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AW and sex
A little background:
I am 53, less than a quarter inch shy of 6 feet tall and usually weigh 165-170. I work out enough to have some muscle tone and a nearly flat stomach. 10 years ago, I could pass for 10 years less than my actual age. Now it's more like 5.
From 2005 to about 2008, I spent the majority of those years living in keiv and then Kharkov.
About 3-5 months into 2008, I ran out of money and am back home in the states.
I have very little to do with AW but now that my stay in the US is getting long, I have to admit I have sought out AW for sex.
I have an unusual method. I find women online and am very honest and direct about my approach.
Most of these women will not have anything to do with a man looking for anything less than a long term relationship, or so they fool themselves into thinking.
After trying just about every approach one can think of, and none of them working, I started to offer some of the "erotica" I tell these women I write. Those who are interested invariably become turned on and many call me wanting phone sex, which I am not really into but will follow up in an attempt to meet in person. Many I have and most I have sex with. Once, maybe twice but rarely more than 3 different meetings for sex. Nearly all end up as nothing more than brief sexual flings.
Before I go and meet any of these women in person, I like to have a very clear understanding of what to expect IF there is mutual attraction, chemistry and desire upon meeting.
Some of these women go right for the sex once we meet. Others, maybe after a few drinks. Nearly all go for the sex but not every one of them. If we hit it off but they have some lame excuse (last one was "my mother told me not to on a first date". Never mind that was 30-40 years ago and long before the internet), not to have sex but they want to have a second date, I rarely, if ever see them again.
The 53yr old I posted about earlier is an attractive woman for her age, having kept the weight off. I sent her some of my "erotica" and she replied that she was wet and turned on. She asked if she could call and if I would read more to her, which I did.
She listened and I could hear her moaning and I am sure she was masturbating.
We made plans to meet, but since she lives about 1 1/2 hour from me, I always insist on meeting halfway. I also want to be very clear with them that if we do NOT hit it off, nothing will happen and we will both leave separately. However, if we DO it hit off, I want it to be sure we are on the same page as to what is likely to happen. Most women are good with this and I have no problem getting a room for several hours of sex.
Before I was going to drive 45 minutes to see this woman, I asked her what will happen if we hit it off. The best she would do is "we will see". That answer is not good enough for me so I sent her the following email:
Me:
"if we hit it off, (so we are clear: that means there is mutual attraction, chemistry and desire), will you want to experience with me some if not all and more, of the things described in my erotica and also that of which I read to you?
I ask because we are both going to some distance (not huge but still, a drive) to meet each other.
You have said "we'll see" even after I have asked this in a way that is not leaving it up to IF we hit it off or not. I am asking what if we DO hit it off.
The "we will see" is more of an answer to "will we hit it off" than it is an answer to "what will we do if we do hit it off"
As I said in my profile, I want to meet a woman who is a potentially consenting adult. Which means, if we hit it off, we're going into this equally. I do not want to meet a woman who knows she wants sex with me but wants to put it off for artificial reasons
I do like your pics and I do think we will hit it off, but that is only if you are able to let go of your disappointment in your ex, your past and men in general.
In fact, if we have sex, I bet it will be wonderful. As you agree, women love sex as much as any man. So if we hit it off, there should not be anything keeping us from doing something about it
What do you think? "
Her reply:
"you're looking for a hookup. I have to tell you that even if there was a physical attraction between us, I would not sleep with you the first time I met you. That's not my disappointment with any other man, society's attitude, etc. It's about knowing a person well enough to let them have that part of you. It's got to be more than just a physical attraction for me. I went out with a man several years younger than me, and yes, there was sexual tension and he was extremely hot. But as I got to know him, he turned out to be a liar, a bigot, and generally annoying. Again, sex follows an emotional connection. At least for me. I really think we're looking for different things."
Of course I declined to meet her.
Remember, this is after a lot of email exchanges, her reading several of the erotic stories I wrote as well as listening to me on the phone while she was masturbating.
She prior to this, she has told me of at least two relationships that the men turned out to be "losers, lairs, etc., etc., " mush like the man she described above.
What is interesting is these are men who she made to wait and have sevral dates before becoming sexual.
My point? These women think they are "getting to know" a man while denying them sex for 1-5 dates, yet become sexually involved. They do not see the irony in that there is NO WAY to sufficiently "get to know" anyone, on any number of dates, that will ensure or guarantee a "successful" relationship.
I tell them this. I also tell them if there was a fool proof number of dates to "get to know" each other that will ensure success, we all would be doing that and we would all be in good relationships. Again:
Woman: "How do you write women so well? " Melvin: "I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability."
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[QUOTE=Robert1110]A little background:
Me:
"if we hit it off, (so we are clear: that means there is mutual attraction, chemistry and desire), will you want to experience with me some if not all and more, of the things described in my erotica and also that of which I read to you?
I ask because we are both going to some distance (not huge but still, a drive) to meet each other.
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Just because you have the idea of a sex meeting does not mean she is on the same page. When she meets you, she might be disappointed or not attracted or feels compelled to change her mind. Can't blame her....or you. You might be disappointed after seeing her in person. Pictures, WEB cams, etc...do not do justice as much as seeing in person.
I think most women who are not p4p would not hop in bed the first time out.
Sure, you spelled it out verbatim what you expected..."I drive for "X" amount time to meet you...we are hooking up...my dick is ready!"
Obviously, she want to be cautious. Many boneheads out there...not saying you are...but can't blame one for being cautious....
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"Just because you have the idea of a sex meeting does not mean she is on the same page. When she meets you, she might be disappointed or not attracted or feels compelled to change her mind. Can't blame her. Or you. You might be disappointed after seeing her in person. Pictures, WEB cams, etc. Do not do justice as much as seeing in person."
Ben, I guess you missed it or maybe I forgot to type it.
Of course she (or more likely, me) may be disappointed for any number of reasons. I thought I was clear about the "hitting it off" part, the mutual desire, chemistry and attraction having to be present. And again, many women have jumped right on it. After a few minutes or a few drinks.
I thought it was just women who didn't read that part.
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I think that waiting for an emotional connection before having sex is stupid. Sex should come FIRST, and the emotional connection later, not the other way around.
Of course this is not just an American problem. At all.
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[QUOTE=Robert1110]Hello, I just had to come here and paste a email exchange with an AW age 53
Me: "we see porn with women much better looking than most of the women we date. Doing things with a guy or a group. Doing things our own wive or girlfriends will not do. And there are thousands upon thousands of women willing to do that on camera with men they do not even know
Why can't our own girlfriend or wife be that way with their husband or boyfriend?
Her: "Those women are being compensated. And keep in mind, most of the men they're with are better looking than the men most of us date. Women do love sex as much as any man, but need to feel a connection in order to let go of their "repressions".
Me: "So it takes compensation? LOL. Wives living on a husbands dime for life isn't compensation? "
Her: "I worked full time through most of my marriage, and continue to do so. Any desire I had for my ex started to vaporize when he began putting work, friends, and himself ahead of me. A broken connection."
Me: "And this has something to do with what? "
Her: "It has nothing to do with anything that matters."
Me: "not over the ex? I mean. What does this have to do with anything? And you defend women for not being sexual because they are not compensated?
It takes compensation? Wow"
Her: "I didn't say women should be compensated. Just that it could be that women aren't necessarily repressed because of society, but maybe because of the men they're with."
Me: "Of course! Its the men's fault."
I post this because I see a pattern with almost all american women. That pattern being, it is men's fault that women are the way women are, regardless of the poor choice's the women make. Nearly all blame an ex husband for their continuing problems, years after they divorce. Most of these women I have communicated with told me they did not love heir husband's the day they married them.
I wonder why these marriages are a miserable failure.
From "as good as it gets"
Woman: "How do you write women so well? " Melvin: "I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability."[/QUOTE]Hi Robert & other readers: yes, it is always the man's fault or someone else's fault, not the woman's fault. Goes back to the very beginning in the Garden of Eden if you believe that. God has a funny sense of humor creating this woman we find so desirable yet her brain is wired completely different than ours.
A guy would have to be completely nuts to marry an AW...or bring a foreign woman to America where they become Americanized. AWs are spoiled rotten, carry more baggage than United Airlines and all become menopausal psychotics in their 40s & 50s. They all want to be a man in a man's world but still want the man to pay for everything. It's nuts.
That's why I go TJ, Asia and ocassionally SA or Carribean to pay for pussy and big tits. I'm 53, good looking (well, that's always relative) and well-educated. If I ever settle down it will be in a foreign country 15 years from now, probably Argentina, Equador or maybe Cebu, PI...with a busty, beautiful, degreed foreign RN one-half to one-third my age. Well, that's the plan...
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[QUOTE=Jwdub]Just in case the first set of pictures didn't make you puke. Here are another set from the same cougar convention. The last one in particular is ready to give you a real hummer (LOL).
[url]http://www.7x7.com/blogs/clamour/photos-national-cougar-convention[/url][/QUOTE]
Its worst than we thought - [url]http://www.cougarconvention.com/[/url]
This is no different than older women in their 20's still dating teenagers...
The only difference is they have more money and a higher social position than they did when they were younger.
No wonder I can't keep all these older women from hitting up my personal profile...
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goose/gander
I don't see how you fellows can begrudge these cougars their bit of fun - aren't they doing exactly what we're doing? Perhaps our brains aren't wired so very differently after all.. perhaps its more a matter of just who has the whip-hand (money).
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[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]Its worst than we thought - [url]http://www.cougarconvention.com/[/url]
This is no different than older women in their 20's still dating teenagers...
The only difference is they have more money and a higher social position than they did when they were younger.
No wonder I can't keep all these older women from hitting up my personal profile...[/QUOTE]DJ, it sounds like you're cougar bait! ;)
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[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]Its worst than we thought - [url]http://www.cougarconvention.com/[/url]
This is no different than older women in their 20's still dating teenagers...
The only difference is they have more money and a higher social position than they did when they were younger.
No wonder I can't keep all these older women from hitting up my personal profile...[/QUOTE]It gets even worse! Now they have a Television show on ABC coming this season Cougar Town. Granted it has a some what attractive Courtney Cox, but the fall back on all the 40 something women who believe that this will be their new entitlement is going to be nauseating. This is the You Tube trailer.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HLhOrQuy9U[/url]
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[QUOTE=Chocha Monger]DJ, it sounds like you're cougar bait! ;)[/QUOTE]
Seems that way, the last few women that have contacted me have been at least 39. While I'm 39 myself (now), I am not interested.
I rather be some other kind of bait..lol
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[QUOTE=Jwdub]It gets even worse! Now they have a Television show on ABC coming this season Cougar Town. Granted it has a some what attractive Courtney Cox, but the fall back on all the 40 something women who believe that this will be their new entitlement is going to be nauseating. This is the You Tube trailer.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HLhOrQuy9U[/url][/QUOTE]
I don't think this will be a new entitlement at all. Many AW already believe that dining on tenders shoots is their right. I recall a cougar that pursued a buddy and I. She was probably old enough to be our mother. After turning down her aggressive advances numerous times we discovered that she had an attractive daughter close to our ages. So we told the cougar that we were interested in her daughter. Her response was no way. The reason given was that we were too experienced and her daughter was a "good girl." Never mind that her daughter was on birth control and had an unemployed boyfriend who visited her at home alone while her mother was at work. She insisted that the daughter was still a virgin. She then asked us if we could hire the unemployed boyfriend. Of course, we did not and had a good laugh. We found it hypocritical and highly amusing that this old cougar wanted to keep her daughter "chase" while attempting to put mileage on our young bodies with her old dusty rug. As far as she was concerned her daughter deserved someone who was inexperienced while we deserved someone twice our age with two kids and a menopausal pussy.
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[QUOTE=Chocha Monger]I don't think this will be a new entitlement at all. Many AW already believe that dining on tenders shoots is their right. I recall a cougar that pursued a buddy and I. She was probably old enough to be our mother. After turning down her aggressive advances numerous times we discovered that she had an attractive daughter close to our ages. So we told the cougar that we were interested in her daughter. Her response was no way. The reason given was that we were too experienced and her daughter was a "good girl." Never mind that her daughter was on birth control and had an unemployed boyfriend who visited her at home alone while her mother was at work. She insisted that the daughter was still a virgin. She then asked us if we could hire the unemployed boyfriend. Of course, we did not and had a good laugh. We found it hypocritical and highly amusing that this old cougar wanted to keep her daughter "chase" while attempting to put mileage on our young bodies with her old dusty rug. As far as she was concerned her daughter deserved someone who was inexperienced while we deserved someone twice our age with two kids and a menopausal pussy.[/QUOTE]
LOL, you said "Dusty Rug"
It is hypocritical, like I said its in reverse... Younger women often times want even younger or inexperienced men so they can take advantage of them. You should hear it spun by some women. On Plentyoffish, one lady even pointed out something Frank Kaiser said about older women.
I actually cringed when I read it because it does give Carte Blanche to those "Pass Their Due Date"
For every Demi Moore there's thousand of saggy, tore up looking women around here age. Black/Asian/Latino women age well but still, why should I do that?
Personal Sites are dominated by women between 30-45, this is the fall out from our 80% divorce rate.
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Why Bang 40 Year Olds
'cause you're super horny regardless of age, and get "peer pressured" not to chase the young p*ssy.
i don't give a f*ck about age: i only care if the p*ssy is good or not!
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[QUOTE]— San Diego Chargers star outside linebacker Shawne Merriman (FSY) said he did not harm reality TV star Tila Tequila at his home early Sunday and added he was concerned for her safety because she appeared to be intoxicated.
Merriman was arrested and accused of choking and throwing Tequila to the ground as she tried to leave his home in suburban Poway. Tequila signed a citizen's arrest warrant charging Merriman with battery and false imprisonment. Both are felonies.
"At the time, I was concerned about her welfare given the intoxicated state she appeared to be in and I encouraged her to stay until safe transportation could be provided," Merriman said in the statement. "We would all do our best to help a friend if we considered their actions to be detrimental to their personal safety.
"I in no way caused any harm to Ms. Nguyen, however, paramedics were called and she was examined but no injuries were reported," the statement continued.
"It's kind of a tough situation where you think you're doing the right thing," Merriman said Monday. "I'm glad that everyone was safe at the end of the day. I don't think I will regret that part."
Nightclub owner says Tequila is lying about not drinking before Merriman incident
[url]http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/chargers/2009-09-07-shawne-merriman_N.htm[/url] [/QUOTE]
Two things trouble me about this incident. First, Tequila was examined by paramedics and found to have no injuries. Second, the Night Club owner clearly states the scorned b*i*t*c*h*, Tequila, was lying about not drinking before the incident. To those of you who have your heads in your asses, when it comes to your blind support of AW, here's more proof about those lying, scheming American winches.
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[quote=meat loaf]'cause you're super horny regardless of age, and get "peer pressured" not to chase the young p*ssy.
i don't give a f*ck about age: i only care if the p*ssy is good or not![/quote]
you got that right!!!! imho, a dick that has not seen action for many years would be pleased with a 100+yr old pussy.