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I am comparing foreign women to women I knew in New York who lived at some rather upscale addresses, these are women ranked among the top 2 percent of the US population in terms of income, and their grooming leaves a lot to be desired, even an Amsterdam prostitute dresses better than a lot of the women I meet in NYC. American women suck end of story.
Natalie Portman, beautiful? You must be smoking some potent shit I rate her a 7 out of ten. I will agree with you about Christy Turlington but a woman like that in the US is a rarity. I am in Europe right now traveling, and I see women of that calibre all over the place. Just because a woman comes from a foreign country and doesn't have a large bank balance, she is not a peasant. I have known lots of American women many of them who happen to have Ivy League degrees, have the letters MD or CPA behind them, and some of the ladies I have met in Europe and elsewhere outclass them in culture and sophistication.
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Rare sighting
Lennox, I kind of envy the fact that you've seem to run into a few AW's who are NOT dysfunctional, soul-sucking money-pits. I WILL tell you, however, that your experience is a RARITY. To some degree or another, ALL AW's grow up believing in the "Princess Principle"; basically, they feel that they are to be fought over (not necessarily physical fighting) because they are "special". It is extremely RARE that an AW will bring attributes to the table that TRULY make it worth a lifetime commitment for a man to accept. I'm not talking about physical beauty, 'cos MANY AW's are physically attractive without the benefit of being just as beautiful INSIDE. Are these AW's of whom you sing prasies the types who would gladly recharge her man's vitality after having done battle with the rest of the world (for example: putting up with a crappy boss, getting a ticket from an asshole cop, or many other similar things that stress a person out) simply because she loves him and making him happy makes HER happy? Or (as is most likely) do they NOT want to hear about his problems (I'm not saying listen INCESSANTLY to the point of him driving her insane) and turn the conversation IMMEDIATELY about THEM? I'm not attacking you, but DO look closer at your experiences and NOT so much at face value.
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Sure, not all AW are bad
i have yet to meet an american woman who did not believe one or more of the following:
-men should pay (dates, rings, vacations, etc), just because
-one in four women are raped (which is false).
-women should be given access to men's clubs, but men should not be given access to women's clubs.
-since the congress is 99% male, it is evidence that men conspire to hold women down.
-women are paid 76cents on the dollar (again this is false).
-men get women drunk to have sex (as opposed to women getting drunk to have an excuse to have sex).
-men and women are equal, but if women ruled the world, [b]it would be a much better place.[/b]
-being a housewife or taking care of the husband (cooking meals) is slavery
-if a man doesnt like women in [category x] then he is a superficial bastard, but if a woman doesnt like men in [category y which is the male equivalent of x] then that is her preference.
-it is ok to hit a man, [i]cause he deserved it[/i], but you better not dare hit a woman back after she hits you.
the list goes on. i have quizzed the german women i met. this particular brand of feminism is foreign to them. but nearly every american woman i have met believes this nonsense. this is [i]part[/i] of the reason why american women are trash. they simply believe that men are evil creatures.
[quote] what about your mother, was she scum? (if she was maybe that explains some of your problems with women)[/quote]this is the typical attempt to shame men for pointing out the inadequacies of american women. to speak negative about women is tantamount to misogyny in the eyes of all women and their male defenders (cause it is simply impossible that any group of women could be intolerable, right?). the fact of the matter is, that it is a mother's duty to be good to her son. other women are under no obligation to men who are not their sons. therefore our mothers can not be compared to women in general. in any case, the fact that our mothers are american women does not mean that american women [i]as a whole[/i] are above criticism.
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Aw
Regarding recent conversation:
1. Hygiene-The only place in the world that I have encountered skanky poontang is the US of A. Granted, I haven't traveled extensively but...
2. Class and elegance. I believe Lennox referred to some girls as "peasants". I know a number of Czech prostitutes. They are basically mostly (at least to start with) poor girls from the countryside of a poor country. Yet, the vast majority of those girls, I would be completely comfortable putting a cocktail dress on, and taking them to a fancy party or a four star restaurant-they are thin, pretty, educated, witty, articulate, congenial etc. In fact, I strongly suspect that they would be substantively better in that environment than I myself would be. Conversely, comparing apples to apples, many of the wealthy US of A's "poor girls from the country", I would be embarassed to be seen with at KFC. I suspect that our friend Lennox is making the error of extrapolating from a small sample of high grade women he has the good fortune to be around, and doesn't get the full force blast of ***** behavior as an exotic foreign guy.
3. Lennox brought up our mothers. My Mother, who I do love dearly, is in fact badly "Oprahsized". Despite having a life that is more comfortable than 95% of the planet (lives in a big house with a fairly high degree of luxury, doesn't have to work, is able to lay around when she feels bad, has plenty of food and great health care) believes that she is downtrodden, opressed, and not treated fairly, and vocalizes her feelings on the subject frequently, often, and obnoxiouisly. I have tried to explain to her, that there are women in the world who have to scrub their husbands stained underwear on the banks of a river in 10 degree below zero weather, but this is to no avail. My Mother incidently grew up prior to the rotting effects of feminism-this sort of thing is only going to get worse.
By the way, I am not absolutely sure that this is the case, but I believe that our friend Domino has been labeled a "Serial Antagonist" as the result of a poll, and has henceforth been confined to his own forum threads in I believe Thailand and the Philipines.
Bart9K
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Since the types of AWs Lennox Lewis is defending represent probably about 1 percent of the American female population where does this leave the 99 percent of American males? Not in a good position, even in the worst case scenario in a Western Euro or other country, I have found that at least 40 percent of the women were highly desirable.
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If you are searching for gold you go to an area that is known for having gold deposits. You don't wade through piles of pig shit just because there is an extremely small probability that if you did it long enough you might find a gold nugget in a pig turd.
Many guys come to this forum after spending many years and numerous dollars in search of the elusive reasonable American woman. They realize that the system is against them and that AW have no intentions of changing the system. Tyhigs77's earlier posting is an excellent summary of this system of beliefs and values. Even if an AW appeared to be a decent person, are you willing to risk finincial ruin and lose your kids if she should decide that you're not what she wants later or vice versa? American women don't just want some of it, they want all of it. Sure I have met some that talk a good talk but I have yet to see them walk the walk. Just remember that if you marry or have kids with an AW you're putting your head on a chopping block and handing her the axe with the hope that she will have mercy on you.
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From all my experiences with White, Black. Asian American women. I think Black American women have the nastiest atitude of them all. I've been seeing this Eastern European woman for about a year. She's the best woman I've ever been around. She treats me like a king and she's drop dead gorgeous with none of the BS atittude typical of AW.
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Aw
Women have the same diploma's as men.The same skils?
At the job they always find some stuped male ass to do there work.
It is easier to be the boss of hundred men than five women.
When something goes wrong, the computer has done it.
Think before you talk to her! She does not speak the same english!
Be very careful you dirty old man!
90 % complaining and 10 % work.
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What balance are you talking about, Lennox? This puny thread versus the $1 Trillion US media conglomerates spreading the idea that American women look like Angelina Jolie and Britney Spears? Give me a break, people around the world have some false bullshit "Hollywood" image of the American female as being perfect, those women represent less than 1 percent of the real female population. A virtually penniless coal miner's daughter I met in Germany a few years ago, who I tragically lost, had more beauty, class, culture, and sophistication than all the AW celebrities combined.
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to add on...
I had forgotten to tell Lennox that example you gave, Chocha. I was gonna put it in terms of looking for a SPECIFIC GRAIN OF SAND on a beach on BOTH SIDES of the Pacific Rim. THAT'S how rare this mythical creature is that Lennox speaks of. Take note that I did NOT say she is nonexistent, just extremely RARE. And yeah, what's to stop her from doing the "bait and switch" with her attitude (AND physique) and turning on you once you have the shackles (whoops! I meant RING) firmly affixed to you?
Like I said, I don't wanna bash Lennox, but I think MAYBE he hasn't examined his circumstances closely enough.
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The Facts
To Lennox, CBGB Chocha et al,
The facts are as follows;
We have the highest rates of obesity (male and female) in the world. It's getting so bad now, even the KIDS are turning into little porkers.
We have a high standard of living and high average wages to pay for it. This contributes to a sense of entitlement common in many women.
We have the most mixed-up gender roles for women. We also have a pervasive media influence that promotes these non-traditional roles for women.
What happens when these and other factors come together? Unattractive women who are confused, insecure and demanding. Much more so, to my way of thinking, than in other regions of the world where a more traditional way of living (and thinking) can still be found.
I'm sure there are lots of good women to be found just as Lennox stated in his recent post. As a matter of fact, I used to get laid (for free) on a regular basis. But that all changed as I got older. I noticed that, around age 30, it was getting harder and harder to find girls who just wanted to have some fun.When I was 21, I was confident, even fearless. By the time I turned 35, I would hardly even try saying Hi anymore.
It seems like there's a hardening process that occurs as girls get older. The nice ones get scooped up by the time they're in their mid 20's and all that's left are the ones that nobody wants. Guess which ones we're most likely to run into?
Rock
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The ones nobody wants...
AW's have the power to BE the one somebody wants if they don't squander their "powers" at their peak. Instead of planning for their future, they live TOTALLY in the moment until the day comes that they realize that they DON'T have the fabulous life they fantasize (but never planned for) about. That life consists of the fabulous house, the fabulous husband, the fabulous kids, the fabulous vacations, etc. Instead of planning to couple with the quality man they lament never having met, they're out constantly sampling bad boy convict types who would never CONCEIVE of sharing a life with the latest notch on his belt. When the time finally comes to take that step to couple with a man, they have to SETTLE for what they can NOW get, and THAT is far less than what they would have accepted in years past, OR they hold to the standards of years past, never realizing that they no longer wield the power of their earlier days and get NO ONE. Eventually, with BOTH situations (SOONER with the latter scenario) you have the creation of the Bitter B**** in her 30's who blames MEN for HER poor choices. To put it bluntly to AW's, "If you snooze, YOU LOSE". If you seek to BLAME someone, run to the nearest mirror...
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Rock Dog is spot on, the unfortunate downside of prosperity is that people develop a sense of entitlement. This is all too common among North American and other Western women.
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Obesity is the key
I agree with Rock Dog, Obesity for me is a decisive factor that drives me to overseas locales for my adventures. I love how thin and even waifish many women around the world still aspire to be. The feminist revulsion has made it ok for women to not only become porkers but also "buff" and too manly for my taste. Look at how USA dominates at sports like soccer where our man-women win all the events. Only the steroid taking chinese monsters of swimming are a more disgusting site. The obesity is really a revulting and disturbing trend. It is truly a disgusting and disgraceful situation with AW becoming the cows of the world. It is a national disgrace!
I think you guys may have a point, maybe my circumstances are different....ask Jackson how unique my circumstances are, he actually met an AW friend of mine.
I know there are still are some nice AW, but the situation is definately abysmal in the overall picture. Yes, college campuses have your hot young slutty freshman who want to show off their delicious 18 year old bodies and don't mind one night stands, but they are often treated badly and instead of being treasured as a precious resource they soon adopt the feminazi principles.
I wasn't trying to start dispute when I said there are exceptions to the horrid AW routinely detailed on this thread. For those who have not given up all hope of AW I think that most of the nicer more feminine types of women are in fields like nurses, teachers...ones that are more traditional female roles where empathy, kindness and nurturing are still rewarded. The lawyer types can be real soulless creatures. I guess all I was saying is that if you still have a dream of one day having a family and the monger life isn't bringing total fulfillment there is still some AW to consider along with all the international beauties.
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complete bs.
i am currently taking nursing classes. let me tell you, the fact that a woman becomes a nurse is not correlated with a lack of misandry or even a more empathetic attitude (sorry to bust your bubble on that one).
this summer, i had a 4'11' 400lbs (guesstimate) woman teacher who said the following:
1. the reason why elderly men have erectile dysfunction is because they are too busy cheating on their wives in their younger years with the neighbor, the girl down the street, the girl at work, the girl at the bakery, the girl at the gym.
2. the main reason for divorce is because men pick women solely based on looks.
3. when the chinese immigrant man in class said that his wife left him, she said "you must have done something wrong!"
i had another female professor who swore up and down that women's lives are harder than men's, and therefore women are more likely to become depressed due to the stresses of "work and motherhood." i guess fathers, having to be the major breadwinner and having to deal with some nagging ameriwench dont have as much stress as women.
i have had 3 nursing instructors ask me why i want to be a nurse. they question my motives because i am male. now i have never observed a woman ask a female student why she wants to be a nurse. nope. i could be the only male in a group of 60 or more women, and i will be the one to be asked. something must be wrong with me if i want to be a nurse. some sinister motive, because only women are sweet, caring, affectionate, empathetic. after all, if women ruled the world, there'd be no war.
of course i shouldnt be complaining. i mean, everyday 1 in 4 women are raped by psychos who force alcohol down their throats.