[QUOTE=Capt Ajax]Interesting RN, are you married or single right now?[/QUOTE]
Right now, I'm in a long-term relationship...but we don't live together (both of us have been burned in the past!) I used to be married, many moons ago.
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[QUOTE=Capt Ajax]Interesting RN, are you married or single right now?[/QUOTE]
Right now, I'm in a long-term relationship...but we don't live together (both of us have been burned in the past!) I used to be married, many moons ago.
Why is it guys that even in the most primitive of societies. Deep in the amazon. In tribes which have only been discoverd. Even in those tribes where they haven't been influence my TV, media or the likes. They still have monogamous societal tendencies. Some have formal rituals, some not. But one thing they all have is where the man takes a woman and she is not shared with any others. They are mates. It mongering was truely the way man was suppose to B. Why are there so many men, even those who divorce. Go back to monogamous relationships. Domald trump has. No matter how much money his wife took from him. Look at most famous millionare men. Who can have flocks of women. Constantly. Most get married.
Men who think of mongering as a way of life probably make up less than 2 or 3 % of men. Sure guys monger. But how many think that is the way they want to spend their entire life. A small percentage of those who even monger. Most do it for a period of time. Find a good woman. Then get out of the game. Its just natural. Thats all I'm saying.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865] Look at most famous millionare men. Who can have flocks of women. Constantly. Most get married.[/QUOTE]
most men, rich or otherwise are total fools when it comes to this
name ONE advantage marriage gives a man
If one considers for example the IQ quotient of people, the higher the intelligence score, the LOWER the percentile or individuals who are that smart. Through this forum, we figured out and decoded the system. It is NOT favorable to men. Period. If everyone was as enlightened as the few of US who get it, that AW’s are a complete waste of time, then we would be subjected to the same ridiculously, one sided blueprint of one sided decisions by the Sex Prison system of jurisprudence when it comes to settling even the most amicable of disputes between the sexes.
I can tell you from experience, that even if a person did not engage in dirt (The male), and the female did, the male is still likely to be sodomized by this so called system of justice of ours. It is a life lesson many of us have survived and have re-awaken to find the pure joy of being in a system where men make the rules: Anywhere else but in Sex Prison and most developed nations.
I am gleeful when listening to AW’s labeling me and the few of us who get it with many unflattering compliments because I would not give them the time of day. I don’t care about their opinions in that matter. Really. Can you win an argument with an inanimate object? No. But I tell you what: When I travel, I know what I’m going to get from every female I meet and having relations away from the walls of Sex Prison overseas. Do you know what she is getting from me: My time, very little cash if any and a bunch of nuts. If I was to act similarly here, I would have support her for the rest of her life, give up assets, pay off HER debt, pay, pay, pay, and after paying for a lot, pay for much more. From a value standpoint, which is actually more beneficial for the AM?
I too was a damned fool once. I bought into the system, got married, and yes got beaotchslapped for my efforts by the system. But I learned from the error and I will never, ever, do that again. Promise :D
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865]Why is it guys that even in the most primitive of societies. Deep in the amazon. In tribes which have only been discoverd. Even in those tribes where they haven't been influence my TV, media or the likes. They still have monogamous societal tendencies. Some have formal rituals, some not. But one thing they all have is where the man takes a woman and she is not shared with any others. They are mates. It mongering was truely the way man was suppose to B. Why are there so many men, even those who divorce. Go back to monogamous relationships. Domald trump has. No matter how much money his wife took from him. Look at most famous millionare men. Who can have flocks of women. Constantly. Most get married.
Men who think of mongering as a way of life probably make up less than 2 or 3 % of men. Sure guys monger. But how many think that is the way they want to spend their entire life. A small percentage of those who even monger. Most do it for a period of time. Find a good woman. Then get out of the game. Its just natural. Thats all I'm saying.[/QUOTE]
That's all your saying but you're WRONG.....
Most primitive tribes are NOT monogamous... they are anything but....
Only with the dominance of that dangerous bullshit we call christianity did people start thinking in those terms... and hey, did you ever read about the Dark Ages? Thinks went BACKWARDS for like 1200 years because of that mode of thinking....
Fact is, people pair off and stay together for cultural and social reasons, NOT innate ones... change the culture, the behavior will revert back to its NATURAL state.... men and women looking for as much VARIETY as possible....
98% of human sperm is designed not to impregnate a female but to destroy other sperm... I think that says it all...
[QUOTE=Robert1110]most men, rich or otherwise are total fools when it comes to (marriage).
name ONE advantage marriage gives a man[/QUOTE]The kids are more likely to reach adulthood and have kids of their own if the father sticks around and provides for the kids while they're growing up. This difference is more marked at a hunter-gatherer level of society, which is how [I]Homo sapiens[/I] has spent the overwhelming majority of its time on Earth; but this advantage continues into the agricultural level, and even into the industrial and technological level of society.
A child of our species takes 12-15 years to reach sexual maturity. During that time the child needs a lot of nurturing, [I]and good food, [/I] to grow up healthy and strong. The father who sticks around and provides for his offspring is more likely to have his DNA stay and spread in the gene-pool, right? At the same time, his chances are diluted if his mate "plays around. " So faithful pair-bonding, I. E. Marriage, is important to the survival of the man's genotype. Add in the modern, agricultural and post-agricultural concepts of "property" and "inheritance, " and it becomes even more significant to have a strong pair-bond and sexual exclusivity.
And, given the importance of having a "good provider" to raise healthy children, the woman in these pre-industrial societies would have a significant stake in making sure the father supports her and their children. Anything she can do to keep the father interested in sticking around is a worthwhile investment in [I]her[/I] genetic future, too! So, in that model, the woman who "keeps her man happy" can hang on to a "good provider" to her immediate and future benefit.
From this, I believe we can impute the value of "love & marriage" to the continued survival of "our individual, genetic heritage. " Add the modern concepts of "property" "wealth" and "inheritance" [I]plus[/I] the dictates of religion, and we REALLY raise the stakes at the marriage table! Thus you get "The Donald" cleaving unto a trophy wife, or a succession of trophy wives; or, in a far-different culture, the Sultan and his harem.
Today's American culture has raised the bar so much on "successful providing" that the male has to work almost impossibly hard to "make it".
[QUOTE=Robert1110]
>>Originally Posted by ThatGuy865
>>Look at most famous millionare men. Who can have flocks of women. >>Constantly. Most get married.
most men, rich or otherwise are total fools when it comes to this
name ONE advantage marriage gives a man[/QUOTE]Yeap. One friend in eastern europe who is a millionarie, his ex wife was pretty ugly, also cheated, they got divorced after she got pregnant from another guy. She still kept a fancy apartment and a car.
Another american guy, who's also pretty rich, got married with a quite buttugly eastern european girl. He even used to travel to some "mongering" destinations for some other reason, without any clue about available girls. He did not even expect that there are other women exist or whatever.
[QUOTE=Robert1110]most men, rich or otherwise are total fools when it comes to this
name ONE advantage marriage gives a man[/QUOTE]In USA and its laws very likely it might give much trouble. But in the place where I might marry, traditionally your wife is supposed to support you in everything(and you her too of course), she can be very beautiful, family oriented, cooks well, always there for you. Also she always knows there are many other women who would be happy to be in her place, so she won't do much stupid things. I would guess that USA(and similar countires) is kinda opposite.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]That's all your saying but you're WRONG.....
Most primitive tribes are NOT monogamous... they are anything but....
Only with the dominance of that dangerous bullshit we call christianity did people start thinking in those terms... and hey, did you ever read about the Dark Ages? Thinks went BACKWARDS for like 1200 years because of that mode of thinking....
Fact is, people pair off and stay together for cultural and social reasons, NOT innate ones... change the culture, the behavior will revert back to its NATURAL state.... men and women looking for as much VARIETY as possible....
98% of human sperm is designed not to impregnate a female but to destroy other sperm... I think that says it all...[/QUOTE]From where do you get this information? What have you read (if anything at all) that demonstrates it at length? Are you saying that some sperm cells are "natural killer cells"? And the other 2% are for impregnation?
[QUOTE=Helpmann]You're preaching to the choir. American Men have fucked up San Jose, Sosua, Rio, and will probably fuck-up Bangkok if the biatch slappin' Japanese men leave.
-Helpmann :)[/QUOTE]Helpmann,
I'm not quite sure what you're implying about Japanese men but it comes across that you feel they are keeping the prices down with their "biatch slappin'". Far from it, these guys have fucked up soi 33, Thermae and the Rainbows in NEP. They are nasty little gropers and the only reason the girls tolerate it is that they can charge high prices with these guys. I will admit that some American guys are overpaying and it needs to stop, but it is not always about "I have the money", many times they are naive and overwhelmed due to lack of pussy. If they understood the deal and the prices from the outset, I think you would find that they would not overpay. So instead of bitching and moaning lets give out what we are paying for st and lt to give some guys perspective. Yes, we Americans might need some guidance at the outset, but once we are set on the right track then we can bargain with the best of them. I tend to look at the whole thing as buying a used car, or at least renting a car.
the ideal is you have one woman (yours only) and a few others on the side. so the one has your kids who inherit your junk when you pass on.
then you just sow your wild oats with the rest, if the oatlings make it great, if not, well, you have your one woman.
this rather successful guy, just by putting half his energy into the real family insures those kids carry on.
the other half he throws around as best he can.
the woman may not be happy she's only getting half, but she knows wny other successful guy would be the same, knows in the end getting half from this guy is still a good deal, and looks the other way.
a woman really doesn't benefit as much from sowing her oats. she just plows everything into the kids with the one man.
she MIGHT sow her oats if she thinks (1) the guy she has won't notice/care because he's a loser or (2) the guy she has just isn't capable of doing the job himself.
now there are some guys who have trouble supporting just one woman.
that guy focuses everything on the one.
she knows she isn't that hot either. so she focuses on him as well. this couple together can somehow manage. so they don't want to rock the boat.
marriage keeps all these women happy, since it guarantees their kids come out better than if they were by themselves.
then there are the women who become the fields for the wild oats. we all know and love them. that field is open to whoever wants to plow it.
what about the men who can't get a woman? sometimes they stray into the wild oat field that got left open for a few days. most of the time they are under a bridge.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865]Why is it guys that even in the most primitive of societies. Deep in the amazon. In tribes which have only been discoverd. Even in those tribes where they haven't been influence my TV, media or the likes. They still have monogamous societal tendencies. Some have formal rituals, some not. But one thing they all have is where the man takes a woman and she is not shared with any others. They are mates. It mongering was truely the way man was suppose to B. Why are there so many men, even those who divorce. Go back to monogamous relationships. Domald trump has. No matter how much money his wife took from him. Look at most famous millionare men. Who can have flocks of women. Constantly. Most get married.
Men who think of mongering as a way of life probably make up less than 2 or 3 % of men. Sure guys monger. But how many think that is the way they want to spend their entire life. A small percentage of those who even monger. Most do it for a period of time. Find a good woman. Then get out of the game. Its just natural. Thats all I'm saying.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]That's all your saying but you're WRONG.....
Most primitive tribes are NOT monogamous... they are anything but....
Only with the dominance of that dangerous bullshit we call christianity did people start thinking in those terms... and hey, did you ever read about the Dark Ages? Thinks went BACKWARDS for like 1200 years because of that mode of thinking....
Fact is, people pair off and stay together for cultural and social reasons, NOT innate ones... change the culture, the behavior will revert back to its NATURAL state.... men and women looking for as much VARIETY as possible....
98% of human sperm is designed not to impregnate a female but to destroy other sperm... I think that says it all...[/QUOTE]You have got to be kidding. Most tribes. Read about any amazon triB. And they still ahve them where their is, and has not been any christian influence. They may be poygamous. But still that only means the man may have 2 maybe 3 wives. But he isn't sharing them with anyone. Also he is providing for them. And is committed to them. Jealousy is a innate condition in 99% of humans. The is no society known to man who society had total open non committal sex partners. Where anyone could fuck anyone and they was no commitment on anyones part.
And as far as your sperm theory. Thats just out right wrong. Your problem is probably lack of comprehension. What you are talking about is we produce a lot of sperm some of which about 1/3 are called "killer" sperm. Which yes kills sperm but not your own sperm.
If 2 men both have sex with a woman and both cum inside her. One guy's "killer" sperm would try to attack the OTHER guys sperm, to give the other sperm on his team a better chance at impregnanting the worman. They don't kill their own "brothers" or teammates. They are the team "hit squad" sort of speak. I just happen to have a doctor in the famiiy.
There's a really fascinating 3-part doco series called [i]"Dr Tatiana's Sex Advice to All Creation"[/i]. According to the website it hasn't been approved for screening in the USA, but it's been shown in Australia, UK, France, etc and it's definitely worth a look if you can get your hands on it.
The second episode talks about female promiscuity and the commonly-held belief that women are inherently compelled to seek out a 'good provider'. According to this doco, that's only HALF true. Using examples from the animal kingdom, it shows that females are looking for two very separate things when it comes to having children...a safe and secure home [b]and[/b] 'superior' male genes.
In practice, this means the female seeks out a stable and supportive provider to build her nest/home with - preferably one that isn't overly fit or attractive, so no other females will steal him away and threaten her family's security. She then goes out and screws as many young, fit, healthy, attractive men as she can, forcing their sperm to compete*, with only the strongest sperm (presumably from the healthiest male) resulting in pregnancy. Dr Tatiana's research finds that in many species, females are actually MORE promiscuous than males are.
Both sexes have an inherent urge to ensure survival of the species, but they do it in different ways. Women can only have one baby every year or so, so they're more likely to have frequent sex with one particularly desirable male, to increase the potential of 'superior' offspring (affairs). Men can father many babies simultaneously, so they're more likely to be indiscriminate in their choice of partners and just 'spread it around' to increase the overall number of offspring (variety). The doco suggests that this male tendency towards indiscriminate sex leads to various forms of [b]prostitution[/b] in the animal kingdom, with females taking advantage of the males' need for variety and using it to set herself up for her eventual role as mother and home-maker (extra food for physical health, 'currency' in the form of nest-building materials, etc).
Obviously this is just one theory from one doco, and there are many competing theories out there, but this one made a lot of sense to me when I watched it. I'd be interested to hear what you guys think?
* This idea of sperm competing might support Bango's comment about some sperm being designed solely to kill other sperm?
[QUOTE=Goga Fung]In USA and its laws very likely it might give much trouble. But in the place where I might marry, traditionally your wife is supposed to support you in everything(and you her too of course), she can be very beautiful, family oriented, cooks well, always there for you. Also she always knows there are many other women who would be happy to be in her place, so she won't do much stupid things. I would guess that USA(and similar countires) is kinda opposite.[/QUOTE]What or where is this place?
It just sounds right compared to our AW culture.
[QUOTE=Crazy Jim Wood]the ideal is you have one woman (yours only) and a few others on the side. so the one has your kids who inherit your junk when you pass on.[/QUOTE]
This is the (developed by Christianity) idea of male 'ownership' of women and children, as a way of ensuring that your wife only bears *your* children. In this day and age, where women have access to birth control and can pick and choose when they get pregnant, it is completely irrelevant.
Extra-marital sexual activity is no longer directly related to childbearing. As far as I'm concerned, if my partner believes he has the 'right' to screw around for fun or variety, then so do I. End of story.