A goose or turkey come Thanksgiving
[quote=dickhead]i have a friend visiting me here from the us. good friend, went to college together, known each other for 17 years, traveled together several times before. he had been telling me how his aw (second) wife had "drained him psychologically" and "broken him like a horse. " i've been trying to get him down here for years (i've met his wife and she is a horrible person, ugly to boot, and according to him does not like sex).
he married this woman, took in her daughter from a previous marriage, paid to move her horses (and dogs and cats) from several time zones away, and etc. he is well-educated, white-collar professional, not fat, considerate, good cook, etc. she is a high school dropout, chronically unemployed, and just flat nasty.
finally he gets laid off and comes down here and i start showing him around. "you like this woman? " i ask. "oh yeah" he says. "i can arrange it. " "what do i have to do? " "fuck her, give her fifty dollars, and send her out the door. " "but what about this and that and this and that and the other thing? " "forget all that. "
i took him to five places the first day and four the second. he finally picked someone, and he couldn't fuck her. why? "she was too aggressive. " "wtf does that mean? " "the minute we got in the room she pulled my dick out and started sucking it. " "and that is a problem because? "
long pause.
"i need some connection. " ok. so i send a personal friend to his house. she is fully equipped, tall, natural tits, no tats or piercings, just what he asked for. speaks just a little english, too, enough for a conversation. i further equipped her with pizza and beer. i sent her right to the door of the comfortable furnished apartment i had arranged for him, which i had stocked with coffee, snacks, beverages, condoms, marijuana, viagra, ambien, xanax, several custom music cds, and so forth.
he calls me up, "what should i do? " "whatever you want. she will do whatever you want. " "what do you mean, 'whatever i want'"? "dude, i don't know what you want and i don't want or need to know the details but unless you want to shit on her or hurt her, she is game. "
he couldn't fuck her. "why? " "i am just not used to women giving me what i want. " yeah, because you are used to [b]american[/b] women!
finally i lured him to my apartment where i had another friend waiting who was not the type he requested. she was short and dark and a bit older (32 and he is 50). i told her, "will you please [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] this fucker because i can't listen to his bullshit any more. " she agreed to this. he came over, i introduced them, and i said i had to go to the store and would be back "shortly" whereas i had already told my lady friend i would not come back for at least two hours.
so now he is looking for a good divorce lawyer. probably i cost him a lot of money in the short- to mid-term but on the other hand i saved his motherfucking life. but what are friends for? [/quote]damn, dude, you have saved another human being. may you be blessed in your adventure called life. only the best energy!
Sounds Fun, but Dangerous
[QUOTE=Legal Tender]Hey, you adopted my plan. I'm wondering, am I crazy? I'm in my early 60s, and am marrying a 21 year old Colombian university student because I am addicted to her company, and intoxicated by her ability to give me physical pleasure. A good prenup, and with a proper visa application, she will have a ticket to Amerka. I will have a "slice" her life. The season of her youth.the sweetest necter, isn't it?
What is the risk. That she will leave? She can't and will not want to take the memories. Am I crazy?[/QUOTE]
It sounds wonderful your relationship. I'd love to do it too. But my honest opinion is that she will leave you after a year or two. The better looking she is the higher the chance. She will find out that she is the only 20 year old married to 60s year old. Society here is too corrupting. I think if you are prepared for her to leave, then go ahead and do it.
I DO think it will work in her country where things like this are more acceptable. Currently I have a Filipino GF who is very good looking and there is a big age gap. I do not plan to bring her back to USA or any other western country because there are tons of horny young good looking guys that will constantly hit on her. Her opportunities for men and marriage here are unlimited.
The problem is the American Legal System?
[quote=chocha monger]legal tender, your plan to thumb your nose at the system sounds like fun in its delirious recklessness. on the other hand, if you're wealthy or financially secure, you may be risking everything on the roll of the dice. i understand that you are willing to accept the fact that she will leave at some point. you may be looking forward to two years of her youthful nectar, a very small slice of her life in return for some predetermined amount spelled out in your prenup.
it sounds fine in theory. yet, something comes to mind about "the best-laid plans of mice and men/often go awry." you have an idea of what you're willing to pay for some memories of debauchery with this young colombian student but this is based on the assumption that you can control the risks to some extent.
you need to consider the fact that there is no such thing as an iron clad prenup. the possibility of your prenup being broken in court exists. what happens if you end up in court before an activist judge who wants to make an example of guys who marry women a third of their age? he/she may punish you by breaking your prenup and giving your young ex-wife a huge award. this is the post-imbra age and anything is possible with foreign brides. the prenup also does not remove your obligation to repay the government for any public assistance that she uses with her first 10 years in the country. she might not wait one to two years to bolt. she can leave a couple weeks after the marriage and the submission of her paperwork. her visa will not be affected if she claims domestic violence or forced sex. one lucky fellow in the filipina opinions and advice thread discovered that his soon to be bride was telling her family back in the philippines that he was [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] her three times a day just in time to call off the marriage.
if you are intact and she becomes pregnant you will have to support her and the child based on your income not the prenup. her colombian university credentials wouldn't mean anything in the us and her challenges with english would put her in a very strong position in court. she may stick around making your life hell by being abusive, unfaithful and financially irresponsible. in the end you may be the one who leaves. so you are taking a considerable risk. i don't know why you would want to do that but if you've considered the likely outcome it's up to you. just don't place too much faith in the american legal system being on your side.[/quote]
thanks for your thoughts and your time. i'm not thumbing my nose at the system, i am following it. first a pre-nup. within a month of marriage, a declaratory judgment will be filed in court resulting in a judgment that the pre-nup is valid. after 30 days, the judgment is final and can't be revisited. there must be finality of judgments. if that doesn't happen, then divorce with little subject to division. i'm shooting blanks, so my gene pool won't have any addition. her becoming abusive? i obviously don't think so. she is not crazy. and, if she does, she gets what she had contracted for and a judge has declared valid. i won't give her the opportunity to be a spendthrift. and, if she is unfaithful, what is her opportunity costs? she can start fucking some other dude, and take what she gets under the contract. we all have free will, don't we. now, am i still crazy?
Accepted by Whom (or is who)?
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]I agree with the rest of the board, but I just want to add one thing. You have NO IDEA how big a SACRIFICE it is for somebody who has roots here in Colombia to leave this place for a miserable shithole like the USA.
You may find that offensive, but I GUARANTEE you that's how the average Colombian expat sees it. There is a lot to miss about this place. A lot that the average gringo couldn't even begin to perceive even by coming down here for an extended time.
For that matter, young women with old guys is just not "accepted" here in Colombia. I'm 35 and I'd hesitate to date anybody under 25 here.
There's actually a girl I adore here who just turned 20 but I don't know if anything is going to develop, and the age difference is the main reason. She's a very family oriented girl and I can't see her family not having a problem. Frankly I would have a problem if I were her parent or sibling too, so I can't blame her one bit for being nervous and cautious.
Not to mention most girls that age are gonna want to have kids!
Believe me, I LOVE the idea of some hot sexy intelligent young student type slowly seducing me and dragging me over the coals of desire repeatedly. But the reality is, I'll indulge the fantasy but stop long before I do anything terminally stupid.[/QUOTE]
Ok, dude, thank your very much for your time and viewpoint. Of course, it is not accepted because of the age and cultural differences. I don't know why any of these Colombians would want to come to a shithole like the US., but people are still clambering to get into the US. Too bad the nice Mexicans who make up the majority of our immigrants aren't the physical beauties found in a number of countries in Sur Americano . You observed: "Believe me, I LOVE the idea of some hot sexy intelligent young student type slowly seducing me and dragging me over the coals of desire repeatedly. But the reality is, I'll indulge the fantasy.. . . Hell, she will leave. I know that. Will it happen before I die? But she will go with my blessing and good energy. Live the dream.