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How to replace Zest?
Can one of you guys be so kind as to post the names/locations of establishments similar to Zest (often reviewed in this forum but long since gone).
Often called a fetish club but not sure if that is accurate. Anyway, I have heard there are many similar places but need to know where.
Hope there is a cure out there for my withdrawl symptoms (excuse the pun). And probably quite a few of you out there want to find a similar place?
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[QUOTE=Mar Deepack]I will be 1 week late January, and I ask your help.
1) there are place (bar. Hard rock.) where to find freelancer?
2) RLD I read a lot but I don't understand right way for to go, or name for to give taxidriver, can you give more information or map?
3) Itaewon is the only place where western man is ok?
Thank for help[/QUOTE]
1. My info might be outdated but the last time I walked by Hard Rock it was shut down, not sure if for good or what. The gift shop was still open though, but who wants to go there. Anyway, I remeber seeing some Russians and a Filipina once or twice when it was open, but other than that nothing really.
2. Search this forum for the different RLDs.
3. Sometimes it seems like it, but check out Gangnam, Hongdae too. If you have time stick you head into a double BBS place and see if they reject you. They're all over town, so it's just a numbers game, really.
My fuck it's cold here right now! I assume that's why the Seoul thread is so quiet, it's too cold to go outside.
My turn for a question: Does anyone know of any places that have Chinese women? My search on the forum turned up a BBS that had a half-chinese girl, but that was years ago. Anyone have any updated information? Maybe in Incheon?
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[QUOTE=Ezinho]My fuck it's cold here right now! I assume that's why the Seoul thread is so quiet, it's too cold to go outside.[/QUOTE]And the roads are really slippery. A lot of the snow on the roads and walk area have been cleared but it's still slippery. I feel like I'm going to sprain my ankles walking around and I almost fell a couple of times.
I checked the Cheongnyangni RLD few days ago and I checked out Yongsan RLD last night. There are several new girls at Cheongnyangni (the last time I went there was around mid December) and one of them was seriously fine especially body-wise. I was a little tempted when she smiled and waved at me to come play with her, but I wasn't feeling like doing any action that day. Once I'm feeling sexually active, then I will try her out for sure.
As for Yongsan, not much anything new in the A-row section but a lot of the windows were closed maybe due to the cold weather. They did however put up huge curtains on the entrance ways of the RLD which I think is a good thing and gives it a better look. Although I avoid the back alley B-rows, I decided to check them out this time just for fun. Majority of the ladies are old and not much of a beauty, but I did find 4 young girls that I thought were maybe A-row material and wouldn't mind having sex with. It was really dangerous walking around the back alley though since a lot of the snow hasn't melted on the ground as the sunlight can't reach there.
Not much of an action report but I just thought I should post this just to keep the thread alive. I too blame the damn weather.
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Low libidio
I agree, it's too damn cold to go mongering.
Wanna go back to Thailand.
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[QUOTE=Abuasian1]For RLDs, I think Miari is foreigner-friendly, but I really don't know since from all the RLDs in Seoul that is the only one that I have never been to. Another RLD that accepts foreigners is the B-row windows in the alleyways of Yongsan, where the old beat-up looking ladies are. The A-row with the young beautiful girls do NOT accept foreigners. Outside of Seoul, you can also check out the B-row windows of the RLD in Suwon as they accept foreigners too. I wouldn't recommend using the taxi to get there since the RLDs are nearby the subway stations.[/QUOTE]Not entirely true. If you're young and relatively handsome, the A' rows will sometimes try to get your money, especially if it's a slow night. Also, if you go out after business is slowing down many of them will accept. Korean skills are also an advantage with them.
I'd also like to mention that not all of the B-Row girls are hags.
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]I agree, it's too damn cold to go mongering.[/QUOTE]
I dunno; I cruised the hill a few nights ago and opening offers were down 30-50%. Market forces at work, I guess. Who dares, wins.
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[QUOTE=Ready81]Not entirely true. If you're young and relatively handsome, the A' rows will sometimes try to get your money, especially if it's a slow night. Also, if you go out after business is slowing down many of them will accept. Korean skills are also an advantage with them.
I'd also like to mention that not all of the B-Row girls are hags.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I take back what I said about the B-row girls. Prior to my previous post, I only checked out B-rows once and found it pretty disturbing after seeing so many old ladies. But after checking them out again, I was surprised to see several pretty ones.
Actually, I think I remember reading here that the A-row in Yongsan accepts foreigners but wasn't quite sure of it. During my session with one of the girls there, I asked if she accepts foreigners and she said no, so I just assumed all the other girls in the A-row doesn't accept foreigners as well.
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Report on Seoul
I have been in Seoul a few months, before coming to this city I was blessed with the luck of living in a city where sex industry is very active and provides good quality experiences.
Here in Seoul is different. I have tried the famous An-ma, the juicy bars, the hostess bar, the texas rld, yongsan rld, a barber shop close to my home and I have received in most of them an average wham bam thank you mam service. I have not found any GFE yet. There is a lack of sensuality en general. Most of them are not wild and not enjoy their job, as opposite as many escorts I have had the pleasure to meet in north-america and europe, or at least they are not good actresses.
The closer GFE experience I've found is in Yongsan RLD with the be row ladies, there are some good MILF quality there if you look well. Too bad the best women on Yongsan are not available for foreigners. They are really good looking ones in the A row. I cannot believe how they prefer to fuck a drunk old Korean labor worker than myself. Just because I'm not korean.
On Hooker hill I have tried almost all, if you are premature ejaculator this is your place, if not, you are going to have hard time, all the girls are asking you to 'cum baby cum' after 5 minutes. The best juicy bar I've found is the Texas bar on hooker hill, there is one thin korean, she is good.
The An-ma is classy but I good prefer a "just to fuck session" with one of the girls that work on the an-ma without the showering and the massage. I think 200$ is a lot for the service you get.
From the hostess bar you can get phone number and a date next day, probably even a fuck friend. It is very easy to get numbers from them and fuck them next day. For the ones looking for Russian, I can tell you to go to UN club, there are around 5 Russian hostess women there, good looking, late twenties and thirties. However in weekends in a busy place, lot of brothers, drunks, some fights per night, so take care.
Also we have the Rio club but that one is very boring and girls does not approach to you easily. I don't understand the system of that club. They don't seem to care much to talk to you.
I report more later.
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[QUOTE=MrMorrison]The closer GFE experience I've found is in Yongsan RLD with the be row ladies, there are some good MILF quality there if you look well. Too bad the best women on Yongsan are not available for foreigners. They are really good looking ones in the A row. I cannot believe how they prefer to fuck a drunk old Korean labor worker than myself. Just because I'm not korean.[/QUOTE]When it comes to RLDs, I think it depends on the girl whether or not you'll get GFE. My regular girl really treats me well (and of course vice versa I treat her well too) and we have a lot of fun when we're chatting (I'm fluent in Korean) and when we're having sex. We're also the same age (early 20s) which is also why we get along quite well, and the fact that physically I'm a pretty attractive guy and outgoing also benefits to this. This isn't really a GFE since I have never met her outside the RLD, but it's pretty close to it.
Other girls I have met in the RLD have differed when it came to GFE. Some of the girls I met didn't seem to be in the mood to talk with me when I tried to strike a conversation before or after sex. Other girls seem very happy when they're calling you, but once you enter into their rooms they're like robots and just want you to get your job over it and your money. But of course the girls got into this business for the money, not for the guys.
And from your quote, I don't think RLD girls fuck men that are drunk. They do fuck old Korean labor workers but if they're drunk then they won't let them in or even bother taking attention to them since drunk men can cause problems.
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Sale sale sale
Kimchi Warrior:
Heh, I got 20% discount from new regular on the hill, and she went twice the distance. "New face" at my Sinchon anma rocked me pretty well too. Looks like my libido is back.
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Any suggestions on shopping in Seoul
Hi,
I will be in Seoul on Wednesday. I have to buy my wife some nice jewelry. I was thinking of something like Tiffany but it doesn't have to be a brand name if it looks good and is good quality. Can anyone recommend a good place to go. I only have a few hours.
Also, on another note, is it possible to get a girl delivered to my hotel. I am a westerner. I will be staying in Seocho-Gu at a place called Provista Hotel. It is a 3 star hotel.
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[QUOTE=Abuasian1]And from your quote, I don't think RLD girls fuck men that are drunk. They do fuck old Korean labor workers but if they're drunk then they won't let them in or even bother taking attention to them since drunk men can cause problems.[/QUOTE]I can't imagine this is true. That would eliminate 99% of their potential customers.
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[QUOTE=Ezinho]1. My info might be outdated but the last time I walked by Hard Rock it was shut down, not sure if for good or what. The gift shop was still open though, but who wants to go there. Anyway, I remeber seeing some Russians and a Filipina once or twice when it was open, but other than that nothing really.
2. Search this forum for the different RLDs.
3. Sometimes it seems like it, but check out Gangnam, Hongdae too. If you have time stick you head into a double BBS place and see if they reject you. They're all over town, so it's just a numbers game, really.
My fuck it's cold here right now! I assume that's why the Seoul thread is so quiet, it's too cold to go outside.
My turn for a question: Does anyone know of any places that have Chinese women? My search on the forum turned up a BBS that had a half-Chinese girl, but that was years ago. Anyone have any updated information? Maybe in Incheon?[/QUOTE]A lot of Chinese girls work as "helpers" (do-u-mi) in norebangs. Walk into any song room and tell the desk clerk that you want some ladies to sing with you and they'll call up some girls. But they're not really for sex. You can probably get a decent feel up and some kissing if you give them some beer. Prices vary.
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[QUOTE=Abuasian1]For RLDs, I think Miari is foreigner-friendly, but I really don't know since from all the RLDs in Seoul that is the only one that I have never been to. Another RLD that accepts foreigners is the B-row windows in the alleyways of Yongsan, where the old beat-up looking ladies are. The A-row with the young beautiful girls do NOT accept foreigners. Outside of Seoul, you can also check out the B-row windows of the RLD in Suwon as they accept foreigners too. I wouldn't recommend using the taxi to get there since the RLDs are nearby the subway stations.[/QUOTE]Last time I went to miari it was really depressing. All the windows have thick curtains covering them and most of the houses are closed. The ajumas are super pushy and try to drag you into the nearest place before the cops come by. I think a developer wants to turn the area into another block of shopping malls and apartment buildings. I doubt its any more foreigner friendly than yongsan. Probably less so.
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[QUOTE=Nabbeun]I can't imagine this is true. That would eliminate 99% of their potential customers.[/QUOTE]Some girls ask a series of questions before letting you in. Condom? You drunk? Etc. But others don't care. And there's a big difference between 'drunk', which will keep you out of most places, and just tipsy or whatever.
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[QUOTE=Seoulstice]Then I'm all ears: What's the right venue for 40+ foreigners to meet non-p4p women here?[/QUOTE]There's a place called MOOL just north of shinsa station that you can find 30+ year old ladies. Or there used to be a cabaret across the street from their for older ladies. Probably costs about 100,000 KRW per head for a table and a couple bottles of crap whisky.
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[QUOTE=Sunlover]Hi,
I will be traveling for the first time to Korea and will be in the Bundang-gu area on business for 3-4 days.
I have RTFF, extensively, but I don't have a clue with regards this area and if there is any action nearby.
A few questions:
1. Does the Bundang-gu are have any potential for mongering? If so any suggestions on hotel, massage, bars etc greatly appreciated. I obviously speak no Korean and will be on my own
2. If not, I am fairly savvy with navigating in other parts of the world and could probably handle any sort of mass transit, would you have any suggestions as to an area nearby where I should stay to increase my chances for fun, and still be accessible to the Bundang-gu are for work.
Thanks to all for their contributions, if I have any success in my pursuits I will gladly post a report when I return.
Thanks in advance for any help.[/QUOTE]Just look for the big neon signs.
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Cops on the Hill
[QUOTE=MrMorrison]
On Hooker hill I have tried almost all, if you are premature ejaculator this is your place, if not, you are going to have hard time, all the girls are asking you to 'cum baby cum' after 5 minutes. [/QUOTE]
Very good report, MrMorrison. This part made me laugh because it's true, they really do rush you, but I think maybe one of the reasons they do this is because there was the crackdown on prostitution a while back in Seoul and I think the cops were walking up and down the hill at one point, checking the bars. So, perhaps the women want to rush you for fear of the cops knocking on the doors?
I'm not really sure what happened, but early this morning 4 am+ I checked out the Hill area and it was really dead, the vast majority of the bars (80%?) were closed, and there was a cop car with it's lights on parked in the middle of the Hill. I have no idea what the problem was but something like that can't be good for business. I went to see the girl that works at Nymph bar, 28 years old and beautiful body, but Nymph Bar was closed. Bar Ing next to it was closed too. The "Open" signs were turned off and everything. very odd. (and disappointing!)
I thought about venturing up the Hill again after the cop car left, but I didn't want to re-enact "The Crying Game", so I decided to head back home.
That was lame. I may have to break down and check out Belle tomorrow; it's been a year since I've been there. Does it still open at Noon? Does Nara still work there?
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[QUOTE=Ezinho]
I'm not really sure what happened, but early this morning 4 am+ I checked out the Hill area and it was really dead, the vast majority of the bars (80%?) were closed, and there was a cop car with it's lights on parked in the middle of the Hill. I have no idea what the problem was but something like that can't be good for business. I went to see the girl that works at Nymph bar, 28 years old and beautiful body, but Nymph Bar was closed. Bar Ing next to it was closed too. The "Open" signs were turned off and everything. very odd. (and disappointing!)
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My sense from talking to some of the girls is that business has been way off lately as a result of the cold weather and the season - a lot of the regular punters are off on home leave/holidays in December/January -- so the clubs open quite late, if they open at all (something they may not do early in the week)
Dunno about the squad car - it likely had more to do with the local knuckleheads at the newly refurbished and Koreanized King Club - but I'll ask my sources now that I'm back in Seoul. Spent a while with the Fillies in Cebu. :)
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[QUOTE=Blueseoul]There's a place called MOOL just north of shinsa station that you can find 30+ year old ladies.[/QUOTE]
Unless things have changed, they won't let in foreigners most times. And if they do they are adamant that you pay for a table and a bottle. I've had this BS pulled on me even when I was the only waeg in a group of Koreans. It's the only club I've had to deal with this BS outside of Gangnam and Apgu.
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[QUOTE=Coitus68]Unless things have changed, they won't let in foreigners most times. And if they do they are adamant that you pay for a table and a bottle. I've had this BS pulled on me even when I was the only waeg in a group of Koreans. It's the only club I've had to deal with this BS outside of Gangnam and Apgu.[/QUOTE]
This is just my opinion, but I'm thinking they're not necessarily making a foreigner pay up front solely because they're being prejudiced. It is possible that they might have had other foreigners visit. Then, when it came time to pay the bill, the foreigners might have complained because they didn't expect such a big bill and it was a headache sorting things out?... possibly
The other possibility is that some people (and it would be quite easy to do if you set your mind to it) skip out on their bill by sneaking out of the room separately. Anyone could potentially do that. But, in the case of foreigners, they really got nothing to lose because they don't need to go back. It might sound like prejudice, but so many people do crazy stuff when they're not in their home country.
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Certainly not everyone's cup of tea, but went to a fabulous RS called "Soprano". It is located in the Ramada Hotel in Samseong-dong, Gangnam. I was invited as a guest by local businessmen... so the usual heavy drinking with FS afterwards. The quality of water was fabulous (ie lots of very pretty faces and few with great realistic silicone implants)! But, more importantly, great attitude with almost anything available in and out of the room - touching, kissing, teasing, tickling, etc.
We had a great time. I don't know the exact cost as I was the guest, but a discreet question later suggests about USD $600 per person. As far as I could tell, this is for one shot! Plus 3 hours of drinking.
Way too much for my taste, but worth it when someone else is paying...
Now off to HK/China for the same thing, but for 1/4 the cost!
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[QUOTE=Zackary Kr]It might sound like prejudice...[/QUOTE]
...because it is prejudice.
What you're saying is, they are treating an entire demographic differently because of the (real, imagined, or assumed) actions of one or two. That IS the definition of prejudice (prejudice, as in "to pre-judge"). Stop making excuses for them.
As I said, outside of the Gangnam and Apgu clubs, I don't have to deal with such nonsense. Not even in Hongdae, where they routinely bar GIs (another example of prejudice).
No, wait, there was one other time in Jongro, too, but that was 10 years ago. I was the only waeg in a group of K-women (only guy, too, for that matter), and I was outright barred from entering. The dude was very matter of fact about it. The ladies could go in, but because I was a foreigner I couldn't. He actually expected that the ladies would leave me behind and go inside without me. Wrong. We left together and had a great time in the club right next door.
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White chicks
As mentioned before, Seoul has been pretty quiet due to the cold temperatures and snow on the streets lately.
I would like to know if any of you know any place in Seoul where I can find non-asiatic (white girls, european or american) providers? Yes I know I'm in asia and I should look for asian but unfortunately for me they are not my thing. Any massage? An-ma? Juicy bar? Window girl?
I just know the hostess bars I've mentioned before.
Thanks for the info
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[QUOTE=MrMorrison]As mentioned before, Seoul has been pretty quiet due to the cold temperatures and snow on the streets lately.
I would like to know if any of you know any place in Seoul where I can find non-asiatic (white girls, european or american) providers? Yes I know I'm in asia and I should look for asian but unfortunately for me they are not my thing. Any massage? An-ma? Juicy bar? Window girl?
I just know the hostess bars I've mentioned before.
Thanks for the info[/QUOTE]
Not sure what type of provider you are looking for. Not a provider, but some general hint:
There are tons of expat white chicks, tons of frustrated female teachers and the female expats coming to this countries from several white countries. They are per average not the tall slim good looking tall russian female provider, bat more general females of all tastes. European or american average kind of.
They are free of charge (what ever free is when you invite for some drinks) and hang around the normal hang out places where foreigners go.
The reason I say this: Their pussies are rather dried up and in desparate search for some dick to fill! Theguys have it to easy in this countries with regular Korean females - so the white females have problems to get some satisfaction. The longer they are here, the more they reduce their expectation.
Not sure if you look for this, but for a fuck - you can find rather easy and budget saving.
But I am the one who likes Korean/ Asian more. I don't need the white folks from home!
Regards
Brain666
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[QUOTE=Ezinho]Very good report, MrMorrison. This part made me laugh because it's true, they really do rush you, but I think maybe one of the reasons they do this is because there was the crackdown on prostitution a while back in Seoul and I think the cops were walking up and down the hill at one point, checking the bars. So, perhaps the women want to rush you for fear of the cops knocking on the doors?
I'm not really sure what happened, but early this morning 4 am+ I checked out the Hill area and it was really dead, the vast majority of the bars (80%?) were closed, and there was a cop car with it's lights on parked in the middle of the Hill. I have no idea what the problem was but something like that can't be good for business. I went to see the girl that works at Nymph bar, 28 years old and beautiful body, but Nymph Bar was closed. Bar Ing next to it was closed too. The "Open" signs were turned off and everything. very odd. (and disappointing!)
I thought about venturing up the Hill again after the cop car left, but I didn't want to re-enact "The Crying Game", so I decided to head back home.
That was lame. I may have to break down and check out Belle tomorrow; it's been a year since I've been there. Does it still open at Noon? Does Nara still work there?[/QUOTE]
You answer yourself the obvious. A police car parked at the hill will bring business down to some drinks at the max. Usually 4.00h am is a good time at wekends for business, but not necessarily at weekdays, at least not cold weekdays. But there are some none provider bars as well, so going there doesn't make you suspicious.
regards and monotor more
Brain666
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News of the Hill
Apropos the recent concern about a squad car parked in the middle of the Hill on an early morning last week the girls I know to converse with said nothing unusual was up. For what it's worth, in 15 years, I've never seen or heard of the KNP actually entering a juicy club except when they've been accompanying MPs from 2ID, and even then they never went inside but just hovered by the door while the MPs looked around. Nothing to fear from the MPs unless you're military; they know from looking at me that I was formerly, so they just nod politely as if to say "carry on".
Nadia, aka JungHwa, formerly of ING, has gone out on her own @ Moonlight on the Hill proper. She's got a new sidekick, too. Is offering very reasonably priced introductory specials. Carmex had an awful experience with her; I've had some very good BBJCIM from her but find her a bit of a fish to fuck. YMMV.
Cindy who used to work for YoungEun of Y.E., has returned to the life and can now be found at VIP, where she seems to have some managerial responsibility. She has slimmed down, A LOT, since last sighted. She was always a very accommodating SP, so perhaps she'll alter the atmosphere at VIP, which IMO has been a proper barracuda pool for a long time.
Business seems still to be way off because of the weather and the continued absence of a lot of expat businessmen on home leave so the lowball opening offer sale continues at most clubs - which means you can usually negotiate for even less ;) and that once you're committed some will try to wheadle for more .:( What's ne
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Ulsan
Could some body provide some info on Ulsan mongering, massage parlours etc,.
Thanks!
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Hyatt Streetwalkers
Passing by in a taxi tonight (Saturday), I saw 2 or 3 girls hanging out, individually, on the streets around the Namsan Hyatt. It's cold and they are obviously pros.
Later I did a reconnaisance mission and walked up to each one to get a closer look. More interesting from the taxi than from up close. "Sex, okay? " No, not okay, I indicated.
Just doing some field work for future reference and for the benefit of others here on the site.
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Hello,
I just moved to SK and I've been lurking here for awhile now. I went to the Yongsan RLD and saw what must be A row. There were blue curtains obscuring the entrance near the food stands and the women behind the glass were pretty hot. My question is, where is be and see rows? I heard they were behind A row, but past that is just a street and then more buildings. I didn't see anything that looked like it could be be or see row. Do these rows have windows like A row? I used the search function and looked throughout this thread. I found two pictures of maps, but they are so small I can't make anything out. Any help would be appreciated.
One more question. I've heard from many reports that the service provided here is very quick. Like they are asking if you are ready to cum after 10 minutes. I'm not trying to brag or anything, but I just can't finish that fast. Can someone recommend a place where the girls are not clockwatchers? How much would it cost? I'm not looking for Long Time service like in Thailand, but I don't want to be rushed after 20 minutes.
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[QUOTE=jimjim005]I went to the Yongsan RLD and saw what must be A row. There were blue curtains obscuring the entrance near the food stands and the women behind the glass were pretty hot. My question is, where is be and see rows? I heard they were behind A row, but past that is just a street and then more buildings. I didn't see anything that looked like it could be be or see row. Do these rows have windows like A row?[/QUOTE]While walking through the A-row, look to your sides and you'll see some dark alleyways. You will be able to see some pink/red glow in the alleyways. Those are the B and C rows. I think there are about 3 or 4 alleyways where the B and C rows are. And yes, they are windows like the A-rows, except the quality of girls aren't so great and majority of them are old ladies. I did find about 3 or 4 girls that were pretty good-looking recently though.
[QUOTE=jimjim005]I've heard from many reports that the service provided here is very quick. Like they are asking if you are ready to cum after 10 minutes. I'm not trying to brag or anything, but I just can't finish that fast. [/QUOTE]Is it really considered bragging? I can't finish fast either. I only have experience with window RLDs so I can only provide you info on that. I think it depends on your relationship with the girl. If you guys connect well and you're a regular, then I don't think there will be much of a "hurry" thing going on (but of course you have to finish in the approximate time limit), but this will be a very rare case. But I have no idea how B and C row girls are like since I've never done them. Are looking to get some action with the A-rows or B-rows?
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From what I read here, A-row is off limits to me, so I was looking for B and C rows. I was hoping there would be some milfs in B and C rows.
Are there other window RLDs besides Yongsan?
I was Itaewon. Some good looking Korean women asked me to come inside, so I know they at least accept waygooks. The service I get might be another story. I've heard mixed reports from these girls here.
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There are several other window RLDs in Seoul, but all of the A-rows do not accept foreigners. As for B and C rows, I think Yongsan will be the best bet. Outside of Seoul, you can check out Suwon's RLD, but the quality is way worse.
You should check out Miari's RLD. I heard they're foreigner-friendly and the girls are pretty. I've never been there so can't provide you on any info on that, but from my understanding, they're not really window-RLD. I believe the mama-san calls you in and you can pick whichever girl catches your eye.
Or maybe you should try out some anmas? It's very rare, but few of them might accept foreigners.
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Hooker Hill - Thursday night
I decided to have a go up Hooker Hill tonight after midnight.
First stop was Cheers, near the bottom on the left as you are going up. Of the three girls behind the door, one, Jin Hee, caught my eye so we went in to the bar to have a drink. W10,000 for me, W20,000 for her. Nice dyed brown hair, 24 years old, been working there a week, she said.
Jin Hee has lived in Canada, the UK, and California. English was great. Cute, nice little body and good creamy tits almost spilling out of her cute little black dress. I asked if we could go to a back room and she said she wanted to drink more first. I said thanks and moved on. Nice girl.
Then went a few doors up to Rosy, on the left immediately past Debut. Only girl working was Candy. 28 years old, been there 2 years, she said. An experienced pro. Clean, quiet place.
She was the only one working. She closed and locked the door after I entered, and sat me down on the sofa. We were tongue-kissing in seconds. She said it was W5,000 for my drink and (exposing her nice tits briefly) W20,000 for me. "Okay?" she asked. I consented.
We made out while drinking. I asked what her drink was and she said "pussy water." Ha ha. She started the bidding at W200,000 for sex. I wasn't interested. No problem. We continued to talk and flirt. Soon the price was down to W150,000. I was still not biting. When it got down to W100,000, I accepted.
We went to a sofa in the back. It was nice to get naked and make out at a nice, relaxed pace. I went down on her, she went down on me, we started in missionary, and I came in doggie style. It was maybe 20 minutes. Not long, but I didn't mind. I left a satisfied customer. Would recommend her.
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Then went a few doors up to Rosy, on the left immediately past Debut. Only girl working was Candy. 28 years old, been there 2 years, she said. An experienced pro. Clean, quiet place.
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Oh, she's a pro alright. She's been on the Hill for at least 10 years. But, except for short time, you did well; she's known as a barracuda. Of course, it can't have hurt that the winter sale continues at most places due to the continuing dearth of eligible punters.
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Need Help Finding Good GFE FS
Hi,
I'm a noob on this forum, but was hoping to get some help. I live out in Vancouver, Canada, and I'm visiting Seoul for the second time. On my first trip a few years ago, my cousin took me to 588, and a couple room salons (all his treat). Unfortunately he's no longer there, so I can't afford to go to the RS, and I didn't really like the RLD because the girls seem to want to make you cum as fast as you can, so you get the fuck out.
Anyways, the services in Vancouver, are so much better that what I got at the RLD, as we have tons of GFE here. There are tons of Koreans here as well, and they offer GFE too, so I'm hoping I can find something similar in Seoul, as the girls are definitely a lot better looking in Korea.
I read over 20 pages of posts, but couldn't find anything for good GFEs in Seoul. I'm Korean, but was born and raised in Canada, but I speak fluent Korean, so I can pretty much get in anywhere, so if anyone knows of any massage parlors or micros with good looking girls that offer GFE, it would be greatly appreciated! I'll be staying near Guhn-Dae (#7 line), so I'll be pretty close to Kangnam. BTW, I'm not looking to spend over $200 for a session, as I'd rather just hit up a cheaper RS for that price.
Thanks!
BTW, if you're ever coming to Vancouver, PM me, and I can definitely hook you up too.
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Found these two web pages that talk about the sex industry in Korea. Even though it seems to be against this scene, they give information any hobbyist would want, like quality of looks, prices, do they accept foreigners, etc. Can anyone confirm how accurate these reports are?
This one is on the different types of service available in Korea:
[url]http://cityglance.org/asia/korea/prostitution.shtml[/url]
This one is on four different RLDs in Seoul:
[url]http://cityglance.org/asia/korea/seoul/redlight.shtml[/url]
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[QUOTE=Vox Jox] Nice dyed brown hair, 24 years old, been working there a week, she said.
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Working there a week? Wow, seems like most of the women on Hooker Hill have been working there since the Reagan administration.
Joking aside, I went to Peach Phuzz and saw this Soo-Aee woman everyone talks about. Bought a drink and she showed me her body. She does have nice tits and ass, but her face isn't the best. Her prices were pretty high too and she doesn't seem to want to negotiate much. Very cold personality, even for a Korean hooker! Got her down to 40k for a hand job, but I can do that myself for free so I left.
Personally, I prefer the girl at Nymph bar a couple doors up; there's a girl there named Bi-something, 28, firm body and a nicer face than Soo-Aee. Willing to negotiate, too.
To the guy who wants GFE in Korea, here is what you do: take the bus to Incheon International Airport and get on the first plane to the Philippines. Read the PI thread and take it from there.
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Where is Yeongdeungpo RLD?
Hello, from California!
Gentlemen, I am on a business trip to Seoul in 2 weeks and have been told by a fellow monger to make a visit to the Yeongdeungpo Red Light District before it is closed.
So. Where is the Yeongdeungpo RLD located?
Please give directions in relation to the Yeongdeungpo Subway Station and the Times Square Mall/Courtyard by Marriott complex where I will be staying.
I have been told that almost all of the RLD's are gone and I want to try one out before they are history.
I want to relive my horny history from my time in Korea in 1968. Camp Casey; sweet memories!
Also, the locations of any close by massage parlors that are clean, with good looking women, fairly priced and will take horny americans will be much appreciated.
That's it. I will post a report when I get back. Wish me good luck.
Hung and horny Hank from Hawthorne.
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Yeongdeungpo RLD does NOT accept foreigners. As for the location, if you search this thread you'll find a map. It is the smallest RLD I have visited but the selection of girls are pretty good and they're very sociable.
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Advice Please. Thanks in Advance.
Hello, fellow mongers. Might any of you be so kind as to give a fellow monger some advice? If you were visiting South Korea for 36 hours, where would you stay? Where would you go? I live in Manila (over 20 years), so I'm looking for something truely Korean. Blind massage with sex after, barbershop blow job, things like that, not just the usual juicy bar which I have in abundance here in the Philippines. What part of Seoul would you stay in?
Thanks very much for any insights?
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[QUOTE=Abuasian1]Yeongdeungpo RLD does NOT accept foreigners. As for the location, if you search this thread you'll find a map. It is the smallest RLD I have visited but the selection of girls are pretty good and they're very sociable.[/QUOTE]I've been there and they have accepted me, and I'm foreign. To be fair, though, they are *more* accepting of foreigners on the street closest to the station, which isn't the glass houses, but still part of the RLD.
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Walking the Hill
I haven't been to these bars in a while. Years ago I had some good times with some old regulars at VIP, Tiger Tavern, Starbutts/ING (bosslady moved to Y. E. Lotus) and a couple others. I made a brief tour recently (2 weeks ago) and made some (expensive) connections at Apple and Cabin. Just wanted to pass on the info to those on the board, as a reference point. At this point, neither deal has been sealed, but it took only one return visit to get that far (hey, that's my style, I prefer to be relaxed and work my way in as a returnee. Hence the disclaimer that it was expensive.)
The girl in Cabin (she says she's half-Japanese, and she looks it) seems like a nice person when I met her the first time. I went in with a Korean friend, and when I had a drink with her at the bar, she wasn't wearing any panties under her dress. After drinking a drink with her and her one coworker she was fine with light touching. But that was it. We didn't talk prices. And she was taking care of another group of customers who came in after us. She did come back and forth, seemingly without any agenda to her credit. I didn't see her coworker again the next time I went (BTW she was more "korean" in terms of attitude, probably from a "talanjujeon" (?) but still nice to fondle. She commented I was gentle. Usually this is well-received, in my experience). On my second visit the first girl slowly clued in that I had been there before, and after 1 drink was willing to go at it with me on the couch in the bar for W150 000 twice. Thought that was a pretty good scenario, but I was due to meet up with a friend and I didn't stay. I don't know if business is really that slow, but when I went back the next night around midnight the outer door was closed and locked. The sign was on so maybe she was busy?
Next to Cabin is Apple, with Inna and Sunmi. The first visit I had was with Inna, in the small booth at the side of the bar. I bought her 3 drinks in total, DFK, got her panties off for some DATY (she is almost shaved) and spent some time shooting the sh! T. She said she likes to drink, and she told me I could buy a bottle of Jager for W150 000 and drink it with them, no other lady drinks needed. Obviously I wouldn't have been an exlcusive customer, but I don't think it is such a bad idea (maybe with whisky) She started at W200 000 for sex, and ended up offering me W100 000 in the bar after that. She also tried to get me to buy drinks for Sunmi. There was one customer who came in shortly after me, and he was asking about taking a girl out, for about 6 hrs. Mama-san told him that it was W200 000/hr. Inna was difficult to walk away from. Not a looker, but a nice body with good fake tits. Wonder if she will be fun in bed? When I went back to see her, I was told she was dead drunk and sleeping in the booth (this was at 1am. Seem to remember someone else mentioned that she was a good catch when you can get her just before she reaches that stage, which she tends to do!) I sat with Sunmi, and kept my promise to buy her a couple of drinks. She spoke pretty good English, and is completely shaved. She mentioned that she gives the best BJ in Itaewon, and Mama-san suggested that I go with her to their room for W200 000. I declined, telling them I would wait for Inna. BUT when I went back the next night (3rd visit, the SAME night I went to Cabin. It was a Monday) Apple was locked too. Sign was on, outer door locked. (Was there some crazy party going on that I wasn't invited to?) So I remain unfulfilled, a bit emptier in the pocket, but all in all not a bad time. And in my experience this kind of legwork sets you up well enough for the future.
BTW I didn't visit on a weekend; first visit to both places was on a Wednesday, then Sunday, then the Monday.
Other recent ventures:
Y. E. Lotus she says that she doesn't go with many customers any more, but she was working alone that night and I got her naked inside her bar (she says she also doesn't do that anymore, or BJs.) But I got a few dabs bareback doggy and as she lay on a barstool. For her I really think its YMMV, but she looks pretty damn good still. She said I could take her out to a motel for W200 000. Who knows how long she would have stayed, or how many rounds she would have done. Please use this situation for reference only. I believe her when she says that she isn't quite as "active" any more, but see how it goes eh?
Ambrosia (or whichever bar is just up from VIP). The tallish, kinda curvy girl who works there is likely post-op based on mannerisms. She really overdoes it. She was talking about blowjobs and anal for W200 000 as well. I declined. Good, friendly attitude, not very flexible on prices, just in case you were interested.
And if there is a party on the Hill, hit me up! To some of the new regulars I see on here, by all means let us rendez-vous. Like Eric B. Said, I'm paid in full. PM me. Happy Hunting fellas!
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[QUOTE=Ilandman]I haven't been to these bars in a while.
Good, friendly attitude, not very flexible on prices, just in case you were interested.
And if there is a party on the Hill, hit me up! To some of the new regulars I see on here, by all means let us rendez-vous. Like Eric B. Said, I'm paid in full. PM me. Happy Hunting fellas!
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Anma help...
Since I heard about Anmas, I've been fantasizing about going to one. I'll be traveling to South Korea in a month and I'm hoping someone could direct me to a foreigner friendly Anma in Suwon or Seoul. I'm specifically looking for where the girl bathes you, then massages you with a happy ending (hoping for BBBJ.)
From the sounds of it, the barbershops are basically rub and tugs. I'm loving the sound of Anmas (or at least what I'm picturing in my head!)
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!
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Itaewon Daytime Action
Is it worth visiting Itaewon RLD during daytime or is it totally closed for mongering activities? I am visiting for a couple of days but will not have any chance to visit during nights.
[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior] Most SP are back in harness from Tuesday on for the full service period, which generally runs from 7pm-7am, although a few show up earlier and some close up earlier. [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Wiild]Is it worth visiting Itaewon RLD during daytime or is it totally closed for mongering activities? I am visiting for a couple of days but will not have any chance to visit during nights.[/QUOTE]
Generally, no, although, as noted in the original quote, you may find a few early birds ~ 5PM or a few lingerers after 7 until 8-9 am. The chances of that are greater the later in the week it is and on weekends. A couple of possibilities are "ABC" and "Bridge" (near the top on the left) and Moonshine (about half way up on the right)(see map in ROD section). It's a real crap shoot, though, and may not be worth the time and effort you have to make to get there. Better daytime options are the hotel sauna tub 'n tugs and the foreigner friendly anmas in Gangnam (e.g., "Call" - RTF)
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Thanks for confirming Kimchi Warrior. I read up on the anma scene and I think I will actually pass by on engaging in mongering activities while in Seoul. Spend my money on restaurants and electronics instead! :-)
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[QUOTE=Wiild]Thanks for confirming Kimchi Warrior. I read up on the anma scene and I think I will actually pass by on engaging in mongering activities while in Seoul. Spend my money on restaurants and electronics instead! :-)[/QUOTE]
You can save your money on electronics, too; no deals to be had here. The gustatory scene, though, has improved a lot of late.
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From what I can tell. Call is the only recommended anma in Seoul that's foreigner friend. Does anyone have anymore they might recommend? (with addresses or landmarks please) what about in Suwon?
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LOL Agreed. Forget the electronic shopping -prices are 30% more than outside the country. As far as the hill goes, though, I've walked it on several Saturday and Sunday afternoons and found many open for lunchtime trysts.
[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]You can save your money on electronics, too; no deals to be had here. The gustatory scene, though, has improved a lot of late.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Zedawk]Since I heard about Anmas, I've been fantasizing about going to one. I'll be traveling to South Korea in a month and I'm hoping someone could direct me to a foreigner friendly Anma in Suwon or Seoul. I'm specifically looking for where the girl bathes you, then massages you with a happy ending (hoping for BBBJ.)
From the sounds of it, the barbershops are basically rub and tugs. I'm loving the sound of Anmas (or at least what I'm picturing in my head!)
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated![/QUOTE]
Look in my past reports for S Anma near Yeoksam station. It's foreigner friendly, and you'll get the full treatment: bath, tableshower with lubed body to body massage followed by a cleanup, bbbj, to the bed for bbbj, then the rest of the fun till you pop.
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In Seoul for a week
Hi guys, I will be visiting Seoul mid-March for a business trip. I was hoping you guys can point me to some hot Korean pussies :) I am from Canada but is Chinese, so doesn the 'no foreigner' tag still apply to me for some of these places? Any help would be great since I have no idea where to search.
Thanks in advance!
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[QUOTE=Swallow77]Hi guys, I will be visiting Seoul mid-March for a business trip. I was hoping you guys can point me to some hot Korean pussies. I am from Canada but is Chinese, so doesn the 'no foreigner' tag still apply to me for some of these places? Any help would be great since I have no idea where to search.
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]If you look somewhat Korean, just tell the working girls that you are a "gyo-po" (Korean-Canadian). This would explain why you can't speak Korean.
As for where to find the places, RTFF! Plenty of information on massage parlors, red lights, etc. Korea has both cheap and expensive options.
Also, there is a red light district near every part of Seoul (last time I was there, about 5 districts in the city of Seoul, with 3 more located within 30-45 minutes of Seoul). Massage parlors are everywhere (the best ones are near the business districts, I. E. Yeoksam-dong, Gangnam-dong, Apgujeong-dong).
Good luck and happy hunting.
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Jenny in Itaewon
There is a Korean woman advertizing in CL about being in Itaewon for a few days. Her age varies in her ADs (25,29) but she is really 34...not a big deal. She is a sweet woman but just down on her luck and needs some cash. I'll let her tell you her story. She is not very experienced but open to most things (except anal). Price is W200,000 per hour but you can get cheaper and she doesn't watch the clock at all. She is tall, thin and nice enhanced tits. Very vocal and will cum many times before you do. Here is a link to her CL AD:
[url]http://seoul.craigslist.co.kr/ers/1600254667.html[/url]
Look for her picture in the photo section.
DAWG
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I can't wait to return to Korea
I was Michael Jordan as far as women back in the great old days 1997-2005. I moved to NYC and then my sex life just fizzled. I can't wait to return. Maybe I will make my triumphant return this September.
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Don't leave home without Michael Jordan's visa card, bro, 'cause them days are over. I hate to pop your balloon but unless your a handsome lad or flush with cash, or both, that fizzled feeling's likely to cast a shadow even here.
Ask any punter from back in the day and the common refrain is the RLDs aren't what they used to be.
[QUOTE=Enchoo]I was Michael Jordan as far as women back in the great old days 1997-2005. I moved to NYC and then my sex life just fizzled. I can't wait to return. Maybe I will make my triumphant return this September.[/QUOTE]
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Guui (not Guri) shops
So, there's this 4 block strip in guui where all these tiny shops have frosted glass and signs like "Jazz" or "Gold Couples."
You pay $50 for 5 beers and then it gets interesting. I've been three times. The first time, I had a really hot young girl give me a blow job for at least 30 minutes. The second, two very hot ladies with giant breasts took off their shirts and gave me a handjob. And the third was pretty much conversation only with light touching.
Do these types of places have names? The deal can be great if you're in the right spot. Where else can I find a row of these bars?
Thank you!
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Jongno 3-ga
[QUOTE=Maniac77]So, there's this 4 block strip in guui where all these tiny shops have frosted glass and signs like "Jazz" or "Gold Couples."
You pay $50 for 5 beers and then it gets interesting. I've been three times. The first time, I had a really hot young girl give me a blow job for at least 30 minutes. The second, two very hot ladies with giant breasts took off their shirts and gave me a handjob. And the third was pretty much conversation only with light touching.
Do these types of places have names? The deal can be great if you're in the right spot. Where else can I find a row of these bars?
Thank you![/QUOTE]
The strip of bars you speak of sounds similar to an area around Jongno sam-ga station. There is an area with many love motels and small bars with funny names just as you described. Never been in any of them but now that you mention this, perhaps it would be worth checking out.
Although, if all you want is a HJ or BJ, you can get those easily on Hooker Hill. Sometimes cheaper, too.
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Anyone Know this?
Does anyone know where I can have get some hot Russians overnight or at least for a short time? Or maybe some Japanese women?
Thanks,
JAe Was Here
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I am now planning to visit to Seoul and Pusan. I want to know the website address or phone number which I can call to my hotel room.
Full service message or special message.
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Jongno 3-ga
[QUOTE=Ezinho]The strip of bars you speak of sounds similar to an area around Jongno sam-ga station. There is an area with many love motels and small bars with funny names just as you described. Never been in any of them but now that you mention this, perhaps it would be worth checking out.
Although, if all you want is a HJ or BJ, you can get those easily on Hooker Hill. Sometimes cheaper, too.[/QUOTE]Would be very interested to get some actual direction to this place as have never seen such bars in that area.
Where exactly?
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Same ol cycle
Good to see, fellow punters are back in action again.
The Hill is getting pretty old, same SP's, no fresh faces, they might have the skills, speak english, and go the distance, but little attraction there after one spends time in Kangnam or Appujeong.
This week's mongering was rough and expensive (in relative terms). Went to Sinchon Anma to have another round at my recent new addition but lo and behold she wasn't there. Reluctantly tried another "new face", worst Anma experience yet. Face was 8, body (in clothes) was 8-huge breasts, round ass. Clothes came off, and you can tell she had a few pups (stretch marks, cellulite). She looked like a Kangnam RS who got old and had to downgrade to Anmas. I knew right away she wouldn't perform, cracked my best jokes in Korean, tried to make it playful, but she just acknoweldged that she was a beautiful Korean princess. Refused to offer the full service, only missionary, and was pretty obvious in suggesting that she wasn't pleased about servicing a foreigner. Barely managed to finish my load, and we didn't exchange eye contact, or talk, and I went and complained to management (hope they don't ban me).
Always one extreme to the other.
Feeling frustrated, the following day I was in Kangnam looking at all the supermodels, so I went to my occasional Kangnam Anma. Asked for my regular girl (who lost weight and looked more fantastic) and had a great GFE (she calls me her "sex partner").
Today, I attended a celebrity event, and saw some of the most beautiful women I have ever laid eyes upon. Of course, I later snuck off to Yongsan RLD around 6pm to release. Absolutely no love from A row (usually manage to get some on the ends), however managed to secure A row quality in be row. However, she asked for more cake, and complained about dick size, with "time over" "time over" (after 10 min). Damn Bali Bali girls.
Suffice to say, the mongering scene for non-Koreans is downright pathetic. It's so hit or miss, and more likely miss than hit. All I can hope for is that the economy crashes here, making it more accessible for non-Koreans. I have never experienced these issues in such frequency anywhere else in Asia.
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Don't believe the price!
[QUOTE=JimJim005]Found these two web pages that talk about the sex industry in Korea. Even though it seems to be against this scene, they give information any hobbyist would want, like quality of looks, prices, do they accept foreigners, etc. Can anyone confirm how accurate these reports are?
This one is on the different types of service available in Korea:
[url]http://cityglance.org/asia/korea/prostitution.shtml[/url]
This one is on four different RLDs in Seoul:
[url]http://cityglance.org/asia/korea/seoul/redlight.shtml[/url][/QUOTE]Some of these prices are way off!
First of all, Miari doesn't offer shows anymore (to my knowledge), and average price is 60-70+
Secondly, Anmas range from 120-170+ for Koreans, and 170-250+ for non-Asians (this always pisses me off-even for the very few that accept non-Asians).
Thirdly, RLD (Yongsan, Cheongnangi) range from 60+ for Koreans, to 100+ for non-Asians (you can sometimes work it down if business is slow, no Korean men are around, and you can speak Korean).
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Jongno 3-ga
[QUOTE=J Korea]Would be very interested to get some actual direction to this place as have never seen such bars in that area.
Where exactly?[/QUOTE]
Start out at Jongno sam-ga station, exit 5. You'll notice the main road is completely under construction. Anyway, walk straight ahead until you get to Darak-gil street, then make a left. Start walking down this alleyway and you will see all the love motels and cards on the ground with asian porn stars. Keep walking and you will soon see bars with funny names, for example, banga banga, papas, etc. Keep walking some more and you will spot more bars, named Kooss men club, man in bar, and so on. As I said, I've never been in any of these places, I just walked by them, so I have no idea what they are.
On a side note, I got some hostile stares from a lot of the ajossis as I was walking around this area, so I'm not sure how foreigner friendly it is, if at all. To be honest, I had forgotten how xenophobic this country was, since I've been hanging out mostly in Itaewon. It was a good wake up call for me.
[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]
Suffice to say, the mongering scene for non-Koreans is downright pathetic.[/QUOTE]
Amen, brother. Amen!
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Yongsan vs. Miari RLD
I went to Yongsan RLD last week. About 1/3 of the windows were in operation. I got 2 invites on the A row, but not from the hottest girls unfortunately. I found a better one in the B row even though most there are pretty poor in comparison and only 1 or 2 were even doable. Paid 60k.
That said, the quality (looks/service) and quantity in Miari is far better than Yongsan. The girl I had was very mechanical and in a rush in Yongsan whereas, the session I had in Miari a couple of months ago was more GFE. Although you cannot see the girls in the windows in Miari, there are far more available to non-Koreans. The price is only 10k more in Miari but worth it IMHO.
Just my POV.
OAH
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Good to see, fellow punters are back in action again.
The Hill is getting pretty old, same SP's, no fresh faces,
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Actually, there is one @ Moulin Rouge. Stopped in there this morning on my way home from an international flight at Incheon. Ran into Nana, a tallish, full-breasted, nicely bottomed cutie who provided a very satisfactory sloppy, deep-throat blowjob. In fact, in the midst of it, I realized I had seen her before about three years ago, and on inquiring found she had been out of the game since then and only returned this month. Well worth a go.
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[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]I went to Yongsan RLD last week. About 1/3 of the windows were in operation. I got 2 invites on the A row, but not from the hottest girls unfortunately. I found a better one in the B row even though most there are pretty poor in comparison and only 1 or 2 were even doable. Paid 60k.
That said, the quality (looks/service) and quantity in Miari is far better than Yongsan. The girl I had was very mechanical and in a rush in Yongsan whereas, the session I had in Miari a couple of months ago was more GFE. Although you cannot see the girls in the windows in Miari, there are far more available to non-Koreans. The price is only 10k more in Miari but worth it IMHO.
Just my POV.
OAH[/QUOTE]I only went to Miari once, my usual stomping grounds are Yongsan RLD and Itaewon. I will have to go back to Miari when I have the time, it's a little far away, but as you pointed out the quality and quantity looks better in Miari than Yongsan. I have had a few Yongsan robots. Miari has a beer and fruit assortment served before the session. The clock was never watched.
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Actually, there is one @ Moulin Rouge. Stopped in there this morning on my way home from an international flight at Incheon. Ran into Nana, a tallish, full-breasted, nicely bottomed cutie who provided a very satisfactory sloppy, deep-throat blowjob. In fact, in the midst of it, I realized I had seen her before about three years ago, and on inquiring found she had been out of the game since then and only returned this month. Well worth a go.[/QUOTE]I have noticed in Itaewon that they will stop working at one bar and go down or up the road to work at another. I was going to a good lay at the Cabin in Itaewon for a while and she left. I found her a couple months later working near the top of the hill. She told me that she made enough working at the Cabin to be the manager at her new place.
During the day I have gone to the hill and saw girls that work at night in ABC visiting their friends at bars near the hill entrance.
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ABC Club
Has anyone been to the ABC club towards the top of the hill on the left hand side? My fellow monger and I went there a while back during the daytime around 3pm and the mamasan called us inside. Once we got in she gave us each a bear for 5, 000 won and asked what we were looking for. My buddy asked her for a girl so she calls one up. A skinny girl came in, not looking so hot (face about a 3, body a 7), but my bud was horny so he pays and takes her to the bed in back. I talk to mama a little more and ask her to call the hottest girl shes got working. She makes call after call. The entire time my bud and the 3 girl are goin at it. One girl came in but was pudgy and a little older. I told mama she had one more try so she made one last frantic phone call and boy, am I glad she did. This hot 18 or 19 year old came in (I think she had dreads?) with a tight little body and perfect ass and tits. I was so f'ing happy that I waited for mamasan to get it right. I took the hot girl in the back room and pounded her like there was no tomorrow. I was so excited at the end that when I pulled out and took my rubber off I shot a load all the way to her chin.
Has anyone else seen this girl I'm talking about? Mamasan said she works at a local convenience store when she isn't at the ABC Club.
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Actually, there is one at Moulin Rouge. Stopped in there this morning on my way home from an international flight at Incheon. Ran into Nana, a tallish, full-breasted, nicely bottomed cutie who provided a very satisfactory sloppy, deep-throat blowjob. In fact, in the midst of it, I realized I had seen her before about three years ago, and on inquiring found she had been out of the game since then and only returned this month. Well worth a go.[/QUOTE]I liked a girl at the Moulin Rouge. "Kelly" used to work there. She was such a sweet, young, and nice girl. Seemed like it was her first night when I banged her. I went back to see her a month later and the owner got upset when I didn't want to stay after she told me Kelly was on vacation. That was about two years ago and I haven't been back since then. Maybe I should check it out again.
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Shamrock
Any 411 on that fairly new one at the top of the Hill?
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Massage Near Lotte
Either I'm lucky, or folks complain too much on this board. I'm in Seoul only for a day, and after reading through this forum and since I'm a white guy, I was not expecting to have much luck out there hunting.
Turns out it was easy - I saw a big massage sign across the street from the Lotte Hotel where I'm staying (the one near the Westin Chosun), it's behind the Hana Bank building, you can't miss it. So I went through the doors not knowing what to expect - I get to the top of the stairs and a guy is at the desk. I ask if I can get a massage and he says yes, and then types out 270k on a calculator to show me how much. I agree and pay, take off my shoes and put on some slippers (my shoes were the only ones there, so I think the place was empty at 7pm) - he asked if I'm from the US, I say yes and he laughed, he seemed like a nice guy. He lead me up to a nice room with a bed, a bath, a shower and a toilet - told me to wait 4 minutes (not 3, not 5) and left.
After a short wait, in comes a stunning spinner, she told me her name but I forgot it, sorry. She proceeded to undress me and herself, gave me a nice shower and then asked me to lie face-down on the bed. She then proceeded to give me something like a Neru massage that was like bliss - I've never had it before, I'm not even sure you can get one in the States. She oiled my back and legs up and then slid all over me and kissed and sucked - my God! Next she had me turn over and did it again front-side - she had a beautiful shaved pussy and I could slightly feel the stubble as she slid it all over me.
I was of course rock solid at this time. Next she threw a cover on me and proceeded to give me an excellent CBJ where she alternated filling her mouth with hot and cold water from a cup - the sensations were out of control and I almost busted my nut. Next, she straddled me for CG (she was nice and tight, and had pretty little breasts with button nipples), then Mish, then sweet doggy where I finally couldn't hold back anymore.
After that, she wiped me off and gave me a cold coffee from a mini-fridge. This was apparently the time where we were supposed to cuddle and make small-talk I think, but her English was horrible and my Korean is non-existent. It all ended with her showering the oil off me and then giving me a bath, helping me get dressed and sending me on my way. In all, a nice and relaxing hour, my knees were wobbly as I walked the short walk back to the Lotte.
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[QUOTE=Lumberj]I liked a girl at the Moulin Rouge. "Kelly" used to work there. She was such a sweet, young, and nice girl. Seemed like it was her first night when I banged her. I went back to see her a month later and the owner got upset when I didn't want to stay after she told me Kelly was on vacation. That was about two years ago and I haven't been back since then. Maybe I should check it out again.[/QUOTE]
I think management has changed since then; owner/supervisor is now Hee-ju, formerly of Nymph. Kelly didn't stay long, before going on permanent vacation. I think I actually was her first customer, and boy did she aim to please - especially as then mamsan (forget her name, but she went back for good to Germany, where she generally spent several months a year) was there to direct (and add a helping hand, mouth, etc., as needed). Thanks for the memory.
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[QUOTE=Lumberj]Has anyone been to the ABC club towards the top of the hill on the left hand side? ... I talk to mama a little more and ask her to call the hottest girl shes got working. She makes call after call. .... I told mama she had one more try so she made one last frantic phone call and boy, am I glad she did. This hot 18 or 19 year old came in (I think she had dreads?) with a tight little body and perfect ass and tits. I was so f'ing happy that I waited for mamasan to get it right. I took the hot girl in the back room and pounded her like there was no tomorrow. I was so excited at the end that when I pulled out and took my rubber off I shot a load all the way to her chin.
Has anyone else seen this girl I'm talking about? Mamasan said she works at a local convenience store when she isn't at the ABC Club.[/QUOTE]
Don't recall having seen anyone with dreads, but Su-Jin is the in-house pick during regular hours (and sometimes earlier or later). She's a genuine college student, still fresh but getting more experienced since she first started not so long ago. Check the forum for previous reports.
Passed by the other day and turned down an invite from Su-Jin as I was on a mission elsewhere, and I also spied a new face in the background.
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[QUOTE=Dragoncatman]Either I'm lucky, or folks complain too much on this board. I'm in Seoul only for a day, and after reading through this forum and since I'm a white guy, I was not expecting to have much luck out there hunting. Turns out it was easy ... I ask if I can get a massage and he says yes, and then types out 270k on a calculator to show me how much. I agree and pay[/QUOTE]
Umm. Wow. Yeah, sure it's easy... when you're willing to overpay by 25%. You seriously paid 270k for a typical anma experience????? You didn't even try to haggle? Christ, man. You come in here and criticize the regular members of this board for complaining when you're in town for a day and try to brag about the standard service you got at an anma, but you overpaid by at least 60k.
The reason people have problems in Seoul these days is due to the shrinking numbers of places accepting foreigners. I was disappointed to find that some of my favorite haunts had taken up No Foreigner policies. Add to that the general price inflation coupled with foreigner fees, and you have a community of hobbyists who are a little disabused of the Korean sex industry. So, save your little critiques for another place, especially when you make noob mistakes like taking the first price they offer you.
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Pricing
[QUOTE=Looking Inrok]Umm. Wow. Yeah, sure it's easy... when you're willing to overpay by 25%. You seriously paid 270k for a typical anma experience????? You didn't even try to haggle? Christ, man. You come in here and criticize the regular members of this board for complaining when you're in town for a day and try to brag about the standard service you got at an anma, but you overpaid by at least 60k.
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Well, in his defense, that's not a lot compared to what some other guys have paid on here. Didn't some guy brag about paying 800k to get anal on the Hill? I mean, WTF is up with that? It's almost like guys get off on overpaying or something like that.
I think I've seen this massage place Dragoncatman mentioned in his post, it has a pink carnation on the top of the building, and it says massage in English and Japanese? There are a few other massage places around that area that have Japanese characters as well; I assumed they were primarily for Japanese businessmen. Maybe Dragoncatman was on expense account.
Anyway, I went to the Hill last night and I guess with the warmer weather more bars are staying open later. There were a couple girls at Mississippi bar, one with a tat on her leg. Was going to check it out but I walked in and a fat black guy was sitting at the bar. I said I'd come back, as I prefer to monger without other guys there.
Went to Eve bar, first bar on the left at the bottom of the Hill and ran into Jina from last year. She's gotten a little chubby since I last saw her, not sure what happened. Good BJ and in the middle she stopped and said "I think I know you!" Funny girl.
Didn't see one post-op either. Overall, the best night on the Hill so far this year!
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[QUOTE=Looking Inrok]you overpaid by at least 60k.
The reason people have problems in Seoul these days is due to the shrinking numbers of places accepting foreigners. I was disappointed to find that some of my favorite haunts had taken up No Foreigner policies. [/QUOTE]Anyone for some connect-the-dots? Could it be they're no longer foreigner friendly because certain foreigners aggressively insisted on a 60k discount every time they came around to punt?
Give the guy a break! The price is the price. He was quoted a price, he paid that price and he got a great service in return. You think he overpaid - fine - keep your distance from the venue. Do not go waltzing in and insist on a 60k discount lest we lose another foreigner friendly venue.
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[QUOTE=Ezinho]Start out at Jongno sam-ga station, exit 5. [...] Keep walking some more and you will spot more bars, named Kooss men club, man in bar, and so on. As I said, I've never been in any of these places, I just walked by them, so I have no idea what they are. [/quote]
There's another such area of those bars at Ahyeon station, on the Green line just before Ehwa station. Walking towards Ehwa from Ahyeon, the bars will be on your left and go for quite a walk, plus a few on a couple side streets as well. Ahyeon is also a well-known area for wedding dresses, so if you start seeing the wedding shops, you've gone too far. (Can't miss the bars anyway with the girls hanging out in the doorways beckoning you inside)
As noted earlier, you pay about W50,000 for 4-5 beer and one of the girls inside sits and drinks it with you. Touching is allowed, and more than that depending on the girl and/or how many beer sets you buy.
[quote]On a side note, I got some hostile stares from a lot of the ajossis as I was walking around this area, so I'm not sure how foreigner friendly it is, if at all. [/QUOTE]
Screw the ajosshis. They're not the ones I'm fucking, so they can kiss my ass. The hotels are foreigner-friendly, and that's all that matters. They don't even bat an eye when you tell them you want the room for a "short time" (about W20,000 for 2-3 hours)
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Looking Inrok - apologies, I meant no offense with my post or my quip about the regulars on this board. I very much appreciated the info I found here - I just wasn't expecting to get what I got, given other reports to the effect that anma's these days are likely to reject you, or at best are good for a short BBBJ and a HJ, or at absolute best passive missionary.
I'm also not a haggler by nature so I took to price offered, though it is possible I could have been able to knock the price down a few thousand k's.
Ezinho - you are correct about the pink carnation on the top of the building.
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[QUOTE=Dragoncatman]Looking Inrok - apologies, I meant no offense with my post or my quip about the regulars on this board. I very much appreciated the info I found here - I just wasn't expecting to get what I got, given other reports to the effect that anma's these days are likely to reject you, or at best are good for a short BBBJ and a HJ, or at absolute best passive missionary.
I'm also not a haggler by nature so I took to price offered, though it is possible I could have been able to knock the price down a few thousand k's.
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You did nothing for which you need apologize.
As an apparent newbie to Korea, you clearly indicated that you were probably lucky in getting accepted into an anma that is not on the short list of foreigner-friendly ones; anybody who took real umbrage at your apparent tongue-in-cheek remark about complainers needs to see one of the local plastic surgeons about having their epidermis thickened.
And, as Seoulstice observed in another comment, it's really pointless for other people to rant about overpaying. You're the only judge of that, really; if you left satisfied, you didn't overpay; you got the benefit of the bargain you made. Which is not to say that you might not have been able to make a better one if you had been able to convincingly project to the troll at the bridge that you were familiar with the local scene, preferably in Korean, which would make it more convincing. On the other hand, especially being ill-equipped, intel-wise and linguistically, to cleanly negotiate the price down, you likely would have got turned away. Similarly, when talking price directly with an SP, we all have to make choices about how much we want the unavoidable commercial aspect of the deal to color the real point of the encounter. Like you, I guess, I'm not inclined to souk haggling and am willing to leave a few bucks on the table when I judge that will generate some good will and sweeten the actual deed; if I judge otherwise, I move on; I'm not in the game to get the lowest price, but the best sexual experience at a price point with which I'm comfortable at the moment. By and large this has worked exceptionally well for me. None of the SPs I see watches the clock, they know what I like and go the distance in catering to my desires (even though I've been told by nearly all of them that I'm "himdeoro" (hard work)) and we both always enjoy ourselves (the SP also really getting into it being a principal turn-on for me). Obviously, I'm talking mainly about SPs with whom I have fairly long (6 month-2 year) histories, But it also works with initial encounters if you know what you're doing and have a little "nunchi" (intuition, feeling) for the peculiarities of the local scene and/or the individual SP.
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Russian
Anyone know a place in Seoul where I can find Russian girls?
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[QUOTE=Manfest]Certainly not everyone's cup of tea, but went to a fabulous RS called "Soprano". It is located in the Ramada Hotel in Samseong-dong, Gangnam. I was invited as a guest by local businessmen... so the usual heavy drinking with FS afterwards. The quality of water was fabulous (ie lots of very pretty faces and few with great realistic silicone implants)! But, more importantly, great attitude with almost anything available in and out of the room - touching, kissing, teasing, tickling, etc.
We had a great time. I don't know the exact cost as I was the guest, but a discreet question later suggests about USD $600 per person. As far as I could tell, this is for one shot! Plus 3 hours of drinking.
Way too much for my taste, but worth it when someone else is paying...
Now off to HK/China for the same thing, but for 1/4 the cost![/QUOTE]I have been here on someone else's treat too. The quality of the "water" was pretty top-notch and they have quite the little setup there (taking the service elevator from the room salon to the hotel rooms to do your thing). I must've met about 9 or 10 girls before I finally settled on one to drink and have fun with. The variety of girls was great too. Tall and slender, shorter and busty, long hair, short hair, younger cute girls, older more sophisticated girls. It was great.
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casual sex with korean girl
How to ask korean girls for sex? Are korean girls open minded enough for casual relationship with sex? I have lady friends that don't mind going out with me for a drink. Sometimes I will take opportunity to touch their hair and shoulder, hold their hands etc. But not too sure if they are open to have casual sex with no attachment? Any advice here?
These girls have becone my friends and I don't want any wrong move to ruin the relationship. At least they are still good to hang out weith.
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There's another such area of those bars at Ahyeon station, on the Green line just before Ehwa station. Walking towards Ehwa from Ahyeon, the bars will be on your left and go for quite a walk, plus a few on a couple side streets as well. Ahyeon is also a well-known area for wedding dresses, so if you start seeing the wedding shops, you've gone too far. (Can't miss the bars anyway with the girls hanging out in the doorways beckoning you inside)
As noted earlier, you pay about W50, 000 for 4-5 beer and one of the girls inside sits and drinks it with you. Touching is allowed, and more than that depending on the girl and/or how many beer sets you buy.
Any idea how far are they girls willing to go? Any disadvantage with limited Korean competency?
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[QUOTE=Maniac77]So, there's this 4 block strip in guui where all these tiny shops have frosted glass and signs like "Jazz" or "Gold Couples."
You pay $50 for 5 beers and then it gets interesting. I've been three times. The first time, I had a really hot young girl give me a blow job for at least 30 minutes. The second, two very hot ladies with giant breasts took off their shirts and gave me a handjob. And the third was pretty much conversation only with light touching.
Do these types of places have names? The deal can be great if you're in the right spot. Where else can I find a row of these bars?
Thank you![/QUOTE]Tried looking around guui station for this but had no luck. I went to the area that has a bunch of bars and NRBs but no luck finding these.
Any more info?
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The Apple in Itaewon
I was wondering if anyone got with a chubby girl from the Apple in Itaewaon? I went there back in Oct 2006. It was around 4pm and she had just opened the bar. I wish I could remember her name. She had a really nice personality. I bought her one drink. After some negotiating I gave her 100,000 won, she closed the bar, and we went to a room up the road. After she showered we started making out before we even got to the bed. I was so horny that I didn't even put on a rubber and we started going at it. I remember how wet she was, damn! I'm usually not attracted to chubby girls, but she was a good fck. She told me not to cum inside her so I pulled out at the last minute and jizzed on her tits. Somehow I never got the chance to see her again. (note: I know this was dumb to go BBFS)
Has anyone been with this chubby girl from the Apple and have pics? I should start bringing my cam on my adventures. I thought girls wouldn't like me taking photos, but after seeing all the posts with photos I guess I can get away with it too.
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[QUOTE=Shine21][quote=coitus68]There's another such area of those bars at Ahyeon station, on the Green line just before Ehwa station. Walking towards Ehwa from Ahyeon, the bars will be on your left and go for quite a walk, plus a few on a couple side streets as well. Ahyeon is also a well-known area for wedding dresses, so if you start seeing the wedding shops, you've gone too far. (Can't miss the bars anyway with the girls hanging out in the doorways beckoning you inside)
As noted earlier, you pay about W50, 000 for 4-5 beer and one of the girls inside sits and drinks it with you. Touching is allowed, and more than that depending on the girl and/or how many beer sets you buy.[/quote]Any idea how far are they girls willing to go? Any disadvantage with limited Korean competency?[/QUOTE]Depends entirely on the girl and how much she's into waegs. The ones not into you will not answer the door if you knock, or will close the door if they see you coming down the sidewalk.
Limited Korean ability is a disadvantage. Haven't met one yet that spoke any English. And why would they? They are not there for the waegs.
If the girl is into waegs, she'll probably be pretty patient with your shitty Korean, but they're there to get you to spend your money, so if they can't communicate with you, they won't waste too much time on you.
After a full night of drinking and dancing in Hongdae, my regular girl is a good way for me to end the night. A few more beer, private conversation, NSA affection, and at least two pops.
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Threesome
Returned to the hill over weekend and my fav Soo-ae at Peach Phuzz. Decided to take her up on a previous offer of a threesome. Girl she bought in was pretty good, fake tits but nice long nipples, not a looker but not ugly by any means. Was quite a nice session, I paid 400 so they took their time. They stared with CBJ (my preference, BBBJ was on the menu) and they are starting fucking the other girl (sorry blanking on the name, someone else may know who has gone 3some route with Soo-ae since I think it's her regular tag team partner), first doggie the mish. After awhile, Soo-ae wanted to get fucked, so change of condom and we fucked in various positions while the other girl sucked her tits and masturbated. Lots of talk too. Fun stuff, not cheap, but recommended for something different.
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[QUOTE=Coitus68]Depends entirely on the girl and how much she's into waegs. The ones not into you will not answer the door if you knock, or will close the door if they see you coming down the sidewalk.
Limited Korean ability is a disadvantage. Haven't met one yet that spoke any English. And why would they? They are not there for the waegs.
If the girl is into waegs, she'll probably be pretty patient with your shitty Korean, but they're there to get you to spend your money, so if they can't communicate with you, they won't waste too much time on you.
After a full night of drinking and dancing in Hongdae, my regular girl is a good way for me to end the night. A few more beer, private conversation, NSA affection, and at least two pops.[/QUOTE]Went to Ahyeon today. The girl there quoted me 100,000 won for 4 bottles of beer. I asked why is it so expensive and she claimed that its the same for all the girls. I walked out and went to another shop and was quoted the same price of 100,000 won. Are they trying to rip off foreigners?
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[QUOTE=Matt Hoople]Returned to the hill over weekend and my fav Soo-ae at Peach Phuzz. Decided to take her up on a previous offer of a threesome. Girl she bought in was pretty good, fake tits but nice long nipples, not a looker but not ugly by any means. Was quite a nice session, I paid 400 so they took their time. They stared with CBJ (my preference, BBBJ was on the menu) and they are starting fucking the other girl (sorry blanking on the name, someone else may know who has gone 3some route with Soo-ae since I think it's her regular tag team partner), first doggie the mish. After awhile, Soo-ae wanted to get fucked, so change of condom and we fucked in various positions while the other girl sucked her tits and masturbated. Lots of talk too. Fun stuff, not cheap, but recommended for something different.[/QUOTE]
Congratulations! Been there and done that, and it does make for a good threesome. The other girl is Sara from Ambrosia. Query: was Sara sucking Soo-ae's tits or her own? In my experience, Soo-ae has been a little shy about getting into it with other girls during threesome action?
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Congratulations! Been there and done that, and it does make for a good threesome. The other girl is Sara from Ambrosia. Query: was Sara sucking Soo-ae's tits or her own? In my experience, Soo-ae has been a little shy about getting into it with other girls during threesome action?[/QUOTE]They were both sucking each other's tits, at my request of course. I think Soo-ae knows I'm into tits and aims to please (not that I'm a regular by any means, but have been 4 times now over the course of a year or so).
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[QUOTE=Matt Hoople]They were both sucking each other's tits, at my request of course. I think Soo-ae knows I'm into tits and aims to please (not that I'm a regular by any means, but have been 4 times now over the course of a year or so).[/QUOTE]
She does that! Good on ya!
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[QUOTE=Shine21]Went to Ahyeon today. The girl there quoted me 100,000 won for 4 bottles of beer. I asked why is it so expensive and she claimed that its the same for all the girls. I walked out and went to another shop and was quoted the same price of 100,000 won. Are they trying to rip off foreigners?[/QUOTE]
It's possible, I suppose, but I doubt it. I would more likely assume prices have gone up some time in the last year. I'll have to drop by my regular girl and see what the deal is. Service may have also increased to go with the higher prices.
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[QUOTE=Matt Hoople] I paid 400 so they took their time.[/QUOTE]
400? 400 thousand Won!?!? I hope that is not correct! If so, those gals wern't the only ones getting screwed!
Keep the prices reasonable! Now they will all want 400!
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[QUOTE=Ben2]400? 400 thousand Won!?!? I hope that is not correct! If so, those gals wern't the only ones getting screwed!
Keep the prices reasonable! Now they will all want 400![/QUOTE]Don't worry, there are lots of cheap girls out there if you don't want quality or just want a quickie. It's all about context, it was a Friday, busy time, Soo-ae usually charges 200 anyway, etc. Hey, I don't do it every week, but I'm tired of hearing complaints from cheap fucks. I could just as easily complain about all the people out there relentlessly bargaining and making all the SPs more difficult to deal with and, more over, making it hard to get quality service, but I don't. To each his own.
If you want cheaper service, you can get, even from the better SPs if you don't go at peak time. One person paying more for a special service during a busy time is not going to have much effect. If you want to bargain and penny pinch, all power to you, but don't expect it from everyone.
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[QUOTE=Coitus68]It's possible, I suppose, but I doubt it. I would more likely assume prices have gone up some time in the last year. I'll have to drop by my regular girl and see what the deal is. Service may have also increased to go with the higher prices.[/QUOTE]Not too sure if prices can go up so much in such a short time. Unless the service includes a mind blowing BJ and fj as part of the deal.
I hope the shops there don't collude to have a separate pricing scheme for foreigners.
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[QUOTE=Matt Hoople]Don't worry, there are lots of cheap girls out there if you don't want quality or just want a quickie. It's all about context, it was a Friday, busy time, Soo-ae usually charges 200 anyway, etc. Hey, I don't do it every week, but I'm tired of hearing complaints from cheap fucks. I could just as easily complain about all the people out there relentlessly bargaining and making all the SPs more difficult to deal with and, more over, making it hard to get quality service, but I don't. To each his own.
If you want cheaper service, you can get, even from the better SPs if you don't go at peak time. One person paying more for a special service during a busy time is not going to have much effect. If you want to bargain and penny pinch, all power to you, but don't expect it from everyone.[/QUOTE]
Roger that. I get exasperated sometimes too by all the whingeing by would-be bottom feeders and guys who would rather be in Tland or the Fils (who wouldn't). On the other hand, their conduct doesn't always spoil the market; often it makes it easier for those who are more reasonable and willing to adapt to the local market to get MUCH better service by simply being a little bit nicer and less scroogish.
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I never haggle with a provider. No matter what country I'm in. I figure, if I convince her to lower her price, she will probably also lower her service. I can't imagine she will be in the best mood after getting less money.
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I went to Cheongynangni for the first time on the weekend. I paid $70 for a great time with a tall, gorgeous girl that was friendly, and had a great personality as well. Normally a girl like that wouldn't go for foreigners, I thought, but maybe 588 is a bit different?
How does it compare to Miari? I'm close to both of them. Does anyone have someone to recommend at either place? Thanks.
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Weird shit
[i]"how ideal want to happen: walk in front door which i leave a little open, close behind you, put dick in wall hole and i suck you. no say hi! i not want hear your voice or anything that id you. i suck you, you cum, and then you leave. that it. i not want to see your face or body. no offense but you just....dick
if these instuctions you can follow then we ok to go. i am already nervous about and i want to make sure you understand how i want do this.
i go home 6:30. anytime after 7:00 ok"[/i]
she said she was 5 minutes from camp humprey's gate. when i told her i can't have a guy suck my dick, she went
[i]"eww of course i girl. don't be gross. i had fuck and kiss before from hole but guy want more and more after that and i not comfortable. if no trust maybe we no good"[/i]
that's not a faggot response*.
she asked for my age and when i mentioned 37, she said
[i]"oh. i no be with more than 23. lol. is ok i think"[/i]
and went cold.
anyways, i am not going to put my dick in a hole in the wall; even when i was in school and went to some peep-shows in ny in the days before rudy g., i never did it. my team did, but not me!
*this is faggot-speak:
[i]"do you drive..? i'm in songpa..
of course i will call you..? do you want to meet up tonite?"[/i]
and later,
[i]"sorry if youre only expecting a girl here. but listen to what i'm going to offer. - non reciprocal at all.
i am a slim, feminine man who has - better butt, leg..skin than a girl. (5.8~9, 145 lbs)
me ..very submissive, feminine,.. on my knee.. crawl... to give you head as much as you want.. you can cum in my slave mouth.
(you do not need to do any thing to me. )
so it's just you let me serve/blow you, until you cum and i leave. nsa.
i'm 29 yrs old. living in songpa areal. of course 1 time hook-up. nsa
if you just want to get service for free(very good at giving head)and..if you simply want to get laid wihout trace, reciprocation at all .this may be a perfect chance for nsa.
again no reciprocal / you'll lose nothing.
let me know your contact number if you're interested.-
if not.. my sincere aplogy to disappoint you."[/i]
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Now that's GFE
Different strokes for different folks but, further to my ## 5090 and 5107, this is why I play the game the way I do:
My favorite called me yesterday, announced (as I was vaguely aware) that it was our "anniversary" and invited me out. Drinks and dinner in the best watering hole and restaurant in a 5 Star hotel (paid by her), followed by an invitation to a room upstairs that she had reserved and paid for and stocked with champagne and my favorite cognac, as well as the cat mask, leather topless corset, choke collar, wrist and ankle restraints that I bought for her some time ago and a couple other outfits and a few other toys of her choosing. Four unique over-the-top PSE sessions in the course of the night, each orchestrated by her, including two involving some additional talent (provided and paid by her) to cater to my most lascivious impulses. Best of all, she was totally into it, letting me get her off for multiple orgasms each time before shooting my bolt in her pussy, ass, mouth and over her tits while she begged for it.
It really doesn't "come" any better.
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[QUOTE=Shine21]Not too sure if prices can go up so much in such a short time. [/quote]
As prices have stayed the same for nearly forever (no increases certainly in my memory, and I've been here nearly 15 years), having a single price increase isn't something I'd begrudge them. My concern is if the service is the same for the new standard price. Again, I'll have to suss it out with my regular girl next time I'm in Seoul. It's been a while since I've seen her, so I hope she's still there.
[quote]I hope the shops there don't collude to have a separate pricing scheme for foreigners.[/QUOTE]
I've been there with Korean friends, too. Same price as when I've been there by myself, so collusion against the waegs is unlikely.
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Miari and Mugyo-dong
spent a couple hours last night getting the trouser snake drained but still had the hunger, so decided to check out miari. what a disappointment. i had never been before - years ago, when i didn't know my way around, someone tried to take me but got lost, and i later got accustomed to other venues - but i imagine it was on a scale similar to what o-pal-pal used to be. as in 588, though, real estate development, obviously has taken a huge toll; and even of what's left standing, i'd estimate that only about 10% of the shops were in operation late last night (friday). pretty dodgy little alleys, but very foreigner-friendly - perhaps due in part to my having the lingo down (or just the absence of business? - i only saw three drunk young korean bucks wandering around in the 30 minutes i was there) - but many of the mamasans were less than thrilled when i explained i was "eye-shopping". still they unlocked the doors and let me peek - interesting, and a little sad, that these girls are locked in. all the sps in demure poses sitting on the ondol floors in hanbok. unfortunately, i didn't see anyone who i imagined would rock my already rather jaded world, so i meandered home. probably won't ever go back.
on the way to miari, i also stopped to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and looked into mugyo-dong. i was provoked by having reread some of spotted dick's reports about bukchang-dong room salons. i was in a few of those years and years ago, and also in a joint in mugyo-dong that was very much of the same style and where i had some great fun. mugyo-dong, for those who don't know, is the neighborhood just east of seoul finance center, where there are a lot of nakji joints. alas, real estate development, and perhaps a push from city hall to clean up its back yard - particularly after a high ranking civil servant was arrested with his pants around his ankles there about a year ago - has wiped out the small, but interesting mugyo-dong scene. i found the place where i had been, but it's now some sort of bar. i didn't bother going in.
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Crimminy! Pass the testosterone brother and give me the number of your proctologist while you're at it, will you?
[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior] .....me get her off for multiple orgasms each time before shooting my bolt in her pussy, ass, mouth and over her tits while she begged for it.
It really doesn't "come" any better.[/QUOTE]
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Russian
The 1st night, my hosts were strapped to me like car seats and on the 2nd night, my last, I was too exhausted to hit Hongdae so I'd arranged with Jahae, my sexy Korean chic of some 6 years ago, to come over to Gangnam for dinner at 6. Postponed once to 1/2 past and then again, so I took the dinner reservation on my own. Then she bailed and apologized. Invited her to HK and she's eager, we shall see.
Made contact with a Russian but she won't come to the Ritz and true to her motherland, she does no oral.
She's cheap - 100k for 1 hour. And 20k for some motel (maybe her pimp has his evil planned the john?).
This is where I found her:
seoul craigslist
casual encounters
w4m
"need a man - w4m - 33"
Date: 2010-03-02, 1:29PM KT
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Yang-Sam Offictel
Well today was definitely a good night.
First I'm going to start off by apologizing to the board. Been a LONG time since i've posted and to be honest I haven't contributed much. But my line of work forces me to travel a lot and I rarely have the time to go monger or get onto this website as HR would probably get curious.
Anyways - 'headed to Yongsan as I heard whisper that there was a new Offictel around that area. Loaded with a phone number I called up the place and a old sounding mama-san picked up asking how my day was. I inquired if it was possible to have a "date" with one of their young ladies and she asked questions on my taste and what I looked for in a girl. Of course gave a fake name, real age, real interests, bla bla and she said she had a girl for me by the name of "Han-Kkos" which translates to "one flower" - I'm into the coca cola bottle shaped girls as most of you might remember. Don't care for big boobs but as long as it compliments her hip to ass ratio i'm all in. She laughed at my request (btw - these types with that kind of ratio is known as "jook jook pang pang") and she said she'd call me in thirty minutes when she knew a girl of my flavor would be ready. Around my age (25) and currently a student at a near by university. So I mongered around exit 2 from Yong-sam station going to the near by 7-11 for some smokes and ice coffee. Within 15 minutes she called and told me to come by the offictel and hit the 8th floor room XXX.
Went to the place and headed to the bathroom first to make sure i looked appropriate. I don't care what people have to say but I just like looking good no matter what if I'm 'bout to meet a girl for the deed. Headed up - rang the doorbell and this absolutely gorgeous american girl answered the door. Boy was I surprised. Short - nice breasts - cute eyes - her face was 'bout a 2 but her body helped me over look all that. She welcomed me like I was her boyfriend and gave me a kiss on the cheeks the moment I took off my shoes. She grabbed my hand and asked how my day was and if she could get me anything to drink. She rushed me to the sofa and I asked for something warm (cold as hell .. still) and she heated up some water for some instant coffee. I asked her why she didn't use the water fountain in the room (that has cold and hot water) and she said to her the fountain just ruined the original taste of the coffee. You have to actually boil the water to get the right taste from the coffee. I laughed at how cute she was and we spent some time talking. She let me finish my coffee and I lit up a cig and she just laid on my lap - watched tv for a while and just when I was getting comfy she unzipped my pants and pulled out my boy and started slowly licking and kissing him.
After a couple of deep throat'n she giggled her way off and started stripping her way to the bathroom. She winked and told me "shower time ;)" I followed her of course and she gave me a good rub down. More fun when she got down on her knees in the shower stall and continued sucking on me while we were still all soapy - looking up at me with her eyes. She smiled slyly and asked if i'd like a soapy titt massage and of course i couldn't deny. A couple of minutes of that and she dried herself off and rushed to the bed. I took my time drying off and followed.
As I got to the bed I discovered she had been masturbating getting herself ready. "I don't like using that fake lube sh*t cause it just suxs" LOL. So she wanted to get natural ;) I laid down next to her and she just took control. Deep throat and camel toe slide. Then as she climbed on top I stopped her - no condom? She said she didn't like using 'em and noticed I was clean so didn't mind. Like hell ... I don't care if she doesn't mind but I don't know how clean she is! So i insisted and even though she whined she shut her trap the moment I was inside her. Cow girl - reverse cow girl - doggy - 69 - wheelbarrow - missionary - standing doggy - then she got on her knees and gave me a boob job - and finale with CIM. Somewhere between doggy and 69 she wanted me to finger her ass hole as I was going in and out of her but it felt like she had never been entered from behind. So I quit after failing to get even my finger tips in.
Once I finished she asked if she wanted me for her to swallow or spit (mind you - with my juice still inside her mouth) and I winked and dared her to swallow. She did. Of course followed a large gulp of choco milk. LOL. By then I was all dirty and sweaty again so I jumped into the shower to clean off. She followed and even though we had just done the deed she continued to poke and tease my boy. Got done and we sat naked on the sofa smoking a cig and enjoying coffee - mama san called her phone informing us we had 5 minutes left. The moment she put down the phone she got right up to my boy again and started sux'ing me. I guess she was trying to get me to cum again in her mouth within 5 minutes. She succeeded. LOL.
After so I asked if I could snap a couple of pictures and she didn't mind - took a couple of pictures herself so that was a plus :D So enjoy.
So after that - put on my clothes. Headed out. She gave me a pat on the bum on my way out so I turned around and spanked her hard. She giggled and asked me to do that to her the next time we met. I said "no problem," and off I went.
That's my report. Hope everyone enjoys the picture and report.
Though
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[QUOTE=Seoulstice]Crimminy! Pass the testosterone brother and give me the number of your proctologist while you're at it, will you?[/QUOTE]
:)
There are several local docs who will set you up with bio-engineered bio-identical testosterone from reputable mfgrs (not the dodgy research chem companies from which a lot of body builders source their gear), if you want it; it does the same job as the steroid clones the body builders use, without the shrinkage effect on the "boys" and the (pretty quick) eventual shut down of natural test production.
Of course, there's also the old-fashioned approach: lots of heavy dead-lifts and squats to shock the body into making and triggering release of the relevant hormones.
There also are a variety of genuinely effective herbal supplements that promote increased test production and have the desirable knock-on effect of ensuring that you've got enough liquid ammo to fuel the gunned up cock, so that by round 4 or 5 you're still shooting juice and not just fairy dust.
Ditto for the prostrate - obviating the need (but perhaps not the compulsion for vitamin V, for that all night crank) for any but the annual proctology exam to check for the Big C.
The only downside is a truly insatiable appetite for pussy, which entails having and being able to exercise a lot of self-restraint if you want to be anything other than Henderson the Rain King.
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Huh?
[QUOTE=Gen X Baer]Well today was definitely a good night.
this absolutely gorgeous american girl answered the door. her face was 'bout a 2 [/QUOTE]
Does not compute.
Kyopo?
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First time...
I am first time being Seoul and will be stayed one night at Iteawon / Myeong-dong.
Anyone can recommend good soapy massage nearby Itaewon or Myeong-dong?
Perhaps not too high cost and the most important is having good happy ending.
Or how to get a call girl contact to my hotel room?
I have read through past few months reports and found that some of the places are not welcome foreigner. How about Chinese? I totally don't know how to speak Korean.
Is Miari and Itaewon only got BJ and HJ? What if I want to have sex?
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Does not compute.
Kyopo?[/QUOTE]
sorry - i was pretty tired when i wrote the report. she's gorgeous as in physique wise. as i mentioned before - nice coca cola bottle shaped body. but her face >.< I'm a gyopo :D
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A good chuckle was had with Kimchi's doesn't compute comment.
I'm thinking an American with a coca-cola bottle shape is an oxymoron these days. Good to know some still exist.
[QUOTE=Gen X Baer]sorry - i was pretty tired when i wrote the report. she's gorgeous as in physique wise. as i mentioned before - nice coca cola bottle shaped body. but her face >.< I'm a gyopo :D[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Gen X Baer]sorry - i was pretty tired when i wrote the report. she's gorgeous as in physique wise. as i mentioned before - nice coca cola bottle shaped body. but her face >.< I'm a gyopo :D[/QUOTE]
Sorry, I got that; I meant was she a kyopo. You mentioned she was American, but I've never heard before of a non-ethnic Korean, non-Asian plying the trade here except as an independent provider (except the Russians back in the day).
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Different strokes for different folks but, further to my ## 5090 and 5107, this is why I play the game the way I do:
My favorite called me yesterday, announced (as I was vaguely aware) that it was our "anniversary" and invited me out. Drinks and dinner in the best watering hole and restaurant in a 5 Star hotel (paid by her), followed by an invitation to a room upstairs that she had reserved and paid for and stocked with champagne and my favorite cognac, as well as the cat mask, leather topless corset, choke collar, wrist and ankle restraints that I bought for her some time ago and a couple other outfits and a few other toys of her choosing.
It really doesn't "come" any better.[/QUOTE]Just curious, but which RLD did you meet your regular?
[QUOTE=Darnay]I went to Cheongynangni for the first time on the weekend. I paid $70 for a great time with a tall, gorgeous girl that was friendly, and had a great personality as well. Normally a girl like that wouldn't go for foreigners, I thought, but maybe 588 is a bit different?[/QUOTE]588 has been going down the shitter lately. The left row is almost completely gone. I've visited few days ago and was surprised to see this really cute A-row girl accept this guy who was with a group of his friends and I believed they were all from South East Asia either Thailand or Philippines. Usually 588 never accepts foreigners, but I guess they're desperate right now since business is going down.
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[QUOTE=Abuasian1]Just curious, but which RLD did you meet your regular?
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Itaewon; probably that's why I'm a fan of it, all the shortcomings notwithstanding.
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First try
hey guys,
i'm new to the korea scene but thought i'd post.
i went for a walk in the itaewon area this sunday mid afternoon. it was my first walk through and i was just looking to see what the lay of the land was like. although it appeared pretty quiet i started getting doors swinging open in the bars there with one or more girls trying to get me inside. eventually i got lured into one and sat down with a pretty sexy looking korean woman, probably early 30's(?) who had a pretty nice body and was friendly to put it mildly. after going for one 20k drink for her i managed to unleash another 40k for what turned out to be the best hj i've ever had. coming from other parts of the world this was kind of high but strangely worth the experience if not better.
i did some further walking around and checked out another bar. the moma-san there offered me one middle aged woman and even though i insisted that i was just walking around went on to cell phone in another girl. she said this one was 23, though i have my doubts that she was much more than 18. a beautiful girl i must say. i don't speak korean but i had this feeling that the younger woman didn't either? i passed due to being a little suspicious and short on won.
just curious, if someone wouldn't mind cluing me in on a few things.
i would have thought the majority of girls in the clubs would be a) korean and b) older? is an **** market there something to be on the look out for or is this stuff just overlooked by everyone? (i'm trying to avoid problems)
i heard that there's a district called something like "shinwu" with street hookers and maybe some gambling clubs? does anyone know about this or know where it is? worth bothering with? are there street hookers here?
i wouldn't mind trying something more "economical" but i may have been near the bottom of prices already. i'd like to check out a massage/hj place if anyone can recommend a spot/directions?
sorry to ask too many questions too soon. i certainly don't mean to bring up anything too controversial either. seoul may not have everything some other countries do but being new it has a certain intrigue to it.
take care and be safe!
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Sumi from Gumi @ Apple
With all the banter about Apple lately, it seems appropriate to mention that there is a relative newcomer there named Sumi. Actually, she may be better described as "re-comer", as I believe I've seen her around before in the not too distant past - but I can't be sure; too much shagging may be resulting in premature dementia.
Anyway she's from Gumi down South, speaks good English and, apparently, Russian, German, French and Japanese, and claims to be the best cocksucker on the Hill with very little time on her hands because of all the expat heads of MNC's purportedly clamoring to get in her mouth. She certainly has a high opinion of her talents judging from her opening offer of 500K. I scoffed at that, without mentioning that my derision was due as much to the fact that, despite how outta line it is with even the somewhat fantastic Hill price offers, and 'whatever her linguistic and oral talents, she just doesn't look more than average. She then offered a sampler in exchange for one drink. Not one to look a gift horse in the mouth, though, I ponied up for the teaser, which actually turned into a reasonably good, albeit brief, BBBJ that stopped short of ejac. She IS quite talented and even managed to fit in a little gagging deep throat. But in the end, I've had much better, not only from my fav, but from several other girls on the Hill - all of whom also make my optical meter flutter - and she was adamant about what I felt was too high a fare for a full ride, so I moved on. BTW, this was in the middle of a Sunday morning, when you'd expect the price point to be more or less at its lowest and there weren't any other wolves on the prowl, so maybe she is able to get a big number often enough to insist on price maintenance. Your move.
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[QUOTE=Ilovechicas]Hey guys,
I'm new to the Korea scene but thought I'd post.[/QUOTE]I don't mean this very roughly, but if you want people to go out of the way to answer questions rather than simply direct you to RTFF, you might want to consider being courteous enough to name names and venues in making reports. Otherwise they're pretty useless.
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[QUOTE=Ilovechicas]I'd be more than happy to if I knew where it was. No harm no foul?[/QUOTE]
Well, sorry you couldn't own that --- you obviously knew to go to Itaewon, knew you were there and knew you were on "the Hill", regardless whether or not you knew that was its name (the latter of which would be very hard to believe). How hard is it to get your head from up over your pieces, brother, and note the name of the bar and ask the name of the girl? Even a newbie knows not to look at his feet but the jungle around him when he's on recon; otherwise he's just someone no one else wants to know because he won't be around long.
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Hi guys,
I'm a frequent traveler who's heading for Osan AFB and was wondering how far this place is from seoul. I've been reading alot of the posts of seoul and it sounds like lots of fun can be had over there. I wanted to know if there are the special services available at or near Osan AFB. Oh and I won't have a vehicle so I'll have to do with cabs. So traveling is a bit limited. If anyone can help out it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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UE vs. Brad
Has anyone been on craiglist lately. It seems like a turf war on craiglist. Has anybody ever use UE or Brad services? Which is actually better and how are there service?
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[QUOTE=Gunbbang121]Hi guys,
I'm a frequent traveler who's heading for Osan AFB and was wondering how far this place is from seoul. I've been reading alot of the posts of seoul and it sounds like lots of fun can be had over there. I wanted to know if there are the special services available at or near Osan AFB. Oh and I won't have a vehicle so I'll have to do with cabs. So traveling is a bit limited. If anyone can help out it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks![/QUOTE]About a 30 to 45 minute drive depending on traffic but you can also take the subway. There are many (juicy) bars available with mostly Filipina girls and a festive atmosphere. Like Seoul, you can also find the typical Korean Anmas, numerous barber shops and a RLD near-by, all offering 'special service.'
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I feel like a newbie
-Sigh- Tonight after an non-characteristic about of drinkiing, I wandered up the hill for a very late Friday night recon.
Feeling frustrated from eyeing superhotties at the Hyatt, and making out with locals in Itaewon clubs, I got lured into the downstairs bar close to the corner of the intersection of main street and cross-section leading to the hill. I had been before, making out with girls I have seen working there over the years (knowing full well girl drinks were pricy at 30,000won and FS quotes well over 200, 000won with no budging). However, this relatively new girl (looked vaguely familar) was stunning. Young, petite but great rack and beautiful eyes, by far best looking SP I have seen in the Won.
Immediately took her into VIP room and talked shop. Told her would pay 150,000 for FS. She seemed to agree, so wandered to bathroom, to count cash. Unfortunately, I was shy 20,000won so laid on the charm for 130, 000won. Paid 30, 000won for drink, made out a little, then gave her the rest in my wallet. She took me to another VIP room, and just danced for me. Wouldn't get naked, just kissed me, even chastised me for touching her under her clothes, or putting her hand on my member (which had convienently left my pants). WTF! Suffice to say, I was not happy. She was very sexy dancing, but kept asking for my Credit Card. I reminded her she agreed for FS, but she ignored my comments saying "I said we can do everything I want".
I have been in Asia long enough to know I have been scammed, and didn't really know what I could do (even after sobering up pretty quick). She "claimed" she needed 300,000 to leave (at 5am), and I spoke in Korean to the mamasan, trying to be cordial.
Do you think I have any chance in going back and convincing the mamsan to let this vixen go for a reduced rate (on a weeknight) after the "miscommunication" around agreed to services? Never had this happend before, where I flat out requested FS, and was denied after paying up front. Worth a shot.
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[QUOTE=Rail Racer]Has anyone been on craiglist lately. It seems like a turf war on craiglist. Has anybody ever use UE or Brad services? Which is actually better and how are there service?[/QUOTE]Good question, I've noticed the same thing on CL. Ivy on CL looks hot, haven't contacted her though.
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]-Sigh-
Do you think I have any chance in going back and convincing the mamsan to let this vixen go for a reduced rate (on a weeknight) after the "miscommunication" around agreed to services? Never had this happend before, where I flat out requested FS, and was denied after paying up front. Worth a shot.
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Well, I see the MO at this joint hasn't changed in ten years. The short answer is NO; don't bother, move on. Caveat: Something almost as bad happened to me about ten years ago there, although I managed to get my bacon into the grease finally by paying full retail at the time. And I also managed to get the girl's number and thereafter saw her at her apartment from time to time at a significant discount that made the initial premium worth it in the long run. Your call whether your girl is worth that effort; but given that the window of opportunity has closed, I think you have to say goodbye to your down-payment and start over
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Well, I see the MO at this joint hasn't changed in ten years. The short answer is NO; don't bother, move on. Caveat: Something almost as bad happened to me about ten years ago there, although I managed to get my bacon into the grease finally by paying full retail at the time. And I also managed to get the girl's number and thereafter saw her at her apartment from time to time at a significant discount that made the initial premium worth it in the long run. Your call whether your girl is worth that effort; but given that the window of opportunity has closed, I think you have to say goodbye to your down-payment and start over[/QUOTE]Sounds like a success story to me. Didn't grab the digits since I know these girls only have Sundays off, and often won't meet daytime before their shift (unless its for a free dinner before her shift). Curious what you paid for full retail price (even 10 yrs ago). Did you tap her in the venue? She claimed that we would have to leave, and implied that she would meet me outside. Couldn't wait due to time restrictions. You are probably right on letting it go, but I am stubborn bastard, and hate getting scammed. Going to see what I can salvage here. Will keep you updated!
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[QUOTE=Lumberj]Good question, I've noticed the same thing on CL. Ivy on CL looks hot, haven't contacted her though.[/QUOTE]Yah. She does. Any reports on her?
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Back on the Stroll and Cozy
It must be Spring! Or it's just sufficiently warm that the SPs are back on the stroll along the Namsan ring road between the Banporo turn-off and the Hyatt turn-off. I was up to my usual shenanigans in the 'ville tonight, twice, punctuated by a great meal and a couple of pints of Granat at Praha - which by the way is one of the few of the newer, better restaurants on Itaewon high street where the kitchen actually stays open past 10. On the way back to the manse ~ 1:00, I saw at least six strollers widely spaced out along the way. Wasn't interested enough at that point to slow down or get close enough to really see 'em, let alone inquire, but did see some very promising sets of long legs. Anyway, for the auto-enabled and/or the energetic, but in either case the intrepid, they're back for the season.
The name of the place where Jack Rabbit got jacked BTW is Cozy - one to avoid.
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Jack Rabbit
You did a good job keeping it cool. I would've acted a little differently in that situation.
Around '99 at Yongsan RL I decided to let an older ajumma take me to an ally in back with promises of a beautiful sexy girl for FS. She took me to a room in a back ally and I gave the ajumma money (can't remember how much). After I got undressed in walks a fugly chick. I was a little upset, but was soon feeling good as I slid into her wet pussy. Only 10 minutes later she told me the time was up, and she promptly left without me finishing. I was pissed so I complained to the ajumma who brought me there. I eventually got 20, 000 won back, but I learned my lesson the hard way. (I'm surprised I was able to get any money back.)
Needless to say, I went to the ATM, got some more cash, found another chick at Yongsan RL, and had a better experience with a much hotter chick.
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[quote=jack rabbit]sounds like a success story to me. didn't grab the digits since i know these girls only have sundays off, and often won't meet daytime before their shift (unless its for a free dinner before her shift). curious what you paid for full retail price (even 10 yrs ago). did you tap her in the venue? she claimed that we would have to leave, and implied that she would meet me outside. couldn't wait due to time restrictions. you are probably right on letting it go, but i am stubborn bastard, and hate getting scammed. going to see what i can salvage here. will keep you updated![/quote]
if recollection serves, the full boat at the time was 100k. went to her place for the deed. i noticed recently that the same girl is back in the trade working out of number one at the top of the hill.
in my experience, it's ok to be stubborn - but not about getting recompensed, just getting on. if you must go back, just make it clear that you know what happened, and know that she knows what happened and it ain't going to happen again - and see if she wants to play according to the new rules. unless it's crystal clear she does, move along. no point in making a fuss. you can't win - even if you get a make-up session (unlikely) it will be a poor put-on performance - and you will just lose face; and you'll get a rep all over the hill as a pain in the ass - there really is an incredible grapevine among the sps about the punters - they even give us nicknames; i've got two of which i'm aware.
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Yeonsinnae station
Yeonsinnae probably not worth the trip but…….
Two potential walk around trips.
At Yeonshinae station (line 3&6) make sure you go out exit number 4. Across the street you should see a Lotte Super. Look immediately to your right and you will see a small alley leading back to what I guess I’d call are traditional looking Korean restaurants. About half way down the alley you’ll see an almost unnoticeable little pink door. Today the shades were drawn but on a previous trip there are about 3 curtain covered rooms and a woman or two in there waiting for customers. Looks like a traditional massage joint with middle aged women.
Walk back out to the subway entrance #4 and turn right. You should see a spinning barber pole that leads downstairs to a dark set of rooms. I previously had negotiated marginal HJ and massage for 40K. The woman isn’t bad looking – friendly enough. She’s actually got a pretty nice body and let me feel her up as she was massaging the front of me. No name I could make out and a second trip there I didn’t even get a response from any workers inside (though I walked in the front door).
Walking a bit further (1/2 block?) you’ll see a pinkish sign that says coffee & bar (or liquour, can’t remember now). I went in and it looks like a failed Howard Johnson’s restaurant from 1975. The staff didn’t get the memo and just decided to keep on working after sticking ridiculously large flowers in the planters. I walked in her not knowing even what it was and 2-3 of the middle aged women there waved me in. I smiled and backed out as it was over my head language wise. It looks like a coffee and flirt joint to me? Maybe extras are available after a bit? Hard to tell.
If you turn around and walk back toward exit 4 of the subway and alleyway for the little pink door and then keep on walking you should snake your way around some restaurants and you’ll pass some no-tell motel looking places. One was called Red Motel for reference. I’m not sure what’s going on but there were a number of business cards on the ground with women and numbers. I’m not sure if these are tabang numbers or escort numbers (it’s in a little hotel zone).
Trip #2
Come out of the subway again at exit #4. Do a U turn and walk a short distance. You should come to a big, nearly triangle intersection. Keep following the street around to your left and you’ll see a suggestive sign that leads to a bottom floor joint – again, couldn’t get anyone to respond even after stepping into the place. If you keep walking you’ll come to Holly’s coffee. Ten feet ahead or so, you’ll your first set of barber poles on that street. Too much going on to stop today. For reference, you should be able to look across the street and see a Dunkin Donuts on the corner. If you stop in front of Hollys and look down the street further you’ll see a second set of spinning barber poles. It’s basically another block down. I went down the other night and the woman there was yaking it up with an older guy but flashed me 6 fingers and smiled. I’ll probably go back to this place. The woman was no model but again, you could see she actually had a decent body. I’ve got a feeling from my one other stop in this neighborhood, things are negotiable.
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Pink Agency?
Hey guys, visiting Seoul next week from Canada. Still haven't had much luck finding a reliable agency for escorts. Since I am asian but not korean, am I really have no option hooking up with juicy bar girls? The only agency I find so far is "Pink Escorts Services", has anyone tried it and is it reliable? Also, is BBBJ or BBFS common in Seoul?
Thanks guys!
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[QUOTE=Swallow77]Hey guys, visiting Seoul next week from Canada. Still haven't had much luck finding a reliable agency for escorts. Since I am asian but not korean, am I really have no option hooking up with juicy bar girls? The only agency I find so far is "Pink Escorts Services", has anyone tried it and is it reliable? Also, is BBBJ or BBFS common in Seoul?
Thanks guys![/QUOTE]
Don't have any reason to use them, so can't help you w/ escort agency recommendations, except to note that there has been some discussion of the pros and cons of some of them on craig's list seoul in the erotic services section.
BBBJ is SOP here; BBFS is widely available in the anma and room salon scene, much less so in the juicy bars on the Hill, but there are some notable exceptions.
If you're not inclined to the Hill scene, your best fixed venue bets are foreigner friendly anmas and room salons (assuming you can pay the freight or have enough wingmen to spread the pain). RTF.
Happy hunting
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Shamrock
[QUOTE=Taloha]Any 411 on that fairly new one at the top of the Hill?[/QUOTE]
Got a "pop" - that what the girls call the door-opening call-out - as I walked by a few nights ago. Saw an over-sized fire plug w/ a butter face and thunder thighs. Quickly moved on.
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Don't have any reason to use them, so can't help you w/ escort agency recommendations, except to note that there has been some discussion of the pros and cons of some of them on craig's list seoul in the erotic services section.
BBBJ is SOP here; BBFS is widely available in the anma and room salon scene, much less so in the juicy bars on the Hill, but there are some notable exceptions.
If you're not inclined to the Hill scene, your best fixed venue bets are foreigner friendly anmas and room salons (assuming you can pay the freight or have enough wingmen to spread the pain). RTF.
Happy hunting[/QUOTE]Thanks very much! I wasn't looking for BBFS but it seems (from the picture section) that it's common. I just want to be able to find some action while there.
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[QUOTE=Swallow77]Thanks very much! I wasn't looking for BBFS but it seems (from the picture section) that it's common. I just want to be able to find some action while there.[/QUOTE]
There are also a couple of interesting looking independent SPs who advertise on craig's; but you've probably found those by now.
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New Talent on the Hill
Trolling the Hill tonight, I noticed some new faces doing the "pop" @ Nymph, ING (formerly Starbutts), Cabin, Apple, VIP and Venus (or Debut). Too many SPs, too little time, and too many other commitments (one in particular); some of y'all starting doing some recon, Whoaah?
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Mapo-dong
So I arrived in seoul at last! Staying at the Best Western Premier Seoul Garden in the Mapo-dong area. Walked around and not sure what to look for, saw many bars, including 69 Sexy Bar, Hermes Night Club, Boss Night Club around the block, but not sure what they are so didn't enter. If anyone know of any worthwhile places to visit within walking distance, it would be great!
Thanks
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Holed up
[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Trolling the Hill tonight, I noticed some new faces doing the "pop" @ Nymph, ING (formerly Starbutts), Cabin, Apple, VIP and Venus (or Debut). Too many SPs, too little time, and too many other commitments (one in particular); some of y'all starting doing some recon, Whoaah?[/QUOTE]
New Talent huh? Well that sounds promising. Unfortunately I am stuck indoors these days with a big titted blond who seems to think her sole mission in life is to drain every ounce of cum out of me, and watch my every move.
Hopefully summer will supply me with some fresh stuff and I can get a report back to the board.
Take care all,
c.
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I am new too. Today is my first day on the board. It was recommended that I come here. I will be gattting a car soon, so I should be able to get around to all of the areas the areas that I have heard about. I just want to thank you and all of those that have posted information. I have never experienced what it was like here "back in the day", so everything that I am about to experience is coming from a first timer. I have been reading everything that has been posted from December til now and I have a lot more to go. These are the hours that I should be out and about, but I decided to read up on the information before I go out again. It may save me time and money. I have a been here almost 8 weeks and I have a juicy that I get to hit off in the daytime. It's not P4P but I can keep wet when she comes out to play until I find better. On the hill during the day a BJ can be had for 50. I will read up to see if it could have been cheaper. I was told, "bring more money next time. " "OK! " Coming down from the hill it is the first spot on the right. It can't believe that they were looking out the window in the rain. I figured the market was in my favor. I'll have to read more to see if that is standard or if I overpaid.
[QUOTE=MrMorrison]I have been in Seoul a few months, before coming to this city I was blessed with the luck of living in a city where sex industry is very active and provides good quality experiences.
Here in Seoul is different. I have tried the famous An-ma, the juicy bars, the hostess bar, the texas rld, yongsan rld, a barber shop close to my home and I have received in most of them an average wham bam thank you mam service. I have not found any GFE yet. There is a lack of sensuality en general. Most of them are not wild and not enjoy their job, as opposite as many escorts I have had the pleasure to meet in north-america and europe, or at least they are not good actresses.
The closer GFE experience I've found is in Yongsan RLD with the be row ladies, there are some good MILF quality there if you look well. Too bad the best women on Yongsan are not available for foreigners. They are really good looking ones in the A row. I cannot believe how they prefer to fuck a drunk old Korean labor worker than myself. Just because I'm not korean.
On Hooker hill I have tried almost all, if you are premature ejaculator this is your place, if not, you are going to have hard time, all the girls are asking you to 'cum baby cum' after 5 minutes. The best juicy bar I've found is the Texas bar on hooker hill, there is one thin korean, she is good.
The An-ma is classy but I good prefer a "just to fuck session" with one of the girls that work on the an-ma without the showering and the massage. I think 200$ is a lot for the service you get.
From the hostess bar you can get phone number and a date next day, probably even a fuck friend. It is very easy to get numbers from them and fuck them next day. For the ones looking for Russian, I can tell you to go to UN club, there are around 5 Russian hostess women there, good looking, late twenties and thirties. However in weekends in a busy place, lot of brothers, drunks, some fights per night, so take care.
Also we have the Rio club but that one is very boring and girls does not approach to you easily. I don't understand the system of that club. They don't seem to care much to talk to you.
I report more later.
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Pink & mapo
Desperate for sone release last night, called brad at the pink agency for an sp. He was very accomdating and told me which three girls from her website was available, he recommended one named chris. She came about forty minutes later and she was super cute student, average body. She gave me HJ and cfs after chatting and taking shower. Her English was not bad at all. The damage was 250, not sure if this is way too high but like I said I was desperate!
Still hoping to know about these clubs around my hotel in the mapo area. They seem to be karaoke places. "69 sexy club", "Hermes entertainment", "boss room business". The clerks don't understand much English so I'm not sure if I should try them out although I see hot girls going in and out of them, can anyone offer recommendation please?
I would also like to check out Anma places as well while being here. I heard of one called ace in the gangnam or yeoksam area, can anyone confirm or other recommendations? I am not picky on prices, just want to bang tr hottest chicks.
Thanks guys!
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[QUOTE=Carmex]New Talent huh? Well that sounds promising. Unfortunately I am stuck indoors these days with a big titted blond who seems to think her sole mission in life is to drain every ounce of cum out of me, and watch my every move.
Hopefully summer will supply me with some fresh stuff and I can get a report back to the board.
Take care all,
c.[/QUOTE]Good to hear from you, mate; it's been too long. I figured you were shacked up, but I'm surprised you've endured the collar and leash so long. Doesn't it chafe?
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Last night in Seoul, havent found ANMA
Hello everyone,
This is my first post and I appreciate what you all are doing here, I've searched over this forum and looked and looked but can't find directions to a fantastic ANMA, I'm looking for class A action for about 180k.
If someone could Please post directions from a train station to the ANMA I would love you forever, these seem like a good ol time and I want to experience it before I fly out.
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[QUOTE=Brake210]Hello everyone,
This is my first post and I appreciate what you all are doing here, I've searched over this forum and looked and looked but can't find directions to a fantastic ANMA, I'm looking for class A action for about 180k.
If someone could Please post directions from a train station to the ANMA I would love you forever, these seem like a good ol time and I want to experience it before I fly out.[/QUOTE]Hey there are some links in the Reports of Distinction forum that gives you to direction to Cool and S Anma I believe. At least I was able to found them after digging throught there and the forum.
However, I haven't been able to dig up the direction to Zest or Belle, I've looked through all of ROD threads and dug through many pages in the forum. If someone is kind enough to help with that would be great! In any case, I am gonna hit up the RLDs plus Cool & S Anma the next few days.
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Frustrating day
Tried to check out the rlds and anmas today, came up empty handed despite following all the directions, so if someone is kind enough, please answer the following for me.
1) Couldn't find 'cool' or 'belle' despite making the turn at prudential building. Are they closed? I went to the stairway (with green glass around) to try to go to the basement to take a peak as the directions indicated but was told there's nothing but constructions going on.
2) Need better direction to 'ace', saw some anma places but couldn't find ace around the gangnamgu station.
3) What time does s anma open? Because earlier I couldn't find it coming out of he yoerksam station, didn't know need to walk that far. Eventually saw it when I was in a taxi going to check out somewhere else. Went back later on and the door was locked with couple of signs in Korean that I don't understand. Perhaps they were full or too quiet because of the snow?
4) Finally, tried to check out Miari rld but nothing seem to be open? Is that because of the weather again?
Please help! Two more days in Seoul!
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[QUOTE=Swallow77]Tried to check out the rlds and anmas today, came up empty handed despite following all the directions, so if someone is kind enough, please answer the following for me.
1) Couldn't find 'cool' or 'belle' despite making the turn at prudential building. Are they closed? I went to the stairway (with green glass around) to try to go to the basement to take a peak as the directions indicated but was told there's nothing but constructions going on.
2) Need better direction to 'ace', saw some anma places but couldn't find ace around the gangnamgu station.
3) What time does s anma open? Because earlier I couldn't find it coming out of he yoerksam station, didn't know need to walk that far. Eventually saw it when I was in a taxi going to check out somewhere else. Went back later on and the door was locked with couple of signs in Korean that I don't understand. Perhaps they were full or too quiet because of the snow?
4) Finally, tried to check out Miari rld but nothing seem to be open? Is that because of the weather again?
Please help! Two more days in Seoul![/QUOTE]My first post. Veteran of korean scene. got some good info here so I thought I'd give back.
1) Cool - last I checked as of about 2 months ago, Cool is not foreigner-friendly, so don't waste your time. It is open if you want to give it a try anyway. If you were able to find Cool, then you should be able to find Belle. If you walk to Cool from the Prudential building, then keep walking in that same direction past Cool. Keep looking across the street while you walk and pretty soon, you will see an Orange sign showing "Belle". It is not on the sidewalk but is visible from the sidewalk. Cool and Belle are very close to each other. Belle is foreigner friendly, but not really worth it in my opinion.
2) Sorry, don't know Ace anma.
3) Usually Anma's are open from late morning to early morning (4am ish). Depends. But I think "S" Anma might be closed. Not sure. Could be b/c of the snow.
4) Miari was probably closed b/c of the weather. RLD's in korea are generally dying out, but I'm pretty sure Miari is still open. Probably only closed that day b/c of the snow.
Good luck dude
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Yongsan RLD
[QUOTE=Burnside1044]My first post. Veteran of korean scene. got some good info here so I thought I'd give back.
1) Cool - last I checked as of about 2 months ago, Cool is not foreigner-friendly, so don't waste your time. It is open if you want to give it a try anyway. If you were able to find Cool, then you should be able to find Belle. If you walk to Cool from the Prudential building, then keep walking in that same direction past Cool. Keep looking across the street while you walk and pretty soon, you will see an Orange sign showing "Belle". It is not on the sidewalk but is visible from the sidewalk. Cool and Belle are very close to each other. Belle is foreigner friendly, but not really worth it in my opinion.
2) Sorry, don't know Ace anma.
3) Usually Anma's are open from late morning to early morning (4am ish). Depends. But I think "S" Anma might be closed. Not sure. Could be b/c of the snow.
4) Miari was probably closed b/c of the weather. RLD's in korea are generally dying out, but I'm pretty sure Miari is still open. Probably only closed that day b/c of the snow.
Good luck dude[/QUOTE]Hey thanks burnside.
I couldn't find Cool or Belle, but didn't go back. Had limited time, so went to check out the Yongsan RLD instead. And WOW! There are some really hot young girls there! I didn't really venture into the so-called be rows. I got out of the station, walked across the street and turned left. Walked past a bunch of hotties who kept asking and knocking on their glass door to get my attention. I don't speak a word of korean, so I just nod and said 'sorry' as I kept walking to check the quality. After walking through all of them, walked back and across to the right side, and again, walked past a few hotties and I did the same thing. Eventually I settled on a super hot one near the entrance of the right A row. She's a 9 or 9. 5 from head to toe, it was amazing. I told her I don't speak korean, she thought for couple of seconds, and said that I 'looked' korean even though I don't 'talk' it, so she was ok with me. She had limited english but we understood enough to carry out some light conversations. She's from a city on the very south coast of Korea. She says she's 27 and looked slightly younger to me. She kisses a little bit, or at least let me kiss her a little. Awesome BBBJ, she had some skills! The cfs was very good as well and she was getting into it by the time I came. We chatted a while for about 5 minutes afterwards as I had paid for the 30mins option at 140, 000. With it being so satisfying to finally find some local action after couple of days of frustrations, I wasn't done. Walked back to the left row and got entice by two girls that are probably an 8 or 8. 5. I walked in and they had a lot of trouble with my english. The one girl (not the one I am actually seeing) told me 1 million won for 15 minutes! She actually meant 100, 000 for 15 minutes, but I wanted 30 minutes, so she says 270, 000 for that. I told her that's too much, but being the terrible negotiator that I am, I told them 170, 000. They thought for a few seconds and said ok. The girl tried but she just have no english skill at all, and we got a little frustrated at times when we try to communicate. She didn't start off very into it, the BBBJ was short and not nearly as good as the earlier girl, but got better as time goes along. She seem to be a little uncomfortable through the whole thing so after about 25 minutes of 'controlled' action, I faked one! I just couldn't stand seeing her acting uncomfortable anymore (although she was trying) plus with this being a 2nd shot in an hour, I wasn't even close. So that was that. She had a tattoo of couple of dice on her left lower back. As I leave the alley, I realize there was a very hot 9 on the first or second booth near the entrance to the left row. I really wanted to do her but figure I needed some rest. Actually went back later in the night (or is it morning?) but she wasn't there, walked a few rounds around the block while fighting off the mamasans who kept trying to pull me into the alley, I went back to check one last time, but again she wasn't sitting there, so I went back to my hotel and that was my night! I really wanted to do her too, damnit!
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[QUOTE=Swallow77]Hey guys, visiting Seoul next week from Canada. Still haven't had much luck finding a reliable agency for escorts. Since I am asian but not korean, am I really have no option hooking up with juicy bar girls? The only agency I find so far is "Pink Escorts Services", has anyone tried it and is it reliable? Also, is BBBJ or BBFS common in Seoul?
Thanks guys![/QUOTE]Hey,
Back from a very long Hiatus. Its been almost a years since I've last logged on.
Anyways, I went to a nice Anma right in front of the Gangnam Novotel. It is literally across the street. There is a big neon sign and it leads down a really steep side street. The door is in the wall on the left side of the street. 180k won for the time. I was there for an hour and a half and had no phone call interrupt or anything. I guess its a YMMV deal and I was taking my time.
PM me and I'll take you there. I've been looking for an excuse to go again!. I can speak the lingo, I'm korean.
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Directions
[QUOTE=Brake210]Hello everyone,
This is my first post and I appreciate what you all are doing here, I've searched over this forum and looked and looked but can't find directions to a fantastic ANMA, I'm looking for class A action for about 180k.
If someone could Please post directions from a train station to the ANMA I would love you forever, these seem like a good ol time and I want to experience it before I fly out.[/QUOTE]Sun anma.
Get off at Nambu Terminal station exit 6. Walk straight until you see the BC card building. Before you pass it take a hard right and then another hard right. Remember TWO turns! You'll see a bright lit up sign that says SUN and you walk into the parking area, go to the sliding door and you'll be greeted by an attendant.
Remember. Don't pass the BC card building. Just as you get to it take a right turn into the side street, then like 10 feet in you'll take a another quick right turn. Its a hairpin turn so watch out!
Damage when I went was 200k. BBBJ, HJ, FS, DATY, and everything in between.
Enjoy!
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ahyeon station - don't think its worth a try
[QUOTE=Coitus68]It's possible, I suppose, but I doubt it. I would more likely assume prices have gone up some time in the last year. I'll have to drop by my regular girl and see what the deal is. Service may have also increased to go with the higher prices.[/QUOTE]I was really curious about the service they provide there. Despite being quoted 100k for 4 bottles of beer, I still went ahead with a girl in a store name chemical(signboard in hanguel of course). It all for experimenting. The girl serving me was a 6 only but she seem quite a wild girl to try (regretted later, as she is fat and out to squeeze money out from me, well what do we expect from such outlets but at least i expect value for money which i don't think im getting from here or was it the girl). Actually I find the other girl in the same shop prettier and seems more gfe. Also seems to be a better figure (I was drooling over her boobs when she came inside the room to dirnk with us.
Ok, so what happened was, went inside a room, paid 100k, got 4 bottles of beer, I strip the top of my fat girl, exposing her breasts. tried to finger her but she resisted. Then we chatted for a while with my poor korean. She invite her cutier and bustier friend in to drink and chat and within 10 minutes finished my 4 bottles ??? My girl begin to entice me(promising to go naked and more services) to buy a small bottle of local whisky at 350,000won (comes with 2 beer, a plate of fruits, 2 green tea). Up till this point I haven't done much.) Only got to squeeze her pathetic breast.
I know this is a trap but as money is not really an issue for me and I'm more for experimentation, I paid up the 350k. She brought me into another room with floor seating. took off her panty and my finger action started. a bit of frenching. so for next 1 hour, drink a little, smoke a little, chat a little, play a little, got a bit of handjob and blowjob here and there. must say she suck really well. on a few occasion, her busty colleague will come in to help us finish up the drink. but its quite an experience to another girl to see us petting. finally, the bottle was finished. at this point of time, my cock was hard and need urgent release. requested for a blow job but was rejected. The girl wanted me to buy another bottle or bring her home for a screw(i suspect payment required). Money is not an issue for me but I'm no idiot. Gave excuse that im too drunk to drink more or to fuck. Told her she can suck me dry if she want to see me again next time. She refused and insist on me buying another bottle before she can help me to release, or bring her home for a night. FUCK.. thats enough time and effort wasted. I got up put on my clothes and left. Reach home, phone my regular girl and got a good service from a 9 looker that night.
Thinking back, I think Ahyeon station is not a value for money place. Spend 450k and only got an erected cock when I went out of the place. Of course I may be unlikely to get a bad attitute girl. I thought if its her colleague, I may have brought her home that night cause she is prettier, bustier and seems to have better attitute. There again, there are better girls out there.
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Hello Fellow Patrons,
Don't right that often because I feel like in comparison to people like Kimchi Warrior I should keep my mouth shut and listen to what he and other Vets have to say but I wanted to ask a question but will report first.
Went to the Hill early this past Thursday probably around 7:30. I was on a mission to see Bean at Bridge around 8 so I just toured the area a bit. There were as I walked up some of the bars were open and the girls would poke their heads out and try to entice as always but like I said I was on a mission. I was walking up the hill once though and a girl in a yellow dress came out out BC and tried to hulk me into the bar. For at least 30 seconds she was grabbing and pulling me, I was kinda impressed be her determination but I just started laughing and tried to keep walking.(I'm by no means a big guy, so it was probably easier for her to try that on me than others. Anyway I saw Bean a bit later and it was 120000 for fun across the street at her place. It's been said once but I'll say it again her ass is amazing, bordering on ludicrous and that's what I enjoy the most about her.
A few weekends before that I was on the hill and stopped at Capital, I wish I didn't know. I went in had a few drinks and bought one and then the girl, sorry I cannot remember her name but she was the skinny one, would only do mish. I'm a lover not a fighter so I finished mt business and left but I will never go back damage there was about 180000W.
As for a trip farthur north, not recently but as in a month ago I was stopping in to Miari every few weeks and, no the front row ajummas will just watch you go by but on the inside of the zone there were quite a few willing places with pretty good girls. The house that I went to often was back there and none of the girls had problems with foreigners and it was only 60000W per pop, alas my fav from the area went missing, I should probably go back to see if she just changed names or is really out at that house. But last time there were a few ajummas reaching a helping hand out( maybe cause it was the dead of winter).
Anyway I'll finish with my question, and I'm sorry if it's been answered I couldn't find it and we know bars on the hill change names. Does anyone know if BC Bar a regular girl bar or a tranny bar? Cause if it's regular then I may have to go back and check it out. They seem desperate.
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[QUOTE=Adem86]Sun anma.
Get off at Nambu Terminal station exit 6. Walk straight until you see the BC card building. Before you pass it take a hard right and then another hard right. Remember TWO turns! You'll see a bright lit up sign that says SUN and you walk into the parking area, go to the sliding door and you'll be greeted by an attendant.
Remember. Don't pass the BC card building. Just as you get to it take a right turn into the side street, then like 10 feet in you'll take a another quick right turn. Its a hairpin turn so watch out!
Damage when I went was 200k. BBBJ, HJ, FS, DATY, and everything in between.
Enjoy![/QUOTE]I read your previous report on Sun and you said they take you to a room with the SPs.
Does that mean you get to actually pick the girl you want?
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[QUOTE=Shine21]I think Ahyeon station is not a value for money place. Spend 450k and only got an erected cock when I went out of the place.[/QUOTE]
Sorry about your luck with the dud. I rarely pay more than 100K with my regular girl and get at least one pop, usually two. For every dud there, there is always another that's not such a walletbuster.
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[QUOTE=Jb Life]Hello Fellow Patrons,
I wanted to ask a question but will report first.
I was walking up the hill once though and a girl in a yellow dress came out out BC and tried to hulk me into the bar. For at least 30 seconds she was grabbing and pulling me, I was kinda impressed be her determination but I just started laughing and tried to keep walking.(I'm by no means a big guy, so it was probably easier for her to try that on me than others. Anyway I'll finish with my question, and I'm sorry if it's been answered I couldn't find it and we know bars on the hill change names. Does anyone know if BC Bar a regular girl bar or a tranny bar? Cause if it's regular then I may have to go back and check it out. They seem desperate.[/QUOTE]
Not sure which one is "BC".
If you mean ABC, no worries.
Anyway, the only places on the Hill proper that one needs to be cautious about in re Trannies of which I am aware are Manila and Madrid. Don't know what Manila is like nowadays, but it used to feature some pretty wild TS action. Madrid too. Today the denizen of Madrid is a big, wild one, who may or may not be post-op. Never tried, but witnessed her in action once and all the plumbing seemed to be right; and she squirted a fountain over her date, who seemed well satisfied with the whole round the world experience.
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Alternatives to Superman Anma?
So I've been there done that regarding Superman. Its been a while though and frankly I am not sure if Superman is even still open.
Does anyone have suggestions for alternatives to Superman. And by alternatives, I mean an Anma that is about or at the level of a Superman.
Thanks much.
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Hill and Ahyeon
Shine:
Damn. You spent over $450 to cop a feel? Methinks you need a wingman to show you the ropes. My office is quite close to Ahyeon, so I would be interested to check it out. Can you provide directions to the bar areas?
ABC report:
Two weeks ago Thursday evening, I was walking down the hill, and heard some loud screaming by a disgruntled middle aged bald punter at ABC. Poked my head in, and listened to the punter gripe about spending $500US with no satisfaction! WTF are you guys thinking in dropping that kind of bank? You can get FS for 70-100. Regardless, I came back the following week, curious to see the service skills of the new SP, could see why the punter complained . . .
Update on previous post:
Mamasan was less than sympathetic with my concerns (no surprise), even used the "my clients are scared to come here now with fear of getting scammed" line. Got my girls digits while there (no money spent), lining up "meeting" tonight. Will see what I can pull . . .
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Shine:
Damn. You spent over $450 to cop a feel? Methinks you need a wingman to show you the ropes. My office is quite close to Ahyeon, so I would be interested to check it out. Can you provide directions to the bar areas?[/QUOTE]those bars at Ahyeon station, on the Green line just before Ehwa station. Walking towards Ehwa from Ahyeon, the bars will be on your left. Ahyeon is also a well-known area for wedding dresses, so if you start seeing the wedding shops, you've gone too far. (Can't miss the bars anyway with the girls hanging out in the doorways beckoning you inside)
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]
ABC report:
Two weeks ago Thursday evening, I was walking down the hill, and heard some loud screaming by a disgruntled middle aged bald punter at ABC. Poked my head in, and listened to the punter gripe about spending $500US with no satisfaction! WTF are you guys thinking in dropping that kind of bank? You can get FS for 70-100. Regardless, I came back the following week, curious to see the service skills of the new SP, could see why the punter complained . . .
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Take your word about the SP; is Su-jin gone? The biggest problem with ABC is Mamasan, she's an utter troll and even more dishonest and unscrupulous. I think the only way she manages to stay in business is by occasionally luring some really innocent and attractive new SP to work there until she figures out that she can do better elsewhwere.
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ABC mamasan
kw - i might be able to clarify one of my earlier posts. i don't want to digress on it but i wasn't aware of where i was walking when i first posted.
if the mamasan you are referring to is a fat troll in a club in the abc range of bars, is over agressive, speaks a little broken english and seems to be watching over 1-2 girls when other bars are run by one or two actual providers - that's the club i wandered into and was offered what looked like an **** sp.
maybe i'm naive about what goes on in seoul but it didn't look kosher to me. if she's the same woman then i couldn't agree more that she's enough to keep guys out with her pushiness imho.
[quote=kimchi warrior]take your word about the sp; is su-jin gone? the biggest problem with abc is mamasan, she's an utter troll and even more dishonest and unscrupulous. i think the only way she manages to stay in business is by occasionally luring some really innocent and attractive new sp to work there until she figures out that she can do better elsewhwere.[/quote]
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Bad experience at Apple
I've been really busy at work lately so no time to post, but I wanted to warn you guys about a girl to avoid at Apple. Her name stars with a Y, I thinks it's Yumi or something like that. She's pretty, mid-late 20's, I think she had braces. Anyways, she has a terrible attitude, kept complaining the whole time, and she seems to have a phobia of semen or something like that. Terrible experience. It's not Sumi, I met her there a couple weeks before this, and although she looks plain looking, as Kimchi Warrior said (I think?) her attitude is a little better and she actually has a nice body, firm tittes and a nice little ass. But masculine-looking face, IMHO. Anyway, look out for the college looking girl at Apple.
I'm done with mongering in this country, just booked a trip to Thailand in May; the ticket price is less than what Shine21 paid to get a hard on!
Good luck mongering in Korea, guys.
Ezinho out.
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Nightclub in Korea
Went to nightclub with a foriegner friend last night. Have difficulty with the girls due to my poor Korean language skills. Only a girl with some basic english skills sat with us for more than 20 minutes.
I have been in Korea for about a 1 year but have never visited a night club. Any advice if the girls are working girls. Curious what motivates them to visit a night club and get pulled around to sit with other men. Are they looking for a ons-hook up or are they working girls.
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Take your word about the SP; is Su-jin gone? The biggest problem with ABC is Mamasan, she's an utter troll and even more dishonest and unscrupulous. I think the only way she manages to stay in business is by occasionally luring some really innocent and attractive new SP to work there until she figures out that she can do better elsewhwere.[/QUOTE]
Haven't seen Su-jin in a while. Last time she actually looked really good. Got her digits if interested.
I concur with troll Mamasan. I am on her good side (generally) so she usually lines up the fresh ones for me, often asking me to "train them". Many don't last there, which is okay with me.
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Haven't seen Su-jin in a while. Last time she actually looked really good. Got her digits if interested.
I concur with troll Mamasan. I am on her good side (generally) so she usually lines up the fresh ones for me, often asking me to "train them". Many don't last there, which is okay with me.[/QUOTE]
LOL; she's asked me to provide the same service from time to time. The problem is just when you've got 'em where you want 'em, they disappear, and if you haven't gotten the digits, it's another case of catch and release. Mamasan just too f**ing loud and pushy and constantly makes deals she backtracks on while noisily defending her "right" to do so as a "businesswoman". I just can't stand the drama any more.
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[quote=ilovechicas]kw - i might be able to clarify one of my earlier posts. i don't want to digress on it but i wasn't aware of where i was walking when i first posted.
if the mamasan you are referring to is a fat troll in a club in the abc range of bars, is over agressive, speaks a little broken english and seems to be watching over 1-2 girls when other bars are run by one or two actual providers - that's the club i wandered into and was offered what looked like an **** sp.
maybe i'm naive about what goes on in seoul but it didn't look kosher to me. if she's the same woman then i couldn't agree more that she's enough to keep guys out with her pushiness imho.[/quote]
yeah, i guess that's where you landed. i wouldn't worry about anyone being **** on the hill. lol. and as jr noted, she frequently has some really attractive fresh talent, and you can get good service there, but mamasan is a world -class libido killer.
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[QUOTE=Shine21]those bars at Ahyeon station, on the Green line just before Ehwa station. Walking towards Ehwa from Ahyeon, the bars will be on your left. Ahyeon is also a well-known area for wedding dresses, so if you start seeing the wedding shops, you've gone too far. (Can't miss the bars anyway with the girls hanging out in the doorways beckoning you inside)[/QUOTE]
If you're going to just cut-and-paste another's posts, the least you can do is leave it attributed to them.
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[QUOTE=Shine21]Went to nightclub with a foriegner friend last night. Have difficulty with the girls due to my poor Korean language skills. Only a girl with some basic english skills sat with us for more than 20 minutes.
I have been in Korea for about a 1 year but have never visited a night club. Any advice if the girls are working girls. Curious what motivates them to visit a night club and get pulled around to sit with other men. Are they looking for a ons-hook up or are they working girls.[/QUOTE]
not working girls. perfectly normal every day girls. The working girls are usually "working" during those hours.
going to a Korean "booking" nightclub is perfectly acceptable here.
the women also have complete freedom to ditch you at the table (after the least amount of time spent for politeness purposes) , even if they were brought over in a headlock by the waiter :)
It serves as a good hook up scene for the locals, one night stands are not uncommon, because you can just both drunk stumble over to a nearby love motel.
as a waygoogin, you're going to be SOL, unless you can speak decent Korean.
Korean booking clubs aren't cheap, always best to go in a group so you can split the tab, since to get a table you have to buy the way overpriced alcohol and fruit tray. Besides, if you went alone, the Koreans would find you extremely strange and avoid you to begin with. (Koreans never go anywhere or do anything alone).
I've been told there are some booking clubs in Seoul where a decent percentage of the women will speak at least some English.
You should try those.
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Good to see Cheongryangni, Miari and Yongsan is still
I miss those places.
Anyone been to Paju lately?
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Belle
[QUOTE=Swallow77]Tried to check out the rlds and anmas today, came up empty handed despite following all the directions, so if someone is kind enough, please answer the following for me.
1) Couldn't find 'cool' or 'belle' despite making the turn at prudential building. Are they closed? I went to the stairway (with green glass around) to try to go to the basement to take a peak as the directions indicated but was told there's nothing but constructions going on.
2) Need better direction to 'ace', saw some anma places but couldn't find ace around the gangnamgu station.
3) What time does s anma open? Because earlier I couldn't find it coming out of he yoerksam station, didn't know need to walk that far. Eventually saw it when I was in a taxi going to check out somewhere else. Went back later on and the door was locked with couple of signs in Korean that I don't understand. Perhaps they were full or too quiet because of the snow?
4) Finally, tried to check out Miari rld but nothing seem to be open? Is that because of the weather again?
Please help! Two more days in Seoul![/QUOTE]I visit Belle last week. One girl is really GFE. I remember her name is HARU. She is about 21y old, a college student. She gave me BBBJ for a very long time. Although she got small breast, but she just like a angel to me. Anyone has the same experience at Belle?
I never been to COOL so no command about it. But I definitely will go to Belle again next time.
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Belle
I visit Belle last week. One girl is really GFE. I remember her name is HARU. She is about 21y old, a college student. She gave me BBBJ for a very long time. Although she got small breast, but she just like a angel to me. Anyone has the same experience at Belle?
I never been to COOL so no command about it. But I definitely will go to Belle again next time.
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Previous two same post
Sorry guys for two same post, because I'm first time here and don't know how it works.
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[QUOTE=Shine21]Went to nightclub with a foriegner friend last night. Have difficulty with the girls due to my poor Korean language skills. Only a girl with some basic english skills sat with us for more than 20 minutes.
I have been in Korea for about a 1 year but have never visited a night club. Any advice if the girls are working girls. Curious what motivates them to visit a night club and get pulled around to sit with other men. Are they looking for a ons-hook up or are they working girls.[/QUOTE]
re "motivation on visiting night club and getting pulled to site with other men".
it's cultural (Korean "culture" is bizarro by Western standards). Some of these things are changing, but broad vestiges remain.
- it's not expected of a female to show interest in a man, even if she happens to have it. She's also expected to initially rebuff/refuse advances even if she welcomes them.
- AND (and this is where the booking clubs and "jazz bars" come in). Koreans cannot meet other Koreans by saying hello on the street, in a store, etc etc.
You are supposed to be introduced. If you're not introduced you may as well be an alien and will be treated/ignored as such.
in a booking club, the waiter culturally serves as the "introducing service", which works nicely for both Korean males and females looking to meet others of the opposite sex.
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Cheongnyangni
I took the subway down to the Cheongnyangni zone for a first time stroll (line 1 east side of downtown). It was a pretty cold and windy night so my intention was not to really stay for long or do much more than kill an hour for a walk.
It must have been quite a place in its heyday. I'm guessing more than half of the "aquariums" looked out of service though I'm guessing 10pm is still pretty early for the area. The girls who were there largely ignored me and at least initially I was worried I was in for a repeat of another unplanned stop at the Pyongtaek zone with no one really willing to pollute their surroundings with a foreigner. Things were a bit different here.
I took an overall stroll to get a sense of the place and was accosted by a roving crowd of older women trying to get me to check out various rooms off of the furthest side street. I went in a number of them out of curiosity but what I saw wasn't too tempting though I guess people come and go there? I'd be curious to know if anyone's had any luck there? The prices were certainly lower (if you don't get changed up on after getting the clothes off). I eventually sat around one for a few minutes to see what might get offered. The older lady tried to take my shoes but I took them off myself and kept them near me fearing a "shoe kidnapping" which could only be resolved by the loss of extra cash. Nothing was shown that interested me so I left the little street.
At any rate, I was rejected or simply ignored by the majority of girls working the lighted booths there - the back side street of the zone (defined on one side by a freeway or street wall - this street eventually merges into the little street with the old ladies hawking middle aged women just locate it) was by far the friendliest about 5 girls seemed willing to do business. I went back to the major street side of the district and found a decent looking girl about 20y/o named Gun Hee. Slender and tall with a super firm body and a decent face I decided to take the plunge. Nice small boobs and smooth skin. BBBJ for a few minutes, CBJ, Mish and cowgirl. 70,000. Her service didn't do her looks justice. She seemed to indicate an hour of service but it must have been 1 pop instead. She didn't exactly rush me out but wasn't into hanging out. Everything was slightly mechanical but functional. I'm sure she had zero interest in me but actually seemed to get wetter as things proceeded. I probably wouldn't repeat but on some level it was worth it. I would probably just as soon take a chance on another provider in the zone. Unfortunately, not many to try out as most won't give you the time of day.
Directions to Gun Hee's storefront. Go to the front of the Lotte Dept. Store and go toward the zone. You'll see two signs straight ahead - Peltier and Cafe W. Walk between them up that street a block. Take the first right and there's a short row of booths to the right just past the garages. She's the last booth of the booths on the right.
El Juero
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Thanks very much, Catire, for a superbly informative post. Jazz bars? What jazz bars? A little more information would be most appreciated.
[QUOTE=Catire]re "motivation on visiting night club and getting pulled to site with other men".
it's cultural (Korean "culture" is bizarro by Western standards). Some of these things are changing, but broad vestiges remain.
- it's not expected of a female to show interest in a man, even if she happens to have it. She's also expected to initially rebuff/refuse advances even if she welcomes them.
- AND (and this is where the booking clubs and "jazz bars" come in). Koreans cannot meet other Koreans by saying hello on the street, in a store, etc etc.
You are supposed to be introduced. If you're not introduced you may as well be an alien and will be treated/ignored as such.
in a booking club, the waiter culturally serves as the "introducing service", which works nicely for both Korean males and females looking to meet others of the opposite sex.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Seoulstice]Thanks very much, Catire, for a superbly informative post. Jazz bars? What jazz bars? A little more information would be most appreciated.[/QUOTE]
from my limited information, they are in effect "hostess bars", where the attractive female bartenders basically keep you company. I met a friend for drinks in one of these in my town. The bar was quite nice, the drinks quite expensive.
it's not pay for play, they cannot leave the premises. I do think it wouldn't be altogether difficult to procure a number though, but meeting her at mutually convenient hours could be difficult considering she'll be working most nights for the duration of the night and probably sleeping all day. ( by meeting her I'm saying for a "date" not a P4P encounter).
This is once again suited for cultural Korean purposes, as this way a Korean male can have female company for drinks, any Korean doing anything alone would be considered a social outcast and a loser. The drinks in these places are (of course) double or triple what you'd usually pay in a 'regular' bar/club.
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Thailand . . .
[QUOTE=Ezinho]
I'm done with mongering in this country, just booked a trip to Thailand in May; the ticket price is less than what Shine21 paid to get a hard on!
Good luck mongering in Korea, guys.
Ezinho out.[/QUOTE]
Just on route back from Land of Smiles. VERY extreme experiences from extremely mind blowing to downright depressing! Damn Katooeys are taking over Pattaya (Walking Street) and Bangkok (Nana Plaza). If interested in check out my posts in Pattaya Reports.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2186[/url]
At least in Korea you know you are getting the genuine article (except post-ops at Madrid and Do-mi at Manila). After some time to recuperate, I look forward to sticking to my regular GFE. The grass is always greener . .
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[QUOTE=Coitus68]Sorry about your luck with the dud. I rarely pay more than 100K with my regular girl and get at least one pop, usually two. For every dud there, there is always another that's not such a walletbuster.[/QUOTE]
Last night went to see my regular girl at Ahyeon station, but she wasn't working. Her coworker remembered me, so I stayed and played. My girl wasn't there, so I think she was trying to "steal" me away from her. Paid 100K for 5 beer and a fruit plate (I guess prices have gone up after all from the previous 50K). Halfway through it all, DFK, HJ, BBBJ, and CIM. Finished the rest of the beer and repeated. Good night after all.
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Hello to all DON's.
Its my first time in Seoul and I haven't tried a single girl, got only two days left. If anyone knows a good place near Ritz Carlton, please, provide me with some info, thanks.
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"Today" is yesterday
just back a few days ago from the hills of central and nortern thailand and, still aving that upland mentality, found myself scoping the hill. here's the latest intel:
"today" and the milf who manned it are gone, replaced by yet another "fantasy". didn't sample the fare but looked in and saw a single, much younger sp.
shamrock, which someone asked about not too long ago seems to have been a flash in the pan; it has not been open on any of the past half dozen times i've been in the vicinity.
mississippi has a very eager to please milf, name of su bin, who has been around about 2.5 months. no beauty, but handsome enough, a little bit the doughgirl, but - again - a very engaging personality. i was sorely tempted, but wanted to save myself from (the ire of) and for my regular (who seems to suss out my every move in the vicinity). lol.
cabin has a "virgin"; don't wet your jock, it's just that yesteray was her first day in the business. bought her a couple of drinks while waiting for my fav, to whose door a couple of punters beat me by seconds. not wanting to deprive her of the ooportunity for some aditional earnings, i signalled to call me and wandered off. ina from apple beckoned, but who needs that drama. so i peeked into cabin. mamasan had another older girl there, but (knowing me) asked me to break in the new girl, young from gangwon-do. i explained that i might not be able to go the distance, because i was expecting a call, but would sit down with her for a while. pleasant-looking, very sweet girl, who doesn't really understand the full nature of what's she getting into (but obviously knows what she's supposed to do). nice a cups and an enthusiastic kisser (the sure sign of a newbie) and a nice hand touch; not sure about the rest because i got the call that my fav had shown the door to the other two jokers (whom she had assessed as rough trade looking to bottom feed) and wanted the sugar she knows and trusts. be forewarned,though, that young has about zero english, which may make for a bit of awkardness (though it's not likely to deter her, at any rate), especially if mamasan tries to help out by sitting in to translate while the game is in progress (she'll graciously bow out, if that's uncomfortable making).
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior] Mamasan had another older girl there, but (knowing me) asked me to break in the new girl, Young from Gangwon-do. I explained that I might not be able to go the distance, because I was expecting a call, but would sit down with her for a while. Pleasant-looking, very sweet girl, who doesn't really understand the full nature of what's she getting into (but obviously knows what she's supposed to do). Nice A cups and an enthusiastic kisser (the sure sign of a newbie) and a nice hand touch; [/QUOTE]
This sounds exactly my spec. Have tonight and tomorrow morning to consider something like this. No clue where it is and how much it would be though. Bah.
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]"Today" and the milf who manned it are gone[/QUOTE]
Mina will be missed (by me anyway). Always a pleasant visit regardless of how long my stay.
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]
Cabin has a "virgin"; don't wet your jock, it's just that yesteray was her first day in the business. [/QUOTE]
Couldn't find newbie at Cabin, just same old cougars. She might have run home already. :) Apple has Thai/Korean girl back (horrible service but cute) and the Deep Throat Gagger.
Nymph bar has a new young cutie (will frequent next time).
New one at top of hill is tall and sexy. I have actually seen her on TV working in fashion!
I need some new young GFE's. Mia is always hit or miss . . .
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Couldn't find newbie at Cabin, just same old cougars. She might have run home already. :) [/QUOTE]
Probably; she wasn't there tonight either, when I poked my head in to look while I was in another holding pattern; instead a couple of those older felines I hadn't seen before but clearly are sprinters (as in separating you from your money for an hour and then rushing you out in 30 minutes tops). Maybe it's worth checking again tomorrow; if she's not there on Friday night, you know she's gone for sure.
[QUOTE]New one at top of hill is tall and sexy. I have actually seen her on TV working in fashion![/QUOTE]
Is that @ "Lily" or thereabouts? Can't remember her name, but if so, she's the one that Korvet described once as a trophy w****, and she's been around for a few years. Started out working for Young Eun @ the old Starbutts (now ING), then moved around a bit, before settling into digs of her own near the top of the Hill proper, before disappearing for awhile. She was pretty ragged looking when she went on hiatus, and if this were the States I'd have thought she was doing vitamin C or M. She was really smoking when she first appeared, though; long legs up to there and way better made-up and dressed than almost all the girls on the Hill, but with a decided Japanese look because she had just returned from Tokyo where she worked for awhile. That's gone now, though, along with the thigh-high leather cavalier boots she was wearing when I first saw her. The only other girl I've seen on the Hill who's been able to carry a pair of those off without looking like a really bad imitation of a Hollywood street walker is Su-eh.
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Outcall service
Hi All ,
Can we get outcall service? Appreciate if someone can PM me some contact.
Has anyone try this pinkescort?
Thank you
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Yup Greener for sure
[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Just on route back from Land of Smiles. VERY extreme experiences from extremely mind blowing to downright depressing! Damn Katooeys are taking over Pattaya (Walking Street) and Bangkok (Nana Plaza). If interested in check out my posts in Pattaya Reports.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2186[/url]
At least in Korea you know you are getting the genuine article (except post-ops at Madrid and Do-mi at Manila). After some time to recuperate, I look forward to sticking to my regular GFE. The grass is always greener . .[/QUOTE]
Yea, grass is always greener. after a few months of the DD cup cum dump, home stay monster, I am thinking Pattaya in May for sure. I sure find myself missing the hill at times, but then I go home and fuck silly and wonder what all the fuss is about. Hit and miss SP's, Katoeys, and the even more worrisome LE Ahole out there.
Eventhough, after all that, I still find the allure of the hunt still, well, alluring. KW, seems like you are still making the rounds doing the intell though. Nes pas?
Carmex-Counting the days till freedom...
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Any good Anma in North Seoul?
Hi,
I live up in North Seoul (Mia-dong). While I've got Miari here, I generally prefer quality over price. Does anyone know of any good anmas reasonably near the area? The ones in Gangnam are great, but it's like traveling to the next city over.
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[QUOTE=Et888]Has anyone try this pinkescort?[/QUOTE]
Providers are late more often than not, and the service does not always provide you with the girl you ask for (and don't tell you ahead of time). Classic bait and switch. When you complain they didn't send the right girl, they tell you they did.
Look, I'm not some rookie fresh off the boat with yellow fever goggles. I can actually tell the difference between Asian people. They do not all look the same. Just be up front and tell me you can't provide me with my choice. Don't lie to me like I'm an idiot.
In addition, the girls don't always speak English. Most of the girls I've met through them (before I said never again) had zero or nearly-zero English, and without my Korean we would have had to resort to hand gestures and grunts to communicate. You're supposed to be paying them by time, but some bolt out the door after you get one pop, whether your time's up or not.
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[QUOTE=Coitus68]Providers are late more often than not, and the service does not always provide you with the girl you ask for (and don't tell you ahead of time). Classic bait and switch. When you complain they didn't send the right girl, they tell you they did.
Look, I'm not some rookie fresh off the boat with yellow fever goggles. I can actually tell the difference between Asian people. They do not all look the same. Just be up front and tell me you can't provide me with my choice. Don't lie to me like I'm an idiot.
In addition, the girls don't always speak English. Most of the girls I've met through them (before I said never again) had zero or nearly-zero English, and without my Korean we would have had to resort to hand gestures and grunts to communicate. You're supposed to be paying them by time, but some bolt out the door after you get one pop, whether your time's up or not.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like you've tried them more than once. A couple of my friends and I tried them a few times on separate occasions and we all found that (like you) the girls pictured on the site are not the ones that will show up to meet you. However, it does make sense; they are advertised as regular girls in school or girls working normal jobs. No normal girl or no girl with any smarts is going to have their pictures posted on an escort site for the world and LE to see especially over here. Most escorts’ sites/agencies are notorious for the bait and switch. Having said that the girls that I saw, while not the ones pictured on the site were quite stunning and accommodating but I actually preferred the ones with little or no English, there's more to that site/agency than meets the eye.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]Sounds like you've tried them more than once. A couple of my friends and I tried them a few times on separate occasions and we all found that (like you) the girls pictured on the site are not the ones that will show up to meet you. However, it does make sense; they are advertised as regular girls in school or girls working normal jobs. No normal girl or no girl with any smarts is going to have their pictures posted on an escort site for the world and LE to see especially over here. Most escorts’ sites/agencies are notorious for the bait and switch. Having said that the girls that I saw, while not the ones pictured on the site were quite stunning and accommodating but I actually preferred the ones with little or no English, there's more to that site/agency than meets the eye.[/QUOTE]Are they real service provider ?They quote me USD200 for 1 hour
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Tall beauty in Moulin Rouge
Haven't seen this posted yet, but there is a tall beauty working in Moulin Rouge. Its a little past King Club and Homo hill on the left. Open the door and go up the steps. I thought I'd check it out one night and was shocked when I saw her. Wow :) She charges a little more for drinks but she is totally worth it trust me. :) Had a few great times. Happy hunting. And does anyone ever get together on here LOL.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]we all found that (like you) the girls pictured on the site are not the ones that will show up to meet you. However, it does make sense[/quote]
No, it doesn't.
[quote]they are advertised as regular girls in school or girls working normal jobs. No normal girl or no girl with any smarts is going to have their pictures posted on an escort site for the world and LE to see especially over here.[/quote]
Then do as most agencies do and post photos with the face blurred/blacked. Or don't put photos up, period.
[quote]Most escorts’ sites/agencies are notorious for the bait and switch.[/quote]
Not the good ones.
[quote]Having said that the girls that I saw, while not the ones pictured on the site were quite stunning and accommodating[/QUOTE]
Doesn't much matter how stunning they are if they're not my type. That's the whole point of the photos, isn't it?
Asian Mystique (in Tokyo) knows how to run a classy agency--and they even update their website weekly (when was the last time pinkescorts updated their website? never?). Pinkescorts are pissant amateurs in comparison. They are a bait-and-switch scam. Fuck'em. They won't get another dime of my money.
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[QUOTE=Coitus68]Asian Mystique (in Tokyo) knows how to run a classy agency--and they even update their website weekly (when was the last time pinkescorts updated their website? never?). Pinkescorts are pissant amateurs in comparison. They are a bait-and-switch scam. Fuck'em. They won't get another dime of my money.[/QUOTE]
Wow! They've got your blood boiling and I certainly won't be their defender but stand by what I wrote even without the point by point rebuttal.
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[QUOTE=Et888]Are they real service provider ?They quote me USD200 for 1 hour[/QUOTE]
They are but as you can see they don't always deliver as promised.
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KW,
Good to see you're still in the game. Sounds like things are more the same than not on the Hill. I've been back in the States for the last several months and am getting ready to spend a year in lovely Kabul ('though I plan to get a little mongering in during periodic R&Rs).
The girl you mentioned was indeed the chick that worked at or next to Lily. She was, by coincidence, my last hookup in Itaewon. We got together the day before I flew from Korea. The only two things of note were that she said she was thinking about putting anal on the menu (she's been getting a lot of requests) and that she "volunteered" for a facial (for an extra 10K won). Not bad overall - a 6 on the shag scale.
Peace,
Korvet
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[QUOTE=Korvet]KW,
Good to see you're still in the game. Sounds like things are more the same than not on the Hill. I've been back in the States for the last several months and am getting ready to spend a year in lovely Kabul ('though I plan to get a little mongering in during periodic R&Rs).
The girl you mentioned was indeed the chick that worked at or next to Lily. She was, by coincidence, my last hookup in Itaewon. We got together the day before I flew from Korea. The only two things of note were that she said she was thinking about putting anal on the menu (she's been getting a lot of requests) and that she "volunteered" for a facial (for an extra 10K won). Not bad overall - a 6 on the shag scale.
Peace,
Korvet[/QUOTE]
Good to hear from you again Korvet; you watch your 6 over there.
I'm surprised by your report of her willingness to put the back door in play; when I first met her she warned about having a tight front entry and, indeed, she had one of the smallest, shallowest, tightest pussies I've ever felt. I thought I was going to hurt her, but that was when she had just entered the local game after returning from Japan :)) ; maybe she loosened up later. I should also add that she's looking better - more like her "original self" -- these days.
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A couple of reconnaissance trips plus.
For those who are interested in checking out Mairi it looks like it could be an interesting place and it seems a bit different from the other RLD's though I'm a newbie in ROK to say the least. It seems like the most interesting environment in Seoul so far – mysterious alleyways filled with mamasans who open up the sliding doors to show you neon lit women in traditional looking clothing. Some pretty girls and some who aren't pretty but who are in pretty clothes. One issue I think I'd have in Mairi is that you can't really see what the girls bodies are like – everyone's wearing the puffy skirts and are sitting down. I expected the cold shoulder routine there but it was a lot friendlier than other places. I was there about 9pm on a Saturday which is obviously early. It looked like I was the only guy down there and the going rate seemed to be 70W. I assuming this is the usual BJ-nibbling-lite followed by FS. I can't vouch for the service you get in that zone but it certainly looks different than the glass houses setup to say the least. I'm open to any recommendations.
If you leave the zone and go to the main street and then cross, you'll see about half a dozen other establishments I'm guessing drinking establishments or tea rooms? I saw a couple of nice looking girls obviously going into one to start working at 9 or so. I'm not sure what they are but it looks interesting for those who have the language abilities.
Today I went to Yeongdeungpo area. If you go to the station and exit the main exit – take a left out and go up the main street. You'll see a series of metal fabricating type places – light industrial zones on your left side of the street. In the neighborhood behind these shops and bordering the Lotte department store/station is a bowery like neighborhood with half a dozen tired out mamasans running around. Who they're pimping is the question. Most seemed to be pimping themselves. I followed one into her "house"and she opened a door to show me a barely awake middle aged woman – nice tits and a decent face. Quoted 40W with the thumb between the fingers. Almost tempting but it was early in the trip still so I passed. This neighborhood is a bit rough – I"d recommend going for the first time during the day to see if it's in your comfort zone. It's a weird little jigsaw of alleyways and residential buildings (tin shacks really), part living zone part ho-zone from what I can tell. I'd be tempted to check it out w/o bringing the ipod, ID etc. For safety's sake. Maybe a great deal can be had back there. Maybe you'll get a bottle across the back of your head. Both seem possible.
If you go back out to the main street and cross over you'll run into a decent size rld zone with the usual set of glass rooms. It was early but these girls were pretty unfriendly. As I recall, a couple of blocks wide and about 4 blocks long.
I shot back toward Seoul Station with a stop at Yongsan station and got out and headed straight across the main street. A couple of blocks further on the other side of the street is a two street five block or so long stretch of glass houses. Still early but the windows were filling up. Not a lot of stunners but the girls were pretty friendly here and one caught my eye in a little alleyway near the far side of the zone. "Lisa Pak" was probably about 30 with some very natural bouncy C's (?), super nice skin and short hair. Firm body and reasonably friendly. I wasn't even looking that seriously but the big boobs with the 5 fingers up in the air got me in the door. Light BJ and kissing with FS. Looks 7 Attifude 7-8 Service 6. Unfortunately a bit mechanical. Probably wouldn't repeat with her but there were some friendly girls there and I'm guessing the more frequently quoted 70W could be knocked down to 60W if you want.
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]
I'm surprised by your report of her willingness to put the back door in play; .[/QUOTE]
Got my finger up to the knuckle, no extra charge (she needs to douche it though :)
She asked me for group sex, so providing an other SP is worth the salt, I may be so inclined . . .
Of course, I will be in heavy competition with you blokes now, can see the price go up . . .
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Got my finger up to the knuckle, no extra charge (she needs to douche it though :)
She asked me for group sex, so providing an other SP is worth the salt, I may be so inclined . . .
Of course, I will be in heavy competition with you blokes now, can see the price go up . . .[/QUOTE]
Well there's a big difference between one finger up to the knuckle and the equiv of 4-5 past the wrist :) ; I'm not convinced she can handle it.
But hey keep up the recon! And no need to watch your six (in any sense of the term) from this direction. :)
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Seoul update?
I'm returning to Seoul here soon for the first time in far to many years. I'm reading through the forum, and I'm catching up with things.
I see that there are a few escort agencies now catering to foreigners. I've seen the chatter about Pink, but does anyone know anything about UEscorts, or Yumi advertising on CL?
My Korean is pretty rusty at this point, but I'll try and scout out a few Anma's and/or BBS around COEX (my old stomping ground) this coming trip. Any pointers to foreigner friendly places appreciated (I saw the note on Sun near Lotte and I may check it out)?
BR
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[QUOTE=BikeRider]
I see that there are a few escort agencies now catering to foreigners. I've seen the chatter about Pink, but does anyone know anything about UEscorts, or Yumi advertising on CL?
BR[/QUOTE]
Caution may be in order. These escort services - and their catering to big-nosed round-eyes - were recently featured in an article in the local press, which also mentioned that LEO was taking an interest.
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This is the deal
Ok,
I've been an ISG lurker for years but a Koreafite for decades. Here is the deal. Korean women are without discussion, some of the finest women in the world AND some of the most challenging for an "migook" to catch. So here are your options:
1. The easy route: go to the hill, sample the bars, find some talent you like and lay down 200 to 1250K to take a nice looking girl back to your hotel room for 1 or 2 hour, BBBJ, covered pop, FK, a nice shower. Maybe longer session if the chemistry is right. Yes, I think I was the first to "transition" SuAeh from gorgeous country girl to club fest girl (over 3 years ago). She was very innocent then and not professional at all then. But I do love those thigh high boots!
2. Go to JJ's at they Hyatt or the club at the Intercontinental, Kangnam, and work the english speaking crowd. Good luck if you speak ZERO Hangul as an icebreaker. But I have scored a few times with this. Both pros and amateurs. Personally, the bar pros at JJ's and inticidentaly are a waste of time. Unless you like fKng a $ fish.
3. Go to a Juicy Bar in Itaewon, spend some bucks, get to know a girl regularly and work it. Most (98%) of these girls are really nice girls who will only go to your room if they are comfortable with you. But once they go with you, your are a made man!. Personally, I recommend On-Y-Va (great new setting, ask Jaquie the bartender for introductions), Black Orchid (the queen bee (Suah) is great and she shares opportunity with her harem), Suah may be one of the sexiest women in Itaewon, Rock & Roll (very relaxing and the Eunji is gorgeous), Footloose, and Justin (look for the long haired girl). Lots of pretty girls and lots of opportunity. One chick at Justin, long hair, very tall and attractive, always sits alone, is a real looker. Not sure of her name but very friendly. May have a regular American BF but only when he is in country.
Good Hunting, and you don't have to pay in Korea. Korean chicks love to be pampered and will passionately fkk your lights out but you may have to work it to a second date.
P58
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[QUOTE=Pilot58]Ok,
I've been an ISG lurker for years but a Koreafite for decades. Here is the deal. Korean women are without discussion, some of the finest women in the world AND some of the most challenging for an "migook" to catch. So here are your options:
3. Go to a Juicy Bar in Itaewon, spend some bucks, get to know a girl regularly and work it. Most (98%) of these girls are really nice girls who will only go to your room if they are comfortable with you. But once they go with you, your are a made man!. Personally, I recommend On-Y-Va (great new setting, ask Jaquie the bartender for introductions), Black Orchid (the queen bee (Suah) is great and she shares opportunity with her harem), Suah may be one of the sexiest women in Itaewon, Rock & Roll (very relaxing and the Eunji is gorgeous), Footloose, and Justin (look for the long haired girl). Lots of pretty girls and lots of opportunity. One chick at Justin, long hair, very tall and attractive, always sits alone, is a real looker. Not sure of her name but very friendly. May have a regular American BF but only when he is in country.
[/QUOTE]
Thanks for an important addition to the database here. I haven't been to any of these places (or the ones that have disappeared - Giorgio's and the other one owned by the same couple) for years, i.e., since the demise of the investment banks whose BSD's paid for my previous adventures in them. And that is all that I have to add on that score - they are generally inordinately expensive, if you expect to get anywhere with the talent in them.
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Kangnam
Back in Seoul, I'll be in Kangnam this weekend, what's the deal these days with those HJ places (Cool, etc.) around the 'Bangbang' intersection? What's the best place these days? any girls you recommend?
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[QUOTE=Darren 33]Back in Seoul, I'll be in Kangnam this weekend, what's the deal these days with those HJ places (Cool, etc.) around the 'Bangbang' intersection? What's the best place these days? any girls you recommend?[/QUOTE]According to one report, Cool is under new management and no longer foreigner friendly, but I'm totally checking it out tomorrow night. Had a great experience there last year. I'm staying near Lotte World tonight and I'm going to scout the area for barber poles.
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[QUOTE=Pilot58]Ok,
I've been an ISG lurker for years but a Koreafite for decades. Here is the deal. Korean women are without discussion, some of the finest women in the world AND some of the most challenging for an "migook" to catch. So here are your options:[/QUOTE]This guy disagrees with the 2nd point in the paragraph:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=994158&postcount=620[/url]
I think he's a clown, so I'll back you on that one.
But I'm afraid I would have to raise a discussion on the first.
Personally, 99% of Korean girls/women leave me with a bad case of limpdick, which has to be cured when I leave the country.
Furthermore, the Korean P4P experience is so clinical, it often makes me wonder why I didn't just use my hand for blueball relief purposes.
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[QUOTE=Pilot58]Good luck if you speak ZERO Hangul as an icebreaker.[/QUOTE]
Being the pedantic prick I am, no one in the entire world speaks hangeul.
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Paju Yongjugol
Does anyone know exactly where yongjugol is? I read some of these directions but it is still really confusing.
Is this place even still alive?
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Tried Cool today. The manager looked to me like the same guy from my last visit one year ago, but he confirmed that they no longer accept foreigners, or at least non-asian. Gyopos and japanese are probably OK though. The place seems very busy, a group of young Koreans was coming in when I left, so I guess they can do without waegook income.
So I went to Belle instead. For those who don't know, you can reach these places by Taxi going to "Bangbang sageori" or from Yangjae station exit 3: go straight north downhill on the large road, then turn left after 5 min walk, at the Prudential tower. Cool is about a hundred meters up on the left, Belle is just a bit after on the right side of the road.
Price at Belle is 70k, the service is a body licking, short BBBJ and then HJ finish by a cute young korean girl wearing only panties. Lots of touching and cuddling involved. Unfortunately, I found out that after 2 years away I'd forgotten most of what little korean I knew, which made communication a bit awkward, but the experience was fun anyway.
Next up, I'll try some RLD. Cheongyangni is the closest commute-wise but lots of bad reviews so I'll probably do Miari or Yongsan instead.
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White Men's Room Salons
Further to Pilot58's recent report and my comment thereon, I recently had an opportunity to check out a several of these venues; the results were surprising and very unexpected.
A very old friend had arrived in town on his first visit to Korea and was keen to be introduced to the local "men's infrastructure". Before launching him into slam-dunk alley with a few surefire recommendations, he treated me to drinks at some of the places mentioned by Pilot 58, viz., Black Orchid, Justin and On Y Va. They are all located on the north side of Itaweon high street in the block just east of the Hamilton Hotel. We spent about 45 minutes in each over the course of the evening. Not sure why - maybe I was emitting very high levels of the right pheremones after a late afternoon session of deadlifts? - but for the price of about 3 ladies drinks at each joint (paid for by my buddy) I managed not only to get three sets of digits with explicit requests for dates but three unsolicited calls the next day for the same. All three were way above average in the looks and personality department and spoke good English. Unfortunately, I was not in a position to really taste the water, though.
As I indictaed in my previous comment on Pilot 58s post, my previous experiences in these places all suggested that one could only expect to get anywhere in these places when your group was dropping some really big bank in them and the girl thought she had a shot at some longterm "sponsorship". I'm not ruling out that the latter is still a factor, but things certainly have changed in the former respect.
May be worth further recon!
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]
I managed not only to get three sets of digits with explicit requests for dates but three unsolicited calls the next day for the same.
As I indictaed in my previous comment on Pilot 58s post, my previous experiences in these places all suggested that one could only expect to get anywhere in these places when your group was dropping some really big bank in them and the girl thought she had a shot at some longterm "sponsorship". I'm not ruling out that the latter is still a factor, but things certainly have changed in the former respect.
May be worth further recon![/QUOTE]
When first arriving in Korea, my game was solely picking these hotties up without spending coin. Usually I would befriend the bartender, and just come to visit her (sometimes start by banging her, and moving on to her friends in the bar). S2, Downstairs (later), Footloose were my venues of choice, being pretty successful, with the most higher end talent that I have met in Korea (local and SP). Just got tired of waiting for them to meet me after they close (3am), or the occasional dinner before they started work (to put in the time). That being said, I am still working on the one who conned me at the corner bar (mentioned in previous post), to meet on her day off. She told me that customers pay over $500 to barfine her, and she will only close the deal if she "really likes the guy". Yeah right . . .
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Booking Club disaster
Finally, after many years of wanting to fulfill my curiousity, I attended a Korean booking club. Here’s the play by play, and I hope to gain some insight and objective analysis by you Expats in Korea (for some peace of mind):
My only close Korean friend of 8 years (met back home first before coming to Korea) convinced me to go to a 20’s only booking club in his hometown (1 hour from Seoul). VIP room was 250,000won total (included 5 beer, 1 bottle whiskey, and Korean snacks), almost half price of Seoul booking clubs.
Started at Western bar (had no people AT ALL), and got digits from the bartender who spoke fluent English, with by far, the most enjoyable conversation I have had with a Korean woman (especially of such beauty). My Korean friend also liked her and I could sense that he was going to make a play as well (got owner’s business card so that he could call her later).
This set the pace for the evening. He promised me no-one else would come, since I stressed the importance that the waiter would only usually pull 2 girls at a time to our room, and it is harder to close the deal (and separate) with more people. I drilled our strategy over and over. I even set up and paid for joining Penthouse rooms in nearby hotel by booking club. Lo and behold, his high school Korean-American buddy was waiting at the door when we arrived (baseball cap and all). To make matters worse, the bouncers stated that “no foreigners” were allowed. Of course, my K friend had assured me that this policy was not in effect before I even considered going. In fact, we went early to reserve the VIP room, and I requested to talk with the manager in advance. Smart move, because manager came to the door later and let us in when bouncers refused.
We all agreed to separate our girls by utilizing the in-room bathroom, and take the other one to dance floor outside. This way the remaining guy could conduct business in the room (not full on of course, waiters check the rooms to make sure everyone has a girl). Rules were: If you offer (or girl requests) beer, it means no interest. If you offer (or girl requests) whiskey it means game on.
Bookings:
1. 3 girls. Mine was young freshman University student, extremely cute (other dudes were envious). Great rapport (even with my very limited Korean). However, her friend didn’t like arrogant attitude of K American guy, so she left. Exchanged digits, and mine soon followed.
2. 2 girls. Nothing for me. My K buddy tried to pawn his girl off on me (was not a looker). She had an English tattoo with the words “Capricious”. She had no clue what it meant. (LOL) My Freshman girl came back and saw her talking to me, and stormed out (dammit).
3. 3 girls. Mine was superhot. Tall, fantastic body, great attitude, and really fun. We made out dancing in the room. Once again, K buddies were jealous (see where this is going . . .). Her friend didn’t like my K friend, so I exchanged digits (she lives in Mokdong), kissed and the girls moved on.
4. 2 girls. Not bad looking, long muscular legs (were professional bowlers). K American dude didn’t seem interested, tried to pawn off to me (token gesture), but she felt more comfortable with him. My K buddy was smitten with his. So I tried to scout out a single for me. Strangely, no girls would come to the room without a waiter dragging them, with them kicking and screaming not to go (ridiculous protocol). Of course, by this time, the club knew a foreigner was present. Hence, no more bookings for me. I even asked countless waiters to help me out. No dice. Eventually, I was frustrated and asked my K buddy to assist. No luck. At this point, I was feeling pretty uncomfortable and realized that I was not going to get any play. K American dude kept stating he “wasn’t interested” in his, but everyone ignored my suggestion to get some new bookings (told K buddy to get digits and move on).
K American dude took girls to dance floor, then out for soju.
5. My K buddy appeared stressed (since I was not pleased about not hooking up), and requested waiter for 1 girl. Waiter obliged (for him), but next one didn’t drink, so we sent her packing.
6. 2 girls. Mine was young Uni student, cutey style. His wanted to go Ozzie land to study English. Did the switch, sang/rapped to some songs (karaoke). Holding hands, little kissing, etc. My K buddy kept going outside to take calls from his previous girl waiting at soju spot with K American dude (who still claimed he wan’t gonna lay pipe-even though he then took them to hotel). Of course, the girls picked up on this, so I exchanged digits, and they moved on. My K buddy came back, asking where they went. Duh . . .
7. Went outside, tall S line hottie watching dancefloor (on 2nd floor). Spoke English, pulled her back to room. Her friend was booked, so she was waiting. Convinced her to come back to hotel with me (5am now), but needed wingman for her friend. My K buddy had soon disappeared (left to wingman K American dude), although he had paid the bill. Of course, my girls weren’t going to leave the club to a hotel with a foreigner and no Korean guy. Exchanged digits and left.
8. Frustrated and drunk, I left the club, and scouted for barber shops. 2 had truly nasty specimens, 3rd wasn’t able to see until too late (paid 70). Just wanted massage since the quality was truly nonexistent (especially after being with young meat all night). She really wanted to bang, but I told her to focus on the massage (so she burnt my back with scalding hot towels-heh). Went back to hotel and released watching lousy Korean porn.
Of course, both K dudes scored. Now the reason for my uncharacteristic long post is I am truly tormented on how much of this was the K broads being worried about foreigners (or lack of language maintenance) or due to my K buddy breaking our agreement. My sense is that he catered to his rich high school buddy’s needs first (characteristic of Koreans), knowing full well that I had come all this way to his hometown to make this happen (I had no problem paying for a nightclub in Sinchon-close for both of us). Moreover, he is trying to get an investment deal from K American dude. Either way, he was my last great K hope in some sort of redemption for all the K cock-blockers I have experienced over the many years. It was also a trust building exercise to see if he would cater to the “Koreans” or his commitment to me (important before considering working together in big business projects in future-been giving him small ones).
Or am I just pissed because I couldn’t get laid . . . .
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[QUOTE=Catire]This guy disagrees with the 2nd point in the paragraph:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=994158&postcount=620[/url]
I think he's a clown, so I'll back you on that one.
But I'm afraid I would have to raise a discussion on the first.
Personally, 99% of Korean girls/women leave me with a bad case of limpdick, which has to be cured when I leave the country.
Furthermore, the Korean P4P experience is so clinical, it often makes me wonder why I didn't just use my hand for blueball relief purposes.[/QUOTE]
I second that . . .
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Re Boooking Club Disaster
[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Finally, after many years of wanting to fulfill my curiousity, I attended a Korean booking club. Here’s the play by play, and I hope to gain some insight and objective analysis by you Expats in Korea (for some peace of mind):
Or am I just pissed because I couldn’t get laid . . . .[/QUOTE]
You're (understandably and justifiably) pissed because you found out the hard way that your "friend" wasn't the guy with whom to parachute into enemy territory; hell, he was the enemy. :) Check your mail
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]. I am still working on the one who conned me at the corner bar (mentioned in previous post), to meet on her day off. She told me that customers pay over $500 to barfine her, and she will only close the deal if she "really likes the guy". Yeah right . . .[/QUOTE]
Good Luck with that!!! With that sort of kongjupyung, the only way she is going to learn is by being humiliated, with all the drama that likely would ensue. Best to let it alone. Second best way is NOT buying her out for the purpose (she still gets the dosh), but ostentatiously having a go at one of her co-workers. Then, if there's drama, you get to watch it rather than be enmeshed in it.
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Finally, after many years of wanting to fulfill my curiousity, I attended a Korean booking club. VIP room was 250,000won total (included 5 beer, 1 bottle whiskey, and Korean snacks), almost half price of Seoul booking clubs.[/QUOTE]
"There's a sucker born every minute" is a phrase often credited to P.T. Barnum.
What a waste of money.
No pussy is worth 250.000!
Unless you're banging her everynight for a week!
But, we know who was banging who in this case!
Sorry to read that you got screwed buddy.
Korea is the last place to monger unless one is desperate.
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[QUOTE=Ben2]
No pussy is worth 250.000!
[/QUOTE]
Thankfully my K buddy paid the tab. I am actually more disappointed in losing a 8 year friendship and prospective business partner (he usually introduced me as her older brother), after seeing his true colors. He did have his wingman moments, as few as they were . . .
Was really hoping that he didn't fit the stereotype, as many had warned me. However, unfortunately as K dudes get older they often become more jaded towards foreigners with their chicks (regardless of how much time they spent overseas).
Sticking to my daytime pickups, Itaewon one nighters, and SP's, with the occasional Mia and Anmas . . .
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RE: K friend disaster
[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Thankfully my K buddy paid the tab. I am actually more disappointed in losing a 8 year friendship and prospective business partner (he usually introduced me as her older brother), after seeing his true colors. He did have his wingman moments, as few as they were . . .
Was really hoping that he didn't fit the stereotype, as many had warned me. However, unfortunately as K dudes get older they often become more jaded towards foreigners with their chicks (regardless of how much time they spent overseas). [/QUOTE]Don't be disappointed, you just can't rely on anyone but yourself. I live in Korea and my personal mantra is that the more you stay away from having male Korean friends the better your chances of scoring with their women.
To be more clear, unless you have something they want are you ever going to have a real male Korean friend? Absolutely NO WAY!
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Finally, after many years of wanting to fulfill my curiousity, I attended a Korean booking club. Here’s the play by play, and I hope to gain some insight and objective analysis by you Expats in Korea (for some peace of mind):
My only close Korean friend of 8 years (met back home first before coming to Korea) convinced me to go to a 20’s only booking club in his hometown (1 hour from Seoul). VIP room was 250,000won total (included 5 beer, 1 bottle whiskey, and Korean snacks), almost half price of Seoul booking clubs.
Started at Western bar (had no people AT ALL), and got digits from the bartender who spoke fluent English, with by far, the most enjoyable conversation I have had with a Korean woman (especially of such beauty). My Korean friend also liked her and I could sense that he was going to make a play as well (got owner’s business card so that he could call her later).
This set the pace for the evening. He promised me no-one else would come, since I stressed the importance that the waiter would only usually pull 2 girls at a time to our room, and it is harder to close the deal (and separate) with more people. I drilled our strategy over and over. I even set up and paid for joining Penthouse rooms in nearby hotel by booking club. Lo and behold, his high school Korean-American buddy was waiting at the door when we arrived (baseball cap and all). To make matters worse, the bouncers stated that “no foreigners” were allowed. Of course, my K friend had assured me that this policy was not in effect before I even considered going. In fact, we went early to reserve the VIP room, and I requested to talk with the manager in advance. Smart move, because manager came to the door later and let us in when bouncers refused.
We all agreed to separate our girls by utilizing the in-room bathroom, and take the other one to dance floor outside. This way the remaining guy could conduct business in the room (not full on of course, waiters check the rooms to make sure everyone has a girl). Rules were: If you offer (or girl requests) beer, it means no interest. If you offer (or girl requests) whiskey it means game on.
Bookings:
1. 3 girls. Mine was young freshman University student, extremely cute (other dudes were envious). Great rapport (even with my very limited Korean). However, her friend didn’t like arrogant attitude of K American guy, so she left. Exchanged digits, and mine soon followed.
2. 2 girls. Nothing for me. My K buddy tried to pawn his girl off on me (was not a looker). She had an English tattoo with the words “Capricious”. She had no clue what it meant. (LOL) My Freshman girl came back and saw her talking to me, and stormed out (dammit).
3. 3 girls. Mine was superhot. Tall, fantastic body, great attitude, and really fun. We made out dancing in the room. Once again, K buddies were jealous (see where this is going . . .). Her friend didn’t like my K friend, so I exchanged digits (she lives in Mokdong), kissed and the girls moved on.
4. 2 girls. Not bad looking, long muscular legs (were professional bowlers). K American dude didn’t seem interested, tried to pawn off to me (token gesture), but she felt more comfortable with him. My K buddy was smitten with his. So I tried to scout out a single for me. Strangely, no girls would come to the room without a waiter dragging them, with them kicking and screaming not to go (ridiculous protocol). Of course, by this time, the club knew a foreigner was present. Hence, no more bookings for me. I even asked countless waiters to help me out. No dice. Eventually, I was frustrated and asked my K buddy to assist. No luck. At this point, I was feeling pretty uncomfortable and realized that I was not going to get any play. K American dude kept stating he “wasn’t interested” in his, but everyone ignored my suggestion to get some new bookings (told K buddy to get digits and move on).
K American dude took girls to dance floor, then out for soju.
5. My K buddy appeared stressed (since I was not pleased about not hooking up), and requested waiter for 1 girl. Waiter obliged (for him), but next one didn’t drink, so we sent her packing.
6. 2 girls. Mine was young Uni student, cutey style. His wanted to go Ozzie land to study English. Did the switch, sang/rapped to some songs (karaoke). Holding hands, little kissing, etc. My K buddy kept going outside to take calls from his previous girl waiting at soju spot with K American dude (who still claimed he wan’t gonna lay pipe-even though he then took them to hotel). Of course, the girls picked up on this, so I exchanged digits, and they moved on. My K buddy came back, asking where they went. Duh . . .
7. Went outside, tall S line hottie watching dancefloor (on 2nd floor). Spoke English, pulled her back to room. Her friend was booked, so she was waiting. Convinced her to come back to hotel with me (5am now), but needed wingman for her friend. My K buddy had soon disappeared (left to wingman K American dude), although he had paid the bill. Of course, my girls weren’t going to leave the club to a hotel with a foreigner and no Korean guy. Exchanged digits and left.
8. Frustrated and drunk, I left the club, and scouted for barber shops. 2 had truly nasty specimens, 3rd wasn’t able to see until too late (paid 70). Just wanted massage since the quality was truly nonexistent (especially after being with young meat all night). She really wanted to bang, but I told her to focus on the massage (so she burnt my back with scalding hot towels-heh). Went back to hotel and released watching lousy Korean porn.
Of course, both K dudes scored. Now the reason for my uncharacteristic long post is I am truly tormented on how much of this was the K broads being worried about foreigners (or lack of language maintenance) or due to my K buddy breaking our agreement. My sense is that he catered to his rich high school buddy’s needs first (characteristic of Koreans), knowing full well that I had come all this way to his hometown to make this happen (I had no problem paying for a nightclub in Sinchon-close for both of us). Moreover, he is trying to get an investment deal from K American dude. Either way, he was my last great K hope in some sort of redemption for all the K cock-blockers I have experienced over the many years. It was also a trust building exercise to see if he would cater to the “Koreans” or his commitment to me (important before considering working together in big business projects in future-been giving him small ones).
Or am I just pissed because I couldn’t get laid . . . .[/QUOTE]
I give you high props for just finding a hottie and in a short amount of time get her to go to a hotel with you. Especially a S-line (that's voluptuous, as in having some hips and T/A, for you confused types, and IMO a big rarity in Korea)
I can't comment on your trust issues, but in situations such as these each guy will look out first and foremost for his own cock, even more so when booze is involved. Then he'll look out for prospective future business interests. Seems both things may have played a part in all of this but I'm somewhat confused as to what exactly your buddy did "wrong". What were your expectations of him?
(and as you noted, Koreans are prodigious waygoogin cockblockers). Interesting how the kyopo guy put some of the girls off. Have heard stories about such things.
if I had to bet on why you didn't get any, it would simply be that without appropriate "cover", which could've only been provided by your Korean companions, yes, there's no way she's going to be seen leaving alone with a foreigner, especially outside of Seoul.
You should feel good that you had girls come over in a booking club outside of Seoul in the first place, much less making out with some, much less actually getting one to agree to go a to hotel.
one can get one night stands, etc in booking clubs, but it's certainly not guaranteed, much less the norm. (and as a foreigner, your odds plummet. I suspect the only reason you even did as well as you did, is because you were flashing some bank with that VIP room)
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Around Coex Intercontinental
First post and first time / first night in Seoul. Here for three nights. Had a wander around opposite the Seven Luck Casino and seems to be lots of spinning poles...
What's the deal? These places FS or only HJ? Saw the VIP place mentioned in earlier posts but couldn't figure out where the entrance was.
More used to the saunas in Shanghai and regular shops in Sydney. Looking for high end and best qulaity if possible around here. Money not really a problem. Any help appreciated.
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[QUOTE=Mekongmekong]First post and first time / first night in Seoul. Here for three nights. Had a wander around opposite the Seven Luck Casino and seems to be lots of spinning poles...
What's the deal? These places FS or only HJ? Saw the VIP place mentioned in earlier posts but couldn't figure out where the entrance was.
More used to the saunas in Shanghai and regular shops in Sydney. Looking for high end and best qulaity if possible around here. Money not really a problem. Any help appreciated.[/QUOTE]
probably FS anmas.
if you feel like you have money to burn, you're in the right country to burn it.
Especially in terms of P4P.
go to a Gangnam room salon with some Korean associates, and they'll give the thickness of your wallet a good run for its money.
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Sincheon Cleopatra
Long time reader, first time poster of this forum, I want to thank the contributor for the valuable informations found here.
Usually when in Seoul, I am located north of the Han river and therefore decided to try the massage/hand job joint called Cleopatra in the Sincheon area. This was mentioned by Looking Inrok.
Directions were accurate : take exit 8 at Sincheon station walk straight 100 yards and you should see a 3/4 floors building with “Night Club” written on top and a bowling pin at the basement. Just take the small alley left directly after this building walk around 30 yards and Cleopatra should be on your right. It is written only in Hangeul : cleo masaji 클래오 마사지 up the door, and Cleopatra 클레오파트라 on the door.
I am personnaly a fan of Daum Map as it is easy to get an idea of the directions before turning and turning around the streets of Seoul. Here is the Daum map link for accurate location :
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=485631&wy=1126622&level=2&panoid=4262690&zoom=-1&pan=261.4986619292598&tilt=3.0428182636630092&poi=false&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&screenMode=vertical[/url]
Place is in the basement, as usual. As I entered a young guy requested 70,000 Won, he asked me if it was the first time here (which was the case) and how I did know about the place. My white face was no problem. Communication was in basic Korean. He explained again : no sex just blow job hand job. Time limited to 40 minutes.
Same procedure as in the joints of Kangnam : undress, shower, back in the room and wait until the agashi comes in. Just that there is no ring bell to press here like in “Belle” and the guy went to ask if I was ready before sending the girl.
My lady came in. Her name was Hana, a solid 7 at least for both face and body. She told me about being a student at the kyeonggi university. After a so-so massage performed while wearing a kind of sexy white dress and no panty (!), she then undressed completely, licked me from my ears to my balls and performed a good and long blow job. She took some gel and finished me with a professional hand job. I was very happy.
It is not a real GFE as Hana kept a professional distance, positioned herself during operations so that her intimate parts remained out of reach, and did not kiss on the lips but on the chicks and everywhere else, but she was friendly and the blow job was first really good. “Action” did not last more than 25 minutes. I showered and Hana came back for some time more (10 minutes ?) to chatt and have a drink. I left satisfied and will probably come back if I happen to pass in this area again.
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Police bust prostitution ring targeting expatriates
Many people saw this coming, especially after the story made the rounds in the local papers but apparently UE Escorts did not so they were busted. Be careful out there!
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2010-04-28 19:38
A former U.S. soldier was arrested by the police on charges of brokering prostitution online. The Gangdong Police Station on Tuesday arrested a 27-year-old U.S. citizen identified by his initial L and also booked six of the prostitutes. People who bought sex on the site or exchanged phone calls or emails with him will also face investigation, police officials said. The man opened a website, claiming to introduce foreign men here to dates or female escorts who were in fact prostitutes. He posted naked photographs of the hired women, with their faces hidden.Below the pictures were marked the women’s age, available hours and their hourly fee, of which 20-50 percent were handed over to L.
The prostitutes, from countries such as Russia, Vietnam and the Philippines, were mostly hired through online job ads supposedly looking for waitresses.
A total of 200 customers have so far used the website, most of them being U.S. soldiers or native English speakers working here, according to the police.
Under the present law, those caught for brokering prostitution on the Internet are to face a maximum jail term of three years or a maximum fine of 30 million won ($26,834). A newspaper made a report earlier this month about such websites and the rampant online prostitution practices which go unnoticed on the Internet. The police were largely unaware of the websites, according to the report. The Gangdong Police Station began the investigation afterward, police said, sending in a female officer undercover to collect evidence.
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Incheon
BY reading here and there on this forum it seems there is nothing for mongerers in the airport vicinity or in the nreaby hotels (MP, sauna or whatever).
Am I right?
I will be spending a long overnight in an airport hotel and wass just wondering whether there is any chance to sample a korean girl in her homeground...
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]Many people saw this coming, especially after the story made the rounds in the local papers but apparently UE Escorts did not so they were busted. Be careful out there!
The Gangdong Police Station began the investigation afterward, police said, sending in a female officer undercover to collect evidence.[/QUOTE]
Wondering who has been banging that female officer:)
Surprised that LE did not know...
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]Many people saw this coming, especially after the story made the rounds in the local papers but apparently UE Escorts did not so they were busted. Be careful out there!
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2010-04-28 19:38
A former U.S. soldier was arrested by the police on charges of brokering prostitution online. The Gangdong Police Station on Tuesday arrested a 27-year-old U.S. citizen identified by his initial L and also booked six of the prostitutes. People who bought sex on the site or exchanged phone calls or emails with him will also face investigation, police officials said. The man opened a website, claiming to introduce foreign men here to dates or female escorts who were in fact prostitutes. He posted naked photographs of the hired women, with their faces hidden.Below the pictures were marked the women’s age, available hours and their hourly fee, of which 20-50 percent were handed over to L.
The prostitutes, from countries such as Russia, Vietnam and the Philippines, were mostly hired through online job ads supposedly looking for waitresses.
A total of 200 customers have so far used the website, most of them being U.S. soldiers or native English speakers working here, according to the police.
Under the present law, those caught for brokering prostitution on the Internet are to face a maximum jail term of three years or a maximum fine of 30 million won ($26,834). A newspaper made a report earlier this month about such websites and the rampant online prostitution practices which go unnoticed on the Internet. The police were largely unaware of the websites, according to the report. The Gangdong Police Station began the investigation afterward, police said, sending in a female officer undercover to collect evidence.[/QUOTE]
Here's an even better, and more disturbing, account, culled from the native language press: [url]http://www.rjkoehler.com/2010/04/28/oh-no-not-the-morally-lax-*****mongering-foreigners/#comments.:[/url]
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[QUOTE=Haynese]Don't be disappointed, you just can't rely on anyone but yourself. I live in Korea and my personal mantra is that the more you stay away from having male Korean friends the better your chances of scoring with their women.
To be more clear, unless you have something they want are you ever going to have a real male Korean friend? Absolutely NO WAY![/QUOTE]First, I have no clue why Jack Rabbit is pissed. Because he paid for the booking club or he didn't get laid, or maybe a combination of both.
But I don't see how his native Korean friend did any cock-blocking. Maybe I misread something, but it just seems that either:
1. The girls were not into Jack Rabbit.
2. Jack Rabbit has no game.
I don't know, but 250, 000W is like 1 person in a real booking in Seoul. The VIP room in Eden runs around 2, 000, 000won. So it's not like this is a significant sum in terms of clubs. Maybe outside Seoul, but why even bother?
Second, as for the comment above, I'm dumbfounded. When I lived in Korea for 3 years, my native friends would always try to help me out, be it with girls, money, translating stuff, etc.
Third, I have a very close friend from my elementary school days living in Korea for the pas 5 years. Although he is white, he gets a ton of p-sy! And the chicks he sees are model-like hot. Of course, he doesn't act like a typically baek-in douchebag from the States, and actually treats women very well.
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It also says next target is Pink
[QUOTE=Run Mann]Many people saw this coming, especially after the story made the rounds in the local papers but apparently UE Escorts did not so they were busted. Be careful out there!
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2010-04-28 19:38
A former U.S. soldier was arrested by the police on charges of brokering prostitution online. The Gangdong Police Station on Tuesday arrested a 27-year-old U.S. citizen identified by his initial L and also booked six of the prostitutes. People who bought sex on the site or exchanged phone calls or emails with him will also face investigation, police officials said. The man opened a website, claiming to introduce foreign men here to dates or female escorts who were in fact prostitutes. He posted naked photographs of the hired women, with their faces hidden.Below the pictures were marked the women’s age, available hours and their hourly fee, of which 20-50 percent were handed over to L.
The prostitutes, from countries such as Russia, Vietnam and the Philippines, were mostly hired through online job ads supposedly looking for waitresses.
A total of 200 customers have so far used the website, most of them being U.S. soldiers or native English speakers working here, according to the police.
Under the present law, those caught for brokering prostitution on the Internet are to face a maximum jail term of three years or a maximum fine of 30 million won ($26,834). A newspaper made a report earlier this month about such websites and the rampant online prostitution practices which go unnoticed on the Internet. The police were largely unaware of the websites, according to the report. The Gangdong Police Station began the investigation afterward, police said, sending in a female officer undercover to collect evidence.[/QUOTE][url]http://www.cyworld.com/01063184664/618971[/url]
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The police got the information of Pink and UE escort from Craigslist and it says their next target is Pink and already started to work on them.
Be careful.
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2. It also says next target is Pink.
[QUOTE=Run Mann]Many people saw this coming, especially after the story made the rounds in the local papers but apparently UE Escorts did not so they were busted. Be careful out there!
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2010-04-28 19:38
A former U.S. soldier was arrested by the police on charges of brokering prostitution online. The Gangdong Police Station on Tuesday arrested a 27-year-old U.S. citizen identified by his initial L and also booked six of the prostitutes. People who bought sex on the site or exchanged phone calls or emails with him will also face investigation, police officials said. The man opened a website, claiming to introduce foreign men here to dates or female escorts who were in fact prostitutes. He posted naked photographs of the hired women, with their faces hidden.Below the pictures were marked the women’s age, available hours and their hourly fee, of which 20-50 percent were handed over to L.
The prostitutes, from countries such as Russia, Vietnam and the Philippines, were mostly hired through online job ads supposedly looking for waitresses.
A total of 200 customers have so far used the website, most of them being U.S. soldiers or native English speakers working here, according to the police.
Under the present law, those caught for brokering prostitution on the Internet are to face a maximum jail term of three years or a maximum fine of 30 million won ($26,834). A newspaper made a report earlier this month about such websites and the rampant online prostitution practices which go unnoticed on the Internet. The police were largely unaware of the websites, according to the report. The Gangdong Police Station began the investigation afterward, police said, sending in a female officer undercover to collect evidence.[/QUOTE]I forgot. One more important thing.
My friend told me it says the police already have 41 customers info. Of Pink.
But I have no idea if the Pink knows this or not. Anyway their web site shows their phone number, it's a very stupid idea. But maybe good for their business. In Korea. If you are willing to contact some escort, go find some agency or independent which has a strict procedure. The police think they are not easy and let it go.. Especially independent. They prefer some big agency.
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The Bust
I know some people who used UE and Pink this past winter. Should I tell them to start packing? According to the report they have a list of 4000 names. Does that mean there will be that many arrests? Or will there be just a few as an example? Is there any kind of precedent for this?
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LOL Your youth is showing kid. Give it some time and you won't mind paying that.
[QUOTE=Ben2]"There's a sucker born every minute" is a phrase often credited to P. T. Barnum.
What a waste of money.
No pussy is worth 250. 000!
Unless you're banging her everynight for a week!
But, we know who was banging who in this case!
Sorry to read that you got screwed buddy.
Korea is the last place to monger unless one is desperate.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Anduher]I forgot. One more important thing.
My friend told me it says the police already have 41 customers info. Of Pink.
But I have no idea if the Pink knows this or not. Anyway their web site shows their phone number, it's a very stupid idea. But maybe good for their business. In Korea. If you are willing to contact some escort, go find some agency or independent which has a strict procedure. The police think they are not easy and let it go.. Especially independent. They prefer some big agency.[/QUOTE]
Well I’m sure they know as they have modified their web site and are no longer aggressively advertising on CL. Not sure what you mean by strict procedure but anyone using any escort agency or sex provider (shops) in Korea should use caution to protect themselves and not depend on any agency to protect them. There's a long list of customers who have been busted because they were careless in using escort agencies/MPs. This bust reads like a repeat of the sex crackdown of a few years ago when the cops used the shop's (they busted) records containing customer’s name/phone/credit card numbers to make arrest and prosecute people after the act.
UE escorts are novices or idiots as they clearly did not know how the sex trade works in Korea and made themselves a target. It’s always easy to analyze after the fact but much of this has been said before; never use your credit card to purchase sex in any establishment in Korea and never use your real info (name/phone number/email address) as it can come back to bite you. Also the military guys who got caught can look forward to the military bending them over too as it’s a crime for them to engage in prostitution.
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Renaissance Area - paydirt
[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]After my excursion in the back alleys of Soellung Station and a little R&R at "Call", I headed over to the Renaissance to recon for the much talked about Baek Sung.
For those comng from further afield, and automotively-challenged, your best bets are either Seollung Station or Yeoksam Station on the subway. From Seollung, leave by the most northwesterly exit (sorry, don't know the exit #, but you want a little challenge don; t you? ), and proceed west along the northside of the big boulevard, Teheran-no, a few blocks until you reach the Renaissance Hotel. As I said it's about a ten minute walk, and the Hotel can't be missed.
For those getting off at Yeoksam, do the reverse: exit at the most northeasterly access stairway and walk due east along the northside of Teheran-no until you reach the hotel. It's probably a little closer to Yeosam than Seollung.
When you get to the Hotel go to the side street running north along its west side. For those who are directionally-challenged, look for the Buy the Way convenience store that is on te corner of the side street and Teheran-no.
The usual suspects are all located on the three alleys that run west (left) and generally uphill off the side street. There are at least a dozen or more establishments, and they are that: most are 5-6 story buildings of substantial size.
According to a previous poster, the renowned Baek Sung is on the second alley about a third to halfway up in a Mediterranean-style building. I didn't see anything I would describe as Mediterranean, but there was a building in a sort of pastiche of late Renaissance-eraly Baroque style, with vestigial ironwork balconies tacked onto the windows on the front facade, in the indicated location. If it is indeed the former Baek Song, it's now called Myeong Ka, but the sign (over the door) is in Hangul. The other principal visual features are the main entrance at the lower right hand corner of the building, flanked on the left side by 2 or 3 narrow display windows behind which are mannequins decked out in elaborate feathered gowns, nest to which is the car park with the famous Korean "modesty curtains".[/QUOTE]I was in Seoul ten days ago and had done my research on the Forum. I really wanted to try an anma; anyone can arrange an in-call in any major city in the world. A major goal of international mongering is the local experience. Thanks to the Forum, I took away the lesson of "go early", and go to a foreigner-friendly venue. The best bet seemed to be down by the Renaissance, lots of options, especially as the directions were so clear.
I tried the first side street and saw northing that looked like massage, though there were some clubs. The third side street had dozen of clubs, but nothing that looked like an anma massage. The middle street had three, right in a row, on the north side. The first one, Queen, told me at 1130 to come back in two hours. It had a big sign out front in English as well as Korean; the symbol is the queen from a deck of cards. Can't miss it. The next two (the middle one was probably once upon a time the Baek Sung as the building fits the description quoted) told me that they were reserved for Koreans only. To kill time, I checked out the surrounding area and found at least a half dozen other anma, all of which told me "no foreigners".
At 1300 I returned to Queen, was welcomed, paid Won 200, 000, and was taken upstairs by the papasan, a young chap with some English. He took me to the room, perhaps 3X4 meters, which had a bathroom area carved out of one corner, clear glass walls, shower, sink, and toilet. I had drawn "Jenny", a very petite woman aged about 30, cute enough, but not beautiful. After a decent interval where we determined the limits of verbal communication, she got naked and undressed me, then headed for the shower, where she washed me thoroughly and not particularly sensually. After drying me off, she put me on the bed and told me in broken English she was going to take a leak and then a shower. Which is what she did, clearly visible through the clear glass walls. I was slightly floored.
Back to bed, all clean, and little pretense of a massage on her part. She licked and kissed and nibbled all over, both sides, which had the desired effect. Liberal roaming allowed, but no kissing. After perhaps 10-12 minutes, she turned 69, presenting a lovely sight (and site!) for additional play, whilst performing a CBJ, which was good, though not extraordinary. Then, without preamble, she swiveled around, inserted me, and spent several minutes up and down, before settling into mish for another few minutes. I took a while and she was quite patient, made the right little sounds, nibbled on the ears, and so on.
Afterwards, she cleaned me up, then, of all things, as part of a face massage, applied a "masque". I was gobsmacked, but was in this for the experience, so acquiesced. In five minutes or so she took off the mask, did a little more face and scalp massage, then got me dressed. One hour on the dot. A quick call and papas an appeared to escort me out. All was very cordial. I believe the Korean price is 180K and that I had paid a small premium. Fair enough.
This was by no means a GFE; it was, however, a look into another world. I could see that with the right vibes, the right setting, this way of doing "massage" business could be very pleasant indeed. I guess that was the only down side to the experience. Having seen its outlines, I know I can never have the full experience.
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tell them they need to go. if they used pink they need to run.
the pimp from pink was arrested last year and he gave his customer list to a cousin. le is still monitoring them and gathering names. pink uses **** runaways and some of their girls were on korean tv. pink serves foreign and domestic men, there was a korean actor arrested for having sex with an **** girl, she was from pink.
to make matters worse pink girls were forced to work even when they had stds. pink girls also took notes about who they met, where the met and they have shared this along with their customer list with le.
[quote=bobojo13]i know some people who used ue and pink this past winter. should i tell them to start packing? according to the report they have a list of 4000 names. does that mean there will be that many arrests? or will there be just a few as an example? is there any kind of precedent for this?[/quote]
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Maybe or maybe not
[QUOTE=Bobojo13]I know some people who used UE and Pink this past winter. Should I tell them to start packing? According to the report they have a list of 4000 names. Does that mean there will be that many arrests? Or will there be just a few as an example? Is there any kind of precedent for this?[/QUOTE]Escort Y said " Same thing happened a few years ago and the police said at that time, they will arrest all people which were in their list, but they didn't. They arrested just a few Japanese. They might have been afraid of some diplomatic issues that might happen and it's not that easy to trace all their credit cards and immigration record. Interpol is too busy to help Korean police just for this issue. " and also said " 1. If they post their phone number on their web site, they will get in trouble some day. 2. If they buy a domain of thier web site, will get in trouble some day. 3. If they see local Koreans, they will get in trouble. 4. If they accept credit cards, they will get in trouble some day with their customers"
"if the police break into your place during the session, you have no choice. That's the evidence what they like and collect. And if the police call you and ask to be in the police station, you had better go and just keep this in mind, you shouldn't say that you bought a sex, they want to hear you agreed with what they think, they have no evidence. You just say, you expected just massage and you just got massage as what you expected, and say you are pretty sure you just got ripped off, you had no idea how much they charge for normal massage. And keep saying, if they don't let you walk away, you will call your consulate and will report about what they have done to you. But the girl who you met pointed out you and said you bought a sex, you might be in trouble."
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[quote=waykook saram]tell them they need to go. if they used pink they need to run.
the pimp from pink was arrested last year and he gave his customer list to a cousin. le is still monitoring them and gathering names. pink uses **** runaways and some of their girls were on korean tv. pink serves foreign and domestic men, there was a korean actor arrested for having sex with an **** girl, she was from pink.
to make matters worse pink girls were forced to work even when they had stds. pink girls also took notes about who they met, where the met and they have shared this along with their customer list with le.[/quote]wow, are you serious? how much time does he have? a month? a few weeks? what about changing his email and phone number? what kind of legal repercussions will there be? is there anyway to stay and avoid being arrested at this point?
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[QUOTE=Ezinho]
I'm done with mongering in this country
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Well, my boycott of the Korean sex scene lasted one month, but you know what they say, rules were meant to be broken.
That, and I was super horny.
Went to the Hill last night and stopped in at Peach Phuzz. Soo Aee was there and she was very friendly, not like the last time I saw her. She said she hadn't had anything to drink, but I'm not sure if I believe her; thanks to whoever for getting her drunk and friendly. She was wearing that red outfit and she looked super hot (well, her body at least). Afterwards, she even gave me a hug and told me to come back soon; never had that happen on the Hill before. She mentioned she lives near the Hyatt and when I asked if she goes to JJs, she said sometimes. Had anyone seen her/picked her up there? Kimchi Warrior, you know a lot about her, what's the story?
My new MO for the Hill is to avoid the Hill completely; the quality is too poor. Just walk past the bars on the main street up to Apple, then walk back down. If the bars/girls are busy or closed, I'm heading back home and whacking off. I'm not wasting my time anymore.
Anyway, I canceled my trip to LOS because of the problems there, so I'm going to head down to Daegu and Busan for my vacation, then ferry it over to Japan. Hopefully I'll find something down south so I can report back here, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Get Brad Park
That's the title of one of local Korean news papers.
It says Dassihamkke, kind of rehabilitation guidance association for women, informed the police against Brad Park on April 28 who registered Pink Escort site under his name in Sept 2009. Korean American.
It also says his charges will be human trafficing, brokering etc. He said he will give Chinese who work for him green cards if they work in the States.
He has had his ads in there, too.
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[QUOTE=Bobojo13]I know some people who used UE and Pink this past winter. Should I tell them to start packing? According to the report they have a list of 4000 names. Does that mean there will be that many arrests? Or will there be just a few as an example? Is there any kind of precedent for this?[/QUOTE]
The media has reported that the 4000 names they got from UE are the "names" from emails only. LE has said it will only pursue those they believe have actually paid for the service. They got most of the girls already, and they are just now starting to track down the johns; about 400 or so according to the media.
[QUOTE=Run Mann]UE escorts are novices or idiots as they clearly did not know how the sex trade works in Korea and made themselves a target.[/QUOTE]
Well, if UE were novices or idiots, then Pink wasn't much smarter. Both advertised through the moon on CL, both had websites, and both widely advertised their names and phone numbers. The difference is, UE is run by an ex-dogface, and Pink is run by a Korean. Guess who will get the majority of the media's and LE's attention. Guess who will get the worst punishment.
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[QUOTE=Waykook Saram]Pink girls also took notes about who they met, where the met and they have shared this along with their customer list with LE.[/QUOTE]
Lotta good that will do them when the guy uses a fake name, a payphone, and pays cash (and may not even live in Seoul 29 days out of the month).
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[QUOTE=Ezinho] Anyway, I canceled my trip to LOS because of the problems there, so I'm going to head down to Daegu and Busan for my vacation, then ferry it over to Japan.[/QUOTE]Smart move - Bangkok's a powder keg ready to go off. Have you considered the direct flights to Cebu or Clark? Four hours away and legs wide open at a fraction of the price.
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Good call Kimchi Warrior
I posted a question about UE and Pink prior to my arrival in Seoul. KW warned me off, and I owe you one!
Turns out I was only in town for a three or four days, and I was able to hook-up with a couple of old friends and didn't look for any P4P.
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RLD risks
Does anyone know if these little honies get any kind of scheduled checkup? I've seen a couple and although they were a pleasure, they stunk! That pussy was rancid smelling! Maybe they lose interest in their hygiene if they have an STD? It's kind of shocking since there seem to be plenty of garden hoses inside to give the beaver a bath. I'm guessing that a customer that contacted something could make some trouble for them. Any idea how much they get paid, do they make a good living or are they indentured servents? How about the MP's, if they caught a contractor in there do they have any authority?
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[QUOTE=Seoulstice]Smart move - Bangkok's a powder keg ready to go off. Have you considered the direct flights to Cebu or Clark? Four hours away and legs wide open at a fraction of the price.[/QUOTE]
Just back from Cebu. Hard time finding a decent place to grab decent SP's, Cebu link on this site less than helpful.
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[QUOTE=Halcyon901]First, I have no clue why Jack Rabbit is pissed. Because he paid for the booking club or he didn't get laid, or maybe a combination of both.
But I don't see how his native Korean friend did any cock-blocking. Maybe I misread something, but it just seems that either:
1. The girls were not into Jack Rabbit.
2. Jack Rabbit has no game.
I don't know, but 250, 000W is like 1 person in a real booking in Seoul. The VIP room in Eden runs around 2, 000, 000won. So it's not like this is a significant sum in terms of clubs. Maybe outside Seoul, but why even bother?
Second, as for the comment above, I'm dumbfounded. When I lived in Korea for 3 years, my native friends would always try to help me out, be it with girls, money, translating stuff, etc.
Third, I have a very close friend from my elementary school days living in Korea for the pas 5 years. Although he is white, he gets a ton of p-sy! And the chicks he sees are model-like hot. Of course, he doesn't act like a typically baek-in douchebag from the States, and actually treats women very well.[/QUOTE]
Heh, no worries here, JR got game. Maybe you have been lucky, but the majority of the Expats I know get cockblocked by their Korean buddies.
As for your elementary school friend, if he speaks fluent Korean then MAYBE just MAYBE he levels up to model-hotties. Without those skills, good luck. It is possible, but superhot chicks don't need to speak English (in any non-English country for that matter).
In my experience, trying to pull from Circle, Volume, Eden, what have you, is time and money well wasted . . . Regardless, of your swag and bank.
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Heh, no worries here, JR got game. Maybe you have been lucky, but the majority of the Expats I know get cockblocked by their Korean buddies.
As for your elementary school friend, if he speaks fluent Korean then MAYBE just MAYBE he levels up to model-hotties. Without those skills, good luck. It is possible, but superhot chicks don't need to speak English (in any non-English country for that matter).
In my experience, trying to pull from Circle, Volume, Eden, what have you, is time and money well wasted . . . Regardless, of your swag and bank.[/QUOTE]
I've heard about those clubs (Circle, Volume, Eden), what's the deal there? A female friend of mine told me that many good looking girls go there, but that it's not really a pick-up place. Are those places worth a shot?
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[QUOTE=Darren 33]I've heard about those clubs (Circle, Volume, Eden), what's the deal there? A female friend of mine told me that many good looking girls go there, but that it's not really a pick-up place. Are those places worth a shot?[/QUOTE]
Good for eye candy, some phenomenal talent to be seen. Pretty difficult to pick up, unless you already have pre-established relationship. Sometimes I have taken a girl there (Volume) and then gone upstairs to Crown Hotel to shag. Although, I had connections to get into these places (not dropping 30 bones+ for cover).
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Itaewon Juicy bar girls
I have been working on a Juicy Bar girl, who is a stunner. Tall, curves, perfect English, ALWAYS has a customer. She recently quit her bar (other girls were too jealous and caused drama-surprise, surprise). We had met a few times before for dinner (cheap sushi place). Last night, she was bored, and her boyfriend was busy, so we went out for drinks.
Started at a small bar in the Won (couple drinks totaled 25,000won) and she also bought Sake and food (she paid). Went to JJ Mahoneys (tommorow being a holiday and all), which was pretty busy with good talent to be had (definetly need a wingman). One Pina Colada later (24,000won) and we left (waiters kept hassling us for sitting at a table-wasn't THAT busy, worst service in Korea). Went to another bar near Habongchung, managed to discourage full meal and order small snacks and drinks (21,000won). Saw a colleague there, so we soon left and went to the Sujin Motel up the road. Took some convincing but managed to get her into a room (50,000won for bigger room). Digs were modest at best for a Motel (more like a Yogwan-small Korean inn). Lights went off and we went to town. HOWEVER, it was the usual push-pull game that Korean girls like to play, so after a few penetrations (no condom I may add), I grew tired of the struggle (especially "I have a boyfriend bullshit"), sucked on her real D cup titties and finished myself off.
Point being, my usual convictions of either working on local talent or Juicy Bar girls is not only potentially dangerous (hard to put on condom when push-pull game is on), time consuming (6 hours), expensive and downright frustrating. In other words, the 120,000won could have been better spent at my Anma in Kangnam, 2 pops at Mia (which was my original plan for the night) or Itaewon FS with change to spare. I need to find me a good regular GFE to stop spinning my wheels . . .
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]I have been working on a Juicy Bar girl, who is a stunner. Tall, curves, perfect English, ALWAYS has a customer. She recently quit her bar (other girls were too jealous and caused drama-surprise, surprise). We had met a few times before for dinner (cheap sushi place). Last night, she was bored, and her boyfriend was busy, so we went out for drinks.
Started at a small bar in the Won (couple drinks totaled 25,000won) and she also bought Sake and food (she paid). Went to JJ Mahoneys (tommorow being a holiday and all), which was pretty busy with good talent to be had (definetly need a wingman). One Pina Colada later (24,000won) and we left (waiters kept hassling us for sitting at a table-wasn't THAT busy, worst service in Korea). Went to another bar near Habongchung, managed to discourage full meal and order small snacks and drinks (21,000won). Saw a colleague there, so we soon left and went to the Sujin Motel up the road. Took some convincing but managed to get her into a room (50,000won for bigger room). Digs were modest at best for a Motel (more like a Yogwan-small Korean inn). Lights went off and we went to town. HOWEVER, it was the usual push-pull game that Korean girls like to play, so after a few penetrations (no condom I may add), I grew tired of the struggle (especially "I have a boyfriend bullshit"), sucked on her real D cup titties and finished myself off.
Point being, my usual convictions of either working on local talent or Juicy Bar girls is not only potentially dangerous (hard to put on condom when push-pull game is on), time consuming (6 hours), expensive and downright frustrating. In other words, the 120,000won could have been better spent at my Anma in Kangnam, 2 pops at Mia (which was my original plan for the night) or Itaewon FS with change to spare. I need to find me a good regular GFE to stop spinning my wheels . . .[/QUOTE]
I don't care what anyone says...korean women are the pits....very few are worth ones time and investment. They whine, moan, ***** and complain and always have excuses. NO, I am NOT against korean women and I have not been burnt...I just know hundreds of guys who have been burnt, screwed over, etc...true...many guys fuck over women and they, the women get gun shy...but korean women are...are...a waste of time for the most part.
Sure, korean women look great! Sexy, MILF! But someone, somewhere is tired of their/her shit and wants to dump her.
Look at all the letters on the korean site here...most are from guys getting fucked! It's suppose to be the other way around! And yet....guys keep trying to get them!
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Yeondeungpo (again)
Yeondeungpo
After finishing an errand in the area I stopped off at Yeondeungpo again to see if there was anything new or different from my previous trip.
There are a rather huge number of bums in the area for Seoul (maybe other areas like this but I’m not familiar with them). Drunks and the down and out. I walked away from the big department store and lo and behold there were a couple of street walkers on the main drag. Before anyone gets too excited these were women who were in their later 50’s (at least) and had not done well in life. On the glass rooms side of the main drag in Yeondeungpo there was also a couple of street walkers – probably mid 30’s and one wasn’t too bad.
I’m not sure what early evening would bring there but given the fact that there were 3-4 women walking their wares at mid day, I’d guess there might be more offered on a Friday night? I imagine it’s all rather low end. I’m new here so I was surprised to see SW’s at all as most of what I’ve seen is glass store front setups or barber pole joints. Are SW's common for other parts of Seoul?
FYI - I don’t know if there’s any relevance to other posts about “crackdowns” but yesterday there was a Seoul cop cruiser parked at the bottom of hooker hill for a good portion of the afternoon.
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[QUOTE=Ben2]I don't care what anyone says...korean women are the pits....very few are worth ones time and investment. They whine, moan, ***** and complain and always have excuses. NO, I am NOT against korean women and I have not been burnt...I just know hundreds of guys who have been burnt, screwed over, etc...true...many guys fuck over women and they, the women get gun shy...but korean women are...are...a waste of time for the most part.
Sure, korean women look great! Sexy, MILF! But someone, somewhere is tired of their/her shit and wants to dump her.
Look at all the letters on the korean site here...most are from guys getting fucked! It's suppose to be the other way around! And yet....guys keep trying to get them![/QUOTE]
Yeah, but come on, where do most young horndogs go for Korean girls? And you're surprised by all the horror stories? Go somewhere with a bit of class and the quality of women improves immediately.
Juicy girls and party girls around Hongdae, Apkujeong, and Gangnam are up for NSA good times, a quick lay because their boyfriends are busy, money, to give their parents a rebellious "screw you!", or a combination of the above.
Meet Korean women--women, not girls--in places other than bars, clubs, and RLDs and the immaturity and game-playing is nearly non-existent. Guys who complain about Korean women are usually their own worst enemy.
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Mia still best value
Not as many shops open (especially before 9pm), and A row agemas still predominantly discriminatory,however with careful scrutiny you can find gems. New one to roster: 8 face/body, cool half arm tattoo, 9 service. 60 bones. Was satisified heading out, But was stopped in A row (previous reg), 9 young one wouldn't take me, but 9 body (real D cups) 8 face was eager. Not surprising couldn't take dick, lay there princess like and whined, so just blew my load and went home. Even Mia is hit or miss, but feel less violated if service sucks.
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I disagree, in spades
For 15 years I fucked Korean girls, in saunas and spas in the US. One in 20 may be a dud. Of the other 19, 9 were good and 10 were great. I've spent weekends with them, I've slept over in the sauna, I've done some of them bareback, over an extended period of time, like years. They are, in my view, some of the greatest women we could ever be fortunate to fuck. If you are an asshole, so be it. This is my experience.
[QUOTE=Ben2]I don't care what anyone says. Korean women are the pits. Very few are worth ones time and investment. They whine, moan, ***** and complain and always have excuses. NO, I am NOT against korean women and I have not been burnt. I just know hundreds of guys who have been burnt, screwed over, etc. True. Many guys fuck over women and they, the women get gun shy. But korean women are. Are. A waste of time for the most part.
Sure, korean women look great! Sexy, MILF! But someone, somewhere is tired of their/her shit and wants to dump her.
Look at all the letters on the korean site here. Most are from guys getting fucked! It's suppose to be the other way around! And yet. Guys keep trying to get ththem![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Waldeck2]For 15 years I fucked Korean girls, in saunas and spas in the US. One in 20 may be a dud. Of the other 19, 9 were good and 10 were great. I've spent weekends with them, I've slept over in the sauna, I've done some of them bareback, over an extended period of time, like years. They are, in my view, some of the greatest women we could ever be fortunate to fuck. If you are an asshole, so be it. This is my experience.[/QUOTE]
That's korean women in the US. Whole different breed.
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]That's korean women in the US. Whole different breed.[/QUOTE]
Not so, at least to the extent that Waldeck was talking about 32nd Street and Queens Koreatown-room salon girls and the girls that staffed the massage parlors all over town, who in my experience, in pre-Guiliani days in NYC, were all recent arrivals or just visiting and pretty much lived in a Korean cocoon.
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I'd have to agree with Coitus, if you go up the age ladder, you can still find some very attractive females and the usual younger Korean whiny princess ,games etc tend to go out the window. Especially if she's cheating on her husband :) (remember single females over 30 here are somewhat rare though less so in Seoul, where every K-gal tries to live the life of "Sex in the City")
You have to know where to find those women. I, for one, do not though I suppose if I really wanted to I'd have some ideas on where to look. (Unfortunately you'll most often find them in work related situations and that's too stupid and dangerous for me to play with)
JRabbit, what was ur problem with Cebu? (feel free to PM me)
I'm also curious where you find all these natural Korean D-cups.. I can't find many good natural C-cups, not on a non fatty.
I've checked out probably around a dozen anma/massage places within 10 minutes walk of my house and if I wanted to walk for another 10 minutes, I could easily find another dozen.
Inevitably it's like opening a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get (outside of the usual regimented and stiff john experience) but every now and then again you catch a surprise. There's one place where the adjumma mamasan and the girls really like me (seemingly) , there's not much clock watching and condom usage is optional. (which I'd be willing to bet actually is the norm for Korean customers). A gem and it only runs 90K, which by Korean standards is a bargain. Yet, I always feel the need to go to a new place to see if the experience can be repeated elsewhere, up till now a super dumb strategy since I'm 1 for 16.
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Dropping by at the end of this month :D
the korean scene ... ah it's been a while :)
from those who can recall my last post (ages ago) i went to a offictel and scored lucky.
and from my posts before that ... most of you know i enjoy joining up with fellow members and going out together. i'm korean and though my korean isn't amazing it gets me by with the ladies. so here's another shout out. i'll be flying in on the 27th and staying for the holidays for two months. so if there are any peeps out there who enjoys going out and getting food, and then hitting up the scenes let me know.
just in case - i normally hit up kang-nam and the near by areas there. know a couple of offictel's and anma's. i'll have to get back in touche with some of the mama-san's and owners to get in on the deal (if they still have it) but those who do know me and have gone out, you know i always try and friends in on the fun as well. if those with me can't get in, i don't. douche-bag move ditching people like that (imo).
i still believe i have access to pm so if you don't want to post then just pm me.
cheers
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[QUOTE=Catire]
JRabbit, what was ur problem with Cebu? (feel free to PM me)
I'm also curious where you find all these natural Korean D-cups.. I can't find many good natural C-cups, not on a non fatty.
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For Cebu, check out link
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1004&page=2&pp=15[/url]
Starts at post]1015958[/post]
Some new info has been updated, since my excursions there.
First of all, natural Korean D-cups is really western large C Cups (can attest to this from visits to Appujeong plastic surgeons). Regardless, I have come across them in Anmas, Mia, Yongsan, and Itaewon (both juicy bars and SP providers) in non-fatties and semi-fatties alike. PM me if you want specific details.
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]For Cebu, check out link
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1004&page=2&pp=15[/url]
Starts at post]1015958[/post]
Some new info has been updated, since my excursions there.
First of all, natural Korean D-cups is really western large C Cups (can attest to this from visits to Appujeong plastic surgeons). Regardless, I have come across them in Anmas, Mia, Yongsan, and Itaewon (both juicy bars and SP providers) in non-fatties and semi-fatties alike. PM me if you want specific details.[/QUOTE]
alas, the homemade Korean Viagra cure for me isn't their flat chests.
It's their flat asses. I've never seen such flat asses in my entire life. Like a straight ironing board.
the perfect cure for any form of priapism and the Viagra/Cialis antidote.
re Cebu, I have no idea what you mean by "SP's".
sounds like you stayed in Mactan (horrid idea, but I understand you were with gf). In that case you should've just resigned yourself to boinking your gf.
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Moulin Rouge
[QUOTE=Dj Yella]Haven't seen this posted yet, but there is a tall beauty working in Moulin Rouge. Its a little past King Club and Homo hill on the left. Open the door and go up the steps. I thought I'd check it out one night and was shocked when I saw her. Wow :) She charges a little more for drinks but she is totally worth it trust me. :) Had a few great times. Happy hunting. And does anyone ever get together on here LOL.[/QUOTE]
I went to Moulin Rouge late last night and I think I saw this same girl, name is Nara or Nana, can't remember which, 28 years old and she looked fantastic; the best looking girl I've ever seen around Hooker Hill I think! Very nice personality and she's got a fantastic body as well. Her prices started high but they went down pretty quickly. She says she's there until 6 am.
[QUOTE=Catire]alas, the homemade Korean Viagra cure for me isn't their flat chests.
It's their flat asses. I've never seen such flat asses in my entire life. Like a straight ironing board.
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Ha, I thought I was the only one on here who felt like this about Korean women's bodies. I would say their whole body is like an ironing board, just useless. They usually have nice legs, though. And tight pussies!
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[quote=gen x baer]the korean scene ... ah it's been a while :)
from those who can recall my last post (ages ago) i went to a offictel and scored lucky.
and from my posts before that ... most of you know i enjoy joining up with fellow members and going out together. i'm korean and though my korean isn't amazing it gets me by with the ladies. so here's another shout out. i'll be flying in on the 27th and staying for the holidays for two months. so if there are any peeps out there who enjoys going out and getting food, and then hitting up the scenes let me know.
just in case - i normally hit up kang-nam and the near by areas there. know a couple of offictel's and anma's. i'll have to get back in touche with some of the mama-san's and owners to get in on the deal (if they still have it) but those who do know me and have gone out, you know i always try and friends in on the fun as well. if those with me can't get in, i don't. douche-bag move ditching people like that (imo).
i still believe i have access to pm so if you don't want to post then just pm me.
cheers[/quote]i'm going there (gangnamg area) end of may too. i also enjoy make friend and going for fun together. we may go to the beer bar first and then decide where to go! i might appreciate if you can contact with me.
thanks
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Pink Escorts
Looks like Pink Escorts is "back in business" (eye roll)
This is their new lame ad:
[quote]Don't worry, just come back to me like I did.
010-3356-5065
I will offer you a very special rate; 100,000 KRW for 1 hr including EVERYthing.
Brad [/quote]
Yeah, don't worry about the cops who shut us down temporarily and everyone else listed on Craigslist.
Yeah, just come on back. Oh! And we'll even drop our price from 250/hr to 100/hr, even though in the past we called you cheap bastards for not wanting to pay our high prices, and called you bottom feeders who preferred to use low-class hookers (ours are not low-class like in Itaewon!)...
What a deal...!
What a bargain...!
What a sting operation...!
Typical Korean police procedure... make the arrest, offer a deal if you turn in your buddies and clients, offer a bigger deal if you help them bring in others in a sting.
It doesn't help that someone "hacked" their email address last week and sent emails out telling people to get out of Korea "before they get in trouble".
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Need a massage
I live in Seoul near the Yongsan train station and am in need of a good massage parlor with good service.
Anyone know of any here?
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Top o' tha Hill
I was at the bar next to Polly's near the top of the hill on the left as you walk up, think it's called J-Bar now, across from Number 1. My friend and I dropped in at around 7am on a Wednesday morning after the Tuesday holiday. The was only one girl working there, named Mi Young I think. She was nice, friendly but she didn't stand a chance with my friend, as after two half price lady drinks (so we did spend the 20, to be fair) she was naked on the couch between us, being fondled and talking about calling up her friend to come there to join us. My friend and I continued with the bartering, and she was willing to go with us both for W180000. After laying the bait, my friend left, and she was OK with just me for W100000. I really enjoyed my time with her, and I guess she did with me too, because even though she had said no at first to an offer of two times for 150, she asked me if we could. Lots of oral, and going at it on the bar and the barstools was fun. She's willing to go out to hotels, and we talked about that for next time, among other things. Definitely a return visit soon.
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Got lost and found
I tried to follow the directions in a post of distinction for an anma near the Soeullung station on my lunch break and boy did I fail. I made a couple of round trips looking for the specific place and then gave up. I did see a couple of other ones but feared they were unfriendly to foreigners I avoided going in. Just as I was going to head back tot the subway I saw another double pole and said what the hell. I walked down the dark stairwell and the man done there opened the door. I said anma and he nodded and took my shoes. A woman came out, a 5 face and 6 body came over and led me to a very dark room. She held out seven fingers and I got the idea. I paid her and she had me undress and put on some shorts. She even turned off the lights when I got to my underwear so I am thinking at this price and wi what I've seen so far this was just going to be a massage. Anyway she had me lay down and washed my feet in the sink at the end of the massage table. Then she left and another woman came in. She was a bit older and not as pretty but a tight little body with some heavily padded a cups. She proceeded to give me a really great massage with the back walking and all. When she had me roll over she started on my front and made a few grabs at my covered package and moaned. After the chest massage was over she just pulled off my shorts and without a word began to give me a BBBJ. It was surprising and a amazing. She repositioned herself and had her groin very close to my hands and face so I let my fingers do some exploring and discovered a very tight and shapely ass plus an amazingly wet pussy. She seemed to enjoy this and then switched to a HJ and after some 10 or 15 mintues finished me off. She cleaned me up, asked me if I was going to take a nap (which I didn't) and then gave a an energy drink before escorting me out. It was a great experience, cheaper than I thought and they even polished my shoes while I was in there.
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Foreigner clubs
Wow. Every single foreigner club in Seoul has been taken over by cock blocking Koreans. Limelight closed. Tin pan 1 & 2, B1 and now Helios. Agressive cockblocking too. Literally pulling away your target. I was amazed how little westerners there were later tonight. Sticking to my reg pros.
Had amazing (but theatrical) 3 way session before at mississipi with Yuna and new face. Fantastic body both. Busy night so was rushed. Gents please be reasonable and keep the prices modest. Too many ballers waving their bank around with the Won pros lately.
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[quote=gen x baer]the korean scene ... ah it's been a while :)
from those who can recall my last post (ages ago) i went to a offictel and scored lucky.
and from my posts before that ... most of you know i enjoy joining up with fellow members and going out together. i'm korean and though my korean isn't amazing it gets me by with the ladies. so here's another shout out. i'll be flying in on the 27th and staying for the holidays for two months. so if there are any peeps out there who enjoys going out and getting food, and then hitting up the scenes let me know.
just in case - i normally hit up kang-nam and the near by areas there. know a couple of offictel's and anma's. i'll have to get back in touche with some of the mama-san's and owners to get in on the deal (if they still have it) but those who do know me and have gone out, you know i always try and friends in on the fun as well. if those with me can't get in, i don't. douche-bag move ditching people like that (imo).
i still believe i have access to pm so if you don't want to post then just pm me.
cheers[/quote]gen x, my buddies and are in seoul (staying in mapo gu) for a few days. we are 30 yrs old and went to hongdae last night. it was shitty. lot of hot girls but they were too young for us. we got snobbed so many times. i am familiar with some of the clubbing scenes, but please can we link up. we want to check out some action.
thanks
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[QUOTE=Candid Asians]We are 30 yrs old and went to hongdae last night. It was shitty. Lot of hot girls but they were too young for us. We got snobbed so many times. I am familiar with some of the clubbing scenes, but please can we link up. We want to check out some action.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Hongdae is played out and last night Hongik university had a festival. Young girls on the prowl for young Korean guys. The only foreigner friendly club with talent looking for action was Tin Pan (see previous post). Now these clubs have age restriction (no over 30 korean age). I used to pick up on the street late night as well but those days are gone. The Korean media have done an exceptional job villianizing foreigners that Korean women are terrified of us (much to the delight of Korean men). Do I sound bitter? -sigh- Things are not looking better for us here, hence frequenting this site and sticking to pros . .
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Millennium Seoul Hilton any close-by fun Jung-gu
I will be in Seoul April 26- June 9 any advice as to any close fun to the hotel? or in the hotel.
The hotel Lobby? any of the hotel bars? the Casino?
I only speak english
or anything in walking distance?
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[QUOTE=Love Heels]I will be in Seoul April 26- June 9 any advice as to any close fun to the hotel? or in the hotel.
The hotel Lobby? any of the hotel bars? the Casino?
I only speak english
or anything in walking distance?[/QUOTE]
Your best bet is the "Hill" - just on the other side of Namsan, where you're staying: a 5 minute cab ride or a long walk. RTF.
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Everything below will be a report of something that I "heard" happened. This of course did not happen to me, and was relayed to me by a person I met, but with whom I have no contact.
At Belle, in Kangnam, a 25-30 minute wait eventually led up to an incredibly cute young woman (said she was 22) entering the room.
Massage skills were described as excellent, but this is aside from the point.
Only noteworthy aspect was that bbbj with CIM/COF was provided to this person by a young, sweet, thin, and very attractive college student.
Regardless of what goes on the Hill, this is a fantasy come true for a lot of guys and at a fraction of the price, with no bullshit haggling (realize some actually enjoy that part of the game).
I have not personally frequented this establishment, but the person who did certainly had an experience well beyond expectations.
All respect in the world to those who go hunting in Little America, but in terms of looks, nothing I've seen there compares.
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Your best bet is the "Hill". Just on the other side of Namsan, where you're staying: a 5 minute cab ride or a long walk. RTF.[/QUOTE]where is the Hill? If I take a cab what do I tell him? Where do I want to go? Or on a map where do I find it what street? Or what landmarks are near it?
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[QUOTE=Quinten]Everything below will be a report of something that I "heard" happened. This of course did not happen to me, and was relayed to me by a person I met, but with whom I have no contact.
At Belle, in Kangnam, a 25-30 minute wait eventually led up to an incredibly cute young woman (said she was 22) entering the room.
Massage skills were described as excellent, but this is aside from the point.
Only noteworthy aspect was that bbbj with CIM/COF was provided to this person by a young, sweet, thin, and very attractive college student.
Regardless of what goes on the Hill, this is a fantasy come true for a lot of guys and at a fraction of the price, with no bullshit haggling (realize some actually enjoy that part of the game).
I have not personally frequented this establishment, but the person who did certainly had an experience well beyond expectations.
All respect in the world to those who go hunting in Little America, but in terms of looks, nothing I've seen there compares.[/QUOTE]Yes, I have the same experience. Do you know the girl's name? Is her Haru? I am so in love with her because she is so beautiful and just like your girl friend. I tried two times CIM and she is so cute, and one time almost get a FS in the shop. I will try again definitely.
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[QUOTE=Love Heels]where is the Hill? If I take a cab what do I tell him? Where do I want to go? Or on a map where do I find it what street? Or what landmarks are near it?[/QUOTE]
If you go out the front of the Hilton there is a road directly ahead that runs straight away from the Hilton. That is the Namsan (South Mountain) ring road. You follow it about 2 klicks and 3-4 traffic lights to an intersection in front of the Hyatt off to the right a little ways. Turn right and go toward the Hyatt (passing another street on the right that heads downhill) - about 50 yards. Do not enter the Hyatt driveway but turn right again. The road meanders down from Namsan to Itaewon high street - about 1.5 klicks - and becomes "Hooker Hill" as it goes back up after the intersection. There is a fire station on the southeast corner and a Dunkin Donuts just in from the southwest corner of the intersection at the entrance to the Hill. Asking a taxi driver to take you to the Itaewon fire station ["Itaewon seobiso"] would be your easiest option.
From there, refer to the map referenced here for a guide to the venues [courtesy of the Provost Marshall's office of US Forces Korea; our tax dollars at work ;) ]:
[url]http://www.usfk.mil/usfk/Uploads/330/USAG-YItaewonMaps01June09.pdf[/url]
A link to the map can also be found in the Reports of Distinction section.
Hooker Hill proper is the alley/street that runs uphill to left the first block after the intersection but, as you can see from the map, there also are various options on the larger uphill street. You can check the Reports of Distinction or browse through the regular posts for recommendations and comments on venues/providers. Best bets on the main street IMO are Peach Phuzz (Soo-Ae), Nymph (Yumi and staff - although Yumi is a little long in the tooth (but kinky as all get out), Moulin Rouge (Nana, not until after 9 at the earliest) and Cabin (Mina - weekends only and get her alone NOT doubled with the cougar who's also there and will try to play pilot fish); and Mississippi (Yuna) and Happy Days (Cindy) on Hooker Hill proper. Soo-Ae, Nana and Mina are relatively expensive (if you want a believable simulacram of a real GFE or PSE) but IMO much more than worth the extra freight charge, which in the first two cases especially will get you very good treatment (unless you're a haggling bottom-fisher). Weekday evenings/nights are better because slower and less trafficked, and the SPs won't have one eye on the clock and be in such a hurry to get you over and done with in order to clear the decks for other potential customers. Most places are open by 8 give or take.
If you're looking for a Charon/Beatrice PM me.
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[QUOTE=Kj Chan]Yes, I have the same experience. Do you know the girl's name? Is her Haru? I am so in love with her because she is so beautiful and just like your girl friend. I tried two times CIM and she is so cute, and one time almost get a FS in the shop. I will try again definitely.[/QUOTE]
What days does whe work? What time? I may be in Kangnam this weekend.
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[QUOTE=Darren 33]What days does whe work? What time? I may be in Kangnam this weekend.[/QUOTE]I went there on Saturday. Just ask the boss about Haru and you should meet her. Anyway, if you meet other good girl just give us a report!
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Minhee
I just had the pleasure of Minhee at Nymph. Very sweet and very young. Definitely not a clock-watcher and somewhat intelligent. I get the feeling she is somewhat genuinely shy as well. Lots of giggling and kissing.
Very small boobs but one of the most amazing asses I have ever had the pleasure of riding. Big, white, round, and smooth. Got her digits and plan to have a longer romp in the future.
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Giving back
Was in Seoul a few months back and tried my luck in a few spots on the Hill. I had tried 3 different spots, although unfortunately I don't even remember the first two (experiences just weren't that memorable). The last place I visited was Peach Phuzz and I have nothing but good things to say about Soo-Ae. A true professional, embraced all of my depraved desires with gusto. I highly recommend Peach Phuzz, and I would definitely go back next time I'm in Seoul. Also, as other posts indicate. Be careful, I saw trannies in both Madrid and Texas trying to pass themselves as actual women (one of them even called me a faggot for NOT wanting to get with a dude. What is wrong with these "things"?).
Anyways, happy hunting all.
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Arrived
To all ... I'm back in home city :D
Thus just like before if any of you are interested to wing with me and have a good time let me know. As always, let me know your ethnicity so I know what to expect and the best way we can hang out. Looking forward to making new friends and having a good time as before. Cheers !!!
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Ads on CL
I am arriving Seoul in a few weeks, stayinng at the Hilton Millennium. This will be my first in quite some time. I have read the information on the "hill" action but am wondering about the ladies who advertise in CL. I read on the forum about a bust of an Escort agency which advertised on CL and subsequent ads of possible LE baiting for mongers and am wondering if any of the current ads on CL might be a continuation of the LE activities. If anyone has thoughts on my question or personal expereince with any of the CL ladies, the info would be appreciated. I can be reached via a PM at the USA version of this site. My handle is below.
Thanks in advance for any info.
Frank M
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What time?
[QUOTE=Ready81]I just had the pleasure of Minhee at Nymph. Very sweet and very young. Definitely not a clock-watcher and somewhat intelligent. I get the feeling she is somewhat genuinely shy as well. Lots of giggling and kissing.
Very small boobs but one of the most amazing asses I have ever had the pleasure of riding. Big, white, round, and smooth. Got her digits and plan to have a longer romp in the future.[/QUOTE]
Your description of her ass sounded good so I went to Itaewon last night around 3 am or so but Nymph was closed, no lights on. Same with Peach Phuzz. Why are these places closed, do the girls get "barfined" or something like that? It's not the first time I've noticed both these places closed; it was a Wednesday night so I would think they'd be open. Can you tell us what time she works and what days?
Ended up back at Moulin Rouge to see Nana. She gave a mean BJ/HJ combo on the couch in the corner while her sister was wacthing TV nearby. As mentioned before, her prices start really high (100k for a BJ!) but they drop faster than her dress at 4 in the morning. Really nice, fun girl.
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[QUOTE=Frank M]I am arriving Seoul in a few weeks, stayinng at the Hilton Millennium. This will be my first in quite some time. I have read the information on the "hill" action but am wondering about the ladies who advertise in CL. I read on the forum about a bust of an Escort agency which advertised on CL and subsequent ads of possible LE baiting for mongers and am wondering if any of the current ads on CL might be a continuation of the LE activities. If anyone has thoughts on my question or personal experience with any of the CL ladies, the info would be appreciated. I can be reached via a PM at the USA version of this site. My handle is below.
Thanks in advance for any info.
Frank M[/QUOTE]
Nothing to say about CL pros, other than proceed with caution. If you feel more comfortable with hotel in-call (ambiance sure beats that of the typical "club") an option is to go "eye-shopping" (the Konglish term) on the Hill and take one back. Most Hill SPs will go out to hotels, even for (relatively) "short-time" for no extra charge, but note that in that case short time will mean at least an hour with corresponding fees (to my knowledge what many people report here about supposedly fairer, i.e. cheaper, prices means they are running the hare's race in 30 or even 20 minutes or less.)
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[QUOTE=Ezinho]Your description of her ass sounded good so I went to Itaewon last night around 3 am or so but Nymph was closed, no lights on. Same with Peach Phuzz. Why are these places closed, do the girls get "barfined" or something like that? .[/QUOTE]
My sense was that last night was a slow night, so they just may have gone home "early". More likely possibilities are the resident SP: (i) was helping out a sister at another club with a threesome - although that usually doesn't involve lights out unless they're not planning on coming back for the night; (ii) was on an hotel outcall (same caveat); or (iii) was engaged in a relatively long-term session w/ a regular customer; my fav always turns off the outside lights when I'm in the house to minimize the likelihood of being disturbed by some wanker pounding on the door even after finding shade drawn and the door locked.
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[QUOTE=Catire]alas, the homemade Korean Viagra cure for me isn't their flat chests.
It's their flat asses. I've never seen such flat asses in my entire life. Like a straight ironing board.
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Like the one pictured here in the photo gallery:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=999006[/url] ?
LOL. I see more of these than flat ones. Maybe you're looking in the wrong places.
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Another reason for lights out.
[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]My sense was that last night was a slow night, so they just may have gone home "early". More likely possibilities are the resident SP: (i) was helping out a sister at another club with a threesome - although that usually doesn't involve lights out unless they're not planning on coming back for the night; (ii) was on an hotel outcall (same caveat); or (iii) was engaged in a relatively long-term session w/ a regular customer; my fav always turns off the outside lights when I'm in the house to minimize the likelihood of being disturbed by some wanker pounding on the door even after finding shade drawn and the door locked.[/QUOTE]
Another reason I neglected to mention: maybe the SP was in recovery mode. Saw the fav last night for a 2 hour tag team match. Before I left I had to tuck her in on the couch for a nap, set her phone alarm for her and turn off the outside shop lights for her so she could get some rest. ;) Easy to imagine she needed it after having had multiple Os, as the ones she gave me had me, between gasping for breath, requesting she call 119 when she finished me off. ;) ;)
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Like the one pictured here in the photo gallery:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=999006[/url] ?
LOL. I see more of these than flat ones. Maybe you're looking in the wrong places.[/QUOTE]
I'm not "looking in any places". I am referring to what I see around me each and every day.
that being.. Korean flatlands.
Kind of like being in the Nevada Salts.
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[QUOTE=Catire]I am referring to what I see around me each and every day.
[/QUOTE]More than likely you've developed an astigmatism. Consult an optometrist, you'll be really glad you did- mini skirt season is in full swing.
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[QUOTE=Seoulstice]mini skirt season is in full swing.[/QUOTE]
So is final exam season judging by the low cut tops the students have been wearing, finding any excuse to come to my office and bend down to talk to me.
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Incheon Airport
I have a 12 hour layover coming up in Seoul.
Any recommendations near the airport would be greatly appreciated.
I'll make sure to post any results.
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[QUOTE=Seoulstice]More than likely you've developed an astigmatism. Consult an optometrist, you'll be really glad you did- mini skirt season is in full swing.[/QUOTE]
my vision is perfectly fine.
More than likely you're suffering from that chronic and common ailment that affects most Caucasian males here. (obviously they're used to obnoxious and fat North American heifers back home)
Yellow fever.
Since my vision is perfectly normal and I suffer from no fever, I can note that most Korean minis are of the fluffy/poofy variety which conveniently hides the fact there is no derriere there.
I also feel compelled to point out that a lot of them wearing minis shouldn't really be wearing them with those stick/bird legs. At least some form of exercising would be useful to most of these Korean princesses, who are either rail thin, or flabby or both.
Granted, once in a while your neck will snap, but that's a lot less common than a casual reader may think.
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[QUOTE=Catire]my vision is perfectly fine.
More than likely you're suffering from that chronic and common ailment that affects most Caucasian males here. (obviously they're used to obnoxious and fat North American heifers back home)
these Korean princesses, who are either rail thin, or flabby or both.
Granted, once in a while your neck will snap, but that's a lot less common than a casual reader may think.[/QUOTE]LOL If it's not your vision then it must be your perception. Believe as you like bro - if Korean booty is a half empty cup and that suites you, then so be it. Take a look at this vid and tell me whether they're rail thin or curvaceous.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmrdUfZTlNI[/url]
As for me, I'm ailment free. I haven't lived in the continental US since 1987.
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[QUOTE=Seoulstice]LOL If it's not your vision then it must be your perception. Believe as you like bro - if Korean booty is a half empty cup and that suites you, then so be it. Take a look at this vid and tell me whether they're rail thin or curvaceous.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmrdUfZTlNI[/url]
As for me, I'm ailment free. I haven't lived in the continental US since 1987.[/QUOTE]
ah yes... the surgically enhanced (overwhelmingly in terms of %) Korean models.
Sure, most of them are quite nice to look at.
as are models almost anywhere, even North America.
What does that have to do with the average woman on the street?
interestingly enough, Korean women are adapting Western mores in terms of body desireability. This means the old stick rail thin look is on the way out and now they want S line or X line look. It'll be interesting to see how they get it :)
having spent some time living in Latin America, they don't have these issues over there, they're just born with it.
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Layover Blues
[QUOTE=Passingthrough30]I have a 12 hour layover coming up in Seoul.
Any recommendations near the airport would be greatly appreciated.
I'll make sure to post any results.[/QUOTE]Unless you want to chance going into Incheon itself, I don't know many options near the airport - although there maybe some "barbershops" in the shopping areas near the airport, and if you wanted to rest you can ask in arrivals (info desk) for a nearby guesthouse (W50 000 - W70 000) with pick-up/return service and take a walk around. Not sure what is there, though, but the guesthouses are good value for a night-time layover
Into Seoul itself - take an express bus to Kangnam City Air Terminal (1hr-ish ride). It is at Samseong subway station Line #2 (Green line), close to the Anmas at Seolleung and Yeoksam stations, 1/2 stops away on the subway. You can get directions / names of places around these stations especially from other forum posts (not an expert here), but lack of Korean may be a problem. Barbershops (with the multiple spinning poles) are also around.
Good luck.
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yes, you too can be a Korean model
[url]http://www.banobagi.co.kr/face/post_photo/cafe_post_face.asp?adcode=6OLFLEMEUHDXWA4XOJVVP5CBY[/url]
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Catire: Your Air Afrique Ticket is Waiting for You at ICN
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVtpbeqEeDM&feature=related[/url]
;)
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[QUOTE=Catire]yes, you too can be a Korean model[/QUOTE]
If that's your idea of a model, it no wonder you have issues with Korean women.
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[QUOTE=Coitus68]If that's your idea of a model, it no wonder you have issues with Korean women.[/QUOTE]
my "issues" with Korean women are simply that I find their "culture" to be Martian and generally speaking, they don't really do much for me outside of blueball relief.
You (and others) are entitled to feel differently.
Sure there are some stunners and models, but that's true for any country the world over and in most other countries, you'll find much greater variety among the model set. I'll take NYC or Miami models over the Seoul set, ok?
Neither you, or I, nor anyone on this board will be banging a Korean stunner or model anytime soon (unless you're willing to shell out unspeakable sums of money) so it's really not an issue now, is it?
Walking around the streets of St. Petersburg or some large cities in Latin America is much better on the eyes (at least my eyes), not to mention that your odds of actually snagging one of them will be considerably higher than around here.
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[QUOTE=Catire]my "issues" with Korean women are simply that I find their "culture" to be Martian [/QUOTE]
You really are confused. I guess you didn't get the memo, eh? All women are Venusian (although some - and here I would include some Koreans - are mnore Venusian than most); we're the Martians - except those that are Uranuses, (like the newbies and low-post-count wankers who show up here or PM looking for custom-tailored advice and or a meet, then don't have the courtesy to show-up or post even a thank you, let alone follow-up reports).
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]You really are confused. I guess you didn't get the memo, eh? All women are Venusian (although some - and here I would include some Koreans - are mnore Venusian than most); we're the Martians - except those that are Uranuses, (like the newbies and low-post-count wankers who show up here or PM looking for custom-tailored advice and or a meet, then don't have the courtesy to show-up or post even a thank you, let alone follow-up reports).[/QUOTE]
I'm well aware of the Mars and Venus dynamic, but my point of reference was Terran.
My reference is non gender specific - whereas there are cultural differences between almost every country, I still classify them as basically Terran.
Korean culture, on the other hand, I classify as Martian.
(clearly, I'm not referring to "pay me to fuck me"), that one is universal.
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I will be in Seoul Korea at the end of the month. I am not from Seoul so cannot help in advising where the best locations are, but this thread does justice. I can speak Korean for anyone who needs a translator perhaps.
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Bargain Stars
miya, once a superstar on this board but in recent times been relegated to oblivion, has a sumo wrestler type girl working in her shop at the top of the hill. looks are truly deceiving because she has the persona of a submissive princess. fun girl with excellent bj skills and most importantly, she’s very patient.
if you visit one of these clubs on the hill at night and the doors are locked, you hear music, you knock, no one responds, you knock again, still no response what do you think she's doing in the club? hard for them to answer you when their mouths are full. some people are way too slow to be out on their own. this guy came by three times knocking then banging on the door, peeping through the door crack, i hope he's reading this and don't pull that stuff on anyone else, just wait your turn.
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The hill
Stumbled to the hill last night after my date didn't pan out. My first time there on a Friday night. I've always gone on weekdays before. Also, I haven't been to the hill since the winter. There definitely seems to be a new crop of girls around. Also, since I hadn't been there on a weekend before, there was just a shitload of pussy around. I was approached by "Bean" from somewhere around Madrid half way up. I think she walked out from the one beside where the infamous old mama-san is. I know you shouldn't take the aggressive ones but she was cute and had what appeared to be an incredible ass. Asked her for an hour and she obliged. We walked across the street to the apartments. "Bean" was really cute with short hair. Her ass was simply amazing. It was big and round; not your typical Korean ass. What made it ever better was that she was about 5 feet tall which just made her ass more amazing due to her proportions. She was a bit of a clock watcher but it was peak hours so it was understandable.
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Damages on the Hill
Bobojo13,
What werre the damages for the lady you mention. I will be there in two weeks and plan to hit the hill during my stay. I have read posts on rates for other ladies but want to keep up with the going ratets.
Thanks,
Frank M
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I paid 150 for an hour; it's fairly standard. They always say it's 100 for a pop, but you usually can talk them down to 70 or 80. There are some girls who charge more and won't negotiate it. These girls might be more skilled or in more demand. I definitely recommend a weeknight. I don't like having too many witnesses to my deeds. And the girls are more relaxed and in less of a hurry.
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No Kidding!!!
[quote=run mann]some people are way too slow to be out on their own. this guy came by three times knocking then banging on the door, peeping through the door crack, i hope he's reading this and don't pull that stuff on anyone else, just wait your turn.[/quote]this has happened to me more than once. and actually, a pair of black guys burst through the door when the lock wasn't set correctly at a certain venue at the top of the hill while my dick was inside the girl in the stand up doggy.
the guys were polite and stated, "uh, sorry man", and that really didn't bother me too much because i went right back to business, but sheeeesh!
if the door is locked, fuck off! and wait your turn.
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List or summary
Obviously I don't want to sift through 300 odd pages.
Is there a summary or list of places in town anywhere?
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Pink changed thier name into Koreanchicks
Somebody told me the pink just got busted a few days ago. Is that true? But it's not on the news yet, right?
And are the news paper ads still okay? He also told me the authorities are watching on them because some local Koreans report those ads to them.
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[QUOTE=Rolledup]Obviously I don't want to sift through 300 odd pages.
Is there a summary or list of places in town anywhere?[/QUOTE]
Obviously!
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Pink changed their name into Koreanchicks
Somebody told me pink got busted a few days ago, is that true?
And the newpaper massage ads are still fine? I heard the authorities are watching on them because some local Koreans have kept reporting those ads to the police.
I posted this earlier, but it seems like the admin didn't accept or I just lost it.
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Perfect 10
Decided to go the distance tonight to Mia. Well worth the trip! First pop was new reg with tattoos. She put on little weight, and her mouth gave me spicy dick (she just ate spicy noodles), but GFE all the way. She came twice and shuttered with each orgasm.
On way out, decided to say hi to old spot that had previous porn star freak. New face was high end, beautiful eyes, young, perfect body! Playful with mad skills, BBBJ, took it like a trooper. She also came twice, and thanked me in English! Perfect 10! Been long time since I had that much fun in K land.
Surprisingly agemas were really friendly tonight too!
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VIP Coex
after spending a hot (90+ f) day in seoul looking at korean women in their short skirts and shorts, i felt a burning urge to see a naked, or at least partially naked, korean female body. something about those white, shapely korean legs really gets me worked up. i had been to belle a couple times in the past but decided to try vip this time based on other reports. i also knew exactly where vip was and didn't feel like walking around all over the place in the heat looking for a new place, so of i went to vip.
i was met by a young guy who walked me to the massage room and collected 80k. the room was small but clean with a curtain at the entrance. there was a massage table with a basin at the end for washing feet (which didn't happen in my session). i changed into the boxer shorts, and after a few minutes my girl arrived. she was young and attractive (i'd say 7 face and body) with big tits for a korean girl, and was wearing a tight dress with a low cut top and very short skirt. i was excited about what i saw.
she directed me to lay face up, then she spent about 5 minutes massaging my stomach with hot towels. then she asked me to turn over, and she spent a good 30 minutes working my back, neck, and legs (shorts still on) with oil. she also walked on my back for a few minutes. the massage was ions better than the half-assed effort you normally get at rub-and-tug places, but still not quite up to professional spa standards.
when she was finished with the massage, she dimmed the lights and removed my shorts. then she started doing a very light, sensual touch massage on my back and ass, eventually reaching underneath to work on the boys. after a couple minutes of that she asked me to roll over and it was time for the hj. her top stayed on the whole time. i tried touching her boobs but she gently pushed my hands away and said no. i did get to feel her up under her skirt a little with no resistance. in fact, she even opened her legs so i could get all the way up. she didn't seem to mind giving me unlimited access through her panties.
all in all, a decent experience, but i was a little bummed that i didn't get to see any skin. i left a little hungry in that regard, but i did feel relaxed. the massage was very good and the hj was skillful.
would i go back? perhaps. if i'm in the mood for a halfway decent therapeutic massage with just a bit extra, then vip is just the ticket. the place is cleaner and less rushed than belle, but i enjoy the oral attention that you get at belle plus the fact that the girls strip down to their panties there.
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Cheonho Review
Well thanks to the good directions I got to take a taste of Cheonho.
In my opinions pretty much the same RLD as everywhere but not up to par in service.
Damage: 120W for one hour multipe pops
Advantage: Get a selection of girls as opposed to one chick behind every mirror + A bit larger then I remembered from two years ago. Which means I could walk around leisurely and take my time. Of course every time I walked by the girls were yelling "Oppa" ~ so that was fun.
Met up with a cutie right at right side of the main entrance to the RLD. Her name was Sunny. Cute is my style and she was adorable - had alot of egyo. Service was was a harsh 5 but just the relaxed atmosphere was 10. Her body was a 7 as well - I like big titts but I had bigger titts then her (i'm athletic by by the way - stay in shape ... so that means something). Bad news - the RLD here is really picky with foreigners. They will take gyopo's but a bit more harsh with strict foreigners.
Beware - they now have gangsters around each corner just in case something happens. During my browsing a drunk guy tried to get into a room and the mama-san kept saying now and eventually three Korean from what I know and studied laid some heavy boxing on this guy and threw him out. Foreigners were folllowed in one or another by a gangster as well.
Overall though - I wouldn't go back. I live all the way in Incheon so there's no point for me to travel all the way across to Seoul (east side) to get to a place that has decent girls but so so service.
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Seeking info on Incheon
To fellow friends ~
I'll be moving towards the Incheon side. If anyone knows or has any information on the goods on this side please let me know. Seoul is good ... but sadly I don't see it worth my time to ride the bus or take the subway for 1+ hours to get some ass.
Any information on previous known anma's, offictel's, etc ... is appreciated. I'm around the Bupyong area.
PS - invitations to monger together is still open
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[QUOTE=Gen X Baer]Well thanks to the good directions I got to take a taste of Cheonho.
Beware - they now have gangsters around each corner ... Foreigners were folllowed in one or another by a gangster as well.
[/QUOTE]
Great, fuck club and fight club all at a single venue.
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[QUOTE=Anduher]Somebody told me pink got busted a few days ago, is that true?[/quote]
Pink and UEscorts both got busted and their websites shut down (and one lame attempt by LE to post a sting to craigslist by posing as Pink)
[quote]And the newpaper massage ads are still fine?[/quote]
They've never been a problem in the past. Mainly because they've been lowkey in the language they use, as opposed to the explicit and blatant language used by the aforementioned escort services.
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[QUOTE]Pink changed their name into Koreanchicks[/QUOTE]
Yeah, same same.
[url]http://koreanchicks.webs.com/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Coitus68]Pink and UEscorts both got busted and their websites shut down (and one lame attempt by LE to post a sting to craigslist by posing as Pink)
U escort got busted in late or mid April but Pink escort just got busted a few days ago, they had been working as a Koreanchicks. The police have been kept looking for them. But it's not on the news yet,that's why I asked in my previous post.
They've never been a problem in the past. Mainly because they've been lowkey in the language they use, as opposed to the explicit and blatant language used by the aforementioned escort services.[/QUOTE]They will might be in trouble like U or Pink, I have a clue, of course it will takes time, if the police wants to bust them, they need to entrap them. My friend has told me, but he is out of town, I can't disturb him to ask about this, let me get back later.
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Please anybody translate this.
My friend just sent out this email and left. I can't wait until he comes back.
Hope some koreans will translate instead of him.
I think he couldn't email the whole email contents for somebody else's privacy, looks like he got these email/or comment from some Korean sites, or maybe not I don't know.
"얼마 전 경찰측으로부터 핑크에스코트 운영자와 핑크에스코트와 연관된 인물들을 모두 검거하였다는 소식을 들었습니다. [url]www.koreanchicks.webs.com등의[/url] 새 사이트와 전화번호 역시 모두 수사의 중요한 정보로 이용되었습니다. 감사합니다.
조사가 종결되면 해당 광고 및 웹사이트 등은 폐쇄 될 것으로 기대하고 있습니다. "
"현재 Jinagina의 사이트 운영자는 다수의 사이트를 중복적으로 운영하고 있으며, 그에 대한 광고도 여러 게시판에 하고 있는 것으로 알고 있습니다. 인터넷성매매감시단에서는 이 사이트들과 해당 사이트 운영자 및 성매매 알선업자를 고발하기 위한 준비작업을 지난주부터 진행하고 있습니다.
bobos출장마사지 역시 모니터링을 하여 작년에 이미 경찰에 신고 하였으나, 수사가 잘 진행되지 않아 사이트만 차단되었습니다. 올해 모니터링을 진행하면서 bobos에서 사이트 및 블로그를 다시 운영하고 있음을 확인하였고, 이 역시 고발을 준비중에 있습니다."
"시민으로서 우리나라 국격을 떨어뜨리는 영자신문사 - 코리아 헤럴드, 코리아타임즈, 중앙데일리 인터내셔널 트리뷴-에 나오는 마사지 광고들의 이른바 일본식 "출장 성매매"에 관해 제보드리고자합니다. - 제보인지 신고인지 정확한 용어는 담당 경찰관님이 판단하여 주시기 바랍니다. -
제가 원래는 신문들의 광고를 카피한다든지 아니면 그 사람들의 통화내용을 녹음한다든지 하여야겠지만- 제가 사법경찰관이 아닌지라 거기까진 못하겠고요-, 사이버경찰서 민원 서식이 이것한가지뿐이라 여기에 일단 올립니다.
담당자님이 사건을 파악하실 예정이시라면 우선 영자신문들 전부를 거리 가판대에서 구입하시고, 마사지 광고들을 보시기 바랍니다. 일단 전화번호하고 상호만 나와있고 사업자 등록 내지 허가 번호는 안나와있습니다. 아마 분명 세금신고 않고 전화하나로 영업하는곳임에 분명합니다.
마사지광고를 위장한 성매매임을 알 수 있는 근거는 전화로 문의 시 신문지상 가격은 십만원으로 나와있습니다. 십만원에 마사지 받고 싶다 하시면 십만원짜리는 없다고 하거나 십만원은 남자 마사지사가 간다고 할겁니다, 그러면서 그 남자 마사지사는 오늘 일안하니 다음에 전화하라고 할겁니다.. 다 포함된것은 - 영어로 how much do you charge for everything - 얼마냐하면 20만원이라하고 그때부터 예쁜사람 보낸다 하고 1시간 짜리라할겁니다.
그 사람들이 외국인 대상으로 하기때문에 한국말로 전화걸거나 한국사람인줄 알면 아가씨 없다고 하거나 영업 끝났다고 할겁니다. 주로 호텔 손님들 방문이기 때문에 전화로 문의시 이 사람들이 성매매를 한다는 정황증거만 있으면 전화번호를 추적해 어디로 여자들을 보내는지 확인후 현장 적발만 하면 체포가 가능할것 같은데 왜 단속을 안하는지 모르겠습니다.
외국사람들이 그러던군요. 영자신문은 Jaebul (재벌)이라 단속을 못한다고요. 순간 한국사람으로서 수치심이 느껴지더군요.
핑크 에스코트하고 유에스코트가 단속이 되었다는 내용이 있습니다.
[url]www.asiancorrespondent.com/korea-beat/online-foreigners-and-escort-services-in-korea[/url]
위 사이트에서 들어가 보시면, 사람들이 comment를 달았는데 신문 마사지광고는 경찰들에게 말하지말라는 한 외국인의 댓글도 보입니다. "Don't tell them about the massage ads in Korea herald and korea times"
저는 사실 영업상 외국인들 수행하여야하는 경우가 있어서 제가 그들옆에서 그 사람들이 한국에서 성매수를하고 한국 여성들은 성매매를 하는 상황이 참 곤혹스럽습니다. 재벌이든 누구든 수사 할 의지가 있는 대한민국 경찰임을 믿어봅니다. 아마 영어가 자유로우신 외사과에서 관할 하신는게 좋을 듯합니다.사실 신문사 소유주는 사주일 뿐이지 마사지 광고는 광고를낸 개인의 행위일 듯 합니다."
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Minhee @ Nymph
[QUOTE=Ready81]I just had the pleasure of Minhee at Nymph. Very sweet and very young. Definitely not a clock-watcher and somewhat intelligent. I get the feeling she is somewhat genuinely shy as well. Lots of giggling and kissing.
Very small boobs but one of the most amazing asses I have ever had the pleasure of riding. Big, white, round, and smooth. Got her digits and plan to have a longer romp in the future.[/QUOTE]
Ok, I had tried finding this girl multiple nights and I had finally given up. So today at around 6:30 pm, I was walking to What the Book to buy a Lonely Planet Costa Rica guide, and I noticed the open sign was on at Nymph. I didn't think it was really open that early, but I decided to walk by for the hell of it. To my surprise, a young hottie opened the door. She was wearing tight short shorts and a hooded shirt. Damn, she looked so cute, not super hot or anything like that, but cute. I went inside and she introduced herself as Minhee, 20 years old.
Anyway, we went to one of the couches in the back and for a couple lady drinks (40k) I got to worship her ass and she gave me a handjob. Before you guys call me a bottom feeder, let me say I only had that much on me because I went out to buy a book, not a piece of ass; I was totally unprepared!
She said she only works the weekends and Tuesday, so I might go back tomorrow for the main course. If I can make her my late afternoon/early evening regular, and have Nana as my late night/early morning regular, I think I'll be set.
Now all I need is a girl for the 10pm-2am time slot!
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[QUOTE=Anduher]Tbut Pink escort just got busted a few days ago[/QUOTE]
No, they didn't. They were busted at, or just after, the same time UE was. Emails were taken a week or so after that. That was about the time LE tried their lame sting on craigslist by posing as Pink (I posted their "ad" several posts below).
Emails went out last month about "you'd better leave Korea before the police find you and get you in trouble". Then an almost immediate reply from the same address saying they were "hacked" and to disregard the previous email, and that nothing was wrong.
Uh huh.
Anyone who continues to contact any of those bozos deserves what they get.
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Great, fuck club and fight club all at a single venue.[/QUOTE]LOL Only if you're drunk and misbehaving.
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Some info on Incheon + scary experience Yeongdeungpo RLD
[QUOTE=Gen X Baer]To fellow friends ~
I'll be moving towards the Incheon side. If anyone knows or has any information on the goods on this side please let me know. Seoul is good ... but sadly I don't see it worth my time to ride the bus or take the subway for 1+ hours to get some ass.
Any information on previous known anma's, offictel's, etc ... is appreciated. I'm around the Bupyong area.
PS - invitations to monger together is still open[/QUOTE]I am in Incheon (close to Bupyong) several times a year for about a month each time. I have been to Yongsan and 588 to sample the goods, but never tried it out in Incheon. I know there is a RLD close to Ganseogogeori subway station (Incheon line). I went there this spring around 4-5 pm, but everything was closed. I don't know if that's the case or if I was too early. If I remember correctly it was exit 5, but not sure about this. The exit is right next to an another exit, with only a wall separating the exits. Take the exit to the right. It is a long walk to get to the exit.
I've also heard rumours about a RLD close to Gyeongin National University of Education subway station, but never been there.
As for anma's, double barber pole's and massage places, they are as you probably know everywhere. I went inside a massage place in the Shinsegae area during last visit, but wasn't happy with the girl. Luckily, I had agreed upon beforehand on a refund if not satisfied with the girl. Not that the girl was ugly, but I am very picky. That's why I prefer the RLD. I like to see before buy
Last fall I was at Yeongdeungpo RLD for the first time. It can be a little tricky to find. It is located very close to the Shinsegae shopping mall. As I walked down towards the glass houses and the girls started yelling oppa to me, suddenly the yelling stopped and all the girls rolled down the "gate/door" of their glass houses as if they were in a hurry to close. Instinctively I turned right away from the RLD and walked towards a office building behind Shinsegae. When I looked over my shoulders I saw a police car driving past slowly. Afterwards, I walked back to the entrance of the RLD and saw a couple of very observant men with walkie talkies and business was back to normal.
Gen X Bear
Would like to meet up when I am in Incheon. You can contact me on my hotmail address (same as my user name here, but with a underscore between mojoman and 74)
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As I told you before, I got these from my friend and I had to wait until he comes back. If you are confused a little, please see my previous post.
"얼마 전 경찰측으로부터 핑크에스코트 운영자와 핑크에스코트와 연관된 인물들을 모두 검거하였다는 소식을 들었습니다. [url]www.koreanchicks.webs.com등의[/url] 새 사이트와 전화번호 역시 모두 수사의 중요한 정보로 이용되었습니다. 감사합니다.
It says " We heard that pink got busted lately from the police and the web site and phone number which were given by you were helpful. We think the web site will be shut down shortly when the case is closed."
BTW, I,Anduher think the pink was busted after on May 23rd, because the last update of his ads on the internet, some classifieds ads was done on May 23. You can check it out his phone number on google and you will see his all ads comes up. Check his last update.
조사가 종결되면 해당 광고 및 웹사이트 등은 폐쇄 될 것으로 기대하고 있습니다. "
"현재 Jinagina의 사이트 운영자는 다수의 사이트를 중복적으로 운영하고 있으며, 그에 대한 광고도 여러 게시판에 하고 있는 것으로 알고 있습니다. 인터넷성매매감시단에서는 이 사이트들과 해당 사이트 운영자 및 성매매 알선업자를 고발하기 위한 준비작업을 지난주부터 진행하고 있습니다.
It says " Jinagina has been running a few web sites here and there in different names and we have been preparing to charge them since last week."
bobos출장마사지 역시 모니터링을 하여 작년에 이미 경찰에 신고 하였으나, 수사가 잘 진행되지 않아 사이트만 차단되었습니다. 올해 모니터링을 진행하면서 bobos에서 사이트 및 블로그를 다시 운영하고 있음을 확인하였고, 이 역시 고발을 준비중에 있습니다."
It says " We have been monitoring bobos and actually reported them to the police last year,but it didn't work well, the police just shut down the web site. We were able to find the Bobos again this year on the internet also found the web site and some blogs, so we are preparing to charge them."
"시민으로서 우리나라 국격을 떨어뜨리는 영자신문사 - 코리아 헤럴드, 코리아타임즈, 중앙데일리 인터내셔널 트리뷴-에 나오는 마사지 광고들의 이른바 일본식 "출장 성매매"에 관해 제보드리고자합니다. - 제보인지 신고인지 정확한 용어는 담당 경찰관님이 판단하여 주시기 바랍니다. -
제가 원래는 신문들의 광고를 카피한다든지 아니면 그 사람들의 통화내용을 녹음한다든지 하여야겠지만- 제가 사법경찰관이 아닌지라 거기까진 못하겠고요-, 사이버경찰서 민원 서식이 이것한가지뿐이라 여기에 일단 올립니다.
담당자님이 사건을 파악하실 예정이시라면 우선 영자신문들 전부를 거리 가판대에서 구입하시고, 마사지 광고들을 보시기 바랍니다. 일단 전화번호하고 상호만 나와있고 사업자 등록 내지 허가 번호는 안나와있습니다. 아마 분명 세금신고 않고 전화하나로 영업하는곳임에 분명합니다.
마사지광고를 위장한 성매매임을 알 수 있는 근거는 전화로 문의 시 신문지상 가격은 십만원으로 나와있습니다. 십만원에 마사지 받고 싶다 하시면 십만원짜리는 없다고 하거나 십만원은 남자 마사지사가 간다고 할겁니다, 그러면서 그 남자 마사지사는 오늘 일안하니 다음에 전화하라고 할겁니다.. 다 포함된것은 - 영어로 how much do you charge for everything - 얼마냐하면 20만원이라하고 그때부터 예쁜사람 보낸다 하고 1시간 짜리라할겁니다.
그 사람들이 외국인 대상으로 하기때문에 한국말로 전화걸거나 한국사람인줄 알면 아가씨 없다고 하거나 영업 끝났다고 할겁니다. 주로 호텔 손님들 방문이기 때문에 전화로 문의시 이 사람들이 성매매를 한다는 정황증거만 있으면 전화번호를 추적해 어디로 여자들을 보내는지 확인후 현장 적발만 하면 체포가 가능할것 같은데 왜 단속을 안하는지 모르겠습니다.
외국사람들이 그러던군요. 영자신문은 Jaebul (재벌)이라 단속을 못한다고요. 순간 한국사람으로서 수치심이 느껴지더군요.
핑크 에스코트하고 유에스코트가 단속이 되었다는 내용이 있습니다.
[url]www.asiancorrespondent.com/korea-beat/online-foreigners-and-escort-services-in-korea[/url]
위 사이트에서 들어가 보시면, 사람들이 comment를 달았는데 신문 마사지광고는 경찰들에게 말하지말라는 한 외국인의 댓글도 보입니다. "Don't tell them about the massage ads in Korea herald and korea times"
저는 사실 영업상 외국인들 수행하여야하는 경우가 있어서 제가 그들옆에서 그 사람들이 한국에서 성매수를하고 한국 여성들은 성매매를 하는 상황이 참 곤혹스럽습니다. 재벌이든 누구든 수사 할 의지가 있는 대한민국 경찰임을 믿어봅니다. 아마 영어가 자유로우신 외사과에서 관할 하신는게 좋을 듯합니다.사실 신문사 소유주는 사주일 뿐이지 마사지 광고는 광고를낸 개인의 행위일 듯 합니다."[/QUOTE]
It says. I have to make it short, it's a long story as my friend say,
" I'd like to report the massage ads on Korea herald, Korea times and Joonang daily. Those ads look just normal massage but it's not true. They are call girls, prostitutes. Shame on Korea. If you are willing to investigate them, those ads, just collect those three news paper ads and get all massage ads' phone number, you try to call them, if they realize, you are Korean, they will must say, they are not available. If you call in English and ask for a girl, they will must say it's 200 grand and the girl is pretty and it's for everything. Those ads work with only phone number, it seems like they don't have a business registration number or any permit number for a massage, of course they don't pay any tax. I work with foreigners for my business, I am not comfortable when I have to see them buy sex here and see Korean ladies work like that. I asked them, my client, why the ads don't get busted ever, they say it's because the owner of the newspapers are Jaebul,재벌. I hope and beleive you police will get it right, whoever owns the newspapers, what difficulties you've got through, please investigate those ads. I don't understand why you guys don't do anything , just trace their phone number and find out where the girls are going ,break into and just bust them, why not?"
BTW, I,Anduher just saw the article of [url]www.asiancorrespodent.com/korea-beat[/url] and hit Pink escort on a search section, the article that he told came up and one comment also came up, it says, "don't tell them about news paper massage ads on Korea herald and Korea times" the person who wrote the above report mentioned the comment, we might need to be careful when we post a comment.
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[QUOTE=Adem86]Hey,
Back from a very long Hiatus. Its been almost a years since I've last logged on.
Anyways, I went to a nice Anma right in front of the Gangnam Novotel. It is literally across the street. There is a big neon sign and it leads down a really steep side street. The door is in the wall on the left side of the street. 180k won for the time. I was there for an hour and a half and had no phone call interrupt or anything. I guess its a YMMV deal and I was taking my time.
PM me and I'll take you there. I've been looking for an excuse to go again!. I can speak the lingo, I'm korean.[/QUOTE]Hi there,
Thanks for this report indeed. I'm currently having a room in the Novotel in Gangnam, and I plan to go to this Anma tomorrow or on Thursday.
I have a couple of questions though:
- apart from the big neon lights (I can see them from my room, is there any distinctive sign to find the place?
- is it foreigner friendly?
- if so, does the 180k apply to foreigners?
- do they speak a bit of English?
Actually, any other place that fellow mongers may suggest around Novotel Gangnam would be welcome.
Thanks,
Guits
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Greetings fellows!
I am arriving for a business trip in Seoul, Tue-Sat. I usually stays at the Novotel or Ritz at Gangnam. Up until now I was too busy during my visits and had no time whatsoever to take care of myself.
Luckily, I am going to have quite a lot of free time this time so I was wondering if you guys can give me some tips.
1. Would you say that Gangnam is a good area for such activities? I speak fluent Japanese (As I live in Japan, though, not a japanese) and I was told I can easily pick up JP chicks around Lotte World Hotel. Any comments?
2. I was told about Korean Viagra or replacement for Viagra.. I am quite curious to try it out. Is it legal? if yes, where can one get it?
Thanks in advance
Seba!
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Suprised...
i forgot to post my experience in oct 09 when i was in seoul.
i live in the states and i am very familiar with the p4p scene in amps, houses and escorts. i was in seoul for a friends wedding and during one night of drinking, the grooms brother decided to show us where the ladies shoot ping pong balls out of their pussies. he couldnt remember the name of the area, so we decided to ask a cab driver about that kind of show. ive never heard of such shows in korea, but he said he saw it when he was last in korea which was during the glory days of the mongering scene in seoul. the cab driver never heard of it either, but decided to steer us towards miari, which in turn is where my friend remembering seeing the show. we get dropped off there and the first thing i hear is an ajuma saying we were waegs to her peer. i, being the dick of the group, immediately snapped out, "who you calling waegun, old lady!" she immediately apologized which made us all laugh since i actually dont look korean. we walked around in the dark alleys of miari and our leader found a place where the mamasan tempted us with beer, ahnju and pretty women. we accepted and went upstairs to her establishment where all were provided and the women werent bad looking. cost was 70k which wasnt bad with the current exchange rate of 1300w=1dollar. i have read the boards for a while and pretty much new what to expect in terms of service for the price. my partner and i went to her room and started off with some bbbj. felt great for the 5mins it lasted and she then moved on top for some cowgirl action which i love. we were at it for about 30secs when i tried to remember whether she put on a condom. im used to the condom being slipped on during the bj part of the session, but with my dulled senses, couldnt pinpoint when she slipped it on. so i slowly moved my hands to my dick and was shocked to find no condom while she was bouncing up and down on mr wiggley. holy crap!!! i quickly asked her to get off and asked her where was the condom? she stated most korean men dont use condoms, and my being a gyopo, figured i didnt either. tempting as it was, i asked her for one and moved onto doggy and finished there so i could make sure i still had the condom on. after i was done, my friends all told me the same thing about korean men not liking to use condoms. defn an interesting session to say the least.
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nothing surprising about it at all. Nobody really "likes" condoms. At best they're a necessary evil.
Since Koreans think all std's in their country are foreigner related/caused they're not as worried about such things so long as they don't see whiteys around where they go to get off.
what surprised me is you not being able to tell whether you were wearing one or not. For me the difference is so intense the only way I'll never know is if someone jumps on me just after I die.
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In my previous post I wrote about how one side of the RLD in Cheongnyangni has been demolished and buildings were disappearing and there was construction going on. I figured this will be the end of Cheongnyangni RLD and the whole place will be gone in a couple of months. Well, I checked out Cheongnyangni a few days ago and it seems like no further damage has been done to the area yet.
However, the quality of girls has gone absolutely downhill. I don't think I can see myself ever heading back there again.
Just wanted to clear that up cause I remember someone asking that he heard the RLD in Cheongnyangni is gone. It's still up and running, but the girls don't look so good. They're too plastic for me.
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Yangjae DBP
I want to report my experience from last month in Yangjae. Take exit 4 from subway station and walk straight till u see dbp. Once you get in you will see a lady in her mid 30s. Foreigner friendly. She will ask for 90k, but talk her down to 70k. Great GFE (if you can speak korean), DFK, BJ. She will do anything except anal. Overall I had a satisfying, non-racist experience after a long time.
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Decided to go the distance tonight to Mia. Well worth the trip! First pop was new reg with tattoos. She put on little weight, and her mouth gave me spicy dick (she just ate spicy noodles), but GFE all the way. She came twice and shuttered with each orgasm.
On way out, decided to say hi to old spot that had previous porn star freak. New face was high end, beautiful eyes, young, perfect body! Playful with mad skills, BBBJ, took it like a trooper. She also came twice, and thanked me in English! Perfect 10! Been long time since I had that much fun in K land.
Surprisingly agemas were really friendly tonight too![/QUOTE]Dude, what was the damage?
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Report on Cheonho 6/14/
visited cheonho on korean "kiss day"
service was spectacular. sadly the first girl i picked wasn't really up to par.
1st girl - right by the entrance of the rld. her name was sunny ... which means her korean name was probably sung-hee. nice cute little thing with a bubble butt to die for. flat though :( she was all about kiss day and we spent the first ten minutes just kissing and fondling. then moved into the shower and she did a good job of keeping her lips and hips stuck to my body throughout the whole rub. then simply moved to the bedroom while her bubble butt stuck to my member and just immediately jumped in. cfs of course. i have yet to find a section in the rld that'll let me go bbfs. if anyone knows it would be much appreciated. sadly i didn't finish as condoms in korea are small as hell and just leave me with a numb feeling. but it was an hour well spent so i left smiling.
if you're interested in a girl with a cute yet seductive voice - nice ass - mango boobs - and a pleasant attitude i would recommend her.
damage - 120,000w for an hour.
2nd girl - walk straight in from the main gates about 80meters and you'll find a corner turning right. the shop on the left has a girl who looks like a mix between thai and korean. nice rack and cute butt. she holla'd "oppa" to me a couple of times while i made my round and eventually during my third trip she came out and told me she just had something to tell me. so i walked in with her to her room and she closed the door and started talking about random nonesense. lol. she promised she'd give me a good time seeing how it was kiss day so i told her that i already played and couldn't finished so was a bit frustrated so if she guaranteed a finish then i'd play. she promised. natural shower + bbbj + and cfs. of course i couldn't finish by an hours time so she finally took the wrapper off and let me slide in between her thighs and lather back and forth. her juice kept flowing out while i was sliding so it was well lubricated. surprisingly it got me to to the peek and when i told her she got on her knees and started suxing. bam. finish in her mouth.
her name was heng-bok (happiness in korean) and she had dirty brown hair. as i said, nice melon breasts and tight ass. no anal. though she didn't mind allowing a bit of rubbing. if she's the type u're looking for bon appetite :d
damage - 120,000 + 20,000w tip for a job well done.
so that's my report.
if anyone has any information on where we can find some girls who'll allow bbfs or pictures plz let me know. all the girls i used to know have gone to a better place (aka. found real jobs) so i'm happy for them but sadly that means i need to start all over :( happy mongering peeps.
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[QUOTE=Gen X Baer]Visited Cheonho on Korean "Kiss day"
Sadly I didn't finish as condoms in Korea are small as hell and just leave me with a numb feeling. [/QUOTE]
Duh! Ever consider bringing your own? I've been packing my own supply of Okamoto Big Boy's ever since I discovered them. Can't be beat, IMO, even though they are not the thinnest in the Okamoto line. Also not available in the ROK, but easy enough to get shipped in from one of the HK condom shops. Some of the other Okamoto brands are available here, e.g., in the drugstore in fish alley in the 'ville, but they don't stock the larger sizes even there.
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Tips on the Hill
I'll be dropping by Seoul for a few days later in the month to see a friend and I'll be staying in the Hamilton.
I've read the forums and SPs on the Hill seem to be reluctant working with asians. I'm Japanese-American and don't really speak Korean but I'm not sure if this is going to make a big difference. I'm kind of curious as to why they're so reluctant to work with local Koreans?
Anyway, I'm looking for any recommendations on SPs (on the Hill for logistical reasons) and a rough estimate of the cost; since I'm only here for a few days I'd rather be efficient with exchanging currency. I'd prefer higher quality and don't mind paying extra.
Great info guys and I'll be reporting back soon.
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[QUOTE=Episodal Gia]I'll be dropping by Seoul for a few days later in the month to see a friend and I'll be staying in the Hamilton.
I've read the forums and SPs on the Hill seem to be reluctant working with asians. I'm Japanese-American and don't really speak Korean but I'm not sure if this is going to make a big difference. I'm kind of curious as to why they're so reluctant to work with local Koreans?
Anyway, I'm looking for any recommendations on SPs (on the Hill for logistical reasons) and a rough estimate of the cost; since I'm only here for a few days I'd rather be efficient with exchanging currency. I'd prefer higher quality and don't mind paying extra.
Great info guys and I'll be reporting back soon.[/QUOTE]
The Hill SPs generally avoid Koreans because: (i) some of them work on the hill instead of other venues in order to avoid the possibility of six degrees of separation working to reveal their occupation to friends and family, and/or (ii) they don't like the attitude and behavior of Korean players.
They are generally more accommodating of others, including especially Japanese. As a JA, you are potentially the best of both worlds in their eyes.
Young-Eun @ Y.E. Lotus doesn't usually play much herself anymore, but has a lot of Japanese trade to which she and her girls are very welcoming. Unfortunately, her shop may or may not be open; it seems to be closed a lot lately - which I surmise is because she is off travelling with her sponsor in Japan or elsewhere
Another good bet is Soo-ae @ Peach Phuzz who speaks passable Japanese and English. She would be my choice, but I'm biased. ;)
Both are on the more expensive side, particularly if you are interested in something more GFE and less wham, bam, thank you m'am, but well worth it IMO. You may be able to slide w/ ~KRW300K, but plan on 500. Both will also take Yen.
Other possibilities are the girls at Nymph and Nana @ Moulin Rouge.
Peach Phuzz, Nymph and Moulin Rouge are all close to one another straight up from Itaewon high street on the main uphill street off which Hooker Hill proper breaks to the left near the bottom. Y.E. Lotus is just passed the turn.
BTW, the Hamilton is a bit of a dump; you'd be better off (probably at a lower rate, too) at the nearby Hotel D'Oro, which is also SP friendly.
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[QUOTE=Episodal Gia]I'll be dropping by Seoul for a few days later in the month to see a friend and I'll be staying in the Hamilton.
I've read the forums and SPs on the Hill seem to be reluctant working with asians. I'm Japanese-American and don't really speak Korean but I'm not sure if this is going to make a big difference. I'm kind of curious as to why they're so reluctant to work with local Koreans?
Anyway, I'm looking for any recommendations on SPs (on the Hill for logistical reasons) and a rough estimate of the cost; since I'm only here for a few days I'd rather be efficient with exchanging currency. I'd prefer higher quality and don't mind paying extra.
Great info guys and I'll be reporting back soon.[/QUOTE]If you are japanese american don't bother with the hill those are like the 3rd tier girl go to yongsan station or chonyangi or one of the other rld it you will be accepted at a cheaper price instead of the hill with those drunk girls who try to have you buy overpriced drinks and reak of liqour but you being japanese american you will be able to get the top shelf at the rld for real don't bother with the hill they are mainly there for the american soldiers or african immigrants.
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Juicy Girls in Seoul...???
It's been years since I've been in Korea but I find myself living back in Seoul after a 10 year break. I'm looking for some up-to-date expert advice to find the best Juicy Girls in Seoul. I'm familiar with the pros/cons of these venues, but would like to experience the best Seoul has to offer of this type of bar. Of course, I'd like to find someplace with a large selection of personable young ladies (no preference for nationality), with the possibility of extending our encounter to a local hotel (I've got no problem with covering the abligatory bar fine.)
So how about some advice. Best place, largest selection, prettiest girls, etc?
Please include bar names and directions (street or landmarks if known.)
BTW: any Russian girls left in town/Korea?
Thanks for the help. Hope to tell ya all about your recommendations.
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[QUOTE=Civ Pilot]So how about some advice. Best place, largest selection, prettiest girls, etc?[/QUOTE]
Advice? You mean other than RTFF?
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Cialis,Viagra
Looking for Cialis,Viagra in Seoul if anybody is wanting to get rid of some.
Thanks!
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Wingmen need apply here
Fellow friends ~
I'll be free and mongering this Wed and Th night so if any of y'all fellas want to hunt together let me know. Already met up with a couple during the daytime but we all know the actions good at night :P So hit me up thru PM if anyone's interested. Peace ~
Happy Hunting
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[QUOTE=Wwallace1]Looking for Cialis,Viagra in Seoul if anybody is wanting to get rid of some.
Thanks![/QUOTE]You can get vitamin blue OTC @ the Adult Shop on Itaewon high street on the south side of the block east of the big CJ advertising bldg.
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]You can get vitamin blue OTC @ the Adult Shop on Itaewon high street on the south side of the block east of the big CJ advertising bldg.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately they won't sell it to me.
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Meet up
Hey gen x baer,
I am a gyopo and would be interested in meeting. I don't think I can pm you though. So if you can send me a mail or one to [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]
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[QUOTE=Wwallace1]Unfortunately they won't sell it to me.[/QUOTE]
Maybe it's that plaid <strike>skirt</strike>kilt you're wearing? ;)
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[QUOTE=Cactusthief]Dude, what was the damage?[/QUOTE]
60 bones per pop, usually 70,000won. However, you risk agema banging on your door for lower rate (unless you are a regular). I just tip the girl the man won instead. Best bang for your buck, and if service sucks, you won't feel as violated.
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Myeong Ga
[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]For those comng from further afield, and automotively-challenged, your best bets are either Seollung Station or Yeoksam Station on the subway. From Seollung, leave by the most northwesterly exit (sorry, don't know the exit #, but you want a little challenge don; t you? ), and proceed west along the northside of the big boulevard, Teheran-no, a few blocks until you reach the Renaissance Hotel. As I said it's about a ten minute walk, and the Hotel can't be missed.
For those getting off at Yeoksam, do the reverse: exit at the most northeasterly access stairway and walk due east along the northside of Teheran-no until you reach the hotel. It's probably a little closer to Yeosam than Seollung.
When you get to the Hotel go to the side street running north along its west side. For those who are directionally-challenged, look for the Buy the Way convenience store that is on te corner of the side street and Teheran-no.
The usual suspects are all located on the three alleys that run west (left) and generally uphill off the side street. There are at least a dozen or more establishments, and they are that: most are 5-6 story buildings of substantial size.
According to a previous poster, the renowned Baek Sung is on the second alley about a third to halfway up in a Mediterranean-style building. I didn't see anything I would describe as Mediterranean, but there was a building in a sort of pastiche of late Renaissance-eraly Baroque style, with vestigial ironwork balconies tacked onto the windows on the front facade, in the indicated location. If it is indeed the former Baek Song, it's now called Myeong Ka, but the sign (over the door) is in Hangul. The other principal visual features are the main entrance at the lower right hand corner of the building, flanked on the left side by 2 or 3 narrow display windows behind which are mannequins decked out in elaborate feathered gowns, nest to which is the car park with the famous Korean "modesty curtains".
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Thanks to the info in this forum, I stopped by Myeong Ga today. I am a gyopo so unfortunately, if you are a foreigner, you won't be serviced here. 180k won for service.
Received a key for a locker and went downstairs and took a quick shower. Sat down to surf the web for a minute or 2 and the mama came down and told me she had a pretty girl with nice breasts but was on the short side. Told her that was good enough and she told me to wait for the "event" service.
About a minute later, the elevator opens and a girl in a tanktop, jean shorts, and a eye mask tells me to come into the elevator. We go up the whatever floor she pressed but then she stopped the elevator before the door opened. She pulls down my shorts and starts a pretty nice BBBJ for a minute. She slaps on a cover and bends over and tells me I can bang her doggie style for a moment (about a minute or so). Nice little warm up to the main event. She pulls my pants back up and allows the elevator to open up again. One of the male workers leads me to a room with a girl whose name sounded like "Hyang".
Hyang has a pretty face and is quite busty (probably a small the or big C) but is probably 5 ft tall. She tells me to take off my clothes and we go into the shower area in the room. Unfortunately at this point, she takes off her clothes to shower me up and I'm kinda not into her body type. Great body above the waist, however, she is cursed with short stubby legs and a flat ass. And I forgot to mention earlier that I noticed something wrong with her teeth (they looked real black or dark) which I eventually realized were braces.
So here I am wondering whether I should go on with the session or ask the front desk/mama for a new girl. I decide to go with the latter. I apologize profusely to Hyang but she is totally cool and sweet about it. I tell the mama I don't want someone with braces and that maybe I would want someone slimmer (I like big boobs but like the slender look as well). Keep in mind that I would probably rate Hyang a 6 or 6. 5. I could see others rating her higher but I'm pretty picky with Asian girls.
I'm led to a different room and meet E-sul. She is about 5'6", very slender but tight body with A cup boobs (nice and perky). Face is so-so about a 5 or 6 but body is a 7 or 8. Oh well, I feel bad about asking for another girl so I take the plunge.
She starts by washing me up real well in my crotch area and my ass. I go lie on the bed face down and does the whole tongue bath thing and then starts an above average rim job. I flip over, BBBJ, a little DATY but she wasn't into it and she seemed a bit tired. E-sul also made a comment about my size but continued the BBBJ for 10 minutes or so. She covers me up and we go at it mish and doggie. I felt bad in the end b/c she was in quite a bit of pain and I took around 15 minutes to finish. She was a trooper though and did her best to not show the pain. A couple of turnoffs. No DFK, no CIM.
Anyway, cleaned up and rinsed off again and I was on my way. I guess I would recommend if you have the funds but to be honest, I'd rather hit up 588 or Yongsan RLD where I can see the goods and choose and pay less than half the price (180k vs. 70k).
One last thing. E-sul and I were chatting about the US and the various type of people there and she was quite adamant about not being with anyone other than an Asian. I don't think she dislikes them but is just fearful of them. Just another example of the xenophobia still quite prevalent in Korean culture.
Sorry for the long post but I hope it was useful. Also to reiterate Kimchiwarrior, there must've been at least 7 or 8 anmas within the 2 or 3 blocks near the Renaissance (both on the north and south side of teheran-ro).
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Yongsan RLD
Stopped by Yongsan RLD last night for the first time. I've been to 588 several times in past visits to Seoul so this was somewhat exciting for me.
Unfortunately, there really wasn't too much to be excited about. I just walked through the A-row a couple times trying to scope out the talent. Eventually settled on one pretty hot girl. 7. 5 face, 8 body (very slender, tight bod) but awful boob job and I can't remember her name. Service was ho-hum as usual. BBBJ followed by covered FS. No dfk or lfk. Whatever. In and out in 20-25 minutes and damage was the usual 70k. Can't complain since I come from NYC where you get pretty blah service from older but hot koreans for $200 (everything covered).
There were about 15 girls working in the A-row. Probably about four or five 8's, and several girls who were 6's or 7's. Wasn't too different from 588. Again no foreigners for these girls (at least the girl that I chose so I'm assuming most of the others are the same).
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Massage by Hilton Millenium
I am staying at the Hilton so I decided to take a walk and look for a double barber pole establishment. After getting lost in the market to the left of the hotel, I finally found a place that had the service I was looking for. I was a little confused at first since the double striped poles were not there. There was one striped pole and a much larger white pole with writing on it. After assending to the third floor I got my second surprise. When I entered the room, I saw what I could only desribe as an AMP in the DC area. There was no barber in sight. (My past experience always had a barger in the room) Just a Mamasan who greeted me with open arms. She took my hand and walked me back to a hallway with multiple massage rooms. I changed into shorts and waited for my MT. IN walks a cute, attractive lady in a two piece outfit. From there it only got better, I had a great 1 hour massage. On the flip I was expecting the typical HR but here I receive the best surprise of the night: A slow sensual BBBJCIMSP. I was now in heaven.
It is great to be back in Seoul, and even better is, I know how to find the place again. The experince was a little high 80, 000 but wel worth the time.
Frank M
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Bravo for a sleuthing job well done! I'd consider your experience a bargain for 80k. An hour of quality massage is not cheap, let alone the BBBJ.
[QUOTE=Frank M]I am staying at the Hilton so I decided to take a walk and look for a double barber pole establishment. After getting lost in the market to the left of the hotel, I finally found a place that had the service I was looking for. I was a little confused at first since the double striped poles were not there. There was one striped pole and a much larger white pole with writing on it. After assending to the third floor I got my second surprise. When I entered the room, I saw what I could only desribe as an AMP in the DC area. There was no barber in sight. (My past experience always had a barger in the room) Just a Mamasan who greeted me with open arms. She took my hand and walked me back to a hallway with multiple massage rooms. I changed into shorts and waited for my MT. IN walks a cute, attractive lady in a two piece outfit. From there it only got better, I had a great 1 hour massage. On the flip I was expecting the typical HR but here I receive the best surprise of the night: A slow sensual BBBJCIMSP. I was now in heaven.
It is great to be back in Seoul, and even better is, I know how to find the place again. The experince was a little high 80, 000 but wel worth the time.
Frank M[/QUOTE]
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Itaewon: a Two Part post
This is a two part post:
Part 1: I was in Itaewon last night walking around, and to my surprise, I got propositioned by a Korean SW. It was around 9pm, and she was standing by the BK, in front off the New Balance store. She is 5'2' to 5'4", brunette hair with some accent color, glasses and 5 to 6 months pregnant. While I have been known to pick up less attractive woman, the with child part just turned me off. (and I was heading back to bar by my hotel to watch the World Cup) But, for anyone who may be interested, I did ask her about tuition fees. She quoted 100K for an hour. Not a bad price compared to the DC area.
Part 2: The reason I was in Itaewon was to search out the Sex Shop where one can buy Viagra. To my disappointment, I did not find it. Could someone post more detailed directions, so a half blind guy like me can find it.
Thanks,
Frank M
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[QUOTE=Frank M]This is a two part post:
Part 2: The reason I was in Itaewon was to search out the Sex Shop where one can buy Viagra. To my disappointment, I did not find it. Could someone post more detailed directions, so a half blind guy like me can find it.
Thanks,
Frank M[/QUOTE]
Sure. It's on the south side of Itaewon high street to the east. Go past the original Sortino's toward the Cheil Jedang Building - it's the big modern structure at the intersection, across from Hana Bank. Cross the intersection. The adult shop is in the first block on the south side on the second floor; entry is up a narrow flight of enclosed stairs
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Sure. It's on the south side of Itaewon high street to the east. Go past the original Sortino's toward the Cheil Jedang Building - it's the big modern structure at the intersection, across from Hana Bank. Cross the intersection. The adult shop is in the first block on the south side on the second floor; entry is up a narrow flight of enclosed stairs[/QUOTE]
Let's make it easier. Stand in front of the Cold Stone Creamery facing the Hamilton Hotel. Walk to your right, down the main street. Walk past Helios, walk past the big staircase (that leads up to the sauna), walk past Rocky Mountain Tavern, when you get to the big intersection, cross it. The shop is about 4-5 doors down, on your right, on the second floor.
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Your place better than mine!
[QUOTE=Frank M]I am staying at the Hilton so I decided to take a walk and look for a double barber pole establishment. After getting lost in the market to the left of the hotel, I finally found a place that had the service I was looking for. I was a little confused at first since the double striped poles were not there. There was one striped pole and a much larger white pole with writing on it. After assending to the third floor I got my second surprise. When I entered the room, I saw what I could only desribe as an AMP in the DC area. There was no barber in sight. (My past experience always had a barger in the room) Just a Mamasan who greeted me with open arms. She took my hand and walked me back to a hallway with multiple massage rooms. I changed into shorts and waited for my MT. IN walks a cute, attractive lady in a two piece outfit. From there it only got better, I had a great 1 hour massage. On the flip I was expecting the typical HR but here I receive the best surprise of the night: A slow sensual BBBJCIMSP. I was now in heaven.
It is great to be back in Seoul, and even better is, I know how to find the place again. The experince was a little high 80, 000 but wel worth the time.
Frank M[/QUOTE]I try to find the place you described, but no luck. Only the first part (get lost in the market). Walked around, but no sign of your place. After a while, I give up, go south to an old faithful I like, across from City Air Terminal.
Arrived about 19:00, still sweaty from the market. Doorman took me to a cubical. I don't speak Korean, he told me the rules in English. 80,000 for 1 hour oil massage and HJ, "NO SEX". Price the same every time. I paid him (trust this place). He gave me the locker key and shorts.
Changed, lain down on the table. 20+ cutie (6 or 7) came in. Very basic English, but enough to relax. Started with a foot wash. That's maybe my favourite part. Then turn over for very oily massage. Shorts gone, but nothing rude, just gentle pressure all over.
After half hour, she tells "massage is over, start service" but doesn't let me to turn over. Instead, starts oiling and teasing buttocks and everything she can reach. After 5 minutes, I am ready to turn over. She wipes off the oil, over we go.
Best HJ in a long time. Starts very gently, it takes a long time. I'm afterwards lying there panting. "You OK?" she asks. "Better than OK" I think.
Left after being rub down with steamy towels. Gave a good tip, promise to go back.
Real easy to find, PM if you need help. Enjoy it.
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[QUOTE=Bigguy3]Stopped by Yongsan RLD last night for the first time. I've been to 588 several times in past visits to Seoul so this was somewhat exciting for me.
Unfortunately, there really wasn't too much to be excited about. I just walked through the A-row a couple times trying to scope out the talent. Eventually settled on one pretty hot girl. 7. 5 face, 8 body (very slender, tight bod) but awful boob job and I can't remember her name. Service was ho-hum as usual. BBBJ followed by covered FS. No dfk or lfk. Whatever. In and out in 20-25 minutes and damage was the usual 70k. Can't complain since I come from NYC where you get pretty blah service from older but hot koreans for $200 (everything covered).
There were about 15 girls working in the A-row. Probably about four or five 8's, and several girls who were 6's or 7's. Wasn't too different from 588. Again no foreigners for these girls (at least the girl that I chose so I'm assuming most of the others are the same).[/QUOTE]I'd like to emphasize again that SOME will accept foreigners. I have been accepted on the A row multiple times. (Im pretty young and not terribly bad looking, but still). Depending on the time you go, you'd be surprised the amount of A rows that will accept at Yongsan.They will charge more, however.
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Hooker Hill update
A couple of experience I've had on the Hill this past week:
1. Early last week in the late afternoon I was in Itaewon and wanted to see if Min Hee was at Nymph. She wasn't, so I decided to just walk back to the Hill and see if there was anything going on up there. Again, this was maybe 5 pm on a Monday I think, so I wasn't expecting anything. I go up near the top and the bar between Happy Days and Bridge was open, mamasan told me to come in. I went to the back and sat down on the bed. She came back a few minutes later with a young, but fat girl, said she was 23. She had a big tattoo on her left arm. Mamasan said I could fuck her for 70, 60, every second that passed the price seemed to come down. I told her I wasn't interested and if she had another girl. She said no too early. I was pretty horny, but there was no way I could fuck this fatty, so we agreed on 40k for a BJ. I must say fat girls are good at sucking dick (I guess they have to be) and this one was no different. I just sat back and thought about my ex live-in from the Philippines and that was that. So, there it is, cheap release, if that's what you want.
2. Did an all nighter in Itaewon last night and found myself at Apple at about 7:30 am. I was expecting to see Inna or another one of those old hags, but I was very surprised to find a cute, skinny 20 year old girl. Mamasan said she'd only been there three days. I can't remember her name, but she was wearing jean shorts and a green top. No English spoken, so I negotiated with mamasan. As we headed to the back, mamasan told me to "teach her what you want". She's very submissive so I abused her with my mouth for a while before we moved on the the main event. She's got small perky titties and a hairy pussy. Ezinho recommends.
BTW, I can't seem to meet up with my regulars anymore, they are always busy. I'm not sure if it's because I posted about them on here or what, but no problem; I'm leaving Korea in a couple months for Thailand or Latin America anyway. In the meantime, I'll keep up the recon and let you guys know what else I find.
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No shower?
[QUOTE=Frank M](...)She took my hand and walked me back to a hallway with multiple massage rooms. I changed into shorts and waited for my MT. IN walks a cute, attractive lady in a two piece outfit. From there it only got better, I had a great 1 hour massage. On the flip I was expecting the typical HR but here I receive the best surprise of the night: A slow sensual BBBJCIMSP. I was now in heaven(...)
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Per your report, you didn't shower, and the girl gave you a BBBJ ???
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No Shower
I did receive a BBBJ without a sh0wer, but I guess I should provide some more detail. As the massage started, the MT soaked my body in what I thought to be some type of oil. After that she covered me with towels which she slowly removed during the course of the massage. After each area was massaged, she then removed what oil was remaining with more towels. This was done for my whole body and before the final event. I guess she thought that any dirt or grime from my johnson would have been successfully removed. But a shower would have been nice.
To help with the location, from the Hilton go through the parking garage to the main street on the backside of the hotel. Make a right and walk about 20 minutes (give or take). Walk past the entrances to the underground shopping center. As you get through this area, look up. The building is three stories , on the left side of the road, with a large video screen on top of it. If you are standing in the road, facing the building, the massage place is on the right corner of the building. Yuo will see the two differnet poles. If you look to your right, further down the street, you will see the Hotel Crown.
Frank M
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First time to Yongsan RLD during a quick trip to meet the family. I'm not sure what the specific lingo is, but the main row of ladies were mostly attractive and I ended up choosing to visit a girl closest to the exit of the RLD onto the sidewalk. 70k price (as I saw in earlier posts) for a brief BBJ and then completed mish. Girl was a definite looker, I would say around a 8-9. Anyways, just wanted to give a thanks to all y'all on the board here for posting such information and leading me to the right direction. Although I am left with a bit of paranoia over catching something from her. Cheers!
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[QUOTE=Frank M]This is a two part post:
Part 1: I was in Itaewon last night walking around, and to my surprise, I got propositioned by a Korean SW. It was around 9pm, and she was standing by the BK, in front off the New Balance store. She is 5'2' to 5'4", brunette hair with some accent color, glasses and 5 to 6 months pregnant. She quoted 100K for an hour.
Thanks,
Frank M[/QUOTE]
frank-
she not preggo- she just fat.
i used to fuck her before the 20 extra lbs. good fuck tho. or she used to be.
carmex.
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Same girl
[QUOTE=Carmex]frank-
she not preggo- she just fat.
i used to fuck her before the 20 extra lbs. good fuck tho. or she used to be.
carmex.[/QUOTE]It sounds like the same girl that hit me up in broad daylight one afternoon in front of Cold Stone Creamery. Not too subtle I must say.
The other "street" gal who's become a pain in the butt is "Be Chung". I made the obvious mistake of buying her some food and something to drink at a convenience store one time and having a friendly conversation with her. Given her frequent requests to find alcohol I imagine she's an alcoholic looking to score booze more than anything. She can be nice and even speaks English better than many - Anyone familiar with her story?
Some interesting characters out there.
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Tired of the cock blocking!
My buddy is in visiting for a few days from USA. We used to be roomies here in Korea, so I let him crash at my pad and even helped him out with some cash. Has always been a good wingman, and team player. Tonight, he told me he was gonna hook up with an old flame until midnight and then we would hit the night on the town. I asked him 3 times if she is bringing a friend, which he clearly stated negative (I even gave him play by play directions on where to find a cheap hotel). At 930pm I get a missed call as I was napping preparing to go out (he knows I am sleeping). After waking up and having a quick power workout, I call him on way to Itaewon. He tells me she did bring a friend, and her friend has hooked up with his kyopo buddy (who mysteriously appeared last night with no warning over dinner when my reg girl was present). I spent the whole goddamn day reminding him the importance of the wingman and "pairs" in hooking up local talent in Korea. Of course, kyopo gives the classic line "I think she's ugly and I don't want her, I have a steady girlfriend". Bit the moment she shows interest in me, he's all over her, cockblocking me telling her about my relationship sitiuation. Did I forget to mention she was SMOKING HOT! Even when her friends show up, the damage is done, and after scooping digits from one, and trying to get her out of the club, the friend stops her and tells her what kyopo has said.
First of all, I am pissed at my buddy, who knows damn better. Secondly, I am tired of the Korean cockblockers, and worst of all, these insecure kyopo guys who would rather steal my potential prize than see a fellow Korean (girl) with a white guy. I have had enough of the double standard bullshit (and I have experienced this enough times to see a consistent pattern).
I desperately don't want to become bigoted, but this is getting over the top!
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit] *gyopo cockblock* [/QUOTE]Was the gyopo from either coast? From my experience gyopos from either the west or the east coast seemed to be more of an ass than the ones from the midwest. They're all about the "K-pride" but they don't even know how to speak the language. A lot of Koreans even told me they don't like most of the gyopos they met cause some gyopos seem to think they're hot shit just cause they lived overseas and know English. I can see why they might be insecure about losing a hottie to a whitie.
Sorry to hear about your bad night, better luck next time.
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[QUOTE=Gildo]Was the gyopo from either coast? From my experience gyopos from either the west or the east coast seemed to be more of an ass than the ones from the midwest. They're all about the "K-pride" but they don't even know how to speak the language. A lot of Koreans even told me they don't like most of the gyopos they met cause some gyopos seem to think they're hot shit just cause they lived overseas and know English. I can see why they might be insecure about losing a hottie to a whitie.
Sorry to hear about your bad night, better luck next time.[/QUOTE]
New York kyopo. No surprise there. Worked things out with my buddy, reminded him of the cockblocking ways here. He's actually gonna crash at kyobos house now (prevents drama for me on the homefront). He actually wanted to bring out the rest of kyopos buddies tonight. I said HELL NO! I seen these guys at Hyatt cockblocking other western dude,trash talking my buddy with racial remarks (he's black BTW). But I understand that he gets more play when you got Korean guys vouching for you with the K ladies. Let's see how tonight goes and what bullshit will unfold.
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[QUOTE=Juju86]If you are japanese american don't bother with the hill those are like the 3rd tier girl go to yongsan station or chonyangi or one of the other rld it you will be accepted at a cheaper price instead of the hill with those drunk girls who try to have you buy overpriced drinks and reak of liqour but you being japanese american you will be able to get the top shelf at the rld for real don't bother with the hill they are mainly there for the american soldiers or african immigrants.[/QUOTE]Hi,
I'm planning a short visit to Seoul some time at the end of the year on my way for a vacation in Vietnam and I'm just curious what are the chances for a Vietnamese American at these rld's? Though I'm Vietnamese I look very East Asian and the last time I was in Seoul I was mainly mistaken as Korean or Japanese even by other Japanese tourists. Should I pretend to be a gyopo that doesn't know Korean?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]But I understand that he gets more play when you got Korean guys vouching for you with the K ladies. [/QUOTE]
But that is the whole point: they DON'T vouch for you. I get more action by myself or with a non-Korean buddy than I ever did with a Korean "wingman". They are all about the sabotage while working the girls for themselves.
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Recent Hill Report
So after a one year lay off due to the big titted blonde American, I can now breathe a sigh of relief and head back to the hill, or so I thought.
First girl I ran into was Sarah from Ambrosia at the bottom of the hill. Taller girl, but always willing to do whatever and a solid three holer (sometimes, depending on how drunk I was or how much won I had). She was all over me and insistent on 200 KW, which at 7am I was reluctant to give up. She started sulking and I headed up the hill. Where I ran into Candy.
Candy was at the top on the left going up, and man what a sweet body and vagina! Even with the cover on I could tell she was nice stuff. Great boobs and good attitude, I made her get on top for a while then mish for the big finish. Unfortunately for me, too much drinkee and I could not pass mustard, but was fun to bang away at a 23yo with a great body for a while.
I then headed out and was confronted by another girl. She wanted BJ for 70,000, and I just figured, "what the hell". So, another cover on and a seemingly uneventful BJ later, she says she wants to fuck. I look over at her couch and was like, "you got to be kidding me". So she says, lets go back to your house.
Like I said, too much drinkee, and I agreed. She paid taxi and off we went. We get to my house, take shoes off, and start to argue about money. Anyway, on with the shoes and out the door she goes. First time that ever happened! Really I was looking forward to some good boning in a nice comfortable bed, but alas, it was not to be.
Ah, life on the hill. Is it good to be back? I am not sure. I keep thinking about other guys comments about 70,000 KW at the Yongsan RLD and wondering why I don't go there.
As an aside for the Korean buddy fuckers out there, don't know why that is happening. I know some good K guys that will set me up with K girls no problem. I think it just depends on the guy because I know some American guys that will fuck up your game if given the chance also. I would say, "Get a new wingman". I will admit I haven't been in Korea for very long, but still, if it smells like a rose...
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Itaewon Juicy Bars
Just to confirm some previous reports. The Itaewon juicy bars is an expensive sport. You need to be ready to spend a good amount of money just for drinks and the rest depends on the girl. I've had an offer in one bar for 120K short time but I declined because I didn't like the girl. In all others there was no offer. I've had a nice time with a girl in Lotus BUT be aware the place is a rip off and they charge more drinks than actually the girl has consumed.
From my experience it is only the Lotus that tries to charge more drinks. In all other bars they are decent but Lotus is really a rip off.
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Recon and Report on Seoul RLD's
I don't want to duplicate what has been amply recorded here, but I just want to report that a mid-40's, bald, pudgy, white and freckled North American with only two Korean phrases can find what he is looking for in Seoul!
I visited Yongsan RLD, Miari RLD and 588 RLD over the past two days (right around lunch time) to check things out. In each location, only about 25% of the windows were occupied. As previously reported in the Forum, the A-Row girls had a distant, glazed-over look to them as I passed by, but perked to life when even the oldest, shriveled, curmudgeon Korean laborer or tinted-window car got within 15 meters. But, since I expected it, I didn't take offense; I just laughed to myself and enjoyed the view. Some were smokin' hot and others were far too impressed with themselves for me to consider them attractive.
B-row ladies at both Yongsan and 588 were more than willing to call me over (Appa....Appa...!), but I didn't see anyone in whom I was interested. One or two were probably possibilities after a sufficient quantity of soju, but not quite what I was looking for--I'm trying to be VERY polite.
I didn't last long at Miari, because I decided to visit the room of the first mamasan that grabbed me; I was not disappointed. There were three girls in the room for me to choose from. I was entertained by a relatively attractive 27 year-old lass (probably 5'3", 110 lbs, nice small b-cups) who pushed all the right buttons and got the job done with the standard amenities in the standard time frame. I"m sorry, I don't remember her name...it was a different combination than I've heard before.
After our initial 70K won round was completed, she tried to talk me into another round with her or one of the other two women who were in the front room, but I called it quits after the pleasant first round.
Her English ability wasn't great, but we were able to communicate all the necessities. She told me that I was a very nice man and begged me to come back again soon. She even brought the other girls back to the room to chat after we were finished. Since it was just after noon, I'm pretty sure I was the only guy in the house...maybe the entire RLD!
So, as I said above, my mission was successful and the previous reports were spot on. B-Row girls at Yongsan and 588 were willing, but A-Row possibilities for this blantantly caucasion middle-ager did not exist. The house at Miari was very equal-opportunity and I plan to return.
I do have a question for the regulars who have read this far. Is it possible to negotiate at the outset for two shots for less than 140K? If so, how about a different girl for each shot at a discounted rate? Just wondering...
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[QUOTE=Gern]B-row ladies ... were more than willing to call me over (Appa....Appa...!)[/QUOTE]
I don't know about you, but I have difficulty being with any women who thinks I'm her dad.
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]My buddy is in visiting for a few days from USA. We used to be roomies here in Korea, so I let him crash at my pad and even helped him out with some cash. Has always been a good wingman, and team player. Tonight, he told me he was going to hook up with an old flame until midnight and then we would hit the night on the town. I asked him 3 times if she is bringing a friend, which he clearly stated negative (I even gave him play by play directions on where to find a cheap hotel). At 930pm I get a missed call as I was napping preparing to go out (he knows I am sleeping). After waking up and having a quick power workout, I call him on way to Itaewon. He tells me she did bring a friend, and her friend has hooked up with his kyopo buddy (who mysteriously appeared last night with no warning over dinner when my reg girl was present). I spent the whole goddamn day reminding him the importance of the wingman and "pairs" in hooking up local talent in Korea. Of course, kyopo gives the classic line "I think she's ugly and I don't want her, I have a steady girlfriend". Bit the moment she shows interest in me, he's all over her, cockblocking me telling her about my relationship sitiuation. Did I forget to mention she was SMOKING HOT! Even when her friends show up, the damage is done, and after scooping digits from one, and trying to get her out of the club, the friend stops her and tells her what kyopo has said.
First of all, I am pissed at my buddy, who knows damn better. Secondly, I am tired of the Korean cockblockers, and worst of all, these insecure kyopo guys who would rather steal my potential prize than see a fellow Korean (girl) with a white guy. I have had enough of the double standard bullshit (and I have experienced this enough times to see a consistent pattern).
I desperately don't want to become bigoted, but this is getting over the top![/QUOTE]Totally sorry to hear about your situation. I admit, I'm a kyopo, born and raised in America. But I soooo totally know what you're talking about. If you go to the clubs in Gangnam-gu, especially in Apgujeong or Gangnam-yeok, a lot of those people are kyopos who seriously think they're the shit. Honestly, the more you talk to them, the more you realize just how pathetic they are. They think they're so cool because they're partying in a different country and when the go back to America or Canada, they can brag about how much partying they did.
Like how Gildo said, a lot of Koreans will tell you that a good number of kyopos are unwanted and really just a pest. They try getting into fights with the wrong people and end up paying for it big time. Just keep doing your thing man and I hope everything turns out well for you!
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[QUOTE=Coitus68]I don't know about you, but I have difficulty being with any women who thinks I'm her dad.[/QUOTE]Yeah. I assume they were saying "Oppa, Oppa" which means "older brother" technically, but can be used by a girl to mean any guy older than her. Just like we can call a woman we're friendly with "Noona" if she is older (even though she isn't really our sister). Also similar to how girls call each other "Onnie" which means sister. But they aren't all sisters!
They don't say "Appa" to anyone but their father! Even for Koreans that's one hell of a psychobilly freakout!
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[QUOTE=Coitus68]I don't know about you, but I have difficulty being with any women who thinks I'm her dad.[/QUOTE]
Yeah...and I know I'm not as sprite as I once was, but even if I add a year (Korean age), I'm pretty sure they were older than I am!
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Yongsan RLD, Miari RLD and 588 RLD
[QUOTE=Gern]I don't want to duplicate what has been amply recorded here, but I just want to report that a mid-40's, bald, pudgy, white and freckled North American with only two Korean phrases can find what he is looking for in Seoul!
I visited Yongsan RLD, Miari RLD and 588 RLD over the past two days (right around lunch time) to check things out. In each location, only about 25% of the windows were occupied. As previously reported in the Forum, the A-Row girls had a distant, glazed-over look to them as I passed by, but perked to life when even the oldest, shriveled, curmudgeon Korean laborer or tinted-window car got within 15 meters. But, since I expected it, I didn't take offense; I just laughed to myself and enjoyed the view. Some were smokin' hot and others were far too impressed with themselves for me to consider them attractive.
B-row ladies at both Yongsan and 588 were more than willing to call me over (Appa....Appa...!), but I didn't see anyone in whom I was interested. One or two were probably possibilities after a sufficient quantity of soju, but not quite what I was looking for--I'm trying to be VERY polite.
I didn't last long at Miari, because I decided to visit the room of the first mamasan that grabbed me; I was not disappointed. There were three girls in the room for me to choose from. I was entertained by a relatively attractive 27 year-old lass (probably 5'3", 110 lbs, nice small b-cups) who pushed all the right buttons and got the job done with the standard amenities in the standard time frame. I"m sorry, I don't remember her name...it was a different combination than I've heard before.
After our initial 70K won round was completed, she tried to talk me into another round with her or one of the other two women who were in the front room, but I called it quits after the pleasant first round.
Her English ability wasn't great, but we were able to communicate all the necessities. She told me that I was a very nice man and begged me to come back again soon. She even brought the other girls back to the room to chat after we were finished. Since it was just after noon, I'm pretty sure I was the only guy in the house...maybe the entire RLD!
So, as I said above, my mission was successful and the previous reports were spot on. B-Row girls at Yongsan and 588 were willing, but A-Row possibilities for this blantantly caucasion middle-ager did not exist. The house at Miari was very equal-opportunity and I plan to return.
I do have a question for the regulars who have read this far. Is it possible to negotiate at the outset for two shots for less than 140K? If so, how about a different girl for each shot at a discounted rate? Just wondering...[/QUOTE]Your report is spot on. I've had pretty decent luck in Yongsan RLD, Miari RLD and 588 RLD. Well - just did reconnaissance in Miari but the "door's are open" so to speak.
The earlier in the evening and the week the better my luck has been as well. I think if you are reasonably dressed, it's say 6pm on a Monday, Tuesday etc., the "A" row girls can be friendlier. In fact I walk around for kicks on the hill more than partake at this point. Just better and easier in the RLD's mentioned. RLD rates can be had for 60W in many cases.
Another stop is Yeongdeungpo station area. If you veer left as you leave the big department store attached to the subway station you'll find a series of small alleyways that lead to a bowery type zone. Not for the faint of heart or to everyone's liking for sure. Across the major intersection from the department store (again head in a leftward direction is another small RLD. Yeongdeungpo is poor and rough - there is some street walker action up the road (yet again, go left on the main drag. In the afternoon at least the women are usually much older and in pretty bad shape. There is a sprinkling of SW activity on the edges of the RLD area as well.
I'm curious what other SW action is in Seoul that people could post about? Any areas worth checking out? I vaguely recall a post from way back that mentioned a SW area supposedly run by gangs (maybe I'm mis-remembering it) but I can't find the post again.
I've wandered around some streets where there are the no-tell hotels with the "privacy" flaps covering a view of parked cars there. Seems like an obvious area for SW's but I've never seen one.
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I'm visiting Seoul from Thur~Sunday.
Is there any place to find chinese girls?
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SW walker In Itaewon
I have never learned how to add the quote text with the blue background screen, but I reported a few weeks ago on what I thought was a a Prego SW in Itaewon. I see from reponses that she is just fat...first off thanks to those who posted the info, and given that she is only fat, I might hit her up. Does anyone know if she is Korean. Not that it matters but she did not look the part.
Also, I have been seeing ads on CL for a place called Asina Paradise and a girl who says she is "Age:28 -measurements 36D-27-36" with three pics. I would be interested if anyone has experience with either provider(s). Knowing that LE have shut down a few places that advertised on CL, I would hate to get caught up in a sting.
Thanks in advance for any info. If you want to PM me, I can be contacted on the sister USA site under the handle of "Frank M".
Frank
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[QUOTE=Frank M]Knowing that LE have shut down a few places that advertised on CL, I would hate to get caught up in a sting.[/QUOTE]
Knowing LE has finally cottoned onto the ads on CL, and have actually shut down two companies (Pink and UE) and at least three independents (the ones who had a net presence, anyway) who posted there regularly, I wouldn't trust any posts on CL at all, and move on to where LE is not looking.
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[QUOTE=Frank M]I have never learned how to add the quote text with the blue background screen
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Click on the "quote" button on the bottom of the post you want to quote and type your response below it.
[QUOTE=Frank M]
Also, I have been seeing ads on CL for a place called Asina Paradise and a girl who says she is "Age:28 [/QUOTE]
As soon as the ads are posted on CL for Korea they're taken down; there are better/safer ways to to go. The TVs seem to have taken over though.
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ABC Reloaded/Happy Days
The fav was busy the other night when I made an unplanned stop; I didn't have time (or the inclination) to wait around; so I wandered up the Hill. Mamasan troll @ ABC was much nicer than usual; my and what I hope is the boycott of others responding to my previous reports seems to behaving the desired effect. I've also noticed that she hasn't been able to hang on to her SPs - they seem to be changing on a less than weekly basis, and she's got one or two of the real dregs of the Hill on staff. This time around there was one new possible playmate, but I decided to keep on going. Just next door was "Cindy" @ Happy Days [not to be confused w/ "Cindy" @ VIP]. Long, shapely legs in the skimpiest white cut-off jean hot pants ever made with a spangled red push-up bikini top - which she needs having only A cups - but which she doesn't really need, as they are quite nice A cups with attractively pert nipples. Somewhat sharp facial features, but very friendly (I've had her before) and frisky. I wasn't quite sure I didn't want to wait for the fav, so I started off with a couple of drinks in the club. But Cindy's cock-stroking had me stoked in no time, so I decided to throw caution to the hard-on. In fact, I decided I wanted a double, so after a brief consultation with Cindy, we sent out for the aforementioned new girl from ABC. Her name is Yuri. Also long legs, a little too slender to be really shapely compared with Cindy's and otherwise not as attractive on close inspection as she first appeared. Breasts in the overly firm bolt-on B range, a little shapeless through the torso, with a bit of a jelly belly. Finally, a little frog faced behind the screen of her modified shag haircut. I wasn't in the mood for any more shopping delays, though, so decided to take one for the team, if that's what it turned out to be. Boy, was I wrong! Yuri turned out to be a first class cocksucker, and has the tightest pussy I've ever had in 45 years of shagging - in fact it was too tight for me to get more than halfway in when the time came for that, at least without some help from Cindy who obliged by letting me practice PTM to grease the skids. Still it was too tight to be entirely comfortable, and Yuri was obviously hurting, so we switched up so I could fuckCindy reverse cow girl while practicing PTM with Yuri - Did I mention that her blowjob is among the best? - who would alternate sucking me off and watching my dick slide in and out of Cindy, while I finger fucked her. A good time was had by all, especially me, until we finished up with my cock in Yuri's mouth, my balls in Cindy's and, finally, spew all over both their faces. Yuri claimed it was her first time for CIM and a facial - hard to believe given her oral skills - but I'll take it. Both highly recommended. Usual Hill rates for first class long time (1.5 hours) service.
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Abc
[quote=ilovechicas]
kw - regarding the now friendlier mama-san. last week when i was just strolling around the hill she popped out and was offering bj's herself for 40k so maybe she's being nicer to everyone so she's not on the front lines (so to speak).
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good god, that's disgusting to think *she* offered to give a bj.
speaking of disgusting, i went to the hill last thursday afternoon, and took a peek in abc. i may be wrong (please tell me i am) but there were three "girls" working there, but at least two of them looked like ts/tv, the younger ones. is that club know for trannies as well?
btw, abc was the club where i got the young fatty to give me a bj for 40k, so for the mamasan it should be more like 4k i think!
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[quote=ezinho]good god, that's disgusting to think *she* offered to give a bj.
speaking of disgusting, i went to the hill last thursday afternoon, and took a peek in abc. i may be wrong (please tell me i am) but there were three "girls" working there, but at least two of them looked like ts/tv, the younger ones. is that club know for trannies as well?
btw, abc was the club where i got the young fatty to give me a bj for 40k, so for the mamasan it should be more like 4k i think![/quote]
abc to my knowlege does not stock ts/tv. but i've noticed several times when i was in the area during the day, that the troll has opened as early as noon and was "entertaining" other providers from around the hill. maybe what you saw were ts/tv members of the coffee-klatch? oth, respectfully, you seem to be both extremely sensitive about this subject (to each his own!) and (hence?) unusually disposed to seeing ts/tvs where there may not be.
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Another visit to the Gireum Station--Miari RLD
I had some mid-day free time today, so I headed back to the Miari RLD. I had intended to try a different location from the one I reported on two weeks ago, but ended up being captured by the same ajumma and brought to the same sliding door (the location, btw, is on the left, about 20 meters into the entrance of the RLD from Gireum Station exit #10).
The same woman (Kuk Wha) was available and the experience was pretty much the same as reported before. She remembered me and was very glad I had returned. Again, a duo or a subsequent session with the other woman who was present was recommended, but I refused since I was short on time, and she was a bit larger than I would prefer.
When I left, I wanted to explore a bit more of the RLD, so I continued down the alleyway in a staight line from the entrance. I met my ajumma at the first junction and turned left to proceed toward another exit. Another ajumma to whom she was talking followed me and took me into her establishment (located about 20 yards from the hanging curtains on my right hand side as I walked toward the exit).
She and a second ajumma who was stationed in the room tried some high pressure tactics to get me to do a session there, almost including a team tackle, but I did not have time to stick around. There were 5 women there, four of whom were very good possibilties. The situation was quite commical, since I was speaking English, they were speaking Korean, the girls were laughing, and I was being held in a bear-hug by one ajumma and pulled on the arm by another.
I promised to return within a few days. I will report after making another visit.
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Third time NOT a charm
i decided to go back again today to the second location i described in the previous message. the lightheartedness of yesterday was not indicative of today's experience. i also made a number of newbie mistakes and didn't think with the big head, so i guess i deserved the less than mediocre outcome.
here are the warning signs so others can learn...
1. only two women in the room, only one of who was as attractive as those from the day before.
2. mamasan led me to a basement room that smelled of mildew (at best) or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] (at worst).
3. the only three phrases from the woman who showed up in my basement dungeon were: "use condom", "no kissing", and "no touching." by the way...she was the ugly one.
what i should have done was...
1. specifiy that i would only stay if i could have the cute one.
2. complain about the smell and ask for an upstairs room.
3. after hearing "no kissing" and "no touching", i should have said, "no money" and walked out.
so, it was frustrating, uninteresting, and a low point in my p4p history, but i did bust one while working her from behind, and survived to play again. that particular establishment, however, will not get my return business.
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What are the typical opening hours on The Hill and Itaewon? It is now 11PM. Too late to head over for window shopping and atmosphere?
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[QUOTE=D Cups]Apparently coitus has never been to Mexico where the phrases "si, papi", "mas papi" and "mucho grande, papi" is a cultural turn-on for mongers south of the border![/quote]
We are not in Mexico. We're in Korea, and being called dad here is NOT a cultural turn-on. There is a BIG difference between being called "oh-bba" and "ah-bba". Any Korean women calling me "ah-bba" has issues I want no part of.
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[QUOTE=Pita123]What are the typical opening hours on The Hill and Itaewon? It is now 11PM. Too late to head over for window shopping and atmosphere?[/QUOTE]
Most places open ~8PM and remain open until 5/6AM the next morning. There are places that open earlier (generally of poorer quality) and later (closer to 9). Many places also stay open later in the morning the later in the week it is, with the latest closing times being on Saturday and Sunday mornings (~7/8). Many places close Sunday evenings early - 1/2.
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Booking Club and Sexy Bar-Jongno
[QUOTE=Ilovechicas]
It's funny you mentioned the TV/TS mini convention in ABC. I dismissed it w/o thinking when I walked by the place on the weekend but I think I noticed something "different" there myself. As per KW - maybe just hanging out?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, they had masculine faces and were dresssed over the top IMHO (trying too hard to be women, I mean) but whatever. Maybe they were just manly-looking girls. As KW said, to each their own, just thought I would warn the board, that's all. Members on here can go to ABC and and decide for themselves.
Anyway, getting tired of the Hooker Hill scene (oldies, fatties and trannies, oh my!), I went to a booking club last night in Jongno, my first time. It is called Danco, between Jongno 3-ga station and Jonggak station. It used to be a dance club called Rehap, but now it's a booking club. I went there with a Korean friend. We paid 120,000 won for a bottle of liquor and we also got a platter of fruits with it, and some non-alcoholic drinks too. The waiters would literally drag girls to our table to sit and talk with us. Most of them were not too interested in us because a) my Korean language skills are wretched, and b) my Korean friend has the personality of a loaf of bread. There were some very beautiful women at this club, though. A couple of points I'd like to mention:
1. You need to speak good Korean to go to these places. Even basic conversation skills are better than nothing, but even then, will only get you so far.
2. It also helps to be well versed on Korean culture, such as Korean music and movie stars. This will help keep the conversation going, especially with the younger women (under 25 age group).
3. If the waiter drags a girl to your table that clearly doesn't want to be there, just tell her to leave. We made the mistake of pouring every girl he brought to our table a drink, so our liquor didn't last that long. Some girls are more eager than others to sit with you, so don't be afraid to turn girls down, the waiter will always bring more.
4. Even if the girl speaks English, they may not want to talk to you! For example, the waiter brought a girl to our table that was an English teacher, but she didn't want to talk to me; she didn't feel like speaking English!
5. Beware of cock blocking. My buddy had gone to the bathroom, and while he was gone the waiter brought another girl over. This was the best girl I met there, a little darker skin, curvy (S-line), we were talking about Western music; she actually seemed to like me and wasn't afraid of foreigners, like some of the others. Then my "friend" comes back to our table and starts to say how ugly this girls is, she's fat etc. WTF is this all about? I was so taken aback by this I didn't know how to respond. I told him I think she looks good and how westerners and asians like different kinds of women, but he didn't understand. She ended up going back to her table with her friends. I'm not sure if my buddy was cock blocking, or he's just socially retarded, but that was annoying as fuck!
So, after an hour and a half at Danco, we decided to bail and go to a sexy bar, called Las Vegas Sexy Bar, in the same area. We entered and were led up to the third floor. We bought a bucket of beers for 80,000 won and two girls came to sit with us. One was late 20's and looked like Lucy Liu, and the other one was younger with big tits. The way this place works is you just sit around drinking and talking/flirting with the girls, who are dressed in lingere or sexy clothes. The older one said she was a Chinese teacher by day, and worked at the bar at night. Big tits said she was working this job to save up to buy a house. They were pretty fun to hang out with and shoot the shit. They mentioned on the fourth floor, you can rent a private room with the girls, but they were quick to explain that it's not for sex.
Anyway, I got Big tits' number, with no cock blocking from my friend. She mentioned she had a French boyfrend who asked her to marry him, so I think that's a good sigh that she's not afraid of foreign dick. We're texting each other now, but I'm not holding my breathe that anything will come of this. I've learned to keep my expectations very low in this country!
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"jo soom ne da" does not translate to "feels good"
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And I'd say phonetically. It would be "yeppo" rather than eepo!
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[quote=gern]here are the warning signs so others can learn.
1. only two women in the room, only one of who was as attractive as those from the day before.
2. mamasan led me to a basement room that smelled of mildew (at best) or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] (at worst).
3. the only three phrases from the woman who showed up in my basement dungeon were: "use condom", "no kissing", and "no touching. " by the way. she was the ugly one.
what i should have done was.
1. specifiy that i would only stay if i could have the cute one.
2.complain about the smell and ask for an upstairs room.
3. after hearing "no kissing" and "no touching", i should have said, "no money" and walked out.
so, it was frustrating, uninteresting, and a low point in my p4p history, but i did bust one while working her from behind, and survived to play again. that particular establishment, however, will not get my return business.[/quote]hey gern. i had exactly the same experience in miari. well. kind of. in my installment the ugly girl was so hideous that i couldn't even nut from behind (she had a weird moustache on her back!). she did offer bareback and kissing. but i wanted two condoms and a paper bag. so it didn't help. it actually put me of miari (and korean mongering) altogether.
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I miss those days. Is there still BBFS?
I miss those days.
Is there still BBFS on the menu?
[QUOTE=Gern]I had some mid-day free time today, so I headed back to the Miari RLD. I had intended to try a different location from the one I reported on two weeks ago, but ended up being captured by the same ajumma and brought to the same sliding door (the location, btw, is on the left, about 20 meters into the entrance of the RLD from Gireum Station exit #10).
The same woman (Kuk Wha) was available and the experience was pretty much the same as reported before. She remembered me and was very glad I had returned. Again, a duo or a subsequent session with the other woman who was present was recommended, but I refused since I was short on time, and she was a bit larger than I would prefer.
When I left, I wanted to explore a bit more of the RLD, so I continued down the alleyway in a staight line from the entrance. I met my ajumma at the first junction and turned left to proceed toward another exit. Another ajumma to whom she was talking followed me and took me into her establishment (located about 20 yards from the hanging curtains on my right hand side as I walked toward the exit).
She and a second ajumma who was stationed in the room tried some high pressure tactics to get me to do a session there, almost including a team tackle, but I did not have time to stick around. There were 5 women there, four of whom were very good possibilties. The situation was quite commical, since I was speaking English, they were speaking Korean, the girls were laughing, and I was being held in a bear-hug by one ajumma and pulled on the arm by another.
I promised to return within a few days. I will report after making another visit.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Suwon]And I'd say phonetically. It would be "yeppo" rather than eepo![/QUOTE]
you do know that "yebbo-yo" and "eebbo-yo" are DIFFERENT words that, essentially, mean the same thing, right?
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Seoul In August
Dear mates,
I'll be in Seoul in August and will be staying in Novotel Doksan, would like to get a Korean girl for a session / night. May I know where is the best place for it or the rate for outcall escort?
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Mongering Hotel
I am planning my trip for December, can to RTTF for most of the forum. Couple of questions:
Does the hotel matter for the hobby, location or girl friendliness?
Is there no escort agencies in Soul?
Thanks in advance & my report will follow.
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[QUOTE=Vompat]I am planning my trip for December, can to RTTF for most of the forum. Couple of questions:
Does the hotel matter for the hobby, location or girl friendliness?
Is there no escort agencies in Soul?
Thanks in advance & my report will follow.[/QUOTE]
You shouldn't have any trouble getting a girl into any of the hotels here (assuming she's not a walking freak show), including the 5 stars.
Obviously,the closer the hotel to the location from which you pull the provider, the less travel time and the more bang(time) for your buck. Since the most likely fishing spot for a foreigner is the Hill in Itaewon, that pretty much means the Grand Hyatt or The Silla (both 5 star), the D'Oro (above average business hotel) or the recently renewed IP Boutique Hotel (overpriced half-assed renovation). The Hamilton and the Capitol also are nearby, but both are dumps.
Even more obviously, a provider is going to be more well-disposed the better the hotel (and the more of a taste of the hotel amenities with which you provide her). Of course not all - make that not many - of the providers are really of the caliber to warrant such treatment, but there are notable exceptions.
There are both escort agencies and freelance escorts. Many advertised on Craigslist, but two of the outfits were busted by LEO, with data turned over! There also are some ads in the two english language dailies.
Weren't you supposed to show up here in the Spring (March?)?
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Yongsan RLD
Made it back to the Yongsan RLD today...twice!
Just after noon, I made a pass through the A and B rows. As before, A row girls were uninterested and the B row women were giddy with excitement for this bald white guy.
I chose a buxum late-30's lady from Ms Pak's place near the southeasternmost point of the RLD. To pinpoint the location, walk out Exit #3 from the Sinyongsan Station, do a 180 turn, walk about 30 yards and turn left into the little alley that leads into the RLD. The place is on your right about 20 yards into the zone.
This was a great 50K experience. She wasn't a stunner, but her body was very good, and the session began and ended with a joint shower which included plenty of fondling and licking on her part. It really felt more like an AMP experience without the massage, rather than a ST RLD experience. Multiple positions, some nice cuddling, and apt attention on her part. High value for the money.
The second experience was about 10 pm. Now this was a Friday night, so I figured I would be persona non grata in the zone, but I was pleasantly surprised. The A row girls gave me more attention than any of the mid-day trips I have made through there. I was actually propositioned by a few of them, albeit for 100K. I think it was early enough on a Friday night, and I was in a suit, so I was more appealing than I was in shorts in the noon day sun!
I chose a cute, also busty A/B girl named Sun Ja for my 15 minutes of fame--70K for this visit, after an initial 100K quote. The session was a pleasant surprise, with some playfulness, multiple positions, and an attempt at conversation between two people who spoke completely different languages. She even told me I was a nice guy at the end of the session.
I'd look up eather of them again if I have the opportunity.
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Murder at Cheongnyangi 588
Hey guys,
Just want to let you guys know that yesterday pass midnight (July 30, 3 AM), a girl that works at Cheongnyangni 588 has been murdered. She was stabbed in the abdomen (wound was 30cm big) and was found dead, wearing only a jacket. The police secured a weapon and a CCTV recording of a man coming out of the scene. It's not 100% sure whether he's the murderer, but so far he is the prime suspect and the police are going to trace him.
The girl, whose last name is Park, was 34 years old. 5 years ago, she got into the prostitution business briefly and left, but came back last year July to care for her two younger siblings and her mother who suffered a brain hemorrhage. She felt like she had to make money in order to take care of them.
I just briefly translated a news article on the story. Sorry if it came out pretty weird, but it's 4:30 AM right now and I'm pretty sleepy. It's a very tragic story, but to do the average people in Korea they wouldn't really care.
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He cockblocked you. Pure and simple. Can't trust any Korean dudes when it comes to their women. Have had exact same experience countless times.
[QUOTE=Ezinho]Yeah, they had masculine faces and were dresssed over the top IMHO (trying too hard to be women, I mean) but whatever. Maybe they were just manly-looking girls. As KW said, to each their own, just thought I would warn the board, that's all. Members on here can go to ABC and and decide for themselves.
Anyway, getting tired of the Hooker Hill scene (oldies, fatties and trannies, oh my!), I went to a booking club last night in Jongno, my first time. It is called Danco, between Jongno 3-ga station and Jonggak station. It used to be a dance club called Rehap, but now it's a booking club. I went there with a Korean friend. We paid 120,000 won for a bottle of liquor and we also got a platter of fruits with it, and some non-alcoholic drinks too. The waiters would literally drag girls to our table to sit and talk with us. Most of them were not too interested in us because a) my Korean language skills are wretched, and b) my Korean friend has the personality of a loaf of bread. There were some very beautiful women at this club, though. A couple of points I'd like to mention:
1. You need to speak good Korean to go to these places. Even basic conversation skills are better than nothing, but even then, will only get you so far.
2. It also helps to be well versed on Korean culture, such as Korean music and movie stars. This will help keep the conversation going, especially with the younger women (under 25 age group).
3. If the waiter drags a girl to your table that clearly doesn't want to be there, just tell her to leave. We made the mistake of pouring every girl he brought to our table a drink, so our liquor didn't last that long. Some girls are more eager than others to sit with you, so don't be afraid to turn girls down, the waiter will always bring more.
4. Even if the girl speaks English, they may not want to talk to you! For example, the waiter brought a girl to our table that was an English teacher, but she didn't want to talk to me; she didn't feel like speaking English!
5. Beware of cock blocking. My buddy had gone to the bathroom, and while he was gone the waiter brought another girl over. This was the best girl I met there, a little darker skin, curvy (S-line), we were talking about Western music; she actually seemed to like me and wasn't afraid of foreigners, like some of the others. Then my "friend" comes back to our table and starts to say how ugly this girls is, she's fat etc. WTF is this all about? I was so taken aback by this I didn't know how to respond. I told him I think she looks good and how westerners and asians like different kinds of women, but he didn't understand. She ended up going back to her table with her friends. I'm not sure if my buddy was cock blocking, or he's just socially retarded, but that was annoying as fuck!
So, after an hour and a half at Danco, we decided to bail and go to a sexy bar, called Las Vegas Sexy Bar, in the same area. We entered and were led up to the third floor. We bought a bucket of beers for 80,000 won and two girls came to sit with us. One was late 20's and looked like Lucy Liu, and the other one was younger with big tits. The way this place works is you just sit around drinking and talking/flirting with the girls, who are dressed in lingere or sexy clothes. The older one said she was a Chinese teacher by day, and worked at the bar at night. Big tits said she was working this job to save up to buy a house. They were pretty fun to hang out with and shoot the shit. They mentioned on the fourth floor, you can rent a private room with the girls, but they were quick to explain that it's not for sex.
Anyway, I got Big tits' number, with no cock blocking from my friend. She mentioned she had a French boyfrend who asked her to marry him, so I think that's a good sigh that she's not afraid of foreign dick. We're texting each other now, but I'm not holding my breathe that anything will come of this. I've learned to keep my expectations very low in this country![/QUOTE]
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Back to Yongsan
Had a very pleasant visit with Min Ah today in the back row (farthest from Yongsan Station) of the southwesternmost quadrant of the zone. She appears to be late 30's, busty, with a little tummy, but a very nice netherland. She was very willing to talk and take instruction as we went through the various stages. Began by bringing in a basin of water. I initially though she was going to wash my feet...but you all know what she washed. She then did a very nice bbbj and moved my hand to her quite moist busines zone for some teasing and warming up. She wriggled and gyrated to get me right where she wanted it.
We enjoyed 2 nice, covered positions before I succomed to the inevitable. She did a nice cowgirl with one leg propping herself up for some special stimulation. She thanked me for a very nice session when we finished. It was exactly what I hope for in a ST experience...even the extra 10 minutes!
I'm outta here for a while now. Hope to be back to ROK later this Fall. I hope my reports have been helpful.
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[QUOTE=Gern]Had a very pleasant visit with Min Ah today in the back row (farthest from Yongsan Station)
I'm outta here for a while now. Hope to be back to ROK later this Fall. I hope my reports have been helpful.[/QUOTE]
Nice work Gern; I think you've resurrected interest in the RLDs for some of us. enjoy your travels.
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Directions and suggestions for RLD
hi guys,
i am new in seoul. i am a (non-stuckup) gyopo.
can someone give me directions on how to get to each rld from the station?
or suggestions on where to go based on chance of service, service quality and distance from hongdae area (my location)?
i know that yongsan, mirai/gireum and cheongnyangni 588 being the main ones (correct?) and others in cheonho, sinyongsan, yeongdeungpo, samgakji, konkook uni, seolleung, gangnam, jongro, nowon.
thanks alot! i read quite a few posts here but the info is rep001tered over 500 pages and i am sure some of it is outdated.
i'd maybe like to catch up with a few of you guys for a outing too.
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[quote=intriguitee]hi guys,
i am new in seoul. i am a (non-stuckup) gyopo.
can someone give me directions on how to get to each rld from the station?
or suggestions on where to go based on chance of service, service quality and distance from hongdae area (my location)?
i know that yongsan, mirai/gireum and cheongnyangni 588 being the main ones (correct?) and others in cheonho, sinyongsan, yeongdeungpo, samgakji, konkook uni, seolleung, gangnam, jongro, nowon.
thanks alot! i read quite a few posts here but the info is rep001tered over 500 pages and i am sure some of it is outdated.
i'd maybe like to catch up with a few of you guys for a outing too.[/quote]just go to the reports listed in the "links to reports of distinction; " it will have all the info you need.
btw, all the places you listed do not have an rld; i. e. yongsan and shinyongsan are right next to each other, so you probably mean the same thing.
there are no rld's in seolleung, gangnam (i don't think there are any in jongro and nowon; these might be the karaoke places someone mentioned). you're probably referencing mp's and room salons (other places too, like barber-shop, room salons, etc.)
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Belle
Hi everybody,
Anyone visit Belle these days? How is the status there? Please share if you have fun there.
BTW, I would like to try "Kiss Room" near Gangnam area these days. I will write a report to you after visit there.
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CL Intel
Over the past couple months I have collected some Intel on a few women posting on CL. Although I don't have any personal experiences with them to report, it's time for me to share this Intel in case someone else wants to give them a try.
I'll post them one at a time starting with:
Dao Tomkratok.
I think she is Thai, has a place near Hamilton hotel or can come to your place. Incall KRW 150, 000 for 1. 5 hours, Outcall KRW 200,000 for 1. 5 hours. She stated "can do anything". Caution. May be post-op ladyboy IMO.
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[QUOTE=Kj Chan]BTW, I would like to try "Kiss Room" near Gangnam area these days. I will write a report to you after visit there.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't recommend the Kiss Rooms at all. I've checked out a couple and the girls are average and the only thing available is kissing (just in case some of you were wondering if more was available). I've heard from reading from another Korean site that it is possible, but I'd imagine your Korean skills will have to be fluent and will require multiple visits.
I've been to one near Jamsil and Seoul University. You pay and are lead to a tiny room with a tiny sofa/futon. The Seoul U location asked me what kind of girl I liked whereas the Jamsil location didn't. Girls were average and they just sit next to you and make out. Touching is allowed but can't go under the bra and panties. It was awkward trying to make out for an hour straight so I ended up trying to make small talk for about half of the time.
There are many hardcore hj/bj places all around the Gangnam area for 70-80k/hr which I think are fantastic as long as you're not looking for a 8-10 stunner to service you. Most of these places do not accept foreigners though, but I can ask around if there is enough interest. Many fetish clubs also offer bj as well now.
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CL Intel..next
Next is Milana (aka Tonya)
Russian, works in a hospital, lives in/near Gangnam.
$300 for 2 hours.
PM me for contact info.
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[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]: [/b] [blue]This report was deleted because it was an effort to [u]discourage members from posting information[/u]. If you have a concern about information posted by another member, then please contact them privately by PM. Please read the Forum's Posting Guidelines for further information. [/blue]
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CL Intel...next
Next is Seouls Private Gentlemans Club
[quote]OUR PHOTOS ARE OF THE ACTUAL GIRLS!
Not models or photos taken off some Asian website like MOST others do.
Our customers pure satisfaction is what we built our business on.
We promise to exceed your most demanding expectations.[/quote]PM me for contact info
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One Last Double Pole
Well the time has finally come to leave Korea so I decided to hit one more double pole for a nice massage. I went to the one near the US Embassy in Yongsan, half way between the Samgaki Station and the Girls University. Its the only one on that street so it isn't hard to spot.
The lovely lady wasn't a stunner (6/10) but had a nice body with padded see cups and a nice TIGHT round ass. I got the standard massage which I really enjoyed, especially when she mounted me and massaged my lower back, butt, and legs. The whole time she was basically dry pumping me from behind so hard could feel her soft mound through her panties.
When the massage service was over she turned me over and gave me an awesome BBBJ. I used one hand on her amazing ass and then found my way to her already wet panties. These were silky and thin and after a bit of rubbing she allowed my to work in a finger. She really responding to it and switched to a HJ for a while. After several minutes she went back and finished the amazing BBBJ with me finishing her off while she let me CIM, a first for a double pole in my experiences. This was a real 10 service and the mutual shooting was a great way to end my Korean mongering.
Off to Europe to try my hand at mongering on that side of the world but it was a great send off.
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[QUOTE=Coitus68][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]: [/b] [blue]This report was deleted because it was an effort to [u]discourage members from posting information[/u]. If you have a concern about information posted by another member, then please contact them privately by PM. Please read the Forum's Posting Guidelines for further information. [/blue][/QUOTE]
I'm all in favor of freedom of expression. At the same time, I think Coitus68's intentions were good. He basically aimed to alert people to the fact that LEO busted a couple of the services advertising on CL, and that THEREAFTER LEO APPARENTLY CONTINUED TO OPERATE THOSE SITES AS STINGS FOR A TIME.
I can't speak directly to the situation concerning some of the CL sites now being broadcast by DD, but really does anyone think its prudent in these circumstances to answer an ad that, like one highlighted by DD, requires you to provide by email your details, including email, phone, location, etc. to get a callback? I'd be worried about getting a knock on the door.
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[QUOTE=Gildo]I wouldn't recommend the Kiss Rooms at all. I've checked out a couple and the girls are average and the only thing available is kissing (just in case some of you were wondering if more was available). I've heard from reading from another Korean site that it is possible, but I'd imagine your Korean skills will have to be fluent and will require multiple visits.
I've been to one near Jamsil and Seoul University. You pay and are lead to a tiny room with a tiny sofa/futon. The Seoul U location asked me what kind of girl I liked whereas the Jamsil location didn't. Girls were average and they just sit next to you and make out. Touching is allowed but can't go under the bra and panties. It was awkward trying to make out for an hour straight so I ended up trying to make small talk for about half of the time.
There are many hardcore hj/bj places all around the Gangnam area for 70-80k/hr which I think are fantastic as long as you're not looking for a 8-10 stunner to service you. Most of these places do not accept foreigners though, but I can ask around if there is enough interest. Many fetish clubs also offer bj as well now.[/QUOTE]Your suggestion is quite valuable to me.
Thanks a lot!
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[QUOTE=Coitus68][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]: [/b] [blue]This report was deleted because it was an effort to [u]discourage members from posting information[/u]. [/blue][/QUOTE]
Must have missed that rule on the Rules page. Possibly because it's not there. Fine. Post away. Post as much "information" as you want. By all means, contact DD for "all the details". Please, also, followup with your own information, confirming if said provider is real or not.
[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]He basically aimed to alert people to the fact that LEO busted a couple of the services advertising on CL, and that THEREAFTER LEO APPARENTLY CONTINUED TO OPERATE THOSE SITES AS STINGS FOR A TIME.[/quote]
I know. I'm a complete asshole for trying to make people aware of the CL situation. I'm scum.
[quote]does anyone think its prudent in these circumstances to answer an ad that, like one highlighted by DD, requires you to provide by email your details, including email, phone, location, etc. to get a callback? I'd be worried about getting a knock on the door.[/QUOTE]
Caveat Emptor: Let the punter beware.
Think with the big head, not the little one.
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It is on the right side just past a walk-in gate of the Yongsan base. It was the standard 70K fare.
[QUOTE=Daegu Dawg]I thought I saw 2 last time I drove down that way (one on the left and another on the right) Which side of the street was it on (as you are going towards Seoul Station).
What was the cost?
Have a great time in Europe.
DAWG[/QUOTE]
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Hotels-Seoul
I am going over in June next year and want to stay in a good, cheap hotel in the Itaewon area. Is there such a place, maybe around $40-50 per night. I want to be close to the action.
Any replies very welcome.
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Min Hee now @ VIP?
While waiting to meet someone else the other night I happened to pass VIP, which was unusually open @ 7pm. Got a "pop" (i.e., the door opening and shout out) from a provider I had never seen there before but who seemed familiar. Then it dawned on me that I had seen her popping at Nymph when I was passing by to Peach Phuzz. Didn't ask her name, but confirmed that she had worked before at Nymph; I think she's the Min Hee previously reported on by Eizenho. She seems to have taken on the lease at VIP and is evidently anxious to make it work, so perhaps some good deals are to be had. She's quite cute.
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Good recon, KW
[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]While waiting to meet someone else the other night I happened to pass VIP, which was unusually open @ 7pm. Got a "pop" (i.e., the door opening and shout out) from a provider I had never seen there before but who seemed familiar. Then it dawned on me that I had seen her popping at Nymph when I was passing by to Peach Phuzz. Didn't ask her name, but confirmed that she had worked before at Nymph; I think she's the Min Hee previously reported on by Eizenho. She seems to have taken on the lease at VIP and is evidently anxious to make it work, so perhaps some good deals are to be had. She's quite cute.[/QUOTE]
It's funny you mention this, because I checked out VIP a couple mornings ago, around 6am, and there was a cute girl sleeping on the couch at the entrance, she looked familiar but I couldn't figure out where I had seen her before. There was another woman there who was awake, an older skinny one with a tattoo near her upper right shoulder. I didn't stick around so I'm not sure, but I think you might be right about it being Min Hee. I'll have to check it out again soon.
Also, someone asked about the Shamrock club that the top of the Hill about a month or so ago (I think?) and I checked it out on both Friday and Saturday nights. Saturday night, there was a 29 year old fattie working there, I talked to her for a bit but she was too fat for me (and I like "thicker" girls, so that tells you something!) so I left, but on Friday there was a good looking 27 year old working here, nice body and all. So, Shamrock may not be as bad at we think. Seems to be only open on the weekends, though.
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Help!
I have been a few weeks in Seoul. The hot weather makes me really horny. I think I'll soon need a way to find my balance. ;-)
Unfortunately, my travel budget has already become quite small and smaller. Does anyone know to get a cheaper way to get my satisfaction. (Please do not say now, I should do myselves). Can you tell something about the double barber poles? I'm staying near Shinlim.
Greetings,
Dan
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Need Help!
I have been a few weeks in Seoul. The hot weather makes me really horny. I think I'll soon need a way to find my balance.
Unfortunately, my travel budget has already become quite small and smaller. Does anyone know a cheaper way to get my satisfaction. (Please do not say now, I should do myselves). Can you tell something about the double barber poles? I'm staying near to Shinlim.
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itaewon
I know there is info throughout this place, but just hope someone can give me a quick answer.
But just curious what joints in Itaewon I should visit, for just some quick pure play, not a juicy club where I have to buy drinks etc.
And what is the ballpark figure on cost? And is there any suggestions on what to do and say for a first timer in the area.
Thanks guys.
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Near Best Western Premier
Hi
I'm new in town and I would like to try An-Ma place. It seems better than the "barber shop". What is the best place around Best Western Premier on Dohwa-dong, Mapo-ku?
Thanks for the help.
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More on VIP
[QUOTE=Ezinho]It's funny you mention this, because I checked out VIP a couple mornings ago, around 6am, and there was a cute girl sleeping on the couch at the entrance, she looked familiar but I couldn't figure out where I had seen her before. There was another woman there who was awake, an older skinny one with a tattoo near her upper right shoulder. I didn't stick around so I'm not sure, but I think you might be right about it being Min Hee. I'll have to check it out again soon.
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Happened to be in the 'ville around 8:30 Saturday morning - when there was a lot of excitement (and LEO in attendance) (more on that later) - and got a shout-out from VIP (LEO notwithstanding) while I was observing the LEO show. The proposition came from the big-titted girl who's been there for years; so maybe my previous hypothesis about Min-hee being the new queen bee there is wrong. But the other thing I noticed (without going in) is that some of other recently current usual denizens of Nymph also were there, including Nai-Young, who I think is the slightly older tattooed girl you mention. Didn't see Min-hee this time, but that may just have been because of the hour. Also have noticed the Nymph has been closed for a few days, so maybe the Nymph gang has been at VIP while Mamsan Yumi from Nymph was on vacation?
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K Warrior
Thanks a million for your kind advice.
Yes, you are right, I was going come in March, and now there is a discussion if we are coming now December or March (these are the dates for annual meetings we plan to come).
Anyway, when I get there, my report will follow.
[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]You shouldn't have any trouble getting a girl into any of the hotels here (assuming she's not a walking freak show), including the 5 stars.
Obviously, the closer the hotel to the location from which you pull the provider, the less travel time and the more bang(time) for your buck. Since the most likely fishing spot for a foreigner is the Hill in Itaewon, that pretty much means the Grand Hyatt or The Silla (both 5 star), the D'Oro (above average business hotel) or the recently renewed IP Boutique Hotel (overpriced half-assed renovation). The Hamilton and the Capitol also are nearby, but both are dumps.
Even more obviously, a provider is going to be more well-disposed the better the hotel (and the more of a taste of the hotel amenities with which you provide her). Of course not all. Make that not many. Of the providers are really of the caliber to warrant such treatment, but there are notable exceptions.
There are both escort agencies and freelance escorts. Many advertised on Craigslist, but two of the outfits were busted by LEO, with data turned over! There also are some ads in the two english language dailies.
Weren't you supposed to show up here in the Spring (March?)?[/QUOTE]
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Hmmmm... the plot thickens... see you next weekend for the next episode of "Love story on the hill", on KBS...
[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Happened to be in the 'ville around 8:30 Saturday morning - when there was a lot of excitement (and LEO in attendance) (more on that later) - and got a shout-out from VIP (LEO notwithstanding) while I was observing the LEO show. The proposition came from the big-titted girl who's been there for years; so maybe my previous hypothesis about Min-hee being the new queen bee there is wrong. But the other thing I noticed (without going in) is that some of other recently current usual denizens of Nymph also were there, including Nai-Young, who I think is the slightly older tattooed girl you mention. Didn't see Min-hee this time, but that may just have been because of the hour. Also have noticed the Nymph has been closed for a few days, so maybe the Nymph gang has been at VIP while Mamsan Yumi from Nymph was on vacation?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Darren 33]Hmmmm... the plot thickens... see you next weekend for the next episode of "Love story on the hill", on KBS...[/QUOTE]
funny as shit!
personally, any chance we can get a Yongsan RLD chronicles?
p.s. I drinkee too muchee...the behemoth Canadian school teachers at Rocky Mountain Tavern are starting to look good. No mo Sojo fo Carmex.
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Most places open ~8PM and remain open until 5/6AM the next morning. There are places that open earlier (generally of poorer quality) and later (closer to 9). Many places also stay open later in the morning the later in the week it is, with the latest closing times being on Saturday and Sunday mornings (~7/8). Many places close Sunday evenings early - 1/2.[/QUOTE]
Thanks. I finally made it down tonight. I spent about an hour wandering around. Must have done 3 cycles between 1AM and 2AM and explored a bit of the surrounding neighborhood looking to see if there was more I hadn't seen. I didn't really find anything of interest. I found the begging for drinks annoying. In fact I had closed a deal with a woman for 100 and when she proceeded to ask for a drink to put her in the mood I took the money from her hand and walked out. In one place there was a Yuna? who looked good until I saw the silicon rack and in the same establishment, another, named Soo, asked for 200K ST. Generally not impressed with what was on offer. I like SYTs and didn't find anything to my taste.
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[QUOTE=Pita123]I like SYTs and didn't find anything to my taste.[/QUOTE]
Su Jin @ ABC was the definition of SYT, but alas has gone back to school, I can think of only two qualifiers in the SYT class nowadays. One is MinHee, who seems to be at VIP these days, but may be still at Nymph; doesn't work every night, though, and I don't know her schedule. The other is the young new girl at Apple - although she looks to be a bit of a Dr. Doolittle project and you'd probably have to fend off the infamous Inna to get to her
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Su Jin @ ABC was the definition of SYT, but alas has gone back to school, I can think of only two qualifiers in the SYT class nowadays. One is MinHee, who seems to be at VIP these days, but may be still at Nymph; doesn't work every night, though, and I don't know her schedule. The other is the young new girl at Apple - although she looks to be a bit of a Dr. Doolittle project and you'd probably have to fend off the infamous Inna to get to her[/QUOTE]
Dr. Doolittle project? Huh? :)
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[QUOTE=Pita123]Dr. Doolittle project? Huh? :)[/QUOTE]
Pygmalion/My Fair Lady.
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Superman
Still open? Its been a while...
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[QUOTE=Carmex]
personally, any chance we can get a Yongsan RLD chronicles?
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I think that drama would have to be titled "The Haughty Princesses and the Hungry Ajummas". That's all I saw on a mid-day weekend walk through, inspired by Gern's recent reports. The A-Row princesses weren't going for a round-eye, and the B-Row ajummas (and other left-overs) all came across as scarily needy.
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Haru
Anyone know where Haru (formely of Belle) is working now? I was in there last weekend and they told me she was fired. Considering how, uhm, "liberal" she was, i guess they had to let her go.
Haven't had a half decent experience at Belle since she left. Ill follow Haru down to Pusan for a massage if i have to.
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Kiss club or room
Has anybody had any experience with Kiss clubs or Kiss rooms? Initially I though it was a place to meet and makeout but according to this article, there's more than kissing:
On the 20th the Hyehwa Police Station in Seoul arrested without detention 10 people, including 29-year old business owner Ms. Jang, on charges of having female employees don various uniforms and perform sexual acts.
According to police, Ms. Jang is accused of operating a "Kiss Room" 키스, a prostitution business, from the beginning of this month in Jongro-gu and Jung-gu and abetting prostitution by charging men W70,000 per hour for sexual acts.
Investigators found that the so-called "fetish" business included "theme rooms", made to look like classrooms, where the female employees donned uniforms chosen by customers, who would be caned by the women during the sex acts.
The business would only take customers via telephone appointment, and the women employees were recruited via part-time job sites on the internet, police said.
Police said, "this and other perverted prostitution businesses have been rapidly increasing recently, so we plan to strengthen enforcement efforts."
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Kiss club bust
Here is the video of the bust.
[url]http://yonhapnews.hvod.nefficient.co.kr/yna/200911/MYH20091120009700038_WMV500Kbps.wmv[/url]
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[QUOTE=Will042]Has anybody had any experience with Kiss clubs or Kiss rooms? Initially I though it was a place to meet and makeout but according to this article, there's more than kissing:
On the 20th the Hyehwa Police Station in Seoul arrested without detention 10 people, including 29-year old business owner Ms. Jang, on charges of having female employees don various uniforms and perform sexual acts.
According to police, Ms. Jang is accused of operating a "Kiss Room" 키스, a prostitution business, from the beginning of this month in Jongro-gu and Jung-gu and abetting prostitution by charging men W70,000 per hour for sexual acts.
Investigators found that the so-called "fetish" business included "theme rooms", made to look like classrooms, where the female employees donned uniforms chosen by customers, who would be caned by the women during the sex acts.
The business would only take customers via telephone appointment, and the women employees were recruited via part-time job sites on the internet, police said.
Police said, "this and other perverted prostitution businesses have been rapidly increasing recently, so we plan to strengthen enforcement efforts."[/QUOTE]
This is old news, actually happened last November.
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[QUOTE=Will042]Has anybody had any experience with Kiss clubs or Kiss rooms? Initially I though it was a place to meet and makeout but according to this article, there's more than kissing:[/QUOTE]
Search the forum. These types of places have been discussed before.
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Kissing room
[QUOTE=Coitus68]Search the forum. These types of places have been discussed before.[/QUOTE]What happens in kissing room really depends on how often you go to same girl and how comfortable she is with you.
If you're fugly or make her nervous, you won't get very far.
Just my 2 cents.
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[QUOTE=Darknight]If you're fugly or make her nervous, you won't get very far.[/QUOTE]
That's assuming you even get through the door. Non-Koreans who are not at least semi-conversational in Korean most likely won't.
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[QUOTE=Quinella]Anyone know where Haru (formely of Belle) is working now? I was in there last weekend and they told me she was fired. Considering how, uhm, "liberal" she was, i guess they had to let her go.
Haven't had a half decent experience at Belle since she left. Ill follow Haru down to Pusan for a massage if i have to.[/QUOTE]
I'll be in Kangnam in a few days. Any advice on who to ask for at Belle, Angel, or any other HJ places?
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[QUOTE=Quinella]Anyone know where Haru (formely of Belle) is working now? I was in there last weekend and they told me she was fired. Considering how, uhm, "liberal" she was, i guess they had to let her go.
Haven't had a half decent experience at Belle since she left. Ill follow Haru down to Pusan for a massage if i have to.[/QUOTE]Can you describe what "liberal" means?
She is too good or too bad? just interesting.
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Yuna
[QUOTE=Pita123]In one place there was a Yuna? who looked good until I saw the silicon rack.[/QUOTE]
I met a Yuna last night, she works in the middle bar near the top of the Hill (Tiffany Bar?). She seems very out of place on the Hill, she looks like a Korean Barbie doll. Chatted with her for a while, she said she used to work at a Room Salon in Gangnam, she definitely looks the type. She came off as nice enough but I didn't feel like spending a lot of money. But it's nice to have at least one good looking girl on the Hill.
I checked out some other bars and the quality was really low, even lower than usual. IMHO, of course.
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[QUOTE=Ezinho]I met a Yuna last night, she works in the middle bar near the top of the Hill (Tiffany Bar?). She seems very out of place on the Hill, she looks like a Korean Barbie doll. Chatted with her for a while, she said she used to work at a Room Salon in Gangnam, she definitely looks the type. She came off as nice enough but I didn't feel like spending a lot of money. But it's nice to have at least one good looking girl on the Hill.
I checked out some other bars and the quality was really low, even lower than usual. IMHO, of course.[/QUOTE]
Ah, Yuna. I remember when she first appeared in the 'ville about 5-6 years ago. She had just returned from a lengthy sojourn in Japan and joined Young-Eun's stable at ING (then "Starbutts"). She was smoking hot, very well made-up and decked out in leather hot pants and thigh high boots; the only other girl I've seen in Itaewon capable of pulling that off is Soo-Ae. Only downside was that she was used to getting pampered and spoiled by the Japanese and was very expensive and more of an opti-fuck than the real deal; good blow job, but her front parlour was so small and tight that I could only get about halfway in. Like a lot of the providers on the Hill, she then went through a rough patch, which in her case seemed to last for quite awile, during which she looked increasingly stressed-out and skanky, more like a crack***** way past her sell-by date, then disappeared for awhile. When she returned, it was to one of the more squalid shacks across the street from her current venue. I happened to see her last night, too, when she was buying a plate of toppokki at the stand at the corner of Itaewon High Street and the main street on the hill. She smiled and waved (in a friendly, not a soliciting way). She looks much better than she has in the recent past. The tall, lithe body is still there, but she still looks a little washed out- maybe she didn't have on her war paint?
Also confirmed that Min-hee is indeed now ensconced at VIP, where she has added the Greek isles to her itinerary of pleasure destinations to supplement her already awesome appetite for prolonged, rough, sloppy, DT face-fucking, on which she really seems to get off, judging by the dirty talk she gasps out when she comes up for air.
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Ahh Yuna...
[quote=kimchi warrior]ah, yuna. i remember when she first appeared...
during which she looked increasingly way past her sell-by date, then disappeared for awhile. [/quote]
yea, i remember yuna quite well. still have her number in my phone actually. remember when she quite the hill also. she came over to the house a few times after.
regardless of the the looks kw, she was still a great fuck. yes, a little older, but she could still get down. good to know she is back again. might just have to travel down that road again, but then again, it is never the same as it once was. :(.
been seeing a different girl lately, but why do they only last about two to three months with me? guess i get bored easy. great thing about mongering, no hard feelings and move on to the next. yipee!!!!!
always the next ms. korea out there.
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Kissing room
[QUOTE=Darknight]What happens in kissing room really depends on how often you go to same girl and how comfortable she is with you.
If you're fugly or make her nervous, you won't get very far.
Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]At the one near my place, you make out, touch her exposed tits, and then jerk yourself off while she watches. she said that was the limit because it's not a "sex room."
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[QUOTE=Maniac77]At the one near my place, you make out, touch her exposed tits, and then jerk yourself off while she watches. she said that was the limit because it's not a "sex room."[/QUOTE]I think it depends more on the girl than on the place. Most girls allow you to suck on their tits, but certainly not all. If you get a girl who happens to get all hot and heavy after just kissing and sucking her tits then you can probably go further like eating her out. It happened to me a few times. And her pussy aint the typical skanky hooker pussy either. It's relatively virginal and well worth the 40K lol. Of course i usually tip if i get this far as she went well above and beyond her call of duty.
Obviously you have to be able to read the girl and the cues to know the limit.
If you enjoy foreplay and are good at it, then the Kissing room will definitely satisfy...if you get the right girl.
Problem is...what to do about your own unsatisfied rock hard woody after you the leave the place? As you said you could just whack off right then and there but i find that kind of embarrassing.
I had one girl just hold my dick while i did all work of moving in and out with my hips. So technically she wasn't giving me a handjob. She was just holding my dick in place. To make a long story short, I blew my load onto her stomach although it did take some effort on my part.
Or after finishing you could go straight to a RLD like 588 and get the wham bam thank you ma'am treatment. That's another 70K. Put the two together: 40k for 35 minutes of foreplay and 70k for short straight sex, it comes to 110K. Not too bad when you consider it fulfills most guys' twin needs of gfe and straight sex.
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[QUOTE=Maniac77]At the one near my place, you make out, touch her exposed tits, and then jerk yourself off while she watches. she said that was the limit because it's not a "sex room."[/QUOTE]
So I hope she paid you and not vv
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[QUOTE=Ilovechicas]Thanks for the descriptive post. Is there any kissing room though that's a possibility or accessible for those who don't speak Korean?[/QUOTE]As far as I know, no. If don't look Korean (ie white or black), you probably have zero chance even if you do speak korean.
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[QUOTE=Darknight]As far as I know, no. If don't look Korean (ie white or black), you probably have zero chance even if you do speak korean.[/QUOTE]
If it's not zero chance, it's pretty damn close. Especially since a lot of these places now require you to call ahead in order to get by the security screening (that and the CCTV keeps LEO out, or at least outside long enough to give notice on a raid).
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Foreigner freindly Kiss Room
[QUOTE=Darknight]As far as I know, no. If don't look Korean (ie white or black), you probably have zero chance even if you do speak korean.[/QUOTE]Call Myth Busters. Hehe
I know one Kissing Room that I went to before near Severance Hosp area in Gangnam. Hard to give directions. I have the address on my car GPS and the phone number. PM me for that info.
As recall, the girl I had was young and sweet. Very soft lips and nice breast. Above the waist it was "anything goes" for both of us but can only rub her pussy thru thick panties and stockings (she was still wet though). I did get my hands under her panties to feel her soft ass has she was on me CW with her tits all in my face **. She was not allowed to touch me below the waist so we shared a 1 hour "skin-ship" for 70KRW. It was a great GFE but I will not repeat because I'm not into self-hand-jobs. IMHO. If I was a regular customer I might be able to get more. But in the long run it will be to expensive.
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[QUOTE=Daegu Dawg]Call Myth Busters. Hehe
I know one Kissing Room that I went to before near Severance Hosp area in Gangnam. Hard to give directions. I have the address on my car GPS and the phone number. PM me for that info.
As recall, the girl I had was young and sweet. Very soft lips and nice breast. Above the waist it was "anything goes" for both of us but can only rub her pussy thru thick panties and stockings (she was still wet though). I did get my hands under her panties to feel her soft ass has she was on me CW with her tits all in my face **. She was not allowed to touch me below the waist so we shared a 1 hour "skin-ship" for 70KRW. It was a great GFE but I will not repeat because I'm not into self-hand-jobs. IMHO. If I was a regular customer I might be able to get more. But in the long run it will be to expensive.[/QUOTE]Right, if you are gonna pay 70k, you might as well go to a RLD even though it is rather quick and all business compared to a Kissing Room, but still only 70k. Seems to me Cheonho is the best deal for RLDs. You get shower and usually the choice of condom or no condom although u might be asked to pull out early.
But if you still want younger and less hooker atmosphere and with more GFE, you go to hand job place with college age girls, which is also around 70K. You take a shower first. You can generally kiss the girl and a little foreplay then she gives u happy ending. I think time limit is 40 min. You don't have to bother with making a reservation like at a kissing room.
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[QUOTE=Quinella]Anyone know where Haru (formely of Belle) is working now? I was in there last weekend and they told me she was fired. Considering how, uhm, "liberal" she was, i guess they had to let her go.
Haven't had a half decent experience at Belle since she left. Ill follow Haru down to Pusan for a massage if i have to.[/QUOTE]Actually Haru is famous there. She looks so pretty and sexy when she BBBJ for guests. Her tongue touch and sound really makes man go crazy. I sometimes can not control and so just CIM, but she just smile and not angry. Anyone has special experiences with Haru before? I really want to know where she goes too.
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Happy Days
I'm new to the hill in Itaewon, but today I walked by on my way home and I saw a woman with huge tits at the bar called Happy Days at the top of the hill. Does anyone have any info on her? I wanna go back for her, those tits were amazingly big for a Korean girl.
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The cockblock continues
Noticed a lot of Koreans and kyopos on this site now. Which always tends to amaze me since they have direct access to various P4P and other resources. That being said, I'm sorry to say but I finally validated what I expected about my only Korean friend (of 8 years). As indicated on previous posts, I was pretty sure he was cockblockng me and snagging my local pickups. I brought my western buddy out last night who spoke Korean to verify. Lo and behold when I would go to the bathroom he would work on the girl I was with in Korean, telling her I was player, etc. etc. then scoop her digits. He would then bow out early and then text her to offer her and her friend a ride home (with his Korean friend waiting in the car which he had set up previously). My western buddy saw the text on her phone. Always heard about this situation but never believed he was capable of it, after everything I have done for him (including save his relationship with his fiancé). Unbelievable, but yet expected. Not angry or even surprised anymore.
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Yongsan
F.Y.I., I just got news that Yongsan RLD will close out service starting in October.
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Please Guys
Guys,
Please this is forum and not a complaint center. What is up with you guys complaining about cock blocking? Have you heard of the term all is fair in love and war?
Most of the girls you guys hit on are players or working girls. Do you guys really think they give a crap whether a guy is a player or not. If your losing a girl because your friend is talking crap about while your in the bathroom, sorry it really means you got no game.
Also if you feel like a minority in Korea well life is tough its Asia and its not the US.
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Huge tits
[QUOTE=Le Lion]I'm new to the hill in Itaewon, but today I walked by on my way home and I saw a woman with huge tits at the bar called Happy Days at the top of the hill. Does anyone have any info on her? I wanna go back for her, those tits were amazingly big for a Korean girl.[/QUOTE]
I think that might be Cherry? She's been mentioned on here a few times before, but not lately. You're right, those tits are huge, I talked with her once briefly and tried to negotiate a deal with her but we couldn't come to an agreement. Try her out and let us know how she is.
One more thing if you like huge tits, check out Ji Hye at VIP. She's been called a barracuda on here, but I thought she was nice enough. Only downside is she said she's 36 years old! But she doesn't look it IMHO.
[QUOTE=Xzephyr]F.Y.I., I just got news that Yongsan RLD will close out service starting in October.[/QUOTE]
Maybe because of the G-20 summit coming to Seoul in November?
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[QUOTE=Xzephyr]F.Y.I., I just got news that Yongsan RLD will close out service starting in October.[/QUOTE]
They were to be gone by the end of 2007 so we'll see how firm this deadline turns out to be.
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[QUOTE=Bam Man]Guys,
Please this is forum and not a complaint center. What is up with you guys complaining about cock blocking? Have you heard of the term all is fair in love and war?
Most of the girls you guys hit on are players or working girls. Do you guys really think they give a crap whether a guy is a player or not. If your losing a girl because your friend is talking crap about while your in the bathroom, sorry it really means you got no game.
Also if you feel like a minority in Korea well life is tough its Asia and its not the US.[/QUOTE]
Sorry but I disagree. This site is about sex and sharing experiences including how to get it. For those new or visiting Korea, it is important to have information about how the locals react to your attempts to get busy. The girls in question are locals (not SPs) and may have sex with either Koreans or non-Koreans. However, many Korean men do not like western men with their women, and even if they have no interest in her, will prevent you from closing the deal. Has nothing to do with your game. As for P4P, other than Itaewon, I have been cockblocked at many, many SP locations (Mia, Yongsan, Cheonyqngi, Anmas, etc.). If a older woman is running the service, usually no problem, but if an older Korean male is, forget about it. Moreover, I have heard Korean male customers complain to owners that a foreigner is "tainting their women" in many, many P4P locations I have frequented. I actually helped Korean friends (including the guy in previous posts) land western women back home and here. Double standard in play. Regardless, information is key, hence the popularity of this site.
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Agreed
[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Sorry but I disagree. This site is about sex and sharing experiences including how to get it. For those new or visiting Korea, it is important to have information about how the locals react to your attempts to get busy. The girls in question are locals (not SPs) and may have sex with either Koreans or non-Koreans. However, many Korean men do not like western men with their women, and even if they have no interest in her, will prevent you from closing the deal. Has nothing to do with your game. As for P4P, other than Itaewon, I have been cockblocked at many, many SP locations (Mia, Yongsan, Cheonyqngi, Anmas, etc.). If a older woman is running the service, usually no problem, but if an older Korean male is, forget about it. Moreover, I have heard Korean male customers complain to owners that a foreigner is "tainting their women" in many, many P4P locations I have frequented. I actually helped Korean friends (including the guy in previous posts) land western women back home and here. Double standard in play. Regardless, information is key, hence the popularity of this site.[/QUOTE]Though I always go solo for any mongering activities I agree.complaining and comparing notes on things is part of the forum.
Also for what it's worth. Korea's Korea and not representative of Asia in my opinion. While some may dwell on it more than others like. Racism and xenophobia are part of what foreigners deal with in Korea and it enters into parts of life we wish it wouldn't including mongering (whether the girls a player or not doesn't mean it shouldn't be discussed or even complained about).
Jack Rabbit's points are specific and not a general condemnation of "Korean's". Well within bounds in my opinion.
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[QUOTE=Coitus68]Search the forum. These types of places have been discussed before.[/QUOTE]Not really, there's nothing on the forum about “theme rooms”, made to look like classrooms, where the female employees donned uniforms chosen by customers, who would be caned by the women during the sex acts.
The only place I knew about was Zest. They allowed you to pick a uniform but no "canning" and no theme rooms.
Anybody know of such places now?
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[QUOTE=Darknight]But if you still want younger and less hooker atmosphere and with more GFE, you go to hand job place with college age girls, which is also around 70K. You take a shower first. You can generally kiss the girl and a little foreplay then she gives u happy ending. I think time limit is 40 min. You don't have to bother with making a reservation like at a kissing room.[/QUOTE]Any good recommendations for a place like this?
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[QUOTE=Will042]Not really, there's nothing on the forum about “theme rooms”, made to look like classrooms, where the female employees donned uniforms chosen by customers, who would be caned by the women during the sex acts.[/quote]
That was not your question.
You asked "Has anybody had any experience with Kiss clubs or Kiss rooms", so when I said to search the forums because they have been discussed before, I was correct. Kiss rooms HAVE been discussed before.
If you wanted to know about "theme" rooms, that is a separate and completely different question.
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[QUOTE=Le Lion]I'm new to the hill in Itaewon, but today I walked by on my way home and I saw a woman with huge tits at the bar called Happy Days at the top of the hill. Does anyone have any info on her? I wanna go back for her, those tits were amazingly big for a Korean girl.[/QUOTE]Yes, thats Cherry. She does have awesome tits, and being a tit man I've had her a few times. Not a great fuck but overall a very nice girl and well worth the experience. Plus she can usually be had for 100 all included, but she'll start by asking for 200. She has an apartment in back of the building which is fairly nice, better than fucking in the bar.
Good luck
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[QUOTE=Coitus68]That was not your question.
You asked "Has anybody had any experience with Kiss clubs or Kiss rooms", so when I said to search the forums because they have been discussed before, I was correct. Kiss rooms HAVE been discussed before.
If you wanted to know about "theme" rooms, that is a separate and completely different question.[/QUOTE]I didn't know there was a difference. The article said it was a Kiss Room.
So do you know of any "theme" rooms?
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Noticed a lot of Koreans and kyopos on this site now. Which always tends to amaze me since they have direct access to various P4P and other resources. That being said, I'm sorry to say but I finally validated what I expected about my only Korean friend (of 8 years). As indicated on previous posts, I was pretty sure he was cockblockng me and snagging my local pickups. I brought my western buddy out last night who spoke Korean to verify. Lo and behold when I would go to the bathroom he would work on the girl I was with in Korean, telling her I was player, etc. Etc. Then scoop her digits. He would then bow out early and then text her to offer her and her friend a ride home (with his Korean friend waiting in the car which he had set up previously). My western buddy saw the text on her phone. Always heard about this situation but never believed he was capable of it, after everything I have done for him (including save his relationship with his fiancé). Unbelievable, but yet expected. Not angry or even surprised anymore.[/QUOTE]Your problem is having a Korean male friend. What's wrong with you? I knew about all this the first month I was in the country.
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[QUOTE=Quinella]Your problem is having a Korean male friend. What's wrong with you? I knew about all this the first month I was in the country.[/QUOTE]
You know what you do now? You get that girl together to meet you with the guy's fiance. Then she can show the messages to the fiance. Turnabout is fair play.
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[QUOTE=Quinella]Your problem is having a Korean male friend.[/QUOTE]
Nothing wrong with having a Korean male friend. They are simply not with me when I'm out on the town getting digits. My current K-friend is trying to get back with his ex-, but doesn't know yet that we are already dating. She doesn't want him back, and I stepped up to the plate. I don't consider that cockblocking, though. I don't feel bad for him, though, since most of his female friends are smokin', and he has his pick.
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Candy Bar in Itaewon
This is not 'a' candy bar, but 'the' Candy Bar. I have known all waitresses there last 6 months. I suggest everyone BE AWARE OF Ashley who looks the best in the bar. She is a major ROB and always lies about herself. However, she is not smart enough to hide her critical info on her blogs. She might ask you to add her on Facebook, etc. Once you get to know her more and more, she will totally flip you over. I urge everyone not to have anything to do with her. If you want to know the real inside of her, you are welcome to send me a PM.
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Candy bar
[QUOTE=Ny Mania]This is not 'a' candy bar, but 'the' Candy Bar. I have known all waitresses there last 6 months. I suggest everyone BE AWARE OF Ashley who looks the best in the bar. She is a major ROB and always lies about herself. However, she is not smart enough to hide her critical info on her blogs. She might ask you to add her on Facebook, etc. Once you get to know her more and more, she will totally flip you over. I urge everyone not to have anything to do with her. If you want to know the real inside of her, you are welcome to send me a PM.[/QUOTE]I almost went in there the other day mid afternoon. Great looking girl with short hair and a nice body? Is that the Ashley your talking about? Sweet to look at I must say.
I'm curious about a little more info if it's not too much trouble.
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Took Minhee home the other night. As always, she is super-fun. Not just great sex, but real fun conversationalist. Not a clockwatcher and likes to chill. Rough sex, lots of spit, kissing, and she asked me to finish in that pretty little mouth of hers.
As for the anti-kyopo and k-friend talk. It's not always true about the cock-blocking. Lots of Kyopo dudes on here sharing their secrets with us weigukin.
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Fun In Itaewon
Hey, Gentlemen! I'm a first timer here on the boards. I've been reading reports and there's a lot of great information here.
I visited the place called Happy Days and had a session with Cherry. Contrary to what another guy said, I thought she gave great service. I paid the full price, so I didn't ruin the mood (I was also drunk). However, she was very friendly, clean and gives a great BJ. Also, even though she a little bigger than some girls I've seen on the Hill, she can move. I had fun and would like to see her again.
Anyway, I plan to go back to Itaewon and go wild, but Iwanted your opinion. Do you all have a top 5 list? I've read about Soo-Ae. Is there anyone else that really stands out to you?
Appreciate your input!
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TV Show
[QUOTE=Looking Inrok]You know what you do now? You get that girl together to meet you with the guy's fiance. Then she can show the messages to the fiance. Turnabout is fair play.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha!
Yea, watched that on a Korean TV show last time I was in Sabang, P.I. Korean TV is a lot better with the English subtitles. It was funny as hell to watch the guy squirm in front of the fiance. The title of the show was "getting even with bad boys" or something like that. The guy in question was super macho when he was out with his friends, but up against his fiance...melted like butter. Kinda unfair to be ambushed like that though. They (the TV people) totally set him up with hidden cameras and all that.
Recently in Osan (Songtan), lots of Pinay down that way looking to get down after hours (4-5am). Just get the digits and hook up later after work. They would rather get half the barfine then let it go to Mama. Some Russians also. Songtan is not what it once was but still fun if you know where to look.
The hill has been too quite lately and too many WG's up there know my name. :(
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[QUOTE=Dissolved Boy]
Anyway, I plan to go back to Itaewon and go wild, but Iwanted your opinion. Do you all have a top 5 list? I've read about Soo-Ae. Is there anyone else that really stands out to you?
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Surprise, surprise - Soo-Ae is my ATF; but I daresay I'm hers too, so YMMV.
Other current standouts in the top 5, imo, are
Cindy, also at Happy Days, slender, small-breasted but a real trooper. I shagged her for two hours straight - non-stop, except for BBBJ breaks, she came at least 4 times, but she never complained and never quit.
Yuna, at the joint just up the street next door to Happy Days. Been awhile, but very hot.
Min-Hee @ VIP; the real PSE deal
Nana @ Moulin Rouge. Lips, above and below, to die for.
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Top Picks
[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]
Yuna, at the joint just up the street next door to Happy Days. Been awhile, but very hot.
Min-Hee @ VIP; the real PSE deal[/QUOTE]About Yuna, if I was looking at Happy Days, would this place be on the left or right? I think I saw a really beautiful woman with a nice ass on the left. I have to be careful though. If Cherry remembers me, I don't want her to be angry. Do women get feelings like that, considering their profession? Has one of your girls ever caught you going into another place?
Also, what does PSE mean? Sorry, I'm not up on the lingo yet.
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Yongsan A Row
After reading about a lot of regulars' failed attempts, I didn't think I'd land one, but I did. It was early in the night when I went to the left side of the Yongsan RLD (if you were walking from the station). One the right side, after a few windows, an older station beckoned me in. Shocked, I got closer and saw a younger, more attractice woman sitting down. The older one asked for 70, 000 for ST. I asked if I could get with the younger one, and she said yes.
We went into her room and got undressed. The girl, Jinju (I believe), didn't have the biggest boobs, but they were cute and a decent handful. She also had a solid body; no flab. She was a little quiet, but talked to me more when we realized I could speak a little Korean.
She cleaned me off and gave me a BBBJ. I must say even though she didn't get everything down, she wasn't hesistant and had a warm mouth. I was hard in no time. Then, we slipped on the condom. We first did missionary, but I had to be careful not to hurt her. Then, we got on top, which was more fun for both of us. She rode for a while and then I started to pound from below. I finally lost it there.
Even though this girl isn't as cute as most of the other A Row girls, all in all, it was a good experience, for sure. I've gone back a couple of times since, but of course the rest of the girls in those rows don't look my way. Either that or they laugh.
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Soo-Ae is my ATF
Cindy.
Yuna.
Min-Hee.
Nana.[/QUOTE]
Ah KW, you do have your favorites :) indeed!.
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[QUOTE=Dissolved Boy]After reading about a lot of regulars' failed attempts, I didn't think I'd land one, but I did. It was early in the night when I went to the left side of the Yongsan RLD (if you were walking from the station). One the right side, after a few windows, an older station beckoned me in.[/QUOTE]One the right side, after a few windows, an older WOMAN beckoned me in.
Sorry! I made a little mistake, but I hope you all got the idea.
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I need advice. (Urgent)
Hey guys,
I was in Korea for about a month and at the last week of my trip at KangBook, I got in this nasty bar fight with some Koreans who were staring at us for speaking English.
They assaulted me first by pushing me and fight went on fire between their group and my group.
We all got taken to police station and got interrogated.
All done, no settlement and ETC. Now, I'm back to state.
I got a call from friend in Korea, that one of the Korean man's jaw is shattered and all his jaw ligament has been cut as well as his nose is broken. They are asking for 5k cash to just settle when their hospital fee will be coming out between 20k-30k.
They are threatening us that they will sue us if we don't settle.
I just told my friend to tell those guys that our bill will come out 20-30k easy if we start go to hospital in state.
I have a two concern.
One is that what can happen to my friend living in Korea who has Korean citizenship? He was mainly trying to stop the fight and that is in police report.
Two is what happens if they really sue us?
We had 3 guys and they had 4 guys. But 2 of them ran away when police arrived. Even when we told the police that they had 2 more guys, they would not belive us and not even put that on report. We also have one Korean citizenship girl who is a "victim" of this incident, who got cut by their broken bottle and had 5 stitches on her arm.
If you know any international law or even a law in Korea, help will be greatly appreciated. I might have to talk to them very soon.
Please help.
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[QUOTE=Dissolved Boy]About Yuna, if I was looking at Happy Days, would this place be on the left or right? I think I saw a really beautiful woman with a nice ass on the left. I have to be careful though. If Cherry remembers me, I don't want her to be angry. Do women get feelings like that, considering their profession? Has one of your girls ever caught you going into another place?
Also, what does PSE mean? Sorry, I'm not up on the lingo yet.[/QUOTE]
On the right. I don't think there's anything on the immdediate left, except the little alley to the Happy Days happy hunting ground, then there's ABC w/ the troll mamasan.
PSE=porn star experience; there's a relatively full list of acronmyms on the site under the abbreviations heading in the menu header.
It very rarely happens that a provider is going to get seriously bent out of shape if you go with someone else, even in the same shop; after all it's just business -- though there are exceptions ime/o they are extremely rare and far between. Of course, even commercially, a (stupid or inexperienced) provider might try to take it out of your wallet later on one way or another. One solution is to do a double w/ her or, at least, come back to her the next time. In the end, though, these are just situations that you have to finesse on your own given the personalities involved.
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[QUOTE=Dooly]I got in this nasty bar fight with some Koreans [/QUOTE]
Stop right there. Who started it, how many of them there were, and whatever else you think justifies why you got in the fight are immaterial and irrelevant.
It comes down to who got injured the worst, making the other party the guilty party. Doesn't matter who started it or why--Korea doesn't have a self-defense law--the "law" is the most injured is the least guilty.
If the other guy is claiming such huge injuries, you are guilty. Period. Your friends' minor injuries mean nothing because you did MORE damage to the other group of guys, and your friends will not be compensated for their minor injuries. You are the guilty party in the eyes of Korean law. As such, if you don't settle up, they WILL sue you and they WILL win.
If you are not in Korea, you're safe. They won't collect from someone internationally, but your friends in Korea will not be so lucky. They will pay either through settlement or through lawsuit. Your name will mostly likely also be in the lawsuit, but they won't be able to collect from you unless you are stupid enough to return to Korea.
A story similar to yours from about 6 years back, 2 Canadians out and about in Shinchon got jumped by three or four Koreans guys, but the Canadians defended themselves well and shattered one guy's jaw. The Canadians were jailed for assault and held until they paid the settlement (ended up being in the realm of $25,000). Once the money was paid, they were immediately deported.
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[QUOTE=Coitus68]Stop right there. Who started it, how many of them there were, and whatever else you think justifies why you got in the fight are immaterial and irrelevant.
It comes down to who got injured the worst, making the other party the guilty party. Doesn't matter who started it or why--Korea doesn't have a self-defense law--the "law" is the most injured is the least guilty.
If the other guy is claiming such huge injuries, you are guilty. Period. Your friends' minor injuries mean nothing because you did MORE damage to the other group of guys, and your friends will not be compensated for their minor injuries. You are the guilty party in the eyes of Korean law. As such, if you don't settle up, they WILL sue you and they WILL win.
If you are not in Korea, you're safe. They won't collect from someone internationally, but your friends in Korea will not be so lucky. They will pay either through settlement or through lawsuit. Your name will mostly likely also be in the lawsuit, but they won't be able to collect from you unless you are stupid enough to return to Korea.
A story similar to yours from about 6 years back, 2 Canadians out and about in Shinchon got jumped by three or four Koreans guys, but the Canadians defended themselves well and shattered one guy's jaw. The Canadians were jailed for assault and held until they paid the settlement (ended up being in the realm of $25,000). Once the money was paid, they were immediately deported.[/QUOTE]It's true, I also have a Korean friend who spent 3 months in jail after being jumped by a guy in Hongdae because he was talking to his girlfriend. My friend broke the guy's arm when he wrestled him down. So the rule is 1. Never get in to fights in Korea 2. If someone wants to fight you, try to get away from there asap.
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Bar fighting in Korea- Epic Fail!
[QUOTE=Coitus68]
A story similar to yours from about 6 years back, 2 Canadians out and about in Shinchon got jumped by three or four Koreans guys, but the Canadians defended themselves well and shattered one guy's jaw. The Canadians were jailed for assault and held until they paid the settlement (ended up being in the realm of $25,000). Once the money was paid, they were immediately deported.[/QUOTE]
Happens all the time. Really what your friend needs to be concerned about is his ability to "lets make a deal".
True story involving my subordinates in Tonducheon: Fighting amongst themselves 2 vs. 2. Crowd (the whole bar about 30 people) had gathered outside the bar to watch, alley was crowed, impassably. Foreign man (white) with Korean wife walking through alley pushed their way through the crowd and through the fight. While doing so, Korean wife was knocked down by flying combatant after he had received a punch to the face.
Couple showed up in my office Monday morning demanding 10 million won from each of the participants; Total 40 million won even though her injury was a bruised shoulder from the fall. After one month of negotiation between me and the family, they settled for 3 million won total in installments over 3 months.
Coitus is correct, whoever has the most injury gets the compensation. Courts take a long time, so tell your friend to pay up. But don't take the first offer. Its kinda like buying a blanket! They say 200...you say 100...you settle on 150 etc...etc...
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[QUOTE=Dooly]Hey guys,
They assaulted me first by pushing me and fight went on fire between their group and my group.
We all got taken to police station and got interrogated.
All done, no settlement and ETC. Now, I'm back to state.
They are threatening us that they will sue us if we don't settle.
Two is what happens if they really sue us?
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The fact that the police conducted an interrogation/investigation and did not charge you with a criminal act certainly bodes well for you and your group but civil suits burden of proof are lower than criminal cases. As to the "what happens if they really sue us" question, unless you settle a binary act will occur you will win and they will lose or they will win and you will lose (and have to pay), what else could happen? Surely your friends can search the web to find lawyers for themselves in Korea.
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ABC Troll!!
So, that was the name of that place! I was walking out of the cheap hotel on top of the Hill, and the beautiful woman I was talking about came out of ABC like a trap door spider and literally dragged me into that place.
The mamasan was SO aggressive, but because I was the first one to get with the girl, she lowered the price for me. As soon as I took out my card, she swiped it quick. I actually had second thoughts because I had to get back to Busan, where I live, at a certain time I changed my mind. However, she refused to refund it. Can you believe that? Anyway, the girl WAS BEAUTIFUL and her pussy felt great, so I wasn't too upset about it. I may even go back there when I'm actually SURE about what I'm want. I'll just try to appease the troll better.
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Sorry but I disagree. This site is about sex and sharing experiences including how to get it. For those new or visiting Korea, it is important to have information about how the locals react to your attempts to get busy. The girls in question are locals (not SPs) and may have sex with either Koreans or non-Koreans. However, many Korean men do not like western men with their women, and even if they have no interest in her, will prevent you from closing the deal. Has nothing to do with your game. As for P4P, other than Itaewon, I have been cockblocked at many, many SP locations (Mia, Yongsan, Cheonyqngi, Anmas, etc.). If a older woman is running the service, usually no problem, but if an older Korean male is, forget about it. Moreover, I have heard Korean male customers complain to owners that a foreigner is "tainting their women" in many, many P4P locations I have frequented. I actually helped Korean friends (including the guy in previous posts) land western women back home and here. Double standard in play. Regardless, information is key, hence the popularity of this site.[/QUOTE]
I sympathize with you Jack....Its the case of all third world and developed Asian countries having what i call "immaturity" & "Jealously"...I'm from Asia myself (India) and i totally abhor the double speak that Asian's put up on everything.
When we go to western countries we speak of equal rights and equal pay...Many Asian's have become millionaires and billionaires and many have married white girls, f**cked many white girls...but when it comes to the other way around...especially i have seen this with Indians, Arabs, Korean's, Chinese and Japanese.... (Philippines and Thai seems to have no issues) the male ego and double speak start to come up.
I have personally taken part in conversation when these topic's come up and always end up losing as majority just cannot wrap around their tiny brains away from nationalism and sentiments.
In China last month there was such a hue and cry when a Chinese women married a black guy and posted pictures of their living online...check out [url]www.chinasmack.com[/url]
It really is sad, I don't know what else to say...People in Asia not only needs to grow economically but needs to mature in their heads. Anyways, not all Asian men are like that but majority that are willing to fight and make a negative comment are..
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Location and Number of Kiss Room near Jamsil/Songpa Station
Hi,
I'm new on the board. In my twenties. I just came from Canada and will be living in Seoul for awhile. I'm Korean but was born in Canada so my Korean is really novice.
I've been trying to experience what Korea has to offer in terms of women. Barbershops and Anma's seem to be easy to find. I'm finding it really frustrating finding Kiss Rooms and Dae Dal Bangs. Doesn't anyone have an complete listing on Google Map? I know people give directions but sometimes I end up walking for like hours looking for some places.
I've tried to use Naver and Daum to try to find them but they always need that Korean ID number. I did manage to find one Kiss Room near Jamsil/Songpa Station. The building does not have any signs outside indicating it is a Kiss bang.
Address:
??? 295-11? 402?
Translation: Seoul, Songpa-gu, SeongChon-Dong, Building's name is?, Room 402
Phone:
02-423-5812
010-2460-5812
(*You may need to practice your Korean. I don't even know if they would take a non-Korean)
Website:
[url]http://cafe.naver.com/thekiss5812[/url]
(*I've attached the map from the website below)
Hope this helps.
I'd like to ask for help finding a Dae Dal Bang (University Girls Hand Job place, etc). PM me. Maybe I can help you with your Korean in return. Honestly most places ask the same questions over and over again. I just taught a white friend of mine how to order food over the phone and he's a pro now.
Thanks
TP
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Yeongdeungpo RLD - Honey
went to yeongdeungpo rld, thanks to great directions (and maps) from users.
i walked out of yeongdeungpo main station. it is large station and part of a huge skyscraper. when you come out of the station you will cross the street and walk and take your next left. you'll see even from the intersection the pink lights. i walked the whole street. i honestly thought it was going to be longer and bigger but i guess i just pumped up the idea in my mind.
i guess because i look korea i got a lot of attention. it is big ego boost to walk and have all the girls call you "oppa".
after walking the whole street, i honestly thought the prettiest was the first girl on the right. she quoted me 210, 000 for the hour. i didn't negotiate as i'm not that skilled in korean.
i was kind of surprised as she dropped a foot in height as she stepped off her super high heels and lost 1-2 cups sizes from the bra. she was still pretty perfect. kind of felt i was having sex with a middle school girl.
great attitude and smiley.
would recommend to anyone.
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Any experience with "massage" outcall services?
I'm a newcomer to the forum, having lurked for some time and being very appreciative of the information here...
I'll be in Seoul for three days with a tight schedule (first time in South Korea) and am wondering if anyone here has had experiences with outcall "massage" services which advertise online. Places like koreanaroma.com or bobogirls.net all seem to be suggesting FS (going by the rate charged). Did anyone try them out? Quality of the girls? Any upsell involved? What about Su escort service?
I'll be staying at the Lotte Hotel downtown - any other reliable options nearby?
Any experiences are highly appreciated - PM me if you don't want to share in public!
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Noticed a lot of Koreans and kyopos on this site now. Which always tends to amaze me since they have direct access to various P4P and other resources. That being said, I'm sorry to say but I finally validated what I expected about my only Korean friend (of 8 years). As indicated on previous posts, I was pretty sure he was cockblockng me and snagging my local pickups. I brought my western buddy out last night who spoke Korean to verify. Lo and behold when I would go to the bathroom he would work on the girl I was with in Korean, telling her I was player, etc. etc. then scoop her digits. He would then bow out early and then text her to offer her and her friend a ride home (with his Korean friend waiting in the car which he had set up previously). My western buddy saw the text on her phone. Always heard about this situation but never believed he was capable of it, after everything I have done for him (including save his relationship with his fiancé). Unbelievable, but yet expected. Not angry or even surprised anymore.[/QUOTE]That sucks dude. Me personally as a kyopo, I would NEVER pull that shit with any of my friends. I'm not really sure why you are friends with this guy. He's a scumbag.
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[QUOTE=Starchild2012](Philippines and Thai seems to have no issues) [/QUOTE]
Never been to the Philippines, so I can't speak to that end, but Thai men ABSOLUTELY have issues with farang men and "their" women. Thai women who go with farang men and Thai women who go only with Thai men are treated and seen quite differently by not only the Thai men, but also the women.
Learn a little Thai and you would be very surprised with the amount of hate and venom they hide in the "land of smiles". Smile to your face as long as you are a walking wallet to them, but a knife in the back (or more likely a blindside suckerpunch and 6-on-1 beating) the second you are not.
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[quote=turtle power]i'm korean but was born in canada [/quote]
off-topic, but this is a pet peeve of mine.
your family roots are korean, but you are not. you are canadian.
my family came over as immigrants not long ago, but i would never introduce myself or identify myself as romanian or french. my family came from romania and france, but i was born in canada. i'm canadian. so are you.
and now back to our regularly scheduled p4p program...
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Possible massage ladies
[QUOTE=Nc Guy 68]I'm a newcomer to the forum, having lurked for some time and being very appreciative of the information here...
I'll be in Seoul for three days with a tight schedule (first time in South Korea) and am wondering if anyone here has had experiences with outcall "massage" services which advertise online. Places like koreanaroma.com or bobogirls.net all seem to be suggesting FS (going by the rate charged). Did anyone try them out? Quality of the girls? Any upsell involved? What about Su escort service?
I'll be staying at the Lotte Hotel downtown - any other reliable options nearby?
Any experiences are highly appreciated - PM me if you don't want to share in public![/QUOTE]There are some agencies and freelances on CL. The easy part is to tell you what I know about the freelances. There appear to be two: One lady reports as Nina or as massage for "outcall" only. I thought I had an appointment with her the other night but she canceled on the first appointment and never showed for the second. Her rate was 150 for sensual massage only. The other freelance aways has a pic of her back and advertises 36C. Her rate via an e-mai lwas a little high at 250.
Goof luck.
Frank M
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Kiss Room
[QUOTE=Turtle Power]Hi,
I'm new on the board. In my twenties. I just came from Canada and will be living in Seoul for awhile. I'm Korean but was born in Canada so my Korean is really novice.
I've been trying to experience what Korea has to offer in terms of women. Barbershops and Anma's seem to be easy to find. I'm finding it really frustrating finding Kiss Rooms and Dae Dal Bangs. Doesn't anyone have an complete listing on Google Map? I know people give directions but sometimes I end up walking for like hours looking for some places.
I've tried to use Naver and Daum to try to find them but they always need that Korean ID number. I did manage to find one Kiss Room near Jamsil/Songpa Station. The building does not have any signs outside indicating it is a Kiss bang.
Address:
??? 295-11? 402?
Translation: Seoul, Songpa-gu, SeongChon-Dong, Building's name is?, Room 402
Phone:
02-423-5812
010-2460-5812
(*You may need to practice your Korean. I don't even know if they would take a non-Korean)
Website:
[url]http://cafe.naver.com/thekiss5812[/url]
(*I've attached the map from the website below)
Hope this helps.
I'd like to ask for help finding a Dae Dal Bang (University Girls Hand Job place, etc). PM me. Maybe I can help you with your Korean in return. Honestly most places ask the same questions over and over again. I just taught a white friend of mine how to order food over the phone and he's a pro now.
Thanks
TP[/QUOTE]I recently went to Sinchon (around Yonsei University) and found that there is a street among the regular bar streets that has 3 Kiss Rooms pretty much next to each other. Since it's an area with alot of foreigner they might be foreigner friendly. To get there get out from exit 1 and get to the back of Hyundai Department Store, walk past the park in the direction of Yonsei (on the main bar street) and then turn left at the first side street.
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Greetings Turtle Power, Welcome to Seoul!
Wouldn't it be sweet if there was a Google maps for mongers? Unfortunately, I think the foreign contingent here is just too small, turns over too fast, and is hindered by the language barrier to such an extent that nothing gets off the ground.
I'm sort of curious why you're keen on the kiss rooms and dae dal bangs as they leave you with little more than blue balls and a big head full of desire once your time is up. Seems to me like the anma's are ultimately a better value and more bang for your buck.
[QUOTE=Turtle Power]Anma's seem to be easy to find. I'm finding it really frustrating finding Kiss Rooms and Dae Dal Bangs. Doesn't anyone have an complete listing on Google Map?
010-2460-5812
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Hello
Hi Seoul Friends;
I want to ask about Itaewon , is it the best and the safest place for foreigners and which Anma is upscale and foreigner-friendly?
Thanks a lot.
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Why on Kiss/Dae Dal Bangs? And awesome Sports Massage near Seoul University Station
Thanks Seoulstice,
I think as soon as I get an iPhone in Korea, I'll start creating a custom Google Map. I sold my iPhone before I came to Korea and I'm just using a normal flip phone these days. I don't know how people do it. I feel so lost and unproductive without a smartphone. But I think the only redeeming quality is watching TV on my phone (love the Starcraft games).
To answer your question, I think the lure of finding a Kiss Bang or Dae Dal Bang is that it is a completely unique experience. There would be no way that kind of business would pop up in the public view in North America. Also I guess YMMV, but I really find going to Anma's, Barbershops, RLD's, etc sometimes leaving you empty(and not just your wallet). I guess I'd rather have a GFE even if it meant having blue balls. I think because it is something new and rare from where I am from that I find it attractive in pursuing to experience.
For example, (from my limited time in Korea) I actually prefer the ice-cream from North America. I don't know if it is just my taste buds tricking me but I think it was sweeter back home and they definitely gave you much more per serving. But that doesn't stop me from eating 500Won Melon Bars. How the fuck can something so tasty cost less than 50 cents!
Also found an awesome Sports Massage place near Seoul University subway station. This place won't give you a really erotic experience but it was probably the best thorough body massage I ever had (Canada and Korea). From head to toe. Take exit #8 at the Seoul University Subway Station. Walk straight heading East for about 100m. It's be on your left with a pink/purple/yellow sign heading to the basement. But the easiest way to identify it is that it is directly across from an Outback Steak house. 80, 000 won and she worked on my body HARD for 1. 5Hrs. Gave a happy ending with lots of oil and hot towels and the lady was a slim in her late 30's.
I would not highly recommend any of the BBRs near Nakseongdae Station. I went to four of them and massage was pretty poor (compared to the one near Seoul Univ. Station) and women were a bit older than I would have liked. Everyone was very nice and pleasant though.
[QUOTE=Seoulstice]Greetings Turtle Power, Welcome to Seoul!
Wouldn't it be sweet if there was a Google maps for mongers? Unfortunately, I think the foreign contingent here is just too small, turns over too fast, and is hindered by the language barrier to such an extent that nothing gets off the ground.
I'm sort of curious why you're keen on the kiss rooms and dae dal bangs as they leave you with little more than blue balls and a big head full of desire once your time is up. Seems to me like the anma's are ultimately a better value and more bang for your buck.[/QUOTE]
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About belle and candy bar
Hi everyone,
I am new here and read the topic but I couldnt find the location of Belle massage how can I go there from Coex center?
Also I heard Candy bar in Iteawon. If I go there as I first time can I get a lady for 1 hour and how can it be? I dont know what kind of place is that and what is their process? I dont want to buy a lots of drink to lady so can you explain me their condutions? are there a backroom or we ask her to out and she suggest us hotel somethin or what? and write me the price and what kind of place is there more detailed?
I have very limited time in Seoul, actually 1,5 day so if you answer my question it will be very useful
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More info on kiss bang please
After reading the post on Kiss Bangs I searched the internet and found some info. KissWho is a franchise and the website had a service page and it offers
Middle time 35 minutes 40.000
Full time one hour 100.000
kiss+naked breast+leg touch+hip+finish.
The next line was in bold red font and it said:
Oral service is offered in legal room at extra cost to the customer.
Has anyone actually tried a kiss bang?
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Hera Anma Near Seolleung Station
Tried looking for an Kiss Bang yesterday.
Failed miserably. I think everyone was still on holiday.
Saw an anma near Seoulleung Station (near Yeoksam and Samseong Station).
Take the number 4 exit out of Seoulleung Station. Then the the first left. You will see a great 5 story building in like a Greek pillar style. Looked pretty fancy and high class. They have mobile pink light sign on the main road at night.
I think I've only been to Anma's that are small time because it was the most professional shit I've ever seen. I was a bit embarrassed since there were so many young men assistants and I would be their age.
Walked in and they assumed I was Korean. The language just passed right over my head. Got waved into a waiting room and served a cold drink. Then (who I assume) is the female boss in business wear sits down next to me with her notepad looking to take my order. There was a menu on the table which I assumed was for drinks at first but now realize it may have been for something more. I told her I wasn't good at Korean. She was still pleasant and tried to speak in really simple English terms (tall or short, Sexy or Pretty, etc).
Everything was like clockwork with guys at each corner post. Got ushered into a room with a girl. She had a perfect body and was nice but it just didn't get me going.
Typical Anma experience. The wet rubber shower massage board. Sex on a nice comfy bed. No kissing which I always find a bit odd since they had their tongue in my ass a second ago. Phone call to the room to indicate time was up. 180, 000won. Chose not to stay afterwards.
Got ushered out and a professional farewell by the main boss. Actually with her cream business suit, I'd would have loved to have spent the hour with her instead
I walked by Belle, Cool, and Superman Anma. Wow, you really cannot miss it. It is a huge blacked out building with the blue/red Superman hero "S" icon on the front like a Universal Studios ride. I know it was talked about briefly on the forum but would you recommend the Superman Anma? Thanks
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Jack Rabbit
Concur with the cock-blocking phenom that is occurring by korean guys. Went to one of my fav girls on the hill and this korean dude tried to follow me in. He yelled at the girl why you take white guy and not him. He tried to push his way in through the door. Girl slammed it on him and locked the door. Saw him finally leave after pounding on the door on the cctv.
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[QUOTE=Turtle Power]Typical Anma experience. The wet rubber shower massage board. Sex on a nice comfy bed. No kissing which I always find a bit odd since they had their tongue in my ass a second ago. Phone call to the room to indicate time was up. 180, 000won. Chose not to stay afterwards.
Got ushered out and a professional farewell by the main boss. Actually with her cream business suit, I'd would have loved to have spent the hour with her instead
I know it was talked about briefly on the forum but would you recommend the Superman Anma? Thanks[/QUOTE]LOL Assholes aside, kissing is [i]the most intimate act[/i] there is. It's a line of intimacy most providers simply won't cross. Can you blame them? I can't. Now that I think about it, however, it does make the kiss rooms somehow very abnormal. I guess it just goes to show how the man with the business plan can always find a provider if the price is right.
Sadly, there's just too few anma fans here to answer your question.
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[QUOTE=Seoulstice]
Sadly, there's just too few anma fans here to answer your question.[/QUOTE]
Dunno; I think the players are here, but most of them are forced to sit the bench and can't get in that game because the vast majority of anmas won't let foreigners play. Even at some of the few that will, it's like Korean pro sports teams - only one or two round eyes are allowed along with their local hosts.
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Dunno; I think the players are here, but most of them are forced to sit the bench and can't get in that game because the vast majority of anmas won't let foreigners play. Even at some of the few that will, it's like Korean pro sports teams - only one or two round eyes are allowed along with their local hosts.[/QUOTE]Ah yes, the given we like to call cockblocking. That's a factor, too, but a lesser one in my opinion. Go back through these Seoul threads and most guys read like Cheap Charlies who don't buy unless they're offered pops for 100K or less.
I think to the vast majority balk at the 200K+/- going rate for foreigners at anmas. Little do they know what a deal that actually is. Then again, it's all relative, yes? I just spent a week punting in Macau where the average for FS starts at 1200HK$ and goes up rather rapidly. But I digress.
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Could you send me some more info on that location?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Daegu Dawg]Next is Seouls Private Gentlemans Club
PM me for contact info[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Seoulstice]Ah yes, the given we like to call cockblocking. That's a factor, too, but a lesser one in my opinion. Go back through these Seoul threads and most guys read like Cheap Charlies who don't buy unless they're offered pops for 100K or less.
I think to the vast majority balk at the 200K+/- going rate for foreigners at anmas. Little do they know what a deal that actually is. Then again, it's all relative, yes? I just spent a week punting in Macau where the average for FS starts at 1200HK$ and goes up rather rapidly. But I digress.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't call it cock-blocking, but it certainly stems from the same source. And you know I agree with you about the plethora of Cheap Charlies in these parts; but I still think the problem is not the small number of full retail punters, but the dearth of anmas that will service them. I wrote a couple of long posts some time ago about the anma cluster in Gangnam, and in the course of my research i only found two that reliably would admit an unaccompanied foreigner, even one who can muddle along in Korean. That, and the inconvenience of having to go south of the river is what put me off those venues - not to mention my having the good fortune to find some real GFE/PSE gems closer to home. It would be nice to have them in better appointed settings, but forced a choice between the decor and the food, I'll take to meal. ;)
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[QUOTE=Seoulstice]LOL Assholes aside, kissing is [i]the most intimate act[/i] there is. It's a line of intimacy most providers simply won't cross. Can you blame them? I can't. Now that I think about it, however, it does make the kiss rooms somehow very abnormal. I guess it just goes to show how the man with the business plan can always find a provider if the price is right.
Sadly, there's just too few anma fans here to answer your question.[/QUOTE]Please, explain Amna, I have been reading Soul forum for a while since my first time in Korea will be in December.
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[QUOTE=Vompat]Please, explain Amna, I have been reading Soul forum for a while since my first time in Korea will be in December.[/QUOTE]Anma = sauna/massage parlor, i.e. a "soapy"
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New in Seoul for pleasure
Hey I read some pages of your reviews and are awasom, but still have some doubts on how to to the negotiation, and get some girl, can someone tell me some advices on how to do it, and if Sunday and Monday are open. Please PMs me for silly but usefull advices for me. Places, prices and what to get for the fee.
Thanks you so much, I will appreciate your answer.
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Visiting Korea for pleasure
Hi,
Can someone give me some advices on where to go, how to get and how much to pay for a real experience in korea, I read about kiss room and bae dal bang, but can someopne give me more hints on how to proceed if I don't speak korean, just can read korean. I appreciate your answer, as is my dream to experience this.
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Thanks K Warrior
[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]anma = sauna/massage parlor, i.e. a "soapy"[/QUOTE]Are there many in Soul? Do they offer full service?
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[QUOTE=Vompat]Are there many in Soul? Do they offer full service?[/QUOTE]
There are dozens and offer full service but, as noted in other posts, very,very few are foreigner friendly. Check my two part report in the ROD section.
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Recent Re-Sightings and New Talent on the Hill
Happened to be transiting the Hill for recon last Friday while enroute elsewhere. Saw a provider who looked familiar @ Number 1 at the top of the Hill. turned out to be Hyun-Shil, formerly of J-Bar across the street. I haven't seen her around in a long time, although she claims to have been ensconced at No. 1 since May. Anyway, sh'es lost about 10kg and is looking quite good - not that she looked bad when a bit zaftig - quite slim and perky. Stopped for a quick drink to catch up but didn't even sample the starters, as I didn't want to get seriously delayed, even though she playfully had the little trooper out of his barracks before the drinks were done. Hyun-shil is about 5'4", now less than 50kg, A+ cups and very playful - much more personable than when I first met her (when she was a rank beginner). No. 1 also is a well above average venue in terms of size, layout, furnishings, etc. and so more comfortable than most of the bangholes on the Hill.
On the way down the Hill a few minutes later, I was lassooed by Yu-Ri @ ABC who not so subtly suggested a double by pointing out the "new face" now @ ABC. This must be the girl that Dissolved Boy spoke of recently. I wouldn't describe her as especially beautiful, but she is very attractive and, as I discovered later, was clearly something of a hard body in the not so distant past. She's about 5'7", ~ 54-55kg, B-cups and has a very nice figure. She also has a huge dragon tattoo on her back, what looks like a C-section scar on her lower belly, speaks perfect English, recently moved back to Korea from Texas and is 32 - all of which suggests that there is an interesting backstory. More to the point, she really likes to fuck - as I discovered when I returned a couple days later and we had at it for 4 hours. No backdoor, but everything else, including BBFS, was on the menu and she was a non-stop, no quit, no spit wonder. Very highly recommended. Goes by the name Mimi.
The troll @ABC also has let a small two room apartment in the alley across the way, so the actual deed venue is a big improvement over ABC itself.
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This article states Blow Jobs can be bought for 40-60 thousand won.
Is there any truth to this?
Man I would love a BJ bang.
[url]http://thethreewisemonkeys.com/2010/09/27/sex-and-security-in-south-korea/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Taloha]Concur with the cock-blocking phenom that is occurring by korean guys. Went to one of my fav girls on the hill and this korean dude tried to follow me in. He yelled at the girl why you take white guy and not him. He tried to push his way in through the door. Girl slammed it on him and locked the door. Saw him finally leave after pounding on the door on the cctv.[/QUOTE]
Adgeshis are getting more brave. Not surprised they are encroaching on our turf. Nowhere is sacred.
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Adgeshis are getting more brave. Not surprised they are encroaching on our turf. Nowhere is sacred.[/QUOTE]
I think they are just getting more drunk and/or crazier. I recently stopped in just to say hello to a fav on a Sunday morning around 7 when I knew she would be getting ready to lock up. We were sitting, drinking coffee and talking when the door (unlocked) was yanked open. In strutfully strides an older, skinny, mustachioed ajosshi with a big conquer the world grin on his face - until he saw me giving him the 1,000 yard stare. That wiped the smile off his face and shut him right down, and he slunk out, shoulders drooping as the fav sweetly told him we were old friends catching up. If it were New York, I'd have said he had on a nice White Horse buzz, but I think he was just a bag of fries short of a Happy Meal.
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[QUOTE=Americanthief]This article states Blow Jobs can be bought for 40-60 thousand won.
Is there any truth to this?
Man I would love a BJ bang.
[url]http://thethreewisemonkeys.com/2010/09/27/sex-and-security-in-south-korea/[/url][/QUOTE]
As one of the commenters on the original story noted, the author seems to have his tin hat strapped on too tightly. I would add that he's also apparently got it wired to his old metal cavity fillings. This is the work of a complete wannabe ignoramus trying to look and sound connected and infra-hip. (I actually know both some of the real bodyguards in Korea, having been introduced to them by former SAS friends in the business and having on-going relationships with them because they do protection detail for people I know who have real reason to engage them for their overseas guests, and the chumps who make believe they are doing the same kind of work for local corporate BSDs) who make believe they need the same service; the latter - both employers and "muscle' are jokes.) Aside from that, the info re provider rates is all significantly understated; the data on "karaoke" rooms is at least in the ballpark, but it's another sign of this guy's ignorance that he calls them that instead of "room salon."
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Heading to Seoul - Marriott Renaissance
Any FS Anma's that except foreigners around the hotel. Love the Korean parlors in the states, want to try the real thing.
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Anma-Yeoksamdong GS tower
Can anybody give me exact location or address of a good quality anma near GS tower, Yeoksam area? I can not read Korean and I don't understand so it is difficult to ask some one regarding that. I want a good quality service irrespective of What I spend.
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Can anybody give me exact location or address of a good quality anma near GS tower, Yeoksam area? I can not read Korean and I dont understand so it is difficult to ask some one regarding that. I want a good quality service irrespective of what I spend.
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Visit to Cool
I wanted to visit Cool as there seems to be a lot of discussion about it on the thread. Wondered if members considered it a benchmark for its kind of establishment.
Is it because it is the best out there or it is it just easy to find?
The best directions that I followed and I believe would be easiest are these.
-Go to Yangjae Station
-Walk straight out of Exit 3.
-Take the first right at the next major intersection. At this intersection you will see a large DELL sign, a Burger King, and a Starbucks.
-After you've taken the right, one of the first shops will be a clothing store called Bang Bang.
-Cool will be across the street with a vertical sign. You will have to take a few steps into the parking garage and you'll see the entrance to the building on your left. It is in the basement.
If you browse through the "Reports of Distinction" you can find photos and additional directions.
70,000 won. Shower. Then went into a small room with a nice bed. Girl was a knockout. Easy 9/10.
Really soft massage. She took off she bra and dress. Just in her panties. Lots of licking of the nipples and smiles. Oil HJ. Lots of cuddling and ego boosting conversation. Maybe a kiss or two on the lips. I had a feeling that DFK was not on the table. I was able to lick all over her body. No BBBJ but I never indicated. She seemed to have her own routine. My favorite was when she was straddling facing me or in CG whiling working the cock. Excellent attitude.
Asked how to make a reservation. They gave me a business card. It was cleverly labeled as a LED tech company. Classy.
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its easy
[QUOTE=Virginiabb]Can anybody give me exact location or address of a good quality anma near GS tower, Yeoksam area? I can not read Korean and I dont understand so it is difficult to ask some one regarding that. I want a good quality service irrespective of what I spend.[/QUOTE]Just walk along the sidestreets parallel to the main road and look for hotel type looking buildings with NO WINDOWS and HUGE RED NEON SIGNS. If you type 'anma sign' into google you'll be able to see what you're looking for.
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Whooaa!!
I was on one of my regular patrols the other evening and upon passing Tiger Tavern looked in for old times' sake. It's been at least ten years since I've been in there. Now that I think about it, TT was perhaps the first, but certainly among the first of the Hill bars that I ever visited. Before that my mongering in Seoul had been in the more risque room salons and a few anmas. Back then, there were two girlfriends from Boryung who worked there; both about 5'5"; one very pretty with long styled black hair and unusually white skin; and the other with hair dyed a reddish blondish brown, very attractive but with lots of pancake to hide some leftover adolescent skin problems and really perfect firm natural D+ breasts with slightly upturned aerolas and nipples. The black-haired one whom I went for first got mad at me for fooling around with other girls at other clubs and before long was gone. The other stayed around for about another year, and I had some great times with her before she too left for Japan and some sort of schooling.
Anyway, when I looked in the other day all I saw at first were what appeared to be the same breasts hemmed in by the bustiere part of the the girl's dress and obviously yearning for a prince (or at least a frog with pretensions) to set them free. Voila, in I walked and met Hae-Sue.
Hae-Sue is ~5'6"-5'7", maybe weighs as much as 49kg and, besides the most magnificent set of breasts I have seen in the 'ville in ten years -- wait for it --- easily the best body that I've ever seen on the Hill: in addition to the breasts, a narrow waist (rivaling Soo-Ae's), perfectly proportioned to slightly flaring hips surmounting the best tight bubble butt I've ever seen on a Korean girl, long shapely legs, soft all-over golden tanned skin stretched over a very well-toned body. She's not beautiful, and her prettiness owes more to her skills with a make-up brush than her natural features; but she's easy on the eyes, and who cares anyway when you can't take your eyes off her body. Especially those breasts which, on closer visual and physical inspection were so simultaneously firm and pillowy soft that the girl is genetically-gifted or her surgeon is - I really couldn't tell; if they are after-market they're the best I've ever felt or run the little trooper in the valley of.
As soon as we settled on a couch with our first round of drinks she was surveying the bulge in my trousers and when she noticed that she had gotten my attention moved quickly to free willie while I liberated her breasts - all while we settled that we indeed were going to go through with a full prison break. That consisted of brief additional mutual foreplay, followed by a very skillful BJ from her, followed by straight and canine, with her final HJ and my release all over those magnificent breasts.
One minor retrospective disappointment was that the BJ was covered, but to tell you the truth I didn't even notice at the beginning because she was so skillful at starting it on with her mouth and the condom was one of the larger sizes of the super thin Japanese brands that it didn't become apparent until she had to manually intervene to get the still a bit too small wrapper down the shaft. And after that the thinness of the raincoat, her skill with her mouth and tongue and the vision of her beautiful ass up in the air behind her while she worked the mojo just made me forget it.
A more serious reservation is her pricing/timing policy. All of the above took place in 30 minutes. That's about a third of the time I usually like to spend. The duration wasn't a problem, though, as I was simply on a hair trigger with lust for this girl. However, it turned out that 30 minutes according to her rule is 10 minutes overtime. She didn't make any fuss about this and, even during the session, she didn't clumsily try to rush things along, physically or verbally, like some of the lesser talent does - although, truth be told, she didn't have to as I was, as said earlier, in an unusual headlong sprint to the finish anyway. But that 30 minutes was it for W150K. Which in itself isn't bad considering that the usual offer from the best providers on the Hill for an hour+ of first-rate service is 300. On the other hand, I'm a little put out that she didn't state the time limits at the git-go; I thought I was getting a bargain @ 150/hour - the hour being in my experience the std. timing on the Hill unless one affirmatively negotiates for ST. My bad, too, I guess, since as a veteran I should know better than not to question a deal that seems to be too good - another backhanded compliment to the capacity of Hae-Sue's charms to hot-wire the little head and short-wire the big one, I guess.
I'd definitely repeat (as long as the ATF doesn't get too pissed off), but would make sure to clarify the terms of engagement in the future.
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VIP Coex
Does anybody have experiences at VIP near COEX where the girls actually remove some of their clothing, or at very least take their tops down? What is the norm at this place?
I am considering a return trip to VIP this week. I went there during my last trip to Seoul a few months ago and thoroughly enjoyed it. The massage is much better than what you usually get from these places, the girls are prettier and friendlier than the ones at Belle, the place seems much cleaner, and the HJ was very good. However, I was a little disappointed that my girl didn't take any clothes off at all. She remained fully clothed during the entire massage and HJ ending. I love Korean women so seeing some bare Korean skin is part of the attraction of these places for me.
I only have limited spare time on this trip, so it's either VIP or a return to Belle for me.
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Grand Hyatt Seoul
Hi,
I will be for first time in Seoul at the grand Hyatt and I am wondering, do they have speciall massage at the hotel, or where can I get some girls at, or close to the hotel and what do they charge about.
Thank you for your informations.
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[QUOTE=Alfifi]Hi,
I will be for first time in Seoul at the grand Hyatt and I am wondering, do they have speciall massage at the hotel, or where can I get some girls at, or close to the hotel and what do they charge about.
Thank you for your informations.[/QUOTE]Just returned from Seoul and stayed in Grand Hyatt
- girl friendly
- massage and suana in the hotel but no room service thou
- asked the conciege and was informed that room service available but no "Special"
- there is this JJMahoney in the basement, alot of chics especially and weekend, try your luck there
- or you can get a set of Korean newspapers and fnd few nos you can call but girl very normal
Good luck my friend and update or pm if you find a ctc.
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Hey
Where are the white women at?
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Cleopatra and Belle
I was in the Sinchon area and the thought of spending a few minutes with a naked young Korean girl sounded appealing, so I decided to try Cleopatra. It was easy to find thanks to the directions on this forum. Unfortunately, as soon as I got to the bottom of the stairs, I was met by a young guy who had his arms crossed and was shaking his head "no. " So, either they have gone to a no-foreigner policy or they just weren't in the mood to serve a whitey tonight.
Feeling a little let down, I made a return visit to Belle. My third visit there over the last year and a half or so. Typical routine. Pay 70, 000 KRW, change into a robe, shower, return to room and push button to let the girl know you're ready. After a 5 minute wait, in walks what I would call a very average looking Korean girl in her early 20's. Very slim, and somewhat conservatively dressed in a knit top and mid-calf length skirt. Now, call me weird, but for some reason I find average looking, combined with clothing that isn't ultra-revealing, incredibly hot. It turns me on even more than a sexily-dressed smoking hot girl. Seriously, this girl looked like she could have stepped out of a college classroom just a few minutes ago. She introduced herself as Meech. I took off my robe, laid down on the table, and she went to work.
Standard massage routine. 10-15 minutes of kneading my back and butt with her elbows and knees. Nothing special, but relaxing. She attempted to make conversation in English and actually did fairly well. She had a very sweet personality and was fun to talk to. She removed her top, and then came about 5 minutes of her licking my back, legs, and butt cheeks before asking me to turn over. On the flip side, she licked my nipples for a few minutes, then moved down to the lower region for a short BBBJ. She didn't mind me fondling her breasts and feeling her legs up under her skirt (she was wearing panties). The HJ finish was excellent and I had one of the most intense endings I've ever had in one of these places.
All in all a good experience for the money. Belle is not everyone's cup of tea, but you have to keep it in perspective. 70, 000 KRW is just a little more than $60 US, and that doesn't get you anywhere near this much in the states. The only thing that would make this place a little better was if the girls got completely naked instead of just topless. Reportedly they do get naked and perform similar service at Cleopatra, but unfortunately that place appears to be off limits to foreigners now.
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Kangoo & Alfifi
About Grand Hyat Hotel Sauna special massage, how it is like?
Full Service?
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Hit of miss KW. When people starting throwing cash around, standards and service decreases. I don't mind paying a little more if service is stellar (repeat offender-like Nana), but untested ones can leave you feeling violated. If we keep prices reasonable then SPs will appreciate when you drop a little more after quality has been provided.
Yes, I can be a cheap Charlie but if I leave satisfied then I am more generous. Been burned so many times bro.
[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]
A more serious reservation is her pricing/timing policy. All of the above took place in 30 minutes. That's about a third of the time I usually like to spend. The duration wasn't a problem, though, as I was simply on a hair trigger with lust for this girl. However, it turned out that 30 minutes according to her rule is 10 minutes overtime. She didn't make any fuss about this and, even during the session, she didn't clumsily try to rush things along, physically or verbally, like some of the lesser talent does - although, truth be told, she didn't have to as I was, as said earlier, in an unusual headlong sprint to the finish anyway. But that 30 minutes was it for W150K. Which in itself isn't bad considering that the usual offer from the best providers on the Hill for an hour+ of first-rate service is 300. On the other hand, I'm a little put out that she didn't state the time limits at the git-go; I thought I was getting a bargain @ 150/hour - the hour being in my experience the std. timing on the Hill unless one affirmatively negotiates for ST. My bad, too, I guess, since as a veteran I should know better than not to question a deal that seems to be too good - another backhanded compliment to the capacity of Hae-Sue's charms to hot-wire the little head and short-wire the big one, I guess.
I'd definitely repeat (as long as the ATF doesn't get too pissed off), but would make sure to clarify the terms of engagement in the future.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Hit of miss KW. When people starting throwing cash around, standards and service decreases. I don't mind paying a little more if service is stellar (repeat offender-like Nana), but untested ones can leave you feeling violated. If we keep prices reasonable then SPs will appreciate when you drop a little more after quality has been provided.
Yes, I can be a cheap Charlie but if I leave satisfied then I am more generous. Been burned so many times bro.[/QUOTE]
I hear you, but I find niggling over price queers the experience (and if the girl does it by asking a ridiculous amount and not immediately accepting a market price counter, I just walk); so my strategy is to give them what or close to what they ask, while letting them know politely I expect them to perform. If they drop the ball, I quietly let it be known and don't repeat unless and until it's evident both that they've gotten the message and are willing to play by my rules. It's amazing how many of them come around.
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Directions to Lots of Places with Street View Maps
Hey guys, I've been lurking on this board for quite a while and decided to help people out. Below are links to daum maps street view. This is in Korean, but it's pretty easy to navigate around and I always find it's much easier to make my way to new places after seeing how to get there online. On any of these you can click the X in the window to zoom out to see where it is in the city.
Let's start.
Mirai - Gireum Station Red Light District - Immediately outside of exit 10 you will see rainbow flap type things. Walk through and you're in the RLD.
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=505636&wy=1140262&level=2&panoid=4044747&zoom=0&pan=99.93338876740103&tilt=14.037465980705177&poi=false&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&screenMode=normal[/url]
Anma Street at Seoulleong Station - Take exit 10. Make your first left and then your first right. (you can also go left) This street has at least 5 anmas on it. I've tried this one and had an enjoyable experience.
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=511359&wy=1112930&level=3&panoid=4484380&zoom=0&pan=215.90959579846515&tilt=3.3422538049297903&poi=false&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&screenMode=normal[/url]
Comodo Anma near Seoul National University of Education - I really enjoy this place, it's very upscale and comforting. Directions are a bit difficult, as it's not right near the station. Exit 14 from Seoul National University of Education, walk for a while until you hit a big 4-way intersection. Go right, there is a Red Glasses store you will pass, followed by a Mr. Pizza on the 2nd floor of a building. Take your first left down a small street, then your first right. Walk for a while and you'll be there.
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=502793&wy=1107700&level=2&panoid=4472635&zoom=0&pan=228.90009450162893&tilt=-14.705916741691166&poi=false&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&screenMode=normal[/url]
Cool - Exit 2 from Gangnam station, walk a long time until you hit the Prudential tower, go left. Look for Cool.
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=507531&wy=1108570&level=2&panoid=4019034&zoom=1&pan=3.966413429853617&tilt=-0.5013380707395143&poi=false&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&screenMode=normal[/url]
Belle - Exit 2 from Gangnam station, walk a long time until you hit the Prudential tower, cross the road and go left. You will turn right up a small short road to find Belle.
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=507773&wy=1108611&level=2&panoid=4355512&zoom=1&pan=198.19062470533504&tilt=13.03478983922618&poi=false&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&screenMode=normal[/url]
These are all the places I know definitely. I hope users in the future can provide directions with daum maps, as it makes things so much simpler for me.
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Myeong ga
Hello,
New to the forum, visiting Seoul briefly so don't expect me to offer much more than this report. FYI I'm Korean American.
Made a visit to myeong ga earlier this Friday evening looking for this "elevator service" that everyone talks about. First of all, I think the directions need a little tweak.
From Yeoksam station, take exit number 8. Walk east along the north side of the street until you hit Renaissance hotel. Take a left once you see a family mart convenience store on your left hand side. (the "buy the way" has become a "family mart"). Take a left on the second alley way. Walk up hill one and a half blocks. You will see Myeong ga written in Korean on right hand side. The building has iron railings on the windows.
It was early in the day. Walked in. Mama-san took my order after I paid 180k, I asked for tall and sexy and that's what I got. I am upset that I huffed it all the way to this location specifically for the elevator service and it wasn't offered during my visit. It's the worst feeling when I saw the elevator open and I see a 22 yo guy standing there. Bummer.
I forget the girls name, but she was mid 20's, face was a 7, b-cups, tattoos, tall, nice round ass with wide hips, but slip at the waist, her hair was highlighted and wavy. She had a great attitude. We sat chitchatted for a minute. We got undressed, she gave me a shower. The room had mirrors everywhere which I like about Korean anma's.
Honestly I can pay for providers in the US and they have hot Korean providers where I live, but the service is alot better here.
Laid face down, she started oiling me up and doing the mouth massage all over. Honestly I have been to a few anma's but this girl gave the best rim job I have ever had. Teased my ass a bit, came up to kiss my back, then dove straight in while offering the reach around. Absolute heaven guys. I bang alot of girls for free, but rimming is something you usually have to pay for, and I tell you its worth every penny (honestly I don't want to have to kiss my gf after her tongue has been up my ass). She had me lay on my back while rimming all the while maintaining eye contact. Onto BBBJ, 69 with her on top, more rimming from 69 position. CG, mish, doggie, back to CG for the finish. Great eye contact, moaning and a tight squeeze with her arms and her pussy as we were winding down. She tried to kiss me once but I dodged. Think of where her mouth had just been.
She got up, showered right away, came back and we cuddled and talked a bit about nonsense. She is alot of fun. I hate to tell you guys this and not remember her name, but I tell you she was effing great.
Totally relaxed attitude, no rushing, alot of fun afterward. Asked for a shower she washed me off, god dressed, and I was off. No blind massage, but after I pop one off to a sexy little thing, the last thing I want is some fat blind guy touching me all over.
I think there are better anma's with better facilities than this one (the one directly across looks great. I'm leaving Sunday so I'm going to hit that one up tomorrow. I'll try to write a report if I get a chance.)
As for foreigner friendliness, not sure, didn't ask. I will wish you guys happy hunting. If only service was this great back home.
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The First Rule of F*ck Club
What exactly is the major malfunction of the pissante morons who read this forum and then tell providers about it?
I had dinner the other night with a fellow punter who passed along that he was confronted recently by a Hill provider who was told about the forum, now follows it along with a few others and thought she had figured out that he was me and was less than thrilled that she had only got what amounts to an honorable mention in a top 5 list I recently posted.
I'm seriously reconsidering contributing anything further or going into stealth mode.
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[QUOTE=Dizzy21]
As for foreigner friendliness, not sure, didn't ask. I will wish you guys happy hunting. If only service was this great back home.[/QUOTE]
Sigh, sometimes I truly envy the Korean dudes who have easy access to unlimited resources. Which is fairly ironic, since Korean "friends" often complain to me that Western guys can easily get Korean girls (which is often far from the truth). Most Anmas I have frequented have turned me down flat or jacked up prices. Nothing like leaving violated after dropping extra cash, and service was lackluster. Only a few foreigner friendly establishments have I left satisified, and became repeat customers. However, like anything in Korea (or life for that matter) nothing lasts. The reg SP often moves on, and the hunt begins again. The sad truth is that most Anma SP's has been brainwashed to believe that foreigners are "unclean" or "not pure", which make it more likely to miss than hit.
Korean blood and language skills do have their advantages.
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]What exactly is the major malfunction of the pissante morons who read this forum and then tell providers about it?
I had dinner the other night with a fellow punter who passed along that he was confronted recently by a Hill provider who was told about the forum, now follows it along with a few others and thought she had figured out that he was me and was less than thrilled that she had only got what amounts to an honorable mention in a top 5 list I recently posted.
I'm seriously reconsidering contributing anything further or going into stealth mode.[/QUOTE]
I hear you brother. That is why I have been less than candid with some of my fav's on here. Last thing I want is someone ruining my game or overwhelming the establishment with clientelle and jacking up prices (and decreasing service quality), and spilling the beans of on-line discussions.
It will be a sad day if we lost KW on this site.
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Another reason for forums like these
I don't know if anyone is familiar with Perb. Ca
It is similar to this site of forums but mostly for Canadian cities. It was my goto guide for any SP hookup. I'd highly recommend it if you are going to Canada. I kind of wished that ISG's South Korea section would be as active but I understand that there would be a lack of English posters.
The way I use websites like Perb and ISG is to weed out the really bad ones. Usually I find guys are little hesitate to release their "golden nuggets" to the masses but most of them would bend over backwards to tell you of a bad experience.
I think this would be more beneficial to the group so more people would try new places/girls rather than go to places with horrible service multiple times.
[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]I hear you brother. That is why I have been less than candid with some of my fav's on here. Last thing I want is someone ruining my game or overwhelming the establishment with clientelle and jacking up prices (and decreasing service quality), and spilling the beans of on-line discussions.
It will be a sad day if we lost KW on this site.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]What exactly is the major malfunction of the pissante morons who read this forum and then tell providers about it?[/QUOTE]
Whoever it is/was, wow, totally not cool.
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After lurking on this board for months, I finally took my first trip into the Korean p4p scene. I usually just wait for my regular trip to Thailand, but I couldn't wait that long so I decided to check the scene out.
First I went to Yongsan RLD, and I got a real looker in one of the back rows. She is 27 and has a ultra thin spinner body and looks like one of those girls you see in the kpop videos. I can't believe someone like this works in the back rows. I've already seen her twice. I got the long time with her. She throws in a little GFE with her service. I haven't tried kissing her yet though. Maybe I will next time.
I also decided to give the hill a try. I wanted to check out Happy Days after reading reviews here but it was closed all night. I would walk by periodically, and it was always closed. As I was walking, an older lady in her 30s from the bar next door grabbed me by the arm so tight I couldn't break free and dragged in her bar. Sorry can't remember the name. Fortunately for her, I have the Miss Robinson thing, and like older ladies more than young ones.
I'm ashamed to admit that after buying the lady drinks and the long time service, I paid more than I wanted to if I was thinking with my big head. I paid over 250K, and wish I would have stayed in Yongsan instead. But the service was totally great. I will say this happened on a Saturday night in Itaewon around 2AM. I sure that is when prices are the highest.
The best part though was that she was 100% GFE and PSE%, and everything was on the menu. Don't know about Greek though, didn't try it. But I did everything else with her. She gave me an awesome massage after I came. I didn't have enough energy for a second pop, but she said I could come as many times as possible. Before I left, she told me there are younger girls that work there she would introduce me to if I ever come back. She wasn't just trying to push herself only on me. She kept trying to DFK me as I left, but at that point, my head was clear and bummed out about how much money I spent.
So this is the question I have for you guys. I want to go back to the Hill again because of the amazing service I got there. If I go back on a weeknight, will the prices be cheaper? Or are they high every night of the week?
Oh, and Kimchi Warrior, don't go into to Stealth Mode. Your information is too valuable to guys like me. That guy that told the providers about this forum is a real fuckhead.
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Soon in Seoul
Hello everybody,
Within 3 days I need to go for one week Seoul for business.
I already read a little this forum but I urgently need some info from you guys.
I will stay in the Hilton, is there any massage with service in the hotel or in the neigbourhood?
I especially like massages!
Thanks for help and after my visit I will put my contribution to this wondefull forum!
Take care,
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[QUOTE=Camieleke]Hello everybody,
Within 3 days I need to go for one week Seoul for business.
I already read a little this forum but I urgently need some info from you guys.
I will stay in the Hilton, is there any massage with service in the hotel or in the neigbourhood?
I especially like massages!
Thanks for help and after my visit I will put my contribution to this wondefull forum!
Take care,[/QUOTE]
Which Hilton? Grand Hilton or Millenium Hilton.
Millenium Hilton should be better, as it is just about 5-10 min by Taxi to Itaewon, your sefaty Belt for action.
regards
Brain666
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Ffs
I'm also annoyed about the divulging of info. It is hard enough living in Japan (and Korea as well FTM) and trying to get some decent p4p. I just hope they haven't ruined it for the rest of us. Ill be over in Seoul again in the next two weeks or so.
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Hilton
[QUOTE=Brain666]Which Hilton? Grand Hilton or Millenium Hilton.
Millenium Hilton should be better, as it is just about 5-10 min by Taxi to Itaewon, your sefaty Belt for action.
regards
Brain666[/QUOTE]
It will be the Millenium Hilton.
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Whoaaaaa, Scarey Time
Well I have been in Seoul for 2 days and decided to do a little hunting for a Anma that took foreigners. I am staying in the Renaissance so I just took a walk around a 4 block area. Big blocks. Well found one side street that 4 or 5 Anma's and it seems as though if Massage is spelled out in English then they are favorable to Foreigners.
Well on to the scarey part. Stop at one place and went in they starting price was 240000w, whoaaa way to much after reading the forum. So I got the price down to 1600000, a little bit better, must of been a slow night. Anyway up I went to the 3rd floor, undress, have some water, and a cigerrete and we jumped into the shower. She definitely had a nice body about a 7. 5 and face was cute as hell. 9. Probably around 34C-26-34. Back to the action, after the shower layed face down on the bed and the tongue bath started, very nice with a little rimming. Then came the flip and the tongue bath started at my nipples down my legs and back up with a little bit of a HJ thrown in. By this time the soldier was standing at attention and when her lips slip over the soldier I thought I was in heaven about 5 minutes of pure joy, felt like I had a Hoover on my dick. Then she stopped and I was thinking ahhhhhhh. Don't, but it was only for a drink of water. COLD Water which she held in her mouth while she resumed her BJ. God that is great. After another 5 minutes or so she suited the soldier up and climbed on CG, absolutely beautiful after a while we switched to Mish and then DS, then back to Mish when I couldn't take it any longer. After that she cleaned me up and was finishing off the massage and still a little HJ. When a knock on the door. Thought it was the mamasan, but know, who walks in but the Korean police. Oh SHIT. Here she was naked, I was naked and at least she was smart enought to pick up and hide any evidence. God my heart was pounding, what happen to advance notice. They asked where I was from, how much I paid and how long I had been there. Asked if I had oral sex or sex and of course the answer was no. Fellas take it from me make it an in-call, at least you don't have to worry about the police barging in. Whoaa SCAREY TIME!
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I am presently in Seoul. And this is my review so far.
Staying at the soengpa ku district. Particularly Jamsil. I decided to roam the area. After a few drinks in the local bar district. I was thought to recognosize the "an ma" meaning "massage" in korean sign.
All were foreigner friendly as I walk to the counter. I gestured that I can't speak Korean. Nevertheless. There is a uniformity to the price. KRM180K. Which to me is way beyond an acceptable cost for a short time encounter.
Lasting thoughts.
Korea is not anti foreign. But is pricey.
Saw this 1. 6M beau at one of the "an ma". Really great pedigree. She was the one who help translate the price to me. Hmmmmm. Worth the price for a long time but I decided not to succumb to my carnal desires. As the 180K won for a short time is way beyong my usual acceptable standards.
I will check out the hill tomorrow and report back.
[QUOTE=JimJim005]After lurking on this board for months, I finally took my first trip into the Korean p4p scene. I usually just wait for my regular trip to Thailand, but I couldn't wait that long so I decided to check the scene out.
First I went to Yongsan RLD, and I got a real looker in one of the back rows. She is 27 and has a ultra thin spinner body and looks like one of those girls you see in the kpop videos. I can't believe someone like this works in the back rows. I've already seen her twice. I got the long time with her. She throws in a little GFE with her service. I haven't tried kissing her yet though. Maybe I will next time.
I also decided to give the hill a try. I wanted to check out Happy Days after reading reviews here but it was closed all night. I would walk by periodically, and it was always closed. As I was walking, an older lady in her 30s from the bar next door grabbed me by the arm so tight I couldn't break free and dragged in her bar. Sorry can't remember the name. Fortunately for her, I have the Miss Robinson thing, and like older ladies more than young ones.
I'm ashamed to admit that after buying the lady drinks and the long time service, I paid more than I wanted to if I was thinking with my big head. I paid over 250K, and wish I would have stayed in Yongsan instead. But the service was totally great. I will say this happened on a Saturday night in Itaewon around 2AM. I sure that is when prices are the highest.
The best part though was that she was 100% GFE and PSE%, and everything was on the menu. Don't know about Greek though, didn't try it. But I did everything else with her. She gave me an awesome massage after I came. I didn't have enough energy for a second pop, but she said I could come as many times as possible. Before I left, she told me there are younger girls that work there she would introduce me to if I ever come back. She wasn't just trying to push herself only on me. She kept trying to DFK me as I left, but at that point, my head was clear and bummed out about how much money I spent.
So this is the question I have for you guys. I want to go back to the Hill again because of the amazing service I got there. If I go back on a weeknight, will the prices be cheaper? Or are they high every night of the week?
Oh, and Kimchi Warrior, don't go into to Stealth Mode. Your information is too valuable to guys like me. That guy that told the providers about this forum is a real fuckhead.[/QUOTE]
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Russian maids
Has anyone had any luck trying to score with the russian maids that occasionally work in hotels? Maybe they will be willing, since it's kind of private, easy and potentially lucrative.
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Visited Itaewon for the first time. Found Hooker Hill without a map or even an idea. Simply walked up the first hill I saw.
Many women out, few customers. Some assholes on top of the hill yelling at guys not to enter any of these places. WTF?
Got a BBBJNQ for 50,000 from the best looking woman I saw there (and she was actually good looking by any standards). Drank a beer in a pub then hit another place where I was offered BBBJ and FS for 150,000 WON. Counter offered 80,000. Provider looked pretty nice, body a little loose, terrible implants. Incredibly sweet though. Got 100 minutes of BBBJ and got BBFS with a little begging. Came on her belly. Won't mention names since providers apparently read the forums.
Feel free to scold me for paying too much and going raw.
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Dropping a Dime on the Round-Eye?
Not really enough evidence to conclusively determine that "not foreigner-friendly" has been taken to new lows in the ROK, but a correspondent recently informed me of his suspicion that's exactly what happened when he visited an anma in the Seoullung corridor recently. After getting admitted to an unnamed joint in one of the alleys north and east of Seoullung Station, and even managing to avoid the foreigner premium, he got the dick-shriveling experience of his life when there was a knock on the door. Thinking it was just the mamasan signaling the end of time he opened up and found himself being ogled by LEO. Fortunately, all the incriminating evidence had already been cleaned up by his provider, so he denied having had sex or oral (mmm, has Korean LEO learned something from Bill Clinton?) and claimed he'd just gotten a bath and massage. They let him go. Given that this was pretty much a local and Japanese-frequented establishment and that such places are notoriously off-limits to LEO unless they harboring someone special (like a govt official for who some others have got out the long knives), it's hard to avoid speculating that he was ratted out. Anyway, be prudent out there, even in anma land if you're lucky enough to get in.
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[QUOTE=Rick Rock]Visited Itaewon for the first time. Won't mention names since providers apparently read the forums. [/QUOTE]
So, now the forum has become little more than a soapbox from which to wave your dick and pound your chest in post-coital triumphalism. No genuinely useful info, given not only the lack of names but even exact locations. No blame to RR, though. Instead, congrats to the no game losers who told the girls about the forum; they are the real losers, anyway, since some of us already have the knowledge.
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I fully planned to give names and locations until I read about the recent problems here. I thought the prices and activities may at least help.
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Anyone know girls who speak English at DaeDdaelbangs?
Hey,
I'm looking for girls at DaeDdaelbangs or Fetish Clubs who speak English, even moderately. At such places like Cool, Belle, etc
I thought I had one at Belle but I guess she didn't give me her real name or I remembered it wrong.
PM me and I'll try to pay you back. I'm a novice at Korean.
Thanks
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Has anyone used estkorea.com yet?
Outcall is ridiculously expensive. Also the english text is pretty messed up
Incall. Still expensive. But if the quality is okay. Maybe worth a shot.
Any other providers advertising online?
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wow
All I can say is bummers. I can remember far back enough when this board was as silent as a tit mouse in church. Now it is just getting good and someone has to go and fuck it up. Way to go asshole.
Obviously a lurker and not a poster. Well, I guess that is the end of that. FFS. I mean really, does it take that much thought?
Hope you got some points out of spilling the beans Mr. Jerkoff, but I doubt it since your game probably sucks anyway.
Like KW said, some of us already have the info already.
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On a lighter note, with the a friend of mine with minimal Hangul skills recommends 'Queen Kiss Bong" in the college area of Sinchon if you're into that sort of thing. Said he's gotten 1 hour kissing/grouping service with HJ finish for 30,000 with a sweet young college girl. More is apparently on the table if you can negotiate it and the chemistry is right.
Phone # is 02-324-7310
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R U sure about that?
[QUOTE=Rick Rock]On a lighter note, with the a friend of mine with minimal Hangul skills recommends 'Queen Kiss Bong" in the college area of Sinchon if you're into that sort of thing. Said he's gotten 1 hour kissing/grouping service with HJ finish for 30,000 with a sweet young college girl. More is apparently on the table if you can negotiate it and the chemistry is right.
Phone # is 02-324-7310[/QUOTE]That price doesnt seem right for 1 hr. Virtually all kissing rooms charge 40k for 35 min and 70k for 1 hr.
Maybe the 30K was only for the HJ and so that would be 100K total for 1 hr of kissing and the HJ, which sounds about right for the market in Korea.
HJs given by the girl is basically strictly off limits. They're not even supposed to touch yr member at all. You are however allowed to whack off in front of the girl as long as u keep yr distance and don't try to finger her.
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Should have been 130,000 won. Missed the 1 key.
I cannot be 100% sure since I didn't partake, but he's a fairly trust worthy guy and I believe what he says. He said he got the HJ from her, not self applied.
Heard from another Gyeonsangnam-do native Korean guy that he received HJ in a kiss bang a year back in Seoul too.
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[QUOTE=Rick Rock]Should have been 130,000 won. Missed the 1 key.
I cannot be 100% sure since I didn't partake, but he's a fairly trust worthy guy and I believe what he says. He said he got the HJ from her, not self applied.
Heard from another Gyeonsangnam-do native Korean guy that he received HJ in a kiss bang a year back in Seoul too.[/QUOTE]
W130K for a hug and (maybe) a tug? Why bother?
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An hour of basically GFE, kissing, roaming with HJ finish. I could see how it would be worth it if you're into that. Especially when you consider that people blow much more than that in strip clubs in a few minutes in the states, or spend around the same for decent massage with HJ finish in places like NYC.
If you're not interested that's fine. Just passing on the info.
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]W130K for a hug and (maybe) a tug? Why bother?[/QUOTE]Perhaps that appeals to some people, not everyone enjoys the crap on the hill.
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[QUOTE=Kimchikid]Perhaps that appeals to some people, not everyone enjoys the crap on the hill.[/QUOTE]
By all means to each his own; but there's crap everywhere; the gift is finding the pearls in the muddy water.
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]W130K for a hug and (maybe) a tug? Why bother?[/QUOTE]Indeed, why bother for that price when you can get essentially the same thing at almost half the price at hand job/sports massage places.
I doubt this list is up to date but anyway if you can figure out the Korean here's a start to find hand job places (not the older twin barber pole places) in your neighborhood:
[url]http://blog.daum.net/_blog/BlogTypeView.do?blogid=08Fmp&articleno=11961785#ajax_history_home[/url]
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Advice on local pick-up scenario
Not to deviate from the P4P scene here, and digress back to local pick up, with negating the Korean male cock-block, but some practical advice would be appreciated. Recently, my local pickups have led to a steady rotation of GFE experiences, with minimal cash being dropped. One can argue the merits and demerits of each, however, I have been growing tired of limited GFE encounters with SP’s and enjoy new variety. Moreover, although it is nice not to have to wear protection, even locals have their potential risks. Either way I am going to enjoy my current successes, before eventually returning back to regular P4P action. That being said, I would appreciate some advice on how to counteract the Korean male clock-block in public situations (from preferably Expats in Korea who truly understand the culture).
Example A:
Express Bus outside of Seoul (2 hour non-stop route). Young, cute 22 year University student wearing hot shorts sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. She glances over occasionally, curious about the foreigner. Young Korean male gets on bus, although bus virtually empty, he sits in front of girl. He proceeds to blast his music via his MP3 loudspeaker, and talk loudly on the phone. I wait until he sleeps, and lean over to ask the girl to show me where we are located on my navigation map on iPhone. She moves over to sit beside me and we play “challenge” games on my phone, and watch Korean videos on youtube. We exchange numbers, just as Korean male wakes up and stares up down, causing her to feel uncomfortable, and move back to her seat. He proceeds to call his friends and trash talk how the foreigner tried to pick up Korean girls on the bus. She feels more uncomfortable (“losing face”), and won’t return back to seat beside me. We get off the bus, and I say goodbye to her with her telling me to call her later. The Korean male is observing the whole time, and follows her in the shopping mall, as I go catch a taxi. I double-back and watch him open a door for her, and start talking to her, just envisioning what cock-block statements pour out (e.g. watch out for foreigners, he’s a player, etc. etc.). She doesn’t respond to my texts (except Holiday greeting sent).
Example B:
Express Bus 2 hours outside of Seoul (different location). Sexy, young office worker wearing short skirt, and little too much makeup sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. 1 minute left before empty bus leaves, older Korean fisherman gets on and sits directly across from her, and behind me. I politely ask him to move so I can lean back, but he refuses (obviously wants to check out her nice rack while simultaneously blocking me). I re-position myself in another seat. She looks really bored and keeps looking over at me, smiling and playing with her phone. Fisherman starts nodding off, but wakes up every-time I attempt to make moves (e.g. take picture out window beside her of ocean view), staring me down. Eventually, I move to the back row of the bus, sprawl out and try to take a nap (having my stinky feet literally inches away from his head), with direct vision of her in front me. She accidentally drops something, so I ask if she is ok (in Korean). I proceed to give her a snack from my bag, to which stares ensue from fisherman, so I give him one too (which completely confuses him as he throws it on to the seat beside him not uttering a word). Later, I ask her if she enjoyed the snack, to which she smiles and offers me candies. Again, fisherman shoots look of death at us, so she offers one to him too. I start playing “cute” games on my iPhone, she becomes interested, so I lean forward and I show her how to play. Fisherman hate stares resume, and she starts to feel uncomfortable. At this point, I should have told her to come sit behind with me, but fisherman would just turn around and continue his blocking. When we got off the bus, she said goodbye and smiled, and my sense was she wanted me to walk off with her. Lo and behold, fisherman immediately got up behind her, and escorted her to the bathroom. He even waited outside the bathroom to ensure that I wouldn’t wait for her to finish! (Keep in mind: He had NO idea who she was).
Now the rationale behind posting this exchange (rather than the typical steamy play by play on here) is I would value advice on how to deflect the cock-block without directly confronting the Korean male (cultural taboo) and making the target “lose face”. In bar, club, or even subway situations, I have this handled (move to another location), but can’t figure out to counteract this one.
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Had to say it
[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]So, now the forum has become little more than a soapbox from which to wave your dick and pound your chest in post-coital triumphalism. No genuinely useful info, given not only the lack of names but even exact locations. No blame to RR, though. Instead, congrats to the no game losers who told the girls about the forum; they are the real losers, anyway, since some of us already have the knowledge.[/QUOTE]It'S not like you (KW) provide anything valuable yourself. All your reports are about Itaewon, no real surprise there, just walk up hooker hill and pay out your ass. So, if you feel that you need to go into "stealth mode", so be it. For the last 30 years or more I'm sure we all know that anyone and I mean anyone can get p4p service in Itaewon. Get over yourself you pompous prick, I and other forum readers have talked and feel the same, I'm just the guy that had to say it.
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So Sayeth Mr. No Contribution
[QUOTE=Lunchmeat]It'S not like you (KW) provide anything valuable yourself. All your reports are about Itaewon, no real surprise there, just walk up hooker hill and pay out your ass. So, if you feel that you need to go into "stealth mode", so be it. For the last 30 years or more I'm sure we all know that anyone and I mean anyone can get p4p service in Itaewon. Get over yourself you pompous prick, I and other forum readers have talked and feel the same, I'm just the guy that had to say it.[/QUOTE]
Said the single post wonder. LOL
And, for the record, I have contributed re other venues, notably the Seollung corridor anmas, which (as I've noted) I also pretty much avoid because of the inconvenience and the low likely of getting admitted as a foreigner. I make no apology for trying to give informative info about various Hill providers. Of course, even an apparent donkey like you can get laid there by taping a couple of hundred to its forehead, but many of us would prefer to know who the providers are that have higher standards, better looks and superior service. It's clear from your (non) contributions that you don't have a clue.
Oh, and by all means feel free to simply ignore my posts if they aren't up to your non-existent standards; they really aren't intended for leeches like you anyway.
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Holy Shit.
I can't believe that that stuff happens.
[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Not to deviate from the P4P scene here, and digress back to local pick up, with negating the Korean male cock-block, but some practical advice would be appreciated. Recently, my local pickups have led to a steady rotation of GFE experiences, with minimal cash being dropped. One can argue the merits and demerits of each, however, I have been growing tired of limited GFE encounters with SP's and enjoy new variety. Moreover, although it is nice not to have to wear protection, even locals have their potential risks. Either way I am going to enjoy my current successes, before eventually returning back to regular P4P action. That being said, I would appreciate some advice on how to counteract the Korean male clock-block in public situations (from preferably Expats in Korea who truly understand the culture).
Example A:
Express Bus outside of Seoul (2 hour non-stop route). Young, cute 22 year University student wearing hot shorts sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. She glances over occasionally, curious about the foreigner. Young Korean male gets on bus, although bus virtually empty, he sits in front of girl. He proceeds to blast his music via his MP3 loudspeaker, and talk loudly on the phone. I wait until he sleeps, and lean over to ask the girl to show me where we are located on my navigation map on iPhone. She moves over to sit beside me and we play "challenge" games on my phone, and watch Korean videos on youtube. We exchange numbers, just as Korean male wakes up and stares up down, causing her to feel uncomfortable, and move back to her seat. He proceeds to call his friends and trash talk how the foreigner tried to pick up Korean girls on the bus. She feels more uncomfortable ("losing face"), and won't return back to seat beside me. We get off the bus, and I say goodbye to her with her telling me to call her later. The Korean male is observing the whole time, and follows her in the shopping mall, as I go catch a taxi. I double-back and watch him open a door for her, and start talking to her, just envisioning what cock-block statements pour out (e. G. Watch out for foreigners, he's a player, etc. Etc.). She doesn't respond to my texts (except Holiday greeting sent).
Example B:
Express Bus 2 hours outside of Seoul (different location). Sexy, young office worker wearing short skirt, and little too much makeup sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. 1 minute left before empty bus leaves, older Korean fisherman gets on and sits directly across from her, and behind me. I politely ask him to move so I can lean back, but he refuses (obviously wants to check out her nice rack while simultaneously blocking me). I re-position myself in another seat. She looks really bored and keeps looking over at me, smiling and playing with her phone. Fisherman starts nodding off, but wakes up every-time I attempt to make moves (e. G. Take picture out window beside her of ocean view), staring me down. Eventually, I move to the back row of the bus, sprawl out and try to take a nap (having my stinky feet literally inches away from his head), with direct vision of her in front me. She accidentally drops something, so I ask if she is ok (in Korean). I proceed to give her a snack from my bag, to which stares ensue from fisherman, so I give him one too (which completely confuses him as he throws it on to the seat beside him not uttering a word). Later, I ask her if she enjoyed the snack, to which she smiles and offers me candies. Again, fisherman shoots look of death at us, so she offers one to him too. I start playing "cute" games on my iPhone, she becomes interested, so I lean forward and I show her how to play. Fisherman hate stares resume, and she starts to feel uncomfortable. At this point, I should have told her to come sit behind with me, but fisherman would just turn around and continue his blocking. When we got off the bus, she said goodbye and smiled, and my sense was she wanted me to walk off with her. Lo and behold, fisherman immediately got up behind her, and escorted her to the bathroom. He even waited outside the bathroom to ensure that I wouldn't wait for her to finish! (Keep in mind: He had NO idea who she was).
Now the rationale behind posting this exchange (rather than the typical steamy play by play on here) is I would value advice on how to deflect the cock-block without directly confronting the Korean male (cultural taboo) and making the target "lose face". In bar, club, or even subway situations, I have this handled (move to another location), but can't figure out to counteract this one.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Not to deviate from the P4P scene here, and digress back to local pick up, with negating the Korean male cock-block, but some practical advice would be appreciated. Recently, my local pickups have led to a steady rotation of GFE experiences, with minimal cash being dropped. One can argue the merits and demerits of each, however, I have been growing tired of limited GFE encounters with SP's and enjoy new variety. Moreover, although it is nice not to have to wear protection, even locals have their potential risks. Either way I am going to enjoy my current successes, before eventually returning back to regular P4P action. That being said, I would appreciate some advice on how to counteract the Korean male clock-block in public situations (from preferably Expats in Korea who truly understand the culture).
Example A:
Express Bus outside of Seoul (2 hour non-stop route). Young, cute 22 year University student wearing hot shorts sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. She glances over occasionally, curious about the foreigner. Young Korean male gets on bus, although bus virtually empty, he sits in front of girl. He proceeds to blast his music via his MP3 loudspeaker, and talk loudly on the phone. I wait until he sleeps, and lean over to ask the girl to show me where we are located on my navigation map on iPhone. She moves over to sit beside me and we play "challenge" games on my phone, and watch Korean videos on youtube. We exchange numbers, just as Korean male wakes up and stares up down, causing her to feel uncomfortable, and move back to her seat. He proceeds to call his friends and trash talk how the foreigner tried to pick up Korean girls on the bus. She feels more uncomfortable ("losing face"), and won't return back to seat beside me. We get off the bus, and I say goodbye to her with her telling me to call her later. The Korean male is observing the whole time, and follows her in the shopping mall, as I go catch a taxi. I double-back and watch him open a door for her, and start talking to her, just envisioning what cock-block statements pour out (e. G. Watch out for foreigners, he's a player, etc. Etc.). She doesn't respond to my texts (except Holiday greeting sent).
Example B:
Express Bus 2 hours outside of Seoul (different location). Sexy, young office worker wearing short skirt, and little too much makeup sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. 1 minute left before empty bus leaves, older Korean fisherman gets on and sits directly across from her, and behind me. I politely ask him to move so I can lean back, but he refuses (obviously wants to check out her nice rack while simultaneously blocking me). I re-position myself in another seat. She looks really bored and keeps looking over at me, smiling and playing with her phone. Fisherman starts nodding off, but wakes up every-time I attempt to make moves (e. G. Take picture out window beside her of ocean view), staring me down. Eventually, I move to the back row of the bus, sprawl out and try to take a nap (having my stinky feet literally inches away from his head), with direct vision of her in front me. She accidentally drops something, so I ask if she is ok (in Korean). I proceed to give her a snack from my bag, to which stares ensue from fisherman, so I give him one too (which completely confuses him as he throws it on to the seat beside him not uttering a word). Later, I ask her if she enjoyed the snack, to which she smiles and offers me candies. Again, fisherman shoots look of death at us, so she offers one to him too. I start playing "cute" games on my iPhone, she becomes interested, so I lean forward and I show her how to play. Fisherman hate stares resume, and she starts to feel uncomfortable. At this point, I should have told her to come sit behind with me, but fisherman would just turn around and continue his blocking. When we got off the bus, she said goodbye and smiled, and my sense was she wanted me to walk off with her. Lo and behold, fisherman immediately got up behind her, and escorted her to the bathroom. He even waited outside the bathroom to ensure that I wouldn't wait for her to finish! (Keep in mind: He had NO idea who she was).
Now the rationale behind posting this exchange (rather than the typical steamy play by play on here) is I would value advice on how to deflect the cock-block without directly confronting the Korean male (cultural taboo) and making the target "lose face". In bar, club, or even subway situations, I have this handled (move to another location), but can't figure out to counteract this one.[/QUOTE]I fight back by giving them equally as intimidating looks, ask them what they hell they are looking at and usually they are so embarrassed they leave me alone and I am free to continue with my conversations, although, in bars isa completely different story.
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Yongsan RLD
Went to yongsan rld the other day. Had a good time with one of the girls in the A row. After we finished she gave me her number. Just want to ask, do girls at rld's usually give their phone numbers out?
BTW she told me starting next week yongsan rld will be no more.
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[QUOTE=Eric Mun]Went to yongsan rld the other day. Had a good time with one of the girls in the A row. After we finished she gave me her number. Just want to ask, do girls at rld's usually give their phone numbers out?
BTW she told me starting next week yongsan rld will be no more.[/QUOTE]Yes, they do. They would probably rather do it with a repeat customer than a complete stranger. The number makes it easier for that to happen. I've text before going to the RLD to make sure that a girl was working that day. It's useful in that way but don't expect this is going to something more. Hard to get a reply on time and often they don't pick up the phone if they're not working on that day.
Personally i think the number they give you is just their "working" number maybe lent to them by the mamasan.
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[QUOTE=Lunchmeat]It'S not like you (KW) provide anything valuable yourself. All your reports are about Itaewon, no real surprise there, just walk up hooker hill and pay out your ass. So, if you feel that you need to go into "stealth mode", so be it. For the last 30 years or more I'm sure we all know that anyone and I mean anyone can get p4p service in Itaewon. Get over yourself you pompous prick, I and other forum readers have talked and feel the same, I'm just the guy that had to say it.[/QUOTE]
Everyone, listen to the non-contributing zero here.
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[QUOTE=Coitus68]Everyone, listen to the non-contributing zero here.[/QUOTE]
Maybe we shouldn't forget the silent chorus of his imagwinawy fwiends, either.
;)
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Not to deviate from the P4P scene here, and digress back to local pick up, with negating the Korean male cock-block, but some practical advice would be appreciated. Recently, my local pickups have led to a steady rotation of GFE experiences, with minimal cash being dropped. One can argue the merits and demerits of each, however, I have been growing tired of limited GFE encounters with SP’s and enjoy new variety. Moreover, although it is nice not to have to wear protection, even locals have their potential risks. Either way I am going to enjoy my current successes, before eventually returning back to regular P4P action. That being said, I would appreciate some advice on how to counteract the Korean male clock-block in public situations (from preferably Expats in Korea who truly understand the culture).
Example A:
Express Bus outside of Seoul (2 hour non-stop route). Young, cute 22 year University student wearing hot shorts sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. She glances over occasionally, curious about the foreigner. Young Korean male gets on bus, although bus virtually empty, he sits in front of girl. He proceeds to blast his music via his MP3 loudspeaker, and talk loudly on the phone. I wait until he sleeps, and lean over to ask the girl to show me where we are located on my navigation map on iPhone. She moves over to sit beside me and we play “challenge” games on my phone, and watch Korean videos on youtube. We exchange numbers, just as Korean male wakes up and stares up down, causing her to feel uncomfortable, and move back to her seat. He proceeds to call his friends and trash talk how the foreigner tried to pick up Korean girls on the bus. She feels more uncomfortable (“losing face”), and won’t return back to seat beside me. We get off the bus, and I say goodbye to her with her telling me to call her later. The Korean male is observing the whole time, and follows her in the shopping mall, as I go catch a taxi. I double-back and watch him open a door for her, and start talking to her, just envisioning what cock-block statements pour out (e.g. watch out for foreigners, he’s a player, etc. etc.). She doesn’t respond to my texts (except Holiday greeting sent).
Example B:
Express Bus 2 hours outside of Seoul (different location). Sexy, young office worker wearing short skirt, and little too much makeup sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. 1 minute left before empty bus leaves, older Korean fisherman gets on and sits directly across from her, and behind me. I politely ask him to move so I can lean back, but he refuses (obviously wants to check out her nice rack while simultaneously blocking me). I re-position myself in another seat. She looks really bored and keeps looking over at me, smiling and playing with her phone. Fisherman starts nodding off, but wakes up every-time I attempt to make moves (e.g. take picture out window beside her of ocean view), staring me down. Eventually, I move to the back row of the bus, sprawl out and try to take a nap (having my stinky feet literally inches away from his head), with direct vision of her in front me. She accidentally drops something, so I ask if she is ok (in Korean). I proceed to give her a snack from my bag, to which stares ensue from fisherman, so I give him one too (which completely confuses him as he throws it on to the seat beside him not uttering a word). Later, I ask her if she enjoyed the snack, to which she smiles and offers me candies. Again, fisherman shoots look of death at us, so she offers one to him too. I start playing “cute” games on my iPhone, she becomes interested, so I lean forward and I show her how to play. Fisherman hate stares resume, and she starts to feel uncomfortable. At this point, I should have told her to come sit behind with me, but fisherman would just turn around and continue his blocking. When we got off the bus, she said goodbye and smiled, and my sense was she wanted me to walk off with her. Lo and behold, fisherman immediately got up behind her, and escorted her to the bathroom. He even waited outside the bathroom to ensure that I wouldn’t wait for her to finish! (Keep in mind: He had NO idea who she was).
Now the rationale behind posting this exchange (rather than the typical steamy play by play on here) is I would value advice on how to deflect the cock-block without directly confronting the Korean male (cultural taboo) and making the target “lose face”. In bar, club, or even subway situations, I have this handled (move to another location), but can’t figure out to counteract this one.[/QUOTE]
Bunch of insecure punk asses. Oh the constant fear of the big bad westerner!.
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Action at RLD's
1) Is the rld at miari texas still open?
2) I noticed recently a lot of k. Cop cars circling rld's in seoul during the day and night. What are they doing/looking for?
Is it safe to enter/exit the glass houses while cops are in the area?
3) I'm just confused, b/c I understand w/the new law its officially illegal now, but the cop station is so close to rld's and they know what's going on obviously.
I mean, what is their goal now? Random, occasional enforcement?
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[QUOTE=Korea Kimchi]1) Is the rld at miari texas still open?
2) I noticed recently a lot of k. Cop cars circling rld's in seoul during the day and night. What are they doing/looking for?
Is it safe to enter/exit the glass houses while cops are in the area?
3) I'm just confused, b/c I understand w/the new law its officially illegal now, but the cop station is so close to rld's and they know what's going on obviously.
I mean, what is their goal now? Random, occasional enforcement?[/QUOTE]The cops are not looking for anything special, they have beefed up patrols all over the city in preperation for G20 next month.
It's safe to enter sure, but I would take precaution if cops were around anyway, just for peace of mind anyway.
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[QUOTE=Korea Kimchi]I understand w/the new law its officially illegal now[/QUOTE]
New law, old law, it was ALWAYS illegal. They were just paid off to look the other way and not enforce the law (or they tipped off the madames when a raid was planned).
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hard to say
[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]
Now the rationale behind posting this exchange (rather than the typical steamy play by play on here) is I would value advice on how to deflect the cock-block without directly confronting the Korean male (cultural taboo) and making the target “lose face”. In bar, club, or even subway situations, I have this handled (move to another location), but can’t figure out to counteract this one.[/QUOTE]
Hmm, Oh the good old cock block. Alive and well it seems. Well, there is always two ways to play that game:
Of course, acknowledging them in the first place means you are engaging them in the game, i.e. you are playing their game. They are trying to manipulate the female by guilt (the disapproving look). The female can choose to either respond to this manipulation or not, but if she does respond the manipulator (Korean cock blocker) no longer has to do anything, the guilt will do all the work.
One response in this situation is to advise the female that she is being manipulated and hope that she is wise enough or mentally strong enough to resist the guilt. If she is not, then there is nothing you can do, all the elements are internal to her. This of course implies that there is something "wrong" with foreigners, and by her talking with you she is doing something socially "wrong".
You the engaged are also acknowledging the guilt by allowing it to modify your behavior. Are you doing something "wrong" by talking with this girl? No! You are not. If you engage in a conversation with a willing participant on a mass transit system, who is to say that that is wrong.
Option two is to confront the manipulator. There are several ways to do this without his "losing face".
Say to the girl in Korean something funny, but loud enough for him to hear. Such as (in Korean):
Polite-"He looks lost, he must need directions!"
More Funny/Serious-"Man, this guy is staring at us. I wonder if he wants to ask you out?" This opens it up for you to ask HER out.
Funny-"Damn this guy is really screwing up my game!"
Others feel free to add your own.
Personally, I have never had a problem with the Koreans. Its always my own buddies that seem to take special pleasure in fucking up my game, such as slipping the girl their cards, butting in asking the girl to dance, confronting her when she comes out of the bathroom, etc, etc.
Pretty much why I stick to the P4P route, I pay them to leave! And even then I have to tell them to stop fucking calling me LOL!
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[QUOTE=Carmex] ...
Personally, I have never had a problem with the Koreans. Its always my own buddies that seem to take special pleasure in fucking up my game, such as slipping the girl their cards, butting in asking the girl to dance, confronting her when she comes out of the bathroom, etc, etc.
Pretty much why I stick to the P4P route, I pay them to leave! And even then I have to tell them to stop fucking calling me LOL![/QUOTE]
So its pretty much that your western buddies are trying cockblocking you in favor to possibly cockadvance themselves :D lol.
Greetings
Brain666
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I need some info. Last night I went to mugen karaoke with girls accompany. It seems like a classy place called mugen. I took one Korean out for one shot. Bit I did not wear condom during sex so I was worried about STD or aids/HIV. So my question is is it normal for them not to wear condom? Although I read somewhere that aids prevalence is less than 0.1% but I am scared now. So I was wondering if any one knows anything about this matter. I took the girl out at roughly 280usd. So I presume it's a high class escort?
Thanks if anyone cab help me out here thanks agaib.
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[QUOTE=Xiaoyingmao]I need some info. Last night I went to mugen karaoke with girls accompany. It seems like a classy place called mugen. I took one Korean out for one shot. Bit I did not wear condom during sex so I was worried about STD or aids/HIV. So my question is is it normal for them not to wear condom? Although I read somewhere that aids prevalence is less than 0.1% but I am scared now. So I was wondering if any one knows anything about this matter. I took the girl out at roughly 280usd. So I presume it's a high class escort?
Thanks if anyone cab help me out here thanks agaib.[/QUOTE]
Why would you be scared now after having read that "AIDS prevalence" is less than 0.1%? No one here can help you, get tested after 6 months and again six months later.
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OMG are you kidding
[QUOTE=Xiaoyingmao]I need some info. Last night I went to mugen karaoke with girls accompany. It seems like a classy place called mugen. I took one Korean out for one shot. Bit I did not wear condom during sex so I was worried about STD or aids/HIV. So my question is is it normal for them not to wear condom? Although I read somewhere that aids prevalence is less than 0.1% but I am scared now. So I was wondering if any one knows anything about this matter. I took the girl out at roughly 280usd. So I presume it's a high class escort?
Thanks if anyone cab help me out here thanks agaib.[/QUOTE]Seems ODD that you would ask if it is normal for "them" to wear condoms. It's your cock and your life. Me personally, I never take the chance and ALWAYS suit up, my life is much more important than a few moments in esctasy. I really just shake my head at all the pics on this site with guys and BBC in these girls, WTF, do they like to play roulette with tehir lives. Not attacking, just my opinion on the matter.
What you pay for the lady by no means has anything to do with if she has STD's or not, gezzz, did you really ask that question?
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]Why would you be scared now after having read that "AIDS prevalence" is less than 0.1%? No one here can help you, get tested after 6 months and again six months later.[/QUOTE]Actually, he doesn't have to wait that long. Modern tests are very effective already 8 weeks after suspected infection. But anyway, the risks are quite low in Korea for HIV. Chlamydia or herpes on the other hand are more likely risks when screwing providers unprotected. HIV doesn't only mean lifelong infection it also means a one way ticket out of Korea for life, if you are a foreigner.
But to answer your other question, I do feel like the option to go without condom is much more available here than in Europe where I come from.
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No cover
You are brave. These chicks fuck hundreds if not thousands of guys a year. My own policy is not condom no play. Always has been.
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[QUOTE=Le Lion]Actually, he doesn't have to wait that long. Modern tests are very effective already 8 weeks after suspected infection.[/quote]
It has nothing to do with the tests. It has everything to do with how long your body takes to produce detectable anti-bodies. Most people develop them after a month, 97% of people develop them by the three-month mark. If you test yourself after 8 weeks, but you are in the 3% that take longer than 12 to be accurately tested, you'll be walking around with HIV without ever knowing it.
[quote]HIV doesn't only mean lifelong infection it also means a one way ticket out of Korea for life, if you are a foreigner.[/quote]
(1) they would never know if you get an anonymous HIV test from the International Clicnic
(2) the Supreme Court has ruled it unconstitutional for Immigration to deport you simply because you have HIV. They are not allowed to do so any more. Nothing to stop them from keeping you from ENTERing with HIV, but they can no longer boot you OUT.
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588 + Anma Trip Report
Many thanks to member "Hi Rub" for his great info/maps (note: the subway station # is 124, not 125, to get to the 588 RLD):
[url]http://www.Internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php? P=473227&postcount=3016[/url]
1) Cheongnyangni RLD aka 588 ("Oh-Pal-Pal" in Korean)
-On subway Line 1 (dark blue/purple), exit Cheongnyangni Station (#124)
-Take exit 5, face the Lotte department store and head to the right. At the corner of the store U-turn left and then turn right either before or after the parking structure.
-Look down the small alleys and, especially at night, the neon lighting from the windows (similar to Amsterdam's RLD set-up) will be visible.
-If taking a taxi, it'll cost approx. KRW 15, 000 from downtown Seoul. Tell the taxi driver "Oh-Pal-Pal" or "Cheongnyangni" and he'll know what you're looking for as long as you're male/men.
-Subways are open approx 6 am. Midnight, so keep that in mind if you plan on using it to/from any RLD.
About me: Mid-30s, English speaker but Asian descent so I can pass for Korean or Jap. I speak very little Korean so I have to use a lot of physical gestures to communicate (and gesturing to show that I want "blowjob" is awkward).
On Sun/24 Oct 2010 at 10 pm I arrived at 588. I don't know if it was Korea's prostitution crackdown or because it was Sunday, but only 1/2 of the windows had lights on while the other 1/2 had lights off (ie closed). I walked down the alleys and saw total about 35 escorts wearing mostly evening gown dresses or mini-skirts with tight shirts. I'd say 80% were under 30 and 20% were over 30 y/o. The 35 escorts I saw were visible in their windows, so perhaps another 15(?) were busy with customers.
I chose a 24 y/o cutie with a face of 8, but the body turned out to be only 6 due to the small, saggy boobs and slight stomach chubbiness. I'd rate her service 8 since I was pretty happy with it. It was KRW 70, 000 for 15 min. When I entered the small bedroom, I paid her the money, she went somewhere (I assume to give the money to mamasan), and when she returned I took off my boxers and laid on the bed. She got naked, wiped my crotch with baby wipes and proceeded with a BBBJ for a minute, which was too short. Then she put the condom on and did woman-on-top for a couple of minutes, which was too short. She then said "change-uh" (position) but since her body was kind of a turn off and I'm not that into CFS, I told here I just wanted more BJ and no intercourse. She said something like "acki. Ande-oh" (means something like "cum(?). Don't) while pointing to her mouth and I assured her I wouldn't do CIM, though I prefer to (Pattaya, Thailand seems the best place for finding girls to take CIM). So she started on the BBBJ again and for variety and to get a better view of her best asset (her face), I went from laying down to sitting on the bed's edge with her kneeling on the pillow to blow me. After a few minutes of that I stood up and she continued the BJ, alternating with handjob action. The timer went off indicating the session was over and she stopped the BJ. I told her I would "acki" by jerking myself off and she politely waited while I finished myself off on to some tissue. I was pretty happy with the BJ+handjob duration/effort, though her BJ technique was ok.
Tips regarding the Cheongnyangni RLD:
-For an escort with a nice body, choose the most scantily clad girl so you can see her stomach and the size/outline shape of her boobs.
-I thought I saw some lady boys, but wasn't positive. All the girls were pretty tall because of the shoes/high-heels.
-From this one experience and my few times in the Seoul RLDs between 2000-2002, BBBJ+CFS seems standards.
-If you're foreigner that isn't Asian-descent, you might not get service or you might have to pay a higher price eg a total price of KRW 150, 000(?).
2) On Sat/23 Oct at 3 am I also stopped by 2 "anma's" (barbershop/massage parlour) near Hongdae (Hongik University subway station). You can find an anma on almost every block in Seoul. Anyways, I didn't partake since the masseuse/escorts were 35+, ok face, but body-type too chubby for my tastes. At both anma's the boss (guy at one anma, and mamasan at another) said it was KRW 90, 000 including FS. I asked how about BJ's and they indicated "no, " only massage + FS. I think the session runs for 45 min-1 hr, but I still wasn't interested since I figured the RLD has more attractive women who I can better see amongst the neon/fluorescent lighting (it's pretty dark in the anma's massage room where they bring the masseuse to you).
Notes regarding anma (note: I have never paid up, only entered, seen the room, and inquired about the service).
-It's a hassle to find an ideal escort since each anma only has 2+ girls, and if you don't like them then you have to go to another anma down the street.
-When you enter the room, you're supposed to put on the very loose boxer-type shorts they provide then lay on the massage bed. I assume that they progress from massage, to HJ, to FS.
-You should confirm that FS is included, since they may only provide massage+HJ which may or may not include groping the (naked?) masseuse.
.To find an anma, look for barbershops with the double/two, spinning barber poles outside the shop. Or any barbershop that's open late at night (eg 3 am).
3) I didn't have time or the energy to hit the RLD at Yongsan station and elsewhere. Back in 2001 there was an RLD next to the Seoul Station (where Line 1 and Line 4 meet), but I've never been to that RLD next to the Seoul train station and don't know if it's still there. 588 used to be the biggest Seoul RLD, don't know if that's still true.
I'll be in AC (Angeles City) 26 Oct. Early Nov if you want to meet up, and I might hit up Manila City/LA Cafe (which I've heard is now Manila Bay Cafe) around early Nov. Mid-Nov. Just PM me if you're interested in meeting up. I'll post those reports in the appropriate PI (Philippines) forums.
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Going to Korea
I will be going to Korea for the first time, arriving nov 1.
I will be there for 5 days for work, I wont have time to travel far from the hotel that I am staying at which is right next to Incheon international airport.
I would like to know if there is anything near the airport where I can get some pussy. Maybe an anma? possibly an out call?
I would appreciate if someone can help me out thank you
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[QUOTE=Camaromnc]I will be going to Korea for the first time, arriving nov 1.
I will be there for 5 days for work, I wont have time to travel far from the hotel that I am staying at which is right next to Incheon international airport.
I would like to know if there is anything near the airport where I can get some pussy. Maybe an anma? possibly an out call?
I would appreciate if someone can help me out thank you[/QUOTE]You would have to hit a taxi to head to Anmas by the AP, some may or may not take you as a westerner. You can check Craigslist for seoul, under "erotic encounters" a few freelancers as well as agencies that do out call. Most are about 220,000 KW for 60 min/1 shot for out call. Might be a bit more to Incheon.
If you want a rub and tug, look for the double barber poles, cost about 70,000 1 sometimes 2 shots and a half way decent massage.
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I got to tell you guys a story of caution
I got drunk with some friends and ended up at a double pole massage place in the middle of the night. I usually go to these places to get a good massage. It was an older lady and after the massage she turned off the lights and asked if I wanted her to be on top. I said sure. Now she had her arm/hand under her (between me and her body) and I couldn't tell if I was fucking her or her hand. It was only after that morning that I realized I could have had sex with her without a condom.
I was fuckin broken. I thought the worst and that I would get HIV, etc. I just read 28 Stories of AIDs in Africa (which you should all read b/c it's an amazing book and taught me a lot about the current state of HIV/AIDS in the world. I didn't know that there were advanced anti-retroviral drugs that could literally give you a full life even with AIDS). I couldn't eat, sleep or think about anything else. I thought I just threw away my life for a cheap 70, 000 thrill.
So I pulled myself to go back to the massage parlour and ask if she did use a condom or if she just used her hand. It was probably one of the most embarrassing and hardest things I've ever had to do since I couldn't even ask the question probably. Turns out the lady is pretty smart and only uses her hand. She talked about STDs and I realized if she was doing this for a living she would have to be playing it save or she'd probably be deadly sick by now.
I know that there are other STDs that you can get even with using condoms but it was the AIDs that really scares me.
SO PLEASE ALWAYS BE SAFE AND USE PROTECTION. Don't let that lower head do the thinking, ever. I'm going to be sticking to Kiss Bangs and Ddaedalbangs from now on. Nothing is worth that kind of grief.
[QUOTE=Coitus68]It has nothing to do with the tests. It has everything to do with how long your body takes to produce detectable anti-bodies. Most people develop them after a month, 97% of people develop them by the three-month mark. If you test yourself after 8 weeks, but you are in the 3% that take longer than 12 to be accurately tested, you'll be walking around with HIV without ever knowing it.
(1) they would never know if you get an anonymous HIV test from the International Clicnic
(2) the Supreme Court has ruled it unconstitutional for Immigration to deport you simply because you have HIV. They are not allowed to do so any more. Nothing to stop them from keeping you from ENTERing with HIV, but they can no longer boot you OUT.[/QUOTE]
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Exploring the Hill again
Hey long time yall. Well, was back on the hill again seeing whats new. Still I had to pay a visit to some of my old regulars. First was the short (midget) girl with the huge ass LOL.come now yall, if you havn't tried her yet you should She's got her own place across the street and everything. Bean I believe her name is. Always good service with her. Even down to do two guys no problem. So after I was done there, I still wanted to see if there were any new faces. So I walk right past her club which is ABC I believe (really need to start paying attention) And I think I stumbled into Capital. Small place with the bar on the right side. Small couch in the front and behind the curtain a huge TV and sofa/bed or something. Well, there is this really ugly chick in there but there is this really cute one also. Her name is Na Young. Her English is great, really nice personality. She says she was in NY for 4 years and came back here. Anyway, great time with her. Nice tan, cute petite body and lots of fun in the bed. One more stop from the night before. Totally forget the name of the place but I swear it's the biggest place on the hill. Plants everywhere, pool table and it's like a maze in there LOL. Forget her name but a nice girl with a very nice body, especially figuring she's a little older. Anyway, paid 300 for 3 lady drinks and she said I could stay as long as I wanted and as many pops as I'd like until I decided to leave. Suffice to say I had a great time. Well, I'm kinda worried about giving away too much info if some of the girls are reading this forum now thanks to some loser.
Anyway, happy hunting yall!
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Passed by Yongsan and Yongdongpo at 6-7pm
Not that busy 2/3 closed.
Yongdongpo was quite busy after 10pm.
Most girls were 5s-7s in Yongdongpo.
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[QUOTE=Turtle Power]I got to tell you guys a story of caution
I got drunk with some friends and ended up at a double pole massage place in the middle of the night. I usually go to these places to get a good massage. It was an older lady and after the massage she turned off the lights and asked if I wanted her to be on top. I said sure. Now she had her arm/hand under her (between me and her body) and I couldn't tell if I was fucking her or her hand. It was only after that morning that I realized I could have had sex with her without a condom.
I was fuckin broken. I thought the worst and that I would get HIV, etc. I just read 28 Stories of AIDs in Africa (which you should all read b/c it's an amazing book and taught me a lot about the current state of HIV/AIDS in the world. I didn't know that there were advanced anti-retroviral drugs that could literally give you a full life even with AIDS). I couldn't eat, sleep or think about anything else. I thought I just threw away my life for a cheap 70, 000 thrill.
I know that there are other STDs that you can get even with using condoms but it was the AIDs that really scares me.[/QUOTE]Even though guys really should endeavor to wrap their shit up, you really need to educate yourself on HIV and transmission rates. You do know that transmission from an HIV positive woman to a man via vaginal sex is less than 1% right?
Again, not saying guys shouldnt use protection as there are dozens of other diseases that will make your life hell -- but HIV/AIDS carries with it a shit ton of disinformation.
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Fantastic maps from before - Superman
Does anyone have a map to Supreman or an address/directions?
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Kiss Bang - gyopo
Do you have to pre make a reservation at a Kiss Bang?
Or if you show up as a gyopo you can get in?
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[QUOTE=Adrenal]Do you have to pre make a reservation at a Kiss Bang?
Or if you show up as a gyopo you can get in?[/QUOTE]Thats probably the only way you can get in is if your a Gyopo or speak the language. If you find a Kiss Bang that you like and plan to repeat vitit them, I am sure they can make an attempt to have a faviorate lady around upon your return.
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Foreigner friendly Kiss Bang
[QUOTE=Kimchikid]Thats probably the only way you can get in is if your a Gyopo or speak the language. If you find a Kiss Bang that you like and plan to repeat vitit them, I am sure they can make an attempt to have a faviorate lady around upon your return.[/QUOTE]I'm a white European who can speak Korean fairly well, does anyone know of a Kiss Bang where you can just show up without an appointment and they accept a Korean speaking white man? I've tried a few places but was turned down because they said I had to make an appointment and gave me their card, but that's too much of a hazzle for me. I just wanna go spontaneously sometime.
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[QUOTE=Kimchikid]Thats probably the only way you can get in is if your a Gyopo or speak the language. If you find a Kiss Bang that you like and plan to repeat vitit them, I am sure they can make an attempt to have a faviorate lady around upon your return.[/QUOTE]Better yet, if she likes you and you visit her more than a few times she will give you her number and you can bypass the front desk and make reservation directly with her. This is the way to go and if dont want anymore hit or miss experiences.
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[QUOTE=Le Lion]I'm a white European who can speak Korean fairly well, does anyone know of a Kiss Bang where you can just show up without an appointment and they accept a Korean speaking white man? I've tried a few places but was turned down because they said I had to make an appointment and gave me their card, but that's too much of a hazzle for me. I just wanna go spontaneously sometime.[/QUOTE]Normally you login into their website and see who is working that day. And if you see a girl you like you call up the establishment and try to make reservation.
If she's very popular, you have to call first thing in the morning (around 10 am) to make the reservation.
Having said that, there is one Kissing room that I know of that has an open system that you can just walk in without a reservation. It's in Hongdae and its called Kiss Time. It's behind the famous gas station at four way intersection where SC bank and VIPS are.
Good luck.
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Seoul - Superman (Turtle Power)
Superman is nice. I haven't been in quite a while and don't quite remember where it is.
You mind posting an address or map?
Thanks much!
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An ocean of water and not a drop to drink
After spending a week in Seoul, I had the opportunty of checking out most of the RLDs. Being a white guy who doesn't speak the language made for a very frustrating time.
My hotel, Marriot Courtyard at Times Square is very close to Youngdeungpo (literally right behind the hotel!). Unfortunately not one girl would even make eye contact. Continuing beyond the RDL and make a left and there are a few old women who were open for business, but I wasn't interested.
I went to Miari and the 2nd row mamsans meckoned me in to check out the offerings. After reviewing my options, I took an eager one. Unfortunately, once we got in the room, all the enthusiasm left and we both had a horrible time.
Then I went to 588 and again got the cold shoulder except for one attactive young lady who quoted 90000W. I think she felt sorry for me. I didn't partake.
I then checked out Yongsan near the electronics market. Along the back alleys, I had some interest but most were very old or past their time. There was a reasonable one which I spent some time with. Much better than my Miari experience but not great.
I think the only RLD I missed was Bundang. It's a shame I was completely surrounded by workers yet so little was available. This place needs an additute adjustment!
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Why go to a Kiss Bang? You talk a bit and kiss a bit with some touching and the final five minutes you're allowed to masterbate in front of her.
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[QUOTE=Americanthief]Why go to a Kiss Bang? You talk a bit and kiss a bit with some touching and the final five minutes you're allowed to masterbate in front of her.[/QUOTE]Some guys want GFE rather than expending their precious "energy" on wham bam thank you ma'am experience. Especially older folks. Also there is less damage to the wallet. LOL
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[QUOTE=Americanthief]Why go to a Kiss Bang? You talk a bit and kiss a bit with some touching and the final five minutes you're allowed to masterbate in front of her.[/QUOTE]
i think its for the different experience.
just like people may go to FKKs in Europe or watch some coke bottle go where they shouldn't fit in BKK.
so speaking of that...
any suggestions for or a kiss bang or school girl theme place near where i'll be staying right outside samseong station?
thanks much.
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Superman location
[QUOTE=Adrenal]Superman is nice. I haven't been in quite a while and don't quite remember where it is.
You mind posting an address or map?
Thanks much![/QUOTE]I think you mean this place :
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=507221&wy=1108617&level=4&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=154.0312367846246&tilt=-5.487957363344751&zoom=-3&panoid=4363322&screenMode=normal[/url]
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[QUOTE=Americanthief]Why go to a Kiss Bang? You talk a bit and kiss a bit with some touching and the final five minutes you're allowed to masterbate in front of her.[/QUOTE]
As already stated, some prefer the GFE. I really don't give a fuck about FS. I want the experience of closeness and affection. Kissing and making out is VERY personal and (IMO) much more enjoyable than just sticking it to her for 30 minutes.
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[QUOTE=Coitus68]As already stated, some prefer the GFE. I really don't give a fuck about FS. I want the experience of closeness and affection. Kissing and making out is VERY personal and (IMO) much more enjoyable than just sticking it to her for 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]
Aaah, the lies we tell ourselves... :)
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[QUOTE=Coitus68]As already stated, some prefer the GFE. I really don't give a fuck about FS. I want the experience of closeness and affection. Kissing and making out is VERY personal and (IMO) much more enjoyable than just sticking it to her for 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]
Apparently so do a lot of guys, judging from the number of providers I know who tell me about the significant number of customers who pay the price of a full trip (often bringing their own wine or whiskey to boot) for just talk.
But let's face it, 99% of the time GFE is, at best, simulated GFE, even when no sex is involved
The best of all possible worlds are:
(i) the real deal and sex (very rare w/ a provider, but not impossible)
(ii) good simlucram GFE and sex, and
(iii) pure PSE sport-fucking with a provider who's into it.
If I need a girl friend, there are plenty of eligible and willing civilians around.
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Apparently so do a lot of guys, judging from the number of providers I know who tell me about the significant number of customers who pay the price of a full trip (often bringing their own wine or whiskey to boot) for just talk.
But let's face it, 99% of the time GFE is, at best, simulated GFE, even when no sex is involved
The best of all possible worlds are:
(i) the real deal and sex (very rare w/ a provider, but not impossible)
(ii) good simlucram GFE and sex, and
(iii) pure PSE sport-fucking with a provider who's into it.
If I need a girl friend, there are plenty of eligible and willing civilians around.[/QUOTE]But there is a difference in GFE and an actual GF. With a provider who gives you a GFE you get only the positive sides of a GF, an actual civilian GF demands alot more from you than your precious money. I haven't tried the Kiss Bang yet, but the concept is very appealing to me, more so than the red light district (588, Yongsan) mechanical sex.
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Yeongdeungpo RLD
I stayed at the Courtyard Marriott this week and took a stroll through the RLD around the back around 11pm. I did not receive even one call for action in two passes. Not even a smile.
OAH
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]If I need a girl friend, there are plenty of eligible and willing civilians around.[/QUOTE]
That's the thing. I *don't* want a girlfriend. The GFE is the next best thing, and I know when it's finished, she leaves. No downside of an actual GF.
I've never been to a Kiss Bang in Korea--I feel they're just too expensive for what is provided--however, I do see the attraction to such a place.
[QUOTE=Darren 33]Aaah, the lies we tell ourselves... :)[/QUOTE]
Whatever, Dr. Phil.
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Capital Hotel
A word of advise to the fellas here: Capital Hotel is not any longer what used to be.
Three yrs ago you'd go there, be cleaned (tub and shower), would have a quick massage, then oil all over and body-to-body (i.e., soapy), and the final act. And would be very friendly (although no DFK).
Went there last week to revive good memories, and was disappointed: tub and shower was in the menu, followed by a regular back massage, then no soapy and direct to the final procedures (after the rubber being put on).
Quite mechanical, not good. Forget about this place in case you may be considering going back there.
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Does this ever happen? Seriously though. Really?
I always thought girls needed the place b/c of security and that they don't want guys to know where they live.
[QUOTE=Darknight]Better yet, if she likes you and you visit her more than a few times she will give you her number and you can bypass the front desk and make reservation directly with her. This is the way to go and if dont want anymore hit or miss experiences.[/QUOTE]
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Here are some tidbits:
Massage Place Near Seoul University Station (3rd Floor)
-Fully lockable doors. A lot older ladies but nice massage and thorough time with HJ. 80,000
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=489685&wy=1105930&level=3&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=204.37882017145742&tilt=-17.463276130758224&zoom=3&panoid=4600983&screenMode=normal[/url]
"Massage Place" But really a FS place Near Seoul Uni. Station (3rd Floor)
-Ok it's going to look pretty seedy at night and once you get up there the boss looks pretty sleazy. Rooms have a bed and a shower. You shower first and girl comes in.
-Girl is Chinese but wow the body was amazing (big breasts and hips). Closest thing to Jessica Rabbit from the movies. Or if you watch the tv show Mad Man think of Joan. Face is ok but bad teeth.
-Blah massage but 90,000 for quick FS. Would have liked to have gone to RDL instead.
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=489827&wy=1105933&level=3&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=43.48856467314806&tilt=-4.687510961414041&zoom=3&panoid=4103580&screenMode=normal[/url]
Hotel Massage.
-Basement. Lots of rooms with locked doors.
-Oddly had slippers and robes from "HERA" which is an Anma near Seoulleung station.
-Average massage with FS with an older lady.
-90,000. Nothing special except it looked clean and the location/entrance is discrete
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=489983&wy=1105860&level=3&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=212.4394945123497&tilt=-0.7603627406215185&zoom=3&panoid=4103610&screenMode=normal[/url]
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[QUOTE=Turtle Power]Does this ever happen? Seriously though. Really?
I always thought girls needed the place b/c of security and that they don't want guys to know where they live.[/QUOTE]Yes, it happened to me. I didn't ask for it though. She volunteered it without me asking. And my korean speaking abilty is at best high beginner. So our conversations don't get very far. It's all body language after that. I'm a kyopo by the way.
Secret of my success: "act" cute and treat her with the utmost respect.
Giving her orgasm without intercourse doesn't hurt her either. LOL
Actually she should be paying me now that I think about it. LOL
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Turtle Power, it seems you tried many stuff.
Do you have any good adress around Sinchon, Hongdae, or anywhere in Mapo-Dong, even around. I wonder.
Thanks in advance
[QUOTE=Turtle Power]Here are some tidbits:
Massage Place Near Seoul University Station (3rd Floor)
-Fully lockable doors. A lot older ladies but nice massage and thorough time with HJ. 80,000
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=489685&wy=1105930&level=3&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=204.37882017145742&tilt=-17.463276130758224&zoom=3&panoid=4600983&screenMode=normal[/url]
"Massage Place" But really a FS place Near Seoul Uni. Station (3rd Floor)
-Ok it's going to look pretty seedy at night and once you get up there the boss looks pretty sleazy. Rooms have a bed and a shower. You shower first and girl comes in.
-Girl is Chinese but wow the body was amazing (big breasts and hips). Closest thing to Jessica Rabbit from the movies. Or if you watch the tv show Mad Man think of Joan. Face is ok but bad teeth.
-Blah massage but 90,000 for quick FS. Would have liked to have gone to RDL instead.
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=489827&wy=1105933&level=3&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=43.48856467314806&tilt=-4.687510961414041&zoom=3&panoid=4103580&screenMode=normal[/url]
Hotel Massage.
-Basement. Lots of rooms with locked doors.
-Oddly had slippers and robes from "HERA" which is an Anma near Seoulleung station.
-Average massage with FS with an older lady.
-90,000. Nothing special except it looked clean and the location/entrance is discrete
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=489983&wy=1105860&level=3&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=212.4394945123497&tilt=-0.7603627406215185&zoom=3&panoid=4103610&screenMode=normal[/url][/QUOTE]
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Report?
[QUOTE=Turtle Power]Here are some tidbits:
"Massage Place" But really a FS place Near Seoul Uni. Station (3rd Floor)
-Ok it's going to look pretty seedy at night and once you get up there the boss looks pretty sleazy. Rooms have a bed and a shower. You shower first and girl comes in.
-Girl is Chinese but wow the body was amazing (big breasts and hips). Closest thing to Jessica Rabbit from the movies. Or if you watch the tv show Mad Man think of Joan. Face is ok but bad teeth.
-Blah massage but 90, 000 for quick FS. Would have liked to have gone to RDL instead.
Panoid=4103610&screenMode=normal[/url][/QUOTE]Any detailed report on this Chinese girl? Was she old? Were her breasts natural? How's her performance? Etc.
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[QUOTE=Abuasian1]Any detailed report on this Chinese girl? Was she old? Were her breasts natural? How's her performance? Etc.[/QUOTE]Yes, you'll find her face a bit older(40's) looking than her body which made me suspicious that she had a lot of work done. Body looked young and no stretch marks/sagging. Breasts did look and feel natural. She was very nice and smiley but a dead fish in bed. No eye contact. No kissing. Would not repeat.
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[QUOTE=Georges Orwell]Turtle Power, it seems you tried many stuff.
Do you have any good adress around Sinchon, Hongdae, or anywhere in Mapo-Dong, even around. I wonder.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]Actually I've never tried any places where you mentioned. I've gone clubbing in Hongdae which I recommend that all you do for a crazy time and lots of girls.
I did notice that there are lots and lots of Kiss Bangs in Hongdae and Sillim, in open view. Just walk out of the subway station at night and you'll lots of neon signs up.
Sometimes I go through that old(2006-2007) National DaeDalDang List, translate the directions, then try to find it on Daum Road View, and then go see if it's still there as even Daum Road View pics are out of date. The majority of the places on that old list are now Kiss Bangs. I guess b/c they still make crazy money with less police hassle due to that legal loop hole and they can put up shop right in direct public view. LMAO, saw some Kiss Bangs beside schools and churches.
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Dao Tomkratok
This woman is possibly infected with HIV and may be a tranny. I have recieved a report about her from a friend.
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[QUOTE=Unforgettablesk]This woman is possibly infected with HIV and may be a tranny. I have recieved a report about her from a friend.[/QUOTE]
Who is she; where does she work?
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Who is she; where does she work?[/QUOTE]
Is she the Thai who sometimes stalks the 'ville and seems to live in the really down-market yeogwan at the lower end of fish alley, when she's in town?
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[QUOTE=Turtle Power]Actually I've never tried any places where you mentioned. I've gone clubbing in Hongdae which I recommend that all you do for a crazy time and lots of girls.
I did notice that there are lots and lots of Kiss Bangs in Hongdae and Sillim, in open view. Just walk out of the subway station at night and you'll lots of neon signs up.
Sometimes I go through that old(2006-2007) National DaeDalDang List, translate the directions, then try to find it on Daum Road View, and then go see if it's still there as even Daum Road View pics are out of date. The majority of the places on that old list are now Kiss Bangs. I guess b/c they still make crazy money with less police hassle due to that legal loop hole and they can put up shop right in direct public view. LMAO, saw some Kiss Bangs beside schools and churches.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your answer.
Ah yes this famous list. I also did same, but in the area I mentionned, many are down, or if by chance you find one place, there is a big chance to be blocked at the entrance. Around gangnam is more foreigner friendly. But anyway recently I found a place near hapjong station with great service from simple HJ to FS, you can choose. Also I saw several people talking about Cleopatra in sinchon. You should try IVY, its not far. Young girls are naked, massage, then HJ/ real BJ/HJ. I will give more information later if some people are interested.
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Yes. This Dao is Thai and she speaks with a deep voice. Her body does like a woman, but my friend still have some suspicions. She lives in the Yeogwan that one of you spoke of. She is quite popular I have been told.
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More On Dao Tomkratok
This woman stays in a small motel near Hamilton Hotel. She is from Thailand. Be careful. She reportedly has HIV.
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George,
Where is IVY, near Cleopatra?
[QUOTE=Georges Orwell]Thanks for your answer.
Ah yes this famous list. I also did same, but in the area I mentionned, many are down, or if by chance you find one place, there is a big chance to be blocked at the entrance. Around gangnam is more foreigner friendly. But anyway recently I found a place near hapjong station with great service from simple HJ to FS, you can choose. Also I saw several people talking about Cleopatra in sinchon. You should try IVY, its not far. Young girls are naked, massage, then HJ/ real BJ/HJ. I will give more information later if some people are interested.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Ezinho]One more thing if you like huge tits, check out Ji Hye at VIP. She's been called a barracuda on here, but I thought she was nice enough. Only downside is she said she's 36 years old! But she doesn't look it IMHO.[/QUOTE]Being a "big-natural-breasted-girls" lover, I was suggested by Kimchi Warrior about a big-titted girl in VIP. I'm assuming you're talking about the same girl. By the way, I searched this forum but can't seem to find any reports on Ji Hye. I'm really curious on her appearance and attitude before I make up my mind of going there (KW says she's a barracuda while you say she isn't :/). The last time (and the only time) I've been to the Hill was a year ago just to check it out and not for any action. I normally only head to RLD glass shops, but I've still been unsuccessful in finding a big-boobed girl.
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[QUOTE=Georges Orwell]Thanks for your answer.
Ah yes this famous list. I also did same, but in the area I mentionned, many are down, or if by chance you find one place, there is a big chance to be blocked at the entrance. Around gangnam is more foreigner friendly. But anyway recently I found a place near hapjong station with great service from simple HJ to FS, you can choose. Also I saw several people talking about Cleopatra in sinchon. You should try IVY, its not far. Young girls are naked, massage, then HJ/ real BJ/HJ. I will give more information later if some people are interested.[/QUOTE]
Could you give directions to that place in Hapjeong?
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Anything like Maggies?
Looks likely that I'll be heading to Seoul for business next month. I'm wondering if there is anything similar in format to Maggies Bar in Beijing. If you haven't been there, it's a place where WG's (primarily Mongolians) hang out and there's good music while interacting with those ladies. The closest thing I can tell from the forum is JJ Mahoney's but that looks rather spendy as well as not really a sure thing. Any other spots in town that are good to investigate? Not into buymedrink joints and things like that. Just checking... :o
Cheers
The Tanuki
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[QUOTE=Abuasian1]Being a "big-natural-breasted-girls" lover, I was suggested by Kimchi Warrior about a big-titted girl in VIP. I'm assuming you're talking about the same girl. By the way, I searched this forum but can't seem to find any reports on Ji Hye. I'm really curious on her appearance and attitude before I make up my mind of going there (KW says she's a barracuda while you say she isn't :/). The last time (and the only time) I've been to the Hill was a year ago just to check it out and not for any action. I normally only head to RLD glass shops, but I've still been unsuccessful in finding a big-boobed girl.[/QUOTE]
Ji Hye still worked at VIPS as of about 2 months ago, so is probably still there. She's about 5'4" with long black hair and is slightly thick, but not overweight. I think she's a barracuda, but YMMV. Also on the big-titted list is the girl @ Rosy's a bit farther up the block and across the street. Don't remember her name (Candy?), but do remember that she does anal. Also a bit of a piranha IMO, and she sometimes works a tag team with Ji-Hye. Another possibility is the infamous (for binge- drinking) Ina, now @ ING up on the right near Peach Phuzz and Nymph on the main street off which hooker ill proper is the first left turn. There also are some others up on the main hill at e.g., Happy Days, but they are generally also "larger" and even, imo, grossly fat. Happy hunting.
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[QUOTE=Unforgettablesk]Yes. This Dao is Thai and she speaks with a deep voice. Her body does like a woman, but my friend still have some suspicions. She lives in the Yeogwan that one of you spoke of. She is quite popular I have been told.[/QUOTE]
Hard to believe she's popular as she's pretty nasty looking, whatever her medical status.
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[QUOTE=The Tanuki]Looks likely that I'll be heading to Seoul for business next month. I'm wondering if there is anything similar in format to Maggies Bar in Beijing. If you haven't been there, it's a place where WG's (primarily Mongolians) hang out and there's good music while interacting with those ladies. The closest thing I can tell from the forum is JJ Mahoney's but that looks rather spendy as well as not really a sure thing. Any other spots in town that are good to investigate? Not into buymedrink joints and things like that. Just checking... :o
Cheers
The Tanuki[/QUOTE]
In short, no: JJs is the closest thing, and it's not really comparable
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Thought so...
[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]In short, no: JJs is the closest thing, and it's not really comparable[/QUOTE]
That's what I figured. So I'll probably see if I can get a Mongolian to come over for the week instead. :p
Thanks!
The Tanuki
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Ji Hye
[QUOTE=Abuasian1]Being a "big-natural-breasted-girls" lover, I was suggested by Kimchi Warrior about a big-titted girl in VIP. I'm assuming you're talking about the same girl. By the way, I searched this forum but can't seem to find any reports on Ji Hye. I'm really curious on her appearance and attitude before I make up my mind of going there (KW says she's a barracuda while you say she isn't :/). The last time (and the only time) I've been to the Hill was a year ago just to check it out and not for any action. I normally only head to RLD glass shops, but I've still been unsuccessful in finding a big-boobed girl.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I'm sure we're talking about the same girl. I left Korea over two months ago so I can't speak about the current scene, but she was there back in early September; knowing the turnover rate of the Hill she's probably still there. I actually hooked up with her the night before I left Seoul, at around 4 AM; she had been sleeping so she was quite tired, but she does have a nice set of big, soft D cup tits. Her attitude? She's all business, I guess, but what do you expect from a 36 year old, big breasted Korean hooker, GFE? Ha!
Anyway, good luck trying to find big boobs in Korea; you're going to need it!
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]Also on the big-titted list is the girl @ Rosy's a bit farther up the block and across the street. Don't remember her name (Candy?), but do remember that she does anal. Also a bit of a piranha IMO, and she sometimes works a tag team with Ji-Hye. Another possibility is the infamous (for binge- drinking) Ina, now @ ING up on the right near Peach Phuzz and Nymph on the main street off which hooker ill proper is the first left turn. There also are some others up on the main hill at e.g., Happy Days, but they are generally also "larger" and even, imo, grossly fat. Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]Oh. I was planning on checking out Cherry from Happy Days. Reading reports on her I got the impression that she was alittle thick, but since you stated that she is generally larger and fat (I'm guessing you mean her body?), I'm having second thoughts. I remember you suggested Inna to me a long time ago, but I found reports that her breasts are fake so I have no intentions to head over to her. How big and shaped are the tits of the girl @ Rosy's? As of now I will check out Jihye @ VIP. I greatly appreciate your info KW (:
[QUOTE=Ezinho]I actually hooked up with her the night before I left Seoul, at around 4 AM; she had been sleeping so she was quite tired, but she does have a nice set of big, soft D cup tits. Her attitude? She's all business, I guess, but what do you expect from a 36 year old, big breasted Korean hooker, GFE? Ha![/QUOTE]Thanks for the report Ezinho. Rather than attitude I was mainly curious about her performance. It is indeed difficult to find big-breasted girls in Korea. Me being Korean-Japanese, I was told by some of the people in this forum to don't bother with Hooker Hill since I can easily get finer women and action at the glass RLD (which are the only places I visit). But sadly I have a thing for big natural breasts.
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[QUOTE=Abuasian1]Oh. I was planning on checking out Cherry from Happy Days. Reading reports on her I got the impression that she was alittle thick, but since you stated that she is generally larger and fat (I'm guessing you mean her body?), I'm having second thoughts. I remember you suggested Inna to me a long time ago, but I found reports that her breasts are fake so I have no intentions to head over to her. How big and shaped are the tits of the girl @ Rosy's? As of now I will check out Jihye @ VIP. I greatly appreciate your info KW (:
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Sorry, I didn't mean to include Cherry in the fat category; I guess my convoluted syntax didn't make that clear. She's what I would call big without being fat.
Candy @ Rosy's has nicely shaped, firm D-cups and overall a better body than Ji-hye, imo.
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Jina/Gina?
Well I was browsing through the search again and I happened to find a report on a girl at itaewon by the name of Jina/Gina who also has natural D cup breasts. I was wondering if she's still at the hill? The last report on her was around February, and I believe she's been working there for a real long time as reports of her date back since 2003.
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[QUOTE=Abuasian1]Well I was browsing through the search again and I happened to find a report on a girl at itaewon by the name of Jina/Gina who also has natural D cup breasts. I was wondering if she's still at the hill? The last report on her was around February, and I believe she's been working there for a real long time as reports of her date back since 2003.[/QUOTE]
Jina is an on again/off again provider. Last time I spied her she was @ Tiffany near the top of the hill. Haven't seen her around in awhile, though.
Another hit or miss option is a girl who works @ Uncle Jack's about half way down on the south side of fish alley - the block that is a sort of extension of Hooker Hill proper running in the other direction. Don't remember the name, but she's VERY accommodating and has very soft DD pillows. She's also been around a long time; years ago she worked at Indian Joe's (which is long gone, replaced by a beauty parlor near the top of the main road beyond Cabin. Uncle Jack's itself seems to be open on an irregular basis, but you may want to saunter by and see if it is when you're in the neighborhood.
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Thanks again KW. May I ask for a description on the Uncle Jack's girl's physical appearance? It seems like overall I'll be visiting 4 places at the Hill.
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[QUOTE=Abuasian1]Thanks again KW. May I ask for a description on the Uncle Jack's girl's physical appearance? It seems like overall I'll be visiting 4 places at the Hill.[/QUOTE]
Relatively tall for a Korean; black hair (what else?) and, these days, a little pleasingly plump; attractive face w/ large eyes but no kewpie doll or great beauty.
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What happen to the Yongshan RLD ?
Was walking thru the Yongshan RLD and was surprise to see that at least 3/4 of the booths were knock down. Both sides the north and south side of the RLD. Is this the end of the road for Yongshan? Wonder where all the girls go? I don't think they would get a high turnover of clients in any other sex related business. (ie. Outcall, kiss bang) Maybe they will head to Mari or 588?
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[QUOTE=Jaderock]Was walking thru the Yongshan RLD and was surprise to see that at least 3/4 of the booths were knock down. Both sides the north and south side of the RLD. Is this the end of the road for Yongshan? Wonder where all the girls go? I don't think they would get a high turnover of clients in any other sex related business. (ie. Outcall, kiss bang) Maybe they will head to Mari or 588?[/QUOTE]
The last time I visited the Yongsan RLD was 4 weeks ago. The whole left side of the RLD was demolished (the windows were broken and there was red graffiti sprayed on the windows and the booths were busted up). Only 2 or 3 booths were open. The right side of the RLD was normal though. I talked to one of the girls and she was asking me if there were many men walking outside. I think she was clueless that the RLD was getting demolished.
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[QUOTE=Abuasian1] I think she was clueless that the RLD was getting demolished.[/QUOTE]
Unlikely, despite being postponed on several occasions Yongsan RLD was scheduled for closing years ago, the original press release read that the drop dead date was the end of 2007. Too bad it had to come to this but at least the barber shops are still around that area and some more seem to have sprung up lately but they won’t come close to matching the quality of girls from the RLD.
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Cheonho onto Yongsan
Can anyone confirm the existence of the cheonho rld? I went there yesterday at around 8pm following these directions
[url]http://www.Internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=757231&postcount=4034[/url]
Passed the police station to my left and the row of well lit shops to my right, kept walking while looking to my right and I didn't see anything obvious except a lone double barbershop poll. Eventually I took a random right and walked down a street where I found a large space that was completely cleared. I'm hoping this wasnt the former location. After about 30minute of unsuccessful searching I gave up and headed to yongsan where I would eventually find some action but from an unexpected source.
First I'll preface this report by saying this is my first experience with a rld. I'm an american gyopo visiting family for 2 weeks and only recently found out how easy it is to get my dick wet here for a very reasonable price, thank you cards littered on the streets and internationalsexguide. My korean is not great, I'm better at understanding then speaking but I can get by.
On to yongsan. I had walked through the row earlier in the day(around 11am) on a recon run and there were maybe 4-5 girls working, knocking on the windows as I walked by to get my attention. Although I only glanced at the girls for fear eye contact would get me trapped into a nooner I thought this was nice as it was my first experience with a rld and also it being so early so I made a mental note to return after I checked out cheonho. So here I was after "checking out" cheonho, a bit buzzed from the 2 beers I slammed at the station, I took the same path I had taken early in the day expecting a mass of surgically altered young korean girls hollering to get my business. To my sadness it was kind of dead. Despite the lights being on(it was about 9:30 by this time) there were a lot of empty booths and the girls I did see were either on the phone or talking to their adjummas.
So as I exit the first row I'm thinking ok that was disappointing, certainly seems odd that I would have more girls asking for my business in the middle of the day then in the evening. This mustve been an anomaly, maybe its hooker dinner time, I'll go walk down another row a little slower and if I can't get any eager girls looking in my direction I'll start knocking on some windows. This is where things turn a little differently then I had expected. As I turn the corner I see this man, maybe in his mid 30's about 5'6, coming out of his car about 10 feet in front of me. He looks at me and makes a comment about the cold weather, I agree with him and we strike up a conversation. About 10 seconds in I've expended all my flawless korean and he's onto my foreign-ness. We start talking about where I'm from, what I'm doing in korea, this and that and finally is asks if I had done "korean sex" making a pounding gesture with his hands and pointing to the rld curtain. Now this guy seemed very friendly and with the stigma of prostitution being what it is here, or lack there of, I said I took a look and was interested but hadn't had any yet (in retrospect as I type this I realize the guy could've been an undercover cop and that was not a smart move)
So having made my intentions in the area clear we start talking about "korean sex", what kind of girls I like etc and then he says to me, you know it might be hard for you to get action here cause you're a gyopo. The girls might have problems with it, now this goes against everything I've heard but I nod my head anyways seeing where this conversation is heading and right on cue here comes the pitch. He tells me that he in fact provides a motel service, that his car is right here and he can get me a girl to have "korean sex" with no problem, making banging gesture with his hands again. He tells me for $100 us dollars I can have "showtime" 40minutes and since "showtime" in rld is 15minutes his deal is far superior, he emphasizes the time difference a number of times. Now being thoroughly confused to what this showtime is and being unable to have him explain it any further(this guy does not speak a lick of english) I figure ok whatever it is 40 minutes for $100 sounds pretty good so I ask for details. Later I find out he means "short time" not "showtime" and I correct him on his pronunciation. As per the girls I like conversation I say this girl has to be pretty, service is second to pretty to which he laughs seemingly amused to my priorities and says well the girls in the rld aren't that pretty either, this doesn't give me much confidence as it seems like he's dodging my inquiry. He tells me that his service is entirely for koreans, so much so that he has to call get to action for a gyopo(this guy is seriously trying to make me think gyopos have it rough here) he says I can be sure that the girl I get only has sex with koreans. Apparently this is desirable even though I could care less. But the connivence of this offer being what it is and as I think about my very uneventful albeit short walk through one alley of the row I'm seriously considering this random mans proposition. The only hang over now being do I get into the car of a man I had just met 10 minutes earlier in a city that is still very new to me. Now of course if this were the states it would be a hell freaking no but seoul is a different city, I feel, probably to my detriment, overly safe here, so I agree and get into his car.
So I don't make this post too long I will continue with my experience in a separate post.
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I'm perfectly content to confront the K male, but lack of language skills prevents me from being able to navigate such situations.
otherwise, I'd be forced to just grunt out a hearty "mohl -bah?" (basically an aggressive, banmal way of saying, what are you looking at?)
and see what the stupid dork would do in response.
since I'm usually twice their size, they'd be slinking off with their tiny balls between their legs, losing lots of 'face' in the process.
and I'd laugh.
but you need good language skills (which I don't have) and you need to be into the local females more (which I'm not)
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[quote=carmex]
personally, i have never had a problem with the koreans. its always my own buddies that seem to take special pleasure in fucking up my game, such as slipping the girl their cards, butting in asking the girl to dance, confronting her when she comes out of the bathroom, etc, etc.
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i feel your pain. a good wingman is hard to find, but is essential in korea. recently, i found out my western "friend" has been calling and texting my gfe local pickup. apparently, he couldn't close the sale with her friend, so he switched hitters, even though i have been shagging mine for over 6 months! he gave me some lame excuses (numerous times), but it has sent my blood boiling. problem is he and i work together and i have to restrain myself from throwing him off the roof.
with all the talent to be had, i can't understand the cockblocking and birddogging (stealing your target). is it becoming that competitive here, or are guys getting that much more desperate?
as for p4p, i have had a steady local talent rotation, so i only frequented the hill once recently. the usual pinch hitters (looking more ragged). decided to sportfuck an old regular (beside old town). wondering if she is cracked out? vacant stare, absence of playful humour, and didn't voice a peep.
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So I get into this guy car, nothing fancy some kind of korean brand car and off we go. He gets on the phone and calls what I assume is a girl as he tells her that he has a gyopo whose korean is so so and asks if that is ok with her. Seems like it wasn't so he hangs up and calls another number, this time it sounds like he's calling the hotel as he says again that he's bringing a gyopo and that I will need service. He hangs up and says everything is good to go and that were heading to a hotel in someplace, the name of which goes in one ear and out the other. So the car ride is about 5 minutes and we talk about how things are in america, what I do there, how much I make(very korean thing to do) how I like it in seoul, random small talk. At this point I'm fairly confident I won't be murdered but the service end of it I'm still not too sure of. I ask about the girl and he's says its ok the service will be good but that I would need to wear a condom, he insists on this multiple times despite me saying I had no intentions of going bare back even it were offered.
We arrive at the hotel and its a very typical nondescript building, he walks me upstairs and brings me to a room, tells me to shower and then put on a condom, I was confused by this, put on a condom before the girl gets here?, but I say ok and he leaves saying if there are any problems come to hyung(himself). So I got undressed took a quick shower and I lay down on the bed and wait. About 5 minutes pass and I get a knock on the door and the girl comes in, I'd say she's about a 7, 5'6, hair down to her heck wearing a tight dress skirt, decent but not knocking my socks off although this being my first provider I have only normal korean girls to compare her to. She asks if I've waited long, how I was and walks over and turns the tv on then proceeds to turn off the lights. Now I'm a decently fit guy and pretty confident about my appearance so I don't take that too harshly but I would've preferred to keep the lights on. She then starts to undress like she's going to take a shower, very unseductively. And of course she goes and takes a quick shower haha. Her body was actually nice, fit girl not stick skinny with a decent set of B's and an awesome ass. Anyways she comes back and starts going to work right away, no DFK or anything, HJ service with the obligatory moans. Now right away its obvious I will be getting a phoned in service but we continue. The HJ is followed by a CBJ that was less than enthusiastic then she gets on top and does a little riding before she lays down on top of me and asks me to go at it, so here I am doing all the work pumping away, she's not very tight so I'm mildly entertained at this point, a few minutes of this and she says change position and gets on her back for missionary. Ok whatever so I get to work, during mish I goto put her legs on my shoulders and she says it hurts so that ends that. A few minutes later she says change position again. Well its pretty obvious who's in charge here. As I leave missionary and as she turns around I look down at the bed and see patches of blood on the white sheets. So I tell her theres freaking blood whats going on, she tells me its because I'm too big. Apparently I've punctured her with my giant man spear that I wasnt aware I had, I don't know whats going on and she goes to the bathroom to clean herself of my apparent stabbing wound. Now I wasn't freaked out about the blood since I was covered but it certainly detracted from my already luke warm experience.
So she returns from the bathroom and has me lay down and proceeds to HJ, CBJ me again to get me going then lies face down on her chest and has me do her from the back. At this point I just wanted to get this over with since neither of us were really enjoying ourselves have sex on top of her period blood. So I finish in that position and she gets up pulls my condom off and proceeds to tell me to go clean myself up. We have some small talk as we both put on our clothes and I walk out throughly disappointed. I will be trying yongsan rld again.
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[QUOTE=Mk Life]Can anyone confirm the existence of the cheonho rld? I went there yesterday at around 8pm following these directions
[url]http://www.Internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=757231&postcount=4034[/url]
Passed the police station to my left and the row of well lit shops to my right, kept walking while looking to my right and I didn't see anything obvious except a lone double barbershop poll. Eventually I took a random right and walked down a street where I found a large space that was completely cleared. I'm hoping this wasnt the former location. After about 30minute of unsuccessful searching I gave up and headed to yongsan where I would eventually find some action but from an unexpected source.[/QUOTE]I went there a number of times in the summer of '09. I was planning on returning to Korea next year, so I was not happy to read this post.
IIRC after the police station on the left and the row of shops on the right, there should be an entrance to an alley on the right, and immediately following that, an entrance to a parking lot (fenced-in, I think?). It's the entrance to the alley that I always used. Everytime I went this way, there was a car blocking the entrance to this alley, but once you get past that, you can see some booths.
You might have come too early, especially if you went on a weeknight. When I went there I would be there around 9pm on a Friday or Saturday night. There were enough places open, and there weren't many other customers around.
Mk Life, or anyone else interested, I would be much obliged if someone can check to see if Cheonho is still there or not. It was one of my favorite spots when I was in Korea.
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[QUOTE=Eum Yang]I went there a number of times in the summer of '09. I was planning on returning to Korea next year, so I was not happy to read this post.
IIRC after the police station on the left and the row of shops on the right, there should be an entrance to an alley on the right, and immediately following that, an entrance to a parking lot (fenced-in, I think?). It's the entrance to the alley that I always used. Everytime I went this way, there was a car blocking the entrance to this alley, but once you get past that, you can see some booths.
You might have come too early, especially if you went on a weeknight. When I went there I would be there around 9pm on a Friday or Saturday night. There were enough places open, and there weren't many other customers around.
Mk Life, or anyone else interested, I would be much obliged if someone can check to see if Cheonho is still there or not. It was one of my favorite spots when I was in Korea.
69[/QUOTE]I will try looking again Eum, i was looking for a curtain like in yongsan right off the main street so i couldve missed if its a bit more subtle then that.
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[QUOTE=Mk Life]I will try looking again Eum, i was looking for a curtain like in yongsan right off the main street so i couldve missed if its a bit more subtle then that.[/QUOTE]Did you go out exit 3 and go straight until you got to Woori Bank? Take right at this 4 way intersection. Walk 100 meters and on your left and across the street you will see 2001 Outlet. Cross the street and the small street to right of 2001 Outlet is where you want to head into. Walk about 10 meters and you will see the familiar neon pink lights.
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helpful website
I found this website today and it was quite helpful. Turned an otherwise boring trip into an entertaining one.
[url]http://wiki.galbijim.com/Anma[/url]
Back to China tomorrow...good bye for now Korea.
LA
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First Time at Belle
[QUOTE=Natloz]For those who don't know, you can reach these places by Taxi going to "Bangbang sageori" or from Yangjae station exit 3: go straight north downhill on the large road, then turn left after 5 min walk, at the Prudential tower. Cool is about a hundred meters up on the left, Belle is just a bit after on the right side of the road.[/QUOTE]
Before I begin my report, I'll correct Natloz's instructions. If you leave the Yangjae Station from Exit 3, you will walk very slightly up a hill and then walk down the hill toward the Prudential Tower. The tower is on the right hand side of the road. Turn right, NOT LEFT, at the Tower intersection and walk toward Cool and Belle. As mentioned above, Cool is on the left hand side and Belle is slightly farther on the right hand side of the road. Belle is on the corner immediately before the first intersection with a traffic signal (if my recollection is correct). Unfortunately, I walked around for 20 minutes following Natloz's suggested left turn. No biggee though, because one of the better P4P experiences of my mongering career followed.
I'm not going to go into significant detail about the visit, because I don't want to spoil a good thing for those of you who live in this city. Let it be said, however, that you guys must be MAJORLY underplaying how great Belle can be. I've played on the Itaewon Hill, and had dalliances in each of the major RLD's of this city, and this was the best bang for my buck I've ever had in Korea. It was better GFE than with anyone except my GF in the Philippines! Okay, I'll stop with the superlatives, but believe me that this place has great potential!
My experience proceeded as described by everyone else until my masseuse entered the room. While her face was not incredible, she was very pleasant to look at and a lot of fun to talk with. Her college-aged body was smokin'! Great full B cups and an ass that was fantastic...especially for a KOREAN woman!!
I don't speak Korean, am middle-aged, balding, and have BMI that is not very flattering, but I ended up with one of the best experiences I have ever had at an establishment like this. I am convinced it is all in the game and the conversation. Treat them well, use a little psychology, and enjoy the ride. By the end of the session, which included two pops for me and several orgasms for her in the hour we were together, nothing was off limits. I finally had to stop the action lest I succomb to her begging and violate one of my cardinal P4P rules...you can read between the lines as to what she was asking for. I'm definitely going back to see her again, but I'll be more prepared this time (wink, wink).
I'm not going to post her name on here...sorry...I don't want to get her in trouble or ruin it for the other guys who probably already see her regularly! Seniors may PM for more details.
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Correction on Belle Location
[QUOTE=Gern]If you leave the Yangjae Station from Exit 3, you will walk very slightly up a hill and then walk down the hill toward the Prudential Tower. The tower is on the right hand side of the road. Turn right, NOT LEFT, at the Tower intersection and walk toward Cool and Belle. As mentioned above, Cool is on the left hand side and Belle is slightly farther on the right hand side of the road. Belle is on the corner immediately before the first intersection with a traffic signal (if my recollection is correct).[/QUOTE]
Correction...it is the SECOND intersection with a traffic signal. Immediately past the Playboy Golf Store and the Ping Golf Store.
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How much doess full service cost at belle? 180k? 220k?
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[QUOTE=Onlyuplay]How much doess full service cost at belle? 180k? 220k?[/QUOTE]Belle is NOT FS unless things have changed since last month. I paid 70k. YMMV on the SP but never included FS.
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[QUOTE=Onlyuplay]How much doess full service cost at belle? 180k? 220k?[/QUOTE]
I don't think that's how it works. From what I can tell, from places like Belle, there is a standard flat rate of 70, 000-80, 000. They expect you to know that it's not full service and some places tell you not to touch the girl under the belt.
Whether you just more than a HJ depends on the girl so your mileage may vary.
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Unexpected
My trip to Seoul wasn’t planned (change of itinerary during my trip) so I didn’t have the chance to do any research on the board and I have zero Korean language skills. I stayed one night at the at a high end hotel in Gangnam – getting in about 10pm. I decided to walk around Yeoksamdong to see what I could find but there wasn’t much that I could figure out as I didn’t understand the BBS and An-Ma scene that I’ve since learned about by RTFF.
I went back to the hotel and had some food/drink in the lounge to see if there was any action there but saw nothing. Back in the room, I noticed that they offered a one hour in-room massage from a blind woman for $40k, which from memory I assumed meant non-sexual. I decided that a good massage would be great after two days in airplanes. Twenty minutes later a guide brought the woman to my room and she set up on the bed.
I had never had a massage on a bed before but she was very good at it, starting me face up. I created a couple of incidental contact situations but she moved on by and stayed focused on her work before turning me over face down for the last half hour. A few times during the massage, she made motions that she liked how big my body was (I’ve guess she likes working on large foreign men).
As the hour was ending, I was surprised when she started massaging my glutes a bit so I responded and she started probing my ass before eventually playing with my balls. She was older and less attractive than I would normally go with but this wasn’t planned and I decided to turn over for a bonus rub and tug.
She surprised me by starting into a decent BBJ, which got me really worked up. I could tell that she had no panties under her dress as she straddled my legs and she was getting wet, so I decided what the hell and indicated to her to do the BBJ while straddling my face. She had a lot more hair than I like but I persevered. At one point she tried to mount me but I pulled her away as we didn’t have a cover. I guess she didn’t have another appointment as we must have spent an extra 30 minutes playing until we both came and she cleaned up. If this was her normal MO, she did a great job of making it seem unexpected.
Now came the problem of deciding how much to pay her as I had no reference points. I decided to give her $70k but given she was blind I wasn’t sure how to count the money to her. I resorted to some rusty Japanese, which worked as I counted out the seven bills. I think she may have wanted a little more but once I set my mind on an amount, it’s hard to get me off of it. Again, not the provider I would have chosen, but the experience was good, unexpected and inexpensive.
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[QUOTE=Bret M69] Again, not the provider I would have chosen, but the experience was good, unexpected and inexpensive.[/QUOTE]
This kind of unexpected experience makes it that much better. Sounds like a good time to me despite her not looking exactly how you would have liked.
Good job!
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588
Went to 588 (Cheongnyangni) red light district yesterday, Monday afternoon around 4pm. There weren't many girls working, maybe around 10 or so in the whole area but most of them really goodlooking. As usual being a white guy I was ignored, just went through to check it out basically. But one girl suddenly waved and smiled at me, a young and very cute girl. So I went over and talked to her. She asked for 100. 000 but we settled on 80. 000. She had an awesome slim body, pretty tall, long black shiny hair and fake boobs and she had a fun personality joking around with me before and after (I speak Korean). It was the first time I ever got in there, I have walked through a few times before. Maybe it's better to go on the afternoon with less people around if you are a foreigner.
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[QUOTE=Turtle Power; 1099508]I don't think that's how it works. From what I can tell, from places like Belle, there is a standard flat rate of 70, 000-80, 000. They expect you to know that it's not full service and some places tell you not to touch the girl under the belt.
Whether you just more than a HJ depends on the girl so your mileage may vary. [/QUOTE]Exactly right, the expectation should be for HJ. BJ is certainly on the menu, but anything else depends on the woman and the chemistry between you.
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Itaewon Mississippi
Does anyone have any experience with the little bit older slim woman who works at Mississippi on the hill? I'm usually not in to milfs but if she is worth it, I'll give it a go.
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[QUOTE=Bret M69; 1100657]I noticed that they offered a one hour in-room massage from a blind woman for $40k.
Now came the problem of deciding how much to pay her as I had no reference points. I decided to give her $70k but given she was blind I wasn't sure how to count the money to her. [/QUOTE]This is a classic Korean massage. The Korean blind women's lack of sight has enlightened her sense of touch and givers her special massage powers.
A bit of advice to those who don't know about Korean currency. Korean notes come in 4 denominations of 1, 5.10, 50 M. All notes are different sizes so blind people can feel the difference.
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Is it safe? From police?
[QUOTE=Dizzy21; 1077915]Hello,
New to the forum, visiting Seoul briefly so don't expect me to offer much more than this report. FYI I'm Korean American.
Made a visit to myeong ga earlier this Friday evening looking for this "elevator service" that everyone talks about. First of all, I think the directions need a little tweak.
From Yeoksam station, take exit number 8. Walk east along the north side of the street until you hit Renaissance hotel. Take a left once you see a family mart convenience store on your left hand side. (the "buy the way" has become a "family mart"). Take a left on the second alley way. Walk up hill one and a half blocks. You will see Myeong ga written in Korean on right hand side. The building has iron railings on the windows.
It was early in the day. Walked in. Mama-san took my order after I paid 180k, I asked for tall and sexy and that's what I got. I am upset that I huffed it all the way to this location specifically for the elevator service and it wasn't offered during my visit. It's the worst feeling when I saw the elevator open and I see a 22 yo guy standing there. Bummer.
I forget the girls name, but she was mid 20's, face was a 7, be-cups, tattoos, tall, nice round ass with wide hips, but slip at the waist, her hair was highlighted and wavy. She had a great attitude. We sat chitchatted for a minute. We got undressed, she gave me a shower. The room had mirrors everywhere which I like about Korean anma's.
Honestly I can pay for providers in the US and they have hot Korean providers where I live, but the service is alot better here.
Laid face down, she started oiling me up and doing the mouth massage all over. Honestly I have been to a few anma's but this girl gave the best rim job I have ever had. Teased my ass a bit, came up to kiss my back, then dove straight in while offering the reach around. Absolute heaven guys. I bang alot of girls for free, but rimming is something you usually have to pay for, and I tell you its worth every penny (honestly I don't want to have to kiss my gf after her tongue has been up my ass). She had me lay on my back while rimming all the while maintaining eye contact. Onto BBBJ. 69 with her on top, more rimming from 69 position. CG, mish, doggie, back to CG for the finish. Great eye contact, moaning and a tight squeeze with her arms and her pussy as we were winding down. She tried to kiss me once but I dodged. Think of where her mouth had just been.
She got up, showered right away, came back and we cuddled and talked a bit about nonsense. She is alot of fun. I hate to tell you guys this and not remember her name, but I tell you she was effing great.
Totally relaxed attitude, no rushing, alot of fun afterward. Asked for a shower she washed me off, god dressed, and I was off. No blind massage, but after I pop one off to a sexy little thing, the last thing I want is some fat blind guy touching me all over.
I think there are better anma's with better facilities than this one (the one directly across looks great. I'm leaving Sunday so I'm going to hit that one up tomorrow. I'll try to write a report if I get a chance.)
As for foreigner friendliness, not sure, didn't ask. I will wish you guys happy hunting. If only service was this great back home. [/QUOTE]
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Avoid
[QUOTE=Le Lion;1100917]Does anyone have any experience with the little bit older slim woman who works at Mississippi on the hill? I'm usually not in to milfs but if she is worth it, I'll give it a go.[/QUOTE]Avoid this fucking * like the plague! Unless you want to waste your money and be severely disappointed.
Case in point-my buddy owed me one, wanted to pay, she was available, I wasn't really into it, so let me sum it up:
Clock watcher, lots of "I'm tired" (after 6 minutes-I usually set my watch which she told me must have fallen on the floor and be off, which is hilarious because its a digital G-shock LOL) , lots of 'don't touch here', only use her condoms (I always bring my own because Korean condoms don't fit my cock size) , lots of 'you finish now', 'you take to long', which according to my watch was 18 minutes into it.
After 26 minutes of her complaining I had finally had enough and just got up and began to put my clothes on. She began telling me that I was too drunk, to which I replied I had not had a drink all night (true) she was just a lousy fuck.
Honestly I don't know how this lady stays in business. I guess ripping off guys is good business.
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[QUOTE=Georges Orwell; 1094130]Thanks for your answer.
Ah yes this famous list. I also did same, but in the area I mentionned, many are down, or if by chance you find one place, there is a big chance to be blocked at the entrance. Around gangnam is more foreigner friendly. But anyway recently I found a place near hapjong station with great service from simple HJ to FS, you can choose. Also I saw several people talking about Cleopatra in sinchon. You should try IVY, its not far. Young girls are naked, massage, then HJ / real BJ / HJ. I will give more information later if some people are interested. [/QUOTE]Do you think you could provide a few suggestions for places around gangnam station?
Thanks!
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Cheongnyangi RLD
Visited Cheongnyangni RLD at 2 AM. It was at full force. 97% of the shops were open and looking extremely bright. Saw a lot of new faces as well, and now there are several girls who are dressed in schoolgirl outfits.
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Trip
This is my first time out to Seoul. I will be around Jongrogu. Where should I go? What should I do around that area? Or do I need to go to Itawean for any nightlife.
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Belle number
Hey,
Could someone PM me the phone number for Belle?
Thanks!
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Do the Coffee Delivery girls still exist?
I have read a few reports (old ones) of the coffee delivery girls.
Does anyone know if they still exist and if so any contact information?
Thanks
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Grand Hyatt hotel
Any action now in the bar of this hotel?
I read in the past were active some escort in nightbar?
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[QUOTE=Nightcrimson; 1105606]I have read a few reports (old ones) of the coffee delivery girls.
Does anyone know if they still exist and if so any contact information?
Thanks[/QUOTE]If you can read Korean, you want to look for signs or business cards with the word "Dah-bahng." It's an old word for "cafe" that has pretty much phased out and is only used in reference to coffee joints where girls serve / deliver and sometimes offer extras on top of that.
They are still around, but mostly outside of Seoul. It's rare to find any in the city, since there are so many other options with BBSs and Anma. Contact numbers? There's not a central switchboard for these places, and you're talking about a pretty big city here. I suggest you do some pavement pounding and find a few on your own.
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Yongsan RLD News
Stopped by the RLD and was just looking around. I noticed that a number of the shops were closed and / or torn down. A-Row is only a handful of windows, and B-Row is even fewer. I asked one of the girls if this is because of the LE factor, and she said yes. I asked if they were going to finish shutting down and destroying the rest of the shops, and she said it would be complete within a month.
So, in 2011, Yongsan RLD will be no more.
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[QUOTE=Looking Inrok; 1105829]If you can read Korean, you want to look for signs or business cards with the word "Dah-bahng." It's an old word for "cafe" that has pretty much phased out and is only used in reference to coffee joints where girls serve / deliver and sometimes offer extras on top of that.
They are still around, but mostly outside of Seoul. It's rare to find any in the city, since there are so many other options with BBSs and Anma. Contact numbers? There's not a central switchboard for these places, and you're talking about a pretty big city here. I suggest you do some pavement pounding and find a few on your own. [/QUOTE]Thanks for that. Seems like there are easier options available. As interesting as a coffee girl sounds I really am not in to putting so much effort in to it. Perhaps Starbucks should introduce this!
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[QUOTE=Looking Inrok; 1105830]Stopped by the RLD and was just looking around. I noticed that a number of the shops were closed and / or torn down. A-Row is only a handful of windows, and B-Row is even fewer. I asked one of the girls if this is because of the LE factor, and she said yes. I asked if they were going to finish shutting down and destroying the rest of the shops, and she said it would be complete within a month.
So, in 2011, Yongsan RLD will be no more. [/QUOTE]Yea, I would estimate over 3/4 of the places had the front plate glass windows busted out. Without that, none of the SPs will work in this type of weather. The street looks like the result of the beef demonstrations. Went to 588 Wednesday night, was ignored by all.
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Mvix
Anyone here prescribe for MVIX? Looking at costs, but was quoted a high price for doctor visit + medication. Wondering where / how much you pay.
Cheers
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Barber poles near Seoul St
I'm a frequent traveler to Seoul, go there almost every month and, usually, I look for a different thing every time I go.
I'm more like Frank M and the other guy who had some pictures of unknown places: I like to be adventurous and try different stuff off the beaten path. For instance, Itaweon is a no go place for me.
Always walking around Seoul St, I saw the barber poles on the avenue that goes to city center and Nandemun market, but never tried (knowing that around stations it can be bad). However, this time, I decided to take one for the team here.
If you are at Seoul St, go to the subway level and look for Exit 4. Out of Exit 4, walk straight, and you'll see one barber pole: didn't try this place, since it looked quite legit, I mean, a gym or a sauna with nothing special.
Walk few meters more, and you'll see a double barber pole, with "sports massage" in it (in Korean). The entrance is in the little street on the side. 2nd floor.
Went up, knocked on the door, and was greeted by two old ladies (ajuma) : one in her 60s, other in her mid 40s. They were very happy to see me, and started asking me to come in. Inside there was a barber chair but a curtain revealed the other side: a massage bed in a darker room.
They started discussing who would take care of me (I can understand some Korean) , and I was expecting the younger one, since she was quite interesting for a mid 40s. Being myself a mediterranean european at mid 30s, and Koreans don't age much, I was happy about it.
Discussion over, the younger one comes, with a big smile, and saying that I was very handsome.
Obs. : I'm not handsome, but I'm good looking. I take care of myself, hair cut, shave, perfume. And to all you there who complain about being shown the door when stepping into a korean venue, here is my 1 cent: dress well. If you go there in jeans and running shoes, they will probably ask you to leave. Now, I'm always wearing a suit and even a tie when I go to these places. And I was never refused anything. Think about it, boys.
Undress, keep underwear, lay on the table face up. She washes my feet and asks me to be face down. Then, starts a massage that was quite ok. If you've been to real massage places, you know when they are professional, and when they are not. This lady was not, but it was relaxing, anyway. I tell her it was very good, she laughs and kiss me on my cheek. I know something good will happen.
Finished, turn face up. She dims the light down, massage my neck and shoulders. Then, put her face closer to mine and gently kiss my lips (no DFK, just a little touch) , and say I'm handsome. I reply saying she is beautiful.
She brings some hot towels. Puts my underwear down, compliments me for my size (average, not big) , and clean it with the towel. Then, she also cleans my hands (a sign that I can use them).
Then, she starts a slow HJ, while licking my nipples and belly, with enthusiasm. She then puts her blouse up revealing her small but firm boobs, and puts my hand on them. I start touching and approach my mouth to lick them, to which she presses my head against her body, and seems to enjoy it. I start touching her butt and, to my surprise, she raises her skirt and puts her panties down, allowing me to touch, kiss and bite her soft ass.
From there, she makes me lay down again, and starts a nice BBBJ. I continue to touch her, reaching her front. I have to stop her, cause I was almost getting there. She smiles, I get closer to her lips and kiss her. She starts kisssing and licking my neck while HJing, I lay down, back to BBBJ and, when I'm almost there, she switches to HJ, very very slowly, and I can't resist. Now, I'm no Peter North, but I can unload a pretty good amount of fluid there: it goes everywhere: my belly, her arm, her shirt. She is surprised, starts laughing, and say that I'm strong. Funny.
She then leaves, cleans me when come back, and while I'm dressing up again, she brings me a vitamin (these energy drinks). All smiles to me.
She asks me to come back, maybe I will, maybe not. When I leave, the old one (who seemed younger than what she really was) tells me next time is hers. Well, why not? All for the experience.
Damage was 70k. Interesting experience.
Obs. : I'm failing to find nuru massage places in Seoul. Hotel Capital used to have it, doesn't have it anymore. Does anyone know where to find it?
Cheers,
Sauro
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[QUOTE=Sauro07;1106133]Obs. : I'm failing to find nuru massage places in Seoul. Hotel Capital used to have it, doesn't have it anymore. Does anyone know where to find it? [/QUOTE]Most anmas incorporate some type of it, but not for the duration of your visit. It's usually a preview before you make your way to the bed.
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[QUOTE=Nightcrimson; 1105606]I have read a few reports (old ones) of the coffee delivery girls.
Does anyone know if they still exist and if so any contact information?
Thanks[/QUOTE]The coffee girls still exist, but its not what it used to be 10 years ago, and certainly not like the old reports on this board.
Here's an example of what you get today. I don't understand what this guy is talking about with the ticket. Even the Korean's comments don't understand what's with all the ticket ticket he keeps talking about. As you can see there's no service provided. You're paying for a girl to sit and talk with you for ten minutes and she's out.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=[/url]%EB%8B%A4%EB%B0%A9&aq=f
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[QUOTE=Sauro07;1106133]And to all you there who complain about being shown the door when stepping into a korean venue, here is my 1 cent: dress well. If you go there in jeans and running shoes, they will probably ask you to leave. Now, I'm always wearing a suit and even a tie when I go to these places. And I was never refused anything. Think about it, boys.[/QUOTE]Perhaps a little overdress for a barber shop I'd say but I've never heard of anyone being refused entrance at any BS in Seoul especially the ones with 40 year old providers. Try gaining access to an upscale anma with a prime time provider in Seoul with this kind of ease and you sure will impress the masses.
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Thick Thighs
Sunday night on the hill was REALLY quiet. Most of the bars were closed, only a few near the top of the hill were open. We walked by Capital (2-3 girls) , but for the first time in my roaming days we were told not to come in. My theory: We had passed by the bar a few minutes before, coming back down the hill, and we ran into a German guy who stumbled out of Old Towne bombed out of his tree, with two Korean coworkers. He latched on to us as we went back to the bottom of the hill, proceeded to throw a glass of rum and coke at a car when the driver honked at us, and wandered up towards Peachfuzz and tried to pull the door off its hinges (fortunately it was locked). When we went back up the hill the ladies in Capital refused to let us in. Guilty by association perhaps? Oh well.
On to the Thick Thighs, for those who like the pear-shaped, this girl would have to be the most uniquely shaped Korean woman I have ever seen. She has a slender upper body but flares out dramatically from the waist. Serious Curves! I swear at 5'2" she was a 32-28-36+, with thighs that were thicker than any legs I've ever seen on a woman. So. If you are into that look, she is available. Her name is Bin, and she works in the bar next to ABC (its Madrid, isn't it?) last night with another woman who is thick and busty too (MiSo, if you are interested.) She was saying it would be 150. Enjoy the flavour.
My latest run was uneventful, but a few weeks ago, during the daytime on a Sunday, I was lured into ABC, found one woman, fairly tall, slender body, enticing B-cup breasts that may have been artificial, but skillfully done, tatoo on her back, mid 30s. And she is completely shaved. The body was more attractive than her face, but she was nice enough to talk to, and I got a BBBJ and DATY for 80 (Sunday afternoon special) , with the promise I would return. I didn't yet, but I will, I want to see how much more mileage I can get, and I like shaved.
Enjoy boys.
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Sports massage without dbp
There is a sports massage place near my place. But there is no barber pole. Is it a genuine massage place?
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In town briefly
Anyone want to meet up for a beer?
I'm usually in the Osaka (Japan) section but am going to be in town visiting a mate of mine. Dunno what he has planned yet but I'm keen to meet up with whoever wants to grab a beer. Trade stories etc etc. PM me if you're keen. In town from Wed 29th to 1st. Hatguy
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Motel girls
I've read these threads quite a bit and there has been a lot of good work about providers. But as a general knowledge thing, I don't see information about the market rates of the girls you get from the business cards at love motels. What's to be expected there?
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[QUOTE=Tetragon;1106661]I've read these threads quite a bit and there has been a lot of good work about providers. But as a general knowledge thing, I don't see information about the market rates of the girls you get from the business cards at love motels. What's to be expected there?[/QUOTE]Expect to be scammed.
You will be over charged 300% for a very ugly or old woman.
Gangsters also use this technique to rob guys. They send you a girl and she calls for food delivery and then goes into the bathroom when the gangsters arrive posing as delivery boys; they crash into your room, beat you down and take your cash, phone etc.
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[QUOTE=Looking Inrok; 1105830]Stopped by the RLD and was just looking around. I noticed that a number of the shops were closed and / or torn down. A-Row is only a handful of windows, and B-Row is even fewer. I asked one of the girls if this is because of the LE factor, and she said yes. I asked if they were going to finish shutting down and destroying the rest of the shops, and she said it would be complete within a month.
So, in 2011, Yongsan RLD will be no more. [/QUOTE]Looks like it's taking longer than I expected. I'm kind of sad that Yongsan's RLD will be no longer, although I always had unsatisfying results there with the A-row girls. They were serious time-watchers and like robots, and they would ask me "are you done?" during the middle of the sex constantly. Actually, it's like this in Cheongnyangni as well.
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Cindy on the hill
Kinda tall chick. A little disappointing tits. But still it wasnt bad for 100 000. She tried to get me to pay 300 000 to start with! Special discount my arse. Wednesday night and no punters. Will see what there is tonight in the way of tits! Hatguy
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Fish Alley: Pretty Ketty
This was awhile back, but I always catch a glance at this place when I head up to the Hill. So I venture in.
For quick beer. The girl there was talkative and more than a few times cupped my nuts. It got me midly aroused, and I was going to see what kind of price she was looking for, but I had an engagement, so, I made my exit. She seemed lonely as hell and wanted to talk. And talk.
Has anyone done the deed with her? How much did she charge?
I have been to NO1 at the top of the Hill, and the girl there is really sweet, with a cute rear and thin tight body. The couch setup was a pain though, and just not conducive to a good time, but I didn't last long hitting it from behind. Be nice to her, she is probably the most pleasant girl I have had on the Hill.
Everytime I am up at the top I see a few places to the right. Green, some place with Japanese charaters, some pink place and a few others, but I have never ventured in and there is no mention, if any, of those places.
Anyone seen the talent there?
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Top of the Hill
[QUOTE=Daviddawkins; 1107268]Everytime I am up at the top I see a few places to the right. Green, some place with Japanese charaters, some pink place and a few others, but I have never ventured in and there is no mention, if any, of those places.
Anyone seen the talent there? [/QUOTE]As far as I remember, the place with the Japanese characters is a transexual bar. I think it says "Trans bar" or something like that in English below the Japanese. I walked by there once before and there was a he-she standing outside. Keep in mind, this bar is located more towards Homo Hill than Hooker Hill.
As far as Pink and Green bars, whenever I poked my head in those places there were nothing but gross fatties. Shamrock bar, on the other hand, had a cute girl one time, and another time I found a chubby girl that wasn't terrible. Don't remember names, though.
This info is at least four months old, so feel free to venture up there one night and prove me wrong.
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[QUOTE=Ezinho; 1107339]As far as I remember, the place with the Japanese characters is a transexual bar.
As far as Pink and Green bars, whenever I poked my head in those places there were nothing but gross fatties. Shamrock bar, on the other hand, had a cute girl one time, and another time I found a chubby girl that wasn't terrible.[/QUOTE]I thought that the bar with japanese characters was a regular bar. It looks to have a lot of money spent on upkeep relative to the other places. I happened to be in the neighborhood and noticed that there is a new "trans"bar across from stompers. It used to be a straight bar. What is happening to the Hill? Is it being taken over?
Shamrock? The names of these places change all the time. But mind you I don't mind the chubbies once in awhile, so It isn't too bad.
I am still quite curious about the girl at "Pretty Ketty". Up the hill from sultan kabob. No one has been there?
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[QUOTE=Ilandman;1106229]On to the Thick Thighs, for those who like the pear-shaped, this girl would have to be the most uniquely shaped Korean woman I have ever seen. She has a slender upper body but flares out dramatically from the waist. Serious Curves! I swear at 5'2" she was a 32-28-36+, with thighs that were thicker than any legs I've ever seen on a woman. So. If you are into that look, she is available. Her name is Bin, and she works in the bar next to ABC (its Madrid, isn't it?) last night with another woman who is thick and busty too (MiSo, if you are interested.) She was saying it would be 150. Enjoy the flavour.[/QUOTE]Bin's put on weight? *sigh* She always had that fabulous ass, but now she's packing it on lower down, too? Disappointing. Tiny girl with junk in the trunk, great. Short little weeble, not so much.
And don't bother with the other one. Barracuda. The two scammed me for a threeway last time I was with Bin. I'd already been with Bin for a while at that point, she was getting tired, and we negotiated bringing in her friend as a substitute hitter. She shows up, took my money, rubbed my ass a little while I continued a bit with Bin, then buggered off never to come back. Not impressed.
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[QUOTE=Daviddawkins;1108001]....I happened to be in the neighborhood and noticed that there is a new "trans"bar across from stompers. It used to be a straight bar. What is happening to the Hill? Is it being taken over?[/QUOTE]I was a soldier stationed in Korea in 1991. The Stars and Stripes newspaper ran an article about one of the Itaewon bars that was busted for having all trannies posing as female entertainment. One of the guys in my unit claimed to have taken many of them when he saw the photo. Funny how he retracted his statement when we showed him the article associated with it. . It is sad to see that this kind of BS and the high prices have replaced the great mongering of the past in Korea. I have seen it posted many times before, and I have to agree that it is better to save your money for a trip to the Philippines or Thailand. Yes, they have trannies also, but at least the price of mongering is reasonable.
HW
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1110334]It is sad to see that this kind of BS and the high prices have replaced the great mongering of the past in Korea.[/quote]Yeah, no shit. Ever check out the estworld141 website? They have the nerve to charge $450 for 90 minutes. Plus, most of the photos are stolen from other sites, and the first 30 testimonials or so were obviously written by the site owners (EDIT: I take that back; I looked a bit closer and the vast majority of reviews are written by the non-native English speaking site owners). Who can trust a service to lie so much then charge such a premium? Christ, $450's enough to pay for my plane ticket to Thailand.
[quote]it is better to save your money for a trip to the Philippines or Thailand. Yes, they have trannies also, but at least the price of mongering is reasonable.[/QUOTE]And as long as you don't go home with a SW, they are usually pretty upfront about being ladyboys, and (usually) don't try to take advantage of the naive. The SWs, though, are a whole other breed, preying on drunk guys who can't tell the difference.
Just got back from LOS and it was great. Didn't stick around the usual mongering sites because it wasn't that kind of holiday, but I did indulge on my one night in BKK. Cheap, quality, no nonsense, no special price for the farang. Seoul and Beijing are miles away from such service.
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Hey all,
I found this place after doing a search for Bugsby. Recently went there with my Korean friend and was looking for info, but doesn't seem to be much. Been to a few other room salons near Gangnam / Yeoksam.
I've mostly been going to clubs, booking and regular. But those are more serious "relationships", and just looking for something fun.
My internship just ended so I'm free for the next few weeks, living in Gangnam, with cash but no place to spend it. Any one want to meet up?
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More info on this place, Cactus?
[QUOTE=Cactusthief;1106254]There is a sports massage place near my place. But there is no barber pole. Is it a genuine massage place?[/QUOTE]Can you provide more info on the location? It can (or cannot) be legit.
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Near Icheon Airport
Could some one please provide name of the place within 15/30 minutes from ICN airport for a quick action.
Thanks in advance
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[QUOTE=Le Lion;1069407]It's true, I also have a Korean friend who spent 3 months in jail after being jumped by a guy in Hongdae because he was talking to his girlfriend. My friend broke the guy's arm when he wrestled him down. So the rule is 1. Never get in to fights in Korea 2. If someone wants to fight you, try to get away from there asap.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the advice, but foreigners are becoming quite panzi here. Korean guys are mostly bark. If they give you trouble, just play with them, use sarcasm. They'll know you are screwing with them, but their culture doesn't really include vague mocking-facades. If one must fight just push him and hold him down until he submits. Time to end the wimpiness.
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit; 1081264]Not to deviate from the P4P scene here, and digress back to local pick up, with negating the Korean male cock-block, but some practical advice would be appreciated. Recently, my local pickups have led to a steady rotation of GFE experiences, with minimal cash being dropped. One can argue the merits and demerits of each, however, I have been growing tired of limited GFE encounters with SP's and enjoy new variety. Moreover, although it is nice not to have to wear protection, even locals have their potential risks. Either way I am going to enjoy my current successes, before eventually returning back to regular P4P action. That being said, I would appreciate some advice on how to counteract the Korean male clock-block in public situations (from preferably Expats in Korea who truly understand the culture).
Example A:
Express Bus outside of Seoul (2 hour non-stop route). Young, cute 22 year University student wearing hot shorts sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. She glances over occasionally, curious about the foreigner. Young Korean male gets on bus, although bus virtually empty, he sits in front of girl. He proceeds to blast his music via his MP3 loudspeaker, and talk loudly on the phone. I wait until he sleeps, and lean over to ask the girl to show me where we are located on my navigation map on iPhone. She moves over to sit beside me and we play 'challenge' games on my phone, and watch Korean videos on youtube. We exchange numbers, just as Korean male wakes up and stares up down, causing her to feel uncomfortable, and move back to her seat. He proceeds to call his friends and trash talk how the foreigner tried to pick up Korean girls on the bus. She feels more uncomfortable ('losing face') , and won't return back to seat beside me. We get off the bus, and I say goodbye to her with her telling me to call her later. The Korean male is observing the whole time, and follows her in the shopping mall, as I go catch a taxi. I double-back and watch him open a door for her, and start talking to her, just envisioning what cock-block statements pour out (e. G. Watch out for foreigners, he's a player, etc. Etc.). She doesn't respond to my texts (except Holiday greeting sent).
Example B:
Express Bus 2 hours outside of Seoul (different location). Sexy, young office worker wearing short skirt, and little too much makeup sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. 1 minute left before empty bus leaves, older Korean fisherman gets on and sits directly across from her, and behind me. I politely ask him to move so I can lean back, but he refuses (obviously wants to check out her nice rack while simultaneously blocking me). I re-position myself in another seat. She looks really bored and keeps looking over at me, smiling and playing with her phone. Fisherman starts nodding off, but wakes up every-time I attempt to make moves (e. G. Take picture out window beside her of ocean view) , staring me down. Eventually, I move to the back row of the bus, sprawl out and try to take a nap (having my stinky feet literally inches away from his head) , with direct vision of her in front me. She accidentally drops something, so I ask if she is ok (in Korean). I proceed to give her a snack from my bag, to which stares ensue from fisherman, so I give him one too (which completely confuses him as he throws it on to the seat beside him not uttering a word). Later, I ask her if she enjoyed the snack, to which she smiles and offers me candies. Again, fisherman shoots look of death at us, so she offers one to him too. I start playing 'cute' games on my iPhone, she becomes interested, so I lean forward and I show her how to play. Fisherman hate stares resume, and she starts to feel uncomfortable. At this point, I should have told her to come sit behind with me, but fisherman would just turn around and continue his blocking. When we got off the bus, she said goodbye and smiled, and my sense was she wanted me to walk off with her. Lo and behold, fisherman immediately got up behind her, and escorted her to the bathroom. He even waited outside the bathroom to ensure that I wouldn't wait for her to finish! (Keep in mind: He had NO idea who she was).
Now the rationale behind posting this exchange (rather than the typical steamy play by play on here) is I would value advice on how to deflect the cock-block without directly confronting the Korean male (cultural taboo) and making the target 'lose face'. In bar, club, or even subway situations, I have this handled (move to another location) , but can't figure out to counteract this one. [/QUOTE]What I would do in Korea was to play along, like a lampoon from Airport the movie. The Koreans don't have this kind of humor, but it can be followed if done silly. This will put the racist in his tracks and elevates you with the woman because you didn't go for the bait (anger). Incidentally, I may just have a canned line to anger him and move on, depending on the situation. Some Korean women have these men around so they can just enjoy the music or tend to their man-herd (something I'm not accosumted to in Asia). The woman can tease without worrying about male attention and the man can harass foreigners.
P. S. Jackson should be aware that there are professional Korean racist groups that infiltrate these kind of sites (think English Spectrum). They report them to the Korean authorities and have been known to glean information from such sites and make Nazi-esque documentaries, or failing that, commit cyber attacks, I kid you not.
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Cracking down on Kiss Rooms
In their annual sweep to "clean up the streets", LEO is targeting the Kiss Rooms this time.
[url]http://asiancorrespondent.com/46581/kiss-rooms-raided/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Jesterl;1114686]If one must fight just push him and hold him down until he submits. Time to end the wimpiness.[/QUOTE]Nope. That just gives his friends time to keep you there till the police arrive (assuming they don't jump you while you're "submitting" their friend; Koreans are like Thais. They LOVE their 5-on-1 beatdowns) and him the opportunity to claim you injured his arm (his doctor will confirm it) , and you will be out of pocket for several million in blood money, which you'll pay or go to jail.
If you MUST fight (can't avoid it for whatever reason) , fight dirty and high tail it immediately. Kick to the balls, suckerpunch to break the nose, then leg it. Course, if they know who you are or where you work / live, this is bad idea because then you're back to paying blood money once the police track you down.
It's got nothing to do with being "panzi" (sic) or wimpiness. When it comes to fights, Korean police always come down on the side of the Korean. The foreigner always loses. To whit: (1) A former co-worker walking down the street with his fiancee got jumped by 6 guys in Hongdae who didn't like that a "pervert foreigner" was holding hands with a "pure Korean woman". The 6 attackers were allowed to leave immediately, my co-worker was arrested and spent the night in jail. (2) A former colleague had his head bashed in with a pipe (a premeditated and unprovoked act) , got staples in his head, nearly died, the whole bit. The police let the attacker go and kept my friend-still bleeding profusely-in the police station for 6 hours to answer questions while they debated whether or not to book him. THEN they took him to the hospital.
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Coitus68 is absolutely right. In any kind of legal incident in Korea, the foreigner is automatically "at fault." I had a coworker that had his home broken into. He caught the guy and forcibly held him until the police arrived. When they came in, he said they instructed his wife to serve coffee to them and the crook, while questioning him about his methods to keep the crook around for them. He was warned that he could spend time in jail if the guy wanted to press charges for assault.
As badly as the Koreans treat all foreigners, I think we would all be smart to move out and let North Korea overrun these conceited bastards in the south.
IMHO
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[QUOTE=Coitus68; 1114701]Nope. That just gives his friends time to keep you there till the police arrive (assuming they don't jump you while you're "submitting" their friend; Koreans are like Thais. They LOVE their 5-on-1 beatdowns) and him the opportunity to claim you injured his arm (his doctor will confirm it) , and you will be out of pocket for several million in blood money, which you'll pay or go to jail.
If you MUST fight (can't avoid it for whatever reason) , fight dirty and high tail it immediately. Kick to the balls, suckerpunch to break the nose, then leg it. Course, if they know who you are or where you work / live, this is bad idea because then you're back to paying blood money once the police track you down.
It's got nothing to do with being "panzi" (sic) or wimpiness. When it comes to fights, Korean police always come down on the side of the Korean. The foreigner always loses. To whit: (1) A former co-worker walking down the street with his fiancee got jumped by 6 guys in Hongdae who didn't like that a "pervert foreigner" was holding hands with a "pure Korean woman". The 6 attackers were allowed to leave immediately, my co-worker was arrested and spent the night in jail. (2) A former colleague had his head bashed in with a pipe (a premeditated and unprovoked act) , got staples in his head, nearly died, the whole bit. The police let the attacker go and kept my friend-still bleeding profusely-in the police station for 6 hours to answer questions while they debated whether or not to book him. THEN they took him to the hospital. [/QUOTE]Point taken. In Japan, the foreigner often loses too, but the police won't fight frustrated men's battles. I've known foreigners really act rudely and not be arrested. It was seen as clowny fun as an adolescent and he was let go, no booking. I just can't get over the idea that foreigners in Korea are seen as wimps that won't fight back. The Koreans are bigger than Japanese now (though still smaller than us) , have been told we did nothing to protect or develop their economy.
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[QUOTE=Jesterl;1115027]Point taken. In Japan, the foreigner often loses too, but the police won't fight frustrated men's battles.[/QUOTE]Japanese police are a whole other animal from the Korean Keystone Kops. When I lived in Japan, the last thing I wanted to happen was be arrested and hauled in to a Japanese police station. You don't raise your voice with them or give them any reason whatsoever to arrest you, or you'll find yourself in jail cell being held anywhere from 30-60 days without being allowed to contact counsel or embassy.
OTOH, I've seen people spit on, slap, kick, and hit Korean cops, and the cops DID NOTHING, just got in their car and drove off, allowing them to continue doing what they were doing to have the cop stop them in the first place. They're an impotent joke (except when they wish to screw the foreigner).
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First time visitor to seoul
I'll be Seoul on business for a few in weeks in February and have never been there. When possible usually go to Philippines or HK.
Not familiar with parts of city yet and have been trying to read the reviews here but not getting where som of the best places are to go for a full service massage.
If you can help and give me some names, locations and prices to a non-korean speaking newbie her I would appreciate it.
Thanks
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Joke is right, except.
[QUOTE=Coitus68; 1115043]Japanese police are a whole other animal from the Korean Keystone Kops. When I lived in Japan, the last thing I wanted to happen was be arrested and hauled in to a Japanese police station. You don't raise your voice with them or give them any reason whatsoever to arrest you, or you'll find yourself in jail cell being held anywhere from 30-60 days without being allowed to contact counsel or embassy.
OTOH, I've seen people spit on, slap, kick, and hit Korean cops, and the cops DID NOTHING, just got in their car and drove off, allowing them to continue doing what they were doing to have the cop stop them in the first place. They're an impotent joke (except when they wish to screw the foreigner). [/QUOTE]I can't comment on the Jap police having never been there, but I can tell you with the utmost assurance as I know several CID guys that all is video recorded if it happens on the street.
Most don't know that virtually on every street light is a video camera and the police are recording. If you are truly the victim, then the US Embassy will back you vs. The Korean police. You have to be squeaky clean though, I. E. Not coming out of a *house and getting into a fight. That is advice straight from the US police here (yes they are here).
OTOH, I am tired of all the cock blocking bullshit from these K guys. I mean Jesus, are these guys really that insecure? For some reason, the K guys have taken the cock block to a whole new level. My buddy doesn't seem to mind though, he just ignores them and keeps up his game with the chick and eventually she gives up the digits. Then they hook up for later without the blocker (s) around. I have personally watched this 4-5 times, and he scored with every chick. Although he told me one was a complete dud.
I guess my advice would be to act like they are not there and continue with the game plan. One K guy shouted to me in a bar,"I am Police! This is my girlfriend!" To which the girl replied that she didn't know the guy. Still, he grabbed her arm and led her away forcibly from me at the bar. At that point it was 3am and I was like,"WTF". I could of cared less, but still it pissed me off later when I was thinking about it. So when I saw him outside the bar after closing time, he approached me and I asked him if he felt like Superman. He responded with suprise, and I told him he was going flying down the subway stairs. His response? He ran off like a scared little girl. Guys, man up and don't fall the K guys bullshit. Not inciting violence here, just stand up for yourself.
After a horrible hill visit (see MILF) and some disappointing K girl freebies, I am back to fucking American girls. A little bit bigger, but the pussy is still good. Just not great.
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[QUOTE=Carmex;1116396]If you are truly the victim, then the US Embassy will back you vs. The Korean police.[/QUOTE]No they won't. They will provide you a lawyer, who will make sure your rights are not being trampled, but the embassy won't "back you". They will not interfere in the laws and enforcement of those laws of another sovereign country.
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The Hill
I went to see Cherry in Happy Days on the hill tonight. I can highly recommend her to anyone, especially if you like big tits, she has a great pair. I think she is a great fuck too, and really nice.
I was also tempted by a blond girl at the bar called Moon Shine. Has anyone been with her? I think she will be my next target, but would be fun to hear if someone has any experience with her.
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Hello, I am a gyopo and I am personally upset if any Korean cockblocked you
There are too many opportunities for everyone here. Why do people have so much energy to waste being jealous and cockblocking. Don't worry about the cockblocking and just be creative about this. Don't give up so easily and think of a new and interesting approach to girls. There is no one perfect answer as far as approach and if you make a reasonable effort then at least they will have coffee or dinner with you. Just care about her and listen carefully. Sometimes the "English teacher wild card" approach always works because they are trying to get a job throught their high TOEIC tests. Go read Cosmopolitan magazine or Korean fashion magazines and just try to know what their interests are. This is much easier than in the states. Just get their curiosity and your curiosity. Love and sex is all about curiosity.
This is my 2 cents.
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Kelly
Had a good session with Kelly in Best bar up on the Hill. Early 30's (which I really like) , nice little A-cups and a cute face. She deep throats like a champ and she squirts when she cums. Lovely wet pussy and she let me CIM to finish. Getting horny just thinking about it!
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[QUOTE=Carmex; 1116396]I can't comment on the Jap police having never been there, but I can tell you with the utmost assurance as I know several CID guys that all is video recorded if it happens on the street.
Most don't know that virtually on every street light is a video camera and the police are recording. If you are truly the victim, then the US Embassy will back you vs. The Korean police. You have to be squeaky clean though, I. E. Not coming out of a *house and getting into a fight. That is advice straight from the US police here (yes they are here).
OTOH, I am tired of all the cock blocking bullshit from these K guys. I mean Jesus, are these guys really that insecure? For some reason, the K guys have taken the cock block to a whole new level. My buddy doesn't seem to mind though, he just ignores them and keeps up his game with the chick and eventually she gives up the digits. Then they hook up for later without the blocker (s) around. I have personally watched this 4-5 times, and he scored with every chick. Although he told me one was a complete dud.
I guess my advice would be to act like they are not there and continue with the game plan. One K guy shouted to me in a bar,"I am Police! This is my girlfriend!" To which the girl replied that she didn't know the guy. Still, he grabbed her arm and led her away forcibly from me at the bar. At that point it was 3am and I was like,"WTF". I could of cared less, but still it pissed me off later when I was thinking about it. So when I saw him outside the bar after closing time, he approached me and I asked him if he felt like Superman. He responded with suprise, and I told him he was going flying down the subway stairs. His response? He ran off like a scared little girl. Guys, man up and don't fall the K guys bullshit. Not inciting violence here, just stand up for yourself.
After a horrible hill visit (see MILF) and some disappointing K girl freebies, I am back to fucking American girls. A little bit bigger, but the pussy is still good. Just not great.[/QUOTE]Hello,
I have never been to korea. But, it sounds like a crazy place. What is cockblock? If I can ask you. What are korean guys doing to foreigners? Can I guess, do you mean, when you try to talk to a korean girl, the other korean guys who don't know this girl, don't want you a foreigner to talk to korean women? Is that what you mean?
If this is the case, then yell back at these korean guys, who are being the ass hole. You should be even more determined to talk to korean women. Never let them get the upper hand.
I have traveled all over asia, japan, taiwan, Thailand, China, phillippines for mongering. I am Taiwanese my self. I have never heard of anyone trying to block another guy from talking to a woman. Of course, I have never been to korea. Maybe I don't want to give korea my business now.
Of course, in my humble opinion, you should not start a fist fight in a foreign country. But, don't back down, or let them yell at you, you yell back. And You out stair them. You go talk to any women you like. Don't let these weirdos mess with you.
Good luck
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Last Month report
Just thought I should write a report on when I visited the Cheongnyangni RLD early last month. I've visited Cheongnyangni several times in the past and all of them were pretty disappointing visits because the girls are seriously like robots. Anyway there was a huge selection of new faces. I found this one really young-looking girl who was incredibly cute. Normally I go for girls with hot bodies specifically big natural tits (if you read my past reports, you will know I'm a boobs man). But I decided to let this one slide because her face was really cute and I couldn't resist it.
So I walk in and she welcomes me. As usual I gave her 70, 000won as we sat on her bed and chatted a bit. She asked me if I wanted a shower which was the first time I've experienced this in my RLD trips. In all my RLD visits, the girls will usually wipe my groin area with wet tissue or bring in a bucket of water / soap and wash my dick.
I already showered before I came so I declined. After we got naked, she literally threw me down to her bed and it was the usual session: licking my nipples, blowjob without condom (usually in Cheongnyangni it's BJ with condom) , and then she got on top of me and rode me. Her pussy was awfully tight and it was actually hurting my johnson. She tried to kiss me as well which was odd for me since it normally never happens. She was sweating all over her back and I figured she was getting tried, so we switched to doggy for awhile and then I finished her missionary although it seriously took me awhile to cum (she didn't seem to be in a rush though).
In my previous RLD experiences, after our session the girl will usually clean my dick with wet tissue or with a bucket of water / soap. But none of those were around so she told me to go in the shower room and wash myself. We chatted and laughed afterwards. She told me she's been working at the RLD for one year, but that's got to be untrue since I've never seen her face before in the past. After my time was up she actually walked me to the exit which was a shocker. Usually, the girls will leave the room and go back to sitting on the chair to wait for more customers when you're getting dressed up. Surprising. In conclusion, as much as she is really cute and her manners were very pleasing and kind, the sex wasn't anything special and I actually had to try to force myself to cum as odd as it might sound.
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[QUOTE=Candid Asians; 1022670]Gen X, my buddies and are in Seoul (staying in Mapo Gu) for a few days. We are 30 yrs old and went to hongdae last night. It was shitty. Lot of hot girls but they were too young for us. We got snobbed so many times. I am familiar with some of the clubbing scenes, but please can we link up. We want to check out some action.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Your age shouldn't be a no-gamer. My guys were mid-20s and also had trouble, even with decent Korean ability. The girls on the street are just harder, younger and less English knowledgeable. Try some of the clubs. Stay clear of the hip hop clubs (unless your black, in which case the locals will make, somewhat, of an exception).
P. S. I came to Korea this summer, so I don't know how the old days were. Do people think picking up was better in the past? If so, how long ago, how so, and how did it end? In Japan, I've noticed days were better seven years ago. I think it had to do with fads though.
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior;1095590]Relatively tall for a Korean; black hair (what else?) and, these days, a little pleasingly plump; attractive face w/ large eyes but no kewpie doll or great beauty.[/QUOTE]What time of day / night are you seeing this girl? It isn't Janie, is it? If she's back, I'll definitely stop by for a visit. If it's Janie, she worked at Cheers, and briefly at Ing bar. She's missed.
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[QUOTE=Abuasian1;1095570]Well I was browsing through the search again and I happened to find a report on a girl at itaewon by the name of Jina/Gina who also has natural D cup breasts. I was wondering if she's still at the hill? The last report on her was around February, and I believe she's been working there for a real long time as reports of her date back since 2003.[/QUOTE]There is a Gina / Jina that works at V. I. P. (formerly ROYAL) in the evenings after 9pm or so until sun-up. That's one of the names she goes by, I think.
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[QUOTE=Le Lion;1117347]I was also tempted by a blond girl at the bar called Moon Shine. Has anyone been with her? I think she will be my next target, but would be fun to hear if someone has any experience with her.[/QUOTE]That be Nadya. She's great for the money, but best to catch her on the day out of the month when she decides to take a shower. Far too much ink these days. Kind heart. Learned her English from rap music, I'd say. That was my impression after just a few visits. FS for under 100, 000. Hate her blond look. She was so much hotter before the copious amounts of ink, face surgery, and bleach-blond hair.
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[QUOTE=Jesterl;1119635]Your age shouldn't be a no-gamer. My guys were mid-20s and also had trouble, even with decent Korean ability. The girls on the street are just harder, younger and less English knowledgeable. Try some of the clubs. Stay clear of the hip hop clubs (unless your black, in which case the locals will make, somewhat, of an exception).[/QUOTE]If you're going to pick up girls on the street, then you seriously have to be extremely good-looking, tall, and know how to talk. I have several Korean guy friends who absolutely look like popstars / idols that you see on Korean TV, and whenever we head to party at places like Hongdae or Kangnam, they can just walk up to any Korean girl and right away the girls will get interested. I'm serious. I was blown away how many girls they had sex with whenever we went out and they would always show me photos of the girls from their cellphones.
If you want to pick up chicks, then avoid Kangnam because the competition there is no joke. As much as the girls there are like fucking goddesses, it's very difficult to get with them even for Korean guys unless you're rich. This is why my Korean friends aim for Hongdae more than Kangnam because the success rate is better there.
If I have to give advice to foreigners, it will be to improve your Korean. Of course there are many people in Korea who can speak English, but I think the chances are very random. From my experience and my Korean friends, many of the Korean girls that we have met in clubs speak from little to decent English. It's a no-brainer that your chances to get with a Korean girl is higher and less difficult if you know how to speak Korean.
On top of that you also have to be good-looking. It's a fact that Korea is a superficial country.
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[QUOTE=Jesterl;1119635]I don't know how the old days were. Do people think picking up was better in the past? If so, how long ago, how so, and how did it end? In Japan, I've noticed days were better seven years ago.[/QUOTE]WAY easier in the past. The girls were way less superficial; no need back then to be tall, hot, AND rich (not in that order). The mid and late 90's were awesome. That all pretty much came to an end in '02 with the anti-American protests and the anti-English Spectrum "roving bands" of Koreans out to pummel foreigners with "their" women.
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Old days (somewhat)
[QUOTE=Jesterl; 1119635]Your age shouldn't be a no-gamer. My guys were mid-20s and also had trouble, even with decent Korean ability. The girls on the street are just harder, younger and less English knowledgeable. Try some of the clubs. Stay clear of the hip hop clubs (unless your black, in which case the locals will make, somewhat, of an exception).
P. S. I came to Korea this summer, so I don't know how the old days were. Do people think picking up was better in the past? If so, how long ago, how so, and how did it end? In Japan, I've noticed days were better seven years ago. I think it had to do with fads though. [/QUOTE]My first time in Korea was in 1987. Even then, it was difficult to meet women just walking down the street. Mostly, that is part of their culture. Many people think the Koreans are being snobbish or rude when they don't give greetings or say "excuse me." But it is not part of their cultural upbringing to do that. In fact, they think it is rude, or at the very least, odd for a unknown person to even say "Hello," as they pass by. Most of them will be shocked by an unknown foreigner trying to speak to them on the street.
During my last stay in Korea (2004-2010) , I took up walking through the small town I lived in. I got bored with just walking past everyone along my route, and started saying the Korean word for Hello,"Anyonghaseyo" (not sure on the spelling, but you get the idea) to the cute women I would pass by. Almost every one of them just stared in shock / disbelief at this big white man talking to them even though he had never met them. It was funny to see their expressions! I walked the same route everyday, and after a while noticed the same girls were out at the time I was walking. I also greet those selling things on the street, or in the shops (most of the time only nodding to greet them, but sometimes poking my head in the door to verbally greet them). With this repeated greeting, most of the women became comfortable with it, and began replying in kind. Some of the women even began to get friendly. I was invited to join some for coffee, or other drinks at times. One even came out of her shop, and chased me down to invite me to stop in sometime and enjoy some "fun" with her and her friends. At the time, I was married to a Korean, so I could not follow up on the invite without causing a storm of gossip.
If you have the time, and are persistent, I believe you can find Korean women outside of the clubs and RLD. Of course, knowing how to speak the language is a large plus in this effort. Speaking Korean can also be beneficial in the business clubs and booking clubs.
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[QUOTE=Vincelee76; 1119034]Hello,
I have traveled all over asia, japan, taiwan, Thailand, China, phillippines for mongering. I am Taiwanese my self. I have never heard of anyone trying to block another guy from talking to a woman.
Good luck[/QUOTE]That is because this phenomenon is predominant in Korea. I have never been cock blocked by Asian men outside of Korea. In fact, usually the opposite. Interesting that this topic has resurfaced. I have noticed how progressively worse it has become in Korea. Just a matter of time before something blows up. I have decided to bulk up to be more intimidating (although K broads usually prefer less beefy guys) , and have found if you travel with large group of guys (especially my African American friends who most Korean guys are scared of) I get less resistance. Attitude is key with the younger guys, and I tend to stare them down. Just waiting for my temper to snap and start busting heads (not smart move though). The older guys are the harder ones to deal with.
On a brighter note, had amazing P4P on the hill before going clubbing (scored digits from 2 best looking hotties from both clubs to boot). Double tag team with 18 and 20 yr old SP newbies. Incredible service, had to fight hard not to blow early. Still horny thinking about it. Glad some ne talent is on the block. About fucking time.
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3 or 4 new (and young) ladies at ABC club on the hill in Itaewon. They work at various times, usually evenings after 9pm. The older lot are in during the day, mostly. If you like slightly plump girls that are pretty, there's one about 22 that's quite attractive, IMHO. Asked for a HJ and got a BJ to boot. Paid 40, 000. YMMV because she is new and not greedy yet. A couple of thinner girls who are a 6 or 7, and a return lady who used to work ABC, Mississippi, and another club across the street a few years ago. She's got a rockin' body, is mid 20's, but an attitude.
The Janie I thought of is indeed working at Uncle Jack's in Fish Alley. If you're into FJ's, she's got the softest skin you'll ever find.
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Oh, forgot to mention the girl back at ABC with the rockin' body and attitude is named Hannah (or Anna).
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[QUOTE=Coitus68;1120109]WAY easier in the past. The girls were way less superficial; no need back then to be tall, hot, AND rich (not in that order). The mid and late 90's were awesome. That all pretty much came to an end in '02 with the anti-American protests and the anti-English Spectrum "roving bands" of Koreans out to pummel foreigners with "their" women.[/QUOTE]If the koreans are going to pummel foreigners, and have anti american protest. I don't see why the US needs to there to protect korea. And this cock blocking foreingers too. I don't see why the US has to spend millions and put our troops there to protect them. They should be happy we are bringing money to their women. We should be at countries that appricate us. Taiwan, phillippines, Thailand, japan. These countries deserve more attention.
This is just my humble opinion.
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[QUOTE=Vincelee76; 1120277]If the koreans are going to pummel foreigners, and have anti american protest. I don't see why the US needs to there to protect korea. And this cock blocking foreingers too. I don't see why the US has to spend millions and put our troops there to protect them. They should be happy we are bringing money to their women. We should be at countries that appricate us. Taiwan, phillippines, Thailand, japan. These countries deserve more attention.
This is just my humble opinion.[/QUOTE]This is a whole other story but it would probably be a lot better for the rest of us foreigners if there weren't any US soldiers in Korea to worsen the Koreans views of foreigners. I'm not saying all of them are asses but as a group they are loud, rude, disrespectful to Korean culture and down right obnoxious. Anytime I see guys acting disrespectful to the ladies on the hill as well, you can be damn sure they are Americans.
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[QUOTE=DeepThroat;1119987]What time of day / night are you seeing this girl? It isn't Janie, is it? If she's back, I'll definitely stop by for a visit. If it's Janie, she worked at Cheers, and briefly at Ing bar. She's missed.[/QUOTE]Jack's always had irregular opening days / hours, and I haven't been there in months, so I've no idea. Anyway, not the same name; probably a different girl; years ago she worked at Indian Joe's.
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[QUOTE=DeepThroat;1120221]Oh, forgot to mention the girl back at ABC with the rockin' body and attitude is named Hannah (or Anna).[/QUOTE]Be careful with names and specifics newbie. These SP's read this forum because of some loser who revealed this site to them. I'm all for sharing intel, but don't want another fiasco again.
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit;1120700]Be careful with names and specifics newbie. These SP's read this forum because of some loser who revealed this site to them. I'm all for sharing intel, but don't want another fiasco again.[/QUOTE]Roger that. Given the quotient of gameless wankers who apparently frequent this forum, details are best left for private messaging. And then only to obviously qualified and discreet punters. Although how anyone just starting out makes their bones from here on out then remains to be seen.
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Someone will have to fill me in via PM as to what the "fiasco" was, and when it happened? I've been in Korea for 4 years now, and it's the first I've heard of it after frequenting the hill for drinkie for some time.
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[QUOTE=DeepThroat;1121210]Someone will have to fill me in via PM as to what the "fiasco" was, and when it happened? I've been in Korea for 4 years now, and it's the first I've heard of it after frequenting the hill for drinkie for some time.[/QUOTE]See various comments in early to mid October (current pages 13-11) , begun by me Oct 9 and esp the exchange with "Lunch Meat", who apparently is one of the wankers in question
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Anyone seen what happened to Nana from Moulin Rouge? The place has apparently changed to another business (happened in the early Winter) , but I haven't seen her since Fall. PM if you'd rather keep things on the down-low.
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First Time on the Hill
I'm a gyopo american and I'm thinking about heading to the hill for the first time today. Just wondering what to expect, like how much a beer is, if I would need to buy any ladydrinks and what the going rate is these days. I've read a little about it and the service seems alot better on the hill than it is in the RLD. Is that the case?
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Beers on the hill are in the 5, 000 range. If you just drink up at Polly's, you can get a soju kettle (soju mixed with your choice of fruit punch, cider, cola, whatever) for somewhere around 7, 000 to 9, 000. That's a liter of drink, and lasts a while, if you don't mind sweet drinks. Lady drinks in the girly bars will run you 20, 000, and she'll talk to you for anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes, then ask you to buy more.
What I don't understand (and get a kick out of) are the guys who March up that hill acting like they're players, dropping 20, 000 on lady drinks every time they are asked. Pretty soon they've spent 200, 000 and haven't even had other fun. That's when the girls know they've got a sucker, and will try to squeeze top-dollar out of the guy for other services. Good for the ladies. Bad for the dudes.
Truth is, if you're not too old, look nice, and are kind, you can get laid on the hill for under 100, 000 to 150, 000 max in several bars without buying drinks. It'll be quick, though.
Pretty funny story that happened to CeCe years ago (she's long, long gone. Married a Korean doctor) when I was on my first stint in Korea. A guy used his credit card and dumped over a million on it in one night, then he canceled the card the next day, claiming it was stolen. I don't know what ever came out of that one, but obviously he regretted what had happened. I walked in to hear her arguing with the credit card company about it. From the way it sounded, the guy was going to get away with it.
I don't know what you're going for, but I'd suggest starting-out by heading up to Polly's or Stompers for a few drinks on your own (regular bars) , and keep an eye-out to see what ladies capture your attention. IMHO, the sexiest finds will be the gal in Tiger Club with fake boobs, the cute little spunky half Korean / Japanese woman a bar or two up from that (not the one that looks like Michael Jackson) , or the younger ladies in ABC club that are new and naive. Oh, and First club at the top of the hill, across from Stompers, has an extremely kind / funny / sexy gal that I think everyone should buy a drink for regardless. If you click with her, the service will be fabulous. If you like gals in their upper 30's who still look great and can remove the chrome from a trailer hitch quite nicely, try VIP. Their friend in the bar one before Tiger is nice as well. She's got a great laugh.
Ones to avoid (and I know others will differ on this) are the gal perpendicular to the hill street working in Peachfuzz (I beg to differ about her BJ being anything thrilling). Also avoid elephant legs in Ambrosia, who gives a BJ to anyone from any country for next to nothing. Oh, and note that there are transgenders in a few of the bars. My memory is a bit fuzzy at the moment, but I believe one of them works in Capital (brunette) , and another the turquoise blue / white club next to it. That club used to be named Rocky Top, but I forget what the name is now. That transgender was actually born with both sets of organs, and had the male ones removed (or so I've heard).
Oh, and if Cheers is open, drop by to see who is working. There can be some very young / cute college girls with ambitions. Be careful, though. One of the hottest, and most talkative taller girls is a massive tease.
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How does the AbC club work?
How does the AbC club or other clubs in Itaewon work? Do you have to buy them many drinks then they warm uP? Do they invite you there? I date many K-girls for lunch / dinner or fun and drop by RLDs but the ABC club looks interesting.
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[QUOTE=DeepThroat;1121711]Ones to avoid (and I know others will differ on this) are the gal perpendicular to the hill street working in Peachfuzz (I beg to differ about her BJ being anything thrilling)[/quote]I think you are the only one to ever go on record with anything bad to say about her. Maybe you caught her on an off-night? At the end of a long-night? Other?
[quote]That transgender was actually born with both sets of organs, and had the male ones removed (or so I've heard).[/quote]Then she's not a transgender. I would doubt the story anyway, since TRUE hermaphroditism is rare on the order of near zero.
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[QUOTE=Coitus68; 1121895]I think you are the only one to ever go on record with anything bad to say about her. Maybe you caught her on an off-night? At the end of a long-night? Other?
Then she's not a transgender. I would doubt the story anyway, since TRUE hermaphroditism is rare on the order of near zero.[/QUOTE]1. The peachfuzz chick left me feeling. Meh. Maybe it's difficult for her to live up to the expectations set by the previous owner, whom I really liked? I read the posts on here and seriously wondered what all of the fuss was about? Everybody has their style, I guess. She failed to impress me twice, and my money will go elsewhere from now on.
2. Then you doubt the hermaphrodite. She's the one who told me. Now please don't ask me to believe everything a hooker in Itaewon says.
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[QUOTE=Jeanespero;1121833]How does the AbC club or other clubs in Itaewon work? Do you have to buy them many drinks then they warm uP? Do they invite you there? I date many K-girls for lunch / dinner or fun and drop by RLDs but the ABC club looks interesting.[/QUOTE]Yes, and no. They often call to, or try to pull foreigners in the bar as they walk by. If you're a gyopo, you'll have to open the door and speak English. They generally dislike ajosshi, and will shut the door on a drunk Korean guy. A gyopo who smiles, shows good manners, and offers to buy a drink for someone right away would have decent luck.
I can't speak for gyopos (yes, there is discrimination in these bars) but basically, if you are a non-Korean, buy no drinks, just ask for sex, manage to be a hard-head and not give in to the girl and mamasan begging you to buy drinks then you can get some action just for cash. Downside is, it will be quick and they will push you out fast. In all likelihood, lowest of all possible will be. 100, 000 for full monte. For a tug will be around 40 to 50, but they will really try to get you to push for a drink first.
The mamasan at ABC is a bit eccentric. The girls will tell you she's a kind person for feeding cats outside all day and night, but "nice" isn't the impression you'll get by any stretch. She can be a real challenge at times, unless you wave cash in front of her face. She'll get angry at you, shout at you, then ten seconds later be your buddy. Then she'll get angry again. Just roll with it, say nice things, and buy a drink for your girl if she gets nasty.
As someone they don't know, you're best off buying one or two drinks for the girl you like, getting to know her, and then asking what other services are available. ABC will take you in the back and pull down a blind if it's your basic tug or BJ, or across the street to a room for the full monte if the bar is busy. One of the girls usually lives in that apartment. There is also a small room and toilet in the back of ABC, but these days they keep that closed. Usually someone crashes there, too, and it's possible they may take you there.
I suggest you buy 1 drink, start asking about other possibilities, and maybe buy one more if you feel like separating yourself from more cash before the deed. That will make them happier, anyway.
Rule you should always remember. ALWAYS be prepared to smile, say you don't have enough cash, and walk away if they ask too much. NEVER NEVER NEVER use a credit card. Sometimes they'll come down in price if you start to leave. Other times, not. In any case, always be prepared to walk out. They'll remember that you walked out the last time, and will be more amicable on a slow night the next time you blow through. If not, well, there are a lot of other fish in the sea on which you can spend your money.
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Oh, Coitus. My mistake. Now that I think about it, the one who told me she once had two parts was another transgender who used to work on the hill at what is now Coyote, and later at another bar- VIP. She's not there anymore. She was her good friend, and didn't appear to be trying to cut the other ladyboy down.
In any case, she is not and never has been a natural woman from the start. His / her persona is somewhat shy, and she'll avoid you if you avoid her.
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So long-timers, who do you miss the most?
I rarely venture from the Hill. Used to live on it some time back. Pal'd around with a number of ladies over the years. Seen 'them come, and seen 'them go. Even dated a few (not with serious intentions).
Thought I'd spill the beans on what I know about formers, because I'm curious if anyone knows what happened to anyone else?
Years ago, as in early 2000's during the end of my first stint in Korea, there was a lady named Youngsan (or Youngsun) that worked at Tiger. She was A#1 in my book, at the time. She had it all, including humor, and service was outstanding. Alas, I heard she moved away and married some dude from the UK. She disappeared around 2003.
Then, who could forget Dallas Club (now Moonshine). Other than names of the women, which I have forgotten. There were two very hot ladies from Jeju who worked in there. Guys used to line up for the thinner one, because she also had humor, great English, and gave great service. A number of ladies on the hill were jealous of her because she was always busy. It was rare to see her door open. I know of more than a few months where she easily earned 10+ million. The other girl was a bit more quiet, but had a rockin' body with excellent curves and also very pretty. These two disappeared around 2003 just before the troops began patrolling and things went "off limits" for army guys. Someone told me a rumor that some guy roughed-up the smaller girl pretty bad, and she quit. Don't know if that was true or not. May have just been a jealous girl's fantasy. The second gal got married to a soldier from Kansas City about the same time. The two ladies had the bar together, so both moved on around the same time. Both of them had worked in Cheers prior to opening Dallas (Moonshine). My mind is hazy, and I can't remember if they named it Dallas then, or if they'd changed the name to Moonshine? I just remember them remodeling the place. Maybe they did name it Moonshine, and it's been that ever since?
Some other fun ladies, that are long-gone, are CeCe (stunning half-Korean / Chinese who had a kid and was rumored to have been previously married) , GeeWoo (she ran owing money to people, but now commutes between Canada and Korea. Forever missed) , Yumi (whatever happened to her?) , Yuri (a girl from Moulin Rouge whom I miss terribly for her incredible BJ skills- apparently married) , and Sunny (short girl who was once a semi-famous dancer who also split owing people money. Rumored to work around Uijeonbu). Annie (fabulous BJ for 40, 000, but married a Canadian guy around 2005 and disappeared. As mentioned, she had the sexiest black-rimmed 50's style glasses until she got lasex surgery). I wish them all well.
I really miss the early 2000's. I never saved a penny, though. Back in those days, the hill was sooooo busy. Troops were still allowed to frequent these establishments, and that drew several prettier (and cleaner) ladies. They didn't have cameras yet (didn't need 'them) , and the ladies usually physically grabbed guys off of the street, trying to pull them into the bar. It was nothing for these girls to earn 5 to 10 million won plus in a month doing what they did. You could just sit and talk to the ladies and they wouldn't push you so hard to buy drinks because so many guys would go in / out all of the time, giving them plenty of business. Times have changed.
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[QUOTE=DeepThroat; 1121711]Beers on the hill are in the 5, 000 range. If you just drink up at Polly's, you can get a soju kettle (soju mixed with your choice of fruit punch, cider, cola, whatever) for somewhere around 7, 000 to 9, 000. That's a liter of drink, and lasts a while, if you don't mind sweet drinks. Lady drinks in the girly bars will run you 20, 000, and she'll talk to you for anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes, then ask you to buy more.
I don't know what you're going for, but I'd suggest starting-out by heading up to Polly's or Stompers for a few drinks on your own (regular bars) , and keep an eye-out to see what ladies capture your attention. IMHO, the sexiest finds will be the gal in Tiger Club with fake boobs, the cute little spunky half Korean / Japanese woman a bar or two up from that (not the one that looks like Michael Jackson) , or the younger ladies in ABC club that are new and naive. Oh, and First club at the top of the hill, across from Stompers, has an extremely kind / funny / sexy gal that I think everyone should buy a drink for regardless. If you click with her, the service will be fabulous. If you like gals in their upper 30's who still look great and can remove the chrome from a trailer hitch quite nicely, try VIP. Their friend in the bar one before Tiger is nice as well. She's got a great laugh.
Oh, and if Cheers is open, drop by to see who is working. There can be some very young / cute college girls with ambitions. Be careful, though. One of the hottest, and most talkative taller girls is a massive tease. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice deepthroat. I plan on hitting of some the places you mentioned like ABC, Tiger Club or Cheers in the next couple of days. I've only been to the RLD in Yongsan so far and each time I went it was the same thing. Lick your nipples. 2-3 min BBBJ followed by 2-3 basic positions for 70, 000. Some of the girls in Yongsan were pretty hot on the main strip but I would like girls with better service. So Ill check out the Hill, hopefully I can find a girl that at least offers DFK, BBBJ, DATY and if I'm really lucky also offers COF or greek.
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Oh, FYI, I kept mentioning "First Club" at the top of the hill. I meant "NO. 1 Club."
Sorry. There actually is a "First Club" down below the hill in Fish Alley (now called Little Nigeria) , but I haven't seen a pretty enough lady in there for years.
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[QUOTE=Asian Butters;1122077]Thanks for the advice deepthroat. I plan on hitting of some the places you mentioned like ABC, Tiger Club or Cheers in the next couple of days. I've only been to the RLD in Yongsan so far and each time I went it was the same thing. Lick your nipples. 2-3 min BBBJ followed by 2-3 basic positions for 70, 000. Some of the girls in Yongsan were pretty hot on the main strip but I would like girls with better service. So Ill check out the Hill, hopefully I can find a girl that at least offers DFK, BBBJ, DATY and if I'm really lucky also offers COF or greek.[/QUOTE]Side note: ABC is actually "BC" at the moment, because the "A" fell off of the sign. It's 3/4 of the way up the hill and on the left. Prettier ladies in there usually show up around 9 to 10pm, with sometimes 1 coming in around 7. The young, very healthy girl with well-done fingernails will meet several of the things on your list.
Cheers opens between 9 and 10, and the girls can show up randomly anytime after that. Usually all are there by 10:30. You'll be paying more for a girl from Cheers, as they are younger, prettier, generally a lot cleaner, and they know it. If you want the full monte with one of these ladies, you'll end up leaving the establishment for a hotel. I've never taken one out of there, but I'm sure costs will be in excess of 200, 000, plus drinks. You can get a tug behind the curtain in the corner for far less from some of them. I think you have to work-up to it to get much out of some of these girls (the better looking ones, anyway).
In my opinion, another good chance at receiving what you're interested in would involve a visit to the Korean / Japanese lady working in Texas club (I think it's Texas. NOT her co-worker, who looks like Michael Jackson) I believe Capital, next to it, is the place with the stunning tranny you'd never guess was a tranny. The girl you want is short, petite, has a thin almost 80's rock-style haircut, and is a whole lot of fun.
Also, if she's working (she's not around on weekends these days) you will find that the tall, thin bleach-blonde with a rockin' body working in Moonshine will be quite amicable to many of your interests. You'd better like tattoos, though.
No. 1 club might interest you, as well.
I have no idea who does greek, as stool-pushing has never interested me.
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Deep Throat
Tried sending PM, however your account won't accept them. I normally don't get involved with others posts, however, as indicated previously, the SPs on the hill ARE reading your posts. A while back some lurker on this site informed some SPs on the hill, so they have been monitoring it. Your comments are already circulating, and is affecting quality of service and price. Moreover, they probably even know who you are now. To be honest, it is refreshing to have new talent on the hill, but when explicit details are provided, it doesn't last very long. In fact, LE (law enforcement) has increased their presence as well (last Thursday night). Moreover, Punters in all shapes and sizes start frequenting them more often, thereby hardening the chicks and lessening the experience. I recognize this is inevitable, but it would be nice to enjoy for a while first. Case in point:Nana at Molin Rouge. Too much traffic and detail was provided here, so she eventually closed up shop (among other reasons). Giving the lowdown on prices and process for newbies is fine, but once you provide names and specific locations, it changes the game. Hence, we usually PM info for the regulars here not all lurkers. With so many RLD closing and lack of available places which service foreigners, please don't further saturate the only market left available to us. Thanks kindly.
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Gentlemen,
I typed a big long reply to this. I was quite perturbed at the time. Not sure if it went to post or not, because my browser did some strange things.
In any case, whether it did go through or not, I don't want to get into an argument here. My goal was merely to provide other people with information, as intended by this site. I'm going to rethink this.
I can't PM yet, apparently. I believe I have to be a regular member for some time before that can happen?
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Direction
I'll be staying downtown by Lotte world hotel. Does anybody know of any AMP or massage places in walking distance?
Thanks for the help
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If you have a paid subscription, you just have to enable the PM function on your account preferences page.
[QUOTE=DeepThroat; 1122811]Gentlemen,
I typed a big long reply to this. I was quite perturbed at the time. Not sure if it went to post or not, because my browser did some strange things.
In any case, whether it did go through or not, I don't want to get into an argument here. My goal was merely to provide other people with information, as intended by this site. I'm going to rethink this.
I can't PM yet, apparently. I believe I have to be a regular member for some time before that can happen? [/QUOTE]
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Hummm. Would rather be able to PM without paying. I'll have to go back and read again, but I think I can do that after a certain time period (may be 6 months?).
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Cheongnyangni 588
Decided to hit Cheongnyangni 588 RLD tonight for Valentines day. It wasnt hard to find as its right outside Cheongnyangni station and you can easily see the pink lights from there. It was my first time going to th 588 RLD and its pretty big compared to the Yongsan RLD. Many of the windows werent open and I'd say there were only about 25 with their pink lights on. The majority of girls were 6-7's a couple of 8 and 9's. There was one really hot girl but something seemed off about her and I get the feeling she was a ladyboy. Actually after I noticed her I suspected a couple of other girls could possibly be ladyboys. I did a couple more passes by her window but it was hard to tell without stopping and really take a closer look. I held off on any action tonight as I didn't want to go with the average girls and I wasnt sure about the hotter girls but will definitely check it out again in a couple of days.
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Texas Club
[QUOTE=DeepThroat;1122090]In my opinion, another good chance at receiving what you're interested in would involve a visit to the Korean / Japanese lady working in Texas club (I think it's Texas. NOT her co-worker, who looks like Michael Jackson) I believe Capital, next to it, is the place with the stunning tranny you'd never guess was a tranny. The girl you want is short, petite, has a thin almost 80's rock-style haircut, and is a whole lot of fun.[/QUOTE]The girl at Texas is a post op.
I am pretty good at spotting them as I have been around Asia a long time. Had a drink with her, was pretty sure about my assessment and stroked the vagina with my finger. Post op I am pretty sure.
All the other Trannys are butt ass ugly IMHO. She is hot though, for a dude.
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Retraction
[QUOTE=Carmex; 1123569]The girl at Texas is a post op.
I am pretty good at spotting them as I have been around Asia a long time. Had a drink with her, was pretty sure about my assessment and stroked the vagina with my finger. Post op I am pretty sure.
All the other Trannys are butt ass ugly IMHO. She is hot though, for a dude. [/QUOTE]Actually, I just thought of this. This happened about a year ago so, I don't know who works there now. My bad. Have not been back and not been to the hill in a long time. I am sure things have changed.
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[QUOTE=Carmex; 1123569]The girl at Texas is a post op.
I am pretty good at spotting them as I have been around Asia a long time. Had a drink with her, was pretty sure about my assessment and stroked the vagina with my finger. Post op I am pretty sure.
All the other Trannys are butt ass ugly IMHO. She is hot though, for a dude.[/QUOTE]We are not talking about the same person. I may have the bar names mixed up, or you saw the wrong girl. You probably saw the Michael Jackson.
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Wondering if anyone else will have to cut back on their fun play due to the massive tax increase foreigners have been hit with this year in korea? I used to get back over a million won refund yearly. This year I had to pay in nearly a million!
Taxes just went in last week at our school. Ouch!
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Wondering if anyone else will have to cut back on their fun play due to the massive tax increase foreigners have been hit with this year in korea? I used to get back over a million won refund yearly. This year I had to pay in nearly a million!
Taxes just went in last week at our school. Ouch!
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[QUOTE=DeepThroat;1121711]Oh, and if Cheers is open, drop by to see who is working. There can be some very young / cute college girls with ambitions. Be careful, though. One of the hottest, and most talkative taller girls is a massive tease.[/QUOTE]Deepthroat, are you talking about Sarah? She has long black curly hair and bubbly perky personality. She speaks English very well. I was chatting with her once. I really enjoyed talking to her. I wondered if she would be totally different in bed though.
My friend took me to Cheers. I had no interest in going to a juicy bar because I didn't want to spend a lot of money buying lady drinks. He assured me could get some for 100, 0000 won and no ladydrinks. He told me that he would pay for my drinks and the lady drinks, so I said sure. We got a table with two girls. I had Sarah, and he had a different girl. My friend pulls out his credit card and gives it to them. He buys drinks for himself, the girls, and I. The girls are knocking back ladydrink, after ladydrink at 20, 000 won a pop. I'm having a good time bullshitting with Sarah, on my friend's dime. My friend motions to me, that he is ready to fuck his girl. I tell Sarah it was nice talking to her and I will visit her in the future. I exit cheers and walk by 20 minutes later.
I see my friend's girl standing out front trying to lure in customers. My friend told me, the girl asked him 400, 000 won for sex, and found out he had a 500, 000 won charge on his card. So he walked with a serious case of blue balls. All that money for nothing.
A separate story. I went to a juicy bar at the top of the hill with a different friend of mine. This guy is very polite and can get into a long conversation with any stranger using his charms. I was fucking a girl long time in the back while he was chatting with mama-san and some of the other girls. The mama-san gave him coffee and didn't charge him for any drinks. She told my friend a lot of details on how they operate. I can't remember them all, but basically she said that when watching the guys walking by with the camera, if the guy is Black, Middle Eastern, or East Indian, they will ask for a higher price. She also said that military guys always try to negotiate the price, but English teachers usually accept the first offer given to them.
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I thought I would share some of my experiences in Korea.
I've been to the Yongsan RLD twice. B Row only. There are some young girls there with smoking hot bodies. This place is cheaper if you want the quick pump in dump. I personally can not cum that fast and I want some GFE with my service. I decided I will never go there again because I get much better quality service from the girls on the hill. The only thing Yongsan has going for it is the cheaper prices and not worrying about lady drinks. A little tip, don't use the Yongsan train station if you don't have to. On the light blue line there is a stop called Sinyongsan that puts you right near the action.
There has been plenty of information on the hill here. I've used this place three times from three different girls. I've always had nice GFE here and no clock watching. That is the kind of experience I want.
I live in a small city two hours from Seoul. I've always avoided the barber shops there because I assumed they wouldn't take foreigners. That and I want something more than a HJ. I decided to go ahead and just try one in my town anyways. I walked in and was greeted by a very pretty woman in her 30s. I didn't negotiate or ask for anything. I figured I would just play dumb and pretend like I'm here for a massage. 40 minutes into the massage, she takes her clothes off and climbs on top of me. She gives me excellent full service. Afterwards she gave me her phone number and asked me to call her. I'm going to try to get her to come to my apartment so I don't have to fuck her on a massage table.
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Around Hongdae st
Interesting post from JimJim. I had something similar 3 weeks ago (I mean, not expected).
Went to Hongdae St. Looking for the place mentioned by Koyangi 2 yrs ago, behind Seokyo hotel. Went to the hotel backdoor, and saw to my right, accross the street, the signs he mentioned. Went downstairs, the presence detector announced me and a lady opened the door. She said they were not ready (it was 1pm) and asked me to return at 4pm.
I didn't have time, so continued walking and saw two poles and a large one together showing another entrance about 50m from the first place. Went there and was greeted by the lady (in her 40s).
Went to the table, undressed and kept the underwear. She washed my feet and asked to wait.
Comes in another lady, in a very loose dress. Gives me a half-ass back massage, turns me around, massages my arms and teases me.
I knew that at least a HJ I would get. I was wondering if a BJ was in the menu.
She goes and returns with the hot towels for the cleaning. Removes my underwear and, while cleaning me, she takes her panties off. Nice!
Then, while doing a HJ, she let her dress go. Now I see this is getting better.
Starts a BBBJ, and I'm touching her all over. Then, to my surprise, she grabs a condom, slips it and jump on the bed. With a smile, puts me in and rides me cowgirl, while licking my neck and ears.
I ask her to go slowly, to which she responds nicely. After a while, I come (after 1 week without any action. Couldn't hold it).
Cleans me, gives me a vitamin juice, always chatting and happy. Nice attitude. Damage: 80, 000.
Cheers,
Sauro07.
P. S. : any ideas for nuru / slippery, please, share.
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[QUOTE=JimJim005; 1125410]I see my friend's girl standing out front trying to lure in customers. My friend told me, the girl asked him 400, 000 won for sex, and found out he had a 500, 000 won charge on his card. So he walked with a serious case of blue balls. All that money for nothing.
Them. [/QUOTE]Wow, that's just plain stupid. Giving your credit card and not setting parameters or even negotiating in advance. Personally, I wouldn't want to hang out with someone like that, buying me free drinks of not.
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Cheongryangni 588
Had some time to kill on SUnday (yesterday) , so went to Cheongryangni at about 930am. Was surprised to see some girls there already. Some were making up their faces. I didn't want to engage them this early in the morning, so just walked about. There at least 5 girls, maybe 5-7 quality. One of them looked like she had relatively big natural boobs as well.
FYI
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S Anma Gangnam-gu Office station
Quite report.
Went there about 3pm. Quite. Was asked what style girl I wanted. Had no preference so they ushered me directly to a room. Cost now up to 200K. Maybe because I wasn't accompanied by anybody. (I can pass as a Korean, but speak very little Korean.)
Girl was about a 6, size B boobs. Speaks little english. Service was adequate.
Face massage, followed by soapy. Then the real deal. Aksed if she can do CIM, but she gave me a light slap on the chest and gave me the"don't be cheeky look".
Overall, enjoyed myself, but no blind massage.
I will probably venture to another place for theprice and try to get a blind massage as well.
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588 cheongyangni
Went there yesterday, Monday night about 11pm. Was behind a group of Japanese men. So, pickings were low. A lot of girls were quite cute and doll faced. Maybe (to my taste) about 6-8. Was walking around looking for a big-boobed girl. Saw one quite attractive. Usual price 70k.
I suppose I know in heart that it is usually a push-up bra that exaggerates the size. I was slightly disappointed, she probably had a size B-small C. Anyway, appreciable length of BBBJ. Then the condom and she asked me to do her missionary. After a while, I asked to change and had her cowgirl. A bit mechanical, no GFE.
Quick in out. 70K.
Did a quite walk today. But didn't partake as I was a little tired. Hope I have a chance to savour a Gangnam Anma tomorrow.
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Sheraton Incheon
Hi guys am at the Sheraton Incheon this week seems a new area by the building going on, has any body got any details on full service massage in the area? Walking distance from the hotel would appreciate any advise many thanks
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Superstar Anma in Yeoksam
Superstar Anma in Yeoksam which was opposite Hotel La Mir is no more. There is a new construction at the sire. Further down the road to Soelleung there is another Anma named A+. Couldn't find the entrance, one possible entrance was locked. On the ground floor is Llumar sunscreens.
Decided to go to Soelleung area then. See my next post.
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Seolleung area anma "Senso"
Found this walking out of Seolleung station exit 10. Second street on the left I think the street name is Tehran.Ro 69 gil. There is an Ilsin pharmacy at the corner. Walk into the side street for about 20m and you will meet a side lane on the left. Another 20m in, you will see a big anma sign in Korean. No englsih name. It has black doors. Went there about 5pm.
I look like a Korean and speak a little bit of korean. The receptionist is quite pretty, told me 190k. I suppose prices have gone up.
She asked me what style and I picked up courage and said big boobs in my broken korean. She and\knew what I meant. Was brought to the change room where there are lockers. You strip and go for a shower or sauna. Then get a robe and the guy brings you to the room. There are 5 floors. Was brought to the room I think 207.
Girl was pretty. Absolutely no english. Her name is Yoona. She was maybe a 8. 5. Nice boobs, about a C with nice nipples. Anyway, she stripped and brought me to the shower. Did the usual. Cleaned everything. Then the soapy. She had big boobs, so she slid my cock in between which was nice. No rimming though.
Then toweled off. Lied on the front and she did the cat bath. I thought I would get the rimming but no chance. Turned me around and repeated, now with BBBJ. She was quite good. Then she flipped around to 69 and I reciprocated.
She then put on the condom and mounted me. She was hot, so I came pretty quickly. She didn't pull me out immediately though. After that, she gave me a few kisses.
Then came the clean up and she laid me She asked me to go back again. And kissed me down. She put on a facial mask on me and then I sort of dosed off. I think she was reading a book whilst I was dozing.
Then I changed and the receptionist came this time. She asked me if I wanted a real massage and I said yes. So she brought me to the 5th floor and told me to wait. The massage was done by a blind guy. Pretty ok except I was short of time, so I asked him to stop. I think that gave him the impression that I didn't like it. So I tried to reassure him that I had a meeting.
All in all, I like the experience. Not as posh as S anma but good girl. Not disappointed. Took a walk around the place. There are a few more anmas around. However, I think if you don't look Korean, you may not get in.
Good luck and stay safe.
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Please ask for foreigner friendliness!
[QUOTE=Fellow111; 1126446]Found this walking out of Seolleung station exit 10. Second street on the left I think the street name is Tehran. Ro 69 gil. There is an Ilsin pharmacy at the corner. Walk into the side street for about 20m and you will meet a side lane on the left. Another 20m in, you will see a big anma sign in Korean. No englsih name. It has black doors. Went there about 5pm.
I look like a Korean and speak a little bit of korean. The receptionist is quite pretty, told me 190k. I suppose prices have gone up.
She asked me what style and I picked up courage and said big boobs in my broken korean. She and\knew what I meant. Was brought to the change room where there are lockers. You strip and go for a shower or sauna. Then get a robe and the guy brings you to the room. There are 5 floors. Was brought to the room I think 207.
Girl was pretty. Absolutely no english. Her name is Yoona. She was maybe a 8. 5. Nice boobs, about a C with nice nipples. Anyway, she stripped and brought me to the shower. Did the usual. Cleaned everything. Then the soapy. She had big boobs, so she slid my cock in between which was nice. No rimming though.
Then toweled off. Lied on the front and she did the cat bath. I thought I would get the rimming but no chance. Turned me around and repeated, now with BBBJ. She was quite good. Then she flipped around to 69 and I reciprocated.
She then put on the condom and mounted me. She was hot, so I came pretty quickly. She didn't pull me out immediately though. After that, she gave me a few kisses.
Then came the clean up and she laid me She asked me to go back again. And kissed me down. She put on a facial mask on me and then I sort of dosed off. I think she was reading a book whilst I was dozing.
Then I changed and the receptionist came this time. She asked me if I wanted a real massage and I said yes. So she brought me to the 5th floor and told me to wait. The massage was done by a blind guy. Pretty ok except I was short of time, so I asked him to stop. I think that gave him the impression that I didn't like it. So I tried to reassure him that I had a meeting.
All in all, I like the experience. Not as posh as S anma but good girl. Not disappointed. Took a walk around the place. There are a few more anmas around. However, I think if you don't look Korean, you may not get in.
Good luck and stay safe.[/QUOTE]Could you do me (and other non-asians) a favor and ask these places if they are foreigner friendly when you go there? It's pretty hard to find good foreigner friendly anmas, and this one seemed very nice.
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Foreigner friendliness
[QUOTE=Le Lion;1126686]Could you do me (and other non-asians) a favor and ask these places if they are foreigner friendly when you go there? It's pretty hard to find good foreigner friendly anmas, and this one seemed very nice.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, my Korean is not good enough to ask that. However, I got the feeling that it may not be so foreign friendly to non-korean looking guys.
As the attendant was talking to me. I told him that I can only speak very little korean and I didn't understand what he meant. However, there was another Korean monger, in the changing room that looked a bit angry. So, I am not sure.
I didn't see any foreign guys anyway.
But I will try if I go again. Before I leave. If I don't post anything, it means I didn't go. Sorry.
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Hit the Hill in Itaewon tonight. Blew a load on one of my regulars after chatting with a few others around the area. Prices have not changed, and they did comment that it has been busier lately. That girl Cherry with the big breasts and fake contacts asks for so much compared to other bars, I can't believe they stay in business. She must think I am rich or just hate me.
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[QUOTE=Le Lion;1126686]It's pretty hard to find good foreigner friendly anmas, and this one seemed very nice.[/QUOTE]You have to forgive my ignorance because I don't visit these places that often, but are Anmas and Barber Shops the same thing? I live in a small city away from Seoul. There are about 5 barber shops here, and all of them have accepted foreigners. This small town is not as welcoming to foreigners either like Seoul. I figured the barber shops would be foreign friendly in the big cities.
Another question, is the blind massage common at barber shops? The one I went to, the lady massaged me also fucked me.
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[QUOTE=D Cups;1126810]Did you say big breasts, DT? . Could you kindly post a photo. Chao ma nayo.[/QUOTE]Just the mentioning the size gets you excited? Actually it should be kam sa ha mida, Cha ma nayo means you're welcome!
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Thanks
[QUOTE=Fellow111; 1126802]Unfortunately, my Korean is not good enough to ask that. However, I got the feeling that it may not be so foreign friendly to non-korean looking guys.
As the attendant was talking to me. I told him that I can only speak very little korean and I didn't understand what he meant. However, there was another Korean monger, in the changing room that looked a bit angry. So, I am not sure.
I didn't see any foreign guys anyway.
But I will try if I go again. Before I leave. If I don't post anything, it means I didn't go. Sorry.[/QUOTE]I'm a white guy but I can speak Korean pretty well, that doesn't always help though. Anyway I would very much appreciate if Asian-looking guys could ask "baekindo gwaenchanayo?" which means "Are white people ok as well?". Maybe you feel awkward asking that, but the info would be helpful for us whities
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[QUOTE=D Cups;1126810]Did you say big breasts, DT? . Could you kindly post a photo. Chao ma nayo.[/QUOTE]I can recommend you to see Cherry if you like big breasts! She works at the bar called Happy Days at the top of Hookers Hill in Itaewon.
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Cherry?
[QUOTE=Le Lion;1127032]I can recommend you to see Cherry if you like big breasts! She works at the bar called Happy Days at the top of Hookers Hill in Itaewon.[/QUOTE]I walked by Hooker Hill last night. Most of the shops were closed (actually many RLD shops are usually closed on Sundays). Is Cherry the only one working at Happy Days? I walked pass there and I saw a fairly thick and aged lady with big breasts and long black curly hair (actually, I'm not 100% on the hair). Is she Cherry?
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[QUOTE=Abuasian1;1128359]I walked by Hooker Hill last night. Most of the shops were closed (actually many RLD shops are usually closed on Sundays). Is Cherry the only one working at Happy Days? I walked pass there and I saw a fairly thick and aged lady with big breasts and long black curly hair (actually, I'm not 100% on the hair). Is she Cherry?[/QUOTE]She is not the only one working there, but she has been standing in the doorway everytime I went by there and she is the only one with unusually large breast as far as I know. I don't know exactly how old she is but I guess she is 30 something, not skinny but definitely not a fatty.
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Contact me
Hello.
I can't use PM. Because of I didn't pay by card.
How can I meet her?
Please contact me by email with her contact info.
[blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue] Is this possible?
$300 for 2 hours. Ok.
Regards.
[QUOTE=Daegu Dawg; 1054041]Next is Milana (aka Tonya)
Russian, works in a hospital, lives in / near Gangnam.
$300 for 2 hours.
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Please contact me
Hello.
I can't use PM. Because of I didn't pay by card.
How can I meet her?
Please contact me by email with her contact info.
[blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue] Is this possible?
$300 for 2 hours. Ok.
Regards
[QUOTE=Daegu Dawg; 1054041]Next is Milana (aka Tonya)
Russian, works in a hospital, lives in / near Gangnam.
$300 for 2 hours.
PM me for contact info.[/QUOTE][blue]===============================================
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To "Daegu Dawg"
To "Daegu Dawg"
Hello.
I can't use PM. Because of I didn't pay by card.
How can I meet her?
Please contact me. Please write other free blog with her contact info.
Please send her contact info.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Daegu Dawg; 1054041]Next is Milana (aka Tonya)
Russian, works in a hospital, lives in / near Gangnam.
$300 for 2 hours.
PM me for contact info. [/QUOTE][blue]===============================================
Greetings Everyone,
It would appear that HotClick...
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2. Believes that it's okay for me to pay the forum's server bills so he can enjoy a free website, or...
3. Believes that it's okay the I should work for free to maintain this website, or...
4. Cannot afford the $20 to buy a subscription.
Anyway, if anyone wants to purchase a subscription for HotClick, all you need to do is enter his username where indicated when making the credit card charge.
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Directions to IFY?
Can anybody provide directions to IVY in Seoul? I heard it was similar to Belle except the girls get completely naked. I'm going back to Seoul in a couple weeks and would like to give it a try.
I've been to Belle many times and enjoy the service there. I also enjoy VIP across from COEX. You get a much better massage than at Belle and the finish is always nice, but most of the girls won't remove any clothing which is a bit disappointing. I tried Cleopatra during my last visit but got turned away at the door, so it's obviously not foreigner friendly.
I would appreciate any help in finding IVY.
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Vitamin V
It is possible to buy viagra in Seoul? And if yes. Where? Regular pharmacies?
Have a trip coming up. Need to "re-stock". Ha! Ha!
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What is VIP, Bella and IVY? How much does it usually cost? I'm still kinda new to
[QUOTE=Grimmy23; 1130403]Can anybody provide directions to IVY in Seoul? I heard it was similar to Belle except the girls get completely naked. I'm going back to Seoul in a couple weeks and would like to give it a try.
I've been to Belle many times and enjoy the service there. I also enjoy VIP across from COEX. You get a much better massage than at Belle and the finish is always nice, but most of the girls won't remove any clothing which is a bit disappointing. I tried Cleopatra during my last visit but got turned away at the door, so it's obviously not foreigner friendly.
I would appreciate any help in finding IVY. [/QUOTE]What's VIP, BELLA and IVY? I'm kinda new to this and would appreciate some insight. How much do they usually charge?
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Viagra
[QUOTE=Firebird; 1132143]It is possible to buy viagra in Seoul? And if yes. Where? Regular pharmacies?
Have a trip coming up. Need to "re-stock". Ha! Ha![/QUOTE]Go to Iteawon. Walk up the main street. Pass McD on the right, BK on the left. Continue walking. Pass Dunkin Donuts on the right. A little ways down on the right is a sex shop. (Second floor I think) Try there for the blue energizer.
Frank
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[QUOTE=Chimmy31;1132172]What's VIP, BELLA and IVY? I'm kinda new to this and would appreciate some insight. How much do they usually charge?[/QUOTE]Belle is in Gagnam. Service is 70, 000 flat rate and includes light touch massage, followed by kissing and licking your back, a couple minutes of BBBJ, and a hand finish. Girls get topless but normally leave panties and skirt on. Most are young and cute. Foreigner friendly. Search this forum for detailed directions.
VIP is right across the street from City Air Terminal. Look for the spinning barber pole with "VIP" and "MASSAGE" on it. Hard to miss. Service is 80, 000. The place is generally a little nicer and cleaner looking than Belle. You change into boxer shorts that they provide, then the girl comes in and gives a full body massage front and back. The massage is more of the legit type and is much better than the one you get at Belle, but at the end the girl will remove your shorts and finish you off by hand. The girls there are also young and cute. The downside is most of them don't remove any clothing. The most I've had happen there is one girl dropped her top for me, but most have stayed fully clothed. Very nice and relaxing though regardless.
Cleopatra is like Belle except the girls get completely naked. Unfortunately they don't seem to be foreigner friendly. I got turned away the one time I tried it.
IVY is supposedly like Cleopatra (like Belle except completely nude). I just don't happen to know where IVY is.
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[QUOTE=Frank M; 1132639]Go to Iteawon. Walk up the main street. Pass McD on the right, BK on the left. Continue walking. Pass Dunkin Donuts on the right. A little ways down on the right is a sex shop. (Second floor I think) Try there for the blue energizer.
Frank[/QUOTE]The Haal (?) pharmacy in itaewon is user friendly, same side as the Taco Bell across the street from the German restaurant. Extra charge for no 'script.
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Pharmacy in Itaewon
What is the rate for the Viagra at the Pharmacy in Iteawon. I plan on going to one of the two places during my current stay and would like to have a refrence on costs.
Thanks,
Frank
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Good news:
Nana, formerly of Moulin Rouge, is back. She's working in one of the bars below it. Contrary to the false posting made by another user on this forum, she did not leave the job because people were talking about her or saying too much. If you've ever heard of the "chrome / trailer hitch" analogy, she would certainly fit the bill.
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Barber poles by Hilton Millenium
I am in the city for a few weeks and have decided to enjoy the massage opportunities the city has to offer. Having enjoyed the barber shop massage places in the past, I ventured out to one I have reported on before. My directions are from the Millennium Hilton where I am staying. With the front of the hotel to my back, I went left to the main road. Continuing left, I crossed the street and took a set of steep steps to the road below. At the road I turned right and crossed to the other side. I walked for about 15 minutes or so. The massage place is in a three story building with a large video screen on top of it. You cannot miss it as you walk down the street. Outside the building are the two poles, inside the building are signs in English and Korean for sports massage. The establishment is on the 3rd floor.
On entering, I was greeted by a lady in her mid 40s (?) who gave me sandals to wear and escorted me to a room with a table and privacy curtain. She collected the house fee of 80k and left. I disrobed and put on a pair of shorts she provided. A few minutes later a cute lady came in, mid to late 30's (?) with nice body. She asked me to lie down on my stomach. To say the massage was excellent would be an understatement. This lady has skills. Along with a great massage, she was wearing a short dress and all the while she was working on my neck and back, she was sitting on me. I easily imagined that the dress was hiked high on her hips with panties showing.
Towards the end of my massage she asked to turn over. More work to the non private body parts proceeded. Again excellent. When it came time for the main event, she left the room and came back a few minutes later. One of her bra / dress straps had fallen from a shoulder, so I went ahead and removed the other one. It was easy to get her to lower her bra for some great nipple sucking. During my sucking she casually played with my Johnson. It was for me a very close GFish experience. After about ten minute of this, she upped the tempo and finished me off quite nicely.
With a sports drink in hand, I dressed and left. As I was walking out the door I gave her a tip. The surprise on her face was worth every won. You could tell she was not expecting it. She followed me out the door and emphatically asked me to return soon. Who knows, I might.
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[QUOTE=Le Lion;1128673]She is not the only one working there, but she has been standing in the doorway everytime I went by there and she is the only one with unusually large breast as far as I know. I don't know exactly how old she is but I guess she is 30 something, not skinny but definitely not a fatty.[/QUOTE]Save your money. More can be had for less.
There is another lady working there on weekend evenings, but not sundays. She has a much better body, IMHO.
Usually ABC has younger and prettier girls after 8 or 9pm most days. ABC is the bar right down the hill next to it. Sign is broken and just says BC.
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[QUOTE=DeepThroat;1134630]Save your money. More can be had for less.[/QUOTE]But I read pretty good reports on Cherry. I was planning on visiting either Cherry or Ji Hye at VIP. May I ask then who is more preferable between those two? I'm mainly going for big natural tits and service on titfuck rather than the whole package. The RLDs in Seoul give poor service so I'm trying out the Hill.
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Dropped by RLDs in Seoul
tried to find cheonho rld in east seoul but no luck! anyone have intel in that area lately?
chongryongni rld is half it once used to be in 2004 but still some good pickings. i met a really sweet 9 girl that you could fall in love with and tried very hard to speak english in the middle street opposite the subway / railroad side. another blond girl named ivy who spoke english and chinese fluently works there too but not gfe. about 40 girls between 5-8 in 4-5am period on friday. bbfs is not on the table (unlike 6 years ago).
passed by yongsan rld for a peek and it seems to be 70% shutdown or in a state of being torn down.
miari might still be the best bet for bbfs.
the rlds away from seoul are getting more and more foreigner unfriendly.
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Rejected at Hill
i have officially concluded that hooker hill does not accept asians. i visited the hill today to check out cherry at happy days. i saw her through the glass door, sitting and watching tv. but right when i was about to approach the door, she shooed me away by waving her hand while still sitting down. i also noticed whenever i'm walking through the hill, none of the girls open their doors wanting me in, and i'm a young, early 20s, half-jap half-korean guy. but when caucasians walk by, they open their doors and try to lure them in. in the end i have no more intentions to visit the hill since i can't get any action there. i can finally understand what the foreigners who monger are going through in korea. but i must say the quality of girls at the hill are not as bad as i read in this forum.
[quote=enchoo; 1135367]passed by yongsan rld for a peek and it seems to be 70% shutdown or in a state of being torn down.
miari might still be the best bet for bbfs. [/quote]i'm also no longer planning on visiting yongsan rld. i checked it out today and only 4 a-row shops and 4 b-row shops were open. pretty surprising since it was saturday. yongsan is officially done.
from all the rlds in seoul, i never visited miari. but as i'm on a quest to look for a natural big breasted korean since i got rejected at the hill, i will check it out soon.
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1st time in Seoul
First time. Did the following as easy spots to find:
VIP across from the Seoul Air Terminal.
Very cute girl, she gave decent massage (clothed) , I fondled her a bit and good oil HJ after. 80k total.
Chyongnyangni red light district. Just head to the station and look for pink lights. There are probably 30+ girls in little glass rooms alot like Holland's districts. Bit older looking crowd of girls, but some lookers for sure.
Itaewon hill. Took a bit to find, its up the hill and up an alley. These bars remind me of vietnam and hk go-go type bars. Girls looked old.
I wonder though. Where are the really young hot girls? I mean 18-22 yo's should be somewhere. Are they accessible by us?
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Abuasian1,
Nothing personal but it's hard to relate to your plight because based on your description of yourself; you are in pussy heaven over here. Just look at how much more access you have available to you. If it is true that the WGs on the hills don't accept Asians, that is a good thing for Weyguks. After all we generally have to endure so much to even attempt to enter the prime time establishments in Korea. I suspect if Asians start frequenting the hill, whitee may become the rejected ones.
As a side note it looks like the gaudy escort site estworld141 site was taken down by the Korean Cops.
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Thai Massage in Itaewon
Does anyone have any info on the Thai massage place in Itaewon. It is just past Goldfish on the same side of the rode. I did a search any did not find any information. It is also not indicated on the off limits map for the US Forces. I am here for my second week and I am looking for another place to explore. Intel on this place would be nice.
Thanks,
Frank M
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Anyone recognize this grizzled old hoe? I remember her hanging out around the Itaewon subway station.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt9HNKJGUtI[/url]
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[QUOTE=Abuasian1;1135037]But I read pretty good reports on Cherry. I was planning on visiting either Cherry or Ji Hye at VIP. May I ask then who is more preferable between those two? I'm mainly going for big natural tits and service on titfuck rather than the whole package. The RLDs in Seoul give poor service so I'm trying out the Hill.[/QUOTE]VIP all the way.
I don't know why people get all gaga about that Cherry. She looks nasty, IMHO. Doesn't even bother to hide the edges of her nipples. Breasts just lay in the clothes like a pair of deflated balloons. Fake contacts. Nasty.
I mean, I can understand a guy wanting a girl with bigger boobs and all, but eeesh.
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Yes, she's still around. Not sure what she's doing. Seems to try to hook you up with a "young lady." Yucky!
[QUOTE=Ezinho; 1135892]Anyone recognize this grizzled old hoe? I remember her hanging out around the Itaewon subway station.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt9HNKJGUtI[/url][/QUOTE]
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Recognize
Yep, always hanging around subway exit and on sidewalk in front of Hamilton Hotel offering blow jobs. Yick!
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[QUOTE=Abuasian1;1135444]I have officially concluded that Hooker Hill does not accept Asians.[/QUOTE]I'm not really sympathetic, since as an Asian, you can get into the primo clubs that foreigners are barred from and score the free poon.
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Any action in Paju / Dongducheon / Suwon / Pyongtaek?
I might just rent a hybrid car to go to Busan and check out what is happening there.
I don't live in Seoul but 2. 5 hours away.
Jeonju and other Jeolla RLDs got foreigner and gyopo unfriendly suddenly.
All of my ATFs are not there anymore.
Viagra or Cialis is probably 15, 000 per pill average in pharmacies with a prescription.
Abuasian, don't sweat over that Hooker Hill adventure. That is the just the way the girls are.
The girls are in this for the money and to satisfy some sort of fetish / fantasy so just play with it.
We are looking for good value for our money. 200,000 won is not always it.
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Where are the young girls?
What's with all these reports about 30 whyear old and 40 whyear old WG's. They should be paying us to do them.
Where are all the young hot chicks? If we're paying they'd better be damn hot!
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[QUOTE=Ezinho; 1135892]Anyone recognize this grizzled old hoe? I remember her hanging out around the Itaewon subway station.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt9HNKJGUtI[/url][/QUOTE]Yes, we called her "Skeletor" way back in 1996. Glad to see that she is still out there on the streets of Itaewon. She seemed to have a very good work ethic and always had her cosmetics / make-up on, and her clothes were always ironed, and she was not too pushy. Friends used to rave about her legendary BJ skills ("don't knock a toothless blow job till you've tried it," they'd say; a "gum job" I think they called it)
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Thai Massage in Iteawon
So, I went the Thai Massage place in Iteawon that I asked about last week. It is 100% legit. They have a menu board on different level of services but nothing sexual or sensual was offered. An excellent place for a massage and relaxing environment though. I went to King Bar afterwards for a beer and eye candy.
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[QUOTE=Ezinho; 1135892]Anyone recognize this grizzled old hoe? I remember her hanging out around the Itaewon subway station.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt9HNKJGUtI[/url][/QUOTE]She's a landmark in Itaewon, don't underestimate this crusty ol'lady. She will rock your world. Get her a buzz and let the good times roll. The guy in the video did.
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[QUOTE=Grimmy23; 1132813]Cleopatra is like Belle except the girls get completely naked. Unfortunately they don't seem to be foreigner friendly. I got turned away the one time I tried it.
IVY is supposedly like Cleopatra (like Belle except completely nude). I just don't happen to know where IVY is. [/QUOTE]Me too, where's Ivy? If you send me a PM of the directions, I'll buy you a big bottle of Cass or Hite.
Cleopatra is open now! Few months ago they were closed down. The quality of the girls varies like Belle but for some reason Cleo seems to attract the freaky ones. Hard to find establishment but can be found by searching the previous postings.
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[QUOTE=Frank M; 1133944]I am in the city for a few weeks and have decided to enjoy the massage opportunities the city has to offer. Having enjoyed the barber shop massage places in the past, I ventured out to one I have reported on before. My directions are from the Millennium Hilton where I am staying. With the front of the hotel to my back, I went left to the main road. Continuing left, I crossed the street and took a set of steep steps to the road below. At the road I turned right and crossed to the other side. I walked for about 15 minutes or so. The massage place is in a three story building with a large video screen on top of it. You cannot miss it as you walk down the street. Outside the building are the two poles, inside the building are signs in English and Korean for sports massage. The establishment is on the 3rd floor.
On entering, I was greeted by a lady in her mid 40s (?) who gave me sandals to wear and escorted me to a room with a table and privacy curtain. She collected the house fee of 80k and left. I disrobed and put on a pair of shorts she provided. A few minutes later a cute lady came in, mid to late 30's (?) with nice body. She asked me to lie down on my stomach. To say the massage was excellent would be an understatement. This lady has skills. Along with a great massage, she was wearing a short dress and all the while she was working on my neck and back, she was sitting on me. I easily imagined that the dress was hiked high on her hips with panties showing.
Towards the end of my massage she asked to turn over. More work to the non private body parts proceeded. Again excellent. When it came time for the main event, she left the room and came back a few minutes later. One of her bra / dress straps had fallen from a shoulder, so I went ahead and removed the other one. It was easy to get her to lower her bra for some great nipple sucking. During my sucking she casually played with my Johnson. It was for me a very close GFish experience. After about ten minute of this, she upped the tempo and finished me off quite nicely.
With a sports drink in hand, I dressed and left. As I was walking out the door I gave her a tip. The surprise on her face was worth every won. You could tell she was not expecting it. She followed me out the door and emphatically asked me to return soon. Who knows, I might. [/QUOTE]Hey Frank,
Thanks for the report and the directions. I followed them today and probably got into a place just before the one you mentioned. Right at the X road. Same 3F nd almost same routine, except that the gal who was wid me did not remove her dress. But still nice massage nd good ending. For 80k.
Nxt time I will try the sports massage one
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Will042
[QUOTE=Will042; 1137585]Me too, where's Ivy? If you send me a PM of the directions, I'll buy you a big bottle of Cass or Hite.
Cleopatra is open now! Few months ago they were closed down. The quality of the girls varies like Belle but for some reason Cleo seems to attract the freaky ones. Hard to find establishment but can be found by searching the previous postings. [/QUOTE]Will,
Can you confirm that Cleo is foreigner friendly? Also, is it the same service as in the past (like Belle, except completely nude?). In your humble opinion, is it worth going there, given a choice between Cleo and Belle? The one time I tried Cleo back in September 2010 I was turned away at the door. The guy at the bottom of the stairs just said "no" and pointed back towards the stairs.
For some reason I like Belle and keep going back. It's probably because I've always had reasonable service from young, pretty girls at a reasonable price there. On the flip side I always leave wishing that the girl had taken everything off instead of just her top.
I'll be in Seoul next week and will probably only have time to hit one place. I'm torn between Belle, Cleo, and VIP.
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ABC on Hooker Hill
Was out walking today at around 2pm in Itaewon, and as always I walked up Hooker Hill just for the exercise and to see how many girls would come out to try to get in to visit. Normally they don't pop their head out until I am at the door but today, as I approached ABC two girls jumped out. Either they have ESP, a CCTV connection or mirrors but they suer knew I was going to pass by before I got there. Sort of funny in a way. Have to give them a pat on the back for being prepared.
FYI, I did not stop anywhere but a short common looking girl apeared at one door as I rounded the top of the Hill on the right. Not your normal looking hill girl. I might have to go back qand check her out.
Frank
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[QUOTE=Princearain; 1137603]Hey Frank,
Thanks for the report and the directions. I followed them today and probably got into a place just before the one you mentioned. Right at the X road. Same 3F nd almost same routine, except that the gal who was wid me did not remove her dress. But still nice massage nd good ending. For 80k.
Nxt time I will try the sports massage one.[/QUOTE]Glad to hear you went out and found a place. I plan on returning to the place I reported on either Monday or Tuesday. As for the removal of clothing, I would suggest that you very gentleman like make the first advance by moving a shoulder strap off and see if that gets you any where. Who knows.
Best of luck.
Frank
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CCD Cameras
Frank,
For years now, the clubs all over Korea have been using CCD cameras outside the doors for seeing not only customers approaching, but also LE (in case the girls might be doing something LE would bust them for, or if soldiers are inside after their curfew). In some places, the cameras are very obvious, others have them well hidden.
HW
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Gangnam area
Years ago now there was a place near Yeoksam station (I forget the name, but I found it through this site) , that was foreigner-friendly and offered HJ for 80, 000 won. Plus you got a choice of clothing for the girl to wear. It was also a leg / fetish place. All the girls had great legs, which, being a leg man, kind of appealed to me. Does anyone know of any similar place anywhere these days?
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FYI, one of the new "ladies" in AB- looks very unladylike. And from the way the newer young heavy one was blinking and fidgeting, I would say she has been up to something she shouldn't lately.
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Any updates in Cheonho, Chongryangni, Paju or Miari?
Anyone have intel there? I might drop by Monday (tomorrow)!
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Around Sinchon & hongdae
Hi guys.
I reported some time ago about IVY and more,
And since that time I can see that some people are wondering where is it!
So I wanted to share a bit my experience there.
1. Cleopatra :
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=485630&wy=1126625&level=2&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=274.93964066453657&tilt=9.358310653803446&zoom=0&panoid=1016098186&screenMode=normal[/url]
Its basic GFE experience. You take shower wait for the girl and.
The firt time I went there, I got a really hot and young girl with really great body and big boobs. She was wearing a black and skinny dress and no underwear. She started by kissing all of my body and doing some slow massage. She was reallly cool and trying to talk with me. And then she removed her dress. I could feel her boobs all along my body. And then asked to turn. She continued to lick and kiss. And arrived around my balls, played a bit with her tong, started to lick my johnson really slowly but never reached the top. Then she came next to me, and came to talk while she was masturbating me. She was asking what I wanted. I started to kiss, lick and touch her tits, its was pretty huge and not fake. After that I asked her if she could continue there, but she kindly refused. I understood that in cleopatra they don't do BJ anymore like it was mentionned in an old review. The feeling with herwas pretty good, and then she came back between my legs, applied some oil on her tits, and started a titfuck. I didn't expect that at all. She knew what she was doing. She didn't rush at all, sometimes giving me handjob and sometimes using her boobs. Paradise. And logically after a while I fell it was the time for something. She then started to go faster (still titfuck) and I came all over her tits and a bit on her face. She was laughing about the situation. She cleaned and we continued to talk together. After, I took a shower and I got the famous bita 500. I left happy and came back to work (it was afternoon). After that exprience I clearly wanted to come back there. This is why maybe 1 month later I decided to try after a long and stresfull day of work. But this time one old man was saying to me NO. Then I asked why and he told me that the shower was broken, but I could find girls in another place. Umh I asked him to show me the way because I couldn't imagine where it was. He came with me outside and we crossed the street. He let me there with a big smile. Ok then. It was not my day for exploration, so I just kept in mind the name of this place for later. It was IVY.
Charge 70. 000W.
HJ.
2. Ivy :
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=485585&wy=1126602&level=2&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=252.71365286175333&tilt=-2.005352282957881&zoom=0&panoid=1016098100&screenMode=normal[/url]
I went there 2 times, and it was pretty much the same so I don't think it changed. First time I went there I just knew that he would be maybe something like cleopatra at least, but not sure. Because I'm not a fan of the soso massage, soso hanjob, and soso girl that is not taking care of customer. This is why exploration is good but you can loose also money for nothing. Anyway so that day I decided to try. First of all, among massage place, this one looks pretty clean, doesn't look like underworld or any dark cave. I asked to the guy the routine, how much, how long and for what. And it seems I could get a BJ so I say okay lets go, lets see. I went to my room, took a shower and waited for the girl on the little bed. And then she came. Young, stunning body in a thin and white transparant dress. I could see everything and no underwear at all, her boobs were a bit small but she was really great looking, hot. She also started to talk, asked to lay down. She did exactly like in cleopatra. Kissing and licking my back, then some massage, removed her dress, then naked on my back and licking. I turned back, kissed my body, started to lick my balls, and. She ate litterally my johnson. She was sucking hard and playing with her tong. Her head was moving up and down, it was a really great BJ. She did it for quite a long time until I jizzed in her mouse. Wow. After that we talked little bit, she bring me to the shower, and gave me a bita 500, and a hugg and byebye. How could I resist to not coming back there. Then I did a 2nd time, I got the same girl, she remembered me. And that time she skipped a bit the process. Instead of keeping her dress, when she saw me, directly at te begining she removed everything and came to the important part really quickly. This girl is a Pro. I don't know how is IVY now. It was 1 year ago.
Charge 70. 000W.
BJ, HJ.
3. Hongdae.
(no map)
Recently I was randomly stopping by Apjeong (not apgujeaong) near hongdae after party, and after a little drink not far, in a street something catched my eye. They was a double barber pole but it was different than usual. I came closer, and inside the building a bit deeper, I could see a big and bright sign with the name of sugar. Style was like a club / bar something like that. Point is it was with a double barber pole, but didn't looks like all of this massage place around. So I decided to give a try. Inside an old girl a bit surprised to see me there. Then I asked her if it was a massage place, she said yes. I asked if they was also some extra like BJ for example. She said yes. Oh ok then how much. 90. 000W. At that time I fell the surprise. So I just asked how old was the agashi. She told me around 40 but really pretty. Ok, important information was 40, why not, its late and I needed some action. I arrived to the small room, it was not a bed but a massage table. I took a shower came back and waited for the girl. Then a women arrived, around 35-40, Chinese (she told me a bit later) not crazy face (but not bad) but her body was really great. She was wearing a dress like other massage place. At that time I fell like okay maybe this time it was a bad choice, but anyway lets try to enjoy. She started to give some massage a bit everywhere, and came on my back, moved to make me feel her pussy, etc. Then she left. I was sure at that point she would bring the hot towel, because from now it was so same. But no. She just bring some stuff with her, asked me to turn back, removed my underwear, and she also removed all of her clothes. OH I think something is going on there. I discovered her body, she was pretty hot, a bubble ass, great tits, really I was so surprised, I couldn't believe it. She started by masturbating me and licking my nipples. I was touching her body, boobs, ass, playing with her pussy (you cannot do that in cleopatra and IVI). She was playing a lot with my balls, my johnson, it was a skillfull handjob. She did some titfuck too. I was pretty hard, she then took a condom, came with me on the massage table, applied it and started to suck. You know many massage place, especially double barber pole, as you know, they pretend to do blowjob or fucking, just by hiding and using their lubrificated hand, but she was not! She was pumping hard, licking all around, she then invited me to fuck her. She turn around and show me her ass. So is started in doggy style, rimming hard. She was doing all the good sound to make it great. The time to change of position I asked her to suck again. I was almost standing up on the table and she was sucking me! Well anyway we did several positions like that until I came. It was simply great, I couldn't believe what happend with this mid30/40 woman, hot like a pornstar. Even while she was removing the condom she was trying to make me crazy and playing with me. Despite old age (compared to other GFE place) this one is for the hardcore party.
Charge 90. 000W.
BJ, FS.
These are some good places I tried.
If anybody is more close like me to sinchon or hongdae, I would be happy to get some advise.
I'm curious to know if around there are some fetish places or anything like this.
Gangnam is too far, I don't want to go there.
Because as you can see, best places are often the hidden one.
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Soo-Ae?
Is Soo-Ae still in play?
I met her a couple months ago while on a business trip to Seoul. I'm back in Asia for a bit and, because of the events in Japan, it looks like I'll have some time to play before I can get my meetings there back on track. Thinking of coming to Seoul to cool my heels if I could hook up with Soo-Ae again.
Here's the back story. Although a long-time hobbyist, I wasn't aware of this forum until very recently and I've generally confined my adventures to my home turf in Europe (FKKs) with some forays into southeast Asia. Although my recent visit was my first to Seoul, I was aware of Itaewon / Hooker Hill from a friend and found it easily enough. Walked around a bit, and met Soo-Ae when she popped open her door as I walked by and invited me in for a drink. Had a couple glasses of wine with her and we seemed to hit it off, so I asked if she would go out for dinner and then back to my hotel. She agreed. She turned out to be a very delightful dinner companion and, suffice it to say, a really excellent provider; KW has more than adequately described her charms and talents. I'll just add that I was so impressed that I asked her out for a follow-up date the following evening for more of the same.
Let me know if I come to Seoul packing I won't be disappointed to discover she's left the life.
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Visit to the same Barber pole establishment with more extras
I returned to the Barber pole establishment I reported on two weeks ago. Since I tipped last time I was hoping my return visit would bring more benefits. And it did. In spades.
First some general info: They remembered me from before. Good start! The girl said her name was Micky (right!) but it was easy for me to remember. I would say mid 30s with a nice face and body. Also, they play some really great backgound music. A mix of english and european language songs. And finally in the general catagory, it was warm. The massage table was heated. My first ever. Not sure I liked it or not.
Now to the specifics, The massage was the same as before. Excellent. That girl can sure press hard. When she was sitting on my back, she started moving her crouch up and down, so I recipicated by moving my ass into her at the same rythem. That got the mood set right!
After the flip and a little more massage she started the move towards my johnson. At that moment, I reached up and removed her dress straps and slowly pulled down her top. Some nipple sucking led to titty fucking which led to a nice BBBJ. I think she was moving to go for some other action but I blew my load. A little early but it was all great.
I did get some great ass play in also. Nice tiger striped panties. I think one more visit is in store before I leave.
Frank
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Lost
[QUOTE=Frank M; 1138698]I returned to the Barber pole establishment I reported on two weeks ago. Since I tipped last time I was hoping my return visit would bring more benefits. And it did. In spades.
First some general info: They remembered me from before. Good start! The girl said her name was Micky (right!) but it was easy for me to remember. I would say mid 30s with a nice face and body. Also, they play some really great backgound music. A mix of english and european language songs. And finally in the general catagory, it was warm. The massage table was heated. My first ever. Not sure I liked it or not.
Now to the specifics, The massage was the same as before. Excellent. That girl can sure press hard. When she was sitting on my back, she started moving her crouch up and down, so I recipicated by moving my ass into her at the same rythem. That got the mood set right!
After the flip and a little more massage she started the move towards my johnson. At that moment, I reached up and removed her dress straps and slowly pulled down her top. Some nipple sucking led to titty fucking which led to a nice BBBJ. I think she was moving to go for some other action but I blew my load. A little early but it was all great.
I did get some great ass play in also. Nice tiger striped panties. I think one more visit is in store before I leave.
Frank[/QUOTE]Hey Frank,
It seems we share the same taste for places.
I've tried to figure out the place you mention (the one going from the HIlton) but, although I know that area pretty well (stayed there several times) , I can't understand your directions.
You go down the road towards Nandemun, correct? Then, from there, having the monument on your back and the street market in front of you. What do you do?
Cheers,
Sauro07
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Charges
[QUOTE=Frank M; 1138698]I returned to the Barber pole establishment I reported on two weeks ago. Since I tipped last time I was hoping my return visit would bring more benefits. And it did. In spades.
First some general info: They remembered me from before. Good start! The girl said her name was Micky (right!) but it was easy for me to remember. I would say mid 30s with a nice face and body. Also, they play some really great backgound music. A mix of english and european language songs. And finally in the general catagory, it was warm. The massage table was heated. My first ever. Not sure I liked it or not.
Now to the specifics, The massage was the same as before. Excellent. That girl can sure press hard. When she was sitting on my back, she started moving her crouch up and down, so I recipicated by moving my ass into her at the same rythem. That got the mood set right!
After the flip and a little more massage she started the move towards my johnson. At that moment, I reached up and removed her dress straps and slowly pulled down her top. Some nipple sucking led to titty fucking which led to a nice BBBJ. I think she was moving to go for some other action but I blew my load. A little early but it was all great.
I did get some great ass play in also. Nice tiger striped panties. I think one more visit is in store before I leave.
Frank[/QUOTE]Could you indicate how much was the charges? 70,000?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=MenMyFranknstein; 1138662]Is Soo-Ae still in play?
I met her a couple months ago while on a business trip to Seoul. I'm back in Asia for a bit and, because of the events in Japan, it looks like I'll have some time to play before I can get my meetings there back on track. Thinking of coming to Seoul to cool my heels if I could hook up with Soo-Ae again.
Here's the back story. Although a long-time hobbyist, I wasn't aware of this forum until very recently and I've generally confined my adventures to my home turf in Europe (FKKs) with some forays into southeast Asia. Although my recent visit was my first to Seoul, I was aware of Itaewon / Hooker Hill from a friend and found it easily enough. Walked around a bit, and met Soo-Ae when she popped open her door as I walked by and invited me in for a drink. Had a couple glasses of wine with her and we seemed to hit it off, so I asked if she would go out for dinner and then back to my hotel. She agreed. She turned out to be a very delightful dinner companion and, suffice it to say, a really excellent provider; KW has more than adequately described her charms and talents. I'll just add that I was so impressed that I asked her out for a follow-up date the following evening for more of the same.
Let me know if I come to Seoul packing I won't be disappointed to discover she's left the life.[/QUOTE]She was as of a month ago, most likely still is.
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Charges at Barberpole establishment
[QUOTE=Playboy2001; 1138944]Could you indicate how much was the charges? 70, 000?
Thanks[/QUOTE]House fee was 80, 000 and I tipped 30, 000.
Frank
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Dirctions to barber place
[QUOTE=Sauro07; 1138871]Hey Frank,
It seems we share the same taste for places.
I've tried to figure out the place you mention (the one going from the HIlton) but, although I know that area pretty well (stayed there several times) , I can't understand your directions.
You go down the road towards Nandemun, correct? Then, from there, having the monument on your back and the street market in front of you. What do you do?
Cheers,
Sauro07[/QUOTE]OK. As you walk out of the Hilton, stay close to the hotel and walk to the left towards Luck Seven entrance. Continue around the drive (traffic is now coming towards you from off the street) and Luck Seven entrance is to your back, you will see a drive on your left going down the hill. Turn there and walk down to the street below. The bottom off the drive is steep. At the road, there is a walking bridge to your left, turn right, and walk under the street above. Cross the road at the next cross walk, and continue going right. You will pass by sporting goods / clothing stores, optical shops, etc. The first major intersection will have an Outback Steak house on the left corner. Staying on the same side of the road, cross the street (Outback is to your back now) Continue walking. Cross another major intersection and look for the big screen on top of a three story building. The poles will be out front, and the sign for massage will be inside at the entrance. Upstairs. 3rd floor.
Good Luck,
Frank
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Thanks
[QUOTE=Frank M; 1139077]Good Luck,
Frank[/QUOTE]Now that you mentioned going down after the casino and the Outback rest, I think I know what you are talking about. Let's see, will get back here.
Cheers
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Gangnam Area for Gyopo
I am currently visiting Seoul and staying in Gangnam. I am full blooded Korean and speak Korean nearly fluently. I'm looking to cross two things off my bucket list (a pro and a Korean) and really am looking to do this as a one time thing.
I've perused this forum and the names that consistently pop up for the area are Belle, Cool, and Baek Song. Which of the anma's / officetels in Gangnam offer the most attractive girls? I am willing to pay up to 200k for FS and am looking for a girl who is at least an 8. 5 with an athletic build (think college cheerleader).
I appreciate any help and will come back with details of my exploits.
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Cleopatra, Ivy, Belle, & VIP
Difficult couple of nights for me in Seoul.
I started out at Cleopatra based on recent reviews. I knew exactly where Cleo was since I tried going there back in September 2010, but was turned away at the door. This time, I showed up around 8:30 PM on a Monday only to find the place dark and the door locked with a barracade (plastic sawhorse type) in front of the door. Not a good sign.
Thanks to a recent report on here, I knew that Ivy was basically right across the street. That was my plan B for the night in case I couldn't get into Cleo. Unfortunately, Ivy was also locked up tight. Major bummer. It was about a 45-minute subway ride out to Sinchon, and now I was faced with a 45-minute return subway ride after coming up empty. I was tired and decided to just go back to my hotel for the night.
The next night I decided to go to an old standby of mine, Belle. I arrived around 7:30 PM and was met at the door by a young, attractive Korean girl. Unfortunately she told me they were full and I shoudl go back in an hour. Ok, no problem. I hung around the area, had a little dinner, and went back an hour later. This time, when the same girl answered the door and saw me, her shoulders slumped, and she said "I'm sorry, but we are completely full for the night." She handed me a card with Belle's phone number on it and told me to call for reservations next time. Wow, now I'm really feeling like hard luck. I've never been turned away at Belle before.
On the way back up the stairs I met up with a super cute Korean girl who was headed into Belle wearing her street clothes (jeans and a sweater). I figured she was one of the girls going in to work for the evening. Now I'm really feeling hot and bothered. I can't help imagining myself laying on the table with her top down and my dick in her mouth. I just had to go somewhere for a little stress relief, so I decided to head to VIP. I had been to VIP once before but only got a clothed HJ with no hint of anything else being available, but what the hell. It was worth another shot.
At VIP it was the usual routine. 80K at the entrance, change into boxers and wait for the girl to show up. In walks a TINY little Korean girl wearing a very slinky little dress that barely covered her butt. Seriously, this girl couldn't have weighed more than about 75 pounds. She was cute but not a knockout. Maybe face 6 and body. Umm, there wasn't one. Basically a toothpick, but she had very nice, soft legs so I'll give her a 7. She went to work with an ok massage on my back with hot towels and oil. Not professional massage quality by any means, but felt good. I felt up her legs and at one point she said "massage only, ok?" I said ok but kept feeling her smooth, sikly legs, and she didn't object. After about 15 minutes of massage she pulled my boxers off and asked me to flip over. As she massaged my front I kept feeling her legs. Within a few minutes she got to my dick and oiled it up. I lifted up her dress and started feeling up her butt through her underwear, and when she didn't object to that I slipped my hand under the back of her panties. Now she stopped what she was doing and said "tip. 50, 000." Again, I thought what the hell and gave her the extra 50K. Immediately, she dropped her top and, much to my surprise, took her panties off. She continued the HJ and didn't mind where my hands went. She had almost no tits to speak of but it was still fun to play with this very slinky naked body, especially with her soft, smooth, silky skin.
In the end, it really wasn't worth it. 130K total for a naked HJ while my hands roamed at will. Consdering you can get almost the same service for half that amount at Belle or Cleo (if I could ever get into the damn place) I wouldn't go back. VIP does seem to be a mixed bag though. In two trips I have had a clothed HJ with no hint of extras being available, and a naked HJ after an extra tip. I'm really not sure what to expect in that place anymore. The girls there are young and cute though.
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I read 5 years ago about Jangam Dong. Is this place still happening BBS?
ANyone have intel about Jangam Dong? Is it still happening?
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[QUOTE=Frank M; 1139077]OK. As you walk out of the Hilton, stay close to the hotel and walk to the left towards Luck Seven entrance. Continue around the drive (traffic is now coming towards you from off the street) and Luck Seven entrance is to your back, you will see a drive on your left going down the hill. Turn there and walk down to the street below. The bottom off the drive is steep. At the road, there is a walking bridge to your left, turn right, and walk under the street above. Cross the road at the next cross walk, and continue going right. You will pass by sporting goods / clothing stores, optical shops, etc. The first major intersection will have an Outback Steak house on the left corner. Staying on the same side of the road, cross the street (Outback is to your back now) Continue walking. Cross another major intersection and look for the big screen on top of a three story building. The poles will be out front, and the sign for massage will be inside at the entrance. Upstairs. 3rd floor.
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Wouldn't it be easier to say it's only a half block down the street from Migliore?
Myeong-dong station, exit 5, wlak down the sidewalk past Migliore, past Sandpresso, and the double poles are right there on the corner.
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[QUOTE=Coitus68; 1139837]Wouldn't it be easier to say it's only a half block down the street from Migliore?
Myeong-dong station, exit 5, wlak down the sidewalk past Migliore, past Sandpresso, and the double poles are right there on the corner.[/QUOTE]I guess. For you. I am a tourist. If you gave me the directions you wrote and asked me to follow them, I would have given up and gone back to my hotel.
Anyway, Enjoy.
Frank
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Massage places
VIP, Belle, Cool, Cleopatra, Ivy, Endorphin (aka the double pole by Myeongdong Migliore)
They've all been discussed here in detail; prices, locations, Daum street maps, services provided.
But when do they open for business?
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[QUOTE=Frank M;1139905]I guess. For you. I am a tourist. If you gave me the directions you wrote and asked me to follow them, I would have given up and gone back to my hotel.[/QUOTE]You meander all over the area to find a hole in the wall, but you'd give up when given directions 100m away from the place? A straight line from subway exit to the double poles, in under 60 seconds?
I think you're a little confused.
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Rain. Gagnam
Has anybody tried Rain Massage in Gagnam? It is on the same street at Belle and Cool, less than 5 minutes walking distance from both. Very hard to miss with a big neon sign, and it's a multi-floor building. I walked past it but didn't go in. Generally doesn't look like a place with anything "non-legit" happening, but the thing that makes me suspicious is there are curtains in front of the parking lot, similar to some of the love hotels in Japan so you can drive a car in there and have a little privacy when you get out of the car. I'd be interested in hearing if anybody has tried it.
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[QUOTE=Enchoo;1139575]ANyone have intel about Jangam Dong? Is it still happening?[/QUOTE]Yes and no. Big crackdown happened there 2 years ago. Police even ripped tubs out of massage places en masse. Not what it once was, but some stuff apparently goes on more hidden, I guess.
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[QUOTE=Grimmy23; 1137813]Will,
Can you confirm that Cleo is foreigner friendly? Also, is it the same service as in the past (like Belle, except completely nude?). In your humble opinion, is it worth going there, given a choice between Cleo and Belle? The one time I tried Cleo back in September 2010 I was turned away at the door. The guy at the bottom of the stairs just said "no" and pointed back towards the stairs.
For some reason I like Belle and keep going back. It's probably because I've always had reasonable service from young, pretty girls at a reasonable price there. On the flip side I always leave wishing that the girl had taken everything off instead of just her top.
I'll be in Seoul next week and will probably only have time to hit one place. I'm torn between Belle, Cleo, and VIP. [/QUOTE]You usually can't go wrong with Belle although lately they seem to have alot of business and turn away walk-ins. Recommend making reservation or walk-in prior to 4pm. I rarely go there because I have other places I frequent. The girls at Belle follow the rule not to take everything off but other places vary. I can't recommend a place where they are fully nude because its really up to the girl to decide how far to go.
I can recommend some alternate places in the event Belle turns you away. There is White's and Lamp, which are a few kilometers NE from Belle. PM me for directions. If you do find a girl who provides outstanding service, get her name and always make a reservation for her. I always tip good. 20k or a bottle of J&B seems to do it.
As for Cleo, I went there last summer. The door guy does not speak any English so maybe he is uncomfortable trying to communicate with you. Maybe they didn't have any girls available for walk-ins. The last few times I went there, the door was locked so I assumed they had shut down. I usually go in the afternoons so maybe they are only open at night. When they were open, the girls were always more receptive of getting fully nude and more GFE than Belle.
If only time to hit one place, go to Belle since we know for a fact it is open for business.
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[QUOTE=Georges Orwell; 1138352]Hi guys.
3. Hongdae.
(no map)
Recently I was randomly stopping by Apjeong (not apgujeaong) near hongdae after party, and after a little drink not far, in a street something catched my eye. They was a double barber pole but it was different than usual. I came closer, and inside the building a bit deeper, I could see a big and bright sign with the name of sugar. Style was like a club / bar something like that. Point is it was with a double barber pole, but didn't looks like all of this massage place around.[/QUOTE]George,
Can you give more detailed instructions how to find this place? And by Apjeong, did you mean Hapjeong? What's a good landmark to start at? A search for Apjeong in Seoul on Google turns up nothing. It seems like there are so few places other than the Hill that offer FS.
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Good anma
[QUOTE=Wfsswmr7285; 1139346]I am currently visiting Seoul and staying in Gangnam. I am full blooded Korean and speak Korean nearly fluently. I'm looking to cross two things off my bucket list (a pro and a Korean) and really am looking to do this as a one time thing.
I've perused this forum and the names that consistently pop up for the area are Belle, Cool, and Baek Song. Which of the anma's / officetels in Gangnam offer the most attractive girls? I am willing to pay up to 200k for FS and am looking for a girl who is at least an 8. 5 with an athletic build (think college cheerleader).
I appreciate any help and will come back with details of my exploits.[/QUOTE]Just go anywhere south of tehan-ro (the big road that connects kangnam station to samsung station) Look for the big red neon signs that say an-ma. There's a few particularly good ones south of kangnam station at bang-bang sagoeri. NE corner along the back streets.
Officetel's around Seolleung station will be cheaper, but the girls won't be as pretty, around 120-150. But you get more GFE if that's what you're after.
The hottest girls will be bought from a karoake, but that will cost you about 400 (for a group of 4) or more and then the ee-cha charge will be another 150 or so.
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Millennium Hotel
To all the Seoul "experts". Any places with talent near the Millennium hotel?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Firebird;1142213]To all the Seoul "experts". Any places with talent near the Millennium hotel?[/QUOTE]RTFF.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/search.php?searchid=244547[/url]
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[QUOTE=Coitus68; 1143961]RTFF.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/search.php?searchid=244547[/url][/QUOTE]Hey smart Ass. I DID RTFF! Nothing came up. Been mongering more longer then you so always offered information on my trip. I you have nothing to offer. Shut it
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[QUOTE=Blueseoul; 1141009]Just go anywhere south of tehan-ro (the big road that connects kangnam station to samsung station) Look for the big red neon signs that say an-ma. There's a few particularly good ones south of kangnam station at bang-bang sagoeri. NE corner along the back streets.
Officetel's around Seolleung station will be cheaper, but the girls won't be as pretty, around 120-150. But you get more GFE if that's what you're after.
The hottest girls will be bought from a karoake, but that will cost you about 400 (for a group of 4) or more and then the ee-cha charge will be another 150 or so.[/QUOTE]I am coming to Korea and I have very passable Korean language skills. Anma should be easy to find if there's big signs like that. What about officetels? How do you find those?
Also, by karaoke are you referring to room salon? If so, is there a huge charge if you go by yourself? I don't mind paying 400 just to drink.
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First p4p
Had my first p4p experience this eve.
Checked out a barbershop / massage parlor I'd been aware of for quite a while, the big pole spinning 24/7 outside and a series of poles leading down to the door are good signs I guess.
I opened the door, greeted by a women maybe 35ish, busty, full-figured, nice face, and asked in my limited Korean whether now was a good time for a massage. But of course! She's wearing a pretty conservative top and a fairly short school-girl skirt.
I try to ask if the place offers "other services"."dal-un seo-bi-suh isseyo?". To which she replied no. I figured at that point that I was just in for a straight massage. Not what I was hoping for, but for the first time at this sort of place, what the hell. As I was to discover I just didn't ask the right question (any help how to ask that in Korean?)
I have no idea what to expect. She leads me to a room with a heated table, asks for 70000won, and she helps me take my clothes off save boxers and I get up on the table face up. She slowly washes my feet in a sink at the foot of the bed. Next she walks out and comes back with hot towels which she uses to rub down my face, neck, and arms.
At this point things are feeling intimate. I'm smiling at her a lot, making appreciative noises, etc, telling her that it feels great. As she walks out to get a fresh batch of towels I try touching her, first on the hip, to gauge the reaction. She doesn't seem to mind. I feel further, down her thigh, then fondling her cheeks. Things are moving in the right direction!
I make a pass at her tits and she says what in retrospect must have meant "just wait," so I back off for the moment. When she goes out again her hand passes briefly over my johnson and I make sure to let her know that's what I was hoping for.
When she comes back again, she's taken off the top, leaving a low-cut blouse underneath. I'm turned over, face down, and she mounts me on top, giving what I'm sure is a very poor massage in the great scheme of things but I'm loving it nonetheless, rocking my hips with hers, meanwhile she's laughing I guess at my eagerness. I reach back and fondle her legs, kiss her hands, etc.
After maybe 5 minutes of this she asks me if I want to turn over. Sure! She takes off my boxers and now I take the initiative. Puling down her blouse, revealing a set of very soft, large, still shapely tits which I then begin to suck as she starts giving hand service. Meanwhile I've moved up from playing with her thighs with my hand to realizing that she's taken her panties off (maybe she never had them on.) She's already wet and I reciprocate with my hand. She's moaning more than me, and for 10 minutes or so we are locked into this bliss.
I'm getting close to blowing, and after asking her to slow down a number of times she's still accelerating. My next thought is hoping she'll go for the BJ, but this was not to be. Finally I figure I'm more than happy with my money's worth, and let fly. She cleans up with copious towels, and we make some small talk, names, etc.
She asks me if I want to sleep, and I say no. Do I want a vita500? Hell yeah! She let's me suck her tits and we cuddle for a while as we make small talk, before she helps me get dressed and out the door. I give her a 10000won tip and she implores me to come back.
What I learned from my first foray into the hobby:
1) don't rush the experience, and.
2) should have done this sooner!
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[QUOTE=Blinkblink; 1145795]Had my first p4p experience this eve.
Checked out a barbershop / massage parlor I'd been aware of for quite a while, the big pole spinning 24/7 outside and a series of poles leading down to the door are good signs I guess.
I opened the door, greeted by a women maybe 35ish, busty, full-figured, nice face, and asked in my limited Korean whether now was a good time for a massage. But of course! She's wearing a pretty conservative top and a fairly short school-girl skirt.
I try to ask if the place offers "other services"."dal-un seo-bi-suh isseyo?". To which she replied no. I figured at that point that I was just in for a straight massage. Not what I was hoping for, but for the first time at this sort of place, what the hell. As I was to discover I just didn't ask the right question (any help how to ask that in Korean?)
I have no idea what to expect. She leads me to a room with a heated table, asks for 70000won, and she helps me take my clothes off save boxers and I get up on the table face up. She slowly washes my feet in a sink at the foot of the bed. Next she walks out and comes back with hot towels which she uses to rub down my face, neck, and arms.
At this point things are feeling intimate. I'm smiling at her a lot, making appreciative noises, etc, telling her that it feels great. As she walks out to get a fresh batch of towels I try touching her, first on the hip, to gauge the reaction. She doesn't seem to mind. I feel further, down her thigh, then fondling her cheeks. Things are moving in the right direction!
I make a pass at her tits and she says what in retrospect must have meant "just wait," so I back off for the moment. When she goes out again her hand passes briefly over my johnson and I make sure to let her know that's what I was hoping for.
When she comes back again, she's taken off the top, leaving a low-cut blouse underneath. I'm turned over, face down, and she mounts me on top, giving what I'm sure is a very poor massage in the great scheme of things but I'm loving it nonetheless, rocking my hips with hers, meanwhile she's laughing I guess at my eagerness. I reach back and fondle her legs, kiss her hands, etc.
After maybe 5 minutes of this she asks me if I want to turn over. Sure! She takes off my boxers and now I take the initiative. Puling down her blouse, revealing a set of very soft, large, still shapely tits which I then begin to suck as she starts giving hand service. Meanwhile I've moved up from playing with her thighs with my hand to realizing that she's taken her panties off (maybe she never had them on.) She's already wet and I reciprocate with my hand. She's moaning more than me, and for 10 minutes or so we are locked into this bliss.
I'm getting close to blowing, and after asking her to slow down a number of times she's still accelerating. My next thought is hoping she'll go for the BJ, but this was not to be. Finally I figure I'm more than happy with my money's worth, and let fly. She cleans up with copious towels, and we make some small talk, names, etc.
She asks me if I want to sleep, and I say no. Do I want a vita500? Hell yeah! She let's me suck her tits and we cuddle for a while as we make small talk, before she helps me get dressed and out the door. I give her a 10000won tip and she implores me to come back.
What I learned from my first foray into the hobby:
1) don't rush the experience, and.
2) should have done this sooner! [/QUOTE]Completely typical massage joint experience.
First you get a massage, then they take off their clothes / top, etc and they get down to business. Unfortunately, this business tends to be very mechanical and completely non GFE, so best reserved for pure blueball release. Afterwards, you're offered a canned coffee or energy drink and you have the option of sleeping there for a while. Since the clientele is almost all Korean, they stumble in completely drunk on soju and after blowing their load (s) surely fall asleep, hence that option is almost a necessity for the locals.
You'll know whether it's full service by the price quoted. If it's 100K plus, odds are there's intercourse involved, if it's 70K or so, then it'll be handjob. Another way to find out is to do the Korean hand sign for screwing, which is tapping one hand palm down on top of the other hand, made into a fist and turned sideways. Think of the old Three Stooges movies and how Curly likes to do that thing with his hands
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Squirt show
Just wrote up the report below and it went pretty long, so I'll put up a summary first. Very hot squirter near yeoksam station: 140, 000 / hr. Hard to get a reservation and she only sees Koreans, Korean / Americans. Maybe other Asian ethnicities if they can speak Korean. Gyopos who can speak Korean pretty well, PM me for info. For the non Asian friends: I might be able to get a contact for a high class massage parlor that accepts foreigners from her.
Just been mongering at the Cheonho RLD at a couple of my favorite houses, but I recently read about a squirter in Yeoksam from a Korean site. She works at a type of shop the Koreans like to call "designated fucking room" &45824; &46497; &48169; . These shops are setup very much like the massage / HJ places like Belle and Cool, but you get 30min FS for 70, 000-90, 000 won. I tried to make a reservation to see her for about a week with no luck, she was booked full everytime I called. I called on a Sunday afternoon to see if I might be lucky and got a reservation as her first customer of the day. However she only takes long time customers. 1hr for 140, 000 not a problem.
The place is really easy to find, about a 5min walk straight out of Yeoksam station exit #1. Got lead to a pretty big room, but 2/3 of it was the shower so the actual room was a bit cramped. After showering and waiting a bit, a very cute girl in her mid 20s came in. She had a cute squirrely face with nice full Bs and a pretty meaty ass. She's hot, I'd probably see her even if she wasn't a squirter. Her breasts were very firm and she has amazing pink nipples.
After a smoke and a bit of light talk, she took off her big sweater and I saw that she had on one of those butterfly thongs with an open crotch, so hot. She told me to start sucking her tits then moved down to her pussy. She pretty much directed me on how to suck and finger her pussy and after a few min, I saw a clear gel accumulate inside her vag and then she shot some liquid in my face with good amount of force. I didn't get that good of a facial since she covered it with her hand after the initial spray. This definitely wasn't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] unless she drinks a ton of water. It had almost no smell and it just had a slightly salty taste. I have no fucking idea what that thick gel was either. I don't think she came in with some lube already jammed up her pussy. After some more sucking and fingering shot #2 came.
After the second shot, she gave me a great but pretty short BJ, then put on the cover and started missionary. She's pretty tight but she's a screamer and a very dirty talker. I read that she was pretty loud beforehand, but I was still surprised. Maybe it was cause I drank too much the other night or maybe the screaming really did bother me, but I went limp about 5min in. She was pretty cool about it and took off the cover and sucked me until I got hard again, put it back on, then she rode me for a few min. I finished pretty quickly this time.
After another smoke and some chatting, she asked me if I wanted to masturbate together. She gave me another short but great BJ to get me hard then she stood over me while masturbating for shot #3 all over my chest and face. Then I pulled her down in the 69 position and started fingering her and told her to give me a HJ. Shot #4 came out almost at the same time my second pop came.
While we were chatting she mentioned that she has some friends who are working in Canada and Australia, so I thought she might be open to foreigners but she said she isn't. I even asked if she would for 300k or 400k she still wasn't interested. She did mention a high class massage place she used to work at that had girls who would take foreign customers. She said that she would give me the number to one of the managers there, but after showering I forgot to ask her for the number. I'd remember to get it from her if I can see her again.
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Any friendly people here?
Hi guys stumbled upon this site looking for advice on how to enjoy korea!
First time I went to an anma was a couple of days ago to a place near kangnam that was recommended to me by a taxi driver (who probably gets paid to lead customers here) and paid an even 200000 for what seems to be a normal anma experience with a 26 year old girl with no tits and an average at best face.
What I'm angry at myself about is that I seemed to have paid too much for sex with a chick that I couldn't even choose (the coordinator guy just put me into the room.) for like a 20 minute fuck all the while she was just waiting for me to finish.
I was just wondering, at these Anma places, how are you able to choose the girl you want to fuck? Because I seriously thought about asking to change the girl, but since I was already in the room, I felt bad for the girl if I just walked out and asked for a change.
AND finally I was wondering if there are anyone who wants to meet up for a drink and go to an anma or a RLD in Seoul because I'm just here for a holiday and I'm finding it hard to meet people due to a lack of knowledge on where to meet people who are interested in the RLD as much as I am =)
I'm a 21yo full korean who live in Australia and just want to meet anyone whos needs a buddy in visiting the RLD!
Pm me or something please LOL
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[QUOTE=Firebird;1144106]Hey smart Ass. I DID RTFF! Nothing came up. Been mongering more longer then you so always offered information on my trip. I you have nothing to offer. Shut it[/QUOTE]There are plenty of posts about the Millenium. I've seen them over the years pop up here and there.
So, like Coitus said, RTFF.
And by the way, when you come into a new forum for a city / place you're not familiar, it's not customary for you to be a dick to the long time members of that area.
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[QUOTE=Zarcady; 1146450]Hi guys stumbled upon this site looking for advice on how to enjoy korea!
I'm a 21yo full korean who live in Australia and just want to meet anyone whos needs a buddy in visiting the RLD! [/QUOTE]Z.
The best advice I can think of, is quit trying to go the the places that foreigners go to. If you are full blooded Korean, and can speak it, go to the Korean only places. You have a much better chance of getting laid by many beauties in Korea than most of us obvious foreigners have.
If that doesn't work, leave Korea and go someplace where your money will get you much more than in Korea. Many full time expats in Korea save their money and go to Thailand or Philippines. For the price of 3 or 4 anma / RLD / hooker hill visits, you can buy a ticket to one of those places, and get laid 10 times as much for that amount again. And the added benefit is that you do get to choose the girl you want!
IMHO.
HW
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[QUOTE=Zarcady; 1146450]I'm a 21yo full korean who live in Australia and just want to meet anyone whos needs a buddy in visiting the RLD!
Pm me or something please LOL[/QUOTE]Since you're already in Korea, I don't mind helping out a fellow gyopo, but you'll need to buy a subscription to get PMs enabled. Most RLD can be easily found if you search the site: Cheonho, Yongsan, Miari. 588, and you'll easily get service if you can speak Korean. I recommend Cheonho. 70k short time. 140k / hr. Since you're 21 you can probably get 2 pops in an hour easily. BBFS available from most of the girls if desired.
You can't choose at most of the anma places, but it's ok to ask for another girl. For an interesting anma experience, go to 'Hue' Anma near the Renaissance Hotel in between Yeoksam and Seolleung station. The name is in Korean, hue is the pronunciation, can't seem to type in Korean. They have a silhouette (sill-roo-at korean pronunciation) choice event during weekday afternoons. You go to the girls waiting room and choose 2 from whoever is free at the moment. You see their faces, not sure why it's called a silhouette choice. The reviewer I read said there were 9 girls in the room. You take the 2 girls to the room and one will ride you for a few pumps while the other licks your body, then they will change positions. Afterwards, you pick the girl you want and have the typical anma service with her. 200k + whatever the event charge is (probably 20-30k).
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Went to Itaewon, and man, it's the low of the low. I almost threw up just lookin at the pickins.
Went to 588 and they had a few good ones, but not good enough so I passed. I got a taxi to Miari.
Miari is the best. However, the anmas only accept koreans. And I had to be careful that my american accent didn't make them suscipious. Best service and best looks.
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I guess you told me
[QUOTE=Looking Inrok; 1146768]There are plenty of posts about the Millenium. I've seen them over the years pop up here and there.
So, like Coitus said, RTFF.
And by the way, when you come into a new forum for a city / place you're not familiar, it's not customary for you to be a dick to the long time members of that area. [/QUOTE]Plenty of posts? You don't think I did my homework by searching the Forum as I always do before a trip. Yup. There is one recent post concerning a massage place near the Milllennium and couple "old". "stale" posts from 2010. Hmmm. I guess you call that a lot of information. No problem. I'll find my way. Since you."expert" of Korea feel to big to provide "friendly" information. In any case I wish you a fine day.
Just came back from week's worth of mongering in Prague and heading out for more fun in Hong Kong
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I guess you told me
[QUOTE=Looking Inrok; 1146768]There are plenty of posts about the Millenium. I've seen them over the years pop up here and there.
So, like Coitus said, RTFF.
And by the way, when you come into a new forum for a city / place you're not familiar, it's not customary for you to be a dick to the long time members of that area. [/QUOTE]Plenty of posts? You don't think I did my homework by searching the Forum as I always do before a trip. Yup. There is one recent post concerning a massage place near the Milllennium and couple "old"."stale" posts from 2010. Hmmm. I guess you call that a lot of information. No problem. I'll find my way. Since you."expert" of Korea feel to big to provide "friendly" information. In any case I wish you a fine day.
Just came back from week's worth of mongering in Prague and heading out for more fun in Hong Kong
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[QUOTE=Firebird;1144106]Hey smart Ass. I DID RTFF! Nothing came up.[/quote]How would any of us know you did, judging by the question you asked. When you ask a newbie question, prepared to get the response all newbies get.
[quote]Been mongering more longer then you[/quote]Seriously doubt it, son.
[quote]I you have nothing to offer. Shut it[/QUOTE]I guess you didn't actually RTFF, or you would have noticed my post a few weeks back. Your kind of attitude will get you a whole lot of nothing as far as future advice and recommendations go.
Thankfully, I share my info mostly through PMs, so entitled choads like you don't get any.
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[QUOTE=Coitus68;1147124]When you ask a newbie question, prepared to get the response all newbies get.[/QUOTE]Maybe if this forum had 'stickies' and we could create individual threads for each topic, we wouldn't have to read the same newbie questions over and over again. Instead, all posts, no matter what the content, gets put in one massive thread. Who is going to read through 300 pages of the forum just to find the answer they are looking for? Why can't this forum have a sticky where we can post an FAQ answering most newbie questions? And why can't we create individual threads LIKE EVERY OTHER FORUM ON THE INTERNET! If we had these two things, I bet there would be less newbie questions posted here, and more posts with worthwhile content.
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To Gildo
Cheers for replying! I didn't know I had to subscribe to get the PMs enabled. Nevertheless I subscribed and its telling me I need to wait 24 hours for the account to be activated LOL!
Anyway I appreciate your offer and would love to meet up for a drink and experience the real Seoul haha.
I guess what people say about needing a friend to get around is true!
I really want to find and bang a 9/10 or even a 10/10 girl while I'm here because I can never find any decent korean chicks in Australia to my liking and I hope you can find it in your heart to help out a young fledgling experience the best night of his life in Korea here!
I realise that these places can kind of be a hit and miss with the chicks and since I'm still a uni student with a budget left of around 1000000 won, I can't really go out every night to randomly expect a really fine young lady of my korean dreams haha! So I would really need your experience around here =D.
So Drop me a pm please!
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[QUOTE=Firebird; 1147072]Plenty of posts? You don't think I did my homework by searching the Forum as I always do before a trip. Yup. There is one recent post concerning a massage place near the Milllennium and couple "old"."stale" posts from 2010. Hmmm. I guess you call that a lot of information. No problem. I'll find my way. Since you."expert" of Korea feel to big to provide "friendly" information. In any case I wish you a fine day.
Just came back from week's worth of mongering in Prague and heading out for more fun in Hong Kong[/QUOTE]I guess we'll have to take your word for it, since you haven't posted any informative accounts of your purported escapades in Czecho. Or elsewhere for that matter; I've cursorily checked your post history and there's almost nothing of substance, in fact; just peremptory requests for information from people in the know (whom you sometimes but not always have the curtesy to acknowledge). And just how would you, as an outsider, know that a report in this section is "stale". In fact, some of the information in my own post about just how to get to the Hill from the Millennium regarding specific providers is out of date, but I'm not inclined to update it for an ill-mannered lout like you.
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[QUOTE=JimJim005;1147253]Maybe if this forum had 'stickies' and we could create individual threads for each topic, we wouldn't have to read the same newbie questions over and over again. Instead, all posts, no matter what the content, gets put in one massive thread. Who is going to read through 300 pages of the forum just to find the answer they are looking for? Why can't this forum have a sticky where we can post an FAQ answering most newbie questions? And why can't we create individual threads LIKE EVERY OTHER FORUM ON THE INTERNET! If we had these two things, I bet there would be less newbie questions posted here, and more posts with worthwhile content.[/QUOTE]Search function, anyone?
That being said, good suggestions.
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[QUOTE=Zarcady;1147354]I really want to find and bang a 9/10 or even a 10/10 girl while I'm here because I can never find any decent korean chicks in Australia to my liking and I hope you can find it in your heart to help out a young fledgling experience the best night of his life in Korea here![/QUOTE]All the hot girls are found in anmas, officetels, and karaoke now. There's a reason why you don't see many young Korean adults going to glass shop RLDs. It has been all about anmas and officetels for the past few years now. All my Korean friends told me the glass shop RLDs were heaven during the early 2000s, but now the quality has decreased tremendously.
If you really want to get with a 9/10 or 10/10 girl and if you're tall, good-looking, rich, and know how to talk well, and you're willing to put effort and time into it, then I suggest going to clubs in Hongdae, Kangnam, or Apgujeong. If you don't fit any of those qualities, then there's no point of even trying.
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Apologies to the Honored and Respected "Gentlemen" of Korea
Well in all the years of reading this forum. And yes contributing many times via PM. I stuck my foot in my mouth this time quite deep. I guess an apology from me is warranted. No, I will not list all the countries worldwide where I enjoyed the sweet taste of woman over the last 10. 20 years.. I have the memories and you would not believe me anyway.
And YES. I did RTFF. As I do before every trip. WOW. How I hate that abbreviation. I was upset that after RTFF and doing the seach I came up empty handed. So again I stand before you humble.
Oh Coitus. You called me your "son". You give me "energy" since just passing 57 years "young" and still quite active with the talent. You must be sort of be my "dad". At a ripe age of?
Anyway chears to all, I willl find my onw way as I always do. One. Two. Perhaps three a night.
Enjoy and take care.
Firebird.
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[QUOTE=Abuasian1; 1147492]All the hot girls are found in anmas, officetels, and karaoke now. There's a reason why you don't see many young Korean adults going to glass shop RLDs. It has been all about anmas and officetels for the past few years now. All my Korean friends told me the glass shop RLDs were heaven during the early 2000s, but now the quality has decreased tremendously.
If you really want to get with a 9/10 or 10/10 girl and if you're tall, good-looking, rich, and know how to talk well, and you're willing to put effort and time into it, then I suggest going to clubs in Hongdae, Kangnam, or Apgujeong. If you don't fit any of those qualities, then there's no point of even trying. [/QUOTE]Hi there.
I just don't have the time to go clubbing since I'm not staying here long but thats why I'm willing to put in my money to experience what Seoul has to offer without the chase. I read here on the forum that there are people out there that has experienced in what their opinion to be a 8 or even a 9 out of 10 for as little as 120, 000 and I've come to the conclusion that these beauties EXIST in not just the expensive officetels or anmas but even in the RLDs IF one knows where to go and knows some connections, that's why I asked the experienced and senior members to help a little youngling like me experience the night of his life! =D.
Anyway I have experienced at Anma at Yeoksam for 200000 and the girl wasn't to my liking and I was too embarassed to ask if I could change.
And yesterday me and a couple of Swede guys went to the RLD in Hwe Hyun and as you guys all know it was raining yesterday and it was on the Thursday night so there were like. Urgg I don't even want to remember. Then we met these guys at the end of the street that were offering to take foreigners into a motel for 70 short time and 120 (for me. 130 for the foreigners) for an hour. So we went there and to cut the experience abit short, I first got a really ugly chick so I summoned up my courage to ask for a change and the second chick was pretty cute but not a knockout so she turned off the light and got naked then suddenly she's like "Why are you shaven?" And I was like WTF? So apparently if you shave in Korea it means you got like a disease (she specifically mentioned lice, which can not only exist in your hair but your pubes as well. Never really thought about it until then) so she was like nope I can't do this so she left. And afterwards since the 2 girls I got afterwards was not hot and were kind of relunctant so I just told the Ajjumma to let me get a free pass for next time. So she gave me her business card and told me to come back with friends and they'll get a discount as well.
I'm not sure if I'm suppose to reveal the details of the place on this forum so I won't LOL.
About the question before. 180cm, average looks but our family is not bad, my sister is a dentist and we have a couple of properties and I myself is a Pharmacy student. I haven't been clubbing here but I can usually hook up when I go clubbing in Australia so maybe I can pick up here but I really just want to find a beautiful korean pussy to bang. And I'm sorry if this sounds vulgar but I'm 21 and most people at 21 are pretty horny so please don't hold it against me!
Anyway if anyone wants to meet up for a beer and show me around I welcome all PMs! I'm going to give Gildo a call since he was nice enough to offer to show me around!
And can anyone PLEASE elaborate on this NO PUBE thing? I guess it kind of explains why almost all the asians don't shave. Whereas since I grew up overseas, I thought shaving was a cleaner way to go. And looks better
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The Hill
My recent ventures on the hill went to a girl called Candy, at a place opposite to Moonshine but I don't remember the name of it, she was alone in there on a late Tuesday night. Very cute girl with short hair and fake boobs (she claimed they were real though) and said she was 30 years old. She gave me a lap dance while having my beer, lots of touching and kissing before she asked me for any money, which I think is nice. Perhaps not the most beautiful girl around, but nice and good BJ skills. FS for 100. 000 won.
The next one I tried out was a girl named Sue (or maybe Soo, not sure about the spelling) at Peach Phuzz. Young and very cute girl with a great body and nice boobs, she seemed a little tired though and wasn't too enthusiastic so I settled for a HJ at 50. 000 won.
I saw a girl with a nice set of boobs in the bar called SS (or maybe just one S?) on the top of the hill, but when I came back the door was closed. Anybody have anything on her?
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Hi everyone,
I'll throw this out for anybody that is down. I'm coming up from Busan to Seoul for the weekend. I'm here for a short business trip, haven't done much here in Korea but I would really like to experience some 9 or 10 rated girls. Any gyopos down to go to a room salon in a upscale area. Everyone pays their own way. I've never went to a room salon and after hearing the stories, I want the experience. Tired of the so-so ness of of a rub and tug from an average girl. This would invite would have to go out to only gyopos cause from what I gather, some of the upscale places will not accept foreigners, maybe if things work out this weekend, next weekend, we can take some non-Koreans, if the place allows. My Korean is passable enough even though it's not the greatest since I grew up in the States. PM me.
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Officetel service
[QUOTE=Abuasian1; 1147492]All the hot girls are found in anmas, officetels, and karaoke now. There's a reason why you don't see many young Korean adults going to glass shop RLDs. It has been all about anmas and officetels for the past few years now. All my Korean friends told me the glass shop RLDs were heaven during the early 2000s, but now the quality has decreased tremendously.
If you really want to get with a 9/10 or 10/10 girl and if you're tall, good-looking, rich, and know how to talk well, and you're willing to put effort and time into it, then I suggest going to clubs in Hongdae, Kangnam, or Apgujeong. If you don't fit any of those qualities, then there's no point of even trying. [/QUOTE]Any body can introduce officetels telephone no. Or how to get the service around Gangnam area for me? I have tried to get these kind of info for a long time and did not get anything. Really appreciated.
JB
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Kkachisan Anybody?
Hi all,
Wondering if any on the forum have had any experiences around Kkachisan (Line 5/2). I'm staying there for two weeks on a street full of Love Hotels. I have had a look up and down the street (via Daum) , noticed this place "White Sports Massage".
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?pan=166.77846486599722&tilt=-3.0080284244368207&zoom=0&panoid=1016076889&screenMode=normal&map_type=TYPE_MAP&map_hybrid=false&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&q=[/url]%EC%84%9C%EC%84%9C%EC%9A%B8%ED%98%B8%EC%88%98%EA%B3%B5%EC%9B%90&urlX=464496&urlY=1119645&urlLevel=3.
Wondering if the name "White" has any special significance? Will be happy to take one for the team to find out either way, but any bit of advice would be welcome!
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Can anyone reccommend a decent barbershop place that gives a full massage with happy ending? Anything around 70, 000 that takes foreigners? Am tired of ducking my head in to see old hags and wondering if there is a younger woman or if that toothless bag is going to try to rub me down.
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And how do I ask if they have a young lady?
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Psplay; 1148845]Hi all,
Wondering if any on the forum have had any experiences around Kkachisan (Line 5/2). I'm staying there for two weeks on a street full of Love Hotels. I have had a look up and down the street (via Daum) , noticed this place "White Sports Massage".
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?pan=166.77846486599722&tilt=-3.0080284244368207&zoom=0&panoid=1016076889&screenMode=normal&map_type=TYPE_MAP&map_hybrid=false&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&q=[/url]
%EC%84%9C%EC%84%9C%EC%9A%B8%ED%98%B8%EC%88%98%EA%B3%B5%EC%9B%90&urlX=464496&urlY=1119645&urlLevel=3.
Wondering if the name "White" has any special significance? Will be happy to take one for the team to find out either way, but any bit of advice would be welcome! [/QUOTE]That's probably a typical massage parlor where you can expect a massage with a happy ending (most likely a handjob and maybe a blowjob) but sometimes those places do offer FS. Those small bars on the bottom floor are hostess bars, but you will probably not be welcomed there if you are not Korean, but you could always give it a try.
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Thus Far
I've been in Seoul for about three weeks now. I've tried two places (1) Outside Gangnam station, it was on the top floor, maybe 5th and it cost 80, 000 KRW. It was actually a really good massage but the woman (who was actually Chinese) had her clothes on the whole time and at the end of the hour gave me a pretty ridiculous HJ. (2) Was just outside the main strip of Itaewon and it was 200, 000 KRW. The massage was absolutely terrible and she wouldn't get on top so I had to do all the work. A few minutes in she told me to hurry up in Korean and it kind of ruined the experience so I told her to just finish me off with her hand and mouth.
I'm Korean American but hardly speak any Korean at all. I've yet to check out any of the RLDs here and am pretty curious about them because I've never seen one before (I'm from the US). If anyone wants to make an outing and is familiar with the RLDs around Seoul, I would love to come along.
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You missed us by a week, I posted last week about getting some gypos together and checking some places out. Three of us here got together and we checked out a couple of places. Maybe if the other guys are up for it again, we can get together this weekend, grab dinner and drinks and head out for the night. As a gypo, if you are going to Itaewon for action, you need some serious help. Haha.
[QUOTE=Repartee; 1149080]I've been in Seoul for about three weeks now. I've tried two places (1) Outside Gangnam station, it was on the top floor, maybe 5th and it cost 80, 000 KRW. It was actually a really good massage but the woman (who was actually Chinese) had her clothes on the whole time and at the end of the hour gave me a pretty ridiculous HJ. (2) Was just outside the main strip of Itaewon and it was 200, 000 KRW. The massage was absolutely terrible and she wouldn't get on top so I had to do all the work. A few minutes in she told me to hurry up in Korean and it kind of ruined the experience so I told her to just finish me off with her hand and mouth.
I'm Korean American but hardly speak any Korean at all. I've yet to check out any of the RLDs here and am pretty curious about them because I've never seen one before (I'm from the US). If anyone wants to make an outing and is familiar with the RLDs around Seoul, I would love to come along. [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Repartee; 1149080]I've been in Seoul for about three weeks now. I've tried two places (1) Outside Gangnam station, it was on the top floor, maybe 5th and it cost 80, 000 KRW. It was actually a really good massage but the woman (who was actually Chinese) had her clothes on the whole time and at the end of the hour gave me a pretty ridiculous HJ. (2) Was just outside the main strip of Itaewon and it was 200, 000 KRW. The massage was absolutely terrible and she wouldn't get on top so I had to do all the work. A few minutes in she told me to hurry up in Korean and it kind of ruined the experience so I told her to just finish me off with her hand and mouth.
I'm Korean American but hardly speak any Korean at all. I've yet to check out any of the RLDs here and am pretty curious about them because I've never seen one before (I'm from the US). If anyone wants to make an outing and is familiar with the RLDs around Seoul, I would love to come along. [/QUOTE]Haha I was one of people who got together with Mookman last week. And overall was a KILLER of a night and definitely was a good night for me anyway. I feel bad about Mookman as he didn't find any ladies especially attractive to him and ended up going home early. Me and another who was with us ended up finishing off the night with a bang and found these pretty cute chicks and I had quite a blast.
I'm willing to go monger around Seoul anytime so if anyone else want to make a plan, PM me! As for Repartee, I think you will need subscription enabled to get the PMs and I'm glad as hell I subscribed as I met a couple of wonderful people and had an AMAZING night that ended up with me popping twice =D
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[QUOTE=Zarcady; 1149137]Haha I was one of people who got together with Mookman last week. And overall was a KILLER of a night and definitely was a good night for me anyway. I feel bad about Mookman as he didn't find any ladies especially attractive to him and ended up going home early. Me and another who was with us ended up finishing off the night with a bang and found these pretty cute chicks and I had quite a blast.
I'm willing to go monger around Seoul anytime so if anyone else want to make a plan, PM me! As for Repartee, I think you will need subscription enabled to get the PMs and I'm glad as hell I subscribed as I met a couple of wonderful people and had an AMAZING night that ended up with me popping twice =D[/QUOTE]I did subscribe, I have the PMs enabled now.
I'm glad to hear you guys had a good time and hopefully Mookman will find someone that tickles his fancy next time. But I'm definitely down for the next outing if you guys decide to go again!
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Yeah, nobody really caught my eye last weekend but none the less, it was nice getting a good tour of the various RLDs in Seoul. It's also just less creepy and safer going with a bunch of people rather than solo. And being that we're all gyopos, we blend in better. Haha. I'll know by the end of the week if I can come up, it's my last weekend here and my Korean guests are insisting on taking me out to sight see, so I have to see if I can get out of it. If anybody else wants to join up, send us a PM.
I left the other guys early at 3am cause my hotel was close and it would of taken too long to go back to the first RLD we went to and come back. This time, I guess I will sleep at a jimjibang or something, the hotel room was a waste, just sleeping there for a couple of hours. Haha.
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Cheongnyangni 588
It's been a while. I've enjoyed reading everyone's (productive) posts. Anyway, I thought I'd share one.
I haven't mongered in while, but Cheongnyangni has a special place in my heart. If your back is to the department store, then on the left side of the RLD is a small row where one larger girl works (I don't know if she's still there, though). I wasn't getting any attention from the Sticks, and she was friendly, so I took her.
Even though she was a little bigger, I thought she was a cute and young woman; definitely had big boobs. Anyway, wearing a school girl skirt, she asked for 70, 000W. She left to shower / change and came back to clean me up. She then gave a slow and DEEP BBBJ. I won't say that I'm the biggest in the world, but I was impressed that she went down so far. The only other person to take me down like that was Cherry in Itaewon (I need to go visit her soon.).
I was ready for more. She put the condom on and got on top. As soon as she sat down on "me", she shivered a little bit. I felt pretty good about myself. LOL. Once again, she took it all the way down with no "too big" or "Ouch"s like other girls. She rode well too, and genuinely seemed like she was enjoying herself. I lastly got her into doggystyle and with her pushing back on me, I couldn't hold for long. She was a little disappointed. I guess she was enjoying herself!
If I had more cash on me, I would've tipped her. She was great. I haven't been back there in about 8 months, as I went back home. Now that I'm back, I hope to see her again. If you aren't simply out for 9s and 10s, I recommend that you see her. She's friendly and talented.
I've found that the 9s and 10s are more about looks over skill anyway. I've been with hte infamous Soo-Ae and while she was / is great, I've found better talent and experiences for cheaper.
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[QUOTE=Dissolved Boy; 1149836]It's been a while. I've enjoyed reading everyone's (productive) posts. Anyway, I thought I'd share one.
I haven't mongered in while, but Cheongnyangni has a special place in my heart. If your back is to the department store, then on the left side of the RLD is a small row where one larger girl works (I don't know if she's still there, though). I wasn't getting any attention from the Sticks, and she was friendly, so I took her. [/QUOTE]I'm assuming you mean the small row on the right where if you walk pass the glass shops you will see a hospital and a club. Was she the girl in the first glass shop to the left and with brown hair (I think it was brown)? I asked her if she does titfucking but she said no, so I didn't have a go with her. Unfortunately, she doesn't work there anymore. The last time I've seen her was around mid 2010 and I visit Cheongnyangni from time to time. I figured business for her is way slower than the other girls since Korean men mainly prefer thin pretty girls.
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My Mistake
[QUOTE=Abuasian1;1150141]I'm assuming you mean the small row on the right where if you walk pass the glass shops you will see a hospital and a club. Was she the girl in the first glass shop to the left and with brown hair (I think it was brown)? I asked her if she does titfucking but she said no, so I didn't have a go with her. Unfortunately, she doesn't work there anymore. The last time I've seen her was around mid 2010 and I visit Cheongnyangni from time to time. I figured business for her is way slower than the other girls since Korean men mainly prefer thin pretty girls.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I actually meant on the RIGHT side of the RLD. I've been to the left side; what you're talking about. That side, especially the ones with the red doors are used by fat and / or old ladies. I've never gone that far. Anyway, the lady I'm talking about is one the RIGHT side of the RLD. I may go there next weekend for a little recon. If I see her, I'll repost.
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I was the king of RLDs a few years ago. So just hold on a bit. I'll be in Korea in five months.
[QUOTE=Repartee; 1149080]I've been in Seoul for about three weeks now. I've tried two places (1) Outside Gangnam station, it was on the top floor, maybe 5th and it cost 80, 000 KRW. It was actually a really good massage but the woman (who was actually Chinese) had her clothes on the whole time and at the end of the hour gave me a pretty ridiculous HJ. (2) Was just outside the main strip of Itaewon and it was 200, 000 KRW. The massage was absolutely terrible and she wouldn't get on top so I had to do all the work. A few minutes in she told me to hurry up in Korean and it kind of ruined the experience so I told her to just finish me off with her hand and mouth.
I'm Korean American but hardly speak any Korean at all. I've yet to check out any of the RLDs here and am pretty curious about them because I've never seen one before (I'm from the US). If anyone wants to make an outing and is familiar with the RLDs around Seoul, I would love to come along. [/QUOTE]
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Haven't heard about Miari in a while
I went down there a couple of weeks back on a Sunday afternoon to see if it was still up and running after I saw that Yongsan was about gone.
I walked around and talked to several Mama-san; some said I could I have sex twice and some said only once. Being that the price was the same (70, 000W) , I chose the former. After about 15 minutes of looking around the area, I decided on a girl who was a little bigger by Korean standards but perfectly nice in the Western world (slimmer than the one in Cheongnyanggi).
She came in friendly, cleaned me up and went down on me. Unfortunately, her technique wasn't THAT great, but she took direction well. She also let me feel around and finger her a little while she was going at it.
After a minute or so, I got a little bored and asked to get down to it. She put on the condom and got on top. She was average, but once again, I was happy that she wasn't crying about being in pain. I finished and relaxed until the second round.
Round 2:
I had more stamina here so we did a few positions. After the BBBJ to get us both in the mood, she got on the bed and immediately went into the doggy position. I was like,"Ok!". After that, I went into missionary and then to cowgirl. At this point, she was starting to hurt, so she apologized and got off. I felt sympathy for her and didn't make a fuss at all. She went down on me and switched back and forth to HJ to finish me off.
As I left, the Mama-san gave me a card to call her, and I think I will in near future. HyunJung, I think her name was, was pretty good. I guess I won't pound her so hard next time and take it easier on her though.
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Gangnam info
Hello, Seoul thread. I'm headed back to Korea and this time I'll be in the Gangnam area. Can anyone give any updated info on Belle, regarding price, quality of girls, etc?
Also, what about Cool, is it still foreigner unfriendly? It's hard to belive a handjob joint won't allow foreigners.
Any other foreigner friendly places in Gangnam?
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Seoul Newbie
Hi,
Will be in Seoul for a few days this month. Any suggestions for foreigner friendly activity? Will be at the InterCon Grand Parnas. Prefer within walking distance.
TIA,
H
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Bad Experience
Hey, thought I would post about what happened to me tonight. Curious if anyone else has had similar experiences.
Decided to go and try a massage place tonight and see what I was able to get. So I walked down toward Sinlim station, where I'd see a bunch of them clustered around.
Anyway the first one I went to said no foreigners, and the next one seemed like they would take a foreigner but the guy said they were booked for the night and you have to make a reservation. (BTW I'm write, but I speak pretty passable Korean).
Anyway at the third one I went to the lady at the front said okay and asked for 90, 000 won. I gave it to her and she led me to a room to change into the pants they provide, and then showed me to the shower room. When I came out she said there were cops outside trying to get in (I'd heard some banging on the door) , and she told me to hurry up and get dressed and go sit in her waiting area with the TV and pretend I was a guest instead of a customer. (Which the police would absolutely never believe.)
I was in there waiting for about 15 minutes. Her and one other girl were kind of freaking out and on the phone to some guy trying to get him to come over and fix it. After a while she told the other girl to just leave quickly, and then she told me to follow her. She turned off all the lights and locked the door and I followed her down the stairs and out onto the street. The cops were sitting right there with their lights on, but they didn't say anything to us.
Anyway I didn't know what was going on, but she said to follow her. She crossed the street and turned into an alley and I realized she was taking me to a different sports massage place. When we arrived the girl from before was sitting there waiting.
Anyway, she showed me to a booth and I changed clothes, but then the owner came in. She said the cops were going around to different places in the neighborhood, and she wanted to just shut down for the night. Gave me my money back. She said enforcement was really bad lately, and actually told me it would be better if I didn't try to go there. Which is not what I'd expect the owner to say, why'know?
Anyway, don't know if somebody saw me go in and called in a report, or if it was just a coincidence. But the cops got there about 10 minutes after I did, so I dunno.
Not the experience I was looking for.
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Young dong po- RDL. Next to timesquare
Last Friday Apil 29, 7pm, RLD all shut down by police. End up going timesquare for dinner
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[QUOTE=Skylar Parsons;1150900]don't know if somebody saw me go in and called in a report, or if it was just a coincidence. But the cops got there about 10 minutes after I did, so I dunno.[/QUOTE]10 minutes? Coincidence.
Korean cops don't arrive 10 minutes after they get a call for ANYthing much less a routine massagee payola trip.
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Please help a Gyopo
Hi,
I am finally going to Korea and I am a gyopo and can speak Korean.
Can anyone give a brief rundown for my options? Before you say RTFF, I have!
I just want to know what the scene currently is, because some people say the RLDs are gone, and then I see some people say they still exist, and so on and so on.
Hopefully Halycon can fill me and the rest of us in.
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Back to Miari
Went there for Children's Day, after I tried to find my old chick at Cheonyanggi. She wasn't there, and every woman I approached shooed me away accept for the 40K old chicks. I may go back to be sure she's gone, but I honestly feel like, if you're not Asian, Cheonyanggi SUCKS. There's no reason to go.
I walked around in Miari for about 15 minutes, looking at various ladies. It was my first time at night, so the ladies were in wedding dresses or something. I went to about six rooms, and I made a rule about how to choose. Appearance is of course important, but their enthusiasm is important. I saw girls turn their eyes down when they saw me. Some just started at me with a " it's a shitty job but somebody's got to do it" face on. I passed on all of them, leaving angry and confused Mama's. I went to two rooms where the ladies were excited to see me, and I actually felt like they would take care of me.
I decided on one girl. She seemed younger than most. As it turned out, she was 23 (at least that's what she said). She didn't have the biggest boobs, but she had a handful. The best thing was her butt. She was thick, but definitely not fat. Best of all, she was friendly, as if she wasn't afraid to touch a foreigner. I'm only giving my attention to people who give me that impression.
She was surprised at my size. However, isn't of saying it in fear, she was enthusiastic, giving me a thumbs up sign. Unfortunately, like the last girl, the BJ was boring. She had suction but she really didn't get anything down. I started feeling around quickly, and that prompted her to get the condom. Maybe she would've done better if I hadn't touched her.
She wanted me in missionary and took everything pretty well. When we went into doggy, she jumped a little bit, but soon after everything was fine. She was getting warm and I lost it there.
The Mama san tried to tell me that the price was 80K because of inflation of some crap, but I argued her down to 70. I did tip my girl this time. I got her number. I'll be back.
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Miari vs. Itaewon
Miari is obviously cheaper and you can get more out of the ladies there. For example, having sex twice for 70K. The ladies are mostly willing to deal with you, but some are quite mechanical. The skill varies too as does how these ladies look. Some looks decent, but others are just boring.
Itaewon is far more expensive, but from my experience, and people like Kimchi Warrior, if you establish loyalty and good relations, you can get more out of them. I used to see a couple of women on the Hill who I got to have sex with as many times as I could cram in an hour or so at the same price some men only paid for one pop (I'm not telling who though). Also the skill and appearance quality is better here.
I haven't been to Itaewon since I've been back, but it'll happen soon I'm sure. I want to see if my old favorites are there as the ones in Yongsan and Cheonyaggi are gone.
In short, if you're an average guy living here, go shop around in Miari, saying "Du-Bon" (two times) and get your money's worth. If you're a visitor for a couple of days, or have a birthday, go all out on Itaewon.
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[QUOTE=Dissolved Boy;1152124]but I honestly feel like, if you're not Asian, Cheonyanggi SUCKS. There's no reason to go.[/QUOTE]I've seen this said all over the forum, and frankly I don't understand why so many people are having trouble. I'm a 6'0 tall hairy white American with very broken Korean. During my time in Seoul, I went to Cheonyanggi three times, and all three times it took less than 15 minutes of exploration to find a hot girl willing to have me a customer.
Yes, you will get shooed away by some of the girls, but at least a third of them tried to catch me eye each evening. With a selection like that, I was in freaking heaven. I didn't even bother going to Itaewon or Miari (though I'm certainly going to on my next trip).
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Hongdae?
In Hongdae.
There are alot of "Kiss Bangs" and "Thai Massages".
I assume in Kiss Bangs you only get to kiss and touch, and Thai Massages are basically a nude body to body massage right?
What places do FS in Hongdae? Any suggestions?
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Thai massage in suwon
I actually tried a Thai Massage yesterday in Suwon and after asking if there was any 'service' that I can pay abit extra for I was given a repeated 'no' by the manager there.
But during my massage the thai lady (I think she was philipino not thai) kept brushing her hand against my johnson and giggling (I was wearing a gown, not nude) then after a few brushes she whispered in my ear if I wanted a HJ for what I assumed was 30000 won (3 fingers up) and I immediately said yes.
So she was giving me a HJ but I was extremely drunk at that time and no matter how much she tried I wouldn't come LOL. Was abit embarassing for me actually since I felt abit sorry for her and I don't think she was allowed to do these things technically since everytime she thought someone was going to come in the room, she would immediately put my pants back on and start massaging me. Then we would have to start from the beginning.
I was allowed to touch her breasts as much as I wanted but she wouldn't take off her bra so I was forced to get a feel from underneath. Again, it felt like it was very much a secret sort of thing and I don't think she would do it for anyone. I'm quite young and I got on with her quite well since I speak a little bit of malay and we joked around a little bit so definitely you won't normally get these kind of services unless you get along fairly well and there was no way to get anything else other than a HJ. I tried to get her to give me a BJ but she wouldn't go for it, let alone a FS.
And after an incredibly long HJ, she went to licking my nipples and biting my ears to get me abit more excited which kind of did work but yeh. I think it was at least a good 40 minutes before I finally came. Maybe more because I paid for a 2 hour session.
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[QUOTE=Zarcady; 1152737]I actually tried a Thai Massage yesterday in Suwon.
But during my massage the thai lady (I think she was philipino not thai).
I'm quite young and I got on with her quite well since I speak a little bit of malay and we joked around a little bit. [/QUOTE]I'm a bit confused by your report. You were at a Thai massage shop in Korea, with a provider that you think was Filipino, but you joked with her by speaking Malay? In my limited experience, I have mistakenly assumed that some Thai girls were Filipino, and vice-versa. But at the Thai massage shops I have been to in Korea, the providers have been very much Thai. And they spoke more Korean than any other language except their own. Maybe the alcohol you had before the session caused more problems than the lack of ability to cum quickly. :D
HW
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1152747]But at the Thai massage shops I have been to in Korea, the providers have been very much Thai.[/QUOTE]Then the massage places are getting brave. It is very much illegal for a non-Korean to work in a massage parlour. I know because I tried to open up my own a few years ago (I am a licenced RMT back in Canada). The way the law is written, foreigners cannot work in nor own a massage business. The rationale being the gov't wants to prevent [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] of foreign women to staff the rub-and-tugs.
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[QUOTE=Brian 3232;1152927]Can someone post some more HJ places like Cool and Belle? I know theres Angel right up the street, but how about in other areas besides the Bang Bang area? I heard theres tons in Seoul. Surprisingly only people talkin about cool and belle on this board. I don't go to belle anymore since the quality of girls went down.[/QUOTE]I'll just put these up here just in case anyone wants to feel like calling up these places and asking. Sorry but they don't have their specific locations, but maybe if your Korean is good enough you guys might get lucky. I was going to put an approximate location for one of my favorite places, but they seem to have been busted :/
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Sporex-Koreana Hotel
[QUOTE=Brian 3232;1152927]Can someone post some more HJ places like Cool and Belle? I know theres Angel right up the street, but how about in other areas besides the Bang Bang area? I heard theres tons in Seoul. Surprisingly only people talkin about cool and belle on this board. I don't go to belle anymore since the quality of girls went down.[/QUOTE]I'm back in Seoul now and I just got back from the Sporex on the 8th floor of the Koreana hotel. It's been posted on here before, but that was over a year ago. The price for entrance to the sauna is 18K, and the massage with handjob cost me 110K. My masseuse was a little older than the ones I got the last time I was there (over a year ago) but she was still pretty cute and she gave a fantastic massage and really beat my dick good at the end. It's pricey, though.
I'll have to check out some spots in Gangnam sometime, but as you mentioned, the last time I went to Belle the quality was quite lower than before, so I stopped going too.
Forgot to mention I strolled up the Hill last night. Very little turnover from last year it seems. I noticed a couple bars no longer exist. Moulin Rouge is gone and in its place is either a travel agency or an Arab restaurant; I can't remember which. Anyone know which bar Nara works at now?
Another question, any info on the girl with tats at Moon Shine bar?
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Belle Reports
Oh how I hate it when I type a long report and I somehow time out. Arggh! I will try to recapture my six paragraphs of thoughts. But, as Sade says,"it's never as good as the first time."
Just got back from my second consecutive night at Belle. I made two visits there the last time I was in town too. This time, as was the case last time, I am batting 1 for 2. While. 500 would be amazing in baseball, the ratio should be better in this hobby. Last night I drew a cute spinner with an adorable face, braces, and pert B-cups. The service was standard and the cuddling, Kanglish, and mutual fondling lasted until the one-hour knock. Money well spent.
Tonight I tempted fate and did not ask for the same girl (she was working). I figured I might get someone even better, but alas I did not. She wasn't terrible, but her lack of English didn't allow for any chemistry. After the perfunctory massage and other activities, we still had half-an-hour left to speak gibberish at each other. Since she wasn't cuddling and I could only go through my list of favorite Korean foods and banal pocket dictionary phrases so many times, I hit the showers early.
I am wondering if any of you locals would PM me with the names of any girls at Belle or Cool (or Cleopatra or Ivy or VIP, etc.) or other big-white-guy friendly establishments of this ilk that speak enough English, or who have enough body language communication to make the full hour enjoyable? I don't always need FS, and I love the amenities like showers and 60 minute time-frame at these places when compared to the Hill or the barren RLD wasteland in Seoul. The lower price point isn't bad either! I just want to feel like the girl and I can connect on some basic level. She doesn't have to want me, but I'd at least like the illusion of some sort of connection, however superficial and fleeting. Oh, and if she is a busty gorgeous spinner, that would be okay too. Yeah, now I am dreaming. Sorry!
As always, more details available to seniors who PM. Thanks, all. I love this thread, even when I am at home!
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[QUOTE=Coitus68;1152818]Then the massage places are getting brave. It is very much illegal for a non-Korean to work in a massage parlour. I know because I tried to open up my own a few years ago (I am a licenced RMT back in Canada). The way the law is written, foreigners cannot work in nor own a massage business. The rationale being the gov't wants to prevent [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] of foreign women to staff the rub-and-tugs.[/QUOTE]I believe you Coitus68. I know the massage shops I went to were owned by Koreans. I'm sure there had to be some sort of pay off going on between the owners and the authorities. These massage shops were in Daegu. Some of the girls told me that they would come to Korea for only 3 months at a time and return home. They also said there were many cities around Korea where they have worked, including Incheon and Seoul.
HW
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Hey
[QUOTE=Gildo;1152999]I'll just put these up here just in case anyone wants to feel like calling up these places and asking. Sorry but they don't have their specific locations, but maybe if your Korean is good enough you guys might get lucky. I was going to put an approximate location for one of my favorite places, but they seem to have been busted :/[/QUOTE]Hey Gildo, thank you so much for posting that information. Do you think you can e-mail me those documents? I can't open the files since I don't have a membership and unfortunately can't sign up for one during the time I am here. I made an email account:
[blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]
Thank you so much again.
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1153107]I'm sure there had to be some sort of pay off going on between the owners and the authorities.[/quote]Well, ALL of them have to hand out the payola. Yes, non-Koreans aren't allowed to work there by law, but neither are sighted Koreans: the only people LEGALLY allowed (technically speaking) to work in massage parlours are blind people.
[quote]Some of the girls told me that they would come to Korea for only 3 months at a time and return home.[/quote]Sure. Come over on a tourist visa, work for three months, and leave before the visa expires. Even if they pay their own ticket over, they can still bank enough money in three months to make the trip worthwhile.
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1152747]I'm a bit confused by your report. You were at a Thai massage shop in Korea, with a provider that you think was Filipino, but you joked with her by speaking Malay? In my limited experience, I have mistakenly assumed that some Thai girls were Filipino, and vice-versa. But at the Thai massage shops I have been to in Korea, the providers have been very much Thai. And they spoke more Korean than any other language except their own. Maybe the alcohol you had before the session caused more problems than the lack of ability to cum quickly. .
HW[/QUOTE]Haha sorry if my report confused you but I think what I reported is what happened? Or maybe I was too drunk hahaha. But yeh I'm pretty sure she told me she was Filipino but she was speaking what I'm pretty sure was thai to her friend who was massaging my friend in the same room. I lived in Malaysia for 4 years so I could speak the basics like greetings, saying thank you, counting from 1 to 10 and they loved it! Since Thailand is right next to Malaysia, I think both countries have at least a grasp of each other's languages. But yeh anyway she told me she was Filipino but she could have been anything. Anyway I apologise if my report is a little hazy, I just wrote down what I remember, which is pretty much close to nothing. Except for the fact that I couldn't come fast enough.
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Whats new on the hill? Is Soo-ae still working?
Had been to Seoul a few years back, and had some good (and not so good) times on the Hill in Itaewan. I remember a gal named Soo-ae at Peach Phuzz giving the most amazing AR. Does anyone know if she still works there (or anywhere else)? Can anyone provide details on any other notable talent on the hill? (AR / DT / BBJCIM specialists preferred)
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Cheongryangni report
I met a girl at the corner of the main intersection.
She was very talkative in the beginning but later kept negotiating.
A Ten Pro (super pretty) but Service was too fast and overcharged.
Girls seem to be After performing my maneuver there was a hotter girl in another room with another guy (damn!)
Looks: 8. 5.
Service 2 (too fast, waited at the window when we finished) but BBFS.
Repeat? Maybe not.
I will try Miari or Cheonho next time.
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Visit to itaewon last week
I went to Seoul for the first time last week. I went to Itaewon (I don't know if I ever found the hill or not). I went to a couple bars. They were asking me to by champage at 600, 000 won to take a girl home with me. Can anyone tell me if this is normal?
I am planning on heading out to Korea this Friday. Would love to see the mongering sites around 1100 pm If anyone is interested pm me. I would greatly appreciate the assistance.
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[QUOTE=Dissolved Boy; 1152124]Went there for Children's Day, after I tried to find my old chick at Cheonyanggi. She wasn't there, and every woman I approached shooed me away accept for the 40K old chicks. I may go back to be sure she's gone, but I honestly feel like, if you're not Asian, Cheonyanggi SUCKS. There's no reason to go.
I walked around in Miari for about 15 minutes, looking at various ladies. It was my first time at night, so the ladies were in wedding dresses or something. I went to about six rooms, and I made a rule about how to choose. Appearance is of course important, but their enthusiasm is important. I saw girls turn their eyes down when they saw me. Some just started at me with a " it's a shitty job but somebody's got to do it" face on. I passed on all of them, leaving angry and confused Mama's. I went to two rooms where the ladies were excited to see me, and I actually felt like they would take care of me.
I decided on one girl. She seemed younger than most. As it turned out, she was 23 (at least that's what she said). She didn't have the biggest boobs, but she had a handful. The best thing was her butt. She was thick, but definitely not fat. Best of all, she was friendly, as if she wasn't afraid to touch a foreigner. I'm only giving my attention to people who give me that impression.
She was surprised at my size. However, isn't of saying it in fear, she was enthusiastic, giving me a thumbs up sign. Unfortunately, like the last girl, the BJ was boring. She had suction but she really didn't get anything down. I started feeling around quickly, and that prompted her to get the condom. Maybe she would've done better if I hadn't touched her.
She wanted me in missionary and took everything pretty well. When we went into doggy, she jumped a little bit, but soon after everything was fine. She was getting warm and I lost it there.
The Mama san tried to tell me that the price was 80K because of inflation of some crap, but I argued her down to 70. I did tip my girl this time. I got her number. I'll be back.[/QUOTE]Can you PM her number? I am going there next week!
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[QUOTE=Brian 3232; 1153700]Wow this sucks. I can't even get the $19. 99 subscription because the service is down. Why is posting email address' not allowed here? I really want those files Gildo posted!
Gildo, any way you can copy and paste the text from the word files onto here? Specifically interested in the fetish, gyeonji HJ / BJ, gangnam HJ / BJ.
Thanks a lot! [/QUOTE]Can you read Hangul? Because the files are in Korean and unless you can speak Korean the phone numbers aren't going to do you any good either.
Just do a Naver or Daum search and you can find the same info.
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[QUOTE=Anord4; 1154720]I stay in Suwon area. If you guys come to RLD in Suwon, let me know about it.
I am Asian but with limited Korean language would be great if someone know the Korean come along.
Just PM or sent me cell number. I can text you guys[/QUOTE]I think I have no privilege to PM you. Today evening I was roaming all around Suwon RLD, couldn't find any good chicks so came home without any action. If you are here mail to [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]. Hope this will help us each other. Even I don't know much Korean but I can manage with things. Mods please delete this msg if its inappropriate.
With thanks and regards.
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588 RLD, Itaewon, Yongsan, Thai Massage Parlors, VIP
I normally don't post much.
I went to see Soo-Ae, or Soo Ae at Peach Fuzz in Itaewon. Not what I expected. She didn't live up to the hype. She's a don't repeat from me. No AR like promised. I specifically asked for it and she agreed but didn't do it. She told me she doesn't. Probably lying. Could be a racial thing. I won't repeat her. She couldn't follow simple directions when she was providing to me, other than the no AR thing.
FYI Na Na of Cabin in Itaewon has relocated to Texas on the hill.
I visited her a couple of times and she lives up to the hype.
Cherry at Happy Days is great, she charges 80, 20 less than Soo-Ae or Na Na for a BBBJ to completion.
I really wanted AR from that girl Soo-Ae like nobody's business. If you know of a girl that does so, reply to this post and let me know. I tried to find the infamous Miya on the top of the hill but it was a wild goose hunt. A no go.
I went to 588 and was successful with a heavier set girl that's in the back row. One of the only two that would speak to me / engage me. She was great. Seventy for everything I wanted. Nice smile, full rack, and a good attitude, what more can I ask for?
Thai Massage Parlors have full service on the low. The girls working there have 3 month visas and will finish you for a tip if you ask them, usually. They're practically slaves. They're told where to go, they have curfews and work all the time. They want tips. I'm on bad terms with one near me due to a language barrier and misunderstanding on price after the deed. But if I wait 3 months she'll be gone. The management doesn't know what the girls do on the side. It was apparent they were trying to hide what they were doing from them.
I went to VIP twice. Once was good, once was "meh". It's like rolling a dice with that one. But they do take their time and are professional with you.
Yongsan isn't worth you're time. Shut down.
I haven't been to Miari, that's the last stop before I know the who's, what's, when's, where's, and why's.
If I hadn't made this clear. I really wanted that AR. I had some crazy sessions in the Land of Smiles[Thailand]. Want MOAR!
Make suggestions to me if you can help regarding areas or whatever.
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[QUOTE=FisherKorea;1154843]I think I have no privilege to PM you. With thanks and regards.[/QUOTE]Easy to get the PM privileges, by subscribing to ISG.
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No Subscription
[QUOTE=Anord4;1154722]Can you PM her number? I am going there next week![/QUOTE]Sorry, I haven't subscribed yet, and I don't know if she wants me to give her number out. All I can say is if you're coming from the Gireum subway station, head to the left of the RLD, as there are two "main" alleys. Her place is about in the middle. Her name is Yuna.
Happy hunting!
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[QUOTE=FisherKorea;1154964]I have no Paypal or similar credit card system here in Korea.[/QUOTE]Why not? KEB and CostCo / Samsung give them out like candy.
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[QUOTE=Coitus68;1155077]Why not? KEB and CostCo / Samsung give them out like candy.[/QUOTE]Issues with my visa status.
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My old friend at Cheongnyangi
So I walked around the RLD again today out of boredom, hoping to finally find the lady I previously talked about, and I found her. However, as soon as she saw me she waved me off like I was nothing. I tried to say Hello, again, but she brushed me off! I was crushed. I've been gone so long that she forgot me. I guess we foreigners "all look alike". I've used that joke for Asians, but I didn't expect it to happen to me!
I walked off to look at others, and indeed maybe because of the weather, there were a few others who welcomed me. However, I waited a while to see my old regular. I figured I'd give another pass, and if she waved me off I'd see the new girls. I came back around and she peaked her head out and ushered me in. I asked why she was so cold before and she said it was because the police were right there. They must've been undercover because I didn't see any uniforms or cars.
Once she came into the little room we talked for a few minutes because my Korean is BAD and her English is too. She said that while she can't speak well, she likes the language and has a friend abroad. I got undressed and she gave one of the most slow and sensual BBBJ I've ever had, gently caressing and massaging the parts that matter. She was so good that I almost came a couple of times, so I asked her to throw the condom on.
She got on top and took it all like last time. She got into it (pun intended?). Watching her face, I knew she was enjoying herself. I thought I saw some eyerolling! I came and even though she probably felt it, she kept riding for a couple minutes, maybe so she could get off too. She was really grinding into me.
I've been lucky recently. She was super friendly and accommodating. Like I said, if you want to try bigger girls, she's worth it. The skill and attitude (and price!) make up for the appearance.
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Anyone want to hit up the room salons
And anyone here want to hit up the room salons together? Would be nice to get a group of 3-4.
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I would be up for a room salon but we would need at least 5 people possibly more to make the trip worthwhile. I've heard of a room salon gathering like this before on the ISG but it's been so long I don't know if there are regulars left that is willing to meet up with newbies like me. If anyone is interested, just give me a call.
BTW does anyone know which station is Miari close to? I've only ever gone there by taxi and I cannot for the life of me remember which railway station I got onto the next morning.
Cheers!
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Shaved vs Unshaved?
Hi guys,
This seems like a ridiculous question but: Do you guys shave your privates before you head out for business? I heard that in Korea they consider it as a sign of having had Craps or whatever and I once got funny looks while relaxing in a bath house. Did you ever run into problems when appearing shaved. Man I feel silly for asking this.
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Miari's subway station
[QUOTE=Zarcady; 1155478]BTW does anyone know which station is Miari close to? I've only ever gone there by taxi and I cannot for the life of me remember which railway station I got onto the next morning.
Cheers![/QUOTE]Gireum, on the light blue line; about a five stops from Dongdaemun. I forgot which exit though. I just "know". You'll know it when you see it though. EASILY.
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Miari Texas?
[QUOTE=Zarcady;1155478]BTW does anyone know which station is Miari close to? I've only ever gone there by taxi and I cannot for the life of me remember which railway station I got onto the next morning.![/QUOTE]Miari is right next to Gereum station. Its a subway station not a railway station. I believe its exit number 2. Sorry, I only drive by it a few times a week, never took the subway. Hope this helps.
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[QUOTE=Brian 3232;1155189]And anyone here want to hit up the room salons together? Would be nice to get a group of 3-4.[/QUOTE]Interested! I'm mid-20's, PM me.
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Where?
[QUOTE=Skylar Parsons; 1150900]Hey, thought I would post about what happened to me tonight. Curious if anyone else has had similar experiences.
Decided to go and try a massage place tonight and see what I was able to get. So I walked down toward Sinlim station, where I'd see a bunch of them clustered around.
Anyway the first one I went to said no foreigners, and the next one seemed like they would take a foreigner but the guy said they were booked for the night and you have to make a reservation. (BTW I'm write, but I speak pretty passable Korean).
Anyway at the third one I went to the lady at the front said okay and asked for 90, 000 won. I gave it to her and she led me to a room to change into the pants they provide, and then showed me to the shower room. When I came out she said there were cops outside trying to get in (I'd heard some banging on the door) , and she told me to hurry up and get dressed and go sit in her waiting area with the TV and pretend I was a guest instead of a customer. (Which the police would absolutely never believe.)
I was in there waiting for about 15 minutes. Her and one other girl were kind of freaking out and on the phone to some guy trying to get him to come over and fix it. After a while she told the other girl to just leave quickly, and then she told me to follow her. She turned off all the lights and locked the door and I followed her down the stairs and out onto the street. The cops were sitting right there with their lights on, but they didn't say anything to us.
Anyway I didn't know what was going on, but she said to follow her. She crossed the street and turned into an alley and I realized she was taking me to a different sports massage place. When we arrived the girl from before was sitting there waiting.
Anyway, she showed me to a booth and I changed clothes, but then the owner came in. She said the cops were going around to different places in the neighborhood, and she wanted to just shut down for the night. Gave me my money back. She said enforcement was really bad lately, and actually told me it would be better if I didn't try to go there. Which is not what I'd expect the owner to say, why'know?
Anyway, don't know if somebody saw me go in and called in a report, or if it was just a coincidence. But the cops got there about 10 minutes after I did, so I dunno.
Not the experience I was looking for. [/QUOTE]Can you explain where it was, so we are aware? I've been to 2-3 places in the last months and never had a problem.
Cheers,
Sauro
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[CodeWord103], that is
[quote=gildo;1146273]this definitely wasn't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] unless she drinks a ton of water. it had almost no smell and it just had a slightly salty taste. i have no fucking idea what that thick gel was either. i don't think she came in with some lube already jammed up her pussy. after some more sucking and fingering shot #2 came.[/quote]hey, congrats! you just had your first rep002 experience!
1) never did a ultrasound examination? you have to drink heaps of water, hold it for the exam, and then [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. you [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] like you are a freakin' water tank leaking!
2) when you keep drinking lots of water, your [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] becomes clear as water, no smell, but the minerals are there (specially sodium, thus the salty taste)
3) the gel was probably lube. they apply it outside and come to you.
4) squirting is a yet debated phenomenon: possible, but divides specialists. and by no way it would be a shower like that.
welcome to the rep002 world!
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[QUOTE=Tgovm;1155520]Interested! I'm mid-20's, PM me.[/QUOTE]Zarcady and tgovm, unfortunately I can't get a subscription right now (somethings wrong with the system and it asks me to mail the money which by the time it processes I'm out of korea). If you leave me your phone numbers [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue] ill contact you guys. Please take down this post if e mail is not allowed.
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[QUOTE=Eisflamme; 1155486]Hi guys,
This seems like a ridiculous question but: Do you guys shave your privates before you head out for business? I heard that in Korea they consider it as a sign of having had Craps or whatever and I once got funny looks while relaxing in a bath house. Did you ever run into problems when appearing shaved. Man I feel silly for asking this. [/QUOTE]Thanks guys for answering my question! Now I think we have a couple of people interested in the room salon meeting so it could be a night of mongering for the ISG members! We just got to coordinate the time and the venue, etc.
And to answer your question. YES. Don't feel silly as it's a cultural difference between the asian and western cultures (I guess to a certain extent) I'm a gyopo where it's socially acceptable to shave or trim to present a cleaner appearance of your johnson so that used to be a regular routine for me UNTIL I came to korea.
I was at a motel in Yeoksam that provides SPs and it was there that I got rejected. By a hooker! I'm not really trying to degrade SPs as I have come to realise that they are normal people who has an unusual occupation but it did not leave me with a good feeling. She saw that I was shaven and immediately got suspicious, asking why I shaved and such. Surprised, I told her that it was a regular thing to do in Australia to appear presentable and neat. Still suspicious, she asked if she can 'inspect' me LOL. Confused, but determined not to hide anything, I agreed and we spent an uncomfortable minute or two where she was checking my johnson and the related areas. She didn't seem to find anything but was still about suss about it, she said, she's not going to be able to service me. She explained that it was because korean men never shaves, UNLESS he has lice which might be crabs (I never bothered to find out what crabs are tbh LOL). Now it never hit me that there can be lice in your pubes but I guess it's plausible that it could happen, if you are dirty or whatnot.
After that, I decided not to shave, but it's not like the pubes grow overnight so I worried about not being able to monger during the rest of my stay here; but I found out that most girls will service you but they will ALWAYS ask why you are shaven. I've mongered around several times at the RLDs and they will always ask but they won't refuse my service, rather, they will sometimes complain that it pricks them because I'm trying to grow them back, but it's at a stage where its abit short so it's prickly hahaha. = (
If they ask, you just got to pretend that it's the first time hearing about it and I guess it's okay for them. They will usually say it's because of lice, or that only sick men with some kind of disease will shave in korea, or that I heard it was a bad omen or something like that but it's not really a good thing to be shaven in korea hahaha. I guess they got to protect their pussy because that's how they make their money.
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[QUOTE=Zarcady; 1155737]T I've mongered around several times at the RLDs and they will always ask but they won't refuse my service, rather, they will sometimes complain that it pricks them because I'm trying to grow them back, but it's at a stage where its abit short so it's prickly hahaha. = (
If they ask, you just got to pretend that it's the first time hearing about it and I guess it's okay for them. They will usually say it's because of lice, or that only sick men with some kind of disease will shave in korea, or that I heard it was a bad omen or something like that but it's not really a good thing to be shaven in korea hahaha. I guess they got to protect their pussy because that's how they make their money.[/QUOTE]I was almost trimmed when I had my past three experiences. Nobody asked about it. But now I am clean shaven, don't know what they will say if I go.
By the way, pardon my Ignorance, what is room salon meeting and can you people add me? I am asian, is it a problem?
With thanks and regards
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[QUOTE=Zarcady;1155737]And to answer your question. YES. Don't feel silly as it's a cultural difference between the asian and western cultures (I guess to a certain extent) I'm a gyopo where it's socially acceptable to shave or trim to present a cleaner appearance of your johnson so that used to be a regular routine for me UNTIL I came to korea.[/QUOTE]Thanks Zarcardy, same situation here: Kyopo, from beginning on trained to keep his privates shaved (though the rest is still hairy LOL). Anyway, will keep it in mind and stay away from the bathhouses here in Gwangju. I'll be in Seoul beginning of next week, if you need a wingman let me know (don't actually know whether I can read messages without subscription).
One more thing: Gildo was mentioning Hue Anma near the Renaissance Hotel. Could anybody please give me a direction as of which street I should take? And has anybody tried their two girl program and could tell me more. I couldn't find anything and I am intersted in trying that (or another 3some-like program you might know of in Seoul). I promise I will write a report if I get any action. The (_be)
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[quote=sauro07;1155686]hey, congrats! you just had your first [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103][CodeWord103][/url] experience![/quote]uh, no. more like "welcome to the world of female ejaculation!"
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[QUOTE=Sauro07;1155686]And by no way it would be a shower like that.[/QUOTE]Never been with a squirter, right?
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[QUOTE=FisherKorea;1154964]I have no Paypal or similar credit card system here in Korea.[/QUOTE]You can try with the USD cash option then.
Safe and effective
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[QUOTE=Tgovm;1155520]Interested! I'm mid-20's, PM me.[/QUOTE]I would try to PM but it would be nice if you guys are subscribed. As non paying members don't have PM priviledges.
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Fetish Hand Job Room in Sillim-Dong
hey everyone,
i had been on hiatus on for awhile (always wrap it up) but had kept lurkering on the site to get the most out of my subscription. but i saw that gildo had posted some attachment docs which had a fetish title. i was curious if there was a place near where i lived. and to my happy surprise there was. it is near sillim9dong or seoul national university. the crazy thing is that i had walked by it for months. it is called imagenoble but the outside sign is called club. n. b.
here is a link to a road map.
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?pan=343.4558436655975&tilt=-18.38239592711391&zoom=2&panoid=1017058783&screenmode=normal&map_type=type_skyview&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=roadview&q=&urlx=486587&urly=1103148&urllevel=3[/url]
the number is 02-873-7034 ext. 5 (but i didn't have to use 5). the guy does not speak english. there are no managers that speak english.
you need a i'd / password or korean national i'd number to access their site but you can use google search to go through a few pages through the backdoor.
here is the webpage for the stats of the "managers" but you cannot click on their individual message post reviews.
[url]http://imagenoble.com/src/bbs/board.php?bo_table=sub0201[/url]
the fancy part of this place is that there are special themed rooms like japan room, school room, bar room, subway room, jail room, and hospital room. here is the page with some thumbnails.
[url]http://imagenoble.com/src/bbs/board.php?bo_table=sub0104[/url]
i finally broke my break be / see i was just curious. i called and made a reservation. i'm korean but speak little or no korean. so i try to talk as little as possible so they don't reject me. they ask what time and your reservation name. remember it's on the 3rd floor and it's the non-labeled door on the right as you walk up to the 3rd floor. the other door on the left is something else. i was confused and went in the wrong door at first. i went in the right door and the guy is a young guy but built like a tank. we made formal introductions and he took a second look at me since of my western accent. we looked at each other for a minute and i didn't know if he was going to pull a gun on me. he relaxed and lead me to a room while trying to keep analyzing me. standard routine with get undressed, take a shower, and press the call button.
each room has like a foam mattress, dance pole. the girl that i met was very nice and really embarrassed that i didn't speak korean well. i knew this wasn't going to be a mind blowing session because of the breaking of the 4th wall and we couldn't communicate well. so i thought i would get as much information as i could. here is what i learned and i would hope that you use this information without throwing me under the bus because i'd like to go back some day.
the standard rules for hand job places. touching is allowed but nothing under the clothes. you can't kiss. some managers allow you to touch under their bra and their breasts. but she said that every manager is different with different tastes and preferences. you get an hour with the girl. they'll give you handjob with the typical gel and clean you up with wet tissues. she said a lot of guys have fetishes for stockings and legs so a lot of girls do rubbing with their feet but i honestly couldn't get it up that way. she offered a spit fetish which is where while giving me a handjob she drools spit over my cock and shows her tongue but doesn't lick your cock. she said that the most comfy room for the girls is the bar room because of the big comfy couch. she said that the least comfortable place is the subway room because the flat large seat (it's more of a felted desk flush with the wall). i saw the subway room and it was well decorated but i could tell that it would not be comfortable to lie there. she said guys like that the most. she said that it would be good for me because it usually doesn't involve speaking. the hospital one is used when guys pretend to be patients with erectile defunction and she "tries" to cure you. the school rooms were you can choose to be a student or teacher but she said you should let the girl be the teacher because they're much better at leading. some guys like s&m where they'll be yelled at but only some of the girls do that. no room looked like it could handle crazy stuff like a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103][CodeWord103][/url]. she said that the most common request is just posing and there are mirrors in each room.
i asked about foreigners as she said that i was the first gyopo and she said that it was just awkward talking with me so no girls couldn't do any role playing. she said that they did have an indo guy which i am thinking of an indian guy. she suggested the subway room because there is little or no talking. she said it is just too hard or too awkward to have a role play with a non-korean speaking person. i was way too shy to ask for anything but i would guess that they would take direction well and you do have the hour. she did say that they do get fucking crazy people but they kick them out easily. they probably don't just have a dancing pole in each room for nothing, right? i just gave her a break and cuddled for the rest of the hour.
she said that they are undergoing renovations and repairs. typically there is a monitor in each room which is attached to the changing room so you can see girls changing while you wait. but they're having tech difficulties. they used to let customers pick clothes but the clothes room is in disarray so they don't do that but the owner is working on it along with the renovations.
from my review it's a nice place because the rooms are nicely decorated and the girls look all 9's. you're just going to be paying 70, 000won for the atmosphere of the room. i liked it compared to the super cramped kiss rooms. but if you want a good massage or better service (like bbbj) i'd try a double pole service or a place like cool. i was disappointed because it was a lackluster handjob but the girl was very polite, nice, and beautiful. she also answered all my questions and gave me a tour of the rooms. so i think the info was worth it for this board.
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BBS near SNU (update)
Hey,
After my visit to the fetish room I was left wanting so I thought I try a new massage place. I went through the forums to find a well reviewed place near SNU subway station.
Here is a road view map.
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?pan=207.42611380495458&tilt=2.590246698820604&zoom=3&panoid=1017073518&screenMode=normal&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&q=&urlX=488586&urlY=1106176&urlLevel=3[/url]
I was kind of on the fence whether I should go upstairs to the Kiss Room or the BBS downstairs. But the BBS review on the forum was so favorable I thought I trust it. I really regret it considering that the post was even a few years ago. *sigh*
The place was really sleazy. It smelled bad. It cost 90, 000. The woman's face looked nice but aged. I'm a fucking retard. Her clothes really hide her obese body. The massage is nonexistent. She let me fuck her missionary. I literally was regretting it while I was doing her and realized that men really can fuck anything. I do not recommend. Stay away. I need to go take a shower now and scrub off the memory again.
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IVY. Near COEX, City Air Terminal, Samseong Station
Hi again,
So this is why I quit this hobby. I can't have the last session I have to be bad because I keep thinking about it. So I try a well known place. I thought I try IVY for the first time.
It's near COEX shopping mall. It is across from the City Air Terminal where you can check in your suitcases for your flight and get a shuttle to the airport. It's near the Samseong Station which is on Line 2 (green).
Here is a daum road map (I know it's well known but I'm really terrible with written directions. GPS coordinates and screenshot saves me so much time finding a place).
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?pan=304.35147414791874&tilt=-1.169788831725425&zoom=3&panoid=1016966234&screenMode=normal&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&q=[/url]%EC%82%BC%EC%84%B1%EC%97%AD&urlX=512900&urlY=1113850&urlLevel=3.
I can't remember if it was 70, 000 or 80, 000. Walk in with no reservation. Very nice front desk guy. It was 1am but it was busy. The rooms look like narrow professional massage rooms. The rooms are closed off by curtains not doors. You can easily hear the other girls and guys which kind of bothered me. Showered and came back. The girl was cute. Gave me foot wash in the sink. Weak massage but I found that she was trained to speak very well to customers which made me think that they girls are instructed to because there was so much talking in the other rooms. Took her top off and gave a gelled handjob. She was very nice and smiley but told me that I was taking too long to cum which totally killed the mood and that her arm was getting tired. I was like "doesn't saying that make the guy not cum sooner". Her name was Sora with a black and white one piece.
Very professional and clean place. I would describe it as "dependable" but you'd just go there for the conversation (if you are Korean). There are better places for massages (like near SNU station and refer to my previous review) and go to Cool or Belle to get a BBBJ or more heavy rubbing and touching.
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Beauty and Beast. Handjob Place. Sillim
As I'm writing this I'm feeling like an alcoholic that fell off the wagon.
There is a handjob place similar to Cool and Belle near Sillim9dong.
Here is the Daum Road View Link.
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?pan=324.53284445868314&tilt=-4.512042636655211&zoom=3&panoid=1017073914&screenMode=normal&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&q=[/url]%EC%82%BC%EC%84%B1%EC%97%AD&urlX=486195&urlY=1102085&urlLevel=3.
I was interested in it because it said costumes on the alternate sign on the other side. Nope. They don't do that now.
It's in the basement with individual rooms. Each with a massage table in each. There are doors. You pay 70, 000won, take the shower, then press the call button. I went for two different sessions with two different girls. Both were not knockouts and flatchested. I am thinking because of the location that it doesn't attract the best talent. Girls names were BorLa and Jinhee.
Service was sub-par and mechanical. You do get BBBJ, nipple licking, and a gelled handjob. They close on Sundays for rest but it was odd because the light was still on on Sunday.
The experience just made me realize how good looking the girls were at Belle and ImageNoble.
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Info on Itaewon?
Hey Everyone,
I don't mean to spam the forum but thought I just ask for some info or advice as I feel I've paid my dues.
I'm kind of tired of trying to navigate the Korean scene and would like to finally talk to a SP that speaks English. I get the feeling that this forum is more in tune to Itaewon. I'm finding that Itaewon has cleaned up a lot. I know that people think it the bottom of the bottom but that wasn't my impression when I visited Hooker Hill awhile time ago. I'm assuming this is the place.
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?pan=82.72078167201204&tilt=-2.339577663450842&zoom=3&panoid=1017257386&screenMode=normal&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&q=[/url]%EC%82%BC%EC%84%B1%EC%97%AD&urlX=499067&urlY=1120700&urlLevel=3.
For me it was just very intimidating. I would consider myself taller and more muscular than the average Korean guy (though that's not very hard). But when I see packs of drunk rowdy white guys with thick necks and look like they could all be hired as bouncers, I just fucking lose my nerve since I usually go alone. Also some of the hot girls off the main hill are just sitting on the steps at DAY club just chilling and smoking. Are they on break or can you approach them? I am decent looking Korean but am young 20's so I did get open doors and calls from girls on the main hill who I thought were very attractive and not the dregs like people have described. I didn't go in as I just wanted to survey the entire scene.
So going through the forums, I think I get the routine so how's this. Buy some overpriced drinks for yourself and the girl who you have interest in. I read on another blog that the girls get a salary of 600, 000won and get half the price of the ladydrinks which I think is awesome for the girl because minimum wage in Korea is like 5, 000 / hr. So for a girl to make an instant 10, 000 off a 20, 000 ladydrink, for her would be a fucking amazing deal. Ok, so you pay for the drinks to break the ice and get a feel for the girl then negotiate how much for what you want. And you're not supposed to keep buying drinks expecting that the girl will make the first move since it's just easy money for her to just drink for free. You want to haggle always and be / show that your always willing to walk. Minimum would be 100, 000 for quick FS incall where they will take you in a back room or lock up the small bar for you. 200, 000 / HR for outcall FS. I've read that you could get a BBBJCIM for 60, 000 but is that still possible?
I'm just looking for a PSE English speaking girl for DATY and BBBJCIM for under 80, 000. Possible?
Is it odd / bad for a guy to go on his own walking through the Hill?
On the PDF map (I've attached it) of the places that the US military soldiers are banned, there are a few that are red not on the hill. Are these even worth checking out?
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[QUOTE=Turtle Power; 1156072]Hey Everyone,
I don't mean to spam the forum but thought I just ask for some info or advice as I feel I've paid my dues.
I'm kind of tired of trying to navigate the Korean scene and would like to finally talk to a SP that speaks English. I get the feeling that this forum is more in tune to Itaewon. I'm finding that Itaewon has cleaned up a lot. I know that people think it the bottom of the bottom but that wasn't my impression when I visited Hooker Hill awhile time ago. I'm assuming this is the place.
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?pan=82.72078167201204&tilt=-2.339577663450842&zoom=3&panoid=1017257386&screenMode=normal&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&q=[/url]
%EC%82%BC%EC%84%B1%EC%97%AD&urlX=499067&urlY=1120700&urlLevel=3.
For me it was just very intimidating. I would consider myself taller and more muscular than the average Korean guy (though that's not very hard). But when I see packs of drunk rowdy white guys with thick necks and look like they could all be hired as bouncers, I just fucking lose my nerve since I usually go alone. Also some of the hot girls off the main hill are just sitting on the steps at DAY club just chilling and smoking. Are they on break or can you approach them? I am decent looking Korean but am young 20's so I did get open doors and calls from girls on the main hill who I thought were very attractive and not the dregs like people have described. I didn't go in as I just wanted to survey the entire scene.
So going through the forums, I think I get the routine so how's this. Buy some overpriced drinks for yourself and the girl who you have interest in. I read on another blog that the girls get a salary of 600, 000won and get half the price of the ladydrinks which I think is awesome for the girl because minimum wage in Korea is like 5, 000 / hr. So for a girl to make an instant 10, 000 off a 20, 000 ladydrink, for her would be a fucking amazing deal. Ok, so you pay for the drinks to break the ice and get a feel for the girl then negotiate how much for what you want. And you're not supposed to keep buying drinks expecting that the girl will make the first move since it's just easy money for her to just drink for free. You want to haggle always and be / show that your always willing to walk. Minimum would be 100, 000 for quick FS incall where they will take you in a back room or lock up the small bar for you. 200, 000 / HR for outcall FS. I've read that you could get a BBBJCIM for 60, 000 but is that still possible?
I'm just looking for a PSE English speaking girl for DATY and BBBJCIM for under 80, 000. Possible?
Is it odd / bad for a guy to go on his own walking through the Hill?
On the PDF map (I've attached it) of the places that the US military soldiers are banned, there are a few that are red not on the hill. Are these even worth checking out? [/QUOTE]Hey turtle power! Thanks for the great infos, I just have a couple of questions that I want to ask you.
How would you rate the SPs at itaewon that are easily available for foreigers to SPs at the RLD that are more accesible to native koreans? I've heard alot of good reports about knockout SPs being available at the hookers hill especially in HJ places like Belle or cool but then I also heard that it doesn't really compare to the SPs that are available to native koreans and that if you are korean, then you are better off to monger elsewhere.
I'm a gyopo myself and I haven't been refused anywhere so far because my korean is passable. I wouldn't say the quality of the SPs are outstanding in the places that I've been to and was really curious as to the quality of the SPs at itaewon.
Maybe you can give me a quick rundown on the differences? It would help me alot =D.
Cheers!
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Sex workers rally against police crackdown
If prostitution and pimping is illegal, why didn't the police arrest them?
What's up with the coins in the department store?
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/masked-south-korean-sex-workers-rally-against-police-crackdown-on-brothels/2011/05/17/AFMCbW5G_story.html[/url]
SEOUL, South Korea — Hundreds of prostitutes and pimps rallied Tuesday near a red-light district in Seoul to protest a police crackdown on brothels, with some unsuccessfully attempting to set themselves on fire.
A crowd of about 400 people, mostly women wearing baseball caps, masks and sunglasses, chanted slogans like, 'Guarantee the right to live! ' during the four-hour rally.
At one point, about 20 protesters in their underwear and covered in body and face paint doused themselves in flammable liquid in an apparent attempt to burn themselves, but others stopped them from lighting any flames. Some of the women then sat in the street and wept and screamed, while other protesters consoled them.
Minor scuffles between protesters and police officers erupted after the rally, but there were no reports of major injuries.
Prostitution is illegal in South Korea but is widespread despite repeated government crackdowns.
The rally comes weeks after officials began stationing police cars near brothels in a bid to drive away people looking to pay for sex.
The sex workers accuse a nearby department store of pushing police to take such measures. Police deny the claim.
As part of their protest, a group of prostitutes on Sunday tried to buy expensive items at the department store with only coins; when they were rejected, they placed large piles of coins on the department store's floors.
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Turtle power- some great reports! Too bad you never linked up with me as my wingman. Maybe another time.
There was a place in Gangnam called Zest which was kinda neat, gone now.
I'm heading out of the country for a year or two. This forum has been invaluable. I recommend everyone to get a membership and participate in the discussion. The cost is small to support such a valuable source of information.
I would like to shout out a thank you to kimchi warrior. Your reports were inspirational and sorely missed.
Take care guys and wrap that rascal.
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Vip
I'm at the InterCon and feeling like taking a walk to this place. How do I get GPS co-ords out of the Daum map? Thanks!
[QUOTE=Turtle Power; 1156035]Hi again,
So this is why I quit this hobby. I can't have the last session I have to be bad because I keep thinking about it. So I try a well known place. I thought I try IVY for the first time.
It's near COEX shopping mall. It is across from the City Air Terminal where you can check in your suitcases for your flight and get a shuttle to the airport. It's near the Samseong Station which is on Line 2 (green).
Here is a daum road map (I know it's well known but I'm really terrible with written directions. GPS coordinates and screenshot saves me so much time finding a place).
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?pan=304.35147414791874&tilt=-1.169788831725425&zoom=3&panoid=1016966234&screenMode=normal&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&q=[/url]
%EC%82%BC%EC%84%B1%EC%97%AD&urlX=512900&urlY=1113850&urlLevel=3.
I can't remember if it was 70, 000 or 80, 000. Walk in with no reservation. Very nice front desk guy. It was 1am but it was busy. The rooms look like narrow professional massage rooms. The rooms are closed off by curtains not doors. You can easily hear the other girls and guys which kind of bothered me. Showered and came back. The girl was cute. Gave me foot wash in the sink. Weak massage but I found that she was trained to speak very well to customers which made me think that they girls are instructed to because there was so much talking in the other rooms. Took her top off and gave a gelled handjob. She was very nice and smiley but told me that I was taking too long to cum which totally killed the mood and that her arm was getting tired. I was like "doesn't saying that make the guy not cum sooner". Her name was Sora with a black and white one piece.
Very professional and clean place. I would describe it as "dependable" but you'd just go there for the conversation (if you are Korean). There are better places for massages (like near SNU station and refer to my previous review) and go to Cool or Belle to get a BBBJ or more heavy rubbing and touching. [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Eisflamme; 1155885]Thanks Zarcardy, same situation here: Kyopo, from beginning on trained to keep his privates shaved (though the rest is still hairy LOL). Anyway, will keep it in mind and stay away from the bathhouses here in Gwangju. I'll be in Seoul beginning of next week, if you need a wingman let me know (don't actually know whether I can read messages without subscription).
One more thing: Gildo was mentioning Hue Anma near the Renaissance Hotel. Could anybody please give me a direction as of which street I should take? And has anybody tried their two girl program and could tell me more. I couldn't find anything and I am intersted in trying that (or another 3some-like program you might know of in Seoul). I promise I will write a report if I get any action. The (_be) [/QUOTE]Ya I went to hue for that. The event is only available during the daytime (Before 8). But when I went the girls were not so fantastic looking. I ended up getting a refund because I just couldn't do it.
I am not sure of the directions, but I think it was close to Renassaince. Right across from hue is this big golf shop called kIM young something. But hue is easy to miss. You have to go inside this alley. The alley is right across from the golf shop, which is right across from Renaissance.
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Thanks
[quote=turtle power; 1156018]hey everyone,
i had been on hiatus on for awhile (always wrap it up) but had kept lurkering on the site to get the most out of my subscription. but i saw that gildo had posted some attachment docs which had a fetish title. i was curious if there was a place near where i lived. and to my happy surprise there was. it is near sillim9dong or seoul national university. the crazy thing is that i had walked by it for months. it is called imagenoble but the outside sign is called club. n. b.
here is a link to a road map.
[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?pan=343.4558436655975&tilt=-18.38239592711391&zoom=2&panoid=1017058783&screenmode=normal&map_type=type_skyview&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=roadview&q=&urlx=486587&urly=1103148&urllevel=3[/url]
the number is 02-873-7034 ext. 5 (but i didn't have to use 5). the guy does not speak english. there are no managers that speak english.
you need a i'd / password or korean national i'd number to access their site but you can use google search to go through a few pages through the backdoor.
here is the webpage for the stats of the "managers" but you cannot click on their individual message post reviews.
[url]http://imagenoble.com/src/bbs/board.php?bo_table=sub0201[/url]
the fancy part of this place is that there are special themed rooms like japan room, school room, bar room, subway room, jail room, and hospital room. here is the page with some thumbnails.
[url]http://imagenoble.com/src/bbs/board.php?bo_table=sub0104[/url]
i finally broke my break be / see i was just curious. i called and made a reservation. i'm korean but speak little or no korean. so i try to talk as little as possible so they don't reject me. they ask what time and your reservation name. remember it's on the 3rd floor and it's the non-labeled door on the right as you walk up to the 3rd floor. the other door on the left is something else. i was confused and went in the wrong door at first. i went in the right door and the guy is a young guy but built like a tank. we made formal introductions and he took a second look at me since of my western accent. we looked at each other for a minute and i didn't know if he was going to pull a gun on me. he relaxed and lead me to a room while trying to keep analyzing me. standard routine with get undressed, take a shower, and press the call button.
each room has like a foam mattress, dance pole. the girl that i met was very nice and really embarrassed that i didn't speak korean well. i knew this wasn't going to be a mind blowing session because of the breaking of the 4th wall and we couldn't communicate well. so i thought i would get as much information as i could. here is what i learned and i would hope that you use this information without throwing me under the bus because i'd like to go back some day.
the standard rules for hand job places. touching is allowed but nothing under the clothes. you can't kiss. some managers allow you to touch under their bra and their breasts. but she said that every manager is different with different tastes and preferences. you get an hour with the girl. they'll give you handjob with the typical gel and clean you up with wet tissues. she said a lot of guys have fetishes for stockings and legs so a lot of girls do rubbing with their feet but i honestly couldn't get it up that way. she offered a spit fetish which is where while giving me a handjob she drools spit over my cock and shows her tongue but doesn't lick your cock. she said that the most comfy room for the girls is the bar room because of the big comfy couch. she said that the least comfortable place is the subway room because the flat large seat (it's more of a felted desk flush with the wall). i saw the subway room and it was well decorated but i could tell that it would not be comfortable to lie there. she said guys like that the most. she said that it would be good for me because it usually doesn't involve speaking. the hospital one is used when guys pretend to be patients with erectile defunction and she "tries" to cure you. the school rooms were you can choose to be a student or teacher but she said you should let the girl be the teacher because they're much better at leading. some guys like s&m where they'll be yelled at but only some of the girls do that. no room looked like it could handle crazy stuff like a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103][CodeWord103][/url]. she said that the most common request is just posing and there are mirrors in each room.
i asked about foreigners as she said that i was the first gyopo and she said that it was just awkward talking with me so no girls couldn't do any role playing. she said that they did have an indo guy which i am thinking of an indian guy. she suggested the subway room because there is little or no talking. she said it is just too hard or too awkward to have a role play with a non-korean speaking person. i was way too shy to ask for anything but i would guess that they would take direction well and you do have the hour. she did say that they do get fucking crazy people but they kick them out easily. they probably don't just have a dancing pole in each room for nothing, right? i just gave her a break and cuddled for the rest of the hour.
she said that they are undergoing renovations and repairs. typically there is a monitor in each room which is attached to the changing room so you can see girls changing while you wait. but they're having tech difficulties. they used to let customers pick clothes but the clothes room is in disarray so they don't do that but the owner is working on it along with the renovations.
from my review it's a nice place because the rooms are nicely decorated and the girls look all 9's. you're just going to be paying 70, 000won for the atmosphere of the room. i liked it compared to the super cramped kiss rooms. but if you want a good massage or better service (like bbbj) i'd try a double pole service or a place like cool. i was disappointed because it was a lackluster handjob but the girl was very polite, nice, and beautiful. she also answered all my questions and gave me a tour of the rooms. so i think the info was worth it for this board.[/quote]do you remember the name of the girl?
you're awesome. thanks a lot. do you mind posting the websites for the hj / fetish places?
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Vip
Hehe. As luck would have it, the lady from my office took me to lunch and we walked right past VIP! So. There will be a visit later this evening. Yum!
[QUOTE=HeavyFuel;1156292]I'm at the InterCon and feeling like taking a walk to this place. How do I get GPS co-ords out of the Daum map? Thanks![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Brian 3232; 1156334]Ya I went to hue for that. The event is only available during the daytime (Before 8). But when I went the girls were not so fantastic looking. I ended up getting a refund because I just couldn't do it.
[/QUOTE]Cheers Brian, this already helps a lot. Sorry to hear that you didn't like what was on display, I think I will try it anyway. Does that mean you left without doing anything or you chose to have only the normal package?
5 more days until I leave for Seoul. I'm getting antsy.
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LE actions on RLD
I read from media reports about a protest set by pimps and WG in the streets of Seoul (RDL I assume) against the recent LE enforcements against RLD and the abouts.
Can anyone there elaborate a bit on the mongering side and effects (apart the usual ones as in many places LE is awake!) of the LE action and the impact of the protest?
I mean, in many countries such a protest would have been stopped by LE immediately.
From image reports it looked as the protest went on calmly and as a legitimate one.
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[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1156611]I read from media reports about a protest set by pimps and WG in the streets of Seoul (RDL I assume) against the recent LE enforcements against RLD and the abouts.
Can anyone there elaborate a bit on the mongering side and effects (apart the usual ones as in many places LE is awake!) of the LE action and the impact of the protest?
I mean, in many countries such a protest would have been stopped by LE immediately.
From image reports it looked as the protest went on calmly and as a legitimate one. [/QUOTE]Protests in Korea are not illegal. Protesting here is a national sport; every week in the summer there's something being protested in Kwanghwamun. Nothing for LE to break up as long as everyone there is peaceful.
This is not the first protest by pimps and hos. Probably more like the 6th or 7th. They've been going on for the last few years, ever since the (then) new Police Chief decided to close all the RLDs. Six (seven?) years on, and they're still there (although smaller).
No impact on mongering aside from the fact that RLDs have gotten smaller (and working girls moving to officetels or the Internet). Doesn't really matter to me anyway as I never go to the RLDs aside from the one time I went to Miari pre-crackdown. Not my thing.
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Reply to Zarcandy. Itaewon Questions. Gyopo
i've only been to yongsan (when it was open) and yeungdeungpo rld. the a-row girls there are definitely comparable to the hotter girls in itaewon but again there were not as pretty girls too. it would be like if the a row and b row girls were all on a small street. actually the funniest moment was when one drunk old korean man stopped walking suddenly and started to say something along the lines of "daaaaaaammmmmmmnnnn! that's fucking hot" in korean. i walked to see what he was peering at and it was a bombshell in a polkerface dress that made my jaw drop. again i know that it is common knowledge that there are bottom feeders in itaewon which you would never see in a a-row at a rld, but i felt there was enough eye candy for even most guys.
i didn't partake or go into any bars in itaewon. maybe just circled the hill a few times. i felt i'd be eaten alive if i went if without any prep which is something that i think that rlds wouldn't have. i haven't had to haggle much at rlds for a good deal. also (this is just my assumption) that the girls of itaewon would have a different kind of sexuality than the girls at rld since they are catering to different audiences. my assumption would be like watching asian made porn and western porn. also i just want to explain in english what i want instead of a girl giving me the raised eyebrow and have me explain it like i'm a toddler.
as for belle and cool. i find cool pretty consistent with hotties and sometimes you win the lottery. all the girls at cool were tall and looked like they could work at car shows. belle on the other hand is like playing russian roulette but most of the girls i've met go much farther than the rules allow you to. belle would be more like the girl next door from my experience.
i have heard that the prettiest girls are at room salons. actually in a recent article in the paper even though the economy has been hard on karaoke rooms with a decrease of 13, room salons have flourished and are doing well despite a slump in economic times. but i guess it would be much more expensive as it would be a couple hundred dollars for the room and then more money to take the girl home. i wouldn't consider myself a cheap-ass but i don't think i could spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars for one girl even if they were a 10.
[quote=zarcady; 1156173]hey turtle power! thanks for the great infos, i just have a couple of questions that i want to ask you.
how would you rate the sps at itaewon that are easily available for foreigers to sps at the rld that are more accesible to native koreans? i've heard alot of good reports about knockout sps being available at the hookers hill especially in hj places like belle or cool but then i also heard that it doesn't really compare to the sps that are available to native koreans and that if you are korean, then you are better off to monger elsewhere.
i'm a gyopo myself and i haven't been refused anywhere so far because my korean is passable. i wouldn't say the quality of the sps are outstanding in the places that i've been to and was really curious as to the quality of the sps at itaewon.
maybe you can give me a quick rundown on the differences? it would help me alot =d.
cheers! [/quote]
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GPS Coordinates for VIP Massage . COEX. Samseong Station. City Air Terminal
You right click and in the drop down menu it should be you the option of destination pin (Here is the Korean symbols &46020; &52265.
Or if the Korean is just too much (as it is for me) you can cross reference the spot with Google Maps. Again right click to place a pin for destination. It'll show the GPS coordinates in the left hand panel. Copy and paste the numbers in general Google search which will give you the correct "degree" annotations.
The GPS coordinates for VIP are "+37° 30' 33. 88", +127° 3' 29. 60"
[QUOTE=HeavyFuel;1156292]I'm at the InterCon and feeling like taking a walk to this place. How do I get GPS co-ords out of the Daum map? Thanks![/QUOTE]
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Reply to Brian ImageNoble Fetish Sillim Honey
The girl that helped me out at ImageNoble was Honey. I cross referenced her name afterward with the manager list. I was sad to see that she wasn't there but I'm either guessing that they haven't updated the website or she lied to me. I'm hoping the former since she was very nice, patient and I thought I gave her a very easy session.
She told me she is 165cm tall. She has braces which she had for little less than one year but still hurt. She has very long wavy hair which nice to look at. She is very pretty and I would give her a 8/10. You're going to be expecting an A cup but she declined to take off her top but let me slide my hand in her dress as much as I wanted. If it wasn't for all the Q&A I would have considered it a loss considering I wasn't into the themed room as much as people who go there are and I'd leave happier at a good massage place or from a place like Belle. She is a nice polite girl and said that she doesn't do the S&M prison room. Which makes me kind of wonder what kind of ***** works that room. LOL.
[QUOTE=Brian 3232; 1156357]Do you remember the name of the girl?
You're awesome. Thanks a lot. Do you mind posting the websites for the HJ / fetish places? [/QUOTE]
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Around times square mall
I understand around times square / Marriott there is some action can anyone give.
Me some walking directions? Thanks
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Vip
Went to VIP past midnight. For 80k, was led to a tiny room with a wash basin. After changing into strangely colored shorts, Yun arrived. Washed my feet in the basin. God knows why. Proceeded to do a less than noticeable massage. In under fifteen minutes she had me turn over, took my shorts off, rinsed Johnson with wet towel and proceeded to stroke it with copious amounts of gel. Again, less than noticeable effort. She barely knew how to stroke! I had to show her how a stroke works! Cleaned me up with a wet towel after the act and I left. Released but not relieved! This monger was must seek satisfaction elsewhere!
[QUOTE=Turtle Power; 1156662]You right click and in the drop down menu it should be you the option of destination pin (Here is the Korean symbols &46020; &52265.
Or if the Korean is just too much (as it is for me) you can cross reference the spot with Google Maps. Again right click to place a pin for destination. It'll show the GPS coordinates in the left hand panel. Copy and paste the numbers in general Google search which will give you the correct "degree" annotations.
The GPS coordinates for VIP are "+37° 30' 33. 88", +127° 3' 29. 60"[/QUOTE]
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Hi guys,
My girl-friend and me enjoyed very much reading about your experiences of the nightlife in South Korea (thanks especially to TurtlePower.).
We will be in SK in July for the first time and we are looking for some nice entertainment in stripclubs, brothels or massage salons. Don't get me wrong its far away of beeing a sex tourism holiday (like we had it in Thailand.) BUT we would very much enjoy some erotic opportunities. After doing some research and reading we are getting the impression that its not thaaat simple, so some questions arose:
1. Is it difficult for a couple to get a girl with you for a reasonable price?
2. I read that a lot of Russian girls are working as prostitutes in SK. Is that true and could anyone recommend a place?
3. Do massage offer erotic massages for women / couples as well?
4. What about striptease clubs? They do not seem to be that common?
5. We very much enjoyed the girls in Thailand so thailandian girls would be fine as well.
6. Are there districts where foreigners are really welcomed?
7. And the 1000k question: Is there a facility that by any chance combines striptease, prostitition AND accomodation? That would be lovely.
Best,
Gg
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[QUOTE=Coitus68; 1156624]Protests in Korea are not illegal. Protesting here is a national sport; every week in the summer there's something being protested in Kwanghwamun. Nothing for LE to break up as long as everyone there is peaceful.
This is not the first protest by pimps and hos. Probably more like the 6th or 7th. They've been going on for the last few years, ever since the (then) new Police Chief decided to close all the RLDs. Six (seven?) years on, and they're still there (although smaller).
No impact on mongering aside from the fact that RLDs have gotten smaller (and working girls moving to officetels or the Internet). Doesn't really matter to me anyway as I never go to the RLDs aside from the one time I went to Miari pre-crackdown. Not my thing. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the insider input! .
My definition on the protest was not to call them illegal, but in my POV protesting in favour of something that is "against the law" sounds weird. Not as a mroal judgement on the protests, but any government would not be happy to see people protesting because police is "defending the law".
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Itaewon & Gangnam
[QUOTE=Turtle Power;1156072]Also some of the hot girls off the main hill are just sitting on the steps at DAY club just chilling and smoking. Are they on break or can you approach them?[/QUOTE]Someone on here can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this Day Club you are referring to is a tranny bar, maybe some sort of tranny show club or norebang? I'm not sure but I think the sign says "trans" in both English and Hangeul and the "women" sitting out front were probably not born women. If you're into that, that's cool I guess, but let's not lead unsuspecting guys on that may be new to mongering in Itaewon.
You ask a lot of, umm, silly questions about the Itaewon scene, but you seem to be a good contributor so I'll just tell you what a do, as a 30 year old round eye. First of all, just ignore the young millitary dudes. Actually, I would avoid them all together by either mongering in the early evening (5-8pm) or, my preferred time range, which would be 3-5am.
Also, I would avoid buying drinks for the girls and just get down to negotiations, but you may be more of a romantic than I am, so do whatever makes you comfortable. But it's not mandatory to buy a drink on the Hill.
Personally, I don't understand why any Korean guys, Western born or not, would waste their time around Hooker Hill (or even in Itaewon, for that matter) but if you want girls that speak English, I guess that's one of the few places to go for that.
As an aside, I made my way around the Hill last Tuesday around 4am or so and ran into Bean at Cabin. She's still got a nice thick ass and legs. I started from the top of the Hill and was going to make my way down to Texas to see Nara / Na Na, but I didn't make it! Maybe next week.
One more thing, in Gangnam between Cool and Angel, there looks to be a massage place called Sante massage on the fourth floor. Any info on this place? I only walked by it on my way to work, so I don't know anything about it.
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[QUOTE=Ezinho; 1156956]Someone on here can correct me if I'm wrong,
It. [\QUOTE]
Basially what E said, so not a correction; just an amplification.
If you want to avoid the high and tight crowd and their baggage train (the latter civvie contractors being far and away more troublesome) , just don't go on Friday or Saturday nights, especially at the end of the month (payday). That way you also miss all the english teacher and low end korean and other party trash.
The girls will "pop" out of their doors and at certain venues on the hill proper even come out and try to steer prospective punters into their bars. They don't loiter around on the stoops. Them are trannies, which is pretty obvious if you get within 10 feet of them or hear their voices.
Isn't Bean@"Manila" on the hill proper, or has she moved over to Cabin on the western shoulder? Walked past the latter a few days ago and it seems there is some new talent there and next door (besides the malnourished fillie and the notorious Ina who was thrown out of Ing for stealing another girl's purse and dosh. ABC also has at least one more new face. And Tattooed Nadia is no longer a peroxide blond at Moonshine.
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[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior;1157209]Isn't Bean@"Manila" on the hill proper, or has she moved over to Cabin on the western shoulder?[/QUOTE]Actually, we're both wrong. Bean works out of Bridge Bar, between ABC and Madrid. Not sure why I said Cabin.
[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior;1157209]
They don't loiter around on the stoops. Them are trannies, which is pretty obvious if you get within 10 feet of them or hear their voices.
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Very good point, and something newbies to the Hill should be aware of.
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[QUOTE=Ezinho;1157272]Actually, we're both wrong. Bean works out of Bridge Bar, between ABC and Madrid. Not sure why I said Cabin.[/QUOTE]Right, Bridge is in there too; did it used to be Manila, or is there also a Manila? For an old Recon guy, I'm getting careless. .
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Fantasy on the Hill
So I went to see the heavier set girl at Fantasy on the hill in the day. I talked to her mom too. I don't know if her mom is Miya or what her name is or whatever. She told me,"that's my mom", and told her to leave. I got a BBBJ from her for a while but she didn't like my talk during. So she gave me my money back, talked bad about me in Korean for a second and told me to leave.
I'm a dirt bag.
Yes. I am.
Paid nothing for a BBBJ.
No finish, but what the hey.
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[QUOTE=Jojo407; 1157436]So I went to see the heavier set girl at Fantasy on the hill in the day.
I got a BBBJ from her for a while but she didn't like my talk during. So she gave me my money back, [/QUOTE]Funny, this has to be a first but what were you saying that would make her do this? Besides being one of the cheapest providers on the hill she has one of the most playful and docile persona out there.
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Don't Know
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1157486]Funny, this has to be a first but what were you saying that would make her do this? Besides being one of the cheapest providers on the hill she has one of the most playful and docile persona out there.[/QUOTE]I have no idea. I think I just caught her at the wrong time. It was 1 in the afternoon. Yeah, it was cheap, $40, then a refund.
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Good times on the hill
Went out looking for action on the hill last night, and based on intel from a fellow hobbyist on ISG I had some specific targets. Had some drinks at debut, then wandered around to check out some of the options. Ended up at Texas with Nana. Very nice experience. Looks = 7. 5, service = 9. 300K for long time (on Fri night) , ended up being about 1. 5 hrs, back and forth BBJ & AR with awesome technique. Great use of hands and lots of spit on the BJ, followed by FS doggie. I ended up tipping another 100K on account of the great service. Would definitely repeat, although tonight will be my last night in Seoul, so I'll be lookin for a different gal.
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Escorts / officetel girls
Does anyone have any info on escorts in Seoul? I'd love to find someone who would come to my place rather than me having to go to anmas / the hill.
Also, how about officetel girls? I heard that's the place to find the hottest girls these days. In fact I'm pretty sure there are quite a few in my own building. Any way for a foreigner to access this scene?
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588 rld
So I took a trip to 588 RLD. I went to visit the heavier set girl that wears a school girl out fit in the back row. I've seen her before. She looked disinterested, unmotivated, and asked me for 100. Before it was 70 and she was smiling and ready to go. I thought,"F that". I walked around for a while and ended up with a heavier set girl in the front row. Only 60, FS, BBBJ, very kind, not pushy, funny, and got a pineapple juice at the end. Will repeat.
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[QUOTE=I Miss Millenium;1157626]Went out looking for action on the hill last night, and based on intel from a fellow hobbyist on ISG I had some specific targets. Had some drinks at debut, then wandered around to check out some of the options. Ended up at Texas with Nana. Very nice experience. Looks = 7. 5, service = 9. 300K for long time (on Fri night) , ended up being about 1. 5 hrs, back and forth BBJ & AR with awesome technique. Great use of hands and lots of spit on the BJ, followed by FS doggie. I ended up tipping another 100K on account of the great service. Would definitely repeat, although tonight will be my last night in Seoul, so I'll be lookin for a different gal.[/QUOTE]So. Na Na does AR. Has anyone else gotten this from her?
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[QUOTE=Jojo407;1157965]So. Na Na does AR. Has anyone else gotten this from her?[/QUOTE]Dunno, obviously, I'm guessing there's some confusion between lingual stimulation of the perineum and full on circling the drain and tongue stopper in the bunghole. The former is pretty common from better providers, the latter quite rare.
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Yep
[QUOTE=Jojo407;1157965]So. Na Na does AR. Has anyone else gotten this from her?[/QUOTE]She did for me (quite well, in fact). YMMV. I did negotiate for it up front. I actually keep some porn videos (AR, deepthroat, etc) on my phone that I sometimes show to providers up front (very helpful in cases of language barriers, and typically goes over pretty well). Has served me quite well in my world travels, I would recommend the strategy in general.
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Uslan foreigner bar. Las Vegas
Sorry to disrupt forum etiquette like this, but "other areas" thread doesn't seem to get much traffic: Anyways, I'm in Ulsan, and I found a "foreigner's bar" called las vegas full of filipina chicks (many of them very hot). Reading the forum, my understanding is that there would be a barfine system ( 150K) , but I had a strange experience last week:
At Las Vegas Wed night, about 15 girls (assumingly all filipinas) .7's & 8's all around. One of them caught my eye (Rachel) , so I bought her a drink. I asked if she would join me at my hotel for an hour. First she said she wasn't allowed to leave, but after some convincing she said she needed to ask her boss, and came back asking 400K won. This sounded pretty outrageous, so I countered with 250K won (still seemed quite high for Korea, but I was really digging this girl). She went away again and came back with her boss who wanted 300K won, and she wanted it all there on the spot. I told her I would pay 150K won bar fine and give the girl 150K, but she wouldn't budge. Furthermore, it was almost 2am and the place was devoid of customers. The girl was acting all interested and asked for my phone number to meet later, but the whole thing seemed kinda sketchy. I just had the feeling I would pay the 300K and then the girl would BS or try to upsell once we got to my hotel. Anyways, I just bailed (and girl didn't ever call). Can someone explain what was going on? Is this normal in Korea? This was my first (attempted) mongering in Korea outside of Itaewan, but I'm in Ulsan for a while and would really like to get some action specifically from Filipina girls. Any thoughts?
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Reply to Ggaribaldi. Hope you enjoy your trip.
That's an awesome gf you have.
I've never seen a massage place for couples. But here is a link to a Google Translate page to ask "Do you accept couples?" It'll also give you an idea of what characters to look for if your sign searching.
[url]http://translate.google.com/[/url]#ko|en|%EC%BB%A4%ED%94%8C%EC%9C%BC%EB%A1%9C%20%ED%95%A0%EC%88%98%EC%9E%88%EC%96%before%EC%9A%94%3F%0A.
Probably the most foreigner friendly area is Itaewon just because there are so many of them there. Motels (everywhere) are very cheap during the day if you state that you just need to "rest" which means a 3-4 hours and you can get amazing room for just $25. So you might just entice a pretty woman to join you for a nooner.
Your message sparked a story a friend told me. We were walking and saw a sign for the bar. She stated that bar is for women because very handsome men would serve you drinks and talk with you. I guess like a juicy bar for women. The guys are like Korean Idols (which means like a celebrity). Well she went on to say that there are also room salons for women too where you rent a room and a very handsome man (men) serves you drinks and food. She told me that most women are very overwhelmed and too embarrassed by the guy and the whole situation. So most of the time the hired guy in the room is just having the most fun just teasing the girls and making them blush. BUT when the women who themselves work at room salons or juicy bars go to these women-oriented room salons they literally tear apart the hired men and humiliate the guy making him do all sorts of demeaning stuff. This was very funny because my friend was saying the last part with a very large evil smile and wide daydreaming eyes.
[QUOTE=Ggaribaldi; 1156849]Hi guys,
My girl-friend and me enjoyed very much reading about your experiences of the nightlife in South Korea (thanks especially to TurtlePower.).
We will be in SK in July for the first time and we are looking for some nice entertainment in stripclubs, brothels or massage salons. Don't get me wrong its far away of beeing a sex tourism holiday (like we had it in Thailand.) BUT we would very much enjoy some erotic opportunities. After doing some research and reading we are getting the impression that its not thaaat simple, so some questions arose:
1. Is it difficult for a couple to get a girl with you for a reasonable price?
2. I read that a lot of Russian girls are working as prostitutes in SK. Is that true and could anyone recommend a place?
3. Do massage offer erotic massages for women / couples as well?
4. What about striptease clubs? They do not seem to be that common?
5. We very much enjoyed the girls in Thailand so thailandian girls would be fine as well.
6. Are there districts where foreigners are really welcomed?
7. And the 1000k question: Is there a facility that by any chance combines striptease, prostitition AND accomodation? That would be lovely.
Best,
Gg[/QUOTE]
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Sounds they'll trying to scam / squeeze you. Seems very expensive. I thought it would be cheaper outside of Seoul.
I couldn't imagine it would be that expensive. You'd probably be able to wine and dine a random normal hot Korean woman off the street for less than 300, 000won.
But who am I to talk,"I Miss Millenium"'s post just made me feel like a poor cheap-ass : (
I need to get a better paying job.
[QUOTE=I Miss Millenium; 1158065]Sorry to disrupt forum etiquette like this, but "other areas" thread doesn't seem to get much traffic: Anyways, I'm in Ulsan, and I found a "foreigner's bar" called las vegas full of filipina chicks (many of them very hot). Reading the forum, my understanding is that there would be a barfine system (150K) , but I had a strange experience last week:
At Las Vegas Wed night, about 15 girls (assumingly all filipinas).7's & 8's all around. One of them caught my eye (Rachel) , so I bought her a drink. I asked if she would join me at my hotel for an hour. First she said she wasn't allowed to leave, but after some convincing she said she needed to ask her boss, and came back asking 400K won. This sounded pretty outrageous, so I countered with 250K won (still seemed quite high for Korea, but I was really digging this girl). She went away again and came back with her boss who wanted 300K won, and she wanted it all there on the spot. I told her I would pay 150K won bar fine and give the girl 150K, but she wouldn't budge. Furthermore, it was almost 2am and the place was devoid of customers. The girl was acting all interested and asked for my phone number to meet later, but the whole thing seemed kinda sketchy. I just had the feeling I would pay the 300K and then the girl would BS or try to upsell once we got to my hotel. Anyways, I just bailed (and girl didn't ever call). Can someone explain what was going on? Is this normal in Korea? This was my first (attempted) mongering in Korea outside of Itaewan, but I'm in Ulsan for a while and would really like to get some action specifically from Filipina girls. Any thoughts? [/QUOTE]
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That. That's fucking brilliant.
[QUOTE=I Miss Millenium;1158058]She did for me (quite well, in fact). YMMV. I did negotiate for it up front. I actually keep some porn videos (AR, deepthroat, etc) on my phone that I sometimes show to providers up front (very helpful in cases of language barriers, and typically goes over pretty well). Has served me quite well in my world travels, I would recommend the strategy in general.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=I Miss Millenium; 1158065]Sorry to disrupt forum etiquette like this, but "other areas" thread doesn't seem to get much traffic: Anyways, I'm in Ulsan, and I found a "foreigner's bar" called las vegas full of filipina chicks (many of them very hot). Reading the forum, my understanding is that there would be a barfine system (150K) , but I had a strange experience last week:
At Las Vegas Wed night, about 15 girls (assumingly all filipinas).7's & 8's all around. One of them caught my eye (Rachel) , so I bought her a drink. I asked if she would join me at my hotel for an hour. First she said she wasn't allowed to leave, but after some convincing she said she needed to ask her boss, and came back asking 400K won. This sounded pretty outrageous, so I countered with 250K won (still seemed quite high for Korea, but I was really digging this girl). She went away again and came back with her boss who wanted 300K won, and she wanted it all there on the spot. I told her I would pay 150K won bar fine and give the girl 150K, but she wouldn't budge. Furthermore, it was almost 2am and the place was devoid of customers. The girl was acting all interested and asked for my phone number to meet later, but the whole thing seemed kinda sketchy. I just had the feeling I would pay the 300K and then the girl would BS or try to upsell once we got to my hotel. Anyways, I just bailed (and girl didn't ever call). Can someone explain what was going on? Is this normal in Korea? This was my first (attempted) mongering in Korea outside of Itaewan, but I'm in Ulsan for a while and would really like to get some action specifically from Filipina girls. Any thoughts? [/QUOTE]Dude, she's not a freelancer. Who do you think her "boss" is?
Korean mafioso. She might be lucky to get half of 300K. I'd bet a third or less.
This is what's meant by "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url]". She may have been actually trying to "freelance" by asking for you number for later, but you'd better bet she was probably being very discreet about it.
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[QUOTE=Turtle Power; 1158097]That's an awesome gf you have.
I've never seen a massage place for couples. But here is a link to a Google Translate page to ask "Do you accept couples?" It'll also give you an idea of what characters to look for if your sign searching.
[url]http://translate.google.com/[/url]
#ko|en|%EC%BB%A4%ED%94%8C%EC%9C%BC%EB%A1%9C%20%ED%95%A0%EC%88%98%EC%9E%88%EC%96%before%EC%9A%94%3F%0A.
Probably the most foreigner friendly area is Itaewon just because there are so many of them there. Motels (everywhere) are very cheap during the day if you state that you just need to "rest" which means a 3-4 hours and you can get amazing room for just $25. So you might just entice a pretty woman to join you for a nooner.
Your message sparked a story a friend told me. We were walking and saw a sign for the bar. She stated that bar is for women because very handsome men would serve you drinks and talk with you. I guess like a juicy bar for women. The guys are like Korean Idols (which means like a celebrity). Well she went on to say that there are also room salons for women too where you rent a room and a very handsome man (men) serves you drinks and food. She told me that most women are very overwhelmed and too embarrassed by the guy and the whole situation. So most of the time the hired guy in the room is just having the most fun just teasing the girls and making them blush. BUT when the women who themselves work at room salons or juicy bars go to these women-oriented room salons they literally tear apart the hired men and humiliate the guy making him do all sorts of demeaning stuff. This was very funny because my friend was saying the last part with a very large evil smile and wide daydreaming eyes. [/QUOTE]There are many male room salons for Korean women in Gangnam. Their existence is no secret.
Wealthy adjummas come there looking for young boys with washboard abs, and take them to a love motel where they have to strip and do sexy dances for them and then do the dirty deed. This would be an attractive side job, but when I asked some Koreans about whether the guy has a choice whether to go or not to go with a female client, I was told you have no choice and have to go with whatever dirty old bat chooses you.
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Info on a CL provider
Does anyone have info on a CL massage provider called Allee Runte. On some forum (forgot which one) there was a comment that such a provider was really a tranny. I am more then willing to TOFTT, but if she is really a he, then I would pass. Her pics look good, so if nothing comes back on he, are then the appointment is on.
Thanks in advance for any input.
Frank M.
PS I did return to the massage establishment that I reported on before with EXCELLENT results. She far exceeded my high expectations. It pays to be nice, tip well and to be a repeat customer.
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Field report
Yesterday I finally arrived in Seoul with a serious case of blue balls. Decided that I would go a bit off the beaten path and try some new places I didn't read about in the forum. Initially I had planned to hit Kangnam around 4pm to beat the office workers but traffic in Seoul was a ***** (as always) and I ended up there around 6. 30pm.
1. Mol-Di-Ba Anma (name only in Korean, this is how it would be read)
Walked from Yeoksam Station towards Seollung Station (I think). Around Bang Bang Plaza I turned into a side street an you could see a very stylish black cubicle at the end of it, calling itself Mol-Di-Ba (guess its supposed to mean 'Moldiva')
Way greeted by Mamasan and several guys. One of them let me to a room and I was welcomed by Ji-Yeon. She is about 1, 60m. Face is an 8. Body only a 6 (A cups and no ass, tiny belly). The way she washed me reminded me of the way, a mom would wash her kids: Very efficient, not caring whether you like it or not. My forebrain was greeted with a few rough rubs. I tried to touch her, but she didn't really encourage it. There was no kissing at all, which was fine with me because she is a smoker.
After the shower followed the B2B massage, to which she added a little big of fake moaning. Here I wished her tits would have been bigger, because it actually felt kind of nice. Then she started a BBBJ and Halleluja, she knew how to give a blowjob. No hands, just the mouth, great tongue action. After a while she stops, washes down the slippery stuff and we continue on the bed. Again, great BBBJ and also 69. When I started to lick her, the fake moaning changed to a genuine moaning and I could feel her clit swelling. When I started to DATY seriously she stopped sucking and just enjoyed it for a while. We then proceeded with cowgirl, and several other positions until I blew my load in missionary.
No cuddling afterwards, instead she instantly took a shower and lay then besides me to smoke (though she first asked if its ok). We talked for a while about this and that. I tried to convince her to teach me how to say 'blowjob' and stuff in Korean but she seriously told me that she didn't know how to say that and that I should not use this kind of language anyway, LOL. When the phone rang she gave me a last shower, helped me dress and hugged me.
Price: 190. 000 W.
I give the performance a C, no GFE, quite professional but the BJ helped a lot.
According to Ji-Yeon the Anma is foreigner friendly. I have a business card with a map and a number. As soon as I manage to pay the subscription (will be back in Europe on Thursday) I can PM you details.
2. Paradise Massage (again, only written in Korean)
After the Anma I decided to gamble a bit and went to the 7 Luck Casino. Started with 100. 000W and told myself: 'As soon as you have enough winnings for a BJ, you will stop. ' After an hour of roulette I had enough for a BJ by which I told myself: 'As soon as you have won enough for two BJ, you will stop! ' Of course I lost all my winnings, putting me back to square one. Because I had spent far two much time in taxis and subways on that day I decided that it would be nice to get an actual massage instead of a BJ. So I left the Casino, crossed the street and went into the first side street. There I turned left at the second street and walked until I saw a barber pole. Downstairs I was greeted by an older guy which first made me worry, but he assured me that there would be girls as well. After a quick shower I was greeted by a woman. Face was a 6, she was a bit heaver that the average Korean girl but still a nice body. Age about 30 I'the say. But: She gave an excellent massage! Really knew how to get rid of all the knots, asked her to work on my neck for longer than usual which she did. After she had taken care of my back, she removed my shorts and started to rub my dick into battle mode. It was a bit strange because I was still on my belly, so she made me flip on my back and started to get serious. While she gave me a HJ, I fingered her. Unfortunately she never fully removed her clothing. She started to enjoy my treatment and shivered while she never stopped rubbing me. When I started to increase my service she suddenly took one hand and began to finger my ass. I was like WTH? She didn't penetrate, just rubbed the entry and weirdly I enjoyed it. Took me not look to come and I shot my load at her. She giggled and told me that it was so much. Then she cleaned my and left the room, making me think that its over. But no, she returned and started to massage my legs, again excellently. It was so good that by the end of the session I was hard again. She noticed that with a laugh, gave me a few goodbye strokes but then made me put on my clothes.
Price: 80. 000 W.
The performance gets an A. Awesome massage and a very interesting HJ. Personwise she was very nice as well. According to her, foreigners are welcome.
3. VIP massage.
No, this is not the famous VIP massage (at least I think so). This one is about 500 m down the street from the Kangnam Casino (same street, just opposite) at the corner building.
Because the previous lady had left me with a hard one I wanted to get a BJ. But then I got lazy again so I decided to get another massage with happy ending, just to get a comparison to the previous one.
The rooms were nicer than before. I was greeted by Ji-Ah (I think that was her name) , very thin girl, nice ass, A cups. 7 face, cute and quirky personality.
Her massage could not be compared to the one I got at Paradise but I had a great chat with her. She told me about herself (she's a student) , where she would like to travel etc. When she started to stroke my dick, I planned to return the favor and tried to remove her underwear. But she just smiled and said this wasn't allowed by the house. So I rub her through the underwear which she seems to enjoy, because she positions herself better and spreads the legs a bit more. But every time I try to remove that dreaded slip she smiles and says no. I am persistent and tell her that I just would like to return her favor. She replied that I would have to compensate her if I am serious. When I ask her how much she would expect she tells me that it would be up to me. I was almost broke at that point to I didn't take her offer. It took her a bit longer to finish me off, considering that I already had shot my load twice. After I came she washes me and plays a little bit with my dick (giggling and talking to it, LOL). Gave a her tip, because she was a really nice girl.
Price: 80. 000W.
Her massage was crap but the HJ was very nice. She really tried to stretch the experience as long as possible which I really appreciated. Also she was great to talk to.
According to her they service a lot of foreigners.
Good luck, let me know when you have questions.
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From Japan
I'm here for a month or more and curious. But I'm afraid I'll be let down.
After going to soaplands and what not in Japan what can I do that won't terribly disappoint me here? I speak zero Korean and have only been lucky in normal clubs with 7's that happen to speak English.
Also are ya'll really going to do a room salon event? Mid 20's here that's up for it.
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ABC on the hill
Well after 5 years I am officially banned. I had been enjoying the young talent, however things have suddenly taken a turn. The troll mamas an scared away most of her girls, probably by working them ragged. Leaving only 1 worn out 19 year old, who recently tried to commit suicide (bandages around her wrist). Being the shit magnet that I am, she starting texting me on her days off, wanting to meet. Apparently, the troll caught wind of this, and put a stop to that pretty quickly, saying she could not have "feelings" for customers.
Friday evening, I received a cold reception from the mamasan (also because I pay the lowest rate but tip the girl directly). You would think after 5 years of my business she would be more welcoming.
Pretty intense GFE, she even told me she would defy mamsan and meet me next week. She became pretty emotional during the action, and wouldn't let me finish. Mamas an kept called because I exceeded the Friday night time limit, and literally busted in the door to their "apartment". My SP started yelling and crying, saying I was a bad guy, yada yada.
Had to wander down the hill, to finish off with a very accommodating new provider.
WTF was that all about? I have had numerous 3 ways with her fellow SPs, yet she gets Korean wiggy on me. I will admit that I will miss that place. Enjoy but be warned!
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The troll
[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit; 1159899]Well after 5 years I am officially banned. I had been enjoying the young talent, however things have suddenly taken a turn. The troll mamas an scared away most of her girls, probably by working them ragged. Leaving only 1 worn out 19 year old, who recently tried to commit suicide (bandages around her wrist). Being the shit magnet that I am, she starting texting me on her days off, wanting to meet. Apparently, the troll caught wind of this, and put a stop to that pretty quickly, saying she could not have "feelings" for customers.
Friday evening, I received a cold reception from the mamasan (also because I pay the lowest rate but tip the girl directly). You would think after 5 years of my business she would be more welcoming.
Pretty intense GFE, she even told me she would defy mamsan and meet me next week. She became pretty emotional during the action, and wouldn't let me finish. Mamas an kept called because I exceeded the Friday night time limit, and literally busted in the door to their "apartment". My SP started yelling and crying, saying I was a bad guy, yada yada.
Had to wander down the hill, to finish off with a very accommodating new provider.
WTF was that all about? I have had numerous 3 ways with her fellow SPs, yet she gets Korean wiggy on me. I will admit that I will miss that place. Enjoy but be warned! [/QUOTE]Wow, JR, what a story. Personally, that troll mamasan is too much for me to handle. She seems to be bipolar or something; one minute she's yelling at you about the price, and the next minute she's calm and rational. My un-professional opinion, anyway. It's too bad because she seems to have access to some nice, young talent, which is just what the Hill needs, IMHO. Too bad she's mentally ill.
Speaking of young talent, has anyone seen Min Hee, the girl with the nice ass that used to work at Nymph and then VIP? I went to VIP last week early in the morning (5 am) and she wasn't there. Ji Hye was there, but she's starting to look quite ragged; she really should have gotten out of this game years ago. She still has big tits but they're sagging. Oh well, still good for a quick BJ / HJ, I guess.
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CL Massage girl Report
i decided to toftt and make an appointment with the lady advertising a massage on cl in the therapeutic section. (ad below) the hardest part was setting up the appointment via e-mail. she does have a phone and i will call her for a future appointments.
she is thai, around 5'2' and 110-120lbs. dressed, she looks great. naked, she looks even better. her pricing structure was 80k for a massage and 150k for a naked massage and extras. i asked if fs or daty were options but she said no (damn!)
the time with her was excellent. her massage consisted of a full body (front and back) pressure and stretching massage and a full body (front and back) oil massage. the massage was advertised as an hour but it lasted closer to 1. 5 hrs. be forewarned, her pressure massage can be a little painful. she finished wiht a combination hj / bbbj.
while she was naked during the time together, i limited myself to minimal roaming. i do not think she would have stopped me if i wanted to do more, but for the first visit, i wanted to more of a gentleman.
'looking for massage by pretty girl?
i can provide you very relaxful massage service at comfort of your hotel room.
feel free to ask for more details.
outcall massage to hotel only. '
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Recommendations please.
Hi,
Going to a BIZ trip to Seoul end of next week. I'll stay at Ibis located between Seollung station and COEX@DAECHI-Dong.
I am looking for massage parlor (Anma) with full service.
Recommendations are highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance for your comments!
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Trip Report
Late to provide short report for one week stay in Seoul beginning of May. Using the valued information on the Forum made my way to the Itaewon Bar district. Better known as the "hooker hill".
Easiest way to get the is to take taxi, perhaps to a know landmark such as the Hamilton Hotel. With the hotel to your back walk left several blocks until you reach intersection with Donkin Donuts. Cross the street toward Dunkin donut and keep walking. You are there. Short distance further "ahead" and street turn to left you will see small bars.
As you walk by a door it may open and get invited in for some "fun and play". Negotiate your price.
I tried several but the worst was ABC. Crazy mamasan sat with us. What a pain. Then led by the young girl to dirty room across street. I would not repeat that again.
I did have couple of good sessions at Nymph. Easy going and lot of fun.
You will also find "bars" where you get invited to pay for girlie drink. Price is steep so watch your bill as it can add up rather quickly.
Hooker hill is good option for some fast fun but does not compare to action to be had in Thailand or Hong Kong.
Stay safe.
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The Hill, Again
Went to the Hill on this rainy Tuesday.
Went to see Na Na at Texas to inquire about AR and BBBJ. She said 200, I said maybe next time. I want AR but not for 2 large.
Later, I went to see Bean at Bridge. Some have made a post or two about her. Sexy as hell. Big, thick, stumpy legs with a slim torso and wide hips. Not a bubble butt, but still great. She's short and has a pretty face. Her English sounds a lot cuter than most Korean girls, especially cuter. I got FS for 100. Which is a deal if you ask me. She said 150 at first but I talked her down on account of the weather and the time of the month, at the end of the month not many people have money[most get paid on the 1st or 15th].
The service was pretty good. She's really stumpy when she takes off her clothes. But also sexy. Deep throat BJ to the sack, nearly. It was covered but what the hey. Some ball licking. Fake moans, no body kissing, not really GFE. Not really "tight" if you know what I mean, and I'm not average or small by any standard.
The service was good but I "completed" a little too fast on account of the ass I was dealing with. I have a thing for thick girls. I should have fapped before coming. I just didn't really plan ahead.
Wish she gave me a Vitamin C shot at the end like some places I go to. That's a sign of me getting spoiled. In the USA would you ever expect a juice or vitamin see shot after a provider visit. Never!
Will repeat but will prepare more next time.
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Bros,
Is there any consensus on the proper rate for the hill? I've seen people say they've paid from $50. $150 USD here on the board, I've been quoted 60, 000. 150, 000 Won when there myself and usually talk down to 50, 000-80, 000.
The rates don't make a lot of sense to me as you get most of the worn out girls on the hill performing quickies whereas in other areas, even as a foreigner, you can get FS for $40-50 (see my posts about Jinju for instance).
What say ye?
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Prices on the Hill
[QUOTE=Rick Rock; 1161277]Bros,
Is there any consensus on the proper rate for the hill? I've seen people say they've paid from $50. $150 USD here on the board, I've been quoted 60, 000. 150, 000 Won when there myself and usually talk down to 50, 000-80, 000.
The rates don't make a lot of sense to me as you get most of the worn out girls on the hill performing quickies whereas in other areas, even as a foreigner, you can get FS for $40-50 (see my posts about Jinju for instance).
What say ye? [/QUOTE]Ho boy, you're opening a can of worms with this question!
This is something I've often wondered about as well; like you, I've noticed the prices on here vary wildly from one monger to the next. I would say, a lot of it depends on your negotiation skills. I bet (or, assume may be a better word) that a lot of guys pay the first price that the girls ask without even trying to negotioate.
Is it safe to assume that most girls quote 50k for a HJ. 100k for a BJ, and 200k for quickie FS? And we can bargain the price down around 50% for these "activities"? Am I totally off base here?
What say you, Seoul thread? Let the debate begin!
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Gangnam Joints and Others.
I am in Korea with older relatives and didn't want to monger around the RLDs by myself. Although as a gyopo tourist who could speak korean at a fluent elementary level, I could probably have fun. From what I read and heard in Seoul the 588 Cheongnyangni area is still the best. The Yongsan area is winding down as the area is under redevelopment and Miari Texas area is a mixed bag. And Yeongdeungpo is suffering from a brunt of crackdowns. Itaewon's Hooker Hill isn't really a RLD since it's mostly juicy bars and street walkers, locals don't really go there as Koreans are and always will be xenophobes. For Koreans, it appears like they have moved on from RLDs and have Americanized. That means the action has become mostly costly, and operate through escort services and massage parlors and room salons. All of the internet sites that show this information are in Korean and as someone who can't really type or read Korean all that well, I can't work myself searching on Daum and Naver. Mongering will become harder and harder for us English speakers going forward.
So I did what people who don't need FS (out of convenience or fear of STD) went to the Gangnam Bang Bang Junction area. For those looking for a GFE rub with HE, there's plenty to try. If one place doesn't accept foreigners (waygukins) try the next one. With so many choices in one area, you can't miss.
To get there take the #3 line to Yangjae station and exit #3 (look at the map and head towards Bang Bang Junction (Sa-guh-ri). This is a major intersection and you will see the Prudential Building, a Starbucks, a Dell store and a huge clothing store called Bang Bang. You can also take the #2 line to Gangnam station, exit I think #6 and head towards Yangjae Station, look at street signs, can't miss it.
Head in the direction of the clothing store and you will find Cool and Raining Man. You enter through the place that is a car wash and you will see a sign directing you to either place. Go a little further and you will find Angel and in an upper floor you'll see a legitimate looking massage place, that prolly has a shady side. Cross the street you will see Belle and in the building next to Belle you will see another massage place called 1/2 Massage I think. Head in the other direction of the intersection and you'll see a huge massage place that looks like a love motel, called Rain Massage I think?
The HJ joints (which the attendant referred to as "soft-touch") never have barber poles, don't even advertise as massage sometimes but the giveaway is that it's named with exotic words and as shops that normally don't say anything else (Cool, Angel, Belle, Raining Man, Ivy, VIP, Cleopatra). They operate primarily though appointments but go there before 5PM on a weekday or weekend and they should squeeze you in. You know you are at one when you have to buzz to get in or be denied entrance. Cool was 75, 000 won. Which I think is the most expensive because they have the prettiest girls I think.
I think if you act like you've been there and know what you are doing and know some korean, likely you will have success getting in. You take off your shoes, change into slippers, go into a room, change into a robe, take a shower and buzz the attendant. Then you wait a few minutes, then chat with the girl, get a short massage, roam your hands all around, get your happy ending and a vitac500 or juice. Like with everything in life YMMV. Sometimes the girl may stay fully clothed, but usually will at least be topless, some places fully nude with a short BBBJ. If the girl likes you, you should be able to touch everywhere, if not then you may face resistance. These places are tolerated by the authorities because they don't involve G2G contact.
Korean girls who work at these places have doll faces, and even girls with implants are still relatively small but you may find a thicker girl with awesome naturals. Koreans are bony in the rear unlike the ladies of Japan who typically have some back. Don't believe the age they tell you as K-Girls age very slowly and 28 year old girl can very well pass as a 22 year old. If you add 5 to the age that you think they are on first glance, you are probably right.
As for barber shop pole places. They are not the same as An-Mas and shouldn't be referred to as such. Barber poles attached to a Sauna, are likely legit and usually involve hair cutting and massages given in a public bath or jimjilbang. Barber poles pointing to a location in the basement or upstairs is probably the ones you need for the good stuff esp if they are still open past 10pm. Places on the ground floor usually cut hair although may have a secret room attached for additional services if the outside windows are frosted. If you aren't picky I think these are good places to relax for 40, 000 to 80, 000 won. Barber poles that spin around a little slowly and says stuff on it are for sports massage places. They tend to cost more but offer better services. If it spins real slow and has a picture of a woman, they are beauty salons that only cut hair.
Actual An-Ma places (soapy massage joints with FS) are not that easy to find but are around. But be fearful of crackdowns and shelling out over 100, 000 and often 180, 000 won for a girl that may not be all that hot or friendly may not be the best. Locals probably frequent places where they possibly make reservations in advance for girls they know are good.
I haven't been inside a Love Motel, but I guess they operate through street girls around the places and through call girl services. I imagine business cards inside?
Everyone's dream is to be able to go to a high end room salon and take a girl for 2cha afterwards. But who has that kind of dough, unless it's on the company card. Noraebangs and DVD bangs are sometimes a poor man's room salon in disguise, but when getting a helper don't expect a stunner.
Classified ads and business cards I imagine are no different than in the states. Probably an agency and you never get the girl pictured. Becoming a more first world, wealthy nation seems to mean that you become more and more like the USA Things become harder, more costly and less and less accessible to those are not in the know. There is always Thailand and the Phillipines which should be good for a few decades.
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Imho
[QUOTE=Ezinho; 1161285]Ho boy, you're opening a can of worms with this question!
This is something I've often wondered about as well; like you, I've noticed the prices on here vary wildly from one monger to the next. I would say, a lot of it depends on your negotiation skills. I bet (or, assume may be a better word) that a lot of guys pay the first price that the girls ask without even trying to negotioate.
Is it safe to assume that most girls quote 50k for a HJ. 100k for a BJ, and 200k for quickie FS? And we can bargain the price down around 50% for these "activities"? Am I totally off base here?
What say you, Seoul thread? Let the debate begin! [/QUOTE]It depends on the girl and other factors. For instance, the big girls on the top of the hill don't charge much. Some of the more talented providers on the hill will charge a lot because they can get away with it. Also it depends on the night. Are they in a bad mood? Is business slow? Do they need to pay bills? Do you look wealthy? Are you ugly or attractive? What race are you? Etc. Etc. It really all just depends on a lot of factors. Most important is the tier of girl you're dealing with. You can get a FS for practically nothing, but with who? Think on that.
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Cool
In response to the person below me that posted all that gangnam places in the bang bang area.
I won't recommend going to cool if your standards are really high. The quality of women right now is a little low compared to before. I would wait until the summer season. I've seen about 7 of the girls there. 2 were okay but not spectacular. I know the employees and they told me they showed me the best so I know there isn't anyone better.
I've been to belle (not recently) but the girls are not great over there. Unless you don't really look at face much. You can find girls in the 5-7. 5 range at belle. I've seen 9s and 10s at cool before.
I went to angel once and walked out after seeing the girl. The place doesn't seem to clean either. Not going there again.
Officetels are where its at these days. You got to know the right ones tho. Plus the girls are at officetels much like the girls at HJ places, are "normal" college-aged students working, as opposed to massage parlors, where full time workers make a living. I am done with massage parlors and room salons for the time being. If you can afford the jumos and ten pro's go for it, but I would stay away from the lower class ones.
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[QUOTE=Dodgers55;1161432]I haven't been inside a Love Motel, but I guess they operate through street girls around the places and through call girl services. I imagine business cards inside?[/QUOTE]No. Love Hotels don't operate that way. You don't go there and hope to score something with flyers and the like just laying around. You're supposed to line something up first (p4p from internet / newspapers / wherever or freebies found at a club) , THEN check-in to the hotel. The hotel is the last piece of the puzzle, not the first.
Love Hotels are not only for trysts anymore. They are the cheapest and most bang-for-your-buck when it comes to travel accommodation in Korea. Compare W50, 000 for a Love Hotel with jacuzzi, large screen TV, computer, internet, maybe even a Wii or PS3 to a regular W250, 000 at Lotte which gives you none of that.
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Dodgers55 hearsay and imagination
To put what I take to be the point of Coitus' message more bluntly: no one is interested in what you've read, heard or imagined. The three words that appear with depressing frequency in your "report". Check back in when you've got some actual intel based on genuine experience, grasshopper.
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[QUOTE=Dodgers55;1161432]I am in Korea with older relatives and didn't want to monger around the RLDs by myself. Although as a gyopo tourist who could speak korean at a fluent elementary level, I could probably have fun. From what I read and heard in Seoul the 588 Cheongnyangni area is still the best. The Yongsan area is winding down as the area is under redevelopment and Miari Texas area is a mixed bag. And Yeongdeungpo is suffering from a brunt of crackdowns. Itaewon's Hooker Hill isn't really a RLD since it's mostly juicy bars and street walkers, locals don't really go there as Koreans are and always will be xenophobes. For Koreans, it appears like they have moved on from RLDs and have Americanized. That means the action has become mostly costly, and operate through escort services and massage parlors and room salons. All of the internet sites that show this information are in Korean and as someone who can't really type or read Korean all that well, I can't work myself searching on Daum and Naver. Mongering will become harder and harder for us English speakers going forward.[/QUOTE]RLDs are still in business and is not going anywhere despite the recent protest from the hookers LOL. I suggest you try Miari at Gireum Station as its still the biggest RLD I've been to in Korea. I would put the estimate at over 300 girls to choose from as there are winding pathways like a maze full of stores to choose from and I find the bang for buck to be the best there as they allow for little extras like talking with the girls (only with 2 or more people) and drinking beers with them while getting a HJ and what they call a mulaebangak (like traditional water wheel) where you get a short BJ from each of the girls that are with you (so the more people, the more girls there are) , before going to do the deed. All for 70 bucks. Other RLDs are only about doing the deed and that might work for some, but I feel that it leaves me more satisfied enjoying myself a little bit and getting to know the girl before doing it. But I admit the A row girls at 588 are usually of better quality (although you can find equally hot ones at miari. Might have to do a little searching though) but a much worse service since they know they are hot, and you are only really paying for their looks. Nothing a little tip won't fix though. Goes a long way.
Or else there are so many other establishments you can hit up besides the RLDs. Personally prefer what I like to call sex motels where they have their own selection of girls. A good one close to the Yeoksam station, next to the three big anmas there. Can't remember the name now sorry. Maybe next time I'm there I can provide a detailed report.
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Dodgers 55's report is quite accurate
I find them accurate within reasonable limits.
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Skip Everything Else. Must Try S-Top
[QUOTE=Dodgers55; 1161432]I am in Korea with older relatives and didn't want to monger around the RLDs by myself. Although as a gyopo tourist who could speak korean at a fluent elementary level, I could probably have fun. From what I read and heard in Seoul the 588 Cheongnyangni area is still the best. The Yongsan area is winding down as the area is under redevelopment and Miari Texas area is a mixed bag. And Yeongdeungpo is suffering from a brunt of crackdowns. Itaewon's Hooker Hill isn't really a RLD since it's mostly juicy bars and street walkers, locals don't really go there as Koreans are and always will be xenophobes. For Koreans, it appears like they have moved on from RLDs and have Americanized. That means the action has become mostly costly, and operate through escort services and massage parlors and room salons. All of the internet sites that show this information are in Korean and as someone who can't really type or read Korean all that well, I can't work myself searching on Daum and Naver. Mongering will become harder and harder for us English speakers going forward.
So I did what people who don't need FS (out of convenience or fear of STD) went to the Gangnam Bang Bang Junction area. For those looking for a GFE rub with HE, there's plenty to try. If one place doesn't accept foreigners (waygukins) try the next one. With so many choices in one area, you can't miss.
To get there take the #3 line to Yangjae station and exit #3 (look at the map and head towards Bang Bang Junction (Sa-guh-ri). This is a major intersection and you will see the Prudential Building, a Starbucks, a Dell store and a huge clothing store called Bang Bang. You can also take the #2 line to Gangnam station, exit I think #6 and head towards Yangjae Station, look at street signs, can't miss it.
Head in the direction of the clothing store and you will find Cool and Raining Man. You enter through the place that is a car wash and you will see a sign directing you to either place. Go a little further and you will find Angel and in an upper floor you'll see a legitimate looking massage place, that prolly has a shady side. Cross the street you will see Belle and in the building next to Belle you will see another massage place called 1/2 Massage I think. Head in the other direction of the intersection and you'll see a huge massage place that looks like a love motel, called Rain Massage I think?
The HJ joints (which the attendant referred to as "soft-touch") never have barber poles, don't even advertise as massage sometimes but the giveaway is that it's named with exotic words and as shops that normally don't say anything else (Cool, Angel, Belle, Raining Man, Ivy, VIP, Cleopatra). They operate primarily though appointments but go there before 5PM on a weekday or weekend and they should squeeze you in. You know you are at one when you have to buzz to get in or be denied entrance. Cool was 75, 000 won. Which I think is the most expensive because they have the prettiest girls I think.
I think if you act like you've been there and know what you are doing and know some korean, likely you will have success getting in. You take off your shoes, change into slippers, go into a room, change into a robe, take a shower and buzz the attendant. Then you wait a few minutes, then chat with the girl, get a short massage, roam your hands all around, get your happy ending and a vitac500 or juice. Like with everything in life YMMV. Sometimes the girl may stay fully clothed, but usually will at least be topless, some places fully nude with a short BBBJ. If the girl likes you, you should be able to touch everywhere, if not then you may face resistance. These places are tolerated by the authorities because they don't involve G2G contact.
Korean girls who work at these places have doll faces, and even girls with implants are still relatively small but you may find a thicker girl with awesome naturals. Koreans are bony in the rear unlike the ladies of Japan who typically have some back. Don't believe the age they tell you as K-Girls age very slowly and 28 year old girl can very well pass as a 22 year old. If you add 5 to the age that you think they are on first glance, you are probably right.
As for barber shop pole places. They are not the same as An-Mas and shouldn't be referred to as such. Barber poles attached to a Sauna, are likely legit and usually involve hair cutting and massages given in a public bath or jimjilbang. Barber poles pointing to a location in the basement or upstairs is probably the ones you need for the good stuff esp if they are still open past 10pm. Places on the ground floor usually cut hair although may have a secret room attached for additional services if the outside windows are frosted. If you aren't picky I think these are good places to relax for 40, 000 to 80, 000 won. Barber poles that spin around a little slowly and says stuff on it are for sports massage places. They tend to cost more but offer better services. If it spins real slow and has a picture of a woman, they are beauty salons that only cut hair.
Actual An-Ma places (soapy massage joints with FS) are not that easy to find but are around. But be fearful of crackdowns and shelling out over 100, 000 and often 180, 000 won for a girl that may not be all that hot or friendly may not be the best. Locals probably frequent places where they possibly make reservations in advance for girls they know are good.
I haven't been inside a Love Motel, but I guess they operate through street girls around the places and through call girl services. I imagine business cards inside?
Everyone's dream is to be able to go to a high end room salon and take a girl for 2cha afterwards. But who has that kind of dough, unless it's on the company card. Noraebangs and DVD bangs are sometimes a poor man's room salon in disguise, but when getting a helper don't expect a stunner.
Classified ads and business cards I imagine are no different than in the states. Probably an agency and you never get the girl pictured. Becoming a more first world, wealthy nation seems to mean that you become more and more like the USA Things become harder, more costly and less and less accessible to those are not in the know. There is always Thailand and the Phillipines which should be good for a few decades.[/QUOTE]How to get there:
Tell a cab driver to go to Nonhyun-dong Kyungbok Apt Junction (&44221; &48373; 4&44144; &47532. It is situated on main road and a small alley. Follow the alley and on the left side, there is a building with the sign S-Top. Take the elevator to 3rd or 5th floor. There you. I think they charge around KRW 180, 000 for everything. You can kick back in its lounge as well and if you want, they give you a Thai msg as a compliment.
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Yongsan RLD
[QUOTE=Zarcady;1161757]RLDs are still in business and is not going anywhere despite the recent protest from the hookers LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but what about Yongsan RLD? I walked around there a few nights ago and it looked like a scene out of Mad Maxx; the shops were either shut down, or in some cases, looked like they had been demolished. Anyone know what happened to all the girls that worked there? Have any of them migrated to Itaewon / the Hill?
Hooked up with a cute girl yesterday afternoon, around 5 pm or so, at Tiffany Bar. A new girl for the Hill I think. Brown highlights in hair, nice firm tits, no English, looked late-20s or so. Semi GFE with LFK, I'd recommend.
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[QUOTE=Brian 3232; 1161730]In response to the person below me that posted all that gangnam places in the bang bang area.
I won't recommend going to cool if your standards are really high. The quality of women right now is a little low compared to before. I would wait until the summer season. I've seen about 7 of the girls there. 2 were okay but not spectacular. I know the employees and they told me they showed me the best so I know there isn't anyone better.
I've been to belle (not recently) but the girls are not great over there. Unless you don't really look at face much. You can find girls in the 5-7. 5 range at belle. I've seen 9s and 10s at cool before.
I went to angel once and walked out after seeing the girl. The place doesn't seem to clean either. Not going there again.
Officetels are where its at these days. You got to know the right ones tho. Plus the girls are at officetels much like the girls at HJ places, are "normal" college-aged students working, as opposed to massage parlors, where full time workers make a living. I am done with massage parlors and room salons for the time being. If you can afford the jumos and ten pro's go for it, but I would stay away from the lower class ones.[/QUOTE]Any tips on finding these officetels? And what's a jumo and ten pro?
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Officetels
I'd really like to find out how how to do the officetels.
Heading to clubs in Hongdae tonight but would like backup in case language is an issue.
Also, I speak only a few survival phrases of Korean. Any tips or good normal clubs to meet girls? I'm in 20s and take care of myself.
1 more thing. Ran out of condoms while in Europe and forgot to buy. Where can I buy normal sized ones here?
Thanks!
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Back from Korea but I'm going back again next month.
First of all, Zacardy. Could you find the information on sex motels? Or even how to find them? Also an updated report on RLD would be great too and I'd so appreciat eit.
Preface: I am Korean and can speak it well enough that people don't suspect anything except that I might be an idiot when I use words wrong.
I first stayed in Kangnam and I thought it'd be easy to find some hot Korean girls. Boy, was I wrong. I walked around all around Yeoksam, and I saw a lot of pink signs, but they were for restaurants, dentists, skin clinics, hair salons. Everything but.
Then I saw a couple of places that had "Ma Sa Ji" or Massage but I did not want to waste my time on something that might not be a sure thing. Also saw a Thai Massage place but I have no idea what that means and I wanted a Korean girl.
I picked up those fliers of naked Japanese girls, but they were for officetels and I don't know how I'd even find them even if they gave me an address. I was hoping to find one for chuljang massage (or outcall massage) but nope.
I thought about hitting up a room salon as a last resort, but I'm not that rich.
Finally, I hailed a taxi and asked him to take me to anma. He seemed taken aback, saying I probably didn't need to take a taxi to find one, but.
He took me a long, long way from where I started (near Gangnam Station) and I ended up at a place called Hera Anma for a 3, 000 won taxi ride.
I don't know directions, but if you hail a taxi, I have a feeling he'll know exactly where it is. Reasons follow.
Now. I've been to plenty of AMPs in America, and they are usually shady seedy places.
But what the fuck? I go in and I'm greeted by like five different waiter type guys (young Korean guys with big hair) and by a woman who I guess is the manager, and another woman who is behind a desk.
Menu is:
200, 000 won for 60 minutes.
220, 000 won for 60 minutes with multiple pops.
250, 000 won for 2 girls. 30 minutes each.
30, 000 won for sleepover (?) and 15 minutes of something next morning. Not sure what that meant.
Anyway, they provide you beverages, a locker room, a shower area and everything. But here's the most shocking part.
There are four floors to this place at least, each with at least 10 rooms. I don't know if each room actually has a girl working inside of it, but there must be a lot. Each floor has its own manager and each room is a big bedroom with its own table shower!
WOW. This was like a luxury massage parlor. Or maybe all Korean anmas are like that?
I went a couple of times, and I was on a different floor each time seeing different people. Some people may feel uncomfortable with seeing so many waiters and managers, and they all say "Goodbye" at the end in unison when you leave. Also you'll probably see other Korean customers there as there's a lounge area and stuff and the locker room and the shower area. If you're a shy type of person, you'll be a little shocked but you'll get used to it.
Okay, the girls.
First of all, they provide a mean table shower massage and baby oil bodyrub and fuck if that's what you want. Just like you see in those Japanese soapland videos. Or you can do it on the bed.
They provide BBBJ. And they lick your asshole like crazy. I'm not talking about a kiss or lick or two. I'm talking they lick the shit out of your asshole.
HOWEVER, I left underwhelmed.
1. Despite the BBBJ and crazy rimming, they're pretty mechanical. I didn't even try to DATY or kiss becaues there would be no emotion at all behind it. They don't even hug you while you're banging them. Just stare at the wall.
2. The girls are OK. But not as hot as I expected. In there 20's sure. But I was hoping for some sort of knockout. I think it might actually be easier to find a hotter Korean girl in the USA, though young age is not guaranteed, but age is just a number.
My theory for why that is. My opinion and they could be completely wrong. Chime in with your own opinion.
1. The hot girls probably work in room salons, and even if they go out and have sex with customers, they do not consider themselves prostitutes! I heard a room salon girl tell me she did not like to share the bathwater with prostitutes! Weird! So if a hot girl decides to work in straight up prostitution, I think they either go to Japan or Australia or America because they are embarassed to do it in their own country.
2. The girls are too young to have made enough money maybe? To be perfectly honest, I've never seen a knockout Korean girl in the USA who was in her 20's. But 30 and up, yes. My guess is by then, they've made a ton of money, enough for a buttload of plastic surgery (some girls spend %24100, 000 on face alone) and a boob job.
3. I only went to one anma, and only saw two girls, so I only saw the lackluster crop. Maybe there are actress / model quality girls who really make you feel like their boyfriend but I just went to the wrong place or saw the wrong girls.
Again, I could be wrong.
Second report:
I was in Gwangju and stayed at a motel because it's cheaper. They had tissue boxes with numbers to Dabangs (coffee girls). For 10, 000 won for coffee plus 150, 000 for the whole thing. I called one up and just gave my room number, I guess they knew where I was from caller I'd.
Girl showed up. Not knockout but not ugly. She was young at least. She told me the whole system, and when I tried to negotiate. She told me that I should just see a prostitute instead.
WTF? What's with room salon girls and coffee girls thinking they're different from a prostitute? I don't understand it, but whatever.
Anyway, she asked me if I needed a condom, so. BBFS is available if you are into it.
Also, she was a lot less mechanical than the anma girls. Lot of kissing and hugging and it actually felt like I was having sex with a girl. That was my one experience, so maybe the girl was nice, or maybe they're all like that, I don't know.
Again, I would appreciate more info on the sex motels in Kangnam! Also, which RLDs in Seoul are open.
Else I'm just going to head back down to Gwangju and order dabangs all night.
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Again, if anyone could provide me with information on the RLD districts or sex motels in Seoul and elsewhere, I'd appreciate it.
Such as exactly what is open and what the quality of the girls are.
Also, if anyone is familiar with "full salons" where you get drinks and a girl for 300, 000 won please provide info on those too. I tried to ask a taxi and he had no idea what I was talking about.
Also last request. If anyone knows exactly the room salon process (like obviously you buy drinks, but do you tip the waiter like in a booking club? Do you tip the girl or is that included in the drinks? What prices should I expect going alone? And what price should I expect for takeout?)
Sorry to be a needy idiot, but you already know from my previous report that I will be back to provide further information.
Last funny story. I saw on a blog before coming to Korea that love motels are a good alternative to real hotels as they are nice and cheap. But the write rsaid he suspected that there was a camera in his room.
Now I know what he means. I was fiddling with the computer in my room, then I was messing with my laptop when I got a call from downstairs asking me if Internet was working, if I had a laptop and if that was working, and I was like. WTF.
I guess I can rest assured that it was a 50 year old ajumma manning the desk, so she probably wasn't trying to jack off to hidden cams but.
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Miari
Try miari, supposedly one of the biggest RLD in Seoul. It's right off of line 4 at the Gireum station.
Search these forums for Miari and you will find a lot of information. Should cost you 70K. 100K won for short time (1 pop).
I don't know anything about room salons, kiss bangs, etc. But would love to try a Dabang. But being a white guy (although a youngish, handsome enough one) not sure how that would work out for me.
[QUOTE=Bradley1; 1162520]Again, if anyone could provide me with information on the RLD districts or sex motels in Seoul and elsewhere, I'd appreciate it.
Such as exactly what is open and what the quality of the girls are.
Also, if anyone is familiar with "full salons" where you get drinks and a girl for 300, 000 won please provide info on those too. I tried to ask a taxi and he had no idea what I was talking about.
Also last request. If anyone knows exactly the room salon process (like obviously you buy drinks, but do you tip the waiter like in a booking club? Do you tip the girl or is that included in the drinks?
What prices should I expect going alone? And what price should I expect for takeout?)
Sorry to be a needy idiot, but you already know from my previous report that I will be back to provide further information.
Last funny story. I saw on a blog before coming to Korea that love motels are a good alternative to real hotels as they are nice and cheap. But the write rsaid he suspected that there was a camera in his room.
Now I know what he means. I was fiddling with the computer in my room, then I was messing with my laptop when I got a call from downstairs asking me if Internet was working, if I had a laptop and if that was working, and I was like. WTF.
I guess I can rest assured that it was a 50 year old ajumma manning the desk, so she probably wasn't trying to jack off to hidden cams but. [/QUOTE]
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Regarding officetels
To those asking about officetels, sorry to burst your bubble but if you cannot speak korean, it will be impossible for you to locate and book these services. Officetels work on discreet information (sometimes not so discreet on the way they advertise their services online. But still you need a korean social security number to be able to view these information) and you need to be able to speak korean since you have to book their service. You cannot just turn up to any officetels since first of all, there are millions of officetels and most of them are housed by normal koreans and second of all, these places are pretty busy these days since officetels are the 'trendy' thing these days. Maybe if you have a korean acquaintance, he can help you out. Usually around 130k for 1 hour. 1 pop. There's one in gangnam that does 150k for 1 hour. 2 pops, about 10 girls working. Alot of restrictions though, most places will not allow bareback (if you are into that) and drunk and rowdy people are usually kicked out. Need to keep your manners.
Full Salons are a mix of Buchangdong style hardcore sex establishments plus an added 2cha afterwards. Again, hard to find these places if you speak no korean (taxi drivers will claim to not know these places, unless they are sponsored by an establishment. And only then will take you to the place that will pay him to take you guys there) , but these places are again are the 'thing' these days. 300k for everything, you get wiskey (beware as some places give you fake wiskey, and make sure the bottles are sealed) , girls. 2cha. Some places have special events called the hwangjae (king in korean) , pretty much means threesome. You get what they call lip service in the rooms, drinks, fun and play for as many pops as you want (if you are tired, they will keep sucking your johnson until it goes hard again. Their aim is to drain the guy as much as possible until he is beyond satisfied) , then after this 1st round, you go to 2nd round which is basically 1 on 1 with the girl in a room. Not bad, and definitely good value for a good night out. Some of the bigger places in gangnam have over 100 girls working in one night, will be impossible not to find one that you like.
Zarcady
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1% anma?
Anyone have any info on the 1% anma at bang bang saguri? Apparently the highest class anma establishment in Gangnam. Heard it used to be hella expensive but now the quality dropped down or something. Haven't been but might try it out if anyone has previous experience there
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Zarcady,
What are your thoughts on the quality of the girls at officetels and the full salons?
Are they hot or plain or worse?
The girls I saw in Korea all looked nice with their clothes on, and looked like normal Korean girls. The ones at the anma may have looked a little bit more fashionable, but all of them, when they took their clothes off, was kind of a disappointment.
In America, Korean escorts and massage parlors, it is not hard to find a knockout toned body with nice tits, and while not as easy to find, it is possible to find someone with a face to match their awesome body.
Also, what do you mean by fake whiskey? No alcohol? Or drugs to make you pass out faster?
Sorry for so many questions, but you seem like the guy who has the most knowledge to answer my questions.
Thanks so much in advance.
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Also,
Is anyone interested in going to a room salon? I asked about some Koreans about going by myself, but pretty much everyone in Korea frowned on the idea and shook their heads. However, when you watch Korean movies, it's not uncommon to see just two or three people at a room salon, so that should be acceptable right?
Anyway, here's a quick tabang guide:
1. You call the tabang service. The motel I was at had their number all over the tissue boxes.
2. Tell them what motel, your room number, and what kind of drink you want. Coffee is cheapest (10, 000 won or less).
3. When girl comes, just hang out with her if you want and then ask for 2-cha. I was quoted 150, 000 won each time. Negotiating is not recommended.
4. If you're Korean, and can pass for Korean, BBFS is 99. 9% available. Every girl but one asked me if I used a condom. The one girl who didn't told me that I should always use a condom, and then while doing it asked if I wanted to do it without the condom. Personally, I would use a condom just because more and more Korean men these days are going sex touring in other countries and bringing back STDs.
5. This is just pure speculation, but one girl told me that customers at night are very difficult because they're drunk and can't get off easily. I told her that she should work in the day, and she said that other girls already worked during the day, and like the day better because of more polite customers. This makes me wonder if the girls in the daytime are hotter. Something I will explore further.
Good luck
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Great Responses.
Thanks to all who have replied to my report. I wanted to provide some basis of what is out there in 2011 since there appeared to be just a real heavy focus on Itaewon lately, and provide an avenue for people with more information to refute and add on to what I have stated.
So I think it is pretty confirmed that Yongsan RLD is pretty much dead. But Cheongnyangni A-Row has the best lookers for those who are korean. And we now know that Miari is still hopping all around and has enough girls that a foreigner can score. There has been some bad articles on the internet that Cheongnyangni is being shut down. But I guess it's exaggerating things a bit over some land in the area that's being taken over for expanding the train station. I don't see the need for anyone to make a trip to Yeongdeungpo as it feels a bit sketchy in the area and the Shinsegae dept store is believed to have declared war on the district.
I hate the fact that these officetels are now where the best looking girls are at now. You put too many of the lookers in one area of the spectrum and then the rest gets thinned. The fact that places like Cool and Belle no longer has the quality that it used to, tells the story. I need to come back again as an english teacher or something and try and crack this officetel nut. I love the idea of spending $300 and being treated like a King with girls who are on the very right end of the bell curve.
Having attended a college with lots of koreans, I always found them to be plain looking and not too attractive. But being in Korea there are so many attractive ones. I guess it has to do with the dense population and some very good plastic surgery and make up work. And I also find Koreans in Korea just much cuter by the way they talk and behave. Even the girls who work at the Burger Kings and McDonalds wear massive amounts of makeup and put a lot of emotion into their jobs. The reddish highlighted hair also seems to help.
[QUOTE=Dodgers55; 1161432]I am in Korea with older relatives and didn't want to monger around the RLDs by myself. Although as a gyopo tourist who could speak korean at a fluent elementary level, I could probably have fun. From what I read and heard in Seoul the 588 Cheongnyangni area is still the best. The Yongsan area is winding down as the area is under redevelopment and Miari Texas area is a mixed bag. And Yeongdeungpo is suffering from a brunt of crackdowns. Itaewon's Hooker Hill isn't really a RLD since it's mostly juicy bars and street walkers, locals don't really go there as Koreans are and always will be xenophobes. For Koreans, it appears like they have moved on from RLDs and have Americanized. That means the action has become mostly costly, and operate through escort services and massage parlors and room salons. All of the internet sites that show this information are in Korean and as someone who can't really type or read Korean all that well, I can't work myself searching on Daum and Naver. Mongering will become harder and harder for us English speakers going forward.
So I did what people who don't need FS (out of convenience or fear of STD) went to the Gangnam Bang Bang Junction area. For those looking for a GFE rub with HE, there's plenty to try. If one place doesn't accept foreigners (waygukins) try the next one. With so many choices in one area, you can't miss.
To get there take the #3 line to Yangjae station and exit #3 (look at the map and head towards Bang Bang Junction (Sa-guh-ri). This is a major intersection and you will see the Prudential Building, a Starbucks, a Dell store and a huge clothing store called Bang Bang. You can also take the #2 line to Gangnam station, exit I think #6 and head towards Yangjae Station, look at street signs, can't miss it.
Head in the direction of the clothing store and you will find Cool and Raining Man. You enter through the place that is a car wash and you will see a sign directing you to either place. Go a little further and you will find Angel and in an upper floor you'll see a legitimate looking massage place, that prolly has a shady side. Cross the street you will see Belle and in the building next to Belle you will see another massage place called 1/2 Massage I think. Head in the other direction of the intersection and you'll see a huge massage place that looks like a love motel, called Rain Massage I think?
The HJ joints (which the attendant referred to as "soft-touch") never have barber poles, don't even advertise as massage sometimes but the giveaway is that it's named with exotic words and as shops that normally don't say anything else (Cool, Angel, Belle, Raining Man, Ivy, VIP, Cleopatra). They operate primarily though appointments but go there before 5PM on a weekday or weekend and they should squeeze you in. You know you are at one when you have to buzz to get in or be denied entrance. Cool was 75, 000 won. Which I think is the most expensive because they have the prettiest girls I think.
I think if you act like you've been there and know what you are doing and know some korean, likely you will have success getting in. You take off your shoes, change into slippers, go into a room, change into a robe, take a shower and buzz the attendant. Then you wait a few minutes, then chat with the girl, get a short massage, roam your hands all around, get your happy ending and a vitac500 or juice. Like with everything in life YMMV. Sometimes the girl may stay fully clothed, but usually will at least be topless, some places fully nude with a short BBBJ. If the girl likes you, you should be able to touch everywhere, if not then you may face resistance. These places are tolerated by the authorities because they don't involve G2G contact.
Korean girls who work at these places have doll faces, and even girls with implants are still relatively small but you may find a thicker girl with awesome naturals. Koreans are bony in the rear unlike the ladies of Japan who typically have some back. Don't believe the age they tell you as K-Girls age very slowly and 28 year old girl can very well pass as a 22 year old. If you add 5 to the age that you think they are on first glance, you are probably right.
As for barber shop pole places. They are not the same as An-Mas and shouldn't be referred to as such. Barber poles attached to a Sauna, are likely legit and usually involve hair cutting and massages given in a public bath or jimjilbang. Barber poles pointing to a location in the basement or upstairs is probably the ones you need for the good stuff esp if they are still open past 10pm. Places on the ground floor usually cut hair although may have a secret room attached for additional services if the outside windows are frosted. If you aren't picky I think these are good places to relax for 40, 000 to 80, 000 won. Barber poles that spin around a little slowly and says stuff on it are for sports massage places. They tend to cost more but offer better services. If it spins real slow and has a picture of a woman, they are beauty salons that only cut hair.
Actual An-Ma places (soapy massage joints with FS) are not that easy to find but are around. But be fearful of crackdowns and shelling out over 100, 000 and often 180, 000 won for a girl that may not be all that hot or friendly may not be the best. Locals probably frequent places where they possibly make reservations in advance for girls they know are good.
I haven't been inside a Love Motel, but I guess they operate through street girls around the places and through call girl services. I imagine business cards inside?
Everyone's dream is to be able to go to a high end room salon and take a girl for 2cha afterwards. But who has that kind of dough, unless it's on the company card. Noraebangs and DVD bangs are sometimes a poor man's room salon in disguise, but when getting a helper don't expect a stunner.
Classified ads and business cards I imagine are no different than in the states. Probably an agency and you never get the girl pictured. Becoming a more first world, wealthy nation seems to mean that you become more and more like the USA Things become harder, more costly and less and less accessible to those are not in the know. There is always Thailand and the Phillipines which should be good for a few decades. [/QUOTE]
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Cheonho has some good lookers also
Dodgers: I don't know if you ever tried Cheonho which is line 5/8 (?) behind Emart and next to 2000 outlet. I think the quality is roughly equal to Miari with usually BBFS available. Also you don't usually have to deal with an ajumma.
Question for Bradley: are the dabang coffee shop girls in Gwangju reallly hot and worth 150K? Can you describe what Kpop stars they look like or how young? Are they picky or stuck up in any way?
I have always wondered if I SHOULD take the plunge in Dabangs because I only tried the RLD glass shops before.
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[QUOTE=Enchoo; 1163259]Dodgers: I don't know if you ever tried Cheonho which is line 5/8 (?) behind Emart and next to 2000 outlet. I think the quality is roughly equal to Miari with usually BBFS available. Also you don't usually have to deal with an ajumma.
Question for Bradley: are the dabang coffee shop girls in Gwangju reallly hot and worth 150K? Can you describe what Kpop stars they look like or how young? Are they picky or stuck up in any way?
I have always wondered if I SHOULD take the plunge in Dabangs because I only tried the RLD glass shops before.[/QUOTE]The only basis I have for comparison is my mongering in the USA. In USA, outcall from a Korean girl is hard to find, and when you do find it, it's going to be at least $400 on average.
So is it worth $150? With BBBJ included and the privacy of your room, yes, and for BBFS-lovers, I'm sure it's worth it.
Are they really hot? Let me preface that I have high standards on looks, and to give you an example, I went to a Korean-only anma that was ridiculously posh and the girls I saw there, while fashionable, were in my opinion OK in terms of looks even with their youth and plastic surgery and nice face. Reason is, I want a tight body with nice tits (big or small, doesn't matter, just has to have that nice shape).
In America, there are plenty of Korean working girls with ridiculously nice toned bodies with huge tits. The only problem may be age and / or face, but it's not all that difficult to find girls who have the total package thanks to boards like this and other review web-sites. Sometimes these girls will also be in their mid to late 20's and are former room salon girls from Korea.
So when I went to Korea, I guess what I had in mind was banging girls that looked like actresses or racing girls. Unfortunately, I have yet to find them, but I admit I have not been to the RLD's, so maybe the A-row girls there are that stunning. Or are they only in room salons? What do you think?
Dabang. No, not hot. Pretty? Yes. Look like actresses? No. They look like normal Korean girls, the kind you see just walking around outside.
Again, I have pretty high standards. I'm one of those guys who laughs when I see a post in the American boards where they talk about how hot a girl is and how young she is, when I personally consider her face OK and know she's really in her mid 30's at the minimum.
I will definitely have to check out the RLD's to see what I'm missing in terms of looks.
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Dabang age: Average late 20's, early 30's. At least the ones I seen (at night). I will have to see if hotter girls work during the daytime.
The thing that really throws me off is, I've befriended and even dated some Korean working girls in the US.
One girl and her friends worked in room salons in Korea, and then worked at a room salon in the US before becoming escorts. They were all hot and in their mid to late 20's. They also regularly worked as escorts in Hong Kong and Japan. This is why I have the theory that hot girls won't actually work as straight-up prostitutes in Korea.
Another girl that I thought was hot told me she worked at Miari originally. But at the same time, when I first met her, she had black hair and fair skin and I didn't think she was hot. She then got a tan and blond hair like the rest of the girls in New York, and that's when she actually got hot. And she was 33. So who knows.
Yet a couple girls in the US who were hot and 30 years old. But I suspect they had a lot of plastic surgery done, and I guess they didn't actually get hot until recently.
Maybe age is more important to Korean guys than actual hotness. Not really sure.
On my to do list:
1. Room salon.
2. Full salon.
3. RLD.
4. Daytime tabang
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Also Enchoo, do you know where exactly the RLD is in Jeonju?
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Korean RLD providers in TIME
[url]http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0[/url].29307, 2072487_2276371, 00. Html? Xid=fbshare.
If the girls in Miari got themselves up like this for work, I might be tempted to go over there (it's not very far from where I live) despite the fact that it's now an empty shell of its former self.
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KOREAN RLD Providers in TIME
Ah, here's a better link:
[url]http://search.time.com/results.html?N=0&Nty=1&Ntt=South+Korean+Prostitutes+Protest+Closing+of+Brothels&x=12&y=18&p=0&cmd=tags&srchCat=Full+Archive[/url]
Go to the url and click on the first linked photo essay.
I guess TIME doesn't like hot-linking.
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Hotel Massage
I am traveling to Seoul and Daegu next week. I will be very busy with work during my stay. I have traveled to China many times and it seems most the hotel massage services offer extras.
I assume this is true in Korea. Am I correct?
I have rtff and I haven't seen much discussion on hotel massage services. The reason I ask is because I am not sure I will be able to slip away to the RLDs, unfortunately.
I am not too concerned because I plan on just using the massage services and see where it takes me. Worst case, I will get a nice massage.
I will report my findings in a couple of weeks after my return.
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The saunas at the Koreana and the New Seoul across the street provide happy endings.
[QUOTE=Msukc; 1163448]I am traveling to Seoul and Daegu next week. I will be very busy with work during my stay. I have traveled to China many times and it seems most the hotel massage services offer extras.
I assume this is true in Korea. Am I correct?
I have rtff and I haven't seen much discussion on hotel massage services. The reason I ask is because I am not sure I will be able to slip away to the RLDs, unfortunately.
I am not too concerned because I plan on just using the massage services and see where it takes me. Worst case, I will get a nice massage.
I will report my findings in a couple of weeks after my return. [/QUOTE]
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KimchiWarrior. So this is after a normal 60 minute massage at the Koreana or New Seoul in their spa (whatever floor it is in?). Any idea about the cost and what kind of ladies that work there? After getting nothing more than a simple backrub at Cool and Belle. Would love a real massage followed by the juicing.
Bradley. Agree that K-Girls are often fake with lots of plastic surgery, a little bony and lack of TNA but they make up for it with cuteness, in my opinion. I think all the best do work at officetels and high end room salons, which is why stunners are lacking. In USA the Korean girls have more to offer in body but only because of the eating and lack of exercise (due to driving rather than walking). And plastic surgery on the face just isn't all that common for young people, so seeing them in the light of day, they just don't look good.
HE massages in the US are too much of a hit or miss. Even the shadiest looking AMP often you leave with a massage and nothing more, and could get kicked out for groping. Picking a girl at random from backpage. Com or some escort service is often a big miss with a big hole burning in your pocket. Hate the fact that FS can often cost $500 or more. That's 1/4 of the average man's take home pay. Even with what's often lacking here in Korea. Everything is a steal compared to the US. What you get for $150 or $180 at an anma (provided you get lucky with a hot girl who gives GFE) is just plain unbeatable.
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Crazy night. Went on date with Ubeckistan girl (3rd date-2 months work) Wouldn't come up to motel. Didn't want to waste my cash spent so called outservice SP I know. While waiting this drunk local 25 year old korean girl, came up and starting talking to me in Korean. I scooped her back to the motel ditching my SP. Within 5 minutes BBBJ and and FS. Had to blow in her mouth because to be honest she was fat. Got dressed gave her my number (thinking why didn't her a fake one) , left and jumped on subway. 1 HR ride home realized I left my $2000 Armani suit jacket in motel! Jumped back on train heading back and she actually called more drunk than before. Got my buddy to call (my Korean not that good) and went to Kangnam to meet her to get my jacket. She told me she was at NB, but I asked some Korean teenager walking by to help me find it. However she was actually in a male host bar next door! You shoulda seen the faces of the pretty boy guys when they saw me rushing in and grabbing my jacket. Whata night! Not go mention to hot RS girls walking around after.
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Yes Brad ask the taxi driver for CITY HALL then look across the street
There are some good lookers in the past in Jeonju but lately they have been foreigner (even gyopo) unfriendly. My ex-ATF who used to work in Jeonju no longer returns my text msgs so I have not dropped by and just journey all the way to Busan or Seoul (what a waste of gas)
Has anyone tried Paju Yongjugol Dragon lately? To get there, take the train from Shinchon to Paju then take a local bus to Paju Eup heading west. This was "the bomb RLD!" 5 years ago but last year I saw the place in a state of disrepair. I was wondering if you guys wanted to rent a car to check out all corners of the RLD world in the Seoul area? I think I have time next week if my planned trip with huge discount to Thailand / Phillipines falls through. I found a fare from Daegu for 340, 000 won R / T for 3Nights / 5Days to BKK and another from ICN to Manila for roughly the same price without night / day restrictions.
[QUOTE=Bradley1;1163308]Also Enchoo, do you know where exactly the RLD is in Jeonju?[/QUOTE]
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5-Star Hotes in Seoul
[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior;1163622]The saunas at the Koreana and the New Seoul across the street provide happy endings.[/QUOTE]If you expect the same sort of service from spas / health center / massage parlors located within 5-star hotels as in PRC, just forget. The most health clubs / spas are opened to memberships and do not provide any special services.
Depend on where you stay, but there are a plenty of massage parlors located around hotels in seoul. They are called in korean "an ma si sul so." these MPs have full spa facilties: steam room, hot and cold tubs, showers, lounge etc. If you are first timer, you pay up front at cashier and will be given a locker. Keep your stuff in the locker, take a shower (most provide disposal toothbrush / paste, shaving kit) , kick back in the lounge for a while until they call you. Then you go up to a room, where you will be given a massage by blind massaeur. After that, a girl will come into the room. Some places will skip the massage part. Anyway, if you have never been there, then it is an eye-opening experience. It used to cost around krw 120, 000. Not sure how much they charege now. Again, it all depend on location and level of service.
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Enzoo, I spoke with a friend of mine.
Don't bother with dabangs. While the quality at a RLD may vary, you get a choice, and it is half the price of a dabang. He told me that by missing out on RLD, I pretty much got shafted.
So from my educated opinion. RLD is the best bet based on price, choice, and quality. Unless you want an ass licking, then go to an anma. If you want BBFS, according to my friend, ask before you pay them.
Okay, with that out of the way, can someone explain the exact etiquette for a room salon? I plan on at least going once, and it looks like it's going to be by myself.
1. Please tell me paying etiquette. Who are you supposed to tip and how much? Band / waiter / girl / manager?
2. From searching, approximate cost for everythign including 2-cha ranges from $600-$800. Still accurate?
3. RLD A-Girl vs Room Salon Girls (jum O and lower). Who's hotter?
Thanks so much.
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[QUOTE=Bradley1; 1163680]Enzoo, I spoke with a friend of mine.
Don't bother with dabangs. While the quality at a RLD may vary, you get a choice, and it is half the price of a dabang. He told me that by missing out on RLD, I pretty much got shafted.
So from my educated opinion. RLD is the best bet based on price, choice, and quality. Unless you want an ass licking, then go to an anma. If you want BBFS, according to my friend, ask before you pay them.
Okay, with that out of the way, can someone explain the exact etiquette for a room salon? I plan on at least going once, and it looks like it's going to be by myself.
1. Please tell me paying etiquette. Who are you supposed to tip and how much? Band / waiter / girl / manager?
2. From searching, approximate cost for everythign including 2-cha ranges from $600-$800. Still accurate?
3. RLD A-Girl vs Room Salon Girls (jum O and lower). Who's hotter?
Thanks so much.[/QUOTE]It all depends on the quality of the RS, but true RS prices range as follows:
1. Never tip manager. Band will up the cost about 100 per hour, waiter gets tipped 20-50, girl will cost about 100-200. No need to tip more for anyone.
2. Generally, the fruit and scotch setup will be in the 400-800 range with additional bottles running you another 200-400 each for the cheap stuff. If you add a band and girl to the low range, I suppose you're in the 600-800 range you were talking about.
3. As always, it depends on where you go and even what time you go. Jum-O and up will mean that your girls are rotating so you have the option of paying 4-8 times (meaning 400-800) to lock her in or you're not going to see her for long stretches of time. Madam (or their assistants) might stick around to entertain you, but going alone is going to be a waste for that reason alone. You have the option of getting two girls too for double, but you really need to know where you're going beforehand. All in all, the hottest girls at RS are hotter than A-row RLD and you have a better chance of seeing them in the lineup if you go early, know someone and make it clear you will spend some money.
If you don't like what you see, just leave. (but make sure they don't open the seal on the liquor or your going to pay and stay).
These are current prices for true Jum-O or RS (not the cheaper versions. Dalan-ju-jum or bukchangdong).
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[QUOTE=PolarisRay; 1163675]If you expect the same sort of service from spas / health center / massage parlors located within 5-star hotels as in PRC, just forget. The most health clubs / spas are opened to memberships and do not provide any special services.
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Right, which is why I just specified HE and named a couple of known venues. A guest can use all the facilities of a 5, but few if any of those have extras.
[QUOTE]Depend on where you stay, but there are a plenty of massage parlors located around hotels in seoul. They are called in korean "an ma si sul so."[/QUOTE]
This is misleading, though, because extremely few of these places will accept non-Koreans, esp non-Asians.
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[QUOTE=Dodgers55;1163646]KimchiWarrior. So this is after a normal 60 minute massage at the Koreana or New Seoul in their spa (whatever floor it is in?). Any idea about the cost and what kind of ladies that work there?[/QUOTE]Yes, full massage, then release. 90K KRW; generally the girls are a little older, looks vary all over the lot, very hit or miss.
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Recommendations for Anma at Seolleung Station?
I've been to Cool and Belle and now want to finish off my trip at an anma (leaving Friday) , with some assurance I'd get decent service and a pretty girl for shelling out the 180, 000 won. Still in the American state of mind, I won't expect too much for what amounts to $170. In the dry country all you can get is a 6 minute CBJ or cfs at a strip joint or possibly a incall massage with HE for that kind of money. I've considered a full legit massage with HE, and RLD. But a soapy sounds the best.
I know Seolleung Station is the place to go for anmas and I've gathered some trip reports from last year from and have a couple places in mind to go. But I would greatly appreciate it if anyone can share experiences from a recent visit and rather quickly too.
Let me share my experiences about Cool and Belle in a bit of detail now. Previously only vaguely described it.
Cool. Walked into a carwash entrance by the sign, turned left went downstairs, got buzzed in. This is where foreigners could get turned down if you don't look asian. Paid 75, 000 won to a young korean guy. Got lead to a room, put on a gown, took a shower came back and got buzzed in. The girl was pretty, not much of a body, she clearly lied tho when she was 22. Based on her behavior and looks I figure 26 or 27. She really acted interested when I talked coming from USA. She commutes from a long way to work at Cool, said she's been there a couple of months. After chatting, got a ass massage (no back rub) , she lied next to me and went to work with the gelled HJ. Rushed a bit and wasn't too thrilled when I finished without warning. Haha. Hands are free to roam but I didn't try under panties. Took another shower chatted a bit more got some juice and was on my way. Not much of a GFE, just eh. Worth the money? Yeah I'd say so.
Belle. Walked down a twisty set of stairs, didn't have to buzz they already saw me and let me in. Was greeted by a hot chick, who collected 70, 000 won and sent me to the shower. Same drill. The girl who came in wasn't the same as the greeter, wasn't that hot but really cute. Looked like she could be like 18 or 19, but said 22. 22 must be the default answer when asked about age by these girls. Got a backrub this time, chatted about places to visit around Seoul. She said her home was in gangnam and lived there her whole life. She started looking prettier as time went by. Then flipped by a very light BBBJ. And rubbing. I asked her to go a bit slow as sometimes I go fast she obliged. A bit of lfk and then I finished. Very sensual experience with some roaming, she had baby soft skin. Took a shower, got my vita 500 and was on my way. I tipped her 10, 000 won because she was so sweet.
Both places I went around 3pm, no wait and place was pretty empty. I don't know how things go late at night, prolly long waits and even some refusals. There's no guarantee the girls are hotter at nights too.
People are expecting way too much when criticizing Cool and Belle. You are not going to find KPop looking girls and I don't even think college girls work here. The girls here do it as a profession. The college girls looking for extra income are at the kiss bangs and room salons near the campus (Hongdae, SNU, Yonsei, Ewha, etc).
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[QUOTE=Esq69; 1163893]It all depends on the quality of the RS, but true RS prices range as follows:
1. Never tip manager. Band will up the cost about 100 per hour, waiter gets tipped 20-50, girl will cost about 100-200. No need to tip more for anyone.
2. Generally, the fruit and scotch setup will be in the 400-800 range with additional bottles running you another 200-400 each for the cheap stuff. If you add a band and girl to the low range, I suppose you're in the 600-800 range you were talking about.
3. As always, it depends on where you go and even what time you go. Jum-O and up will mean that your girls are rotating so you have the option of paying 4-8 times (meaning 400-800) to lock her in or you're not going to see her for long stretches of time. Madam (or their assistants) might stick around to entertain you, but going alone is going to be a waste for that reason alone. You have the option of getting two girls too for double, but you really need to know where you're going beforehand. All in all, the hottest girls at RS are hotter than A-row RLD and you have a better chance of seeing them in the lineup if you go early, know someone and make it clear you will spend some money.
If you don't like what you see, just leave. (but make sure they don't open the seal on the liquor or your going to pay and stay).
These are current prices for true Jum-O or RS (not the cheaper versions. Dalan-ju-jum or bukchangdong).[/QUOTE]Thanks Esq, very very informative post.
Relaying a report for my friend who went to a full salon:
Full salon with tips included will set you back 400 per head. He said his girl told him that 10, 000 tip is standard for waiter / manager / motel. So basically just add on 30, 000 won for tip.
He said that it is worth it compared to RLD due to the fact the girl will stick with you for a couple hours and pretend to be your girlfriend, feeding you, hugging you, and seducing you.
He said girls vary, but he said in the lineup, he saw at least a few girls that he considered pretty hot.
Now considering that a full salon is supposed to be "less" quality than a room salon, this really piques my curiousity on what a room salon is like.
Anyway, good luck.
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Acronyms
Anywhere I can find what these acronyms mean? Been searching to no avail.
Most I can guess. Bu RLD?
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[QUOTE=Yarichin; 1164436]Anywhere I can find what these acronyms mean? Been searching to no avail.
Most I can guess. Bu RLD? [/QUOTE]Click on the "Abbreviations" link above, it has most of the acronyms mentioned on this thread. RLD is red light district.
[QUOTE=Dodgers55;1164018] Still in the American state of mind, I won't expect too much for what amounts to $170In the dry country all you can get is a 6 minute CBJ or cfs at a strip joint or possibly a incall massage with HE for that kind of money.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure where you're from in the States, but I was in California earlier this year and the Korean talent that was available off the internet (SF redbook) was better than anything I've seen/banged here in Korea. And the price was similar to what you pay here as well ($160hh/$200hr). Honestly, for that price I banged three different Korean chicks all working out of one apartment building and they gave service us foreigners can only dream about here in-country; BBBJ, AR, DFK, etc. Again, check out the redbook website, there are tons of Korean girls working in the San Francisco/South Bay area.
This may be the only country in the world where it's hookers are better once they leave the country; for most other nationalities, it's the other way around!
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[QUOTE=Ezinho; 1164614]Click on the "Abbreviations" link above, it has most of the acronyms mentioned on this thread. RLD is red light district.
I'm not sure where you're from in the States, but I was in California earlier this year and the Korean talent that was available off the internet (SF redbook) was better than anything I've seen / banged here in Korea. And the price was similar to what you pay here as well ($160hh/$200hr). Honestly, for that price I banged three different Korean chicks all working out of one apartment building and they gave service us foreigners can only dream about here in-country; BBBJ, AR, DFK, etc. Again, check out the redbook website, there are tons of Korean girls working in the San Francisco / South Bay area.
This may be the only country in the world where it's hookers are better once they leave the country; for most other nationalities, it's the other way around! [/QUOTE]Hi Ezinho.
I mean no offense and I know you are a veteran monger in the forum but I'm really interested to know which class of establishments you have tried in Korea to make such a statement. Again, I'm not trying to argue but I definitely think the korean SPs in foreign countries don't hold a candle to the providers in Korea. Personally I haven't tried to providers in America, but I have been to korean only brothels in Australia and I can kind of get a geist of what you are saying; there are some very good looking girls here and I would rate them as the A row girls at 588 but that's that. While at the brothel that I frequent in Australia have consistently beautiful korean girls (so I can get a geist of what you are trying to say) but the talent in Korea has so much more to offer. A girls at 588 are just that. An ace at a RLD, low class establishment, good looking but not fantastic. Which has led to another interesting point. BBBJ, BBFS is available at most places and AR is a normal routine at an Anma. DFK is somewhat dependant on girls but I don't consider any of those an impossibility in Korea.
Which has lead to another question, have you tried the talent that can be had at an officetel? While the talents can vary somewhat but you cannot go wrong in officetels that are situated in Gangnam. 130k for an hour or 150k (plus added mandatory fee for an ace) for an hour with 2 pops with talents that are frankly not found in any RLDs that I've been to is quite a bargain. Of course, you can choose the girl from their website before you make the booking so you know what you are getting (body wise LOL. Face blurred but it never disappoints). Kind of strict and no nonsense place in my opinion but well worth the price to bang girls that are not 10% material but getting there (who has the cash to play around in 10%s anyway.).
Or with fun places, have you tried what the koreans call a gunma? There are the hardcore public room salons too which are worth a visit.
I'm still curious as to how beautiful these korean girls in America that you speak of but I'll post up a picture with an advertisement of some officetel girls and you can tell me if you can definitely find better.
Regards Zarcady
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Sample of Officetel girls. Sorry the quality of these girls aren't that good. I might post up a better advertisement when I get some time but here's a sample anyway.
Hmm. A 2mb file is shortened to12kb. Anyone know how to post a bigger picture?