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[QUOTE=D Cups]Yes, Booey, even six months with the same conniving broad is way too long for the sexually savvy monger :). Better to mongerwander in foreign lands than to experience the inevitable intense drama and non-stop crying after six months with some sexy east european babe.[/QUOTE]
I've always subscribed to the theory that, "no matter how good looking the woman, there is always some guy out there who is sick of fucking her!"
I need variety, so what if I am a selfish bastard. I want what I want!
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[QUOTE=Booey]I've always subscribed to the theory that, "no matter how good looking the woman, there is always some guy out there who is sick of fucking her!"[/QUOTE]
All too true. Or sick of dealing with her drama, or paying for her follies, or the like.
I guess living my life in the Supermax of Sex Prison (Washington, DC) has me very cynical and not-just-a-little paranoid of non-pro game. I've also seen my share of "Senorita Cartaverde," girls interested in me for the sake of getting a fast-track into the USA - and heard enough horror stories from my friends who got stung by the same.
Perhaps I'd look for "something serious" if I were living, say, in South America; somewhere that my money goes far enough that I could afford to be a sugar-daddy. "Listen, Conchita, we can have this good life [i]here[/i], but I couldn't afford to keep you this way back in the States. If you don't like that, go find someone else - and on your way out, send up that cute chica in the pink bikini, out there on the beach."
(Yeah, I know. That "pink bikini" phrase might get me into the Montevideo newspapers, as the founder of the Pocitos Flying Club.)
Meanwhile, I can make the occasional trip down South; but I am not bringing anyone home to the States with me. Period.
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A technique that has served me well is to not only live in a South American country, but live in one whose citizens are extremely unwelcome in the United States. Thus when they suggest marrying me so they can get my pension when I die, I reply that the marriage would not be recognized (true). When they suggest the fiance visa I tell them a) I will not be financially responsible for their civil and criminal acts and b) the visa will be denied anyway (true). Then they say they will get a tourist visa if I will take them to the US and I say fine, you show me the visa and then I will buy the tickets. Then they ask me if I will pay for the visa and I say no, because the application will just get denied (true).
I think any rational person who carefully reads the obligations he is taking on in going the fiance visa route, would think twice, and then three times, and then four times before doing such a thing. She disappears and robs a bank you are on the hook. She deals drugs you are on the hook. And etc. etc.
I know your sweet little baboo would never do any of those things but maybe some ho would do those things. And maybe your sweet baboo is actually just some ho.
It is much better for Mohammed to go to the mountain than for the mountain to come to Mohammed, if you get my drift.
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[QUOTE=Goga Fung]But this forum/thread is to discuss women/AW. If men have nothing else to discuss except other guy's balls, then no wonder we are getting more and more AW-like women. We deserve it.
Anyways, there is a EE guy in his late 50s is going to bring to USA a 30something(looks like 20+) incredibly hot girl from Ukraine.
What do you think, can it last long once she gets to USA? Right now she seems really into him, can chat for hours on the internet.
I've heard too many stories that it starts like that, but then it changes once she has arrived and get her documents.[/QUOTE]No way in hell, Eastern Europeans are the ones most likely to Westernize and change. Latinas are pretty close behind. Of all the foreign girls, its Asians who tend to be more honest. I have a lot of friends who married foreign women, several married EEs and got screwed over royally. European girls are good for STR, I would never in hell marry one. Asian women on the other hand are more sincere even those from wealthier parts of Asia. One of my friends married a Japanese girl, and he wound up moving to Japan because she wanted him in her country, so it was clear she was not trying to get a visa from him.
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Where is unwelcome?
[QUOTE=Dickhead]A technique that has served me well is to not only live in a South American country, but live in one whose citizens are extremely unwelcome in the United States.[/QUOTE]I didn't know there were "unwelcome citizen" countries. For example, what countries?
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I live in Argentina. Argentineans used to be able to visit the US without even a visa. Then Argentina defaulted on its sovereign debt and ever since then, Argentineans need visas. And, these visa requests are routinely denied. I don't know of any Argentinean who's been able to get a tourist visa since the default. I know a few who have gotten sponsored work visas.
Other countries whose citizens are unwelcome in the US includes Cuba for Christ's sakes. You should get out more, maybe do a little reading.
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Other countries whose citizens are unwelcome in the US includes Cuba for Christ's sakes. You should get out more, maybe do a little reading.[/QUOTE]
I always thought Cuba had the potential to become such a great place to live. Caribbean, tanned latinas, beaches.... to bad the government is such a wreck.
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Actually, according to a friend of mine who works at the US Embassy in Buenos Aires, 87% of Argentine citizens applying for Tourist Visas at the US Embassy in Buenos Aires are approved.
Suerte,
Rock Harders
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Honestly, I wouldn't believe that number even if it came from an official source. But anyway I am talking about getting an unmarried woman who owns no property a visa, which would be the situation we mongers would be looking at. I know a monger whose job it was to approve tourist visas and he (almost) never did for single women because if they WERE to get busted for hooking in the US, it would have been bad for his career. I've known probably ten or twelve guys who've tried to get a visa for an Argentinean woman, and zero have gotten them. Some were hookers and some weren't but most had some semblance of a regular job. Maybe if they owned property it would be different.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead]I live in Argentina. Argentineans used to be able to visit the US without even a visa. Then Argentina defaulted on its sovereign debt and ever since then, Argentineans need visas. And, these visa requests are routinely denied. I don't know of any Argentinean who's been able to get a tourist visa since the default. I know a few who have gotten sponsored work visas.
Other countries whose citizens are unwelcome in the US includes Cuba for Christ's sakes. You should get out more, maybe do a little reading.[/QUOTE]Actually, Cubans have the mystical "touch U.S. soil and get permanent residency" rule.
I know there are plenty of unwelcome countries, but "Dickhead" was saying that even fiance visas and marriages would be rejected. The U.S. makes people jump through hoops, especially for "unwelcome countries", but a legit marriage is not rejected, as far as I know.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead]I don't think DJFTM travels that much. I think he went to Europe once or twice and has been whacking off thinking about it ever since. Not that there's anything wrong with that.[/QUOTE]
Gee thanks... I've been down in Mexico a few times, Canada a few times, all the lower 48 (used to drive Trucks) and yes I've been mmm through Europe. Just once, but I spent the better part of 30 days in Europe.
When I came back, basically my life went down hill and I wasn't completely prepared for it.
If I sold everything I got, I might have enough for RT ticket and some spending cash, but why should I do that?
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[QUOTE=Fox7717]Don't think it's the 'camera angles' plus the camera is VERY close usually.
Also don't think these guys 'tuck their balls' somewhere north in inguinal canal
Still a mystery![/QUOTE]
Dude I live in Porn Valley, its CAMERA ANGLES.
You can bag a porno chick I just don't recommend it. Porn chicks outside of America might be a different story since views about sex outside of Prison are varied if not downright liberal.
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[QUOTE=Australiasucks]A lot of younger Aussies have some weird obsession with America but having spent time and seeing the reality America only looks good compared to a third world country. America compared to other first world nations has a lower standard of living for the vast majority of Americans. I think the average income in the US is a bit higher than that, its more like $36k a year, which is still low, in Australia its $50k a year, and probably similar in richer EU countries. There is a lot of income inequality and despite the economic downturn big execs earn more today in the US than ever before.[/QUOTE]
Average income depends on location but its roughly around $36K, its $52K in California. You are correct about the income disparity top 2% own 98% of the total wealth and 4% earn more than the bottom 90% combined.
Its a return of the robber barons, feudalism or any other analogy you can think of for a shrinking or genocide of the Middle Class.
Real unemployment is 17-18%, its over 20% in major metropolitan areas and in some minority dominated areas is at least 50% and been that way since the middle part of the decade actually.
As much as they don't want to hear it, we will have a double deep recession. All the major banks are still holding on to far too many toxic assets.
It might too early to say this, but even if things turned positive tomorrow, it would be 2015 or so before we're back to "normal" consumption levels.
Everyday they fool around with mickey mouse reform it just delays recovery and this has all the makings of a the same lost decade that Japan experienced in the 90's.
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I could easily think of several dozen countries whose citizens would have a heck of a time with US immigration. Even if a citizen of that country were to marry a US citizen spouse, the immigration authorities would make them jump through hoops. However I have heard of citizens from countries seen as friendly with the US have a hell of a time too. An British friend of mine told me about a really bad experience in LAX where he was mistaken for bank robber from San Diego, I knew another friend who said the INS was pretty nasty with his wife who is Italian.
The real issue is that if that certain someone is a bit too eager to go home with you, they probably are just using you for a visa. I know as a legal resident of Australia, which is a highly sought country for immigrants, I get a lot of attention from foreign girls, but know better than to get used.
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[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]Average income depends on location but its roughly around $36K, its $52K in California. You are correct about the income disparity top 2% own 98% of the total wealth and 4% earn more than the bottom 90% combined.
Its a return of the robber barons, feudalism or any other analogy you can think of for a shrinking or genocide of the Middle Class.
Real unemployment is 17-18%, its over 20% in major metropolitan areas and in some minority dominated areas is at least 50% and been that way since the middle part of the decade actually.
As much as they don't want to hear it, we will have a double deep recession. All the major banks are still holding on to far too many toxic assets.
It might too early to say this, but even if things turned positive tomorrow, it would be 2015 or so before we're back to "normal" consumption levels.
Everyday they fool around with mickey mouse reform it just delays recovery and this has all the makings of a the same lost decade that Japan experienced in the 90's.[/QUOTE]I have a friend who works in real estate over there, he bluntly told me he does not expect a robust return to economic growth until 2016 or even later.
Average American salaries have taken a big hit from the 90s when it was easy to find a high paying job.
The US per capita GDP is around 46k a year but the mean salary is only 35k, tells you something, the distribution of income is very unequal in the US. Australian per capita GDP is around the same as the US estimate but the average income is higher which means there is more equal distribution of income.
Unemployment in Australia is only 5 percent and its a realistic number because Australia tracks its unemployed more thoroughly than the US. US unemployment benefits dry up after 6 months and then anyone who does not find a job after that is not counted anymore.
Also this development does not bode well for the political situation within the US.