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[QUOTE=Bango Cheito;1306284]You're vastly overestimating the US economy. These days there are a lot of hella desparate AW but they continue being frigid insipid bitches.[/QUOTE]I agree with you about the economy in America, I'm back here after leaving (again) for almost fourteen months and outside of a few areas (Silicon Valley, for example) the economic situation overall is still pretty bad. There doesn't seem to have been a real recovery. Lots of people I know are living on credit (student loans, credit cards, etc.) but that's unsustainable and at some point that bubble will pop too.
Having said that, I must say that the price of paid pussy in this country has come down; it seems you can get decent looking girls for a quickie at under $100 bucks a pop; if you like fatties the prices are even lower. Of course stunners are still pricey but that's to be expected, I guess.
Some on here call this place sex prison, but check out some of the online sites and find a couple of regulars and it's not all that bad. Might explain why international mongering locales seem to have fewer western mongers participating than before; just basing this on my trip to the Philippines last month where the majority of the bars were either semi-empty, or full of Asian sex tourists. Sometimes, I'd be the only American in the bar.
Any thoughts on this? Are more of you mongers on here banging AWs?
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I said it was about ECONOMICS. Not the ECONOMY.
AW have more opportunities for upward mobility. Career options. More Financially capable / independent.
In most of the countries guys talk about. For women to afford to have kids (which most women want). They need another income for the most part from a man. Or they fall deep into poverty
Where A LOT of AW can afford to raise / have a family and luxuries. Without a man. This makes them less dependent on men and the ability to be choosy.
I concede. It might be a sex prison for some guys. Especially the undesirable, who are rarely chosen. For those guys it is a sex prison.
There will always be a percentage of guys who will be unhappy. No matter what the situation.
If women were walking around in thongs and have sex with every guy that asked. There would be guys on here complaining. AW are nothing but sluts.
So I guess you guys fit into that percentage unhappy with the current environment. But Marriages happen in EVERY city EVERY day of the year. So guys are finding AW sexy and desirable.
But of course. Its easier to blame the women. Right!
TG. Keeping it real.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1306009].
I definitely can't blame them. While I like late 20's and early 30 yr old women to FUCK. Every time I see a guy over 50 with a woman more than 15 yrs younger. It creeps me out. So I can definitely understand it. I can't see why any woman with anything going for herself, would date a guy that much older. Unless he was keeping her knee deep in luxuries she can't afford for herself.
If I personally knew a woman that did. I would comment about it as I have in the past. If / when I saw a girl out with a older guy. I would pass them my number and tell her."Call me. Once Grandpa goes to bed". Or anything to that effect. They always laughed and took the number. Not saying they all called. But none. NONE. Ever defended the guy, cause they knew it was about the money. And was laughing at him.[/QUOTE]I don't understand. When I was 24 with a good banking job and a new apartment in the Gold Coast and I had a line of women knocking at my door, was it because I was so special and they were all in real love with me? In those days, I thought I was keeping it real by seeing myself as a tool for a woman to meet there social and financial needs. If it's just about the money, can someone explain to me why it feels exactly the same when I meet an Eastern European significantly younger than me as compared to those twenty something days of mine.
I don't understand why ThatGuy thinks he's a better fit and entitled to some girl than grandpa. I thought we lived in America, where all men are not created equal.
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[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi;1306533]An educated upper-middle class man can still be in sex prison in the United States even if he is chosen by an American woman for a relationship or marriage. There are numerous financially successful and attractive men stuck in sexless or sexually dysfunctional marriages or relationships to American women in the United States.[/QUOTE]Well that is nobody's fault but his own. Get out of the relationship if it is not giving you what you need. The door swings both ways.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1306355]I said it was about ECONOMICS. Not the ECONOMY.
AW have more opportunities for upward mobility. Career options. More Financially capable / independent.
In most of the countries guys talk about. For women to afford to have kids (which most women want). They need another income for the most part from a man. Or they fall deep into poverty
Where A LOT of AW can afford to raise / have a family and luxuries. Without a man. This makes them less dependent on men and the ability to be choosy.
I concede. It might be a sex prison for some guys. Especially the undesirable, who are rarely chosen. For those guys it is a sex prison.
There will always be a percentage of guys who will be unhappy. No matter what the situation.
If women were walking around in thongs and have sex with every guy that asked. There would be guys on here complaining. AW are nothing but sluts.
So I guess you guys fit into that percentage unhappy with the current environment. But Marriages happen in EVERY city EVERY day of the year. So guys are finding AW sexy and desirable.
But of course. Its easier to blame the women. Right!
TG. Keeping it real.[/QUOTE]Except for girls in the US really DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE ANYMORE. That may have been true 20 years ago, not so much anymore. I don't know how anybody could be naive enough to believe that an AW can just go ahead and have kids at will and be able to support them with ANY decent lifestyle with absolutely no outside help. And from what I've seen from my month here in the UK is that it's even LESS possible here.
There are acres and acres of fat stupid boring ugly poorly dressed Colombian men not getting any from Colombian women as well. And acres and acres of Colombian working girls go home cold dry and broke every night, the expectation gap is huge all over, but all is said and done, there is a LOT more sex going on per capita in Colombia than in the USA. AW are dumb enough to let themselves get caught on film, THAT is the big difference!
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American Women
"But Marriages happen in EVERY city EVERY day of the year. So guys are finding AW sexy and desirable."
Nope I disagree, these people are compromising and have low expectations. Or they resign themselves to the only reality that they know.
Forget about Russia and Ukraine, where the girls are hot and the guys awful, so mongers have a lot of choice.
I went to a college campus with some of the most sexy girls around in the USA. I thought I knew what a beautiful girl was. Then just after graduating I went to Sweden, as soon as I got of the plane, I realised in no time what beauty really was.
Swedish girls have some of the same values, American girls have, but they are far more attractive and sexy. American girls are just not attractive or sexy by and large.
Eastern European girls are super sexy with the right attitude, Swedish girls are quite sexy with the wrong attitude.
This is not only about economic alternatives and choice, American girls are really few people's cup of tea, once Americans have been abroad, Colombia, Costa Rica, Brazil, Paraguay, Argentina, Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Czech Republic, Romania, Serbia, Croatia and so on.
They realize how unsexy and unattractive American women are.
There are a few gems to be had, but not that many.
I would tell people in the US, take the best 10% here and that is the Swedish average. By the way go to Slovakia and it gets better.
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[QUOTE=Delta Indigo; 1306890]I went to a college campus with some of the most sexy girls around in the USA. I thought I knew what a beautiful girl was. Then just after graduating I went to Sweden, as soon as I got of the plane, I realised in no time what beauty really was.
Swedish girls have some of the same values, American girls have, but they are far more attractive and sexy. American girls are just not attractive or sexy by and large.[/QUOTE]Beauty and sexiness is different things to different people and by and large can not be quantified. I find a good number of AWs sexy and to my taste. It is their bad attitudes that I have a problem with.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1306910]Beauty can not be quantified.[/QUOTE]Beauty can be quantified. Any talent scout will tell you that it is anything but subjective.
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[QUOTE=Prosal;1306924]Beauty can be quantified. Any talent scout will tell you that it is anything but subjective.[/QUOTE]Well there are certainly norms of beauty which differ in different societies and change with the ages. But I know from my own obsessions with certain types that beauty is very much in the eye of the beholder. I friend of mine finds women who most of us would call obese unbearably attractive. I have spoken with him and I honestly can say that he feels about them the same way I feel about 20 something, skinny EE girls. The only diference is that my idea of beauty (perhaps I should say hot) tends to conform more to the norm. More fool me really. This guy has his pick of girls as he lives in the Land 'o Lard, the USA.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1306934]Well there are certainly norms of beauty which differ in different societies and change with the ages.[/QUOTE]Exactly.
[QUOTE=Prosal;1306924]Beauty can be quantified. Any talent scout will tell you that it is anything but subjective.[/QUOTE]Would this talent scout happen to be in Eastern Europe or West Africa?
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1306936]Exactly.
Would this talent scout happen to be in Eastern Europe or Central Africa?[/QUOTE]No matter the skin color. But it is not only a question of mensurations, height, bust and waist measurement, marked camber, impish nose, mellow lips, or of perfect geometry between eyes interval and neck nobility. Beauty is very much a mathematic equation. Any specialist will tell you that per exemple, the distance between the base of the nose and the chin must be the same than between the crest of the forehead and the eyebrows. Or the lenght of the mouth must be 2. 5 its width. Or if you divide the girl's height by the distance between the ground and the navel, you must obtain a certain "Golden" number. Among other recognized criterions. Esthete's criterions, or what is universally recognized as measures of beauty.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1306934]Well there are certainly norms of beauty which differ in different societies.[/QUOTE]Not so. The norms are now universal. Look at China, which is ranked third in plastic surgeries, with more than million operations annually. Chinese women operate their eyes to appear larger, raise the bridge of the nose to make it more prominent, sculpt their cheekbones, ect. Not even talking about skin whitening.
The UNIVERSAL norm is those girls that one see in the glam magazines. It's a pure fact.