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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1622962]And in this highly charged domestic violence atmosphere, lets ditch the fucking double standard that if she slaps the shyt out of you in the face like a g damned man, she can't be hit back like one! Dude, you really need to cut off your balls and turn in your man card.[/QUOTE]I know it was wrong but I have to say I can understand.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1622922] Actually in the USA Women will probably be doing much better than men. As more women are getting college degrees than men now.
This is partly what contributes to some men's problem with AW. Because. AW do not have to settle or put up with a man that they feel doesn't fit their needs. Fewer need a man for financial support as in other countries, especially compared to women from 3rd world countries.
[/QUOTE]Good! I'm happy for them. Too bad they are not just as happy:
[B]Why Are So Many Professional Millennial Women Unable To Find Dateable Men?[/B]
FORBESWOMAN 12/05/2012 @ 11:50AM
Larissa Faw
Contributor
"My Millennial-aged girl friends and I never doubted that we would accomplish all of our life goals. Everything, thus far, has pretty much gone according to our plans. We were accepted into the right college, landed the dream job, and developed a network of amazing friends. Our apartments are beautifully decorated and we have closets full of stylish clothing. Romance hasn't been entirely sidelined, but we don't waste our time trying to cultivate a relationship unless someone is really amazing.
But now, a growing number of Millennial women are beginning to fret over the unanticipated consequences of prioritizing our careers before love. And I only need to look at my group of friends to see this reality. Again and again, year after year, my successful, gorgeous, and amazing friends remain kiss-less on New Year's Eve. And on Valentine's Day. And on the 4th of July. The only dateable men we encounter are either attached, gay, or otherwise involved in "it's complicated" situations. We are coming to the realization that we were unwittingly playing a game of musical chairs while everyone was pairing up, those focused on our careers are left standing alone.
And we can't figure out what is happening.
"I don't think the issue is that men used to be great and now they're not," says Jezebel's Katie J. M. Baker. "Women used to feel more pressure to get married and have kids earlier, and prioritize those goals above the others. " Add to that women's ability now to be self-sufficient financially and supported socially by so many friends in the same boat, it shouldn't be that surprising so many Millennial women are single. Except to us singletons, it isn't supposed to be this way.
When it comes to romance, Millennial women are typically described using several broad strokes that don't reflect nuance or contradictions. We are the hook-up generation. We are afraid of commitment. We are ball-busters or fairy-tale dreamers. Each clich may have elements of truth, but the fuller story is a result of several influencing and interconnected factors.
For one, it's not as if we are holding out for Jake Gyllenhaal, but we do have certain non-negotiable expectations for potential mates that include college degrees and white-collar jobs. Life has always gone according to our plans, so why wouldn't we land a man with these (reasonable) requirements?
This unwillingness to settle for less than we think we deserve is joined by a lax attitude towards searching for potential mates. We're busy dominating the world. We don't have time to hang out at bars. While some of us explore online dating or take a more proactive approach, the majority of Millennial women have long assumed we would meet Prince Charming via friends, or through their own social circles. "Why should we waste our precious time and energy unless we meet someone we really connect with and care about?" asks Baker. "I think it's great that Millennial women are picky and don't feel as much pressure to be in monogamous relationships as did previous generations. I do think all Millennials, not just women, are used to the idea of being able to 'curate' experiences that's why so many people are into online dating, because you can pick and choose character traits and that makes people wary about settling down, especially when, in a city like New York, there are so many options. ".
Unfortunately these assumptions bump up against the growing inequality between the two genders. Millennial women have taken it for granted that they will pair up with equal partners. But increasingly, there aren't enough of these men to go around. Women now outnumber men on college campuses, and single, childless women out earn their male counterparts. In fact, as author Liza Mundy writes in her book, The Richer Sex, Millennial women are increasingly finding two options when it comes to romance: marry down or don't marry. "There needs to be a cognitive behavior change in what are considered important traits," says Mundy. "I talk to so many women who are obsessed with finding men on their level. They want someone as ambitious, engaged, and high-achieving as they are. They maybe need to rethink that to seek a partner who is supportive, rather than competitive. ".
Full Article: [URL]http://www.forbes.com/sites/larissafaw/2012/12/05/why-are-so-many-professional-millennial-women-unable-to-find-dateable-men/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1623018]Good! I'm happy for them. Too bad they are not just as happy:[/QUOTE]The article states they are having a hard time finding a man they want. But no where does it say they are not HAPPY.
Just [B] they are having a hard time finding the man of their dreams [/B] college degree, white collar, willing to accept them as an equal.
Even with that. I don't see them going back to the "1950's" type of woman.
Many of the complaining guys seek. The "agree with what I say, Fuck me, clean the house and be happy for that. If it don't work out. Leave with only the clothes on your back and don't let the door hit you in the ass". Type of woman.
3rd world woman are still the [B]DEPENDENT[/B] type with very little means of supporting themselves beyond basic needs. . And perceive western men as rich. So of course guys get treated good.
If they bring the women get to the USA And if given the opportunity to learn how to earn a decent wage. Then many leave these same guys.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1621899]....... He said in America a woman's biggest fear is that you don't want to fuck them. Once that happens they realize they have no more power over you and you have the power.
....[/QUOTE]Applies to Canadian women as well. As soon as I realized that I could fuck a never ending stream of different beautiful young women, for a small fee compaired to what my 50+ year old 50+ pounds overweight wife was costing me, she lost all power over me and it was all over for us then.
Now in the Philippines having spend a month with an 18 year old beauty, got her cherry and will be moving on in another couple months to find another one.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1623046] they are having a hard time finding the man of their dreams college degree, white collar, willing to accept them as an equal..[/QUOTE]And many a good hard-working blue collar man is perceived as unworthy by these unrealistic princess bearers of Master degrees. The handsome, white collar Anglo is too busy fucking everything before he is ready to settle down, if he really has any brains. Hell, they're even selling sperm. When women stop listening to their friends, start running out of eggs at age 30, then the plumber and bus driver starts looking good enough. And if not, now they're having kids alone and becoming lesbians. This is the new American household.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1623046]Many of the complaining guys seek. The "agree with what I say, Fuck me, clean the house and be happy for that. If it don't work out. Leave with only the clothes on your back and don't let the door hit you in the ass". Type of woman...[/QUOTE]Guilty. Actually I don't let it get that far by moving them in or putting a ring on it.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1623046]3rd world woman are still the [B]DEPENDENT[/B] type with very little means of supporting themselves beyond basic needs. . And perceive western men as rich. So of course guys get treated good...[/QUOTE]So. Ignorance= Bliss. God bless them.
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If they bring the women get to the USA And if given the opportunity to learn how to earn a decent wage. Then many leave these same guys.[/QUOTE]Many of them have advanced degrees without the femi-nazi mindset, and only want a good guy. They just run into obstacles in their own country (have to fuck to get a job, nepotism, tribalism) and are very appreciative of a man that lifts their life.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1623046]The article states they are having a hard time finding a man they want. But no where does it say they are not HAPPY.
Just [B] they are having a hard time finding the man of their dreams [/B] college degree, white collar, willing to accept them as an equal.
[/QUOTE]Read the comments section of the article and you will understand why white collar men are not looking for white collar women. This one pretty much sums up the majority of responses:
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"Hello, and thank you for the great article. I think the article itself contains at least some answers to the question posed. Being overconfident, overly ambitious and otherwise "fabulous" is not attractive to men; not to straight men anyway. A man wants to date a woman, not another successful, clean-cut, well dressed, well groomed man. No, this doesn't mean she has to be in the kitchen all day, but more and more guys and more and more articles all around the web talk about the importance of women being feminine and nurturing.
A woman whose main goal in life is getting that corner office, and who radiates the energy of a male stock broker when she walks around is not a turn on sensually or sexually to men.
Being "too picky" is nothing but self defense mechanism to make oneself feel more at peace with not meeting and not connecting with men.
Surely many or most guys out there, at least at some stage in their life, want to just have sex with as many women as possible for as little time as possible, and some guys never outgrow that stage. But the other men those who are interested in settling are not looking for a business partner or an employee. They are looking for a mother to their future children, a soft hand, a soft voice and a few other grossly underrate traditional qualities that can go hand in hand with education, and at least some careers. "
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I (SavePros) work a so-called "white collar" job with women who make just as much as me, if not more. All these broads around the office talk about is when and where the next "happy hour" is happening, and hitting the club Wednesday-Saturday. I remember back in my Navy days how we used to joke and brag about getting "wasted" over the weekend, but to hear my 23 yr old female coworker brag about getting "fucked up" sound so damn trashy. Who would want to marry a broad who can drink him under the table and is in the club every weekend?
And like Naked Gunz has mentioned: (for a woman) that biological clock is always ticking:
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz;1623329]When women stop listening to their friends, start running out of eggs at age 30, then the plumber and bus driver starts looking good enough.
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It's so funny how when I log into Plenty of Fish I am bomb-rushed by a slew of 28-35 yr old women who have NOW decided that they "don't want to be a h0e no moe" and are now looking to settle down. But they are all damaged goods at that point. Once, sometimes twice divorced; 1-3 kids to take care of, overweight, and an emotional wreck. And some of them (the more attractive ones) still don't learn. I had one chick who I had met on the website and talked to briefly over the phone later that evening (a Friday evening). She had to end the call once she picked up her daughter from school. She calls me back later that night while on her way to the club after leaving her daughter with a babysitter. She went out of her way to let me know that she was wanting to return my call from earlier that day, as if that was somehow going to earn her extra points with me for being "thoughtful" as she headed to the club for the night, lmao!
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1623343]I (SavePros) work a so-called "white collar" job with women who make just as much as me, if not more. [/QUOTE]SavePros. I agree with much you say. I am not saying there are a lot of men are attracted to this type of woman. Just that is a choice they have made and while many regret the "maternal" aspect of their lives. I doubt many would reverse their decisions. You don't see many lowering their sites and marrying blue collar guys.
I am saying I can understand their reluctance to want to deal with a man who is not on their level. I travel, have had a ton of 3rd world women, but I too find it hard to consider one for a long term relationship. I can't have a conversation on anything of substance, forget anything remotely worldly. Most think purely on a emotional level. And then the age difference puts an even bigger gap of knowledge between us. I'm sure there are guys who are happy with, just young, dumb and full of cum types. But for me. I like to be able to hold a conversation about things above an elementary level.
3rd world women, even with Advanced degrees. If not given the opportunity to use it to its fullest. Will still have that dependent nature. It reinforces that dependency even more. Since they did the schooling and still can't make it on their own.
But you will notice most (of course there are always exception) 3rd world women who have money, that come from wealthy families. Do not tend to date foreigners or if they do. They are the same guys that AW would date. Age appropriate, in shape. And well off too.
This show that [B]no matter where a woman is from .. if she knows she is financially capable[/B] . She will most likely not be the "Do as I say" type that most on here who complain about AW, aspire to find.
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And now I see where Texas Rangers' manager Ron Washington quit his millions of dollars per year job because he got some strange pussy. How does that make sense?
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1623343]
It's so funny how when I log into Plenty of Fish I am bomb-rushed by a slew of 28-35 yr old women who have NOW decided that they "don't want to be a h0e no moe" and are now looking to settle down. But they are all damaged goods at that point. Once, sometimes twice divorced; 1-3 kids to take care of, overweight, and an emotional wreck. And some of them (the more attractive ones) still don't learn. I had one chick who I had met on the website and talked to briefly over the phone later that evening (a Friday evening). She had to end the call once she picked up her daughter from school. She calls me back later that night while on her way to the club after leaving her daughter with a babysitter. She went out of her way to let me know that she was wanting to return my call from earlier that day, as if that was somehow going to earn her extra points with me for being "thoughtful" as she headed to the club for the night, lmao![/QUOTE]For Black women the search is even harder because attractive Black women are extremely high maintenance and material (nails, weaves, shoes, BMW or Mercedes, designer this and that) so them finding a brother with $, advanced degrees that puts up with their shyt is needle in a haystack probability. I had an attractive mid-thirties Physician APPROACH ME on an online site. She called and immediately started attacking me:
She: What kind of degree do you have?
Me: Bachelors. (I lied, I have an AS).
She: THAT's LIKE A GED now days! How many kids do you have?
Me: One. (That's true)
She: I bet your lying and I bet five!
Me: And why the fuck did you call?
She: Click! Dial tone. I was so in shock, I didn't have a chance to comeback on that bytch. Yeah, I love American women.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1623365]For Black women the search is even harder because attractive Black women are extremely high maintenance and material (nails, weaves, shoes, BMW or Mercedes, designer this and that) so them finding a brother with $, advanced degrees that puts up with their shyt is needle in a haystack probability. I had an attractive mid-thirties Physician APPROACH ME on an online site. She called and immediately started attacking me:
She: What kind of degree do you have?
Me: Bachelors.
She: THAT's LIKE A GED now days! How many kids do you have?
Me: One.
She: I bet your lying and I bet five!
Me: And why the fuck did you call?
She: Click! Dial tone. I was so in shock, I didn't have a chance to comeback on that bytch. Yeah, I love American women.[/QUOTE]My experience on POF. She messaged me. We talked on phone a couple times, went on a happy hour date.
First problem, photo's on her profile were dated. Did not show the additional 15 lbs.
Second issue, her 45 minute rant about her ex'es.
By that time I had enough and I told her nicely that I don't think were compatable.
She asked my name again and then lit into me. I thought I was to good for her. I was mad cause I couldn't get it on the first date.
She should of known I was just another loser.
I got the bill and paid my half.
I had enough of her shit so I told her the reason I can't see her is because I am on my way to Thailand and over there, even the guys are hotter than you. I left her at the table not knowing she would be paying her half of the check.
That is why I don't bother anymore.
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American women must be #1 as the worst kind of women to date, not only do they think they are the best, but they are usually fat asses on top of it.
West Europe comes in 2nd imo and is not tied with american women as 'the worst' for the simple fact that they are not total fat asses, it's tough to find obesity on the scale of america here. They are pretty stuck up here tho.
South Americans are the most fun to be around and have the best bodies (I. E. Normal bodies), but at 30+ they seem to blow up as well.
Asia doesn't do anything for me as I never found asians attractive, and are boring as hell to be around. It's like talking to a wall.
Africans can be very attractive, but for some reason the african immigrants in europe are almost on the same level as the natives. They think they are something special (which like all women, they are not). You can find a $20 african hooker on the street and she will think she is gd's gift to planet earth.
So I guess really #1 is south america, most open, most fun, most attractive(bonus points to brazil/argentina/venzuela/colombia). Africa I have to travel to more, i've only been there once.
My 2 cents after. Damn. 15 years of mongering already, and an expat for 10.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1623375]That is why I don't bother anymore.[/QUOTE]Dating sites used to be cool, but are designed pretty much now to squeeze money from you (buying credits to read email, sending you pics of their hottest members to entice you, fake alerts to make you think "She wants to meet you! Now their angle is just short of actual porn by having pics of naked women that are in your area and want to fuck. Hell, just use CL or Backpage.
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My 2 cents after. Damn. 15 years of mongering already, and an expat for 10.[/QUOTE]Have not done Europe since my Navy days waaaaaay back in the day. Not impressed then except for Amsterdam, and I want to go to Germany for the obvious reasons.
Africans are best in they're own country, but they get clingy fast. African women also fall off a cliff after 30. I assume because off the diet. Heavy with meat and carbs only. They gain weight and start dressing like old women. Most women in developing nations don't know shyt about diet and exercise.
I actually think Asian women can be very hot. Asian diet can be very healthy except for the bombardment of rice and other carbs, so they look good for a long time. I used to work with many Lao women in San Diego and they put the Viet, Chinese and Pinay workers there to shame everyday.
Latinas are my favorite. Very sexy women. I started learning Spanish just to get to know them better in my travels South. Just too bad some of their countries are so dangerous.
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[QUOTE=Jon32;1623504]American women must be #1 as the worst kind of women to date, not only do they think they are the best, but they are usually fat asses on top of it.
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Africans can be very attractive, but for some reason the african immigrants in europe are almost on the same level as the natives. They think they are something special (which like all women, they are not). You can find a $20 african hooker on the street and she will think she is gd's gift to planet earth..[/QUOTE]Agreed that on average AW have more tonnage than women elsewhere. However some cities like New York and Chicago have very attractive AW. The problem is the shitty attitude. The attitude is almost mercenary. It's gets toned down if they perceive you have money or are a sports star. But you are at the mercy of the legal system once you sign on the dotted line. The older ones are worse and are very jaded. Good luck with the girls if you are not a Brad Pitt look alike.
Immigrants from anywhere in the world acquire the attitude of the AW and Western European women as soon as the plane touches ground. Unless you keep them in a dungeon and block all cable channels (especially Oprah), you will have the same issues as the AW or her European sister. Lesson here: don't get married to an AW and don't try to import. Robin William's Philippino 2nd ex wife is an object lesson. It's believed the he killed himself partly due to the pressures of child support and alimony payments. Beware fellows!
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1623365]For Black women the search is even harder because attractive Black women are extremely high maintenance and material (nails, weaves, shoes, BMW or Mercedes, designer this and that) so them finding a brother with $, advanced degrees that puts up with their shyt is needle in a haystack probability. I had an attractive mid-thirties Physician APPROACH ME on an online site. She called and immediately started attacking me:
She: What kind of degree do you have?
Me: Bachelors. (I lied, I have an AS).
She: THAT's LIKE A GED now days! How many kids do you have?
Me: One. (That's true)
She: I bet your lying and I bet five!
Me: And why the fuck did you call?
She: Click! Dial tone. I was so in shock, I didn't have a chance to comeback on that bytch. Yeah, I love American women.[/QUOTE]These biotches have more baggage than United Airlines. You're better off without them.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1623566]I actually think Asian women can be very hot. Latinas are my favorite. Very sexy women. I started learning Spanish just to get to know them better in my travels South. Just too bad some of their countries are so dangerous.[/QUOTE]NG, you sound a lot like me. I'm learning Spanish for the same reason. Maybe we can wing it sometime. I'll be in Manila, Cebu, Dumaguete and AC in November. Sosua, Santo Domingo and Santiago for the big, big boobs in January. Back to Manila then Bali then Jakarta then Cebu Oct-Nov 2015. Regards.