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I must admit I love Manhattan myself. I'm a little jaded because I work in the airline industry so I have to deal with the nasty New Yorkers on the regular. I just get the feeling that out of the whole country they have the bitchiest women but that's just my personal opinion. I mean Atlanta has a lot of bitchy women too. I agree the whole country is fucked up. I get tired of meeting women who GO OUT OF THEIR WAY to be unfriendly. I sometimes feel that traveling to other countries and meeting women is a blessing and a curse at the same time because when I'm back in the U.S. I can't even deal with the women on the slightest level without them getting on my nerves. I do not blame them though. Many were raised to be the way they are and honestly don't even know any other way to be. Living here in Atlanta I feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone because the females are so fake to me. Many walk around mad with an attitude... I'm like what are you mad about..you have it made. Here in Atlanta the only way to get a female to give you the slightest attention is to A) Play for the Falcons, Braves or the Hawks B) Be a big time drug dealer or otherwise C) be rich from some other means. I guess the reason why I love South America so much is because I don't have to worry about Allen Iverson coming in the club taking all the women.
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mr_smooth:
I haven't been to Argentina, but last year I went to Rio for Carnaval (how they spell it down there). I got my mongering information from this amazingly amazing site, and I was set! :)
Alas, I had a bit of a bad experience my first night in Rio. Some sage advice: Never go for the woman who's ten years older than you but tries to look ten years younger than you, heh.
But, funky experience aside, Rio was fantastic! By this time next year, I hope to travel to Argentina. Judging from all the positive press on this forum, I can't wait to get down to Buenos Aires.
Later!
-- L.
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mister_smooth:
Go for Argentina.
I was at a crossroads a couple of years back with a similar choice. In the end I picked Buenos Aires just because I knew more Spanish words than Portuguese… Also I read the BA board and was sold after a couple of pages! The last element in the decision for me was that I wanted to meet our great leader, Jackson.
In the end BA won. I had a fantastic time. Been back 3 times now and will keep on going. Just look at the board, there are some fantastic guys who spend a lot of time out there: have you wondered why?
Regards and happy decision making.
Havanaman
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I have had the opportunity to travel around the world and have to say that American women are the least desirable company you can find. It might be a generalization but for the most part your chances of meeting a charming princess who loves you for you in the US are next to nil. Europe, South America, Australia, Asia, even Canada has more attractive and desirable women relative to the population than the US. While it is true that due to the mass media and consumerism that women are changing all around the world and becoming more "American", the rest of the world still has plenty of sexy and exotic women. I'm an American who is originally from New York and I have spent time in Europe, South America, Asia, and finally I wound up in Australia. All these places have sexy and beautiful women. I have also lived in different cities in the US including NYC and LA, and find that women in the big cities are generally the same, there are few nice exceptions like Miami or Hawaii but for the most part I don't find American women very attractive or friendly. From my travels, I have found that women are just more sensual outside the US. Sensuality is an art and can't be learned, your either born with it or without it. After my years of travel I am happily living in the land down under in Sydney, Australia, and yes the women here are gorgeous :).
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Wow, long time no hear, CBGBConnisur! I envy you the Sydney location and I concur -- a lot of beautiful women there.
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CBGBConnisur
I have to disagree with one point only. I believe that sensuality can be learned. But American women (thank you feminists) don't feel the need to be feminine. So why learn? IMHO
FD
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Still I have to say that I am a bottom line person and in the end my goal is just to get laid. To this end American women, for lack of a better word, SUCK. But it all makes sense after all, the whole country is in uproar about Janet Jackson showing her nipple while advertisements featuring fart jokes and other stupid crap were playing back to back. With this kind of attitude so prevalent no wonder its so difficult to find a good lay in the USA. I really want to meet an old college acquaintance of mine who was a sorority queen that turned me down and treated me like crap and introduce her to my gorgeous Australian girlfriend just to make her feel really inadequate because she really wasn't that sexy. Even European women aren't that great, they can be as bitchy and jaded as most American women, and many can have an attitude if you're a foreigner or can't speak their language, also many of them are lazy and like to sit on their arses and smoke. Don't get me wrong many are good for a one night encounter, but not for anything more. They don't have long term appeal. Australian ladies have a number of advantages that make them better than European women. First, they speak English and for an American guy this makes it easy to socialize with them. They have British style sophistication and etiquette yet at the same time lack of the snootiness of British women and are very down to Earth. They are also very upbeat and very active, these girls love sports which is something rare for women. And most importantly they love sex and have sex appeal to keep a guy going.
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Hope you guys don't mind if I butt in. We here in Oz are divided between those who think Sydney girls are better and those who think Melbourne girls are better. IMHO, I'd take the Melbourne ones over the Sydney ones anyday. If you guys stay in OZ extensively, you'll realise the huge difference in attitude of the people. Sure this is a generalisation, but in Sydney the girls are far more pretentious and arrogant. Melbournians are far more laid back and friendly. I guess it's probably due to Sydney being like a mini London, non stop activity 24 - 7. It's probably a reflection on the success of a area. Generally speaking, the bigger the city, the less friendly the people are.
Having lived a few years in the UK as well, I've found that the same applies. Living in Cardiff, most girls would be perfectly happy with dinner and a movie. But in London, you'd tend to find that they are heaps more demanding. To the extent of shopping and wanting to go on holidays(weekend in Paris).
Maybe this is all slightly different for me, as an Asian/Australian. I suppose there's still a bit of reluctance on most Anglo cultures to accept cross racial relationships. So I suppose, my experiences might differ from you guys. Anyway, just my 2 cents worth.
A number of Aussie girls have or are currently taking America by storm. Naomi Watts, Cate Blanchette, Elle MacPherson, Rachel Griffiths, Megan Gale, to name a few. :)
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"BTW, I am making my first trip to SA and need to decide between Brazil and Argentina. Last night, a friend endorsed Brazil as the place to go for a first timer. What do you think?"
Hmmm easy decision DO BOTH!
Go to www.varig.com, click AMERICAS, INTERNET FARES, and BUENOS AIRES, and you can get a triangle fare from NY, LA or MIAMI to BA with a free stopover in RIO or SP, for about the same price most people pay for one or the other. Great airline, safe, clean, on time, in general.
I have been both places many times and frankly it's a tossup, unless you like black and mixed race girls, in which case you must go to Rio. Argentina is very caucasian.
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"LA is also the porn movie capital of the world"
It's also the fake breast capital of the world. I think its also the murder capital of the US, although New York and Chicago are just as bad. I don't care if there are 10 million people in LA, LA is Dante's Hell, if you have visited LA did you ever notice the brownish haze that overwhelms the skies of Los Angeles? Its absolutely disgusting, LA is a also a lot more dangerous than Sydney. I nearly kissed the ground when I landed in Sydney, this place is beautiful and much safer than LA.
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This is coming straight from the horse's mouth. Our lovely American woman in all her grandeur. I had a Super Bowl party and this person was offended that I put my arm around her and was being nice to her. Honestly, I did nothing more than put a friendly arm on this *****'s shoulder. She sent me this email a few days later. Need we say more about the state of American women.
"You are welcome. I did have a good time at the party until you started hitting on me and in front of other people. It made me really uncomfortable, and I thought that I had made myself clear that I wasn't interested in you for anything other than a friend. You need to be more accountable for your actions. I mean I've seen you twice when you have been drunk and you've tried to hit on me. Maybe you shouldn't drink so much if you aren't able to remember what you do or say. I'm sorry that I am being so harsh, but I feel that I have to be to get my point across to you. I'm sure we will see each other at another party, but I didn't do the favor for you in hopes of getting anything in return. I was just trying to be nice.
Take care"
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We have some of the most gorgeous women in the whole fricken World here in America.
But the Problem is = Their ATTITUDE
Especially with Younger Women [ who Cares about the rest ?? ] , they learn early on to assess their Own Looks and Desireability.
And the more attractive ones then try to use their Looks to extract All They Can from which·ever Men they can.
But even WORSE is their [ to quote Nirvana ] =
" Here we are now, Entertain us " Attitude
What I mean by this is = even fat, ugly chicks have this 'Entitlement' 'Tude ; as if just because God gave them a snatch, all of us men should Bow Down and Worship them
It's a Mercenary Hardness ; a projection of a grating nature that I find just plain *Irritating* [ You guys know what I mean ]
And don't even get me started about how NO young American women know How to COOK !!
... Or, about how the Public School Systems leave them so un·educated that they can't carry on an intelligent conversation on ANY Subject that hasn't been hyped on MTV
I'm talking here, Natch, ONLY about women you'd actually ask out on a Real DATE !!
Most SWs I've met are At LEAST as Intelligent; and even if they don't exactly offer to whip you up a Beef Wellington Dinner, can at least hold up their end of the ten minute conversation on either end your Business together
*Whew!* Thanks for letting me get this Out of my System =
WHY , should I ever find my·self Single again , I would *NEVER*
Date an American Chick !!
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Canadian Women: Personally, (since I live here), I think Cdn women are worse than American women. It really seems as if the "femminist movement" really took a strong hold up here. Women here are VERY bossy, arrogant, rude and just plain MISERABLE. They are usually always out to screw you over in any way possible - they suffer from the "lack of penis syndrome". Just look at the workplace now. I'm all for equality, but 9X out of 10, a woman or minority will get the job over a white man - and I should now. My work place has over 200 people in it, and 3/4 of the bosses are.............women and 2/3 of those are........minorities. I'm NOT a racist, but shouldn't it be the best person for the job and not to fill a "racial quotient"? Even the Police Dept in Vancouver here used to be racially biased agaisnt caucasians saying, "I'm sorry, you're very qualified but we need minorities even if they score lower than you". At least the Sgt. was honest.
The sad thing is that since Canada welcomes minorities and "refugee's" with open arms, these immigrants (esp. women) quickly learn that Canada affords them more rights than their homeland and they exploit it - too far! Example #1 : At my wifes work, there's a cambodian chick there who said, "yea, my husband and I got a divorce (but still live together), just so that I can collect "low income subsidy assistance""! Example #2 And another one who was Vietnamese who said "I got a divorce (but still live with hubby) so that I can get welfare, stay home and look after the kids while he's out working!". These people just abuse the system and it really pisses me off. The asians / east indians here know that Cdn women are "strong, tough and proud" and they OVERDUE it to the 100 th extreme. If you even look at them wrong or say the wrong thing, they bring up false charges of "harassement" or some other bullsh*t, just so that they can sue and/or get Employment Insurance Benefits. They know the system better than I do and I was born here!
It's gotten so bad up here that if you even hold a door open for a Canadian lady at a store, they growl at you! I even had one say "I can do that for myself!" sneering away at me.........Stupid c*nts!
Sorry for the rant, but there's a reason why so many men from here (I guess the world over) travel to Asia where the man can indeed be treated like a MAN. What a novel thought!
Chikan
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Chikan, I'd have to say that your examples are exceptions rather than the norm. Sure there will always be migrants who play the system, but by and large, they play an integral role in western societies. Regarding the women, well it's just a by-product of years and years of lobbying for equal rights by feminists. Times change my friend, we either roll with them or, get swallowed up and spat out.
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To the dude that mentioned that the US has some of the most beautiful women in the "fricken world", it doesn't matter since they have such a shit attitude, realistically they are not that good looking. I've seen proportionally larger numbers of attractive women in Europe, Asia, South America, here in Australia and even certain parts of Canada like Quebec and British Columbia. Since many have a lousy attitude that ruins the bottom line: the shitty attitudes precludes the chance of getting a good lay, so were are back to where we started where American women can't just cut. You go to a bar in Oz meet a pretty girl and if she smiles at you, you buy her a drink and talk and then take her back to your place. In America, I get plenty of friendly smiles but when you get to the conversation part most times you know you are going to exert a tremendous amount of effort for this lady to take her clothes off. I knew this good looking blonde at a place I worked at who always smiled at me, sometimes even walking by my desk and waving hello, a lot of other guys were jealous because this woman liked me. One morning in the parking lot she sees me and sees my car and I walk by and we notice each other, I try to say hello and she looks away. Obviously she was not impressed with my car and she was one of those golddigger types. I haven't run into this in Oz with a woman who was friendly to me, there are no alterior motives with Australian ladies or with women in Europe, Asia, South America, etc. If they express a liking to you they will be honest about it.