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I remember way back when I was 22 or 23 years old. some girl I'd been boffing tried to run the same game on me. I'ts an old scam, one of the oldest. But it often works because the guy gets so scared initially that he doesn't see the scam until it's too late.
Rock
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Hookers are Killers
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/6693813.stm[/url]
Here is what happened to a rich British dude who forgot hookers are to fuck and forget. Unless you want to end up like this unfortunate dude, just use, abuse and lose them. They are not like us.
This applies to American women and all women who have moral shortcomings. Always remember why these women exist anbd never trust one longer than a fuck. That way you stay happy and alive.
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[QUOTE=Happy Bigamist][url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/6693813.stm[/url]
Here is what happened to a rich British dude who forgot hookers are to fuck and forget. Unless you want to end up like this unfortunate dude, just use, abuse and lose them. They are not like us.
This applies to American women and all women who have moral shortcomings. Always remember why these women exist anbd never trust one longer than a fuck. That way you stay happy and alive.[/QUOTE]
HB are you telling us only hooker's commit these atrocious acts. I read recently about a psychologist who was married to a damn good divorce attorney and was in the middle of a messy divorce........The psychologist realized he was just about to lose everything, so he invited her down to the Caribbean Islands for a last pre-divorce vacation. To cut a long story short he poisoned her and cremated her body. He returned and gave her cremated ashes to her parents. No one could prove a thing and the divorce case was closed.
So, does this mean psychologists are killers? No, it only means there are a lot of fucked up people in this world.
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The link provided by Happy Bigamist (who is right, by the way...I am nothing like him and for that, I'm grateful) led me to two other articles.
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6698173.stm[/url]
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6698753.stm[/url]
I know they don't have anything to do with American Women, but they do support the discussion we were having a short while ago. The world is taking a giant step backwards when it comes to sexual freedoms - particularly anything that threatens 'traditional' heterosexual relationships, such as homosexuality and prostitution. I don't believe feminism has much to do with this rapid erosion of our rights as sexual beings. It's all about religion.
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I really think that what you said is true, but it is also going the other way in many localities, the world is polarizing and getting ready for a BIG culture war.
Remember Brazil and Colombia recently legalized prostitution, and Ecuador may soon follow suit.
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Bango: Without going into the whole legalisation vs decriminalisation debate (probably better suited to the Morality section), legalisation is as much of a backward step for sex worker rights and sexual freedoms as prohibition is. Legalisation is all about tighter controls and regulations and, more importantly, removing the power from the sex workers and putting it into the hands of the state.
More often than not, legalisation has abolitionist aims and objectives.
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Hookers Kill
And try to justify it by digging up some bs Polish story about a cartoon and drawing attnetion to a gang of Western poofters egging on Moscow's finest and complaining when they get the response they wanted. Bashing a provocative political activist on the nose does not correspond to getting chopped up by a hooker and her brother.
Hookers are creatures of the night, things of physical pleasure. They have their place, like the rake and the hoe and the other staples of the garden shed. Find them, fuck them, pay them to leave and then forget them after you delouse yourself. That is the secret to a happy fuck.
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[QUOTE]....a psychologist who was married to a damn good divorce attorney and was in the middle of a messy divorce........The psychologist realized he was just about to lose everything, so he invited her down to the Caribbean Islands for a last pre-divorce vacation. To cut a long story short he poisoned her and cremated her body. He returned and gave her cremated ashes to her parents. No one could prove a thing and the divorce case was closed....[/QUOTE]
This "news item" has all the trappings & smell of an urban legend.
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Well not in THOSE two cases.
What happened in both countries was, they got new Constitutions, in 1988 and 1991 respectively, and THEN the Supreme courts noted that prohibiting prostitution would be unconstitutional under the new arrangements. So it's very much an individiual rights issue in both countries.
Of course some of the right-wing hardliners are trying to reverse this but they've found themselves shut out. And I can say from personal experience that it is NOT going away.
Of course, prostitution was perfectly legal in the USA until 1915, so continued vigilance is required.
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[QUOTE=Happy Bigamist]Hookers are creatures of the night, things of physical pleasure. They have their place, like the rake and the hoe and the other staples of the garden shed. Find them, fuck them, pay them to leave and then forget them after you delouse yourself. That is the secret to a happy fuck.[/QUOTE]
If every hooker you've met so far has tried to kill you, it's not because they're hookers. It's because you're a complete asshole.
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Killer Hookers
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/6693813.stm[/url]
I posted this story. One guy responds with what is probably an urban legent, a few more make interesting comments and one specimen makes a series of posts to denigrate me and the victim of this deranged and greedy prostitute. Let's take a few quotes from the story to put them in the context of this thread and this site.
It was a case full of tales of sex and money.
For this case was very much about money. Jamila M'Barek and the late Earl of Shaftesbury met in 2002 as prostitute and client.
They began seeing each other as a couple and were married within nine months.
Two years later to the day she lured him to his death, afraid that their impending divorce would cut her out of his multi-million-pound will.
In early November 2004 the earl arrived on the Cote D'Azur from England.
The following day he went to see his wife at a flat he had given her in Cannes. He was never seen alive again
The case has fascinated many. It has had sex, money, murder - and revealed the clash between two very different worlds.
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Prostitutes and their families are not like the rest of us. Sup with a long spoon. Find them, fuck them, forget them. Don't get involved with them at all. They are damaged, dangerous goods.
The same goes for heroin addicts, depressives, fatties and any other defectives. It takes a special kind of woman to drop her panties to all comers. No one - pimps, fellow hustlers - has respect for them or trusts them. Why should you?
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[QUOTE=Yogin]This "news item" has all the trappings & smell of an urban legend.[/QUOTE]
This really happened because the lawyer who was killed by her husband was representing the wife of a casual friend of mine in their own divorce case. He described this woman as very ruthless in the court room. Unfortunately her psychologist husband figured he had a lot more to lose in a divorce case and decided he would do her in first.
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Update on situation
[QUOTE=Rock Dog]I remember way back when I was 22 or 23 years old. some girl I'd been boffing tried to run the same game on me. I'ts an old scam, one of the oldest. But it often works because the guy gets so scared initially that he doesn't see the scam until it's too late.
Rock[/QUOTE]Apparently it was not a scam. The girl called me yesterday and has an appointment at the abortion clinic for Saturday. So I went to the clinic and paid $440 to the clinic for it.
I had been bonking her off and on for a couple of months, and we had been using a spermacide. She said she must not have put it in for the full 10 minutes before we went at it... ???
Just wondering if I should have offered to pay half? Or would that be tacky to try to negotiate the bill?
Selfishly, I am glad I don't have to pay for child support for 18 years, like some dads. It was her decision to get the abortion, and the man has no choice in the matter anyway, so the moral decision was up to her. I am over twice her age, so I am prolly too old to be a good daddy again.
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Npaul consider yourself lucky you got off so easy. Like you said, you could have been paying through the nose for YEARS.
Why is this article posted in here anyways? It belongs in the "Morality" section. I would ask that people please respond to it there after this post if they want to continue the discussion.
It DOES take a different kind of girl to "drop her pants for all comers", but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Your little theory is kinda short on logic. Plenty of prostitutes have never killed anyone, and plenty of killers have never had sex for money. You'd have to prove POSITIVELY that the fact that she was a prostitute was more than a mere coincidence in order for your argument to have any weight.
It certainly goes against 100% of my personal experience with WG's. My personal dealings with them has actually INCREASED my respect for them.
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Rubber Nursey,
The link you gave to the article about Poland and Teletubbies is unfortunately a proof for what I wrote before that “everyone talks about family’s values but nobody care about an average family’s problems” in my country. Through a few days Poland has entertainment on TV. Most people laugh at Mrs Sowinska and they wonder what another idiotic problems our politicians will create in the future. Maybe it is some kind of method, to focus people’s attention on moronic actions of our spokesperson for children's rights then rather on the real problems, political and social ones. One should also remember that Mrs Sowinska belongs to “League of Polish Families”, the political, conservative party which promoted her for the position of the spokesperson. She’s well know in Poland of her other controversial actions, for example a letter to the Pope Benedict XVI. She was writing about the lay and masonic Polish media which declared the war on “Church, its shepards and God’s people”. I guess I haven’t to write anything more about her.
Personally I’ve never thought that Tinky Winky who has a woman's handbag can be a gay :-), neither anyone of my friends. And I think that Polish children who are 3 or 4 don’t even know what it is gay but thanks to Mrs Sowinska they will know it for sure :-)
[QUOTE=Rubber Nursey]The world is taking a giant step backwards when it comes to sexual freedoms - particularly anything that threatens 'traditional' heterosexual relationships, such as homosexuality and prostitution.[/QUOTE]Ironically Poland isn’t a good proof for your thesis. Prostitution and homosexuality were, are and will be present in my country. The article about Teletubbies is rather a proof for hypocrisy. I’ll give you another example. A son of my acquaintances has a girlfriend. She has a child from her previous relationship. They don’t want to accept the girl because a childless woman is always better as a daughter-in-law. I don’t know her but for some reasons this guy loves her so probably she’s nice. Anyway it isn’t about her, it’s about these people’s attitude that a girl with child is worse because one can’t hide it. For them it would be better if she was a hooker because you can hide this fact and it’s hard to hide the child. Do you understand what I mean? Mrs Swinska won’t say to the cameras that she doesn’t accept gays. Instead of it she claims that she wants to protect innocent children from Masonry, homosexuality, atheists and all kind of heretics.
I think it’s not about religion, and for sure not about feminism. It just depends on someone’s character. There are people who think that they have monopoly for the truth.
[QUOTE=Npaul1]Just wondering if I should have offered to pay half? Or would that be tacky to try to negotiate the bill?[/QUOTE]Well, Npaul1 , if you talk about the responsibility I can give you only one advice. Forget about the money and just be happy that you won’t pay for the child support. Imagine what would be if she gave birth to twins ;-) Next time think about responsibility a little earlier or at least ask about her last name and address. A propos the moral decisions: if you had a choice, would you make another decision about baby? Hmm, anyway I think you have more luck then you could expect
[QUOTE=Happy Bigamist]Prostitutes and their families are not like the rest of us[/QUOTE]What does it mean? That they don’t pay for sex? They have no feelings? That they like money more then average John or Jane? :-) Please, tell me, I’d like to really know why they are different from the “rest of us”.
[QUOTE=Happy Bigamist]No one - pimps, fellow hustlers - has respect for them or trusts them. Why should you? [/QUOTE]Because you are a human being who respects people and who expects the same from the others?
And if you write about trust, don’t people kill each other for money, power or sometimes just for fun? Should I be afraid to go to my university after I watched the news from VA? You can’t predict the life.
Besides you can’t really know what happened between M'Barek and her husband. “Nicholas Ashley-Cooper said his father was a "gentle soul" who descended into "alcohol and depression".” So he wasn’t the ideal husband, what of course doesn’t justify the murder. And journalists usually look for bloody, tragic news because people like to read about them. Would someone notice the case if he wasn’t a rich earl?
But as always I’m an optimist. For sure Mrs M’Barek will write a book about her life full of money, sex and earls. And she will make more money on it then she could get from her lovers. It should be enough for retirement on the Cote D'Azur.