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"Western" women is much to broad of a term.
I personally love the physical attributes of western women, which is why I can't avoid them.
Simply avoid American, and UK women. All other western women generally speaking have fun disposition and a very sexy body to match. At least the younger women. Of course you will run into a few apples anywhere.
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Gentlemen,
A Forum buddy (11Bravo) sent me this, and although it could be termed humor, it sort of sums up the "American women" attitude. I hope you enjoy it.
Cheers,
Sporadic
[i]Subject: Men Never Learn
Due to inherit a fortune when his sickly, widower father died, Charles decided he needed a woman to enjoy it with. Going to a singles' bar, he spotted a woman whose beauty took his breath away.
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"I'm just an ordinary man," he said, walking up to her, "but in just a month or two, my father will die and I'll inherit 20 million dollars."
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The woman went home with Charles, and the next day she became his stepmother.
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Men will never learn.[/i]
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My Bretheren:
Upon further reading of the aforementioned site, I came upon ANOTHER incredible whopper of a bullshit lie. There is this chick that posted her expectations in a man, and the more I read, the more I deperately searched for my hip waders. The site said (with some accuracy, I will concur) that this is a typical American woman. Upon reviewing this info (after I provide the link) observe how it's ALL about HER and that there's NO hint of compromise whatsoever. FACT: when a guy exhibits these qualities, the woman then thinks that he's too easy a conquest and then gets bored with him. She will then think that he has no spine and will search for a "real man" (a man she CAN'T control). So, her Mr. Sensitive will eventually turn out to be the PERFECT repellant and drive her AWAY. This list that she provides is the perfect recipe to REPEL her, whether she knows it or not. What's so bad is that if she ever DOES meet up with this guy (never gonna happen) she won't acknowledge that she spoke half-truths the ENTIRE time!
What astounds me about all this BS about American women is how they're like SPIDERS; they lure a guy in with visuals and promises of whats to come, but when they've landed the poor fly (guy) in the web, they consume him with unrealistic demands, whining, the imposing of doublespeak (and double standards) and other shit that makes a guy view his situation as a living death. Also, to make the Deathblow COMPLETE, they let themselves GO (getting outrageously FAT and refusing to meaningfully contribute to the relationship) and accuse the fly of being shallow because he isn't happy that he is now married to a soul-sucking hippopotamus instead of the hot-looking sex fiend he originally married.
Here is the link my brothers:
http://www.nomarriage.com/perfectguy.html
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Sinanju Master,
It goes without saying the this Rachel women will probably remain a spinster all her life. Her list, though somewhat repetitive, rings a number of bells from many a chica I have known…
What do you think: all relations dating back to the Mayflower pilgrims? LOL.
Regards, Havanaman
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I too, read the profile from the nomarriage site regarding "Rachel". I've noticed that women on these dating sites generally fall into one of three different categories. 1 - very picky. 2 - Desperate. 3 - Baggage (of the emotional variety).
This Rachel obviously falls into the first category. IMO, she would likely be prone to overanalysing every single thing the guy does and says. No wonder she has to try and find a guy by using a dating site. I bet every guy within a 20 mile radius is avoiding her like the plague!
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Question to anybody willing to enlight foreigner moved recently and living in States.
It probably was asked on this forum but this forum is huge and event described below happened in DC.
Since I wasn't born in North America I have trouble with eye contact meanings in USA and how it depends on location where it was received. One girl sitting in company of 4 other girls inside of cafe made one short term eye contact with me. I was sitting alone. Then a 10-15 min later made second long one. What did she want? I was puzzled and didn't do any move. I must note that was cafe with 50/50 foreign/local born people. May be she was a foreigner because I know that in north america nobody gives eye contact especially female unless they want something from you. It would be different in other countries. For instance, in Eastern Europe described above behavior of the girl would mean nothing special.
In general over there I'm making and receiving hundreds eye contacts a day with women of doable age and not having a word and not having sex with one of them . I'm talking about street, official organization, night clubs,public transportation, social interaction etc. Sexual conatation comes later in conversation.
Thanks in advance.
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Overheard On the Train
Two decent looking white chicks- The Chelsea Clinton looking one saying how she's seeing or dating a guy, attractive, intelligent, but he seems to overanxious and interrupted her a few times and she don't like that. This immediately followed up by a comment that he works in sales for blank blank big company and has an apt in ---(rich neighborhood in Manhattan). So the tone of her saying that seemed to make up for her not liking his unpardonable interrupting habit. Then one of them saying they went on a first date and the guy showed up in shorts (with cargo pockets) and she was horrified and tried to hide in the crowd.
Now if any guy I know says some bs like that to me about not liking a chick because she seems overanxious, he's definitely gonna get the business from me most definitely. What I can't stand about these picky American woman is that nothing is perfect enough for them. One chick somewhere said "but he always says the wrong thing". To them there is an secret way to act they think all men must abide by. Unless you have money or stardom, then it is ok for you to be as much of an asshole as possible and get away with it.
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Cargo Shorts? I just bought a couple of pairs of cargo shorts. What the fuck is wrong with cargo shorts now? Ah screw women if they don't like them anyways. There're great for mongering trips. Digital camera, Spanish dictionary, wallet in the front pocket, knife, flashlight, pen, note pad, lots of extra condoms etc. I call them mongering pants.
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[b]Klitchkov[/b]:[quote]One girl sitting in company of 4 other girls inside of cafe made one short term eye contact with me. I was sitting alone. Then a 10-15 min later made second long one. What did she want? I was puzzled and didn't do any move.[/quote]She wanted your money. ;)
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Klitchkov,
She wanted you to go over and start talking to her and them. It would have been real akward to go over and start trying to be the Casanova with 4 women scrutinizing everything you say and do not to mention how you look. This is how they expect to meet men. Been in this situation a couple times. One chick called me after a month and asked me to come over her house. When I arrived her house was packed with friends of hers who asked me a million questions. Another time a dates friend materialized like magic and started quizzing me and told me I lost a point because I got the main language of Nigeria wrong! Women in America can't make decisions on their own about guys and need friends to tell them what to do. Remember how Pam Anderson met Tommy Lee? He crashed her table and started licking her face without even knowing her.
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Mike12
well said. I totally understand and agree with what you said below.
Are you anywhere nearby NYC, NJ? How good is the scene here?
Thanks
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Klitchkov,
Sporadic is probably right - she probably wanted your money, but it's possible that you were doing something she perceived as being "rude" (like breathing, or sitting at the table she wanted, or looking at her, or scratching yourself, or - well, the list is just too long when dealing with American women) - actually saying something to you about your behavior could be interpreted as "road rage" (cafe rage?), but glaring at you and flaming you in her mind is apparently socially acceptable.
Bernard - oops - Dran Reb,
After my experience yesterday, I have a new-found appreciation of cargo pockets (got pick pocketed while receiving a BJ - If my cash was sealed in a cargo pocket, this would have been much more difficult - but she was a very talented pick-pocket, so she may have succeeded anyway).
Mike12,
The guy she was describing is probably in a fairly high-stress job and would probably want an occassional moment of silence. One thing I've noticed more and more frequently over the last decade is that American women are becoming intolerable motor mouths - like they're all overdosing on Caffiene or something. Sprint PCS had a commercial that illustrated this perfectly with a little girl who was talking at about 5000 words per minute while braiding everyone's hair - you may have seen it. I reckon that he interrupted her, quite possibly, "non-sensical diatribe about nothing in particular" with the intention of pissing her off so that she would shut up and stew for a 30 seconds, thus giving him his much needed few moments of "quiet time".
CW
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It seems to me that sex in North America is basically the whole "look but don't touch" philosophy. Girls get all dolled up and they're programmed to shut-down direct sexual advances.
In Europe and South America sexuality is the essence of man-woman relationships. Here, its all behind closed doors.I don't even see many displays of public affection. Sometimes I see people holding hands but thats it. It's like sex is supposed to be a huge "secret" thing that goes on.
Why does it have to be secret? Why do the women here feel they need to hide all their desires until they get to the bedroom?You go to a South American country, women are openly affectionate and sexual. They don't hide their desires like the women do in North America.
Even in Montreal, Canada. You'll see a difference there and other places. The simple act of "cheek kisses" as a greeting sets the tone for more sexuality. We need to embrace our sexuality more. Not hide it. All these "disinterest" tactics are too complicated for me. They give me a headache and make me overthink what i'm trying to accomplish.
I'm pretty sure I'm gonna move my ass to a more sexually liberated country at some point(In another life). A place where women don't have so much hidden sexual power.
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Asia is probably even better than Europe or South America, Asian women seem to have the lowest maintenance cost. Frankly, the best looking Asian women never see America's shores, they all seem to prefer to live in their own countries. I spent a vacation in Hong Kong and Maucau and saw some of the finest looking women I have ever seen in my life.
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CBGBConnisur,
you definitely know what you're talking about. I've been to Vietnam and got a sore neck from turning to look at all the FINE young women. They seemed to be everywhere I looked. Slim, petite asian girls riding around on scooters, working in stores or just walking down the street. It truly seems to me that the average girl in one of these countries is far superior in both looks and attitude. North american women tend to look like livestock by comparison. Livestock with a whole bunch of insecurities, selfish attitudes and conflicting desires.
I think about this all the time. It occurs to me that the women here are all mixed up because of all the mixed messages they get from the media while they are growing up. On one side, you have nature, and the way things are meant to be. On the other side, you have political correctness, "sexual equality", womens lib and all the other crazy Oprah-style crap thats been fed to them for the last 20 or 30 years.
Me, I pretty much gave up on these women about 6 or 7 years ago. I generally go for non-white women who are recent immigrants. It's like a breath of fresh air! I've had the most enjoyable and successful relationships with them. These women just plain make sense.
Anyways, my 2 cents worth.