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Sage Advice
[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney; 1132160]I didn't think we were talking about American Women directly. However as I said, Men only let Women get away with stuff because of the power of pussy. But its actually a shortage of attractive, intelligent, available women.
That's the problem.
Money? I don't know had 60K and burned it up on a trip to Europe and the car and various other things. Lost the car, lost both jobs, don't have shhh, don't to my last $26 from my meager tax return. More money would just make me do more foolish stuff with it, which is fine, I don't hurt anybody, but as I have said before randomly fucking women for money is not a replacement for a loving relationship and children.
As I have said before, you are anti-Car, anti-Marriage and anti-Children, so in turn I don't think you can give me any sage advice is going to be extremely biased in those directions. [/QUOTE]Did you ever think that maybe marriage and reproduction is not for you? You pissed away 60K, lost your car and lost both your jobs. What would you do if you had a woman and some kids to support? Hot white and Latina women are not going to stick with a man with no money. Women marry because they want better not worse. An older guy with no money is not going be chosen by hot girls for marriage or reproduction in any part of the world. It's just not going to happen. Forget about it. At 40 yrs of age and broke you hardly have enough time to earn enough money to avoid a retirement on a cat food diet much less breed a woman 10 to 15 years your junior and support a family. Middle-aged guys have a tough time in the new global economy unless they have decades of experience in a highly specialized field that is difficult to staff. DD gave you some advice that you should probably consider. Perhaps, it is time to accept your lot in life. Stop running from your destiny like in The Adjustment Bureau. Everyone is not entitled to hot young pussy and a family.
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[QUOTE=DirkDingy;1132162]If AW think you are a catch they will "find" the time for you.[/QUOTE]I think there is still a problem.
Even though it is like this, lets say I got an AW interested in me like I'm a "catch", don't you think it should be the other way around?
If I think she is a good one and if I want to, I could find time for her. I want to be able chose among a bunch of women, I do not want women (AW) to chose me among a bunch of competing guys.
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DJ you have to realize, the way the car is used in the USA counts for much of the cultural problems, not to mention people's sorry-ass physical state. It's not that easy to separate them.
I really think in the US it's more about money. In other parts of the world being good-looking counts for more. But who knows. I plan on going back to NYC good-looking (and broke) in June for a few weeks, let's see what pops.
Some friend of mine in NYC somebody wanted to insult her they called her a "groupie to a broke music manager". Note the "broke" in the statement. The implication is a man with money DESERVES NO PUSSY. I was kinda shocked by it, now that I no longer live in that culture, it was like a slap in the face to me. But that's the reality of the culture.
Here in Colombia it's the reverse of what you might expect. I will tell you know that I'm going on 3 years here, I have it absolutely statiscially proven, the richer girls here are more after money, with most of the girls from the poorer neighborhoods. They will NOT give it up for you unless you are physically very easy on the eyes, this is the most aesthetically oriented place you can imagine. There are exceptions but they are few and far between.
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Tough Love
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1132380]Did you ever think that maybe marriage and reproduction is not for you? Perhaps, it is time to accept your lot in life. Stop running from your destiny like in The Adjustment Bureau. Everyone is not entitled to hot young pussy and a family.[/QUOTE]So true. To be honest I wouldn't be able to deal with all the BS some guys go through with relationships and marriage. I think that is totally obvious to women. On the other hand I wouldn't want to be classified as a guy who can deal with all the BS. That doesn't appeal to me either. I disliked it when women in my past were trying to size me up and figure out what their limits / potential was. It's just plain gross and not my way of living.
No need to accept defeat or look at yourself as a loser. Not true. I know many men in my family environment that have been winners in life from society's perspective but in reality they LOST OUT big time when you look at the big picture.
The only crime is the hoops we need to go through to get a piece if it doesn't come naturally and the harsh reality of our puritan culture. Not to mention global economy woes gay sex STDs social stigma etc. No wonder everybody wants a winner in the dating game. You can gain a lot of security and relief of stress by finding the right mate.
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[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1132380]Did you ever think that maybe marriage and reproduction is not for you? You pissed away 60K, lost your car and lost both your jobs. What would you do if you had a woman and some kids to support? Hot white and Latina women are not going to stick with a man with no money. Women marry because they want better not worse. An older guy with no money is not going be chosen by hot girls for marriage or reproduction in any part of the world. It's just not going to happen. Forget about it. At 40 yrs of age and broke you hardly have enough time to earn enough money to avoid a retirement on a cat food diet much less breed a woman 10 to 15 years your junior and support a family. Middle-aged guys have a tough time in the new global economy unless they have decades of experience in a highly specialized field that is difficult to staff. DD gave you some advice that you should probably consider. Perhaps, it is time to accept your lot in life. Stop running from your destiny like in The Adjustment Bureau. Everyone is not entitled to hot young pussy and a family.[/QUOTE]I spend 60K cause I wanted too, I could and I did, no regrets. If I had a family to support I would have 90% of that money still, that's the difference.
I didn't say I was entitled to anything. I made a career change in time for retirement which is basically not a concern at the moment, if I have to live off SS and it will be here so be it but I seriously doubt it.
Misery loves company, if you're not happy, why allow somebody else? That's your problem, you hated your life in NYC, you left it for 2nd tier economy in Colombia. For you that might be okay, but you still didn't address my issues with you handing out advice. Would I ask you what car to buy if I already knew you thought cars were pointless vessels keeping people from connecting with each other? No, just like I wouldn't ask you about Marriage (you're divorced) or children (you don't have any and could care less about them).
I am not some old guy, you have no idea what I look like, I constantly pass for mid 20's, I am not overweight, nor ugly. If I listen to you, I would think I have no chance at all, but I don't think that is the case. I could have chosen a woman that at the time was 6 years younger with two sons and was willing to have a third because she wanted (like most women do) a daughter. I didn't want to be an instant father, that's my choice.
There was a 42 yr old woman that was childless and wanted to have children. Well, I'm not ready, even if I had it to fork over a few thou for IVF because its much harder to have your first child at that point, than it would have been 15-16 years ago. Plus she hung onto her last relationship too long.
So here in America, my effective age range is mid to late 30's. That's not based on looks, its based on a number, my age. Woman 25-28 are still focused on career options and generally not interested. I also believe the US is much more of a crap shoot and too much of a compromise. I chatted up a girl on the bus about. 4-5 months ago, still don't know why I didn't get her information, but a very attractive Latina, I doubt she was much more than 22-23.
A friend of mine recently (about a year ago) married a woman from Ukraine. He's Black. 38 and she's obviously White and 26. They are expecting their first child as well. He makes decent money, nothing specular and it took him 3 separate tours to find her. I am just hoping it doesn't take 3 trips.
So I know it can be done. As long as I keep my expectations in-check I'll be fine. Finding an attractive Slavic girl is a given, what you want to know is what is inside their head.
I don't have to accept anything and I don't have a destiny.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1132466]So true. To be honest I wouldn't be able to deal with all the BS some guys go through with relationships and marriage. I think that is totally obvious to women. On the other hand I wouldn't want to be classified as a guy who can deal with all the BS. That doesn't appeal to me either. I disliked it when women in my past were trying to size me up and figure out what their limits / potential was. It's just plain gross and not my way of living.
No need to accept defeat or look at yourself as a loser. Not true. I know many men in my family environment that have been winners in life from society's perspective but in reality they LOST OUT big time when you look at the big picture.
The only crime is the hoops we need to go through to get a piece if it doesn't come naturally and the harsh reality of our puritan culture. Not to mention global economy woes gay sex STDs social stigma etc. No wonder everybody wants a winner in the dating game. You can gain a lot of security and relief of stress by finding the right mate. [/QUOTE]100, I don't like drama. But American Women like drama, even when they say they don't. I've ended every relationship but one. That was based on internet communications though and could happen to anybody, not just me.
My lack of success is based more on me and what I won't accept. At times I have accepted single mothers and fat women. It was just a focus of mine until later in life. Sure I like companionship like any human being does, I found my interest keep me plenty busy though. I've lost a few chances here and there. I have accepted those loses, learned and moved on.
Being married does not have to mean accepting things you don't like, on the contrary it means accepting another person's faults. If those faults don't really concern you, then everything will be fine. If 50-70% of marriages fail, that still means 30-50% don't fail. So its really a half empty or half full scenario.
However K-1 marriages based on what information is available have a 20% failure rate. It could be higher, it could be lower, nobody is really keeping track of this, its gleaned from Labor and State Dept data.
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[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1132452]DJ you have to realize, the way the car is used in the USA counts for much of the cultural problems, not to mention people's sorry-ass physical state. It's not that easy to separate them.
I really think in the US it's more about money. In other parts of the world being good-looking counts for more. But who knows. I plan on going back to NYC good-looking (and broke) in June for a few weeks, let's see what pops.
Some friend of mine in NYC somebody wanted to insult her they called her a "groupie to a broke music manager". Note the "broke" in the statement. The implication is a man with money DESERVES NO PUSSY. I was kinda shocked by it, now that I no longer live in that culture, it was like a slap in the face to me. But that's the reality of the culture.
Here in Colombia it's the reverse of what you might expect. I will tell you know that I'm going on 3 years here, I have it absolutely statiscially proven, the richer girls here are more after money, with most of the girls from the poorer neighborhoods. They will NOT give it up for you unless you are physically very easy on the eyes, this is the most aesthetically oriented place you can imagine. There are exceptions but they are few and far between. [/QUOTE]Sure I understand how its used in cultural terms, its used as measure to size up several things from economics, social and cultural norms. If you own a lowered sport compact that can be deemed as a guy that lacks maturity. If you own a BMW, it could me you have attained a level of success, depending on model. But the 3 series is often regarded as the car to have for mid-level management or up-and-coming white collar workers.
So yes I know how it works, but I like mechanical things, especially cars and I enjoy racing, not only myself but watching it, attending events, whatever. As I said you likely don't understand so I can't really explain it in terms you might understand it in and its largely foreign to most NYC dwellers as well.
CM you view your sex life from a position of a formerly overweight person, as you have often mention needing to loose weight. Then you transpose it on top of my live, I don't think that's fair. I like White Women and not every White Girl is "Down For The Brown", so that limits my pool and selection. It still hasn't been proven to me that Latinas especially from South America like Black Men beyond the P4P market and that's a bit hard to tell on this forum. That is why I need to investigate South America, in Europe I already know where to be Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Germany. I do know some Slavic women like Black and not the type of women that DD has been running into which I assume is the model type. I've been contacted by several Slavic women on various sites but I haven't returned those messages because of my financial problems at the moment. So I know its possible to find somebody.
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[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney; 1132523]Sure I understand how its used in cultural terms, its used as measure to size up several things from economics, social and cultural norms. If you own a lowered sport compact that can be deemed as a guy that lacks maturity. If you own a BMW, it could me you have attained a level of success, depending on model. But the 3 series is often regarded as the car to have for mid-level management or up-and-coming white collar workers.
So yes I know how it works, but I like mechanical things, especially cars and I enjoy racing, not only myself but watching it, attending events, whatever. As I said you likely don't understand so I can't really explain it in terms you might understand it in and its largely foreign to most NYC dwellers as well.
CM you view your sex life from a position of a formerly overweight person, as you have often mention needing to loose weight. Then you transpose it on top of my live, I don't think that's fair. I like White Women and not every White Girl is "Down For The Brown", so that limits my pool and selection. It still hasn't been proven to me that Latinas especially from South America like Black Men beyond the P4P market and that's a bit hard to tell on this forum. That is why I need to investigate South America, in Europe I already know where to be Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Germany. I do know some Slavic women like Black and not the type of women that DD has been running into which I assume is the model type. I've been contacted by several Slavic women on various sites but I haven't returned those messages because of my financial problems at the moment. So I know its possible to find somebody. [/QUOTE]DJ,
I think you're mixing up Bango and I, probably because I did not post for almost a year. Anyway, that's not important. You do realize that you're on a monger forum when you're seeking a wife? The advice and information here is primarily oriented to finding women and fucking them at the lowest financial risk to men. Therefore you will find that it is "anti-marriage." There ain't no love in this shit. If you seriously want a wife you should participate in a forum of like minded men. Sex tourism and wife hunting do not mix. Don't be a sex tourist or associate with them if you're seeking to commit to one woman.
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[QUOTE=Chocha Monger; 1132590]DJ,
I think you're mixing up Bango and I, probably because I did not post for almost a year. Anyway, that's not important. You do realize that you're on a monger forum when you're seeking a wife? The advice and information here is primarily oriented to finding women and fucking them at the lowest financial risk to men. Therefore you will find that it is "anti-marriage." There ain't no love in this shit. If you seriously want a wife you should participate in a forum of like minded men. Sex tourism and wife hunting do not mix. Don't be a sex tourist or associate with them if you're seeking to commit to one woman. [/QUOTE]Bingo you hit it on the nail CM!
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[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney; 1131674]I choose IT because its one of the few careers that don't require a college degree and requires English in many cases. I was already well versed in computers so it just made sense and for my meager investment of $70 at a local occupational center I will get enough information to pass not only the CompTIA A+ but the Network + as well in 9 weeks! The class across the street (Jr College) takes an entire semester and you'll only get enough info for A+. My instructor had run his own computer business since the 5. 25 floppy days.
I am on the right track, I just need some experience and I can gain that at home while I work locally and search for my bride online and make trips abroad as needed. By the time I have 2-3 years of experience I can start applying for jobs with the UN in Geneva, NATO in Brussels or with international companies like DHL who currently has opening in IT as I write this, as well as the two places I just mentioned, don't believe me? Have a look at their job boards. [/QUOTE]I'd hate to burst your bubble. But now more than ever. A degree is necessary for any IT position. Sure there are people who work from experience alone. Just like there are HS players who make the NBA. Thats about the chances you have of finding an IT without REAL job experience and no degree. Not some part time fixing the neighbors computers. Or I networked the churches system down the street crap. Every HS kid is doing that these days.
For Multi National companies you will be up against all those individuals who have been layoff because of outsourcing. With Degree's and certifications. Because its cheaper to outsource and. And most companies that don't outsource. Import H1B's from India and soon China.
So you have big time competition. And thats not even mentioning those top college grads who like you. Also did part time work. . But also got a degree.
Very few companies hire non specialist who need no type of supervision or guidance and send them overseas to work.
I'm not saying don't try. I'm just saying be realistic in your projections. Yeah you might get a job in the IT field. Which would be hard enough. But to realistically think your 1st full time job would send you overseas. Is very optimistic.
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[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney; 1132523]Sure I understand how its used in cultural terms, its used as measure to size up several things from economics, social and cultural norms. If you own a lowered sport compact that can be deemed as a guy that lacks maturity. If you own a BMW, it could me you have attained a level of success, depending on model. But the 3 series is often regarded as the car to have for mid-level management or up-and-coming white collar workers.
So yes I know how it works, but I like mechanical things, especially cars and I enjoy racing, not only myself but watching it, attending events, whatever. As I said you likely don't understand so I can't really explain it in terms you might understand it in and its largely foreign to most NYC dwellers as well.
CM you view your sex life from a position of a formerly overweight person, as you have often mention needing to loose weight. Then you transpose it on top of my live, I don't think that's fair. I like White Women and not every White Girl is "Down For The Brown", so that limits my pool and selection. It still hasn't been proven to me that Latinas especially from South America like Black Men beyond the P4P market and that's a bit hard to tell on this forum. That is why I need to investigate South America, in Europe I already know where to be Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Germany. I do know some Slavic women like Black and not the type of women that DD has been running into which I assume is the model type. I've been contacted by several Slavic women on various sites but I haven't returned those messages because of my financial problems at the moment. So I know its possible to find somebody. [/QUOTE]The problem I have with the car is that it keeps people aparte and breeds isolation and alienation.
And no, I would say on the average that South American women STRONGLY do not prefer black men, sorry to say. Maybe in Brazil it would be the only place that would be the exception to that.
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[QUOTE=Capt Ajax;1132614]Bingo you hit it on the nail CM![/QUOTE]While your doing hand stands, I dabble in P4P. I did so in Germany with the help of this web site, I do so when I can afford it down in Mexico due to this web site.
Being single does not mean begging other single women for it by taking them out and expecting them to put out by the 3rd date.
Instead of dealing with that, I go the P4P route because what I ultimately want is sex, so I BELONG HERE just as much as you do.
In the end however, I have my "defenders" on this site and I'm not the only one. The LTR forum doesn't get much traffic but it does get used.
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[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1132779]The problem I have with the car is that it keeps people aparte and breeds isolation and alienation.
And no, I would say on the average that South American women STRONGLY do not prefer black men, sorry to say. Maybe in Brazil it would be the only place that would be the exception to that. [/QUOTE]I guess that would be appliance users you're talking about. I react with many people on the road. Usually people that own the same car I did, since only 30, 000 were built from 2003 to 2005. I connect with other "car guys" at weekly events like "Cars and Coffee" or another spot where normal types like me get to bump elbows and trade stories with guys that are successful and like to show it off it bit by buying exotic Italian sports cars.
Buses are awful silent as well, I've been taking the bus on a regular basis since the last time I drove my Protetge 5 on June 25, 2009. In fact so is the Red Line (subway) , not much is being said and people keep to themselves so its not just cars are to blame.
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[QUOTE=Chocha Monger; 1132590]DJ,
I think you're mixing up Bango and I, probably because I did not post for almost a year. Anyway, that's not important. You do realize that you're on a monger forum when you're seeking a wife? The advice and information here is primarily oriented to finding women and fucking them at the lowest financial risk to men. Therefore you will find that it is "anti-marriage." There ain't no love in this shit. If you seriously want a wife you should participate in a forum of like minded men. Sex tourism and wife hunting do not mix. Don't be a sex tourist or associate with them if you're seeking to commit to one woman. [/QUOTE]As you said it might be Bango, but LTR is of interest to me and to others that use and view this thread. There other websites like Relationshit and No Marriage and I belong to those because I understand that Men in America are under fire.
But I have every right to be here. I don't expect either of you to have answers most of you come from failed relationships to start with and getting only your side of the story. I give you the benefit of the doubt because I understand how AW can be.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1132734]I'd hate to burst your bubble. But now more than ever. A degree is necessary for any IT position. Sure there are people who work from experience alone. Just like there are HS players who make the NBA. Thats about the chances you have of finding an IT without REAL job experience and no degree. Not some part time fixing the neighbors computers. Or I networked the churches system down the street crap. Every HS kid is doing that these days.
For Multi National companies you will be up against all those individuals who have been layoff because of outsourcing. With Degree's and certifications. Because its cheaper to outsource and. And most companies that don't outsource. Import H1B's from India and soon China.
So you have big time competition. And thats not even mentioning those top college grads who like you. Also did part time work. . But also got a degree.
Very few companies hire non specialist who need no type of supervision or guidance and send them overseas to work.
I'm not saying don't try. I'm just saying be realistic in your projections. Yeah you might get a job in the IT field. Which would be hard enough. But to realistically think your 1st full time job would send you overseas. Is very optimistic. [/QUOTE]WRONG.
Several Students out my instructors class have gotten jobs with Citibank, Dell and HP / Compaq right out of school they come into the class to recruit. There are several jobs I have found on Dice. Com that strictly list "A+ is preferred". To gain "experience" I have already considered donating my talent and time to a non-profit.
Did I say somewhere my first IT job would be overseas? Stop putting words into my mouth or get your reading glasses out and read my post again. I never said straight out of school I would get a IT job in Europe or anywhere for that matter. However stranger things have happen and like I said my instructor is a savvy guy.
Also you make it sound as though IT is crowded, its not its still considered "Geek" work and "uncool". Not every dude is going to be the founders of Google or the founder (s) of Facebook, My Space, etc. Women like them and Bill Gates because they have money.
DD is saying Money Solves everything, when I come from a perspective that says "More Money, More Problems"
Back to your rant about Americans not being hired in the EU. Just to let you know I have seen the same handful of jobs open for DHL in the Czech Republic for almost a year. Seeking NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKERS, which would cover all the Anglo-Saxon countries and I come from one. The United States.
Those jobs are still open, I wonder why Brits aren't beating a path to Prague?
I would develop some experience locally I never said I would go fresh out of school and apply for jobs overseas, but just because I have blocked you and you seem to chase me around this thread, I might look into it in-spite of you.
Going into A+, I already know 70% and have built my own PC's before including the HTPC I use every single day. But why would I go into a $240 test unprepared, so I'm taking this class for $70 and get a discount on both 701 and 702 test. All 50 of his students from the previous 9 weeks all have A+ CompTIA certificates. 8 of them have Network + without having to take an additional class.
Don't underestimate me, for $70 I'm getting enough info for not only A+, but Network +, MS Help Desk and Security +, which the instructor just took and passed himself.
He produces quality students and companies know that. It seems people like you are butt hurt that you spent thousands of dollars on degrees when people taking classes at Trade School can get those same jobs. Sorry but almost every Kid in his Saturday class is a "Gamer", talk constantly about Call of Duty 4 and Diablo 2, they aren't setting up networks for the local Church cause they don't know how and they ignore the instructor. My homie lays cable for networks and he didn't go to college either. Going to university doesn't mean you're best prepared for a job. Seems to me people that didn't go to college are considered loose cannons by some companies and harder to control, which is likely why they might pick the in-debt college student over the trade school graduate.