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[QUOTE=Rock Dog]Dude, what gives?
You used to go on and on about how great things were in Australia. I remember quite a few discussions where you extolled the numerous good qualities of Aussie women and how favorably they compared with women from other countries.
My guess is that something major must have happened for you to change your opinion like this. Care to share any details?
Rock[/QUOTE]
One of my ex-girlfriends has sued me for alimony in Oz. We weren't even married but legally she is entitled to money because she lived with me for more than 6 months. Australia used to be a good country for women, mostly because of open immigration from around the world, the government has been tightening rules on migration over the past couple of years. Rather than pay her I am leaving the country, hopefully going to greener pastures in Poland or another Central European country.
A few mates of mine told me that a lot of women like a guy to get them pregnant so they can get some nice welfare payments from the government as well as money from the father. It turns out in Australia that a single female with a child could get about A$4000 a month to sit on her rear end from the Australian government. With Australian tax rates, to get that money by working she would have to earn over $100K a year.
In the beginning, Aussie women approach you nicely, but once they get entangled in your business and life's problems things change dramatically. If you like short term engagements Australia is okay, but don't expect to find the love of your life here. In the long run they aren't much different than your average American or Anglo Canadian female.
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... entitled to money
[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]One of my ex-girlfriends has sued me for alimony in Oz. We weren't even married but legally she is entitled to money because she lived with me for more than 6 months. ......, but don't expect to find the love of your life here. In the long run they aren't much different than your average American or Anglo Canadian female.[/QUOTE]
Good "eye-opener". You see, there is no free pussy. We have to take out that " they are free" - illusion off everybody. They are not !!! No pussy is ! Some take their money straight away after the pop, the otheres play the love fiddle and go for longterm income. Last group is far more dangerous !
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Same Old Story
Yeah, that doesn't surprise me one bit.
We see the same thing happening all the time here in Canada. women don't even bother to get married anymore.... they just "cohabitate" with you for more than 6 months. Then they have you by the short and curlies.
The more money you make, the worse it gets. I have a suspicion that there is a fair bit of jealousy that comes into play when a guy becomes successful and does well for himself. Everyone out there gets mad that they don't have as much so they try dream up a way of getting something for nothing.
There are large numbers of women who are doing this. Where I live, the birthrate amongst the losers on welfare is TRIPLE the normal rate. Something is very wrong here. If it was up to me, I'd put a cap on the system. No new cases, any woman getting pregnant AFTER going on welfare should automatically have the kid taken away for adoption. Why? To protect the kid from being raised by such a loser. If they really want to keep the kid, fine.... but NO extra money! They can fucking well go out and earn the extra money to support the kid themselves.
I also happen to think that mandatory birth control for welfare recipients is not unfair. They do NOT have the right to go out and reproduce while expecting everyone else to foot the bill. Of course, all the politically correct/women's rights/social activist types will prevent this from ever happening until things get intolerable.
It sounds like things are really soft in Australia. If what CBGB described is accurate, they are actually rewarding people for being losers. Chances are they have a much higher than average "loser birthrate" as well. At least here, welfare would only come into play as a supplement to monies from the father.
One last thing..... let's all give 3 cheers to CBGB for standing his ground! Maybe he's just one guy, but by refusing to pay, he's sending out the right message to these slacker b*tches.
Rock
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The Descent of Woman
I am reading The God Delusion. Dawkins makes a good point on pages 184/5 about polyamory, simultaneously loving more than one person of the opposite sex. We can love more than one child, parent, sibling, teacher or pet. But only one woman. He poses the question that spousal love is positively weird. This opens up a lot of possibilities and answers a lot of questions. Maybe we are ending the need to procreate ourselves and to fall uniquely in love. Maybe mindless, mind blowing sex is the way of the future. Ergo, maybe AW types have no further need to supply the service.
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CBGB said: [i]It turns out in Australia that a single female with a child could get about A$4000 a month to sit on her rear end from the Australian government. With Australian tax rates, to get that money by working she would have to earn over $100K a year.[/i]
That is complete bullshit. I am currently receiving the single parents pension (I'm temporarily unemployed - long story, but it certainly wasn't by choice). I have TWO children and receive around $400 a week ($1600 a month). A mother with one child gets about $35 per week less. Additional children are worth about an extra $140 per month, so the more babies you pop out, the worse off you are financially (contrary to popular belief).
Oz welfare payments ARE affected by child support payments - if you're lucky enough to get money from the selfish, loser father, your welfare payments go down. If he's paying a large enough amount, welfare payments will be cut off completely.
'Alimony' payments are not really a common phenomenon in Australia, so if you are in fact being sued for alimony, you must have found yourself a very rare Australian woman indeed. If you're actually talking about defacto asset division, that is a very different situation. What concerns me is your post then focuses on women getting pregnant and demanding child support payments. Is that what you're really talking about? That you got this woman pregnant and now you're taking off overseas to avoid your financial responsibilities as a father?
I've read a number of your recent posts and I've had a gutful of you slagging off ALL Aussie girls just because you couldn't make your relationship work with ONE particular Aussie girl. You slagged off American women after shit relationships in your home country and now you're doing the same thing to the women in mine. I'm sure the girls in Europe will have their turn when you have another relationship fuck up over there. But of course that won't be your fault, either - you'll come up with every misogynistic reason under the sun to explain why you can't sustain a meaningful relationship with a woman. Maybe you're just a complete dickhead - have you considered that?
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[QUOTE=Rubber Nursey]CBGB said: [i]It turns out in Australia that a single female with a child could get about A$4000 a month to sit on her rear end from the Australian government. With Australian tax rates, to get that money by working she would have to earn over $100K a year.[/i]
That is complete bullshit. I am currently receiving the single parents pension (I'm temporarily unemployed - long story, but it certainly wasn't by choice). I have TWO children and receive around $400 a week ($1600 a month). A mother with one child gets about $35 per week less. Additional children are worth about an extra $140 per month, so the more babies you pop out, the worse off you are financially (contrary to popular belief).
Oz welfare payments ARE affected by child support payments - if you're lucky enough to get money from the selfish, loser father, your welfare payments go down. If he's paying a large enough amount, welfare payments will be cut off completely.
'Alimony' payments are not really a common phenomenon in Australia, so if you are in fact being sued for alimony, you must have found yourself a very rare Australian woman indeed. If you're actually talking about defacto asset division, that is a very different situation. What concerns me is your post then focuses on women getting pregnant and demanding child support payments. Is that what you're really talking about? That you got this woman pregnant and now you're taking off overseas to avoid your financial responsibilities as a father?
I've read a number of your recent posts and I've had a gutful of you slagging off ALL Aussie girls just because you couldn't make your relationship work with ONE particular Aussie girl. You slagged off American women after shit relationships in your home country and now you're doing the same thing to the women in mine. I'm sure the girls in Europe will have their turn when you have another relationship fuck up over there. But of course that won't be your fault, either - you'll come up with every mysogynistic reason under the sun to explain why you can't sustain a meaningful relationship with a woman. Maybe you're just a complete dickhead - have you considered that?[/QUOTE]Hear hear!
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Winners and Losers
Rock Dog: The poor tend to have more kids. The stable poor regard them as a retirement plan. The Philippinnes, for example, is awash with kids, all trying to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Winning and losing is not a funciton of having a job and income or not. Shit happens.
I have some experience of Australia, where I knew several women who deliberately got impregnated to get an allowance from guys they knoew would not walk away. Other Ossies I knew were really pissed off at the Family Courts for shaking them down and giving their ex wives the entire pot. I have known similar in Europe and the States.
The moral is ismple. Be a Mick Jagger not a Paul McCartney. Paul really fucked up after Linda died and now he will pay for it.
Anyway, the poor and the dysfunctional have a hard enough time without you beating up on them. Your taxes go on a million silly things. Helping the poor is not the silliest of them.
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Bart9000
Clean out your PM box, I can't send you any until you clean house
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[QUOTE=Rubber Nursey]CBGB said: [i]It turns out in Australia that a single female with a child could get about A$4000 a month to sit on her rear end from the Australian government. With Australian tax rates, to get that money by working she would have to earn over $100K a year.[/i]
That is complete bullshit. I am currently receiving the single parents pension (I'm temporarily unemployed - long story, but it certainly wasn't by choice). I have TWO children and receive around $400 a week ($1600 a month). A mother with one child gets about $35 per week less. Additional children are worth about an extra $140 per month, so the more babies you pop out, the worse off you are financially (contrary to popular belief).
Oz welfare payments ARE affected by child support payments - if you're lucky enough to get money from the selfish, loser father, your welfare payments go down. If he's paying a large enough amount, welfare payments will be cut off completely.
'Alimony' payments are not really a common phenomenon in Australia, so if you are in fact being sued for alimony, you must have found yourself a very rare Australian woman indeed. If you're actually talking about defacto asset division, that is a very different situation. What concerns me is your post then focuses on women getting pregnant and demanding child support payments. Is that what you're really talking about? That you got this woman pregnant and now you're taking off overseas to avoid your financial responsibilities as a father?
I've read a number of your recent posts and I've had a gutful of you slagging off ALL Aussie girls just because you couldn't make your relationship work with ONE particular Aussie girl. You slagged off American women after shit relationships in your home country and now you're doing the same thing to the women in mine. I'm sure the girls in Europe will have their turn when you have another relationship fuck up over there. But of course that won't be your fault, either - you'll come up with every misogynistic reason under the sun to explain why you can't sustain a meaningful relationship with a woman. Maybe you're just a complete dickhead - have you considered that?[/QUOTE]
The unemployment rate in Australia is around 4.8 percent, there is absolutely no reason for you to sit on your fat ass collecting money from Centrelink. See fellas, RN(big time nurse shortage in Oz, you should have no trouble finding a job) is your typical Aussie female.
I will have a much better time in Eastern Europe, there is no ultra generous social welfare bullshit over there. I didn't make any sexist comments, in fact, I have nothing against a woman who gets off her ass to work.
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[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]The unemployment rate in Australia is around 4.8 percent, there is absolutely no reason for you to sit on your fat ass collecting money from Centrelink. See fellas, RN(big time nurse shortage in Oz, you should have no trouble finding a job) is your typical Aussie female.
I will have a much better time in Eastern Europe, there is no ultra generous social welfare bullshit over there. I didn't make any sexist comments, in fact, I have nothing against a woman who gets off her ass to work.[/QUOTE]
After all these years on this site, you should know that I'm not a real nurse - I've always made that perfectly clear. (I'm trained as a sexual health educator, but have no formal nursing qualifications).
I have been a single mother for most of the last 13 years. If you added up all the SHORT periods of unemployment I've had over that time, I would have spent perhaps 2 out of those 13 years out of the workforce.
My most recent foray into dolebludgerdom was a result of a life-threatening illness - the debilitating side effects of which I am still suffering from, months after (successful) treatment ended. I hope that's a good enough 'loser excuse' for you all. Even so, I still take on casual paid work whenever I can get it and volunteer for two organisations, totalling up to 30 hours a week.
But this isn't about me. This is about your complete backflip on the virtues of dating Aussie women, just because one of them screwed you around (or so you say - its not like you're going to come on here telling us all the things YOU did wrong in the relationship).
So why the big attack on single Mums, huh? CSA after you?
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I Strongly Object
Rubber Nursey: "My most recent foray into dolebludgerdom was a result of a life-threatening illness - the debilitating side effects of which I am still suffering from, months after (successful) treatment ended. I hope that's a good enough 'loser excuse' for you all."
I strongly object to this recent post as, if you read my previously post which will come up with this, I and, I hope, the vast majority of enlightened people here, do not differentiate between others in such a reactionary and retarded way. Although your own private life is none of our concern, a few real losers coming on here and ganging up on those more unfortunate than themsleves speak for no one but themselves.
As you are an Australian citizen, you are entitled, as a right, to whatever you are entitled to, plain and simple. And if others object to people claiming their rights, well f--k them. Let them join a political party, set themselves on fire in protest, jump off a cliff, trawl Odessa for compliant gypsy babes, whatever.
I felt I had to post this to emphasise that retards speak only for themselves.
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[QUOTE=PanamaJack]Long Stroker,
Thats fucking ridiculuos, so many guys are being straight up fucked by this courts, shit by the hole system, I guess the way it looks for men in this country, "your guilty until proven innocent".[/QUOTE]
Co-Worker married his girlfriend when she became pregnant about 6 years ago. I'll call him Fred. It did not work out and she left him when the baby was less than one year. Now I admit that Fred is not the sharpest tool in the tool box, but the girl runs off with an old friend she used to date and has kept in touch with since before She and Fred were dating or got married. He is never able to see the child, but the payments keep coming out of his check. When he complains about this the courts do nothing.
One of the ex-wives girls friends, who is nice and honest I guess, finally tells Fred that she cannot stand to see him being taken to the cleaners.
Tells Fred that the baby is not his, and his ex-wife has always known that it was never his. She had been fucking this old boyfriend she lives with now all the way through her relationship with Fred. Now his ex-wife and her boyfriend are supplementing their life style off the child payments for the child he is supporting...their child
When he petitioned the court to have a DNA test, because the mother of course would not agree to take one, they refused and told him that he had already signed on the birth certificate that he is the father and they are not willing to let him have it removed for any reason. He can't afford an attorney so he is stuck.
That is the legal system in the USA. Not about justice.. right or wrong..not at all
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I thought...
I thought that this forum dealt with that scary and quixotic creature called the American woman. How did the topic of WELFARE work its way in here???Welfare is a very emotional and wildly misunderstood topic that everyone is an "expert" on. The whole topic of welfare makes me comatose. Let's get back to AW.
CBGB,
Dude, I would not tangle with RN. She knows her stuff and has this sassy, rapier like wit. She's a legend around here and anyone who takes her on is looking for a major league ass whipping - metaphorically speaking.
Everyone have a good week.
Paddy
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[quote=paddy]i thought that this forum dealt with that scary and quixotic creature called the american woman. how did the topic of welfare work its way in here???welfare is a very emotional and wildly misunderstood topic that everyone is an "expert" on. the whole topic of welfare makes me comatose. let's get back to aw.
cbgb,
dude, i would not tangle with rn. she knows her stuff and has this sassy, rapier like wit. she's a legend around here and anyone who takes her on is looking for a major league ass whipping - metaphorically speaking.
everyone have a good week.
paddy[/quote]
let me guess, you're another butt licking aussie/red coat male?? to my fellow americans looking for greener pastures, forget australia. you have the verdict... australia is a dessicated, cultureless, former penal colony... in other words a shithole. there are better places in the world to spend your hard earned money. retards(especially asian tourists) from around the world flock to see the opera house and sydney harbour bridge, whoooopeeeee.
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[quote=cbgbconnisur]let me guess, you're another butt licking aussie/red coat male?? to my fellow americans looking for greener pastures, forget australia. you have the verdict... australia is a dessicated, cultureless, former penal colony... in other words a shithole. there are better places in the world to spend your hard earned money. retards(especially asian tourists) from around the world flock to see the opera house and sydney harbour bridge, whoooopeeeee.[/quote]
hahahahaha that's right- retards from around the world flock to our country. ;)
and it's over two hundred years since we were a penal colony. couldn't you come up with a more modern and relevant excuse to hate us? oh, that's right - our women get pregnant and then expect men to face up to their financial responsibilities as fathers. can you believe the audacity of those money-hungry b*tches!!!