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[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1136904]This article is complete bullshit. What they are talking about is this superficial carrie bradshaw world / bubble that the media has created. Only a small population of NY fits into that mold. Hanging at the latest lounge eating overpriced grub hiring personal trainers shopping at whole foods. The rest of us here live like animals and whack of to free craigslist photos.
The funny thing is most of the people into that scene aren't true new yorkers! These are people who moved here in the past ten years since it became a safe police state. They see sex and the city on TV and they come here searching for it OR better yet CREATE IT.
This city is monkey see monkey do. This has been going on for ten years now. If anybody has the brains or money they would leave. Most people are stuck here. Its a vicious cycle to get out of.
If you live in the outeer boroughs like the bronx queens or Brooklyn you might do a little better. Things are a little more kickback but you need to be with your own group or sect ie puerto rican men find women black guys find women in their area asians etc. But when you look at it universally most men will tell you Saturday night is a dud!
Don't believe all these little quirky NYC is so fabulous articles that pop up. They are written by people that have no idea what NYC is. The new TREND is to upsell NYC because so many locals view it as a living hell.
I guess if I shopped at whole foods and had some shmuck buy me dinner a few times a week. Plugged into a huge social network I might think differently but that isn't where most guys here fit in.
Did I mention no smoking in parks and beaches in 2 months? There goes the only pick up line I know " do you have a light?"[/QUOTE]Sounds like a personal problem. N. Y. Has always been pricey to live. If you can't hang then you need to leave.
That article was written by those who can afford to live in New York and the comforts that come with it, like shopping at whole foods. And for a man who can afford to live there. Its the best place in the WORLD for them.
Should you even be in this game called Mongering. If your money is that tight.
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[QUOTE=Member #2041;1136894]If you accept their value judgments. Personally, I might vote for Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I voted for Pattaya as well; that is why I live here. After knowing 80 countries and hundreds of cities I can say that this is definitely the best city for men hands down. My rent is US$150/month and I can walk outside any hour of the day or night and be back in 5 minutes with a 24 hour serving of pussy for US$30.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp;1136904]This article is complete bullshit. What they are talking about is this superficial carrie bradshaw world / bubble that the media has created. Only a small population of NY fits into that mold. Hanging at the latest lounge eating overpriced grub hiring personal trainers shopping at whole foods. The rest of us here live like animals and whack of to free craigslist photos.[/QUOTE]Yeah it was definitely some bullshit. I don't know anyone who has even been to Melbourne, Australia, much less lives there. I don't know many guys who could even afford to buy a bowl of cereal in most of the cities they named. The most affordable ones are Capetown and Bogota. All the other ones are hella expensive. Maybe the article means the best places to go if you are a gold digging woman.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1137029]I voted for Pattaya as well; that is why I live here. After knowing 80 countries and hundreds of cities I can say that this is definitely the best city for men hands down. My rent is US$150/month and I can walk outside any hour of the day or night and be back in 5 minutes with a 24 hour serving of pussy for US$30.[/QUOTE]I must admitt that it doesn't sound too bad; cheap living and plenty of punani. One can already imagine wearing neither shirt nor shoes for months at a time in that kind of reality! LOL.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1136976]Sounds like a personal problem. N. Y. Has always been pricey to live. If you can't hang then you need to leave.
That article was written by those who can afford to live in New York and the comforts that come with it, like shopping at whole foods. And for a man who can afford to live there. Its the best place in the WORLD for them.
Should you even be in this game called Mongering. If your money is that tight. [/QUOTE]Not a big discovery that plenty of money to dispose of makes life sweeter, but that's EVERYWHERE in the world. By any means, what the upper crust can get out of reality means fuck-all to the average guy. In Saudi Arabia sheikhs possess whole harems of women all to themselves, it doesn't mean that the average arab fucker scores as well as the ones born into that level of privilege. If you have a billion in your pocket you might just as well live at the north pole and still you'd thunder "let there be hoe$" and hoe$ would be, no matter what. Look at Dubai; they have a freaking indoor ski resort in the middle of the desert! First time I was there got out the plane at 1:00 am and there were 40 damn degrees celsius, but you can still rock your skis and go down that chilly snowy slope.
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[QUOTE=Littletruths;1137041]Not a big discovery that plenty of money to dispose of makes life sweeter, but that's EVERYWHERE in the world. By any means, what the upper crust can get out of reality means fuck-all to the average guy.[/QUOTE]The day before yesterday I was watching the documentary Inside Job. The hohouse lady was telling how the Wall Street guys would order up hookers for $1000 / hour. One guy even placed an order and told them the girl needed to pick him up in a Lamborghini. But it was cool; wasn't their money they were squandering.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1137029]I voted for Pattaya as well; that is why I live here. After knowing 80 countries and hundreds of cities I can say that this is definitely the best city for men hands down. My rent is US$150/month and I can walk outside any hour of the day or night and be back in 5 minutes with a 24 hour serving of pussy for US$30.[/QUOTE]If pussy is all you want out of life. Then you have a good argument.
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[QUOTE=Littletruths;1137041]Not a big discovery that plenty of money to dispose of makes life sweeter, but that's EVERYWHERE in the world. By any means, what the upper crust can get out of reality means fuck-all to the average guy. In Saudi Arabia sheikhs possess whole harems of women all to themselves, it doesn't mean that the average arab fucker scores as well as the ones born into that level of privilege. If you have a billion in your pocket you might just as well live at the north pole and still you'd thunder "let there be hoe$" and hoe$ would be, no matter what. Look at Dubai; they have a freaking indoor ski resort in the middle of the desert! First time I was there got out the plane at 1:00 am and there were 40 damn degrees celsius, but you can still rock your skis and go down that chilly snowy slope.[/QUOTE]Damn. Whole foods must be a lot more expensive in New York than in L. A. . I can afford whole foods in L. A. And I'm not a sheik. But what you are saying a guy in New York who eats at whole foods is the same as the sheiks in Saudi. . Damn.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1136976]Sounds like a personal problem. N. Y. Has always been pricey to live. If you can't hang then you need to leave.
That article was written by those who can afford to live in New York and the comforts that come with it, like shopping at whole foods. And for a man who can afford to live there. Its the best place in the WORLD for them.
Should you even be in this game called Mongering. If your money is that tight. [/QUOTE]When I moved to NYC from Toronto in 1997, it was expensive, but really not that much worse than Toronto. There were ways to leave cheaply and well, especially if you spoke good Spanish. That has changed a lot now. They really fucked up that city taking the drug money out of it. Totally crashed the economy.
What are the "comforts" that you refer to? Sweating your balls off waiting on that non-airconditioned platform to get a subway train that never comes, and then needing a new shave by the time you get to your destination because that shit is so slow? Or. If you have the money you can take a curry-smelling taxi driven by a maniac. Even a $12000 a month apartment in NYC has roaches, and the rats eat dogs for breakfast, there's garbage everywhere. Etc. Not to mention Whole Foods is fucking CRAP. None of that shit they sell there can even legally ENTER into Colombia right now because it violates environmental and health laws!
And the p4p scene? Bogota KILLS NYC in any dimension you could care to mention. Quality, quantity, variety. For that matter Bogota kills NYC for resaturants, music, and theater these days!
If you're money is that tight and you want to monger here, it's not that much of a problem. There's a *****house every second BLOCK, and there are places to meet any price range. Nobody in their right mind would claim that about NYC. Not to mention it's illegal there. They can impound your car, do a whole bunch of shit to you just for trying to get laid.
Not to mention if it's pussy you're looking for Bogota is FAR from being the top city in Colombia. I'd put just about any other city here above it in fact. I'm here for many other reasons other than pussy not to mention I'm not independently wealthy and have to work for a living, but if I were here for the pussy I'd be in Medellin Manizales Pereira Armenia Ibague Cali or just about anywhere in Santander as well.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1137066]Damn. Whole foods must be a lot more expensive in New York than in L. A. . I can afford whole foods in L. A. And I'm not a sheik. But what you are saying a guy in New York who eats at whole foods is the same as the sheiks in Saudi. . Damn.[/QUOTE]It's good to read between the lines. Really. Not so good when you read things that simply are not there to begin with tho, but anyways.
Artisttyp here is an average guy like so many of us, unlike you he's a NewYawker, he's given us his point of view about the city he lives in and that's worth much more than the sexandthecity-esque drivel link that you provided in your vain attempt to convince us that "none got nothing over the good ol' USA, fuck yeah!".
I was just trying to point out that it doesn't make any sense whatsoever to judge a place from the point of view of someone loaded with cash, for the simple reason that money make it happen anywhere anyhow and at any given time.
Let me take it a step further than that tho and state that all of these "best city" rankings are complete and utter bullshit. A few years ago I came across another one of such lists and the top city in that one was Zurich. I pissed on myself in laughter because Zurich was the worst place I have ever had the misfortune to be to at the time (hadn't been yet to Sao Vicente in Cape Verde back then). And if you don't believe me just apply for a passport, hop on a swiss air flight and go there; look at people's faces and tell me that is one of the best cities in the world that they live in. Look at them with those green faces of theirs, look at them smoking cigarettes like obsessed at the bus stops, you can smell the stress and unhappiness in the air. Then take the article and wipe your ass with it.
A good friend of mine has been living there for ten years, I have been there to visit him and for my own business countless times, from the very first time I have told him to drop that city and run away and try and be happy, to no avail. Finally his dumbass wife dumped him last month and so he's now packing his shit up ready to leave and I feel like popping some champagne about it.
There is no such thing as "The Best City" to live in, it's all up to you and your very personal likes and dislikes, wants and needs and possibilities. We all look different and have different tastes, and so what does it for you could not do it for me just as well. But honestly, I can't see how an enormous, rotten to the core, rats and roaches infested, perennially traffic-jammed metropolis could make it for anyone other than the guy going to the office in his own elicopter with Louis Vuitton interiors.
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What a shame. Bitterness
New York. Surely does have Rats. And yes for $1200 a month you could easily have roaches. All this is true. And I don't dispute any of that. Its expensive to live comfortably in New York.
On the other. Hand.
It has to be at least if not #1 its #2 in the World for Fashion. So what does that mean. Models. So the most beautiful women from all over the WORLD go to this one city seeking to be TOP MODELS.
Its one of the top cities in the world for true Stage acting. There's no where as famous as BROADWAY. So again it draws beautiful women from around the world to be BROADWAY stars.
Its one of the top cities in the world for TV / Movie production. This draws beautiful women from all over the WORLD.
As far as within the country it has probably the most prestigious school for Arts with the Julliard school which has been featured in countless movies. Drawing beautiful teens girls which will stay in the city for work. Make a new crop coming constantly
Not to mention all the high price secretaries for the Wall street types / Bankers etc etc which is one the most influenctial and wealthy financial industries in the world.
To say there aren't PLENTY of Beautiful women in New York city is just plain silly.
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Hmmm.
Is it just me who thinks this, or in general are American women very often saddled with subpar bodies and outrageous demands who treat sex as much as a transaction as the average prostitute? Except with American women, there's no guarantees to the service provided?
As I drove around my city here and fruitlessly tried to find a massage provider with a decent attitude, I couldn't help but daydream of my recent trip to Buenos Aires.
One girl there did in-call in her apartment. And as she escorted me back down in the elevator, it was easy to see that neighbors had to know what she did for a living, since they were in the elevator, too. And they didn't seem to judge her at all for it, not even with a horny gringo like me to be seen with her. And I'm talking about other women with kids who were exchanging friendly greetings with my provider.
Yes, Buenos Aires was nice. If only here I had the option to go get my dick sucked twice in an hour for a reasonable sum and then go look at paintings.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1137957]New York. Surely does have Rats. And yes for $1200 a month you could easily have roaches. All this is true. And I don't dispute any of that. Its expensive to live comfortably in New York.
On the other. Hand.
It has to be at least if not #1 its #2 in the World for Fashion. So what does that mean. Models. So the most beautiful women from all over the WORLD go to this one city seeking to be TOP MODELS.
Its one of the top cities in the world for true Stage acting. There's no where as famous as BROADWAY. So again it draws beautiful women from around the world to be BROADWAY stars.
Its one of the top cities in the world for TV / Movie production. This draws beautiful women from all over the WORLD.
As far as within the country it has probably the most prestigious school for Arts with the Julliard school which has been featured in countless movies. Drawing beautiful teens girls which will stay in the city for work. Make a new crop coming constantly
Not to mention all the high price secretaries for the Wall street types / Bankers etc etc which is one the most influenctial and wealthy financial industries in the world.
To say there aren't PLENTY of Beautiful women in New York city is just plain silly. [/QUOTE]I didn't say $1200 a month. I said $12000! You'll have roaches if you live in the South Bronx. You'll also have them even if you live in Tribeca or Carnegie Hill, just keeping it real.
I live in Bogota now and still regularly visit NYC, the only reason being because I have kids there.
NO WAY IN HELL there are plenty of beautiful women in NYC. Not even on the best day does it come CLOSE to Bogota, and like I just said, Bogota is FAR from the place where the most beautiful women are in this country.
As far as live music and theater, NYC is DEAD! Which is why I moved out in the first place. I can take the roaches and rats and shitty food, but when the culture dies, CIAO BELLA! . What's Broadway these days, $3 million budget for flashy sets, and subpar singing acting and dancing. A bunch of uncultured fucks from flyover country come in and think they're seeing good theater because how the fuck would they know better? No fucking thank you.
In music, well, that's my FIELD. There's even LESS left in music. Nightlife. Pffff. TRY and find even ONE swingers club in NYC. I challenge you. I could show you 16 here in Bogota! Try and find Sandoz acid in NYC. Try and find MDMA or K. Try to even find cocaine that's not been stepped on a dozen times. Hell, try to find a nice juicy succulent orange. NO, that garbage you're eating from Whole Foods is NOT fresh. Come here and you'll know the difference with the first bite!
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1136904]This article is complete bullshit. What they are talking about is this superficial carrie bradshaw world / bubble that the media has created. Only a small population of NY fits into that mold. Hanging at the latest lounge eating overpriced grub hiring personal trainers shopping at whole foods. The rest of us here live like animals and whack of to free craigslist photos.
The funny thing is most of the people into that scene aren't true new yorkers! These are people who moved here in the past ten years since it became a safe police state. They see sex and the city on TV and they come here searching for it OR better yet CREATE IT.
This city is monkey see monkey do. This has been going on for ten years now. If anybody has the brains or money they would leave. Most people are stuck here. Its a vicious cycle to get out of.
If you live in the outeer boroughs like the bronx queens or Brooklyn you might do a little better. Things are a little more kickback but you need to be with your own group or sect ie puerto rican men find women black guys find women in their area asians etc. But when you look at it universally most men will tell you Saturday night is a dud!
Don't believe all these little quirky NYC is so fabulous articles that pop up. They are written by people that have no idea what NYC is. The new TREND is to upsell NYC because so many locals view it as a living hell.
I guess if I shopped at whole foods and had some shmuck buy me dinner a few times a week. Plugged into a huge social network I might think differently but that isn't where most guys here fit in.
Did I mention no smoking in parks and beaches in 2 months? There goes the only pick up line I know " do you have a light?"[/QUOTE]This is likely closer to the truth.
But there is "race mixing" in NYC. There quite a few White Women "Down For The Brown" From Albany to New Jersey.
You still have the same problems however.
Most of the better looking women want the guy on Wall St or the guy in the entertainment industry. Not in any of those? You're likely assed out. The Millionaire Match Maker Patti
Stanger says these women are NUTZ. They claim they want "Family Oriented" men but aren't willing to venture out to the suburbs where former Wall St. Types have bought homes, hoping to fill it with a Wife and children down road.
Basically the Women of New York who you say correctly are mostly TRANSPLANTS believe its a hell hole to date men, when its their expectations that are out of control. Local men have a better chance with the Foreign Women that are in NYC for various reasons. I've found all sorts of Western and Eastern European Women living in New York.
My homie who lives on Long Island has been with the same Polish immigrant girl for the last 4 years.
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Huh?
New York has to be the dirtiest, most unsanitary, crowded ass hell, snobbish city on planet Earth. Data manipulation is extremely easy, put together the right criteria and Tibet could be the warmest and friendliest place on Earth. Have you been there? Holy crap! What a freaking dump! Their people are rude beyond reason, I saw nothing but raisin shaped AW with attitudes to boot, trash and graffiti everywhere. I have no agenda and I don't wish to argue any point / counterpoints but man, NYC is one disgusting tourist trap.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1137957]New York. Surely does have Rats. And yes for $1200 a month you could easily have roaches. All this is true. And I don't dispute any of that. Its expensive to live comfortably in New York.
On the other. Hand.
It has to be at least if not #1 its #2 in the World for Fashion. So what does that mean. Models. So the most beautiful women from all over the WORLD go to this one city seeking to be TOP MODELS.
Its one of the top cities in the world for true Stage acting. There's no where as famous as BROADWAY. So again it draws beautiful women from around the world to be BROADWAY stars.
Its one of the top cities in the world for TV / Movie production. This draws beautiful women from all over the WORLD.
As far as within the country it has probably the most prestigious school for Arts with the Julliard school which has been featured in countless movies. Drawing beautiful teens girls which will stay in the city for work. Make a new crop coming constantly
Not to mention all the high price secretaries for the Wall street types / Bankers etc etc which is one the most influenctial and wealthy financial industries in the world.
To say there aren't PLENTY of Beautiful women in New York city is just plain silly. [/QUOTE]
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ps. they have been ticketing bicycle riders for speeding in central park this week. this happened at 6am to people trying to workout before going to work. its a joke!
dj,
yes in a city a large and diverse as nyc you will see race mixing like most places in america. however since minorities have been pushed further away from the city the landscape has turned more vanilla.
there was an era when i lived uptown and could bike into harlem (another world) in just a few minutes. these days harlem is crawling with white families and tour buses. imho nyc has gone more the way of la in the sense that your neighborhood defines you. people have gotten more segregated due to money issues. there have been many people uprooted with ny's improvement.
the problem with dating in nyc is finding the right way to meet someone in a city where each move is contrived. nobody hangs out in nyc. mainly due to the weather conditions and that overall personalities don't match up here. i personally like southern hospitality but that doesn't fly here. its cold. chances are you will be looking for love in all the wrong places. clubs gyms offices. if you arent plugged into any network or getting invited to industry parties or private get togethers you are at the mercy of clubs and public gatherings. at 41 its a huge turn off especially with all the rules. i used to party in the good days of nyc. now they want to feed me this crap they call nightlife with airport security at a premium. you're buggin!
i also wanted to mention that transportation stops onnthe weekends. good luck exploring the party scene in brooklyn. it will take you over an hour to get back to midtown late at night. sometimes they cut service all together so you have to go backwards to go forwards. you can take a cab if you want. add that to your bar bill entrance fee and drinks you might buy for a lady friend. you need rip up money to play in nyc.
every blue moon i get laid in nyc but its always a fluke and always a one nighter. there is no time to date here. it is extremely expensive and the fall of the good times has killed any enthusiasm i had left. instead i assume lock down position and save until i can travel which luckily enough happens once every 2 months.
i have a choice to spend my money here or save up for a trip. saving for trips takes precedent over everything at the moment. i can't spend money on both.
[quote=dj fourmoney; 1138131]this is likely closer to the truth.
but there is "race mixing" in nyc. there quite a few white women "down for the brown" from albany to new jersey.
you still have the same problems however.
most of the better looking women want the guy on wall st or the guy in the entertainment industry. not in any of those? you're likely assed out. the millionaire match maker patti stanger says these women are nutz. they claim they want "family oriented" men but aren't willing to out to the suburbs where former wall st. types have bought homes, hoping to fill it with a wife and children down road.
basically the women of new york who you say correctly are mostly transplants believe its a hell hole to date men, when its their expectations that are out of control. local men have a better chance with the foreign women that are in nyc for various reasons. i've found all sorts of western and eastern european women living in new york.
my homie who lives on long island has been with the same polish immigrant girl for the last 4 years. [/quote]