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Well, I have met Moore and he does speak good Spanish. I have successfully expatriated myself and I think the following are keys:
1) Language skills. I speak good Spanish and some French. You need to research your areas of choice and learn the language [b]before[/b] you show up there!
2) Portable job skills. This is a tough one. If you are a white collar professional, you will find that many of your skills don't transfer. You may need a more blue-collar type of skill. In my case I am a skilled cook, can operate a variety of heavy equipment, and am a landscaper.
3) Cultural knowledge. You'll likely not fit into the society you move to if you don't know anything about its history, for example.
4) Patience, flexibility, and initially reduced expectations. You'll be uncomfortable at times, lonely at times, and frustrated at times. How will you handle this? Will you cut and run back to the US or whatever your home country is at the first sign of problems, or will you give the situation some time to develop?
5) Some money saved up. This may seem obvious but you will not be increasing your Social Security benefits while living abroad, in most cases. At some point you will be old. Once your dick can no longer get hard it might or might not be worth it to live abroad any more. You may need to move back to the US, Canada, or wherever you are from at that point and eating cat food would not be a fun thing in your dotage. So I am talking about money saved up that you [b]never touch[/b] while you are an ex-pat.
6) Guts. Balls. A sense of adventure. The ability to make a decision and never look back, only forward.
México, while it may be the easiest for Americans and Canadians, is far from the best. And I love México. It is just that it is sexually conservative and not that cheap any more. And, you cannot drink the water. The poster who talked about commuting from TJ to San Diego I am sure had a good deal given his situation, but these border towns are not really México. The central highlands of México are awesome. San Luis Potosí, for example.
However definitely avoid Argentina. Crime is rampant, the women are fat, and the country is overrun with rats and bugs of all kinds.
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Dickhead, are you sure you are referring to Argentina? If that was a description of Brazil, I would believe it but not Argentina.
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That was a joke. I just don't want any more fucking gringos coming down here and messing everything up.
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I'm sorry for you Dickhead but I think that the gringo invasion is inevitable. Eventually there will be so many gringos that the price of real estate and pussy will sky-rocket. History tends to repeat itself in many places, for example Costa Rica. Puerto Rico is a really extreme case of the results of this pattern. The island is not a state but it might as well be. The women there are almost bad as the ones on the mainland US except that they look better inspite of all the fast food joints on every corner.
Think of Argentina as California during the gold rush. However, prospectors are searching for a different kind of gold. If it is any consolation you can blame American women for pushing the gringo hordes ever further South. Now give me some tips on how to go about staking my claim on Argentina's pussy market before the other monger's price me out of a good deal! ;)
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Well, you want to learn to speak Portuguese which is the official language of Argentina. You also have to get used to living in a tropical climate. Most people won't be able to handle the spicy food here, either, so get used to that. Plus, you have to learn to get along with black people as Argentina is about 70% black. Buenos Aires still has mostly unpaved dirt streets with open sewers or "jubes" running through them, and the donkey and ox carts tend to make getting around very difficult. But it's fun seeing the indigenous people in their native garb, placidly carrying their laundry on their heads to go wash it in the river.
OK all that is bullshit too but please go to Costa Rica instead.
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[quote=Dickhead]OK all that is bullshit too but please go to Costa Rica instead.[/quote]
Dickhead,
Too late - I think you already fucked up (get ready for the Gringo invasion :) !)
Seriously, I don't think you have too much to worry about. From my experience, most Americans (while not entirely averse to visiting a foriegn locale) are a little too closed-minded to consider becoming an expatriate by choice (remember your [u]rule #6[/u]?). Or, in some cases, they're so ignorant of other cultures/countries that they have no idea of what they may be missing; you know as well as I do that a lot of people in the U.S. haven't had the opportunity to experience other cultures as we have (as an example, despite the proximity of San Diego to the international border you'd be surprised that more guys haven't taken advantage of the situation the way I did; I was sort of a rarity, actually).
So don't worry - most of the Gringoes will probably stay home by uninformed choice.
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"From my experience, most Americans are a little too closed-minded to consider becoming an expatriate by choice. Or, in some cases, they're so ignorant of other cultures/countries that they have no idea of what they may be missing"
Smut,
What they are missing may be quasi-legal SW's and low priced pussy, I'll grant you that. But try to earn a decent living in Mexico or Argentina or Ukraine. Good luck. There is a reason that people wait in line or risk their lives just to get to the US. Economic opportunity, stability, freedom. I don't want to be the "I Love the USA" cheerleader, but I have been to TJ quite a few times. Call me crazy, but I would still prefer to live here. I like to drink the water. But even if I didn't, the opportunity to get ahead, support one's family and earn some serious cash is going to decide the day for most . . .
_P
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Freedom
The degree of freedom I experience now is far, far, FAR greater than the degree of freedom I experienced in the United States, which is rapidly becoming a fundamentalist theocracy.
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here, here
So true DH. Since 9/11, laws have changed that IMHO change the character of American freedom.
The fundamentalist wave, though nothing new, has moved into the political area like never before. The "moral majority" of the early eighties was nothing more than a taste, a tiny taste of what is happening now. Scary, very scary.
Where I now live (Europe), I have to carry a national ID card, and the police have powers to stop you on the street or in your car without probable cause. Guess what? They only bother "troublemaker types." The John Q. Citizens never get bothered.
Who is more "free?"
Cheers,
Sporadic
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Troublemaker types
"the police have powers to stop you on the street or in your car without probable cause. Guess what? They only bother troublemaker types" . . .
Well, that could put me in possible jeopardy. And Dickhead for damn sure.
While a want the freedom to buy some pussy or smoke a joint, I also want the chance to have a decent job or start a business. Or drink the water for that matter . . .
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troublemakers
Pro, let me clarify.
When I said troublemakers, I was talking about very shady types... the kind that would get extra attention in any airport immigration queue. I am not talking about t-shirts, or long hair, but unkempt. Not unshaven, but unwashed.
Begging in the street, obviously shit-faced at 9am, slept in the gutter kind of "troublemakers." Any reasonable person, certainly anyone with the disposable income for p4p would not qualify.
Cheers,
Sporadic
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Well, sometimes I am shit faced at 9 AM but that's only when I'm on my way HOME. Anyway down here you can get laid for $6 US if you want to so it doesn't take a whole lot of disposable income to monger. BTW I have had zero contact with cops in the 14 months I've lived here but in México they definitely can and [b]do[/b] stop you and search you with no probable cause. That happened to me in Guadalajara in 2004 and no, I wasn't drunk, and no, I wasn't mongering.
Actually there are some pretty hot looking female cops here. Nicely made up, cute hairdos, a little jewelry, not like the [b]fucking bull dyke macho ball busting pit bull female AMERICAN WOMEN cops[/b].
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Mc
Multiple comments
1st I think we should be on another thread since this is the American Women section.
2nd I agree with DHs last post, which at least partially pertains to the proper subject. I have sprained my neck a few times looking at female cops in Buenos Aires.
3rd Prokofiev, right on. The US may suck in some fundamental ways but theres no doubt where Id go as an immigrant looking for the best overall prospects for my family and I, the USA, like my grandparents did.
4th Smut Villian, are there any sexy non-indigenous women in Mexico other than movie stars, pop stars, and rare decendants of ancient Spanish colonies that "actually have European bloodlines" (lets talk about the common women you see all day everywhere in the street for a second)? I havent watched Univision lately so I dont know who Cristina is. Pretty sad when you have to think of soap operas and MTV to come up with a "mexican" (isnt Shakira Colombian?) woman that you wouldnt have to headdress with a grocery bag. To me the point of relocating is to go to a place overridden with attractive sexual women (ie supply far exceeds demand). I just never saw that in Mexico anywhere. Its the worst country I believe Ive ever visited for women, although well-travelled colleages have told me that Bolivia is worse.
5th Argentina will never be Puerto Rico or Costa Rica. Its simply to far away for that to happen, which has been proven well my many other great places that have existed for many years. See other threads for more posts.
M
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Shakira is indeed Colombian, born in Barranquilla. I love México. It is deep in my heart and in my soul and I have been going there since I was six years old. However, it is chronicly fucked for reasons that are very complex to explain, upon which I have expounded in earlier posts. [b]But and importantly[/b], although the [b]average[/b] quality in México is fairly low, [b][i]some[/i] of the most beautiful women on the planet[/b] can be found there. Just so fucking gorgeous that when you look into the liquid pool of their eyes, you melt clean away like the tigers in "Little Black Sambo." And to fuck a Méxican chica takes the time and patience that I once had before I discovered South America where pussy is on a rack by the door. Catholicism is a serious thing in this country. But once they give it up, IME, they give it [b]all[/b] up; heart, soul, pussy (ass not really but homey don't go there), and they are [b]loyal[/b]. However, being loyal also means they are [b]jealous as hell[/b]; it's unbelievable.
But as Moore points out, this is the [b]American[/b] Women thread. So, in conclusion, I would state that the average American woman could not fuck her way out of a dry cleaning bag. In contrast, Méxican women have handed down through the ages an excellent pussy control that they will only show you if they actually like you. Otherwise, they just lie there. And yeah, they would rather fuck than suck.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead]That was a joke. I just don't want any more fucking gringos coming down here and messing everything up.[/QUOTE]
I don't have any plans to live in Argentina, currently I'm in Australia and am very happy here, Australia's got all of the comforts of the US but the women are not as prudish as American females, especially towards sex. I could get laid buying a couple of beers for a 20 year old blonde Elle lookalike. For obvious reasons, leaving the US and moving to another country is not an option for many. I tried Europe and wound up severely dissappointed(seeing a security guard in a Budapest Supermarket with an AK-47, living in an apartment with no heat, sticking out like a pimple on a donkey's ass because I only speak English, etc.), they just don't accept foreigners over there, even Americans will have substantial hurdles to climb in order to live and work legally there. The economy is in the complete shits over there because of the overvalued Euro.