Crystal Mangum & Mike Nifong ~ The Twins Tips of the American Social Iceburg.
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Crystal Mangum & Mike Nifong ~ The Twins Tips of the American Social Iceburg.
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"admitted before the meeting that she had taken ambien, methadone, paxil and amitriptyline."
that combination ought to mess you up pretty good. i don't know what amitriptyline is but given the other three i don't think it matters too much. the phrase "nappy headed ho" comes to mind.
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1) [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124][CodeWord124][/url] that occur and are reported. these are heinous.
2) [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124][CodeWord124][/url] that occur and are not reported. these are heinous.
3) [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124][CodeWord124][/url] that don't occur and are reported. these are heinous.
4) [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124][CodeWord124][/url] that don't occur and are not reported. these are most guys' sex lives in the us.
so this nifong did one day in jail and this ho is still wandering around out there, trolling for victims. the ho is a waste of skin and this nifong should be doing a nickel upstate. he'd be somebody's ***** pretty quick, i am thinking.
always remember: you can't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] the willing. so monger as necessary, and do not force anyone to do anything they don't want to do. i would not be posting this except the system is down so i can't do any work, the local brothel has only fuglies at this hour, and my preferred destination will not open for another hour and a half. therefore i am forced, forced i tell you, to drink beer at 8:30 am. but no one has to coerce me to do so.
The Breeze Shifts, Duke President Now Sways The Other Way
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it is extremely risky business to mess around with an american woman, one call to the cops, and her words can land you in chino or fulsom state.
for better or worse, there are certainly a lot more things that pass for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] in the united states today than, say, 30 years ago.
things have apparently shifted culturally, too, since the 1960s. ignoring race, i'm pretty sure 50 years ago no court would have even heard the cases against kobe bryant or william kennedy smith - both situations where they met a woman in a bar for the first time and within minutes they were either alone with them in a hotel room or on the beach at night. it used to be this sort of behavior was just considered dumb for a non-working girl; people would assume the girl who engaged in it was working.
things are processed differently these days. personally, i would like to think a girl should be able to go for a walk on a beach with the stranger at night and expect to be safe. most people feel that way. but the real practical upshot of the legal and cultural changes of the past few years is that you get more girls like crystal mangum who turn a dispute over payment into a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] case. it's not much safer for women to be alone with guys they don't know (if anything, technology has had a much bigger impact in terms of making things safer than legal and cultural shifts - cameras everywhere, cell phones, dna evidence, etc.).
nearly all the most well-known [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] cases in the united states in recent history seem to confirm what feminists label the "myth" the that women falsify charges or that law enforcement falsifies evidence - kobe bryant, william kennedy smith, central park jogger case, tawana brawley and this duke case. the only well-known conviction that held i can think of is the mike tyson/desiree washington thing.
juries still end up at the same point they would have 50 years ago. realistically, it's just stupid to assume a woman who puts herself alone with a stranger is going into it blind. if it comes down to "he said, she said" in a courtroom, most guys, and many women, are going to wonder what the girl was thinking going up to the strangers hotel room. she might have ultimately said "no", but all the evidence implies "yes". we're supposed to throw a guy in jail for years for this?
the major difficulty with statutes concerning [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is that they treat every incident as an equal offense in the eyes of the law. consider two different sitations, both of which would result in the exact same penalty if convicted:
1. a man invites a woman for dinner. after dining, drinks, and a long makeout session, they retire to the bedroom, get undressed and engage in foreplay. upon the man nearing entry, the woman states "no, not tonight." in the absence of any physical resistance offered by the woman, the man proceeds to enter her.
2. a man breaks into a car, hides in the back seat, and then forces a woman to drive to the woods, where he proceeds to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] her.
these are hardly identical crimes, but they have identical consequences under the law. and the first scenario is much more common than the second one.
compare that to our laws concerning murder. there is murder in the first degree, second degree, and manslaughter, both voluntary and involuntary. thus, society recognizes four separate and distinct levels of culpability, as determined by the circumstances and intent.
however, under [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] law the offense is "all or none."
if my fellow feminists wished to straighten out the law to follow common sense and in turn achieve more convictions, they would work to define the different levels of the offense.
however, they will never do this, as it would undermine their theories that "no always means no," and that [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is always about power, and never about sex.
i think we all instinctively know that sometimes no means no, and sometimes it means the woman wants some more persuasion and foreplay first.
when i was married, my wife would often start with "no," but after i had sweet talked her and told her how much i loved her and needed her that night, she would often change her mind and we would proceed to have great sex.
my guess is that almost every man has had the experience of watching a woman's answer change from no to yes. alternately, he has also experienced a woman's answer change from yes to no.
it often depends on how smoothly things moved along (or didn't). and that is always going to make it extremely difficult for a jury consisting of people who have lived in the real world and who have an understanding of the nuances involved in relationships between the sexes.
if they have a conscience, these jurors are not likely to convict a man of so-called "date-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]" and lock him up just the same as if he had broken into the back seat of a car and laid in wait for an unsuspecting victim to arrive.
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the media was going to turn kobe bryant into the new michael jordan, but that case completely ruined his image, he lost all of his sponsorship contracts, he still has a professional basketball career but his image was nothing like it was before the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] case, maybe that's why shaq moved to miami? in general there is major male bashing going on, particularly against pro sports stars, look at michael vick. david beckham is an exception because he seems to coo the fems.
[quote=cbgbconnisur]the media was going to turn kobe bryant into the new michael jordan, but that case completely ruined his image, he lost all of his sponsorship contracts, he still has a professional basketball career but his image was nothing like it was before the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] case, maybe that's why shaq moved to miami? in general there is major male bashing going on, particularly against pro sports stars, look at michael vick. david beckham is an exception because he seems to coo the fems.[/quote]
michael vick deserves everything he gets. as for kobe, no one really knows what happened. i tend to think the truth was somewhere in the middle. he shoulda been more careful in any case.
truth is, us pro athletes have to be really careful. there are lots of women out there looking to have their babies or cry [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] when things don't go as they planned.
as for becks, he doesn't have to worry about anything since posh has him in her back pocket. he's been neutralized to paying the bills, just like a "good" boy should.
years ago a star got laid. so what that was part of his celebrity status. the sad thing now is the sorry little tart he screwed can get famous off his back. eg divine brown and hugh grant. so the natural evolution of the star getting laid is the star getting laid then being charged with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. we live in a society that is obsessed with fame. even paris hilton going to jail was on every station. it doesn't matter how you get famous as long as you are famous. so if a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] complaint gets you famous alot of girls will look at that favourably.
i'm quite sure that some cases are definitely [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and some case aren't. the ones that aren't are the saddest.
i have a vision of the future with date contracts being signed before dates, much like a pre nuptial before marriage.
although i don't want to be trying to date when this happens.
The Garden, Nicks Deemed Dysfunctional, Hostile and Lewd
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/02/sports/basketball/03garden-cnd.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin[/url]
by mike celizic
todayshow.com contributor
updated: 11:32 a.m. ct oct 3, 2007
like many men, toby byrum decided to have a vasectomy to end his reproductive years. unlike most of them, byrum had his at the age of 28 while he is still single and childless.
two years later, the web consultant from jackson hole, wyoming, has no regrets.
“i view the next 15-20 years of my life as some of the best years i’m going to live. i wanted to make sure those years were . . . going to make me ultimately the happiest person i could be,” he told today co-host matt lauer.
he’s not alone. urologists around the country say that they are seeing a small but growing number of young men who are deciding to have vasectomies when they are young, all but insuring that they will never be able to have children of their own.
“it’s kind of getting to be a departure from this society – a wife, a husband, have kids, live in the suburbs, – and instead is more, ‘maybe we don’t want to have kids,’ “ byrum said.
what makes byrum different from most men who undergo the procedure at such a young age is that he did not ‘bank' sperm before having his vas deferens – the tubes that convey sperm from the testicles – severed in a 20-minute out-patient surgical procedure.
“for me, it’s an ultimate decision, and therefore i did not want an escape hatch,” byrum said.
young, good-looking, and out-going, byrum leads an active life, enjoys the outdoors and hopes to get married some day. he said he likes children; he just doesn’t want any of his own.
the 'ultimate' decision
he doesn’t hide his decision from women he dates.
“the first date, if not before,” he said. “i live in a small area, so some people are already aware of this. i bring it up quickly. there’s no reason to waste anybody’s time. if someone has a different idea for themselves, i don’t want to get in the way.”
in second today segment with natalie morales, in which he responded to viewer email questions, byrum admitted that for some women, the news is an automatic deal-breaker. but he’d rather know that from the start rather than continue a relationship under false assumptions on either side.
morales said she was surprised that many women who emailed supported and approved of his decision.
byrum is the only male child in his family, and if he does not reproduce, the family line will die out. lauer asked if that was a consideration.
“after thinking about it, it really isn’t a factor to me in wanting to have kids or not,” byrum said. in a pre-interview, he added that he thought that having a child simply to continue his legacy would be selfish.
he said he felt early in his 20s that he didn’t want to ever have children, but took several years to make certain he wanted to make a decision that is not easily reversed.
according to sex therapist laura berman, a vasectomy can be reversed more easily than a tubal ligation for a woman, which is nearly impossible to undo. “there’s some success reversing it up to eight years,” she said of a vasectomy. “but you really should look at is a permanent solution.”
berman also said that men contemplating the procedure should be sure that they’re not doing it because of issues they may have had growing up that could be addressed in therapy.
byrum said he had no such issues. he also found no resistance from urologists he approached.
“they didn’t want to offer their opinion; they wanted it to be my decision,” he said.
berman said that byrum’s decision is part of an overall trend. “any birth control, we’re seeing more and more men taking control of family planning, and in extreme cases like this making the decision that they absolutely don’t want children and deciding to have a vasectomy,” she told morales.
lauer asked him if it were possible that at some point 10 or more years down the line, he might decide he wants children after all.
“it’s theoretically possible, but you make the best decision you can make with the information available at the time,” byrum said.
he then offered some advice for other men in his condition considering having a vasectomy and never having children.
“you need to make it with the mindset that it is an ultimate decision. it’s something you’re doing and setting up that next period in your life and how you’re going to live it. for that person to make that decision, they need to truly understand that it’s a no-going-back deal.”
I had mine at 24 and it was hard to find a doctor who would do it.
More on the swirling connection between the American woman, the American legal community and vulgar absurdity.
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i recently had dinner with a rotund american woman. she works in the same building as i do and happened to hear me mentioning that i had not sampled a particular dish in quite some time, so she said that she knew the location of a restaurant that served a delicious version of said dish. anyway, i agreed to let her show me the location on her way home. i followed in my car until we got to the restaurant where she asked if she could join me for dinner. i wasn’t keen on this but i did not want to be rude seeing that this heifer worked in the same organization that i did and could make things uncomfortable if she felt slighted.
we both ordered and while waiting she started making small talk asking my age and other personal details which i rebuffed. she invited me to accompany her on some outings but i told her that i had a girlfriend who wouldn’t appreciate me spending time with another female outside of business. that was hardly a speed bump and she continued her interrogation. finally, i decided to change the subject of the conversation to her and not me. she told me that she did not date men from the local area. she said that any man who had to pay child support or work two jobs to pay his bills was not for her. i smirked and asked her what if he was a really nice honest guy but had to work two jobs to get ahead? certainly that was better than being a thief wasn’t it? she said that it didn’t matter what kind of person he was, she just didn’t want a man that had to work that hard for a living.
i was amazed. here was this obese unattractive american woman who considered herself too good for a hard working man. i wondered to myself if she ever looked at herself in the mirror and how she could possibly say a thing like that when indeed she would be lucky if a man… any man, showed interest in her. she not only had a corpulent body but a very overweight ego as well. i told her that she would probably end up marrying a guy lower down the social ladder than the one i mentioned. she said that she would remain single then. she then said that she could see me marrying with someone from the local area and settling down with some kids. i howled with laughter and told her that she obviously didn’t know me quite well and that i loved my money too much to do anything so foolish. this seemed to enrage her a bit and she asked if i didn’t want to leave my genes behind. i replied that didn’t really concern me since the world was already over populated but if she felt the need to leave her genes behind to further contribute to the situation i would not be critical. well, she got into a huff and said that i was being mean. i said that i was not being mean but she was being rude wishing children and marriage upon me when that clearly wasn’t on my agenda. i informed her that i did not date american women and found the idea of marrying one to be offensive to the point of being an insult. she was stunned and asked me how i thought that she felt hearing this since she was an american woman. i said that it shouldn’t matter to her because it was a personal choice not a matter of public opinion.
i excused myself saying that i had a prior engagement and left. clearly, this aw had some unrealistic expectations. one can only imagine what kind of man the skinny ones think they deserve!
Excellent work, CM! I will contribute this:
THIS APPEARED ON CRAIG'S LIST!!!
"What am I doing wrong?
Okay, I'm tired of beating around the bush. I'm a beautiful (spectacularly beautiful) 25 year old girl. I'm articulate and classy.I'm not from New York. I'm looking to get married to a guy who makes at least half a million a year. I know how that sounds, but keep in mind that a million a year is middle class in New York City, so I don't think I'm overreaching at all.
Are there any guys who make 500K or more on this board? Any wives?
Could you send me some tips? I dated a business man who makes average around 200-250. But that's where I seem to hit a roadblock. 250,000 won't get me to central park west. I know a woman in my yoga class who was
married to an investment banker and lives in Tribeca, and she's not as pretty
as I am, nor is she a great genius. So what is she doing right? How do I get to her level?
Here are my questions specifically:
Where do you single rich men hang out? Give me specifics - bars,restaurants, gyms -What are you looking for in a mate? Be honest guys, you won't hurt my feelings -Is there an age range I should be targeting (I'm 25)? Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the upper east side so plain? I've seen really 'plain jane' boring types who have nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys. I've seen drop dead gorgeous girls in singles bars in the east village. What's the story there?
- Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows - lawyer, investment
banker, doctor. How much do those guys really make? And where do they
hang out? Where do the hedge fund guys hang out?
How you decide marriage vs. just a girlfriend? I am looking for MARRIAGE ONLY
Please hold your insults - I'm putting myself out there in an honest way. Most beautiful women are superficial; at least I'm being up front about it. I wouldn't be searching for these kind of guys if I wasn't able to match them - in looks, culture, sophistication, and keeping a nice home and hearth."
* it's NOT ok to contact this poster with
services or other commercial interests
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THE ANSWER
"Dear Pers-431649184: I read your posting with great interest and have thought meaningfully about your dilemma. I offer the following analysis of your predicament.
Firstly, I'm not wasting your time, I qualify as a guy who fits your bill; that is I make more than $500K per year. That said here's how I see it.
Your offer, from the perspective of a guy like me, is plain and simple a crappy business deal. Here's why. Cutting through all the B.S., what you suggest is a simple trade: you bring your looks to the party and I bring my money. Fine, simple. But here's the rub, your looks will fade and my money will likely continue into perpetuity...in fact, it is very likely that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you won't be getting any more beautiful!
So, in economic terms you are a depreciating asset and I am an earning asset. Not only are you a depreciating asset, your depreciation accelerates! Let me explain, you're 25 now and will likely stay pretty hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year. Then the fade begins in earnest. By 35 stick a fork in you!
So in Wall Street terms, we would call you a trading position, not a buy and hold...hence the rub...marriage. It doesn't make good business sense to 'buy you' (which is what you're asking) so I'd rather lease. In case you think I'm being cruel, I would say the following. If my money were to go away, so would you, so when your beauty fades I need an out. It's as simple as that. So a deal that makes sense is dating, not marriage.
Separately, I was taught early in my career about efficient markets. So,I wonder why a girl as 'articulate, classy and spectacularly beautiful' as you has been unable to find your sugar daddy. I find it hard to believe that if you are as gorgeous as you say you are that the $500K hasn't found you, if not only for a tryout.
By the way, you could always find a way to make your own money and then we wouldn't need to have this difficult conversation.
With all that said, I must say you're going about it the right way. Classic 'pump and dump.' I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into some sort of lease, let me know."
I believe the respondent will make a fine monger some day, if he isn't one already! And, we all know what the OP already is.