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Ex-students
OK, I tried contacting one, just one, ex-student via FB and she did not respond. I need to try it on others, not sure who though.
Been back in the States 10 days, and am already not getting a response from a girl who just moved here a month ago ( I met her back in Europe, I kind of know her family). We had talked about NYC and how I was going to show her everything and she was so excited and blablabla and now....nada. Oh well, she's not much to look at anyway but still would do her.
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[QUOTE=Cherchezfemme]OK, I tried contacting one, just one, ex-student via FB and she did not respond. I need to try it on others, not sure who though.
Been back in the States 10 days, and am already not getting a response from a girl who just moved here a month ago (I met her back in Europe, I kind of know her family). We had talked about NYC and how I was going to show her everything and she was so excited and blablabla and now. Nada. Oh well, she's not much to look at anyway but still would do her.[/QUOTE]You are too naive, sorry.
Most likely she has already gotten 10-20 chumps(no offence, a joke) like you from the internet, promising a lot in exchange of her attention.
And in addition to that, after her arrival, the rumors about the "fresh" pussy has propagaded quickly, so now there is a line of guys in BMW, Mercedes and Lexuses has lined up.
This is what happens when a new pussy(even ugly ones) enters the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave. You face a lot of competition for 1-2-3 holes in a piece of meat. This sucks, but that's the USA reality.
I know this for sure, I had posted a fake profile on a dating site, you have to see what kinda things men are offering! Also one my ex-girlfriend was shocked after she placed a profile on a dating site. She got offers from some rich people, asking her out, promising dinners, some NYC producers inviting her to their shows, etc. Some guys drove 100 miles to see her.
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[QUOTE=Goga Fung]You are too naive, sorry.
Most likely she has already gotten 10-20 chumps(no offence, a joke) like you from the internet, promising a lot in exchange of her attention.
And in addition to that, after her arrival, the rumors about the "fresh" pussy has propagaded quickly, so now there is a line of guys in BMW, Mercedes and Lexuses has lined up.
This is what happens when a new pussy(even ugly ones) enters the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave. You face a lot of competition for 1-2-3 holes in a piece of meat. This sucks, but that's the USA reality.
I know this for sure, I had posted a fake profile on a dating site, you have to see what kinda things men are offering! Also one my ex-girlfriend was shocked after she placed a profile on a dating site. She got offers from some rich people, asking her out, promising dinners, some NYC producers inviting her to their shows, etc. Some guys drove 100 miles to see her.[/QUOTE]
LOL I also posted a fake profile in China (DIA site) with a nice photo of a chick I had picked in Shanghai. That got over 30-40 responses a day! An oxford university professor, vice presidents of companies, real estate tycoons, doctors .. all responded. Lots of guys from UK USA Germany and some Turkish, Australians. No one from China itself. It was an eye opener.
Such was the case in China. I can only surmise what would happen if a hot chick posts on match-dot-com or any US website.
Watch the internet ads/banners for ANY American dating site. They always post a picture of the hot girl. They know there are no women. It's all just men becoming members and paying obscene money. So they target men.
I ignore all US sites completely. Going to a local grocery store and picking up MILFs is much much easier. For fresh off the boat chicks , try libraries of community colleges.
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[QUOTE=Badboy27]LOL I also posted a fake profile in China (DIA site) with a nice photo of a chick I had picked in Shanghai. That got over 30-40 responses a day! An oxford university professor, vice presidents of companies, real estate tycoons, doctors .. all responded. Lots of guys from UK USA Germany and some Turkish, Australians. No one from China itself. It was an eye opener.
Such was the case in China. I can only surmise what would happen if a hot chick posts on match-dot-com or any US website.
Watch the internet ads/banners for ANY American dating site. They always post a picture of the hot girl. They know there are no women. It's all just men becoming members and paying obscene money. So they target men.
I ignore all US sites completely. Going to a local grocery store and picking up MILFs is much much easier. For fresh off the boat chicks , try libraries of community colleges.[/QUOTE]
That whole dating website thing is really strange. I've known some really hot chicks that were into that scene. One of them was a hot P.R. chick with one of the the all-time top three nicest asses I have ever seen. No kids but real stuck up though. I believe females think they can order up the perfect man criteria wise when describing what they are looking for, and that is why they go that route.
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[QUOTE=Mike12]That whole dating website thing is really strange. I've known some really hot chicks that were into that scene. One of them was a hot P.R. chick with one of the the all-time top three nicest asses I have ever seen. No kids but real stuck up though. I believe females think they can order up the perfect man criteria wise when describing what they are looking for, and that is why they go that route.[/QUOTE]
Actually its more complex than that.
Dating Web Sites equalize things for men, not for women really.
If you don't appear "successful" (Car, Job, Clothes) then your penalized. Then women parse that. Is the car a BMW or Benz, is the job high paying and are the clothes from a upscale retailer? If not, they marks off each and weigh that against how you look. The further you're away from Taye Diggs, Ricky Martin or Brad Pitt, you get put on the "Friend's Ladder". But that only happens in real time. On web sites they can filter out those easily, which is why lying is so effective for men.
I can't explain to Cherchez why failed with his Facebook Girl. Its likely she wasn't that into him but didn't want to hurt his feelings. Women know almost instantly if they are going to let you fuck them or not. At least I know, I've never been shocked when the panties drop, its expected, I get results. The only time I'm surprised is how quickly it happens, first date anybody?
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I Agree!
[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]Dating Web Sites equalize things for men, not for women really.
If you don't appear "successful" (Car, Job, Clothes) then your penalized. Then women parse that. Is the car a BMW or Benz, is the job high paying and are the clothes from a upscale retailer? If not, they marks off each and weigh that against how you look. The further you're away from Taye Diggs, Ricky Martin or Brad Pitt, you get put on the "Friend's Ladder". But that only happens in real time. On web sites they can filter out those easily, which is why lying is so effective for men...[/QUOTE]Excellent point! Dating websites and social networks can equalize the playing field for men.
-Helpmann :)
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Strength in numbers
[QUOTE=Cherchezfemme]OK, I tried contacting one, just one, ex-student via FB and she did not respond. I need to try it on others, not sure who though.
Been back in the States 10 days, and am already not getting a response from a girl who just moved here a month ago ( I met her back in Europe, I kind of know her family). We had talked about NYC and how I was going to show her everything and she was so excited and blablabla and now....nada. Oh well, she's not much to look at anyway but still would do her.[/QUOTE]
A sample of "one, just one, ex-student" is meaningless on a dating site and even more meaningless on Facebook, just like striking out with one girl in a bar is. Maybe she was not looking for love, maybe you are not her type, maybe she doesn't check Facebook that often, maybe she is waiting for her date to show up... the possibilities are endless. It is the same on Mamba, a much more powerful dating for sex platform, you do not make just one contact and give up if she doesn't reciprocate.
The power of on-line dating (and social networking) is that you can make numerous low-effort contacts to smoke out a few leads amongst the hundreds (or thousands) of possibilities. Plus there is little emotional cost to putting yourself out there and getting rejected. Just move on to the next profile. But try moving in on younger women or former students/colleagues in a bar and either you will be emotionally exhausted after a few tries, or someone will complain to management or the police about harassment!
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[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]
Women know almost instantly if they are going to let you fuck them or not. At least I know, I've never been shocked when the panties drop, its expected, I get results. The only time I'm surprised is how quickly it happens, first date anybody?[/QUOTE]
Another excellent point. Sometimes I feel my balls are well... My CRYSTAL BALLS.
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I don't think she's been hit on by many men. She is an engineer and works long hours and is very serious about her job. I don't think she's been in an environment yet where that can happen.
Two, she's not hot enough to attract a lot of attention and Three, she is not the flirty type at all.
Maybe I'm just being 2 negative with myself? Anyway I'll try once more.
But I know what you're trying to say.
[QUOTE=Goga Fung]You are too naive, sorry.
Most likely she has already gotten 10-20 chumps(no offence, a joke) like you from the internet, promising a lot in exchange of her attention.
And in addition to that, after her arrival, the rumors about the "fresh" pussy has propagaded quickly, so now there is a line of guys in BMW, Mercedes and Lexuses has lined up.
This is what happens when a new pussy(even ugly ones) enters the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave. You face a lot of competition for 1-2-3 holes in a piece of meat. This sucks, but that's the USA reality.
I know this for sure, I had posted a fake profile on a dating site, you have to see what kinda things men are offering! Also one my ex-girlfriend was shocked after she placed a profile on a dating site. She got offers from some rich people, asking her out, promising dinners, some NYC producers inviting her to their shows, etc. Some guys drove 100 miles to see her.[/QUOTE]
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I ignore all US sites completely. Going to a local grocery store and picking up MILFs is much much easier. For fresh off the boat chicks , try libraries of community colleges.[/QUOTE]
-Re US sites: I want to ignore them but a) i've heard too many success stories to ignore them totally and b) i actually have talked to and gone on dates with girls i met online so it IS possible to get something out of it.
-I'd love to pick up a few MILFs but have never had any success
-Re comm. colleges, that's not a bad idea
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[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]A sample of "one, just one, ex-student" is meaningless on a dating site and even more meaningless on Facebook, just like striking out with one girl in a bar is. ![/QUOTE]
I know man, I know one is meaningless. I wanted to tell you guys I tried it with one at least, now I have to do it with others.
I just feel weird doing it, like its wrong :)
A few of my ex-students who are still in HS have tried to friend me but I turn them down. Too young.
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[QUOTE=Cherchezfemme]Re US sites: I want to ignore them but a) i've heard too many success stories to ignore them totally and b) i actually have talked to and gone on dates with girls i met online so it IS possible to get something out of it.
-I'd love to pick up a few MILFs but have never had any success
-Re comm. colleges, that's not a bad idea[/QUOTE]Just curious, what is your age? I used to be interested in MILF's when was much younger, now in mid 30's, not interested in MILF's at all. I think MILFs also want much younger guys. I'm now planning to marry a girl, early 20's.
When I was in US, I tried to use a couple of USA dating sites just to see whats available. There are some women, but from what i had seen mostly fat and ugly to me, waste of time.
Colombian sites such as romancelatina and eastern European sites are much better, they have nice young girls who are in USA too.
There are also many summer students from Eastern Europe looking to stay in USA. many work in restaurants and theme parks.
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[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]A sample of "one, just one, ex-student" is meaningless on a dating site and even more meaningless on Facebook, just like striking out with one girl in a bar is. Maybe she was not looking for love, maybe you are not her type, maybe she doesn't check Facebook that often, maybe she is waiting for her date to show up... the possibilities are endless. It is the same on Mamba, a much more powerful dating for sex platform, you do not make just one contact and give up if she doesn't reciprocate.
The power of on-line dating (and social networking) is that you can make numerous low-effort contacts to smoke out a few leads amongst the hundreds (or thousands) of possibilities. Plus there is little emotional cost to putting yourself out there and getting rejected. Just move on to the next profile. But try moving in on younger women or former students/colleagues in a bar and either you will be emotionally exhausted after a few tries, or someone will complain to management or the police about harassment![/QUOTE]
I agree, I never tried canvassing and usually picked out a few profiles I liked best and contacted those women, I would usually get back maybe one or two. For the sites I use, women find me and I reply if I find them attractive enough along with other factors.
I think I mentioned before, if you contact 100 profiles and get back 10 positive replies, that's about average in America.
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[QUOTE=Goga Fung]Just curious, what is your age? I used to be interested in MILF's when was much younger, now in mid 30's, not interested in MILF's at all. I think MILFs also want much younger guys. I'm now planning to marry a girl, early 20's.
When I was in US, I tried to use a couple of USA dating sites just to see whats available. There are some women, but from what i had seen mostly fat and ugly to me, waste of time.
Colombian sites such as romancelatina and eastern European sites are much better, they have nice young girls who are in USA too.
There are also many summer students from Eastern Europe looking to stay in USA. many work in restaurants and theme parks.[/QUOTE]
Which MILF's want younger guys? In my experience they want somebody no older than 5-10 years than they are. So if your 40 like me, then you should be able to find a MILF about 28-30 who has taken care of herself (Not Fat).
You can find all sorts of desperate homely girls who have children but willing to do anything for a man. I think I told the story of the cashier I met at a truck stop in Ohio. If I wanted to screw her in the sleeper of my rig I could have that night. She was short, fat and not very cute. She had 2 unmanageable kids (bi-racial). I called her a few times because I was bored just to see what was up, it was a waste of my time.
Romance Latina seems to be legit and is the low cost DIY method of finding a girl in Colombia. I'm not knocked over by what I find on tour sites, but the women on RL are much better looking in most cases, younger as well.
US based web site are usually the trash heap unless your willing to compromise AND drop your standards. Not to mention most of the pussy you find is not worth driving or flying for.
Seems to me most of the FSU girls that find their way to the States end up on the east coast. There's a Ukrainian girl (23) who's on one of the IR forums I use and she's expressly looking for a Black Man to marry. She spent time down in Alabama going to school for semester. She's about a 8 on the old scale.
When they work at amusement parks, it seems again they are working at parks on the east coast. On a internet radio forum I listen too, there was a Ukrainian girl (25 now) that spent time in New Jersey working at Six Flag's Great Adventure. She's kind of cute, depends on your taste I guess, really thin and no tits. I don't think you'll find many "hotties" in America and I don't know if its worth to effort to track them down. Most of them still won't mind about a 10-15 age difference but usually met immature men around there age bracket. I guess it just depends on what they want. Elena's Models has a listing of just FSU Women in America. A few also show up on Lucky Lovers.
I'm not sure if its wise, but maybe the students might not "ruined" yet from spending time in America.
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MILFs vs Cougars
[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]Which MILF's want younger guys? In my experience they want somebody no older than 5-10 years than they are. So if your 40 like me, then you should be able to find a MILF about 28-30 who has taken care of herself.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I think Goga is mixing up MILFs and Cougars.
Sure, probably most Cougars are MILFs, but it does not follow that most MILFs are cougars.
MILFs tend to be women who were hot in their younger days, went through the parenting treadmill, and have just emerged from marriage to discover they past their "best before date" and are not the hot commodity they once were. They are more realistic than their younger selves were and grateful for whatever attention they get. So they are relatively easy targets for uncomplicated sex. "Relatively" being the operative word - it is still hard to find ones that are both doable and not hung up on having a "relationship".
To increase the yield I target Russian/Ukrainian ex-pats in whatever city I am travelling. They are likely to be good looking and willing and more realistic about their market value. Plus they need to fuck to have a sense of self-worth as a woman. Also Russian girls perceive they have passed their "best before date" by age 30, which opens up a younger market than I would be able to tap with AW. I have some success with this strategy - not spectacular, but better than with any other plan.