If I hadn't seen it I probably wouldn't believe it was possible. You guys went from discussing the evils of feminism to cheering for Nancy Pelosi in 3 posts. Amazing.
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If I hadn't seen it I probably wouldn't believe it was possible. You guys went from discussing the evils of feminism to cheering for Nancy Pelosi in 3 posts. Amazing.
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I wonder how she would do against Villa today. She should have smashed the flat screen on him. Ha ha ha.
Borat is modelled after a real person, a guy in Turkey by the name of Cagir, who talks just like him, and guess what? Despite being butt ugly and saying some pretty crazy shit, he is a chic magnet. I am definitely looking forward to moving to Eastern Europe and traveling around Russia and the former Soviet Republics.
[QUOTE=hardbarg]If I hadn't seen it I probably wouldn't believe it was possible. You guys went from discussing the evils of feminism to cheering for Nancy Pelosi in 3 posts. Amazing.[/QUOTE]
Hey,
I call em like I see em. The world is a complicated place....and I'm sorry, but having anyone (even probably a femanist) in a position to shut down "King George" (who may in fact actually be having his foreign policy influenced by the book of Revelations, and was well on his way to getting the world blown up.), and eliminating whatever influence the Christian Taliban do have is a good thing. Any pro-feminist legislation which could be introduced or supporrted by her, is a small price to pay for beating back impending facism...which could eventually close US borders and keep us from going abroad. Can you spell "lesser of two evils".
For the record, I'm not a mysoginist (most on this board actually aren't), but a realist. A woman should be able to do whatever she wants, with no limitations............the bullshit arises however when our women believe that they should be able to have it without paying the same price to get it that men do. Want that VP job by 40? Don't take off 3 years to stay home playing with the kids and then complain about the glass ceiling. Conversely, do you want an easy comfortable life as an upper middle class suburban hausfrau? Then keep the house clean, wrangle the kids (and I'm sick of hearing shit about how they are a "full time job", from women who spend their days watching Oprah, getting their hair done, and drinking coffee at Starbucks), don't turn into a porcine, short haired sex depriving for all practical purposes lesbian.
You get the idea.
I happened to catch some daytime TV in the cardio room at the gym. I really think that a load of the crap I mentioned above comes from Madison Avenue, and the television shows that are generated to keep women watching the commercials. On some "judge" show, for example, the "judge" arbitrating over a divorced couple's dispute over her missing a mortgage payment (mortgage was in his name), resulted in 5 minutes of the judge browbeating the man about his lack of consideration for his hog of an ex wife, comparing his "little forty hour a week job" with "TWENTY FOUR HOUR A DAY CHILD CARE".....before awarding him the missing mortgage payment.
The ex wife then began breaking down whining about how tough her life was, and the judge comforted her, and sympathized with her....and awarded her from the show, 6 months of utility payments.........Anyone detect just a hair of bias and pandering here? One could easily see how watching 6-7 hours of this a day could result in the wife actually managing to whip herself into (deluded) self righteous fury.
B9k
[QUOTE=Bart9000]You get the idea.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I think I do. Feminists, and all women for that matter, are ok when they're doing what you agree with, and whining, complaining parasites when they're not.
I can relate to that. I just wouldn't base my politics on it, or shout it quite so proudly. It's extremely difficult for me to see anything positive in Ms. Pelosi becoming one of the most powerful people in the country. I call em like I see em too.
I do not know why you do not like Nancy Pelosi. She is the best thing that is happening for us since Bush screwed us with his lop sided crazy ideas.
Just because she is a woman she should not be discredited. What we need is a quick and rational thinking person to get us out of most of the problems we are facing.
It's definitely time to move this to the American Politics forum.
Here's what "quick and rational thinking" Ms. Pelosi spends her time on.
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Congressional Caucus for Women's Issues:
The information and policy analysis role of the Caucus is now carried out by a nonprofit organization, established for this purpose called Women's Policy, Inc.
The Caucus has continued to be an active bipartisan voice in the House. The Women's Caucus informs other Members and staff of important information and develops legislation relating to women's health, economic equity, education, domestic violence, child care, child support, sexual harassment and international women's issues.
In the 106th Congress, the Caucus introduced and supports a wide variety of bills designed to improve research and services for these women's issues.
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I think "economic equity" is my favorite. Where do you think the policies that make life miserable for American men come from?
She's just the person I want to see dealing with Jihadist terrorists.
[QUOTE=hardbarg]It's definitely time to move this to the American Politics forum.
Here's what "quick and rational thinking" Ms. Pelosi spends her time on.
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Congressional Caucus for Women's Issues:
The information and policy analysis role of the Caucus is now carried out by a nonprofit organization, established for this purpose called Women's Policy, Inc.
The Caucus has continued to be an active bipartisan voice in the House. The Women's Caucus informs other Members and staff of important information and develops legislation relating to women's health, economic equity, education, domestic violence, child care, child support, sexual harassment and international women's issues.
In the 106th Congress, the Caucus introduced and supports a wide variety of bills designed to improve research and services for these women's issues.
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I think "economic equity" is my favorite. Where do you think the policies that make life miserable for American men come from?
She's just the person I want to see dealing with Jihadist terrorists.[/QUOTE]
Now do you REALLY want to tell me that you would prefer further heading down the road to theocratic fascism (and we WERE heading there), with people getting "black bagged", and detained without due process.....and even potentially having ourselves disallowed from leaving the country (think I'm crazy? The Russians probably would have thought it impossible too)......that you would prefer this scenario to....a few more ***** problems (how much worse could it get? And the right wing doesn't have any stake in pushing them back)....at least with our freedom as citizens remaining intact, we can LEAVE
And being in disagreement with someone DOES NOT make them unqualified to do a job. For example, I disagree politically with Bob Dole.......but that disagreement does not change the fact that he is well qualified to do probably most any job in politics, up to and including President.
B9k
I sure hope you're not trying to compare the current conditions in the US with that of Russia just before WWI, or just after their defeat. Instead of trying to talk you down from your paranoia, I think the burden belongs with you.
You brought up qualifications. Just exactly what credentials does Ms. Pelosi, or any of the rest of her buddies, have to establish their ability to deal with that complicated world you were talking about? We've just had a pretty good example of how their last guy, Kerry, handles himself. We'd be better off with Jay Leno. As far as I can tell, the only thing any of them are any good at is blaming Dubya for anything and everything that goes wrong, including your bus being late.
btw - I didn't vote for either of them the last time.
I think it is the right for a girl to look good and do what she wants with her body. If I make good money I can spend it on men, if I want to.
I think the kind of women you talk about here are not feminists. They want to be men, so I call them menists.
So I'm paranoid?
In the last 5 years, the bush administration has:
Obtained the ability to spy on US citizens on US soil.
Obtained the ability to detain as I understand it, anyone classified at the discretion of the bush administration as a "bad person" (I may be overly broad in this characterization, but the spirit remains), and subject them to indefinite detention without benefit of judicial review.
Maintained a policy of labeling anyone who disagrees with their policies as "treasonous" and "a traitor", "emboldening the enemy"....etc.
Shown no indication of slowing or curtailing the continued acquisition of executive power under the auspices of the "war on terror".
Now you may disagree with this, but I don't see where it takes much of a stretch to see where this path is leading........towards "dissidents" (and actually maybe even nonconformists to theocratic hegemony) getting their doors kicked in and disappearing into the night.
Now a lot of people would not want to live in a country like this....hence the result of closed borders to prevent a mass exodus.
Also, why do you assume that Nancy Pelosi is incompetent? Because she is female. I hope not....that would pretty much qualify you towards the mysoginy that the AW board occassionally gets accused of. Otherwise, it would be because her political beliefs (including feminism, which I also disagree with) do not agree with yours. As I stated (using Bob Dole as an example), one does not need to be in political agreement with another to be a competent leader.
Now correct me if I am wrong, but I am of the understand it, the "Speaker" position is one that is elected, by other party members. The ability to get elected politically ot an office, is usually (exceptions exist, such as having your father's supreme court put you into the office, or deceptively utilize a historically unprescedented level of fear mongering to manipulate the public) pretty good tool for determining competence. In order to obtain the Speakership, Representative Pelosi had to convince a majority of a group of people who range from extremely liberal urban black women to "good ol boy" redneck southerners who are pretty much republicans, that she was most qualified to lead the party.
Doesn't that sound a lot the skill set that one would need to say help mediate a peace process between two middle eastern warring factions (pick your poision-Kurds, Shiites, Sunni's Palestinians......) engaged in a dispute?
B9k
I was lying in bed with a Russian girlfriend a couple weeks back and we started to talk about women in general. She asked me to describe Russian women, and the first word that came to mind was "feminine". When she heard this her face got all crossed up and she looked at me in a confused, somewhat hurt manner.
I continued and eventually she stopped me abruptly, insisting that Russian girls aren't feminine and being genuinely angry and upset. After about 2 minutes of arguing we realized that we were talking about 2 different things. She had mixed "feminine" with "femininst" up.
It seems that calling a Russian girl a "feminist" is one of the worst insults you can make... whereas being "feminine" is one of the things they take most pride in.
We laughed at our little faux pas and then I fucked her in the ass.
American girls? What's that?
Yea, I've had that happen. A little Ukrainian girl I was with was blowing my cheeks up like a balloon, and I told her that she was "silly". She suddenly got this terrible look on her face. I asked "what's wrong?". She said "You called me a fool!!!!". I rapidly backpedaled , explaining that the way the word is actually used in English (she may actually have technically been correct) is to mean "playful and childlike"....she settled back down fortunately......
That is going to happen sometimes. It's all just part of the fun.
B9k
PS China Lilly. A definition of femanism is the attempt to obtain more and more rights, protections, and privleges for women through new laws and cultural changes. Most of the people on this board, including myself believe that they NOW (In the United States) have too many rights and privleges. A woman can (speaking generally), often get a man fired from his job because she claims that he sexually harrassed her (and it is sometimes hard to prove that you DIDN'T), a woman can divorce a man at any time, for any reason, and in doing so, she often ruins him financially. There are many other issues also. For example even if a woman wants to be a wife and mother and be supported financially by her husband, she often demands many expensive material things, and will sometimes not live up to the traditional role of wife and mother.
This is strange: I put a pic and a profile up on Hot ot Not. So far out of 500 people, I am rated an 8.5.
Now the strange part is Hot or Not has a meet me feature, where you can let a person know you are interested in meeeting them. So far I have 92 matches. However, about 60 or so of those matches are from really gorgeous girls overseas.
Hmm.
So on a lark, I spent about 30 mins just randomly clicking women who where in my area, about 100 in total. Not one single hit. Nada.Zilch. Even the big ones do not respond.
Hmm.
When does my passport arrive again?
[QUOTE=Bart9000]
PS China Lilly. A definition of femanism is the attempt to obtain more and more rights, protections, and privleges for women through new laws and cultural changes. Most of the people on this board, including myself believe that they NOW (In the United States) have too many rights and privleges. A woman can (speaking generally), often get a man fired from his job because she claims that he sexually harrassed her (and it is sometimes hard to prove that you DIDN'T), a woman can divorce a man at any time, for any reason, and in doing so, she often ruins him financially. There are many other issues also. For example even if a woman wants to be a wife and mother and be supported financially by her husband, she often demands many expensive material things, and will sometimes not live up to the traditional role of wife and mother.[/QUOTE]
Wow. My relationship with practically every American woman in my life in one paragraph...
Think I'll carry this in my wallet.