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Cherry, Hooker Hill
Went for a wander up Itaewon around 11 tonight. Started from the top and walked down. Not many ladies really.
\One on the left (Opry side) had some great tits and a slim body but took a walk all the way down.
Was looking for Kaye in Happy Days but didn't actually see the place anywhere.
Up towards the mosque there were a few calling out but nothing from Tiffany bar which is where I also wanted.
Back up the hill and a rather large lady called me in. Massive, massive tits which pulled me in, plus I like the bigger ladies in general.
Asked for 200, I said 100, deal. Good head, massive tits. Wasn't massively adventurous with the sex but I was happy enough.
Ended up with her on top, mish, face sitting and another BBBJ.
Would go back again. She was pleasant and didn't rush me but the mamasan ended up calling just as we finished (30 minutes). Didn't buy any drinks. No anal unfortunately.
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[QUOTE=BennLee;1874624]Just come to Busan, and I will show you, dozen type of services with girls no older than 24 for under 100000. I avail service of massage with prostate mouth riming, and sex for 90000 along with a shower together with under 25 girls, kiss bang for 70 with early 20's along with 80 percent of the time sex, and so on and so forth. I often laugh at these reviews people pay so much money for bad service.[/QUOTE]Bro,
Mind to recommend any good kiss bang in Busan? I am studying in busan now currently also. Thanks!
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Which bar?
Do you remember which bar Ms. Massive, massive tits came out of? I'm a tit man myself.
[QUOTE=KMongmong;1876643]Went for a wander up Itaewon around 11 tonight. Started from the top and walked down. Not many ladies really.
\One on the left (Opry side) had some great tits and a slim body but took a walk all the way down.
Was looking for Kaye in Happy Days but didn't actually see the place anywhere.
Up towards the mosque there were a few calling out but nothing from Tiffany bar which is where I also wanted.
Back up the hill and a rather large lady called me in. Massive, massive tits which pulled me in, plus I like the bigger ladies in general.
Asked for 200, I said 100, deal. Good head, massive tits. Wasn't massively adventurous with the sex but I was happy enough.
Ended up with her on top, mish, face sitting and another BBBJ.
Would go back again. She was pleasant and didn't rush me but the mamasan ended up calling just as we finished (30 minutes). Didn't buy any drinks. No anal unfortunately.[/QUOTE]
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Had an awesome time at Belle. My first visit was the definition of YMMV.
First, the discount card has an an address of 553-3 B1 "Do Gok Dong" "Kang Nam Gu" (I assume that's super Korean spelling).
The entrance is a bit strange if you're nervous and want to just get into a door. The signage is a tad hidden from a small hill of concrete. Anyways, you go up a few steps, around a platform, and down a staircase. Ring the totally blank bell by the gray door, and they let you in.
Anyways, wow. Belle! My first time mongering in Korea. The mama asked if it was my first time, and I said yes, she said "pay up front, put on the robe, and go shower" I had the 85,000 ready. She looked kind of impressed. Heh.
My experience was the definition of YMMV. Cute girl came in. Kind of thick, just my style. Said Hello,. English was bad. Didn't get her name. She gave a really great massage, then undressed and laid by me. I gave her a few pecks, and she laughed and said I was cute. Then we full-on made out. She gave me a BBBJ for a long time, let me do whatever I want in strictly that regard, changed positions for me, licked my balls upon request. Even caught my seed in her hand. It was probably the best experience I have had in doing this type of thing.
I know this isn't the norm, but damn. I will be back. Probably helps that I'm a young, attractive, nice / patient guy. That probably goes a long way.
She then laid back down and patted for me to do the same. Some funny back-and-forth, and she led me out.
I hammed it up and thanked the mama on my way out for letting in foreigners, for keeping their prices low, and for the nice service. She seemed like she appreciated it.
Went back a second time and it was a total meh experience with an even cuter girl. YMMV!
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[QUOTE=DabMan16;1876886]Do you remember which bar Ms. Massive, massive tits came out of? I'm a tit man myself.[/QUOTE]It was near the top in the left. Maybe opposite Gran Ole Opry. Sliding window it seemed and another girl on the right of the window. Mamasan was inside and the bar area was big.
Turns out she lived in the place, the room we fucked in.
She may be a bit too big for some guys but I enjoyed my first BBW.
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Hi,
Can you provide me with some info on Busan. I am having a hard time finding anything there. Its so much easier and better in Seoul. I have read the Busan forum but I couldn't find anything.
[QUOTE=BennLee;1874624]Just come to Busan, and I will show you, dozen type of services with girls no older than 24 for under 100000. I avail service of massage with prostate mouth riming, and sex for 90000 along with a shower together with under 25 girls, kiss bang for 70 with early 20's along with 80 percent of the time sex, and so on and so forth. I often laugh at these reviews people pay so much money for bad service.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DabMan16;1876886]Do you remember which bar Ms. Massive, massive tits came out of? I'm a tit man myself.[/QUOTE]From the bottom, walk up, its near the top left. The first place of the two connected with large class windows with curtains. If she is working, you can't miss her. She has been there for years. I have never tried her, she is a big girl so she is either your type or not. She is almost always working, makes sense if she lives there. If she is working, you won't have to look hard.
FLT.
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Places
[QUOTE=GetsZa;1877260]Hi,
Can you provide me with some info on Busan. I am having a hard time finding anything there. Its so much easier and better in Seoul. I have read the Busan forum but I couldn't find anything.[/QUOTE]As I said, just type 'massage+HD Busan' and translate it to Korean using Google translate and then search it. A lot of sites will show up and call them. Almost all massage place accept foreigners while 70 percent kiss bangs accept foreigners. Good luck. I can share website here.
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Places
[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1874805]Or area like gangnam is seoul? Or is it web based and need to search and call the site posted phone number? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I avail web based service, you can translate website using Google chrome browser. I hate RLDs, well I think it is not allowed to write URL of web here. I would say few things, cutest and horniest girls are in kiss bangs. Always ask for 20 yr old, they are very horny, they do sex. Though almost all of them are in 20-23 s. But one thing in kiss bangs if the owner know you had sex with girl then he will not welcome you next time. RLD worst service. But the best service is in geonma, massage or similar kind of places. Where a girl max 27 will do massage, sex and shower for 90000 for 50 minutes. You can search on website.
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[QUOTE=JChill;1876408]Arthur,
I appreciate your Incheon posts. What's your recommendation for someone who is only going to be there 2-5 days? Would like something reliable since I don't really hive time for a miss.[/QUOTE]When will you be here? I'm pretty familiar with Incheon and I'm happy to help point you in the right direction, but prefer to PM. Send me a message.
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Hotel talent
I read a TripAdvisor review for the "Manhattan Hotel" in Gangnam where the reviewer was complaining about prostitutes walking around and I thought to myself: I have no problems with that. Do you guys know other hotels where this happens? Is there a good selection and what's the damage like? I'm heading to Seoul in 3 weeks so I'll post whatever I find out when I go there myself.
Thanks!
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General Hill Update and Info
Went by the hill tonight.
I have a friend in town from back home, and he wanted to let loose, and didn't care about cost. I do, but anyhow, we hit up multiple spots in and around the hill.
Candy "the three hole", is still working over at Tiffany's just off the hill, across from Kings club.
Nadia is back working at Moonshine. Heavily tattooed gal, can't miss her. She'll basically let you do whatever you want, but doesn't have any spunk or spirit, so she isn't my cup of tea (only in a pinch).
The bar called Lily, who used to have a great gal named Bora ages ago, has a new girl. Talked for a bit, but as it gets hot in their rooms, and I don't perform well in a hot environment, I just bought us both a beer and then moved on.
More and more transgendered bars are opening up. Above where Polly's used to be, there were two super hot "gals". I kept doing double takes. Hottest "gals" on the strip.
O2 has a Romanian chick working there. O2 is across from the main foreign food store. Went in for a drink. 10,000 won for my beer. Have to buy a ladies drink for 30,000 won. Romanian gal wouldn't talk at all unless you bought a drink. She was "hot" in that she was thing, tall, and not Asian. But for the most part, didn't have the curves or personality I like.
Cheers has become a little strange lately. Seems to be employing more heftier girls, which I'm fine with, but they are still asking outrageous prices.
VIP, some old lady had passed out at the doorstep. Was super weird. Door stayed open for an hour while they tried to get her to move on. Still, busty Larue was trying to work the alley to get people in. She's never been worth it in my opinion.
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Candy the three holer.
What does she look like? Short hair? I passed by the other week and someone pretty cute with short hair opened the door. I'm looking for some back door action as long as the girl doesn't go incredibly slowly.
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Candy
[QUOTE=KMongmong;1878300]Candy the three holer.
What does she look like? Short hair? I passed by the other week and someone pretty cute with short hair opened the door. I'm looking for some back door action as long as the girl doesn't go incredibly slowly.[/QUOTE]Yep. Short hair. That is probably her. Great body. Although face reminds me of PSY for some reason.
But yep, she is definitely game. Don't let her overcharge you.
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Cherry. Happy Days
[QUOTE=KMongmong;1877132]It was near the top in the left. Maybe opposite Gran Ole Opry. Sliding window it seemed and another girl on the right of the window. Mamasan was inside and the bar area was big.
Turns out she lived in the place, the room we fucked in.
She may be a bit too big for some guys but I enjoyed my first BBW.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you are referring to Cherry at Happy Days. She is there every night whereas Kaye is only there on weekends. She gives a mean BBBJ and her pussy is surprisingly tight given her size.
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Coffee shop girls
Hello fellow monger!
Long time lurker, first time posting.
I have done all the big P4P ones, Anmas, BJ rooms, Kiss cafes. But now I'm fascinated with the coffee shop girls.
I have a question about those coffee shop girls (dabang girls in Korean?
And yes, I have RTFF but Dabang girls doesn't seem like a popular topic so I'm asking now.
I get the gist of it, but how does it work??
Do I just go into a sleazy love motel and hope there is a flyer or a business card with a girl and number?
And can I request for a specific type of girl? Age, body type, etc.
And what's the damage? Do they just show up to your room?
Thanks in advance!
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Looking for specific recommendations.
I am going to be in Seoul in a week and looking to sample what's available. My preference would be more of kiss bangs or officetels or other such places.
Where you get more of a GFE but then finish up with a nice BBBJ! Generally RLDs don't seem to cater to that style of experience.
Jordan88, BennLee and others seem to have a lot of experience they have shared, but returning to Korean scene after a long time, I am not entirely sure how to navigate.
Looking for some specific places, instructions and if possible even the ladies names. Please feel free to PM.
Thanks a lot in advance.
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Re: backpage ads / trends
*This whole thing about independent independent independent. It misses the point. The only possible benefit of being with an independent, is maybe you'd get extra time on the clock.
*The real issue is the pictures and if they're real or not. Look carefully at the ads, 100% guarantee on pictures, send me away if it's not the same.
*When making e-mail contact, be clear that you will not accept anyone who is different from the pictures. If you don't get a response. You've saved yourself some money and some grief.
*Hotel only is a new trend, and it's also a good sign that the person in the ad is "real".
*Haven't tried Bohemian escort yet but it actually sounds like an extremely good deal, considering the pictures are apparently legit. Seems like an equivalent to an upscale stateside agency.
*Don't know if it's the time of year (make some bucks before summer), but there does appear to be some legit young material out there on backpage. I will try to squeeze several in the next month or two, and post experiences.
I've got a go-to-Thai place. And I think I've messed it up for myself. I used to be able to get FS for 50,000 won. Quite easily. But it's clear the girls there know exactly what my deal is now, and I can't even crack the surface anymore until I pull out 100,000. It's awful. My solution? Boycott the place for 5 months or so. The girls at these places have an extremely high turnover rate.
I don't think I'll ever go to an anma again. The anma ritual is boring and so incredibly mechanical. For 230,000 I'd rather get a 2 hour massage with FS, as opposed to the same old same old with a machine. The best anmas would be ones with non-Korean staff (which seems like an oxymoron, but there were a few I've been to in the past) where it's more YMMV with good upside.
Noraebang girls. I don't have a lot of experience. 4 or 5 times. I did get one girls number and we did meet a few times, and that was great. If you go with a group, for me it's better to ask for the girls who don't take you to a motel. They're younger, and YMMV, but you have the possibility of encouraging them to go to a room with you. It's just more exciting than the slam dunk girls.
I haven't been to a kiss bang in a long time, and it sounds like the ones Hongdae are a nightmare. 8, 9, 10 years ago, kiss bangs were just fantastic. The best thing to do is know the hangul for kiss bang, and get away from the main spots. It's been a while, but I had a few great experiences on the outskirts of seoul.
In the years I've lurked here, I haven't gotten really any good intel on places to go, from this site. On my list of things to do, I think it's just Jinju that I got from this site. I highly recommend experiencing the thrill of the hunt. Go to stations that you've never heard of before, walk around for 30 to 45 minutes, and dive in. When you're obsessed with the sure thing, you're bound to be disappointed. Just my opinion.
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Coffee Shop Girls
[QUOTE=Jordan88;1879325]Hello fellow monger!
Long time lurker, first time posting.
I have done all the big P4P ones, Anmas, BJ rooms, Kiss cafes. But now I'm fascinated with the coffee shop girls.
I have a question about those coffee shop girls (dabang girls in Korean?
And yes, I have RTFF but Dabang girls doesn't seem like a popular topic so I'm asking now.
I get the gist of it, but how does it work??
Do I just go into a sleazy love motel and hope there is a flyer or a business card with a girl and number?
And can I request for a specific type of girl? Age, body type, etc.
And what's the damage? Do they just show up to your room?
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Jordan,
I too have been curious about coffee girls too but from what I've noticed here in Seoul there're that popular. Maybe in the working district here. However, when I go outside of Seoul as close as Suwon I've seen coffee shop advertisements in the love motels in Daegu, Daejeon and such. I have to admit that I like the setup of coffee shop girls but it might be a thing of the past soon.
LM
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Nayoung, backpage
Fake pics. Definitely has someone setting her up. Attractive sort of. But chubby and she just lays there during sex. Dark complexion. Out the door as soon as she is done. My bad for letting her in the door. There are many similar ads to Nayoung so I'm thinking they are all basically the same deal. Attractive but not nearly enough for the salon scene. Decent English. Has someone answering their emails for them and driving them around. I will sample some other backpagers that seem legit and post reports. Steer clear of Nayoung and postings that are similar to hers.
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Backpage advice
If an ad on backpage says something like "my assistant will pick up the phone", that's the agency talking. If you look at the email addresses, they all have the same format, probably some bot managing all the accounts and forwarding the emails to the same guy(s).
There are virtually no indies on backpage, all those ads on there are from the same handful of agencies. The few indies on there already post adds on massage republic.
The indie scene in Korea has gone to shit recently. Same girls with the same outrageous prices. With the exception of maybe two or three, what these girls offer comes nowhere near what they are charging in terms of quality of service.
Hopefully, the indie scene will improve to what it was like back in 12-13.
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[QUOTE=PegInThePoke;1878484]Yep. Short hair. That is probably her. Great body. Although face reminds me of PSY for some reason.
But yep, she is definitely game. Don't let her overcharge you.[/QUOTE]How much does one pay extra for anal? I'm usually paying 100 k for a girl for a regular fuck.
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Strip Show + CIM BBBJ
After receiving a zillion text messages letting me know that someone in Seoul is running a strip show with extra service, curiosity got the better of me and I went to its out-of-the-way, secret location. I'm very glad I did. The deal is there're some girls behind glass who dance around nude, spread the pussy, fingerbang themselves, and generally give you the full peepshow experience. Then a female "manager" (not from the same crew as the girls) enters and sucks you off while the dancers cheer. I was expecting either the dancers, the manager, or both to be mildly unattractive but was pleasantly surprised to find that all the women working in this place are amazing-looking. It was a great blowjob too. There were two real surprises at the end: First, the manager I drew (luck of the draw, I guess) was pretty, had a great figure, and spoke excellent English, having gone to college in Vancouver. Second, the manager I drew, having swallowed my seed, asked me to fuck her after work. So, we did. And it was amazing; she likes the thumb in her ass which makes me keen for a return visit. Really, a hidden gem.
The price? W100,000 for the strip show and blowjob, W30,000 in tips (W10,000 each) for the three dancers who showed me their furburgers, W22,000 for some fried chicken hanging around two hours, and W35,000 for the motel where we banged away. I believe Ms. Vancouver may believe there is some potential to glom onto me. Who knows about that?
And no, I will not disclose the location. This one's too good.
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The cost of Candy (aka. Sweet ooth)
[QUOTE=KMongmong;1881025]How much does one pay extra for anal? I'm usually paying 100 k for a girl for a regular fuck.[/QUOTE]I usually pay 80 for a regular fuck, but I've been in the scene a bit, and the regular girls know me.
As for anal with Candy. I haven't gone to her in ages, but if memory serves, I got her to do it for as low as 120,000. But I am sure is that is because I used to be a regular. I think she'd definitely do it for 150,000. And then, the more she knows you, the more you can lower it.
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[QUOTE=SpottedDick;1881416]After receiving a zillion text messages letting me know that someone in Seoul is running a strip show with extra service, curiosity got the better of me and I went to its out-of-the-way, secret location. I'm very glad I did. The deal is there're some girls behind glass who dance around nude, spread the pussy, fingerbang themselves, and generally give you the full peepshow experience. Then a female "manager" (not from the same crew as the girls) enters and sucks you off while the dancers cheer. I was expecting either the dancers, the manager, or both to be mildly unattractive but was pleasantly surprised to find that all the women working in this place are amazing-looking. It was a great blowjob too. There were two real surprises at the end: First, the manager I drew (luck of the draw, I guess) was pretty, had a great figure, and spoke excellent English, having gone to college in Vancouver. Second, the manager I drew, having swallowed my seed, asked me to fuck her after work. So, we did. And it was amazing; she likes the thumb in her ass which makes me keen for a return visit. Really, a hidden gem.
The price? W100,000 for the strip show and blowjob, W30,000 in tips (W10,000 each) for the three dancers who showed me their furburgers, W22,000 for some fried chicken hanging around two hours, and W35,000 for the motel where we banged away. I believe Ms. Vancouver may believe there is some potential to glom onto me. Who knows about that?
And no, I will not disclose the location. This one's too good.[/QUOTE]Sounds great. Wished you would of kept it to yourself though since you are not sharing and details.
FLT.
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Meaning
In Oppi listing a D cup size is sometimes listed as be+컵 or see+컵.
1) Does the + stand for enhanced or simply 'large' be cup?
2) Also how can you request enhanced breasts in Korean or understandable korenglish?
Hope someone can answer.
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Completely New
Hey guys,
I just found this forum a few days ago. I Korean American with conversational Korean ability. I just recently arrived in Korea and I have no idea where to look and what to look for. If any of you guys can give me some pointers and suggestions, that would be great. I'm looking forward to contributing once I get my feet wet.
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Not cool dude not cool. LOL. Sounds like a secret worth keeping. I had some secret anma spots when I was there about 10 years ago. Can't wait to get back this summer. DATY in Seoul is just about the tastiest experience I've ever had.
[QUOTE=SpottedDick;1881416]After receiving a zillion text messages letting me know that someone in Seoul is running a strip show with extra service, curiosity got the better of me and I went to its out-of-the-way, secret location. I'm very glad I did. The deal is there're some girls behind glass who dance around nude, spread the pussy, fingerbang themselves, and generally give you the full peepshow experience. Then a female "manager" (not from the same crew as the girls) enters and sucks you off while the dancers cheer. I was expecting either the dancers, the manager, or both to be mildly unattractive but was pleasantly surprised to find that all the women working in this place are amazing-looking. It was a great blowjob too. There were two real surprises at the end: First, the manager I drew (luck of the draw, I guess) was pretty, had a great figure, and spoke excellent English, having gone to college in Vancouver. Second, the manager I drew, having swallowed my seed, asked me to fuck her after work. So, we did. And it was amazing; she likes the thumb in her ass which makes me keen for a return visit. Really, a hidden gem.
The price? W100,000 for the strip show and blowjob, W30,000 in tips (W10,000 each) for the three dancers who showed me their furburgers, W22,000 for some fried chicken hanging around two hours, and W35,000 for the motel where we banged away. I believe Ms. Vancouver may believe there is some potential to glom onto me. Who knows about that?
And no, I will not disclose the location. This one's too good.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=TowTowRow;1879966]I haven't been to a kiss bang in a long time, and it sounds like the ones Hongdae are a nightmare. 8, 9, 10 years ago, kiss bangs were just fantastic. The best thing to do is know the hangul for kiss bang, and get away from the main spots. It's been a while, but I had a few great experiences on the outskirts of seoul.[/QUOTE]I know they've probably long since turned over, but what areas were you finding them in? I enjoyed the kiss bang experience and would like to get away from the main ones in Hongdae. A lot of the places I would guess are kiss bangs (big Ks in the signs and such) seem to be attached to noraebangs and I can't tell what the deal is. I'd love to find a few kiss bangs outside of Seoul.
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Seems like posts with specific places with clear directions are a thing of the past.
Seoul has always been rather difficult to navigate (apart from hooker hill) but in the past, most posts would give explicit directions of how to get to a place. I am noticing now that posts seem to not want to go into that detail or share that info! The usefulness of those posts is pretty much nil. Not sure why this trend as become common. For example, I am looking for kiss bangs with a good chance of extra services (at least a BBBJ) and even going back a few months I couldn't get a single specific recommendation with directions. Miss the good old days.
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Some help
[QUOTE=SadSam;1882392]Seoul has always been rather difficult to navigate (apart from hooker hill) but in the past, most posts would give explicit directions of how to get to a place. I am noticing now that posts seem to not want to go into that detail or share that info! The usefulness of those posts is pretty much nil. Not sure why this trend as become common. For example, I am looking for kiss bangs with a good chance of extra services (at least a BBBJ) and even going back a few months I couldn't get a single specific recommendation with directions. Miss the good old days.[/QUOTE]I can give you this. Jamsil Fox in, well, Jamsil (end of Seokchon lake) does BBBJ. Or, at the very least, the girl I had. I just did that on Monday. If you type in 기49828;48169; in Google maps, it'll tell you.
However, you need to make an appointment, and if you just show up as a foreigner, they will deny you. The building doesn't even advertisement for the room (4th flr).
If you can't set up an appointment yourself, you need a a Korean friend to do it, cause it is all in Korean.
Luckily, I met a a great Korean friend, who turned out to be a huge monger himself, that helps me out in these situations, so he set it up for me.
All in all, good time. It was my third time visiting a Kiss Bang.
Another new one is opening up this week in Sincheon (by Jamsil, not the Hongdae one). I went there last week, when I was walking the bar street in Sincheon, and noticed it when I looked up. It too is on the 4th floor, but is the only place on the strip with the word "Kiss" on it. Owner was just finishing up on it, and told me it would be open this week.
Hope that helps. I wish people would share more on here too, but I also get wanting to protect the gold at the end of the rainbow you found yourself.
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[QUOTE=SadSam;1882392]Seoul has always been rather difficult to navigate (apart from hooker hill) but in the past, most posts would give explicit directions of how to get to a place. I am noticing now that posts seem to not want to go into that detail or share that info! The usefulness of those posts is pretty much nil. Not sure why this trend as become common. For example, I am looking for kiss bangs with a good chance of extra services (at least a BBBJ) and even going back a few months I couldn't get a single specific recommendation with directions. Miss the good old days.[/QUOTE]Some people just can't be trusted with displaying appropriate behavior at these places.
Some mongers overpay and overtip the girls. Which distorts the field for future foreigners.
Some mongers don't know the etiquette at these places, it usually only takes one or two badly behaved guys to put an establishment off accepting foreigners for a few months, if not for good.
I've even heard stories of mongers advising independents (back when the scene was good) to UP THEIR PRICES, which sounds completely nuts.
Then there are those who lurk and leech, but don't post any information on their own adventures in Seoul.
All in all, if I were to find a good place, I'd share it in PMs with those who have access to the service, but you have to assume that everyone you tell will also pass that info on to someone else.
If I were to find a golden provider or establishment though, chances are I won't share it too. It's just the way things are.
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Thanks you for trying to help but.
[QUOTE=PegInThePoke;1882419]I can give you this. Jamsil Fox in, well, Jamsil (end of Seokchon lake) does BBBJ. Or, at the very least, the girl I had. I just did that on Monday. If you type in 기49828;48169; in Google maps, it'll tell you.
However, you need to make an appointment, and if you just show up as a foreigner, they will deny you. The building doesn't even advertisement for the room (4th flr).
If you can't set up an appointment yourself, you need a a Korean friend to do it, cause it is all in Korean.
Luckily, I met a a great Korean friend, who turned out to be a huge monger himself, that helps me out in these situations, so he set it up for me.
All in all, good time. It was my third time visiting a Kiss Bang.
Another new one is opening up this week in Sincheon (by Jamsil, not the Hongdae one). I went there last week, when I was walking the bar street in Sincheon, and noticed it when I looked up. It too is on the 4th floor, but is the only place on the strip with the word "Kiss" on it. Owner was just finishing up on it, and told me it would be open this week.
Hope that helps. I wish people would share more on here too, but I also get wanting to protect the gold at the end of the rainbow you found yourself.[/QUOTE]I am here for another 2 nights but I am not hopeful. I tried doing the Google search you mentioned but it couldn't figure out. Maybe a link to the maps would have helped. If any one wants yo help out. Kiss bangs with names or directions or phone numbers if possible. I prefer curvy even if not the twenty year old ladies and certainly GFE and a BBBJ finish. If there are similar massage places in the under 120 range would be great too. Please feel free to PM me if you can't divulge all the details. Unlike other places, Seoul is one where things change rapidly and without explicit directions, things I find are pretty useless.
Anyway, I do understand the concerns about some inconsiderate people doing dumb things but if there is not clear info sharing, I am not sure how much help it is for everyone else yo know that things are possible but out of most people's reach.
Just my $0.02.
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Got a day to burn
Hi all,
This is my first post so I apologize that I'm seeking Intel on a first post. I'm based out of country so I'm active in the USA board (separate site).
If anyone has any info on best bang for you buck, I'd love to hear it. I was thinking either kiss bang (I'm reading some luck with FS, but that's a YMMV situation) or Eve / Fish.
Anyone know which is better of Eve / Fish? I also saw a good review for Belle, although that's only BJ.
Thanks all, and happy mongering.
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Kaye-Happy Days
Has anyone seen Kaye recently? I have a short visit to Seoul coming up with only Friday night free to hobby. She used to work only weekends but that may have changed. Don't want to waste timing going up to the Hill if she is no longer working.
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Kaye -Happy Days
[QUOTE=Lion55;1884577]Has anyone seen Kaye recently? I have a short visit to Seoul coming up with only Friday night free to hobby. She used to work only weekends but that may have changed. Don't want to waste timing going up to the Hill if she is no longer working.[/QUOTE]I took a chance during a brief stopover in Seoul and went up to the Hill and sure enough Kaye was there. She looks as good as ever; she may even have lost some weight. I'd love to have seen what she looked like 10-15 years ago. She delivered her usual GFE service. Nice massage, BBBJ, 69 (she really gets into DATY) and FS in multiple positions. She is still one of my ATFs. I only wish I could visit Seoul more often.
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Incheon RLD
Lately I've seen some interest in potential activities in Incheon. I don't like to post too much information publicly since there are limited opportunities for foreigners in Incheon and I don't want them to get trampled by poor etiquette or something. With Seoul being so accessible, I figure people can just go there. But it's time to give back and I think this is a safe bet.
By the way, I'm posting this in the Seoul thread because 'Other Areas' looks a little under-trafficked and I've seen talk of Incheon here before. I'll post it also over there if that's allowed.
There is a small RLD in Incheon that, in my experience, is extremely foreigner friendly. Take the subway to Sungui Station on the Suin Line and exit the station through Exit 4. Upon submitting the escalator, keep going straight while bearing right around the bend. There is a small, roughly two block RLD district off to your right before you get to the see you convenience store. Take a right off of the main street and just zig zag through the side streets a couple of times. You can recognize you're in the right area by all of the yellow facades (this area is actually called "Yellow House" in Korean).
The RLD isn't super active, which might be why I've always been welcomed. Girls are typically a bit older (30's or more), but decent. The going rate seems to be 70,000 KRW and condoms seem to be optionally in most places. I've had no above and beyond service here and it's always an in and out proposition. I've only gone during the early evening (daylight hours), because I don't like the hassle of drunk Korean men. Perhaps it is more active at night.
Enjoy.
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[QUOTE=PegInThePoke;1881547]I usually pay 80 for a regular fuck, but I've been in the scene a bit, and the regular girls know me.
As for anal with Candy. I haven't gone to her in ages, but if memory serves, I got her to do it for as low as 120,000. But I am sure is that is because I used to be a regular. I think she'd definitely do it for 150,000. And then, the more she knows you, the more you can lower it.[/QUOTE]Girls on the Hill will go for 100,000, but you can talk them down to 80,000. I've talked them way down from there, to 50,000, but she must have been desperate and it was late / early morning time to go. Speaking of Candy, she and Kelly from Texas will do a threesome for 200,000. She might let you do anal with a threesome, but I don't know. I did BBFS with Candy way back in December 2007 and got burned. Didn't try it with her again, though I did let her know. She's a funny chick and I like dropping by and having a drink and will buy her one occasionally. Her partner with the huge tits is fun, too. Both have taken way too many dicks for the past 13 years (first time I had fun with her friend).
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Officetel girls
Hey,
I looked on backpage and found the girls to be too expensive. 200 to 300 usd, condoms, no anal, blah blah blah. But I had heard officetel girls are much cheaper; not as pretty though but more fun. Is there a website or a forum (specifically for sex in Korea) or a person I can call to talk to? I'm so confused LOL. Plus do most girls not do anal and not have sex with no condom? Also how is hooker hill?? I had heard the girls there are dirtier but a lot cheaper; something which I don't mind at all. Sorry for all the questions by I'm new to all this. You know actually someone told me to call a Dabang? Its on the tissue box and the girls come right to your hotel room. Plus they're a lot cheaper. Thanks friends for any help. I'm pretty all have so much more. LOL.
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A way around Korean net censorship
Hello,
This is my first chance to make a positive contribution to this forum.
I have read here frequently people complaining about the Korean net censorship of web sites.
If you use the Tor anonymous web browser it gets around the net nanny stuff. It's free to download and it does work. If you Google "Tor" it will probably be at the top of the list.
The full name for Tor is the "Tor Project: Anonymity Online".
It is a bit slower than a normal browser, however, it does work. I've used it to download porn while in my Seoul hotel rooms, which was completely off limits with a normal web browser.
I hope that helps.
Bye,
Ian.
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[QUOTE=BlazeJohnny03;1889681]Hey,
I looked on backpage and found the girls to be too expensive. 200 to 300 usd, condoms, no anal, blah blah blah. But I had heard officetel girls are much cheaper; not as pretty though but more fun. Is there a website or a forum (specifically for sex in Korea) or a person I can call to talk to? I'm so confused LOL. Plus do most girls not do anal and not have sex with no condom? Also how is hooker hill?? I had heard the girls there are dirtier but a lot cheaper; something which I don't mind at all. Sorry for all the questions by I'm new to all this. You know actually someone told me to call a Dabang? Its on the tissue box and the girls come right to your hotel room. Plus they're a lot cheaper. Thanks friends for any help. I'm pretty all have so much more. LOL.[/QUOTE]Hooker hill girls dirtier? I don't know about that. Older? Yes. Maybe freakier and cheaper, which is a win-win to me. I'm biased though, I love the hill, so many memories and I know all the girls.
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[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1889364]Lately I've seen some interest in potential activities in Incheon. I don't like to post too much information publicly since there are limited opportunities for foreigners in Incheon and I don't want them to get trampled by poor etiquette or something. With Seoul being so accessible, I figure people can just go there. But it's time to give back and I think this is a safe bet.
By the way, I'm posting this in the Seoul thread because 'Other Areas' looks a little under-trafficked and I've seen talk of Incheon here before. I'll post it also over there if that's allowed.
There is a small RLD in Incheon that, in my experience, is extremely foreigner friendly. Take the subway to Sungui Station on the Suin Line and exit the station through Exit 4. Upon submitting the escalator, keep going straight while bearing right around the bend. There is a small, roughly two block RLD district off to your right before you get to the see you convenience store. Take a right off of the main street and just zig zag through the side streets a couple of times. You can recognize you're in the right area by all of the yellow facades (this area is actually called "Yellow House" in Korean).
The RLD isn't super active, which might be why I've always been welcomed. Girls are typically a bit older (30's or more), but decent. The going rate seems to be 70,000 KRW and condoms seem to be optionally in most places. I've had no above and beyond service here and it's always an in and out proposition. I've only gone during the early evening (daylight hours), because I don't like the hassle of drunk Korean men. Perhaps it is more active at night.
Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report.
I can verify that Yellow house indeed is foreigner friendly.
Works similar to Miari. Windows are covered (yellow film hence the name), old ladies pull you in where younger girls are waiting. You are then taken to a room where you can shower and do your thing. If there are guys around, the women will be a lot more discreet and you might not be able to pick your girl.
I couldn't get BBFS on my first visit, but I wasn't really in the mood to walk out or persuade. I did keep the tip I would have otherwise given her though, which was on the table. I'm sure BBFS is on the table if you play your cards right, which I intend to do on my next visit.
Price: 70-80 k.
Girl: early 30's, decent petite body, very nice boobs 6. 5/10.
BJ: mediocre 4/10.
FS: tight and warm, would have been much better without a coat 6/10.
Attitude: very bubbly and talkative, no awkwardness 8/10.
Overall I would give my first experience there a 6. 5/10. Not fantastic, not terrible either.
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VIP Massage Gangnam
FS massage less than five minutes walk from Gangnam Station. Come out Exit 5. Make the first right and then the next right. About a quarter of a block down on your right, across from the see you, you will see spinning poles that say 'Massage' in both English and Japanese. Go up the steps into the building and take either the steps or elevator to the basement. The massage place is clearly marked next to the noraebang.
I was greeted by a guy who spoke a few words of English. He showed me to a small room with an attached shower room. Washed and waited about five minutes. In came a tall, slender, late-20's Chinese girl. She spoke fluent Korean, Chinese, and a smattering of English.
Small talk, brief massage, BBBJ, CFS. Damage: 120,000 KRW. More expensive than barbershops, less expensive than anmas. Not rushed, very polite and was willing to sit and chat afterwards. Got her Katalk / Wechat.
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Did you just gamble that a FS was available? Or just expecting HJ only?
I probably wouldn't gamble like you did if not 100%.
Also, was the massage even decent or just finger tip effort?
[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1892706]FS massage less than five minutes walk from Gangnam Station. Come out Exit 5. Make the first right and then the next right. About a quarter of a block down on your right, across from the see you, you will see spinning poles that say 'Massage' in both English and Japanese. Go up the steps into the building and take either the steps or elevator to the basement. The massage place is clearly marked next to the noraebang.
I was greeted by a guy who spoke a few words of English. He showed me to a small room with an attached shower room. Washed and waited about five minutes. In came a tall, slender, late-20's Chinese girl. She spoke fluent Korean, Chinese, and a smattering of English.
Small talk, brief massage, BBBJ, CFS. Damage: 120,000 KRW. More expensive than barbershops, less expensive than anmas. Not rushed, very polite and was willing to sit and chat afterwards. Got her Katalk / Wechat.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1893068]I probably wouldn't gamble like you did if not 100%.
Also, was the massage even decent or just finger tip effort?[/QUOTE]FS places are usually pretty easy to identify, I think. They're often disguised as "sports massage" (though often written in Korean) or have poles with English / Japanese / Chinese on them. Once you walk in, you can get a pretty good sense as well. The cost is one indicator, the shower in the room and mirror on the wall is another. So is having a middle aged male staff attendant showing you to the room. When in doubt, I just ask. They're honest about what you're paying for.
The massage was not a legit massage. Five minutes or so spent rubbing my back and legs.
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Cheongnyangni 588 demolition
Went by there yesterday (was there last month) and it looks like a whole bunch of new buildings and windows have been marked for demolition. Looks like it is almost shrinking down to half its size.
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How to spell strip club or the equivalent in Hangul?
Hello everyone,
By any chance, does anyone know how to spell or write "strip club"or the equivalent in Hangul?
I've searched on the net for obvious things such as "49828;53944;47532;54140; 클47101;" however it hasn't tuned up anything.
I suspect it's a matter of knowing the idol such as "53412;49828; 방 for a "kiss room".
Thank you.
Bye.
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Cheongnyangni 588
[QUOTE=PegInThePoke;1893362]Went by there yesterday (was there last month) and it looks like a whole bunch of new buildings and windows have been marked for demolition. Looks like it is almost shrinking down to half its size.[/QUOTE]Are there any houses that are still open by now? Did you see even one or two that were open?
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Hes blowing it out of proportion. I was there last week. The majoe shops all open.
Some shops in the obscure areas looked closed but majority of the shops and the main ones were all open and busy as usual. No indication its closing down anytime soon. BBFS seem less though. I've been striking out. Last 3 girls all said no. Even offered to give my money back. Not sure why. Maybe there was an outbreak of std I'm not aware of?
[QUOTE=VagBond;1894183]Are there any houses that are still open by now? Did you see even one or two that were open?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1894777]Some shops in the obscure areas looked closed but majority of the shops and the main ones were all open and busy as usual. No indication its closing down anytime soon. BBFS seem less though. I've been striking out. Last 3 girls all said no. Even offered to give my money back. Not sure why. Maybe there was an outbreak of std I'm not aware of?[/QUOTE]I certainly didn't mean to suggest that it was tiny now, but since last month, easily about 12 or more shops have been marked up for demolition. Yes, the main "T-Section" nerve is still there, and probably will be like that for a while.
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Still operational
[QUOTE=VagBond;1894183]Are there any houses that are still open by now? Did you see even one or two that were open?[/QUOTE]All I was trying to convey is that it was shrinking. By what I consider to be a fair degree.
I worry it will go the way of Yongsan.
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588 and others
I was at 588 during the day a few weeks back. Looked miserable as fuck.
A lot of the buildings indeed are marked for demo, some cases a girl would have both establishments either side of her marked for demolition, and she would still look uninterested as mongerers walk by, Korean mongerers included.
None of that has beckoned the girls there to call out to me though. Even the fat and old ones give a look of disdain as I walk by.
I don't know which RLD is worse for non-East Asian looking foreigners, Suwon or 588. Both have some attractive prospects, but man their attitudes are rotten. I won't class Suwon "be" row, because you could walk through 3 times in one night and not find a provider under 50.
Incheon Yellow House, Miari and Cheonho still remain foreigner friendly, with good service available at 70-90 k (100 for cheonho). I'll scout Yeongdeungpo to see if I can score there.
Indie scene is still dead in the water as far as I'm concerned.
There's a middle aged provider that advertises on CL every once in a while. Her ad reads something like "not looking for a BF etc" and she posts her kik ID. I can vouch for her, not a stunner (a bit on the thick side), but she gives a mean BJ and can ride like a proper pro. She doesn't clock watch either, has a bubbly persona, and her rates are 120 k. DO NOT ASK OR ADVISE HER TO RAISE HER RATES!
Good luck out there!
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[QUOTE=RainMania;1895515]I was at 588 during the day a few weeks back. Looked miserable as fuck.
There's a middle aged provider that advertises on CL every once in a while. Her ad reads something like "not looking for a BF etc" and she posts her kik ID. I can vouch for her, not a stunner (a bit on the thick side), but she gives a mean BJ and can ride like a proper pro. She doesn't clock watch either, has a bubbly persona, and her rates are 120 k. DO NOT ASK OR ADVISE HER TO RAISE HER RATES!
Good luck out there![/QUOTE]I should also clarify the provider I'm referring to is not BBW Trixie. This one goes by the name Saera or something similar.
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Hi RainMania,
Can you do me a favor and suggest me something safe and fun (even Nuru) in Seoul. I am traveling for the first time there and would like to do my research before.
Thanks. You can PM me.
[QUOTE=RainMania;1882578]Some people just can't be trusted with displaying appropriate behavior at these places.
Some mongers overpay and overtip the girls. Which distorts the field for future foreigners.
Some mongers don't know the etiquette at these places, it usually only takes one or two badly behaved guys to put an establishment off accepting foreigners for a few months, if not for good.
I've even heard stories of mongers advising independents (back when the scene was good) to UP THEIR PRICES, which sounds completely nuts.
Then there are those who lurk and leech, but don't post any information on their own adventures in Seoul.
All in all, if I were to find a good place, I'd share it in PMs with those who have access to the service, but you have to assume that everyone you tell will also pass that info on to someone else.
If I were to find a golden provider or establishment though, chances are I won't share it too. It's just the way things are.[/QUOTE]
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Hongdae and myeongdong research
Hey guys,
coming back to KR after a long break anyone got info on kiss bangs currently available in Hongdae? I know they close often. Also is there any play to be had in myeongdong going to be my first time staying there. Thanks all!
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Reviews of non-Korean escorts?
Lately on bpage there has been a rotating group of Thai escorts based at a popular Itaewon hotel. The email address is something like modelbangkokescorts. Rates are cheaper than many other escort options, but I haven't tried them yet. Has anyone tried Pita, Maya, Chon, Areeya and whoever the other girls are? Were they worth the money & effort?
There's also a half-NZ half-Japanese girl who only advertises on bpage. I don't know what her rates are but her photos look great. Has anyone tried her and can recommend or badmouth her?
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588 update on potential closing.
So went back and asked few girls and looks like 588 is going to disappear in a year or two.
Girls told me the area is being developed and like Yeongdopo everyone is being pushed out. Some of the girls don't know when they will be gone. Few said they might have to do anmas or offictels service route.
Sucks but it is what it is.
[QUOTE=RainMania;1895515]I was at 588 during the day a few weeks back. Looked miserable as fuck.
A lot of the buildings indeed are marked for demo, some cases a girl would have both establishments either side of her marked for demolition, and she would still look uninterested as mongerers walk by, Korean mongerers included.
None of that has beckoned the girls there to call out to me though. Even the fat and old ones give a look of disdain as I walk by.
I don't know which RLD is worse for non-East Asian looking foreigners, Suwon or 588. Both have some attractive prospects, but man their attitudes are rotten. I won't class Suwon "be" row, because you could walk through 3 times in one night and not find a provider under 50.
Incheon Yellow House, Miari and Cheonho still remain foreigner friendly, with good service available at 70-90 k (100 for cheonho). I'll scout Yeongdeungpo to see if I can score there.
Indie scene is still dead in the water as far as I'm concerned.
There's a middle aged provider that advertises on CL every once in a while. Her ad reads something like "not looking for a BF etc" and she posts her kik ID. I can vouch for her, not a stunner (a bit on the thick side), but she gives a mean BJ and can ride like a proper pro. She doesn't clock watch either, has a bubbly persona, and her rates are 120 k. DO NOT ASK OR ADVISE HER TO RAISE HER RATES!
Good luck out there![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=RainMania;1895515]I was at 588 during the day a few weeks back. Looked miserable as fuck.
A lot of the buildings indeed are marked for demo, some cases a girl would have both establishments either side of her marked for demolition, and she would still look uninterested as mongerers walk by, Korean mongerers included.
None of that has beckoned the girls there to call out to me though. Even the fat and old ones give a look of disdain as I walk by.
I don't know which RLD is worse for non-East Asian looking foreigners, Suwon or 588. Both have some attractive prospects, but man their attitudes are rotten. I won't class Suwon "be" row, because you could walk through 3 times in one night and not find a provider under 50.
Incheon Yellow House, Miari and Cheonho still remain foreigner friendly, with good service available at 70-90 k (100 for cheonho). I'll scout Yeongdeungpo to see if I can score there.
Indie scene is still dead in the water as far as I'm concerned.
There's a middle aged provider that advertises on CL every once in a while. Her ad reads something like "not looking for a BF etc" and she posts her kik ID. I can vouch for her, not a stunner (a bit on the thick side), but she gives a mean BJ and can ride like a proper pro. She doesn't clock watch either, has a bubbly persona, and her rates are 120 k. DO NOT ASK OR ADVISE HER TO RAISE HER RATES!
Good luck out there![/QUOTE]How is Mi-ah-lee? Seems the RLDs are all but dead, Itaewon has trannies, so where is the FS action at?
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1896084]So went back and asked few girls and looks like 588 is going to disappear in a year or two.
Girls told me the area is being developed and like Yeongdopo everyone is being pushed out. Some of the girls don't know when they will be gone. Few said they might have to do anmas or offictels service route.
Sucks but it is what it is.[/QUOTE]Some of the girls might be good enough for anmas, but they'll need a serious attitude readjustment if they are to survive that kind of environment.
They're delusional if they believe they're officetel quality. There are plenty of willing girls under 24 in the officetel scene. RLD girls won't be able to compete, unless they offer significantly lower rates.
I think most of them will shift over to other RLDs, some might go independent (Korean only LOL), the lucky ones might end up abroad.
These gals don't realize the potential goldmine they could have with foreign mongerers. Maybe if they shift to more foreigner friendly sites, their attitudes might change. The mamasans at Miari will definitely snuff that bullshit out.
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Its hit and miss in any serivce types. Anmas, room salons, incalls, etc.
Some girls are duds and some great. Some officetel chicks are so so and just lie there like some dead zombie.
As for rates. RLDs are the cheapest of the FS types so not sure what your talking unless your counting 1 HR time rates.
As for foreignors service. Its really weird if you compare US kgirl service to Korea Kgril serivice. The same kgirls who work in Korea who don't DFK, rim, CIM, or offer anytype of GFE but get them to US they suddenly have no problems kissing like lost lovers, CIM with snowballing, rimming etc. And the rate is pretty much the same around 250. Not sure what the kgirls share in incalls and room salons in Korea is but in US the girls take home 150 of the 250. I'm guessing Korea is maybe 100? So for that 50 difference the kgirls offer way more service and better attitude and most of the girls who work in US are top tier room salon girls so look really hot. And they fuck blacks, hispanics, whites, with no problem so not sure why the limited foriegn service in Korea is.
[QUOTE=RainMania;1896502]Some of the girls might be good enough for anmas, but they'll need a serious attitude readjustment if they are to survive that kind of environment.
They're delusional if they believe they're officetel quality. There are plenty of willing girls under 24 in the officetel scene. RLD girls won't be able to compete, unless they offer significantly lower rates.
I think most of them will shift over to other RLDs, some might go independent (Korean only LOL), the lucky ones might end up abroad.
These gals don't realize the potential goldmine they could have with foreign mongerers. Maybe if they shift to more foreigner friendly sites, their attitudes might change. The mamasans at Miari will definitely snuff that bullshit out.[/QUOTE]
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Agree that performances can be hot or miss.
But officetel girls aren't really about the performance. It's about the age they are or the age they can claim to be, that's where the value is.
Most RLD girls, even the 588 ones, will never pass for anything under 28-30, which is practically grandma age in the eyes of Korean mongerers who would rather settle for a 22 year old NF (new face). They'll have better luck in anmas, but they'll have to get used to not being the boss, and not deciding who to fuck for the most part.
I also agree that RLDs offer the best bang for buck, but something tells me if these girls move into the officetel scene, the pimps won't be charging RLD rates, the potential for greed is just too much. Then again, the only way RLD girls would be able to adequately compete with officetel girls (younger ones) on any meaningful level, would be to offer RLD rates in officetels, but I doubt the pimps will be having any of that. Either way, most 588 girls are screwed once the place finally shuts down.
As we all know, each RLD zone has its own characteristics on how it deals with foreigners.
Miari - Very friendly
588 - go fuck yourself you disgusting foreign ballbag
Cheonho - Weary but accepting
Suwon A row - Go fuck yourself you diseased invader
Incheon yellow house - Indifferent, but accepting.
I don't know who sets the tone at these zones, but I once met a Miari girl who worked at Suwon RLD. She was A-row material (7/10), and wasn't surprised when I told her about my experiences in suwon. In Miari, she was more than happy to BBFS, take a creampie and CIM from the foreigner, but in Suwon she wouldn't have looked my way.
So maybe the stuck-ups at 588 might lighten up once they realize they aren't the salt of the earth, and that earning cash is more important than some misplaced pride. Time will tell.
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$300 SEA escorts
Are people in Seoul really paying South East Asian escorts $300 per shot??
Looking on massage republic and virtually every SEA girl is asking for that.
For that kind of money, you can book a weekend flight to most SEA countries and have an overnight threesome!
Two of the girls advertising were offering lower rates last year, one was even willing to do 2 shots for 240 k won. What the heck is going on in the Seoul indie scene?
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Ree Don you Lus
I'm not paying $300 usd. No way no how. Maybe, maybe at the most $150 but that's my limit!
[QUOTE=RainMania;1897221]Are people in Seoul really paying South East Asian escorts $300 per shot??
Looking on massage republic and virtually every SEA girl is asking for that.
For that kind of money, you can book a weekend flight to most SEA countries and have an overnight threesome!
Two of the girls advertising were offering lower rates last year, one was even willing to do 2 shots for 240 k won. What the heck is going on in the Seoul indie scene?[/QUOTE]
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Bpage Thai escort
I decided I would try out one of the SE Asian escorts advertising on Bpage. Unlike the 300 k per hour ladies as mentioned below, this is a bit different. A person using the same email address advertises a different girl or girls each week or 2. They stay at the Hamilton Hotel in Itaewon, and receive incalls. Outcalls available at higher rates.
The girl I met goes by the name of Areeya. Short, a little chubby, with an amazing the-rack. Tattoo of a dreamcatcher on her upper back. Face is cute but nothing to win a beauty pageant with. Luckily she has a nice smile and uses it often. She told me she was 25. It seemed feasible.
Rates are 150 k for 1 hour, or 200 k for 2 hours 2 pops. Obviously the latter is the better deal. And compared to RLD rates of 70 k for 20 minutes is actually quite good. Anal available for 100 k extra.
She's a nice girl, friendly and vivacious. Starts off with a shower then to the bedroom, ends with a shower if desired. Treat her nicely and she's an enthusiastic spinner. All in all, I left feeling very satisfied.
Face: 6/10.
Body: 9/10 if you like big boobies, a little puppy fat and don't mind body art.
Attitude & GFE: 10/10.
Treat her nice, fellow mongers. She'll be here anywhere between 2 weeks and a month before she goes back to Thai. I'm happy with the agency's service, and might treat myself to further 2-hour visit with the next girl that is sent to Seoul by the same boss. The last ones looked good too judging by the photos. Note: some of the previous girls have been higher rates though. 200 k for 1 hour, and presumably 250 for 2 hours 2 pops. 300 k for a threesome was offered but I didn't go for it.
Question: Does anyone know a threesome rate for 1 hour better than 300 k anywhere in Korea?
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Good report
[QUOTE=JookMeUp;1897370]I decided I would try out one of the SE Asian escorts advertising on Bpage. Unlike the 300 k per hour ladies as mentioned below, this is a bit different. A person using the same email address advertises a different girl or girls each week or 2. They stay at the Hamilton Hotel in Itaewon, and receive incalls. Outcalls available at higher rates.
The girl I met goes by the name of Areeya. Short, a little chubby, with an amazing the-rack. Tattoo of a dreamcatcher on her upper back. Face is cute but nothing to win a beauty pageant with. Luckily she has a nice smile and uses it often. She told me she was 25. It seemed feasible.
Rates are 150 k for 1 hour, or 200 k for 2 hours 2 pops. Obviously the latter is the better deal. And compared to RLD rates of 70 k for 20 minutes is actually quite good. Anal available for 100 k extra.
She's a nice girl, friendly and vivacious. Starts off with a shower then to the bedroom, ends with a shower if desired. Treat her nicely and she's an enthusiastic spinner. All in all, I left feeling very satisfied.
Face: 6/10.
Body: 9/10 if you like big boobies, a little puppy fat and don't mind body art.
Attitude & GFE: 10/10.
Treat her nice, fellow mongers. She'll be here anywhere between 2 weeks and a month before she goes back to Thai. I'm happy with the agency's service, and might treat myself to further 2-hour visit with the next girl that is sent to Seoul by the same boss. The last ones looked good too judging by the photos. Note: some of the previous girls have been higher rates though. 200 k for 1 hour, and presumably 250 for 2 hours 2 pops. 300 k for a threesome was offered but I didn't go for it.
Question: Does anyone know a threesome rate for 1 hour better than 300 k anywhere in Korea?[/QUOTE]Good report.
Her pictures on BP look very inviting.
If she's still around in 2 weeks, I'm tempted to give her a try.
Was it BBBJ / CFS? Or did you manage to score BBFS?
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Speaking of Agencies. Anyone tired that Bohemian Escort that was posted awhile back?
Seemed to be a catered to foreignors as its modeled after US kgirl agencies. Beside that one guy who originally posted anyone else has any experience? Might try it but 300,000 won its little steep. Was wondering if worth it. Is BBFS offered? Or at least CIM and rimming?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=JookMeUp;1897370]I decided I would try out one of the SE Asian escorts advertising on Bpage. Unlike the 300 k per hour ladies as mentioned below, this is a bit different. A person using the same email address advertises a different girl or girls each week or 2. They stay at the Hamilton Hotel in Itaewon, and receive incalls. Outcalls available at higher rates.
The girl I met goes by the name of Areeya. Short, a little chubby, with an amazing the-rack. Tattoo of a dreamcatcher on her upper back. Face is cute but nothing to win a beauty pageant with. Luckily she has a nice smile and uses it often. She told me she was 25. It seemed feasible.
Rates are 150 k for 1 hour, or 200 k for 2 hours 2 pops. Obviously the latter is the better deal. And compared to RLD rates of 70 k for 20 minutes is actually quite good. Anal available for 100 k extra.
She's a nice girl, friendly and vivacious. Starts off with a shower then to the bedroom, ends with a shower if desired. Treat her nicely and she's an enthusiastic spinner. All in all, I left feeling very satisfied.
Face: 6/10.
Body: 9/10 if you like big boobies, a little puppy fat and don't mind body art.
Attitude & GFE: 10/10.
Treat her nice, fellow mongers. She'll be here anywhere between 2 weeks and a month before she goes back to Thai. I'm happy with the agency's service, and might treat myself to further 2-hour visit with the next girl that is sent to Seoul by the same boss. The last ones looked good too judging by the photos. Note: some of the previous girls have been higher rates though. 200 k for 1 hour, and presumably 250 for 2 hours 2 pops. 300 k for a threesome was offered but I didn't go for it.
Question: Does anyone know a threesome rate for 1 hour better than 300 k anywhere in Korea?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=RainMania;1897595]Good report.
Her pictures on BP look very inviting.
If she's still around in 2 weeks, I'm tempted to give her a try.
Was it BBBJ / CFS? Or did you manage to score BBFS?[/QUOTE]I'm not into BBFS or BBBJ, because I'm all about the hygiene and safety. Frankly I don't understand the obsession of some mongers with BBFS, unless it's the power thrill of actually sending your babymaking seed into some girl's love canal, and letting her deal with the consequences. BBBJ was on offer, but I didn't go for it. CIM wasn't discussed.
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1897665]Seemed to be a catered to foreignors as its modeled after US kgirl agencies. Beside that one guy who originally posted anyone else has any experience? Might try it but 300,000 won its little steep. Was wondering if worth it. Is BBFS offered? Or at least CIM and rimming?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]300 was only for the threesome.
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[QUOTE=JookMeUp;1897710]I'm not into BBFS or BBBJ, because I'm all about the hygiene and safety. Frankly I don't understand the obsession of some mongers with BBFS, unless it's the power thrill of actually sending your babymaking seed into some girl's love canal, and letting her deal with the consequences. BBBJ was on offer, but I didn't go for it. CIM wasn't discussed.[/QUOTE]Just feels better. Simple as that.
Any prostitute, whether they offer BBFS or not, should be on birth control.
I can understand feeling not too enthusiastic about barebacking a filipina due to the country's backwards view on BC, but here in Korea from my experience the women know what's up and take the necessary measures.
This might have been an issue in Korea 30+ years ago, but today even civvie girls are on the pill almost religiously.
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Seoul area
So I've been here in Seoul for about 1 year now an pretty much hit up 588, a bunch of Thai massage places with some pretty good looking Thai girls that are willing to do a little extra. 588 I thought was the best place as I was able to look at the girls and know who I am picking up, they are straight business for sure as a member mentioned. I've met up with a couple Bpage girls as well and actually had a good time with a couple of them. One actually let me make a video which I was very surprised. Have tried a few times after to find girls who are in to that and no luck.
Tried a BJ only spot, somewhere in Gangnam area as well, not too bad, had some fun at a kissing room which I just whipped out my phone and jacked off on the girls face and she let me record it but kinda kept her hair on her face a little (somewhere in Hongdae area).
Was reading some post and was wondering because I haven't heard of it before is officetel. What are those?
Now I'm kinda seeing if I can get any recommendations to some other good places with some thick Korean girls. I'm really not into the really skinny girls, seeing if there is a spot where there are actually thicker girls. When I say thick I don't mean fat.
Well just looking for some new places I haven't tried I guess.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;1897720]Just feels better. Simple as that.
Any prostitute, whether they offer BBFS or not, should be on birth control.
I can understand feeling not too enthusiastic about barebacking a filipina due to the country's backwards view on BC, but here in Korea from my experience the women know what's up and take the necessary measures.
This might have been an issue in Korea 30+ years ago, but today even civvie girls are on the pill almost religiously.[/QUOTE]ID be worried about catching something though.
Especially since I'm fairly sure most korean guys are not required or refuse to wear protection at rlds etc.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1897949]ID be worried about catching something though.
Especially since I'm fairly sure most korean guys are not required or refuse to wear protection at rlds etc.[/QUOTE]That's a risk, I agree. But it's a risk I and a lot of mongerers are willing to take.
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Ambrosia
There is a new girl at Ambrosia. Fucks and sucks like a champ. Really nice body.
I assume she is new as I've never seen her before at any of the other bars. Since I live close I usually walk the hill most weekends regardless of if I am in the mood to screw.
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[QUOTE=YellowNympho81;1897864]Tried a BJ only spot, somewhere in Gangnam area as well, not too bad, had some fun at a kissing room which I just whipped out my phone and jacked off on the girls face and she let me record it but kinda kept her hair on her face a little (somewhere in Hongdae area).
Was reading some post and was wondering because I haven't heard of it before is officetel. What are those?
Now I'm kinda seeing if I can get any recommendations to some other good places with some thick Korean girls. I'm really not into the really skinny girls, seeing if there is a spot where there are actually thicker girls. When I say thick I don't mean fat.
Well just looking for some new places I haven't tried I guess.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Thoughts:
1. Which BJ only spot did you try? Inquiring minds want to know.
2. Officetel is just the term Koreans use for small studio apartments. Many girls operate out of them. They're typically the top tier girls in Korea and mostly off limits to foreigners. You call, make a reservation, and are given the location of the apartment building. You just go and knock on the door, have your fun, and leave. There are a couple of ways to find these that I know of.
3. Thick but not fat. There are some thicker girls on Hooker Hill. I had a really fun (but expensive) night there once that got to the point where I was requesting girls and they were basically making phone calls and delivering them to add to the mix we had going. You might try finding a friendly girl on the Hill and asking--she'll know who's around. I occasionally see a girl who describes herself as thick advertising on CL. I messaged with her, but it didn't come together.
Do you speak Korean?
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588 2nd update.
Man, forget what I said earlier. I have to agree with that one dude. 588 is going down fast.
This last week so many of the houses were closed. And I saw alot of girls go home early around 1130 pm because of no business. I asked the girls I banged and they said business is really really slow.
Which explains the quality of the girls. Pretty shitty. I used to see some beauties and young ones. There was this one college age girl so cute. Anyway almost all are gone. No doubt due to slow business they moved on to anmas, officetels etc. Now theres like maybe 3 hotties and rest of 588 are all old and tired out looking milfs. And service is getting shittier and shitter. First no BBFS, now no DFK, no rimming, and not even CIM anymore. I saw 3 new girlst this week and all turned me down again for BBFS and even CIM! Wtf!?
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New escort review in Seoul
I have been lurking around this website for quite sometime now.
They are true reviews and feedback and comments from real people.
Escort services are one of the most luxurious service Seoul has to offer to tourist.
I have been to many escort but this one was very new, many of you yet to experience.
Unfortunately it only does outcall, I found out about it thru Korean friend of mine.
Then it was early evening I picked up the phone to call them.
Pricing was 270,000 krw 1 HR, 500,000 2 HR.
I did 1 HR, rules were ordinary like other.
She came in to my hotel room, first did BJ without protection.
Then I moved to 69, doggy and cow girl.
She was moaner, boob size were only be but very petite to my taste.
I did COB afterward which was not bad for new face.
Most of them were college girls doing side job over vacation.
I rate 8 out of 10 including friendly guy who arranged time to fit my need.
His name is Joe, I still remember it.
I'll review other escort next time.
[URL]http://sevenescort.wix.com/sevenescort[/URL]
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[QUOTE=YumiKim0987;1899272]I have been lurking around this website for quite sometime now.
They are true reviews and feedback and comments from real people.
Escort services are one of the most luxurious service Seoul has to offer to tourist.
I have been to many escort but this one was very new, many of you yet to experience.
Unfortunately it only does outcall, I found out about it thru Korean friend of mine.
Then it was early evening I picked up the phone to call them.
Pricing was 270,000 krw 1 HR, 500,000 2 HR.
I did 1 HR, rules were ordinary like other.
She came in to my hotel room, first did BJ without protection.
Then I moved to 69, doggy and cow girl.
She was moaner, boob size were only be but very petite to my taste.
I did COB afterward which was not bad for new face.
Most of them were college girls doing side job over vacation.
I rate 8 out of 10 including friendly guy who arranged time to fit my need.
His name is Joe, I still remember it.
I'll review other escort next time.
[URL]http://sevenescort.wix.com/sevenescort[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for advertising your business, but we prefer services where 270 k won gets 2-3 hrs, especially since we cannot guarantee the quality and service of the girls you are offering.
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1856700]Theres 2 anmas and 1 love hotel that operates as a half salon. (sing with a chick and then bang her at the said love hotel).
1 anma on the same side of the street as the ritz carlton but fair walk as its between Gangnam station and Yeoksam.
1 anam and the 1 love hotel across the street from the Ritz heading toward Gangnam station and before Yeaksam.[/QUOTE]Hi,
Any more info on the love hotel? Is it foreigner friendly, and how will I find it?
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[QUOTE=RainMania;1899513]Thanks for advertising your business, but we prefer services where 270 k won gets 2-3 hrs, especially since we cannot guarantee the quality and service of the girls you are offering.[/QUOTE]Haha nice one rainmania whoever is paying almost 300 an hour needs to get their head checked. Especially girls who are mechanical and are clockwatchers.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1900295]Haha nice one rainmania whoever is paying almost 300 an hour needs to get their head checked. Especially girls who are mechanical and are clockwatchers.[/QUOTE]Thanks man.
What people don't realize is agencies have played a major role in ruining the indie scene.
The average indie used to charge 150-180 k per hour just 3 years ago. All that money would go to her. An agency girl gets 90-110 k out of the 250-300 k the agency charges.
When an indie sees that this agency is charging 250 k plus, she thinks to herself "why can't I charge that too". She ups her prices, and this snowballs to other indies.
I get that agency managers want to make their money too, but why should I pay all that money for one over-worked clock watcher when I can use the same amount to get 3-4 different girls from a RLD.
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Ambrosia
[QUOTE=PegInThePoke;1898783]There is a new girl at Ambrosia. Fucks and sucks like a champ. Really nice body.
I assume she is new as I've never seen her before at any of the other bars. Since I live close I usually walk the hill most weekends regardless of if I am in the mood to screw.[/QUOTE]Do you know her name? Also as you visit the Hill regularly do you happen to know whether Bean is still around?
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Looking to do a sex tour?
If anyone is planning on traveling in the future with mongering in mind, I highly recommend Hong Kong. You can see my reports. Prostitution is legal there and generally cheap. You can find sex for as little as 35,000-40,000 won. And that will generally have shower and better service than the 70,000 RLD in Seoul. For 70,000 you can get pretty amazing service for 45 minutes. Check out my reports and feel free to ask me. I can try to answer.
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Travelling to Seoul
Hello all!
Going to be in Seoul all of next week for business. Wondering if any of you could provide links to legit BP girls or agencies? I've gone through pages and pages but can't really find links, most items are references to RLD and I wouldn't want to try and even try to travel to one considering this is my first time in Seoul.
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Location of Jinju massage
[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1837741]Personally never been but Belle and Cool are pure BJ places from what everyone has told me. If you want really good massage with handjob and prostate massage ending with a nice CIM BJ with a cutie then hit Jinju massage. Love the place.
As for Anma's I would add.
-Eve (famous for 2 and 3 girl events. Personally I do the 2 girl event. You get 20 mins with first girl which gets that inital blow out of the way. I usually end it with a nice CIM (but you might not get it. Half the time the girl said no to me but I speak korean so was able to persuade her) then spend 40 mins with second girl which is pretty fun since after you get the initial blow out of the way you can bang pretty hard and last for awhile really get your time worth.
-Hera-similiar to Fish wise.[/QUOTE]Hi,
Could you point me in the direction of Jinju massage.
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Recommendations
Hey guys, I'll be back in Seoul for the second time and looking for some play on Sunday evening. I went to Fish Anma last time and had a great time. Posted my review. I'm Chinese-American but speak only English (although I haven't found that to be a problem in most countries).
Think I'll probably try Hooker Hill, since I missed it last time. What's the best time to go. Late afternoon vs. Early evening? Also curious about 588, but not sure about directions. Can't search 3-digit key words on the site.
I will be at the JW Marriott Hotel. Any play places nearby for me to try? Maybe working girls in bars?
Thanks for your suggestions. Are.
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Hill Report
I was in Seoul on business for a few days and wanted to have some fun so I headed up to the Hill a couple of nights. First night was a weekday and as I know my Hill ATF Kay only works weekends I figured I'd try for a repeat of a great GFE session I'd had with Bean from Deja Vu a few months ago. What a disappointment this time. Anything but GFE. First, things started off badly with her asking for 150 k and pouting when I told her I would only pay 100 k. I should have walked then. Next, when we got undressed she was clearly just wanting to get things over with. Whereas last time there had been a lot of DFK, this time she turned her head away when I went to kiss her. CBJ rather then the awesome BBBJ she'd given me last time. No DATY (last time we'd done a nice 69, which she'd seemed really into) and when it came time to do the deed she started asking after less then five minutes "why you not come yet?" This in contrast to last time when I'd pounded her in multiple positions for a good twenty minutes with nary a complaint. Oh well, I guess she's a YMMV gal.
Next night I went up to Happy Days looking for Kay but was told that she'd messaged them to say she wasn't coming to Seoul this weekend. Major bummer. I was about to leave (I wasn't in the mood for Cherry (the BBW with the humongous boobs) and was about to leave when Cindy, Kay's replacement for the weekend) came out of the back. Nice spinner body and reasonably nice face. I decided to give her a try. Turned about to be enjoyable. Not up to Kay's standard, but more than acceptable. No kissing but nice CBJ, DATY (which she was clearly into) and a good 30 minutes of FS that included CG, mish, a little bit of standing ride and then finish in mush with her feet on my shoulders. Fun time that largely made up for the disappointment of the week before.
She told me that she usually works week days only but was there on the weekend since Kay was off.
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[QUOTE=LonelyAlone215;1902012]Hi,
Could you point me in the direction of Jinju massage.[/QUOTE]Walk from Sinnonhyeon Station toward the Best Western. You will pass 7-11 and CU on your left. Take a left on the next side street and the front door is immediately to your left. It's clearly marked.
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How to find Officetel?
[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1898796]Interesting. Thoughts:
1. Which BJ only spot did you try? Inquiring minds want to know.
2. Officetel is just the term Koreans use for small studio apartments. Many girls operate out of them. They're typically the top tier girls in Korea and mostly off limits to foreigners. You call, make a reservation, and are given the location of the apartment building. You just go and knock on the door, have your fun, and leave. There are a couple of ways to find these that I know of.
3. Thick but not fat. There are some thicker girls on Hooker Hill. I had a really fun (but expensive) night there once that got to the point where I was requesting girls and they were basically making phone calls and delivering them to add to the mix we had going. You might try finding a friendly girl on the Hill and asking--she'll know who's around. I occasionally see a girl who describes herself as thick advertising on CL. I messaged with her, but it didn't come together.
Do you speak Korean?[/QUOTE]You mentioned that you know a couple ways to find Officetels. What are they?
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Why are you giving locations to someone with no post history? some common sense here.
Not sure what Korea local LE scene but its pretty dumb giving exact locations to some member with no history on this board. Don't matter if someone posted before then let the guy look for it. Giving out exact locations just cause trouble. If US is the case then Korea can't be that much different.
[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1902322]Walk from Sinnonhyeon Station toward the Best Western. You will pass 7-11 and CU on your left. Take a left on the next side street and the front door is immediately to your left. It's clearly marked.[/QUOTE]
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Sommy BP
Hello everyone,
I stumbled onto this site. I'm new to Seoul after spending time in Dallas and noticed that the scene here is totally different. I recently checked out the BP here and saw one ad that peaked my interest. The lady goes by the name Sommy and I wanted to see in anyone had any info on her before I make that dive.
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Miari on Sunday nights
Hey, does Miari close down on Sunday nights? I went there after my Hooker Hill jaunt last night, at about 10:30 pm. Easy to find, just outside to the right at Exit 10 at Gireum station, through the braided curtain. But it was totally dead. Nothing open (pretty eerie, actually) except for two old ladies sitting in doors just past the entrance. Only 1 was beckoning me in, and there was only 1 girl there. Kinda thick and not to my liking, so I left. Didn't see anything on the forum about Miari being so dead on Sunday evenings, but there you go.
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Hooker Hill report. Suzy
Visited the Hill last night about 8:30 pm. Easy to find with the various instructions here on the board. Lots of people wandering about for the club scene (including some pretty girls). Went up the street on the first left, but there were only 5-6 girls available at the various shops. Only one was my type - young, petite, slim, decent sized tits - so I thought I'd try Suzy at Eve. She was friendly, cute, with good English and nice natural B-sized tits and just a hint of baby fat. I guess it was reasonable service for the Hill, decent BBBJ, cycled through CFS in different positions (notable was doggie), some nice but fake moaning throughout. She said she did CIM, but in the end was mostly by hand and never made it into her mouth. Still pretty good, some cleanup after and chit-chat, and all done within 25 min. She wasn't too much of a clock watcher, but not GFE (no kissing) and BBFS was off the table. Still, a nice RLD-type romp. 100 K the damage (10 K beer, 20 K for lady drinks). F 7. 5, be 7. 5, A 8, S 8.
Pretty spoiled with good office-tel-like experiences with very pretty K-girls in Vancouver that are true GFE, so the RLD girls pale in comparison. Will likely try anma tomorrow, as that type of experience not available at home.
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Miari group
Went to Miari with 2 friends. My friend orders 3 girls for us, staying there for a couple of hours. We stay in the Noraebang, drinking beer and we can do FS with the girls for the whole time (covered). After time is over, we each go to separate rooms with our girl for final round of banging. Total damage: 1,200 K. I know, kinda expensive. We could choose the girls. GFE: 8. Looks: 8.
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[QUOTE=SfMogul;1902342]You mentioned that you know a couple ways to find Officetels. What are they?[/QUOTE]Send me a PM.
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[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1898796]Interesting. Thoughts:
1. Which BJ only spot did you try? Inquiring minds want to know.
2. Officetel is just the term Koreans use for small studio apartments. Many girls operate out of them. They're typically the top tier girls in Korea and mostly off limits to foreigners. You call, make a reservation, and are given the location of the apartment building. You just go and knock on the door, have your fun, and leave. There are a couple of ways to find these that I know of.
3. Thick but not fat. There are some thicker girls on Hooker Hill. I had a really fun (but expensive) night there once that got to the point where I was requesting girls and they were basically making phone calls and delivering them to add to the mix we had going. You might try finding a friendly girl on the Hill and asking--she'll know who's around. I occasionally see a girl who describes herself as thick advertising on CL. I messaged with her, but it didn't come together.
Do you speak Korean?[/QUOTE]I've only tried the one BJ spot, that was a way back, let me see if I can remember. It was out of exit 5 out of gingham station walk about 3 blocks its in the same building as Mcdonalds I think. You should see a barber pole there out front. Just go down the stairs. The place is covered in pink, looks like a beauty salon place. But you go in and its maintained by a young man, he'll ask if you want A or be course, its pretty much topless or not. I've hit the spot twice and gotten the same girl every time.
I've hit up an anma spot just right outside the gangnam-gu station couple times as well, that place was alright but girl wasn't all that great maybe a 6 or 7 on looks, but skills were pretty good, not much to chose from though, not sure what the name of that place is though.
I hit up Eve and there was only two girls working so that's what I ended up getting, 30 mins with each girl, banged the first girl and got a BBBJ in the shower for the last 30 mins. All in all the service was pretty good.
Then I tried Fish Anma which I thought was the best Anma I have been too. You go in pay, go to a lounge hangout and the lady downstairs will ask you what type of girl you want. I also like the thicker girls, I told here I wanted one that wasn't to skinny and too fat. She had one for me but wasn't quite the girl I wanted when I got to the room, but oh well it was a good time though, any ways before seeing my girl. As I was waiting after getting my pick, I was told to go up the elevator, as soon as I got off, I was taken to a bench by a woman wearing lingerie and a mask who sat me down on the bench and proceeded to give me a BBBJ and put on the cover to give me a quick ride. After about 5 mins of warming me up she then took me to my room. Had my normal fun in the room with my girl.
I've had some fun with couple girls on BP and massage republic. I've had fun on both sites but I guess from reading this thread I paid too much.
Well below is a video of me having fun with a girl from BP, her name was Jace, I have tried to get in touch with her again but nothing. She does still post on BP, the pics I don't think are her though.
As for your answer about being able to speak Korea, I do speak a little, just enough to get by but I'm also Asian american and because of that I can pass for Korean american.
[URL]http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph574e9595311ed[/URL]
[URL]http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph574e94b7c7d12[/URL]
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[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1898796]Interesting. Thoughts:
1. Which BJ only spot did you try? Inquiring minds want to know.
2. Officetel is just the term Koreans use for small studio apartments. Many girls operate out of them. They're typically the top tier girls in Korea and mostly off limits to foreigners. You call, make a reservation, and are given the location of the apartment building. You just go and knock on the door, have your fun, and leave. There are a couple of ways to find these that I know of.
3. Thick but not fat. There are some thicker girls on Hooker Hill. I had a really fun (but expensive) night there once that got to the point where I was requesting girls and they were basically making phone calls and delivering them to add to the mix we had going. You might try finding a friendly girl on the Hill and asking--she'll know who's around. I occasionally see a girl who describes herself as thick advertising on CL. I messaged with her, but it didn't come together.
Do you speak Korean?[/QUOTE]I do speak a little Korean, just enough to get by.
I usually get by cause of me being Asian American.
The BJ spot is over in gangnam out of exit 5, walk for about 3 blocks till you hit the McDonalds you'll see the barber pole, take the stairs from the outside and when you get down stairs there will be a covered shop all in pink. That is the spot you're looking for.
Here below is a video that a BP girl let me take during our time together. I'm looking to do more videos of my escapades here in Korea while I can.
[URL]http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph574e94b7c7d12[/URL]
[URL]http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph574e9595311ed[/URL]
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Ambrosia response
[QUOTE=Lion55;1900771]Do you know her name? Also as you visit the Hill regularly do you happen to know whether Bean is still around?[/QUOTE]I never got her name, but pretty hard to miss. Ambrosia rarely has more than one girl in there at a time (sometimes on the weekend two) because of the older Mamsan that lounges on the couch while you fuck. Chances are she will be the only one in there, as they pretty much just keep the same girl going each night, with some minimal rotation.
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How in the world did you convince her to allow you to take a video?
Can't believe she actually let some stranger take video of her working as a prostitute and take a chance you might actually upload in the internet. I mean she either is stupid or she actually doesn't care if the world see her. And possibly if ever arrested this is evidence.
what was her rate? and any link to her BP ad? might see her myself!
[QUOTE=YellowNympho81;1903253]I do speak a little Korean, just enough to get by.
I usually get by cause of me being Asian American.
The BJ spot is over in gangnam out of exit 5, walk for about 3 blocks till you hit the McDonalds you'll see the barber pole, take the stairs from the outside and when you get down stairs there will be a covered shop all in pink. That is the spot you're looking for.
Here below is a video that a BP girl let me take during our time together. I'm looking to do more videos of my escapades here in Korea while I can.
[URL]http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph574e94b7c7d12[/URL]
[URL]http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph574e9595311ed[/URL][/QUOTE]
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Good reports, but at least blur the girl's face dude, especially with the bright lighting.
This is the kind of shit that brings unwanted attention to the forum.
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Cool. Gangnam
So I am a first time poster on this site after many years of use, figured it was about time I pitched in.
I visited Cool recently after reading about it here and there, always mixed reviews. Knowing I was going to get hit for 150,000, I took the venture anyways.
It was around 7 or 8 pm on a weekday, I was greeted at the door by a younger Korean guy, asked me if I spoke Korean. I responded with, no. He proceeded to show me 150,000 written on a torn sheet of paper. I reluctantly counted out the bills and placed them in his hand. He then explained to me that the first hour would be the massage by a "professional" and the last 15 minutes would be spent with a young attractive girl.
After ditching my shoes for a pair of slippers, he directed me to my room and pointed out the shower area. He told me to pick the phone up that was located next to the door when I was finished with my shower and ready to start. My first impression of the place was that it was cleaner than expected (compared to Belles nearly across the street). The shower area was also acceptable. Once back in my room I picked up the phone as directed, said nothing as he spoke a couple lines of Korean, than I placed the phone back on the receiver. A few moments later my "professional" massage therapist arrived. As she entered the room, she looked at my face then responded with "Hello", noticeably with a western accent. I actively responded in Korean with same, placed my head down on the table and let her get to work. She appeared to be in decent physical shape, was average looking for her age. Her massage progressed with great technique. About half way through we had our next exchange of words. She initiated by asking me where I was from. I again, in Korean, responded with "Mi-Gok". The lack of Asian accent intrigued me enough to ask where she learned to speak English (I normally like to avoid conversation and just relax during a good massage). She anxiously explained to me that Australia was home for many years. We continued chatting for the rest of our time. Her name was Dok or something similar, 43 years of age I believe. The last 5 minutes, she flipped me over and gave a great groin massage. I found her attractive and wouldn't have minded finishing the session with her.
Once the groin massage had accomplished its mission, she picked the phone up and signaled for my desert. In walks this young girl (Dok leaves at this time), 20 - 22 years old, pretty face, amazing body, firm perky breast, soft skin. She drops her clothes on the floor (leaves panties on), then moves to the position Dok just left, between my legs at the end of the table. She has this cute smile on her face right before she takes my hard cock and begins to swallow it for one of the best BBBJ I have ever had. As I got close to release, I prepared for her to transition to a hand job as has been the majority of my experiences at other locations in the past. This did not happen, she took all of it in her mouth and continued to stroke for another 10 - 15 seconds after I released. She then very carefully removed my cock from her lips and used a small paper cup to deposit my load. All smiles and laughs, she got dressed, in broken English asked if I was going to take a shower, then left. I showered off again, put my clothes back on, then headed for the door. As I was walking down the hallway, Dok passed. With a pleasant smile, told me she would see me next time.
Again the damage was 150,000, nearly twice that of what was being charged elsewhere. However, I did not regret the visit as I have in the past at other establishments that charge that price with similar service (Jin Ju Spa as an example).
Would I go back? Sure, in a few months, just to treat myself to a little better quality.
I hope I can continue to share my experiences and pick up a little knowledge along the way.
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I visited JinJu once a few months back. Never got the prostate massage experience, went looking. The girl who finished me up was in a rush and reeked of smoke. Left me with a bad experience.
I have been trying to find the prostate experience for a some time, no luck. The closest I have came was this place in Jongno near a Burger King, there was a Chicago pizza in the same building, this was on the 6th floor. I had read about it from a much older post and decided to give it a try. The first two time I went it was closed. The third time they were open. The price quoted to me was 100,000. I had built up my anticipation by now and decided to accept the price. Prostate massage lasted for about 5 seconds. Recommend everyone to avoid.
Any suggestions on where I can get a better experience?
[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1837741]Personally never been but Belle and Cool are pure BJ places from what everyone has told me. If you want really good massage with handjob and prostate massage ending with a nice CIM BJ with a cutie then hit Jinju massage. Love the place.
As for Anma's I would add.
-Eve (famous for 2 and 3 girl events. Personally I do the 2 girl event. You get 20 mins with first girl which gets that inital blow out of the way. I usually end it with a nice CIM (but you might not get it. Half the time the girl said no to me but I speak korean so was able to persuade her) then spend 40 mins with second girl which is pretty fun since after you get the initial blow out of the way you can bang pretty hard and last for awhile really get your time worth.
-Hera-similiar to Fish wise.[/QUOTE]
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I don't get the guys on this site. Seems to think Korea has no LE for prostitution.
Giving out locations. Showing faces of the girls etc. Do they think they Korea LE are stupid or something? Just because they don't bust often doesn't mean they don't or monitor this site. They do have raids and stings on occasions just to keep things in line.
[QUOTE=RainMania;1903762]Good reports, but at least blur the girl's face dude, especially with the bright lighting.
This is the kind of shit that brings unwanted attention to the forum.[/QUOTE]
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Never been to cool or belle. But always heard both were 70,000 BJ only places.
From your experience looks like Cool became like Jinju. Offer legit massage with CIM BJ. But for 150,000 seems to Hi compared to same service at Jinju who charge 130,000. I know 20,000 isn't that much higher but its still 20,000 which means decent dinner after nice CIM BJ stress reliever at Jinju. So Jinju is a better option I think.
[QUOTE=SeoulJip;1904049]So I am a first time poster on this site after many years of use, figured it was about time I pitched in.
I visited Cool recently after reading about it here and there, always mixed reviews. Knowing I was going to get hit for 150,000, I took the venture anyways.
It was around 7 or 8 pm on a weekday, I was greeted at the door by a younger Korean guy, asked me if I spoke Korean. I responded with, no. He proceeded to show me 150,000 written on a torn sheet of paper. I reluctantly counted out the bills and placed them in his hand. He then explained to me that the first hour would be the massage by a "professional" and the last 15 minutes would be spent with a young attractive girl.
After ditching my shoes for a pair of slippers, he directed me to my room and pointed out the shower area. He told me to pick the phone up that was located next to the door when I was finished with my shower and ready to start. My first impression of the place was that it was cleaner than expected (compared to Belles nearly across the street). The shower area was also acceptable. Once back in my room I picked up the phone as directed, said nothing as he spoke a couple lines of Korean, than I placed the phone back on the receiver. A few moments later my "professional" massage therapist arrived. As she entered the room, she looked at my face then responded with "Hello", noticeably with a western accent. I actively responded in Korean with same, placed my head down on the table and let her get to work. She appeared to be in decent physical shape, was average looking for her age. Her massage progressed with great technique. About half way through we had our next exchange of words. She initiated by asking me where I was from. I again, in Korean, responded with "Mi-Gok". The lack of Asian accent intrigued me enough to ask where she learned to speak English (I normally like to avoid conversation and just relax during a good massage). She anxiously explained to me that Australia was home for many years. We continued chatting for the rest of our time. Her name was Dok or something similar, 43 years of age I believe. The last 5 minutes, she flipped me over and gave a great groin massage. I found her attractive and wouldn't have minded finishing the session with her.
Once the groin massage had accomplished its mission, she picked the phone up and signaled for my desert. In walks this young girl (Dok leaves at this time), 20 - 22 years old, pretty face, amazing body, firm perky breast, soft skin. She drops her clothes on the floor (leaves panties on), then moves to the position Dok just left, between my legs at the end of the table. She has this cute smile on her face right before she takes my hard cock and begins to swallow it for one of the best BBBJ I have ever had. As I got close to release, I prepared for her to transition to a hand job as has been the majority of my experiences at other locations in the past. This did not happen, she took all of it in her mouth and continued to stroke for another 10 - 15 seconds after I released. She then very carefully removed my cock from her lips and used a small paper cup to deposit my load. All smiles and laughs, she got dressed, in broken English asked if I was going to take a shower, then left. I showered off again, put my clothes back on, then headed for the door. As I was walking down the hallway, Dok passed. With a pleasant smile, told me she would see me next time.
Again the damage was 150,000, nearly twice that of what was being charged elsewhere. However, I did not regret the visit as I have in the past at other establishments that charge that price with similar service (Jin Ju Spa as an example).
Would I go back? Sure, in a few months, just to treat myself to a little better quality.
I hope I can continue to share my experiences and pick up a little knowledge along the way.[/QUOTE]
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How do I find Officetels?
[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1902907]Send me a PM.[/QUOTE]Just wondering about how to find these as well.
I can't seem to PM you probably because I haven't posted enough, could you PM me instead?
Alternatively, does anyone else know of any officetell gigs that I could try? I tried using one of the Korean sites to discover them in the past, but it was a bit too confusing.
Thanks!
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Anma in Sinchon
I usually post on other forum, but now I'm here. I went to an Anma in Sinchon. Sinchon station, take exit 7.
I went there on a Saturday around 4 pm. Walked in and was quoted 250 K won because they knew that I was a foreigner (Asian, I don't speak Korea). I tried to bargain in order to lower the price, but with no lucky. I asked if they price include 1 or 2 girls and massage. They said 1 hour, 1 girl, and 45 min blind man massage. I was too lazy move to another location and was to try on in Sinchon. A young guy usher me to the 2nd floor and to a room. A young cute girl (23 ish) w / C cup (fake) awaited me in the room. She doesn't speak English at all. As normal with all anma, the standard show with the focus on you man part followed by a cat bath. Then we moved to the bed for more cat bath and the FS. Her CBJ was excellent because she has a strong suction. She wasn't a clock watcher which was good. I finished the service with a blind man massage. The Blind man was truly BLIND (or 80% blind) because his eyes was all crossed and milky white.
Name: forgot.
Age: 23 ish (cute face).
Body: 9/10 with C-Cup.
BBBJ: 9/10 very good suction.
Massage: 9/10 very good cat bath.
Service: 8/10 (she didn't talk much).
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DongHoRo Joong-Gu
Staying in DongHoRo Joong-Gu for 2 weeks.
Is there any information on below items:
1 whr to go shopping.
2 whr to get girls for full night.
Thank you all.
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Huh.
[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1904164]Giving out locations. Showing faces of the girls etc. Do they think they Korea LE are stupid or something? Just because they don't bust often doesn't mean they don't or monitor this site. They do have raids and stings on occasions just to keep things in line.[/QUOTE]LE is everywhere, whether they decide to bust you today, tomorrow, next week, next month. Is up to them like another place isn't going to open up right. I'm pretty sure they know where every spot is at. Isn't that why we are here on this site is to put out info on these places, damn I must be in the wrong forum I guess. Pics of girls faces are posted all over this forum. I want to apologize to the guy, who's future wife's face has been exposed on this forum.
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[QUOTE=YellowNympho81;1905928]LE is everywhere, whether they decide to bust you today, tomorrow, next week, next month. Is up to them like another place isn't going to open up right. I'm pretty sure they know where every spot is at. Isn't that why we are here on this site is to put out info on these places, damn I must be in the wrong forum I guess. Pics of girls faces are posted all over this forum. I want to apologize to the guy, who's future wife's face has been exposed on this forum.[/QUOTE]Did the girl post pictures of her face in her ads? I think not.
The least you can do is respect that, and respect her privacy.
It's because of things like this that local hookers choose not to fuck with foreigners, and also the reason why it's so difficult to get girls to consent to pictures and videos of sessions.
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So because someone did it before you keep doing it?
Recommemding girls ads and general location is one thing but you and others giving specifics just brings unwanted attention and if too much maybe LE will act on it. Theres a reason why agencies screen and girls hide faces to keep their escort life a secret etc. Theres been girls who commit suicide when some creep uplaoding her prostitution session ans their friends snd family found out. Its irresponsible hobbyists who creates problems.
[QUOTE=YellowNympho81;1905928]LE is everywhere, whether they decide to bust you today, tomorrow, next week, next month. Is up to them like another place isn't going to open up right. I'm pretty sure they know where every spot is at. Isn't that why we are here on this site is to put out info on these places, damn I must be in the wrong forum I guess. Pics of girls faces are posted all over this forum. I want to apologize to the guy, who's future wife's face has been exposed on this forum.[/QUOTE]
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Whats unbelieveable to me is what was the girl thinking letting a stranger take pics?
Is she that stupid? What was she thinking that he wasnt going to post it? This one she was totally asking for it. So dumb.
[QUOTE=RainMania;1906123]Did the girl post pictures of her face in her ads? I think not.
The least you can do is respect that, and respect her privacy.
It's because of things like this that local hookers choose not to fuck with foreigners, and also the reason why it's so difficult to get girls to consent to pictures and videos of sessions.[/QUOTE]
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Marian
Went to see Marian advertised in Craigslist and backpage. She is a filipina but currently in Korea right now to be a hooker.
She is absolutely a trash and I do not recommend her to anyone so don't waste your time. Avoid her if you can.
She charges way too much for a Filipino and horrible service.
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[QUOTE=YellowNympho81;1903253]The BJ spot is over in gangnam out of exit 5, walk for about 3 blocks till you hit the McDonalds you'll see the barber pole, take the stairs from the outside and when you get down stairs there will be a covered shop all in pink. That is the spot you're looking for.[/QUOTE]I can confirm that this is no longer operating. I found the store front; the signs are still posted, but the inside is gutted for renovation.
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[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1906447]I can confirm that this is no longer operating. I found the store front; the signs are still posted, but the inside is gutted for renovation.[/QUOTE]That place was really good.
Are there any other similar places that you or anyone else knows and can recommend?
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[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1906447]I can confirm that this is no longer operating. I found the store front; the signs are still posted, but the inside is gutted for renovation.[/QUOTE]Are there any more places of that sort that someone knows? That place was good.
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[QUOTE=Stemgg;1906414]Went to see Marian advertised in Craigslist and backpage. She is a filipina but currently in Korea right now to be a hooker.
She is absolutely a trash and I do not recommend her to anyone so don't waste your time. Avoid her if you can.
She charges way too much for a Filipino and horrible service.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up.
I'm guessing she's one of the 250-300 k per shot girls LOL.
Anything she particularly did that put you off?
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1906413]Is she that stupid? What was she thinking that he wasnt going to post it? This one she was totally asking for it. So dumb.[/QUOTE]Some girls are cool with that, and they usually ask the punter not to post the pics online.
I don't think she was asking for anything. And he shouldn't have posted her face online, unless he's willing to post his face too.
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Cool with what? That the girls don't care if the world knows they are hookers?
Thats news to me. Never heard of a chick wanting everyone to know. LE and family that she gets paid to suck dicks and spread her pussy for thousands of guys' dicks for a living.
And asking some stranger's promise not to post pics online and believing it man. Man I want to see her so I can tell her I promise to pay her later if she let me fuck her for few months free. And as matter of fact I promise her I have no disease and my sperm is dead so she should let me cum in her pussy as much as I want. Cause you know I promise her that I'm safe and trustworthy after meeting her for for 10 mins before I start banging her.
[QUOTE=RainMania;1906750]Some girls are cool with that, and they usually ask the punter not to post the pics online.
I don't think she was asking for anything. And he shouldn't have posted her face online, unless he's willing to post his face too.[/QUOTE]
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I saw her multiple ads and I was curious, but she refused to answer questions about her rates by email. She wanted punters to call or kakao talk with her. So now I am doubly curious:
How much did she charge?
How bad was the service?
I guess that she is about 35, right?
[QUOTE=Stemgg;1906414]Went to see Marian advertised in Craigslist and backpage. She is a filipina but currently in Korea right now to be a hooker.
She is absolutely a trash and I do not recommend her to anyone so don't waste your time. Avoid her if you can.
She charges way too much for a Filipino and horrible service.[/QUOTE]
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Marian
[QUOTE=JookMeUp;1907544]I saw her multiple ads and I was curious, but she refused to answer questions about her rates by email. She wanted punters to call or kakao talk with her. So now I am doubly curious:
How much did she charge?
How bad was the service?
I guess that she is about 35, right?[/QUOTE]250000 an hour and she seems very unprofessional. Did Kakao talk request and she ended up ranting about stuff and then saying Hello, like 5 times when I said I wasn't interested.
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1907207]Thats news to me. Never heard of a chick wanting everyone to know. LE and family that she gets paid to suck dicks and spread her pussy for thousands of guys' dicks for a living.
And asking some stranger's promise not to post pics online and believing it man. Man I want to see her so I can tell her I promise to pay her later if she let me fuck her for few months free. And as matter of fact I promise her I have no disease and my sperm is dead so she should let me cum in her pussy as much as I want. Cause you know I promise her that I'm safe and trustworthy after meeting her for for 10 mins before I start banging her.[/QUOTE]Just like some punters are cool with giving hookers their personal contact details (kakao ID, phone number, email address etc), which can be passed on to LE if she gets busted.
At the end of the day, there is a mutual respect, no matter how small, between a hooker and a punter especially when she allows him to record a session.
Simple advice is to not take the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and upload images that would compromise the girl's privacy.
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Your scenario makes sense if the customer was a long time regular
With the girl so trust is earned. But not the dumb move here by the girl where she meets some stranger for the first time and idiotically lets him film her.
Sucking his dick and fucking him for money with view of her face. She's plain stupid. If she ever gets busted or outed its no one to blame but herself. The guy.
Was a douche for posting her face but the girl was the real problem here for allowing him a total stranger to film her.
Korean guys are the worst though. Filming hookers are one thing. But alot of scum korean guys film their private moments with their girlfriends and when they break up as revenge uploads their session while blurring their own chicken shit faces. You see it at various websites. Its no wonder korean hookers hate korean male customers.
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1908305]With the girl so trust is earned. But not the dumb move here by the girl where she meets some stranger for the first time and idiotically lets him film her.
Sucking his dick and fucking him for money with view of her face. She's plain stupid. If she ever gets busted or outed its no one to blame but herself. The guy.
Was a douche for posting her face but the girl was the real problem here for allowing him a total stranger to film her.
Korean guys are the worst though. Filming hookers are one thing. But alot of scum korean guys film their private moments with their girlfriends and when they break up as revenge uploads their session while blurring their own chicken shit faces. You see it at various websites. Its no wonder korean hookers hate korean male customers.[/QUOTE]They hate male korean customers? I think its the other way around. Most act like we got the pkague yet theyd happily suck and fuck some dirty old smoke and garlic smelling "no offense" taxi driver. Weird.
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What does liking have to do with banging the guy for money? Does any hooker love us?
Or even like us? Thats news to be. Were all business and maybe some affection later.
Kgirls don't like korean men but that's where the money since they are working in Korea. Vs if trying to cater to foreign guys it might turn off the korean guys which means loss of income. So the kgirls dump foreignors to the curve even though korean guys are a pain in the ass. Always demanding BBFS and trying to force shit. Etc.
[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1908412]They hate male korean customers? I think its the other way around. Most act like we got the pkague yet theyd happily suck and fuck some dirty old smoke and garlic smelling "no offense" taxi driver. Weird.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1908775]Or even like us? Thats news to be. Were all business and maybe some affection later.
Kgirls don't like korean men but that's where the money since they are working in Korea. Vs if trying to cater to foreign guys it might turn off the korean guys which means loss of income. So the kgirls dump foreignors to the curve even though korean guys are a pain in the ass. Always demanding BBFS and trying to force shit. Etc.[/QUOTE]You're the one who said they hate korean guys first, not me. I I never said they need to like or love us but at least give us the time of day since our money is just as good as koreans.
And turning off korean guys are not the one and only reason they "dump us to the curve". Many think we carry diseases, have too big dicks etc. Like I said. Most ignore us like the plague.
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Virtually every girl I've conversed with on the topic has said they dislike local mongerers, even RLD girls.
I don't know if it's ego stroking (maybe they tell Korean punters they hate foreigners LOL). But I've heard my fair share of abuse stories and stories of aggressive local mongerers.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;1908915]Virtually every girl I've conversed with on the topic has said they dislike local mongerers, even RLD girls.
I don't know if it's ego stroking (maybe they tell Korean punters they hate foreigners LOL). But I've heard my fair share of abuse stories and stories of aggressive local mongerers.[/QUOTE]No doubt they deal with a lot of abuse from korean guys which makes it all the stranger that many still have attitude problems against non koreans.
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A night out in Seoul
I was in Seoul last week for a business conference. Stayed at the Marriott Executive Apartments at Yeouido Park. A bit far from the heart of the city. After being engaged in meetings and official cocktails and dinners for most nights, I finally got some time off on Thursday evening after the conference ended.
Took a taxi to Myeong-dong and started a slow walk around the Namedaemun Market to take in the sights and smells the wonderful crowded streets had to offer. After an hour of walking around and savoring street bites in abundance, I discovered a tiny little pub named The Flair Bar. A great little place with a load of character. I was the only non-Korean there and I got my whisky on the rocks with no trouble. Roughly $10 a peg, so its not exactly cheap. I sat here nursing my drink near the far window (the smoking area) and my eyes lay on an attractive girl, possibly late twenties or early thirties. She was sitting across the bar in the other far end by herself having a glass of white wine, not looking too happy about her life. She did not notice me as there were lots of people moving around in the central space which also hosted a dart board. The music was 80's pop, terrible.
I really did not expect anything to happen so I kept sipping at my drink and smoked a cigarette. Finished my drink and turned around to see the girl still in her seat. So I called for my second drink. As my drink arrived this attractive girl got up and walked in in my general direction pulling out a pack of cigarettes from her handbag. I smiled to myself. I acted nonchalant and pretended not to notice as she sat 3 seats to my right and lit up her Virginia Slims. Then a minute later I lit up my own and turned, made eye contact and gave her a broad smile. A reciprocation from the other end calmed my nerves a bit. I introduced myself and shared the purpose of my visit to Korea and learnt a bit about the girl in exchange. Got talking about Korea, the city, the culture and other stuff very soon.
I asked her if it was OK for me to join her table and continue our little lesson on Korean culture and she agreed. I offered to buy her drinks which she refused. More drinks, more talk, more cigarettes and the clock ticked over to 11.30 pm. I had to make my move, it was now or never. So I asked her if she would like to join me in my hotel for a few more glasses of wine. She went totally silent. I did not repeat my question. I took her cue and asked for my bill. More awkward silence. As the waiter returned with my bill, the girl said a few words to the waiter in Korean and I was seriously worried now.
The waiter returned 5 minutes later with the bill and when I looked, the bill had the girl's drinks also accounted for in it. I looked at her, totally confused now. And she smiled, took my hand in hers and said "Let us go". It was not a particularly large tab, just under $70 for all the drinks we both had. I stepped out with her, called for a Uber and went back to the hotel with this girl. Back in the room, we got a couple of glasses of white wine and relaxed on the couch. Chatted a bit more and then one thing led to another and soon we were naked and all over each other on the couch. I had to stop for a condom and she wore a puzzled look on her face. Got the rubber on and went to town. Finished up a while later and we lay on the couch frolicking for some more time before we got up to take a shower. She insisted we shower together.
After a shower we simply curled up and slept. Come morning light there was another round after which she showered, got dressed and left. It was 9 am. Perfect. I checked out by 11 am and headed to the airport for my flight. I would rate the girl a 7/10 for her looks. 7/10 for her body. 7/10 for her skills in bed. 8/10 for the GFE. Did not pay her a dime other than the drinks I bought for her at the bar.
Will this happen again? Perhaps not, but the Mongering Gods were kind to me on that night.
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I would believe your story if she was a over 40 cougar.
It happened with me when I was late 20's. Was at a club and visited a friend's table and their were some early 40 MILF lady hot though obvious plastic surgery face and boobs. Had some drinks and then everyone went to the dance floor and I sat alone then the MILF came back sat next to me all whining she's hot and fanning herslef with her hand. So we just sat their and she's yacking to herself about varuous things why we were sitting and I was a little buzzed and I just put my hand on her pussy and started fingering her theough her pants and instead of getting slapped she just sat there taking it while looking at the dance floor. So I told her I want to fuck her and she just smirked and said lets go. So went to motel and fucked. We didn't even use and condom and busted her pussy and she sucked my dick clean. Incredible fuck. Next morning we excahnged numbers and fucked few more times then loss in touch. First and only one night stand for me. If I wasnt buzzed snd she wasnt a horny over 40 MILF I'm pretty sure I would have never had the nerve and / or I would have been slapped. The sexgods were also with me that night.
[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1908962]I was in Seoul last week for a business conference. Stayed at the Marriott Executive Apartments at Yeouido Park. A bit far from the heart of the city. After being engaged in meetings and official cocktails and dinners for most nights, I finally got some time off on Thursday evening after the conference ended.
Took a taxi to Myeong-dong and started a slow walk around the Namedaemun Market to take in the sights and smells the wonderful crowded streets had to offer. After an hour of walking around and savoring street bites in abundance, I discovered a tiny little pub named The Flair Bar. A great little place with a load of character. I was the only non-Korean there and I got my whisky on the rocks with no trouble. Roughly $10 a peg, so its not exactly cheap. I sat here nursing my drink near the far window (the smoking area) and my eyes lay on an attractive girl, possibly late twenties or early thirties. She was sitting across the bar in the other far end by herself having a glass of white wine, not looking too happy about her life. She did not notice me as there were lots of people moving around in the central space which also hosted a dart board. The music was 80's pop, terrible.
I really did not expect anything to happen so I kept sipping at my drink and smoked a cigarette. Finished my drink and turned around to see the girl still in her seat. So I called for my second drink. As my drink arrived this attractive girl got up and walked in in my general direction pulling out a pack of cigarettes from her handbag. I smiled to myself. I acted nonchalant and pretended not to notice as she sat 3 seats to my right and lit up her Virginia Slims. Then a minute later I lit up my own and turned, made eye contact and gave her a broad smile. A reciprocation from the other end calmed my nerves a bit. I introduced myself and shared the purpose of my visit to Korea and learnt a bit about the girl in exchange. Got talking about Korea, the city, the culture and other stuff very soon.
I asked her if it was OK for me to join her table and continue our little lesson on Korean culture and she agreed. I offered to buy her drinks which she refused. More drinks, more talk, more cigarettes and the clock ticked over to 11.30 pm. I had to make my move, it was now or never. So I asked her if she would like to join me in my hotel for a few more glasses of wine. She went totally silent. I did not repeat my question. I took her cue and asked for my bill. More awkward silence. As the waiter returned with my bill, the girl said a few words to the waiter in Korean and I was seriously worried now.
The waiter returned 5 minutes later with the bill and when I looked, the bill had the girl's drinks also accounted for in it. I looked at her, totally confused now. And she smiled, took my hand in hers and said "Let us go". It was not a particularly large tab, just under $70 for all the drinks we both had. I stepped out with her, called for a Uber and went back to the hotel with this girl. Back in the room, we got a couple of glasses of white wine and relaxed on the couch. Chatted a bit more and then one thing led to another and soon we were naked and all over each other on the couch. I had to stop for a condom and she wore a puzzled look on her face. Got the rubber on and went to town. Finished up a while later and we lay on the couch frolicking for some more time before we got up to take a shower. She insisted we shower together.
After a shower we simply curled up and slept. Come morning light there was another round after which she showered, got dressed and left. It was 9 am. Perfect. I checked out by 11 am and headed to the airport for my flight. I would rate the girl a 7/10 for her looks. 7/10 for her body. 7/10 for her skills in bed. 8/10 for the GFE. Did not pay her a dime other than the drinks I bought for her at the bar.
Will this happen again? Perhaps not, but the Mongering Gods were kind to me on that night.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1909038]It happened with me when I was late 20's.
SNIP
If I wasnt buzzed snd she wasnt a horny over 40 MILF I'm pretty sure I would have never had the nerve and / or I would have been slapped. The sexgods were also with me that night.[/QUOTE]Well, I am 40 and she was 33 (as evidenced from her drivers licence which she showed me while narrating a rather interesting story about her reverse parallel parking skills. I have come to believe that such opportunities are all about timing, circumstance, game and luck. A millimeter shift in any of the influencing factors and it could all go horribly wrong.
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Imo
[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1908922]No doubt they deal with a lot of abuse from korean guys which makes it all the stranger that many still have attitude problems against non koreans.[/QUOTE]I have been seeing exclusively Korean working girls here in the US, for the past 10 years or so, and I've learned quite a bit from them. They actually like non-Korean customers. The reason they gave is that we (non-Korean mongers) tend to be nicer to them. Granted, they are leery about big guys, but in general they are pleased with regular types. One time, I asked a girl how to say "you have beautiful eyes" in Korean. Her response was "I don't know, we don't hear that from Korean men".
Now, mongering in Korea (or Japan) is a different story. The men there don't seem too thrilled at seeing their girls hook up with foreigners, and the girls are afraid of losing their regular customers. At least, that has been my observation.
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Gwangju lip cafe / kiss bang
Any ideas how to find the above in Gwangju?
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Any luck with backpage Korean escorts?
I'm new to this site and am trying to get up to speed here. I would appreciate any help or advice you can give. My only experience in Seoul is in 588 about 3 years ago. My recent trip there this year was a disaster. Hardly any chicks there and what was there was so bad I had to pass on all of them. So I decided to check out backpage for my next trip in August. There seems to be quite a lot of ads, but lots of them look familiar. I'm only looking for K-chicks so has anyone tried it? Would you recommend any girls? I contacted Sommy, who someone else mentioned, and she replied with pics, but I wasn't sure if I could trust her.
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If its anything like US. I would not even bother with BPs.
Its buyer beware. Cheap site so most likely low caliber medicore girls.
If you can read korean why not go try officetels or room salons? Safer bet especially room salons since can actually pick your girl.
If can't read korean go try an anma. Fish and Hera are really nice. More like incalls then bath houses. Fish is my personal favorite.
Or try this foreignor friendly escort agency: Bohemian Escorts. I still haven't used it but some guy said its good and the girls at this agency has been getting really positive reviews at this US escort review site Erotic review. Erotic review has been around and legit as it comes. So Bohemian Escorts seems pretty legit.
[QUOTE=Tokyoguy01;1909619]I'm new to this site and am trying to get up to speed here. I would appreciate any help or advice you can give. My only experience in Seoul is in 588 about 3 years ago. My recent trip there this year was a disaster. Hardly any chicks there and what was there was so bad I had to pass on all of them. So I decided to check out backpage for my next trip in August. There seems to be quite a lot of ads, but lots of them look familiar. I'm only looking for K-chicks so has anyone tried it? Would you recommend any girls? I contacted Sommy, who someone else mentioned, and she replied with pics, but I wasn't sure if I could trust her.[/QUOTE]
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Any info on some Anmas in Gangnam?
Had some time and went around Gangnam area and found Anmas in the back street I did not even know existed. Any of you mongers tried the following?:
-gold fish anma.
-special anma.
-superman anma.
-chocolate anma (this one seems foreignor friendly or at least japanese friendly since the sign also said massage anma in japanese).
The names are the real names. Each anmas sign had both english and korean versions.
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Thanks for the reply, dude.
Unfortunately I don't speak any Hangul. And I've been trying to figure out all the codes you guys are using. So I have no idea what an anma is. Do they let Asian Americans in? What's the average price? I checked out Bohemian escorts and there are only four girls listed. The rate is 300,000 for 75 minutes. Seems a bit steep.
[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1909722]Its buyer beware. Cheap site so most likely low caliber medicore girls.
If you can read korean why not go try officetels or room salons? Safer bet especially room salons since can actually pick your girl.
If can't read korean go try an anma. Fish and Hera are really nice. More like incalls then bath houses. Fish is my personal favorite.
Or try this foreignor friendly escort agency: Bohemian Escorts. I still haven't used it but some guy said its good and the girls at this agency has been getting really positive reviews at this US escort review site Erotic review. Erotic review has been around and legit as it comes. So Bohemian Escorts seems pretty legit.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1908962]I was in Seoul last week for a business conference. Stayed at the Marriott Executive Apartments at Yeouido Park. A bit far from the heart of the city. After being engaged in meetings and official cocktails and dinners for most nights, I finally got some time off on Thursday evening after the conference ended.
Took a taxi to Myeong-dong and started a slow walk around the Namedaemun Market to take in the sights and smells the wonderful crowded streets had to offer. After an hour of walking around and savoring street bites in abundance, I discovered a tiny little pub named The Flair Bar. A great little place with a load of character. I was the only non-Korean there and I got my whisky on the rocks with no trouble. Roughly $10 a peg, so its not exactly cheap. I sat here nursing my drink near the far window (the smoking area) and my eyes lay on an attractive girl, possibly late twenties or early thirties. She was sitting across the bar in the other far end by herself having a glass of white wine, not looking too happy about her life. She did not notice me as there were lots of people moving around in the central space which also hosted a dart board. The music was 80's pop, terrible.
I really did not expect anything to happen so I kept sipping at my drink and smoked a cigarette. Finished my drink and turned around to see the girl still in her seat. So I called for my second drink. As my drink arrived this attractive girl got up and walked in in my general direction pulling out a pack of cigarettes from her handbag. I smiled to myself. I acted nonchalant and pretended not to notice as she sat 3 seats to my right and lit up her Virginia Slims. Then a minute later I lit up my own and turned, made eye contact and gave her a broad smile. A reciprocation from the other end calmed my nerves a bit. I introduced myself and shared the purpose of my visit to Korea and learnt a bit about the girl in exchange. Got talking about Korea, the city, the culture and other stuff very soon.
I asked her if it was OK for me to join her table and continue our little lesson on Korean culture and she agreed. I offered to buy her drinks which she refused. More drinks, more talk, more cigarettes and the clock ticked over to 11.30 pm. I had to make my move, it was now or never. So I asked her if she would like to join me in my hotel for a few more glasses of wine. She went totally silent. I did not repeat my question. I took her cue and asked for my bill. More awkward silence. As the waiter returned with my bill, the girl said a few words to the waiter in Korean and I was seriously worried now.
The waiter returned 5 minutes later with the bill and when I looked, the bill had the girl's drinks also accounted for in it. I looked at her, totally confused now. And she smiled, took my hand in hers and said "Let us go". It was not a particularly large tab, just under $70 for all the drinks we both had. I stepped out with her, called for a Uber and went back to the hotel with this girl. Back in the room, we got a couple of glasses of white wine and relaxed on the couch. Chatted a bit more and then one thing led to another and soon we were naked and all over each other on the couch. I had to stop for a condom and she wore a puzzled look on her face. Got the rubber on and went to town. Finished up a while later and we lay on the couch frolicking for some more time before we got up to take a shower. She insisted we shower together.
After a shower we simply curled up and slept. Come morning light there was another round after which she showered, got dressed and left. It was 9 am. Perfect. I checked out by 11 am and headed to the airport for my flight. I would rate the girl a 7/10 for her looks. 7/10 for her body. 7/10 for her skills in bed. 8/10 for the GFE. Did not pay her a dime other than the drinks I bought for her at the bar.
Will this happen again? Perhaps not, but the Mongering Gods were kind to me on that night.[/QUOTE]Great. I am so happy this turned out well for you. Not just the gods. You played the situation perfectly. Well done!
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Sadly, all I used is BP
[QUOTE=TokyoGuy01;1909619]I'm new to this site and am trying to get up to speed here. I would appreciate any help or advice you can give. My only experience in Seoul is in 588 about 3 years ago. My recent trip there this year was a disaster. Hardly any chicks there and what was there was so bad I had to pass on all of them. So I decided to check out backpage for my next trip in August. There seems to be quite a lot of ads, but lots of them look familiar. I'm only looking for K-chicks so has anyone tried it? Would you recommend any girls? I contacted Sommy, who someone else mentioned, and she replied with pics, but I wasn't sure if I could trust her.[/QUOTE]Guess I should stop lurker.
BP is basically 98% all fake images with agency advertising as Indy. I know it's probably better on the wallet to visit anmas or the RLD, but my scared self hasn't gone. However, if this is the Sommy that I' partake with, then you shouldn't worry too about her. She does have an awesome body and witty humor, even though she doesn't speak English. I'm pretty good with broken English.
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Anma's is english translated word for a korean bath house.
Think japanese bath houses. So do nuru gel body slide with their naked bodies and then give you blow job and full sex. The places I mentioned let you cum twice in 1 HR session. After your session they shower you and clean you and help you dress and send you out the door. I personally like this then incalls at apartments which are called "office tels". Damage is 220,000 - 230,000. CIM varies though. Some girls do it and some don't. And I've never recieved bareback at these places. And both Hera and Fish from the posting at this forum seem to allow foreignors. I'm korean american so never had any issues.
As for Bohemian Escort, if the reviews are true. That price is fair to me. 75 mins with for sure hottie for 300,000. Its actually cheaper then US since factoring the exchange rate that Bohemian is factoring your getting 15 more minutes then US for same price and you get to bang them at your home or hotel. Safer then going to some unknown incall.
[QUOTE=TokyoGuy01;1909989]Thanks for the reply, dude.
Unfortunately I don't speak any Hangul. And I've been trying to figure out all the codes you guys are using. So I have no idea what an anma is. Do they let Asian Americans in? What's the average price? I checked out Bohemian escorts and there are only four girls listed. The rate is 300,000 for 75 minutes. Seems a bit steep.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1910250]And both Hera and Fish from the posting at this forum seem to allow foreignors.[/QUOTE]So does Ace.
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[QUOTE=JookMeUp;1897370]I decided I would try out one of the SE Asian escorts advertising on Bpage. Unlike the 300 k per hour ladies as mentioned below, this is a bit different. A person using the same email address advertises a different girl or girls each week or 2. They stay at the Hamilton Hotel in Itaewon, and receive incalls. Outcalls available at higher rates.
The girl I met goes by the name of Areeya. Short, a little chubby, with an amazing the-rack. Tattoo of a dreamcatcher on her upper back. Face is cute but nothing to win a beauty pageant with. Luckily she has a nice smile and uses it often. She told me she was 25. It seemed feasible.
Rates are 150 k for 1 hour, or 200 k for 2 hours 2 pops. Obviously the latter is the better deal. And compared to RLD rates of 70 k for 20 minutes is actually quite good. Anal available for 100 k extra.
She's a nice girl, friendly and vivacious. Starts off with a shower then to the bedroom, ends with a shower if desired...[/QUOTE]I was really disappointed to miss Areeya. Her photos looked amazing. I would love to find a busty SE Asian girl like that. Any word on if she is coming back soon? Or maybe her agency's contact info?
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[QUOTE=Lanewbie;1910985]I was really disappointed to miss Areeya. Her photos looked amazing. I would love to find a busty SE Asian girl like that. Any word on if she is coming back soon? Or maybe her agency's contact info?[/QUOTE]There are two girls advertised by the same agency right now. M*e and and*why. The second one looks busty. Go find the ads on BP, try one or both out. They offer a threesome for 300,000 for an hour. But make sure you report back and share the knowledge. We can't share direct email addresses and phone numbers here, and I don't like to make information too obvious otherwise LE.
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I can't find those! Could you provide search criteria? If you can't I completely understand.
[QUOTE=JookMeUp;1911175]There are two girls advertised by the same agency right now. M*e and and*why. The second one looks busty. Go find the ads on BP, try one or both out. They offer a threesome for 300,000 for an hour. But make sure you report back and share the knowledge. We can't share direct email addresses and phone numbers here, and I don't like to make information too obvious otherwise LE.[/QUOTE]
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Cindy from Bohemian Escorts
I tried to set up an appointment with Cindy, but apparently she no longer works there. Completely disappointed! She by far looked to be the best of what they offered. If anyone comes across her in the future, please report her! I'm in search of a nice, busty Korean that is well reviewed.
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Kiss Room in Hongdae
Avoid at all costs!
Paid $80 for full hour with high expectations.
Got 1 girl for 30 min each. As soon as she comes in she's asks if I want a hand job. I said no and tried to kiss her but she just stared at the ground and didn't say anything. That happened for 30 minutes and then she left. I kept trying to massage her kiss her neck, hiss her lips, etc. She seemed like she was forced to be there so I felt kind of bad for her so didn't' complain.
Next girl came in, she asked if I want a hand job or a blow job. Figured what the fuck and went for blow job. She wanted to charge me $100,000! Talked her down a bit but it was still ridiculous. Of course the other head prevailed. She was OK looking. Horrible BJ, really fast hand and barely put the tip in her mouth. She took the load and spit it in a cup and hurried out of there.
No kissing.
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Hooker Hill
Gave it a try, def a seedy street.
Found a girl near the top on the right (sorry didn't get name of place or girl). Gorgeous body, 10 by any standards, nice fake boobs, soft not hard. But face was so stretched out from plastic surgery she looked like a fucking cat. Anyways, good service, thought she was putting me in bareback but didn't realize she had slipped a condom on me, some amazing trick with her mouth I guess! Slightly rushed, but couldn't help but let a load fly within a few minutes, she was too damn hot!
She asked for $150 I bargained down to 80, it wasn't a busy time of day (around dusk).
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Miari in Gireum empty
Went by around 8 pm, completely empty, only a couple of cats wandering around. Maybe it doesn't get started until later? [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] odor also. Not a fun looking place in my opinion.
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[QUOTE=LaNewbie;1911362]I can't find those! Could you provide search criteria? If you can't I completely understand.[/QUOTE]One of the girls has left in the last 24 hours and there is a new one. A girl whose name is a kind of fruit, the one often used as a euphemism for virginity. The price is always the same. One fifty. So you can search by name now or by price.
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[QUOTE=Finsbury;1911468]Avoid at all costs![/QUOTE]Which place did you go to?
I think kiss bangs are examples of extreme variability in experience depending on lots of factors. I've had nothing but fun experiences in them, though they are a bit. Unusual.
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Hongdae kissbangs are all but ruined for foreigners.
Too many guys tipping girls 50-100 k for a 10 second blowjob followed by a rubbish jack-off. The girls know what's up, instruct newer girls how to game, and the cycle goes on.
You're no longer paying 50 k for an hour of kissing and possibly foreplay. You are now paying 50 k for the house to introduce you to a girl who wants to fleece you for as much as she can, without actually doing much.
Another golden era bites the dust. There are still enclaves of kissbangs around the city, and although I don't visit them that much, I won't be sharing any of them publicly.
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Thanks man! So you recommend this agency? This one doesn't look too bad, might give her a shot. I would love to find a natural busty Thai girl like Areeya though.
[QUOTE=JookMeUp;1911609]One of the girls has left in the last 24 hours and there is a new one. A girl whose name is a kind of fruit, the one often used as a euphemism for virginity. The price is always the same. One fifty. So you can search by name now or by price.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Finsbury;1911474]Went by around 8 pm, completely empty, only a couple of cats wandering around. Maybe it doesn't get started until later? **** odor also. Not a fun looking place in my opinion.[/QUOTE]Years ago I would go to Miari or Cheonho around 8:30-9 pm and there were plenty of girls about. Now, I go around 10:30-11 pm. Problem is, Miari is about 40 minutes away by subway. If I go to Miari later than 11 pm then I risk not being able to take the subway back. (Cheonho is very close to where I'm staying, at least.).
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[QUOTE=Finsbury;1911471]Gave it a try, def a seedy street.
Found a girl near the top on the right (sorry didn't get name of place or girl). Gorgeous body, 10 by any standards, nice fake boobs, soft not hard. But face was so stretched out from plastic surgery she looked like a fucking cat. Anyways, good service, thought she was putting me in bareback but didn't realize she had slipped a condom on me, some amazing trick with her mouth I guess! Slightly rushed, but couldn't help but let a load fly within a few minutes, she was too damn hot!
She asked for $150 I bargained down to 80, it wasn't a busy time of day (around dusk).[/QUOTE]Sounds like Laura, just past Grand Ole Opry on the right. Tried her out a few years back, wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. Expected a real ***** clock watcher, but she was actually ok personality. Super hot body, very tone and tan, fake tits, nice ass. Not very fun since she doesn't DATY. Very mechanical.
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Kgirl service in US vs Korea. Why so much better in US?
Lately I'm getting annoyed by the medicore service and looks I'm getting in Korea for the same price in the US.
Ok I understand the kgirls who decide to work in US get little bit more of the cut like maybe 150 vs 100 in Seoul. But for that 50 extra the same kgirls who don't kiss / bareback / CIM / rim in Korea do all of that and with passion most of the time in US. And the girls are really hot most of the time in US. And are really into it or at least act like it. But here in Korea the girls rarely DFK or rim or CIM lately. And the looks are so medicore these days. And act like robots. Just do not show any enthusiasm or suck you dry.
Is there any reason or just the kgirls who goto the US are the cream of the crop and us guys in Korea just get the leftover be list girls?
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You need good hook up
[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1912750]Lately I'm getting annoyed by the medicore service and looks I'm getting in Korea for the same price in the US.
Ok I understand the kgirls who decide to work in US get little bit more of the cut like maybe 150 vs 100 in Seoul. But for that 50 extra the same kgirls who don't kiss / bareback / CIM / rim in Korea do all of that and with passion most of the time in US. And the girls are really hot most of the time in US. And are really into it or at least act like it. But here in Korea the girls rarely DFK or rim or CIM lately. And the looks are so medicore these days. And act like robots. Just do not show any enthusiasm or suck you dry.
Is there any reason or just the kgirls who goto the US are the cream of the crop and us guys in Korea just get the leftover be list girls?[/QUOTE]Its because you went to wrong place. If you have Korean friend ask them to introduce good place to you. I noticed so much difference when I went to place my Korean friend introduced me to. The service level was so much different from place I went before. So if you know where to go or if your Korean makes connection to you, you will see difference in GFE quality.
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1912750]Lately I'm getting annoyed by the medicore service and looks I'm getting in Korea for the same price in the US.
Ok I understand the kgirls who decide to work in US get little bit more of the cut like maybe 150 vs 100 in Seoul. But for that 50 extra the same kgirls who don't kiss / bareback / CIM / rim in Korea do all of that and with passion most of the time in US. And the girls are really hot most of the time in US. And are really into it or at least act like it. But here in Korea the girls rarely DFK or rim or CIM lately. And the looks are so medicore these days. And act like robots. Just do not show any enthusiasm or suck you dry.
Is there any reason or just the kgirls who goto the US are the cream of the crop and us guys in Korea just get the leftover be list girls?[/QUOTE]It's the other way around. Cream of the drop girls don't need to leave Korea.
The two markets are also very different.
Korean scene. Saturated with girls and mongerers. This is their home turf, the top girls know there will always be a local to sell to.
USA. Nowhere near saturated as Korea, but mongerers have a lot more options. Many K-hookers are either there illegally, or on borrowed time. So the incentive is to make as much cash as possible, while giving more perks than the competition.
Think of the way Korean brands operate in the US vs how they operate in Korea. US customers get higher quality Korean brands at cheaper prices, than customers in Korea.
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1912750]Lately I'm getting annoyed by the medicore service and looks I'm getting in Korea for the same price in the US.
Ok I understand the kgirls who decide to work in US get little bit more of the cut like maybe 150 vs 100 in Seoul. But for that 50 extra the same kgirls who don't kiss / bareback / CIM / rim in Korea do all of that and with passion most of the time in US. And the girls are really hot most of the time in US. And are really into it or at least act like it. But here in Korea the girls rarely DFK or rim or CIM lately. And the looks are so medicore these days. And act like robots. Just do not show any enthusiasm or suck you dry.
Is there any reason or just the kgirls who goto the US are the cream of the crop and us guys in Korea just get the leftover be list girls?[/QUOTE]I noticed in your post history that you speak Korean, correct (and are, in fact, Korean)? You should have no problem accessing the full array of services here. Officetel girls, while of course more expensive, will provide the services you seek. There are also many Korean language resources online that can direct you to more affordable providers who might not be the top 5% of looks like officetel girls, but will still provide your sought after services. Particularly since you speak the language, you have the ability to negotiate those things with either the girl or the person on the phone who books your appointment.
One area I will agree with you on is attitudes. I've actually come to prefer Thai, Filipina, and other girls to K-girls. Too often here I find them not as warm as other places.
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1912750]Lately I'm getting annoyed by the medicore service and looks I'm getting in Korea for the same price in the US.
Ok I understand the kgirls who decide to work in US get little bit more of the cut like maybe 150 vs 100 in Seoul. But for that 50 extra the same kgirls who don't kiss / bareback / CIM / rim in Korea do all of that and with passion most of the time in US. And the girls are really hot most of the time in US. And are really into it or at least act like it. But here in Korea the girls rarely DFK or rim or CIM lately. And the looks are so medicore these days. And act like robots. Just do not show any enthusiasm or suck you dry.
Is there any reason or just the kgirls who goto the US are the cream of the crop and us guys in Korea just get the leftover be list girls?[/QUOTE]I spent a year in Seoul and I'm not sure what places you've been to, but my experience was the exact opposite in terms of looks and service. I have 20 years mongering of in LOS Angeles, so it's not like I'm speaking without a point of reference. I had plenty of (legit) 19 year old girls in Korea but in the states it's not as common. Sure we do get some stateside, but the selection is a lot less.
As for service. That might be debatable. There's been plenty of "robot" type experiences I've had here as well. Most of the girls here follow a script that's told to them by their booker. And yeah, a lot of them here act like they enjoy it. Officetel girls tend to spend a little time talking to you before you get your funk on, but that's part of their "service" as well.
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How much are you paying for this better service? And how did you find them?
Or was it just random ad you found at some korean porn site?
[QUOTE=NotherMonger;1913373]I spent a year in Seoul and I'm not sure what places you've been to, but my experience was the exact opposite in terms of looks and service. I have 20 years mongering of in LOS Angeles, so it's not like I'm speaking without a point of reference. I had plenty of (legit) 19 year old girls in Korea but in the states it's not as common. Sure we do get some stateside, but the selection is a lot less.
As for service. That might be debatable. There's been plenty of "robot" type experiences I've had here as well. Most of the girls here follow a script that's told to them by their booker. And yeah, a lot of them here act like they enjoy it. Officetel girls tend to spend a little time talking to you before you get your funk on, but that's part of their "service" as well.[/QUOTE]
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I guess I've been unlucky and not found a good agency
Will search for more I guess. Unless you recommend anyone?
Also, since you probably found an internet search engine to go around korean firewall. What search software do you recommend?
[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1912839]I noticed in your post history that you speak Korean, correct (and are, in fact, Korean)? You should have no problem accessing the full array of services here. Officetel girls, while of course more expensive, will provide the services you seek. There are also many Korean language resources online that can direct you to more affordable providers who might not be the top 5% of looks like officetel girls, but will still provide your sought after services. Particularly since you speak the language, you have the ability to negotiate those things with either the girl or the person on the phone who books your appointment.
One area I will agree with you on is attitudes. I've actually come to prefer Thai, Filipina, and other girls to K-girls. Too often here I find them not as warm as other places.[/QUOTE]
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Got place you recommend? Or tell me where your favorite place is generally located?
Will try it then. Also, how much were you paying?
[QUOTE=Justemp;1912758]Its because you went to wrong place. If you have Korean friend ask them to introduce good place to you. I noticed so much difference when I went to place my Korean friend introduced me to. The service level was so much different from place I went before. So if you know where to go or if your Korean makes connection to you, you will see difference in GFE quality.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1913704]Will search for more I guess. Unless you recommend anyone?
Also, since you probably found an internet search engine to go around korean firewall. What search software do you recommend?[/QUOTE]Get a VPN. There are websites in Korean where all manner of services advertise themselves. You'll find officetels, lip cafes, anmas, kiss bangs, and all sorts of other variations with a wide variety of prices, services, and locations. Hell, there's even some fetish stuff advertised. These websites are all inaccessible in Korea unless you get a VPN.
Your post title indicates that you're looking for an agency. I can't help you with that as I haven't sampled that offering in Korea (too expensive, too much photoshopping of pictures, I've heard the service is just okay).
You seem like you're a gyopo. How good is your Korean? You should be able to navigate all of this with minimal hassle and minor trial and error.
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1913703]Or was it just random ad you found at some korean porn site?[/QUOTE]There's plenty of sites that advertise Officetel girls. You need to be able to speak and read Korean though. I never bothered with the ones that were in English off CL or BP since they seemed more expensive. Also, if you're not a "native Korean" you may want to mention that in advance. From what I've heard, some girls don't want to see Korean Americans -- none of the ones that I saw cared, but it could happen I suppose.
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Hey guys,
Going to be in Seoul for a night next week, trying to line something up.
Anyone know if the Dassom and Min-g girls advertising on BP are legit? They have their own website with a few girls, can't find any reviews for them though.
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Stay away
[QUOTE=ThaMong;1913924]Hey guys,
Going to be in Seoul for a night next week, trying to line something up.
Anyone know if the Dassom and Min-g girls advertising on BP are legit? They have their own website with a few girls, can't find any reviews for them though.[/QUOTE]Fake pictures and the girls are not worth it.
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Any VPN that's free and stable to download that you recommend?
Been using a phone app called red browser. Works fine but so damn slow sometimes.
Any desktop version you recommend?
[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1913849]Get a VPN. There are websites in Korean where all manner of services advertise themselves. You'll find officetels, lip cafes, anmas, kiss bangs, and all sorts of other variations with a wide variety of prices, services, and locations. Hell, there's even some fetish stuff advertised. These websites are all inaccessible in Korea unless you get a VPN.
Your post title indicates that you're looking for an agency. I can't help you with that as I haven't sampled that offering in Korea (too expensive, too much photoshopping of pictures, I've heard the service is just okay).
You seem like you're a gyopo. How good is your Korean? You should be able to navigate all of this with minimal hassle and minor trial and error.[/QUOTE]
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Thanks for the advice!
Just need to keep at it I guess.
[QUOTE=NotherMonger;1913884]There's plenty of sites that advertise Officetel girls. You need to be able to speak and read Korean though. I never bothered with the ones that were in English off CL or BP since they seemed more expensive. Also, if you're not a "native Korean" you may want to mention that in advance. From what I've heard, some girls don't want to see Korean Americans -- none of the ones that I saw cared, but it could happen I suppose.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1914287]Been using a phone app called red browser. Works fine but so damn slow sometimes.
Any desktop version you recommend?[/QUOTE]I've used Express VPN and Astrill. I prefer the latter. It's a paid service, but I think it's worth it to be able to access any blocked site here in Korea.
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[QUOTE=LloydChristmas;1914053]Fake pictures and the girls are not worth it.[/QUOTE]Thanks, that's good to know. How about Bohemian, or one of the other agencies? Any suggestions?
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[QUOTE=ThaMong;1914447]Thanks, that's good to know. How about Bohemian, or one of the other agencies? Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]Mixing threads, here, but I've been using the free Avira Phantom VPN that comes with the free Avira antivirus program. There's a limit on the'load but I'm selective.
Just my 2 cents, when I was in Seoul this spring, I saw 3 x Bohemian girls incall 75 mins each. Totally worth it, great GFE with each. When I'm back, going for a 2 girl session. Someone said Cindy is gone? Sophie and Tina were very good. Or their 'manager' will steer you right. To fact check, there are The other site reviews for each of the girls.
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When you say GFE what does that mean? Kissing and such or they cuddled and talked?
I guess they speak decent english?
And thanks for the VPN recommend. Will try that!
[QUOTE=Jolem;1914588]Mixing threads, here, but I've been using the free Avira Phantom VPN that comes with the free Avira antivirus program. There's a limit on the'load but I'm selective.
Just my 2 cents, when I was in Seoul this spring, I saw 3 x Bohemian girls incall 75 mins each. Totally worth it, great GFE with each. When I'm back, going for a 2 girl session. Someone said Cindy is gone? Sophie and Tina were very good. Or their 'manager' will steer you right. To fact check, there are The other site reviews for each of the girls.[/QUOTE]
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Thanks! Will try that also!
So much research to do now!!
[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1914296]I've used Express VPN and Astrill. I prefer the latter. It's a paid service, but I think it's worth it to be able to access any blocked site here in Korea.[/QUOTE]
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Independent
Sorry to be asking questions as my first post, but who is the most legit freelancer to hire in Seoul? I am quite flexible with my budget, so money is not really a problem. This will be my first and the last trip to Seoul, so I want to go with a safe bet.
I am thinking either Beautiful-girl-in-Korea or Sarah Miehn.
How is Riko Suzuki advertised on Massage republic? Does Dominatrix Jenna offer any sexual services at all?
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Sarah miehn seems to be the safest bet. Pretty established and she's korean american.
So speaks fluent english. I've never personally seen her but she's well reviewed and has her own website and blog. Definitely professional all the way. She changed her site and I guess her provider name to "Sarah Leegh" so search the web for that. She's pricey though around 400,000 won for an outcall for 1 HR.
Or other safe bet if you just want to just bang a hot girl and don't really care about conversing in english is a foreign friendly agency called Bohemian Escorts. The girls are also really well reviewed at another long time established escort review site and guys at this site have posted they are really good. Rates are pretty fair. 300,000 wons for outcall for 75 minutes. A bargain IMHO.
Anyway, have fun.
[QUOTE=JunLove;1914998]Sorry to be asking questions as my first post, but who is the most legit freelancer to hire in Seoul? I am quite flexible with my budget, so money is not really a problem. This will be my first and the last trip to Seoul, so I want to go with a safe bet.
I am thinking either Beautiful-girl-in-Korea or Sarah Miehn.
How is Riko Suzuki advertised on Massage republic? Does Dominatrix Jenna offer any sexual services at all?[/QUOTE]
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Gangnam yuk.
Recently went to a place that when translated was call some type of tree. I know that is broad but a work colleague took me there and my white friend wanted to go as well. I was going to call them and ask if they took foreigners but can't find their card on me or their website. I think the setup is very similar to cool. Any help would be appreciated.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1867130]Do they accept foreigners easily when you call or can you make an online reservation? Unless your Korean is pretty high and they can't notice that you are not Korean over the phone.[/QUOTE]No, I can't speak Korean language. I just know 10 or 12 words. Just tell them 'Waegok saram okay?' mean foreigner OK. Then proceed with very slow English.
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Officetel for a noob?
Could someone guide me on a sure way of finding an officetel girl.
I've heard of sites where these are posted but don't know where to even start looking. I read Korean, but don't speak much.
Any help appreciated.
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Any experience w Backpage?
Been looking at some of the indie listings on Backpage. The pics look good. Emailed got replies.
Anyone have experience? Are the girls legit or bait and switch? What can you expect as service?
I keep hearing about offive tel but you need to speak Korean is that correct?
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Bp
[QUOTE=DanDraper;1915752]Been looking at some of the indie listings on Backpage. The pics look good. Emailed got replies.
Anyone have experience? Are the girls legit or bait and switch? What can you expect as service?
I keep hearing about offive tel but you need to speak Korean is that correct?[/QUOTE]I've been partaking in only BP, since I can't speak Korean and afraid to hit the RLD. I've heard about OfficeTel, but I don't even know where to look, Google isn't helping.
Back to your question about BP. For the majority, it's bait and switch where the booker never provide accurate description. All the Booker does is send fake images that tries to go with what you ask for. There are a couple that I've meet that are very close to their description.
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Thank you
[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1915198]So speaks fluent english. I've never personally seen her but she's well reviewed and has her own website and blog. Definitely professional all the way. She changed her site and I guess her provider name to "Sarah Leegh" so search the web for that. She's pricey though around 400,000 won for an outcall for 1 HR..[/QUOTE]Thank You KgirlPower. I decided to go with Sarah Miehn and Beautiful-girl-in-Korea. Dominatrix Jenna said she doesn't offer any sexual services, so I think it is waste of money.
Her name is still Sarah Miehn and I Can see that there is Sarah Leegh too. I assume it is a different person. Maybe a fake profile? I have sent emails to both of them just to be sure.
450,000 won is not cheap but thank you for your reco. I gave her all my information because she asked for it but is this normal? I was never asked for information this thoroughly before so I am a little nervous. She sounds professional but I am still nervous. I have never hooked up with american girls, so I am not familiar with this type of deal. I called these Korean girls from BP last night and they didn't ask for any information. They came Over about one hour after They confirmed but they left as soon as I came all over their tits. They asked for 50,000 won more for COB. I was worried that they might work for a gang so I had to hand over the money. Did I get ripped off?
Beautiful-girl-in-Korea asked for 600,000 won so I opted for 1 hour with her. I didn't get a reply from her. Has anybody ever met her? She has a website but I cannot find any reviews.
I will post a review soon. I am supposed to meet Sarah Miehn next Tuesday.
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[QUOTE=JunLove;1915863]Thank You KgirlPower. I decided to go with Sarah Miehn and Beautiful-girl-in-Korea. Dominatrix Jenna said she doesn't offer any sexual services, so I think it is waste of money.
Her name is still Sarah Miehn and I Can see that there is Sarah Leegh too. I assume it is a different person. Maybe a fake profile? I have sent emails to both of them just to be sure.
450,000 won is not cheap but thank you for your reco. I gave her all my information because she asked for it but is this normal? I was never asked for information this thoroughly before so I am a little nervous. She sounds professional but I am still nervous. I have never hooked up with american girls, so I am not familiar with this type of deal. I called these Korean girls from BP last night and they didn't ask for any information. They came Over about one hour after They confirmed but they left as soon as I came all over their tits. They asked for 50,000 won more for COB. I was worried that they might work for a gang so I had to hand over the money. Did I get ripped off?
Beautiful-girl-in-Korea asked for 600,000 won so I opted for 1 hour with her. I didn't get a reply from her. Has anybody ever met her? She has a website but I cannot find any reviews.
I will post a review soon. I am supposed to meet Sarah Miehn next Tuesday.[/QUOTE]600000 won an hour? Who in their right mind would pay that?
Am I reading that wrong?
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Bp
[QUOTE=JunLove;1915863]. I called these Korean girls from BP last night and they didn't ask for any information. They came Over about one hour after They confirmed but they left as soon as I came all over their tits. They asked for 50,000 won more for COB. I was worried that they might work for a gang so I had to hand over the money. Did I get ripped off?
Beautiful-girl-in-Korea asked for 600,000 won so I opted for 1 hour with her. I didn't get a reply from her. Has anybody ever met her? She has a website but I cannot find any reviews...[/QUOTE]You probably got ripped off or didn't pay attention to the BP ad when you contacted the BP provider. COB is "usually" advertise with outcall services, but I never ask or perform that act during my visit. This way I can keep going for a couple more seconds after I blow. Are you crazy mad to fork over 600 K won for 1 hour?
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Sarah miehn and sarah leegh is the same person. Not sure why the change.
Of the name. But like I mentioned I have not seen sarah personally but she is well reviewed so she seems pretty legit.
But as for the BP korean girls do you have their profile link? Also, how much did you pay and were they worth it? Pretty or fat? Kissing and GFE or did they have alot of restrictions like no kissing etc. Outcall from normal kgirl is around 180,000-250,000 from my experience. And I think you would have been better off with Bohemian Escorts. The girls from this agency are well reviewed.
[QUOTE=JunLove;1915863]Thank You KgirlPower. I decided to go with Sarah Miehn and Beautiful-girl-in-Korea. Dominatrix Jenna said she doesn't offer any sexual services, so I think it is waste of money.
Her name is still Sarah Miehn and I Can see that there is Sarah Leegh too. I assume it is a different person. Maybe a fake profile? I have sent emails to both of them just to be sure.
450,000 won is not cheap but thank you for your reco. I gave her all my information because she asked for it but is this normal? I was never asked for information this thoroughly before so I am a little nervous. She sounds professional but I am still nervous. I have never hooked up with american girls, so I am not familiar with this type of deal. I called these Korean girls from BP last night and they didn't ask for any information. They came Over about one hour after They confirmed but they left as soon as I came all over their tits. They asked for 50,000 won more for COB. I was worried that they might work for a gang so I had to hand over the money. Did I get ripped off?
Beautiful-girl-in-Korea asked for 600,000 won so I opted for 1 hour with her. I didn't get a reply from her. Has anybody ever met her? She has a website but I cannot find any reviews.
I will post a review soon. I am supposed to meet Sarah Miehn next Tuesday.[/QUOTE]
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600,000 won is not normal, you can even try more good looking gals in business clubs near Jamsil, Bangi-dong, with GFE,If you have a Korean friends it will be easy.
[QUOTE=JunLove;1915863]Thank You KgirlPower. I decided to go with Sarah Miehn and Beautiful-girl-in-Korea. Dominatrix Jenna said she doesn't offer any sexual services, so I think it is waste of money.
Her name is still Sarah Miehn and I Can see that there is Sarah Leegh too. I assume it is a different person. Maybe a fake profile? I have sent emails to both of them just to be sure.
450,000 won is not cheap but thank you for your reco. I gave her all my information because she asked for it but is this normal? I was never asked for information this thoroughly before so I am a little nervous. She sounds professional but I am still nervous. I have never hooked up with american girls, so I am not familiar with this type of deal. I called these Korean girls from BP last night and they didn't ask for any information. They came Over about one hour after They confirmed but they left as soon as I came all over their tits. They asked for 50,000 won more for COB..[/QUOTE]
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Thank you
[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1916550]Of the name. But like I mentioned I have not seen sarah personally but she is well reviewed so she seems pretty legit.
But as for the BP korean girls do you have their profile link? Also, how much did you pay and were they worth it? Pretty or fat? Kissing and GFE or did they have alot of restrictions like no kissing etc. Outcall from normal kgirl is around 180,000-250,000 from my experience. And I think you would have been better off with Bohemian Escorts. The girls from this agency are well reviewed.[/QUOTE]I just don't like agency girls at all. Personally, factory line girls just don't appeal to me but thank you. Bohemian escort girls are not that hot for me. It feels yucky when I am with back to back girls no Offence. Whey I do DATY, their pussy smell like latex condoms. Stretched out, tired, constant texting, dumb, not my cup of tea.
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[QUOTE=JunLove;1916736]I just don't like agency girls at all. Personally, factory line girls just don't appeal to me but thank you. Bohemian escort girls are not that hot for me. It feels yucky when I am with back to back girls no Offence. Whey I do DATY, their pussy smell like latex condoms. Stretched out, tired, constant texting, dumb, not my cup of tea.[/QUOTE]So you're willing to pay 600000 won? ID rather not DATY and save 450000. To each his own.
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Best
[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1916909]So you're willing to pay 600000 won? ID rather not DATY and save 450000. To each his own.[/QUOTE]I had one of the best DATY experiences ever on Hooker Hill. It was 4:00 pm and I was the first of the day, for sure. I had my little toy with me, and she really got off on it. Fucked her in a few positions and busted in a terrifically hard doggie. I thought we were done but she grabbed my head and drove it in between her legs and wouldn't let me go. Sweet, tasty and fresh. I think it is the deepest I have ever had my tongue inside. She came in a magnificent fashion. Spectacular! 80,000.
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Eewwwww! Gross! Why would you DATY a Red light district girl! A toilet is cleaner
Well you better pray to god she was your first of the day or if you are the first she at least soaped and douched before seeing you instead of letting you suck on a pussy full of yeast that she didn't get rid of when she woke up.
And you realize RLDs don't shower between sessions? And use only handy wipes to just clean their tits and just outside their pussies right? Rest of their bodies and inside their pussies have leftover other dudes dried up spit and left over cum.
So you just ate some dudes leftover semen and spit my man or pussy full of left over [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and yeast if she didn't douche!
Just plan gross.
[QUOTE=SimonWagstaff;1916992]I had one of the best DATY experiences ever on Hooker Hill. It was 4:00 pm and I was the first of the day, for sure. I had my little toy with me, and she really got off on it. Fucked her in a few positions and busted in a terrifically hard doggie. I thought we were done but she grabbed my head and drove it in between her legs and wouldn't let me go. Sweet, tasty and fresh. I think it is the deepest I have ever had my tongue inside. She came in a magnificent fashion. Spectacular! 80,000.[/QUOTE]
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He is right on this one
[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1917030]Well you better pray to god she was your first of the day or if you are the first she at least soaped and douched before seeing you instead of letting you suck on a pussy full of yeast that she didn't get rid of when she woke up.
And you realize RLDs don't shower between sessions? And use only handy wipes to just clean their tits and just outside their pussies right? Rest of their bodies and inside their pussies have leftover other dudes dried up spit and left over cum.[/QUOTE]This is actually true.
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1916550]Of the name. But like I mentioned I have not seen sarah personally but she is well reviewed so she seems pretty legit.
But as for the BP korean girls do you have their profile link? Also, how much did you pay and were they worth it? Pretty or fat? Kissing and GFE or did they have alot of restrictions like no kissing etc. Outcall from normal kgirl is around 180,000-250,000 from my experience. And I think you would have been better off with Bohemian Escorts. The girls from this agency are well reviewed.[/QUOTE]I keep hearing the mention of Bohemian. Will probably check them out to be safe rather than sorry. But any other agencies? I found one called Master Korea.
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Depends on the RLD
Cheonho. The girls definitely wash before and after.
Miari. The girls wash after, but not before.
Incheon. Before and after.
Suwon. Wet wipes.
Hooker Hill. Wet wipes.
588 - don't know LOL.
Indie girls - before and after
Agency girls - don't know
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Found new escort agency
Found new escort agency in Seoul backpage.
Fresh agency I have never seen before.
Can anybody give it try and give feedback?
Seems pretty legit.
[URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/elite-world-class-escort-service-fantasy-escort88-sexy-pretty/3774846[/URL]
[URL]fantasyescort88.com[/URL]
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[QUOTE=RainMania;1917213]Cheonho. The girls definitely wash before and after.
Miari. The girls wash after, but not before.
(snip)[/QUOTE]I can confirm this. I've been going to those two RLDs for years.
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[QUOTE=Lsczzzz;1917432]Found new escort agency in Seoul backpage.
Fresh agency I have never seen before.
Can anybody give it try and give feedback?
Seems pretty legit.
[URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/elite-world-class-escort-service-fantasy-escort88-sexy-pretty/3774846[/URL]
[URL]fantasyescort88.com[/URL][/QUOTE]You should try it first. Unless you are working for the agency ㅋ.
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Sarah Miehn review
So finally had my date with Sarah. I was able to book her for an overnight 8 pm-8 am, and it was worth every penny (3500 $). She is so cool and fun. Talking with her is such a pleasure. I had a real experience. It was like I had a beautiful girlfriend for the night without all the nagging. I am going to remember spooning her and falling asleep and I have more than enough memories for later when all I can do is think of her. There is no need to get to X rated in the review, like others said she delivers as long as you respect her.
Most of the time I don't really want to remember my other adventures. I usually felt like it was just transaction, a means to an end. Yes you can get those other girls for a low price but you could just wank and pass out saving the trouble and money. This was like flying business class for the first time. I don't think I can go back.
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I liked it!
[QUOTE=Justemp;1917102]This is actually true.[/QUOTE]Fresh and clean, first of the day for sure. No leftover cum spilling out of broken condoms.
Tasty.
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So you hooked up with Sommy?
Dude,
Awesome. How was the service and how much did you pay?
I will be in Seoul from this Sunday to Tuesday. Is Fish better on a Sunday or a Monday, and what's the best time to go?
[QUOTE=GCNovice;1910059]Guess I should stop lurker.
BP is basically 98% all fake images with agency advertising as Indy. I know it's probably better on the wallet to visit anmas or the RLD, but my scared self hasn't gone. However, if this is the Sommy that I' partake with, then you shouldn't worry too about her. She does have an awesome body and witty humor, even though she doesn't speak English. I'm pretty good with broken English.[/QUOTE]
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Nice hopefully you gave a little shout out to me "kgirlpower"! Haha
Man, must be nice to be rich. Unlike me.
[QUOTE=JunLove;1917842]So finally had my date with Sarah. I was able to book her for an overnight 8 pm-8 am, and it was worth every penny (3500 $). She is so cool and fun. Talking with her is such a pleasure. I had a real experience. It was like I had a beautiful girlfriend for the night without all the nagging. I am going to remember spooning her and falling asleep and I have more than enough memories for later when all I can do is think of her. There is no need to get to X rated in the review, like others said she delivers as long as you respect her.
Most of the time I don't really want to remember my other adventures. I usually felt like it was just transaction, a means to an end. Yes you can get those other girls for a low price but you could just wank and pass out saving the trouble and money. This was like flying business class for the first time. I don't think I can go back.[/QUOTE]
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Fish is closed on sundays and 7 pm-8 pm seems the girl shift change
So that's probably the best since new fresh pussies start work. But that's also the busiest time. Sometimes can wait 1-2 hrs.
[QUOTE=TokyoGuy01;1917910]Dude,
Awesome. How was the service and how much did you pay?
I will be in Seoul from this Sunday to Tuesday. Is Fish better on a Sunday or a Monday, and what's the best time to go?[/QUOTE]
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Let's cut to the chase
[QUOTE=JunLove;1917842]So finally had my date with Sarah. I was able to book her for an overnight 8 pm-8 am, and it was worth every penny (3500 $). She is so cool and fun. Talking with her is such a pleasure. I had a real experience. It was like I had a beautiful girlfriend for the night without all the nagging. I am going to remember spooning her and falling asleep and I have more than enough memories for later when all I can do is think of her. There is no need to get to X rated in the review, like others said she delivers as long as you respect her.
Most of the time I don't really want to remember my other adventures. I usually felt like it was just transaction, a means to an end. Yes you can get those other girls for a low price but you could just wank and pass out saving the trouble and money. This was like flying business class for the first time. I don't think I can go back.[/QUOTE]I was suspicious of this from the start, but I can now say I'm 80% sure.
Hello Sarah.
Let's not do the whole "self review via noob punter" routine. You're better than that.
You are well reviewed on this forum. I myself have given you positive reviews and continue to hold you to the highest regard.
If business is slow, perhaps try adjusting your rates? Afterall, the world is heading towards a recession as we speak. It's only natural that people make the necessary adjustments to wade through muddy water.
If your rates went down to pre-2015 levels, I'm sure plenty of punters on this forum (active and lurkers) would be more than williing to make bookings.
Anyway, I bid you all the best.
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[QUOTE=Lsczzzz;1917432]Found new escort agency in Seoul backpage.
Fresh agency I have never seen before.
Can anybody give it try and give feedback?
Seems pretty legit.
[URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/elite-world-class-escort-service-fantasy-escort88-sexy-pretty/3774846[/URL]
[URL]fantasyescort88.com[/URL][/QUOTE]If you pay for one of us to try it out for you, I'm sure you'll get what you're looking for.
Good luck!
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I still got some money left for fun
[QUOTE=RainMania;1918034]I was suspicious of this from the start, but I can now say I'm 80% sure.
Hello Sarah.
Let's not do the whole "self review via noob punter" routine. You're better than that.
You are well reviewed on this forum. I myself have given you positive reviews and continue to hold you to the highest regard.
If business is slow, perhaps try adjusting your rates? Afterall, the world is heading towards a recession as we speak. It's only natural that people make the necessary adjustments to wade through muddy water.
If your rates went down to pre-2015 levels, I'm sure plenty of punters on this forum (active and lurkers) would be more than williing to make bookings.
Anyway, I bid you all the best.[/QUOTE]I still got some money left for fun for the next two days.
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[QUOTE=JunLove;1918063]I still got some money left for fun for the next two days.[/QUOTE]Alright man.
Enjoy your stay in Korea.
Thanks for confirming the authenticity of your post.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;1918035]If you pay for one of us to try it out for you, I'm sure you'll get what you're looking for.
Good luck![/QUOTE]Uhmmmmmm. No!
You're probably an agency advertising here.
So lets us know how it goes.
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[QUOTE=JunLove;1918063]I still got some money left for fun for the next two days.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't brag too much about having to spend 3500 for a night with a chick plus another 1000.
Wow. No wonder indy rates are high.
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Not open on Sundays?
Damn! Any place you recommend on a Sunday? And thanks again for all the info.
[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1917999]So that's probably the best since new fresh pussies start work. But that's also the busiest time. Sometimes can wait 1-2 hrs.[/QUOTE]
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Anmas? Then no. All seem to close on sundays. Other places are open.
For a great massage with nice CIM BJ try Jinju. Also, Cool seems to be like Jinju these days per the post on this forum. Officetls are open but need a VPN or use red browser to get pass the korean firewall and to access the officetel websites.
And of course Red Light Districts are open but its a dying industry. Especially 588, girls are mediocre milfs or fattties and service is horrible these days. Ie. No CIM, no bareback creampies, no kissing.
[QUOTE=TokyoGuy01;1918197]Damn! Any place you recommend on a Sunday? And thanks again for all the info.[/QUOTE]
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Cheers in Itaewon, circa 2007-2008
I've been in Korea for about 10 years altogether between 2005 and now. I'm an American guy (not Korean or Asian American), and speak fluent Korean. I'm a long-time lurker on these forums, and don't do much mongering these days. Though, I'd like to share some stories of my past exploits, if you guys don't mind. I hope this isn't too inappropriate or graphic for this board. Well then, here goes:
I used to frequent a juicy bar on Hooker Hill in Itaewon. It was on the left side, closer to the bottom of the hill. I think it was called "Cheers", or something like that.
Anyway, I had been there once before, and had my eyes set on a girl named Ahruem (I think she still works there now). She was new there, so I knew she wasn't indoctrinated yet. I was in my early 20's at the time, and was very interested in the juicy bar scene. I wanted to see how far I could go with the girls there. I guess I was a little bit twisted in that way.
When I arrived in the bar, one of the other girls wanted me to buy her a drink. I already had my eyes set on Ahreum though, so I pretended that I had already known Ahreum and that we were good friends. I called Ahreum over to ask if I could buy a drink for her ($20). I did, and we moved over into the secluded area with the curtain near the entrance.
As we sat inside, I put my army around her and we start chatting a bit. I'm throwing a few jokes out there in Korean and getting her comfortable. At this point, about 10 minutes or so have passed. I've already dropped $20 on a drink, and she's ready to get up and get another. She asks politely, and I give her the go ahead. She gets another drink, returns, and we continue our conversation.
As soon as she sits down, I immediately start rubbing on her thighs. I take her other hand in mine, and I sense she's starting to get excited (or nervous) because her palms start to sweat. I move my hand further upwards into her panties and start rubbing on her vagina. She starts to push away, but I tell her it's all good, as I start to insert my fingers inside of her. She settles down a bit and begins to moan.
She's dripping wet as I'm fingering her, rubbing my arms up and down and bracing herself. About 20 minutes have passed since her last drink, and I'm starting to get worried that someone might pop in on us to check for her. We pause and I give her another $20 and she goes to get another drink.
Once she returns, I take the drink from her hand, and place her on the couch doggy style. I pull her panties off and around her feet, and pull out my dick as I continue to rub her vagina. She had a nice, tight, shapely ass. I had never seen an ass like this on a Korean woman. She has an idea of what's about to happen, but she's just sitting there with a bit of a confused look on her face. Dripping wet, and wondering why I've just rubbed spit all over my dick.
I quickly get behind her on the couch, and shove my dick inside of her. As I'm pounding away as deep and as hard as possible, she's moaning and telling me how much it hurts. I ask her if she wants me to stop, and she moans, "No. ". Her arms are wrapped backward behind my head holding me tight, and my tongue is about half way down her throat.
My dick slips out, but I quickly put it back in and continue to pound her. At this point, I distinctly remember her telling me, "Please, don't cum inside of me. I'm not on birth control. " in Korean. But I was young and stupid, and could not control myself. I made sure that I did not spill a drop of cum outside of her vagina. I made sure she took it all in.
Afterward, she quickly tried to put her panties back on, while the cum dripped outside of her and down her leg. She used a few tissues to clean herself up. Before hurrying to the bathroom, she whipped out her cellphone and commanded me to give her my phone number, just in case there were any "complications" later on. I happily obliged, figuring that this might just be a good opportunity to hook up with her again at a later date.
All that fun and more for $60. What a night, and one that I would repeat at Cheers over and over again. Jesus, I've been wanting to tell this story for years. I have so many good memories of cheers. I look forwarded to sharing old stories and new!
I've heard Miari is going the way of the Dodo. I used to hang out there a lot as well. I plan to hit up that place over the next week, and hope to have some good stories and info to share.
Thanks for reading!
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Sarah is still quite good. She has put on some baby fat. She was never skinny and she isn't anything close to fat.
If you are 100 percent clear that you will not accept someone not matching the pictures it can help narrow down backpage indy options. I have turned down 3 who knocked on the door with no repercussions.
The guy who advertises Thai escorts. Mostly hits and a great value.
There's a blonde russian on backpage. Doesn't quite match the pics maybe they are old pics but she is fantastic.
If you spend 10 or 15 minutes on backpage you will see that some of the ads have common themes. Cutesy writing on faces, exact same list of no-nos. Those are all agencies with fake pics and you can avoid those. And anytime you can get someone before 5 pm you are dealing with the genuine article and not an independent.
I am going to check out one of the Japanese girls that is posting. Will report back.
Sangdong station has a few great Thai spots.
[QUOTE=RainMania;1918034]I was suspicious of this from the start, but I can now say I'm 80% sure.
Hello Sarah.
Let's not do the whole "self review via noob punter" routine. You're better than that.
You are well reviewed on this forum. I myself have given you positive reviews and continue to hold you to the highest regard.
If business is slow, perhaps try adjusting your rates? Afterall, the world is heading towards a recession as we speak. It's only natural that people make the necessary adjustments to wade through muddy water.
If your rates went down to pre-2015 levels, I'm sure plenty of punters on this forum (active and lurkers) would be more than williing to make bookings.
Anyway, I bid you all the best.[/QUOTE]
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Hi,
Will do my first ever visit to Seoul next week.
After reading the last 35 pages of this thread, I think I will go to that hooker hill and ask my way through for BBFS.
Any other recommendations for finding BBFS girls?
Thanks in advance.
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In my considerable experience, if incall is an option, whether its an agency or an independent, the bait and switch isn't an issue, plus you're going to get a better rate, and don't have to worry about waiting around while the girl is in a cab or getting delivered by her handler in the ridiculous Seoul traffic. My biggest incall issues. Maybe the pictures were a few years old, or maybe I had to wait for 15 minutes. Or maybe the room is messy. Go early in the day. Early is good.
[QUOTE=JunLove;1916736]I just don't like agency girls at all. Personally, factory line girls just don't appeal to me but thank you. Bohemian escort girls are not that hot for me. It feels yucky when I am with back to back girls no Offence. Whey I do DATY, their pussy smell like latex condoms. Stretched out, tired, constant texting, dumb, not my cup of tea.[/QUOTE]
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Miari & Suwon Red Light Districts - 12 PM to 2 PM
I went to the Miari RLD at around 12 PM noon and hit up the Suwon RLD around 2 PM.
Miari -
Offered service by most of the ajumma's I encountered. I went with 3 or 4 ajumma's (actually, they were all sitting together in a group) to inspect their providers. All the providers I saw were either old, ugly, or both. But my little brain got the best of me, so I decided to give one a try. The ajumma promised that the provider wouldn't rush me, and would give me 30 minutes of play time. I made the ajumma swear on her mother's grave that she would refund me my money if I was rushed.
Of course, not two minutes into pounding this provider, she tells me to hurry up and finish. I about did a backwards somersault up from the missionary position. Put on my clothes and told the provider to grab the ajumma. I explained to the ajumma what had happened, and of course, the wench did not give me my money back. Not that I expected it, but don't expect not to get rushed when going into these establishments.
My mistake was that I did not make the provider agree to not rush me. Though, I do not know if that would have made any difference. I used to go to the Miari RLD all the time at night and received amazing service. I hope that it was just the time of day, and not a sign of things going into the gutter. Needless to say, I won't be going back there again during daytime!
Suwon-
I haven't been ignored this much since strolling through the old Yongsan RLD A row. And this is the Suwon RLD be row we're talking about here.
The Sri Lankans and other SE Asian dudes had no issues getting called at by the providers and getting service. I was able to get service here in the past (30,000 to 50,000 KRW a pop. Depending on whether or not I could convince them that I wasn't American! As I walked pass a couple of providers, I heard them trying to figure out where I come from. One finally decides that I must be American, as the other questions what I'm doing there. Ugh.
At least I expect better reception at night time at the Miari RLD. For the Suwon RLD though, I'll probably not come back here for a long while.
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[QUOTE=TowTowRow;1919811]If you are 100 percent clear that you will not accept someone not matching the pictures it can help narrow down backpage indy options. I have turned down 3 who knocked on the door with no repercussions.
The guy who advertises Thai escorts. Mostly hits and a great value.
There's a blonde russian on backpage. Doesn't quite match the pics maybe they are old pics but she is fantastic.
If you spend 10 or 15 minutes on backpage you will see that some of the ads have common themes. Cutesy writing on faces, exact same list of no-nos. Those are all agencies with fake pics and you can avoid those. And anytime you can get someone before 5 pm you are dealing with the genuine article and not an independent.[/QUOTE]Indeed. The same konglish writing like "playing fingers to pussy. " A lot of the pictures have artifacts (not sure if this is the correct term) and look like a download of a download of a downloaded pic. A lot of "independents" will send the same pic another "independent" sent me when I asked for a recent pic. I've called a few of them out on it and they either don't reply or they say they post under different names because they want a lot of customers, LOL. I'm looking for my first foray into mongering but am leaning towards not going the BP route despite the hotness of a lot of the pictures. A lot of them are asking for crazy prices, too, like 260 K on up for 1 hour to 90 minutes for 1 shot. No, thanks. There is one who says she is a university student and offered to send a pic of her when she is on her way but it still seems fishy. The pic though. Haha.
I have a birthday coming up that I'd like to celebrate with some hot action but nothing is really striking me as legitimate there. Might just hit up the Hill or Miari.
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Fish and the fluffer
So I just went to Fish and had a pretty good time. It's all fresh in my mind, so I want to put pen to paper before it becomes a blur. If you've never been before then I'll let you know what to expect.
Walk in and take off your shoes. You'll be given slippers to wear. At the front desk, ignore the the sign that says "No Foreigners." Pay your 220,000 and go downstairs. You'll be given a bracelet with a number and key. That is your locker number. Get naked and put your clothes in the locker.
Now you got to shower a bit. No need to brush your teeth or get really clean. I'll explain later. Dry off and put on a robe. Now you got to wait until they call your number. It wasn't busy when I got there, but I still had to wait about 15 min. They call your number but don't get too excited. Now you can choose what girl you want in a little room outside the locker area. Choose and now you got to wait again until your girl is free. I had to wait another 45 min, but I assume if your girl is free then you can go immediately. Have a free drink that's provided and wait.
Again they call your number and probably a few others, too. This is where it gets interesting. I had read that there was a fluffer in the elevator that gives you a quick BJ. Obviously that's not going to happen with three other guys going up with you. But what I had was better. I get out of the elevator and the guys with me are told to go to their room. I was told to sit and wait. Suddenly, a hot chick wearing fishnet stockings and a mask comes out and opens my robe. She then applies something to my nipples and starts sucking on them. After a minute, she gives me a BJ. Then she stops and I look down and she's put a condom on me! She starts to ride me and I'm thinking this is un-effing-real! She stops after a bit, and leads me to a room. There in the room waiting is the chick I choose! This was the fluffer, not my chick. Unbelievable.
I tried to ask my chick why I got the special service, since the other guys didn't get that, but she couldn't speak enough English to understand. Anyway, don't expect this to happen to you. If it does, consider yourself lucky.
Anyhow, cute chick and we make very small talk before she showers me and makes me brush my teeth. After my shower I lay down on the table in the shower where she gives me a body rub and licks my arse like there's no tomorrow. She then licks my whole body and gives me a nice BJ.
Finally on the bed there's more licking, more BJ, and finally the home run.
Good experience but the fluffer made it even better. I would definitely go again and cross my fingers for the gift I got.
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[QUOTE=SeoulBro;1920008]I went to the Miari RLD at around 12 PM noon and hit up the Suwon RLD around 2 PM.
Miari -
Offered service by most of the ajumma's I encountered. I went with 3 or 4 ajumma's (actually, they were all sitting together in a group) to inspect their providers. All the providers I saw were either old, ugly, or both. But my little brain got the best of me, so I decided to give one a try. The ajumma promised that the provider wouldn't rush me, and would give me 30 minutes of play time. I made the ajumma swear on her mother's grave that she would refund me my money if I was rushed.
Of course, not two minutes into pounding this provider, she tells me to hurry up and finish. I about did a backwards somersault up from the missionary position. Put on my clothes and told the provider to grab the ajumma. I explained to the ajumma what had happened, and of course, the wench did not give me my money back. Not that I expected it, but don't expect not to get rushed when going into these establishments.
My mistake was that I did not make the provider agree to not rush me. Though, I do not know if that would have made any difference. I used to go to the Miari RLD all the time at night and received amazing service. I hope that it was just the time of day, and not a sign of things going into the gutter. Needless to say, I won't be going back there again during daytime!
Suwon-
I haven't been ignored this much since strolling through the old Yongsan RLD A row. And this is the Suwon RLD be row we're talking about here.
The Sri Lankans and other SE Asian dudes had no issues getting called at by the providers and getting service. I was able to get service here in the past (30,000 to 50,000 KRW a pop. Depending on whether or not I could convince them that I wasn't American! As I walked pass a couple of providers, I heard them trying to figure out where I come from. One finally decides that I must be American, as the other questions what I'm doing there. Ugh.
At least I expect better reception at night time at the Miari RLD. For the Suwon RLD though, I'll probably not come back here for a long while.[/QUOTE]Day time Miari is when the older women work. You'd be hard pressed to find a provider under 35. Most are fat and not as attractive, but Miari being Miari, the fun is in the search as well as fucking.
Sometimes you'll find a great looking MILF, I once scored a size 8 with see cups who was very tight, pretty face too, told me she was 37 after asking my age. She didn't rush one bit, long BJ, cowgirl, reverse cow girl, mish, doggy, creampie and then a long BJ afterwards.
The mistake you made with the provider was sticking your dick in. As you said, you should have made the agreement before fucking. Once you start fucking, any chance of a refund is gone. You get a refund if you and the girl disagree about something before sex (use of condoms etc). I've walked out in the past and gotten my full money back.
Younger women usually start working after 6 pm. Most arrive around 7-8 pm.
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How do you deal with the dragon lady madams guarding the doors?
I've been to miari few times and its a pain in the ass! You get them to open the door and you see all the girls sitting wearing huge wedding gowns so you can't even see the bodies. Could be rolls of hippo fat underneath! Which has happen to me. Dropped the dress and the chicks were fatsos. And when you try to leave the dragon ladies like yell at you and crap. This is the reason I liked 588, girls were in plain view and could talk to them about the service. Ie. Do you CIM. Bareback? Etc. And if they don't do it I just move on to the next door. Easy hagglng. Miari, you have to deal with the grannies and then have to deal with the girl again. Total hassle!
[QUOTE=RainMania;1920244]Day time Miari is when the older women work. You'd be hard pressed to find a provider under 35. Most are fat and not as attractive, but Miari being Miari, the fun is in the search as well as fucking.
Sometimes you'll find a great looking MILF, I once scored a size 8 with see cups who was very tight, pretty face too, told me she was 37 after asking my age. She didn't rush one bit, long BJ, cowgirl, reverse cow girl, mish, doggy, creampie and then a long BJ afterwards.
The mistake you made with the provider was sticking your dick in. As you said, you should have made the agreement before fucking. Once you start fucking, any chance of a refund is gone. You get a refund if you and the girl disagree about something before sex (use of condoms etc). I've walked out in the past and gotten my full money back.
Younger women usually start working after 6 pm. Most arrive around 7-8 pm.[/QUOTE]
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Damn! So lucky!
Sounds like you had fun and great service. Never received what you got. Always a fluffer with BJ only. I tried carrasing their hair or touching their arms few times when they were blowing me but my hands were literally slapped away like flies. Pretty robotic service the fluffing part. Which I totally understand. Shit I bet the fluffer girls have to blow like 30-40 guys day. Mouth must be sore as hell after a days work.
Your main girl did you get DFK kissing or CIM or bareback?
[QUOTE=TokyoGuy01;1920143]So I just went to Fish and had a pretty good time. It's all fresh in my mind, so I want to put pen to paper before it becomes a blur. If you've never been before then I'll let you know what to expect.
Walk in and take off your shoes. You'll be given slippers to wear. At the front desk, ignore the the sign that says "No Foreigners." Pay your 220,000 and go downstairs. You'll be given a bracelet with a number and key. That is your locker number. Get naked and put your clothes in the locker.
Now you got to shower a bit. No need to brush your teeth or get really clean. I'll explain later. Dry off and put on a robe. Now you got to wait until they call your number. It wasn't busy when I got there, but I still had to wait about 15 min. They call your number but don't get too excited. Now you can choose what girl you want in a little room outside the locker area. Choose and now you got to wait again until your girl is free. I had to wait another 45 min, but I assume if your girl is free then you can go immediately. Have a free drink that's provided and wait.
Again they call your number and probably a few others, too. This is where it gets interesting. I had read that there was a fluffer in the elevator that gives you a quick BJ. Obviously that's not going to happen with three other guys going up with you. But what I had was better. I get out of the elevator and the guys with me are told to go to their room. I was told to sit and wait. Suddenly, a hot chick wearing fishnet stockings and a mask comes out and opens my robe. She then applies something to my nipples and starts sucking on them. After a minute, she gives me a BJ. Then she stops and I look down and she's put a condom on me! She starts to ride me and I'm thinking this is un-effing-real! She stops after a bit, and leads me to a room. There in the room waiting is the chick I choose! This was the fluffer, not my chick. Unbelievable.
I tried to ask my chick why I got the special service, since the other guys didn't get that, but she couldn't speak enough English to understand. Anyway, don't expect this to happen to you. If it does, consider yourself lucky.
Anyhow, cute chick and we make very small talk before she showers me and makes me brush my teeth. After my shower I lay down on the table in the shower where she gives me a body rub and licks my arse like there's no tomorrow. She then licks my whole body and gives me a nice BJ.
Finally on the bed there's more licking, more BJ, and finally the home run.
Good experience but the fluffer made it even better. I would definitely go again and cross my fingers for the gift I got.[/QUOTE]
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Massive tits Miari
Don't know what happened yesterday, I tried to set up a lip cafe appointment with no luck. Just about every lip cafe listed on abam, bamwars and opview was either fully booked or not picking the phone (which also suggests fully booked). Maybe yesterday was national BJ day or something LOL.
Went over to Miari. Didn't want to visit my usual place, so I started my entry from the other end of the RLD. Ajumma beckoned me in and tells me she has a good girl available, most of the time it's bullshit, sometimes they're actually telling the truth.
I walked in, and recognized the girl. I'd seen her at another house in Miari before, short, ok face, massive tits (D or E), not skinny but not fat, slight belly (nothing bigger than the average middle aged woman), and a little tight.
The last time we fucked, I didn't last 5 mins. This time around was no different. After a crappy BJ, she got on top and rode aggressively while sucking and licking on my nipples. Managed to play with her knockers before busting everything inside with her on top, and even then she didn't stop, she just kept going!
I can usually go the full length and over at Miari with no issue but there's something about this particular woman that makes me cum in no time. I've definitely found a new regular. Next time I may have to pay for 2 shots with her.
Face - 6. 5.
Body - 6. 5.
Boobs - 9.
BJ skills - 5.
BBFS - 9.
Overall - 7. 5.
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1920680]I've been to miari few times and its a pain in the ass! You get them to open the door and you see all the girls sitting wearing huge wedding gowns so you can't even see the bodies. Could be rolls of hippo fat underneath! Which has happen to me. Dropped the dress and the chicks were fatsos. And when you try to leave the dragon ladies like yell at you and crap. This is the reason I liked 588, girls were in plain view and could talk to them about the service. Ie. Do you CIM. Bareback? Etc. And if they don't do it I just move on to the next door. Easy hagglng. Miari, you have to deal with the grannies and then have to deal with the girl again. Total hassle![/QUOTE]You deal with them the same way you deal with any other ajumma in the country. Friendly banter, polite, lots of smiling and insistence on what you want.
If you tell the ajummas what you want (CIM, BBFS etc), they'll know which girl does what and will direct you to her. If they don't have a provider that offers your preferred services, they'll call one of their ajumma friends to take you to another establishment.
The only downer is they are often dishonest about the looks / age of the girls, because they're counting on you to think with your dick. If you're not happy with your selection's appearance, you can always send her back and call for another one. As long as you don't fuck anyone there, you'll get a full refund if nothing meets your fancy.
Worst case scenario they might shout at you, but it's literally the same tone every ajumma in the country uses. Just laugh it off, apologize, bow and take your leave. Promise you'll come back next time.
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Fish
[QUOTE=TokyoGuy01;1920143]So I just went to Fish and had a pretty good time. It's all fresh in my mind, so I want to put pen to paper before it becomes a blur. If you've never been before then I'll let you know what to expect.
Walk in and take off your shoes. You'll be given slippers to wear. At the front desk, ignore the the sign that says "No Foreigners." Pay your 220,000 and go downstairs. You'll be given a bracelet with a number and key. That is your locker number. Get naked and put your clothes in the locker.
Now you got to shower a bit. No need to brush your teeth or get really clean. I'll explain later. Dry off and put on a robe. Now you got to wait until they call your number. It wasn't busy when I got there, but I still had to wait about 15 min. They call your number but don't get too excited. Now you can choose what girl you want in a little room outside the locker area. Choose and now you got to wait again until your girl is free. I had to wait another 45 min, but I assume if your girl is free then you can go immediately. Have a free drink that's provided and wait..[/QUOTE]Hey bro,
Can share the location of the place you described? Fish?
Thanks.
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Well. I'm about done with RLDs. The quality and service is just not worth it anymore
I get it that 70,000 at RLD vs 200,000 for officetels and anmas is a big differnce. But with the medicore looks and service at RLDs these days. I rather save my money and fuck every 3 weeks at officetels or anmas vs once a week at RLD now.
[QUOTE=RainMania;1920792]You deal with them the same way you deal with any other ajumma in the country. Friendly banter, polite, lots of smiling and insistence on what you want.
If you tell the ajummas what you want (CIM, BBFS etc), they'll know which girl does what and will direct you to her. If they don't have a provider that offers your preferred services, they'll call one of their ajumma friends to take you to another establishment.
The only downer is they are often dishonest about the looks / age of the girls, because they're counting on you to think with your dick. If you're not happy with your selection's appearance, you can always send her back and call for another one. As long as you don't fuck anyone there, you'll get a full refund if nothing meets your fancy.
Worst case scenario they might shout at you, but it's literally the same tone every ajumma in the country uses. Just laugh it off, apologize, bow and take your leave. Promise you'll come back next time.[/QUOTE]
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Those hands should also be given a rating of 1. Damn gnarly looking finger nails!
No offense but those are some ugly ass hands.
[QUOTE=RainMania;1920788]Don't know what happened yesterday, I tried to set up a lip cafe appointment with no luck. Just about every lip cafe listed on abam, bamwars and opview was either fully booked or not picking the phone (which also suggests fully booked). Maybe yesterday was national BJ day or something LOL.
Went over to Miari. Didn't want to visit my usual place, so I started my entry from the other end of the RLD. Ajumma beckoned me in and tells me she has a good girl available, most of the time it's bullshit, sometimes they're actually telling the truth.
I walked in, and recognized the girl. I'd seen her at another house in Miari before, short, ok face, massive tits (D or E), not skinny but not fat, slight belly (nothing bigger than the average middle aged woman), and a little tight.
The last time we fucked, I didn't last 5 mins. This time around was no different. After a crappy BJ, she got on top and rode aggressively while sucking and licking on my nipples. Managed to play with her knockers before busting everything inside with her on top, and even then she didn't stop, she just kept going!
I can usually go the full length and over at Miari with no issue but there's something about this particular woman that makes me cum in no time. I've definitely found a new regular. Next time I may have to pay for 2 shots with her.
Face - 6. 5.
Body - 6. 5.
Boobs - 9.
BJ skills - 5.
BBFS - 9.
Overall - 7. 5.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1921199]No offense but those are some ugly ass hands.[/QUOTE]Not there for the hands dude LOL.
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1921196]I get it that 70,000 at RLD vs 200,000 for officetels and anmas is a big differnce. But with the medicore looks and service at RLDs these days. I rather save my money and fuck every 3 weeks at officetels or anmas vs once a week at RLD now.[/QUOTE]Like I said in a previous post, the fun is in the chase as well as the fucking. I don't mind dealing with the ajummas, they get better the more they recognize you.
I'm still more of a quantity over quality punter, especially if I can get satisfactory or better than satisfactory service from women I find attractive. I'm also personally not a fan of anything that offers less than 2 pops for 200 k won plus, unless the service is out of this world.
No doubt Anma and Officetel girls are better in terms of looks and (mostly) services, but you'd be hard pressed to find services like BBFS at reasonable rates at either or both.
It might take some time to find your niche though. When you do, stick to it for as long as you can.
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The main girl
[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1920683]Sounds like you had fun and great service. Never received what you got. Always a fluffer with BJ only. I tried carrasing their hair or touching their arms few times when they were blowing me but my hands were literally slapped away like flies. Pretty robotic service the fluffing part. Which I totally understand. Shit I bet the fluffer girls have to blow like 30-40 guys day. Mouth must be sore as hell after a days work.
Your main girl did you get DFK kissing or CIM or bareback?[/QUOTE]If DFK means deep French kissing and bareback means no condom during sex then I wouldn't do that even if she offered. I don't like kissing them unless I know I'm the first customer. And I never do bareback with a working girl. Not sure if I could've done CIM. I usually can't last long when it's s new experience so I had to shove it in her box before I shot. And I'm older so shooting twice is hard to do.
But she did give a good BJ and seemed into the sex even though I didn't last long.
BTW, do all Korean chicks love sucking on a guy's nipples? I hate that but the fluffed and my chick loved doing it.
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Review Backpage vs Agency
I'm staying in Seoul for a short time. I emailed like 10 ads on Backpage and tried to differentiate fakes and real ones.
I ended up contacting one girl called Heejin that claimed to be a 22 yo indie college student. Total be&S. The girl that came looked nothing like the picture, and she looked more like 27-29 and acted like a pro. Pretty average looking. Uninspired BBJ, no DKF, tried 69 for like 30 seconds and then FS. Left after pop about 30-40 minutes. 230 K KRW. Would not recommend!
Then I tried Master Korea Agency a different day. They asked 290 K KRW / HR. Negotiated to 240 K. Picked a girl called "Miss I". She wasn't the girl in the pic but hot none the less. I would rate here a 9/10 in looks. It was 2 AM when she arrived and seemed either she just woke up or she's been clubbing all night. Smelled like cigarettes. CBJ, no DKF, no 69, just straight to FS. The girl was def hot. Pretty face and great body. But service was meh for the price. I didn't make sure what service was provided with booker. I assumed all Seoul is GFE but I guess not. Girl was HOT but I think 240 K is too much for mediocre service. If it was 200 K I would recommend.
I was trying to book a girl from Bohemian. But takes them forever to reply so I was impatient. Might still try them.
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You might be like the only one who doesn't want kissing and bareback! Hahaha
Pretty much kissing and bareback is like the ultimate dream service that most guys want cause its hard service to find as like you girls hate doing it but some do it out of necessity as if that's what the market or location they are working demands it. In US if a kgirl doesn't offer at least kissing she's pretty much out of business.
As for the nipple sucking thing. Its just a service item that all kgirls do. Heck even in korean movies in any sex scene sucking on each others tits is part of the rule.
As to this day I have never met any hooker who loved fucking us. So love might be too strong a word. I say don't mind the service.
[QUOTE=TokyoGuy01;1921795]If DFK means deep French kissing and bareback means no condom during sex then I wouldn't do that even if she offered. I don't like kissing them unless I know I'm the first customer. And I never do bareback with a working girl. Not sure if I could've done CIM. I usually can't last long when it's s new experience so I had to shove it in her box before I shot. And I'm older so shooting twice is hard to do.
But she did give a good BJ and seemed into the sex even though I didn't last long.
BTW, do all Korean chicks love sucking on a guy's nipples? I hate that but the fluffed and my chick loved doing it.[/QUOTE]
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I was thinking the same thing
[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1921199]No offense but those are some ugly ass hands.[/QUOTE]Those hands are something and what's in the bottle?
LM
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Benefits of exploring on your own
I see a lot of posts here asking if anyone here knows a good this or a good that. The problem is whenever anyone outs the great services to all the morons on the internet who only think with their little heads and pay inflated fees or tips, the rates start going up and we end up paying 120,000₩+ for services we could get for 70,000&; just two years ago.
I have been frequenting two places for the past seven months and you know I am keeping it under wraps. One hyugetel that is run by a fit older SP. You would never guess she had two kids because of how slender, sexy, and tremendously fun she is. The location is a bit out of the way but I get an hour long cat bath, AR, BJ, FS for 100,000. She even offers bareback, but I always decline (only common sense). When she is not available, I get a sweet 20 year old from the same building who treats me like her boyfriend coming back from the military. Cat bath, BBBJ, CFS, cuddling, and DFK (after inspection). Again, 100,000; for an hour or 80,000; for 30 minutes. Occasionally if I cum too fast, she even lets me pop twice.
Of course I know the day I expose them online is the day all my fun comes to an end. It will create more demand and they will raise their rates. Or even worse, some amateur will overpay by 200% and set a bad precedent for the market.
My point is to go explore for yourself. There is sex everywhere. If one place looks rough or they are overcharging, move on to the place down the street. Once you frequent a place enough and build a friendly business relationship with the SP you will get better service. And if you keep your mouth shut about it, we can all collectively keep more money in our wallets.
Some tips for HGT / KR / BBS:
(1) If you become familiar and charming with them, SPs will trust you over frequent visits and provide you with riskier service. They may also mention you to their coworker which may be useful in the future.
(2) Understand that this is a business. Repeat customers are great for them. Let them know that you will come frequently if they treat you well and base your relationship on that.
(3) Learn Korean. Even the simplest coherent sentence or compliment can be charming and can completely change the mood.
(4) Search near college cities for SPs.
(5) don't be afraid to travel around the city. The place I frequent is a 10 minute walk from a station I had never visited before. For starters, try subway stations that aren't on a green or blue line.
(6) Know the rates and be ready to walk away when you are being screwed over.
(7) If you like an SP, ask for her name and what days she works. Then ask for her whenever you visit.
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[QUOTE=LunchMeat;1922335]Those hands are something and what's in the bottle?
LM[/QUOTE]None of you would have noticed the hands without the flash anyway LOL.
That's her lube bottle.
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[QUOTE=SeoulSex;1922578]I see a lot of posts here asking if anyone here knows a good this or a good that. The problem is whenever anyone outs the great services to all the morons on the internet who only think with their little heads and pay inflated fees or tips, the rates start going up and we end up paying 120,000₩+ for services we could get for 70,000&; just two years ago.
I have been frequenting two places for the past seven months and you know I am keeping it under wraps. One hyugetel that is run by a fit older SP. You would never guess she had two kids because of how slender, sexy, and tremendously fun she is. The location is a bit out of the way but I get an hour long cat bath, AR, BJ, FS for 100,000. She even offers bareback, but I always decline (only common sense). When she is not available, I get a sweet 20 year old from the same building who treats me like her boyfriend coming back from the military. Cat bath, BBBJ, CFS, cuddling, and DFK (after inspection). Again, 100,000; for an hour or 80,000; for 30 minutes. Occasionally if I cum too fast, she even lets me pop twice.
Of course I know the day I expose them online is the day all my fun comes to an end. It will create more demand and they will raise their rates. Or even worse, some amateur will overpay by 200% and set a bad precedent for the market.
My point is to go explore for yourself. There is sex everywhere. If one place looks rough or they are overcharging, move on to the place down the street. Once you frequent a place enough and build a friendly business relationship with the SP you will get better service. And if you keep your mouth shut about it, we can all collectively keep more money in our wallets.
Some tips for HGT / KR / BBS:
(1) If you become familiar and charming with them, SPs will trust you over frequent visits and provide you with riskier service. They may also mention you to their coworker which may be useful in the future.
(2) Understand that this is a business. Repeat customers are great for them. Let them know that you will come frequently if they treat you well and base your relationship on that.
(3) Learn Korean. Even the simplest coherent sentence or compliment can be charming and can completely change the mood.
(4) Search near college cities for SPs.
(5) don't be afraid to travel around the city. The place I frequent is a 10 minute walk from a station I had never visited before. For starters, try subway stations that aren't on a green or blue line.
(6) Know the rates and be ready to walk away when you are being screwed over.
(7) If you like an SP, ask for her name and what days she works. Then ask for her whenever you visit.[/QUOTE]We're fighting a losing battle on this, but the best we can do is to continue giving these tips.
Things have become so bad that Thai and Filipina girls are flying over to Seoul for short holidays where they charge $200+ per shot to gullible punters. 99% of those girls couldn't even make that kind of money for an overnight back in their countries, but too many foreigners in Korea thinking with their dicks and not their brains.
Had a brief email convo with one that was advertising on CL recently. She quoted me $200 per hour. I declined. She countered by informing me her rates are negotiable (as always LOL). I told her what I expected from a $200 punt. BBBJ, CIM, multiple shots, all in the 1 HR. No response from her LOL.
Heck, even the white girls on MR are now offering sub $200 rates (170-180 k at last check), I won't be trying them out, but I hope this trend will carry on.
The more desperate and clueless guys act, the more expensive and shitty the service will be.
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Absolutely. The internet is mostly to blame for the state of the market.
The golden rule for everyone reading this is to never entice a SP with more pay. They should entice them with the promise of another visit. Whenever I follow through with that promise especially when I ask for them by name, the look on their face is priceless and they treat me like a VIP.
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Hooker Hill literally on its knees
Went for a daytime stroll on the Hill this holiday Monday and made some interesting observations.
*there is now a trans bar smack in the middle of hooker hill (along with the small collection at the top of the hill).
*counted no less than 4 vacancy notices on doors and windows while walking down. Strong chance trans might take over these.
*so many more "civilians" (particularly younger females and couples) walking up and down the hill these days.
*there are now more trans bars in the general area (international street, hooker and homo hill, the road that leads to all three), than there are bars with actual working women.
Looks like this may be golden times for those who are into trans women. I wonder where the women that regularly staffed hooker hill have moved on to and what they're doing now.
With the big USFK relocatioon coming up, are HH preparations being made for Pyeongtaek? Or are the women simply retiring / moving on for good?
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I'm telling you RLDs is a dying business.
With online business for sex workers and tech savy hookers and agencies and more professionals with higher income visiting.
RLDs days are numbered. Maybe 30 yrs ago when no internet and officetels etc it was booming but those days are gone.
[QUOTE=RainMania;1922901]Went for a daytime stroll on the Hill this holiday Monday and made some interesting observations.
*there is now a trans bar smack in the middle of hooker hill (along with the small collection at the top of the hill).
*counted no less than 4 vacancy notices on doors and windows while walking down. Strong chance trans might take over these.
*so many more "civilians" (particularly younger females and couples) walking up and down the hill these days.
*there are now more trans bars in the general area (international street, hooker and homo hill, the road that leads to all three), than there are bars with actual working women.
Looks like this may be golden times for those who are into trans women. I wonder where the women that regularly staffed hooker hill have moved on to and what they're doing now.
With the big USFK relocatioon coming up, are HH preparations being made for Pyeongtaek? Or are the women simply retiring / moving on for good?[/QUOTE]
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Day out.
Had the day off so I figured I would see what I could get. I called and texted a few of the hugyetels advertized on sadan but they all said they don't serve foreigners. So I figured I would check the hill. I went around 1 oclock in the afternoon. Only on SP was available but she looked to be about 50. Wet to 588 and walked around. Most places are closed. The few girls who were out were on the older / larger side of my acceptable standards. Luckily my regular was still there. She treated me well and I had a good time as usual. She said 588 will be gone by September. She plans to move to Miari as Cheonho will be gone in short order too. Yes, RLDs are on the way out. We need to stick to our guns on price of indies or we will be relegated to 200 k anmas. Granted those are fun, but that is 3 RLD girls.
Stay safe and have fun!
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Does anyone regularly visit Yeongdeungpo RLD?
I don't see much info on here about that RLD. Most seem to go to Miari Chenoho or 588.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;1922676]We're fighting a losing battle on this, but the best we can do is to continue giving these tips.
Things have become so bad that Thai and Filipina girls are flying over to Seoul for short holidays where they charge $200+ per shot to gullible punters. 99% of those girls couldn't even make that kind of money for an overnight back in their countries, but too many foreigners in Korea thinking with their dicks and not their brains.
Had a brief email convo with one that was advertising on CL recently. She quoted me $200 per hour. I declined. She countered by informing me her rates are negotiable (as always LOL). I told her what I expected from a $200 punt. BBBJ, CIM, multiple shots, all in the 1 HR. No response from her LOL.
Heck, even the white girls on MR are now offering sub $200 rates (170-180 k at last check), I won't be trying them out, but I hope this trend will carry on.
The more desperate and clueless guys act, the more expensive and shitty the service will be.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you RainMania! Like the guy said. The best places are the one you find it in your own! I also know good places, but I'm only going to share it only with old mongers here by PM! Otherwise all will be screwed. Good luck.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1923230]Does anyone regularly visit Yeongdeungpo RLD?
I don't see much info on here about that RLD. Most seem to go to Miari Chenoho or 588.[/QUOTE]I live near there. The girls in Yeondeungpo RLD are notorious for ignoring foreigners, but the streetwalkers on the back street (across from Lotte Department Store) are more accessible.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;1922901]Went for a daytime stroll on the Hill this holiday Monday and made some interesting observations.
*there is now a trans bar smack in the middle of hooker hill (along with the small collection at the top of the hill).
*counted no less than 4 vacancy notices on doors and windows while walking down. Strong chance trans might take over these.
*so many more "civilians" (particularly younger females and couples) walking up and down the hill these days.
*there are now more trans bars in the general area (international street, hooker and homo hill, the road that leads to all three), than there are bars with actual working women.
Looks like this may be golden times for those who are into trans women. I wonder where the women that regularly staffed hooker hill have moved on to and what they're doing now.
With the big USFK relocatioon coming up, are HH preparations being made for Pyeongtaek? Or are the women simply retiring / moving on for good?[/QUOTE]Doubt Anjong-ri outside of Humphreys will pick up the slack for working girls due to the Yongsan move. I think the good times are long gone.
I still remember how wild it was in 1980. I used to flip slides for the incoming USFK brass and they'd talk about the gonorrhea rate at the bars outside of Humphreys. Was estimated that 80% of the working girls in Anjong-ri had it then. In Itaewon, it was a mere 50% and the only times the Hill was deserted was on Korean holidays or the twice a year that USFK, in conjunction with Korean authorities, would load up the Itaewon hookers on buses, bring them to Yongsan and treat them for venereal diseases. Korean ladies have too much money to be street hookers or bar girls anymore. Curious why nobody posts about the bars outside the Humphreys gate. I assume most GIs now fly to the Phils to get pussy as airfare is cheap and a visa isn't required.
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Thai place in Suwon
Just wanted to give some info on a Thai massage place in Suwon (ingye-dong) that I and my friends have visited a few times. All the girls are Thai. You tell the manager what kind of girl you are looking for and he will try to accommodate. He doesn't speak English well, but there is a worker there that does. The cost is 110,000 won. You go to a room and your girl will enter with the worker. If you don't like her, he will bring in another. You get 30 minutes with the girl. After you are finished, another girl will come in and give you a legit massage for another 30 minutes. It is very easy to find. Get off at Suwon city hall subway stop and go out exit 8. Walk down a couple of blocks until you see a Angel in Us coffee shop. Turn left and walk about 3 blocks. On your left you will see a building that has 37 degrees on the front. This is the building. There is no sign for the massage shop. Just go to the elevator and go up to the 3rd floor. It is right there. The place only opens at night around 9 pm.
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[QUOTE=Koyangi;1923995]I live near there. The girls in Yeondeungpo RLD are notorious for ignoring foreigners, but the streetwalkers on the back street (across from Lotte Department Store) are more accessible.[/QUOTE]Do you mean across from Shinsegae? Where is Lotte department store?
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Well how was it then? Girls hot? Bareback? CIM? Good massage?
I mean shoot. If the place is a dump with ugly fat hippo sized chicks and mediocre massage. Why bother even going?
[QUOTE=ChickenDinner;1924310]Just wanted to give some info on a Thai massage place in Suwon (ingye-dong) that I and my friends have visited a few times. All the girls are Thai. You tell the manager what kind of girl you are looking for and he will try to accommodate. He doesn't speak English well, but there is a worker there that does. The cost is 110,000 won. You go to a room and your girl will enter with the worker. If you don't like her, he will bring in another. You get 30 minutes with the girl. After you are finished, another girl will come in and give you a legit massage for another 30 minutes. It is very easy to find. Get off at Suwon city hall subway stop and go out exit 8. Walk down a couple of blocks until you see a Angel in Us coffee shop. Turn left and walk about 3 blocks. On your left you will see a building that has 37 degrees on the front. This is the building. There is no sign for the massage shop. Just go to the elevator and go up to the 3rd floor. It is right there. The place only opens at night around 9 pm.[/QUOTE]
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No offense but these chicks you lowball seem retarded. Don't seem to know the market.
Every RLD, anma, offectiel, room salon girls I talk to all seem pretty saavy and know the market rate these days.
Your UTR chicks seem just lucky finds who have no idea what the market rate for their pussys are.
So I wouldn't blame the mongers who are overpaying but just luck that the UTR chicks you found are plain stupid and don't know the current value of their pussy.
So I guess good job finding these chicks.
[QUOTE=VancouverBoy;1923239]I totally agree with you RainMania! Like the guy said. The best places are the one you find it in your own! I also know good places, but I'm only going to share it only with old mongers here by PM! Otherwise all will be screwed. Good luck.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1924588]I mean shoot. If the place is a dump with ugly fat hippo sized chicks and mediocre massage. Why bother even going?[/QUOTE]Chicks vary has they only stay around 3 months at a time. I've never complained. The massage is good. Each girl is different. Some do CIM some don't. Some are PSE some are PSE.
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[QUOTE=PegInThePoke;1924400]Do you mean across from Shinsegae? Where is Lotte department store?[/QUOTE]Lotte Department store is above Yeongdeungpo Station at the head of a T-shaped intersection. Walk toward Shinsegae / Times Square and the RLD is the first street to the left, starting about fifty meters down. If you just cross the main street in front of Lotte and start walking left, though, near the end of the next intersection is where the foreign-friendly streetwalkers are.
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Does anyone know of really high end outcall escort services in Seoul? Specifically, my budget is more than $1000 USD per hour. I'm looking mostly for women between the ages of 18-22 who are part time students and / or models.
It seems like most of the outcall services advertised on backpage and other English language websites have rates which are relatively low (300 k Won / HR). I'm wondering if a more premium / exclusive service exists.
Thanks for the help.
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Don't fall for the hype
[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1924591]Every RLD, anma, offectiel, room salon girls I talk to all seem pretty saavy and know the market rate these days.
Your UTR chicks seem just lucky finds who have no idea what the market rate for their pussys are.
So I wouldn't blame the mongers who are overpaying but just luck that the UTR chicks you found are plain stupid and don't know the current value of their pussy.
So I guess good job finding these chicks.[/QUOTE]The value of pussy is what the punter is willing to pay. Desperate and clueless punters more often than not means ridiculously expensive and mediocre pussy.
The 200+ bucks you're paying officetels and anmas isn't going to the girls, there are so many costs involved, the girls would be lucky to see 40-50% of that money. You're paying for the environment and staff.
Officetel. Rent, utilities, manager's fee, kickbacks for the building owner / management, security.
Anma. Building rent / mortgage, utilities, staff, police kickbacks, security, owner / manager's cut.
Agency. Driver / security, fuel, manager's cut.
Essentially these girls are taking home 80-100 bucks per 200 you spend. If you go to one of those 130 k officetels, the girls get even less.
The ratio is the same for RLD girls, they take home 30-40 k per 80 you spend. The rest of the money goes on rent, utilities etc.
The real savvy girls are the indies who charge anma / officetel prices with almost no expenses. With the exception of security / driver (which very few indies in Korea have anyway), those girls are taking home 150-200 k for CBJ and one shot per hour.
I prefer my service providers to have a mutual understanding with me. We both want something from each other, and should be willing to work with each other to reach a compromise that best benefits both parties. A satisfied customer means more repeat visits, which means more money for the girl.
That is why I appreciate what I can get from RLDs. It's just more reasonable from my point of view. I'd rather have a 9 experience from a girl that is a 6 in appearance for 80 k, than have a 6 experience with a girl that is a 9 in appearance for 200 k.
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[QUOTE=Fubar45;1924949]Does anyone know of really high end outcall escort services in Seoul? Specifically, my budget is more than $1000 USD per hour. I'm looking mostly for women between the ages of 18-22 who are part time students and / or models.
It seems like most of the outcall services advertised on backpage and other English language websites have rates which are relatively low (300 k Won / HR). I'm wondering if a more premium / exclusive service exists.
Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]Hope this is a troll post.
This is exactly what the last bunch of posters have been talking about. Stupid people willing to pay thousands of dollars for an hour or 2. Indy prices will never go down when they see people like this.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1925064]Hope this is a troll post.
This is exactly what the last bunch of posters have been talking about. Stupid people willing to pay thousands of dollars for an hour or 2. Indy prices will never go down when they see people like this.[/QUOTE]Not a troll post. For some people, the difference between $300 and $1 k is inconsequential.
It seems like most of the girls who provide services for 300 k Won / HR are typically older than 22. I'm genuinely curious if there exists a higher end market for 18-21 year old (eg. University students who only do it as an occasional side gig or maybe even models). In some other Asian cities I've lived in, there is a way to access this pool of women.
I suspect such a market exists in Seoul, but they are only advertised to Koreans. Hoping someone can shed some light.
Thanks.
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I was in the area last week, so I figured I'd head over to Cheongnyangni to see how much it had shrunk since I reported about it two months ago.
One effect I've noticed is that some of the really hot, girls that work the prime hours were now more willing to be with a foreigner. I approached a few who I'd seen before, but never gave me the time of day. They were offering services, but at foreigner taxed up price. Some were willing for 100,000 and others wanted 150,000 and up. I had no problem with the $100, but no way I was going to pay more than that.
It was a super hot and humid night, so I declined as I know how long it takes their air conditioning to kick in, and I didn't feel like sweating all over them.
So, if some of you do end up over there, there definitely seems to be a bit more openness to foreigners now.
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The market exists. The girls are called 10 pro (top 10%).
You won't find that information here on this site.
If you're not Korean, cannot speak Korean, and don't have Korean acquaintances that indulge in the sport, then you're SOL. They are the only ones that can get you access, and even then not every Korean man can get access to legit 10 pro service providers regardless of how fat his wallet is.
Your best bet is the Secret Arrangement app and site. There are plenty of delusional girls on there that fit the profile of what you're looking for.
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Traveling to Seoul in the near future
Hello!
As you can see, I'm new to these boards.
Quick intro: I'm traveling to Seoul in November. I both look and speak like a native Korean. I'm also new to the hobby so I've been reading through this thread gathering what information I could to help make this trip enjoyable and memorable. To that end, I'm hoping I can be of some help to any fellow hobbyists that might be in Seoul around the same time. Hopefully, I can open some doors you might not have been able to access before.
After reading some posts here hinting at them, I've discovered several of those Korean bbs boards where services are posted and updated daily with SP availability. They are written completely in Korean and the hobby industry in general uses abbreviations and other jargon so heavily it could be difficult to decipher even if one reads Korean well. These sites host listings for a range of services including officetels, spas, anmas, room salons, kiss rooms, etc. However, for the rest of my post I will focus on officetels. Reservations are virtually always made over the phone so one must speak to the 'shil-jang' or guy in charge who will let you know whether a particular girl and time is available and when the reservation is made he will provide the location and directions. This, as well as the face to face meet with the 'shil-jang' before he tells you which room the girl is in, are likely the primary hurdles for foreigners and that's where I'd like to help!
Anyways, a bit more about those bbs boards. They vary in presentation but in all the ones I've seen the 'shil-jangs' basically copy & paste their listing across all of them more or less identically and update them on a daily basis. Some are rather simple: sign-up for free to peruse the listings and while these provide all the information you need to place a reservation what they seem to lack are user reviews. Then there are some bbs boards that have an intricate level-up system where long time members are rewarded with more options and incentives (basically games to redeem points for a chance to win discount coupons) and in order to level up you need to participate on the site, whether it be leaving reviews of your own or leaving comments in reviews you've read. Additionally, one can earn or win points by visiting the site frequently (some may find this system familiar as I've seen it used in many other Korean websites). This combined with discount incentives for repeat customers results in a lot of user reviews that one can peruse.
Which sort of leads me to my next point, some of the listings feel spammy -- similar in nature to those you'd see on BP or CL and as such they will make claims about a girl's age or provide images that say "100% real image" but on several occasions I've been able to recognize those images as crops of well-known celebrity photos with the organization's watermark plastered on top. You can imagine how that diminishes your trust of that listing. In contrast, some listings feel incredibly legitimate. The images don't stand out as fakes and the comments might be full of questions from members and you can see the listing's manager taking the time to respond to them, usually as a private message. Whatever the case, the user reviews are a lot more indicative of the quality of an SP. Some provide details not on a listing such as whether a girl is a smoker, has tattoos or provides other unlisted services.
So finally, I want to make the most of my trip and see if I have what it takes for a shot at the more exclusive side of Seoul's hobby industry. Building a rapport with these girls and their managers is key to gaining more access. If anyone will be in Seoul in November and wants to try their luck at an officetel, let me know! If you have any other questions, please ask and I'll respond when I can. For reasons that should be clear I cannot share site addresses publicly.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;1925190]The market exists. The girls are called 10 pro (top 10%).
You won't find that information here on this site.
If you're not Korean, cannot speak Korean, and don't have Korean acquaintances that indulge in the sport, then you're SOL. They are the only ones that can get you access, and even then not every Korean man can get access to legit 10 pro service providers regardless of how fat his wallet is.
Your best bet is the Secret Arrangement app and site. There are plenty of delusional girls on there that fit the profile of what you're looking for.[/QUOTE]Are 10 pro girls that's special to be so hard to get?
I wouldn't risk going through all the effort and wads of cash to end up with dud. Looks hot but with less than average BJ and clockwatcher etc.
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Strip club / tittie bar in Korea?
Is there any place where guys can go and look at women getting naked? Or at least with tits out? I've read the F forum but found nothing. I have tried google too. All I find is a high class high price show at Walker Hill. I am looking for something a bit more like in America.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1925555]Are 10 pro girls that's special to be so hard to get?
I wouldn't risk going through all the effort and wads of cash to end up with dud. Looks hot but with less than average BJ and clockwatcher etc.[/QUOTE]From what I've been able to discern, the places that claim to have the 10% girls will use the room salon style system. They will rotate girls in and out of the room over the course of your room's time allotment and you can choose a girl or ask for a new rotation.
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[QUOTE=Koyangi;1924850]Lotte Department store is above Yeongdeungpo Station at the head of a T-shaped intersection. Walk toward Shinsegae / Times Square and the RLD is the first street to the left, starting about fifty meters down. If you just cross the main street in front of Lotte and start walking left, though, near the end of the next intersection is where the foreign-friendly streetwalkers are.[/QUOTE]But its not foreigner friendly I think. Near by main road side, you can see on singing room in basement floor, where you you can get some gals for drinking singing and make a quick shot!
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1925555]Are 10 pro girls that's special to be so hard to get?
I wouldn't risk going through all the effort and wads of cash to end up with dud. Looks hot but with less than average BJ and clockwatcher etc.[/QUOTE]Supposedly, 10 pros aren't in it for the "money".
Their motivation is the opportunities and networking options their clients can offer. These girls are the ultimate social climbers, they know how to milk whatever they want from their admirers with ruthless efficiency. Cars, homes, businesses, bank accounts, marriages, you name it, they've probably got one sponsor for each.
I'd say I personally don't know any 10 pros, but I've met my fair share of pretenders, and I've heard more than enough stories of this businessman pouring tens of thousands on one girl. Not for me thank you.
The pussy and service is most probably on point, and like I said earlier, the value of pussy is what the punter is willing to pay. In my view, no pussy can be worth that much, especially when there are millions of comparable pussies just like it worldwide.
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Happy Days
Has anybody seen Kay from Happy Days lately?
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Almost a year and no luck.
Been here almost a year and it's killing me. Where in Songtan or Suwon can I find a place to get a massage and BJ or HJ? Can someone PM me some spots. There's two Thai massage places in Songtan that I've been to that seem to just give just straight up massages without extras. I've been there multiple times and haven't gotten any kind of hint. Just really strong massages which is good for people who just want a massage.
I've been approached by SW in Songtan multiple times but they are old, hideous, fat and will attempt to rob you. Guy I knew got burned for $900 by stupidly paying with his card. He still fucked her but she was ugly. Luckily he got his money back 100% by reporting it as fraudulent charges with bank.
Got a massage near Suwon station in a downstairs spot and wasn't offered anything extra. Got a subpar massage from an attractive girl maybe in her 30's. I had a strong feeling I'd get a happy ending but no cigar.
Went to three different massage spots in Myeongdong. Absolute shit. One was a weak massage in a room with other people. The second spot I went to had a man massaging me and I was fucking pissed. Thought the attractive girl who spoke English would be doing the honors but when I got to the room a man was waiting for me. Same thing happened at the third spot except I got led to a room full of other people and a man massaging me. Do not get massages in Myeongdong.
Is there something I should say at a massage place to see if they offer anything special on a hidden menu? I'm afraid to just ask them flat out if they give happy endings unless that's okay. I can't find the "double barber poles" anywhere really either.
I don't even want to get started on how overpriced the backpage working girls are. If someone knows of the secret "officetels" that would be great. I don't want to pay more than 200.
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[QUOTE=SesameOil;1925554]Hello!
As you can see, I'm new to these boards.
Quick intro: I'm traveling to Seoul in November. I both look and speak like a native Korean. I'm also new to the hobby so I've been reading through this thread gathering what information I could to help make this trip enjoyable and memorable. To that end, I'm hoping I can be of some help to any fellow hobbyists that might be in Seoul around the same time. Hopefully, I can open some doors you might not have been able to access before.
After reading some posts here hinting at them, I've discovered several of those Korean bbs boards where services are posted and updated daily with SP availability. They are written completely in Korean and the hobby industry in general uses abbreviations and other jargon so heavily it could be difficult to decipher even if one reads Korean well. These sites host listings for a range of services including officetels, spas, anmas, room salons, kiss rooms, etc. However, for the rest of my post I will focus on officetels. Reservations are virtually always made over the phone so one must speak to the 'shil-jang' or guy in charge who will let you know whether a particular girl and time is available and when the reservation is made he will provide the location and directions. This, as well as the face to face meet with the 'shil-jang' before he tells you which room the girl is in, are likely the primary hurdles for foreigners and that's where I'd like to help!.[/QUOTE][blue]===============================================
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[QUOTE=Facebook2;1928684]If someone knows of the secret "officetels" that would be great. I don't want to pay more than 200.[/QUOTE]Are you conversational in Korean? Setting up an officetel girl requires a reservation over the phone. Suwon is showing about a dozen officetels. As for pricing, most places will be 130,000 + at for 1 hour & 1 shot. Some places offer 90 minutes which start at 200,000 + at and 2 shots.
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ACE Anma
Went there yesterday and I don't speak a word of Korean, nobody at the front desk spoke English but showed me the price of 270,000 on a calculator. I pulled 220,000 out of my pocket and told them I would pay the locals price of 220,000 and they smiled and said no. I told them my money was going elsewhere. The thought of paying approximately $ 260 US up front with nobody speaking English could of been a disaster. For $ 260 US I can get 20 girls in Colombia.
You would think the Korean's would be a little more respectful of foreigners by not trying to gouge them, especially Americans who helped saved them from the North many years ago. I had no problems in Taiwan not speaking Mandarin but here in Korea its been a challenge. Will try Fish today or perhaps Hooker Hill and if I get the same treatment I'll be in Angeles City Thursday night and won't have to put up with the bullshit here.
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Fish Massage is not foreigner friendly
[QUOTE=Surfer500;1929057]Went there yesterday and I don't speak a word of Korean, nobody at the front desk spoke English but showed me the price of 270,000 on a calculator. I pulled 220,000 out of my pocket and told them I would pay the locals price of 220,000 and they smiled and said no. I told them my money was going elsewhere. The thought of paying approximately $ 260 US up front with nobody speaking English could of been a disaster. For $ 260 US I can get 20 girls in Colombia.
You would think the Korean's would be a little more respectful of foreigners by not trying to gouge them, especially Americans who helped saved them from the North many years ago. I had no problems in Taiwan not speaking Mandarin but here in Korea its been a challenge. Will try Fish today or perhaps Hooker Hill and if I get the same treatment I'll be in Angeles City Thursday night and won't have to put up with the bullshit here.[/QUOTE]Went to Fish Massage today which was a nightmare to find. At the entrance there was a sliding glass door and when it opened I was stopped by a bouncer. About 25 feet from the glass door there was a reception desk with two women behind it. One of the women in perfect English said I could not come in, that they did not accept foreigners, only Asians! I offered them 500,000 Won and they just said "sorry charlie". So I'm curious as to how they respond when an Asian from China or Japan is treated. Being an American you would think they would have a little more respect for us but who knows. Today I was in the "art district" of Saamziegl and found a massage shop that quoted me 80,000 Won but I wasn't sure if it included a happy ending and passed because there where only two MILF's working. If the Koreans are so "foreigner adverse" then it might be very difficult to have a good experience unless you spoke fluent Korean.
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Suwon Massage shops
There are not many HJ or BJ shops in Suwon. There are a couple in ingye-dong but are not very good. The best ones are in Yongtong. The best one I know is Chanel Massage. It is located behind the Home Plus. You can't miss it. There are many massage shops in the same area. Most of them give the same services. My top 3 are Chanel, SSun and Chunsa. All are 100,000 for 90 minutes. SSun does have a very cute Vietnamese girl working there.
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Ace Anma now is expensive, girls too much old, can't choose and just one girl; also it seems that they are doing us a favor by letting enter; I'm new here, I'm not an English speaking country and my English skill are not good, I'm better with Korean haha, but I can try to tell some experience:
Premium aromatherapy Thai, name jenny (backpage). A real scam, all fake! I asked about a course, professional massage and sex for 1.5 hours in my hotel room. The girl was not beautiful, belly fat and not a Thai girl! She didn't speak any English at all, she is Korean and of course speak perfect Korean. I don't know why, but I'm stupid, and I wasn't able to tell her go away. She didn't know about massage, no shower service, no 69, no kiss. After 30 Minutes of bad sex, she dressed quickly and left. Also she went two times to the bathroom to use the phone, I didn't smell good, so I let him go.
Jessie (backpage) 23, hey Jessie. Etc, she says is from Pusan. Again fake, fake pic, agency, different girl, not beautiful, no kiss, no conversation, robot. I paid for a rag doll? And she asked me about tip, after 25 minutes, crazy.
Ji-su (backpage and massage republic). OK, not everything was going to be so bad; she is the girl in the photos, young, gorgeous, and with an amazing body, much better than any girl I can see on the street in Korea; She doesn't care to fuck in any position, and it does really well, also good BBJ. But service was not like she promise. No kiss, no shower service, 69 (I didn't ask about, so I don't know), don't touch my face, don't touch my hair. Too "don't do this". As a good thing, she is talkative, friendly, and stayed with me the whole time I paid.
Good luck, guys!
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[QUOTE=Surfer500;1929057]Went there yesterday and I don't speak a word of Korean, nobody at the front desk spoke English but showed me the price of 270,000 on a calculator. I pulled 220,000 out of my pocket and told them I would pay the locals price of 220,000 and they smiled and said no. I told them my money was going elsewhere. The thought of paying approximately $ 260 US up front with nobody speaking English could of been a disaster. For $ 260 US I can get 20 girls in Colombia.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure ACE was the first place I ever went to in Korea for fun with an agashi, about 8 years ago. I too paid the foreigner tax, and I'm a gyopo. (My Korean sucked then, and it still sucks now, unfortunately.).
[QUOTE=Surfer500;1929057]You would think the Korean's would be a little more respectful of foreigners by not trying to gouge them, especially Americans who helped saved them from the North many years ago.[/QUOTE]On the other hand, I think there were reports of US soldiers assaulting SK girls. I'm not surprised at some of the Koreans' attitude towards foreigners. (Sorry for being off topic here.).
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[QUOTE=ChickenDinner;1929208]There are not many HJ or BJ shops in Suwon. There are a couple in ingye-dong but are not very good. The best ones are in Yongtong. The best one I know is Chanel Massage. It is located behind the Home Plus. You can't miss it. There are many massage shops in the same area. Most of them give the same services. My top 3 are Chanel, SSun and Chunsa. All are 100,000 for 90 minutes. SSun does have a very cute Vietnamese girl working there.[/QUOTE]Can you give a bit more detail? Do these places offer a full massage followed by a HJ? BJ? If the latter, is it a standard service?
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[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1929550]Can you give a bit more detail? Do these places offer a full massage followed by a HJ? BJ? If the latter, is it a standard service?[/QUOTE]Standard HJ service after the massage. Generally the massages have been pretty good. Chanel has the highest ceiling but lowest floor for girls. I've had some of my best times there but also some of the worst. Chun ji massage is the most consistent. Girls give good massages with a decent HJ but nothing earth shattering. I've only been to SSun one time. Got a massage from a cute Vietnamese girl in her late 20's. Very cute, good massage and very good HJ.
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So how much did you pay Ji-su? And how long was the service? 1 HR?
And what do you mean "don't care to fuck in any position"? So what she do just stand still and you fucked her standing up? Did you have to wear a condom? Did you cum in her mouth? If no shower then what you fucked her without making sure she was clean?
And found an ad but is she the one with red hair holding a piece of paper with her name? Or do you have a link to her ad?
[QUOTE=TitoSeoul;1929440]Ace Anma now is expensive, girls too much old, can't choose and just one girl; also it seems that they are doing us a favor by letting enter; I'm new here, I'm not an English speaking country and my English skill are not good, I'm better with Korean haha, but I can try to tell some experience:
Premium aromatherapy Thai, name jenny (backpage). A real scam, all fake! I asked about a course, professional massage and sex for 1.5 hours in my hotel room. The girl was not beautiful, belly fat and not a Thai girl! She didn't speak any English at all, she is Korean and of course speak perfect Korean. I don't know why, but I'm stupid, and I wasn't able to tell her go away. She didn't know about massage, no shower service, no 69, no kiss. After 30 Minutes of bad sex, she dressed quickly and left. Also she went two times to the bathroom to use the phone, I didn't smell good, so I let him go.
Jessie (backpage) 23, hey Jessie. Etc, she says is from Pusan. Again fake, fake pic, agency, different girl, not beautiful, no kiss, no conversation, robot. I paid for a rag doll? And she asked me about tip, after 25 minutes, crazy.
Ji-su (backpage and massage republic). OK, not everything was going to be so bad; she is the girl in the photos, young, gorgeous, and with an amazing body, much better than any girl I can see on the street in Korea; She doesn't care to fuck in any position, and it does really well, also good BBJ. But service was not like she promise. No kiss, no shower service, 69 (I didn't ask about, so I don't know), don't touch my face, don't touch my hair. Too "don't do this". As a good thing, she is talkative, friendly, and stayed with me the whole time I paid.
Good luck, guys![/QUOTE]
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I paid 240.000 krw for 1 hour, and she was with me the whole hour! After sex, she took a shower alone and we were talking (in Korean, but she can speak English) and watching TV; she insisted she had showered at home, and the truth is that his appearance was very clean. Yes, she is the one with read hair holding a piece of paper, although it now has blonde hair, I'm sure it is physically the same girl. Also the painting her toenails and clothes were the same as in the photos; her breasts are natural, big and really nice and body has 0% fat, but it's not a girl stick, for my perfect! Also she looks no more than 23-24, I think. Blowjob was very good, with strong suction and without condom. My mean is, I tried different positions, including some with deep penetration, and she didn't say no. I did't cum in her mouth. When I met her, she didn't offer CIM. Now I can see is a extra. For me she is a crazy beautiful girl, but I would not repeat, because she told me several times " don't touch my face! Don't touch my hair!" when I tried to suck her tits " nonono tickles me. Then I seemed comical, but now I think about and I feel stupid. I hope have helped you, and if you meet her, now you know that you could find. Although we know that each person's behavior is always different! Sorry if you don't understand something, but it is still hard for me to speak and write in English.
[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1929941]And what do you mean "don't care to fuck in any position"? So what she do just stand still and you fucked her standing up? Did you have to wear a condom? Did you cum in her mouth? If no shower then what you fucked her without making sure she was clean?
And found an ad but is she the one with red hair holding a piece of paper with her name? Or do you have a link to her ad?[/QUOTE]
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Suwon RLD
There is now a police station directly outside Suwon RLD, at the other end of A-row away from the station.
I've seen police harassing Korean males whenever they venture onto that street on several occasions (all 1-3 am), so if you look Korean be careful.
AFAIK, and from what I've seen they don't bother foreigners. Not that any of that matters since suwon RLD offer very slim pickings anyway if you don't look Korean.
And massage republic seems to have been invaded by an eastern european agency/pimp lol
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[QUOTE=TitoSeoul;1930155]I paid 240.000 krw for 1 hour, and she was with me the whole hour! After sex, she took a shower alone and we were talking (in Korean, but she can speak English) and watching TV; she insisted she had showered at home, and the truth is that his appearance was very clean. Yes, she is the one with read hair holding a piece of paper, although it now has blonde hair, I'm sure it is physically the same girl. Also the painting her toenails and clothes were the same as in the photos; her breasts are natural, big and really nice and body has 0% fat, but it's not a girl stick, for my perfect! Also she looks no more than 23-24, I think. Blowjob was very good, with strong suction and without condom. My mean is, I tried different positions, including some with deep penetration, and she didn't say no. I did't cum in her mouth. When I met her, she didn't offer CIM. Now I can see is a extra. For me she is a crazy beautiful girl, but I would not repeat, because she told me several times " don't touch my face! Don't touch my hair!" when I tried to suck her tits " nonono tickles me. Then I seemed comical, but now I think about and I feel stupid. I hope have helped you, and if you meet her, now you know that you could find. Although we know that each person's behavior is always different! Sorry if you don't understand something, but it is still hard for me to speak and write in English.[/QUOTE]In Korea usually most of the girls don't like kissing or touching hair, its hard to get DFK girls from business clubs.
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Fish?
[QUOTE=TokyoGuy01;1920143]So I just went to Fish and had a pretty good time. It's all fresh in my mind, so I want to put pen to paper before it becomes a blur. If you've never been before then I'll let you know what to expect.
Walk in and take off your shoes. You'll be given slippers to wear. At the front desk, ignore the the sign that says "No Foreigners." Pay your 220,000 and go downstairs. You'll be given a bracelet with a number and key. That is your locker number. Get naked and put your clothes in the locker.
Now you got to shower a bit. No need to brush your teeth or get really clean. I'll explain later. Dry off and put on a robe. Now you got to wait until they call your number. It wasn't busy when I got there, but I still had to wait about 15 min. They call your number but don't get too excited. Now you can choose what girl you want in a little room outside the locker area. Choose and now you got to wait again until your girl is free. I had to wait another 45 min, but I assume if your girl is free then you can go immediately. Have a free drink that's provided and wait..[/QUOTE]Where is this place guys? I'm only here to visit for a day. I want to spend good time.
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Wow! Seems great service at a reasonable price!
Thanks for the info!
So how much extra is it for CIM?
[QUOTE=TitoSeoul;1930155]I paid 240.000 krw for 1 hour, and she was with me the whole hour! After sex, she took a shower alone and we were talking (in Korean, but she can speak English) and watching TV; she insisted she had showered at home, and the truth is that his appearance was very clean. Yes, she is the one with read hair holding a piece of paper, although it now has blonde hair, I'm sure it is physically the same girl. Also the painting her toenails and clothes were the same as in the photos; her breasts are natural, big and really nice and body has 0% fat, but it's not a girl stick, for my perfect! Also she looks no more than 23-24, I think. Blowjob was very good, with strong suction and without condom. My mean is, I tried different positions, including some with deep penetration, and she didn't say no. I did't cum in her mouth. When I met her, she didn't offer CIM. Now I can see is a extra. For me she is a crazy beautiful girl, but I would not repeat, because she told me several times " don't touch my face! Don't touch my hair!" when I tried to suck her tits " nonono tickles me. Then I seemed comical, but now I think about and I feel stupid. I hope have helped you, and if you meet her, now you know that you could find. Although we know that each person's behavior is always different! Sorry if you don't understand something, but it is still hard for me to speak and write in English.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Edwin199;1930352]In Korea usually most of the girls don't like kissing or touching hair, its hard to get DFK girls from business clubs.[/QUOTE]Yes but no tit sucking?? Quite the rip off at 24000 an hour.
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CIM is extra 50.000 krw, I checked it in massage republic now.
Yes, is true!, Korean girls are different that European, maybe is normal. But in my country, just looking for a bit, I can pay half the price for a much more complete service and even more intimate, so I don't know exactly what is "GFE" , and why is too famous and they try to sell GFE like the best.
I forgot another important thing. I'm sure she is same girl, pics accurate, but I think she is not independent, because before meet we exchanged several emails in the same day, and I told she which is my country, and also I'll rent a hotel room just for our meeting, because I live in Korea. But when we met, the first thing she asked me is what country I am, and if I came to Korea for holidays haha she didn't know nothing about our conversation. Also I read a review in ***, and another guy says something similar. I begging to think that just 2 or 3 girls are real independents in Korea; if girl and service is OK, for me is not important, but usually it is a lottery, don't put your trust.
[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1930398]Thanks for the info!
So how much extra is it for CIM?[/QUOTE]
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Call girl service in Seoul
I don't understand why you guys are paying 240,000 for an hour, in Gangnam or any other love motel are in Seoul you can easily find call a girl for 150,000 won an hour (no extra for foreigner you just have to speak in Korean little bit when you are on phone call if you can't ask to the love motel manager they are helpful in that case), when you walk around love motel area at night you can see so many cards sexy Korean girls pic and phone number written on it are lay down on street, pic one and call, they are all from same agency, I have tried it several times but as other guys experienced in Korea, service is pretty much usually mechanical never been satisfied so I give it up.
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Seoul BP Girl
Saw ChristineChe on Seoul BP. Pics accurate (Looks 7, attitude 7, be cup, not shaved) doesn't live in Itaewon as advertised (took longer to arrive). Escort with car dropped her off on street and stayed in car. W260 k. Advertised DATY but not available. Outstanding BBBJ skills, but didn't get CIM (might have been available). Would repeat for W150 k.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1930481]Yes but no tit sucking?? Quite the rip off at 24000 an hour.[/QUOTE]Some girls show discomfort on sucking tits, usually girls allow to suck, if you go outside Seoul, service will be good, better to have a Korean buddy.
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[QUOTE=Dexter88;1930646]Saw ChristineChe on Seoul BP. Pics accurate (Looks 7, attitude 7, be cup, not shaved) doesn't live in Itaewon as advertised (took longer to arrive). Escort with car dropped her off on street and stayed in car. W260 k. Advertised DATY but not available. Outstanding BBBJ skills, but didn't get CIM (might have been available). Would repeat for W150 k.[/QUOTE]So many night life streets in Seoul, in evening you can see cards spread over this streets with mobile number, you can take room in love motel and make a call. Rest of the things depends on your luck!
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You're only making things worse
For the love of pussy STOP paying 200 K+ to get your dicks wet. 200 k for one shot with a girl who has an attitude problem, and who gives a 6 out of 10 service is a rip off.
If a girl says she wants 50 k extra for CIM, chances are she doesn't want to do CIM and is just quoting an outrageous price for any gullible goofball willing to pay for it, which will just be you jacking off in her mouth while she desperately tries not to vomit. A true CIM service should be the girl doing the work while sucking every last drop of cum from you. CIM is complimentary in Lip Cafes that charge 30-50 k for a BBBJ, why should a girl you're already going to fuck for 200 k charge you extra for it?
Another thing guys, if you're booking an indie or agency girl for 200 k+ for one shot (which you should not), why the heck are you booking the motel room? Are you deducting the room cost from her fee?
I don't know how many times we have to keep sending the same message. Take a stand and take your money elsewhere if you want services and prices to improve. Don't be afraid to explore the many different options there are for mongering in Korea, sometimes you'll score a gem, other times you'll fail and be turned away. But at least your pocket won't be 200-300 k lighter after one shot.
Stay away from agencies and unnecessarily expensive indie girls.
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[QUOTE=Edwin199;1931219]Some girls show discomfort on sucking tits, usually girls allow to suck, if you go outside Seoul, service will be good, better to have a Korean buddy.[/QUOTE]So therefore if they don't allow it then stop paying 200+.
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200 k +.
[QUOTE=RainMania;1931388]For the love of pussy STOP paying 200 K+ to get your dicks wet. 200 k for one shot with a girl who has an attitude problem, and who gives a 6 out of 10 service is a rip off.
If a girl says she wants 50 k extra for CIM, chances are she doesn't want to do CIM and is just quoting an outrageous price for any gullible goofball willing to pay for it, which will just be you jacking off in her mouth while she desperately tries not to vomit. A true CIM service should be the girl doing the work while sucking every last drop of cum from you. CIM is complimentary in Lip Cafes that charge 30-50 k for a BBBJ, why should a girl you're already going to fuck for 200 k charge you extra for it?
Another thing guys, if you're booking an indie or agency girl for 200 k+ for one shot (which you should not), why the heck are you booking the motel room? Are you deducting the room cost from her fee?
I don't know how many times we have to keep sending the same message. Take a stand and take your money elsewhere if you want services and prices to improve. Don't be afraid to explore the many different options there are for mongering in Korea, sometimes you'll score a gem, other times you'll fail and be turned away. But at least your pocket won't be 200-300 k lighter after one shot.
Stay away from agencies and unnecessarily expensive indie girls.[/QUOTE]I agree! Please guys stop paying that ridiculous amount for one shot! I understand for those who are coming to Korea for a few days or a week business trip to pay that, but not for the ones that are living in Korea! You will ruin everything for the rest of us! WTF?
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[QUOTE=SesameOil;1925554]Hello!
As you can see, I'm new to these boards.
Quick intro: I'm traveling to Seoul in November. I both look and speak like a native Korean. I'm also new to the hobby so I've been reading through this thread gathering what information I could to help make this trip enjoyable and memorable. To that end, I'm hoping I can be of some help to any fellow hobbyists that might be in Seoul around the same time. Hopefully, I can open some doors you might not have been able to access before.
After reading some posts here hinting at them, I've discovered several of those Korean bbs boards where services are posted and updated daily with SP availability. They are written completely in Korean and the hobby industry in general uses abbreviations and other jargon so heavily it could be difficult to decipher even if one reads Korean well. These sites host listings for a range of services including officetels, spas, anmas, room salons, kiss rooms, etc. However, for the rest of my post I will focus on officetels. Reservations are virtually always made over the phone so one must speak to the 'shil-jang' or guy in charge who will let you know whether a particular girl and time is available and when the reservation is made he will provide the location and directions. This, as well as the face to face meet with the 'shil-jang' before he tells you which room the girl is in, are likely the primary hurdles for foreigners and that's where I'd like to help!
Anyways, a bit more about those bbs boards. They vary in presentation but in all the ones I've seen the 'shil-jangs' basically copy & paste their listing across all of them more or less identically and update them on a daily basis. Some are rather simple: sign-up for free to peruse the listings and while these provide all the information you need to place a reservation what they seem to lack are user reviews. Then there are some bbs boards that have an intricate level-up system where long time members are rewarded with more options and incentives (basically games to redeem points for a chance to win discount coupons) and in order to level up you need to participate on the site, whether it be leaving reviews of your own or leaving comments in reviews you've read. Additionally, one can earn or win points by visiting the site frequently (some may find this system familiar as I've seen it used in many other Korean websites). This combined with discount incentives for repeat customers results in a lot of user reviews that one can peruse.
Which sort of leads me to my next point, some of the listings feel spammy -- similar in nature to those you'd see on BP or CL and as such they will make claims about a girl's age or provide images that say "100% real image" but on several occasions I've been able to recognize those images as crops of well-known celebrity photos with the organization's watermark plastered on top. You can imagine how that diminishes your trust of that listing. In contrast, some listings feel incredibly legitimate. The images don't stand out as fakes and the comments might be full of questions from members and you can see the listing's manager taking the time to respond to them, usually as a private message. Whatever the case, the user reviews are a lot more indicative of the quality of an SP. Some provide details not on a listing such as whether a girl is a smoker, has tattoos or provides other unlisted services.
So finally, I want to make the most of my trip and see if I have what it takes for a shot at the more exclusive side of Seoul's hobby industry. Building a rapport with these girls and their managers is key to gaining more access. If anyone will be in Seoul in November and wants to try their luck at an officetel, let me know! If you have any other questions, please ask and I'll respond when I can. For reasons that should be clear I cannot share site addresses publicly.[/QUOTE]Hi.
I'm planning business to Seoul around November. Would be great if we can coordinate info sharing / exploration. Unfortunately, you're status do not allow you to receive private message. If you're keen let me know and we'll figure out ways to communicate. Best if you can upgrade your status through contributions (as I did).
Cheers.
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I am going to travel to Korea for a few days for work and was wondering if someone has any sort of guide as to what the game is like in Korea. I don't speak Korean. Is there a guide anywhere as to how things work?
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[QUOTE=NewToTheScene;1931881]I am going to travel to Korea for a few days for work and was wondering if someone has any sort of guide as to what the game is like in Korea. I don't speak Korean. Is there a guide anywhere as to how things work?[/QUOTE]You are in the guide.
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[QUOTE=Ecchi;1931695]Hi.
I'm planning business to Seoul around November. Would be great if we can coordinate info sharing / exploration. Unfortunately, you're status do not allow you to receive private message. If you're keen let me know and we'll figure out ways to communicate. Best if you can upgrade your status through contributions (as I did).
Cheers.
E.[/QUOTE]Sounds good. You should be able to send me a private message now.
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Independent
This girl on backpage is trying to charge 300 k / hour, 600 k /2, for Outcall, plus transportation costs.
LOL I laughed at her after exchanging messages.
Do some of you really pay these girls that?
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Sucess on BP / Seoul
Hi,
Second trip to Seoul and 2nd success with BP. Which seems against the odds (must be my English charm).
1st was a tall slim russian back in January 16, who's name I forget, though I have not seen her advertise since (and I have been frequently looking).
2nd was tonight with stunning (I kid you not) Korean called Soda. 25 yrs, slim. Just perfect body, face, smell and taste. The photos posted on her advert are not real but close enough to give you an idea. In person, she will blow you away.
Agreed 230 kwon for the hour. Which I lasted about 40 mins (I dare you to beat this). She cleaned up and came back to bed for a lot more kisses and cuddles before leaving. All listed services tried (apart from massage), so, considering the other adverts and quotes I received, I would say a bargain was had.
I have had enough bait / switch idiots waste my time, as I am sure we all have, so I am writing to say that true gems so exist.
Amusingly, I have received a bunch of 'discount' emails from all the over-prices rejections I made earlier (as low as 200 kwon). So maybe playing hardball and waiting is the way to get the silly Seoul prices down (to at least Europe price levels).
Happy punting and I will write more as the experiences happen.
By the way, PM me if you want some advice on Dubai / Germany / Kuala Lumpur.
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[QUOTE=Dexter88;1930646]Saw ChristineChe on Seoul BP. Pics accurate (Looks 7, attitude 7, be cup, not shaved) doesn't live in Itaewon as advertised (took longer to arrive). Escort with car dropped her off on street and stayed in car. W260 k. Advertised DATY but not available. Outstanding BBBJ skills, but didn't get CIM (might have been available). Would repeat for W150 k.[/QUOTE]Hi,
I was going to book her but she quoted 280 kwon, which no matter how horny the pecker is, the brain said no (this time). However, 2 hours later, after refusal, she emails me saying 'huge discount today, 200 kwon 1 shot /1 hour).
So, she will go lower.
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[QUOTE=Tgovm;1932530]This girl on backpage is trying to charge 300 k / hour, 600 k /2, for Outcall, plus transportation costs.
LOL I laughed at her after exchanging messages.
Do some of you really pay these girls that?[/QUOTE]Sadly some do which sucks.
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[QUOTE=Surfer500;1929057]Went there yesterday and I don't speak a word of Korean, nobody at the front desk spoke English but showed me the price of 270,000 on a calculator. I pulled 220,000 out of my pocket and told them I would pay the locals price of 220,000 and they smiled and said no. I told them my money was going elsewhere. The thought of paying approximately $ 260 US up front with nobody speaking English could of been a disaster. For $ 260 US I can get 20 girls in Colombia.
You would think the Korean's would be a little more respectful of foreigners by not trying to gouge them, especially Americans who helped saved them from the North many years ago. I had no problems in Taiwan not speaking Mandarin but here in Korea its been a challenge. Will try Fish today or perhaps Hooker Hill and if I get the same treatment I'll be in Angeles City Thursday night and won't have to put up with the bullshit here.[/QUOTE]Check your privilege at the door and note that different countries have different cultures, economies, and attitudes surrounding the sex industry. Korea doesn't owe any of us anything.
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[QUOTE=LookingInrok;1932941]Check your privilege at the door and note that different countries have different cultures, economies, and attitudes surrounding the sex industry. Korea doesn't owe any of us anything.[/QUOTE]Its Korea, everything is expensive. 250-300 K is normal in top class area.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;1931388]For the love of pussy STOP paying 200 K+ to get your dicks wet. 200 k for one shot with a girl who has an attitude problem, and who gives a 6 out of 10 service is a rip off.
If a girl says she wants 50 k extra for CIM, chances are she doesn't want to do CIM and is just quoting an outrageous price for any gullible goofball willing to pay for it, which will just be you jacking off in her mouth while she desperately tries not to vomit. A true CIM service should be the girl doing the work while sucking every last drop of cum from you. CIM is complimentary in Lip Cafes that charge 30-50 k for a BBBJ, why should a girl you're already going to fuck for 200 k charge you extra for it?
Another thing guys, if you're booking an indie or agency girl for 200 k+ for one shot (which you should not), why the heck are you booking the motel room? Are you deducting the room cost from her fee?
I don't know how many times we have to keep sending the same message. Take a stand and take your money elsewhere if you want services and prices to improve. Don't be afraid to explore the many different options there are for mongering in Korea, sometimes you'll score a gem, other times you'll fail and be turned away. But at least your pocket won't be 200-300 k lighter after one shot.
Stay away from agencies and unnecessarily expensive indie girls.[/QUOTE]For the love of pussy. Don't berate us for not knowing the cheaper alternatives. Educate us and help us to help you.
No-one wants to spend kwon 200+ for an hour or so of (sometimes) pleasure. Though, I have not seen any clear guidance on this thread. And I have read the many pages of posts.
We travelers (sorry for generalizing) don't now Korean, don't look Asian. We are exploring and look to you for local guidance.
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[QUOTE=Surfer500;1929057]Went there yesterday and I don't speak a word of Korean, nobody at the front desk spoke English but showed me the price of 270,000 on a calculator. I pulled 220,000 out of my pocket and told them I would pay the locals price of 220,000 and they smiled and said no. I told them my money was going elsewhere. The thought of paying approximately $ 260 US up front with nobody speaking English could of been a disaster. For $ 260 US I can get 20 girls in Colombia.
You would think the Korean's would be a little more respectful of foreigners by not trying to gouge them, especially Americans who helped saved them from the North many years ago. I had no problems in Taiwan not speaking Mandarin but here in Korea its been a challenge. Will try Fish today or perhaps Hooker Hill and if I get the same treatment I'll be in Angeles City Thursday night and won't have to put up with the bullshit here.[/QUOTE]Not sure 'we helped you win the war' attitude qualifies for a discount!
Screwing foreigners (no pun intended) is a national past-time in every country and industry. Do you think a New York cabbie will give an English guy a discount?
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[QUOTE=Commco;1932596]Hi,
Second trip to Seoul and 2nd success with BP. Which seems against the odds (must be my English charm).
1st was a tall slim russian back in January 16, who's name I forget, though I have not seen her advertise since (and I have been frequently looking).
2nd was tonight with stunning (I kid you not) Korean called Soda. 25 yrs, slim. Just perfect body, face, smell and taste. The photos posted on her advert are not real but close enough to give you an idea. In person, she will blow you away.
Agreed 230 kwon for the hour. Which I lasted about 40 mins (I dare you to beat this). She cleaned up and came back to bed for a lot more kisses and cuddles before leaving. All listed services tried (apart from massage), so, considering the other adverts and quotes I received, I would say a bargain was had.
I have had enough bait / switch idiots waste my time, as I am sure we all have, so I am writing to say that true gems so exist.
Amusingly, I have received a bunch of 'discount' emails from all the over-prices rejections I made earlier (as low as 200 kwon). So maybe playing hardball and waiting is the way to get the silly Seoul prices down (to at least Europe price levels).
Happy punting and I will write more as the experiences happen.
By the way, PM me if you want some advice on Dubai / Germany / Kuala Lumpur.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. Good to know that there are diamond in the rough sea of BP ads. Also interesting info about getting discount from rejections. I do noticed how some of them will post discounted on certain date (probably none busy ones). Not sure if you're able to receive PM since your account is not Senior status (unless you paid?
If can, I would love to get tips on KL.
Happy to return favor for Bangkok and Saigon.
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[QUOTE=Surfer500;1929057]Went there yesterday and I don't speak a word of Korean, nobody at the front desk spoke English but showed me the price of 270,000 on a calculator. I pulled 220,000 out of my pocket and told them I would pay the locals price of 220,000 and they smiled and said no. I told them my money was going elsewhere. The thought of paying approximately $ 260 US up front with nobody speaking English could of been a disaster. For $ 260 US I can get 20 girls in Colombia.
You would think the Korean's would be a little more respectful of foreigners by not trying to gouge them, especially Americans who helped saved them from the North many years ago. I had no problems in Taiwan not speaking Mandarin but here in Korea its been a challenge. Will try Fish today or perhaps Hooker Hill and if I get the same treatment I'll be in Angeles City Thursday night and won't have to put up with the bullshit here.[/QUOTE]Wow dude. You should stick with PH and Angeles City. They still worship American there as you seem to prefer. Angeles City infested with some serious nasty looking hoes I won't touch even if they paid me to. Most of the rest of Asia has moved on and they will not roll out red carpet for you just because you're American. Again, stick to PH dude. Those ladies need someone to pay them money (and most Asians and locals with status probably won't touch them either so you'll be treated as saviour on top of being American).
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I am quite sure that 100% of BP girls are not independent, so is just luck to find a diamond by this way, because agencies sometimes send bad girls but sometimes good. I know people who repeated the same girl, and the second time they have sent another girl; I see normal, there is a lot of loose crazy people, and the girls need someone to protect them. Some agencies are more honest, and put pictures of girls who keep as closely as possible, but then the service depends on the girl. Sometimes the girl that you have seen is not available, so they send another girl because she is near or available; agencies will not stop making money, and take advantage of 90% of its clients are occasional visitors.
These days I'm researching Korean websites, and around 200.000 krw is not expensive if the girl is worth it, Koreans pay that price in officetel, for example. Base price 130000 krw + 50.000 at top girl (some agencies best girl is until 70000 at) + 20- 30000 krw extra for kissing or another extra. So final from 180000 krw to 230000 krw. If Korean people pay that, it is impossible for us to pay less for a young and beautiful girl. I've also been reading in Korean forums, and Koreans give great importance to the girl can provide a good conversation, so I think that intelligence also is included in the price.
[QUOTE=Ecchi;1933231]Thanks for the report. Good to
know that there are diamond in the rough sea of BP ads. Also interesting info about getting discount from rejections. I do noticed how some of them will post discounted on certain date (probably none busy ones). Not sure if you're able to receive PM since your account is not Senior status (unless you paid?
If can, I would love to get tips on KL.
Happy to return favor for Bangkok and Saigon.[/QUOTE]
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A local's opinion of price
Hello bros,
I am a newbie in here, but it is because I've been using Korean site and I didn't need information from here.
I felt curious about how foreigners would take Seoul, and I found 200 k / h or more.
In my opinion as a local, it is a bit expensive.
I never used BP, but often go to officetel, and as someone wrote, I pay about 130 k 180 k. So 200 k is 'a bit' expensive but not really much, compare to locals.
For most of non-Korean speaking foreigners, officetel should be a hard choice.
I think MP can be your good option. It also charges like 180 k or more. And if you don't speak Korean, they may charge a bit more.
In general, girls in MP are a bit older than officetel, but they provide great service. For example, almost all MP girls provide a-level.
And you can sleep in that MP, and it may provide your meal either if you want.
An easy way to find MP is, watching signs "50504;47560;.
You go in and if you find it a but luxurious, then it probably provides full service.
Because I've never thought about mongering for foreigner, I cannot give you any more information for now.
If you ask me something, I will try my best to answer it.
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I've been a lurker here for a bit and I want to contribute and do my part.
After viewing many pages, I haven't seen any mention of Good Morning Anma. I'm not certain of the exact location, but I do remember it's pretty close to Seolleung Station. If I go again, I'll make sure to provide better info.
As a side note, I am Korean American and was not charged a foreigner tax even though my Korean is conversational at best. My white friend was taxed 50 k. Also, I was allowed to change girls if the ones I got were not to my liking, but my friend was not allowed to. On a final note, they were really hesitant to accept my friend when he said he was Russian as opposed to American (he's Russian American).
Anyways, I've gone twice and it's been a hit or miss. The first time I went, I got myself a diamond. She was pretty tall, slim, shoulder length brown hair, natural be, flawless skin, etc. She said she was in her mid twenties and she looked the part. Her services were amazing and she had a great personality. Really made me feel comfortable.
The second time I went, I wasn't so lucky. There was this event going where we wore masks and were pulled into a room where all the girls where waiting. We were allowed to choose any girl that was available. After choosing mine, I was taken to a side room where the girl would give BJ for about 5 minutes. Then I was taken to the normal room. Service was pretty terrible though. The only thing she excelled at was rimming. She was good looking. I bit thicker than normal but I wanted to try something new. I guess that was my mistake.
Anyways. I'll try to go out more and I'll report anything that happens.
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[QUOTE=TitoSeoul;1933278]I am quite sure that 100% of BP girls are not independent, so is just luck to find a diamond by this way, because agencies sometimes send bad girls but sometimes good. I know people who repeated the same girl, and the second time they have sent another girl; I see normal, there is a lot of loose crazy people, and the girls need someone to protect them. Some agencies are more honest, and put pictures of girls who keep as closely as possible, but then the service depends on the girl. Sometimes the girl that you have seen is not available, so they send another girl because she is near or available; agencies will not stop making money, and take advantage of 90% of its clients are occasional visitors.
These days I'm researching Korean websites, and around 200.000 krw is not expensive if the girl is worth it, Koreans pay that price in officetel, for example. Base price 130000 krw + 50.000 at top girl (some agencies best girl is until 70000 at) + 20- 30000 krw extra for kissing or another extra. So final from 180000 krw to 230000 krw. If Korean people pay that, it is impossible for us to pay less for a young and beautiful girl. I've also been reading in Korean forums, and Koreans give great importance to the girl can provide a good conversation, so I think that intelligence also is included in the price.[/QUOTE]Good to know that there is some consistency in what we are paying.
I live in Germany, so the rates are on par with a decent SP from a reputable club. I know other Asian countries are cheaper but, in my opinion, Korean's are far prettier!
Pennies worth spend. Shame though that I have to limit the quantity in respect.
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[QUOTE=Ecchi;1933231]Thanks for the report. Good to know that there are diamond in the rough sea of BP ads. Also interesting info about getting discount from rejections. I do noticed how some of them will post discounted on certain date (probably none busy ones). Not sure if you're able to receive PM since your account is not Senior status (unless you paid?
If can, I would love to get tips on KL.
Happy to return favor for Bangkok and Saigon.[/QUOTE]I will upgrade later, not sure I will use the service enough to do it now (not a cheapscate honest!
In KL, I recommend Skyriver Spa (lots of 7+ and variety of nationalities). Pay 218 MR for about 45 minutes ($50), and I have had many good girls and only a couple of bad. Avoid the Chinese, do sample Laos.
Beach bar is OK but expect girls to literally hang-on to you. Be direct with them if you are not interested! Good variety and quality but hit / miss service. Don't pay what they ask as they will always negotiate. Best to go early evening for the best lookers or later for the better price.
Avoid pick-ups off the streets or in the main bar-strip. Personally, I didn't like the Vet bar opposite Beach bar.
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[QUOTE=Commco;1933505]I will upgrade later, not sure I will use the service enough to do it now (not a cheapscate honest!
In KL, I recommend Skyriver Spa (lots of 7+ and variety of nationalities). Pay 218 MR for about 45 minutes ($50), and I have had many good girls and only a couple of bad. Avoid the Chinese, do sample Laos.
Beach bar is OK but expect girls to literally hang-on to you. Be direct with them if you are not interested! Good variety and quality but hit / miss service. Don't pay what they ask as they will always negotiate. Best to go early evening for the best lookers or later for the better price.
Avoid pick-ups off the streets or in the main bar-strip. Personally, I didn't like the Vet bar opposite Beach bar.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info on KL.
Beach been there done that. Skyriber, checked that out last time, not bad. Curious why you don't recommend 'Chinese' there? I heard they sometimes have 'korean' but I tend to think that's not real ones.
I also tried hotels incall via websites like EZ. I must have knocked at 5 doors until I agent probably gave up and give me something good on my 5th try.
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Need Recommendation for BP girls
Can you guys please kindly recommend a few good girls on BP. Soda recommended by Commco seems to be a good choice but I hope to get a few more recommendations. Thanks a lot!
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Genuine BP recommendation
[URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/%EF%B8%8F-ji-yeon-%EF%B8%8F-25yrs-old-165cm-natural-c-%EF%B8%8F-beautiful-fit-body-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8Findependent-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8F/3811061[/URL]
After wading through a lot of crap and exchanging plenty of emails, I can attest to the fact that this ad is genuine. Girl was drop dead gorgeous and spent the entire hour with me. Service as promised with DFK & BBBJ but YMMV of course. Damage US $240 for a full hour.
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[QUOTE=Xiaopang1231;1933390]Hello bros,
I am a newbie in here, but it is because I've been using Korean site and I didn't need information from here.
I felt curious about how foreigners would take Seoul, and I found 200 k / h or more.
In my opinion as a local, it is a bit expensive.
I never used BP, but often go to officetel, and as someone wrote, I pay about 130 k 180 k. So 200 k is 'a bit' expensive but not really much, compare to locals.
For most of non-Korean speaking foreigners, officetel should be a hard choice.
I think MP can be your good option. It also charges like 180 k or more. And if you don't speak Korean, they may charge a bit more.
In general, girls in MP are a bit older than officetel, but they provide great service. For example, almost all MP girls provide a-level.
And you can sleep in that MP, and it may provide your meal either if you want.
An easy way to find MP is, watching signs "50504;47560;.
You go in and if you find it a but luxurious, then it probably provides full service.
Because I've never thought about mongering for foreigner, I cannot give you any more information for now.
If you ask me something, I will try my best to answer it.[/QUOTE]Hi.
By MP do you mean barber shop massage parlors?
I was offered a meal or tried to sleep there.
Usually there is a knock at the door after an hour or so to say time is up with the girl.
How are you eating and sleeping there?
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[QUOTE=Ecchi;1933701]Thanks for the info on KL.
Beach been there done that. Skyriber, checked that out last time, not bad. Curious why you don't recommend 'Chinese' there? I heard they sometimes have 'korean' but I tend to think that's not real ones.
I also tried hotels incall via websites like EZ. I must have knocked at 5 doors until I agent probably gave up and give me something good on my 5th try.[/QUOTE]Hi,
The Chinese in Skyriver that I tried (2) were robots. Didn't want to be touched, no foreplay, no kissing, etc. Ironic that they are the most expensive!
Laos girls were the best in my opinion, they want to please.
I have just landed back in Germany and have been told I need to fly to KL on Monday for 2 weeks. I will scout and send some reports to the KL thread.
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Soda
Hmmm. Sorry guys, seems I write the wrong 'standard' price for Soda. Her normal price is 230 US $ not 230 kwon. Seems I got a discount.
She is happy for the attention but asked me to update the report. Maybe if you become a regular then you might get a discount but don't expect it as standard.
My bad. Sorry.
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[QUOTE=Commco;1933074]Not sure 'we helped you win the war' attitude qualifies for a discount!
Screwing foreigners (no pun intended) is a national past-time in every country and industry. Do you think a New York cabbie will give an English guy a discount?[/QUOTE]It wasn't a discount I was looking for. I was insulted by them wanting to "up-charge"me.
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[QUOTE=LookingInrok;1932941]Check your privilege at the door and note that different countries have different cultures, economies, and attitudes surrounding the sex industry. Korea doesn't owe any of us anything.[/QUOTE]I have been to Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Japan, Singapore, the Philippines, and Taiwan. South Korea had the worst attitude of the sex industry I have ever experienced in Asia. I also generally found the South Koreans outside of the sex industry to be somewhat rude and arrogant with a few exceptions. The South Koreans dislike for foreigners / Americans has nothing to do with economies, sexual attitudes, and to a certain degree their culture.
I think it's very simple, the South Koreans just resent Americans, having to be dependent on the USA for their protection.
Just my take on things as everybody is entitled to their opinion.
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[QUOTE=Creman;1933830][URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/%EF%B8%8F-ji-yeon-%EF%B8%8F-25yrs-old-165cm-natural-c-%EF%B8%8F-beautiful-fit-body-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8Findependent-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8F/3811061[/URL]
After wading through a lot of crap and exchanging plenty of emails, I can attest to the fact that this ad is genuine. Girl was drop dead gorgeous and spent the entire hour with me. Service as promised with DFK & BBBJ but YMMV of course. Damage US $240 for a full hour.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update. Always good to see sliver of hope in BP. It must also be rough to be real indie amidst the tidal wave of BS agencies. I plan to tell my provider assuming they're like photo with good service that there are big communities of us online (without giving them URL) that share good and bad storied.
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[QUOTE=Commco;1933946]Hi,
The Chinese in Skyriver that I tried (2) were robots. Didn't want to be touched, no foreplay, no kissing, etc. Ironic that they are the most expensive!
Laos girls were the best in my opinion, they want to please.
I have just landed back in Germany and have been told I need to fly to KL on Monday for 2 weeks. I will scout and send some reports to the KL thread.[/QUOTE]I might be in KL around that time period. Not sure yet. If so maybe we can explore together.
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[QUOTE=Surfer500;1934168]
I think it's very simple, the South Koreans just resent Americans, having to be dependent on the USA for their protection.[/QUOTE]They don't seem to grasp the concept that they are be protected from themselves in the form of those whacko Koreans in the north. Then, too, their economic success is due in no small measure to the US allowing themselves to be taken advantage of in terms of foreign trade policy. Ask yourself how many Korean cars you see in the US (plenty) and then how many Chevies and Fords you see in Korea. (None) A foreign car in Korea would get vandalized at every opportunity. I would never buy a Korean product unless I was desperate.
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Let's get back on task.
[QUOTE=Pompetus;1934224]They don't seem to grasp the concept that they are be protected from themselves in the form of those whacko Koreans in the north. Then, too, their economic success is due in no small measure to the US allowing themselves to be taken advantage of in terms of foreign trade policy. Ask yourself how many Korean cars you see in the US (plenty) and then how many Chevies and Fords you see in Korea. (None) A foreign car in Korea would get vandalized at every opportunity. I would never buy a Korean product unless I was desperate.[/QUOTE]You know there are plenty of forums where you can spout off how much you like or dislike this country. Go there.
Keep this place on task. Let's talk about sex.
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[QUOTE=Pompetus;1934224]They don't seem to grasp the concept that they are be protected from themselves in the form of those whacko Koreans in the north. Then, too, their economic success is due in no small measure to the US allowing themselves to be taken advantage of in terms of foreign trade policy. Ask yourself how many Korean cars you see in the US (plenty) and then how many Chevies and Fords you see in Korea. (None) A foreign car in Korea would get vandalized at every opportunity. I would never buy a Korean product unless I was desperate.[/QUOTE]Foreign cars get vandalized here? Haha I think not. Koreans go ape shit for imports especially German cars. Have never seen an import vandalized etc.
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Sorry but I don't get the feeling you've actually followed Korean economic history
[QUOTE=Pompetus;1934224]They don't seem to grasp the concept that they are be protected from themselves in the form of those whacko Koreans in the north. Then, too, their economic success is due in no small measure to the US allowing themselves to be taken advantage of in terms of foreign trade policy. Ask yourself how many Korean cars you see in the US (plenty) and then how many Chevies and Fords you see in Korea. (None) A foreign car in Korea would get vandalized at every opportunity. I would never buy a Korean product unless I was desperate.[/QUOTE]Also, auto manufacturers have vastly different reputations even within Asia, rightly or wrongly. Korea / Japan, the perception remains that US manufacturers suck. Go to China and they think Buick is one notch below the Germans. And for the record, I have not seen people targeting foreign cars. But I have seen a guy key a car and then get his ass kicked.
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[QUOTE=Pompetus;1934224]They don't seem to grasp the concept that they are be protected from themselves in the form of those whacko Koreans in the north. Then, too, their economic success is due in no small measure to the US allowing themselves to be taken advantage of in terms of foreign trade policy. Ask yourself how many Korean cars you see in the US (plenty) and then how many Chevies and Fords you see in Korea. (None) A foreign car in Korea would get vandalized at every opportunity. I would never buy a Korean product unless I was desperate.[/QUOTE]Why would they import when they can just copy.
Plenty of Korean branded Germany copies (some are actually quite nice, though I don't attest for the quality!
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Yep
[QUOTE=VancouverBoy;1931606]I agree! Please guys stop paying that ridiculous amount for one shot! I understand for those who are coming to Korea for a few days or a week business trip to pay that, but not for the ones that are living in Korea! You will ruin everything for the rest of us! WTF?[/QUOTE]I would have to agree. The market is changing and some providers are just milking this bubble.
I've been living in Seoul for the past 15 years and prices have gone up through the roof but service quality is at an all-time low. Korean pimps are aware that Seoul's mongering scene is complicated and frustrating for foreigners. They know incall parlors ban non-Koreans and the worst part is. These agencies on B. P. are also the same incall parlors that will refuse service to a non-Korean, get them desperate and then charge them a way inflated rate as an outcall.
If you're like me and live here, just wait it out and hope for the best. I have one place that I go to and have been going to for almost 3 years. The managers all know me, know that I am a trusted regular and never give me any hassle. Even when they get a new girl, the manager tells her to treat me as a normal Korean customer. Even better. I pay the set price of a Korean customer but I never get the annoying 'hurry up' phone call, they always send me to their best (largest) room, and I get a BBBJ and a CIM every time. Downside is that it took me over a year to establish this relationship. But it's been good so far ever since. Is it a top-notch parlor with top 10% girls? Heck no. But it's not $250 either.
My advice, do what I do. I put that $250+ into a jar and every 6 months, go to Thailand.
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Chuseok
Anyone know if the red lights are going to be closed for Chuseok / Korean thanksgiving? I don't want to make the trip only to find that no gals are available. Happened to me last year.
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Chusok
[QUOTE=LundonFrog;1934901]Anyone know if the red lights are going to be closed for Chuseok / Korean thanksgiving? I don't want to make the trip only to find that no gals are available. Happened to me last year.[/QUOTE]The holiday is Wed-Fri. Some may. And I mean a slight "may" be open on Wednesday. Thursday = generally closed / don't bother. Friday, ID say about 1/4 of the shops would be open with minimal staff but don't count on it. If you're coming from far away, ID say, stay where you are and just go next week.
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Jinju Anma (Pearl Massage)
Belle is a great place but if you're looking for a decent massage for 50 bucks more, then consider Jinji Anma.
It's located near Sinnonhyeon station in Gangnam. It's directly across the street from the Novitel Ambassador. There is a road going downhill between the 7-11 and the Best Western. The shop in on your left. Look for the inflatable, lit up sign on the roadside (at night).
Warning: This place is open to foreigners and will not charge you a higher rate (unless they think you're a dick for some reason) but it is extremely tough to navigate without at least some basic Korean skills and your happy-ending service may be sub-par. See below.
Price is 130,000 for roughly 90 minutes. I've been there on slower nights and it was closer to 2 hours.
When you walk in, you must look to your left and there will be a lot of shoe lockers. Pick any one and take the key. This key will have a number on it and this will be your ID number for the whole night. You'll go to the counter on your right and pay. The guy will ask you in Korean, what number you have. When the bill in settled, you will be told to go into the lobby area / locker room. The locker room is situated in the back and will have full sized lockers for you to change. Your key number will correspond to the locker.
Get totally naked and step into the shower area. Wash your junk and change into the provided massage pants and robe. The robes will be on your left when walking out of the shower area. Yes, on a busy night you will be surrounded by naked Korean men. But it's no different than any sauna in Seoul.
Once you have showered and changed you will sit in the lobby area to await your turn. The lobby has tables, a TV on and the waiters will offer you a drink of orange juice or whatever they have available. If you do not like smoke, you're out of luck because the Korean men will smoke in here like chimneys.
The waiter will immediately ask for your key number. Again, knowing basic Korean will help. Once the waiter knows your number he will put you in the que. On a slow night, the wait will be one or two minutes. On a packed night, you can wait for up to an hour.
When the waiter calls your number, you will follow him into the massage room. You'll find a standard massage table and just lie down and wait. A woman in here 30's or 40's will arrive wearing a nice mini skirt. No worry, this is just the massage woman. She will give you a thorough massage for about an hour to 90 minutes. But just because she's the massage women doesn't mean things won't get a little frisky. At the end of the massage, she will start to work on your cock. A good one will rub your inner thighs and stimulate blood flow, getting your rock hard. This is a mild JuaGen for those who know what it is. It's nowhere near professional level JuaGen but it's something at least. Koreans call is "Chonlipson. " Some people just come for the massage (price is 80,000).
Once you're stiff and ready to go, she'll get on the phone and call in the service girl. The massage lady with usually stay and keep your dick hard until there is a knock on the door. The service girl will come in and take over where the massage lady left off. The service girl is in her 20's, some as 19. They are way prettier and some are pretty hot. These are the 'rules. ' You can touch (not suck on) her breasts, ass and legs. However, you must be gentle. No hard squeezing or rubbing. You are not allowed to touch her pussy, try to remove her skirt or kiss her in any way. She will take her top off exposing her breasts and suck you off until you shoot your load into her mouth. She'll clean you up and you'll be on your way. Back to the shower area, change, get your shoes (leave the key) and you're done.
Warning: Foreigners may not get much with some of the service girls. I have friends that only got a little bit of sucking and lubed HJ. But YMMV depending on the service girl. There can be as much as 20 on a weekend night. So you'll be rolling the dice. If you do get one that will only jerk you off, there is no use complaining. You just lucked out. I know it's bad and wrong but that's just the way it is here. This is not Thailand.
If you are Caucasian and not comfortable being a farang in a lobby full of Korean men, do not go between 10 pm and 2 am and not on a Friday or Saturday. This is their high time. Try going at around 6 pm or in the early morning at 3-4 am.
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[QUOTE=ShimShimhey;1934788]I would have to agree. The market is changing and some providers are just milking this bubble.
I've been living in Seoul for the past 15 years and prices have gone up through the roof but service quality is at an all-time low. Korean pimps are aware that Seoul's mongering scene is complicated and frustrating for foreigners. They know incall parlors ban non-Koreans and the worst part is. These agencies on B. P. are also the same incall parlors that will refuse service to a non-Korean, get them desperate and then charge them a way inflated rate as an outcall.
If you're like me and live here, just wait it out and hope for the best. I have one place that I go to and have been going to for almost 3 years. The managers all know me, know that I am a trusted regular and never give me any hassle. Even when they get a new girl, the manager tells her to treat me as a normal Korean customer. Even better. I pay the set price of a Korean customer but I never get the annoying 'hurry up' phone call, they always send me to their best (largest) room, and I get a BBBJ and a CIM every time. Downside is that it took me over a year to establish this relationship. But it's been good so far ever since. Is it a top-notch parlor with top 10% girls? Heck no. But it's not $250 either.
My advice, do what I do. I put that $250+ into a jar and every 6 months, go to Thailand.[/QUOTE]Yep, I agree buddy. Only it's not that easy to go to Thailand when your married! I tried to PM you but I couldn't!. Thanks anyway, if you want we can meet up for a cold nice beer and share our 'secrets'!
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[QUOTE=ShimShimhey;1935311]Belle is a great place but if you're looking for a decent massage for 50 bucks more, then consider Jinji Anma.
It's located near Sinnonhyeon station in Gangnam. It's directly across the street from the Novitel Ambassador. There is a road going downhill between the 7-11 and the Best Western. The shop in on your left. Look for the inflatable, lit up sign on the roadside (at night).
Warning: This place is open to foreigners and will not charge you a higher rate (unless they think you're a dick for some reason) but it is extremely tough to navigate without at least some basic Korean skills and your happy-ending service may be sub-par. See below.
Price is 130,000 for roughly 90 minutes. I've been there on slower nights and it was closer to 2 hours.
When you walk in, you must look to your left and there will be a lot of shoe lockers. Pick any one and take the key. This key will have a number on it and this will be your ID number for the whole night. You'll go to the counter on your right and pay. The guy will ask you in Korean, what number you have. When the bill in settled, you will be told to go into the lobby area / locker room. The locker room is situated in the back and will have full sized lockers for you to change. Your key number will correspond to the locker.
Get totally naked and step into the shower area. Wash your junk and change into the provided massage pants and robe. The robes will be on your left when walking out of the shower area. Yes, on a busy night you will be surrounded by naked Korean men. But it's no different than any sauna in Seoul.
Once you have showered and changed you will sit in the lobby area to await your turn. The lobby has tables, a TV on and the waiters will offer you a drink of orange juice or whatever they have available. If you do not like smoke, you're out of luck because the Korean men will smoke in here like chimneys.
The waiter will immediately ask for your key number. Again, knowing basic Korean will help. Once the waiter knows your number he will put you in the que. On a slow night, the wait will be one or two minutes. On a packed night, you can wait for up to an hour.
When the waiter calls your number, you will follow him into the massage room. You'll find a standard massage table and just lie down and wait. A woman in here 30's or 40's will arrive wearing a nice mini skirt. No worry, this is just the massage woman. She will give you a thorough massage for about an hour to 90 minutes. But just because she's the massage women doesn't mean things won't get a little frisky. At the end of the massage, she will start to work on your cock. A good one will rub your inner thighs and stimulate blood flow, getting your rock hard. This is a mild JuaGen for those who know what it is. It's nowhere near professional level JuaGen but it's something at least. Koreans call is "Chonlipson. " Some people just come for the massage (price is 80,000).
Once you're stiff and ready to go, she'll get on the phone and call in the service girl. The massage lady with usually stay and keep your dick hard until there is a knock on the door. The service girl will come in and take over where the massage lady left off. The service girl is in her 20's, some as 19. They are way prettier and some are pretty hot. These are the 'rules. ' You can touch (not suck on) her breasts, ass and legs. However, you must be gentle. No hard squeezing or rubbing. You are not allowed to touch her pussy, try to remove her skirt or kiss her in any way. She will take her top off exposing her breasts and suck you off until you shoot your load into her mouth. She'll clean you up and you'll be on your way. Back to the shower area, change, get your shoes (leave the key) and you're done.
Warning: Foreigners may not get much with some of the service girls. I have friends that only got a little bit of sucking and lubed HJ. But YMMV depending on the service girl. There can be as much as 20 on a weekend night. So you'll be rolling the dice. If you do get one that will only jerk you off, there is no use complaining. You just lucked out. I know it's bad and wrong but that's just the way it is here. This is not Thailand.
If you are Caucasian and not comfortable being a farang in a lobby full of Korean men, do not go between 10 pm and 2 am and not on a Friday or Saturday. This is their high time. Try going at around 6 pm or in the early morning at 3-4 am.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the detailed report. As for your advice on Thailand, the places I go to are not really that cheap either. Note: I don't go to the foreign catering joints like Cowboy or even MP on Ratchada. I usually go to small houses that offer HJ massage from students / race queen / OL types. These ones you can sometimes go all the way so it's like Belle with the chance for full intercourse. When the intercourse do happened, it can be something between 150-200 USD for the whole session so not that far off from the $220-250 in Seoul.
Just a note on BK from the expert there (I'm also senior contributor for local forums in Thailand. Flashing my cred a bit for perspective).
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Where have all the Korean girls gone?
I have to be honest, in the past 2 years, I haven't explored much of Seoul's after dark playhouses as I used to. Why? Fucking Thailand. Beautiful fucking Thailand. But on occasion I will venture out to Cheonho, Seollung, or Gangnam just to see what's new. Sadly, my explorations have had less-than-stellar results. The few new places I have found were pretty good but straight up refuse foreigners so I saw no point on reporting them here or on other forums.
In general, ID say that the industry in Seoul is rapidly changing. When I first moved here, there were at least 10 massage parlors within walking distance to my apartment. Now, there are two. The standard pay for pussy services have gone into Officetels. But! Recent articles have mentioned that Korean laws now can go after the landlords in addition to the agency operators. So Officetells are in trouble. So where have all the girls gone? (1) High End Room Salons. These will attract the wealthy clientele who can dish out serious cash. This cash is often necessary to pay brides or pay off authorities. A popular salon near my house got raided by the police. From talking with the dude at the 7-11 (who chit chats with the valets all the time), the place was raided because of the lack of proper liquor licensing. Yeah, forget that the girls in there sucked cock for cash! LOL. Within 2 weeks, it re-opened under a new name / probably the same owner. That was over a year ago and it hasn't been raided since. So if a girl is smoking hot, a job at a room salon is a no brainier option. A standard FS Massage Parlor gig is a waste of time. (2) Online. Many girls are switching to working as cam-girls because as long as she does not show any muff, it's totally legal. (3) There are also Korean forums and websites (similar to Backpage) where FLs can hook up with clients. (4) An increasing number of girls (those who are not hot enough to work in a room salon) go to Tokyo or Osaka. Ever seen a mid level Japanese hooker? Koreans blow them away. Other popular destinations include Sydney, Melbourne, LA, NY, DC or Vegas.
Sadly, the red-light fishbowl window shops are pretty much dead and gone (Yongsan's tearing down was a sad day) and the days of the upscale Full Service Anmas are dwindling. But I'm not sad. Why? Fucking Thailand. Beautiful fucking Thailand.
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Off Hooker Hill, on Usadan-Ro
Hi all,
Dec 2015 I was in Seoul on business. On the last day, managed to get out to Hooker hill. After walking up and down, and up the side street, settled on a girl in the bar on the side street (Usadan. Ro). Today looking at google street view, she may have been in one of the bars by ING bar or Peachphuzz bar. Not entirely sure. Her name was Mimi. 27 yr with a spinner body, around 5'0 tall, 90 lb. Probably the best looking one I saw that night. Got her a 2 drinks. We flirted for a while and then she gave me a pretty good PSE / GFE session. 2 shots, prob 260 k all together. Don't remember the exact amount.
In any case, I'm coming back to Seoul soon for another trip, and wanted to repeat the experience. Can anyone confirm she is still around?
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[QUOTE=Creman;1933830][URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/%EF%B8%8F-ji-yeon-%EF%B8%8F-25yrs-old-165cm-natural-c-%EF%B8%8F-beautiful-fit-body-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8Findependent-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8F-%EF%B8%8F/3811061[/URL]
After wading through a lot of crap and exchanging plenty of emails, I can attest to the fact that this ad is genuine. Girl was drop dead gorgeous and spent the entire hour with me. Service as promised with DFK & BBBJ but YMMV of course. Damage US $240 for a full hour.[/QUOTE]Can anyone confirm the report?
Saving this info for my business trip.
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I was in Korea a few years ago and loved it there. The prices were significantly better then though.
I recall in Incheon bus terminal the Shinsegae mall across the street was one of the best times ever:
Walked in, 80 k for a massage one shot. Introduced to a girl and I then asked to see the line up. The rest were horrible so I took the first one. Boy was she unhappy! Hahaha made it up to her later but we really clicked. She was Chinese and spoke it so it felt easier for her maybe. Anyways, it was all normal. Then I went back a little later in the week and brought her Chinese dim sum to snack on. Boy did that do it. Didn't even shower, not even disrobing. Jumped on me and gave me BBF's which scared the shot out of me! But it felt so good! So she became my ATF and it was BB each time afterwards.
Planning on heading back for a visit but at the prices that are now 3 x what they were. I'm a little hesitant.
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Recommendations for Seoul?
[QUOTE=Commco;1932596]Hi,
Second trip to Seoul and 2nd success with BP. Which seems against the odds (must be my English charm).
1st was a tall slim russian back in January 16, who's name I forget, though I have not seen her advertise since (and I have been frequently looking).
2nd was tonight with stunning (I kid you not) Korean called Soda. 25 yrs, slim. Just perfect body, face, smell and taste. The photos posted on her advert are not real but close enough to give you an idea. In person, she will blow you away.
Agreed 230 kwon for the hour. Which I lasted about 40 mins (I dare you to beat this). She cleaned up and came back to bed for a lot more kisses and cuddles before leaving. All listed services tried (apart from massage), so, considering the other adverts and quotes I received, I would say a bargain was had..[/QUOTE]Hi Commco,
Helpful posts.
Could you share with us the link or more info on SODA? I'm wondering if it's this SODA you Heading to Seoul soon. I'm wondering if it's this one: [URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-korean-girl-soda/3799324[/URL].
BP seems like it has tons of agencies masquerading as independents from the email replies I've gotten.
Thanks Mate.
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Going to be in Seoul next week for work.
Looking on BP. The prices are ridiculous! Is there anything decent for under $100 USD? Just after something for half an hour.
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[QUOTE=NewToTheScene;1937231]Going to be in Seoul next week for work.
Looking on BP. The prices are ridiculous! Is there anything decent for under $100 USD? Just after something for half an hour.[/QUOTE]Yup ridiculous that's Korea these days.
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And Sora maybe is also an agency. Look at this ad.
[URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-independent-korean-sex-girl-becky-will-wine-and-dine-you-lets-have-some-fun-together/3729515[/URL]
The content is identical to the Soras's ad, only change the hobby, snowboarding for surf, ect, and two things more. Becky has this review " by woolly – 19 Apr 2016.
This is an agency, and not an escort. You are not getting the girl in the pics. And the girl won't be 25. Girl was over one hour late too. Nothing against the girl who showed up (she was about 35). She was OK, good BBBJ. Advertise as an agency please, and not as an individual. I would give a 3 star review because the girl who came was good at what she does, but, 1 star deduction for being over an hour late".
What I mean is that it is just luck. Agencies sometimes send you a diamond and maybe Sora is one of them, but. Next time you'll meet Sora? Or another girl from same agency, like Becky. Or maybe just she copied the ad. I'm not sure, just want to provide information!
[QUOTE=Caspi;1937203]Hi Commco,
Helpful posts.
Could you share with us the link or more info on SODA? I'm wondering if it's this SODA you Heading to Seoul soon. I'm wondering if it's this one: [URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-korean-girl-soda/3799324[/URL].
BP seems like it has tons of agencies masquerading as independents from the email replies I've gotten.
Thanks Mate.[/QUOTE]
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Red lights
Can someone tell me what red light districts are still active? I wasn't aware that 588 was being dismantled. Are Cheonho and Miari still up and running? They were my go-to's for a BB FS session.
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I'd love to try out a kiss bang. I'll be staying near Sindorim, is there anything nearby?
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Under 100
[QUOTE=NewToTheScene;1937231]Going to be in Seoul next week for work.
Looking on BP. The prices are ridiculous! Is there anything decent for under $100 USD? Just after something for half an hour.[/QUOTE]The only thing available for under 100 is a HJ. Even a full service with a MILF Ajooma will be over 100 these days.
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Spent a lot of time emailing and trying to figure out who's fake vs real independent. It's really hard though.
[URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/independent-anna-available-tonight-24/3829447[/URL]
This one gave me pictures of a Korean actress and insisted she just looks like her.
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[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;1938256]The only thing available for under 100 is a HJ. Even a full service with a MILF Ajooma will be over 100 these days.[/QUOTE]Nah. Barbershops, (some) sports massage joints, and RLDs are still in the 70,000 KRW range. Lip cafes and kiss bangs are cheaper still. I agree with the sentiment that Korea is overpriced and that it will be, for most visitors and unadventurous seekers, in the price range you quoted. Let's not lead the whole forum astray in thinking that that's the minimum price for any action, though.
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I'll be going to Seoul in less than 24 hours!
Where are the kiss bangs located?
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Bad luck with he massages lately
I had some bad luck with happy ending massage parlors lately. And then I had bad luck writing about them here. I had a lengthy and detailed post, but when I clicked submit, I had timed out and all my words went bye-bye. This time I will keep it brief.
I have a theory that Korean he massage places are all populated by women older than myself. Fine women no doubt. Just not my personal choice for a he. So based on what I read here and on another site I thought that Thai and Chinese places were the way to go. Boy was I wrong.
1) [URL]http://dmaps.kr/2bvgs[/URL] 5th or 6th floor of this building (photo is old). Thai massage. 30-something masseuse. No he offered or hinted at. 60 k.
2) [URL]http://dmaps.kr/2bvhy[/URL] Close to Incheon airport. 2-something Thai masseuse. No he offered or hinted at. 60 k.
3) [URL]http://dmaps.kr/2bviw[/URL] 4th floor. Friendly 50-something Chinese masseuses. Went twice. No he offered or hinted at, nor wanted to be honest. Just a good honest massage.
4) [URL]http://dmaps.kr/2bvjo[/URL] 2nd floor. (Windows are no longer pink. Old photo). Bills itself as a Chinese massage place. Don't know if any Chinese work there. This was the worst disappointment. Was greeted by a 40-something lady in a spaghetti strap top, more busty than average in this country. Began to get my hopes up. When I came out of the change area I was led into the massage space by a man, who proceeded to give me the full one-hour oily rub down. LUCKILY no he was offered. Shudder. WTF? Anyway. Yes he had strong hands and gave a good massage, but I was beginning to suffer blue balls after all this he-free massagee.
SO! Where do I go for a reliable he massage with a woman who is not over 35 years old? I am sure there is enough knowledge collectively on this board to put together a good database of places. Being able to see & touch a bit of tit is sweet too. Let me know where it can be had. Bonus points for places north of the Han river.
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Yes
[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1938573]Nah. Barbershops, (some) sports massage joints, and RLDs are still in the 70,000 KRW range. Lip cafes and kiss bangs are cheaper still. I agree with the sentiment that Korea is overpriced and that it will be, for most visitors and unadventurous seekers, in the price range you quoted. Let's not lead the whole forum astray in thinking that that's the minimum price for any action, though.[/QUOTE]Yeah I totally forgot about Cheonho! 70,000 is a really good deal and there are still a few hotties there. Even though it's for 20 minutes with little to no foreplay, you can't beat that price.
I haven't seen any sports massage places that offer FS for 70,000 though. I know of a lot for 80,000 but a FS is either off the table or will push the price above 100 k. So far, I've never been to a kiss bang that offered FS without it being under the table and out of shop.
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[QUOTE=LundonFrog;1937528]Can someone tell me what red light districts are still active? I wasn't aware that 588 was being dismantled. Are Cheonho and Miari still up and running? They were my go-to's for a BB FS session.[/QUOTE]Cheonho is alive and in good shape. However, many girls are cutting back on the BB FS. You should definitely ask before stepping in. 'A Row' shops rarely ever offered it but 'B Row' and 'T Row' girls are starting to shy away from BB. 'C Row' shops (the alley that connects to the main street and runs straight to the back) are your best bet on Cheonho for BB. Yongdeungpo is quickly going downhill and only worth it if you're in the area. Miari is still running but the fish bowls are basically gone. Haven't heard anything recently about Ahyeon but last I heard it was on its last leg.
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Bohemian Escort
Well, for the 2nd time I tried Bohemian considering all of the good reviews. Both of the experiences were pretty boring and lackluster. The girls were cute, but not *that* cute for the price. Basically the girls act completely shy and unwilling to do anything and are rushed out of there ASAP. How they acted was the exact opposite of how the reviews described them. This leads me to believe that the reviews of these girls are totally fake or made by punters in hopes of a promised discount.
Sophie was the last girl I had- and she was friendly enough and nice. But getting her to do the deed was just such a hassle. I paid for 2.5 hours and couldn't even get her to put out more than once. We sat around and chatted and when I mentioned getting her to stay longer for extra, she just wanted to bolt out. (I am by the way relatively young and not especially shady or anything, IMHO). I just have gotten the feeling that the girls at Bohemian are very unhappy- and the "managers" are just typical K-pimps, feeding you lots of bull-crap and trying to up-sell you the entire time. (I paid for a premium girl with Sophie, and she wasn't close to what I'd call premium service).
Learning a little Korean (in order to visit officetels) is much better than ever using one of these escort services again. We are not only getting cheated, but I got the distinct feeling from this last experience that we are being burned. I would stay far far away from Bohemian Escort, despite the good reviews elsewhere.
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Welcome Shim!
[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;1939070]Cheonho is alive and in good shape. However, many girls are cutting back on the BB FS. You should definitely ask before stepping in. 'A Row' shops rarely ever offered it but 'B Row' and 'T Row' girls are starting to shy away from BB. 'C Row' shops (the alley that connects to the main street and runs straight to the back) are your best bet on Cheonho for BB. Yongdeungpo is quickly going downhill and only worth it if you're in the area. Miari is still running but the fish bowls are basically gone. Haven't heard anything recently about Ahyeon but last I heard it was on its last leg.[/QUOTE]Welcome to the forum Shim. I used to follow your advice on SBF a few years back.
Good to have you on here sharing valuable knowledge.
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This forum needs a sticky
[QUOTE=Ready81;1939085]Well, for the 2nd time I tried Bohemian considering all of the good reviews. Both of the experiences were pretty boring and lackluster. The girls were cute, but not *that* cute for the price. Basically the girls act completely shy and unwilling to do anything and are rushed out of there ASAP. How they acted was the exact opposite of how the reviews described them. This leads me to believe that the reviews of these girls are totally fake or made by punters in hopes of a promised discount.
Sophie was the last girl I had- and she was friendly enough and nice. But getting her to do the deed was just such a hassle. I paid for 2.5 hours and couldn't even get her to put out more than once. We sat around and chatted and when I mentioned getting her to stay longer for extra, she just wanted to bolt out. (I am by the way relatively young and not especially shady or anything, IMHO). I just have gotten the feeling that the girls at Bohemian are very unhappy- and the "managers" are just typical K-pimps, feeding you lots of bull-crap and trying to up-sell you the entire time. (I paid for a premium girl with Sophie, and she wasn't close to what I'd call premium service).
Learning a little Korean (in order to visit officetels) is much better than ever using one of these escort services again. We are not only getting cheated, but I got the distinct feeling from this last experience that we are being burned. I would stay far far away from Bohemian Escort, despite the good reviews elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Warning to all potential punters:
*If you have money to waste and don't care about service. By all means try agencies and indies in Korea.
*If you are looking for quality service at reasonable prices, or decent service at good prices. Stay away from agencies and indies that charge $200+ per shot.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;1939374]Warning to all potential punters:
*If you have money to waste and don't care about service. By all means try agencies and indies in Korea.
*If you are looking for quality service at reasonable prices, or decent service at good prices. Stay away from agencies and indies that charge $200+ per shot.[/QUOTE]Bravo! Well said!
I don't get these korean chicks who think they are hot sh.t. Either in the sex industry or not. Terrible sex skills but act like spoiled hot rich chicks who think they are all that when theyre not haha.
Giving the shy routine and tons of restrictions and running out the door as soon as they can for 200+ a pop. Ridiculous!!
If they had awesome bed skills then it would justify the price a bit more. But 80 percent skill don't even trim down under let alone anything else.
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Yeah. This problem would be avoided if this site had a review feature.
It sucks that site like this doesn't have one. Would make the site more popular and also generate revenue for this site. And would help us mongers out and weed out worthless girls and also really help the agencies and indys who are really good. And I would think drive the price down since reviews at this site would have some weight to hurt business or girls who are rip offs so they won't be charge rip off rates and / or providing better services.
[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1939533]Bravo! Well said!
I don't get these korean chicks who think they are hot sh.t. Either in the sex industry or not. Terrible sex skills but act like spoiled hot rich chicks who think they are all that when theyre not haha.
Giving the shy routine and tons of restrictions and running out the door as soon as they can for 200+ a pop. Ridiculous!!
If they had awesome bed skills then it would justify the price a bit more. But 80 percent skill don't even trim down under let alone anything else.[/QUOTE]
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Did you get your reviews from the US site ***?
Surprised you got duds if the rating from that sites from legit reviewers gave high marks.
You sure you didn't just read reviews from fake reviewers. Ie. Accounts with 1 reviews?
[QUOTE=Ready81;1939085]Well, for the 2nd time I tried Bohemian considering all of the good reviews. Both of the experiences were pretty boring and lackluster. The girls were cute, but not *that* cute for the price. Basically the girls act completely shy and unwilling to do anything and are rushed out of there ASAP. How they acted was the exact opposite of how the reviews described them. This leads me to believe that the reviews of these girls are totally fake or made by punters in hopes of a promised discount.
Sophie was the last girl I had- and she was friendly enough and nice. But getting her to do the deed was just such a hassle. I paid for 2.5 hours and couldn't even get her to put out more than once. We sat around and chatted and when I mentioned getting her to stay longer for extra, she just wanted to bolt out. (I am by the way relatively young and not especially shady or anything, IMHO). I just have gotten the feeling that the girls at Bohemian are very unhappy- and the "managers" are just typical K-pimps, feeding you lots of bull-crap and trying to up-sell you the entire time. (I paid for a premium girl with Sophie, and she wasn't close to what I'd call premium service).
Learning a little Korean (in order to visit officetels) is much better than ever using one of these escort services again. We are not only getting cheated, but I got the distinct feeling from this last experience that we are being burned. I would stay far far away from Bohemian Escort, despite the good reviews elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1939652]Surprised you got duds if the rating from that sites from legit reviewers gave high marks.
You sure you didn't just read reviews from fake reviewers. Ie. Accounts with 1 reviews?[/QUOTE]I am not sure. I got the reviews from ***. The reviews were often right about the look of the girls, but the attitude was way off and what the girls were offering. Reviews may have been my fake reviewers. But I also read that Bohemian was offering something like a 40,000 discount for posting good reviews. Such a policy seems like a double-edged sword fur us.
It's not just that I got a dud, but that both times were duds and that they were both terrible in the exact same way. Paying top-end prices for mediocre experiences = getting robbed, as far as I am concerned.
In my opinion, Korea was always kind of a rip-off with a few gems. These days the scale in which we are ripped off as increased 3 x and the possibility of finding gems has decreased. People make jokes about going to Thailand- but it's actually a better choice in every way. Shit, flying to USA Or Australia and getting a K-girl for the weekend would be cheaper and better. Or just sticking with your own game and picking up girls would be preferable. That's how I felt with Bohemian. Like I had just picked up a shy university girl at a club and we were on our first date where she didn't want to put out. Except I paid premium for that experience. Maybe that could be great for some guys, but not for me at this point.
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Independent European Anna
Found her on BP and decided to go for it since none of the agencies advertising were available during the day. Arranged a time to head to her incall location through email which she replied quickly to. Nearly canceled because I thought she looked too good to be true and could be another fake but then she proved me very wrong with an email of proof.
Made it to her spot and was greeted by a petite Russian goddess with a tight body in a dress. Very soft spoken, attractive accent and had nice relaxing music playing. Placed donation on the table and undressed. After we showered she had me lay down for a CBJ (not BBJ but I don't mind if it gets me hard) which went on for like 10 minutes. I then had her climb on top for CG where she almost made me pop 10 minutes in so I stopped her twice. Switched to K9 and could only last like 5 minutes before finishing. She cleaned me up and we showered again before she gave me a massage.
I didn't ask about a round two but I'm assuming multiple shots are extra. Overall a very good appointment and legit independent with real pics who does incalls. Perfect if you're sick of agencies or Koreans in general. YMMV. Damage was 230 krw for an hour.
My only regret is finishing too fast. I've never had that problem but she had a powerful pussy.
[URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/independent-escort-last-week-in-seoul/3831521[/URL]
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So I've just spent two days in Seoul. Here are my updates (sadly, not much help to you guys when I asked).
Kiss-bangs. Tried to find the one out of Exit 8 in Hongdae, looks like it's turned into a Thai massage shop (legit, and pretty decent massage!
Went to the other Kiss-bang out of exit 1, which is on the 2nd floor of a red building. Paid my 50 k, got screwed over because the girl (who was large, cute but not someone I would really find attractive) said I only get 15 minutes. What the? Foreigner tax.
So all in all, pretty disappointed with Seoul. I guess I'll just enjoy the eye candy on the streets instead.
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I guess its one of those YMMV sometimes the girls click and sometimes don't.
As for being ripoff. I'm coming from US prices and for me Korea is a bargain. Haven't tried bohemian yet but will probably check them out even though you had a medicore exprience.
Thanks for the info though. Now I will be cautious and when I talk to the bohemian booker make sure to make it clear the girl not only looks good but has good service and will cancel if she isn't and if the booker doesn't accept that terms will just cancel the appt all together.
[QUOTE=Ready81;1939789]I am not sure. I got the reviews from ***. The reviews were often right about the look of the girls, but the attitude was way off and what the girls were offering. Reviews may have been my fake reviewers. But I also read that Bohemian was offering something like a 40,000 discount for posting good reviews. Such a policy seems like a double-edged sword fur us.
It's not just that I got a dud, but that both times were duds and that they were both terrible in the exact same way. Paying top-end prices for mediocre experiences = getting robbed, as far as I am concerned.
In my opinion, Korea was always kind of a rip-off with a few gems. These days the scale in which we are ripped off as increased 3 x and the possibility of finding gems has decreased. People make jokes about going to Thailand- but it's actually a better choice in every way. Shit, flying to USA Or Australia and getting a K-girl for the weekend would be cheaper and better. Or just sticking with your own game and picking up girls would be preferable. That's how I felt with Bohemian. Like I had just picked up a shy university girl at a club and we were on our first date where she didn't want to put out. Except I paid premium for that experience. Maybe that could be great for some guys, but not for me at this point.[/QUOTE]
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Anyone seen Jiwon or Mihye from BP? They posted the same pictures so maybe they're the same person? It's the upside down pictures in the blue polkadot-ish bra.
[URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/independent-jiwon-23-years-old-looking-for-a-perfect-guy/3812489[/URL]
[URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/wechat-only-25-independent-outcall-check-my-newest-reviews-backpage-goddess/3836314[/URL]
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Been there, done that
For some reason, I wouldn't mind paying 220-260 ish for a good laid with a real cute young local girl.
Well. Having said that I have to admit that I once also tried so many mediocre agencies in the city and I found out.
What I get every night pretty much depends on the price I pay or how specifically I describe what I want to the guy on the phone (most of them don't speak English that well).
Bohemian Escort is definitely not the top-notch choice according to what I've heard from my friends so I never had to use it to test.
But every time I go other options like red-light street, some random officetel ones, I end up with my biggest disappointments (I don't like old Korean milfs!
They are not even early 30's in my opinion nor bit pretty, if you choose to go officetels the quality becomes slightly better as the price goes up slightly as much.
So still I'd rather stick to choosing a good honest agency, that will at least not send me fat old ones who rush, rip me off, well. I've tried a newbie lately (the guy speaks authentic English, almost native) called petite seoulescort ([URL]www.petitseoul.com[/URL]) this one's working out for me pretty fine even though it's been my only 3-4 times so far, I had the finest models every time, Nari and Hani are looking damn hot indeed and very much close to what I pictured.
I guess we all just only want a complete satisfaction, not the cheapest after all.
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1940847]As for being ripoff. I'm coming from US prices and for me Korea is a bargain. Haven't tried bohemian yet but will probably check them out even though you had a medicore exprience.
Thanks for the info though. Now I will be cautious and when I talk to the bohemian booker make sure to make it clear the girl not only looks good but has good service and will cancel if she isn't and if the booker doesn't accept that terms will just cancel the appt all together.[/QUOTE]You must be from the West / East coast lineup then, SK is almost 2 x the prices I can get back in my state. Granted, I don't have to worry so much about LE here in SK. I tried contacting Bohemian on two separate occasion when they first started out, but the booker was slow to reply and never completed the booking. I gave up after a bit, now their prices has jumped.
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Visiting the city soon.
Looking forward to the new adventure!
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1940847]As for being ripoff. I'm coming from US prices and for me Korea is a bargain. Haven't tried bohemian yet but will probably check them out even though you had a medicore exprience.
Thanks for the info though. Now I will be cautious and when I talk to the bohemian booker make sure to make it clear the girl not only looks good but has good service and will cancel if she isn't and if the booker doesn't accept that terms will just cancel the appt all together.[/QUOTE]What do you mean exactly? If you ask him " is the service good?" And he says "yes" then you'll agree to it? Of course- he'll say yes. After they have your money, then the tune will change. I don't know what you're talking about US prices. US has a wide variety of prices and quality. Korean services are all expensive and range from poor to mediocre. If you pay an agency in the IS 500 dollars, there's a chance you will be satisfied. In Korea, I seriously doubt it. And 500 is basically anything that's longer than 1 hour here, so. Give it 3-5 years, that'll be standard price for 1 shot.
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You work for them?
[QUOTE=Mark67;1941044]For some reason, I wouldn't mind paying 220-260 ish for a good laid with a real cute young local girl.
Well. Having said that I have to admit that I once also tried so many mediocre agencies in the city and I found out.
What I get every night pretty much depends on the price I pay or how specifically I describe what I want to the guy on the phone (most of them don't speak English that well).
Bohemian Escort is definitely not the top-notch choice according to what I've heard from my friends so I never had to use it to test.
But every time I go other options like red-light street, some random officetel ones, I end up with my biggest disappointments (I don't like old Korean milfs!..[/QUOTE]No offense, but you sound like you work for this agency. I know for sure that some of those images are fake as they are used by another agency, that I can't recall at the moment.
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Good, honest agencies do not exist. If they did, many of the experienced punters would be singing their praises.
If good agencies exist, girls that work for them would be getting more than the 80-90 k they receive from every 250 k+ the punter pays.
At least with officetels and anmas, we can trace and estimate the cost of the facilities, bribes and staff. What are the costs involved for an agency that charges the same rate? As you can tell from my post history, I'm not a fan of paying in excess of 200 k per shot, no matter how hot or young the girl is.
99% of agencies and independents charge you "per hour", what happens if you pop in the first 15 minutes? All you have to do is read the countless reports from unsatisfied clients to find out.
If an anma like Eve can provide a 3 girl relay service for 270 k, and a joint like jinju spa can provide a legit massage followed by a legit lip cafe experience for 140 k by two different providers, and countless lip cafes can provide 2 girl services for 70-80 k, how the heck can someone then see a mediocre BJ and vanilla sex with one girl for 250 k as value?
They may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I would rather search for a gem in a RLD or BBS than use an agency.
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VIP massage Gangnam
I can confirm below. Foreigner friendly and 120 K. My girl had a good body. She and the other girls I saw seems to be late 20's. No GFE services but nice and friendly.
You can access it from the corner of gangnam-daero at the first corner on your right exiting exit 5.
I'll probably return given the lack of options here in Seoul.
[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1892706]FS massage less than five minutes walk from Gangnam Station. Come out Exit 5. Make the first right and then the next right. About a quarter of a block down on your right, across from the see you, you will see spinning poles that say 'Massage' in both English and Japanese. Go up the steps into the building and take either the steps or elevator to the basement. The massage place is clearly marked next to the noraebang.
I was greeted by a guy who spoke a few words of English. He showed me to a small room with an attached shower room. Washed and waited about five minutes. In came a tall, slender, late-20's Chinese girl. She spoke fluent Korean, Chinese, and a smattering of English.
Small talk, brief massage, BBBJ, CFS. Damage: 120,000 KRW. More expensive than barbershops, less expensive than anmas. Not rushed, very polite and was willing to sit and chat afterwards. Got her Katalk / Wechat.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MrZ;1941173]I can confirm below. Foreigner friendly and 120 K. My girl had a good body. She and the other girls I saw seems to be late 20's. No GFE services but nice and friendly.
You can access it from the corner of gangnam-daero at the first corner on your right exiting exit 5.
I'll probably return given the lack of options here in Seoul.[/QUOTE]Maybe I should start hitting up massage parlor instead of BP. I'm a reviewer, if you want me to prove my "creds". As I notice some users' reply about not sharing. So, being the parlor virgin that I am, what do you ask for when you go in?
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Kissbang experience
I posted this report elsewhere but though I would share it here as well. Went to my first Kissbang experience. I don't know the actual name of this place but it will be easy to find with these instructions. The station you get off is Hongik Univ and you go out through exit 1. Take the escalators to the exit and turn right. You then take the first street on your right and immediately ahead you will see the building with the K signage at the top. There is a restaurant / bar on the ground floor. Go up the stairs and go right past another restaurant and past the spa to reach the Kissbang on the top floor. I didn't make an appointment and the guys there seemed slightly irritated. They told me to come back in about an hour so I paid a deposit and that is what I did. After brushing my teeth, I was led to a tiny room with a crappy sofa and waited about 5 minutes. Then there was a knock and this drop dead gorgeous 20 year old walks in. She speaks almost perfect English which indicates a talent for languages since she grew up in Seoul. Her name was something like Yoo-Jin or similar – very slim, about 5'7″ with shoes and be cups supported by a padded bra. She has only been working for about a month and said that if anybody ever recognized her there, she would just die. Other than glorious kissing, most things were off limits. You can touch her breasts but no sucking and definitely no wandering hands below. I was fine with that and just wanted the experience of going to a KB for what the basic experience is, which of course is kissing a hot student. For me, it was a great time and the time went so quickly. I asked her if there were any other Kissbangs currently operating in the Hongdae area and she said this is the only one she is aware of- she said that she is aware of one in Sinchon, the next station on line 2. Damage was 40 K for 30 minutes and I thought it was worth every won.
Hope this is helpful.
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3 Kiss Bangs
I like Kiss bangs so I tried 3 on last visit.
Best was MilKis in Sinchon area. Call for appt. (or have a Korean call for you if you don't speak) These are the numbers on their business card: 010 7751-3434 or 010-4752-7887. Had 30 min for $50 US w / Jenny. Sweet, young, pretty and OK English. Bare top and mouth on nips all ok. Good kisser. Mutual crotch touching over clothes. I recommend.
Worst was K-Plus near Hongdae Univ (see pic). Ugly girl. Little peck on closed lips was the extent of kissing. Went directly to upselling. I sprung for an alleged BBBJCIM but it was mostly a rough and muscular HJ. She complained I was taking too long. I explained she was hurting me and I wanted BBBJ. She would do 30 seconds of lackluster lip work then start torturing my poor rod again with her hand. Very disappointing. I ended up just leaving to escape. Awful!
My last night I went to Sillim area. There, look for signs that have big red lips on the upper floors of building exteriors along the big streets. That's your signal. They won't use the word "kiss" in the titles. Went to one in a building numbered 360 Sillum-ro. (see pic). Earlier in the evening I had met up with a Korean man and he went up there with me to explain what I want. I got a tall, lovely girl who I really enjoyed. No English so I don't know her name. 80 for an hour. Definitely worth trying.
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First time to Pearl
As others have mentioned here, Pearl is a massage parlor down a steep alley next to Best Western Hotel. Awesome experience. You pay the 90 K at the desk, get showered and changed into their PJs in the locker room, then led to a private massage room. First hour a middle aged woman in a tennis outfit massages the hell out of you, elbows digging deep and everything. Ends with a cool perineum massage to get your eqpt ready. Then a cute young thing comes in and drops her top. You can fondle while she gives you he. I've heard that locals will get BBBJCIM but as a westerner I just got manual. Still a great experience.
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Best western? A little bit more detail please. Is it the one next to Jinju Spa?
Or some other best western location.
[QUOTE=WildWind;1941459]As others have mentioned here, Pearl is a massage parlor down a steep alley next to Best Western Hotel. Awesome experience. You pay the 90 K at the desk, get showered and changed into their PJs in the locker room, then led to a private massage room. First hour a middle aged woman in a tennis outfit massages the hell out of you, elbows digging deep and everything. Ends with a cool perineum massage to get your eqpt ready. Then a cute young thing comes in and drops her top. You can fondle while she gives you he. I've heard that locals will get BBBJCIM but as a westerner I just got manual. Still a great experience.[/QUOTE]
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I'll make it clear if girl sucks will not repeat with them and write review.
Kgirl service in US incall service in US is same everywhere around 250.
Yes different prices for differnce services. But anything 200-250 should get you an above avg girl with good service. Anything above 250 your getting either screwed or alchohol is invovled.
[QUOTE=Ready81;1941111]What do you mean exactly? If you ask him " is the service good?" And he says "yes" then you'll agree to it? Of course- he'll say yes. After they have your money, then the tune will change. I don't know what you're talking about US prices. US has a wide variety of prices and quality. Korean services are all expensive and range from poor to mediocre. If you pay an agency in the IS 500 dollars, there's a chance you will be satisfied. In Korea, I seriously doubt it. And 500 is basically anything that's longer than 1 hour here, so. Give it 3-5 years, that'll be standard price for 1 shot.[/QUOTE]
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My bohemian experience
[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1940847]As for being ripoff. I'm coming from US prices and for me Korea is a bargain. Haven't tried bohemian yet but will probably check them out even though you had a medicore exprience.
Thanks for the info though. Now I will be cautious and when I talk to the bohemian booker make sure to make it clear the girl not only looks good but has good service and will cancel if she isn't and if the booker doesn't accept that terms will just cancel the appt all together.[/QUOTE]So my experience with Bohemian was really different compared to what you guys are talking about. I made 4 bookings through them, 3 of the 2.5 hours and 1 overnight. First girl I had was great and towards the end of the session even took me out to dinner (she paid for it too). Second girl is I believe 19/20 years old and we went for 2 rounds no problem. Third experience the girl looked like a doll, or k-pop girl just very very cute and sweet. Fourth experience was a repeat of the second girl and I had her for an overnight and we went 4/5 rounds.
For me things went very well with bohemian.
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[QUOTE=HTCBiggaBoat;1941987]So my experience with Bohemian was really different compared to what you guys are talking about. I made 4 bookings through them, 3 of the 2.5 hours and 1 overnight. First girl I had was great and towards the end of the session even took me out to dinner (she paid for it too). Second girl is I believe 19/20 years old and we went for 2 rounds no problem. Third experience the girl looked like a doll, or k-pop girl just very very cute and sweet. Fourth experience was a repeat of the second girl and I had her for an overnight and we went 4/5 rounds.
For me things went very well with bohemian.[/QUOTE]Sure, we get it. You're advertising your agency. She was a 19 year old k-pop star looking girl and she took you out for dinner. And she paid. Come on guys, we get it. You're trying to combat the bad reviews.
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[QUOTE=HTCBiggaBoat;1941987]So my experience with Bohemian was really different compared to what you guys are talking about. I made 4 bookings through them, 3 of the 2.5 hours and 1 overnight. First girl I had was great and towards the end of the session even took me out to dinner (she paid for it too). Second girl is I believe 19/20 years old and we went for 2 rounds no problem. Third experience the girl looked like a doll, or k-pop girl just very very cute and sweet. Fourth experience was a repeat of the second girl and I had her for an overnight and we went 4/5 rounds.
For me things went very well with bohemian.[/QUOTE]I'm afraid to ask the overnight cost haha.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1942059]I'm afraid to ask the overnight cost haha.[/QUOTE]$1,200 USD, girl was dropped off at 9:30 PM and left at 6 AM. Awake the entire time, she also ordered & paid for food delivery! I offered to pay for it and she refused. We went 4/5 rounds, it was a very enjoyable experience. Maybe its my youth & inexperience but I found the pricing of agencies to be pretty fair. I mean $220-$300 is the general per hour cost but you get 1 shot but its the overnights that they really shine when your hourly goes down to like $125-$150/ HR. I've traveled / lived in the mid-west and metro New York area so the pricing seemed alright. Its a little cheaper than what you would pay in Chicago (though no shot limit in Chicago), and a hell of a lot cheaper than my experiences in NYC.
I hate to say it but sometimes I think you guys are too cheap but again that's my youth (mid 20's) and inexperience talking haha.
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Can report that 588 is live and well, some booths scheduled FR demo but that's to be expected. 70 k 15 mins.
Itaewon: had fun with one, my buddy had another. He had a great time. All this was on the hill.
Itaewon massage. Big Thai place, not bad, got a BBBJ from the masseuse.
Can anyone tell me the location of BJ coffee bars (lip bang) in Seoul? Seems like an amazing idea!
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Well the fact you were paying for many hours they no doubt sent their best girls.
Its a business so they see you are willing to pay alot for multiple hours so to the girl and agency they want to send and be the best to get your business. Vs 1 HR booking guys not much interest to be the best since not alot of return in money.
Like always you get what you pay for.
[QUOTE=HTCBiggaBoat;1941987]So my experience with Bohemian was really different compared to what you guys are talking about. I made 4 bookings through them, 3 of the 2.5 hours and 1 overnight. First girl I had was great and towards the end of the session even took me out to dinner (she paid for it too). Second girl is I believe 19/20 years old and we went for 2 rounds no problem. Third experience the girl looked like a doll, or k-pop girl just very very cute and sweet. Fourth experience was a repeat of the second girl and I had her for an overnight and we went 4/5 rounds.
For me things went very well with bohemian.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1942130]Its a business so they see you are willing to pay alot for multiple hours so to the girl and agency they want to send and be the best to get your business. Vs 1 HR booking guys not much interest to be the best since not alot of return in money.
Like always you get what you pay for.[/QUOTE]Thats true. However the problem is you don't ALWAYS get what you pay for in this city.
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Different levels of girls existed too apparently
[QUOTE=KgirlPower;1942130]Its a business so they see you are willing to pay alot for multiple hours so to the girl and agency they want to send and be the best to get your business. Vs 1 HR booking guys not much interest to be the best since not alot of return in money.
Like always you get what you pay for.[/QUOTE]After the second booking and when I started to reach out and make a third booking the person I dealt with changed. Apparently went from the booking agent / driver to the manager / owner (not sure which). Once you moved up to working with the manager you actually got access to more girls. For example when I wanted to make my third booking I asked the normal booking agent and they said "We've got girl A, be, &see. ". The manager had reached out to me by that point and said "We've got girl A, B, C, D, & E. I recommend you pick girl E. " Something along those lines.
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[QUOTE=HTCBiggaBoat;1942061] shine when your hourly goes down to like $125-$150/ HR. I've traveled / lived in the mid-west and metro New York area so the pricing seemed alright. Its a little cheaper than what you would pay in Chicago (though no shot limit in Chicago), and a hell of a lot cheaper than my experiences in NYC.
I hate to say it but sometimes I think you guys are too cheap but again that's my youth (mid 20's) and inexperience talking haha.[/QUOTE]So you pay 1.5 million won, basically. If you are mid-twenties guy, it really seems not worth it.
But The issue here really isn't about price. The issue is, if you pay 400-500 dollars per session, you should get real service. You should get more than one shot from a girl who has some kind of skill. Not some feigned shyness from a university freshman girl. Sure we joked and laughed when we were together. So you are paying thousands of dollars to joke and laugh and eat chicken with a girl who leaves as soon as the time is up? Of course, the service is worth whatever you are willing to pay, But even when I was in my mid-twenties (early thirties now). , unless the girl looked and acted like a porn star, more than a thousand dollars for a few hours is just insane. Again, it wasn't the price- it was the feeling when you know you have been robbed by an agency.
And I have to emphasize again, the reviews of the Bohemian girls' behavior are just so unbelievable as though they were these ultra sex goddesses. - I have to repeat, when I met them, it was like same boring experience when you meet some K-university girl on a date. Except the putting out was guaranteed. Completely shy and not hot or into it except in the most generic K-girl actress way. . Oh, and they sent one of the girls on her period. So that was great. (they told me they were going to go pick up a special girl for me, and that was who they sent). The entire experience is just the epitome of the sketchy Korean business. But I guess it is an escort service, so.
My conclusion, and this isn't directed personally at you- but honestly, Bohemian is only for the most extreme Yellow Fever guys who *need* a K-girl at any cost, IMHO.
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[QUOTE=HTCBiggaBoat;1942061] I've traveled / lived in the mid-west and metro New York area so the pricing seemed alright. Its a little cheaper than what you would pay in Chicago (though no shot limit in Chicago), and a hell of a lot cheaper than my experiences in NYC.
I hate to say it but sometimes I think you guys are too cheap but again that's my youth (mid 20's) and inexperience talking haha.[/QUOTE]I hate to say this too but you guys sound jaded. I got Ashley from the agency for a couple of hours, and in my opinion, she was nice. I asked for Sophie and they texted me her face picture and she looked better in person. When I got Sarah for overnight, she paid for the taxi and booze too. Not all these girls are The Typical.
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Hooker Hill, Forest Queen
Belated report. Was on Hooker Hill on a rainy Monday night back in July. Almost nobody on the streets due to the bad weather. On the first pass up the hill, was surprised that no one was there at their doors beckoning me in. So did another pass. This time a mamasan at the Forest Queen saw me and called me in. The nice Vera wasn't there. Instead pretty skanky girl, Michelle was on duty. Knew I shouldn't have gone for her but was unfortunately too lazy to walk the hill again. Don't make that mistake. Get the extra exercise for a girl who will do you right.
Things started off on the wrong foot when my credit card was rejected by their machine. Only had 80,000 won in my pocket, so the mamasan said OK after initially asking 100,000. Michelle was not happy about that and the theme of the whole session was "you bring more money next time." So not only was she skanky, flabby, late-30's / early 40's, but was bitching about money the whole time. As a result, very little foreplay and she immediately went to mish. No other positions. When I couldn't cum due to being distracted by all of her money talk, she reluctantly went to doggy, where I was barely able to finish things off.
Moral of the story. Walk the hill till you get somebody who will be worth your time and money.
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[QUOTE=JunLove;1942288]I hate to say this too but you guys sound jaded. I got Ashley from the agency for a couple of hours, and in my opinion, she was nice. I asked for Sophie and they texted me her face picture and she looked better in person. When I got Sarah for overnight, she paid for the taxi and booze too. Not all these girls are The Typical.[/QUOTE]Weren't you just giving agencies a bad review, specifically Bohemian girls several posts ago? ("they are boring and smell like latex condoms, gross, always texting etc).
Sarah is different. That is a girl who paying 1200 dollars for extended session could be worth it. Bohemian are pathetic, dudes on phone are liars / slime balls, girls seem like they're getting 25% cut. Sophie was cute- but I was told she was " premium " and this had to pay extra (little did I know, it's bullshit and there are only 3 girls there, I just got robbed) . She arrived late, refused a second pop. (though I paid for it). I just can't stress the only thing going for Bohemian is that the girls are cute. And not all of them are cute either. Bohemian also sends fake photos. Sophie's photo was fake for instance.
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[QUOTE=JunLove;1942288]I hate to say this too but you guys sound jaded. I got Ashley from the agency for a couple of hours, and in my opinion, she was nice. I asked for Sophie and they texted me her face picture and she looked better in person. When I got Sarah for overnight, she paid for the taxi and booze too. Not all these girls are The Typical.[/QUOTE]Haha getting subpar service at ripoff prices isn't jaded. Its more robbed. And your food and beer wasnt free haha. Paying 1000 plus dollars for hours with her, paid for that 4000 won beer many times over.
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Ultimately its upto the guy if price is fare or not. For me bohemian is fare.
I've seen the cheap side at RLD and for me its just not worth the medicority anymore. You can argue theirs gems but to find that gem in all the garbage at the cheap rate just not worth the time and money.
And one more thing on Bohemian, since theres such different experinces among the posters one of them I assume is the Bohemian rep themselves. Both posters have such little post history and suddenly show up during bohemian discussions its highly suspect. Anyway, I will have to see for myself I guess.
[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1942419]Haha getting subpar service at ripoff prices isn't jaded. Its more robbed. And your food and beer wasnt free haha. Paying 1000 plus dollars for hours with her, paid for that 4000 won beer many times over.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Jimthom;1942387]Belated report. Was on Hooker Hill on a rainy Monday night back in July. Almost nobody on the streets due to the bad weather. On the first pass up the hill, was surprised that no one was there at their doors beckoning me in. So did another pass. This time a mamasan at the Forest Queen saw me and called me in. The nice Vera wasn't there. Instead pretty skanky girl, Michelle was on duty. Knew I shouldn't have gone for her but was unfortunately too lazy to walk the hill again. Don't make that mistake. Get the extra exercise for a girl who will do you right.
Things started off on the wrong foot when my credit card was rejected by their machine. Only had 80,000 won in my pocket, so the mamasan said OK after initially asking 100,000. Michelle was not happy about that and the theme of the whole session was "you bring more money next time." So not only was she skanky, flabby, late-30's / early 40's, but was bitching about money the whole time. As a result, very little foreplay and she immediately went to mish. No other positions. When I couldn't cum due to being distracted by all of her money talk, she reluctantly went to doggy, where I was barely able to finish things off.
Moral of the story. Walk the hill till you get somebody who will be worth your time and money.[/QUOTE]That sucks. BTW, when the credit card is rejected, my experience this is when a place tries to charge you two times in a row to get one over on you. The company spots it and stops the transaction. This is a common theme on the hill and why I never ever use a card there. Can't be trusted.
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Good thing someone else has noticed
Good thing someone else has noticed the pimps and managers coming out to defend their businesses.
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Ashley
[QUOTE=Ready81;1942398]Weren't you just giving agencies a bad review, specifically Bohemian girls several posts ago? ("they are boring and smell like latex condoms, gross, always texting etc).
Sarah is different. That is a girl who paying 1200 dollars for extended session could be worth it. Bohemian are pathetic, dudes on phone are liars / slime balls, girls seem like they're getting 25% cut. Sophie was cute- but I was told she was " premium " and this had to pay extra (little did I know, it's bullshit and there are only 3 girls there, I just got robbed) . She arrived late, refused a second pop. (though I paid for it). I just can't stress the only thing going for Bohemian is that the girls are cute. And not all of them are cute either. Bohemian also sends fake photos. Sophie's photo was fake for instance.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. The other girls I met including Sophie were definitely lackluster. Ashley was good though. I guess she was one of the other girls who were not officially listed on the website. She was definitely worth it. I booked her for three hours, and I popped more than three times for sure.
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[QUOTE=Jimthom;1942387]Belated report. Was on Hooker Hill on a rainy Monday night back in July. Almost nobody on the streets due to the bad weather. On the first pass up the hill, was surprised that no one was there at their doors beckoning me in. So did another pass. This time a mamasan at the Forest Queen saw me and called me in. The nice Vera wasn't there. Instead pretty skanky girl, Michelle was on duty. Knew I shouldn't have gone for her but was unfortunately too lazy to walk the hill again. Don't make that mistake. Get the extra exercise for a girl who will do you right.
Things started off on the wrong foot when my credit card was rejected by their machine. Only had 80,000 won in my pocket, so the mamasan said OK after initially asking 100,000. Michelle was not happy about that and the theme of the whole session was "you bring more money next time." So not only was she skanky, flabby, late-30's / early 40's, but was bitching about money the whole time. As a result, very little foreplay and she immediately went to mish. No other positions. When I couldn't cum due to being distracted by all of her money talk, she reluctantly went to doggy, where I was barely able to finish things off.
Moral of the story. Walk the hill till you get somebody who will be worth your time and money.[/QUOTE]I think it was her I fucked a few months back.
She looked foxy as heck, which was what beckoned me in. Other troll looking ajumma was there too.
Bidding started at 150 lolz. I countered at 80 firm. After a few hisses and disses in Korean (which they thought I couldn't understand), they accepted but said the troll would service me instead. I started to walk out and then the fox agreed to do the deed.
She initially tried to do CBJ even though BBBJ was part of the negotiation. She did the same "you need to bring more money next time" routine.
Shitty BBBJ followed, I must admit the BJ started off well for about 20 secs then went downhill for the remaining minute. Cover on, fucked her in mish. After 5 minutes she was asking why I hadn't cum yet, I told her to zip it and pounded away. Moved on to doggy and hate fucked the shit out of her till I busted.
The troll was lying and sleeping on the other sofa 2 feet away during this whole fiasco. Every once in a while she would mumble something about money, but never turned away LOL.
I also noticed Bean was still there, but tons of tranny bars near the top now.
My first punt on the Hill in over a year. Reminded me why I should appreciate what I've been getting everywhere else.
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[QUOTE=Ready81;1942478]...when the credit card is rejected, my experience this is when a place tries to charge you two times in a row to get one over on you. The company spots it and stops the transaction. This is a common theme on the hill and why I never ever use a card there. Can't be trusted.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that info. Normally I'd never think of using a card when having fun. But Korea is sometimes a little (repeat, a little) more "honest" than some other countries in some respects.
Advice duly noted. All cash all the time from now on.
Thanks again.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;1942502]I think it was her I fucked a few months back.
She looked foxy as heck, which was what beckoned me in. Other troll looking ajumma was there too.
Bidding started at 150 lolz. I countered at 80 firm. After a few hisses and disses in Korean (which they thought I couldn't understand), they accepted but said the troll would service me instead. I started to walk out and then the fox agreed to do the deed.
She initially tried to do CBJ even though BBBJ was part of the negotiation. She did the same "you need to bring more money next time" routine.
Shitty BBBJ followed, I must admit the BJ started off well for about 20 secs then went downhill for the remaining minute. Cover on, fucked her in mish. After 5 minutes she was asking why I hadn't cum yet, I told her to zip it and pounded away. Moved on to doggy and hate fucked the shit out of her till I busted.
The troll was lying and sleeping on the other sofa 2 feet away during this whole fiasco. Every once in a while she would mumble something about money, but never turned away LOL.
I also noticed Bean was still there, but tons of tranny bars near the top now.
My first punt on the Hill in over a year. Reminded me why I should appreciate what I've been getting everywhere else.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the commiseration. Bummer that you had a bad experience, too.
May have been a different girl / establishment for you, though, as all the action related to Forest Queen in my experience takes place off premise. You always leave with the girl and go to a nearby apartment. The mamasan doesn't come along.
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[QUOTE=JunLove;1942288]I hate to say this too but you guys sound jaded. I got Ashley from the agency for a couple of hours, and in my opinion, she was nice. I asked for Sophie and they texted me her face picture and she looked better in person. When I got Sarah for overnight, she paid for the taxi and booze too. Not all these girls are The Typical.[/QUOTE]I also hate to say it but both you and HTCBiggaBoat sound like pimps from Bohemian. Many members here punt all over the world (count me in as one of them) several times over. It's called experience. Not jaded. We know what are the market rate and service we suppose to get through forum like ISG. If the rate is $10 k I pay 10 k. If it's $10 USD I also pay $10. WG usually call you sucker behind your back when you overpay. I know this because I dated enough of them to know how they talk to each other and on the phones with their johns. If you ever have the chance to overhear their conversation, you'll feel doubly stupid for not only overpaying but having them call you dumbass behind your back for it.
Being experienced also means we have strong radar for fake posters. It might be easier to get away on BP because it's one way communication. But in forum like ISG, we self-police.
If anything, you and your cohorts just convinced me to put Bohemian on my avoid list. Thanks for your unwitting contribution.
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[QUOTE=WildWind;1941458]I like Kiss bangs so I tried 3 on last visit.
Best was MilKis in Sinchon area. Call for appt. (or have a Korean call for you if you don't speak) These are the numbers on their business card: 010 7751-3434 or 010-4752-7887. Had 30 min for $50 US w / Jenny. Sweet, young, pretty and OK English. Bare top and mouth on nips all ok. Good kisser. Mutual crotch touching over clothes. I recommend.
Worst was K-Plus near Hongdae Univ (see pic). Ugly girl. Little peck on closed lips was the extent of kissing. Went directly to upselling. I sprung for an alleged BBBJCIM but it was mostly a rough and muscular HJ. She complained I was taking too long. I explained she was hurting me and I wanted BBBJ. She would do 30 seconds of lackluster lip work then start torturing my poor rod again with her hand. Very disappointing. I ended up just leaving to escape. Awful!
My last night I went to Sillim area. There, look for signs that have big red lips on the upper floors of building exteriors along the big streets. That's your signal. They won't use the word "kiss" in the titles. Went to one in a building numbered 360 Sillum-ro. (see pic). Earlier in the evening I had met up with a Korean man and he went up there with me to explain what I want. I got a tall, lovely girl who I really enjoyed. No English so I don't know her name. 80 for an hour. Definitely worth trying.[/QUOTE]Great post. I've really struggled to find K Plus. I tried following various instructions and I always managed to get lost. Would you be able to run through exactly which exit and where you walk from Hongik Univ subway station?
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BJ cafe gangnam
Went and followed the directions to the BJ cafe and it's now been demolished. There is a massage place directly across the hall but way too old. Anyways, just wanted to give people a heads up. Still would appreciate any info on BJ cafes if there are any in Seoul. I won't get my hopes up too much as it seems some people here are a bit tight lipped towards those who are new. Which makes sense if they're locals or living here but how much do you think a foreigner can contribute while new. Sort of a catch 22. Anyways you can search perb. CC forums for me under the same username if that means anything.
Happy hunting people!
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[QUOTE=Ecchi;1942717]I also hate to say it but both you and HTCBiggaBoat sound like pimps from Bohemian. Many members here punt all over the world (count me in as one of them) several times over. It's called experience. Not jaded. We know what are the market rate and service we suppose to get through forum like ISG. If the rate is $10 k I pay 10 k. If it's $10 USD I also pay $10. WG usually call you sucker behind your back when you overpay. I know this because I dated enough of them to know how they talk to each other and on the phones with their johns. If you ever have the chance to overhear their conversation, you'll feel doubly stupid for not only overpaying but having them call you dumbass behind your back for it.
Being experienced also means we have strong radar for fake posters. It might be easier to get away on BP because it's one way communication. But in forum like ISG, we self-police.
If anything, you and your cohorts just convinced me to put Bohemian on my avoid list. Thanks for your unwitting contribution.[/QUOTE]Fine so be it, all I did was offer my opinion on the agency and their girls based upon my experience with them (Sena, Joy, & Tina). I personally enjoyed my time with them. Its likely I have different standards than others do but at the end of the day I was satisfied with what I received and comfortable with what I paid. For my overnight I went 4/5 rounds with the girl no problem, even tried for a 6 and she didn't raise any issue. I could FIV, DFK, LFK, DATY, 69 etc to my hearts content so for me that was worth the $1,200 I spent for 8 hours. Who knows, maybe I did overpay but compared to trying to get an overnight in NYC or Chicago with a Korean would've been a hell of a lot more expensive so I thought it was fairly priced. If you have any suggestions from a cost perspective on what you think an overnight is worth then I would like to hear it as I return to Seoul for a second time in October and want to set up more overnights.
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[QUOTE=Creman;1942897]Great post. I've really struggled to find K Plus. I tried following various instructions and I always managed to get lost. Would you be able to run through exactly which exit and where you walk from Hongik Univ subway station?[/QUOTE]Not the original poster, but go out Exit 1 at Hongik Univ Station. Keep walking 150 m until you get to the big intersection. Turn right. Walk to the next intersection. Turn right. K Plus will be three buildings down the street on your left.
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Was told I could find locations of other KissBangs at [URL]hongdaek.com[/URL]. Can't read / write hangul so I get this error message ([URL]http://imgur.com/a/7So1m[/URL]). Can anybody tell me what it says?
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[QUOTE=JayCanada;1943729]Was told I could find locations of other KissBangs at [URL]hongdaek.com[/URL]. Can't read / write hangul so I get this error message ([URL]http://imgur.com/a/7So1m[/URL]). Can anybody tell me what it says?[/QUOTE]It says "Please double check your ID" or "Please confirm your ID."
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[QUOTE=JayCanada;1943729]Was told I could find locations of other KissBangs at [URL]hongdaek.com[/URL]. Can't read / write hangul so I get this error message ([URL]http://imgur.com/a/7So1m[/URL]). Can anybody tell me what it says?[/QUOTE]I checked out the site but don't see kiss bang locations. Maybe I overlooked it. What is this site used for?
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[QUOTE=JayCanada;1943729]Was told I could find locations of other KissBangs at [URL]hongdaek.com[/URL]. Can't read / write hangul so I get this error message ([URL]http://imgur.com/a/7So1m[/URL]). Can anybody tell me what it says?[/QUOTE]It's actually asking you to click the button next to the ID field which checks whether the ID you chose is unique and therefore valid to use.
Basically, they want you to make sure the ID is usable before you continue filling out the form and not have it go "your ID is in use!" or something.
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Kaye on Hooker Hill
Does anyone know what happened to Kaye on hooker hill? I went by there last Sunday and Avante gard was closed down with a for rent sign. Did Kaye move on to another bar? It would be a shame to lose her on the hill.
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Kaye
[QUOTE=Seoul9333;1944213]Does anyone know what happened to Kaye on hooker hill? I went by there last Sunday and Avante gard was closed down with a for rent sign. Did Kaye move on to another bar? It would be a shame to lose her on the hill.[/QUOTE]Kaye works at Happy Days. She is usually there only on Weekends (Friday night late through Sunday afternoon). I saw her in July. Haven't been back to Seoul since then so I can't be sure she is still working. It would indeed be a shame if not.
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[URL]Hongdaek.com[/URL]
[QUOTE=JayCanada;1943729]Was told I could find locations of other KissBangs at [URL]hongdaek.com[/URL]. Can't read / write hangul so I get this error message ([URL]http://imgur.com/a/7So1m[/URL]). Can anybody tell me what it says?[/QUOTE]I can definitely confirm that the website address is correct and working. I just logged onto it to check for you. You have to register to enter the site though and so you would need a knowledge of reading Korean or have someone who speaks Korean sign up for you.
The girls are referred to as "managers" and you can see their profiles. I didn't look too carefully around, but it seems that the website is for just one establishment and the location is near the Hongdae subway station. The location of the place is on the side where the Outback Steakhouse is located and so many people don't go to that main side of the street as opposed to the regular Hongdae streets that have all the restaurants and clubs.
I'm assuming you already know what Kissbangs are for so I won't explain here.
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Cool report
I've been out of Korea for one year (because of job) and just came back two weeks ago. I know what's the 'game' in Seoul because I've been living here for some time already so went to try Cool (anyone knows where that is, I presumed). Last year I was paying 110,000 KW for a massage.
Followed by a BJ by a cutie. Now by the entrance the guy quoted me in Korean. 150,000, and said: savis good! So I didn't bother to ask, I thought they might have a new menu available already so who knows what surprise is going to wait for me behind the door? Went to shower.
Wear some baggy sauna pants and t-shirt. Went back to room. A 30's something girl came in, give me a good massage (she even tried prostate massage but over the pants), so in the end she leaves saying in English. Be strong. Two shots! I didn't know what she meant, but after couple of minutes.
A 20-22 yo college cutie got in took her top off and start the BJ. I came pretty fast, and than she left!. I though it might be something else. At least a second BJ. But after waiting about 10 min. I showered and put my clothes on and left the room. By the door it's the same guy which is asking me: Savis good? Agassi good? So I was like. For 150 K. I got only a BJ? How much for a second one?. He is quoting me. 100 k more. So I told him in Korean: why are you charging me that much? Why all of a sudden it's so expensive? He replied something which I didn't get it. So I left disappointed thinking: Cool it ain't Cool no more! I'm done. Do you guys think I just got ripped? For 130 k at Jinju I can get better massage and better service! What the Hell it's going on in Korea?
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Some thoughts on Bohemian
[QUOTE=HTCBiggaBoat;1943312]Fine so be it, all I did was offer my opinion on the agency and their girls based upon my experience with them (Sena, Joy, & Tina). I personally enjoyed my time with them. Its likely I have different standards than others do but at the end of the day I was satisfied with what I received and comfortable with what I paid. For my overnight I went 4/5 rounds with the girl no problem, even tried for a 6 and she didn't raise any issue. I could FIV, DFK, LFK, DATY, 69 etc to my hearts content so for me that was worth the $1,200 I spent for 8 hours. Who knows, maybe I did overpay but compared to trying to get an overnight in NYC or Chicago with a Korean would've been a hell of a lot more expensive so I thought it was fairly priced. If you have any suggestions from a cost perspective on what you think an overnight is worth then I would like to hear it as I return to Seoul for a second time in October and want to set up more overnights.[/QUOTE]I have seen a lot of comments going back and forth about Bohemian lately; so I have decided to step in with some thoughts of my own. Let's try to keep things in perspective.
First of all, punting, like life, "is a like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get" (Forest Gump, 1994). Regarding Bohemian, my experiences with them have been The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.
The Good – the girls I had there were outstanding. They were hot, or at the least very cute. They were skilled and enthusiastic in bed, and very fun to hang out with – overall, money well spent.
The Bad – on one overnight, the girl I was with suddenly had a terrible stomach ache and had to leave 4 hours into the 8 hour scheduled session. She seemed in great pain and seemed truly ill, so I had to let her leave. I was not too happy to do that, given that I paid for an entire overnight session. If she had some sort of illness, she should not have been working (the manager did give me discounts on subsequent girls).
The Ugly – one night, they sent over a girl. She was totally wet behind the ears and looked like a freshman in University. When she first saw me, she gave me a startled look. When she entered my hotel room, she didn't even take off her shoes, which is beyond never done in Korea. I knew something was wrong. Within seconds she was whispering into her cellphone and she gave it to me. Apparently, she was having second thoughts about our "appointment" and her manager asked me to let her leave. This has never happened to me as a punter across the globe. Ever. I wasn't sure exactly what happened, but I had the feeling that since I don't look like a Korean person's biased view of a "foreigner" (Caucasian, blond, etc.) she had a problem with doing me (I am of mixed ethnicity and have been asked if I was from Hawaii to Nepal to Peru to Turkey / Central Europe). Regarding her behavior, maybe she suddenly saw the light? Perhaps she decided to change her wicked ways before it was too late. Before being sucked into the dark side of Seoul's night life never to return to innocence? Who knows? Who cares? But seriously, it was not cool and I had a brief conversation with the manager after she left. I told him that if she wanted to choose her clients, she had better work for a kiss bang or a hostess bar, or a norae bang; not for an escort agency "catering" to foreigners.
At this point, I haven't decided whether I will call Bohemian again. As Forest Gump said "you never know what you're going to get". Maybe this is why I enjoy punting – anything can happen.
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[QUOTE=Seoulomio;1946347]I have seen a lot of comments going back and forth about Bohemian lately; so I have decided to step in with some thoughts of my own. Let's try to keep things in perspective.
First of all, punting, like life, "is a like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get" (Forest Gump, 1994). Regarding Bohemian, my experiences with them have been The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.
The Good the girls I had there were outstanding. They were hot, or at the least very cute. They were skilled and enthusiastic in bed, and very fun to hang out with overall, money well spent.
The Bad on one overnight, the girl I was with suddenly had a terrible stomach ache and had to leave 4 hours into the 8 hour scheduled session. She seemed in great pain and seemed truly ill, so I had to let her leave. I was not too happy to do that, given that I paid for an entire overnight session. If she had some sort of illness, she should not have been working (the manager did give me discounts on subsequent girls).
The Ugly one night, they sent over a girl. She was totally wet behind the ears and looked like a freshman in University. When she first saw me, she gave me a startled look. When she entered my hotel room, she didn't even take off her shoes, which is beyond never done in Korea. I knew something was wrong. Within seconds she was whispering into her cellphone and she gave it to me. Apparently, she was having second thoughts about our "appointment" and her manager asked me to let her leave. This has never happened to me as a punter across the globe. Ever. I wasn't sure exactly what happened, but I had the feeling that since I don't look like a Korean person's biased view of a "foreigner" (Caucasian, blond, etc.) she had a problem with doing me (I am of mixed ethnicity and have been asked if I was from Hawaii to Nepal to Peru to Turkey / Central Europe). Regarding her behavior, maybe she suddenly saw the light? Perhaps she decided to change her wicked ways before it was too late. Before being sucked into the dark side of Seoul's night life never to return to innocence? Who knows? Who cares? But seriously, it was not cool and I had a brief conversation with the manager after she left. I told him that if she wanted to choose her clients, she had better work for a kiss bang or a hostess bar, or a norae bang; not for an escort agency "catering" to foreigners.
At this point, I haven't decided whether I will call Bohemian again. As Forest Gump said "you never know what you're going to get". Maybe this is why I enjoy punting anything can happen.[/QUOTE]Box of chocolates isn't really the problem. The girls should at least have fairly good "skills" at a bare MINIMUM so at least people who paying 200 to 300 for 1 or 2 shots somewhat get their moneys worth even if there is no GFE.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1946535]Box of chocolates isn't really the problem. The girls should at least have fairly good "skills" at a bare MINIMUM so at least people who paying 200 to 300 for 1 or 2 shots somewhat get their moneys worth even if there is no GFE.[/QUOTE]That's right, and it's more than that. For instance, I was asked to pay "extra"(more than the website listed price) for a premium girl (something not mentioned on the site) for a girl who is just one of the regulars. (Sophie). I mean, it was the epitome of a scam. That's when I know these guys are a rip-off. If I want to get ripped off, there are plenty of other ways to do so. It just shows a complete lack of respect for the customer. Like someone else said, these guys are actually laughing about it.
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Never had any service from Bohemian.
But I know this one I'm using lately is providing pretty honest and fair offers [URL]www.petitseoul.com[/URL] Nari and Hani the both were very pretty, well. Some fellas here told me if I work in this agency.
I don't know what to say as to this comment. But yes I do work and I get a bunch of free girls every night LOL, seriously guys I am just a guy who is trying to help out those poor guys who have been ripped off from places like Bohemian. But I really think we need some positive comments for good agencies. If someone wants to find a right place for a good experience in Seoul, he needs to see something genuine.
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[QUOTE=Mark67;1946834]But I know this one I'm using lately is providing pretty honest and fair offers [URL]www.petitseoul.com[/URL] Nari and Hani the both were very pretty, well. Some fellas here told me if I work in this agency.
I don't know what to say as to this comment. But yes I do work and I get a bunch of free girls every night LOL, seriously guys I am just a guy who is trying to help out those poor guys who have been ripped off from places like Bohemian. But I really think we need some positive comments for good agencies. If someone wants to find a right place for a good experience in Seoul, he needs to see something genuine.[/QUOTE]How many times are you allowed to pop in your 1 HR session at 240 k?
If your answer is one. There are plenty of other places that don't offer such rip off prices.
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[QUOTE=Mark67;1946834]But I know this one I'm using lately is providing pretty honest and fair offers [URL]www.petitseoul.com[/URL] Nari and Hani the both were very pretty, well. Some fellas here told me if I work in this agency.
I don't know what to say as to this comment. But yes I do work and I get a bunch of free girls every night LOL, seriously guys I am just a guy who is trying to help out those poor guys who have been ripped off from places like Bohemian. But I really think we need some positive comments for good agencies. If someone wants to find a right place for a good experience in Seoul, he needs to see something genuine.[/QUOTE]A bunch of free girls each night?? Wow please tell us where LOL. This post sounds like an agency.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1946972]A bunch of free girls each night?? Wow please tell us where LOL. This post sounds like an agency.[/QUOTE]You clearly don't have any sense of humor, do you?
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This guy has a point
[QUOTE=Mark67;1946834]But I know this one I'm using lately is providing pretty honest and fair offers [URL]www.petitseoul.com[/URL] Nari and Hani the both were very pretty, well. Some fellas here told me if I work in this agency.
I don't know what to say as to this comment. But yes I do work and I get a bunch of free girls every night LOL, seriously guys I am just a guy who is trying to help out those poor guys who have been ripped off from places like Bohemian. But I really think we need some positive comments for good agencies. If someone wants to find a right place for a good experience in Seoul, he needs to see something genuine.[/QUOTE]At least somebody had to come up saying hey, I'm not a pessimist, I've got some solutions here! Well, why don't we figure it out if this [URL]www.petitseoul.com[/URL] provider's as awesome as it's described in this thread, shall we? Cause I'm visiting Seoul in a few days, I prefer real cute Korean girls than cheap aged ones so Cheerio! I'll get back to you guys later for sure.
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[QUOTE=Mark67;1946834]But I know this one I'm using lately is providing pretty honest and fair offers [URL]www.petitseoul.com[/URL] Nari and Hani the both were very pretty, well. Some fellas here told me if I work in this agency.
I don't know what to say as to this comment. But yes I do work and I get a bunch of free girls every night LOL, seriously guys I am just a guy who is trying to help out those poor guys who have been ripped off from places like Bohemian. But I really think we need some positive comments for good agencies. If someone wants to find a right place for a good experience in Seoul, he needs to see something genuine.[/QUOTE]You definitely are an agency pimp. That place looks like a classic rip off as well. 240 usd? So that's like 270,000 won for one pop at a girl who we can't even see a real photo of before she shows up?
Sex is free, essentially. There's no reason to spend that much on a pop. Could be wasting that money on fine food, drink, trips, and accommodation, which the ladies gravitate towards anyways. As I said, these agencies are for guys who are in town for a few days and / or have big time yellow fever.
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[QUOTE=Mark67;1946834]But I know this one I'm using lately is providing pretty honest and fair offers [URL]www.petitseoul.com[/URL] Nari and Hani the both were very pretty, well. Some fellas here told me if I work in this agency.
I don't know what to say as to this comment. But yes I do work and I get a bunch of free girls every night LOL, seriously guys I am just a guy who is trying to help out those poor guys who have been ripped off from places like Bohemian. But I really think we need some positive comments for good agencies. If someone wants to find a right place for a good experience in Seoul, he needs to see something genuine.[/QUOTE]Free girls! Let's think about this one. A massage parlor changes a standard rate to customers. A portion of that goes to the establishment to pay for staff, utilities, lease and of course to turn profit. Another percentage of that rate goes to the girl. So if you're getting free girls 1) the business is not collecting any money from you and generating no profit from you 2) the girl is fucking you for free.
This seems highly improbable. Working girls are working girls and in the end, they want their money. So the only reasonable explanation is that the business is paying the girl her cut to fuck you in which case, the business is actually losing money.
You may be a guy with good intentions but so long as an agency is paying their girls to fuck you, your 'reviews' are completely biased and untrustworthy.
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[QUOTE=Mark67;1947086]You clearly don't have any sense of humor, do you?[/QUOTE]It's just that your English is kind of bad, being a K-pimp and all posing as a customer.
[QUOTE=JJames1972] At least somebody had to come up saying hey, I'm not a pessimist, I've got some solutions here! Well, why don't we figure it out if this www.petitseoul.com provider's as awesome as it's described in this thread, shall we? Cause I'm visiting Seoul in a few days, I prefer real cute Korean girls than cheap aged ones so Cheerio! I'll get back to you guys later for sure.[/QUOTE]Geezus, there are actually more pimp posts than reports these days.
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[QUOTE=Mark67;1947086]You clearly don't have any sense of humor, do you?[/QUOTE]Just admit that you and your pimps need more training to fool posters on here LOL.
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[QUOTE=ZackaryKr;1945680]I can definitely confirm that the website address is correct and working. I just logged onto it to check for you. You have to register to enter the site though and so you would need a knowledge of reading Korean or have someone who speaks Korean sign up for you.
The girls are referred to as "managers" and you can see their profiles. I didn't look too carefully around, but it seems that the website is for just one establishment and the location is near the Hongdae subway station. The location of the place is on the side where the Outback Steakhouse is located and so many people don't go to that main side of the street as opposed to the regular Hongdae streets that have all the restaurants and clubs.
I'm assuming you already know what Kissbangs are for so I won't explain here.[/QUOTE]Does it list their Kakao ID by chance? I would like to see if an English speaking foreigner is okay. Also ask for no fuglies.
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Just curious
If the pimps are on here frequently defending / promoting their businesses. How slow must business be going?
Isn't it time to start listening to your clients?
It's only a matter of time before the prices re-adjust themslves to what they were 3-4 years ago. Do you think you'll be able to survive that?
Do you think you'll be able to keep up with women that offer 100-150 k per hour? Even anmas that charge foreigner tax only charge an extra 20 bucks or thereabouts, you guys charge an extra 100 for nothing.
The same goes for indies whose prices have doubled or trippled since 2013.
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Incheon Yellow House
Reported about this in the past.
Made another visit to this RLD. It's mostly not foreigner friendly, but a few houses will take you.
Went to the same place as last time. The old ladies tried to set me up with the same girl I had before, petite good looker but sub par service and no BBFS. Plus she was looking for every excuse not to service me anyway (checked my dick size, tried to stall as much as she could), in the end I told her not to bother and went back to the ajummas.
Told the ajummas exactly what I was looking for (BBFS, wild girl, good body). They took me to another of their providers. The first thing I noticed were long legs and firm thighs that wouldn't look out of place at a gym. In short, she had a great body popping out of the little black dress she was wearing. Not skinny, not fat, just very well proportioned and athletic looking in that dress.
Went into the room. She was very excited, probably a bit too much overacting but it sure as hell beats dealing with hookers who show disdain at having to service you. Her dress went off, revealing ample be-cups and a six pack! Either a gym nut or one of those genetically lucky people. She cleaned me up in the shower, washed my dick, balls and asshole, at this point I'm hoping she fucks and sucks as energetically as she acts. Boy was I in for a treat!
After we were both clean, she begins the second best BJ I've ever received from a Korean woman (No. 1 is still Sarah). Proper cock worship with lots of suction, ball licking, rimming, the whole 9 yards and more. Complete porn star BJ, wet, slurpy and lasted at least 10 mins. My cock didn't leave her mouth the whole time. She should open her own lip cafe and train the girls to her standard!
After her mouth got tired, she climbed on top for CG. I noticed a grin on her face as she inserted me in, followed by a good ride from her. She kept kissing my forehead as she rode away. Moved into reverse CG, doggy, and finished in mish. All in all, one of the best RLD experiences I've had. Definitely top 5.
Only downer is she's about 10 years past my ideal. The best comparison would be Kaye from hooker hill. That was the first thing that crossed my mind when I saw her. Will definitely visit again.
Face: 6/10.
Body: 8/10.
BJ: 10/10.
BBFS: 9/10.
Attitude: 10/10
Overall: 8/10 (9 if she was 10 years younger).
Damage: 80 k won plus 10 k won tip.
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Miari Dilemma
Although I like to explore different houses in Miari, I have my favorite house where they've known me for years. I've reviewed girls from there in the past, and they seem to be the most foreigner friendly house in the RLD.
As always, the girls will always latch on to you and make you their regular when you visit, which is a bit of a downer if you see someone else there you want to fuck. Competition for clients there seems to be fierce. I have a regular there. Petite body, probably under 5 ft, tight, only problem is her BJ skills are lacking.
Visited the same place this week, but my agenda was to try another one of their providers. I told the ajumma outside that I wanted a different girl that day, she knew who my regular was and asked why. I told her I just wanted a different experience, she said ok, walked me in to the room and asked me to wait.
I'd actually fucked another girl in that house recently and was hoping to see her again. Her service skills were superior to all other girls there. BJ, BBFS etc were all skillfully done and she clearly takes her job seriously. Skinny as a stick, around 5 ft 1, be cups. Definitely in her 20's.
As I was waiting, my regular came in and wanted to take me to her room. This was exactly what I did not want to happen, as I explained to her that I wanted someone else that day. AWKWARD!!
Eventually the girl I wanted came in. Got exactly what I was looking for. Completely satisfied to the last drop of cum I deposited in her pussy. I will definitely be seeing her more often, but this might cause a rift between her and my current regular since they both work at similar times. Looking for a way to navigate this while keeping awkwardness to a minimum.
A good dilemma to have!
Face: 7/10.
Body: 7.5/10.
BJ: 9/10.
BBFS: 9/10.
Overall: 8.5/10
Attitude: 10/10
Damage: 80 k won
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Thanks
Thanks for the reports, Rain. Nice way to get this forum back on track!
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Yup thanks Rainman!
These days I've been visiting random barber shop poles looking for that gem as well. However its a bit more than rlds. 100 to 120 k.
Problem is you never know what kind of woman will open tour door after you striped down.
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You're welcome fellas.
LiA don't strip down till you see the provider. Don't be afraid to ask for someone else either. As long as you don't engage in anything (BJ, FS etc), you'll get a full refund if nobody there is up to your standard.
The only issue is it might be awkward if you decide to change or leave, but as long as you're polite everything should be ok.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;1949248]You're welcome fellas.
LiA don't strip down till you see the provider. Don't be afraid to ask for someone else either. As long as you don't engage in anything (BJ, FS etc), you'll get a full refund if nobody there is up to your standard.
The only issue is it might be awkward if you decide to change or leave, but as long as you're polite everything should be ok.[/QUOTE]Yes it would be a bit awkward. I sometimes go during the day and sometimes the places are fairly empty. Not even sure if they have more than 2 girls at a time working. Girls probably increase after 6 pm.
Thing is they direct you to the room and tell you to shower and wait like 10 min. By then its too late. I never see the girl where I pay etc.
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Any place in suwon
Hi,
Visiting Suwon this weekend. Is there any recommendations for F'S.
As far as I know there are some areas near to Suwon station but don't have details. Please suggest.
It should be foreigner friendly.
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Not the smartest
Some guys want to pay ridiculous rates for service. That's their choice.
But to allow a hooker to film you and post a video of your face online?
[URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/nicki-hosting-in-a-hotel-independent-photos-are-real/3861095[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Ritik;1949649]Hi,
Visiting Suwon this weekend. Is there any recommendations for F'S.
As far as I know there are some areas near to Suwon station but don't have details. Please suggest.
It should be foreigner friendly.[/QUOTE]Opposite the big hotel next to the station. Come out of exit 13, walk straight and take the first right.
A-row girls are not foreigner friendly, but walk along the side streets in the RLD and you should find something.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;1950161]Some guys want to pay ridiculous rates for service. That's their choice.
But to allow a hooker to film you and post a video of your face online?
[URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/nicki-hosting-in-a-hotel-independent-photos-are-real/3861095[/URL][/QUOTE]She is he or if she is real lady she is not Korean, maybe Thai?
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[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;1950506]She is he or if she is real lady she is not Korean, maybe Thai?[/QUOTE]Filipina.
Her rates have gone up 100 k since she first arrived a few months ago.
The Korea effect LOL.
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Visited. You are right that A-Row girls are not foreigner friendly and there is huge gap in quality between A-row girls and side street ladies.
Any other place you recommend?
[QUOTE=RainMania;1950165]Opposite the big hotel next to the station. Come out of exit 13, walk straight and take the first right.
A-row girls are not foreigner friendly, but walk along the side streets in the RLD and you should find something.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Ritik;1951166]Visited. You are right that A-Row girls are not foreigner friendly and there is huge gap in quality between A-row girls and side street ladies.
Any other place you recommend?[/QUOTE]Read the forum dude.
Plenty of tried and tested places with guaranteed quality. Miari, Cheonho, Yellow House Fish Anma etc.
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This place is pretty interesting.
A bunch of pessimists want to find out an oasis in a desert. Keep exploring please. I tried to find a good place myself too.
But those shops as cheap as 100-150 k were not foreigner friendly nor any good.
I'd rather go to see an office girl.
You guys should be on national geographic channel, it's that interesting to see you guys here especially those two guys.
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Second visit to Cool
Do I was in the Gangnam area looking for some entertainment, hoping to find a kiss bang but started thinking about the amazing BBBJ I got last time at Cool. Next thing I know, there I am. Inside the young man lets me know that today they are running two courses. Course A is just like it always was and course be is a service girl followed by massage and then a second service with different girl for 200. I went with be and the first girl was beautiful and skilled but no comparison to the girl two. After the first BBBJ a hot looking 30 ish lady came in and gave a top notch massage to include walking on my back. She never really touched my junk, but massaged all around. Once done she calls girl three and in walks a girl with the face of an angel and the mouth of a ****. She clearly loves to suck dick and is really good at it. Age is getting the best of me and I was not able to reach completion but it was not due to lack of effort. She really put her heart into and felt bad for stopping but I had no regret. My cock was in heaven in her mouth.
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Sowing Oats Up North
I used to hit up Miari a lot back in the day, but haven't in at least two years.
Had a great night tonight. Went to the place I used to consider my "stomping grounds", and it was the same Mamasan as back then.
She immediately launched into questioning of where I have been and why I haven't been around. Some good back and forth, mostly in Korean, but some English tossed in from both sides. I'm not fluent in Korean, but I can hold conversations.
I didn't know any of the gals dressed up in the Hanbok attire that they were staged in, but the Mamasan paraded around the room like a drill sergeant, getting everyone in line and in fighting form. I felt like I had some sort of cred. (in at least that they we instructed if they do well, I have a rep for being a repeat customer).
Chose a nice twenty-something gal with a athletic ass (either works out or had a kid, as she had some protruding shape to it, unlike most Korean gals).
As we were headed up the stairs, the Mamasan let me know that they actually have a Karaoke device installed in one of the second floor rooms, and that we could pre-game / foreplay in there if I paid 100,000 instead of 80,000. I immediately jumped at that as I love to sing, and love to get a nice BJ while doing.
So, I found myself having even more excitement than I had planned tonight.
In the midst of getting great oral while singing "Lady" by Kenny Rogers (judge away, but I rock that song on the mic), the Mamasan knocked and entered the room asking if I would like another girl as well. She remembered me well enough to know that sometimes I'd splurge for another gal to be part of the action in whatever capacity. I explained that I'd been drinking a bit (hung out at the 7-11 by one of the entrances for a bit), and could probably just perform once. She offered up that for an extra 40, they would both blow me, and then whomever I choose to fuck would receive the initial 100 I had previously paid.
So my wallet got 40,000 won lighter, and had both girls taking turns. Yes. Some wet tissues were involved between swaps, but hardly noticeable when you are in the throws of song and enjoying the suction down below.
After about 25 minutes singing songs and getting licked and sucked, I took my initial choice into the 3rd floor room, and we fucked up a storm. Thought, to be honest, it was less, "we", and more "me". I think by that point she couldn't wait to clock out, but, nevertheless, still fulfilled her role, regardless of how many times we swapped positions for me to get off.
Nowadays, a lot of the classic areas are dying out, or being gentrified. Hooker Hill is slowly disappearing, along with some of the classic talents those of us who have been here 10 years or longer are aware of.
Based on my mongering of late (and I know I don't post much. Always been more or a reader and keeping shit to myself), Miari is one of the last few oases.
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[QUOTE=Mark67;1951895]A bunch of pessimists want to find out an oasis in a desert. Keep exploring please. I tried to find a good place myself too.
But those shops as cheap as 100-150 k were not foreigner friendly nor any good.
I'd rather go to see an office girl.
You guys should be on national geographic channel, it's that interesting to see you guys here especially those two guys.
Ready81, LovinAsia those two fellas would make a great couple I'm sure.[/QUOTE]Haha I'm not into guys like your mind seems to be thinking about. Enjoy paying your 300 per shot. But since your grammar sucks you're proably a pimp LOL.
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Great report
[QUOTE=PegInThePoke;1952004]I used to hit up Miari a lot back in the day, but haven't in at least two years.
Had a great night tonight. Went to the place I used to consider my "stomping grounds", and it was the same Mamasan as back then.
[/QUOTE]Miari has been holding steady after the initial decline in 2013-4. It still gets a lot of traffic and solid women, both older and younger.
Hopefully it will continue to go strong for a few more years.
Great report man!
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[QUOTE=Mark67;1951895]A bunch of pessimists want to find out an oasis in a desert. Keep exploring please. I tried to find a good place myself too.
But those shops as cheap as 100-150 k were not foreigner friendly nor any good.
I'd rather go to see an office girl.
You guys should be on national geographic channel, it's that interesting to see you guys here especially those two guys.
Ready81, LovinAsia those two fellas would make a great couple I'm sure.[/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]
If you want some advice on your business, here it it is.
It's not about price necessarily. A high price for a good service, and honest pimp / middle-man / girl can be worthwhile. What you are running is a scam. Raising prices at the last minute, using fake photos, charging double than Korean price, posting hundreds of fake reviews. And with this kind of behavior- I can guarantee that the girls are treated like garbage by you.
Listen dear low-life pimp;.
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A high price has to be justified.
Most mongerers don't even pay 250 k for one hour of service. In reality they're paying 250 k for 10-30 mins of sexual activity, maybe at tops 40 mins. Plus the 20-40 k they dish out for the motel room. That is almost 300 k won just to bust one nut!
Even then, most of the services provided are just plain vanilla. Some indies that are charging 250-300k don't even do OWO (lol)! It's completely ridiculous.
Even if the girl stays for the rest of the time afterwards, you'll only end up having a meaningless conversation till she finds an excuse to scram. If I wanted expensive useless chat I would go to a juicy bar or hire my own personal assistant.
Mongering doesn't have to be this expensive and unfulfilling. Staying away from agencies and unnecessarily expensive indies will do your dick and wallet a whole new world of good.
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Guidance Needed
So I had / am having an interesting experience and I want to find out if anyone has encountered anything similar. Here's the story:
Over the past few days, I somehow got the KakaoTalk ID of a "girl" who I'm guessing is actually a shop manager or pimp. I can't recall where I got it (either a Korean website or a social app, but I've been digging around a lot recently and just can't recall where this one came from). In Korean, I sent a message to this account just saying Hello,. After some pleasantries, she asked if I wanted to meet. I said yes. She then laid out the following: 150,000 KRW for 3 hours with two shots or 300,000 for 10 hours overnight (didn't ask how many times because I'm not interested in 10 hours). At this point I asked for and received a couple of other photos. I also confirmed that foreigners are accepted. I can read and write Korean a lot better than I speak, so I didn't want it to be a surprise when I showed up and sounded like a doofus.
Then things got interesting. She asked what time I wanted to make an appointment. I told her and she said that in order to make an appointment, I needed to transfer 100,000 KRW to an account as a deposit. The other 50,000 KRW would be payable in cash at the appointment. Bank transfer is the norm here for moving money, so that method isn't weird, but I got a little nervous about my personal details being attached to this payment and told her as much. I said I would prefer to pay it all in cash and she said the deposit is necessary to make the appointment and that she would send me the shop location after receiving the transfer.
Has anyone encountered anything like this before? I'm not so much worried about risking the 100,000 KRW on a scam as I am on it potentially being LE.
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[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1953534]So I had / am having an interesting experience and I want to find out if anyone has encountered anything similar. Here's the story:
Over the past few days, I somehow got the KakaoTalk ID of a "girl" who I'm guessing is actually a shop manager or pimp. I can't recall where I got it (either a Korean website or a social app, but I've been digging around a lot recently and just can't recall where this one came from). In Korean, I sent a message to this account just saying Hello,. After some pleasantries, she asked if I wanted to meet. I said yes. She then laid out the following: 150,000 KRW for 3 hours with two shots or 300,000 for 10 hours overnight (didn't ask how many times because I'm not interested in 10 hours). At this point I asked for and received a couple of other photos. I also confirmed that foreigners are accepted. I can read and write Korean a lot better than I speak, so I didn't want it to be a surprise when I showed up and sounded like a doofus.
Then things got interesting. She asked what time I wanted to make an appointment. I told her and she said that in order to make an appointment, I needed to transfer 100,000 KRW to an account as a deposit. The other 50,000 KRW would be payable in cash at the appointment. Bank transfer is the norm here for moving money, so that method isn't weird, but I got a little nervous about my personal details being attached to this payment and told her as much. I said I would prefer to pay it all in cash and she said the deposit is necessary to make the appointment and that she would send me the shop location after receiving the transfer.
Has anyone encountered anything like this before? I'm not so much worried about risking the 100,000 KRW on a scam as I am on it potentially being LE.[/QUOTE]Fake.
It's an old-time scam that burned many foreigners and Koreans alike a few years ago (2012-13). I'm surprised it's still going on.
Never transfer money to a pimp or indie in advance. If and when you get scammed, you won't exactly be able to report it to police.
If you want to check how real this "girl" is, offer her an extra 50 k to meet in person, where you'll pay everything in full and in cash.
10 bucks says she'll give some bullshit excuse about how the manager insists on following the system, and will urge you to transfer the money asap.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;1953585]Fake.
It's an old-time scam that burned many foreigners and Koreans alike a few years ago (2012-13). I'm surprised it's still going on.
Never transfer money to a pimp or indie in advance. If and when you get scammed, you won't exactly be able to report it to police.
If you want to check how real this "girl" is, offer her an extra 50 k to meet in person, where you'll pay everything in full and in cash.
10 bucks says she'll give some bullshit excuse about how the manager insists on following the system, and will urge you to transfer the money asap.[/QUOTE]This is exactly what happened. She "needs the deposit to make a reservation at the shop. " Yeah, right.
Thanks for the input. Back to the drawing board.
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Kiss bangs
So this trip I really wanted to try out a kiss bang. After doing a lot of research on this forum I gathered my list and struck out on the metro to find one. First day out yielded no luck as the location seemed no longer in business (at least the signs described did not match what I was seeing). Next day I went to the Sillim station and did some exploring. First location I found was:
Sestars kiss bang at the corner outside exit 8. I hoped if their sign was in English that they might have someone there who spoke English. No luck. Went up and the place looked cool inside. Blue lights, nice decor but the managers only English was "no time". So off to find another place.
From Searars I continued down the road and discovered many "business clubs" that looked like strip joints, many barber pole establishments and two more kiss bangs, both had white signs with large red lips and a letter K. Went into the second one and paid my quoted 80 k won, brushed my teeth and was greeted by a beautiful college student named Karadum who was about half my age. She wore a lovely short dress and bare legs with the most perfect feet I have ever seen. The room looked a little skeezy but I wasn't there for the room. We had a little small talk and then laid back and started making out. She was a wonderful kisser with soft lips, open mouth and frequent tongue action. There are two types of French kissing, the deep tongue fucking kind and then the equally sensual clit licking kind. She was the latter. She let my hands freely roam anywhere over the clothes. I think I could have fingered her but ran out of time. She had no issue with me fondling her bare ass. All in all it was a great time and I will be back.
I then tried Raimbow at the Korea University Station. This place was cheaper, room was nicer but just didn't click. The girl was Luna and studied in Canada so her English was good. Her kisses were tight lipped which I eventually got her to listen a bit but no French. She also wore thick tights so the hands roaming didn't really do much for me. Probably won't repeat.
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Eve Anma?
Has anyone been to Eve Anma recently? Thinking about going, but I want to double check and see if they still accept foreigners. Since Ace raised their prices, I'm also hoping to know how expensive Eve is now.
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Jinju and beyond
So I've been in Seoul a couple weeks now, acclimating to my new surroundings. I introduced myself a couple months back as a newcomer to the hobby and now that I'm finally in Seoul, I'm excited to get started! So this will be my first review and actual contribution:
TL; DR: Jinju is great, I rate it 8. 7/10. Stuff in Gangnam is pricey and this is no exception but it was a great first experience. I'm going to be in Seoul a little bit longer and I'm going to try an officetel.
I decided I wanted to try the well reviewed Jinju massage in Gangnam as my first stop. For anyone that has not yet been or might not be familiar with this style of service: let me tell you all the things you should avoid doing so you won't seem as newbie as I was. Or still am.
First, as soon as you walk through the door take off your shoes, find an available locker and put your shoes inside. Take the key with you and note the number on the tag or just hold it in such a way that you can easily present it. Staff members may ask you what your key number is regularly, so be prepared to tell or show them. Put on a pair of the slippers provided, they should be stacked nearby. (I had skipped this step and didn't realize until after I was already naked.) Then you walk up to the front desk and they'll probably straight up tell you the price is 130,000. There are discounts available based on time of day and some sort of membership that I will find out about later and report back on but the base price is 130,000 cash or 150,000 if you pay by card.
Then you will be directed past the desk to a sitting area with small tables and chairs and a TV mounted to the wall. The hallway on the left leads to the private rooms and you will be directed through there by a staff member after you've cleaned up so head to the right into the locker room and find the locker that matches your key, strip and store your clothes in the locker and take your key with you. Just before the glass door that leads to the showers you will see some shelves. Facing the door, the left will have the towels and on the right will be gowns. One for the upper body, one for the lower body. Take note, take off your slippers and head in. Immediately to the left you will find some disposable toothbrushes, tubes of toothpaste and disposable razors. I'd recommend brushing your teeth but shaving is probably optional? If you need a touch up, then it wouldn't hurt. I wasn't told anything specifically during my stay. There's also a door that leads to a sauna, if you so wish. A sign taped to a wall near that door says in Korean: "after showering use the baths" but the English translation below it is backwards. Probably Google's fault, yeah? Please shower first.
If I remember correctly there are six shower heads so just find one that isn't occupied. They each have pump bottles for shampoo, body wash, and a can of shaving cream. I can't remember this part clearly but there should be some spa towels either in the shower room or maybe they were beneath the regular towels, I didn't notice them on my way in so I didn't take advantage but they are very helpful for exfoliating, so clean up gentlemen!
After the shower, you can soak in the hot bath then take a dip in the cold bath. Ideally you'd do this a few times, but if you don't have the time, or can't wait, it's time to head out of the showers. Grab a towel and dry off as best you can. Grab an upper and lower gown and put them on then put on your slippers. There will be some hair products along the mirror if you want to fix yourself up a bit. Past the mirror will be two holes in the counter for you to drop your damp towels into. Head back to the sitting area and there will be a staff member that will ask for your key number then guide you through the hallway maze into your room. There you will wait for the masseuse.
Now the rest, I think most people know from other reviews. You'll get a pretty good deep tissue massage for an hour after which she'll call in the young girl for the happy finale. Cheers! This is last part is 15 minutes and timer enforced so if you can't release they'll just send you on your way I've read differing reports on what the finale entails but officially it is a BBBJ with CIM and you are allowed to fondle the girl but nothing underneath the panties. Your experiences may vary, especially if you aren't or don't appear Korean.
After you're done she'll clean you up, hand you your key and point you towards the showers where you'll dump your gown into the same hole the damp towel went into, clean up and dress yourself. In the sitting area you can request a snack and a drink if you'd like or you can proceed to the front desk to pick up your shoes and back outside feeling refreshed!
I was lucky enough to get quite the cutie. Easily an 8+/10 in looks, perfect palpable breasts, taller than average, and easy to converse with which helps with the confidence, you know? It was my first foray into the hobby so I was a bit anxious and preoccupied by all sorts of thoughts but she helped me through it and made the experience great. On my way out I asked the staffer who I should ask for the next time I visit if I wanted to see her again and he contacted whoever is in charge of assigning girls and I promptly got the name (obviously going to be her code name) but I know who I'm going to ask for next time I drop by. Felt like I won the lottery with her so I'm not sure about my chances at the roulette if I go with a random girl.
As a side note: there is a special extra course at Jinju where you pay an extra 40,000 to get two girls. 15 minutes at the start, an hour massage, then another 15 minute finale. I believe Cool and / or Eve have a similar offering?
So in my case, maybe I could do that and request a specific girl as finale. But at 170,000 total cost. I'll probably try an officetel next before coming back here. It isn't a lot more for a 90 minute GFE with multiple shots.
Phew, that was long. I apologize for any rookie mistakes I've made. As a continuation of my first post since I joined these forums, I'm going to be in Seoul for a little while longer. If the language barrier has been the main thing keeping you from trying an officetel maybe we can figure something out and I can get you through the door as long as you adhere to their rules of conduct.
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Great Report
[QUOTE=SesameOil;1955583]So I've been in Seoul a couple weeks now, acclimating to my new surroundings. I introduced myself a couple months back as a newcomer to the hobby and now that I'm finally in Seoul, I'm excited to get started! So this will be my first review and actual contribution:
TL; DR: Jinju is great, I rate it 8. 7/10. Stuff in Gangnam is pricey and this is no exception but it was a great first experience. I'm going to be in Seoul a little bit longer and I'm going to try an officetel.
I decided I wanted to try the well reviewed Jinju massage in Gangnam as my first stop. For anyone that has not yet been or might not be familiar with this style of service: let me tell you all the things you should avoid doing so you won't seem as newbie as I was. Or still am.
First, as soon as you walk through the door take off your shoes, find an available locker and put your shoes inside. Take the key with you and note the number on the tag or just hold it in such a way that you can easily present it. Staff members may ask you what your key number is regularly, so be prepared to tell or show them. Put on a pair of the slippers provided, they should be stacked nearby. (I had skipped this step and didn't realize until after I was already naked.) Then you walk up to the front desk and they'll probably straight up tell you the price is 130,000. There are discounts available based on time of day and some sort of membership that I will find out about later and report back on but the base price is 130,000 cash or 150,000 if you pay by card.
Then you will be directed past the desk to a sitting area with small tables and chairs and a TV mounted to the wall..[/QUOTE]Very detailed. I went there a year ago and it was just as you said. The first (older lady) who did the massage, stroked me a bit until the younger girl came in for the BBBJ CIM and she continued to stroke it while the younger girl was massaging my temples a bit. I am a white guy from the US and speak a little Korean and I had no issues, but I think I paid 140,000 KW, but still worth it. I wouldn't have minded if the older lady had done the BBBJ, she was a hot MILF with a tight body. I need to go back before it closes or starts refusing foreigners, this seems to happen from time to time when other foreigners do something stupid.
Thanks,
LM
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The good thing about places like Jinju is they are used to foreigners, and they have plenty of women willing to service foreigners.
Other places where they are still getting the feel for foreigners, or where they have a "designated service provider for foreigners" (ie the lowest ranking girl on their roster), tend to change policy quickly either due to misbehaving foreigners or burn out of the DSPF due to too many appointments.
Just goes to show how far good management and fair pricing will take a brothel. Will agencies take note?
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[QUOTE=AJinSeoul;1955443]Has anyone been to Eve Anma recently? Thinking about going, but I want to double check and see if they still accept foreigners. Since Ace raised their prices, I'm also hoping to know how expensive Eve is now.[/QUOTE]I am white and speak no Korean. Went on Sunday, 23 OCT. Paid W270. The girls were very pretty. Enjoy.
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[QUOTE=Fsitc;1956200]I am white and speak no Korean. Went on Sunday, 23 OCT. Paid W270. The girls were very pretty. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Ouch. 270 for massage and BJ? Is there FS there?
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[QUOTE=SesameOil;1955583]
TL; DR: Jinju is great, I rate it 8. 7/10. Stuff in Gangnam is pricey and this is no exception but it was a great first experience. I'm going to be in Seoul a little bit longer and I'm going to try an officetel.[/QUOTE]Nice report. This is one of my favorite stops in Gangnam. It's nice to get a legitimately good massage with usually good quality service at the end. I have had slightly varying experiences, though.
One time I got a good massage and then was disappointed when the younger girl who came in to finish me off was pretty chubby (not that it matters much for this service, but I'm always hoping for a drop dead gorgeous thin Korean girl). Turns out she's like a vacuum cleaner. My god.
Another time one of the most beautiful Korean girls I've ever seen walked in. She gave crap service. Mostly HJ and then complained about CIM.
You win some, you lose some, but Jinju is worth checking out.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1956357]Ouch. 270 for massage and BJ? Is there FS there?[/QUOTE]Eve is the place with a relay with 3 girls (2 pops) and a massage.
Worth it IMO, although I haven't tried it.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1956357]Ouch. 270 for massage and BJ? Is there FS there?[/QUOTE]CFS with all three. First on the bed, second in the shower chair, third back on the bed. MPCFS with the last one.
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In Seoul 06-09 November
Hi all,
I will spend some time in Seoul as an experienced mongerer. It will be nice to grab a beer if you are around the city.
Regards.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;1956522]Eve is the place with a relay with 3 girls (2 pops) and a massage.
Worth it IMO, although I haven't tried it.[/QUOTE]Oh sounds good. Especially if you're getting good looking SPs.
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[QUOTE=Fsitc;1956200]I am white and speak no Korean. Went on Sunday, 23 OCT. Paid W270. The girls were very pretty. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]
How can i find the address of Eve?
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[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1957162]How can i find the address of Eve?[/QUOTE]It's located near Hak-dong station. If you google it, you should be able to find specific directions.
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[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1957162]How can i find the address of Eve?[/QUOTE]I Googled it: 279-105 Nonhyeon 2 (I) -dong, Gangnam-gu, Seoul.
On another site there are detailed directions including pictures. There is a sign in English that says "Eve" at the entrance.
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Seoul help
Hi fellow mongers,
I am coming to Seoul and will be staying in a good five star hotel. I am looking for a good contacts of independent girls who can come to the hotel for FS. Please help. I am also looking for a good massage girl who can come to hotel and give me a good massage and maybe more. I don't like to work through agents. Any help will be much appreciated with a guarantee that if anyone of you guys come to UK I will make you have a wonderful time in mongering. Please help, my PM is active.
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LOL.
Pimp still trying to advertize his rip-off agency.
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[QUOTE=Rsa2015;1957907]Hi fellow mongers,
I am coming to Seoul and will be staying in a good five star hotel. I am looking for a good contacts of independent girls who can come to the hotel for FS. Please help. I am also looking for a good massage girl who can come to hotel and give me a good massage and maybe more. I don't like to work through agents. Any help will be much appreciated with a guarantee that if anyone of you guys come to UK I will make you have a wonderful time in mongering. Please help, my PM is active.[/QUOTE]It really depends on what your budget is. The going rate these days is $250-$450 per hour. Two years ago indies were charging half that.
Current etiquette is 1 pop per "hour", by hour I mean however long it takes you to cum within that hour (10 minutes or 59 minutes). All further pops are subject to $150+ surcharge per "hour".
My recommended pick would be Sarah Miehn ($400 ph) and Tina Yang ($300 ph). You can't go wrong with either, and both are easily found on a google search.
You would be better off reading the forum on tried and tested RLDs and establishments, with directions also given. The more you're willing to explore what Seoul has to offer, the more chance you have of getting a good punt.
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Miari regular
Visited my regular at Miari this week.
She upped her game this time around after our awkward exchange last visit.
Image in doggy.
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Incheon Yellow house
[QUOTE=RainMania;1949070]Reported about this in the past.
Made another visit to this RLD. It's mostly not foreigner friendly, but a few houses will take you.
Went to the same place as last time. The old ladies tried to set me up with the same girl I had before, petite good looker but sub par service and no BBFS. Plus she was looking for every excuse not to service me anyway (checked my dick size, tried to stall as much as she could), in the end I told her not to bother and went back to the ajummas.
Told the ajummas exactly what I was looking for (BBFS, wild girl, good body). They took me to another of their providers. The first thing I noticed were long legs and firm thighs that wouldn't look out of place at a gym. In short, she had a great body popping out of the little black dress she was wearing. Not skinny, not fat, just very well proportioned and athletic looking in that dress.
Went into the room. She was very excited, probably a bit too much overacting but it sure as hell beats dealing with hookers who show disdain at having to service you. Her dress went off, revealing ample be-cups and a six pack! Either a gym nut or one of those genetically lucky people. She cleaned me up in the shower, washed my dick, balls and asshole, at this point I'm hoping she fucks and sucks as energetically as she acts. Boy was I in for a treat!.[/QUOTE]I've been in Incheon Yellow house several times. Nearly every ajuma asked me to come in (I'm from south Europe and speak some Korean). But when I asked for girls who do BBFS they all denied.
Only some older girls in the be-row (left side oft the area) gave me this service after short negotiations. Some of them not ugly, also nice BJ, quoted me 60.000 W.
So my questions: Did you ask the ajuma or the girl for BBFS? And what time did you go there? (I've been there at 9 pm).
P.S.: I would not ask where you find "Kaye No. 2", but of course I would be interested.
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[QUOTE=Oesede;1958454]I've been in Incheon Yellow house several times. Nearly every ajuma asked me to come in (I'm from south Europe and speak some Korean). But when I asked for girls who do BBFS they all denied.
Only some older girls in the be-row (left side oft the area) gave me this service after short negotiations. Some of them not ugly, also nice BJ, quoted me 60.000 W.
So my questions: Did you ask the ajuma or the girl for BBFS? And what time did you go there? (I've been there at 9 pm).
P.S.: I would not ask where you find "Kaye No. 2", but of course I would be interested.[/QUOTE]I told the Ajummas I was looking for BBFS with a solid provider.
The provider I saw was definitely older, but great body, so I'm pretty sure she wasn't A-row.
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Massage Parlors
Hi all,
I stay in a hotel close to Gimpo Airport and my flight is from Incheon on Tuesday. Since the last train from Gangnam area is at 11:30 pm I couldn't do anything today and feeling very disappointed. I was planning to go to Eve Anma despit the very high price.
I want to ask you which MP is the best. How can you compare those tested houses below?
Eve Anma.
Miari.
Cheonho.
Yellow House.
Fish Anma.
Also what are the options in Eve Anma? And prices?
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[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1959180]Hi all,
I stay in a hotel close to Gimpo Airport and my flight is from Incheon on Tuesday. Since the last train from Gangnam area is at 11:30 pm I couldn't do anything today and feeling very disappointed. I was planning to go to Eve Anma despit the very high price.
I want to ask you which MP is the best. How can you compare those tested houses below?
Eve Anma.
Miari.
Cheonho.
Yellow House.
Fish Anma.
Also what are the options in Eve Anma? And prices?[/QUOTE]Miari. RLD (70-90 k).
Cheonho. RLD (90-100 k).
Yellow House. RLD (60-80 k).
Eve Anma. Anma means "massage" in Korean. It's basically an upscale massage joint. 270 k won gets you 3 different girls back to back (2-3 shots if you can manage it).
Fish Anma. I think they mostly offer one girl, but sometimes you might get two. Damage is around 240 k.
Better to read the forum pages on direction and etiquette at these places.
Since you're in Gimpo, Yellow House is the closest option for you.
Good luck and don't forget to report back!
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Massage in Yeongdeungpo
Got a massage in Yeongdeungpo that ended in a BJ then HJ. Damage was 80 krw.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;1959236]Miari. RLD (70-90 k).
Cheonho. RLD (90-100 k).
Yellow House. RLD (60-80 k).
Eve Anma. Anma means "massage" in Korean. It's basically an upscale massage joint. 270 k won gets you 3 different girls back to back (2-3 shots if you can manage it).
Fish Anma. I think they mostly offer one girl, but sometimes you might get two. Damage is around 240 k.
Better to read the forum pages on direction and etiquette at these places.
Since you're in Gimpo, Yellow House is the closest option for you.
Good luck and don't forget to report back![/QUOTE]I have already tried Eve Anma. First note only Eve writes on the door and to find it you have to walk and turn first left after you exit No:2. It is impossible to see it after you exit from metro. Anyway I easily find the place. I paid 270,000 KRW for 3 girls. Girl 1 was a solid 7 with fake boobs. Girl 2 was solid 8. Girl 3 was only 7. And she was smelling bad for a reason. My opinion is if you are into asshole licking ball sucking type of things it is good for you but if you like DFK or maybe nipple sucking it is not for you. I paid nearly 250 USD and I even didn't kiss one nipple or not allowed to kiss the girl. Limited touching. Briefly girls here are working like in a manufacturing place. You can see them in the coridor. Enters one door exit the other and then enter the other. They work like machine because this place is a three girl place. They need many girls working. There were at least 25 rooms inside. I saw 3-4 customers. Thing make me disappointed was the third girl. I was expecting a fat 30 s for the first girl but a tall girl with european body type came in. She was wearing stylish also face was not bad. But she was mechanical and distant. Second girl was much better than her so I was thinking the third one will be a super 9 or 10. Only good thing with 3rd is her tight pussy. I even don't think that I could come a second time but she make me. At the beginning I thought not to come in first girl because I was thinking I will have three pops so not to waste my load for the first and ugliest one. And I asked her what will the second girl do. And she replied she will just wash me but surprisingly the second girl was the most pervert. She eat my whole body. She never get disgusted. I wouldn't do the second girl job even 1,000,000 USD per month. Really disgusting. And strange thing noone talking about the seat with hole. First time I saw such a thing and I was thinking it is for girls pussy wash but it wasnt. It is also for male customers. Think about it. You just cumm and a woman trying to suck it in the shower under a hole of a seat. Really strange. South Korea really always made me surprised and made me ask why? Final words I am a finical person. An average mongerer can be woow for this place but I wasnt. Especially after paid that amount money. I should have tried other MP s for one shot with a price of 70-100 K and then head to a kissbar. It is for me. Maybe tomorrow night I find an opportunity to go.
Note: Please other guys can share how much they have paid. I have read you paid 240,000 or 260,000 KRW is there a time that overpaid? Or I am just scammed by receptionist lady? I am very curious. She didn't accept my discount requsst.
Regards.
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I asked this before but got no replies. Are kiss bangs only for 20 or early 30's guys or have you seen older korean men go to them?
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1959976]I asked this before but got no replies. Are kiss bangs only for 20 or early 30's guys or have you seen older korean men go to them?[/QUOTE]I've asked some kiss bang girls who their customers are. I think generally they are guys in their 20's to 40's, with those in their 30's being the most common.
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[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1959639]I have already tried Eve Anma. First note only Eve writes on the door and to find it you have to walk and turn first left after you exit No:2. It is impossible to see it after you exit from metro. Anyway I easily find the place. I paid 270,000 KRW for 3 girls. Girl 1 was a solid 7 with fake boobs. Girl 2 was solid 8. Girl 3 was only 7. And she was smelling bad for a reason. My opinion is if you are into asshole licking ball sucking type of things it is good for you but if you like DFK or maybe nipple sucking it is not for you. I paid nearly 250 USD and I even didn't kiss one nipple or not allowed to kiss the girl. Limited touching.
Note: Please other guys can share how much they have paid. I have read you paid 240,000 or 260,000 KRW is there a time that overpaid? Or I am just scammed by receptionist lady? I am very curious. She didn't accept my discount requsst.
Regards.[/QUOTE]I can't deny that Eve is still great value for money, since you had 3 different girls.
The problem is anmas operate like factories, like you said. With most other anmas, you only get one girl for the price you paid.
When it comes to mongering, Korea is the ultimate YMMV scene. That's why it is important to have repeat visits with the same girls / establishments if you like them the first time round.
Eve, like other establishments, tend to charge foreigner charge according to their perception of how willing they are to service you. If you look East Asian, you'll probably pay the same as Koreans (240 k), maybe an extra 10-20 k if they sense you're not actually Korean.
If you're white or white passing, your tax will be higher. If you're black, your tax will be even higher since they'll think your dick size might be an issue for the girls.
This tends to only happen at anmas and upscale massage places though, some agencies also try o do this. You shouldn't have too much of an issue with RLDs, you can always negotiate prices there.
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Miami visit
I burst my RLD cherry and went to Miari on Sunday night. It was pretty dead and only one Mamasan was close to the entrance all the other ones were no one there. Guess what someone wrote before going on a Sunday night is pretty dead.
I decided to stay with this Mamasan and she opened the door for me and I let her know what I wanted. I saw three girls sitting in their dresses and the Mamasan lead me upstairs where there was a karaoke room and told me the girl is the back was good. Paid 90,000 for the damage. Girl came up with beer and fruit and we exchanged greetings.
When we went to the private room, she told me to undress inside and she closed the door. Got into my birthday suit and she soon came in. She was a bit more plump than I would like and had very small boobs. I just decided to stay with her since this day was dead. She told me to lie down and wiped my chest area and noticed I was clean and just wiped my junk.
She did the nipple play and told her I didn't like it and she understood and went to BBBJ. She had a not bad technique. She had good suction power and knew how to work my head. She soon inserted me in and wow she was tight at least. As soon as we switched positions I got the 5 minute left knock. I went on top and finished in missionary.
She wiped me up and went out and told me change and stay inside. I finished dressing and cleaned herself and was back in her dress. She led me to the door and gave me the yogurt drink and I left.
Overall I think if I was more aggressive about who I wanted I might have had a better time. Still thinking if I should make another visit maybe during a weekday night.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;1960208]I can't deny that Eve is still great value for money, since you had 3 different girls.
The problem is anmas operate like factories, like you said. With most other anmas, you only get one girl for the price you paid.
When it comes to mongering, Korea is the ultimate YMMV scene. That's why it is important to have repeat visits with the same girls / establishments if you like them the first time round.
Eve, like other establishments, tend to charge foreigner charge according to their perception of how willing they are to service you. If you look East Asian, you'll probably pay the same as Koreans (240 k), maybe an extra 10-20 k if they sense you're not actually Korean.
If you're white or white passing, your tax will be higher. If you're black, your tax will be even higher since they'll think your dick size might be an issue for the girls.
This tends to only happen at anmas and upscale massage places though, some agencies also try o do this. You shouldn't have too much of an issue with RLDs, you can always negotiate prices there.[/QUOTE]What is the time limit for Eve?
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Miari report
[QUOTE=HereIGo;1960472]I burst my RLD cherry and went to Miari on Sunday night. It was pretty dead and only one Mamasan was close to the entrance all the other ones were no one there. Guess what someone wrote before going on a Sunday night is pretty dead.
I decided to stay with this Mamasan and she opened the door for me and I let her know what I wanted. I saw three girls sitting in their dresses and the Mamasan lead me upstairs where there was a karaoke room and told me the girl is the back was good. Paid 90,000 for the damage. Girl came up with beer and fruit and we exchanged greetings.
When we went to the private room, she told me to undress inside and she closed the door. Got into my birthday suit and she soon came in. She was a bit more plump than I would like and had very small boobs. I just decided to stay with her since this day was dead. She told me to lie down and wiped my chest area and noticed I was clean and just wiped my junk..[/QUOTE]Sorry just realized auto correct wrote Miami LOL.
Plus my bad for not proofreading thoroughly.
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It would be nice to know how to figure out which massage places have showers where you can wash first and sometimes with the sp washing you down and herself as well, rather than wipes, assuming youd want to DATY.
But in my experience its hit or miss.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1960646]It would be nice to know how to figure out which massage places have showers where you can wash first and sometimes with the sp washing you down and herself as well, rather than wipes, assuming youd want to DATY.
But in my experience its hit or miss.[/QUOTE]I should have mentioned that I meant a shower bed in addition to a shower.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1960601]What is the time limit for Eve?[/QUOTE]It is one hour.
15-30-15 minutes for girls.
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[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1960840]It is one hour.
15-30-15 minutes for girls.[/QUOTE]Seems a bit rushed for 270 k.
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Massage parlour programs
Massage parlor programs are various.
As Loveinasia mentioned, only Even has the program to take 3 girls, but also a lot of massage parlours have this kind of program by charging more money than taking 1 girl for the same time.
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[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;1961827]Massage parlor programs are various.
As Loveinasia mentioned, only Even has the program to take 3 girls, but also a lot of massage parlours have this kind of program by charging more money than taking 1 girl for the same time.[/QUOTE]Do you mean regular barber shop pole places have various options?
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;1962013]Do you mean regular barber shop pole places have various options?[/QUOTE]I am very curious what you get for what price in other MP's?
How many minutes? And the program details?
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Advice
Hey all. I don't monger much due to lack of much expendable cash. I have saved up about 500,000 won and am wondering what you would do. Do you go to the cheap places like RLD often or blow it on Eve a couple times? What would you do in my situation?
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Its still going. Lots of places have been closed down. I went early so not many girls were out. I got turned down by most but after walking around a bit I finally got a pretty good looking girl to take me in at the normal rate. The place were my regular sat is demolished though. Pretty sad about that. I was hoping tonsee her in another window but no luck.
I am wondering if I should try to set up an hour with Sarah Meihn or Tima Yang. One of those or Eve. What do you think?
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[QUOTE=Phloppy;1962532]Hey all. I don't monger much due to lack of much expendable cash. I have saved up about 500,000 won and am wondering what you would do. Do you go to the cheap places like RLD often or blow it on Eve a couple times? What would you do in my situation?[/QUOTE]Save another 2-300.
Go on a weekend trip to Thailand / Philippines (200-300 k return).
Have as much pussy as you want in penthouse suite...threesomes included.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;1962785]Save another 2-300.
Go on a weekend trip to Thailand / Philippines (200-300 k return).
Have as much pussy as you want in penthouse suite...threesomes included.[/QUOTE]I would love to do that but right now I am stuck in Korea.
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MP's
Sorry, didn't follow this topic GCNovice. Given that I don't speak korean, I just go in and they show me on their calculator what the price is, I pay and I'm led to a room where you undress, take a shower and brush your teeth. Then you just wait for the girl and communicate in the universal language of paid "love", I. E. Being respectful and all that. In some places, as you can see here in the forum you get multiple girls if you're into that sort of thing.
[QUOTE=GCNovice;1941263]Maybe I should start hitting up massage parlor instead of BP. I'm a reviewer, if you want me to prove my "creds". As I notice some users' reply about not sharing. So, being the parlor virgin that I am, what do you ask for when you go in?[/QUOTE]
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September Seoul: Intro
I was in Seoul for work meetings in September, my second time in Korea but the first time with mongering on the agenda. I had gotten into mongering and reading ISG shortly after my first trip to Korea ten years ago, and had read up on things in Seoul from time to time out of curiosity (and out of a general interest in Korean massage girls, a few of whom I had sessions with in years past). So I realize that I finally came back to Seoul after the passing of what many consider "good old days. " That said, I still had a good time during my week there, though the fun was definitely not cheap.
Gangnam was my base, staying in hotels around Yeoksam subway station. My entertainment venues included a mix of Anmas, barber-pole massage parlors, Itaewon's Hooker Hill red light district, plus I had several escorts over to my hotel. The subway was a great way to get around, since there were clusters of venues around a number of the stations in Gangnam, but given how large the subway stations could be oftentimes it was almost as quick to walk from place to place (a good workout given all the hills).
To me, mongering in Seoul was kind of like the metal chopsticks in a Korean restaurant, the ones that are just a bit harder to eat with than the wooden ones at a Chinese or Japanese restaurant. What I mean is, in comparison to other countries, things are just a little more quirky and idiosyncratic, a little less accessible, a little more challenging to my expectations. For example, there was the sometimes cool reaction I got from the staff at places like Anmas, the ambiguous reactions of the girls during sex when it was sometimes hard to tell if they were vocalizing pleasure or pain or what, or their strange style of kissing when that was even offered. Or the massage routines which while fun could be puzzling (the three girl rotation at Eve Anma, for example) or a little too regimented. There was a major element of surprise too with the women, not being able to choose in Anmas or massage places and hoping for the best when an escort arrived at my door. I saw a wide range of women in terms of looks, from stunner to cute girls next door types to attractive 30-somethings and MILFs I would have declined elsewhere.
These are not serious complaints; as a tourist it was pretty easy to sample the scene. For example, even with a Korean vocabulary of about three words, communication was never really a stumbling block; escort visits were easily arranged; and venues were not too hard to find (I love the barber pole concept). Not knowing what to expect had the benefit of building anticipation, adding a bit of adventure to things. And when the women were really hot, or very skilled at a body massage or catbath, or even a vanilla back massage, they were world class. (But pretty damn expensive!
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September Seoul: Day 1, Massage Parlor: Unseo right by Incheon Airport
My Seoul trip got off to a fast start, and a convenient one, as close as the first subway stop from Incheon airport. Rockit Reports had been a great resource for planning my trip, with a number of reports on anmas, red light districts, agencies, and general information that he put online from 2012 to recently. In one he described the Unseo neighborhood near Incheon airport, a several square block district of multi-story buildings with hotels, shops, and restaurants (I had one of my best meals of my trip in one place here). The subway got me to Unseo very quickly, and from the plaza in front of the station entrance I walked toward the buildings, making a left at the corner convenience store. Soon I was passing a building with prominent signs for Thai massage upstairs; I passed because I wanted to go local, and since I had read on the forum a report that most Thai places offered HJ endings at most (I never tried one to discover if that is true or not).
I crossed a street and the building on the next corner had a blow up barber pole, but I decided to wander around before settling on a place. I looked for places I had read about by name, and at the end of another long block and past a petrol station spotted one: Kings, on the second floor of a building; it looked very professional with images of women getting massages on the windows. Almost too legit looking, I feared. There was a one-block street perpendicular to Kings, and at the end, to the left a bit, was a building with signs for KTV and Sauna and a barber pole. Across the street from Kings were a couple of large buildings with massage signs, one in bright red with Japanese, English, and Korean, a promising sign. I went up to 3 F as advertised, and the place looked promising. But when the young guy at the counter showed me a menu with massage packages I asked which one included sex, and his reply was that they did not do that (I have my doubts). The building next door housing a massage place had unlit small barber poles on the corners, but the look of the second floor entrance, with pictures of kids and old people getting mud baths, put me off.
So I returned to the place with the big blow-up pole, and up on the third floor the place did fir my image of what I was looking for, dark with a heavy-set mamasan who let me in. When I asked for massage she instantly said "sexu" and wrote down 150,000 on a piece of paper. I paid up and she led me to one of a series of rooms with curtains on the entrance, not a good sign to my eyes. She instructed me to change into the boxers provided and had me put my valuables in a small locker in the room, and gave me the key on a wristband.
When a busty girl in her 20's appeared I felt more assured. She had me lie face down for a very brief back massage, and then led me through a small labyrinth of hallways to a shower room complete with table. This is where all the fun would take place, I realized. She undressed, revealing a very nice, large (Korean scale) set of tits, which made up for a somewhat plain face. She thoroughly soaped me up with lots of attention to my fun parts, and had me lie on the table where she performed a basic cat bath and gave me a (regrettably) covered blow job. Everything was rather mechanical and she didn't show any warmth, and maybe worse she wouldn't allow sucking of her fine tits. She rode me for a bit and I ultimately came while fucking her in missionary. I enjoyed the release to start off the trip, and as I made my way back to the subway and rode into Seoul, I did hope for better things to come over the next week. But as always the reconnaissance was part of the adventure, and it's good to know that if you've got even a relatively short layover at Incheon airport there is a mongering option at hand, with possibilities in Unseo (some of the places that didn't work for me might work for others).
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September Seoul Day 2: Anma, Hera
Jet lag reared its ugly head and so I got a seriously late start on things on my second day in Seoul, leaving my hotel at around 5 PM. Staying near the Yeoksam subway station in Gangnam, I decided to try Hera, near Seolleung subway station. Forum directions were accurate; walk straight out of exit 2, walk a couple of blocks and make a left after the Kinkos. The Greco-Roman building did stand out, although the name on the sign now reads "Castle" (Hera is still written on the automatic glass doors). I got a warm welcome at reception, slipped into slippers, paid the 270,000 Won to the woman at the counter (that would be the standard Anma price on this trip), and was ushered downstairs.
The scene was cinematic: techno music pulsated in the red-lit basement hallway as I made my way through gauzy curtains and past bathrobe-clad young guys being kissed by hotties in lingerie. The girl I had been paired with, Wisu, met me at the door to her room. On the way downstairs the male staff employee had told me "young" while doing the international charades sign for big tits. Wisu was attractive with a nice set of augmented tits (it was a fine job and felt nice to hold, but I could tell they were fake), but she was not young, telling me herself that she was 30 years old.
She was quite friendly and we communicated fine despite the language barrier. We were clearly in a room where she stayed, as it had plenty of personal touches, and she gave me a personal touch after we stripped down and she soaped me up in the bathroom. A fine body slide followed, and her pointy nipples really felt great all over my body. After some BBBJ Wisu rinsed me off, we got dry, and headed onto the bed.
Here she took total control, having me lie down and sidelining my attempts to kiss her lips or body. She had her routine and she was going to stick to it. Not that it was bad, her uncovered blow job was quite nice, and we did get into a hot little 69 session. I also liked the fucking that followed, cycling through missionary, cowgirl, and doggy where I finished. Wisu cleaned me up and offered me some water and I was soon on my way. Wisu certainly had skills, but I still would have preferred something more free-form, not to mention one of the hot young things in the hallway.
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September Seoul Day 2: Anmas, aborted efforts at Fish and Ace
From Hera I found a place for dinner before starting off on a trek to Fish Anma, which was high on my list of planned destinations. Walking north up Seolleung, out of curiosity I headed into a brightly lit food and bars street on the left, about 2 blocks from the Teheran intersection. Just north off this street I spotted a barber-pole massage place named Vitamin, which I did not check out but someone may wish to.
Back on Seolleung, I made my way up to the Gangnam-gu subway station to give myself a landmark for finding Fish. Directions on the forum were accurate: head a couple of blocks south from the station (exit 2 the nearest), on the west side of Seolleung, and make a right into the side street. A block down on the right, on the corner, was Fish. As I walked toward the entrance, a middle aged guy in the security guard box on the corner quickly chased me down and indicated it was a no-go. He was nice enough about it, though. For all I had read about Fish being foreigner friendly, I think the distinction between a foreigner of Asian heritage and non-Asian (like me) needs to be made. My timing was probably off, it being around 11 PM on a Saturday night, possibly a busy time. And I may have had better luck if I had not been wearing jeans, T-shirt, and athletic shoes. Whatever the factors, there would be no Fish for me this night.
Since I was in the neighborhood, I decided to scope out Ace, which gets a lot of notice as an Anma open to foreigners. It was easy to find, a free-standing-building not far from exit 3 out of Gangnam-gu Office station at the end of a side street on the north side of Hak-dong St. Thinking back to some reports about less than stellar talent there, and not wanting to pay another quarter of a million for a session with a 30 year old not of my choosing, I decided to look for an alternative.
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September Seoul Day 2: Massage Parlor, Dallas
One subway stop west, Hak-dong, had a couple of venues nearby: one was Eve Anma, with the multiple-girl programs I read about, but I had decided not to do another big Anma that night. The other place was Dallas, a massage parlor I had read only one report about. I would have taken the subway to these places, but because it was after midnight (me still awake thanks to jet lag), I walked on over.
Dallas was easy to find, near the beginning of the side street just north of Nonhyeonno Street, off exit 6 of Hak-dong station. With a lighted, spinning barber pole out front it was easy to spot. I went down to the basement and the friendly 40 ish woman at the counter greeted me with a smile and wrote 130,000 Won on a slip. This turned out to be great value, but I was wary at first when the reception lady joined me in the room. She had me strip, shower (on my own a room nearby), and then proceeded to give me an outstanding massage, just what I needed after flying the previous day and walking so much today.
I appreciated her skills and manner but was happy when she ushered in a girl in her 20's in a dress after finishing the massage. Chinju was pretty, though no stunner, but most important she was very friendly and perky, and we managed fine despite the language gap, kidding around in non-verbal ways. Chinju had small breasts but a big smile, and a decently round ass. After a BBBJ we fucked in a couple of positions, leaving me happy with choosing Dallas that night.
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September Seoul Day 3: Anma, Tiffany
Something I notice on ISG, whatever the country, is how some venues get overwhelming attention, and others you have to discover many pages deep in the forum like an archaeologist digging through layer after layer of soil. It took a lot of skimming but in doing my trip research I came across a handful of places (like Dallas for massage places) that had been reported on once or twice and then any mention of them disappeared. Hoping that this was not because the venues themselves had closed, I wanted to track some of these down. One was Tiffany Anma. One thing I discovered was that it fit the pattern of clusters I noticed: a number of subway stations had multiple venues. An Anma and a massage parlor like at Hak-dong. Close by (later on my trip I noticed in area around Sinnohyeon station some venues, including what looked like an anma behind Design Hotel on Bongeonsaro St. , and further up the hill a Thai massage place.). Near Gangnam station I had read about Tiffany Anma and VIP-MVP massage parlor (more on that one later).
Leaving Gangnam subway station via exit 6, I walked south a couple of blocks, turning right into a side street, and after one short block it I saw signs to my right for VIP / MVP on the block north of this intersection (which I noted for my planned future visit), but turned left to look for Tiffany. It was pretty easy to spot, with a sign for massage in front of a building set back from the street. It had a restaurant on the second floor but it was clearly a building dedicated as an Anma. (There was also another barber pole place on the next corner).
At the reception a couple floors up I was received with what I perceived as surprise at the sudden appearance of a waygook. It was late afternoon on a Sunday, and so I guess the place was empty, which helped my cause in getting in. I paid the 270,000 Won charge and after a few minutes waiting in the lounge a male staff member took me to another floor to the room of one of the girls (it looked like the room she boarded in).
Naby greeted me politely, but not with particular warmth, a hallmark of our session together. She looked great, in her mid-twenties and slender. Her skills were undeniable: after soaping me up in the bathroom alcove at the end of the room she had me lie down on the washing table and proceeded to give me one of the best body slides of my life. With her head down at my toes she used her nuru-glazed ass and pink slit to do a virtual pole dance around my cock, and it looked as good as it felt. Ditto for the blow job she gave me on the table.
Once she washed me clean of the nuru, the bed program began. I say program because I didn't have much latitude in directing things. Pussy licking was off the table, for example. Some more good dick sucking was followed by fucking in missionary and doggy. This girl's lithe body felt great against mine, but her vocalizations were hard to interpret: were they (well-acted) pleasure or pain? (She did make some annoyed dick size comments). This ambiguity put me off a bit, and cut things short of my shooting a load. As far as the Anma / massage parlor aspect of my trip, however, she was the best combination of youth and looks I was to have.
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September Seoul Day 3: Massage Parlor, Belle
There are so many reports for Belle, Cool, and Jinju that I decided I should try one out, even though a no-sex happy ending place is not my preferred kind of venue. The budgetary aspect was a factor since the Anmas had been so pricey. From where I left off at Tiffany, near Gangnam metro station, I was able to walk south to the location for Belle and Cool, a bit far but manageable if you have the time. Along the way I noticed on a side street a block or two north of Dogokdong (the street where Belle and Cool are located), but on the other side of Dogokdong, that had more than one barber pole prominently displayed, so a place for someone to explore.
Once I had turned left onto Dogokdong, it took a few minutes until I spotted Cool (north side of the street), but I had decided on Belle (opposite side, a bit further down). I passed it by the place the first time since it is in a building set back and up a small side street on a hill. There is a sign that I missed on the first pass.
Once down the stairs I was let in by a slim girl in glasses and after paying the 85,000 fee she showed where I could shower and led to a room. After washing up I pressed the service bell button and soon heard a knock on my door. A skinny girl in a white dress entered; she was cute and seemed like a college student. After giving me a good back massage she had me turn over and I sat up and gave her a little kiss and dropped her dress off her shoulders revealing teensy breasts but eraser nipples that were soon between my lips. I laid down and she returned the favor by placing her own lips around my dick for a nice blow job, transitioning to a hand job, something which she had lots of skill. She oiled me up and jerked me until I shot a powerful blast of cum over my chest. I never made it to Cool or Jinju (even though I later stayed in a hotel almost next door to the latter), or back to Belle, since Seoul's other options were more enticing, including escorts. My escort plans for this night fell through (more on that later), but I would make up for it later.
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September Seoul Day 4: Escort, Jinny (Independent)
The night before I had planned on meeting independent escort Jinny who has been recommended on the forum, and whose contacts I found after a simple web search. I had contacted her by email, which I found to convenient, and atypical of the way I contacted escorts in other countries. We had arranged her making a visit to my hotel near Yeoksam, but due to a missed message we were unable to get together.
We tried again the next night, and I was pleased with what I saw when I answered my doorbell. Now, Jinny did look a bit hotter in the photo she sent, but in person she had an attractive college-girl look, and a nice body. Like all the escort interactions I would have, on meeting the girl things were a little stilted as I paid her $230 fee (I decided to pay in dollars for some reason), but Jinny warmed up soon. After she showered she did make sure to go over to the desk and flip down the laptop screen, to guard against secret filming, which I was not actually doing.
We began with some light kissing, which was almost farcical since this involved her puckering up her lips into a kind of beak and pecking at my own lips like a bird, very strange. I moved onto more promising areas, like her round and respectably-sized breasts, which I figured as a very good boob job. Jinny did much better with her lips while giving me an uncovered blowjob, which was satisfying.
That's the word I would describe for the sex too. Jinny knew how to move, and her grab-able, round ass was one of the more impressive encountered on the trip (no Brazilian bunda here, but it was good for Korea). I'd recommend Jinny as a good-looking, pleasant girl to spend an hour with, and by the escort prices I paid in Seoul a good value. Jinny was a very sweet girl, she even emailed me a nice note after our session.
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September Seoul Day 5: Escort, DaNa (DaSom Agency)
My first session with an escort in Seoul had gone well, so I set one up for the following night. I emailed DaSom, which framed itself as a group of girls getting together to make some money, but is just another agency. The girls on their site looked like college students and were shown in informal photos, like they were Instagram poses, Choosing was tough, but I asked for a girl named DaNa.
As I got up to answer the doorbell to my room I was anticipating a cute girl next door type. When I opened the door to see DaNa, I had one of those jaw dropping moments you see in an animated cartoon. The word stunner gets used a lot without much thought for its literal meaning. In this case, I truly was stunned, shocked at the sight of this model who stepped through the open door.
DaNa's photos had not done her justice. She was tall, a good 5'7" or so, and with tight, high waisted pants showing off a great figure: slender but curvy where it mattered down below. Her tits were small but matched perfectly with her elegant frame. She had short, wavy caramel colored hair, and her face was a ten.
DaNa had a coolness to her demeanor fitting her upscale looks, and after asking for her fee right away it took a while for me to break through the ice. It felt to me like an act, playing the hard-to-get good girl (she did let on about her religious background, and her real name reflected a recently-made saint), and while I could sense the facetiousness behind it, it still had me wondering.
This didn't get in the way of her willingly stripping down, and what a strip show it was. I've seen breathtaking sights in this world. The Grand Canyon, the Taj Mahal, Mount Everest. But these get close competition from the view of the Na pulling up her top to remove a lacy, black bra, and peeling off her tight pants to reveal her sexy panties. Watching her discard these raised my blood pressure even more (not to mention how it made my cock rise up and strain against my boxer shorts).
DaNa lay down and folded her arms on her chest, but I still had an unobstructed view of the lovely tattoos on her body, like floral designs on her shoulder and a round pattern surrounding her belly button. I leaned over to lightly kiss her lips, and she played at being shocked when I moved down to lick her pussy. Here her body's demands overcame her cool act, and she squirmed like crazy as I got her soaking wet.
I put on a condom and got on top of DaNa, and we moved to a nice rhythm, with me starting very slowly and moving deeper and faster as time passed. Later DaNa got onto all fours and we fucked in doggy. The view of her long, toned back fanning out into a round ass was fantastic. I grabbed her ass and bucked at a furious pace, with shrieks spilling out of her mouth. We finished this way, and DaNa lay there rubbing her pussy, simultaneously praising and complaining about the effects of my rod.
After DaNa showered I sat on the bed watching her drop her towel and pull on those exquisite panties and bra on her unbelievable body. We parted warmly, with me wondering if it would work out that I would see her again on my trip.
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September Seoul Day 6: Escort, Sophie (Bohemian Agency)
The forum has so much written about bogus independents / Backpage girls, and bad escort agencies, so in seeking to try another one I decided to try the one that seemed to get top marks, Bohemian. The girl I had originally wanted was the one who got rave reviews, Tina. However, when I emailed Bohemian they said that she was unavailable, because she had been grounded by her parents!
So I ordered up my second choice, Sophie. I knew Bohemian was one of the priciest agencies that would supply foreigners, but I still got a case of sticker shock when they told me that as a premium girl she cost 350,000 Won. I figured I would go for it anyway, and made the appointment.
Sophie rang at my hotel room door at 10 PM, exactly as requested, and I ushered in a very cute young lady in a preppy Burberry type skirt and top. I had expected a small framed girl, but not one so exquisitely petite. I appreciated that Sophie was friendly and, refreshingly, did not open up our interaction by demanding money. After a little small talk (she had a little bit of English) I handed that to her.
Right away I took advantage of Sophie 's small-ness by sitting on the edge of the bed and perching her on my knee while we light-kissed a little. I unbuttoned her shirt and unclasped her bra to reveal her tiny breasts, having high school flashbacks all the while. Her nipples were perfectly bite sized.
I soon had the rest of her outfit off, and mine as well, and she was laying tummy down with my dick in her mouth, giving me a good view of her tiny ass. We traded places as I gave her pussy a licking and then after getting the condom on pulled her up for fucking. Sophie looked so tiny under me, and when she mounted me she was a true spinner: after bucking on me in cowgirl I just rotated her around my shaft for some reverse action.
What made this experience unique was how Sophie scrunched up her face and squealed with passion (though I wonder how much pain given her small pussy). It was the closest I've ever experienced the kind of sex you see with the girls in Japanese porn. Even with her cute face, beyond the novelty of Sophie's size and J-girl mannerisms I didn't see how Sophie's luxury price was justified. She was pleasant and gave her full time and attention for the hour and fifteen minutes but it was not a truly passionate GFE session; it pains me to think that for that price I could have a dozen sessions in a Jakarta brothel, or in Angeles fill a room with 8 ferocious pinays!
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September Seoul Day 7: Anma, Treasure Island
One of the first things I noticed about the Richwell hotel (highly recommended at 70,000 per night in a room with huge tub and laptop) near Yeoksam was that its neighbor was Treasure Island Anma. I had seen a fleeting mention of the place from a post on this forum from a few years ago, but no location was listed so finding it so close to home was a pleasant surprise. It looked a bit derelict, however. It had the sign on a post outside, but the main entrance door, instead of glass or something flashy, appeared to be a sheet of grey sheet metal. So when I decided to visit I made my way into the open street-level car park underneath the main entry. I walked to the back of the garage, past the couple of cars parked there on this weekday early evening (around 6 PM).
I climbed the stairs and found a reception area at the top; this speakeasy-style entrance made me confident that this was the kind of place I was looking for. When the guy behind the counter saw me he conferred with a 30 or 40-something woman and then showed me a card written in English showing the 270,000 Won price. I was asked to take a seat in the adjacent barroom, complete With fake crystal chandeliers, high-backed velvety easy chairs, and random bottles on the shelf behind the poorly stocked bar.
I drank the juice the bartender gave me, and then the woman I saw earlier came over to escort me up a couple of floors in the elevator. She was friendly and held my hand as we ascended, and I totally would have gone to the room with her as she was a true MILF, sexy and slender, but alas she was only the mamasan.
But I was definitely not disappointed once I was led to a room and introduced to Coffee. She had caramel colored hair and terrific curves, and was super bubbly and smiley. Despite the language barrier we "joked" around throughout the initial wash down. From there she proceeded to give me one of the best body slide massages of my life, starting with a toe to neck cat bath that had me tingling at every lick. Coffee's round tits and rounder ass looked great glistening with nuru, and felt even better sliding over my body and especially my dick.
Her mouth was just as good around my cock, and we moved into a 69 to I could apply my own lips and tongue to Coffee's slick pussy and clit. Some missionary and energetic riding followed, but her ass was perfect for holding as I pumped her doggystyle to a hard cum. Of all the Anma visits on this Seoul trip, I'd rank this one the best.
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September Seoul Day 7: Anma, Eve
After my early evening visit to Treasure Island I got together with work colleagues which ended in the early hours of the morning. This felt like a night to finally try Eve Anma, near the Hak-dong subway station (near exit 1 or 2, on the first side street south of Hakdongno and east of Nonhyeonno), which I had passed by on the night I visited Dallas. The appeal of this place was the multi-girl rotation special. I had mostly given up hope of having the bizarre masked fluffer plus hot girl fucking sequence that I had read about for years on the Korea forum, so this twist seemed like it would be a decent replacement, in terms of a taste of quirky Korean style sex. And this combo, I had read, was not usually available until late, after midnight or so.
So I made my way to Eve at around 1 AM and descended the stairs (it felt like a subway station entrance) to the basement sliding door that opened at my approach. The place seemed busy, and after the old mamasan greeted me and I paid the 270,000 Won to the young counter guy, I was taken to a mostly empty room to wait; I laid a couple of cushions on the floor and dozed for a half hour or so until I was summoned and brought to a room.
And so started a parade of three women arriving one by one to wash me, fuck me, and then leave; wash, rinse and repeat. I've had threesomes before, and even a foursome in Angeles and in an El Salvador brothel, but nothing quite like this; those were a lot better, but this sequencing was interesting and piqued my curiosity about who would arrive next, the anticipation being a big part of the fun in this hobby.
Unfortunately, the ladies at Eve were nothing like the nubile cuties in the aforementioned escapades. They were MILFs, with the L better replaced with SOL ("sort of like" to fuck). They were somewhere in their 30's to mid 40's, and did have decent bodies, slender for their age. I had the feeling they would have been pretty good looking in their youth. Writing this a few weeks later I can't distinguish among them in any meaningful way (and I definitely never got their names) but I couldn't do so even that night. I do remember one being a lot cheerier and friendly than the other two, who seemed grumpy.
The sessions were all about a routine, with no kissing involved and me being very passive, which was probably just as well since I was tired and a bit drunk at that hour. Every session started out with a wash in the shower area, with a blowjob included. For the middle woman the entire segment was in the shower area, and is memorable for that. She washed me while I sat on a Japanese style chair with the open seat portion, kneeled down to suck my cock, and after slipping on a condom sat down on my dick and bobbed up and down, this being one of the more interesting positions I've experienced. I have some good memories of the other two women, separately, giving me catbaths and riding me on the bed with a good view available in the adjacent mirror. I think it was just the final one who got me to cum, the booze and late hour taking its toll on my capacities.
Was Eve fun? Sure, as a novelty, and I can't fault the performance, or in that context really complain about the women's looks too much. I could use the word mechanical for the sessions but the women did put in the effort and had some decent skills. It was my one foray into quirky Korean sex, so for that alone it was worthwhile.
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September Seoul Day 8: Red Light Districts, Itaewon / Hooker Hill
Learning about the various red light districts in Seoul had been a large part of my preparation for my trip. Just learning the names and locations, which ones were foreigner friendly, etc. Took some time; the forum was great but Rockit Reports had the best summaries. I eventually eliminated Miari and 588 as targets due to their distance from where I was staying (and reports of 588 not being foreigner friendly). Cheongi was on my list to visit, but my schedule never really allowed it, and I had the feeling that I would end up paying a lot for a 15 minute session. I've mongered in the real basic places like Panama where you cleaned your junk in the sink afterward, and that was fine with me, but I never liked the Amsterdam window girls scene and I feared that would be similar.
Itaewon did appeal to me, though, maybe because it featured in some of the earliest Forum reports I had read about Seoul, years ago, and for the Tijuana-like seediness I sensed from the reports. Plus there was the appeal of a foreigner-infused neighborhood, for mongering purposes (foreigner friendly) and for touristic appeal. When I got there on a Friday night, the first thing I did was have dinner at an excellent Russian restaurant.
I finally made it to the hill at about 8:30 pm, a lot later than I had anticipated as I had an escort appointment (see next report) for later that night. So I did feel kind of rushed, without the time to take my time as I would have preferred. As I made a first stroll (more like a hike) up the hill, I noticed that a number of places that had been mentioned in reports looked closed, whether for the night or permanently, I don't know. On the right side heading up I did notice a bar I had not seen mentioned before, Laura, with a hot looking hooker at the door, but I wondered if this was one of the newly opened trans bars I had read about. I did see other similar bars at the top of the hill, but the providers there looked much scarier than the one at Laura. I peeked into Happy Days but learned that the much-recommended Kaye would be arriving the next day for her weekend stint, and passed on Cherry, the big woman with the massive-tits who was there.
On my second round I was hailed by a girl in lingerie at the door at Eve (if I recall correctly). Suzy (I think that was her name) was cute, nicer than I expected based on what I had read about Itaewon. We negotiated about the session, me offering 90,000 for suck and fuck and her countering that with BBBJ she usually got 150,000. We met at 100,000 for 20 minutes, but then I gave in to Suzy's request for a lady drink so didn't come out too well. Between feeling rushed for the evening and Suzy- rushing through a mediocre BJ and fuck on a couch (though she was vocal) the action, I really never got very excited about the session and faked cumming at the end rather than endure much of an annoying hand job. I think I had seen a so-so report about Suzy, and I felt like I really should have heeded it.
I was pretty irritated at this point, but my mood brightened when I again reached the top of the hill and noticed that Shamrock, which had been dark on my previous loop, was now lit up. When I lingered I witnessed a miracle. It was a thick, curvy Venezuelan standing before me, beckoning me inside. I had actually been interested in and Shamrock all along because of reports about a Venezuelan of all things in residence, and I do love Latinas. At this time I was in desperate need of one, having tired of slighter Korean women, abrupt or uncommunicative bearing and mechanical sessions (not across the board, but the bad sessions, like the one I had just experienced, stuck in my head).
Ruby (I had read her name as Rosy, maybe I misheard) had just the kind of big, curvy ass and Latina attitude that I needed. Plus she had a great looking face. Rubi was friendly as we agreed on the price (130,000 Won) but also surprised that I knew about her being on the hill. Ruby slipped out of her bra and panties crawled sensually over to where I was lying on her bed. She kissed down my chest and licked my nipples before wrapping her lips around my dick.
The erotic scene was diminished because Rubi did not kiss nor allow her pussy to be licked. Even so, she talked sexy when I mounted her in missionary. She rode me next but the best was fucking her doggystyle, taking in the sight of a big, round booty the likes of which I had not seen on this trip, each of my hands taking a handful of ass cheek as I thrust hard. When we were done I expressed to Ruby how great it was to get together with a Latina and one with an ass I could really admire. Getting together with Ruby was a badly needed bit of diversity on my trip.
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September Seoul Day 8: Escort, DaNa replacing Min-G (DaSom Agency)
DaNa, the first escort that I had gotten from DaSom agency, had been great, and I decided to try another one of their girls hoping for similar success. Instead, what ensued ranks with my worst mongering experiences ever. But this is a tale of two escorts, so read on.
Min-G looked very cute on DaSom's various advertising websites, kitted out in slinky dresses and skimpy outfits. She arrived at my door at 11 PM, an hour later than I had requested (the agency had alerted me so I was ready), and I was annoyed that I had rushed back from Itaewon for no good reason. I was underwhelmed from the start, as she wore a sweater-top and slacks, and she was not unattractive but didn't have any real distinctive features.
The physical drawbacks, however, paled in comparison with her personality. Upon entering she abruptly demanded her money, and then asked if she could rest for a few minutes. Figuring that I would humor her and hopefully get more energy out of her later, I agreed. After 15 minutes roused herself and indicated she needed to sleep some more. Communication was not easy as neither of us had much of the other's language (she had the least English of the escorts I saw on the trip), and I decided to let her rest some more and would just extend the time to account for the full hour I paid for. As you will see, she apparently did not grasp this logic.
After a half hour of shut-eye I finally insisted she rouse herself so we could get started, and she reluctantly got out of her sweater and pants. She seemed not to grasp the custom of getting naked for sex, taking off her bra only after I nagged her about it. Without clothes her body was rather disappointing, lacking any curves or the spinner-type frame that Sophie from the other night had. In a word, she was ordinary.
She reached for the condom she had taken out of the package to put it on me without any foreplay, and of course I was not ready so indicated for her to suck my dick. Her blow job skills didn't even reach the ordinary level of her looks: it was wretched, the kind of performance that has you staring up at the ceiling and wishing you had just gone to sleep instead. When I got decently hard she put the condom on and got on top to ride me. She struggled to get my dick inside her pussy, and I decided to take the opportunity to excuse myself to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and then make another try.
To my shock, in the space of the three minutes I had been in the bathroom pissing and rinsing off my cock, Min-G had gotten dressed and was making a break for the door. I yelled at her, asking where she thought she was going, since we had been actually attempting some sexual activity for only 15 minutes. But she was out of there.
I shot off a series of furious emails to the agency, detailing Min-G's atrocious behavior. To their eternal credit, they took me at my word and came up with a brilliant solution to compensate me for this disaster: they proposed sending DaNa to me, gratis.
DaNa arrived half an hour later, and when I opened the door to her gorgeous, smiling face, she apologized for the fiasco with Min-G. This time she completely dropped her shy-act, and I again gazed with wonder as she stripped away her blouse and tight pants and then discarded her lacy bra and panties. When she lay down on the bed we met out lips in some light kisses, and I spent a good while just running my hand over the contours of her sleek body, tracing her sexy tattoos, while she stroked my stiff cock.
I slid my body down so I could lick DaNa's pussy, starting excruciatingly slowly and building to a tongue-muscle taxing pace as she writhed on the bed, clutching the sheets with her eyes screwed shut. When she climaxed, I came up for air, my face covered with her juices. DaNa was ready for my penis inside her, so I condomed up and got on top in missionary. Beginning with shallow, tentative thrusts, I slid my dick deeper and built up some speed, grinding to stimulate her G-spot. With our arms wrapped around each other, with my head resting on her shoulder so I could see DaNa's beautiful face, we rocked furiously together in unison until we came together hard.
After DaNa showered I relaxed on the bed, blissfully watching her put on her lingerie and outer clothes. We embraced for a sweet goodbye, and she was off, having redeemed this evening. I was grateful to DaNa, and have to give great credit to DaSom agency for being accountable for the performance of their girls, and doing what it took to correct a bad situation, and quickly. Not all agencies would have done that, I give them high marks and do recommend them.
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September Seoul Day 9: Massage Parlor, Unknown Name near Renaissance Hotel
I loved the Yeoksam area; I'd recommend it to mongers for its good subway connections to sex options, which are even walkable from there if you have the energy. Even better, it's got plenty of options of its own. I've mentioned Treasure Island Anma, but just about a block west (on Teheran-ro 33-gil or one of the parallel side streets, I can't pinpoint it), is another Anma though I forget the name. Further west across Nonhyeon-ro and a short way down a steep hill was a place called A1, I believe.
In terms of massage parlors, there are a couple of Thai massage places on or just off Eonju-ro 93 gil (an entertainment and dining street through the neighborhood). There is a barber pole place also a block west of the Richwell, on the second floor, but I was told "no sex" when I stopped in.
On my first walk through the neighborhood, during my first night in Seoul as I wandered a bit looking for my hotel, I had passed a barber pole massage parlor a few blocks north of the Renaissance hotel. I decided to eventually try it out. It is on the west side of the street and in a basement; as for a name, I never got it.
On my visit I paid the requested 120,000 Won and was shown to a room with an open doorway, with a curtain for cover. Out of my clothes and into a bathrobe, the mamasan showed me to a shower room where I cleaned up. Back in the cubbyhole, I was soon joined by a tall, slender woman in her 30's. She would definitely not have been my choice for looks, probably in the same class as the women at Eve.
But could she ever give a massage; it was outstanding. After I flipped and she finished some more straight massage, she took off her bra and panties and began to give me nice catbath and an excellent blowjob. What this woman lacked in the looks department she made up for in experience and skill. She mounted me and rode me well, and we finished with some intense missionary action, all on the massage table. Her looks aside, it was definitely a satisfying session.
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September Seoul Day 10: Massage Parlor, VIP-MVP
One massage place near Gangnam subway station had been on my list of places to visit from the start of my trip, but for whatever reason I kept putting it off until my last free evening. I learned what a mistake it was to leave it for the end of my trip; I would have definitely repeated my visit. VIP-MVP had gotten only one review on ISG (as VIP, but both names are on display on and around the shop), but it was a very positive one. I easily found it, going south out of exit 5 of Gangnam station and then making the first right and then another right; there are prominent, well-lit signs for the place.
As I entered I instantly got the vibe that the place would be as good as advertised, based on the warm, friendly welcome from the manager, who greeted me with a huge smile. I paid him the 110,000 Won he requested (easily the best bargain of the trip) and he showed me to a room. It had a massage table, a lockable cabinet for my things, and an attached bathroom. After I showered I got a knock on the door, and opened it to find Yangbu (I probably got that name wrong, but I was butchering it even that night, but then again I have probably gotten most of these Korean girl names wrong!
Whatever her name, she was super friendly and a total sexpot, with a curvy body, caramel colored wavy hair, and a wicked smile. She began with a good back massage and when she stripped down she massaged me with her nice, round tits. After some catbath treatment to my front she took my dick in her mouth for a good blowjob. We followed that with some enthusiastic fucking; she was energetic as she rode me, and I grabbed her round ass as I pumped her in doggy before a nice strong cum to end the session, and the trip. Leaving VIP-MVP for the end was a regret, but I was glad to at least make it there once, and it was a great way to end the trip!
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That was good
[QUOTE=IbnButtita;1963086]...even with a Korean vocabulary of about three words, communication was never really a stumbling block...[/QUOTE]Very impressive! Your reports read like an adventure. You seem to be the kind of wingman I would like to have. My Korean vocabulary is a little bit more than yours but I still would not feel comfortable doing what you did. Bravo!
I went to Seoul last year but I was hosted by a working girl that I had met in the US. She was with me pretty much the entire 4-day stay. I enjoyed her company but could not venture on my own.
I definitely would love to replicate your experience. Thanks for taking the time to document your adventure.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;1962785]Save another 2-300.
Go on a weekend trip to Thailand / Philippines (200-300 k return).
Have as much pussy as you want in penthouse suite...threesomes included.[/QUOTE]Normally, the flight ticket to Thailand from Korea is normally 500 K 600 K. If you buy cheap airlines such as Jeju, Jin or Airasia it still would cost you 300-500 K.
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[QUOTE=IbnButtita;1963102]The forum has so much written about bogus independents / Backpage girls, and bad escort agencies, so in seeking to try another one I decided to try the one that seemed to get top marks, Bohemian. The girl I had originally wanted was the one who got rave reviews, Tina. However, when I emailed Bohemian they said that she was unavailable, because she had been grounded by her parents!
So I ordered up my second choice, Sophie. I knew Bohemian was one of the priciest agencies that would supply foreigners, but I still got a case of sticker shock when they told me that as a premium girl she cost 350,000 Won. I figured I would go for it anyway, and made the appointment.
Sophie rang at my hotel room door at 10 PM, exactly as requested, and I ushered in a very cute young lady in a preppy Burberry type skirt and top. I had expected a small framed girl, but not one so exquisitely petite. I appreciated that Sophie was friendly and, refreshingly, did not open up our interaction by demanding money. After a little small talk (she had a little bit of English) I handed that to her...[/QUOTE]I also had Sophie as well. They told me she was a premium girl and charged me 270 I think for an hour. They literally change the price every time. Bohemian are seriously just so shady. I have talked about them before, but I just wanted to comment on that specific issue.
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[QUOTE=IbnButtita;1963113]One massage place near Gangnam subway station had been on my list of places to visit from the start of my trip, but for whatever reason I kept putting it off until my last free evening. I learned what a mistake it was to leave it for the end of my trip; I would have definitely repeated my visit. VIP-MVP had gotten only one review on ISG (as VIP, but both names are on display on and around the shop), but it was a very positive one. [/QUOTE]Great series of reports! I think my review of the place is the one you mentioned. I've visited twice and greatly enjoyed myself both times. Interestingly, both girls I had were Chinese, so I was under the impression that all girls there were non-Korean. I got contact information for both, but haven't been able to set up anything outside of the shop.
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[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;1963284]Normally, the flight ticket to Thailand from Korea is normally 500 K 600 K. If you buy cheap airlines such as Jeju, Jin or Airasia it still would cost you 300-500 K.[/QUOTE]A quick search on skyscanner gives multiple flights in the 200-350 k range wit China Easter, China Southern, Air China. All for January. Most with one layover (total flight time 8-12 hrs).
Plenty of cheap flights around, even cheaper accommodation for the weekend, and even cheaper girls.
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[QUOTE=IbnButtita;1963086]I was in Seoul for work meetings in September, my second time in Korea but the first time with mongering on the agenda. I had gotten into mongering and reading ISG shortly after my first trip to Korea ten years ago, and had read up on things in Seoul from time to time out of curiosity (and out of a general interest in Korean massage girls, a few of whom I had sessions with in years past). So I realize that I finally came back to Seoul after the passing of what many consider "good old days. " That said, I still had a good time during my week there, though the fun was definitely not cheap.
[/QUOTE]Great set of reports!
He came, he saw, he mongered!
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[QUOTE=IbnButtita;1963108]
I finally made it to the hill at about 8:30 pm, a lot later than I had anticipated as I had an escort appointment (see next report) for later that night. So I did feel kind of rushed, without the time to take my time as I would have preferred. As I made a first stroll (more like a hike) up the hill, I noticed that a number of places that had been mentioned in reports looked closed, whether for the night or permanently, I don't know. On the right side heading up I did notice a bar I had not seen mentioned before, Laura, with a hot looking hooker at the door, but I wondered if this was one of the newly opened trans bars I had read about. I did see other similar bars at the top of the hill, but the providers there looked much scarier than the one at Laura. I peeked into Happy Days but learned that the much-recommended Kaye would be arriving the next day for her weekend stint, and passed on Cherry, the big woman with the massive-tits who was there.
On my second round I was hailed by a girl in lingerie at the door at Eve (if I recall correctly). Suzy (I think that was her name) was cute, nicer than I expected based on what I had read about Itaewon. We negotiated about the session, me offering 90,000 for suck and fuck and her countering that with BBBJ she usually got 150,000. We met at 100,000 for 20 minutes, but then I gave in to Suzy's request for a lady drink so didn't come out too well. Between feeling rushed for the evening and Suzy- rushing through a mediocre BJ and fuck on a couch (though she was vocal) the action, I really never got very excited about the session and faked cumming at the end rather than endure much of an annoying hand job. I think I had seen a so-so report about Suzy, and I felt like I really should have heeded it.
The erotic scene was diminished because Rubi did not kiss nor allow her pussy to be licked. Even so, she talked sexy when I mounted her in missionary. She rode me next but the best was fucking her doggystyle, taking in the sight of a big, round booty the likes of which I had not seen on this trip, each of my hands taking a handful of ass cheek as I thrust hard. When we were done I expressed to Ruby how great it was to get together with a Latina and one with an ass I could really admire. Getting together with Ruby was a badly needed bit of diversity on my trip.[/QUOTE]Laura at Laura Bar (go figure) is the real thing, though I wondered if she was a tranny, too. She is hot, but a little reserved and business-like. Suzy is cute, but no fun, I'd seen her once about 5 years ago, but that was it.
I've seen Ruby a few times, the last being my last trip there in April. She's always let me eat her pussy, but had to hit it covered. She shaves, but it's still like sandpaper, the most coarse on the hill. Ruby's like a Latina version of Bean- a whole lot of ass.
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Went again. Good time again. I don't know why people say they don't serve foreigners. I never have a problem taking care of business there. Of course, you have to walk around a little, get rejected a few times, but there are good looking spinners willing to take you in. Best bang for the buck, I think. Some girls will BBFS. I've never had CBJ there. I am also a non-asian foreigner but I speak Korean pretty well. But that doesn't matter. If they are going to turn you down they do it before you can even speak.
Happy hunting! I am going to check out some of those off the beaten track anmas that our friend has posted about. Great job by the way! I had a trip like that in Hong Kong earlier this year, but lack the writing skill to make it sound as good.
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Great Report Ibn Buttita
This is the best reporting on this page in a long time and you truly have a talent for writing.
Big Thank You.
V / R.
LM.
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Thanks everyone for the kind words, it was a fun trip. Sorry for my awful spelling of the girls' names!
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Hello everybody
Found this website by luck and checked all last 30-40 pages and got many good info.
I've been living in Seoul for pretty while, but almost haven't got any experience in P4P here.
Since its really underground and I never had a problem with just girls.
Pretty sure its very useless info, but I really feel that just lurking around and not sharing is bad:
1. My first experience was long time ago, when one of my friends came to visit me.
As its always happens we got drunk in Itaewon and were already on the way home when he asked if we can have some "fun".
I asked taxi driver (well I showed him what we want) and he was really excited and said that he knows a great place.
Don't remember the area he took us to, but it was under the bridge. Small two or one floor houses (well you can't really call it a house. More looked like a doghouse).
As I recall it was really cheap (like 60-70 k). Some old woman met us, took us in to the small room, we could barely stand there because room was that narrow.
Two gorilas came in, we rushed out laughing.
2. My another friends (a couple) came to Seoul. So my good female's friend BF, who was rich Korean man, invited us to the room salon. But not usual one, its with all trannys inside (It's a trap).
Damn, this shit was nasty. Only now after reading forum about what room salons are I know. Back then, I didn't know what expect at all.
Big room with sofas and table inside. Whiskey, food, two trannys to accompany us (and I was the only single guy there).
Need to say to whom all attention went? No matter how good the looked (and they looked pretty well), I would never even kiss a tranny.
But at that time it was all about fun, we were leaving room to the main hall for tranny show, we were inviting some groups like BB and stuff to our room to perform (there was no girl fucking herself with a fruit).
Overall I heard that Korean guy paid something like 2 K $.
That was pretty all (except that I was dating a drink girl for a while, but she was assuring me that it was only for drinks and who knows. Doesn't matter anymore).
Until I went to biz. Trip to China. My colleague invited me to a massage where we were supposed to get a happy ending. Which were more like unhappy ending.
All girls refused to do HJ / BJ and there were not pretty at all.
Then we tried to call for escort to our hotel, but girls were "scared" since we were foreigners.
So this trip planted a seed to my head of something un-accomplished.
Right after I came back to Seoul and my GF was out of the city, I started searching. The best I found is RLD (not my thing) and escort.
A. Lets call it MR. X escort.
300 $ per hour (BBBJ, CFS, 1 shot).
Girl was not the type the girl you meet in the club. She was rather "library girl", pretty shy with pretty face and standard body (slim with little curves).
To my surprise she gave good BJ (was trying to stuff it all in her little mouth) and great sex. She legitimately came 3 times.
4/5.
Be. Next day I couldn't stop thinking of repeating same experience, however by checking BP I was realizing that 300 $ is a top price.
It happens to me very often, I find the best in the beginning, starting to think that I can find better and fail.
So I called another escort, quickly agreed. That "manager" sent me pictures of available girls, I picked one, she came.
She came late, different from photo (but pretty close from the worst side of course) and immediately started undressing to take a shower.
I respect her business mind set, however even with P4P there should be at least some "game".
So it was kind of turn off. Hard to say anything, except that she had disappointing body (she was like 22-23 with already coming cellulitis. Too much slim legs, that looked awful on her body).
Someone you would meet in the shitty club surrounded by same type teenagers giggling all the time.
I couldn't cum, she was not trying to hard to help me there.
3/5.
C. Again, I was disappointed with previous day so decided to finish my marathon with a good ending.
Mister X, proposed me higher rank girl for 450 k. (service all the same).
This is first and last time when I got actual girl with the photo.
Little shorter than me (and I am over 180 cm), awesome boobs (fake though) and awesome ass (like real ass, not small, not too big). Very pretty face.
This ***** but not doll ***** type. We fucked twice (she insisted on the second time). I am very bad at details, but she was awesome.
10/10.
The. Just had to call for her again. 11/10.
E. Again spending 450 k was choking me, so Mr. X sent me regular girl. Pretty standard pretty short Korean girl (not the club type. Somebody you would meet in cafe with a cute smile).
What was good were her awesome natural boobs (C, I guess) and that she spent with me more than 1 hour, because I couldn't cum. She did finish her job and left only after it.
Her pussy was too tight, which was painful for both of us (condom really rubs me if the hole is too small). 4/5.
F. Decided to have one fun night out of house. My biggest disappointment. Went to BP again:
First one was Na-RI (you can easily find her by name there). Fake photos, but she was pretty cute, but nothing special. 3/5.
Second one was kindergarten teacher Hyeri. Just don't. It felt like a fucking plastic monster jumped out of a box. Ugliest surgery result on my memory. Slim body, couldn't cum.
I don't even want to think where you can meet her, maybe in the zoo.
I am surprised that I am able to operate sexually after that. 1/5.
So all in all, I was really disappointed with all this BP shit going on.
What I really liked is really expensive. Except that 450 $ she worth it, but you have to be rich. This is the life, so can't blame anyone but myself.
All other 250 $ doesn't cost a shit.
So guys, could you please give me some advice.
1. What is the deal with officetels girls? Why they are cheaper than escort? I found this website ygm1 with full spectre of officetel, hyugatell and lip clubs?
Is it worth trying them?
2. What is lip clubs? I did search but couldn't find anything. You come there and they just blow you?
3. Can somebody finally confirm if Bohemian girls on the photos are real?
I need your advice, because spending 400-500 on two average / nothing memorable girls does not worth one girl for the same price (for me at least).
Thanks.
Hek.
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To the previous post
Sorry, I didn't make my questions clear enough about officetell girls:
What makes them cheaper than escort? (especially that for escort you have pay extra for the hotel).
And how reliable photos are of this girls?
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[QUOTE=Hekkk;1966016]Found this website by luck and checked all last 30-40 pages and got many good info.
I've been living in Seoul for pretty while, but almost haven't got any experience in P4P here.
Since its really underground and I never had a problem with just girls.
Pretty sure its very useless info, but I really feel that just lurking around and not sharing is bad:
1. My first experience was long time ago, when one of my friends came to visit me.
As its always happens we got drunk in Itaewon and were already on the way home when he asked if we can have some "fun".
I asked taxi driver (well I showed him what we want) and he was really excited and said that he knows a great place.
Don't remember the area he took us to, but it was under the bridge. Small two or one floor houses (well you can't really call it a house. More looked like a doghouse).
As I recall it was really cheap (like 60-70 k). Some old woman met us, took us in to the small room, we could barely stand there because room was that narrow..[/QUOTE]Hekk,
Interesting post. It would be helpful if you included names. "Mr. X"? Most of us have been around the Seoul scene for a while and we know of certain agencies and girls. If you give us the names of the agencies and girls, we would be better able to make recommendations, and to not make repeat recommendations.
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Recent encounter
Hi guys,
Here is a report that is a bit overdue. One night, I had the itch.
I got a motel room called 2 girls from backpage. The first one who said yes, I confirmed.
I canceled the other booking. [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]. Even though I canceled the booking, she still showed up 40 minutes after the cancellation. I texted her manager and said "why is she here after I canceled?" – no response, of course. She was fake, fake, fake. Not even close to age and the picture.
I asked her to leave, and she insisted that she was the one in the pictures, and demanded 50 k won for the "taxi" fare. I told her to gtfo and not waste my time.
The second girl arrived:
[URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/independent-girl-yejin/4014487[/URL]
She was not the one in the pictures, but she was cute enough to do. She arrived two hours later because she was having "dinner" with her "family". Meaning, she was screwing another customer. By this time, I was thinking with my little head (we have all been there) and decided to have her stay. She seemed cool enough, but as the session went on, her behavior became quite annoying. "Don't touch my hair", "you are messing up my makeup". She then told me to hurry up and cum. I told her that if she tells me that, it would take longer. She pouted like a child and told me again to hurry up. Now, the one thing I hate the most is when girls demand me to hurry up, especially if we haven't even hit the 30 minutes (out of an hour) mark. She then started to curse me under her breath in Korean, not knowing that I understood her. At this point, I started to hate fuck her. After telling me to hurry up for the 3rd time, I was like screw this.
I pulled the condom off (I was on top and she didn't realize it) and continued to hate fuck her until I busted my nut deep inside her. When she realized what had happened, she started screaming and ran off to wash herself. I pulled the condom back on and ripped a hole in it. She got on the phone with her pimp / manager and told him what happened. He was really pissed off. He asked me why I cip and I told him that the condom broke (I lied) and that I didn't cip. He demanded more money, but I told him no. She got on the phone and confirmed that the condom was broken and I even sent him a picture of it. He started yelling at me and I, in turn, yelled back at him and told him that cheap Korean condoms break easily and that he should use Trojans, which never break.
It gets better. By this time, she had finished her shower and she was so distraught over the incident that she ran out of the motel room without the envelope containing her payment. When I realized this, I got the hell out of the motel. The last thing I want to deal with is an angry Korean gangster mofo. Sure enough, from the side of the parking area, I saw a huge angry Korean dude enter, then leave the motel, but I was out of there. Score one for the good guys!
As I said before, mongering is like a box of chocolates – you never know what you will get. Anything can happen and almost will!
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[QUOTE=Hekkk;1966024]Sorry, I didn't make my questions clear enough about officetell girls:
What makes them cheaper than escort? (especially that for escort you have pay extra for the hotel).
And how reliable photos are of this girls?[/QUOTE]Your experience follows the same pattern that has been described in this forum over the last few months / years. All those ads on BP are from the same group of agencies (probably between 3 and 5).
The answer to your question:
There are two main types of independent escorts in Korea, those that cater to locals and those that cater to foreigners / tourists.
In any market, the foreigner / tourist prices will always be higher because the seller knows you don't know any better. You are essentially paying what I call "inexperience tax", what others like to call foreigner tax.
Escorts and agencies that cater to foreigners know you can't navigate the Korean scene that well, especially if you don't speak Korean. Even if you can speak Korean, not every hooker will want to service the foreigner. These agencies and escorts take advantage of that and maximize their opportunity to empty your wallet while doing as little as possible.
Officetels are cheaper because they have to compete with each other for clients. Foreign-catered agencies and independents are expensive because they don't have that much competition. There are only about 5 legit foreigner-centered independents that openly advertise in Korea, if we add the ones that appear and disappear every now and then, the number jumps to 10, maybe 15.
So 15 independents max + 5 agencies max, for hundreds or even thousands of horny foreign mongerers and tourists = little incentive to offer competitive rates or services.
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Yeongdeungpo RLD
I was out to a friend's wedding and found myself near Yeongdeungpo Station so I walked down the RLD just for fun. No one pays attention to me normally because I am white. I did not expect any attention on Saturday night at 8 pm.
Most shops were open and I got called over a couple times. I kept walking to the end of the row and turned left to circle back to the main road. About eight girls had makeshift plastic glass house type structures with heaters insidethat jutted out onto the sidewalk. A couple times I could see the red light bedroom behind them. Many gestured to me asI walked by. At the next pedestrian intersection, I saw a streetwalker all in black watching people. She smiled and said Hello, in English as I walked by.
I had just come from Incheon and was very tired, so the report ends herh. Many girls ignored me, but I was surprised at the attention I got this evening. Maybe things are changing there.
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Following a brother's report here. Visited MVP. VIP massage at Gangnam.
The price give to me was 120 krw. Went into the room, showered and press the bell. Soon came a rather beautiful lady. After some simple massage, she begin to take off everything and started with a condom BJ. Sad. Service wasn't that good. Pumped for 10 minutes before I cane.
Found out later that the ladies working here are not Korean. All are Chinese, but they know Korean language.
She is quite pretty with nice boobs though.
But spending 120 kwr on a Chinese lady, I feels its not worth it.
Anybody has contact or advice on how to go for those Korean officetel girls?
I know 0 Korean.
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Sangbong station
[QUOTE=Phloppy;1820922]That's really too bad. I know it was foreigner friendly because I went there a few times and had no problems. Have to find another one I guess. I have heard there are some good places around Sangbong Station.[/QUOTE]Do you know what exit # are the anmas? If not, I will go exploring there next month on my annual field trip to Seoul.
Peace out.
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[QUOTE=LegolasLee99;1966771]Following a brother's report here. Visited MVP. VIP massage at Gangnam.
The price give to me was 120 krw. Went into the room, showered and press the bell. Soon came a rather beautiful lady. After some simple massage, she begin to take off everything and started with a condom BJ. Sad. Service wasn't that good. Pumped for 10 minutes before I cane.
Found out later that the ladies working here are not Korean. All are Chinese, but they know Korean language.
She is quite pretty with nice boobs though.
But spending 120 kwr on a Chinese lady, I feels its not worth it.
Anybody has contact or advice on how to go for those Korean officetel girls?
I know 0 Korean.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear you didn't have a good time. My visits have always been nice, but I actually prefer Chinese girls over Koreans. It's always a YMMV game, huh?
Officetel girls are going to be very, very difficult if you have no Korean language ability. You can find listings through various websites. I'm not sure about the rules of posting them here, but PM me and I can send you a link. Everything is in Korean, but with some Google translating you can probably figure it out enough to get the phone number and call. You'll get rejected most of the time, but you might get lucky and have a manager accept a foreign customer if you make enough inquiries. Your best bet, though, is to find a Korean friend to assist you with booking, though many still might not accept you if you're foreign.
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Officetel + VIP MVP + Lip cafe
Hello everybody,
Forum seems not very active recently, so trying to fresh it up.
I had some free time on weekends and was thinking between officetel, anma and Lip Cafe. Is there any sickness called "prostitution addiction" ? Because that's what I am experiencing recently.
As I mentioned before, there is site ygm1 which contents everything (officetels, anma, lip cafes, kiss cafes, room salons and others). All in Korean, but with minimum language should be no problem, problem will be to have conversation over the phone.
Purpose: find something that can substitute escort service and basically try something new.
What I had: several hours each day + 300 W in total.
Day 1:
I am not big fan of massage (especially being massaged by a blind man) so decided to go with officetel located around Gangnam area (guess why).
There was post before that standard price is 130 K + at (depends on girl). I was looking for highest price girls.
I am Gyopo and speak bad Korean, but I can usually understand if conversation is not about drilling comets in the space. So they all knew I am not native speaker from the first second.
First officetel: guy asked me to send him my business card, but the girl I wanted was not available.
Second: told me that for foreigners their rate is 250 k.
Third: Said "sorry no foreigners".
Forth: Long conversation, explaining him that I am all Korean except the language (this is first time when I actually had to persuade somebody about it). Girl I wanted wasn't there so he offered other one with cheaper rate - 180 w in total (actually big respect for it, since he could mix the girls and I would never know. As pictures were showing bodies only without faces). I came to quite well looking officetel located in Gangnam. Guy who met me there did not look like mob at all, typical ajjasi. Typical ajjasi was always looking around if we have a tail or no and took to another officetel (less fancy). Told me room number and took the money.
Girl was pretty short, face 6. 5/10 and body 7/10 (I am picky), but overall was bangable. I smoked, brushed my teeth and she told me to undress (why nobody ever wants to undress the guy. There is so much sex in it).
Asked her why they are so not foreigner-friendly because of girls or because of company policy, she said "I don't know". Awesome answer explaining everything.
She prepared condom and lubricant (which is very turning off point for me). What happened after was an anecdote: when I took off my underwear she started explaining to me that if my the is too big, it will hurt her and she asked if BJ & HJ only is OK? I told her let's start and see. She started sucking and when it wasn't even fully hard she started whining "oh too big, too big". Typically when you hear its a good sign, this time it wasn't promising positive result. Suddenly I realized that I am taking a part in maneken challenge when my the is standing without any action around him and girl was staring at the phone, texting to the typical ajjasi.
Also it was the first time when two total strangers talked about my the in front of me. According to Japanese porn my the is big, according to Korean girls it's bigger that the average, according to US porn its small.
I got a call from the guy, he said "dude your the is too big" get down. I asked to find me another girl but he said now are all busy (with smaller dicks I guess?) and refunded me cash.
In the end I had my dick sucked for free, blue balls and overall understanding what is "officetel girls".
On the way back I saw "VIP MASSAGE" sign on officetel. Went in to see, appeared to be "VIP-MVP" massage I've read here before.
Man greeted me, took me to the small room with massaged bed and bathroom, told me to take a shower and ring the bell once I am ready. Asked if I can choose the girl, he said OK.
After the shower and pushing "ding-dong" he came with a girl and gently pushed her inside. Awesome "you can choose" experience.
Thai girl, with 6/10 face and 7/10 body. Massage+BBBJ+boom-boom. In the end, I asked her if I can CIM and she said OK. Usually I have hard times with cuming from a BJ but this girl knew exactly what to do.
Everything was O. K and worth money (120 W) in my opinion. She was complimenting me all the time and giving me hints to go for dinner, drink, travel together to Thailand and others. I wasn't ready to commit with girl from massage so passed this opportunity.
After massage I was sitting in the burger place and looking at the cashier girl who looked like 5/10, who actually chose to work rather than selling her pussy. Good choice of her.
Day 2:
I was really limited in time, so went with Lip cafe. Most of them did not pick up the phone, since it was around 13:00, finally I got one answer and dude simply said "call me when you are here".
(Sinrim station). I was looking for so called "emperior course" when two girls suck you. Through hard instructions over the phone, I finally found the place (from exit #5 I think, go straight before Paris baguete turn left and then building on your right. Located on the 3rd floor. Windows are tinted with white cover and clearly stating famous letter "K".
Emperiour course was not available, so I just chose two girls blowing me in a row.
Room was really uncomfortable, with leather bed and tiny leather pillow on it. I crossed the fingers and it didn't help. Chubby shorty squeezed in to the room. The guy who opened the door for me was also chubby.
And second girl was also chubby. I guess Sinrim has high concentration of samgyopsal places which affects people who work there badly.
Honestly, I don't really want to go in details, because this is not experience I want to remember. She ordered me to take off my clothe and started sucking.
This is first time in my life when I was thinking that it should be me who gets paid for it.
I was trying reducing the damage and telling her "jerk" then "no, no blow" then "no no jerk" but nothing helped. I didn't finish and girl said don't stand up because second girl will come right now.
I didn't cross the fingers that time and screw it. Second chubby (but taller) came in. Totally undressed (I should have choose course A, when girl doesn't have to undress).
Closed my eyes and started to think of my Korean friend who is really innocent girl to screw, so I didn't. Came exactly before ring belled. HJ was really good though.
Rank? 3/10 for all three of them (2 points that guy was patient with giving me directions over the phone and 1 point for HJ from the 2nd girl. Otherwise they would get minus rank and fail the semester in my uni).
80 K in total for 15+15 mins.
Final thoughts:
I will repeat office girls experience one day. 100% sure that you can find a good looking with good attitude girl there. Photos on some of the ads should be pretty accurate.
Lip cafe I will probably repeat but around gangnam area. Photos were NOT accurate (if word accurate can be used here).
I've met here complains for giving exact directions because of LE issues. Can go for a long speech here. Do you really think that LE in Korea doesn't know a sh1 t? You really think that they would check this forum for directions?
However posting girl's face photo is bad, I totally agree with that. But again. How many girls you saw in the porn? Thousands. Japanese porn? Is Japan culture less conservative than in Korea?
Most of that girls, I am pretty sure are from provinces. What % is that her friends / family are checking porn site with tag "Korean hotty"?
Let's be realistic about this. Internet is overloaded with all types of shit.
LE in Korea is very strong. If they wanted to close all this places, it would take them no more than 1 months easily. Be cautious but do not overreact.
Best regards to all.
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Long legged provider
[QUOTE=RainMania;1958861]I told the Ajummas I was looking for BBFS with a solid provider.
The provider I saw was definitely older, but great body, so I'm pretty sure she wasn't A-row.[/QUOTE]I made some "research" in Incheon Yellow House for this woman, but didn't find her. Could you help?
Houses in the be-row (on the left side) are only smaller and have no showers for customers.
Houses in the A-row are Yogwan-style with bigger sleeping-rooms and shower. So maybe this girl was there?
But also again good experiences: many ajumas in A-row, where the girls providers are located, invite foreigners. Prize is 100.000, but lubricated.
B-row has some older, but really friendly and open girls, maybe not the prettiest, BBFS often possible with some Korean language ability. Prizes range from 60.000 to 80.000.
Action starts at 9 pm.
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King's Club
I see a lot of people post about getting pros off of Backpage and other sites for upwards of 250,000 for a session. Myself, I think that's a bit much for just an hour session, but to each their own.
If you don't know about King's Club in Itaewon (which I am sure a lot of us in this forum do), it is full of Filipina women, about 60% usually hot. If you are in there Monday to Thursday, you can easily get one to go home with you for the night for between 200 to 300. As long as you can chat them up well, you can get away with just buying them only 1 of their 10,000 won drinks. However, I've watched a few friends get suckered into the 50,000 won ones cause they got weak in the knees.
I brought one home last Thursday for 220,000 and had already negotiated everything with her beforehand at the bar. FS 3 times (twice before bed, one in the morning), BBBJ, CIM optional, so forth. It was great, she had a great attitude and a wonderful ass (more shape than the usual Korean). The advantage of going there too is getting to choose, in person, your type of girl. Again, if you are there on a Friday or Saturday, it is hard to negotiate with the girls for under 300,000. Only real disadvantage with them is that at some point, they will probably bring up family back home needing money or something, but I just change the subject when that happens.
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[QUOTE=Hekkk;1967436]
As I mentioned before, there is site ygm1 which contents everything (officetels, anma, lip cafes, kiss cafes, room salons and others). All in Korean, but with minimum language should be no problem, problem will be to have conversation over the phone.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report and the site. I just checked it out. You might want to also look at abam42 as there seem to be more listings there than on ygm1.
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Noraebang help
Looking for a noraebang and wanted to figure out what some terms meant. I did some searching on-line and w / Google translate understand a bit. Is this right?
Agashi. Younger, less willing.
Chomishi. A little older, but more willing.
Mishi. Will do anything for $$.
Also, what's gumishik?
Will most noraebangs know these terms and be able to supply? I've been before and just asked for an agashi. Sometimes they're willing, sometimes not.
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[QUOTE=PegInThePoke;1967876]I see a lot of people post about getting pros off of Backpage and other sites for upwards of 250,000 for a session. Myself, I think that's a bit much for just an hour session, but to each their own.
If you don't know about King's Club in Itaewon (which I am sure a lot of us in this forum do), it is full of Filipina women, about 60% usually hot. If you are in there Monday to Thursday, you can easily get one to go home with you for the night for between 200 to 300. As long as you can chat them up well, you can get away with just buying them only 1 of their 10,000 won drinks. However, I've watched a few friends get suckered into the 50,000 won ones cause they got weak in the knees.
I brought one home last Thursday for 220,000 and had already negotiated everything with her beforehand at the bar. FS 3 times (twice before bed, one in the morning), BBBJ, CIM optional, so forth. It was great, she had a great attitude and a wonderful ass (more shape than the usual Korean). The advantage of going there too is getting to choose, in person, your type of girl. Again, if you are there on a Friday or Saturday, it is hard to negotiate with the girls for under 300,000. Only real disadvantage with them is that at some point, they will probably bring up family back home needing money or something, but I just change the subject when that happens.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry but Filipina for 220 k while Korean girls for 240 k? You're talking like there's a huge gap when I fact 240 k is market price for Korean FL while 220 k more than double the rate. Disagree completely.
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[QUOTE=Ecchi;1968064]I'm sorry but Filipina for 220 k while Korean girls for 240 k? You're talking like there's a huge gap when I fact 240 k is market price for Korean FL while 220 k more than double the rate. Disagree completely.[/QUOTE]He said 220 k for the night.
Multiple pops. Fantastic value IMO.
Will definitely be checking this out.
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[QUOTE=PegInThePoke;1967876]I see a lot of people post about getting pros off of Backpage and other sites for upwards of 250,000 for a session. Myself, I think that's a bit much for just an hour session, but to each their own.
If you don't know about King's Club in Itaewon (which I am sure a lot of us in this forum do), it is full of Filipina women, about 60% usually hot. If you are in there Monday to Thursday, you can easily get one to go home with you for the night for between 200 to 300. As long as you can chat them up well, you can get away with just buying them only 1 of their 10,000 won drinks. However, I've watched a few friends get suckered into the 50,000 won ones cause they got weak in the knees.
I brought one home last Thursday for 220,000 and had already negotiated everything with her beforehand at the bar. FS 3 times (twice before bed, one in the morning), BBBJ, CIM optional, so forth. It was great, she had a great attitude and a wonderful ass (more shape than the usual Korean). The advantage of going there too is getting to choose, in person, your type of girl. Again, if you are there on a Friday or Saturday, it is hard to negotiate with the girls for under 300,000. Only real disadvantage with them is that at some point, they will probably bring up family back home needing money or something, but I just change the subject when that happens.[/QUOTE]Great report!
Meanwhile, there are Filipinas on massage republic asking for 300 k one shot LOL!
Let's hope this new scene doesn't get destroyed by fellow mongers eager to overspend.
Will definitely be checking this out!
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[QUOTE=Oesede;1967582]I made some "research" in Incheon Yellow House for this woman, but didn't find her. Could you help?
Houses in the be-row (on the left side) are only smaller and have no showers for customers.
.[/QUOTE]She definitely wasn't A-row, too old (mid 30s to early 40s).
The ajummas took me to one of the side houses, so I'm guessing that was be-row. No yellow film on the window on that side. There was a shower, but it was hidden behind a door disguised in the wall.
The room wasn't small, it was very spacious (double bed), and the bathroom was almost as big as the bedroom. I showered every time I've been serviced at the RLD.
If you can't find her, your best bet would be to ask the ajummas in front of be-row.
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Tip
[QUOTE=RainMania;1968292]Great report!
Let's hope this new scene doesn't get destroyed by fellow mongers eager to overspend.
Will definitely be checking this out![/QUOTE]Yeah, I hope it isn't ruined either, but I already thought this was common knowledge about King's Club. UN Club used to be the same way, but I am not sure if it is, as they had a fire a few years back and rebuilt. I was friends with the manager, and he used to toss me "companionship" for a great discount on slower days.
Tip for King's though, you want to go there later, like 11 pm or 12, when they don't think much more clientèle will be coming in. Too early, and they may not want to leave for less than 250 or so.
Without going into too many details about me, I sometimes have to help entertain people in town on business and looking to drink and monger, I've been to King's a lot, and usually not on my own dime. They have a back room their too where you can do stuff with the girl for around 80-100, most say it is 100. But they can be talked down depending on how busy it is.
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Strip club & 3 some
Guys,
Have anyone figured out about strip club (there was post about it here I think) where one girl dances and other one blows you? How it should look, if someone can share specific address, would be great?
Also have anyone had good 3 some experience here? Any suggestions (like escort, Anma)?
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[QUOTE=PegInThePoke;1968400]Yeah, I hope it isn't ruined either, but I already thought this was common knowledge about King's Club. UN Club used to be the same way, but I am not sure if it is, as they had a fire a few years back and rebuilt. I was friends with the manager, and he used to toss me "companionship" for a great discount on slower days.
Tip for King's though, you want to go there later, like 11 pm or 12, when they don't think much more clientle will be coming in. Too early, and they may not want to leave for less than 250 or so.
Without going into too many details about me, I sometimes have to help entertain people in town on business and looking to drink and monger, I've been to King's a lot, and usually not on my own dime. They have a back room their too where you can do stuff with the girl for around 80-100, most say it is 100. But they can be talked down depending on how busy it is.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip.
Do the girls work for the club (bar fine etc)? Or is it more of an unofficial partnership where the club knows what is happening, but is just happy to get the foot traffic?
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Kings
[QUOTE=RainMania;1968749]Thanks for the tip.
Do the girls work for the club (bar fine etc)? Or is it more of an unofficial partnership where the club knows what is happening, but is just happy to get the foot traffic?[/QUOTE]Its like Angeles. They work for the bar and get barfined out. Some will try to get more from you after but just be clear before what you want them for and what the bar fine money is going for. I've heard of some people not make it clear and the shell out more money for sleepover or whatever it is that they didn't make clear.
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Soo-yeon VIP Hill
Thought I'd write a short report on a pretty hot chick who works at VIP near the bottom of the hill. Short hair, cute, really nice body, flat stomach, decent ass, nice size tits, I think enhanced but still feel pretty soft. She's a bit pricey, about 200 for 45 min on a Friday, could be had cheaper on a less busy night I'm sure, or if you're more into haggling (I'm not). BBBJ, fucking in all positions, took the load on her tits. Not overly enthusiastic but pretty good, also DFK. Quite friendly and sweet, not great English. Seems rather newish to the game but could be wrong. I enjoyed myself but YMMV.
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Jinju Spa + Eve
Just catched up on the forum again and read with much interest all the great reports by Ibn Butita. Sounds like an intense trip! I will definitely give Eve a try next week. Any idea if they will be open Sunday? And has anyone had the 3 girl rotation service at a decent hour of the day. Like late afternoon / early evening?
Have been a bit of a regular at Jinju Spa over the last 1 year or so and out of my 6 or 7 visits only really had a an average experience once where the provider insisted that only HJ available + roaming. I complained to her with body language and broken Korean and at the end she gave the BJ as has been standard on all other visits. However the mood was totally destroyed.
The location / procedure has been explained several times here and it still remain one of the best options in my opinion and have had some REAL gem's there. Recall a girl. At least 1. 85 cm with possibly the longest leg seen on any provider. Yuri - as I recall, however having asked for her specifically at later visits was just met by a smile and a headshake from the young male attendants there. Koreana Hotel back in the days had a similar service (HJ only though and by same provider as would give you the 1 hour. Great - massage first). Earlier this year Koreana again opened a massage place, however from my 1 visit there it was unfortunately very clean. Great massage though.
The highlight for me there is still that somewhat awkward moment where you are asked to turn to your back and the 1st provider (very often beautiful also) is starting to give a HJ. She then proceed to call from the phone to advise you are ready for the service. And in walks the young / sexy dressed girl and often you end up gettinga bit of a facemassage by her while the other provider still ensuring the hard-on is maintained. A true Kodak moment.
Highly recommended!
Been visiting Ace Anma on several occassions and never been directed to a [URL]sauna.com[/URL]Mon. Area as others have mentioned here. But always asked to wait in one of the small rooms next to the counter. Usually no more than 10-15 minut wait. However in terms of service I have 2 times had the same girl and while not ugly or bad service she has still only been an 6/10 in terms of look (bit too much plastic done to her face and nothing done to her fairly small / too soft boobs). Will probably give them another try, but have to try Eve first. From recent reports, Fish Anma seem a clear no go for us non-asians.
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Lip cafe details
[QUOTE=Hekkk;1967436]Hello everybody,
Forum seems not very active recently, so trying to fresh it up.
I had some free time on weekends and was thinking between officetel, anma and Lip Cafe. Is there any sickness called "prostitution addiction" ? Because that's what I am experiencing recently.
As I mentioned before, there is site ygm1 which contents everything (officetels, anma, lip cafes, kiss cafes, room salons and others). All in Korean, but with minimum language should be no problem, problem will be to have conversation over the phone.
Purpose: find something that can substitute escort service and basically try something new.
What I had: several hours each day + 300 W in total.
Day 1:
I am not big fan of massage (especially being massaged by a blind man) so decided to go with officetel located around Gangnam area (guess why)...[/QUOTE]Hey there,
Just wanted to find out what website you used to call the lip cafes. My old spot was moved and I can't remember the site I used to find it.
Cheers.
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Lip Cafe Websites
Hello everyone,
I've been searching through the forum now for about 3 hours (haha! - and I've found posts about people going to lip cafes and quick mentions of the sites that they use, but for the life of me I can't find any of the actual websites.
When I do a google search for "lip cafe" I get hits that are unrelated to what I'm looking for.
Anyhow, quick backstory, I used to go to this one place in gangnam (which I referred to as the "delicious house") but it has since been moved. I know that these places move around quite frequently so I wanted to have access to the sites where they post their ads so I can keep up to date.
Posting the website for these services on an open forum like this probably isn't the smartest thing to do for discretionary purposes but I'd be forever grateful for someone to send me a PM with the web addresses that people are using now for lip cafes.
Any help is appreciated.
Cheers,
Slow.
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General Request
When you mongers visit the Itaewon girls, could you take some pics of the clubs and post them? I know they'll cuss you like a sailor if they know about it, but how about posting some discreet pics of the clubs and / or girls if you can get them? Helps a lot for mongers who are new to Korea. Have not visited since 2012.
Does anyone know if Candy (3-holer) is still around?
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Candy
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1970382]
Does anyone know if Candy (3-holer) is still around?[/QUOTE]Candy is over at "Tiffany's" now. It isn't on the hill, but on the street with the Foreign Food Mart.
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Pearl Anma
Had some spare time on weekends and in the end decided to hit anma, because I've never been to high-end anma before, photos of the girls are just bomb and price are quite reasonable (W220 for 1 girl /2 shots and W340 for threesome for 1 hour / unlimited shots).
Called them, they said "just come" (as it happened to me before with LIP cafe).
Located around Gangnam area, behind of one building. Has clear big letter saying "54148; (pearl)" on a big screen with white lighting letters.
Parking guy met me and reported by radio that I have arrived.
Young guy opened a door for me (first floor), I immediately proceeded to the reception.
Found out that threesomes are all random (you can not choose girls), so went with 1 girl /2 shots course.
After taking the shower had "meeting" in waiting room where you pick your girl. All girls I wanted were busy / booked, so went with just nice looking one (faces are blurred so you have to trust your instincts).
I've started thinking that I haven't got what I wanted because I am a foreigner but all guys after me got the same response "you either wait 2-3 hours or go with what is available now".
7-8 people in the waiting room, one by one stuff takes costumers to the elevator (sometimes girls go down to get the customer). And one old lady cruising around waiting room. Offering drinks, food and arranging "meetings".
Finally got upstairs. Girl: face 6/10, body 7/10. On pictures looked much better.
Pretty standard room as I understood from other posts. One room with bed, second one with shower and massage table.
Cat bath, Massage, HJ / BJ, shower.
BJ, sex, shower. Nothing exciting.
Girl was nice though, she was talking in a "cute" manner and was putting efforts in to everything.
I asked her if they are foreign friendly:
1. Foreigner pays higher tax.
2. It depends on a girl, if she wants to go with foreigner or not.
I was charged as a local due to my look and decent Korean (which is not decent actually).
All in all:
I have low interests in Anmas, but honestly girl was pretty similar with one from VIP-MVP, even though one is Korean and other one is Thai.
If I would get the girl I wanted (if she actually exists / works there) I would be more excited.
Probably if ever will want to try Anma again will go to other one.
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[QUOTE=SlowHandJr;1970035]Hello everyone,
I've been searching through the forum now for about 3 hours (haha! - and I've found posts about people going to lip cafes and quick mentions of the sites that they use, but for the life of me I can't find any of the actual websites.
When I do a google search for "lip cafe" I get hits that are unrelated to what I'm looking for.
Anyhow, quick backstory, I used to go to this one place in gangnam (which I referred to as the "delicious house") but it has since been moved. I know that these places move around quite frequently so I wanted to have access to the sites where they post their ads so I can keep up to date.
Posting the website for these services on an open forum like this probably isn't the smartest thing to do for discretionary purposes but I'd be forever grateful for someone to send me a PM with the web addresses that people are using now for lip cafes.
Any help is appreciated.
Cheers,
Slow.[/QUOTE]You've got to do the google search in hangul, plenty of results will show up. The sites that come to mind are abam, bamwar and bamking (bam means night in Korean). You can search for those in English. Google will give you twitter results. The twitter pages have the latest url for the sites.
Sites are all in Korean. You'll need to sign up in order to see numbers etc.
Good luck!
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Kiss Bangs
[QUOTE=SlowHandJr;1970035]Hello everyone,
When I do a google search for "lip cafe" I get hits that are unrelated to what I'm looking for.[/QUOTE]Are you looking for "kiss bangs" where bang is the Korean word for room? I apologize to Jackson if it tread on forbidden territory but "Rockit Reports" have covered this topic extensively. After your adventures in the kiss bangs, we would appreciate it if you report your newly acquired knowledge.
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[QUOTE=Pompetus;1971087]Are you looking for "kiss bangs" where bang is the Korean word for room? I apologize to Jackson if it tread on forbidden territory but "Rockit Reports" have covered this topic extensively. After your adventures in the kiss bangs, we would appreciate it if you report your newly acquired knowledge.[/QUOTE]I don't think that's what he's looking for. Lips cafes and kiss bangs are two different things. Lip cafes are blowjob joints. You typically have to call and book an appointment and then they tell you the location. Kiss Bangs are more or less just what they sound like. You pay for a certain amount of time and get to talk with, kiss, and feel up the girl you get. Sometimes, depending on the girl, you may get more out of the deal.
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Kiss bang in Sillim
So I am back in Korea and enjoyed my last experience at a kissbang so figured I would give it another shot. I checked out a few other locations in Sillim. I followed the directions of another poster to find some new places. His directions called to go out exit 5, walk straight and just before the Paris Bagette, turn right (he said left but it should be right. Just down that block on the right are two different kiss bangs. Pretty easy to see and not too much traffic compared to where I ended up. The previous poster didn't really describe his experience here so instead of taking the gamble, I decided to go bake where I went last time. To get there, go out exit 6 and walk along the main road. The buildings should be on your left. About three or four blocks down on the opposite side of the road, you will see a kiss bang on the top floor of a building (with the big red K). Keep going about another block and this kiss bang will be on the 3rd floor on the left. On your way up you will pass "business clubs" and such.
Went in and paid my 70 kw but was told "no 80". Whatever. Brushed my teeth, went in and waited. A few minutes later, in walks a cute, slender girl dressed in a short dress, FM shoes, and sporting be cups probably padded. Why did I come back and why will I return? The girls here so far have been bare legged instead of those thick, impervious leggings. They have been young, attractive girls that are willing to kiss and let my hands wander. Both girls so far have allowed hands on bare ass. Girl first time allowed petting over the panties that she clearly enjoyed and didn't balk at a finger stroking her pubes just before time ran out. Today the girl positioned herself so there wasn't much room for hand roaming but bodies pressed together and grinding suited me just fine.
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Incheon
Are there any anmas open during the day in the Incheon area? I have a somewhat long layover and I want to pop my head out for a bit and see what's around. Feel free to PM me.
Happy mongering!
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Some funny moments
I went to massage parlor, that's are advertised on web. Handed over 90000 won, undressed took shower. Here comes a very cute girl I was like she is not from Thailand, and not Korean as well. But I did not told her, after the dead and shower again combine, she told me that she is from Laos. I was quite impressed from her politeness. She was very sweat.
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[QUOTE=BennLee;1972424]I went to massage parlor, that's are advertised on web. Handed over 90000 won, undressed took shower. Here comes a very cute girl I was like she is not from Thailand, and not Korean as well. But I did not told her, after the dead and shower again combine, she told me that she is from Laos. I was quite impressed from her politeness. She was very sweat.[/QUOTE]BennLee: please, where?! I am looking for a place just like this. Every Chinese and Thai massage place I have visited has been a disappointment.
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MVP-VIP (Gangnam)
I visited MVP-VIP on this last week one afternoon. I was charged 120 k. After the shower, I pressed the buzzer. The man returned with a young woman. I welcomed her in and we got to know each other. She was Chinese, and told me that all the other girls were Chinese too. Someone in the forum reported having a Thai girl. Not sure if they have any Thais now. We were allowed about 40-45 minutes until the first knock, I guess. Didn't waste any time. Full service, 2 positions. She was nice and kind and enthusiastic. It felt like a GFE. After I finished, we lay there and talked, our bodies intertwined. She gave her name as "Nabi". Said that many American customers come there, and they are usually nice and polite. Told me to come back. Given that Belle costs 90 k for some handplay with maybe a BJ added, 120 k for FS is okay. I didn't feel rushed. I'd go again. Follow the directions previously given in the forum. Come out of exit 5, walk along to the first corner on your right. It is a big building with a VIP barber pole spinning, and multiple entry points to the basement. Front, side and back, I think.
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Nice massage with he given by young non-Korean provider. The Holy Grail?
All I am looking for is a place where I can get a decent massage, and then have my * pulled at the end of it. I don't want a middle-aged Korean lady, altho they are adept at massages. I want a young Chinese, Thai, Laotian, etc lady who is no older than 30.
Is this too much to ask? It seems so. I have tried 6 different locations in the last 6 months, but none of them gave me the satisfaction that I want. Here is another place that fits that bill: [URL]http://dmaps.kr/36vgi[/URL] Good Chinese massage, but no he on offer. Not to me at least.
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Flavor House is gone, unfortunately.
"Flavor House" or "Delicious House" has been gone for a long time, unfortunately.
I went there every week for a long while. It was by far the best lip cafe Korea had for the past few years.
So good I kept it a secret from this public forum. Glad to see someone else found it before it closed, though.
I always went during the day. Did you ever get Sae Yeong?
I actually ran into her on the street once and she initiated a conversation with me so we had a pretty nice improvised date.
Anyway, that place had the best decor, locations, management, and girls by far. But they banned foreigners towards the end before the closed for good. I haven't found anything close since, except Bobos, but they changed to a poor location now with no shower and they've been telling me "no foreigners" the last few times I called. So someone screwed it up for the rest of us.
And that's why I don't post here about my lip cafes: I hit them up right when they open, so they are more likely to take other foreigners, then those guys do something stupid and the managers ban all foreigners.
So I've started getting the email addresses of the girls there and telling them in advance when I want to go so the managers will let me in. Huge pain in the but.
But as I've offered before: if established mongers here want to buy a membership for me, I'll send PMs with info.
But no newbies. It's just too risky.
[QUOTE=SlowHandJr;1970035]Hello everyone,
I've been searching through the forum now for about 3 hours (haha! - and I've found posts about people going to lip cafes and quick mentions of the sites that they use, but for the life of me I can't find any of the actual websites.
When I do a google search for "lip cafe" I get hits that are unrelated to what I'm looking for.
Anyhow, quick backstory, I used to go to this one place in gangnam (which I referred to as the "delicious house") but it has since been moved. I know that these places move around quite frequently so I wanted to have access to the sites where they post their ads so I can keep up to date.
Posting the website for these services on an open forum like this probably isn't the smartest thing to do for discretionary purposes but I'd be forever grateful for someone to send me a PM with the web addresses that people are using now for lip cafes.
Any help is appreciated.
Cheers,
Slow.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ParkerLewis;1973084]"Flavor House" or "Delicious House" has been gone for a long time, unfortunately.
I went there every week for a long while. It was by far the best lip cafe Korea had for the past few years.
So good I kept it a secret from this public forum. Glad to see someone else found it before it closed, though.
I always went during the day. Did you ever get Sae Yeong?
I actually ran into her on the street once and she initiated a conversation with me so we had a pretty nice improvised date.
Anyway, that place had the best decor, locations, management, and girls by far. But they banned foreigners towards the end before the closed for good. I haven't found anything close since, except Bobos, but they changed to a poor location now with no shower and they've been telling me "no foreigners" the last few times I called. So someone screwed it up for the rest of us.
And that's why I don't post here about my lip cafes: I hit them up right when they open, so they are more likely to take other foreigners, then those guys do something stupid and the managers ban all foreigners.
So I've started getting the email addresses of the girls there and telling them in advance when I want to go so the managers will let me in. Huge pain in the but.
But as I've offered before: if established mongers here want to buy a membership for me, I'll send PMs with info.
But no newbies. It's just too risky.[/QUOTE]You frequently went to lip cafes on a weekly basis but want someone else to buy you a membership on here?? Haha what a joke.
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[QUOTE=Hekkk;1970484]Had some spare time on weekends and in the end decided to hit anma, because I've never been to high-end anma before, photos of the girls are just bomb and price are quite reasonable (W220 for 1 girl /2 shots and W340 for threesome for 1 hour / unlimited shots).[/QUOTE]I only paid W270 at Eve just three weeks ago. Have prices gone up that much?
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ISG banned in Korea?
Hello guys,
It's been a while here in Korea but when I try to open the ISG forum page from Google, it's banned and don't let me in! Is ISG start being banned here in Korea? Of course I use other ways to get in but still. Anyway, anyone here can help me out how to find a Lip Cafe? I only speak basic Korean language, but I want to try a Lip Cafe, and an Officetell. So without going back and research info about it can anyone help me out a little bit?. You can PM me or so, and I will return the favor with something else? (Kiss Bang, Massage, AnMa).
Thanks and Merry Christmas to everyone here!
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[QUOTE=VancouverBoy;1977471]Hello guys,
It's been a while here in Korea but when I try to open the ISG forum page from Google, it's banned and don't let me in! Is ISG start being banned here in Korea? Of course I use other ways to get in but still. Anyway, anyone here can help me out how to find a Lip Cafe? I only speak basic Korean language, but I want to try a Lip Cafe, and an Officetell. So without going back and research info about it can anyone help me out a little bit?. You can PM me or so, and I will return the favor with something else? (Kiss Bang, Massage, AnMa).
Thanks and Merry Christmas to everyone here![/QUOTE]Type the URL directly in the browser gets you connected.
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Seoul for the Holidays
So, very unusual for me to be in Asia over the holidays but this year too much back-to-back business in Japan, Korea and China so just decided to stay this year rather than flying back and forth to the east coast. Was bored with all the usual places in Seoul so just walked around Itaewon and saw a new place behind the Hamilton called Cecile. Upstairs going towards Casa Antonio in the back alley. Decided to see what was there. First, a very nice bar. Very classy. And found out my old "desire" Sue was working there. Or maybe she is the new owner, not sure. Anyway, I did not get the vibe it was a Juicy bar but there were two ladies working there who were extremely attractive (one is really tall, looks like a model) as well as Sue (who still has a great rack, those tits still memorize me! And the chick playing the music was also attractive and familiar also but I don't remember from where. . So I stayed a while, had a few drinks, played some pool and had a good time. Not sure if anyone there plays but it was a nice place to hang out in Itaewon for a few hours. After that went back to the Hyatt and hit JJ's for a drink. Ran into a chick I knew from a long time ago (sorry can't give the name, she is not a pro). She was there with 3 friends who were all pretty hot and from what I could gather looking for foreign friends!! . Anyway, we had a few drinks and I guess she was in a nostalgic mood bc the next thing I knew we were tangled up on a king size bed on the 15th floor. Anyway, that's about it.
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Looking for Hongdae kissbangs
Hi all,
Been awhile since I've been in Korea, staying in hongdae. I used to go to a kissbang right down the street from exit 9 next to a Thai massage place but it seems its been closed down. Can anyone else recommend kissbang options near Hongdae?
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Hill finished?
I was walking up the hill last night on the way to somewhere else and it was dead. Two places on the right were boarded up with a big wooden X (before the ITW Hotel). On the right there was one chubby girl who came to say Hello, and then an ajumma came out somewhere up near Polly's Kettle. Apart from that there was nothing else going on. This was about 9 pm last night. Everything between the spa and down to Taco Bell seems to be tranny bars these days.
Is the hill finished?
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Hill
[QUOTE=KMongmong;1981623]I was walking up the hill last night on the way to somewhere else and it was dead. Two places on the right were boarded up with a big wooden X (before the ITW Hotel). On the right there was one chubby girl who came to say Hello, and then an ajumma came out somewhere up near Polly's Kettle. Apart from that there was nothing else going on. This was about 9 pm last night. Everything between the spa and down to Taco Bell seems to be tranny bars these days.
Is the hill finished?[/QUOTE]Wow! What about Happy Days and the other places on the left?
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[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;1953534]So I had / am having an interesting experience and I want to find out if anyone has encountered anything similar. Here's the story:
Over the past few days, I somehow got the KakaoTalk ID of a "girl" who I'm guessing is actually a shop manager or pimp. I can't recall where I got it (either a Korean website or a social app, but I've been digging around a lot recently and just can't recall where this one came from). In Korean, I sent a message to this account just saying Hello,. After some pleasantries, she asked if I wanted to meet. I said yes. She then laid out the following: 150,000 KRW for 3 hours with two shots or 300,000 for 10 hours overnight (didn't ask how many times because I'm not interested in 10 hours). At this point I asked for and received a couple of other photos. I also confirmed that foreigners are accepted. I can read and write Korean a lot better than I speak, so I didn't want it to be a surprise when I showed up and sounded like a doofus.
Then things got interesting. She asked what time I wanted to make an appointment. I told her and she said that in order to make an appointment, I needed to transfer 100,000 KRW to an account as a deposit. The other 50,000 KRW would be payable in cash at the appointment. Bank transfer is the norm here for moving money, so that method isn't weird, but I got a little nervous about my personal details being attached to this payment and told her as much. I said I would prefer to pay it all in cash and she said the deposit is necessary to make the appointment and that she would send me the shop location after receiving the transfer.
Has anyone encountered anything like this before? I'm not so much worried about risking the 100,000 KRW on a scam as I am on it potentially being LE.[/QUOTE]This is bit of an old post, but just to help anyone who may read this, this is just about the most common scam run on call girls in Korea. They are not LE, but once you send them money, you will neither see the girl or the money ever again. NEVER, NEVER send money in advance. This is likely being run by the Korean speaking Chinese in Korea.
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[QUOTE=Lion55;1983846]Wow! What about Happy Days and the other places on the left?[/QUOTE]Sorry, I must've been drunk while posting. Walking up the hill the two places closed up were on the left. Just before the ITW hotel. (walking down as I was, they were on the right). Not sure of the names. There seems to be a bit more action on the road heading up before you take the left onto the hill.
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Happy Days
[QUOTE=Lion55;1983846]Wow! What about Happy Days and the other places on the left?[/QUOTE]Happy Days is still there. Most of the hill is still there. The two places that are boarded up were never that thriving. And yes, Kay is still there. She works mostly on Saturdays and some Sundays now. I haven't been with her in ages, but I do sometimes stop in to say "H", as she is a sweetheart.
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Happy Days
[QUOTE=PegInThePoke;1985784]Happy Days is still there. Most of the hill is still there. The two places that are boarded up were never that thriving. And yes, Kay is still there. She works mostly on Saturdays and some Sundays now. I haven't been with her in ages, but I do sometimes stop in to say "H", as she is a sweetheart.[/QUOTE]Glad to hear that Kay is still around. One of my ATFs.
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Going back to Seoul
The last time I was there was back in 2011. I had fun in the RLD in the 588. Most of the Korean girls wouldn't allow me because I was a foreigner. But a couple of the girls allowed me as I was Asian though. I hear stories of it all depends. The 4 main ones are the 588, Cheonho, Miari Texas, and Itaewon (Hooker Hill) How is the scene these days?
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Kindergarten Teacher Hyeri
Hey man,
Saw your post and I've been looking at the kindergarten teacher as well, saw her photos and she looks like a stunner, so it was a bit disappointed to hear that she was a terrible experience. You said she was a 3/5 but then said she had the ugliest surgery result? Anymore info?
[QUOTE=Hekkk;1966016]Found this website by luck and checked all last 30-40 pages and got many good info.
First one was Na-RI (you can easily find her by name there). Fake photos, but she was pretty cute, but nothing special. 3/5.
Second one was kindergarten teacher Hyeri. Just don't. It felt like a fucking plastic monster jumped out of a box. Ugliest surgery result on my memory. Slim body, couldn't cum.
I don't even want to think where you can meet her, maybe in the zoo.
I am surprised that I am able to operate sexually after that. 1/5.
So all in all, I was really disappointed with all this BP shit going on.
Hek.[/QUOTE]
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Best. Report ever.
[QUOTE=Hekkk;1967436]Hello everybody,
Forum seems not very active recently, so trying to fresh it up.
I had some free time on weekends and was thinking between officetel, anma and Lip Cafe. Is there any sickness called "prostitution addiction" ? Because that's what I am experiencing recently.
Be cautious but do not overreact.
Best regards to all.[/QUOTE]HEKKK. Your report had me laughing all the way through. Keep 'them coming! Fantastic descriptions, great insights, and damn funny! Sorry your experiences in Seoul didn't work out so well. Worse comes to worse. Put out some cash for Sarah Lee, Eunhee Lee, or Tina Yang. All good friends. You won't be disappointed.
JackHole.
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Checked out the hill last night, doesn't appear to have changed much since I was last here in the summer. Only planned on checking things out, but I was rather intoxicated, and struck out with a girl at the bar so the temptation got the best of me. Girl seemed just north of 30, but as I said, I had a lot to drink; overpaid. Anyway, it was busy, and lots of women working, but it was Friday night.
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[QUOTE=ProperKase;1991508]Checked out the hill last night, doesn't appear to have changed much since I was last here in the summer. Only planned on checking things out, but I was rather intoxicated, and struck out with a girl at the bar so the temptation got the best of me. Girl seemed just north of 30, but as I said, I had a lot to drink; overpaid. Anyway, it was busy, and lots of women working, but it was Friday night.[/QUOTE]Sounds like the two bars that were boarded up on the left prior to the ITW hotel are Texas and Debut. Texas was owned by Kelly- short bob haircut, nice tits (fake), nice handful of ass. Debut is a regular bar, small, only about half dozen customers at a time.
Does anyone know if Kelly moved to another bar? She was always one of my ATF.
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[QUOTE=TravelingMoron;1989526]Hey man,
Saw your post and I've been looking at the kindergarten teacher as well, saw her photos and she looks like a stunner, so it was a bit disappointed to hear that she was a terrible experience. You said she was a 3/5 but then said she had the ugliest surgery result? Anymore info?[/QUOTE]Sorry for late reply, not checking this forum regularly.
Well, her problem was that we was over-plastic. Hard to explain, but you know when you see some Korean girls who had "too much" of surgery feeling?
So multiply it by x 100 (I am only half joking).
She had decent body though in my opinion. Slim with tattoos on the back. Sorry, do not really remember boobs size.
Another bad part is that she did not put any effort in to it. Its always turns me down, when it feels like I am forcing girl to do her job.
Also I saw on another forum that guy got another girl (without tattoos) from the same ads, which means its obviously agency and you get what they have.
My advice. Pass her and try something else.
With lack of Korean language. Try other "open" agencies (who are not pretending to be individual girls) & anma.
With Korean language ability. I would try officetel.
BTW I hitted one officetel with Russian Girls about a month ago. Girl was not the same as on the photo, but she was kinda trying.
Still have not found any reasonably good anma, officetel or whatever. So I am thinking of sticking to what I found and it fits me the best.
All these pretty girls on photos and so-so girls in reality is really *ed up. I would prefer to pay extra, but to get what you want.
Also as I see, now prices are increasing for locals (at least what I see from officetel located at Gangnam ads), so we foreigners are getting even with Koreans.
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[QUOTE=TravelingMoron;1989526]Hey man,
Saw your post and I've been looking at the kindergarten teacher as well, saw her photos and she looks like a stunner, so it was a bit disappointed to hear that she was a terrible experience. You said she was a 3/5 but then said she had the ugliest surgery result? Anymore info?[/QUOTE]I re-checked my post and 3/5 was for the first girl.
"Teacher" was the second girl I got right after the first one.
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King Club
Went to King Club last Friday night only to check things out (I haven't been there in ages and is not one of my favorite places anyway! I went with my friend. I got in the smell of weed was all over,. Some DJ's was spinning hip hop, at the pool table 2 Philippines girls were trying to play pool with a foreigner (one was decent looking, the other had a cute face but the body were the size of my closet). The place were entirely empty and it was about 11,30 pm. We went to bar and a hottie give us the menu. I ordered a Jack Daniels (it cost 8,000 won) I handed to har a manon and she not even thank of asking me if I want my change back? So I just let it good, I went there for fun anyway. A second hottie with a red dress was chatting by the bar with a guy (north American looking guy in his 30's, I guess? He was having a beer with her (probably bough her a Bud too). A third one was a stunner. My opinion. She was staying alone and couple of minutes later she light up a cigarette. She dressed up really sexy, I could see a little bit of her boobs trying to come out of that tight dress. As hot as she was her attitude was not friendly at all. I tried to chat with her and she replied: sorry I no English!. Which I don't believe it. Anyway. After my friends and I couldn't take our eyes from her she even had more of that. Irresistible lady attitude. Untouchable type of. I ask her if she want to have a drink. She said No! . the girl chatting with the guy moved to the darker corner of the place on the sofa's area?. Oops! Something's going on here. I thought?. So my question to you guys is: Does anyone know what's going on there nowadays? The girls were like juicy bar girls. Probably if I was alone she would approach me to talk. But can I get something more? Should I buy more drinks or ask her if she offers some extra services? More details please! Happy hunting!
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Soo-ae at Texas
Last Thursday I was walking around and unexpectedly saw Soo-ae at Texas bar (new one, formerly Evergreen), not hill proper but near the bottom around the corner. She said she's been out of the game awhile but was back this night as favor to the new owner. Anyways, still looks great, actually maybe better with the time off, shorter hair, about shoulder length. I decided to go with her for old-time's sake, was great, body is still amazing, if anything I think her tits are bigger. Not sure how much she'll be around, but FYI. Also, regarding Kelly, I saw her around Itaewon a couple weeks back during the day at a coffees shop. But strange to see, think she recognized me but I didn't say anything, she was with some Korean dude. Anyways, not sure if she is still working or not, haven't seen her at any bars lately.
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[QUOTE=VancouverBoy;1994104]Went to King Club last Friday night only to check things out (I haven't been there in ages and is not one of my favorite places anyway! I went with my friend. I got in the smell of weed was all over,. Some DJ's was spinning hip hop, at the pool table 2 Philippines girls were trying to play pool with a foreigner (one was decent looking, the other had a cute face but the body were the size of my closet). The place were entirely empty and it was about 11,30 pm. We went to bar and a hottie give us the menu. I ordered a Jack Daniels (it cost 8,000 won) I handed to har a manon and she not even thank of asking me if I want my change back? So I just let it good, I went there for fun anyway. A second hottie with a red dress was chatting by the bar with a guy (north American looking guy in his 30's, I guess? He was having a beer with her (probably bough her a Bud too). A third one was a stunner. My opinion. She was staying alone and couple of minutes later she light up a cigarette. She dressed up really sexy, I could see a little bit of her boobs trying to come out of that tight dress. As hot as she was her attitude was not friendly at all. I tried to chat with her and she replied: sorry I no English!. Which I don't believe it. Anyway. After my friends and I couldn't take our eyes from her she even had more of that. Irresistible lady attitude. Untouchable type of. I ask her if she want to have a drink. She said No! . the girl chatting with the guy moved to the darker corner of the place on the sofa's area?. Oops! Something's going on here. I thought?. So my question to you guys is: Does anyone know what's going on there nowadays? The girls were like juicy bar girls. Probably if I was alone she would approach me to talk. But can I get something more? Should I buy more drinks or ask her if she offers some extra services? More details please! Happy hunting![/QUOTE]Sorry I can't give any info on this. But is kings club mainly an african american club? Have never been there before.
Are there also a lot of white and filippinas there also??
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Public Service Announcement: Apple. BEWARE
Someone I knew ended up in Apple not long ago. He was drunk, and is a blackout drunk. When he came to, he was in handcuffs in the police station, under arrest for sexual assault. The provider at Apple had made a video of him with his little sailor hanging out and carefully choreographed a scene from which (assuming the venue and circumstances were different) improper sexual contact could be deemed to have occurred, and called the cops. This had all the makings of a simple shake-down, but things went south very quickly. For starters, the police on the expectation of holding him sent a notice home with the relevant details; the wife was not amused. Then, although with the prodding of the police he coughed up a very substantial settlement to the girl, that just resulted in eliminating the threat of a civil suit. The Prosecutor's Office nevertheless pursued criminal charges. Initially, it looked as if that would be pleaded out with a relatively minor charge, fine and jail time suspended, but the line prosecutor was over-ruled and instructed to take the matter to trial. Someone in the prosecutor's office also leaked all the details to several newspapers and broadcasters, all of whom published reports, which were embellished with allegations of things that never happened. Although the press did not publish his name, it also obviously was disclosed, as his employer received calls for comment. They kept mum, but fired him.
I also have received information from an informed and credible source that, the play having worked so well, the same provider even more recently has sprung it on another punter.
You know what to do.
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Vip-mvp
Hi brother,
Can you message me the correct location for VIP-MVP".
I am staying in gangnam right now.
It would be great help.
Regards.
[QUOTE=Hekkk;1967436]Hello everybody,
Forum seems not very active recently, so trying to fresh it up.
I had some free time on weekends and was thinking between officetel, anma and Lip Cafe. Is there any sickness called "prostitution addiction" ? Because that's what I am experiencing recently.
As I mentioned before, there is site ygm1 which contents everything (officetels, anma, lip cafes, kiss cafes, room salons and others). All in Korean, but with minimum language should be no problem, problem will be to have conversation over the phone.
Purpose: find something that can substitute escort service and basically try something new.
What I had: several hours each day + 300 W in total.
Day 1:
I am not big fan of massage (especially being massaged by a blind man) so decided to go with officetel located around Gangnam area (guess why)..[/QUOTE]
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Hi there,
I am staying right now in Gangnam area and would like to know 2-3 good places for massage with happy ending in Gangnam.
Can somebody help and message me the name & phone nos.
Would appreciate.
Regards.
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[QUOTE=GoldenRule;1995732]Hi there,
I am staying right now in Gangnam area and would like to know 2-3 good places for massage with happy ending in Gangnam.
Can somebody help and message me the name & phone nos.
Would appreciate.
Regards.[/QUOTE]RTFF.
Everything you want is less than 10 pages back.
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One day in Seoul
I am in transit to Seoul with 1 night (5 March) and day to explore. I am planning to bar hopping, some dancing, and off course try my luck with a local. Can you suggest baat area to stay (including any hotel name), must visit clubs and any advise on picking a local girl.
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Seoul day 1
Having arrived from Busan, was eager to see what Seoul had to offer.
I do want to try a Kiss Bang (all about the experience). Had read about a place called Kiss Time, Allegedly near Sadang metro station exit 4. Online info states it to be in the building with Dunkin' Donuts outside exit 4. Alas, there is no Dunkin' Donuts. Could not find it.
There is a back alley / side street which seemed to have a few suspicious looking places but time was running away from me as I had other planes.
Eve massage.
Has been talked about here before. I'll update directions because again, other info is a bit lousy. Metro to Hak-dong. Come out exit 3. You can come up the lift, or the escalator. If you come out of the escalator, you have to turn around and walk towards where the elevator exit is. There's is a Petrol station on your right as you walk towards it.
Essentially, walk up the street (uphill). The name (Eve massage in Korean) is high up on the building, but just turn down the first alley on your right. You should the entrance as you turn in.
Was greeted by a chap at the door. Now Eve offer the 3 girl special, which is 15 minutes with one girl. BBBJ and sex, 15 minutes with another in the shower / chair. Includes her washing you, very small amount of AR, BBBJ and brief sex and 30 with the final girl. Sex etc.
The three girls were all reasonable, the first having the tightest body, the last having the nicest tits. The first girl actually allowed 69 but then pushed my hand away from her pussy. There's been varying reports of what you can and can't do so again YMMV. Wasn't able to finish with sex with the 3rd so finished with a HJ.
The service is good, albeit mechanical. But what do you expect if they're going through this over and over.
The cost is an eye watering 270 k won (which is $310 of my lousy Aussie dollars). Alas, a lot of the other places do charge the same amount! Oh well, worth the splurge to see what it's all about.
Hopefully I have time to get around to VIP. MVP. I'd like to give Hooker Hill again just for the seeking speediness of it. If time and budget permits, may give Ace a whirl too.
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Seoul day 2
Spent the day on the DMZ / JSA tour.
Meant be to dropped back around city hall but due congestion from the ongoing protests against the President, decision was made by the bus to drop us at Hongdae. Not to worry, could try and check out one of the other Kiss Bangs.
The info available states this place to be called Kiss Time. Directions. Exit 1 from Hongdae station. Turn right into the first Street then left. Walk until you see a red brick building. It's on the 2nd floor.
The name is now K club or something similar- there is an English sign referring to "dating Korean women".
Went up the stairs and greeted by a rather attractive girl. Told 80 k for one hour, 50 k for half hour. Went for half as I had limited timrt. Directed to brush teeth in the toilet. Once done, directed to the room by a chap and found myself with a girl. Honestly can't remember if it was the reception one! Body quite tight and by far the best looking Korean girl I've been with this far. Extras were 20 k for HJ and 50 k for BBBJ.
Started out with kissing, and was able to pull her dress up to reveal black panties. Alas wasn't able to get my hands near her bits but grabbing asd underneath seemed ok. After a few minites, moved to BJ. She indicated that CIM was ok. So away I went!
Once done, cleaned up with wet wipe and sent on my way. Probably spent only 20 minutes in there. I suspect with paying for extras they want to get you off to get you out of there ASAP.
Might consider returning later if I have the chance.
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Seoul day 3
Decided to try VIP massage today.
The location is easy to find. Gangnam station exit 5. First right then right again.
Rooms aren't terribly big. Paid up 120 k won.
Got a very attractive girl by the name of Tay ee?
Massage was all of about 5 minutes before moving to BBBJ and then sex. Condom did slip midway through. Used one of my own to complete the job. She seems a bit more curious asking where I was saying. Not sure what to make of that. Tried to communicate via Google translate but she was left speaking into my phone. By the time I managed to download the Korean keyboard she motioned she had to go.
I let myself out.
Definitely considering returning and asking for her again. May very well have to wait though.
Hookers Hill.
Managed to make it here. Set up is as described, wander up and down and their doors will open and they will beckon you in. Ended up with Suzy (mamentioned previously) with much the same experience. CBJ followed by pumping and fake moans. Damage was 100 k. Initially she had asked for a drink - 30 k which rapidly dropped to 20 k! Her initial price was also 150 k. Agreed to 100 with no drink.
I had gone into another girls bar further up who was actually better looking. She asked for 200 k!
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[QUOTE=Zeppelin029;1996969]Having arrived from Busan, was eager to see what Seoul had to offer.
I do want to try a Kiss Bang (all about the experience). Had read about a place called Kiss Time, Allegedly near Sadang metro station exit 4. Online info states it to be in the building with Dunkin' Donuts outside exit 4. Alas, there is no Dunkin' Donuts. Could not find it.[/QUOTE]Hey bud,
Figured I'd help ya out. I was actually looking for the same thing at Sadang a couple weeks back. That specific kiss bang / dunking donuts is gone. However, just to the right of where it used to be, there is a Baskin Robbins. Go to the fourth floor of basking Robbins. You're looking for a door with comics / wonder woman on it. Hard to miss. PM me and I can give you the owners' Kakao if you're interested. Or just walk on in. Can also fill you in on many other KBs if that's your thing.
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Seoul day 4 and 5
[QUOTE=ScanTraxx;1999230]Hey bud,
Figured I'd help ya out. I was actually looking for the same thing at Sadang a couple weeks back. That specific kiss bang / dunking donuts is gone. However, just to the right of where it used to be, there is a Baskin Robbins. Go to the fourth floor of basking Robbins. You're looking for a door with comics / wonder woman on it. Hard to miss. PM me and I can give you the owners' Kakao if you're interested. Or just walk on in. Can also fill you in on many other KBs if that's your thing.[/QUOTE]Hey mate,
Thanks for the offer but I've left Korea. Will keep it in mind if I'm back.
As for my updates, returned to see Tay Ee again on day 4. Had to wait maybe 10-25 minutes. She was pleasantly surprised to see me, and actually went straight to making out. Whilst very much appreciated, her kissing involved a bit too much tongue going everywhere.
Excellent BJ and sex again. After I finished, she was sitting on top of me until I fell out. Either the condoms came off as I fell out of it did so whike going at it. Better get tested.
Afterwards, she managed an "I like you". She really is quite a gem. Unfortunately she. Asked for my Kakao which I downloaded but couldn't register for, and Google translate for Korean is hopeless.
We finished with her sitting next to me, head in my shoulders. Then her sadly waving bye to me as I left.
Against my better judgement, I did not go back to see her the next day, instead opting for for "Cool Massage". Info online suggests a 2 pop option for 130 k won.
First of all, location, it's located a fair way down from Gangnam station, on nthe left. Some 10-15 minutes. One is presented with multiple options, massage + happy ending, happy ending then massage then happy ending and something. Else. The 2 pop option is at least 220 k won, not 130 as reported. I elected for one pop at a a still eye-watering 150 k. The set up is one girl will massage you, with a second hotter girl coming in at the end.
Massage was with a chubby Korean, not terrible but not so great. Context was that I was flying out that night to Hanoi and needed to get back to Myeongdong to get my bag, so was worried about the time. Either way, towards the end of her part, she begins to warm you up then calls for the other girl.
Unfortunately, there was an at least 5 min delay before the other girl arrived so junior had gone back to sleep. Alas, the second started jerking on my limp dick without much enthusiasm. Managed to finish but it really was subpar.
Previously, there were reports of the massage + one pop going for only 80 k. At this price it might be worthwhile, but at 150 k it's a joke. Save your down for places like VIP, with no massage but full service at s cheaper price.
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588 is all but gone
Hey all,
It looks like the heady days of cheap and easy sex is gone. Hooker Hill has been in steady decline for years. 588 is all but gone. I counted 5 booths that were active (ie not demolished or slated for demolish.) Even the Lotte Department Store is either being demolished or undergoing a major renovation. The whole area seems to be undergoing a major uplift.
Anyways. Of the three that had girls in when I went, two offered. One was 140,000 won and the other the normal price. The more expensive was what I would call your typical pretty agashi, but I wasn't going to pay that.
Anyways, went the cheap route, got ok sevice, but got what I wanted.
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Best girls are gone
[QUOTE=Phloppy;2001713]Hey all,
It looks like the heady days of cheap and easy sex is gone. Hooker Hill has been in steady decline for years. 588 is all but gone. I counted 5 booths that were active (ie not demolished or slated for demolish.) Even the Lotte Department Store is either being demolished or undergoing a major renovation. The whole area seems to be undergoing a major uplift.
Anyways. Of the three that had girls in when I went, two offered. One was 140,000 won and the other the normal price. The more expensive was what I would call your typical pretty agashi, but I wasn't going to pay that.
Anyways, went the cheap route, got ok sevice, but got what I wanted.[/QUOTE]One of the hottest girls from 588 (Eun-Ji, see post #8948) is also no more there. Her place is still open with an older women as replacement. I thinks she was working already years ago in Yongsan und was there one of the older girls.
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Kay?
[QUOTE=PegInThePoke;1985784]Happy Days is still there. Most of the hill is still there. The two places that are boarded up were never that thriving. And yes, Kay is still there. She works mostly on Saturdays and some Sundays now. I haven't been with her in ages, but I do sometimes stop in to say "H", as she is a sweetheart.[/QUOTE]When did you see her? I've been several times on the hill last month, but saw only Cherry (the big lady) and another girl there.
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[QUOTE=Phloppy;2001713]Hey all,
It looks like the heady days of cheap and easy sex is gone. Hooker Hill has been in steady decline for years. 588 is all but gone. I counted 5 booths that were active (ie not demolished or slated for demolish.) Even the Lotte Department Store is either being demolished or undergoing a major renovation. The whole area seems to be undergoing a major uplift.
Anyways. Of the three that had girls in when I went, two offered. One was 140,000 won and the other the normal price. The more expensive was what I would call your typical pretty agashi, but I wasn't going to pay that.
Anyways, went the cheap route, got ok sevice, but got what I wanted.[/QUOTE]Saw it in the news the other day.
Can't say I'm sad about it, feeling sorry for stuck up working girls is not my thing. No doubt the girls will move online and to other establishments and RLDs, let's hope the recent reality check will soften their stance a bit on serving us dirty foreigners.
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Poor experiences for first timer
So I don't want this to be a gripe post, maybe I'm just a newbie to Korea (a veteran monger from Bangkok). Also I'm white so my experiences here wouldn't be as good as Asians. So I have tried most of the reviewed places and they were all pretty bad.
1. Jinju massage. Massage was good, sexual services were bad. The women were both fat. The massage lady was 50+, or at least well past menopause, and overweight. Nothing at all like a "MILF" in their 30's, as mentioned in other very positive reviews. And her service was nothing sensual as alluded in other reviews. It was just going from stage to stage. There was a regular massage, a sensual fingertip portion, immediately cut off abruptly as she left the room to get towels to bury me in. Then a weird prostate massage and ball juggling phase, followed by her calling in the handjob / blowjob girl. Girl arrives, old masseuse quickly leaves. Girl arriving is overweight too. Not obese, but lots of baby fat and hard tits with the natural part drooping off slightly. She takes her top off, gets the cat bath over with quickly and almost immediately transitions to BBBJ. Not a good BJ. It was fast and rather mechanical. Probably trying to get me off as soon as possible. She position herself at the end of the massage table. So I sit up to grope her tits, as is supposed to be standard service here (based on every review). And she doesn't like this, tells me to lay back down, and proceeds to stop her blowjob and jerks me off with a technique to get me to cum as soon as possible (fast hand pumping and putting as much strokes on the head). Now, the staff were all nice though, and welcoming. All of the staff, including the girls. But my reviews is objective here and taking into account the most important aspects, the sexual service. And it is lacking in both looks and sexual service. There were 3 guys right ahead of me and 1 guy behind me, so 5 guys walked in around the same time. They may have been a bad idea to go at 6 PM on Saturday.
2. VIP-MVP. This girl was quite big (tall, broad shoulders) and fat. Her only saving grace was her age, probably 24. Her lift nipple had a large / unusual mole on it, making her look like she had 2 nipples on her left boob. This is definitely worth mentioning as their girl quality has some land mines in it. She came into the room after I buzzed her in, immediately started and ended a 30 second cat bath and began a BBBJ. This goes on for about 2 minutes, then she pulls a condom out and gestures me to do missionary. I simply couldn't get off, she was nothing to look at. She was very big and about 25 pounds from being obese. Despite changing to other positions, nothing. I probably fucked her for 30-40 minutes and she eventually had enough and motions to her wrist to indicate time is up. She offered HJ but I declined.
3. Cheonho redlight district, 11:30 PM, Sunday Night. So again, I'm white, and also 6 foot, look swedish. I was wearing a hoodie which concealed my race for a few seconds. But once they knew I was white, I was invisible, or "bye bye". They were eagerly opening the door well ahead of me, but later saw I was white and no deal. Only 1 shop out of 15-20 would agree to service me. The girls were not the worst looking, but not the best. Maybe 5/10 compared to other girls in this red light district, for that night. The ajuma ushered me into the back quickly. I asked her if I could pick, I couldn't. She brought a single girl out and indicated that was the girl I would do. This girl didn't seem too happy or eager about when she approached. Just kind of an awkward reaction from her so I decided to bail. At another booth, one girl I liked, I waved to her. She waved back and smiled. So I proceeded to go in, but when the Ajuma saw me entering (she didn't see me waving) I was asked to leave quickly.
In short. The 2 massage places in gangnam both had fatties. I know some might not get the fat ones (and may have great reports about the attractive ones), but the fact that those landmines are sitting there and there is a 1/4, 1/3 or 1/2 chance you're going to hit it, that's pretty bad quality in my book. They have fatties on staff, and not being able to pick the women, that's really bad value. And Cheonho isn't really a viable option if you are not at least Asian.
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Getting a little better, went to Belle
So I went to Belle. I'll start with the positive: this wasn't an absolute loss like the other places (women too fat / ugly). This girl was really just my type actually: thick / athletic all over and is 26. Despite being thick boned, she had a somewhat flatter abby stomach and decent, natural breasts. I saw 2 other girls in the hallway though. One was quite heavy / overweight (so you might get unlucky here as well), but the other was very classic, slim young Korean beauty. Had a V shape face and was young, decent body.
So finally, at least I have something I can feasible work with (the thick boned, 26 year old). Now onto the bad: 40 out of 50 minutes, and the first 35 minutes was a very, very boring massage. She just did the most non-sensual, and plain boring massage. The boredom and uneventfulness of this really was a turn off. Towards the latter half, she kept alternating between my lower legs and lower back after she ran out of places to massage. This went on for awhile. She then finally moved onto about 20 seconds of sensual light touching massage. But sadly her light touch skills are pretty bad. She then gave me a 2-3 minute cat bath, and asked me to turn over. Resumed cat bath, pulled down the top half of her dress to reveal her tits (not down to underwear like other reviews) and moved onto BBBJ. This went on for about 1 minute and she moves onto the handjob. This was pretty good actually, well just initially. The lube that they use is top notch so they are managed well. And her technique started out really good (no mindless and crazy hand pumping that is so common at jack shacks and massage joints). But because she spent so much damn time on a really boring massage, after about 30 seconds of HJ a knock on the door and it's time to go soon. So she starts pumping at the tip to get me to cum and of course, I do within about 30 seconds. Also she focused on nipple sucking and just keeping her head down as much as possible, no GFE or kissing at all. Very sub-standard service in my book.
So despite blowing quite a big load, I still feel like I have blue balls after going there. It must have been just less than 1 minute of decent handjob and that was it. I think that because they know I'm just a tourist, that they're better off doing as little work as possible. I see this attempt to do little to no work in Thailand all the time with the tourists there. But since I live and frequent the joints there, the girls don't give me the tourist trap service / prices. I think I need to lie and tell them that I am going to move to Seoul so that I get better service.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;2003119]Saw it in the news the other day.
Can't say I'm sad about it, feeling sorry for stuck up working girls is not my thing. No doubt the girls will move online and to other establishments and RLDs, let's hope the recent reality check will soften their stance a bit on serving us dirty foreigners.[/QUOTE]Doesn't matter one way or another. Unless you're Asian, Seoul sucks for pay for fun. I will be happy to get the fuck back to someplace like Thailand where cash is king. Seoul and its stuck up working girls can kiss my ass.
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Options in Suwon
Hello. This will be my third visit in the past year. I am staying in Suwon and curious about my options. I have been to the RLD and not too impressed. Are there any agencies that one could recommend. I went the Backpage route a couple of times and the ladies who arrived looked nothing like the photo (big surprise). I don't speak any Korean so probably the massage route would be a "No". Any insights are appreciated as I have RTFF but Suwon info is spotty. Thanks in advance! H1.
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Jinju again
So I decided to visit jinju again, instead of Belle. Despite Belle having a girl I found really attractive, and could speak English well, I just know she didn't click with me, despite her nice attitude. Something about how she provided rushed handjob at the end. Anyway, I felt with Jinju, at least I get a full hour of massage out of it, wheras Belle is barely 30 minutes and the first part wasn't sensual or massage-like at all.
So this time, with Jinju, the first lady wasn't half-bad looking actually. I would do her. Barely in MILF territory but I would totally do her, she was kind of hot. Or maybe was really hot 5 years ago. Anyway, she seemed to be the typical Korean. Friendly but highly xenophobic. She wouldn't touch me without a clothe during the massage. The handjob / ball massage at the end was perfunctory and she calls the Handjob girl in. It wasn't anything like an "adult video" experience where the 2 girls work on you, as mentioned in other reviews. The MILF lady just says bye bye and walks out when the new girl gets there. So anyway, this handjob girl that walks in was way better looking than the handjob girl from last time I reviewed. This one was tall, 25, fair amount of baby fat but very attractive. Also very large be cup preasts. It's a be cup (asian afterall), but they're big, natural and very amazing asian breasts. She was somewhat nice too, her name is Jay. No blowjob, and her handjob quickly become a fast pump. I told her to slow it down and she obliged. But went right back to fast pumping 30 seconds later. Whatever. Still left feeling pretty good because those tits were amazing and Thai girls don't have those kinds of breasts (or that kind of height, without looking unfeminine anyway).
Morale of the story, if you're not Asian, Korea is a bad place to visit just for mongering. Stick to the known areas like Thailand, Macau, Hong Kong, etc.
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Thai massage with he, and so on
Fellow mongers, I am always looking for Thai or Chinese places with he or more.
Today I went to a Thai massage place across from Dongdaemun Design Plaza (here: [URL]http://dmaps.kr/3vhyg[/URL]).
Good massage for 90 minutes, from a lovely Chi-Thai girl with an awesome rack. I had a good view down her cleavage when she was giving me the footwash at the start. She speaks some English. She's been in Korea for 5 years, working at that place for 2. We talked during the massage, I thought we had a good rapport building up. But sadly a 90 min massage was all I got. At no point was there a hint that I could offer a little tip for some hand play. It was just, thanks very much, the massage is finished, would you like some tea. I was so disappointed not to see some more of those big boobies.
Guys, if you like me are looking for a Thai or Chinese massage ++, do not go there. Only worth going if you want a 1. 5 hour massage for 60 k but you go home and tug yourself off.
If you have had a different experience there, I want to know about it.
And can SOMEBODY please point me in the right direction? Over the last year I have tried several Chinese and Thai massage places over Seoul, each time striking out. The only place I got FS was MVP-VIP in Gangnam. But that was without even a hint at a real massage.
HELP!
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This may or not help you
[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2006550]And can SOMEBODY please point me in the right direction? Over the last year I have tried several Chinese and Thai massage places over Seoul, each time striking out. The only place I got FS was MVP-VIP in Gangnam. But that was without even a hint at a real massage.
HELP![/QUOTE]I use the outcall Thai massage services. You call the number and the operator gets your address. About 30 minutes later a Thai woman shows up with a thick floor mattress, sheets and oil. She is accompanied by a Korean male driver who takes your money and leaves. She'll tell you to strip naked and lay down. She is Thai massage trained and the massage is very good. When done she will pack up, call the driver and say goodbye.
Average Rates.
Thai massage 90 min = 70,000.
Thai massage 120 min = 80,000.
Aroma (oil) massage 90 min= 80,000.
Aroma massage 120 min = 100,000.
Special Combo 60 min Thai 60 min aroma = 90,000.
I go for the special combo. When the driver takes the 90 k and leaves, I give 10 k to the girl and ask for a 120 min aroma massage. They usually laugh, pocket the 10,000 and say "OK!
The massage is very professional and quite good. I usually play some music during the session and they really appreciate it. Massaging someone for 2 hours in dead silence can get quite boring.
Towards the end of the session, negotiations may take place. It's complicated so I'll try my best.
Happy endings are not standard. It depends on the girl. If she wants to offer it, she can but she is no way obligated to do so. She can also charge anything she wants. "Additional services" are completely at her discretion. This is the average: HJ = 20,000 BBBJ = 50,000 Sex = 100,000.
Some girls will only offer a HJ some will not have sex while others will have sex but not offer a BJ. If a girl offers sex, she will most likely have her own condoms. It's totally a roll of the dice but the girls that I have talked to say that nearly 100% will do a HJ. I've been using incall Thai massages for over 5 years and about 2/3 of the girls will have sex for the 100,000. YMWV as some of the girls that I've tried are like dead fish while some are very active and even kinky partners.
The biggest risk is that you have absolutely no idea what these girls will look like. In most pay-for-play establishments, you can trust that the girls will have a certain level of attractiveness. With these Thai massage incall services it's not the case as they are selected based on their massage certifications. On the phone, you can ask for a pretty girl but there is never a guarantee. Do not mention any kind of sex or ask about happy endings on the phone. These businesses want to stay well out of the police's gaze and any additional services should remain between you and her.
Good news is that if you enjoy yourself, you can ask for her name. If you choose to, you can request her again. However, the majority of these girls are here on 3 month tourist Visas and are here to make some fast cash and go home. There are a few with working visas but they are rare. About every 90 days, I will get a text message from the business letting me know when they get a fresh wave of girls in.
Also, businesses will send me a text message with discounted specials and what not. I usually rotate between 3 companies. I have their phone numbers but I think posting numbers is not allowed so I advise you to try doing an internet search for "Llama Massage", "Best Thai" and "Top Thai. " I do not think they have web advertisements but you can try. I found out about them because whenever someone uses their service the driver puts a flyer on the doors of all the other apartments in the building. Over the years, I have collected about a dozen. They operate in the Gangnam area and I do not know how far outside of Gangnam they will travel.
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Thai Massages with Happy Endings
I've talked about a place or two in the past in this forum.
I currently go to two Thai places in Gangnam that give a legitimately good massages, and, depending on the girl, have happy endings either oral or hand (mostly oral). Both of them have have a hodge podge of different quality Thai ladies, but a few of the really hot ones do it for an extra 50,000 won. The massages themselves are also pretty cheap (40,000 for an hour of aroma).
I am hesitant to give out the names of these places because I feel I kind of earned knowing about them. Through multiple sessions, I summoned up the courage to flash a 50 k Won note and request for the happy ending. Sometimes I was denied, but sometimes I was rewarded. It is how I figured out who my regular girls would be (got their names), and then just book appointments at either place depending on who is working that day. One of them has even done house calls to my place, which has ended up in FS a few times, cheaper than hooker hill.
My advice to those people who are looking for this sort of thing: if you have the balls to look failure in the face multiple times, you will build a good list of regular masseuses who will do it. The Thai girl who say "no" don't go and complain to the manager or anything, they usually just politely say they don't offer it. However, since it a big part of their homeland culture, they also don't judge you overly much. As far as I can tell.
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[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2006709]I use the outcall Thai massage services. You call the number and the operator gets your address. About 30 minutes later a Thai woman shows up with a thick floor mattress, sheets and oil. She is accompanied by a Korean male driver who takes your money and leaves. She'll tell you to strip naked and lay down. She is Thai massage trained and the massage is very good. When done she will pack up, call the driver and say goodbye.
Average Rates.
Thai massage 90 min = 70,000.
Thai massage 120 min = 80,000.
Aroma (oil) massage 90 min= 80,000.
Aroma massage 120 min = 100,000.
Special Combo 60 min Thai 60 min aroma = 90,000.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the details, shimshimhaeyo. I looked on Google for the names you gave, in English and in Korean, but couldn't turn up any results. Maybe I am doing it wrong. If you are willing to send me some details by I'm, thanks a lot.
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[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2007672]Thanks for the details, shimshimhaeyo. I looked on Google for the names you gave, in English and in Korean, but couldn't turn up any results. Maybe I am doing it wrong. If you are willing to send me some details by I'm, thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]I would gladly give you the phone numbers that I have but I do not have I'm capabilities.
I would post the phone numbers on the forum but I think that is not allowed. If I am able to post the numbers here, I will do so in a flash.
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588 Dead?
Was this at night with only 5 booths operating? I love 588 and was last there Seoul Mar 2016. I might be in Seoul next week. One last time before it's gone!
Cleaning up for the 2018 Pyongchang Olympics?
[QUOTE=Phloppy;2001713]Hey all,
It looks like the heady days of cheap and easy sex is gone. Hooker Hill has been in steady decline for years. 588 is all but gone. I counted 5 booths that were active (ie not demolished or slated for demolish.) Even the Lotte Department Store is either being demolished or undergoing a major renovation. The whole area seems to be undergoing a major uplift.
Anyways. Of the three that had girls in when I went, two offered. One was 140,000 won and the other the normal price. The more expensive was what I would call your typical pretty agashi, but I wasn't going to pay that.
Anyways, went the cheap route, got ok sevice, but got what I wanted.[/QUOTE]
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588 demolished! What about Yeongdeungpo and Cheongho?
OMG it's true. Here is video and an article about it.
[URL]http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2017/02/251_224601.html[/URL]
And a video of the demolition. It's gone!
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC4F1VBowdE[/URL]
Is Yeungdengpo still alive? I have a flight there next weekend, but if both Yeongdeungpo and Cheongho are dead, I'm canceling.
I've been two 588 2 X in the recent years and loved it.
[QUOTE=Phloppy;2001713]Hey all,
It looks like the heady days of cheap and easy sex is gone. Hooker Hill has been in steady decline for years. 588 is all but gone. I counted 5 booths that were active (ie not demolished or slated for demolish.) Even the Lotte Department Store is either being demolished or undergoing a major renovation. The whole area seems to be undergoing a major uplift.
Anyways. Of the three that had girls in when I went, two offered. One was 140,000 won and the other the normal price. The more expensive was what I would call your typical pretty agashi, but I wasn't going to pay that.
Anyways, went the cheap route, got ok sevice, but got what I wanted.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ImTedKoppel;2008281]OMG it's true. Here is video and an article about it.
[URL]http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2017/02/251_224601.html[/URL]
And a video of the demolition. It's gone!
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC4F1VBowdE[/URL]
Is Yeungdengpo still alive? I have a flight there next weekend, but if both Yeongdeungpo and Cheongho are dead, I'm canceling.
I've been two 588 2 X in the recent years and loved it.[/QUOTE]Cheongho isn't dead, but it's very much not foreigner friendly. Only 1 shop would let me in and only 1 girl was barely interested in servicing me. I wouldn't book a flight just to visit the place.
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Being Asian (not Korean though), I've never been refused at 588 so I would expect about the same at Cheonho. Once at 588 I was asked where I was from but only after I asked the girl as she didn't seem Korean to me.
I've never been to Cheonho as I usually stay in Myeongdong, thus making the journey far, but this time I will stay South of river since 588 is no more. I have a ticket bought already if I cancel I'll just lose the change fee which doesn't bother me much.
[QUOTE=ParkVille;2008524]Cheongho isn't dead, but it's very much not foreigner friendly. Only 1 shop would let me in and only 1 girl was barely interested in servicing me. I wouldn't book a flight just to visit the place.[/QUOTE]
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Yongsan RLD
[QUOTE=Seoulmate;5434]I have not seen many reviews or even mention
of the Yonsan Red LIght district on this forum. [/QUOTE]It's because Yongsan RLD has been demolished to make way for high rise apartments.
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Mvp-vip
[QUOTE=JookMeUp;2006550]And can SOMEBODY please point me in the right direction? Over the last year I have tried several Chinese and Thai massage places over Seoul, each time striking out. The only place I got FS was MVP-VIP in Gangnam. But that was without even a hint at a real massage.
HELP![/QUOTE]JMU,
You're right about that, I went to MVP-VIP yesterday early evening and it was about a 5 minute (maybe less) massage; however, that's just what I like. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind a good massage when that's all I want, but when it's just something to do until we get to a HJ, BJ or more, then I find them boring. It's like eating dinner and I'm just thinking about dessert the whole time. LOL. Anyway, this was my first time there and was greeted with a smile from the guy at the front counter, which nice to see, because as foreigner, that's not always the case (I'm a WM). Led to a room with a shower and was told to take a shower and hit buzzer when ready. When I finished the shower, I hit the buzzer and within a couple of minutes in she comes (another plus, hate waiting). She as tall and immediately striped down and took a shower. She had a beautiful rack (may be+ see- but I'm not good at cup sizes). She had a tattoo that nearly covered her entire back (she was Chinese). Her English was not to good and her Korean came with a strong accent. I speak just enough Korean to get by. She did a little massage while she was totally nude and I could feel her Bush rubbing on my legs and back from time to time (very hot). She was attractive with a nice body and attitude. Flipped over and she start play with me a talking about the size (don't think I'm big, but I had the same problem a few times in Manila last week). She does a good BBBJ for a few minutes and put the cover on, she tries to get on top, but she was tight, she added more lube and I could only get it in about half way. She was a real trooper, she was not complaining and she kept trying she seemed a little embarrassed and giggled a little. I told her to stop and said a BBBJ would be fine, she apologized and tried to get on top again, I think she was worried that I would complain to the boss. None the less, she did finish me off with a nice BBBJ and with a fare of attention to the sack. I hit the shower again, dressed and was on my way. I will go back soon because you never now how long these places will be open. I was a little reluctant to post about it because someone here might ruin it for the rest of us.
Price 120 K.
Looks: 8.
Attitude: 10.
Service: That's a hard one, she did her best I'll give her a 7 (her good attitude bumped this score up a point or two).
Please don't go to these places and make an ass out of yourself so they will continue to service foreigners.
Later,
LM.
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I am planning my first trip to Seoul for around September and to enjoy what the place has to offer. However, like I said it will be my first trip to Seoul and the only knowledge I have is reading this forum. However I am having a few questions and looking for an answer.
So far I know there is 'anma', which seems interesting. Which area would be the best if I want to visit 'anma' that is foreigner friendly with pretty Korean girls?
What I have come to understand is that the 4 RLD in Seoul is completely demolished by the time I arrive. Is this true?
Officetel is challenging without Korean language ability, do they speak a little bit of English or nothing at all?
I have also seen advertisement for Korean boutique Bar (E. G. Petit Seoul), 2 hours including pick-up service and such. Anyone has experience and is it worth the price?
Thanks in advance for answering my questions (and hopefully giving me good ideas where to go and what to do).
Rookie.
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[QUOTE=Rookie88;2009562]What I have come to understand is that the 4 RLD in Seoul is completely demolished by the time I arrive. Is this true?[/QUOTE]I believe Miari and Cheonho are still around. I myself will be in Seoul this summer, so I plan to visit both places again. I don't know the status of Yeongdeungpo (but I've never been there anyways).
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Thai massages
[QUOTE=PegInThePoke;2007245]I've talked about a place or two in the past in this forum.
I currently go to two Thai places in Gangnam that give a legitimately good massages, and, depending on the girl, have happy endings either oral or hand (mostly oral). Both of them have have a hodge podge of different quality Thai ladies, but a few of the really hot ones do it for an extra 50,000 won. The massages themselves are also pretty cheap (40,000 for an hour of aroma).
I am hesitant to give out the names of these places because I feel I kind of earned knowing about them. Through multiple sessions, I summoned up the courage to flash a 50 k Won note and request for the happy ending. Sometimes I was denied, but sometimes I was rewarded. It is how I figured out who my regular girls would be (got their names), and then just book appointments at either place depending on who is working that day. One of them has even done house calls to my place, which has ended up in FS a few times, cheaper than hooker hill.
My advice to those people who are looking for this sort of thing: if you have the balls to look failure in the face multiple times, you will build a good list of regular masseuses who will do it. The Thai girl who say "no" don't go and complain to the manager or anything, they usually just politely say they don't offer it. However, since it a big part of their homeland culture, they also don't judge you overly much. As far as I can tell.[/QUOTE]I agree with the advice, don't be afraid to be rejected. If you do get rejected try another girl next time. Since being here in Korea for almost 2 years now I've ventured out and found some regular places I would have never thought I get FS. I went to one few times in the Mapo area and one of the masseuse was going to do me for free after few visits of getting good BJ's. I've found 3 places that I have gotten FS at on a regular. Most of the spots I got to they actually give a legit massage and when there's about 15-20 mins left that's when I arrange with my regular that I'm ready for the FS.
I have found theses places by just straight asking for it. Most of the masseuse I've had at theses Thai places have been good 8's. Prices are 90,000 for 90 mins xtra services run from 30 k HJ and 50 k BJ and FS around 70-100 k FS. Most of these places are right out in the open. That's where I have found the best ones not in some back alley spot. Most girls do rotate out every 3 months which blows when you find one you like and know what you're going to get.
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Active areas
[QUOTE=Rookie88;2009562]So far I know there is 'anma', which seems interesting. Which area would be the best if I want to visit 'anma' that is foreigner friendly with pretty Korean girls?
What I have come to understand is that the 4 RLD in Seoul is completely demolished by the time I arrive. Is this true?
Rookie.[/QUOTE]Anma. Well that is fine if you want to pay premium price for largely mechanical service. For me, it is not a comfortable environment.
As for the RLDs. Miari is still alive and well. Probably the best place, and has been for a long time. Wide selection, and depending on what you want, lots of variety. It does help to speak Korean, but it isn't necessary. Will run you less than an Anma, and most of them give good service.
And of course, Hooker Hill in Itaewon is alive and well. It is a dirtier environment, as there are less locations and typically service more people on average. But still, their English ability is top notch, and they are well adept at servicing foreigners.
I've never been a fan of Cheonho, but to each their own. It is still running.
Other services. Officetels, Kiss Bangs, so forth. Unless you speak Korean, you may end up wasting a lot of time for no pay off.
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[QUOTE=PegInThePoke;2010244]Anma. Well that is fine if you want to pay premium price for largely mechanical service. For me, it is not a comfortable environment.
As for the RLDs. Miari is still alive and well. Probably the best place, and has been for a long time. Wide selection, and depending on what you want, lots of variety. It does help to speak Korean, but it isn't necessary. Will run you less than an Anma, and most of them give good service.
And of course, Hooker Hill in Itaewon is alive and well. It is a dirtier environment, as there are less locations and typically service more people on average. But still, their English ability is top notch, and they are well adept at servicing foreigners.
I've never been a fan of Cheonho, but to each their own. It is still running.
Other services. Officetels, Kiss Bangs, so forth. Unless you speak Korean, you may end up wasting a lot of time for no pay off.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=YeongIl;2010219]I believe Miari and Cheonho are still around. I myself will be in Seoul this summer, so I plan to visit both places again. I don't know the status of Yeongdeungpo (but I've never been there anyways).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback.
Rookie.
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Yeongdeungpo RLD
[QUOTE=YeongIl;2010219]I believe Miari and Cheonho are still around. I myself will be in Seoul this summer, so I plan to visit both places again. I don't know the status of Yeongdeungpo (but I've never been there anyways).[/QUOTE]YDP RLD has dwindled to almost nothing. I would not make a special trip out to that area as when I was there about a month ago, about 3/4 of the shops were not in operation and I went on a Friday at 11 pm-ish. However, the RLD is right next to the Times Square Mall. If you're there for a movie or something it's worth taking a look.
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[QUOTE=Rookie88;2009562]I am planning my first trip to Seoul for around September and to enjoy what the place has to offer. However, like I said it will be my first trip to Seoul and the only knowledge I have is reading this forum. However I am having a few questions and looking for an answer.
So far I know there is 'anma', which seems interesting. Which area would be the best if I want to visit 'anma' that is foreigner friendly with pretty Korean girls?
Officetel is challenging without Korean language ability, do they speak a little bit of English or nothing at all?
I have also seen advertisement for Korean boutique Bar (E. G. Petit Seoul), 2 hours including pick-up service and such. Anyone has experience and is it worth the price?
Rookie.[/QUOTE]Anmas are a roll of the dice. Sometimes you'll score and sometimes you'll get the most robotic, color-by-number routine.
I think something to consider is how much you are open to exploring. If you like to be on the easy, safe side, your best option is a well established anmas such as Eve, Ace or Fish. They're well lit, clean and honest. However, you will pay for it. You can't expect the best service but you can at least count on getting service. Plan to spend around 250,000 for one hour.
Another good place (already recommended) is Texas Miari RLD. You will find service here.
However, if you're a bit more of an adventurer, a place to try your luck as a foreigner is the Seolleung Station area (Green Line #2). Seolleung is gangnam's finance district and foreigners are a very common sight. There is no RLD per say but the streets behind exits 5 and 1 are a good place to check out. There are many small anmas that you can walk into and on weeknights (after 10 pm). These places can be harder to spot and often operate on one or two floors of a building. Be mindful, however, that many of their signs will not advertise that they are an Anma. Many will just have their name, such as "Apple" or "Eye. " If it's a simple sign with just a one-word name, chances are, it's an anma.
There are also guys on the street (called "Pickings") who may approach you and ask if you're looking for a girl. Competition is high in this area so the chances that one establishment will take a foreigner is decent if you just take the time to shop around. If you strike out, no problem, Fish Anma is just one block north and Hera Anma is one block west ($5 taxi ride).
Another area to check out is the Nambu Bus Terminal (Orange Line #3) area. The streets behind exits 9 and 10 will have a lot of bars, singing rooms and of course, anmas. My best advice is to look for an anma that has one of those portable, inflatable sidewalk signs outside with Japanese writing. This is a clear indication that they are not a "Korean only" establishment.
Although some may disagree, I always advise friends who visit to wear a suit while punting in Korea (not in Itaewon of course). It can make a huge difference if you're trying for a place that normally services Koreans.
Officetels without the ability to speak Korea is really tough. Most will just hang up on you.
As far as those boutique places with the BMW pick up (known as room salons), I liked them. However, I went with groups of Koreans. There are a lot in the Sinsa / Apgujeong Station area. But, if you're going solo, I would humbly advise that you pass. Imagine paying to get into a VIP room at a night club, but you're alone with a girl that you just met, who may or may not speak English. Yeah, it's much more entertaining to be with friends.
I used to be very active giving advice but honestly, Seoul is not what it used to be 17 years ago. The service has really gone down and the prices have skyrocketed. I hate to repeat the bad news, but YMMV really, and I mean really matters in Seoul. Nothing is close to a sure bet here.
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[QUOTE=ScanTraxx;1999230]PM me and I can give you the owners' Kakao if you're interested. Or just walk on in. Can also fill you in on many other KBs if that's your thing.[/QUOTE]Hi,
I can't send PMs but I'm interested in the locations of Kiss Bangs. Can you give me them?
Thanks!
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Long Day, Great Blowjob
Had a very long day today. Wound up having to work from about 6 am to 10 pm. At the tail end, I was doing some work errands close to hooker hill.
Figured I'd walk the hill to see what's new and such.
Even more Transgendered bars have popped up in the last little while (at least 2).
Ambrosia has a new "girl". She is probably early 30's, big tits. I went in, but decline as I've never enjoyed fucking with a sheet between us and the mamasan who lounges and eats squid.
Got to the bottom, and then figured I'd stroll past the bars on the foreign food mart strip.
Some new faces, but I know they are pricier and more robotic than the vets on the hill. Learned that years ago, so I abstained.
Got to Tiffany bar, where Candy (3 holer) has been stationed for a while. I've avoided her for 2 or so years. Just cause I know how much service she gives / gets.
But I figured, "fuck it", long day. I could use a blowjob from a tried and tested pro.
Went in, worked out the price (she talks a big price, but you just got to eye her in the face if you have been with her before, and let her know you know the real price).
Cash paid, she cleaned me off and sucked me like she was a Ziploc vacuum seal. Nothing but wonderful, oral suction. I had had a few drinks with some co-workers, and was exhausted, so I wasn't all that confident at first that I'd be able to be full mast. Those worries went out the window within seconds of her gripping my cock with her mouth.
As the title suggests. I just laid back and enjoyed every moment of it. Easily a good 10 minutes until I let myself blow, and she never came up for air, nor gave me a a look of inconvenience.
Candy. Quality gal still, after all these years.
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Back in Seoul
Alright guys, I'm in Seoul until the 2nd of April so just putting an invitation out there for anyone who will be interested in joining me for a night of co-mongering.
Depending on whos joining, might visit some officetels or other establishments that are for locals only (places you will never find unless you are korean). Easier if said company are gyopos.
Last time we had a good dinner, some drinks and off to monger; straightforward and easy.
PM if interested.
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Lip cafes?
Hey,
I RTFF cause I'm visiting soon, but hoped you guys had recommended lip cafes in Seoul, esp in Gangnam?
Thanks for any tips.
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Gangnam Lip Cafe
[QUOTE=Jolem;2013873]Hey,
I RTFF cause I'm visiting soon, but hoped you guys had recommended lip cafes in Seoul, esp in Gangnam?
Thanks for any tips.[/QUOTE]I haven't been there yet. But there appears to be a brand new one in Gangnam. And I mean brand new. I have been inside but I saw it opening last week.
Gangnam stn. Out exit 9. Walk straight until first alley (not the street immediately right of the exit but first actual alley). Keep walking until the alley ends (you will have crossed 2 streets). The street ends at a run down hotel.
Look up at the building across from the hotel and you will see a business that has the word "Lip" in it.
Good luck. No idea if foreigner friendly.
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Seoul Hunting
Well, been here in Seoul for some time now and figured I put in some reviews of my own.
My recent encounter was a girl from BP. I have had some experiences on BP both good and bad I guess. As everyone probably knows most of the girls on there are not using their own pictures. Her name is Yu-Jin if you do a search you can find here as HotKimYuJin.
As I always do, I like to meet the girls in front of the motel, from my first look, it was kinda dark but she looked legit, she was pretty in the face and her figured looked from what I can tell pretty damn good. We got upstairs into the light of the room and yea she was definitely not the girl. Besides not being the girl in the picture she was pretty good looking and had a great attitude. Had a decent body, showered and got down to business. She has a pretty fat booty for a korean girl, she isn't your typical skinny korean girl (those girls are not my type and what I look for). All in all it was a pretty good service.
Had some good times a pretty much all the Anmas here that have been mentioned on the forum. I think the best Anma I have been to was Fish Anma as they had a fluffer right after you get off the elevator that gives a quick BJ and a ride on the bench chair there wearing a mask.
Had a couple encounters with some girls on massage republic, one girl was the actual girl from the picture on the ad and she is no longer on there now, but she was a girl from Germany I think and is a student here. She was very enthusiastic at the hotel, she talked about having sex without condoms a lot, I think she used to do that with some Korean men. But I was not down for that. Any ways service with here was fantastic. (she's no longer on there now).
She told me about a latina friend she had and showed me her profile but it was not the girl in the photo but she was still decent looking and provided great service she actually let me pull off the condom and opened up her pussy so I can dump my load into it, which was pretty cool.
I posted and earlier review on the thai massage places, I am more of a Thai massage guy now. Been finding some thai places that provide FS found 3 places that offer FS, the price of FS for two are 100 k plus the price of the massage. Certain girls partake and some don't and just offer the HJ and BJ services. The good thing about these places is they actually offer a good legit massage. If you're wondering what to say to get these services, just come out and ask for the services, the worst they can do is say no and smile.
I still monger on BP a bit as well just to see what is out there and maybe take some risk with BP again. I looking for that gem that I can rely on and get on a regular basis as a for sure thing if all fails, hahaha.
Well that's my contribution to the forum boys. Hope it was informal if you guys want info on the massage spots PM me and I can try to point you in the right direction.
Also does anyone have some good sites to officetels please PM if you want to share. That's the only thing I haven't tried and would like to try.
Thanks all for the great information on this forum.
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Well Done
[QUOTE=HvyHitter81;2014440]Well, been here in Seoul for some time now and figured I put in some reviews of my own.
Thanks all for the great information on this forum.[/QUOTE]HH81,
Good report.
Thanks,
LM.
Forum lurkers, take note, that's how it's done!
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Candy at Tiffany's
How much should Candy cost roughly for all three holes? I'm really interested in finding someone who'll do anal.
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Laura at the hill
Is Laura still active at the hill these days? I'm planning to go to Seoul soon and would love to see her again. Anyone can give recent update from the hill? Who is new and who is gone? Thanks!
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Fish Anma
[QUOTE=HvyHitter81;2014440]Well, been here in Seoul for some time now and figured I put in some reviews of my own.
My recent encounter was a girl from BP. I have had some experiences on BP both good and bad I guess. As everyone probably knows most of the girls on there are not using their own pictures. Her name is Yu-Jin if you do a search you can find here as HotKimYuJin.
As I always do, I like to meet the girls in front of the motel, from my first look, it was kinda dark but she looked legit, she was pretty in the face and her figured looked from what I can tell pretty damn good. We got upstairs into the light of the room and yea she was definitely not the girl. Besides not being the girl in the picture she was pretty good looking and had a great attitude. Had a decent body, showered and got down to business. She has a pretty fat booty for a korean girl, she isn't your typical skinny korean girl (those girls are not my type and what I look for). All in all it was a pretty good service.
Had some good times a pretty much all the Anmas here that have been mentioned on the forum. I think the best Anma I have been to was Fish Anma as they had a fluffer right after you get off the elevator that gives a quick BJ and a ride on the bench chair there wearing a mask..[/QUOTE]Great write up! I'm in Korea for a while, about 2 1/2 hours from Seoul. How do I get to Fish Anma?
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Eve Anma. Closed
Gents,
I had an overnight layover in Seoul last week. Using the info from the forum, I decided to try Eve Anma for a bit of fun. The directions that were given on here were very accurate, but when I arrived, I found that it has closed. I spoke to a lady that told me they have moved, and the new name is 'Start'.
She also gave me this info:
Start.
Next to Seocho-dong Yuyuan Hotel.
010-2XXXX861.
I was given a ride to the new / alternate location and did sample the 3 course-hour session. Price is the same at 270 W. It was my first anma experience, and would say it lived up to expectations. As a foreigner, I had no issues there, other than only one person knew a bit of English.
Remember: Put some life into living.
Calibre.
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[QUOTE=Calibre;2017704]Next to Seocho-dong Yuyuan Hotel.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. But could you post a Google Maps or Naver Maps link to its new location?
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Phillippines travel and mongering info
Howdy,
Hey guys, I want to go to the Philippines between May 1-10th. I never been there and I don't have any ideas where to go? I don't have big expectations, I just need a decent accommodation and to get laid. I don't know where should I go?. Who should I ask? Any of you guys here have experience with places there? I have a friend from US (he went back to the States) and told me that he went to some kinda shithole with a big nice pool and there were bars where girls were dancing on the bar. He payed bar fine (40,000 in Korean won) and choose a girl with a number which was dancing on the bar and after finishing her working schedule (around 11 pm) join him in the Hotel for the night. There were.
Also freelancers. But I'm not in touch with him anymore to get more info! I know Cebu is nice but expensive (because of the Koreans). But what other places will you recommend? Easy to get there without transferring to many boats or exchanges many flights?. Will you also recommend some Travel Agency to help me out with this?. Book a flight and rent a room in a Hotel?. You can inbox me for more info or write me public msg! Any info on this will be greatly appreciate it!
Thanks in advance.
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Been searching the internet but do not find the Yuyuan Hotel anywhere?
Visited Eve Anma not long ago and thought the place could do with a bit of a revamp. Especially the strange basement corridor / entrance was rather uncharming / smelly.
Can you give a bit better directions please!
[QUOTE=Calibre;2017704]Gents,
I had an overnight layover in Seoul last week. Using the info from the forum, I decided to try Eve Anma for a bit of fun. The directions that were given on here were very accurate, but when I arrived, I found that it has closed. I spoke to a lady that told me they have moved, and the new name is 'Start'.
She also gave me this info:
Start.
Next to Seocho-dong Yuyuan Hotel.
010-2XXXX861.
I was given a ride to the new / alternate location and did sample the 3 course-hour session. Price is the same at 270 W. It was my first anma experience, and would say it lived up to expectations. As a foreigner, I had no issues there, other than only one person knew a bit of English.
Remember: Put some life into living.
Calibre.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=VancouverBoy;2017920]Howdy,
Hey guys, I want to go to the Philippines between May 1-10th. I never been there and I don't have any ideas where to go? I don't have big expectations, I just need a decent accommodation and to get laid. I don't know where should I go?. Who should I ask? Any of you guys here have experience with places there? I have a friend from US (he went back to the States) and told me that he went to some kinda shithole with a big nice pool and there were bars where girls were dancing on the bar. He payed bar fine (40,000 in Korean won) and choose a girl with a number which was dancing on the bar and after finishing her working schedule (around 11 pm) join him in the Hotel for the night. There were.
Also freelancers. But I'm not in touch with him anymore to get more info! I know Cebu is nice but expensive (because of the Koreans). But what other places will you recommend? Easy to get there without transferring to many boats or exchanges many flights?. Will you also recommend some Travel Agency to help me out with this?. Book a flight and rent a room in a Hotel?. You can inbox me for more info or write me public msg! Any info on this will be greatly appreciate it!
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Howdy. VB,
Based on your post, for a first time visitor, would suggest flying from Seoul to Manila and staying a few days in Makati (half hour to an hour, depending on traffic, taxi ride from Manila airport). Make sure the taxi meter is turned on when you start.
After a few days, proceed onward to Angeles (about 2 hours away by taxi or car, flat rate around 3,000 pesos or a bit less) for a few days. You can then see which place you like better and allocate your remaining time accordingly.
Or, you could fly directly from Seoul to Clark (Air Asiana) and start in Angeles, which is the area immediately adjacent to Clark.
Hotels and girls are plentiful and easily available in both these areas. Manila / Makati is the "big city" area. Angeles is the small town with lots of girls. It's really not complicated.
Currency exchange rate now is around 50 pesos per US $.
For additional background and information, check out the ISG Philippines boards. There is a wealth of helpful information from numerous experienced posters there.
Good luck!
OM.
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Eve Anma new place
[QUOTE=JKorea;2018239]Been searching the internet but do not find the Yuyuan Hotel anywhere?
Visited Eve Anma not long ago and thought the place could do with a bit of a revamp. Especially the strange basement corridor / entrance was rather uncharming / smelly.
Can you give a bit better directions please![/QUOTE]I think near Nambu Bus Terminal. Location 37.485191, 127.013770. Will try to see and confirm back this evening.
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[QUOTE=PegInThePoke;2014020]I haven't been there yet. But there appears to be a brand new one in Gangnam. And I mean brand new. I have been inside but I saw it opening last week.
Gangnam stn. Out exit 9. Walk straight until first alley (not the street immediately right of the exit but first actual alley). Keep walking until the alley ends (you will have crossed 2 streets). The street ends at a run down hotel.
Look up at the building across from the hotel and you will see a business that has the word "Lip" in it.
Good luck. No idea if foreigner friendly.[/QUOTE]Staying in the area and looked it up, its called Lip Cok which is a funny name LOL. But its a regular cocktail bar. If you look through instagram, people have regular birthday parties there and such. I could be wrong though, I was only able to check out the location during the day. Directions are spot on though. Any other lip cafes around gangnam? Also, what time do they generally open?
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[QUOTE=JayWalk0104;2018537]I think near Nambu Bus Terminal. Location 37.485191, 127.013770. Will try to see and confirm back this evening.[/QUOTE]Jaywalk0104,
Thanks your directions. Can see from google maps that it is the spot for an ANMA at least, so probably you are right. Shall report after visiting.
Thanks again!
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Officetel
My regular massage joint has wised up a few months ago and raised their prices up to the regular market price. Although it is not a huge loss for me since my regular SP who gave me god-like service had since left the business.
I came back from a visit to an officetel a couple hours ago and will write a report while it is still fresh in my mind. I have never been to one before and was very curious about the service. I am a foreign born Korean and my Korean is passable so it was easy to set up an appointment and follow directions. I did not want to travel very far from my home this time, so I checked out the places nearby the nearest college area. I found a business online, gave them a call, asked for the girl, and got there on at the appointed time (7:50 pm). They wanted me to call them at the train station for detailed instructions to the officetel, but after some pestering they gave it to me on the phone.
I arrive at the officetel and think immediately that I am in the wrong building because it looked like the priciest apartment in the neighborhood. But it's the right one because the gate password is right. I ride the elevator up and when I get off the floor I am greeted by a man in his late twenties? I thought he might have been a patron. He takes me to another floor and guides me to the room before asking me for the pay. It was really expensive (130,000 won / HR + 40,000 "gift" much more than what I am accustomed to but I consider it as a treat to myself and pay the man. He tells me the room number and gets back on the elevator.
I ring the bell and she answers the door in her underwear! So after reading reviews online I know everything to expect. Her face was so bright and baby faced she must have been a freshman in college! Short, petite, bleached hair, slightly tan (by Korean standards), and a nice butt. I really like what I'm seeing. What also struck me was actually the lighting in the room. It wasn't fluorescent like most one rooms, it was a nice warm track lighting that lighted the room. It felt like we were at a nice hotel on vacation. She helps me take off my shoes awkwardly and grabs my hand and leads me to the bed. We do some small talk and I take my quick shower alone, and as soon as she sees me walk out she strips off her underwear and lures me into the bed. I spent a lot of money and only have an hour so I planned to make the most of it, and she takes everything like a champ. Every request, every change of position is met with a smile and enthusiasm. (I guess that's what you pay for.) I could tell she had a lot of experience and we complemented each other well, so we both had a good time. I finish before time is up but we still lay in bed and relax talking some shit while I suck on her tits and she plays with my cock. I end up getting dressed while she lays in bed naked in the fluffy white comforter just before the 5 minute warning call comes. Then she greets me goodbye without getting dressed.
All in all, I had such a great experience with my first officetel experience. But at that cost I'm not dying to go back again. At the same price I could get pussy from a massage joint, and a special BJ from two girls at the same time at another joint. I'm glad to have tried it once though.
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Got any more BP reviews? Couldn't find her BP post but saw the other BP ads from other reviews. TIA.
[QUOTE=HvyHitter81;2014440]Well, been here in Seoul for some time now and figured I put in some reviews of my own.
My recent encounter was a girl from BP. I have had some experiences on BP both good and bad I guess. As everyone probably knows most of the girls on there are not using their own pictures. Her name is Yu-Jin if you do a search you can find here as HotKimYuJin.
As I always do, I like to meet the girls in front of the motel, from my first look, it was kinda dark but she looked legit, she was pretty in the face and her figured looked from what I can tell pretty damn good. We got upstairs into the light of the room and yea she was definitely not the girl. Besides not being the girl in the picture she was pretty good looking and had a great attitude. Had a decent body, showered and got down to business. She has a pretty fat booty for a korean girl, she isn't your typical skinny korean girl (those girls are not my type and what I look for). All in all it was a pretty good service.
Had some good times a pretty much all the Anmas here that have been mentioned on the forum. I think the best Anma I have been to was Fish Anma as they had a fluffer right after you get off the elevator that gives a quick BJ and a ride on the bench chair there wearing a mask...[/QUOTE]
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Escorts in Seoul
Hi guys,
I will be visiting Seoul in a few months. Just wanted to know how the escort scene in Seoul was, how the hotels react to it etc. I found some agencies through google but would appreciate if someone can suggest a few trusted agencies. Also what about the reliability of BackPage?
I know I should look through the thread, and I tried. But I could find nothing on escorts but a lot on massage places, clubs and brothel type places.
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You have to go like 10 pages back and start reading from there. I saw some reviews and some were good reviews and some were bad. You can even find the backpage posts that were reviewed. I was also wondering how the hotel react to it.
[QUOTE=Klassic;2020681]Hi guys,
I will be visiting Seoul in a few months. Just wanted to know how the escort scene in Seoul was, how the hotels react to it etc. I found some agencies through google but would appreciate if someone can suggest a few trusted agencies. Also what about the reliability of BackPage?
I know I should look through the thread, and I tried. But I could find nothing on escorts but a lot on massage places, clubs and brothel type places.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=HiGuy808;2020747]You have to go like 10 pages back and start reading from there. I saw some reviews and some were good reviews and some were bad. You can even find the backpage posts that were reviewed. I was also wondering how the hotel react to it.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I dug some more. Got some good reviews and bad ones, noted down few agencies. Saw that some Backpage ads were real while some were agencies operating Bait & Switch. It's unfortunate. But I guess I've done the basic RTTF and I'm OK prepared for the trip, any further input for hotels and information on girls this would be great though.
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Have fun on your trip. Hope you post some updates. Got a trip there in Dec.
[QUOTE=Klassic;2021081]Yeah, I dug some more. Got some good reviews and bad ones, noted down few agencies. Saw that some Backpage ads were real while some were agencies operating Bait & Switch. It's unfortunate. But I guess I've done the basic RTTF and I'm OK prepared for the trip, any further input for hotels and information on girls this would be great though.[/QUOTE]
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Miari RLD Request
I'm looking for a Regular or Senior Member who is (1) currently in Seoul, (2) speaks some Korean, and (3) is comfortable visiting RLD's. If that describes you, I'm asking that you visit the Miari RLD for me and do a little searching. I know that this is a weird request; I'm in the US currently so obviously I cannot go to Miari myself. PM me for details.
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Mia Sash. Did anyone try?
Hello everyone,
Going to seoul tonight and looking for some punting in Seoul. Came across Mia Sash from BP. Did anyone try?
Cheers!
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Second Punting in Seoul
Nearly 2 years ago, I had a taste of Korea in Cheongyangni aka 588. This time I went with my korean friend to Miari Texas.
Initially I was reluctant, but later my korean friend persuaded me. He spoke to the "ajumma" and insisted that my "size" won't be a problem. Though she was unwilling, but later she showed some girls.
I was directed to a room where the girl came and indicated me to take my clothes off.
She came back to the room in a while along with some sanitizer, wet wipes. She undressed herself, cleaned me up and gave me a blowjob to erection. While I could only touch her nipples and breasts--no kissing or licking allowed. Once erect, she sat on me for sometime until we changed to missionary.
I was really going slow until she asked me to increase the speed. After 4-5 minutes, I cummed, she removed my condom and cleaned me up again. I was told to dress up and she offered me a yakult.
Overall experience- Very mechanical. No intimate experience. So 5/10.
Damage- 100000 KRW!
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Safe?
Hello,
How safe are escorts from known escort agencies such as Bohemian, from Sexually Transmitted Infections / diseases? Do they check their girls regularly? How about, Sophie especially?
And, how about the same from kiss escorts? Especially, Dana?
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Being horny my judgment got the better of me and I decided to give a BP girl a try. Emailed a girl by the name of are. Park (should be easy enough to find and steer clear of) because she had a couple reviews and a video proclaiming to be "her. " Of course, the girl that showed up wasn't even close. I asked her if it was the same pic and she said yes despite the girl in the pics having a very clear difference in bust size and skin tone. Threw her a couple bills for a taxi and said goodbye. She (probably her "manager") emailed offering to send a different girl but I politely declined. Think I'll have to try a rld or maybe one of the traveling women instead.
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Miari Texas: first visit in Seoul
Hi,
Been visiting ISG for advice on and off for over a decade and a half so I feel obliged to start contributing here. Yes I have been a bit lazy. Thanks everyone for all the guidance. I am not a constant monger however the latest happenings have been too exciting to not be shared.
Have been in Korea for a short business trip. My Korean is limited to maybe 5 words, all related to non-mongering stuff. Had been reading the ISG and other forums for a few days and consequently the tempo had started to build up slowly and steadily. I was not really sure about whether to go for MPs or KB or plain old RLDs. I had never seen the Amsterdam-style RLDs, so when I read that old Seoul has one of them, I was just too excited. I did have one condition to myself that I will not visit any non-Korean, no matter what the price. No discrimination, but as they say, when in Korea, .
Based on most reviews, I decided to visit Miari Texas and / or Cheonho. I ruled out Itaewon as I believe it does not have the Korea allure. I planned to leave at about 7 PM. But just before final brush up on the forum, I read some negative reviews about YMMVs and attitude towards foreigners in most of the RLDs. So I decided to try my best to avoid a disappointed night. I shaved (yep over there too). Took a bath with scrub. Put on perfume. Decent clothes. Brushed teeth. And off to Miari.
The directions to Miari Texas were pretty accurate on ISG. Go out of exit 10 and half-length curtains were there. There was a mamasan at the gate. It was past 10 or so and quite dark. The street was mostly deserted with only some cars passing by. Now instead of going into the curtain, I don't know why I went on the pavement next to the road. Within 100 meters, I passed maybe 3 mamasan standing outside. Only one of them greeted me. Suddenly a surge of nervousness gripped me and I kept walking maybe for 300 more meters. Then turned back towards the subway and again walked past everything including the subway itself. This time mamasan did not approach me as some Korean guys were walking nearby.
CP Lesson- 1: mamasan will not call you if there are Korean guys around.
Anyway, turned again and this time walked straight to the mamasan who had greeted me and slowed down. I also made sure there was no Korean around. She was on the pavement itself. She said Agassi Agassi. From the tone I realized that she was suggesting a girl. She symboled 9 with fingers referring to 90 K. I said OK.
Then she turned to the side door of the house and knocked couple times saying some code-words. Like those 007 flicks. The door opened and insides were quite a sensory shock for me. There were multi-colored neon lights. Some music. TV with footage from 4 CCTV cameras. Place looked right out of one of lady Gaga songs. There were 4 ladies sitting on the floor with prom dresses. 2 of them were in mid 30's. The other 2 were mid 20's and a bit chubby.
Now my primary aim was to be within the errr arms of a Korean lady. But after the about of nervousness, I decided to pick one of the cute 20 yr ones. Those prom dresses do nicely hide the volume of a person's body. Anyway she got up. I removed my shoes. I tried to ask what was the duration allowed 20 minutes or 1 hour as the ISG forums were not clear. Response I got was a completely blank face. It did not matter as IMHO they had been quite honest about price so I assumed they would ping me when time is up. Anyway I paid up and was directed to a small room maybe 10 ftx8 ft. It looked like a room for college girls. There was no COT but a thick mattress was on floor. There was a faint yellow bulb in which we could just about see enough not to topple. I said I wanted brighter room. Mamasan said all rooms are same. I wasn't willing to agree but then my girl appeared and she said the same thing. How could I argue with a beautiful girl?
So mamas an left and we entered the room. She signaled me to remove the coat. Which I did and waited. After 5 minutes she came in all naked and I was like, what? She was quite chubby. She didn't have hanging fat or loose skin. Did not have pot belly or something. Skin was really smooth and no bubbles. But she was fuller and overweight equally proportionally in all the places. She was also surprised that I was in clothes and asked me to remove all. So I obliged. Then she signaled me to lie down. She wiped my upper body with wet wipes and tissues. She kept saying something in Korean but I could not understand single thing.
CP lesson-2: not knowing Korean is a huge disadvantage for your experience.
It really helps to know some Korean. To communicate with her. I would say a 100 word vocabulary is pretty good enough for us for mongering purpose.
Then she preceded start with the BBBJ. Man she was good. She stroked by member in between and also used the tongue at appropriate intervals to increase the sensory nerves. It had hardly been 2 minutes that she put the hat. Now I was not fully ready but could not explain her. She then put some gel on her area and signaled me to get up and she would lie down. See now how important lesson 2 is. One of the best things about this girl was that her body was very flexible. She could really bend the chubby legs and stuck her left foot to the wall and right one in the air with that knee almost touching the bed. We started with missionary and I was just too amazed by her body. I was not sure I would be able to handle her. Meanwhile I realized the Korean hats were more suitable for a typical Korean / person (no offense) and were restricting my Jonny to fully grow upto his potential. I would not call myself largely endowed, but I have come to believe john's girth is quite above the average percentile.
Initially I started slow for a few minutes and she started fake moaning. I asked for DFK. She said no. Boy what a turn off. But then when I built the tempo, she started acting more naturally. Most of the time she held up her neck to keep looking at my member doing the job and seemed to be turned on by it. Now I am all flattered but this does not let me kiss on her lips of get into fully intimate close-body posture. So I gently pushed her head back to the bed and got really close. Another brilliant thing about her was that she had no plastic surgery done at all. I love it when a lady is proud of her body and doesn't feel insufficient about it. All the plastic surgery ones are thus a big no-no for me. On a few occasions, I even clasped her rack a little more than typically expected and she was OK. I reached out and stroked her rear end a few times and grasped it with my hand. Sure my hands were too small to contain them in my hold. So I just patted them a few times softly. Note: note hard-slapped them because a) it is derogatory and b) that girl is a human being, so be gentle. Although at some moments I did completely rest my whole body on top of her so she felt somewhat squeezed. I am somewhat heavy build person. And a bit overweight too, although don't have pot belly. Yet.
By now she was quite aroused and warm. She put her arms around me. I asked for removing the hat but she refused totally. She said something Korea. Don't know if that meant Korean men only or it is not allowed in Korea. But she kind of puckered up her lips (like we do while whistling) and gave a few kisses. She said something something in Korean. But oh god lesson- 2. Now I was hoping that the night is finally reaching somewhere when there was a knock at the door. This was a huge turn off. The girl was very courteous and did not say anything to me and just acknowledged the knocking. She hugged me and held me to try to help me reach my happy ending. But I kept going on. Then mamasan knocked again. This time she had an apologetic look and pointed to her wrist. I believe she meant time is up. I kept going for 5 more minutes and finally had to withdraw as it was not going anywhere near the final target.
She apologized and cleaned me up and left. My pulse was throbbing really hard and I was totally out of breath. I relaxed for a few minutes when she came back with the dress on. She said something nicely. I dressed up. Gave her 10 K for the fact that she respected her body and left. On the way out they gave me a Yakut. Before I exited, the mamasan again checked the cameras etc. And put her ear on the door to check if someone is outside. Man. What the heck. Everyone knows what's going in here. Anyway I get out.
Overall experience:
Body: 6 chubby and curvy but no hanging belly.
Face: 8 cute.
Attitude: 4 quite mechanical.
Rack: 9.
Note: by this time I think I was in love with her. But I needed to get some basics fixed to have a proper experience. Will write another article about next experience. Thanks for reading.
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How'd it go?
[quote]Hello everyone,
Going to seoul tonight and looking for some punting in Seoul. Came across Mia Sash from BP. Did anyone try?
Cheers! [/quote]Seen her on BP but not willing to pull the trigger on this one yet. Let everyone know how it went and if she's legit.
Hope it all goes well.
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Visit to Cheonho RLD
After the first experience at Miari, I felt as if I had done a good workout. Like treadmill for half an hour. My thighs, back and arms felt bit tight and exhausted. But it was only 11 so I decided to have a trip to Cheonho also. I promised myself that even if Johnny is not in full mood by the time I reach there, at least I will gather intel for the possible next trip. So off I went to Cheonho. The RLD fairly close and again thanks ISG for providing the accurate direction. It is another story that I wasted 5 minutes as I had not paid attention to the directions on the forum. Anyway after 5 minutes of retracing my steps to station and reading the directions again, I followed the path properly. Got straight from exit 6. After 150 meters took right turn at the big crossing. After another 150 meters turned left to cross the road. At this point I was facing the RLD. Kept walking on the short road and at the end of 50 meters I could see the entrance. I could faintly see the areas was lit with bright pink / blue lights pouring from some "shops" and concluded that his must be the RLD. Sure at the entrance there was an elderly man sitting, I presume to ward off adolescent and such.
This time I had a strong will to not give in to the first mamasan who approaches me and be picky. As I entered the RLD road, a surprise occurred and the mamasans started waving at me saying agshi agashi. Now this was again a shock as from what I had heard the place was not foreigner friendly. Initially I wondered why they had become so friendly towards me. I am north Indian and don't look like a typical Asian guy at all. Just then I realized that there was no Korean guy around on the stretch of the road. Made me remember the lesson-1 again.
This district has a high concentration of glass window like places. Each place had full sized glass panes towards the street so one can have a full view of inside. The places were right next to each other and pretty much all were open to business. I guess because Friday late night is one of the peak business hours. Only a few of them were closed. The road was well lit with multi colored lights pouring in from inside of the houses. All the rooms were very well lit. Made me feel I had entered a 70's movie set. Each place had 3-5 ladies sitting there like K-Pop stars. As the mamasans started approaching me, I freaked out again. I was not ready for this kind of flood and started walking briskly. My nerves acting up again. But I did try to take a quick glance inside the windows at most of the girls. After the Miari experience, I knew what spots to look at even though I did it at a velocity of roughly 15 girls per minute.
What I remember is that about a quarter of them were slim and tall. Although the tallness could have been the result of those 4 inch heels. Another quarter were overweight and rest were average sized. Neither too slim nor fat. Each of them had a ton of make-up. To make them look like K-pop stars I guess. Probably two thirds had some sort of face or body job done. I personally prefer naturals, even if it is 31 B. Typically ladies were in late 20's or late 30's. Many even over 40's. Pretty much most of them were Asians. I am not sure if they are mostly Korean as I did not speak to them or pay too close attention.
All in all, about one in 10 were of my acceptable range for that time. Slim-to average, no surgery and under 30. But I decided to have a walk around the whole district to gauge the different areas and attempt to find hidden treasures. The initial stretch is quite well concentrated with many service places on both sides. At the end of the road, I turned right and then there were many more narrower streets and alleys. Each had many places again but the density was less. In between I could see some small eating places for the working ladies I guess. I could still see some mamasans cooking at 1 AM in the night. I guess these were the be roads or see roads. The initial stretch had been fairly broad such that 2-3 trucks can pass comfortably. But some of the later stretches were so narrow that even a car cannot pass them. However the space is enough for pedestrians. One suggestions – at the narrow lanes, while you are ogling at the ladies, do pay some attention to the road also. I was in a narrower lane and while looking at ladies in one place, I stumbled and was almost going to fall flat on my face. Luckily I managed not falling but this provided a moment for amusement for all the ladies. And a red face of embarrassment for me. I was even close to deciding to check out one of them. But had to move on. Imagine the girls were looking at me through corner of their eyes at one moment anticipating a customer and bursting into laughter the very next thanks to the joker act.
Anyway, I kept moving and walking and I am not sure which street came when and where I turned. But after a few minutes, one of the narrow alleys exited into the main road.
Although Jonny was not in much mood yet, I headed towards the RLD again. Hoping that going near the one-in-ten of the ladies might change my mood. This time I had another surprise. No one, repeat no one of the mamasans paid any attention. This didn't feel like just cold shouldering. It felt cruel. I was a bit exasperated and a bit curious. Looked around and saw that there were a couple Korean guys walking around. At this point I tried to just keep walking. But another Korean came in just wen first 2 were going out of sight. When he went, couple other Koreans exited a SP. I kept walking into smaller alleys. Again one Korean guy or another kept popping from somewhere. I could hardly believe my luck. Every time a Korean would come, he would become the center of affection of all mamasans and they would pounce on him. At the same time I would get completely ignored, as if telling the Korean that the establishment does not cater to outsiders.
What's worse was that the couple girls I had liked had been taken as well. So the enthusiasm started to really wane away. Good thing I learnt was.
CP Lesson 1 b: even if Korean guys are around and I get ignored, don't lose heart. Walk around and come again. If there is no Korean guy, mamasans will approach you. However, 20%-50% of mamasans will not approach you no matter what. Don't lose hope there are plenty of fish in the sea. Plenty and I really mean plenty.
All in all I would say I didn't like the concept of Cheonho so much as I am somewhat shy natured. Having dozens of ladies looking at me and half a dozen mamasans calling me gave me the nervous. I liked the private sort of concept they have in Miari. If I had been someone who likes lot of lights or bedazzled looks or was fan of K-pop or maybe preferred women with more endowed rack proportions (even if they came by surgery), I would have liked it.
Went back to hotel hoping to come again in future with better preparations. Tugged myself off. Went to sleep.
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Only thing I need to still try.
[QUOTE=SeoulSex;2019563]My regular massage joint has wised up a few months ago and raised their prices up to the regular market price. Although it is not a huge loss for me since my regular SP who gave me god-like service had since left the business.
I came back from a visit to an officetel a couple hours ago and will write a report while it is still fresh in my mind. I have never been to one before and was very curious about the service. I am a foreign born Korean and my Korean is passable so it was easy to set up an appointment and follow directions. I did not want to travel very far from my home this time, so I checked out the places nearby the nearest college area. I found a business online, gave them a call, asked for the girl, and got there on at the appointed time (7:50 pm). They wanted me to call them at the train station for detailed instructions to the officetel, but after some pestering they gave it to me on the phone.
I arrive at the officetel and think immediately that I am in the wrong building because it looked like the priciest apartment in the neighborhood. But it's the right one because the gate password is right. I ride the elevator up and when I get off the floor I am greeted by a man in his late twenties? I thought he might have been a patron. He takes me to another floor and guides me to the room before asking me for the pay. It was really expensive (130,000 won / HR + 40,000 "gift" much more than what I am accustomed to but I consider it as a treat to myself and pay the man. He tells me the room number and gets back on the elevator..[/QUOTE]So how do I go about getting into and officetel? Its the only thing I haven't tried yet.
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[QUOTE=Varuag58;2021981]Hello everyone,
Going to seoul tonight and looking for some punting in Seoul. Came across Mia Sash from BP. Did anyone try?
Cheers![/QUOTE]Yes. She legit and independent. Incall at her hotel at Myeong-dong and maybe later at Gangnam, much more cheaper than outcall. Pictures and actual are the same, can check her pic in BP. Only complaint that I have was she not show enthusiastic enough. Big beautiful boob with enhancement. Very pretty and tall. Can search her Insta for more pic using her name.
Cheers and good luck.
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Fish and Ace Anma
Today I was eager to try Fish Anma, but when I stepped into the shop I was greated by: No foreigners allowed! So I went over to the nearby Ace Anma. Here I was admitted, but the price was 280.000 so I declined and decided to try MVP-VIP Massage instead.
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MVP-VIP Massage
Easy to find in the basement of the cornerbuilding when you use Exit 5 of Gangnam Station. 120.000 seems a fair enough price for FS in Seoul. I was welcome and papasan communicated whith me by google translate. I took a shower and used the bell to call my Provider. She was a tall, good looking MILF with nice natural boobs. I received a catbath followed by a CBJ, then several positions and she was always cooperative. At this place value for money is absolutely ok; I would repeat.
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More details
[QUOTE=Traveller747;2023770]Easy to find in the basement of the cornerbuilding when you use Exit 5 of Gangnam Station. 120.000 seems a fair enough price for FS in Seoul. I was welcome and papasan communicated whith me by google translate. I took a shower and used the bell to call my Provider. She was a tall, good looking MILF with nice natural boobs. I received a catbath followed by a CBJ, then several positions and she was always cooperative. At this place value for money is absolutely ok; I would repeat.[/QUOTE]What was the allotted duration. Do you get to select the lady?
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[QUOTE=CoolDudeNo2;2022847]Hello,
How safe are escorts from known escort agencies such as Bohemian, from Sexually Transmitted Infections / diseases? Do they check their girls regularly? How about, Sophie especially?
And, how about the same from kiss escorts? Especially, Dana?[/QUOTE]Highly doubt they check. Just cover up and you won't need to worry. I ate Sophie out (disappointing lay BTW) and I didn't catch anything, if that is helpful.
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Mvp-vip
[QUOTE=ChinchPopli;2023831]What was the allotted duration. Do you get to select the lady?[/QUOTE]Duration was 1 hour; papasan asked me what type I want but no selection.
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Cheonho RLD
It is reachable after a few minutes walking out of exit 3 of Cheonho station. I arrived at 10:30 pm and strolled along the windows. No other custumer in sight and many windows empty. Several ladies ignored me, the western guy, but some tried to call me in. I didn't find any real beauty but all were doable. One mamasan had 4 girls in here window and she made a special offer: 30 minutes for 100.000. I accepted and got one who had a big tattoo all over here back. She was a little afraid of my normal sized western equipment, but on the other hand she also admired it. Maybe it was just a show. She was a bubbly person and if I would have been able to speak korean, she would have been a lot of fun. No GFE to be expected here, but a good old fuck.
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[QUOTE=ChinchPopli;2023178] Anyway after 5 minutes of retracing my steps to station and reading the directions again, I followed the path properly. Got straight from exit 6. After 150 meters took right turn at the big crossing. After another 150 meters turned left to cross the road. At this point I was facing the RLD. Kept walking on the short road and at the end of 50 meters I could see the entrance. I could faintly see the areas was lit with bright pink / blue lights pouring from some "shops" and concluded that his must be the RLD. Sure at the entrance there was an elderly man sitting, I presume to ward off adolescent and such.
[/QUOTE]The directions given above are rather misleading. Exit 6 is a bad start. Sounds more like directions from exit 3. Anyway the following direction from exit 5 provided earlier are better:
Google Maps gives this as the location: 423-246 Cheonho 2 (I) -dong, Gangdong-gu. Anyway. Exit Cheonho station exit 5 and walk exactly 135 yards straight ahead until you get to a pair of large aluminum "tusks" at the entrance to a street. There is a club on the corner called "Ho Club / Ho Bar" (No shit! Turn left and walk to the end of the street. Approx 200 yds. You'll pass a "Jack Daniels" bar on the right about half way down. When the street ends (Bar on the corner called "Bar Festa" Keep walking straight across the cross street and go into the alley / market. Walk to the end and turn left at the "T" intersection. You'll start seeing the pink lights.
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[QUOTE=Traveller747;2024547]It is reachable after a few minutes walking out of exit 3 of Cheonho station. I arrived at 10:30 pm and strolled along the windows. No other custumer in sight and many windows empty. Several ladies ignored me, the western guy, but some tried to call me in. I didn't find any real beauty but all were doable. One mamasan had 4 girls in here window and she made a special offer: 30 minutes for 100.000. I accepted and got one who had a big tattoo all over here back. She was a little afraid of my normal sized western equipment, but on the other hand she also admired it. Maybe it was just a show. She was a bubbly person and if I would have been able to speak korean, she would have been a lot of fun. No GFE to be expected here, but a good old fuck.[/QUOTE]I was at Cheonho this past Thursday, and most of the booths are still open. 100 k for 30 minutes is a good deal, prices are listed on a sheet of paper, which read:
20 minutes= 80 k.
30 minutes= 120 k.
45 minutes= 150 k.
1 hour= 210 k.
Using a credit card adds a premium to these rates, somewhere around 30-40 k more. Prices are about the same as when I went last year.
I spoke with one of the mamasans before the presentation, and she said that later this year, part of the area will be torn down. And she believes within the next 1-2 years, the entire area will be demolished. I know this has been rumored for quite some time (I remember hearing about this back in 2006), so can take the news with a grain of salt until it actually starts happening.
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Vip mvp seoul
Hi friends,
The VIP in Seoul is one very good place. Safe, clean & for FS.
Entered the place and they Allotted the room, got myself cleaned and then rang the bell. In came an Mid age Korean looking but Thai girl but she had a very nice shape, sexy round + soft tits and a nice Ass. Clean & Shaven. Started with a slow massage rub, dub on the BUM, testicles and there the player was ready.
Undressed her totally & started the act. The best & sex appeal for me was she had a 3 tattoos. 1 on the back, neck and the legs. It was seductive and she licked the dick, sucked the Nips softly and gently. Finished the act, tipped and off the johnny left happily. The total cost was 110,000 KW. Could have negotiated to 80-90 but due to language couldn't.
Will surely, visit once in my next visit. As I also saw some pretty girls during my exit.
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Is GFE hard to find?
Hello everyone!
First off, thank you to everyone that has given advice / recommendations / instructions / guides / etc. It's been almost 8 years since my last time in Korea and I feel like everything has changed (especially the prices). I really started to monger in the States almost 12 years ago, but lately because of work I've had a great opportunity to travel and monger in different areas. I went to a local anma near Gangnam recently and, while the experience was nice, it wasn't what I'm used to when it comes to mongering. I've become so accustomed to GFE sessions back in the States, Canada, Mexico, India, Hong Kong (hit-and-miss) and I'm really hoping to find a GFE kgirl experience that I've come used to in the States.
From my research, it seems like the majority of anma and RLD experiences will be more wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am experiences. Is it safe to assume that the GFE sessions will mainly be offered by officetel girls? If so, is there a place where I can find a listing for it? I'm here for work and will be here for the next month or so. Any / all help is most welcome. Thank you everyone in advance!
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Lip Cafe
Every time I go, I am reminded why I shouldn't come back.
For people who don't know the procedure: you call them, they ask for website you found them and your website ID name, you make the appointment, they tell you the directions at the subway station.
This girl used her mouth maybe 50% of the time and her hand the other 50%. It was terrible. With only 10 minutes to finish, I had to really focus. Waste of 40.000, use your money literally anywhere else.
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Need your help in Seoul
Long story short. I can't connect to 2 of escort girl in Seoul right now. They are real independent and really busy posting AD at BP everyday since last year but on 21st or 22nd of April both of them gone silent. No AD at BP, no tweet, no insta. Using their service in middle of April in Seoul and both of them are really good but why they go silent really bother me. They do not know each other. At 1st I think it's because of "that things in the month" for women but today already more than a week. If you're doing outcall in Seoul right now please ask around if they know something, maybe because of police raid or agency raid. I hope this silent because both of them decide to take vacation and relax.
If some of you are not in Seoul and can help me to send msg to their Kakaotalk app, I really appreciate it. Just try to say "Hi" and wait for reply. I try to avoid to sending msg to their Kakaotalk because in our msg history, lots of talk about price, service and meeting place and I'm meeting them both twice so I don't want any trouble for them if they were caught. Their Kakaotalk ID: "miasashseoul" and "sweetjace01". Miasash travelling to Seoul by boy / girlfriend and sweetjace01 is local. Miasash already delete all of her AD history in BP Seoul (maybe by her boy / girlfriend) and sweetjace last post on 21st midnight.
Hope this just my imagination and silly thinking but because I saw them twice and both went silent on a same day make me freak out thinking about it. Please reply to me if you got any info and if you're officer who are monitoring, sent me some input.
Thank you.
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Mvp-VIP
[QUOTE=GoldenRule;2027346]Hi friends,
The VIP in Seoul is one very good place. Safe, clean & for FS.
Entered the place and they Allotted the room, got myself cleaned and then rang the bell. In came an Mid age Korean looking but Thai girl but she had a very nice shape, sexy round + soft tits and a nice Ass. Clean & Shaven. Started with a slow massage rub, dub on the BUM, testicles and there the player was ready.
Undressed her totally & started the act. The best & sex appeal for me was she had a 3 tattoos. 1 on the back, neck and the legs. It was seductive and she licked the dick, sucked the Nips softly and gently. Finished the act, tipped and off the johnny left happily. The total cost was 110,000 KW. Could have negotiated to 80-90 but due to language couldn't.
Will surely, visit once in my next visit. As I also saw some pretty girls during my exit.[/QUOTE]You went there during the week or weekend? It was daytime or evening? I've been there recently and I got quoted 120,000 won. But you said you could negotiate?
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[QUOTE=JayWalk0104;2028631]Long story short. I can't connect to 2 of escort girl in Seoul right now. They are real independent and really busy posting AD at BP everyday since last year but on 21st or 22nd of April both of them gone silent. No AD at BP, no tweet, no insta. Using their service in middle of April in Seoul and both of them are really good but why they go silent really bother me. They do not know each other. At 1st I think it's because of "that things in the month" for women but today already more than a week. If you're doing outcall in Seoul right now please ask around if they know something, maybe because of police raid or agency raid. I hope this silent because both of them decide to take vacation and relax.
If some of you are not in Seoul and can help me to send msg to their Kakaotalk app, I really appreciate it. Just try to say "Hi" and wait for reply. I try to avoid to sending msg to their Kakaotalk because in our msg history, lots of talk about price, service and meeting place and I'm meeting them both twice so I don't want any trouble for them if they were caught. Their Kakaotalk ID: "miasashseoul" and "sweetjace01". Miasash travelling to Seoul by boy / girlfriend and sweetjace01 is local. Miasash already delete all of her AD history in BP Seoul (maybe by her boy / girlfriend) and sweetjace last post on 21st midnight.
Hope this just my imagination and silly thinking but because I saw them twice and both went silent on a same day make me freak out thinking about it. Please reply to me if you got any info and if you're officer who are monitoring, sent me some input.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]I am pretty sure it is a holiday weekend in So. Korea as it is in most of Asia. Just a thought.
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[QUOTE=VancouverBoy;2028916]You went there during the week or weekend? It was daytime or evening? I've been there recently and I got quoted 120,000 won. But you said you could negotiate?[/QUOTE]I don't buy this. I was there in the last week, and the price was 120,000 won. This is the same as it was the previous time I went, late last year. I speak some Korean, and 120 was simply the price. It is possible that Korean-looking men get a discount, but as a white man I wouldn't know. Also, the time is not 1 hour but 40 minutes. I asked the man at the counter and he confirmed. I asked again if 45 minutes was possible, and he said no. Not angrily, not clearly. No. All girls are Chinese except for a Thai woman who was there before but isn't anymore.
Still a good place in that it is welcoming and always open and convenient.
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[QUOTE=Halcyon901;2025845]I spoke with one of the mamasans before the presentation, and she said that later this year, part of the area will be torn down. And she believes within the next 1-2 years, the entire area will be demolished. I know this has been rumored for quite some time (I remember hearing about this back in 2006), so can take the news with a grain of salt until it actually starts happening.[/QUOTE]Rumors of Cheonho shutting down have been floating for a long time. However, seeing how Yongsan is now a multi complex highrise, 588 destroyed, and YDP slowly being pushed out I wouldn't be surprised. However, what is saving Cheonho is that the area does not seem to be gentrifying so rapidly. Yongsan had Park Tower right next to it, 588 has the Lotte Towers next door and YDP has Times Square literally 5 feet from it. Cheonho does not seem to under such pressure although one can never tell with Seoul's rapid development. So far, the area does seem safe from contractors for the time being.
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[QUOTE=JamesKm1984;2027654]Hello everyone!
First off, thank you to everyone that has given advice / recommendations / instructions / guides / etc. It's been almost 8 years since my last time in Korea and I feel like everything has changed (especially the prices). I really started to monger in the States almost 12 years ago, but lately because of work I've had a great opportunity to travel and monger in different areas. I went to a local anma near Gangnam recently and, while the experience was nice, it wasn't what I'm used to when it comes to mongering. I've become so accustomed to GFE sessions back in the States, Canada, Mexico, India, Hong Kong (hit-and-miss) and I'm really hoping to find a GFE kgirl experience that I've come used to in the States.
From my research, it seems like the majority of anma and RLD experiences will be more wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am experiences. Is it safe to assume that the GFE sessions will mainly be offered by officetel girls? If so, is there a place where I can find a listing for it? I'm here for work and will be here for the next month or so. Any / all help is most welcome. Thank you everyone in advance![/QUOTE]I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the GFE in Seoul as an expat is not easy to find these days. Officetels do provide GFE but without the ability to speak Korean, you'll most likely be denied service. That does not mean it's impossible but with only a month to work with, it will be an uphill adventure. I think your best bet is to try the Itaewon bar scene on Hooker Hill and find a woman who will offer GFE.
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[QUOTE=JayWalk0104;2028631]Long story short. I can't connect to 2 of escort girl in Seoul right now. They are real independent and really busy posting AD at BP everyday since last year but on 21st or 22nd of April both of them gone silent. No AD at BP, no tweet, no insta. Using their service in middle of April in Seoul and both of them are really good but why they go silent really bother me. They do not know each other. At 1st I think it's because of "that things in the month" for women but today already more than a week. If you're doing outcall in Seoul right now please ask around if they know something, maybe because of police raid or agency raid. I hope this silent because both of them decide to take vacation and relax.
If some of you are not in Seoul and can help me to send msg to their Kakaotalk app, I really appreciate it. Just try to say "Hi" and wait for reply. I try to avoid to sending msg to their Kakaotalk because in our msg history, lots of talk about price, service and meeting place and I'm meeting them both twice so I don't want any trouble for them if they were caught..[/QUOTE]Miasash left the country. I tried getting in touch with her as well and she emailed me back said she already left.
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Background Info
Short term member here, long time monger. I'm looking for some information on a specific girl who works on Hooker Hill. Her name is Sue, presently working out of Moonshine. I believe she used to work out of Tiffany's and possibly Cheers before that. If you know her, please send me a PM. I have some questions I don't want to ask in open forum. Thanks and good luck mongering in Korea!
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[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2029587]I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the GFE in Seoul as an expat is not easy to find these days. Officetels do provide GFE but without the ability to speak Korean, you'll most likely be denied service. That does not mean it's impossible but with only a month to work with, it will be an uphill adventure. I think your best bet is to try the Itaewon bar scene on Hooker Hill and find a woman who will offer GFE.[/QUOTE]Hey ShimShimHeyo!
Thanks for the reply! Fortunately, I do speak (and read) Korean, so the language barrier wouldn't be an issue. I did some research on another review board and they mentioned an agency called Bohemian. While I don't mind using an agency, it would be nice to see an indy GFE girl. Is there like a Korean version of sex 141? Seems like BP is nothing but scams.
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Are there really no in call places to go here? I've searched religiously, and all I can find are small massage shops with 1 really old woman. No saunas? I found one place in Gangnam that looked promising, but was turned away at the door.
Judging from what I've seen so far, I'd say that this is not a good city for mongering. I'd say save your money and go to Thailand instead. This is not a good place for a Loner. Great for sociable bar-flies and people with many friends, however. So many places for them to go! In some places, just about every shop is a bar or restaurant.
But absolutely no porn shops to be found anywhere! Even the DVD viewing shops are legitimate places. In a word, this city really sucks unless yoυ have many friends to hang out with. If you're at all like me, I'd say go to Tokyo instead. You'll be really happy you did!
You couldn't find a more frustrating city than this. Even the amusement parks are way to crowded to enjoy yourself.
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[QUOTE=Smapti;2031038]Are there really no in call places to go here? I've searched religiously, and all I can find are small massage shops with 1 really old woman. No saunas? I found one place in Gangnam that looked promising, but was turned away at the door.
Judging from what I've seen so far, I'd say that this is not a good city for mongering. I'd say save your money and go to Thailand instead. This is not a good place for a Loner. Great for sociable bar-flies and people with many friends, however. So many places for them to go! In some places, just about every shop is a bar or restaurant.
But absolutely no porn shops to be found anywhere! Even the DVD viewing shops are legitimate places. In a word, this city really sucks unless yoυ have many friends to hang out with. If you're at all like me, I'd say go to Tokyo instead. You'll be really happy you did!
You couldn't find a more frustrating city than this. Even the amusement parks are way to crowded to enjoy yourself.[/QUOTE]I agree the sex shops and video shop in tokyo are common but as far as japanese girls with whitey. Its very similar to here with korean girls. Also expensive.
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[QUOTE=JamesKm1984;2030869]Hey ShimShimHeyo!
Thanks for the reply! Fortunately, I do speak (and read) Korean, so the language barrier wouldn't be an issue. I did some research on another review board and they mentioned an agency called Bohemian. While I don't mind using an agency, it would be nice to see an indy GFE girl. Is there like a Korean version of sex 141? Seems like BP is nothing but scams.[/QUOTE]If your Korean is good then you could try to book an officetel, though I don't know of any of the Korean message boards or apps. I'd casually ask a Korean friend / coworker I've heard about Bohemian but I've never tried it myself. BP is about 90% agencies that don't give a shit about us and the GFE is not a guarantee.
Here's a shot in the dark. Try a Kissbang and see if you can spark up a casual relationship with a girl that you like. You have the advantage of being able to speak Korean.
If all else fails and you have the money, try Sarah Miehn (google her name + Seoul escort). She's an independent that will 100% deliver with the GFE. However, she comes with a lengthy authentication process and will cost you.
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[QUOTE=Smapti;2031038]Are there really no in call places to go here? I've searched religiously, and all I can find are small massage shops with 1 really old woman. No saunas? I found one place in Gangnam that looked promising, but was turned away at the door.
Judging from what I've seen so far, I'd say that this is not a good city for mongering. I'd say save your money and go to Thailand instead. This is not a good place for a Loner. Great for sociable bar-flies and people with many friends, however. So many places for them to go! In some places, just about every shop is a bar or restaurant.
But absolutely no porn shops to be found anywhere! Even the DVD viewing shops are legitimate places. In a word, this city really sucks unless yoυ have many friends to hang out with. If you're at all like me, I'd say go to Tokyo instead. You'll be really happy you did!
You couldn't find a more frustrating city than this. Even the amusement parks are way to crowded to enjoy yourself.[/QUOTE]Try Fish Anma, Ace Anma or Hera Anma. They are all in the Gangnam Area. They are not cheap though and in the 200,000+ range.
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[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2031272]Try Fish Anma, Ace Anma or Hera Anma. They are all in the Gangnam Area. They are not cheap though and in the 200,000+ range.[/QUOTE]Myself and 2 other friends tried to go to Ace Anma a couple weeks ago. Two of us are Caucasian and the other friend is South-east Asian. We were turned away at the door. The host said the place was Korean only. Has Ace changed it policy? Or do you think it is because we were a group of guys? Any non-Koreans been to Ace recently who can verify that it is still foreigner friendly?
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[QUOTE=Integ;2033176]Myself and 2 other friends tried to go to Ace Anma a couple weeks ago. Two of us are Caucasian and the other friend is South-east Asian. We were turned away at the door. The host said the place was Korean only. Has Ace changed it policy? Or do you think it is because we were a group of guys? Any non-Koreans been to Ace recently who can verify that it is still foreigner friendly?[/QUOTE]It may have been the group that swayed them. Also it may have been the time and day. Every Anma has girls that will service foreigners. It could have come down to the fact that they did not have 3 working at the time. Ace Anma has a shared shower / locker room area. When a foreigner visits, he is not sent to this area. Instead, he is sent straight to the girl's room. This is for several reasons: 1) They do not want to intimidate Korean men with foreigners packing larger tools. 2) They do not want to create the stigma that their establishment is frequented by foreigners (yes, Koreans still believe STDs are a foreigner's thing). 3) Korea can be, sadly, just plain xenophobic'.
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VIP-Gangnam
Hey all,
Longtime lurker, figured I'd start my journey to sr member.
I did a ton of research before pulling the gun on anything as I didn't want to waste money. I first tried to contact some officetels and even though I can speak Korean, albeit with an accent, they all denied me. Oh well. I decided on VIP massage in Gangnam even though I knew the girls working there aren't Korean. I followed the directions as posted here, Gangnam station (not gangnam-gu), exit 5 and followed easy to read signs. Paid 120 k won, went around 4 pm and no one was in the lobby except for the guy in charge. I didn't have any hassle or lip service from anyone and was ushered into a room where I undressed, showered and pressed the button indicating I was ready. In 10 seconds, in walks a girl named Bora (Chinese) who had an 8-9/10 body, 6/10 face but I was fine with it. Seemed to be in her late-20's, maybe early 30's. You can never tell with Asian women. They all look young until menopause am I right? LOL.
She started a mediocre massage for about 5 minutes but I wasn't really there for a massage and so upon the flip, I was happy to get on with the BBBJ. Not the best I've ever had but serviceable. She spoke very good Korean, which was much better than English so I stuck with Korean. After about 5 min of BBBJ or so, she put on the cover and got on top for some enthusiastic CG. Great view of her natural DS bouncing in my face! Moved to mish where I pounded away and it seemed like she may have been in some pain oops. So we switched to doggy and I slowed down. It was great to see her get into it, or at least pretend, grinding back into me and arching her back. Underrated movie IMO. I flipped her back over to finish in mish and casually asked if CIM was on the table- she giggled and said no which is what I expected but nbd. Popped in hat after working up a sweat, and rinsed off after. She showered after me and grabbed a drink. We casually chatted until time was up and I got up, thanked her for a good time and left. Went to a bar in the area and began reaching out to set up meetings w / some independent escorts. More on that later.
All in all, I was happy not to break the bank and get some good service even if it wasn't from a Korean girl. But I was going to change that shortly.
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Cheonho RLD
After having a few drinks and relaxing, I made my way from Gangnam to Cheonho station. Exit 3, walk straight until the 1st major road, turn right. Hook a left at the next intersection and straight ahead is a V-intersection, take the right fork and you'll see all the pink glass doors. I went around 7-8 pm on a Thursday and there was hardly anyone else around. I made a lap first to scope things out and I had mamasans and girls calling me in at nearly every window that was open. I am ethnically Asian so that probably factored into the initial friendliness as they hadn't gotten the chance to hear me speak Korean LOL.
I had some interest in some girls in the A row, but I was taken in by someone in see row as she looked similar to a friend of mine haha. So I said screw it, walked up to her and she led me upstairs. Seemed to have a little stand-off-ish attitude but I was all game for it. Paid 80 k won for 20 minutes which seems to be the standard BTW at all the shops, regardless of row. I undressed and showered sans lady, which is fine by me and laid on the bed as she showered after me. She was a tiny girl, couldn't have been more than 5'2" (just gave away the fact I'm American) with a really pretty face and nice legs. Very decent, proportional tits, a nice handful see cup and a tiny waist, giving her a nice hourglass figure. Her hair was done in a sexy geisha-style bun thing. It's the little things.
She started off with some light kissing on my body and nips then moved to a BBBJ. Much better than the one I had gotten earlier at VIP so I was happy my korean girl was off to a good start. After a few minutes, she put the cover on with her mouth for a little CBJ then hopped on for ACG and CG. She seemed to tire out really quickly unfortunately so I hopped on top for mish and began plowing my friend's doppelganger. Moved to doggy so I could get a nice view of her rear and wasn't disappointed. Shapely, for an asian girl. I mentioned her kinda blase attitude earlier and it was prevalent throughout our session, which was really the only downside but I've been with girls with outright hostile attitudes so I honestly wasn't fazed much. If anything, it fueled my desire to give her a proper fucking so when she said I had to come soon as our time was nearly running out, I countered with "no I've been keeping the actual time I've got 10 minutes left. " so I flipped her over again back into mish so I could pop looking at her pretty face and gave her hell. Finally popped and she cleaned me up and this is when she decided to warm up and open up to me LOL.
She asked if I lived elsewhere and I said "oh is it obvious with my horrendous Korean accent?" and she said yea you're not fooling anyone. But she did appreciate that I was able to converse very well. Got me a weird corn drink, said her name was jung-in or something and said to come back and see her. I honestly might, that face of hers was seriously cute. But for now, I was tired after 2 sessions so went to get some food and drinks and called it a night.
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Cheonho rld pt 2
Had some business to attend to in the interim, but when I had some free time, I decided to return to Cheonho RLD as I wanted to try out someone in the A row or maybe find my girl from my 1st session. She had finally warmed up to me at the end so perhaps she would be a little more friendly from the get go. Refer to directions in my previous post on how to get there. This time, I was there around 11pm on the weekend so it was a little busier but I saw no more than 3-4 people in one row at any given time.
I was making my way down the A row and a girl in the last window before hitting the T road caught my eye so I doubled back. The mamasan ushered me inside and she sat me down, got me a delicious aloe drink and called for the 3 girls to come in for a lineup. I chose the one that caught my eye, a taller girl around 5'6" maybe with Cs and a pretty face. The other two girls were a little too kpop-ey / anime for me with bleached hair and that dollface look. Not really into that, I prefer a more "natural" look I suppose. Again, 80 k for 20 minutes. Her name was hae won or something and she led me upstairs and made some brief smalltalk. Much better attitude than my previous girl the other night. I showered first, her after me and then she commented that westerners seemed to prefer to shave their junk. I replied I just like to keep it clean so it isn't unruly. Tmi? Anyway, routine was pretty much the same. Light kissing on the body and nipples, move down for a BBBJ. She was by far the best I've had in Korea so far- I would have been happy just having her go at it for 20 min for CIM but that wasn't going to be the situation I figured. So I enjoyed it as long as she would stay down there, then on went the cover. CG into mish and into doggy which was my personal fave with her. Extremely shapely hourglass figure, perfect skin, just an all around total beauty. Very vocal and not in that annoying Japanese porn type shit. Very tight kitty led to me cumming super hard in doggy and we both collapsed, exhausted. Made some small talk again about where I've lived, where she's traveled blahblahblah. I rinsed off in the shower and she led me downstairs and I was off.
I'm not sure if A, B, C rows etc in Cheonho RLD are indicative of the quality of girls but the attitude / service of the girl in A row was far superior to my session in see row. Both were attractive, but overall, my girl in A row was definitely the hotter package in general. Take what I say with a grain of salt here, sample size = 1.
That concludes my mongering in Seoul up till now. I'm here for another week or so and have been in touch with several escorts, both independent and thru agencies. I've been shopping prices, services offered etc and will choose 1-2 perhaps. They seem to all be pretty steep, 230-280 k is what I was quoted.
I would love to do officetel, but they can sense my accent and deny me service even if I can start a conversation. Navigating the Korean sites does shit all if you can't actually get the guys to book you so. I may have to forgo an officetel. Sad.
More reports to come hopefully. Doesn't come as cheap or easy as some other places in Asia for sure, but come on Korean girls are hot. Plus the food is the best haha.
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[QUOTE=Tsfh14;2034714]I'm not sure if A, B, C rows etc in Cheonho RLD are indicative of the quality of girls but the attitude / service of the girl in A row was far superior to my session in see row. Both were attractive, but overall, my girl in A row was definitely the hotter package in general. Take what I say with a grain of salt here, sample size = 1.[/QUOTE]You are right. A row girls are hotter and more in demand. A row also features more indies. Some will give you a business card with their number on it for future bookings outside Cheonho during the day / off hours. Be row is mainly dominated by one group. Although they look like they're in separate buildings, it's all controlled by mainly one group. See row is the wild west. Highly competitive and of somewhat lower quality, though it is possible to find a gem there. Turn around on see row is high so if you see one you like she may not be around a month later. See row is a punter's best chance to negotiate some freaky action like fetishes and what not. T row is used to be where the MILFs were but it's not really the case anymore.
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Vip mvp
I was in Korea for a short visit and I am glad I found this place. I am going to be bit more descriptive in my posting as I wanted to help out mongers who is visiting for a short time like me to find the place. If you are not staying close to Gangnam station download " Korea Subway Bus" app. This will help you to figure out where you need to go. Once you are in Gangnam station take exit 5. Exit 5 is right next to a store called Vin Prime. Once you come up you will see a Paris baguette store to your right hand side. When you look straight ahead you will see a yellow clock sign, which is hard to miss. MVP VIP is right there in the basement. You will see the sign and the number. I believe it is open 24 hrs. Three times I went there around 6 pm and once around 9 am. All 4 girls I had spoke Korean. One of them asked me if I have Kakao Talk (Korean chatting app) and noticed chatting in Korean. Price was 120 K. I am not a Korean or Asian, but never had any issues and all the guys at the door on 4 days I went there was happy to see me. Girl on the first day was hot 8, had enhanced tits, great attitude and a great sloppy BBJ. Made all the right sounds at the right time. Next three girls were 6 in looks. However, all of them offered GFE and except one (CBJ) and one of them did a rim job on me as well. All 4 girls moan well and made sounds. I guess it is a requirement. LOL. Funny thing is once you take a shower and ring the bell the guy comes with the girl and first check if you are ready. When I had the three girls with 6 on looks he dimmed the light in the room a bit, but not for the one with 8 on looks. LOL.
There are couple of other massage places close to MVP and also some bars. For me this place was a great bargain, easy and safe. In this same area on the other side of the road, in back streets, there is a street with small motels. I wish I had few more days to explore other places.
Also if you don't want to take the subway ask the hotel front desk to write down in Korean (I. E. Gangnam station) the place you need to go and also hotel address in Korean so you can return back. I was able to get around without having to say a word in Korean.
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Seoul escort
I found Haru on massagerepublic.
[URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-seoul/independent-newbie-haru22y-o[/URL]
I was in touch with her via email for a few days and had several schedule snafus. Haru is a cute, petite 21 y / o who was accommodating and flexible enough to reschedule me on a moment's notice. We switched from email to kakao (Korean messaging app) for convenience. Haru was friendly and fun via chat, sending those cute little Asian animated emojis LOL. The day of our meeting, she had asked if we could reschedule again be / see she had been out partying last night and hadn't gotten any sleep. Given her multiple re-accommodations, I felt it was only fair if I could reschedule but I was going to leave the country. With that, she said it's OK I will be there to meet you so bonus points to her for slogging on through w / no sleep.
I actually let her check into my hotel before I arrived so she could get a few hours of shut-eye and so it was I who met her at my room, if that makes any sense. She was in a bathrobe from showering and we got the donations out of the way. Her english is OK, and seemed to prefer speaking in english over me trying to speak Korean. I'm honestly not sure if the pictures are her or not, but she has a cute face and a nice little body with small, shapely boobs. Not the hottest girl ever, nor does she have that kpop look but she's still quite cute and gives off the innocent, demure schoolgirl vibe. Did I have a good time? Yes. Would I repeat? Not sure. It might have been because she was tired or a slight communication barrier or just little chemistry but there was something a little awkward or forced. It is worth mentioning that Haru is very new to the game--I mean VERY new, so it could have been the newbie jitters still lingering. She has a very shy personality and worth mentioning again that she will NOT respond well to hyped up testosterone, over-aggressive, over the top dominating types. If you're going to be a *******, stay away from this one it won't be fun for either of you.
We got comfortable into bed and she immediately latched onto me for cuddles and began licking me up and down and all over. After a few minutes of teasing, she began a slow BBBJ with attention to the boys and some light rimming as well. BBBJ skills were fairly average, didn't seem like she was very experienced with it so there is definitely room for improvement there. Afterwards, on went the cover and we began in mish. She, like most Asian girls, had a small Bush going but that doesn't bother me so it was all good. She had a super tight kitty I almost came early many times but I was careful to maximize my time with her.
After some slow mish, I flipped her over into doggy and ohhh my. For an Asian girl, she has a nice shapely butt with an hourglass figure and I was more than happy to pound away for a long time in this position. Moved to lazy doggy and then back to mish. She didn't seem to be too much into kissing, which is honestly fine by me as well but it's worth mentioning for those expecting it. She moves really well and was quite vocal throughout our session and not in that annoying Japanese porn way. I almost felt a little sorry for my neighbors. Almost. After half an hour, I blew in the cover in mish and we spent some time cuddling and talking and watching some TV. Being the gentleman I am, knowing that she didn't get a wink of sleep the night before, I sent her off home early which I think she appreciated.
All in all, a sweetheart, but not exactly a memorable session for me. YMMV perhaps when she has gained more experience and / or sleep. Maybe she will learn not to stay up clubbing all night the day before class haha.
Damage was 200 k won, one of the cheaper prices for escort.
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Last seoul report
Since it was my last day, I felt like splurging a bit. I had been in touch w / Jace for a few days and she also was very flexible in re-accommodating and my ever-shifting-at-last-minute plans.
[URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-seoul/independent-upscale[/URL]
Her English is fantastic, so there were no issues at all communicating with her. The pictures are indeed her and she can also provide more pics on request. She's a petite, 24 y/ o college student; again, doesn't have that almost too perfect look that kpop girls have but she has a very cute face and a nice body with a plump bum and beautiful, tiny be cups. I think she has put on a few pounds from the photos but honestly, I think it's for the better. She's not fat or chubby just to clarify.
She arrived right on time at my outcall dressed in a classy red and black dress. Once in the room and pleasantries out of the way, I gave her the donation and she went to freshen up and shower. She came out a few moments later wrapped in nothing but a bath towel and joined me in bed. She immediately grabbed me and began DFK which really surprised me--Korean girls don't seem to be into it much so it was definitely a pleasant surprise. Off came her towel and I was able to enjoy her perfect skin and feel all her curves. She moved down and gave an average BBBJ, nothing to write home about in particular. There was plenty of licking and ball sucking though which was a nice touch. Afterwards, on went the cover and we began in CG. This is where I must point out that she has absolutely the tightest pussy I've experienced in this hobby. I'm not exactly packing a girth monster or a 9-inch danger but holy shit I was shocked by how much of a struggle it was to get in initially. There was clearly some pain initially but after going at it slowly for several minutes, she loosened up a tad and we were able to commence the fucking in earnest.
Jace was very vocal throughout the whole session and was also one of the best movers I've experienced. She knew exactly how to move her body depending on the situation which not only provides good visuals but makes it feel better too. We ran through CG, mish, doggy, lazy dog, sideways, standing mish you name it. After half an hour, it got way too hot and we were covered in sweat and so I decided to take a break. I asked if CIM finish later was OK and she said absolutely which was one of the big reasons I picked her.
After a quick 5 minute break, we were back to annoying our neighbors. After about 50 minutes into the hour session, I pulled out and she proceeded to give a BBBJ that was much better than the first. Very sloppy w / good use of hands and I cummed hard in her mouth and she took it all no problem with not a complaint. She kept sucking after which is the correct way to do things, no ifs and or buts. I let her go rinse off and presumably spit and with that, our hour was over.
She never once looked at the clock, I was the one keeping track. Jace was an absolute sweetheart and I wish I could see her again before I leave. I would have to give her performance a 9/10, face 7/10 body 8/10. I highly recommend her, best mongering experience I've had in Seoul even if she is a little pricier. If I had to do it all over again, I would see Jace a couple times and stick to cheonho RLD for the budget whambam thank you sessions. She quoted $230 USD or 250 k won, so be prepared.
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Anyone try the girls advertising on various dating applications? Obviously, the ones who want a deposit beforehand are a scam but I'm curious if anyone has any experience with ones who don't want a deposit.
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FYI the international side of BP is gone now.
Know of any sites that they advertise now?
In talks with someone named Vivian before BP was taken down. Anybody have any experiences with her?
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Never ending story
Hello everybody,
Long time did not post anything here.
Since my last post I had some new experience and of course feel like I should share.
For some period of time I can hold myself for a month or so, but sometimes just go nuts and try to meet girls 2-3 times per week.
MVP-VIP:
Since almost all of us were there, there is nothing much I can add.
Was there for around 4 times, 3 times with Chinese girl Tae-hee and one time when she was busy asked for Korean girl (name is En-too).
Korean girl was after hard surgery and didn't have nice body (it just looked pretty old for her age).
All in all, best service for its money. However atmosphere there is pretty depressing, especially thinking of that girls there work in those small rooms for 14 hours.
So currently I stopped visiting them.
VVIP Officetel:
I did contact them before, however at that time in the last moment my other provider confirmed the meeting so had to cancel officetel.
All communication were done via chat applications without any struggles. They knew I am not native Korean and were OK with that.
After that they were sending me from time to time whom they had and one day I decided to give a try.
Chosed cheapest option at 350 W (most expensive lots go there at price 1 mil. W.).
Arrangements were really easy, they sent me address, then guy picked me up on the first floor and took upstairs. I passed him money and he told me room number. Standard routine for officetels.
Girl inside was not the same as on the photos (basically from my experience you will never get what you see on photos).
However she was really cute and young. Overall I would give her 8/10 easily, as she had cute face, slim body with very nice trunk.
After I came out of the shower, she was sitting on the couch in another nice open dress. Not sure if she was newbie or its just per personality, however ice did not break between us and I decided to move.
Her to a bed. Somewhere in the middle of action I realized that I am banging her and she has zero emotions. Literally I could feel how I was doing her from behind and she was checking her nails, which never happened to me before. I don't know why, but it made me really horny and I continued banging her on a x 2 speed and rage.
Plus her BJ was really good. But short. But good.
Overall. No GFE at all, but it was my one of the best experience. I guess this is the time, when her looks overwrites her behavior.
Does she cost 350 W? Comparing to BP girls at 250 W. Yes. In general. Hard to say.
Rachael Park from BP:
Actively advertised on BP with video provals and other attractions. I couldn't pass her and of course it's a bait and switch.
She is definitely shorter, does not have model shape and her face would be 6/10. Overall not too bad, I just had higher expectations.
Business: Nothing special again. Actions: 7.5/10. Sucking wasn't bad, ball licking, even got some AR.
Independent Ye-bin:
Shortly: she is short and not-slim at all. Very new to this biz and most probably independent. You will have to talk with her for 30 mins about birds, weather, countries whatever it is.
I canceled meeting after some time because of "misunderstanding" of my requests before.
She is a nice, warm person though.
Was in Busan two times for couple of days and could not use chance to try Busan girls:
1. Searched in BP and found "Minji" - looks ugly but sucks well. Interesting thing is that other escorts asked me 300 $ so I had to go with her. Nothing special and couldn't cum.
2. Independent dancer from BP. This is second time when I got actual photo of the girl. She did send me her actual photo. Nice girl, totally worth the money. Not sure if she is a dancer, because I didn't feel like dancing.
Looks: slim, pretty, I would say 7/10 and friendly. Actions: all in all 7.5/10.
3. Got caught during holidays and all the girls from BP have not replied. Through ultimate struggle found some old ads in "google pictures" (that's how I was desperate) of the officetel. After long negotiation of bombing Syria or not, they finally agreed to bring me the girl. 200 for 40 mins. Face was pretty (after surgery) but damn she had fat above the hips. Hard to explain but looks awful. I am not sure if she knows that its not good and she should do something about it. Looks: 6/10 (pretty face, bad body). Action: honestly I don't remember. 5/10 I guess. Could not cum.
4. KTV: 350,000 per person including whiskey, snacks, drinks, motel room for couple of hours and girl. Came there with friend of mine. Got whisky, fruits and non-alco drinks. Was not hard to book over the phone. Place was a shit hole, with shitty rooms, shitty floor and shitty elevators.
All workers were wearing suits, like it was some Gatsby party in ghetto. Person in charge said that there "shortage" of girls, but they will do "their best".
First "their best" came into the room after 10 mins. Tall, plain face, from Korean view more on a fatter side. We both refused, then our manager said that it's better to take her, since next girl can be available after an hour. So next "their best" came in after like 20-30 mins, short, slim but with prettier face. We agreed and both of them joined us. Started pouring us drinks and talking. My friend knew three words in Korean (one swearing, one adjective and one name of the food). Conversation obviously was falling apart. I asked girls to talk between each other, while we could talk with my friend.
It's ended that they talked with each other for 2 mins about eye lashes. That's all.
Out of nowhere one girl said "Lip service! Turned on K-Pop music and each girl started taking off our pants. I wasn't trying to look at my friend to avoid gayness situation.
LIP SERVICE continued for 10 second (10% I am still curious why the hell it was needed for?
After bottle of whiskey was coming to the end and kinda starting liking my friends girl sitting in front of me (I got the girl from whom we refused at first). After making sure my friend doesn't mind, I asked them to exchange before we go to motel for boom-boom time. Girls refused as they already gave LIP SERVICE (My girls moral was already low, but after my request I think she started thinking about changing her job completely. In the motel I honestly tried, however after 10-15 minutes of her terrible BJ, trying to ride me. I just gave up and told her that she is free to go.
My usual provider:
Got really tired of rushing during 1 hour session, so decided to go with my girl for 2 hours and it feels great. No rush, discounted price, you have time to fool around and so on. But obviously it's only in case you "clicked".
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[QUOTE=Hekkk;2038909]Hello everybody,
Long time did not post anything here.
Since my last post I had some new experience and of course feel like I should share.
For some period of time I can hold myself for a month or so, but sometimes just go nuts and try to meet girls 2-3 times per week.
MVP-VIP:
Since almost all of us were there, there is nothing much I can add.
Was there for around 4 times, 3 times with Chinese girl Tae-hee and one time when she was busy asked for Korean girl (name is En-too).
Korean girl was after hard surgery and didn't have nice body (it just looked pretty old for her age).
All in all, best service for its money. However atmosphere there is pretty depressing, especially thinking of that girls there work in those small rooms for 14 hours.
So currently I stopped visiting them.
VVIP Officetel:
I did contact them before, however at that time in the last moment my other provider confirmed the meeting so had to cancel officetel.
All communication were done via chat applications without any struggles. They knew I am not native Korean and were OK with that.
After that they were sending me from time to time whom they had and one day I decided to give a try.
Chosed cheapest option at 350 W (most expensive lots go there at price 1 mil. W.).
Arrangements were really easy, they sent me address, then guy picked me up on the first floor and took upstairs. I passed him money and he told me room number. Standard routine for officetels.
Girl inside was not the same as on the photos (basically from my experience you will never get what you see on photos).
However she was really cute and young. Overall I would give her 8/10 easily, as she had cute face, slim body with very nice trunk.
After I came out of the shower, she was sitting on the couch in another nice open dress. Not sure if she was newbie or its just per personality, however ice did not break between us and I decided to move.
Her to a bed. Somewhere in the middle of action I realized that I am banging her and she has zero emotions. Literally I could feel how I was doing her from behind and she was checking her nails, which never happened to me before. I don't know why, but it made me really horny and I continued banging her on a x 2 speed and rage.
Plus her BJ was really good. But short. But good.
Overall. No GFE at all, but it was my one of the best experience. I guess this is the time, when her looks overwrites her behavior.
Does she cost 350 W? Comparing to BP girls at 250 W. Yes. In general. Hard to say.
Rachael Park from BP:
Actively advertised on BP with video provals and other attractions. I couldn't pass her and of course it's a bait and switch.
She is definitely shorter, does not have model shape and her face would be 6/10. Overall not too bad, I just had higher expectations.
Business: Nothing special again. Actions: 7.5/10. Sucking wasn't bad, ball licking, even got some AR.
Independent Ye-bin:
Shortly: she is short and not-slim at all. Very new to this biz and most probably independent. You will have to talk with her for 30 mins about birds, weather, countries whatever it is.
I canceled meeting after some time because of "misunderstanding" of my requests before.
She is a nice, warm person though.
Was in Busan two times for couple of days and could not use chance to try Busan girls:
1. Searched in BP and found "Minji" - looks ugly but sucks well. Interesting thing is that other escorts asked me 300 $ so I had to go with her. Nothing special and couldn't cum.
2. Independent dancer from BP. This is second time when I got actual photo of the girl. She did send me her actual photo. Nice girl, totally worth the money. Not sure if she is a dancer, because I didn't feel like dancing.
Looks: slim, pretty, I would say 7/10 and friendly. Actions: all in all 7.5/10.
3. Got caught during holidays and all the girls from BP have not replied. Through ultimate struggle found some old ads in "google pictures" (that's how I was desperate) of the officetel. After long negotiation of bombing Syria or not, they finally agreed to bring me the girl. 200 for 40 mins. Face was pretty (after surgery) but damn she had fat above the hips. Hard to explain but looks awful. I am not sure if she knows that its not good and she should do something about it. Looks: 6/10 (pretty face, bad body). Action: honestly I don't remember. 5/10 I guess. Could not cum.
4. KTV: 350,000 per person including whiskey, snacks, drinks, motel room for couple of hours and girl. Came there with friend of mine. Got whisky, fruits and non-alco drinks. Was not hard to book over the phone. Place was a shit hole, with shitty rooms, shitty floor and shitty elevators.
All workers were wearing suits, like it was some Gatsby party in ghetto. Person in charge said that there "shortage" of girls, but they will do "their best".
First "their best" came into the room after 10 mins. Tall, plain face, from Korean view more on a fatter side. We both refused, then our manager said that it's better to take her, since next girl can be available after an hour. So next "their best" came in after like 20-30 mins, short, slim but with prettier face. We agreed and both of them joined us. Started pouring us drinks and talking. My friend knew three words in Korean (one swearing, one adjective and one name of the food). Conversation obviously was falling apart. I asked girls to talk between each other, while we could talk with my friend.
It's ended that they talked with each other for 2 mins about eye lashes. That's all.
Out of nowhere one girl said "Lip service! Turned on K-Pop music and each girl started taking off our pants. I wasn't trying to look at my friend to avoid gayness situation.
LIP SERVICE continued for 10 second (10% I am still curious why the hell it was needed for?
After bottle of whiskey was coming to the end and kinda starting liking my friends girl sitting in front of me (I got the girl from whom we refused at first). After making sure my friend doesn't mind, I asked them to exchange before we go to motel for boom-boom time. Girls refused as they already gave LIP SERVICE (My girls moral was already low, but after my request I think she started thinking about changing her job completely. In the motel I honestly tried, however after 10-15 minutes of her terrible BJ, trying to ride me. I just gave up and told her that she is free to go.
My usual provider:
Got really tired of rushing during 1 hour session, so decided to go with my girl for 2 hours and it feels great. No rush, discounted price, you have time to fool around and so on. But obviously it's only in case you "clicked".[/QUOTE]Seems like you broke the bank often for subpar services. Hope you enjoyed it all though.
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Sure about that?
[QUOTE=Misou;2038893]FYI the international side of BP is gone now.
Know of any sites that they advertise now?
In talks with someone named Vivian before BP was taken down. Anybody have any experiences with her?[/QUOTE]Umm. You sure about that? Just checked it and I'm looking at a bunch of ads for "independent" girls that all have the same format of advertising LOL.
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Miari Quickie
Visited the Miari district (exit 10 at Gireum station) and was initially confused at exit 10 from the subway due to a description of a 'curtain' pretty much straight ahead, covering the entrance to the seedy alleys. I say it is best to describe it as a curtain of knotted rope that only extends down so far, not a true full curtain per se, but anyway I eventually worked this out and began walking down the alley to feel disappointed very soon by a lack of activity in sight.
It was around 8:00 pm but was dead. Very soon I encountered mamasans sitting down outside but expressionless at my approach, not a good sign. One whom I enquired with, waved me away with annoyed expression. I'm fit and reasonably handsome but I know this means nothing. It's a simple matter of race (Caucasian) and what the Girls or Korean customers decide on this matter, so yes.
Now, I forgot what I had read that the further you go into this warren the lower the quality of the Girls, but simultaneously mamasans were obviously more eager to get me in for the relative leftovers there.
Everywhere was quoting 100,000 but I wasn't prepared to pay that money for a short time bonk when I can get four CIM BBBJ in Star of Light in Bangkok with enthusiastic rimming included, so I went to Miari with a ceiling in mind which I wouldn't be upsold over, even on the off chance of a cutie being available. 80,000 was my maximum.
I know foreigners pay hugely more for paid sex in Korea but numerous reports sound like a spectacularly expensive mediocre time to me. If I was going to be disappointed I wanted to ensure it wasn't accompanied by losing a bunch of traveling cash while in Korea, which could be used in Thailand again later.
Loud yabbering and arm grabbing from mamasan was rapidly irritating me while I was using Google Translate to arrange the conditions. I'm not Korean and I'll move when I'm ready, once a fair deal has been arranged first.
Long story short, I got this for 70,000 and luckily so as the Women on offer were so so. I would say they were mostly mid 30's. I chose one and we went upstairs to a pokey dark little room. It was a mechanical affair from her but she automatically gave BBBJ which was certainly welcome but it lacked variation and got boring soon enough.
One savings grace of this quickie was that BBFS happened naturally and she took it like a champ in missionary, clenching her snatch tight around me and for the finish she was flipped over and vigorously rooted from behind before taking my considerable load into her Korean Pussy. Bliss!
Rejection by several mamasan is a frustrating experience to voluntarily subject yourself to, knowing it is likely that younger girls are probably in those other establishments but that's Korea for the general visitor. I didn't try anywhere else in Korea, though glimpsed several of the Barber pole joints in areas I stayed but the word always seemed to be about over the hill Women servicing you. Anyway, thanks for earlier information provided which made this happen in a country which isn't straightforward for foreigners passing through.
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Sorry, but it's too funny
[QUOTE=Duvet;2039365]...Very soon I encountered mamasans sitting down outside but expressionless at my approach, not a good sign. One whom I enquired with, waved me away with annoyed expression...Rejection by several mamasan is a frustrating experience to voluntarily subject yourself to...[/QUOTE]Sorry, but I could not help laughing hard as I was reading your post. Thanks for your honesty! I had the exact same experience in Bangkok, Thermae disco. It was not a mamasan waving me off with an annoyed expression, but pretty Thai girls waiting for Japanese / Korean / Chinese customers. It was frustrating for me given that I had scored big in earlier attempts. I ended putting a cross on that name and never went back.
As for Korean WGs, they are my favorite. However, I would never dare look for them in Korea, too difficult and frustrating. Instead, they come by the plane load here in the US and their attitude is so much better, and no annoying mamasan to deal with. I visited Seoul last year, but I was with a WG whom I met in the US, so I was well taken care of. I was tempted to try my luck there but I did not get the opportunity.
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First trip to Seoul
Hey guys,
Thanks to all you guys for your previous posts. I'm making my first trip, 30 HR stopover really, in Seoul in June and was hoping for some pointers and recommendations. Visiting an officetel near the colleges sounds really intriguing though maybe challenging as well. I'm Chinese-American and can't speak any Korean other than food LOL. Or if anyone wants to grab drinks and give me a tour of some of these establishments that would be cool too! PM me if anyone is interested or has recommendations. I'll be there June 10-11.
Thanks!
GG.
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[QUOTE=Lefeu;2039447]However, I would never dare look for them in Korea, too difficult and frustrating. Instead, they come by the plane load here in the US and their attitude is so much better.... .[/QUOTE]Outside the country they do seem different, and wouldn't be the only nationality to be so. Once I left Korea, suddenly they were very open to me, but in Korea, personally I never felt more totally ignored by the everyday Women there compared to everywhere else in Asia that I've been (almost all of it). Sure, friendly helpful encounters with them in connection with hotels and other sectors, but otherwise they did a fine job of negating my very existence, more engrossed in their mirrors or smartphones. None of the playfulness of the Japanese Girls. Now I even have two Korean contacts on Line app who were met outside the country, but domestically my time in Korea was largely spent with the Men who were great and very hospitable. Bros before Hoes! I did see Westerners with Korean Girls out and about, but am willing to bet they were working / studying in Korea in some capacity, to have the time to slowly build a relationship. All Korea Males (especially the young) were always telling me they'd recently broken up with Girlfriends because of how difficult and demanding they were. The facial features of Korean Women does little for me but I concede that some had great physiques capable of being able to handle it deep and rough.
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Soapland experience
Where can I get a soapland experience in Seoul? I would prefer south west Seoul (think Guro area) but will travel for it. By soapland experience, I mean washing you with their body, and preferably at least 2 shots. Price doesn't matter.
Thanks guys.
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Incheon 9 hour layover
Hello guys, can someone give me an info here? I hve 9 hour layover and I would like to do a quickie. Where is the best place to go? Thanks guys.
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[QUOTE=SpideyLennon;2040462]Hello guys, can someone give me an info here? I hve 9 hour layover and I would like to do a quickie. Where is the best place to go? Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]There is a town about 5 min drive away, can get a meal and there are a few massage joints.
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[QUOTE=BeijingGuy1;2040352]Where can I get a soapland experience in Seoul? I would prefer south west Seoul (think Guro area) but will travel for it. By soapland experience, I mean washing you with their body, and preferably at least 2 shots. Price doesn't matter.
Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]What you are looking for doesn't exist.
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[QUOTE=SpideyLennon;2040462]Hello guys, can someone give me an info here? I hve 9 hour layover and I would like to do a quickie. Where is the best place to go? Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]RTFF. Go back a few pages and you will find all the info you need.
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My First BP Experience
Hello,
I thought I would post this. I've done the massage thing (MVP, Jinju, BBS) and the hill. My GF was out of town (a middle aged ajumma same age as me) that loves sex just as much as me. I've been with her a long time and I like to have someone new / different every once and awhile. I make it a point to avoid BP because of all the stories about bad service, waste of time, fake photos and high price and all the girls on there are young. I like mature ladies. I saw a post about a 32-year-old independent with blurry pictures and I sent an email and asked her how it works (she only does outcalls). She said she can meet at a motel and I asked if we could meet outside of the motel and go in together, she said okay. I told her the location and to meet at 1 pm. At about 12:55 pm she sent a message saying that she would be about 15 minutes late and was very apologetic, but she showed up about 25 minutes late and when we meet she expressed how sorry she was. I was not upset because she looked good and I think she really did mean to be on time and her apologies seem sincere. She looked older than 32 and I asked her if she was 32 and she said she was 34. I think Korean women age very well and I have seen / known a lot of Korean women at work and other places that are in there mid to late 40's that I would've guessed that they were in their early 30's. I think she is really in her late 30's at a least. I'm okay with that because I'm in my mid 40's and I like older women (check my PI reports). I also asked if she was Korean because she looked a little Chinese, she said she was Korean (maybe it was the way she wore her makeup) Okay, now the good stuff. We went to a love motel I use a lot with my GF (I can't bring women to my apartment and I think you can figure out why) and paid the 25 K and went to the room. She speaks English very well and we talked a little bit about each other and then she said that she was going to take a shower. After her quick shower, she came out with some very sexy lingerie and her body was very nice, not skinny, but fit in a MILF kind of way. I took a quick shower and came out and we both got on the bed. She was very GFE with soft touching as we made small talk. She played with my tackle and went down for an okay BJ. She didn't mind kissing but no Frenching. She was okay with DATY and was nearly clean shaven. On came the cover and stated in CG then mish and finished in K9. I finished rather quickly, as she has a nice firm round ass. Her skills were slightly mechanical and she didn't really seem into it (looked a little bored), but she is a WG and not a GF. After we finished, we laid there talking as she took care of the cover. She showered and then me. When I came out of the shower, she was getting dressed. We still had a little more time (1 hour) and I still had one more in me and I asked for a BJ. She was okay with that and got a BJ / HJ. I cleaned up again and got dressed.
She didn't ask for the 200 K donation the whole time there. Before the second pop, I asked how much it would be for two hours and she had to think about it a little and said 370 K (but I think she would have gone lower). I gave her 250 K and said here is a little extra for going overtime, but I also reminder her she was late. She laughed and said "you're right, I was late" and gave me the 50 K back. I asked her why her ad says she don't service Korean or Asian men, and she said she is worried it might be police. We left the motel and went our separate ways.
Overall, she was fine with all my requests, but I didn't ask about CIM, COB, BBFS and others. She was very nice and we did have a good conversation about various things, she just seemed a little cold in the sack. I will repeat and maybe she will warm up a little the next time or maybe she was just a little tired.
Remember, these scores are based on the fact that I prefer older women.
Face: 7.
Body: 8.
Service: 7.
Attitude: 9.
LM.
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Kiss bang?
Hi All- Will be in Seoul for 1st time. Have read the last year of reports. Many thanks to everyone and to Jackson. But am aware these things change super fast. Have found info for kiss bangs in Hongdae, Sillim and Sadang. Anyone can confirm which KB is now open and can take non-Korean speaking foreigner?
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Venezulean
So I walked up to the hill today just after lunch and wasn't really expecting anyone to be out, but I was curious about how many of the shops are closing up.
A few girls tried to wave me in but I wasn't interested. But at the top of the Hill and around the corner to the right, I was shocked to see a seriously stacked Latina girl come out in the hottest, tightest black club dress. I jumped in there immediately.
So I wasn't really feeling the urge, but I could not turn this down. She said her name is Ruby and she was pretty friendly, good at English, BUT she tried some serious upselling. 200,000 for "everything" (though I didn't know how short it was going to be) I said no way, I just have 100,000 and she agreed.
My brain wasn't functioning that early and I just couldn't really haggle or work on chemistry. She insisted on CBJ. But I guess a lot of girls do these days. (I remember in the past that BBBJ was standard stuff among all girls). Anyways, if you can agree on a fair price and work on her a little, this girl is worth it alone for the novelty. I mean, she is hot as hell and she has the real deal Latina ass and legs.
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My Time Thus Far
Okay, so I've been in Korea now for the past 3 months for a project and it definitely took me awhile, but I think I got the hang of it. It took a lot of research (thanks to everyone here), but I managed to get a general understanding of it works.
On BP there's a handful of agencies that offer kgirl experience outcalls. About $220. In Korean won, it's about 250 K. Only issue is that it's one shot per hour If you're nice to the booker, they'll usually give you the okay for an another shot for a little extra. If you're a one shot guy, then it's all good. Great thing is that you can negotiate pricing there. Just don't be an ass about it. So it's about the same price as the States, but easier to negotiate. I usually stick with the agencies that at least have a website. Granted, the pics are either really photoshopped or "close to the girl," but nonetheless the girls were still very pretty. Because I can't do incall, I was told of a short stay hotel in Itaewon: 30 K for 3 hours and for 1 K they give you a nice kit (lube, a few covers, toothbrush / paste). One agency also acted as referral service as well: for around 350 K won, they'll take you to a traditional nuru massage salon with guaranteed GFE (one shot of course, but negotiate and you should be fine). ALL of the agencies have the strip salon experience as well: private car picks you up, takes you to a strip salon where you pick a girl from fish tank, you go to karaoke room with unlimited whiskey and snacks, mess around there for about an hour (no sex, but really depends on the girl and chemistry), and then you go to love hotel next door for another hour. Afterwards, private car takes you back. Agency prices all differ. Range from $500-650, all negotiable. I haven't done the strip salon, but I might someday just for the hell of it.
For those of you that are Korean or 교54252; and have a good grasp of the Korean language, I present to you [URL]www.adal4.com[/URL]. This is almost every listing of anmas, strip salon, kiss 방, oficetel, etc. It's all Korean, but not too difficult once Google Translate comes into play. Once you see the prices of the oficetel girls and strip salons, you'll see how badly foreigners are getting the tourist prices. Almost double the usual prices. Now granted, not all of the oficetel girls will be GFE, but from what I've seen so far and from what others have told me, this is where kgirl academy supposedly begins.
I'm still learning the ropes here and making some nice contacts. Anyone know of other directory / review sites like adal?
I have yet to try a kiss 방 or the strip salon. Has anyone tried the strip salon before? I tried searching here but I can't come up with anything. The kiss 방 seems to be a ymmv and chemistry thing. I'll give it a try some day. If you're Korean or at least have a good understanding, I definitely recommend adal4.
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A few Latinas on BP
[QUOTE=Ready81;2043008]But at the top of the Hill and around the corner to the right, I was shocked to see a seriously stacked Latina girl come out in the hottest, tightest black club dress. I jumped in there immediately.
So I wasn't really feeling the urge, but I could not turn this down. She said her name is Ruby and she was pretty friendly, good at English, BUT she tried some serious upselling. 200,000 for "everything" (though I didn't know how short it was going to be) I said no way, I just have 100,000 and she agreed.
My brain wasn't functioning that early and I just couldn't really haggle or work on chemistry. She insisted on CBJ. But I guess a lot of girls do these days. (I remember in the past that BBBJ was standard stuff among all girls). Anyways, if you can agree on a fair price and work on her a little, this girl is worth it alone for the novelty. I mean, she is hot as hell and she has the real deal Latina ass and legs.[/QUOTE]I've been seeing these ads for awhile now. Any of them look familiar?
[URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/costa-rica-babes-rare-costa-babes-be-my-boyfriend-24-hours-wet-with-you/4729313[/URL]
[URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/i-am-slim-spanish-model-48kg-d-e-natural-cup-and-big-ass_body-model-821021426424/4930688[/URL]
[URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/latin-nikky-full-option-_no-rush-sexy-independent/4930603[/URL]
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[QUOTE=JamesKm1984;2043202]I've been seeing these ads for awhile now. Any of them look familiar?
[URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/costa-rica-babes-rare-costa-babes-be-my-boyfriend-24-hours-wet-with-you/4729313[/URL]
[URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/i-am-slim-spanish-model-48kg-d-e-natural-cup-and-big-ass_body-model-821021426424/4930688[/URL]
[URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/latin-nikky-full-option-_no-rush-sexy-independent/4930603[/URL][/QUOTE]Not the same girl I saw, but definitely similar face and body. 10 out of 10 for sure. But she knows she's a gem here (hence the name 'ruby' I guess. If you are prepared to spend a little extra I would definitely recommend for all the guys a bit bored of the skinny-framed and highly "modified" Korean girl.
And I am enticed by the backpage ads too. Backpage Korea is just always such a disappointment tho, so I can't force myself to do it.
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Backpage work around
For those having issues seeing backpack for Seoul. Work around is to view the mobile side, with a proxy.
Enjoy.
An another note, anybody have any experience with someone named sSiyoung?
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[QUOTE=Misou;2043434]For those having issues seeing backpack for Seoul. Work around is to view the mobile side, with a proxy.[/QUOTE]I noticed if I just type "[URL]backpage.com[/URL]" that sometimes it works, sometimes I get the dreaded censor page. However, if I add "www. " to the front of it, it works every time, both comp and mobile. It's really weird how the censorship works. Like if I go directly to [URL]xvideos.com[/URL], then I get the censor page. But if I go to google first and type "kianna Dior vids" (she's a favorite of mine), links for xvideos and other tube sites obviously come up in search. If I click on the link for xvideos, it works. Any IT experts know how that is?
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[QUOTE=Ready81;2043224]And I am enticed by the backpage ads too. Backpage Korea is just always such a disappointment tho, so I can't force myself to do it.[/QUOTE]I've generally stayed away from all the ads that claim to be independent. The one's that claim to be independent that I only pay attention to are the one's in which the girl is holding a card with her email address on it. And even then, that's a gamble. I've noticed that their prices and the prices for the agencies are about the same anyways, around $220 250 K and negotiable. Bohemiam has a good reputation on review sites, but they are a bit more expensive: 300 K $260 non-negotiable.
Hope this helps!
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[QUOTE=JamesKm1984;2043560]I noticed if I just type "[URL]backpage.com[/URL]" that sometimes it works, sometimes I get the dreaded censor page. However, if I add "www. " to the front of it, it works every time, both comp and mobile. It's really weird how the censorship works. Like if I go directly to [URL]xvideos.com[/URL], then I get the censor page. But if I go to google first and type "kianna Dior vids" (she's a favorite of mine), links for xvideos and other tube sites obviously come up in search. If I click on the link for xvideos, it works. Any IT experts know how that is?[/QUOTE]I know. That's why I use a proxy. Don't use a US proxy as it will redirect you to the US only side as soon as you click the agree part on any of the adult pages. If you do, it will keep taking you to that page, until you close the browser completely and open it back up.
Google search links don't link directly to the sites. It takes you to another page that you don't see and then redirects it to the site.
Rightclick the google link and then paste into the address bar. You'll see that the address is different then the actual address.
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[QUOTE=JamesKm1984;2043565]I've generally stayed away from all the ads that claim to be independent. The one's that claim to be independent that I only pay attention to are the one's in which the girl is holding a card with her email address on it. And even then, that's a gamble. I've noticed that their prices and the prices for the agencies are about the same anyways, around $220 250 K and negotiable. Bohemiam has a good reputation on review sites, but they are a bit more expensive: 300 K $260 non-negotiable.
Hope this helps![/QUOTE]There are a few agencies that don't disappoint. My best experience was probably with Aqua. Bohemian just pulls too many sneaky moves for me to justify their price. I mean 300,000 won for some " innocent girl" who acts like she's never had sex before and sudden price increases for supposedly "premium girls" being the only ones available. That's just too "Korea Style". I believe their reviews are to a large extent fake as well. Let's just say my experiences with them were *very* different than those first 10 reviews that popped up on ***. I guess it might be worth it though if people really just want to meet a moderately attractive Korean girl.
I have my doubts about the phone-number / email photo girls. Everyone is doing it these days, so it sets off alarms.
It really brings me to my old gripe about those. Why is almost every single ad on there the same? Same prices, same style, same fake photos, same bullshit sales pitch. No one tries to differentiate themselves in any way to get our money. Just gouge on price and get out of town seems to be the only strategy they know. I guess it works here.
The Venezuelan girl in Itaewon was 10 x better than any backpage girl I ever had.
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[QUOTE=Ready81;2043583]There are a few agencies that don't disappoint. My best experience was probably with Aqua. Bohemian just pulls too many sneaky moves for me to justify their price. I mean 300,000 won for some " innocent girl" who acts like she's never had sex before and sudden price increases for supposedly "premium girls" being the only ones available. That's just too "Korea Style". I believe their reviews are to a large extent fake as well. Let's just say my experiences with them were *very* different than those first 10 reviews that popped up on ***. I guess it might be worth it though if people really just want to meet a moderately attractive Korean girl.
I have my doubts about the phone-number / email photo girls. Everyone is doing it these days, so it sets off alarms.
It really brings me to my old gripe about those. Why is almost every single ad on there the same? Same prices, same style, same fake photos, same bullshit sales pitch. No one tries to differentiate themselves in any way to get our money. Just gouge on price and get out of town seems to be the only strategy they know. I guess it works here.
The Venezuelan girl in Itaewon was 10 x better than any backpage girl I ever had.[/QUOTE]Wow! Thanks for the heads up on Bohemian! Dodged a bullet. I'll definitely try Aqua. I definitely got to hit up that Latina in Itaewon. GFE?
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[QUOTE=JamesKm1984;2043674]Wow! Thanks for the heads up on Bohemian! Dodged a bullet. I'll definitely try Aqua. I definitely got to hit up that Latina in Itaewon. GFE?[/QUOTE]A few people swear by Bohemian, but I just think they are the best at the scam. The girls I had were cute, but not cuter than girls I've had at some other places. (though some agencies do the bait and switch, which Bohemian does not, to be fair).
Be careful about Aqua, as I think another Escort service has changed their name to Aqua as well. The one I am talking about has a huge natural boobed (yet slim) girl named JINAH. The photos they use of her on the website are real and the name she goes by appears to be real as well. Search something like "Seoul Escorts Jinah" and that will be the girl and the place. She had an extremely pretty face as well.
Venezuelan girl was friendly and spoke English well, which is already closer to genuine GFE than most K-girls here. The only issue with her is that I get the impression that she is very popular and knows it, so that may push her to rush. But I think Itaewon is probably the closest the genuine GFE in Korea. I think the Korean idea of GFE just does not translate to Westerners of any stripe. Korean guys seem to be attracted to girls who are coy, resist, and give off a kind of huffy (but supposedly "cute") attitude. The Itaewon girls seem to be the closest to "Westernized" in this sense. But then again, if you are in Korea, maybe you want to try Korea style. I am just annoyed by it after years.
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GFE is vey different here then:/
[QUOTE=Ready81;2043742]A few people swear by Bohemian, but I just think they are the best at the scam. The girls I had were cute, but not cuter than girls I've had at some other places. (though some agencies do the bait and switch, which Bohemian does not, to be fair).
Be careful about Aqua, as I think another Escort service has changed their name to Aqua as well. The one I am talking about has a huge natural boobed (yet slim) girl named JINAH. The photos they use of her on the website are real and the name she goes by appears to be real as well. Search something like "Seoul Escorts Jinah" and that will be the girl and the place. She had an extremely pretty face as well.
Venezuelan girl was friendly and spoke English well, which is already closer to genuine GFE than most K-girls here. The only issue with her is that I get the impression that she is very popular and knows it, so that may push her to rush. But I think Itaewon is probably the closest the genuine GFE in Korea. I think the Korean idea of GFE just does not translate to Westerners of any stripe. Korean guys seem to be attracted to girls who are coy, resist, and give off a kind of huffy (but supposedly "cute") attitude. The Itaewon girls seem to be the closest to "Westernized" in this sense. But then again, if you are in Korea, maybe you want to try Korea style. I am just annoyed by it after years.[/QUOTE]Yeah. I guess my definition of GFE is more westernized and based more on a set of particular services (DFK, DATY, BBBJ, MSOG at the minimum). And I guess there definitely is an expectation of having a kgirl experience like those found in the States. I guess that's what I'm looking for.
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[QUOTE=Ready81;2043583]There are a few agencies that don't disappoint. My best experience was probably with Aqua. Bohemian just pulls too many sneaky moves for me to justify their price. I mean 300,000 won for some " innocent girl" who acts like she's never had sex before and sudden price increases for supposedly "premium girls" being the only ones available. That's just too "Korea Style". I believe their reviews are to a large extent fake as well. Let's just say my experiences with them were *very* different than those first 10 reviews that popped up on ***. I guess it might be worth it though if people really just want to meet a moderately attractive Korean girl.
I have my doubts about the phone-number / email photo girls. Everyone is doing it these days, so it sets off alarms.
It really brings me to my old gripe about those. Why is almost every single ad on there the same? Same prices, same style, same fake photos, same bullshit sales pitch. No one tries to differentiate themselves in any way to get our money. Just gouge on price and get out of town seems to be the only strategy they know. I guess it works here.
The Venezuelan girl in Itaewon was 10 x better than any backpage girl I ever had.[/QUOTE]Would you mind providing the weblinks to the agencies you're referring to?
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[QUOTE=LGuy1;2044468]Would you mind providing the weblinks to the agencies you're referring to?[/QUOTE]It's not allowed, but just do a google search for the names mentioned.
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[QUOTE=TheGuy;2042987]Hi All- Will be in Seoul for 1st time. Have read the last year of reports. Many thanks to everyone and to Jackson. But am aware these things change super fast. Have found info for kiss bangs in Hongdae, Sillim and Sadang. Anyone can confirm which KB is now open and can take non-Korean speaking foreigner?[/QUOTE]Hi,
Hope it's not too late. The Kiss Bang in Hongdae is open. Was there 2 times, both girls were a bit fatter than Korean average but looked OK otherwise (not great). None of them spoke English, but the first girl seemed very friendly and I enjoyed it. The second time it was the pure hell. It seemed like she was just waiting until time is over. Kissing her felt like kissing a corpse. Her name was Mona. I will not go into that Kiss Bang again.
The Kiss Bang in Sadang seems to be a myth. Couldn't find it. It's not "right next to the one marked on a Google Kiss Bang map", like someone said here. If someone can confirm where it is, please do it with an exact address.
I also found a Kiss Bang a bit south of Sungnyemun Gate (randomly walked by) but don't go in there. Seems like they don't take foreigners. Does anyone know why some places don't take foreigners?
And what do you mean with the Kiss Bang at Sillim?
Best regards.
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[QUOTE=TheCollector;2045014]Hi,
Hope it's not too late. The Kiss Bang in Hongdae is open. Was there 2 times, both girls were a bit fatter than Korean average but looked OK otherwise (not great). None of them spoke English, but the first girl seemed very friendly and I enjoyed it. The second time it was the pure hell. It seemed like she was just waiting until time is over. Kissing her felt like kissing a corpse. Her name was Mona. I will not go into that Kiss Bang again.
The Kiss Bang in Sadang seems to be a myth. Couldn't find it. It's not "right next to the one marked on a Google Kiss Bang map", like someone said here. If someone can confirm where it is, please do it with an exact address.
I also found a Kiss Bang a bit south of Sungnyemun Gate (randomly walked by) but don't go in there. Seems like they don't take foreigners. Does anyone know why some places don't take foreigners?
And what do you mean with the Kiss Bang at Sillim?
Best regards.[/QUOTE]There are 2 kiss bangs in Sadang:
Sadang To You Healing: Exit 4, step out, building is between the Dunkin Donut and the Paris Baguette. 4th floor. Exact Number is 1061-25. PH: 010-7349-7179.
Seven: Exit 10, about a 1 minute walk. No more details given in their ad. PH: 02-583-3345.
From what I read, both places require appointments. I'm sure once you set up an appointment, they'll give you the exact location.
And there are 2 in Silim:
JJok JJok JJok: Exit 3, 1 minute walk. It's past the C U Mini Mart. 010-5825-1270.
Mirror K: no address, direction given. 010-9393-4104.
Hope this helps!
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At Jameskm1984.
Thanks, have you ever visited one of them?
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[QUOTE=TheCollector;2045468]At Jameskm1984.
Thanks, have you ever visited one of them?[/QUOTE]Nope, I haven't visited any of them. I've been curious about them though. Like if there's more to it than just making out, then I might check it out. If not, I might as well pay extra and go to an oficetel.
But from the ads I've seen for kiss bangs though, it seems like some places might offer more, but I think it depends on the girl and you have to make an appointment.
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[QUOTE=JamesKm1984;2045597]Nope, I haven't visited any of them. I've been curious about them though. Like if there's more to it than just making out, then I might check it out. If not, I might as well pay extra and go to an oficetel.
But from the ads I've seen for kiss bangs though, it seems like some places might offer more, but I think it depends on the girl and you have to make an appointment.[/QUOTE]I went to a few different KB's while I lived in Seoul. A lot of it is YMMV depending on the girl. I've had full on FS from some girls while others wouldn't even let me feel them up. If you like the challenge of fishing, KB's are fun, but if you want a sure thing, don't waste your time and just go to an Oficetel.
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Can I please trust Seoul Back pages
Hi guys,
I have been following the forum here and luckily traveling to Seoul for a week. Please assist in getting a safe experience. I am not into massage parlour or in calls. I prefer out calls. I have seen back pages, where there are tempting profiles. I have contacted few, they are ready to come anytime. As if there is no LE issue. Please advice on following:
1) can I trust back pages? Will I get the same girl? I saw one message that is the girl is holding a playcard in pic, she can be trusted. Please advice.
2) they are asking for 230 usd for 1 HR. That's Streep. What should the right price for a. Ack pages one?
3) is LE a big issue. I don't want any trouble.
4) if back pages I not an option. What are other options?
Please assist and advice.
All regards.
J.
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[QUOTE=NotherMonger;2045812]I went to a few different KB's while I lived in Seoul. A lot of it is YMMV depending on the girl. I've had full on FS from some girls while others wouldn't even let me feel them up. If you like the challenge of fishing, KB's are fun, but if you want a sure thing, don't waste your time and just go to an Oficetel.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot for clarifying!
Hmmm. Maybe I will check it out. On adal there's a bunch of ads for KB. Maybe I'll check one out.
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[QUOTE=JollyGood000;2046213]Hi guys,
I have been following the forum here and luckily traveling to Seoul for a week. Please assist in getting a safe experience. I am not into massage parlour or in calls. I prefer out calls. I have seen back pages, where there are tempting profiles. I have contacted few, they are ready to come anytime. As if there is no LE issue. Please advice on following:
1) can I trust back pages? Will I get the same girl? I saw one message that is the girl is holding a playcard in pic, she can be trusted. Please advice.
2) they are asking for 230 usd for 1 HR. That's Streep. What should the right price for a. Ack pages one?
3) is LE a big issue. I don't want any trouble.
4) if back pages I not an option. What are other options?
Please assist and advice.
All regards.
J.[/QUOTE]1) Don't trust BP. A lot of those girls that claim to be independent are part of an agency / referral service and more than likely the pics will be fake. I'm not sure about the one's that are holding cards with their email address in them. The ads that say they are an agency might be a bit more trustworthy, especially if they have their own website. There was a recently a discussion about which agencies are most dependable so just do a quick skim.
2) Just like any other country, if you're a tourist, you're going to get tourist prices. Just know that negotiating prices are okay, as long as you're not rude about it.
3) LE can care less. Just use common sense.
4) As a foreigner, BP and massage republic will be your best bet. I'm sure there's more for foreigners, but I don't know them. If you can speak / read / write in Korean, then I suggest [URL]adal4.com[/URL]. That's probably the most comprehensive website with regards to oficetels, anmas, kiss bangs, lip cafes, all the different types of salons, etc.
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Belle 2017
I made the mistake of going to Belle without checking the recent reviews here online (specifically ParkVille's). I came to Belle for the usual GFE I used to get last year, and all I got was an OK massage and a handjob for 120 k. I should've been wary once they said their pricing changed.
Avoid at all costs. Our money is better spent literally anywhere else in Seoul.
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Tried the Same BP Lady Again
In my last report I talked about my first BP experience and I contacted the same girl today (Sunday). I asked if she was available to meet at 2 PM at the same location and she said okay. This time she arrived about 10 minutes early and we went to the love motel I use a lot with my GF. She said that she was out with her sister when I contacted her and she came to meet. She is very nice with small talk and her English is good. Inside the room we made more small talk and she asked if we could shower together and I said okay. We washed up a little but didn't touch very much. We went to the bed and made small talk as we touched each other and she started with a BBBJ, she is not very committed to the act and she kept wiping the pre-cum off. She must be worried about semen or something. We started to go for a sideways 69 and I noticed she had a strong odor. I failed to say in my first report that she did have a very very slight odor but in a good way. This time it was bad. I didn't even attempt to kiss it but my fingers stunk. I told her to put on the cover and she did. We did try different moves but she was very dry and she asked if I had lube, I said you should have it, I brought my own covers. She had some and I don't know what it was but it was not very good. I did finish in K9 and I rested and she took care of the cover. She said we still have some time left and asked if I wanted a massage or a HJ. I opted the HJ, the lube sucked but I did manage to pop again.
Final thoughts, she has a good personally, prompt and truly independent. However, the smell was a real turnoff and she is still a little cold in the sack. She is very accommodating for what ever you want and does want you to have a good time. Maybe she just doesn't know what she's doing. She really worked the HJ and never complains about anything.
I don't think I'll repeat, but who know. Maybe I should have told her about the odor and she would know to fix it, or maybe I caught her off guard as she was out on the town.
Has anyone tried her before? She goes by Yumi on BP and the age is 32. Her add always say, "Glad to have caught your attention". I'm sure she is older than 32.
Give me some feed back.
LM, Out.
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Hey fellas,
Going to be in Seoul in a couple of weeks, wondering if anyone can confirm if the rumours are true about the RLD. I've RTFF for about 10 pages, and other sites, and it seems some people have visited these places lately:
Hooker Hill. Still fully functional and operational. Best bet.
Cheonho. Being phased out, but still operational.
588/ Cheongnyangni / Dongdaemun-gu. Completely gone?
Miari Texas. Some remnants left?
Times Square / YDP. Some remnants left?
Gangnam-daero. Still fully functional and operational. Lots of anmas / massage places / etc.
Thanks for any help bros. Will write full field reports after.
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[QUOTE=ThomKatt;2049982]Hey fellas,
Going to be in Seoul in a couple of weeks, wondering if anyone can confirm if the rumours are true about the RLD. I've RTFF for about 10 pages, and other sites, and it seems some people have visited these places lately... (SNIP)[/QUOTE]I'm now back in Seoul, this time for 2 months.
I was at Cheonho last Friday (around 10:30 pm). I don't know if it is really being phased out. It didn't look like that there were fewer shops open than, say, last year.
I was also at Miari on Sunday (also around 10:30 pm). I noticed that some shops now have these metal doors in front with those key combination locks. Everything is still blacked out. Whether there are fewer shops open than last year I don't know.
As far as I know, 588 is gone. Never been to Hooker Hill or YDP. I've only been to an anma twice, both in Gangnam, but that was years ago.
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Rows in Cheonho and Miari?
A number of previous posts mention the different rows in Cheonho and Miari. I've attached (again) maps of the two RLDs from screenshots I made.
1) For Cheonho, am I correct to say that the green line is the A-row, the cyan line is the be-row, and the magenta line is the see-row? Someone also mentioned a T-row. Where would that be?
2) For Miari, again, is the A-row the line in green?
Compared to Cheonho, I haven't been to Miari a whole lot. I haven't been able to find the better-looking girls at Miari so far. I just need to go more often. Anyone been to Miari very recently and found better-looking girls?
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[QUOTE=YeongIl;2050303]I'm now back in Seoul, this time for 2 months.
I was at Cheonho last Friday (around 10:30 pm). I don't know if it is really being phased out. It didn't look like that there were fewer shops open than, say, last year.
I was also at Miari on Sunday (also around 10:30 pm). I noticed that some shops now have these metal doors in front with those key combination locks. Everything is still blacked out. Whether there are fewer shops open than last year I don't know.
As far as I know, 588 is gone. Never been to Hooker Hill or YDP. I've only been to an anma twice, both in Gangnam, but that was years ago.[/QUOTE]So everything is worth a visit except for the 588 area? I'm not comparing it to last year, as this is my first trip ever, so if it's still exists, then I will go there at night.
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[QUOTE=ThomKatt;2050379]So everything is worth a visit except for the 588 area? I'm not comparing it to last year, as this is my first trip ever, so if it's still exists, then I will go there at night.[/QUOTE]Doesn't sound like YDP is worth it either. ShimShimHeyo wrote about it in March:
[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2011281]YDP RLD has dwindled to almost nothing. I would not make a special trip out to that area as when I was there about a month ago, about 3/4 of the shops were not in operation and I went on a Friday at 11 pm-ish. However, the RLD is right next to the Times Square Mall. If you're there for a movie or something it's worth taking a look.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=YeongIl;2051539]Doesn't sound like YDP is worth it either. ShimShimHeyo wrote about it in March:[/QUOTE]I'll be sort of in the area though. For all others, if I have the time or get the chance, I'll just quickly stroll by. Be worth it to give everyone here a definitive and detailed report about the current situation. Doesn't seem like the RLDs are talked about much in these forums though.
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Seoul hotel visit
Hello all,
I'm looking for a hotel in-call over the coming weekend. I'll be in Seoul just 4 nights so looking for something pretty (k pop would be ideal) and quick with a visit to my hotel room. Any advice, E. G. Specific Hotel bars on where I could meet such a girl would be great. I'm not new to this site (based in Mongolia, happy to help there) but I've just realised my account fee period has run out so can't take PMs (I'm not able to re register at the moment). I'm not keen on RD or street stuff but just looking for fun for the few days I'm there. Willing to pay for a good experience. I'm also keen to hear of any decent strip clubs although from what I can gather these are hard to find.
As always any help you guys can provide is greatly appreciated and as I said I'm happy to help anyone coming to Mongolia!
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Update
[QUOTE=LunchMeat;2049470]In my last report I talked about my first BP experience and I contacted the same girl today (Sunday). I asked if she was available to meet at 2 PM at the same location and she said okay. This time she arrived about 10 minutes early and we went to the love motel I use a lot with my GF. She said that she was out with her sister when I contacted her and she came to meet. She is very nice with small talk and her English is good. Inside the room we made more small talk and she asked if we could shower together and I said okay. We washed up a little but didn't touch very much. We went to the bed and made small talk as we touched each other and she started with a BBBJ, she is not very committed to the act and she kept wiping the pre-cum off. She must be worried about semen or something. We started to go for a sideways 69 and I noticed she had a strong odor. I failed to say in my first report that she did have a very very slight odor but in a good way. This time it was bad. I didn't even attempt to kiss it but my fingers stunk. I told her to put on the cover and she did. We did try different moves but she was very dry and she asked if I had lube, I said you should have it, I brought my own covers. She had some and I don't know what it was but it was not very good. I did finish in K9 and I rested and she took care of the cover. She said we still have some time left and asked if I wanted a massage or a HJ. I opted the HJ, the lube sucked but I did manage to pop again..[/QUOTE]Just an update, I noticed shortly after I posted my report about the mature BP experience, this provider changed the tile to her add, age and email address but has the same pictures and message inside her post. I think she reads this forum and didn't like what I said about her stink box. LOL [URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/outcall-independent/3743926[/URL].
LM.
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[QUOTE=LunchMeat;2054593]Just an update, I noticed shortly after I posted my report about the mature BP experience, this provider changed the tile to her add, age and email address but has the same pictures and message inside her post. I think she reads this forum and didn't like what I said about her stink box. LOL [URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/outcall-independent/3743926[/URL].
LM.[/QUOTE]LOL.
But how much did she charge you? She is below average looking in those pics. Def not worth 200+.
She looks like one of those singing room workers who they hire for male customers.
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14th to 19th
[QUOTE=LunchMeat;2054593]Just an update, I noticed shortly after I posted my report about the mature BP experience, this provider changed the tile to her add, age and email address but has the same pictures and message inside her post. I think she reads this forum and didn't like what I said about her stink box. LOL [URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/outcall-independent/3743926[/URL].
LM.[/QUOTE]She also put an ad on Massage Republic under nick Yumi. Will visit Seoul from 14th to 19th, maybe I will directly tell her about it.
JW.
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She's been advertising as Yumi for years, at least as far back as 2012. Age hasn't changed as well (quite common in the escort world LOL).
Indies do read these forums, and some mongerers tell them about this place as well maybe to try to get favors or extra discounts.
She's another one who was charging 150 just 3-4 years ago, and now charging 200-250.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;2054984]She's been advertising as Yumi for years, at least as far back as 2012. Age hasn't changed as well (quite common in the escort world LOL).
Indies do read these forums, and some mongerers tell them about this place as well maybe to try to get favors or extra discounts.
She's another one who was charging 150 just 3-4 years ago, and now charging 200-250.[/QUOTE]Yeah,
I see she's been in the game longer than I thought. I did pay the 200 k, like I said she's not that bad but she has her flaws. She's definitely not in her early 30's more like early 40's. When I first contacted her via email, she said she don't see Asian men.
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Jinju Massage
Arrived around 2245 hrs from a pouring rain on a Sunday night.
Choose an available shoe locker (with a key on the door) and locked my shoes in them. Paid the 130 k won the reception guy typed out on a calculator (gave him a blank look when spoken to in Korean) for a "massage and hand job". Was asked my locker number and proceeded to the holding area.
Was asked my locker number again by the holding area staff, and was directed to the shower area, just a short distance behind the holding area. Looked for the matching locker number and locked my stuff in there before taking a shower and changing into the provided 'robe'.
There were 4 guys before me waiting. Waited around afterwards before having my number called out maybe 25 minutes later. Was brought through the small maze of corridors to what seemed like the very last room. Not knowing what to do, I stripped bare and lay down on the table to wait. Waited maybe 5 minutes more before the massage lady arrived.
The slim, late 30's masseur knocked, and when she saw I was butt naked, appeared startled and asked my me to put on my pants while she waited outside the ajar door, while looking away. 😅 put on my pants, she came in and helped hang up my shirt. Proceeded to give a decent massage, first dry, then oil followed by a 'soft touch' gel massage. She spoke a little English, and she laughed when my stomach growled in hunger, telling me that her shop serves ramyun (Korean ramen) for a price. After maybe 30 minutes of back work and cleanup with tissues and a warm towels, I was asked to flip while she held up a towel to block my privates while she looked away. She proceeded to do the front body massage (10 minutes?) and then explained that there would be another girl to come in and provide a special massage for "men only, not for women. Men only". All this while massaging my groin under the towel. Cute how she can't look at your junk but can touch it. Probably 5 minutes in, the flashing red lights on her timer went off, signalling time's up for her segment.
We were joined shortly by the second lady. She was probably about about mid 20's, long hair and pretty. Massage lady handed the baton over to pretty lady and left the room. Young pretty lady pulled down her top to reveal a pair of beautiful (tho somewhat saggy) E cup fun pillows and proceeded to work on little john. Asked her permission to touch and she gave the OK, but gave a startling "No!" when I touched her nipples. Even got a second, equally startling "No!" when I accidently brushed against one a second time. Between that, the jackhammer technique and the 2 reminders about time and urging to hurry up, I am surprised I managed to finish seconds before the flashing red lights on their timer went off.
It's a wonder what a pair of big but soft funbags can do for me. Guess I am a big breast lover after all.
Cleaned up, robe up and was lead back through the corridors out to the waiting room. Showered and left the place, into a huge storm in the dark of the night.
Summary:
Damage: 130,000 KRW.
Part 1:
Age: Late 30's.
Looks: 7/10.
Massage: 7.5/10.
Part 2:
Age: Mid 20's.
Looks: 9/10.
Body: 9/10.
Technique: 5/10.
Attitude: 1/10.
KPS: 10/10.
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Yeongdeungpo RLD
On my way back from Jinju Massage to my hotel, I decided to swing by Yeongdeungpo RLD to do a quick recce for a sitrep for you guys.
Arrived at Yeongdeungpo RLD at 01300 hrs Sunday night.
Of the estimated 40 rooms there, maybe only 10 were closed (no lights) and maybe 8 or 9 girls busy (lights on, nobody).
Possibly due to the rains, most of the girls were out in force. Possibly 25-30 of them were there. A hand full were more interested in their phones than doing business, but a couple of them did wave me over.
Spotted a cute one, but didn't think mini me nor my wallet was up to another round this evening, so I walk regretfully onward.
Seems like the place is going strong, possibly stronger than when I was last here.
Maybe it's just the weather.
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[blue][Look, if you don't want to be the subject of drama then don't bring it. Talk about pussy and all will be well. I should probably just get rid of this account because obviously you didn't learn your lesson last time.
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Hugaetel in Nowon
Decided to try cold call a couple of the Hugaetels on adal. About 5 of them I called and was turned down. First thing I ask is "Can foreigners make an appointment?" in Korean. Finally one said yes. Its called Orange. They offer Thai and Korean girls with the Koreans slightly more expensive. 2 pops at 30 minutes a piece and a good 40 minute Thai massage for 170,000. The first girl was Thai. She spoke little Korean or English. But we weren't there for chatting. She was slender and spunky. Good first ride to get the jitters out. After that, the old lady came in for a massage. I thought it was pretty good. She spoke a little of Korean and English. Second girl was Korean and stunning. What she had in looks, she didn't have in personality though. It was a fun ride though.
I recommend the place. Look them up. They offer a couple "courses" and of course they will accept foreigners, but you must be able to speak a little Korean to navigate your way through the phone call and to the location.
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Looks like you got the foreignor ripoff. Normal service is CIMBBBJ.
Oh well next time you know.
[QUOTE=I1629;2055319]Arrived around 2245 hrs from a pouring rain on a Sunday night.
Choose an available shoe locker (with a key on the door) and locked my shoes in them. Paid the 130 k won the reception guy typed out on a calculator (gave him a blank look when spoken to in Korean) for a "massage and hand job". Was asked my locker number and proceeded to the holding area.
Was asked my locker number again by the holding area staff, and was directed to the shower area, just a short distance behind the holding area. Looked for the matching locker number and locked my stuff in there before taking a shower and changing into the provided 'robe'.
There were 4 guys before me waiting. Waited around afterwards before having my number called out maybe 25 minutes later. Was brought through the small maze of corridors to what seemed like the very last room. Not knowing what to do, I stripped bare and lay down on the table to wait. Waited maybe 5 minutes more before the massage lady arrived.
The slim, late 30's masseur knocked, and when she saw I was butt naked, appeared startled and asked my me to put on my pants while she waited outside the ajar door, while looking away. 😅 put on my pants, she came in and helped hang up my shirt. Proceeded to give a decent massage, first dry, then oil followed by a 'soft touch' gel massage. She spoke a little English, and she laughed when my stomach growled in hunger, telling me that her shop serves ramyun (Korean ramen) for a price. After maybe 30 minutes of back work and cleanup with tissues and a warm towels, I was asked to flip while she held up a towel to block my privates while she looked away. She proceeded to do the front body massage (10 minutes?) and then explained that there would be another girl to come in and provide a special massage for "men only, not for women. Men only". All this while massaging my groin under the towel. Cute how she can't look at your junk but can touch it. Probably 5 minutes in, the flashing red lights on her timer went off, signalling time's up for her segment.
We were joined shortly by the second lady. She was probably about about mid 20's, long hair and pretty. Massage lady handed the baton over to pretty lady and left the room. Young pretty lady pulled down her top to reveal a pair of beautiful (tho somewhat saggy) E cup fun pillows and proceeded to work on little john. Asked her permission to touch and she gave the OK, but gave a startling "No!" when I touched her nipples. Even got a second, equally startling "No!" when I accidently brushed against one a second time. Between that, the jackhammer technique and the 2 reminders about time and urging to hurry up, I am surprised I managed to finish seconds before the flashing red lights on their timer went off.
It's a wonder what a pair of big but soft funbags can do for me. Guess I am a big breast lover after all.
Cleaned up, robe up and was lead back through the corridors out to the waiting room. Showered and left the place, into a huge storm in the dark of the night.
Summary:
Damage: 130,000 KRW.
Part 1:
Age: Late 30's.
Looks: 7/10.
Massage: 7.5/10.
Part 2:
Age: Mid 20's.
Looks: 9/10.
Body: 9/10.
Technique: 5/10.
Attitude: 1/10.
KPS: 10/10.[/QUOTE]
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Is this the same Yeongdeungpo that has that mall Times Square?
Cause I thought the mall wiped the RLd out. Not so?
[QUOTE=I1629;2055328]On my way back from Jinju Massage to my hotel, I decided to swing by Yeongdeungpo RLD to do a quick recce for a sitrep for you guys.
Arrived at Yeongdeungpo RLD at 01300 hrs Sunday night.
Of the estimated 40 rooms there, maybe only 10 were closed (no lights) and maybe 8 or 9 girls busy (lights on, nobody).
Possibly due to the rains, most of the girls were out in force. Possibly 25-30 of them were there. A hand full were more interested in their phones than doing business, but a couple of them did wave me over.
Spotted a cute one, but didn't think mini me nor my wallet was up to another round this evening, so I walk regretfully onward.
Seems like the place is going strong, possibly stronger than when I was last here.
Maybe it's just the weather.[/QUOTE]
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Whats the korean characters for Huegaetals? So I know what I'm looking at the site.
Total Noob in regards to these places.
[QUOTE=Phloppy;2055547]Decided to try cold call a couple of the Hugaetels on adal. About 5 of them I called and was turned down. First thing I ask is "Can foreigners make an appointment?" in Korean. Finally one said yes. Its called Orange. They offer Thai and Korean girls with the Koreans slightly more expensive. 2 pops at 30 minutes a piece and a good 40 minute Thai massage for 170,000. The first girl was Thai. She spoke little Korean or English. But we weren't there for chatting. She was slender and spunky. Good first ride to get the jitters out. After that, the old lady came in for a massage. I thought it was pretty good. She spoke a little of Korean and English. Second girl was Korean and stunning. What she had in looks, she didn't have in personality though. It was a fun ride though.
I recommend the place. Look them up. They offer a couple "courses" and of course they will accept foreigners, but you must be able to speak a little Korean to navigate your way through the phone call and to the location.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2055779]Cause I thought the mall wiped the RLd out. Not so?[/QUOTE]Yeah. When I was there 2 years ago that RLD was pretty dead because of Times Square.
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2055781]Whats the korean characters for Huegaetals? So I know what I'm looking at the site. Total Noob in regards to these places.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing that hyugetel = 휴 게 텔.
(Hopefully the hangul is showing up properly.).
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2055776]Oh well next time you know.[/QUOTE]Really?
Rockit Reports says only HJ available.
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[QUOTE=LunchMeat;2054593]Just an update, I noticed shortly after I posted my report about the mature BP experience, this provider changed the tile to her add, age and email address but has the same pictures and message inside her post. I think she reads this forum and didn't like what I said about her stink box. LOL [URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/outcall-independent/3743926[/URL].
LM.[/QUOTE]It seems I am having trouble getting to outside US Backpage sites. If I click on the link above, it takes me to us. [URL]backpage.com[/URL].
Anyone else having this problem? Any fix?
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Craigslist ad
Would like to recommend a great value off Seoul craigslist therapeutic services. Look for July 1 ad, Hello, Thai therapy. Follow the website link.
I've seen Miwoo twice. Pictures on the site are accurate, but I don't think she's as young as 22, maybe 26. She isn't as skinny as the pictures either, maybe 5 or 10 pounds heavier. When you contact the number they'll send you a menu for the 2 girls who are advertised. I've gone with the 40 min 1 shot twice which costs 110,000. You can get 180 min 3 shots for 400,000 and there is a 2 girl option for 350,000. A guy will escort girl to room and you'll hand him the bills. The 40 minutes is legit, clock starts when she walks in the room and she'll leave 40 minutes later. Miwoo doesn't speak any English. My two times with her have been outstanding. Only issue is she doesn't BBBJ, only CBJ. That's a big issue exactly and I don't think I'll repeat with her. Compared to backpage 200,000 won+ girls where you're probably not getting the girl in the picture, this is a great deal for an attractive young girl. I'll try the other girl one of these days.
They also offer Thai / oil massage, which I have tried as well. It was good, but, if you know how to work the Thai massage places, there's really no point to this. They're very clear that this is a no-sex situation. The girl I got looked great, but she simply wasn't going to take her clothes off. Finish is available for a tip. For someone visiting Seoul who has a room booked this isn't a bad deal.
I currently have a Thai joint that is my go-to. 100,000 won for a legit 2 hours in the room. They always set me up with the cutest girl they have. These girls are here on 60 or 90 day visas so the turnover is frequent. They'll ask for 50,000 for a finish but you can talk them down to 30,000. You can probably talk them down to 20,000 but I don't go below 30,000. The best thing here, besides the fantastic massage, is you can get more than the HJ, for me that would be DATY and FIV and BBBJ. Went a couple minutes of uncovered full once but don't think I'll go that far again. Won't share location of this address, but as I think I've said many times before, it isn't difficult to find these spots. Any Thai place where you go into a room and you keep your clothes in the same room has extras. Don't go in there expecting any sort of FS because that is absolutely forbidden by the places and the girls won't offer it. Except at the places where they will, but I think those places will probably have a different price structure and setup and you'll probably know about that before you get in the room. They will always ask a foreigner for 50,000 won for HJ but you can talk that down. I would be happy to exchange Thai massage intel with private messaging. But. I don't have a membership I haven't had one in a while, not since my bank refused to process my membership payment and I had to ask in person to have my card turned back on.
There are a couple backpage girls I'm interested in checking out and will post reviews when I do. Those girls are juicy lemon daytime service and veeda. Haven't seen a lot of great intel the past couple years. The kiss bangs in sadang and sillim are legit, as in, exist. It's a YMMV thing. I usually go with 60 minutes option, which is more like 45/50 minutes. I usually do really well in the situations but there is always a chance where the girl just isn't into it and then it's a long 45 minutes.
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Well hes a foreignor too so probably same ripoff experience as you
I'm korean american and always get cimbbj. Not even a question. My first ever visit there and the girl starting sucking my dick till I jizzed in her mouth without even asking me.
[QUOTE=Swpc10;2056075]Really?
Rockit Reports says only HJ available.[/QUOTE]
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Thanks!
Will check it out.
[QUOTE=YeongIl;2055819]I'm guessing that hyugetel = 휴 게 텔.
(Hopefully the hangul is showing up properly.).[/QUOTE]
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So the RLD is back? What subway station and exit number?
I can probably find it with at least these directions.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=NotherMonger;2055789]Yeah. When I was there 2 years ago that RLD was pretty dead because of Times Square.[/QUOTE]
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Gunma reviews
Jinju spa is a type of gunma I think. There is a website called [URL]opss3.com[/URL] I recommend doing a google search for that with the hangul for massage. You can open up a translate page or have your browser translate the page. There are thousands of gunma reviews. Its a two step. First a massage lady and then a finisher. I haven't gone to any reviewed places yet but it is on my agenda.
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2056555]I'm korean american and always get cimbbj. Not even a question. My first ever visit there and the girl starting sucking my dick till I jizzed in her mouth without even asking me.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I will check it out. ].
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[QUOTE=Swpc10;2056076]It seems I am having trouble getting to outside US Backpage sites. If I click on the link above, it takes me to us. [URL]backpage.com[/URL].
Anyone else having this problem? Any fix?[/QUOTE]Yes. When I'm using VPN from US, can't open outside BP sites, always take to US BP. I have to logout from VPN to search for other BP.
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Jessie independent escort
Hi boys,
I hired an independent lady from the MR website from a dinner date. I spend a lot of time in Seoul and wouldn't mind catching up with someone for more than just a romp in the sack. The catch up didn't start well as she showed up 1 HR late, which is never a good start. Anyway before dinner I took her for a drink and it went down hill really fast, her English is not bad but she spent 90% of her time texting (I know, welcome to the new world) and she is not really into making conversation. She looked absolutely bored to death. It's possible that I'm not the most interesting person around, but compared to other dinner dates I've been on it was really bad. After 15 min I called it a night.
To sum it all up, if you are looking for a dinner date arrangement run for your life. On the flip side she is a attractive women and it is her pics on the ad. So if your looking for something a bit more banal with a cute Korean lady she might be right for you.
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Best bet is Suwon
[QUOTE=ThomKatt;2049982]Hey fellas,
Going to be in Seoul in a couple of weeks, wondering if anyone can confirm if the rumours are true about the RLD. I've RTFF for about 10 pages, and other sites, and it seems some people have visited these places lately:
Hooker Hill. Still fully functional and operational. Best bet.
Cheonho. Being phased out, but still operational.
588/ Cheongnyangni / Dongdaemun-gu. Completely gone?
Miari Texas. Some remnants left?
Times Square / YDP. Some remnants left?
Gangnam-daero. Still fully functional and operational. Lots of anmas / massage places / etc.
Thanks for any help bros. Will write full field reports after.[/QUOTE]Spent a few weeks in Seoul recently and of all the redlights visited, Suwon was the best. Majority of girls were ok with foreigners and only a few tried to up charge. The place also had more girls available before 4 pm. Cost was 40-70 Won.
Dongducheonjungang also did not mind non Korean speaking westerner but limited number of girls and best looking girl there really wanted to rush everything.
Cheonho did not look like it was being phased out and seemed to have some renovations going on. I did not have much luck because I went before 6 pm and only 2 of the girls showed any interest but were not my type.
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Times Square, YeongDeungPo
I went earlier this week to YDP maybe after 10 pm and more than half of the glass houses were up and running despite the heavy rain.
I did not get the feeling it was being phased out (though I had not been around Seoul in its prime) but I can understand why it is not popular anymore. 70 k for 15 minutes of action is very poor dollar value. Paying 30 k more for an hour at a hyugetel seems like a better deal to me. Or pay double for an hour with a young beautiful girl with GFE at a officetel. If they brought their prices down to 50 k then they would be much more competitive but at 70 k RLDs never made sense in the modern climate.
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[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2057149]Spent a few weeks in Seoul recently and of all the redlights visited, Suwon was the best. Majority of girls were ok with foreigners and only a few tried to up charge. The place also had more girls available before 4 pm. Cost was 40-70 Won.[/QUOTE]Travelling John, were the girls in Suwon offering half an hour for those prices, or is that for 20 minutes?
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Suwon
[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2057149]Spent a few weeks in Seoul recently and of all the redlights visited, Suwon was the best. Majority of girls were ok with foreigners and only a few tried to up charge. The place also had more girls available before 4 pm. Cost was 40-70 Won.
Dongducheonjungang also did not mind non Korean speaking westerner but limited number of girls and best looking girl there really wanted to rush everything.
Cheonho did not look like it was being phased out and seemed to have some renovations going on. I did not have much luck because I went before 6 pm and only 2 of the girls showed any interest but were not my type.[/QUOTE]I was at Suwon RLD around lunchtime and all windows in the alleys where occupied, very busy also with old Korean men wanting a lunch shot, price all asked for 40 k many younger ones but the Koreans where older atsumas. Still I prefer Korean pussies.
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Thai Massage
[QUOTE=TowTowRow;2056491]Would like to recommend a great value off Seoul craigslist therapeutic services. Look for July 1 ad, Hello, Thai therapy. Follow the website link.
I've seen Miwoo twice. Pictures on the site are accurate, but I don't think she's as young as 22, maybe 26. She isn't as skinny as the pictures either, maybe 5 or 10 pounds heavier. When you contact the number they'll send you a menu for the 2 girls who are advertised. I've gone with the 40 min 1 shot twice which costs 110,000. You can get 180 min 3 shots for 400,000 and there is a 2 girl option for 350,000. A guy will escort girl to room and you'll hand him the bills. The 40 minutes is legit, clock starts when she walks in the room and she'll leave 40 minutes later. Miwoo doesn't speak any English. My two times with her have been outstanding. Only issue is she doesn't BBBJ, only CBJ. That's a big issue exactly and I don't think I'll repeat with her. Compared to backpage 200,000 won+ girls where you're probably not getting the girl in the picture, this is a great deal for an attractive young girl. I'll try the other girl one of these days.[/QUOTE]Seems like Miwoo and Ann have moved on, which is a pity as Ann seemed cute.
Anyone kind enough to point me in the direction of Thai places which have nice girls add-ONS? I'm at Shindorim and a search on daum maps show no Thai Massage Places nearby.
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Best anma
Hi. I read somewhere boit a place called best anma in Seoul. Does anyone have any directions.
Also, I used to know a great lip cafe that recently closed. Does can anyone help me find a replacement? Anyone have directions to a lip cafe in Seoul?
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[QUOTE=Casualfriday;2059726]Hi. I read somewhere boit a place called best anma in Seoul. Does anyone have any directions.
Also, I used to know a great lip cafe that recently closed. Does can anyone help me find a replacement? Anyone have directions to a lip cafe in Seoul?[/QUOTE]Where was the great lip cafe located?
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Near Guui station. It's close.
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Quick review
Hey guys,
I've been lurking these forums for a little over a year now so I thought now might be a good time to finally have some input back into the forum. So a little about me so you can get a feel for how my experiences went; I'm 25, around 6 foot 1, in decent shape and half Korean. Koreans typically think I'm white and white people think I'm Korean. I also speak a grand total of zero Korean.
If you have any specific questions regarding any place, let me know. So places I've been:
MVP VIP:
This place is pretty great and I used to come here a lot but I have since gotten a tad tired of it. The price is about 110 k won and they do full service and sometimes have a quick and weak massage to start it off. The girls here are older, I'd say around 30's but don't look bad really. They speak pretty much zero English amongst the 5-6 girls I've seen there. However, I'm pretty sure if you wanted or tried, you could get their numbers and meet them outside if that's your thing. I've gotten 3 of their kakaos and they try to use translate apps to invite me to coffee / ice-cream and what not. 2 of them also let me go bareback surprisingly so that's a pretty good time. The place itself is kind of shady looking and pretty depressing. From messaging one of them I learned they actually live there upstairs. So the price is great, the service is pretty great, but their looks could use some improvement. I forgot her name, but she's from a xxxxstan country like Kazakhstan / Uzbekistan or something and she's probably my favorite there.
Backpage ads:
I've given backpage so many chances. Probably around 10 girls and each time it disappoints me. They have such high prices ranging from 200 k to around 260 k and they really don't offer much. They do look better and I've gotten pretty good at spotting fake ads for agencies. Those are the ones you have to look out for. The agencies that bait and switch normally have the worst girls. They seem extremely uninterested / bored / want to leave. Some don't even kiss. Amazing. However, there are some gems in there. The ones that are great are typical the actual independent girls. I normally do a search of "incall" and those are normally the best. These one Japanese independent girl on there names riku? Niku? Something like that. She's really skinny and I wouldn't recommend her at all although she's independent.
Mirai Texas:
I went here like a month or two ago and god is this place awful. I legitimately almost threw up walking in the area. I had no problem getting old ladies to call me to their room display thing where a girl sits on the floor. I spent like 80 K and got full service from a girl with a nice face but really saggy body. She offered no condom but I declined seeing how shady the place was. Anyways, horrible and I likely wouldn't come here ever again or recommend it.
Ace anma:
To be honest, anma's seem to get a lot of hate on here but ace is pretty great and the one I would typically recommend. I've had 3 different girls and they are always really hot. The service is really GFE type and it feels extremely clean. They make small talk, seem interested in you, don't rush anything. Its great. Its pretty expensive though at around 280 k for foreigners.
Tiffany anma:
Pretty much a worse version of ACE at everything. Locations a tad farther from me, girl didn't look as good, spoke less English, cost about the same. Took me forever to find this place as its hidden in plain sight.
Fish anma:
Walked up, they asked if I'm Korean (in Korean) I said no then they said no foreigners. No go for me.
Bella spa (or whatever it is):
They give a massage and oral / HJ for I think it was 130 k? I would actually come here a lot if the massage was good. A older woman in her 40's or 50's comes in and gives you a massage followed by a younger girl to finish you off. The old woman gives a really crap massage. It feels like quick slaps mostly and really fast pushes into my skin. No real rubbing or attempt to massage so meh. Place was ok if you want to give it a shot.
Eve anma:
The 3 girl thing was pretty fun but was near impossible to cum on the third girl. The first girl comes in and gets right to work with getting you to cum. EThe second girl comes in and gives you an erotic chair massage thing. She actually licked my butt hole. Strangest feeling ever. You don't have sex with her and then the 3rd girl comes in. Mine was decent looking bit was a heavy smoker which smelled awful. Price was around 270 k.
Oficetel:
Probably the best price for service. I have a Korean coworker who set this up for us. Its essentially the same kind of feel as an anma at like 120 k but for mostly Koreans only. My coworker texted some number and the guy told my friend to go to some random hotel. We get there let the phone guy know we arrived, meet him and pay him the money. He shows us pictures on his phone of who's available. I take my pick then he tells me the room number to go to and knock. I do just that and this fine k pop looking girl answers the door. We make small talk. Then shower together, go back massage a bit then FS. No rush at all and the guy will call her personal phone when times like 10 minutes form up. If you can get into this, its definitely the best option.
Anyways, if you have any questions about locations or anything just let me know and I'll answer them for ya. I would go more in depth but I'm getting pretty lazy with my typing.
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Kay
I haven't been to the hill I ages! I was wondering if anyone has seen Kay from Happy Days lately? She's a real treat.
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That you want
There are hundreds of smartphone chat sites. One site contains hundreds of girls. Probably searching for 100,000 girls. You can see the pictures of the girls. You can check your face, body, and position. Then just chat with them. There is no problem if you are a foreigner. The reason is because Korean girls have curiosity. Please use Google Translator. Chat is simple. Price and where to meet? Sometimes you can meet college students. They are only 15 k satisfied. A slender early 20's.
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Which chat apps do you use?
[QUOTE=Fisher1098;2060107]There are hundreds of smartphone chat sites. One site contains hundreds of girls. Probably searching for 100,000 girls. You can see the pictures of the girls. You can check your face, body, and position. Then just chat with them. There is no problem if you are a foreigner. The reason is because Korean girls have curiosity. Please use Google Translator. Chat is simple. Price and where to meet? Sometimes you can meet college students. They are only 15 k satisfied. A slender early 20's.[/QUOTE]Which chat apps are good? I've used tinder. You can get lucky sometimes, but it's a lot of gypos, western chicks and stuck up chicks.
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Officetel
I had another great experience at an officetel in Gangnam this time. I thought I would not be back at an officetel but some businesses have changed so you can have two shots for just another 10.000 on top of the normal 130.000 rate.
I hope we can continue to stop over-paying for sub-par experiences and continue giving incentives for businesses to lower their rates.
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[QUOTE=CasualFriday;2060240]Which chat apps are good? I've used tinder. You can get lucky sometimes, but it's a lot of gypos, western chicks and stuck up chicks.[/QUOTE]I know what you mean by tinder and I don't understand why they use it and say no ONS or Hook-Ups. Don't they know that's what tinder was initially meant to be used for. It's not eHarmony for God Sakes.
LM.
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Suwon massage
Over the weekend, I decided to give one of these massage places a try that has the inflatable lighted sign out front that advertises "24 hour massage". The sign is about 3 meters tall & has the impression of a foot on it. So I head in and the menu is all in Korean / Hangul. I point to the 1 hr30 min massage for 70,000 KWN. I get the masseuse and I notice she is too tan to be Korean, and the black hair doesn't look Korean. I engage in conversation with her and find out she is from South East Asia. As the massage is about over, in comes mamasan and asks if I want service. I figured what the hell, why not. I pay the 100,00 KWN for 40 minutes. I'm told to put on a robe and I'm lead out of the curtained room and back into the hallway. We walk over to the edge of a room and she moves the curtain out of the way to reveal a false wall behind the curtain. The curtain appears to be made for the hallway / doorway next to it, but obviously serves as a dual purpose.
I go into the new room where there is a similar massage bed set up, and on the other side of the small room is a shower room with a table shower. I hangout for about little bit and incomes a tall girl I mistook for a Korean lady. Turns out she is half Chinese and half Mongolian. That explains the large breast size and a better curvier body, due to her Mongolian mom. She strips naked and proceeds to hose down the table shower mattress with warm water, has me get on the bed and lubes my back up and lubes her body up. She performed a very nice Nuru massage. I can feel her pelvic bone going across my back as she pushes her mound around on my back. She has me flip and repeats the process. She cleans me off and we head over to the massage table. She performs some really enthusiastic BBBJ on me. I flip her on her back and do some DATY. I got her moaning and she reached down to spread her lips for me to really flick the "bean". She puts the condom on and I proceed to mount her and ride it out. After the duty is done, she takes the condom off and goes into the shower with it. I see what she is doing, and she is washing the fuck out of the condom. ? Next thing I know, she is bringing the condom back into the room and wrapping the condom back up in the foil wrapper it came in. WTF? I cleaned up and left. Overall a good experience, but I got surprised about her washing the fuck out of the condom. I'll have to pay a little more attention to where the condom comes from next time. I might repeat if I can find the massage shop again after boozing around, or maybe I'll just come across another massage shop. Have fun and stay safe.
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Well how about name of the biz or link or something. Otherwise your post is a so what
Arent forums to pass along useful intel?
Otherwise I can post that I had a very deep cleansing shit today and at very clean toilet at a mall.
[QUOTE=SeoulSex;2060468]I had another great experience at an officetel in Gangnam this time. I thought I would not be back at an officetel but some businesses have changed so you can have two shots for just another 10.000 on top of the normal 130.000 rate.
I hope we can continue to stop over-paying for sub-par experiences and continue giving incentives for businesses to lower their rates.[/QUOTE]
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Seoul
[QUOTE=KyleIrving;2059876]Hey guys,
I've been lurking these forums for a little over a year now so I thought now might be a good time to finally have some input back into the forum. So a little about me so you can get a feel for how my experiences went; I'm 25, around 6 foot 1, in decent shape and half Korean. Koreans typically think I'm white and white people think I'm Korean. I also speak a grand total of zero Korean.
If you have any specific questions regarding any place, let me know. So places I've been:
MVP VIP:
This place is pretty great and I used to come here a lot but I have since gotten a tad tired of it. The price is about 110 k won and they do full service and sometimes have a quick and weak massage to start it off. The girls here are older, I'd say around 30's but don't look bad really. They speak pretty much zero English amongst the 5-6 girls I've seen there. However, I'm pretty sure if you wanted or tried, you could get their numbers and meet them outside if that's your thing. I've gotten 3 of their kakaos and they try to use translate apps to invite me to coffee / ice-cream and what not. 2 of them also let me go bareback surprisingly so that's a pretty good time. The place itself is kind of shady looking and pretty depressing. From messaging one of them I learned they actually live there upstairs. So the price is great, the service is pretty great, but their looks could use some improvement. I forgot her name, but she's from a xxxxstan country like Kazakhstan / Uzbekistan or something and she's probably my favorite there..[/QUOTE]This is fantastic information. Thank you. I will be in Seoul in September and will check out some of these paces.
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Back Page Afternoon Again
Hey all,
I posted a lot of info and reviews here before but to do various reasons I had to abandon the old account (some here know what I'm talking about and I was a senior member). Anyway, I saw someone a little interesting on BP (posters age 28 and has the word winter in her ad). Real pictures (looks better in person), great GFE, very clean, does incall / outcall and not a clock watcher at all. I did two pops in in about 90 minutes and paid a little over the asking price of 220 K. I did incall and it worked out well, I arrived on time and we met on time. Communication is all by email only. One of the best BBBJ CIM I've ever had (my GF is still a little better). She has a super tight body and is very friendly, she's Thai. I will go back again, but she leaves next week and maybe back again next month.
I'm a paid member, so if you want more details, just PM me.
Thanks,
LM.
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Information please
[QUOTE=SeoulSex;2060468]I had another great experience at an officetel in Gangnam this time. I thought I would not be back at an officetel but some businesses have changed so you can have two shots for just another 10.000 on top of the normal 130.000 rate.
I hope we can continue to stop over-paying for sub-par experiences and continue giving incentives for businesses to lower their rates.[/QUOTE]Can you please give some information on how you found and contacted this, and other officetel places. It would be greatly appreciated.
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[QUOTE=CasualFriday;2060866]Can you please give some information on how you found and contacted this, and other officetel places. It would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]I don't think I can link to sites here but there are portal websites out there relatively easy to find with all the information you need. (I use adal.) You will need to know how to read Korean to navigate the website, as well as how to speak Korean to make your reservation over the phone.
Kgirlpower, I gave you two keywords: Gangnam and officetel. You know which avenues to go through, so the rest is up to you. Surely I don't have to hold your hand throughout the entire process. .
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Backpage Avoidance
Greetings,
I'd like to ad to the backpage awareness so that you may avoid these duds and time wasters. I am 0/2 on the backpage front. The asking rates of 240 or 250 are always countered with a 200, which I feel is also ridiculous. However, I don't get any replies when I counter below 200. First off the list is Sa Rang Kim. She has huge hoots in the pic. That wasn't the girl who showed up. She claimed to be an independent but obviously not. Second off the list is Sujin Lee. She claims to be an office worker and can meet after 6 pm. After agreeing to 200 and several exchanges just before the prearranged meeting, she asks if I was white. Upon confirmation, she requests an extra 40 for length tax. This allowed me to predict the forthcoming crappy service, so it was a blessing that I didn't respond to the length tax email. Good luck in weeding out the duds and time wasters.
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Tax?
[QUOTE=MrOrange12;2061661]Greetings,
After agreeing to 200 and several exchanges just before the prearranged meeting, she asks if I was white. Upon confirmation, she requests an extra 40 for length tax. This allowed me to predict the forthcoming crappy service, so it was a blessing that I didn't respond to the length tax email. Good luck in weeding out the duds and time wasters.[/QUOTE]I don't know why she's charging a length tax when nearly if not all her customers from BP are foreigners and I'the bet a majority of them are westerners. She should advertise her price with tax already included. None of my Korean friends have never heard of BP, and why would they, when they have muuuuuch better websites and options available. If you read my post below, you will see I did a FR about a very good independent.
Good luck,
LM.
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[QUOTE=OralSea;2061930]I don't know why she's charging a length tax when nearly if not all her customers from BP are foreigners
LM.[/QUOTE]Because she's a bit at h.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2062292]Because she's a bit at h.[/QUOTE]That is correct. She knew I was a foreigner but was hoping that my horniness at the last minute would defer to her nonsense. I don't think she'll last long with those poor business skills.
OralSea's report on the Thai FL was bang on. It's nice we can access SE Asians here in Korea.
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[QUOTE=MrOrange12;2061661]Greetings,
I'd like to ad to the backpage awareness so that you may avoid these duds and time wasters. I am 0/2 on the backpage front. The asking rates of 240 or 250 are always countered with a 200, which I feel is also ridiculous. However, I don't get any replies when I counter below 200. First off the list is Sa Rang Kim. She has huge hoots in the pic. That wasn't the girl who showed up. She claimed to be an independent but obviously not. Second off the list is Sujin Lee. She claims to be an office worker and can meet after 6 pm. After agreeing to 200 and several exchanges just before the prearranged meeting, she asks if I was white. Upon confirmation, she requests an extra 40 for length tax. This allowed me to predict the forthcoming crappy service, so it was a blessing that I didn't respond to the length tax email. Good luck in weeding out the duds and time wasters.[/QUOTE]Sujin is now answering emails with a starting price of 250,000 krw. I asked if there was a discount for small penises, and she said "LOL same. ".
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Suwon RLD
Can officially confirm it's alive and kicking. Be and see row yes, A row not so much. A decent looking be and see row girl must be making 2-3 times as much as most A-row girls nightly, that's how dead A-row looks compared to the other parts. I must've counted at least 100 guys in be and see whereas there were probably 20-30 in A.
Most of the mongerers there are SE Asian 3 D workers. Most be and see row girls are on the wrong side of 50 yrs, or on the wrong side of 80 kg, or both! However there are a few youngish and good looking girls available there.
I bagged what looked like a 7. 5 (face and a tight size 6 body in a dress) from be row for 40 k won! Looked no older than early 20s, very smooth skin all over. When we went inside and her dress came off, her body was more like a 6. 5 for my taste, A-cups and no upper body shape. Her hips and ass were great though, and she could arch back like a real pro in doggy.
Only CBJ (good technique, shame it wasn't bare!) and no BBFS, but I can't complain too much given the price.
Would I repeat? HELL YEAH for 40 k won! LOL.
Still on a mission to find that BBFS regular in suwon that would meet my standards.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;2063078]Can officially confirm it's alive and kicking. Be and see row yes, A row not so much. A decent looking be and see row girl must be making 2-3 times as much as most A-row girls nightly, that's how dead A-row looks compared to the other parts. I must've counted at least 100 guys in be and see whereas there were probably 20-30 in A.
Most of the mongerers there are SE Asian 3 D workers. Most be and see row girls are on the wrong side of 50 yrs, or on the wrong side of 80 kg, or both! However there are a few youngish and good looking girls available there.
I bagged what looked like a 7. 5 (face and a tight size 6 body in a dress) from be row for 40 k won! Looked no older than early 20s, very smooth skin all over. When we went inside and her dress came off, her body was more like a 6. 5 for my taste, A-cups and no upper body shape. Her hips and ass were great though, and she could arch back like a real pro in doggy.
Only CBJ (good technique, shame it wasn't bare!) and no BBFS, but I can't complain too much given the price.
Would I repeat? HELL YEAH for 40 k won! LOL.
Still on a mission to find that BBFS regular in suwon that would meet my standards.[/QUOTE]What time are they open? What's your ethnicity? Reading through this thread most of the guys who report success with certain massage shops and RLD always turn out to be Asian. Do they except guys who are white or black?
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How was it?
[QUOTE=MrOrange12;2062407]OralSea's report on the Thai FL was bang on. It's nice we can access SE Asians here in Korea.[/QUOTE]Mr. O,
By your post, it sounds like you met her. How was it? I'm thinking of going back again this weekend, but she said she's leaving soon. I would have rather sent you a PM but you're not a paid / senior member. It's worth the 20 bucks.
Thanks,
Lunch M,
Out.
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Hi,
Nice reports. May I ask: do you look Korean? If you do, did you notice whether guys that are clearly not Korean (IE Caucasian) were able to get service there?
[QUOTE=Tsfh14;2034704]After having a few drinks and relaxing, I made my way from Gangnam to Cheonho station. Exit 3, walk straight until the 1st major road, turn right. Hook a left at the next intersection and straight ahead is a V-intersection, take the right fork and you'll see all the pink glass doors. I went around 7-8 pm on a Thursday and there was hardly anyone else around. I made a lap first to scope things out and I had mamasans and girls calling me in at nearly every window that was open. I am ethnically Asian so that probably factored into the initial friendliness as they hadn't gotten the chance to hear me speak Korean LOL.
I had some interest in some girls in the A row, but I was taken in by someone in see row as she looked similar to a friend of mine haha. So I said screw it, walked up to her and she led me upstairs. Seemed to have a little stand-off-ish attitude but I was all game for it. Paid 80 k won for 20 minutes which seems to be the standard BTW at all the shops, regardless of row. I undressed and showered sans lady, which is fine by me and laid on the bed as she showered after me. She was a tiny girl, couldn't have been more than 5'2" (just gave away the fact I'm American) with a really pretty face and nice legs. Very decent, proportional tits, a nice handful see cup and a tiny waist, giving her a nice hourglass figure. Her hair was done in a sexy geisha-style bun thing. It's the little things..[/QUOTE]
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Jace again and again and again
This is my third meet up with Jace.
[URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/the-upscale-sweet-jace-waiting-for-your-call-independent/5188868[/URL]
True independent escort. Current final year university student in Seoul. Setup was easy by email and she will reply promptly with her pic and you can request more pictures.
She not have KPOP style of face or breast or body but her services is excellent. She more like a cute young girl next door type.
Her body is similar with her AD pictures maybe with extra plum but not fat. Who really put actual pictures in their AD?
Very punctual except this time a bit delay because of traffic in front of my hotel but she will updated me with Whatsapp.
Her English is fluent and not a time watcher or money counter. I'm the one who keep looking at the time and remind her about money.
Really good with GFE service as you think she is your real girlfriend. Short chit chat and she will go to the bathroom to freshen up and the action begin.
For 250 K per hour including CIM, I can't say anymore. You can request more extra service with additional price and mostly she will not have any objections.
I think this is my last meet up with her because I'm finished with Seoul but if anyone already meet her just let me know if I'm wrong.
Word of advise, book her on your last day of Seoul because if you book on your early day, trust me you will keep coming back.
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I'll Keep Her in Mind
[QUOTE=JayWalk0104;2063383]This is my third meet up with Jace.
[URL]http://seoul.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/the-upscale-sweet-jace-waiting-for-your-call-independent/5188868[/URL]
True independent escort. Word of advise, book her on your last day of Seoul because if you book on your early day, trust me you will keep coming back.[/QUOTE]I'll have to keep her in mind for later. Also, she posted picture of an ISG review someone wrote on her twitter page and there's a vid on pornhub too.
Just saying,
She sounds fun.
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[QUOTE=Facebook2;2063239]What time are they open? What's your ethnicity? Reading through this thread most of the guys who report success with certain massage shops and RLD always turn out to be Asian. Do they except guys who are white or black?[/QUOTE]
Suwon RLD is operational 24hrs 6 days a week. I think it's closed on either Monday or Tuesday night.
I'm most definitely not Asian.
Most RLD girls in Korea won't service me, but I've learned to not take it personally. I'd rather give my money to people who want to earn it.
I always make sure to do 2-3 trips around a RLD before making my choice. Speaking Korean does help, as it makes the girls relax a bit more. For example, the girl I was with at suwon wanted to know if I'd been drinking, when I told her no and asked if she had been drinking (as a joke), she smirked and slightly hit me playfully.
Most will always ask where you're from. I never say I'm American, I just tell them I'm from some neutral country like Canada or Spain (I'm not white either LOL).
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Plan and ask advise
I will be in Seoul for a week, first 3 days for business, stay in Gwannak-Gu area and next 4 days, I plan to move to a hotel in Gangnam area (according to my reading, Gangnam area has more activities). I plan to stay in Novotel Ambassdor, 130, Bongeunsa-ro, Gangnam-gu. About US $180 per night, expensive, but seems convenient location close to action centers. A few questions:
1. In a first few days, I stay in Gwannak-Gu area, is that convenient to take subway to action centers? I plan to do north of river for first a few days since I will stay in Gangnam area for rest of 4 days anyway, do-able? Good plan?
2. Is the Novotel Ambassdor a convenient location and girl friendly by the hotel? Walking distances to many action places in Gangnam? Any other convenient hotel to stay (if money is not a concern)?
3. For Eva Massage, 3 girl special, do I have a choice of girls or just take what assigned to me? Can I ask for change, if I don't like whom assigned? How about other anma, like Fish Anmas? Can I ask a change if I don't like whom assigned to me?
I plan to visit Anmam, RLD, and to use escorts in about a week. Please advise. Thanks so much! These girls are young and desease free (HIV negative, in case condom break or flip off)?
Thank you so very much!
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[QUOTE=AllForBb;2063589]I will be in Seoul for a week, first 3 days for business, stay in Gwannak-Gu area and next 4 days, I plan to move to a hotel in Gangnam area (according to my reading, Gangnam area has more activities). I plan to stay in Novotel Ambassdor, 130, Bongeunsa-ro, Gangnam-gu. About US $180 per night, expensive, but seems convenient location close to action centers. A few questions:
1. In a first few days, I stay in Gwannak-Gu area, is that convenient to take subway to action centers? I plan to do north of river for first a few days since I will stay in Gangnam area for rest of 4 days anyway, do-able? Good plan?
2. Is the Novotel Ambassdor a convenient location and girl friendly by the hotel? Walking distances to many action places in Gangnam? Any other convenient hotel to stay (if money is not a concern)?
3. For Eva Massage, 3 girl special, do I have a choice of girls or just take what assigned to me? Can I ask for change, if I don't like whom assigned? How about other anma, like Fish Anmas? Can I ask a change if I don't like whom assigned to me?
I plan to visit Anmam, RLD, and to use escorts in about a week. Please advise. Thanks so much! These girls are young and desease free (HIV negative, in case condom break or flip off)?
Thank you so very much![/QUOTE]The Nov Ambassador in near Sinnonhyeon station. You're right across the street from Jinju (pearl) massage. By taxi, the old Eve and VIP are almost base rate, Hera is about 3,000 Won. Fish and Ace are about 4,000 Won. The new Eve at Nambu Bus Terminal is about a 5,000 Won taxi ride.
For the 3 girl relay at Eve, you do not get to pick your line up. Changing girls is not prohibited for the 3 girl relay but highly frowned upon, especially during peak times (it really messes up their rotations). Don't be shocked if they just say "no changes."
Fish allows you to select a girl from photos with faces blurred out.
For one on one, all anmas will allow you to change girls (but I would keep it to once, possibly twice but never more than that).
Anma girls in Korea are extremely STD safe. Premium establishments will test girls once a month or once every two months. Freelancers are a bit more of a risk but still very safe.
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BP vs Massage Republic. Are either any more legit then the other and how LE safe?
Haven't used either before but Based on some of the posts. Massage Republic seem pretty Hi rate of success of getting good service and good looking girls vs BP. Is that fair to say?
Also, how LE safe is the girls from Massage Republic?? I mean some of the ad posts there are so blatantly a hooker ad with service description like yes CIM or no Anal etc. I know Korea is less LE then US but this blatant? Arent the girls who post worried about LE? Or do I need to worry about an LE sting?
Thanks.
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Wanted to update you guys on areas with anmas, kiss bangs, massage with he.
Area 1: Between Gangnam Gu Station and Hakdong you will find a he massage every block or so. And 5 anmas I noticed including the famous ones like Ace and Fish.
Area 2: Hongdae in the exit 1 side. In the back street I found he massage parlors every block, 1 Anma, and 3 kiss bangs. Can't miss the kiss bangs as all 3 have K symbols. 1 even has a sign outside in english.
Area 3: Between Gangnam station and Yangjae station I found about 5 Anmas. All look Hi end.
All have clear signs in english or korean so can't miss the places. Always amazes me how LE in Korea turns a blind eye.
Hope this helps.
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Old and new eve
[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2063675]The Nov Ambassador in near Sinnonhyeon station. You're right across the street from Jinju (pearl) massage. By taxi, the old Eve and VIP are almost base rate, Hera is about 3,000 Won. Fish and Ace are about 4,000 Won. The new Eve at Nambu Bus Terminal is about a 5,000 Won taxi ride.
For the 3 girl relay at Eve, you do not get to pick your line up. Changing girls is not prohibited for the 3 girl relay but highly frowned upon, especially during peak times (it really messes up their rotations). Don't be shocked if they just say "no changes."
Fish allows you to select a girl from photos with faces blurred out.
For one on one, all anmas will allow you to change girls (but I would keep it to once, possibly twice but never more than that).
Anma girls in Korea are extremely STD safe. Premium establishments will test girls once a month or once every two months. Freelancers are a bit more of a risk but still very safe.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much!
Both old and new eve is open? By the same owner? Same rate? Which one is better?
Also, in a first few days, I will stay in Gwannak-Gu area, is that convenient to take subway to action centers? Or I can do something locally? Kiss Bang? In call? Any suggestions?
Thank you again!
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Silim-dong Kiss Bangs
Since I will stay in Gwanak-gu (Gwanak-ro) for 3 nights, anything I can do there? I saw from the Seoul Map (by World Travel 69) that there are Silim-dong Kiss Bangs described:
JJok JJok JJok: Exit 3, 1 minute walk. It's past the see you Mini Mart. 010-5xxxx270.
Mirror K: no address, direction given. 010-9xxxx104.
Any ideas about these two?
Thanks.
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AllForBb,
Never been to Sillim kiss bangs. Usually have to call or text to make appt. Walkins usually turned away. In my kiss bang experience walk in and ask for card or phone number. Say that you were recommended by korean friend and you understand no sex rule. Make appoint by text messaging in my experience the guys can text in english. The farther out from seoul the better your mileage. I had a nice girl DATY and fingering and BBBJCIM this week on the outskirts of seoul. I probably didn't have to tip but I did because you want to have good rep in these joints. Sillim may be good location I don't think they get heavy foreigner traffic.
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Sadang KB
Quick review. Location was posted several months ago and repeated once or twice since then.
This place is busy busy busy. Busy. I actually got a walk in the first time but they gave me a card and asked to call ahead. I've seen 6 or 7 girls here in 4 visits. I think they try to get 2 hours out of you. I think. I've never felt that way in a KB before. Girl quality is just fine but there are some in their early or mid 30's who act tired and look tired and aren't much fun. I think 3 or 4 quoted me a service price before the hot and heavy. 1 or 2 didn't. Rooms are really small. Girls are constantly rotating around rooms. But it's easy to get caught up in that atmosphere and I think each time I saw 2 girls. Maybe once just one. Impossible to take panties off in this place there stocking setup is strong. Have fingered but really isn't worth the effort. The last time I went I only tipped 10 from a horrible HJ to completion from a hot chick and she wasn't delighted with that but wasn't angry either I haven't been back since.
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Seoul question
Hi,
I apologize if this is the wrong forum for this. I'm a white American, not especially a big guy, but clearly not Korean. I like the window-shopping (or fishbowl) experience. How easy / hard will it be for me to get service in a place like Cheonho or YLD? It's hard to say from reading the forums. As a reference, forums give wildly different responses about foreigners getting service in a place like Tobits Shinchi in Osaka, but for my part I have found that to be very easy. At least 50% and probably more like 75-80% of girls there are willing. Anyway, any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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Thank you!
[QUOTE=OralSea;2060746]Hey all,
Anyway, I saw someone a little interesting on BP (posters age 28 and has the word winter in her ad).[/QUOTE]Thank you for kind words. I hope see you again when I come back! Next time I do better than you GF.
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Foreigners Window-Shopping in Korea
[QUOTE=Rxyz123;2064000]Hi,
I apologize if this is the wrong forum for this. I'm a white American, not especially a big guy, but clearly not Korean. I like the window-shopping (or fishbowl) experience. How easy / hard will it be for me to get service in a place like Cheonho or YLD? It's hard to say from reading the forums. As a reference, forums give wildly different responses about foreigners getting service in a place like Tobits Shinchi in Osaka, but for my part I have found that to be very easy. At least 50% and probably more like 75-80% of girls there are willing. Anyway, any help would be appreciated.
Thanks![/QUOTE]The glass house girls make most of their money from locals (Koreans). Korean guys don't want to have sex with someone who has just had sex with a foreigner (for a number of reasons). So, visit a glass house area when it isn't busy and approach a girl when there aren't any Korean guys around.
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Hotels in Gangnam -Please advise
Hi friends,
I haven't book the hotel yet for my trip next week. After reading ISG, considering the following 3. Question: which is more convenient for actions (no need to consider the price because it is a business trip, can be covered, convenience for mongering is most important), please advise:
1. Gangnam Artnouveau City.
49, Seocho-daero 74-gil, Seocho-gu.
Seoul, Seoul 06626.
About US $ 130/ night, including brackfast.
2. Shilla Stay Seocho.
427, Hyoryeong-ro, Seocho-gu.
Seoul, 06628.
About US $ 155/ night, including brackfast.
3. Novotel Ambassdor.
130, Bongeunsa-ro, Gangnam-gu.
About US $180 per night, no brackfast.
Please advise. Thank you so very much!
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[QUOTE=CasualFriday;2059726]Hi. I read somewhere boit a place called best anma in Seoul. Does anyone have any directions.
Also, I used to know a great lip cafe that recently closed. Does can anyone help me find a replacement? Anyone have directions to a lip cafe in Seoul?[/QUOTE]Hi!
I have asked some of my colleagues who have been to Seoul and they tell me that we can find escorts in the Gangnam area, especially if you ask about the Star or the Fiona. Many passers-by and taxi drivers are used to taking people to these places. I have also been told that normally they have red or pink lights on the door, which comes in handy for identifying them.
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Stop Harassing Women on BP!
Who ever it is, stop harassing women on backpage by sending them rude and degrading emails knowing they read ISG. Someone here used my info and now they think it was me. Not cool at all.
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Thanks a lot. I appreciate it.
[QUOTE=Dexter88;2064194]The glass house girls make most of their money from locals (Koreans). Korean guys don't want to have sex with someone who has just had sex with a foreigner (for a number of reasons). So, visit a glass house area when it isn't busy and approach a girl when there aren't any Korean guys around.[/QUOTE]
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Please advise on convenient hotel in Gangnam. Thanks!
Hi fellow mongerers, ISG members.
Please see below and advise. I need to make the hotel reservation today or tomorrw the latest. Your opinions will be great appreciated.
All4 bb.
[QUOTE=AllForBb;2064272]Hi friends,
I haven't book the hotel yet for my trip next week. After reading ISG, considering the following 3. Question: which is more convenient for actions (no need to consider the price because it is a business trip, can be covered, convenience for mongering is most important), please advise:
1. Gangnam Artnouveau City.
49, Seocho-daero 74-gil, Seocho-gu.
Seoul, Seoul 06626.
About US $ 130/ night, including brackfast.
2. Shilla Stay Seocho.
427, Hyoryeong-ro, Seocho-gu.
Seoul, 06628.
About US $ 155/ night, including brackfast.
3. Novotel Ambassdor.
130, Bongeunsa-ro, Gangnam-gu.
About US $180 per night, no brackfast.
Please advise. Thank you so very much![/QUOTE]
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No one want to comment / advise?
No one want to even say a word for advising? Too busy for mongering yourselves? Disappointing!
[QUOTE=AllForBb;2064272]Hi friends,
I haven't book the hotel yet for my trip next week. After reading ISG, considering the following 3. Question: which is more convenient for actions (no need to consider the price because it is a business trip, can be covered, convenience for mongering is most important), please advise:
1. Gangnam Artnouveau City.
49, Seocho-daero 74-gil, Seocho-gu.
Seoul, Seoul 06626.
About US $ 130/ night, including brackfast.
2. Shilla Stay Seocho.
427, Hyoryeong-ro, Seocho-gu.
Seoul, 06628.
About US $ 155/ night, including brackfast.
3. Novotel Ambassdor.
130, Bongeunsa-ro, Gangnam-gu.
About US $180 per night, no brackfast.
Please advise. Thank you so very much![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=AllForBb;2065144]No one want to even say a word for advising? Too busy for mongering yourselves? Disappointing![/QUOTE]They are all in gangnam area not a big difference.
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Stay Hotel in Gangnam
[QUOTE=AllForBb;2065144]No one want to even say a word for advising? Too busy for mongering yourselves? Disappointing![/QUOTE]You should try Stay Hotel Gangnam (15-4, Nonhyeon-ro 87-gil, Gangnam-gu, Gangnam-Gu, Seoul, South Korea) in Gangnam district. It is a newly opened hotel and has close access to subway station (Yeoksam station) which is just 2 stops away from Gangnam. I had a suite room there and it fits your budget. Room is pretty standard with a nice king size bed, but the bathroom was huge with a large bathtub. The front desk are very accommodating with mongering activities there.
Cheers.
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Aqua
I am staying at the Westin Chosun and didn't want to make the trek to another neighborhood tonight, so decided to give Aqua a try. Found their add on BP, called and they offered to send Mina immediately. She arrived quite quickly. Actually 10 minutes early which was nice. Paid her the 280 k and she then took a solo shower. She was very nice. Cute but not quite hot. Great body and a good attitude, but was a little scripted when it came to the deed. After a good bit of pounding she made it clear she wanted me to finish soon. I decided if that's what she wanted then she'd have to finish me with more BBBJ and she let me bust in her mouth. To her credit, she took it like a champ. It was good enough, but suppose I've had hotter and better quality K-girl experiences at the full service AMP's in New York. Overall a fun time and got what I expected.
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Russian in Seoul
I am a white guy that lives in Seoul (just moved from Jeju) but came back from a recent holiday in Russia with a taste for their girls. Usually get my K-girls from Tinder and monger here with Pinays. Anyway been craving a Russkie and after a reference from a friend contacted an agency and arranged for a blonde Russian girl. Surprised that it was actually the girl in the pictures, that never happens with agencies! Her name was Kate (Katya) but she uses the Americanised name because a lot of Koreans are frightened to contact Russian girls because they think they are in the mafia. Every day I learn something new and weird about this place.
She didn't look dangerous, about 5'4 and petite with great enhanced breasts that bounced wonderfully. Wearing a tight little black dress that clung to her wonderfully. She had a couple of tattoos (which I hate on a girl) but she hid them in her pictures, clever girl. Agreed one hour for 200, which is less than she should get here but as if I am going to tell her that. Started with a shower and then a nice long BJ. I was feeling lazy and she was good at it, so it went about 30 min. Then railed her in a few positions, wouldn't let me cum on those awesome tits though. Went to the shower afterwards and I opted to extend for another hour so I could enjoy round two. Went overtime but she didn't seem to mind but then her phone started going off after an extra 30 min so somebody did. Russian mafia?
Great experience, will definitely repeat, easily a 9/10. A fantastic GFE. They also have some Latinas and I am going to try those out, never had a South American. Will let you know when I explore this new frontier.
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[QUOTE=KyleIrving;2059876]Hey guys,
I've been lurking these forums for a little over a year now so I thought now might be a good time to finally have some input back into the forum. So a little about me so you can get a feel for how my experiences went; I'm 25, around 6 foot 1, in decent shape and half Korean. Koreans typically think I'm white and white people think I'm Korean. I also speak a grand total of zero Korean.
If you have any specific questions regarding any place, let me know. So places I've been:
MVP VIP:.[/QUOTE]Thank you for some great info. Can you give exact directions for this MVP VIP please? I plan to be in Seoul for a few days next week and would love to try it.
It seems like you can not receive PMs. I was hoping you or someone on the site can help out with officetels. I have been wanting to try them out but do not know any Korean. Feel free to PM me if someone is willing to help. We can go together one night next week. Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=SadSam;2067198]Thank you for some great info. Can you give exact directions for this MVP VIP please? I plan to be in Seoul for a few days next week and would love to try it.
It seems like you can not receive PMs. I was hoping you or someone on the site can help out with officetels. I have been wanting to try them out but do not know any Korean. Feel free to PM me if someone is willing to help. We can go together one night next week. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Hey man,
MVP VIP is at gangnam station exit 5. As you leave exit 5, walk maybe 20-50 feet and there should be a road to turn right. That corner has a multi level building with a see you store, I think a Cafe, and a restaurant downstairs. You go in then go inside the building then go downstairs I think two floors. Should be on the same floor as a restaurant and a laundry mat. And it's fairly obvious when you see it. Has neon lights and two spinning polls.
I managed to get an account on adal5 as well LOL. I had a Korean friend go through the account creation process for me so what I did this past week was message pretty much every officetel and asked if they accept foreigners. Like 80 percent said no but a few said yea and I saved their info. I went with one of them and he took me to the room on a fine Korean girl. However, I don't think they were on the same page. When I got inside she was trying to speak Korean and I couldn't. So she was shocked then called the guy and said stuff. He calls me and says I'm so sorry she is uncomfortable with someone who doesn't speak Korean. Can I give you a Russian girl? I said ugh fine. Got a 30 dollar discount though which was nice. And the Russian girl wasn't bad at all. She looked good and was really like a sex nymph. She was soaked and loving it and took my condom off herself. So that was nice. Was a good time. I have the number to the officetel that said they accept foreigners if I'm able to post a numbers on this forum let me know.
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[QUOTE=SadSam;2067198]Thank you for some great info. Can you give exact directions for this MVP VIP please? I plan to be in Seoul for a few days next week and would love to try it.
It seems like you can not receive PMs. I was hoping you or someone on the site can help out with officetels. I have been wanting to try them out but do not know any Korean. Feel free to PM me if someone is willing to help. We can go together one night next week. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I would meet up with you as well. I work every other day so I have a lot of random days off.
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[QUOTE=SadSam;2067198]Thank you for some great info. Can you give exact directions for this MVP VIP please? I plan to be in Seoul for a few days next week and would love to try it.
It seems like you can not receive PMs. I was hoping you or someone on the site can help out with officetels. I have been wanting to try them out but do not know any Korean. Feel free to PM me if someone is willing to help. We can go together one night next week. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]That is great that everyone thinks you are a foreigner. Does that help or hinder you in Korea?
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Your PM did not work
[QUOTE=KyleIrving;2067538]I would meet up with you as well. I work every other day so I have a lot of random days off.[/QUOTE]Hi,
I stay in Gangnam Artnouveau City Hotel very close to exit 5 of the Gangnam station and will be here for next 2 days. Can we meet? Or can you provide Officetel phone number near the Gangnam station? Thanks! I sent you a PM but was reject indicating you do not receive PM. You may fix it.
Thanks much!
All4 bb.
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My short report
I was in VIP yesterday, did two, one former USSR country next to Russia (Pakistan?) One Korean. Price 120 KW X2. 45 minutes each. Both about 30 years old, not my type (I like younger Korean in their early 20's). I was told, for such type of young Korean girls, I have to find them in Officetel or at high-end of places like Castel (Hara), and pay 270-280 kw. Is that right?
Many places in the reports with 160 kw or lower, only do regular massage plus hand / blow jobs, no intercourse (VIP is different, but girls are too old). I hope someone provide officetel phone numbers in the area through PM, or meet, or go to Castle, etc, in that area (just two stops from Gangnam station). Please comment / suggest.
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=AllForBb;2067661]I was in VIP yesterday, did two, one former USSR country next to Russia (Pakistan?) One Korean. Price 120 KW X2. 45 minutes each. Both about 30 years old, not my type (I like younger Korean in their early 20's). I was told, for such type of young Korean girls, I have to find them in Officetel or at high-end of places like Castel (Hara), and pay 270-280 kw. Is that right?
Many places in the reports with 160 kw or lower, only do regular massage plus hand / blow jobs, no intercourse (VIP is different, but girls are too old). I hope someone provide officetel phone numbers in the area through PM, or meet, or go to Castle, etc, in that area (just two stops from Gangnam station). Please comment / suggest.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]What is this castle Hara place you are talking about? Never heard of it. I've been to eve once like a year ago and heard they recently changed to start Anma. Been meaning to try that out.
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[QUOTE=KyleIrving;2067537]Hey man,
MVP VIP is at gangnam station exit 5. As you leave exit 5, walk maybe 20-50 feet and there should be a road to turn right. That corner has a multi level building with a see you store, I think a Cafe, and a restaurant downstairs. You go in then go inside the building then go downstairs I think two floors. Should be on the same floor as a restaurant and a laundry mat. And it's fairly obvious when you see it. Has neon lights and two spinning polls.
I managed to get an account on adal5 as well LOL. I had a Korean friend go through the account creation process for me so what I did this past week was message pretty much every officetel and asked if they accept foreigners. Like 80 percent said no but a few said yea and I saved their info. I went with one of them and he took me to the room on a fine Korean girl. However, I don't think they were on the same page. When I got inside she was trying to speak Korean and I couldn't. So she was shocked then called the guy and said stuff. He calls me and says I'm so sorry she is uncomfortable with someone who doesn't speak Korean. Can I give you a Russian girl? I said ugh fine. Got a 30 dollar discount though which was nice. And the Russian girl wasn't bad at all. She looked good and was really like a sex nymph. She was soaked and loving it and took my condom off herself. So that was nice. Was a good time. I have the number to the officetel that said they accept foreigners if I'm able to post a numbers on this forum let me know.[/QUOTE]Great info bri, thanks.
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[QUOTE=KyleIrving;2067822]What is this castle Hara place you are talking about? Never heard of it. I've been to eve once like a year ago and heard they recently changed to start Anma. Been meaning to try that out.[/QUOTE]Castle (Hera) Anma. Seolleung station.
Description.
Exit 2, one block west ($5 taxi ride). 37.502968, 127.045887 Prices: 270 k KRW.
Can we meet this evening or tomorrow afternoon for officetel? I am leaving on Saturday. Please PM me.
There are two eve? Old one closed? If yes, what is new "start" location? How to get there?
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New to scene!
Hello everyone,
New to scene out here so looking to chat with someone and perhaps learn the ropes. This place is very different from my usual grounds. Been reading through post and looks like there's plenty of great info here so thanks for all the info sharing. I do have a paid account but for some reason I never got the confirmation email so some features don't quite work for me while others do. So please pm me. Been using massagerepublic since I got out here, but am now curious about the districts and anmas so any information would be great.
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OMG are all Latinas that good? My first south american ever, easily 10/10. It was like having Shakira dancing on my cock. Already extended, going back for more. Thank you Hugo Chavez for fucking up your country.
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Another useless post. Here's mine: I had a deep bowel emptying at nice toilet.
Very clean and equiped with heated bidet water spout for nice cleansing.
[QUOTE=Sterlo;2068014]OMG are all Latinas that good? My first south american ever, easily 10/10. It was like having Shakira dancing on my cock. Already extended, going back for more. Thank you Hugo Chavez for fucking up your country.[/QUOTE]
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Condom off as in bareback?
Didn't realize russian girls offer that service as well. Was it extra fee?
[QUOTE=KyleIrving;2067537]Hey man,
MVP VIP is at gangnam station exit 5. As you leave exit 5, walk maybe 20-50 feet and there should be a road to turn right. That corner has a multi level building with a see you store, I think a Cafe, and a restaurant downstairs. You go in then go inside the building then go downstairs I think two floors. Should be on the same floor as a restaurant and a laundry mat. And it's fairly obvious when you see it. Has neon lights and two spinning polls.
I managed to get an account on adal5 as well LOL. I had a Korean friend go through the account creation process for me so what I did this past week was message pretty much every officetel and asked if they accept foreigners. Like 80 percent said no but a few said yea and I saved their info. I went with one of them and he took me to the room on a fine Korean girl. However, I don't think they were on the same page. When I got inside she was trying to speak Korean and I couldn't. So she was shocked then called the guy and said stuff. He calls me and says I'm so sorry she is uncomfortable with someone who doesn't speak Korean. Can I give you a Russian girl? I said ugh fine. Got a 30 dollar discount though which was nice. And the Russian girl wasn't bad at all. She looked good and was really like a sex nymph. She was soaked and loving it and took my condom off herself. So that was nice. Was a good time. I have the number to the officetel that said they accept foreigners if I'm able to post a numbers on this forum let me know.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KyleIrving;2059876]Hey guys,
I've been lurking these forums for a little over a year now so I thought now might be a good time to finally have some input back into the forum. So a little about me so you can get a feel for how my experiences went; I'm 25, around 6 foot 1, in decent shape and half Korean. Koreans typically think I'm white and white people think I'm Korean. I also speak a grand total of zero Korean.
If you have any specific questions regarding any place, let me know. So places I've been:
MVP VIP:
This place is pretty great and I used to come here a lot but I have since gotten a tad tired of it. The price is about 110 k won and they do full service and sometimes have a quick and weak massage to start it off. The girls here are older, I'd say around 30's but don't look bad really. They speak pretty much zero English amongst the 5-6 girls I've seen there. However, I'm pretty sure if you wanted or tried, you could get their numbers and meet them outside if that's your thing. I've gotten 3 of their kakaos and they try to use translate apps to invite me to coffee / ice-cream and what not. 2 of them also let me go bareback surprisingly so that's a pretty good time. The place itself is kind of shady looking and pretty depressing. From messaging one of them I learned they actually live there upstairs. So the price is great, the service is pretty great, but their looks could use some improvement. I forgot her name, but she's from a xxxxstan country like Kazakhstan / Uzbekistan or something and she's probably my favorite there.
Backpage ads:
I've given backpage so many chances. Probably around 10 girls and each time it disappoints me. They have such high prices ranging from 200 k to around 260 k and they really don't offer much. They do look better and I've gotten pretty good at spotting fake ads for agencies. Those are the ones you have to look out for. The agencies that bait and switch normally have the worst girls. They seem extremely uninterested / bored / want to leave. Some don't even kiss. Amazing. However, there are some gems in there. The ones that are great are typical the actual independent girls. I normally do a search of "incall" and those are normally the best. These one Japanese independent girl on there names riku? Niku? Something like that. She's really skinny and I wouldn't recommend her at all although she's independent.
Mirai Texas:
I went here like a month or two ago and god is this place awful. I legitimately almost threw up walking in the area. I had no problem getting old ladies to call me to their room display thing where a girl sits on the floor. I spent like 80 K and got full service from a girl with a nice face but really saggy body. She offered no condom but I declined seeing how shady the place was. Anyways, horrible and I likely wouldn't come here ever again or recommend it.
Ace anma:
To be honest, anma's seem to get a lot of hate on here but ace is pretty great and the one I would typically recommend. I've had 3 different girls and they are always really hot. The service is really GFE type and it feels extremely clean. They make small talk, seem interested in you, don't rush anything. Its great. Its pretty expensive though at around 280 k for foreigners.
Tiffany anma:
Pretty much a worse version of ACE at everything. Locations a tad farther from me, girl didn't look as good, spoke less English, cost about the same. Took me forever to find this place as its hidden in plain sight.
Fish anma:
Walked up, they asked if I'm Korean (in Korean) I said no then they said no foreigners. No go for me.
Bella spa (or whatever it is):
They give a massage and oral / HJ for I think it was 130 k? I would actually come here a lot if the massage was good. A older woman in her 40's or 50's comes in and gives you a massage followed by a younger girl to finish you off. The old woman gives a really crap massage. It feels like quick slaps mostly and really fast pushes into my skin. No real rubbing or attempt to massage so meh. Place was ok if you want to give it a shot.
Eve anma:
The 3 girl thing was pretty fun but was near impossible to cum on the third girl. The first girl comes in and gets right to work with getting you to cum. EThe second girl comes in and gives you an erotic chair massage thing. She actually licked my butt hole. Strangest feeling ever. You don't have sex with her and then the 3rd girl comes in. Mine was decent looking bit was a heavy smoker which smelled awful. Price was around 270 k.
Oficetel:
Probably the best price for service. I have a Korean coworker who set this up for us. Its essentially the same kind of feel as an anma at like 120 k but for mostly Koreans only. My coworker texted some number and the guy told my friend to go to some random hotel. We get there let the phone guy know we arrived, meet him and pay him the money. He shows us pictures on his phone of who's available. I take my pick then he tells me the room number to go to and knock. I do just that and this fine k pop looking girl answers the door. We make small talk. Then shower together, go back massage a bit then FS. No rush at all and the guy will call her personal phone when times like 10 minutes form up. If you can get into this, its definitely the best option.
Anyways, if you have any questions about locations or anything just let me know and I'll answer them for ya. I would go more in depth but I'm getting pretty lazy with my typing.[/QUOTE]Ace anma and mvp vip looks like the place to be.
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2068148]Didn't realize russian girls offer that service as well. Was it extra fee?[/QUOTE]Yea it was bareback but she didn't charge extra. Like at officetel, you pay the guy that's sort of like a pimp. I met him at a convenient store. So you negotiate price through him. Then when you pay, he just says OK go to that building floor whatever room whatever. Then you go knock and the girl answers then you go at it.
So I remember she wasn't actually Russian looking back. She was Ukrainian. Regardless I was trying to sneak the condom off. Like you know rubbing the clit while going at it. Then when you thrust in, use my fingers to push against the condom ring as you pull out then rinse and repeat till it comes off. I got it about half way then she just reaches down and takes it off and throws it away. I think she knew what I was up to.
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[QUOTE=HeyyyyyyPaul;2068190]Ace anma and mvp vip looks like the place to be.[/QUOTE]MVP VIP for price and service. Ace for quality and service. Eve for experience.
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Castle (hera)
[QUOTE=KyleIrving;2067822]What is this castle Hara place you are talking about? Never heard of it. I've been to eve once like a year ago and heard they recently changed to start Anma. Been meaning to try that out.[/QUOTE]I was there last night. Receptionists were friendly and speak ok English. I was told 270 kw for 2 hours (1 hour massage + 1 hour S&F). I said I needed only 1 hour without massage. Then was told 220 kw. A young (in early 20's) 165 cm, slim, good looking Korean girl with great light skin color came in. Small tits but great legs, feet, hip. I had a good time. I told them I will come again tonight. They advise to come after 10:00 pm, because these young Korean beauty start late in the day. Is that true for other places such as ACE (night VS day shift)? Can such price structure 220 kw work for ACE instead of 280 rip off for foreigner? I don't need one hour massage.
I will leave tomorrow evening. I plan to try ACE or VIP in the afternoon. Hope will find some young beauties in the afternoon. Unfortunately, KyleIrving did not help with officetel. You are too busy yourselves, and no PM.
How to get to EVE? You can easily advise on this. No time to read old reports at this moment. Thanks for your advise.
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[QUOTE=KyleIrving;2068241]MVP VIP for price and service. Ace for quality and service. Eve for experience.[/QUOTE]How late is MVP open? Also, KyleIrving, would love to meet up with you to try out an officetel as I have no Korean connection or language skills to pull that off.
I will be there next week staying near the Courtyard Marriott near City Hall. But don't know how to connect with you.
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Overdue Report
I found a pretty good Hyugyetel near Gongreung called Orange. First time, I asked if they accepted foreigners and he said OK. Then he gave me directions to the place. First time I chose 1+Massage+1. They ask if you want a solo shower, I accepted. First girl I chose was a skinny, spunky Thai girl. She was a lot of fun, really enjoys (or acts like it very well) the time and will pretty much let you do anything accept anal. Right after you finish an older (she said 44) Thai lady comes in and gives a pretty good 40 deep tissue minute massage. Second, I chose a k-pop girl (for an extra 10,000 won) and while she was hot she was a bit mechanical. Either way, worth my time.
I also went to Hooker Hill on a weekend. Still some good ass to be had. Across from the old Texas bar is a place with a pretty girl named Su-jin. Can't remember the name of the bar. She was really sweet but knew what she had to do. I dropped 10 on my drink and 20 on the lady drink. Then she quotes me 200 k for FS. I low balled her at 60 k and she was offended and told me she wasn't a cheap girl. Fair enough. She came back with 100 k and I agreed. Good GFE experience with some fondling and kissing on the couch while we finished our drinks. She was happy I spoke Korean and she was pretty damn hot with the dirty talk. The deed was anything but mechanical, but she did not let me lick her pussy. Said it would cost 50 k more. Anyways, a good time.
That same evening I was contemplating another of the pretty ladies on the Hill but I decided for another massage+1 at Orange instead. Asked for the same skinny spunky Thai girl. She remembered me. They must not get foreigners much. Again a great time with a fun girl.
As an aside, I must say I enjoy the Thai girls or the Hooker Hill girls best. I am above average in size and they never have a problem taking it all in. Most Korean girls who have not had foreigners much have a hard time taking it all and mostly they just tell me it hurts.
I'm glad to see the Hill still has some quality. If you speak enough Korean to get through a simple phone conversation and get directions, I would recommend Orange.
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[QUOTE=KyleIrving;2068241]MVP VIP for price and service. Ace for quality and service. Eve for experience.[/QUOTE]How late is MVP open? Thanks.
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[QUOTE=SadSam;2069122]How late is MVP open? Thanks.[/QUOTE]To be honest man I'm not sure. Latest I've been is around 11 pm.
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[QUOTE=AllForBb;2068296]I was there last night. Receptionists were friendly and speak ok English. I was told 270 kw for 2 hours (1 hour massage + 1 hour S&F). I said I needed only 1 hour without massage. Then was told 220 kw. A young (in early 20's) 165 cm, slim, good looking Korean girl with great light skin color came in. Small tits but great legs, feet, hip. I had a good time. I told them I will come again tonight. They advise to come after 10:00 pm, because these young Korean beauty start late in the day. Is that true for other places such as ACE (night VS day shift)? Can such price structure 220 kw work for ACE instead of 280 rip off for foreigner? I don't need one hour massage.
I will leave tomorrow evening. I plan to try ACE or VIP in the afternoon. Hope will find some young beauties in the afternoon. Unfortunately, KyleIrving did not help with officetel. You are too busy yourselves, and no PM.
How to get to EVE? You can easily advise on this. No time to read old reports at this moment. Thanks for your advise.[/QUOTE]Sorry man. I'm pretty sure they are dead set on the increased foreigner pricing. I think the mentality is to them they are doing us a service by even letting us. So no way the charge less.
I'm sorry! I'm not sure how to pm. I'm new to posting. I'm pretty sure I have to actually pay money to pm so I'm not about to pay to help others out. But you can honestly do what I did. Meet literally any Korean and have them translate the account creation screen on adal5. Then go make a Korean email by go ogling Korean email. I forgot which one I used but it was simple. Then, once the account is created, log in preferably with Google Chrome and use their Google translate web app. From there, the left had side has officetel in gangnam, officetel in Suwon, other area, massage parlors, etc as categories. Click office gangnam. Then it's like a Craigslist style listing of ads. Click like the first 15. Messenger them all and ask if they accept foreigners. Most will sat no but a few say yes. Unfortunately, Google translate doesn't work on the actual ads themselves because they are uploaded images like posters. Not actual text. I would give the contact info if I'm allowed to post phone numbers up here. Could someone advise if that's allowed or not?
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Bareback
Questions:
1. You were actually come in pussy (CIP)? She did not worry?
2. Since she seems not worry abot bareback and CIP, did you worry, because she might let many men do this?
3. Lot of girls have white stuff while pull out, change positions. These are infections? Or nothing to worry about much using your techniques?
3. Any more teaching on how to do it skillfully?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=KyleIrving;2068240]Yea it was bareback but she didn't charge extra. Like at officetel, you pay the guy that's sort of like a pimp. I met him at a convenient store. So you negotiate price through him. Then when you pay, he just says OK go to that building floor whatever room whatever. Then you go knock and the girl answers then you go at it.
So I remember she wasn't actually Russian looking back. She was Ukrainian. Regardless I was trying to sneak the condom off. Like you know rubbing the clit while going at it. Then when you thrust in, use my fingers to push against the condom ring as you pull out then and repeat till it comes off. I got it about half way then she just reaches down and takes it off and throws it away. I think she knew what I was up to.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=AllForBb;2069778]Questions:
1. You were actually come in pussy (CIP)? She did not worry?
2. Since she seems not worry abot bareback and CIP, did you worry, because she might let many men do this?
3. Lot of girls have white stuff while pull out, change positions. These are infections? Or nothing to worry about much using your techniques?
3. Any more teaching on how to do it skillfully?
Thanks![/QUOTE]1. Nah I only CIP like one time. Other times I already feel kind of rude sneaking the condom off. So I didn't want to be a total dick and CIP too.
2. Actually, if they offer bareback I reject it because of that reason. If they don't offer it and it's a cleaner area like an anma, I sneak it off and feel safe. Clean thus far.
3. LOL kind of a weird question but in my experience, women have a cream during their times of ovulation. It's not infections or anything. Old cum in there would look like cottage cheese. But regular creamy white is normal.
4. Well what I do is as I said. You rub the clit then go deep enough that the entire condom is in. As you rub the clit, press down against your penis behind the condom. Then pull out and pull your hips up against your finger rubbing the clit So as you pull out it kind of pulls it off as well. It also doesn't like fall of. It makes it go inside them.
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[QUOTE=Phloppy;2069032]I found a pretty good Hyugyetel near Gongreung called Orange. First time, I asked if they accepted foreigners and he said OK. Then he gave me directions to the place. First time I chose 1+Massage+1. They ask if you want a solo shower, I accepted. First girl I chose was a skinny, spunky Thai girl. She was a lot of fun, really enjoys (or acts like it very well) the time and will pretty much let you do anything accept anal. Right after you finish an older (she said 44) Thai lady comes in and gives a pretty good 40 deep tissue minute massage. Second, I chose a k-pop girl (for an extra 10,000 won) and while she was hot she was a bit mechanical. Either way, worth my time.
I also went to Hooker Hill on a weekend. Still some good ass to be had. Across from the old Texas bar is a place with a pretty girl named Su-jin. Can't remember the name of the bar. She was really sweet but knew what she had to do. I dropped 10 on my drink and 20 on the lady drink. Then she quotes me 200 k for FS. I low balled her at 60 k and she was offended and told me she wasn't a cheap girl. Fair enough. She came back with 100 k and I agreed. Good GFE experience with some fondling and kissing on the couch while we finished our drinks. She was happy I spoke Korean and she was pretty damn hot with the dirty talk. The deed was anything but mechanical, but she did not let me lick her pussy. Said it would cost 50 k more. Anyways, a good time.
That same evening I was contemplating another of the pretty ladies on the Hill but I decided for another massage+1 at Orange instead. Asked for the same skinny spunky Thai girl. She remembered me. They must not get foreigners much. Again a great time with a fun girl.
As an aside, I must say I enjoy the Thai girls or the Hooker Hill girls best. I am above average in size and they never have a problem taking it all in. Most Korean girls who have not had foreigners much have a hard time taking it all and mostly they just tell me it hurts.
I'm glad to see the Hill still has some quality. If you speak enough Korean to get through a simple phone conversation and get directions, I would recommend Orange.[/QUOTE]Got any more info on how to get here at Orange? Also are you white? Were they foreigner friendly?
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Thank you for your reply
[QUOTE=KyleIrving;2070544]1. Nah I only CIP like one time. Other times I already feel kind of rude sneaking the condom off. So I didn't want to be a total dick and CIP too.
Really?
2. Actually, if they offer bareback I reject it because of that reason. If they don't offer it and it's a cleaner area like an anma, I sneak it off and feel safe. Clean thus far.
Good point indeed! Me too, if it was offered, I reject. If not, should be relative clean pussy.
3. LOL kind of a weird question but in my experience, women have a cream during their times of ovulation. It's not infections or anything. Old cum in there would look like cottage cheese. But regular creamy white is normal.
Thanks for advise. You are expert of girls and pussy!
4. Well what I do is as I said. You rub the clit then go deep enough that the entire condom is in. As you rub the clit, press down against your penis behind the condom. Then pull out and pull your hips up against your finger rubbing the clit So as you pull out it kind of pulls it off as well. It also doesn't like fall of. It makes it go inside them.[/QUOTE]
Still confuse. "You rub the clit", mean rub girls' clits? "... pull your hips up against your finger rubbing the clit... ". What do you mean "pull your hips up. "?
I would like to learn your techniques. Yours are great!
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[QUOTE=AllForBb;2070884]Still confuse. "You rub the clit", mean rub girls' clits? "... pull your hips up against your finger rubbing the clit... ". What do you mean "pull your hips up. "?
I would like to learn your techniques. Yours are great![/QUOTE]Your posts are very strange. You sound korean.
I think you need regular GF experience first.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2070897]Your posts are very strange. You sound korean.
I think you need regular GF experience first.[/QUOTE]Right? I couldn't tell if it was because I'm new to posting here or if I'm the weird one for thinking this is a tad strange. Just having a GF at any point would make the woman cream question fairly obvious. Felt like I was being subtly trolled.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2070897]Your posts are very strange. You sound korean.
I think you need regular GF experience first.[/QUOTE]
I am not a Korean, otherwise, I did not need KyleIrving's help on finding officetel (no need anymore since I left Korea).
Please explain how to do "pull your hips up against your finger... ". Is hip involved this technique? Excuse my understanding of this Engish word. I just want to learn from KyleIrving, his techniques. He is an expert. If everyone understand how to do it, I will try to learn more on English. Maybe hip mean pelvis here, not haunches or buttock. Please clearafy. Thanks.
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Why sneak BB onto a girl? That's a pretty shitty thing to do.
You either agree with her beforehand, or you let the mamasan / handler know what you want before paying.
It's already hard enough getting service in Korea, and now you're giving the few providers who are willing to see foreigners a reason to not want to service us.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;2071104]Why sneak BB onto a girl? That's a pretty shitty thing to do.
You either agree with her beforehand, or you let the mamasan / handler know what you want before paying.
It's already hard enough getting service in Korea, and now you're giving the few providers who are willing to see foreigners a reason to not want to service us.[/QUOTE]I understand where you are coming from however you are speaking of morality on a fourm made for prostitution. Pot / kettle.
Also I have never once been yelled at or spoken down to for it. Most all are willing to give me their kakaotalk after to get me to come back.
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[QUOTE=KyleIrving;2071193]I understand where you are coming from however you are speaking of morality on a fourm made for prostitution. Pot / kettle.
Also I have never once been yelled at or spoken down to for it. Most all are willing to give me their kakaotalk after to get me to come back.[/QUOTE]Support KyleIrvong, we are here to exchange information about how to enjoy sex with prostitutes. Speaking of morality, we are all inmoral for fucking girls / women /prostitutes outside the relationships (family or dates). If you believe political correctness or "integraty", you should not even visit this web page.
KyleIrving, could you please answer my questions on "hip" things, since English is not my first language. I just want to learn from you your techniques, of course, not over do it.
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[QUOTE=AllForBb;2071276]Support KyleIrvong, we are here to exchange information about how to enjoy sex with prostitutes. Speaking of morality, we are all inmoral for fucking girls / women /prostitutes outside the relationships (family or dates). If you believe political correctness or "integraty", you should not even visit this web page.
KyleIrving, could you please answer my questions on "hip" things, since English is not my first language. I just want to learn from you your techniques, of course, not over do it.[/QUOTE]The immoral part is part of the problem but the main problem is ruining things for others as places often become stricter accepting foreigners.
I think you shouldn't be in the sex forums if you don't know how to perform sex LOL. You should join some sort of "how to" sex forum.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2071305]The immoral part is part of the problem but the main problem is ruining things for others as places often become stricter accepting foreigners.
I think you shouldn't be in the sex forums if you don't know how to perform sex LOL. You should join some sort of "how to" sex forum.[/QUOTE]"The immoral part is part of the problem. ", if you think so, you should not be here, since you fuck the prostitutes and is immoral too.
" the main problem is ruining things for others as places often become stricter accepting foreigners. " As indicated, these girls want see KyleIrving more and have no problem. If you looks good, and have money, not big problem. In this sense, you are selfish to worry about acceptance for yourselves, since you are a foreiner.
"how to perform sex. "? I doult you are skillful enough to do that. Have you ever done this bb fuck like KyleIrving? We should learn from the masters such as KyleIrving. That's why we are here (exchange infomation and experience), not to ague moral or immoral. We are all immoral mongers. LOL.
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[QUOTE=AllForBb;2071316]"The immoral part is part of the problem. ", if you think so, you should not be here, since you fuck the prostitutes and is immoral too.
" the main problem is ruining things for others as places often become stricter accepting foreigners. " As indicated, these girls want see KyleIrving more and have no problem. If you looks good, and have money, not big problem. In this sense, you are selfish to worry about acceptance for yourselves, since you are a foreiner.
"how to perform sex. "? I doult you are skillful enough to do that. Have you ever done this bb fuck like KyleIrving? We should learn from the masters such as KyleIrving. That's why we are here (exchange infomation and experience), not to ague moral or immoral. We are all immoral mongers. LOL.[/QUOTE]Hahaha he is a master of sex because he knows how to remove a condom off during sex? Wow it doesn't take much for you to be impressed LOL.
You sound like a teenager. Like I said. Take sex education courses then start mongering. But first practice on your rubber dolls.
And by the way. I have bb with many girls that I haven't paid money to. But when it comes to service providers I prefer using condoms to prevent myself from catching what you gave them LOL.
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[QUOTE=AllForBb;2071276]Support KyleIrvong, we are here to exchange information about how to enjoy sex with prostitutes. Speaking of morality, we are all inmoral for fucking girls / women /prostitutes outside the relationships (family or dates). If you believe political correctness or "integraty", you should not even visit this web page.
KyleIrving, could you please answer my questions on "hip" things, since English is not my first language. I just want to learn from you your techniques, of course, not over do it.[/QUOTE]The only issue here is you're taking away the girl's choice on the terms with which she agreed to service you.
Sneaking BB (also known as stealthing) can amount to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] in some countries, and I would never endorse any punter that encourages it.
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Hypocritical integrity
[QUOTE=RainMania;2071340]The only issue here is you're taking away the girl's choice on the terms with which she agreed to service you.
Sneaking BB (also known as stealthing) in some countries, and I would never endorse any punter that encourages it.[/QUOTE]So hypocritical!
If you are a person with so called integrity, you really should not be here. You should be with your wife or your girl friend, and never fuck a prostitute, and never visit ISG.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2071333]Hahaha he is a master of sex because he knows how to remove a condom off during sex? Wow it doesn't take much for you to be impressed LOL.
You sound like a teenager. Like I said. Take sex education courses then start mongering. But first practice on your rubber dolls.
And by the way. I have bb with many girls that I haven't paid money to. But when it comes to service providers I prefer using condoms to prevent myself from catching what you gave them LOL.[/QUOTE]I have fucked more than 3000 girls so far in my life, most of them, prostututes, with condoms (not in Korea, but in other places of course). That's why I want to learn how to fuck prostitutes without a condom effectively, if they are as clean as Korean anmas girls. Sex education does not mean sex skill. Any information and experience sharing is much better than hypocritical joking and laughing other members.
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[QUOTE=AllForBb;2071385]I have fucked more than 3000 girls so far in my life, most of them, prostututes, with condoms (not in Korea, but in other places of course). That's why I want to learn how to fuck prostitutes without a condom effectively, if they are as clean as Korean anmas girls. Sex education does not mean sex skill. Any information and experience sharing is much better than hypocritical joking and laughing other members.[/QUOTE]Haha I wasnt joking. You need sex education classes. The joke is you. 3000 girls muhahahaa?? Now nobody takes you serious.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2071393]Haha I wasnt joking. You need sex education classes. The joke is you. 3000 girls muhahahaa?? Now nobody takes you serious.[/QUOTE]Plus 6 Korean girls I did last week, total of 3287 in my life (I keep a good count each time I fuck a different girl). Why did you not believe? Your number is much smaller (or larger)? I still need sex education? Can you be my teacher?
Please aswer the questions I posted below: "Please explain how to do "pull your hips up against your finger... ". Is hip involved this technique? Excuse my understanding of this Engish word. I just want to learn from KyleIrving, his techniques. He is an expert. If everyone understand how to do it, I will try to learn more on English. Maybe hip mean pelvis here, not haunches or buttock. Please clearafy".
I am still a serious learner even I did 3287 pussies (believe or not, it up to you, however, there is no need to make it up for me). I just want to make a point, sharing information and experience is much better than joking other members unfriendly, or hypocritically.
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[QUOTE=AllForBb;2071411]Plus 6 Korean girls I did last week, total of 3287 in my life (I keep a good count each time I fuck a different girl). Why did you not believe? Your number is much smaller (or larger)? I still need sex education? Can you be my teacher?
Please aswer the questions I posted below: "Please explain how to do "pull your hips up against your finger... ". Is hip involved this technique? Excuse my understanding of this Engish word. I just want to learn from KyleIrving, his techniques. He is an expert. If everyone understand how to do it, I will try to learn more on English. Maybe hip mean pelvis here, not haunches or buttock. Please clearafy".
I am still a serious learner even I did 3287 pussies (believe or not, it up to you, however, there is no need to make it up for me). I just want to make a point, sharing information and experience is much better than joking other members unfriendly, or hypocritically.[/QUOTE]Magic Johnson quoted less than you before pulled out.
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[QUOTE=AllForBb;2071411]Plus 6 Korean girls I did last week, total of 3287 in my life (I keep a good count each time I fuck a different girl). Why did you not believe? Your number is much smaller (or larger)? I still need sex education? Can you be my teacher?
Please aswer the questions I posted below: "Please explain how to do "pull your hips up against your finger... ". Is hip involved this technique? Excuse my understanding of this Engish word. I just want to learn from KyleIrving, his techniques. He is an expert. If everyone understand how to do it, I will try to learn more on English. Maybe hip mean pelvis here, not haunches or buttock. Please clearafy".
I am still a serious learner even I did 3287 pussies (believe or not, it up to you, however, there is no need to make it up for me). I just want to make a point, sharing information and experience is much better than joking other members unfriendly, or hypocritically.[/QUOTE]Why do you need a teacher if you had sex with over 3000 women?? Thats because you probably didn't.
And why do you want me to be your teacher. Your man crush on Kyle will keep you busy LOL.
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Be nice to your fellow mongers.
[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2071421]Why do you need a teacher if you had sex with over 3000 women?? Thats because you probably didn't.
And why do you want me to be your teacher. Your man crush on Kyle will keep you busy LOL.[/QUOTE]I still want to learn from him his skill to make my fucking better.
You just cannot believe a person who fucked over 3000 women need to learn more skill? Halfner, over 2000, a man in news in Japan (a principle of a high school) fucked over 10000 in Philipine, a NBA player, people say he did over 10000, but he recently admited only did 1000, they all say they still need to learn.
You are too naive, too young, to look down your fellow mongers. You sound a Korean.
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[QUOTE=AllForBb;2071432]I still want to learn from him his skill to make my fucking better.
You just cannot believe a person who fucked over 3000 women need to learn more skill? Halfner, over 2000, a man in news in Japan (a principle of a high school) fucked over 10000 in Philipine, a NBA player, people say he did over 10000, but he recently admited only did 1000, they all say they still need to learn.
You are too naive, too young, to look down your fellow mongers. You sound a Korean.[/QUOTE]Yeah I don't need to learn how to take a condom off during sex LOL you're the one who sounds young and immature.
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[QUOTE=AllForBb;2071373]So hypocritical!
If you are a person with so called integrity, you really should not be here. You should be with your wife or your girl friend, and never fuck a prostitute, and never visit ISG.[/QUOTE]Hypocritical? The difference between me and you is I don't try to sneak around stealthing people.
You really have no idea how much trouble it can get you into do you? If you're lucky the girl might simply call the police and cry rap3. You'll be charged and will have to pay her compensation, you might even face some jail time if the prosecutor really wants it. If you're unlucky she'll call the pimp, who will call his security and they'll go party on your face.
In both scenarios you not only fucked up for yourself, but you also fucked up for other foreigners who would most likely be blackballed from that service provider / agency.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;2071340]The only issue here is you're taking away the girl's choice on the terms with which she agreed to service you.
Sneaking BB (also known as stealthing) can amount to n some countries, and I would never endorse any punter that encourages it.[/QUOTE]You see it varies in my opinion. Do you ask every girl at all times "can I kiss you?" "Can I suck your nipples?" "Can I finger you?" Koreans surprisingly hate this for some reason "can I lick your neck?" "can I suck your toe?" if that's your fetish. Or whatever fetish you have like smelling hair or something weird. Personally I do not. I just feel for how the woman reacts and DP the same. Like I'll start moving my hand down to finger her and if she pull my hand back up then I won't do it. Like when I take the condom off o say "oh no the condom slipped off" then they will either say oh it's OK keep going or stop and get a new one. If they get a new one I just keep it on.
Its honestly quite disappointing to be preached to about morals on a prostitution site mention to spread information. What information does saying "that's fucked up you shouldn't be an ass hole" provide? Most anyone could come on this site and go "you all are fucked up for even hiring prostitutes. You are all assholes. " in the same light as trying to shame me, we all are contributing to a horrible business. You think every prostitute is some college girl paying off her bills? Not in the slightest. Most are forced to because they don't have talents, skills, or education and forced to or be homeless. You could argue "they are providing a service" but try explaining that logic to literally anyone in your daily life and see how that goes. Prostitution in and of itself is immoral. You are paying a woman to use her body. Half of us on here are married or dating as well. Is cheating on them OK? Or should we scold people for being married or dating.
I'd personally argue, what makes foreigners look worse is being fat ugly fucks with larger than Korean cocks and the stereotype of having foreign infections. I've noticed the cheaper you go the more they care about looks. In MVP VIP, they offer to go BB and CIP. But I went to a few higher end pick-your-girl, sing karaoke, hang out, drink with them for a hour or two with friends and all the girls, then individually go upstairs to your rooms to fuck. Those girls were expensive. Like 400-500. And they honestly didn't give a fuck that I was half my coworkers age and in good shape. The chick I picked was not having it when she found out I wasn't t buying tons of drinks. While my coworker was getting all the attention. We all paid but he got much more attention and they genuinely looked interested in him. Also, it goes all the way down to free. Back when I used to club in Hongdae two years ago, they gave zero fuck how much money you had. You could buy one drink all night and still fuck if you look good and are charming.
So my experience is cheaper = more personal and want not fat fucks. Expensive = don't give a fuck and wants money.
Anyways, it's a pity this has turned into a pissing contest. I came here to spread information with others who enjoy the same hobby and instead I am being scolded. It's very disheartening and makes me not want to help you guys with anything.
To all for BB, I can't help you man. I tried to explain it as best I could but at this point I think you have to try it and get a personal feel for how it works for you.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;2071555]Hypocritical? The difference between me and you is I don't try to sneak around stealthing people.
You really have no idea how much trouble it can get you into do you? If you're lucky the girl might simply call the police and cry rap3. You'll be charged and will have to pay her compensation, you might even face some jail time if the prosecutor really wants it. If you're unlucky she'll call the pimp, who will call his security and they'll go party on your face.
In both scenarios you not only fucked up for yourself, but you also fucked up for other foreigners who would most likely be blackballed from that service provider / agency.[/QUOTE]LOL that is amazingly hypocritical. You are on a Prostitution forum. You can go to jail for years for simply paying women for sex. That act itself is illegal yet you act holier than thou. You are at the mercy of the prostitute at all time. She could simply say you [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124][CodeWord124][/url] her and the bouncer will beat your face in. It's not a legal business under no legal protection so when you go into a secluded room to do an illegal activity, you are already at risk of jail / being assaulted.
Secondly I am beginning to question your experiences. Taking it off is not as simple as "***** take this dick weather you like it or not and shut the fuck up". I take it off. Go "oops it fell off" they either go "it's OK keep going " or "oh OK let me go get another one" in which case I leave it on.
By your example you better never have sex or touch a girl at a club because they are to drunk to consent to anything. So make sure you don't do anything at all or you're at risk for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and jail time! Your examples are so extreme and out of touch with reality. It's not black and white and takes a rational decision in the moment to make an adult decision.
Half the experiences on here say "the girl was mechanical and not into it". Clearly they do not want to fuck you but that doesn't matter to you cause you want to treat this woman as an object and fuck her regardless. But that's morally OK to you. In these situations, I would never take it off, do my business, and be on my way.
If the girl is making good conversation, seems into you, willing to give her her kakao, then sure I'll give it a shot to take it off. At worst they say "wait a sec let me get a new one" and at that point I would agree would be amazingly ass hole to force it off or keep going when they say wait.
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Magic Johnson.
[QUOTE=Wimble;2071416]Magic Johnson quoted less than you before pulled out.[/QUOTE]Magic Johnson's problem was not having sex with prostitutes, or how many women he fucked. The problem was that he was using drug, and was fucking man too.
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[QUOTE=AllForBb;2071606]Magic Johnson's problem was not having sex with prostitutes, or how many women he fucked. The problem was that he was using drug, and was fucking man too.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, most of the women you came across have also fucked men. And, I find many women do not request condoms or specifically ask not to use one. I usually head the other way. Also, I have been told there is quite a large number of bi-men so one is really not safe.
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[QUOTE=KyleIrving;2070545]Got any more info on how to get here at Orange? Also are you white? Were they foreigner friendly?[/QUOTE]White. You will have to find them to get location info. That's not mine to give out.
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Yes we are on a prostitution forum, not on a forum for tricking women into doing something they did not previously agree to do. You must think you're the only guy, or the smartest to have ever tried it.
You can try to play the dumb foreigner trick every time the girl notices you trying to stealth her, but one thing I've learned about the profession in Korea (and other countries) is that hookers talk, mostly to each other and sometimes to their pimps / mamasan. It's only a matter of time before you're pinned as the dodgy guy who tries to take the condom off without their knowledge.
And no, licking a girl's nipples without discussion / permission beforehand is not the same as stealthing her. If a girl had said at the start that she doesn't like her nipples being touched, and then the punter went on to deliberately touch / lick them. That would also be a shitty thing to do. With a condom, 99% of the time, the girl puts it on you, which means there is a mutual understanding between both of you on condom usage, so for you to take it off without her knowledge is you taking THAT CHOICE away from her.
80-85% of my mongering in Korea has been BBFS / CIP, guess what, I've never needed to sneakily take a condom off. I ALWAYS agree with the girl before anything is done, and if I ever get the feeling a girl doesn't want to service me I walk. It's that simple! The good thing about girls refusing tonservice you is you can be rest assured they aren't being forced and are doing the job out of choice.
The few times where I started CFS with a girl, and ended up doing BBFS, either I or she made the suggestion and the other party agreed. There have even been times when a girl agreed to BBBJ or BBFS and then tried to sneak a condom on afterwards during the BJ. Guess what, that's a shitty thing to do as well!
You can doubt my experiences all you want. My record here on ISG is there for all to see, and it only details about 20-30% of my experiences in Korea. I stopped giving advice here a long time ago because too many people in this thread are happy with paying KRW 300-500 k for vanilla sex and one shot (LOL). I imagine a lot of other experienced Korea mongerers who are still in country simply decided to stay quiet for the same reason as well, and keep their gems to themselves.
Good luck with your stealthing and overpriced pussy. As for me, I'll continue to get an understanding from my providers BEFOREHAND.
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Quote From Rainmania: "80-85% of my mongering in Korea has been BBFS / CIP, guess what, I've never needed to sneakily take a condom off. I ALWAYS agree with the girl before anything is done".
Even more dangerous.
If a prostitute agreed to let you do BBFS / CIP without a condom, she would agree to every other man to fuck her and come in pussy without a condom. "80-85%" time? You had better to check out your HIV status. LOL.
Good luck with your agreeing with the girls who let you, and let every other man to fuck her without a condom before you BBFS/CIP her (your words BEFOREHAND). LOL.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2071531]Yeah I don't need to learn how to take a condom off during sex LOL you're the one who sounds young and immature.[/QUOTE]Tell us a real number: how many real pussies you fucked in your life? The more we learn, the better in mongering life. Not other way round, young man.
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[QUOTE=AllForBb;2071689]Quote From Rainmania: "80-85% of my mongering in Korea has been BBFS / CIP, guess what, I've never needed to sneakily take a condom off. I ALWAYS agree with the girl before anything is done".
Even more dangerous.
If a prostitute agreed to let you do BBFS / CIP without a condom, she would agree to every other man to fuck her and come in pussy without a condom. "80-85%" time? You had better to check out your HIV status. LOL.
Good luck with your agreeing with the girls who let you, and let every other man to fuck her without a condom before you BBFS/CIP her (your words BEFOREHAND). LOL.[/QUOTE]Not surprised by your response. You base your stealthing on whether you 'feel' the hooker has lots of BBFS or not LOL. You should let scientists know of your new ability to 'feel' STIs!
I get myself checked every six months. Fingers crossed nothing yet!
Thankfully HIV rates in Korea are very low, moreso even lower when we're talking about penis-vaginal sex, and even lower when specifically talking about transmission from women to men through vaginal sex. BBFS is a risky activity, yes. Which is WHY I GIVE THE GIRL THE CHOICE on whether to do it or not, and not try to be a dickhead by stealthing her.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;2071715]Not surprised by your response. You base your stealthing on whether you 'feel' the hooker has lots of BBFS or not LOL. You should let scientists know of your new ability to 'feel' STIs!
I get myself checked every six months. Fingers crossed nothing yet!
Thankfully HIV rates in Korea are very low, moreso even lower when we're talking about penis-vaginal sex, and even lower when specifically talking about transmission from women to men through vaginal sex. BBFS is a risky activity, yes. Which is WHY I GIVE THE GIRL THE CHOICE on whether to do it or not, and not try to be a dickhead by stealthing her.[/QUOTE]Good. You are talking less about the moral issue. You realized you are an immoral monger too. LOL.
You are still in more dangerous situation though. As I stated below, I fucked a lot of girls, most of them, prostitutes, with condoms. You, 80-85% without condoms. Quote from you "You base your stealthing on whether you 'feel' the hooker has lots of BBFS or not" . Did you read the last 2 pages of posts? I am the person who wanted to learn from the expert who shared his experience. I don't even know much how to do it, so keep asking, and need a "sex education" as LovinAsia said. No mistake and be careful before you posting.
We need more sharing, less argueling, particullally on hypocritical so-called moral hight. Thank you and good luck for fucking without condom with girls who agreed to let you do it.
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[QUOTE=AllForBb;2071689]Quote From Rainmania: "80-85% of my mongering in Korea has been BBFS / CIP, guess what, I've never needed to sneakily take a condom off. I ALWAYS agree with the girl before anything is done".
Even more dangerous.
If a prostitute agreed to let you do BBFS / CIP without a condom, she would agree to every other man to fuck her and come in pussy without a condom. "80-85%" time? You had better to check out your HIV status. LOL.
Good luck with your agreeing with the girls who let you, and let every other man to fuck her without a condom before you BBFS/CIP her (your words BEFOREHAND). LOL.[/QUOTE]Are you trying to be retarded and hypocritical or were you born that way?? LOL. You told him to check HIV status yet YOU are the one who want to go BB after sliding your condom off during FS hahaha you are such a poor YOUNG MAN.
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[QUOTE=AllForBb;2071690]Tell us a real number: how many real pussies you fucked in your life? The more we learn, the better in mongering life. Not other way round, young man.[/QUOTE]Less than 3000 but more than your teenage brain can get LOL.
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[QUOTE=AllForBb;2071734]Good. You are talking less about the moral issue. You realized you are an immoral monger too. LOL.
You are still in more dangerous situation though. As I stated below, I fucked a lot of girls, most of them, prostututes, with condoms. You, 80-85% without condoms. Quote from you "You base your stealthing on whether you 'feel' the hooker has lots of BBFS or not" . Did you read the last 2 pages of posts? I am the person who wanted to learn from the expert who shared his experience. I don't even know much how to do it, so keep asking, and need a "sex education" as LovinAsia said. No mistake and be careful before you posting.
We need more sharing, less argueling, particullally on hypocritical so-called moral hight. Thank you and good luck for fucking without condom with girls who agreed to let you do it.[/QUOTE]What the hell are you talking about?
You clearly think stealthing women without their consent or knowledge is not a problem, and I am trying to explain to you how big a problem it is not only for you and the girl, but for other mongerers in Korea as well.
I don't care whether you fuck a girl with one condom, two condoms or no condoms. Just MAKE SURE she agrees with you taking your condom off. That is HER CHOICE and her choice alone.
Please stop with the shitty mongering antics and advice. This country is already enough of a mongering desert as it currently is, no need to actively try to make it even worse.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2071736]Are you trying to be retarded and hypocritical or were you born that way?? LOL. You told him to check HIV status yet YOU are the one who want to go BB after sliding your condom off during FS hahaha you are such a poor YOUNG MAN.[/QUOTE]Let me make the points clear:
(1) I think, as KyleIrving said, if a girl offered or accept the offer BBSF / CIP easily, unsafe, because she might offer / would accept offer easily to everyone. Stop. In that sense, 80-85% agreed BBFS / CIP is not safe. Good luck if you want to do 80-85% or more agreed BBFS / CIP beforehand.
(2) Otherwase, relative safer than case (1) even as KyleIrving did. You do whatever you want including fuck without condom 85% time with girl agreed to let you do it (she sure let all other man do the same), it is your business. KyleIrving just shared his experience and opinion, which we should thank to.
This is the place to share info and experience. Not joking or augueing on hypocritical moral hight. We are all immoral mongers, no one here is a saint. BTW, I am over 60 and the number I stated is honorst true number. I am still learning.
This is my last post in this place. Period. I was out of Korea a week ago, and would not come back very soon. Good luck everyone. So long. Last word, I love Korean girls, some of them are so beautiful and delecious!
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[QUOTE=RainMania;2071667]Yes we are on a prostitution forum, not on a forum for tricking women into doing something they did not previously agree to do. You must think you're the only guy, or the smartest to have ever tried it.
You can try to play the dumb foreigner trick every time the girl notices you trying to stealth her, but one thing I've learned about the profession in Korea (and other countries) is that hookers talk, mostly to each other and sometimes to their pimps / mamasan. It's only a matter of time before you're pinned as the dodgy guy who tries to take the condom off without their knowledge.
And no, licking a girl's nipples without discussion / permission beforehand is not the same as stealthing her. If a girl had said at the start that she doesn't like her nipples being touched, and then the punter went on to deliberately touch / lick them. That would also be a shitty thing to do. With a condom, 99% of the time, the girl puts it on you, which means there is a mutual understanding between both of you on condom usage, so for you to take it off without her knowledge is you taking THAT CHOICE away from her.
80-85% of my mongering in Korea has been BBFS / CIP, guess what, I've never needed to sneakily take a condom off. I ALWAYS agree with the girl before anything is done, and if I ever get the feeling a girl doesn't want to service me I walk. It's that simple! The good thing about girls refusing tonservice you is you can be rest assured they aren't being forced and are doing the job out of choice.
The few times where I started CFS with a girl, and ended up doing BBFS, either I or she made the suggestion and the other party agreed. There have even been times when a girl agreed to BBBJ or BBFS and then tried to sneak a condom on afterwards during the BJ. Guess what, that's a shitty thing to do as well!
You can doubt my experiences all you want. My record here on ISG is there for all to see, and it only details about 20-30% of my experiences in Korea. I stopped giving advice here a long time ago because too many people in this thread are happy with paying KRW 300-500 k for vanilla sex and one shot (LOL). I imagine a lot of other experienced Korea mongerers who are still in country simply decided to stay quiet for the same reason as well, and keep their gems to themselves.
Good luck with your stealthing and overpriced pussy. As for me, I'll continue to get an understanding from my providers BEFOREHAND.[/QUOTE]I don't get how you don't understand this concept. You do something she doesn't like without asking. You don't ask to finger them. You don't ask to kiss them. You try and if they don't like it they tell you. I take it off then tell them it came off. And at that time it's their choice to keep going or stop. I don't get how you don't understand that concept. It's so simple.
And again, I literally can ask the multiple pros tuts on kakaotalk what they don't like about foreigners. It's always 1. Fat ugly fucks. 2. Larger than normal cocks. 3. They believe we carry foreign infections. And again, it's so hypocritical to insult my experiences then claim yours are far superior. In my ten or so times doing it, I have not once seen them get the slightest upset. You either don't do well with women or can't read them. You get a feel for how they act / behave and go from there. Like I said previously, if a girl clearly is not into it I probably won't even kiss them let alone sneak it off. And in my experience it has never once been a bad experience. Never once threatened. Never once kicked out. It's 100% a feel for the situation. I'm sure if I tried with a few, they would get mad and call their bouncer or whatever. The difference is as said before, you get a feel for women and what their personality in the thirty or so minutes you have to make small talk.
You know hookers so well right? LOL I'm sure you take one to dinner every week. If anything, they perfer me because I'm not a fat ugly fuck and in decent shape. More so that they actually message me to comeback randomly throughoit the week. I haven't managed to get discounts however.
And like you man, you have taught me to be selfish with my experiences. I was willing to make my oficeltell account be available for all to use to get in the 120 k-160 k full service with hotter Koreans and give their business numbers But nah I'll just keep it for myself.
At this point it's a he said she said deal. You say they hate it and it makes us look bad, I say they don't mind and it depends on the girl. My advice to anyone during any sexual experience is to read the situation. You can feel if your partner is into it. You can feel if she's not. Act accordingly and you'll be OK.
You say you quit giving advice because people are OK with paying to much. So how about not be an ass hole and share to help others out instead of talking down to everyone. You are such a pleasant person.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;2071739]What the hell are you talking about?
You clearly think stealthing women without their consent or knowledge is not a problem, and I am trying to explain to you how big a problem it is not only for you and the girl, but for other mongerers in Korea as well.
I don't care whether you fuck a girl with one condom, two condoms or no condoms. Just MAKE SURE she agrees with you taking your condom off. That is HER CHOICE and her choice alone.
Please stop with the shitty mongering antics and advice. This country is already enough of a mongering desert as it currently is, no need to actively try to make it even worse.[/QUOTE]Also by your logic of "fuck you all I'm keeping m info to myself and just read the forums. You can all pay 400 k imma stick to my secret gems of 120 k for FS. Hahaha. " why the fuck should I care about how stealing makes foreigners look when you yourself don't give a fuck about helping foreigners anyway. Amazingly selfish and hypocritical. Hypocritical in more than one sense at this point.
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[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2071736]Are you trying to be retarded and hypocritical or were you born that way?? LOL. You told him to check HIV status yet YOU are the one who want to go BB after sliding your condom off during FS hahaha you are such a poor YOUNG MAN.[/QUOTE]To be fair. Morality aside, BBFS with a girl who agrees and doing it 85 percent of the time as he claims is astronomically higher.
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[QUOTE=AllForBb;2071740]Let me make the points clear:
(1) I think, as KyleIrving said, if a girl offered or accept the offer BBSF / CIP easily, unsafe, because she might offer / would accept offer easily to everyone. Stop. In that sense, 80-85% agreed BBFS / CIP is not safe. Good luck if you want to do 80-85% or more agreed BBFS / CIP beforehand.
(2) Otherwase, relative safer than case (1) even as KyleIrving did. You do whatever you want including fuck without condom 85% time with girl agreed to let you do it (she sure let all other man do the same), it is your business. KyleIrving just shared his experience and opinion, which we should thank to.
This is the place to share info and experience. Not joking or augueing on hypocritical moral hight. We are all immoral mongers, no one here is a saint. BTW, I am over 60 and the number I stated is honorst true number. I am still learning.
This is my last post in this place. Period. I was out of Korea a week ago, and would not come back very soon. Good luck everyone. So long. Last word, I love Korean girls, some of them are so beautiful and delecious![/QUOTE]I like how they act like stealthily is so harmful to the woman. Yet are perfectly OK with fucking them when there's no way in hell the girls would want to if they didn't have to. Prostitution in general is taking advantage of girls who are at the end of their ropes and need money. If you cared about the girl themselves, then hire a hooker. Give her money. And don't fuck her since it's against her will.
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Dude, you just discovered Adal5 and you're so proud of yourself LOL. Maybe you should RTFF and see others, myself included, that have given names of Korean sites and instructions on how to join them, call establishments and make appointments. Everything from kiss bangs, to lip cafes, hyugaetels, officetels etc has been covered, but some dudes still come on here asking for the best hotel to stay at looool.
Keep your officetel numbers, I didn't ask for them, and I don't need them. I can sign up for any Korean mongering site and get numbers whenever I need. Like I said, there are too many people on this forum who ruin things for others, and you sure are talking like one of those people.
As for your 'feels' on whether a girl has STIs or whether she'll allow you to stealth her, keep stealthing and see what happens. Most girls don't give a shit whether you're fat or brad pitt, at the end of the day you pay the same rate as a fat, ugly guy but you're supposed to be proud of yourself for the 'connection' and because the girls call you to come back and pay them some more haha! Why don't you ask them for free service if you really want to test the 'connection' you have with them.
If prostitution is taking advantage of girls, then you're the one who's being taken advantage of. Since you're so happy to pay so much for one shot. Congratulations, you helped the pimp pay his rent and utility bills, maybe also his mortgage. But hey, at least you 'feel' the girl has no STIs and have a 'connection' with her LOL.
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Thank god all4 bb is gone.
KyleIrving: Stealthing will get you banned from Offictels. I know this because I'm Korean American and talked with the girls I've seen when I lived there. Some are OK with BBFS, others have straight up told me they tell their booker to blacklist guys for doing it. Don't mess it up for other people.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;2071953]Dude, you just discovered Adal5 and you're so proud of yourself LOL. Maybe you should RTFF and see others, myself included, that have given names of Korean sites and instructions on how to join them, call establishments and make appointments. Everything from kiss bangs, to lip cafes, hyugaetels, officetels etc has been covered, but some dudes still come on here asking for the best hotel to stay at looool.
Keep your officetel numbers, I didn't ask for them, and I don't need them. I can sign up for any Korean mongering site and get numbers whenever I need. Like I said, there are too many people on this forum who ruin things for others, and you sure are talking like one of those people.
As for your 'feels' on whether a girl has STIs or whether she'll allow you to stealth her, keep stealthing and see what happens. Most girls don't give a shit whether you're fat or brad pitt, at the end of the day you pay the same rate as a fat, ugly guy but you're supposed to be proud of yourself for the 'connection' and because the girls call you to come back and pay them some more haha! Why don't you ask them for free service if you really want to test the 'connection' you have with them.
If prostitution is taking advantage of girls, then you're the one who's being taken advantage of. Since you're so happy to pay so much for one shot. Congratulations, you helped the pimp pay his rent and utility bills, maybe also his mortgage. But hey, at least you 'feel' the girl has no STIs and have a 'connection' with her LOL.[/QUOTE]You've said your piece I've said mine. We can agree to disagree. I'm truly proud of you for being an experienced prostitute fucker. My experiences have been fantastic. Never once Rejected. Never once denied. Never once paid extra. Never once kicked out. Never once even yelled at.
So I'll do me and you do you. Have a lovely life.
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[QUOTE=NotherMonger;2071987]Thank god all4 bb is gone.
KyleIrving: Stealthing will get you banned from Offictels. I know this because I'm Korean American and talked with the girls I've seen when I lived there. Some are OK with BBFS, others have straight up told me they tell their booker to blacklist guys for doing it. Don't mess it up for other people.[/QUOTE]Don't worry, he 'feels' he has a good 'connection' with the girls, even though he has never gotten a discount.
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Just to go on a lighter note. Saw some web ads but confused on the codes used. Help!
Saw some officetal ads and girls had "+1" or "+3" etc next to their names anyone know what that means? I'm guessing "+3" means FS while "+1" is just a HJ?
Also, I'm confused on the difference between a Hyugatel and Anma. Both seem to offer massage and sex after. Is Hyugatel just done at a hotel offsite?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=RainMania;2072078]Don't worry, he 'feels' he has a good 'connection' with the girls, even though he has never gotten a discount.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2072350]Saw some officetal ads and girls had "+1" or "+3" etc next to their names anyone know what that means? I'm guessing "+3" means FS while "+1" is just a HJ?
Also, I'm confused on the difference between a Hyugatel and Anma. Both seem to offer massage and sex after. Is Hyugatel just done at a hotel offsite?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]The "indicates how much more on top of the "base rate" they are. Ex: standard 60 min might be 160 k KRW, then if a girl has +1, +2, etc you are expected to bring 170 k, 180 k, etc.
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MVP vip
The MVP-VIP referenced here is the one out of Gangnam station opposite that Paris baguette right?
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[QUOTE=RainMania;2072078]Don't worry, he 'feels' he has a good 'connection' with the girls, even though he has never gotten a discount.[/QUOTE]On that front, the girls probably do feel they have a connection; to his wallet.
Though, I also do overpay many times.
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[QUOTE=HeyyyyyyPaul;2072425]The MVP-VIP referenced here is the one out of Gangnam station opposite that Paris baguette right?[/QUOTE]I've sent you a PM with a literal map, heh.
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2072350]Also, I'm confused on the difference between a Hyugatel and Anma. Both seem to offer massage and sex after. Is Hyugatel just done at a hotel offsite?[/QUOTE]Pretty much, you'd have to contact them by phone or messenger to make the reservation and find out if the provider you want is available after which they'd give you directions to the hotel versus the walk-in nature of an anma, though you could also call ahead and ask if a particular girl is working.
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Thanks for the reply. So I assume higher tip means better service but what kind?
Ads don't say. So is there standard codeing? Like +2 means DFK and BBBJ? And a +3 tip means bareback?
[QUOTE=NotherMonger;2072408]The "indicates how much more on top of the "base rate" they are. Ex: standard 60 min might be 160 k KRW, then if a girl has +1, +2, etc you are expected to bring 170 k, 180 k, etc.[/QUOTE]
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Coding Clarified
[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2072514]Ads don't say. So is there standard codeing? Like +2 means DFK and BBBJ? And a +3 tip means bareback?[/QUOTE]Gents, I just decided to take a gander back in seoul forum since I used to work here and will be returning in the next few days for vacation. The +1 +2 +3 is no code. It is just an extra cost you will have to pay to get the girl as she is apparently good. Typically they are priced higher if they are popular with the crowd and sometimes they do offer extras but it will never be mentioned on the website and it is completely up to the discretion of the girl if she wants to go that extra mile with you. Having visited most Officetel where this coding system is normal, the ones that have +3 give more of a PSE while the latter might be super GFE. Don't take that into heart though, all of these girls are different and you might be lucky meeting a +1 and having the best time of your life, and payingi for a +3 and leaving disatisfied. Happy hunting.
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Add on
Sorry and to add on.
The below is in referene should there be a +1 +2 +3 next to the girls name. If there are other acts she performs, normally they will have a picture of what she does (HJ, BJ,CIM, BBFS, etc) or the korean word for it, and should the OP charge for those the price +xxxx amount will also be visible.
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2072514]Ads don't say. So is there standard codeing? Like +2 means DFK and BBBJ? And a +3 tip means bareback?[/QUOTE]Again, there is no "coding". I don't know why you asked twice. As I've mentioned, and as Gen X Baer said, it's on top of the base rate. If you can't find the base rate, then it's either directly in the ad, or you need to call / message them and ask. If you can't find it, then. Well, sorry. I can't help you there.
Also as Gen X Baer said, the + value does not necessarily mean more is better. The rates are up to the girls. I've seen +4 girls that were just OK in terms of looks and service while some +2 girls were much better. If you want a better experience, you need to talk to their booker and tell them the kind of girl you want in terms of body type, personality, etc.
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Thanks! Appreciate the clarification!
Going to check out this thai girl at a hyungstel! Will post with a report!
[QUOTE=SesameOil;2072462]Pretty much, you'd have to contact them by phone or messenger to make the reservation and find out if the provider you want is available after which they'd give you directions to the hotel versus the walk-in nature of an anma, though you could also call ahead and ask if a particular girl is working.[/QUOTE]
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Thanks! Will see if the ads say more. Anyway, going to try one!
Hopefully the girls look like their pics! Haha.
[QUOTE=NotherMonger;2072590]Again, there is no "coding". I don't know why you asked twice. As I've mentioned, and as Gen X Baer said, it's on top of the base rate. If you can't find the base rate, then it's either directly in the ad, or you need to call / message them and ask. If you can't find it, then. Well, sorry. I can't help you there.
Also as Gen X Baer said, the + value does not necessarily mean more is better. The rates are up to the girls. I've seen +4 girls that were just OK in terms of looks and service while some +2 girls were much better. If you want a better experience, you need to talk to their booker and tell them the kind of girl you want in terms of body type, personality, etc.[/QUOTE]
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Thanks!
I'll just try +3 girl. Figure might as well instead of +1. Hopefully she lives upto her tip! Haha.
[QUOTE=GenXBaer;2072540]Sorry and to add on.
The below is in referene should there be a +1 +2 +3 next to the girls name. If there are other acts she performs, normally they will have a picture of what she does (HJ, BJ,CIM, BBFS, etc) or the korean word for it, and should the OP charge for those the price +xxxx amount will also be visible.[/QUOTE]
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Filipina and Russian?
Where can I find Filipina or Russian girls? They seem non-exist on BP but I've been led to believe that they're so common in Korea and charge less.
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Russion girls are availble at offictels!
Was able to get an account on one of those korean sex sites using VPN and man.
Then variety offererd! Rates started around 180 for 1 shot and 290 for 2 shots in gangnam area like Seoollung or Yeaksam.
As for filipinas didn't notice any but did see thai girls.
Any setting up a account is easy. Just use google translater. Also.
When site ask for phone numbers and emails just use bogus ones!
I was afraid of using real ones since sex sites and took a chance and.
The site doesn't care or seem to ask to verify emails etc!
[QUOTE=Facebook2;2074910]Where can I find Filipina or Russian girls? They seem non-exist on BP but I've been led to believe that they're so common in Korea and charge less.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Facebook2;2074910]Where can I find Filipina or Russian girls? They seem non-exist on BP but I've been led to believe that they're so common in Korea and charge less.[/QUOTE]I am a Korean living in Seoul.
You could find Russian at following links.
It is just an info as I haven't visited yet as it is illegal and am afraid of get rested.
[URL]http://www.18sadan14.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=1_op&wr_id=8495&wr_6=%EA%B0%95%EB%82%A8[/URL]
[URL]http://www.18sadan14.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=1_op&wr_id=8307&wr_6=%EA%B0%95%EB%82%A8[/URL]
However one tip: the number after the girls name is extra cost (1 means 10 thousand won more).
As they are more beautiful the claimed and do not expect GFE or something.
Any question?
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2072350]Saw some officetal ads and girls had "+1" or "+3" etc next to their names anyone know what that means? I'm guessing "+3" means FS while "+1" is just a HJ?
Also, I'm confused on the difference between a Hyugatel and Anma. Both seem to offer massage and sex after. Is Hyugatel just done at a hotel offsite?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I am Korean and try to give a help.
Hyugatel = done in Officetel with lower price then Officetel (both are the same).
Anma = just road shop with sex and bath by the girl but more expensive.
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Info request
Hi everybody!
I'll be in Seoul next week and of course I would like to monger after working. Can you suggest me some nice and not very expensive places for massage and more? Or eventually any web sites to visit? My hotel will be in NAMDAEMUN area. Thank you in advance.
One more thing: are hotels there girlfriendly?
Greetings to all.
Patrick1.
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BBFS / CIP Recommendations
Can one of you fine gentleman PM me a few good options for BBFS / CIP in Seoul? I'll be staying in the Itaewon-dong area.
Greatly appreciated.
Handel.
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[QUOTE=Patrick1;2079302]Hi everybody!
I'll be in Seoul next week and of course I would like to monger after working. Can you suggest me some nice and not very expensive places for massage and more? Or eventually any web sites to visit? My hotel will be in NAMDAEMUN area. Thank you in advance.
One more thing: are hotels there girlfriendly?
Greetings to all.
Patrick1.[/QUOTE]I'll let others respond on the massage parlor question but can attest that pretty much all hotels in Seoul are girl friendly. You may want to find one that doesn't require a key card for elevator access but other than that you should be fine with any of the hotels near Namdeamun.
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Kaye. Happy Days.
Quick note to fans of Kaye, who works out of Happy Days on hooker hill in Itaewon. She is still around on weekends and still provides GFE service (YMMV); something not generally expected from working girls on the Hill. For those who don't know her, she is a mature provider, probably in her late thirties, but her body is in good shape. Treat her guys.
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Fish Anma
It's been a while since I've posted because I am only able to come to Korea intermittently. I'm Korean and speak Korean so my posts may have little utility other than entertainment value. As has been posted in the past Fish is a "non-foreigner" establishment which really means only Korean men are accepted. I'm not here to engage in long winded discussions as to why that is or whether it's right or not. That's the reality. Reading the signs on the wall they stress they do not have a website nor do they engage in spam advertising. And they don't need to.
I got there in the afternoon and was greeted at the door by a rather good looking MILF who looked like she could have great game today and probably worked the rooms in recent past. Even Lionel Messi will have to accept the fact he cannot play on the pitch and will be moved into management. Very customer oriented service and was given my key and led to the common locker room area that looks like an upscale public bath area. Men shower and lounge on computers, watch TV or smoke as they wait for their number to be called. Frankly being in that area made it feel like any male sauna other than the provocative photos of the women playing on the screen. I was taken into a side room briefly to pick out my girl with the MILF madame and to my surprise no iPad series of pics. It didn't matter since I know the pics are often photoshopped. Told her I preferred a girl next door type and was told to wait for my number to be called. They did and into the elevator I went. The male attendants treat you like a CEO and it is all business and professional. I got off the elevator and was greeted by a young female wearing a mask and a one piece black lingerie swimsuit like outfit. She took me into a small enclave and seated me. Minimal talking but I know the drill. Starts sucking my inner thighs, stomach and up to the nipples to get me hard. Then she begins to give head and goes around the bases again before turning around and mounting me. Now I wasn't able to see her outfit in detail because of the lighting but when she started to sit on my cock I was surprised she didn't move the crotch portion of her lingerie and I thought she was going to use my dick to punch a hole. There must have been a slit but away she began to fuck. It's not to completion but enough to give you a nice foreplay preview. She then led me down the hall to the room and back she went. This is the trademark service of Fish (unlike the new Eve / Start Anma).
Got to the room and it does feel like you're entering a studio apartment. My girl was gorgeous and was wearing a red cocktail dress. Conversation was nice although how substantive can it really get when you are imagining everything that is about to come? She disrobed me and offered me something to drink. Thankfully she doesn't smoke since I've had to sit through chit chat in the past with the girl puffing away. Her name is irrelevant since the girls at this place are all on par with this one: young, well proportioned and trained to treat you well. She got me to the bathroom area which has a seat that deliberately exposes your starfish ass hole. She washed me down (after all I had the encounter with the masked girl outside) and then sat me down. Then she applied the tasteless liquid gel and began to rub her body against my knees, thighs, crotch (no penetration) and upper body. Then away she went with BBBJ. She turns around and does this lap dance like manoever all the while I am grabbing her natural tits. No feeling that this is rushed. We wash off the gel and again talk about this and that. She tells me to lie down on the bed and I oblige. She then applies the gel on my back for some more nuru and kissing and sucking. The feeling is indescribable. I am then instructed to get on my fours like a dog so that she can go full rim mode. More BBBJ and then on comes the cover for girl on top action. I ask her to change positions and after some more bliss I blew my load. Now the difference here is that other places will treat this moment as the quick wrap up routine but not here. Rather she asks me to wash and relax again while offering me something to drink. She lies next to me and we continue our talk about nothing but enough to give it a people to people encounter feel. She then picks the moment to then go down and go BBBJ again. Because this is a place that lets you go twice. She managed to get me up and then was giving me probably the best hand job. Alas I knew my limits and conceded that while my mind wanted to take her one more time that the body would not cooperate. She was appreciative of my honesty since there are probably a lot of guys who will have the girl move heaven and earth for a second cum session. She let me know her work schedule even though she knew I was in Korea only for a while.
I went downstairs and changed. They don't rush you at all. If I wanted to lounge and order a ramyun it probably would have happened. Of course I didn't but on my way out the madame gave me the card which stamps visits for a discount on a certain next visit. She remarked that I caught her eye and she was specially giving this to me and I playfully told her to cut the bullshit she tells everyone else. It ended on a laugh but if given the opportunity I'd happily take her.
The irony is that I don't have a Korean passport and that makes me foreign but I'm not considered a foreigner. If you look Korean and can speak it with confidence you can experience this for yourself. Near Gangnam-gu cheong station exit 2. Go toward Seolleong Road (49440;47497;47196 and turn right and walk down two blocks. Then turn right (after passing Taco Bell) and walk up the road and you will see it on your right. 230,000 KRW. By far worth it.
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Any action in Dongdaemun?
Hi all,
Planning a trip to Seoul in the very near future and was reading over the forum here. It seems like most of the red light districts are based in Gangnam, Cheonho, Miari, Itaewon (Hooker Hill), or 588 (although 588 is apparently demolished now?
But is there anything around Dongdaemun? That's where I'll be staying, and I won't have much of a chance to leave the Dongdaemun area. Looking for FS preferably, but even a HJ massage place around that area during the daytime would be great. Any leads are appreciated!
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Optional;2085380]Hi all,
Planning a trip to Seoul in the very near future and was reading over the forum here. It seems like most of the red light districts are based in Gangnam, Cheonho, Miari, Itaewon (Hooker Hill), or 588 (although 588 is apparently demolished now?
But is there anything around Dongdaemun? That's where I'll be staying, and I won't have much of a chance to leave the Dongdaemun area. Looking for FS preferably, but even a HJ massage place around that area during the daytime would be great. Any leads are appreciated!
Thanks![/QUOTE]588 is demolished. I've seen it with my own eyes. RLD wise, Cheonho still exists (I was just there last week). I'm not sure about Mirari or Itaewon since I haven't been in a while. Gangnam has a ton of officetels, and there's at least 1 officetel near Dongdaemon. But you'll need to speak Korean to get in, and if your non-Korean, there's a chance they might not let you see any girls. I'm sure there's massage places nearby. Just look for the barbershop poles.
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[QUOTE=NotherMonger;2085811]588 is demolished. I've seen it with my own eyes. RLD wise, Cheonho still exists (I was just there last week). I'm not sure about Mirari or Itaewon since I haven't been in a while. Gangnam has a ton of officetels, and there's at least 1 officetel near Dongdaemon. But you'll need to speak Korean to get in, and if your non-Korean, there's a chance they might not let you see any girls. I'm sure there's massage places nearby. Just look for the barbershop poles.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. In regards to the barbershop poles. Is there any sort of visual "code" that tells you a particular massage place offers extras? For example, do the HJ massage places use a special color for their poles? Or is there no discernible way of knowing what's legit and what's not until you go in?
Thanks!
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I go by if it says "aroma" or "sports massage" in korean since that means oil massage
And then if price is 70,000 won then I know its a handjob place.
If 130,000 then blowjob place.
[QUOTE=Optional;2086011]Thanks for the info. In regards to the barbershop poles. Is there any sort of visual "code" that tells you a particular massage place offers extras? For example, do the HJ massage places use a special color for their poles? Or is there no discernible way of knowing what's legit and what's not until you go in?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
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I can re verify 588 is extinct. Miari and Cheno and Itaewon is alive and well.
Only thing I worry about Itaewon is while its easily available the incalls are mixed in with Transgender bars and clubs so afraid of getting some shemale with bulging package when you were expecting to touch some nice pussy.
[QUOTE=NotherMonger;2085811]588 is demolished. I've seen it with my own eyes. RLD wise, Cheonho still exists (I was just there last week). I'm not sure about Mirari or Itaewon since I haven't been in a while. Gangnam has a ton of officetels, and there's at least 1 officetel near Dongdaemon. But you'll need to speak Korean to get in, and if your non-Korean, there's a chance they might not let you see any girls. I'm sure there's massage places nearby. Just look for the barbershop poles.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Optional;2086011]Thanks for the info. In regards to the barbershop poles. Is there any sort of visual "code" that tells you a particular massage place offers extras? For example, do the HJ massage places use a special color for their poles? Or is there no discernible way of knowing what's legit and what's not until you go in?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Barber poles are your bottom tier establishments. Either it's just a HJ establishment or offer FS but only have older women in their 30's and 40's.
If the pole reads "49828;54252;51592; 마49324;51648;" (Sports Massage) or "49828;53944;47112;49828;" (Stress Clinic) then it's most likely just a hand job place.
The only way to know for absolute sure is to ask up front before the host or hostess takes you to your room. Simplest way, just politely ask, "Sex?" They will get it and reply with a 'Yes or No.'
Second tier establishments will have the word, '50504;47560;' (Anma or massage) somewhere and will be noticeably more upscale such as a reception reception desk, ATM in the lobby, vallet parking attendants and even a shoe shine service.
Top tier establishments will have no indication at all. Just a sign with their name, no 'massage' written or anything of the sort.
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[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2086150]Barber poles are your bottom tier establishments. Either it's just a HJ establishment or offer FS but only have older women in their 30's and 40's.
If the pole reads "49828;54252;51592; 마49324;51648;" (Sports Massage) or "49828;53944;47112;49828;" (Stress Clinic) then it's most likely just a hand job place.
The only way to know for absolute sure is to ask up front before the host or hostess takes you to your room. Simplest way, just politely ask, "Sex?" They will get it and reply with a 'Yes or No.'
Second tier establishments will have the word, '50504;47560;' (Anma or massage) somewhere and will be noticeably more upscale such as a reception reception desk, ATM in the lobby, vallet parking attendants and even a shoe shine service.
Top tier establishments will have no indication at all. Just a sign with their name, no 'massage' written or anything of the sort.[/QUOTE]Hey all,
Thanks for your input! Much appreciated. So for a first time visitor to Seoul who speaks no Korean, is an Anma or a RLD like Cheonho more accessible for FS? I am Asian (but not Korean) and I've mongered all over the world, so I'm not worried about a challenge. But would an Anma or an RLD be more accepting of a foreigner? I've read from these forums that a lot of places don't accept non-Koreans. And would an Anma or an RLD have cuter / younger girls?
I only have one day free (during the daytime) so I want to fully maximize my time. Thanks so much!
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[QUOTE=Optional;2086520]Hey all,
Thanks for your input! Much appreciated. So for a first time visitor to Seoul who speaks no Korean, is an Anma or a RLD like Cheonho more accessible for FS? I am Asian (but not Korean) and I've mongered all over the world, so I'm not worried about a challenge. But would an Anma or an RLD be more accepting of a foreigner? I've read from these forums that a lot of places don't accept non-Koreans. And would an Anma or an RLD have cuter / younger girls?
I only have one day free (during the daytime) so I want to fully maximize my time. Thanks so much![/QUOTE]This is not easy to answer because so much of Korea is not a guarantee when it comes to foreigners. I am assuming that you want to spend your time with a Korean woman so that takes out VIP in Gangnam.
Right off the bat, Cheonho is a no go. Shops will not even open unitl 8 pm and even then the selection is sparse. Prime time is from 10 pm -2 am.
Here my suggestion and by no means can it be considered cannon. I'd definitely go for the anma.
If you're really up for the challenge, try walking around the Nambu Bus Terminal (North of exit 6). There are a ton of anmas on that block (interior, not on the main road) but I cannot say for certain how many are open during the day or if they are foreign friendly. If you strike out then consider trying Ace Anma at Gangnam-gu Office (Line 7 not to be confused with Gangnam Station Line 2) and Hera Anma near the Renaissance Hotel in Yeoksam (Line 2). I know both of those establishments have day-shift girls but they tend to lean to the less hot side. Koreans call hotties "10%-ers" and they will work the more lucrative night shift. If you're still striking out and free in the late afternoon I'd take a shot at Texas Miari at Gireum station but that is way north of the river.
I wish I could give you answers with more certainty but I just can't. Again, those are only suggestions and I am far from an expert when it comes to daytime mongering and which ones will service foreigners. Man, I really hope you score. Good luck.
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[QUOTE=Anmadude;2080591]It's been a while since I've posted because I am only able to come to Korea intermittently. I'm Korean and speak Korean so my posts may have little utility other than entertainment value. As has been posted in the past Fish is a "non-foreigner" establishment which really means only Korean men are accepted. I'm not here to engage in long winded discussions as to why that is or whether it's right or not. That's the reality. Reading the signs on the wall they stress they do not have a website nor do they engage in spam advertising. And they don't need to.
The irony is that I don't have a Korean passport and that makes me foreign but I'm not considered a foreigner. If you look Korean and can speak it with confidence you can experience this for yourself. Near Gangnam-gu cheong station exit 2. Go toward Seolleong Road (49440;47497;47196 and turn right and walk down two blocks. Then turn right (after passing Taco Bell) and walk up the road and you will see it on your right. 230,000 KRW. By far worth it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great post, dude, which describes the Fish experience to a T. However, I am Chinese-American, speak no Korean (only English), and was able to access Fish with no problem on both my visits to Seoul. And clearly the mamasan who shows you the pics of the girls seemed to be fine with English-only clients. So, perhaps there is some leeway in foreigners?
R.
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[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2086558]This is not easy to answer because so much of Korea is not a guarantee when it comes to foreigners. I am assuming that you want to spend your time with a Korean woman so that takes out VIP in Gangnam.
I wish I could give you answers with more certainty but I just can't. Again, those are only suggestions and I am far from an expert when it comes to daytime mongering and which ones will service foreigners. Man, I really hope you score. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the suggestions ShimShimHeyo! I ended up with only one free afternoon, and I was in the Dongdaemun area, so I just walked around trying to find the shadiest looking massage parlour. It was actually not hard. I found one with a pink sign with the Korean characters for "massage". The pink sign was a giveaway.
Long story short, I just got a HJ, but the masseuses there seemed willing to give BJ, and maybe even more, as well. They were all wearing very skimpy outfits. Tight cutoff jean shorts for some, and others were wearing black lacey miniskirts. None of them were lookers. The ones I saw were in their 30's. But in any case, they were good enough to get the job done!
I should be back in Seoul again in the coming months. Looking forward to exploring more in-depth next time!
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Question about one shot vs two shot
I'm a bit odd when it comes to orgasms. I cum quickly, but stay hard, and can just keep going. I can cum many times in one session, and only really feel satisfied if I've cum 4 or 5 times. If I see a provider and pay for one shot, and cum while we just get started, will the session just stop right there?
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[QUOTE=Dtl9889;2088576]I'm a bit odd when it comes to orgasms. I cum quickly, but stay hard, and can just keep going. I can cum many times in one session, and only really feel satisfied if I've cum 4 or 5 times. If I see a provider and pay for one shot, and cum while we just get started, will the session just stop right there?[/QUOTE]Depends on the provider. Anmas in Korea generally give their girls a lot of leeway as to what they do and what they don't. Though it is unlikely a girl that you are seeing for the first time will let you get away with more than 2 shots, if a girl wants to let you blow off 4 or 5 loads, management could care less.
If you climax early, I highly doubt she will send you packing, especially if it's an upscale anma that charges you $200 +. I once went to Pearl Massage where the management specifically told me the rues. I could touch her tits and ass but not her crotch, blah blah. When I got my HJ, she grabbed my hand and put it down her panties. So, it is really up to the girl. The only thing management is strict on is time. For those who know, when that phone rings, it's loud.
They one exception is a place like Cheonho. If you only pay for a 20 minute ST and cum within the first 5 minutes, she might send you on your way.
I'd go to a place that offers relay service. You get 3 girls for an hour, 15-15.30. That's three shots right there.
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Korea and foreigners
Yes, the scene in Korea is definitely becoming more and more open to foreigners. This is both because of more international exposure and because of the economy (both the Korean economy in general and the night entertainment economy, which has suffered because of government / police crackdowns and changes in business entertainment rules). Even the formerly very private / exclusive room salons are more open to foreign clients, but you still need to have a Korean host who is connected and trusted to take you there. And these are still very expensive.
Doc.
[QUOTE=RTheMan;2087441]Thanks for the great post, dude, which describes the Fish experience to a T. However, I am Chinese-American, speak no Korean (only English), and was able to access Fish with no problem on both my visits to Seoul. And clearly the mamasan who shows you the pics of the girls seemed to be fine with English-only clients. So, perhaps there is some leeway in foreigners?
R.[/QUOTE]
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So how is the one shot vs two shot setup for an officetel? Is it basically do the one shot, wait for a bit, and then go again? I'm just wondering if I go quickly, but stay hard, if they'll just let me change the condom and start again right after. I'm hoping they'd still count that as one shot LOL. I know. I know. This hobby isn't for penny pinchers, but I'd rather pay for one shot vs two.
[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2088754]Depends on the provider. Anmas in Korea generally give their girls a lot of leeway as to what they do and what they don't. Though it is unlikely a girl that you are seeing for the first time will let you get away with more than 2 shots, if a girl wants to let you blow off 4 or 5 loads, management could care less.
If you climax early, I highly doubt she will send you packing, especially if it's an upscale anma that charges you $200 +. I once went to Pearl Massage where the management specifically told me the rues. I could touch her tits and ass but not her crotch, blah blah. When I got my HJ, she grabbed my hand and put it down her panties. So, it is really up to the girl. The only thing management is strict on is time. For those who know, when that phone rings, it's loud.
They one exception is a place like Cheonho. If you only pay for a 20 minute ST and cum within the first 5 minutes, she might send you on your way.
I'd go to a place that offers relay service. You get 3 girls for an hour, 15-15.30. That's three shots right there.[/QUOTE]
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Traveling to Seoul soon
Hey Everybody:
I'm going to Seoul soon for about a week and won't have much to do except taking in the sights. I tried to read up on this forum thread but it seems the last 4 pages were just people arguing about having sex raw haha. I read up on getting an adal5 account which I signed up for and I read up on Anmas. I'm very used to the type of K-girl escort service you get in the states which is borderline PSE and I'm curious what's the best way for me to get a comparable experience in Korea where these women are from.
I don't speak any korean and am a Chinese American. ALl the listings in adal5 confuse me and they all look fake anyway. There's no listing with real faces so I feel like I'm just shooting in the dark. Any recommendations would be appreciated and I will be sure to post reviews during my trip.
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Not going to find it here.
[QUOTE=LettiMmySmoke;2088968]Hey Everybody:
I'm going to Seoul soon for about a week and won't have much to do except taking in the sights. I tried to read up on this forum thread but it seems the last 4 pages were just people arguing about having sex raw haha. I read up on getting an adal5 account which I signed up for and I read up on Anmas. I'm very used to the type of K-girl escort service you get in the states which is borderline PSE and I'm curious what's the best way for me to get a comparable experience in Korea where these women are from.
I don't speak any korean and am a Chinese American. ALl the listings in adal5 confuse me and they all look fake anyway. There's no listing with real faces so I feel like I'm just shooting in the dark. Any recommendations would be appreciated and I will be sure to post reviews during my trip.[/QUOTE]If you are looking for an experience like you would get with Koreans in America, you are not going to find it. Read back further and you will find good reviews on anmas and rlds.
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[QUOTE=Dtl9889;2088932]So how is the one shot vs two shot setup for an officetel? Is it basically do the one shot, wait for a bit, and then go again? I'm just wondering if I go quickly, but stay hard, if they'll just let me change the condom and start again right after. I'm hoping they'd still count that as one shot LOL. I know. I know. This hobby isn't for penny pinchers, but I'd rather pay for one shot vs two.[/QUOTE]Again, it's all up to the girl. It's not like the management is going to be in the room with you.
If the girl wants to count it as one of your shots, she can. If she doesn't, it won't. Management only cares about time and turnover. Whatever happens in the room is mainly in the hands of the provider. I hope everything works out for you.
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[QUOTE=Phloppy;2088982]If you are looking for an experience like you would get with Koreans in America, you are not going to find it. Read back further and you will find good reviews on anmas and rlds.[/QUOTE]That blows my mind. Most of the k-girls are from Korea they don't even know that much English! I was expecting to travel to a land of them!
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WeChat
[QUOTE=LettiMmySmoke;2088968]Hey Everybody:
I'm going to Seoul soon for about a week and won't have much to do except taking in the sights. I tried to read up on this forum thread but it seems the last 4 pages were just people arguing about having sex raw haha. I read up on getting an adal5 account which I signed up for and I read up on Anmas. I'm very used to the type of K-girl escort service you get in the states which is borderline PSE and I'm curious what's the best way for me to get a comparable experience in Korea where these women are from.
I don't speak any korean and am a Chinese American. ALl the listings in adal5 confuse me and they all look fake anyway. There's no listing with real faces so I feel like I'm just shooting in the dark. Any recommendations would be appreciated and I will be sure to post reviews during my trip.[/QUOTE]My Chinese American friend here gets a lot of action here with WeChat, both paid for and free service with Chinese ladies.
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Girls
Korean girls may not be 100% authentic.
Girls from China have flocked to this city, speaks perfect Hangul and acts like a local Korea girl.
I find it hard to differentiate especially when plastic surgery is common.
Anyway, as long its a good shag, all is good.
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Officetel vs hyugetel
Just curious what the main differences are between the two. The photos of the girls from.
Hyugetels seem to be less glamorous but the prices are better. That's all I really noticed.
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Daytime and English
Looking for recommendations. I'll be in town for a short trip. I don't speak any korean (only english). I only have time in the afternoon, not at night. I'm not really into massage. Ideally, I prefer the kind of place where you can go pick out a girl (young skinny type is preferred), get down to business (BBBJ, CFS, CIM), then leave. I've read alot of mixed reports. Some about going to a club like place, others where you pick a girl out from a window.
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[QUOTE=Enphl;2090287]Looking for recommendations. I'll be in town for a short trip. I don't speak any korean (only english). I only have time in the afternoon, not at night. I'm not really into massage. Ideally, I prefer the kind of place where you can go pick out a girl (young skinny type is preferred), get down to business (BBBJ, CFS, CIM), then leave. I've read alot of mixed reports. Some about going to a club like place, others where you pick a girl out from a window.[/QUOTE]That's some hard criteria. The afternoon scene is kinda dead to begin with as far as young & skinny WGs go. Fishbowl shopping for a girl only happens in RLD's, which mainly operate at night. Bukchang style, .5 and 10% style room salons will let you hand pick a girl from a line-up but they will not likely take a solo foreigner and also only operate and night. On top of that, most Korean WGs will not give a foreigner a CIM a few won't even give a BBBJ. There are a meager handful. 5 & 10% style room salons that cater to solo foreigners but they tend to open at 6 pm or 7 pm.
Best bet is to try for an independent as they can work in the afternoon. However, a CIM is super hard to find. It's not impossible but the only girls that have ever let me CIM are girls that I have seen on repeat sessions or were from a. 5 style room salon (and those are crazy ass expensive).
Good luck, I hope everything works out.
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[QUOTE=Matong36;2089647]Korean girls may not be 100% authentic.
Girls from China have flocked to this city, speaks perfect Hangul and acts like a local Korea girl.
I find it hard to differentiate especially when plastic surgery is common.
Anyway, as long its a good shag, all is good.[/QUOTE]A good place to check out is the Mapo area. Tons of Chinese-Koreans moved into that area in the last few years and the parlors were not far behind.
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Kind of weird Hugetel experience.
I'm pretty familiar with escorts and hookers, but I've never mongered in Korea before. Live abroad. Been busy with meeting family and what-not, thought I could use a breather.
For a little background info, I'm Korean, in shape, 20's and mostly bilingual (speaking no accent, reading / writing is hard because IDK slang and hard words). Created an adal5 acc (thanks for the info ISG) and found something promising.
So after an easy reservation on the phone, I went to a Hugetel massage place for the first time. I opted for the "no massage" course, so straight to the action after a shower. 1 hour.
Pleasantly surprised, she's pretty hot. Skipping the useless details and small talk, foreplay is great, she's really wet, she gives an amazing BJ and then is just sort of awkwardly waiting around.
This is where, in other countries that I'm used to, she grabs a condom and we fuck. But she doesn't seem to be reaching for anything and I've never brought my own condom to see an escort before in my 20+ P4P experiences.
I'm sure you can guess what happened, I wasn't sure what she was waiting for. In hindsight, I obviously should have used words and asked her but she was hot and I was already ridiculously ready to go.
Just sort of got the vibe that she wanted bareback, went with the flow and fucked her without a condom. CIM. I always do a pretty good inspection during foreplay with anyone, so I'm not too worried but needless to say, it's %1000, the dumbest thing to do. Don't need a lecture.
So, do mongers have to bring their own condom in Korea? No, right? Having to bring your own sounds wrong but maybe stuff is different here, so I thought I'd double check.
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[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2090401]That's some hard criteria. The afternoon scene is kinda dead to begin with as far as young & skinny WGs go. Fishbowl shopping for a girl only happens in RLD's, which mainly operate at night. Bukchang style, .5 and 10% style room salons will let you hand pick a girl from a line-up but they will not likely take a solo foreigner and also only operate and night. On top of that, most Korean WGs will not give a foreigner a CIM a few won't even give a BBBJ. There are a meager handful. 5 & 10% style room salons that cater to solo foreigners but they tend to open at 6 pm or 7 pm.
Best bet is to try for an independent as they can work in the afternoon. However, a CIM is super hard to find. It's not impossible but the only girls that have ever let me CIM are girls that I have seen on repeat sessions or were from a. 5 style room salon (and those are crazy ass expensive).
Good luck, I hope everything works out.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice.
I guess I should mention that I'm chinese. Not sure if that gets me any points with being a foreigner. It's obvious I'm not korean since I don't speak the language. I don't mind independant, its just harder to setup with the language issue. Are there some local review sites or ad sites that are reputable? As for CIM, it usually isn't needed but I've had issues with tiny asian girls because I'm a bit wider than average so they either won't let me go too deep or it doesn't last very long so in the end they finish me off with BBBJ and I might as well get a CIM with it. BBBJ is a deal breaker for me though.
I'm in seoul for only 2 days so I may just skip it and try at my next stop (taipei).
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[QUOTE=KorBlueJay;2090451]So, do mongers have to bring their own condom in Korea? No, right? Having to bring your own sounds wrong but maybe stuff is different here, so I thought I'd double check.[/QUOTE]It depends on the girl. I've seen some girls in Korea that have straight up said to me that they prefer no condom. Other girls only offer CFS.
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[QUOTE=Enphl;2090578]Thanks for the advice.
I guess I should mention that I'm chinese. Not sure if that gets me any points with being a foreigner. It's obvious I'm not korean since I don't speak the language. I don't mind independant, its just harder to setup with the language issue. Are there some local review sites or ad sites that are reputable? As for CIM, it usually isn't needed but I've had issues with tiny asian girls because I'm a bit wider than average so they either won't let me go too deep or it doesn't last very long so in the end they finish me off with BBBJ and I might as well get a CIM with it. BBBJ is a deal breaker for me though.
I'm in seoul for only 2 days so I may just skip it and try at my next stop (taipei).[/QUOTE]Daytime activity is hard to come by as ShimShimHeyo said. Basically you're limited to Officetels / massage places but since you don't speak Korean Officetels are out. You could try CraigsL or BackP but I've heard those places are much more expensive and the quality of girls vary. And you won't be able to pick out the girl.
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Scene for Indian-origin.
Any recommendations for folks of Indian origin? Or is everyone the same if they are not Korean? Also, any recommendations for finding the hot Russian talent is much appreciated.
I read that some members can distinguish which agencies are fake. If they can share that knowlege, it would be great for the rest of us n00 BS. A PM of the best agencies to visit would be great. I am already planning to go to MVP VIP and Ace.
I am there for about 4 days, any other recommendations to try out?
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Russians girls adverise through officetel incalls
You will need use VPN and register with some korean sex websites like "adal5". Just use Google translater. Should be easy to register. But problem will be language barrier when you call. I would just call and be straight up and say do you accept foreignors till one accepts you.
[QUOTE=VDrohi;2091098]Any recommendations for folks of Indian origin? Or is everyone the same if they are not Korean? Also, any recommendations for finding the hot Russian talent is much appreciated.
I read that some members can distinguish which agencies are fake. If they can share that knowlege, it would be great for the rest of us n00 BS. A PM of the best agencies to visit would be great. I am already planning to go to MVP VIP and Ace.
I am there for about 4 days, any other recommendations to try out?[/QUOTE]
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Basically hyugetels are like anmas where you get massage and then sex but.
You do it at private incalls like apts while anmas do it at a site of business.
Officetls are just incalls with only sex. Not typical massage or oil massage etc like hyugatels.
So since hyungstel requies massage skills you get more of the mediocre looking girls since tbe hotter girls.
Are too lazy to bother learning massage. They rather just bang you and get you out the door for the next guy.
[QUOTE=Dtl9889;2090255]Just curious what the main differences are between the two. The photos of the girls from.
Hyugetels seem to be less glamorous but the prices are better. That's all I really noticed.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2091426]So since hyungstel requies massage skills you get more of the mediocre looking girls since tbe hotter girls.
Are too lazy to bother learning massage. They rather just bang you and get you out the door for the next guy.[/QUOTE]While looking up Hyugetel reviews on adal, I noticed most Hyugetels have separate massages. Usually old women or men, who know what they are doing. It's not usually the girl you fuck that gives you the massage.
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[QUOTE=LettiMmySmoke;2089116]That blows my mind. Most of the k-girls are from Korea they don't even know that much English! I was expecting to travel to a land of them![/QUOTE]This is actually very disappointing. We have amazing Korean escorts in Canada. I thought going to Seoul would be heaven.
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[QUOTE=SlowAndEasy;2091477]This is actually very disappointing. We have amazing Korean escorts in Canada. I thought going to Seoul would be heaven.[/QUOTE]Nope its a totally different scene here. Hard for short term visiting mongerers.
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This might help foreign friendly
[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2091940]Nope its a totally different scene here. Hard for short term visiting mongerers.[/QUOTE]Not sure if this is old news or not, but the following link has info for Foreigner Friendly Adult Establishments in Seoul: [URL]http://www.rokitreports.com/prostitution-foreigners-korea/[/URL].
LM,
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First timer questions.
Looking for answers to these questions. Tried to research some but no clear answers.
1) If you book a girl for the whole night, do you get unlimited pops?
2) What to do to avoid scams / getting pinched?
3) Looking for Caucasian / Latina only. Any tips or reviews?
4) Backpage- Legit or stay away?
5) Any other advice, thanks.
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[QUOTE=DriveAlive;2093668]Looking for answers to these questions. Tried to research some but no clear answers.
1) If you book a girl for the whole night, do you get unlimited pops?
2) What to do to avoid scams / getting pinched?
3) Looking for Caucasian / Latina only. Any tips or reviews?
4) Backpage- Legit or stay away?
5) Any other advice, thanks.[/QUOTE]1) Try negotiating with the girl or agency first before appointment is set. Typically they like to charge one pop per hour which in my opinion is a rip off. I only see her if she will allow at least two pops because the first one is always too quick.
2) Make sure payment and details are worked out before meeting.
3 & 4) Backpage is safe. It's all I really use aside from two massage spots I frequent outside of Seoul that offer FS for 120 krw with girls who aren't old hags. Also on Backpage, I've had Latinas who advertised on it and they were amazing. Hands down the best appointments I've ever had. One was a petite green eyed Colombian girl with freckles that looked European who left a few months ago and another was a petite Mexican girl who's actually still here. Both were in their early 20's, very clean / hygienic, GFE, skilled, spoke good English and had fun personalities. If you type "Mexican" into the search on BP you can find her real pics and all. Treat her well, she's very sweet. She has a new friend with her who's Colombian too it seems.
As for Caucasian you can find Russian and European girls but they seem to charge outrageous prices and the ones on BP use fake pictures. I've only been with one and that was last year. I found her ad by chance on BP. Her pics were real, the price was not absurd and the session was amazing. She left Korea and said she's not coming back. I almost met with another one who charged good prices but I had to cancel on her last minute for something and didn't get back to her. Very hot Euro girls pop up all the time though if you'll be in Korea for a while. This is not the country for short stay trips.
5) Korean condoms suck especially if you're on the bigger side. Not sure how well they fit "average size" men but for me they're too small to get on properly. Luckily I have access to American brands like magnum I can buy whenever.
Also, don't get ripped off. $300+ for an hour is pretty damn high. The typical hourly charge in Korea (still high imo) is about 200-220 krw. Don't be afraid to negotiate!!
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[QUOTE=Facebook2;2094677]3 & 4) Backpage is safe. It's all I really use aside from two massage spots I frequent outside of Seoul that offer FS for 120 krw with girls who aren't old hags. [/QUOTE]Anyway you could perhaps share the location and details of this place please?
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[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2089051]Again, it's all up to the girl. It's not like the management is going to be in the room with you.
If the girl wants to count it as one of your shots, she can. If she doesn't, it won't. Management only cares about time and turnover. Whatever happens in the room is mainly in the hands of the provider. I hope everything works out for you.[/QUOTE]My first officetel experience didn't go very well. I love Russian women so I went to a Russian officetel. However, the girl that I saw didn't match the description of the ad. I love tall curvy women, and she was petite. The girl I asked for was tall and curvy. She first complained about my size because I'm pretty big for a Korean. She was very petite and as soon as she tried to take me, I busted. She basically stopped the session right there and would barely touch me after. She told me about how one of the reasons why so many Russian girls are willing to go to Korea as working girls, is because they guys are smaller and it's easier on them. Seeing me, negated that benefit.
Anyway, I learned from my mistake and now go to a public bathroom before my session, and rub one out. I'll even cum during the session but the small amount of cum in the rubber goes unnoticed.
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Russian officetel
A few questions.
1. I called and visited two different russian officetels and I paid the same guy and went to the same apartment complex. Are they mostly the same business?
2. Both times, the girl I asked for didn't match the picture. Is that normal as well?
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[QUOTE=KorBlueJay;2090451]I'm pretty familiar with escorts and hookers, but I've never mongered in Korea before. Live abroad. Been busy with meeting family and what-not, thought I could use a breather.
For a little background info, I'm Korean, in shape, 20's and mostly bilingual (speaking no accent, reading / writing is hard because IDK slang and hard words). Created an adal5 acc (thanks for the info ISG) and found something promising.
So after an easy reservation on the phone, I went to a Hugetel massage place for the first time. I opted for the "no massage" course, so straight to the action after a shower. 1 hour.
Pleasantly surprised, she's pretty hot. Skipping the useless details and small talk, foreplay is great, she's really wet, she gives an amazing BJ and then is just sort of awkwardly waiting around.
This is where, in other countries that I'm used to, she grabs a condom and we fuck. But she doesn't seem to be reaching for anything and I've never brought my own condom to see an escort before in my 20+ P4P experiences..[/QUOTE]We are not required to provide a condom, it is usually provided. But sometimes an extremely hot one has tried to get me to go without one. I always have had enough willpower to stop her, but it is tough. You can imagine in such a mongering culture, such precautions are absolutely necessary (as anywhere).
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[QUOTE=Dtl9889;2095115]My first officetel experience didn't go very well. I love Russian women so I went to a Russian officetel. However, the girl that I saw didn't match the description of the ad. I love tall curvy women, and she was petite. The girl I asked for was tall and curvy. She first complained about my size because I'm pretty big for a Korean. She was very petite and as soon as she tried to take me, I busted. She basically stopped the session right there and would barely touch me after. She told me about how one of the reasons why so many Russian girls are willing to go to Korea as working girls, is because they guys are smaller and it's easier on them. Seeing me, negated that benefit.
Anyway, I learned from my mistake and now go to a public bathroom before my session, and rub one out. I'll even cum during the session but the small amount of cum in the rubber goes unnoticed.[/QUOTE]That sucks man. How big are you?
This is why I make sure to negotiate two shots because my size compared to the tightness of most women in this country makes me bust way too fast. Some girls don't want to bother enduring a round two and end it but some girls will at least give a massage or cuddle or even let you have a another shot.
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Russian officetel?
Dtl9889,
I love me petite Russian women! Can you share the info? Where was the oficetel located? Sharing is caring.
[QUOTE=Dtl9889;2095115]My first officetel experience didn't go very well. I love Russian women so I went to a Russian officetel. However, the girl that I saw didn't match the description of the ad. I love tall curvy women, and she was petite. The girl I asked for was tall and curvy. She first complained about my size because I'm pretty big for a Korean. She was very petite and as soon as she tried to take me, I busted. She basically stopped the session right there and would barely touch me after. She told me about how one of the reasons why so many Russian girls are willing to go to Korea as working girls, is because they guys are smaller and it's easier on them. Seeing me, negated that benefit.
Anyway, I learned from my mistake and now go to a public bathroom before my session, and rub one out. I'll even cum during the session but the small amount of cum in the rubber goes unnoticed.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dtl9889;2095121]A few questions.
1. I called and visited two different russian officetels and I paid the same guy and went to the same apartment complex. Are they mostly the same business?
2. Both times, the girl I asked for didn't match the picture. Is that normal as well?[/QUOTE]
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Seoul at Night
Seoul at Night.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgZkX1hngAQ[/URL]
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Tina Yang? Sarah Miehn?
Hey everyone? Does anyone know if Tina Yang is still around? A simple google search links old ads but nothing current. Sarah Miehn has priced herself out of my business unfortunately. Good for her if she can get people to spend 600 USD / HR but that is not for me. Quite a shame as her reviews are outstanding and I would have liked to see what all the fuss was about. Hopefully I can get some updated info on Tina Yang as she also had some good teviews.
Anything else going on in the seedier side of Seoul? I will be going on a mongering spree and am looking for recommendations. My mainstay used to be 588 but that is gone.
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[QUOTE=Phloppy;2098384]Hey everyone? Does anyone know if Tina Yang is still around? A simple google search links old ads but nothing current. Sarah Miehn has priced herself out of my business unfortunately. Good for her if she can get people to spend 600 USD / HR but that is not for me. Quite a shame as her reviews are outstanding and I would have liked to see what all the fuss was about. Hopefully I can get some updated info on Tina Yang as she also had some good teviews.
Anything else going on in the seedier side of Seoul? I will be going on a mongering spree and am looking for recommendations. My mainstay used to be 588 but that is gone.[/QUOTE]Last I heard, Tina Yang was somewhere in Tokyo. You're right about Sarah Miehn unfortunately, way out of what I'm willing to spend on one pop (or even multiple pops in one hour).
As you know, the escort scene is complete shit. There are escorts on massage republic offering CBJ and one pop for 300 k, tons of SE Asian girls offering one pop for 250+, white girls offering whatever number they can pull out of their arseholes with each new figure higher than the last.
I was talking to one Thai (or Cambodian) BP provider a few months back. I offered 250 k for 2 hrs and 3 pops, she agreed. Ultimately I couldn't meet up due to other commitments. Fast forward to September, her rates had changed to 1 HR 250 k for 1 pop, 2 hrs 2 pops for 350 - I'the rather fly to SE Asia for the weekend and monger to my heart's desire LOL, and I'the probably still have some change left!
Miari is still open, though most of the ladies are older and fatter than in the past. You might need to look harder for those gems there.
Cheonho is still running as well, though I haven't been there since the beginning of summer.
Suwon is still operational, tons of 3 D workers mongering it's be and see rows, so some of the better be and see row girls have become picky.
One interesting development is the semi-resurgence of hooker Hill. Minus the trans bars (some of those ladyboys do look good! There has been an inflow of younger, hotter girls too. Bean (an old favorite) is still there, slimmer than in the past but sexy thick as fuck and now wearing stockings etc.
Their attitudes on the hill have massively improved too. I must've went over 10 times this summer, mostly fucked Bean and 2 other girls near the bottom. I guess the threat of being ousted by trans bars does wonders for customer service. Damage 70-90 k depending on your negotiation skills. Make sure you agree on EVERYTHING you want before exchanging money, hill girls may be better behaved these days, but they'll still eat you up for breakfast if you allow it.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;2098722]
Their attitudes on the hill have massively improved too. I must've went over 10 times this summer, mostly fucked Bean and 2 other girls near the bottom. I guess the threat of being ousted by trans bars does wonders for customer service. Damage 70-90 k depending on your negotiation skills. Make sure you agree on EVERYTHING you want before exchanging money, hill girls may be better behaved these days, but they'll still eat you up for breakfast if you allow it.[/QUOTE]Thanks Rain! If you look back on my posts, I was a bit scammed by a hill lady based on my inferior negotiating skills and not telling her I wanted some time DATY beforehand. Lesson learned.
I will have at least one go on the hill as you stated, the quality has taken a turn for the better. I have never been to Suwon, so I might try that. I was very impressed with Busan Haeundae RLD and may trek down there, but I don't want to blow my mingering money on travel. Also, I will peruse the offerings at Cheonhoe.
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[QUOTE=Facebook2;2094677]1) Try negotiating with the girl or agency first before appointment is set. Typically they like to charge one pop per hour which in my opinion is a rip off. I only see her if she will allow at least two pops because the first one is always too quick.
2) Make sure payment and details are worked out before meeting.
3 & 4) Backpage is safe. It's all I really use aside from two massage spots I frequent outside of Seoul that offer FS for 120 krw with girls who aren't old hags. Also on Backpage, I've had Latinas who advertised on it and they were amazing. Hands down the best appointments I've ever had. One was a petite green eyed Colombian girl with freckles that looked European who left a few months ago and another was a petite Mexican girl who's actually still here. Both were in their early 20's, very clean / hygienic, GFE, skilled, spoke good English and had fun personalities. If you type "Mexican" into the search on BP you can find her real pics and all. Treat her well, she's very sweet. She has a new friend with her who's Colombian too it seems.
As for Caucasian you can find Russian and European girls but they seem to charge outrageous prices and the ones on BP use fake pictures..[/QUOTE]Hi, y
You seem to have quite the handle of things. As a noobie to the scene, I wanted to ask you two things:
(1) regarding the condom situation (I read one reply stating that condoms have to be prepared in advance but want to double check). If I set up an appointment through BP do I have to have my own set of condoms ready? (who am I kidding, I will probably just use 1) If it's an incall and I go to where the girl is, do I have to bring my own?
(2) Also, I'm really into mixed race (half Asian) girls. You wouldn't happen to have any advice on finding mixed girls other than waiting for a lucky post on BP, would you?
Thanks in advance.
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Itaewon to be demolished.
Just heard that Itaewon will be demolished soon to make way for apartments. Didn't believe it at first but then I searched online and it seems to be true. So I think we have to take advantage of the time we have now and have more than a great time.
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[QUOTE=HanSouloh;2099262]Just heard that Itaewon will be demolished soon to make way for apartments. Didn't believe it at first but then I searched online and it seems to be true. So I think we have to take advantage of the time we have now and have more than a great time.[/QUOTE]LOL. Itaewon is a big place. It has 5 sub-districts. There are redevelopment schemes in various degrees of pendency for a couple of them. One invloves the area to the east and west of the Mosque running south to the river. It is not finally approved yet, but may kick in next year. The main commercial and "entertainment" areas are unaffected.
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[QUOTE=Jaywalk229;2099128]Hi, y
You seem to have quite the handle of things. As a noobie to the scene, I wanted to ask you two things:
(1) regarding the condom situation (I read one reply stating that condoms have to be prepared in advance but want to double check). If I set up an appointment through BP do I have to have my own set of condoms ready? (who am I kidding, I will probably just use 1) If it's an incall and I go to where the girl is, do I have to bring my own?
(2) Also, I'm really into mixed race (half Asian) girls. You wouldn't happen to have any advice on finding mixed girls other than waiting for a lucky post on BP, would you?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]1) Typically the girl will have her own. Many of them aren't trying to go bareback. I highly recommend you get your own though. The condoms these women carry around are meant for Korean men and no offense but Korean men are very small. I learned my lesson last time I didn't bring my own and used the condom she provided. Escorts actually prefer if you bring your own if you're too big for Korean condoms.
2) I've seen some who advertise on BP but a lot of them use stolen photos so I wouldn't recommend. They swear they look similar to the girl who's photo they stole but I wouldn't chance it. Also, they charge insane prices. But other than that I'm not sure where else to find half Asian girls.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;2098722]Last I heard, Tina Yang was somewhere in Tokyo. You're right about Sarah Miehn unfortunately, way out of what I'm willing to spend on one pop (or even multiple pops in one hour).
As you know, the escort scene is complete shit. There are escorts on massage republic offering CBJ and one pop for 300 k, tons of SE Asian girls offering one pop for 250+, white girls offering whatever number they can pull out of their arseholes with each new figure higher than the last.
I was talking to one Thai (or Cambodian) BP provider a few months back. I offered 250 k for 2 hrs and 3 pops, she agreed. Ultimately I couldn't meet up due to other commitments. Fast forward to September, her rates had changed to 1 HR 250 k for 1 pop, 2 hrs 2 pops for 350 - I'the rather fly to SE Asia for the weekend and monger to my heart's desire LOL, and I'the probably still have some change left!
Miari is still open, though most of the ladies are older and fatter than in the past. You might need to look harder for those gems there.
Cheonho is still running as well, though I haven't been there since the beginning of summer.
Suwon is still operational, tons of 3 D workers mongering it's be and see rows, so some of the better be and see row girls have become picky.
One interesting development is the semi-resurgence of hooker Hill. Minus the trans bars (some of those ladyboys do look good! There has been an inflow of younger, hotter girls too. Bean (an old favorite) is still there, slimmer than in the past but sexy thick as fuck and now wearing stockings etc.
Their attitudes on the hill have massively improved too. I must've went over 10 times this summer, mostly fucked Bean and 2 other girls near the bottom. I guess the threat of being ousted by trans bars does wonders for customer service. Damage 70-90 k depending on your negotiation skills. Make sure you agree on EVERYTHING you want before exchanging money, hill girls may be better behaved these days, but they'll still eat you up for breakfast if you allow it.[/QUOTE]How many ladies will still do a decent BBBJ on the Hill? Is Candy still around and doing it in the ass? Any upbeat offerings for same services on the main drag or are they still overpriced bargirls hustling drinks and providing nothing in return?
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Bean still gives the best BBBJ on the Hill. The thing with her is she will almost always try to sneak in an extra charge during negotiations IF you don't tell her exactly what you want upfront first. For example, if you tell her you want a BJ and sex, you've already screwed up LOL. She will initially quote you 150-200, after which you'll negotiate down to 80-90. BBBJ wasnt in the initial demand, so now she'll insist on an extra 20-50 bucks for that (but she'll settle for 10). If you know how captain Barbosa from pirates of the Caribbean negotiates, it's very similar to how Bean does it.
Bomi of ambrosia comes a close second when it comes to BBBJ on the hill. Again, you'll have to make your requirements clear before reaching a deal and definitely before handing over any money.
There are 3-4 hot girls at the bar 2 doors down from ambrosia right at the entrance of the hil (I think the name is VIP), I rarely go there because a) they always quote the most ridiculous pricing, and b) even if you successfully negotiate to sub 100 k the service will be mechanical at best.
I don't venture up the road that is perpendicular to the hill (the one with king's) because I haven't needed to in a long time.
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[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2103013]How many ladies will still do a decent BBBJ on the Hill? Is Candy still around and doing it in the ass? Any upbeat offerings for same services on the main drag or are they still overpriced bargirls hustling drinks and providing nothing in return?[/QUOTE]Candy is still around, not sure if she is taking it in the butt anymore. I haven't asked. But she is a damn good experience. Always service with a small no matter what you do. She is at one of the bars on the main drag, perpendicular to the hill. The one near the Turkish bakery maybe?
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Tina Yant.
[QUOTE=Phloppy;2098384]Hey everyone? Does anyone know if Tina Yang is still around? A simple google search links old ads but nothing current. Sarah Miehn has priced herself out of my business unfortunately. Good for her if she can get people to spend 600 USD / HR but that is not for me. Quite a shame as her reviews are outstanding and I would have liked to see what all the fuss was about. Hopefully I can get some updated info on Tina Yang as she also had some good teviews.
Anything else going on in the seedier side of Seoul? I will be going on a mongering spree and am looking for recommendations. My mainstay used to be 588 but that is gone.[/QUOTE]Tina Yang has retired. She is living happily in Thailand with the money she made.
For a mongering spree, give Cheonho and Texas Miari a try. Of course there is always hooker hill in the Twon.
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[QUOTE=Facebook2;2099971]1) Typically the girl will have her own. Many of them aren't trying to go bareback. I highly recommend you get your own though. The condoms these women carry around are meant for Korean men and no offense but Korean men are very small. I learned my lesson last time I didn't bring my own and used the condom she provided. Escorts actually prefer if you bring your own if you're too big for Korean condoms.
2) I've seen some who advertise on BP but a lot of them use stolen photos so I wouldn't recommend. They swear they look similar to the girl who's photo they stole but I wouldn't chance it. Also, they charge insane prices. But other than that I'm not sure where else to find half Asian girls.[/QUOTE]Agree.
Korean girls will always bring condoms but you should have some of your own favorite brands just in case. As a courtesy, just hand it over to her before opening it. Some really appreciate inspecting it for any type of tampering. I know it's not a super big deal but it never hurts to let your companion know that you're thinking of her health and safety.
And yes, BP is full of scam photos. All I do is google search the images. You'll find that a fairly large number of these photos will be of 2nd tier Korean models, instagram girls and minor celebrities.
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Kissing room?
Can anyone guide me where I can find a kissing room or hug room in and around Sinchon / Hongdae area and also please drop in your experience and what is allowed inside.
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[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2103013]How many ladies will still do a decent BBBJ on the Hill? Is Candy still around and doing it in the ass? Any upbeat offerings for same services on the main drag or are they still overpriced bargirls hustling drinks and providing nothing in return?[/QUOTE]You plan on going to Korea? I'll be there for Christmas and will definitely hit up Bean. Let me know if you are looking for someone specific.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;2103445]Bean still gives the best BBBJ on the Hill. The thing with her is she will almost always try to sneak in an extra charge during negotiations IF you don't tell her exactly what you want upfront first. For example, if you tell her you want a BJ and sex, you've already screwed up LOL. She will initially quote you 150-200, after which you'll negotiate down to 80-90. BBBJ wasnt in the initial demand, so now she'll insist on an extra 20-50 bucks for that (but she'll settle for 10). If you know how captain Barbosa from pirates of the Caribbean negotiates, it's very similar to how Bean does it.
Bomi of ambrosia comes a close second when it comes to BBBJ on the hill. Again, you'll have to make your requirements clear before reaching a deal and definitely before handing over any money.
There are 3-4 hot girls at the bar 2 doors down from ambrosia right at the entrance of the hil (I think the name is VIP), I rarely go there because a) they always quote the most ridiculous pricing, and b) even if you successfully negotiate to sub 100 k the service will be mechanical at best.
I don't venture up the road that is perpendicular to the hill (the one with king's) because I haven't needed to in a long time.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update, you're the only consistent source for info on the Hill. I'll be there around Christmas for a week or so. I'm looking to meet Bean and a few others. BTW, you run into Kelly from Texas Bar? Someone said she was around but didn't know if she was still in the business. She's one of my ATF.
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[QUOTE=Garthie1;2104263]You plan on going to Korea? I'll be there for Christmas and will definitely hit up Bean. Let me know if you are looking for someone specific.[/QUOTE]Probably not but fuck a few at Miari in my honor. I'll be stuck in the ATL as usual. Would love to try out Bean someday. I saw her on the Hill in 2012 but she was a little too thick and gave me a sour look when I walked by so I never gave her a second thought. My favorite is still Candy. She's been around since at least 2004-2005. Plowed all 3 of her holes many times.
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How to locate Bean or Candy on the hill?
It will be my first visit to Seoul, staying in Itaewon area. Is there a recent RoD on how to navigate through or around the Hill?
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Hill BBBJ.
[QUOTE=RainMania;2103445]Bean still gives the best BBBJ on the Hill.[/QUOTE]Bean is good but I personally think that Kay from Happy Days is even better; and without the attitude you sometimes get with Bean. Kay is a bit older but IMHO has a nicer body and is more service oriented. Only downside is that she is only around on weekends.
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Directions to the place you have mentioned!?
[QUOTE=KorBlueJay;2090451]I'm pretty familiar with escorts and hookers, but I've never mongered in Korea before. Live abroad. Been busy with meeting family and what-not, thought I could use a breather.
For a little background info, I'm Korean, in shape, 20's and mostly bilingual (speaking no accent, reading / writing is hard because IDK slang and hard words). Created an adal5 acc (thanks for the info ISG) and found something promising.
So after an easy reservation on the phone, I went to a Hugetel massage place for the first time. I opted for the "no massage" course, so straight to the action after a shower. 1 hour.
Pleasantly surprised, she's pretty hot. Skipping the useless details and small talk, foreplay is great, she's really wet, she gives an amazing BJ and then is just sort of awkwardly waiting around.
This is where, in other countries that I'm used to, she grabs a condom and we fuck. But she doesn't seem to be reaching for anything and I've never brought my own condom to see an escort before in my 20+ P4P experiences..[/QUOTE]Where's the place (Hyuggetel you mentioned) located? Can you spare the directions? If so try to be accurate! P.S.: KB's are disappearing from Seoul!. There are some left, but in Silim area I knew 5 of them, now only 2 left! Good days are gone!
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Bean.
[QUOTE=Lion55;2106985]Bean is good but I personally think that Kay from Happy Days is even better; and without the attitude you sometimes get with Bean. Kay is a bit older but IMHO has a nicer body and is more service oriented. Only downside is that she is only around on weekends.[/QUOTE]+1 for beans location. She seems to be highly praised on this site and would like to see what all the fuss is about. I did see Lara this week on the hill and she is pretty great. She's towards the top on the right if going up, left if coming down at a room labeled Laura.
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[QUOTE=Lion55;2106985]Bean is good but I personally think that Kay from Happy Days is even better; and without the attitude you sometimes get with Bean. Kay is a bit older but IMHO has a nicer body and is more service oriented. Only downside is that she is only around on weekends.[/QUOTE]
Is that Happy Days Spa?
Or where? I will be in Seoul in a couple of weeks.
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Happy Days.
[QUOTE=Swpc10;2110032]Is that Happy Days Spa?
Or where? I will be in Seoul in a couple of weeks.[/QUOTE]Happy Days Bar on Hooker Hill in Itaewon. About 3/4 of the way up on the left hand side. Kaye is there on weekends. Bean works at the bar next door, going up the hill. I saw Kaye last night. Awesome as ever and still my ATF on the Hilll.
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Bean.
[QUOTE=Lion55;2110228]Happy Days Bar on Hooker Hill in Itaewon. About 3/4 of the way up on the left hand side. Kaye is there on weekends. Bean works at the bar next door, going up the hill. I saw Kaye last night. Awesome as ever and still my ATF on the Hilll.[/QUOTE]Did a quick Google maps and it looks like advent grand is next door. Does that sound correct? Also is there any particular time on the weekend bean works?
Side note, I've seen a few reports on other sites about police patrolling the area. Have Aly of you had experience with being in a police raid / american military police?
I've been to plenty other areas like Suwon, Anma, etc but the hill seems so sketchy to me.
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Another visit to Seoul.
Just returned from my annual pilgrimage to Seoul. Banged around Itaewon for the week with old friends. Hit the hill a few nights. Not much has changed there. Forgot to look for Kay on Saturday night. That was a mistake. She is always tops though I don't know where she is anymore. Anyway, ran into some of the "juicy bars" if that is what you call them anymore. Most were kind of quiet most of the week. Black Orchid had some nice talent and L'Ocean had a few as well on the weekend. Ended up mostly at Cecile- I just like the atmosphere there, classy place with good music and a good pool table. Sue is still there. Still has those great tits. Would love to check her out for take home one night. There were quite a few girls working at Celile. Some real lookers, others ehhh. I'm not sure if they play but a few were dressed for action so I think so. One was in a halter type dress so short there was little left to imagine. She was pretty aggressive so I'm guessing she is available. Long hair, nice tits!! . music was great and everyone was friendly. I kept trying to hit on Sue but no luck. So back to the Hyatt. Still some action at JJ's but nothing caught my eye. Ended up going back to the Hill for late night take home on Saturday. I was looking for Candy but could not find her so opted for another. Can't remember her name but had a good time. Of course she wanted 250 K. Negotiated down to 150 K for take home all night but it was late so I think she wanted one last deal.
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[QUOTE=SlickBack;2110367]Did a quick Google maps and it looks like advent grand is next door. Does that sound correct? Also is there any particular time on the weekend bean works?
Side note, I've seen a few reports on other sites about police patrolling the area. Have Aly of you had experience with being in a police raid / american military police?.[/QUOTE]The bar Bean works out of is called Deja Vu unless the name has changed. I've seen her there both on weeknights and weekends.
Yes there are sometimes police and / or MPs around but I haven't heard of any raids. The girls know when they are around and just keep their doors shut until the coast is clear.
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Christmas action.
Hi chaps,
I have the pleasure of being in Incheon for five days over Christmas. Was thinking of grabbing a hotel in Itaewon for a couple of nights as I remember having a lot of fun on the hill a few years ago whilst staying at the grand Hyatt. I imagine it won't be an issue, but can anyone confirm if on Christmas day it's business as usual on the hill?
Thanks.
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University Escort.
Friday night in Seoul tried Backpage engaged SiJu excellent time is the girl in picture. Not clock watcher. Anything on the table except anal, is very responsive to your actions and enjoyed the time as well as I did. W250,000 Would repeat.
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Can't access backpage for Seoul.
[QUOTE=TK4075;2112060]Friday night in Seoul tried Backpage engaged SiJu excellent time is the girl in picture. Not clock watcher. Anything on the table except anal, is very responsive to your actions and enjoyed the time as well as I did. W250,000 Would repeat.[/QUOTE]I can't seem to access backpage for Seoul in USA. I am coming next week to Seoul. Please help.
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[QUOTE=Handsomabe;2112404]I can't seem to access backpage for Seoul in USA. I am coming next week to Seoul. Please help.[/QUOTE]Try [URL]http://seoul.cracker.com[/URL] its the same exact thing.
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Fish or Ace.
Has anyone been to fish or ace recently? I went to fish last year and it was awesome. I'll be in Seoul again soon and just wanted to be sure either was still open. Thanks.
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[URL]Cracker.com[/URL]
This seems to be very popular for finding girls.
Any recommendations?
I know the girls are not as shown in photos but they are often pretty attractive?
Any recommendations?
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Business going slow?
Business must be going painfully slow again. Shame how that works when you price yourself out of the market huh.
No, cracker / backpage is NOT popular for finding girls. It is filled with the same 3-5 overpriced agencies who spam the site with fake ads, and practice nothing but bait and switch. Plus a group of the same tired independents looking for the next sucker to charge 300 k per shot for shit sex.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;2113864]Business must be going painfully slow again. Shame how that works when you price yourself out of the market huh.
No, cracker / backpage is NOT popular for finding girls. It is filled with the same 3-5 overpriced agencies who spam the site with fake ads, and practice nothing but bait and switch. Plus a group of the same tired independents looking for the next sucker to charge 300 k per shot for shit sex.[/QUOTE]Hahahahahaha.
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[QUOTE=Integ;2113260]Try [URL]http://seoul.cracker.com[/URL] its the same exact thing.[/QUOTE]You can't access it from the US either.
Once you are out of the US, you can access Cracker for the world.
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[URL]cracker.com[/URL]
[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2113890]Hahahahahaha.[/QUOTE]My experience with [URL]cracker.com[/URL] hasn't been great. First two times the girls were out after 35 minutes, third time I got an okay service so I sent the girl a tongue-in-cheek love letter, then requested another meeting but the price jumped from 250 k to 350 k an hour. Obviously had to pay extra for the emotion. When I tried to negotiate she said she could make more at the casinos as they were full of rich guys.
She said she had some girls but in three emails the price went from 270 - 280 to 300 for a girl who arrived with periods so I had to use my hand.
So I think its time for me to take my vows of celibacy again.
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[QUOTE=TK4075;2112060]Friday night in Seoul tried Backpage engaged SiJu excellent time is the girl in picture. Not clock watcher. Anything on the table except anal, is very responsive to your actions and enjoyed the time as well as I did. W250,000 Would repeat.[/QUOTE]150,000-200,000 will get you 2 stunners all night in Thailand- even Koreans know this and won't bite. Nice try though.
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New trend on cracker / BP:
Some providers are now changing their name. Ie no customers.
Many now do not put their price list in their ads. Ie sucker you into emailing them for their inflated price list.
That 'new' girl that has 'just arrived' from somewhere in SE Asia has been operating in Korea for at least 3 years.
Even officetels / anmas don't charge as much as this lot for one shot.
You can literally fly your own girl in from Philippines / Thailand for an all expenses paid 3-5 days long sex holiday (200-300 k flight, another 200-300 k for food / accommodation), without any extra cost. Give the girl an extra day or two to herself and you've spent less than a 3 HR cracker booking LOL.
I know because it works. Of course it takes longer for this method to work, but there are plenty of koreaboo SEA girls that wouldn’t give up the chance of a visit to Korea on someone else’s dime.
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Finally a good recommendation.
Although I've had some dismal services in Seoul, there is an all girl group organised by a lady called Lina, an ex-escort who has formed an all girl group who don't advertise for fear of intimidation from male agencies. She can arrange very attractive girls who give a good service. If you put the words:
I'm a new girl around here.
Into the [URL]cracker.com[/URL] search engine it will take you to her last ad dated Thu. 7 Dec, 14:10 where you can get her email.
I think they are the best possibility for beauty and service. The only good meetings I've had so far. Would give a good recommendation.
[QUOTE=RainMania;2115294]New trend on cracker / BP:
Some providers are now changing their name. Ie no customers.
Many now do not put their price list in their ads. Ie sucker you into emailing them for their inflated price list.
That 'new' girl that has 'just arrived' from somewhere in SE Asia has been operating in Korea for at least 3 years.
Even officetels / anmas don't charge as much as this lot for one shot.
You can literally fly your own girl in from Philippines / Thailand for an all expenses paid 3-5 days long sex holiday (200-300 k flight, another 200-300 k for food / accommodation), without any extra cost. Give the girl an extra day or two to herself and you've spent less than a 3 HR cracker booking LOL.
I know because it works. Of course it takes longer for this method to work, but there are plenty of koreaboo SEA girls that wouldnt give up the chance of a visit to Korea on someone elses dime.[/QUOTE]
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The current price mess in the Korean indie scene was partially caused by girls grouping together and collectively upping their prices out of greed. Therefore your attempts at touting your (or Lina's) agency is useless here.
200-300 k for one shot is an abysmal rate to be paying when there are so many other options available. Even girls in Dubai and Abu Dhabi don't charge that.
Your business model makes no economic sense. I'm an avid monger, I monger at least once or twice a week without fail. Therefore I have zero incentive to pay backpage / cracker rates when I can simply skip mongering for a month and use the saved money to either spend a weekend of debauchery in SE Asia, or bring the debauchery from SE Asia to me.
If I'm feeling particularly horny, I can make my way to hooker hill, miari, cheonho, incheon yellow house and other RLDs where I can blow my load for under 100 k won (70-80 mostly).
Here's a piece of advice. If you and the other girls want the good old days to return, reverse your prices to near what they were during the pre-bubble years. I'm talking 2012-13 when the average rate was 150 k won per hour and 200-250 for 2. If your egos are too big to do that, then maybe it's time to find another career.
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Fish: Second time is not the charm.
What a difference a year makes. My first time at Fish was totally cool. I think I paid 200 k, got to choose my girl and had the fluffer when I got out of the elevator. This time, they wanted to charge me 240 k (I talked them down to 220 k), you can't choose the girl, and no fluffer. The girl who met me outside the elevator kissed and gave me a BJ so I thought she was the fluffer, but she ended up being the chick I got. She turned out to be a really cool chick, and she had a great pair of fun bags, but she packed a bit of a cushion. And during the service in her room there was no warm water and no table for the all body tit wash. Cute face though so I wasn't totally disappointed with the chick. But the new system kinda sucked. Supposedly they are going to change Fish to a show pub or something like that. The chick and I were talking through a translation app so not sure if I got the info right.
But anyhow, don't think I'll be back to Fish again.
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Horrible experiences from cracker.
Must say my experiences on cracker have been terrible bait and switch, lazy girls massively overpriced, out after 30 minutes, sudden jumps in price, all the worst thing imaginable. Put me off for life, so I also wait till I travel outside the country.
I'd love to organise a boycott to bring down prices but I think that would be difficult.
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First time in Korea. Any recommendations?
Looking for hot ladies for BBFS. Hopefully not overcharged. Thanks!
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In total agreement.
[QUOTE=MrTarzan;2116014]Must say my experiences on cracker have been terrible bait and switch, lazy girls massively overpriced, out after 30 minutes, sudden jumps in price, all the worst thing imaginable. Put me off for life, so I also wait till I travel outside the country.
I'd love to organise a boycott to bring down prices but I think that would be difficult.[/QUOTE]Hear hear, in total agreement. I've also had lousy experiences I.
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Agree 100%.
[QUOTE=RainMania;2115294]New trend on cracker / BP:
Some providers are now changing their name. Ie no customers.
Many now do not put their price list in their ads. Ie sucker you into emailing them for their inflated price list.
That 'new' girl that has 'just arrived' from somewhere in SE Asia has been operating in Korea for at least 3 years.
Even officetels / anmas don't charge as much as this lot for one shot. .[/QUOTE]Totally agree. I have moved all my big mongering to SE Asia. The prices places are charging here is just stupid already.
I met a woman in Bangkok 2 years ago and we stayed in touch. She came to visit me in Korea for 4 days. I paid for her airfare and set her up in a dirt cheap hotel. I did this only to give her a place of her own and peace of mind but she spent the whole time with me at my place. Total cost (+ food and what nots) was about 500,000 won.
I spent a month combing through Phil dating sites. I was very open in saying that I'm only looking for fun and managed to set up 4 dates. Checked Jin Air and Jeju Air for specials. I've snagged a RT tix to Manila for a little over $100. Spent 3 nights there at a really nice hotel (a LOT cheaper if you want a budget place). 2 of the 4 dates fell through but managed to meet up with 2. One of them really clicked with me and she was more than happy to chill with me at the hotel, enjoying the pool. Never paid her a dime but I did treat her to all her meals and I took her along with me to a spa for a massage (worth it). Total cost for the trip was $700. But if you pinch, it could be even less.
She is planning on coming to Korea to visit when it gets a little warmer. This works for Thailand but I prefer the Philippines because their English is way better.
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[QUOTE=Handsomabe;2112404]I can't seem to access backpage for Seoul in USA. I am coming next week to Seoul. Please help.[/QUOTE]Due to the presence of sex traffic to the USA, any US IP will block cracker / BP. Use a VPN and bounce outside of the states. Or you just need to wait until you get here. But honestly not worth it.
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[QUOTE=Gatsbyx78;2117540]Looking for hot ladies for BBFS. Hopefully not overcharged. Thanks![/QUOTE]You find everything hugely overcharged in Korea and the service is generally lousy. Rather save your money for another place.
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Agree totally.
[QUOTE=ShimShimHeyo;2117617]Due to the presence of sex traffic to the USA, any US IP will block cracker / BP. Use a VPN and bounce outside of the states. Or you just need to wait until you get here. But honestly not worth it.[/QUOTE]Be prepared for pricey girls who give a shoddy service.
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My advice.
Organize a boycott to bring prices down? Hahaha why'all are Fucking delusional. In a country where probably 70% of the native male population visit prostitutes you think any one is going to give 2 shits if even the entire foreign population stopped using their services? We make like 1% of their market. Anyway.
If you're using backpage, or another site, and paying more than 100,000 you're fucked. Pun intended! Ripped off! Korea is s still the Mecca of reasonable priced Pussy if you know where to look.
3 options I will advice: 1 & 2 are okay. 3 is the best by far.
1) VIP Anma near Gangnam station. 120,000 one shot. Girls are usually Mongolian, Kazakhstan, Chinese, little older, not so hot, but do a good job.
2) Street perpendicular to hooker hill. Top of hill across from the foreign market. It's called Nymph. I forget the chicks name. Face is 90% plastic. Body is incredible! Can bargain a BBBJ down to 70,000. FS 90 - 100. She's excellent!
My final and best advice, from loads of experience, requires some Korean skills, but is a game changer.
3) Make a login ID for adal5 or sweetbam. You can search by location of Korea, are of Seoul and type of establishment. There are 1000's of places. I swear you're never more than 15 minutes from a Pussy shop in this country no matter where you are. It's insane.
Many places around Gangnam won't accept foreigners, but outside Gangnam I've never had a problem.
You can choose. Offictel with prices similar to backpage for FS. Not necessarily better. Kiss rooms. 30,000 for 30 minutes to make out and jerk off with hot university chicks.
Basically a happy ending massage for like 80 - 150,000. 1 hour massage + 1 or 2 hand jobs.
A blowjob shop. 15 minutes for 40,000. BBBJ CIM. These places are awesome! Always hot Korean chicks. Usually between 21 - 28. In, blow a load, out! No performance anxiety! My weekly guilty pleasure. Relay = 2 different chicks. 2 BBBJ. 70,000.
Is just like an anma. Girls in my experience hotter. Either only FS or massage and FS. You can choose your venue based on preference of girls. Korean, Thai, Russian, etc. Prices usually 80,000 for 49 minutes and up. I usually opt for 150,000. 40 mmm minute FS + 40 minute massage + 40 minute FS different girl. You can pay extra for anal at some places. 4 places I've been to I've the only foreigner who ever you visited. The girls are always awesome. Thai girls are always excited to meet a non-Korean and speak English. Great times!
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[QUOTE=Gatsbyx78;2117540]Looking for hot ladies for BBFS. Hopefully not overcharged. Thanks![/QUOTE]Good luck with that.
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Thanks for the great tip! I can't seem to find sweetbam. You mind giving the address for it?
As for BBFS, I get it all the time in the states. I would figure it would be easier in Korea.
[QUOTE=CasualFunSeoul;2117693]Organize a boycott to bring prices down? Hahaha why'all are Fucking delusional. In a country where probably 70% of the native male population visit prostitutes you think any one is going to give 2 shits if even the entire foreign population stopped using their services? We make like 1% of their market. Anyway.
If you're using backpage, or another site, and paying more than 100,000 you're fucked. Pun intended! Ripped off! Korea is s still the Mecca of reasonable priced Pussy if you know where to look.
3 options I will advice: 1 & 2 are okay. 3 is the best by far.
1) VIP Anma near Gangnam station. 120,000 one shot. Girls are usually Mongolian, Kazakhstan, Chinese, little older, not so hot, but do a good job.
2) Street perpendicular to hooker hill. Top of hill across from the foreign market. It's called Nymph. I forget the chicks name. Face is 90% plastic. Body is incredible! Can bargain a BBBJ down to 70,000. FS 90 - 100. She's excellent![/QUOTE]
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Seoul casinos.
Any take on what the casino scene is like for girls? I'd imagine very pricey but are there a lot who hang out there? Most of the casinos are only for foreigners I hear and are in Gangnam?
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[QUOTE=OscarMilde;2115344]Although I've had some dismal services in Seoul, there is an all girl group organised by a lady called Lina, an ex-escort who has formed an all girl group who don't advertise for fear of intimidation from male agencies. She can arrange very attractive girls who give a good service. If you put the words:
I'm a new girl around here.
Into the [URL]cracker.com[/URL] search engine it will take you to her last ad dated Thu. 7 Dec, 14:10 where you can get her email.
I think they are the best possibility for beauty and service. The only good meetings I've had so far. Would give a good recommendation.[/QUOTE]My experience with the all-girl agency. Lady in and out in 42 minutes, about 6 of which were in the shower, five phone calls, one at the hight of the session which had to be answered and a final incoming call for about a minute with an irate Korean man's voice coming through. Then rushed off. Also reminded after about 28 minutes of the time limits so basically no intention of honoring the full hour. Girl was decent looking though.
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I don't think anyone is talking about boycotting the average Korean hooker.
I, however, have been boycotting the independents that focus on foreign clientele. Korean mongerers are not their base market, we (foreign johns) are.
These girls take advantage of the fact that most foreigners are closed off from the local P4 P scene, so there are (or used to be) tons of desperate and lonely guys out there willing to drop ridiculous amounts for one shot.
99% of Koreans mongerers wouldn't touch these girls with a stick. Why should they pay 300 for one shot when they can simply call up any Officetel and get a 19 year old Kpop lookalike for 150-200?
These days, I blow my functional loads in RLDs. Just like Shim, I save the rest for my monthly / bi-monthly trip to Manila, Angeles, Pattaya or Jakarta. Or better still, flying girls from those countries to me.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;2117966]I don't think anyone is talking about boycotting the average Korean hooker.
I, however, have been boycotting the independents that focus on foreign clientele. Korean mongerers are not their base market, we (foreign johns) are.
These girls take advantage of the fact that most foreigners are closed off from the local P4 P scene, so there are (or used to be) tons of desperate and lonely guys out there willing to drop ridiculous amounts for one shot.
99% of Koreans mongerers wouldn't touch these girls with a stick. Why should they pay 300 for one shot when they can simply call up any Officetel and get a 19 year old Kpop lookalike for 150-200?
These days, I blow my functional loads in RLDs. Just like Shim, I save the rest for my monthly / bi-monthly trip to Manila, Angeles, Pattaya or Jakarta. Or better still, flying girls from those countries to me.[/QUOTE]Hear hear, well said, the cracker crowd focus on foreigners.
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It isn't just SE Asia where the prices are better. Japan is not exactly a paradise for foreign mongers and seems to be set up in a lot of similar ways to Korea. However, you can score a minor AV actress for an hour or two for the price of a bait-switch in Korea.
BTW, anybody any ideas what one should be paying for takeout all night with a hill girl? I know it's potentially possible to get freebies from them, but if one wants to cut through all the BS what should one be paying? I feel like they always go down in price, but I want to know what you guys have paid. Girls sometimes ask ridiculous prices.
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What do y'all think of the Olympics and the influence on 'the market' in Seoul and other cities?
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Do lip cafes have showers or do they just wipe you down before BBBJ?
@rainmania..which RLDs require you to shower first if any?
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Lip Cafes typically don't have shower facilities if they're in business premises. If they're situated in an apartment, you can ask to use their shower and they usually don't mind.
Cheonho girls require you to shower, as do girls in incheon yellow house. Miari girls don't require you to, but they don't mind if you use their showers, the same goes for suwon and the hill.
All massage joints / officetels / hyugaetels require you to shower.
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[QUOTE=Ready81;2117969]It isn't just SE Asia where the prices are better. Japan is not exactly a paradise for foreign mongers and seems to be set up in a lot of similar ways to Korea. However, you can score a minor AV actress for an hour or two for the price of a bait-switch in Korea.
BTW, anybody any ideas what one should be paying for takeout all night with a hill girl? I know it's potentially possible to get freebies from them, but if one wants to cut through all the BS what should one be paying? I feel like they always go down in price, but I want to know what you guys have paid. Girls sometimes ask ridiculous prices.[/QUOTE]It generally depends on how she feels about you and timing as well. If she's into you, a decent enough price would be 300-400 for the rest of the night, but it would have to be post-3 am when business starts to die down. Most girls won't go with you before then unless you're offering close to 1 mil. It's also better to try during weekdays when there is less foot traffic on the hill.
BYW a Korean club has opened at the top of the hill, so these days tons of younger Koreans venture up that area, especially on weekends.
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[QUOTE=ItIsMe83;2117993]What do y'all think of the Olympics and the influence on 'the market' in Seoul and other cities?[/QUOTE]Practically zero influence, at least for foreigners. Maybe some agencies / independents might try to open up shop there and charge premium fees, but there just won't be enough volume to register an impact.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;2118055]Lip Cafes typically don't have shower facilities if they're in business premises. If they're situated in an apartment, you can ask to use their shower and they usually don't mind.
Cheonho girls require you to shower, as do girls in incheon yellow house. Miari girls don't require you to, but they don't mind if you use their showers, the same goes for suwon and the hill.
All massage joints / officetels / hyugaetels require you to shower.[/QUOTE]Ok. I was just curious about lip cafes. Seeing that they give BBBJ, youd think theyd require guys to shower for both parties involved.
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The girls use mouthwash before and after service, as well as wipes on your cock.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;2118207]The girls use mouthwash before and after service, as well as wipes on your cock.[/QUOTE]I was hoping for showers. I guess that rules out ball action or rimming haha.
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[QUOTE=KimchiBoy;2117908]My experience with the all-girl agency. Lady in and out in 42 minutes, about 6 of which were in the shower, five phone calls, one at the hight of the session which had to be answered and a final incoming call for about a minute with an irate Korean man's voice coming through. Then rushed off. Also reminded after about 28 minutes of the time limits so basically no intention of honoring the full hour. Girl was decent looking though.[/QUOTE]Also had a lousy experience with this group. Amateurish, rushed and not good value at all.
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Incheon Yellow House.
So call me an idiot, but I've not been able to find out where the famed yellow house in Incheon is located. Here for a few days and its a long way into town and the Hill. Anyone shed any light?
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[QUOTE=Muppets;2120523]So call me an idiot, but I've not been able to find out where the famed yellow house in Incheon is located. Here for a few days and its a long way into town and the Hill. Anyone shed any light?[/QUOTE]Sungui station, exit 4.
Take the first right, you'll see the houses with yellow film on their windows.
Good luck!
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Yellow house.
[QUOTE=RainMania;2120885]Sungui station, exit 4.
Take the first right, you'll see the houses with yellow film on their windows.
Good luck![/QUOTE]Thanks dude, I found an old post with the same directions but was not sure if that was a different are or not. Off to town tomorrow so will try yellow house the day after. Is there daytime action, from say midday?
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[QUOTE=Muppets;2120900]Thanks dude, I found an old post with the same directions but was not sure if that was a different are or not. Off to town tomorrow so will try yellow house the day after. Is there daytime action, from say midday?[/QUOTE]I don't know about midday, but there's early evening to late night action (6-7 pm till 3-4 am).
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Yellow house.
So I found the yellow house in Incheon as directed. Arrived about 1830, everything closed and locked, eventually an old angry lady told me to come back at 2030. Too cold for that shit!
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[QUOTE=RainMania;2115427]The current price mess in the Korean indie scene was partially caused by girls grouping together and collectively upping their prices out of greed. Therefore your attempts at touting your (or Lina's) agency is useless here.
200-300 k for one shot is an abysmal rate to be paying when there are so many other options available. Even girls in Dubai and Abu Dhabi don't charge that.
Your business model makes no economic sense. I'm an avid monger, I monger at least once or twice a week without fail. Therefore I have zero incentive to pay backpage / cracker rates when I can simply skip mongering for a month and use the saved money to either spend a weekend of debauchery in SE Asia, or bring the debauchery from SE Asia to me.
If I'm feeling particularly horny, I can make my way to hooker hill, miari, cheonho, incheon yellow house and other RLDs where I can blow my load for under 100 k won (70-80 mostly).
Here's a piece of advice. If you and the other girls want the good old days to return, reverse your prices to near what they were during the pre-bubble years. I'm talking 2012-13 when the average rate was 150 k won per hour and 200-250 for 2. If your egos are too big to do that, then maybe it's time to find another career.[/QUOTE]Well said ma man! Very well said.
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[QUOTE=Ready81;2117969]It isn't just SE Asia where the prices are better. Japan is not exactly a paradise for foreign mongers and seems to be set up in a lot of similar ways to Korea. However, you can score a minor AV actress for an hour or two for the price of a bait-switch in Korea.
BTW, anybody any ideas what one should be paying for takeout all night with a hill girl? I know it's potentially possible to get freebies from them, but if one wants to cut through all the BS what should one be paying? I feel like they always go down in price, but I want to know what you guys have paid. Girls sometimes ask ridiculous prices.[/QUOTE]Soo-ae works at the Texas club, which is now at the bottom of the hill along the main Street. I asked if she stayed at the army base before and she said "yes, once for $1500". 😂. I laughed and she smiled. However, you can probably get it much cheaper on a slow weeknight. Once I had the chancefor about $200 with a nice looking girl, but declined since I don't care to spend a whole night with any one girl.
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Yellow House failed visit.
So after turning up yesterday at the yellow house and being told to come back later, around 2030, I went back in the end at 2300, about 50% were closed and of those that were open, none would let me in, so back to my hotel I went rather grumpily. Only saw three other guys around in the 15 or 20 minutes I spent wandering.