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From my experience, I have met a lot of women who are perfectly happy with where they are and are not always looking for someone to bring them back to the States. Their perceptions of Americans can vary from country to country, some might have a positive one and others would not be so favorable.
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If Colombian women typically provide GFE, why do so many act like mercenaries in San Jose, CR? I wouldn't mind travelling to Cali, Bogota, or Medelin, but I fear that the girls there won't be so nice, so what is the point in doing so.
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[QUOTE=Sun Devil]If Colombian women typically provide GFE, why do so many act like mercenaries in San Jose, CR? I wouldn't mind travelling to Cali, Bogota, or Medelin, but I fear that the girls there won't be so nice, so what is the point in doing so.[/QUOTE]
Short answer: gringos. Too many gringos paying more than the going rate will do that to a scene - just ask any monger in Tijuana.
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Argentina Women
Just dealing with women in Argentina, and all around the globe for that matter, puts a man on a whole other level. Some differences in BsAs for me last visit were attractive women that actually stop, talk, look you in the eye, and don't try to run off talkin over their shoulder at you as if their time is too golden- unlike where I live in the US. Salesgirls very friendly-even unattractive ones, to the point of being attractive because of them just being them. Hot waitresses remembering you with a kiss, women walking around at midnite with no fear, and a promotion girl in Recoleta Mall giving me a free box of chocolate. In Brazil the females signal and proposition you and they are all not on the program either.
One weird incident happened after a visit to a casa de chica. Had just left the fine establishment after getting busy with two busty paraguayas and was walking down Avenida Callao. I was really feeling good, kind of floatin after an hour of amazon sex when a big group of people comes in my direction so I make way as I am quite big and brush up against one guy and a telephone. Immediately a loud abrasive young American female voice (as only they can be) says "did he just take a picture of us blah blah blah," I just kept steppin and was like WTF to myself was that all about but lemme not let it ruin the nite.
It really takes time getting used to being in a mans world, (outside the US) and is a genuine high for me as here in America AW behavior just bounces off and nothing really surprises me anymore. Try to tell all the fellas how it is outside of the BS here but you can't lead a horse to water... Most guys I know go lookin for action in Jamaica, Aruba, Miami, Cancun, and two even went on a singles cruise around the Carribean on a ship with all AW's of course..... I just shook my head at that one.
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Oxymoron
James,
Let me again, provide you with a dose of reality. Yes, there is an appearent dichotomy...American girls are easy sluts, and also they are unapproachable sexless bitches.
American Girls are absolutely easy sluts...provided that you look like a Calvin Klein model, are rich, or can be a sexy exciting mysterious bad boy...which eliminates 95% of the population of men. I know guys who can walk through a shopping mall, and have a hot new girlfriend by the time that they exit.
To the rest of us, they are overall (I'm speaking in generalities here) unapproachable sexless bitches. There is your dichotomy. This includes the girl's "equal", or "better' in terms of attractiveness, wealth, social class, education, etc. This behavior continues until the girl gets herself into an untenable position (aging, wanting kids, not wanting to work anymore, getting fatter, becoming pregnant with the biological father unwilling or unable to care for the children......), at which point, the woman chooses and "reels in" a ordinary, average, poor sex starved "nice guy" who will gladly come in and use the nice stable income he developed not being a "loser bad boy" to make everything better for the girl, and will do so gladly as he is finally "getting some".
You can no more, read shit on this board, and other sources and then prescribe remedies than I can read a few newspapers and editorial sections of the newspaper and then go to negotiate sophisticated sensitive foreign policy matters at an international summit.
B9K
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JD2004,
Where did you get the idea that nobody reads anyone else's posts? Most of us do. Of course there are the few exceptions who are so wrapped up in their own ideas, but that's definitely the minority.
A few thoughts on the topic at hand. When a woman isn't interested in us, she gets called a cold frigid biatch. If She's not interested in us, but fucks someone else, she gets called a sl*t, ho or whatever else. There's definitely an element of sore loser at work here.
That being said, most women who live in the same countries as we do will always be less interested in us. As a Canadian, or American or whatever, I always find it easier to approach and talk to women when I'm in a foreign country. Am I any different? No, of course not, but to them I'm interesting, special and exciting because I'm from "somewhere else".
There's a lot of guys here who'd say it's because they think I"m rich...... fair enough, and point taken. However, I make a double six figure income and have found that it doesn't help at all when it comes to making my approach. In fact, just the opposite, because I have to be suspicious of all women as potential gold diggers.
Bart9000 is 100% right about what he said. Any women will put out if they think it's gonna help them land themselves an exceptional guy. The number one thing seems to be looks, with big money a close second. This is most true for the younger women..... although money seems to gain in importance as they get older (30's and up).
Anyways, if you're not young, handsome and/or rich..... you probably won't be able to score with all kinds of hot young babes. It's a myth, it just doesn't work that way for average guys..... unless you're willing to pay for it.
Rock
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james
I saw that you got onto streetwalkers.....wasn't really following your logic and flow of thought there.....I do understand that english isn't your first language. I took the first part of your posting as an independent section, and commented on it.
I thought I would just leave the part about streetwalkers alone. It is my OPINION that as the lowest level of the prostitue "food chain" they are "bad news" and should be avoided as having a high degree of potential negative consequence associated with them, such as theft, disease, scams etc.
Rock, as I was writing that, the old joke was in my mind....What do you call a girl who sleeps with everyone...A ****. What do you call a gir who sleeps with everyone but you....a *****.
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"dog and fart"...are you 10 years old? I know that is the kind of wit and sophistication I expect from a pre-pubescent.....as an encore will you do the old "What's the capital of Thailand...BANG COCK" gag?
So your solution for dealing with AW bullshit is to....go out and fuck a US streetwalker......For the moment disregarding all of the potential legal, health and safety issues of this grand plan, I have only one thing to say......"HELLO CAPTAIN OBVIOUS".
And I wasn't bashing you for not being a native english speaker. I'm working on an expatriation(very likely to someplace where english isn't the native lanuage), and have taken the time and trouble to learn a lot of Spanish, basic Czech, and now I'm working on Russian with a Pimsleur course. Yea, don't I sound like some kind of neocon protectionist "minuteman" jag off?
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the only thing i can add is this -
i try really hard to pick women i feel i have a shot at and since its mostly based on looks, i start with average to cute looking women (5-7). some of them won't be interested in me because i'm not attractive to them, that seems fair to me. there's suppose to be a level of animal attraction for their to be some sexual response.
from there, conversation is where things are usually made or broken. if you can't converse with the woman, chances are she won't be interested in you and that is the common theme in any part of the world i would think.
but seldom does a woman diss me based on conversation or even how i look, its how i live my life (over 30 and at home) and what i choose for a profession (truck driver) that usual turns off aw women.
that leaves me desperate older women, bbw's, single mothers and the occasional 6-7 that lack self confidence, has other social or physical issues.
not a great selection if you ask me...
that's not to say you can't run into the same type of women aboard, in fact the more westernized and honestly the more our military is involved in a county the more it takes on typical american issues, like single parenthood. some parts of germany and some asian countries can link some issues directly back to our armed forces.
but generally most populations aboard are untainted for the most part. they just take what they seem to enjoy from our culture and intergate it into theirs.
so i have found so far in my dealings with women from other countries are more accepting of what i do for a living and where i live, since its not uncommon for herself to live at home or known men in her area that also live with their parents.
in otherwords, not being a hypocrite...
i've had single mothers recently divorced and living with their parents try and clown me for living at home, when i earn more than they do! us women have lost their collective minds and its not about sour grapes for me at all. i just see them for what they are.
if you have social issues with women here beyond where you live or what type of job you have, then your going to stuggle aboard also, especially if the native language isn't english.
i don't have to be a world traveler to understand that "game recognizes
game" and as riley freeman said "if game recongnizes game, i'm having trouble recongnizing you grand dad..."
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a little clarity
JD '04, I THINK I understand what you're trying to convey (if I don't understand, I apologize in advance), BUT soliciting the services of a SW in this country can A] land you in jail or B] get your pic plastered on a billboard in the US city where you live, or BOTH. Getting even with AW's (as I believe you put it in an earlier post) is difficult in the US, because the cards are stacked in the AW's favor (from maintaining a stranglehold on the pussy supply to having the power of metaphorical Life and Death regarding careers and sexual harrassment). In my earlier post, I mentioned that (paraphrasing) that many of us here are in the AW's element, and are at a disadvantage in the dating arena. Don't tell me you've never noticed a FUGLY bow-wow get even SLIGHT attention from men. It's the equivalent of shoppers at a deli competing over a rancid, rotting, fly-covered slice of ham. When the OVERWHELMING amount of the delis are like that, how are you going to get even when that is the NORM? Getting back to your "solution" of soliciting SW's: how comfortable would YOU feel if your pic was on a GIANT billboard stating that you attempted to solicit a SW? The brownshirt Feminazis would have a FIELD DAY, saying that you are contributing to the oppression of women (give me a fucking break! SW's are grown women who can make decisions for themselves, so, I don't buy it) and they would say that you are a LOSER for paying for sex. Let me see, would I rather have a FREE necrophilia experience (where my partner would feel that simply being in her presence is ENOUGH, and she would seek to do as little as possible, while the onus is on ME to give her MY ALL) or would I rather PAY for a hot young, willing honey who hasn't had the sexual enthusiasm indoctrinated from her by the "sexual wardens"?
DJ4$ is right... travel to other countries in order to use your relative exotic-ness to your advantage.
Can I have an A-MEN?
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Desparate for AW pussy
Unfortunately in the US we are so desparate for pussy that the ladies know they have us hooked. To really see this desparation, a guy recently posed as a women on CL and posted an ad without a pics and was stunned at the number of male responses he received in an hour. Almost 150 male responses!!!!! My friends the only way to deal with this bullsh#t is for us to date women from other countries.
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[QUOTE=Astor Bryan]Unfortunately in the US we are so desparate for pussy that the ladies know they have us hooked. To really see this desparation, a guy recently posed as a women on CL and posted an ad without a pics and was stunned at the number of male responses he received in an hour. Almost 150 male responses!!!!! My friends the only way to deal with this bullsh#t is for us to date women from other countries.[/QUOTE]That's just sad.
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James D 2004 is confusing monetary gains with women. From his English, he is not a native speaker, I am guessing he is Asian from his knowledge of Asians in Australia. I honestly would not listen to him on opinions about American women since he is not in the US nor has ever actually been there. He as absolutely no credibility. As far as Bart's description about American women only looking at the top 5 percent of the male population, only about 5 percent of the female population is actually worth going after. For the most part American women suck, even the best of us have gotten whipped. Ever read about all the high profile divorce cases concerning the rich and famous. Being rich and famous doesn't make you immune from the wrath of the AW.
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It's Genius I tell you
ok, let's deconstruct this brilliant piece of literature shall we?
"[quote=james d 2004]if you have been following this thread, aw are trashy, slutty, indiscriminate. on the other hand, hard to get them laid, bitchy, unapproachable, princess. that couldn't be all right.
the two faces of aw are touched upon in some posts. if nobody is checking, they go wild easily. spring break, backpacking etc."
ok so "this couldn't all be right"....as i explained in original reply post, it is, but let's leave this alone for the moment.
"i'm talking about something different. how to get laid with bitchy aw, money obsessed aw. how to get even without going overseas and bringing in non-aw. i'm not proposing big solutions, just for fun sometimes, better than repeating how bad aw's are all the time."
so he is going to tell us how to get laid.
"and aw syndrome isn't really limited to aw. as darkseid has already experienced the bitchiness of asian girls from hk and taiwan. how to get even is about the same, but since that happened in america so i stick to aw discussion."
asian girls are bitchy too....ok. what is the point?
"aw are fully aware of sex at ****. my provider friend is very worried
about her niece, who has a rich father, in private school. but she is worried about her sister dropping her niece off at the mall on her own for hours."
ok, so american girls become aware of sex at an early age and your friend is worried presumably that affluent young niece will become sexually active when she isn't supervised at the mall.
it's well known that aw provide bj at 13, group sex later etc etc, across racial and class lines. who doesn't like sex or curious about it?
ok, so these days girls are giving out blowjobs at 13, more or less as part of "making out"......basically true as far as i know, but how this does me an adult male any good is basically beyond me. we are getting heavily into aimless babbling territory.
"there's not enough penis to go around."
this may in fact be the stupidest fucking thing that has ever been said on this board. i shouldn't even bother explaining this, but for the sake of whatever.......basically just about every girl who is more attractive than "slightly below average" has at least 10-15 guys in her life who would like to fuck her. there is an oversupply of penis, which makes it's value effectively zero in this country.
but if you are not yau ming, don't play basketball. everyone has their moments, the right time, the right place. if the home coming queen doesn't look at you, you are not alone. may be try the geek. your time will come.
essentially he is saying "every dog has it's day". ok, i can go along with this....when i was 15 i was fucking a smoking hot 18 year old korean girl, and when 17 i had a big titted pretty faced "princess" type. of course those days are long gone. what about the next 35-65 years of my life.
"then the college sluts. when they leave college, they are respectable again and behavior like a bitchy virgin, find a husband to treat her like a virgin queen, ration sex to control him and take advantage of him, even thought the whole football were entertained whenever the need arisen, sometimes together."
ok, i think he is saying here that some girls **** around during college, and then turn into "virginal" prudes after landing some schlub to foot the bills for him. basically what i have been complaining about for the last year plus, but......
ok, if you are pissed off by blond cheerleaders, daddy's little princess, it's pretty easy to get even, like therapy. they are a dime a dozen. the junkies. this is the least i wanted to talk about. but i include it anyway; rather relevant to this site.
ok, so now we have jumped from "daddy's little princess" to junkies. is he saying that "daddy's little princess", blonde cheerleader types become junkies?
"blond, white, barely 18. if they are any younger they are hidden underground instead of parading on the streets."
ok, i guess we are still talking about junkies.
" most sw are fucky."
what is "fucky"? i assume he means something derogatory like "fugly". wait a minute, wasn't he just saying that "blonde cheerleader types" become junkies, and presumably sw's ala "parading the streets".
" but depend on where you are, and the price, there are still many beautiful sw among the numerous fucky sws. with drugs, they are very slim. walking around all night, i've seen very gorgeous legs. at the outside, very cute. very good genes, tall, slender, cheerleader material. they talk as if they have a very good family, like rich daddy's little girl."
we have confirmation....he is in fact asserting that some streetwalkers are in fact fallen "daddy's little princess types", who are not "fucky".
"but when the clothes are off, you can see some effect of drug use on the body. the effect is light for early stage of addiction, but i like flawless, that's why i avoid junkies."
ok, so now junkie streetwalkers are not good, even though they may in fact be fallen blonde cheerleader "daddies little princess" types. hey, i thought he was going to tell us how to get laid? could it possibly be that we are back in pointless babbling territory here?
"with experience of pimps and drug craving, they behave extremely well like having gone to finishing school."
this sentence doesn't make sense. perhaps if we assume in a kind and not bashing him for not having complete command of english, manner that he meant "despite experience of pimps and drug craving, they behave exteremely well like having gone to finishing school". however, this seems to contradict his previous sentence, where he was just asserting that blonde cheerleader daddies little princess junke streetwalkers are a less than ideal solution. as, under this scenario, he is putting forth one assertion, and then in the next line, presumably putting forth not a supporting, but a contradictory point, i am again calling pointless babbling.
with under $100, your getting laid fantasy with whoever in the past are fulfilled and i doubt if you will repeatedly complain about how bitchy aw are here again.
ok, so here we should appearently go fuck blonde cheerleader daddies little princess type junkie streetwalkers, even though they appearently aren't up to his standards. i guess this is the "how to get laid" part. of course, we have all the problems of disease, theft, law enforcement, potentially having your car confirep001ed, public humiliation in the newspaper and on billboards...........
many more to come about drug free, disease free blond cheer leader types and others.
ok, so now he is going to tell us how to find and fuck non-junkie, disease free cheerleader type daddies little princess streetwalkers.....unlikely but...
another reason i avoid junkies is that, money cannot buy happiness, but you can buy smile as the asian will say. junkies just make me sad. look at this recent [url=http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=7076931]story[/url].
again, junkies bad. the link leads to some goofy profile on a "friendster" type site, which is probably more or less a joke. i have no idea what the relevance is to that, except that it has the picture of a fairly attractive blonde girl. i did not notice any assertion that the girl is a prostitute, or anything else to make it relevant to his "points".
"in addition, junkies are desperate at times, so just the fact that they remember you and having your phone number can be big trouble, even you just met them once."
yet even more "junkies are bad"...wait a minute, i thought this was supposed to be our solution to the aw problem.
"ps if they see the light before too late and with a successful rehab, they became daddy's princess once again. with some plastic surgery, her history is erased."
ok, apperently here he is asserting that we should out, get a blonde cheerleader daddies little princess junkie streetwalker, dry her out, and take her for enough plastic surgery that she is unrecognizeable to her former life (to the extent of my knowledge, that is beyond the limits of current technology). even if this were theoretically feasible, it sounds like a hell of a lot of trouble and expense, for a really shaky potential result. anyone know what the relapse rate is for junkies.......a what 90%-98% that she would steal all of your stuff and hit the streets again? i personally think i would much rather go and bring back a nice girl from asia, eastern europe, or south america than go to this trouble.
it's easy to find a bf with a trust fund etc.
probably not so much for someone who gives blowjobs to get money for smack or crack.
they may be indifference to sex and jumpy sometimes, but that became class.
this makes no sense.
once in a blue moon they may give a slurpy blowjob under the influence of alcohol.
and this was desirable why? i thought we were getting the grand plan for how to make our lives better.
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there is nothing worse than a clueless dipshit who thinks that knows "the score"
b9k
ps hey dj...."my name is "a pimp called slickback""....nooooooo....not "slickback"...."a pimp called slickback"....like "a tribe called quest".......lord, guide my pimp hand......
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In all sincerity,
It occurs to me that I MAY have been a bit harsh with James.
Obviously, he is clueless, but despite this he is holding forth in a pseudo-authoritative manner on a subject he knows nothing about. This is something that I have a personal issue with. However, in this context, it isn't a shooting offense.
It occurs to me that James could be a poor immigrant, the product of a deficient education, who was never instructed in logic, or the proper way to analyze a subject, come to a conclusion, take a position, and support it in writing. Having myself recieved an elementary and high school education that was relatively deficient, I can sympathize with this.
Also, it occurred to me that his post that I just ripped apart could in fact be a very lame and inept (possibly fueled by cultural differences, although that is a stretch) attempt at humor.
If any of the above does apply, I do apologize....In the future however, do kindly attempt not to hold forth about subjects that you have a less than reasonable grasp on.