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agoodfella:
you seem to be very knowledgeable about the whole situation. I agree 100 percent to every statement that you have made. I couldn't find a more accurate representation of this crisis than you statement in this forum. You are definitely right. There is a big misconception about the presence of US servicemen in both korea and japan from the general american public. I sure that the korean or the japanese can surely defend themselves, but the presence of US troops gives them ADDED security-much like an airbag to a seatbelt-ultimately helping the region stabilize. However, I also understand why america does not want to pull it's troops out. By pulling out from the area, america would relinquish all it's geo-political influence in the region. And you are definitely right about China. A bigger threat than N. Korea is China. China definitely does not see US as a friend. It has always and always will seek an opportunity to bring down America.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by thor
[i]agoodfella-I've never understood why we still have armed forces in both S Korea, and more signifigantly in Japan some 50+ years after WW II, and almost 50 years since the end of the Korean conflict. There is no doubt that both countries can afford to defend themselves at this point. In essence, the US is substantilly subsidizing both countries economies, by providing this defense, for little current benefit. Lord knows, the US economy could use the stimulis that returning these billions of $ to the US would provide every year. Perhaps they would be more comfortable getting a "better" deal from the Chinese. I think not. [/i][/QUOTE]
What a load of bollocks!
Perhaps you really are "agoodfella" - but perhaps you are too young to even remember as far back as the end of the Soviet involvement in Afghanistan and the almost simultaneous removal of Soviet troops from East Germany and the Baltic States.
The sudden influx of troops into Russia, Ukraine and Belarus led to huge rises in unemployment. With nothing better to do, the Russian Mafia grew rapidly and fiercely. Soldiers of war became soldiers of crime. These people knew two things very well: (1) How to use weapons to scare the shit out of people; and (2) How to follow a chain of command.
The American economy is slowing down - no, NOT because of 9/11 (though, this will be blamed for EVERYTHING for ever more) - but because of the natural economic cycle aided and abetted by some rather strange domestic policies pursued by GWB. It is little wonder that he is seeking war with Iraq (second largest known oil reserves in the World) - wars always kickstart stagnant economies AND "Dubya" needs to maintain ludicrously cheap oil and gas prices at home, or risk losing the next election, in 2004.
Frankly, it helps, not hinders, the US economy, to have host countries picking up most of the tab for regional defence, whilst keeping all those men and women off the unemployment lines back home.
Now, can we get back to talking about the ridiculous cost of sexual favours in Korea?
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ho man, i think you were addressing Thor not me?
yoaming, glad to see i've got some agreement on this site!
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The clubs on the hill to the right are Fantasy club, Sun club, Paradise club, Sweetheart club and Club isisgebil and Club flower. Uni is at club flower she is 27 and works the bar she said she has another girl that works there but she's going to have to fire her because she's not really into her job. The club is really nice but rather small but it does have 5 private booths with high walls. My buddy went in today and had sex for 40,000 she tried to get 80,000 but he talked her down. Fantasy club is a nice club that I frequent, it has a nice small bar and a seperate bedroom in the back. There is only one girl that works there and I don't recall her name. First time I went there I paid 80,000 and she told me when I came back that it would be 60,000 next time. So the next time I went she saw me and my buddy together, then she only saw me. She asked where he went and I told her he went with the short lil ajuma that patrols the hill. Big mistake she said. Word to the wise never go with her. She says she has young girls for only 50,000 these girls are ugly and like 45 yrs old. Anyway she said that she would have done my buddy for 50,000 so I quickly put my money on the table and took her up on the offer. She said since it was holidays if I came back before christmas she would give me a discount, I stupidly went to dallas instead and my buddy ended up fucking her for 40,000. We have yet to try the other clubs but I assure you we will.
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Back to a sex question .. I noticed some outrageous price quotes for action in Seoul. I did go to Seoul twice, and had alot of fun in the massage places in the basement levels at 2 different hotels in the Itaewon area. About $100 US for an hour, if I recall correctly. It's been a year, so it may have been a bit higher, but not much. Are those places still going? If so, why would anyone pay $500-$700. Is it that much better? Can't imagine it. Looking for expert opinions! Thanks!
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Asiatraveler2...
US$100 is a little lower for that kind of place, but still you could expect a good service at around US$150.
US$700... It's the price I and another guy quoted for room salons, not for plain sex service or massage service. It's a completely different one, thus it still is worth going, I guess.
Daniel
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Asiatraveler2
[i]Back to a sex question .. I noticed some outrageous price quotes for action in Seoul. I did go to Seoul twice, and had alot of fun in the massage places in the basement levels at 2 different hotels in the Itaewon area. About $100 US for an hour, if I recall correctly. It's been a year, so it may have been a bit higher, but not much. Are those places still going? If so, why would anyone pay $500-$700. Is it that much better? Can't imagine it. Looking for expert opinions! Thanks! [/i][/QUOTE]
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Speaking of the Dallas club, anybody else have such luck with that place? The girl their isn't a fatty but is just big-boned (I swear!! It's not beer-goggles talking. Been there 10+ times). Nice big tits, loves to fuck, usually doesn't wear panties. Forget her name, never fucks w/a condom. Have to ask for it and she thinks it's like asking for a razor in a hemopheliac factory. I've bare-boned her a few times, and she's been there for at least a year and a half, if not more. Thats' a good sign right? No Aids?
Can anybody else comment on her?
Gracias,
Harpo
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Anyone who pays $700US for massage is out of their mind. There are far too many places in Seoul where you can get anything and everything your little head desires for far, far less.
Just to get an important point across, the United States maintains a forward deployed military presence in Asia because there are many in high places that remember that in the last 60 years we have fought one Worl War and two regionam wars in Asia, and that it is entirely possible that we will have to do so again in the forseeable future.
Having a significant militry presence in Asia serves exactly the same purpose as putting out a booby trap -- or a Claymore. When the trip wire is hit, it sets off the action. Having military forces in theatre is a clear sign of our national commitment to respond to military actions that we see as counter to our national interests.
It also serves two other purposes as well. First off, it is a significant inducement to host countries to purchase American made defense equipment -- not an insignificant political help in finding support for the DoD budget in Washington, and a real help in providing defense jobs at American factories.
Also, in a side effect seldom considered in the Halls of Congress or in the Pentagon, it provides the opportunity for new generations of American servicemen to discover the joys of LBFMs (Little Brown F***ing Machines) and the wonderful world of sex beyond the world of Mary Jean Rottencrotch.
Having a rich uncle, who sent me "for duties beyond the seas" was one of the high points of my life.
Randy
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aagoodfella
My apologies! That's what comes from not sleeping for two days!
Happy Christmas to all!
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Good Barber Shops in Seoul? Any solid information on barber shops near COEX area that offer FS at a reasonable price by young women, and not by 30 somethings? All my experience has been with women over 30 and average to ugly ratings on looks, even though the body was fine. thanks.
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good barbershops near COEX?
OK, bear with me on directions, it's a little tough to pin down.
The place is called Pinkle (like the singing group, one can only dream...) but is written only in Korean. However, the sign is all pink so that is an indication.
Stand in front of the door at the Starbucks in the Rodamco Tower (nr. Yeoksam St.) You'll be on a side street, not on Taehaeran-no. If you look straight ahead, you see another small street. Walk that direction. I believe it is only about 1 small block and the place is on your left. This is really back in the mazes of Seoul streets but worth your time.
I went and the girl was tall, thin, young and hot. Gave me a pretty good 30 minute massage in the barber chair and then indicated for me to follow her.
We went up a staircase to a bedroom with a yo on the ground. Stripped down naked for some good fondles and BJ, then full service. No shower but a good lay all around.
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randy farang:
$700 was for room salon. room salons are quite expensive, but the quality is unparallel. might have trouble going in if not korean though. I was only let in because of my korean friends, and also because I am good at pretending as a second generation korean-american. my good friend who happend to be white was not let in. I don't know if it had to do with anti-american sentiments, but for whatever reason, they were discriminating. Massage places like tuhki tang are cheaper probably around 170 dollars, but the quality suffers. and you can definitely get something even cheaper at barber shops or the rld, but the girls there are nasty and fugly bitches.
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Gameover, thanks for the lead. With regard to room salons, $700 is typical for three guys in a room with three girls, but no more than that. I was hosted many times in Seoul by a client-friend and consequently, I never paid anything for visits but the price mentioned is typical. After drinking and singing, if you want to take your girl to your room, it is additional $250. It is pricey but the quality of girls are very good, I would say in looks at least 8 or better and they are very tight in the southern area, which I love the most.
Since I was lucky to be accompanied by my client-friend who frequented this particular place behind the Star Tower, I was treated well. For instance, I tell the madam that I would not take anyone with me unless they stay for three hours or more or sleep in until the morning and always, I got what I asked for. Girls age range from 21 to 29; anyone over 30 is considered washed up and they probably end up in barber shops as they are deemed old. It is a cruel industry, I guess.
I have also been to less expensive room salons and would never venture to these places again as the quality of girls suffer drastically. It is not worth your money. Further, if you don't have someone who knows the establishment, especially as a foreigner, you will bet ripped off. Even if you are with a Korean friend and have never been to the room salon you are visiting, just pretend that you have been there before.
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Is there any Strip Club in Seoul?
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frankdoubt,
Strip Clubs are strictly illegal in Korea by law, but you could sometimes enjoy the semi-strip scene in clubs mostly beloved by the U.S. military people.
Pure Korean strip shows (completely nude) are available in the area of Pukchang Dong, Seoul. There are lots of clubs you could enjoy that.
Prices are a little high, but it's worth it.
Daniel
daniel_you@yahoo.com
[QUOTE]Originally posted by frankdoubt
[i]Is there any Strip Club in Seoul? [/i][/QUOTE]