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I'm a Midwestern white boy who lived in the Bronx for about five years, in the Pelham Bay neighborhood. Worked in the south Bronx. I was there in early 2004 to late 2008.
I actually miss New York in a lot of ways because of its great outdoors and the hustle attitude of the people. Everyone knows how to make a buck there.
As far as dating and all that, I'll say there could be some very attractive women there, but there were plenty of dumpy, Newport smoking women, too. As far as Manhattan, I'd describe it as a place people go when they want to take their career to the next level. I think there are many transient residents who go there to accelerate their career then leave.
If you want to see local demographics, just take the 6 train north. You'll still see some white folks and Asians up until 86th Street, but after that it's largely Latin and black and a few crackas like me.
From my experience, I will say that big cities like this are often segregated. Nice thing about New York is that people don't hide their beefs with other races so much. They're pretty open about it.
Far as race mixing, you see a few mixed couples, sure. I was in my mid- to late 30s there, and I dated a few women outside my race. To be sure, the women seemed attracted to me because I might afford them some financial stability. Ones with kids weren't shy about putting on the full court press.
But I'm not too keen on being the economic savior, especially when it involves taking care of someone else's baby batter.
Met some attractive Dominican and Puerto Rican girls. Often times, I think when these broads are young they're way into the bad boys who don't do shit with their lives but knock the girl up. Then a guy like me comes along and their standards skyrocket.
Briefly dated a Colombian girl who later tricked some dude 15 years older than me into knocking her up and marrying her.
Every place has its ups and downs. My experiences in Latin America have taught me that as an obvious white American, I'm often going to be seen as a cottage industry by poorer locals. Friendships abound when you have money.
But New York ain't so bad. It might not be as cool as it was when you were a kid, but what is?
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[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1138105]I.
NO WAY IN HELL there are plenty of beautiful women in NYC. Not even on the best day does it come CLOSE to Bogota, and like I just said, Bogota is FAR from the place where the most beautiful women are in this country.
As far as live music and theater, NYC is DEAD! Which is why I moved out in the first place. TRY and find even ONE swingers club in NYC. I challenge you. I could show you 16 here in Bogota! Try and find Sandoz acid in NYC. Try and find MDMA or K. Try to even find cocaine that's not been stepped on a dozen times. Hell, try to find a nice juicy succulent orange. NO, that garbage you're eating from Whole Foods is NOT fresh. Come here and you'll know the difference with the first bite! [/QUOTE]Man you just sound stupid now. NYC draws every TOP NOTCH performer of any kind in the world.
If you are anybody you play NYC.
12K a month. I doubt seriously they have 12K apts in south bronx. And if you live in S bronx then yes you suppose to have roaches. Rats.
I've been to Colombia. And there are fuglies running around there just like anywhere else. I did not see a whole lot of superstar babes running around. Just average looking like in any city. Some fuglies. Some average and a few good looking. But it wasn't like every other women was a beautiful woman.
I don't judge a city by whether or not I can get MDMA or K. Or how strong the coke is in the city. I'm not a DOPE HEAD so those things don't rate high on my."What makes a good city" list. To each his own though.
And lastly we have farmers markets in the USA too. You know. Local farmers bring their FRESH fruits and vegetables to sell.
Oh thats right. USA farmers don't know how to grow as good as Colombian farmers. Oh. The soil is better in Colombia. Oh. Pesticides have not been used in ANY colombian farms. Every where in the world uses them. Except Colombia. Just like everyone pops out only beautiful slim babies.
Damn Colombia. The world biggest secret. All the beautiful women. The best food. Drugs. Damn you got it BC. You the man. Livin Large in that head of yours.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1138247]Man you just sound stupid now. NYC draws every TOP NOTCH performer of any kind in the world.
If you are anybody you play NYC.
12K a month. I doubt seriously they have 12K apts in south bronx. And if you live in S bronx then yes you suppose to have roaches. Rats.
I've been to Colombia. And there are fuglies running around there just like anywhere else. I did not see a whole lot of superstar babes running around. Just average looking like in any city. Some fuglies. Some average and a few good looking. But it wasn't like every other women was a beautiful woman.
I don't judge a city by whether or not I can get MDMA or K. Or how strong the coke is in the city. I'm not a DOPE HEAD so those things don't rate high on my."What makes a good city" list. To each his own though.
And lastly we have farmers markets in the USA too. You know. Local farmers bring their FRESH fruits and vegetables to sell.
Oh thats right. USA farmers don't know how to grow as good as Colombian farmers. Oh. The soil is better in Colombia. Oh. Pesticides have not been used in ANY colombian farms. Every where in the world uses them. Except Colombia. Just like everyone pops out only beautiful slim babies.
Damn Colombia. The world biggest secret. All the beautiful women. The best food. Drugs. Damn you got it BC. You the man. Livin Large in that head of yours. [/QUOTE]I don't even do those drugs. I just know they're there. But if you want to talk about a place where ANYTHING is available, that's here. NYC USED to be like that a long time ago.
You seem to have a huge problem actually reading what I type. If you live in the South Bronx, you have roaches. If you live in Carnegie Hill, which is the most expensive neighborhood in the city, on the Upper East Side, and a cup of coffee on the corner costs you $5 and a decent lunch costs you $20, and your rent is $12000, YOU HAVE FUCKING ROACHES! If DeNiro and Yoko Ono are your neighbors, YOU HAVE ROACHES. There is no getting away from the roaches NO MATTER HOW "NICE" YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN NYC. They are everywhere. There is no getting away from them. Anybody who has actually LIVED THERE knows this.
Top notch performers, sorry bro, most of us have moved on to greener pastures. Up until 15 years ago you would have been correct. Stop watching so much TV and get out on the street! And I was one of the few up there that didn't have to get a day job. I made a decent living there playing gospel music. But I saw the writing on the wall and left. NYC is O V E R! Period. It's a city for has-beens and want to-bes now. And that includes the fashion world, music, theater, culture in general. It had a good 80 year ride from the Harlem Renaissance on but it's DONE now.
As for the food, you said it. Colombia has health an environmental standards that are ENFORCED that just don't exist in the US, and this affects the food supply in a major way. American farming methods are shit. Along with health care and education, it's near the bottom of the world. The rest is just hype. Throughout recent history people have flocked to the USA for one reason, to make money and bring it back to their homeland. This has always been the plan. Some people got caught up and ended up staying long term, or you had cases like Holocaust survivors who really had nothing to go back to. But in general, that was the plan. Now that the US economy is in the shitter the one big reason to emigrate there has disappeared.
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[QUOTE=Bango Cheito;1138341]You seem to have a huge problem actually reading what I type. If you live in the South Bronx, you have roaches. If you live in Carnegie Hill, which is the most expensive neighborhood in the city, on the Upper East Side, and a cup of coffee on the corner costs you $5 and a decent lunch costs you $20, and your rent is $12000, YOU HAVE FUCKING ROACHES! If DeNiro and Yoko Ono are your neighbors, YOU HAVE ROACHES. There is no getting away from the roaches NO MATTER HOW "NICE" YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN NYC. They are everywhere. There is no getting away from them. Anybody who has actually LIVED THERE knows this.[/QUOTE]Can those places get roaches. Yes. Do they have an infestation of roaches. NO. And you know that. If just one roach is seen. Maintenance is "Johnny on the spot" to spray insecticide or whatever you deem necessary to rid the problem. So don't make it out like they are living with roaches running around like they are a normal everyday issue for people who live in $12k apartments.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito;1138341]Top notch performers, sorry bro, most of us have moved on to greener pastures. Up until 15 years ago you would have been correct. Stop watching so much TV and get out on the street! And I was one of the few up there that didn't have to get a day job. I made a decent living there playing gospel music. But I saw the writing on the wall and left. NYC is O V E R! Period. It's a city for has-beens and want to-bes now. And that includes the fashion world, music, theater, culture in general. It had a good 80 year ride from the Harlem Renaissance on but it's DONE now.[/QUOTE]This is such a ridiculous statement. I laughed when I read it. You are too funny. You have a sense of humor if nothing else. Hahaha. New York is done as one of the fashion capitals. And Broadway is over. And of course Top Musicians. Shun New York now. No. Its not worth playing there. And what the hell is this "US". Pleeeaaasssseee oh yeah. You sung at a church. Of course you're a ex top notch Gospel singer living in Bogota. Who visits the city maybe twice a yr. But you know exactly every thing about whats going on in both cities. Damn you are remarkable. I guess that big Yearly INTERNATIONAL Fashion week N. Y. City is known for will be cancelled next year. Bango say's NYC is "So Done".
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito;1138341]As for the food, you said it. Colombia has health an environmental standards that are ENFORCED that just don't exist in the US, and this affects the food supply in a major way. American farming methods are shit. Along with health care and education, it's near the bottom of the world. The rest is just hype. Throughout recent history people have flocked to the USA for one reason, to make money and bring it back to their homeland. This has always been the plan. Some people got caught up and ended up staying long term, or you had cases like Holocaust survivors who really had nothing to go back to. But in general, that was the plan. Now that the US economy is in the shitter the one big reason to emigrate there has disappeared.[/QUOTE]Just to show your ignorance
Immigration from Colombia to the USA has increased since the 80's. Each year. And they are still coming.
Would you like to compare which has the biggest migration. Americans to Colombia. Or Colombians to america. Would you like to prove your point. Lets see how many colombians. Agree with you.
Immigration to America from Colombia should be small. It should have one of the lowest number for countries around world. Why would someone leave such a great place.
Yeah a government that couldn't stop drug dealers. Without getting Military and Billions of dollars in Aide from the USA. Which still has a big rebel army running around its jungles kidnapping people. But yet you know for a fact it ENFORCES its agricultural process. Its TOUGH on pesticides. Give me a break.
Now don't get me wrong. Colombia is not a bad place to live. But don't make it out to be some "Over the rainbow" utopia. With nothing but fine women, good food, everyone with good medical care, and great education.
That guy. Breakin it down. Peace Out
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1138408]Can those places get roaches. Yes. Do they have an infestation of roaches. NO. And you know that. If just one roach is seen. Maintenance is "Johnny on the spot" to spray insecticide or whatever you deem necessary to rid the problem. So don't make it out like they are living with roaches running around like they are a normal everyday issue for people who live in $12k apartments.
This is such a ridiculous statement. I laughed when I read it. You are too funny. You have a sense of humor if nothing else. Hahaha. New York is done as one of the fashion capitals. And Broadway is over. And of course Top Musicians. Shun New York now. No. Its not worth playing there. And what the hell is this "US". Pleeeaaasssseee oh yeah. You sung at a church. Of course you're a ex top notch Gospel singer living in Bogota. Who visits the city maybe twice a yr. But you know exactly every thing about whats going on in both cities. Damn you are remarkable. I guess that big Yearly INTERNATIONAL Fashion week N. Y. City is known for will be cancelled next year. Bango say's NYC is "So Done".
Just to show your ignorance
Immigration from Colombia to the USA has increased since the 80's. Each year. And they are still coming.
Would you like to compare which has the biggest migration. Americans to Colombia. Or Colombians to america. Would you like to prove your point. Lets see how many colombians. Agree with you.
Immigration to America from Colombia should be small. It should have one of the lowest number for countries around world. Why would someone leave such a great place.
Yeah a government that couldn't stop drug dealers. Without getting Military and Billions of dollars in Aide from the USA. Which still has a big rebel army running around its jungles kidnapping people. But yet you know for a fact it ENFORCES its agricultural process. Its TOUGH on pesticides. Give me a break.
Now don't get me wrong. Colombia is not a bad place to live. But don't make it out to be some "Over the rainbow" utopia. With nothing but fine women, good food, everyone with good medical care, and great education.
That guy. Breakin it down. Peace Out[/QUOTE]Once again, you show your ignorance of NYC. The roaches there are resistant to just about any poison humans cook up to kill them. So your $12k a month apartment STILL has freakin roaches. Anybody who has actually spent any time LIVING THERE knows this. There is NO easy solution to getting rid of roaches in NYC.
And there really aint that many Colombians in the USA, not anymore. Since the late 90s more have gone back than those who have come up. In fact, Colombia has about 10% of its population living outside of the country, which is comparable to Canada, the UK, Australia, and New Zealand. So it's not like people are leaving in droves either. There are like maybe 250k Colombians living in the USA in total. Compared to over 3 million Canadians for example.
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For The Record
Sorry for all the typos. I am working off my ipad and cant edit how i would like to.
I am sure there are some very expensive apartments in NYC but usual rent for a manhattan person is between $2200 and 6K on the high end. 3k and under will get you a studio or maybe a one bedroom depending what part of town you are in.
Mice and roaches are problems everywhere not just in poor areas. If you keep your apartment clean they won't come. Instead they will go to where there is food.
Art is dead in NYC. I am an veteran fringe person from the east village days. Those days are gone. The color is gone and so is the flavor. People still com here searching for it and some think they find it when in reality its like everything else. Contrived. This is mainly due to crackdowns and new rules. Inflated prices that keep a certain elk out. However there will always be poeople who buy into the crap about NY being americas city etc. The truth is most of us hate outsiders and most of them are to blame for the current condition that NYC is in.
Gone are the days of alan ginsberg richie havens new york dolls the ramones wharhol etc.
Now you have FAB want to be's tattle tale do gooders Brooklyn hipsters (the 80s revisited) and right wing homosexuals. Extremely edgy indeed!
Lets not forget the high priced sluts that keep us in line.
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[QUOTE=Bango Cheito;1138564]Once again, you show your ignorance of NYC. The roaches there are resistant to just about any poison humans cook up to kill them. So your $12k a month apartment STILL has freakin roaches. Anybody who has actually spent any time LIVING THERE knows this. There is NO easy solution to getting rid of roaches in NYC.[/QUOTE]I guess you've been to ALL the 12K apts in NYC to know. Dam you are so knowledgeable on just about everything. You know music, women, roaches and where they dwell and what will and will not kill them.
And Yes I know NY. At least crooklyn,"money makin" manhattan, and the "boogie down" bronx.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito;1138564]And there really aint that many Colombians in the USA, not anymore. Since the late 90s more have gone back than those who have come up. In fact, Colombia has about 10% of its population living outside of the country, which is comparable to Canada, the UK, Australia, and New Zealand. So it's not like people are leaving in droves either. There are like maybe 250k Colombians living in the USA in total. Compared to over 3 million Canadians for example.[/QUOTE]Yeah. But less than 4% of American's live outside the country. Goes to show you.
For Americans. Dorothy was right."there's no place like home" at least American's think so.
Also your comparison is ridiculous. Canadians and Mexicans can walk across the boarder, so of course there would be more and millions of them.
Just like the majority of Americans who live outside the USA live in Mexico and Canada. 50% dam near of all american's who live "Abroad" are just next door. We don't go far from the Greatest country. So we can easily get back.
Based on Wikipedia. Colombia is in the top 10 countries for legal immigrants to America. 43K for 2006 alone.
More in one year than all Americans living in Colombia. Period (from the beginning of time to now).
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States[/url]
The top twelve emigrant countries in 2006 were Mexico (173, 753) , People's Republic of China (87, 345) , Philippines (74, 607) , India (61, 369) , Cuba (45, 614) , Colombia (43, 151) , Dominican Republic (38, 069) , El Salvador (31, 783) , Vietnam (30, 695) , Jamaica (24, 976) , South Korea (24, 386) , Guatemala (24, 146)
I mean come on. No one is his right mind would tell you they thought Colombia would be a better place to live than the USA. We get more people in one year trying to come to the USA than has migrated or tried to go to Colombia in its entire history.
Please enough already. There is nothing that Colombia has BETTER than the USA. Its an emerging country. Which means. It trying to get where America is already at. . But if you like the place. Good for you. Enjoy yourself and be happy.
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It's all relative, there are roaches all over New York city. The roaches residing in the Bronx, Brooklyn and Queens are about as big as a medium sized dog. The roaches around the Upper West side are about the size of a rat. On the Upper east most roaches are the size of a house mouse.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1138780]I guess you've been to ALL the 12K apts in NYC to know. Dam you are so knowledgeable on just about everything. You know music, women, roaches and where they dwell and what will and will not kill them.
And Yes I know NY. At least crooklyn,"money makin" manhattan, and the "boogie down" bronx.
Yeah. But less than 4% of American's live outside the country. Goes to show you.
For Americans. Dorothy was right."there's no place like home" at least American's think so.
Also your comparison is ridiculous. Canadians and Mexicans can walk across the boarder, so of course there would be more and millions of them.
Just like the majority of Americans who live outside the USA live in Mexico and Canada. 50% dam near of all american's who live "Abroad" are just next door. We don't go far from the Greatest country. So we can easily get back.
Based on Wikipedia. Colombia is in the top 10 countries for legal immigrants to America. 43K for 2006 alone.
More in one year than all Americans living in Colombia. Period (from the beginning of time to now).
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States[/url]
The top twelve emigrant countries in 2006 were Mexico (173, 753) , People's Republic of China (87, 345) , Philippines (74, 607) , India (61, 369) , Cuba (45, 614) , Colombia (43, 151) , Dominican Republic (38, 069) , El Salvador (31, 783) , Vietnam (30, 695) , Jamaica (24, 976) , South Korea (24, 386) , Guatemala (24, 146)
I mean come on. No one is his right mind would tell you they thought Colombia would be a better place to live than the USA. We get more people in one year trying to come to the USA than has migrated or tried to go to Colombia in its entire history.
Please enough already. There is nothing that Colombia has BETTER than the USA. Its an emerging country. Which means. It trying to get where America is already at. . But if you like the place. Good for you. Enjoy yourself and be happy. [/QUOTE]
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Random comment about NYC roaches
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1138730]Sorry for all the typos. I am working off my ipad and can't edit how I would like to.
I am sure there are some very expensive apartments in NYC but usual rent for a manhattan person is between $2200 and 6K on the high end. 3k and under will get you a studio or maybe a one bedroom depending what part of town you are in.
Mice and roaches are problems everywhere not just in poor areas. If you keep your apartment clean they won't come. Instead they will go to where there is food.
Art is dead in NYC. I am an veteran fringe person from the east village days. Those days are gone. The color is gone and so is the flavor. People still com here searching for it and some think they find it when in reality its like everything else. Contrived. This is mainly due to crackdowns and new rules. Inflated prices that keep a certain elk out. However there will always be poeople who buy into the crap about NY being americas city etc. The truth is most of us hate outsiders and most of them are to blame for the current condition that NYC is in.
Gone are the days of alan ginsberg richie havens new york dolls the ramones wharhol etc.
Now you have FAB want to be's tattle tale do gooders Brooklyn hipsters (the 80s revisited) and right wing homosexuals. Extremely edgy indeed!
Lets not forget the high priced sluts that keep us in line. [/QUOTE]That's why I used Carnegie Hill as an example. Anything in the 90s close to the park on the East side is generally over $10 a month. There are some condos with $10k plus MAINTANENCE in that neighborhood.
Under 4% of Americans, Brazilians, Russians, Indonesians and Chinese live abroad. The bigger countries tend to have lower %'s in that regard.
Colombia may be behind the US in everything ON PAPER. But on the street it's a hell of a lot nicer place to live, especially if like me you hate cars, lawns, and suburbs! And it's the best place I've ever seen to make a living as a musician, I'll tell you that hands down.
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Please enough already. There is nothing that Colombia has BETTER than the USA. Its an emerging country. Which means. It trying to get where America is already at. [/QUOTE]Obviously you've never been to Colombia let alone traveled there extensively so how the fuck can you make such a statement?
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Lets get back on Topic and continue. Talking about the blessing it is to get an AW.
Its about being a hunter.
Some Guys are big game safari hunters. They go after successful AW. The most sort after prize in the WORLD.
Some Guys are back woods hunters. They go after any AW. They may settle for less attractive. But being AW is still a prize.
Then some guys are small game hunters. They want ez prey. They go out of the country where they prey (women) are easier to catch.
None are wrong for what they like. Its just each has their own level of work they are willing to put in to capturing their prey.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1139130]Lets get back on Topic and continue. Talking about the blessing it is to get an AW.
Its about being a hunter.
Some Guys are big game safari hunters. They go after successful AW. The most sort after prize in the WORLD.
Some Guys are back woods hunters. They go after any AW. They may settle for less attractive. But being AW is still a prize.
Then some guys are small game hunters. They want ez prey. They go out of the country where they prey (women) are easier to catch.
None are wrong for what they like. Its just each has their own level of work they are willing to put in to capturing their prey. [/QUOTE]Colombian women are a lot harder to bag than AW bro. The only advantage people from the US have here is that their currency is still overvalued, and that people have a false perception about the US mostly based on shit that was true 30 years ago.
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[QUOTE=Bango Cheito;1139157]Colombian women are a lot harder to bag than AW bro. The only advantage people from the US have here is that their currency is still overvalued, and that people have a false perception about the US mostly based on shit that was true 30 years ago.[/QUOTE]Well since I'm a MONGER. And its about the P4P scene when I'm there. Who gives a damn. I'm not trying to score with non P4P anyway. And I have NEVER been turned down at a Casa. So the rest who cares.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1139130]Lets get back on Topic and continue. Talking about the blessing it is to get an AW.
Its about being a hunter.
Some Guys are big game safari hunters. They go after successful AW. The most sort after prize in the WORLD.
Some Guys are back woods hunters. They go after any AW. They may settle for less attractive. But being AW is still a prize.
Then some guys are small game hunters. They want ez prey. They go out of the country where they prey (women) are easier to catch.
None are wrong for what they like. Its just each has their own level of work they are willing to put in to capturing their prey.[/QUOTE]Most of this is cool, just have 2 questions.
1) What makes AW a prize? What is in them that makes them more of a prize than in other women? Still on average AW are not as good looking, and not as feminine as most other women. Unless she pays you a lot of money, what makes her a prize?
2) You are right, there are different types of guys. They have their own ways to get women. You have not mentioned the guys who get nothing. I've seen intelligent successful guys making good money in USA guys who get ZERO women! It is really ridiculous, because there is no way they would be without women in other countries where I see lots of much less successful guys, or outright losers who get nice women, date or marry them.