American Women

With the topic of the statistics on who uses prostitutes, the percentage is higher in Brazil, Germany and Holland where it is legal and accepted even among married couples. They more openly admit that they visit brothels, RLD or escorts. In fact in these liberal countries, the wives even participate in threesomes. In America, guys want to HIDE the fact that they've used prostitutes because it is illegal and "shameful". Again, the concept of "shame" is to blame for such cover ups in American statistics. If I were maried, I would even cover up the fact that I travel for prostitutes because if I get caught, I could end a marriage because wives in America are much more conservative than they are in Europe or South America or Asia (except Japan). I could lose half of my wealth and income (depreciated from my weekly paycheck) or if she is pissed off enough, my penis.
Paddy, I'm glad to hear that you had a great time in Prague. I am going to Germany at the end of May. How far is the Pragues from Germany and how did you get past the language barrier?

Darkseid, do you have any specific references for your info on these differences? I've been looking for quite some time for stats on overall percentages and variations by country.

Paddy, I don't think your post on Prague is out of line.

Actually, I was making a comment on RN's statistics and supporting why it is true. I did come across some statistics on yahoo but did not take down the URLs for those sites. The stas for each of those pages vary to a little degree except for the US statistics which vary depending on various factors such as if the person travels, is married or single, etc.

Thanks, it's just tough to track down truly reliable information. For example, I found two studies from the mid-90s that said that 85% of Thai men regularly visited prostitutes, and another that claimed that in the face of AIDS education, the percentage of Thai men visiting prostitutes annually had fallen from 25% to 10%. (My guess, based on similar studies in Cambodia, is that the former are probably more accurate than the latter.) Similar contradictory stuff floats around for various countries, with it being perhaps the most useless for the US. So it's difficult to get a real handle on things -- as is typical in prostitution studies, there's a heavy focus on the women involved, but very little looking at the men.

Dick Johnson,

Thanks Dick. My message was addressed to Darkseid - not P&G. I thought that Darkseid might be interested in the apparent absence of racial attitudes that Czech women display toward Asian guys. He has often lamented about discrimination towards Asians by American women and I thought that I found a great and far superior alternative for him. That's all.

Again, thanks for your support. In deference to RN, this is the last I'm going to say about this issue.

Still Paddy, I think there should be a Section for discussing the hobby from a "minority" view. For example how would an Asain or Black guy do in this or that country. The script is often flipped.

[blue]i appreciate your position, but in my opinion, such a section would become a constant flame war.

Jackson[/blue]

This forum is all about great info and I get a lot of it here, including where the clubs are, when to go, the prices, and the quality of women. It is also important to see how they treat certain types of people, after all women treat each client differently from another based on their preferences. I get much better treatment in Brazil than the black guy for example because Brazilians love asians whereas in America, they give better sex to the black person and try to rush a session with an Asian guy like myself or a middle eastern guy. Experiences also ary based on such factors as age, hygiene, and body type, etc. A country can be a paradise for one type of person but the ladies will try to burn another type of guy.

Agreed Darksied. This is a great site, and IMO guys from all ethinicities are telling it like it is. But instead of having to needle through various posts looking for "minority" veiwpoint it might be better to keep it organized. There are a lot of "minorities" here.

Jackson, thanks for your response, I could see how a flame war might be a concern.... Still the topic would not be about who is the superior race, but instead which markets best appeal to certain ethnicities/races. Those who are overly sensitive or defensive don't need to be posting here anyway...

This site is all about providing truthful info, if we don't look at the hobby from all angles we may be sacrificing some of that validity.

First of all I must say to Jackson. Thank you. I know I read that you didn't create this site but you kept it going. I forget which. But I must say thank you because this site has really changed my life. And then I see that postings take longer now because of spammers. If that's what it takes to keep them out I'm all for it. Now to quit brown nosing and discuss the topic and hand. Ha ha.

I'm young, black and travel a lot. Have been to various places like Jamaica, Brazil and Argentina. And my take on the whole race issue is that in certain countries the women do have preferences, but it's nothing wrong with that. I have preferences. I think it must be remembered that America stated out segregated by the people that came here. The motto was kill off the Indians and enslave the blacks. In a way that was their way of self preservation. Down the years that mentality stayed. It's in books all documented. That's why America is the way it is. But to Darkseid I do feel you. I work in a customer service industry and do see that Asians are kind of talked down to by our customers and even I don't understand it. I've had customers clown on me too but I notice that it happens more to Asians.

I still think that Afro-Americans still get treated like shit in some ways but the point now is that black people are more American than African now. I've met black people who are more Uncle Tom than white people, now figure that one out.

My motto though is F*ck America for sex, period!!! You can have all the women here. I don't want them. I'm here for the money, education, and jobs and that's it. That's all the country is good for now. If you want good sex and just to have a good time in general you've got to leave the U.S. I know it sounds weird but it's the unfortunate truth. Peace.

Guys,

I guess that I agree with and see both sides of this issue.

On the one hand, a thread dealing with racial issues that would consolidate these topics seems reasonable. Such issues are a fact of life and are certainly relevant to many of the guys on this forum.

On the other hand, I guess that I'm also compelled to agree with Jackson in that such a thread could result in a flame war and some real nasty and mean spirited point-counterpoint discussion. I think that any minimally perceptive guy who is working in American society has to agree that racism is alive and well in America. As one of the older guys on this forum, I thought that stuff like that would dissipate over the decades but it's still here and maybe always will be. The only difference now is that people tend to be more discreet and less overt about their racial remarks and comments. There is also the possibility that some wacko outsider could register and start all kinds of problems

I think that Jackson has done a great, great job and that we should ultimately trust in his wisdom. Just some random thoughts.

I agree, Phil, the US is a horrible place for sex. Having a good time here is illegal and because of that this is not a free environment to me. It is free to all prudes to take away the fun that adults seek by closing down strip joints and other sex places they complain about to their neighborhood police. In fact I have a single immigrant friend from Haiti who was busted on marijuana use and busted a different time for going to an underground sex club. In Haiti, if you get caught, you can bribe the cop who caught you and he'll go away, but he tried this in New York and served a 3 month community service sentence and lost his job because of it. He was busted almost a year later going to a strip club where the VIP room offers BBBJ and sex when a nosy person called the police because they were playing loud music and scantily dressed women were entering the club. I bet the nosy neighbor was "worried about the kids". My immigrant friend cursed the day he came to America but he stayed because he was broke in Haiti so he decided to make money in America and then leave the country when he saves enough to be rich in Haiti. He and I both agreed that the US is a very restrictive country but it is a great place to become rich. He compares it to a gold mine in which you must work hard and suffer so that you can get gold and become rich once you get out of the mine. You can enjoy your wealth after all the hard work and time you put into mining, but the mine itself is not a fun place to be. In fact it is dangerous because the US has the highest crime rate on the planet, much higher than Brazil. In fact when my friends ask me if Brazil is dangerous, I tell them that Brazil is like a child's playground compared to NYC.

[i]In fact it is dangerous because the US has the highest crime rate on the planet[/i]

This is something that gets thrown around a lot, but it's not actually true. According to the United Nations Survey on Crime Trends, there are a number of countries -- Chile, Denmark, England, Finland, New Zealand -- with higher rates of reported crime, and Canada, Germany and the Netherlands, among others, are within shouting distance of US rates. These are also for the most part, like the US, places where there are viable police structures, so it's very probable that the rate of reporting crimes is higher than in other countries with less reliable police, so rates there are probably under-estimated, especially in those countries where, as you describe, the police can be bribed out of doing anything about it.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by joe_zop
[i][i]In fact it is dangerous because the US has the highest crime rate on the planet[/i]

What it [i]does[/i] have is the highest [b]incarceration[/b] rate on the planet.

Agreed -- despite the fact that Australia, for example, brings people into court at almost twice the rate per 100,000 people as the US, it incarcerates at less than one-sixth the rate. In general, though, both US prosecution and conviction rates are higher than most places, and people are more likely to be sentenced to jail.