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Nyc
The whole lesbian duo I really don't mind. I remember riding the 6 train out of Hunts Point watching two Puerto Rican girls suck face. Friends told me the two were a common sight.
Tough thing about New York, and a lot of places, is every time you refuse to meet some modest girl's outrageous demands, some sucker will give her all that and more.
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Is it possible that regionally American Women are different. e.g. californian women are different from texans?
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[QUOTE=Vaquero]The whole lesbian duo I really don't mind. I remember riding the 6 train out of Hunts Point watching two Puerto Rican girls suck face. Friends told me the two were a common sight.
Tough thing about New York, and a lot of places, is every time you refuse to meet some modest girl's outrageous demands, some sucker will give her all that and more.[/QUOTE]
Why so some men get turned on by two women kissing?????
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[QUOTE=Kalel21]Is it possible that regionally American Women are different. e.g. californian women are different from texans?[/QUOTE]
Some would say both yes and no.
Our culture/society bakes alot of what you don't want into the cake already. Like assuming you'll find a intelligent but liberated women in college towns. That I would say its a BIG NO! Far more of the women are going to be intelligent but bitchy and demanding.
In America's ten largest cities I would say that behavior among the women in these cities is roughly the same, because the complaints are the same...
I have no fantasies of going into the rural midwest or mid-sized cities like Minn/St Paul as some people suggest to find somebody, its just a waste of time IMHO. Depending what you want, you'll find something MUCH faster overseas.
If the obesity problem was under control in America I might be worth finding a woman inside the States but frankly, because of the weight issues so many women have, its not worth it because of entitlement problems.
If your under 50 and seek something long term, just forget it, don't waste your time. Save all the money you would otherwise spend on local or women in the US and save it for traveling overseas.
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Turned on?
DJ, I don't know that I get turned on necessarily by two women kissing. But it is kind of fascinating.
The funny part was that most men were on the edge of their seats. Women were horrified. I've dated a few bisexual women. I think they're probably even more focused on themselves sexually than heterosexual women are.
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[quote=mike12]some pet peeves that i keep running into that are prevalent in my neck of the woods:
1. obese or non-obese, non-attractive white girl slicks hair up, wears tight clothes with butt padding and expects the brothas to come running tongues hanging out.
2. ugly heavy black chicks bragging about cheating on their greek boyfriend with an italian guy forgetting they resemble a burnt match.
3. hot black chick who only goes for the jason statham types.
4. controlling puertoriquenas who figure white guys are easy to control and target them because the alternative is too hard to control.
5. lesbian duos playing dicktease games out in public with frustrated guys.
6. overweight chicks with the attitude of jennifer lopez.
7. female store clerks who ignore you, talk to co-workers, talk on phone, and avoid any interaction for whatever stuck-up reason.
8. beautiful young woman who look like they stepped out of oaxaca, guangdong, kiev, or cali, until they open their mouth and spoil it with word up my n***a, n***a whut! nah son, f*** that n***a ya heard! ***** this, n***a that, dats how i be gettin my swerve on, feel me. and no i'm not exaggerating here one bit.
9. headcase dominicanas.[/quote]i think this is a good summary of what prevails in most of the usa.
so i can't get why would some people (thatguy) here advocate for such women.
in usa i have also noticed another phenomena, the attitude of worse-looking girls often can be even worse of the better-looking girls' attitude.
for some reason i have found taking to prettier girls is easier than to ugly ones.
my guess is that in addition to already nasty attitude(which is a norm), the ugly girl realizes that she is actually uglier than others, so she is getting pissed off even more.
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[QUOTE=Vaquero]DJ, I don't know that I get turned on necessarily by two women kissing. But it is kind of fascinating.
The funny part was that most men were on the edge of their seats. Women were horrified. I've dated a few bisexual women. I think they're probably even more focused on themselves sexually than heterosexual women are.[/QUOTE]
No harm, I was just wondering. I kinda though it was cool when I was younger, but now I can just do without it.
I've never dated any Bi-Women, I only knew one that expressed interest in being with a woman and I didn't have a problem with it.
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[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]Mike12 you're not the only one that's complaining about single life in NYC.
I do find Eastern European Woman talking all "ghetto" very interesting. I wonder if they know that intelligent, educated Black Men don't talk like that, at least not in the presence of people we don't know. Even then I don't use that much slang (ebonics) in private.
My boy's girlfriend who's Russian doesn't speak that way. Neither does this Ukrainian brunette I'm trying to "Holla" at.[/QUOTE]
The point I'm trying to make is that talking like that (ghetto, hip-hop) is now the norm. The way we might say what's up man, dude, or fellas is now replaced by the younger generations adaptation of the N word in every sentence, ghetto talk and dumbing down. Immigrant kids pick it up without realizing how disgraceful it sounds and looks. When you hear the same vernacular on 145 street and the Upper East Side, Jamaica Ave and malls in Westchester County thats saying something.
I walk down a Manhattan street every day right after high school lets out and see and hear all kinds of things going on with the charming student body. Various fights and robberies, girls instigating fights, roving kids in the street jumping out at cars, screaming high-school kids, and all this with cops on every street to shepard them along to the subway. Lovely experience for sure. With that being said, I still don't think it was as bad as the eighties. At least now these kids got lap-tops, Ipods, smartphones, and a reasonable awareness of the world around them through the internet and the media.
As far as the lesbian duos, I meant they are drawing attention to themselves, intentionally dick-teasing guys now for fun. Like a game.
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The best defence...
... is a good offence.
Probably also it is a defence mechanism - if she is not open to approaches, then she cannot be rejected.
[QUOTE=Goga Fung]In USA I have also noticed another phenomena, the attitude of worse-looking girls often can be even worse of the better-looking girls' attitude.
For some reason I have found taking to prettier girls is easier than to ugly ones.
My guess is that in addition to already nasty attitude(which is a norm), the ugly girl realizes that she is actually uglier than others, so she is getting pissed off even more.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mike12]As far as the lesbian duos, I meant they are drawing attention to themselves, intentionally dick-teasing guys now for fun. Like a game.[/QUOTE]
Do you mean [i]actual[/i] lesbian duos, or girls who are obviously straight pretending to get it on with other girls? 'Coz if you're talking about actual lesbians (or bi-girls in same sex relationships)...I doubt they give much thought to the men around them when they're pashing the woman they love! Lesbians kiss other women because they're lesbians, not because they're cockteases...
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[QUOTE=Rubber Nursey]Do you mean [i]actual[/i] lesbian duos, or girls who are obviously straight pretending to get it on with other girls? 'Coz if you're talking about actual lesbians (or bi-girls in same sex relationships)...I doubt they give much thought to the men around them when they're pashing the woman they love! Lesbians kiss other women because they're lesbians, not because they're cockteases...[/QUOTE]
I think he means bi-curious/bi-sexual women. Why would real lesbians go to a heterosexual nightclub? News flash they don't, these are women that are bi-curious at best and I fully understand what he's talking about. I've seen women that want to attract attention, its a shame really.
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[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]I think he means bi-curious/bi-sexual women. Why would real lesbians go to a heterosexual nightclub? News flash they don't, these are women that are bi-curious at best and I fully understand what he's talking about. I've seen women that want to attract attention, its a shame really.[/QUOTE]
Ok... but as a bisexual woman myself, if I'm getting it on with a woman in a hetero nightclub, I sure as shit ain't doing it for men's pleasure! I'm doing it for mine! I just found it kind of weird to complain about girls getting passionate in front of men, as though they would ONLY do it to tease. Mostly, they're so carried away in the moment that they don't even realise there's a man in the room. I *have* seen women do that bizarre "I'm pretending to be a lesbian so you guys get a hard-on" crap, but you can generally spot them a mile away (they don't usually kiss or get really intimate. They just rub boobs and dance sexy, etc).
However...I should add that a lot of women who pull that trick are actually trying to promote themselves as 'sexually enlightened' and, perhaps, suggest that they're up for a 2-girl/1-guy threesome. How is that a bad thing? Surely that's a win-win situation for many men! :)
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[QUOTE=Rubber Nursey]Ok... but as a bisexual woman myself, if I'm getting it on with a woman in a hetero nightclub, I sure as shit ain't doing it for men's pleasure! I'm doing it for mine! I just found it kind of weird to complain about girls getting passionate in front of men, as though they would ONLY do it to tease. Mostly, they're so carried away in the moment that they don't even realise there's a man in the room. I *have* seen women do that bizarre "I'm pretending to be a lesbian so you guys get a hard-on" crap, but you can generally spot them a mile away (they don't usually kiss or get really intimate. They just rub boobs and dance sexy, etc).
However...I should add that a lot of women who pull that trick are actually trying to promote themselves as 'sexually enlightened' and, perhaps, suggest that they're up for a 2-girl/1-guy threesome. How is that a bad thing? Surely that's a win-win situation for many men! :)[/QUOTE]
You must live on a different planet Nursery :) I've seen women lock lips (and tongue) before on the dancefloor and all the guys stare, I just roll my eyes. I'm usually in the DJ booth I don't even see it and if I do I ignore it.
That's the only time I find myself in nightclubs these days. Its not for 40somethings, its not even for 30somethings even though they still go. I don't drink so I don't like the bar scene, I'm just kinda stuck. I rely heavily on the internet now.
I have never met any women (besides the one I mentioned) that was openly interested in bi-sexual activities, so the likelihood of that happening is SLIM and NONE.
For me its a loose, loose, - Example
I was making my rounds on the sites I'm on (dating sites) and out of nowhere I get a poke/wink that somebody wants to chat with me, okay... Its some 40ish Flight Attendant, who looks very bit 40. After about 15 mins she asked what my "Special Situation" and I said I live at home with my parents as I wanted to save money. Then she goes on this mini-rant about being an Independent Women and that she couldn't handle me being at home. Before that she said "I wanted alot to be a guy that lives at home". I've become very BLUNT in my description of what I want (no kids or if you do one small child, under 3 and under 35) I don't see how that's "demanding"....lol How could some woman on the wrong side of 40 say some shit like that like she was doing ME a favor by contacting me first to see what kinda "looser" I was?
This is what American Men have to put up with. I didn't ask for her opinion on my living situation, nor did I was I really interested in talking to her. If I was I would have contacted her first.
That's some serious bullshit!
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[QUOTE=Rubber Nursey]Ok... but as a bisexual woman myself, if I'm getting it on with a woman in a hetero nightclub, I sure as shit ain't doing it for men's pleasure! I'm doing it for mine! I just found it kind of weird to complain about girls getting passionate in front of men, as though they would ONLY do it to tease. Mostly, they're so carried away in the moment that they don't even realise there's a man in the room. I *have* seen women do that bizarre "I'm pretending to be a lesbian so you guys get a hard-on" crap, but you can generally spot them a mile away (they don't usually kiss or get really intimate. They just rub boobs and dance sexy, etc).
However...I should add that a lot of women who pull that trick are actually trying to promote themselves as 'sexually enlightened' and, perhaps, suggest that they're up for a 2-girl/1-guy threesome. How is that a bad thing? Surely that's a win-win situation for many men! :)[/QUOTE]
Maybe this is my long-term frustration speaking, but there is another message I perceive when I see two women "getting passionate in front of men" - one of scorn for their audience: "We're hot and sexy, and you can't have any. We'd rather play with each other and leave you losers on the bench."
I have had two "happy hour" experiences in my life - one professional (at Blackbeard's in the DomRep) and one "semi-pro" (in Asuncion, Paraguay, with a woman I'd been with before and her friend that she was partying with before we hooked up that night). Neither one involved any girl-on-girl action, though I would have enjoyed the show if it had come about that way.
Two women getting sexy with each other? I don't even pretend to hope there would be any room for me in the mix, any more than I would hope that a woman I find attractive is going to want anything to do with the likes of me. Unless it's P4$ with the gringo mark-up.
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[QUOTE=Westy]Maybe this is my long-term frustration speaking, but there is another message I perceive when I see two women "getting passionate in front of men" - one of scorn for their audience: "We're hot and sexy, and you can't have any. We'd rather play with each other and leave you losers on the bench."
I have had two "happy hour" experiences in my life - one professional (at Blackbeard's in the DomRep) and one "semi-pro" (in Asuncion, Paraguay, with a woman I'd been with before and her friend that she was partying with before we hooked up that night). Neither one involved any girl-on-girl action, though I would have enjoyed the show if it had come about that way.
Two women getting sexy with each other? I don't even pretend to hope there would be any room for me in the mix, any more than I would hope that a woman I find attractive is going to want anything to do with the likes of me. Unless it's P4$ with the gringo mark-up.[/QUOTE]
Westy that is not long term frustration, that's the new [i]normal[/i].