Nothing wrong with P4P at any age
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1625524]There is no reason or necessity for any man under 40 to pay for pussy. It is not cheaper. By no means. And its only lame guys under 40 who need to resort to P4P as their only means of getting laid. Most are socially awkward in one manner or another. Its not the women. Its them.[/QUOTE]Let's be a little open minded here! I think you've been back in america way too long my friend.
Absolutely nothing wrong with someone in their 20's getting P4P. Who knows what their situation is, what they like / dislike, and who cares? I remember being in the caribbean for 4 years when I was about 25 and literally walking up and down the beach picking up non-pros to bang. Did I still get P4P at 25? Hell yeah I did! My whole life I've had a non-pro on call to hang out and never had issues talking to or picking up women. And I still love getting P4P.
We're all pretty well traveled on this board, we all know other countries are way more open minded than america. I see zero issues with a 20 year old going to get a massage and some extras on the side. If I grew up outside america I would have been even worse! Even back when I was in the states I still liked to pick up a SW here and there when I was 20 - and I had pussy on tap from my university.
Now I'm an expat for over 10 years and haven't looked back. Nothing wrong with P4P, we're on the wrong message board to judge people who like getting it, at whatever age.
"The Future is Not What it Used to be"
the world has changed, as i said in another post women want the top of the line guys today. this is heightened in larger cities, and washington the. see. is the most notorious. in fact washington the. see. is considered amongst many on the internet to be the hardest place on earth to get women. a good looking guy in great shape can go up to a fat ugly girl and get shot the fuck down and made to feel less than that girl. this is simply genetics. women have evolved to be attracted to tall guys with big muscles. this is because before homo sapiens developed cites and societies these traits presented the best chance of survival for her and her offspring. also these traits symbolize a greater chance of strong healthy offspring. now once walled cities, taxes, government, slaves, salaries etc. had been created; being big and strong was not as important as wealth, because your healthy baby could still starve to death or live a life of poverty. this is where traditional hypergamy comes in, which is the practice among hindu women of marrying into a caste at least as high as their own. now this really applies to all women, as women here in american would marry a guy with more education, wealth, and status than themselves. this has stagnated because women have been striving to break down barriers and to compete with men. now women in their thirties who desire to marry after years of corporate ladder elevating, looking around and discover that they have more education, wealth, and status than every man. because of women's sexual liberation, women go to college and get fucked by half the football team and so on and so forth. these women have no interest in short, skinny, ugly men. just because a man was not born tall, dark and handsome does not make said man "lame". this view is so astonishing to me because it does not sound like that of a true man. men value intellect, honor, truth, perseverance, courage, strength, valor, selflessness for the good of the pack, and creativity. because a young man today lacks the physical traits to attract a young women twerking on a bar table he is lame? have we crumbled as a society that men judge themselves upon their ability to impress a women? a woman is a creature with no scene of honor, truth, courage, integrity, or loyalty. the ability to attract women can be an asset depending on your reference frame, but in no way does it make a man a man. to say that someone has a self-esteem issue because they cannot attract women, is the position of thought that an american woman would have. the issue is you if this is your stance. this is prevalent throughout our modern american society. three hundred pound women post photos of themselves saying they are attractive and beautiful. to who! an unattractive man, who admits that he is so, does not have a self-esteem problem he has honesty. but honesty is something the modern american man has no concept of, because men and women in america are indistinguishable. the unattractive man does not have rejection issues; he will be rejected by women. to say that women will chase after the unattractive man merely because he is under the age of forty is a blatant lie. and what living creature on this earth is not self-absorb? to throw yourself on the sword to appease our female masters and gods, i am dumbfounded at the notion of this. also it is a contradiction to say that "there is no reason or necessity for any man under 40 to pay for pussy. " but then just a few sentences later give not only the reason but the necessity for him to pay for pussy "most are socially awkward in one manner or another. " but not being socially awkward is not enough in america today; i have read in the comment section of pick up artists blogs that "don't bother learning game unless you are above average in physical attractiveness. " this is what i have been saying for years now. in my opinion unless you are in the top percentile among men in appearance do not bother. i am not saying that an ugly man cannot have sex, i am saying you probably would not want to been seen in public with that women your fucking. i have read about the golden age of pickup (early 2000's) when any ugly duckling with game could walk into a club and leave with a hot chick. this was when the internet was still young, no facebook, twitter, instagram, vine. myspace was not even launched to 2003. women did not have an iphone or galaxy s glued to their eyelids or google glass in front of them either. those days are long gone. in hindsight that time period was the last before society's technologically enhanced rapid descent in to utter depravity and abject destitution.
is mongering cheaper than having sex for "free"? the answer is relative to the person in question; however there are things to consider. for instance this free sex could result in pregnancy which could absolutely decimate a young man's life. the demoralizing hassle of trying to entertain women and convince them to willingly have sex with you. women that stalk you, and key your car because you had sex with multiple women. the false [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] claims, and the fact the men are guilty until proven innocent on college campuses under our current president. i read an article about cost per orgasm (cpo), the authors model consisted of adding up all the money you spend on a woman and divide it by the number of times you have sex with the women. he gave an example of spending $300 to have sex twice. your cpo would then be $150. but what the author did not talk about, but what i could not get out of my head was 0. the number 0. what if you spend money, any amount of money on a women and she then says "let's just be friend". well in mathematics division by 0 is forbidden, if you divide by zero you get infinity or it is undefined. if mathematics and physics describes the nature of the universe then the universe has made it quite clear that you should not spend money and not get sex. the universe has stated quite clearly that the possibility of sex which is nothing more than dubious expectation is not enough.
for myself there is no doubt that mongering is the best option, it is the safest, cheapest, the most relaxing and rewarding. however i wonder if american women will catch on a try to ban us passport holders from travelling to dr, cr, col, bra, thai, phi. taxes on single childless people have already been proposed, and taxes on expatriation have been raised. as america slips further towards being indistinguishable from the rest of the world, i wonder how much of a choice we will be given in the future. tellall the other day talked about how chasing after the american dream cuased him to be miserable. it is not our dream it is theirs, it is only a nightmare for those of us who believe the illusion. my generation the millennials are fucked. the educational system is a scam, buying a house is a death wish (the word mortgage translates to death pledge in french), buying a car is suicide. marriage presents no benefits and is a legal contract for modern day slavery. what if you want children? well luckily i do not want children ever! children are looked upon as leaving a legacy, however if you make $35,000 a year and can barely support yourself as an unknown on a floating space rock amongst 7. 3 billion people. you are much better off trying to do your best to enjoy life than leaving a legacy. once you are dead i doubt you will give a flying fuck about your legacy anyway. but if you did have children what would they be like? probably a loud opinionated daughter that kisses her loving father with dick breathe while have cum drip out of her asshole. she is constantly asking daddy to come to the rescue when she fucks up, that is when she is not spending your money faster than her mother. and your gay son will probably be similar. and if your son is heterosexual (not likely anymore), he will be indoctrinated to resent you from birth by his mother that hates you ironically because you love her and the kids so much. your son will inherit a world of censorship and political correctness. he will be an enslaved cog of the system in "the land of the free". he will be effeminate due to his mother and the emasculated nature of today's society. there is a war against men in this country; they want to bend us to their whim. look at all the men who have fallen in sports lately, ray rice, adrien perterson, thiago silva, anthony johnson etc. these men have been banned or suspended from their sports. ray rice and adrien peterson lost their nike contracts. but nothing happened to hope solo. she is still representing the united states national women's soccer team. she did not lose her nike contract. it is quite clear what is going on in this society. this is reality and this is the future.
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