Of course there are women who pay for sex these days, it's all part of that empowerment shit. More power to 'them.
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Of course there are women who pay for sex these days, it's all part of that empowerment shit. More power to 'them.
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger; 1244419]They do pay for it too but not in their home countries. They also keep a lot quieter about it than guys who monger. Lots of women go to Bali to spare a horse and ride a kuta cowboy. Some of them are paying for it with the alimony check from some poor sucker back home.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq5Si3oSdkg[/url][/QUOTE]I was referring to in non-pro situations. I expect women I date to contribute financially. P4P is different, one pays for immediate sexual gratification and expects a certain level of professionalism on the part of the pro.
Isn't that a big part of the appeal of P4P?
Everything is clear, no games.
American women want to walk some sort of rediculous line where they expect to be taken care of but at the same time be equal. I'm not saying mongering is a reversion to old fashioned gender roles but there's no mistaking the nature of the things (hopefully).
Although an ISG member for years, I only post when I believe I have something new to contribute.
Back in July. 2011, Catherine Kieu cut off her husband's dick, and ground it up in a garbage disposal.
This was briefly discussed in this thread, circa July 17, 2011.
Every member of ISG should Google Kieu CBS "The Talk".
The segments in question aired July 15th. 2011 and a follow up,"apology" segment on July 20th.
The host's, guest's, and audience's conduct, (I believe the audience is 100% female) in both segments are highly enlightening.
Since this is a "live" show, it shows AWs in their true light.
Also instructive is the lack of "blow back" CBS and the show's host got for this garbage.
I'm going to use these clips an educational tool for men who are still unable or unwilling to see AWs for what the really are.
NOTE:I'm technologically challenged.
Perhaps Jackson or a more tech savvy member could provide a direct link to the segments mentioned above.
How is this even possible? Just blows my mind.
[url]http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/first-week-in-season-1-cut-off-from-the-world.html[/url]#mkcpgn=snag1
This is why there is a 0. 0% chance of ever even asking an AW to join me for a glass of water. They are sinister and evil on a level I have experienced personally and their methodology for relationships is warped beyond comprehension. I tried the the marriage game once. I learned a valuable lesson then: That the US Domestic Court System is completely biased against men. The trap is the marriage certificate. Even with a legally signed and certified pre-nuptial agreement, DNA evidence, video and witnesses corraborating infidelity from your spouse, you can't win. Sorry for my rant, here is the link: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81D9W4DD8Kg.[/url] May all the ladies who laughed at the guy and had fun have a scorching case of a venereal desease!
[QUOTE=Laser Eye; 1245423]Although an ISG member for years, I only post when I believe I have something new to contribute.
Back in July. 2011, Catherine Kieu cut off her husband's dick, and ground it up in a garbage disposal.
This was briefly discussed in this thread, circa July 17, 2011.
Every member of ISG should Google Kieu CBS "The Talk".
The segments in question aired July 15th. 2011 and a follow up,"apology" segment on July 20th.
The host's, guest's, and audience's conduct, (I believe the audience is 100% female) in both segments are highly enlightening.
Since this is a "live" show, it shows AWs in their true light.
Also instructive is the lack of "blow back" CBS and the show's host got for this garbage.
I'm going to use these clips an educational tool for men who are still unable or unwilling to see AWs for what the really are.
NOTE:I'm technologically challenged.
Perhaps Jackson or a more tech savvy member could provide a direct link to the segments mentioned above.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Laser Eye; 1245423]Although an ISG member for years, I only post when I believe I have something new to contribute.
Back in July. 2011, Catherine Kieu cut off her husband's dick, and ground it up in a garbage disposal.
This was briefly discussed in this thread, circa July 17, 2011.
Every member of ISG should Google Kieu CBS "The Talk".
The segments in question aired July 15th. 2011 and a follow up,"apology" segment on July 20th.
The host's, guest's, and audience's conduct, (I believe the audience is 100% female) in both segments are highly enlightening.
Since this is a "live" show, it shows AWs in their true light.
Also instructive is the lack of "blow back" CBS and the show's host got for this garbage.
I'm going to use these clips an educational tool for men who are still unable or unwilling to see AWs for what the really are.
NOTE:I'm technologically challenged.
Perhaps Jackson or a more tech savvy member could provide a direct link to the segments mentioned above.[/QUOTE]I have completely (well not completely, about 95%) given up on AW locally or elsewhere because the problem as been often repeated here is the culture we live in, not so much women themselves.
ManWomenMyth is an excellent site and You Tube is also full of sources of opinion that are often correct.
I am talking to foreign women exclusively now and things are moving along smoothly. I will update this soon, but this goes to my plan I hatched back late 2011 to; Wait for it!
Get married! Yes I know most of you do not support that but I want to have children and most of you are childless and plan on staying that way for whatever reason and frankly I am not interested in why.
[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney; 1245498]I am talking to foreign women exclusively now and things are moving along smoothly. I will update this soon, but this goes to my plan I hatched back late 2011 to; Wait for it!
Get married! Yes I know most of you do not support that but I want to have children and most of you are childless and plan on staying that way for whatever reason and frankly I am not interested in why.[/QUOTE]What does having a child have to do with getting married? I am all for the former, but the latter is when you screw yourself. Don't get the two confused and think you have to combine them. You can most certainly do one without doing the other. Then again it could work out in your favor. I found myself thinking of all the friends and family members who I have known that have gotten married (more than one time for several people). Are they still together? For me, in most cases (including my own) they are not. Who is on the chopping block now? My 29 year old brother (10 years younger than me). You always think that the younger people will learn from the mistakes of the older people. The fact is though that everyone has to learn on their own. He ran off and got married to a psycho woman without telling anyone and now 3 years later he is about to lose his house and a car and who knows how much child support he will have to pay. Fortunately he works for himself so he can just about say he makes whatever he wants as far as the numbers are concerned. Also, my aunt who is 62 is about to get married for the third time.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;1235627]I got divorced, had a prenup, the judge wiped his ass with it and she still took half my shit.[/QUOTE]Forgive me for being naive, but how did that happen?
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1245608]Forgive me for being naive, but how did that happen?[/QUOTE]I can't comment on the Manizales911 situation, but did you see this news story today? Apparently, judges in America have the power to force a guy to take his wife on a date-as a punishment? So, I guess they can wipe their asses with a prenup too, if they feel like it.
[url]http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/weird/Judge-Orders-Florida-Man-To-Take-His-Wife-on-a-Date-138920574.html[/url]
Just in time for Valentine's Day, a Florida judge ruled on Tuesday that a man involved in a scuffle with his wife treat her to an evening at a local bowling alley and a romantic meal at Red Lobster.
Judge John Hurley ordered that Joseph Bray. 47 and his wife Sonja. 39, also visit a marriage counselor.
Hurley handed down this ruling instead of setting bond or slapping Bray with a prison sentence after he deemed domestic violence charges leveled by Bray's wife to be "very, very minor."
According to Bray's arrest affidavit, Bray and his wife got embroiled in a spat after he failed to wish her a happy birthday. Bray's wife claims that her husband shoved her against a sofa and grabbed her neck.
The judge, citing Bray's otherwise clean record and the incident's apparent lack of serious violence, did not consider Bray's behavior a major offense. However, Bray must follow the stipulations of Hurley's ruling very closely if he wants to avoid potential jail time.
"He's going to stop by somewhere and he's going to get some flowers," Hurley said at a hearing, according to Florida newspaper Sun Sentinel."And then he's going to go home, pick up his wife, get dressed, take her to Red Lobster. And then after they have Red Lobster, they're going to go bowling."
Hurley noted that he would not typically treat a domestic violence charge in a similarly jocular or light-hearted manner.
"The court would not normally [make this ruling] if the court felt there was some violence but this is very, very minor and the court felt that that was a better resolution than the other alternatives," Hurley said.
According to Google Maps, there is a Red Lobster conveniently located in Plantation, Florida—Bray's city of residence—adjacent to a Kohl's and nearby the Broward Mall.
Fortunately for Bray and his wife, the Plantation Red Lobster receives high marks in Google Maps' Review section.
Google user Georgia Valente writes that "of all the Red Lobsters in South Florida," the couple's dinner destination is "quite possibly the best."
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1245603]What does having a child have to do with getting married? I am all for the former, but the latter is when you screw yourself. Don't get the two confused and think you have to combine them. You can most certainly do one without doing the other. Then again it could work out in your favor. I found myself thinking of all the friends and family members who I have known that have gotten married (more than one time for several people). Are they still together? For me, in most cases (including my own) they are not. Who is on the chopping block now? My 29 year old brother (10 years younger than me). You always think that the younger people will learn from the mistakes of the older people. The fact is though that everyone has to learn on their own. He ran off and got married to a psycho woman without telling anyone and now 3 years later he is about to lose his house and a car and who knows how much child support he will have to pay. Fortunately he works for himself so he can just about say he makes whatever he wants as far as the numbers are concerned. Also, my aunt who is 62 is about to get married for the third time.[/QUOTE]So what your saying is that your dysfunctional family / friend network with poor picking skills means I can do one or the other but not both?
I am not planning to return to the United States long term (bank crash is coming, oil shock is coming). This girl is interested in living just about ANYWHERE, has a mind for business (currently a self-employed graphic artist working as an art consultant for the Government) and is competitive (previous life as a professional show jumper). She's also 6'0 and we know how most men don't like tall women, they like small petite women they can dominate either mentally or physically or both (which is why Latin America and Asia are so popular on here). She has found it difficult to find the men she likes in Poland (Black Men) who have something going for themselves and not shorter than her.
I tick all her boxes.
Now with that said, there is risk of it turning pear shaped. Are you saying most men have become risk adverse? I am not, I have stated from day one what I want and frankly that is what most women want a man that knows what he wants and knows how to get it. As I said wanting to get married is not popular with a bunch of people that are either bitter from their own divorce or those that are risk adverse based on their parents divorce or relationships of others. I should tell you, a majority of my immediate family is married with children, while a majority of my friends are either never married (several) or divorced (one).
Why they haven't gotten married, I sort of know why and its not for the reasons often sited on this board. But while they sort themselves out, I'll move on to what I want. I am not interested in chasing women around the world for temporary relationships with no binding agreement. You can scream about all the legalities in the favor of women all you want and while the divorce rate is over 50, that means the other half is not getting a divorce.
It is easy for me to maintain a relationship anyway.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1245608]Forgive me for being naive, but how did that happen?[/QUOTE]His lawyer was incompetent, how else can you explain it? IMHO if you need a prenup that is a bad omen.
[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney;1246189]IMHO if you need a prenup that is a bad omen.[/QUOTE]Kobe Bryant probably thought the same thing and look at where it got him (see the article a page back or two). People change over time and a prenup is supposed to protect your assets in case your spouse later says "fuck till death do us part" and decides to hit the eject button.
These days you are a fool to not have a prenup (ask Katy Perry) before getting married. You are even more foolish if you allow a foreigner to jack you for all of your assets by marrying one without a prenup.
Jay-Z: "I got this African chick with Eddie Murphy on her skull, she like 'jigga man, why you treat me like animal? ' I'm like 'excuse me Ms. Fufu, but when I met your ass, you were dead broke and naked; and now you want half (of my shit). '"
[QUOTE=Ezinho; 1246129]Apparently, judges in America have the power to force a guy to take his wife on a date-as a punishment?
I wonder what the guy's side of the story is. His wife is probably an ugly whale and can't even give a decent BJ or cook a decent meal. I wouldn't marry an AW even if she was rich, beautiful, big-titted and paid me. And I'm an AM. Dated them when I was younger, though. I will only date foreign women because AWs have too many ridiculous needs and unrealistic expectations. Plus they are too fat.
[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1246198]Kobe Bryant probably thought the same thing and look at where it got him (see the article a page back or two). People change over time and a prenup is supposed to protect your assets in case your spouse later says "fuck till death do us part" and decides to hit the eject button.
These days you are a fool to not have a prenup (ask Katy Perry) before getting married. You are even more foolish if you allow a foreigner to jack you for all of your assets by marrying one without a prenup.
Jay-Z: "I got this African chick with Eddie Murphy on her skull, she like 'jigga man, why you treat me like animal? ' I'm like 'excuse me Ms. Fufu, but when I met your ass, you were dead broke and naked; and now you want half (of my shit). '"[/QUOTE]A prenup only helps if a guy has some shit to lose in the first place. If a guy doesn't have shit then he doesn't need a prenup. Marriage without a prenup is not a big deal for men without assets. Poor men actually benefit from marriage. Half of nothing leaves nothing.