success with women literature
At one point, as I was looking for answers for to correct the inability to date after I got out of a traditional college environment, I read just about everything on the market about success in dating. I can definitively state that of what is out there, 99.999% is useless, complete, and utter bullshit, and a waste of paper. Dedicatedly following the advice of one tome in particular "Love Tactics" turned me from a fairly normal boneheaded kid (but still one who stumbled into an occassional piece of ass and a girlfriend or two) into a wimpy, obsequious ass kisser/borderline stalker who spent more years than I care to think abouit in a state of unloved celibacy. Granted, some good did come of that, as the result of that is lack of what would be by now a ***** ex wife, and child support payments.....but I digress.
For those interested (I personally don't care enough about getting AW to really bother implementint the advice in the US), the following books/guru's etc. have some validity to their methodology in my opinion:
1. "How to succeed with women" by Louis and Copeland was my first real awakening to how the female mind worked, and addressed getting past the "screens" that they put up to weed out "undesireables". Worth a look, although they don't really (as I recall-been a while since reading) the roles of masculinity/femininity, and submission/dominance (I"m referring to normal interactions, not S&M). Can be obtained on Amazon, or in many bookstores.
2. "How to Date Young Women-for men over 35" is also very informative. It deals extensively with feminine psychology, and what the interior process of the (young) woman is like. Facinating read. Now the author is (Don Steele) can be bit of a.self righteous ass for lack of a better description, but his work is absolutely worth taking a look at. His books are on Amazon, and also can be obtained at steelballs.com
3, David Deangelo of doubleyourdating.com was my most recent find. I bought his e-book, and found his material to be highly derivative of that which has come before (he read the same stuff I did, but managed to create a workable system out of it), He also has a free e-mail distribution list, which is fairly informative. The thing that makes Deangelo worthwhile is his invention of "cocky and funny", which is basically fucking with women (establishing dominance, and rising above their bullshit in a "jerk like" manner....but without having to be a useless bad boy loser), but doing so in a humorous fashion. I can tell you that it is a lot more fun fucking with women than it is to follow them around kissing their asses.
That is all,
"Bart9K"
American women want to drive Hummers, not give them
A little economic commentary mixed in with some amusing observations on male-female relationships and social status in the United States. Of course these comparisons would ring true most anywhere in the world, perhaps. It's just that we here in the U.S. are blessed (cursed?) with the world's largest economy, therefore keeping up with the Joneses involves spending more money than most other places. Nothing earth shattering here, but a good read nonetheless.
P.S. - this article was written pre-Katrina, before the gas price shock had cut into the sales of Hummers
from The Daily Reckoning, by Bill Bonner <http://dailyreckoning.com/index.html>
It's all sex and lies.
Everything. The debt bubble. The real estate bubble. The trade deficit bubble.
Why is there a $600 billion trade deficit? Because Americans want to buy things they can't afford. Why do they buy things they can't afford? To pretend to be richer than they are. Why do they want to be appear richer than they are? Because it gives them higher social status. Why do they want higher about social status? So they will have better access to the opposite sex.
We are back in the United States after an absence of several months. Suddenly, the roads are crowded with Hummers. Why would anyone want to drive around in a big, awkward, ugly, expensive car when a small, cheap one would get him where he was going just as well? Because they want to "maximize their inclusive fitness" say scientists. They want as many of their genes floating around the gene pool as possible. The Hummer is like long, bright tail feathers on a bird. Or a big rack of antlers on a deer. From a utilitarian point of view, they are worthless. Worse than worthless, as a matter of fact. They increase the risk that rivals and predators will notice the animal. They take energy to carry around. And they slow the animal down, making it hard for him to maneuver in a fight or to get away.
The huge cars are only useful, near as anyone who thinks about such matters can figure, as conspicuous consumption; they wink to the opposite sex that the animal is game for a little hanky-panky. If he can carry around all that extra baggage and still survive, he must be tough. So, too, if a person can live in a McMansion and drive a Hummer without going bankrupt, he must be a good prospect for a date.
But it's all relative. If everybody on the block buys a Hummer and puts in a swimming pool, the man who has those things already loses his edge. He has to spend even more - bringing himself even closer to bankruptcy - in order to show off. What can he do? Write poetry and put a feminist bumper sticker on his old Hummer?
"Forget sensitivity," said a woman over dinner last night. "The man must show that he's capable...that he's strong...that he knows what he's doing."
"Yeah," said a divorced friend who has been studying dating strategies, "you have to be 'the man with the plan.' You signal to the woman that you've got it figured out...that your time is valuable...and that, if she wants to hook up with you, she can to so, but only on your terms. What you don't want to do is to take her out on a date and spend a lot of money on her. You have to show that you have a lot of money, but you don't want to give her the impression that she'll be in charge of how it is spent. That would start the relationship off on the wrong foot."
Women aren't stupid, of course. They know you can move into a McMansion with no money down and no money anywhere else. They know you can lease a Hummer and buy an Armani suit with credit cards. They try to find out if the man really has money or not. It is the beginning of the battle between the sexes. The man tries to deceive the woman about his fitness for procreation. The woman tries to detect the deception, while deceiving him - with make-up and various artifices - about her own attractiveness. The poor man has to show more and more evidence that he's really the one with the large rack and the bright feathers. He has to take on more and more expensive burdens. Second and third houses...European vacations...a home theatre...cosmetic surgery. The schmuck needs to spend, spend, spend - or he's going to be spending his nights alone.
You might say that a "smart" woman would see her way through the foolishness of it all and prefer a man with no desire to show off - maybe a good, solid schoolteacher who cares about the environment and drives an old Pinto. But if she mates with such a man, she dooms her offspring, say the scientists, for the man is likely to father sons much like himself - men who are only attractive to smart women. How many of them are there? Her own genes will find fewer opportunities for reproductive success, in other words...and what's so smart about that?
In order to spread her genes as widely as possible, a woman needs offspring, particularly males, who are "high ranking," - that is, those who can carry around gaudy expenses without going broke. Her best strategy is to make with a high ranking male. Her good fortune would be to have many sons with him - high ranking boys who would find many mates of their own. And for that she must make herself as desirable to him as possible. This, too, begins with deception and often ends in disappointment. She must spend much of her time and money as though she were a candidate for public office - that is, deceiving people about what she is. The scientists call it "impression management." She must appear high ranking - by wearing expensive clothes instead of cheap ones...by driving an expensive car, rather than a cheap one...by living at an expensive address...eating in expensive restaurants...going on expensive vacations and sporting expensive jewelry. She must also appear as physically attractive as possible.
Remember, it's all about sex.
Eastern European women vs. AW women
Bart9000:
Refering to your comparison of AWs and EE women and their behavior, I think one of the most notable differences is that EE women are more interested in successful men then merely good-looking ones.
It isnt only that EE women are interested in money and the comfort money can bring, which is an understandable factor considering the changes their countries have gone through, but successful men are generally considered to be more manly and more desirable. Basic social Darwinism.
This will likely change with time. I think it is only a matter of time before "Western" dating and mating principles corrupt EE as well as EE women become more independent and copy the ways of the West, which they are being forced fed by both Western TV culture and their own... which is based on those Western TV recipes which prove successful. I dont want to paint too bleak of a picture and it will likely never reach the catastrophic state that it has in the US, but the Earth's few paradises are becoming fewer and fewer with each pop culture media-bloated year.
Fuck while you can get it.
American men dont know any better
Based on my own experience as a high school student and in college before I "saw the light", American men are seemingly conditioned to believe that sex is the "end all be all" of human existence and that the only way to get it is by kissing a girls ass.... figuratively and unfortunately not literally.
Nowhere else on the planet, except maybe those other Anglo paradises like England and Australia, will you see so many genuinely likable and even good-looking men with absolutely horrible looking and disgustingly behaving girlfriends and wives.
When I visit the US I genuinely feel sorry for my brethren and feel like enlightening them... they have no idea how much quality and appreciative pussy they could get elsewhere.
I maintain my theory that American men are collectively mutually responsible for the poor state of affairs that exists in relation to women there. I was equally guilty of this sort of weakness until I went to Europe as a student and seemingly fucked the entire dormitory full of Irish, French, German and Swedish girls. It completely changed my attitude and upon the return to the US did much better with women there as well. Like a resurrection. All it took was a change of attitude.
In any case there is nothing to lose in trying. Getting rejected can be taken with humour. We arent trying to fall in love with these girls (at least I presume not)... we just want to fuck them, and you'll never get "game" unless you practice.
If all else fails, go to AMPs, Mexico, Thailand, Montreal, DomRep or whereever and practice on hos... :)