[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1625952]SeizeTheDay uses the most ridiculous examples for reasoning and SaveaPro calls that "Professor" material.
He sites the few worst case scenarios. Looks for failures. To justify his reasoning. As if the other Millions of men in relationships without these problems don't account for nothing.
All of sudden after the year 2000. The Internet / FB and social media has become the problem. DUH. Some how because of that. Women don't date regular looking 20 yr old guys any longer. Only Adonis or his wealthy friends can get laid.
If a guy has a date and strikes out. He should quit dating and just pay for sex. Period. Because. Damn it. We went on a date, I should get pussy. Well boo hoo. To think just because one goes on a date, a woman should fuck and if not. Fuck it. I give up on dating and only pay for pussy now because. After all. I'll get pussy is a cop out. Giving up.
Also this COP (cost of pussy) is way off. As guys with girlfriends (from Dating , fuck 100's of times for nothing, watch TV and fuck, she cooks and they fuck, . After you are dating, you fuck just because you care for each other. Without paying anything.
But I can understand why you wouldn't understand that concept. Because. You only get pussy by paying. That is what is called giving up and not trying to Develop Social Skills.
Do you think it has been different in any era. No man always scores no matter how good he looks or how much money he has. Its a matter of having confidence in one's self to know this and press forward.
His statement. "A woman is a creature with no scene of honor, truth, courage, integrity, or loyalty" . Says it all.
This is a guy who has obviously been shot down and instead of being a man and learning the fact that no man bats 100 . He instead looks to every excuse to instead of "Man up" . He has "Given up" .
I know of many. Short, overweight, fast food workers, Walmart workers who have healthy normal sex lives with attractive women. Yes attractive women. Attractive women, come at every economic level of society. Not every beautiful woman is born wealthy or has access to wealthy men. And most often with women in their 20's. They are attracted to guys for the most mundane of reasons. He's funny, he's so sweet, he has nice eyes. Look at his butt its cute.
Sure you can P4P for the rest of your life and have sex. But what about a healthy relationship with someone who cares about you. Doing the things, couples do. Oh yeah. You'll hire an escort to do those things too. Pay a girl to do social activities for the rest of your life.
99.9% of the worlds men. Not just American men. But the world over. Use dating to have relationships with women.
In no country in the world do the majority of men advocate. Prostitutes as a man's sole and only means of relationship with women. Nowhere.
Courtship and Marriage is the basis of relationships the world over. That alone tells you who is socially adjusted and who is not.
It not an American thing. Its a man thing. Don't worry about the ones that get away and enjoy the successes as 99.9% of men do.
There is nothing wrong with P4P, it has its place and I enjoy it as much as the next man. But to say it should be anyone's sole and only way to have relationship with women. Is in mine and 99.9% of the worlds view. A person with social deficits and ineptitude's.
But to each their own. As it harms no one else, enjoy.
Thatguy. Peace.[/QUOTE]Dude, you've been on this thread with the same nonsense, since, as a very young man, I returned from Japan, bewildered at the stank of the male-female dynamic in this country to the point it affected my decisions and career choices. How can you defend this paradigm? Look at the length of this thread.