A possible cause of obesity
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Leaving aside any OTHER issues, I am shocked when I come back to the USA at how many truly OBESE people there are here now. Both sexes, but it seems more women than men. You don't see this much obesity ALMOST anywhere else in the world. When did it become acceptable in the USA to be 50-100 lbs overweight?????
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Chuponalgas,
The esoteric teacher Gurdjieff had a theory that repressed sexuality often manifests as obesity. I am not aware of scientific evidence, but it seems to me common sense that repressing one appetite could result in over-indulgence in another.
Tea Boy
Average American Height & Weight
Saw some stats in some of today's papers. You may find this info online somewhere. The average American man is about 5'9" and weighs about 191 lbs. The average American woman is about 5'4" and weighs about 165 lbs.
In relation to this part of the forum, does that make anyone alter their concept of their ideal woman? Or does it stay the same, and you realistically just have a lower pool of women that you would be willing to choose from?
One weekly paper I read today had someone give the opinion that Americans are more fat conscious than Europeans when it comes to the foods that we eat, and Americans are more obsessed with weight. Europeans are less picky, yet they as a whole are slimmer than Americans.
My .002 cents and what's it worth!
Online dateing: sorry guy's most of the girls, like the previous poster has stated " Most of the good ones are taken. This means the ones you're running into are likely to be desperate, unattractive, picky or loaded down with "baggage".
That statement is 100% correct, its simple I tried things out on a girl, call me sleezy call me cold, But hey its a dog eat dog world! The truth of the matter is Most girls want a bastard of a man, a a$$hole, a guy whom will Tie em up and beat them! (I've never did that, but thats what they want) sorry its the truth! I tried the the mean over bearing part.
The total shmuck of a man. Then went soft and lost most of my contacts even had a first in my life, was told after you I'm done with men, if it doesnt work out! Then to find she is crusieing the net hard on every single chat rooms, dateing services out on the web its was crazy, she was my crazziest one so far! see a good wise freind once told me, Hey all girls are sluts you have to Treat them with low class, and use mind games and they love you That last one, threw a phone and started crying and was turning things around so much, it was incredible. All cause I layed it on her, the truth! I learned girls wnat liars, cheaters, scandals, and drama They live for the drama In there life, so they can tell there freinds, he does this, he does that and well. NO girl wants to hear "your like a job, there is more applications in human resoures" Take that approach and You will see your stock rise 50% rember these are the girls your not ever gonna marry! NEVER BE A NICE GUY TO A SQUARE GIRL! A square girl is useing tickery to the highest amount, funny how we look down on what were hear for on this board. But yet squares play more of a game, then what we look for, at least we know what were getting up front. Wine, dine, flowers, cards, gifts, plays and movies will not ensure a bbj(maybe poor) at that best! maybe a squirt, squirt hear, I don't do this! hahahah and your left frustrated, and instincts take over and say I gotta try harder! thats the problem, we try harder for girls, whom are man haters!
If she says she doesnt do that sorta stuff Hahahha multiply that by 75% she does it! If she says I'm the best at that she is mentally messed up and needs assureance by daddy! she will do it the greatest at first or lose all interrest! Most "squares" are mind players and use men! withh SW's and dancers, you know upfront your getting something for something! plus you can get them too. Thats another mental warfare!
Women aren't Evil, they're just holding out on us
Mystic Pimp, et al;
I wouldn't go so far as to say women are evil (though it is tempting)- after all, we're still trying to sleep with them!
Actually, the problem is that this whole dating thing is pretty much a game, and it always was; the "scam" happens because (1) no one ever bothered to tell the men any of the rules of this game we didn't even know we were playing, though they still expect us to play along; and (2) by not letting men know what's [b]REALLY[/b] going on, the women maintain an "edge" over us- we react like bumbling idiots, and the girls let us naturally weed ourselves out (while taking advantage of the less fortunate guys along the way). By the time us men even [u]realize[/u] that we have been collectively getting played this whole time, the women have [i]already been running this scam for several years.[/i]
The "game" doesn't stop once you get married, either- instead, it turns into some sort of sneaky, surrepititious power grab. She'll eventually end up "wearing the pants" in your house by [u]using her pussy as a weapon[/u] (for that matter she was probably doing that while you were dating her). This could be the very reason why you see guys turning to P4P or (like myself) committing to staying single; either they just want a "time out" (P4P) or they don't want to play the stupid games anymore (and therefore stay single).
I don't know if this explains your motivation, but it surely explains mine.
New topic just off base for a second please :-)
Hi all,
Just off Topic.To all mongers liveing far and near in the states. Young old
it doesnt matter your input is paramount to this question and will greatly be apricated. Okay on your mongering feats I would assume most guys have came across a white girl whom spoke street,down right nasty ghettho, hard core! Maybe more Younger male's have encounted not to say old didn't.
But whats your feelings when a white girl is ghettho?
Ah the so justified rants.
I did online dating for a while. It is part of the reason I decided to become an expat. If I was honest I received no replies. I did some studies to find out what actually worked. It was always the same. You either had to be really good looking or say you are very wealthy. (Which you have to prove because they don't want cheap dates if you say you have money.)
My methods were to post a profile and a personal. Wait for a week to see how many replies it received. I tried all types, the bad biker boy to preppy, from poor to rich, fat to skinny, and good looking to ugly. I then used photo's of old friends from other parts of the country or from clip art / web sites.
The only sets that received any replies were the profiles with a really good looking guy or some mention of significant wealth. IE I own a high end jewelry store. Or I have 5 bars. Or retired independantly wealthy 30 year old.
By far the good looking jewelry store owner had the most replies. I never finished reading them. There were hundreds from all over the world. The wealthy profiles received more than good looking poor guys who were better than well off average guys. The average looking guy with witty post and above average income would receive a few replies maybe one to five per week.
If you want a good laugh and some ideas post a profile/personal as a attractive girl. You have a picture of a cousin or friend that is old and doesn't look like them any more. Wow it makes the wealthy jewelry store profile seem pathetic. Hundreds or even thousands of replies.
What was really amazing about those replies was how many one line replies there were. "Hi I'm Joe 'Lame ass' Shmuck send me a reply if interested." I mean I'm not a casanova but even I realize a reply like that will be round filed before a hare can finish screwing a rabbit. (Which for those of you who don't know is *Very Fast*)
The scary thing is how many men reply to womans post. The ratio is all screwed up. If a woman receives hundreds of replies every week and she only picks maybe five or ten to meet a week until she lands the wealth attractive guy. It ends up the normal guys get ignored because women don't look at the big picture. The reality is the guys who are good looking or wealthy take full advantage of these stupid girls. The girls usually don't think wow I received hundreds of replies most of these wealth/good looking guys have to be messing around with many women. They think "I'm a princess and everyone can see it." Their narcicism can't allow them to see they are no better than prositutes. They focused on wealth/looks instead of looking for a person who is compatible to spend life with.
After trying online dating / meeting through normal routes for awhile I gave up on American Women. They are mostly the w**** word we can't use on this site. They value wealth over beauty and the dream world over reality.
Thai girls vs. farang girls
Here's an interesting take on American Women , especially when compared to their Thai counter·parts
[ "Farang" is Thai for a Foreigner , especially a White Foreigner ]
Farang men often fall madly in love with the first Thai girl they meet – even if she’s a rough street prostitute who doesn’t speak English. Love-sick farang men are queuing up at the altar to tie the knot with their dubious Thai mail-order brides but why don’t farang girls stir their passions in the same way?
Thai girls and farang girls could hardly be more different. Put simply, Thai girls are family-orientated and farang girls are increasingly career-orientated. In America, 44% of women aged 15 to 44 have chosen to remain childless and the trend is gathering pace. It’s easy to understand their point of view because, as men, we’ve always pursued our ambitions.
Farang girls enjoy opportunities that their Thai sisters can only dream about. In many ways, life in the West has never been better but it doesn’t seem to have translated into greater human happiness. We are witnessing an epidemic of relationship breakdown. Western men and women seem increasingly ill-matched and unhappy. Statistics reveal that dissatisfied western wives are divorcing their husbands in ever-increasing numbers and they can’t seem to find suitable replacements either. Does this mean that we farang fellas are all useless?
No, of course it doesn’t and I’m going to explain why. Despite the far-reaching changes in western society, the underlying attitudes of men and women remain broadly the same. Men still have a provider mentality and women still have an entitlement mentality. Men have always been attracted by youth and beauty and women have always been attracted by wealth and status. Inevitably, the mismatch between our utopian aspirations and the situation on the ground has created problems.
For the sake of his self-esteem, a man needs to be the breadwinner. Taking on the domestic role makes him feel like a failure. Women, on the other hand, feel uncomfortable in the role of provider. A woman would quickly lose respect for any man who appeared to be living off her. Women still feel entitled to a partner more successful than themselves. Consequently, the more successful a woman becomes, the harder it is to find someone suitable.
On the face of it, men are more easily satisfied. All a man needs is a girl who is cute and kind-hearted. Career status is unimportant – it’s her personal qualities that count. He needs to be her protector and hero. A brash career-orientated woman will never excite a man’s passion. If she’s pretty, he might humour her for long enough to get into her pants but a long-term relationship is unlikely to succeed.
Women who don’t touch a guy’s heart but who have soaring expectations are never going to find husbands. Men seeking unconditional love and respect from aggressive ladettes are never going to find wives. As a result, more people than ever are living lonely single lives between brief affairs. Throughout the western world, we are seeing explosive growth in the number of single person households. In the US, for example, census data reveals that the number of single person households grew by 14% between 1991 and 2001. An unhappy world of selfish people living alone is now becoming reality.
Returning to the original question, I think that many farang men fall madly in love with a random Thai bar girl because they’ve never met a truly feminine woman before. Men feel a deep need to care for these needy fallen angels and to receive affection in return. Even when the affection is insincere, the compulsion is so great that few farang guys can resist. Thai girls play the role perfectly. They wield a power over men that their farang sisters have forgotten how to use.
The real name for Gringas....
Simply said, and of course generally speaking. Gringas, (American women), are really: FWOVT, which means: Fucking Waste Of Vaginal Tissue. Yes, not all, but enough for this Latina Addict to systematically write off them all off as a group. Period.
Latina Addict
Role playing? Are we just getting old?
[b]S-Sled[/b] [quote]Ok what do you think when a American "white girl" on the street is speaking all Ghettho,gangster and what not?[/quote] I got my "hip hop wake up call" about ten years ago when I ran into a young lad from Texas, who was affecting the rapper talk and enjoying his urban hip hop.
I guess my generation expects Texans to like country music or possibly ZZTop, not Ice Cube.
I think hip hip has become pretty mainstream in the last decade, and really do not see anything out of the ordinary that youth adopt this style. It is no more strange than the late 70's punk rockers in Indiana.
What I get a kick out of is the lily-white Europeans who also adopt the attitude of oppressed urban black youth. Nothing like a Danish homey!
Before I go and put down what they are doing today, I only have to look back in the photo album to how silly I looked with serious bell-bottom jeans and a tie-dyed t-shirt. ;)
Cheers,
Sporadic
Some more comments on the "Black thing".
Hey guys,
I have been reading these forums and I think that many of the posts are right on point. I do have to comment on the "Black thing" because its something thats been bothering me. First let me say that I am a professional African male, lawyer, and live here in NYC. I make a decent living and am reasonably good looking. Until I started reading this board, I dated exculsively professional black women, all of who made just as much or more money than me. I am telling you that you have not seen a more fucked up woman than a professinal black woman. I will bet anyone on this. You hear much about the paucity of eligible black men in America. That is misleading. There may be a disproportionate number of black men institutiionalized, but that does not expian why most black women are single. They are single becaue the men that they were previousl with, can't take it anymore. Halle Berry is a good example.Why would anyone chest on someone as beautiful as her? I will tell you why. Because somewhere along the line, her husband came to the conclusion that despite all her good looks, that she was not worth it. He could not take it so he went out and found someone else. its what we all do. Imagine the situation being so bad, that you have to give up pussy like that. And yet, thas exactly what happend and what is happeneing to all of us. I now have my dominican girl in the DR and now just fly back and forth. With respect to the white girl thing, when a white woman speaks ebonics, it is the stupidist thing I have ever heard. Does she not realize that we find this offensive and that she looks like an ass? Why the hell cant she just epak english? This facination with hop hop culture among non African Americans is so inauthentic so as to be a joke in my opinion. While I am venting here, you hip hop knuckle heads who are starting to invade Sosua, please go back home. Before you know it, the place will start to look like 125th St on a Saturday afternoon. Enough said.
Reply-less ranty than last time
El,
I hear you. I have actually considered Buenos Aires. However, there are two things stopping me. 1. Yes, Latinas are indeed attractive and sexy, and from what I hear quite accomodating to men. However, I vastly prefer the european aesthetic. 2. In all honesty, I don't think I could handle living someplace that has as big a discreptancy between "haves and have nots" as does BA. I have heard tales of leaving an office building there and being confronted with 25 truly impovrished beggars. Call me a big softie if you like-I resemble the remark to some degree.
My sole point about European (and the rest of the world's) women is that they (in my admittedly limited experience) are substantially LESS loud, obnoxious, egocentric, greedy, than what I am used to dealing with, and I believe that I would have a much better time in say even Western Europe than I do in the midwest US. All things considered, I'm not looking for perfection (As BA may in fact be), just a BIG improvement.
On a slightly different note, I wanted to comment on the "bad boy loser" phenomena in light of my hypothesis that American girls are the way that they are in part (temporarily disregarding my co-theory that the US's prohibition on prostitution drops the supply down and raises the obnoxious egocentric "price") because since the day they hit puberty, there is a non stop ass kissing session from boys and men trying to get that "priceless little treasure" between their legs. Anything that you receive constantly becomes boring. Conversely however, the bad boy loser creates infinitely valuable entertainment in the form of DRAMA when he cheats on her, loses his job, slaps her around, etc. To the girl, this is like getting to live inside a soap opera where "things happen"-this is more or less analogous to a man getting to live James Bond's life!!!!!!
Also the "ghetto" middle class white girl annoys me too-I wish that fad would hurry up and go the way of my generation's "Valley Girl"-I'll probably be gone before it is:)
"Bart"
"Piling On" w/ American Women
Well, for those of you who like to constantly bash women in the USA...listen to this. It's interesting what you find out about today's women in the mainstream media (either print, radio or TV). I was watching a video about dating, and a statistic got thrown out that fascinates me. It seems that women who have affairs are more fertile when they have sex with a lover than with their significant other (ie boyfriend/husband). If the attached woman has a kid, there's a 10% chance that the father is not the bf/hubby!! Maybe someone you know might be in this category.
MP
Interesting conversation, but....
it is all moot. There have been many cases in which the man (read that "victim") has been conclusively PROVEN to not be the biological father and he is STILL required to pay support by the "judge". This is especially true after the child is born (which is when testing is normally performed), and even true when the father has been totally deceived by the "mom". Go figure.
Psyber Z, I'm not sure what you meant when you posted to those of us who like to bash American women. I don't LIKE to bash anyone, but I know of what I speak from experience, having married three women who all proceeded to gain over 100 pounds within the first year of marriage, all the while playing the princess role to the hilt. I refuse to respect anyone who would pull that sh*t on anyone, most especially me.
Look, it isn't even the weight. If I love a woman I can be blind to things like that, but, when said same fat, smelly ***** proceeds to treat me like a piece of shit, all the while acting like she is god's own gift to my life, forget it.
I am VERY tired of all the coarse, masculine, cigar smoking, pushy, egotistical, egregiously over-competitive and arrogant women in this country. Say what you will about women in many Asian or other countries looking for financial security in exchange for sex.... that arrangement is as old as the human species and not likely to change. Many Asian women expect their men to take care of them; a major difference is that they will take care of their men in return. At least they are soft, quiet and feminine (these are all generalities by the way).
I fight all day long; in business I fight with my competitors and my employees, in day to day life I fight traffic, crowds, the government and all the other bullsh*t we all have to face on an ongoing basis. I absolutely refuse to come home and fight with some gal over control of my home life. I spent more damned time with my last wife trying to determine which one of us had the bigger dick... I don't need it anymore. Asian (and many other foreign) women realize that there is more harmony in the home when both partners focus on what they do best.
As I said before, it isn't American women per se, it is the fact that we have spoiled them rotten. Femininization of males and masculinization of females is certainly another factor.