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[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]
What I don't understand about Thatguy's position is IF he's agreeing with me on the "we need variety" shit why the humongous double standard? What's wrong with sauce for the goose being sauce for the gander as well? Why would the ideal male be one who has slept with thousands of women but at the same time the ideal female be a VIRGIN?[/QUOTE]
Because picking up women requires skills, resources, or both. As a man, you either have to be good at picking up (a skill whether natural or learned) or have enough money to attract a woman.
A woman can just go into any bar, talk to almost any guy, and go home. Guaranteed as long as she isn't a troll.
Here's a metaphor to better explain the concept.
A key that can open many locks is the master key. A lock that is opened by many keys is a faulty lock.
[QUOTE=Dickhead]Ummm ... marrying and having children are two different things, in case you were unaware.[/QUOTE]
But nowadays having children is the only reason to get married, and even that is slowly changing.
For some, marriage isn't even a prerequisite to having kids.
[QUOTE=BH Bound]Because picking up women requires skills, resources, or both. As a man, you either have to be good at picking up (a skill whether natural or learned) or have enough money to attract a woman.
A woman can just go into any bar, talk to almost any guy, and go home. Guaranteed as long as she isn't a troll.
Here's a metaphor to better explain the concept.
A key that can open many locks is the master key. A lock that is opened by many keys is a faulty lock.[/QUOTE]
That's an interesting analogy, although I don't agree with it..... I don't think sex or relationships should have that kind of a "key and lock" dynamic to it... it should be two or three or however many people just exploring, having fun and being creative, hopefully in a way that doesn't cause epidemics or lead to genetic birth defects, but other than that, anything goes!!
We have a few fucked up religions floating around the planet that preach that the best kind of a woman is a virgin, and this leads to all sorts of stupid shit regarding women and how they relate to their own sexuality...
I couldn't help but ROFL when I was watching the news today. The reporter was interviewing a waitress at a seafood restaurant claiming her manager asked her to turn his "shrimp into a lobster!"
FYI, TG865 there are many more fucked up women in the U.S.A than anywhere else in the world. I'm betting in the U.S.A. the ratio is 9 fucked up women for every 10 women===>(0.9). For other countries this ratio is probably no higher than 0.2.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865]You name the place and I can show you a post where someone is complaining about a provider or a woman from that country who did them wrong. There are no perfect places. There are men who get with bad women in every country. I can easily find post in every local you named where someone is complaining about a babe who either didn't provide jack, rip them off, scammed them or just were lousy lays. It happens the world over. It just the guys on this site got lousy lays from AW. But there are plenty who don't. There is a similar forum to this one dedicated strictly to US sex providers and it has as many if not more members as this one. So there must be a lot of happy AM with AW. It just Thatguy. Telling it like it is. ya dig.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Capt Ajax]FYI, TG865 there are many more fucked up women in the USA A than anywhere else in the world. I'm betting in the USA the ratio is 9 fucked up women for every 10 women=== (0. 9). For other countries this ratio is probably no higher than 0. 2.[/QUOTE]No. Thats what you think. Because as a foreigner. Especially a westerner going to another country. You are considered wealthy, educated and a great catch. Whether you really are or not. Its a preception. And as they say "preception is reality". So therefore women who would say "FU" to a similar guy from their own country. Will say yes to you. Which gives you the impression the women in these countries are so friendly and loose. NOT!. You are just seen as the Donald trump. Thats why so many old, fat, out of shape, mongers get laid in these countries. Do you really think a native guy who looks the same gets the same treatment. No Way.
[QUOTE=Clandestine782]Lower than whom? I am just reading an interesting book about that. And the US is the only advanced country that is reproducing in such a way as to maintain its population. I'm also reading ("America Alone," by Mark Steyn, the crux of which was that Europe is suffering from fatal population declines and will soon be overrun with Muslims.) that even within the US, the birth rate of Red States is higher than that of Blue States. I am not sure if infidelity has ANY effect on birth rate (at least not one that I can find on a brief perusal). Also not sure what you mean about men being expected to marry to progress in the corporate world. China (which is MOST of Asia) has the one child policy and has a rate of something like 1.82 children per woman. Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan, South Korea and Singapore are all close to 1.2 children per women. Waaaay below replacement rate.[/QUOTE]
The Red State, Blue State phenomena is also sited in the book Red Families vs Blue Families and used Bristol Palin has a shinning example...
Nobody is complaining about replacement here in America but of continued growth... Latinos are having children at a rate higher than replacement of Black and White couples and there many cultural aspects of this that are very interesting. One of them, Latinas are more likely to get family support even in single parent child birth than Black or White woman in the same position. When you hear of girls getting kicked out or leaving (forced out) the family home its usually White, followed by Black families that do this BS.
Asian countries limit how many children are born by law, a law that many "free thinking" Americans would find unacceptable. By contrast many European countries are getting older, yet you have higher rates of domestic partnerships, which leads to fewer children being born. It is accepted in much of Europe that marriage is preferred before having children, not having children and then getting married (Shotgun Weddings). Domestic Partnership delays marriage, in turn delays children. I was watching a show and a older couple (late 30's) got married at this special chapel that's located on the North Sea coast. During the interview they mentioned they had been together 5 years but felt no rush to get married, but then thought, why not. They then said that MAYBE in the future they will have children.
When you pair that statement with the fact that Germany is encouraging women to have children (cash incentive) and men (husbands) take more paid leave to help with newborns is a policy that makes sense but more has to do with the concerns of population count and age.
This is also a policy and concern in Russia and much of Western Europe. Russia is paying (cash incentive) women to have children, preferable in wedlock but as far as I know that's not a requirement...
As to DH concern about infidelity, this is not scientific just personal opinion -
The last thing a man engaging extra martial affairs or even a "chick on the side" in a long term relationships wants the least amount of entanglements...
Which means you're more likely to wear a condom or the woman is more likely to be on the pill because she doesn't want a child on accident. Also in places like Russia abortion rates are almost double that of the United States.
Just in that final sentence you had see the impact of RELIGION in our social discourse.
[QUOTE=Dickhead]Ummm ... marrying and having children are two different things, in case you were unaware.[/QUOTE]
Yes but things like social polices, maybe like NO SEX ED, Abstinence Only that in many Red States leads to more teenage pregnancy?! Shouldn't it be the other way around?
Britain is not secular either because like America religion does have an impact on social discourse and political outcomes. Teen Pregnancy is not all that high but I think I mentioned before one section of former working class town, over 50% of the high school aged girls are pregnant or have children already...
Many unmarried coupes have children - Goldie Hawn/Kurt Russell = Kate Hudson (Not her biological father) but she said Bill Hudson doesn't know her from a hole in the wall (He's married to Cindy Williams of Lavern and Shirley fame) so not only is she a product of a blended family but her father isn't really her father and he's (Kurt) not married to her mother - Go figure
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]That's an interesting analogy, although I don't agree with it..... I don't think sex or relationships should have that kind of a "key and lock" dynamic to it... it should be two or three or however many people just exploring, having fun and being creative, hopefully in a way that doesn't cause epidemics or lead to genetic birth defects, but other than that, anything goes!!
We have a few fucked up religions floating around the planet that preach that the best kind of a woman is a virgin, and this leads to all sorts of stupid shit regarding women and how they relate to their own sexuality...[/QUOTE]
Very true...
And by the way, I don't require variety. However that does not mean a quick roll in the hay isn't beyond reality for me. Meaning, that being involved in a loving, caring long term relationship, sometimes the forbidden becomes very attractive but you wouldn't want to ruin your already good relationship for some one-time pussy. So the chances of me cheatoing are rare but not impossible and the circumstances have to be just right otherwise its not worth the time and possible trouble it might cause.
BC its clear you just don't give a fuck (which is perfectly okay) so feelings for another never enter into the equation because you don't allow it.
For you P4P and casual relationship are ideal for you but not everybody and marriage is not an outdated concept. That's why I call today Post-Modern; being an individual is deemed more important and for many now days, the modern trappings of individualism outweigh the rewards of child bearing and nurturing of intimate relationships.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865]No. Thats what you think. Because as a foreigner. Especially a westerner going to another country. You are considered wealthy, educated and a great catch. Whether you really are or not. Its a preception. And as they say "preception is reality". So therefore women who would say "FU" to a similar guy from their own country. Will say yes to you. Which gives you the impression the women in these countries are so friendly and loose. NOT!. You are just seen as the Donald trump. Thats why so many old, fat, out of shape, mongers get laid in these countries. Do you really think a native guy who looks the same gets the same treatment. No Way.[/QUOTE]That's could be in a theory. In reality when you go to another country you can see lots of extremely hot women with average or old local guys. You would almost never see this in USA.
You're talking only about some type of women who are interested in foreigners and just having fun. Including working girls, etc. But there are different types of women too.
I have actually had problems getting to some women "closer" in Central Asia. One of the reason was. I was considered a foreigner and will probably leave the country soon. They would prefer a local but reliable guy than me. Who would less likely to leave them. Many women there do not like to fuck around, it is bad for their reputation. And they do not want to get hurt if somebody leaves them after they get fucked. But if you are there of a long time, then it can be a paradise. Nothing like compared to YewEss.
Steven Seagal cannot afford the life he wants to with all his money because of an american biyotch. He learned his lesson to stay away from AW.
BTW, she is quiet an ugly lesbian "model". He should have sticked to Russian girls
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Steven Seagal is accused of hiring young women as personal attendants whose real job was to serve his strange and sometimes violent sexual desires, according to a civil lawsuit filed Monday in Los Angeles by a 23-year-old former model who describes her experience in harrowing detail.
The plaintiff, Kayden Nguyen, said she met the action star in February through an ad on Craigslist seeking an executive assistant and, after three interviews, was told to pack for a trip to New Orleans, where the A&E show "Steven Seagal Lawman" was taping.
When she arrived, the lawsuit says, she discovered that Seagal had been keeping two young female Russian "attendants" who were essentially on-call for sex — 24-seven.
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[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]Very true...
And by the way, I don't require variety. However that does not mean a quick roll in the hay isn't beyond reality for me. Meaning, that being involved in a loving, caring long term relationship, sometimes the forbidden becomes very attractive but you wouldn't want to ruin your already good relationship for some one-time pussy. So the chances of me cheatoing are rare but not impossible and the circumstances have to be just right otherwise its not worth the time and possible trouble it might cause.
BC its clear you just don't give a fuck (which is perfectly okay) so feelings for another never enter into the equation because you don't allow it.
For you P4P and casual relationship are ideal for you but not everybody and marriage is not an outdated concept. That's why I call today Post-Modern; being an individual is deemed more important and for many now days, the modern trappings of individualism outweigh the rewards of child bearing and nurturing of intimate relationships.[/QUOTE]
That's the part people don't seem to get.... why does a relationship that's sexually exclusive get to be labelled "caring" and one that's sexually open HAVE to be labelled as "cold" and a relationship between people who "don't give a fuck" ... why can't we be loving and caring WITHOUT giving up our NATURAL freedom? Why is it that if I LOVE somebody ENOUGH to share them, that means I "don't have feelings" for them??
The thing I like best about p4p is the total and utter TRANSPARENCY in the relationship... In my experience that's WAY better than the average "traditional" relationship I have been in where everything is one big fucking lie... I recognize the need to lie socially under certain circumstances but i DON'T accept it with people I'm close to... THAT is why I will NEVER enter into another monogamous relationship, more than any other reason.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865]No. Thats what you think. Because as a foreigner. Especially a westerner going to another country. You are considered wealthy, educated and a great catch. Whether you really are or not. Its a preception. And as they say "preception is reality". So therefore women who would say "FU" to a similar guy from their own country. Will say yes to you. Which gives you the impression the women in these countries are so friendly and loose. NOT!. You are just seen as the Donald trump. Thats why so many old, fat, out of shape, mongers get laid in these countries. Do you really think a native guy who looks the same gets the same treatment. No Way.[/QUOTE]
Very true. I realized that rather quickly and went right back to being a ***** monger...where I belong.
[QUOTE=Goga Fung]Steven Seagal cannot afford the life he wants to with all his money because of an american biyotch. He learned his lesson to stay away from AW.
BTW, she is quiet an ugly lesbian "model". He should have sticked to Russian girls
[url]http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20002440-504083.html[/url]
[url]http://www.mahalo.com/kayden-nguyen[/url]
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Steven Seagal is accused of hiring young women as personal attendants whose real job was to serve his strange and sometimes violent sexual desires, according to a civil lawsuit filed Monday in Los Angeles by a 23-year-old former model who describes her experience in harrowing detail.
The plaintiff, Kayden Nguyen, said she met the action star in February through an ad on Craigslist seeking an executive assistant and, after three interviews, was told to pack for a trip to New Orleans, where the A&E show "Steven Seagal Lawman" was taping.
When she arrived, the lawsuit says, she discovered that Seagal had been keeping two young female Russian "attendants" who were essentially on-call for sex — 24-seven.
Read more: [url]http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/36446224/[/url][/QUOTE]
lol, I immediatly thought the same thing when I first read this. Why do this with an American girl??? It's suicide!