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I Hope This Just A Joke?
proposed law would criminalize international romance
a fascinating email from reader dave root who attaches an original article. dave writes....
greetings wendy:
back in 2005 average american folks like myself were delighted when you wrote an article castigating the federal imbra law. (see "mail order bride law brands u.s. men abusers." - [url]http://www.ifeminists.net/introduct.../2006/0111.html[/url]) now that the federal law has been passed it sets a dangerous precedent for even more draconian legislation. take a look at this proposed maryland law and you will understand.
proposed law would criminalize international romance
by dave root
maryland men who wish to communicate with foreign women may need to visit their local police station if a highly controversial proposed maryland bill (hb 596) becomes law. hb 596 recently introduced into the maryland general assembly by delegate joanne benson would shockingly require maryland residents to submit to criminal background checks before communication can begin if they use an international dating or pen pal site.
perhaps the most appalling provision would potentially require maryland men to provide to the central repository “a complete set of legible fingerprints taken at any designated state or local law enforcement office…” before they can initiate communication with a foreign woman. this is the type of draconian government intrusion into the personal sphere that joseph stalin would have approved.
penalties for violations of the dating law include a fine not exceeding $12,000 or imprisonment not exceeding one year or both.
the title of the bill “regulation of marriage brokers” is misleading and was used to suggest something sinister is occurring which needs to be regulated. the bill is littered with false, misleading and confusing language designed to suggest that international dating and friendship- a perfectly legitimate pursuit is somehow connected to trafficking or arranged marriages. these are actually two dissimilar activities and one activity is legal while the other activity is a crime. hb 596 would dangerously conflate both the legal and illegal activity as if they were the same.
the bill states it would regulate various for- profit enterprises including those that offer matrimonial and dating services. but the criminal disclosure requirements are performed before the couple has even met. how can you regulate matrimonial services if a relationship doesn’t even exist? it should come as no surprise that delegate joanne benson the sponsor of this poorly written law is one of the most liberal lawmakers within the maryland general assembly.
obviously the regulation of so-called “marriage brokers” is a spoof which surreptitiously masks the reality of a law that would violate the privacy rights of maryland men. simply put there is no justification to require maryland citizens to provide their police records before they can exchange e mails with a foreigner. this is a blatant violation of the first amendment (freedom of speech and freedom of association), the fifth and fourteenth amendments (equal protection) as well as violations of article 2, 24, 40, 44 and article 46 in the declaration of rights of the maryland constitution.
hb 596 is patterned after a similar federal law the international marriage broker regulation act which was sneaked through congress with no testimony or witnesses. american women advocacy groups and a few politicians made sensational claims that american men who date foreign women are losers, serial [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord127][CodeWord127][/url], wife beaters and “many are premeditated torturers” without supplying adequate proof of such incendiary statements, not to mention common sense. they also suggested such men were trafficking women without any proof. the washington post wrote an expose on trafficking in 2007 and found that advocacy groups had sprung up around the beltway to lap up money spent on a virtually nonexistent problem in the us.
writing a letter - including a romance letter is a legitimate activity and the government has no right to enact laws which place restrictions on relationships and communication occurring over international boundaries. the real culprits are politicians who sponsor blatantly unconstitutional laws at the beckoning of special interest groups with a hidden political agenda and lots of money.
wendy mcelroy - tuesday 31 march 2009
[url]http://www.wendymcelroy.com/news.php?extend.2356[/url]
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Closed Shop
[QUOTE=PanamaJack]Proposed law would criminalize International Romance
by Dave Root
Maryland men who wish to communicate with foreign women may need to visit their local police station if a highly controversial proposed Maryland bill (HB 596) becomes law. HB 596 recently introduced into the Maryland General Assembly by Delegate Joanne Benson would shockingly require Maryland residents to submit to criminal background checks before communication can begin if they use an international dating or pen pal site.[/QUOTE]
This is an attempt by American women to introduce the "closed shop" union rule for international romance - to prevent low-cost romantic out-souricing to offshore "romance havens" which often provide superior services at a fraction of the price (emotional and financial) of traditional American supplies.
Hey, it worked for the auto industry, didn't it??
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[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]This is an attempt by American women to introduce the "closed shop" union rule for international romance - to prevent low-cost romantic out-souricing to offshore "romance havens" which often provide superior services at a fraction of the price (emotional and financial) of traditional American supplies.
Hey, it worked for the auto industry, didn't it??[/QUOTE]
It sure did...
This is one more reason to consider living elsewhere...
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[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]It sure did...
This is one more reason to consider living elsewhere...[/QUOTE]DJ,
So where do you think to live? I think anywhere behind the USA border will work;)
Yesterday one friend brought two Russian girls to my house in the USA. In 5 min, I wanted to tell then get the fuck out. I asked them if they wanna make some salad, and they said no, they only came for a barbeque to eat! And they were saying how come it's not ready yet, and they are really hungry. They were supposed to be my friend's "friends" so I did not kick them out.
Usually girls offer some help cooking. At least what I'm used to. One of them really good looking the other quite ugly for me, but they all the time tried to tell that they are the most important shit in the universe. Incredible. They have been in the USA for a few years (one for 2 years and the other 4 years) and turned into such asshole monsters. But in Russia girls are usually are complete opposite.
On the other hand, a few days ago I was in Colombia and spent a day with one hot girl, who is also student and a fotomodel, she was doing some cooking for me and washing plates. I did not ask her to do anything of that.
What a contrast after crossing the USA border.
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[QUOTE=Goga Fung]DJ,
So where do you think to live? I think anywhere behind the USA border will work;)
Yesterday one friend brought two Russian girls to my house in the USA. In 5 min, I wanted to tell then get the fuck out. I asked them if they wanna make some salad, and they said no, they only came for a barbeque to eat! And they were saying how come it's not ready yet, and they are really hungry. They were supposed to be my friend's "friends" so I did not kick them out.
Usually girls offer some help cooking. At least what I'm used to. One of them really good looking the other quite ugly for me, but they all the time tried to tell that they are the most important shit in the universe. Incredible. They have been in the USA for a few years (one for 2 years and the other 4 years) and turned into such asshole monsters. But in Russia girls are usually are complete opposite.
On the other hand, a few days ago I was in Colombia and spent a day with one hot girl, who is also student and a fotomodel, she was doing some cooking for me and washing plates. I did not ask her to do anything of that.
What a contrast after crossing the USA border.[/QUOTE]
Its a contrast alright....
Some Aussie chick came up to me and my boy last night coming back from "The Room" in Hollywood and wanted to be friendly, she talked to us for about 5 mins and she wasn't drunk. She was one of those SKA/Punk type chicks with the Misfit t-shirt and dyed strawberry red hair.
Not my type so I really didn't pursue her. But she was nice enough.
As I said once before, if you're going to bring a girl back to the US, make sure she firmly rejects our typical way of life and is willing to pull her own weight.
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What is it with the U.S.A. that causes Women who come here from all over the world to "change"?
[QUOTE=Goga Fung]DJ,
So where do you think to live? I think anywhere behind the USA border will work;)
Yesterday one friend brought two Russian girls to my house in the USA. In 5 min, I wanted to tell then get the fuck out. I asked them if they wanna make some salad, and they said no, they only came for a barbeque to eat! And they were saying how come it's not ready yet, and they are really hungry. They were supposed to be my friend's "friends" so I did not kick them out.
Usually girls offer some help cooking. At least what I'm used to. One of them really good looking the other quite ugly for me, but they all the time tried to tell that they are the most important shit in the universe. Incredible. They have been in the USA for a few years (one for 2 years and the other 4 years) and turned into such asshole monsters. But in Russia girls are usually are complete opposite.
On the other hand, a few days ago I was in Colombia and spent a day with one hot girl, who is also student and a fotomodel, she was doing some cooking for me and washing plates. I did not ask her to do anything of that.
What a contrast after crossing the USA border.[/QUOTE]
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Simple and Not so Simple
Well, let's see:
- We have lots of guys letting them get away with it
- They have a huge network, telling them exactly what to do to "Catch" guys (The Rules, talk show hostesses, etc), and what to do after they have succeeded (The headaches, be a beeutch, lock the legs up, use sex as a weapon, nag, nag, nag)
- Lots of guys paying through the nose to look at nice looking women (Strip club mentality, screw that shit!!!)
- Women get paid just because they are cute by the weak (I will send you money because… fill in the blank)
- They have all the goods (Ass, butts, lips and tits)
- Because it is lawful
- If men haven't left the USA ever, men don't have a basis of reference to know how they should really be treated by "Real" exotic looking, shapely, women
In my opinion, all fathers should take their sons outside of the USA and mentor them on the subtleties, mannerisms, and companionship of real women. There are a few of them here, but I’ve found them all to be unavailable. Women here are spoiled, brainwashed, overweight, delusional and overconfident. We need to stop being so gullible; after all, we have something they need too. Somewhere in the middle is where we need to be between the sexes, but, we overwhelmingly give in at any hint of a tryst in the sack. Buying drinks because some random, dolled up hoe gives you the eye in a club? That is crap.
When I travel, I buy ladies drinks because I know I’m going to bed with the recipient. I love the mattress circus. They can do anything. Women here go to clubs, dressed to kill because they know they WON’T have to buy drinks; plenty of desperate, insecure, men out there willing to fall for the oldest social norm at the bar. You know: “May I buy you a $25 drink?” Gulp!!! Let the beeutch buy her own shit. I listen to them brag every Monday about those who do. What do they do in return? Nothing!!! Ahhh, sorry, guys, just venting a bit…
[QUOTE=Capt Ajax]What is it with the U.S.A. that causes Women who come here from all over the world to "change"?[/QUOTE]
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Re: Closed Shop
[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]This is an attempt by American women to introduce the "closed shop" union rule for international romance -- to prevent low-cost romantic out-sourcing to offshore "romance havens" which often provide superior services at a fraction of the price (emotional and financial) of traditional American suppliers.[/QUOTE] ROTFLMAO. Holy fuck, this is the best summary I have seen in a long time. Whew **wiping the tears of laughter away** Thanks Gentleman Travel.
Dickhead's court & "fuck all that shit!" stories are great ones, too. This is an interesting forum I obviously should pay more attention to ...
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[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]This is an attempt by American women to introduce the "closed shop" union rule for international romance - to prevent low-cost romantic out-souricing to offshore "romance havens" which often provide superior services at a fraction of the price (emotional and financial) of traditional American supplies.
[b]Hey, it worked for the auto industry, didn't it??[/b][/QUOTE]
It worked [i]for a while[/i]! The problem with this type of micro-management of romance is that it only works for a while. Over the long-term, people find an alternative to the bad deal that is being offeed.
Look at the auto industry today. GM is going bankrupt next month. Chrysler may go bankrupt next week. Only the foreign owned firms, Toyota and Nissan, are in reasonable shape.
So, in 20 years we can expect women to be in just as bad shape. You know, I have been reading horror stories about this recession. It is hitting women as well as men. It is hitting single women pretty hard, even though it is male dominated jobs such as construction and manufacturing that are being lost the most. It is hitting women hard because they are concentrated in lower paying jobs such as primary school and secondary school teaching.
Women, especially single mothers, have no savings to help them weather the recession until a better paying job comes along. There are single mothers going homeless or moving back into their mother's house. What I see is a generation of women who bragged about how they don't need a man in their lives, but who now could use some male help contributing to managing the household. I feel some sympathy but I know that they made their own beds.
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[QUOTE=George90]It worked [i]for a while[/i]
It is hitting women hard because they are concentrated in lower paying jobs such as primary school and secondary school teaching.
Women, especially single mothers, have no savings to help them weather the recession until a better paying job comes along. There are single mothers going homeless or moving back into their mother's house. What I see is a generation of women who bragged about how they don't need a man in their lives, but who now could use some male help contributing to managing the household. I feel some sympathy but I know that they made their own beds.[/QUOTE]
I think it's the guys who will get shafted royally in this global recession - soon to be depression. A woman can always go the p4p route for survival. Just look at the surge of new women advertising p4p on CL. One good thing for us, rates will decrease drastically.
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[QUOTE=Capt Ajax]I think it's the guys who will get shafted royally in this global recession - soon to be depression. [b]A woman can always go the p4p route for survival.[/b] Just look at the surge of new women advertising p4p on CL. One good thing for us, rates will decrease drastically.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. A woman has to meet some minimum level of physical attractiveness to be taken seriously in the P4P game. In addition, she has to perform a minimum number and type of sex acts to be successful.
I remember one episode of Cathouse, in which a good looking blonde waltzed into the house saying that she had pride and standards and [i]wouldn't ever do oral[/i]. So she had a series of men come on to her and she ran down her laundry list of things she doesn't do because she has pride and it is beneath her to do those things. One by one each man went with another lady. She had NO CUSTOMERS and made NO MONEY. By the end of the episode she was on a plane back to where she came from.
Given the attitudes of women in the US, I can't see many being successful in the P4P game. There are many desperate and weak men who are willing to pay good money for the crappy service he will get. But there are NOT [i]that[/i] many with [i]that much[/i] money for the average AW, who needs to, to make it in P4P.
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Is this a joke ?
What about American Women doing international dating ... would they be required to register themselves to the police station too ?
Really, America has becoma a police state, and unfortunately President Obama is doing nothing to reverse this trend.
B.B.
[QUOTE=PanamaJack]Proposed law would criminalize International Romance
Maryland men who wish to communicate with foreign women may need to visit their local police station if a highly controversial proposed Maryland bill (HB 596) becomes law. HB 596 recently introduced into the Maryland General Assembly by Delegate Joanne Benson would shockingly require Maryland residents to submit to criminal background checks before communication can begin if they use an international dating or pen pal site.
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[QUOTE=Capt Ajax]What is it with the U.S.A. that causes Women who come here from all over the world to "change"?[/QUOTE]
The culture. American men are always going out of their way to be nice to women in the hope of getting some pussy. Many, immigrant women soon realize that pussy rules in America. Then they promptly use it to whip the men chasing after them into shape. Soon after daily supplication from scores of vagina worshipers the women lose all respect for American men and treat them accordingly to the approval of her American sisters.
As long as men buy women free drinks, dinners and jewelry in order to "get lucky," women who come to this country will continue to change. They're just adapting to their surroundings.
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[QUOTE=George90]I disagree. A woman has to meet some minimum level of physical attractiveness to be taken seriously in the P4P game. In addition, she has to perform a minimum number and type of sex acts to be successful.
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I disagree. Have you seen some of the P4P ladies on CL. All freaking shapes and sizes. There are ladies on there that I would not fuck with your dick....had one lady, a 3 toothed BBW, who has ads on CL, tell me her phone was always ringing off the hook. Of course I made a U turn when I saw her. For most American men there is no minimum level of physical attractiveness, we will fuck anything that moves, if we are horny enough.......including a hole in a tree.
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[QUOTE=Capt Ajax] For most American men there is no minimum level of physical attractiveness, we will fuck anything that moves if we are horny enough.......including a hole in a tree.[/QUOTE]
Well said. I've always said " all it takes is a good looking toe and you have 100 guys lined up"
The brutal part is getting dissed by a chump change hoe worth $6 or less abroad. It doesn't bother me anymore but it does extremely limit your expectations or desire to go out.
Alot of men are absolute losers in this game. Those who do break through the barriers do so with so much effort that they feel entitiled to cheat. The wheel spins round and round until everbody gets dizzy and falls out.
I meet other mongers who face age discrimination. I'd like to NOT be here by the time that rolls along.
The scene is ugly...no hope in sight. I wish I could be more positive but I cant.