-
South American Ketchup
[QUOTE=Ezinho]Fantastic post, Bango. This reminds me of an American expat I met while I was in living in Brasil. This guy had essentially liquidated all his assets and moved to Rio, living the good life, and fucking many beautiful women. We were eating dinner one night at a restaurant in front of Copacabana beach, and what was the topic of discussion? The women? The beautiful weather? The beach? Nope. He was complaining about his ketchup. Apparently, he was unhappy that he was not able to get Heinz ketchup at this restaurant for his fries, and that the local brand was inferior. If guys on here aren't familiar, the ketchup in South America is not as thick as American-made ketchup, and a tad bit sweeter. Apparently, this bothered him so much that he had to complain to the waiter, even going as far as describing, in detail, why the American made ketchup is superior, the thickness, the flavor, etc. Granted, he was a good termas wingman, but that was the last time I ever went out to a restaurant with him.[/QUOTE]
Ezinho,
Who was that guy?
I check out the mail-order-bride sites from time to time. Last year there was an American guy who complained about the very same thing, the ketchup!
He says lives abroad in various countries; Korea, Panama, Colombia, Brazil, and comes to the US only once in a while. His rant was triggered when he was in Colombia, I forget which city, and a restaurant didn't give him ketchup with his French fries. He had to ask for it. He thought that the ketchup should be given automatically the way it is in US restaurants. He continued with the low quality of ketchup in Colombia compared to the US.
He came across like an idiot because the men were on the forum to discuss foreign women as potenital wives, not the state of ketchup in Colombia.
He apparently also likes to talk about the 'casas' in Colombia and the women working in them, even though that is not a legitmate topic of those forums.
It is a small world!
P.S. I happen to like Brazilian ketchup. The sweeter taste suits me, though I would prefer it to be slightly thicker.
-
[QUOTE=George90] Last year there was an American guy who complained about the very same thing, the ketchup!
He says lives abroad in various countries; Korea, Panama, Colombia, Brazil, and comes to the US only once in a while. His rant was triggered when he was in Colombia, I forget which city, and a restaurant didn't give him ketchup with his French fries. He had to ask for it. He thought that the ketchup should be given automatically the way it is in US restaurants. He continued with the low quality of ketchup in Colombia compared to the US.
He came across like an idiot because the men were on the forum to discuss foreign women as potenital wives, not the state of ketchup in Colombia.
[/QUOTE]
This idioT should have taken a shipping container load of Ketchup with him to Columbia.......with guys like this, it's no wonder American Women are so fucked up.
-
[QUOTE=StudioCat]I love my Lotus Elise. How does the song go? Older whiskey, faster cars, younger women. I live in Queens. The drive home at 80mph on the Long island Expressway clears my head. What's wrong with that?[/QUOTE]
Great Car! Love those things....
I agree with Ezinho, in a place like Los Angeles area setup you have to have a car basically. Its socially unacceptable to not have a car...
I love cars, it is very much a hobby. Back in the early 90's I didn't have a car for around 3 years and honestly I got tired of depending on people to go out, borrowing the gf's car to meet other women (not my gf my homies), etc, etc.
I would buy car magazines still and help people on their projects. I mean I still buy Hot Wheels for crying out loud...
I do find it liberating, its my gas I burn it, it cost $3.50 a gallon but my range is around 350 miles on one tank mainly city driving and a little bit of boost under acceleration.
That's why I would move to a car lover's paradise like Germany and tho its very expensive to be a car nut in Germany, I could make it work... I would give up the super nice condo and live in the boonies to own a car if that's what it took.
Gissen didn't look so bad...
Plus I would use public transportation because its affordable and its the best. My friend Ine didn't buy a car, not because she didn't want too, she wanted to invest it instead. So she makes do with the Bahn, ICE and her bike.
I believe both options together are best. Sometimes public transport is better like going to a ball game, a concert, a show, a night on the town, etc. I like the option of walking around talking, especially wuth my girl (when I have one).
Road trips are fun.... I am not a backpacker this is the next best option
-
[QUOTE=Astor Bryan]This idioT should have taken a shipping container load of Ketchup with him to Columbia.......with guys like this, it's no wonder American Women are so fucked up.[/QUOTE]
That's what I told my friend in Norway about Dr Pepper, that shhh is $5US a can in Norway...
Yeah on his next trip home, go to Smart & Final and stock up, what an idiot...
-
[QUOTE=StudioCat]I love my Lotus Elise. How does the song go? Older whiskey, faster cars, younger women. I live in Queens. The drive home at 80mph on the Long island Expressway clears my head. What's wrong with that?[/QUOTE]
Most probably very little is wrong with that if you're driving at a time where you can hit 80mph on that road, as long as you're not running over anybody who isn't a waste of oxygen ;)
The ketchup guy, the funny thing is I know EXACTLY what he's talking about. Heinz REALLY is the best ketchup. But in the end, either give up the ketchup, or move where the ketchup is good and cheap if its so goddamn important to you. I decided a long time ago ketchup is just unhealthy anyways. :P
RN, Aus immigration is hard on Yanks AND Canucks. The reall good thing is that you guys have anmesty every 5 years or so I believe. I had some Canadian friends who were just beach bums until the next amnesty came along and then got legit jobs and settled.
-
[QUOTE=Mmbmmb]
Besides someone has to be really naïve if she/he thinks that US is paradise where one can find a great job because in US everything is possible. It doesn’t matter where you live if you want to make good money you have to 1) know local language (fluently) 2) graduate university ( best a local one) 3) have an idea for your own business 4) to be a specialist for example in cardiosurgery (= university + years of work experience)
Gentlemen, you look for a women who’s beautiful, intelligent, feminine, who will take care of your children and who will work at an office making extra money.[/QUOTE]
These are good points concerning generating wealth, but only about 20 percent of the millionaires in the United States have masters degrees or better. Around 8 percent have law degrees and 6 percent have medical degrees. I know a few (relatively) young cardiologists - it's true they will soon be earning a lot of money - but they have spent a lot of years not working and have significant debt. They also have lifestyles that may discourage savings/investing in favor of consuming. They are not rich, but they can generate a lot of income, generating income is not the same thing as building wealth.
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/s/stanley-millionaire.html?_r=1&oref=slogin[/url]
You don't need to be book smart (obviously, it helps) in order to make money in the United States, you can make money the old way - work hard and be tight with your money. It's easier in the USA than many other countries, because our tax system encourages it more than a lot of other countries. However, it's not much fun. If you go down that path, more often than not, you need a wife that is more frugal than you. Certainly, if you marry someone who enjoys spending money and can not constrain themselves, you are not going to generate a lot of wealth. At least not as much as you could.
[url]http://www.pbs.org/kcts/affluenza/[/url]
So, I think, if you are looking for a "good" wife you probably are better off finding someone who understands how hard it is to earn and keep money. I know a few American women like this. Interestingly, the most frugal woman I know of - after my grandmother - lives on the Upper East Side NYC. She's an old Yankee. Tight with a dollar. I know a couple of sweet AW's that are [i]kind of [/i] like this, but they certainly would enjoy a trip to Paris or Bali if they had the opportunity. Of course, as an American guy, I know a lot of AWs who could blow [i] any [/i] amount of money in short order. In contrast, I know a Colombiana who actually keeps me from spending money on things or activites that don't generate income or meet basic needs.
-
[QUOTE=Jelly Donut]These are good points concerning generating wealth, but only about 20 percent of the millionaires in the United States have masters degrees or better. Around 8 percent have law degrees and 6 percent have medical degrees. I know a few (relatively) young cardiologists - it's true they will soon be earning a lot of money - but they have spent a lot of years not working and have significant debt. They also have lifestyles that may discourage savings/investing in favor of consuming. They are not rich, but they can generate a lot of income, generating income is not the same thing as building wealth.
You don't need to be book smart (obviously, it helps) in order to make money in the United States, you can make money the old way - work hard and be tight with your money. It's easier in the USA than many other countries, because our tax system encourages it more than a lot of other countries. However, it's not much fun. If you go down that path, more often than not, you need a wife that is more frugal than you. Certainly, if you marry someone who enjoys spending money and can not constrain themselves, you are not going to generate a lot of wealth. At least not as much as you could.
[/QUOTE]
I cannot express just how 'spot on' (as they say in England) what JD has written. Anyone who wants to get rich in the US need to print his post and frame it!
I think 2 economists wrote a book on millionaires in the US about 5 years ago. They found that getting rich is much more related to how much one [i]saves[/i] than about how much one [i]earns[/i]. Every financial advisor I have every come accross has emphasized that if a person starts saving [b]regularly[/b] at a young age (say 21), he or she can accumulate [i]millions[/i] of dollars by retirement age. The magic is something called compounding; earning interest on previously earned interest.
Of course, staying on a long-term saving regimen takes discipline and an aversion to the wanton materialism of US society. It also means focusing away from the earnings rat-race in which one's self worth is measured by one's salary.
I have not met many women in the US who have such discipline and lifestyle. I had childhood friends whose parents grew up in the shadow of the Great Depression. [i]They[/i], the parents, had financial discipline. I think most people these days living in wealthy, stable countries with generous safety nets have no idea of the terror and horror of financial ruin in the 1930's. It wasn't for nothing that many committed suicide. I have not met many men who don't put a great deal of their self-worth into making more money than the next guy, and showing it by [i]spending[/i] more money than the next guy.
The current housing correction may bring back some discipline but I think the correction would have to last many years for it to sink into thick skulls.
If a man, who is so inclined, wants to live a more frugal lifestyle and save more of his hard-earned money, he will have difficulty finding a suitable mate in the US. From what I see, US women are even more consumerist and materialistic than US men becuase they use consumer items to show how well they have beaten sexism and become financially successful. I still recommend looking abroad for wives.
-
You have a point there George. My neighbors here in the Bronx were both born in 1927, and so grew up in the Depression and they say that the 30s were the WORST years NYC ever saw, much worse than all the mayhem of the 60s 70s and 80s. They DID have some form of help in those days, called 'home relief' but it was basically just enough to keep families from outright starving to death.
NYC is probably one of the only places in this country where you even have a ghost's chance in hell of getting a date without a car. But even then, if you live too simply you are GONE, completely off the radar.
Let me tell you about the night I separated from my now ex-wife. We had been fighting for weeks on end straight and decided to go out together for a night on the town to try and reconcile and let some steam off. So she wanted to go see a Broadway play and I wanted to try out this new Argentinian restuarant. We went and say the play, it sucked, but I didn't say anything not wanting to ruin the evening. Now it was 10:30pm, and to get to the restaurant, all we had to do is hop on the #1 train, we were right at an entrance to the station and it was a block away on the other end. Fucking ***** REFUSES to go into the subway despite the fact that it's next to impossible to get a cab in the theater district right after the shows let out. So we stand there for 25 minutes trying to get a cab, finally she relents, fuming, and we take the fucking train. Needless to say we had another blowout, but it didn't even matter to me anymore. I knew that was my last straw.
I don't EVER think of a girls' race background or nationality as far as relationships are concerned but I knew that as far as the two of us human beings were concerned we were not meant to be together.
-
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]Let me tell you about the night I separated from my now ex-wife. We had been fighting for weeks on end straight and decided to go out together for a night on the town to try and reconcile and let some steam off. So she wanted to go see a Broadway play and I wanted to try out this new Argentinian restuarant. We went and say the play, it sucked, but I didn't say anything not wanting to ruin the evening. Now it was 10:30pm, and to get to the restaurant, all we had to do is hop on the #1 train, we were right at an entrance to the station and it was a block away on the other end. Fucking ***** REFUSES to go into the subway despite the fact that it's next to impossible to get a cab in the theater district right after the shows let out. So we stand there for 25 minutes trying to get a cab, finally she relents, fuming, and we take the fucking train. Needless to say we had another blowout, but it didn't even matter to me anymore. I knew that was my last straw.
I don't EVER think of a girls' race background or nationality as far as relationships are concerned but I knew that as far as the two of us human beings were concerned we were not meant to be together.[/QUOTE]
In my case I concluded that my ex was just not meant to live with other human beings. She was from NYC and had the attitude typical of the women who grow up there. I got tired of watching her treat waiters, cashiers and anyone else who was forced to deal with her like shit. I don't think she'd fare well in her old age if she ends up needing caretakers to feed her and wipe her ass!
-
[QUOTE=Rubber Nursey]National pride is a dangerous thing sometimes. I'll lay off the patriotism. :)
Our young women aren't going anywhere - we simply don't have any. There's no young men, either. A significant percentage of our population is well over fifty years old. Our ageing population is actually reaching crisis point, with the Government frantically trying to put things in place to cope with the massive skills shortages and pension claims that will occur when all the baby boomers start dropping out of the workforce, en masse. Our Government is even paying out thousands of dollars in 'baby bonuses' to everyone who gives birth (regardless of their income) to encourage us to 'go forth and procreate'.
I don't know that America is a primary destination for Aussies to look for work - although, I'm sure plenty do. But the US isn't very agreeable when it comes to giving out work visas to Australians. (We're not too keen on giving them to American's, either. Not sure where all this hostility is coming from!)Traditionally, Aussies head to the UK and Ireland, where work visas are much easier for us to obtain and the pound is worth so much more than our dollar. We can go to NZ without visas at all, which some people take advantage of for a change of scenery, but their dollar is worth less than ours, so it's not much of a money spinner.
It would be interesting to find out the age bracket that those half a million Aussies visiting the US fit into. With the first stages of the baby boomers' retirements already well underway, we've seen the rise of what we call the 'Grey Nomads' - retirees who sell up, buy a caravan or mobile home and just travel around Australia, indefinitely. Literally thousands of them. A significant number are also travelling overseas. I wouldn't be surprised if they account for a very large percentage of your Aussie visitors.[/QUOTE]
Nationalism and Patriotism are two different things thinking you are better than someone because you come from country a and being proud of country a are two different things. There was some nationalistic feeling in the USA post 911, a lot of that has disappeared with the Iraq debacle.
I had a friend in Melbourne who was offered a job in Northern England, he turned it down flat, why? Despite the pound being worth more, the cost of living in the UK is absolutely expensive. He found its better just to visit Europe than to live there forever.
As far as Americans having trouble getting permits for Australia, this is true, because the education systems are somewhat different, for example a medical degree in Australia is a Bachelor of Medicine and Surgery degree whereas in the USA it is a Doctor of Medicine. Americans usually have few problems immigrating to Canada. I immigrated to Australia seven years ago and back then it was not difficult. Now a US citizen would probably need to have an Australian qualification or be a Nurse, Doctor to get in.
-
DJ FourMoney,
I’m sorry I answer you so late but I think that slowly I become workaholic and I have no time for anything else.
My post was a little ironical too. I know that Ukrainian girls are pretty and it’s easy to fall in love with them but I’m sure you wouldn’t discriminate any nationality ;-)
The problem is you won’t find your princess picking up girls who admire only Benjamin Franklin or Ulysses Grant from among all Americans. Anyway as I wrote before don’t lose your faith :-)
From time to time I read your posts and I’m really interested if European women will be “better” for you then American ones. I guess that time will show everything.
Now I can tell you that Polish (and not only Polish) girls aren’t “giving up for free”.
You are daydreaming if you think that way :-)
But seriously DJ, I was thinking about problems you have to face ( hmm as a typical? AM) and I got to a conclusion that you look for nonexistent ideal. We wrote here about all the changes which took place in the modern culture etc and nobody can’t turn back time but sometimes I think that people are simply selfish and that’s the main problem here. The more I talk to people the more I see this attitude (that what’s the most important in the world is me, me and one more time me and my problems).
It’s interesting what you wrote in the thread about Kiev that
[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney] “ I wouldn't be surprised if this venture costed you several thousands of dollars. For an amount like that I would seriously consider staying home or using FKK services in Germany where you can find Ukrainian, Russian, Romainan and Polish girls already working in these places for 50 Euro for 30 mins[/QUOTE]
To tell the truth before I read ISG I didn’t even know that something like these German clubs exist but it’s not the point. What’s interesting that in these clubs you can buy sex with beautiful, young women who would do everything what you dream about for 100 euro. It’s not a lot of money. I’m a little surprised that you still want to look for your princess. Ideal people don’t exist and maybe she won’t be so “easygoing” as the girls in the clubs. I mean that going to these places you just pay and you don’t care about anything. You can kiss with a blond Czech girl and after to have sex with brunette from Brazil. Do you know what I mean? You haven’t to strive for anything, you just pay. When you have a wife you have to reckon with her problems. If you quarrel with her, next day you will have to buy flowers and to assure that she’s the love of your life. If you go to the club and you don’t like the girl you just take another one.
The relationships are expensive and demanding. I don’t talk only about money. I also buy my boyfriend different presents e.g. a golden cross. But buying it I was thinking about a charm which could protect him not about how much money it costs. I invest not only dollars but also feelings in my relationship. I really don’t care of all the stuff I gave him. They were presents which showed him my care and love and I won’t take them to the grave with myself so why should I care about these things? It really hurts when you trusted/ loved someone and this person will treat you as a disposable thing.
Well, once I asked you to describe what you understand under the word “love” but any of you didn’t do this. So DJ, what are you looking for? You go to all these places and I’m sure it gives you new, exciting experience but do you really want to find love in Kiev during weekly holidays? In FKK I think you won’t find your princess too.
BTW, I can tell you that online sucks. If you have no choice it’s better then nothing but it won’t replace daily contact. I tried it and I’m disappointed. I didn’t stop to love this person but internet it’s a solution only for a short period of time.
Maybe if I can help you somehow I’ll write what I think writing about love.
It’s when
- the beloved person is also your best-friend who will support you even if you’re poor, ill, unemployed etc.
-someone cares about your problems and tries to solve them with you
-someone isn’t selfish and thinks: our problems, family, money, work etc, not MY…..
- someone works on the relationship, thinks how to improve it, not only during the first year of it
- people also enjoy sex in their relationship. Sex is normal and very important part of relationship but it isn’t its basis
- people show each other tenderness, care etc
Generally theory about plants-people is still actual.
I know that it’s not perfect description if such description exists at all. It’s similar to the situation when you want to describe colors to a blind person.
DJ, I want to say that if you decide for serious relationship you have to realize that the phase of passion will pass soon. I mean that one day your beautiful wife can fart at bed and you will leave your dirty socks at a chair. Sorry if it’s not romantic but this is normal life. Any woman can’t be Barbie doll forever even if she’s a beautiful Ukrainian girl. I’m also sure that even handsome Pierce Brosnan belches from time to time and he doesn’t look so elegant at these moments.
If you think that somewhere there is a woman who will be so hot and kinky as the girls in FKK but on the other hand she would be innocent, young, a little submissive and a little independent, who would love to have children and to prepare food for the family all day long (did I forget something? :-)), you can be disappointed not only of Ukraine but also of Poland, Germany, Italy, Kazakhstan, China and so on.
Jelly Donut,
You write about millionaires and it’s only small % of society. You are right that one hasn’t to be well-educated in order to make money in the United States. It’s one of the wealthiest country in the world and working physically you still can buy a lot of goods but we can’t know what will be in the future. Maybe when eg Chinese people get rich (= they also want to have big cars, air condition at home etc) the prices of oil, gas, energy will increase. Will an average construction worker be able to maintain the same standard of living? Someone with knowledge and practical skills will demand more money for their service then unqualified worker. A propos doctors, once I went to a public hospital in Poland because I had to see a general practitioner. They said that I can go to the only one doctor or to wait about 2 weeks for a visit to a doctor I saw last time. I said that I need to see a doctor now so I can go to see this guy. It doesn’t matter for me, I won’t wait 2 weeks. It turned out that the doctor was Tunisian and even if he was nice and he tried to help me I had impression that he didn’t understand to the end what I said to him in Polish. So I said to myself that I won’t use public health service but the private sector is expensive. On the other hand I prefer to pay more money and be sure that diagnosis is proper then to spend much more money later for the reason of complications. Unluckily not all Polish people have access and possibility to use private health service.
You wrote
[QUOTE=Jelly Donut]
They are not rich, but they can generate a lot of income, generating income is not the same thing as building wealth[/QUOTE]
Yes, it’s not the same though how do you want to build wealth if you can’t generate income? Besides if the cardiologist you know have lifestyles that may discourage savings/investing in favor of consuming it’s a question of their character. I don’t see the connection between the education and the snobbery. Maybe snobbery isn’t the best word here. It’s a question of priority. Some people prefer to have a big, expensive wedding, the others would prefer to have a modest ceremony and to go to Brazil for honeymoon. Is it wrong if you have money for it? I think that money isn’t the aim of life, it’s only the mean which let to realize the life’s aims.
Of course there is a problem if you haven’t any discipline but it’s still about someone’s character and I don’t see the connection with the education.
Writing the points in my last thread I meant that a hard working, intelligent person with university degree always has better chances to achieve success then unskilled immigrant who doesn’t speak the local language.
If you have a girlfriend who keeps you from spending money it’s great but I don’t think she could do anything if you hadn’t the financial discipline. And if we talk about the wives who like spending too much money we had another saying in Poland “You saw what you took so don’t complain now” ;-)
-
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]...they say that the 30s were the WORST years NYC ever saw, much worse than all the mayhem of the 60s 70s and 80s.[/QUOTE]
NYC of the 60s, 70s, and 80s was far better than present day NYC, Bango. It had more, better, and cheaper hookers. Gulianai ruined the city (in fairness every american city was ruined between 1980 and 2000).
-
It is hard to have a good quality of life in a large US city, in fact.... unless you are ultra rich, forget about it. Most American cities have went downhill for a number of reasons, mainly the fact that the gap between haves and have nots has become too wide. The same scenario is playing itself out around the world.
There are still many places in America where one could have a good life, I have a cousin who grew up in the South and seems to live quite well on a moderate income, gets plenty of women, even banged a Miss America contestant. There are fewer distractions in smaller places, so women behave differently. I traveled a few times to a small town in Georgia, and saw a huge difference in how women behave compared to the big cities.
-
[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]There are still many places in America where one could have a good life, I have a cousin who grew up in the South and seems to live quite well on a moderate income, gets plenty of women, even banged a Miss America contestant. There are fewer distractions in smaller places, so women behave differently. I traveled a few times to a small town in Georgia, and saw a huge difference in how women behave compared to the big cities.[/QUOTE]
While that is very true, I am not convinced one is able to regularly bang women of the caliber of Miss America contestants. I have read the posts of men who live in rural counties. They are farmers. They say that if a man doesn't marry by 18 or 19, he may [i]never[/i] get married at all! The women who are marriage material either leave town and go to college in big city or marry right out of high school. The rest aren't marriage material. They are either obese, crazy, dumb, or all three. One guy said that an average looking women from a large city could be the prettiest women in 4 or 5 rural counties. What he described made it understandable why a man's sister or cousin would start to look good if he was drunk.
-
Well you can always import if you know what I mean. I think keeping a woman from a foreign country in a small town would be better than a big city, she would always feel a bit foreign.