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[QUOTE=TellAll;1761647]What you don't get is why do you have to pay anything if they like you. [/QUOTE]For a woman, liking a guy and wanting to fuck him are two different things. Most women do not want to fuck a guy upon the 1st meeting unless he's a Brad Pitt model type or undeniably Rich. Women know they can get dick anywhere, anytime. There are guys that will fuck anything so for a woman they have the advantage of limiting who they fuck to only those they really have some type of feelings. Therefore they want at least time to make that assessment. 20 yr old don't expect dinner because they know guys their age don't have funds. But a woman wants to see what type of man they are dealing with. Why should a woman fuck a poor, broke ass man when she can just as easily find one w / a job. Especially if he isn't a 10. Now if you're a 10 then I can see you complaining. But if you're just avg why should she just fuck you at sight, when she can get avg dick all day long. Women have that advantage. What makes you special. That's reality. Deal with it.
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After reading this thread I actually tried POF. It's a gold mine. Immediately got responses. Met one for an afternoon date at Chilli's. Set me back a whole $11.95 . A few more phone calls and she comes over. Drank some wine a little cheese and crackers. Bam. She was on the dickhead like a mouse on cheese. Sunday she's coming over for DVD, popcorn w / some dick for dessert. How was your week.
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Well, good luck with THAT, ThatGuy. You and the POF (putrid old fuck) blimpie are probably made for each other. Make sure you watch some chick flick and be prepared to have her cut your balls off.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1764075]After reading this thread I actually tried POF. It's a gold mine. Immediately got responses. Met one for an afternoon date at Chilli's. Set me back a whole $11.95 . A few more phone calls and she comes over. Drank some wine a little cheese and crackers. Bam. She was on the dickhead like a mouse on cheese. Sunday she's coming over for DVD, popcorn w / some dick for dessert. How was your week.[/QUOTE].
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1764283]It's settled. ThatGuy is a chick. Only chicks talk like that.
The jig is up, ThatGurl865. Stop trolling us and go back to Pop Sugar or some shit.[/QUOTE]That's certainly my suspicion too. Thus, I started in with the "ThatGirl" moniker. There have been many things posted here by this person that lead me to strongly suspect it's a woman with nothing better to do with her time than trolling mongers.
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The belief that men and women are equal is incompatible with the idea that a man must pay for a woman's meals and entertainment on a date. If the woman expects compensation in the form of free meals, drinks and entertainment in return for showing up to evaluate if the man is worth fucking, that means she considers the man to have less intrinsic value based solely on his gender. They're not coming to the tables as equals and the man is a supplicant pleading his case as to why he should get some pussy. He is paying for his own job interview with the woman so she can decide if she will make him pay much more. She has her list of qualifications he must meet like wealth, education, nice car, house, etc. The truth is that a woman like that isn't interested in men. She is interested in what resources they can offer her in return for pussy access. In that case, the man would be better off cutting out the overhead of a date and going straight to negotiating the price of her pussy.
In Sweden, gender equality is not just preached. It's practiced. An American woman dating in Sweden would hate it because Swedish men would not be picking up the bill for her meals, drinks and entertainment. They're also not big on asking for a woman's number or calling her up after a night of hot stank fucking to soothe her insecurities on where things are going, or not going.
American women pay lip service to the idea of gender equality. In reality, they want to be above men in relationships. This is the real reason they say that men and women are equal but still expect the man to pick up their bill and follow the rules of ancient chivalry. The truth is most of these women cannot past the same financial scrutiny they apply to men. Their finances are a mess and they're debt ridden from spending more than they earn. It's no secret that women account for most of the spending on consumer goods in America.
Some guys will still choose to participate in this ridiculous dating system. After all, people do things that they know are bad for them like smoking, drinking alcohol or snorting cocaine. As for Plenty-of-Fish, I know a coworker making over six figures who is a member. He would recount his dates to me back at the office. They all involved low quality women using him for free meals, drinks and entertainment. He never got any pussy. In fact, the only thing that got banged one night was the rental car. One of his POF dates had a jealous ex-husband who kicked in the back panel.
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1764391]Some guys will still choose to participate in this ridiculous dating system. After all, people do things that they know are bad for them like smoking, drinking alcohol or snorting cocaine. As for Plenty-of-Fish, I know a coworker making over six figures who is a member. He would recount his dates to me back at the office. They all involved low quality women using him for free meals, drinks and entertainment. He never got any pussy. In fact, the only thing that got banged one night was the rental car. One of his POF dates had a jealous ex-husband who kicked in the back panel.[/QUOTE]They don't have a clue as to what's really on the other side of the oceans and borders. Especially Midwest men. They stick to the script. I cringe when I hear them talk about obeying the wife, and giving all the check to her. They buy into the Christian right dogma of love the flag, mom and apple pie. This shit is constantly on TV. The fake fluff being broadcast in every home has shaped this mindset. TV shows of pussy whipped family men (Mike and Molly, Loves Raymond), commercials selling products to women by showing a man as incapable of doing anything).
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Ya, it's true. I am from there and don't dare say anything to my married relatives about my exploits and lifestyle. It would surely cause divorce and alienation from me. [QUOTE=Naked Gunz They don't have a clue as to what's really on the other side of the oceans and borders. Especially Midwest men.
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That is SavePros at 3:03...
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2mrI1QWWgzk[/URL]
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1761575]He's also misguided enough to believe that he isn't paying for it one way or another.
I say that because if he's getting so much free ass, wtf is he doing here.[/QUOTE]When it comes to AM discussions you seem to get caught up a little in your own head. Your posts in the Patts thread, to me, seem much clearer.
I monger for maybe one of the oldest reasons and one that, as a full time monger, you know well. I pay them to leave.
I have no problem getting AM. I've been a sex addict all my life (and that's not changing anytime soon) and that's the mission if you're an addict. To get sex. Period.
Now, do I pay? Por supuesto! Everybody pays! A 9 dollar lunch is paying. Most people don't think of it that way and most men slough off the minor stuff but to the guy who doesn't have $9, its paying. Same as handing her pesos in Panama.
Sitting across from her holding a fake smile and remembering to laugh occasionally when your bored out of your fuking mind is paying. Having to swap texts, phone calls, listening to sick cat stories. All paying. Just with patience or time, etc.
We all pay somehow. Movie stars pay. Sure they get a lot of free sex but eventually the halo wears off and she wants more. Time to pay (with emotions, time, etc) or leave and its not always to extract yourself and somehow, someway you always pay.
Consider the old expression "show me a beautiful woman and somewhere there's a guy who's tired of fucking her". He's paying 'cause now he's stuck.
If you want to get laid you do what you have to. Period. You buy meals, call when you're supposed to and do all the other stupid shit required to get sex. It hasn't changed in 100 years. Men have always paid. Get over it.
Now, if this discussion is about what should be or what you want it to be or in this or that country or times past then that's a different discussion.
I still bang AM but I have money and now that I'm slightly older I have much less patience and value my time more and more so I pay in dollars more often than ever.
If you want sex, you're paying.
The difference is, just like the river doesn't complain about the rocks in its way, I don't whine about it. I get it done because after all we need the sex, no?
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1765823]When it comes to AM discussions you seem to get caught up a little in your own head. Your posts in the Patts thread, to me, seem much clearer.
I monger for maybe one of the oldest reasons and one that, as a full time monger, you know well. I pay them to leave.
I have no problem getting AM. I've been a sex addict all my life (and that's not changing anytime soon) and that's the mission if you're an addict. To get sex. Period.
Now, do I pay? Por supuesto! Everybody pays! A 9 dollar lunch is paying. Most people don't think of it that way and most men slough off the minor stuff but to the guy who doesn't have $9, its paying. Same as handing her pesos in Panama.
Sitting across from her holding a fake smile and remembering to laugh occasionally when your bored out of your fuking mind is paying. Having to swap texts, phone calls, listening to sick cat stories. All paying. Just with patience or time, etc.
We all pay somehow. Movie stars pay. Sure they get a lot of free sex but eventually the halo wears off and she wants more. Time to pay (with emotions, time, etc) or leave and its not always to extract yourself and somehow, someway you always pay.
Consider the old expression "show me a beautiful woman and somewhere there's a guy who's tired of fucking her". He's paying 'cause now he's stuck.
If you want to get laid you do what you have to. Period. You buy meals, call when you're supposed to and do all the other stupid shit required to get sex. It hasn't changed in 100 years. Men have always paid. Get over it.
Now, if this discussion is about what should be or what you want it to be or in this or that country or times past then that's a different discussion.
I still bang AM but I have money and now that I'm slightly older I have much less patience and value my time more and more so I pay in dollars more often than ever.
If you want sex, you're paying.
The difference is, just like the river doesn't complain about the rocks in its way, I don't whine about it. I get it done because after all we need the sex, no?[/QUOTE]Both my heads are fine as is what's in them, thank You.
I am not a sex addict like you so I am not driven by impulse. I just like young women other than AW's. I have money also and like you my time is more important to me. I could play the dating game but choose not to.
Since I am forced to pay for what I should be getting for free, I choose to do it on my own terms.
You enyoy your addiction, feed it and pay for it the way you see fit. I choose not to spend my time sitting across from some cow pretending she's interesting to get layed.
I'd rather spend the money for a hottie and be done with it.
You also made my point, there is no such thing as free.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1765832]Both my heads are fine as is what's in them, thank You.[/QUOTE]Impulse? I am anything but impulsive. And who are these cows you speak of? I've never fucked a cow. My AM are mostly the same as the Latins. Check my pics. And wouldn't you even concede that some might consider flying to third world or "developing countries", for no other reason but sex with young girls, an addiction?
And do you think you were the one who figured out it ain't free?
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1765823]Having to swap texts, phone calls, listening to sick cat stories. All paying. [/QUOTE]So I ask you then. When you talk with your guy friends. Are you paying to sit and talk w / guys. By your logic you guys are paying to read my text. Thanks by the way. Everything requires "time" so the word "Free" should not exist by your logic since it can never be achieved. It takes time to breath air. This is what I mean by a P4P person needing / using obscure abstract logic to justify their need to pay for sex. So a groupie give a rock star a quickie in the bathroom. He jumps on the tour bus, drives off never to see her again. Some how he paid uh? P4 P guys who spill this jiberish need to stroke their low self esteem to so they can think everyone has to pay.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1765741]That is SavePros at 3:03...
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2mrI1QWWgzk[/URL][/QUOTE]Except she wouldn't be in my car to begin with, hahaha. Not on a first date. Unless we already agreed that we are going back to my place and I am smashing that. At that point I'm good for getting her some grub on my dime. Wouldn't want her hunger getting in the way of her performance! 😝.
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1765843]Impulse? I am anything but impulsive. And who are these cows you speak of? I've never fucked a cow. My AM are mostly the same as the Latins. Check my pics. And wouldn't you even concede that some might consider flying to third world or "developing countries", for no other reason but sex with young girls, an addiction?
And do you think you were the one who figured out it ain't free?[/QUOTE]Sorry but I have known a lot of addicts and all of them would act impusively to feed their need. Be it Crack, Meth or Sex. But if you say you're different, that is between you and you Shrink.
I don't fly there just for the young women, I live there part time and have many other interest. Interest I have more time for since I don't have to play the dating game anymore.
Never said I was the one who figured it out that it wasn't free. Guys long before me figured that out. Thus our hobby.
Glad you are getting some hot women. I feel all men deserve that.
On a final note, I have a favor to ask?
Since the jig is up and we have figured out that ThatGurl865 is a woman, I would ask that you make contact with her and lay some pipe on her. That is one woman that is in dire need of a good fucking. Maybe afterwards she can stop lurking our board and do something constructive like sell Mary Kay.
Look at it as taking one for the team. You being a Sex Addict, any hole is a hole right? LOL.
Talk at you later.
Tell.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1766108]
On a final note, I have a favor to ask?
Since the jig is up and we have figured out that ThatGurl865 is a woman, I would ask that you make contact with her and lay some pipe on her. That is one woman that is in dire need of a good fucking. Maybe afterwards she can stop lurking our board and do something constructive like sell Mary Kay.
Look at it as taking one for the team. You being a Sex Addict, any hole is a hole right? LOL.
Tell.[/QUOTE]And sadly, that's exactly the unintelligent level of discourse we've come to expect from you and which contributes to undermine this thread.