"Of course, there are tons of great younger AW who would love to find a younger guy who's done with 'games.'"
Dude, I want some of whatever you been smoking.
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"Of course, there are tons of great younger AW who would love to find a younger guy who's done with 'games.'"
Dude, I want some of whatever you been smoking.
[QUOTE=Tarius Shinobi]Lisa Raye McCoy from the Ghetto Stripper flick "The Player's Club" married a high ranking diplomat from The Turks & Caicos Islands a few years back, and they are already having problems-and a divorce pending.[/QUOTE]
Master P - "Lisa Raye Woooo"
Of course I love many of the sistas you see in KING but c'mon they want those thugged out Gangsta brothas and Lisa wanted a serious dude and couldn't find it among the Hip Hop generation so she opted for a "real" Diplomat instead of "The Diplomats".
:)
[QUOTE=Dickhead]"Of course, there are tons of great younger AW who would love to find a younger guy who's done with 'games.'"
Dude, I want some of whatever you been smoking.[/QUOTE]
So do I that's some good shit whatever is it...
I wish I could date younger women but my age despite my loooks gets in the way, because I want to be honest and they do ASK, so there you are.
Of course they don't believe me but then reality kicks in and your WRONG dude, they diss me thinking I DO want children and I DO want to get married.
Between 21 and 28 they just aren't "ready". The only "ready" ones at those ages have BAGGAGE (Children), so again there you are.
What you should have said -
"Single Mothers under 30 are more than ready to settle down"
Career women over 35 complain about the lack of available single men, they are fooling themselves. There are plenty of men, if they forget the typical "My Social Equal" (meaning same level of education and income) and just take Joe Shumo off the street with a solid job and career path. He can still be attractive just not loaded down with money. Why can't she be the one that earns the most? How come it has to be the male? This is how American women want it and if Obama gets in they'll get equal pay, you know Federal Law...
See but Americans are generally stupid and American Women aren't above this either.
So its Go East or South or South-East young man....
Western Europe is one of the most expensive places to live and its taxed like no tomorrow compared to the US, but in return your government WORKS, unlike America at present (we'll see because Congress is finally standing up to Big Business "AGAIN" remember FDR...1929) and I can have kids for free (well it comes out of my taxes, I won't notice) and send them to school for nothing out of my pocket (well not nothing but still cheap) and they'll get a better education overall and go to school HALF the time.
In my world view, the glass is half full, not half empty... High taxes don't bother me I'm on the lower end of the tax bracket we don't get hit that hard.
Back to the main topic -
"Where the White Women At????"
In America, I get this overtone of no racial harmony as judged by the AP/Yahoo poll and Troy Davis' ALMOST death for being the victim of typical Southern United States Justice....
Can I finally get away from that?
Yes I can, go to Europe.... Where I'm just "American" wow how novel.
And while being American is a bit novel in Europe especially for African-Americans that aren't in the military and aren't working for some multi-national company, I doubt seriously it would take very long to make an impact socially.
My friend in Norway was telling me that one of the few Black Americans she knew lived in Starvenger and worked for Royal Dutch Shell and as she put it, "had the pick of the litter" when it came to women and dated model types ad nauseam.
I have no "dream" of being able to repeat that feat because I base my success on my local successes and I hover around the 5-6 range in looks with an occasional 7-8.
But most of this is based on my "pool" of talent which is limited by my race, income and location, location, location. Funny how that works in America....
As I said on another forum, I choose to "cheat the system" and like moving a trial out of a place where you won't think your pool of jurors will get you a fair trial, I know taking my show on the road will change things that are normally negative to the positive.
1) I change from being a African-American or Black Man, to being Just an American who happens to be Black and that's more often than not a POSITIVE thing.
2) I wouldn't be living at home
3) I have easy and fairly cheap access to Eastern Europe, while still being able to have a full frontal assault on Western Europe
This project is horribly expensive if I constantly traveled to Europe, so relocation is in the mix and most likely will be the route I go, it makes the most sense. But since I don't have any White Collar experience it will take a "fact finding" mission to gauge my likely sources of income and yeah I should learn the local language but I'm typical American lazy, its English all day, everyday limiting my likely stomping grounds to be -
The Netherlands, Scandinavia, Belgium, The UK and maybe Germany.
If I want to own a car (sure I do!) it will likely be Germany, Belgium , Sweden, Norway or The Netherlands. Denmark has crazy taxes on ownership of a car and like I said the lack of a White Collar job will limit my income and I might not be able to afford one. I would still use public transportation cause its there and its affordable, meaning operating cost of a car is much less than at home.
I'm deadly serious about this, ex-pats can't only be just those with intellectual positions or ex military members that still work for the military in some capacity.
There still jobs that locals don't even want, so I'll be down for those I guess.
Daddy, I would like to roll down to PI and when I do I'll look you up.
Something tells me that Scandinavian women are just as "bad" as american womens. Listen to this from a Norwegian newspaper this morning :
"A man could have his coffee in the wrong throat on his way to work today. At the freeway to the city, over the entrance to the Banehei tunnel in the city Kristiansand, Norway, hang the bad news for Kjell.
KRISTIANSAND : It was certainly not just Kjell that barred the eyes moving into the Banehei tunnel in the morning. On a very large banner, strategically placed over the entrance to the tunnel, hang the following message with large black letters:
"Kjell, I want a divorce - Janne "
So time will show whether this was just a joke, or bloody seriously. If this is the case, it may well be one of history's most heartless ways to bring the divorce message."
Have a nice day :-)
So what, you still got Eastern Europe, I went to Germany last year and ironically found it to be one of the best places in the world to meet EE women, so many refugees and fine looking ones too :). Well worth spending 28 hours on a plane.
Australia, particularly Sydney, is much better than the UK for a black man, they also speak English too, makes the cultural adjustment easy. Europe is a fun novelty but its so different it feels too far away from America at times. Thanks to George Dumbya Bush, Australia is getting heaps of Eastern Euros who would have otherwise migrated to the US.
[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]So what, you still got Eastern Europe, I went to Germany last year and ironically found it to be one of the best places in the world to meet EE women, so many refugees and fine looking ones too :). Well worth spending 28 hours on a plane.
Australia, particularly Sydney, is much better than the UK for a black man, they also speak English too, makes the cultural adjustment easy. Europe is a fun novelty but its so different it feels too far away from America at times. Thanks to George Dumbya Bush, Australia is getting heaps of Eastern Euros who would have otherwise migrated to the US.[/QUOTE]
Forget race for a second....
As I understand it Australia had somebody just like Dubya in office and it ruined the place, the population rebuffed him finally (I forgot his name, don't feel like Googl'ing it) and things are improving.
I think Aus is just a bit too far from home for things like "fact finding" missions. Who knows, I'll consider almost anything...
[quote]Something tells me that Scandinavian women are just as "bad" as american womens. Listen to this from a Norwegian newspaper this morning :
"A man could have his coffee in the wrong throat on his way to work today. At the freeway to the city, over the entrance to the Banehei tunnel in the city Kristiansand, Norway, hang the bad news for Kjell.
KRISTIANSAND : It was certainly not just Kjell that barred the eyes moving into the Banehei tunnel in the morning. On a very large banner, strategically placed over the entrance to the tunnel, hang the following message with large black letters:
"Kjell, I want a divorce - Janne "
So time will show whether this was just a joke, or bloody seriously. If this is the case, it may well be one of history's most heartless ways to bring the divorce message."[/quote]
No place is paradise....
The Australian you seek was (is) John Howard. BTW FDR did not take office until March of 1933.
Plus you only [b]think[/b] you want to own a car. What you really want is to not [b]have to[/b] own a car. Check it out. The feeling of freedom is unbelievable. And if you're going to live in another country, bear in mind that any accident you are in [b]will be[/b] your fault (except maybe in parts of Europe that are too expensive anyway).
Australia is nothing like the US, and Howard was not Dubya. Half the population of Western Sydney probably would be outright denied entrance to the USA. Tony Blair was more a W buttlicker than Howard. Howard was more pro China than anything else and even the new leader is pro China. Over two thirds of Aussies view Bush unfavorably and they did for a long time.
People think Canada is the same country, Canada's leader is a true blue Bush doormat, more conservative than what we had in Australia. Still Canada is nothing like the US either for anyone who has spent time there.
You are right that no place is paradise, not even those Eastern European locales you mentioned. Those places felt far too different for me to live there and make a living. Too many cultural and linguistic barriers in Europe for me. The EU is not very immigration friendly but I keep hearing differing opinions, a German woman told me she had a hard time migrating to Australia, I attempted migrating to Europe and it did not work out well, while Americans and Canadians would have few problems.
[QUOTE=Jelly Donut]I don't know what your circumstances are, but the path to intimacy is always open for guys. If you want to develop a more initmate relationship with a women, that option is not likely to ever be closed to you.
I remember taking a single friend of mine on a cruise while he was in his late 80's - the older AW were all politely hitting on what was one of the few eligible guys on the trip. As you get older, that territory is yours if just hold out a bit longer than the average American male.
Of course, there are tons of great younger AW who would love to find a younger guy who's done with "games" and wants a family and kids. I've seen one over-sexed ex-vet make the transition from 'monger' to, apparently, loyal husband. So it seems like it might work for some guys.
It seems like a hard path to me, but once you've got a AW wife and kids, you probably will not have much time to consider loneliness and other aspects of the human condition. Masks the problem, if nothing else.
What about getting a dog?[/QUOTE]
The path to initmiacy may always be open but the opportunities to find your 3-5 soulmates are more difficult because of mongering. I find myself meeting less and less quality women as time progresses because I am unable to be a genuine nice guy any longer.
First, *****s, gold diggers, and the type of women that 90% of the men on this board come in contact with are bad people of low morals--they lie, cheat, and decieve on daily basis. Not every lady in EE or LA is hooker--most are not, they go to work every day and live on 100-900 dollars a month and simply make do. A hooker has taken the easy way out...like an inner city drug dealer/thug...note every minority in the hood lives an illicit life, most don't. So right off the bat, you are dealing with a person of low intenstinal fortitude and of weak character.
For me, my 200k a year salary and 60K sports car have not done what I think that it would do: give me more access to a higher quality of good women.
Instead, it has attracted swaths of gold diggers and other bad woman. The few good women that I meet I fuck it up because I am unable to tolerate any amount of bullshit. If I say come at 0200 am and they dont I will curse them and pick up the phone and will have one or two chicks at my apartment or hotel within 20 minutes.
Most importantly, I have no respect for women any longer because the vast majority of them are all *****s that I can do whatever I choose to do to them because I have money. And for the one that wont put up with my garbage there are 3 more that will eagerly take my place as long as I pay their flat, give some pocket change, and let them be seen in the passenger seat of my ride.
This is bad. Very bad. I am presently in a downward spiral in my life and may not be able to reverse it because of my behaivor and the women I now surround myself with. I saw a shrink a few times about how fucked up I am and she told me to stop seeing protitutes and exploiting women. I stopped going after four sessions because my articluation of my problems were better than her's were.
If it were not for mongering I would be forced to rely on my looks, wit, and personality for women instead of cheating and just buying them. In America, while I didn't come across as a bum, I never bought women--not that I could.
Now, I am surprised at the shit I do to people and how they keep comming back for more.
One of these days some dude is going to wack me for shitting on his sister. And I will deserve it.
You can't be a true mongerer and have the same level of respect for women that you had before you entered the lifestyle.
I don't engage in p4p too much anymore either, more medium/short term sponsorship.
Just to clarify, I do not physically abuse women;however, I am an asshole, albeit a polite one, to virtually all women now.
Maybe I should get a dog, but if it's a good ***** she will likely leave me too.
[QUOTE=DirkDingy]The path to initmiacy may always be open but the opportunities to find your 3-5 soulmates are more difficult because of mongering. I find myself meeting less and less quality women as time progresses because I am unable to be a genuine nice guy any longer.
First, *****s, gold diggers, and the type of women that 90% of the men on this board come in contact with are bad people of low morals--they lie, cheat, and decieve on daily basis. Not every lady in EE or LA is hooker--most are not, they go to work every day and live on 100-900 dollars a month and simply make do. A hooker has taken the easy way out...like an inner city drug dealer/thug...note every minority in the hood lives an illicit life, most don't. So right off the bat, you are dealing with a person of low intenstinal fortitude and of weak character.
For me, my 200k a year salary and 60K sports car have not done what I think that it would do: give me more access to a higher quality of good women.
Instead, it has attracted swaths of gold diggers and other bad woman. The few good women that I meet I fuck it up because I am unable to tolerate any amount of bullshit. If I say come at 0200 am and they dont I will curse them and pick up the phone and will have one or two chicks at my apartment or hotel within 20 minutes.
Most importantly, I have no respect for women any longer because the vast majority of them are all *****s that I can do whatever I choose to do to them because I have money. And for the one that wont put up with my garbage there are 3 more that will eagerly take my place as long as I pay their flat, give some pocket change, and let them be seen in the passenger seat of my ride.
This is bad. Very bad. I am presently in a downward spiral in my life and may not be able to reverse it because of my behaivor and the women I now surround myself with. I saw a shrink a few times about how fucked up I am and she told me to stop seeing protitutes and exploiting women. I stopped going after four sessions because my articluation of my problems were better than her's were.
If it were not for mongering I would be forced to rely on my looks, wit, and personality for women instead of cheating and just buying them. In America, while I didn't come across as a bum, I never bought women--not that I could.
Now, I am surprised at the shit I do to people and how they keep comming back for more.
One of these days some dude is going to wack me for shitting on his sister. And I will deserve it.
You can't be a true mongerer and have the same level of respect for women that you had before you entered the lifestyle.
I don't engage in p4p too much anymore either, more medium/short term sponsorship.
Just to clarify, I do not physically abuse women;however, I am an asshole, albeit a polite one, to virtually all women now.
Maybe I should get a dog, but if it's a good ***** she will likely leave me too.[/QUOTE]I hear you and can somewhat relate to your problem, although my mongering style is a bit different than yours. Nonetheless, simply meeting (and fucking) too many women whether "free", "paid for" or merely "enticed" through flash cash WILL change your approach to, opinion of and relationships with women.
I am not sure whether or not this must be an inherently negative change, however there is a real danger of becoming callous, lazy, bitter or emotionally cold, not to mention the danger of travelling in circles where virtually all the women you meet are going to be somehow in the game as well.
Solution? Maybe you really DO need to get out of the game, stop playing games with women and stop being played. IMO "playing" and "being played" are cousins and go hand in hand to one degree or another.
Recently I did an analysis for myself noting how much time and money is spent of girls, whether normal freebie type gfs or pros. The results probably only put me in the medium range in terms of expenditure, but the time involved is alarming.
Still, personally I don't see a reason for me to stop playing, I enjoy it too much. I am however certain that all the positive aspects of getting lots of puss are accompanied many negative aspects as well, I just see the positive outweighing the negative by a margin significant enough to warrant continuing. Am not sure if it will always be this way and am equally unsure if I will retrospectively look back and see it as positive, but feel little inclination to change.
In that sense, I am sceptical if any medium to hard-core monger/player could ever really change his ways.
Kjell and Janne are mens names so in this case it's a divorce between 2 men.
[QUOTE=Balluba]Something tells me that Scandinavian women are just as "bad" as american womens. Listen to this from a Norwegian newspaper this morning :
"A man could have his coffee in the wrong throat on his way to work today. At the freeway to the city, over the entrance to the Banehei tunnel in the city Kristiansand, Norway, hang the bad news for Kjell.
KRISTIANSAND : It was certainly not just Kjell that barred the eyes moving into the Banehei tunnel in the morning. On a very large banner, strategically placed over the entrance to the tunnel, hang the following message with large black letters:
"Kjell, I want a divorce - Janne "
So time will show whether this was just a joke, or bloody seriously. If this is the case, it may well be one of history's most heartless ways to bring the divorce message."
Have a nice day :-)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DirkDingy]The path to initmiacy may always be open but the opportunities to find your 3-5 soulmates are more difficult because of mongering. I find myself meeting less and less quality women as time progresses because I am unable to be a genuine nice guy any longer.
First, *****s, gold diggers, and the type of women that 90% of the men on this board come in contact with are bad people of low morals--they lie, cheat, and decieve on daily basis. Not every lady in EE or LA is hooker--most are not, they go to work every day and live on 100-900 dollars a month and simply make do. A hooker has taken the easy way out...like an inner city drug dealer/thug...note every minority in the hood lives an illicit life, most don't. So right off the bat, you are dealing with a person of low intenstinal fortitude and of weak character.
For me, my 200k a year salary and 60K sports car have not done what I think that it would do: give me more access to a higher quality of good women.
Instead, it has attracted swaths of gold diggers and other bad woman. The few good women that I meet I fuck it up because I am unable to tolerate any amount of bullshit. If I say come at 0200 am and they dont I will curse them and pick up the phone and will have one or two chicks at my apartment or hotel within 20 minutes.
Most importantly, I have no respect for women any longer because the vast majority of them are all *****s that I can do whatever I choose to do to them because I have money. And for the one that wont put up with my garbage there are 3 more that will eagerly take my place as long as I pay their flat, give some pocket change, and let them be seen in the passenger seat of my ride.
This is bad. Very bad. I am presently in a downward spiral in my life and may not be able to reverse it because of my behaivor and the women I now surround myself with. I saw a shrink a few times about how fucked up I am and she told me to stop seeing protitutes and exploiting women. I stopped going after four sessions because my articluation of my problems were better than her's were.
If it were not for mongering I would be forced to rely on my looks, wit, and personality for women instead of cheating and just buying them. In America, while I didn't come across as a bum, I never bought women--not that I could.
Now, I am surprised at the shit I do to people and how they keep comming back for more.
One of these days some dude is going to wack me for shitting on his sister. And I will deserve it.
You can't be a true mongerer and have the same level of respect for women that you had before you entered the lifestyle.
I don't engage in p4p too much anymore either, more medium/short term sponsorship.
Just to clarify, I do not physically abuse women;however, I am an asshole, albeit a polite one, to virtually all women now.
Maybe I should get a dog, but if it's a good ***** she will likely leave me too.[/QUOTE]
200k in what currency and in what country?? 200k in London, NYC, Paris, or some other major Western city is pocket change.
Besides the point, women do not fixate solely on money, although it is a factor, no respectable woman is going to date a bum for obvious reasons, a lot of women even those from the third world do not like being "bought". There are a lot of ways trying to buy someone will backfire, especially when a time comes that you don't have the money anymore or someone else tries to buy her affection.
I have an extremely high batting average with dumb ditzy blondes but more with more intelligent and intellectual women, I fall flat, even though I hold a postgraduate level education. There is just a certain kind of person I seem to attract without really doing anything.
Not all Eastern European and Latin American women are gold diggers but they are indeed present.
This would be funny if it did not have some truth in it.
Check out the British DVD series "The Vice".
It's pretty kool!
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]I hear you and can somewhat relate to your problem, although my mongering style is a bit different than yours. Nonetheless, simply meeting (and fucking) too many women whether "free", "paid for" or merely "enticed" through flash cash WILL change your approach to, opinion of and relationships with women.
I am not sure whether or not this must be an inherently negative change, however there is a real danger of becoming callous, lazy, bitter or emotionally cold, not to mention the danger of travelling in circles where virtually all the women you meet are going to be somehow in the game as well.
Solution? Maybe you really DO need to get out of the game, stop playing games with women and stop being played. IMO "playing" and "being played" are cousins and go hand in hand to one degree or another.
Recently I did an analysis for myself noting how much time and money is spent of girls, whether normal freebie type gfs or pros. The results probably only put me in the medium range in terms of expenditure, but the time involved is alarming.
Still, personally I don't see a reason for me to stop playing, I enjoy it too much. I am however certain that all the positive aspects of getting lots of puss are accompanied many negative aspects as well, I just see the positive outweighing the negative by a margin significant enough to warrant continuing. Am not sure if it will always be this way and am equally unsure if I will retrospectively look back and see it as positive, but feel little inclination to change.
In that sense, I am sceptical if any medium to hard-core monger/player could ever really change his ways.[/QUOTE]
Look, I see no problem or longstanding detrimental impacts for the casual sex tourist: the lad who puts in his 45 weeks a year and splits to Bangkok or Panama City for his annual 10-14 day vacation or the man under arms pent up on base heading out for some R&R. Most people on this board—although not on this thread—fall into the category. When this lifestyle starts to corrode you is when you begin to live for the obtaining pussy as cheaply and as effortlessly as possible. Guys who I see at Scott’s Bar on Soi 3 virtually every night whose life revolves around Nana and Soi Cowqboy;or the fellow moving deeper into provincial Moldova who threw a hissy fit because the girl that he was tying to exploit had the nerve to order a fresh juice for $2.50…the sad fact is, I perfectly understand his frustrations and have had many fresh juice moments myself.
***If the reader doesn’t understand the ol’ fresh juice trick then they will be unlikely to get the gist of this post***
Doctor Skank, I tip my hat to you for being able to maintain a healthy mix of regular GFs and WGs.I lost this ability about a year ago. It is important to note that you deal primarily with Russian chicks in Moscow and I deal primarily with Russian chicks in CIS states. Moscow is not Bishkek, and while you may do very well for yourself, it is very difficult to impress Moscow chicks with amount of cash available to us. I believe you speak Russian as well, thus, you attract women as a result of who you are and just the size of your wallet.
What started me down my path to mild misogyny is the flakiness of these women: the not answering the phone, the not showing up as agreed to, the habitual bs stories, and the overall general dishonesty of these women. An AW, as bitchy as she may be, is generally reliable. I have dated tens of AW and have never been stood up by any of them. With 2nd and 3rd world babes I am no longer surprised if they don’t show up and turn their phone off when I call them to inquire about their presence.
This am, I had just finished fucking some Russian chick who was using this very same computer to write to her American fiancé and German boyfriends. Dudes who are trying to be good men to a woman who is playing them like a fiddle; these poor assholes have no clue.
Yea, I’m bitter and jaded…all the “I kiss you hot” sms are a fucking lie; every time I get one my stomach turns. These women take take take from you and lie lie lie to you without any computation or empathy for you.
I had proposed to a Moldovan, she agreed, I spent thousands of bucks on a ring, rearranged my employment situation, put her on all my bank accounts, and you know what happened? When I went to the airport to start our life together she didn’t get on the plane. Didn’t hear shit from her for a month until I get an SMS that said she didn’t love me anymore. Ok, cool, but is that the way to handle the situation?
And this shit just doesn’t happen to me, an Irish lad that I worked with had virtually the same thing happen to him from a Moldovan broad three years ago. He was not a dumb ass sex tourists either, he spoke the language, worked in the FSU for years, and was rather intelligent.
The flakiness of these women is off the charts and I’m sick of it.
I can’t envision an AW doing the shit mentioned above.
So knowing what we know—and being thinking men—how can one not be jaded, cold hearted, and untrusting?
This lifestyle has certainly changed me for the worse and it has changed you too...you may just not know it.
I am disgusted by these women and even more disgusted at myself.
The problem is I just can’t stop…the sitting in the cafes, showing off my $1200 mobile phone and expensive watch, watching the erection in the dveys eyes as she sees my car, the sitting in the night clubs with a bottle of Chivas, a plate of fruit, and being a human sandwich between 2-4 chicks.