LMAO! That response was priceless!!! :)
Beautiful and articulate she may be... classy, she ain't.
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LMAO! That response was priceless!!! :)
Beautiful and articulate she may be... classy, she ain't.
For all the 'liberated' we are supposed to be in America, unfortauntely this mentality still predominates. Everybody is looking for the easy way out :P
[QUOTE=Rubber Nursey]LMAO! That response was priceless!!! :)
Beautiful and articulate she may be... classy, she ain't.[/QUOTE]
agree what an answer! made me laugh, yet from a technical point of view, the answer was so perfect.
[QUOTE=Dickhead]I had mine at 24 and it was hard to find a doctor who would do it.[/QUOTE]
. . . and I think we all can agree, the world is a safer place due to this fine medical professional!
HaHa, Chears, -P
Congratulations on your posts. Both made me laugh till I fell off my chair with tears running down my face.
CM Your dinner sounds like you picked the woman from hell. Even if it wasn't a date she was checking you out for prospective fatherhood and fat pay check.
Dickhead. Its hard to believe that women like this haven't found being a hooker a viable occupation. She can make a good income and not have to worry about settling down with some man. I wonder if she has ever considered being a groupie to a rap singer. The reply is hillarious and so totally accurate its scary.
Thanks for putting a smile on my dial that was sorely needed on a Monday morning.
CM,
Had a similar experience several years ago. In this case, however, the American woman I was having dinner with was actually in pretty good shape and quite attractive. I was "interrogated" just like you. When I did not express any definitve interest in her she began to ask indirectly if I was "gay." Huh??? Actually, she was rather skillful and discreet in her line of questioning about my being "gay" and why I was not kneeling before her feminine charms. She seemed to be genuinely miffed.
When I told her that I only date foreign women and particularly women from Eastern Europe, she went ballistic and made quite a scene at the restaurant. She was loud, finger pointing, etc. It was quite a show and when I smiled at her she became even more enraged. Everyone in the restaurant was staring at me. Hey, she asked and I told her.
My primary conclusion was that AW don't want Tatiana, Svetlana or Isabella threatening the sweet deal that they have going here in the states. BTW, at the conclusion of this tortureous dinner she refused to contribute anything toward the bill (which was OK with me) despite the fact that she initiated dinner.
[url]http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1900628&page=1[/url]
This was an article about a man who jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge and survived. The most sad thing was that as he was about to jump off the bridge in attempt to end his life, a woman asked him if he could take a photo of her, what a b*tich.
There was a shooting in Wisconsin involving a cop and some women at some kind of social function. Frankly I am not surprised, because American society is driving males off the edge. Even that VA Tech shooting seemed to suggest AWs probably pushed that student off the edge. Also that one in Pennsylvania also suggest something, he let all the males in a school go free but shot all the females.
In the New York Times today, there was an article about a woman who was sentenced to 5 years in prison for injuring her 1 month old infant daughter by smashing her head. How did she do that, you may ask????
Her husband had gone out drinking with his buddies without her permission. When he got home she pick up the child by the feet and SWUNG her at him. The child's head hit a wall and resulted in a concussion.
As jaded as I am, I am still amazed at how much some AWs feel they can get away with. Just how much entitlement does some of them feel they are owed???
[quote=chocha monger]i recently had dinner with a rotund american woman. she works in the same building as i do and happened to hear me mentioning that i had not sampled a particular dish in quite some time, so she said that she knew the location of a restaurant that served a delicious version of said dish. anyway, i agreed to let her show me the location on her way home. i followed in my car until we got to the restaurant where she asked if she could join me for dinner. i wasn’t keen on this but i did not want to be rude seeing that this heifer worked in the same organization that i did and could make things uncomfortable if she felt slighted.
we both ordered and while waiting she started making small talk asking my age and other personal details which i rebuffed. she invited me to accompany her on some outings but i told her that i had a girlfriend who wouldn’t appreciate me spending time with another female outside of business. that was hardly a speed bump and she continued her interrogation. finally, i decided to change the subject of the conversation to her and not me. she told me that she did not date men from the local area. she said that any man who had to pay child support or work two jobs to pay his bills was not for her. i smirked and asked her what if he was a really nice honest guy but had to work two jobs to get ahead? certainly that was better than being a thief wasn’t it? she said that it didn’t matter what kind of person he was, she just didn’t want a man that had to work that hard for a living.
i was amazed. here was this obese unattractive american woman who considered herself too good for a hard working man. i wondered to myself if she ever looked at herself in the mirror and how she could possibly say a thing like that when indeed she would be lucky if a man… any man, showed interest in her. she not only had a corpulent body but a very overweight ego as well. i told her that she would probably end up marrying a guy lower down the social ladder than the one i mentioned. she said that she would remain single then. she then said that she could see me marrying with someone from the local area and settling down with some kids. i howled with laughter and told her that she obviously didn’t know me quite well and that i loved my money too much to do anything so foolish. this seemed to enrage her a bit and she asked if i didn’t want to leave my genes behind. i replied that didn’t really concern me since the world was already over populated but if she felt the need to leave her genes behind to further contribute to the situation i would not be critical. well, she got into a huff and said that i was being mean. i said that i was not being mean but she was being rude wishing children and marriage upon me when that clearly wasn’t on my agenda. i informed her that i did not date american women and found the idea of marrying one to be offensive to the point of being an insult. she was stunned and asked me how i thought that she felt hearing this since she was an american woman. i said that it shouldn’t matter to her because it was a personal choice not a matter of public opinion.
i excused myself saying that i had a prior engagement and left. clearly, this aw had some unrealistic expectations. one can only imagine what kind of man the skinny ones think they deserve![/quote]
may i be so bold to ask who paid the dinner???
yes i agree also here in western europe many women think they are gods gift to mankind......! even women in their late forties looking like utter shit think they can get a younger man...and guess what:
they do!!!!!!!!!!!!! purely on the fact of demografic factors:-(
i met allready plenty women here of 35-36 yo telling me (40 yo) that iam "too old". fts!!!
no mo marriage for this guy!!!;-)
johan
[QUOTE=Paddy]CM,
Had a similar experience several years ago. In this case, however, the American woman I was having dinner with was actually in pretty good shape and quite attractive. I was "interrogated" just like you. When I did not express any definitve interest in her she began to ask indirectly if I was "gay." Huh??? Actually, she was rather skillful and discreet in her line of questioning about my being "gay" and why I was not kneeling before her feminine charms. She seemed to be genuinely miffed.
When I told her that I only date foreign women and particularly women from Eastern Europe, she went ballistic and made quite a scene at the restaurant. She was loud, finger pointing, etc. It was quite a show and when I smiled at her she became even more enraged. Everyone in the restaurant was staring at me. Hey, she asked and I told her.
My primary conclusion was that AW don't want Tatiana, Svetlana or Isabella threatening the sweet deal that they have going here in the states. BTW, at the conclusion of this tortureous dinner she refused to contribute anything toward the bill (which was OK with me) despite the fact that she initiated dinner.[/QUOTE]
I can confirm that Dutch or German women also are NOT very pleased if you tell them you date latinas. (or any other forreign women).
I just try to avoid the women here....in that case in my little shithole were i live there are not many single women and on my job most women are married or allready have a life partner:-) yes.....here I also got the "gay discussion"thing....pathetic.....
Offcourse I can't tell them of my fuck trips down South-America....!!! just imagine how that would be received;-) I would just be another "dirty pervert" ....:-(
cheers
Johan
(dutch guy living in Germany)
[QUOTE=Johan007]May i be so bold to ask who paid the dinner???
Johan[/QUOTE]
Each party paid.
Interesting that the 35-36 yrs old maids think that you're too old at 40 yrs though their reproductive machinery is nearing the end of its serviceable life. Many of these women start experiencing dryness, fibroids, ovarian cysts and other issues at this age. However, they can still find younger guys for a fuck or even marriage in some cases. I guess young guys have difficulty fucking girls their own age and short change themselves by settling for worn out "MILFs".
If you're not tied up supporting some hag's lifestyle then you will face attacks with the accusation of being "gay". Another favorite attack is the argument that one must be "pathetic" or a "pervert" to travel outside of one's country to meet women. Women see this off-shoring of sex and money as a serious threat to their power at home. They don't have any interest in fucking Joe Average but the fact that he travels abroad and fucks women much hotter than they are makes them very angry because they can't help but think that Prince Charming might get wise to the game too ruining their chances for marrying his money. It is no secret that many of these women have become accustomed to the free dinners and outings paid for by guys they have no interest in fucking at all.
[QUOTE=Johan007]
Offcourse I can't tell them of my fuck trips down South-America....!!! just imagine how that would be received;-) I would just be another "dirty pervert" ....:-(
[/QUOTE]
I always assumed mentioning trips to South America and Latin girlfriends was an excellent way to shutdown a conversation with an American girl. But last year I was cornered into a date with an aggressive, smart AW, who gave a solid effort at dragging me to the altar.
As a rule, I never mention dating SAWs to AWs - it's just rude. Sort of like telling someone "You're dating out of your league". It might be a good thing for them to know, but it's not my role to tell them. My job is to sit and make pleasant small talk till the check comes. For practice, if no other reason.
I don't give a crap if they think I'm gay. If, against odds, some excellent single AW ends up travelling in my American social circles and I want to ask her out it's going to be a [i]lot[/i] easier if the word on the street is "He's gay" than if the scuttlebutt involves foriegn women.
At any rate, the aggressive, smart AW was such a pain. The type that doesn't take an indirect "no". You have to thwack them upside the head with the wine list and scream "I don't want any part of you, your biological urges, your family full of lawyers and all the ensuing crap that's likely to develop from spending any more time with you".
I just wanted her to leave me alone. So, pulling the trigger, I tossed out "Oh, yeah, I've got a girl in Colombia I've spent a bit of time with...."
She jumps back with "Oh, sure, I had a boyfriend in Honduras last year."
Desperately, I reached for the wine list....
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger]If you're not tied up supporting some hag's lifestyle then you will face attacks with the accusation of being "gay". Another favorite attack is the argument that one must be "pathetic" or a "pervert" to travel outside of one's country to meet women. Women see this off-shoring of sex and money as a serious threat to their power at home. They don't have any interest in fucking Joe Average but the fact that he travels abroad and fucks women much hotter than they are makes them very angry because they can't help but think that Prince Charming might get wise to the game too ruining their chances for marrying his money. It is no secret that many of these women have become accustomed to the free dinners and outings paid for by guys they have no interest in fucking at all.[/QUOTE]
I must really be bad news because I don't get accused of being gay have or anyone hitting on me or trying to hook me up with 'friends'. And I work in a female dominated industry. I think the thing is that I spend my money on travel and [b]look[/b] it. I drive a used car. I don't wear and 'bling-bling' of any type. I don't wear flashy expensive clothes. And the kicker - I wear inexpensive shoes!
When a man looks like he doesn't have much money, he won't have ANY problems with AWs.
[QUOTE=Jelly Donut]I just wanted her to leave me alone. So, pulling the trigger, I tossed out "Oh, yeah, I've got a girl in Colombia I've spent a bit of time with...."
She jumps back with "Oh, sure, I had a boyfriend in Honduras last year."
Desperately, I reached for the wine list....[/QUOTE]
I would have kept the ball in her court with questions as to why she dated a Honduran, why she couldn't find a US man, if she wasn't interested in US men any more, etc.
I have noticed that increasing numbers of US women are dating or married to Asian men (Chinese, Indian). Based on the behavior of the men, I strongly suspect it is because AWs are able to find passive, compliant men among the immigrants from these countries.
hizark21 posted the link to this article in the tijuana thread, but i wanted to put it here as well, since it is just as relavent in the aw thread as the tj thread:
disneyland for grown men
by jennifer cooke
we mexican kids growing up in the '80s in the south bay of san diego heard stories of tijuana's red-light district, known as the cahuila (pronounced ca-hwe-la). we had never been there to see it, so it loomed in our imaginations as a place crowded with "houses of ill repute," "ladies of the night," and other exotic goings-on we didn't fully understand. its mystery made it useful in a cautionary way, such as "you better stop acting like such a **** or you'll end up working in the cahuila!" it could be employed as an insult: "i saw your mom in the cahuila!" since the spanish word for cage, jaula (pronounced how-la), sounds similar to cahuila, i imagined the place as a giant birdcage full of half-naked women, their limbs dangling from between the bars. (i later learned that the correct word is "coahuila," a street in tijuana's zona norte named after the state in mexico.)
just as i never believed my girlfriends would become hookers in a tijuana brothel, i never expected male friends to become customers. i viewed prostitution as a service used out of necessity by men who were unattractive, socially awkward, or married and looking for extramarital sex. perhaps a single man found himself at an age where he wasn't comfortable carousing in the gaslamp among girls who were much younger.
but david hernández (not his real name) is none of the above. with his dark hair and long eyelashes, he could pass for a more muscular, rugged version of oscar de la hoya. at 26, he is charming, funny, outgoing, educated, and employed. he says he has a wide social circle and enjoys clubbing and exercising -- a claim borne out by his tanned, toned bicep that peeks from the sleeve of his shirt.
hernández calls his favorite tijuana brothel "the happiest place on earth -- it's like disneyland for grown men!" he discovered it in 2002 on a jaunt south of the border with friends. "it wasn't as popular back then," he says, "but everybody knows about that spot now."
and by "everybody" he means guys like himself, the kind you might find downtown any night at the martini ranch or stingaree.
i come right out and say it: he could probably get any number of females in the gaslamp to go home with him. why pay for it? "it's just the beauty of no attachments and no commitments, no bs," he says. "you see a hot chick, you do your thing, and you never have to talk again."
tourism in tijuana has taken a devastating blow in the wake of 9/11, but you would never know it from hernández's description of a friday night in one of the oldest brothels in the coahuila. apparently, business is booming and the place filled to capacity with raucous guys partying like it's 1999 -- or any year before 2001.
hernández and his friends park at the shops at las americas in san ysidro and walk across the border to catch a cab. he tells the driver the name of the bar, "and the driver gives kind of a snicker and takes you straight over there." when the guys make preliminary stops on revolución, they take precautions: "we always make sure and put our [prostitution] money in our socks so we don't spend it!"
he and four other men i talk to are adamant that the girls are "gorgeous" and "stunning." hernández says, "there are some old, ugly ones but not many, and they don't get much attention from anybody."
while there is a dance floor, hernández says he's seen a girl dance only once in all the times he's been there. there is no pretense about the purpose of the establishment. "you're either drinking or [having sex] or both, or the staff kicks you out." hernández and his friends make the rounds of the room, looking for the best girls. the degree of small talk varies from sitting down together for a couple of drinks to walking straight up to the preferred girl and asking, "¿cuánto?" ("how much?"). hernández says he prefers the latter approach.
the going rate is $60. that gets you 20 to 30 minutes upstairs at the adjacent hotel, which can be entered from inside the bar. "when i first went, there was never any line for the hotel," he explains. "you just went straight up the stairs to the hole-in-the-wall front desk and paid $11 for the room. the last time i went, though, the line of people wrapped all the way around the inside of the bar along the wall. it's crazy how popular that place has gotten."
once inside the 10-by-12 room, hernández says there is no time to waste. a guy had better stick to the allotted time limit or someone will come knocking at the door "whether you are done or not. you don't mess around over there because they will [mess] with you if you act up."
as he describes the room, he cracks, "there's no telling when the bedspread and sheets were washed. you don't think about that at the time, though." his concern about cleanliness never goes further than the linens, however. what about sexually transmitted diseases? what about hiv? hernández's is one of the first generations to grow up with demonstrations in school of how to put a condom on a banana instead of grainy army training films about the dangers of getting a dose of the clap. he's never known a world without aids. so how can he blithely put himself at risk? another american coahuila regular tells me, "the girls all use condoms. and the girls are clean! they take a shower right in front of you!"
for his part, hernández says that every weekend can be risky, "whether in tj or in pacific beach on the prowl," and leaves it at that. one recurring theme i hear is that since prostitution is legal in mexico, tijuana's health department regularly tests the girls for sexually transmitted diseases. "you can't get that kind of guarantee from a random girl you meet over here," one man tells me.
so what is it about guys like hernández? is the traditional dating scene that tiresome? "if you think about it," he says, "it's cheaper altogether" to go to his favorite coahuila bar. "dinner, movies, concerts, gas money driving everywhere -- it's so much work, and this could take weeks with a girl you meet in san diego. in tj, you pay your money straight up, and you're done in 30 minutes. like me and my friends always say, all men pay for it one way or another."
the growing social acceptability in the united states of these "regular joes" becoming "regular johns" may not be occurring in tijuana. i meet luis in a quiet bar in chula vista, where he often comes after work before crossing the border to go home. he shoots pool with a coworker named brenda, and we chat after luis offers to buy me a drink. they seem excited to see a new face in their regular hangout, and even the bartender gets in on the conversation. after a few drinks, they say they are going dancing that night in tijuana, and i ask, "going anywhere near the coahuila?"
the smile leaves luis's face, and all chitchat comes to a halt. he puts his pool cue back in its case as he tells me no, he's not going anywhere near the coahuila. "you know why?" he asks me in spanish. "because my parents brought me up right. i don't go to places like that."
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notice the typical aw assumptions about prostitution at the beginning of the article ("i imagined the place as a giant birdcage full of half-naked women, their limbs dangling from between the bars." who the hell thinks like this?). then she goes into the typical assumption that only guys that are "unattractive" or "socially awkward" pay for sex. also, i find it very hard to believe that the last two paragraphs of this article are even true, unless "luis" is either extremely religious, or gay. i'm just going to assume that miss cooke made the last part of her essay up.