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Dj4,
I agree with concern over the conservative fundamentalists. I don't begrudge them the right to live as they choose, but I don't like their effect on other people's lives, or on policy. If they want to suck people into their reality, they'd better offer compelling reasons to follow their doctrines and ways of life.
The Republicans party has done an incredible disservice to any concept of conservatism the past 40 years. I refuse to use the term Rebublican and conservative in conjunction. The biggest, most wasteful spenders are the Republicans, not the Democrats. That I'll agree with any day of the week.
At the same time, I have an axe to grind with most liberals as well. Remember, the Republicans will court the illegal immigrants and feminists, but the radical Left will outright empower them. The Left will kick the male breadwinner out of his own house, then encourage sueing him for continued support of a household he's no longer a member, take away his kids, possibly jail him if he says anything to the contrary, jail him if he can't keep up with his support payments and legal bills (even if they're unrealistic), and give the female run of the land, presumption of legal proof to anything and everything she says or claims. Lovely.
Liberals love losers. They know their votes count just as well as anybody else's.
Liberals really court feminism. And I have no issue at all with the egalitarian principles of feminism when it comes to the workplace. But look at the legacy of feminism and what it has done to sustained, adult relationships in this country. Its utter bullshit. Abortion on Demand. Divorce on Demand. Its a whole platform of women do whatever they want, act upon any impulse they may have, and then use whatever means necessary to reverse what they have done, and bury it in propaganda which falsely excuses such behavior as "female empowerment. " A very reactive movement that hides behind well-crafted propaganda and plays on the Achilles heel of the masculine impulse to protect women, and warps that beyond all belief. Honestly, if there were not that amazingly powerful sexual power that forms our very being at play in male/female dynamics, women would be at an incredible disadvantage in our society, instead of now where they're at--which is they are the majority of the population by gender, and also, when all the smoke clears, actually control 60%+ of the wealth of this country. Hardly a minority, hardly a disadvantaged class by gender. Yet the bullshit continues.
But I ranted a little too much on the Liberal front. Really, both sides are rotten nowadays, in their own unique ways. Way I see it, Republicans are the biggest wasters, continuing to spend us into oblivion, continued monies into the MIC when the military challenges we primarily face nowadays have moved far away from conventional warfare. And these conservatives hide behind their ideologies when it comes to reforming our social systems, which are a real necessity in a post-agrarian economy such as ours.
And Liberals? They keep loving on their own special interests. Where's our universal health care? Nope--instead, we have disproportionate socialized health care for some, and others left out in the cold because they don't fit the Left's definition of misery needed to qualify. Instead of one primary organizational structure efficiently overseeing health care for all, we have numerous bureaucracies all managing their own little fiefdoms in god-awful, inefficient ways, often in contradiction with one another.
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[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney] The key is our education system; it needs to be rebuilt ... [/QUOTE]
You hit the nail SQUARELY on the head with that one, DJ!!!!
I used to work in education. Budget deficits and for-profit schools are dragging down standards. Everyone wants to provide education on the cheap. It can't be done if you are serious about educating and training a world class labor force and making an intelligent electorate. On the other side of the coin, students and their parents want ALL "A" grades in ALL their coures. That is a pipe dream. For grades to have any meaningful sense some students have to get B's and others C's, D's and F's. Otherwise it is just a fancy pass/fail system, where if you pass you get "A" and if you fail yoiu get some other lower grade.
The educational system for the majority of Americans is already done the tubes, through the looking glass, and into Wonderland. The ultra wealthy elite are taught in private schools where the debates about replacing evolution with "intelligent design" as the foundation of biology are rightly considered nonsense.
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What does America going downhill have to do with American Women? For one, the increasingly shitty exchange rates are making it harder to travel or move overseas, some people who have pensions are getting screwed over because their money is becoming worth a lot less. A lot of countries in Eastern Europe, my favorite place to monger, are eventually going to use the Euro, I heard a few analysts saying that 1EUR=3-4US Dollars over the next ten years. The Dollar is also falling against a heap of other currencies like the Yen, Brazilian Real(another pussy paradise), etc. Another reason why its easy to hook up with foreign women is because of the perception of Americans, which is frankly going rapidly downhill. I have noticed a big difference in how people react to Americans in past years and I live overseas. I live in Australia, when I came to the country in 2000, the perception of Americans was very favorable, I saw that it gradually went downhill, a few Australian women I met told me they went to the USA recently and had a horrible experience, did not find it to be fun at all, a few years before I would never hear those kinds of remarks. I even asked a German woman what most people there thought of Americans and it has went downhill there, they are also getting very cocky because the Euro is trashing the Dollar left and right.
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An interesting book review on marriage in America
[url]http://www.claremont.org/publications/crb/id.1511/article_detail.asp[/url]
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Wow, what a steaming load of horseshit.
Studies in fact show that kids do NOT need their biological parents as much as they need adult attention and guidance, PERIOD.
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The one question that is nagging me all night is....If America is the most powerfull nation on earth..or it was or it still is and if it is the land of the brave and of unlimited oppourtunity. The best and the most prosperous country ever
Then what i fail to understand and i think all of Phds and scientist combined will never be able to answer is ..Why haven't America produced a greater force to mankind like Jesus Christ, Buddha or Mother Terasa like figure in all of its glory.
The nation poorer and worse than America..have produced gems whom the whole world revere..
All right America have gates, jorden, micheal et all..still..people won't remember any great american 100 years from now...the force of Jesus and budha are still alive 1000's of years.
Im not anti-american, but these lofty talk by politicain etc in every speach is dragging away from the real cause of problems in America
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America is all about profits....not prophets.
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American woman have shot themselves in the with this feminist movement crap and it is all about me.
The vast majority of American women are depressed, over weight, looking to find a supporter.
Just the other day coming out of the movies i heard a women yell half way across the parking lot that she was going to kick some guy's ass! She runs across the parking lot and gets into this guy's face and screams at him again that she was going to kick his ass and of course being the pussy's that American men have turn into he did nothing.
Now i am not activating hitting women by any stretch of the imagination and quite frankly it does not take much of a man to do so HOWEVER if you want to act like a man then i will treat you as one.
American women act the way they do because we as men( and social forces) have allowed women to just go off the deep end.
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Hello, Ezinho here currently reporting from South America.
Just out of curiosity, since this is the American Women thread, has anyone here actually had sex with an AW recently? Or even just gone out on a date with one? I'm coming back to Sex Prison soon and I'd be interested to hear about any stories anyone has regarding dating or banging AWs. I wonder if I've missed out on anything.
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[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]Then what i fail to understand and i think all of Phds and scientist combined will never be able to answer is ..Why haven't America produced a greater force to mankind like Jesus Christ, Buddha or Mother Terasa like figure in all of its glory.[/QUOTE]
In belated honour of Black History Month, which just ended last week, I nominate the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. as an example of a non-materialistic force for humankind that the USA has produced.
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The Upcoming Recession
Economic reports on housing foreclosures suggest that women are getting disproportionately hurt by this housing crisis.
Does anyone think their attitudes will change? That AWs will start to look at men as full partners who are essential to a healthy household and give up the "I don't need a man." (cause fish don't need bicycles) attitude?
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Okay, I'll go along with that. I second the nomination.
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[QUOTE=Roguesta]America is all about profits....not prophets.[/QUOTE]
This is the Gilded Age all over again...
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America has been all about making money $$$$ and worldly accomplishment, not making a new Christ, although religion is a powerful force in the USA. Consider the election, Obama lost some votes because people did not think he was Christian, then again Barack Hussein Obama doesn't sound very Christian.
Still lets face it, the Euro is smacking the US Dollar around, people now use the phrase the "Humble Dollar" and Might Euro these days.
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Bang Cheito,
Agree, what children really need is adults who are actively involved in their lives and are invested in guiding them into adulthood. 100% agreed.
Does it have to be their biological parents? Not necessarily.
I know you mean well with you comment, but for the masses of people, let me ask you this--who do you think is most willing to take care of and raise these children? Think about it--what would you have to pay adults to raise children with the same level of care for 18 years? In addition, the state would have to pay for the child's needs, instead of the parents doing so with after-tax dollars. To get a child from cradle to high school graduation, you'd be looking at six-figures to accomplish the same thing millions of loving parents accomplish.
Yup. Their biological parents are the first choice. Now certainly not always, we all know the horror stories. I won't discount that. But in social policy, nothing is fullproof. In large majority, though, the kids are better off with an involved mommy and daddy, and extended biological family.
The whole "biological parents is unnecessary to raising children" is often used by the feminist regime to discount keeping daddy in the picture. Of course, they used to believe that alimony was unnecessary, until they figured out the State had no means to make up the difference for losing one parent's income. So, in cases where the woman has learned she is the victim and entitled, they'll take daddy's money, but frame the rearing of the children squarely around the mother, all other things considered.
I certainly don't discount that women have a much higher personal investment in each side. An individual man could conceivably have thousands of children. Obviously, this is a fact of nature.
But a lot of guys marry with good intentions of raising a family. And something is wrong when these guys are exposed to much more damage when a divorce occurs. In my opinion, if you think about it, an unmarried woman would be more entitled to sue the man who impregnated her than suing her husband, in general cases. The husband has committed to the woman, and provided emotional and financial support. Why disproportionately punish him if things fall apart? If he just knocked her up and that was it, he'd only be up for child support payments. There are just real major, fundamental problems with feminist policy. Its reactive and cancerous to the common good.
Hymowitz is a hypocritical idiot. Read my earlier back-to-back comparison of articles that show she has separate agendas for single young females versus single young men.
BG, my point is, we should encourage biological parents to take care of their own children. The State has no scope or realistic means to supplement the loss of a good biological parent. Yes, children can be raised by others, and that is all part of the feminist "it takes a village to raise a child, " but let's not kid ourselves. State-sponsored programs to assist in rearing children SUCK in comparison to a good family environment.