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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1661223]"The choices one makes. Dictates the life we lead" seems you chose poorly. Choose your women wisely that you marry.
I can't speak to your situation as we are only hearing one side. Which is clearly bias.
No one states every man gets a fair outcome. Of course. Some will get screwed. But that is not the woman's fault. Its the system and both signed up for it.
In fact. The man. Went out bought an expensive ring and asked her to marry him. And then you blame the woman. Get serious.
Whether or not he gets screwed in the end. He knew ahead of time what can happen. And he. The man asked the aw to get married.
Man up and take some responsibility for your decisions. Right its her fault. She pussy whipped you and made you do it.
Tg865[/QUOTE]ThatGuy is absolutely right. This is why I am a domestic MGTOW (Man going his own way) and an international monger. I will never blame a woman for stealing half of my stuff or making me pay alimony or child support. Because I refuse to have sex with these women and I will never have children or get married. I refuse to one night stand women or have a girlfriend or live with a woman. I want nothing to do with these women; I only have sex when there is money involved. I understand that these are rather extremists measures but being a millennial with 2015 rapidly approaching I cannot take any chances. I am sure ThatGuy will support everything I am saying unless he wants to be labeled a hypocrite. For myself I really believe these women have no choice but to take advantage of the biased laws and current societal standards. I honestly do not believe woman have the cognitive reasoning ability or the compassion to overcome their biological precursors that beckon her to filet a man emotionally, psychologically, and financially. I do not adhere to the modern notion that men and women are the same. In my opinion getting angry at woman for betraying a man is like getting angry at a toddler for spilling his milk, it is pointless and irrational. So then what is a man oppressed by the current feminist, socialist, politically correct regime supposed to do? Fucking leave, quit this captain save a chick persona. If they want to play that game then, no more husbands, dates, free dinners, boyfriends, shoulders to cry on. Leave these responsibilities to white knights and ThatGuy865. Focus on the reason this forum exists, paying for pussy. And I am sure 90% of the West and many guys here would disagree with this idea, but please someone tell me what is so great about dating these women in the West. What benefit is there, why does the mysticism of fucking non-pro Western girls persist. How many formerly married guys wished they had bought pros from the start? How many of you reading this right now think their lives would have been better if they would have just paid upfront out of hand instead of later out of ass. If enough guys say fuck this I am going to DR, PHIL, COL, BRZ, THAI, sooner or later these women will come crawling back begging. But it will be too late. Or maybe there are enough white knights and ThoseGuys8065's to go around for Western women, either way I know I am over the hill happy with the path I have chosen for my life. But with all the articles about depression among women, I cannot say the same for the ladies of the western world. In the end women need good men and men just need a good GFE.
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[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1661357]If enough guys say fuck this I am going to DR, PHIL, COL, BRZ, THAI, sooner or later these women will come crawling back begging. But it will be too late.[/QUOTE]Ha. You keep dreaming. If that happens then the guys will just turn those women into the ones they claim to be trying to get away from. I have seen it too many times. You guys make everything about money then get pissed when reality becomes just that. Go on any of these threads and you will see, "Well she wasn't a hooker, but I gave her a "gift" of x amount before she left."
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QUOTE from SeizeTheDay: How many formerly married guys wished they had bought pros from the start? A: All of them that I know. The male amongst most species in the animal kingdom is a serial [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] who takes what he wants, when he wants it and how he wants it. Homo sapiens in America the vast majority of males have allowed themselves to be psychologically castrated. Just my. 02. I don't pretend to be an expert on this. Never married and considered a genius by my married to AW buddies.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1661362]Ha. You keep dreaming. If that happens then the guys will just turn those women into the ones they claim to be trying to get away from. I have seen it too many times. You guys make everything about money then get pissed when reality becomes just that. Go on any of these threads and you will see, "Well she wasn't a hooker, but I gave her a "gift" of x amount before she left."[/QUOTE]Agreed.
There are to many guys overseas trying to do things by western standards and getting royaly fucked for it. It is like they never learn and continue to be the same limp dick he was in the US getting financially raped by women.
I say leave them in the west. Too many guys like that could fuck it up for the rest of us.
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Yeehaw!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1661362]Ha. You keep dreaming. If that happens then the guys will just turn those women into the ones they claim to be trying to get away from. I have seen it too many times. You guys make everything about money then get pissed when reality becomes just that. Go on any of these threads and you will see, "Well she wasn't a hooker, but I gave her a "gift" of x amount before she left."[/QUOTE]We agree. When I stated those countries, I was referring to going there for mongering purposes only. To each his own I say but I would never advocate the pursuit of non-pros. I am just not a fan of that route. I do not see the desire to go outside the West for non-pros either, as you and TellAll mentioned these guys fuck it up anyway. A financial mark is a mark regardless of the country he is in. I think the non-pro route is futile because women everywhere are the same even though women everywhere are nothing alike. By this I mean that in general heterosexual males and females share the same biological instincts relative to their gender. Men all over the planet in general have the instinct to dominate, protect their family and fuck. Women all over the planet in general have the instinct to have children, nurture their children, procreate with men that possess the best genetics, and extract resources from men. Where women differ is the extent to which a woman can manifest her biological impulses is directly proportional to the society in which she resides, whether it is matriarchal or patriarchal. Western society is matriarchal which gives women freedom to do as they please. Someone in this thread recently called America conservative I agree only in pertinence to men. No one complains about women gathering to get railroaded night after night at nightclubs. Single mothers are looked upon as the strong pillars of society. It is only men that are constrained in the sexuality. For example I dragged my sister to see Gone Girl (A film I highly recommend to all heterosexual nonwhite knight men.) and during the promos for future films up pops the "filthy shades of grey filth" promo. Some introverted chick that wants to be gagged, tied like a hog, blindfolded, strangled, and fucked right there for Grammy and Grandpa to see. How the fuck is that conservative? But all in all I agree with you. Some guys are trying to turn non-pros into pros without even knowing it. Either be her S&M buckaroo and lasso the chick or just keep it simple and pay for the pussy.
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She woke up. Too late for her, but she finally woke the f*ck up.
[URL]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/yourtango/7-huge-mistakes-i-made-as_b_6355374.html[/URL]
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Oh Man!
[QUOTE=TellAll;1660275]Don't forget the most important fact. When you get rid of an AW, any secret you told her that can hurt you becomes public knowledge. She will even make shit up if it can cause you problems. She will do this even if she gets what she wants in a split.
Sometimes it even cost them and they don't seem to care.[/QUOTE]This is so, so true! This is how AW are! I asked a good female friend about it who explained to me why. You see, women are emotional beings, and what they want to do is get at you emotionally. They don't just want your money. They see things differently. The way a woman does. Which means that want to harm your emotions as well as take your money. Only then are they satisfied. Money + emotional distress = female vengeance!
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Naive!
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1660517]Unfortunately it is NOT the view of men who made the rules. When a woman stays at home. It is not only by her choice it is a mutual agreement. Therefore the man also agreed that her part in the relationship would be the handling of the "Home" responsibilities. Basically the man is agreeing that her half of the responsibility of the "Contract of Marriage" signed by both the woman and man is the home. I'm no AW advocate. I just don't believe any one country has better than women than another.[/QUOTE]This strikes me as incredibly naive! Do you know how many guys I know who complain and skulk about their lazy, fat ass wives not only refusing to work but not doing jack shit around the house either? A prime reason for divorce is money (typically not having enough of it). Too many AW want to sit back on their lazy hind parts and expect the man to do every fucking thing! And it's not all by "agreement" as you suggest.
And by the way, what "signed contract of marriage" are you referring to that says the man and the woman agree that she stays at home? I didn't know there were such standard written contractual obligations in all marriages that demonstrated a meeting of the minds between husband and wife about who stays home and who gets their ass up every morning and goes to a job. You just lost a lot of credibility making an assertion as silly as that one dude.
You say you're not an AW advocate, but I've read several of your posts and you sure come across like one, just like in this post you made, which is pretty devoid of reality and the way many people are actually leading their married lives, along with the conflicts they face that threaten their marital unions. These situations (women not wanting to work or do anything at all) contribute to the failure of marriages. She doesn't want to work, but she really needs to in order to support the family. This is more common than you apparently realize. How unbelievably naive and biased your view as stated here! Wow.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1662537]She woke up. Too late for her, but she finally woke the f*ck up.
[URL]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/yourtango/7-huge-mistakes-i-made-as_b_6355374.html[/URL][/QUOTE]She did all that BS but as she said she's not looking for forgiveness. I dare say there were probably more issues she doesn't mention. I applaud him for getting the fuck out and finding a little happiness.
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It's Amazing!
I've dated a number of women over the years who had been in failed marriages and bad relationships before they met me. We'd get to talking about our pasts, and I can honestly say that not a one of them ever took any responsibility for their failed relationships with men! Not one! It was always the guy's fault. I would ask in a non-threatening way if they thought that maybe they might have done anything at all to contribute to the problem. The answer was always, "No, I didn't do anything wrong at all". And what was so hilarious about it is that I would date these women for just two weeks and see all kinds of things that they did wrong to chase men away, including me! Two weeks! LMAO!
Oh I would actually stick around for longer than the two weeks (usually), but eventually for whatever reason my dates with these women would come to an end. Sometimes, but not always, maybe there was some kind of falling out about something or another. I guess that got me added to the shit list too LOL! You know, they would get mad and talk about how they had been married before and been in relationships and blah, blah, blah. Well the operative word was "been" because as I would remind them, they were in marriages and relationships that failed! Then how about throwing a little fuel on the fire by telling them that I would take my advice on how to have a successful marriage or a lasting serious relationship from somebody who had actually had one of those. Hahaha! Oh man, they would become livid then! But, I was just speaking the truth. The hurtful truth. And they knew it. I'll take the sex lady, but I say bunk to marriage! Thank you very much!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1662890] I can honestly say that not a one of them ever took any responsibility for their failed relationships...[/QUOTE]I think some could say the same for some of the men on this thread!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1662890] I would ask in a non-threatening way if they thought that maybe they might have done anything at all to contribute to the problem. The answer was always, "No, I didn't do anything wrong at all".[/QUOTE]Hmmm, curious.
I've had the exact same conversation with my male divorced / divorcing / wish they could divorce but for the kids friends and they all say exactly the same thing as your female interviewees.
The can't all be right (or wrong), can they?
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1663214]The can't all be right (or wrong), can they?[/QUOTE]I personally accept 50% of the fault for the failure of my marriage. Your half the problem. In many cases, a married couple are two idiots that deserve each other. Marriage is one of the worst institutions in modern society, that takes way too much work and money. I also personally think that having kids is waaay overrated. The vast majority in the US can't afford them, they will be educated by a failed education system, and parents are being forced by societal rules on how to raise them. The smart money goes toward a very early vasectomy, combined with lifelong trips to DR, Brazil, Colombia, etc.
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Also most women are undercover hookers anyway[/QUOTE]I took this from the Sosua forum. It somewhat backs up your belief in this. The conversation was between a Senior Member who banged a chick in Cuba who was not a prostitute, and another Senior Member who thinks she should have been compensated for the time she spent with Senior Member A:
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1663509]Aside from you paying for dinner and liquor for everybody, did you give Anna any money or compensation for all of that time she spent with you? I mean before you left Cuba to go home? If not, I can see how she might feel she has to make up for not getting compensated for her time.
Had you worked out any arrangement or discussed anything about compensating her? Probably not! Throughout your time with Anna, even if she never point blank asked you for money, did she ever discuss with you areas where she needs things or money? Not asking directly, but telling you some of her life problems and needs? Moreover, You haven't been with this women for months or years. How likely would it be that eventually you were going to learn as much as she wanted you to know about her shortcomings in life, and where one could help if they wanted to?
What is interesting to me, is that even though she didn't ask for anything while you were together, she didn't waste any time getting around to being direct after you left. A question arises from that; is her not asking for anything when you were together as impressive to you now, since she finally came out and asked directly? For me, I would regard my 1st impression as just me not knowing the girl was playing the waiting game. Not that she really didn't want anything from me. She did want something from me all along. She was just fulfilling my fantasy and not destroying the vibe. Maybe she was hoping for compensation before you left without having to ask. Many young women expect that from dudes older than them.[/QUOTE]See? No reason to have a girlfriend or to get married ANYWHERE in the world. If non-hookers expect you to compensate them for the time you spend with them, why not just use that same money with an Escort or Pro? At least Senior Member A (Mr. Gogo) got some ass at the end of the night from the chica in Cuba. AW's expect you to pick up the tab on multiple dates, and even then there's no guarantee she'll put out. Money and time wasted on AW's and Non Pros (in other countries). They are all undercover hookers anyway, hahaha.
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Hocus Pocus Focus
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1663533]See? No reason to have a girlfriend or to get married ANYWHERE in the world. If non-hookers expect you to compensate them for the time you spend with them, why not just use that same money with an Escort or Pro? At least Senior Member A (Mr. Gogo) got some ass at the end of the night from the chica in Cuba. AW's expect you to pick up the tab on multiple dates, and even then there's no guarantee she'll put out. Money and time wasted on AW's and Non Pros (in other countries). They are all undercover hookers anyway, hahaha.[/QUOTE]One time I had a date overseas with a woman I had met through an online dating site (not a P4 P thing). We got together for dinner and had a generally pleasant good time. I thought the first date (turned out to be the last) went OK. I paid for dinner, and once we got outside she turns to me and asks for money! I asked her why I should give her some cash money, and she says "because it's a holiday" and "for my time". Now that pissed me off! I paid for her dinner, and what the hell about my time? Was that not worth anything!
Just to test her out, I asked her how much money she wanted. She said "whatever you want to give me. " I told her "no" and that I was not going to give her anything! I then excused myself to go do a little bit of grocery shopping (and obviously never intending to call her again). After I left the grocery store, I saw her sitting on a nearby bench frantically texting on her cell phone. She was so engrossed in what she was doing that she didn't see me pass by. A few days later she sent me a message on the dating site saying that she enjoyed meeting me and apologized for asking for money. I blocked her ass to make sure I would never hear from her again! And I didn't. Some people!