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In South America, there are more women than men, this is due to a variety of factors, but South American women are on average more beautiful and friendly than Anglo-European American women. Even the South American women in the US as one poster mentioned are a lot nicer than local US women. Honestly, if you spent one hour on Copacabana beach in Rio De Janeiro, no pipsqueak justification for the general behavior and attitude of American women can hold water, because in less than one hour you will see more gorgeous women than you do in one month in any big cosmopolitan city in the US. I just arrived in Rio for a month long summer vacation and this place is FUCKING AMAZING.
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I've stated this before here: The U.S. is only good for financial gain-college, jobs, etc. For everything else get the fuck out of here!! I just want to add that for me though American women are just so incredibly boring; so predictable!! I think right now that is one of my biggest complaints about the dating scene where I live (Atlanta). I've gotten to the point where just normal interaction with foreign women satifies me (I don't have to have sex with them) because they are so unpredictable I don't know what they are going to do or say and that is one reason I love them so much!!!!
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CBGB:
I couldn't agree more! I was in Rio last year for Carnaval (my posts lurk somewhere around the site) and within six hours of landing, I had my tongue down a model's throat.
Now I'm no Adonis by any stretch of the imagination, but just to be able to interact immediately with carefree, intelligent, SEXY women like that still has me in shock! :-)
Currently I live in Indianapolis (or Indianoplace as everyone else in the US calls it). Last night I was at one of my weekly watering holes, and two beauty school candidates parked their asses right next to me. As soon as they launched into their mindless girl's-night-out prattle, two epiphenies came to light:
* I felt absolutely no desire to engage them in conversation.
* I felt I had finally graduated from American women.
I gotta get my butt back to Brazil again, and soon! Have a great time there, CBGB.
-- L
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Hardbarg,
For conventional dating, typically three dates. I hardly ever spend over $200 on those three dates. If I do blow more money on one date than I like to, I don't hide the fact that the bucks come dear. Often by the third date, she offers to pay. (Yes, you have to know how to handle the conversation. No, it's not a turnoff for an American woman, at least if she's not trying to drain you cash-wise. Of course, I don't date women who can't afford it, or who expect to be taken care of.)
While in the US extracurricular activities are governed by opportunity. I nail about a half-dozed different women a year, and don't keep anything going too long so as not to create suspicion. I think about a month is ideal, maybe three on the outside.
I also keep an eye out for situations that make things easy. I don't get in the shortest checkout lines, I get in one behind a cutie. I strike up conversations in coffee shops. I'm not pushy. I ask them about themselves. I create conversations that let them invite themselves to get in touch with me. When that happens, I slip them a business card (I work at home). I invite them to visit my operation and look at my work. When they show up, I show them around and let them do a few easy things. I find what's good in their approach and compliment them, give them a chance to do some more.
Last week I got a 28 yr. old (v. good bod, above avg. face) to visit, got her into the workshop and nailed her amid the tools on my workbench. She's married, so discretion is important. She knows she has it with me. I'm nearly twice her age, and it would have been tough for me to get her when I was the 'right' age for her.
The key thing about American women is that they live in America. They already have that, you can't offer it to them. They have access to good jobs, you can't buy a hottie unless you've really got gobs of money. If you're good looking, young, and in shape, you can do all right with very little cash. If you're not good looking or young, or in shape, you've got to be a little smarter. But American women don't lose their sex drive just because they live here. Appeal to it and you can do just fine.
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I just re-read my post. I meant to also mention that not all american woman are screwed up, just most of them. Last night I was in a bar here in shanghai that was full of american girls and guys. Like the bars in the us the ratio was all screwed up with two guys for every girl. A few chinese girls, but they were all more westernized since they spoke english.
Like a lot of bars I have been in most of the guys were better looking than me and probably more wealthy. I tried to chat with a few girls, but was blown off almost immediately. I don't really care if a girl isn't interested in me. But you can tell someone so without being mean or giving a big attitude like it cost her a lot of money to open her mouth. The only girl that was even nice to me was a chinese girl that worked for the bar.
But what really gets me when I think back about my experiences in the US, and here is that in the US girls give you the attitude and wont even chat for a few seconds to see if you might have something interesting to say. They make this decision based on a quick glance. They don't even spend a second trying to hear what you might say. They shut you down and nothing you can do will change their minds. I used to get arround this by making certain I showed off my money. That is an expensive way to get attention. But it is what us ordinary guys with access to money have to do. I pity the normal guy that doesn't have cash.
In contrast most of the asian girls I have met in bars are polite. Alot of times they are not interested, but they respectufully and politely say so. They don't get bitchy and mean. Even if they are not interested they mostly take a few seconds to hear what you have to say. I see them treat the chinese guys the same way too so it isn't simply that I am white.
I have never really understood the divergance of what american girls say and do. They all say they want a guy who can talk with them and listen. But when you try to chat unless you are rich and or handsome they won't give you a chance. They say no guys ever try, but go to any bar and watch how many guys go out every weekend and try only to get shot down before he has said more than hello.
My thoughts for today. - Good luck in your hunts gents. Wicked
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Here is a question. How many guys are married on here, and cannot wait until the kids get older to be single again. When I do, I will be moving to one of the "good" places like Thailand or Brazil. Hopefully these american women, who in all actuality are sucking the life out of us, won't affect these places much. Then and only then, I will be able to fully be a monger.
Cheers to the future!
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Smut Villain,
I don't think you're alone, and maybe American women are tougher to deal with than poor third-world women. And, like American men, American women are often overweight to the point that the thought of sex is just labor, or poorly groomed to where they don't interest you.
There are still plenty of do-able American women, though, and you don't have to spend a bundle or be 25 and a bodybuilder yourself to get them in the sack. It works for me. That's all I'm saying. And when I go overseas, I find my cash or my nationality can buy lots of cooze, just like it can for you. But anyone who has dated extensively in Brasil or Honduras or Italy as I have can tell you women are equally crazy to American women in all those countries, if not more so.
American women seem quite nice if you only pick them up for one-nighters, just like foreign women. It's over the long haul that the madness comes out.
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Diggidy,
"a half-dozen different women a year", now thats funny, you had me going there for a minute, almost made a believer. Down in my neck of the woods if I don't f.....k 6 different girls in a month I'm in a bad slump.
Hell when I use to live in the states on occasions I could bang 5-6 girls in a month, but this was a big college town in my younger years.
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Hot Dog:
I notice you didn't answer about batting average.
ba = no. of boinked women/total attempts
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One comment I'd like to say about American women: some of them contradict themselves so much it isn't even funny. God forbid a woman admits to being wrong about ANYTHING! From what I have been reading thanks to the nomarriage dot com site, more and more stuff about the average women is being proven to be true!
MP
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Hi all,
First time poster, moderately-long-time lurker. I sought membership in WSG to get tactical intel on mongering Milwaukee, and it has certainly fulfilled that mission... and at the same time the attitudes made my eyes pop out like an object of Lefty's back-door desire (sorry, inside joke for Milwaukeeans and Lefty lovers). Here is a place where a guy can open those misogynistic (or, if you prefer, pro-male) floodgates without getting slapped or fired. So when I stumbled across this tucked-away forum for us to let loose our true opinions on American Women, I had to dig in.
I'm probably stating the obvious by saying the difference between the local boards and this one is like a carpentry apprenticeship and a judge clerkship. The local boards focus (or SHOULD focus) on specific tools to get the job done. But this board is largely subjective, doesn't really yield any tangible results except rigorous discourse. I would actually be prouder to contribute a useful nugget of info to the local board, but it would be like a toddler with a Playskool toolbench teaching a bunch of master craftsmen.
So I finally decided to throw you all my thoughts (with probable value of less than or equal to $0.02), partly because I selected my member name DemandCurve based on that stubborn economic function. I haven't had many opportunities to "intersect" with the supply curve ladies yet. But with your help and my "vitamin Vs" I'm rising. So it seems everyone agrees, in America for whatever reason there is more demand for pussy than dick. Which is why gay men are on easy street (pun intended) - but only in terms of BA (hardbarg's calculation of boinks/attempts). In every other way, they're quite screwed. Disease, drug addiction, attacks on them.
So I for one am glad that it's not that easy to bag an American woman. Civilian or SW. We men get off on the thrill of the hunt. And I actually think American women have been better in the past 5 years or so... the affect of Cosmo, Sex in the City, all these sort of affirmative action urgings for them to be like men. Score like men, fuck 'm, forget 'm. SO I've actually found it easier to bag a cleaner, smarter woman in clubs and grocery stores and the dog park, all those cliche places you see on Sex in the City where women are told it's OK to pick up a guy and take him home - it's liberated.
Unfortunately for women, they are not wired that way... they want to nest, we want to spread the seed, blah blah. So maybe all this bitchiness we're seeing lately is fallout from those failed attempts to fuck like men. Now they want to bag a husband. Someone brought up a Christian self-help type book that said women should submit to their husbands, sexually and elsewhere... I think women are willing to sacrifice that famed "independence" for stability. Although I disagree with that "Christian" philosophy - it is like slavery and encourages all kinds of problems. Like infidelity in married women, which is on the rise.
BUT (and in closing!) I think women vary from region to region - people have already pointed out at lenght the difference between Western and non-Western women. Even within the U.S. there are huge gaps - supply and demand. In Alaska, women can have their pick. In New York or San Fran, where the gay male pop. is so high, it has become more of a men's market. Whether men are the buyers or sellers in normal non-mongering situations, who's to say? I definitely feel like part of the demand for SWs, but strangely part of the supply for civilians (I'm 26, college degree, job, in shape, whatever). I find it a turn off when women fawn over me, like some of you guys seem to like it - make me meals, hang on my every word, basically suck up to me. It's that thrill of the hunt that gets me in the car at night. And that male sense of competition! You guys make it look so easy!
OK, that's more than $0.02, thank you for letting me share your forum. Feedback is welcome, of course.
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Demand Curve,
your name suggests you're a sexual economist at heart! LOL
I didn't agree 100% with what you said, but a lot of it made sense. MY beef is mostly that in the past, I treated American women with respect, listened to what they had to say (I mean actually LISTENED instead of instantaneously tuning them out while thinking: "I wonder if they're real?") and didn't treat them like I was a sabre-toothed tiger eyeing an unsuspecting gazelle on a grassy prehistoric plain. What did I get for my efforts? LOTS of disinterested chicks at best and double-speaking manipulative b****es at worst. I USED to wanna find a chick, fall in love, settle down and get married. After doing a LOT of analysis and considering what I'd be getting myself into, I say FUCK THAT! Now, I'm just out to nail a chick and like a vampire, escape before the light of dawn. I guess I'm saying that I haven't stopped HUNTING, but the target has changed. Find 'em, Fuck 'em, FORGET 'em!
To humorously illustrate my point, a coworker told me about some scribbling on a restroom wall on the Jersey Turnpike. This shit should be FRAMED like the Constitution! It said: "I'm tired of fucking the same woman EVERY DAY". Welcome to the wonderful institution of marriage, guys!
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Hardbarg,
Batting average is hard to compute - what constitutes a 'try'?
If you mean going as far as starting to chat a woman up, really poor. If you mean asking her to have a cup of coffee and a chocolate torte so we can continue a conversation, much higher.
If you mean after the cuppa joe and a second (more traditional)
date, about 2/3.
Panama Jack,
If you can get that much without paying, you're the master and I want to study with you ... if you are talking about paying for it, and/or living in a city with no live-in or wedded bliss, well, that's not difficult.
I'm just an ordinary guy who likes to undress pretty women and who doesn't have the economic wherewithall or youth or good looks to make it as easy as it once was. I've found a way that works -- Not acting like I'm hunting while I'm hunting, talking while looking in a girls eyes and not at her tits, and keeping her on the side for a few months until I feel the excitement starting to fade.
I just got back from an extended weekend with a very hot lady,
she took me to her husband's cabin on a small lake -- screwing in the hammock, naked swims at dawn, and one try in a canoe (sort of a gag -- no, it doesn't really work well, and we didn't try standing up). We're in our third month and we're not cooling yet, and there's no sign of bitchiness or dullness or insanity.
But I'm not the one who'se married to her.
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Diggidy,
Its not that hard to screw 6 girls a month when you live in Panama, and you travel to colombia often, and yes for free especially if you speak the language and know the culture.
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I firmly believe the problem with American Women is that there is too much religion in the US. There is a strong relationship between the stength of religion in a country and and how easy for get laid.
Try to get laid in religious , consertvative countries in the Middle East. Or compare Catholic Ireland with more secular Britain. The US is a religious country founded by puritans and little has changed up to now.
I realise this a site dedicated to the hobby but I think it is important point to make in this forum.
Peace