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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1657317]Exactly. And in those other countries here's what they think about you.[/QUOTE]At least they are fucking you. In the US you are their ATM and you don't get shit for it.
Over there when you wise up you can leave and the ATM is closed. In the US when you leave, it will cost you half of what you own.
Don't assume just because an AW makes her own money she won't try to take as much of yours as she can.
You are nothing more than an income subsidy.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1657022]Here in the US a woman that makes more than you will constantly rub your nose in it. They will tell you how they don't need a man, they have their own money.
They still don't have a problem spending your money.[/QUOTE]This is true. I have experienced this several times and remain a happy bachelor thanks to the abundance of worldwide snatch that trumps anything in the USA Women here think their pussy is made of gold and many don't realize the competition from willing foreign beauties.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1656982]This is the bottom line. Its not about AW being any different from women in other countries. Its AW have FINANCIAL freedom. .[/QUOTE]If financial freedom means taking half my shyt, then yes, they have financial freedom. And I do commend women that earn degrees, and put off family for career. But as we all know, the blue collar man is not good enough for those women. They are waiting for the doctor or lawyer to come along. They see those," Every gift begins with Kay" commercials and see themselves, LOL! When I got laid off from Sony, I took a Wal-Mart job to feed myself rather than take unemployment. The former regional manager for Sports Authority worked with me. Shyt was bad. But when women see you working at the W, your like a buck-toothed idiot. Just a couple years later I was making 125k. F*ck u biatches.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1656982]Secondly as ForceSteeler so eloquently put it. Women in the countries guys rave about. "NEED A MAN FOR SURVIVAL" . And Western men are PERCEIVED as being wealthy.Its not Society that dictates woman don't date men 20 to 30 yrs older. Its NATURE. In those countries guys rave about you RARELY see women who come from financially secure families dating 20 to 30 yr older men. Why is that? . because they don't NEED or want to. And its not NATURAL. Very few financial secure women date men 20 to 30 yrs older. Period. In any country.TG865 keeping it real. Peace.[/QUOTE]Not saying some or all of that isn't true. I don't make the rules I just take advantage of them. Women everywhere are going to need a man a some point, for some reason, even if it's just to lift shyt. That argument is pointless. I do know, however, that those women in other countries know good and well that American men are conditioned from birth to work hard, and know that big trouble is awaiting if they beat them. That's why we are immediately the Alpha male over there. It is natural to f*ck the Alpha male. The fact that you are in their country in the first place means you have enough to travel. Yeah, Mr. E paints an ugly picture. Nobody said you have to marry them.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1657375]At least they are fucking you. In the US you are their ATM and you don't get shit for it.
[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more! I'll take the "Uncle Moneybags Gringo" label any day as long as I am tapping that ass long and strong!
If "tia", "hermana", or "prima" needs some financial assistance then they'd better be ready to drop them panties too. If "madre" or "abuela" are sexy, then they can get the dick as well.
Now, where could you say and pull off the same here in the US?
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Paying for dates
Not to detract from anyone else's experiences, but in my limited experience, I virtually always offer to pay for my AW date's food / movie / entry ticket / etc. In most cases, the girl I'm with usually wants to pay her own way. I actually argue with them to let me pay, and often, I will win this argument only if I agree to let them pay for next time. Or, if I buy dinner, they absolutely insist on paying for the movie or whatever. I've always assumed that she does this because she doesn't want to leave the impression that she "owes" me something or that the outing was / is a romantic one.
So, on the rare occasion that an AW lets me pay, she is sort of acknowledging that the outing is a romantic one and for this reason, it is ok for her to let me pay. If the girl believes we are on a date, then I am more than happy to pay. In my opinion, this cost is a small price for good times, nice company and conversation, even if she doesn't put out. The alternative is to be lonely until my next trip, so the cost of a nice date is rather insignificant, at least for me.
Just my experience. I recognize I may be in a different age bracket than others here and I recognize too that many of us are from different parts of the USA.
Just my experience and thoughts.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1657403]Not to detract from anyone else's experiences, but in my limited experience, I virtually always offer to pay for my AW date's food / movie / entry ticket / etc. In most cases, the girl I'm with usually wants to pay her own way. I actually argue with them to let me pay, and often, I will win this argument only if I agree to let them pay for next time. Or, if I buy dinner, they absolutely insist on paying for the movie or whatever. I've always assumed that she does this because she doesn't want to leave the impression that she "owes" me something or that the outing was / is a romantic one.
So, on the rare occasion that an AW lets me pay, she is sort of acknowledging that the outing is a romantic one and for this reason, it is ok for her to let me pay. If the girl believes we are on a date, then I am more than happy to pay. In my opinion, this cost is a small price for good times, nice company and conversation, even if she doesn't put out. The alternative is to be lonely until my next trip, so the cost of a nice date is rather insignificant, at least for me.
Just my experience. I recognize I may be in a different age bracket than others here and I recognize too that many of us are from different parts of the USA.
Just my experience and thoughts.[/QUOTE]UltraHappy,
This is not rare or infrequent occurrence. Its a common practice for AW to offer to pay. I have had dinner bought for me on several occasions by women.
This thread is more about guys venting their anger at either their lack of success with AW or bitterness towards them from a bad divorce.
America is too large and diverse for anyone to pinpoint how all women act. There are women of every race, nationality, religion, and financial level.
This has more to do with guys who base their relationships with all women on the same level as hookers. Any time or money is spent with a woman, then sex is owed. Period end of story. Regardless, whether no connection was made, its. "I spent, we fuck now" .
So they go to a 3rd world country where needier women can use them for their money. The difference, since she's poorer and needier, its cheaper and she's shows more gratitude since her need is greater. Its the financial security he brings to the table.
They are just going to a place where now they become the "Donald Trump's" of the city. "Poverty and hunger is a hell of a thing".
TG865 peace.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1657484]
This thread is more about guys venting their anger at either their lack of success with AW or bitterness towards them from a bad divorce.
America is too large and diverse for anyone to pinpoint how all women act. There are women of every race, nationality, religion, and financial level.
So they go to a 3rd world country where needier women can use them for their money. The difference, since she's poorer and needier, its cheaper and she's shows more gratitude since her need is greater. Its the financial security he brings to the table.
They are just going to a place where now they become the "Donald Trump's" of the city. "Poverty and hunger is a hell of a thing".
TG865 peace.[/QUOTE]I am just calling it how I experience it. I am giving people my POV from someone who is able to get dates without too much work, but would rather not spend the time jumping through hoops trying to get laid when their are alternate paths of least resistance.
My question to you is what do you get out of trying to sell your angle amongst a board full of veteran world travelers on a hoar board? If you have never gone to another country to pay for ass they you are completely out of your league here. You have no world experience and are just telling your view one-sided (from the North American POV).
If you HAVE paid for pussy in another country, then your statements above (especially the "Donald Trump" quip) makes you the ultimate hypocrite! Who would take anything you say with any seriousness?
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1657484]"I spent, we fuck now" [/QUOTE]Everything in life takes the path of least resistance. Including my dick!
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1657662]I am just calling it how I experience it. I am giving people my POV from someone who is able to get dates without too much work, but would rather not spend the time jumping through hoops trying to get laid when their are alternate paths of least resistance.
My question to you is what do you get out of trying to sell your angle amongst a board full of veteran world travelers on a hoar board? If you have never gone to another country to pay for ass they you are completely out of your league here. You have no world experience and are just telling your view one-sided (from the North American POV).
If you HAVE paid for pussy in another country, then your statements above (especially the "Donald Trump" quip) makes you the ultimate hypocrite! Who would take anything you say with any seriousness?[/QUOTE]You mean on the same boat. I love mongering in the other countries because I don't have to waste money or time on dates and bullshit, In my Mongering Career I have been all over the world and I have fucked over 800 women and counting. And I only been mongering for 4 Years now. The average guy in the USA can't say they fucked over 800 women in 4 years, unless there a Multi-Millionare, Entertainer, Actor, or Athlete. Mongering has change my life it really opens your eyes on your value as a man. Some People may hate and.
Say why spend money on pussy, but at the end of the day. I always tell them, enjoy life for now, in life there is no Part 2, There is no sequel to your life. So enjoy it. At the end of the day, your only going to get old, don't live in regret.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1657662]If you HAVE paid for pussy in another country, then your statements above (especially the "Donald Trump" quip) makes you the ultimate hypocrite! Who would take anything you say with any seriousness?[/QUOTE]I don't recall TG saying do not go overseas to pay for pussy. He has just made an explanation of the male / female dynamics, which holds true damn near anywhere. And I totally agree with him. You see many guys come on here and bash the chicks where they live saying how fat and unattractive they are. Well I'm in Rio right now and I can tell you that there are just as many fat and unattractive women here. This is not a country full of Gisselles. The difference is that the men appreciate the women they have. You will see a handsome guy walking down the street hand in hand with his girlfriend who may be overweight or not the best looking thing out there. But he makes her feel loved and they could give a shit what other people think.
But back to the TG issue. Why do you never see Mayweather or Puff Daddy in Angeles or Sosua? Because they have long money. They are millionaires where they live so they can just walk outside or go to Vegas or Miami and get the baddest chicks they can find. They don't need to go to a third world country to seem rich. If any guy on this board says that if he had the money then he would not do the same then he is a liar. We go places where our money will be long and what we are doing seems the same to the locals as what those other sports figures and musicians doing back home seem to us. I don't see guys on this board planning trips to places like London or Moscow where P4 P is available, but will put a big ass hole in your bank account.
Rio is a perfect example. 10 and 12 years ago the Rio board was hot. But since the currency fucked up you don't see many guys reporting that they went to Rio and did what guys said years ago. The board is pretty dead with the same guys reporting over and over. I for one moved from Rio to Thailand when everything fucked up so I am a living example. I go for regular chicks as well as P4 P because I want to. I'm not about to sit up here and make all kinds of excuses as to why I do P4 P or hang out in third world countries though, (eg. The women back home drove me to with because of their looks or attitude.) A movie ticket costs me $3 in Thailand as opposed to what in Californina? This shit is not brain surgery and it does make sense to go and find chicks where your money will go farther. But denying it makes no sense at all.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1657662]If you HAVE paid for pussy in another country, then your statements above (especially the "Donald Trump" quip) makes you the ultimate hypocrite! Who would take anything you say with any seriousness?[/QUOTE]SavePros,
You are wrong.
I have traveled the world and making my statement doesn't make me a hypocrite. I do not disagree that guys are treated better by women in 3rd world countries. I too partake of their generosity.
But...
I don't bash AW. Just because I can go to a 3rd world country where I'm considered rich, therefore desirable to even young "Poor" women.
I don't expect AW to be as desperate for a man as a 3rd world woman. Western women are at the top of the "Food chain" as far as women go in this world.
They have more rights, freedoms, financial capabilities and safety nets. Therefore with all western women in general, one has to be realistic, if you want the cream of the crop, its a two way street, so do they. They have the freedom to only be with men they have a sexual desire to be with OR also like the 3rd world woman. Improves their status financially or socially. So if you're not a millionaire, that means for the most part. You have to be as desirable to her as she is to you.
Trust me. I know women in other countries treat guys much better than AW. I get that. I am just saying its because of their financial situation because of where they live.
Bring that same woman back to the you. S, Let her get a job, car and friends. See if she is with you 10 yrs down the road. I know so many stories of guys who did just that and got rude awakenings. Many left almost as soon as they got permanent status. So its not that they are better. Its they are needier.
For me the mongering thing is a vacation thing for me. It's like guys who go camping for a couple of weeks. They love the fresh air, woods and fishing. But that doesn't mean they want to live in the woods.
I know the treatment from the women is not because they are just naturally nice to all men and just eager to please. We are walking ATMs for them. But as a vacation / escape from the real world for a couple of weeks. It can't be beat.
TG865 . Peace.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1657719] He has just made an explanation of the male / female dynamics, which holds true damn near anywhere. And I totally agree with him. [/QUOTE]I don't see his or your professional certifications on the subject. This is a pussy forum. I will, however, acknowledge that women used to be treated like crap in this country. When a pendulum swings, it does not stop in the middle, it goes to the opposite side. That opposite side is: women getting custody of our children almost automatically, especially under false accusations from women. Men being portrayed as idiots on TV, (and there's one in almost every home influencing this society), having to go through some dating ritual to get laid. Make prostitution legal in the USA? Women will make sure it does not happen. No man will ever go to a regular chick again.
This ain't about Mayweather or Puffy, who can be taken down much harder by a woman (or their dick in the wrong woman) than ever I could be. If I won lotto, I could get those same women. So what's that say about the woman? TG IS a hypocrite. He has posted about AC pussy, but extolls the virtues of the AW. I got nothing really against them. I just am against the system that has handed the keys to the AW that kicks the AM in the balls.
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Knowing what I know now
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1657719]This is not a country full of Gisselles. But back to the TG issue. Why do you never see Mayweather or Puff Daddy in Angeles or Sosua? Because they have long money. They are millionaires where they live so they can just walk outside or go to Vegas or Miami and get the baddest chicks they can find. They don't need to go to a third world country to seem rich. If any guy on this board says that if he had the money then he would not do the same then he is a liar. We go places where our money will be long and what we are doing seems the same to the locals as what those other sports figures and musicians doing back home seem to us.[/QUOTE]It all depends. You see, if I had acquired long money in the USA before I started mongering, then yeah I would tend to agree with you. But now that I have become a veteran monger, if I hit the lottery tomorrow and became a multimillionaire many times over, knowing what I know now I absolutely would continue to monger overseas. No way would I stop flying all around the world fucking these pretty girls in the ass! Hell, I would do it more! Yeah, I would play more in the States too, but I would continue to monger overseas. Without a doubt I would not stop it. I would do it even more at this stage of my life. And lastly, did you mean full of "gazelles"? Or maybe you meant a bunch of "Gisele Bundchens" strutting around LOL!
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So how many guys here would still be going to PI or DR and saying how great the women are if pussy was $200/ pop?
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Sign me up!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1657786]So how many guys here would still be going to PI or DR and saying how great the women are if pussy was $200/ pop?[/QUOTE]I like to go to the German FKKs where an hour session with anal will cost me 200 or about $250. So yeah, I would. Where do I sign?