretty girlfriends. My friend enjoyed her and said she is very good in bed. I am sure there are many older women in Phi single, divorced, abandoned etc who are real horny.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;1696658]A 40+ woman in Phi is totally different than a 40+ Phi woman in other countries. Mainly because women living outside take better care of themselves. I have never enjoyed over 25 women in Phi, so I am not an authority. But by looking at older women in malls and bars I do not want to fuck them. While there are plenty of young, pretty, juicy ones available both working and non-working I do not feel I want to try a older woman. More importantly it is our blessing that Phi girls in general are not worried about age factor unlike women in USA. So when I take a trip anywhere I want to enjoy young girls. If I want a older woman I will stay here.
This reminds me of a time me and my friends were hanging in a bar in Shenzhen. Only unescorted girls there were mainly older women. One perticularly cute with big boobs got friendly with me. I was not interested at that time because I had two very pretty girlfriends. My friend enjoyed her and said she is very good in bed. I am sure there are many older women in Phi single, divorced, abandoned etc who are real horny.[/QUOTE]I agree. I went to LA Cafe on a weeknight and left within an hour. These 30+ women working there all have a stomach (due to pregnancy and jollibees). I was staring all their protruding tummies and couldn't stand it. The proverbial "lipstick on a pig" stood out.
Sure I'll bet they are good in bed, but so was your mom. Do you want to fuck that?
Me I rather get quality at an affordable price leveraging on my looks. And believe me there are young ones who enjoy it just as much as older ones.
The ONLY reason I may try older ones is of its free. But they are so jaded by years of getting used by foreign men that they would demand more than a young fresh off the boat naive woman. I mean, take a look at the ridiculous offers at Havana cafe from these pinay MILFs. I do better in DIA and nightclubs.
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Women over 40
Reading with interest the varying opinions on the older Filipina. Have had a few over 40's and all were enjoyable in bed. It is true also that a significant proportion do not stir any interest especially when there are much other options available.
I would say that the age bracket 33 to 38 is a goldmine. In that age bracket I have had some excellent sex. And there is less teaching required!
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[QUOTE=Sammon;1696658]A 40+ woman in Phi is totally different than a 40+ Phi woman in other countries. Mainly because women living outside take better care of themselves. [/QUOTE]Actually most Filipinas above 30 do take care of themselves, I. E. make up, extremely skimpy and sexy dress (some looking like badly packed sandbags) and not bothering about the body shape. (some know their body shape and don't overly expose flesh, while most feel 'sexy' and want to show it.
In fact, it is very comical to see Filipina maids, in Singapore, on Sundays, dressed in super sexy and hot and all kinds of dresses, with a lot of their ass hanging out, while a few fit the dress, most don't.
And go to the beach, it is even mesmerizing to see such women in bikinis, daringly exposing their bits. Not thinking that so much excess flesh is not sexy anymore.
I once dragged a Filipina friend to a girlie bar here, and the bar we walked into had too many super sized women, and I told my companion that they are fat. She stopped me in my tracks and said "they are healthy, get that right." and went on to explain that most pinays coming from poor families, can't stop eating when they see food, and good food means not to be wasted.
A friend running a bar here with Filipino dancers on proper permit has a rule. If the girl gains more than 3 KG every month, her incentives will be cut by 30% - sounds cruel, but till he enforced it, the girls gained like 5++ kilo every month, as soon as they arrived.
And when they end their 6 months contract and head back to complete the mandatory 1 year cooling off period and come back after that, you can see, from 40 kg to 50++ they went in the 6 months previously, they return after a year later with less than 40 sometimes.
It's all about food, or lack of it.
P.S. I was in a bar last week, in Singapore, and one of the dancers ending her contract has 'grown' so much, when she was dancing, her tights were slipping off, and so was her boobs.
She came over and said the dress is not fitting- I knew better than tell her than the dress is right, her rest of the body is bloated!
P.S. And the truth is, regardless of shape or size, Filipino men are real romeos after a few San Miguel, and especially if they know the girl is foreign returned, will turn on their charm level to 100, and bed the girls, as they know appreciating 'plus' sized rich women has its own rewards.
And Filipino sailors will screw anything as long as it speaks Tagalog!
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[QUOTE=EconoTech;1697143]I once dragged a Filipina friend to a girlie bar here, and the bar we walked into had too many super sized women, and I told my companion that they are fat. She stopped me in my tracks and said "they are healthy, get that right." and went on to explain that most pinays coming from poor families, can't stop eating when they see food, and good food means not to be wasted.
A friend running a bar here with Filipino dancers on proper permit has a rule. If the girl gains more than 3 KG every month, her incentives will be cut by 30% - sounds cruel, but till he enforced it, the girls gained like 5++ kilo every month, as soon as they arrived.
And when they end their 6 months contract and head back to complete the mandatory 1 year cooling off period and come back after that, you can see, from 40 kg to 50++ they went in the 6 months previously, they return after a year late
It's all about food, or lack of it.[/QUOTE]In a well known book titled **The Spirit Level** two British authors have pointed out the strong correlation between income inequality and obesity, using countries as their units of analysis. Of course, correlation is not causation. But ET is getting at an underlying explanation. People who grow up comparatively well off have always been exposed to various food choices, and in paying tribute to fashion, they never develop an attraction to fast, high-caloric foods. People from poorer backgrounds, such as those plucked from rural provinces and placed in urban settings with lots of available food and a little money in their pockets, flock to food where portions are plentiful and prices are relatively cheap. The same is true in poor neighborhoods in developed countries like the US and UK.
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[QUOTE=EconoTech;1697143]And Filipino sailors will screw anything as long as it speaks Tagalog![/QUOTE]Better not learn to speak Tagalog then.
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Where is SM in MOA? Or, I never thought I would use a SOGO hotel
My GF was working her bakery job. I was staying in Makati, and thought I would go to Mall of Asia (MOA) for a while. I had an old number of a girl, it was still in service, and she agreed to meet me at MOA. She lives in Laguna, had worked at EDSA. I asked her to meet me in SM. If you have been to MOA, you know how big the damn SM store is and cannot miss it, right? This girl could not find SM. Of course, I thought she was kidding, but no, she was truly "stuck" at National Book Store and I had to go find her. It seems that directions are not the strong suit of any Filipina I have met.
But, the story had a happy ending. As you know, traffic is always jammed, so no sense going all the way back to my hotel in Makati, so I made use of a SOGO for the first time. As I recall, it was the one across from EDSA. Paid 600+ pesos for 4 hrs. Spartan room, but mirrors on wall and ceiling. Staff there never bothered to really look at me or her. Took the cash, gave me the key. No register, no names. Air con was a bit cold, there were no controls for temp or fan, but what the heck. TV worked. Never thought I would ever use a SOGO hotel, but in this case, thanks to this forum, I was able to save the day.
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[QUOTE=Mogwai;1697573]Better not learn to speak Tagalog then.[/QUOTE]Why do you think I avoid all temptations to learn Taglish? LOL.
P.S. I meant to say the sailors wills crew anything female as long as it speaks Taglish!
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[QUOTE=MrHawaii;1698018]My GF was working her bakery job. I was staying in Makati, and thought I would go to Mall of Asia (MOA) for a while. I had an old number of a girl, it was still in service, and she agreed to meet me at MOA. She lives in Laguna, had worked at EDSA. I asked her to meet me in SM. If you have been to MOA, you know how big the damn SM store is and cannot miss it, right? This girl could not find SM. Of course, I thought she was kidding, but no, she was truly "stuck" at National Book Store and I had to go find her. It seems that directions are not the strong suit of any Filipina I have met.
But, the story had a happy ending. As you know, traffic is always jammed, so no sense going all the way back to my hotel in Makati, so I made use of a SOGO for the first time. As I recall, it was the one across from EDSA. Paid 600+ pesos for 4 hrs. Spartan room, but mirrors on wall and ceiling. Staff there never bothered to really look at me or her. Took the cash, gave me the key. No register, no names. Air con was a bit cold, there were no controls for temp or fan, but what the heck. TV worked. Never thought I would ever use a SOGO hotel, but in this case, thanks to this forum, I was able to save the day.[/QUOTE]In my opinion, you should have taken the MRT to Makati. The line moves very fast during rush hour from EDSA since that's the first stop. It would have been faster, and you would have saved 550 pesos. (25 pesos ride ride MRT). And MRT is fast.
Also your hotel is by far more comfortable than a sogo.
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[QUOTE=MrHawaii;1698018][...] she agreed to meet me at MOA [...] so I made use of a SOGO for the first time.[/QUOTE]Near MOA (and also the EDSA International Entertainment Complex) are many good hot-sheet options, many of them not as tatty as the nearby SOGO. At the corner of EDSA and Roxas Blvd is the Heritage Hotel. Behind this hotel on Cuneta Ave near Harrison St are a dozen or two "garage" motels. Here's a map of the area, [URL]https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cuneta+Ave,+Pasay,+Metro+Manila,+Philippines/at14.536422,120.9964107,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x3397c95a86423531:0x9d8c50537f7bc434[/url]. There is also a Victoria Court in the area. Some of these places have theme rooms like Victoria Court's 50 Shades of Grey and Game of Thrones rooms, and the tariff runs dearer. You'll see a lot of ads posted in the area for the motels.
They are called garage motels because some the rooms have a private garage in which you park your car. Taxi rooms are those without the attached garage and they run cheaper. Rates vary based on time of day, day of week, length of stay, and room amenities.
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[QUOTE=VIPhawaii;1698369]In my opinion, you should have taken the MRT to Makati. The line moves very fast during rush hour from EDSA since that's the first stop. It would have been faster, and you would have saved 550 pesos. (25 pesos ride ride MRT). And MRT is fast.
[/QUOTE]The logistics don't work VIP.
First of all, the taxi from MOA to the EDSA Taft station would have taken a good 15 - 20 minutes.
As a frequent user of the MRT, I NEVER try to use it between 4. 30 pm and 8 pm, so he would have needed to line up in a long jostling queue just to get his tickets (I use stored value tickets but he wouldn't have had one). Then he would need to get on the train, with people pushing and shoving, even at the start of the line.
I think he definitely took the best option, and that was to stop off at SOGO, kill a couple of hours with his girl, and then take his time to return to the hotel without all the hassles of getting her home too.
Huts is right. There are other options around the area near Sogo with many ST hotels along the road parallel to EDSA but they are very mixed, and all are more expensive than Sogo, especially if you have a Sogo discount card that makes it even cheaper. Victoria Court hot sheets are much more expensive than all other options.
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Thanks to all for the SOGO alternatives. I had never used one, and now I have. Done. Next time, if there is one, will try the Victoria Court. But you know, when you are hornier than a three-peckered alligator, you don't always think with the head containing the cerebrum. Let me see if there is a picture somewhere. Ah, here it is.
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Most Filipinas take care of themselves?
[QUOTE=EconoTech;1697143]Actually most Filipinas above 30 do take care of themselves, I. E. make up, extremely skimpy and sexy dress (some looking like badly packed sandbags) and not bothering about the body shape. (some know their body shape and don't overly expose flesh, while most feel 'sexy' and want to show it.
[/QUOTE]You obviously have not been here or have ever met a filipina over 30.
I have met 1 woman above the age of 30 that actually exercises.
Their diet is TERRIBLE and if they are NOT fat they think they are Healthy.
I have chatted to thousands, met hundreds and 1 exercises.
Now they are inclined to buying lots of shit to smear on their outside to create the look of health but they:
A have no clue what healthy living is and worse they have no interest.
Be Avoid exercise and sweating like its a sin, they will not even consider to walk 3 blocks.
See 50+% of their diet is WHITE RICE.
There is nothing healthy about a Filipina other than their looks, their looks make our cocks hard and then we get healthy.
Look at the average 45 year old filipina and they look 60 because they never take care of themselves and when they start IF they do, it can be to late.
PP.
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[QUOTE=George03;1693749]What do you consider MILF? My preferred age for FC, DIA, etc. If I am going to spend time is for girls in the mid 30's. (I am much older). I have been thinking about expanding to some attractive women in the mid to late 40's, partly for the same reason you mentioned below. It's fun to spend a little time with someone untouched for a while. I will still hit up the 20 somethings for play for pay.[/QUOTE]A MILF is a Mother, aged 25 - whatever, yes 65% have stretch marks and some have hideos scars from see section but not to many.
Here Milfs are completely ignored by local men, they are only interested in making new children with almost children, the men here are truly despicable and I THANK THEM every day. I find it stunning a pinay will actually fuck a pinoy, the women know they are horrible bastards.
It is normal and I have had probably 50 Milfs that they have not had sex for YEARS, many YEARS and if you seek a tight pussy, BOY are you in for a treat. IT is normal they are VERY sore the next day or 3 which allows for the MILF 4 day rotation plan. As it takes 4 days for the pussy to heal.
The last 2 Milfs begged to suck my dick and begged me to cum in her mouth. Now I am with a 33 year old non MILF who frankly is not much of a lay but she is learning and god damn is she beautiful. No cum swallowing no anal and she won't even spread her fing legs to let me see her.
I will probably fuck another tonight despite our "love".
Milfs simply appreciate your attention, they MISS sex and they know how to keep a man and they are like lost dogs, no one pets them and when they get petted they respond just like a found dog. Some Milfs will give you 0 drama and simply want your mouth and cock and finally, Milfs have kids which means they have to leave you now and again which of course allows room for new Milfs and that boys and girls is why I love Milfs!
PP.
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[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1699149]You obviously have not been here or have ever met a filipina over 30.
I have met 1 woman above the age of 30 that actually exercises.
Their diet is TERRIBLE and if they are NOT fat they think they are Healthy.
I have chatted to thousands, met hundreds and 1 exercises.
See 50+% of their diet is WHITE RICE.
There is nothing healthy about a Filipina other than their looks, their looks make our cocks hard and then we get healthy.
Look at the average 45 year old filipina and they look 60 because they never take care of themselves and when they start IF they do, it can be to late.
PP.[/QUOTE]There is a fundamental truth in what PP has said and the average pinay over about 35 starts to go downhill quite fast. Take a look on the dating sites at those who are generally 40 and over, and they have lost that "glow " factor that attracts us to their younger sisters. Their skin becomes less firm, their hair is all over the place, bellies are expanding, the dreaded bingo wings arms have that flab, and they just lose all their attractivieness. They arent alone, Indian woman start off slim and coltish and descend into a world of fatbellied ugliness. Fortunately theres a goodly supply of young fit firm skinned pinays available. And then, every once in a while, you meet a 40 years old pinay who still has everything going for her.
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[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1699149]See 50+% of their diet is WHITE RICE.
PP.[/QUOTE]Sorry if I'm cherry picking the quote about white rice, but Korean women and Japanese women both have a diet tilted towards white rice. Not sure if you can generalize since K-women and J-women can be quite skinny.
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[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1699169]Milfs simply appreciate your attention, they MISS sex and they know how to keep a man and they are like lost dogs, no one pets them and when they get petted they respond just like a found dog. Some Milfs will give you 0 drama and simply want your mouth and cock and finally, Milfs have kids which means they have to leave you now and again which of course allows room for new Milfs and that boys and girls is why I love Milfs!
PP.[/QUOTE]Agree and while this is not my flavour very often the other benefit PP does not mention is MILFs have daughter who can be lovely and very yummy at 18 and ready for picking sometimes with mom watching and joining in at the same time. That is always an enjoyable part of the hunt for me when you have them in a threesome.
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[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1699149]{S N I P}
See 50+% of their diet is WHITE RICE.
{S N I P}[/QUOTE]I am quite sure that the problem is not about pecentages, it is about quantities.
I totally agree with Skip Kost's post, which seems to have ended up hidden amongst the hot-sheet posts.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1007-Manila&p=1697453&viewfull=1#post1697453[/URL]
Ikksman.
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Shocking But True
Normally, getting a driver's license renewed here is an arduous process, typically requiring about a day: at least that's been my experience when renewing my license in Davao. Because I now work in Ortigas, and because my license is due to expire next week, I decided to try to renew this time at an LTO branch office in Galleria shopping center. The entire process took about 15 minutes; I was so stunned by the efficiency, promptness and lack of hassle that I think was speechless for a good five minutes after leaving the office with new license in hand.
Just when you think you know this place, something happens to demonstrate that perhaps you don't know it as well as you might have thought. Who knew?
GE.
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You give a whole new meaning to the concept of "family man".
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1699536]Agree and while this is not my flavour very often the other benefit PP does not mention is MILFs have daughter who can be lovely and very yummy at 18 and ready for picking sometimes with mom watching and joining in at the same time. That is always an enjoyable part of the hunt for me when you have them in a threesome.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1699607]Normally, getting a driver's license renewed here is an arduous process, typically requiring about a day: at least that's been my experience when renewing my license in Davao. Because I now work in Ortigas, and because my license is due to expire next week, I decided to try to renew this time at an LTO branch office in Galleria shopping center. The entire process took about 15 minutes; I was so stunned by the efficiency, promptness and lack of hassle that I think was speechless for a good five minutes after leaving the office with new license in hand. [/QUOTE]The LTO is one area that has definitely been revamped and streamlined in terms of customer service.
I used the same office as GE just 6 weeks ago and had the same shocked reaction at the efficiency and courtesy.
Another place that has been revamped is the Bureau of Immigration office in Intramuros. It used to be a hell-hole, but now it is very user-friendly.
I forgot to do my Annual Report (required for all long-stay foreigners and it must be completed between January 1 and March 1).
I was a few days late, so I needed to go to a special office on the 2nd floor. The whole report process took me somewhere between 5 and 10 minutes including paying the fee of 310 php plus a small fine for being late at a cashier's window on the G Floor. Lots of signs, and a special dedicated cashier to take my payment.
I walked out the front door in a state of shock (much like GE) some 10 minutes after entering.
There are many things changing here, and those of us who have previously endured the mindless and inefficient processes in past years are suitably impressed.
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1699668]The LTO is one area that has definitely been revamped and streamlined in terms of customer service.
I used the same office as GE just 6 weeks ago and had the same shocked reaction at the efficiency and courtesy.
There are many things changing here, and those of us who have previously endured the mindless and inefficient processes in past years are suitably impressed.[/QUOTE]But without raining on the parade, (sorry) and not being there I'm not sure, but are they actually giving out licences and plates. I had heard that all the licences are still stuck awaiting customs clearance and that drivers are just given their blue receipt that acts as their licence. I could be wrong but its what I read in another forum.
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1699668]Another place that has been revamped is the Bureau of Immigration office in Intramuros. It used to be a hell-hole, but now it is very user-friendly.
[/QUOTE]I'll add that BOI in Makati is very easy to use, and has been this way for 2.5 years. The only "hassles" are not enough seating when busy and not enough counter space to fill out the form. When it's busy the paperwork in front of the cashier can pile up so you may have to wait.
The way to streamline everything -
1) Download the form from the website, such as the tourist visa extension form, [URL]http://immigration.gov.ph/images/FORMS/VariousApplicationsForms/CGAF%20for%20Tourist%20Visa%20Extension.pdf[/URL], and complete at home. (No printer at home/hotel? Go to internet cafe, or during your BOI visit pick up blank forms for your next visit.)
2) Make sure you have the correct photos.
3) Make sure you have the photocopy of your passport's bio page and the most recent visa (or extension).
4) Wear the proper attire.
5) Have correct change to pay your fees, see [URL]http://www.immigration.gov.ph/index.php/visa-requirements/non-immigrant-visa/temporary-visitor-visa/extension-of-authorized-stay-beyond-59-days[/URL] for fees.
6) Before going to BOI office check the website for info any new changes.
The process can take from 10-30 minutes and your passport will be ready to pick up in approx. 4 hours. Pickup following business day if you go late in the afternoon. BOI Makati is a short 15-min walk from Burgos if you're looking for a place to kill time. Powerplant Mall/Rockwell isn't far from Burgos.
I'll add that if you needn't pick up your passport at end of the business day you'll miss the evening traffic mayhem of Burgos and Paseo de Roxas intersection.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1699680]But without raining on the parade, (sorry) and not being there I'm not sure, but are they actually giving out licences and plates. I had heard that all the licences are still stuck awaiting customs clearance and that drivers are just given their blue receipt that acts as their licence. I could be wrong but its what I read in another forum.[/QUOTE]That was indeed the case for quite a while, but if my experience is generalizable to the rest of the country, it's no longer true. I got the usual plastic card.
GE.
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Business as usual at LTO Davao
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1699742]That was indeed the case for quite a while, but if my experience is generalizable to the rest of the country, it's no longer true. I got the usual plastic card.
GE.[/QUOTE]I don't get to Manila. I did all the leg work and was approved for my license in September 2014 at the LTO in Davao City, I finally got the plastic card in March 2015.
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Glowing reports for LTO and Immigration
Given these glowing reports of bureaucratic efficiencies, do we need to draw a link to our recent dismal discussions of interlocking institutional and cultural dysfunctions in the "Filipinas--Opinions and Advice" thread?
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The Pinay Directional (non) Sense
[QUOTE=MrHawaii;1698018]It seems that directions are not the strong suit of any Filipina I have met.[/QUOTE]Ain't that the truth!
Back in Makati next week. Woot, it's been too long.
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Super Model escorts
Hi guys,
I have been to manila many times. But the girls I see are usually at best a 7 or 8. But I have seen guys with girls that are perfect tens. I wonder where you find these girls? Anyone can help? Whats' the usual damage?
Thanks in advance!
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Directions
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[QUOTE=SpongeMonk;1700380]Hi guys,
I have been to manila many times. But the girls I see are usually at best a 7 or 8. But I have seen guys with girls that are perfect tens. I wonder where you find these girls? Anyone can help? Whats' the usual damage?
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Best looking girls I have seen are in Korean and Japanese oriented KTV bars. Young with cute faces. Couple of times I went with a friend. It is not for people with limited budgets. A night at KTV will cost min 15000 pesos just for drinks, food and company at your table. If you want to take the girl home it is negotiated between you and the girl. But I bet it will be at least 6000 pesos. I did not take any girl from there. Yes, you can kiss and grope the girls. My friend said most do not take the girls home and they are very happy getting drunk and having a party there.
Did not see any girls with big boobs. These girls had a slim body and pretty. Very friendly. In spite of the owners seem to like Koreans and Japanese anybody can go there but it will be boring to go alone because the bar expects you to spend money there. It is not like go pick up a girl and go home.
Next option is escort girls. Here you need to deal with bait and switch. Worst is these girls may say I do not do this and that and the service quality is suspect.
Makati and EDSA bars have some good lookers. Cost will be upwards of 6000 pesos. I have taken some from EDSA before and had a good time. One girl real pretty and big boobs I took was nice GFE. At that time she said she worked part time. She told me she is a mistress of well known lawyer in Manila. She stayed with me three days and of course got lots of calls from the lawyer. She will go meet him for couple of hours and come and stay with me. Refused money offered. However I took her shopping and bought her some things. I bet if the lawyer found out I would have been in trouble because she was ostensibly not supposed to date other men. She told me he gets drunk and does not perform.
There are many good looking girls in the big casinos looking for a big payday. These girls are addicted to gambling and high standards seems like. Will not go with anybody. Of course money talks.
Manila is full of very pretty girls and if you are not worried about money I am sure you can find. As for service and attitude it is whole different story.
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Mindanao girls
With no doubt, almost every girl I talk to in DIA or in manila originally came from Mindanao. I think I have an attraction for them. Its too much of a coincidence to find out all of them are from there.
What's up with Mindanao? Do they have better water to raise beautiful women?
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Uber To The Rescue
Last month I returned from the best trip ever that included Subic, Makati, Puerto Galera and concluded back in Makati. On Friday afternoon I decided to take my GF shopping with my friend and his GF. They wanted to go to Greenhills Mall. Nice afternoon shopping had lunch in the Japanese Tempanyaki Restaurant and around 4 got in the Taxi Line for the ride back to Dusit. Friday afternoon is next to impossible to get a taxi in Manila. One hour later we get our Taxi. As the Taxi got 1 block from Greenhills a passing driver signaled the driver we had a Flat Tire. Naturally he had no spare. So there we were in the middle of nowhere up $hits Creek. Thankfully I remembered I had installed Uber on my phone. I activated it and within 10 minutes our Uber driver showed up and whisked us away in bumper to bumper traffic to our hotel in Makati. Damage? P325. What a bargain. I would have paid anything to be rescued.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer69;1700524]Last month I returned from the best trip ever that included Subic, Makati, Puerto Galera and concluded back in Makati. On Friday afternoon I decided to take my GF shopping with my friend and his GF. They wanted to go to Greenhills Mall. Nice afternoon shopping had lunch in the Japanese Tempanyaki Restaurant and around 4 got in the Taxi Line for the ride back to Dusit. Friday afternoon is next to impossible to get a taxi in Manila. One hour later we get our Taxi. As the Taxi got 1 block from Greenhills a passing driver signaled the driver we had a Flat Tire. Naturally he had no spare. So there we were in the middle of nowhere up $hits Creek. Thankfully I remembered I had installed Uber on my phone. I activated it and within 10 minutes our Uber driver showed up and whisked us away in bumper to bumper traffic to our hotel in Makati. Damage? P325. What a bargain. I would have paid anything to be rescued.[/QUOTE]I really like Uber, and use it whenever possible. The problem is availability. At this time in Manila, Uber is sort of hit or miss. There are Uber drivers available maybe half the time. Hopefully this will get better as more drivers see an opportunity to make money with Uber.
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[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1700598]I really like Uber, and use it whenever possible. The problem is availability. At this time in Manila, Uber is sort of hit or miss. There are Uber drivers available maybe half the time. Hopefully this will get better as more drivers see an opportunity to make money with Uber.[/QUOTE]My Makati hotel just informed me that NAIA pickup is now 1500.
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I just checked on Uber. They are quoting 170 P Black Car. To Glorietta. Dusit.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1700599]My Makati hotel just informed me that NAIA pickup is now 1500.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=VIPhawaii;1700482]What's up with Mindanao? [/QUOTE]Although Mindanao has pockets of modest prosperity, as a whole it has higher levels of poverty than elsewhere in the Philippines. DIA and Manila offer, each in its own way, the prospect of economic opportunity.
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[QUOTE=VIPhawaii;1700482]With no doubt, almost every girl I talk to in DIA or in manila originally came from Mindanao. I think I have an attraction for them. Its too much of a coincidence to find out all of them are from there.
What's up with Mindanao? Do they have better water to raise beautiful women?[/QUOTE]It's purely coincidental and an impression that you have formed VIPH.
DIA and other sites also have heaps of attractive women from different regions. Some guys have PM'ed me about girls from the north because, in general, Ilokanas are darker than their Visayan or Tagalog sisters and that appeals to many guys. Again, in general, girls from southern Mindanao are also darker. Perhaps that's why some guys prefer some regions to others.
Each region, province and division has its own particular charm and you should not restrict your "search" to any one geographical area. Pearls pop up in the most unexpected places.
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Airport Transport
There's been some discussion recently about the most effective transport modalities from the airport to various points in! Etro Manila. I've written previously about my satisfaction with the reliability and cost of Uber, but thought I'd toss today's experience into the mix. I flew today, as I do most weeks, from Davao to Manila, and called up the Uber app before the doors on the plane had even opened. I could see from the map that there were Uber cars quite close, so I requested a car and, once it was confirmed, texted the driver where to find me. By the time I arrived outside my wait was about ten minutes, which, allowing for the usual vehicular anarchy at the arrivals exit, wasn't bad. The cost of the trip from Terminal 3 to the Fairmont was P145, inclusive of the Php20 skyway toll which the driver paid. As always, the car was immaculate and the driver was very courteous.
GE.
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I concur
[QUOTE=VIPhawaii;1700482]With no doubt, almost every girl I talk to in DIA or in manila originally came from Mindanao. I think I have an attraction for them. Its too much of a coincidence to find out all of them are from there.
What's up with Mindanao? Do they have better water to raise beautiful women?[/QUOTE]I agree completely in fact the area around Zamboanga must have a hot girl FACTORY there, same with CDO! To bad it is mostly off limits! I think some hot chicks list their location as there to keep you from visiting (ie FAKE profiles), also all the women now in China are inordinately HOT to.
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[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1702211]I agree completely in fact the area around Zamboanga must have a hot girl FACTORY there, same with CDO! To bad it is mostly off limits! I think some hot chicks list their location as there to keep you from visiting (ie FAKE profiles), also all the women now in China are inordinately HOT to.
PP.[/QUOTE]CDO is a perfectly safe spot to visit and, for those of you who really believe it's a girl factory you should have no qualms about checking it out. The flight from Manila will take about 90 minutes, but the trip from the new airport into town will take about another 30.
GE.
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I agree
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1702341]CDO is a perfectly safe spot to visit and, for those of you who really believe it's a girl factory you should have no qualms about checking it out. The flight from Manila will take about 90 minutes, but the trip from the new airport into town will take about another 30.
GE.[/QUOTE]Yes My comment about being off limits referred to Zamboanga, I have been to CDO myself many times. Its a dump but its seems safe enough.
PP.
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Brief Stopover in Manila
On my way home I had an overnight in Manila. Stayed in Remington near Terminal 3. Nice looking hotel from the outside but crap bathroom and a dark room.
Went to Café Havana and had a scout around. It was only 7 pm so only the old dogs looking for business. No problem as I had arranged a meeting with a slim 25 year old with a very hairy Bush that I met outside Café Havana on my previous trip. Very pretty face but body conscious when there is no need to be. Its a fine body but she has this idea that because she is dark skinned she is ugly. Anyway, we went to dinner in GB, tried the Persian / Indian restaurant upstairs from Café Havana. Food horrendous!
Back to the hotel and time for fun. As this was the 3rd time we had met there was no shyness so it was good. Very tight pussy! But very wet and a very good cocksucker. Just seems to know when to squeeze!
Next day she had to go to work so I am at a loose end until my 8 pm flight. God knows why but I am still horny! So it is off to La café for daytime fun.
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Dark skin
It amazes me that the most beautiful women in the world want to bleach their skin to look like a white person. According to their beliefs that it you are light skinned you are higher class because you do not labor in the fields. I myself like my women nice and tanned.
[QUOTE=FatBruce;1702665]On my way home I had an overnight in Manila. Stayed in Remington near Terminal 3. Nice looking hotel from the outside but crap bathroom and a dark room.
Went to Caf Havana and had a scout around. It was only 7 pm so only the old dogs looking for business. No problem as I had arranged a meeting with a slim 25 year old with a very hairy Bush that I met outside Caf Havana on my previous trip. Very pretty face but body conscious when there is no need to be. Its a fine body but she has this idea that because she is dark skinned she is ugly. Anyway, we went to dinner in GB, tried the Persian / Indian restaurant upstairs from Caf Havana. Food horrendous!
Back to the hotel and time for fun. As this was the 3rd time we had met there was no shyness so it was good. Very tight pussy! But very wet and a very good cocksucker. Just seems to know when to squeeze!
Next day she had to go to work so I am at a loose end until my 8 pm flight. God knows why but I am still horny! So it is off to La caf for daytime fun.[/QUOTE]
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One Night in Manila. Where should I go?
I will be in Manila for only one night, a Saturday night, before I fly out the next morning. I used to go to Manila Bay Cafe, but the last time I was in Manila 3 years ago the area was horrible at night. Also the quality of girls there was not good. Where would you recommend that I go that is in a safer location, but has a similar atmosphere to find a girl? Where is Club Havana? Is that any good? Or is there somewhere else better that you can recommend? Thanks for your help.
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[QUOTE=BigJohnson2;1702863]I will be in Manila for only one night, a Saturday night, before I fly out the next morning. I used to go to Manila Bay Cafe, but the last time I was in Manila 3 years ago the area was horrible at night. Also the quality of girls there was not good. Where would you recommend that I go that is in a safer location, but has a similar atmosphere to find a girl? Where is Club Havana? Is that any good? Or is there somewhere else better that you can recommend? Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]Green Belt Mall in Makati. Ground level of Green Belt 3. Saturday night is a good night. Expect it to be crowded. Burgos girly bar district is short taxi ride away. All of this info is very thoroughly and frequently documented in the forum. As is info about the hotels in both areas. And restaurants. And taxis.
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Area around LA Cafe
[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1693709]Who else is in town. I will be here for a couple weeks, staying near the caf if anyone else is in town.
Chris[/QUOTE]I see you were recently at LA Cafe and Amozonia? When did they rename it LA Cafe. I know for a while it was Manila Bay Cafe. I haven't stayed in the area in 3 years. How safe is it around that area at night. The area was really bad 3 years ago and the girls were not very good there. How is the quality of the girls at these two clubs. I would be there for one night on a Saturday. Any other suggestions of similar places in better areas that may have better looking girls?
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Green Belt 3
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1702866]Green Belt Mall in Makati. Ground level of Green Belt 3. Saturday night is a good night. Expect it to be crowded. Burgos girly bar district is short taxi ride away. All of this info is very thoroughly and frequently documented in the forum. As is info about the hotels in both areas. And restaurants. And taxis.[/QUOTE]Hutsori, thanks so much. I've never been to Green Belt 3. Should I tell the taxi driver Green Belt 3. Also as far as hotels, are there ones within walking distance or should I just look for one in Makati and take a taxi. I'm looking forward to checking it out, because I've heard about Green Belt just didn't know much about it. Thanks again for the info.
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Mocha Brown
[QUOTE=AzmodeusFl;1702731]It amazes me that the most beautiful women in the world want to bleach their skin to look like a white person. According to their beliefs that it you are light skinned you are higher class because you do not labor in the fields. I myself like my women nice and tanned.[/QUOTE]One of the things I love about the Filipinas are that come in so many pretty shades of brown. As far as I am concerned, the browner the better as long as they are cute.
I had a text from one of my girls that complained that I was spending "more time" with her "morena" friend than I did with her. Her thought wa that she was whiter that she must be prettier. She is cute enough and a great little slim hard body BUT in that case it had more to do with timing and schedule than anything else.
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Taxis and Hotels
Any Taxi Driver will know Greenbelt 3. The closest hotel is New World Hotel $150 no breakfast directly across the street, only a two minute walk. I've stayed there many times. Also nearby is Holiday Inn $125 , Fairmont $225 no breakfast, and Dusit which I stayed at in February. A 10 minute walk but best value, nice pool $105 with breakfast. Good Luck.
[QUOTE=BigJohnson2;1702880]Hutsori, thanks so much. I've never been to Green Belt 3. Should I tell the taxi driver Green Belt 3. Also as far as hotels, are there ones within walking distance or should I just look for one in Makati and take a taxi. I'm looking forward to checking it out, because I've heard about Green Belt just didn't know much about it. Thanks again for the info.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BigJohnson2;1702877]I see you were recently at LA Cafe and Amozonia? When did they rename it LA Cafe. I know for a while it was Manila Bay Cafe. I haven't stayed in the area in 3 years. How safe is it around that area at night. The area was really bad 3 years ago and the girls were not very good there. How is the quality of the girls at these two clubs. I would be there for one night on a Saturday. Any other suggestions of similar places in better areas that may have better looking girls?[/QUOTE]I walked all around the area going from G point to LA Café at all hours of the day and night by myself and never had a problem. But I'm six foot nine, two hundred and eighty pounds of solid muscle so I never have a problem any where I go. No I'm just joking I'm short pudgy mid fifties and have the complexion of a florescent light bulb I would be an obvious target if anyone wanted to do me harm. But I never had a problem there at all and felt the area was pretty safe. Apart from an occasional taught (SP?) wanting to show me some bar I never had any problems. Personally I felt the women at G point Amazonia and LA café were in the 6 to 7 with a few 8's range. All were pretty much easy to pick up and easy to take. Standard price is 1500 pesos but some of the 8's felt they were worth 2000 pesos.
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[QUOTE=BigJohnson2;1702863]I will be in Manila for only one night, a Saturday night, before I fly out the next morning. I used to go to Manila Bay Cafe, but the last time I was in Manila 3 years ago the area was horrible at night. Also the quality of girls there was not good. Where would you recommend that I go that is in a safer location, but has a similar atmosphere to find a girl? Where is Club Havana? Is that any good? Or is there somewhere else better that you can recommend? Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]Café Havana is in the inner court yard of greenbelt three every cabbie will know where it is. There's a big sign that says Green belt three above the door walk inside the main door walk through to the other side and go out into the court yard Café Havana will be on your right there are several little outdoor restaurants all sandwich together next to one another with umbrella roofs over the tables with the names of the restaurants you will know Café Havana because it will be the one with the most people. Every time I was there it was very difficult to get a seat as all the tables were always full. Dress is a little more upscale here not tux and bow tie but you will definitely look and feel out of place showing up in a tank top and sandals. Dress as if you are going out to a nice dinner with friends back in the states. Most of the girls quoted me 4000 pesos but would come down to two or three thousand. The girls in my opinion were more in the seven to eight range.
Chris
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[QUOTE=BigJohnson2;1702877]I see you were recently at LA Cafe and Amozonia? When did they rename it LA Cafe. I know for a while it was Manila Bay Cafe. I haven't stayed in the area in 3 years. How safe is it around that area at night. The area was really bad 3 years ago and the girls were not very good there. How is the quality of the girls at these two clubs. I would be there for one night on a Saturday. Any other suggestions of similar places in better areas that may have better looking girls?[/QUOTE]On another note if you only have one night and price is no object you may want to consider staying on Burges street. A real lively atmosphere with gogo bars outdoor cafes and hotel restaurants. Freelancer massage girls walking around. Here is where I found the best looking women of the whole trip the gogo girls ranged in my opinion to being sixes and sevens to arguably some nines and tens available. I thought Bottoms gogo bar had the best looking girls arguably some tens available in there but at a very hefty price. Bar fine was 4000 pesos and the girls were initially asking for 4000 pesos short time. But many would go down to 3000 pesos. Across the street from Bottoms is what I felt was the second best gogo bar the something or another. Here there were in my opinion some solid nines to be had and prices were a little more reasonable. That is reasonable for Manila and Burges street. Bar fine was 2000 pesos and the girls were asking for 3000 pesos short time.
Chris
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Food quality
[QUOTE=Random99;1699457]Sorry if I'm cherry picking the quote about white rice, but Korean women and Japanese women both have a diet tilted towards white rice. Not sure if you can generalize since K-women and J-women can be quite skinny.[/QUOTE]The Indonesian diet is also rice-based. "If an Indonesian hasn't eaten rice, he hasn't eaten". Nevertheless there is a plentiful supply of attractive Indonesian women. Rice is not the problem.
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6 days in PI
I land mid May for a 6 day trip, land at 6 pm and have a hotel in AC set to pick me up at the airport for 2700 peso's each way. What are my options arriving so late? How much would it cost me to get to a hotel in Manila near Burgos street? I won't have a local sim card but its possible the Thai sim card that I will be picking up can be made to work in PI for Uber (but I won't be on it). What's the price difference between taking a girl in AC compared to Manila? Should I just stick to AC expecting the costs to even out at the end?
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[QUOTE=Breadman;1703488]I land mid May for a 6 day trip, land at 6 pm and have a hotel in AC set to pick me up at the airport for 2700 peso's each way. What are my options arriving so late? How much would it cost me to get to a hotel in Manila near Burgos street? I won't have a local sim card but its possible the Thai sim card that I will be picking up can be made to work in PI for Uber (but I won't be on it). What's the price difference between taking a girl in AC compared to Manila? Should I just stick to AC expecting the costs to even out at the end?[/QUOTE]Hotel and girls will be cheaper in Angeles City / Rejection City but plan on getting shot down at a minimum at least once a day by the AC girls. Menstruation is a word you will hear a lot in AC.
Chris
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[QUOTE=Breadman;1703488]I land mid May for a 6 day trip, land at 6 pm and have a hotel in AC set to pick me up at the airport for 2700 peso's each way. What are my options arriving so late? How much would it cost me to get to a hotel in Manila near Burgos street? I won't have a local sim card but its possible the Thai sim card that I will be picking up can be made to work in PI for Uber (but I won't be on it). What's the price difference between taking a girl in AC compared to Manila? Should I just stick to AC expecting the costs to even out at the end?[/QUOTE]If you are looking for straight up prostitutes, ac is better and cheaper. Also you can easily pick up sim cards at any airport location.
As for hotels, why don't you use a hotel booking website and find that info yourself.
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Hmmm
I landed in Manila about 7 pm not long ago on a Sunday night. Had a car waiting for me. Got to AC at 10,10:30. Got settled, went to Pony tails I think. Didn't get a girl, went to Eruptions and got a nice lady for $3000,it was very late..... Also, My car was $2700 to AC, I took a bus to Manila, $600 or $650, cancelled car to airport, took a girl with me and had a ball in with her for a night. I say go t AC unless u just want some stuff in Manila. Like I said had a ball, gave the saved money to the girl
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Hong Kong / Philippines diary, day 14
This diary is a continuation of six days I posted on the Hong Kong forum in which I explored the 141 apartment blocks. I went to China afterwards but did not post anything because I was there as a tourist and there was nothing worthwhile to report. I'll be spending two nights in Manila, then eight nights in Angeles. To give you some context for my diary I'm a 40 year old English man and this will be my third trip to Philippines.
Day 14, Manila.
I got to Beijing Airport early for my flight to Manila. As much as I loved Hong Kong and visiting China, this was the part of my trip I was looking forward to most. Philippines. Just mentioning the word sent a shiver of excitement down my spine.
In previous trips to Philippines I've been flying solo but this time I would be accompanied by my friends Owen and Macca. I was looking forward to seeing them, not least because I'd been in China for one week on my own and had been surprised by the lack of English spoken. I went days without having a proper conversation! It would be Owen and Macca's first time in Philippines so I felt under pressure for them to like it. They are both Pattaya veterans and it was my stories about Philippines that inspired them to visit.
My Cebu Pacific flight lifted off the tarmac of Beijing Airport at 1 am and I managed a few hours sleep before we touched down in Manila at 5. 30 am. Sometimes immigration and taxi queues at Ninoy Aquino can be chaotic but at this early hour I flew through. I took a metered taxi to my hotel in Ermita. After the language barriers I encountered in China it was a pleasure to have a knowledgeable and friendly taxi driver to talk to. As we drove along Roxas Boulevard the early morning sun glimmered off the shiny jeepneys and the water across Manila Bay. We turned right on to M. H Del Pilar Street and I felt a thrill when we passed LA Cafe. I'd met some fabulous girls there in previous visits to Manila. We turned right on to the narrow road next to Amazonia, left on to Mabini Street and a short distance later the taxi pulled up in front of Citystate Tower. The fare from the airport came to 202 pesos.
In past visits I've stayed in Amazonia Hotel, purely based on its proximity to LA Cafe. However the rooms can be dark and noisy so I decided to splash out 2000 pesos a night for a room at Citystate Tower instead, which is only a five minute walk from LA Cafe. The time was 7 am and the pretty receptionist told me that I would have to wait until my room was available. I bought myself an expensive glass of orange juice from the hotel bar but before I'd taken a sip, the receptionist walked over and told me that my room was ready. It was on the 4th floor and was spacious with a king-size bed, large bathroom, a safe and a minibar. I dumped my luggage in the corner, collapsed on to the bed and fell asleep. It had been a long night of travel.
I woke at midday. Owen and Macca would be arriving from Thailand later and we had arranged to meet at LA Cafe at 9 pm. That gave me all afternoon. I was tempted to find a girl for short-time but I had a few chores to carry out. Firstly I needed to go to Robinsons to buy a socket adapter. After the crisp temperatures of Beijing it was nice to feel the warmth of the sun on my skin. Near Robinsons a short man approached with a big smile and said "Hi, I work as security at your hotel". It's a common scam in Manila that will end up with you paying for 'lady company' in a nearby bar. I fell for it on my cherry trip to Philippines, when I got taken to a bar called Red Rooster where a 'university student' sat on my knee and the bar tried to charge me 1500 pesos.
For residents of Manila, I'm sure these malls can be gold-mines. Sit on a stool at any of the cafes, restaurants or bakeries near the entrance and make eye contact with pretty girls as they walk past and if you've got good game you can collect their phone numbers. Sadly though I didn't have time for mall-trawling on this trip. I had also ruled out the gogo bars of EDSA or P. Burgos Street as in two days we would be heading to Angeles where pretty girls are available for a fraction of the price. LA Cafe would be my hunting ground of choice.
I spent a few hours in the internet cafe a few doors along from LA Cafe. It had halved in size since my last visit. There was only one other customer, a foxy cougar chatting on Skype to someone, presumably a former customer. The cashier was probably mid 30's but had a pretty face and the type of smile that could make grown men melt.
By 5 pm I was getting impatient, so decided to drop in to LA Cafe for a quick beer. I was pleased to see that it has changed its name back to LA Cafe as the girls I took from there were never as pretty when it was renamed Manila Bay Cafe. I entered and was pleased to see that nothing much has changed inside. Dozens of girls sat around the bar and a pretty waitress in orange ushered me to sit at a spare stool in the middle. I ordered my first San Miguel (95 pesos) and scanned around the bar. Unattached girls caught my eye and smiled. At this time of the day the talent can be thin but the nature of any freelance joint is that there is always a gem or two waiting to be found. The majority of girls this afternoon were eager older girls aged 30 plus, but I saw a couple of pretty ones too. I was excited to be back.
When you are on your own in places like this, it's difficult to know who is hunting who. An average looking older woman walked over and said "mind if I sit here?" and sat on a stool next to me. She fiddled about in her handbag for a while before looking over and saying "what your name?" It's often the way that the more experienced girls are the ones who have the confidence to approach single guys while the younger, prettier girls sit on their own. She fired the usual questions at me (where you from? Where you stay?) and when she detected a lack of interest she told me "I give you special massage" with a cheeky smile. I finished my beer, said goodbye and went back to my hotel.
I had dinner at the ever popular G-Point. It has good food, live music and is another place to pick up freelance girls, albeit on a smaller scale than LA Cafe. It was 6 pm when I walked in and it was crowded with customers. There weren't many freelancers, just a few playing pool and four average girls sat at a table in the middle. One of them was a 2/10 but had massive natural tits that wobbled suggestively every time she shifted in her seat. I sat on the only free table and ordered food. The menu had lots of western food including a range of steaks and kebabs, as well as popular Asian dishes. Country and western music played as I ate. A bell rang and moments later a waitress placed another bottle of San Miguel in front of me. You can see why this bar is popular when they look after their customers with free drinks! By 7 pm the place was packed but unlike LA Cafe customers comfortably outnumbered girls. There were perhaps 25 available freelancers, most of whom were probably over 30. There were some foxy ones though. One particularly fine specimen walked past in a figure-hugging red dress and sat next to a man with silver hair.
Some loud music started to play and five waitresses did a dance routine in the middle of the bar. I'd forgotten how much Filipino girls love to dance. They each wore black and white polka dot dresses and a few of them were pretty. The best looking was at the front and seemed to be the lead dancer. A girl who can dance that well must be dynamite in the bedroom.
At 8 pm I went to LA Cafe. It's funny, in the past few weeks I'd visited the Great Wall and Forbidden City in Beijing, seen giant pandas in Chengdu and some of the most spectacular scenery I've ever seen in Guilin, not to forget the sights, sounds and smells of Hong Kong, yet the part of this trip I was looking forward to most was seeing Owen and Macca in a seedy bar in Manila! They arrived together and it was great to see them again. We clinked bottles of beer and they told me about their holiday so far. They'd enjoyed their time in Pattaya but were excited to be in Philippines for the first time. They were like kids in a toy-shop, looking around at all of the girls who met their glances with a smile.
There were some nice girls. Macca got chatting with a girl called Anna, sat on the next table, and on a stool opposite there was a small girl with an average face but a huge rack. Although I like to think I'm a cut above neanderthal man, I couldn't stop staring. Three middle-aged Japanese men sat at a spare table and a crowd of girls gathered around and lavished them with attention. Japanese and Korean customers are the golden ticket for girls in places like this. Big spenders with low sex drive. So the girls tell me anyway.
At 11 pm we went to the bar upstairs where a band was playing. It costs 100 pesos to enter but is generally where the prettier girls can be found. To the right is a large open bar that seems predominantly for Korean and Japanese customers. They sit smoking in the middle and maybe a dozen pretty girls sit on the sidelines, hoping to be summoned. It all seemed very cold and clinical. Surely going to a bar to pick up girls should be fun? No-one was smiling and it seemed very joyless. One of the girls was fabulous. She was small with pale skin and an hourglass figure but she only had eyes for a table of four Koreans.
The bar on the other side of the stairs is much better. The band was excellent and there was a lively, fun atmosphere. Girls were gathered in groups and met my gaze whenever I looked over. It's what I like to call a 'target-rich environment'. Which was just as well because it was getting late and we were all keen to find a girl. The hunt was on.
Macca got chatting with a cute young girl named Lily. She was a smiley little thing so he offered her a drink but regretted it when he found out he'd been charged a hefty 350 pesos for a small shot of tequila. Lady-drinks are always marked up but that is ridiculous! Owen got talking to a nice looker called Grace who was wearing a blue dress. Two cocktails appeared on our table in Martini glasses and everyone clinked glasses. Both lady-drink bills got placed in to the same cup and I knew that Owen and Macca would end up arguing about the chit when it came time to pay!
With Owen and Macca happily paired up, I needed to find a girl of my own. My favourite was a lovely looking girl with pale skin and westernised facial features. She reminded me of my friends out-of-bounds younger sister back in England so it would be like forbidden fruit fucking her. But sadly she was only interested in the Korean customers and I couldn't catch her eye.
Two girls walked to the top of the stairs, one of whom was beautiful with dark skin and long curly hair. She had a pretty face with big blowjob lips and wore a tight white dress with 'raw like sushi' written in big black letters. She had a sensational body. She reminded of 'Amazonian Princess', a girl I met in LA Cafe several years ago who provided me with some of the best sex I've ever had. I caught her eye and said "Hi" and she walked over. Her name was Ace which I thought was appropriate. I offered her a drink but she explained that girls can only stay upstairs if they have a lady-drink and since her friend didn't have one, she had to go downstairs. "Unless you buy friend drink too?" she said hopefully. As sexy as Ace was, I didn't want to subsidise her friends evening. I considered going downstairs with her but I wasn't picking up good vibes. She seemed a hard-core pro, working the room.
By midnight there were lots of girls upstairs and a good percentage were pretty (they say that cream rises to the top!) . Girls have to pay to enter the bar upstairs so it generally means better quality as these girls are confident they can recoup their entrance fee.
I spotted a very pretty girl sat on a table behind me with a Posh Spice haircut. She was wearing a cute black and white dress and had an air of elegance about her. She wasn't flirting with every customer who looked over, she was just sitting there talking to her friend. She saw me looking, gave me a barely discernible smile and returned her attention to her friend. I interpreted this as lack of interest but I was wrong. A few minutes later she changed positions and was stood between me and the band, directly in my line of vision. I smiled and this time she smiled back warmly. She had braces on her teeth. I called her over.
She was prettier up close and looked younger than she had appeared from a distance. Her name was Jonalyn and she was 26. Within a few minutes of chatting with her I knew I'd found my girl for the night. She wasn't just pretty, she had a playful sense of humour and whenever I made her laugh she pinched me on the nose. "I think all of the girls like you" she said to me and hugged me defensively (she was wrong of course, half of the girls only had eyes for the Koreans!) When I asked why she said "you juicy!" before pinching me painfully on the nose again.
I asked her if she'd like to stay the night with me and she nodded. I had done some research so instead of asking her how much, I told her I would give her 2500 pesos which seemed a fair price given the quality of girl. I know girls can be acquired for cheaper but prettier girls command higher prices and I suspected Jonalyn would laugh in my face if I opened negotiations with 1500. Also experience has taught me that although it's possible to get girls cheaper with some hard bargaining, it often results in inferior service in the bedroom. I added my trademark line "plus tip if you make me smile" and she laughed. Deal done. I told Owen and Macca that I was leaving. Macca was also about to leave with his girl Lily but Owen had decided not to take Grace. He told me that she had been weird with him, chastising him for the way he waved her over from the next table. It seemed a strange thing for her to say, after all, I called Jonalyn over in exactly the same way. "I'll find a girl downstairs instead" he said.
Jonalyn and I walked hand-in-hand back to Citystate Tower. Earlier when I checked in to my room I had noticed an A4 sheet of 'house rules' on the back of the door and was concerned to read 'No guests after 10 pm'. I was amazed. Surely every hotel in Ermita allows overnight guests, especially those close to LA Cafe! I held my breath as Jonalyn and I passed the security guards outside. If anyone stopped us I was prepared to offer a small bribe or, worst case scenario, go to a nearby hotel like Amazonia. But thankfully no-one said anything and we passed security and the reception desk without trouble.
In my room we chatted for half an hour and once again I remembered why I love Philippines so much. The girls speak such good English you can have a proper conversation and get to know them better. As much as I love Thailand, sometimes the same old conversations get tiresome. And in places like Hong Kong the conversation can be non-existent! It made me smile thinking back to the chat I had with Yukie in the Tung Choi apartment block, in which we painstakingly typed each message in to a translation app on her phone. Romantic!
"I go shower" Jonalyn said. Ten minutes later she came out of the bathroom wrapped in a towel and that was my cue to wash myself. She was still wrapped in a towel when I lay next to her on the bed. There was a little bit of tension in the air as she waited for me to make the first move, that suggested she hadn't been working at LA Cafe for long. She was a fabulous kisser, soft and sensual, her tongue darting in and out of my mouth. I knew I was in for a good time. Soon her towel lay discarded at the bottom of the bed. She had a slim body with flawless brown skin and small tits. "These too small" she said apologetically but I disagreed. Although I like big tits, small breasts can be cute too.
I put a condom on and she gasped as I slowly slid in to her tight pussy. I fucked her gently at first but it had been over a week since my last girl and before long I was fucking her as hard and fast as I could. I manoeuvred her on to her side and fucked her from behind as she kissed me over her shoulder, then she rode me as I held her small tits. This was the kind of girlfriend sex I love. We tried a number of different positions and for half an hour we couldn't get enough of each other, kissing each other almost constantly. In Hong Kong I'd struggled to find the girlfriend experience but I knew Philippines wouldn't let me down. She rode me to a climax and then she lay on top of me as we struggled to get our breaths back. I love it when you stay inside your girl after you have fucked her. She laid on top of me, hard nipples on my chest and her pussy tightly grippped my twitching dick.
It was a great session and the perfect appetiser for the ten days that lay ahead in Philippines.
We curled up to each other and I'm sure I fell asleep with a smile on my face. Welcome to Philippines.
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Great report, Sir Lancelot. And a pretty girl too.
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[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1704429]Day 14, Manila.
We curled up to each other and I'm sure I fell asleep with a smile on my face. Welcome to Philippines.[/QUOTE]A well-written and entertaining read. Thanks.
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Sir Lance is always quite detailed. Welcome back.
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Hong Kong / Philippines diary, day 15
Day 15, Manila.
For some people 'long-time' means the opportunity to fuck a girl as many times as possible, to get full bang for their bucks. But for me I enjoy sleeping curled up with a girl and then sometimes having sex again in the morning. Jonalyn was brilliant. She hugged up to me all night and would randomly wake me with kisses. This is the kind of intimacy I look for. On the down side, how can such a petite girl steal so much of the bed?! At one point I woke up hanging precariously over the edge. I wondered whether being knocked out of bed by a 5 foot freelance hooker would be covered in my insurance.
We stayed in bed till midday, talking, kissing and cuddling. I think she liked me because she dropped hints as subtle as a sledgehammer. At one point I asked her to play her favourite song on her phone and she played 'True Love' by Pink. Later when I asked her to teach me a Tagalog phrase she taught me 'mal ga tar' which means 'I love you'. I took her by the hand with a straight face, stared deeply in to her eyes and told her "Jonalyn, ever since we met I wanted to tell you something. Mal ga tar". She laughed.
What a brilliant girl. She gave me one of the best girlfriend experiences I've ever had and was the perfect way to start my time in Philippines. We swapped phone numbers and I slid three rolled up thousands in to her hand before she left at 1 pm. Two minutes later I got a phone call from security telling me that my guest was leaving and was that okay. It proved that despite the 'no guests after 10 pm' sign on the back of my door, lady guests are welcome.
At 3 pm I met Owen in LA Cafe. It was just the two of us because Macca had arranged to meet a girl from Date In Asia. I asked Owen whether he went with a girl last night and he told me that after I left he tried his luck downstairs but didn't see any to float his boat so decided to call it a night. I told him about my night with Jonalyn as we ordered food. Philippines isn't renowned for its cuisine but Owen ordered sisig, a spicy pork dish, and it was delicious. I opted for nasi goreng, an Indonesian fried rice which was also tasty. Fair to say the food has improved in LA Cafe since my last visit.
LA Cafe is much quieter during the afternoon but there were still about 40 girls sat around the bar. One of them, sat near the door, was just my type. She had long hair down to her waist and a Japanese look with thick glasses that looked geeky but fashionable at the same time. I tried to make eye contact with her but she had tunnel vision so I returned my attention to Owen. Suddenly something happened I've never seen before in LA Cafe, a fight broke out between two girls near the pool table. A crowd of people rushed in and pulled the girls apart and they were led to the exit. I'm not sure what caused it but I suspect in places like this where girls are competing with each other to get the attention of customers, it must be easy for tensions to build.
We paid our chits and decided to go for a walk to Robinsons mall. We turned right after the brightly coloured Amazonia and walked up Sta Monica Street. Just past the entrance to Amazonia hotel is a hair salon and I always look in as I walk past as my first ever girl in Philippines, big boobs Jessica, used to work there. That was five years ago now and unsurprisingly she wasn't there. We passed a barbecue grill where a pretty girl in a yellow dress was buying chicken skewers. "I like Philippines" said Owen, "there are pretty girls everywhere you look". He wanted to change some Thai baht in to pesos so I took him to a money changer I'd passed many times. It was on the corner of M. H. Del Pilar Street and is a small counter inside another hair salon. He got a decent exchange rate and I was able to swap smiles with a girl getting her hair curled.
We walked around for a short while before heading back to our respective hotels. Owen was staying in Paragon Tower on Antonio Flores Street, near Swagman Hotel ("large clean room, friendly staff, poor Wifi") . He told me that he was happy there but it was difficult to find and he kept getting lost. Being honest, I think it was more his lack of directional skills than the location of the hotel. Back in my room I took the opportunity to get a few hours of sleep, ahead of another night at LA Cafe.
I woke at 6. 30 and felt like a zombie, so had a shower to wake up. Although I like my room, the water is lukewarm and the cubicle is poorly designed so a puddle spreads across the bathroom floor every time I shower. I made a dam out of a hand towel. I got changed in to my smartest shirt, took a lift down to the ground floor and stepped out in to the warm Manila evening air.
The time was 7 pm when I entered LA Cafe and I scored a prime seat at a table next to the door. Owen arrived shortly afterwards, soon followed by Macca, who was glowing after his afternoon with a DateinAsia girl. Her name was Bianca and prior to the trip he had chatted with her on Skype so there were no nasty surprises when he met face-to-face for the first time. He told us she was a nice looking girl but apparently "talked about God a lot". Macca thought this might mean he wouldn't get chance to get in to her knickers but he needn't have worried, he had a short-time session with her for just 1000 pesos. I don't have the patience to meet Date In Asia girls but I believe the website is a rich source of eager young cuties available at cheap prices. Macca certainly seemed happy and gleefully pointed out to Owen that he was 2 nil up when it came to girls in Philippines.
Inevitably three handsome men like us attracted lots of attention from girls. A small girl in a tight blue dress came over. Her name was Eve and facially she was a 6/10 but she had a dazzling smile. She was a bubbly little thing and told me that she had been on holiday to Thailand ten times, which seemed to suggest that she was quite a pro. As if to prove it she stroked my leg higher and higher, before whispering "I give good massage". Macca also had company, Lily, the pretty girl he took from LA Cafe last night. She hugged up to his side and was clearly hoping for him to take her again tonight. When she went to the toilet Macca told me that although he had enjoyed last night with her, he wanted to go with a different girl tonight. When she got back he told her as tactfully as possible ("I'm tired, I not go with girl tonight") but inevitably it resulted in an awkward silence. She was no longer the same sweet, smiley girl and eventually she walked away to look for another customer. It was a shame it would tarnish Macca's memories of the great night he spent with her.
I ordered a burger and the guys teased me that they'd never seen anyone eat a hamburger with a knife and fork before.
Elsewhere in the bar there were loud screams as a crowd of girls gathered around three middle-aged men, presumably American given the fact that one of them was wearing a cowboy hat. They were splashing the cash big time, buying bottles of tequila and taking it in turns pouring it down girls throats from high above. They were spending a fortune and the girls loved it. These were prime targets for canny freelancers. Big spenders who would probably collapse drunk when back in the room! I noticed a few of the girls that I had seen in the Korean bar upstairs the night before, including a buxom girl with a South American face (who was wearing an over-sized baseball cap at a 45 degree angle) and also the pretty girl who looked like my friends sister. Unlike the other girls who were laughing and joking with the men, these girls stood quietly nearby, seemingly unsure of what to do. I guessed they were used to dealing with Korean customers where their beauty was enough.
It was time for a stunning revelation. Macca and Owen told me that LA Cafe is the best bar they have ever been to. Again it's worth pointing out that these aren't giddy first-timers, they have visited Thailand many times and Owen in particular gets most of his girls from beer-bars. A comment like that from those pair meant something.
Owen spotted a girl at the bar who he liked the look of. She was one of those coy types who looks over and then quickly looks away and then repeats the process over and over. Owen was sat in an awkward position, blocked in by various people, so he made the unprecedented step of asking Macca to talk to the girl on his behalf. It was like being in the school playground ("my mate fancies you!"). As Macca walked over, a girl tapped Owen on the shoulder and said "you like?" , pointing to her average looking friend stood nearby. "I not need help finding girl" said Owen with a smile. I couldn't resist pointing out to him that actually he did, because Macca was currently chatting a girl up on his behalf!
I went to the toilet and there was a Filipino man handing out towels next to the sink, a pet hate of mine. Earlier in the night I'd given him a small tip but this time I walked towards the door without giving him anything. He grabbed my arm to prevent me from leaving and nodded aggressively towards the tray. I shrugged him off, gave him a glare and walked out. I'm a generous tipper but it's ridiculous that he expected me to tip every time I went to the toilet. I certainly didn't appreciate being man-handled by him.
It was 11 pm so Owen, Macca and I decamped to the bar upstairs. We got the same table near the top of the stairs, offering us the perfect vantage point to see girls arriving. The place was busy and there was a lively atmosphere again. An excellent band were playing rock and pop cover versions, including 'Twist & Shout', 'American Pie' and 'With or Without You'. Owen and Macca ordered food. A woman nearby seemed to be bossing the younger waitresses around so Macca joked to her "I scared of you". She laughed and Macca added "If you tell me to clean toilet, I clean toilet!" Sadly she didn't ask him to.
There were plenty of girls but most of the prettiest sat facing the Korean section, where a group of six men sat in the middle under a thick haze of cigarette smoke. The girls would sit there looking bored, but whenever a Korean man looked over they smiled enigmatically. Occasionally they'd be given the nod and would walk over, where they'd obediently sit at his side while he chatted with friends. There were some very pretty girls indeed. Every now and then one of them stood up and went downstairs to try their luck with someone else. I tried to make eye contact with them as they walked past but they weren't interested in Westerners like me.
Owen was deep in conversation with a pretty girl called Christina. It never ceases to amaze me how quickly he gets talking to girls in bars. I scanned around and spotted a lovely girl wearing an elegant floral outfit. She smiled to me. She had a gorgeous face and a really curvy body that I couldn't help but mentally undress. I smiled and she knew she had me hooked.
But just as I was about to invite her over to sit with me, a familiar face appeared at the top of the stairs. It was Jonalyn. She was wearing a stripy top and looked pretty once again. Although I like to go with different girls, she was special. I'd enjoyed every minute of the night before, so I was more than happy to see her. She stood at my side and hugged up to me. I teased her about her snoring (albeit quiet, ladylike snores) and she punched my arm playfully. Whenever I made her laugh she covered her mouth, self conscious about the braces on her teeth. Although she was a pretty girl, she was surprisingly shy and lacked confidence. That said, I told her that Macca is a singer in England and she took great interest in checking his videos on youtube. I asked her if she sang and held my bottle out to her like a microphone and she pretended to give it a blowjob! Not quite as shy as I thought!
I asked her if she'd like to stay the night with me again and she said yes. I offered her 500 pesos for long-time which made her raise her eyebrows, but then added that I'd give her a 2500 peso tip if she made me smile. She laughed.
We agreed to meet outside Amazonia in five minutes. I said goodnight to the guys and stepped out of LA Cafe on to M. H. Del Pilar Street. The small stretch leading to Amazonia usually has several persistent beggars so it's always good to have a few loose coins in your pocket. I waited for a few minutes and saw Jonalyn approaching. A bedraggled old woman walked alongside her and thrust her hand out, asking for money. Jonalyn fished around in her handbag and handed her some coins. I've noticed freelance girls from LA Cafe often do this. They might be working in a difficult profession to support their family but they're always generous, kind-hearted people.
Back in my room we showered and then lay next to each other on the bed. She pushed me to lie on my back and then slowly kissed and licked her way down my body. I lay staring at the ceiling and thought 'I love you Philippines'. She then gave me an exceptional blowjob with lots of slow sucking and mmm's and even made an attempt at deepthroat. I watched her at work, her petite body crouched over me and her head bobbing up and down slowly. It was so good I could have let her finish me there and then but I wanted to fuck her. I put a condom on and then slid in to her tight pussy.
When you go with a girl the second time, the sex is always better. We fucked in a variety of positions. It was slow, sensual girlfriend sex with lots of eye contact, followed by fast and frantic sex with passionate kissing. I wanted to stretch it out as long as possible. We lay on our sides and I spooned her from behind. She kissed me over her shoulder and I reached down and rubbed her clit as I continued to fuck her. Every now and then I thrust in as far as I could go and she groaned. She rode me exactly how I like, knees on the bed and tightly gripping my dick with her pussy as she rocked back and forth. As she did so, she fixed me with a sexy stare. She had tiny tits but her nipples were erect. She then adjusted her position slightly and bounced up and down on me until I came.
We lay next to each other and chatted until late. At one point she touched my face and said "you look like clown". I must admit, it wasn't the best compliment I've ever received! I pretended to be upset but she told me that she meant I was always smiling. If you can't smile in Philippines when you're lay in bed next to a girl like Jonalyn, when can you smile? She continued to stroke my face and told me for the second time "every girl in LA Cafe like you". I joked that they like every customer, especially Koreans. "I hate Koreans, they rude" she said, before adding that Koreans don't like her very much either. I could see why in a way. Don't get me wrong, she was beautiful, but Koreans like pale skin, long hair and big boobs and she had none of those things.
I warned her about stealing too much of the bed again and she jokingly pretended to draw a line down the middle to divide the bed in half. A few minutes after the lights went off she whispered "you can come in to my half if you like". We fell asleep arm-in-arm.
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Sir Lancelot
Firstly, thanks to Sir Lancelot for an excellent read. It must have taken another holiday to write it all!
As he obviously likes the GFE, I decided to add some of my own experiences that might help others who are inspired by his reports.
Some may have been reported in earlier posts but are now 73 pages back.
On one of my earliest visits to LA Cafe, I suggested to my lady having something to eat. Apart from my own hunger, this tends to score brownie points as the girl has probably not.
Eaten for hours either. The response was " don't eat here, its too expensive. " She then took me across Del Pilar St and about halfway down the side street to a little open fronted.
Shawarma place. Reasonable food {YM or digestion MV} and much cheaper.
Other options that, later on, give the atmosphere of a "date" include Lucky 6{I think the name is right}, Calle Ocho and Cowboy Grill. All 3 are Filipino oriented night clubs, which feature.
Live bands {up to three on any one night} and not pick up places, although with some game you might be lucky.
Calle Ocho. From LAC continue past Shawarma to Mabini St. I have never been there from LAC, but I think turn left and is on right. Front portion is separated from street by low.
Wall with more tables and dance floor behind. Went there one night about 7, couple of happy hour beers {26 p or so} an unexciting curry and a few more beers for total bill of.
600 p. Waitress also warned me when beers at normal price.
Lucky 6. Turn left onto Mabini St to Lotus Garden Hotel. Turn left {right for G Point} and look up for neon sign. Entrance is easy to miss otherwise. Not sure about bands early part.
Of week. Similar prices, food to my mind better although not comparing similar meals.
Cowboy Grill. Continue past Lotus Garden and its on your left, big frontage on Mabini St. Most expensive of the lot {beers 90 p} but best bands. Videos can be found on Youtube.
Food prices probably pushing LAC but atmosphere recommended if you want to get away from the cattle market. Might also appeal as smoking restricted to specific area. You might.
However give the girl inflated ideas about how much you will pay as I suspect this is the Number 1 club in Ermita.
I hope this is of some use to somebody, as saying "why don't we go to XYX?" shows you aren't a newbie, even if you are.
Happy hunting.
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Hong Kong / Philippines diary, day 15.
Slippery, Simmer, Hutsori, FunkySexy, Shining Wit. Thanks for the compliments. They mean a lot and make all the effort worthwhile.
I forgot to mention at the end of my last report, for those who have enjoyed it my diary will be continuing on the Angeles thread.
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I thoroughly enjoy your escapades. And like many, can personally relate to what you are saying. Keepup the good work. Cheers.
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[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1704861]<SNIP. . .
I went to the toilet and there was a Filipino man handing out towels next to the sink, a pet hate of mine. Earlier in the night I'd given him a small tip but this time I walked towards the door without giving him anything. He grabbed my arm to prevent me from leaving and nodded aggressively towards the tray. I shrugged him off, gave him a glare and walked out. I'm a generous tipper but it's ridiculous that he expected me to tip every time I went to the toilet. I certainly didn't appreciate being man-handled by him.. . <SNIP>. . . . ..[/QUOTE]It's good to read another series of your chronicles of your latest trip to mongering sites Sir L but I must question this claim about the guy in LA cafe men's toilet.
I have been going to LAC (and MBC) now and again for the past 18 years and I have NEVER, EVER seen this happen.
The 2 or 3 older guys who roam around in the cafe offering shoulder massages and who periodically offer towels in the CR have been there for as long as I can remember and are the most inoffensive guys I have ever met in a bar anywhere.
For one of them to have (your quote) "grabbed my arm to prevent me from leaving and nodded aggressively towards the tray" is completely incomprehensible to me, and I simply cannot believe it happened. These guys would not last for 18 years if they started doing that sort of thing.
Newbies reading your story might feel some anxiety about visiting LAC and using the CR based on your experience.
I would reassure readers that such an aggressive scenario has NEVER even remotely happened to me in all my visits to LAC so I am certain that if it happened, SL must have done something offensive to generate such a response.
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1705447]I would reassure readers that such an aggressive scenario has NEVER even remotely happened to me in all my visits to LAC so I am certain that if it happened, SL must have done something offensive to generate such a response.[/QUOTE]Firstly thanks for your comments and glad you enjoy my diaries.
I assure you it did happen. Whenever I travel I'm meticulous about keeping notes as the night goes along so there's no way I got the wrong night or the wrong venue. I specifically remember getting back to my seat and telling Owen and Macca about it, then taking my phone out and making a note for the purpose of this diary. I guarantee everything you read in my diaries, whether good or bad, did happen and this incident happened exactly as written.
And I did not do anything to provoke his behaviour either. I went to the urinal, did my business, went to the sink, gave him a smile as I did so, washed my hands, dried them, said 'thanks' and then went to walk out (like I said, I'd tipped him earlier and didn't think it was necessary to tip on every visit). There were no conversation that could be misinterpreted or attitude on my behalf, I was smiley and polite with him, just as I always am with all bar-staff. I wasn't acting drunk either as I'd only had a few drinks. He just expected a tip and didn't get one.
I should point out that I've been to LA Cafe many times over the years and normally these guys are older guys (who offer massages like you say) and I've never had a problem with one of them. In fact they're often good fun. This guy was younger though, I'd guess mid thirties. Perhaps he was just standing in for the night or maybe he was young enough to get pissed off when he sees pretty Filipino girls all over tourists? . Perhaps he'd seen me with his favourite?
I take on board your point about stories like this making newbies anxious but I would say to them that LA Cafe is a brilliant place (as I hope my diary conveyed!) and the staff are very friendly. One negative experience doesn't change that.
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Pimpettes overload (flow).
Well using two unconnecteded pimpettes are nice but today we went into overflow as 8 girls stood waiting outside My hotel. It created inside me some sort of stress as I did doublebook t2 pimpettes girls. Damn shame on me. I was in the middle of some girlie biz when this occured so I proudly when finished walk down and paid all 6 of them 1000 each for the hick ups (not their mistake by all means), picked out the 2 most stunnings and brought them to my room for some, what I call it, playtime. Anyone?
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Dismissal fee
I have no problem with generosity. I can't see that it ruins the market, except perhaps in limited circumstances. But just for the record, you have overpaid, apparently out of embarassment. A dismissal fee for an escort, if it's not her fault (false photos, misrepresentation, etc.) should be one-third of what she exected to earn, to cover transportation. In this case, the two parties presumably shared transportation cost. P200 each would be as much as such girls could expect to earn working for a full day.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1706003]Well using two unconnecteded pimpettes are nice but today we went into overflow as 8 girls stood waiting outside My hotel. It created inside me some sort of stress as I did doublebook t2 pimpettes girls. Damn shame on me. I was in the middle of some girlie biz when this occured so I proudly when finished walk down and paid all 6 of them 1000 each for the hick ups (not their mistake by all means), picked out the 2 most stunnings and brought them to my room for some, what I call it, playtime. Anyone?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Cbea20;1706028]I have no problem with generosity. I can't see that it ruins the market, except perhaps in limited circumstances. But just for the record, you have overpaid, apparently out of embarassment. A dismissal fee for an escort, if it's not her fault (false photos, misrepresentation, etc.) should be one-third of what she exected to earn, to cover transportation. In this case, the two parties presumably shared transportation cost. P200 each would be as much as such girls could expect to earn working for a full day.[/QUOTE]Yes I am a generous prick but to their (pimpettes, both) defense they have no clue whatsoever what their service, both in sexual act and beeing only passive spectators, are worth. I just view them what I think is called for and don't want to go into detailed pricings. Phil is cheap enough place as it is so a big laugh realy. Yeah yeah I won't destroy the pimpettes pricings as this is a closed circkle. Damn you guys are realy occupied by prices, when phil prices goes upwards where are you going to stay?
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1706042]Yes I am a generous prick but to their (pimpettes, both) defense they have no clue whatsoever what their service, both in sexual act and beeing only passive spectators, are worth. I just view them what I think is called for and don't want to go into detailed pricings. Phil is cheap enough place as it is so a big laugh realy. Yeah yeah I won't destroy the pimpettes pricings as this is a closed circkle. Damn you guys are realy occupied by prices, when phil prices goes upwards where are you going to stay?[/QUOTE]I'm with Skogis here, I find the constant obsession with prices, and allegations of undermining "the market" ridiculous, as If the different of a few hundred pesos one way or the other made a substantial difference to most of the punters who post herein. The bottom line is that this is a poor, dysfunctional place and these are, for the most part, poor women to whom a few hundred pesos makes a huge difference. Most guys spend a few thousand dollars in their trips here on tickets and hotels, and I really doubt that obsessing over 10 or 20 bucks is worth the self righteous aggravation that it seems to cause among many. Lighten up!
GE.
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Furthermore, generosity may attract more women to become interested in such part time jobs. And that does seem to be what is happening when I read the posts by Sk. Keep up the good work!
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1706074]I'm with Skogis here, I find the constant obsession with prices, and allegations of undermining "the market" ridiculous, as If the different of a few hundred pesos one way or the other made a substantial difference to most of the punters who post herein. The bottom line is that this is a poor, dysfunctional place and these are, for the most part, poor women to whom a few hundred pesos makes a huge difference. Most guys spend a few thousand dollars in their trips here on tickets and hotels, and I really doubt that obsessing over 10 or 20 bucks is worth the self righteous aggravation that it seems to cause among many. Lighten up!
GE.[/QUOTE]
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Cheating the pimpette.
Beeing adviced from some fine older member here at ISG I did find myself a pimpette from a regular facebook girl. I noticed in her account she did have many smashing hot looking friends. So during a sexual act I talked her up on some biz deal and she was very pleased with our agreement (not written in stone ofcourse but a verbal sort of contract). She have no provided me with, what I suspect to be almost all of her classmates (female ones, hehe) and from the classmates I get undecent proposals as they want to go behind the pimpettes back and bring in new friends. And so it goes. The network is building sometimes to an overfload / overload and I have to put on the breakes as I have only one dick and it has allready gone dry.
I accept sometimes going behind the pimpettes back and from doing this I found a new pimpette having direct access to a studentplace for nurses. This is actually working out to well and the girls are in need of some easy cash. This is what I feast from and they have so far been very good and giving with just a few minor hickups (but I was expecting more so also this works out for the better).
They know my pricings and the pimpettes gets rewarded when they come themself (they are both stunningly pretty so I fuck them in between sometimes). It is fun how they can share dick in a big group of friends and I can not see this is happening anywhere else in the world so based on this and this only phil is a nice country.
Just got a msg from a policefriend back home telling me about a job he did earlier this weekend. It was 2 guys bringing back a prostitute to their house. They went into a fight with the prostitute as she wanted money up front. She was a russian / ukraine girl or sth. Due to the commotion some neighbours called the police. They had paid her for one hour. From my friends telling they agreed the price for 1 hour with the prosti at a total sum of, and I kid you not, 70000 piso (FOR 1 HOUR). She was not that good looking either according to my friend. I am not that pricesensetive but this is to much and I bet the guys felt they did not get any value at all, the police came and joined the "party". They both got fined 100000 piso (as prostitution is illigal in Norway). By telling this i hope people can stop complaining about prices in phils..
I might overpay sometimes but i balance this out as the girls are so nice and pop in and out whenever i want. I think they are well worth 2 to 3000 piso. I dont have an actual agreement from the pimpettes but when we fuck i give them a few thousands based out from how many girls they provided me. But to be honest i realy dont need the pimpettes help anymore as they network is blooming without their help(but i let them think they still provides me with girls, hehe). The jungletelegraph is working perfect to my likings. Tonight i will meet a proffesional girl, a beauty, according to herself she is familiar with sums up to 10000 and up for sexual play and fucking. I have met her through other connections so i slow down those crazy ammounts and let her have 3-5000(5k if anal play is ok)if the meeting works out to my liking. Happy pooning.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1706312]<SNIP>
I might overpay sometimes but i balance this out as the girls are so nice and pop in and out whenever i want. I think they are well worth 2 to 3000 piso. I dont have an actual agreement from the pimpettes but when we fuck i give them a few thousands based out from how many girls they provided me. But to be honest i realy dont need the pimpettes help anymore as they network is blooming without their help(but i let them think they still provides me with girls, hehe). The jungletelegraph is working perfect to my likings. Tonight i will meet a proffesional girl, a beauty, according to herself she is familiar with sums up to 10000 and up for sexual play and fucking. I have met her through other connections so i slow down those crazy ammounts and let her have 3-5000(5k if anal play is ok)if the meeting works out to my liking. Happy pooning.[/QUOTE]I PM'ed you Skogs but I suggest you keep on paying whatever you want.
Furthermore, I'd suggest you don't post on the board what you pay unless someone asks you.
It's nobody else's business anyway and there are plenty of other posts on most threads to keep the cheap charlies informed about what are the rock bottom prices.
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1706331]I PM'ed you Skogs but I suggest you keep on paying whatever you want.
Furthermore, I'd suggest you don't post on the board what you pay unless someone asks you.
It's nobody else's business anyway and there are plenty of other posts on most threads to keep the cheap charlies informed about what are the rock bottom prices.[/QUOTE]I saw your friendly PM and it was highly appreciated. I fully agree with you regarding the pricings. It will just stir someones mind if mentioned here as proved before. The rock bottom prices are for free isn't it? Until this day (I have been shitfaced many times so I might not remember everything, but even so) not had one lady mentioning money. But I do feel good (in a bad way) compensating them ladies with some pisos. Makes up for all my guilt as long as I am cheating my designated domestic GF big time.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1706042]Yes I am a generous prick but to their (pimpettes, both) [/QUOTE]I am not a generous prick, but 1 K is not unfair, and is reasonable, comparing the girls may have spent 200 peso or more for taxi, and even if they didn't take a taxi, 1 K will not get a big bucket in Jollybee. Let them be happy.
You may need them again.
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I like to see the prices
[QUOTE=Skogis;1706342]I saw your friendly PM and it was highly appreciated. I fully agree with you regarding the pricings. It will just stir someones mind if mentioned here as proved before. The rock bottom prices are for free isn't it? Until this day (I have been shitfaced many times so I might not remember everything, but even so) not had one lady mentioning money. But I do feel good (in a bad way) compensating them ladies with some pisos. Makes up for all my guilt as long as I am cheating my designated domestic GF big time.[/QUOTE]Who gives a shitz what the CC says or what anyone else has to say. I like to hear about it. CC don't control this board. I think the 1 k was fair and not over doing it. Could have been 1. 5 k and ok. CC don't understand that you might be sudsidizing them. Yes, subsidizing them! If a girl gets more money from one customer then she can take less from the next one. To them it is all about the total amount by the end of the month. Yes, prices drop for EOM sale to pay for their rent.
Skogis, keep it up! Posting and dicking it sir.
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Pimpette referral fees
Skogis, it is your business to cut out the pimpettes or not. But most businesses rely on referrals. I believe it is the same here. Much better to go back and renegotiate the referral fees as the pyramid grows and adds layers. Maybe the fee is reduce by half for each layer until the 4th level?
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The crazy Sunday night.
Yesterday I was "loaded like a freight train (guns' n roses)" and met this stunner down the lobby 8pm ish. Tall girl and someone I would think was working the escort market(but i dont know it is only my private thoughts as she is from the FB market in my book). Anyway as a general observation escorts have propper training in behaviours and she was the one with all the glory, as i down the lobby, was stumbling and zik zakking my way around there(playing the nice drunk bastard). Thanks God she found this in a way charming and she laughed at me. I grabbed her and we went into my room. She was the 5'th girl I met this fine Sunday.
Inside the room I have a total black out and the next thing I notice waking up this fine Monday morning was I am in bed, she is resting next to me. Be aware we did have initial plans to dig in some foods at my hotels finest restaurant(Fireplace)but i am happy we did not, hehe. Anyway, I sprint into the bathroom and on my way I see the in room safe beeing open (I have no idea why) so I get curious and check that a good cash ammount is still there along with my passport and some debet / creditcards.
After initial cr service I attend back to the stunner and ask her what happened last night. She told me I was passing out in the sofa after a few minutes and that she was confused what to do. She had escorted me into bed and my bodily inhouse system shot down. About the safe she did not know but at one point, as I was sleepwalking or sth, I was attending my safe and started to count cash. I did blame her for stealing. She did not want to leave after this accusations so she decided she stay with me until I woke up so she could prove she was genuine and did not steal.
We fucked and she left with some compensations. What a night and don't drink to much guys.
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[QUOTE=Dg8787;1706718]Skogis, it is your business to cut out the pimpettes or not. But most businesses rely on referrals. I believe it is the same here. Much better to go back and renegotiate the referral fees as the pyramid grows and adds layers. Maybe the fee is reduce by half for each layer until the 4th level?[/QUOTE]For my business plan, I do have a few pimpettes, some of the pimpettes are either with a lousy attitude or beyond reasoning, when they ask me to pay a commission for bringing a girl.
With them logic fails.
And when I refer a friend, some of the pimpette tell the guy the 'agent' need to be paid a fee - 2000 upwards, and once, one had the cheek to ask a friend 10 k for her school fee.
I told her, she must stop asking for a fee from the client, and take from her friend, if she needs money. Doesn't work.
We all have been in Philippines enough of time, to know, to argue and tell this kind of differently wired girls what they are trying to do is wrong. Will never work.
So best option is to get the contact of her 'wards' and get them to source.
Sometimes hit, sometimes fail, but for the convenience of room delivery, why bother?
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[QUOTE=EconoTech;1706755]For my business plan, I do have a few pimpettes, some of the pimpettes are either with a lousy attitude or beyond reasoning, when they ask me to pay a commission for bringing a girl.
With them logic fails.
And when I refer a friend, some of the pimpette tell the guy the 'agent' need to be paid a fee - 2000 upwards, and once, one had the cheek to ask a friend 10 k for her school fee.
I told her, she must stop asking for a fee from the client, and take from her friend, if she needs money. Doesn't work.
We all have been in Philippines enough of time, to know, to argue and tell this kind of differently wired girls what they are trying to do is wrong. Will never work.
So best option is to get the contact of her 'wards' and get them to source.
Sometimes hit, sometimes fail, but for the convenience of room delivery, why bother?[/QUOTE]This is interesting read but not at all how my pimpettes work. Actually the 2 of them don't know they act like pimpettes. They just seem fine sharing their classmates with me. The only hazzle I get from them sometimes is the regular pinay questions "we are hungry", "do you have foods", "do have small fee my friend, she does not play", etc etc. It is easy to handle as my answer everytime is NO (well it does not fit for the hint "we are hungry" but still).
They have no idea what is common rates for pimpettes service, I am sure I could paid like 500 pisos for the girls and the pimpettes service but I don't exploit this delicate situation at all as I know I am wrongdoing so I cover them up nicely moneywice.
Based on RK writings I agrees with him that prices is enough debatated here so we rest this issue and pay whatever we like. Atleast my crew of girls have no clue what's their pussy is worth so I just give them a fair fee (like 15 min work in my case).
Happy pooning.
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Pay
Whatever is whatever and I don't make the rules. But, remember that the average worker makes 466 peso per 8 hour day in Makati (highest minimum wage in Philippines). So for a girl to fuck for a hour and get 1 to 2,000 p is pretty dam good (plus food and probably quite a few drinks).
I hire educated collage grads at 12,5000 per month and they work 6 days a week. That, s about 520 php a day roughly. Opening your legs starts to look like a pretty good way to make money.
Anyways I typically pay php 2 K for a girl- never let them stay because I want them out after were done fucking. I pay them bitches to leave not for pussy. Pussy is free if you want it, but it comes along with these crazy Pinas wanting to hang on your 24/7.
I would rather pay and kick them out.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1706312]Beeing adviced from some fine older member here at ISG I did find myself a pimpette from a regular facebook girl. I noticed in her account she did have many smashing hot looking friends. So during a sexual act I talked her up on some biz deal and she was very pleased with our agreement (not written in stone ofcourse but a verbal sort of contract). She have no provided me with, what I suspect to be almost all of her classmates (female ones, hehe) and from the classmates I get undecent proposals as they want to go behind the pimpettes back and bring in new friends. And so it goes. The network is building sometimes to an overfload / overload and I have to put on the breakes as I have only one dick and it has allready gone dry.
I accept sometimes going behind the pimpettes back and from doing this I found a new pimpette having direct access to a studentplace for nurses. This is actually working out to well and the girls are in need of some easy cash. This is what I feast from and they have so far been very good and giving with just a few minor hickups (but I was expecting more so also this works out for the better).
They know my pricings and the pimpettes gets rewarded when they come themself (they are both stunningly pretty so I fuck them in between sometimes). It is fun how they can share dick in a big group of friends and I can not see this is happening anywhere else in the world so based on this and this only phil is a nice country.
Just got a msg from a policefriend back home telling me about a job he did earlier this weekend. It was 2 guys bringing back a prostitute to their house. They went into a fight with the prostitute as she wanted money up front. She was a russian / ukraine girl or sth. Due to the commotion some neighbours called the police. They had paid her for one hour. From my friends telling they agreed the price for 1 hour with the prosti at a total sum of, and I kid you not, 70000 piso (FOR 1 HOUR). She was not that good looking either according to my friend. I am not that pricesensetive but this is to much and I bet the guys felt they did not get any value at all, the police came and joined the "party". They both got fined 100000 piso (as prostitution is illigal in Norway). By telling this i hope people can stop complaining about prices in phils..
I might overpay sometimes but i balance this out as the girls are so nice and pop in and out whenever i want. I think they are well worth 2 to 3000 piso. I dont have an actual agreement from the pimpettes but when we fuck i give them a few thousands based out from how many girls they provided me. But to be honest i realy dont need the pimpettes help anymore as they network is blooming without their help(but i let them think they still provides me with girls, hehe). The jungletelegraph is working perfect to my likings. Tonight i will meet a proffesional girl, a beauty, according to herself she is familiar with sums up to 10000 and up for sexual play and fucking. I have met her through other connections so i slow down those crazy ammounts and let her have 3-5000(5k if anal play is ok)if the meeting works out to my liking. Happy pooning.[/QUOTE]I don't even have to go the bars anymore. Once you get hooked into a few on FB your banging all their friends for sure! You just friend request their friends or vice-versa. Soon you have such a stable to pick from its crazy. I'm banging them and they bring two friends along for a four-some and so on. But, if you don't live here that's pretty much out. Its hard to develop that unless you are here. 98% of these girls have no love for where they work, actually they usually hate it because they get so taking advantage of. The are so happy to develop some clients on their own for them and their friends.
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I agree there is way to much "over concern" about the market price here. It usually comes for the cheap pricks who are complaining when they pay 2 p for bread. I was sitting in a bar a bit off Burgous and a white guy (Aussie) walks in and checks out the menu. I overhear the prick say to the waitress the beer here is 20 P more then at a shithole about 6 blocks away, I am going to go there. He acts so tough about it and walks out. W all look at each other and laugh at this cheap as fuck guy! He is a white guy arguing about 20 p per beer. WTF? How fucking cheap are you!
Anyways, I pay what the fuck I want to and everybody else can suck a dick! The only thing I will complain about is bar fines, that's straight bullshit as the bar is already ripping you off, ripping the girl off and then want to get a big bar fine on top of it.
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Ya, barfines are bullshit. Just get the chick's digits and have her come over before or after work. I almost never pay bar fines unless I must have her immediately.
[QUOTE=OneIpole;1707037]I agree there is way to much "over concern" about the market price here. It usually comes for the cheap pricks who are complaining when they pay 2 p for bread. I was sitting in a bar a bit off Burgous and a white guy (Aussie) walks in and checks out the menu. I overhear the prick say to the waitress the beer here is 20 P more then at a shithole about 6 blocks away, I am going to go there. He acts so tough about it and walks out. W all look at each other and laugh at this cheap as fuck guy! He is a white guy arguing about 20 p per beer. WTF? How fucking cheap are you!
Anyways, I pay what the fuck I want to and everybody else can suck a dick! The only thing I will complain about is bar fines, that's straight bullshit as the bar is already ripping you off, ripping the girl off and then want to get a big bar fine on top of it.[/QUOTE].
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[QUOTE=OneIpole;1707037]I overhear the prick say to the waitress the beer here is 20 P more then at a shithole about 6 blocks away, I am going to go there. He acts so tough about it and walks out. W all look at each other and laugh at this cheap as fuck guy! He is a white guy arguing about 20 p per beer. WTF? How fucking cheap are you!
Anyways, I pay what the fuck I want to and everybody else can suck a dick![/QUOTE]On one hand I agree, if the guy didn't like the prices then he should've kept his mouth shut and just left; pointless arguing with the waitresses anyhow as they don't set the prices and it's not like she's going to run to the owner to tell him they just lost a customer cause the beer prices too high, she was probably happy he left so she can return to playing games on her phone, lol.
OTH, we all need to keep in mind that there's many guys who live in the PI's who are on fixed gov pensions (and not all of them are old, plenty of young disabled vets) and need to be cheap out of necessity. If all you have is p35-50 K per month as an income then you tend to shop for the best values.
One I, don't take my post the wrong way, I'm not condemning you for yours, just trying to remind guys who read this board that not every foreigner you see is a "rich tourist". And, when comes to the girls, I fully agree with you that you should pay what you want and everyone else can take a flying leap. As long as you treat the girls well and they are happy with what you give them, then everyone else can fuck off.
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[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1707098]On one hand I agree, if the guy didn't like the prices then he should've kept his mouth shut and just left; pointless arguing with the waitresses anyhow as they don't set the prices and it's not like she's going to run to the owner to tell him they just lost a customer cause the beer prices too high, she was probably happy he left so she can return to playing games on her phone, lol.
OTH, we all need to keep in mind that there's many guys who live in the PI's who are on fixed gov pensions (and not all of them are old, plenty of young disabled vets) and need to be cheap out of necessity. If all you have is p35-50 K per month as an income then you tend to shop for the best values.
One I, don't take my post the wrong way, I'm not condemning you for yours, just trying to remind guys who read this board that not every foreigner you see is a "rich tourist". And, when comes to the girls, I fully agree with you that you should pay what you want and everyone else can take a flying leap. As long as you treat the girls well and they are happy with what you give them, then everyone else can fuck off.[/QUOTE]I agree overall with your comments, but I will add that too many guys try to live the dream (living in the Philippines) without the means needed to truly enjoy the life and they tend to dislike "two week millionaires".
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[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1707098]On one hand I agree, if the guy didn't like the prices then he should've kept his mouth shut and just left; pointless arguing with the waitresses anyhow... If all you have is p35-50 K per month as an income then you tend to shop for the best values.
[/QUOTE]A person on a low fixed income then needs to figure out how to live on his budget. To economise eat at home, for example. Burgos is quite well known as being one of the most expensive areas to party. Either stay away or limit the visits. At the Arab place in Burgos I had a chat with an retired Yank who mentioned he was living on his government pension of less than $1 k per month. All he did was whinge about the price of things and how George Bush was responsible for his p!ss-poor pension; I suspect his story was to elicit sympathy and an offer by me to buy him a drink. In Malate several times I've had foreigners join my table and they're shameless moochers; you buy a bucket of beers and over the course of the night they never order a round. More than happy to drink on someone else's chit. There's a lot of these clowns around.
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5 days on Makati
Hello,
First I really like to thank all the members for such a helpful information.
I will be visiting Makati for the first time. My daily budget for fun around 20 k. I want to have the maximum fun my budget can buy. Any advice?
PM if you like.
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I live a nice 40 sq. Meter one bedroom condo overlooking the bay and eat well. Most of the time, my hot and sweet little 21 year old girlfriend is here, sometimes she isn't. I do this on social security (I took it early), a very small second pension and a part-time job through the USA. By no means do I have the type of retirement that some others have, but I live quite comfortably and happily, and it's a better retirement than I could ever dream of in USA. I don't even consider my job work. It keeps my brain exercised, keeps me updated on my profession, and it pays for all of the food in the house along with the utilities. It also provides funds for if and when I go out for awhile.
I live in Malate. No Huts, that wasn't me mooching beers. I only drink top shelf vodka. Other than some a $$holes on the street that you'll find anywhere, it's perfectly safe, although I couldn't tell you about late at night since I'm pleasantly tucked into dreamland. The building I'm in is so safe that many families are in it. I've never seen or heard of an incident involving any criminal activity either inside or within 200 meters of the front door.
Yes, I don't have the retirement that some guys have, but when I was working, I didn't have the income that Bill Gates has either. If you play your cards right on what you have to work with though a very pleasant little retirement life can be had. Sure, my girlfriend is an expense, but a pleasant one. She asks for very little, and I make sure she sends 1,000 to mamma in Negros frequently. That's less than the price of a night out, and out of choice rather than necessity, the nights out are fewer and farther between. In 20/20 hindsight, I wish I'd have done this sooner.
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I live a nice 40 sq. Meter one bedroom condo overlooking the bay and eat well. Most of the time, my hot and sweet little 21 year old girlfriend is here, sometimes she isn't. I do this on social security (I took it early), a very small second pension and a part-time job through the USA. By no means do I have the type of retirement that some others have, but I live quite comfortably and happily, and it's a better retirement than I could ever dream of in USA. I don't even consider my job work. It keeps my brain exercised, keeps me updated on my profession, and it pays for all of the food in the house along with the utilities.
I live in Malate. No Huts, that wasn't me mooching beers. I only drink top shelf vodka. Other than some a $$holes on the street that you'll find anywhere, it's perfectly safe, although I couldn't tell you about late at night since I'm pleasantly tucked into dreamland. The building I'm in is so safe that many families are in it. I've never seen or heard of an incident involving any criminal activity either inside or within 200 meters of the front door.
Yes, I don't have the retirement that some guys have, but when I was working, I didn't have the income that Bill Gates has either. If you play your cards right on what you have to work with though a very pleasant little retirement life can be had. Sure, my girlfriend is an expense, but a pleasant one. She asks for very little, and I make sure she sends 1,000 to mamma in Negros frequently. That's less than the price of a night out, and out of choice rather than necessity, the nights out are fewer and farther between. In 20/20 hindsight, I wish I'd have done this sooner.
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Sorry about the double post. Don't know how it happened, and I can't seem to delete it through the editing feature.
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[QUOTE=Moh1986;1707565]Hello,
First I really like to thank all the members for such a helpful information.
I will be visiting Makati for the first time. My daily budget for fun around 20 k. I want to have the maximum fun my budget can buy. Any advice?
PM if you like.[/QUOTE]Hmm, fun is all relative to each individual. Might be better if you lay out some details on things you like first.
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[QUOTE=Moh1986;1707565]
Hello,
First I really like to thank all the members for such a helpful information.
I will be visiting Makati for the first time. My daily budget for fun around 20 k. I want to have the maximum fun my budget can buy. Any advice?
[/QUOTE]Welcome. You have plenty of money. Define "fun" if it's different from what's available in Makati, e.g. Burgos and Havana, and discussed all the time here. If your idea of fun is the same as what's discussed in the Makati thread (you posted your question in the Manila thread) then you already have your answer. If you have have specific questions such as "Can I meet 10 girls a day?" or "Are 3-ways available?" or "Can I hook up with a starlet?" then the community can offer advice. Good questions get better answers.
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[QUOTE=Slippery;1707609]I live in Malate. No Huts, that wasn't me mooching beers. I only drink top shelf vodka.[/QUOTE]Top shelf... too posh for me. I can drink that. You inviting me over? ;) It amazes me how inexpensive booze is.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1707609]Yes, I don't have the retirement that some guys have, but when I was working, I didn't have the income that Bill Gates has either. If you play your cards right on what you have to work with though a very pleasant little retirement life can be had. Sure, my girlfriend is an expense, but a pleasant one. She asks for very little, and I make sure she sends 1,000 to mamma in Negros frequently. That's less than the price of a night out, and out of choice rather than necessity, the nights out are fewer and farther between. In 20/20 hindsight, I wish I'd have done this sooner.[/QUOTE]Good comment, especially the last sentence. If it isn't too intrusive what's your monthly budget? I posted mine a short while ago, [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2902-Philippine-Residency-and-or-Permanent-Visa&p=1696578#post1696578[/url]. Are you about the same, higher, or lower?
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1707814]Welcome. You have plenty of money. Define "fun" if it's different from what's available in Makati, e.g. Burgos and Havana, and discussed all the time here. If your idea of fun is the same as what's discussed in the Makati thread (you posted your question in the Manila thread) then you already have your answer. If you have have specific questions such as "Can I meet 10 girls a day?" or "Are 3-ways available?" or "Can I hook up with a starlet?" then the community can offer advice. Good questions get better answers.[/QUOTE]Where is the best place to get drunk?
Should I spend my time looking for freelancers or bargirls?
Any professional strip club?
Is MBC worth to visit?
Any nightclub busy on weekdays?
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The answer to all your questions is "yes".
[QUOTE=Moh1986;1707820]Where is the best place to get drunk?
Should I spend my time looking for freelancers or bargirls?
Any professional strip club?
Is MBC worth to visit?
Any nightclub busy on weekdays?[/QUOTE].
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[QUOTE=DCups;1707910]The answer to all your questions is "yes".
.[/QUOTE]Actually, the answer to whether MBC is worth visiting is, "I challenge you to find it."
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[QUOTE=Moh1986;1707820]Where is the best place to get drunk?
Should I spend my time looking for freelancers or bargirls?
Any professional strip club?
Is MBC worth to visit?
Any nightclub busy on weekdays?[/QUOTE]I think Burgos is your best bet. Plenty of places to get drunk; if one isn't working for you walk next door and maybe it's better. Though none are strip clubs you can entice a girl to give you a bit of show. You can find a few freelancers walking the street or hanging out in the Bellagio Hotel's resto bar on the ground floor. From Burgos it's a short taxi ride to Havana where there are many more FLs. The advantage of FL is no barfine, but you have p20k a day, so barfines shouldn't cause you any undue concern. Yes, nightclubs can be busy, more so if the weeknight is a payday, typically the 15th and 30th. There are a few nightclubs near Burgos such as Time and 71 Gramercy. LA Cafe is a legendary place, so yes it's worth a visit, but it's hit and miss, mostly miss, for young, attractive women. From Makati I wouldn't commute there any earlier than 10 pm on a weekday... traffic.
There a dozens if not hundreds of FRs for all the places I mentioned.
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[QUOTE=Makeupaname;1633659]Simple answer: don't use your real name, especially not surname / family name.
More details:
To open a facebook page all you need is a valid email address.
So go some place an create a new email. (yahoo, gmail, etc.) don't use any real information when creating the new email.
When registering / opening the new facebook , do not use a nickname or handle that you use elsewhere. example my first ISG name was something like QwertyTommy (not the name I used), and I used that name for email, facebook, ym, etc.. if someone googled the name QwertyTommy, they could quickly gather a lot of info about me.
Once the new facebook is created, do not befriend any real life friends, relatives, coworkers, or non-mongers on this account.
Do not use photos that are used elsewhere, search engines can now find duplicates photos from multiple web sites.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1633663]I believe both yahoo and gmail require a (mobile) phone number to be provided when creating an account nowadays.[/QUOTE]My above reply was to someone asking about fake facebook accounts. Update. I needed to create a new facebook yesterday, so first step was getting a new fake email. True, Yahoo did require a mobile number, but there was no verification of the mobile number, and no sms.
Result new email account, and new facebook in about 5 minutes.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1707995]I think Burgos is your best bet. Plenty of places to get drunk; if one isn't working for you walk next door and maybe it's better. Though none are strip clubs you can entice a girl to give you a bit of show. You can find a few freelancers walking the street or hanging out in the Bellagio Hotel's resto bar on the ground floor. From Burgos it's a short taxi ride to Havana where there are many more FLs. The advantage of FL is no barfine, but you have p20k a day, so barfines shouldn't cause you any undue concern. Yes, nightclubs can be busy, more so if the weeknight is a payday, typically the 15th and 30th. There are a few nightclubs near Burgos such as Time and 71 Gramercy. LA Cafe is a legendary place, so yes it's worth a visit, but it's hit and miss, mostly miss, for young, attractive women. From Makati I wouldn't commute there any earlier than 10 pm on a weekday... traffic.
There a dozens if not hundreds of FRs for all the places I mentioned.[/QUOTE]Hutsori is that a typo? 20 k a day?
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[QUOTE=Moh1986;1707820]Where is the best place to get drunk?
Should I spend my time looking for freelancers or bargirls?
Any professional strip club?
Is MBC worth to visit?
Any nightclub busy on weekdays?[/QUOTE]Just a little bit of advice (although I have broken this rule several times): you should pass on getting drunk when you visit here. Seems like you are a 1st timer and doesn't sound like you are going with a group of friends, so you should keep your brain functions on. It is a foreign country and you have to make sure you don't do anything stupid or wander into a bad situation.
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[QUOTE=Random99;1708183]Just a little bit of advice (although I have broken this rule several times): you should pass on getting drunk when you visit here. Seems like you are a 1st timer and doesn't sound like you are going with a group of friends, so you should keep your brain functions on. It is a foreign country and you have to make sure you don't do anything stupid or wander into a bad situation.[/QUOTE]Yes am going alone.
I will try my best not to get drunk.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Moh1986;1708386]Yes am going alone.
I will try my best not to get drunk.
Thanks[/QUOTE]I sent you a PM.
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[QUOTE=WaitWutwtflol;1708128]Hutsori is that a typo? 20 k a day?[/QUOTE]That is NOT a typo. The poster of the question stated he (not me) has a budget of p20k per day. To me it seems quite high; that being said, a person could spend that amount in Burgos by purchasing many p350 lady drinks, paying two barfines at approx. P3500 each, and paying each girl p4000. Add transport, meals, and other incidentals and viola... p20k has been spent. Amazing.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1708574]That is NOT a typo. The poster of the question stated he (not me) has a budget of p20k per day. To me it seems quite high; that being said, a person could spend that amount in Burgos by purchasing many p350 lady drinks, paying two barfines at approx. P3500 each, and paying each girl p4000. Add transport, meals, and other incidentals and viola... p20k has been spent. Amazing.[/QUOTE]Hey Hutsori,
Try for reply. I guess I am sort of lucky as I was born in Manila and still 90% fluent in reading / writing so ill hit up Burgos if anything fails but doubt I'll spend 20 k a day LOL. Hoping to chat some non pros on the Pacquiao fight week.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1708574]That is NOT a typo. The poster of the question stated he (not me) has a budget of p20k per day. To me it seems quite high; that being said, a person could spend that amount in Burgos by purchasing many p350 lady drinks, paying two barfines at approx. P3500 each, and paying each girl p4000. Add transport, meals, and other incidentals and viola... p20k has been spent. Amazing.[/QUOTE]Huts is right.
It's very easy to spend 20 k in Burgos or is EDSA IEC. Several times I have been with visiting businessmen who have asked me to "escort" them to the bars and they have spent 20 k on drinks alone. One guy spent more than 30k in the EDSA Complex on drinks. I have been with other punters who have bought 2 or 3 bottles of (Chivas, Johnnie W, Jack D) plus the mixers for the group and the budget soon blows up. It is the well-heeled punters who keep the bars afloat - not the small budget punters who follow happy hours and who skimp and save on girls' drinks etc. These guys usually use the VIP rooms upstairs (that not everybody knows about), and they are joined by the best-looking b/g's too.
Not long after I arrived here (back around 1999), I lost track of what I was doing one night (it was in Jungle Room) and I ended up with a 16 k bill. Luckily the bar took credit cards.
20 K is easy if you are not "careful".
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If I'm spending 20 K I better be getting laid by six different stunners with a six pack of san migs in between.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;1708603]Huts is right.
It's very easy to spend 20 k in Burgos or is EDSA IEC. [/QUOTE].
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1708574]The poster of the question stated he (not me) has a budget of p20k per day. To me it seems quite high.[/QUOTE]Seems high to me too. The US State Department's maximum allowable lodging expense for Manila is $179 per night and $121 for meals and incidental expenses. That's a total of $300, and the poster implied that the 20 K PhP was for expenses, not lodging. 20 K PhP is about $465. If I recall correctly, the Internal Revenue Service uses the State Department guidelines as the basis for its allowable business expense writeoff against income taxes. It is hard to believe that many employers provide much more than the IRS threshold. Two possible alternative explanations: 1. The poster's work is reimbursing him for entertainment expenses, that is, for schmoozing potential customers in Manila, or 2. He has deep personal pockets and is allowing himself this amount for expenses. It is easy to understand that a person could spend $465 in a day in Manila, but it is difficult to imagine any employer reimbursing this amount.
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[QUOTE=SkipKost;1708679]It is easy to understand that a person could spend $465 in a day in Manila, but it is difficult to imagine any employer reimbursing this amount.[/QUOTE]You need a more understanding and generous employer. Or work for an Olympic Games Organising Committee. ;)
I don't recall the OP saying he'd be using an expense account. I understood his budget to be of his own funds. I could be wrong.
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[QUOTE=DCups;1708626]If I'm spending 20 K I better be getting laid by six different stunners with a six pack of san migs in between.
.[/QUOTE]Assuming you're doing them consecutively and not concurrently the biggest challenge to completing that successfully as a 1-day task is neither beer nor money nor willing and available women. It's time management and how far her tardiness knocks you off track. Do so on Sunday. No traffic.
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Php 20 k a day
I am visiting Manila for personal reason. I been working my ass more than 2 years without vacation, 20 k a day in my situation is totally OK.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1708701]Assuming you're doing them consecutively and not concurrently the biggest challenge to completing that successfully as a 1-day task is neither beer nor money nor willing and available women. It's time management and how far her tardiness knocks you off track. Do so on Sunday. No traffic.[/QUOTE]Hi Huts, the operative word was "if". More likely I would spread that between two or three days and lots more san migs. Cheers, mate.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer69;1694800]If anybody needs a car service, I used a really nice professional guy P2,000 for 8 hours. Best P2,000 I ever paid. Well maybe not the best. PM me for info.[/QUOTE]I don't have a subscription as I don't handle my credit card bills. If you know what I mean.
So I'm not able to PM you.
If you're able to share your contact publicly I would appreciate it.
Will be back in Phils in 2 weeks. Been too long since first visit. Will report any intel.
Thank you
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[QUOTE=RickNWill;1709532]I don't have a subscription as I don't handle my credit card bills. If you know what I mean.
So I'm not able to PM you.[/QUOTE]Don't let that stop you. You can join by paying cash (if you don't mind dropping a $20 in an envelope and mailing it). Go to the bottom of any page and click the 'Contact Us' link. On the next page in the 'Report' area, tell Jackson you want to pay cash. He will send you a link with instructions where you can send your donation.
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[QUOTE=Moh1986;1708735]I am visiting Manila for personal reason. I been working my ass more than 2 years without vacation, 20 k a day in my situation is totally OK.[/QUOTE]Honestly with that kind of budget, you should be going to Germany or Rio and getting some non-asian pussy. White and latina women there know how to treat a man but it just coat more.
People are going to Philippines for the value factor.
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[QUOTE=VIPhawaii;1709727]Honestly with that kind of budget, you should be going to Germany or Rio and getting some non-asian pussy. White and latina women there know how to treat a man but it just coat more.
People are going to Philippines for the value factor.[/QUOTE]I agree with the Rio reference, in my case since I have limited Portuguese I just can't get that GFE experience. I am 90% fluent in Tagalog so its more sensual for me with pinays. You guys who understand Tagalog know what I am talking about when you whisper vulgar words to your lady while making love hehe.
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To the Manila vets here, what's the best mode of transportation from Makati to SM Fairview in Quezon? I might have to take a metered taxi as I don't know the ways around even though I am semi fluent in Tagalog.
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[QUOTE=WaitWutwtflol;1709844]To the Manila vets here, what's the best mode of transportation from Makati to SM Fairview in Quezon? I might have to take a metered taxi as I don't know the ways around even though I am semi fluent in Tagalog.[/QUOTE]Try Uber. It will likely be cheaper and almost certainly cleaner and more pleasant than a taxi.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1709889]Try Uber. It will likely be cheaper and almost certainly cleaner and more pleasant than a taxi.[/QUOTE]Hey,
Thanks brother, appreciate the help.
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Tagalog In The Bed
[QUOTE=WaitWutwtflol;1709831]I agree with the Rio reference, in my case since I have limited Portuguese I just can't get that GFE experience. I am 90% fluent in Tagalog so its more sensual for me with pinays. You guys who understand Tagalog know what I am talking about when you whisper vulgar words to your lady while making love hehe.[/QUOTE]Can you clue me in on a few juicy words? I am fully entrenched in the Visayas where the dialect is much different.
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[QUOTE=BukoMax;1710073]Can you clue me in on a few juicy words? I am fully entrenched in the Visayas where the dialect is much different.[/QUOTE]Sure man, "basang basa ka babe, dilaan ko yan" always drives them crazy hehe.
"you're so wet, I'm going to lick it".
Theres so much more hehe, foreigners who pick up visayan dialect always intrigues me as its not easy for a typical person from manila to understand it let alone most foreigners.
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Hong Kong / Philippines diary, day 24
Day 24, Manila (This diary continues from the Angeles thread).
Last night Scarlet promised me 'round 2' in the morning and she didn't disappoint. Sex was her was great, I'd miss this girl.
As I packed she told me that if a customer bar-fines a girl for three nights in a row, Crystal Palace awards her the next day off (presumably it's a sweetener to encourage multiple bar-fines). I told her that I was packing to return to Manila. I gave her a generous tip and told her it had been a pleasure to meet her. It's always sad waving goodbye to a girl you've grown to like in a short space of time, knowing you'll probably never see her again. The life of a monger.
I finished packing, checked out and took a trike to Dao Bus Terminal. There are various bus companies that run regular services (5 Star, Victory Liner, Philippine Rabbit) and I jumped on to the first I saw with 'Manila' on the front. My ticket cost 114 pesos. The bus was crowded and nearly ready to go. I carefully lifted my luggage in front of me and walked down the aisle towards a spare seat at the back, only to trip over a big cardboard box that an old woman had left in the walkway. It's fair to say that sometimes you meet people on your travels who aren't blessed with a great deal of common sense. I pulled myself to my feet but incredibly she didn't apologise, instead she looked at me as if to say 'how dare you kick my box'.
The bus pulled away from the depot at 1 pm and as we sped South along the North Luzon Expressway I felt three things. Firstly I felt better. The fever I had was now completely gone, largely thanks to those magic green tablets I bought at the pharmacy. Secondly I felt sad to leave Angeles behind. I'd met some truly fabulous girls and knew for certain I'd return again soon. And thirdly I felt excited to go to Manila. I had 24 hours at my disposal and suddenly I started to formulate a plan. Last night I waved the white flag when it came to reaching my target of 20 girls for the trip (I had fucked 16 so far) but it would be unthinkable to fail in Philippines of all places. A year ago in Pattaya I needed to fuck three girls on my final day to reach my target of 20, so surely I could manage four girls in 24 hours?
One thing is for sure, if I didn't reach 20, I'd certainly have fun trying!
My mind started racing with ideas. I would be spending the night with Jonalyn, the girl I met earlier in the trip, but I could easily manage two quick short-times from LA Cafe before our 8 pm meeting time. The day after I would be leaving for the airport at 2 pm so could sneak a quick short-time in before I left. That would take my tally up to 19 girls. Then when I arrived in Hong Kong I would have five hours until my flight to England, so could quickly take a train in to the city and fuck a girl from one of the 141 apartments blocks. It sounded stressful and rushed but four girls was possible. My adrenaline started pumping. I love a challenge.
The bus company I had chosen was based in Pasay near the airport (Ermita buses from Angeles are infrequent). We arrived in Manila and hit heavy traffic. I had expected the journey to last two hours but it had taken three. As we crawled along I told the young conductor that I needed to get to Ermita and he said "okay" and walked back to the front of the bus. We continued to edge our way forward when suddenly he shouted me and directed me towards a silver and yellow jeepney that was sat at the side of the road. I thanked him, jumped out of the bus and in to the back of the jeepney. The fare was 12 pesos and 15 minutes later I was in familiar surroundings on Mabini Street.
I checked in to my room at Citystate Tower at 4. 30 pm. I had hoped to be at my hotel by 3 pm but it was my own fault for choosing a Pasay bus. Not to worry, it was still possible to fuck two girls before my date with Jonalyn later. I quickly unpacked, showered and got changed in some semi-respectable clothes and walked the short distance to LA Cafe.
Downstairs was busy with eager freelancers. I did a quick circuit of the bar but wasn't impressed with the talent. It was mainly older girls, not my type at all. The best looking girl was the lovely young waitress with red hair who served me my bottle of San Miguel (95 pesos). I found a free table next to the stairs and waited. I didn't have a lot of time to play with but girls come and go regularly at this time of day. I sipped my beer and an average looker sat next to me, probably mid-30's and asked "where you from?" I never blame a girl for trying but today I was on a strict time schedule and couldn't waste it having small-talk with a girl I didn't intend on fucking. I told her "I wait for friends" but felt guilty at my abruptness so gave her 50 pesos and said "tip for you". I'm not sure what she thought the tip was for but she smiled and left me alone.
When you are on your own in LA Cafe, it doesn't last long. Two other girls walked over and sat down on free stools next to me. One of them was fairly young but had an average face and the other was a mature woman with a voluptuous figure. She was wearing a low cut top that strategically showed off her assets and it worked, I wanted to bury my face in to them. The girls weren't my type though, so before they had chance to speak I stood up and walked to the opposite side of the bar near the pool tables.
I noticed two pretty girls stood nearby, a blond and a brunette. They were both wearing figure-hugging T-shirts and both had fantastic figures. Wow. I smiled and they smiled back, so I waved them over. The pulled up two stools and told me that they were sisters. Sometimes girls just say this to make them more appealing to potential customers but in this case I think it was true because they had the exact same smile. The blond, Anna, was 24 and the perhaps the prettier of the two with a face like an Asian Billie Piper (British actress) but her sister Rose, older by one year, had a silly personality and did most of the talking. "You like threesome?" she asked. I almost coughed up my San Mig. Here I was wanting to cram in as many girls as possible in to my final 24 hours in Philippines and a threesome with two pretty girls had practically fallen in to my lap. It was my lucky day.
Their opening gambit was 2500 pesos each. I didn't want to pay too much but I also didn't want to miss this golden opportunity so I countered with 2000 pesos which I felt was a fair price given the quality of the girls. They were also the prettiest girls in the bar by a million miles and would just go to find another customer if I tried to haggle them down too much. Thankfully they accepted and the three of us walked back to my hotel. The time was 6 pm.
Normally I don't feel the 'walk of shame' these days but I must admit it did feel awkward walking past three security guards outside and then through the busy hotel lobby. I felt a lot of eyes on me and my sexy companions and felt relieved when we stepped in to the lift and the doors closed (I was also relieved because last year I took two girls back to my hotel in Yangon, Burma, and got charged $50 US extra because my 'double room' was for a maximum of two. No such problems today).
We showered and their naked bodies were a sight to behold. They were both slim and sexy and both had a fantastic pair of tits, a good size and firm too. I was already hard just looking at them. They sat either side of me on the bed and chatted in Tagalog across me for a few minutes (as if having a fully erect westerner lying between them was the most normal thing in the world!) . I wondered what they were talking about. The blond one then began to give me a blowjob. Amusingly she surfaced for air and said to me "some men smell like dog, you smell like strawberries!" Haha. As she sucked the other girl sat on my face and I ate her pussy. I love the view when a girl sits on you, looking up at her body writhing each time I stuck my tongue as far in to her pussy as I could. She had a spectacular body and her nipples were erect. Somewhere down below I could hear muffled mmm's and slurping.
I couldn't wait any longer and said "we fuck". Anna put a condom on to me and Rose lowered herself on. She was surprisingly tight. Amusingly the pair of them thought that this was a good time to have a lengthy conversation in Tagalog again. I thought they'd forgotten I was there. Eventually Rose began rocking her hips and riding me as Anna lay next to me and we kissed. I've had eight threesomes before, including girls from Eden's in Bangkok, Devils Den in Pattaya, LE Cyrcee in Phnom Penh and Hotel Travel in Jakarta, but for some reason this one felt naughtier and nicer. Perhaps it was the sister thing.
Of the two girls Anna was the one I wanted to fuck most, so after about ten minutes of lying back and feeling the luckiest guy in Philippines, I pulled out of one sister and entered the other. I fucked Anna in mish with her ankles on my shoulders and then flipped her on to her side and she curled up like a baby as I spooned her from behind. If you get the angle right you can get really deep and she groaned loudly each time I pushed all the way in to her. If you're going to have a threesome you may as well try to make it as interactive as possible, so I took the condom off and Anna gave me a blowjob as I fingered her sister. After a few minutes the girls swapped and Rose gave me a fast hand-job, my dick lubed up with her sisters spit. The girls laughed as I shot three big jets of come up my chest.
All three of us showered and they chatted in Tagalog as we got changed. Occasionally they both looked towards me and giggled and I felt self-conscious as a result. But Anna explained "we say you are our first customer". Girls often use this line but in this instance I didn't see any reason for them to lie as I'd already fucked them. I paid them and gave them a decent tip each. It had been one of the standout experiences of the trip.
My tally was now up to 18 girls but the time was 7 pm and I had arranged to meet Jonalyn at 8 pm. Did I have time to fit in another girl?
I walked quickly to LA Cafe and the ultra-cute young red-head who served me earlier recognised me and said "you're back!" She had seen me leave earlier with two girls and now she saw me scouting the same bar again! I scanned around the bar and lots of girls returned my glance with a smile. I needed a quick turnaround. It was a case of double jeopardy because I didn't want to see the girls I'd just fucked and I didn't want to see Jonalyn either, who I had a date with in less than an hour. It was conceivable that any of them could walk up to me at any moment and scupper my chances of fucking another girl.
There were probably 50 available girls but the selection was uninspiring. I was surprised as usually there are some good lookers after 7 pm. Then I noticed Anna and Rose walk in, the sexy girls I'd just fucked. I didn't have time to talk to them so I quickly walked in to the other downstairs bar before they spotted me. It was more promising and I spotted a couple of hotties playing pool against a Japanese man who's cigarette was threatening to spill ash over the cloth. A few stools along I noticed a girl smiling over. She wasn't a stunner by any stretch of the imagination but she had a curvy figure and given the short timescale I had to work with I said 'Hello'. Her name was Lyka and although she told me that she was 27 years old, I suspected she was older.
I didn't have long to seal the deal so within two minutes of chatting with her, I told her "I give you 1500 pesos for one hour". I felt it was generous but she must have thought I was born yesterday due to my youthful looks and said "3500 is usual price". I laughed. Even the top girls in the Korean bar upstairs would struggle to get that price! I told her that I had been to Manila many times before and taken many girls from LA Cafe and she agreed to my price without further need for negotiation. I didn't blame her for trying, these girls just want to make as much money as possible and who can blame them for that?
Lyka pointed to a girl sat the other side of her and asked "threesome?" If I accepted then I would have reached my golden 20 girl target but when the girl turned around I knew it wouldn't happen just yet. She looked over 40 and hadn't aged well. She smiled and was missing teeth. She did however seem to have an enormous pair of tits but I suspect they would sag a long way south once she took her bra off. I declined and opted to stick with one girl this time.
We arranged to meet outside and I quickly rushed out of LA Cafe before Anna or Rose (or Jonalyn even) could see me. I waited on the corner outside Amazonia and Lyka appeared two minutes later and we walked back to my hotel. One of the security guards smiled knowingly as he opened the door for me. He'd seen me walking in to my hotel with two girls just over an hour ago and now I was taking another girl up to my room.
The time was 7. 30 pm and I had thirty minutes to fuck her, shower and get to LA Cafe to meet Jonalyn. The small time-frame added to the excitement. It felt sordid, like I was having an affair.
She undressed. In the bar her figure had promised much but she was a wonderbra wonder and her tits almost disappeared when she took it off. She knelt over me and gave me a decent blowjob, then I put a condom on and we fucked in mish. I kissed her on the lips but she quickly pulled her head away so I didn't bother trying again. Normally I like to fuck a girl slowly to begin with but there wasn't time for that romantic nonsense now. I pounded her pussy as fast as I could with one eye on the clock. We tried a few different positions before I rolled on to my back and asked her to suck me again. It felt great with lots of deep sucks but she told me "not come in mouth". As I felt myself coming I communicated it to her via a selection of grunts and groans and she leaned back as I shot my load up my chest.
In truth, the sex was perfunctory. She was going through the motions and I was too. I just wanted to nail her as quickly as possible before meeting Jonalyn. Some of the sex I've had on this trip has been 'girlfriend sex' but this was like a quickie in the local knocking shop. In fairness to her, it was my fault for moving things along so quickly in LA Cafe. If you take your time and get to know a girl you are always guaranteed a better experience. I'd made her feel like a prostitute in the bar by talking about money so soon and she'd responding by acting like a prostitute in the bedroom.
We showered, got changed and I paid her 1500 pesos as agreed. It was a good pay-out for her for probably 30 minutes work. Another customer on another day would probably pay her 1500 for long-time but I had been in a rush and desperation had taken over.
I was pleased though. I'd managed to fuck three girls in the space of two hours, which meant my tally for the trip was now up to 19 girls. I could now relax and meet Jonalyn and spend the night together. I was looking forward to seeing her again. I met her on my first night in Manila 10 nights ago and she was a lovely girl who provided excellent sex. Since I had already fucked her she wouldn't count towards my challenge but tomorrow morning I'd get chance to take one last girl.
We had arranged to meet at 8 pm at LA Cafe but I was ten minutes later. The place was packed with lots of eager freelancers. I walked around the bar but couldn't see her, so bought a San Miguel and stood in the corner next to the stairs. Ann and Rose spotted me and walked over with another girl who was equally as hot. "Want to go again?" Anna asked mischievously and Rose said "three girls this time?" pointing at the new girl who smiled seductively. I've never had a foursome before but at that exact moment Jonalyn appeared.
She was stood a few meters away, looking hesitant with her arms folded. I think she thought I was chatting these three girls up instead of honoring our date, so I jumped out of my seat, hugged her and told Anna, Rose and her hot friend "this is my date for the night". They smiled politely and walked away to try another customer.
It as fantastic to see Jonalyn again and she looked pretty. We chatted and she asked me whether I'd met any girls while I was in Angeles. I'd fucked 12 since I saw her last, including 3 in the last two hours, but I shook my head and quickly changed subject. She asked if I saw lots of beautiful girls in Angeles and I said yes. "I not sexy" she said. She wasn't fishing for compliments, she was just painfully shy. I remembered back to the first time I saw her in the bar upstairs at LA Cafe, when she was sat in the corner, not talking to anyone or making eye contact.
LA Cafe was crowded so we decided to get some food. I wanted to treat her to a nice restaurant in Robinson's Mall but it closes at 10 pm so we were late. We walked hand-in-hand along Mabini Street looking for a restaurant but when she saw Jollibee she said "I like". Fast food wasn't what I had in mind for our romantic meal but I decided to go with the flow. I ordered the spicy chicken again which was every bit as tasty as I remembered.
After we had eaten our fill we went to G-POINT. It was 11.15 pm and it was packed with customers. We managed to get stools near the pool table and I noticed lots of guys looking at Jonalyn enviously. She told me that she recognised most of the girls from LA Cafe and most of the customers too! "I am the youngest girl in here" she added, "and you are the youngest man!" I love the atmosphere of this place and the bar-staff are always lots of fun. At one point a song played and I laughed at the irony of the lyrics "money for nothing and chicks for free".
By midnight we were back in my room, lying on the bed kissing. She was a fantastic kisser, soft and sensual and she liked to tease me with her tongue. The sex was fantastic, proper girlfriend sex when you can't get enough of each other. She gave me a nice blowjob and then we fucked in lots of different positions for what seemed an hour, until we were both glistening with sweat as she rode me to a climax. It's fair to say that this trip has delivered me some mind-blowing sex.
We showered and curled up in bed. I held her small body close and she fell asleep in my arms. I felt sad that tomorrow I'd be flying back to England. I'd miss girls like Jonalyn when I was home.
I also reflected on what a great day it had been. I had fucked Scarlet when I woke up in Angeles, then sisters Anna and Rose in Manila, Lyka and then the icing on the cake, Jonalyn. Five girls in one day, a new personal best! I went to bed with a smile on my face. How can you not when you come to Philippines?
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One of my girls taught me to say iyot. Loves it when I say "iyot" pronounced eeyowt. I think it means "fuck".
[QUOTE=BukoMax;1710073]Can you clue me in on a few juicy words? I am fully entrenched in the Visayas where the dialect is much different.[/QUOTE].
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Damn I wish I was much older so I wouldn't look out of place at an establishment like LA cafe, might try it out if my Tagalog game fails during the day LOL. Whats the best time to go there at night? 10 pm?
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[QUOTE=WaitWutwtflol;1710368]Damn I wish I was much older so I wouldn't look out of place at an establishment like LA cafe, might try it out if my Tagalog game fails during the day LOL. Whats the best time to go there at night? 10 pm?[/QUOTE]Unless you are 12 yrs old, I don't think you'll be out of place. Hmm, I've gone at all hours before. But 10 pm sounds about right.
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Hong Kong / Philippines diary, day 25
Day 25, Manila.
I woke up on the last day of my trip with Jonalyn curled up to me.
I checked the time and it was 10 am. I was leaving for the airport at 2 pm and needed to fuck just one more girl to reach my 20 girl target for the trip. But first I wanted sex one final time with Jonalyn. What is it they say, 'a bird in the hand is worth two in the Bush'? The phrase was probably invented for this exact scenario.
She slowly stirred, we kissed and then fucked. It was gentle girlfriend sex but there was something in her eyes. She knew I was leaving today and I think she was going to miss me. This was the third time I had spent the night with her and not only had I treated her nicely and we had lots of fun, she made good money. As we got changed afterwards she told me that she doesn't get many customers. I found that hard to believe as she was a very pretty girl and a real sweetheart. The reason according to her was because, in her words, "these small" pointing to her tits. I told her that most guys don't care about that and it's probably more the fact that when a guy sees a pretty girl who doesn't smile back, they think she's not interested. Even on the night we met she had been shy and quite aloof at first. I told her that she needed to show off her pretty smile more.
She gave me a hug and I discreetly slipped her payment, plus a generous tip. We kissed at the door and I watched her walk away down the corridor and disappear around the corner.
I packed and then checked out of Citystate Tower. I got my 1000 peso deposit back and counted how much money I had in my wallet. Just over 3000 pesos. It wasn't enough. I'd spend up to 2000 on my final girl of the trip but would also need to pay for a short-time room, the taxi to the airport and not forgetting the 600 departure tax. I withdrew another 1000 pesos from a nearby ATM.
Amazonia is the best bet for a short-time hotel near LA Cafe. There is a busy bar downstairs but the entrance to the hotel is at the side of the building up a few staircases. There is usually a guard sat at a small desk outside. The minimum booking is 3 hours and for that I got an air-con room for 600 pesos. Coincidentally it was room 102, the same room I stayed in on my first ever trip to Manila. I had a pangs of nostalgia as I recalled the lovely Stella I fucked in this very room. She wanted to try every position and we even fucked with me standing up and her legs wrapped tightly around me. Who needs exercise when you've got sexercise?
But now the room was dark and uninviting. There was little natural light because the window was blocked, presumably by a new building next door. I turned the air-con on and the old unit rumbled away as I stood in front of it to cool down. Amazonia is convenient as a short-time option due to its proximity to LA Cafe but there are far nicer hotels elsewhere.
It was midday and everything was running smoothly. I had two hours to find my final girl of the trip, fuck her and then go to the airport. Piece of cake.
From Amazonia it took 30 seconds to walk to LA Cafe. It's usually difficult to find a seat but at lunchtime the place was nearly empty. There were only about 20 girls dotted around the bar and a smattering of customers. The place felt sleepy. I ordered a drink, sat down and looked around for my final fling of the trip. I wasn't overwhelmed with options. The girls were mainly older which is not necessarily a problem as I don't mind a sexy cougar from time to time but there weren't any who fell in to that category. On a stool about 5 meters away a 40-something woman with big tits was eyeing me up. She wasn't my type so I quickly looked away.
A familiar girl walked past. It was the mixed-race girl I saw earlier in the holiday who reminded me of my friends younger sister who I've often fantasised about fucking. But without makeup she looked nowhere near as young or pretty. I was shocked. 11 days ago she was the pick of the girls but today she looked tired and had aged ten years. She was stood opposite the sole Korean customer in the bar trying to catch his eye.
Another girl walked past who looked promising. She had platinum blond hair and a sexy body and I admired her jiggling bum as she walked towards the pool tables. I didn't see her face so repositioned myself near the female toilets. After a few seconds she turned around and she was a 2/10 if I was being generous.
LA Cafe had slim pickings. In days gone by I've seen a few real gems in here during the afternoon but today wasn't my lucky day.
Half an hour had already elapsed and I needed to be picking a girl. I spotted a reasonably attractive young girl in the corner near the toilets. She smiled to me so I walked over and said "mind if I join you?" She was the youngest girl in the bar by a distance and certainly the prettiest and yet she was probably only a 6/10. She had a mixed-race look about her, perhaps with Vietnamese or Chinese blood. Her name was Michelle and she was 24. We chatted for a while and she was a sweet girl so I decided it was time to talk numbers.
I almost spluttered up my drink when she quoted me 3500 pesos for one hour! I told her that I never pay more than 2500 for long-time and she said "depends on girl". I had to laugh. She was implying that I was paying cheaper prices for uglier girls but it wasn't the case at all. I've bar-fined some stunners from here and never paid more than 2500 and yet she was quoting me a thousand more for only one hours work! I never begrudge a girl trying to make extra money for herself though. I was the youngest customer in the bar by at least 20 years and my pale skin means I always have that fresh-off-the-plane look, so she probably thought I was a newbie who didn't know the correct price. She also realised that she was the youngest girl in the bar so could charge a premium. Good on her. If you don't ask, you don't get.
We agreed on a price of 2000 which is too much for just one hour but I didn't see any other strong options around the bar and time was marching on.
We walked the short distance back to Amazonia and immediately got down to business. There was no small-talk, we just got unchanged as soon as we entered the room and showered. It felt very businesslike. We lay naked next to each other on the bed and I sucked her large nipples as she stroked my dick in to life. She then rolled a condom on to my dick and gave me a blowjob. I'm not a fan of covered blowjobs so I asked her to lie back and she spread her legs invitingly. I fucked her in a variety of positions and particularly enjoyed lying behind her and slapping in to her hard and fast from behind as she groaned loudly. I propped up two pillows, sat up and invited her to sit on me and she slowly rode me as we kissed. At first she wasn't an enthusiastic kisser but next minute she was trying to eat my face off.
When I knew I was near to coming I pulled off the condom. I was going to ask her to finish me with a hand-job but she surprised me by kneeling down and taking me in her mouth and giving me a nice, slurpy blowjob. Earlier she'd given me a covered blowjob but it felt infinitely better with her warm mouth wrapped around my dick. I lay back and closed my eyes. This would be the last time I would get to enjoy moments like this for a while. After five minutes she began wanking me furiously and shortly afterwards I shot my load up my chest. "Look at the mess you've made" I told her and she laughed.
After she left I packed and took a taxi to Terminal 3 of Ninoy Aquino airport. The drivers name was Edwin and he was quite a character. He told me that he had 7 children with 5 different mothers and I told him "you busy man!" The roads were relatively clear so the journey only took 20 minutes and he handed me his business card before I got out of his cab and told me to get in touch if I needed help to find a girl.
I flew Cebu Pacific to Hong Kong and we touched down at 6. 40. For a while I considered the possibility of taking a train in to the city and fucking one last girl but by the time the plane had taxied to the terminal and I got my luggage back, it was 7. 30 pm. My flight to England took off at exactly midnight so it was doable to take a girl but it might be tight to get back before boarding and I don't like to push my luck on travel days.
As I waited in the departure lounge I reflected on a brilliant trip.
Hong Kong had been lots of fun and I enjoyed exploring the 141 apartments blocks. There are some seriously pretty girls to be found in those old buildings and I fucked six hotties in their rooms. The girlfriend experience was tricky to find but Hong Kong is a place I'm certain I'll return to again. I went to mainland China for a week as a tourist and saw some beautiful scenery in Guilin, the pandas in Chengdu and the Great Wall in Beijing but I didn't find any girlie action. There are possibilities I believe (I. E the sand-dancing clubs) and I scored a date with a pretty tour-guide in Chengdu, but I was saving myself for Philippines. I hadn't been for three years and it didn't disappoint. LA Cafe is always great fun and even my friends Owen and Macca, veterans of the bar-scene in Pattaya, described it as the best bar they have ever been to. I visited 46 separate gogo bars in Angeles and it proved to be the 'gogo capital of the world' with some lovely girls.
Yukie from Tung Choi was my favourite girl in Hong Kong despite the fact she didn't speak a word of English. Unless you have a deep wallet, Hong Kong is a 'short-time' destination so it was great to arrive in Philippines and spend the night with some truly gorgeous girls. Marnie, Melanie and Scarlet in Angeles were all brilliant girls and gave me the kind of girlfriend experience I crave. Kylie gave me deep-throat, Nicole's huge natural tits will live long in my memory and I had a threesome with sisters in Manila. But my official 'girl of the trip' was Jonalyn who I met in LA Cafe. I don't often go with a girl twice and I'd been with her three times. She was the girl who stuck in my mind as my plane left the tarmac and I left Asia behind.
I love exploring different sex destination but Philippines is top of the pile for me. It lacks the variety of Thailand, the excitement of Cambodia and the rock-bottom prices of Indonesia but Filipina girls are worth returning again and again for.
THE END (phew!).
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Sir Lancelot, excellent reports, thanks for sharing. Should be linked as report of distinction.
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Thanks for the great set of reports Sir L.
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[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1710664]Day 25, Manila.
THE END (phew!).[/QUOTE]I look forward to reading your autobiography.
Ikksman.
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I patched all of his episodes on a single document and forwarded to my kindle as a pdf. I used his Hong Kong affairs as a guide and had an awesome time. I will read the rest of the days soon. The guy really can put the.
Words together. What a good job!.
[QUOTE=Ikksman;1710799]I look forward to reading your autobiography.
Ikksman.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=WaitWutwtflol;1710368]Damn I wish I was much older so I wouldn't look out of place at an establishment like LA cafe...[/QUOTE]Age is important, and proper attire even more so. As one of Manila's oldest free-lancer clubs LA Cafe is very traditional, as you'd expect. After 6 pm a dinner jacket is a must; in the hottest months of May and June you may wear Red Sea rig. Don't commit a faux pas by wearing a watch or oxford shoes, substituting a buttoned shirt for studs and links, or thinking no one will notice if you fail to wear a cummerbund. Whenever in doubt always chose downside up over upside down.
The codgers and crusties hang out at G Point, there the dress code is much more relaxed. Scandalously so. Pfft... pensioners. Wear your dancin' shoes.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1710828]Age is important, and proper attire even more so. As one of Manila's oldest free-lancer clubs LA Cafe is very traditional, as you'd expect. After 6 pm a dinner jacket is a must; in the hottest months of May and June you may wear Red Sea rig. Don't commit a faux pas by wearing a watch or oxford shoes, substituting a buttoned shirt for studs and links, or thinking no one will notice if you fail to wear a cummerbund. Whenever in doubt always chose downside up over upside down.
The codgers and crusties hang out at G Point, there the dress code is much more relaxed. Scandalously so. Pfft... pensioners. Wear your dancin' shoes.[/QUOTE]Well said Huts, and don't forget that black, patent leather pumps are never inappropriate.
GE.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1710828]Age is important, and proper attire even more so. As one of Manila's oldest free-lancer clubs LA Cafe is very traditional, as you'd expect. After 6 pm a dinner jacket is a must; in the hottest months of May and June you may wear Red Sea rig. Don't commit a faux pas by wearing a watch or oxford shoes, substituting a buttoned shirt for studs and links, or thinking no one will notice if you fail to wear a cummerbund. Whenever in doubt always chose downside up over upside down.
The codgers and crusties hang out at G Point, there the dress code is much more relaxed. Scandalously so. Pfft... pensioners. Wear your dancin' shoes.[/QUOTE]Thanks for clearing that up. I was a little confused about the cumnherbun part.
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[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1704861]Day 15, Manila.
For some people 'long-time' means the opportunity to fuck a girl as many times as possible, to get full bang for their bucks. But for me I enjoy sleeping curled up with a girl and then sometimes having sex again in the morning. Jonalyn was brilliant. She hugged up to me all night and would randomly wake me with kisses. This is the kind of intimacy I look for.
I warned her about stealing too much of the bed again and she jokingly pretended to draw a line down the middle to divide the bed in half. A few minutes after the lights went off she whispered "you can come in to my half if you like". We fell asleep arm-in-arm.[/QUOTE]Love the reports!
I was in the Philippines about a year ago for a month. I spent time in Manila and Angeles City, as well as Subic Bay, Bohol, Palawan and Boracay. I hated Manila. I didn't have much use for Angeles City or Subic Bay either. I figured I'd never go back. Your reports are making me think twice. Thanks.
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AC and Manila
[QUOTE=WildBillLewis;1711004]Love the reports!
I was in the Philippines about a year ago for a month. I spent time in Manila and Angeles City, as well as Subic Bay, Bohol, Palawan and Boracay. I hated Manila. I didn't have much use for Angeles City or Subic Bay either. I figured I'd never go back. Your reports are making me think twice. Thanks.[/QUOTE]To Wild Bill.
My frist trip tp AC is back in 1998 I stay for 2 days I told myself one a shit hole and I not coming back again but I been back 10 time since then, I totally agree AC is not for everyone either you like it or hate it PI is still a bargin compare to other country in Asia nowday.
Fast eddie 48.
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[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1704861]Day 15, Manila.
I went to the toilet and there was a Filipino man handing out towels next to the sink, a pet hate of mine. Earlier in the night I'd given him a small tip but this time I walked towards the door without giving him anything. He grabbed my arm to prevent me from leaving and nodded aggressively towards the tray. I shrugged him off, gave him a glare and walked out. I'm a generous tipper but it's ridiculous that he expected me to tip every time I went to the toilet. I certainly didn't appreciate being man-handled by him.
[/QUOTE]First off, great posts. It seems I need to reconsider my views of the Philippines. More field research appears to be needed.
Regarding your experience with the "handler" in the bathroom, isn't that annoying? I hate it when two guys come up behind me while I'm standing at a urinal and try to give me a massage. The instant their hands touch me, I cringe. I know how to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. I know how to wash my hands. If I'm in Thailand, I also know where to go if I want a set of hands touching me (which is, if the night is going well, right back out to the dance floor where (discounting the ladyboys) the hands are very likely to be female).
When I was last in Thailand, the Marine Disco had "handlers" like this and they had tip plates, each with a crisp 100 Baht bill in them. Imagine! Like you, one night I walked out after dishing out some change and got grumbles. A few nights later, I walked out without dishing out anything and got my arm grabbed.
What I can't understand is why establishments put up with these clowns. I can't imagine they generate a lot of income for the club, but I know in my case (and Ill be in the case of a lot of other guys too), if I have a choice between a place with "handlers" and a place where I can [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in peace, all other things being equal, I'll take my business to the latter.
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[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1710664]Day 25, Manila.
I woke up on the last day of my trip with Jonalyn curled up to me.
THE END (phew!).[/QUOTE]Great report, can't wait to hit Manila in a few months.
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Ermita to Fairview
Once with a girl, resident of Fairview, I took air-con bus going up Taft Avenue. Coming back, took FX the same route. I don't know that taxi will really be faster.
[QUOTE=WaitWutwtflol;1709844]To the Manila vets here, what's the best mode of transportation from Makati to SM Fairview in Quezon? I might have to take a metered taxi as I don't know the ways around even though I am semi fluent in Tagalog.[/QUOTE]
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Thanks for the Heads Up Erap
Only in this city with some of the worst traffic congestion in the world will they schedule a frigg'and large parade with floats, marching bands and the whole works on a Friday at 6:00 pm On Roxas Blvd. , during rush hour (s). The parade is at least a half mile long. Southbound traffic on Roxas is closed. Forethought was never a strong suit of these people. I was actually surprised by this. Usually at this locale I see / hear parades at 7:00 am On Sunday mornings going down Quirino to Roxas. Perhaps they didn't want to interfere with people going to church with this one.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1710828]and proper attire even more so.[/QUOTE]So my expensive barong was the problem. LOL.
[QUOTE=Mbsl65;1710803]I patched all of his episodes on a single document[/QUOTE]You should check with Lancelot and Jackson. If ok, you can just attach the file. I for one would appreciate it as I am still reading his Manila first visit account.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1705404]I think the original poster was using "troll" as a verb, meaning to fish using a baited line, in which case the usage is not at all pejorative and refers only to trolling for companions.
GE.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ikksman;1705335]I am extremely tolerant wrt bad spelling and grammar, but sometimes poor English can impart the wrong meaning or at least confuse the reader.
[B]Troll[/B]
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers.
[SUP][url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll[/url][/SUP]
Perhaps "trawl" was the word intended to be used. Some (many?) readers would not pick this up, and thus the esteemed [I]JacktheLad2[/I] could hereafter be labelled a "troll" in the minds of those readers.
Or perhaps the writer deliberately labelled our [I]Lad[/I] as a "troll"? But who knows, unless the question is raised!
Other common potentially misleading errors include:
Using the word "inciteful" when "insightful" was the intended meaning.
Failing to distinguish between HKD and USD (or other $) - might be obvious to HK residents and frequent visitors, but . . .
Ikksman[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Boarer;1709053]Yikes! There be a troll (or [B]Troll[/B]) in this here forum with a big pole sticking out of its eye (maybe arse) and a foot in its mouth (or both feet)!
To paraphrase something else written a couple millennia ago, we are fishermen. IMHO, JTL might have better luck with a handsum wallet as a lure. Good for catching ladies and sailfish. Though, for the latter, the captain usually takes a much bigger bite than many ladies.
Many ladies will ask you to buy them a dildo later, in private.
(HKD, HK$ or the official currency of the HKSAR) 15.
Remember, Google and RTFF are your friends.
Now, back to our regular programming... Where did Lancelot leave off....[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=WaitWutwtflol;1709844]To the Manila vets here, what's the best mode of transportation from Makati to SM Fairview in Quezon? I might have to take a metered taxi as I don't know the ways around even though I am semi fluent in Tagalog.[/QUOTE]I have done the Makati Ave Fairview SM trip once by taxi. Its a long long way. Cost was P1000 from a decent driver.
Went to meet a girl there who was having a 21st birthday. Driver waited for us whilst we played hide and seek in the mall and the normal " where are you, I'm here" nonsense. He then drove us back to Makati where girl and I had a beer or two. Then girls phone rang and apparently it was her mother telling the girl to get home now. Fortunately one of the Makati massage ladies found me on wechat and my disappointment at suddenly being single didn't last for long.
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[QUOTE=WaitWutwtflol;1709844]To the Manila vets here, what's the best mode of transportation from Makati to SM Fairview in Quezon? I might have to take a metered taxi as I don't know the ways around even though I am semi fluent in Tagalog.[/QUOTE]As I think I might have indicated in a prior response to this or a similar post, I recommend you take an Uber car. It will be no more expensive than a taxi, and probably cheaper if you take UberX, and likely much more pleasant. I've chosen to respond again to suggest that public transportation, particularly buses and jeepneys, may present an increasingly unattractive alternative. My wife keeps reciting statistics relative to increased crime on public transport, as reported in the "Philippine Inquirer. " In my eleven years year, I've never taken public transportation (other than taxis) in Manila, and highly doubt that I ever will do so.
GE.
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Re Uber in Manila
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1713395]As I think I might have indicated in a prior response to this or a similar post, I recommend you take an Uber car. It will be no more expensive than a taxi, and probably cheaper if you take UberX, and likely much more pleasant. I've chosen to respond again to suggest that public transportation, particularly buses and jeepneys, may present an increasingly unattractive alternative. My wife keeps reciting statistics relative to increased crime on public transport, as reported in the "Philippine Inquirer. " In my eleven years year, I've never taken public transportation (other than taxis) in Manila, and highly doubt that I ever will do so.
GE.[/QUOTE]Just wondering about registering for Uber in Manila - 1. Do you need a local credit card or will an overseas card be OK 2. Is it best to register in your home country first and does it work in other countries if you are already registered in another country?
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Speedy fuck
Arrived today by Emirates 4 pm. Texted one girl while taxiing to the arrival gate saying she should be present my hotel right away (I was giving her some slack and no time limits Westie, just right away explaining I was just arriving). I chose a girl I knew live in Pasay so I actually pass this area on my way to my new favorite hotel, New World Manila Bay. She said ok she would come meet me. Before even bags start coming in baggage claim area she told she was on her way. Luckely I got my bag as nr 3, picked up my bag and ran into the hotels Toyota waiting for me.
Driver managed to get me to my hotel within 50 min and that is not to bad from T3(despite rush hours, he knew a lot of small roads, not roads etc etc). I will advice arriving this hours before i have once used 1hr 30min from T3 to Ascott Makati(no more than 5-6km and New World much further). Still I arrived after my date and SHE was complaining I was late, hehe. That is a new twist since we are sometimes complaining about latecommers.
Truly I claimed I was horny so we just dived into bed and fucked. I popped quite fast inside her. I felt after 5 min of unwinding ready for another go so we fucked again. She surprised me by beeing curious about A+ service so I popped it in her barn. 15 min later I finished and we parted despite her question: "can we hang out tonight, maybe go clubbing or sth"(I refused pulling a white on her stating I have some meetings in the evening. Which is partially true as a new girl is on her way from Makati to my place as I write.
All in all 35 minutes or so of intense love making. Thats the way to go guys.
As a side note: favorite hotel equal to Ascott i mean. I hate the Malate area but here i just stay inside the hotel premises(maybe a 7/11 visit but mostly i get the staff to arrange shopping there if i want Tanduays as the hotel dont have this brand).
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Seeking wisdom - 1st time in PI, 24 hrs in Manila, Fly in & out
I'm doing business elsewhere in Asia and my connecting flight has me on the ground long in Manila and I can stretch it to 24 hours for free so I have an opportunity for a quick experience in a new place.
Do any of the PI pros have a suggestion on a perfect 24 hour PI experience? Does it require going into Manila proper or is it easy to get a nice place near the airport and still get an awesome PI experience?
I'm well experienced in HKG and TPE but I've ben really curious about a PI fling and now I have an opportunity.
Gentlemen, tell me what you would do if you hit the airport and had 24 hours.
Many thanks!
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[QUOTE=Tired_Driver;1713795]I'm doing business elsewhere in Asia and my connecting flight has me on the ground long in Manila and I can stretch it to 24 hours for free so I have an opportunity for a quick experience in a new place.
Do any of the PI pros have a suggestion on a perfect 24 hour PI experience? Does it require going into Manila proper or is it easy to get a nice place near the airport and still get an awesome PI experience?
I'm well experienced in HKG and TPE but I've ben really curious about a PI fling and now I have an opportunity.
Gentlemen, tell me what you would do if you hit the airport and had 24 hours.
Many thanks![/QUOTE]What is your capacity strength, budget?
If you want to fuck lots of girls or just a couple?
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[QUOTE=Tired_Driver;1713795]Gentlemen, tell me what you would do if you hit the airport and had 24 hours.
Many thanks![/QUOTE]He's trawling. Of his posts (rare, 30 posts since 2003, and his last most previous post 2 years ago), he mostly asks questions, with few descriptive field reports.
Hoping you find what you are looking for TD, but I fear you will not be posting FR's after getting your Manila info.
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Sic Transit Gloria Burgos?
I was having dinner with a Canadian friend last night who told me he had just read an article somewhere on line about the emergence of Burgos as the new hot restaurant quarter. Evidently it's now home to an increasing number of "edgy" new restaurants, and has thus begun to attract a wholly different sort of crowd than those who normally visit the area to hit the bars. I wonder, given that the land must be extremely valuable, and given the evident influx of new, non-sex-related businesses, if Burgos will not eventually go the way of Times Square, and undergo a decade-long transformation into a more middle to upper class tourist / entertainment mecca. I've often wondered how bar owners made any money since presumably the rents in the center of Makati are high.
GE.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1713858]I was having dinner with a Canadian friend last night who told me he had just read an article somewhere on line about the emergence of Burgos as the new hot restaurant quarter. Evidently it's now home to an increasing number of "edgy" new restaurants, and has thus begun to attract a wholly different sort of crowd than those who normally visit the area to hit the bars. I wonder, given that the land must be extremely valuable, and given the evident influx of new, non-sex-related businesses, if Burgos will not eventually go the way of Times Square, and undergo a decade-long transformation into a more middle to upper class tourist / entertainment mecca. I've often wondered how bar owners made any money since presumably the rents in the center of Makati are high.
GE.[/QUOTE]Seoul's Itaewon girly bar area transformed to upscale dining and posh boutiques. Near Burgos you'll find decent dining in the side streets, on Jupiter, on Makati Ave near Gramercy, and Kalayaan and its side streets.
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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1713836]He's trawling. Of his posts (rare, 30 posts since 2003, and his last most previous post 2 years ago), he mostly asks questions, with few descriptive field reports.
Hoping you find what you are looking for TD, but I fear you will not be posting FR's after getting your Manila info.[/QUOTE]Fair point. I'm mostly stateside but when I get out I don't want to waste an opportunity. So to your well-made point, if you outline a best spent 24 HR in Manila I will post a detailed FR with pics.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;1713823]What is your capacity strength, budget?
If you want to fuck lots of girls or just a couple?[/QUOTE]All of the above? My capacity strength and budget are high. I could go play in Tokyo or TPE but interested in new and amazing. My gut says sportfucking 3-4 for variety during day and a duo long time / overnight.
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The odd sitiuation.
Today around noon I did my first sexual activity. I was texting a girl yesterday eve and she told she would show up my hotel at noon. A tad before noon today I got the text "I am here now". The overnight girl just left so all fine (just stretching some bedcovers and remove the visible long hairs from yesterdays / nightly fun activity). Not as accurate as Huts usualy is but still I did some efforts. I washed my dicky and went down to pick her.
At the meetingpoint I saw 2 girls standing and I recognized my girl at once. The other one considerably older I had no clue who was. I went to my girl and greeted her. She told me this was her mother and they were out shopping in the area and the mother was just curious to see who I was and how I looked (I guess the mom must have been in her early 40 ies). It felt a bit kreepy I must add but I also felt aroused and from pure instincts my mind was doing a porn movie with mother and daughter. Well the movie wasnt to be played in real life as the mother all smiley and giggely told us to be careful and off she went. Me and girl went up to room and fucked. 1 hour later she texted her mother and I got a good understanding they would meet up again somewhere at Robinsons. I bet this would not happen in Norway a mother leaving her daughter to be fucked by a foreign guy. To be frank the mother beeing all 40 still looked doable but I did not have the nerves to ask any further regarding my dirty wishes / thoughts. After all I have a proper upbringing and even if I monger hard some limits are still nice to have.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1713940]I washed my dicky...
[/QUOTE]Don't do that. It's like a gateway drug; a fine way to gradually introduce a gal to pussy licking. "You love my cock your mouth, yeah? You've been sucking pussy juice off my dick for weeks now."
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[QUOTE=Tired_Driver;1713910]Fair point. I'm mostly stateside but when I get out I don't want to waste an opportunity. So to your well-made point, if you outline a best spent 24 HR in Manila I will post a detailed FR with pics.[/QUOTE]Your what-to-do-in-a-day request has been covered often in the forum and there's a lot of good advice. Most important, imo: If you're looking to maximise your fun stay avoid traveling all over the city. Unless your definition of fun is traffic, in which case you'll be overjoyed by Manila.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1713866]Seoul's Itaewon girly bar area transformed to upscale dining and posh boutiques. Near Burgos you'll find decent dining in the side streets, on Jupiter, on Makati Ave near Gramercy, and Kalayaan and its side streets.[/QUOTE]Agreed, and I think the number of upscale restaurants / boutiques and so on is going to grow. This is some of the most expensive real estate in the country, and I think that alone is eventually going to displace the bars.
GE.
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Nice when they come in pairs.
At 8 pm and 11 pm yesterday I did set up duo play. First pair arrived 30 min early and second 15 min early. I might worked to hard avoiding girls to be late as so far this trip I did not experience any latecommers. Infact all have been early or right on time to the minute. Beeing to early is not great either but as long as I am finished with the pervious session and some swift evidenceremovals it is ok I guess. I give them a lot of positive feedbacks for beeing atleast not late.
8 pm session played out as a real FFM session where they mounted me, kissed eachother (after some guidance by me), licked eachother and last but not least shared my cum (that was a hard one to convince them to do but it was damn sexy). After some unwinding we had another go but I did not want to drench myself bcs I knew the 11 pm duo would want some as well. So we just played eachother and giggled a lot and fucked a little bit here and there. Great session. Girls were all cheerful and did have a good spirit along the way.
11 pm duo, also on time, I treated with a small party (a few hotel pizzas and loads of drinks). The girls got tipsy and it eases them up quite a bit. They were absolutely not fine with FFM play to begin with but again some alcohol breaks down shyness and before I knew it they were making out with eachother. I jumped in and we did have a nice session. Maybe not as in a porn movie but to my liking after all. These girls drew the line when it came to cum swappings. Around 4 am I shipped them out and gave them a few blue ones each to get some quality sleep. When I wake up around 2 ish this afternoon the first thing I notice is Westis ballsprogram from the photothread here. What a way to start another fine mongering day.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1714333]When I wake up around 2 ish this afternoon the first thing I notice is Westis [B][I]ballsprogram[/I][/B] from the photothread here. What a way to start another fine mongering day.[/QUOTE]Glad to be of service.
*SMILE*.
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The slow Thursday but still busy.
Did put in a relaxing day as in only played with one duo and a girl coming over for the night. That was nice for a change. I must admit that to many girls have my number by now and to be frank I could need a secretary to keep track of appointments, possible new meetable girls, planning etc etc. Well I could ofcourse change my number (s) but the problem is I have 3 different numbers and it is becoming quite chaotic to remember who got this number and who got that. When we add in communicationlines running in from Whatsapp, Viber, Wechat and various messenger services it takes atleast one person to only keep track. To complete the chaos girls tend to change numbers quite often and when a new number pops up and she introduces herself "Hello, it is me, Selma" I am like a big questionmark as most of the times a name is connected with a number. When this sytem failes I am fucked.
I have 3 girls named Karen and when 2 of them changes numbers almost at the same time ihave no chance in knowing which one of the Karens I am actually communicating with.
So a very frequent used sentense from my part these days is when a girl think she is special. Hello do you remember me? Yes ofcourse I remember you I answer without having a single clue who she is. I guess we can call it an overflow with girlie contacts but I should have been better organizing them from the beginning. My situation topped itself up when I left the more easygoing datingsite and left my fake FB running freely. 2 becomes 4, 4 becomes 8 and so on as girls onviously talk. Having two pimpettes and run the show through them helped a while but now I hear constantly when I have new girls over through the pimpette that they want to operate without mentioned service and contact me directly. They also do their fair share in making this even more chaotic as they also want to introduce me to some of their friends.
But who am I to complain? It is a delicate situation to operate under, chaotic, but thrilling. I have felt the need to put out some ground rules though:
1. No calls, I answer only text msgs (if someone calls it should be me and a typical situation I do that is when I e a girl is lost and can not find my place.
2. They have to bring ID, I don't allways check it but if any doubts I ask the staffs to have a look at it.
3. 18 and above ofcourse (connected with rule nr 2).
4. Requests for money is a typical no go.
5. don't be late (I have worked nr 5 quite a lot and now the rumour has spread itself so hard so the girls are beeing far to early which under some circumstances is as bad as beeing late). If a girl happens to be late I balance this out in how hot she is and / or how late she is. No timelimits but I cancelled with a few ones.
6. No menstruation (pimpettes are doing a good job here but as usual some pinays have no idea of their cyclus and are as surprised as me when blood pops up. I have seen blood before so sometimes I just pump on.
7. Not interested in listen to all pinays trouble out there. Betterfind something jolly to talk about instead. I do carry a friendly and humoristic approach but problems can be a mood killer.
8. don't call my hotel. Some girls have actually done that to check if I am still here and here I get only angry at the hotel staffs. I check in under my own name ofcourse but I ask them to sign me in under a false name (my nick name so not that false). I also underline importance no one should know I am here or get the hold of me through a call to the hotel (only a person intruduces herself as my mother should be able to do that). It has failed many times so have to work out a new strategy here.
Well well yesterdays duo play arrived on time and gave me a nice session. One of the girls did have some stomach issues so I sat her free after fingering her ass (typical bad smell). The other one continued up to my completion. They arrived ahead of schedueled 3 pm. Yesterday was a slow day so no risk to be had if they would have been late.
8 pm girl texted me at 6 pm and asked if it was ok she arrived 8:30 pm instead. She was my last girl yesterday and an overnighter so I said yes. Extremely fine this Nicole babe. 20 something and a spinner body out of this world so that's why she could stay the night.
My biz here in New World Malate has come to an end and I move my biz to Makati having a 1 pm date coming over so I better stop writing, pack up, check out and taxi my way over there. I think I might be a tad late actually. But the world is an unfair place so I feel that is ok when it is me. After all I am in charge, hehe.
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Hi guys!
I'm flying in at 10 pm and must leave on a connecting flight the next day at lunch.
Are there any spots open or well known areas near or somewhat near the airport for a quickie??
Thanks in advance!
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1715575]Hi guys!
I'm flying in at 10 pm and must leave on a connecting flight the next day at lunch.
Are there any spots open or well known areas near or somewhat near the airport for a quickie??
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Plenty and if you RTFF you will find the answers.
Do you realize that most of your 27 FRs are questions? While you are RTFFing also look for 'give and take' And you will also find FRs on that subject also.
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[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1715774]Plenty and if you RTFF you will find the answers.
Do you realize that most of your 27 FRs are questions? While you are RTFFing also look for 'give and take' And you will also find FRs on that subject also.[/QUOTE]Take a pill. Yeah. A whole 27 posts.
Do you realize you don't have much a life searching other peoples profiles??
Figures since you got nothing better to do with over 4000 posts on here.
I'm sure you asked plenty over the decades you've been on here.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1715931]Take a pill. Yeah. A whole 27 posts.
Do you realize you don't have much a life searching other peoples profiles??
Figures since you got nothing better to do with over 4000 posts on here.
I'm sure you asked plenty over the decades you've been on here.[/QUOTE]Yes I am sure WR have asked a lot of questions. We all did but we also contributed more or less heavily into this forum. WR can defend himself (not that he needs to) but I like to explain the motion of this forum. If you are taker you will not get much info here. If you both give and take that is perfectly ok. By giving we mean something more useful than just asking questions you by using the search function can easily find out without asking and use valuable bandwith with nothing. A fullblooded FR some description maybe even a photo of some lovelies makes our hearts melt and you will getting all the info you need. And by just a google search I found tons of info on what to do in Manila and even close to airport.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1715931]Take a pill. Yeah. A whole 27 posts.
Do you realize you don't have much a life searching other peoples profiles??
Figures since you got nothing better to do with over 4000 posts on here.
I'm sure you asked plenty over the decades you've been on here.[/QUOTE]Well since you asked I can tell LOL.
I have asked before but the difference is I RTFF first. Examples. When I first visited Manila I RTFF got a list of information on bars and hotels etc and then I PM someone and asked a specific question.
Loso69 of long time ago fame in Asia did the same when he visited Abu Dhabi and met me.
And the time it took to find FRs related to your question was a few seconds as the search function is good IMHO. Longer than to type this FR.
Skogis. Thanks very nice of you and the give and take is always a great part of the forum unlike in other countries such as India and now sadly to a degree the UAE where it is being 'polluted' but the one handed typist brigade who ask questions because they are lazy and get their rocks off in ways far different from you and I LOL. BTW the way good you did not indulge at the smelly pussy but I do have mates who would just slip on an extra condom and not worry LOL.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1715935]Yes I am sure WR have asked a lot of questions. We all did but we also contributed more or less heavily into this forum. WR can defend himself (not that he needs to) but I like to explain the motion of this forum. If you are taker you will not get much info here. If you both give and take that is perfectly ok. By giving we mean something more useful than just asking questions you by using the search function can easily find out without asking and use valuable bandwith with nothing. A fullblooded FR some description maybe even a photo of some lovelies makes our hearts melt and you will getting all the info you need. And by just a google search I found tons of info on what to do in Manila and even close to airport.[/QUOTE]If I spent all my life on here as WR is doing then ID have plenty to contribute.
I'm new to this site so I don't have reports left and right to post on here about.
I think I'm entitled to under 30 posts if I like since I'm a paid member.
WR should be going after non contributors who basically are doing the same thing but didn't pay anything to the site.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1715983]If I spent all my life on here as WR is doing then ID have plenty to contribute.
I'm new to this site so I don't have reports left and right to post on here about.
I think I'm entitled to under 30 posts if I like since I'm a paid member.
WR should be going after non contributors who basically are doing the same thing but didn't pay anything to the site.[/QUOTE]Ok, Flight168 or Airforce One should make you happy (I agree we might give you atleast some help since you are a paid member). These places are relatively close to the the airport. And you have EDSA (entertainment district in I think paranaque / pasay). Heritage hotel seems to be a choice of some mongers. I just use informetion provided here at ISG as those mentioned places / area are far from my idea of having fun.
But again i dont go for p4p or BG's..
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1716000]Ok, Flight168 or Airforce One should make you happy (I agree we might give you atleast some help since you are a paid member). These places are relatively close to the the airport. And you have EDSA (entertainment district in I think paranaque / pasay). Heritage hotel seems to be a choice of some mongers. I just use informetion provided here at ISG as those mentioned places / area are far from my idea of having fun.
But again i dont go for p4p or BG's..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice! So since you dont p4p do you usually try and pick up at clubs?
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1716025]Thanks for the advice! So since you dont p4p do you usually try and pick up at clubs?[/QUOTE]You see Skogis. You help and you are asked another question from a 'contributor" whose FR history is all questions. This is why am a tad cynical in my old age LOL.
LoveinAsia. My advice is be thankful someone helped you a little, so go there and figure it out yourself, stop asking questions as if you to the place Skogis has mentioned you can see for yourself and FR to everyone here your experience and tips.
Next question will be "what clubs, how do you pick them up"? Of hic all the answer are found if the person bothers to RTFF which LoveinAsia can't do as he seems to be a one hand typist?
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1715931]Take a pill. Yeah. A whole 27 posts.
Do you realize you don't have much a life searching other peoples profiles??
Figures since you got nothing better to do with over 4000 posts on here.
I'm sure you asked plenty over the decades you've been on here.[/QUOTE]There are many of us, sunshine, who have been here for a good few years, and have made many contributions here. Recommend you do not denigrate a fellow poster just because he has made a significant contribution. Maybe applaud the guy for the immense contribution he made to the board. Just a thought.
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[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1716216]You see Skogis. You help and you are asked another question from a 'contributor" whose FR history is all questions. This is why am a tad cynical in my old age LOL.
LoveinAsia. My advice is be thankful someone helped you a little, so go there and figure it out yourself, stop asking questions as if you to the place Skogis has mentioned you can see for yourself and FR to everyone here your experience and tips.
Next question will be "what clubs, how do you pick them up"? Of hic all the answer are found if the person bothers to RTFF which LoveinAsia can't do as he seems to be a one hand typist?[/QUOTE]Who said I was a "contributor" ?? Your sight must be going at your golden years. I'm a fairly new member here with low post count as thousands of others on here who make an account and ask similar questions. Are you the sites chief of police??
You can insult me be calling me a one hand typist but at least my other hands not on a cane."LOL"
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1716254]There are many of us, sunshine, who have been here for a good few years, and have made many contributions here. Recommend you do not denigrate a fellow poster just because he has made a significant contribution. Maybe applaud the guy for the immense contribution he made to the board. Just a thought.[/QUOTE]If his 4000 posts are anything similar to the ones he responded to mine are then I won't be too impressed or will be applauding him anytime soon.
The difference between he and I is that I don't go searching peoples profile and past posting history and waste my time commenting about it.
I'm sure I can quote many a useless posts by him and post a reply but I don't.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1716257]
You can insult me be calling me a one hand typist but at least my other hands not on a cane."LOL"[/QUOTE]Careful whom you denigrate Sunshine as one day, if you're lucky, your hands too may be affixed to a cane. Some of us who are in our dotage think that perhaps living out in this part of the world may actually extend, if not our life expectancy, then surely the quality of whatever remains.
GE.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1716302]Careful whom you denigrate Sunshine as one day, if you're lucky, your hands too may be affixed to a cane. Some of us who are in our dotage think that perhaps living out in this part of the world may actually extend, if not our life expectancy, then surely the quality of whatever remains.
GE.[/QUOTE]I get it. You guys love the word "Sunshine".
Yes we all get old. But according to him I'm a one hand typist at the moment.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1716305]I get it. You guys love the word "Sunshine".
Yes we all get old. But according to him I'm a one hand typist at the moment.[/QUOTE]No, not so much that. I merely wanted to communicate that the reasons so many of us enjoy SE Asia even more as we get older is because, from the standpoint of hanging out with younger women, our age isn't nearly as relevant as it would be in the West. I've been away for long enough that it actually seems normal for me to see old men and young women. I guess that the only way to truly appreciate that is to get older and come here.
As to your questions, I don't mind them, at all. We were all once new with little or no experience of the countries in the region. The best advice I could give you is just to come out for as much time as you can spare and experience the place, as what appeals to some may not appeal to others. If you've got limited time, I think Edsa Entertainment Complex across from the Heritage Hotel is a good suggestion. It's not far from Parańaque, where the airport is, and there are lots of choices.
Have fun and let us know what you eventually decided.
GE.
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Funnily enough you have plenty of time to make posts that add essentially nothing.
A fine specimen of the managerial class you are!
[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1715983]If I spent all my life on here as WR is doing then ID have plenty to contribute.
I'm new to this site so I don't have reports left and right to post on here about.
I think I'm entitled to under 30 posts if I like since I'm a paid member.
WR should be going after non contributors who basically are doing the same thing but didn't pay anything to the site.[/QUOTE]
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Thats also my strongpoint to this fella. Why not use the time, instead of quarreling, to find out how to search for info. But as I gave him a few head points up the road (which I have found out by just RTFF this forum without having any interest in visiting as in no need), since he after all are a paid member.
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GE seems to set a mood change. Hope it lasts!!
I've been known to be brusk with people here and there, so I have no right to criticize the criticizers. I will say that all of us old-timers at ISG should aspire to be as calm and generous as GE. Because of his good advice I was able to leave my comfort zones of the Philippines and explore some parts of Mindanao. That was nearly a decade ago. Thanks again GE.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1716411]No, not so much that. I merely wanted to communicate that the reasons so many of us enjoy SE Asia even more as we get older is because, from the standpoint of hanging out with younger women, our age isn't nearly as relevant as it would be in the West. I've been away for long enough that it actually seems normal for me to see old men and young women. I guess that the only way to truly appreciate that is to get older and come here.
As to your questions, I don't mind them, at all. We were all once new with little or no experience of the countries in the region. The best advice I could give you is just to come out for as much time as you can spare and experience the place, as what appeals to some may not appeal to others. If you've got limited time, I think Edsa Entertainment Complex across from the Heritage Hotel is a good suggestion. It's not far from Paraaque, where the airport is, and there are lots of choices.
Have fun and let us know what you eventually decided.
GE.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Cons68;1716482]Funnily enough you have plenty of time to make posts that add essentially nothing.
A fine specimen of the managerial class you are![/QUOTE]Thats right. I just made time. And you can ask the guy who started at me with his "nothing"ness.
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Apropos of absolutely nothing, I left Bangkok's perfect airport about 3. 5 hours ago and landed at the slum this country calls an airport 35 minutes ago, when we were told that no gates were available (at 5:15 AM) and we would just have to wait. This difference alone explains while his place remains firmly ensconced at the bottom of the ASEAN pile.
GE.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1716257]Who said I was a "contributor" ?? [/QUOTE]I will jump in. We don't mind questions, but only from contributors. Please don't trawl (this isn't the DR or Columbian forum). If you are not here to contribute, we'd like to see you politely move on. I would be glad to help you if you contact me in PM.
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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1716707]I will jump in. We don't mind questions, but only from contributors. Please don't trawl (this isn't the DR or Columbian forum). If you are not here to contribute, we'd like to see you politely move on. I would be glad to help you if you contact me in PM.[/QUOTE]So if a new member joins. Which I did recently. Then we can't ask questions only post personal stories??
What if one has no contributions being their first visit to a country?
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Yes it is clear what your priorities are. I suggest the moderator moves this to "Manila. You do no know who you are talking to" thread.
[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1716655]Thats right. I just made time. And you can ask the guy who started at me with his "nothing"ness.[/QUOTE]
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Chicken and Egg
[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1716767]So if a new member joins. Which I did recently. Then we can't ask questions only post personal stories?? What if one has no contributions being their first visit to a country?[/QUOTE]As I type this I am somewhat distracted by a buxom lass gyrating her pelvis to the left. Just as well I am not typing this in a public place as I might have others drooling over my keyboard.
I don't mind newbies asking questions on this ISG forum, and not just by way of a personal message (=PM). I see it is a place for give and take. But I do expect a questioner to have done a little bit of research by going back a bit and reading the forum (=RTFF). To ask a question like "I have 24 hours in Manila, what should I do?" is for many of us a red rag to a bull because the Manila (and Makati) Forum is full of rich experiences and options. Ask specific questions by all means, and guys here are helpful with their time and response. But after "taking" the information we expect some "giving" in return by posting field reports.
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1 Night in Manila
I will be in Manila for the first time for a one night stop over. Spent some time reading the Manila and Makati boards, and I am looking for some guidance. I get into town at 4 pm, heading out the following noon. I want to set up a threesome with two good young, slim, good looking girls. Given that it is only one night, I am not cost sensitive. I tried setting up an account on the websites, too much of a hassle, and for one day, not worth the payback for the effort. I figure my options are Makati (Bottoms, High Heels, Bill Board, etc.), EDSA (Firehouse, Cotton Club), or maybe the KTVs (Asia Entertainment), which although pricey, seem to have some of the best talent. I have sort of ruled out LA Cafe, sounds like it is a bunch of fat old slappers. I am also thinking about Cafe Havana, but it sounds like it might be a bit hit or miss.
Any suggestions in terms of the best quality for young talent? I am not intimidated about negotiating cash for gash or dealing with bar girls. Thanks for your help.
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[QUOTE=KongKing;1716809]But I do expect a questioner to have done a little bit of research by going back a bit and reading the forum (=RTFF). To ask a question like "I have 24 hours in Manila, what should I do?" is for many of us a red rag to a bull because the Manila (and Makati) Forum is full of rich experiences and options. Ask specific questions by all means, and guys here are helpful with their time and response. But after "taking" the information we expect some "giving" in return by posting field reports.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1716257]Who said I was a "contributor" ?? [/QUOTE]He himself admits he won't be contributing.
[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1716767]So if a new member joins. Which I did recently. Then we can't ask questions only post personal stories?? What if one has no contributions being their first visit to a country?[/QUOTE]You have over a year of posts on the board. Please point us to all your previous contributions from the other places you visited.
To answer your question directly, contact the old guard in PM.
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Dead on
[QUOTE=Gonzo88;1716910]I will be in Manila for the first time for a one night stop over. Spent some time reading the Manila and Makati boards, and I am looking for some guidance. I get into town at 4 pm, heading out the following noon. I want to set up a threesome with two good young, slim, good looking girls. Given that it is only one night, I am not cost sensitive. I tried setting up an account on the websites, too much of a hassle, and for one day, not worth the payback for the effort. I figure my options are Makati (Bottoms, High Heels, Bill Board, etc.), EDSA (Firehouse, Cotton Club), or maybe the KTVs (Asia Entertainment), which although pricey, seem to have some of the best talent. I have sort of ruled out LA Cafe, sounds like it is a bunch of fat old slappers. I am also thinking about Cafe Havana, but it sounds like it might be a bit hit or miss.
Any suggestions in terms of the best quality for young talent? I am not intimidated about negotiating cash for gash or dealing with bar girls. Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]Gonzo,
Your assessment is dead on, Havana is hit and miss, a little more miss if you get there after eight, not a table left, as far as Malate (LACAfe) again correct, up until about 11 there isn't much there, however after 11 it does get better, but it is very crowded. Bottoms and the other on Burgos have quality, however it will cost you, plan on 4000 LT, then the drinks and something to eat, you will be in it 6000-7000 pesos, I have not been to EDSA, I plan on it this trip end of May, let me know how it went.
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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1716964]He himself admits he won't be contributing.
You have over a year of posts on the board. Please point us to all your previous contributions from the other places you visited.
To answer your question directly, contact the old guard in PM.[/QUOTE]Another member who has nothing else better to do then to check my profile history. FYI the posts in the manila thread are recent. Like last week.
Unlike yourself I don't log in every second of every day with thousands of posts over a year. But then again I didn't check your post history and could care less about your posting history.
I also NEVER said that I would never contribute. Please read correctly. How could I contribute yet if I haven't had any history in the place where Ill be going?? Kinda obvious.
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[QUOTE=Gonzo88;1716910]I will be in Manila for the first time for a one night stop over. Spent some time reading the Manila and Makati boards, and I am looking for some guidance. I get into town at 4 pm, heading out the following noon. I want to set up a threesome with two good young, slim, good looking girls. Given that it is only one night, I am not cost sensitive. I tried setting up an account on the websites, too much of a hassle, and for one day, not worth the payback for the effort. I figure my options are Makati (Bottoms, High Heels, Bill Board, etc.), EDSA (Firehouse, Cotton Club), or maybe the KTVs (Asia Entertainment), which although pricey, seem to have some of the best talent. I have sort of ruled out LA Cafe, sounds like it is a bunch of fat old slappers. I am also thinking about Cafe Havana, but it sounds like it might be a bit hit or miss.
Any suggestions in terms of the best quality for young talent? I am not intimidated about negotiating cash for gash or dealing with bar girls. Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]If this was me. I'd get a hotel near P Burgos. Get your base camp then go out and find your girls. It's in walking distance, so if you don't get what you want, the girls go home and you can go back hunting.
Try a theme room at Bellagio: [URL]http://royalbellagio.com/rooms.html[/URL].
Sit in the front bar, survey and wander.
Get a booked car to meet you so you don't waste time on Taxi at airport arrival.
Happy days.
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1 Night in Manila
[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1717134]If this was me. I'd get a hotel near P Burgos. Get your base camp then go out and find your girls. It's in walking distance, so if you don't get what you want, the girls go home and you can go back hunting.
Try a theme room at Bellagio: [URL]http://royalbellagio.com/rooms.html[/URL].
Sit in the front bar, survey and wander.
Get a booked car to meet you so you don't waste time on Taxi at airport arrival.
Happy days.[/QUOTE]Brain Drain,
Thanks for your advice man, I appreciate it and I will take it. Only thing is that I think I will stay down at the Peninsula or the Shangrila, I am not sure the theme rooms at the Belagio are my caper. It looks like it should only be a 5 minute ride in a taxi, no? Then, if it all goes terribly wrong, I can hit the green belt to try to pick up a free lancer from Cafe Havana. What do you reckon?
Thanks
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1 month in Manila
Hello,
Will be heading to Manila for 1 month as soon as my job concludes in August.
Will be renting an apartment around Ortagas. On my previous visits to Manila, I have stayed in Makati and most recently near Malate.
Was wondering how the Ortagas area was. What are some fun places to take a girl on a non expensive date in the area? Live band or something.
Most my expertise is from dance clubs. Looking forward to hitting up these places.
Malate. Exklusiv.
Makati. Palladium, 71 Gramercy, Black Market.
The Fort. Valkyrie, Prive.
Quezon City. Prime, Vanity, Excess.
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Paladium is not a big deal. I did not pay any cover charge since I was a New world customer. But the place is overpriced and almost no girls available. Also annoying bouncers.
[QUOTE=MedellinKuya;1717215]Hello,
Was wondering how the Ortagas area was. What are some fun places to take a girl on a non expensive date in the area? Live band or something.
Most my expertise is from dance clubs. Looking forward to hitting up these places.
Quezon City. Prime, Vanity, Excess.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MedellinKuya;1717215]Hello,
Will be heading to Manila for 1 month as soon as my job concludes in August.
Will be renting an apartment around Ortagas. On my previous visits to Manila, I have stayed in Makati and most recently near Malate.
Was wondering how the Ortagas area was. What are some fun places to take a girl on a non expensive date in the area? Live band or something.
Most my expertise is from dance clubs. Looking forward to hitting up these places.
Malate. Exklusiv.
Makati. Palladium, 71 Gramercy, Black Market.
The Fort. Valkyrie, Prive.
Quezon City. Prime, Vanity, Excess.[/QUOTE]I'm not a devotee of clubs, and usually find them loud, crowded and altogether nerves jangling. I did go the Paladium once and left after one drink as I couldn't hear my own voice, clef alone those of the folks I was with.
My office is in Ortigas, and while it's a safe and attractive area it doesn't appear to be to include a lot of fun venues. There are multiple malls, and a huge number of restaurants in the malls however in terms of stand alone places, I've not found many. My friend Red Kilt is far more familiar with the area than I and might disagree with this assessment.
GE.
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[QUOTE=Mbsl65;1717234]Paladium is not a big deal. I did not pay any cover charge since I was a New world customer. But the place is overpriced and almost no girls available. Also annoying bouncers.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is overpriced and I normally only go there with a girl on a date. If I am alone I go to other places in Malate or Quezon City.
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There is a disco at Burgos Street and some of the girls from Havana told me that they go there after Havana closes at 2:00 am. I have been there.
Once while it was very early (11:00 pm) but something to keep in mind.
I don't remember the name of the place but it is below the street level.
[QUOTE=MedellinKuya;1717571]Yes, it is overpriced and I normally only go there with a girl on a date. If I am alone I go to other places in Malate or Quezon City.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mbsl65;1717584]There is a disco at Burgos Street and some of the girls from Havana told me that they go there after Havana closes at 2:00 am. I have been there.
Once while it was very early (11:00 pm) but something to keep in mind.
I don't remember the name of the place but it is below the street level.[/QUOTE]It is called the Bronx if I am not mistaken. I haven't checked it out on previous trips, but I intend to check it out this time.
Should be an easy place to pull a freebie.
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[QUOTE=MedellinKuya;1717629]It is called the Bronx if I am not mistaken. I haven't checked it out on previous trips, but I intend to check it out this time.
Should be an easy place to pull a freebie.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure you would get a freebie as most girls in the place are working girls. Was once there at about 5 am and there was a girl passed out on a chair. The waiter was "interfering with her clothing" pretending to tidy up around her. I contacted a bouncer at the door and advised him what had happened. He woke the girl up and the waiter wasnt seen again that night.
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[QUOTE=MedellinKuya;1717629]It is called the Bronx if I am not mistaken. I haven't checked it out on previous trips, but I intend to check it out this time.
Should be an easy place to pull a freebie.[/QUOTE]I've passed the place several times and it's always been closed. I'm guessing it opens its doors fairly late; well past the bedtime of an old fellow like me. On another subject, and for those who don't know, there's a typhoon headed straight for Luzon, and it's predicted to affect Manila sometime tomorrow evening. If it brings heavy rains as it likely will, the action on Burgos could be--if you'll excuse the bad pun--dampened tomorrow night as many of the girls may not be able to get to the bars.
GE.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1717661]. . . On another subject, and for those who don't know, there's a typhoon headed straight for Luzon, and it's predicted to affect Manila sometime tomorrow evening. If it brings heavy rains as it likely will, the action on Burgos could be--if you'll excuse the bad pun--dampened tomorrow night as many of the girls may not be able to get to the bars.[/QUOTE]It's heading North-west and weakening.
[I]"independent weather monitoring group Weather Philippines said in its 1:30 am Friday bulletin that the typhoon will potentially make landfall "somewhere along the shores of Northern Aurora or Eastern Isabela" Monday morning, May 11".[/I]
Not likely to have much impact on Manila at all.
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[QUOTE=MedellinKuya;1717629]It is called the Bronx if I am not mistaken. I haven't checked it out on previous trips, but I intend to check it out this time.
Should be an easy place to pull a freebie.[/QUOTE]Real easy for freebies. Sometimes I get tired of being used so much, so I don't go as often. For a young, tall and handsome guy you won't need to bring any money. You can easily work the girls for free drinks too and then take them home.
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1717686]It's heading North-west and weakening.
[I]"independent weather monitoring group Weather Philippines said in its 1:30 am Friday bulletin that the typhoon will potentially make landfall "somewhere along the shores of Northern Aurora or Eastern Isabela" Monday morning, May 11".[/I]
Not likely to have much impact on Manila at all.[/QUOTE]Don't know RK, but I just read the latest update from the Joint Typhoon Warning Center and the way I read it, the possibility of heavy rains in Manila is fairly high.
GE.
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[QUOTE=Dg8787;1717694]Real easy for freebies.. For a young, tall and handsome guy you won't need to bring any money. You can easily work the girls for free drinks too and then take them home.[/QUOTE]Guys in Manila hustling working girls for free drinks. Got to laugh at some of the things that go on in Manila and some of the types that it attracts.
Do these great ladies get the honour of paying the taxi ride home too? LOL.
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Time??
After a good party at Gramercy71 a few months back we went to a place, discobar, in Burgos called TIME. There was a good mix of regular girls afterpartying and workinggirls. I brought my own "food" but seemed like a very easy place to hook up. Also located in a basement. Maybe they've changed name to Bronx now?
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1717661]I've passed the place several times and it's always been closed. I'm guessing it opens its doors fairly late; well past the bedtime of an old fellow like me. On another subject, and for those who don't know, there's a typhoon headed straight for Luzon, and it's predicted to affect Manila sometime tomorrow evening. If it brings heavy rains as it likely will, the action on Burgos could be--if you'll excuse the bad pun--dampened tomorrow night as many of the girls may not be able to get to the bars.
GE.[/QUOTE]I have been to the Bronx a few times upon arrival in Manila at 6 am and was able to pull some nice ones albeit drunken. The mama San had some big knockers.
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3 Months to go!
My vacation is getting close. I can almost smell it.
1 month in Manila followed by 1 month in Jakarta. Sweet Jesus.
Question, any place like Cebu's MO2 in Manila?
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Mamasan at Robinson Mall?
I finally made it back to the Philippines to do some mongering. I decided to go to Robinson's Mall to check it out. I've RTFF, but I didn't really figure out where to go, so I just wandered about for an hour or so. I was approached by a few definite girls wanting a date, but they were far too heavy for my liking. I decided to have a beer and sat right next to the glass window at the TGIF bar. I was looking around and an older lady was sitting at a joint right across fro TGIF definitely glued to what was going on at the front entrance. She saw me glancing at her and she picked up her phone a few minutes later, making a call and glancing my way. Within 15 minutes a gorgeous young girl in a blue and white striped dress showed up and sat at the table next to the old lady and immediately picked me out of the crowd. We flirted for a few minutes and she motioned for me to come to her, and I motioned for her to come into TGIFs. Within another 15-20 minutes, the table filled up with ladies who checked in with the older lady before sitting down. They were all watching the crowd. The young girl saw me take her picture and when I left, she made a bee line my way demanding I erase it. I showed her the screen and then dazzled her a bit so she'd think I erased it. So. Anyone seen anything like this before? Mamas an operation run out of the mall?
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[QUOTE=GreatExpecta;1718158]I finally made it back to the Philippines to do some mongering. I decided to go to Robinson's Mall to check it out. I've RTFF, but I didn't really figure out where to go, so I just wandered about for an hour or so. I was approached by a few definite girls wanting a date, but they were far too heavy for my liking. I decided to have a beer and sat right next to the glass window at the TGIF bar. I was looking around and an older lady was sitting at a joint right across fro TGIF definitely glued to what was going on at the front entrance. She saw me glancing at her and she picked up her phone a few minutes later, making a call and glancing my way. Within 15 minutes a gorgeous young girl in a blue and white striped dress showed up and sat at the table next to the old lady and immediately picked me out of the crowd. We flirted for a few minutes and she motioned for me to come to her, and I motioned for her to come into TGIFs. Within another 15-20 minutes, the table filled up with ladies who checked in with the older lady before sitting down. They were all watching the crowd. The young girl saw me take her picture and when I left, she made a bee line my way demanding I erase it. I showed her the screen and then dazzled her a bit so she'd think I erased it. So. Anyone seen anything like this before? Mamas an operation run out of the mall?[/QUOTE]Robinson's Malate?
This comes / goes over time. A few weeks ago I got hit on one night by a chub outside on Pedro Gil side by the mid-east resto on the corner of Adriatico. She had a chub friend with her, and they just chatted me up (no mention of going to my room, but I knew what they were up to). The next afternoon I run into the same chub on Adriatico, and she asks if she can walk with me. Sure. I was heading for some fast food. At Jollie she got on her phone and said she was calling a friend to come meet me. A few minutes later an older lady showed with a younger girl (also a chub) and we talked for a while in Jollie. I was convinced the older lady really was the aunt (not necessarily a mamasan). The aunt finally left me alone with the chubs. I took the chubs up to Silver Cross for a beer, THEN the girls finally suggested we go to the hotel.
I didn't have a desire for any sex at the moment, and had little desire for anything from either girl. They made the usual claims, they could make me happy, etc. I demured and left SC, only to see the girls walking as fast as they could to catch up to me. I re-iterated my non-interest, and one girl started going on about her 'financial' problems. I finally told them I'd be interested in some naked photos only (no sex), and offered a ridiculously low amount for 3 hours of their time in the room (and I mean ridiculously low). The chatty one looked distressed, like she'd been stabbed. She reiterated her financial needs list (about 5500 pesos of needs) and I shook my head NO. Finally they agreed and came with me. I was convinced the ridiculously low offer would send them walking away. So we hit the room and had a naked pics-only session (30 minutes or so). The quiet girl piped up with: "Why you don't give us 2000 each?" Um, because the younger, more pretty girls usually get that amount from me for LT, that's why. "But they say other guy give 2000. Or 3000. Like that". Yes, you girls tell wild tales to each other, and some guys give way to much. Honestly ladies you are near 30, are very overweight, and each have kids. Pretty girls in LA Cafe will get 2000 for a ST. You will not. Just being honest. You appear new to this. I could tell how new to this that they both were from their shyness level and they had to be told every exact thing of what I was asking them to do. "Yes my second time. Other guy give me 700 only. You giving less even". Yes ma'am. I gave them a bit more than they agreed upon and walked them out.
The next morning I'm sitting at Starbucks in Robinson's enjoying a latte (inside by the mall entrance, facing the atrium), about 11 am. One of the chub girls walked by, stared at me a moment, and started to approach. I held up my hand to stop her. She walked away towards the atrium. A moment later an older lady approached the chub. Then the other chub (from outside the mall a few nights ago who was with the first chub) arrived. Then a younger beauty (looks a bit like your girl in the striped dress GE) arrived. They just stood there, walking about aimlessly as a group, never getting more than a radius of 5 meters from their meetup spot). After 10 minutes they walked away, disappearing into the crowd, and were right back there 5 minutes later. They eyed every gringo walking past, keeping an eye on the entrance, clearly on the prowl.
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Palladium Night Club at New World Makati
Is this a good spot to find talent?
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[QUOTE=PGTour;1718235]Is this a good spot to find talent?[/QUOTE]Its decent.
What are you looking for specifically? Free lancers? Normal girls? How old are you?
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[QUOTE=PGTour;1718235]Is this a good spot to find talent?[/QUOTE]Do a search on it. If nothing comes up, go there and report it.
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[QUOTE=PGTour;1718235]Is this a good spot to find talent?[/QUOTE]I only saw groups of well heeled Filipinos and mixed couples. Place is very pricey for Makati standards. I had a women with me and my bill was very high since she kept drinking expensive cocktails.
If you have a woman with you, I recommend you to go there. Otherwise try other clubs.
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Huh
[QUOTE=Dg8787;1717694]Real easy for freebies. Sometimes I get tired of being used so much, so I don't go as often. For a young, tall and handsome guy you won't need to bring any money. You can easily work the girls for free drinks too and then take them home.[/QUOTE]WTF would a tall handsome and young guy be doing in the PI? Hell when I was tall, toung and handsome I didn't have to travel around the world for pussy LOLOL.
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Disagree
[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1707098]On one hand I agree, if the guy didn't like the prices then he should've kept his mouth shut and just left; pointless arguing with the waitresses anyhow as they don't set the prices and it's not like she's going to run to the owner to tell him they just lost a customer cause the beer prices too high, she was probably happy he left so she can return to playing games on her phone, lol.
OTH, we all need to keep in mind that there's many guys who live in the PI's who are on fixed gov pensions (and not all of them are old, plenty of young disabled vets) and need to be cheap out of necessity. If all you have is p35-50 K per month as an income then you tend to shop for the best values.
One I, don't take my post the wrong way, I'm not condemning you for yours, just trying to remind guys who read this board that not every foreigner you see is a "rich tourist". And, when comes to the girls, I fully agree with you that you should pay what you want and everyone else can take a flying leap. As long as you treat the girls well and they are happy with what you give them, then everyone else can fuck off.[/QUOTE]If you are talking about disabled vets living in the Phills on only 30-50 P a month that is BS, Number one, it would be nice if they were spending our tax dollars that we give them right here in the good old USA rather than drinking beers and chasing women on there "fixed budget"! Second, there are plenty of programs here in the USA for vets and disabled vets to have a great life, without chasing women and drinking all day.
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[QUOTE=Elmo5743;1718506]WTF would a tall handsome and young guy be doing in the PI? Hell when I was tall, toung and handsome I didn't have to travel around the world for pussy LOLOL.[/QUOTE]Even a tall handsome young guy is not going to be able to bang 7-14 cute attractive women in a week in any Western country.
Hell he would be doing great to get 1 new notch a week.
In addition, traveling and banging girls in Brazil, Philippines, Thailand, Colombia, Indonesia, Ukraine, Korea USA, Australia, UK.
For me personally, I am still banging girls in the range of 6-8 regardless of where I am in the world. Only difference is, in the Philippines and other countries I bang these girls on the first date with as little as nothing more than an ice cream bought. And sometimes I just invite them straight to my hotel to "swim" or "watch a movie". In America ID have to take these girls on numerous dates, deal with princess attitudes and other Western BS to maybe get a bang.
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FYI, our veterans earned every dime they get. While they brought us the freedom, they also got to freedom however they wish to live their lives.
[QUOTE=Elmo5743;1718516] Number one, it would be nice if they were spending our tax dollars that we give them right here in the good old USA rather than drinking beers and chasing women on there "fixed budget"! Second, there are plenty of programs here in the USA for vets and disabled vets to have a great life, without chasing women and drinking all day.[/QUOTE]
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Ummm
[QUOTE=Mbsl65;1718973]FYI, our veterans earned every dime they get. While they brought us the freedom, they also got to freedom however they wish to live their lives.[/QUOTE]Yeah I know and work with many Veterans that scam there checks from our taxpayers, not earned there disability!, without really even thinking about it, one guy I work with tore up his back while in the Army on a jet ski! He said he did it there, he has a full time job as a aircraft technician and gets 2000 per month from his supposed disability! Another coworker says he has a bad hip, it gets him 850 bucks a month, he works full time job also which is very physical, as a matter of fact he is going back to the VA to get more money cause he heard of the latest scam where you tell the VA you are having insomnia and it is worth another 225 bucks a month, you fueled jets in the military and got jet fuel on you, that is another 144 bucks a month and these guys brag about this crap! Another friend fell out of a helicopter, did a little damage to his back, no big deal but he is getting 950 bucks a month for life and owns his own termite and pest company which has him running up and down roofs, crawling under homes, up in attics etc etc! There are many many more scams, I don't have any problem with the soldiers that got torn up while "protecting" our freedom, hell we should take care of these guys, but for the yahoos that scam our taxpayers, or for the guys that shined the generals boots for 20 years, or was a janitor in the barrocks retired at 38 only to go live in the Phills and chase women, drink and complain is utterly BS, So when you preach our veterans earned "every dime they get protecting freedom" that is a very small few in the military.
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Politics or women?
[QUOTE=Elmo5743;1718516]If you are talking about disabled vets living in the Phills on only 30-50 P a month that is BS, Number one, it would be nice if they were spending our tax dollars that we give them right here in the good old USA rather than drinking beers and chasing women on there "fixed budget"! Second, there are plenty of programs here in the USA for vets and disabled vets to have a great life, without chasing women and drinking all day.[/QUOTE]And, it would be nice if American companies kept jobs in this country, for American workers to earn a living and pay MORE taxes in this country instead of farming out the labor to cheap Asian countries.
And, people in Hell want ice water.
And, I am a disabled vet and I am looking to retire in Thailand, PI, or anywhere else I choose. Geez, take it easy.
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[QUOTE=MrHawaii;1719016]And, it would be nice if American companies kept jobs in this country, for American workers to earn a living and pay MORE taxes in this country instead of farming out the labor to cheap Asian countries.
And, people in Hell want ice water.
And, I am a disabled vet and I am looking to retire in Thailand, PI, or anywhere else I choose. Geez, take it easy.[/QUOTE]And, the Congress has done everything in its power to reduce benefits for veterans. What right does anyone have to tell these guys where they should live?
GE.
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[QUOTE=Elmo5743;1718983]There are many many more scams, for the guys that shined the generals boots for 20 years, or was a janitor in the barrocks retired at 38 only to go live in the Phills and chase women, drink and complain is utterly BS, So when you preach our veterans earned "every dime they get protecting freedom" that is a very small few in the military.[/QUOTE]Elmo,
You are visiting the Philippines end May so why bother to come an chase pussy of you criticize those who do Stay where ever you are and play with yourself instead as clearly you won't have fun in the Philippines LOL.
Secondly, as others have said they can spend what they like where they like.
Thirdly you sound angry that you can't join the scams. Now if you are a law abiding US citizen should you not report all these scams so the cash goes to those who truly deserve.
Finally and just an observation guys but why is it many of those who visit the PI board to be antagonistic come from South America? Odd that but there have been quite a few in the past, seems they need another board to play with.
Post all the FRs please Elmo as we are dying to read how boring and terrible PI is or not LOL.
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Day one in Manila
I had been planning a trip to Manila and Subic Bay for over two months. As usual, I RTFF to get updates, etc. And started emailing women on CL a month out to start getting contacts. I did run across a few 'free' postings on CL, but so many of them wanted 3000-5000 pesos for a ST / LT.
My flight landed an hour late and by the time I checked in at the Heritage Hotel across from EDSA, I was just thirsty and horny. I unpacked, got situated and ventured across the street to the EDSA complex. I took my time scanning the girls in each club and had a few cold ones to take the travel edge off. I didn't want to chose quickly, as you never know what's in the next club. Sure enough, when I got to the Cotton Club, I ran in to a gorgeous and sexy young woman named Syro. She wasn't in a two piece suit dancing around and was fully clothed and just walking the bar floor area. We locked eyes, grabbed a seat, chatted up and I eventually bought her a drink to talk business. It was then 11 pm at night. She told me the bar fine was 1,950 pesos and she got 3,000 for ST or 5,000 for LT. I let it rest while we finished our drinks and after a while she asked if I was going to take her home with me. I asked her what happens if you leave for a ST and never come back?? After all, it was closing in on 1130 pm and the bar closed at 2 am. We flirted around for a while and she decided she'd take me up on my offer for LT for 3,000.
She said she was 23 yrs old and had one kid. When we got back to the room, she immediately took her pants off and started fondling my cock through my shorts telling me she wanted to fuck long and hard and jumped on the bed to entice me. I wondered why she wasn't in a swim suit like the other girls, but after getting in the shower I knew it was because she had a little baby tummy still there and her boobs weren't the perky ones on an 18 yr old. That's OK. She made up for it in bed and she was an aggressive kisser and knew exactly what she wanted in bed. I opened up the night stand drawer to reveal a host of vibrators I brought along and that was all she wrote, as she latched onto those and didn't let them go the rest of the night. She said she had never had a vibrator on her clit and she absolutely loved it!!
We fucked and sucked in positions I had forgotten about and finally fell asleep, but as soon as we woke up, we started all over again. She wasn't into anal, but I managed to get over that and enjoyed my time. This woman knew what she was doing and loved every minute of it. I got her cell before she left and probably should have kept her for another day or so. But you just don't know what is behind the next door you open.
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Guys,
This does not belong here. And do respect the Vets. Whether they scam or not, it is not our business. There are a lot of responsible people among their ranks who will bring it to the open, if needs to be brought to the open. Leave it alone. This is NOT a place to drag them through!. You have issues, write to your senators. Not here.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1719083]And, the Congress has done everything in its power to reduce benefits for veterans. What right does anyone have to tell these guys where they should live?
GE[/QUOTE]
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Best open Air Bars or Bestro?
Wondering what you guys thought were the best open air bars, bestros, or live music venues in Manila.
Thanks
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She is a fine looking lady Great Expecta and thanks for sharing.
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[QUOTE=Elmo5743;1718983].[/QUOTE]There is a problem in every community. However exceptions don't make the rules. Assuming, you never served for US Armed forces, you can cease bad mouthing them.
You are offending me, as a decorated war veteran. Just enjoy your life and freedom while you show show some respect who delivered them to you. $0. 02.
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[QUOTE=MedellinKuya;1721720]Wondering what you guys thought were the best open air bars, bestros, or live music venues in Manila.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Havana Cafe, Greenbelt / Makati. There's usually live band inside the cafe. Next door is a Starbucks. In Malate there is Bellagio Square half a block south from Robinson's Place Mall, on Bocobo Street. They often have live band outdoors in a small strip mall that is populated with indoor / outdoor resto / bars.
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Day Two in Manila
I scrolled though CL looking for a 3-holer and ran across Grace advertising for ST 3000-5000 pesos for all three holes. She posts in CL and Backpage. Pretty simple to hit her up and she came to the hotel at an agreed upon time. For a little truth in advertising, she did mention she was a BBW in her ad. I'm thinking what could a BBW possibly look like in PI and her pics made her out to be fairly slim. I asked for more pics via text and email and she sent a few more that were strategically taken of course to hide curves. I met her out in front of the hotel and I quickly saw she was a fucking amazon for PI standards, standing about five eight, 150 lbs, and no. Surprise, surprise, those weren't her pics. We went up the room anyway, got in the shower and cleaned up for playtime. After a little mutual oral, I rolled her over and buried my cock balls deep in her ass. It went in so easy, I had to look down to make sure I was in her ass. Definitely not her first backdoor rodeo. I came after about ten minutes and she adjourned to a chair to start texting. I surveyed her again naked and told her to just go home and that I was tired from the trip. I would have loved to have found a 3-holing spinner, but not this trip. This is a link to her post on CL.
[URL]http://manila.en.craigslist.com.ph/cas/5018064150.html[/URL]
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Day Three in Manila
I decided to catch a cab and ventured over to LA Caf to check it out Friday afternoon around 12 pm. It had been 2-3 years since I had been there and I remembered pulling out so pretty good amateur talent in previous visits. After brushing off the initial onslaught of advances when I first arrived, I got a beer and sat back by the pool table to survey the crowd. I noticed this very attractive older woman staring at me off and on. Her name was Joana and she was about five four, 115 lbs, nice face and rack. I motioned for her to come over and I bought her a drink, as she was overtly nervous and kept looking around as if she thought someone may catch her trolling around. We did a few shots and she loosened up a little, agreeing to go back to my place at EDSA. During the conversation she said she was an unemployed party planner and had been out of work for about three months. Once in the room, I poured another round of drinks and recommended we take a shower. Next thing I knew she was in the bathroom with the door locked in the shower. A definite amateur. We played around for a few hours and she freaked when I pulled out my camera for a few nude shots. She settled on a faceless pic that captured right as she screamed during an orgasm. There was no mention of money at anytime and I gave her 3,000 pesos, as I was nearly certain she was truly down and out and not wanting to just get laid.
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[QUOTE=PGTour;1718235]Is this a good spot to find talent?[/QUOTE]It's OK. If you're staying in New World, there is no entrance fee.
Otherwise, I believe it's 600 PHP (haven't been there in a while).
Don't go before midnight. Lot of freelancers. Can also find freebies there.
If you make friends with a promoter, she / or he will introduce you to a ton of different women.
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[QUOTE=MedellinKuya;1721720]Wondering what you guys thought were the best open air bars, bestros, or live music venues in Manila.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Adding to WC's comment check out the Cowboy Grill (two locations in Manila City) and Calle 5 (near G-Point). Near MOA is the open air Blue Wave, and across the street from MOA is The Roadhouse. Of all mentioned so far I think Cowboy Grill gets the best talent, and the one on Remedios in Malate is better than the other in Ermita since it's smaller. A fun show to check out is the Mocha Girls at Cowboy Grill; they appear weekly. You can see clips of their shows on youtube. A legendary band to catch live is Aegus.
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Where to stay?
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1721943]Adding to WC's comment check out the Cowboy Grill (two locations in Manila City) and Calle 5 (near G-Point). Near MOA is the open air Blue Wave, and across the street from MOA is The Roadhouse. Of all mentioned so far I think Cowboy Grill gets the best talent, and the one on Remedios in Malate is better than the other in Ermita since it's smaller. A fun show to check out is the Mocha Girls at Cowboy Grill; they appear weekly. You can see clips of their shows on youtube. A legendary band to catch live is Aegus.[/QUOTE]Thanks, you guys seem to mention all the places I already knew. LOL Anyways, I am hesitant to being girls I meet online and through friends to Malate. In the past some girls have raised their eyebrow when I invited them to meet me in Malate and go to Exklusiv or something.
I have 2 apartment options for my trip that I found on Airbnb in the 500-650 price range.
1) Knightsbridge Apartment Complex in Century City Makati.
Cons. Sofa Bed, Seems to be a 5-10 minute walk to mall / supermarket, 150 dollars more expensive.
Pros. Very posh, great balcony view, roof deck.
2) Lights Residencies in Mandaluyong.
Cons. Not has nice.
Pros. Convenience being right on top of Lights Mall with everything you need without going outside, Transport options right outside of Boni MRT and EDSA, 150 dollars cheaper, Balcony also.
Not sure which one to go with. Leaning option 2 for price and convenience. Although, option one is a panty dropper for sure. And those views.
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Priority Meet list in Manila
Making a "Priority Meet List" on Facebook for when I go to Manila. Already have a Manila list with over 150 girls on it.
My Priority List is getting large also, especially for only a 1 month stay. Not sure ill be able to meet all the girls.
Here is the newest 18 year old edition to the list today. I have so many young attractive 7-8's to meet it is crazy.
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[QUOTE=MedellinKuya;1722142]I have so many young attractive 7-8's to meet it is crazy.[/QUOTE]Get in line. Its easy to rack up phone numbers from internet girls online. Getting them into bed is a different story. Many will cancel or ignore you once you're there, so keep the list large.
[QUOTE=MedellinKuya;1722142]Here is the newest 18 year old edition to the list today.[/QUOTE]She (and her family) will be thrilled to know you have posted her face on a sex site.
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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1722188]
She (and her family) will be thrilled to know you have posted her face on a sex site.[/QUOTE]Plus her employer.
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[QUOTE=GreatExpecta;1721826] I would have loved to have found a 3-holing spinner, but not this trip. This is a link to her post on CL.
[URL]http://manila.en.craigslist.com.ph/cas/5018064150.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Backdoor doesn't seem to be a popular choice for the girls of Pi.
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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1722188]Get in line. Its easy to rack up phone numbers from internet girls online. Getting them into bed is a different story. Many will cancel or ignore you once you're there, so keep the list large.
She (and her family) will be thrilled to know you have posted her face on a sex site.[/QUOTE]I've had numerous trips to Philippines. Getting them all in bed on the 1st night is about a forgone conclusion. Maybe helps I am mid-late 20's.
The only problem I've experienced is not having enough time to meet them all and being spotted out and about with a new girl from previous girls.
God bless the Philippines.
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[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1722191]Plus her employer.[/QUOTE]Plus her kuya with a knife.
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To be honest, it's not easy adding girls online. Not for me anyways. It is very time consuming.
I have to browse a ton of girls just to find some to send a message to. To give you an example. For this upcoming trip, I've browsed well over 8,000 girls and only found / sent messages to 150 of them.
That is like. 00004% of girls that ID rate as a 7+ or a 6 with a nice smile and big tits.
The hard work def pays off though. I've been fortunate enough to bang some really nice girls after a night out of dancing and drinking.
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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1722188]Get in line. Its easy to rack up phone numbers from internet girls online. Getting them into bed is a different story. Many will cancel or ignore you once you're there, so keep the list large.
She (and her family) will be thrilled to know you have posted her face on a sex site.[/QUOTE]She is a promo girl Westie but Globe will love the added attention and PR am sure LOL.
And she looks familiar to one I have seen in Cebu (plenty Globe promos there at the weekend) and on Facebook.
So I would suggest that the photo is taken down.
Another from South America? If so what is it about that region, something in the water makes them post those pics on a sex forum?
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Knightsbridge Residences, Century City, Makati
Just book a one month stay at the Knightsbridge Residences in Century City Makati. Its a clean modern big studio with a slamming view and balcony. I got it for 650 dollars (20 dollars a night) which seems like a good price.
Has anyone stayed at this place before? I am having some doubts about whether or not I made the right choice.
1) It doesn't have a real bed. Uses a folded out futon / sofa bed. Supposedly it is on the firmer side and not that bad. I asked someone who stayed in an identical unit and none of the reviews complained about the bed / comfort. Nonetheless, I still have my doubts. I am thinking about buying a double sized memory foam / latex topper and putting it on the sofa bed. Can I pick a decent one up for around 100 dollars? If so where?
2) There is a lot of construction going on around and on the apartment complex. Seems it will be noisy.
3) Due to the construction, the pool is only open starting at 5 pm on week days. I think I heard it will last until August / September which is around the time I am going.
4) Area is probably a little too upscale for my tastes.
There is Century City Mall and A Venue mall within a short walking distance. Seems it will take about 25 minutes to walk to Greenbelt / Ayala. Burgos St. Is a few blocks over. Although I will not be taking any girls from there, but might be fun to go walk around before or after a night out and see what happens.
I am hoping there is another entrance to this place. I feel uncomfortable walking into and past the lobby every night around 2-4 am with a different girl esp if its girls at the front desk.
Fuck, 3 more months of work until heaven.
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[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1722672]She is a promo girl Westie but Globe will love the added attention and PR am sure LOL.
And she looks familiar to one I have seen in Cebu (plenty Globe promos there at the weekend) and on Facebook.
So I would suggest that the photo is taken down.
Another from South America? If so what is it about that region, something in the water makes them post those pics on a sex forum?[/QUOTE]Probably the same girl, she is from Cebu if I am not mistaken. The mod's can take down the photo. Although, if left up I doubt she or anyone she knows will see it.
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[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1722672]She is a promo girl Westie but Globe will love the added attention and PR am sure LOL.
And she looks familiar to one I have seen in Cebu (plenty Globe promos there at the weekend) and on Facebook.
So I would suggest that the photo is taken down.[/QUOTE]Don't understand why you suggest the photo be deleted. Working as promo girl, she realizes that many pics will be taken and posted where ever! It comes with the territory!
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[QUOTE=MedellinKuya;1722943]Just book a one month stay at the Knightsbridge Residences in Century City Makati. Its a clean modern big studio with a slamming view and balcony. I got it for 650 dollars (20 dollars a night) which seems like a good price.
Has anyone stayed at this place before? I am having some doubts about whether or not I made the right choice.
[/QUOTE]You should repost in the Manila Hotels thread. Probably not a good idea to pay for one month hotel stay sight unseen! What might be adequate for one person, might not be for you.
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Sitting in a filthy coffee shop in Terminal 3, the least bad of all the terminals. The flight announcement boards aren't working (and haven't for at least 3 weeks), the people movers are (as usual) not working, and I've got to take a bus to my plane that will, inevitably, depart late. Flights are arriving late, gate changes occur frequently, the air con is barely working and there are more passengers than seats. This reminds me of nothing so much as some of the worst airports in Africa. What a hole!
GE.
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Time
[QUOTE=Skogis;1717761]After a good party at Gramercy71 a few months back we went to a place, discobar, in Burgos called TIME. There was a good mix of regular girls afterpartying and workinggirls. I brought my own "food" but seemed like a very easy place to hook up. Also located in a basement. Maybe they've changed name to Bronx now?[/QUOTE]I was in Makati early May on a Friday night. I went into Time around 1 am but we were the only ones inside. Doorman said come back about 3-4 am when it'll be busier. That's way too late for me. I prefer to be in bed by then with a girl.
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[QUOTE=PGTour;1718235]Is this a good spot to find talent?[/QUOTE]I visited this club on a Saturday night early May I think around 1 am. From what I saw, you get girls going in there from Café Havana who haven't yet found their customer for the night yet. I paid 500 p entrance and you can order 1 drink with that too. Girls get to go inside for free. It wasn't very busy for a Sat night which surprised me. 1 girl quoted 200 usd for sex but wouldn't stay the night because she wanted to see the Floyd / Manny boxing match in the morning. Of course I refused that ridiculous offer. She wasn't worth that anyway. Later after an hour I saw her walking out with some other guy.
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[QUOTE=BukoMax;1723776]You should repost in the Manila Hotels thread. Probably not a good idea to pay for one month hotel stay sight unseen! What might be adequate for one person, might not be for you.[/QUOTE]This is not a hotel. Its an apartment which gets booked 1-2 months in advanced. Hotels cost way too much especially for someone staying 1-2 months. I read the reviews and seen the pictures and know about the building.
Should be good to go.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1717761]After a good party at Gramercy71 a few months back we went to a place, discobar, in Burgos called TIME. There was a good mix of regular girls afterpartying and workinggirls. I brought my own "food" but seemed like a very easy place to hook up. Also located in a basement. Maybe they've changed name to Bronx now?[/QUOTE]I didn't think Time was on Burgos. Are you talking about Bronx?
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Layover Action
I have a 10 hour Layover in Manila, would appreciate any advise on quick action possibilities. Don't want to stray too far away from airport to leave some relaxing time as I have a flight & a meeting ahead.
Much appreciate any pointers / advice.
Cheers. ZFM.
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It seems like this was just answered a few pages back. Go to Star Fleet in Paranaque if you want to stay near airport. Otherwise go to Malate and LA Cafe. Geez.
[QUOTE=ZucrForMassage;1724869]I have a 10 hour Layover in Manila, would appreciate any advise on quick action possibilities. Don't want to stray too far away from airport to leave some relaxing time as I have a flight & a meeting ahead.
Much appreciate any pointers / advice.
Cheers. ZFM.[/QUOTE].
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LA Cafe
[QUOTE=ZucrForMassage;1724869]I have a 10 hour Layover in Manila, would appreciate any advise on quick action possibilities. Don't want to stray too far away from airport to leave some relaxing time as I have a flight & a meeting ahead.
Much appreciate any pointers / advice.
Cheers. ZFM.[/QUOTE]Depends on what your budget is. If you can afford $170, book a room at the Diamond Hotel in Ermita. This is a girl friendly 5 star hotel and they check girls ID before she goes up. Then walk 300 m down the road to LA Cafe and you will pick up a girl within 3 minutes flat. The rate for ST with a freelancer should be around 2 - 2. 5 K. Then take her to the room and fuck her brains out before kicking her out. You can relax at this beautiful hotel, go for a swim and have a nice meal before taking the cab back to NAIA.
If your budget is limited, Pasay City has a number of short time stay hotels at around PHP 1000 for 6 hours. LA Cafe is then a short cab ride away. Pasay to NAIA is not far.
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Layover action & LA Cafe
Thanks the cups & ED for your comments.
Diamond hotel / LA caffe combo sounds good, a 10 hour layover now looks nice, I have been fussing over the itinerary. .
Will update on how it goes.
Cheers. ZFM.
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Diamond
Can't beat the place for the area it's in. There are less expensive options close to LA, but Diamond is at the top of the heap.
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Summer Break
[B]April 25 (Day 2: Saturday) Continued from Singapore.
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We landed on time in Manila at 6. 30 pm. Luggage took some time as 3 flights had landed at the same time causing too much crowd near the belt. I scouted for a Smart Sim card which I would be using extensively over the next 8 days but couldn't find one. We had landed at Terminal 2. Globe was available and in retrospect I should have picked that carrier.
Taxi wait time was an hour before we were on way to Century Park Hotel (CPH) in Ocampo Street. We had booked 3 nights there. The hotel was pretty good, a tad expensive but worth it. Thought behind this was that we could head out to MBC, P Burgos Street and EDSA on each one of the nights conveniently. There was a signboard at the reception which said that all guests had to leave by 10 pm. This got me slightly worried as it was 9. 30 pm by the time we had checked in but it never impacted us on any of the nights. Luckily CPH has a second entrance from the Harrison Plaza side and majority of the cabbies drop you there. Easier to access for them I guess. Works well for me. This way I avoid the reception desk completely.
We hit LA Cafe at approx. 11 pm. Enroute I got myself a Smart Sim from a 7/11 with Always On 499 peso 30 day 1. 5 GB internet plan. There was decent talent inside as we walked in. The waitress vacated two girls from their seats near the bar and seated us. We finished a SML scouting for potential night partners not letting HI's and Hello's from the mature ones distract us. We decided to check the bar upstairs. Entrance was 100 pesos. Big mistake. Not many girls there, finished a SML listening to few rock songs played on our request by the live band. Place was occupied by Korean and Japanese men and they had some pretty girls accompanying them. We came back downstairs and got another SML. Eyeing around one girl got my gaze and I smiled at her. She was by my side in seconds and I got a drink for her. Her name was Miles. Cris in the meantime had identified his girl. We closed on 3000 pesos for LT. We decided to move out of the place as it was 2 am but we wanted to party a bit more. I asked Miles if she could take us to a good disco around. We hailed a cab and went to Club ZZXYZ. Whatever. Cab fare henceforth for short journeys was 100 pesos flat and the girls stayed quiet like Thai girls letting their brethren fleece us. The club was a Korean joint with some really pretty girls hanging around. EDM got us in the mood. We got ourselves a table with seating that cost us 1500 Pesos (redeemable with drinks and finger food up to that value and would need to pay more if we exceeded). I liked this model unlike Insomnia in Pattaya where you get a table only if you avail bottle service. We shook our booty for some time with the girls and were back to CPH. This is when I found out about the alternate entrance which bypasses the reception and takes us straight to the lift through an escalator. The girl's ID is checked and noted in the register at the entrance and a call is made to us the morning when the girl is leaving.
I went to bed with Miles by 4 am. We showered by turn. Miles was around 4' 10" had good be sized breast but had scar marks all over her belly. Single mother. It was too late now and I had to get a pop. Session with her included BBBJ and DFK, started in miss and finished in doggy. Slept after that. Was woken up by her bathroom visit in the afternoon, had another session with her. We wanted to check Robinson's mall and also get the 4 G plan activated at the SMART store there. Let her go with 200 peso tip as I couldn't take her for breakfast. We had overslept.
Overall experience 6. 5/10.
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Summer Break
[B]April 26 (Day 3: Sunday)
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We got to Robinsons mall by cab, got ourselves some food. I went to the SMART store wherein the front desk guy told me that I had bought a 3 G plan and 4 G plan can be activated only when I finish 1. 5 GB data. What a waste of money. Came back to Hotel and spend some time lazing around and enjoying the JD we had brought with us. Plan was to hit P Burgos Street that night. We started by 11 pm from CPH to P Burgos, got there in 20 minutes. First bar was Rogues. Place looked empty. It seemed that we were quite late. Got ourselves a SML, played Pool but not a single girl in sight to barfine.
We went to Bottoms Up and there was some crowd inside. Settled down for another SML. Few topless women dancing and moving around but nothing too fancy to barfine. We packed up and decide to go to Havana caf at Greenbelt 3 and further on to LA Cafe as we could always find someone there. We reached Havana by 1 am. Live band playing and lot of people dancing all around. Got ourselves two cans of Heineken. This place was Cougar town. Within minutes we had two cougars hitting us up which we politely declined to share our table with. I went out to smoke and check the talent outside but most of the women were already accompanied. There were simply no girls there and even If we would have been desperate we were in no mood for cougars. We decided to move on to LA Cafe.
We reached by LA Cafe and got ourselves seated. Some women from last night were hanging around. Saw Miles seated in a corner, smiled to her and she smiled back but she maintained her distance sensing that I was a man butterfly and was on to the next girl for the night. We hung around for another hour but nothing caught mine or Cris's fancy. We called it a night thinking we still had 1 more night in Manila and 5 nights coming up in AC.
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Summer Break
[B]April 27 (Day 4: Monday)
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We went to Mall of Asia in the Afternoon, got some food and hung around for some time. I connected to a girl on WeChat and she wanted 6000 pesos for few hours. Ignored her. Social media apps had not been useful for me in the past 3 days in Manila. Some initial chats but nothing concrete materialized.
We had few shots of JD in the room and headed out to EDSA. We went to Firehouse first, average talent, nothing caught our fancy, finished our SML and went to Cotton Club. As soon as I was seated a PYT smiled at me and I called her over. Her name was J (name withheld as she's in regular touch with me now) surely one of the beautiful girls amongst the few present there. We clicked instantly. I got her a lady drink and myself a shoulder massage along with SML. I saw one good looking gal and told Cris to call her over. I also asked the massage lady whether she could get someone to call her. The massage lady told us that the girl only went with Japanese clients. She was not interested in men of other race. Cris didn't find anyone else interesting there so we decided to hit MBC again. I barfined J, paid 1950 peso BF and 3000 peso for LT and tipped 100 peso to the lady masseuse. Overall a bit expensive. We went to LA Cafe. Got ourselves seated. Cris found his girl within minutes of arriving there. J was very sweet and caring and was offering me the GFE I wanted. We spent an hour or so there and decided to move on to a disco. We took a cab to Club Exclusiv, paid 100 pesos for the short ride. Another Korean joint. Not much crowd inside so we moved back to Club ZZXYZ which was across the street. Got ourselves a table and had few drinks. There were some real good looking girls inside but seemed more focused on the Korean men present there. I would not suggest this place for a pickup unless you are Korean or a person with some great pickup skills. We danced and drank till 4 am and decided to head back to hotel as we had to check out at 12 and drive to AC. We retired to our room and got ourselves a shower. J is approx. 5"1" or 2", be sized breasts decent body but great attitude. She was amazing in bed and was open for all sort of naughty play. Didn't try anal though. Excellent DFK and decent BBBJ. Rare combination of good looks and naughtiness in bed. I was satiated. We went to sleep with me thinking about a good pop in the morning. I was woken up by Jsaying that there was a problem. Dazed and confused from sleep I asked her what happened. Was it checkout time. Fortunately it was 10 am but she had got her period. That very sentence killed my mood. I asked her to go home, tipped her 200 pesos. Got her digits and added her on fb. Maybe it was destiny that I could only enjoy 1 pop with her. She left with a very sorry face apologizing but nothing that we could do about it but promise to meet her next time.
Overall experience 8/10.
I had taken the number of a Private Taxi guy from senior forum member "Good Enough". I had sent a text to Taxi guy the previous evening to pick us up and drop to Lewis Grand Hotel in AC where we were booked for 5 nights. He arrived on time in a spanking new Toyota Altis. We paid him 2600 pesos for the drive up to AC. No tips.
Continued in AC thread...
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[QUOTE=Slippery;1725105]There are less expensive options close to LA, but Diamond is at the top of the heap.[/QUOTE]The Diamond hotel is quite nice as in 4. 5* hotel. I have always found rate discounts at around $100/ night on Agoda / Bookingdotcom ect. Shop around. Don't pay the rack rate.
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So, Dollhouse is the place to go for model-tier girls?
How much do they run per night?
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Robinson Place Mall, Ermita
I can confirm it's very easy to pick up a girl at Robinson Mall, Ermita for ST action. I was approached twice at the entrance to the mall before going to the security line. I walked straight past one girl and the other one looked unclean and untidy so I said no. Inside the mall, within a few minutes a girl smiled, but I was on a mission to get something so smiled back and kept walking. About half-an-hour later another MILF in her 30's makes eye contact and smiles. I invited her over and bought her a bubble cup coconut drink. We got talking and she said 2,500 for ST. I said let's make it 2,000 and she agreed. So off we go to the Diamond Hotel at 12.00 noon and get down to business. Service was quite mechanical and with none of the passion or enthusiasm I was expecting (after being spoiled in AC). She showered at the start, but there was a bit of mucus discharge in her pussy, so I passed on DATY. But it wasn't too bad overall. DFK, CBJ and came doggie while playing with her A cup tits. We showered again and she was out by 12.40 pm. She asked me if I wanted a companion for the next day, but I said I was leaving that evening.
If you don't want to go to LA Cafe and be forced to drink one more SML and fight off the back massage bandits, then Robinson is an option but with limited choice.
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[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1727627]I can confirm it's very easy to pick up a girl at Robinson Mall, Ermita for ST action. I was approached twice at the entrance to the mall before going to the security line. I walked straight past one girl and the other one looked unclean and untidy so I said no. Inside the mall, within a few minutes a girl smiled, but I was on a mission to get something so smiled back and kept walking. About half-an-hour later another MILF in her 30's makes eye contact and smiles. I invited her over and bought her a bubble cup coconut drink. We got talking and she said 2,500 for ST. I said let's make it 2,000 and she agreed. So off we go to the Diamond Hotel at 12.00 noon and get down to business. Service was quite mechanical and with none of the passion or enthusiasm I was expecting (after being spoiled in AC). She showered at the start, but there was a bit of mucus discharge in her pussy, so I passed on DATY. But it wasn't too bad overall. DFK, CBJ and came doggie while playing with her A cup tits. We showered again and she was out by 12.40 pm. She asked me if I wanted a companion for the next day, but I said I was leaving that evening.
If you don't want to go to LA Cafe and be forced to drink one more SML and fight off the back massage bandits, then Robinson is an option but with limited choice.[/QUOTE]Was there on Wednesday and was approached no less than 6 times in 45 minutes. One literally chasing me down "Excuse me sir, excuse me sir, excuse me sir. " I'm at Harrison more often than Robinson's since Harrison is a short walk away. In about 40 times at Harrison, I've been approached only once.
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Aloha,
Bit of advice if possible. I have a return cheap flight to Manila coming up but looking online seems that the place is a shit hole.
Been to Thailand about 20 times in the last few years. Should I just skip going to PI and get a flight from there to BKK and go Pattaya?
Hotels seem so expensive in PI compared to Pattaya. Plus being in Manila before I felt relatively unsafe most places I went.
I've read its harder to find a hot girl, in AC anyway. So what would be best, just go to pattaya and leave PI?
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[QUOTE=Aussieswine;1727815]Aloha,
Bit of advice if possible. I have a return cheap flight to Manila coming up but looking online seems that the place is a shit hole.
Been to Thailand about 20 times in the last few years. Should I just skip going to PI and get a flight from there to BKK and go Pattaya?
Hotels seem so expensive in PI compared to Pattaya. Plus being in Manila before I felt relatively unsafe most places I went.
I've read its harder to find a hot girl, in AC anyway. So what would be best, just go to pattaya and leave PI?[/QUOTE]Be safe, go to Patts.
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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1727908]Be safe, go to Patts.[/QUOTE]Yep. Best to play it safe. Aloha.
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Have a nice trip!
[QUOTE=Aussieswine;1727815]Aloha,
I've read its harder to find a hot girl, in AC anyway. So what would be best, just go to pattaya and leave PI?[/QUOTE]Agree. . . With you and with the other advice. . . You seem to have developed a few preconceptions of what you will expect to find here in the Philippines.
Enjoy your stay in Thailand (Pattaya).
I don't have 20 trips to Pattaya under my belt (only 1 actually) but I do have the Phils experience.
I think the GFE and cute Filipinas who speak English are why I like it here. Except for 1 short time "stunner" on my last night in Thailand, I would say there wasn't much difference in performance from the average girls (LOL).
Now. . . . I did get to ride an elephant in Thailand. . . Something I can't do here in Phils.
Munch.
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[QUOTE=CaptMunch;1727962]Now. . . . I did get to ride an elephant in Thailand. . . Something I can't do here in Phils.
Munch.[/QUOTE]Just hang around Jolliebee.
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[QUOTE=Aussieswine;1727815]Aloha,
Bit of advice if possible. I have a return cheap flight to Manila coming up but looking online seems that the place is a shit hole.
Been to Thailand about 20 times in the last few years. Should I just skip going to PI and get a flight from there to BKK and go Pattaya?
Hotels seem so expensive in PI compared to Pattaya. Plus being in Manila before I felt relatively unsafe most places I went.
I've read its harder to find a hot girl, in AC anyway. So what would be best, just go to pattaya and leave PI?[/QUOTE]You asked the same question in 2011 (you first of the 2 FRs you have 'contributed' here).
So stay wherever you are as clearly you don't want to live in a shit hole with expensive hotels, lots of noise, lots of expats (many with tattoos) and feeling very unsafe.
But that describes Pattaya for me LOL so stay in Oz as clearly you prefer the wilder side of life there.
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AC is not for you
[QUOTE=Aussieswine;1727815]Aloha,
I've read its harder to find a hot girl, in AC anyway. So what would be best, just go to pattaya and leave PI?[/QUOTE]Yeah, it's very hard to find a hot girl in AC. You only trip over them every three meters or so! How many hot babes do you need? Can you fuck more than two a night?
As WR has pointed out, I think you'd be better to stay in nice safe Australia, with its cheap hotels and beautiful white 40 year old MILFs. I think Manila and AC would be too scary for you and the women would be too ugly by your standards.
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My 3rd night in Sabang. The place has changed. On my last two trips, the FLs had been policed and rarely seen hanging around. This time Apple bar is filled with at least half a doz or more FLs and they are openly soliciting customers like in LA Cafe. The first night picked up an FL with great makeup and hair and went bar hopping. She had done a year long course in cosmetology she explained and that's why her made up face was a cut above all the other bar girls in Sabang. Started at Midnight bar at the end of the street then hit PP disco village before moving on. Had a rocking time in the 3rd bar we hit CocoLips. The music was metal rock at the time so much more atmospheric than the pounding pop music in other bars. Unfortunately we enjoyed the mood a little too much and a few drinks later she started hinting she was drunk.
Back in the room no sooner than I started pounding her she started pushing me away and started groping for the front door, stark naked. It took me a few seconds into realize that she wanted to retch all over the floor. I grabbed her by the arm and guided her to the toilet where she knelt with her chin resting on the bowl and spent a good 10 minutes retching. There was nothing coming out thankfully except her saliva in drools. Back in bed she finally retched again all over the floor, again thankfully just water and drool. It was 2 am now and I gave up, mopped the floor lightly with a wet towel and went to sleep. She was apologetic all the time and barely able to hold her head up on her neck.
Woke up in the morning did a bit of pounding and let her off for the agreed fee. Decided not act stingy as we had a good time drinking in the bars anyways and she was a smart talker. So Sabang now has a 1.5k option in plenty not just the 3k action from the bars.
P.
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2nd night started bar hopping without an FL because I had seen a hottie each in PP disc and cocolips the night before and was hoping to snare one of them. At PP disc the girl was not there. A friendly girl who had been taking interest in me the night before, I waved over and bought an LD for her. A closer look told me she was too old for my tastes and a bit ugly. The one hottie I saw had great looks with fake eyelashes and nicely painted cheeks and lips and looked not a day older than 16. A perfect body with looks matching a Parisian elegance and sophistication. I loved the way her straight hair fell into a nicely trimmed line cut just above the lower back. She turned out to be 26 with a baby. Unfortunately the chemistry wasn't a hit and she made excuses about having periods. That was two LDs and no bargal for the night yet.
Hit CocoLips again and was pushed a gal by the papasan almost immediately. I liked both her meat and attitude and suddenly acquired a desire to do a chubby gal like her rather than a skinny curvy one. She was genuinly friendly and teased me with her fingernails all the while. I was running low on cash so negotiated with the papasan to pay 2 k now and 1 k to the gal in the room. He readily agreed.
She was good fun in bed and I loved her flesh despite being about 5'2" with almost stocky build. Reminded me how much Women are so lovely when naked no matter what and how we men are too critical of form and proportion when we eye them with clothes on.
She made such an effort to tell me she was comfortable with Indian guys and her experiences with Indian money lenders and her moms dealings with them. A genuinely warm person with real goodwill for a customer. Nice! The sex was good.
P.
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3rd night hit the bar opposite to PP disc before moving on to Cocalips again. Today as well was pushed a gal Samantha by another mamasan. I loved her 5'4" build with curvy and not skinny frame. She has her hair dyed partly blonde with a typical looks of one you see in p0 rn movies and with a slightly receded chin. Said she had worked as a maid in Dubai and was back waiting for her next contract. Now with the FL option In was wondering if I should have spent time at apple scouting for one. I already have an FL lined up for today whom I had met and promised the evening before over a drink. But I decided to enjoy the bar scene on a weekend / Sunday Rather than a Monday and leave the FL for a quiet day following. Also I was suspicious that 3 k was a bar fine for dancers but the gals sitting around could be had for less. So I negotiated it down to 2. 5 k with 1. 5 k bar fine and 1 k for gal in the room.
This one was a surprise in bed. Perfectly slutty skills in BJ and HJ just the way I love it. I secretly laughed at how she had told me she didn't like her house owner at dubai because he wanted to kiss her. She was such a p0 rn starlet in her actions I wanted to hire her as a maid for myself. We laughed about it. But like all gals too loose for a normal sized Indian dick- if you are thicker than 5.5" circumference you might enjoy her. So I decided to finish off with a HJ and loved it. The twist came soon after.
She went to the bathroom to clean up and came back fully dressed. I said what? She said I go. Then it struck me I had never discussed ST or LT. I said very firmly and assertively that LT was understood and she had to make it clear if it was ST when taking the money. Hearing my angry tone she started whining and pleading I have baby etc. I let her go with 500 instead of 1 k and thought that was the end of it. But wait. What follows is only a brief gist of a vocal half an hour of arguing - (mobile and typing dont go well I am sorry.)
In the morning I hear a knock and the resort manager tells me the mamasan is waiting for me to discuss the matter. He offered to explain on my behalf about the LT / ST thing and I agreed. But 15 minutes later he calls back saying she wants to discuss with you. I head to the reception and the mamasan is waiting with the gal and another housemaid type of friend. The mamasan, a very fair intellectual looking bespectacled lady, is extremely apologetic to me but insists I wanted ass which she didn't like and so she wanted to go. I said I only spoken to her about it and did not push it. Then she claimed I shooed her away. I said I only opened the door for her while she was sobbing and whining and told her to go as I did not want a reluctant female in bed all night. Then I insisted she not keep her part of the agreement. So the gal repeated what she had told me in the bar last night that she was only 3 days old and did not know the regulations and rules of the game. But she was still acting cocky. She threatened to call the police and walked away with her assistant. I let her go while I firmly argued with the mamasan in the hot sun. She comes back 15 mins later with no cop because my resort is at the far end of the beach. Again we argue and she is is not willing to let go of that 500. She tells me fck you you are just tourist I am local I will make you pay more than 500. I tell her go call the cops and try what you want. She walks away a second time saying she will go all the way this time until she reaches a barangay police station. I continue arguing with the mamasan and tell her I ruin her reputation on the internet because everyone discover Sabang via Internet and my bad experience with her will be known by everyone in the US and Europe. And that people would sart avoiding her bar. It seems to bother her a bit. Then after she had walked a good distance, I suddenly flipped and offered to pay the balance 500 and close the matter. I know they are bluffing from their tone and apologetic stance. Yet I decide to do it as its meant to be a pleasure vacation and what's 500 given the amount I am spending. Besides I have one more night of bar hopping to do and don't want to encounter the issue at night when I just want to be pleasantly drunk looking for the latest hottie. She yells out and calls them back from the distance. She quietly t
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Taxi from airport to Heritage
FYI. Landed in MNL at terminal 2 on Friday, May 22nd. Was through immigration and in the taxi line in about 5 minutes. There were 20 people waiting, no taxis. Went up to the departure area by way of the stairs. Immediately jumped into a waiting taxi whose gracious driver immediately turned on his meter and off we went to Heritage Hotel. Upon arrival the fare was. Drumroll please. 99.50 p. I gave him an extra 20 pesos and he was happy. And that was with all the damn traffic. So, now you know what the price should be.
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[QUOTE=PeeMan;1728456]Also I was suspicious that 3 k was a bar fine for dancers but the gals sitting around could be had for less. So I negotiated it down to 2. 5 k with 1. 5 k bar fine and 1 k for gal in the room.
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She went to the bathroom to clean up and came back fully dressed. I said what? She said I go. Then it struck me I had never discussed ST or LT. [b]I said very firmly and assertively that LT was understood and she had to make it clear if it was ST when taking the money[/b]. Hearing my angry tone she started whining and pleading I have baby etc. I let her go with 500 instead of 1 k and thought that was the end of it. But wait. What follows is only a brief gist of a vocal half an hour of arguing.
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Then after she had walked a good distance, I suddenly flipped and offered to pay the balance 500 and close the matter. I know they are bluffing from their tone and apologetic stance. Yet I decide to do it as its meant to be a pleasure vacation and what's 500 given the amount I am spending. Besides I have one more night of bar hopping to do and don't want to encounter the issue at night when I just want to be pleasantly drunk looking for the latest hottie.[/QUOTE]
What a mess. I don't understand how one has his wits about him to negotiate a barfine (not merely accept the initial price) but fails to discuss the details of the deal. But hey, different people's noggins work differently. When left vague what is understood between both parties can differ significantly, as seen here. Adding more complexity is the expectation that the other party is obliged to make things clear. In my life experience when I assigned unstated obligations to others, especially those who are strangers, it hasn't led to a satisfactory outcome usually. Better to make such demands of yourself by telling others exactly what you want; you'll be less likely to left disappointed or, worse, spend hours bickering and hear threats of police intervention. Implicit is rarely better than explicit. How some people choose to spend their precious vacation time...
In reading other FRs I know there who are some here who advocate not going over the details prior to paying a barfine. This FR shows the risks of this clearly. What one gains by leaving things unclear has never been explained to me compellingly.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1728498]What a mess. SNIP
In reading other FRs I know there who are some here who advocate not going over the details prior to paying a barfine. This FR shows the risks of this clearly. What one gains by leaving things unclear has never been explained to me compellingly.[/QUOTE]Those who prefer not to discuss details prior to payment tell me that it "destroys the mood" and "is not romantic". To each his own, but I'm with you on this Huts. From the girl's point there is rarely a mood or romance that the gent himself is experiencing. It is a biz transaction that ups her romanticism.
These gents (and guys chatted sitting at bars in the area) also often use the word 'date'; I think there is often in AC / Burgos an untrue belief that they are taking the girl out of the bar for the evening on a date (because she's willing to go drinking / eating); hence the idea of romance. Nothing could be further from the truth: Just try taking the girl on that 'date' without paying the barfine.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1728498] . <SNIP>
In reading other FRs I know there who are some here who advocate not going over the details prior to paying a barfine. This FR shows the risks of this clearly. What one gains by leaving things unclear has never been explained to me compellingly.[/QUOTE]Well said Huts, and as we both know, there is a daily need to make things absolutely clear and specific in everything you do in the Philippines.
For example: if you don't want mayonnaise on your sandwich you need to be very explicit, say it clearly, repeat it, and then listen carefully when the waiter repeats your order back to you. Same rule applies to planning the BF. Be very explicit, and don't move until there is clear mutual undertanding.
As WC says, forget about the "romance" aspect if it is a barfine; for the girl it is a business deal no matter how much you sugarcoat it. You should treat it as such too.
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[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1727627]I can confirm it's very easy to pick up a girl at Robinson Mall, Ermita for ST action. I was approached twice at the entrance to the mall before going to the security line. I walked straight past one girl and the other one looked unclean and untidy so I said no. Inside the mall, within a few minutes a girl smiled, but I was on a mission to get something so smiled back and kept walking. About half-an-hour later another MILF in her 30's makes eye contact and smiles. I invited her over and bought her a bubble cup coconut drink. We got talking and she said 2,500 for ST. I said let's make it 2,000 and she agreed. So off we go to the Diamond Hotel at 12.00 noon and get down to business. Service was quite mechanical and with none of the passion or enthusiasm I was expecting (after being spoiled in AC). She showered at the start, but there was a bit of mucus discharge in her pussy, so I passed on DATY. But it wasn't too bad overall. DFK, CBJ and came doggie while playing with her A cup tits. We showered again and she was out by 12.40 pm. She asked me if I wanted a companion for the next day, but I said I was leaving that evening.
If you don't want to go to LA Cafe and be forced to drink one more SML and fight off the back massage bandits, then Robinson is an option but with limited choice.[/QUOTE]I used to hang out in that area at Jamba Juice and / or Starbucks. Yes, everyone has different tastes, but I found the quality hanging out in that area less the low. I guess at that time the selection is going to be limited at either place.
(I'm not one to penny pinch, but seems like an overpay for that area / quality.).
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Price at Robinsons
[QUOTE=Random99;1728830]I used to hang out in that area at Jamba Juice and / or Starbucks. Yes, everyone has different tastes, but I found the quality hanging out in that area less the low. I guess at that time the selection is going to be limited at either place.
(I'm not one to penny pinch, but seems like an overpay for that area / quality.).[/QUOTE]Yeah I've now learnt that the price for ST action from the mall is around 1000 PHP. When you are on vacation with limited time, you tend not to worry about overpaying. I was leaving that evening and wanted to squeeze in one more fuck before checking out of my room. Quality is not great, but better than the white whales I am used to seeing in Australian malls and you can't pick those up. LOL.
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1728631]Well said Huts, and as we both know, there is a daily need to make things absolutely clear and specific in everything you do in the Philippines.
For example: if you don't want mayonnaise on your sandwich you need to be very explicit, say it clearly, repeat it, and then listen carefully when the waiter repeats your order back to you. Same rule applies to planning the BF. Be very explicit, and don't move until there is clear mutual undertanding.
As WC says, forget about the "romance" aspect if it is a barfine; for the girl it is a business deal no matter how much you sugarcoat it. You should treat it as such too.[/QUOTE]In fairness to the Filipino people, I find their level of comprehension far better than say the Indonesians. You need to repeat many times to be assured an Indonesian has understood what you are saying and then they will still go and stuff up your order. Being exposed to American and Spanish cultures, Christianity and knowing English has certainly put the Filipons at the top of the tree when it comes to communication.
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[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1728860]. Being exposed to American and Spanish cultures, Christianity and knowing English has certainly put the Filipons at the top of the tree when it comes to communication.[/QUOTE]Hmm not sure I would totally agree on that. Many people have problems in Philippines because they generally receive a reply of " yes " or something equally affirmative to a question. That makes them assume that they were understood. Nothing can be further from the truth sometimes. The "yes" was just acknowledging what was said, but had nothing to do with actually comprehending its contents. Many problems occur in Philippines because someone says " do you understand me " and the reply is "yes".
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1728631]As WC says, forget about the "romance" aspect if it is a barfine; for the girl it is a business deal no matter how much you sugarcoat it. You should treat it as such too.[/QUOTE]Respectfully I disagree. Although money exchanges hands, my modus operandi is to make it as little like a business transaction as possible. I chat and get to know my girl, make her laugh and feel comfortable in my company and some time later, after I tell her how much I'll pay her (including tip if she makes me smile), I'll take her back to my hotel. It's not just about the sex for me, it's about the intimate moments, holding hands, talking till late, the kisses and cuddles and falling asleep arm in arm. I love the fact that I always walk out of the bar hand-in-hand and we always exchange mobile numbers next morning. I crave the 'girlfriend experience' when I travel and find that if I treat girls nicely, with respect, and don't make them feel like hookers, there can be a certain romance to proceedings. Especially in Philippines.
The girls are after money, of course they are, but while I would suggest that newcomers always establish terms and conditions in the bar, I think experience can bring an unspoken understanding with the girls. I do find it incredible for example that people believe they will get the same level of service from a girl they ask 'do you do anal?' within minutes of meeting her. Make her feel like a prostitute and she'll act like one in my experience but invest time and effort in getting to know a girl and she will give you what you want without the need for you going through a tick-list of requirements in the bar.
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[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1728874] <SNIP> Make her feel like a prostitute and she'll act like one in my experience but invest time and effort in getting to know a girl and she will give you what you want without the need for you going through a tick-list of requirements in the bar.[/QUOTE]In the final analysis, you are setting out to deceive her into getting what you want.
You know she is a prostitute.
She knows she is prostituting herself but is trying to deceive herself into thinking she's not.
It's all just a big charade, by both parties, and it ends up with the same result.
Guy gets his kicks and girl gets her money, despite all the deceptive processes that go on in between (from both sides).
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Communication in Asia
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1728870]Hmm not sure I would totally agree on that. Many people have problems in Philippines because they generally receive a reply of " yes " or something equally affirmative to a question. That makes them assume that they were understood. Nothing can be further from the truth sometimes. The "yes" was just acknowledging what was said, but had nothing to do with actually comprehending its contents. Many problems occur in Philippines because someone says " do you understand me " and the reply is "yes".[/QUOTE]Compared to Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos, the Filipinos seem a lot sharper and communicate much better. Have you ever tried getting anything done in Cambodia? It's a fuckin' nightmare just trying to check into your hotel. Pol Pot killed off anyone with an education. The only people allowed to live were illiterate rice farmers. They are the people now running the country.
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[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1728913]Compared to Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos, the Filipinos seem a lot sharper and communicate much better. Have you ever tried getting anything done in Cambodia? It's a fuckin' nightmare just trying to check into your hotel. Pol Pot killed off anyone with an education. The only people allowed to live were illiterate rice farmers. They are the people now running the country.[/QUOTE]Blue Tongue staff in PP treated me great. The only mix up I had was communicating that I was extending my stay. And in a strange twist of fate or irony or whatever. The receptionist happened to be a Filipina working there. LOL.
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1728880]In the final analysis, you are setting out to deceive her into getting what you want. You know she is a prostitute. She knows she is prostituting herself but is trying to deceive herself into thinking she's not.
It's all just a big charade, by both parties, and it ends up with the same result.[/QUOTE]I would like to disagree with you my friend. Treating a working girl like a girlfriend has worked wonder for me. I suggest you try this approach. You may be pleasantly surprised.
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[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1728913]Compared to Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos, the Filipinos seem a lot sharper and communicate much better. Have you ever tried getting anything done in Cambodia? It's a fuckin' nightmare just trying to check into your hotel.[/QUOTE]Frankly this is more of a function of familiarity with the english language. Filipinos take english classes all through school and virtually all who graduate high school will be relatively fluent in english whether they realize it or not. The Indochina countries you compare and Indonesia don't have nearly a strong English speaking component to thier society.
Its a matter of language comprehension not brightness. Pinoy are certainly no more bright than Cambodians there I met I feel confident in that.
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[QUOTE=Lefeu;1728937]I would like to disagree with you my friend. Treating a working girl like a girlfriend has worked wonder for me. I suggest you try this approach. You may be pleasantly surprised.[/QUOTE]I've lived in the Philippines for almost 19 years now and I understand what you are saying, but you are still fooling yourself with the notion of the GFE.
No matter how much you want to spin it, sweet pretty young things giving GFE to a much older guy who may be bald, fat, ugly or tall, athletic and well-dressed is still a charade on her part, even if you convince yourself that she really does love to be with you.
As an Aussie, I treat everyone with respect, whether it's a bar / g, a hard-core working girl, a shop assistant or a beggar but you're going way beyond this notion of "respect".
It's OK for you to treat "working girls" like girlfriends but you shouldn't delude yourself that she really is "into" you.
Her devotion lasts as long as the transaction, after which it is back to business as usual after her pleasant little interlude, unless, of course, there is the prospect of her seeing you again (tomorrow; next week?) in which case she will prolong the charade.
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1729005]I've lived in the Philippines for almost 19 years now and I understand what you are saying, but you are still fooling yourself with the notion of the GFE.
No matter how much you want to spin it, sweet pretty young things giving GFE to a much older guy who may be bald, fat, ugly or tall, athletic and well-dressed is still a charade on her part, even if you convince yourself that she really does love to be with you.
As an Aussie, I treat everyone with respect, whether it's a bar / g, a hard-core working girl, a shop assistant or a beggar but you're going way beyond this notion of "respect".
It's OK for you to treat "working girls" like girlfriends but you shouldn't delude yourself that she really is "into" you.
Her devotion lasts as long as the transaction, after which it is back to business as usual after her pleasant little interlude, unless, of course, there is the prospect of her seeing you again (tomorrow; next week?) in which case she will prolong the charade.[/QUOTE]Would 100% agree with this.
I've had 1 exception and it was with a girl who basically was paying off a loan at a massage parlor. Girl skipped out of town to avoid the loan. Went to visit her at the MP and found out she wasn't there anymore. I left and a few minutes later was followed out by other WGs asking / demanding for the girl's phone number. I gave them her phone number with a few digits off. I called her phone number which was based in a different city and warned her what happened. Unfortunately, the email address that I gave her was an account that stupid yahoo locked me out and I never got access again. Guess that's how fate works sometimes (although I don't believe in fate). Hope she is doing well and landed on her feet.
If it had been a few years later, I would have paid off the loan myself and let her live her life conscious free. (I had very little money saved up back then.).
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1729005]I've lived in the Philippines for almost 19 years now and I understand what you are saying, but you are still fooling yourself with the notion of the GFE.
No matter how much you want to spin it, sweet pretty young things giving GFE to a much older guy who may be bald, fat, ugly or tall, athletic and well-dressed is still a charade on her part, even if you convince yourself that she really does love to be with you.
As an Aussie, I treat everyone with respect, whether it's a bar / g, a hard-core working girl, a shop assistant or a beggar but you're going way beyond this notion of "respect".
It's OK for you to treat "working girls" like girlfriends but you shouldn't delude yourself that she really is "into" you.
Her devotion lasts as long as the transaction, after which it is back to business as usual after her pleasant little interlude, unless, of course, there is the prospect of her seeing you again (tomorrow; next week?) in which case she will prolong the charade.[/QUOTE]I can't claim as long in country as RK, but I've been here long enough to have come to the same conclusion. I believe in literature and drama there's a concept called "willing suspension of disbelief," which is, I suggest the ideal way to approach the endlessly re-enacted playlets between be-girls and punters. She pretends--often quite convincingly--to enjoy you for who you are, and you pretend (hopefully recognizing the pretense) that she's just enjoying the entire experience of being with you. As long as both actors in the drama realize they're each enacting a script there's no harm, no foul and a good time can be had by all. Filipinos are, I believe the best, which is to say the most convincing at playing these roles it's true, but it's important to remember that these are merely roles. Like RK, I try to treat everyone with whom I interact with respect and with dignity, and I expect to be treated the same way by virtue of my own humanity.
GE.
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1729005]
Her devotion lasts as long as the transaction, after which it is back to business as usual after her pleasant little interlude, unless, of course, there is the prospect of her seeing you again (tomorrow; next week?) in which case she will prolong the charade.[/QUOTE]This is why I think so many foreigner / bar girl marriages end in disaster. A bar girl can never clock off the job in her mind, even if she is not physically pulling tricks on the side. The notion of normality doesn't exist. There's something in her make up which prevents her from being the marrying type.
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1728880]In the final analysis, you are setting out to deceive her into getting what you want.[/QUOTE]No I'm not, your analysis is wrong. The girl and I both know that I will pay her to have sex with me, I just prefer not to make it like a business transaction and girls undoubtedly appreciate it. Many have told me so. Girls have told me that although they are prostitutes they don't like being treated like a piece of meat.
Although I accept that my modus operandi means there is a chance that the girls could offer me a restricted menu or do a midnight runner, they never do. The way I see it, the better you treat them, the better they will treat you in return. Treat them like a prostitute and they will act like one. Nothing wrong with that of course. I could meet a girl in LA Cafe and have the kind of girlfriend experience I crave and the next night you could go with the same girl and come on her face and fuck her up the arse as much as you like, rules of engagement signed off in the bar.
As so often is the case on this site, there is no right or wrong answer.
You sound incredulous that people like me talk about the 'girlfriend experience' but I find it utterly bewildering that some people talk about 'interviewing' their choice of girl in the bar. I suspect it comes down to the individual. If you are old, fat and ugly (your words) then it's probably a good idea to establish terms and conditions beforehand. That's not me having a cheap shot by the way (I have no idea what anyone on this site looks like), but the elephant in the room here, which rarely gets discussed on this forum which so often seems to think that there is one golden rule for all, is that the older and uglier you are, the more you might need to establish ground rules before you take a girl. Maybe because I'm relatively young, slim, blue eyes and smile a lot, and don't treat them like prostitutes, the girls are sufficiently relaxed to give me what I want without me asking.
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[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1729302].
I have no idea what anyone on this site looks like.[/QUOTE]Just for the record, we are all young (ish) slim (ish), all possess blue eyes (except when brown green grey or just beer soaked red), muscle bound (ish), tanned (don't let the pink and red fool you, we're tanned).
And were often compared to Brad, George, and Vikings in general. LOL.
Those fat, bald, brown eyed guys. We don't know who they are.
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[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1729302]
You sound incredulous that people like me talk about the 'girlfriend experience' but I find it utterly bewildering that some people talk about 'interviewing' their choice of girl in the bar. I suspect it comes down to the individual. If you are old, fat and ugly (your words) then it's probably a good idea to establish terms and conditions beforehand. That's not me having a cheap shot by the way (I have no idea what anyone on this site looks like), but the elephant in the room here, which rarely gets discussed on this forum which so often seems to think that there is one golden rule for all, is that the older and uglier you are, the more you might need to establish ground rules before you take a girl. Maybe because I'm relatively young, slim, blue eyes and smile a lot, and don't treat them like prostitutes, the girls are sufficiently relaxed to give me what I want without me asking.[/QUOTE]When your job is to fuck 300 foreign men a year for cash (in AC), the girls stop worrying about your physical appearance. I'm sure they say each of their customers is handsome, sexy etc. As others have pointed out, the girls are far cleverer in working you out than you might think. You are just a sucker who is going to blow a month's average pay in the Philippines on her in one night. The more you treat her like a princess, the more she is thinking that you are an idiot. By all means do treat her with respect, but don't go overboard. The purpose of the interview is establish what you are getting to limit the surprise factor when you get to your room. It is a business transaction. The girls are not fooled into thinking thinking this is some kind of romantic date. Only the punter is. What passes for a GFE and 'romance' is a just a good act by the girl. Don't think otherwise.
Treating her extremely well is no guarantee of a good outcome. The runners and the non-performers I had were treated exceptionally well beforehand with dinner, drinks and kindness and even an offer of deferring sex till the morning. By running or not performing, she is exerting the power she has over you (just like your wife or girlfriend). Sometimes you have to accept that the girl is jaded, worn out and is sick of fucking strange men each day. The burn out rate in AC is very high and I can understand that. After a while it's all just a blur for her.
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[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1729353]When your job is to fuck 300 foreign men a year for cash (in AC), the girls stop worrying about your physical appearance. I'm sure they say each of their customers is handsome, sexy etc. As others have pointed out, the girls are far cleverer in working you out than you might think. You are just a sucker who is going to blow a month's average pay in the Philippines on her in one night. The more you treat her like a princess, the more she is thinking that you are an idiot. By all means do treat her with respect, but don't go overboard. The purpose of the interview is establish what you are getting to limit the surprise factor when you get to your room. It is a business transaction. The girls are not fooled into thinking thinking this is some kind of romantic date. Only the punter is. What passes for a GFE and 'romance' is a just a good act by the girl. Don't think otherwise.
Treating her extremely well is no guarantee of a good outcome. The runners and the non-performers I had were treated exceptionally well beforehand with dinner, drinks and kindness and even an offer of deferring sex till the morning. By running or not performing, she is exerting the power she has over you (just like your wife or girlfriend). Sometimes you have to accept that the girl is jaded, worn out and is sick of fucking strange men each day. The burn out rate in AC is very high and I can understand that. After a while it's all just a blur for her.[/QUOTE]This is Manila forum, not AC. Although there are working girls here, the vast majority are what you call semi-pro. They do this to supplement their income, and have some latitude to choose who they fuck.
Given the same amount of payout, a girl would choose to be with a more attractive person.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1728498]What a mess. I don't understand how one has his wits about him to negotiate a barfine (not merely accept the initial price) but fails to discuss the details of the deal. But hey, different people's noggins work differently. When left vague what is understood between both parties can differ significantly, as seen here. Adding more complexity is the expectation that the other party is obliged to make things clear. In my life experience when I assigned unstated obligations to others, especially those who are strangers, it hasn't led to a satisfactory outcome usually. Better to make such demands of yourself by telling others exactly what you want; you'll be less likely to left disappointed or, worse, spend hours bickering and hear threats of police intervention. Implicit is rarely better than explicit. How some people choose to spend their precious vacation time...
In reading other FRs I know there who are some here who advocate not going over the details prior to paying a barfine. This FR shows the risks of this clearly. What one gains by leaving things unclear has never been explained to me compellingly.[/QUOTE]Actually I always discuss the details beforehand. Call it beer-haze or what, that night I clean forgot. And when I realized my mistake as she was leaving, I wasn't going to tell that gal who I thought was trying to scam me anything like, oh my bad I forgot, you go easy. LOL. I just pretended it was her fault she didn't make it clear to me just to make life difficult for her. In the end it was the cognizance of this little mistake of mine that made me capitulate.
I've had originally interested women lose interest in me when I ask them "how many times" or "you do ass? Questions. The latest was just a few days back in Subic. On the other hand many gals who didn't want to do it four times by morning and backed out, when I clearly had the drive for it, I appreciated their honesty and the trouble it saved me.
Looking at the posts following - Regarding GFE it is true that one has to delude oneself into believing it is real love or romance, but then I see too many gals struggling to cope with the morality of what they do have problems when you treat them like "I pay you so you come with me" attitude. So I would advocate striking a balance where you play the game for the sake of game. Just to keep their attitude towards yourself playful flirty, enthusiastic and willing. No more. Call it a social skills game more than a GFE delusion if you wish. Just today I met a filipina salesgal who took great interest in me. And I do want to play it like a pretend-romance to enjoy her warmth and sunshine smile and oodles of charm. If there is one thing I love about filipinas it is their ability to make believe a real romance is happening while they secretly need your money. Who wants a business like transaction all the time, when one can try and play that romantic lover for practice and for kicks? Its got its own charm.
Cheers.
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Engine Driver.
Almost every part of your email backs up a point I made in my post. For some reason, some people believe that there is one golden rule in Philippines that applies to everyone. There isn't. Different approaches work for different people. You like to 'interview' girls in the bar (I hate the phrase 'interview') and seem to get reasonable results most of the time, I treat them as little like a prostitute as I can and get great results. Without asking I seem to get the same end results as you (or dare I say better) and yet you are telling me that I'm doing it all wrong. I think that says more about your insecurities than anything I'm doing.
I read your recent reports on the Angeles page and get the impression that just because of a few knock-backs you now have a suspicion of most of these girls. You think they are hardened pro's who 'fucks 300 foreign men a year for cash' (your words) and it's all just cold, hard business for them. Thinking about it, you make them sound like western prostitutes. For you to say 'the more you treat her like a princess, the more she is thinking that you are an idiot' makes me wonder whether either you're picking the wrong girls or you need to polish up on your conversational skills. Your experiences simply don't tally with mine.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1729353]Treating her extremely well is no guarantee of a good outcome.[/QUOTE]It seems to be for me.
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Work
Feels like I am at work, reading long emails again. Why don't you guys just PM each other!
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[QUOTE=MrTran;1729745]Feels like I am at work, reading long emails again. Why don't you guys just PM each other![/QUOTE]Disagree. Its good to see the differing opinions.
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Burgos Street on Sundays
Wanted to know if the clubs are open and what the availability is like, thanks.
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Burgos on Sundays
Everyone goes to church on Sundays. Wait until Monday.
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[QUOTE=SirLancelot;1729728]{S N I P}
For you to say 'the more you treat her like a princess, the more she is thinking that you are an idiot' makes me wonder whether either you're picking the wrong girls or you need to polish up on your conversational skills. Your experiences simply don't tally with mine.[/QUOTE]There is an enormous difference between 'treating the girl well', and making her feel comfortable with you.
Sir LL, it is much more than just conversation skills. You have the personality and (probably innate) ability to make the SYT feel comfortable with you. There are many aspects to this - attentiveness, genuine interest, showing appreciation, etc etc.
Feigned politeness and civility, and buying a girl dinner, gifts or whatever have little to do in determining whether or not she is going to do a runner or be a non-performer. And yes, most girls are skilled in identifying whether or not the words come from your heart!
And I disagree with ED, that a punter's physical appearance does not impact the performance of the SYT.
Ikksman.
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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1728618]Those who prefer not to discuss details prior to payment tell me that it "destroys the mood" and "is not romantic". To each his own, but I'm with you on this Huts. From the girl's point there is rarely a mood or romance that the gent himself is experiencing. It is a biz transaction that ups her romanticism.
These gents (and guys chatted sitting at bars in the area) also often use the word 'date'; I think there is often in AC / Burgos an untrue belief that they are taking the girl out of the bar for the evening on a date (because she's willing to go drinking / eating); hence the idea of romance. Nothing could be further from the truth: Just try taking the girl on that 'date' without paying the barfine.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with this sentiment. Before you leave the bar, it should be clear in both your minds and the mama san's too, if your gal's English is limited, what the deal is. IMHO, how long for, how much for and what you expect her to do at your hotel, should be discussed and agreed upon before you exit the bar or club.
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[QUOTE=OsakaGin11;1731050]Totally agree with this sentiment. Before you leave the bar, it should be clear in both your minds and the mama san's too, if your gal's English is limited, what the deal is. IMHO, how long for, how much for and what you expect her to do at your hotel, should be discussed and agreed upon before you exit the bar or club.[/QUOTE]This applies to AC (not so much Burgos / EDSA bar girls, who expect a big tip in the morning). Besides the 'it-breaks-the-mood' reasoning for not discussing details in the bar, here is another reason I've been given (which does not seem to hold water -- to me): You can't force a girl to stay the night, she is not required to do so. Her only requirements are to either sex you once, or spend a few hours with you. While that is technically correct, there are some things you can do to either eliminate taking this girl in the first place (by finding out before hand if she intends to depart early), or persuade her to stay the time intended. Those things include at least these:
1. Discuss details with her in the bar. Be clear your expectations.
2. Discuss the details with the mama, preferably in front of the girl.
3. Photograph the girl's ID.
4. Photograph the girl (I don't take them unless they've agreed to that in the bar w / mama).
5. Do not go bar hopping with the girl before going to the room. The most time you should spend outside the room (before your first pop) is time enough to stop for some fast-food (takeout) for the girl. While these situations sometimes go well (she spends the night), nothing says "I set myself up to fail" when she just departs after spending several hours bar-hopping with you (and without even going to your hotel), especially if you didn't do #1 & 2 above. Complaining to the mama later will simply draw an apology (at best) and a smile from her face: you f*cked up. You can always take her bar hopping after your first pop.
While none of these can guarantee a non-runner, each of them in turn either greatly reduces the likelihood of running (or not performing as requested). BTW #2 above catches the occasional liar. During #1, she agreed to stay until 10 am (not knowing that we would run thru the list with mama / waitress later). Once chatting mama, the girl packpedals: "Oh no. I go 6 am. Hehe". Sorry mama, she lied. I'll be taking my money back now.
Here is another reason I've been given for not doing the above: It takes too much time or its too difficult. I could be wrong, but #1 takes about 20 seconds (total: she will either say yes or no to my list), #2 takes 20 seconds, #3 takes 10 seconds. I am going to do #4 anyway, but even if you don't intend to take nawty pics, you can take 10 seconds to take just one naked pic of the girl (be fun about it, take a selfie of you and the girl together on the bed). All the steps above can take a combined 1 minute. I know, I know: its not romantic. But its a relatively successful strategy, as is Sir Lance's nearly opposite strategy.
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5. Do not go bar hopping with the girl before going to the room. The most time you should spend outside the room (before your first pop) is time enough to stop for some fast-food (takeout) for the girl. While these situations sometimes go well (she spends the night), nothing says "I set myself up to fail" when she just departs after spending several hours bar-hopping with you (and without even going to your hotel), especially if you didn't do #1 & 2 above. Complaining to the mama later will simply draw an apology (at best) and a smile from her face: you f*cked up. You can always take her bar hopping after your first pop.
[/QUOTE]#5 is absolutely spot on. Strike while the iron is hot! I don't know why some guys want to barhop several hours after they have barfined a girl. I want to get it on. I guess they like booze. Anyway, after the 1st shag if everything went well; that is the time to go out and get something to eat and/or drink.
Since this is the Manila thread I will mainly address the issue as it relates to Burgos Bar girls. Running is much less a concern with Burgos girls than AC bar girls. That is because all parties agree that ST and LT are separate service options and available at different prices. You and your girl have to decide beforehand if the takeout is going to be 1 to 3 hours or overnight. There is no EWR on Burgos. There is a barfine that is put on your tab, equivalent to 10 Tequila shots, when you decide to take a girl out. Any lady drinks you bought for the girl previously that night are included in and not added on top of the barfine. You must pay your tab before you leave the bar with your girl. Then there is a separate "Tip" or service charge to be agreed upon privately and paid directly to your girl AFTER her service is rendered. This arrangement, much like the one in BKK and Pat really works better nowadays than the set up in AC. Once upon a time, only a few years ago, the AC system was great because it was really cheap and because the girls did not cheat. LT was the accepted norm. But some girls have bitten the apple, gone bad, and started cheating. For that reason pre-negotiation is sadly becoming necessary in AC. But pre-negotiation is not sufficient IMHO to having a good session. The customer still has to contend with under-performance issues. This leads to...
My # 1 procedure: I always interview/audition my prospective girl. THIS IS THE KEY TO HAPPINESS. I always like to test drive my girl and in my favorite Burgos bars (and some AC bars) this is not only possible; the good girl, the girl who wants me barfine her, encourages it. In Bottoms, for example, the girls wear narrow suspenders over their nipples as a top. Usually within a minute or two of my asking a girl to sit down at my table or booth, she will fling her suspenders to her side and offer me her nipples to kiss. From there a steamy audition/tryout begins. Two Tequila shots later I am pretty sure what I am going to get back in my room and I have never been disappointed except in those rare situations when her pussy turned out to be too large or I didn't notice a bad smell emanating from down there. Ha Ha. But those occasions are very rare and I am careful in my selection process to avoid girls with hygiene issues. And still I always choose ST with a new Burgos or BKK / Pat bar girl. I know I can always call an audible later and ask her to stay longer (for the LT price) after the 1st shag if I really like her.
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[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1731189]There is no EWR on Burgos.[/QUOTE]EWR is not in the ISG abbreviations. Meaning?
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[QUOTE=KongKing;1731353]EWR is not in the ISG abbreviations. Meaning?[/QUOTE]EWR means early work release aka bar fine aka go and have fun with the girl.
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First time in Manila
First trip to Manila last week. I am not a newbie in the general sense as have trawled fairly extensively over the years in Hong Kong, Bangkok, Dubai and Pattaya (that is my order of preference). I am mildly embarrassed at not having contributed in the past but certainly have benefited from RTF. Anyway a small correction finally hit Manila mid-week and with biz commitments ended up with only one night of action. Stayed at Marriott which is over-priced but very handy for the airport. First stop EDSA, Passay. Went to Firehouse and Pitstop. This was <9 pm and I was basically only customer in both. Compared to LOS was struck by overall quality of lady's dancing in GoGo type establishment. Classic "barrel" shape (distribution of quality not actual shapes) so few real stunner's, few low end but plenty of middle quality. Being only customer qualified for lots of attention and plenty of frisks. Bought a few lady drinks, but not too pushy and moved on. But generally the quality of these two places was better than I had been led to believe from RTF.
Moved onto Emrita and following the teachings of Lancelot et al and homed in on LA Cafe. Huge variety of ladies. BTW I had feared a long journey stuck in traffic getting from Passay to Emrita but none of it, took 20 -25 minutes only. Once inside drinks reasonably priced and little or no pressure to buy lady drinks. Perhaps my imagination but bar seem to be divided up by males Western, Asian, Middle Easter perhaps. Anyway so what. Lots and lots of ladies of all qualified ages and I think plenty of pro's, semi-pros and real amateurs. Scouted up stairs but waste of 100 Peso's. Spoke to large number of ladies and nearly all very amusing and entertaining in that uniquely Pinay way. Bought a set of sexy triplets (yeah right!) a round. Very appreciative, no hard sell but all ready and willing. Could easily have selected + 20 women but eventually had to make a choice. Hooked up with two ladies who were cousins. One mid 20's, a real stunner some Spanish mixed in with Pinay. Other bit older was a part-timer and goes to college in Makati one day a week and hits LA Caf as soon as the lectures (nursing) are done. Not as hot but a laugh a minute and could not resist that, so she was the lucky one. Wanted 4,000 but I said 3,000 and she accepted with no quibble. Probably could have gone <2,000 but that not my way and turned out to be great value IMHO at 3,000. Total GFE, all nighter, multiple pops and enthusiastic in every sense. Sense of humor was fully intact next morning a real great "girl next door" I would say. Solid 7.5/10.
I realise that there is nothing insightful in this report but for certain LA Cafe exceeded my expectations (based on RTF). For sure "one swallow does not make a summer" but no question I will be back here and the only slightly similar bar that I am familiar with is that Beer Garden place around Soi 7 in Bangkok. But LA Cafe is off the scale compared to that place.
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Not so
[QUOTE=MrPards;1731531]I realise that there is nothing insightful in this report but for certain LA Cafe exceeded my expectations (based on RTF). For sure "one swallow does not make a summer" but no question I will be back here and the only slightly similar bar that I am familiar with is that Beer Garden place around Soi 7 in Bangkok. But LA Cafe is off the scale compared to that place.[/QUOTE]That's a good, descriptive report. Other newbs take note.
Why do you say LA Cafe is off the scale (comparatively)?
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Avoided getting scammed at LA Cafe
Went to L. A caf last night. Got cornered by a short round FL who spoke in a well mannered demeanor. Her makeup was classy and well done unlike the other gals. Bought her an LD and we got chatting. She asked me my background, vacation or work etc, how many times I had come to LA Caf and if I picked up a gal last time. Soon offered to give me a massage for "One Thousand P". I asked her to repeat because I was surprised at the perfectly quoted street price that didn't require haggling or negotiation. She repeated "One thousand P" again, over the loud music while I read her lips to be sure. I said let the beer decide later, lets just drink now. She said she worked at SG airport at a food stall for a few years and was waiting for a new contract to go back. Over the small talk she mentioned that she had bought a house somewhere on the coast for her parents, a boat for her fisherman dad and yet another house in the interiors recently because she didn't like living by the sea. All on the money she earned as a counter sales girl in SG!! I didn't know whether to believe her, but joked maybe I should be giving her a massage and she could pay me some. She laughed. Her friend was hovering over our shoulders and listening in. After a while she said maybe you should take both me and my friend together. She could stay short time. The friend quoted 2 K for it. Something was amiss. This gal was ready for massage in 1 K perhaps 1. 5 K LT if I asked about it and her friend wanted 2 k ST? I refused and also got suspicious. Some half an hour later, it was midnight I was sleepy and tired as hell, maybe even a little unwell, so I decided to go and take her along.
Outside as we decided to look for a jeepney or some transport, the suspicion about her friends 2 k quote crept back. So I started talking about her friends quote - "Wait, I said. You want 1 K for LT and your friend 2 K for ST"? "She is expensive" the gal replied in a guarded fashion. "How much you said - 1 k right"? I asked again. "I said FOUR Thousand P...." mouthing the FOUR like FORN Thousand, but with a somewhat crestfallen face knowing her game was up. I said "bulllsh!t you said 1 K... don't want to negotiate, lets go back", and turned around to head back to LA Cafe. "We can talk..." she said falteringly. "How much you give"? "Not interested..." My mood is off now. "I always pay 1 K ST and 1. 5 K LT..." I said and walked back in a huff.
Went back to LA Caf and headed upstairs to where the live band was playing. While turning I noticed she was telling her friend with a grimace how I had caught her trick and was an old timer who could not be scammed (lip reading of course).
Since I positively felt sick and tired by now, refused another gal who came over to my table and headed back to my room shortly later.
P.
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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1731563]That's a good, descriptive report. Other newbs take note.
Why do you say LA Cafe is off the scale (comparatively)?[/QUOTE]Perhaps I am being over critical of The Beer Garden as I have taken fruit from there before and I am sure it has a faithful following. Maybe based on price or efficiency! For me its way to functional, nothing left to the imagination. The layout of the bar is more like a dormitory or a visitor room at a prison. And it has no "cover" at all. LA Café has few nooks and crannies and just a much more welcoming place. Much better for cruising and perusing.
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[QUOTE=MrPards;1731915]Perhaps I am being over critical of The Beer Garden as I have taken fruit from there before and I am sure it has a faithful following. Maybe based on price or efficiency! For me its way to functional, nothing left to the imagination. The layout of the bar is more like a dormitory or a visitor room at a prison. And it has no "cover" at all. LA Caf has few nooks and crannies and just a much more welcoming place. Much better for cruising and perusing.[/QUOTE]My last visit to Beer Garten in 2014 - it looked like a wasteland no longer frequented by any interesting ladies or punters. Maybe it has to do with a trend in Thai women finding work abroad rather than seek their fortunes locally.
P.
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[QUOTE=MrPards;1731531]Classic "barrel" shape (distribution of quality not actual shapes) so few real stunner's, few low end but plenty of middle quality.[/QUOTE]
Don't you mean "bell shape" rather than "barrel shape"?
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[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1732029]Don't you mean "bell shape" rather than "barrel shape"?[/QUOTE]Maybe he had some barrel peppers before he typed that.
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Alert Alert. Vitamin V needed
I have since my arrival here been without bags (they are stuck in Istanbul) and in my bags I did have many pk of Kamagra gel. I have been fucking now on good old steam but I have ran oit of powers. I used the search engine here for "viagra" and found a clever member suggesting going to Mercury and claim you lost your prescription. HM, well I tried that in 3 Mercuries now and they don't accept this excuse of mine and the same goes for any generics as RiteMed, Andros and Tigerfil.
So any of you fine gents know how to get some support medication? I have dates coming in here and no power so I end up just fingering them and out they go. And please only accurate information on where and not "I heard from a friend that thinks a cousin of him got some doing this or that".
I know I ask for a lot but I will be more than greatful.
Thanks in advance.
I know ofcourse I can buy street medics but, even if the plasibo effect is strong, I want to stay away from swallowing paint or poison.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1732629]I have since my arrival here been without bags (they are stuck in Istanbul) and in my bags I did have many pk of Kamagra gel. I have been fucking now on good old steam but I have ran oit of powers. I used the search engine here for "viagra" and found a clever member suggesting going to Mercury and claim you lost your prescription. HM, well I tried that in 3 Mercuries now and they don't accept this excuse of mine and the same goes for any generics as RiteMed, Andros and Tigerfil.
So any of you fine gents know how to get some support medication? I have dates coming in here and no power so I end up just fingering them and out they go. And please only accurate information on where and not "I heard from a friend that thinks a cousin of him got some doing this or that".
I know I ask for a lot but I will be more than greatful.
Thanks in advance.
I know ofcourse I can buy street medics but, even if the plasibo effect is strong, I want to stay away from swallowing paint or poison.[/QUOTE]Social engineering isn't working at Mercury, eh? Did you try The Generics Pharmacy? They are a rather unsophisticated operation. You mentioned Tigerfil, which is sold at Generics but I don't think it's sold at Mercur - I've only seen Andros and RiteMed there.
Assuming you're at the Glorietta place you stay at the Generics locations near you are, [URL]http://www.thegenericspharmacy.com/outlets.php?city_id=35.[/URL] I used the one at the Cash & Carry several times and was never asked for a prescription.
If you are at the Hyatt you're kind of near the Metro Supermarket (it's a Gaisano) - it's in the Emperador building near NAIA terminal 3. On the ground floor beside the store entrance is its chemist; the entrance is at the side street down a bit from McDo. The drug you need is sildenafil citrate.
If none of this works or it looks to be a hassle then the only other thing you can do is get a prescription. A doctor's consultation is approx. p1000.
If you get some tablets don't throw away the packaging. I show the empty packaging for a variety of meds to the chemist and they refill. Of course if you obtain a doctor's scrip make to get that back from the chemist to save for future use.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1732668]Social engineering isn't working at Mercury, eh? Did you try The Generics Pharmacy? They are a rather unsophisticated operation. You mentioned Tigerfil, which is sold at Generics but I don't think it's sold at Mercur - I've only seen Andros and RiteMed there.
Assuming you're at the Glorietta place you stay at the Generics locations near you are, [URL]http://www.thegenericspharmacy.com/outlets.php?city_id=35.[/URL] I used the one at the Cash & Carry several times and was never asked for a prescription.
If you are at the Hyatt you're kind of near the Metro Supermarket (it's a Gaisano) - it's in the Emperador building near NAIA terminal 3. On the ground floor beside the store entrance is its chemist; the entrance is at the side street down a bit from McDo. The drug you need is sildenafil citrate.
If none of this works or it looks to be a hassle then the only other thing you can do is get a prescription. A doctor's consultation is approx. p1000.
If you get some tablets don't throw away the packaging. I show the empty packaging for a variety of meds to the chemist and they refill. Of course if you obtain a doctor's scrip make to get that back from the chemist to save for future use.[/QUOTE]Wow Huts you are lile the orakle of Delphi. Thanks a bunch.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1732671]Wow Huts you are lile the orakle of Delphi. Thanks a bunch.[/QUOTE]You're welcome. Hope it works out. And if for some sad reason you're stuck to finger bangin' girls until tomorrow make sure to clip & file your fingernails.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1732629]I have since my arrival here been without bags (they are stuck in Istanbul) and in my bags I did have many pk of Kamagra gel. I have been fucking now on good old steam but I have ran oit of powers. I used the search engine here for "viagra" and found a clever member suggesting going to Mercury and claim you lost your prescription. HM, well I tried that in 3 Mercuries now and they don't accept this excuse of mine and the same goes for any generics as RiteMed, Andros and Tigerfil.
So any of you fine gents know how to get some support medication? I have dates coming in here and no power so I end up just fingering them and out they go. And please only accurate information on where and not "I heard from a friend that thinks a cousin of him got some doing this or that".
I know I ask for a lot but I will be more than greatful.
Thanks in advance.
I know ofcourse I can buy street medics but, even if the plasibo effect is strong, I want to stay away from swallowing paint or poison.[/QUOTE]Could always try the stuff called Robust. Its sort of words if the mood is right. And you consume the appropriate amount and as always works better on an empty stomach. On sale in all Mercury stores.
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Skogis. Just go get a prescription. Go into the emergency room late at night and get it so you don't have to wait. Tell the doctor your hormones are all messed up. You had an adrenal crash from stress at work, or some other BS. They don't understand much about that stuff anyway, so it will fly. Ask for just a small amount till you get your bags, so they don't flip out. Then make photocopies of the prescription before you fill it so you can reuse it at other pharmacies.
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Missing Out
I can help feeling that there are a lot of guys visiting the Philippines who are missing out on a relativity untapped resource namely "Mature Women" with a little time spent on various dating sites you will find a lot of mature women who are gagging for sex but are afraid to go with local men for various reasons. OK they may not be cute and their bodies maybe showing signs (no more than mine) but what they may lack in beauty they make up in enthusiasm they are there not to fuck for money but for the pleasure.
Most ladies will say that they are looking for a serious relationship / husband but you will find some who when pressed admit that they would be happy to meet just to have sex. Last week I met one lady I had been chatting with on Skype who enjoyed showing me her pussy and telling me what she wanted me to do when we met, she had only had one man before her late husband but now wanted to try everything she had watched on various porn sites and I assure you than when we met she didn't disappoint.
So chaps give it a try in between popping a starfish.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1732629]I
I have been fucking now on good old steam but I have ran oit of powers. I used the search engine here for "viagra" and found a clever member suggesting going to Mercury and claim you lost your prescription. HM, well I tried that in 3 Mercuries now and they don't accept this excuse of mine and the same goes for any generics as RiteMed, Andros and Tigerfil.
Thanks in advance..[/QUOTE]Skogis,
Generics / Generika in Burgos is OK to sell whatever you want as will the 24 HR pharma across the road from it. Robust is sold there also so you can replenish your steam engines LOL.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1732629]So any of you fine gents know how to get some support medication? {...} And please only accurate information on where and not "I heard from a friend that thinks a cousin of him got some doing this or that".
[/QUOTE]My one and only attempt was at Watson's in the back of Mall of Asia (upper level, nearest the sea, not the one near the globe nor the one in SM Supermarket). I asked, the assistant and pharmacist just handed it over without blinking or asking any questions. I asked for the generic though. Can't remember the price but something like quarter the cost of Viagra.
Also a +1 for Robust (Xtreme), though the extreme one is not cheap. Saw in SM Supermarket in MoA near the front and somewhere else but can't remember where.
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Agree
[QUOTE=Riverstar;1732697]I can help feeling that there are a lot of guys visiting the Philippines who are missing out on a relativity untapped resource namely "Mature Women" with a little time spent on various dating sites you will find a lot of mature women who are gagging for sex. [/QUOTE]I have to agree with you. Frankly I have little in common with young women, and mature Filipinas know what they like and what they would like to try. I haven't been back to the Philippines in a couple of years, but in my last trips I have focused almost exclusively on ladies in their early to late thirties, and even early forties and have yet to be disappointed. They have their fantasies and are realize their chances of living them out are slowly slipping away. My posting history is exclusively about mature Filipinas.
I have said previously that the tightest woman I was ever with was a forty plus year old single spinner who had never been married. The only way I could enter her was for her to get on top and slowly insert me at which point the sky was the limit including BBBJ and CIM for the first time. They will do everything in their power to satisfy the man they are with and themselves.
Keep our secret Riverstar.
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Thanks to all you fine gents
After making it through yesterday on pure fumes with my willy beeing on and off due to heavy usage (not only fingering Huts, hehe), I went through my options laid out to me from you fine gents. I BS girls a lot so I thought I leave the doctors alone and away from me lying my ass off to obtain a V prescription. I went through the generika stores in my vicinity and found one next to Makati Cinema Square, jumped in a cab and 5 min later arrived there. The nice young man (must have been gay) behind the counter thought it was absolutely funny I bought this stuffs so I told him there are to many beautiful girls in Makati so I need this to cope the situation. Saw some sadness in his eyes when he understood I was not gay.
For 6 tabs of Ritemeds 50 MG I payed slightly less than 500 piso.
Once again thank you.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1733005]
For 6 tabs of Ritemeds 50 MG I payed slightly less than 500 piso.
Once again thank you.[/QUOTE]Good result for your persistance Skogs.
You should have bought the 100 MG.
Same price (in the place I use) and they have a nice little groove to break them in half if 50 MG is enough to do the trick.
More bangs for your bucks (smiley face).
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1733081]Good result for your persistance Skogs.
You should have bought the 100 MG.
Same price (in the place I use) and they have a nice little groove to break them in half if 50 MG is enough to do the trick.
More bangs for your bucks (smiley face).[/QUOTE]Hehe, well, you know when fucking with low batts lately I was only happy to get some "vitamines". So when mr gay found the meds I did not think about the economics in it. But your point is taken even though I don't hope to loose my bags in near future (avoid IST as connectionpoint with only 3 flights a week to MNL and it seems impossible for them to send the bags with one of their daily flights to Singapore and onwards from there to ie SIN with their fellow Star Alliance partner Singapore Airlines bringing them to MNL. Pure shit company and I have allready cancelled my returnticket with them) and then I will have huge stock of Kamagra gel which I find to work the best for me. But as I write this I am about to pop one RiteMed for a soon arriving "date". Maybe I get a new favorite.
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More Bang
[QUOTE=Skogis;1733085]But as I write this I am about to pop one RiteMed for a soon arriving "date". Maybe I get a new favorite.[/QUOTE]Bite it and dissolve it under your tongue and see what happens Skogs.
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Live update RiteMed
Been banging 3 women after taking a 50 MG pill afternoon when 5 pm date told me she was outside. Moved on to 7 pm and later 9 pm girl. The new craft (to me) is working properly. I did have the hole noontime etc free from girls after overnight girl went back home 10 ish. Fuck did I have a boner. The two first girls started to complain after a good workout 50 min each or so with total banging. Both dripping of sweat and bedcovers etc need a change. For the 9 pm girl my dick was red as a fullblooded strawberry and entering her hurt like hell. After juiced up it felt nice again. Not able to finish after stroking her good. Will fullfinish in the morning as she has to get out around 10 for my 11 am setup. She is sleeping like a baby now with cute small snores:-)
So 50 MG of this shit seems like 100 MG Viagra ro me. Maybe it was the excitement of finding some supportvitamin doing the plasibo to me, who knows and who cares. Or maybe it is the body reacting to slightly new medications as in a turbo effect of it all. Takes me back to Salvadore, Brazil many many years ago where a friend gave me 100mg of Viagra and i popped the hole tablet. Back then, 15 years ago or so, i was slightly under norwegian international top level of crosscountryskiing. So in other words relatively good shape. The Salvadore girl i found from Club Europe i banged almost constantly, with a boner, incl multiple ejaculations, for around 24hrs. I send her to see a doc bcs her legs did not move properly when deed finished. Felt almost the same today/tonight except from the general shape. After 1 hr of constant banging i feel drenched these days. I guess drinking and snus isnt that healthy after all damn it:-)
Sam14: do I realy need to take it under my tounge. How much better can those things work realy? I remember my grandfather in his late years used to pop a nitroglyserine tab under his tounge when he felt his heart was stopping or he couldnt breathe. His heart did not work properly as he was shot by som nazi(he was in the resistant movement during WW2)and the bullet stroke parts of his heart(luckely it is not in family genetics as i am far from that brave, hehe).
And the best part is i did not look like a redish(like when i do Viagra), no headache and no heat feel. The only simularity of bad side effects(the good one is well described above)i could recognize was the trouble of cumming(juicing those pukies up)..
Reading the warnings following all meds, and its sideeffects, i have to say i paid attention to one chapter: if u loose your hearingability stop immidiately using these drugs and see a doc, haha. Well i can still hear the snores from 9pm girl so i am good..
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1733233]
So 50 MG of this shit seems like 100 MG Viagra ro me. Maybe it was the excitement of finding some supportvitamin doing the plasibo to me, who knows and who cares. Or maybe it is the body reacting to slightly new medications as in a turbo effect of it all. Takes me back to Salvadore, Brazil many many years ago where a friend gave me 100mg of Viagra and i popped the hole tablet. Back then, 15 years ago or so, i was slightly under norwegian international top level of crosscountryskiing. So in other words relatively good shape. [/QUOTE]Skogs the Rite Med you are taking is actually the same formulation as the original brand name Pfizer Viagra (sildenafil) so I wonder why you think you are not getting the normal Sildenafil side-effects?
As I understand it, you are still relatively young and you shouldn't need to keep popping this stuff (including Kamagra etc) unless, as you explained, you were tired and had some marathon sessions coming up and you wanted to keep going for several different women.
Your body will become accustomed to requiring it if you take the ED drugs even when your body doesn't actually need it.
I know a young pinoy guy (now mid-20's) who was taking Viagra a few years ago (even though he didn't need it) so he could really wow his GF with his apparent stamina but now he finds that he cannot get a boner unless he takes it. It's in the brain as well as a physiological response.
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1733455]Skogs the Rite Med you are taking is actually the same formulation as the original brand name Pfizer Viagra (sildenafil) so I wonder why you think you are not getting the normal Sildenafil side-effects?
As I understand it, you are still relatively young and you shouldn't need to keep popping this stuff (including Kamagra etc) unless, as you explained, you were tired and had some marathon sessions coming up and you wanted to keep going for several different women.
Your body will become accustomed to requiring it if you take the ED drugs even when your body doesn't actually need it.
I know a young pinoy guy (now mid-20's) who was taking Viagra a few years ago (even though he didn't need it) so he could really wow his GF with his apparent stamina but now he finds that he cannot get a boner unless he takes it. It's in the brain as well as a physiological response.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more. And I use only support meds when my dick thinks its enough fucking for a while. Then I can not delude him into another pukie. I have had a relatively busy sched so far so yesterday as decribed I needed one. I have used top brand Viagra a few times (the one describe was more a testrun and I did not quite know what I was putting in my body). I use it only now and then and while fucking the misses back home on a regular base I do not need any suuport. It is only to cope with the numbers of sessions here in phils / thai or wherever I do feel the need. In most cases it is actually enough just knowing I have them in my bag as a support as it calms my mind down. Strange but true. But I hear your warning and others should take that one in. I have heard of guys myself doing pills in to young age beeing unable to performe without drugs when they get older. Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1733468]Couldn't agree more. And I use only support meds when my dick thinks its enough fucking for a while. Then I can not delude him into another pukie. I have had a relatively busy sched so far so yesterday as decribed I needed one. I have used top brand Viagra a few times (the one describe was more a testrun and I did not quite know what I was putting in my body). I use it only now and then and while fucking the misses back home on a regular base I do not need any suuport. It is only to cope with the numbers of sessions here in phils / thai or wherever I do feel the need. In most cases it is actually enough just knowing I have them in my bag as a support as it calms my mind down. Strange but true. But I hear your warning and others should take that one in. I have heard of guys myself doing pills in to young age beeing unable to performe without drugs when they get older. Thanks.[/QUOTE]You can build a psychological dependency to Viagra if you take it before it is actually needed. Your brain is tricked into thinking that you can't achieve an erection without medication. I just wish they would create something to increase libido without increasing aggression and muscle build. My endocrinologist told me that low libido as you get older is not necessarily related to falling testosterone levels.
I often wonder with your busy punting schedules (not just you Skogis, but the bulk of mongerers to PI and LOS), do you keep fucking for the sake of fucking, or do you like to session 2-3 times a day because your libido is still high and you are genuinely excited? I'm perfectly happy with one punt a day, but whatever floats your boat I guess.
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[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1733481]You can build a psychological dependency to Viagra if you take it before it is actually needed. Your brain is tricked into thinking that you can't achieve an erection without medication. I just wish they would create something to increase libido without increasing aggression and muscle build. My endocrinologist told me that low libido as you get older is not necessarily related to falling testosterone levels.
I often wonder with your busy punting schedules (not just you Skogis, but the bulk of mongerers to PI and LOS), do you keep fucking for the sake of fucking, or do you like to session 2-3 times a day because your libido is still high and you are genuinely excited? I'm perfectly happy with one punt a day, but whatever floats your boat I guess.[/QUOTE]Let's just say I have "issues" and a little help is required. I fully agree that probably 95% of it is in the brain. I discovered recently that high T does not necessarily equate to rock hard erections or high libido: your body can turn that high T into fucking female estrogens. How about that?! Messed up or what. But yeah, be careful with the V whether "actual" Viagra or the medically exact same generic. (FWIW yes I have a supply of what Skogis posted, albeit 100mg that I cut into thirds)
Actually I'm more intrigued at how Skogis explains to his missus that he's off to the Philippines! {grin}.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1733233]
Sam14: do I realy need to take it under my tounge. How much better can those things work realy? [/QUOTE]It's very bitter. The taste may take you out of the mood.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1733233]And the best part is i did not look like a redish(like when i do Viagra), no headache and no heat feel. The only simularity of bad side effects(the good one is well described above)i could recognize was the trouble of cumming(juicing those pukies up)..
Reading the warnings following all meds, and its sideeffects, i have to say i paid attention to one chapter: if u loose your hearingability stop immidiately using these drugs and see a doc, haha. Well i can still hear the snores from 9pm girl so i am good..[/QUOTE]I've tested Andros, RiteMed and Tigerfil and the herbal Robust. With the Andros I had the blue haze in my vision but didn't experience it with the others. I found sometimes these would aggravate my stomach and cause some severe heartburn.
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[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1733481]I often wonder with your busy punting schedules (not just you Skogis, but the bulk of mongerers to PI and LOS), do you keep fucking for the sake of fucking, or do you like to session 2-3 times a day because your libido is still high and you are genuinely excited? I'm perfectly happy with one punt a day, but whatever floats your boat I guess.[/QUOTE]To me is the crave for new pukie. I am not here for "making the love" nor am I here to have as many pussies under my belt as possible (how strange it might sound). It is pure lust in my case. I get tired from same pussy easily (have felt so for the last 20 years or so). I can just not help it. But I bare my vits with me and don't do just any pussy for the sake of pussy (even if it might seem so). I pick pussies, and nice ones, only very close to my location (normaly 30-40 driving distance max) so waitingprocess is hazzlefree and I can also do some unwinding in between. 3-4 punts a day is normal when I stay 4/5 days. If I stay up to 14 days I do less each day. Love new pussy. But I do have a few regulars in between and them I treat almost as normal dates bcs they deserve it (allways overnighters). I have also start to throw duos into our beloved game.
And ofcourse, without knowing what is a normal libido level, i love sex and i consider myself an sexaddict.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1733531]It's very bitter. The taste may take you out of the mood.
I've tested Andros, RiteMed and Tigerfil and the herbal Robust. With the Andros I had the blue haze in my vision but didn't experience it with the others. I found sometimes these would aggravate my stomach and cause some severe heartburn.[/QUOTE]RiteMed (RM) did to me nothing in the side effects department. But gave me a strong, almost everlasting, boner haha. Still living on the tablet from yesterday. 2 girls done today (3 if I incl the overnighter). Works fine. I will try pick up my luggage now with the arriving Turkish shit airline at T1, so I can reunite with my dear Kamagra gel. But I will probably buy some more pks of RM. Nr 3 girl on hold until airport biz finished.
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2 photos
What the girls have missed so far.
Finaly got my bag from shitty Turkish Airlines. No one in charge even asked if I wanted some sort of compensation (that is not Turkish Airline personell I know but plain ground handling staff). I leave that issue until I get back home and get in a better fighting possition (my inhouse lawyer specialize in airline matters). Not bcs of money but bcs of the princip. Never in my life been treated this way by any airline, beeing eco or biz passenger whatsoever. The aftermath will come upon them. What i will get i will donate to UNICEF.
By the way here are so far what the girls have missed out. Well to some I have bought some compensating Swiss chcolate at Marks&Spensers but even so. It will be a lot of chocolate for the remaining girls my last few days.
It seems chocolate are on everyones lips here:-)
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[QUOTE=Simmer;1733486] <Snip> I discovered recently that high T does not necessarily equate to rock hard erections or high libido: your body can turn that high T into fucking female estrogens.[/QUOTE]Thats right. It's called estradiol, or E2. As men age, some of our testosterone converts to estrogen. The scientific way to say it is the aromatase enzyme binds to testosterone and chemically converts it to estradiol. One reason is a diet too high in protein from allot of meat. If you're getting old, you should have it checked. The range should be 20-30 pg / ml. Because high E2 isn't just bad for libido, it thickens the carotid artery wall, so it increases your risk of stroke and heart attack.
You can try to fix it the right way with diet, or you can try to fix it with aromatase inhibitors (AI) like anastrozole (brand name Arimidex "adex". There are others that aren't as harsh. [URL]http://www.lifeextension.com/Magazine/2008/11/Dangers-of-Excess-Estrogen-in-the-Aging-Male/Page-01[/URL].
[QUOTE=Skogis;1733233] <Snip> Sam14: do I realy need to take it under my tounge. How much better can those things work realy? [/QUOTE]No! The only thing that could work better in your case is a jack hammer.
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[QUOTE=Amanut;1732967]I have to agree with you. Frankly I have little in common with young women, and mature Filipinas know what they like and what they would like to try. I haven't been back to the Philippines in a couple of years, but in my last trips I have focused almost exclusively on ladies in their early to late thirties, and even early forties and have yet to be disappointed. They have their fantasies and are realize their chances of living them out are slowly slipping away. My posting history is exclusively about mature Filipinas.
I have said previously that the tightest woman I was ever with was a forty plus year old single spinner who had never been married. The only way I could enter her was for her to get on top and slowly insert me at which point the sky was the limit including BBBJ and CIM for the first time. They will do everything in their power to satisfy the man they are with and themselves.
Keep our secret Riverstar.[/QUOTE]I have tried to post for info on this subject before, actually last time had some good discussion about the topic. Usually when this comes up, posts are"why would you come here for "old" Filipinos (30+), "Filipinos don't age well", etc. I plan on the next trip trying a few 40+ women, but would be interested in hearing about actual experiences.
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Chocolates
[QUOTE=Skogis;1733625] It seems chocolate are on everyones lips here:-)[/QUOTE]Yes I noticed this too. Many of the girls I met online before my trip to PI last year asked me to bring them chocolates. I thought this was a bit strange. You can buy them there. I don't think they are that much more expensive (I never checked price). Maybe it's a cultural thing?(in the Balkans its customary to gift people coffee from abroad as they like to try different kinds). Or are they just too poor to afford chocolate? (the very thought makes me sad).
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Chocolate treats
I always bring at least 6 boxes from Hawaii, mostly choco covered macadamia nuts. The girls tell me that the chocolate from America tastes better than the chocolate they buy locally.
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[QUOTE=MrHawaii;1733789]I always bring at least 6 boxes from Hawaii, mostly choco covered macadamia nuts. The girls tell me that the chocolate from America tastes better than the chocolate they buy locally.[/QUOTE]That's only because they have never tried decent Cadburys or Swiss / Belgian chocolate Mr H. Once they eat that they realize Hersheys is an excuse for the real thing LOL.
Seriously, the flavour mix is screwed up here. Look at from where the product is imported gives a clue as to why is can be so lacking in flavour.
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[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1733814]That's only because they have never tried decent Cadburys or Swiss / Belgian chocolate Mr H. Once they eat that they realize Hersheys is an excuse for the real thing LOL.
Seriously, the flavour mix is screwed up here. Look at from where the product is imported gives a clue as to why is can be so lacking in flavour.[/QUOTE]Wicked; the norwegian one "Stratos" or "Melkesjokolade" is also well known in my line of girls. They seem to love it. Haha. I agree though that Belgian chocolate is smashing.
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1733910]Wicked; the norwegian one "Stratos" or "Melkesjokolade" is also well known in my line of girls. They seem to love it. Haha. I agree though that Belgian chocolate is smashing.[/QUOTE]The best to resolve this Skogis is maybe I come to Manila, meet your girls and let them try my 'chocolate' versus Norwegian or they could try them the same time LOL Taste test?
Seriously I think pinay like any chocolate as it is something considered a 'treat'/ special and thus to be savored.
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Aspirations of Girls from Developing Nations
On my visit to Manila last month I stayed at the Diamond Hotel because it is about 200 m away from LA Cafe. The contestants to Miss Philippines Earth were also staying at the Diamond at the same time and I was fortunate enough to share the lift with them on a number of occasions. Young, tall, leggy, beautiful, educated and well dressed, they were indeed a contrast to the bar girls I had just spent time with before in AC and Subic and soon to be from LA Cafe. Despite their luck in being born into wealthy families, their conversations with each other were childlike and superficial, just like any other Filipino. One of them wanted to go to the gym at 9. 00 pm and miss a function as she thought she was getting fat!! I thought to myself that dating one of them would be drama x 100.
When I got into my room, I googled this event and read the bios of the girls. Just about all of them were studying marketing or communications at university. Most of them said they wanted to be "international cabin crew" in the future. It's only in developing countries where the role of cabin crew is so coveted and considered glamourous. I look at their counterparts in Australia, well educated women from good families. None of them would ever aspire to a career as a trolley dolly. For them it be would be environmental activism, law, journalism or corporate marketing. The really brainy ones would say medicine.
On a similar note, I read a Time magazine article on a Thai Airways flight about 20 years ago. It said that many of the cabin crew on Thai Airways were the daughters of military generals or politicians. A quick glance at the Rolex Lady Datejust watches on their wrists confirmed this. No dark skinned Issan girls for Thai Airways!!
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[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1733955]
When I got into my room, I googled this event and read the bios of the girls. Just about all of them were studying marketing or communications at university. Most of them said they wanted to be "international cabin crew" in the future. It's only in developing countries where the role of cabin crew is so coveted and considered glamourous. I look at their counterparts in Australia, well educated women from good families. None of them would ever aspire to a career as a trolley dolly. For them it be would be environmental activism, law, journalism or corporate marketing. The really brainy ones would say medicine.
On a similar note, I read a Time magazine article on a Thai Airways flight about 20 years ago. It said that many of the cabin crew on Thai Airways were the daughters of military generals or politicians. A quick glance at the Rolex Lady Datejust watches on their wrists confirmed this. No dark skinned Issan girls for Thai Airways!![/QUOTE]I can word this as I have 3 pinay cabin crews I fuck in an unknown rotation system (depends a tad where in the world they are and where I am). One Cathay Pacific, one Philippine Airlines and one Qatar. Used to have a Cebu Pacific one but she decided to be true to her BF. They are rather high educated and in any other normal country these girls would have maintained well paid high ranking jobs in big corporations/gwmnts. Working longhaul as servants seems a dream in phils that sadly only a few can obtain. I guess the many other good jobs are blocked by rather useless people belonging to the ones that realy rule this country (ie the ceo of Clark airport). The girls I know they don't complain as the Qatar girl can earn close up to 100 k php a month (per diem incl).
But to give the models a bit benefits of the doubt also many of them western sisters even with high edu also sometimes work as cabincrews. I know this atleast for Scandinavian Airlines and Norwegian. I know girls there even edu as lawyers working the cabin. It is still considered to be a glamor job. The pay have gone down and the workdays by far longer than it used to and the pay is less. I guess many dream about stop overs in fancy global cities but atleast for flights from Norway to the USA(east coast)it is only one day stay(only 7hrs flight time). To west coast it is 2 days stay. Qatar and Cathay seems to hav more generous resting times..
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1733960]I can word this as I have 3 pinay cabin crews I fuck in an unknown rotation system (depends a tad where in the world they are and where I am). One Cathay Pacific, one Philippine Airlines and one Qatar. [/QUOTE]You are indeed a lucky man. Would I be right if I said your real name is Morten Harket? Only a rock star could keep up with you. The question we want answered is how can you monger so much abroad and still have a missus back home?
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[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1733975]You are indeed a lucky man. Would I be right if I said your real name is Morten Harket? Only a rock star could keep up with you. The question we want answered is how can you monger so much abroad and still have a missus back home?[/QUOTE]ED; this was almost a scary comment. First of all I was listening to Morten Harkets, "Kamilla og tyven", "Brother" and "spanish steps" when I saw your comment. Secondly I have dated Camilla Harket after she split from A-Ha's Morten Harket.
I lie my ass off to my GF saying I have to do biz here and there. As she is half pinay / half norwegian she would never allow me go phils so I never say I am here. I carry 2 passports, one for domestic use my GF can see with only innocent stamps and my monger one with loads of stamps from Phils and Thailand. I invest in property so that is my excuse now to travel. But when we met 7 years ago she was used to me travelling 270 days a year. Now I have lowered this down to 200-230 days as we have a babydaughter together and I want to do the dad stuffs as well.
So basically I just continued doing what she is used to and did not change to much. You would probably think she is stupid but I have allways kept my biz away from her so she doesn't actually see anything different from when we met. I let her in on some small investments i have here and there but they are all domestic ones as I realy don't invest in shady countries like phils ex maybe buying an apartment in the Park Terraces / Makati for my phil baby (so she has property when she grow up).
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[QUOTE=Sam14;1733681]Thats right. It's called estradiol, or E2. As men age, some of our testosterone converts to estrogen. The scientific way to say it is the aromatase enzyme binds to testosterone and chemically converts it to estradiol. One reason is a diet too high in protein from allot of meat. If you're getting old, you should have it checked. The range should be 20-30 pg / ml. Because high E2 isn't just bad for libido, it thickens the carotid artery wall, so it increases your risk of stroke and heart attack.
You can try to fix it the right way with diet, or you can try to fix it with aromatase inhibitors (AI) like anastrozole (brand name Arimidex "adex". There are others that aren't as harsh. [URL]http://www.lifeextension.com/Magazine/2008/11/Dangers-of-Excess-Estrogen-in-the-Aging-Male/Page-01[/URL].
No! The only thing that could work better in your case is a jack hammer.[/QUOTE]Kind of a long read, but interesting.
[URL]http://www.ion.ac.uk/information/onarchives/autumnbiosignature-modulation-weight-loss-through-hormone-balance[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Sam14;1733681]Thats right. It's called estradiol, or E2. As men age, some of our testosterone converts to estrogen. The scientific way to say it is the aromatase enzyme binds to testosterone and chemically converts it to estradiol. One reason is a diet too high in protein from allot of meat. If you're getting old, you should have it checked. The range should be 20-30 pg / ml. Because high E2 isn't just bad for libido, it thickens the carotid artery wall, so it increases your risk of stroke and heart attack.
You can try to fix it the right way with diet, or you can try to fix it with aromatase inhibitors (AI) like anastrozole (brand name Arimidex "adex". There are others that aren't as harsh. [URL]http://www.lifeextension.com/Magazine/2008/11/Dangers-of-Excess-Estrogen-in-the-Aging-Male/Page-01[/URL].
No! The only thing that could work better in your case is a jack hammer.[/QUOTE]You're exactly right. You should become an endocrinologist, since mine knows absolutely fuck all about it. Went to him and asked for an E2 test as the injections weren't working, he laughed and said no way. Went and got tested using cash out of my pocket ($45) and what do you know? 52 Fifty fucking two. As you say, the normal range is significantly lower than that.
I can't even get another endo, at least not without paying cash, such is the crap health "insurance" I have.
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V for Valour
Skog,
Wish I was there to give you some. I get lots of free Cialis samples from my Doc here in LOS Angeles.
Go to Burgos. I am not sure exactly which cross street, but it is very close to Makati Avenue. There is a generic pharmacy. It is either on General Luna or Gurerro Street. Half a block from Makati Avenue (eastwards, towards Salamanca). No need for prescription and they will sell you real Viagra. The blue pill. It is about 600 P per pill. Just don't be shy!
Good luck.
CT
[QUOTE=Skogis;1732629]I have since my arrival here been without bags (they are stuck in Istanbul) and in my bags I did have many pk of Kamagra gel. I have been fucking now on good old steam but I have ran oit of powers. I used the search engine here for "viagra" and found a clever member suggesting going to Mercury and claim you lost your prescription. HM, well I tried that in 3 Mercuries now and they don't accept this excuse of mine and the same goes for any generics as RiteMed, Andros and Tigerfil.
So any of you fine gents know how to get some support medication? I have dates coming in here and no power so I end up just fingering them and out they go. And please only accurate information on where and not "I heard from a friend that thinks a cousin of him got some doing this or that".
I know I ask for a lot but I will be more than greatful.
Thanks in advance.
I know ofcourse I can buy street medics but, even if the plasibo effect is strong, I want to stay away from swallowing paint or poison.[/QUOTE]
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Warning: tongue in chocolate cheeks
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1733925]The best to resolve this Skogis is maybe I come to Manila, meet your girls and let them try my 'chocolate' versus Norwegian or they could try them the same time LOL Taste test?
Seriously I think pinay like any chocolate as it is something considered a 'treat'/ special and thus to be savored.[/QUOTE]You guys are fucking up the market for the rest of us by giving out great chocolates. Now the girls won't go with me because I only have Cheap Charlie Chocolate. The other night a FL asked me what kind of chocolates I had for her. This was even before we talked about price. When I said Hershey's from merica, she just walked away. You two week chocolate millionaires have ruined the market!
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[QUOTE=Skogis;1733960]
. I guess many dream about stop overs in fancy global cities but atleast for flights from Norway to the USA(east coast)it is only one day stay(only 7hrs flight time). To west coast it is 2 days stay. Qatar and Cathay seems to hav more generous resting times..[/QUOTE]But its also changed a lot even with Cathay. They used to do an anchorage flight where it was a 6 days rest. 5 in new Zealand, 5 in sydney, 5 in Johannesburg, 4-5 in LA, and 4-5 in London. Now with many home based crews (ie crews who live in Sydney or london or auckland etc, they accommodate them in HK in a large hotel that is just for Cathay staff, and give them generally no more than a one day turnaround. Good old days long gone.
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[QUOTE=George03;1733705]I have tried to post for info on this subject before, actually last time had some good discussion about the topic. Usually when this comes up, posts are"why would you come here for "old" Filipinos (30+), "Filipinos don't age well", etc. I plan on the next trip trying a few 40+ women, but would be interested in hearing about actual experiences.[/QUOTE]
George, rather than bore people repeating my limited contributions, take a look at my posting history. I think most of my posts have been on MILFs. Be careful, some can be more skillfully experienced manipulators who have mastered the art of deception superior to their younger counterparts. The upside is that the ladies that I have met understand the meetings, and as a result I have maintained occasional contact with them and will meet some of them again when I go back. Normally a young Filipina will get bored and move on if you are not arriving within a few weeks. My experience is that a bit more time to build a bit of a friendship with a MILF pays rewards. PM me if you wish.
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New member here. First visit this September
Hello everyone,
I am a new member and will be making my first ever Philippines trip this Sept and am just now in the beginning planning stages.
I have already bought airline tickets and am staying at the New World Manila Bay for 9 nights total. I am mid 40's and in decent shape physically.
My (so far) plan is to walk to La Cafe and Amazonia and come back to my room with the girl. As well I will walk to Robinsons Place mall and see what that may bring me.
Some other times I will take a taxi to Makati or maybe some different researched areas.
Angeles is not in my plans as I will need to make myself appear at least a few times at a conference happening in the city so I want to stay in Manila.
My questions so far:
Are there enough places to eat (walking distance) around the New World Manila Bay and Ermita? Say twenty minutes walk or less from the hotel.
I don't want to be in traffic too much going from here to there.
Are there many ATMS around the area? I think the mall should have one at least. I want an ATM which is indoors in a safe and well lit area.
What is the situation with the massage places around the area? Yes, I know I can simply just get a massage from a woman in my room but sometimes I do like to check those massage places out. But I don't want to waste my time on one unless I know for certain the ending is what I am looking for.
Can a non guest / woman just hang out with me at the pool on the lounge chairs for a while, say an hour or two, as long as I am paying for food and drinks at the bar?
Also are there any laundry places nearby that would wash and dry and deliver my laundry back to me so I do not have to use the hotel laundry?
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[QUOTE=NWGuy;1735041]
Are there many ATMS around the area? I think the mall should have one at least. I want an ATM which is indoors in a safe and well lit area.
What is the situation with the massage places around the area? Yes, I know I can simply just get a massage from a woman in my room but sometimes I do like to check those massage places out. But I don't want to waste my time on one unless I know for certain the ending is what I am looking for.
Can a non guest / woman just hang out with me at the pool on the lounge chairs for a while, say an hour or two, as long as I am paying for food and drinks at the bar?
Also are there any laundry places nearby that would wash and dry and deliver my laundry back to me so I do not have to use the hotel laundry?[/QUOTE]I had to Google your hotel and it seems to me that the Hyatt has been sold. If the hotel is the old Hyatt, there is a casino in the hotel and a few ATM's inside. Your plan for LA Cafe is good, as is Robinson's.
Don't forget about EDSA Complex, as it is closer then Makati.
Happy Trip!
Robb.
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[QUOTE=NWGuy;1735041]
Are there enough places to eat (walking distance) around the New World Manila Bay and Ermita? Say twenty minutes walk or less from the hotel.
Are there many ATMS around the area? I think the mall should have one at least. I want an ATM which is indoors in a safe and well lit area.
Can a non guest / woman just hang out with me at the pool on the lounge chairs for a while, say an hour or two, as long as I am paying for food and drinks at the bar?[/QUOTE]You have time to RTFF the forum and its Manila section so I answer only your questions which may be hard to find on this forum.
New Manila Bay Hotel has a great restaurant "Fireplace". You have a MC Donalds close by and Robinson mall (5 min walks have decent rstaurants). If you have Residence club (excecutive club) access they also serve nice meals and drinks from 6 pm to 8 pm. You can bring in one guest here. If more you have to pay for it. I never did though as I only unwind here alone and free from girls in my vicinity. No problem bring them by the pool either which I also never did. The hotel have other bars and restos as well and as long as bills are beeing paid I would dare to say you can bring as many as you like.
In the hotellobby and its entrance to the Casino you have 3 ATMs which all worked relatively great on my stays.
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[QUOTE=Amanut;1734696]George, rather than bore people repeating my limited contributions, take a look at my posting history. I think most of my posts have been on MILFs. Be careful, some can be more skillfully experienced manipulators who have mastered the art of deception superior to their younger counterparts. The upside is that the ladies that I have met understand the meetings, and as a result I have maintained occasional contact with them and will meet some of them again when I go back. Normally a young Filipina will get bored and move on if you are not arriving within a few weeks. My experience is that a bit more time to build a bit of a friendship with a MILF pays rewards. PM me if you wish.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I read your posts. I made two trips to Phil. Probably because of ready the forums, I did a mix of Manila Cafe, FC girls, etc. Also did the same in Cebu and Davao.
Turned out good for me both trips. My long terms were with 30+, but I have no problem with attractive mid 40's or older. The key word is, attractive. (I am in my 50's). I plan on a longer trip next time, so will do some of my own research!
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[QUOTE=Robbaf;1735060]I had to Google your hotel and it seems to me that the Hyatt has been sold. If the hotel is the old Hyatt, there is a casino in the hotel and a few ATM's inside. Your plan for LA Cafe is good, as is Robinson's.
Robb.[/QUOTE]"Old " is a misnomer here as there was an old old Hyatt on corner or Edsa and Roxas that lost its Hyatt flag, once Hyatt signed up for the new Hyatt near Robinsons.
New World company is the owner of what was the Hyatt in Ermita (the old Hyatt) and saw the chance to add another New World hotel once Hyatt signed up as operator of the City of Dreams hotel.
Hotel operators sometimes have geographical restrictions placed on them so that there can't be several similar brands in same towns. Shangri La is different as they generally own some or all of their own hotels so they don't impose the same restrictions on themselves.
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[QUOTE=NWGuy;1735041]Hello everyone,
My (so far) plan is to walk to La Cafe and Amazonia and come back to my room with the girl. As well I will walk to Robinsons Place mall and see what that may bring me.
Angeles is not in my plans as I will need to make myself appear at least a few times at a conference happening in the city so I want to stay in Manila.
Are there enough places to eat (walking distance) around the New World Manila Bay and Ermita? Say twenty minutes walk or less from the hotel.
What is the situation with the massage places around the area? Yes, I know I can simply just get a massage from a woman in my room but sometimes I do like to check those massage places out. But I don't want to waste my time on one unless I know for certain the ending is what I am looking for.
Can a non guest / woman just hang out with me at the pool on the lounge chairs for a while, say an hour or two, as long as I am paying for food and drinks at the bar?
Also are there any laundry places nearby that would wash and dry and deliver my laundry back to me so I do not have to use the hotel laundry?[/QUOTE]1. You are in a perfect location for cheap mongering. All hotels in the area are girl friendly. Your rate for ST from LA Cafe should be around PHP 2000 - 2500, plus a drink for the lady while you conduct the interview. Many girls at LA Cafe work in pairs, so if a threesome is what you want, then a threesome you will find. Rate will be around 4000 - 5000 for the pair. From Robinson Mall, the rate should be around PHP 1000. Always pay afterwards.
2. If you can possibly escape your conference for an overnight trip to AC, then you should do it. You won't regret it. Just a warning that if you go to AC, your life may never be the same again. A taxi from Ermita to AC will cost about 2500 - 2800 PHP and will take 2-3 hours depending on the time of day. A Canadian gentlemen has written a rather poignant article on how AC truly and utterly fucked up his life as he became addicted to the beautiful women there. The article is on Stickman's BKK site.
3. Ermita has hundreds of smaller restaurants, including an excellent kebab / shwarma joint about 50 m from LA Cafe. Robinson Mall has every type of food imaginable in the food court. If you go to Robinson before the 10.00 am opening, you can hang out at Starbucks at the entrance and enjoy the free wifi with your grande soy latte. You can even have breakfast, lunch and dinner at LA Cafe. The place is open 24-hours a day.
4. I've only been to the legitimate massage places in Ermita and Malate and you can tell upon entry as they usually have flimsy curtains as dividers. I'm sure there are others that provide extras. Malate, which is a 15 minute walk away has a number of Korean massage places which probably have the Korean style scrub, followed by FS. I'm not sure if a non-Korean would be welcome there.
5. Yes, no problem with hanging out with your girl at the pool as long as she is with you. No one will bat an eye lid. I've taken the sluttiest looking wh0 res through the main entrance at the Diamond Hotel many times. (Complete with partial bleached hair, ripped shorts, singlet, hideous make up, bling and fake LV handbag). Just act like you own the goddam joint. They will all address your lady friend as "Ma'am".
6. Yes, plenty of laundry places in the back streets of Ermita. Just go for a walk.
Just a few more tips. If you are going out at night in Ermita or Malate for a pickup, leave your Rolex, iPhone, passport and wallet in the hotel room safe. I usually just keep about PHP 8,000 in my front pocket of my jeans. I'm not saying it's dangerous, but why take a risk? The area is well lit and always crowded, so you should be fine.
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[QUOTE=George03;1733705]I have tried to post for info on this subject before, actually last time had some good discussion about the topic. Usually when this comes up, posts are"why would you come here for "old" Filipinos (30+), "Filipinos don't age well", etc. I plan on the next trip trying a few 40+ women, but would be interested in hearing about actual experiences.[/QUOTE]I posted about MILFs many moons ago before iron buffalo roamed the plains.
I've met several middle-aged women on the dating sites and have had mixed results.
The two best were single mothers (one never married and the other separated) of late-teenaged and adult children. Both are gainfully employed. Yes, they were looking for relationships. But both were open to a fubu arrangement; one had gone without sex for 17 years to raise her daughter, and once she entered uni mom decided that she would no longer sit on the sidelines. Though middle-aged both were fit (no stretch marks and minor boob deflation) and were happy doing anything and everything in the bed. It was a pleasure to be with them because they have careers, both speak English very well and one lived in England for several years. A so-so one was a then 51-year-old separated mom of two. Not chubby but certainly not tight. Doughy. Mediocre English. Met a few times and it was enough for me. Lastly there was one disappointment; 41-year-old separated mother of three who is a knock out. Great body on her. In her younger days she was a legit beauty queen. She lived her entire life with everyone kissing her bottom so she behaved like a spoilt child. I remember one night she had a first date with some bloke, it didn't go well, and she spent the following hours sending me texts demanding I come meet her. She's a wealthy woman who's surrounded be a coterie of gays who exist to fawn over her. She was looking for a boyfriend and eager to meet. I declined repeatedly until she adjusted her wants and accepted a fubu arrangement. I doubted her sincerity but we met several times. Of course it ended badly as she genuinely wanted a boyfriend and couldn't accept my boundaries - she even called herself "clingy and paranoid".
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I used to stay at the hotel when it was the Hyatt. It's a bit grimy of an area, so don't get surprised. Although I felt pretty safe in that area, some people might get spooked.
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Are there enough places to eat (walking distance) around the New World Manila Bay and Ermita? Say twenty minutes walk or less from the hotel.[/QUOTE]Yes, tons of places within a 5 minute walk. A large concentration of Japanese / Korean restaurants, but Robinson's mall will give you other alternatives as well.
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Are there many ATMS around the area? I think the mall should have one at least. I want an ATM which is indoors in a safe and well lit area.[/QUOTE]Use the BPI ATM in the attached casino -- it's on the very ground floor by a few massage chairs by the entrance leading outside (same building as the hotel). It has the highest withdraw limit of 20,000 PHP, so it will save you on ATM fees. Other ATMs will max out at 10,000 PHP. Also, BPI has a branch next to Robinson's Mall. (note: the casino ATM has run out of money several times when I've used it and it takes many days for it to be working again.).
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What is the situation with the massage places around the area? Yes, I know I can simply just get a massage from a woman in my room but sometimes I do like to check those massage places out. But I don't want to waste my time on one unless I know for certain the ending is what I am looking for.[/QUOTE]Good luck with that. The hotel massage is 2,000 PHP and extras may be declined. There is one HJ place a few blocks away, but that was pricey too at 1,300 PHP not including tip. My guess is you are better to negotiate with a freelancer at LA Cafe or the other 2 bars in the neighborhood and get them to massage you + extras. Personally, I would separate the 2 activities. Get a legit massage for 300-400 pesos and then "hire" someone for extras. Also, you can call any of the random massage places online and get someone delivered. I did that once and was thumbs down. Also, I had to give my full name which annoyed me, so the massage girl could say it at the front desk.
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Also are there any laundry places nearby that would wash and dry and deliver my laundry back to me so I do not have to use the hotel laundry?[/QUOTE]Yes, right across the street on Mabini next to the 7-11. It's literally like a 1 min walk. It doubles as a fx exchange place. (opposite side of Manila Bay) Don't use that one to change money, go to Robinson's mall on the 3rd floor seems to have the best rates (at least the few that I checked). If you can find a Czarina as well, they seem to have very good rates (actually, at times better than the spot rate which is weird).
Yes, plan on some traffic if you are going outside the area. Although, it's probably only a 10-15 minute taxi ride to the EDSA complex at 9-10 pm at night. Even P Burgos in Makati will should only take about 20-30 minutes during the same hours.
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Thanks so much + a few more things
Thanks so much everybody for the replies and help. It is really appreciated everyone.
A couple more things: For my cash do you feel the room safe is OK to use or should I only use the safe deposit desk at the front desk?
And for the average looking (lets say she is at best a "6") to barely above average (lets says she is a "7" and that is pushing it) and her age is definitely over 30 women at LA Cafe or Amazonia what would be a fair rate (including a tip) for her for say a whole afternoon and into the evening? Like, we go to dinner somewhere decent sit down style (Not a fast food place) and eat and hang out and talk, then we have some drinks afterwards, and then walk back to the room to play. But she does not spend the night after we play she leaves.
I already paid for both of our meals and drinks, so what would be a good rate and tip for that situation? It would be about nine hours lets say? from like 2 in the afternoon till 11 pm or so.
And also the exact same question if she was like say 23 years old (max) and gorgeous and she knew it too.
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[QUOTE=Amanut;1732967]I have to agree with you. Frankly I have little in common with young women, and mature Filipinas know what they like and what they would like to try. I haven't been back to the Philippines in a couple of years, but in my last trips I have focused almost exclusively on ladies in their early to late thirties, and even early forties and have yet to be disappointed. They have their fantasies and are realize their chances of living them out are slowly slipping away. My posting history is exclusively about mature Filipinas.
I have said previously that the tightest woman I was ever with was a forty plus year old single spinner who had never been married. The only way I could enter her was for her to get on top and slowly insert me at which point the sky was the limit including BBBJ and CIM for the first time. They will do everything in their power to satisfy the man they are with and themselves.
Keep our secret Riverstar.[/QUOTE]I think I am going to be joining you two in this over 30's women club. Count me in. Also if you would like to suggest any free date sites or other sites to me I am all ears.
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[QUOTE=NWGuy;1735418]Thanks so much everybody for the replies and help. It is really appreciated everyone.
A couple more things: For my cash do you feel the room safe is OK to use or should I only use the safe deposit desk at the front desk?
I already paid for both of our meals and drinks, so what would be a good rate and tip for that situation? It would be about nine hours lets say? from like 2 in the afternoon till 11 pm or so.
.[/QUOTE]It is extremely safe to keep your dough and valuables in the safe in the room. It's convenient also as you have access to your stuff when you want.
LT rates are approx 3000 pesos. As I had picked up a woman around 11 pm and she left the next day 11 am. 2 pops. Decent tip is 200 to 300 pesos but you can hand over more if you are extremely happy with the service.
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[QUOTE=NWGuy;1735418]Thanks so much everybody for the replies and help. It is really appreciated everyone.
A couple more things: For my cash do you feel the room safe is OK to use or should I only use the safe deposit desk at the front desk?
I already paid for both of our meals and drinks, so what would be a good rate and tip for that situation? It would be about nine hours lets say? from like 2 in the afternoon till 11 pm or so. And also the exact same question if she was like say 23 years old (max) and gorgeous and she knew it too.[/QUOTE]You are staying at a quality hotel, so room safe should be fine. It's a pain to have to go to the front desk each time.
There is no "set rate" for the scenarios you have described. It's what you can negotiate and what she will accept. Many of the girls that come to LA Cafe are semi-pros. That is, they might only come in a couple of times a week to earn enough to pay their rent, utility bills, kid's medicine, phone load etc. While your offer of a free restaurant meal, swim at the pool etc might be appreciated and she might actually like your company, at the end of the day it is all about how many blue notes she is going to take home that night. Given that ST (1-2 hours) with one pop is around 2000 - 2500 PHP, nine hours with two pops might be 3000 - 4000 PHP + 500 tip. What you pay for food and drinks is not of concern to the girl and isn't included in her own calculations. If you are keeping her for nine hours, then she really can't get back to LA Cafe for customer no. 2 so you need to make it worth her while. So we are talking about USD 100 for all day with a girl and two shots on goal. Not a bad deal if she agrees. Some of the more experienced Manila long-timers might think these rates are too high, but you don't want to come across as being too cheap.
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Help for a noob with a last minute trip to the PI?
Hi,
Total noob here. Just found out that I can fit 8-9 nights in the Philippines in after a business trip to China. However I leave for China in 2 days and will get to Manila June 27. I know there is plenty of Philippines info here and the standard answer is RTFF. I have been a casual reader for a while, but reading to enjoy the trip reports is different than reading with the focus of immediate trip planning. I have tried to do what I can, but given the sudden timing of my trip, I would greatly appreciate the advice from PI vets. As this is at the end of a business trip, I have minimal travel costs and I really am not at all concerned about being on a budget. I am a short, fit, 40 year old American, looking for good GFE experiences with cute, slim girls in the 20-30 year old range. Don't have to be total stunners, but want to avoid the Jolibee bellies I have heard about.
My questions:
1. I can get to Manila airport at 1:45 am on June 27 - at that hour how long will it take to get to a hotel, it is too late to bother looking for a girl? Can I get a general taxi quickly at that hour or should I arrange for pickup through my hotel?
2. I plan on being in Manila for 2-3 days and then the rest in Angeles 5-6 days. I can fly out of Clark so it makes sense to end in Angeles. Is this a good time mix? Should I also try to check out Subic for a night or two?
3. For Manila I see plenty of debate between staying by La Café area in Malate or in Makati near Burgos St or Havana Café. As I am focused on quality and less concerned about price (for both girls and hotels), should I go with Makati? I read Sir Lancelot's excellent trip reports on Manila but its clear he had to do a fair amount of digging, and spend a fair amount of time at La Café, to find the gems he did. I am not quite so into the "hunt" to find a diamond in the rough. Is the crowd at Havana café significantly better than La Café?
4. I understand this is "low" season, any insight on weather? I read an El Nino may suppress rains until later in July. Am I going to just hit occasional showers or serious monsoons?
5. If this really is "low" season, can I be last minute on my hotel bookings so I can stay flexible or should I worry about sold out hotels and make commitments now?
6. ABC and the Lewis Grand seem like the high end properties in Angeles. Just wondering if the people staying at these places are from Asia or if there are more English speakers around? I assume almost all the guests are there for the hobby, is that correct? In my limited travels, I have always enjoyed chatting with guys in the hobby (this isn't really a hobby I can usually discuss with others), so I want to make sure I don't wind up in a place only non-English speakers go. For the hotels in Makati and Malete I assume these are more for general travelers, not punters, is that true? I see there is a Peninsula Hotel and Shangri-La in Makati, these seems to be walking distance to Havana Café, are they also walkable to the P Burgos area. Am I better off at the New World Makati?
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
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For my cash do you feel the room safe is OK to use or should I only use the safe deposit desk at the front desk?[/QUOTE]It's more convenient to use the room safe. I've used the hotel safe (which is a typical dual key system, a bit old but still functional) on 2 occasions: (1) Was going to a province location and returning and didn't want to carry that much cash with me. They let me use the safe for my between stays with the Hotel (2) Had brought over $10,000 USD to go gambling.
My question would be. Are you a heavy drinker? And have the possibility of doing stupid things while drunk and / or blackout? If so, leave a few things at the hotel safe in case this happens ie Passport, extra credit cards and ATM cards. The hotel you are staying is semi-relaxed on their check-in policy for overnight stays. Some hotels are very vigilant in signing in guests, New World MB rarely does that. The positive is it's sometimes annoying if you are going back to the room with more than 1 girl, but on the negative. It's a little less safe for you as an individual.
[QUOTE=NWGuy;1735418]
And for the average looking (lets say she is at best a "6") to barely above average (lets says she is a "7" and that is pushing it) and her age is definitely over 30 women at LA Cafe or Amazonia what would be a fair rate (including a tip) for her for say a whole afternoon and into the evening? Like, we go to dinner somewhere decent sit down style (Not a fast food place) and eat and hang out and talk, then we have some drinks afterwards, and then walk back to the room to play. But she does not spend the night after we play she leaves. I already paid for both of our meals and drinks, so what would be a good rate and tip for that situation? It would be about nine hours lets say? from like 2 in the afternoon till 11 pm or so.[/QUOTE]It's going to be very rare that you find someone in LA Cafe that you can converse a "normal" conversation. The girls are there to make money and they aren't going to give better or worse service with a sit down meal. But if you search long enough, maybe you will. In my past experiences, I have taken them back to the hotel and started round 1. Then afterwards, you can order room service which is a little pricey. But the it's a pretty big menu. Then you can take a nap and / or start round 2. Get used to the words, "up to you". Ie do you want to go to xx restaurant? Answer, "up to you". Do you want room service? Answer"up to you". Some girls may be a little more aggressive and say they are hungry, but none will demand a sit down restaurant.
(Everyone's rating system is different. Most of the 6-7's that I have been with from LA Cafe are in the mid-20's, cute with decent bodies. A good portion of them were single moms with "supposed" time constraints with a specific exit time. You will need to casually make sure of your time arrangement expectations.).
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And also the exact same question if she was like say 23 years old (max) and gorgeous and she knew it too.[/QUOTE]Good luck with that. There are cute girls there, but not sure if I've ever seen a head turner.
FYI, your time is off as well. Your selection is going to be severely limited if you go at 2 PM. I'd say, anywhere from 8-11 PM is when it starts getting busy ie more girls in the bar.
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LA Cafe
Random, You make some very good points there. For the newbie:
If you have negotiated a LT deal, it's important to take her to the room straight away and get on with Round 1 immediately. Don't buy her food, drink or take her to the pool until you have shot one load. Many of us have learnt the hard way. If the situation doesn't go according to plan, then at least you have fucked her once. Also, don't pay the money upfront. If she insists and won't open her legs in the room until she gets paid, then hold onto half until the end.
If you have paid the money upfront, she has all the power and she will give you every excuse as to why the date should end early. My baby is sick, kids school enrolment is today, interview for a house maid job blah blah blah. Many of the girls at LA Cafe are not sweet innocent things straight out of the provinces. They are semi-hardened girls who know how to survive in Manila and can read you very well.
Best to save your notion of romance and fine dining to prospects you meet on DIA. As Random has said, your girl will leave all the decision making up to you and would be perfectly happy with a takeout from Jollie Bee.
The deal from LA Cafe is purely a business transaction.
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If you can afford to stay at the New World MB (the old Hyatt), then don't waste too much time at LA Cafe. Most of the LA girls are sub par - 5 stars or less although you may find a rare diamond if you are lucky. Go instead to the EDSA Entertainment Complex. COTTON CLUB, FIREHOUSE, and PITSTOP are the bars you want to check out. The quality is much higher than LA Cafe. EDSA is only a 5 to 10 minute taxi ride away. Go early around 8 pm. If you don't find what you are looking for, then go to LA Cafe afterwards.
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Yes, I agree with you regarding the quality of the ladies in LA Cafe. It is very much waste of time. It used to be very good. I remember picking up some FL who were waiting for her visa to USA and her friend. They were 9/10. Last time I was there, place was sorry.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1735658]If you can afford to stay at the New World MB (the old Hyatt), then don't waste too much time at LA Cafe. Most of the LA girls are sub par - 5 stars or less although you may find a rare diamond if you are lucky. Go instead to the EDSA Entertainment Complex. COTTON CLUB, FIREHOUSE, and PITSTOP are the bars you want to check out. The quality is much higher than LA Cafe. EDSA is only a 5 to 10 minute taxi ride away. Go early around 8 pm. If you don't find what you are looking for, then go to LA Cafe afterwards.[/QUOTE]
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I think someone has already given you a good estimate for the manila area. I just want to share an interesting note from someone who was on ISG many years ago. He was what some might call a heavy tipper. His rationale was that he was quite old, overweight, and not much too look at. So he tipped well. I was impressed that he factored that in. X.
[QUOTE=NWGuy;1735418]Thanks so much everybody for the replies and help. It is really appreciated everyone.
A couple more things: For my cash do you feel the room safe is OK to use or should I only use the safe deposit desk at the front desk?
And for the average looking (lets say she is at best a "6") to barely above average (lets says she is a "7" and that is pushing it) and her age is definitely over 30 women at LA Cafe or Amazonia what would be a fair rate (including a tip) for her for say a whole afternoon and into the evening? Like, we go to dinner somewhere decent sit down style (Not a fast food place) and eat and hang out and talk, then we have some drinks afterwards, and then walk back to the room to play. But she does not spend the night after we play she leaves.
I already paid for both of our meals and drinks, so what would be a good rate and tip for that situation? It would be about nine hours lets say? from like 2 in the afternoon till 11 pm or so.
And also the exact same question if she was like say 23 years old (max) and gorgeous and she knew it too.[/QUOTE]
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LA CAFE head turner. R99 brought back a memory!
The last time I saw a "head turner" in LA Cafe was quite a few years ago. She had above average intelligence, thick Visayan lips, some nice curves, big breasts, outstanding GFE, and was a helluva dancer. I know all this because she had spent a few days with me on an earlier trip. I first met her at PitStop, EDSA Complex. Unfortunately, she was in LA Cafe that night with a "date". She did find time to sneak away and say hello, bless her heart. Every other gal in the place looked plain after seeing her, so I left soon after that.
I'm not sure why a guy would pull a stunner out of EDSA and then take her to LA Cafe. I guess he had his reasons. Maybe for the 2nd floor band and dancing.
The next time I visited the Philippines she came in from the province to meet me in Cebu City. She was out of the bar. Wonder why? We had a nice evening of drinking and dancing at the old Sunflower Club that was located near the Waterfront Hotel. Did I mention that she was a good dancer? Did I mention she was a head turner? I was so happy to be with her again. LOL.
I noticed she wasn't nearly as sweet as the first time I was with her. I assumed it was too much time in the bar.
She spent the night but turned me down in the morning when I invited her to Bohol. She said her mother would be angry if she stayed away too long. After all, "I have a fiancé "!
Huh? Ah, one of those surreal moments. . . Early morning, in a hotel bed, holding a beautiful woman, sweat and other bodily fluids abundant. . . And she tells me she's engaged and probably shouldn't go to the beach with me, thanks anyway.
I rode the taxi with her to the North bus terminal. I asked her if she had met her man at Pitstop. "No, he doesn't know I worked in a bar."
Sorry for the long post. X.
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Good luck with that. There are cute girls there, but not sure if I've ever seen a head turner.
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I'm not sure why a guy would pull a stunner out of EDSA and then take her to LA Cafe. I guess he had his reasons.[/QUOTE]X, I also bfined a girl from EDSA and took her to LA cafe reason being my buddy didn't find anyone in EDSA and wanted to go to LA Cafe instead of other places. It is quite possibly for it to happen and I am sure this gentleman would have his own reason like mine for doing the same.
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[QUOTE=Hutzesq;1735540]1. I can get to Manila airport at 1:45 am on June 27 - at that hour how long will it take to get to a hotel, it is too late to bother looking for a girl? Can I get a general taxi quickly at that hour or should I arrange for pickup through my hotel?[/QUOTE]Previously it's taken me 2 hours from plane to outside the terminal at Manila, and on another day it's taken me about 20 minutes. It all depends. Airport to LA Cafe probably not much more than 30 minutes at that time of night.
As for girls, maybe there would be some returning for a second round, or there might be less pretty ones left over.
[QUOTE=Hutzesq;1735540]2. I plan on being in Manila for 2-3 days and then the rest in Angeles 5-6 days. I can fly out of Clark so it makes sense to end in Angeles. Is this a good time mix? Should I also try to check out Subic for a night or two?[/QUOTE]Sounds like a good plan! Subic more depends on your interests (diving, of the sea variety).
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Thoughts on one woman versus multiple
Thanks so much for all the help guys, it has been extremely helpful. I have learned much as I read the replies and as well have read the forums a bunch.
New question: How would I go about finding a woman while there for role play scenarios? For example she is the sexy female manager or secretary, she would have to be dressed like that when she showed up to meet me, or maybe the doctor or nurse, policewoman, or something like that. I would not expect the women there to have many costumes or maybe the right wardrobe for those things. Is that correct? Would this be an ad I placed on Backpage or Craigslist, or another site beforehand explicitly stating what I was looking for and the requirements, the time to meet me and where, the pay would be clearly detailed etc. Or no this is not a good idea? Thank you for your thoughts.
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The making of appointments with same woman as before
So I have read that some of you just contact the same woman from earlier in the week and meet her again later in the week. I am thinking that seems like something I would do (assuming the first visit went well). What are the reasons not to do this? Or the criticism of this practice? So if everything went well is there a reason that I shouldn't ask her if she would like to meet me again at location X at X o clock? Or even for a third time even? Seems like it would be easy on the planning and I wouldn't have to spend so much time on the hunt and doing interviews at possibly loud bars if I already had an appointment with someone who I met earlier. As long as we both understood clearly it was just business and we are not becoming any kind of relationship and she got paid for her time is there any problem with this? Thanks in advance for all replies guys.
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[QUOTE=Hutzesq;1735540]
1. I can get to Manila airport at 1:45 am on June 27 - at that hour how long will it take to get to a hotel, it is too late to bother looking for a girl? Can I get a general taxi quickly at that hour or should I arrange for pickup through my hotel?[/QUOTE]Hmm, I've arrived the latest at 11 pm and it's been pretty crowded. I'm assuming you'll fly into T3. You'll take a long walk to customs and then to baggage. That will add at least 15-30 minutes. You'll probably get to your hotel around 2:45 am. LA Cafe is 24 hours, but the pickings get slim at the early morning hours.
(I think you'll be ok with the metered taxi, but *shrug* - it's the Philippines, you never know.).
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2. I plan on being in Manila for 2-3 days and then the rest in Angeles 5-6 days. I can fly out of Clark so it makes sense to end in Angeles. Is this a good time mix? Should I also try to check out Subic for a night or two?[/QUOTE]Personally, I would pick 1 spot, but I'm probably in the minority opinion. Seems like you'll be very rushed if you split the trip in mini-trips, but some people adjust faster than others.
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3. For Manila I see plenty of debate between staying by La Caf area in Malate or in Makati near Burgos St or Havana Caf. As I am focused on quality and less concerned about price (for both girls and hotels), should I go with Makati? I read Sir Lancelot's excellent trip reports on Manila but its clear he had to do a fair amount of digging, and spend a fair amount of time at La Caf, to find the gems he did. I am not quite so into the "hunt" to find a diamond in the rough. Is the crowd at Havana caf significantly better than La Caf?[/QUOTE]Makati will give you a little more sense of normalcy as it's in a nicer neighborhood.
I think LA Cafe is a little more straight-forward and easier to scope out the women. The setup at Havana Cafe is not conducive to table hop and girls don't move around the area as much. It's dark and I think Havana is a little more awkward. They dress a little better at Havana, but not sure the quality is better. (note: I've never taken a girl back to my hotel from Havana.).
Hmm, I think Havana is closed 1 day during the week, not sure if it's Sun or Mon.
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4. I understand this is "low" season, any insight on weather? I read an El Nino may suppress rains until later in July. Am I going to just hit occasional showers or serious monsoons?[/QUOTE]LOL, are you going to cancel your trip if it's too rainy?
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5. If this really is "low" season, can I be last minute on my hotel bookings so I can stay flexible or should I worry about sold out hotels and make commitments now?[/QUOTE]Jump on Agoda or another site and just browse through and see if they have vacancies.
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6. ABC and the Lewis Grand seem like the high end properties in Angeles. Just wondering if the people staying at these places are from Asia or if there are more English speakers around? I assume almost all the guests are there for the hobby, is that correct? In my limited travels, I have always enjoyed chatting with guys in the hobby (this isn't really a hobby I can usually discuss with others), so I want to make sure I don't wind up in a place only non-English speakers go. For the hotels in Makati and Malete I assume these are more for general travelers, not punters, is that true? I see there is a Peninsula Hotel and Shangri-La in Makati, these seems to be walking distance to Havana Caf, are they also walkable to the P Burgos area. Am I better off at the New World Makati?
[/QUOTE](never been to Angeles).
All Manila hotels are used to having overnight guests. It's no issue.
All the hotels are in general walking distance of Havana Cafe, but New World is the closest. Ascott, Dusit, Intercontinental and Shangri-la are only a few blocks further away. Peninsula is across Ayala Ave, so you'll have to go under the street to cross to get to Greenbelt 3, but it's a smidge closer to P Burgos. Personally, I would take a cab to Burgos regardless. It's only $1-2 taxi ride and you won't be sweaty if you get hot easily.
Ascott probably gives you the best value if you like a lot of space (although I don't think they have 24 hour room service).
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[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1735658]If you can afford to stay at the New World MB (the old Hyatt), then don't waste too much time at LA Cafe. Most of the LA girls are sub par - 5 stars or less although you may find a rare diamond if you are lucky. Go instead to the EDSA Entertainment Complex. COTTON CLUB, FIREHOUSE, and PITSTOP are the bars you want to check out. The quality is much higher than LA Cafe. EDSA is only a 5 to 10 minute taxi ride away. Go early around 8 pm. If you don't find what you are looking for, then go to LA Cafe afterwards.[/QUOTE]For both places, LA Cafe and EDSA, do not take the taxis that are sitting outside unless they turn on the meter (which they most likely won't). Flag a taxi as they go by and ensure they turn on the meter, so you don't have to get into a money fight when he drops you off at your destination.
Just be polite about the meter as some drivers will insist on a flat fare. Don't get angry or start a fight and you may need to get out and flag another taxi. Typically, they'll try to at least double a meter fare when quoting a flat fare.
Some drivers will refuse to take you to certain places. It's illegal, but it still goes on.
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[QUOTE=Random99;1735838]For both places, LA Cafe and EDSA, do not take the taxis that are sitting outside unless they turn on the meter (which they most likely won't). Flag a taxi as they go by and ensure they turn on the meter, so you don't have to get into a money fight when he drops you off at your destination.
Just be polite about the meter as some drivers will insist on a flat fare. Don't get angry or start a fight and you may need to get out and flag another taxi. Typically, they'll try to at least double a meter fare when quoting a flat fare.
[/QUOTE]Dealing with some Manila taxi drivers can be vexing at times, but don't let them get to you. Going to EDSA Entertainment from say the Diamond Hotel (across from the former Hyatt) is no problem. My policy is: no meter no fare and I find that a majority of taxi drivers hit the meter without my asking anyway. But going back from EDSA to the Diamond or some other nearby hotel with a girl is more problematic because some taxi drivers think they have an advantage and they do... kind of. But I know what the meter will run so, I am willing to pay a little more when I am with a girl just to be done with it and not to haggle in front of the girl. For a meter ride of 60 to 65 p for example, some taxi drivers will ask for 100p or more. I counter offer with 80 and they usually take it. If not I start looking for another ride, but keep in mind, we are only talking about 20 p to 40 p over the meter for a ride back to the hotel. I would normally give a driver a 20 p tip anyway. But, you are right, never show anger towards them. That's crazy. Just walk away if they are asking too much.
There is a much larger scam going on at the airport. I was quoted a crazy rate of 1500p to Makati the last time I landed at Terminal 2 on Philippine Airlines. I just started walking away and the rate magically fell to the 650p/800p range. That is still approximately 400 to 550p over the meter rate, but I never feel like waiting in line 30 to 40 minutes for a metered taxi. Time is money and I am anxious to get the fuck out of the airport. I may give Uber a call next time I land at the Manila airport. Some BM's have reported favorably about them.
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Lewis Grand
[QUOTE=Hutzesq;1735540]Hi,
6. ABC and the Lewis Grand seem like the high end properties in Angeles. Just wondering if the people staying at these places are from Asia or if there are more English speakers around? I assume almost all the guests are there for the hobby, is that correct?
Thanks in advance for any assistance.[/QUOTE]I've stayed at the Lewis Grand many times in AC. It's a well run hotel with a white expatriate GM in charge. Many of the clientele are English speaking foreigners on business, probably at the Clark Freeport Zone. They chose to stay in AC proper so that they can partake of horizontal refreshments after work. The place is expensive for budget mongerers who have to make their pension check last as long as possible, so they will stay elsewhere. I've never seen a Korean, Chinese or Japanese guest at the Lewis. The only time I have seen Asian guests at the Lewis where when a bunch of senior Filipino military and police officers were having a conference there. No doubt deciding how they can screw more out of the bar owners. The place is also popular for grand Filipino weddings on the weeekend.
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Keep it Simple
[QUOTE=NWGuy;1735803]Thanks so much for all the help guys, it has been extremely helpful. I have learned much as I read the replies and as well have read the forums a bunch.
New question: How would I go about finding a woman while there for role play scenarios? For example she is the sexy female manager or secretary, she would have to be dressed like that when she showed up to meet me, or maybe the doctor or nurse, policewoman, or something like that. [/QUOTE]For any first time visitors to Manila looking for P4 P action, it's best to keep everything really simple. Your senses will be working overtime. You need to learn the culture very quickly and there is a lot to absorb. Manila is a huge city with too much going on. The girls will always have the upper hand as it is their city. So don't complicate things unnecessarily first time round looking for particular fetishes, wining and dining at expensive restaurants or booking too many dates in one-day. Save all of that for subsequent trips when you have learnt how things work.
In the 9-days, if you can get 6-7 good sessions from a combination of LA Cafe, EDSA, Burgos Street and Robinson Mall (if you're really desperate) then you have done really well for a first visit.
As others have pointed out, EDSA has some high quality ass. We are talking seriously beautiful girls. I like LA Cafe as it's fun to hang out there and amusing to watch what is going on. Sure, the girls are mediocre, but the crazy atmosphere makes it worth it.
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LA Cafe
[QUOTE=Hutzesq;1735540]1. I can get to Manila airport at 1:45 am on June 27 - at that hour how long will it take to get to a hotel, it is too late to bother looking for a girl? [/QUOTE]You should go through the airport quickly at that time and the taxi queue won't be long. Get one of the metered taxis. I stayed recently at Citystate in Ermita, near LA Cafe, and the fare was 202 pesos from the airport. Often the taxi driver will pretend he doesn't have change to try and extract a big tip. You'll probably check in to your hotel about 2. 15 am which is not too late to find a girl as LA Cafe is open 24 hours. If you get there as soon as possible there will be plenty of girls but if you leave it too late the standards will drop.
I know you said you weren't so keen on the 'hunt' but LA Cafe is an experience. I recommend getting there for 8 pm on one of your other nights, have a few drinks downstairs and go upstairs at about 11 pm. Sit in the area to the left at the top of the stairs, where the band plays and you'll have lots of girls smiling over in your direction. Just smile back if you see one you like and wave her over. The best place to sit is on one of the tables near the top of the stairs. You don't need good game, just look approachable. Bear in mind the girls are evaluating you as much as you are evaluating them, so dress smartly but the most important thing to wear is a smile.
There are lots of nice girls to be found in LA Cafe. Admittedly downstairs can be like a bear-pit sometimes and there are lots of average girls, but if you are patient you'll find some great girls. Below I've posted a few pics of girls I've taken from LA Cafe.
A few tips. When you get chatting to a girl you like, she will almost certainly ask 'you been here before?' which is her way of working out whether you are a newbie which may affect her price. Never let on it's your first time. Tell her "third time, my last time this bar was called Manila Bay Cafe" or something like that. That way she'll know that you know your stuff.
LA Cafe doesn't operate a lady-drink system like gogo bars where the girls get a commission each time they're bought a drink. Management insist girls have a drink if they want to stay upstairs or before they leave with a customer, so the girls often get themselves the cheapest drink, those bottles of water with the orange cap. The girls get no money if you buy them a drink and on my last trip I offered three girls a drink and oddly they all refused. You'll find therefore that there is quite a relaxed atmosphere in LA Cafe and you won't be hassled all the time.
The other thing I'd recommend is never ask a freelancer "how much?" Instead do your research and when the time comes, say to her something like "would you like to come back to my hotel with me and stay tonight?" When she nods or says yes, tell her your offer. I picked up a very pretty 26 year old for 2500 pesos all night, pictured in the black and white dress below. I'd say she was one of the best looking girls in the bar that night but I would say, wouldn't I? My friends agreed though. 3000/4000 is too high to pay in my experience. Some of the girls in the Korean section upstairs might hold out for a price like this but the majority of the pretty girls will go for 2500 long-time. Most girls, especially those downstairs, will go cheaper than this.
LA Cafe is open 24 hours but sometimes it is sleepy during the afternoon. Gems can be found though. I picked up two pretty girls who told me they were sisters (normally I take stuff like that with a pinch of salt but they had exactly the same smile). I paid 2000 to each of them for a proper threesome (ie not just fucking one after the other, like some threesomes you get). 4000 is steep for short-time but for two girls of their quality (and the memories they gave me!) it was a fair price.
Do not pay upfront. You pay in the morning when the girl is getting ready to leave. Engine driver says "it's important to take her to the room straight away and get on with Round 1 immediately" but I disagree. I think it's fun to take her to G-Point for a drink or two perhaps, or maybe something to eat. I don't see what the rush is and if you pay her in the morning, she's hardly likely to do a runner. In my experience, the more effort you make with a girl, the more effort she will make with you. Not everyone agrees with this.
Tip generously if a girl gives you a good time. Almost all of these girls are doing the job to help support their family and they are not the hardcore pro's that some would have you believe. They're ordinary girls looking to make an honest buck. Another thing I've noticed is that the girls always tip the beggars outside LA Cafe with loose change. They are generous people so if you have a good time with them, give them a tip as well.
Have a great time and feel free to private message me again if you have any more questions. Also make sure you post a report on here. I look forward to see how your trip goes.
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[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1735861]Dealing with some Manila taxi drivers can be vexing at times, but don't let them get to you. Going to EDSA Entertainment from say the Diamond Hotel (across from the former Hyatt) is no problem. My policy is: no meter no fare and I find that a majority of taxi drivers hit the meter without my asking anyway. But going back from EDSA to the Diamond or some other nearby hotel with a girl is more problematic because some taxi drivers think they have an advantage and they do... kind of. But I know what the meter will run so, I am willing to pay a little more when I am with a girl just to be done with it and not to haggle in front of the girl. For a meter ride of 60 to 65 p for example, some taxi drivers will ask for 100p or more. I counter offer with 80 and they usually take it. If not I start looking for another ride, but keep in mind, we are only talking about 20 p to 40 p over the meter for a ride back to the hotel. I would normally give a driver a 20 p tip anyway. But, you are right, never show anger towards them. That's crazy. Just walk away if they are asking too much.
There is a much larger scam going on at the airport. I was quoted a crazy rate of 1500p to Makati the last time I landed at Terminal 2 on Philippine Airlines. I just started walking away and the rate magically fell to the 650p/800p range. That is still approximately 400 to 550p over the meter rate, but I never feel like waiting in line 30 to 40 minutes for a metered taxi. Time is money and I am anxious to get the fuck out of the airport. I may give Uber a call next time I land at the Manila airport. Some BM's have reported favorably about them.[/QUOTE]That's funny shit about the 1500 p quote. I arrived in MNL once, directly from a meeting with clients in Japan. Didn't have time to change out of my suite before boarding the flight to MNL. As soon as I walked outside the airport, those guys were quoting 6000 p for a ride to Makati. Walked away, and the price dropped down to 1500 p. Of course I chose option "see" and waited 10 minutes for the metered cab.
The only way I could make sense of that quote was either A) I appeared rich (which I'm not) or B) I looked like I just stepped off the banana boat (quite possible).
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[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1735658]If you can afford to stay at the New World MB (the old Hyatt), then don't waste too much time at LA Cafe. Most of the LA girls are sub par - 5 stars or less although you may find a rare diamond if you are lucky. Go instead to the EDSA Entertainment Complex. COTTON CLUB, FIREHOUSE, and PITSTOP are the bars you want to check out. The quality is much higher than LA Cafe. EDSA is only a 5 to 10 minute taxi ride away. Go early around 8 pm. If you don't find what you are looking for, then go to LA Cafe afterwards.[/QUOTE]I agree. I would use LA Cafe during the day. I used to spend three or four hours in LA Cafe to kill time and 99% of the time, I found a diamond. I always tell my friend to meet in Amazonia and walk down to meet her. This helped when a very cute LA Cafe waitress asked me why I never take anyone and I told her that I was just killing time waiting on a business meeting and she asked me to meet her at 7-11 an hour later, when she finished her shift. Haha.
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Noob saying thanks
Everyone. Thanks for the help on the questions I posted yesterday.
Sir Lancelot, you really seem to have my best interests at heart and are doing what you can to save me money. I think you should manage my investment portfolio.
From the advice, I may just fly in on Saturday morning rather than trying to get in super late night. While there may be girls available at 3 am, not so sure they will be what I am looking for or that I will be awake enough to handle a girl at that hour.
Sorry to be asking about the weather, but in my Asian travels, what you call rain, traffic and a city block are often very different in Asia than the States. Yes, if it was going to be constant monsoon rains for a week, I would probably pick another destination like Bangkok / Pattaya. However it seems Manila / Angeles will probably be fine and just a bit wet. Seems like there is no point to try Subic on this trip.
Random99 - I looked up Café Havana, it appears to be open every day. But I appreciate you thoughts on the scene there. Here is the website for it.
[URL]http://ljcrestaurants.com.ph/cafe-havana/[/URL]
Assuming I decide to stay in Makati but want to cab over to LA Café around 8-9 pm on Saturday or Sunday, how long would that take? Is weekend traffic better in Manila?
Thanks again for your help.
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A true Sir Lancelot.
It is nice to listen to someone who can pass along quality info in a way that does not disrespect the girls involved. I am moving to the Philippines next month and am going to go back and read all the posts of Sir Lancelot.
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[QUOTE=NWGuy;1735832]So I have read that some of you just contact the same woman from earlier in the week and meet her again later in the week. I am thinking that seems like something I would do (assuming the first visit went well). What are the reasons not to do this? Or the criticism of this practice? So if everything went well is there a reason that I shouldn't ask her if she would like to meet me again at location X at X o clock? Or even for a third time even? Seems like it would be easy on the planning and I wouldn't have to spend so much time on the hunt and doing interviews at possibly loud bars if I already had an appointment with someone who I met earlier. As long as we both understood clearly it was just business and we are not becoming any kind of relationship and she got paid for her time is there any problem with this? Thanks in advance for all replies guys.[/QUOTE]Dude. I am sure this is not your first time for pay-for-play. You are starting to ask questions that veer on a subjective question of dislikes and likes. There is no right or wrong answer, but all to each individual's taste.
It seems like you have already answered your own question as you don't mind having a good repeat experience rather than hunting for a "possible" better one. LOL, I feel like your next question will be: should I use a condom or not? And if so, how do I put a condom on?
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[QUOTE=Hutzesq;1735540]Hi,
Total noob here. Just found out that I can fit 8-9 nights in the Philippines in after a business trip to China. However I leave for China in 2 days and will get to Manila June 27. I know there is plenty of Philippines info here and the standard answer is RTFF. I have been a casual reader for a while, but reading to enjoy the trip reports is different than reading with the focus of immediate trip planning. I have tried to do what I can, but given the sudden timing of my trip, I would greatly appreciate the advice from PI vets. As this is at the end of a business trip, I have minimal travel costs and I really am not at all concerned about being on a budget. I am a short, fit, 40 year old American, looking for good GFE experiences with cute, slim girls in the 20-30 year old range. Don't have to be total stunners, but want to avoid the Jolibee bellies I have heard about.
My questions:
1. I can get to Manila airport at 1:45 am on June 27 - at that hour how long will it take to get to a hotel, it is too late to bother looking for a girl? Can I get a general taxi quickly at that hour or should I arrange for pickup through my hotel?
[/QUOTE]Since you'll be arriving late, traffic won't be a problem. Take the Yellow Taxi (metered) from the airport to the Makati Shangri La (since money doesn't seem to be an issue), check in, and then, take a taxi (have the doorman get you a taxi driver who turns on the meter) directly to P. Burgos (where the clubs are open to 4 am) and Plan be. Talk to either Mommie Vannesa or Mommie Red telling either what you want, and they should be able to hook you up. If it doesn't work out there, go over to Plan be's sister bar, Kojax, and ask for Mommie Emmie. Also, Mommie Tracy at Bottoms (across from Plan B) is another option. All those bars are top notch on P. Burgos especially late.
Here's the kind of girl you'll find at Plan be.
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EDSA Bars
Here is a report from Stickman's BKK site. The writer has explained it well, but the prices are obviously out of date.
[URL]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Reader2007/reader3480.htm[/URL]
Other things that Newbies need to know about Manila is that it is hot, humid, traffic is insane and noisy. If you are hanging out in Ermita / Malate, there are large holes in the sidewalk, beggars everywhere and you risk being run over by a Jeepney if not careful. If you are from the UK or Australia, look the other way when crossing the street! If you try to do too many things in one day you will fall over in a big heap. So just pace yourself.
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[QUOTE=NWGuy;1735803]
New question: How would I go about finding a woman while there for role play scenarios? For example she is the sexy female manager or secretary, she would have to be dressed like that when she showed up to meet me, or maybe the doctor or nurse, policewoman, or something like that. I would not expect the women there to have many costumes or maybe the right wardrobe for those things. Is that correct? Would this be an ad I placed on Backpage or Craigslist, or another site beforehand explicitly stating what I was looking for and the requirements, the time to meet me and where, the pay would be clearly detailed etc. Or no this is not a good idea? Thank you for your thoughts.[/QUOTE]Yes, pack an additional suitcase filled with costumes. If you're into 'furry' cosplay, i.e. animal costumes, you may need very large luggage or several bags. Probably you'll need to type out scripts for her to read to enhance the experience; you may be able to find role-play scripts online. I can't figure out what scripts a gal in a bunny costume working as a secretary at the police station would need, though. Come to think of it, what does the fox say? Sure, post an ad on CL. Or another site that attracts the community of Filipina role players. I'm sure there are many dozens of them, sites that is. It won't hurt. Unless that's what you're looking for too. Up to you.
[QUOTE=NWGuy;1735832]So I have read that some of you just contact the same woman from earlier in the week and meet her again later in the week. I am thinking that seems like something I would do (assuming the first visit went well). What are the reasons not to do this? Or the criticism of this practice? So if everything went well is there a reason that I shouldn't ask her if she would like to meet me again at location X at X o clock? Or even for a third time even? Seems like it would be easy on the planning and I wouldn't have to spend so much time on the hunt and doing interviews at possibly loud bars if I already had an appointment with someone who I met earlier. As long as we both understood clearly it was just business and we are not becoming any kind of relationship and she got paid for her time is there any problem with this? Thanks in advance for all replies guys.[/QUOTE]Really?
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Hotel Limo Service
[QUOTE=Hutzesq;1735540]Hi,
1. I can get to Manila airport at 1:45 am on June 27 - at that hour how long will it take to get to a hotel, it is too late to bother looking for a girl? Can I get a general taxi quickly at that hour or should I arrange for pickup through my hotel?
2. I plan on being in Manila for 2-3 days and then the rest in Angeles 5-6 days. I can fly out of Clark so it makes sense to end in Angeles. Is this a good time mix? Should I also try to check out Subic for a night or two?
[/QUOTE]Since you will be staying at the Shangri-La Makati, it will be better if you arrange for them to pick you up in a hotel car (since cost is of no object). No need to worry about taxi queues or rip offs. Since you want to get to the bars before 4. 00 am closing, ask the driver to take you straight to P. Burgos Street from NAIA. After he has dropped you off at the bars, he can then take your bags straight to the hotel. After you have picked out your honey, you and your girl can get a taxi to the hotel before checking in and then fucking her brains out.
No need to go to Subic unless you are into technical diving and are seeking a wreck divers certification. Every type of amusement you need is in AC. Subic might only be 80 km away from AC, but you will waste half-a-day getting there and the pussy is not any better than at AC.
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[QUOTE=Random99;1735989]Dude. I am sure this is not your first time for pay-for-play. You are starting to ask questions that veer on a subjective question of dislikes and likes. There is no right or wrong answer, but all to each individual's taste.
It seems like you have already answered your own question as you don't mind having a good repeat experience rather than hunting for a "possible" better one. LOL, I feel like your next question will be: should I use a condom or not? And if so, how do I put a condom on?[/QUOTE]I agree totaly. I am sorry as I started this due to some of his first questions felt legit and could be hard to find any answers on through here (I specified this in my reply to him) Now the guy in detail goes on and on and he will not arrive here until September, haha. But he seems to have got himself a willing crowd helping him out. I only hope they can take it through pm bcs this continuing until September will be boring stuffs.
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[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1736033]Other things that Newbies need to know about Manila is that it is hot, humid, traffic is insane and noisy. If you are hanging out in Ermita / Malate, there are large holes in the sidewalk, beggars everywhere and you risk being run over by a Jeepney if not careful. If you are from the UK or Australia, look the other way when crossing the street! If you try to do too many things in one day you will fall over in a big heap. So just pace yourself.[/QUOTE]Yeah, watch quite literally all around you. Holes in the pavement / sidewalk, big lumps of metal / stone / cable sticking out of the pavement / sidewalk, cables string at low heights, cars without lights on at night, vehicles driving where vehicles shouldn't be driving (so even in a one-way street look both ways), pickpockets.
It's a lot to take in. But it's fun. I probably haven't seen the worst Manila has to offer but I've felt a lot less safe in parts of London. Oh, and don't get drunk, accept an offer to play a game of cards, walk with cash / phones obviously visible and / or unprotected, eat raw salad, or have drinks with ice chipped from blocks (most bars are ok). If I wear jeans I usually split money between both front pockets.
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[QUOTE=Hutzesq;1735961]
Random99 - I looked up Caf Havana, it appears to be open every day. But I appreciate you thoughts on the scene there. Here is the website for it.
[URL]http://ljcrestaurants.com.ph/cafe-havana/[/URL][/QUOTE]Apologies. I guess I confused it with the holidays around Easter. P Burgos was closed a few days during Easter as well and I trekked over to LA Cafe (as they are open 365 days a year).
[QUOTE=Hutzesq;1735961]
Assuming I decide to stay in Makati but want to cab over to LA Caf around 8-9 pm on Saturday or Sunday, how long would that take? Is weekend traffic better in Manila?
[/QUOTE]There is no direct route to LA Cafe from Makati and your taxi driver will take you on some side streets. From my memory, it normally takes about 20-30 minutes.
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[QUOTE=Random99;1735838]For both places, LA Cafe and EDSA, do not take the taxis that are sitting outside unless they turn on the meter (which they most likely won't). Flag a taxi as they go by and ensure they turn on the meter, so you don't have to get into a money fight when he drops you off at your destination.
Just be polite about the meter as some drivers will insist on a flat fare. Don't get angry or start a fight and you may need to get out and flag another taxi. Typically, they'll try to at least double a meter fare when quoting a flat fare.
Some drivers will refuse to take you to certain places. It's illegal, but it still goes on.[/QUOTE]A lot of drivers are ass holes. They see a white face and immediately try to take as much advantage as possible. I would get so mad before, but now I try not to. Filipinos can be very nice- but when it comes to taxis and such they pretty much try to get whatever they can.
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[QUOTE=OneIpole;1737329]They see a white face and immediately try to take as much advantage as possible.[/QUOTE]Welcome to Asia, this statement applies to virtually everyone you might come into contact with in Manila, from the taxi driver to the girl in the bar, you are judged by your appearance and are fair game thereafter. Your job is understand the difference between a harmless ruse that might cost you an extra 50 pesos from the outright ripoff that might cost an extra 500.
For guys with no familial ties in Phil (or Thailand) you are, at best, a walking wallet.
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[QUOTE=CallSignPapa;1737421]Welcome to Asia, this statement applies to virtually everyone you might come into contact with in Manila, from the taxi driver to the girl in the bar, you are judged by your appearance and are fair game thereafter. Your job is understand the difference between a harmless ruse that might cost you an extra 50 pesos from the outright ripoff that might cost an extra 500.
For guys with no familial ties in Phil (or Thailand) you are, at best, a walking wallet.[/QUOTE]Let's not limit this to Asia either! Happens a lot in South America and North Africa from experience, and I imagine the rest of Africa, Middle East etc too. I've even seen Hispanics being charged more in the US than Americans, even though they don't tend to be more well off. Multi-tiered service basically.
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[QUOTE=OneIpole;1737329]A lot of drivers are ass holes. They see a white face and immediately try to take as much advantage as possible. I would get so mad before, but now I try not to. Filipinos can be very nice- but when it comes to taxis and such they pretty much try to get whatever they can.[/QUOTE]There are good ones and bad ones. When I lived in the phils, only took a cab once per week as I could walk to work and also drove myself. So quite familiar with the roads from TT in the south to Subic in the north. If the driver knows you understand the area well. Even providing directions on which streets to use, you can almost never be ripped off. In five years there, I can only count 3-4 times total that I feel I was overcharged. So I think the issue is being overblown.
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[QUOTE=OneIpole;1737329]A lot of drivers are ass holes. They see a white face and immediately try to take as much advantage as possible. I would get so mad before, but now I try not to. Filipinos can be very nice- but when it comes to taxis and such they pretty much try to get whatever they can.[/QUOTE]One wanted to charge me 3 x the meter rate to get to my place yesterday. Three others didn't know my destination even though it's about. 75 km from where I was trying to get a ride from. Two others just refused to bring me here.
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[QUOTE=Kaywhy;1737572]
In five years there, I can only count 3-4 times total that I feel I was overcharged. So I think the issue is being overblown.[/QUOTE]The taxi issue crops up on this board around every 6 months.
As always, there are posts from those for whom every taxi driver is a crook.
For others, like me, who has lived continuously in the Philippines for 18 years, and guys like KY who can count on one hand the number of times there has been any irregularity with a taxi driver. It just never happens that drivers either refuse to take me or don't want to use the meter.
I cannot speak for KY, but for me, I can only assume it's because I usually get picked up at my condo in Ortigas or at a mall taxi stop or at Greenbelt in Makati. I am always well-dressed and don't look like a tourist on the streets of Ermita / Malate. I never use GrabTaxi or other Apps; they are always regular cabs on the street.
It's almost like some of us live in a parallel universe. Taxis in Manila give me no angst whatsoever.
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Shorts
[QUOTE=RedKilt;1737581]The taxi issue crops up on this board around every 6 months.
I am always well-dressed and don't look like a tourist on the streets of Ermita / Malate. [/QUOTE]Why grown foreign men continue to wear shorts after 6. 00 pm in Asia is beyond comprehension. Have you ever seen an Asian man out at night wearing shorts? If men wear jeans or long pants and closed shoes when they go mongering at night, it would certainly make an difference in the treatment they got from WGs, taxi drivers and other service people. Wearing shorts at night shows lack of respect. Keep the shorts and flip flops for daytime cruising.
I have seen fat, white mongerers wearing colored wife beaters, shorts and flip flops when they go bar hopping. It is not a good look and despite the size of your wallet, the girls are all laughing at you behind your back.
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[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1737587]Why grown foreign men continue to wear shorts after 6. 00 pm in Asia is beyond comprehension. Have you ever seen an Asian man out at night wearing shorts? If men wear jeans or long pants and closed shoes when they go mongering at night, it would certainly make an difference in the treatment they got from WGs, taxi drivers and other service people. Wearing shorts at night shows lack of respect. Keep the shorts and flip flops for daytime cruising.
I have seen fat, white mongerers wearing colored wife beaters, shorts and flip flops when they go bar hopping. It is not a good look and despite the size of your wallet, the girls are all laughing at you behind your back.[/QUOTE]ED,
They do as they can and on vacation. I see many pinoys similarly dressed at night (you clearly don't hang out where I do). And pinoys love to walk around with their t shirts / vests / singlets pulled up to expose their stomachs (as keeps them cool I was told).
If the girls laugh no worries as lots fish in the sea and those that wear don't care as they know they will hook one.
Many white fat mongers come here plus a few very fat white women in tow. Now that is a horrible sight in their shorts at any time of the day LOL.
Size of wallet is all that matters to some girls trust me on this. Some don't care as long as you have the cash and pay but are respectful. If you are a fat whitely etc who is a cheap charlie then I even I would say don't see the guy (discussed many times on the board).
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1737581]Taxis in Manila give me no angst whatsoever.[/QUOTE]Exactly. I've had a handful of attempted rips off, i.e. refusing to use the meter, and a couple of successful ones due to my own stupidity by being distracted. In one case I wasn't paying attention to see the meter had long been running and in another the driver failed to turn it on. Really no worries. Before going to an unknown-to-me location I check google maps to get an idea about the route. When I enter the taxi I make sure the guy turns on the meter. Taxi break downs have happened more frequently, though still quite rare. When that has happened the driver didn't even charge me. I only recall a few times when the driver has been rude or reckless. The reputation of Manila cabbies being dishonest is undeserved. I've experienced more hassles in other countries including "developed" ones.
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[QUOTE=RedKilt;1737581]
I cannot speak for KY, but for me, I can only assume it's because I usually get picked up at my condo in Ortigas or at a mall taxi stop or at Greenbelt in Makati. I am always well-dressed and don't look like a tourist on the streets of Ermita / Malate. I never use GrabTaxi or other Apps; they are always regular cabs on the street.
It's almost like some of us live in a parallel universe. Taxis in Manila give me no angst whatsoever.[/QUOTE]With respect RK, I think your experience is quite removed from the average first time, or relatively new visitor to Manila, who's first experience will be the airport which (if they've neglected to RTFF) is ripe for some serious overcharging by taxis. They'll then potentially have a similar experience when they go from hotels to destinations like Burgos, EDSA etc, which also clearly mark them as tourists irrespective of attire.
I haven't had too many issues with taxis (beyond the occasional "I add 50 pesos because it's rush hour" and consider the odd overcharge part of doing business in Manila, it's tourist tax and you'll find the same in Moscow, Kiev and Bangkok.
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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1737669]Exactly. I've had a handful of attempted rips off, i.e. refusing to use the meter, and a couple of successful ones due to my own stupidity by being distracted. SNIP I only recall a few times when the driver has been rude or reckless.[/QUOTE]Concur. The number of taxi problems in Manila has dropped (for me, an occasional warrior) by 95% in the last 3 or so years. Not sure why, but cabbies have gotten much better.
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1737669]The reputation of Manila cabbies being dishonest is undeserved. [/QUOTE]Disagree. The legacy of rotten cabbies doing the gringo-tango is deserved. On visits prior to a few years ago, on a typical trip I would hail 2+ dozen taxis. Usually 3-4 would try to take advantage somehow of the situation.
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I don't normally take taxis, as when I'm in Manila I prefer to use Uber for the daily treks between Makati and Ortigas and back. However, I do take the, Moccasionally for shorter trips around Makati and I can't remember the last time a taxi driver tried to cheat me. It still amazes me that guys who spend thousands of dollars to get here and play get frantic over the possibility of losing a dollar or two.
GE.
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I like wearing shorts.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1737587]Why grown foreign men continue to wear shorts after 6. 00 pm in Asia is beyond comprehension. Have you ever seen an Asian man out at night wearing shorts? If men wear jeans or long pants and closed shoes when they go mongering at night, it would certainly make an difference in the treatment they got from WGs, taxi drivers and other service people. Wearing shorts at night shows lack of respect. Keep the shorts and flip flops for daytime cruising.
I have seen fat, white mongerers wearing colored wife beaters, shorts and flip flops when they go bar hopping. It is not a good look and despite the size of your wallet, the girls are all laughing at you behind your back.[/QUOTE]LOL, I wear shorts all the time and pair it with a t-shirt and quazi-baseball hat.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1737685]I don't normally take taxis, as when I'm in Manila I prefer to use Uber for the daily treks between Makati and Ortigas and back. However, I do take the, Moccasionally for shorter trips around Makati and I can't remember the last time a taxi driver tried to cheat me. It still amazes me that guys who spend thousands of dollars to get here and play get frantic over the possibility of losing a dollar or two.
GE.[/QUOTE]I'm only 1 person's opinion, but right or wrong. I don't like paying more than I should with anything. Just a fair and hopefully advertised price.
(Ex. I just looked at my mobile phone detail for the first time in a while. I'm still paying taxes and fees based off my prior home state. It's probably on $2-3 / month, but it's still annoying. I don't want to pay that either.).
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[QUOTE=EngineDriver;1736073] Subic might only be 80 km away from AC, but you will waste half-a-day getting there and the pussy is not any better than at AC.[/QUOTE]Disagree! Not that the pussy is better. That's the same everywhere in the Phils, wet and sweet.
But its the attitude what differs. In AC you bet hardly to find a LT. Most of the promises:"Ohh yes honey, I stay longtime with you". Will be broken once fucked. Be it the friend got no keys, be it she needs to go to the hygene, be it the baby cries at home. AC is cheaper then Burgos, but still 2500 minimum down the drain for a star-fish ST.
Subic more relaxed, no DLD and drink pressure, Dryden group bars have a pay-after-scheme of 1500, and only if superb add a tip next morning. Not to forget the floating bars at daytime. Although they may get pulled in soon.
Its a more laid-back holiday feel. Whereas AC is the dusty drinking place with scams galore and a growing agressive bakla community for the one-week millionaires who don't know better.
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[QUOTE=Amadeuss;1737765]But its the attitude what differs. Subic more relaxed, no DLD and drink pressure, Dryden group bars have a pay-after-scheme of 1500, and only if superb add a tip next morning. Not to forget the floating bars at daytime. Although they may get pulled in soon.
Its a more laid-back holiday feel. Whereas AC is the dusty drinking place with scams galore [/QUOTE]Amadeuss, Subic is not for everybody and some punters just prefer AC. That's the way it should be because everybody has different tastes. I for one either prefer big city Manila or the relaxed laid back beach scene in Subic over AC, for all the reasons you gave above and then some. Most importantly, I like the Subic girls. I have never had a bad one. My hardest problem in dealing with Subic girls is turning them down and not going back to the same deserving girl I had the night before ie being a butterfly. LOL. It is hard to say no to such friendly sweet girls.
I like to stay at the Wilid Orchid with a room on the beach. I like to invite my favorite girl of the week to come by and relax by the pool in the afternoons. She usually asks if it is ok if she bring a friend. We cap off the afternoon with a drink at the Blue Rock floating bar and a late afternoon shag before she goes off to get ready for her night shift.
It is good to be by the ocean and feel those sea breezes even if I chose not to go swimming in the polluted waters. That is something in common with Pattaya although Subic is much less developed than Pattaya obviously. And although I have a few favorite bars in AC that I really like, I actually prefer the much smaller, less touristy bar scene on National Hwy in Barrio Barreto. (BTW it only takes an hour to drive from AC to Subic. Take the S3 Subic Super Shuttle [URL]http://www.drydensubic.com/[/URL] and go in comfort.).
But as I wrote above, Subic is not for everybody. My advice is check it out for a few days and see for yourself. On the other hand, don't come here. Subic is a dirty shithole and I do not want this place to ever change. Ha Ha.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1737685] It still amazes me that guys who spend thousands of dollars to get here and play get frantic over the possibility of losing a dollar or two.
GE.[/QUOTE]Good point!
[QUOTE=Random99;1737697]LOL, I wear shorts all the time and pair it with a t-shirt and quazi-baseball hat.[/QUOTE]Who or what is a quazi-baseball cap?