[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]Are we talking strictly AW here or Western Women in general?[/QUOTE]
Mainly AW......
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[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]Are we talking strictly AW here or Western Women in general?[/QUOTE]
Mainly AW......
[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]Now look, I like older women to a point. Yes there is less drama usually, kids are teenagers or out of the house, usually further along on their career path, etc, etc.
I'm just going with what been hitting on me and its that not good -
1) A woman with financial trouble, recently divorced, still sporting 80's clothes and hair style.
2) A very hot 42 year old German woman, wrong place, wrong time, I'm broke at the moment.
3) Some 41 year old Norwegian Blond looking a bit weathered (seems Scandinavians age a bit prematurely)[/QUOTE]I understand DJ. I too screen them from the beggining the first time we speak. 1,2 and 3 from your list is fine as long as-
1. She doesnt ask for anything.
2. Has a decent body and face with good hygeine.
3. I'm never going out anywhere with her so her hairstyle or fashion sense doesnt matter.
4. Doesnt play any games when i asked to come over after 11pm (done by phone that night) - just says cool or ok. (more words means more future expectations from you)
5. And Must have her own place.
Its honestly an ongoing screen if anything changes i cut them loose( they always get back their common sense and ask you to come over and most importantly i never see them more than 2-3 times a month if at all some months, and only at their place to handle adult business until theyve built up some trust over time to come thru my place only when invited late at night or early morns. And if they call or text too much they get the axe. That means their trying to expand on to a relationship.
I've found thru experimentation that women 10 + years older than myself are the best ones for this group.
I tell them im 5 years younger than I am and theyre afraid of going out with someone so young. Women closer to my age or younger still think they have a shot at getting the i do and play more games upfront.
that citi bank chick is nothin if you've ever been to latin america. shit. i do not want to fuck heffers and baggage here in e.e.u.u.. travel is where its at!!!
check this bullshit!
an article, once again, about balless american men , pussy ass. latinas let a amna be a man!!!!!! check it!
[url]http://lifestyle.msn.com/relationships/articlematch.aspx?cp-documentid=24077871&Gt1=32023[/url]
stay horny my friends and say no to fat AW!!!!!
[QUOTE=Oh Ya Papi]that citi bank chick is nothin if you've ever been to latin america. shit. i do not want to fuck heffers and baggage here in e.e.u.u.. travel is where its at!!!
check this bullshit!
an article, once again, about balless american men , pussy ass. latinas let a amna be a man!!!!!! check it!
[url]http://lifestyle.msn.com/relationships/articlematch.aspx?cp-documentid=24077871&Gt1=32023[/url]
stay horny my friends and say no to fat AW!!!!![/QUOTE]
Just....wow at that list...
that list. yeah. about says it all. notice not one word about wanting a good lover. shows how important sex is to them. but a lot about catering to her "needs". "he should understand the importance of jewelry in a woman's life." and we must be soooo sensitive and talk about our feelings, go shopping with her, be one of her girlfriends, be her psychotherapist, yet must still be manly enough to fix her car and provide for her materially.
read the list of facts in my previous post, not only a travel, but a different social system where males and females are used to live together since adolescence. moreover, you, you don't know the social system in western countries such as italy.
men in western countries have got the same problem. the solution is to change the social system. but how can we change the system if who decides in favor of women are men??? at last, if women command in western countries is why men let women to command. therefore, stop complaining and convince your friends and neighbors to change their words and behaviours with women.
please, don't confuse free sex with pay sex. for example, in italy, there is pay sex because men' normal sexual life is about zero. anyway, there were sex scandals in italy too, and not about female prostitutes but about "trans" prostitutes!
yes, bp is british but it has drilled in your sea! and be sure, that is a business for a lot of americans too. and what does your president do to keep up the usa's moral? he sings with paul mac cartney . . .
[quote=yogin]acolonizer: what is the depth & breadth of your experience of the us? a single two-week visit? watching tv, movies, porn, and the news? the sex-loving society you imagine is in reality the level of sophistication, fear, maturity, ability to deliver the goods, and **** leering of that of an 11-year-old boy.
the only places that are comparable sex prisons are canada (with the notable exception of french-speaking catholic quebec...go figure, the ultimate case study that proves our point!), uk and maybe australia. what do they have in common? puritanism, protestantism, and virulent brands of feminism.
the relatively sex-drenched places are not limited to the so-called "third-world". one could go to an advanced country such as japan, for example, and get all the high quality unfettered sex one could possibly hope for...and free. and if you have the money and interest, there's a dizzying array and variety of p4p where you won't be arrested and have your life ruined. why? no fucked up religion and feminism.
politicians, entertainers, and sports figures are routinely ruined and humiliated in public for having mistresses or sex workers. would that happen in france or italy, catholic countries? of course not.
and don't put down the us for the blowout and subsequent failures. we do plenty that is fucked up, but that's for the politics board. it's called british petroleum.[/quote]
Awhile back, I hooked up with a Chinese girl of Canadian descent.
Little chunky, not bad, double Ds, enjoys sex, has offered to lick my taint. She's not much for returning calls or staying in daily communication and she basically just has me over for sex. She's bisexual.
Little on the materialistic side, but in this case, it just seems to further establish her independence.
By the way, I've been offered a position in Miami. Would any of y'all recommend living there as a single guy?
I'm in fairly good shape, not bad looking, not really good looking, basically a soon-to-be 40 hairy, Spanish bilingual redneck. Think it could work for me as a city?
[QUOTE=Vaquero]By the way, I've been offered a position in Miami. Would any of y'all recommend living there as a single guy?
I'm in fairly good shape, not bad looking, not really good looking, basically a soon-to-be 40 hairy, Spanish bilingual redneck. Think it could work for me as a city?[/QUOTE]I think this can be a good idea. Miami is not as fucked up as many other American cities, there are many foreigners, good weather, etc. Also getting SW is not that difficult as in other places. And the proximity to islands and South America makes it really good place. You can fly for $200-$300 virtually anywhere for a weekend for example. I actually consider Florida as a place to live in the future.
absolutely no sex for you and she can walk out on you at anytime. man, where do i sign up to get together with such a fine catch :d? she needs to find the nearest whaling boat so they can harpoon her ass!!! she has to be kidding.
[quote=yogin]that list. yeah. about says it all. notice not one word about wanting a good lover. shows how important sex is to them. but a lot about catering to her "needs". "he should understand the importance of jewelry in a woman's life." and we must be soooo sensitive and talk about our feelings, go shopping with her, be one of her girlfriends, be her psychotherapist, yet must still be manly enough to fix her car and provide for her materially.[/quote]
Voyager: The list I referred to was here [url]http://lifestyle.msn.com/relationsh...77871&Gt1=32023[/url] which is a compilation of a survey of dozens of women of all ages. Not the fat old sex worker.
Here are some questions that were asked of married American Men . Their replies follow and show for the most part that marriages to AW are a complete sham. A pattern emerges in which AW give you all the sex you want before marriage, when you've fallen hook line and sinker, then all the sex goes away after marriage and you're fucked.
[QUOTE]1.Does the quantity/quality of sex really drop off after marriage or after having kids?
2.Are you married guys still able to DATY with your wives or does the wife completely lose interest in anything sexual after marriage and having kids.
3. Do any of you have wives whose hornyness has increased after marriage and kids?
Yes it really does drop off after both marriage and again even more after kids. Its actually pretty crazy how it happens exactly like everyone says it will. In my case, we dated for like 7 years and prior to marriage still had a sex life like we were still both 18 year olds. Within a year of being married she took that all away. No more BJ's, sex maybe once a month if I was lucky, and nothing at all kinky. After our first kid, she no longer allows DATY or anything except mish on the super rare occasion that she allows sex anymore.
PTB
What I want to know is WHY!!!! Why for 7 years she blew you and then took it off the table? I mean if she didn't really like it, 7 years is a long time to deal...unless it was to keep you until marriage. Still damn unfair if you ask me. The no DATY after childbirth could be that she feels her private parts are no longer attractive after being stretched...although with exercise it should snap back (no experience on that one as I have no children and don't plan on having any)...just a wild guess based on the reading I have done.
LB
3 months after we got married was my last BJ (on my birthday), so yes it was just one of the many things she did to keep me around until marriage :-( Amazing though after one gets a real BJ, well I wasn't missing much/anything from the half assed one at home.
re no DATY, that's one of the many bogus reasons she gives. I say bogus, because she thought they were unattractive long before childbirth and still love to receive plenty of DATY back then.
LB
It dropped off for me. Before having kids, and even more so after having kids. No DATY after she gave birth, she says she's too self conscious. There's very little interest in most sexual activity.
MP
Within my marriage my wife was sure to create sexual satisfaction for me. After the first child came along the sex became less frequent and mechanical. Mechanical satisfies the immediate necessity but nothing to quell the boredom of 'routine' sex. She was very adamant about receiving as much daty as possible but almost refused bbbj for faith-based reasons. Try and explain that one. I would pay good money for that answer. LOL
OSP
When we were young the sex was good. as we grew older the sex diminished to non existence. We do not have kids. While it is a little harder for my self physically (mentally I am as horny as ever) with all the ailments of age and poisons our culture bring to our bodies, Women's sexual health is much more complicated. Kids and marriage has nothing to do with it. Most women are afraid to talk about it with their doctors and most doctors are not knowledgeable enough to treat it. But I have been told that 40% of women suffer from diminished sexual drive. A woman's body is one complex hormonal soup. Too much or too little of anything can put it out of balance! All I can suggest is to have good enough communication to seek help when the time comes.
ST
Our sex life was once to twice a week before marriage and has gone through ups and downs based on various issues. Still receive great BJ's and I know what I like, so getting them from a provider is exciting and fun to compare. DATY on occasion. We now have sex about once a week on average, which is less than before we were married, but about at the same frequency even after 2 kids and 10 years. Another addition has been to add toys to the sex life. SO was never vocal or demonstrative about what she enjoyed, but since adding a few toys her pleasure has gone way up, and therefore we're both happier. We work on the communication to try and keep things going well for both of us. This hobby has allowed me to meet some needs that have not been met at home, and that keeps the stress waaaayyyy down for everyone, and the happiness way up for me and mr happy.
AM
For my wife and me, marriage was more of an arbitrary point in our relationship where we decided to slap a more binding legal label on things (God, that sounds so unromantic :). Because we fucked like bunnies early on in our relationship, sex frequency had to fall off. Buying a house which required more of a commute reduced the frequency, but that was simply tiredness often entering the equation. Having a child did reduce sex, dramatically. Unlike it seems with a lot of respondents here, it wasn't some sort of unilateral decision on her part. We both are just too damned tired a lot of the time - we both work full time, have a fairly demanding child, etc. etc. etc. Even when we try to make plans, things can derail them. I reentered the "hobby" for a few reasons - the old "not being wired for monogamy" excuse, the seven year itch, not always feeling appreciated by my wife, what have you. One reason I did not get back into it was because my wife did not want to have sex with me as much as I wanted to have sex with her.If she found out I were dabbling again, it would probably be a quick divorce.
BF
38 Years Married...
...I can say that yes, the sex (both quality and quantity) drops off. I still love my wife. I don't want to be married to anyone else. We're very happy together BUT...I want more intimacy than she does. She knows nothing about my hobbying activities and she never will. I've been hobbying for about 12 years and have met some splendid, beautiful women but when it comes to home and hearth, she's the one. We have kids and grandkids. Why would I want to jeopardize that? Answer: I don't. That's why I'm very careful.
GT
Married 33 years
and sex definitely dropped off after kids arrived.
Part of the reason for that was that grad school also entered the equation along with many more hours of work. We only have a finite amount of energy! Sex increased after the kids moved out until menopause hit. She has very little interest now and sex with an uninterested partner isn't the most fun. It's kind of strange. Sex with my wife is now focused almost entirely on my own satisfaction while the ladies I hobby with 'provide' much more give and take.
WW
Sex falls off after marriage and it falls off dramatically after kids. I don't care who the woman is during the dating stage of your relationship, sex will fall off substantially at some point. It may even become non-existant (or so seldom that it may as well be). Anyone who tells you differently...is selling something.
RS[/QUOTE]
What a huge difference... here in Colombia unless it's a gold digger (actually NOT common in the local culture like people think).... women put HUGE importance on whether a man is a good lover or not....
I just got through a whole weekend of sexual olympics with a girl here, she wanted to see for herself that I would be as good a lover or better as her current bf BEFORE breaking it off with him.... and she told it to me straight.... no good sex.... NO DEAL.....
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]What a huge difference... here in Colombia unless it's a gold digger (actually NOT common in the local culture like people think).... women put HUGE importance on whether a man is a good lover or not....
I just got through a whole weekend of sexual olympics with a girl here, she wanted to see for herself that I would be as good a lover or better as her current bf BEFORE breaking it off with him.... and she told it to me straight.... no good sex.... NO DEAL.....[/QUOTE]
She sounds like my Japanese girlfriend, who demands and gives variety, quality and quantity. Now that's a quite reasonable demand I could live with! What a refreshing departure from AW's.
Yup, instead of vampirizing me she lifts me up by insisting on things that evolve me and are good for me! Imagine the idea of a couple actually being a TEAM working towards common goals!!
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]Yup, instead of vampirizing me she lifts me up by insisting on things that evolve me and are good for me! Imagine the idea of a couple actually being a TEAM working towards common goals!![/QUOTE]
That's un-Amurrican. :D
Of course, it isn't [i]in[/i] "Amurrica" (the USA) so it's none of NOW's f***ing business. You're a lucky man, BC, though by all accounts you worked hard to be worth it.
[quote=Thomas Jefferson]I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it.[/quote]