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[QUOTE=Artisttyp] I guess these are all mysteries of the female gender. When I like somebody I let them know it. That' all I do.
Andy[/QUOTE]
It is only half of equation. The more important she should smell she is not only one. Then her jealocy makes the rest of the work. Nothing mysterious.
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[QUOTE=Lenin]It is only half of equation. The more important she should smell she is not only one. Then her jealocy makes the rest of the work. Nothing mysterious.[/QUOTE]
Again here we go catering to women's odd tastes. *Pretend she isn't the only one and it's no big deal if you don't get laid. That's way too psychotic for me.
All the power to you if it works but that type of flirting doesn't makes sense to me. Maybe in a hooker bar it would but not in real life.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Again here we go catering to women's odd tastes. *Pretend she isn't the only one and it's no big deal if you don't get laid. That's way too psychotic for me.[/QUOTE]
I did not say "pretend". You don't need pretend at all.
Just fuck the woman "A" and women "B" smells it even if you try hide it.
It is the change in your mood, yours satisfaction with your life (after good sex),
few silly commmetns that you tell her, things like this make women "B" smells
that you on the market right now and this makes her jealous.
Right flirt message: By the way, I like you, but I also can enjoy life without you.
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have you guys ever considered that maybe one of many different reasons for aw being a bit harder to approach also stems from the media in america which instills fear in women. america is a much more violent place than anywhere in europe or asia. do you know any european country which has as many publicized women victimizers, of all races and walks of life. we have the famous women killers o. j.. robert blake (baretta). we have the serial [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url]. ted budy. richard ramirez. the socialite. the central park preppie murder. and these are just the most infamous. let alone all the local known [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] each major city infamously has publicized.
you don't see, or hear 1/10th of these types of reports outside of america. do they have [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] and murders in other countries. of course the do. but due to our afluence. we have more people with more tv and with more channels and our news focuses on these violent crimes.
aw are constantly bombarded with messages telling them not to trust men you do not know.
while foreign women don't have this message bombarding them constantly. there fore they are more at ease with a strange man approaching them and striking up a conversation.
i mean this is not the only reason. but it definitely plays into it.
as for "pick up" books/videos thats just guys who have realized there is a market of insecure guys who will buy this material. so you now see more of it. its sort of like the "i'll make you a millionare thru real estate" books/videos.
they sell because of statistics. you use any approach enough time and eventually you are going to score. so the guy who reads the "pick up" info. thinks its because. oh i used their technique and it worked. no. before you wouldn't try. and now you are. so yeah you scored. it wasnt a technique it was purely numbers.
their are no sure fired ways. being a bad boy for this one may not work. but eventually you'll find one who likes the bad boy routine. same as if you just went and said "hello, my name is " and stuck up a conversation. it might not work for one. but will with another.
those are purely money making scemes. just like the books and magazines for women. "how to keep your man" not one say "when he get off work. fuck them. suck his dick, have a meal and a beer ready" but i bet most men would stay much longer than anything those mag's/books say.
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[QUOTE=Lenin]I did not say "pretend". You don't need pretend at all.
Just fuck the woman "A" and women "B" smells it even if you try hide it.
It is the change in your mood, yours satisfaction with your life (after good sex),
few silly commmetns that you tell her, things like this make women "B" smells
that you on the market right now and this makes her jealous.
Right flirt message: By the way, I like you, but I also can enjoy life without you.[/QUOTE]
I will agree you give off a different vibe or even scent when you've just had sex with another woman. Women will wonder if there's something about you, not so much that you might be a hoe, but that you were interesting enough for another woman to give you some.
Depending on where you are and what you want from life, I would agree you don't need tricks you just need to be honest and straight-forward. The key(s) I believe are do you want to just get laid/girlfriends or do you want a wife?
If you want the former then you can spend the money to make yourself look good, smell nice, appear interesting and in-control. As long as you don't say "I sit around all day playing Xbox" then most women will find whatever it is you do interesting (unless you work at Target/Wal-Mart/ToysRus).
If you want the latter, I say go overseas and don't even bother looking here.
Above all be yourself and tell the TRUTH!
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ThatGuy is a Guy?
Once in awhile, you say something that makes me think you're not a woman.
"Those are purely money making scemes. Just like the books and magazines for women. "how to keep your man" not one say "when he get off work. Fuck them. Suck his dick, have a meal and a beer ready" but I bet most men would stay much longer than anything those mag's/books say."
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[quote=thatguy865]have you guys ever considered that maybe one of many different reasons for aw being a bit harder to approach also stems from the media in america which instills fear in women. america is a much more violent place than anywhere in europe or asia. do you know any european country which has as many publicized women victimizers, of all races and walks of life. we have the famous women killers o. j.. robert blake (baretta). we have the serial [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url]. ted budy. richard ramirez. the socialite. the central park preppie murder. and these are just the most infamous. let alone all the local known [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] each major city infamously has publicized.
you don't see, or hear 1/10th of these types of reports outside of america. do they have [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] and murders in other countries. of course the do. but due to our afluence. we have more people with more tv and with more channels and our news focuses on these violent crimes.
aw are constantly bombarded with messages telling them not to trust men you do not know.
while foreign women don't have this message bombarding them constantly. there fore they are more at ease with a strange man approaching them and striking up a conversation.
i mean this is not the only reason. but it definitely plays into it.
as for "pick up" books/videos thats just guys who have realized there is a market of insecure guys who will buy this material. so you now see more of it. its sort of like the "i'll make you a millionare thru real estate" books/videos.
they sell because of statistics. you use any approach enough time and eventually you are going to score. so the guy who reads the "pick up" info. thinks its because. oh i used their technique and it worked. no. before you wouldn't try. and now you are. so yeah you scored. it wasnt a technique it was purely numbers.
their are no sure fired ways. being a bad boy for this one may not work. but eventually you'll find one who likes the bad boy routine. same as if you just went and said "hello, my name is " and stuck up a conversation. it might not work for one. but will with another.
those are purely money making scemes. just like the books and magazines for women. "how to keep your man" not one say "when he get off work. fuck them. suck his dick, have a meal and a beer ready" but i bet most men would stay much longer than anything those mag's/books say.[/quote]
because "cowboy capitalism" is flawed and yammering on about "free markets" is complete utter bs. by ensuring we have a permanent underclass, we don't have it any better than many 3rd world/developing nations. we have squaller as well, its just not seen by many people.
a social-democracy paired with a educated populace results in less wackos in government, far more moderation in governance and far more engaged population, politically. when sweden had a banking crisis much like we have, there wasn't much "free market" screaming i'm sure and they did wrote down the debt, kicked out the management, cleaned up the books and put it back on the market for sale. that's what the fdic should do with banks like citi group... it was okay to tell the uaw to fuck off and have pre-packaged bankruptcy for gm and chrysler, but not the for the banks?
when morons scream we don't have socialism, what the hell do you call rich people screwing the middle and working poor out of their wages and then running to the government for a bail out? the biggest transfer of wealth the world has ever seen (over a trillion dollars).
we don't take mental health seriously, we treat criminals no better than caged animals. american's love their animals so much but have no idea about the cat and puppy factories. they don't even think to look in a shelter where morons buy animals and then mistreat them because we don't have any sort of solidarity/unity or sense of community.
there are fundamental problems with the united states of america, its a banana republic with crumbling infrastructure and the rich believe they have protected themselves with private security forces and gated communities.
if these morons crash the economy again (which is likely) when the fraud inside all the foreclosures is fully uncovered and one or two of the biggest banks go down, they'll be looking to get bailed out once again and the public won't tolerate it, get ready....
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[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]Because "Cowboy Capitalism" is flawed and yammering on about "Free Markets" is complete utter BS. By ensuring we have a permanent underclass, we don't have it any better than many 3rd World/Developing Nations. We have squaller as well, its just not seen by many people.
A Social-Democracy paired with a educated populace results in less wackos in Government, far more moderation in Governance and far more engaged population, politically. When Sweden had a banking crisis much like we have, there wasn't much "Free Market" screaming I'm sure and they did wrote down the debt, kicked out the management, cleaned up the books and put it back on the market for sale. That's what the FDIC should do with banks like Citi Group... It was okay to tell the UAW to fuck off and have pre-packaged Bankruptcy for GM and Chrysler, but not the for the banks?
When morons scream we don't have Socialism, what the hell do you call Rich People screwing the Middle and Working poor out of their wages and then running to the Government for a Bail Out? The biggest transfer of wealth the world has ever seen (over a trillion dollars).
We don't take mental health seriously, we treat criminals no better than caged animals. American's love their animals so much but have no idea about the cat and puppy factories. They don't even think to look in a shelter where morons buy animals and then mistreat them because we don't have any sort of solidarity/unity or sense of community.
There are fundamental problems with the United States of America, its a Banana Republic with crumbling infrastructure and the Rich believe they have protected themselves with private security forces and gated communities.
If these morons crash the economy again (which is likely) when the FRAUD inside all the foreclosures is fully uncovered and one or two of the biggest banks go down, they'll be looking to get bailed out once again and the public won't tolerate it, get ready....[/QUOTE]No wonder you haven't graduated. Your comprehension is terrible. I spoke of violence on women. I don't know what the hell your rant has to do with that.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865] Just like the books and magazines for women. "how to keep your man" not one say "when he get off work. Fuck them. Suck his dick, have a meal and a beer ready" but I bet most men would stay much longer than anything those mag's/books say.[/QUOTE]
Not true. Cosmo is always telling women how to be hotter, how to seduce a man, recommending spicing things up in the bedroom, favourite sex positions, etc. They set up the woman if not as a predator, at least as a seductress. The advice is not as succinct as yours, but basically in the same vein. As opposed to "The Rules" which are a good way for a woman to marry a wussy, or probably grow old as a "good girl" spinster.
I have read a bit of the pick up artist stuff and some of it sounds helpful, but much of it is pretty mechanical and systems oriented and sounds dubious. I think the main take away, which is the same advice we hear here all the time, is "be a man, be confident, and don't be a supplicant."
This also ties in to what Lenin was saying. If you already getting sex, it is easier to get more of it. Because you are confident and can take it or leave it with a particular girl. You will also tend to be more demanding when in a relationship (no matter how short term) - "hey girl, if I'm not getting what I want from you, I will find it elsewhere." It encourages you to push the envelope a bit and probably create a better experience for both of you. Most women don't want to lead things in the bedroom, but many men are too afraid to be demanding.
A master monger on the Russian board always recommends starting a trip out with some P4P, so you will already be on the scoreboard and confident when you start hunting freebies. Of course it is not the same things at all, but it allows you to take the position (and realize for yourself) that you WANT to have a relationship (or one night stand) with HER, but do not NEED her for sex - you can buy that on any street corner for half the cost and hassle. They know that they are a fungible commodity.
One big problem with the pick up artist methods is they seem to rely on being in a target rich, welcoming environment, like a night club. Problem is, guys over a certain age cannot really operate in that environment in America - we are just too out of place. And the girls would not even recognize you as a potential flirter if there is more than a 10 year age gap, they would just think you are creepy. Whereas you can cruise bars and initiatiate conversations with 20-something girls in other cultures.
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hahaha
too funny, i also hate back fat a aw phenomonon
[QUOTE=Vaquero]Now don't get me wrong, I like me some titty, especially the dark nippled variety. And the women in my office know men like titty, because that's the one asset they always advertise with low cut blouses.
But with these women, who are an easy 20 pounds overweight each, I just have a hard time using the word "cleavage."
For them, the phrase "boob crack" will henceforth be used. My boss, who's actually got boobs, often will display a good four or five inches of boob crack.
I am just a man, so I avert my eyes sometimes or I'll be staring right at the boob crack. Despite the fact she wears more makeup than Marcel Marceau, despite the fact that she's an overbearing c#nt, my eyes can be drawn to the mysterious depths of the boob crack.
The other broad has no boobs at all. Tragic. But she still proudly displays her chest and the edges of her bra.[/QUOTE]
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Works for me, every time I go back to the putas interest peaks from regular girls.....
[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]Not true. Cosmo is always telling women how to be hotter, how to seduce a man, recommending spicing things up in the bedroom, favourite sex positions, etc. They set up the woman if not as a predator, at least as a seductress. The advice is not as succinct as yours, but basically in the same vein. As opposed to "The Rules" which are a good way for a woman to marry a wussy, or probably grow old as a "good girl" spinster.
I have read a bit of the pick up artist stuff and some of it sounds helpful, but much of it is pretty mechanical and systems oriented and sounds dubious. I think the main take away, which is the same advice we hear here all the time, is "be a man, be confident, and don't be a supplicant."
This also ties in to what Lenin was saying. If you already getting sex, it is easier to get more of it. Because you are confident and can take it or leave it with a particular girl. You will also tend to be more demanding when in a relationship (no matter how short term) - "hey girl, if I'm not getting what I want from you, I will find it elsewhere." It encourages you to push the envelope a bit and probably create a better experience for both of you. Most women don't want to lead things in the bedroom, but many men are too afraid to be demanding.
A master monger on the Russian board always recommends starting a trip out with some P4P, so you will already be on the scoreboard and confident when you start hunting freebies. Of course it is not the same things at all, but it allows you to take the position (and realize for yourself) that you WANT to have a relationship (or one night stand) with HER, but do not NEED her for sex - you can buy that on any street corner for half the cost and hassle. They know that they are a fungible commodity.
One big problem with the pick up artist methods is they seem to rely on being in a target rich, welcoming environment, like a night club. Problem is, guys over a certain age cannot really operate in that environment in America - we are just too out of place. And the girls would not even recognize you as a potential flirter if there is more than a 10 year age gap, they would just think you are creepy. Whereas you can cruise bars and initiatiate conversations with 20-something girls in other cultures.[/QUOTE]
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Gotta love those Germans! What are the chances, you'll see an ad like this play on American TV? Nada, zip, no way!
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On another point, most Americans would throw a hissy fit seeing a mother breast feeding in public.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865]No wonder you haven't graduated. Your comprehension is terrible. I spoke of violence on women. I don't know what the hell your rant has to do with that.[/QUOTE]
You know FUCK you, I went on a rant, simple and I connected our flawed WAY OF LIFE to American Women acting stupid.
It has nothing to do with my education Flat Head. I've had it with you, banned again.
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[QUOTE=Capt Ajax]Gotta love those Germans! What are the chances, you'll see an ad like this play on American TV? Nada, zip, no way!
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On another point, most Americans would throw a hissy fit seeing a mother breast feeding in public.[/QUOTE]
America is what it is, largely not sure if it can be corrected. The moral MINORITY has a bit too much power.
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aw sickos:
[url]http://www.sacbee.com/2010/10/15/3107290/autopsy-calif-toddler-twins-died.html[/url]
a mother killed her two 3 year old twin girls, this only gets a small peep on the news.