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[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]Well, if you are prepared to consider 5'5" and 170 lbs, there may still be some available in those sizes. I think most guys would draw the line a couple of stone lower. By the way, I looked at these stats and found that the worst increases (over a decade or so) were amongst black and hispanic women and youth (white women only increased marginally in obesity).
But of course the other side of the equation is men, who are not really much better, statistically speaking.
Last weekend I spent a lazy summer morning in my city's downtown market, where the cafes are, watching the mass of early morning humanity go by, and I have to say it was not a pretty sight. I probably observed a couple of thousand people, and they (we) were a sorry lot. Overweight, yes, but equally ugly and poorly dressed - these attributes applying to men and women alike. How did we descend to become such a slovenly society?
Out of the thousand or more women I only saw a few (like 2 - 4) who were even marginally desirable. Maybe a dozen or so if looking through sufficiently powerful beer googles. None worth paying for - out of a thousand+ in the entertainment district in the centre of my nation's capital city!! And as I say, the men were no better in their t-shirts, baseball caps and sock & sandal combos. It is a wonder we reproduce at all. Some of these people probably could have been presentable if dressed decently, but NONE would have been a head-turner even then.
Compare this with walking down any busy street in Eastern Europe (sorry, don't know about street candy in other mongering destinations), where half of the women are doable, lots are stunning, and there are always some to die for! And frankly, even the black-shirted, flat-topped faux-mafiso types (i.e. all Russian males under 40) look better than most of the men I saw in my city.
My point is simply that it is not just AW (or in this case, Canadian women) who are the problem. North American males are just as pathetic - except us mongers who are fit, stylish and always ready for action![/QUOTE]
There's a Slavic girl on a certain Single's Tour Web site with HUGE at least Double D if not larger boobs and clocks in at 154lbs, still with a classic Coke shape and all of 25.
Most likely not what most men looking for Slavic women want, but if I was in a position to go, I'd contact her, why not? She's pretty overall.
@170lbs you're getting into big hips and thighs area, which is fairly normal in America actually. Sure I would love thinner as I said several times these are not hard and fast rules, I would love to have a model thin girl which is why I'm willing to give up some ass and tittie for 100-150lbs and over 5'4
About local women however, I'll only even consider AW if an attractive woman accepts me at my worst which where I am currently (unemployed) AND living at home.
HIGHLY UNLIKELY, I'm more likely to get read the riot act about how much of a looser I am. I recently told a British transplant who's now a US Citizen all the above plus she is allergic to Cat Dander. So I failed, not sure if its the Cat Dander or the other stuff, but she said Cat Dander and wished me luck, this was a fairly attractive 41yr old woman, not fat, professional hairdresser lived in Hollywood.
It can't get any worst than it is right now. I am just biding my time starting school in a week (I hope). I could bang this really fat 30yr old girl. She's hanging out with her cousin from out of town for the next week or two. Maybe I might do it when I have her undivided attention. She hit me up first saying most guys don't wanna talk to her. Well no sh*t, but sensing some (a) desperation on her account (b) aggressive behavior (constantly contacting me first), she wants of course a relationship like all women do, but I am not giving a BBW a relationship I did that once, once is enough. But as a companion and likely sex partner, I guess she could be ugly too, she's not.
And they say were likely to double dip.
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In fact I don't mind a girl to around 170lbs as long as they are over 5'4
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I attached a picture of a 170 pound woman.
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I guess 5'5" 170 would be low average for an AM. To me that's just plain disgustingly obese. Now I understand how a woman with those dimensions describes herself as "average" or "medium". Too many AM have those standards and expectations, plus most probably also have a weight problem. I'm 5"10" and 164. Why would I wish to be crushed by a hippo who is shorter than I yet weighs more?!
Used to have a girlfriend who was 5'6" and 116, AW of Nordic descent. Current Japanese girlfriend is 5' and 97. Both of them have lovely proportionate feminine curves.
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[QUOTE=Yogin]I guess 5'5" 170 would be low average for an AM. To me that's just plain disgustingly obese. Now I understand how a woman with those dimensions describes herself as "average" or "medium". Too many AM have those standards and expectations, plus most probably also have a weight problem. I'm 5"10" and 164. Why would I wish to be crushed by a hippo who is shorter than I yet weighs more?!
Used to have a girlfriend who was 5'6" and 116, AW of Nordic descent. Current Japanese girlfriend is 5' and 97. Both of them have lovely proportionate feminine curves.[/QUOTE]
Well I'm 6'0 nearly 6'1 and 185-190lbs. I love thinner women and on occasion I have landed a few. But as you know Black Men get a fair amount of attention from overweight women, you know the drill.
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[QUOTE=Yogin]I guess 5'5" 170 would be low average for an AM. [/QUOTE]
Oops. I meant "AW".
I too get attention from overweight women; it is unwanted. I choose to ignore them, as I find them to be repulsive.
Just my taste, that's all. No criticism intended as to the taste of others.
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[QUOTE=Yogin]I guess 5'5" 170 would be low average for an AM. To me that's just plain disgustingly obese. Now I understand how a woman with those dimensions describes herself as "average" or "medium". Too many AM have those standards and expectations, plus most probably also have a weight problem. I'm 5"10" and 164. Why would I wish to be crushed by a hippo who is shorter than I yet weighs more?!
Used to have a girlfriend who was 5'6" and 116, AW of Nordic descent. Current Japanese girlfriend is 5' and 97. Both of them have lovely proportionate feminine curves.[/QUOTE]5'5" 170 is really obese to me too. I would not want to be crashed by a hippo either. American standards are really messed up.
Some chicks which I date in FSU, I guess they would look anorexic for America:
5"2" 88 lbs
5"6 110lbs
5'8" 120lbs
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[QUOTE=Yogin]Oops. I meant "AW".
I too get attention from overweight women; it is unwanted. I choose to ignore them, as I find them to be repulsive.
Just my taste, that's all. No criticism intended as to the taste of others.[/QUOTE]
There's a difference between being slightly overweight (which is what I would call women over 5'4 and over 150lbs but under 190lbs) and a whale. I tend to turn them down as well, but it comes with a price, less sex.
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5'4" and 135 is slightly overweight. 5'4" and 150 is fat. 5'4" and 190 is obese. Yuck.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead]5'4" and 135 is slightly overweight. 5'4" and 150 is fat. 5'4" and 190 is obese. Yuck.[/QUOTE]
True but the women I usually date are closer to 5'8
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My bad. I missed the word "over." 5'8" woman should be around 140 or so, maybe 145. My goodness, women are significantly fatter in the US even than when I left seven years ago. Lots of fat men too but I don't notice much of a significant change there. Of course, there are a lot of Native Americans here and obesity is just rampant among them (as are acne, myopia, alcoholism, meth, etc; not a pretty sight).
In addition to what the previous poster wrote about everyone in the US dressing like shit, posture is terrible. Swearing in public, such as on public transit, is very obnoxious especially when done at high volume while talking on one's cell phone.
In general, returning after seven years, I have this to say to American women and American men:
Pull your pants up, comb your hair, lose 50 pounds, lose the stupid T-shirts, tie your shoelaces, stop saying "like" every third word, cover your mouth when you cough or yawn, get all the shrapnel and scrap metal out of your lips and eyebrows, and stop chewing gum with your mouth open.
Clean up your fucking act. 239 more days to go.
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[QUOTE=Goga Fung]5'5" 170 is really obese to me too. I would not want to be crashed by a hippo either. American standards are really messed up.
Some chicks which I date in FSU, I guess they would look anorexic for America:
5"2" 88 lbs
5"6 110lbs
5'8" 120lbs[/QUOTE]
Actually the opposite happens, they attract attention because of their weight or lack thereof. Given how most FSU women dress at home, heals, skirts, dresses, etc; They can shop in the Young Ms section and that makes many AW positivity green with rage and jealously.
I see many FSU that are size zero to maybe 4-5, almost all under 140lbs. The ladies that "heavy" are around 5'9 usually or over 30, where you just have natural weight gain.
I never liked really short women (5'4 and below), I've always loved women around eye level 5'8-6'0.
All you have to do is cruise around your typical US based web site and many of the women are 15-20lbs overweight if not worst. That is the majority.
Seems every women that contacts me online is FAT, not slightly overweight, except on LL :)
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[QUOTE=Dickhead]My bad. I missed the word "over." 5'8" woman should be around 140 or so, maybe 145. My goodness, women are significantly fatter in the US even than when I left seven years ago. Lots of fat men too but I don't notice much of a significant change there. Of course, there are a lot of Native Americans here and obesity is just rampant among them (as are acne, myopia, alcoholism, meth, etc; not a pretty sight).
In addition to what the previous poster wrote about everyone in the US dressing like shit, posture is terrible. Swearing in public, such as on public transit, is very obnoxious especially when done at high volume while talking on one's cell phone.
In general, returning after seven years, I have this to say to American women and American men:
Pull your pants up, comb your hair, lose 50 pounds, lose the stupid T-shirts, tie your shoelaces, stop saying "like" every third word, cover your mouth when you cough or yawn, get all the shrapnel and scrap metal out of your lips and eyebrows, and stop chewing gum with your mouth open.
Clean up your fucking act. 239 more days to go.[/QUOTE]
The best was riding the train in NYC back to catch a plane the last time I was there a couple months ago.
This totally ghetto group of teenage kids were all sitting next to me, screaming at the top of their lungs, talking about their buddies who got locked up so all of us got to hear it, arguing about stupid shit, then two of the boys got in a fist fight and one of them started crying, the older girl started cussing them out and then said to the rest of us in the train car "wtf yall looking at motherfuckers?" ..... then one of the nasty little primates let loose the nastiest fart I've ever smelled and everyone was laughing about it... nuuuuuuuuuu thank you, I could NEVER live there again...
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[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]The best was riding the train in NYC back to catch a plane the last time I was there a couple months ago.
This totally ghetto group of teenage kids were all sitting next to me, screaming at the top of their lungs, talking about their buddies who got locked up so all of us got to hear it, arguing about stupid shit, then two of the boys got in a fist fight and one of them started crying, the older girl started cussing them out and then said to the rest of us in the train car "WTF yall looking at motherfuckers? ". Then one of the nasty little primates let loose the nastiest fart I've ever smelled and everyone was laughing about it. Nuuuuuuuuuu thank you, I could never live there again.[/QUOTE]I'm sure all those drug gang teenagers in Colombia. Are very courteous about shooting and robbing you. Theyuse proper etiquitte when they rob you.
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For every one whinning guy who doesn't like AW. There are 10 men and 20 women begging to come into America.
If americans really loved skinny girls as you guys. EE and SEA countries would be high on the tourist list. But the most visited countries are the ones with fattest women outside of the USA namely the UK and France. And even for latin countries its mexico. Which has to have the fattest women of latin america
So leave. You won't be missed and leave those who are happy with AW. Which obviously is the majority.
CYA and have fun living in your newly found havens. But there are millions who are not only happy but think they have it the best in the world. In america you are a tiny minority. But to each his own.
TG
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[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]The best was riding the train in NYC back to catch a plane the last time I was there a couple months ago.
This totally ghetto group of teenage kids were all sitting next to me, screaming at the top of their lungs, talking about their buddies who got locked up so all of us got to hear it, arguing about stupid shit, then two of the boys got in a fist fight and one of them started crying, the older girl started cussing them out and then said to the rest of us in the train car "WTF yall looking at motherfuckers? ". Then one of the nasty little primates let loose the nastiest fart I've ever smelled and everyone was laughing about it. Nuuuuuuuuuu thank you, I could NEVER live there again.[/QUOTE]The sad thing about New York is that there are millions of people that behave like those thugs you met in the train but there are millions who are not like that and have to endure such barbaric behavior among their fellow citizens but such idiotic behavior is not confined to NYC, I just came back from San Francisco, I ran into a teenage boy and girl who were reenacting the UFC in an electronics store but when I walked by the boy at least had some courtesy to say excuse me and yelled at his girlfriend for acting out in a public place, so yes they behaved stupidly but the boy had the decency to say excuse me, I doubt I would hear a pair like that do the same in NYC. I am actually in the process of helping a friend in NY get out of there and migrate to Australia. We have are own share of bad characters in Oz but in general you can easily avoid them unlike in NY where trouble will find you.