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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1622154]
Did you establish the parameters of the relationship before you jumped into it? Or did both parties assume the other party wanted the same relationship rules as they did themselves? Many problems can be avoided by simple communication, but the thought of being able to get some pussy clouds most mens' brains.[/QUOTE]So, now you are a shrink, E? Or some kind of wannabe counselor? Good luck with that. Geez.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1622215]And where is this paradise?[/QUOTE]I would like to know that myself. Sounds like my kind of place.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1622281]I would like to know that myself. Sounds like my kind of place.[/QUOTE]Chicago it's not a paradise. You can place an add in the Polish papers to rent out a room and literally get an applicant every day. The younger and hotter, the more trouble you can expect. The most important rule is to state clearly no other men are to enter the apartment. For the record, I'm not making a comparison between dogs and Polish women. I'm only stating another companionship alternative. All divorced older Polish men do this and some American guys also if they can find the right person. I probably met close to a hundred women over a tree year period before I was willing to accept somebody. No sex in the beginning but eventually they will be the ones begging you for it.
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Census: Marriage rate at 93-year low, even including same-sex couples
I guess men are starting to get that marriage benefits no one except the woman:
BY PAUL BEDARD
September 18,2014
10:12 AM
The Census Bureau reported Thursday that the nation's marriage rate is the lowest since 1920, and the first-time inclusion of same sex married couples did little to reverse the decline.
According to Pew Research Center analysis, the marriage rate of Americans 18 and older hit a bottom of 50.3 percent in 2013, down from 50.5 percent in 2012. In 1920, the first year mentioned, 65 percent were married, and the marriage rate hit a high of 72.2 percent in 1960.
The new data did not put a number on the homes hosting same-sex married couples, though the Census last year estimated there were 182,000 households headed by gay couples.
While a big number, Pew noted that it compares with 56 million "headed by opposite-sex married couples," and that such a small percentage won't have a big impact on the overall marriage rate.
[URL]http://washingtonexaminer.com/census-marriage-rate-at-93-year-low-even-including-same-sex-couples/article/2553600[/URL]
Best comment from the comments section of the article:
[BLUE]"Spent my twenties focusing on foundation of good career and financial independence. I was a "good guy" (which I'm very proud of being). The ladies preferred the bad boys. Now in my thirties things have changed and I am approached quite often, unfortunately. The issue is it is almost always by divorced / single mothers or the ex-party-girl. I'm sorry, but I'm not interested in raising some other mans kid or being the sucker who settles for a used car with high mileage and old luggage in the trunk. I didn't work hard to get where I am for your benefit. At this point trying to filter out the garbage is just too time consuming to bother.
So the plan is never getting married, no kids, retire as early as possible and just enjoy my life to the fullest."[/BLUE]
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[QUOTE=Riina;1622578]Chicago it's not a paradise. You can place an add in the Polish papers to rent out a room and literally get an applicant every day. The younger and hotter, the more trouble you can expect. The most important rule is to state clearly no other men are to enter the apartment. For the record, I'm not making a comparison between dogs and Polish women. I'm only stating another companionship alternative. All divorced older Polish men do this and some American guys also if they can find the right person. I probably met close to a hundred women over a tree year period before I was willing to accept somebody. No sex in the beginning but eventually they will be the ones begging you for it.[/QUOTE]Spent a year running around there when I was in the Navy. Had a married chick with a hot body I was banging on the North side and a former model I was banging on the South side. Ah, to be young again-sigh. Yeah, when I rented my 3 BR house I had 3 very sweet things apply. I had visions of sex-for-rent and was visually doing doggie style the entire time they were talking to me. Then the reality bubble set in. Reality is that hot pussy always has many dogs sniffing around and fighting over it, not to mention parties, late paying rent and eventually-babies. I sent them on their way and rented to a mature couple.
Friend, now I'm confused as ever as to your whole scene goin on over there, but if it works for you enjoy it pal. I thought you were referring to some Eastern bloc mecca where women actually put up with American bullshyt for the promise of a green card.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1622665]Best comment from the comments section of the article:[BLUE]"I'm sorry, but I'm not interested in raising some other mans kid or being the sucker who settles for a used car with high mileage and old luggage in the trunk. So the plan is never getting married, no kids, retire as early as possible and just enjoy my life to the fullest."[/BLUE][/QUOTE]Actually, the point is sort of missed in that quote. You still bang them, then move on to the next. Heck, once they realize your not committing, they will move on.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1622665]I guess men are starting to get that marriage benefits no one except the woman:[/QUOTE]It's not just the men, it's also the American woman that has become fiercely independent. It's admirable but I feel they have become to guarded in life.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1622678]Friend, now I'm confused as ever as to your whole scene goin on over there, but if it works for you enjoy it pal. I thought you were referring to some Eastern bloc mecca where women actually put up with American bullshyt for the promise of a green card.[/QUOTE]Buddy,
That day is long gone. EE's in the motherland or West have evolved into opportunists that play the system strictly for their own self benefit. Seems are options have dwindled to choosing the strong willed independent American girl summarized all so well by the be word or we can choose the EE gold digger whose sole purpose is to extract everything from you wallet.
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[QUOTE=Riina;1622685]It's not just the men, it's also the American woman that has become fiercely independent. It's admirable but I feel they have become to guarded in life.[/QUOTE]Instead of marriage. People are merely living together, there is no taboo about shacking any longer.
So the only true difference it makes is when it comes to Alimony / Palimony.
And yes. Actually in the USA Women will probably be doing much better than men. As more women are getting college degrees than men now.
This is partly what contributes to some men's problem with AW. Because. AW do not have to settle or put up with a man that they feel doesn't fit their needs. Fewer need a man for financial support as in other countries, especially compared to women from 3rd world countries.
[URL]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/in-a-first-women-surpass-men-in-college-degrees/[/URL]
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Sex-for-rent is fairly common in all large cities with high rents. It comes with all of the downsides that NG mentioned. Plus, it is a legal minefield. Once you stick your schmekel in her hole she is instantly transformed from tenant to domestic partner. Things get really complicated after that if she decides that was sufficient compensation for lodging and cuts off or severely limits pussy access. If you try to evict her she could file a restraining order on you by alleging abuse. Now you're out of your nice house but still paying the bills. The hot pussy is living rent-free shagging young hipsters in your bed while the courts set a date in the future to figure out what really happened. Do you really want to tell the judge that this was all a terrible mistake, she is not your live-in girlfriend just a sex-for-rent tenant? Either way, the outcome doesn't look good.
The sex-for-rent scheme is easy to implement because a lot of low income and immigrant women offer it, but it is high-risk from a legal point of view. Guys that go for such arrangements are the sort that would buy stock in Alibaba's IPO or engage in base jumping. It can be potentially rewarding if it works out but the consequences of failure are catastrophic.
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So ladies, along with your fancy degree, lets ditch these double standards.
Lets ditch the double standard that the beer gut is a turn off, but being a size 22 is a BIG BEAUTIFUL WOMAN.
Lets ditch the double standard that my life won't be happy unless I sacrfice myself to keep her happy, no matter what she does, or does NOT do for me.
Lets ditch the damned whining about equal pay when your comparing a male doctors to female housekeepers salary.
And in this highly charged domestic violence atmosphere, lets ditch the fucking double standard that if she slaps the shyt out of you in the face like a g damned man, she can't be hit back like one! Dude, you really need to cut off your balls and turn in your man card.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1622962]And in this highly charged domestic violence atmosphere, lets ditch the fucking double standard that if she slaps the shyt out of you in the face like a g damned man, she can't be hit back like one! Dude, you really need to cut off your balls and turn in your man card.[/QUOTE]I know it was wrong but I have to say I can understand.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1622922] Actually in the USA Women will probably be doing much better than men. As more women are getting college degrees than men now.
This is partly what contributes to some men's problem with AW. Because. AW do not have to settle or put up with a man that they feel doesn't fit their needs. Fewer need a man for financial support as in other countries, especially compared to women from 3rd world countries.
[/QUOTE]Good! I'm happy for them. Too bad they are not just as happy:
[B]Why Are So Many Professional Millennial Women Unable To Find Dateable Men?[/B]
FORBESWOMAN 12/05/2012 @ 11:50AM
Larissa Faw
Contributor
"My Millennial-aged girl friends and I never doubted that we would accomplish all of our life goals. Everything, thus far, has pretty much gone according to our plans. We were accepted into the right college, landed the dream job, and developed a network of amazing friends. Our apartments are beautifully decorated and we have closets full of stylish clothing. Romance hasn't been entirely sidelined, but we don't waste our time trying to cultivate a relationship unless someone is really amazing.
But now, a growing number of Millennial women are beginning to fret over the unanticipated consequences of prioritizing our careers before love. And I only need to look at my group of friends to see this reality. Again and again, year after year, my successful, gorgeous, and amazing friends remain kiss-less on New Year's Eve. And on Valentine's Day. And on the 4th of July. The only dateable men we encounter are either attached, gay, or otherwise involved in "it's complicated" situations. We are coming to the realization that we were unwittingly playing a game of musical chairs while everyone was pairing up, those focused on our careers are left standing alone.
And we can't figure out what is happening.
"I don't think the issue is that men used to be great and now they're not," says Jezebel's Katie J. M. Baker. "Women used to feel more pressure to get married and have kids earlier, and prioritize those goals above the others. " Add to that women's ability now to be self-sufficient financially and supported socially by so many friends in the same boat, it shouldn't be that surprising so many Millennial women are single. Except to us singletons, it isn't supposed to be this way.
When it comes to romance, Millennial women are typically described using several broad strokes that don't reflect nuance or contradictions. We are the hook-up generation. We are afraid of commitment. We are ball-busters or fairy-tale dreamers. Each clich may have elements of truth, but the fuller story is a result of several influencing and interconnected factors.
For one, it's not as if we are holding out for Jake Gyllenhaal, but we do have certain non-negotiable expectations for potential mates that include college degrees and white-collar jobs. Life has always gone according to our plans, so why wouldn't we land a man with these (reasonable) requirements?
This unwillingness to settle for less than we think we deserve is joined by a lax attitude towards searching for potential mates. We're busy dominating the world. We don't have time to hang out at bars. While some of us explore online dating or take a more proactive approach, the majority of Millennial women have long assumed we would meet Prince Charming via friends, or through their own social circles. "Why should we waste our precious time and energy unless we meet someone we really connect with and care about?" asks Baker. "I think it's great that Millennial women are picky and don't feel as much pressure to be in monogamous relationships as did previous generations. I do think all Millennials, not just women, are used to the idea of being able to 'curate' experiences that's why so many people are into online dating, because you can pick and choose character traits and that makes people wary about settling down, especially when, in a city like New York, there are so many options. ".
Unfortunately these assumptions bump up against the growing inequality between the two genders. Millennial women have taken it for granted that they will pair up with equal partners. But increasingly, there aren't enough of these men to go around. Women now outnumber men on college campuses, and single, childless women out earn their male counterparts. In fact, as author Liza Mundy writes in her book, The Richer Sex, Millennial women are increasingly finding two options when it comes to romance: marry down or don't marry. "There needs to be a cognitive behavior change in what are considered important traits," says Mundy. "I talk to so many women who are obsessed with finding men on their level. They want someone as ambitious, engaged, and high-achieving as they are. They maybe need to rethink that to seek a partner who is supportive, rather than competitive. ".
Full Article: [URL]http://www.forbes.com/sites/larissafaw/2012/12/05/why-are-so-many-professional-millennial-women-unable-to-find-dateable-men/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1623018]Good! I'm happy for them. Too bad they are not just as happy:[/QUOTE]The article states they are having a hard time finding a man they want. But no where does it say they are not HAPPY.
Just [B] they are having a hard time finding the man of their dreams [/B] college degree, white collar, willing to accept them as an equal.
Even with that. I don't see them going back to the "1950's" type of woman.
Many of the complaining guys seek. The "agree with what I say, Fuck me, clean the house and be happy for that. If it don't work out. Leave with only the clothes on your back and don't let the door hit you in the ass". Type of woman.
3rd world woman are still the [B]DEPENDENT[/B] type with very little means of supporting themselves beyond basic needs. . And perceive western men as rich. So of course guys get treated good.
If they bring the women get to the USA And if given the opportunity to learn how to earn a decent wage. Then many leave these same guys.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1621899]....... He said in America a woman's biggest fear is that you don't want to fuck them. Once that happens they realize they have no more power over you and you have the power.
....[/QUOTE]Applies to Canadian women as well. As soon as I realized that I could fuck a never ending stream of different beautiful young women, for a small fee compaired to what my 50+ year old 50+ pounds overweight wife was costing me, she lost all power over me and it was all over for us then.
Now in the Philippines having spend a month with an 18 year old beauty, got her cherry and will be moving on in another couple months to find another one.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1623046] they are having a hard time finding the man of their dreams college degree, white collar, willing to accept them as an equal..[/QUOTE]And many a good hard-working blue collar man is perceived as unworthy by these unrealistic princess bearers of Master degrees. The handsome, white collar Anglo is too busy fucking everything before he is ready to settle down, if he really has any brains. Hell, they're even selling sperm. When women stop listening to their friends, start running out of eggs at age 30, then the plumber and bus driver starts looking good enough. And if not, now they're having kids alone and becoming lesbians. This is the new American household.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1623046]Many of the complaining guys seek. The "agree with what I say, Fuck me, clean the house and be happy for that. If it don't work out. Leave with only the clothes on your back and don't let the door hit you in the ass". Type of woman...[/QUOTE]Guilty. Actually I don't let it get that far by moving them in or putting a ring on it.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1623046]3rd world woman are still the [B]DEPENDENT[/B] type with very little means of supporting themselves beyond basic needs. . And perceive western men as rich. So of course guys get treated good...[/QUOTE]So. Ignorance= Bliss. God bless them.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1623046]
If they bring the women get to the USA And if given the opportunity to learn how to earn a decent wage. Then many leave these same guys.[/QUOTE]Many of them have advanced degrees without the femi-nazi mindset, and only want a good guy. They just run into obstacles in their own country (have to fuck to get a job, nepotism, tribalism) and are very appreciative of a man that lifts their life.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1623046]The article states they are having a hard time finding a man they want. But no where does it say they are not HAPPY.
Just [B] they are having a hard time finding the man of their dreams [/B] college degree, white collar, willing to accept them as an equal.
[/QUOTE]Read the comments section of the article and you will understand why white collar men are not looking for white collar women. This one pretty much sums up the majority of responses:
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"Hello, and thank you for the great article. I think the article itself contains at least some answers to the question posed. Being overconfident, overly ambitious and otherwise "fabulous" is not attractive to men; not to straight men anyway. A man wants to date a woman, not another successful, clean-cut, well dressed, well groomed man. No, this doesn't mean she has to be in the kitchen all day, but more and more guys and more and more articles all around the web talk about the importance of women being feminine and nurturing.
A woman whose main goal in life is getting that corner office, and who radiates the energy of a male stock broker when she walks around is not a turn on sensually or sexually to men.
Being "too picky" is nothing but self defense mechanism to make oneself feel more at peace with not meeting and not connecting with men.
Surely many or most guys out there, at least at some stage in their life, want to just have sex with as many women as possible for as little time as possible, and some guys never outgrow that stage. But the other men those who are interested in settling are not looking for a business partner or an employee. They are looking for a mother to their future children, a soft hand, a soft voice and a few other grossly underrate traditional qualities that can go hand in hand with education, and at least some careers. "
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I (SavePros) work a so-called "white collar" job with women who make just as much as me, if not more. All these broads around the office talk about is when and where the next "happy hour" is happening, and hitting the club Wednesday-Saturday. I remember back in my Navy days how we used to joke and brag about getting "wasted" over the weekend, but to hear my 23 yr old female coworker brag about getting "fucked up" sound so damn trashy. Who would want to marry a broad who can drink him under the table and is in the club every weekend?
And like Naked Gunz has mentioned: (for a woman) that biological clock is always ticking:
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz;1623329]When women stop listening to their friends, start running out of eggs at age 30, then the plumber and bus driver starts looking good enough.
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It's so funny how when I log into Plenty of Fish I am bomb-rushed by a slew of 28-35 yr old women who have NOW decided that they "don't want to be a h0e no moe" and are now looking to settle down. But they are all damaged goods at that point. Once, sometimes twice divorced; 1-3 kids to take care of, overweight, and an emotional wreck. And some of them (the more attractive ones) still don't learn. I had one chick who I had met on the website and talked to briefly over the phone later that evening (a Friday evening). She had to end the call once she picked up her daughter from school. She calls me back later that night while on her way to the club after leaving her daughter with a babysitter. She went out of her way to let me know that she was wanting to return my call from earlier that day, as if that was somehow going to earn her extra points with me for being "thoughtful" as she headed to the club for the night, lmao!
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1623343]I (SavePros) work a so-called "white collar" job with women who make just as much as me, if not more. [/QUOTE]SavePros. I agree with much you say. I am not saying there are a lot of men are attracted to this type of woman. Just that is a choice they have made and while many regret the "maternal" aspect of their lives. I doubt many would reverse their decisions. You don't see many lowering their sites and marrying blue collar guys.
I am saying I can understand their reluctance to want to deal with a man who is not on their level. I travel, have had a ton of 3rd world women, but I too find it hard to consider one for a long term relationship. I can't have a conversation on anything of substance, forget anything remotely worldly. Most think purely on a emotional level. And then the age difference puts an even bigger gap of knowledge between us. I'm sure there are guys who are happy with, just young, dumb and full of cum types. But for me. I like to be able to hold a conversation about things above an elementary level.
3rd world women, even with Advanced degrees. If not given the opportunity to use it to its fullest. Will still have that dependent nature. It reinforces that dependency even more. Since they did the schooling and still can't make it on their own.
But you will notice most (of course there are always exception) 3rd world women who have money, that come from wealthy families. Do not tend to date foreigners or if they do. They are the same guys that AW would date. Age appropriate, in shape. And well off too.
This show that [B]no matter where a woman is from .. if she knows she is financially capable[/B] . She will most likely not be the "Do as I say" type that most on here who complain about AW, aspire to find.
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And now I see where Texas Rangers' manager Ron Washington quit his millions of dollars per year job because he got some strange pussy. How does that make sense?
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1623343]
It's so funny how when I log into Plenty of Fish I am bomb-rushed by a slew of 28-35 yr old women who have NOW decided that they "don't want to be a h0e no moe" and are now looking to settle down. But they are all damaged goods at that point. Once, sometimes twice divorced; 1-3 kids to take care of, overweight, and an emotional wreck. And some of them (the more attractive ones) still don't learn. I had one chick who I had met on the website and talked to briefly over the phone later that evening (a Friday evening). She had to end the call once she picked up her daughter from school. She calls me back later that night while on her way to the club after leaving her daughter with a babysitter. She went out of her way to let me know that she was wanting to return my call from earlier that day, as if that was somehow going to earn her extra points with me for being "thoughtful" as she headed to the club for the night, lmao![/QUOTE]For Black women the search is even harder because attractive Black women are extremely high maintenance and material (nails, weaves, shoes, BMW or Mercedes, designer this and that) so them finding a brother with $, advanced degrees that puts up with their shyt is needle in a haystack probability. I had an attractive mid-thirties Physician APPROACH ME on an online site. She called and immediately started attacking me:
She: What kind of degree do you have?
Me: Bachelors. (I lied, I have an AS).
She: THAT's LIKE A GED now days! How many kids do you have?
Me: One. (That's true)
She: I bet your lying and I bet five!
Me: And why the fuck did you call?
She: Click! Dial tone. I was so in shock, I didn't have a chance to comeback on that bytch. Yeah, I love American women.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1623365]For Black women the search is even harder because attractive Black women are extremely high maintenance and material (nails, weaves, shoes, BMW or Mercedes, designer this and that) so them finding a brother with $, advanced degrees that puts up with their shyt is needle in a haystack probability. I had an attractive mid-thirties Physician APPROACH ME on an online site. She called and immediately started attacking me:
She: What kind of degree do you have?
Me: Bachelors.
She: THAT's LIKE A GED now days! How many kids do you have?
Me: One.
She: I bet your lying and I bet five!
Me: And why the fuck did you call?
She: Click! Dial tone. I was so in shock, I didn't have a chance to comeback on that bytch. Yeah, I love American women.[/QUOTE]My experience on POF. She messaged me. We talked on phone a couple times, went on a happy hour date.
First problem, photo's on her profile were dated. Did not show the additional 15 lbs.
Second issue, her 45 minute rant about her ex'es.
By that time I had enough and I told her nicely that I don't think were compatable.
She asked my name again and then lit into me. I thought I was to good for her. I was mad cause I couldn't get it on the first date.
She should of known I was just another loser.
I got the bill and paid my half.
I had enough of her shit so I told her the reason I can't see her is because I am on my way to Thailand and over there, even the guys are hotter than you. I left her at the table not knowing she would be paying her half of the check.
That is why I don't bother anymore.
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American women must be #1 as the worst kind of women to date, not only do they think they are the best, but they are usually fat asses on top of it.
West Europe comes in 2nd imo and is not tied with american women as 'the worst' for the simple fact that they are not total fat asses, it's tough to find obesity on the scale of america here. They are pretty stuck up here tho.
South Americans are the most fun to be around and have the best bodies (I. E. Normal bodies), but at 30+ they seem to blow up as well.
Asia doesn't do anything for me as I never found asians attractive, and are boring as hell to be around. It's like talking to a wall.
Africans can be very attractive, but for some reason the african immigrants in europe are almost on the same level as the natives. They think they are something special (which like all women, they are not). You can find a $20 african hooker on the street and she will think she is gd's gift to planet earth.
So I guess really #1 is south america, most open, most fun, most attractive(bonus points to brazil/argentina/venzuela/colombia). Africa I have to travel to more, i've only been there once.
My 2 cents after. Damn. 15 years of mongering already, and an expat for 10.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1623375]That is why I don't bother anymore.[/QUOTE]Dating sites used to be cool, but are designed pretty much now to squeeze money from you (buying credits to read email, sending you pics of their hottest members to entice you, fake alerts to make you think "She wants to meet you! Now their angle is just short of actual porn by having pics of naked women that are in your area and want to fuck. Hell, just use CL or Backpage.
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My 2 cents after. Damn. 15 years of mongering already, and an expat for 10.[/QUOTE]Have not done Europe since my Navy days waaaaaay back in the day. Not impressed then except for Amsterdam, and I want to go to Germany for the obvious reasons.
Africans are best in they're own country, but they get clingy fast. African women also fall off a cliff after 30. I assume because off the diet. Heavy with meat and carbs only. They gain weight and start dressing like old women. Most women in developing nations don't know shyt about diet and exercise.
I actually think Asian women can be very hot. Asian diet can be very healthy except for the bombardment of rice and other carbs, so they look good for a long time. I used to work with many Lao women in San Diego and they put the Viet, Chinese and Pinay workers there to shame everyday.
Latinas are my favorite. Very sexy women. I started learning Spanish just to get to know them better in my travels South. Just too bad some of their countries are so dangerous.
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[QUOTE=Jon32;1623504]American women must be #1 as the worst kind of women to date, not only do they think they are the best, but they are usually fat asses on top of it.
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Africans can be very attractive, but for some reason the african immigrants in europe are almost on the same level as the natives. They think they are something special (which like all women, they are not). You can find a $20 african hooker on the street and she will think she is gd's gift to planet earth..[/QUOTE]Agreed that on average AW have more tonnage than women elsewhere. However some cities like New York and Chicago have very attractive AW. The problem is the shitty attitude. The attitude is almost mercenary. It's gets toned down if they perceive you have money or are a sports star. But you are at the mercy of the legal system once you sign on the dotted line. The older ones are worse and are very jaded. Good luck with the girls if you are not a Brad Pitt look alike.
Immigrants from anywhere in the world acquire the attitude of the AW and Western European women as soon as the plane touches ground. Unless you keep them in a dungeon and block all cable channels (especially Oprah), you will have the same issues as the AW or her European sister. Lesson here: don't get married to an AW and don't try to import. Robin William's Philippino 2nd ex wife is an object lesson. It's believed the he killed himself partly due to the pressures of child support and alimony payments. Beware fellows!
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1623365]For Black women the search is even harder because attractive Black women are extremely high maintenance and material (nails, weaves, shoes, BMW or Mercedes, designer this and that) so them finding a brother with $, advanced degrees that puts up with their shyt is needle in a haystack probability. I had an attractive mid-thirties Physician APPROACH ME on an online site. She called and immediately started attacking me:
She: What kind of degree do you have?
Me: Bachelors. (I lied, I have an AS).
She: THAT's LIKE A GED now days! How many kids do you have?
Me: One. (That's true)
She: I bet your lying and I bet five!
Me: And why the fuck did you call?
She: Click! Dial tone. I was so in shock, I didn't have a chance to comeback on that bytch. Yeah, I love American women.[/QUOTE]These biotches have more baggage than United Airlines. You're better off without them.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1623566]I actually think Asian women can be very hot. Latinas are my favorite. Very sexy women. I started learning Spanish just to get to know them better in my travels South. Just too bad some of their countries are so dangerous.[/QUOTE]NG, you sound a lot like me. I'm learning Spanish for the same reason. Maybe we can wing it sometime. I'll be in Manila, Cebu, Dumaguete and AC in November. Sosua, Santo Domingo and Santiago for the big, big boobs in January. Back to Manila then Bali then Jakarta then Cebu Oct-Nov 2015. Regards.
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[QUOTE=DCups;1623644]NG, you sound a lot like me. I'm learning Spanish for the same reason. Maybe we can wing it sometime. I'll be in Manila, Cebu, Dumaguete and AC in November. Sosua, Santo Domingo and Santiago for the big, big boobs in January. Back to Manila then Bali then Jakarta then Cebu Oct-Nov 2015. Regards.[/QUOTE]Awww, your just bragging, LOL! Those Makati hoes want 4 k! Try Subic (a little sweeter girls and waay less BF). I'd be happy to be your wingman, but I'm in an engineering class for the next YEAR!. The school, however, should guarantee unfettered mongering for the rest of my life. After ten years on the road I'm stuck in the states in Seattle, and dating prospects look bleak. One possibility is that one of my classmates wife is Asian and owns a nail shop. You know what that means, lots of poontang running around up in there! I will keep up with your posts.
Congrats on 1000 posts BTW. I have been on here ten years and not broken 700. Too many isolated locations and government computers.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1623707]Awww, your just bragging, LOL! Those Makati hoes want 4 k! Try Subic (a little sweeter girls and waay less BF). I'd be happy to be your wingman, but I'm in an engineering class for the next YEAR!. The school, however, should guarantee unfettered mongering for the rest of my life. After ten years on the road I'm stuck in the states in Seattle, and dating prospects look bleak. One possibility is that one of my classmates wife is Asian and owns a nail shop. You know what that means, lots of poontang running around up in there! I will keep up with your posts.
Congrats on 1000 posts BTW. I have been on here ten years and not broken 700. Too many isolated locations and government computers.[/QUOTE]Thanks and good luck in class, NG. I'm in Sacramento. Ya, I've been to Subic and lived in AC in the 80's.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1623707] One possibility is that one of my classmates wife is Asian and owns a nail shop. You know what that means, lots of poontang running around up in there![/QUOTE]And what country is this you're talking about that has. How did you say it. "Lots of poontang running up in there" .
I knew. You Knew. The real deal. Thanks NG and happy hunting.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1623566]Latinas are my favorite. Very sexy women. I started learning Spanish just to get to know them better in my travels South. Just too bad some of their countries are so dangerous.[/QUOTE]Me too!
NG and D Cups.
I have learned Spanish and have mongered exclusively in South America. There is a much higher proportion of attractive sexy women there than in North America or Western Europe. I urge you to continue learning Spanish, as well as to learn some history and culture of the region. Knowing even just a little about the Spanish Colonial era, the liberation by Simon Bolivar, foods like arepas, and of course music and dance, will go a VERY long way with impressing Latinas.
The countries in South America are not much more dangerous as a whole that the US or UK. There are some cities where there is more violence than average, but even in those cities a person and tourist can avoid all of it. In general, if you don't mess with drugs or weapons the worst you will deal with is pick-pockets. The serious danger is from corrupt police or government officials who are connected to organized crime. And that is most prevalent in Venezuela. I don't recommend going there.
As for marriage material, we men still need to be very careful. Latinas, and non-America women generally, have their own type of baggage. It is just different from AW baggage. For example, I dated a Colombiana for a year several years ago. A big problem that developed for me was about money. She, and lower income people generally, know how to *spend* money carefully, but not *manage* money carefully. I am not rich and must save for my mongering trips. She had no concept of saving for anything. She would spend ALL of her cash on hand on things she needed TODAY. The fact that she will have needs TOMORROW that she may have to satisfy with cash she had TODAY never entered her mind. The concept of foregoing a MINOR need TODAY in order to meet a MAJOR need TOMORROW was completely foreign to her. In talking to her about it I realized it would take YEARS for her to lengthen her time horizon and change her decision making regarding money. In the meantime, she might burn through my life savings in weeks!
Anyway, enjoy the Latinas when you get there!
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[QUOTE=George90;1624134]A big problem that developed for me was about money. She, and lower income people generally, know how to *spend* money carefully, but not *manage* money carefully. I am not rich and must save for my mongering trips. She had no concept of saving for anything. She would spend ALL of her cash on hand on things she needed TODAY. The fact that she will have needs TOMORROW that she may have to satisfy with cash she had TODAY never entered her mind. The concept of foregoing a MINOR need TODAY in order to meet a MAJOR need TOMORROW was completely foreign to her. In talking to her about it I realized it would take YEARS for her to lengthen her time horizon and change her decision making regarding money. In the meantime, she might burn through my life savings in weeks![/QUOTE]That mentality certainly exists among American women. My two friends that got divorced broke their backs for twenty years only to realize they saved nothing. Both couldn't take being dissed and treated like mules.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1623975]And what country is this you're talking about that has.[/QUOTE]The salon is Thai. So Thailand! Thanks for the encouragement.
[QUOTE=George90;1624134]"The serious danger is from corrupt police or government officials who are connected to organized crime...." "As for marriage material, we men still need to be very careful..." [/QUOTE]I used to be a contractor for the State Dept. And listened to the guys talk about how they were kidnapped and taken to the ATM, another was shot. These two incidents were in Colombia. I also did not like the thuggish atmosphere in DR. Panama is cool though. Spirit of adventure puts me on the plane, and I still go. My usual M. O. Is to get in, stay low, do my dirty and get out. I do that for all countries. That way your not on the crooks radar, and not there long enough for women to get their hooks in you.
[QUOTE=Riina;1624145]My two friends that got divorced broke their backs for twenty years only to realize they saved nothing. .[/QUOTE]I would not truly blame that totally on a spouse. The greedy corporations are not paying a living wage across the board to the middle class. I made more in the nineties' than what they are offering now. But yeah, as I mentioned before here, my ex was not hurting for clothes and shoes. She murdered two closets from the weight of her wardrobe.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1624247]I used to be a contractor for the State Dept. And listened to the guys talk about how they were kidnapped and taken to the ATM, another was shot. These two incidents were in Colombia. I also did not like the thuggish atmosphere in DR. Panama is cool though. Spirit of adventure puts me on the plane, and I still go. My usual M. O. Is to get in, stay low, do my dirty and get out. I do that for all countries. That way your not on the crooks radar, and not there long enough for women to get their hooks in you.[/QUOTE]That is true. When foreigners are working in South America they do have a target on their backs through their employers. I met an American in Colombia who claimed his father was an executive with a US oil company and was managing the Colombia division. The office was in Santa Marta but they were forced to live in Cartagena due to FARC activity not far from Santa Marta. The executive and his family would be targets for kidnappings. He commuted by helicopter between the two cities.
Some kidnappers pay bank workers to tell them who has large balances. Those large balance customers are targeted for kidnapping. I heard that kidnappers pay airline workers to notify them when certain persons are flying into Colombia. Those people are met at the airport with "rides" to their destination. The "ride" ends after paying a ransom.
There is a racial element involved. The wealthiest people in South America countries are all White so white skin is associated with money. Non-Whites are not targeted nearly as much because it is assumed they do not have enough money to make it worthwhile.
I used to like DR and had a few very nice chicas there, not only sexy but nice personalities as well. I stopped going about 10 years ago after Hipolito Mejia became president. He ran the country into the ground. The exchange rate went to like 60 pesos to the dollar from about 15 beforehand (which would be good except), gas prices went through the roof, electricity production plummeted, and crime sky rocketed. On the taxi ride to the airport on my final trip, the driver took a large gun from his glove box and put it in a pouch in his door for quick access. He explained that taxi drivers were getting robbed on the highway between Santo Domingo and the airport.
In around 22 years of mongering I have been a crime victim twice. I was pick-pocketed in Brazil losing $6 USD and robbed at gun point in Curacao losing around $30 USD. I am sure we all know how to lower our profiles while abroad. I don't drink at bars and never get drunk, I don't wear bling or any other jewelry, I don't dress flashy, I don't discuss money with any except chicas who are offering me sex. Most crime is about money. Don't look like you have a lot and most criminals will ignore you.
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[QUOTE=George90;1624265]In around 22 years of mongering I have been a crime victim twice..[/QUOTE]Me once- in the good ole USA. I gave a guy a ride and he pulled out a knife. I gave him the change out of my ash tray and he left. Is. 65 cent worth reporting?
In defense of the third world, all the valuables I have ever surrendered to it was because I was drunk and lost it, or stupid and forgot it.
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[URL]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/22/woman-gets-third-boob-jasmine-tridevil_n_5862184.html[/URL]
The Cups may want to go after this one!
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For Women, 30 is the new 50
Fresh off the press from Time Magazine:
[B]30 Is the New 50: Old Age Is Killing My Dating Life
My career successes, my triumphs as a human being, are trumped by the fact my looks and my ovaries have a shelf life[/B]
"You know," he says. "It's tough for people our age. ".
It's 1 am on a Monday and I am currently on the phone having an argument with a guy I'd only been on four dates with, three of them good. One of them the last was less good, given he had gone MIA for the better part of three weeks and I had a sneaking suspicion he had a girlfriend.
We hadn't slept together, but the kisses had been the type of kisses you walk away from with shaky knees and blind hope. There was something there, and we both knew it, which is why we're attempting to hash things out over the phone at some ungodly hour. Because at our age, we're adults, and things matter more. The mistakes leave marks.
Alex is 38. I'm 30. Technically, there are no "people our age. " But I'm starting to feel that a 30-year-old woman might as well be a 40-year-old-man, though infinitely less desirable, culturally speaking.
At 40, a man is well into hitting his stride, something the guy I'm arguing with is all too aware of, as evidenced when he professes on multiple occasions, "I'm an amazing guy. " "We're killing it. KILLING IT," he tells me, while explaining that he's been caught up in his rapidly expanding architecture firm.
Alex sees his stock rising. For a man, age brings success, wisdom, and the Hollywood-approved wrinkles of Robert Redford. And, while I too find that my career is on the up, it doesn't matter, because time, for a woman, is hardly as kind as it is to a man. My career successes, my triumphs as a human being, are trumped by the fact my looksand my ovarieshave a shelf life. Biology and Sociology 101.
Interestingly enough, Alex and I, with nearly a decade between us, are two people on the same page in terms of what we are looking for in a relationship. In New York, men approaching their 40's begin to feel the weight of time more acutely, something women are confronted with the moment they start their first period. While boys are still sitting in the school parking lot burping up Cokes and Doritos, young girls are, in some ways, exposed to the long, faint shadow of their mortality, a life defined by precise timing and narrow windowsgirlhood and fertility immediately presented to you as finite and limited. Everything has its end.
Men, on the other hand, start to engage with their bodies decades later, only when something goes wrong. A slow-healing broken arm, a herniated disc, high blood pressure: These are the wake-up calls, where aging men begin to wrestle with the thought of impending death, or at least not wanting to be an old dad. Overnight, their biological clock starts ticking. They want kids. They want a partner. Their timer has gone off. DING DING DING.
After decades after messing around, they're ready to settle down. Which is precisely where Alex was at about a year ago with his ex-fianc, whokudos to Alexwas four years his senior and under the crushing pressure of having kids right away, lest the opportunity pass them by altogetheror, more precisely, pass her by. Alex couldn't handle the idea of having kids right away and broke it off, because he had the luxury his fianc did not: namely, time. And the ability to eventually, when he was ready, find someone 15 years younger to have children with.
Which brings us to the point when he finallyafter nearly an hour on the phone explaining that he's been so hot and cold because he's too busy with work, because he's very into expanding his business, because he's shyadmits he's been seeing some 20-something girl named Anouk for the past few months.
This, by the way, follows this part of the conversation by about 20 minutes:
Alex: Well, what do you want?
Me: I want to love someone and I want them to love me.
Alex: You? You think you're loveable? You think someone can fall in love with you? You're so guarded. How can anyone fall in love with someone so guarded?
Alex, of course, self-professed amazing person that he is, is not very well versed in Newton's Third Law and its role in relationship physics. I was guarded because he did things that made me sense he had a girlfriend. Which he did. But that's not his fault. Because Alex the Architect is amazing!
As though any amount of talking is going to make this better, Alex continues to tell me about Anouk, who doesn't mind him going on dates with other women because he "doesn't love her," and who he is dating precisely because she's not looking for anything at all.
It's this logic that has most of my 30-something guy friends dating girls fresh out of college. Girls who, in my experience, are less impressive, less striving, less volatile, less successful, less intimidating, less questioning, less pressing, less complex, less damaged, less opinionated, less powerful, less womanly. They are less, and, to a guy not ready for anythinglike most of the guys I have dated in New Yorkless is more.
A 30-year-old woman is an undertaking, and it's the real reason why Alex has been putting me on the back burner for the last two months, telling me I'm amazing and that he's interested and then disappearing to hang out with a 23-year-old instead. Age ain't nothing but a number, until it's a number someone else doesn't want to deal with.
[URL]http://time.com/3422046/30-is-the-new-50/[/URL]
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About 30
I have for my whole 51 years of life believed a women is about used up and old at 30-35. They don; t look that good really and the youthfulness is gone. In America they have gained at least 50 to 100 pounds and have that bitchy attitude. So soon I be going to the land of 10 thousand girlfriends THE PHILIPPINES. Where a 51 year old fat old bald guy can buy himself a nice 20 year old hot ass girlfriend and when he is bored of her trade her in for another newer model. Takes 5 minutes to find a girlfriend there.
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[QUOTE=Streetlooker;1624556]I have for my whole 51 years of life believed a women is about used up and old at 30-35. They don; t look that good really and the youthfulness is gone. In America they have gained at least 50 to 100 pounds and have that bitchy attitude. So soon I be going to the land of 10 thousand girlfriends THE PHILIPPINES. Where a 51 year old fat old bald guy can buy himself a nice 20 year old hot ass girlfriend and when he is bored of her trade her in for another newer model. Takes 5 minutes to find a girlfriend there.[/QUOTE]Takes five minutes and months of less bullshit or emotionally bonding like the stupid biatch in the article. If she had just fucked the guy, maybe he would have been more responsive. The article shows she doesn't have a clue. But American women think their pussy is so precious and special you have to work hard for it. Not me.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1624576]Takes five minutes and months of less bullshit or emotionally bonding like the stupid biatch in the article. If she had just fucked the guy, maybe he would have been more responsive. The article shows she doesn't have a clue. But American women think their pussy is so precious and special you have to work hard for it. Not me.[/QUOTE]WORD!
She says they have been on four dates and still have not slept together. Looks like the poor guy just got tired of (most likely) paying for the dates, yet going home with blue balls each time.
Now he's banging a 23yr old. More power to him!
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Dead Giveaway
this article does nothing more than reiterate how desperate guys are now. this guy is a pussy. at 37 years old he had a 41 year old fiancée, what a joke. this guy is asking to get taken. dating all these women is absurd, dating is dead. dating is an obsolete social construct that only oblivious pussy men use; as evidenced by him not sleeping with this 30 year old after four dates. in the usa if you meet a chick at night and don't fuck her with in an hour of meeting her cut your losses and move on. if you meet her in the day, fuck at the next meeting or cut losses and move on. understand that the rules of old no longer apply, women no longer seek men for relationships in the traditional sense. before women would get married, raise the kids, cook and spend all day on her hands and knees scrubbing floors. now however they seek men in relationships to act as an extension of themselves. do what she says, when she says to; give her your money, your love, and time. then she goes behind your back and fucks a guy who she can live out her [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and choking fantasies with, and has his kid. you of course being the committed husband that you are would never suspect her of cheating and thus think the kid is yours. years and another kid later (again not yours) you find her fucking a guy in your bed and she get angry at you and hits you. she calls the police and has you escorted (you should have just paid an escort to begin with) out of your own home for domestic violence. then a family court judge bends you way the fuck over with no lube *****. congratulations you just won the american dating game! your prize includes lifetime alimony payments, 25 years of child support payments for another man's kids, mortgage payments for a house you can't be within 500 ft. of, and an all-expenses paid vacation to hell on earth! as for me, i want as little interaction with women as possible; men need to understand that despite what your biology book might tell you men and women are not the same species. i don't want to date them, touch them or see them. all i want is to hop on a plane so i can be balls deep in prostitute pussy. and i mean prostitutes only because this idea that women are different in other countries is a myth that only naïve men believe. it is not culture that causes women to rip a man's heart out of his chest it is genetics. on my way home last night i saw a beautiful brown praying mantis. i have always been fascinated by mantises since childhood. when a female praying mantis eats the head of a male one do you really think it is because of culture? do you think only american mantises do this and not the asian, african, or south american ones. no they all do it. women do what they do because it is in their dna. they do not have a choice, just as i have no choice but to fuck her right in the pussy. i can however mitigate the level of risk i expose myself to when i engage in such activities. i hate to break it to you but whether your 23 such as myself, 50 or yet to be born. you can no longer have a wife, girlfriend, or children. the social paradigm has shifted in the west from a civilizational fantasy construct to that of darwinism. women earn more degrees, and outnumber men in the workforce and universities. this affords them the luxury of selecting the tallest, gorgeous, big dicked, ripped abbed, bicepto-tricepta males. this is why guys like the one in the article are dating 41 year olds when they are doing well financially and are only 37 (sexual prime for men in terms of attractiveness to women). take my friend for example, just graduating from a state school at 21. in four years the guy fucked 4 girls. what? the guy went to some major spring break hot spot with his friends, just to get a goose egg. did not fuck a sole while there. the guy could have spent less on a plane ticket and fucked five women in one day, more then his whole college total. this exists because 1 man (mister gorgeous actor look alike bodybuilder hybrid) fucks 100 women, which leaves 99 men with their dicks in their hands. yet these 30 year olds that have drank cum from 25 dicks think guys should "man up" and put a ring on it. what the fuck! what self-respecting man would do this? listen to the arrogance of this women, "they are less, and, to a guy not ready for anything—like most of the guys i have dated in new york—less is more. " she says younger women are less volatile. from [url]dictionary.com[/url] volatile: tending or threatening to break out into open violence; explosive. so the author openly admits that men in america should engage in the practice of hand grenade juggling! no thank you. guys go to work, keep your head down, mouth closed, and wait for your next trip. american is a waste land in more ways than one. we are not citizens anymore we are apocalypse survivors.
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SeizeTheDay
For a 23 yr old you seemed to have grasped the realities of today's landscape very well. That shit took me years to realize myself. I didn't find out about Mongering until I was 26. It started with an innocent Google search for "what Dominican women look like". That in turn lead to searches returning articles about prostitution in the Dominican Republic, which in turn led me to this forum. The rest is history.
I still laugh at how I found out about Mongering completely by accident. It was like the scene where Morpheus introduced Neo to the Matrix, lol!
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1624722]For a 23 yr old you seemed to have grasped the realities of today's landscape very well. That shit took me years to realize myself. I didn't find out about Mongering until I was 26. It started with an innocent Google search for "what Dominican women look like". That in turn lead to searches returning articles about prostitution in the Dominican Republic, which in turn led me to this forum. The rest is history.
I still laugh at how I found out about Mongering completely by accident. It was like the scene where Morpheus introduced Neo to the Matrix, lol![/QUOTE]I started in my Twenties when I was stationed in Korea twice. Had a blast. Got back to the states and for some strange reason tried to live the american dream or rather nightmare.
After 30 years dating, living with women and child raising I was miserable.
One memorial day I was home drinking alone and pulled out a photo album of photos of me in my Army days stationed in Korea.
There was a Polaroid of me with a Korean hottie taken in 1977. It all came flooding back.
One month later after some research, I was in Angeles City Philippines fucking hotties in their twenties again.
Sometimes when I think about the 30 years I wasted on American Women, I want to cry.
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Goose Bumps
I get goose bumps reading all these comments. Its beautiful man just beautiful.
I've never been married don't have kids and don't owe anyone a cent.
To be honest I get a little depressed on Christmas and New Years but DAMN if aint worth those two days of sitting low!
I would hate to be in a failed relationship and be stuck. What a nightmare.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp;1624808]I get goose bumps reading all these comments. Its beautiful man just beautiful.
I've never been married don't have kids and don't owe anyone a cent.
To be honest I get a little depressed on Christmas and New Years but DAMN if aint worth those two days of sitting low!
I would hate to be in a failed relationship and be stuck. What a nightmare.[/QUOTE]Well I hope you have learned something from all the posts. There is nothing worse than a bad marriage. Many have lost thousands (in some cases millions) of dollars, property, and rights to their own children. It was really hard to sign over my condo to the ex. And have to pay child support for the next 12 years. My kid got my ex-wife's brains and work ethic. He is a lying, lazy man. All because she was the guilty, pampering mom that tried to be " the friend too"and yelled at me for disciplining him. How many times have women created this monster? Now, she is ready to throw him out. This is MY opinion, but kids are way overrated too. The smart young man is benefiting from this internet information age and reading all this advice / research online and going forth to the world to make his fortune.
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[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1624682]Guys go to work, keep your head down, mouth closed, and wait for your next trip. American is a waste land in more ways than one. We are not citizens anymore we are apocalypse survivors.[/QUOTE]Seize, you are extraordinarily wise for 23. Good summary. I just turned 59 and started mongering while stationed in Korea and Philippines in the 80's. Had a series of AW girlfriends in the 90's and 00's but luckily never married. Average length of relationship: two dates, two months or two years. I have a very low tolerance for BS and no tolerance for no p*why. In 2006 I started to go back to Southeast Asia for work (conferences and guest lecturing) also Caribbean. My eyes were reopened to the exotic, erotic wonders of the world outside the USA Now I don't even ask AWs out. The ones my age are too fat and mouthy. And geez, the baggage! They ALL have unrealistic expectations. So, I get a little brown sugar P4 P and maybe an orgasmic lap dance with a big pair of tits in my face once in a while but definitely no dating. Sure, I get lonely on holidays, too, sometimes (as another poster mentioned) but better to be single lonely than married lonely. Dogs make better companions than broads anyways. Happy hunting, guys! Don't let these broads get to you! Vote with your feet and get the eff out of Dodge!
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What Do Women Want in a Husband?
CNN online has an article about a recent survey of young women (Millenials). The issue is that the marriage rate for 20 somethings is much lower than it was in prior generations. The questions related to what men want in a wife and what women want in a husband. The most important quality a young woman wants in a potential husband is a steady job! If I understood the statistics correctly, for 78% of women respondents it is the number 1 factor; above children, religion, and race or ethnicity. It is the number 1 factor for 46% of young men regarding a potential wife.
When I was in my 20's, I thought that was the case. While I got a degree and worked as an accountant / auditor (nerdish I know), most ladies passed me by for the club going guys who dressed great, danced great, and did drugs. The ladies who paid attention to me were not worth it, both it in terms of physical appearance and personality.
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At SiezeTheDay,
My first impression is that you must have met some pretty awful AWs in your 23 years of life, because it is very unusual for men as young as you to have such a cynical / wise view of the romance situation in the US today. It took me until my early to mid 30's to acquire the knowledge you have.
Still, it is important for you to set priorities and goals regarding women, such as if you ever want your own biological children. If so, you will need to develop a screening mechanism that removes the chaff from the wheat. To do that, we men need to realize that there are at least some decent women someplace in the world.
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[QUOTE=George90;1624958]When I was in my 20's, I thought that was the case. While I got a degree and worked as an accountant / auditor (nerdish I know), most ladies passed me by for the club going guys who dressed great, danced great, and did drugs. The ladies who paid attention to me were not worth it, both it in terms of physical appearance and personality.[/QUOTE]Hahahaha. G90, thanks for the laugh. This was exactly my experience growing up in New York. I got a degree and worked a respectable job yet was ignored by all the women I wanted. A 15 year marriage and a divorce, I'm at peace with myself. Thank God for mongering.
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I knew it was all bullshit from the get-go so I started fucking Dominican and Puerto Rican hookers when I was fifteen. Then in my late teens I lived in Reno, home of the famous Mustang Ranch. They had a lot of Thais working there and I developed a very bad case of yellow fever but then I worked that off in México. Lately I have been into Native Americans (especially Guaraní) and Native Canadians. So, there will always be pussy for me wherever I go, unless I run out of money, and I have zero need for American women and the one-way street they seem to live on.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp;1624808]I get goose bumps reading all these comments. Its beautiful man just beautiful.
I've never been married don't have kids and don't owe anyone a cent.
To be honest I get a little depressed on Christmas and New Years but DAMN if aint worth those two days of sitting low!
I would hate to be in a failed relationship and be stuck. What a nightmare.[/QUOTE]Smart move grasshopper. As far as this cat is concerned, [B]20 more days of child support[/B] and then I am living like a king. Chicks these days ask me about getting married and I ask why? What will it benefit me to get married? I have money. I go where I want when I want for how long I want. I have a house and an apartment. I know how to cook and clean. I am not hurting for pussy. They pretty much agree that there is no reason for me to marry.
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The devil's advocate.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1625044]Smart move grasshopper. As far as this cat is concerned, [B]20 more days of child support[/B] and then I am living like a king. Chicks these days ask me about getting married and I ask why? What will it benefit me to get married? I have money. I go where I want when I want for how long I want. I have a house and an apartment. I know how to cook and clean. I am not hurting for pussy. They pretty much agree that there is no reason for me to marry.[/QUOTE]Not to be the devil's advocate, but there can be reason for marriage IF you are really serious about setting down with a woman. Not from a economical pov, but an emotional.
And that would come down to that the chemistry is just right.
Hence the saying "She makes me whole".
And of course apart from that genuine nice personality, that means that she needs to be an extraordinary, ultrafilthy phuckzlut deluxe.
For you guys out there looking for that woman, don't go looking for the typical postergirls. Nice to brag with infront of your friends, but useless to live with.
They are just to bratty / spoiled / phucked up in their minds, from all the pampering they receive from all men, all the time.
Look for the diamond in the rough, and you might be on your way.
Regards, Ken Apples.
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Damn. I guess I was blessed. When I was in my 20's. I had girls galore. Never had less than 2 girls I could rotate between during a week. Many young guys in their 20's were doing the same. All of my friends. So it wasn't just me. I ran with a crew of 5 guys and we all ran the girls equally hard.
We laughed at the old guys when they used to tell us about buying pussy. I remember when I went into the military and at the end of basic when we got our 1st chance to go off base and a few guys headed straight to bordello's. I had already locked down a sweet Mexican who worked on base. I thought how lame. Guys running to pay for ass at 20 yrs old.
Fast forward. And now being over 50 . I have accepted it as a fun alternative for vacations. But would not think about it in the USA Maybe its a sign of the times. But there is no way I would have even thought about P4 P in my 20's or 30's. Hell I expected a babe to be thankful she got this dick. Let alone pay her. And no I didn't wine and dine babes either. It was about straight game. We talked the panties off babes. Its what we did.
I'm sure there are plenty of guys who still can and do talk the panties off babes. But I guess there may have always been guys such as the 20 somethings on here who had to pay. Damn I'm thankful I wasn't one of them.
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[QUOTE=Ken_Apples;1625059]Not to be the devil's advocate, but there can be reason for marriage IF you are really serious about setting down with a woman. Not from a economical pov, but an emotional. And that would come down to that the chemistry is just right. Hence the saying "She makes me whole".[/QUOTE]That can be true today, but tomorrow the chances are greater for than against that it will change. People change. It's nobody's fault (sometimes), but that is how we are as humans. Today: She makes me whole. Tomorrow: I can't stand the biotch.
The shit I thought was good for me 20 years ago I wouldn't dare go for today, eg. The woman I have had to send child support to for the last 18 years who has been married 14 years and living in a motel for the past 9 years. She used to make me whole too. But see when I got a child I realized I had to be a more responsible person and got my shit together, while "Miss No Pot to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] In" is even worse off despite living in a motelhold with a loving husband plus a nice monthly stipend.
Look at a few recent couples who were inseparable but now going their separate ways: Bruce Jenner & that Kardashian lady, Nick & Mariah, and today it was just announced Wiz Khalifa & Amber Rose. And their asses have only been married 1 year with a brand new baby. They were so in love with all of the right chemistry.
But remember that it is not just chemistry that plays a part, because the chemical H20 that you call water will be called steam under a different temperature and pressure, and will even be called ice under yet another temperature and pressure. When the stars align all may be ideal, but when the stars continue moving along their respective paths causing disarray, then holy hell could break loose. Change is inevitable.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1625085]But remember that it is not just chemistry that plays a part, because the chemical H20 that you call water will be called steam under a different temperature and pressure, and will even be called ice under yet another temperature and pressure. When the stars align all may be ideal, but when the stars continue moving along their respective paths causing disarray, then holy hell could break loose. Change is inevitable.[/QUOTE]Well said. This is the guiding principal of all my business dealings, financial and love.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1625085] Change is inevitable.[/QUOTE]E your post sums it all up nicely. Boy I would love a piece of Amber Rose!
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[QUOTE=George90;1624958]CNN online has an article about a recent survey of young women (Millenials). The issue is that the marriage rate for 20 somethings is much lower than it was in prior generations. The questions related to what men want in a wife and what women want in a husband. The most important quality a young woman wants in a potential husband is a steady job! If I understood the statistics correctly, for 78% of women respondents it is the number 1 factor; above children, religion, and race or ethnicity. It is the number 1 factor for 46% of young men regarding a potential wife.
When I was in my 20's, I thought that was the case. While I got a degree and worked as an accountant / auditor (nerdish I know), most ladies passed me by for the club going guys who dressed great, danced great, and did drugs. The ladies who paid attention to me were not worth it, both it in terms of physical appearance and personality.[/QUOTE]Just goes to show, when it comes to AW there are two types of men, the kind they say they want and the kind they go out and get.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1625085]That can be true today, but tomorrow the chances are greater for than against that it will change. People change. It's nobody's fault (sometimes), but that is how we are as humans. Today: She makes me whole. Tomorrow: I can't stand the biotch.
The shit I thought was good for me 20 years ago I wouldn't dare go for today, eg. The woman I have had to send child support to for the last 18 years who has been married 14 years and living in a motel for the past 9 years. She used to make me whole too. But see when I got a child I realized I had to be a more responsible person and got my shit together, while "Miss No Pot to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] In" is even worse off despite living in a motelhold with a loving husband plus a nice monthly stipend.
Look at a few recent couples who were inseparable but now going their separate ways: Bruce Jenner & that Kardashian lady, Nick & Mariah, and today it was just announced Wiz Khalifa & Amber Rose. And their asses have only been married 1 year with a brand new baby. They were so in love with all of the right chemistry.
But remember that it is not just chemistry that plays a part, because the chemical H20 that you call water will be called steam under a different temperature and pressure, and will even be called ice under yet another temperature and pressure. When the stars align all may be ideal, but when the stars continue moving along their respective paths causing disarray, then holy hell could break loose. Change is inevitable.[/QUOTE]You make good points. But I also think we need to reconsider what is a successful marriage. 15 to 20 yrs of marriage should be considered a successful marriage. And not a forever thing. When the institution of Marriage was started life expectancy was significantly lower. So a life time was much shorter. Since then life expectancy has dramatically increased. But the idea of until death do we part for marriage hasn't changed.
Rather than getting rid of marriage as an institution. It should have a shorter contractual time span. Say maybe 10 to 15 yrs, with a renewable option after that. This would probably result in more reasonable / successful marriages. As I agree within a person's life span now. Their personalities, views, and attitudes change and evolve making it almost impossible to commit to anything until death.
Also using people in the entertainment biz as examples are a bad choice as they live in a completely different world than most with temptations, demands / stresses and financial freedoms that the avg person will never experience.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1625083]We talked the panties off babes. Its what we did.I'm sure there are plenty of guys who still can and do talk the panties off babes. [/QUOTE]Hi TG, I guess I got into P4 P at Osan and Clark in the 80's when I discovered it was cheaper and more fun than dating. Plus I love that the Filipinas love to take naughty pics and vids. Of course I always had non P4 P girlfriends then, too, all the way to 3 or 4 years ago. Now I've decided to forego American dating altogether. It's just not worth it -- emotionally or financially.
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What Women Want
[QUOTE=George90;1624958]The most important quality a young woman wants in a potential husband is a steady job! .[/QUOTE]Hi George and Guys. After years of serial dating and a lifetime of bachelorhood it is my observation that women want security (read money) and kids (until they have one or more). After that, it's anyone's guess. My guess is that they don't know what the eff they want. The minute you give them what they want they begin to want something else. God sure has a funny sense of humor. Regards.
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[QUOTE=DCups;1625326]Hi George and Guys. After years of serial dating and a lifetime of bachelorhood it is my observation that women want security (read money) and kids (until they have one or more). After that, it's anyone's guess.[/QUOTE]D Cups, if you check out some of the articles I posted here about a page back you will see that most modern women already have the former (financial security). This allows them to be very picky about the men they date. The problem is that they are all after that small handful of "Alpha Male" types: they guy that has pussy thrown at him without looking for it (women often like to use Channing Tatum as their barometer of "hot"). These kind of guys are not looking to settle down with just one female. Why should they?
So the modern woman is very happy to bang that "hot" bartender she met at happy hour, but can't understand why he never returns her phone calls or wants to settle down and start a family with her.
Us successful "Average Joe'" types don't fit the storybook male that women are looking for, so we get filtered out early on. Then around 28-35 panic starts to kick in and these same women begin to desperately seek out someone for marriage and to start a family with after realizing those Alpha Males are not going to settle down with her for a serious relationship. They then turn their sights back on us Average Joe's. But we don't want them. Their bodies are tired and used up after so many years. They are an emotional wreck. The Average Joe has learned to leverage his wealth elsewhere, knowing he could just pay for time and companionship with a 9 or 10 rather than putting up with bullshit and blue balls with a 4 or 5.
The hot, yet older AW's will still win regardless, because eventually she will find an Average Joe sucker (who happens to be very wealthy) to marry her. She'll put in a year or two; just long enough to get pregnant. Then she will begin the process of slowly ripping his heart out through his wallet (A Robin Williams's quote about divorce).
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1625355]D Cups, if you check out some of the articles I posted [/QUOTE]I read them, SP. Sure, many broads have the bucks so they don't need us for that. You can poll all the women you want and read all the bullshit articles and genuine sociological research you want but it doesn't matter what they say because these broads change their minds soon as soon as they say it. I like the RW quote (RIP). Thanks.
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[QUOTE=DCups;1625368]I like the RW quote (RIP). Thanks.[/QUOTE]I apologize, the correct quote was "Divorce is like ripping a man's genitals out through his wallet. " Not ripping out his heart.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1625355]
Us successful "Average Joe'" types don't fit the storybook male that women are looking for, so we get filtered out early on. Then around 28-35 panic starts to kick in and these same women begin to desperately seek out someone for marriage and to start a family with after realizing those Alpha Males are not going to settle down with her for a serious relationship. They then turn their sights back on us Average Joe's. But we don't want them. Their bodies are tired and used up after so many years. They are an emotional wreck. The Average Joe has learned to leverage his wealth elsewhere, knowing he could just pay for time and companionship with a 9 or 10 rather than putting up with bullshit and blue balls with a 4 or 5.
(A Robin Williams's quote about divorce).[/QUOTE]I think you are being a little too optimistic here SavePros, I do not think most average Joes have figured out that it is better to just pay for it. Elliot are. Would have been a lot better off had someone told him about SA or SEA. His father should have said "Son your short, average looking and women don't give a fuck about a BMW anymore. Brush up on you Spanish or Thai and here is a plane ticket, good luck oh that's right you don't need it where you are going. " The women in this video are not drop dead gorgeous or hot even, to be honest they are not even doable. I know you have had much better (I've seen photos), yet these guys still marry these old ass hags. Pay close attention to the guys though. Double chin, soft cheeks and jaw line, small Adam's apple, high pitch voices. All signs of low testosterone, in guys in their 20's-30's. I think our American food plays a role in guys making dumb decisions. I agree with most of your post, spot on.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd3kG0FV7ts[/URL]
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[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1625401]I think you are being a little too optimistic here SavePros, I do not think most average Joes have figured out that it is better to just pay for it. Elliot are. Would have been a lot better off had someone told him about SA or SEA. His father should have said "Son your short, average looking and women don't give a fuck about a BMW anymore. Brush up on you Spanish or Thai and here is a plane ticket, good luck oh that's right you don't need it where you are going. " The women in this video are not drop dead gorgeous or hot even, to be honest they are not even doable. I know you have had much better (I've seen photos), yet these guys still marry these old ass hags. Pay close attention to the guys though. Double chin, soft cheeks and jaw line, small Adam's apple, high pitch voices. All signs of low testosterone, in guys in their 20's-30's. I think our American food plays a role in guys making dumb decisions. I agree with most of your post, spot on.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd3kG0FV7ts[/URL][/QUOTE]Those are some of the most pathetic SOB's I have ever seen. At least half of them need to come out of the closet. Behold the future of men in America. A bunch of weak castrated apron wearers.
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There is no reason or necessity for any man under 40 to pay for pussy. It is not cheaper. By no means. And its only lame guys under 40 who need to resort to P4P as their only means of getting laid. Most are socially awkward in one manner or another. Its not the women. Its them.
P4P for a man under 40 is definitely a minority view. Actually to make P4P a lifetime goal as the sole method for getting laid is a minority view no matter what age you are. But especially for anyone under 40. Its one thing to do it as a sideline hobby, vacations, get a little strange on the side. But as a lifestyle for life as the sole and only method for getting laid. Then they have an issue. Whether it be self esteem, rejection issues, self absorbed, but an issue non the less. Of course IMHO.
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[quote=seizetheday;1625401]pay close attention to the guys though. double chin, soft cheeks and jaw line, small adam's apple, high pitch voices. all signs of low testosterone, in guys in their 20's-30's. i think our american food plays a role in guys making dumb decisions. i agree with most of your post, spot on.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd3kg0fv7ts[/url][/quote]speaking of which (marriage), i happened to stumble upon a new word today: "divorce [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]":
[b]i was divorce raped. don't be me[/b]
submitted 1 month ago by rp_divorced
several people wanted to hear my story after reading my recent comments so i thought i'd oblige because it is probably helpful to others. it's long but i wanted to show you what life is like if you follow in my footsteps.
i'll start with the disclaimer that i'm in my current situation because of my own actions. i allowed every bit of this to happen and i take full responsibility. i was blue pill / beta bucks to the extreme until i said fuck it and drew a line in the sand. now i'm divorced and giving her a ton of money every month. i'm broke but happy. you don't have to end up in the same position.
[b]how i got here[/b]
i met my now ex-wife when i was a junior in college. she was the exact opposite of me. extroverted, life of the party, always seeing the positive and ignoring the negative. i was much more reserved and didn't need to be the center of attention.
i was a year ahead of her in school so a few months before i was to graduate, she said "where is this going? i'm not going to waste my time if this isn't going to lead to marriage. ".
i bought the engagement ring the next week with my student loan money.
at this point of my life despite being a former college athlete, a stellar student who was nominated for the highest academic award for graduating seniors, and starting student groups on campus i was depressed and had no self esteem. when she gave me what was essentially an ultimatum, i had just been put on the waiting list for the graduate program i wanted to attend. i was told to apply to medical school instead because it was easier to get into but i didn't want to spend the next 10 years in school because i was getting married to this great woman.
when we first got married, we were 22 years old. i worked 4 pm-1 am and she worked temp jobs from 8-5. it was the mid 90's just before the dot com boom so jobs weren't as easy to come by. she got bored quickly and started to spend her time in the evenings shopping. when i got the credit card bill, i was pissed and cut up the credit card. when she found out, she told me that i couldn't do that and that it will take time for her to adjust because her dad would buy her anything she wanted when she was growing up. she used shopping as therapy the rest of our marriage.
after being married a year, she tired of working temp jobs because her sociology / women's studies degree wasn't very useful in finding a job of substance. she decided that she was going to go back for a masters degree to become a teacher. it was her life's calling, she said. i was completely opposed as was her entire family. she quit the job she had at the time and went to school full time. i paid for her degree in addition to the house we had just bought on my salary alone because i had just self-studied my was to becoming a microsoft certified systems engineer. at the time, this certification was a license to print money. in reality, it made it so that she'd never have to work the rest of our marriage.
by the time she finished the degree, our first child was born so she was in no hurry to get out there and work. eventually, she did get a teaching job and quit after one week. that was the end of her teaching career. it was no longer her life's calling and i was supportive because i was the breadwinner who was supposed to support his family. over the years, two more kids were born and she took a job here or there that never lasted more than a few months at a time.
our third child was born by the time i was 30 and i had become extremely resentful because she made it known that the world revolved around her. and i let it continue. she told me one day that it was just expected of me to go to work so that didn't count when comparing our responsibilities. i was expected to do just as much around the house as she was and she let things sit until i was home. her days were spent with her friends and their children or dropping the kids at mothers morning out so she could have some adult time. cleaning and cooking could wait until i was home to help. any time i mentioned that the situation was unfair was met with a list of all the things i didn't do right in the relationship. she could do no wrong.
by year 15 of our marriage, i was done. i had become nothing more than an atm for her and she did anything she wanted. she decided to finally get a full time job because she was unhappy with life too. the truth was that we were constantly stressed because of money because the credit cards were always maxed and we had no money despite my excellent salary. my hamster was working overtime thinking about how great life was going to be now that we had two incomes!
that ended quickly when she wouldn't get home until after 7 each night and i had to do all the cooking, cleaning and homework as well as listening to her complain about her "horrible" coworkers who "didn't know how to run a business" every night for two hours. so i did what a lot of guys do. i got a blow job from a 24 year old who showed some interest in me. i deserved it, i thought. my ungrateful wife didn't care about anything other than my paycheck and she never gave me blow jobs.
[b]the road to the red pill[/b]
i had what could best be described as a come to jesus moment after i left blow job girl. i don't know why it did, but it hit me that i had been rationalizing my own actions in order to cope with my miserable life at home. i had been depressed for a long time and kept blaming my wife for it. if only she'd do a, be and see, i would be happy. this is when i saw the bullshit in my own head for what it was.
blow job girl continued to text and i kept blowing her off so i could deal with my own shit. she started getting crazier and more ballsy by calling and texting when she knew i'd be home with my family so i told my wife what happened. we started marriage counseling a week later and i got on an antidepressant and went to therapy on my own as well.
i went into couples counseling and fell on my sword and took responsibility for everything. i essentially handed any little shred of control i might have had in the relationship to my wife and i would never get it back. over the next two years, we went to counseling off and on. i thought we had worked through everything because the ex would constantly say that she had forgiven me. even the counselor was pissed because i would say "i hear her say she has forgiven me, but i don't feel like she has. " the counselor asked me what more i wanted, she said she forgave you. i told her i wanted to feel forgiven. so at every session, i was given something else the wife wanted me to do to be a better husband and i would do it only to be given another task at the next session.
i finally realized that the man my wife said she wanted was not me and that the marriage was probably over so i took what could best be described as the nuclear route. one night while sitting in bed i told my wife that i wasn't satisfied with the relationship and things had to change if we were going to be together. i told her that she was getting all the benefits out of the relationship and i was getting none. she exploded and told me that i was getting many benefits. when i asked her to name them she said "i raised our children to be great people. " i laughed and told her to take the kids out of the equation and then tell me what benefits i was getting. she had no answer so she asked what i wanted.
this is where i put the final nail in the coffin of our marriage. i had been reading trp extensively and decided at this point that i didn't care if i stayed married or not so i told her that i wanted blow jobs, a clean house and dinner when i got home. needless to say that didn't go over well and was the subject of our final counseling session. the therapist was digusted with me and i simply sat there and said that's what i want. at this point, my wife said her now famous comment, "if we get divorced, i'm going to rock my next husband's world!" i started interviewing divorce lawyers the next week knowing what was coming.
[b]divorce[/b]
when my wife finally said she wanted a divorce, i simply responded "ok" because i knew it was coming. i then waited for her to file papers so that i'd be the one who got served but she never would. she demanded i move out of the house before she filed. i have no idea why that was her requirement, so i filed instead. i also cut off her access to my paycheck and didn't give her any money at all. she had a part time job that could cover her own stuff.
she kept demanding that i move out and i told her i wouldn't until she agreed in writing to 50/50 parenting time with the kids. she wouldn't agree. she wanted $1000 a month temporarily and to have a 60/40 split on parenting time. i ended up living in the house with her for almost six months until we ended up in court. when we left court, i left with 50/50 parenting time and only had to pay her $800 a month. she isn't very smart.
the divorce dragged on for another few months all while she was running around town messing with several different guys. the main guy was on probation and worked at a second-hand store. she loved telling all her friends about her escapades and her friends husbands would sometimes tell me.
the divorce finally ended when we made an offer that her lawyer couldn't ignore without risking that he might not get paid. she tried to keep fighting but eventually agreed when her lawyer threatened to quit on her. her lawyer was willing to walk away without getting paid because of her insanity.
in the end, i'm paying her 25% of my salary over the next eight years. it could have been worse, because we were married long enough that i could have been on the hook for lifetime alimony. in addition, i had to pay my lawyer, her lawyer, 50% of all my retirement funds and give her another few thousand dollars to make her go away. it cost me $20 to get married and will cost me over $220,000 to get divorced. i got the only thing i truly wanted which was 50/50 parenting time with our kids.
[b]lessons learned[/b]
don't live life how others think you should.
you come first in your own life and everyone else will be better for it.
don't forgo your own happiness for the happiness of others.
don't get married young. in fact, don't get married.
marriage has almost no benefit to the person with the higher income.
deal with your own problems now!
awalt
what she says is irrelevant, only her actions matter.
be diligent, gaslighting is real. you naturally want to believe everything told to you by someone who loves you.
if you're headed for divorce, you have to be two steps ahead of her to be able to get a fair deal. the courts are still far more favorable to women.
i hope this helps some of you see what happens if you are beta bucks. don't let this happen to you. let me know if you have any other questions i can answer.
[url]http://www.reddit.com/r/theredpill/comments/2d6337/i_was_divorce_raped_dont_be_me/[/url]
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1625524]There is no reason or necessity for any man under 40 to pay for pussy. It is not cheaper. By no means. And its only lame guys under 40 who need to resort to P4P as their only means of getting laid. Most are socially awkward in one manner or another. Its not the women. Its them.
[/QUOTE]You see, that's that (North) American mindset that gets people into trouble. Everyone else in the world where prostitution is legal would not agree with you. How do you explain someone like Wilmer Valderrama (actor from "That 70's Show)?
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First, Wilmer Valderama has had sex w / the following women. :
[B]1. Venezuelan hoars when he was 14 & still in Venezuela[/B]
2. Ariana Richard
3. Lindsay Lohan
4. Mandy Moore
5. Ashlee Simpson
6. Jennifer Love Hewitt
7-150. Random bartenders, strippers, waitresses & whoever likes money, Venezuelan schlongs & fame!
[URL]http://moejackson.com/2006/03/27/2006-03-27-wilmer-valderrama-on-howard-stern-i-had-sex-w-lindsay-lohan-mandy-moore-ashlee/[/URL]
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And don't even get me started on A Rod, LOL.
You cannot broad brush everyone to somehow be "losers" because they want and can pay for sex. I can only speak for myself, but I'm very happy with my current lifestyle and choices. Stress free, answer to no one but myself, no child support payments or alimony bleeding my paychecks. I have lots of hobbies and potential money-making hobbies that keep me occupied outside of work. I am traveling to a different country just about every three months to bang chicks most guys dream about. In fact, I can say without any uncertainty that between 2008-Present I have banged more chicks than most average guys will every bang in a lifetime.
As far as mongering being expensive, you are correct. BUT mongering can be as cheap or get as expensive as you want it to be. Your "hurdle costs" (or "fixed costs") will always be airfare and hotel or apartment rental. All other costs you can control. You can bang 10 chicks, or you can bang one or two chicks over multiple days. Most guys will have at least one favorite girl. Tell her she can make $300 USD over 5 days and give her $60 a day (don't be stupid and give it all to her up front). Same with food costs. You can eat out in a restaurant every night of your stay, or you can have a chica come over and cook for you.
As you can see (literally), there isn't much anyone can say to convince me I am doing something wrong, LMAO!
You can keep that AW option in the middle for yourself. I'm generous like that :D
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1625524]There is no reason or necessity for any man under 40 to pay for pussy. It is not cheaper. By no means. And its only lame guys under 40 who need to resort to P4P as their only means of getting laid. Most are socially awkward in one manner or another. Its not the women. Its them.
P4P for a man under 40 is definitely a minority view. Actually to make P4P a lifetime goal as the sole method for getting laid is a minority view no matter what age you are. But especially for anyone under 40. Its one thing to do it as a sideline hobby, vacations, get a little strange on the side. But as a lifestyle for life as the sole and only method for getting laid. Then they have an issue. Whether it be self esteem, rejection issues, self absorbed, but an issue non the less. Of course IMHO.[/QUOTE]Good thing your humble opinion is wrong. I travel, have fun and have sex with hot women. I would not trade my life now for the one I had twenty years ago. The idea of having to date some woman, try to impress her, so maybe I can get some sex, I'll leave that life for you and others like you or the others in sexless marriages.
Like I tell my friends, I am ruined for life and glad of it.
By the way, as I write this I am in Cambodia holding up the minority view.
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That Guy is right about very little but he is right that our viewpoint is a minority one. And thank goodness for that! Most guys, especially American guys, don't have the balls or the money to do what we do. Too bad for them. But the fewer of them, the more pussy for us!
Lots of times my women friends want to fix me up with someone and it's hard to tell them why I am not interested. But if I [B]could[/B] be honest, I would say:
1) Your friend is way fat and out of shape and all messed up in the belly and titties and thighs from having kids.
2) Your friend is still supporting those adult loser kids.
3) Your friend may have a college degree but she has never traveled, speaks no other language, and has no street smarts.
4) Your friend can't cook worth shit.
5) Your friend is on some fucked up diet and won't eat anything [B]I[/B] cook, and wants to go to weird restaurants.
6) Your friend can't manage her money and has all kinda credit card debt and shit.
7) Your friend is on anti-depressants, which she says have really helped her, but what they have really helped her to do is become more erratic and self-absorbed.
And most of them have five or more of these seven syndromes.
On my next 8 day sex trip, I will spend about $2,000 total and I will bang 12 to 15 different women. I will spend 10 to 15 minutes chatting each one up before the sex and 5 minutes engaging in pleasantries after the sex. 100% of them will give me blow jobs. 0% will receive alimony.
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Not sure I agree with your comments.
As a single male who is now 42, I still have no problem getting laid; particularly with Asian women and do so without promising any relationship. For years, I hooked up with a flight attendant from a SE Asian airline when shy had an long haul run to LA. I still have a couple very attractive friends with benefits where I live and other cities I work in. Hell, I am going out Friday night with a 25 year old (American) woman who is in school (not looking for a sugar daddy), just a companion. Women like mature, working men that are in reasonable shape. However, that does not mean I do not pay for pussy. When I think about it, I am going to take a woman to a fine dinner, relax, and maybe see a show here in Vegas while working. All that will cost me more than 1 hour with a professional. But, in return I get a night of amazing sex. She just has high expectation for oral satisfaction, which is why she probably keeps me around.
Personally, I like the saying "we don't pay for sex, we pay them to go away". One time while traveling in Vietnam I met a very smart, well educated woman engaged in International Trade. She had an MBA from a European University and was very cute, late 30's. I didn't make the move, she did after we spent our free time on the weekend together and next thing I know we are having sex all day Sunday afternoon. However, that went from friends to she was "in love" with me. Frankly, I felt a little bad as I didn't want to ruin a professional relationship. But, small head did the thinking. Not every women is open to FWB arrangement.
So, when I was younger, my goal was never to make a career out of paying for sex. But did I on occasion, of course how could I not when working in Singapore and Thailand. Sex in a relationship is great, in fact it is the best when you have a good partner. However, I like to be pampered sometimes. A nice massage, then more intimate contact to relax me. My point is, when I pay, it means I don't have to worry about pleasing her and I can focus on my sexual desires. But, that is probably consistent with your view. Just don't forget that there are some men with physical disabilities or maybe just are unattractive leaving them with little confidence. At least they can obtain some physical pleasure. In Hong Kong if you look up sites like 141,168 or some others, women specifically state they service the physically disabled. Hell, in some countries I am sure it is covered by insurance.
And furthermore, now being over 40, I have no intention to pay for anything on a regular basis when I am still in good shape and find the older I get the easier it has been to hook up with women in the 30's and 40's for nothing but a little attention. Women at this age have raging hormones and some I cannot even keep up with; but than God for Cialis.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1625524]There is no reason or necessity for any man under 40 to pay for pussy. It is not cheaper. By no means. And its only lame guys under 40 who need to resort to P4P as their only means of getting laid. Most are socially awkward in one manner or another. Its not the women. Its them.
P4P for a man under 40 is definitely a minority view. Actually to make P4P a lifetime goal as the sole method for getting laid is a minority view no matter what age you are. But especially for anyone under 40. Its one thing to do it as a sideline hobby, vacations, get a little strange on the side. But as a lifestyle for life as the sole and only method for getting laid. Then they have an issue. Whether it be self esteem, rejection issues, self absorbed, but an issue non the less. Of course IMHO.[/QUOTE]
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My two cents on P4 P before 40
I think almost all of us when we first think of women at a young age we're not thinking about paying for sex but just getting it. Nevertheless we all develop at a different pace for almost
everything including social skills with the opposite sex. I mean for whatever reason I could never play tennis as well as Roger Federer no matter how many lessons I've had. But I love
the sport. But going on I believe most of us have gone through several devastating relationships (or maybe just one) before we figure out what we really want from the opposite sex.
This happened to one prior co worker of mine at 17 and caused him to look at women differently. Consequently, some guys of course not all, who go for p4 p before 40 its because they
have been hurt already and maybe more than once. They figured out what they want and they can control it better with p4 p. I myself had a 21 year old girlfriend at 48 but she was
maybe a 7. 5 to 8. 0 but it cost me $400 for gifts, dinners, etc. before I got sex. Nevertheless she did not have the type of body I truly want petite, slim body with a huge rack. I'm well
north of 40 and love to pay for that body type. For myself physical attractiveness is extremely important which caused me to marry the woman I did and needless to say she was the
worse American wife who left me broke in my mid 40's.
Now we can line ourselves up and for a variety of reasons some of which are unclear to men there will be young guys whom
women will write their cell phone numbers on a piece of paper and place it in the guys front pocket while others for no apparent reason have the most difficult time. Guys who fall in the
back of the line maybe can't get the girls they really want. Life is most unfair in almost everything. Thank god I was not born a girl in Afghanistan.
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[QUOTE=Carlos3000;1624968]Hahahaha. G90, thanks for the laugh. This was exactly my experience growing up in New York. I got a degree and worked a respectable job yet was ignored by all the women I wanted. A 15 year marriage and a divorce, I'm at peace with myself. Thank God for mongering.[/QUOTE]I am happy I could give you a laugh.
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Thanks SP who said "Lessons Learned. Don't get married young. In fact, don't get married. Marriage has almost no benefit to the person with the higher income. What she says is irrelevant, only her actions matter. ". This story compellingly illustrates what I have been saying. Sorry you had to go through all that. Geez I feel kinda lucky being a confirmed bachelor.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1625550]Good thing your humble opinion is wrong. I travel, have fun and have sex with hot women. I would not trade my life now for the one I had twenty years ago. The idea of having to date some woman, try to impress her, so maybe I can get some sex, I'll leave that life for you and others like you or the others in sexless marriages. Like I tell my friends, I am ruined for life and glad of it.By the way, as I write this I am in Cambodia holding up the minority view.[/QUOTE]I'm with you 100% on this, TellAll.
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Nothing wrong with P4P at any age
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1625524]There is no reason or necessity for any man under 40 to pay for pussy. It is not cheaper. By no means. And its only lame guys under 40 who need to resort to P4P as their only means of getting laid. Most are socially awkward in one manner or another. Its not the women. Its them.[/QUOTE]Let's be a little open minded here! I think you've been back in america way too long my friend.
Absolutely nothing wrong with someone in their 20's getting P4P. Who knows what their situation is, what they like / dislike, and who cares? I remember being in the caribbean for 4 years when I was about 25 and literally walking up and down the beach picking up non-pros to bang. Did I still get P4P at 25? Hell yeah I did! My whole life I've had a non-pro on call to hang out and never had issues talking to or picking up women. And I still love getting P4P.
We're all pretty well traveled on this board, we all know other countries are way more open minded than america. I see zero issues with a 20 year old going to get a massage and some extras on the side. If I grew up outside america I would have been even worse! Even back when I was in the states I still liked to pick up a SW here and there when I was 20 - and I had pussy on tap from my university.
Now I'm an expat for over 10 years and haven't looked back. Nothing wrong with P4P, we're on the wrong message board to judge people who like getting it, at whatever age.
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as with most men who p4p. most read what they want and not the complete post. i did not say p4p itself is wrong for anyone of any age.
i said for a "under 40" guy they shouldn't need to do it. but i can understand in certain situations where one might partake. a bachelor party, out of town with friends at an event, in the navy with limit port call, etc etc etc.
what i did say though. for anyone "under 40" . who uses p4p as their sole method of getting laid. that person my friends has social skills issues. and has given up on trying to develop them.
someone mentioned a kid of 17 having been turned down / hurt by the few gf's he may have had. so what. he's only 17. everyone during their teens faces heartaches. that's why they are called crushes. because at that age they hurt. someone should have sat him down and explained. its a part of growing up. love hurts. it happens to everyone. but to advise him to quit trying to develop relationships and enter the p4p game is ridiculous at best. and only stagnant his growth with social skills development with women. for a teen to resort to solely going to p4p. means he will then stay stagnant in that mode and never develop.
would you advise him to quit on every social aspect of life he encounters failures. a few guy friends betrays him. would you tell him not to associate / bond with guys any longer.
as for those who posted celebs who have had p4p partners. again. as i said. solely. i repeat solely. uses p4p. is a reflection of a man's failure to deal with relationship issues. i never said the guy would be sad. that doesn't take away the fact he has issues.
hell a serial [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] maybe happy. that doesn't mean he doesn't have issues. and i'm not trying to equate the two. so don't get huffy about. like i'm saying the two are the same. i'm not. its an analogy.
so yes. you can spend $2000 and get 12 to 15 women without talking / compromises in less than 10 minutes each. whoopty doo. is that something special. any guy walking down the street with the same amount can do the same. and with the same women most likely, if not better. so what does that mean. besides you got laid for 2000 . sure its fun, i'll admit, but shallow.
i do not say this to put anyone's activities down as i engage in the game myself. but its not my sole means by which i meet / associate / have relations (sexual or otherwise) with women.
as a part time thing. i'm right there with you. hell i'll even party with you. but to make that the only way one can have relations with a female companion. reflects on ones social's abilities / deficits. and of course that's just. imho.
now this is not the thread for this discussion anyway. this is about aw and their beautiful virtues. hehehe.
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"The Future is Not What it Used to be"
the world has changed, as i said in another post women want the top of the line guys today. this is heightened in larger cities, and washington the. see. is the most notorious. in fact washington the. see. is considered amongst many on the internet to be the hardest place on earth to get women. a good looking guy in great shape can go up to a fat ugly girl and get shot the fuck down and made to feel less than that girl. this is simply genetics. women have evolved to be attracted to tall guys with big muscles. this is because before homo sapiens developed cites and societies these traits presented the best chance of survival for her and her offspring. also these traits symbolize a greater chance of strong healthy offspring. now once walled cities, taxes, government, slaves, salaries etc. had been created; being big and strong was not as important as wealth, because your healthy baby could still starve to death or live a life of poverty. this is where traditional hypergamy comes in, which is the practice among hindu women of marrying into a caste at least as high as their own. now this really applies to all women, as women here in american would marry a guy with more education, wealth, and status than themselves. this has stagnated because women have been striving to break down barriers and to compete with men. now women in their thirties who desire to marry after years of corporate ladder elevating, looking around and discover that they have more education, wealth, and status than every man. because of women's sexual liberation, women go to college and get fucked by half the football team and so on and so forth. these women have no interest in short, skinny, ugly men. just because a man was not born tall, dark and handsome does not make said man "lame". this view is so astonishing to me because it does not sound like that of a true man. men value intellect, honor, truth, perseverance, courage, strength, valor, selflessness for the good of the pack, and creativity. because a young man today lacks the physical traits to attract a young women twerking on a bar table he is lame? have we crumbled as a society that men judge themselves upon their ability to impress a women? a woman is a creature with no scene of honor, truth, courage, integrity, or loyalty. the ability to attract women can be an asset depending on your reference frame, but in no way does it make a man a man. to say that someone has a self-esteem issue because they cannot attract women, is the position of thought that an american woman would have. the issue is you if this is your stance. this is prevalent throughout our modern american society. three hundred pound women post photos of themselves saying they are attractive and beautiful. to who! an unattractive man, who admits that he is so, does not have a self-esteem problem he has honesty. but honesty is something the modern american man has no concept of, because men and women in america are indistinguishable. the unattractive man does not have rejection issues; he will be rejected by women. to say that women will chase after the unattractive man merely because he is under the age of forty is a blatant lie. and what living creature on this earth is not self-absorb? to throw yourself on the sword to appease our female masters and gods, i am dumbfounded at the notion of this. also it is a contradiction to say that "there is no reason or necessity for any man under 40 to pay for pussy. " but then just a few sentences later give not only the reason but the necessity for him to pay for pussy "most are socially awkward in one manner or another. " but not being socially awkward is not enough in america today; i have read in the comment section of pick up artists blogs that "don't bother learning game unless you are above average in physical attractiveness. " this is what i have been saying for years now. in my opinion unless you are in the top percentile among men in appearance do not bother. i am not saying that an ugly man cannot have sex, i am saying you probably would not want to been seen in public with that women your fucking. i have read about the golden age of pickup (early 2000's) when any ugly duckling with game could walk into a club and leave with a hot chick. this was when the internet was still young, no facebook, twitter, instagram, vine. myspace was not even launched to 2003. women did not have an iphone or galaxy s glued to their eyelids or google glass in front of them either. those days are long gone. in hindsight that time period was the last before society's technologically enhanced rapid descent in to utter depravity and abject destitution.
is mongering cheaper than having sex for "free"? the answer is relative to the person in question; however there are things to consider. for instance this free sex could result in pregnancy which could absolutely decimate a young man's life. the demoralizing hassle of trying to entertain women and convince them to willingly have sex with you. women that stalk you, and key your car because you had sex with multiple women. the false [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] claims, and the fact the men are guilty until proven innocent on college campuses under our current president. i read an article about cost per orgasm (cpo), the authors model consisted of adding up all the money you spend on a woman and divide it by the number of times you have sex with the women. he gave an example of spending $300 to have sex twice. your cpo would then be $150. but what the author did not talk about, but what i could not get out of my head was 0. the number 0. what if you spend money, any amount of money on a women and she then says "let's just be friend". well in mathematics division by 0 is forbidden, if you divide by zero you get infinity or it is undefined. if mathematics and physics describes the nature of the universe then the universe has made it quite clear that you should not spend money and not get sex. the universe has stated quite clearly that the possibility of sex which is nothing more than dubious expectation is not enough.
for myself there is no doubt that mongering is the best option, it is the safest, cheapest, the most relaxing and rewarding. however i wonder if american women will catch on a try to ban us passport holders from travelling to dr, cr, col, bra, thai, phi. taxes on single childless people have already been proposed, and taxes on expatriation have been raised. as america slips further towards being indistinguishable from the rest of the world, i wonder how much of a choice we will be given in the future. tellall the other day talked about how chasing after the american dream cuased him to be miserable. it is not our dream it is theirs, it is only a nightmare for those of us who believe the illusion. my generation the millennials are fucked. the educational system is a scam, buying a house is a death wish (the word mortgage translates to death pledge in french), buying a car is suicide. marriage presents no benefits and is a legal contract for modern day slavery. what if you want children? well luckily i do not want children ever! children are looked upon as leaving a legacy, however if you make $35,000 a year and can barely support yourself as an unknown on a floating space rock amongst 7. 3 billion people. you are much better off trying to do your best to enjoy life than leaving a legacy. once you are dead i doubt you will give a flying fuck about your legacy anyway. but if you did have children what would they be like? probably a loud opinionated daughter that kisses her loving father with dick breathe while have cum drip out of her asshole. she is constantly asking daddy to come to the rescue when she fucks up, that is when she is not spending your money faster than her mother. and your gay son will probably be similar. and if your son is heterosexual (not likely anymore), he will be indoctrinated to resent you from birth by his mother that hates you ironically because you love her and the kids so much. your son will inherit a world of censorship and political correctness. he will be an enslaved cog of the system in "the land of the free". he will be effeminate due to his mother and the emasculated nature of today's society. there is a war against men in this country; they want to bend us to their whim. look at all the men who have fallen in sports lately, ray rice, adrien perterson, thiago silva, anthony johnson etc. these men have been banned or suspended from their sports. ray rice and adrien peterson lost their nike contracts. but nothing happened to hope solo. she is still representing the united states national women's soccer team. she did not lose her nike contract. it is quite clear what is going on in this society. this is reality and this is the future.
[url]http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2014/08/28/u-s-hikes-fee-to-renounce-citizenship-by-422/[/url]
[url]http://www.dailyfinance.com/2014/07/19/the-worst-investment-you-can-make-buying-a-home/[/url]
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/20/sports/soccer/in-hope-solo-case-us-soccer-doesnt-get-it-right-either.html?_r=0[/url]
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1625593]That Guy is right about very little but he is right that our viewpoint is a minority one. And thank goodness for that! Most guys, especially American guys, don't have the balls or the money to do what we do. Too bad for them. But the fewer of them, the more pussy for us!
[/QUOTE]Amen to that!
I don't even discuss mongering with non-mongers anymore. The few guys I tried to enlighten about our hobby looked at me as if I had just cursed their mothers or something. I make it a rule to only talk about mongering with monger's who are currently in the game, or those that come to forums like this looking for info.
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[QUOTE=Jon32;1625759]Let's be a little open minded here! I think you've been back in america way too long my friend.
Absolutely nothing wrong with someone in their 20's getting P4P. Who knows what their situation is, what they like / dislike, and who cares? I remember being in the caribbean for 4 years when I was about 25 and literally walking up and down the beach picking up non-pros to bang. Did I still get P4P at 25? Hell yeah I did! My whole life I've had a non-pro on call to hang out and never had issues talking to or picking up women. And I still love getting P4P.[/QUOTE]Jon, I think what you said is more of what ThatGuy was trying to say, but it did not come over correctly. You have many guys on this board who have figured out for whatever reason that the only thing they want with a woman is sex. Those guys seem to have sworn off women who are not prostitutes or relationships with women that they can't pay to leave. These are the guys who refer to the place they live as sex prison.
Then there are other guys like you, me, and ThatGuy who love normal women and don't have a problem picking them up, but still like to fool around with hookers every now and then when travelling, but really have no use for them when we are in our own cities, and could not have hookers as our end-all, be-all. This type of guy is not waiting 3 months to return to Dominican Republic or Philippines or having to call up some backpage college girl who needs money for books. They can just call up some chick they know to come over and eat, drink wine, and fuck...or just come over and fuck in many cases..with no strings attached.
There are guys fretting over what could be happening to their favorite P4P spot, such as law enforcement crackdown or hooker pick-up venue closing, then there are other guys who could care less because they will still go to those same spots and be able to pick up regular chicks.
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[QUOTE=DCups;1625726]Thanks SP who said "Lessons Learned. Don't get married young. In fact, don't get married. Marriage has almost no benefit to the person with the higher income. What she says is irrelevant, only her actions matter. ". This story compellingly illustrates what I have been saying. Sorry you had to go through all that. Geez I feel kinda lucky being a confirmed bachelor.[/QUOTE]Just keep in mind that this was an article I took from another website. I've never been married or ever plan to be.
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Professor SeizeTheDay
[quote=seizetheday;1625789]
is mongering cheaper than having sex for "free"? the answer is relative to the person in question; however there are things to consider. for instance this free sex could result in pregnancy which could absolutely decimate a young man's life. the demoralizing hassle of trying to entertain women and convince them to willingly have sex with you. women that stalk you, and key your car because you had sex with multiple women. the false [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] claims, and the fact the men are guilty until proven innocent on college campuses under our current president. i read an article about cost per orgasm (cpo), the authors model consisted of adding up all the money you spend on a woman and divide it by the number of times you have sex with the women. he gave an example of spending $300 to have sex twice. your cpo would then be $150. but what the author did not talk about, but what i could not get out of my head was 0. the number 0. what if you spend money, any amount of money on a women and she then says "let's just be friend". well in mathematics division by 0 is forbidden, if you divide by zero you get infinity or it is undefined. if mathematics and physics describes the nature of the universe then the universe has made it quite clear that you should not spend money and not get sex. the universe has stated quite clearly that the possibility of sex which is nothing more than dubious expectation is not enough.
what if you want children? well luckily i do not want children ever! children are looked upon as leaving a legacy, however if you make $35,000 a year and can barely support yourself as an unknown on a floating space rock amongst 7. 3 billion people. you are much better off trying to do your best to enjoy life than leaving a legacy. once you are dead i doubt you will give a flying fuck about your legacy anyway. but if you did have children what would they be like? probably a loud opinionated daughter that kisses her loving father with dick breathe while have cum drip out of her asshole. she is constantly asking daddy to come to the rescue when she fucks up, that is when she is not spending your money faster than her mother. and your gay son will probably be similar. and if your son is heterosexual (not likely anymore), he will be indoctrinated to resent you from birth by his mother that hates you ironically because you love her and the kids so much. your son will inherit a world of censorship and political correctness. he will be an enslaved cog of the system in "the land of the free". he will be effeminate due to his mother and the emasculated nature of today's society. [/quote]i'm going to start calling you "prof day"! this guy is dropping theories and thesis left and right!
you will be just fine in this life amigo. can't say the same about the other 23 yr old males in your age bracket.
[b]neo:[/b] "why do my eyes hurt?
[b]morpheus:[/b] "you've never used them before..."
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1625830]Just keep in mind that this was an article I took from another website. I've never been married or ever plan to be.[/QUOTE]Gotcha, SP321.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1625841]I'm going to start calling you "Prof Day"! This guy is dropping theories and thesis left and right!
You will be just fine in this life amigo. Can't say the same about the other 23 yr old males in your age bracket.
[b]Neo:[/b] "Why do my eyes hurt?
[b]Morpheus:[/b] "You've never used them before..."[/QUOTE]Thanks SavePros321. I love that quote. So many people today do not want to look at what is right in front of them. Ignorance is bliss, but knowledge looks like those sexy ass chicas you posted below. Every man has his choice. Whether they choose American women or something else entirely, I wish them all the best the same.
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[QUOTE=Streetlooker;1624556]I have for my whole 51 years of life believed a women is about used up and old at 30-35. They don; t look that good really and the youthfulness is gone. In America they have gained at least 50 to 100 pounds and have that bitchy attitude. So soon I be going to the land of 10 thousand girlfriends THE PHILIPPINES. Where a 51 year old fat old bald guy can buy himself a nice 20 year old hot ass girlfriend and when he is bored of her trade her in for another newer model. Takes 5 minutes to find a girlfriend there.[/QUOTE]Which city do you go to?
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[QUOTE=Mascarado;1614710]To Kaveman:
I'm not as experienced in the web scene and P4 P scene abroad, and P4 P scene in US is horrible to say the least.
I've been trying Mamba for Russia and will now try Match for US. Any other recommendations like EU websites, Iceland, etc.
In your experience, what are the top 5 P4 P areas in EU, Nordic, and Russian areas? I've only been to German scene so far, but will be venturing to UK / Ireland area, Holland, Austria, and Ukraine (given Putin doesn't nuke it).
BTW any advice from anyone other than Kaveman is welcome, TIA.[/QUOTE]I feel P4P is always disappointing; you are on the clock; she's detached on some level; and its depressing to be 10,000th in line for her pussy.
EU is P4P is marginally better than USA; and the freebies are limited to sluts and strippers looking for free tickets or rides to better capitols.
Match has provided me with 65 Women between ages of 20-35 over the last 4 yrs for essentially free (as a I spend $0 in any other female / social aspect).
Best part is you can have sex in like 1 hr after meeting and fuck the shit out of them for like 4 hrs, next morning, in shower and as many weekends as you want.
The free repeat business aspect is what makes it appealing; as well as having your confidence, dignity, and self-respect intact.
I get P4P concept, but a Man has to be able to get pussy. That's a basic concept of evolution that you can't talk away.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1615035]I'd say. Kaveman's plan is just statistics. Also you are not just sending 50 emails a day. There is time reading thru responses which has to grow as the responses from each 50 from the previous days come in. This takes some serious dedication. It has to be close to a second job.[/QUOTE]It doesn't take that much time at all. I can double tap, cut / paste 50 "Hi's" in 7 minutes. Response time on two responses is 15 seconds.
-Out of 50 emails, you get 1-2 qualified responses (ie, not bs, toying, pen-pal txt, tease) you will develop a sense for it.
-So that 1-2 emails where you double tap, paste lets meet at XYZ Bar, 8 pm, etc.
-25/100 success ratio, Those 75 other times you are out in public, with a hot, young Woman; building confidence, expertise, and being social. How is this worse than being home aloe or with your fat wife.
-Not being near a restaurant / bar near home. MOVE! What are you waiting for; if you can monger 10,000 miles /$s you can save money by moving to a better place.
-POF / OKC / Tinder and all Free dating sites are crap. Why? Its free and attracts shit. 100% of you are guys over 40. If you can't afford $40, your a cheapo! When you pay $40, as a Woman you are taking it seriously. For some of these gals its up there with Cable, Cell or Electric bill as budget item and they are not wasting it not showing up or playing games.
100% of you guys are making excuses. Join, send out 50/ day (3.5 hrs a month!) and I challenge you to come back and not report at least 1-2 Freebies a month.
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Married Mongers: Why are you still Married?
why are the married guys on isg still married.
seems like:
you spend 99% of your time with a woman you don't find sexually attractive o who will not have sex with you.
you spend 1% of your time mongering.
if you flip this scenario you can monger 100% of time.
is society, money, job, loneliness, peer-pressure, denial preventing you from seeing this?
seems like a bizarre, obvious fact of the mongering lifestyle.
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[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1625789]Is mongering cheaper than having sex for "free"? The answer is relative to the person in question; however there are things to consider. For instance this free sex could result in pregnancy which could absolutely decimate a young man's life. The demoralizing hassle of trying to entertain women and convince them to willingly have sex with you. Women that stalk you, and key your car because you had sex with multiple women. The false **** claims. He gave an example of spending $300 to have sex twice. Your CPO would then be $150. For myself there is no doubt that mongering is the best option, it is the safest, cheapest, the most relaxing and rewarding[/QUOTE]Take a look at online dating.
-Condom; no pregnancy.
-no-****: Her filthy post-facto txts, pussy pics, I enjoyed your fucking "evidence".
-Psychos: screen out; w /75 dates per year, you have luxury.
-Hassle: double tap cut / paste texts minutes per day; bang in your home; boot when done & repeat.
On Match I have banged 65 Women between 20-35 7-9's over last 4 yrs.
1 drink $25.
1 Hour and fuck.
The Smart Phone, texts, dating sites have brought the price of pussy down.
See my posts on my 50 texts / day, 18,000/ year, less 1% success rate where I bang 24 hot babes.
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[QUOTE=KaveMan;1625887]I feel P4P is always disappointing; you are on the clock; she's detached on some level; and its depressing to be 10,000th in line for her pussy.
EU is P4P is marginally better than USA; and the freebies are limited to sluts and strippers looking for free tickets or rides to better capitols.
Match has provided me with 65 Women between ages of 20-35 over the last 4 yrs for essentially free (as a I spend $0 in any other female / social aspect).
Best part is you can have sex in like 1 hr after meeting and fuck the shit out of them for like 4 hrs, next morning, in shower and as many weekends as you want.
The free repeat business aspect is what makes it appealing; as well as having your confidence, dignity, and self-respect intact.
I get P4P concept, but a Man has to be able to get pussy. That's a basic concept of evolution that you can't talk away.[/QUOTE]I am just an average looking guy. I have tried match, pof and others.
I don't get fifty to a hundred emails and the ones I do get come not from 20 somethings but from fat 50 somethings I wouldn't touch.
I had a good looking friend who told me to put more effort in it. He never did online dating because he had to many women crawling all over him. Women found him extremely attractive. Everywhere we went women were trying to pick him up.
I did an experiment. I created a phantom profile, wrote the exact same thing as mine on it, but put his picture on it.
In 3 days had 300 emails. One women said she wasn't going to pay for full membership until she saw my / his picture.
A lot of those women were hot and almost begging him to respond.
I then changed my profile, said I had been hurt before and wasn't looking for a relationship, only sex. (I wrote it just like that).
200 emails in 3 days. I woman said she lived in California but could fly to Texas twice a week for sex.
By the way in the same time frame my real profile got no hits.
To say that the playing field is equal is a lie. To say all you need is social skils is also bull. I worked my way up the corporate ladder in my job, you can't do that without social skills.
In Texas we say, God made some men big and some men small, but Colt made them all even. So does P4 P.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1625939]
In Texas we say, God made some men big and some men small, but Colt made them all even. So does P4P.[/QUOTE]YES! Love that line, hahaha!
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SeizeTheDay uses the most ridiculous examples for reasoning and SaveaPro calls that "Professor" material.
He sites the few worst case scenarios. Looks for failures. To justify his reasoning. As if the other Millions of men in relationships without these problems don't account for nothing.
All of sudden after the year 2000. The Internet / FB and social media has become the problem. DUH. Some how because of that. Women don't date regular looking 20 yr old guys any longer. Only Adonis or his wealthy friends can get laid.
If a guy has a date and strikes out. He should quit dating and just pay for sex. Period. Because. Damn it. We went on a date, I should get pussy. Well boo hoo. To think just because one goes on a date, a woman should fuck and if not. Fuck it. I give up on dating and only pay for pussy now because. After all. I'll get pussy is a cop out. Giving up.
Also this COP (cost of pussy) is way off. As guys with girlfriends (from Dating , fuck 100's of times for nothing, watch TV and fuck, she cooks and they fuck, . After you are dating, you fuck just because you care for each other. Without paying anything.
But I can understand why you wouldn't understand that concept. Because. You only get pussy by paying. That is what is called giving up and not trying to Develop Social Skills.
Do you think it has been different in any era. No man always scores no matter how good he looks or how much money he has. Its a matter of having confidence in one's self to know this and press forward.
His statement. "A woman is a creature with no scene of honor, truth, courage, integrity, or loyalty" . Says it all.
This is a guy who has obviously been shot down and instead of being a man and learning the fact that no man bats 100 . He instead looks to every excuse to instead of "Man up" . He has "Given up" .
I know of many. Short, overweight, fast food workers, Walmart workers who have healthy normal sex lives with attractive women. Yes attractive women. Attractive women, come at every economic level of society. Not every beautiful woman is born wealthy or has access to wealthy men. And most often with women in their 20's. They are attracted to guys for the most mundane of reasons. He's funny, he's so sweet, he has nice eyes. Look at his butt its cute.
Sure you can P4P for the rest of your life and have sex. But what about a healthy relationship with someone who cares about you. Doing the things, couples do. Oh yeah. You'll hire an escort to do those things too. Pay a girl to do social activities for the rest of your life.
99.9% of the worlds men. Not just American men. But the world over. Use dating to have relationships with women.
In no country in the world do the majority of men advocate. Prostitutes as a man's sole and only means of relationship with women. Nowhere.
Courtship and Marriage is the basis of relationships the world over. That alone tells you who is socially adjusted and who is not.
It not an American thing. Its a man thing. Don't worry about the ones that get away and enjoy the successes as 99.9% of men do.
There is nothing wrong with P4P, it has its place and I enjoy it as much as the next man. But to say it should be anyone's sole and only way to have relationship with women. Is in mine and 99.9% of the worlds view. A person with social deficits and ineptitude's.
But to each their own. As it harms no one else, enjoy.
Thatguy. Peace.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1625939]To say that the playing field is equal is a lie. To say all you need is social skils is also bull. I worked my way up the corporate ladder in my job, you can't do that without social skills.[/QUOTE]What kind of skills do you think are needed?
[URL]http://youtu.be/abw6huc3hQA[/URL]
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1625972]What kind of skills do you think are needed?
[URL]http://youtu.be/abw6huc3hQA[/URL][/QUOTE]You need to be perceived as attractive to the AW or rich. If you can't get past the initial rejection because you don't look attractive enough to them, all the social skills will do you no good.
As in my online dating experiment, it didn't matter what I wrote, it was my friends photo they saw. Do you think they could tell if he had social skills by the photo?
To say an Average Joe can't get a hot girl would be inaccurate. But he will invest a whole lot more time, effort, rejection, money and aggravation to get one and for me, it's not worth it.
I'm back in Pattaya now. On my way to a Bar be Que Buffet in a few hours. There will also be booze and about 40 women there to take care of my needs should it arise.
Nobody has made a good enough arguement to me that dating in america is better than my life now. I don't knock dating, some people need that connection. I just don't.
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[QUOTE=KaveMan;1625900]Why are the Married Guys on ISG still married.
[/QUOTE]I was married for 1. 5 years, worst decision ever. I got married for the simple fact that I want kids. I still do want kids, maybe I'll make another terrible decision and do it again one day.
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[QUOTE=KaveMan;1625903]Take a look at online dating.
On Match I have banged 65 Women between 20-35 7-9's over last 4 yrs.
1 drink $25.
1 Hour and fuck.
The Smart Phone, texts, dating sites have brought the price of pussy down.
See my posts on my 50 texts / day, 18,000/ year, less 1% success rate where I bang 24 hot babes.[/QUOTE]KaveMan,
I applaud your On-Line dating capabilities. At least you have evolved with the evolution of dating using technology to your best advantage.
But as I said. It still requires time and patience, not every person wants to do. 50 texts a day, 18000 a year. Keeping track of each conversation is time consuming. I'm not knocking it. But one has to be real. It does take time and either you have a super memory or you need to keep track of each conversation some way.
Also its not as free as you make it out to be, You have to pay the monthly member fee's. And of course, not every girl you meet jumps right into bed, so there are those 1 drink misses. Also I would say others may disagree with your assertion these women are 7 to 9's. Especially all fucking you 1 hr after meeting you after only 1 drink.
I have been on both on-line sites and rarely see a 9. More like 5's and the occasional 7 or 8. I would imagine most would say. You are hitting more 5's and 6's. And an occasional 7 maybe an 8.
You haven't stated your age. Which also makes a difference in responses one would receive from on-line dating. As a Man over 55 yrs old, no matter how good he looks will receive very few responses from women in their 20's and 30's.
Still regardless of all that. I think your method IS better than P4 P for the USA It would not be needed, if one lived overseas, and most who go overseas do P4P because its quick and efficient and not looking to go thru the dating ritual.
As for marriage, guys do it for a number of reasons, kids and family being the foremost. A constant companion being another. Look George Clooney, who was a notorious womanizer. Just married.
Most (always exceptions) guys regardless of wanting a variety of pussy. Once they find THAT woman they think / feel they relate to on more than a sexual basis, meaning they can have meaningful conversations, the same humor, the same outlook on life.
Whether they marry or live together. They want that woman to be with them in a on-going relationship. Whether or not. They desire / cheat with other women or not. They still want that woman to be there.
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[QUOTE=KaveMan;1625903]The Smart Phone, texts, dating sites have brought the price of pussy down.[/QUOTE]So true! I will also add that Facebook has been a great facilitator of connecting people for rendezvous, especially EE's in America.
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[URL]http://chronicle.com/article/California-Shifts-to-Yes/149057/[/URL]
So does that mean if she tells you to stop while you are in the middle of cumming, that you have to stop cumming? That whole state could secede and it wouldn't bother me a bit.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1626893][URL]http://chronicle.com/article/California-Shifts-to-Yes/149057/[/URL]
So does that mean if she tells you to stop while you are in the middle of cumming, that you have to stop cumming? That whole state could secede and it wouldn't bother me a bit.[/QUOTE][B]YES!!!!!![/B]
I saw a woman on TV talking about this law and what might be considered a reasonable length of time for a man to stop sex after she said no. The woman claimed that men have no problem quickly stopping sex if children interrupt their parents or a teenager has no problem quickly stopping if parents interrupt him with his girlfriend. She argued that men are supposed to stop that quickly when the woman changes her mind and says "Stop having sex with me".
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1626893][URL]http://chronicle.com/article/California-Shifts-to-Yes/149057/[/URL]
So does that mean if she tells you to stop while you are in the middle of cumming, that you have to stop cumming? That whole state could secede and it wouldn't bother me a bit.[/QUOTE]I am sure ThatGuy865 will be on here soon to tell you that you are overreacting, and that you should follow all the rules and guidelines with no fuss like a good little boy.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1626893][URL]http://chronicle.com/article/California-Shifts-to-Yes/149057/[/URL]
So does that mean if she tells you to stop while you are in the middle of cumming, that you have to stop cumming? That whole state could secede and it wouldn't bother me a bit.[/QUOTE]DH,
You mean that you cannot stop and withdraw in the middle of cumming? Where's your self control? (Snark off). I didn't know whether to laugh or cry after reading this article. No wonder most of us would rather endure a root canal than date an AW. The comments are great.
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My self control is all over her tonsils and epiglottis.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1625952]SeizeTheDay uses the most ridiculous examples for reasoning and SaveaPro calls that "Professor" material.
He sites the few worst case scenarios. Looks for failures. To justify his reasoning. As if the other Millions of men in relationships without these problems don't account for nothing.
All of sudden after the year 2000. The Internet / FB and social media has become the problem. DUH. Some how because of that. Women don't date regular looking 20 yr old guys any longer. Only Adonis or his wealthy friends can get laid.
If a guy has a date and strikes out. He should quit dating and just pay for sex. Period. Because. Damn it. We went on a date, I should get pussy. Well boo hoo. To think just because one goes on a date, a woman should fuck and if not. Fuck it. I give up on dating and only pay for pussy now because. After all. I'll get pussy is a cop out. Giving up.
Also this COP (cost of pussy) is way off. As guys with girlfriends (from Dating , fuck 100's of times for nothing, watch TV and fuck, she cooks and they fuck, . After you are dating, you fuck just because you care for each other. Without paying anything.
But I can understand why you wouldn't understand that concept. Because. You only get pussy by paying. That is what is called giving up and not trying to Develop Social Skills.
Do you think it has been different in any era. No man always scores no matter how good he looks or how much money he has. Its a matter of having confidence in one's self to know this and press forward.
His statement. "A woman is a creature with no scene of honor, truth, courage, integrity, or loyalty" . Says it all.
This is a guy who has obviously been shot down and instead of being a man and learning the fact that no man bats 100 . He instead looks to every excuse to instead of "Man up" . He has "Given up" .
I know of many. Short, overweight, fast food workers, Walmart workers who have healthy normal sex lives with attractive women. Yes attractive women. Attractive women, come at every economic level of society. Not every beautiful woman is born wealthy or has access to wealthy men. And most often with women in their 20's. They are attracted to guys for the most mundane of reasons. He's funny, he's so sweet, he has nice eyes. Look at his butt its cute.
Sure you can P4P for the rest of your life and have sex. But what about a healthy relationship with someone who cares about you. Doing the things, couples do. Oh yeah. You'll hire an escort to do those things too. Pay a girl to do social activities for the rest of your life.
99.9% of the worlds men. Not just American men. But the world over. Use dating to have relationships with women.
In no country in the world do the majority of men advocate. Prostitutes as a man's sole and only means of relationship with women. Nowhere.
Courtship and Marriage is the basis of relationships the world over. That alone tells you who is socially adjusted and who is not.
It not an American thing. Its a man thing. Don't worry about the ones that get away and enjoy the successes as 99.9% of men do.
There is nothing wrong with P4P, it has its place and I enjoy it as much as the next man. But to say it should be anyone's sole and only way to have relationship with women. Is in mine and 99.9% of the worlds view. A person with social deficits and ineptitude's.
But to each their own. As it harms no one else, enjoy.
Thatguy. Peace.[/QUOTE]Dude, you've been on this thread with the same nonsense, since, as a very young man, I returned from Japan, bewildered at the stank of the male-female dynamic in this country to the point it affected my decisions and career choices. How can you defend this paradigm? Look at the length of this thread.
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I use Match, it's okay, but time consuming. However, I live in mid-sized, post-industrial city with poor demographics. Heck, even Craig's List is sufficient in NYC, any city under 800,000, its' crap.
[QUOTE=KaveMan;1625887]I feel P4P is always disappointing; you are on the clock; she's detached on some level; and its depressing to be 10,000th in line for her pussy.
EU is P4P is marginally better than USA; and the freebies are limited to sluts and strippers looking for free tickets or rides to better capitols.
Match has provided me with 65 Women between ages of 20-35 over the last 4 yrs for essentially free (as a I spend $0 in any other female / social aspect).
Best part is you can have sex in like 1 hr after meeting and fuck the shit out of them for like 4 hrs, next morning, in shower and as many weekends as you want.
The free repeat business aspect is what makes it appealing; as well as having your confidence, dignity, and self-respect intact.
I get P4P concept, but a Man has to be able to get pussy. That's a basic concept of evolution that you can't talk away.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KaveMan;1625887]I feel P4P is always disappointing; you are on the clock; she's detached on some level; and its depressing to be 10,000th in line for her pussy.EU is P4P is marginally better than USA; and the freebies are limited to sluts and strippers looking for free tickets or rides to better capitols.[/QUOTE]Strippers! I go to TJ to get laid. I go to Dreamgirls to get F*UCKED! See the difference??
The reason for your low quality service is because you swim in shark infested waters. Any Westernized mongering is by clock watching business women that want to move on to the next customer. Better to go to the Phils or Africa where the GFE is standard by BF seeking semi, and non-pro. Nobody said you have to BE the BF. Just act like one like you're on TV. Go to the land where a man is a f*cking MAN. Not an ATM, not a means to an end, not a walking wallet.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1630292]Strippers! I go to TJ to get laid. I go to Dreamgirls to get F*UCKED! See the difference??
The reason for your low quality service is because you swim in shark infested waters. Any Westernized mongering is by clock watching business women that want to move on to the next customer. Better to go to the Phils or Africa where the GFE is standard by BF seeking semi, and non-pro. Nobody said you have to BE the BF. Just act like one like your on TV. Go to the land where a man is a f*cking MAN. Not an ATM, a means to an end, or walking wallet.[/QUOTE]Right on. Never been to Africa but have seen pics of big hooters there. NG, are prices comparable to PI? Thanks.
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[QUOTE=DCups;1630307]Right on. Never been to Africa but have seen pics of big hooters there. NG, are prices comparable to PI? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I have been to Africa, specifically Nigeria, many years ago. It was not for mongering, but I did some. It was my second trip abroad during which I mongered.
Be Careful! Appearances in Nigeria were very important and almost NEVER were accurate or truthful. Almost every adult woman, outside of the Muslim North, was available because of the grinding poverty. However, discretion was of the utmost importance. From her point of view, no one can know, or even suspect, for two reasons; the public shame, and the military police / government corruption as she will be robbed of her earnings. As a foreigner, such women were very difficult to get with unless you have a local friend / guide whom she trusts to keep her secrets.
I saw street walkers in some cities in some places but they were not appealing to me both physically and in how they behaved. I suspected they were likely to create drama and call in a pimp to rob the client. I did not see one SINGLE strip club or similar establishment anywhere. That does not mean they don't exists; they may be well hidden and accessible only to locals who pay bribes to the military police.
I saw my action in the south of Nigeria in the Igbo region; one city was Port Harcourt, I don't remember the other. My hotels were girl-friendly and the security guards let women discreetly make it known to single men that they were available for sex. The ones I had only did vaginal sex, no anal, no oral, no kissing. The price was dirt cheap by US standards; in the area of $15 US for all night and multiple shots.
I must strongly warn against trying to monger in the Muslim area of Nigeria or other strongly Muslim country. I was in Kano in the north of Nigeria and it was very noticeable how women were treated there versus the South. One thing was how few adult women I saw in public. Store clerks, bank clerks, restaurant workers, hotel workers, street vendors, etc. Were overwhelmingly men. In the South, there were lots of women in such jobs.
IMHO, the sex will be better with an AW than with a Nigerian woman in Nigeria, in terms of the variety of sex acts she is willing to do.
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[QUOTE=George90;1630355]I The price was dirt cheap by US standards; in the area of $15 US for all night and multiple shots IMHO, the sex will be better with an AW than with a Nigerian woman in Nigeria, in terms of the variety of sex acts she is willing to do.[/QUOTE]Yikes, good to know. Nigeria will not be on my to do list. Thanks, George.
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[QUOTE=DCups;1630358]Yikes, good to know. Nigeria will not be on my to do list. Thanks, George.[/QUOTE]Note my caveat. My trip to Nigeria was in the late 1980's or early 1990's. There have been many changes since then. There was a military government then, not the current democratic one. There was some political unrest because there had been a coup attempt several months before my trip. (I should have done better research.) The capital is now Abuja, not Lagos. The value of the naira was 13 to the US dollar during my trip. It is over 150 now. And most of all, an entire new generation of girls has grown into women. So your mileage is likely to be very different from what mine was.
That said, I have never returned to Nigeria nor do I ever plan to.
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[QUOTE=George90;1630464]That said, I have never returned to Nigeria nor do I ever plan to.[/QUOTE]I was in Abuja about 3 years ago. I share your exact sentiments.
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[QUOTE=DCups;1630307]Right on. Never been to Africa but have seen pics of big hooters there. NG, are prices comparable to PI? Thanks.[/QUOTE]To me, Pinays are sweeter than peach juice. They smile while swimming through their dog shit of a life. GFE is almost guaranteed.
Don't let these guys scare you off. West Africa is more Westernized than the East. In other words, more hustlers. Nigerian influence reaches across most of that part of Africa. Kenya is a different mindset. More traditional people. Africa in general should be treaded lightly, but much fun to be had there too! RTFF in Kenya, buy a ticket, have a ball!
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1630539]To me, Pinays are sweeter than peach juice. They smile while swimming through their dog shit of a life. GFE is almost guaranteed.
Don't let these guys scare you off. West Africa is more Westernized than the East. In other words, more hustlers. Nigerian influence reaches across most of that part of Africa. Kenya is a different mindset. More traditional people. Africa in general should be treaded lightly, but much fun to be had there too! RTFF in Kenya, buy a ticket, have a ball![/QUOTE]OK thanks, NG. I recall seeing some photos in the Ghana thread awhile back that were quite motivational.
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Don't comply, or play their game or their rules. Your life, Your rules. No exception.
When someone that has never met someone else, claim that this person (whom they never met) have given up / not trying hard enough / whatever reason, it just comes across as absolute naive. (or very youth-ish).
As someone wrote, just see the length of this thread, and still in denial there is a problem today. Well, IMHO, that is pure rank amateur thinking.
And if this thread is not representative for the male population of planet Earth, maybe a global blockbuster movie, that hit boxoffice homerun on every continent, can help ring a bell?
The film quote is:
[B]An entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables, slaves with white collars.
Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need.
We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression.
Our Great War's a spiritual war. Our Great Depression is our lives.
[I]We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars.
But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.[/I][/B]
End quote.
So next time you wine and dine a nonpro that think that her shit smells like roses, just give her the finger and stay with the pro's.
No reason to comply or play modern womens bullshit games.
No reason at all.
Your life, your rules.
Happy hunting for all kinds of women, just don't take BS, Ken Apples.
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[QUOTE=Ken_Apples;1630788]When someone that has never met someone else, claim that this person (whom they never met) have given up / not trying hard enough / whatever reason, it just comes across as absolute naive. (or very youth-ish).
As someone wrote, just see the length of this thread, and still in denial there is a problem today. Well, IMHO, that is pure rank amateur thinking.
And if this thread is not representative for the male population of planet Earth, maybe a global blockbuster movie, that hit boxoffice homerun on every continent, can help ring a bell?
The film quote is:
[B]An entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables, slaves with white collars.
Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need.
We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression.
Our Great War's a spiritual war. Our Great Depression is our lives.
[I]We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars.
But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.[/I][/B]
End quote.
So next time you wine and dine a nonpro that think that her shit smells like roses, just give her the finger and stay with the pro's.
No reason to comply or play modern womens bullshit games.
No reason at all.
Your life, your rules.
Happy hunting for all kinds of women, just don't take BS, Ken Apples.[/QUOTE]Hey Ken_Apples.
It has been a while since I watched Fight Club. So true.
FiddyCent.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1630539][b]Don't let these guys scare you off.[/b] West Africa is more Westernized than the East. In other words, more hustlers. Nigerian influence reaches across most of that part of Africa. Kenya is a different mindset. More traditional people. Africa in general should be treaded lightly, but much fun to be had there too! RTFF in Kenya, buy a ticket, have a ball![/QUOTE]LOL!
If I was seriously trying to scare guys off from Nigeria, I would harp on Boko Haram and what they might do to a Western man whom they caught mongering with the women that they want to kidnap and sell. I mean ISIL has beheaded 4 Western men already. Can Boko Haram be far behind?
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[QUOTE=George90;1631017]LOL!
If I was seriously trying to scare guys off from Nigeria, I would harp on Boko Haram and what they might do to a Western man whom they caught mongering with the women that they want to kidnap and sell. I mean ISIL has beheaded 4 Western men already. Can Boko Haram be far behind?[/QUOTE]Did I tell people to go to Nigeria? Reading is about com·pre·hen·sion- 1. The action or capability of understanding something. Learn to freaking read before you open your gap. These are grown men fully capable of making their own decisions without your seriously feminine trait of hysterical interjection. DON'T, DON'T, DON'T is one thing my mama and my wife loved to scream in my ear.
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[QUOTE=George90;1630464]Note my caveat. My trip to Nigeria was in the late 1980's or early 1990's. There have been many changes since then. There was a military government then, not the current democratic one. There was some political unrest because there had been a coup attempt several months before my trip. (I should have done better research.) The capital is now Abuja, not Lagos. The value of the naira was 13 to the US dollar during my trip. It is over 150 now. And most of all, an entire new generation of girls has grown into women. So your mileage is likely to be very different from what mine was.
That said, I have never returned to Nigeria nor do I ever plan to.[/QUOTE]G90 & Gunz,
You are both correct in your assessment of the mongering scene in west Africa and Nigeria in particular. I was in Nigeria and Liberia (I know, I know, but I'm feeling ok, knock on wood) in February 2014 and July 2014, respectively. Both of these trips were for work but I did some mongering on the side. Check out my trip reports on both countries in the respective sections.
In Nigeria, a lot has changed but sadly a lot remains the same. Still too many people trying to rip you off, both women and men. Hotels are terribly expensive and no mongering infrastructure to speak off. Unless you are with a trusted local, it's best to stay away from this country. I used Afro to set up dates prior to my arrival and most of the dates were no show. The one that showed tried to lure me to a very unsavory part of town. Not with the headache.
Liberia and specifically, Monrovia, while less dangerous than Nigeria is not user friendly at all. You are toast if you do not have a guide.
Never been to east Africa but from all that I have read on this board, it appears to be a lot more user friendly to the foreign monger. Hope to be there soon.
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[QUOTE=Carlos3000;1631054] Gunz,
You are correct in your assessment of the mongering scene in west Africa and Nigeria in particular. [/QUOTE]Hell yes I'm correct. I had a Liberian GF while living in MD, that just wanted me to get her pregnant for yet another anchor baby and child support. I told her I had a vasectomy, but she seemed to not understand I could not knock her up. After about six months she gave up on me. On one occasion while dating her, she hired a Nigerian limo company to pick up her up daughter for the prom. The promised stretch limo by the Nigerians turned into a 15 yo Lincoln Continental on prom night. The girl was devastated.
I have a very cool Nigeria born, England raised, friend that is trying very hard to prove all Nigerians are not crooks. You can see HE wears the burden of his countrymen on his shoulders. I have never been there, but my friend has gone to visit there has told me to not even leave the airport if you arrive at night. When HE goes there, his family won't let him go out after sunset. The point is, and what I thought I had made before is that West Africans are HUSTLERS! They have to be, in that country of 100 million. When I go to Nairobi, Kenya and walk down the street, all I encounter is hard working people trying to make a living. When I talk to women on the street, they hear my American accent and don't' give a shit, they keep on moving- and I'm Black. It's actually easier for a white guy to talk to a woman on the street.
It's easy for anybody to get laid though. Clubs are fabulous, cause Kenyans love to have a good time. As I said. RTFF for Kenya, go and have a good time. Yes, it's not Pattaya, Thailand, but I'm not 75 years old yet, and needs the P4 P handed to him on a platter. If your in that part of the world, Kenya is an English speaking country with shapely young women available to show you a good time, without Colombia or Brazil prices.
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Corruption
May as well call the place "Lieberia".
[URL]http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/07/14/most-corrupt-countries/2512785/[/URL]
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I found this quite interesting. Most men would find nothing wrong with this, however an astute observer can gain insight into the minds of these women. This video gives a glimpse of these women's psyche. Notice how these women feel entitled to all this money, when you know they are not sucking dick, giving up pussy. One girl said she does not even take her clothes off because of her great pole skills, yet another says if you are not balling stay your ass at home. Well advice taken, if I am going to pay a women I want my fucking moneys worth. Just like an American women take, take, take and don't give shit back.
[URL]http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhOogZD9O5U68C81FD[/URL]
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[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1635315]I found this quite interesting. Most men would find nothing wrong with this, however an astute observer can gain insight into the minds of these women. This video gives a glimpse of these women's psyche. Notice how these women feel entitled to all this money, when you know they are not sucking dick, giving up pussy. One girl said she does not even take her clothes off because of her great pole skills, yet another says if you are not balling stay your ass at home. Well advice taken, if I am going to pay a women I want my fucking moneys worth. Just like an American women take, take, take and don't give shit back.
[URL]http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhOogZD9O5U68C81FD[/URL][/QUOTE]Talk about one big fucking clip joint! I was going to comment further, but you seemed to have covered it all: you got these dudes buying crazy expensive bottles of champagne and throwing money around like its going out of style, but are not fucking any of those chicks in that club. Just listen to how they (the strippers) talk! And as you pointed out, of of the chicks says she doesn't even take her clothes off. Imagine the look on her face if you asked to run her ass or something, LOL!
That entire video looked like a failed marriage: you got the pussy literally right next to you, but there is nothing you can do with it (and she won't let you do anything with it).
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1635332]: you got these dudes buying crazy expensive bottles of champagne and throwing money around like its going out of style, but are not fucking any of those chicks in that club. Just listen to how they (the strippers) [/QUOTE]As I said before, "Go to a hooker to get laid, you go to a strip club to get fucked".
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1635332]Talk about one big fucking clip joint! [/QUOTE]Ding ding ding! That's exactly what this place is and the same for most of the strip clubs in New York. It cost you $25 to park and regular beers cost you $8. The women are some of the most entitled you will meet in your life. But this is par for the course in the US of A. I visited once at the insistence do a buddy. Strip clubs are not my thing largely because I don't feel anything and don't care for most AW.
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[QUOTE=Carlos3000;1635468]Ding ding ding! That's exactly what this place is and the same for most of the strip clubs in New York. It cost you $25 to park and regular beers cost you $8. The women are some of the most entitled you will meet in your life. But this is par for the course in the US of A. I visited once at the insistence do a buddy. Strip clubs are not my thing largely because I don't feel anything and don't care for most AW.[/QUOTE]I also have friends that like them and try to drag me with them. In my opinion they are a bunch of sex starved fools not getting any from there wives.
They go to strip clubs hoping to get a little attention from a women. A little attention is what they get. The money they drop in one night, I could get fucked several times a day for a week.
I'm back in the states now and can feel the depression setting in. I may have to move my next trip up.
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Strip clubs
Its like dangling a carrot in front of a hungry horse and HE does not get it in the end.
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It all depends where the strip clubs are. If I take you to the hood in Atlanta your experience will be much different than somewhere in California. I was a DJ in an Atlanta strip club my last year of high school. When I went to the Navy I was stationed in San Diego and there was a place calles The Body Shop. 2 drink minimum $20. The chick put in a cassette tape and danced around with her top off. After that she came around and collected money from all the guys. I was lime what the fuck. In Atlanta we get down and dirty. Even eating pussy, getting head, and sometimes fucking for $40.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1635790] In Atlanta we get down and dirty. Even eating pussy, getting head, and sometimes fucking for $40.[/QUOTE]Tell me this strip club. Because. I will have to start asking the ATL guys I know. Why the hell they monger overseas when they can get head from strippers in ATL for $40.
That might have used to been the case. But I don't think you will find anywhere now. Getting head at $40. Otherwise let me know the clubs. Because. I'll be there with some fellas by end of the month.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1635790] Even eating pussy, getting head, and sometimes fucking for $40.[/QUOTE]I have lived in both places. Your right about San Diego. Any idiot still going to a strip club there, when Tijuana is only a few miles South is truly an idiot. Sorry, but my memories of Majic City, Blue Flame and other ATL strip joints DO NOT include $40 BJ. You must be talking about very "in the hood" joints that few people know about. Don't make it sound like pussy is the norm in ATL strip joints. LE is alive and well in Georgia. I could, however, regularly get strippers to come to my hotel after the place closed in Virginia.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1635919]Tell me this strip club. Because. I will have to start asking the ATL guys I know. Why the hell they monger overseas when they can get head from strippers in ATL for $40.
That might have used to been the case. But I don't think you will find anywhere now. Getting head at $40. Otherwise let me know the clubs. Because. I'll be there with some fellas by end of the month.[/QUOTE]Count me in. A ticket to ATL is a lot cheaper then a ticket to Thailand.
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Strip Club Sex
[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1636137]I have lived in both places. Your right about San Diego. Any idiot still going to a strip club there, when Tijuana is only a few miles South is truly an idiot. Sorry, but my memories of Majic City, Blue Flame and other ATL strip joints DO NOT include $40 BJ. You must be talking about very "in the hood" joints that few people know about. Don't make it sound like pussy is the norm in ATL strip joints. LE is alive and well in Georgia. I could, however, regularly get strippers to come to my hotel after the place closed in Virginia.[/QUOTE]I don't know about now, but pussy used to be on the menu in many of the San Francisco strip clubs. I used to get pretty pussy, get my dick sucked. Even fucked an attractive blonde in the ass in one of the clubs! I had already done her in the pussy, and she said "maybe the next time you can fuck me in the ass". When she said that, I was like hell no let's go for it right now LOL! All of it (sex, BJs) was for more than $40 mind you, but the San Francisco strip clubs definitely "had it going on" when it came to fucking and sucking in the clubs. Especially at The Cinema on Market Street. Those were some days!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1636325]I don't know about now, but pussy used to be on the menu in many of the San Francisco strip clubs. I used to get pretty pussy, get my dick sucked. Even fucked an attractive blonde in the ass in one of the clubs! I had already done her in the pussy, and she said "maybe the next time you can fuck me in the ass". When she said that, I was like hell no let's go for it right now LOL! All of it (sex, BJs) was for more than $40 mind you, but the San Francisco strip clubs definitely "had it going on" when it came to fucking and sucking in the clubs. Especially at The Cinema on Market Street. Those were some days![/QUOTE]Been there too. Used to live in Oakland in my youth. When I returned during my Navy days in the eighties went to maybe that same cinema, and was surprised at the gals sitting in guys laps gyrating at frantic pace to get them off. Hell, maybe they were fucking, I just thought they were dry humping through clothes. I was still young stud those days and picked up women easily, so I did not join in. I remember going to that club in the Transamerica building and practically fucking at the table.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1636325] Especially at The Cinema on Market Street. Those were some days![/QUOTE]Ya, I've been there a few times. They used to feature mega busty porn stars. There was a little known room up a secret stairs where you could bang them. I did Kayla Kleevage, Chessie Moore and Minka the Korean bombshell there.
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Right!
[QUOTE=DCups;1636852]Ya, I've been there a few times. They used to feature mega busty porn stars. There was a little known room up a secret stairs where you could bang them. I did Kayla Kleevage, Chessie Moore and Minka the Korean bombshell there.[/QUOTE]They would always feature porn stars at the Market Street Cinema. That's where I fucked that blonde in the ass too. And, there were girls there who would actually do bareback. Not a lot, but there were some (pretty ones too), and the thing is they would proposition you! I wasn't a big partaker in bareback, but one time I was boning my favorite blonde in there (another one) and looked down and saw that the condom had totally shattered to smithereens (was one of those cheap ones I think I bought in the restroom). I had already nutted in her when I realized that the condom had broken! Anyway, she went by "Rita Erotica" and would DFK and everything. Tried to get her to meet me outside of the strip club for fuck sessions, but she would not. I miss those days man! The Market Street Cinema was the wild, wild West!
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For all you guys demanding young guys to sleep with American women please stop. It is dangerous people, this country does not give a fuck about you. Men are being persecuted in American for being born male. Note that the "child" is 27 years old. I have seen enough, there is enough evidence out now to know what to do. The only option now is to just leave these women alone, this type of thing happens far to often. You guys decide, I bet some of you think he is wrong and should be paying right? I bet some of you just think well hey give the women the money she deserves it because she has a vagina. Well fuck that.
[URL]http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh8F3n0b0cnhLbV7l6[/URL]
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[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1637046]For all you guys demanding young guys to sleep with American women please stop.
[URL]http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh8F3n0b0cnhLbV7l6[/URL][/QUOTE]Hmmm. Hi Seize. Uhhh, well. In a word- WTF is your point?
I would have assumed English is not your first language, but I am familiar with your previous posts. I get the video, but not your post. Comedy writing ain't your forte. I WILL, however,add that at least (according to the video) the dead beat mom is trying to help this dumbass. He is familiar with the inside of a jail, as was I when I did very, very STUPID shyt. It sounds like he will eventually get out of all this child support madness, but it will cost him (really pro bono: the taxpayer) some coin to get out of it. 70k is a lot of fuckin money.
Detroit. She must be a cute Black judge.They have so many female Afro-Am judges on TV making big TV money, this Detroit area sista is looking to make a name , garner some attention, and try to get some of that TV money(espescially if she is kinda cute).
I remember reading how many judges made a poor guy continue child support payments back in the day even if said man proved the child was not his via DNA. The point being it was for the benefit of the child which should be protected at all costs, and if some dude started payments / signed the birth certificate, he will be compelled to continue by the court, even if he is not the biological father. If somebody can help with info, please advise.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1637100]Hmmm. Hi Seize. Uhhh, well. In a word- WTF is your point?
I would have assumed English is not your first language, but I am familiar with your previous posts. I get the video, but not your post. Comedy writing ain't your forte. I WILL, however,add that at least (according to the video) the dead beat mom is trying to help this dumbass. He is familiar with the inside of a jail, as was I when I did very, very STUPID shyt. It sounds like he will eventually get out of all this child support madness, but it will cost him (really pro bono: the taxpayer) some coin to get out of it. 70k is a lot of fuckin money.
Detroit. She must be a cute Black judge.They have so many female Afro-Am judges on TV making big TV money, this Detroit area sista is looking to make a name , garner some attention, and try to get some of that TV money(espescially if she is kinda cute).
I remember reading how many judges made a poor guy continue child support payments back in the day even if said man proved the child was not his via DNA. The point being it was for the benefit of the child which should be protected at all costs, and if some dude started payments / signed the birth certificate, he will be compelled to continue by the court, even if he is not the biological father. If somebody can help with info, please advise.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the reply NG. I am sorry that you did not understand my post. I will work on my writing skills and try to produce better posts in the future. I apologize for any incoherence that may have been present in my last post, and hope that this mediocrity can be forgiven.
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85 Year old American based Monger / geezer robbed by teen American working girls
[URL]http://nypost.com/2014/10/25/teen-twins-charged-with-robbing-85-year-old-sugar-daddy/[/URL]
Hey, girls, how do you like my Muffins?
The randy octogenarian allegedly robbed by teenage twin sisters he met on a sugar-daddy Web site used his adorable pooch — named Muffins — to put the moves on his young dates, a lawyer claimed.
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The NYC Viral Cat Calling Video Dubbed "Street Harassment"
I'm sure you fellas have heard about this video by now. Just more AW feminist bullshit to "train" men to better not even think about an attractive woman, let alone let her know you think she is attractive:
[B]10 Hours of Walking in NYC as a Woman[/B]
[URL]http://youtu.be/b1XGPvbWn0A[/URL]
Keep this in mind tomorrow if you decide to attend any North American Halloween parties and dare to comment on how sexy that chick dressed as a half-naked Miley Cyrus is. You might end up in jail for sexual harassment, lmao!
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1638931]I'm sure you fellas have heard about this video by now. Just more AW feminist bullshit to "train" men to better not even think about an attractive woman, let alone let her know she you think she is attractive:
[B]10 Hours of Walking in NYC as a Woman[/B]
[URL]http://youtu.be/b1XGPvbWn0A[/URL]
Keep this in mind tomorrow if you decide to attend any North American Halloween parties and dare to comment on how sexy that chick dressed as a half-naked Miley Cyrus is. You might end up in jail for sexual harassment, lmao![/QUOTE]NYC has some of the most desperate men in America. I've seen girls get play that I wouldn't pay $20 to sleep with me. That's how it goes when you lose touch with reality after years of getting no action. What more does she want to prove?
Secretly woman love getting all that attention but they also love to complain about it. You can't win.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp;1638940]NYC has some of the most desperate men in America. I've seen girls get play that I wouldn't pay $20 to sleep with me. That's how it goes when you lose touch with reality after years of getting no action. What more does she want to prove?[/QUOTE]The thing about this video is that it highlights just how fucked we are as a society. Think about it: to demonize a man for trying to get the attention of a woman he finds sexually attractive goes against all kinds of natural mating habits. I wouldn't call most of the guys in the video "desperate". They are just responding how any man would if he saw an attractive woman (okay, maybe not the two guys who kept walking with her even though she would not respond to them. That is 100% desperate).
Most of the guys in the video were saying "Hello, beautiful, have a blessed day. " Back in an era of days gone by, if she would have turned around and said "thank you! How are you? You more than likely would have been conceived a few days or weeks later, LOL.
Not in 2014. You signal to an AW that she is attractive to you, and you are looked at as being "thirsty" (desperate). Like you said: you can't win trying to figure at a woman's reasoning. They bytch about not being able to find a man, then bytch about men trying to approach them and talk to them!
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1638931]I'm sure you fellas have heard about this video by now. Just more AW feminist bullshit to "train" men to better not even think about an attractive woman, let alone let her know you think she is attractive:
[B]10 Hours of Walking in NYC as a Woman[/B]
[URL]http://youtu.be/b1XGPvbWn0A[/URL]
Keep this in mind tomorrow if you decide to attend any North American Halloween parties and dare to comment on how sexy that chick dressed as a half-naked Miley Cyrus is. You might end up in jail for sexual harassment, lmao![/QUOTE]OK maybe I'm a little slow but how is saying Hello or have a good day street harrassment?
Also if a guy doesn't talk to women that pass his way, how would he ever get a date. Society has set it up so the man has to risk the rejection while women give it. I guess it is only harrassment if she is not interested in that guy.
I can't wait until my next trip out of this fusked up country.
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On Point!
[QUOTE=TellAll;1639013]OK maybe I'm a little slow but how is saying Hello or have a good day street harrassment?
Also if a guy doesn't talk to women that pass his way, how would he ever get a date. Society has set it up so the man has to risk the rejection while women give it. I guess it is only harrassment if she is not interested in that guy.
I can't wait until my next trip out of this fucked up country.[/QUOTE]Merely saying "Hello," or "good morning" is not "harassment" or "cat calling"! And then you've got some dweeb on TV like Anderson Cooper who doesn't even like women commiserating with her about how awful it all was! What would he know about how to approach a woman?
And like you said, the kicker is that it would all be fine if she liked the guy who was doing it! Now, in addition to being financially stable and able to take care of her ass, you need to be able to read her mind too before speaking to her just to make sure she's attracted to you before you say even one mumbling word to her! What a bunch of bullshit! I'll tell you guys what. This video right here demonstrates the American female mentality in this country perfectly:
[URL]https://screen.yahoo.com/sexual-harassment-000000677.html[/URL]
Funny but also infuriatingly true! I prefer places where a man can still be a man and a woman a woman, and where each gender appreciates that in the other.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1639013]I guess it is only harrassment if she is not interested in that guy.[/QUOTE]That is the million dollar answer. If she would have walked by Brad Pitt and he said Hello, you can believe that would have been labeled neither thirst nor harassment.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1638963]The thing about this video is that it highlights just how fucked we are as a society. Think about it: to demonize a man for trying to get the attention of a woman he finds sexually attractive goes against all kinds of natural mating habits. I wouldn't call most of the guys in the video "desperate". They are just responding how any man would if he saw an attractive woman (okay, maybe not the two guys who kept walking with her even though she would not respond to them. That is 100% desperate).
Most of the guys in the video were saying "Hello, beautiful, have a blessed day. " Back in an era of days gone by, if she would have turned around and said "thank you! How are you? You more than likely would have been conceived a few days or weeks later, LOL.
Not in 2014. You signal to an AW that she is attractive to you, and you are looked at as being "thirsty" (desperate). Like you said: you can't win trying to figure at a woman's reasoning. They bytch about not being able to find a man, then bytch about men trying to approach them and talk to them![/QUOTE]Not true. They only ***** about pigs and losers that they are not interested in. I can tell you if you are someone they are interested in, nothing is considered harassment. Probably, you think that way is because you are one of them losers.
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[QUOTE=Akibono;1639052]Not true. They only ***** about pigs and losers that they are not interested in. [b]I can tell you if you are someone they are interested in[/b][/QUOTE]So, are you asking me to post my photo here so that you can tell me if women would find me attractive? Fag much? Or maybe you are really chick? Not going to take the time to read through your posting history to find out, especially if most of your time is spent asking to rate photos of guys on a forum about paying for sex with females.
[QUOTE=Akibono;1639052][b]nothing is considered harassment[/b].[/QUOTE]Then why did they label the video "Street Harassment Video" genius?
[QUOTE=Akibono;1639052]Probably, you think that way is because you are one of them losers.[/QUOTE]Probably you think that way because English is not your first language. Either that, or you have no business being anywhere near a keyboard without your safety helmet on. Not that I am saying you type like a retard or anything.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1639043]That is the million dollar answer. If she would have walked by Brad Pitt and he said Hello, you can believe that would have been labeled neither thirst nor harassment.[/QUOTE]Not in this video. I take it you mean a guy who looked like Brad Pitt (not Brad Pitt himself), but it still would have not mattered. The entire purpose of it was to show men looking like thirsty dogs. She did not speak to one person the entire video, and was probably instructed not to no matter how attractive he was to her.
Think about a similar type video in where you tie a few hundred dollar bills together and drag them down the street. Then when people stare at the money or comment "that's a lot of money" you get to tell the viewers "damn, look at all these desperate mofos looking at my money!
It was mostly my fault for not recognizing that the video was made purely for shock value. None of those dudes stood a chance of getting any attention or response from her because that was not the intent to begin with.
Also of interest: I've never been to NYC, but it looks like she is taking a stroll through the Hood. She's walking past dudes sitting outside of shops with other dudes. They are probably there all day every day talking about what guys talk about when they are together: money, women, sports, sex, cars.
Why is there no footage of her walking down 5th Avenue or Wall Street or something? I'm willing to bet she'd get no cat calls in those areas, because no one there would give her a second look. I'm sure they don't have a bunch of white collar guys and Execs just posted up on the wall outside like those guys were in the areas she was walking around in.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp;1638940]NYC has some of the most desperate men in America. I've seen girls get play that I wouldn't pay $20 to sleep with me. That's how it goes when you lose touch with reality after years of getting no action.[/QUOTE]Damn, maybe you were right Artisttyp. Here is her (Actress) webpage:
[URL]http://shoshanabroberts.wix.com/shoshanabroberts#!photographs/c199t[/URL]
Somebody told this broad she was hot, and apparently she believed them, LOL. Sarah Jessica Parker (horse face) ain't got shit on this chick! This one may actually be a horse in disguise, lmao!
And she's an actress like my dog is an actress:
[b]Shoshana Roberts speaks out about New York street harassment video[/b]
[url]http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2014/oct/30/shoshana-roberts-speaks-out-about-new-york-street-harassment-video[/url]
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[QUOTE=Akibono;1639052]Not true. They only ***** about pigs and losers that they are not interested in. I can tell you if you are someone they are interested in, nothing is considered harassment. Probably, you think that way is because you are one of them losers.[/QUOTE]Pigs and Losers. There is not a man alive that has not faced rejection from a woman. Rich, poor, handsome, not so handsome. We all have faced it and continue to do so until we wise up.
For you to say all these guys were losers in this video is short sighted and misses the point. The whole point of the video was to man bash.
My definition of a loser is a person that criticizes those guys for doing what men are suppose to do. Try to get the attention of a women.
Whoever you are, you are so lost and probably beyond saving whether you are male, female or other.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1639062]Not in this video. I take it you mean a guy who looked like Brad Pitt (not Brad Pitt himself), but it still would have not mattered. The entire purpose of it was to show men looking like thirsty dogs. She did not speak to one person the entire video, and was probably instructed not to no matter how attractive he was to her.[/QUOTE]No. I mean the real Brad Pitt. You have to realize that before he was a famous actor he was just a normal guy from bumfuck who everyone could have given a shit about. But like you said, the video had a purpose and that purpose had to be served. Nothing abnormal. Dudes like chicks and try to pick them up. That is what they are supposed to do.
I think they were just trying to put the shoe on another foot. Worldstar is filled with videos of guys trying to pick up chicks but they turn him down. As soon as the realize that the Ferrari or Bugatti that he is standing next to is his they some are even willing to go to his house for sex without even knowing his name. There is another video when a guy pretends he is a sheikh and two chicks are willing to go back to his house. He calls for his driver. When the driver pulls up in a Toyota Camry the girls are like fuck that, we are waiting on our ride. Then one of my favorites, a guy walks over as a nerd to a girl who is passing out Applebee's flyers. She would not give him the least bit of play. He leaves and comes back an hour later as a gangster and talking pure shit to her and the next thing you know she is giving him a hand job behind a tree while she is on the clock.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp;1638940]NYC has some of the most desperate men in America. I've seen girls get play that I wouldn't pay $20 to sleep with me. That's how it goes when you lose touch with reality after years of getting no action. What more does she want to prove?
Secretly woman love getting all that attention but they also love to complain about it. You can't win.[/QUOTE]This video had me laughing so hard I almost fell off the chair. Some of the shots were taken uptown in my neighborhood. We are not desperate in NYC, just creatures of our environment. I should say rather most guys in NYC because I have not dated here in ages. In NYC the average girl is full of herself just like the girl in the video. Unless you are a Brad Pitt look alike or a Wall Street banker getting a girl to bed requires substantial outlays of funds and time without the certainty of sex. I'm sure if I approach 50 girls a day as recommended by one of our ISG brethren I maybe could have sex with a regular girl at least 4 times a year. Who has that kind of time. I'd rather spend that effort on work, save my money, then go abroad to monger. Cut us some slack guys, we are surviving here.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1639101]For you to say all these guys were losers in this video is short sighted and misses the point. The whole point of the video was to man bash.
My definition of a loser is a person that criticizes those guys for doing what men are suppose to do. Try to get the attention of a women.[/QUOTE]So I have 2 questions:
In your experience, have "catcalls" been an effective form of meeting women and / or initiating a relationship?
In your experience, however limited, in any major city. London, Berlin, Toyko, Lima, Buenos Aires, you pick it, would local women behave differently than US women, meaning would they stop and engage in conversation with the catcaller?
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1639376]So I have 2 questions:
In your experience, have "catcalls" been an effective form of meeting women and / or initiating a relationship?
In your experience, however limited, in any major city. London, Berlin, Toyko, Lima, Buenos Aires, you pick it, would local women behave differently than US women, meaning would they stop and engage in conversation with the catcaller?[/QUOTE]I never said cat calling those are your words.
I don't consider saying Hello, how are you or have a nice day cat calls and should provoke a positive response like saying Hello, back as manners would dictate even if there was no interest. You could still continue to walk.
When I am in Panama or Colombia in the mall or on the streets walking and yes girl watching, I might pay a lady a compliment. I might say Hello, beautiful.
Their face lights up, there smiling and they say Hello,. We continue to go our seperate ways or sometimes it leads to conversation, but they appreciate the compliment.
If you think saying Hello, or paying a lady a compliment is cat calling, then it is your experience that is limited, not mine.
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It feels like the feminist wants men to turn gay, maybe because so many feminist are not totally straight.
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1639376]So I have 2 questions:
In your experience, have "catcalls" been an effective form of meeting women and / or initiating a relationship?
In your experience, however limited, in any major city. London, Berlin, Toyko, Lima, Buenos Aires, you pick it, would local women behave differently than US women, meaning would they stop and engage in conversation with the catcaller?[/QUOTE]I recently read that politicians are floating the idea of making "catcalls" illegal. A man might then be arrested for saying something to a pretty lady that might be considered a "catcall". I guess we can all tell an election is in a few days and some candidates are desperate for the women's vote.
What is the common definition of a "catcall"? What might be the legal definition? Why can't our leaders find better things with their time and energy, and our tax dollars?
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Be careful guys
Sometimes the most innocent situation can blow up in your face and have dire results, that's why I like to travel for sex because there is no attachment. Most American women are fucked up and not worth my time.
Here's what happened last week; Two months ago a client came into my place of employment to do business. She was beautiful with a bubbly personality. Before she left that day she gave me her personal number, which I never called. Last week she came back and asked why I never called and I replied that I've been very busy. She proceeded to give me her number again and stood there as I put it into my phone and had me call her on the spot.
I really didn't think that I fucked up there, but I would soon realize my mistake. She would text asking how my day was and I would text asking the same. I made it clear that we were just friends. We never talked on the phone or went out on dates. We would go a few days without texting each other so I figured she had other things going. Well, she texted me yesterday asking what I was doing and I said I was spending the day with my girlfriend and the shit hit the fan.
I explained to her that we were just friends and I enjoyed texting with her but I was just being a nice person. She said fine and have a nice trip. About 20 minutes later she texted me repeatedly telling me I wasn't shit, that I was playing games like she was a little girl and to kiss her ass. I got mad and told her that she was just talking bullshit because I wouldn't give her dick or money. I told her to never text me again. Then she took it to the next level.
She threatened to ruin my career and go to my job saying I was taking advantage of clients. She said she would make my life hell and I had messed with the wrong. I received 22 text messages after I told her never to text me again.
I started back tracking going over the evidence (text messages) making sure my tracks were covered in case she went to my job with this bullshit. I clearly stated in my texts that we were just friends. I felt justified because I did nothing wrong except letting her get my number.
How could something so innocent go so bad so quickly? What if we had been sex-texting? Then she would have evidence of harassment. What if I had went on a date with her, how would I explain that to my boss. So many bad avenues that I could have detoured to that could have been disastrous.
Now no one will get my number. Oh! BTW I didn't have a girlfriend but I just felt saying that would keep us on the friend path. This situation reinforced my belief that it better to travel for girls that will appreciate my time and I can get on a plane and detach without any bullshit on the home turf.
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[QUOTE=George90;1639602]I recently read that politicians are floating the idea of making "catcalls" illegal.[/QUOTE]What a crock of crap. No doubt propagated by all those liberal feminist democrats. God help us if Clinton is our next prez. Oh well I'm moving to PI in 2022. This country used to be great and now. It's ruined.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1639561]I never said cat calling those are your words.
I don't consider saying Hello, how are you or have a nice day cat calls and should provoke a positive response like saying Hello, back as manners would dictate even if there was no interest. You could still continue to walk.
When I am in Panama or Colombia in the mall or on the streets walking and yes girl watching, I might pay a lady a compliment. I might say Hello, beautiful.
Their face lights up, there smiling and they say Hello,. We continue to go our seperate ways or sometimes it leads to conversation, but they appreciate the compliment.
If you think saying Hello, or paying a lady a compliment is cat calling, then it is your experience that is limited, not mine.[/QUOTE]Sure, and I have heard from more than one Puerto Rican that its welcome and common there but this is the American women thread. If you're going to fashion a pick-up strategy based on behavior in a Panamanian shopping mall or women in Bayamon then by all means have at it. But, it's a losing strategy and I think there's no doubt that using a losing strategy over and over makes one a loser.
Oh, and manners? I don't know what your basis is but as I watched that video it reminded me of money changers in SoSewer. I don't need to say "gracias, no" or even shake my head no to every one of them, every day. An icy stare and moving along is a well accepted world-wide method.
Or was this a "should be" discussion?
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1639710]Sure, and I have heard from more than one Puerto Rican that its welcome and common there but this is the American women thread. If you're going to fashion a pick-up strategy based on behavior in a Panamanian shopping mall or women in Bayamon then by all means have at it. But, it's a losing strategy and I think there's no doubt that using a losing strategy over and over makes one a loser.
Oh, and manners? I don't know what your basis is but as I watched that video it reminded me of money changers in SoSewer. I don't need to say "gracias, no" or even shake my head no to every one of them, every day. An icy stare and moving along is a well accepted world-wide method.
Or was this a "should be" discussion?[/QUOTE]Well you are entitled to your opinion so have at them even if they are wrong. One thing you are correct about this is the American Women thread and manners and edicate don't work when it comes to women here. You are more them welcome to them since they seem to be your preference. I'm sure they would love a man like you. I prefer to not waste my time on them. I don't have a feminist handbook like you so I think I'll just stick to going where women don't mind being women and like the attention of men.
I will even let you have the last word so you can feel empowered as I would any opinionated female that doesn't have a clue.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1639744]I'm sure they would love a man like you. [/QUOTE]Well, duh, isn't that the point?
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Dating no matter what, how or even who, really does need two people to have the "feel". It's a matter of observation in the first place that would make both of you decide on what's going to be the "next move". But no matter what it is that's going to happen, at the end of the road everything is still up to you to decide. If you want some real deal love advice, I'd really love to recommend this site guys ([URL]www.elove4u.net/[/URL]). Literally speaking, this has helped me in a lot of ways during my darkest times.
Best of luck.
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The Sexism Behind the Anti-Escort Movement
[URL]http://sexualintelligence.wordpress.com/2014/11/26/the-sexism-behind-the-anti-escort-movement/[/URL]
Very well written article. Brief excerpt:
Let's face the central question here squarely: are escorts mostly like other women, or are they some strange, alien species? If escorts are like most women, they have similar needs, similar interests, and make choices in similar ways. Many activists and other people don't want to believe that. The idea of a normal woman rationally choosing to be an escortrather than being coerced into it, or being incredibly nave (or drug-addled) when she chooses itis far too uncomfortable, and raises far too many questions about so-called "normal" women.
That's another sexist ideathat "normal" women are barely sexual, or are too wholesome to compete with escorts. But it's foolish to stereotype a group as heterogeneous as "women. " Women who aren't escorts range from sexually uninterested to sexually average to, shall we say, hot as firecrackers. Of course. Female sexuality is not limited to "professionals" or to damaged womenit's everywhere, regardless of age, social class, or traditionally-defined beauty.
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[QUOTE=Melticio;1649066] I'd really love to recommend this site guys ([URL]www.elove4u.net/[/URL]). [/QUOTE]This post should be deleted, as it is obviously a link to a creepy, low budget, want to-be-mens-advice site to drum up the hit count.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1653482]This post should be deleted, as it is obviously a link to a creepy, low budget, want to-be-mens-advice site to drum up the hit count.[/QUOTE]Definately Deleted.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1653482]This post should be deleted, as it is obviously a link to a creepy, low budget, want to-be-mens-advice site to drum up the hit count.[/QUOTE]Then it sounds like they're in the right place, no?
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1653491]Then it sounds like they're in the right place, no?[/QUOTE]Should have been dumped in classifieds at the very least. AW forum is the relief valve for AM not blessed with Channing Tatum looks, Lex Steel junk, or Bill Gates money, that have to put up with the BS of AW and their games just to get laid. A relief valve is a hydraulics device that relives system pressure to prevent it from self-destructing. I get enough fake women, profiles, emails and internet SHYT! sent to me, but I won't stand for it on ISG!
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1626511]KaveMan,
I applaud your On-Line dating capabilities. At least you have evolved with the evolution of dating using technology to your best advantage.
But as I said. It still requires time and patience, not every person wants to do. 50 texts a day, 18000 a year. Keeping track of each conversation is time consuming.
I have been on both on-line sites and rarely see a 9. More like 5's and the occasional 7 or 8.
You haven't stated your age. [/QUOTE]15 minutes / day; YES / NO reponses; cut / paste time / place for date; show up. So there's no keeping track beyond the two "YES" dates / week.
I'm 46.
Not white, Mediterranean heritage.
Yes, its the rare 9's that works with this system 24/18,000 is the ratio of 9's I shoot for.
Look, guys will find 10,000 reasons not to do hard work; even if it means getting pussy for $25.
Yes, showing up for 96 dates takes effort; but that's 45 minutes spent with an attractive, desirable, hot Woman which improves your confidence, social skills, and 'game' v. spending that time on more important things, like going to bars, watching TV, porn or masturbating.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1606504]"Out of $2,400 cost (96 X $25/ date) you will have sex 24 times".
So $100 a pop and you waste an incredible amount of time and energy. Stuff like this is why mongering is a no-brainer.[/QUOTE]Well, its alot less than $100/ pop.
-First I am not fucking these gals for 30 min. More like 2-4 hours.
-Second I am not fucking these gals once. More like 3 times minimum; and in some cases 25 times over several weeks.
-Third I am not fucking these gals just one day. More like 2-3 dates min and in some cases they are fuck buddies for months, and 3 yrs in one case.
-Fourth the cost per fuck is closer to $12-14 if you do the math.
-3 gals fuck once = 3.
-3 gals fuck 3 times = 9.
-6 gals fuck 6 times= 36.
-6 gals fuck 8 times = 48.
-4 gals fuck 10 times = 40.
-2 gals fuck 25 times = 50.
Total= 186 fucks / yr or 3 x / wk.
So I'm paying $14/ fuck and your paying $100+; sounds like your wasting alot more time & money.
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Your answer is simple
[QUOTE=MrGogo;1639606]Sometimes the most innocent situation can blow up in your face and have dire results, that's why I like to travel for sex because there is no attachment. Most American women are fucked up and not worth my time.
Here's what happened last week; Two months ago a client came into my place of employment to do business. She was beautiful with a bubbly personality. Before she left that day she gave me her personal number, which I never called. Last week she came back and asked why I never called and I replied that I've been very busy. She proceeded to give me her number again and stood there as I put it into my phone and had me call her on the spot.
I really didn't think that I fucked up there, but I would soon realize my mistake. She would text asking how my day was and I would text asking the same. I made it clear that we were just friends. We never talked on the phone or went out on dates. We would go a few days without texting each other so I figured she had other things going. Well, she texted me yesterday asking what I was doing and I said I was spending the day with my girlfriend and the shit hit the fan..[/QUOTE]Look into Borderline Personality Disorder. I would like to know what you think about it once you read about it a bit. Because I have been in that hell I can tell you it sounds like it.
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[QUOTE=KaveMan;1655068]Well, its alot less than $100/ pop.
-First I am not fucking these gals for 30 min. More like 2-4 hours.
-Second I am not fucking these gals once. More like 3 times minimum; and in some cases 25 times over several weeks.
-Third I am not fucking these gals just one day. More like 2-3 dates min and in some cases they are fuck buddies for months, and 3 yrs in one case.
-Fourth the cost per fuck is closer to $12-14 if you do the math.
-3 gals fuck once = 3.
-3 gals fuck 3 times = 9..[/QUOTE]I never understand why guys sign up to a mongering board, to talk shit about other mongers, well Mongering. If mongering is not your thing then why did you sign up to this board? If I hate video games I'm not going to join a video game discussion thread.
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[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1655088]I never understand why guys sign up to a mongering board, to talk shit about other mongers, well Mongering. If mongering is not your thing then why did you sign up to this board? If I hate video games I'm not going to join a video game discussion thread.[/QUOTE]It's their way of getting attention and a feeling of importance. As you can tell by his writing there is nothing of value for anyone else. Just how great he is at internet dating.
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[QUOTE=KaveMan;1655062]Look, guys will find 10,000 reasons not to do hard work; even if it means getting pussy for $25.
Yes, showing up for 96 dates takes effort; but that's 45 minutes spent with an attractive, desirable, hot Woman which improves your confidence, social skills, and 'game' v. spending that time on more important things, like going to bars, watching TV, porn or masturbating.[/QUOTE]This logic works for the poor guy stuck in the USA. You might be a hero at USA / SG. A vast percentage of the men on this ENTIRE forum live and work outside the USA, so who is going to put this stuff to work? Their is this one and only section dedicated to discussing American women and their bullshyte that even the blind can see through. Even Bill Cosby, who had power and millions of dollars, had to drug the women he truly wanted to nail.
I have been to about 50 countries, and have spent the last 10 years just gone. Banging 20 something's to this middle aged man for little work, and even less gratuity is heaven. I'm stuck here in country for the next year, and even that is working out because I have a Thai friend with a green card coming to take care of me while I'm here. By the time the USA finally squashes all the conservatives and learns to legalize and tax it's vices, I will be long dead.
Oh, and that hot desirable woman you mentioned, is going to be hit on 24/7, so unless your kissing her ass like she is used to having it kissed, she will be in your life about a microsecond.
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Dating
[QUOTE=KaveMan;1655062]15 minutes / day; YES / NO reponses; cut / paste time / place for date; show up. So there's no keeping track beyond the two "YES" dates / week.
I'm 46.
Not white, Mediterranean heritage.
Yes, its the rare 9's that works with this system 24/18,000 is the ratio of 9's I shoot for.
Look, guys will find 10,000 reasons not to do hard work; even if it means getting pussy for $25.
Yes, showing up for 96 dates takes effort; but that's 45 minutes spent with an attractive, desirable, hot Woman which improves your confidence, social skills, and 'game' v. spending that time on more important things, like going to bars, watching TV, porn or masturbating.[/QUOTE]There is another thread here called "Dating Agencies" that caters to those who want to talk about dating women and the pros and cons thereof. I believe this type of discussion belongs there.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1655720] By the time the USA finally squashes all the conservatives and learns to legalize and tax it's vices, I will be long dead.
Oh, and that hot desirable woman you mentioned, is going to be hit on 24/7, so unless your kissing her ass like she is used to having it kissed, she will be in your life about a microsecond.[/QUOTE]Legalizing Prostitution will give men to much control. America is ran by Corporations, and these Corporations want pussy whipped men, A Pussy Whipped man is very good for capitalism. Think of all the garbage men buy and do to gain a women's attention.
If men had easy access to sex like running water. Pussy will not be valued anymore and women will lose control. I walk down the streets of Rio De Janerio Brazil, and its crazy how you can see a very attraction women walk down the street and Brazilian men don't even.
Look at them twice. Now if she was in America, You got Simps ready to buy her the world and put her on a pedestal.
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American women, no thanks
I don't want to seem like a prick but American women don't attract me at all. I find them unfeminine even though they dress well and look good. I'll prefer an Asian, European or African babe any time.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1655720] Even Bill Cosby, who had power and millions of dollars, had to drug the women he truly wanted to nail.[/QUOTE]Fellows, if I needed anymore convincing to stay the f* away from AW, the Bill Cosby incident did it for me. The man did all the right things, made some good money and perhaps nailed some good tail on the way. Forty years later some average looking broads come out to accuse him of drugging and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] them and the entire country believe the women. Something is terribly wrong here! A few weeks ago I got into it with a co-worker (better judgement said I shouldn't) who was yammering about what a scum bag Cosby is. There's no evidence, no police report and no conviction, yet a man's life has been irreparably ruined. I see my colleagues and friends everyday going through hell with their very average girlfriends and wives and I thank heavens for the hobby.
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I went out to see a Band old 70's and 80's music. I was watching this stacked cutie enjoying the music. When I went to get a drink, she leaned over saying "I seen you watching me. What's your name" . It took me by surprise but I jumped on the opportunity. We hit it off like peas and carrots. Got the digits. Spoke a few times on the phone. Met for drinks and appetizers then straight to the apartment. We've been hitting it for the last couple of weeks. They out there. Hope you get yours.
TG865
Peace
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American Girls
In 1975 the Portuguese Army paid a scholarship for me in the US, I was in Texas and I met as a young man girls.
Fist I met an American girl and she had problems with this and with that and did not like this and that.
I was at ETSU and there was a Swedish exchange student.
We decided that the American way of life was nothing for us. We had our fun and after the year I spend at ETSU we parted our way.
She is now married since 25 years and I am still......around.
That is my few cents I have to contribute.
Carlos Primeros.
Deposed King of Portugal.
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[QUOTE=BigAssEater;1656061]I don't want to seem like a prick but American women don't attract me at all. I find them unfeminine even though they dress well and look good. I'll prefer an Asian, European or African babe any time.[/QUOTE]When you can get them to dress well. The ones I see around my town doing everyday things look like they grabbed whatever was on the floor, dressed and headed out.
They look like shit.
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Exactamundo!
[QUOTE=Carlos3000;1656139]A few weeks ago I got into it with a co-worker (better judgement said I shouldn't) who was yammering about what a scum bag Cosby is. There's no evidence, no police report and no conviction, yet a man's life has been irreparably ruined. I see my colleagues and friends everyday going through hell with their very average girlfriends and wives and I thank heavens for the hobby.[/QUOTE]Not a shred of valid and reliable evidence has been presented. Thank the good Lord for the hobby!
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[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1656006]Legalizing Prostitution will give men to much control. America is ran by Corporations, and these Corporations want pussy whipped men, A Pussy Whipped man is very good for capitalism. Think of all the garbage men buy and do to gain a women's attention.[/QUOTE]Never thought it in those terms, but you do have a point there.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1656201] It took me by surprise but I jumped on the opportunity. Peace[/QUOTE]It took you by surprise because what's luck in this in this pussy controlled, uptight, conservative bible controlled nation, is everyday shyt everywhere else I have been. A fanatical Christian is a Jihadist without the suicide vest, who imposes his values on your life as much as ISIL. Only he is more dangerous because he does it through the pockets of politicians. Glad you got lucky with that piece TG.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1656232]Never thought it in those terms, but you do have a point there.
It took you by surprise because what's luck in this in this pussy controlled, uptight, conservative bible controlled nation, is everyday shyt everywhere else I have been. A fanatical Christian is a Jihadist without the suicide vest, who imposes his values on your life as much as ISIL. Only he is more dangerous because he does it through the pockets of politicians. Glad you got lucky with that piece TG.[/QUOTE]Religion has nothing to do with it. Its about how one conducts himself. A guy has to ask himself. Why should she be with me? . personality, looks, finances. What does he bring to the table. Besides dick. If he doesn't have anything else. Then yep. He's S. O. L.
Every man wasn't meant to be able to get pussy, its the natural order of things. That's why some must pay.
I use personality and what little looks I have left, myself.
TG865 peace.
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[QUOTE=BigAssEater;1656061]I don't want to seem like a prick but American women don't attract me at all. I find them unfeminine even though they dress well and look good. I'll prefer an Asian, European or African babe any time.[/QUOTE]What about Latin? Ya, I stopped dating AWs about five years ago. They are not worth the trouble. Well maybe some brown sugar P4 P once in a while. Now I just save my money and go to Asia, Tijuana or Caribbean. Particularly PI. Got a 19 yo sweetheart in Cebu I'm nuts about (I'm 59). She's drop dead gorgeous and doesn't even realize it. I went to Hooters with some buddies last night and showed her pic to some of the Hooter girls and they were like WOW she's nice. Ya, and she worships my schwantztooka like King Tarooga.
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[QUOTE=BigAssEater;1656061]I don't want to seem like a prick but American women don't attract me at all. I find them unfeminine even though they dress well and look good. I'll prefer an Asian, European or African babe any time.[/QUOTE]This is ridiculous since there are Americans of every race and culture. 1st generation, 2nd generation. And descendants.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1656290]Religion has nothing to do with it.TG865 peace.[/QUOTE]Can't you read, I said I'm glad you got lucky. Do you even see WTF happened, and what you wrote? SHE initiated the whole thing, not you. You were just drooling in the corner over her. YOU used the words "opportunity" like somebody had to hand you something. Everybody lucks up on a piece every now and then here in America. IF you were so sure about YOUR money, personality and looks (and had a pair) you would have walked over and "got the digits" yourself. Your not understanding dude how this happens DAILY, hell hourly, everywhere EXCEPT with AW. Your also not seeing the big picture if your discounting the American puritanical ethics. One: that your not supposed to give up the pussy right away. Two: Your not suppose to have a thirty year age difference in who you bang- which is the POINT of the website. These rules of society put hesitation in your head to make the move and make it happen.
Read the post just above yours slick from Big Ass Eater. You think that's going to happen in the good ole USA unless your Hugh Hefner? Even the women he bangs go around writing books talking about how disgusting it was to bang an old man. Society forces women to stay in their lane when it comes to banging an older guy unless he is a "Sugar Daddy", and when you go holding hands in the mall, that same American society will point and make friggin remarks to your face. I choose to keep myself in shape by exercise and eating right, and not chubby chasing women with baggage "in my age group". No one dare says a thing to me in Nairobi when I stroll with my twenty-something's.
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[QUOTE=BigAssEater;1656061]I don't want to seem like a prick but American women don't attract me at all. I find them unfeminine even though they dress well and look good. I'll prefer an Asian, European or African babe any time.[/QUOTE]American women are fine but like NG stated, society forces them to stay in their lane. American men have to find alternatives so that the young guys are not the only ones banging the girls.
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Fell of the Monger Wagon Confessional
[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1656006]Legalizing Prostitution will give men to much control. America is ran by Corporations, and these Corporations want pussy whipped men, A Pussy Whipped man is very good for capitalism. Think of all the garbage men buy and do to gain a women's attention.
If men had easy access to sex like running water. Pussy will not be valued anymore and women will lose control.[/QUOTE]ForceSteeler forced me out of my posting hiatus with this post. Mostly because it currently hit home with what is currently going on in my life at this very moment.
I'm fresh off of an 8 day mongering vacation in Medellin over the Thanksgiving holiday in where I banged 20 different chicas with a handful of repeat sessions; and admittedly fellas, I was actually somewhat bored with this trip. The fb method I use while in Medellin can be tiring. You schedule for chicas to come over at a certain time and they are always late. Be it traffic or just them, if you ask a chica to be at your place at 2 pm, expect her to show up at 3 or 3:30, regardless of if you reminded her a day, hell, even two hours early about the 2 pm appointment. When chicas get there late it causes me to have to reshuffle a 4 pm appointment, which in turn causes me to have to reshuffle a 6 pm appointment. It just causes a ripple-effect cluster fuck and I was finding myself working rather than relaxing this trip. All of that was fucking exhausting!
I remember being in the shower after a session and saying to myself: "Man, I am going to chill on mongering for a bit and just give the home / local scene a chance. " Meaning, getting back into the dating game here at home. I am in my early 30's, in good shape, healthy, and never have any problems getting dates either online or offline. I was seriously going to hang up my mongering hat for a while, knowing I could always come back to it at a moments notice.
Fast forward to a week or so after my trip. I was pumped about really giving this home turf stuff a chance. I bought a sexy-ass new car anticipating all of the fine asses I would be riding around in it, and was evening going to have a kickin sound system installed. I reactivated my OK Cupid and POF profiles, started hanging with coworkers at happy hour and networking events more, and even going out to bars and night clubs.
I hit the online dating scene running. I was receiving more messages and "such and such wants to meet you" alerts than I could respond to (especially when I posted a photo of my sexy-ass new car).
So far I have been on 3 dates, and have at least 2 more lined up. Going to save all of you guys some time and get right to the heart of why I made this post:
In Sex Prison (USA), the average male (such as myself) is fucked when it comes to dating. Period. I'll go even further: The average successful middle class male is fucked when it comes to dating. Period.
It's a pure numbers game that is stacked in the AW's favor. Her options are limitless. Period. The same chick you are trying to talk to has 10+ guys trying to get at her at the exact same time. I recently went on a date in where I spent $80 bucks on dinner and drinks for the two of us, and everything went phenomenal. Great conversation, great body, she even had a great career. After the date we spent most of the night texting back and forth like a pair of high school teenagers.
The next day she was pretty much AWOL. When I finally caught up with her again, she told me she was getting dressed to go out for the night (as in, going out to the club or a bar). Again, her options are limitless. I was just one guy out of many that she could choose to spend her time with. Swipe left; swipe right. Just like with the Tinder dating app, for her there is always a hotter, wealthier guy just a swipe away.
The only disappointment for me in all of this is the time, money, and gas spent on this effort. Spending a ton of money on alcohol at bars, time spent sending and replying to messages on dating sites, going on dates and going home with blue balls; it all amounted to nothing. It was a good kick in the pants to remind me that nothing beats the old tried and true paying for pussy route. I mean, that's what we are all after to begin with (pussy). Everything else is just window dressing.
If you have never experienced life outside of the US, then I would highly encourage you to do it sooner rather than later. It will open your eyes to what ForceSteeler referenced above. If paying for sex was legal in the US, then women would lose the stranglehold they have over us overnight. Corporations need pussy whipped US Males to buy the nice car to impress AW's like I did (but hey, I love that car, with or without the AW, hahaha), take out large mortgages to finance that home with the well-manicured lawn, spend your entire paycheck on diamonds and other trinkets that your chick will be bored with by the end of the next day, etc.
If you have the financial means to get the hell out of Sex Prison, then I admire you and you SHOULD run for the nearest exit. The rest of us are just here bumbling around until we are able to be paroled for a short period of time (mongering trips).
So yeah, putting up with late chicas in Medellin beats trying to play the dating game in the US hands down. That $80 I spent on my dinner date here in the US could have been a memorable hour+ long session with a hot 9 or 10 anywhere else in the world. Lesson learned.
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Work or Vacation?
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1656607]I'm fresh off of an 8 day mongering vacation in Medellin over the Thanksgiving holiday in where I banged 20 different chicas with a handful of repeat sessions; and admittedly fellas, I was actually somewhat bored with this trip. The fb method I use while in Medellin can be tiring. You schedule for chicas to come over at a certain time and they are always late. Be it traffic or just them, if you ask a chica to be at your place at 2 pm, expect her to show up at 3 or 3:30, regardless of if you reminded her a day, hell, even two hours early about the 2 pm appointment. When chicas get there late it causes me to have to reshuffle a 4 pm appointment, which in turn causes me to have to reshuffle a 6 pm appointment. It just causes a ripple-effect cluster fuck and I was finding myself working rather than relaxing this trip. All of that was fucking exhausting![/QUOTE]Maybe you should try playing it a little differently for a change so it's not so much work. Instead of trying to schedule one liaison after another which requires you to stick to a tight schedule, just kind of show up and let it all unfold. Don't try to always plan every single thing. Like you already know, these girls can be so unreliable. I don't know where you like to monger or exactly how you like to do it, but I love places like the FKKs in Germany, the termas in Rio, the Hotel del Rey in Costa Rica, and Go-Go bars like in Thailand. They allow me to make sure my mongering vacation remains just that. A vacation and not a job! It's like going to the market to see what fresh produce is available that day LOL! If you see something you like, you buy it. And if you don't (not likely but it happens) then you just move on to the next shop or stall. It sounds like to me that you yourself make it too much exhausting work. Take it easy man. Like an athlete sometimes needs to be reminded, play within yourself and let the game come to you. Then it won't feel like so much hard work. And congratulations on choosing to be free!
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1656607]ForceSteeler forced me out of my posting hiatus with this post. Mostly because it currently hit home with what is currently going on in my life at this very moment.
I'm fresh off of an 8 day mongering vacation in Medellin over the Thanksgiving holiday in where I banged 20 different chicas with a handful of repeat sessions; and admittedly fellas, I was actually somewhat bored with this trip. The fb method I use while in Medellin can be tiring. You schedule for chicas to come over at a certain time and they are always late. Be it traffic or just them, if you ask a chica to be at your place at 2 pm, expect her to show up at 3 or 3:30, regardless of if you reminded her a day, hell, even two hours early about the 2 pm appointment. When chicas get there late it causes me to have to reshuffle a 4 pm appointment, which in turn causes me to have to reshuffle a 6 pm appointment. It just causes a ripple-effect cluster fuck and I was finding myself working rather than relaxing this trip. All of that was fucking exhausting!
I remember being in the shower after a session and saying to myself: "Man, I am going to chill on mongering for a bit and just give the home / local scene a chance. " Meaning, getting back into the dating game here at home. I am in my early 30's, in good shape, healthy, and never have any problems getting dates either online or offline. I was seriously going to hang up my mongering hat for a while, knowing I could always come back to it at a moments notice..[/QUOTE]Yeah, I never know why some guys are so against paying for pussy. To me your paying for it directly or indirectly, especially when your dealing with American women, and she is attractive. I see so many dudes buying expensive clothes, In The VIP section buying.
Thousands of dollars worth of champagne, high ass car notes, and getting themselves deep in debt in the name of trying to impress women and at the end of the day half your check is gone because of child support.
Also most women are undercover hookers anyway, deep down when you meet a women she knows within 10 seconds of meeting you if she is going to have sex with you or not. Most of them have a dollar figure in there head on how much you are going to spend before.
She gives you any pussy. (Going to the movies, dinner dates, expensive gifts, are all just Indirect ways of buying the pussy) which is why when a guys pulls up in a Ferrari (Expensive car), there are ready to have sex. There's no need play hard to get or play games.
But I understand the game, and I understand that Corporate America and Wall Street come up with new ways for us to spend money on bullshit that are not worth shit after you buy it and If you put women in control, but giving them WIC, welfare and section 8, they don't really need a man in the house. They can be choosey and picky on who they sleep with. So by making prostitution illegal and making sex scares is the reason you guy so many thirsty pussy whipped in America.
While in other countries like South America, Asia, Africa, etc. Women are not valued and worshiped because getting government assistance like welfare is non-existent. So they need a man for survival. If they don't have a man, life will be hard on them, so they will.
Be more submissive.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1656619]Maybe you should try playing it a little differently for a change so it's not so much work. Instead of trying to schedule one liaison after another which requires you to stick to a tight schedule, just kind of show up and let it all unfold. Don't try to always plan every single thing. Like you already know, these girls can be so unreliable. I don't know where you like to monger or exactly how you like to do it, but I love places like the FKKs in Germany, the termas in Rio, the Hotel del Rey in Costa Rica, and Go-Go bars like in Thailand. They allow me to make sure my mongering vacation remains just that. A vacation and not a job! It's like going to the market to see what fresh produce is available that day LOL! If you see something you like, you buy it. And if you don't (not likely but it happens) then you just move on to the next shop or stall. It sounds like to me that you yourself make it too much exhausting work. Take it easy man. Like an athlete sometimes needs to be reminded, play within yourself and let the game come to you. Then it won't feel like so much hard work. And congratulations on choosing to be free![/QUOTE]All the scheduling is a western habit because we are always so focused on time. In South America and other parts of the world, they are a lot more relaxed and time isn't as relevant. I had to learn that and when I travel now, I live more in the moment. Have a lot more fun that way.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1656680]All the scheduling is a western habit because we are always so focused on time. In South America and other parts of the world, they are a lot more relaxed and time isn't as relevant. I had to learn that and when I travel now, I live more in the moment. Have a lot more fun that way.[/QUOTE]It's not just a western habit, it varies from culture to culture. But in Latin America when someone says 10 for a party, business meeting, or whatever, it does not mean be there at 10 exactly. More like 11. If you arrive at 10 then prepare to be the only one there. So actually, SavePros' girls were right on time according to their culture.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1656607] "if you ask a chica to be at your place at 2 pm, expect her to show up at 3 or 3:30, regardless of if you reminded her a day, hell, even two hours early about the 2 pm appointment."
"After the date we spent most of the night texting back and forth like a pair of high school teenagers."[/QUOTE]It's usually the traffic they are stuck in, and they are taking the cheapest form of transpo to get to you. Also they are not expecting to walk into your sport f*uck session, but expect that since your from the US drinks and dinner can be part of the deal.
Whew! I thought you were going to say you were f*cking all night! Close call! Yeah, you went home to rub one out after getting played like a teenager. Glad you learned your lesson.
[QUOTE=TellAll;1656680]All the scheduling is a western habit because we are always so focused on time. In South America and other parts of the world, they are a lot more relaxed and time isn't as relevant. I had to learn that and when I travel now, I live more in the moment. Have a lot more fun that way.[/QUOTE]Good point. I vacillate between sport sessions and having a vacation wife of three or four days, which is so much more relaxing. Nothing better than having a very attractive hard body spoil you while your there.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1656845]It's usually the traffic they are stuck in, and they are taking the cheapest form of transpo to get to you. Also they are not expecting to walk into your sport f*uck session, but expect that since your from the US drinks and dinner can be part of the deal.
.[/QUOTE]For Medellin the cheapest form of transportation would be the bus, and no chica I have every had come over has taken the bus to get to my place. They all take taxis. So it's usually a combination of them, traffic, and the taxi driver not knowing where the hell he is going.
And no chica coming over to my place at 2 or 4 pm is expecting dinner, LOL. Drinks maybe, but I usually only offer dinner to chicas who are coming around the time I would be eating dinner, which would be around 7 or 8 pm.
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[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1656652]Also most women are undercover hookers anyway, deep down when you meet a women she knows within 10 seconds of meeting you if she is going to have sex with you or not. Most of them have a dollar figure in there head on how much you are going to spend before She gives you any pussy.[/QUOTE]Undercover hookers! I love it! Very true.
[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1656652] in other countries like South America ... getting government assistance like welfare is non-existent.[/QUOTE]Completely [B]un[/B]true in LatAm. You have food subsidies, socialized medicine, payments for having children, etc. in various forms in many South American countries. I have been to all the latin countries in South America. Subsidies are a major form of obtaining political support. This goes back to the times of the Inca, where they would co-opt neighboring tribes by giving them food, as the Inca had comparatively advanced methods of drying and storing food in addition to their fertile land. Most South American countries have public housing programs as well ("viviendas," for example). Transportation is also heavily subsidized.
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[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1656652]While in other countries like South America, Asia, Africa, etc. Women are not valued and worshiped because getting government assistance like welfare is non-existent. So they need a man for survival. [b]If they don't have a man, life will be hard on them[/b], so they will. Be more submissive.[/QUOTE]This is the bottom line. Its not about AW being any different from women in other countries. Its AW have FINANCIAL freedom. One way or another.
Whether its because they have careers or government assistance. But the bottom line. AW can take care of themselves.[QUOTE]Can't you read, I said I'm glad you got lucky. Do you even see WTF happened, and what you wrote? SHE initiated the whole thing, not you. You were just drooling in the corner over her. YOU used the words "opportunity" like somebody had to hand you something. Everybody lucks up on a piece every now and then here in America. IF you were so sure about YOUR money, personality and looks (and had a pair) you would have walked over and "got the digits" yourself. Your not understanding dude how this happens DAILY, hell hourly, everywhere EXCEPT with AW. Your also not seeing the big picture if your discounting the American puritanical ethics. One: that your not supposed to give up the pussy right away. Two: Your not suppose to have a thirty year age difference in who you bang- which is the POINT of the website. These rules of society put hesitation in your head to make the move and make it happen.
Read the post just above yours slick from Big Ass Eater. You think that's going to happen in the good ole USA unless your Hugh Hefner? Even the women he bangs go around writing books talking about how disgusting it was to bang an old man. Society forces women to stay in their lane when it comes to banging an older guy unless he is a "Sugar Daddy", and when you go holding hands in the mall, that same American society will point and make friggin remarks to your face. I choose to keep myself in shape by exercise and eating right, and not chubby chasing women with baggage "in my age group". No one dare says a thing to me in Nairobi when I stroll with my twenty-something's.[/QUOTE]I was not LUCKY. Just because she approached me BEFORE I approached her does not mean I would not have approached. It was just surprising as I did not think she would have approached me and waited for my move.
Secondly as ForceSteeler so eloquently put it. Women in the countries guys rave about. "NEED A MAN FOR SURVIVAL" . Becos most won't have the financial means to survive without one and / or need a man for security reason also. As being a single woman can be dangerous in those countries. For those reasons the women are reliant on having a Man. And Western men are PERCEIVED as being wealthy.
Its not Society that dictates woman don't date men 20 to 30 yrs older. Its NATURE. In those countries guys rave about you RARELY see women who come from financially secure families dating 20 to 30 yr older men. Why is that? . because they don't NEED or want to. And its not NATURAL. Very few financial secure women date men 20 to 30 yrs older. Period. In any country.
TG865 keeping it real. Peace.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1656982]Very few financial secure women date men 20 to 30 yrs older. Period. In any country.[/QUOTE]I do believe this is the first thing you've ever written that I agree with. And the ones who do usually have a pretty serious Electra complex. My opinion is that it's highly inadvisable to be with a woman who has or makes more money than you do, in any case.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1657001]I do believe this is the first thing you've ever written that I agree with. And the ones who do usually have a pretty serious Electra complex. My opinion is that it's highly inadvisable to be with a woman who has or makes more money than you do, in any case.[/QUOTE]Here in the US a woman that makes more than you will constantly rub your nose in it. They will tell you how they don't need a man, they have their own money.
They still don't have a problem spending your money.
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Yeah, they don't pay half even when they make double. Fuck 'them. I have three more weeks here this time around. It's been a long seven months.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1657032]Yeah, they don't pay half even when they make double. Fuck 'them. I have three more weeks here this time around. It's been a long seven months.[/QUOTE]I shit you not: during my brief foray back into online dating I was talking to a chick on the phone two days ago. At one point in the conversation she says: "I don't know what you are looking for, but I am not looking for anything serious. Just someone to go on a few dates with and have fun, and if something serious happens from there then so be it. ".
I, haven been around the block more than once, countered her with: "Yeah, I know what you are saying. That's why I always go Dutch. That way no one feels obligated to anything at the end of the night."
The line got so quiet you could hear a rat pissing on cotton: from HER side of the phone line, LOL! This byatch was basically trying to tell me that she's looking for someone who will pay for her fun, and if she decides she wants to have sex with you then lucky you. Otherwise don't expect anything else other than to enjoy her time with you on your (my) dime.
Escorts are cheaper! LOL.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1657059]I, haven been around the block more than once, countered her with: "Yeah, I know what you are saying. That's why I always go Dutch. That way no one feels obligated to anything at the end of the night."[/QUOTE]I think Dutch works for young people where everything is equal and appropriate. I'd look like a douche if I tried that at my age.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1657059]The line got so quiet you could hear a rat pissing on cotton[/QUOTE]Dude, that is the funniest thing I have heard all week. It's only Monday but still. Are you from maybe east Texas or Oklahoma? I knew a guy from Ardmore OK who had a bunch of those "It was so (blank) you could (blank)" type stuff. "My dick got so hard I dint have enough skin left to blink my eyes" was one I remember, along with "She was so tall I had to go up on her. " Great guy who got his ticket punched on US 287 one night near Boise City.
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[QUOTE=Riina;1657065]I think Dutch works for young people where everything is equal and appropriate. I'd look like a douche if I tried that at my age.[/QUOTE]Why be stuck in the old days of paying for dinner, gifts and being "Mr. Nice Guy", all the while wondering when your get her panties off. Why continue the dating games when that money is better spent on a gratuity to a sweet Pinay, big booty Kenyan, or Thai spinner, all under the age of 25, and leaving you the day to play golf, have a beer with your buddies or just do WTF you want with your life- despite your age.
Any middle-aged, unattached man in the USA, should take his vacations in Thailand, Costa Rica, hell even Tijuana! Your time and money is best spent furthering your education, and focusing on your health to keep pace with this QUICKLY CHANGING society to keep up! Your age will be your enemy not only in the dating game, but the employment game also- which is way more important than chasing p*ssy. No money-No honey.
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[QUOTE=Riina;1657065]I think Dutch works for young people where everything is equal and appropriate. I'd look like a douche if I tried that at my age.[/QUOTE]You only feel that way because you have been conditioned that a man pays for a woman. Guys like SavePros are trying to break that spell. As you saw in his example, the women are caught off guard when a man tries to take this route that they are not accustomed to. I don't know if you have read his report about a year ago about when he went to lunch with a chick and she piled all kind of food on her tray, then when she found out he was not paying she was no longer hungry. That shit is a classic. It's a sad day when a broad won't even feed herself without the assistance of your money.
If you think going dutch is hard, try getting them to pay for you. I have no problem doing things for women who I know would do the same for me, but when I know they won't then there is no sense in me even wasting my time. I'm not pressed for pussy. I can get that anytime.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1657232]Why be stuck in the old days of paying for dinner, gifts and being "Mr. Nice Guy", all the while wondering when your get her panties off. Why continue the dating games when that money is better spent on a gratuity to a sweet Pinay, big booty Kenyan, or Thai spinner, all under the age of 25, and leaving you the day to play golf, have a beer with your buddies or just do WTF you want with your life- despite your age.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1657244]You only feel that way because you have been conditioned that a man pays for a woman. Guys like SavePros are trying to break that spell.[/QUOTE]Yeah, don't buy into that old school "White Knight" way of thinking like these two have already mentioned Riina. Nowadays women make just as much as their male counterparts, if not more; despite the "War on Women / Pay Inequality" bullshit MSLSD and the other alphabet news networks try to pump you with.
I have a 23 yr old coworker who started at the same time I did, and we are both the same pay grade. We both happen to make a very decent amount of coin. She openly brags about how she never pays for any drinks when she goes out to bars or nightclubs. She also told me she can judge how generous a guy will be with her in a relationship based on the amount of the tip he leaves; for a meal her ass didn't even pay for! And part of her criteria was that the tip had to be generous regardless of if the service was shitty.
I have broken my rule of not paying for other women's meals from time to time, but not often. The chick from my post yesterday made the mistake of laying all her cards on the table at once without realizing she was dealing with someone who was not a pussy-starved sucker who would roll out the red carpet and do whatever she wanted just for the honor and privilege of being in her presence.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1656982]This is the bottom line. Its not about AW being any different from women in other countries. Its AW have FINANCIAL freedom. One way or another.
Secondly as ForceSteeler so eloquently put it. Women in the countries guys rave about. "NEED A MAN FOR SURVIVAL" . Becos most won't have the financial means to survive. Its not Society that dictates woman don't date men 20 to 30 yrs older. Its NATURE. In those countries guys rave about you RARELY see women who come from financially secure families dating 20 to 30 yr older men. Why is that? . because they don't NEED or want to. And its not NATURAL. Very few financial secure women date men 20 to 30 yrs older. Period. In any country.[/QUOTE]Exactly. And in those other countries here's what they think about you.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1657244] Guys like SavePros are trying to break that spell. [/QUOTE]Yea, and we know that's a tremendous turn on for American women, a guy who's trying to break the paradigm. A real panty dropper.
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Isn't that the truth!
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1657294]I have a 23 yr old coworker who started at the same time I did, and we are both the same pay grade. We both happen to make a very decent amount of coin. She openly brags about how she never pays for any drinks when she goes out to bars or nightclubs. She also told me she can judge how generous a guy will be with her in a relationship based on the amount of the tip he leaves; for a meal her ass didn't even pay for! And part of her criteria was that the tip had to be generous regardless of if the service was shitty.[/QUOTE]They're going to sit there and judge you based on how much you tip and their asses aren't paying for shit ever! Shows you how generous they're going to be with the pussy you think? I had a buddy who got pissed when he took a woman out to dinner at a nice restaurant and she barely even touched her meal after ordering all of this expensive food. He wanted to know why she wasn't eating and she got all pissy about it. Like it was totally OK for her to sit there on her ass and order all that food and barely touch any of it just because she could, wasting somebody else's money. And get this, she got uber pissed off when he tried to have it boxed up so that she could take it home! I don't know what the fuck is wrong with these women. I bet if she had been paying for it she'd see it differently then. I would have had it boxed up and took it home for my own damn self! I don't spend my money dating anymore, and that leaves me with more of it to go around on everything else, including the tutes!
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1657317]Exactly. And in those other countries here's what they think about you.[/QUOTE]At least they are fucking you. In the US you are their ATM and you don't get shit for it.
Over there when you wise up you can leave and the ATM is closed. In the US when you leave, it will cost you half of what you own.
Don't assume just because an AW makes her own money she won't try to take as much of yours as she can.
You are nothing more than an income subsidy.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1657022]Here in the US a woman that makes more than you will constantly rub your nose in it. They will tell you how they don't need a man, they have their own money.
They still don't have a problem spending your money.[/QUOTE]This is true. I have experienced this several times and remain a happy bachelor thanks to the abundance of worldwide snatch that trumps anything in the USA Women here think their pussy is made of gold and many don't realize the competition from willing foreign beauties.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1656982]This is the bottom line. Its not about AW being any different from women in other countries. Its AW have FINANCIAL freedom. .[/QUOTE]If financial freedom means taking half my shyt, then yes, they have financial freedom. And I do commend women that earn degrees, and put off family for career. But as we all know, the blue collar man is not good enough for those women. They are waiting for the doctor or lawyer to come along. They see those," Every gift begins with Kay" commercials and see themselves, LOL! When I got laid off from Sony, I took a Wal-Mart job to feed myself rather than take unemployment. The former regional manager for Sports Authority worked with me. Shyt was bad. But when women see you working at the W, your like a buck-toothed idiot. Just a couple years later I was making 125k. F*ck u biatches.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1656982]Secondly as ForceSteeler so eloquently put it. Women in the countries guys rave about. "NEED A MAN FOR SURVIVAL" . And Western men are PERCEIVED as being wealthy.Its not Society that dictates woman don't date men 20 to 30 yrs older. Its NATURE. In those countries guys rave about you RARELY see women who come from financially secure families dating 20 to 30 yr older men. Why is that? . because they don't NEED or want to. And its not NATURAL. Very few financial secure women date men 20 to 30 yrs older. Period. In any country.TG865 keeping it real. Peace.[/QUOTE]Not saying some or all of that isn't true. I don't make the rules I just take advantage of them. Women everywhere are going to need a man a some point, for some reason, even if it's just to lift shyt. That argument is pointless. I do know, however, that those women in other countries know good and well that American men are conditioned from birth to work hard, and know that big trouble is awaiting if they beat them. That's why we are immediately the Alpha male over there. It is natural to f*ck the Alpha male. The fact that you are in their country in the first place means you have enough to travel. Yeah, Mr. E paints an ugly picture. Nobody said you have to marry them.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1657375]At least they are fucking you. In the US you are their ATM and you don't get shit for it.
[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more! I'll take the "Uncle Moneybags Gringo" label any day as long as I am tapping that ass long and strong!
If "tia", "hermana", or "prima" needs some financial assistance then they'd better be ready to drop them panties too. If "madre" or "abuela" are sexy, then they can get the dick as well.
Now, where could you say and pull off the same here in the US?
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Paying for dates
Not to detract from anyone else's experiences, but in my limited experience, I virtually always offer to pay for my AW date's food / movie / entry ticket / etc. In most cases, the girl I'm with usually wants to pay her own way. I actually argue with them to let me pay, and often, I will win this argument only if I agree to let them pay for next time. Or, if I buy dinner, they absolutely insist on paying for the movie or whatever. I've always assumed that she does this because she doesn't want to leave the impression that she "owes" me something or that the outing was / is a romantic one.
So, on the rare occasion that an AW lets me pay, she is sort of acknowledging that the outing is a romantic one and for this reason, it is ok for her to let me pay. If the girl believes we are on a date, then I am more than happy to pay. In my opinion, this cost is a small price for good times, nice company and conversation, even if she doesn't put out. The alternative is to be lonely until my next trip, so the cost of a nice date is rather insignificant, at least for me.
Just my experience. I recognize I may be in a different age bracket than others here and I recognize too that many of us are from different parts of the USA.
Just my experience and thoughts.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1657403]Not to detract from anyone else's experiences, but in my limited experience, I virtually always offer to pay for my AW date's food / movie / entry ticket / etc. In most cases, the girl I'm with usually wants to pay her own way. I actually argue with them to let me pay, and often, I will win this argument only if I agree to let them pay for next time. Or, if I buy dinner, they absolutely insist on paying for the movie or whatever. I've always assumed that she does this because she doesn't want to leave the impression that she "owes" me something or that the outing was / is a romantic one.
So, on the rare occasion that an AW lets me pay, she is sort of acknowledging that the outing is a romantic one and for this reason, it is ok for her to let me pay. If the girl believes we are on a date, then I am more than happy to pay. In my opinion, this cost is a small price for good times, nice company and conversation, even if she doesn't put out. The alternative is to be lonely until my next trip, so the cost of a nice date is rather insignificant, at least for me.
Just my experience. I recognize I may be in a different age bracket than others here and I recognize too that many of us are from different parts of the USA.
Just my experience and thoughts.[/QUOTE]UltraHappy,
This is not rare or infrequent occurrence. Its a common practice for AW to offer to pay. I have had dinner bought for me on several occasions by women.
This thread is more about guys venting their anger at either their lack of success with AW or bitterness towards them from a bad divorce.
America is too large and diverse for anyone to pinpoint how all women act. There are women of every race, nationality, religion, and financial level.
This has more to do with guys who base their relationships with all women on the same level as hookers. Any time or money is spent with a woman, then sex is owed. Period end of story. Regardless, whether no connection was made, its. "I spent, we fuck now" .
So they go to a 3rd world country where needier women can use them for their money. The difference, since she's poorer and needier, its cheaper and she's shows more gratitude since her need is greater. Its the financial security he brings to the table.
They are just going to a place where now they become the "Donald Trump's" of the city. "Poverty and hunger is a hell of a thing".
TG865 peace.
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This thread is more about guys venting their anger at either their lack of success with AW or bitterness towards them from a bad divorce.
America is too large and diverse for anyone to pinpoint how all women act. There are women of every race, nationality, religion, and financial level.
So they go to a 3rd world country where needier women can use them for their money. The difference, since she's poorer and needier, its cheaper and she's shows more gratitude since her need is greater. Its the financial security he brings to the table.
They are just going to a place where now they become the "Donald Trump's" of the city. "Poverty and hunger is a hell of a thing".
TG865 peace.[/QUOTE]I am just calling it how I experience it. I am giving people my POV from someone who is able to get dates without too much work, but would rather not spend the time jumping through hoops trying to get laid when their are alternate paths of least resistance.
My question to you is what do you get out of trying to sell your angle amongst a board full of veteran world travelers on a hoar board? If you have never gone to another country to pay for ass they you are completely out of your league here. You have no world experience and are just telling your view one-sided (from the North American POV).
If you HAVE paid for pussy in another country, then your statements above (especially the "Donald Trump" quip) makes you the ultimate hypocrite! Who would take anything you say with any seriousness?
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1657484]"I spent, we fuck now" [/QUOTE]Everything in life takes the path of least resistance. Including my dick!
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1657662]I am just calling it how I experience it. I am giving people my POV from someone who is able to get dates without too much work, but would rather not spend the time jumping through hoops trying to get laid when their are alternate paths of least resistance.
My question to you is what do you get out of trying to sell your angle amongst a board full of veteran world travelers on a hoar board? If you have never gone to another country to pay for ass they you are completely out of your league here. You have no world experience and are just telling your view one-sided (from the North American POV).
If you HAVE paid for pussy in another country, then your statements above (especially the "Donald Trump" quip) makes you the ultimate hypocrite! Who would take anything you say with any seriousness?[/QUOTE]You mean on the same boat. I love mongering in the other countries because I don't have to waste money or time on dates and bullshit, In my Mongering Career I have been all over the world and I have fucked over 800 women and counting. And I only been mongering for 4 Years now. The average guy in the USA can't say they fucked over 800 women in 4 years, unless there a Multi-Millionare, Entertainer, Actor, or Athlete. Mongering has change my life it really opens your eyes on your value as a man. Some People may hate and.
Say why spend money on pussy, but at the end of the day. I always tell them, enjoy life for now, in life there is no Part 2, There is no sequel to your life. So enjoy it. At the end of the day, your only going to get old, don't live in regret.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1657662]If you HAVE paid for pussy in another country, then your statements above (especially the "Donald Trump" quip) makes you the ultimate hypocrite! Who would take anything you say with any seriousness?[/QUOTE]I don't recall TG saying do not go overseas to pay for pussy. He has just made an explanation of the male / female dynamics, which holds true damn near anywhere. And I totally agree with him. You see many guys come on here and bash the chicks where they live saying how fat and unattractive they are. Well I'm in Rio right now and I can tell you that there are just as many fat and unattractive women here. This is not a country full of Gisselles. The difference is that the men appreciate the women they have. You will see a handsome guy walking down the street hand in hand with his girlfriend who may be overweight or not the best looking thing out there. But he makes her feel loved and they could give a shit what other people think.
But back to the TG issue. Why do you never see Mayweather or Puff Daddy in Angeles or Sosua? Because they have long money. They are millionaires where they live so they can just walk outside or go to Vegas or Miami and get the baddest chicks they can find. They don't need to go to a third world country to seem rich. If any guy on this board says that if he had the money then he would not do the same then he is a liar. We go places where our money will be long and what we are doing seems the same to the locals as what those other sports figures and musicians doing back home seem to us. I don't see guys on this board planning trips to places like London or Moscow where P4 P is available, but will put a big ass hole in your bank account.
Rio is a perfect example. 10 and 12 years ago the Rio board was hot. But since the currency fucked up you don't see many guys reporting that they went to Rio and did what guys said years ago. The board is pretty dead with the same guys reporting over and over. I for one moved from Rio to Thailand when everything fucked up so I am a living example. I go for regular chicks as well as P4 P because I want to. I'm not about to sit up here and make all kinds of excuses as to why I do P4 P or hang out in third world countries though, (eg. The women back home drove me to with because of their looks or attitude.) A movie ticket costs me $3 in Thailand as opposed to what in Californina? This shit is not brain surgery and it does make sense to go and find chicks where your money will go farther. But denying it makes no sense at all.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1657662]If you HAVE paid for pussy in another country, then your statements above (especially the "Donald Trump" quip) makes you the ultimate hypocrite! Who would take anything you say with any seriousness?[/QUOTE]SavePros,
You are wrong.
I have traveled the world and making my statement doesn't make me a hypocrite. I do not disagree that guys are treated better by women in 3rd world countries. I too partake of their generosity.
But...
I don't bash AW. Just because I can go to a 3rd world country where I'm considered rich, therefore desirable to even young "Poor" women.
I don't expect AW to be as desperate for a man as a 3rd world woman. Western women are at the top of the "Food chain" as far as women go in this world.
They have more rights, freedoms, financial capabilities and safety nets. Therefore with all western women in general, one has to be realistic, if you want the cream of the crop, its a two way street, so do they. They have the freedom to only be with men they have a sexual desire to be with OR also like the 3rd world woman. Improves their status financially or socially. So if you're not a millionaire, that means for the most part. You have to be as desirable to her as she is to you.
Trust me. I know women in other countries treat guys much better than AW. I get that. I am just saying its because of their financial situation because of where they live.
Bring that same woman back to the you. S, Let her get a job, car and friends. See if she is with you 10 yrs down the road. I know so many stories of guys who did just that and got rude awakenings. Many left almost as soon as they got permanent status. So its not that they are better. Its they are needier.
For me the mongering thing is a vacation thing for me. It's like guys who go camping for a couple of weeks. They love the fresh air, woods and fishing. But that doesn't mean they want to live in the woods.
I know the treatment from the women is not because they are just naturally nice to all men and just eager to please. We are walking ATMs for them. But as a vacation / escape from the real world for a couple of weeks. It can't be beat.
TG865 . Peace.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1657719] He has just made an explanation of the male / female dynamics, which holds true damn near anywhere. And I totally agree with him. [/QUOTE]I don't see his or your professional certifications on the subject. This is a pussy forum. I will, however, acknowledge that women used to be treated like crap in this country. When a pendulum swings, it does not stop in the middle, it goes to the opposite side. That opposite side is: women getting custody of our children almost automatically, especially under false accusations from women. Men being portrayed as idiots on TV, (and there's one in almost every home influencing this society), having to go through some dating ritual to get laid. Make prostitution legal in the USA? Women will make sure it does not happen. No man will ever go to a regular chick again.
This ain't about Mayweather or Puffy, who can be taken down much harder by a woman (or their dick in the wrong woman) than ever I could be. If I won lotto, I could get those same women. So what's that say about the woman? TG IS a hypocrite. He has posted about AC pussy, but extolls the virtues of the AW. I got nothing really against them. I just am against the system that has handed the keys to the AW that kicks the AM in the balls.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1657719]This is not a country full of Gisselles. But back to the TG issue. Why do you never see Mayweather or Puff Daddy in Angeles or Sosua? Because they have long money. They are millionaires where they live so they can just walk outside or go to Vegas or Miami and get the baddest chicks they can find. They don't need to go to a third world country to seem rich. If any guy on this board says that if he had the money then he would not do the same then he is a liar. We go places where our money will be long and what we are doing seems the same to the locals as what those other sports figures and musicians doing back home seem to us.[/QUOTE]It all depends. You see, if I had acquired long money in the USA before I started mongering, then yeah I would tend to agree with you. But now that I have become a veteran monger, if I hit the lottery tomorrow and became a multimillionaire many times over, knowing what I know now I absolutely would continue to monger overseas. No way would I stop flying all around the world fucking these pretty girls in the ass! Hell, I would do it more! Yeah, I would play more in the States too, but I would continue to monger overseas. Without a doubt I would not stop it. I would do it even more at this stage of my life. And lastly, did you mean full of "gazelles"? Or maybe you meant a bunch of "Gisele Bundchens" strutting around LOL!
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So how many guys here would still be going to PI or DR and saying how great the women are if pussy was $200/ pop?
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1657786]So how many guys here would still be going to PI or DR and saying how great the women are if pussy was $200/ pop?[/QUOTE]I like to go to the German FKKs where an hour session with anal will cost me 200 or about $250. So yeah, I would. Where do I sign?
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1657775]It all depends. You see, if I had acquired long money in the USA before I started mongering, then yeah I would tend to agree with you. But now that I have become a veteran monger, if I hit the lottery tomorrow and became a multimillionaire many times over, knowing what I know now I absolutely would continue to monger overseas. No way would I stop flying all around the world fucking these pretty girls in the ass! Hell, I would do it more! Yeah, I would play more in the States too, but I would continue to monger overseas. Without a doubt I would not stop it. I would do it even more at this stage of my life. And lastly, did you mean full of "gazelles"? Or maybe you meant a bunch of "Gisele Bundchens" strutting around LOL![/QUOTE]I would have to agree with Cane. I can date if I choose. I can afford to buy hot women here in the US. I could even have Sugar Babies if I want. I choose to go overseas because I can fuck hot young women the way I like with little effort. I like the way they treat me and they like the way I treat them whatever their reason. We both are getting what we want and that seems fair to me.
The problem that I have in the US is as time goes on, things get more and more one sided and not in my favor. God help you if you have a couple kids together, you really become a slave.
Fortunately I learned early how one sided the game is in the US. I never married and never had any desire to. I love to travel and I love fucking so I know how I will spend the rest of my days.
I love the clarity.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1657786]So how many guys here would still be going to PI or DR and saying how great the women are if pussy was $200/ pop?[/QUOTE]People fly overseas for the girlfriend experience. You can buy pussy on backpage but who wants to pay $200 for a Rush Nut. When I can pay $35-40 bucks for a girl in the Philippines that will stay with you the whole day. The Hookers are better overseas. Plain and simple.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1656607]
You schedule for chicas to come over at a certain time and they are always late. Be it traffic or just them, if you ask a chica to be at your place at 2 pm, expect her to show up at 3 or 3:30, regardless of if you reminded her a day, hell, even two hours early about the 2 pm appointment. When chicas get there late it causes me to have to reshuffle a 4 pm appointment, which in turn causes me to have to reshuffle a 6 pm appointment. It just causes a ripple-effect cluster fuck and I was finding myself working rather than relaxing this trip. All of that was fucking exhausting!
[/QUOTE]You had a 2 pm, a 4 pm and a 6 pm appointment. I admire and salute your stamina and willingness to live on the edge from a scheduling perspective I usually book an 11 am then schedule the 4 pm which gives a little more room to maneuver and if the god are willing (read my old ass has more energy) I add a night appointment. But it is a little like herding cats.
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[QUOTE=Sexmetv;1660080]You had a 2 pm, a 4 pm and a 6 pm appointment. I admire and salute your stamina and willingness to live on the edge from a scheduling perspective I usually book an 11 am then schedule the 4 pm which gives a little more room to maneuver and if the god are willing (read my old ass has more energy) I add a night appointment. But it is a little like herding cats.[/QUOTE]Believe it or not, but in looking back at my notes there was one day in where I had 6 chicas come over. Mostly a result of either a fav or a chica I really wanted to see needing to either bump up our meeting a day, or delay it. So I had to slot in other chicas in order to keep with my schedule. There were other days where I saw 5 chicas in one day.
And yes, I was literally crawling back to the airport after this trip, LOL. Not going to go balls to the walls like that again though. Too much work.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1657484]UltraHappy,
This has more to do with guys who base their relationships with all women on the same level as hookers. Any time or money is spent with a woman, then sex is owed. Period end of story. Regardless, whether no connection was made, its. "I spent, we fuck now" .
So they go to a 3rd world country where needier women can use them for their money. The difference, since she's poorer and needier, its cheaper and she's shows more gratitude since her need is greater. Its the financial security he brings to the table.
They are just going to a place where now they become the "Donald Trump's" of the city. "Poverty and hunger is a hell of a thing".
TG865 peace.[/QUOTE]I think if we are being totally honest, this about sums it up. It's really about power at the end of the day, and in a third world country our first world dollar gives us that power. I am from Canada and from my experiences the women here (middle / upper middle class) are no better or worse than other women in the world (in the same class), some are awesome, most are miserable and a few are crazy. That said, I monger not because I dislike the women in my home country or think them deficient in some way (in fact I like them and constantly pursue sex with them), I monger because of pure economics, $65-$75 dollars for an incredibly beautiful woman (in Havana, Medellin, DR) and I get to pretend I'm the most awesome thing that happened to her in the last hour.
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[QUOTE=Sexmetv;1660093]I think if we are being totally honest, this about sums it up. It's really about power at the end of the day, and in a third world country our first world dollar gives us that power. I am from Canada and from my experiences the women here (middle / upper middle class) are no better or worse than other women in the world (in the same class), some are awesome, most are miserable and a few are crazy. That said, I monger not because I dislike the women in my home country or think them deficient in some way (in fact I like them and constantly pursue sex with them), I monger because of pure economics, $65-$75 dollars for an incredibly beautiful woman (in Havana, Medellin, DR) and I get to pretend I'm the most awesome thing that happened to her in the last hour.[/QUOTE]And who can argue with that. Nobody is saying that dude is not right to some extent. I, for one, am completely tired of his bitching at the forum for doing exactly what it asks for- Giving our opinion about AW. Is not the same thing happening in the USA? AW conniving to get the highest earner to make her life easier, whether he stays with her or not, the biatch is going to get hers. Except what also comes with that is the fact that laws are stacked against AM. I'm also supposed to kiss the ass of the fat, feminazi, AKA the AW.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1660122] Except what also comes with that is the fact that laws are stacked against AM. [/QUOTE]I don't see this as being true.
No one forces any man to marry and the laws have not gotten worst, if anything better. Any man who got married. Went into it knowing the consequences of a 50/50 split if / when you divorce. Very few women receive alimony these days. So the only other payment is child support. Also something a man knew could / would happen and should accept.
Now some guys may be bitter because they feel the women got more then they deserve thru divorce. But the woman is not to blame.
Its the system. And who created the system. Men. Who more often than not is presiding over the child support rulings. Men. So be mad at AM for the laws men created.
"Don't hate the player. Hate the game".
TG865,
Peace
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Tell that to the guy whose ex was awarded one-billion in the settlement, but told the judge it's not good enough.
I speak from experiance. The judge was making alimony automatic, despite her having a job. The only time my lawyer earned his money is when he quickly tapped dance me out of it. I was attacked by the feminazi court mediator before my ass was in the seat good. Who here has not experianced the pure venom of a woman in divorce. The system has bent over backwards to accomodate them. I was bitter for awhile, but my ex and I get along, I even give her dating advice.
You really need to find a (Y) chromosome. Now me excuse while I throw tomatos at the the TV as my hero Charlie Harper gets engaged on 3 (1/2) M.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1660197]Tell that to the guy whose ex was awarded one-billion in the settlement, but told the judge it's not good enough.
I speak from experiance. The judge was making alimony automatic, despite her having a job. The only time my lawyer earned his money is when he quickly tapped dance me out of it. I was attacked by the feminazi court mediator before my ass was in the seat good. Who here has not experianced the pure venom of a woman in divorce. The system has bent over backwards to accomodate them. I was bitter for awhile, but my ex and I get along, I even give her dating advice.
You really need to find a (Y) chromosome. Now me excuse while I throw tomatos at the the TV as my hero Charlie Harper gets engaged on 3 (1/2) M.[/QUOTE]I'm sure ThatGuy865 is a cool guy in person, but he displays way too many Beta Male qualities. I almost want to believe that the real TG865 has moved on from ISG and somehow his wife / ex has commandeered his account and is posting this stuff, LOL.
[I]"18 years, 18 years
She got one of your kids, got you for 18 years
I know somebody paying child support for one of his kids
His baby mammas car and crib is bigger than his
You will see him on TV any given Sunday
Win the Superbowl and drive off in a Hyundai
She was supposed to buy your shorty TYCO with your money
She went to the doctor got lypo with your money
She walking around looking like Michael (Jackson) with your money
Shouldve got that insured got GEICO for your money, money, money
If you aint no punk holla we want prenup
WE WANT PRENUP! Yeah
Its something that you need to have
Cause when she leave yo ass she gonna leave with half
18 years, 18 years
And on her 18th birthday found out the kid wasn't his..."
Gold Digger - Kanye West[/I]
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1660197]Tell that to the guy whose ex was awarded one-billion in the settlement, but told the judge it's not good enough.
I speak from experiance. The judge was making alimony automatic, despite her having a job. The only time my lawyer earned his money is when he quickly tapped dance me out of it. I was attacked by the feminazi court mediator before my ass was in the seat good. Who here has not experianced the pure venom of a woman in divorce. The system has bent over backwards to accomodate them. I was bitter for awhile, but my ex and I get along, I even give her dating advice.
You really need to find a (Y) chromosome. Now me excuse while I throw tomatos at the the TV as my hero Charlie Harper gets engaged on 3 (1/2) M.[/QUOTE]Don't forget the most important fact. When you get rid of an AW, any secret you told her that can hurt you becomes public knowledge. She will even make shit up if it can cause you problems. She will do this even if she gets what she wants in a split.
Sometimes it even cost them and they don't seem to care.
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This is an article a wingman sent me yesterday that may be of interest to some:
[URL]http://www.takenbythewind.com/2010/09/17/are-north-american-women-really-that-bad/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1660387]This is an article a wingman sent me yesterday that may be of interest to some:
[URL]http://www.takenbythewind.com/2010/09/17/are-north-american-women-really-that-bad/[/URL][/QUOTE]From the comments section, it sounds like the answer is still a resounding YES, LOL:
[i]January 10,2011 Joe:
I'm married to one of those ultra shallow, no good, lazy, American women. I find NOTHING good about them in general. American women are gross and unladylike. They are greedy and extremely self-centered. If people dig in Google they will find a million websites and pages, blogs and postings about how horrible they are. Catch phrase "American Women suck". If I could find a way to unload this rotten ***** I'm with now and get a foreign girl, I'd do it in a second![/i]
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I am divorced but she did not take me to the cleaners and I am not bitter. Now, why did it work out that way? Because we actually knew each other for several years, and had lived together, before we decided to get married. A [B]lot[/B] of these guys who are complaining about how terrible their wives are / were only knew them for a couple of months. I actually have two friends who have each married women they knew for only a few weeks, or in one of the marriages, a few [B]days[/B]. And, believe it or not, [B]both of these guys have done this twice![/B] We are talking about college educated people here. I only knew one of the four wives, and she is the biggest ***** I have ever met, ugly to boot, and doesn't like sex. One of the other wives called me on the phone after he ran off with a stripper. I had never met this woman. She called me every name in the book and threatened me with everything in the book. I just laughed. The only thing even remotely funny was that he proceeded to burglarize her apartment and steal the ring back. I do give him points for that. The other guy, who married the ugly one, I asked him why he did it. His answer? "I just wanted to try something different. " Hello? How is it different? Oh, I know. The first woman you met and married after six weeks was good looking and rich. Shoulda stuck with that.
American men are stupid about women, gullible as hell, unwilling to learn from their mistakes, and live in a dream world.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1660387]This is an article a wingman sent me yesterday that may be of interest to some:
[URL]http://www.takenbythewind.com/2010/09/17/are-north-american-women-really-that-bad/[/URL][/QUOTE]Look at whatelse I found in the comments section:
[I]October 27, 2011 Irene
I am a Colombian girl studying in the US, back in Colombia and while I lived in Europe, I was able to make many connections with women; I am straight but women were always open to me being a woman and actually trying to be friends, it's here in the USA where women according to my experience tend to be ABSOLUTELY AND TOTAL BITCHES!! Sorry but I have never been exposed to such megalomaniacs, competitive, bitchy, angry, psycho, fake, plastic women in my entire life!!! American men on the other hand, strike me as a bit dumb, but very easygoing and open to new people and experiences. I have NOT had a problem finding dates in America, in fact I found my fiance here, an all American boy from Wisconsin who treat me like a princess, but guess what American women..... I EARNED THAT RESPECT AND LOVE. In my country you GIVE IN ORDER TO RECEIVE; I work out because in my country a woman is expected to stay in shape, I wear dresses, skirts, make up because I ENJOY BEING A WOMAN.... women here don't understand the concept of feminity and think feminity = weakness. For example I love cooking, my mom taught me how to cook because it's a mother - daughter bonding thing in my culture, and guess what? I cook for me and my American boyfriend, to the point he now wants to learn how to cook... good luck finding an American girl who can coo, most of his friends dating American women just get chinese or pizza while the slob of an American girlfriend sits there in her pijamas waiting for the food delivery to arrive while drinking beer....... women here have been nothing but evil towards me, and it's because of how I dress, of how I act, they assume I am being fake and pretensious but this is who I am.... I can sense a deep sense of jeaousy in them because they think that by me being feminine and enjoying catering to my man, I am being a fake girl! Let's not even talk about sex, American women have so many hang ups and think Sex is a tool to control men..... it's pathetic but I was branded as a **** because I said I enjoy pleasing my man and being pleased by him. NO WONDER AMERICAN WOMEN OVERSEAS HAVE SUCH A DIFFICULTY FINDING MEN![/I]
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1660207]I'm sure ThatGuy865 is a cool guy in person, but he displays way too many Beta Male qualities. I almost want to believe that the real TG865 has moved on from ISG and somehow his wife / ex has commandeered his account and is posting this stuff, LOL.[/QUOTE]Actually. I've been married twice. And both divorces ended without me being fleeced.
I state from not only my experience but for many that I know. Sure some had to sell the house and split the proceeds. But that is known.
The AVG person does not pay alimony any longer [B]if the wife has a job[/B]. If your wife was a "stay at home" wife during your marriage then you knew you would have to pay alimony when divorced. What do you expect. She's been out of the work force for years.
These are no new facts, its been this way since marriage has began. So whose fault is it. [B]You asked her[/B] to marry you and probably bought an expense ring when you did it. And now you're bitter and blaming AW for your bad choices in life.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1660448]Actually. I've been married twice. And both divorces ended without me being fleeced.
I state from not only my experience but for many that I know. Sure some had to sell the house and split the proceeds. But that is known.
The AVG person does not pay alimony any longer [B]if the wife has a job[/B]. If your wife was a "stay at home" wife during your marriage then you knew you would have to pay alimony when divorced. What do you expect. She's been out of the work force for years.
These are no new facts, its been this way since marriage has began. So whose fault is it. [B]You asked her[/B] to marry you and probably bought an expense ring when you did it. And now you're bitter and blaming AW for your bad choices in life.[/QUOTE]I was married once, not entirely out of love, but a willingness to help someone out. Now in the end I got out scot free and she did not try to fleece me and asked for nothing. But knowing that the rules are stacked against me made me very nervous at the time.
I supported her through her education, by supporting her financially, she never supported me financially at all, and by proof reading and writing her papers. There is no way she would have graduated with the average that she had and gone on to a high paying job later on without my help.
I did have investments abroad. Yes she stayed and home and I supported her, then why should she be able to fleece me during a divorce. Why should she be able to take what I worked hard for while I was supporting her and enabling her to earn her own living?
In the end she felt too guilty to try to fleece me and did not ask for anything, but had she tried the courts would have taken her side. Now like the other men on this forum I will be extremely cautious about marriage and so forth. Yes the rules are known, but they are nonetheless stacked against men.
When a woman stays at home, most of the time it is a conscious choice to not have to work and be supported and live comfortably. She knows what the implications for her future working prospects are. Why in that case should a court decide to reward her for years of idleness. That is totally ridiculous and the rules are in fact stacked against men.
All these men are saying is that the rules are stacked against men. Why do you think women are so happy to get married? So that they have the power to blackmail you in the future, what does a man get out of it?
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1660448]
These are no new facts, its been this way since marriage has began. So whose fault is it. [B]You asked her[/B] to marry you and probably bought an expense ring when you did it. And now you're bitter and blaming AW for your bad choices in life.[/QUOTE]Well thankfully I've never been married or ever plan on being married. I also do not have any kids by any AW's.
As far as blaming AW's for my bad choices in life, I am sure you are speaking in general (not directly to me). So far I've done everything right: served my country (did not fall into the trap of marrying my high school sweetheart or the first chick I met right out of boot camp, as did my fellow military brethren); got money for college; worked full time AND went to school full time while keeping my head low, which did not do me any favors as far as my dating or sex life was concerned (actually, I found out about mongering my 2nd year in college, so it was not too hard to stay focused and grind all semester and then go on a week-long bang-a-thon to the DR at the end of the semester); found a great paying job after college; and the rest is history.
I liken my trek to the song "30 Something" by Jay Z in where he says:
[I]"30's the new 20 ni**a I'm so hot still
better broad, better auto mobile"[/I]
I was broke for most of my 20's while I was trying to finish school. I went to class by day, and was a security guard by night. You would think chicks would think it noble that a young guy with no kids or excess baggage was trying to better his lot in life by holding down a steady job while going to school to get his degree, but nope. If you weren't balling right then and there then they would not give you a second look. They were not interested in coming along for the long ride: they said "pick me up once you get there." Shit didn't start to turn around for me until my very late 20's and early 30's.
So am I somewhat bitter about AW over that? I was, until I found out about mongering.
The entire time I was in school I was like: "Man, just wait until I get my degree. Then I'll get the best chick and be living the American Dream (trophy wife, big-ass house, nice cars, kids)."
Mongering changed my perspective on all that shit. I realized I can have the best chick I want, when I want, for as long as I want, without the other bullshit that comes along with having a relationship. As long as my passport has not expired and has enough pages in it, I am good!
So for me, there is nothing to be bitter about when it comes to AW's. I only share my experiences with dealing with them. I've already written them off. When I look at my future there are no AW's present, and I am very content with that. In fact, the first opportunity I get to work for myself or do something that generates a nice chunk of passive income, I am out of here!
But until then, I am doing exactly what helped me get through college: grind, keep my head low, and rock out with my cock out in another country every other month or so.
Life is good!
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[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;1660507]When a woman stays at home, most of the time it is a conscious choice to not have to work and be supported and live comfortably. She knows what the implications for her future working prospects are. Why in that case should a court decide to reward her for years of idleness. That is totally ridiculous and the rules are in fact stacked against men.
All these men are saying is that the rules are stacked against men. Why do you think women are so happy to get married? So that they have the power to blackmail you in the future, what does a man get out of it?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately it is NOT the view of men who made the rules. When a woman stays at home. It is not only by her choice it is a mutual agreement. Therefore the man also agreed that her part in the relationship would be the handling of the "Home" responsibilities.
Basically the man is agreeing that her half of the responsibility of the "Contract of Marriage" signed by both the woman and man is the home.
The monetary value awarded is based upon those years of service and level of lifestyle she put in at home. It was a mutual agreement. If the man felt she should contribute money instead of her time at home they should have discussed it and found her a job. But the two agreed and chose that route.
Would it be fair that after a 15 or 20 yr marriage, a woman who has stayed at home all those years have to immediately earn a living with no experience. She should start with nothing.
If that's the case then the guy should not get married in America. And if he does. He cannot blame it on the woman. As it is a system setup by men. And upheld mostly by men.
But I guess some need to vent their frustration.
I'm no AW advocate. I just don't believe any one country has better than women than another. All women are equally frustrating. Each does it in their own way.
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In the US, how bad you get fucked really does depend a lot on what state you are in. In my state, whoever has the higher income will be paying child support to the other, assuming 50/50 custody, and alimony (please to call it "maintenance") is fairly limited. But guys don't check on that stuff before they get married. For example, how many of you who own houses know if you live in a recourse state or not? A recourse state means that if you don't pay your mortgage, and the bank forecloses, and the house doesn't sell for as much as the mortgage, they can come after you for the difference. In non-recourse states, they have to take the foreclosure sale proceeds and go away. It kinda makes a difference, if you own a house. Do you even know if you live in a community property state? Similarly too many mongers don't educate themselves about the prostitution, immigration, etc. , laws where they monger. Yeah, a lot of the guys [B]on this board[/B] know enough to check up on that kind of stuff, but think of all the other jackoffs running around out there.
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[QUOTE]=These are no new facts, its been this way since marriage has began. So whose fault is it. [B]You asked her[/B] to marry you and probably bought an expense ring when you did it. And now you're bitter and blaming AW for your bad choices in life.== [/QUOTE]I have never understood the concept of engagement ring. A man spends thousands on a ring, gets on his knees and begs a woman to marry him. The relationship starts with her getting something of value she has yet to earn.
The ring is so she can show all her friends what a sucker you are. Usually the marraige is over before the ring is paid for since most men buy a ring that is more then he can afford.
I will agree with one thing you said, men are stupid when it comes to women. They know the rules are against them and still play.
The game. And they do it over and over until they have nothing left.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1660511]Well thankfully I've never been married or ever plan on being married. I also do not have any kids by any AW's.
As far as blaming AW's for my bad choices in life, I am sure you are speaking in general (not directly to me). So far I've done everything right: served my country (did not fall into the trap of marrying my high school sweetheart or the first chick I met right out of boot camp, as did my fellow military brethren); got money for college; worked full time AND went to school full time while keeping my head low, which did not do me any favors as far as my dating or sex life was concerned (actually, I found out about mongering my 2nd year in college, so it was not too hard to stay focused and grind all semester and then go on a week-long bang-a-thon to the DR at the end of the semester); found a great paying job after college; and the rest is history.
I liken my trek to the song "30 Something" by Jay Z in where he says:
[I]"30's the new 20 ni**a I'm so hot still
better broad, better auto mobile"[/I]
I was broke for most of my 20's while I was trying to finish school. I went to class by day, and was a security guard by night. You would think chicks would think it noble that a young guy with no kids or excess baggage was trying to better his lot in life by holding down a steady job while going to school to get his degree, but nope. If you weren't balling right then and there then they would not give you a second look. They were not interested in coming along for the long ride: they said "pick me up once you get there." Shit didn't start to turn around for me until my very late 20's and early 30's.
So am I somewhat bitter about AW over that? I was, until I found out about mongering.
The entire time I was in school I was like: "Man, just wait until I get my degree. Then I'll get the best chick and be living the American Dream (trophy wife, big-ass house, nice cars, kids)."
Mongering changed my perspective on all that shit. I realized I can have the best chick I want, when I want, for as long as I want, without the other bullshit that comes along with having a relationship. As long as my passport has not expired and has enough pages in it, I am good!
So for me, there is nothing to be bitter about when it comes to AW's. I only share my experiences with dealing with them. I've already written them off. When I look at my future there are no AW's present, and I am very content with that. In fact, the first opportunity I get to work for myself or do something that generates a nice chunk of passive income, I am out of here!
But until then, I am doing exactly what helped me get through college: grind, keep my head low, and rock out with my cock out in another country every other month or so.
Life is good![/QUOTE]SP well done. I also have no reason to be bitter. I never been married and never been fleeced. I just don't like American Women.
I served my country in my teens and 20's. Discovered mongering which changed my perspective. Got out and worked my way up the ladder of success.
Retired now and travel when I want and stay as long as I want. Headed to Pattaya next month.
I love the freedom.
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Yeah, my douche bag friend spent $10k in 1995 dollars on the ring he bought for the b!tch he knew for I believe it was four days before marrying her. I got to say, I never thought homie had the stones to burglarize her place to get it back. It was funny. She did not know me but knew he was coming up to my town to see me. I took him to a strip club, he took off with a stripper and never went back, and within a week she had a restraining order on his ass. But he had the last laugh. Then the fucker took up with this woman who was a doctor and then decided to get her law degree. I think she makes a bit of money, wouldn't you? And that fucker hasn't even tried to work in years. Said it would just put them in a higher tax bracket. Oh yeah, and I forgot; his first wife, whom he knew for six weeks, left him for another [B]woman[/B].
Anyway, 12 more days in this country for me this time around, and then adios for at least a couple of years. Y'all have fun now!
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Anyway, 12 more days in this country for me this time around, and then adios for at least a couple of years. Y'all have fun now![/QUOTE]Lucky SOB! Don't forget about the rest of us here on lock down in sex prison waiting for our parole date (next mongering trip), LOL.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1660525]SP well done. I also have no reason to be bitter. I never been married and never been fleeced. I just don't like American Women.
I served my country in my teens and 20's. Discovered mongering which changed my perspective. Got out and worked my way up the ladder of success.
Retired now and travel when I want and stay as long as I want. Headed to Pattaya next month.
I love the freedom.[/QUOTE]Thanks TellAll. We have to stay winning!
And congratulations to you on what sounds like a very successful retirement: You are living the dream! Feel free to impart on us young'ins what it took to achieve such success. I'm sure having little to no consumer debt (credit cards, auto loans) and contributing to a 401K was part of the mix, correct?
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1660523]I have never understood the concept of engagement ring. A man spends thousands on a ring, gets on his knees and begs a woman to marry him. The relationship starts with her getting something of value she has yet to earn.
The ring is so she can show all her friends what a sucker you are. Usually the marraige is over before the ring is paid for since most men buy a ring that is more then he can afford.
I will agree with one thing you said, men are stupid when it comes to women. They know the rules are against them and still play.
The game. And they do it over and over until they have nothing left.[/QUOTE]The concept is that it has made DeBeers a lot of damn money. Diamonds are intrinsically worthless. But with the right advertisement people will buy anything. So why wouldn't DeBeers put the word out that diamonds are a girl's best friend? I wonder how much of that $10 K Dickhead's friend was able to recoup.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1660545]The concept is that it has made DeBeers a lot of damn money. Diamonds are intrinsically worthless. But with the right advertisement people will buy anything. So why wouldn't DeBeers put the word out that diamonds are a girl's best friend? I wonder how much of that $10 K Dickhead's friend was able to recoup.[/QUOTE]So true it is all marketing. What else can you take used, put it in a different setting and then sell again as new? Guys wake up.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1660545]The concept is that it has made DeBeers a lot of damn money. Diamonds are intrinsically worthless. But with the right advertisement people will buy anything. So why wouldn't DeBeers put the word out that diamonds are a girl's best friend? I wonder how much of that $10 K Dickhead's friend was able to recoup.[/QUOTE]He got less because he had to take the diamonds out of the setting since they were now hot as hell. IIRC it was $6,500.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1660396]American men are stupid about women, gullible as hell, unwilling to learn from their mistakes, and live in a dream world.[/QUOTE]What do you expect when your raised in a culture that fosters the double standards that exist today. As I said, certain members of American society have been brutalized by Anglo power structure since the landing on Plymouth Rock. Since this forum is labeled American Women, I'll limit the example to them. They only got the right to vote less than 100 years ago, and were constrained to the kitchen, frequently beaten and dumped by men they loved, with no recourse. Fast forward to the new millennium. In support of women's rights, men rights have been sacrificed. The pendulum is not in the middle, but on the other side. Prime example of marriage injustice: Retired veterans must pay half their retirement to the ex for life. Despite finding the bitches screwing half the fleet while your on deployment. In my time in the Navy I worked 8 hour days and stood two 4 hour watches in one day. Been constantly exposed to elements, endured endless sleepless nights, and on and on. We are talking about guys in the desert of Afghanistan. I am not saying ALL military wives are like that, but I have seen some real sluts wearing the military wife tag.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1660448] And now you're bitter and blaming AW for your bad choices in life.[/QUOTE]"Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!"
Like I said- The judge was more than ready to award alimony to a "Gainfully Employed Women" that I was divorcing. I'm just one guy. How many others are getting this shit. Just because it did not happen to you does not mean it does not exist MOE-RON! I'm in favor of equitable laws and for all parties. We all know the justice system is not fair. You get the justice you pay for. Solution: Avoid the problem-don't get married- just bang LBFM.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1661010] The judge was more than ready to award alimony to a "Gainfully Employed Women" that I was divorcing. I'm just one guy. How many others are getting this shit. Just because it did not happen to you does not mean it does not exist MOE-RON! I'm in favor of equitable laws and for all parties. We all know the justice system is not fair. You get the justice you pay for. Solution: Avoid the problem-don't get married- just bang LBFM.[/QUOTE]"The choices one makes. Dictates the life we lead" seems you chose poorly. Choose your women wisely that you marry.
I can't speak to your situation as we are only hearing one side. Which is clearly bias.
No one states every man gets a fair outcome. Of course. Some will get screwed. But that is not the woman's fault. Its the system and both signed up for it.
In fact. The man. Went out bought an expensive ring and asked her to marry him. And then you blame the woman. Get serious.
Whether or not he gets screwed in the end. He knew ahead of time what can happen. And he. The man asked the aw to get married.
Man up and take some responsibility for your decisions. Right its her fault. She pussy whipped you and made you do it.
Tg865
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1660448]Actually. I've been married twice. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1661223]"The choices one makes. Dictates the life we lead" seems you chose poorly. Choose your women wisely that you marry. [/QUOTE]Take your own advice before you start dishing it.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1661223]"The choices one makes. Dictates the life we lead" seems you chose poorly. Choose your women wisely that you marry.
I can't speak to your situation as we are only hearing one side. Which is clearly bias.
No one states every man gets a fair outcome. Of course. Some will get screwed. But that is not the woman's fault. Its the system and both signed up for it.
In fact. The man. Went out bought an expensive ring and asked her to marry him. And then you blame the woman. Get serious.
Whether or not he gets screwed in the end. He knew ahead of time what can happen. And he. The man asked the aw to get married.
Man up and take some responsibility for your decisions. Right its her fault. She pussy whipped you and made you do it.
Tg865[/QUOTE]ThatGuy is absolutely right. This is why I am a domestic MGTOW (Man going his own way) and an international monger. I will never blame a woman for stealing half of my stuff or making me pay alimony or child support. Because I refuse to have sex with these women and I will never have children or get married. I refuse to one night stand women or have a girlfriend or live with a woman. I want nothing to do with these women; I only have sex when there is money involved. I understand that these are rather extremists measures but being a millennial with 2015 rapidly approaching I cannot take any chances. I am sure ThatGuy will support everything I am saying unless he wants to be labeled a hypocrite. For myself I really believe these women have no choice but to take advantage of the biased laws and current societal standards. I honestly do not believe woman have the cognitive reasoning ability or the compassion to overcome their biological precursors that beckon her to filet a man emotionally, psychologically, and financially. I do not adhere to the modern notion that men and women are the same. In my opinion getting angry at woman for betraying a man is like getting angry at a toddler for spilling his milk, it is pointless and irrational. So then what is a man oppressed by the current feminist, socialist, politically correct regime supposed to do? Fucking leave, quit this captain save a chick persona. If they want to play that game then, no more husbands, dates, free dinners, boyfriends, shoulders to cry on. Leave these responsibilities to white knights and ThatGuy865. Focus on the reason this forum exists, paying for pussy. And I am sure 90% of the West and many guys here would disagree with this idea, but please someone tell me what is so great about dating these women in the West. What benefit is there, why does the mysticism of fucking non-pro Western girls persist. How many formerly married guys wished they had bought pros from the start? How many of you reading this right now think their lives would have been better if they would have just paid upfront out of hand instead of later out of ass. If enough guys say fuck this I am going to DR, PHIL, COL, BRZ, THAI, sooner or later these women will come crawling back begging. But it will be too late. Or maybe there are enough white knights and ThoseGuys8065's to go around for Western women, either way I know I am over the hill happy with the path I have chosen for my life. But with all the articles about depression among women, I cannot say the same for the ladies of the western world. In the end women need good men and men just need a good GFE.
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[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1661357]If enough guys say fuck this I am going to DR, PHIL, COL, BRZ, THAI, sooner or later these women will come crawling back begging. But it will be too late.[/QUOTE]Ha. You keep dreaming. If that happens then the guys will just turn those women into the ones they claim to be trying to get away from. I have seen it too many times. You guys make everything about money then get pissed when reality becomes just that. Go on any of these threads and you will see, "Well she wasn't a hooker, but I gave her a "gift" of x amount before she left."
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QUOTE from SeizeTheDay: How many formerly married guys wished they had bought pros from the start? A: All of them that I know. The male amongst most species in the animal kingdom is a serial [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] who takes what he wants, when he wants it and how he wants it. Homo sapiens in America the vast majority of males have allowed themselves to be psychologically castrated. Just my. 02. I don't pretend to be an expert on this. Never married and considered a genius by my married to AW buddies.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1661362]Ha. You keep dreaming. If that happens then the guys will just turn those women into the ones they claim to be trying to get away from. I have seen it too many times. You guys make everything about money then get pissed when reality becomes just that. Go on any of these threads and you will see, "Well she wasn't a hooker, but I gave her a "gift" of x amount before she left."[/QUOTE]Agreed.
There are to many guys overseas trying to do things by western standards and getting royaly fucked for it. It is like they never learn and continue to be the same limp dick he was in the US getting financially raped by women.
I say leave them in the west. Too many guys like that could fuck it up for the rest of us.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1661362]Ha. You keep dreaming. If that happens then the guys will just turn those women into the ones they claim to be trying to get away from. I have seen it too many times. You guys make everything about money then get pissed when reality becomes just that. Go on any of these threads and you will see, "Well she wasn't a hooker, but I gave her a "gift" of x amount before she left."[/QUOTE]We agree. When I stated those countries, I was referring to going there for mongering purposes only. To each his own I say but I would never advocate the pursuit of non-pros. I am just not a fan of that route. I do not see the desire to go outside the West for non-pros either, as you and TellAll mentioned these guys fuck it up anyway. A financial mark is a mark regardless of the country he is in. I think the non-pro route is futile because women everywhere are the same even though women everywhere are nothing alike. By this I mean that in general heterosexual males and females share the same biological instincts relative to their gender. Men all over the planet in general have the instinct to dominate, protect their family and fuck. Women all over the planet in general have the instinct to have children, nurture their children, procreate with men that possess the best genetics, and extract resources from men. Where women differ is the extent to which a woman can manifest her biological impulses is directly proportional to the society in which she resides, whether it is matriarchal or patriarchal. Western society is matriarchal which gives women freedom to do as they please. Someone in this thread recently called America conservative I agree only in pertinence to men. No one complains about women gathering to get railroaded night after night at nightclubs. Single mothers are looked upon as the strong pillars of society. It is only men that are constrained in the sexuality. For example I dragged my sister to see Gone Girl (A film I highly recommend to all heterosexual nonwhite knight men.) and during the promos for future films up pops the "filthy shades of grey filth" promo. Some introverted chick that wants to be gagged, tied like a hog, blindfolded, strangled, and fucked right there for Grammy and Grandpa to see. How the fuck is that conservative? But all in all I agree with you. Some guys are trying to turn non-pros into pros without even knowing it. Either be her S&M buckaroo and lasso the chick or just keep it simple and pay for the pussy.
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She woke up. Too late for her, but she finally woke the f*ck up.
[URL]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/yourtango/7-huge-mistakes-i-made-as_b_6355374.html[/URL]
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Oh Man!
[QUOTE=TellAll;1660275]Don't forget the most important fact. When you get rid of an AW, any secret you told her that can hurt you becomes public knowledge. She will even make shit up if it can cause you problems. She will do this even if she gets what she wants in a split.
Sometimes it even cost them and they don't seem to care.[/QUOTE]This is so, so true! This is how AW are! I asked a good female friend about it who explained to me why. You see, women are emotional beings, and what they want to do is get at you emotionally. They don't just want your money. They see things differently. The way a woman does. Which means that want to harm your emotions as well as take your money. Only then are they satisfied. Money + emotional distress = female vengeance!
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Naive!
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1660517]Unfortunately it is NOT the view of men who made the rules. When a woman stays at home. It is not only by her choice it is a mutual agreement. Therefore the man also agreed that her part in the relationship would be the handling of the "Home" responsibilities. Basically the man is agreeing that her half of the responsibility of the "Contract of Marriage" signed by both the woman and man is the home. I'm no AW advocate. I just don't believe any one country has better than women than another.[/QUOTE]This strikes me as incredibly naive! Do you know how many guys I know who complain and skulk about their lazy, fat ass wives not only refusing to work but not doing jack shit around the house either? A prime reason for divorce is money (typically not having enough of it). Too many AW want to sit back on their lazy hind parts and expect the man to do every fucking thing! And it's not all by "agreement" as you suggest.
And by the way, what "signed contract of marriage" are you referring to that says the man and the woman agree that she stays at home? I didn't know there were such standard written contractual obligations in all marriages that demonstrated a meeting of the minds between husband and wife about who stays home and who gets their ass up every morning and goes to a job. You just lost a lot of credibility making an assertion as silly as that one dude.
You say you're not an AW advocate, but I've read several of your posts and you sure come across like one, just like in this post you made, which is pretty devoid of reality and the way many people are actually leading their married lives, along with the conflicts they face that threaten their marital unions. These situations (women not wanting to work or do anything at all) contribute to the failure of marriages. She doesn't want to work, but she really needs to in order to support the family. This is more common than you apparently realize. How unbelievably naive and biased your view as stated here! Wow.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1662537]She woke up. Too late for her, but she finally woke the f*ck up.
[URL]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/yourtango/7-huge-mistakes-i-made-as_b_6355374.html[/URL][/QUOTE]She did all that BS but as she said she's not looking for forgiveness. I dare say there were probably more issues she doesn't mention. I applaud him for getting the fuck out and finding a little happiness.
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It's Amazing!
I've dated a number of women over the years who had been in failed marriages and bad relationships before they met me. We'd get to talking about our pasts, and I can honestly say that not a one of them ever took any responsibility for their failed relationships with men! Not one! It was always the guy's fault. I would ask in a non-threatening way if they thought that maybe they might have done anything at all to contribute to the problem. The answer was always, "No, I didn't do anything wrong at all". And what was so hilarious about it is that I would date these women for just two weeks and see all kinds of things that they did wrong to chase men away, including me! Two weeks! LMAO!
Oh I would actually stick around for longer than the two weeks (usually), but eventually for whatever reason my dates with these women would come to an end. Sometimes, but not always, maybe there was some kind of falling out about something or another. I guess that got me added to the shit list too LOL! You know, they would get mad and talk about how they had been married before and been in relationships and blah, blah, blah. Well the operative word was "been" because as I would remind them, they were in marriages and relationships that failed! Then how about throwing a little fuel on the fire by telling them that I would take my advice on how to have a successful marriage or a lasting serious relationship from somebody who had actually had one of those. Hahaha! Oh man, they would become livid then! But, I was just speaking the truth. The hurtful truth. And they knew it. I'll take the sex lady, but I say bunk to marriage! Thank you very much!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1662890] I can honestly say that not a one of them ever took any responsibility for their failed relationships...[/QUOTE]I think some could say the same for some of the men on this thread!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1662890] I would ask in a non-threatening way if they thought that maybe they might have done anything at all to contribute to the problem. The answer was always, "No, I didn't do anything wrong at all".[/QUOTE]Hmmm, curious.
I've had the exact same conversation with my male divorced / divorcing / wish they could divorce but for the kids friends and they all say exactly the same thing as your female interviewees.
The can't all be right (or wrong), can they?
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1663214]The can't all be right (or wrong), can they?[/QUOTE]I personally accept 50% of the fault for the failure of my marriage. Your half the problem. In many cases, a married couple are two idiots that deserve each other. Marriage is one of the worst institutions in modern society, that takes way too much work and money. I also personally think that having kids is waaay overrated. The vast majority in the US can't afford them, they will be educated by a failed education system, and parents are being forced by societal rules on how to raise them. The smart money goes toward a very early vasectomy, combined with lifelong trips to DR, Brazil, Colombia, etc.
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Also most women are undercover hookers anyway[/QUOTE]I took this from the Sosua forum. It somewhat backs up your belief in this. The conversation was between a Senior Member who banged a chick in Cuba who was not a prostitute, and another Senior Member who thinks she should have been compensated for the time she spent with Senior Member A:
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1663509]Aside from you paying for dinner and liquor for everybody, did you give Anna any money or compensation for all of that time she spent with you? I mean before you left Cuba to go home? If not, I can see how she might feel she has to make up for not getting compensated for her time.
Had you worked out any arrangement or discussed anything about compensating her? Probably not! Throughout your time with Anna, even if she never point blank asked you for money, did she ever discuss with you areas where she needs things or money? Not asking directly, but telling you some of her life problems and needs? Moreover, You haven't been with this women for months or years. How likely would it be that eventually you were going to learn as much as she wanted you to know about her shortcomings in life, and where one could help if they wanted to?
What is interesting to me, is that even though she didn't ask for anything while you were together, she didn't waste any time getting around to being direct after you left. A question arises from that; is her not asking for anything when you were together as impressive to you now, since she finally came out and asked directly? For me, I would regard my 1st impression as just me not knowing the girl was playing the waiting game. Not that she really didn't want anything from me. She did want something from me all along. She was just fulfilling my fantasy and not destroying the vibe. Maybe she was hoping for compensation before you left without having to ask. Many young women expect that from dudes older than them.[/QUOTE]See? No reason to have a girlfriend or to get married ANYWHERE in the world. If non-hookers expect you to compensate them for the time you spend with them, why not just use that same money with an Escort or Pro? At least Senior Member A (Mr. Gogo) got some ass at the end of the night from the chica in Cuba. AW's expect you to pick up the tab on multiple dates, and even then there's no guarantee she'll put out. Money and time wasted on AW's and Non Pros (in other countries). They are all undercover hookers anyway, hahaha.
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Hocus Pocus Focus
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1663533]See? No reason to have a girlfriend or to get married ANYWHERE in the world. If non-hookers expect you to compensate them for the time you spend with them, why not just use that same money with an Escort or Pro? At least Senior Member A (Mr. Gogo) got some ass at the end of the night from the chica in Cuba. AW's expect you to pick up the tab on multiple dates, and even then there's no guarantee she'll put out. Money and time wasted on AW's and Non Pros (in other countries). They are all undercover hookers anyway, hahaha.[/QUOTE]One time I had a date overseas with a woman I had met through an online dating site (not a P4 P thing). We got together for dinner and had a generally pleasant good time. I thought the first date (turned out to be the last) went OK. I paid for dinner, and once we got outside she turns to me and asks for money! I asked her why I should give her some cash money, and she says "because it's a holiday" and "for my time". Now that pissed me off! I paid for her dinner, and what the hell about my time? Was that not worth anything!
Just to test her out, I asked her how much money she wanted. She said "whatever you want to give me. " I told her "no" and that I was not going to give her anything! I then excused myself to go do a little bit of grocery shopping (and obviously never intending to call her again). After I left the grocery store, I saw her sitting on a nearby bench frantically texting on her cell phone. She was so engrossed in what she was doing that she didn't see me pass by. A few days later she sent me a message on the dating site saying that she enjoyed meeting me and apologized for asking for money. I blocked her ass to make sure I would never hear from her again! And I didn't. Some people!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1663546]One time I had a date overseas with a woman I had met through an online dating site (not a P4 P thing). [/QUOTE]She didn't even offer any extra activity? What country Cane?
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1663630]She didn't even offer any extra activity? What country Cane?[/QUOTE]Hell no she didn't offer any "extra activity". But, I wasn't looking for that either on a first date as I am not one of those who, either consciously or subconsciously, starts treating "normal" girls as P4 P girls. I remain very aware of who and what I'm dealing with at all times (although I agree with the assertion that at some basic level all women are tutes). For some personal reasons, I prefer not to say exactly which country. I'll just say a country in eastern Europe. But just what kind of simp did she think I was anyway LOL? I showed her what kind. Gets to stepping right out of my life chick! LOL!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1663666]Hell no she didn't offer any "extra activity". But, I wasn't looking for that either on a first date as I am not one of those who, either consciously or subconsciously, starts treating "normal" girls as P4 P girls. I remain very aware of who and what I'm dealing with at all times (although I agree with the assertion that at some basic level all women are tutes). For some personal reasons, I prefer not to say exactly which country. I'll just say a country in eastern Europe. But just what kind of simp did she think I was anyway LOL? I showed her what kind. Gets to stepping right out of my life chick! LOL![/QUOTE]Hmmm unidentified country probably Ubek. Too many broads everywhere must think that men are just their ATMs. It's ok though. Us guys know better. Too many fat and ugly ones with too many issues and baggage, too. Wait until Hillary Clinton gets elected. She will take the ruin that Obama has done to the next level.
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Recent Opinion Articles
I read two articles this weekend that I think are VERY interesting regarding relationships with American / Western women.
One is about finding a feminist boyfriend / husband. It is so ridiculous that I now suspect it was satire. The author instructs women on how to identify men who support feminist goals and ideology and instructs men on how to better project feminist sympathies so as to attract more women. It came across to me as encouraging men to take on the traditional feminine role in relationships with women.
The other is about developing an alternative to traditional marriage. Academics are noting the decline in marriage rates and rise in divorce rates, especially among the poor and non-college educated. They further note that the main losers in this are the children who are born in such failed unions and are now being raised in single parent households and in poverty. One academic in particular, a woman named Belle Sawhill, is suggesting an arrangement in which a couple contract to live together for a certain number of years, agree to have a certain number of children, and then separate at the end of that time period and / or when the children are adults.
Some readers left interesting comments.
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[QUOTE=George90;1664908]The other is about developing an alternative to traditional marriage. Academics are noting the decline in marriage rates and rise in divorce rates, especially among the poor and non-college educated. They further note that the main losers in this are the children who are born in such failed unions and are now being raised in single parent households and in poverty. One academic in particular, a woman named Belle Sawhill, is suggesting an arrangement in which a couple contract to live together for a certain number of years, agree to have a certain number of children, and then separate at the end of that time period and / or when the children are adults.[/QUOTE]I remember having a discussion with a college roomie many years ago who advocated this very same approach. Hey, if we went to this written contract approach to marriage, then we could write in ThatGuy's language about who stays home and who goes to work LOL! Get it all in writing and deal with any failures to act according to the deal as a "breach of contract". On second thought, we're already far too litigious a society here in the States!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1664917] Get it all in writing and deal with any failures to act according to the deal as a "breach of contract". [/QUOTE]Yeah, get it in writing. Too much trust will only lead to horrible bitterness.
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10 Tell-Tale Signs She's A Secret Internet Fatty
Good article for those of you still playing the North American internet dating scene. Sure wish I had this guide back in the early days of internet dating. I've been tricked by my fair share of fatties, LOL.
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Like it or not, online dating is gradually taking over. As the American woman becomes more socially retarded by the minute, liable to blow her r@pe whistle if a man who isn't already among her 10,000 Facebook "friends" should so much as say Hello, to herit behooves men to adapt to the shifting dating landscape. An online-dating profile has been a part of my repertoire for some time, and it's supplied me with a healthy dose of fornications, stories to tell, and above all, wisdom.
I needn't tell you that online dating is jam packed with a host of nuisances and perils. There's the over-confident 6 whose ego has been artificially inflated by the fawning online attention of thirsty guys to the degree that she delusionally carries on like a 9 whenever she cracks open her MacBook. There's the girl with the manifesto-like profile, itemizing unreasonable demands like a hostage-taker in a movie bank robbery. Then there are the brutally repetitive jokes, clichs, and "witty" remarks that women merely copycat from one anotherand television. She's preparing for the zombie apocalypse. You should message her if you know the difference between to / too / two and there / they're / their. She took a skydiving picture. She did a novelty race where they spray you with colored powder at the end.
All of those pale in comparison to the mother of all of online-dating dangers: the Notorious S. I. F. the Secret Internet Fatty. Talk to any man who has shown up to an online date with a cute girl, only to meet 30 pounds more of that girl than he expected, and you'll know that it's among the worst sinking feelings you can have on a first date. You've been tricked and on purpose.
Girls today are masters at photographing themselves in the most flattering way possible. And, all you need to do is shadow a few of them for one night to understand how they acquired that skill: girls today spend a better part of their day taking pictures of themselves, and each other. Not only do they have thousands of pictures from which to cherry-pick the best ones, they have countless hours of practice in posing, emphasizing, and concealing. Moreover, girls receive constant input from other girls as well as their desperate online male admirers about when they look their best. A college-aged girl has an advanced knowledge of her physique and photography far beyond the average guy, even 10 years her elder. The undiscerning male online-dater is simply no match for this training.
So, what can the average man do to avoid being Secret Internet Fattied in today's online-dating world? Learn to look for the tell-tale signs of the SIF:
1. [B]Has no body shots, only tightly cropped face shots, or very few pictures in the profile.[/B]
No matter how much feminists and fatties kick and scream otherwise, girls are hardwired to know that their body is their number-one asset in attracting a mate. If a girl conceals this information from you, you can rest assured there's a (good) reason. It will never be an accident. An all-headshots profile will mean a dumpy, fat body.
2. [B]Apparent wild swings in body weight in her photographs.[/B]
You can be certain that if she has pictures of her as both thin and as fat, she's currently in the fat stage.
3. [B]Pictured with food or talks about loving food.[/B]
Fat girls take a lot of pictures of themselves with food because, quite simply, they spend a lot of their time eating, and eating out is the only social activity they know. A girl who talks about how much she loves food or how much of a "foodie" she is lives to eat rather than eats to live. That almost always means fat.
4. [B]Has fat friends.[/B]
There's good science that shows that female friend-groups gain weight together. If she associates with fatties, according to her pictures, there's a good chance she's fat herself by now.
5. [B]Uses Myspace angles, or similar forms of photographic subterfuge.[/B]
Myspace Angles, that is, taking picture from above to reduce her visible size, may be an old trick, but it sticks around because it works.
6. [B]You cant see her collar bone.[/B]
One thing Myspace Angles and similar tricks can't hide is the absence of a collar bone. If you can't see it, she's overweight.
7. [B]Has sausage fingers.[/B]
Even if she succeeds in hiding everything else, her hands are a reliable tell-tale physical sign.
8. [B]Overemphasis of one feature, to the exclusion of others.[/B]
Since girls are keenly aware of their bodies, they know what looks good and what doesn't. If they're only showing you one thing repeatedly, it's because there's something wrong with the rest.
9. [B]Describes herself as average or curvy.[/B]
"Average" and "curvy" have become, almost exclusively, euphemisms for fatness. Even "athletic" isn't a reliable predictor of a fit physique, since a lot of fat girls will do zumba one day a week, only to drink Starbucks milkshakes on the other six.
10. [B]No new-looking pictures.[/B]
One of the most effective tricks is to simply use pictures from when you were skinny. While there's no reliable way to inoculate yourself against this move, you should look out for signs that her pictures aren't new. How's the image quality? What's happening in the background? What do the captions say?
[URL]http://www.returnofkings.com/19383/10-tell-tale-signs-shes-a-secret-internet-fatty[/URL]
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1666516]7. [B]Has sausage fingers.[/B][/QUOTE]I look at the arms also. Dead give away.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1666516]Even if she succeeds in hiding everything else, her hands are a reliable tell-tale physical sign.[/QUOTE]Sexy hands are my turn on.
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Now this lady gets it!
She does seem to want to grow a cock and emasculate her man. Notice how AW criticized her for having a successful marriage. And she's hot. Good for them.
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/candace-cameron-bure-i-want-my-husband-to-lead-107638431337.html[/URL]
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1667667]She does seem to want to grow a cock and emasculate her man. Notice how AW criticized her for having a successful marriage. And she's hot. Good for them.
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/candace-cameron-bure-i-want-my-husband-to-lead-107638431337.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Nice. She's one in a million. I was reading in the Santo Domingo thread (DR) about some guy bringing a dominicana back to USA and, as others know, not a good idea. The term he used was "bitchinized". I think this applies to any foreign woman who spends any length of time here in USA, especially East coast or California (besides maybe a short visit). Keep them in their home country where they are not tainted by the fat ass, mouthy see*s that characterize AWs (and from what I've heard many Europeans, Canadians and Australian feminists). Thank God for foreign women!
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[QUOTE=DCups;1667696]Nice. She's one in a million. I was reading in the Santo Domingo thread (DR) about some guy bringing a dominicana back to USA and, as others know, not a good idea. The term he used was "bitchinized". I think this applies to any foreign woman who spends any length of time here in USA, especially East coast or California (besides maybe a short visit). Keep them in their home country where they are not tainted by the fat ass, mouthy see*s that characterize AWs (and from what I've heard many Europeans, Canadians and Australian feminists). Thank God for foreign women![/QUOTE]That alone show what most know. The women are not different. Its their environment. If the woman were naturally different and that's how she wanted to be. You could take her anywhere and she should remain the same.
But what this show and as you even stated. If they are in an environment where they can have the choice and ability. They don't want to be the docile women they must be in their countries.
TG865
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[QUOTE=DCups;1667696] Santo Domingo thread (DR) about some guy bringing a dominicana back to USA and, as others know, not a good idea. The term he used was "bitchinized". I think this applies to any foreign woman who spends any length of time here in USA, Thank God for foreign women![/QUOTE]He should have known better. I witnessed Dominicans being biatches in their own country. That can be a tough place. Pinays, in my opinion, have the best temperament and are reasonably safe to bring back to the 1st world. I have seen many, many successful unions of AM / Pinay, and relatively few examples of them turning against the man.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1668179]He should have known better. I witnessed Dominicans being biatches in their own country. That can be a tough place. Pinays, in my opinion, have the best temperament and are reasonably safe to bring back to the 1st world. I have seen many, many successful unions of AM / Pinay, and relatively few examples of them turning against the man.[/QUOTE]You obviously don't live in or been to Southern California. San Diego and L. A. Are full of "Green card" pinays who left their "Old" husbands for green pastures. Especially military.
That's how I found out about Angeles city. We used to got to Chula Vista and National city (one of the biggest cities w / filipinos) where the filipina's hang out to score. The after party was T. J. It's there a Navy guy schooled us about AC and Subic (showing pics of his escapades). The rest is history.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1668179]He should have known better. I witnessed Dominicans being biatches in their own country. That can be a tough place. Pinays, in my opinion, have the best temperament and are reasonably safe to bring back to the 1st world. I have seen many, many successful unions of AM / Pinay, and relatively few examples of them turning against the man.[/QUOTE]I agree. One of my best friends is married to a pinay and through them I know many pinay married here. Most live in happy marriages.
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[QUOTE=AskeAske;1668191]I agree. One of my best friends is married to a pinay and through them I know many pinay married here. Most live in happy marriages.[/QUOTE]No, no, no, this threads purpose is to bemoan and vilify. Your perfidious vile will earn you no points here despite being a fresh breath of reason.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1668184]You obviously don't live in or been to Southern California. San Diego and L. A. Are full of "Green card" pinays who left their "Old" husbands for green pastures. Especially military.
That's how I found out about Angeles city. We used to got to Chula Vista and National city (one of the biggest cities w / filipinos) where the filipina's hang out to score. The after party was T. J. It's there a Navy guy schooled us about AC and Subic (showing pics of his escapades). The rest is history.[/QUOTE]You ain't out there fucking all my Trophy Lounge Pinays are you? 25 years ago it was open season on $1 drink night. I got my first traffic ticket in front of that place.
I will say though that things are different for 2nd generation who was born here. But for the ones who came and still come from PI the old adage is still in full effect.
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1668200]No, no, no, this threads purpose is to bemoan and vilify. Your perfidious vile will earn you no points here despite being a fresh breath of reason.[/QUOTE]Noticed he said is best friend is married to a Pinay and NOT an American Woman.
Get a clue bro.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1668260]Noticed he said is best friend is married to a Pinay and NOT an American Woman.
Get a clue bro.[/QUOTE]A clue? ROFL! Now she's as American as you are "bro".
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1668260]Noticed he said is best friend is married to a Pinay and NOT an American Woman.
Get a clue bro.[/QUOTE]Well let's call them PAWs for Pinay American Women. My best friend married one, put her through nursing school (here) and then watched his retirement savings go down the drain with her excessive spending and gambling and sending 40% of her income to moocher relatives in the PI. In another case my backyard neighbor's nephew married a Filipina and she is taking him for everything he has. One of my cousins same thing. Sure, there are exceptions but good luck with that. The odds are against you.
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[QUOTE=DCups;1668281]...The odds are against you...[/QUOTE]Which is actually true. As a Pinoy guy, I am tired of Pinays (and AW regardless of ethnicity), wherever they are in the world. In most instances the Pinay would prioritize her family over you because she got you hooked via marriage or the kid. It is ironic because you are already supposed to be "part of the family".
My observation during my short stint in the military is a lot of the Pinays the guys marry come from lower socioeconomic backgrounds. When the girl get their green card all bets are off. It is not surprising they will transform into profligate spenders and sending excessive amounts of money back home.
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[QUOTE=DCups;1668281]Well let's call them PAWs for Pinay American Women. My best friend married one, put her through nursing school (here) and then watched his retirement savings go down the drain with her excessive spending and gambling and sending 40% of her income to moocher relatives in the PI. In another case my backyard neighbor's nephew married a Filipina and she is taking him for everything he has. One of my cousins same thing. Sure, there are exceptions but good luck with that. The odds are against you.[/QUOTE]Any woman you bring here is likely to screw you over in the end. Mainly because to her you are only a ticket here and the influence of her Americanized friends. Once she learns the ropes, watch out.
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[QUOTE=DCups;1668281]Well let's call them PAWs for Pinay American Women. My best friend married one, put her through nursing school (here) and then watched his retirement savings go down the drain with her excessive spending and gambling and sending 40% of her income to moocher relatives in the PI. In another case my backyard neighbor's nephew married a Filipina and she is taking him for everything he has. One of my cousins same thing. Sure, there are exceptions but good luck with that. The odds are against you.[/QUOTE]I get it. Apparently Rjsss212 doesn't. He just about nutted in his pants when he saw AskeAske's post, then you guys (you, NTambay, and TellAll) had to go go and crush his world again, LOL.
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Since we are on the subject, has anyone watched 90 Day Fiance? A bunch of dorks bringing chicks from overseas (Brazil, Colombia, Philippines, Russia, South Africa) to their podunk towns with the hopes of marrying them within 90 days before the visa expires. I have not seen one guy on this show who has a pair of nuts. And any kind of affection the guy has to initiate it first. Dumb asses. 23 year old Brazilian chick telling a 38 year old man that he is not allowed to have a bachelor party and has to throw out all his Playboy books. Biotch I will throw you out before I throw these books out.
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90-Day Fiance on TLC
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1668328]Since we are on the subject, has anyone watched 90 Day Fiance? A bunch of dorks bringing chicks from overseas to their podunk towns with the hopes of marrying them within 90 days before the visa expires. I have not seen one guy on this show who has a pair of nuts. And any kind of affection the guy has to initiate it first. Dumb asses.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah man, I watched the first season of that show and watched one episode of the current season. Got so pissed off I had to stop watching the shit before my blood pressure shot up as high as a Georgia pine! I can't believe the one guy from North Africa who came all the way over to the USA to marry some fat, ugly, broke AW! Must want that green card some kind of bad! I saw where he was on the cell phone and it cut off because she hadn't paid the bill LOLOLOL! The guys on that show are pathetic!
[URL]http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/90-day-fiance[/URL]
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1668328]Since we are on the subject, has anyone watched 90 Day Fiance? A bunch of dorks bringing chicks from overseas (Brazil, Colombia, Philippines, Russia, South Africa) to their podunk towns with the hopes of marrying them within 90 days before the visa expires. I have not seen one guy on this show who has a pair of nuts. And any kind of affection the guy has to initiate it first. Dumb asses. 23 year old Brazilian chick telling a 38 year old man that he is not allowed to have a bachelor party and has to throw out all his Playboy books. Biotch I will throw you out before I throw these books out.[/QUOTE]Of course they are going to only show emasculated men being dominated by the woman. It's better for ratings. Just look at that Love and Hip Hop bullshit show with those ghetto azz ho3z poppin off at the mouth.
How does that 90 day Visa stuff work? Do you have to marry them in the end? Because if I could find a bad-ass Ukrainian chick, fuck the shit out of her for 90 days, then send her back home and grab another one, I don't see how that could be a bad thing at all, LOL!
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1668184]You obviously don't live in or been to Southern California. San Diego and L. A. Are full of "Green card" pinays who left their "Old" husbands for green pastures. Especially military. That's how I found out about Angeles city. We used to got to Chula Vista and National city (one of the biggest cities w / filipinos) where the filipina's hang out to score. The after party was T. J. It's there a Navy guy schooled us about AC and Subic (showing pics of his escapades). The rest is history.[/QUOTE]You don't need to explain Cali to me Mr. I will protect the fair sex on ISG AW thread to my death. As a Navy vet, I HAVE lived in San Diego for over 15 years, Oakland 8 years, and Long Beach another 4. I have been in one of those homes of a fellow sailor that married a complete Pinay (cu*nt). If you bother to PLEASE READ and FULLY COMPREHEND MY POSTS AT LEAST ONCE, you would have noticed that I said I have seen a FEW examples of scandalous Pinays. Why am I the only member you attack BTW? You (pu$$y) away from everyone else.
You have only been to AC, so of course your only around the hoes. In your WASP world you think only AW are capable of being virtuous women. That guys wife would not even acknowledge my presence when I went to their home to buy his computer. He was just an poor sap that was from a small town and not street savvy enough to see what I saw in two minutes. About six months later he walked around work always angry after having been taken to the cleaners. Those are the guys that get taken in the Navy.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1668343]Of course they are going to only show emasculated men being dominated by the woman. It's better for ratings. Just look at that Love and Hip Hop bullshit show with those ghetto azz ho3z poppin off at the mouth.[/QUOTE]Did you see the show with Ocho-Cinco and his GF that he eventually head-butted? They were at each others throats, and I don't even watch this reality BS! I only watched a few seconds of a promo. He is STUPID! Athletes are not know for their high IQ for sure. How can they not see the most artificial money hungry women this country can produce just waiting to use them up. This absolute worst thing in the world is a beautiful woman that knows it.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1668343].How does that 90 day Visa stuff work? Do you have to marry them in the end? Because if I could find a bad-ass Ukrainian chick, fuck the shit out of her for 90 days, then send her back home and grab another one, I don't see how that could be a bad thing at all, LOL! [/QUOTE]OK, here you go. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wW7c58nMI4[/URL] Well, the pickings are a bit worked over. Only the 65 yo guy had a really hot one.
With the fiance visa you have to marry within 90 days. Download a movie called "Mail Order Bride". Its great and seems totally real. The actor in it has since gone on to several tv comercials and show, so this is not a spoiler alert. In this video link they seem to have cought on that these guys are there only to fuck them and leave.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1668325]Any woman you bring here is likely to screw you over in the end. Mainly because to her you are only a ticket here and the influence of her Americanized friends. Once she learns the ropes, watch out.[/QUOTE]As I stated. Yours and statements of others show. Women are the same the world over, given the opportunity and resources.
Once women from any country, are brought to the USA and they learn of their rights and opportunities. Most become the same as AW.
The reason they act differently in their home countries is because. They do not have the ability to prosper (gainful employment), nor social safety nets (women shelters, programs to aid them). That even a broke / homeless women in the USA Would receive. In their countries they are dependent on men to assist with these needs.
So of course. The foreigner who is already perceived as wealthy and well behaved. Will be treated like a king. Because to them he can provide like a king. Its not cultural or they are naturally great wives. Its need. Pure and simple. Since they need a man. Better it be a foreigner who can provide more than a local.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1668637]As I stated. Yours and statements of others show. Women are the same the world over, given the opportunity and resources.
Once women from any country, are brought to the USA and they learn of their rights and opportunities. Most become the same as AW.
The reason they act differently in their home countries is because. They do not have the ability to prosper (gainful employment), nor social safety nets (women shelters, programs to aid them). That even a broke / homeless women in the USA Would receive. In their countries they are dependent on men to assist with these needs.
So of course. The foreigner who is already perceived as wealthy and well behaved. Will be treated like a king. Because to them he can provide like a king. Its not cultural or they are naturally great wives. Its need. Pure and simple. Since they need a man. Better it be a foreigner who can provide more than a local.[/QUOTE]Whatever the reason the fact is a man will get treated a whole lot better in other areas of the world than here.
Nothing wrong with a little tit for tat as long as both parties get what they want. The problem in america it's one sided. A man gives a lot of tat and instead of tit he gets shit from his female counterpart. I think I'll pass.
By the way ThatGuy, you have way to many x chromosomes. LOL.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1668637]
Once women from any country, are brought to the USA and they learn of their rights and opportunities. Most become the same as AW.
[/QUOTE]BULLSHIT! They learn of tax-payer funded government programs like WIC, Food Stamps, and how they can rip a man's testicles out through his wallet (R.I.P. Robin Williams) through divorce and child support!
Rights and opportunities my ass!
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Not a game
[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1668407]With the fiance visa you have to marry within 90 days. Download a movie called "Mail Order Bride". Its great and seems totally real. The actor in it has since gone on to several tv commercials and show, so this is not a spoiler alert. In this video link they seem to have caught on that these guys are there only to fuck them and leave.[/QUOTE]You have to be careful because if you keep applying for fiancee visas repeatedly, you could draw suspicion upon yourself as somebody who really isn't interested in getting married, but only in bringing one girlfriend after another to the States who otherwise couldn't qualify to travel on a tourist visa. And that can get you into some trouble with the government. Don't even consider it as it's nothing to play around with these fiancee visas. You don't want to be seen on TLC's 90-day Fiancee program being questioned by the authorities do you now? Hehehe!
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I don't think food stamps are that great of a benefit. I got $100 worth of food stamps and it cost me $76 just to mail the watermelon.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1668762]I don't think food stamps are that great of a benefit. I got $100 worth of food stamps and it cost me $76 just to mail the watermelon.[/QUOTE]Why are you mailing watermelons, LOL??
And if you don't think they are that great of a benefit, just take a trip to your local Walmart around the 1st or the 15th. You'll be the only sucker in there using real money while the rest pull up to the checkout counter with two to three shopping carts full of food, and two different women (who live in the same house) using two different cards to pay for it all, with 4-5 kids running around them, and a lazy, sorry, broke ass dude in tow.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1668772]Why are you mailing watermelons, LOL??
And if you don't think they are that great of a benefit, just take a trip to your local Walmart around the 1st or the 15th. You'll be the only sucker in there using real money while the rest pull up to the checkout counter with two to three shopping carts full of food, and two different women (who live in the same house) using two different cards to pay for it all, with 4-5 kids running around them, and a lazy, sorry, broke ass dude in tow.[/QUOTE]What's amazing to me is how many fat cows are using food stamps. In most countries poor = thin.
In America you can be poor and still be a fat ass.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1668780]What's amazing to me is how many fat cows are using food stamps. In most countries poor = thin.
In America you can be poor and still be a fat ass.[/QUOTE]This photo says it all bro.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1668736]BULLSHIT! They learn of tax-payer funded government programs like WIC, Food Stamps, and how they can rip a man's testicles out through his wallet (R.I.P. Robin Williams) through divorce and child support!
Rights and opportunities my ass![/QUOTE]What is wrong with WIC and food stamps and what does either have to do with divorce or child support? Me and many of my friends got food stamps while we were in college. One of my friends was even able to qualify for Section 8 as a single man with no kids when we were in college and got a nice apartment for $6/ month. I also got food stamps when I lost my job.
My mother got WIC for my brother even though she had a good paying government job and our dad made good money as well. I also got WIC for my daughter when I was making decent money.
As a Navy veteran I found out that I am due $882/month for disability because I have sleep apnea. Should I not have filed a claim for that?
Should I not have accepted a Pell Grant and a Georgia Grant while I was in school since I was on a Navy scholarship anyway?
If you are eligible for a program then you should take full advantage of it. Maybe some people are just too proud, while others are thankful and don't mind taking advantage of the benefits and opportunities that are afforded to them. So don't get mad with those who are home with a full belly while you are sitting around with an empty fridge because you don't want to get your ass off your shoulders. I didn't invent the system, but I sure don't mind using it.
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90 day fiance
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1668328]Since we are on the subject, has anyone watched 90 Day Fiance? A bunch of dorks bringing chicks from overseas (Brazil, Colombia, Philippines, Russia, South Africa) to their podunk towns with the hopes of marrying them within 90 days before the visa expires. I have not seen one guy on this show who has a pair of nuts. And any kind of affection the guy has to initiate it first. Dumb asses. 23 year old Brazilian chick telling a 38 year old man that he is not allowed to have a bachelor party and has to throw out all his Playboy books. Biotch I will throw you out before I throw these books out.[/QUOTE]I've watched that show regularly and 80 percent of the guys seem gay. They bring these girls here to America and the first thing you see is the fucked up life these guys have made for themselves. They usually live with their parents in some rural part of the country, they barely have jobs, and they have no idea of what they are doing. The interesting part is the girls are beautiful and seem sincere. The problem is that these guys don't have any respect for the culture that they have stolen these girls from. They don't want to learn any of the customs these girls have grown up with and are selfish to ask a women to suddenly adapt to American life. More than half of the guys on this show haven't even fucked the girl yet. These are some loser gay guys trying to make one last stance against "am I really gay" at the expense of some foreign girl who they think they can purchase as a trophy wife to hide their gayness.
On the latest episode one guy has a Brazilian fiance that he back tracked of his buddy on the internet. He has an old ass El Camino with no A/C and a house with a pool with green water. He still lives with his Dad. He wasn't even sure she was going to meet him at the airport in Brazil when he arrived. He spent all that money to fly down there on a hope then refuses to buy her a nice bedroom set. He doesn't even stand up to his friends who insults his fiance.
Its interesting because if these guys had been Black Americans the talk would be how these guys are so cold and have mislead these girls.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1668791]What is wrong with WIC and food stamps and what does either have to do with divorce or child support? Me and many of my friends got food stamps while we were in college. One of my friends was even able to qualify for Section 8 as a single man with no kids when we were in college and got a nice apartment for $6/ month. I also got food stamps when I lost my job.
My mother got WIC for my brother even though she had a good paying government job and our dad made good money as well. I also got WIC for my daughter when I was making decent money.
As a Navy veteran I found out that I am due $882/month for disability because I have sleep apnea. Should I not have filed a claim for that?
Should I not have accepted a Pell Grant and a Georgia Grant while I was in school since I was on a Navy scholarship anyway?
If you are eligible for a program then you should take full advantage of it. Maybe some people are just too proud, while others are thankful and don't mind taking advantage of the benefits and opportunities that are afforded to them. So don't get mad with those who are home with a full belly while you are sitting around with an empty fridge because you don't want to get your ass off your shoulders. I didn't invent the system, but I sure don't mind using it.[/QUOTE]Unless you were fresh off the boat from Zimbabwe, the same situation doesn't apply. You are talking apples and oranges.
TG was talking about foreigners who haven't been here for 5 minutes learning of their "rights and opportunities". They haven't contributed anything to the system in the form of taxes or social security like the rest of us, yet they feel they are entitled to free government shit that I the taxpayer am funding.
If you bring your Thai broad over here and have a kid with her and she leaves you a year later, she should not be able to get WIC, food stamps, housing subsidies (ask yourself: would she have gotten the same shit in her own shithole country??). She hasn't contributed shit to the system. BUT you are welcomed to let her r@pe your bank account and retirement, lol. Your "mistake" should not be allowed to r@pe the American Tax Payer though.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1668919]BUT you are welcomed to let her r@pe your bank account and retirement, lol. Your "mistake" should not be allowed to r@pe the American Tax Payer though.[/QUOTE]Now you know those broads would have better luck trying to find Tupac than for me to get them cheese on a Whopper; let alone getting their hands on my bread.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1668919]Unless you were fresh off the boat from Zimbabwe, the same situation doesn't apply. You are talking apples and oranges.
TG was talking about foreigners who haven't been here for 5 minutes learning of their "rights and opportunities". They haven't contributed anything to the system in the form of taxes or social security like the rest of us, yet they feel they are entitled to free government shit that I the taxpayer am funding.
If you bring your Thai broad over here and have a kid with her and she leaves you a year later, she should not be able to get WIC, food stamps, housing subsidies (ask yourself: would she have gotten the same shit in her own shithole country??). She hasn't contributed shit to the system. BUT you are welcomed to let her r@pe your bank account and retirement, lol. Your "mistake" should not be allowed to r@pe the American Tax Payer though.[/QUOTE]Social safety nets are not only in the USA. Every westernized 1st world country has them. That's what sets them apart from 3rd world nations. They assist people get a foot up. When they get knocked down.
I don't care how long a woman has been in the country. If she is homeless or battered. I am glad we have a country where that person. Can get a place to stay, food and assistance until they gets back on their feet.
Now that may put a damper on those who want / need women to be dependent, poor and desperate so they must do whatever it takes to survive.
They need to go live in 3rd world countries and be happy. The women are waiting.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1669015]Now that may put a damper on those who want / need women to be dependent, poor and desperate so they must do whatever it takes to survive.
They need to go live in 3rd world countries and be happy. [/QUOTE]And that appears to be precisely the make-up of this thread.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1669015]Social safety nets are not only in the USA. Every westernized 1st world country has them. That's what sets them apart from 3rd world nations. They assist people get a foot up. When they get knocked down.
[/QUOTE]Well thank you for making my case. Those "social safety nets" you speak of are reserved for the persons from those countries. They are not designed to assist people from turd-world countries to come here and get a "foot up" in life on the backs of the tax payers living in that Westernized country!
Why not encourage the despots running those shit 3rd World countries to fix their countries instead?
I get it now: TG most likely works in Washit-ton, D.C. Because all those jokers are more than happy to be liberal with other people's money. They don't call America the "Land of Milk and Honey" for nothing. You've just admitted that people's main motivation for coming here is to suck the system of those "social safety nets" not even afforded to them in their own damn country!
What's stopping a chick you married, brought here, and divorced from wanting to return to the PI or Thailand to be with her family? Answer: no system there to milk for food stamps, WIC, or housing subsidies. "Milk much better in US!"
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1669015]Social safety nets are not only in the USA. Every westernized 1st world country has them. That's what sets them apart from 3rd world nations. They assist people get a foot up. When they get knocked down.
I don't care how long a woman has been in the country. If she is homeless or battered. I am glad we have a country where that person. Can get a place to stay, food and assistance until they gets back on their feet.
Now that may put a damper on those who want / need women to be dependent, poor and desperate so they must do whatever it takes to survive.
They need to go live in 3rd world countries and be happy. The women are waiting.[/QUOTE]If you are so happy with the women here, you and RJ should get you one and get off the monger board. No need for you two to go to some third world country and take advantage of those poor girls. Stay here, get you an AW and live happily ever after.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1669111]Well thank you for making my case. [/QUOTE]The only case you ever seem to make is that your not good relating to American women, not getting much yet its all their fault.
Yea, I get it. I think we all get it! Things have changed and its not getting easier for many guys. OK, I feel for you but its a tired song. Many of us are getting by just fine, have no complaints or bitterness.
And what do welfare checks and Walmart have to do with banging American women.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1669122]If you are so happy with the women here, you and RJ should get you one and get off the monger board. No need for you two to go to some third world country and take advantage of those poor girls. Stay here, get you an AW and live happily ever after.[/QUOTE]Dude,
What are you thinking? So when people don't agree with you, you throw a little hissy fit and tell them to go home?
This thread is "American women" . Not the "I can't get laid so all am suck" thread.
In your recent post to me you said something like "I'm done with AM, you can have them". But then your back complaining again. Why?
I don't find Philipinas attractive. That's why I don't go to the Phils. But you never see me in that thread. Just no reason, don't care.
OK, like Savpro your also not good with AM. We get it but why rag on and on?
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1669015]
Now that may put a damper on those who want / need women to be dependent, poor and desperate so they must do whatever it takes to survive.
They need to go live in 3rd world countries and be happy. The women are waiting.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1669102]And that appears to be precisely the make-up of this thread.[/QUOTE]Coming from the guy who likes his Bangkok bar girl hookers at $50 bucks a pop:
[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1667897]Bar girls, office girls, 711 girls, etc. In BKK there's nothing but girls, they're everywhere.
For 50 bucks one can have anyone of a thousand girls in an anonymous room off a back alley and do evil things.[/QUOTE]Hypocrite much?
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1668742]You have to be careful because if you keep applying for fiancee visas repeatedly, you could draw suspicion upon yourself as somebody who really isn't interested in getting married, but only in bringing one girlfriend after another to the States who otherwise couldn't qualify to travel on a tourist visa. And that can get you into some trouble with the government. [/QUOTE]No I have a TS security clearance that I would not risk for anybody. I was just pointing out that vid on YT. I did, however, consider taking 10 k from a friend that wanted to get his Pinay sis-in-law to the states. Hell I think she was even pregnant! But I did not take him up on it.
My problem is that I want to find a place in the Phils that I can leave for work, but I know it's going to be broken into. I guess the only solution is to hire a maid to live there. But who knows WTF will be going on while I'm gone. I want my shit there when I return. Anybody have any ideas on that?
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Well, instead of getting a Filipina maid to watch your place, you could get an American Woman to watch it. Then, instead of worrying about whether your sh! T would be gone when you got back, you would [B]know[/B] that it would be. That would eliminate a lot of useless worry.
Or, you could choose to live in less horsesh! T of a country. The appeal of The Philippines escapes me.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1669111]You've just admitted that people's main motivation for coming here is to suck the system of those "social safety nets" not even afforded to them in their own damn country!...[/QUOTE]No you are the one saying people are coming to get on safety nets. I strictly stated the system and how if needed, in 1st world countries (not only the USA) they are available.
But this is not a political Forum so I won't address your views. Safety net systems are in all western modern 1st world societies. If you have a problem with them. There are plenty 3rd world countries without them you can move to. Cya. Wouldn't want ta be ya.
We are discussing women though. Beautiful American Women at that. How can anyone talk politics with sexy AW all around.
Hell I'm on my way to hit on my favorite Hooters chick tonight while I watch the game. I'll suck down a cold one for you. It don't get no better than that.
Peace
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1669122]If you are so happy with the women here, you and RJ should get you one and get off the monger board. No need for you two to go to some third world country and take advantage of those poor girls. Stay here, get you an AW and live happily ever after.[/QUOTE]Its call vacation. I am not saying those women aren't fun. But AW are also. I'm not say those women aren't sexy. But AW are also. See the difference between us. Is I think both are OK.
No one country has a monopoly on good women. One is no better than the other. Each have their good and bad qualities. Period. Can you understand that?
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1669168]The appeal of The Philippines escapes me.[/QUOTE]Yeah I've researched both The PI and The DR, and for different reasons I just can't get amped up to go to either one of those countries. Would be better than just staying home all the time and messing with only AW, but thankfully we have many other destinations to choose from besides The PI and The DR.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1669172]
Hell I'm on my way to hit on my favorite Hooters chick tonight while I watch the game.
[/QUOTE]I never understood this mindset; to me this is a lack of self-respect. Why give validation to some chick that is never going to fuck you. Are American men really drooling all over their hot wings night after night over the chick making $9. 00/ HR to hand them ranch dipping. The chick probably gets banged by 3-5 dudes per week, and here you are thirsting for a mere smile. I wonder if you drop a $100 tip if she accidentally brushes up against you. Not that I am trying to deter you from your exploits, I just find this behavior strange. Am I the only one that feels this way? I just do not want to chase after a chick that does not want to fuck me. I am sure there are plenty of chicks down to fuck you (maybe how the fuck should I know) the way you talk, and if not this is a monger board. So I hope it is not crazy to say pay for it.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1669177]Its call vacation. I am not saying those women aren't fun. But AW are also. I'm not say those women aren't sexy. But AW are also. See the difference between us. Is I think both are OK.
No one country has a monopoly on good women. One is no better than the other. Each have their good and bad qualities. Period. Can you understand that?[/QUOTE]I understand that when you go to Hooters tonight to watch the game, drink a brew and hit on your favorite Hooter Girl. Afterwards you will be going home with your Dick in your hand.
I understand when I land in Thailand tomorrow, go out and have a beer, when I go home it will be with an Asian Hottie and we both will probably have spent the same amount of money.
You tipping some Hooter girl that thinks you are a creepy old man and me with one of my favorites waiting on me to get there.
I think I understand.
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[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1669201]I never understood this mindset; to me this is a lack of self-respect. Why give validation to some chick that is never going to fuck you. Are American men really drooling all over their hot wings night after night over the chick making $9. 00/ HR to hand them ranch dipping. The chick probably gets banged by 3-5 dudes per week, and here you are thirsting for a mere smile. I wonder if you drop a $100 tip if she accidentally brushes up against you. Not that I am trying to deter you from your exploits, I just find this behavior strange.[/QUOTE]Yeah, he should have at least lied and said he was going to "bang" his favorite Hooters girl, lol. The fact that he is essentially paying money to flirt with a chick who probably wouldn't sneeze on him by accident, let alone touch him, just adds to the validity of this Opinions > American Women thread and why it is still alive and kicking.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1669370]Yeah, he should have at least lied and said he was going to "bang" his favorite Hooters girl, lol. The fact that he is essentially paying money to flirt with a chick who probably wouldn't sneeze on him by accident, let alone touch him, just adds to the validity of this Opinions > American Women thread and why it is still alive and kicking.[/QUOTE]Poor guy, the girl would probably have him arrested for are**e if their hands ever touched during the receipt exchange. I would be laughing if it were not so sad, still laughing though. This thread is alive to remind guys no matter how much you want sex in between probation periods; it usually is not worth it. In American sex requires too much work for a subpar product. I could have sex with 4's and 5's but my probation hearing is in May and I am very optimistic and have too much self-respect.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1669168]The appeal of The Philippines escapes me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheCane;1669186]Yeah I've researched both The PI and The DR, and for different reasons I just can't get amped up to go to either one of those countries. [/QUOTE]It's obvious to me.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1669207]I understand that when you go to Hooters tonight to watch the game, drink a brew and hit on your favorite Hooter Girl. Afterwards you will be going home with your Dick in your hand.
I understand when I land in Thailand tomorrow, go out and have a beer, when I go home it will be with an Asian Hottie and we both will probably have spent the same amount of money.
You tipping some Hooter girl that thinks you are a creepy old man and me with one of my favorites waiting on me to get there.
I think I understand.[/QUOTE]There are Hooters girls in Manila you can bang. I've only been to the one in Manila but I did get a phone number. There are millions of other hot girls, hotter than hooters, P4 P and non P4 P, that you can bang in PI, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Indonesia for a fraction of what is costs in the USA and these girls are sweet and have tight twats and willing mouths. I'm 59 and go to Asia and / or Latin America at least twice a year. Going to DR for the first time in June and can't wait to get my hands on those extraordinary mams. The Hooters here are eye candy only but I still go there once in awhile. At least they will pose for a pic with you. GO PACKERS!
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1669162]No I have a TS security clearance that I would not risk for anybody...
...My problem is that I want to find a place in the Phils that I can leave for work, but I know it's going to be broken into.[/QUOTE]I feel you on having TS clearance. To have a secure place in the PI depends on how much money you got. If you have wads of cash, then get a condominium in the metropolis if it suits you. Another is get a house within a gated community which are all over the country. Those areas are not crime-proof but they greatly reduce your exposure to theft. Instead of hiring a maid, you can hire a guard through a private security company. It is common to see those especially in posh residences.
I suggest to hide valuable stuff (e. G. Computers, HDTVs, appliances) as creatively as possible. Then substitute those appliances when feasible with their cheap local equivalents. Have the thief steal the cheap stuff.
For important documents and cash, you can always rent a safe deposit box at a bank.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1669135]Coming from the guy who likes his Bangkok bar girl hookers at $50 bucks a pop:
Hypocrite much?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=SavePros321;1669370]The fact that he is essentially paying money to flirt with a chick who probably wouldn't sneeze on him by accident, let alone touch him, just adds to the validity of this Opinions > American Women thread and why it is still alive and kicking.[/QUOTE]Whoa, dude, calm down, your head is all over the place. Your killing our language, nouns and verbs are not interchangeable, and my post you quoted has nothing to do with AM or this discussion.
It was just an observation and in fact the next time I spend $50 for a girl in BKK will be the first time since I roll large but no matter.
Nobody here wants to fight with you. But because your having a tough time doesn't make everyone else a loser.
The guy stops on the way home for a burger and a beer and maybe catch the fourth quarter of a game and he's suddenly a loser? Certainly better than stopping at an "in-and-out" burger or whatever some other local chain, no?
And you don't know anything about the guy. Maybe he's already banged all the waitresses already and he stopped in to see the new recruits' or maybe not but either way, why are you so angry? Is this really the "angry" thread?
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1669398]It's obvious to me.
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[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=210247[/URL][/QUOTE]In my case the lack of appeal of the Phils has a lot to do with the weather and the infrastructure, not the women. Now the DR, the reason I don't go there definitely [B]is[/B] the women. Worst fucks I have come across and dishonest as hell.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1669448]In my case the lack of appeal of the Phils has a lot to do with the weather and the infrastructure, not the women. Now the DR, the reason I don't go there definitely [B]is[/B] the women. Worst fucks I have come across and dishonest as hell.[/QUOTE]DH, your name says it all. Where DO you go or do you just like to rag on everyone, everywhere and everything?
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1669448]Now the DR, the reason I don't go there definitely [B]is[/B] the women. Worst fucks I have come across and dishonest as hell.[/QUOTE]Speaking in terms of hookers yes that is generally the case. They are hustlers just as hookers are supposed to be. Their job is to separate you from as much money (or as much of your shit) as they can as fast as they can do it and however they can do it. But this is not so when dealing with regular women.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1669463]Their job is to separate you from as much money (or as much of your shit) as they can as fast as they can do it and however they can do it. But this is not so when dealing with regular women.[/QUOTE]Yea, it just takes them a little longer, is way more subtle and is not nearly as much fun.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1669207]I understand that when you go to Hooters tonight to watch the game, drink a brew and hit on your favorite Hooter Girl. Afterwards you will be going home with your Dick in your hand.
I understand when I land in Thailand tomorrow, go out and have a beer, when I go home it will be with an Asian Hottie and we both will probably have spent the same amount of money.
You tipping some Hooter girl that thinks you are a creepy old man and me with one of my favorites waiting on me to get there.
I think I understand.[/QUOTE]See there you go. That mindset is probably those of most AW haters. The idea that even when going to watch a sports game. You should be able to fuck the waitress. Your every interaction with a woman is based on "How much" and "How long". And "If" she doesn't want to fuck you. After meeting to you one time. The Nerve. What a stuck up b.
Again you guys read into things to fit your agenda. I like to flirt with babes. We go to Hooters to watch sports. My friends and I have been going for awhile and know the babes. We laugh and bullshit. I never said anything about trying to get laid or wanting to get laid.
I'm sure its your mindsets which women can see during your conversations as much to do with not being able to meet any. Guys not knowing how to have a conversation without it basically being "How much" "How soon" "how Long" . And if they don't let you know on 1st meeting. Because. What give's her the right to be choosy.
Maybe that's why I don't have to spend months with my "Dick my Hand" as TellAll so eloquently stated. Waiting to only get pussy when I go abroad.
The way I see it. I go abroad too. Which means. I get to have the same "Fun" as you guys. PLUS. While you are at home with "Dick in Hand" wacking off dreaming about your next trip. I'm laying between some thighs busting nuts in AW, not my hand. All them months wacking off, bet you guys have some soft hands. Hahaha.
TG865
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[QUOTE=DCups;1669461]DH, your name says it all. Where DO you go or do you just like to rag on everyone, everywhere and everything?[/QUOTE]Hey, some country's women have to have the title of the worst fucks. In my experience it has been dominicanas. You don't like my posts, don't fucken read them. I like South America the best, and give the title of the world's [B]best[/B] fucks to the paraguayas. I also like Slovakia and Spain for mongering. Even Mexico is better for mongering than screwing dominicanas. Australia is also good for mongering, although less so at current exchange rates than when I was there. And, of course, Costa Rica where I will be tomorrow.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1669491]Hey, some country's women have to have the title of the worst fucks. In my experience it has been dominicanas. .[/QUOTE]I think the experience would be better with more Spanish fluency, away from the obvious monger areas. Hustlers have to hustle. More GFE does not always equate to more dinero. So she is going to watch the clock. Never been to CR. More GFE?
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American woman!
[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1669398]It's obvious to me.
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[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=210247[/URL][/QUOTE]Uuuuhhhh those aren't the reasons why I don't have an interest in going to The PI and The DR right now LOL! As a matter of fact, you can find all of that in places with a better infrastructure and more things to do as a tourist with less bullshit from the lazy tutes like you get in The DR, not to mention all the touts there who want to get paid as middlemen. Plus the crooked cops you have to watch out for. But alas, let's get back to slicing and dicing up the evil ways of the AW!
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I have a university degree in Spanish and have lived in Spanish-speaking countries for ten years, and none of the dominicanas I've fucked were in the DR, since I have never been there and don't plan on going. Not only I am I completely fluent but I can choose among several different styles and accents of Spanish. So toss that theory. Costa Rica is pretty GFE in my opinion, although I fuck more nicas than ticas, actually. I have fucked dominicanas in Argentina, Mexico, Spain, Jamaica, Chile, and (for some strange reason) Belgium. I may even have fucked a few in Costa Rica many years ago, before I came to recognize the accent and was thus able to avoid them. CR has many dominicanas working there, both at the Del Rey (avoid) and on Calle Ocho.
Here is my dominicana imitation: "Terminaste? Terminaste? Terminaste? Ya terminaste?"
Get the picture?
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1669444]Whoa, dude, calm down, your head is all over the place. why are you so angry? Is this really the "angry" thread?[/QUOTE]Well, I am sorry if your abnormally high estrogen levels are translating my OPINIONS as anger for you. This IS an Opinions thread, after all.
If you don't like my opinions, take Dickhead's advice:
[QUOTE=Dickhead;1669491]You don't like my posts, don't fucken read them.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1669491]Hey, some country's women have to have the title of the worst fucks. In my experience it has been dominicanas. You don't like my posts, don't fucken read them. I like South America the best, and give the title of the world's [B]best[/B] fucks to the paraguayas. I also like Slovakia and Spain for mongering. Even Mexico is better for mongering than screwing dominicanas. Australia is also good for mongering, although less so at current exchange rates than when I was there. And, of course, Costa Rica where I will be tomorrow.[/QUOTE]My apologies, DH. Yes, a significant advantage in speaking Spanish. I spent two months in Rio many years ago and had a great time. Never been to Slovakia or Spain but been to Tijuana a lot. Different strokes for different folks.
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So here's a guess but I'the be curious to heat Mr. E's take on it.
Could it be that its just a never ending loop of victim mentality? I don't win so therefore I can't win so therefore anyone who appears to win has something wrong with them as some kind of semi sick self compensating defense?
Accusing seemingly typical people of abnormal things even though they are very typical situations. Like a burger and a beer in a bar?
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1669480]See there you go. That mindset is probably those of most AW haters. The idea that even when going to watch a sports game. You should be able to fuck the waitress. Your every interaction with a woman is based on "How much" and "How long". And "If" she doesn't want to fuck you. After meeting to you one time. The Nerve. What a stuck up b.
Again you guys read into things to fit your agenda. I like to flirt with babes. We go to Hooters to watch sports. My friends and I have been going for awhile and know the babes. We laugh and bullshit. I never said anything about trying to get laid or wanting to get laid.
I'm sure its your mindsets which women can see during your conversations as much to do with not being able to meet any. Guys not knowing how to have a conversation without it basically being "How much" "How soon" "how Long" . And if they don't let you know on 1st meeting. Because. What give's her the right to be choosy.
Maybe that's why I don't have to spend months with my "Dick my Hand" as TellAll so eloquently stated. Waiting to only get pussy when I go abroad.
The way I see it. I go abroad too. Which means. I get to have the same "Fun" as you guys. PLUS. While you are at home with "Dick in Hand" wacking off dreaming about your next trip. I'm laying between some thighs busting nuts in AW, not my hand. All them months wacking off, bet you guys have some soft hands. Hahaha.
TG865[/QUOTE]I to have favorite bars in the USA. I'll go there, eat drink and flirt with the hot waitresses and bartenders that I know and know me. I enjoy it as most men would. But at the end of the day even that interaction is about money. They know I tip well and they are earning their tip.
Now as far as wining and dining some post menopausal AW with more baggage then the belly of a 747 for some sex, I think I'll pass. You are more than welcome to my share. Maybe you should move to a retirement community. I'm sure there will be plenty of 60 and 70 yr old hags that will love to fuck you. Then you can come back here and brag about how much AW sex you are getting. Wait you are already doing that.
For the record, I don't do without even in the US. I just don't care for the quality of the sex in the US all that much.
Unless I'm getting it from a hot young thing, which I do regularly.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1670713]For the record, I don't do without even in the US. I just don't care for the quality of the sex in the US all that much.[B]Unless I'm getting it from a hot young thing[/B], which I do regularly.[/QUOTE]So there you go. Finally. You admit there are plenty of hot AW to be had. Which are good and you find regularly (your words).
When hot ones won't due. Like every other older man in the world, you have sex with a woman your own age.
Damn them AW. Mainly wanting sex within their age group. Damn them.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1670713]Maybe you should move to a retirement community. I'm sure there will be plenty of 60 and 70 yr old hags that will love to fuck you. Then you can come back here and brag about how much AW sex you are getting. Wait you are already doing that.[/QUOTE]Dude,
We feel for you. Thankfully there are 3rd world countries, right?
Hang in there and best of luck.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1670761]So there you go. Finally. You admit there are plenty of hot AW to be had. Which are good and you find regularly (your words).[/QUOTE]Yes there are many beautiful AW. Sex is a beautiful and natural thing. The desire for it by a man is second only to food and shelter. We are animals, with intellect yes, but at the end of the day we need to fuck (a lot). So this being the first world and what not means we are to suppress that desire and go the route of courtship and marriage to get laid. Pussy should be as available as take-out pizza LIKE EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE FUCKING WORLD!
Now this dude is going to lose everything just because he wanted to get laid: [URL]http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/cbs-suspends-greg-anthony-indefinitely-hooker-bust-article-1.2082263[/URL].
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1671097]Now this dude is going to lose everything just because he wanted to get laid: [URL]http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/cbs-suspends-greg-anthony-indefinitely-hooker-bust-article-1.2082263[/URL].[/QUOTE]Too bad for this guy. Charles Barkley has been busted for the same thing, nothing happened. But as the article said, Anthony was a commentator in college arena and this affected young people? Maybe not fair, but is the risk you take. He probably just wanted a BJ.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1670761]So there you go. Finally. You admit there are plenty of hot AW to be had. Which are good and you find regularly (your words).
When hot ones won't due. Like every other older man in the world, you have sex with a woman your own age.
Damn them AW. Mainly wanting sex within their age group. Damn them.[/QUOTE]The hotties I am referring to are not in my age group. They are much younger. They don't fuck me because we are BFF's, they do it for money and I do it so they will go afterwards. Still not interested in any Aw in my age group.
I'm in Pattaya now.
Last night I was on a FL hunt at one of the Discos. There were about 5 or 6 Thai Hotties on the dance floor dancing together when all of a sudden this old fat ass western hog jumps into the middle of them and starts shaking her ample stuff.
I remember thinking, where is my good friend ThatGuy when I need him. He could harpoon this whale and get it out of here. The next day he could brag about how he got it for free and I had to pay some hot Thai Babe for sex.
Oh well maybe next time.
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[QUOTE=RumBuddy;1671108]Too bad for this guy. Charles Barkley has been busted for the same thing, nothing happened. But as the article said, Anthony was a commentator in college arena and this affected young people? Maybe not fair, but is the risk you take. He probably just wanted a BJ.[/QUOTE]Firing somebody for trying to get laid, only in America. Arresting somebody for trying to buy sex, DC Police should have better things to do with their time.
Just another way of keeping men in sex prison.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1671135]Last night I was on a FL hunt at one of the Discos. There were about 5 or 6 Thai Hotties on the dance floor dancing together when all of a sudden this old fat ass western hog jumps into the middle of them and starts shaking her ample stuff.
I remember thinking, where is my good friend ThatGuy when I need him. He could harpoon this whale and get it out of here. The next day he could brag about how he got it for free and I had to pay some hot Thai Babe for sex.
Oh well maybe next time.[/QUOTE]Yep. And like a good wingman. I would have taken the grenade for you. Whispered sweet things into the ear of that foreign curvacious goddess and parted the waters for my pal TellAll to do his thing.
We have got to run the bars. Next time I'm in Pattaya.
TG865. Peace.
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5 Ways Life as a Prostitute is Nothing Like You Expect
Article from Cracked about hookers:
[URL]http://www.cracked.com/article_21862_5-ways-life-as-prostitute-nothing-like-you-expect.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weeklynewsletter[/URL]
"There's this belief that sex workers really love sex. But it's not sex, it's work. After seeing a client, I wouldn't feel like 'I just got laid.' It'd actually make me want to be with my partner more, because I knew what I had with him was real."
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Enjoying the AW. Once I was able to accept the reality that I was not going to attract 20 yr old women any longer and put my focus on more age appropriate women. My AW pussy rate has been off the chart.
Its amazing how many late 30 yr to mid 40 yr old women are sitting around wanting a guy and the thing is. They have their own money, secure jobs, all they want is a guy. No impressive dating required. After a simple meal 1st date most just want to sit at home, watch a movie, drink some wine, cuddle and fuck. Can't ask for a better weekend. Super bowl weekend I will be in the USA knee deep in women and football. Hope you guys are too.
Don't condemn yourself to "sexual" prison isolation waiting for periodical probation to go abroad. There are sexy AW waiting to help with your situation. Even if its just to take you through the times between trips.
TG865
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1676744] There are sexy AW waiting to help with your situation. TG865[/QUOTE]Yeah this one contacted me on POF. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=208032[/URL] . I can't wait to choke on her cig smoke, listen to grandkid stories while paying for her dinner, and wait till the respectable third date before we fuck! Yummm Yum!
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1676744]
Its amazing how many late 30 yr to mid 40 yr old women are sitting around wanting a guy and the thing is. They have their own money, secure jobs, all they want is a guy. No impressive dating required. After a simple meal 1st date most just want to sit at home, watch a movie, drink some wine, cuddle and fuck.
TG865[/QUOTE]I can't think of anything grosser than sitting around drinking wine with a mid 40 year old woman after having sex with her. I like to rinse and run after those types of experiences.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1678549]Yeah this one contacted me on POF. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=208032[/URL] . I can't wait to choke on her cig smoke, listen to grandkid stories while paying for her dinner, and wait till the respectable third date before we fuck! Yummm Yum![/QUOTE]I just finished shaking one of the last remnants of my failed attempt at jumping back into AW online dating. Chick looked nice in her photos, but I never got around to meeting her in person. Reason? She has two 3 yr old twins, and everytime she called me I could hear those knuckle heads screaming in the background. She could barely talk to me without instructing them to do something (or to stop doing something) every 5 seconds. It was distracting as hell.
It's a fucked up situation because the guy that knocked her up jetted on her to another state and (according to her) is in no way contributing to helping her with her kids. But that's no my fault. I'm pretty sure she knew this guy wasn't about shit long before he got her pregnant.
I stopped calling her. She would continue to call me and text me though. Seemed pretty desperate to meet someone, but good luck with that baggage. I think she finally got the picture though and has moved on.
Maybe TG865 can don his cape and come and save her :D
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Package deal?
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1678632]I just finished shaking one of the last remnants of my failed attempt at jumping back into AW online dating. Chick looked nice in her photos, but I never got around to meeting her in person. Reason? She has two 3 yr old twins, and everytime she called me I could hear those knuckle heads screaming in the background. She could barely talk to me without instructing them to do something (or to stop doing something) every 5 seconds. It was distracting as hell. I stopped calling her. She would continue to call me and text me though. Seemed pretty desperate to meet someone, but good luck with that baggage. I think she finally got the picture though and has moved on.[/QUOTE]Women like this will often defiantly proclaim, "We're a package deal!" Well, we see the package. But where the hell is the deal? I'm not about to be responsible for raising some loser guy's kids. Kids that she's very likely to always put before you too since they're hers, but not yours. Not going to happen. I won't even date women who have children. I just don't go there. Bang them yes. But "date"? Nope! Hit it and quit it and keep on stepping!
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1678632]I stopped calling her. She would continue to call me and text me though. Seemed pretty desperate to meet someone, but good luck with that baggage. I think she finally got the picture though and has moved on.
Maybe TG865 can don his cape and come and save her :D[/QUOTE]SavePro,
I knew we'd find common ground sooner or later. On this subject I have to agree. I won't deal with somebody else's rugrats. That is where I draw the line. But I have been known to "tap that a $$" and run a couple of times in my past. But I tend not to even want to deal with them on that level any more.
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Internet Dating is Officially Dead!
They killed it fellas. Forget about it, LOL (see attached photo).
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1671097]Now this dude is going to lose everything just because he wanted to get laid: [URL]http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/cbs-suspends-greg-anthony-indefinitely-hooker-bust-article-1.2082263[/URL].[/QUOTE]Maybe he will write a book about his career and downfall, sell the movie-rights and retire to SE Asia.
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Well guys, one of my favorite strippers in town here (Sacramento) got fired from the strip club (unknown reason) and she contacted me for a possible home visit. Mind you she is 50 years old with the body of a 20-something and large fake boobs on a skinny body. She always took care of me in the club and let me fuck her once there for $80 but normally just BJ / HJ. She said she would come over for $300. I countered with $100 (no more) and have not heard back and don't expect to. If she tries to hustle me up I'm going to let out the big secret: for $300, baby, I can get five CIM BBBJs with video from my home delivery brown sugar OR save it up for DR or PI and get all night long, no holes barred with eight to ten YOUNG babes with terrific bodies, less attitude, more GFE and hopefully on film. What do you think?
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1678549]Yeah this one contacted me on POF. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=208032[/URL] . I can't wait to choke on her cig smoke, listen to grandkid stories while paying for her dinner, and wait till the respectable third date before we fuck! Yummm Yum![/QUOTE]I don't even open my POF mail anymore. They're all beached whales like this one.
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[QUOTE=DCups;1685720]What do you think?[/QUOTE]Dude,
I would never tell anyone who to or not to fuck or how much he should pay for pussy. How we spend our money is our own business. But personally, there isn't a 50 year old woman on the planet I'the pay to fuck. Period.
Even one of my all time favorites, Cindy Crawford, at her age, would only get a fine meal and some flowers (and she'the have to flirt A LOT and talk dirty and get me hard over desert).
If your friends still trickin' at 50 and can't even keep a job on the pole, I think I would throw her a few hundred every once in a while out of pity just so she can keep her lights on.
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[QUOTE=DCups;1685720] She said she would come over for $300. I countered with $100 (no more) . What do you think?[/QUOTE]Typical "My pussy is lined with gold" AW attitude. Is she giving more than one pop with max GFE? Hell no! Your price is fair. No effin way I pay her prices. A little self discipline goes a long way. That's the price of a lot of nice clothes, electronics, or whatever - for myself. At the end of the day it's just an orgasm. Feels just as good to rub one out.
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What do I think?
[QUOTE=DCups;1685720]What do you think?[/QUOTE]It's a typical AW overvaluing the pussy. Acting like she's doing you some favor or something, when really it would be you doing her the favor! She isn't offering shit. I know that. You know that. We all know that. You make sure she knows it too! Hit her with the cold, hard facts. Fuck her. No, better than that. Don't! Not at any price either. That's what I think.
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If
If it was made absolutely clear up front that sex was off table (not happening), would anyone still invest the time for conversations, shopping, dinners, museums, etc, etc. ,.
I do not think so. That is why after sex we generally lose interest. Unless she owns a fishing boat, and can cut bait.
Therefore, instead of wasting hundreds of dollars per shot on AW, take your vacations abroad and have a good time at a discount.
Even in Germany you can get more for $50 that you can for $300 in the USA.
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[QUOTE=Mahaba;1686704]If it was made absolutely clear up front that sex was off table (not happening), would anyone still invest the time for conversations, shopping, dinners, museums, etc, etc. ,.
I do not think so. That is why after sex we generally lose interest. Unless she owns a fishing boat, and can cut bait.
Therefore, instead of wasting hundreds of dollars per shot on AW, take your vacations abroad and have a good time at a discount.
Even in Germany you can get more for $50 that you can for $300 in the USA.[/QUOTE]You'd rather do these things alone? (conversations, shopping, dinners, museums, etc, etc.).
Most of those things are usually more enjoyable with a nice girl -- yes, even if sex is off the table -- unless you just hate being around people, which is typically unusual for our species.
I personally don't enjoy fishing. I'd much rather hang out with a nice girl than be sitting on some boat waiting to catch some fish. To each his own I suppose.
I agree with your observation about the disparity in the price of services inside versus outside the US, but that doesn't necessarily diminish the enjoyment of spending time with a nice girl.
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[QUOTE=Mahaba;1686704]If it was made absolutely clear up front that sex was off table (not happening), would anyone still invest the time for conversations, shopping, dinners, museums, etc, etc. ,.
I do not think so. That is why after sex we generally lose interest. Unless she owns a fishing boat, and can cut bait.
Therefore, instead of wasting hundreds of dollars per shot on AW, take your vacations abroad and have a good time at a discount.
Even in Germany you can get more for $50 that you can for $300 in the USA.[/QUOTE]Obviously many men don't agree. That's why there are terms "Girlfriend" and Wife. Because most men love to do many things with women not only sex. I know for guys solely dedicated to P4P, it's a hard concept to understand.
But there are many men who love the company of a woman. One reason the majority of American men don't consider foreign women an option. Is the cultural and language differences. The majority of men want relationships with women they can converse to and relate to. As much as having sex.
Obviously for most men. Being with women is more than just about sex.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1686710]You'd rather do these things alone? (conversations, shopping, dinners, museums, etc, etc.).
Most of those things are usually more enjoyable with a nice girl -- yes, even if sex is off the table -- unless you just hate being around people, which is typically unusual for our species.
I personally don't enjoy fishing. I'd much rather hang out with a nice girl than be sitting on some boat waiting to catch some fish. To each his own I suppose.
I agree with your observation about the disparity in the price of services inside versus outside the US, but that doesn't necessarily diminish the enjoyment of spending time with a nice girl.[/QUOTE]Got plenty of male friends to socialize with and have more fun doing it. If sex is not on the table, I can't see any reason to waste my time hanging out with your so called nice girl.
Remember this while you are hanging out with your nice girl. If she is not fucking you she is fucking someone else. Probably some guy who won't take her shopping and spend hours listening to her bullshit. Someone like me.
That just makes you her chump.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1686710]I personally don't enjoy fishing. I'd much rather hang out with a nice girl than be sitting on some boat waiting to catch some fish. To each his own I suppose.[/QUOTE]Your forgetting the elephant in the room when it comes to American style "relationships", and that is the constant ass kissing of the female by the male to get the sex, even after the ring has been put on it. The American male has been reduced to some form of metrosexual female / male hybrid in order to gain and maintain the attention of women. They're are endless books, articles and TV interviews dedicated to women to show how they are ruining their relationships And yes, I like to fish.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1686743]One reason the majority of American men don't consider foreign women an option. Is the cultural and language differences.
Obviously for most men. Being with women is more than just about sex.[/QUOTE]Actually, it's because of the cultural differences that foreign women are the BEST option. That difference is that they have been raised in male dominated societies, and have no idea that they are supposed to cut off the balls of they're men to gain or TAKE power in the union. Language can be learned. End of story.
[QUOTE=TellAll;1686839]That just makes you her chump.[/QUOTE]Let a fool keep fooling himself.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1686839]Remember this while you are hanging out with your nice girl. If she is not fucking you she is fucking someone else. Probably some guy who won't take her shopping and spend hours listening to her bullshit. Someone like me...[/QUOTE]Which means she must be sitting next to you on a fucking bhat bus in Pattaya, Thailand. Yep, those are the girls we date all right. Enjoy the ride.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1686839]Remember this while you are hanging out with your nice girl. If she is not fucking you she is fucking someone else. Probably some guy who won't take her shopping and spend hours listening to her bullshit. Someone like me.
That just makes you her chump.[/QUOTE][quote]That's just an immature outlook. As stated. Many MEN enjoy the company of women. Just as they do men.
It seems you are the one limited. In that you can only drink, hold conversations, with men.
MEN can have fun with a women he doesn't want to fuck. So who cares who else is fucking her. No wonder many guys have issues with women and have to pay for their company. They haven't a clue how to relate to women.
Many MEN enjoy evenings out with women. Since women attract women. Its a win win situation. Go out with women friends and they will draw other women for you to meet. But of course, since guys who only pay for sex. Don't know much about socializing. This concept is foreign to them.
Naked Gunz.[/quote]If foreign women were so attractive to American men and so right for them. Tell me why is it. The majority of service men that go abroad do NOT marry foreign women. Most come back to the states and marry AW. Why is that.
Sure there are some that marry foreign women but the majority don't. And Millions of military guys have been overseas and yet. Most come back to the USA And marry AW.
Seems your theory is not reality. Most want someone who has common language and culture.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1686839]
Remember this while you are hanging out with your nice girl. If she is not fucking you she is fucking someone else. Probably some guy who won't take her shopping and spend hours listening to her bullshit. Someone like me.
That just makes you her chump.[/QUOTE]Alpha fucks; Beta bucks!
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[b]Me [32M] with my wife [31F] of 7 years, our recent homecoming has totally changed my perception of her[/b]
"We met in college and have been together ever since. We recently had a 10 informal get together / reunion with our group from school. While there my wife spent a good amount of time talking with my first roommate from college, someone I never got along with and it has changed my idea of my wife.
When I was first in school my roommate was a popular guy, jock and frat type. He was very good with women. I thought he was superficial and lame but of course women disagreed. He got whatever he wanted. I didn't want the same to his extreme but I admit I resented that even the supposed good girl types lined up to be with him.
I moved out before the end of the year because I got tired of having to share space with yet another of his one night stands 4-5 times a week. He was just that guy, I even had a young-ish professor who was into him.
I moved out and we had some animosity over it even though we'd gotten along on a day to day basis otherwise. When I met my now wife the following year I was very interested in her because she was smart and beautiful [b]and yet seemed unlike the other girls around me[/b]. One big thing was she was always skeptical and critical of my former roommate no matter how many people thought he was awesome.
Understand that when he was accused of harassing and possibly assaulting a girl the following year even the college administrator in charge of investigating the situation defended him as misunderstood and important to the campus community, so finding someone who seemed to be immune to his "spell" so to speak was huge to me. It wasn't the only thing, but it boosted her into another category in my eyes.
So we attended the get together last month and she was hanging out with him for a good amount of time, like old friends. I questioned this later and [B]she has admitted spending time with him while we were dating in college[/B]. It turns out spending time with him also meant having oral sex with him on two occasions, messing around in general on other occasions.
In addition to having betrayed me (admittedly years ago) with my then least favorite person in the world, she still finds him charming today I can tell. I ask what happened to all that she said about him then, her ability to resist that and be sarcastic with him when he'd try to charm her like the others, she says she doesn't know, things just happened, why am I mad? It was years ago, etc.
She feels I'm unfair to hold this against her now, but for a month now I've just not been able to look at her the same. The details of the situation have killed me. Him playing playstation on the couch or watching football while she made him feel good is something I know but wish I didn't now. She tries to make it sound no big deal or just a thing or a mistake but it changes everything to me. She says she wants her husband back and her marriage back, I say I want the wife I thought I had. I wish I hadn't demanded to know what went on after I saw them together last month and the feelings still there apparently for her, at least seeing him as charming or attractive.
I don't intend to divorce but her friends and one of mine say I might be tossing everything away with my reaction. Of course the ones who knew him liked him which makes me sick. Has it been too long for this to be an issue? Am I potentially throwing away a good marriage to who I thought was the perfect woman?"
[URL]http://redditlog.com/snapshots/35098[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1685849]
If your friends still trickin' at 50 and can't even keep a job on the pole, I think I would throw her a few hundred every once in a while out of pity just so she can keep her lights on.[/QUOTE]Of course you would, just like a good little White Knight Beta.
For everyone else, don't save them h0ez!
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[B]Don't Save Her. She Doesn't Want to be Saved[/B]
"So there's the girl. You've known her for a while, and you've always been interested in her. Doesn't matter how you know her; could be work. Maybe a class. Maybe she goes to your gym and you chit chat while you're there.
So this girl keeps telling you stories about all these shitty guys she keeps dating. Guys who manipulate her emotionally. Guys who fuck her and then don't call her back. Sometimes even guys who hit her.
Your natural response is probably going to feel like you need to protect her from this injustice. From whatever pain she's feeling emotionally or otherwise. [b]If only she could see what it's like to date a good guy like you.[/b] You're going to want to save her. Especially if she has a kid.
Don't.
What you're encountering in this moment is a woman of poor decision making skills who allows her life to spin out of control. In the 21st century in modern countries, especially those in Europe and the West, woman have more rights and freedoms than they ever have in history. They are also afforded protections under law that allow them to financially destroy their spouses through alimony and outlandish child support. Broken, damaged women with emotional baggage and sometimes children are not an RP (Red Pill) man's idea of dating material.
The risks in dating these types of women are everywhere. First of all, why would you ever want to date someone who can't keep their own life in check? [b]If she's getting evicted from her place and "needs a place to stay for a while", what does that tell you about her ability to manage her own finances? What happens when she needs to borrow money from you?[/b] If she's got a kid, how long before you "take on a fatherly role" as the state would put it, and she can hit you up for child support? What happens when you realize she was full of shit about all her stories of being abused and is actually bat-shit crazy and starts accusing you?
Don't put yourself in these types of situations. Women who are like this do not want to be saved. They want to continue behaving like children and riding the [dick] carousel. They are not yet emotionally mature enough to be in a relationship that can succeed. And if they have a kid, you shouldn't be responsible for it. She should.
It's been said before that TRP is the radical notion that women are people. So don't save them from their mistakes. If you wouldn't do it for your friend, don't do it for her just because she has a vagina. Afterall, that would be sexist."
[URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2x6jyh/dont_save_her_she_doesnt_want_to_be_saved/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1687152]In addition to having betrayed me (admittedly years ago) with my then least favorite person in the world, she still finds him charming today I can tell. I ask what happened to all that she said about him then, her ability to resist that and be sarcastic with him when he'd try to charm her like the others, she says she doesn't know, things just happened, why am I mad? It was years ago, etc.
She feels I'm unfair to hold this against her now, but for a month now I've just not been able to look at her the same. The details of the situation have killed me. Him playing playstation on the couch or watching football while she made him feel good is something I know but wish I didn't now. She tries to make it sound no big deal or just a thing or a mistake but it changes everything to me. She says she wants her husband back and her marriage back, I say I want the wife I thought I had. I wish I hadn't demanded to know what went on after I saw them together last month and the feelings still there apparently for her, at least seeing him as charming or attractive.
I don't intend to divorce but her friends and one of mine say I might be tossing everything away with my reaction. Of course the ones who knew him liked him which makes me sick. Has it been too long for this to be an issue? Am I potentially throwing away a good marriage to who I thought was the perfect woman?"
[URL]http://redditlog.com/snapshots/35098[/URL][/QUOTE]Sounds to me like this is a nerdy guy and dude is jealous, which really ain't no need to be. Hell the broad is going home to him every night and making him dinner. It also sounds like this was the only chick this guy was ever able to get in his life. So he is thinking mine mine mine and only mine. Well before she was his, she was the other guy's. You can't erase the past. And to think the chick was Miss Virgin before he hooked up with her was just setting himself up for a let down. And if he is not planning on leaving her, what is the point of his rant? What does he want to happen? She can't go back and unsuck the college guy's dick or unfuck the other guy she fooled around on him with. He needs to man the fuck up and look toward the future if he has plans on staying together.
At 17 coming up under the pimps in my city I learned that it is cop and blow. Women come and go. Here today, gone tomorrow. Just because you have her today, it doesn't mean that you will have her forever. So make the best out of it when you do have her. When she is gone, then you shake that shit off and you go get another one. We are all people and people change. Several chicks that I have had for years are still around, but most have moved on to other guys, other lifestyles and what have you. I can't get mad about that the same way the guys they are with now can not get mad because they were with me before. With billions of women on this planet there is no need to sulk over one. If your car breaks down for the last time, if your shoes wear out, what do you do? When shit is not serving its original purpose any longer then you replace it. If you chose not to replace it then don't go around bitchin and moaning about its current condition or what you perceive to be its condition.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1687170]First of all, why would you ever want to date someone who can't keep their own life in check? If she's getting evicted from her place and "needs a place to stay for a while", what does that tell you about her ability to manage her own finances? What happens when she needs to borrow money from you?
[URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2x6jyh/dont_save_her_she_doesnt_want_to_be_saved/[/URL][/QUOTE]If she needs to borrow money from me then she better hand over some collateral to back the loan. I'm not trying to be anybody's Jed Clampet.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1687051]If foreign women .
"That's just an immature outlook. As stated. Many MEN enjoy the company of women. Just as they do men.
It seems you are the one limited. In that you can only drink, hold conversations, with men.
MEN can have fun with a women he doesn't want to fuck. So who cares who else is fucking her. No wonder many guys have issues with women and have to pay for their company. They haven't a clue how to relate to women.
Many MEN enjoy evenings out with women. Since women attract women. Its a win win situation. Go out with women friends and they will draw other women for you to meet. But of course, since guys who only pay for sex. Don't know much about socializing. This concept is foreign to them."
Naked Gunz. [/QUOTE]Hey! Why the hell are you cutting and pasting my handle to somebody else's post? WTF is your problem! Do the thread a favor and go back to the one you have demonstrated a little bit of manhood in.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1687051]If foreign women were so attractive to American men and so right for them. Tell me why is it. The majority of service men that go abroad do NOT marry foreign women. Most come back to the states and marry AW. Why is that.
Sure there are some that marry foreign women but the majority don't. And Millions of military guys have been overseas and yet. Most come back to the USA And marry AW.
Seems your theory is not reality. Most want someone who has common language and culture.[/QUOTE]People especially men don't like getting out of there comfort zone. We do what we are programmed to do. That is why men stay in miserable marriages or enter into three or four of them hoping for the good one that never happens.
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I moved out and we had some animosity over it even though we'd gotten along on a day to day basis otherwise. When I met my now wife the following year I was very interested in her because she was smart and beautiful [b]and yet seemed unlike the other girls around me[/b]. One big thing was she was always skeptical and critical of my former roommate no matter how many people thought he was awesome.
Understand that when he was accused of harassing and possibly assaulting a girl the following year even the college administrator in charge of investigating the situation defended him as misunderstood and important to the campus community, so finding someone who seemed to be immune to his "spell" so to speak was huge to me. It wasn't the only thing, but it boosted her into another category in my eyes.
So we attended the get together last month and she was hanging out with him for a good amount of time, like old friends. I questioned this later and [B]she has admitted spending time with him while we were dating in college[/B]. It turns out spending time with him also meant having oral sex with him on two occasions, messing around in general on other occasions.
In addition to having betrayed me (admittedly years ago) with my then least favorite person in the world, she still finds him charming today I can tell. I ask what happened to all that she said about him then, her ability to resist that and be sarcastic with him when he'd try to charm her like the others, she says she doesn't know, things just happened, why am I mad? It was years ago, etc.
She feels I'm unfair to hold this against her now, but for a month now I've just not been able to look at her the same. The details of the situation have killed me. Him playing playstation on the couch or watching football while she made him feel good is something I know but wish I didn't now. She tries to make it sound no big deal or just a thing or a mistake but it changes everything to me. She says she wants her husband back and her marriage back, I say I want the wife I thought I had. I wish I hadn't demanded to know what went on after I saw them together last month and the feelings still there apparently for her, at least seeing him as charming or attractive.
I don't intend to divorce but her friends and one of mine say I might be tossing everything away with my reaction. Of course the ones who knew him liked him which makes me sick. Has it been too long for this to be an issue? Am I potentially throwing away a good marriage to who I thought was the perfect woman?"
[/QUOTE]Yep you fell for the old, my girl's different thing when she wasn't. They never are. Remember, if your women is talking smack about a man to much, she wants to fuck him.
Now you get weak and say you wish you hadn't ask. Your wife had the Dick of a man you can't stand in her mouth. All while dogging him and professing her love for you.
If she did him, she did and is doing others since it seems to be no big deal to her.
That is the question you need to be asking yourself.
Who is she doing now? Maybe another so called friend.
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1686967]Which means she must be sitting next to you on a fucking bhat bus in Pattaya, Thailand. Yep, those are the girls we date all right. Enjoy the ride.[/QUOTE]RJ, I was in a bar the other night and observered this American Guy with two Western Women. He was buying rounds and they were laughing and talking. After they drank up a fair amount of his money, they said thanks and excused themselves. Add insult to injury, the bitches were ugly.
I said to myself even in Asia some dumb fucks never learn.
Yes I want to be just like him when I grow up. LOL.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1687242]Yep you fell for the old, my girl's different thing when she wasn't. They never are. Remember, if your women is talking smack about a man to much, she wants to fuck him.
[/QUOTE]Only, in this situation she was talking smack about him because she DID fuck him, LOL. She told her boyfriend / husband it was only a couple of blow jobs, but the byatch already lied to him once. The other guy probably fucked her in the ass too. She probably thought that saying it was only a couple of BJ's would make her husband less mad than if she said that she fucked his former roommate and he blew his load in her a few times.
The funny thing is guys on here want to rail us about being strictly p4p, but who in their right mind would want to deal with shit like the guy in the article from Red Pill? He's not going to divorce her unless he's just begging to be taken to the cleaners.
Assume all women are the same. Or don't assume all women are the same and end up like the guy in the story, finding out that sweet, innocent-looking "good girl" you married turned out to be the campus $lut or some jock's side piece while you were dating (and going home with a peck on the cheek and blue balls every night until she finally decided to give you some, hahahaha!).
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1687051]If foreign women were so attractive to American men and so right for them. Tell me why is it. The majority of service men that go abroad do NOT marry foreign women. Most come back to the states and marry AW. Why is that.
Sure there are some that marry foreign women but the majority don't. And Millions of military guys have been overseas and yet. Most come back to the USA And marry AW.
Seems your theory is not reality. Most want someone who has common language and culture.[/QUOTE]I am absolutely no expert and have never even been in the military. But from what I have been told, Military guys get extra money and benefits from the military if they are married to an American woman and have kids with her, and they don't get that same amount of extra money and benefits if they marry a foreign girl who is not a US citizen. It seems it's all about quality of life and free money from the government for housing and other benefits. Bringing a foreign woman to the US is quite difficult and costly. I could be wrong. Maybe someone who knows more about this than I do can provide some insight.
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[QUOTE=Smoothy;1687320]Military guys get money from the military if they are married to an American woman and have kids with her. They don't get that money if they marry a foreign girl. It's all about quality of life and free money from the government for housing and other benefits.[/QUOTE]True, true. I would see a lot of this in Hawaii. A lot of guys were marrying local girls to get the free government money, and they would share it with the girl. They didn't even stay together in most cases. But anytime the guy pissed of the girl (like, trying to hold out on giving her cash) they would threaten to call his commander (blackmail), LOL.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1687051]If foreign women were so attractive to American men and so right for them. Tell me why is it. The majority of service men that go abroad do NOT marry foreign women. Most come back to the states and marry AW. Why is that.
Sure there are some that marry foreign women but the majority don't. And Millions of military guys have been overseas and yet. Most come back to the USA And marry AW.
Seems your theory is not reality. Most want someone who has common language and culture.[/QUOTE]TG, do you have any studies or statistics to back this up? I was in the military (stationed in Korea and Philippines) years ago and didn't marry at all but sure had fun with Koreans and Filipinas I had dated and done the deed with. The Asian girls spoil you compared to the beached whales of America. Most of the military guys I served with had foreign wives and were quite happy with that.
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[QUOTE=DCups;1687378]TG, do you have any studies or statistics to back this up? I was in the military (stationed in Korea and Philippines) years ago and didn't marry at all but sure had fun with Koreans and Filipinas I had dated and done the deed with. The Asian girls spoil you compared to the beached whales of America. Most of the military guys I served with had foreign wives and were quite happy with that.[/QUOTE]Dcup,
Don't think of just the few you knew. I was in the military and stationed overseas. Sure there are guys who marry foreign women. But it definitely is NOT the majority of military guys who get stationed. My question to you. Have you been married, and if so, why not a foreign woman since you were stationed abroad.
I never said the guys didn't enjoy screwing the women just like you did. I'm saying the MAJORITY did NOT marry foreign women.
Statistics would not be available based upon foreign vs AW. Because its against the law for an employer to ask personal questions about a spouse. They can only ask if you are married (Y or N) . They CANNOT ask your wife's citizenship. Period.
Smoothy,
You are partially correct. Military do get paid when they marry. But its to ANYONE. 1st of all they cannot ask what nationality or citizenship is your wife. She does not work for the government, that would be against the law. They can't discriminate. Its the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. Hell soon they will have to recognize gay marriages. Let alone being married to a foreign woman.
They pay more because a military person is married and therefore is providing for a spouse. Period. Same with kids, you get more per kid. Its not based upon your wife's citizenship. After all foreign wives can get a green card automatically once married.
That fact alone shows just how much they DON'T think foreign women are better as wives. Since while most guys are overseas. If they were to marry one. They automatically receive additional pay. They rather wait and marry AW that they are comfortable with than a foreign woman.
At Tell All.
Your response affirms my statement. You are correct. People gravitate towards what they are comfortable with. That is my point. The comfort factor American men have with AW due to the same cultural and language makes them more comfortable to be with.
There will always be a certain percentage of guys who are unhappy with AW and seek elsewhere. Considering there are roughly 100 million men over 18 . If its even 1% that's 1 million. And I doubt there are 1 million American men who go out of the country yearly seeking foreign women.
The percentage (non-business travelers) of Americans that go to the countries you guys consider heaven is so low its not even in the 100 thousands range. This shows. There is no large scale desire on American men part to search other countries for women.
Hell the USA Has one of the [B]lowest percentage[/B] of citizens that travel abroad compared to almost every westernized country. Because we are happy with AW and home.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1687469]
Hell the USA Has one of the [B]lowest percentage[/B] of citizens that travel abroad compared to almost every westernized country. Because we are happy with AW and home.[/QUOTE]Come on TG. I don't take you for an uneducated guy, but even an Ape would realize that last statement is a sweeping generalization if there ever was one. A lot goes into why many people don't travel abroad: their level of income, their comfort level with traveling someplace foreign to them, if they even care about any other country other than America, etc.
To say "we are Happy with the AW and home" , well, you can never miss what you never had (the sweet nectar of foreign beauties) to begin with!
And if you are broke (can't afford to travel for P4P), then you can only do what you can afford (AW's), right?
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1687469]Dcup, Don't think of just the few you knew. I was in the military and stationed overseas. Sure there are guys who marry foreign women. But it definitely is NOT the majority of military guys who get stationed. My question to you. Have you been married, and if so, why not a foreign woman since you were stationed abroad. I'm saying the MAJORITY did NOT marry foreign women.[/QUOTE]TG, I have never been married as I stated in my previous post. Since you have no statistics or studies to cite we will assume that you are just talking out of your ass.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1687469]
They pay more because a military person is married and therefore is providing for a spouse. Period. Same with kids, you get more per kid.[/QUOTE]Strange. My job doesn't pay me any extra if I have a wife and kids.
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[QUOTE=Smoothy;1687534]Strange. My job doesn't pay me any extra if I have a wife and kids.[/QUOTE]Does your job send you to where people are trying to kill you? Shooting at you? Placing IED's on your road to work.
Uncle Sam is waiting. And happy to give you a job.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1687509]Come on TG. I don't take you for an uneducated guy, but even an Ape would realize that last statement is a sweeping generalization if there ever was one. [/QUOTE]SavePros,
You are absolutely correct. I am using the same sweeping generalizations everyone on this thread uses.
Statements like. AW are not sexy like. "fill in the blank" . Or AW attitude is not as good as. "Fill in the blank" .
How did you say it. Even an ape would realize these are sweeping generalizations.
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Although. When it comes to dating. Some guys do pay what I consider outrageous amounts for a date.
Mind you this is a site that auctions off dates. So take it for what its worth. But its only fair to show both sides of the coin.
[QUOTE][B]Single men in DC spend an average of $177 on first date[/B]
How much would you spend on a first shot at love?
According to a new survey by [B]date-auction site WhatsYourPrice.com[/B], single men in Washington, D.C. spend $177 on a first date.
That comes in at #5 on the list!
Reno, Nevada takes the top spot with single men spending $230 on a first date.
At #10, Houston, Texas with single guys spending $143.
Here is the list of Top 10 Most Generous Cities in America:..[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/28196793/single-men-in-dc-spend-an-average-of-177-on-first-date[/URL]#.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1687612][b]Here is the list of Top 10 Most Generous Cities in America:[/b]
[URL]http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/28196793/single-men-in-dc-spend-an-average-of-177-on-first-date[/URL]#.[/QUOTE]Look at how misleading that headline is. Basically telling women "here are the places where suckers will spend gobs of money trying to get into your pants". A woman may see that and say to herself "$177? That's chump change! Once he gets into the $300-$500 range I may consider giving him a kiss on the cheek. ".
You might as well buy a Pick 3 or Pick 5 lotto ticket. At least you have the chance of doubling your money.
I sometimes read in the Sosua forum that absolute stunners are asking for 3000-4000DOP. 4000 pesos is $90 USD. So $90 for a chick that looks like a young Halle Berry and will drain your dick all night vs. $177 on a hope (date) in the US. Hmm....
But again, not all guys are able (blessed) to have the opportunity to travel internationally, so throwing money at an AW until she finally relents (if you can hold her attention for that long) may be their only option.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1687567]Does your job send you to where people are trying to kill you? Shooting at you? Placing IED's on your road to work. Uncle Sam is waiting. And happy to give you a job.[/QUOTE]Don't diss, and don't hate. I did four years in those jobs at 206 k / year. I spent months at a time on my breaks on top of various women throughout the world. But he does point out a gross injustice. As a young sailor, I had to live on the ship while my fellow sailors got housing and extra pay for being married. I thought that was total bullshyt. My only equalizer was learning how those same wives would be banging the neighbors when we went to sea.
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This Guy Gets It
Taken from the Santo Domingo thread. Freakin Story of my life (except for the fiancee part)!
[B]My 2 cents on free pussy
By Durandpaul[/B]
"I went to Ohio for a business trip for 1 month. All I got to brag about are text messages and few dinner dates. Out of the 7 girls who gave me their numbers, only met 2 me outside of the bar on dates. And one of the two came to my hotel and I still didn't bang her because she said she is not that kind of girl. I haven't talked to her for 2 weeks now because I will most likely not go back to Ohio. I probably spent close to $500. For drinks and dates. Sometimes you have to buy a girl a drink to get her number.
Now if I had gone to the DR. I will have been having pussy every night or any time I want.
I am in my early 30's and has P4 P for few years now. Why? Because I love sex and love to try new pussy. I have a fiancee and few side chicks that I keep on my rotation.
But at the end of the day P4 P gives me the ability to get a nut and decide whether I should let the girl go or let her spend the night with me.
I can get free pussy in the USA but I am not patient enough to play that game all the time. You have to entertain women, spend money on dates etc. On average I will say.
I spend 100 on a girl before getting into her pants. Mind that after having sex with a girl, it easier to keep banging her if you are single and has nothing to hide.
I hate P4 P in the USA because its more risky. I don't do streetwalkers, and with Backpage or craigslist you have to worry about pimps and most of the time you will be rushed.
Conclusion: Pussy isn't free. A lawyer or Engineer in the USA can give you free pussy after you take her to nice restaurant and show her you are what she is looking for. I avoid.
Those women because I have a girl already and don't need to impress other women with expensive tastes. I rather hunt the type of girl that lives pay check to pay check. Having a nice house, nice car, and nice hotel room can get you free pussy with a broke girl. It get even better if you can pay her gas sometimes, get her something to eat. I have a girl that I have known for 5 years now. She has two kids, good looking, nice body. And live above her means. Every 3 months she will borrow some money from me. She knows I have a girl but she knows I am probably the only person she can call to borrow $500 to cover her rent. I am like a credit card for her. She always give me back my money and I can stop at her house a bang her anytime I want to. Her kids know me and I even buy them gifts for birthdays. Is it free busy? Some will say yes. But I know its not. We both get something we need. Trust me guys if the locals in the DR had as much money as us those girls won't even be looking at us."
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2229-Santo-Domingo&p=1687638&viewfull=1[/URL]
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1686839]Got plenty of male friends to socialize with and have more fun doing it. If sex is not on the table, I can't see any reason to waste my time hanging out with your so called nice girl.
Remember this while you are hanging out with your nice girl. If she is not fucking you she is fucking someone else. Probably some guy who won't take her shopping and spend hours listening to her bullshit. Someone like me.
That just makes you her chump.[/QUOTE]First Question: By your reasoning, if you are hanging out with someone and not getting sex / blowjob, then you are that person's chump. So, by this same logic, when you hang out with your guy friends and they don't give you sex / blowjob, then you are just their chump, right?
Second Question: Why are you able to have fun with your male friends without having sex with them but unable to have fun with your American female friends without having sex with them? I mean, if you're going to hang out with a friend and not have sex with them, why not just hang out with a nice girl instead of hanging out with some dude?
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AW are annoying to hang out with for the most part. Here is an example. Saturday night I was in the bar in the Latin American country where I currently reside. I live in this bar as well, and fortunately not too many people from the US make their way there. But a fat, fortyish gringa came in and started talking to me. She was with some douche bag guy from Bumfuck KY and she was tráiler trash from MS. She was or is or claimed to be teaching ESL here. So she is talking to me and telling the douche bag to order some food. Like a lot of food and the menú prices here are high by local standards. Then she started doing shots. Finally he left in frustration and she was telling me what a loser he is and how she is pretty sure he wants to fuck her but she is never going to. Then she starts telling me how cute the latino bartender is, then she starts coming on to him and telling him to take his shirt off and shit like that. He was new on the job and it was making him pretty uncomfortable. We start playing checkers and she keeps doing shots and pretty soon she is telling me how much she wants to suck his dick, while also revealing she has three kids by different fathers, has never been married, and is bisexual. I don't give a shit about any of this. The bartender is being only minimally polite to her and is obviously embarrassed. Then she starts telling me she has a university degree in Spanish and there is no fucking way. She was asking me questions about Spanish and then arguing with me and I was like, if you don't think I know what I am talking about why are you asking me? Finally she says something like, "I guess the bartender is not interested. I might have to settle for you. " I told her I did not go with Caucasian women and I think she thought I was kidding. Finally the bar is closing and she gets her tab for like 20 shots that she was ordering for anyone and everyone and the tab was about $50 US and she refused to pay and was saying her friend had already paid most of the bill before he left. I went up to my room at that point and in the morning I realized she had also stolen my lighter which I kindly went up to my room to get even though I don't smoke tobacco.
One of the bartenders here is from a different, neighboring country and has dual citizenship and speaks perfect English and she is cool. I don't know if she is ethnically latina, half and half would be my guess, but she acts like a woman and not like a cheap, disgusting ho.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1687914]First Question: By your reasoning, if you are hanging out with someone and not getting sex / blowjob, then you are that person's chump. So, by this same logic, when you hang out with your guy friends and they don't give you sex / blowjob, then you are just their chump, right?
Second Question: Why are you able to have fun with your male friends without having sex with them but unable to have fun with your American female friends without having sex with them? I mean, if you're going to hang out with a friend and not have sex with them, why not just hang out with a nice girl instead of hanging out with some dude?[/QUOTE]I see you are a little slow so here you go. When I hang out with my guy friends, we have more in common. We have worked together for twenties years. We talk about sports, hunting, fishing and women. I have never had one of them ask me if his pants make him look fat. We have a great time and can speak openly about whatever.
Now let one of them bring his wife or GF to our gathering. The conversations change to what she likes. Deffinately can't talk about women you are banging or anything else for man only.
God help you if she's a feminista.
When it happens I make an excuse to leave early.
When you are out with a women as friemds or whatever, make no mistake that time is all about her. You get there when she wants, talks about what she wants. You are her enertainment until you have spent enough and it is time to meet lover man since you are just dollar man. But don't worry she may introduce you to one of her friends so you can rinse and repeat.
Whole idea of it makes me sick.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1688074]When you are out with a women as friemds or whatever, make no mistake that time is all about her. You get there when she wants, talks about what she wants. You are her enertainment until you have spent enough and it is time to meet lover man since you are just dollar man. But don't worry she may introduce you to one of her friends so you can rinse and repeat.
Whole idea of it makes me sick.[/QUOTE]Spot on, TA. If I didn't have to work them and be neighbors to them I probably wouldn't even talk to them (AWs) except to see if there are any exceptions. One in a while I am pleasantly surprised but usually it is ALL about them and all their petty bullshit.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1688074]When you are out with a women as friemds or whatever, make no mistake that time is all about her. You get there when she wants, talks about what she wants. You are her enertainment until you have spent enough and it is time to meet lover man since you are just dollar man. But don't worry she may introduce you to one of her friends so you can rinse and repeat. Whole idea of it makes me sick.[/QUOTE]This is pretty much what I found when I was in the "normal" dating game. It was all about them, and they would sit there and do the things that women accuse men of doing, like attempting to dominate the conversation and talking about nothing other than themselves. Sitting there judging my "worthiness" to spend time with them. I remember stopping at least two conversations and asking in the middle of the date, "Is this a date or an interrogation"? Boy did that shock and get them to change their tone! I don't know if they even realized how they were coming off, and both appeared to be embarrassed after how I challenged their behavior. Now, I'm not about to kiss any woman's ass just to be with her. Not interested when I'm out here fucking attractive young ladies all over the globe. I go to work and pay the few bills I have and save money for the future. And I still have enough left over to travel to distant lands and get my dingus serviced by hot, young, foreign women. No, it's these AW who can kiss my ass is what! Legalized prostitution in safe, clean environments makes it extremely easy to remain a single man. At least for me it does. And I gather the same is true for many of you guys too. I love how AW have zero grip on me. You see, I don't need them. Because I'm already steady getting some. Damn it, it feels great too doesn't it you guys like me? Like gaining energy independence from Middle East oil LOL!
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1687567]Does your job send you to where people are trying to kill you? Shooting at you? Placing IED's on your road to work.
Uncle Sam is waiting. And happy to give you a job.[/QUOTE]Yes, that happens to some. But less than 50% of enlisted military. My best friend from high school just retired from the military after 25 years. Never once did he have any combat duty nor was he stationed in an area of danger. I do believe that if the guy gets killed or injured, the Government should fork over the money to support him and his wife and kids. But why give extra money for the wife and kids regardless? I don't see the logic.
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[QUOTE=Smoothy;1688372]Yes, that happens to some. But less than 50% of enlisted military. My best friend from high school just retired from the military after 25 years. Never once did he have any combat duty nor was he stationed in an area of danger. I do believe that if the guy gets killed or injured, the Government should fork over the money to support him and his wife and kids. But why give extra money for the wife and kids regardless? I don't see the logic.[/QUOTE]The man already explained it. It takes more money to raise a family than to be a single guy who has nothing to do but buy video games and the US government recognizes that. The same thing is reflected in the US tax code. You pay more taxes if you are single with no kids than anyone else.
My last year of high school I worked at McDonald's for one month making $3.35/hour. That was the minimum wage back in 1989. When I went to the Navy as an enlisted guy I made $669/month which if figured at 40 hours / week is $4.18/hour. I guess it was okay for a single guy living on base with no rent who ate in the mess hall and only needed money for CDS and partying. If you live off base they give you an extra stipend for rent and even more for food. If you have dependents in the form of a wife and children then you get even more for that.
Both my cousin and his wife were in the military getting extra money for having a spouse. Actually I think that is the only reason they got married. Even when they broke up they did not get divorced so both could still get the extra money. Back then the SGLI insurance policy was $100,000 if you die. That would not support a wife and kids for too long.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1687612]Although. When it comes to dating. Some guys do pay what I consider outrageous amounts for a date.[/QUOTE]And whose fucking fault is that besides the guys'? Over and over in these forums I see guys going to third world countries and saying you are the one with the money so you make the rules. Are these same guys not following their own advice when they are back home? Or is it that they feel they can not be in charge when a woman is on their same economic level?
What is wrong with meeting a chick and asking her out for coffee or tea, or inviting her to a home-cooked meal, or even asking her to cook for you? In my city they have free concerts in the park during the summer as well. Hell, I even meet chicks and ask them when they are taking me out. Some chicks will even admit that they can not afford it. I tell them that it does not have to be anything big. I am a simple guy and for me it's the thought that counts and shows that you are interested in me.
Open your mouth and start being a leader and thinking outside of the box. You don't have to do the cliched dinner and movie. Or do you think you are going to miss out on some pussy if you try that? The thing is that you will never get any if you are scared to miss out on some. I'll invite a chick over and throw on some jazz; make some strong ass frozen caipirinhas in the blender, break out those chocolate covered strawberries that I made earlier and pretty soon it is stroke time. Every now and then if you meet a chick and she does not want to go along with your program then there is a guy from my city who made a song for that: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M37HHf099oM[/URL].
Women come a dime a dozen. I can go out right now and get six phone numbers, but I will be the first to admit that I can't afford to spend $177 on each one of those ladies for a first date.
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Advice to SavePros321: Try to make up with your wife
Two things,
I was married once to a lovely and faithful girl. When we first went out, we were totally into each other and it was like a romantic fairy tale. However after our first date, she was pressured into going out on a date with someone else, and she gave in. It was only a friendly date without even a kiss on the cheek and after this one date she dropped it.
After we were an item I found out about this from her and I was upset and a bit shocked. She tried to explain and I eventually dropped it. What I can tell you is that during the 9 years we were together she was incredibly faithful and devoted to me. One of the main reasons the marriage fell apart was because I was not faithful to her and have always wanted to sleep with other women. So give your wife a chance, it was long in the past.
Another thing, I am saying this to help you and not upset you, if you are upset by my following observations, which may be inaccurate, I apologize. It sounds like you were a bit jealous of your old roommate, and the thing you liked in those days about your current wife is that she did not fall for your roommate, so this was your victory over him, finally after watching him take the prize again and again. So when you found out they were together at some point, this is what really upset you and hurt your ego.
If you really love your wife and want to make it work out, forget about it, if you do not you will wreck your marriage.
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[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;1688567]Two things,
I was married once to a lovely and faithful girl. When we first went out, we were totally into each other and it was like a romantic fairy tale. However after our first date, she was pressured into going out on a date with someone else, and she gave in. It was only a friendly date without even a kiss on the cheek and after this one date she dropped it.
After we were an item I found out about this from her and I was upset and a bit shocked. She tried to explain and I eventually dropped it. What I can tell you is that during the 9 years we were together she was incredibly faithful and devoted to me. One of the main reasons the marriage fell apart was because I was not faithful to her and have always wanted to sleep with other women. So give your wife a chance, it was long in the past.
Another thing, I am saying this to help you and not upset you, if you are upset by my following observations, which may be inaccurate, I apologize. It sounds like you were a bit jealous of your old roommate, and the thing you liked in those days about your current wife is that she did not fall for your roommate, so this was your victory over him, finally after watching him take the prize again and again. So when you found out they were together at some point, this is what really upset you and hurt your ego.
If you really love your wife and want to make it work out, forget about it, if you do not you will wreck your marriage.[/QUOTE]Yes you should forget all about her sucking his Dick while telling you with the same mouth how much she couldn't stand him.
Dude if that woman is not fucking someone else on the side right now, I would be shocked.
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[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;1688567]Two things,
If you really love your wife and want to make it work out, forget about it, if you do not you will wreck your marriage.[/QUOTE]I have never been married, never plan to.
How the hell can people not tell that the post I made was something I took from another site? Fuck, I even put it in quotation marks and added the link to the original post at the end of it! Fuck, I even added
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To separate what I had to say from the actual article!!!
Indigo, why not click the link to the original post on Reddit (I placed it at the end of the article post that I added quotations around) and post the same advice to the poor guy who actually needed it, lol.
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AM who are AW haters mainly are.
Guys who have been burnt from a marriage, scorned by a woman. Mad because of something they asked the woman to do. She didn't ask them to marry. They did it. And when they left and not they mad because of the 50/50 split at divorce. Which has been that way since man has been getting divorced, so its not like any man can say. "I didn't know" . But they blame the woman for the resentment of their mistake. So they hate all AW.
Or.
Guys who think a woman should drop the panties pretty much after the guy says "Hello" . Their attitude is why should she need to get to know each other. She should drop the panties, after a 20 min conversation and however long it takes to find a place to fuck. She should want to fuck at least the second meeting.
But since AW for the most part have the ability to support themselves, have financial independence, it gives them a greater feeling of self worth. They don't have to settle for just any dick w / a steady paycheck. They can afford to pick and choose. This means some guys end up rejected, and some guys more than others. Resentment sets in. These poor rejected misfits of society. Many start writing on forums about how AW are no good.
These guys attitudes has nothing to do with P4 P. Because there are many guys who do P4 P abroad and still appreciate AW. But the number of AM who hate all AW. I say is a small percentage of the American male population. And the problem says more about the guys than the women. IMHO of course.
TG865 . The Global professor of all things male.
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A wise man once said, "You can't watch your wife and your outside woman, too."
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1688600]I have never been married, never plan to.
How the hell can people not tell that the post I made was something I took from another site? Fuck, I even put it in quotation marks and added the link to the original post at the end of it! Fuck, I even added
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To separate what I had to say from the actual article!!!
Indigo, why not click the link to the original post on Reddit (I placed it at the end of the article post that I added quotations around) and post the same advice to the poor guy who actually needed it, lol.[/QUOTE]I knew it wasn't you. I said say it ain't so SavePro, say it ain't so. LOL.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1688702]AM who are AW haters mainly are guys who have been burnt from a marriage or guys who think a woman should drop the panties pretty much after the guy says "Hello" .
TG865 . The Global professor of all things male.[/QUOTE]Neither one of those categories applies to me. Also, I don't spend my time "hating" AW. All hating does is lead to your own self-destruction and demise. It's just that when it comes to romance and sexual encounters, I simply don't deal with or pursue AW anymore. I've found another kind of lifestyle arrangement that works better for me and that makes me happy. I love the travel and the adventure and the sex. You're such an apologist for AW that your handle ought to be "That Girl". But hey, I don't hate. I fornicate!
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1688074]I see you are a little slow so here you go. When I hang out with my guy friends, we have more in common. We have worked together for twenties years. We talk about sports, hunting, fishing and women. I have never had one of them ask me if his pants make him look fat. We have a great time and can speak openly about whatever.
When you are out with a women as friemds or whatever, make no mistake that time is all about her. You get there when she wants, talks about what she wants.
Whole idea of it makes me sick.[/QUOTE]Hehe, thanks for explaining it real slow like to me. LOL.
You are lucky TellAll that you enjoy hanging out with your Man-Friends so much. Me, I don't much care for sports, hunting, and fishing.
I'm sorry that the AW in your part of the country are so horrible and terrible that you derive no enjoyment from spending time with them if they're not sexing you up. Things must be pretty bad in your area of the country I guess.
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[QUOTE=Smoothy;1688372]Yes, that happens to some. But less than 50% of enlisted military. My best friend from high school just retired from the military after 25 years. Never once did he have any combat duty nor was he stationed in an area of danger. I do believe that if the guy gets killed or injured, the Government should fork over the money to support him and his wife and kids. But why give extra money for the wife and kids regardless? I don't see the logic.[/QUOTE]You want the reasoning or logic behind it talk to the people who established the rules. You can call your closest Military Recruitment office.
You don't like the pay structure. Don't join. If you like it. Join. Either way. It is the way it is.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1688702]AM who are AW haters mainly are.
Guys who have been burnt from a marriage, scorned by a woman. Mad because of something they asked the woman to do. She didn't ask them to marry. They did it. And when they left and not they mad because of the 50/50 split at divorce. Which has been that way since man has been getting divorced, so its not like any man can say. "I didn't know" . But they blame the woman for the resentment of their mistake. So they hate all AW.
Or.
Guys who think a woman should drop the panties pretty much after the guy says "Hello" . Their attitude is why should she need to get to know each other. She should drop the panties, after a 20 min conversation and however long it takes to find a place to fuck. She should want to fuck at least the second meeting.
But since AW for the most part have the ability to support themselves, have financial independence, it gives them a greater feeling of self worth. They don't have to settle for just any dick w / a steady paycheck. They can afford to pick and choose. This means some guys end up rejected, and some guys more than others. Resentment sets in. These poor rejected misfits of society. Many start writing on forums about how AW are no good.
These guys attitudes has nothing to do with P4 P. Because there are many guys who do P4 P abroad and still appreciate AW. But the number of AM who hate all AW. I say is a small percentage of the American male population. And the problem says more about the guys than the women. IMHO of course.
TG865 . The Global professor of all things male.[/QUOTE]Yes I think a woman should drop her panties within 20 minutes of meeting her, 5 minutes actually. And it is because these women go to clubs and pick out the guys they want approach and instantly have sex with guys. Or they get approached by the guy they are attracted to and within 5 minutes are getting fucked in a dirty bathroom with no condom. Now you want me to approach this girl and not do the same? You want me to spend hundreds of dollars on dinner dates with this girl, be a gentleman and wait for her to allow me to please her. Naw son. These girls are not worth that, I treat women the way they act. I am a man and have self-respect and dignity. Similar to the way The Cane feels, if you go out with these women it is an opportunity for them to interview you for the position of her personal ass kisser. She wants to know whether you are up to her standards. In 2015 the dynamic is simple; either she wants your dick or your wallet. And if she wants your dick, sorry to hurt your feelings and shatter your delusions about the sanctity of the female character, but she is not going to make you wait more than 20 minutes. Conversely if she wants your wallet she will postpone sex as long as possible. She will let you die before fucking you if you allow her, all the while taking your money for the last 50 years. This is the true nature of women forged by 300,000 years of evolution and nothing TG865 can write on this forum will ever change that. This does not mean AW are bad people. They are merely animals, and as animals they follow their preset biological impulses. We just saw SavePro321 post an example of this. A guy hated his roommate and finds a girl he liked that shared his opinion. He becomes enamored with her, and then proceeds to wine and dine her. Meanwhile his room who not only does not spend a dime on her, not only does not have to leave his couch, he does not even turn the fucking PlayStation off while busting fat loads down her throat and on her face. The husband probably had not even had sex with his future wife yet while the other guy was using her up. What AW women do is their business; however do not expect me to go chasing after them throwing my money to be jerked around instead of off. To do so would mean to disrespect myself as a man. BTW if you are " The Global professor of all things male" then god help us all. And I have already been given the title of professor on this forum by SP LOL.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1688816]Hehe, thanks for explaining it real slow like to me. LOL.
You are lucky TellAll that you enjoy hanging out with your Man-Friends so much. Me, I don't much care for sports, hunting, and fishing.
I'm sorry that the AW in your part of the country are so horrible and terrible that you derive no enjoyment from spending time with them if they're not sexing you up. Things must be pretty bad in your area of the country I guess.[/QUOTE]Oh don't worry to much about me. I wouldn't know what the women are like in my part of the country because I'm in Asia. When I leave here next month, I'm headed to South America. I'm seldom in my part of the country anymore.
A man that doesn't like sports, hunting or fishing. Yes I think you're better off hanging with women in the USA.
You can talk about food. By the look of there fat asses, they know a lot about that.
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Briffault's Law
[URL]http://www.stickmanweekly.com/ReadersSubmissions2009/reader5546.htm[/URL]
"So, let's get to Korski's question, "Who is a hoar", and my initial response, "They all are". By Briffault's Law if a woman is associating with you (assuming you are a man) then she is doing it because she sees some benefit, either current, or in the future, from that association. How is this different from the bargirl on Soi Cowboy? I think only in the duration of the intended association, the amount of benefit expected, and in the woman's acceptance of delay in getting that benefit. Guys, let's get real about this. It is past time to take off the rose colored glasses.
How does this help? If you know going in that she is there to derive a benefit, then make sure you are willing and able to provide that benefit, that you are willing and able to continue to provide that benefit, and that the cost to you of providing that benefit is worth the benefit you derive from the association. Be fully aware that when the benefit to her stops, the relationship will stop. Have no illusions. This is true in the UK, France, America, Thailand, and everywhere else. So, if you spend every dime in your retirement fund to build her and / or her mother a house (in her name of course), do not expect that the association will continue. You must say no early and often so you preserve your ability to provide a continuing benefit. If you drain all your resources, then you get what you should expect (see corollary 1).
Keep control of your money, only you will be responsible with it, because you had to earn it. After my first divorce I commiserated with a female secretary that was at least two decades older than me, and who was herself divorced. When I told her that I had let my wife run the family finances (common in 80% of married couples in the USA), and that she had run us deep into debt, she told me, "Any man that turns over his paycheck to a woman is a fool. " I would add that giving any woman every penny you have in the world is just asking her to kick you to the curb and walk away from you.
Deriving mutual benefits from a relationship is not a bad thing. Where Brokenman and the rest of us men lose the plot is when we expect past benefit provided to the woman to continue generating current or future association (see corollary 1). Loyalty, honor, gratitude, and duty are male values that we men project on women, but which very few, to no, women actually possess. We aren't born with these values; they are drummed into us from the cradle on by society / culture, our families, and most definitely by the women in our lives (sorry, but that includes you too, Mom). Women get different indoctrination, so they have different values; mostly, for a woman, whatever is good for her and her (biological) children is what is best, full stop. So, do not expect that the woman in your life will be grateful, and sacrifice for you, when you can no longer provide for her and hers. And make no mistake, you have never been, and never will be, part of what is hers. What are hers will be first herself, then her (biological) children, then her parents, then her siblings, and then the rest of her blood relatives. The biological imperative has always been to extend her blood line. It stops there, and it always will. This is true everywhere in the world. Get over it.
Men love women, but I truly believe that women are incapable of what we men call love. "Greater love hath no man than that he lay down his life for his friends. " How many women are willing to die for their husbands, friends, country, or comrades in arms? Damn few, if any. Yet it is commonly expected of men (made compulsory under certain circumstances). How many men continue on in their marriages, supporting their family and their wife, while the wife is making their life a living hell? Far too many. How many men choose their wives over their parents and siblings? Most. Women do not behave like this. Men take out large insurance policies so their wives and children will be well taken care of should they die. Even if the wife is making (nearly) as much money as the husband, she will not have insurance. She sees no reason to reduce her current ability to spend to take care of others after she is dead. She could care less what happens to the husband, and doesn't want the husband to be able to spend money on some young bimbo, after she dies. The life insurance gender statistics are well known, and widely available. None of this should be a shocking revelation. When my second wife died, her mandatory insurance (free) provided by her teacher's union covered her funeral expenses. It would have made life much easier if her insurance had paid the over $350,000 my life insurance would have paid.
When does the expectation of mutual benefit in marriage go seriously wrong in the west? It goes wrong as soon as the "I Dos" are said, or very shortly thereafter. Why is this so? Because you, the man have just entered into a contract with the state where you have promised that you will provide everything to your bride, and where the bride has promised nothing. By the way, the full weight of the law and public opinion will support her stripping you of every thing you have, including your children, and most of what you will ever make in the future, when (not if) she decides to dump you. Hence, once you enter into the contract you have nothing left to offer her. Everything you have, or will have, is already hers. Seem like a harsh statement? I thought so too, the first time I heard it, during an argument with my first wife towards the end of our marriage. She asked me the eternal female question, "What do you do for me?" (I. E. What benefit do I get from associating with you?) I responded, "I pay all your expenses. I feed, clothe, and house you. And, I am paying for your college tuition. " She told me that all the money I earned was her money and that if she let me have any of it that was pure charity on her part, so I was doing nothing for her. I thought this was unduly harsh. The divorce courts showed me that it was pretty much just a statement of fact. The wife has it all, and can make her part of the marriage contract, the portion where she is to provide you with companionship, comfort, loyalty, sex, etc. , null and void at any time while keeping everything you have / had / will ever have. She has no need to associate with you further once you are married (see corollary 2). (What is the difference between regular Barbie doll and divorced Barbie doll? Divorced Barbie comes with her stuff and all of Ken's stuff too.) This seems a totally destructive state of affairs. Recently many in the western nations have been up in arms over a law passed in, I believe, Saudi Arabia that said if a married woman refuses her husband sex, then he can refuse to feed her. All are screaming it is Islamic misogyny. Seems to me, it is an equal degree of enforcement for both sides of a contract.
Presenting Briffault's Law is a duty I felt I owed to the readership, as a public service. We all need to take off the blinders. You will get from women exactly what you should expect; if you keep Briffault's Law (and my corollaries) in mind. Knowing this earlier in life would have saved me a lot of pain. I hope it helps some of you out there keep a hand on the reins. All of us, men and women, will be happier if men take charge of their relationships and their finances. ".
BRIFFAULT'S LAW:
The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.
[URL]http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Briffault[/URL]
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Monday Morning Self Check
Guys, as you go about your day / week, be sure to evaluate all of your female coworker (or classmate) "friends" connections and ensure that you are not just wasting your time by "Orbiting":
[B]Orbiter[/B] - Also known as Beta Orbiter. A beta guy who accepted the proposal to "just be friends" from a girl he has oneitis for. He will stick around her and constantly validate her whenever she requests it. Also known as "friendzone. " She will keep him around because he will do anything for her and provide validation, giving small hints that he might eventually win her love- but he never will. Typical signs of orbiter status: likes and comments on new facebook photos. Go-to guy when girl has problem with boyfriend. Also known as emotional tampon.
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TG is no doubt a Master Orbiter, as well as a Master Beta, hahaha.
[URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/17xmry/acronym_and_glossary_thread/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1689057]Guys, as you go about your day / week, be sure to evaluate all of your female coworker (or classmate) "friends" connections and ensure that you are not just wasting your time by "Orbiting":
[B]Orbiter[/B] - Also known as Beta Orbiter. A beta guy who accepted the proposal to "just be friends" from a girl he has oneitis for. He will stick around her and constantly validate her whenever she requests it. Also known as "friendzone. " She will keep him around because he will do anything for her and provide validation, giving small hints that he might eventually win her love- but he never will. Typical signs of orbiter status: likes and comments on new facebook photos. Go-to guy when girl has problem with boyfriend. Also known as emotional tampon.
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TG is no doubt a Master Orbiter, as well as a Master Beta, hahaha.
[URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/17xmry/acronym_and_glossary_thread/[/URL][/QUOTE]SavePros. Your post make me laugh. And for that I thank you. Have a great day.
TG865 . "Global professor of all things male".
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Just had a view of TV's sexiest videos countdown on CW. Of course they are broadcast all over the world EXCEPT the USA. Of course they all glorified the MAN as a fucking MAN.
I found my fav on YT. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePz1grQf8RA[/URL].
We have so many grandmas working on airlines now that this commercial would be seriously protested by them and all the rest of Americas thundering herd - (AKA the average AW). Have fun seeing what will never be seen or done in America.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1694140]Just had a view of TV's sexiest videos countdown on CW. Of course they are broadcast all over the world EXCEPT the USA. Of course they all glorified the MAN as a fucking MAN.
I found my fav on YT. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePz1grQf8RA[/URL].
We have so many grandmas working on airlines now that this commercial would be seriously protested by them and all the rest of Americas thundering herd - (AKA the average AW). Have fun seeing what will never be seen or done in America.[/QUOTE]No won't see that in the USA. I still remember when they banned the Go Daddy commercials from the Superbowl.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1694140]
We have so many grandmas working on airlines now that this commercial would be seriously protested by them and all the rest of Americas thundering herd - (AKA the average AW). Have fun seeing what will never be seen or done in America.[/QUOTE]I know what you mean. Go to Thailand and fly Nok Air. Man, you will see some stunning flight attendants -- all young and gorgeous. They even do a calendar of them.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1694140]Just had a view of TV's sexiest videos countdown on CW. Of course they are broadcast all over the world EXCEPT the USA. Of course they all glorified the MAN as a fucking MAN.
I found my fav on YT. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePz1grQf8RA[/URL].
We have so many grandmas working on airlines now that this commercial would be seriously protested by them and all the rest of Americas thundering herd - (AKA the average AW). Have fun seeing what will never be seen or done in America.[/QUOTE]Not that anyone cares, but the song in the video, I've only known it from the Drum and Bass version. It is called "From Bath with Love" by Danny Byrd. So random that I would hear it anywhere outside of the DnB arena, LOL:
If you've got any kind of quality sound system, this song really kicks. They'll hear you coming from a mile away!
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVx8NJOYhQI[/URL]
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Everything grows big in Texas
Just got back in the USA last night. A large herd of AW buffalo everywhere I Looked.
Went to a Restaurant today and saw hogs everywhere.
Why did all these women let themselves get so f'king fat?
Is it the culture of the American Man now that he likes them big? If so how did I miss the culture shift?
Damn.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1701969]Just got back in the USA last night. A large herd of AW buffalo everywhere I Looked. Went to a Restaurant today and saw hogs everywhere.[/QUOTE]Did you take you one home? When we were in the taxi Sunday night we saw you on the motorbike making that left off 3rd Road on to Pattaya Klang.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1701976]Did you take you one home? When we were in the taxi Sunday night we saw you on the motorbike making that left off 3rd Road on to Pattaya Klang.[/QUOTE]I left the day after you did. Should have put a hottie in my suitcase, but I'll be in Latin America in Two weeks so I should be alright.
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Why American women are so fat
[QUOTE=TellAll;1701969]Just got back in the USA last night. A large herd of AW buffalo everywhere I Looked.
Went to a Restaurant today and saw hogs everywhere.
Why did all these women let themselves get so f'king fat?
Is it the culture of the American Man now that he likes them big? If so how did I miss the culture shift?
Damn[/QUOTE]It's caused by the car and food culture. People don't walk, they drive everywhere. The cities aren't even built for walking. No sidewalks, just roads and distant strip malls. They tend to have sedentary jobs instead of physical jobs. Then they eat lots of cheap high calorie foods. End result? Rampant obesity. In poorer countries there are lots of people with no cars who walk everywhere, do physical labor, and don't have as much food to eat.
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[QUOTE=ItsMyPiv;1702147]It's caused by the car and food culture. People don't walk, they drive everywhere. The cities aren't even built for walking. No sidewalks, just roads and distant strip malls. They tend to have sedentary jobs instead of physical jobs. Then they eat lots of cheap high calorie foods. End result? Rampant obesity. In poorer countries there are lots of people with no cars who walk everywhere, do physical labor, and don't have as much food to eat.[/QUOTE]Yes, no one moves in this county and couple that with the god-awful food here, it's surprising that people aren't even fatter and unhealthier than they already are.
I've always been the healthiest and in best shape when I was living overseas. The more time I spent abroad, the better health I was in. Looking back, I've always had some sort of (usually, minor) health problem when I'm here in America. Only time I've been hospitalized was here in the US. This place is just bad for you; like a pack of cigarettes, there should be a health warning stamped into your passport everytime you enter this country.
This place is just good for making money, that's it. Just use America like an ATM machine and get out every chance you can get.
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Modern American Woman
[URL]http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh2379cacJQV1Offrq[/URL]
What do you all think of the psychology of the modern American female, such as the one in the video? With all the advantages given to women today, this women still believes she deserves a seat simply because she is female. This is the type of woman that would make a guy go through hell just to sleep with her. In her mind she is special because of her gender, she is the type of woman I do not want to have sex with. Here are two opposing comments from the website.
Quote by: letsberealtea.
"That's what we call equality.
If you got there earlier like the men did, you would have got a seat, but because you are a woman, you think a stranger has to give something up for you? That's not the real world.
Most women don't act in a way that deserves respect these days. ".
Quote by: Unbiased_Vanity.
"The majority of the Black men, or any man, spewing negativity and hate to the black female, don't even understand the psychology of her. So instead of taking the time to learn about your woman and what captures the essence of her spirit, you shun her. You make her feel as if she is beneath you, as if she is undeserving, as if she is the problem when in truth, the Black female is the only flower that flourish without water. Without nourishment. She has been since the beginning of Ancient Kemet. Since the beginning of time. She is strong-willed and hard-loving.
Even though that love isn't returned. The problem is not IN her, it is the portrayal OF her.
Be thankful for the Black woman because truly, no one deserves her. ".
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[QUOTE=ItsMyPiv;1702147]It's caused by the car and food culture. People don't walk, they drive everywhere. The cities aren't even built for walking. No sidewalks, just roads and distant strip malls. They tend to have sedentary jobs instead of physical jobs. Then they eat lots of cheap high calorie foods. End result? Rampant obesity. In poorer countries there are lots of people with no cars who walk everywhere, do physical labor, and don't have as much food to eat.[/QUOTE]I have lived in quite a few US cities and all have had sidewalks. Can you give an example of a US city with no sidewalks? I'd like to be sure to avoid it. And, it is caused by them not giving a shit. People in poor countries eat even more cheap, high calorie foods. Trust me on that one.
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[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1702709][URL]http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh2379cacJQV1Offrq[/URL]
What do you all think of the psychology of the modern American female, such as the one in the video? With all the advantages given to women today, this women still believes she deserves a seat simply because she is female. This is the type of woman that would make a guy go through hell just to sleep with her. In her mind she is special because of her gender, she is the type of woman I do not want to have sex with.
[/QUOTE]This is the psychology of the American Women:
We are the American Women!
You will be assimilated.
Your mental, physical and financial distinctiveness will be added to our own.
You will adapt to serve us.
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!
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Yet there is hope!
[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1702709][URL]http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh2379cacJQV1Offrq[/URL]
What do you all think of the psychology of the modern American female, such as the one in the video? With all the advantages given to women today, this women still believes she deserves a seat simply because she is female. This is the type of woman that would make a guy go through hell just to sleep with her. In her mind she is special because of her gender, she is the type of woman I do not want to have sex with.[/QUOTE]Just read the comments section at that video link. Men get it and are calling women on their bullshit (asking for "equality" yet wanting special treatment. Can't have it both ways miss).
If we don't give a fuck, then this next generation of dudes coming up behind us REALLY don't give a fuck. It's actually kind of scary:
(This song is a hit song in the U.S., by the way. This isn't even the official music video to this song and it as 8 million+ views!)
[b]I Don't Fuck With you - Big Sean[/b]
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14K6KtBlusY[/url]
"I don't fuck with you
You little stupid ass *****, I ain't fuckin' with you
You little, you little dumb ass *****, I ain't fuckin' with you
I got a million trillion things I'd rather fuckin' do
Than to be fuckin' with you
Little stupid ass, I don't give a fuck, I don't give a fuck
I don't I don't I don't give a fuck
***** I don't give a fuck about you or anything that you do
Don't give a fuck about you or anything that you do"
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"actress"
Great movie I saw on netflix streaming last night. Its a semi documentary on a 40 year old retired actress who achieved moderate success who wants to get back in
the business to allow herself some control over her life. This starts out about a couple who moved north of NYC to raise a family. The "boyfriend"/ father of her two
small children has to spend all his time running a bar / restaurant to pay for all the expenses of life including a home while she laments the lack of excitement/romance
"ACTION" in her current situation. However; it appears she took the retirement/family route as her career was petering out. The father dutifully moves out when he
finds out about her exciting affair supporting two households and still willingly pays for everything. No movement at all on her part to ever make the father of her kids
happy just a 100% push to capture old glories. Hmmm somehow one must think she had alot to do with her dull life in suburbia. Of course near the end we find her
sitting with a black eye not caused by either the current lover or boyfriend but just falling down on the streets of Manhattan dead drunk.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1702714]I have lived in quite a few US cities and all have had sidewalks. Can you give an example of a US city with no sidewalks? I'd like to be sure to avoid it. And, it is caused by them not giving a shit. People in poor countries eat even more cheap, high calorie foods. Trust me on that one.[/QUOTE]A lot of the newer suburban areas outside of the older city cores don't have sidewalks on every road. In suburbs everything is also spread out, and stores located in big centralized malls or plazas.
As far as food goes, Americans probably eat more processed foods and restaurant foods, which tend to be loaded with fat, salt and sugar. Poorer people in poorer countries seem to eat more home cooked food, and cheap food cooked on the street.
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Will be banned
Ok this commercial was released on the 14th to TV. CW channel of course, not prime time network. I predict feminazis will have the ad pulled within a week (if they can find it). Just enough time to create a buzz and interest in women who could give a shit. Madison Ave has this stuff down to NASA style science.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiHpibGYrew[/URL]
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The Difference of American women
It really is much simpler than you think and really comes down to this.
If you get a hard dick while talking to a woman and you show it bulging through your pants in most of the world, the lady will know it needs to be drained. She understands exactly and is under no illusions.
As long as she likes you she will drain the leche.
In USA show that to a woman, and they will be offended or tell you, you have to work harder to get her.
Sometimes they will run!
I'll choose option A!
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Crazy is the Norm
This video creeped me out when I watched it.
[URL]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/21/warren-sapp-arrest-video-freak-out_n_7110562.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592[/URL]
It seems in America you are damned no matter what you do with American women. If you pay for it you could in up like Warren in the video. The thought of going to jail because of paying for pussy scares me to death, and seeing Warren realize his predicament was visceral for me. I felt like I was there and it was happening to me. I am glad I have my fun outside of the United States. But for many guys today paying for sex is the best route to pursue to have a sexual encounter with a woman. And I am not even talking about ugly guys, average guys get passed over frequently in "Sex Prison". It has been said that male sexuality is one man attracted to many woman. While female sexuality is many women attracted to one male. I think in 2015 woman want to top 15 percent of men, and if you are not that then fuck off. I think because there is no scarcity of men due to war, and ratio of men to woman is exactly equal (age 15-64): women select based off of primal attraction. I think about how many female teachers get caught having sex with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] male students. Most adult men would probably say they would have loved to fuck a hot teacher as a junior or senior in high school. But what if the teacher was the ugliest female you could imagine, the male would surely want the woman to go to jail for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] then. That is how I believe woman perceive men outside of the top 15 percent. If a hot guy comes up to a girl taking game, demeaning her and tugging on her ass a little, she wants to fuck him right there. If an average guy in the top 65 percent does the same she will scream are greatAPE. But even if you do have sex for "free", there are false are greatAPE claims everywhere against men now. In 2015 you need a signed legal contract, a notary, a witness present during the act, and video to have sex in America. Could someone please tell me what the fuck is going on.
[URL]http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/05/media/rolling-stone-uva-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]-article-columbia-probe/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1710645]It seems in America you are damned no matter what you do with American women. If you pay for it you could in up like Warren in the video. The thought of going to jail because of paying for pussy scares me to death, and seeing Warren realize his predicament was visceral for me. I felt like I was there and it was happening to me. I am glad I have my fun outside of the United States. But for many guys today paying for sex is the best route to pursue to have a sexual encounter with a woman.[/QUOTE]Why pay for it in America? Women are sexually liberated, independent, educated, and successful now. They should give it up for free and pay for the date too.
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[QUOTE=ItsMyPiv;1711132]Why pay for it in America? Women are sexually liberated, independent, educated, and successful now. They should give it up for free and pay for the date too.[/QUOTE]What have you been smoking? American women want all the rights of men and all the extra priviledges that they are acustomed to.
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What they SHOULD do and what they DO are two different things. I stopped dating AWs five years ago. They are too much a pain in the ass. I save it all for foreign beauties in Asia and Carribean.
[QUOTE=ItsMyPiv;1711132]Why pay for it in America? Women are sexually liberated, independent, educated, and successful now. They should give it up for free and pay for the date too.[/QUOTE].
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The Photos
Here are the photos of the two woman that got Warren in trouble.
[URL]http://www.tmz.com/2015/04/21/warren-sapps-escorts-he-tackled-us-after-naked-altercation/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1711812]Here are the photos of the two woman that got Warren in trouble.
[URL]http://www.tmz.com/2015/04/21/warren-sapps-escorts-he-tackled-us-after-naked-altercation/[/URL][/QUOTE]Should have just paid the money. Why do men always put what they have worked for all their lives at risk with women that have nothing to lose? Very poor judgement.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1711835]Should have just paid the money. Why do men always put what they have worked for all their lives at risk with women that have nothing to lose? Very poor judgement.[/QUOTE]In the eighties, when there was no internet, as a young man in the military, during my leave period I always went the phuck home to see the fam (Mom, Dad and the dog). Iwas to stupid and I had no idea about going to Brazil, Phils or just about anywhere in the world to bang my brains out, and get drunk all night. Sorry Sapp, but in this internet information overload age, even your bankrupt child support paying ass should have known to go to ANOTHER COUNTRY to do your dirt. Don't those millionaire ball players talk amongst themselves about what's out there. Don't need brains to be 300 lbs. And knock a guy on his ass.
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Warren Sapps' lady friends
[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1711812]Here are the photos of the two woman that got Warren in trouble.
[URL]http://www.tmz.com/2015/04/21/warren-sapps-escorts-he-tackled-us-after-naked-altercation/[/URL][/QUOTE]The one on the left looks like too many drugs. The one on the right, with the chubby face, looks healthier. Of course, I don't know what their bodies look like. Maybe they should've taken body photos as well, from the front, back, and side.
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[QUOTE=ItsMyPiv;1712590]The one on the left looks like too many drugs. The one on the right, with the chubby face, looks healthier. Of course, I don't know what their bodies look like. Maybe they should've taken body photos as well, from the front, back, and side.[/QUOTE]Yeah, American view on working girls reduced the provider class to low and none. Only junkies asking for way too much $$. With terrible, rushed service. Be nice to get back in the game and give little to nothing to a grateful Pinay. Here in the Emerald city, the new policy is to bust the john and let the girl go, sigh.
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The difference between single girls at 29 and single girls at 31
I understand from a very reliable source (a woman who is both of these ages at once) that this song's high levels of accuracy may result in irritable bawling syndrome and spontaneous consumption of comfort food.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-gfxjAaZg0[/URL]
Reading the comments on that youtube video almost made me think I was reading an ISG thread for a moment!
Enjoy!
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Women are using Tinder to get men to send them free pizza
"Imagine you started having a bit of banter with someone quite fit on Tinder. They then cheekily ask you to order them some fast food. Would you do it in the hope of a date?
It seems like a lot of men looking for love have actually said yes to that 'proposition'- and sent pizza and other fast food to the houses of women who've asked them using the popular dating app.
The women involved have turned it into a game, called the Tinder games, presumably named after the Hunger Games, to see how much food they can blag off lovesick men. ".
Full article: [URL]http://www.mirror.co.uk/usvsth3m/women-using-tinder-men-send-5645147[/URL].
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SavePros: next article in the near future: "Women stalked and rap3d by some random strangers they gave their physical address to over Tinder in hopes of getting a free meal"
Article after that: "Tinder creates a "Buy me a Pizza" button so that she can "safely" proposition thirsty betas to buy her food without revealing her physical address."
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My experience of.
[QUOTE=ItsMyPiv;1711132]Why pay for it in America? Women are sexually liberated, independent, educated, and successful now. They should give it up for free and pay for the date too.[/QUOTE]American women, as a Brit, is that they have been excellent f*cks with real skills that match the much vaunted Thais. Having spent many years in the USA I think my f*ck*ng experiences there were better than anything I could have had back in the UK.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1720537]"Imagine you started having a bit of banter with someone quite fit on Tinder. They then cheekily ask you to order them some fast food. Would you do it in the hope of a date?
It seems like a lot of men looking for love have actually said yes to that 'proposition'- and sent pizza and other fast food to the houses of women who've asked them using the popular dating app.
The women involved have turned it into a game, called the Tinder games, presumably named after the Hunger Games, to see how much food they can blag off lovesick men. ".
Full article: [URL]http://www.mirror.co.uk/usvsth3m/women-using-tinder-men-send-5645147[/URL].
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SavePros: next article in the near future: "Women stalked and rap3d by some random strangers they gave their physical address to over Tinder in hopes of getting a free meal"
Article after that: "Tinder creates a "Buy me a Pizza" button so that she can "safely" proposition thirsty betas to buy her food without revealing her physical address."[/QUOTE]I have to admit that pizza looks good. These guys have no pizza, and no pussy. Apparently no brains either. I will do my best to find a good slice of pizza here in Medellin, after I go balls deep in Colombia's finest. But my expectations are low, about the pizza not the pussy.
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[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1720605]I have to admit that pizza looks good. These guys have no pizza, and no pussy. Apparently no brains either. I will do my best to find a good slice of pizza here in Medellin, after I go balls deep in Colombia's finest. But my expectations are low, about the pizza not the pussy.[/QUOTE]Good luck with that (the pizza). Dominos Pizza is about as good as it gets, and that's not saying much considering Dominos is absolute garbage to begin with.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1720537]"Imagine you started having a bit of banter with someone quite fit on Tinder. They then cheekily ask you to order them some fast food. Would you do it in the hope of a date?
It seems like a lot of men looking for love have actually said yes to that 'proposition'- and sent pizza and other fast food to the houses of women who've asked them using the popular dating app.
The women involved have turned it into a game, called the Tinder games, presumably named after the Hunger Games, to see how much food they can blag off lovesick men. ".
Full article: [URL]http://www.mirror.co.uk/usvsth3m/women-using-tinder-men-send-5645147[/URL].
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SavePros: next article in the near future: "Women stalked and rap3d by some random strangers they gave their physical address to over Tinder in hopes of getting a free meal"
Article after that: "Tinder creates a "Buy me a Pizza" button so that she can "safely" proposition thirsty betas to buy her food without revealing her physical address."[/QUOTE]So sad. I guess the thirst is real. Pro-tip: save that pizza money and put it towards a trip to a country with legal pros, like the Netherlands or Germany. Every penny counts! Until then tell any tinder bloodsucker who tries to get your bucks for nothing to go to hell. If you can't find a woman, just pull up some naked lady pictures or videos, put your hand in your pants, and move it up and down in a rhythmic motion until satisfaction is achieved.
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Amen
[QUOTE=ItsMyPiv;1720775]So sad. I guess the thirst is real. Pro-tip: save that pizza money and put it towards a trip to a country with legal pros, like the Netherlands or Germany. Every penny counts! Until then tell any tinder bloodsucker who tries to get your bucks for nothing to go to hell. If you can't find a woman, just pull up some naked lady pictures or videos, put your hand in your pants, and move it up and down in a rhythmic motion until satisfaction is achieved.[/QUOTE]God damn American and British "women". And to hell with god as well.
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Double standard of age is a beeyatch
"Maggie Gyllenhaal was told 37 is too old to play love interest of a 55-year-old man".
[URL]http://entertainthis.usatoday.com/2015/05/21/maggie-gyllenhaal-was-told-37-is-too-old-to-play-love-interest-of-a-55-year-old-man/[/URL]
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Shock and dismay
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1724121]"Maggie Gyllenhaal was told 37 is too old to play love interest of a 55-year-old man".
[URL]http://entertainthis.usatoday.com/2015/05/21/maggie-gyllenhaal-was-told-37-is-too-old-to-play-love-interest-of-a-55-year-old-man/[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm shocked and dismayed to hear about this disgusting decision. What were they thinking? Everyone knows women reach their sexual peak in their late 30's and 40's.
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The future for the Western Male
This is what AW's are trying to convince you is attractive. You have my sympothy.
Plus Size Super Model.
[URL]http://finance.yahoo.com/news/reality-youd-earn-working-plus-111800658.html[/URL]#cover-e3 e109 af2404480 a4 cce37 ce0 a62 f2 ae.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1726857]This is what AW's are trying to convince you is attractive. You have my sympothy.
Plus Size Super Model.
[URL]http://finance.yahoo.com/news/reality-youd-earn-working-plus-111800658.html[/URL]#cover-e3 e109 af2404480 a4 cce37 ce0 a62 f2 ae.[/QUOTE]There are different kinds of curvy.
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[QUOTE=ItsMyPiv;1727466]There are different kinds of curvy.[/QUOTE]And you can have them.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1726857]This is what AW's are trying to convince you is attractive. You have my sympothy.
Plus Size Super Model.
[URL]http://finance.yahoo.com/news/reality-youd-earn-working-plus-111800658.html[/URL]#cover-e3 e109 af2404480 a4 cce37 ce0 a62 f2 ae.[/QUOTE]Yeah. As my many previous AW posts reflect, Madison Ave. Advertisers sell crap on TV with these advertising truths:
1. Minorities don't buy / can't sell most of these crappy products 2. Women have control of the money in 80% of American households, so the man of the house shall be portrayed as an idiot 3. The average American woman IS a size 12-22 because many are single moms trying to still have it all. That leaves no time to plan healthy meals and exercise and that isn't going to change any time soon. 4. Guilt sells, your a bad mom if you don't buy this pre-packaged shyt-in-a-box for your kids.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1727552]And you can have them.[/QUOTE]Some of them are spherical in shape, like the plus-sized, heavily tattooed, British model lady in the article. Others have larger fat deposits in strategic locations of the upper torso and posterior, giving them a more curvaceous (rather than globular) figure.
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[QUOTE=ItsMyPiv;1728803]Some of them are spherical in shape, like the plus-sized, heavily tattooed, British model lady in the article. Others have larger fat deposits in strategic locations of the upper torso and posterior, giving them a more curvaceous (rather than globular) figure.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your anatomical explanation. You can still have them.
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A rose by any other name is still fat as fuck.
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American couple caught in the wild on camera
American couple caught on camera engaging in some recreational activities in the wild.
[URL]http://bit.ly/1GoT3R2[/URL]
Lack of GFE and the way she runs off after the deed -- so typical of American women.
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Hilarious!
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1730392]American couple caught on camera engaging in some recreational activities in the wild.
[URL]http://bit.ly/1GoT3R2[/URL]
Lack of GFE and the way she runs off after the deed -- so typical of American women.[/QUOTE]
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She's only being honest!
Plus sized (22) model say's "Black guys like it". I am Black and tend to like them thick, if it is proportional! Inward curving waist, fat enhanced TnA is all good. They can also take a hip thrusted pounding well! A size twenty-two blob is a bit much for me, (and also for women when they evaluate us). I have seen some of my brothers pushing a baby cart along side a hideous fat white chick. She- a reject by her own men. He- A bro that will take ANY fat white chick just because she is white. Also skinny men seem to love big girls also. Beats me.
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/size-22-model-tess-holliday-183000992.html[/URL]
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1732594]A bro that will take ANY fat white chick just because she is white. Also skinny men seem to love big girls also. Beats me.[/QUOTE][URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IZGIBFevQPY[/URL]
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10 photos
Thick versus fat
[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1732594]Plus sized (22) model say's "Black guys like it". I am Black and tend to like them thick, if it is proportional! Inward curving waist, fat enhanced TnA is all good. They can also take a hip thrusted pounding well! A size twenty-two blob is a bit much for me, (and also for women when they evaluate us). I have seen some of my brothers pushing a baby cart along side a hideous fat white chick. She- a reject by her own men. He- A bro that will take ANY fat white chick just because she is white.[/QUOTE]A very long time ago, I got sick and tired of fat women misappropriating the concept of being "thick". OK look chick. You're not thick! You're fat! Now what I like is a PAWG. Listen to the definition LOL: [URL]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pawg[/URL]. Hahaha! One reason why I love Brazil so much is that it's easy to find PAWGs there. And they let you fuck them in their plump, round butts to boot! Haha! I've attached a few pics of some Brazilian PAWGs I have enjoyed during my mongering adventures in Rio. I cornholed every last single one of these PAWGs right in their butt holes. All except for Julia that is. Said she didn't do that. Well 9 out of 10 ain't bad! Hell, that's better than my overall Rio LAA (Lifetime Anal Average) of 70% hehehe!
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Mexican PAWGs
Mexico also got lots of PAWGs believe it or not. Although, they're not as quick to give up the booty hole as the Brasilieras are LOL! Here are some Mexican PAWGs I boned while in Tijuana. Got Mia in that culito! Wasn't a great butt fuck, but it still counts in my Mexico LAA since I did penetrate her "ano" hahaha!
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Fat Ass
[QUOTE=TheCane;1732935]A very long time ago, I got sick and tired of fat women misappropriating the concept of being "thick". OK look chick. You're not thick! You're fat! Now what I like is a PAWG. Listen to the definition LOL: [URL]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pawg[/URL]. Hahaha! One reason why I love Brazil so much is that it's easy to find PAWGs there. And they let you fuck them in their plump, round butts to boot! Haha! I've attached a few pics of some Brazilian PAWGs I have enjoyed during my mongering adventures in Rio. I cornholed every last single one of these PAWGs right in their butt holes. All except for Julia that is. Said she didn't do that. Well 9 out of 10 ain't bad! Hell, that's better than my overall Rio LAA (Lifetime Anal Average) of 70% hehehe![/QUOTE]You are driving me crazy with those pictures.
You had a Ass feast.
Wow.
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Oink! Oink!
[URL]http://www.vox.com/2015/6/15/8784389/america-weight-gain[/URL]
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A Billionaires Advice
ITALIAN HEDGE FUNDER: 'Never, ever marry an American woman'.
[URL]http://finance.yahoo.com/news/italian-hedge-funder-never-ever-144312002.html[/URL]
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Want half?
You got it!
[URL]http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/06/19/german-man-takes-revenge-on-ex-wife-by-sawing-everything-own-in-half-selling-it/[/URL]
Scroll down to bottom to see full video.
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Some old story.
[URL]http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhU0N0m44U1cAf086E[/URL]
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Opera Pizza
[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1720605]I have to admit that pizza looks good. These guys have no pizza, and no pussy. Apparently no brains either. I will do my best to find a good slice of pizza here in Medellin, after I go balls deep in Colombia's finest. But my expectations are low, about the pizza not the pussy.[/QUOTE]If you think it is hard to find good pizza in MDE well Lima is even worse. Anyway This place is very good.
Calle 42 # 70-22 tel. 413-1920 Medellin.
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Well!
Real or not, it's still fun to watch. It's the thought that counts LOL!
[URL]http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/06/19/german-man-takes-revenge-on-ex-wife-by-sawing-everything-own-in-half-selling-it/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW8Fj3a-jI4[/URL]
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Is this you?!
This is probably more typical than not of the American married man. Read and weep for him.
[URL]http://news.yahoo.com/marriage-slovenly-wife-brings-man-close-tears-050211010.html[/URL]
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Is anybody shocked by this news?
Jennifer Fichter "Predator" teacher gets 22 years for sex with students.
[URL]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/predator-teacher-gets-22-years-for-sex-with-students/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Lenin;1743408]Is anybody shocked by this news?
Jennifer Fichter "Predator" teacher gets 22 years for sex with students.
[URL]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/predator-teacher-gets-22-years-for-sex-with-students/[/URL][/QUOTE]If he is to much of a pussy to get rid of that fat nasty * he deserves what he's getting and needs to stop whining to Abby.
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[QUOTE=Lenin;1743408]Is anybody shocked by this news?
Jennifer Fichter "Predator" teacher gets 22 years for sex with students.
[URL]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/predator-teacher-gets-22-years-for-sex-with-students/[/URL][/QUOTE]Good! It's about time they stop letting these broads off the hook so easily. Usually it will be some shit like the judge gave her a slap on the wrist and then she's on a talk show talking about her and the student are in love and are going to get married and have baby.
Imagine a man in the same scenario.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1742929]This is probably more typical than not of the American married man. Read and weep for him.
[URL]http://news.yahoo.com/marriage-slovenly-wife-brings-man-close-tears-050211010.html[/URL][/QUOTE]That reminds of those shows on TV with couples who are thousands of dollars in debt. If you have a wife who is in the hole for $100-k, and you're financially responsible for it, her nookie is basically costing you $100-k. That is if she ever gives you bored starfish loving once every 5 months, instead of having a headache every night. Now for 100 euros you could probably bang hotter women legally in Germany.
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A view from a different part of planet
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1743717]Good! [/QUOTE]Actually in Russia and Ukraine a lot of people who support USA got shock after reading this news. Here is interesting surveys form still alive a last democratic Russian radio:
Would you sign a petition in defense of the 30-year-old teacher who got 22 years in prison for having sex with her students?
Yes 69% (32421 votes).
No 24% (11442 votes).
Don't know 7% (3460 votes).
[URL]http://echo.msk.ru/polls/1578572-echo.html[/URL]
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1742929]This is probably more typical than not of the American married man. Read and weep for him.
[URL]http://news.yahoo.com/marriage-slovenly-wife-brings-man-close-tears-050211010.html[/URL][/QUOTE]And in predictable feminist bullshit fashion, ABBY blames the man, not his 300 lb free-spending pig of a wife:
"DEAR BUMMED OUT: If your wife is happy living this way, she may be right. She isn't the person with the problem -- you are. ".
Yep, it's your fault that you are the bread winner and bought that big-ass house with no help from your fat-ass wife who refuses to work.
[QUOTE=ItsMyPiv;1743843]That reminds of those shows on TV with couples who are thousands of dollars in debt. If you have a wife who is in the hole for $100-k, and you're financially responsible for it, her nookie is basically costing you $100-k. That is if she ever gives you bored starfish loving once every 5 months, instead of having a headache every night. Now for 100 euros you could probably bang hotter women legally in Germany.[/QUOTE]Yep, most guys don't know how to factor in Total Cost of Ownership when they consider marriage. You've basically bought a prostitue that you can't pay to go away (unless you pay out the ass in court, a*k*a "divorce-r3pe").
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Rent don't buy
Renting pussy is much cheaper in the long run than buying it. After 3 divorces, of course it had to be me could never be her fault, I have received much better service from those I paid than from any spouse. Even the worst hooker was better than any of the wives and you can change providers with no problem when you get bored with the one you are currently banging.
Just my 2 cents.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1735565]ITALIAN HEDGE FUNDER: 'Never, ever marry an American woman'.
[URL]http://finance.yahoo.com/news/italian-hedge-funder-never-ever-144312002.html[/URL][/QUOTE]But is it still okay to have one-night stands and vacation romances with adventurous American college girls who are spending their spring break travelling through Europe? I'm sure it is.
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[QUOTE=ItsMyPiv;1750103]But is it still okay to have one-night stands and vacation romances with adventurous American college girls who are spending their spring break travelling through Europe? I'm sure it is.[/QUOTE]Of course it is. Just keep your heart out of it and all is good.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1744868]And in predictable feminist bullshit fashion, ABBY blames the man, not his 300 lb free-spending pig of a wife:
"DEAR BUMMED OUT: If your wife is happy living this way, she may be right. She isn't the person with the problem -- you are".
Yep, it's your fault that you are the bread winner and bought that big-ass house with no help from your fat-ass wife who refuses to work.[/QUOTE]
You are not being fair to Abby. She ends her advice by saying "You say you may not be able to afford a divorce, but if what's driving you to the poorhouse is your free-spending spouse, it would also be in your interest to consult an attorney to find out if it's possible to break that cycle. ".
In other words, what she really says is "Grow some balls and rather than whine for 20 years, do something about it". Quite the opposite from what you understood it seems.
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[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1750207]In other words, what she really says is "Grow some balls and rather than whine for 20 years, do something about it". Quite the opposite from what you understood it seems.[/QUOTE]Correct but then your logic doesn't fit the sad narrative of this thread.
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Where Did that Ad Go?
I can't find the original post. Someone posted a few months ago about a TV spot for lady's razors that featured 3 attractive bikini-clad lady's trimming a 'bush' that was strategically placed in front of their genitals. I saw that ad several times this past spring. I wondered how long it would play before the feminists pressured for its removal. It just occurred to me that I have not seen that ad for several weeks now. I guess its gone.
P.S. It was the TV ad for Schick Hydro Silk Trimstyle razor.
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[QUOTE=George90;1754673]I can't find the original post. Someone posted a few months ago about a TV spot for lady's razors that featured 3 attractive bikini-clad lady's trimming a 'bush' that was strategically placed in front of their genitals. I saw that ad several times this past spring. I wondered how long it would play before the feminists pressured for its removal. It just occurred to me that I have not seen that ad for several weeks now. I guess its gone.
P.S. It was the TV ad for Schick Hydro Silk Trimstyle razor.[/QUOTE]It was on TV in Sacramento the other day. Great commercial!
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Internet
[QUOTE=George90;1754673]I can't find the original post. Someone posted a few months ago about a TV spot for lady's razors that featured 3 attractive bikini-clad lady's trimming a 'bush' that was strategically placed in front of their genitals. I saw that ad several times this past spring. I wondered how long it would play before the feminists pressured for its removal. It just occurred to me that I have not seen that ad for several weeks now. I guess its gone.
P.S. It was the TV ad for Schick Hydro Silk Trimstyle razor.[/QUOTE]LOL! George90.
I have not seen this commercial on TV, but I found it on the internet. Thanks for bringing up this topic. It made my day.
[URL]http://www.ispot.tv/ad/7mXn/schick-hydro-silk-trimstyle-by-the-pool[/URL]
FiddyCent.
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Here's the deal
Western men have choices. And we must choose very wisely! Western women are arrogant, cocky, high maintenance, disrespectful, and quick to file for divorce. And in the divorce courts it's all in the women's favor. She will get your house, your car, your money, custody of your children, and she may qualify for all kinds of government subsidy programs. So why would any western woman stay married or truly respect men? Of course they won't, and they never will under the current social regime. More than 50 percent of US marriages end up in divorce. Western men, you need to get smart about this. Do yourself a big favor and don't let yourself get caught up in the western female's dangerous, life-ruining, black widow spider of a web!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1755031]Western men have choices. And we must choose very wisely! Western women are arrogant, cocky, high maintenance, disrespectful, and quick to file for divorce. And in the divorce courts it's all in the women's favor. She will get your house, your car, your money, custody of your children, and she may qualify for all kinds of government subsidy programs. So why would any western woman stay married or truly respect men? Of course they won't, and they never will under the current social regime. More than 50 percent of US marriages end up in divorce. Western men, you need to get smart about this. Do yourself a big favor and don't let yourself get caught up in the western female's dangerous, life-ruining, black widow spider of a web![/QUOTE]They also can get half of your retirement. I have friends who's wives are getting more of their money than they are. Western men need to wake up.
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I'm sure we can all think of one or two good reasons for getting married.
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[QUOTE=FiddyCent;1754908]LOL! George90. I have not seen this commercial on TV, but I found it on the internet. Thanks for bringing up this topic. It made my day.
[URL]http://www.ispot.tv/ad/7mXn/schick-hydro-silk-trimstyle-by-the-pool[/URL]FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]I made the original post in April, and as I predicted, it's dead (dying a slow death since Fiddy and the Cups are reporting it's on life support). I always saw it on the CW, not primetime networks. TV show producers will always push the envelope until women, conservatives and religious groups push back in this country when it comes to racy content. I am still stuck in the USA nickname (pussy jail).
The late great Patrice O'Neal explains how AW are hold you by the balls in this country in this YT clip. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=271gbSxVrNk[/URL].
It's long. Skip to min 26 to get to the truth as preached by Rev. O'Neal!
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Men are losers in this day and age
[QUOTE=TheCane;1755031]Western men have choices. And we must choose very wisely! Western women are arrogant, cocky, high maintenance, disrespectful, and quick to file for divorce. And in the divorce courts it's all in the women's favor. She will get your house, your car, your money, custody of your children, and she may qualify for all kinds of government subsidy programs. So why would any western woman stay married or truly respect men? Of course they won't, and they never will under the current social regime. More than 50 percent of US marriages end up in divorce. Western men, you need to get smart about this. Do yourself a big favor and don't let yourself get caught up in the western female's dangerous, life-ruining, black widow spider of a web![/QUOTE]I've tried many times to get across what you are saying. Sure women are fun in bed, we men think about sex almost daily. But what happens is that too many men get so obsessed with women and sex that they become slaves. It's painful to see how dominant women are in social life. Men are basically nothing but side-kicks to the girls. Wherever it is, whether at the bar, at the party, at work or what have you, the social game is entirely played on the terms of the females, and the guys put up with it. The worst aspect of it all is the competition between males in order to get the hottest babes. It's a sad situation for men in this day and age.
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Another reason to get married to a nice American women
So you have someone to share your cake with!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1755031]Western men have choices. And we must choose very wisely! Western women are arrogant, cocky, high maintenance, disrespectful, and quick to file for divorce. And in the divorce courts it's all in the women's favor. She will get your house, your car, your money, custody of your children, and she may qualify for all kinds of government subsidy programs. So why would any western woman stay married or truly respect men? Of course they won't, and they never will under the current social regime. More than 50 percent of US marriages end up in divorce. Western men, you need to get smart about this. Do yourself a big favor and don't let yourself get caught up in the western female's dangerous, life-ruining, black widow spider of a web![/QUOTE]I believe MOST if not ALL men ASK the women to marry them. Knowing the system. There is no trickery. Divorce laws have not changed in the last 100 years. If anything they have changed more in favor of men not less. There are men who get alimony and custody of the kids now. So it can go both ways. And women do NOT get everything. Just HALF, marriage is a partnership.
Don't get married, if you can't handle the consequences. Many men want permanent relationships. Not meaningless financially funded sex. If its not for you. So be it.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1756252]Don't get married, if you can't handle the consequences. Many men want permanent relationships. Not meaningless financially funded sex. If its not for you. So be it.[/QUOTE]Whatever you say "ThatGirl". But you see, the scam started a long, long time ago when those men were little boys and were indoctrinated (more like brainwashed). Also, you assume that the only way to have a satisfying, permanent relationship with a woman is through marriage. Again, you're just plain wrong. And by the way, why do you keep hanging around here with us guys who are interested in only meaningless, financially-funded sex? Shouldn't you be out buying an engagement ring or something? After all, every kiss begins with Kay! LOLOLOLOL!
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The other shoe
[QUOTE=TellAll;1755168]They also can get half of your retirement. I have friends who's wives are getting more of their money than they are. Western men need to wake up.[/QUOTE]And here's the other thing. Of that 50% that stays married, they're not all happy! I'd say of that group, half of them really aren't happy together, but they stay married for whatever their own twisted reasons are. So maybe only a quarter of the marriages are successful and happy! That says to me that the odds are long when it comes to the probability of having a loving marriage that lasts. Now, I don't need folks like "ThatGirl" giving me advice on the facts of life and how I ought to deal with them. Like I've said, I know what the real deal is, and I won't allow societal brainwashing and out and out lies about "living happily ever after" and "till death do us part" lead me down a path that I know is a fraud, and that won't work for me. I'm a logical man who relies upon the facts, and those facts tell me that marriage is not a good deal for the free-thinking western man, and especially not a marriage to a western woman! And I am unanimous in that LOL!
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1756252]I believe MOST if not ALL men ASK the women to marry them. Knowing the system. There is no trickery. Divorce laws have not changed in the last 100 years. If anything they have changed more in favor of men not less. There are men who get alimony and custody of the kids now. So it can go both ways. And women do NOT get everything. Just HALF, marriage is a partnership.
Don't get married, if you can't handle the consequences. Many men want permanent relationships. Not meaningless financially funded sex. If its not for you. So be it.[/QUOTE]Right on! And sometimes you instantly know true love the moment you see it!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1756375]Whatever you say "ThatGirl". But you see, the scam started a long, long time ago when those men were little boys and were indoctrinated (more like brainwashed). Also, you assume that the only way to have a satisfying, permanent relationship with a woman is through marriage. Again, you're just plain wrong. And by the way, why do you keep hanging around here with us guys who are interested in only meaningless, financially-funded sex? Shouldn't you be out buying an engagement ring or something? After all, every kiss begins with Kay! LOLOLOLOL![/QUOTE]Cane That guy is here to get in touch with his inner soon to be outter woman. Why else would he be here defending a system as Biased against men as marriage and divorce.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1756385]And here's the other thing. Of that 50% that stays married, they're not all happy! I'd say of that group, half of them really aren't happy together, but they stay married for whatever their own twisted reasons are. So maybe only a quarter of the marriages are successful and happy! That says to me that the odds are long when it comes to the probability of having a loving marriage that lasts. Now, I don't need folks like "ThatGirl" giving me advice on the facts of life and how I ought to deal with them. Like I've said, I know what the real deal is, and I won't allow societal brainwashing and out and out lies about "living happily ever after" and "till death do us part" lead me down a path that I know is a fraud, and that won't work for me. I'm a logical man who relies upon the facts, and those facts tell me that marriage is not a good deal for the free-thinking western man, and especially not a marriage to a western woman! And I am unanimous in that LOL![/QUOTE]How would you know what percentage of men are happy in their marriage. I guess you are a psychic too.
[B]Oh and many of the 50% of guys that get divorced .. get married again. [/B] But I guess they were grabbed and secretly re-brainwashed.
Its not only western men that marry. I think marriage is [B]worldwide [/B]. I could be wrong. Hmmmm.
Maybe its a female conspiracy. They brainwash men worldwide at birth. Damn those sneaky women.
As I said. No one forces anyone to get married. [B]If its not for you .. don't do it. [/B].
Thatguy. Peace out.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1756252]I believe MOST if not ALL men ASK the women to marry them. Knowing the system. There is no trickery. Divorce laws have not changed in the last 100 years. If anything they have changed more in favor of men not less. There are men who get alimony and custody of the kids now. So it can go both ways. And women do NOT get everything. Just HALF, marriage is a partnership.[/QUOTE]We keep singing the same old songs on this forum. So since I'm stuck in the states the only way to keep adding my post count is to bytch on this AW forum. Yes TG, I have asked for hands in marriage. Twice. Both times a total waste of my life. I didn't learn from the first time because there were no kids and it did not cost me like the second time. Percentages are surely on the woman's side TG, though some men get awarded the kids and all, but the woman must be a true slug for that to happen. Women are conditioned to cry to get their way to make you look like an asshole, and themselves ever the victim. Am not a laywer, so I can't speak to divorce law or family court. What is still sewn in the American fabric is the concept of family, love and marriage. The right wing is forever trying to elect any and all office holders to run your life with that agenda.
[QUOTE=TheCane;1756375]Whatever you say "ThatGirl". But you see, the scam started a long, long time ago when those men were little boys and were indoctrinated (more like brainwashed). Also, you assume that the only way to have a satisfying, permanent relationship with a woman is through marriage. Again, you're just plain wrong. And by the way, why do you keep hanging around here with us guys who are interested in only meaningless, financially-funded sex? Shouldn't you be out buying an engagement ring or something? After all, every kiss begins with Kay! LOLOLOLOL![/QUOTE]We baby boomers were brain washed with the family sitcoms. Brady Bunch families that eat, play and laugh together. I sure bought into it, and wanted it, and thought family was the way to be. This mindset was beat into us on TV, at church and somewhat in school. Remember how every single mom and dad on TV was a widow, or widower? Divorce was not even mentioned. TV is in almost every home in the country, hypnotizing your brain.
Music is also in on it. There is nothing more powerful than a good song. It gets in your soul, seeps into your bones and takes over your mind. You have to have her, she is so pretty! OH, I"M IN LOVE! You have been hypnotized! (Evil laugh).
Every gift begins with Kay! Ah, and least we forget Madison Ave. We have got to separate these men from there money! Your a bad son and don't love your mama on mothers day, your wife on your anniversary, if you don't buy a gift! Listen TG, I would never try to tell a young man in love with his young sweetheart to not make a commitment to his sweet young thing. I would, however, try to warn him to go slow with important decisions and the nature of people leads to always think the grass is greener. Lastly tell the lad that we truly get sickened of each other after so many years.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1756457]Cane That guy is here to get in touch with his inner soon to be outter woman. Why else would he be here defending a system as Biased against men as marriage and divorce.[/QUOTE]ThatGuy is not defending anything. I'm just stating the reality of the situation. Guys here don't want to take any responsibility for their part, its all the woman's fault.
But the reality is. Guys ask women to marry them. No one forces them. The system hasn't changed in 100 yrs so there is no excuse.
Every guy knows during divorce the woman gets half and if kids are involved the man will have a hard time getting full custody.
Its like a guy goes to Vegas, gambles and loses, then complains. It was unfair, I was tricked because the house has the odds stacked against me.
As for. "Every gift begins with Kay" . Well I got married and divorced, but. I was man enough to tell my wife we are not wasting money on a huge diamond ring.
We got simple gold wedding bands. If a guy isn't man enough to set boundaries from the start. Again that his fault. Not the woman.
Just as a woman holds the cards in divorce, a man should be man enough to hold the cards when he gets married. If the woman insist and its a financial burden on the man.
Then its HIS fault if he caves in. He started the marriage in a weak position. Men need to be men. 1st and foremost when getting married.
But I guess this is a thread for men to whine. Like old women. Sorry, I brought reality to the thread. Carry on.
TG out.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1756547]We keep singing the same old songs on this forum. So since I'm stuck in the states the only way to keep adding my post count is to bytch on this AW forum. [/QUOTE]Likewise. I'm house bound for a couple of weeks. Bored. I haven't been on for quite awhile. As for baby boomers being brainwashed by family sitcoms. Correct me if I'm wrong. But. I still think Millennials are getting married.
What about other countries. What drove those men to marry. Its a human thing. I don't think there is any society that doesn't have some form of marriage.
When men fall in love, most (Not all, so don't anyone say. "not me") want to have that woman to themselves. Even Bush jungle men have a family structure.
Have a good day NG.
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Thank you
Thank you to ThatGuy for adding some balance to this otherwise "woman-hating" thread. Sure, there's plenty to "hate" about, but at the same time, ThatGuy brings up a lot of valid points as well. Nice to see some other viewpoints exchanged here for a change.
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Every guy knows during divorce the woman gets half and if kids are involved the man will have a hard time getting full custody.
...[/QUOTE]In an ideal case both contributed the same and get half. Agree.
If there are kids, they need to be supported etc. Agree.
However, benefits are better for the woman. At least to Swiss law if he makes more money. I "escaped" with a lot of luck; I cannot complain. After marriage, my ex thought she is getting a full service package and when I expected her to behave like a grown up, she found the next guy (8 months after marriage, 6 yrs. In relationship), but at the same time was looking for my money. It cost me a cheap flat.
A friend being in a relationship for ten years, married for 6, no kids: total damage of divorce was 160 k CHF. The judge even calculated the last vacations on the Maldives (15 k total, 7. 5 k for her to MAINTAIN THE STANDARD OF LIVING). So, woman might go with another guy and the ex maintains her f. Life standard. So he paid before and after.
Another friend paying an amount you could easily live with in CH. However, she has a wealthy new boyfriend and does not want to make it official, so she can get his money.
Conclusion: you are working your ass off. Making good money. Being generous. She wants better entertainment. Leaves. Has a new guy. And you continue paying. Despite kids.
For men making less money: work harder, live on the edge. She can sit at home and collects the money.
Hope that's better in the US. I prefer mongering and although sometimes overdoing it, I got sex, still have female friends (without the need of starving for sex) and still spending less.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1756472]How would you know what percentage of men are happy in their marriage. I guess you are a psychic too.
[B]Oh and many of the 50% of guys that get divorced .. get married again. [/B] But I guess they were grabbed and secretly re-brainwashed.
Its not only western men that marry. I think marriage is [B]worldwide [/B]. I could be wrong. Hmmmm.
Maybe its a female conspiracy. They brainwash men worldwide at birth. Damn those sneaky women.
As I said. No one forces anyone to get married. [B]If its not for you .. don't do it. [/B].
Thatguy. Peace out.[/QUOTE]Ha! You're the last somebody here to be criticizing somebody else about making psychic declarations. What with your magical marital contracts whereby it's specified that the man is supposed to get up and go to work and do everything to "make her happy" while the woman gets to just sit at home on her fat, shining, hind parts doing nothing but holding her hand out waiting for her "allowance" money. And those guys who get divorced and then turn right around and get married again? Well, they're just some dumb fucks who didn't learn anything the first time LOL! Oh and remember! Every time they re-marry, 50% of the time those marriages will end in divorce too hahaha! It's like compounding interest LOLOLOL! And more unhappiness and misery for the plentiful people who remain married even though the love is long gone LOL! There's zero sense in going around and around with the likes of you. A lost cause. It's done!
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Why men won't get married anymore: Women complain chaps today won't settle down.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1756619]Correct me if I'm wrong. But. I still think Millennials are getting married.
[/QUOTE]Just only the sucker Millennials. Everyone else seems to be catching on:
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By PETER LLOYD FOR THE DAILY MAIL.
PUBLISHED: 18:36 EST, 19 April 2015.
UPDATED: 08:26 EST, 20 April 2015.
George Clooney, Benedict Cumberbatch and Eddie Redmayne may have all taken the plunge recently but they are a diminishing band of brothers, for the number of men marrying in the West has plunged in recent decades.
The state of matrimony is not just ailing. It is dying out faster than a mobile phone battery.
According to the Office for National Statistics, marriage in Britain is at its lowest level since 1895. In 2011, there were just 286,634 ceremonies a 41 per cent free fall from 1972, when 480,285 couples tied the knot.
For an army of women, Mr Right is simply not there, no matter how hard they look for him. And the reason? When it comes to marriage, men are on strike.
Why? Because the rewards are far less than they used to be, while the cost and dangers it presents are far greater.
'Ultimately, men know there's a good chance they'll lose their friends, their respect, their space, their sex life, their money and if it all goes wrong their family,' says Dr Helen Smith, author of Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood And The American Dream.
'They don't want to enter into a legal contract with someone who could effectively take half their savings, pension and property when the honeymoon period is over.
'Men aren't wimping out by staying unmarried or being commitment phobes. They're being smart. '.
When British businessman Alan Miller married his first wife, Melissa, in 2003, he thought it was for ever. She immediately decided to give up work, including her 85,000 salary, to become what is known as a 'Harvey Nichols wife' spending her time shopping and lunching.
When they separated just two years and nine months later, he was forced to pay her a 5 million divorce settlement, which included his 2.3 million home in Chelsea and a 2.7 million lump sum despite the fact they did not have children. That's 5,000 a day of marriage. Ker-ching!
Or take former Arsenal footballer Ray Parlour. When he wed girlfriend Karen in 1998, it all started out rosy. But by the time the relationship fell apart in 2004, the former optician's nurse didn't just get two mortgage-free houses, 38,500 in annual support for their three children and a 250,000 tax-free lump sum.
Oh no. She also got personal maintenance of 406,500 a year from her ex's future earnings. This, she said, was because she had 'encouraged' him to be a good midfielder.
This is precisely why the WAG culture rages through our country like an aggressive disease. Girls of 16 aspire to be glamorous girlfriends because it's an easy life not because they love the game or even the men playing it.
Young women who wear so much make-up they have to tip their heads back to get their eyes open are encouraged to hunt in packs until they snag a rich footballer.
Why? Because it beats getting up at 7am, doing the daily commute and actually thinking about something other than themselves.
And then, when the marriage is over, its time for the wife to make what Mayfair-based divorce lawyer Camilla Baldwin calls some real money more than the average person ever dreams of. Especially as some judges, particularly those in London, are renowned for favouring the wife in the division of assets.
So, whats a man to do? If hes determined to get married, then he must get a pre-nuptial agreement, says Baldwin. Otherwise steer clear altogether.
Be in a relationship, even live together. But dont get married. Especially if you have any prospect of making money.
American social commentator Suzanne Venker agrees. The problem with divorce settlements, she says, is women want to have their cake and eat it.
We messed with the old marriage structure and now its broken, she says. Back in the old days, stay-at-home mothers got a financial reward because child-rearing doesnt pay cash.
Now we want total independence from men, but if we divorce even without having children we expect to get alimony for ever. We cant have it both ways.
Along with the prospect of endless domestic criticism, this is why men are saying I dont rather than I do. Men need marriage like a fish needs a bicycle.
Many women have been raised to think of men as the enemy, says Venker. Its precisely this dynamic women good, men bad that has destroyed the relationship between the sexes.
After decades of browbeating, men are tired. Tired of being told theres something fundamentally wrong with them. Tired of being told that if women arent happy, its their fault. The rise of women has not threatened men. It has just irritated them.
But by far the most negative aspect of marriage is the likelihood of being edited out of your childrens lives if it all goes pear-shaped by a state that has relegated the role of father to its lowest point ever.
Full article: [URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3046350/Why-men-refuse-marry-Women-complain-chaps-today-won-t-settle-Sorry-ladies-s-fault-argues-wickedly-provocative-new-book-Denigration-Men-PETER-LLOYD.html[/URL].
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I wish American broads would have access to this. I wonder how the USA Compares. Hell, I won't even date American broads let alone have a relationship with them. Just for fun I keep an account on Plenty of Fish dot com (it's free) and my inbox is inundated with inquiries from fat, old, ugly whales. I keep a subscription to the site to motivate me for my next overseas trip. QUOTE=SavePros321;1760324.
Why-men-refuse-marry-Women-complain-chaps-today-won-t-settle-Sorry-ladies-s-fault-argues-wickedly-provocative-new-book-Denigration-Men-PETER-LLOYD. Html[ / URL QUOTE.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1756614]ThatGuy is not defending anything. I'm just stating the reality of the situation. Guys here don't want to take any responsibility for their part, its all the woman's fault. But the reality is. Guys ask women to marry them. No one forces them. The system hasn't changed in 100 yrs so there is no excuse.
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Just as a woman holds the cards in divorce, [b]a man should be man enough to hold the cards when he gets married[/b]. If the woman insist and its a financial burden on the man.
Then its HIS fault if he caves in. He started the marriage in a weak position. Men need to be men. 1st and foremost when getting married.[/QUOTE]While I strongly agree with Cane, ThatGuy has made valid points in his post. We men need to have fortitude to resist marrying women who are not marriage material. We need to have the vision of the type of family life we want to define what is marriage material to us and to recognize when we see it.
In the 90's I heard some complaints in the media abut men being on a marriage strike. If that was true then some of us have learned something.
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I replied before reading Savepros' post about men's marriage strike in the UK. I am very glad its spreading!
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While marriage is down. Its more about the binding financial contract than not wanting to be with just one woman.
I say that because the number of marriages are down. But. The number of couples living together out of wedlock has steadily increased.
There is no longer that stigma, towards women who live with a man without being married. So many couples now simply live together.
In a monogamous relationship.
And whether a guy is married or not and has kids. The situation of support does not change.
If you are a millionaire. She will get custody and receive the life style for that kid of a millionaire's kid. There are so many examples of this.
So its not that men don't want to be in a committed relationship, they simply don't want to make it financially binding.
This thread is about AW and most guys on it thinking was men didn't want to be with western women at all, which is not the case.
The institution of marriage was created when the avg life span was around 40 and people got married as young as 12. Now as medicine.
Has progressed and the avg life span is 70 to 80 marrying for a life time is not realistic. So divorce is inevitable.
But. That doesn't mean guys / women don't want to be in committed monogamous relationships.
I have always thought they should make marriages sort of like drivers licenses, but longer. Maybe the contract expires every 5 or 10 yrs.
Very few people stay the same for 50 to 60 yrs. So as people change, relationships also do.
So whether married or living together. Men are still having committed relationships. Men are just becoming serial monogamous.
One long term relationship after another. Whether thru marriage or living together.
That's really the conversation on this thread or we should change the thread to "Opinions on Marriage" . Then I'd agree with most marriage.
As it stands today. For life. Marriage is not going to last.
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[QUOTE=DCups;1760486]I wish American broads would have access to this. I wonder how the USA Compares. Hell, I won't even date American broads let alone have a relationship with them. Just for fun I keep an account on Plenty of Fish dot com (it's free) and my inbox is inundated with inquiries from fat, old, ugly whales. I keep a subscription to the site to motivate me for my next overseas trip. [/QUOTE]True POF story that happened to me just yesterday:
I had been talking and texting with a woman from that site all week, and quickly began to escalate the timeframe that we agree to meet up (I don't like spending too much time on the phone with women. Got too much value-add shit to do in my personal life). All we agreed on was that sometime this weekend we would meet.
Last night she asked me to come out and meet her. I already had stuff of my own going on, so I told asked her if we could meet up tomorrow (today) for coffee.
Her response: "I don't drink coffee."
I'm thinking: [i]Shit, Starbucks has more than just coffee![/i]
Me: "Do you drink tea? Smoothies?"
Her response: "LOL."
I then ask: "What do you suggest?"
Her: "I don't know. What's around you?"
Immediately my Spidey-senses kick in and I'm thinking: [i]Yeah, this broad is going to want to go out to eat somewhere.[/i]
Me: "Probably the same stuff around you. What, are you wanting to meet at a restaurant or something?"
Her: "It doesn't matter."
Me: "I'm good with that so long as we are going dutch."
Then she goes silent on me. Bingo.
You see fellas, after spending a good amount of time hanging out at the Reddit thread r/TheRedPill/, I am no longer the Beta chump that I once was, which involved buying chicks dinner on our first meet up. That is the shittiest ROI for a guy in the U.S. dating game. Coffee is a safe investment. Hell, a walk in the park is an even safer investment. If she turns out to be a fatty, or gives you no indication she's be interested in anything other than your wallet, the only thing you've lost out on is time that you could have spent in the gym, or doing something hobby-related.
To agree to buy dinner for a chick you have just met is to acknowledge that you are paying for her companionship. That you are paying for the honor of having her in your company. That shit doesn't fly with me anymore. If I am going to pay for a woman's companionship, I'll hire an escort.
Anyway, I then replied to her: "Well, I have some work I brought home and will be on my laptop for the most part tomorrow, so if you want to meet then just give me a timeframe so that I know in advance."
Her: "Oh, ok."
And I imagine that's the last I'd hear from her, which is absolutely fine with me. We are not going to play the game of multiple dates with me buying you shit until you decide you might give me a peck on the cheek, LOL.
I like the photo Mr. Enternational posted of his chat conversation with a broad who said she was "Old Fashion" and believed that a man should pay for everything. To which Mr. E responded: "So I guess the game is to see how much of my money we can spend then?" ([b]Mr. E:[/b] Please repost if you still have that pic)
Don't be a sucker for these modern-day "independent women" who still expect you to pay their way in life, especially in the online dating world. There are women on there that have dates lined up for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and then drinks at the club later that night with thirsty betas that are tripping over themselves to spend their entire paychecks on a hope that her arm might brush across their dick at some point during the date.
Spend some time on The Red Pill. There is no such thing as "I need to get to know you first." Women know if they will fuck you or not from the first time they meet you. You cannot negotiate attraction. Rule of Thumb: If you cannot get a chick to come over to your place after meeting her for the first time (either online or after meeting her in person), then you are wasting your time with that chick.
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Wait for it?
Just would like to share with you thought-provoking articles that I come across during my traversing through the Manospehere. This one is from one of the well-know titans in the Manosphere: Rollo Tomassi.
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[B]Iron Rule of Tomassi #3[/B]
[i]Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.[/i]
When a woman makes you wait for sex you are not her highest priority. Sexuality is spontaneous chemical reaction between two parties, not a process of negotiation. It's sex first, then relationship, not the other way around. [b]A woman who wants to fuck you will find a way to fuck you. She will fly across the country, crawl under barbwire, climb in through your second story bedroom window, fuck the shit out of you and wait patiently inside your closet if your wife comes home early from work. Women who want to fuck will find a way to fuck.[/b] [b][red]The girl who tells you she needs to be comfortable and wants a relationship first is the same girl who fucked the hot guy in the foam cannon party in Cancun on spring break just half an hour after meeting him.[/red][/b]
If a girl is that into you she'll have sex with you regardless of ASD (Anti-$lut Defense) or having her friends in the room videotaping it at a frat party. All women can be sluts, you just have to be the right guy to bring it out in them, and this happens before you go back to her place. If you have to plead your case cuddling and spooning on the bed or getting the occasional peck on the cheek at the end of the night, you need to go back to square one and start fresh.
I'm probably going to ruffle a few PUA (Pick-up Artist) feathers here, but I've never been a proponent of breaking down LMR (last minute resistance) with a woman. Maybe it's a result of experiences in my rock star 20's, but at some point I came to the conclusion that sex with a woman who's turned on by me is always a far better than one where I had to sell her on the idea of sex with me before the act. Now don't take this to the binary extreme and assume I mean the only good sex you'll ever have is a first night lay (FNL) with some tart who can't keep her legs closed. What I mean is that if you're still trying to figure out what the magic words are to convince some girl that she ought fuck you after 3 dates or longer you're in desire negotiation hearings counselor. You are wasting your time and limiting your opportunity with better prospective women in waiting out a woman who would defer less than 100% of her real desire to have sex with you. The sex will NEVER be worth the wait. A prostitute would be a better alternative.
Genuine desire cannot be negotiated. Once you get past a certain point in the waiting game, what once had the chance to be an organic, sexual desire becomes mitigated negotiation of a physical act. Just the fact that you're having to make a case for yourself (even covertly) is evidence that there are other factors inhibiting her capacity to be sexual with you. As I stated, barring a physical inability, this is almost always because of an unmentioned agenda on her part. It may be due to a concurrent boyfriend, it may be a natural internal caution, it may be that your process is telegraphing 'beta' to her, or it may be that she's filibustering you while waiting to see if another, more preferable guy pans out for her, however, none of these are insurmountable if she has a genuine desire to bang you. Many a cheated on boyfriend knows this is true. In any circumstance, sex with you is not an urgency for her. If she's perceiving your value as as high as it should be, she won't hesitate longer than a few dates to become sexual and she certainly won't tell you she's making you wait. Hypergamy doesn't afford a woman much waiting time with a Man she sees as superior stock.
One of the more frustrating situations I often encounter comes from guys who've been OVERTLY told that they're being made to wait for sex until some circumstance or criteria is met for the woman. The standard filibuster (or loss-leader as the case may be) usually comes with the reasoning that she "needs to feel comfortable" before she has sex with a guy. Even more distressing is the guy who was getting laid, only to be told the same thing by an existing girlfriend. If you find yourself in either of these situation there are a couple of things to bear in mind.
First and foremost, sex, by it's nature is uncomfortable. Sex that is motivated by mutual, genuine desire is a tense affair, fueled by testosterone, anxiety and urgency. When two people get together for a first dance (a precursor to copulation), it's rarely if ever an intimate slow dance. It's salsa, it's grinding, it's pumping, it's heat and it's sweat. What it's not is comforting and familiar. It's not a nice warm bathrobe fresh out of the dryer. Don't take this the wrong way, but sex is threatening. It needs to be, and you need to be considered a sexualized player in her personal sphere. Overtly agreeing to wait for her to become sexual is anti-seductive. It confirms for her that you aren't a sexualized player to her; an Alpha wouldn't wait for sex and she knows this. Worse still, it devalues her SMV as being worth less than of your utmost urgency.
Secondly, always remember why women resort to OVERT communications (the language of men) so there is no, or less, margin that her message will be misunderstood. If a woman, point blank says, "I'm not having sex with you until X,why, and Z happens", what is her MEDIUM telling you? That there is a precondition that's more important to her than fucking you with genuine, uncontrollable passion. You want her to be so into you that she's willing to break the rules. The ideal situation is for her genuine passion to be so uncontrollable for you that she'the renounce her religion and throw her convictions to the wind to be with you. That might seem a bit dramatic, but you get the idea. The good news now is that she's being overt, which means she's exhausted her reserves to be covert and, assuming you're not so desperate as to delude yourself, you can NEXT her and move on.
Rapport ≠ Comfort.
A lot of "waiters" find all that a tough road to hoe. They want to stick it out and see if things "might develop", and NEXTing their 'waiting girl' seems a lot like throwing the baby out with the bath water after all the time they've invested in building what they think is rapport. Usually this is due to the guy not spinning (enough) other plates that would bear more fruit. However, keep this in mind; waiting for sex isn't building rapport. There's a lot of confusion about rapport, most of which is due to well meaning PUAs conflating rapport with comfort. It's a pretty esoteric term, but rapport is a connection; it's an implied trust between two acting agents who previously had never met or only have limited knowledge of each other. You can have rapport with an animal that's the connection, it's instinctual.
Comfort comes from familiarity and predictability; all decidedly anti-seductive influences. And while comfort has it's own merits in interpersonal relationships, it is not the basis for genuine, passionate sexual desire. For people (myself included) involved in a marriage or LTR, it's serves our long-term best interest to convince ourselves that sex is better when your comfortable with your partner, however, the reality of it sings a different tune. Here's an easy illustration: As reported by both men and women alike, which of these circumstances provokes the most intense, memorable sexual experiences? When a couple plans and arranges a romantic "date night" to 'keep it fresh' and reconnect? Or is it the 'make-up sex' after a horrible breakup, or narrowly averted breakup, where long dormant competition anxiety is brought back into being a very real possibility again? If you said the breakup, you're correct! One scenario is comfortable, the other uncomfortable. One has the element of predictable certainty, the other is chaotic and uncertain, however in both situations there is definitely a working mutually connective rapport operating.
[URL]http://therationalmale.com/2011/09/23/wait-for-it/[/URL]
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One more for the road...
This article was up-voted 696 times and is certified TRP (The Red Pill) Gold:
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[B]Never sacrifice a thing. Make her sacrifice for you.[/B]
By Archwinger (TRP)
Disney, popular culture, and modern feminism foster a viewpoint that having a woman in your life is a great reward. The modern story goes that a regular guy is supposed to pursue a fairly average girl, she probably rejects him a few times at first, but he keeps himself present in her life, is a great guy, does things for her, and demonstrates how much he can benefit her and how in love he is and willing to sacrifice for her, and she eventually agrees to be his girlfriend. The fact that she agreed to be a part of his life is his reward. He had to jump through hoops to earn it, and he needs to go out of his way and do everything he can to keep her happy so she stays with him, because having her in his life is his reward. A man should be grateful to have a girlfriend at all, because if you don't have a girlfriend, you're a loser.
A girlfriend's not really required to do anything. You're not supposed to make her buy you things, clean your apartment, cook your meals, or insist that she have sex with you. You're not entitled to any of that just because she's your girlfriend. She does those things if and when she wants to. Your reward is that she's willing to be your girlfriend. Not any of those things you'the think a girlfriend might do for you. Just having her in your life is the reward. A woman spending time in your presence is the greatest thing ever. Forget that spending time in your presence usually involves giving you one-word responses to anything you ask while not looking up from her cell phone, because she's too busy doing something on Facebook. That's more than those losers who don't have girlfriends at all are getting.
Meanwhile, to keep your girlfriend, you have to keep her happy, entertained, and feeling special. That's a girlfriend's biggest complaint by the way: he never makes me feel special. You have to plan and execute an entertaining date at least once a week, buy her gifts, be smart and funny and at the top of your game, complement her often, and if you successfully make it through enough of her hoops, she might let you hold her hand for a little bit, or even give you a goodnight kiss. Keep up this great behavior long enough and maybe, just maybe, you guys can take it to the next level and she'll reward you with sex! But even if you never get there, it's a great reward just to have a girlfriend at all. Guys who don't have girlfriends are losers.
And that's how the others would prefer the game is played. Jump through hoops, do what you're supposed to do, be entertaining for girls, sacrifice left and right giving them whatever they want in a desperate attempt to make them happy, as the bare minimum just to get a woman to spend time with you. Forget sex. Just having a woman in your life is considered a great prize for which you must sacrifice heavily. A man should be lucky he had a woman agree to this! A woman who will put up with him? That's a rare find! He'the better work hard to keep her happy.
We know how this story ends. A man who spends his life searching for a woman he can sacrifice for ends up getting his wish. He sacrifices everything and becomes an empty shell, all for the joy of having a woman grudgingly spend time with him, hoping that maybe, just maybe, if he sacrifices a little bit more and works a little bit harder, she might even let him touch her. Oh, sure, that guy is still screening women somewhat. He won't date just anybody. But his perspective is that of the supplicant. He's searching the world for a woman he wants to work for. A woman worthy of his hard work and sacrifice, so that he may give it to her, impress her with it, and maybe one day get to hold her hand.
That's the true measure of love. How much you're willing to sacrifice for someone. And men across the world leap at the chance to demonstrate their love for their women by sacrificing.
But wait. If the true measure of love is how much someone is willing to sacrifice for someone else, what's up with all of these women who aren't doing a damn thing, except spending time with their men? Surely, a woman's love is measured differently then, right? We don't ask a woman to sacrifice. It's her willingness to accept a man's sacrifice that demonstrates her love, right?
Wrong. Women show their love the same damn way. When a woman loves a man, she sacrifices for him. She does things for him. She buys him things. She begs to fuck him.
If your woman is not sacrificing for you, eagerly, in an attempt to please you, impress you, and keep you happy, guess who doesn't love you?
The Red Pill is a shift in our perspective. Cast off the old system. The goal is not to find a woman worth sacrificing for. That's the old you. The loser you. The goal is to find a woman who will sacrifice for you. And to do this, you become the kind of man women will want to sacrifice for. You're not searching for the right woman. You're searching for the right you.
If you build the right you, women will be bending over backward trying to please you, just for the pleasure of your time, and maybe, just maybe, you can reward the best few whose sacrifices please you the most with a good, hard fucking.
[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/31mtcd/never_sacrifice_a_thing_make_her_sacrifice_for_you/?[/URL]
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Final Post for the Weekend
This post is basically the foundation of ISG and how we found ourselves here in this forum:
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[B]Why you should fuck an escort, at least once[/B]
By NPIF (TRP)
One of the greatest challenges to newcomers still swallowing the pill is the realization that women are not delicate creatures that need protecting. The propaganda has been strong. Constant - unending. That women are damsels in distress; that they need us to protect them; and that being the white knight in shining armour will grant us their love and adoration.
It's a dream we're fed since the time we are children to the days of our adulthood. Rom-coms will tell us the nice, funny, charming guy will always get the girl. Our female friends will reassure us that "women want a nice guy", or that "you just haven't met the right girl yet." It's an agonizing pain of involuntary lovelessness. The beta mindset continuously fed by re-application of tired and useless techniques. "Maybe if I do this for her" eventually becomes "Why doesn't she love me?"
And then you discover the pill. You don't want to believe it but something tells you there's truth here. That if women do want the nice guy, why are they so duplicitous with their behaviour? Why do they chase the rich guys, the stud guys, the bad boys who treat them like shit? [B]Because they get something out of the relationship[/B]. This is the key to understanding a woman's actions. There is always an exchange of some kind, because her love does not come free. You must play a role; provide a purpose, for her presence.
If you're rich, you provide financial satisfaction. If she fucks you, you'll buy her shit. If you'are athletic and / or attractive in any way relating to social SMV, you provide her an image boost. She is with a hot guy.
Providing for her desires. Her satisfaction. All the things you need to give her or do for her which suck away your time, energy, and money. These are the reasons you may idolize the pussy. Because you have to put so much fucking work into getting it.
Now take all of this away.
What if you didn't have to do any of that work? Didn't have to focus on a woman's needs or desires at all, and still get what you want from her? What if you had the choice of what girl to fuck? How to fuck? What if you had complete control over a sexual interaction without having to do a fucking thing for a b!tch once in your life?
I'll tell you what happens. [B]You take the pussy off the fucking pedestal[/B]. Because now you know that pussy is worth about $100, and you can literally get it any time you want from hotter bitches than the one you're chatting up right now in the bar.
Now I'm not advocating giving up on learning game and how to meet and pick up women organically. In fact, you should do that infinitely more often than you should fuck escorts. But every now and then, maybe just as a reminder when the oneitis creeps in, or the beta starts to resurface, you fuck a ***** who you don't have to call the next day. Just as a reminder that pussy is cheap and plentiful. So that makes you the prize that's worth winning.
[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2lxgp5/why_you_should_fuck_an_escort_at_least_once/?[/URL]
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1760591 Ya, I know what you mean. Ten years or so ago I dated an AW who told me I should ADORE her. And she was SERIOUS. We dated on and off for two years only because I was addicted to her humongous tits. These days I just p4 p. It's a lot cheaper and not emotionally draining.
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The Saga Continues (POF Chick)
See attached photos of the conversation below (my responses are in blue). Just goes to show you how entitled this AW broads feel. She clearly was insulted that I suggest we go dutch, but I swatted away her shit tests like Dikembe Mutombo. "Ah, ah, ah, not in my house bish!"
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1760648]See attached photos of the conversation below (my responses are in blue). Just goes to show you how entitled this AW broads feel. She clearly was insulted that I suggest we go dutch, but I swatted away her shit tests like Dikembe Mutombo. "Ah, ah, ah, not in my house bish!"[/QUOTE]So, the suspense is killing us. How did the rest of the conversation go? What did she say next?
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1760648]See attached photos of the conversation below (my responses are in blue). Just goes to show you how entitled this AW broads feel. She clearly was insulted that I suggest we go dutch, but I swatted away her shit tests like Dikembe Mutombo. "Ah, ah, ah, not in my house bish!"[/QUOTE]American women have a bad rep, especially if you compare them worldwide. However, I think we should be careful trying to agree amongst ourselves. After all, this forum doesn't contain a diverse demographic.
I have lived, worked and vacationed in many countries. However shitty the ROI, most women would feel the same way in splitting a check. Most men wouldn't let the women split the check.
You want a prostitute, then you pay for their time fucking you. You want a relationship, then ROI doesn't apply. Believe it or not, not everyone is jaded, not everyone is bad. Your sole aim is not sex in a relationship. Her sole aim is not money in relationship.
I find it funny that a lot of members complain American women are fat and ugly when they don't look at themselves in the mirror. Most men are as heavy or heavier, but yet somehow think they all deserve a supermodel. I'm not defending our women, I find the majority of them not attractive. Let's just be able to separate and make the distinction between women we pay to fulfill our desires and women we want to pursue a real meaningful relationship with. I'm afraid a lot of us are mired and blend the two together (or too jaded to see it).
Monger on.
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[QUOTE=AZNMonger;1760663]American women have a bad rep, especially if you compare them worldwide. However, I think we should be careful trying to agree amongst ourselves. After all, this forum doesn't contain a diverse demographic.
I have lived, worked and vacationed in many countries. However shitty the ROI, most women would feel the same way in splitting a check. Most men wouldn't let the women split the check.
You want a prostitute, then you pay for their time fucking you. You want a relationship, then ROI doesn't apply. Believe it or not, not everyone is jaded, not everyone is bad. Your sole aim is not sex in a relationship. Her sole aim is not money in relationship.
I find it funny that a lot of members complain American women are fat and ugly when they don't look at themselves in the mirror. Most men are as heavy or heavier, but yet somehow think they all deserve a supermodel. I'm not defending our women, I find the majority of them not attractive. Let's just be able to separate and make the distinction between women we pay to fulfill our desires and women we want to pursue a real meaningful relationship with. I'm afraid a lot of us are mired and blend the two together (or too jaded to see it).
Monger on.[/QUOTE]American Women have the rep that they earned. I personnally don't find a 50 something fat chick with a I'm a queen complex attractive, regardless of my weight or age.
But if you feel differently good. Grab you one, settle down and you will never have to monger again. Even when her fat ass refuses to fuck you for whatever stupid reason, remember to be understanding.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1760668]American Women have the rep that they earned. I personnally don't find a 50 something fat chick with a I'm a queen complex attractive, regardless of my weight or age.
But if you feel differently good. Grab you one, settle down and you will never have to monger again. Even when her fat ass refuses to fuck you for whatever stupid reason, remember to be understanding.[/QUOTE]You misread my message.
I never said I would find a woman with that description attractive. Do you think an 18 year old finds a mid-50's overweight man attractive? I don't know what your point is.
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[QUOTE=AZNMonger;1760663] I'm not defending our women, I find the majority of them not attractive. Let's just be able to separate and make the distinction between women we pay to fulfill our desires and women we want to pursue a real meaningful relationship with. I'm afraid a lot of us are mired and blend the two together (or too jaded to see it).[/QUOTE]I make it absolutely clear in my online profile that I am not looking for anything serious. Just someone to have fun with. None of these broads are relationship material and useful to me beyond a pump and dump.
It's really simple: men want sex from women; women want commitment from men. Women will trade sex for commitment and men will trade commitment for sex. It's the core of our being.
And no one here was talking about "women we pay", so not sure how you assume we have confused the two.
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[QUOTE=AZNMonger;1760690]You misread my message.
I never said I would find a woman with that description attractive. Do you think an 18 year old finds a mid-50's overweight man attractive? I don't know what your point is.[/QUOTE]My point is they have a bad rep because they earned it and if defending them is so important to you, you should get you one and live happily ever after.
By the way. I don't care what some 18 yr old thinks so long as she will fuck my brains out. That's all I would want from her anyway.
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You can't make this shit up!
Just goes to show you how entitled this AW broads feel. She clearly was insulted that I suggest we go dutch, but I swatted away her shit tests like Dikembe Mutombo. Ah, ah, ah, not in my house bish!
Wow, another "tough guy" who can't get laid without dead presidents. Your in the right thread.
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1761429]
Wow, another "tough guy" who can't get laid without dead presidents. Your in the right thread.[/QUOTE]Paying to get laid is the exact opposite of the situation he explained. The woman was "turned off" because he refused to pay for her. Savepros made it clear that they could meet and if they had sex it would be because of mutual attraction not because he spent money. You either can not read, do not speak English, or you like to imagine things the way you want them to be, to compensate for being a white knight.
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[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1761571]Paying to get laid is the exact opposite of the situation he explained. The woman was "turned off" because he refused to pay for her. Savepros made it clear that they could meet and if they had sex it would be because of mutual attraction not because he spent money. You either can not read, do not speak English, or you like to imagine things the way you want them to be, to compensate for being a white knight.[/QUOTE]He's also misguided enough to believe that he isn't paying for it one way or another.
I say that because if he's getting so much free ass, wtf is he doing here.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1761575]He's also misguided enough to believe that he isn't paying for it one way or another.
I say that because if he's getting so much free ass, wtf is he doing here.[/QUOTE]There is a huge difference between taking someone out on a date and P4P. Most do not consider spending $20 to have company while dinning paying for sex. And yes for a 1st date, you can spend only $20. Make it a lunch date, Go to a place like Friday's, Chi chi's, there are many places w / under $20 meals. Hell meet at a coffee shop and spend less than $10. You are paying for their company and conversation.
Using that logic when guys buy beers for buddies. It should be considered buying friendships. But you don't hear guys saying that. But P4P guys always have to go with theoretical logic to justify their need to out right pay for sex. Only they say that same old tired line. You pay for sex one way or another. Its a silly notion used to justify P4P. Save-a-Pro has an approach, his choice. He doesn't want to spend any money on a date, But to say it would have been paying for sex is ridiculous, it's paying to have company at a meal. I'm sure eventually he'll find a woman that will go for that approach. If he feels stroking with his hand in the mean time is a better option. I'm happy for him. I don't think he'll convince many outside of the few AW haters on this thread, that's a better option though.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1761586]There is a huge difference between taking someone out on a date and P4P. Most do not consider spending $20 to have company while dinning paying for sex. And yes for a 1st date, you can spend only $20. Make it a lunch date, Go to a place like Friday's, Chi chi's, there are many places w / under $20 meals. Hell meet at a coffee shop and spend less than $10. You are paying for their company and conversation.
Using that logic when guys buy beers for buddies. It should be considered buying friendships. But you don't hear guys saying that. But P4P guys always have to go with theoretical logic to justify their need to out right pay for sex. Only they say that same old tired line. You pay for sex one way or another. Its a silly notion used to justify P4P. Save-a-Pro has an approach, his choice. He doesn't want to spend any money on a date, But to say it would have been paying for sex is ridiculous, it's paying to have company at a meal. I'm sure eventually he'll find a woman that will go for that approach. If he feels stroking with his hand in the mean time is a better option. I'm happy for him. I don't think he'll convince many outside of the few AW haters on this thread, that's a better option though.[/QUOTE]What you don't get is why do you have to pay anything if they like you. Especially since most men and women don't stop at coffee date. It goes to dinner amd more.
I have come to the conclusion that you are either female, Gay or worse a feminist man. All is ok with me but I still don't understand why you are here. I am headed back to Thailand in a few weeks. Luckily I don't have to live here in the USA. If you are ever there drop me a message. I may say lets have a drink or I may say go fuck yourself. Either way as a man you should be used to the rejection. But here right now I will let you have the last word because the three species I mentioned always wants it.
Enjoy the life.
Tell.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1761647]What you don't get is why do you have to pay anything if they like you. [/QUOTE]For a woman, liking a guy and wanting to fuck him are two different things. Most women do not want to fuck a guy upon the 1st meeting unless he's a Brad Pitt model type or undeniably Rich. Women know they can get dick anywhere, anytime. There are guys that will fuck anything so for a woman they have the advantage of limiting who they fuck to only those they really have some type of feelings. Therefore they want at least time to make that assessment. 20 yr old don't expect dinner because they know guys their age don't have funds. But a woman wants to see what type of man they are dealing with. Why should a woman fuck a poor, broke ass man when she can just as easily find one w / a job. Especially if he isn't a 10. Now if you're a 10 then I can see you complaining. But if you're just avg why should she just fuck you at sight, when she can get avg dick all day long. Women have that advantage. What makes you special. That's reality. Deal with it.
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After reading this thread I actually tried POF. It's a gold mine. Immediately got responses. Met one for an afternoon date at Chilli's. Set me back a whole $11.95 . A few more phone calls and she comes over. Drank some wine a little cheese and crackers. Bam. She was on the dickhead like a mouse on cheese. Sunday she's coming over for DVD, popcorn w / some dick for dessert. How was your week.
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Well, good luck with THAT, ThatGuy. You and the POF (putrid old fuck) blimpie are probably made for each other. Make sure you watch some chick flick and be prepared to have her cut your balls off.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1764075]After reading this thread I actually tried POF. It's a gold mine. Immediately got responses. Met one for an afternoon date at Chilli's. Set me back a whole $11.95 . A few more phone calls and she comes over. Drank some wine a little cheese and crackers. Bam. She was on the dickhead like a mouse on cheese. Sunday she's coming over for DVD, popcorn w / some dick for dessert. How was your week.[/QUOTE].
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1764283]It's settled. ThatGuy is a chick. Only chicks talk like that.
The jig is up, ThatGurl865. Stop trolling us and go back to Pop Sugar or some shit.[/QUOTE]That's certainly my suspicion too. Thus, I started in with the "ThatGirl" moniker. There have been many things posted here by this person that lead me to strongly suspect it's a woman with nothing better to do with her time than trolling mongers.
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The belief that men and women are equal is incompatible with the idea that a man must pay for a woman's meals and entertainment on a date. If the woman expects compensation in the form of free meals, drinks and entertainment in return for showing up to evaluate if the man is worth fucking, that means she considers the man to have less intrinsic value based solely on his gender. They're not coming to the tables as equals and the man is a supplicant pleading his case as to why he should get some pussy. He is paying for his own job interview with the woman so she can decide if she will make him pay much more. She has her list of qualifications he must meet like wealth, education, nice car, house, etc. The truth is that a woman like that isn't interested in men. She is interested in what resources they can offer her in return for pussy access. In that case, the man would be better off cutting out the overhead of a date and going straight to negotiating the price of her pussy.
In Sweden, gender equality is not just preached. It's practiced. An American woman dating in Sweden would hate it because Swedish men would not be picking up the bill for her meals, drinks and entertainment. They're also not big on asking for a woman's number or calling her up after a night of hot stank fucking to soothe her insecurities on where things are going, or not going.
American women pay lip service to the idea of gender equality. In reality, they want to be above men in relationships. This is the real reason they say that men and women are equal but still expect the man to pick up their bill and follow the rules of ancient chivalry. The truth is most of these women cannot past the same financial scrutiny they apply to men. Their finances are a mess and they're debt ridden from spending more than they earn. It's no secret that women account for most of the spending on consumer goods in America.
Some guys will still choose to participate in this ridiculous dating system. After all, people do things that they know are bad for them like smoking, drinking alcohol or snorting cocaine. As for Plenty-of-Fish, I know a coworker making over six figures who is a member. He would recount his dates to me back at the office. They all involved low quality women using him for free meals, drinks and entertainment. He never got any pussy. In fact, the only thing that got banged one night was the rental car. One of his POF dates had a jealous ex-husband who kicked in the back panel.
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1764391]Some guys will still choose to participate in this ridiculous dating system. After all, people do things that they know are bad for them like smoking, drinking alcohol or snorting cocaine. As for Plenty-of-Fish, I know a coworker making over six figures who is a member. He would recount his dates to me back at the office. They all involved low quality women using him for free meals, drinks and entertainment. He never got any pussy. In fact, the only thing that got banged one night was the rental car. One of his POF dates had a jealous ex-husband who kicked in the back panel.[/QUOTE]They don't have a clue as to what's really on the other side of the oceans and borders. Especially Midwest men. They stick to the script. I cringe when I hear them talk about obeying the wife, and giving all the check to her. They buy into the Christian right dogma of love the flag, mom and apple pie. This shit is constantly on TV. The fake fluff being broadcast in every home has shaped this mindset. TV shows of pussy whipped family men (Mike and Molly, Loves Raymond), commercials selling products to women by showing a man as incapable of doing anything).
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Ya, it's true. I am from there and don't dare say anything to my married relatives about my exploits and lifestyle. It would surely cause divorce and alienation from me. [QUOTE=Naked Gunz They don't have a clue as to what's really on the other side of the oceans and borders. Especially Midwest men.
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That is SavePros at 3:03...
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2mrI1QWWgzk[/URL]
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1761575]He's also misguided enough to believe that he isn't paying for it one way or another.
I say that because if he's getting so much free ass, wtf is he doing here.[/QUOTE]When it comes to AM discussions you seem to get caught up a little in your own head. Your posts in the Patts thread, to me, seem much clearer.
I monger for maybe one of the oldest reasons and one that, as a full time monger, you know well. I pay them to leave.
I have no problem getting AM. I've been a sex addict all my life (and that's not changing anytime soon) and that's the mission if you're an addict. To get sex. Period.
Now, do I pay? Por supuesto! Everybody pays! A 9 dollar lunch is paying. Most people don't think of it that way and most men slough off the minor stuff but to the guy who doesn't have $9, its paying. Same as handing her pesos in Panama.
Sitting across from her holding a fake smile and remembering to laugh occasionally when your bored out of your fuking mind is paying. Having to swap texts, phone calls, listening to sick cat stories. All paying. Just with patience or time, etc.
We all pay somehow. Movie stars pay. Sure they get a lot of free sex but eventually the halo wears off and she wants more. Time to pay (with emotions, time, etc) or leave and its not always to extract yourself and somehow, someway you always pay.
Consider the old expression "show me a beautiful woman and somewhere there's a guy who's tired of fucking her". He's paying 'cause now he's stuck.
If you want to get laid you do what you have to. Period. You buy meals, call when you're supposed to and do all the other stupid shit required to get sex. It hasn't changed in 100 years. Men have always paid. Get over it.
Now, if this discussion is about what should be or what you want it to be or in this or that country or times past then that's a different discussion.
I still bang AM but I have money and now that I'm slightly older I have much less patience and value my time more and more so I pay in dollars more often than ever.
If you want sex, you're paying.
The difference is, just like the river doesn't complain about the rocks in its way, I don't whine about it. I get it done because after all we need the sex, no?
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1765823]When it comes to AM discussions you seem to get caught up a little in your own head. Your posts in the Patts thread, to me, seem much clearer.
I monger for maybe one of the oldest reasons and one that, as a full time monger, you know well. I pay them to leave.
I have no problem getting AM. I've been a sex addict all my life (and that's not changing anytime soon) and that's the mission if you're an addict. To get sex. Period.
Now, do I pay? Por supuesto! Everybody pays! A 9 dollar lunch is paying. Most people don't think of it that way and most men slough off the minor stuff but to the guy who doesn't have $9, its paying. Same as handing her pesos in Panama.
Sitting across from her holding a fake smile and remembering to laugh occasionally when your bored out of your fuking mind is paying. Having to swap texts, phone calls, listening to sick cat stories. All paying. Just with patience or time, etc.
We all pay somehow. Movie stars pay. Sure they get a lot of free sex but eventually the halo wears off and she wants more. Time to pay (with emotions, time, etc) or leave and its not always to extract yourself and somehow, someway you always pay.
Consider the old expression "show me a beautiful woman and somewhere there's a guy who's tired of fucking her". He's paying 'cause now he's stuck.
If you want to get laid you do what you have to. Period. You buy meals, call when you're supposed to and do all the other stupid shit required to get sex. It hasn't changed in 100 years. Men have always paid. Get over it.
Now, if this discussion is about what should be or what you want it to be or in this or that country or times past then that's a different discussion.
I still bang AM but I have money and now that I'm slightly older I have much less patience and value my time more and more so I pay in dollars more often than ever.
If you want sex, you're paying.
The difference is, just like the river doesn't complain about the rocks in its way, I don't whine about it. I get it done because after all we need the sex, no?[/QUOTE]Both my heads are fine as is what's in them, thank You.
I am not a sex addict like you so I am not driven by impulse. I just like young women other than AW's. I have money also and like you my time is more important to me. I could play the dating game but choose not to.
Since I am forced to pay for what I should be getting for free, I choose to do it on my own terms.
You enyoy your addiction, feed it and pay for it the way you see fit. I choose not to spend my time sitting across from some cow pretending she's interesting to get layed.
I'd rather spend the money for a hottie and be done with it.
You also made my point, there is no such thing as free.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1765832]Both my heads are fine as is what's in them, thank You.[/QUOTE]Impulse? I am anything but impulsive. And who are these cows you speak of? I've never fucked a cow. My AM are mostly the same as the Latins. Check my pics. And wouldn't you even concede that some might consider flying to third world or "developing countries", for no other reason but sex with young girls, an addiction?
And do you think you were the one who figured out it ain't free?
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1765823]Having to swap texts, phone calls, listening to sick cat stories. All paying. [/QUOTE]So I ask you then. When you talk with your guy friends. Are you paying to sit and talk w / guys. By your logic you guys are paying to read my text. Thanks by the way. Everything requires "time" so the word "Free" should not exist by your logic since it can never be achieved. It takes time to breath air. This is what I mean by a P4P person needing / using obscure abstract logic to justify their need to pay for sex. So a groupie give a rock star a quickie in the bathroom. He jumps on the tour bus, drives off never to see her again. Some how he paid uh? P4 P guys who spill this jiberish need to stroke their low self esteem to so they can think everyone has to pay.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1765741]That is SavePros at 3:03...
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2mrI1QWWgzk[/URL][/QUOTE]Except she wouldn't be in my car to begin with, hahaha. Not on a first date. Unless we already agreed that we are going back to my place and I am smashing that. At that point I'm good for getting her some grub on my dime. Wouldn't want her hunger getting in the way of her performance! 😝.
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1765843]Impulse? I am anything but impulsive. And who are these cows you speak of? I've never fucked a cow. My AM are mostly the same as the Latins. Check my pics. And wouldn't you even concede that some might consider flying to third world or "developing countries", for no other reason but sex with young girls, an addiction?
And do you think you were the one who figured out it ain't free?[/QUOTE]Sorry but I have known a lot of addicts and all of them would act impusively to feed their need. Be it Crack, Meth or Sex. But if you say you're different, that is between you and you Shrink.
I don't fly there just for the young women, I live there part time and have many other interest. Interest I have more time for since I don't have to play the dating game anymore.
Never said I was the one who figured it out that it wasn't free. Guys long before me figured that out. Thus our hobby.
Glad you are getting some hot women. I feel all men deserve that.
On a final note, I have a favor to ask?
Since the jig is up and we have figured out that ThatGurl865 is a woman, I would ask that you make contact with her and lay some pipe on her. That is one woman that is in dire need of a good fucking. Maybe afterwards she can stop lurking our board and do something constructive like sell Mary Kay.
Look at it as taking one for the team. You being a Sex Addict, any hole is a hole right? LOL.
Talk at you later.
Tell.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1766108]
On a final note, I have a favor to ask?
Since the jig is up and we have figured out that ThatGurl865 is a woman, I would ask that you make contact with her and lay some pipe on her. That is one woman that is in dire need of a good fucking. Maybe afterwards she can stop lurking our board and do something constructive like sell Mary Kay.
Look at it as taking one for the team. You being a Sex Addict, any hole is a hole right? LOL.
Tell.[/QUOTE]And sadly, that's exactly the unintelligent level of discourse we've come to expect from you and which contributes to undermine this thread.
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Modern Dating in USA
A few days ago I read a couple of article in the Washington Post about dating in the US. The author were reporting on some research done by someone (academics I think) regarding the demographics of college-educated men and women versus non-college-educated men and women. It is well-known that since the 1970's women have been attending and graduating from college in greater numbers than men. (There is sound logic for this.) Over the decades this has lead to a marked difference in the ratio of college-educated men to college-educated women. So based on the premise that women will never "marry down", the authors discuss how college-educated women behave when faced with a shortage of "suitable" men and faced with more intense competition for "suitable" men.
They looked at college campuses and compared colleges with a high ratio of women (57%) to those campuses with a lower ratio of women. They found that when there were more women, and therefore greater competition for men, women gave up sex faster and easier, referred to as a "hook-up culture". When there were fewer women, and therefore less competition for men, women played hard to get, referred to as a "romantic culture".
How many of us are college grads and have seen this type of behavior? For those who live outside the US, do you observe this in your countries?
I am a college grad and I have seen this. Women with college degrees throwing themselves at certain professional men and ignoring blue collar types. Though I am pretty sure these were marriage prospects and not casual sex partners.
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I don't get it. My cousin has his own plumbing business and my best friend has his own carpet cleaning business and they are both millionaires. I have an MBA and I am broke as a joke.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1767018]I don't get it. My cousin has his own plumbing business and my best friend has his own carpet cleaning business and they are both millionaires. I have an MBA and I am broke as a joke.[/QUOTE]People with specific skills are needed on a day to day basis (mechanic computer tech chef medical technicians etc.). An MBA is worthless unless YOU make into something by coming up with a business idea or network with the right people.
America needs to bring back trade schools.
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I have four college degrees and it never got me any pussy directly, but it did indirectly because I made money and that DID get me pussy :<)
I have spent ten of the past 12 years living outside the US and no woman has ever even asked me about my educational background. As far as AW are concerned, the more education they have, the more impossible they are to deal with.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1767018]I don't get it. My cousin has his own plumbing business and my best friend has his own carpet cleaning business and they are both millionaires. I have an MBA and I am broke as a joke.[/QUOTE]You need to read "The Millionaire Next Door" my friend.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1767048]I have four college degrees and it never got me any pussy directly, but it did indirectly because I made money and that DID get me pussy :<)
I have spent ten of the past 12 years living outside the US and no woman has ever even asked me about my educational background. As far as AW are concerned, the more education they have, the more impossible they are to deal with.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=George90;1766983]
I am a college grad and I have seen this. Women with college degrees throwing themselves at certain professional men and ignoring blue collar types. Though I am pretty sure these were marriage prospects and not casual sex partners.[/QUOTE]What you are witnessing is female Hypergamy and the 80/20 rule in effect. It states that 20% of the top men are fucking 80% of the women.
That is why visiting another country where our money goes further is attractive for the average Joe Schmuck Western male. You instantly go from "Donald Chump" to "Donald mutha-fuckin Trump" and are catapulted to the 20% top earner range in said country (ex. Dominican Republic, Philippines, etc.).
In America, anything less than $100 K / yr, hell, anything less than $400 K / yr is average to an American woman. They all want the NBA Ball Player, Doctor, Hollywood Actor, etc. , especially college educated women making greater than even $35 K / yr. A 6 female thinks she deserves a 10 male.
Here is an interesting post on TRP that delves further into the 80/20 rule and female Hypergamy:
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Women look at the top 20 percent of males and believe that everything about them is normal and fairly attainable for the other 80 percent of men. This seriously skews their perception of males and it skews their perception of what they should expect when dating.
This explains those "where have all the good men gone" articles.
The "good men" are where they always have been: outside of the top 20 percent of men. Now, I don't mean to say that the "good men" cannot be found in the top 20 percent but rather that these "good men" (in the female mind) constitute men who are willing to commit to women both financially and / or romantically and are not top 20 percent men who have a rotating harem of women engaging in sexual relations with them. These women cannot seem to get these top 20 percenters to commit to anything other than sex with them which makes them throw their hands up and ask "Where have all the good men gone? [b]If they are not frustrated over a lack of sexual and / or romantic commitment then they get frustrated over the 80 percent of men whom they do not find desirable sexually, who won't "get their shit together" and "man up" (this translates to 'make good money and marry me in my thirties') and then they find themselves stuck between the rock and a hard place that is being a top 20 percenter's booty call / mistress or being the taken care of wife of an 80 percenter who cannot make them as sexually aroused as a 20 percenter can.[/b]
[b][red]What this situation tends to lead to is a situation where these frustrated women would rather be a part of what is known as a "soft harem" in which multiple women are having sex with one top 20 percent man while either abstaining from relationships of any sort with 80 percent men, having sex with both 20 and 80 percent men with only the former being aware of this, or being in a poor or non-sexual relationship with an 80 percent man while being sexually active with a 20 percent man without the former knowing about it.[/red][/b] The idea of women preferring to share a top 20 percent man without commitment rather than devoting themselves sexually to an 80 percent man was discussed in writer Kate Bolick's (featured in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Atlantic, Elle Magazine, etc.) very well-known and discussed article titled All The Single Ladies in The Atlantic magazine. The article is a very good read and the relevant passage regarding the "soft harem" is below. The idea of the "soft harem" was actually an idea developed by a former female management consultant who spoke to Bolick about female sexuality and modern day dating / relationships concerning young women.
Last year, a former management consultant named Susan Walsh tried to dig a little deeper. She applied what economists call the Pareto principlethe idea that for many events, roughly 20 percent of the causes create 80 percent of the effects to the college dating market, and [b]concluded that only 20 percent of the men (those considered to have the highest status) are having 80 percent of the sex, with only 20 percent of the women (those with the greatest sexual willingness); the remaining 80 percent, male and female, sit out the hookup dance altogether.[/b] (Surprisingly, a 2007 study commissioned by the Justice Department suggested that male virgins outnumber female virgins on campus.) As Walsh puts it, most of the leftover men are "have nots" in terms of access to sex, and most of the women, both those who are hooking up and those who are not, are "have nots" in terms of access to male attention that leads to commitment.
Link to post: [URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2u8hr5/the_following_comment_was_upvoted_to_1000_in/?[/URL].
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1767048]I have four college degrees and it never got me any pussy directly, but it did indirectly because I made money and that DID get me pussy :<)
I have spent ten of the past 12 years living outside the US and no woman has ever even asked me about my educational background. As far as AW are concerned, the more education they have, the more impossible they are to deal with.[/QUOTE]All the more reason to kiss the Ass of the Wright Brothers for creating the airplane.
Wheels up in 17 days.
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Ya but you still manage to get around, Mr. E.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1767018]I don't get it. My cousin has his own plumbing business and my best friend has his own carpet cleaning business and they are both millionaires. I have an MBA and I am broke as a joke.[/QUOTE].
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If you check the USA Bureau of Labor Statistics you will learn that the higher the degree the more money you are likely to make. Of course, there are many exceptions. But to have TIME OFF plus decent income now that is a winning combination!
[QUOTE=Artisttyp;1767027]People with specific skills are needed on a day to day basis (mechanic computer tech chef medical technicians etc.). An MBA is worthless unless YOU make into something by coming up with a business idea or network with the right people.
America needs to bring back trade schools.[/QUOTE].
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[QUOTE=DCups;1767127]If you check the USA Bureau of Labor Statistics you will learn that the higher the degree the more money you are likely to make. Of course, there are many exceptions. But to have TIME OFF plus decent income now that is a winning combination!
.[/QUOTE]Hence the profession we both chose, which must remain secret.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1767018]I don't get it. My cousin has his own plumbing business and my best friend has his own carpet cleaning business and they are both millionaires. I have an MBA and I am broke as a joke.[/QUOTE]I bounce back and forth between contracting overseas and merchant mariner. No degree! Both very lucrative with tons of time off and I NEVER come back to the states. Why the phuck for? Divorced, grown kid, and all my shyte in storage. Bang hotties half my age. I am stuck in PNW temporarily for school, but get back to the fun later.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1767018]I don't get it. My cousin has his own plumbing business and my best friend has his own carpet cleaning business and they are both millionaires. I have an MBA and I am broke as a joke.[/QUOTE]Supply and Demand!
More plumbers and carpet cleaners are needed than are available, hence the price of their services is bid up. With an MBA you are far less broke than a lawyer! There are so many lawyers without jobs these days, that some law schools may close.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1767048]I have four college degrees and it never got me any pussy directly, but it did indirectly because I made money and that DID get me pussy :<)
I have spent ten of the past 12 years living outside the US and no woman has ever even asked me about my educational background. As far as AW are concerned, the more education they have, the more impossible they are to deal with.[/QUOTE]The article claimed that, in addition to money and opportunity, college-educated women want college-educated men so they can engage in "high-minded" conversation. If a woman finds that you can converse with her well enough, she will assume you have at least some formal education.
I agree that the more educated AW make us men jump through more and higher hoops. I will say that some uneducated women are no easier to deal with. I remember dating a Colombiana who had some computer training but no degree. After she got more confidence with me, it was old wives' tale after old wives' tale, superstition after superstition, illogic after illogic. There was no way a 'modern' man could develop a serious relationship with her.
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I did some reading on SavePro's 'Soft Harem'. Some interesting stuff. I think many of us already do it to some extent, if we have regular full- or semi-pros that we visit. It is certainly NOT something I would try in the US or Europe. The drama of AWs and the fallout from US society would make it a disaster. It might work if a man goes ex-pat.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1767048]I have spent ten of the past 12 years living outside the US and no woman has ever even asked me about my educational background.[/QUOTE]That is because those are young people's problems. In my country, when you are in your 20's and early 30's men and women are inclined to try to meet someone with advanced education. The reasoning behind this is that they think they will have more money to afford more shit for themselves and for the kids that they may have together. I remember going to my grad school orientation and the guy asked like 5 people to stand up and say why they decided to pursue an MBA. They gave the usual rhetoric of wanting to educate themselves and expand their knowledge or whatnot. After they finished he said, "Bullshit. MBA stands for More Bank Account. You are here so you can make more money. ".
Thirteen years ago I had a girlfriend in the French Riviera, but she was of Italian background. Her idea was to get married and stay at home and raise the kids. Well I am American so my idea was to have a wife that works so we would have more money and could buy more stuff. Just because of that I broke up with her. A few years later when I was telling an Italian friend about it he said I was crazy. He said it was great to have a woman stay in the house and have your food ready when you got home and yada yada. It was my bad because I was in my late 20's and focused on the American idea of how it was supposed to be.
Now that I am 43 and my child is grown and all my shit is paid for and I have money, and I'm not in the market to accumulate more "stuff", I could care less about a woman's educational background and that she will bring in plenty of money. I'm just happy with a woman or women whose company I enjoy and who will love me for me.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1767521]A few years later when I was telling an Italian friend about it he said I was crazy. He said it was great to have a woman stay in the house and have your food ready when you got home and yada yada.[/QUOTE]Yeah, well, maybe if I ever find a woman who is as good of a cook as I am, I would feel differently (I was a professional cook for 8 years). I am in Italy right now and those guys are not too domestic to say the least. I was talking with my Italian landlord and he could not show me how to use the washing machine in the apartment and said he had never done laundry or washed a dish in his life, and he is SINGLE. His maid does all that shit, comes in twice a week, and he leaves three or four days' worth of dirty, crusty dishes for her. I don't go to bed with dirty dishes in the sink. Fuck that.
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[QUOTE=George90;1767491]I did some reading on SavePro's 'Soft Harem'. Some interesting stuff. I think many of us already do it to some extent, if we have regular full- or semi-pros that we visit. It is certainly NOT something I would try in the US or Europe. The drama of AWs and the fallout from US society would make it a disaster. It might work if a man goes ex-pat.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the only way that would work in the US is if you were a young Brad Pitt, or filthy fucking rich. AW's have the best game going this side of the hemisphere. Could you imagine if prostitution was 100% legal in the US? The perceived value of pussy in the US would plummet so fast it would make your head spin.
The current setup is men trading commitment for sex from women, and women trading sex for commitment from men. If you trade your commitment, and your woman decides she wants to withhold sex from you because you refused to by that spoiled brat that Gucci bag she was eying at the mall earlier, then guess who's jerking off in the shower tonight?
When men can trade money for sex and walk away without any commitment, women have nothing to hold over you. You're wife doesn't want to give you a blow job tonight? Fuck you, I'll just go down to the local brothel or casa and get it from an 18 yr old who needs money for tuition and books.
Props to all of you guys who were able to get the fuck out of sex prison. I'll admit I fell off the wagon for a bit (altering my lifestyle to try to impress these vapid AW h0es), and I need to refocus my efforts and do what I said I will do: work towards getting the fuck out of here pronto!
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Don't Date
Just wanted to share this comment I just read on TRP. This describes exactly how I have started dealing with AW's lately (see the post I did about the byatch that got offended that I told her any dinner dates would be "Dutch"):
[I]"The "dating" advice to take away from this is: don't "date".
Currently [b]any activity that requires paying for an activity to do together I use only as a reward for women I am already fucking.[/b] If you build yourself up enough (preselection, lifting etc) and run enough Game the average girl is going to be down with "hanging out", and that leads to easy and cheap sex.
Then you can use "dates" like ice cream or movies to solidify them as plates.
Basically if women are screening for lovers vs providers then the goal is to provide as little as possible before you get her love. Then use providership sparingly to promote good behavior. And dick her down well enough that she'll change her mind and start paying for some of those dates anyways."[/I]
FYI, a "Plate" in manosphere terminology is a chick who is one just one of a handful of chicks you are banging. It comes from the term "spinning plates" (yes, like the guy at the carnival or circus who spins a bunch of plates at once and tries to keep them from falling to the ground).
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The "Soft Harem" is a risky strategy to pursue in the West because Western women are likely to violently object to being rotated as booty calls, unless the harem master is a celebrity. If he is a celebrity then the women would agree to such an arrangement because it would bring them some fame / notoriety and, more importantly, it provides them an opportunity to get pregnant and put his ass on child support for millions of dollars. Every fuck with the celebrity harem master would be like getting a free lotto ticket for a chance at the Powerball jackpot but with much better odds at winning.
Even casual sexual relations can have negative outcomes if one of the women being rotated feels slighted or deceived in some way and reacts violently. Once it goes bad the harem master may regret whatever sex he got out of the arrangement. He may very well find himself being battered or accused of domestic violence. Anyone with doubts about this should take a look at this video showing how it usually works out for the man: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G5ziHff5Ek[/URL].
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I think this KY county clerk Kim Davis is a fine example of an AW. A fat, ignorant, inbred redneck who managed to get three idiots to marry her, including the same guy twice, while sucking at the public tit to the tune of $80 k per year, while flatly refusing to do her job.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1767606]When men can trade money for sex and walk away without any commitment, women have nothing to hold over you. You're wife doesn't want to give you a blow job tonight? Fuck you, I'll just go down to the local brothel or casa and get it from an 18 yr old who needs money for tuition and books. [/QUOTE]Jeez that would be so great. A man can only dream. After a year of being locked up in sex prison to attend school, am up for parole and looking at a release date this year or early next.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;1769330]I think this KY county clerk Kim Davis is a fine example of an AW. A fat, ignorant, inbred redneck who managed to get three idiots to marry her, including the same guy twice, while sucking at the public tit to the tune of $80 k per year, while flatly refusing to do her job.[/QUOTE]Well said. A perfect example of religion freaks that insist on shoving their beliefs down your throat until you puke.
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It is truly over pal. You have not been relevent since your 70's era tv show. You have been busted for DUI at least twice. Your on your third divorce, and kissing the ass of a fat GF who will gladly take what's left after she dumps you for what ever is left (because you will marry her, its only the right thing to do DUHH) which will not be much, but she is a vulture that sees a little bit meat on the bone.
You are truly the dumbest white celebrity in a country that adores white celebrity! You will need to know how to push a broom, flip a burger, or push the shopping carts back to the store. Your a dumbass piece of shit who I watched at age 12. At 56, I puke at your ignorance. A simple mindless stock account investments in 1972 would have guarenteed your future for life, but your the piece of shit that knows it all in Hollywood. FUCK YOU dumb piece of shit David Cassidy! Your the quintessential American dumbass man, and you have given it all to the byitch dogs in court. Your house got sold in bankruptcy. And the new GF is sitting there while he is going thru divorce from the wife. What sackless MF that says he is so much stronger because of the new GF! What a piece of shit you are. You need to die.
Look at this assholes pathetic life: [URL]https://homes.yahoo.com/blogs/spaces/david-cassidy-home-bankruptcy-auction--1-8-million-191706196.html[/URL].
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Another dillusional woman
You guys are going to love this. This at best very average chick saying her hotness is a curse.
[URL]http://www.cosmopolitan.com/lifestyle/a45917/people-judge-me-because-im-pretty/[/URL]
Additional pics: You got to love those bulging bug eyes.
[URL]http://i.imgur.com/fdl3l5p.jpg[/URL]
[URL]http://i.imgur.com/LWd22Pd.jpg[/URL]
[URL]https://classandthecity.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/10981656_598720383497754_4989796065282029624_n.jpg[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Jwdub;1773080]You guys are going to love this. This at best very average chick saying her hotness is a curse.
[URL]http://www.cosmopolitan.com/lifestyle/a45917/people-judge-me-because-im-pretty/[/URL]
Additional pics: You got to love those bulging bug eyes.
[URL]http://i.imgur.com/fdl3l5p.jpg[/URL]
[URL]http://i.imgur.com/LWd22Pd.jpg[/URL]
[URL]https://classandthecity.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/10981656_598720383497754_4989796065282029624_n.jpg[/URL][/QUOTE]She thinks the way she does because weak ass American Men chase after her and feed her ego.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1773193]She thinks the way she does because weak ass American Men chase after her and feed her ego.[/QUOTE]The trouble with beauty is that it fades and all that is left is the biyotch. But then again maybe she will be open to a no-holes barred gang bang in a few years.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1773193]She thinks the way she does because weak ass American Men chase after her and feed her ego.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with some of this. A fat chick told me, if I wanted her to go to Vegas with me. She would only go if we stayed at the Bellagio or Venetian Hotels on the strip. The two most expensive places. What got me though is this chick was poor and would be lucky to afford a room at Motel 6 . But insisted on the most expensive hotels. She said she was used to being treated like a princess, limo's, VIP tables for dates. So we never made it to Vegas. But likewise. I met a babe who just after one lunch date. Blew, rimmed and fucked me all week. So both are out there. You just have to weed thru the bad apples.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1773576]I have to agree with some of this. A fat chick told me, if I wanted her to go to Vegas with me. She would only go if we stayed at the Bellagio or Venetian Hotels on the strip. The two most expensive places. What got me though is this chick was poor and would be lucky to afford a room at Motel 6 . But insisted on the most expensive hotels. She said she was used to being treated like a princess, limo's, VIP tables for dates. So we never made it to Vegas. But likewise. I met a babe who just after one lunch date. Blew, rimmed and fucked me all week. So both are out there. You just have to weed thru the bad apples.[/QUOTE]A Fat Bi**ch demanding Bellagio or the Venetian. She must think they have a free all you can eat buffet at those two places.
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1773576]A fat chick told me, if I wanted her to go to Vegas with me. She would only go if we stayed at the Bellagio or Venetian Hotels on the strip. The two most expensive places. What got me though is this chick was poor and would be lucky to afford a room at Motel 6 . But insisted on the most expensive hotels.[/QUOTE]Sweetheart, if you are paying then we can stay anywhere you want. Y'all have to learn how to deal with women.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1773786]Sweetheart, if you are paying then we can stay anywhere you want. Y'all have to learn how to deal with women.[/QUOTE]Some women with not much to offer financially do have a lot of nerve. I had one such woman ask me if I always flew first class and stayed only in 5-star hotels when I traveled. Now, these were things she never could afford herself and expected some man to cover for her. What a turn off! I dropped her post haste. She wasn't all that hot anyway with that distracting mole on her eyelid that I saw every time she blinked, which was often hahaha!
For the record, I always fly economy and stay in 3 to 4-star accommodations. That leaves more money for getting my nuts sucked when I'm finally on the ground in my desired destination LOL! First class is just too expensive and for rich folks, and I can't go lower than 3 stars on a hotel as I do require a certain level of creature comforts. A true 5-star hotel is too expensive, but I can handle 3 or 4 stars. So, me and that gold digger were doomed from the start. Was the right thing to do to kick her to the curb. Plus, there was that eyelid mole thing LOL!
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865;1773576]I have to agree with some of this. A fat chick told me, if I wanted her to go to Vegas with me. She would only go if we stayed at the Bellagio or Venetian Hotels on the strip. The two most expensive places. What got me though is this chick was poor and would be lucky to afford a room at Motel 6 . But insisted on the most expensive hotels. She said she was used to being treated like a princess, limo's, VIP tables for dates. So we never made it to Vegas. But likewise. I met a babe who just after one lunch date. Blew, rimmed and fucked me all week. So both are out there. You just have to weed thru the bad apples.[/QUOTE]Some women (Americans) have told me that the first type of woman (the materialistic one) make those kinds of demands intentionally and know the effect on men. According to the women who related this to me, when a woman is not interested in a man, rather than say so or make up some excuse, she plays the money / material card to turn the man off.
Many years ago, a woman from Africa told me that she and her female friends had a game they played with men. If a man asked one of them out on a date, she would invite her other friends along without telling him. If he went along with that, they then would see how much of his money they could make him spend on them.
We need to have a type of radar to avoid that type of woman in the first place and find the second type of woman in the post I quoted.
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While I do not condone [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] sex under any circumstances, I don't condone ANYONE having sex with THIS pig:
[URL]http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_28907381/colorado-springs-police-husband-wife-had-sex-14[/URL]
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1773193]She thinks the way she does because weak ass American Men chase after her and feed her ego.[/QUOTE]True she could also switch to being a hardcore Muslim and cover up, nobody would know how hot she was. No AW be*tch is going to do that, though a few actually have.
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End of Days
Behold! The modern day young American Woman, and all her vapidness:
[URL]http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/2015/10/01/14-416010-2015-09-30/web_cut/mlbtv_511523483_1200K.mp4[/URL]
I'm sure a lot of you MLB Fans have seen this vid already. How can you not conclude that we are in the last days after watching this?
The sports commentators make the vid all the more hilarious!
And hat tip to the chick wearing a Cardinals hat to a game where the Cardinals were no where in sight.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1781990]Behold! The modern day young American Woman, and all her vapidness:
[URL]http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/2015/10/01/14-416010-2015-09-30/web_cut/mlbtv_511523483_1200K.mp4[/URL]
I'm sure a lot of you MLB Fans have seen this vid already. How can you not conclude that we are in the last days after watching this?
The sports commentators make the vid all the more hilarious!
And hat tip to the chick wearing a Cardinals hat to a game where the Cardinals were no where in sight.[/QUOTE]I hate to say it but I am speechless. LOL. Could they be anymore self absorbed?
SP you are the man.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1781990]Behold! The modern day young American Woman, and all her vapidness:
[URL]http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/2015/10/01/14-416010-2015-09-30/web_cut/mlbtv_511523483_1200K.mp4[/URL]
I'm sure a lot of you MLB Fans have seen this vid already. How can you not conclude that we are in the last days after watching this?
The sports commentators make the vid all the more hilarious!
And hat tip to the chick wearing a Cardinals hat to a game where the Cardinals were no where in sight.[/QUOTE]My god, my generation is fucked! Good luck having an intelligent conversation with those chicks. But why am I surprised? I recently saw my sister and cousin's (11 and 10) instagram pages. We are quickly becoming vapid husks incapable of anything other than self worship.
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[QUOTE=George90;1774351]
Many years ago, a woman from Africa told me that she and her female friends had a game they played with men. If a man asked one of them out on a date, she would invite her other friends along without telling him. If he went along with that, they then would see how much of his money they could make him spend on them.
[/QUOTE]If this situation happened where they both showed up at a restaurant or something (y'all know me, I have a rule about not meeting or taking a byatch to a restaurant on a first date), I would just play stupid, yuck it up with them, enjoy my dinner.
Afterwards, I would excuse myself to the bathroom, use that time to find my waiter, tell him to tell those broads I had an emergency, pay him cash for my meal plus a nice tip for his troubles and understanding my dire situation, then split.
If those broads showed up without a dime to their name, then it wouldn't be my fault that they assumed I was picking up the bill for her and her moocher partner in crime.
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I have done this several time in many occasions. When I was a student and making only 7.50 $ an hour. I asked a girl out and she picked the most expensive restaurant.
She knew I am barely making through school, Anyhow we both ordered food, and when time for bill I asked waiter to split the cost, she was WTF you asked me out, I said then you should let me pick the place to eat as well.
80 $ ++ for total bill, I paid my 40+ tips and left.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1782116]If this situation happened where they both showed up at a restaurant or something (y'all know me, I have a rule about not meeting or taking a byatch to a restaurant on a first date), I would just play stupid, yuck it up with them, enjoy my dinner.
Afterwards, I would excuse myself to the bathroom, use that time to find my waiter, tell him to tell those broads I had an emergency, pay him cash for my meal plus a nice tip for his troubles and understanding my dire situation, then split.
If those broads showed up without a dime to their name, then it wouldn't be my fault that they assumed I was picking up the bill for her and her moocher partner in crime.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1782116]If this situation happened where they both showed up at a restaurant or something (y'all know me, I have a rule about not meeting or taking a byatch to a restaurant on a first date), I would just play stupid, yuck it up with them, enjoy my dinner.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQerxmkYYfY[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW04Fh_wMEQ[/URL].
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Reflection
I think we all have to face the mirror and ask whether we are "alpha" enough to be wanted and treated well by the opposite sex. Unfortunately. Nature, by way of the human subconscious. Is still the survival of the fittest. The beautiful, the crafty, the extremely intelligent. They will move forward. They will improve upon the next generation. What's left are god's mistakes. Let us accept this, let us embrace it.
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[QUOTE=ForShameFoEver;1785971]I think we all have to face the mirror and ask whether we are "alpha" enough to be wanted and treated well by the opposite sex. Unfortunately. Nature, by way of the human subconscious. Is still the survival of the fittest. The beautiful, the crafty, the extremely intelligent. They will move forward. They will improve upon the next generation. What's left are god's mistakes. Let us accept this, let us embrace it.[/QUOTE]No need to wax poetic here bro. Read the subtitle of this message board:
"Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac".
Money > Looks; All day, everyday. I'm positive you realize this hanging out in the PI and CTG. I don't think your "face the mirror" theme works for someone like Donald Trump and Ivanka Trump.
I'm not even sure most of what you wrote even applies to most of us here. I don't think anyone can argue that you inherintly have to be "crafty" or "extremely intelligent" to pull off mongering in another country.
And if you are smart enough to identify an opportunity to bang 18-19yr old, beautiful, fit chicks for less than $30 USD in some places with no strings attached, I'd say you're very intelligent in my book!
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Lamar Odom found unconscious at Nevada brothel
Did you guys hear about what happened to fellow monger Lamar Odom?
[URL]http://pagesix.com/2015/10/14/meet-the-ladies-who-found-lamar-odom-unconscious/[/URL]
The article mentions that he was taking an herbal substitute for Viagra. Not sure if that what caused him to get sick.
Or perhaps, he passed out when he got the bill.
What do you guys think of the hoes he picked? They look pretty average to me.
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Personally, I would fuck any random hooker before I would fuck at one of those legal brothels in NV. And, I would fuck at any one of those legal brothels before I would fuck trailer trash like Kim Kardashian. She is trying to make money off of him as I write this. I hope it all works out for him health wise. You know if he dies they will find opiates in his system and not just "herbal Viagra," whatever that is.
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[QUOTE=Ezinho;1787253]What do you guys think of the hoes he picked? They look pretty average to me.[/QUOTE]Everyone looks average without their hair and makeup done up.
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[QUOTE=Ezinho;1787253]Did you guys hear about what happened to fellow monger Lamar Odom?
[URL]http://pagesix.com/2015/10/14/meet-the-ladies-who-found-lamar-odom-unconscious/[/URL]
The article mentions that he was taking an herbal substitute for Viagra. Not sure if that what caused him to get sick.
Or perhaps, he passed out when he got the bill.
What do you guys think of the hoes he picked? They look pretty average to me.[/QUOTE]At least he is out getting layed and not playing the dating game, wasting time and money. More and more men are wising up and out living the life instead of self incarceration in sex prison. Hope he's back in the game soon.
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[QUOTE=Ezinho;1787253]Did you guys hear about what happened to fellow monger Lamar Odom?
[b]Or perhaps, he passed out when he got the bill.[/b]
What do you guys think of the hoes he picked? They look pretty average to me.[/QUOTE]I saw Dennis Hof on CNN this morning. They were interviewing him because Odom was at one of Hof's ranches. Hof said Odom arrived on Saturday via Hof's car service. (Odom was in Vegas and Hof sent a limo to pick him up and take him to the ranch.) It seems Odom had been doing cocaine in Vegas on Friday and earlier on Saturday. At the ranch, he drank cognac and took those herbal ED supplements. He stayed at the ranch Saturday night, all day Sunday, all day Monday, and Monday night.
[B]Hof said Odom paid the two ladies $75,000 (didn't say if each or total) for those 3 days.[/B]
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Broke!
[QUOTE=George90;1787624]I saw Dennis Hof on CNN this morning. They were interviewing him because Odom was at one of Hof's ranches. Hof said Odom arrived on Saturday via Hof's car service. (Odom was in Vegas and Hof sent a limo to pick him up and take him to the ranch.) It seems Odom had been doing cocaine in Vegas on Friday and earlier on Saturday. At the ranch, he drank cognac and took those herbal ED supplements. He stayed at the ranch Saturday night, all day Sunday, all day Monday, and Monday night.
[B]Hof said Odom paid the two ladies $75,000 (didn't say if each or total) for those 3 days.[/B][/QUOTE]News reports this evening say that he paid a total of $75,000. Is it any wonder why so many of these pro athletes end up broke?
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I went to one of those legal brothels in Nye County (prostitution is by county option in NV, and is illegal in Clark County, where Las Vegas is) once. All the women were ugly and they wanted $1,000. And that was 20 years ago!
WTF.
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3 photos
Pics from the 80's
These are pictures from my archives.
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[QUOTE=NoWahalla;1789882]These are pictures from my archives.[/QUOTE]And you are showing us these why?
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I think they are from NV legal brothels, which we were recently discussing.
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And you thought Lamar Odom's pussy was expensive:
[URL]http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29030700/denver-jury-awards-3-9m-former-stripper-who[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1792920]And you thought Lamar Odom's pussy was expensive:
[URL]http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29030700/denver-jury-awards-3-9m-former-stripper-who[/URL][/QUOTE]He is the dumbass. Why would you invest that much in a chick? And a dude who had money? WTF? If she does not want you anymore then you go get another one. You don't force yourself on her.
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And don't hire her for a regular job for chrissakes. Find, fuck, forget.
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Hey!
[QUOTE=Dickhead;1792973]And don't hire her for a regular job for chrissakes. Find, fuck, forget.[/QUOTE]You forgot feel and finger before you fuck and forget LOL!
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I saw the full documentary of Divorce Corp. All American men should look at it before they get married. The clips hit on some points including the worthlessness of pre-nups. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brznz2tif58&list=PLwSPy3vtsTi1D0rESwpbEYJJknq0HJJbt[/URL].
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1794676]I saw the full documentary of Divorce Corp. All American men should look at it before they get married. The clips hit on some points including the worthlessness of pre-nups. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brznz2tif58&list=PLwSPy3vtsTi1D0rESwpbEYJJknq0HJJbt[/URL].[/QUOTE]The film definitely fails to offer a balanced view of the system. If the film actually offered a more realistic and balanced view, it would likely sell less copies.
The film works its magic and throws meat to the lions by exaggerating and stretching the truth.
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A lawyer's view?
The only people who think that "Divorce Corp" fails to provide a "balanced" view of the system are the lawyers and others who benefit from this $50 billion-a-year industry. All the cases presented are real court cases. What can be more realistic than that? The number of copies sold does not change the fact that the divorce courts function in a manner that benefits the lawyers, judges, shrinks and others making a living off failed marriages more than the litigants and their children.
The goal of the documentary was to show the worst case scenarios of how marriage can end in the American court system. People should know the worst that can happen before making a decision to enter into marriage. The documentary even recommended premarital counseling and a waiting period for those contemplating marriage. There is nothing wrong with the documentary showing the financial ruin, loss of time with children, and threat of incarceration to enforce alimony and child support payments. Even cell phone service contracts disclose their early termination penalties on the contract that the customer signs.
The truth is marriage as it currently exists in America brings no benefits and significant risks and obligations to those with substantial assets and income. On the other hand, it benefits the poor because it allows them to qualify for more entitlements and tax credits. They have little to lose in divorce court. The lawyers get it over as quickly as possible because there is hardly any meat on poor bones to devour.
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1795447]The only people who think that "Divorce Corp" fails to provide a "balanced" view of the system are the lawyers and others who benefit from this $50 billion-a-year industry. All the cases presented are real court cases. What can be more realistic than that? The number of copies sold does not change the fact that the divorce courts function in a manner that benefits the lawyers, judges, shrinks and others making a living off failed marriages more than the litigants and their children.
The goal of the documentary was to show the worst case scenarios of how marriage can end in the American court system. People should know the worst that can happen before making a decision to enter into marriage. The documentary even recommended premarital counseling and a waiting period for those contemplating marriage. There is nothing wrong with the documentary showing the financial ruin, loss of time with children, and threat of incarceration to enforce alimony and child support payments. Even cell phone service contracts disclose their early termination penalties on the contract that the customer signs.
The truth is marriage as it currently exists in America brings no benefits and significant risks and obligations to those with substantial assets and income. On the other hand, it benefits the poor because it allows them to qualify for more entitlements and tax credits. They have little to lose in divorce court. The lawyers get it over as quickly as possible because there is hardly any meat on poor bones to devour.[/QUOTE]Just to be clear, I'm not saying that the film doesn't have any good points. Indeed, there is a lot of truth in the film, but it is certainly rather one-sided.
Here are some examples:
The film suggests that prenups are of little use and are not respected in courts. As one example of their limited usefulness, the film observes that one cannot agree to custody or child support in a prenup. Duh! Of course, you cannot agree to those things in a prenup. Every 1st year lawyer knows that, just in the same way one can't agree with one's wife that it's ok to beat one's children. Just because you can't legally agree to beating children in a prenup does not mean that prenups are worthless (as the film tends to suggest). Indeed, there are many valid, good reasons to have a prenup and many aspects of prenups which are indeed upheld with great predictability. In fact, in some states, a family court judge in a divorce does not even have the authority to touch a spouse's separate party (only their community property).
Divorces can indeed be expensive, but the film leaves out the possibilities for inexpensive divorces under the right circumstances. In my state for example, organizations exist that to assist spouses navigate the divorce system. Alternatives to litigation exist such as collaborative procedures that help spouses resolve disputes more efficiently. Yes, I agree that many divorces are needlessly costly, in many cases, due to inherent problems with our system, but again, the film endeavors to only tell one side of the story and fails to give a full, balanced picture.
We could go on and on, point by point through the entire film like this. My point is merely that the film is terribly one-sided, so much so, that it quickly loses its credibility right from the start.
But, yeah if you're involved in a contentious divorce that involves kids -- you're fucked -- in the bad way, not the good way. If you ever find yourself in this situation, you better do your darndest to tactfully navigate those waters, manage the emotions, carefully negotiate, judiciously resolve disputes, etc, etc. Do your best to be civil and to not to inflame emotions of your spouse, etc until after the divorce is complete. If you manage to enrage your spouse enough, she will always have the option of making you both lose in the divorce process, even if she does not end up "winning".
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1795976]Divorces can indeed be expensive, but the film leaves out the possibilities for inexpensive divorces under the right circumstances. In my state for example, organizations exist that to assist spouses navigate the divorce system. Alternatives to litigation exist such as collaborative procedures that help spouses resolve disputes more efficiently. Yes, I agree that many divorces are needlessly costly, in many cases, due to inherent problems with our system, but again, the film endeavors to only tell one side of the story and fails to give a full, balanced picture.[/QUOTE]Mine was not expensive. I think problems arise when bitterness, stubbornness, and greed come in to play on either side. I am a smart man. I have an MBA. So I did my own divorce. When I decided that I did not want to be married anymore me and my wife sat at the table to decide how we wanted to divide everything. (We did not have kids together, but if we had then I would have understood that my kids would have needed to be cared for had they stayed with her.) I drew everything up exactly as we had agreed at that kitchen table. When I sent it to her to sign she told me that she had showed it to a family friend and they said it was not legitimate. How the fuck can something that two parties agree upon not be legitimate?
My next step was to file the petition (same exact papers) with the clerk of the court and pay the money to get the sheriff's office to serve it. That is the only money I paid for my divorce. It was definitely under $100. When we arrived for our court date she had a lawyer that she had paid $1500 for. As UltraHappy alluded to, the last thing the court wants to do is litigate, so they give you one last chance at ADR (Alternative Dispute Resolution). They sent us into a room to try to work out a deal (as has happened with couple of other lawsuits that I have been involved in). She decided that she wanted more and I wanted to stick to the original agreement. Still in lieu of litigating, the judge decided to arbitrate the case in her quarters. We went back and the judge gave each of us 2 minutes to say why we should have what we were asking. The judge saw that she was just being bitter and decided to give me everything except the sofa, love seat, and washing machine. So she could have saved $1500 and gotten more stuff had she not tried to be greedy and stuck with the original agreement.
It is always better to try to work things out fairly among yourselves than to spend unnecessary money on lawyers and unnecessary time sending something through the judicial system. I never understand when people say they are in the process of a divorce. Hell all you have to do is draw up the paperwork and file it. Some places even have fill in the blank forms that you can use. If not, then go online and look for an example and type it up yourself. Also most jurisdictions have websites where you can go and they tell you the exact forms to fill out and exact process to follow.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1795989]Mine was not expensive. I think problems arise when bitterness, stubbornness, and greed come in to play on either side. I am a smart man. I have an MBA.
It is always better to try to work things out fairly among yourselves than to spend unnecessary money on lawyers and unnecessary time sending something through the judicial system. I never understand when people say they are in the process of a divorce. Hell all you have to do is draw up the paperwork and file it. Some places even have fill in the blank forms that you can use. If not, then go online and look for an example and type it up yourself. Also most jurisdictions have websites where you can go and they tell you the exact forms to fill out and exact process to follow.[/QUOTE]I agree with everything you said.
I would just add that in certain situations, it may make sense to seek experienced counsel. It's important for everyone to understand what they would be entitled to if judge were to order the split of property. In some cases, this isn't immediately obvious. For example, how much of your house does your wife get if you came into the marriage already owning 30% of the house with your separate property, but then paid another 40% of the house off with community property and during the marriage, the house appreciated in value by 17% and the house note still has $150,000 remaining to be paid off? (assuming you are in a community property state). Some states have detailed statutes regarding houses that already calculate all of this for you taking all of these variables into account in a fair equitable way for both spouses. If you are in one of those states, you better find and understand that equation because if you agree to something other than what that equation calculates for you, then you may have given up something that you are legally entitled to.
If one spouse owns and runs a business, that can be a fairly complicated valuation. Retirement and pension accounts can also complicate matters and have important tax consequences associated with them. Sometimes after a divorce, one spouse gets hit with a surprise tax liability because their divorce lawyer didn't understand the tax consequences of a particular property split.
So, yes, many times, two reasonable people ought to be able to come to a reasonable property split if they are able to be reasonable and civil with one another. Sometimes, things can get a bit tricky, depending on the assets and liabilities that the couple have accumulated over their marriage (and what they had before their marriage).
[U]Marriage Pro Tip 1[/U]
Student loans are particularly interesting creatures in divorces. Even if you had separate property student loans before you got married, there is no right of repayment if community property was used to pay off a portion of those student loans during marriage. In this way, student loans are treated differently than other debts. If you are in a marriage that you see going south in a community property state, increase your student loan payments to pay off your personal student loans quicker (for example, start making double or triple student loan payments). The net effect is that you are effectively using some of your spouse's income to pay off your student loans until someone eventually files for divorce. This is because of the special way that student loans are treated in divorce (in community property states). You come out a little ahead this way since the fact that you used community property to make those student loan payments is not later "used against you" in the divorce split because of the way student loans are treated. This quirk in the law regarding treatment of student loans in community property states is a sneaky gotcha item that you can exploit to your advantage if you know about it. The idea is that your spouse benefited from your higher education / earning potential, so hence the reasoning why student loans are treated differently. And, NEVER EVER pay off your personal student loans with your own separate property -- always use community property to pay off student loans!
[U]Marriage Pro Tip 2[/U]
If you live in a community property state and you had separate property before your marriage, be extra careful to not commingle that separate property with any community property. If you are unable to later establish that you kept your separate property truly separate and trace it back to its origin, then you won't be able to prove that it's your separate property and that untraceable property will be presumed to be community property.
[U]Marriage Pro Tip 3[/U]
You are better off keeping your separate property in a growth fund (not a dividend or income fund). The reason is that income / dividends from separate property are considered community property. Growth / appreciation in stock however is treated as separate property. So, let's say you come into a marriage with $100,000 separate property (or you inherit that amount during marriage). Put that shit in a growth stock fund (that is, a mutual fund that invests in stocks that don't pay out dividends but instead realize increases in value through appreciation in stock price). Then, tell your broker that you want any income / dividend payouts from that account (if any) to not be reinvested but instead to pay out into another account to prevent commingling.
[U]Marriage Pro Tip 4[/U]
I know lots of you will want to post Marriage Pro Tip 4: Don't get married in the first place, but it is unfortunately too late for many of our fellow forum readers.
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Useful
Finally some really useful info on classic divorce. I was not married, but owned a lot and had cash to use for a down payment on a house next door. 16 years later she got one lot and the house. I got two lots a workshop I paid for with cash and a small house. She got a home equity loan to pay the difference, but insisted it be $5000 less because she looked at a cardboard model of my shop and made comments, helping me design it. She can pity architect on her CV. We get along better. Both happy. Never calculated how much she cost per shag, BBBJ. Less than Elliot Spitzer paid per view.
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[URL]http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29140760/two-arrested-greeley-prostitution-sting?obref=obinsite[/URL]
Okay, so which of you guys has been fucking these two?
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This mf has no chill whatsoever. He is speaking the truth though.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PYy45RCFNQ[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1808075][URL]http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29140760/two-arrested-greeley-prostitution-sting?obref=obinsite[/URL]
Okay, so which of you guys has been fucking these two?[/QUOTE]WTF? Glad I'm no longer living in USA!
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Say Huh?
Legislator: Men must get wife's permission for Viagra prescriptions.
"I want to protect these men from themselves," said Rep. Mary Lou Marzian, who sponsored the bill.
[url]http://www.ajc.com/news/news/national/legislator-men-must-get-wifes-permission-viagra-pr/nqQGc/[/url]
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The Fiction about Superbowl as ground zero for [CodeWord908]
[URL]https://sexualintelligence.wordpress.com/2016/02/01/superbowl-ground-zero-for-sex-trafficking-super-nonsense/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1839088]Legislator: Men must get wife's permission for Viagra prescriptions.
"I want to protect these men from themselves," said Rep. Mary Lou Marzian, who sponsored the bill.
[url]http://www.ajc.com/news/news/national/legislator-men-must-get-wifes-permission-viagra-pr/nqQGc/[/url][/QUOTE]Feminists won't be happy until every man is castrated.
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These women are way out of line! Pretty soon US guys have to petition local courts for permission before they are allowed to fuck their wives.
Someone should propose a law to give husbands the rights to make their ugly and slutty wives wear stainless-steel chastity belts with husbands the only holders of keys that cannot be duplicated.
Some husbands may 'accidentally' lose the only keys for their ugly wives' belts. OOPS!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1839088]Legislator: Men must get wife's permission for Viagra prescriptions.
"I want to protect these men from themselves," said Rep. Mary Lou Marzian, who sponsored the bill.
[url]http://www.ajc.com/news/news/national/legislator-men-must-get-wifes-permission-viagra-pr/nqQGc/[/url][/QUOTE]
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Mongering in America
[URL]http://www.wbrz.com/news/ebrso-woman-stole-10-500-from-man-after-offering-him-sex-for-cash[/URL]
Baton Rouge. Sheriff's deputies say they arrested a woman accused of stealing more than $10,000 from a man after she offered to have sex with him in exchange for money.
22-year-old Brittany Scott was booked on charges of criminal conspiracy and felony theft after deputies arrested her Friday.
The victim contacted deputies to report that three females had come over to his house unannounced and arranged to have sex with him in exchange for $100. After the victim had undressed, one of the women went into his pants pocket and took the man's cash. She immediately ran out of the room with $10,500 the man had in his possession, according to EBRSO.
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The Rooster gets 40 years for sex trafficking
"El Gallo," whose nickname evokes the macho dominance of a farmyard fowl, had roosters tattooed on the bodies of some of the girls he romanced and then coerced into prostitution in nightclubs and cantinas around Houston. Witnesses told federal investigators he threatened to shoot them in the spine, so they'd have to drag themselves around for the rest of their days if they tried to escape. They said he told them he would kill their family members if they spoke about it.
[URL]http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/the-rooster-gets-40-years-for-sex-trafficking/ar-BBq9ciw?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=mailsignout[/URL]
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Show my tits? 55 Million please!
Erin Andrews poured on the tears in court and was awarded 55 million bucks. Think your tears will get 55 mill if somebody shows your balls online without permission?
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Dating in America
Getting ready to head back to the USA for a while so I thought I would check the dating websites to see what's out there.
This one women listed her 8 requirements a man needed to get her attention. Before that she stated she believed in more then the three date rule for her attention. In other words no sex any time soon.
One rule was you had to be God fearing and pray everyday blah blah blah.
Rule seven was you could not be so in debt that you couldn't afford the courtesies she expected from you. In other words MONEY.
Why do guys in the USA think they are not paying for it? Rather paying for it and not getting it.
I read this and ask myself, I am out of the USA and am getting 20's and 30's. They are hot and don't have all those rules.
Why would I put up with that to go out with a woman 48? If that is even her real age.
I feel sorry for the guys in sex prison back in my country. Hungry Dogs fighting for a possible scrap of meat left on a bone.
I am not a praying man but I am very thankful I don't have to be one of them.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1853240]Getting ready to head back to the USA for a while so I thought I would check the dating websites to see what's out there. This one women listed her 8 requirements a man needed to get her attention. Before that she stated she believed in more then the three date rule for her attention. In other words no sex any time soon. One rule was you had to be God fearing and pray everyday blah blah blah.
[/QUOTE]Unless your DiCaprio pickings are slim. It's even worse for me, I'm Black and Black women on those sites are waaay overweight and absolutely live in church! As a brother I'm expected to tow the line and take it as is because she will not stop eating and not stop praying. You will probably get cut if you even THINK about a treadmill! If the chick looks hallway decent on the site she is getting bombarded with emails from all the pervs or ass kissers promising the world. Good luck with that TA.
I mongered in Nairobi last week, and now I'm in Pattaya. In Nairobi, it was great to have 20's women fall all over me as a fifty something man in decent shape. I even had two rather loudly threaten to kill each other in a very packed club over who is going to phuck me. So I give a few bucks for it, I don't have to kiss any woman's ass over dinner, movie during the bullshit match dot com illusion. You PAY either way. I'm up to my 9th shag of sport fucking and finally have the chains off my back after two years of sex prison.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1855763]It was great to have 20's women fall all over me as a fifty something man in decent shape. I even had two rather loudly threaten to kill each other in a very packed club over who is going to phuck me. So I give a few bucks for it, I don't have to kiss any woman's ass over dinner, movie during the bullshit match dot com illusion. You PAY either way.[/QUOTE]Praise the Lord and pass me them biscuits! Hahahaha!
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1855763]Unless your DiCaprio pickings are slim. It's even worse for me, I'm Black and Black women on those sites are waaay overweight and absolutely live in church! As a brother I'm expected to tow the line and take it as is because she will not stop eating and not stop praying. You will probably get cut if you even THINK about a treadmill! If the chick looks hallway decent on the site she is getting bombarded with emails from all the pervs or ass kissers promising the world. Good luck with that TA.
I mongered in Nairobi last week, and now I'm in Pattaya. In Nairobi, it was great to have 20's women fall all over me as a fifty something man in decent shape. I even had two rather loudly threaten to kill each other in a very packed club over who is going to phuck me. So I give a few bucks for it, I don't have to kiss any woman's ass over dinner, movie during the bullshit match dot com illusion. You PAY either way. I'm up to my 9th shag of sport fucking and finally have the chains off my back after two years of sex prison.[/QUOTE]
I to am Black in my fifties so I feel your pain.
Won't be there long. Take care of some business, visit a few friends and then headed to South America.
Then back to Asia where I belong.
Glad you made it out NG. Now have some fun.
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MORE THAN 400 ARRESTS IN Houston-AREA SEX TRAFFICKING STING
This is some bullshit. They weren't hurting anybody. Just trying to get laid.
[URL]http://abc13.com/news/more-than-400-arrests-in-sex-trafficking-sting/1234374/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1856582]This is some bullshit. They weren't hurting anybody. Just trying to get laid.
[URL]http://abc13.com/news/more-than-400-arrests-in-sex-trafficking-sting/1234374/[/URL][/QUOTE]They always try to tie prostitution to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] to legitimize spending time and resources to arrest and shame guys for trying to have sex.
Truth is that there is more [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] in the garment, agricultural and construction industries throughout the Southwest USA, but arresting those making millions off it I guess isn't news worthy.
Glad I don't have to live there anymore.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1856582]This is some bullshit. They weren't hurting anybody. Just trying to get laid.[/QUOTE]Yeah no way I'm risking all I worked for to pay too much for too little from these crackheads in the USA. These guys should have known better, especially in the South. If they are too stupid to dump the wife, get a passport, and take a trip- their bad.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1862556]Yeah no way I'm risking all I worked for to pay too much for too little from these crackheads in the USA. These guys should have known better, especially in the South. If they are too stupid to dump the wife, get a passport, and take a trip- their bad.[/QUOTE]The system here is all fucked up. Notice how they said they are now only posting photos of "Johns" and not of the prostitutes that have been arrested as well (they have gone with the assumption that they all are "victims", which is complete horseshit).
So if your wife sees your mugshot, their goes your family, kids, house, and half your wealth. But there'd be no way of you knowing whether or not your wife is doing a little tricking on the side on Craigslist to buy those Loubutins you told her she couldn't have because they were not in the budget.
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Oldest profession
A post had a link to a report on the sex trade in Europe. In France, Sweden, Finland the johns are targeted. The EU tried to get Germany to scale back its $15 billion trade but got nowhere. Mega brothels are being located a short train ride from the French border. China keeps threatening to curtain public smoking too. But the government monolopy produces 15% of total GDP from sales. I've seen men with chopsticks in one hand an fag in the other as well as men dancing with one right in the woman's face. A man in the train poised to light up as soon as the door opened admitted that it was his "best friend".
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All victims?
[QUOTE=Beijing4987;1862654]In France the johns are targeted. The EU tried to get Germany to scale back its $15 billion trade but got nowhere. Mega brothels are being located a short train ride from the French border.[/QUOTE]Sure they are! Right!
[URL]http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/04/07/473358317/in-france-its-now-a-crime-to-pay-for-sex[/URL]
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Subsidy for abstinence
Can I get a subsidy if enter a program to stop mongering? How about mentoring a WG to get a minimal wage job and pay taxes to support the rich who send their virtual money to London. Only a short train to fall off the wagon. I'm not bitter. I live part time in Sam High China. The re educated WG can get a job cooking at a German FKK.
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Dominique
Dominique Strauss Kahn will oversee the program to put WG in France on the right path. How many times has he been outed for his sins? We'll call each one a "Berlusconi" 1,2,3.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1862660]Sure they are! Right!
[URL]http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/04/07/473358317/in-france-its-now-a-crime-to-pay-for-sex[/URL][/QUOTE][I]"Clients will be fined about $1,700 for the first offense — and that increases to more than $4,250 on the second."[/I]
Good thing I've never had any desire to visit France. I believe they also have a law that makes it illegal for a a guy to order a paternity test to see if the kid is actually his or not.
A nation of Cucks, hahaha!
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I understand where your coming from
[QUOTE=TellAll;1856076]I to am Black in my fifties so I feel your pain.
Won't be there long. Take care of some business, visit a few friends and then headed to South America.
Then back to Asia where I belong.
Glad you made it out NG. Now have some fun.[/QUOTE]I'm black, 46 in very good shape and don't look it. I just came back from Cartagena in January. I had a 20 something hottie who made the trip very worthwhile. I showed her picture to a couple of my black female friends and they acted like I had banged a 7 year old calling me everything but the son of god. You think I'm deterred? Hell no I'm making plans to visit Bogota very soon. Damn these flabby ass black women. Keep up the good works brothers.
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[QUOTE=Beijing4987;1862654]A post had a link to a report on the sex trade in Europe. In France, Sweden, Finland the johns are targeted. The EU tried to get Germany to scale back its $15 billion trade but got nowhere. [/QUOTE]The EU has absolutely nothing to say about brothels and the sex industry. As far as the EU is concerned that is a business as any other and not within their jurisdiction. If it was we would already have a uniform rule for the whole of Europe.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1853240]Getting ready to head back to the USA for a while so I thought I would check the dating websites to see what's out there.
This one women listed her 8 requirements a man needed to get her attention. Before that she stated she believed in more then the three date rule for her attention. In other words no sex any time soon.
One rule was you had to be God fearing and pray everyday blah blah blah.
Rule seven was you could not be so in debt that you couldn't afford the courtesies she expected from you. In other words MONEY.
[/QUOTE]Rick Scorpio sums online dating from a black man's point of very nicely. This brotha lives in Atlanta and says the dating scene on and offline is even more fucked up.
Basically these sites are feel with bitter broads that passed up all the "good men" in their prime choosing to go after all the bad-boy thugs. Now after they are all beat up (fucked up body, a kid or two, heavily in debt) they want to circle back and are now ready to settle down with a Good Man™. These are the broads you see with a laundry list of requirements to get in her pants. I see broads saying "You must have your own EVERYTHING (Car, Job, House or Apartment)" and you find out the b!tch lives with her mom, hahaha. It's a joke.
I watch this video damn-near daily for motivation:
[B]Washed Up Black Women Now Looking For Good Black Men[/B]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxDGX4CQtkg[/URL]
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1855763]I'm up to my 9th shag of sport fucking and finally have the chains off my back after two years of sex prison.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TellAll;1856076]
Won't be there long. Take care of some business, visit a few friends and then headed to South America.
Then back to Asia where I belong.
[/QUOTE]Any of you guys care to share with us how you finally made it out of sex prison?
I have a very well-paying career at the moment, but there is literally no travel involved, nor the possibility to go expat. Tech is booming right now and I am thinking of making the jump while I still have time to make up for the switch (in my early 30's). I have been teaching myself programming for the last 6 months am going the Full Stack Developer route. The thing is, I want a skill I can take with me anywhere in the world (like nursing). With programming you can work remotely from anywhere in the world as long as you have a good internet connection.
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They're jealous. Extremely repressed but undeniable jealousy. I'm 60 and am careful who I share my fotos of my hot Filipina and Dominicana 20-somethings with. Only show it to women who are cool and open-minded which is rare in America. Most of those ugly fatties will be depressed if they see you with young hot chicks.
[QUOTE=Drf1987;1862757]I'm black, 46 in very good shape and don't look it. I just came back from Cartagena in January. I had a 20 something hottie who made the trip very worthwhile. I showed her picture to a couple of my black female friends and they acted like I had banged a 7 year old calling me everything but the son of god. You think I'm deterred? Hell no I'm making plans to visit Bogota very soon. Damn these flabby ass black women. Keep up the good works brothers.[/QUOTE].
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Exactly!
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1863026]Basically these sites are filled with bitter broads that passed up all the "good men" in their prime choosing to go after all the bad-boy thugs. Now after they are all beat up (fucked up body, a kid or two, heavily in debt) they want to circle back and are now ready to settle down with a Good Man. These are the broads you see with a laundry list of requirements to get in her pants. I see broads saying "You must have your own EVERYTHING (Car, Job, House or Apartment)" and you find out she lives with her mom, hahaha. It's a joke.[/QUOTE]This is exactly what I found in the dating scene. But it's definitely not just black women coming off like this but the white and Latina ones too! The bullshit is thick and knows no color boundaries! They're all doing it! They don't come to the table with anything to offer but a pussy and an asshole (maybe) and somebody else's unruly kids. I can fill out their laundry list. But to them instead I say, "How ya like me now?" Think they can fuck up and still get a good man in the end. Yeah, well keep dreaming! That's not about to happen in these here parts! Making demands for things that they can't even deliver themselves. I've even met women with kids who were so arrogant that they wouldn't date a man if he had kids (FYI I don't have kids). In other words, a motherfucker is supposed to accept everything about her life in order to be with her, but then she can be picky and have requirements she could never satisfy herself! Goes back to what I've said before about American women acting like you're supposed to kiss their asses in order to get with them. Well I don't play that game. I don't have to. I don't need them. I'm free and liberated from the bullshit! Yeah man fuck these women man!
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1863034]Any of you guys care to share with us how you finally made it out of sex prison?
I have a very well-paying career at the moment, but there is literally no travel involved, nor the possibility to go expat. Tech is booming right now and I am thinking of making the jump while I still have time to make up for the switch (in my early 30's). I have been teaching myself programming for the last 6 months am going the Full Stack Developer route. The thing is, I want a skill I can take with me anywhere in the world (like nursing). With programming you can work remotely from anywhere in the world as long as you have a good internet connection.[/QUOTE]I am retired and prepared for this outcome. I did it by staying single, not having a bunch of kids and preparing financially for my break. While I was doing that, I would take short trips to have my fun so as not to become desperate and lonely. A desperate or lonely guy is an easy mark for the ruthless bitches in my country the USA so always be cautious of that.
My advice would be if you are making good money now, stay and make the money. Save as much as you can.
A lot of monger areas are great if you have money but not great for making money even online.
Travel around on short trips getting the lay of the land and having some fun and above all remember this:
The quickest way to derail your future is to find yourself in Family Court. You will have no friends there and you will watch your funds evaporate.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1863091]I am retired and prepared for this outcome. I did it by staying single, not having a bunch of kids and preparing financially for my break. While I was doing that, I would take short trips to have my fun so as not to become desperate and lonely. A desperate or lonely guy is an easy mark for the ruthless bitches in my country the USA so always be cautious of that.
My advice would be if you are making good money now, stay and make the money. Save as much as you can.
A lot of monger areas are great if you have money but not great for making money even online.
Travel around on short trips getting the lay of the land and having some fun and above all remember this:
The quickest way to derail your future is to find yourself in Family Court. You will have no friends there and you will watch your funds evaporate.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing.
That's essentially what I have been doing (taking short trips, saving up for retirement via 401K, no kids, never been married, etc.). It's just sucks having to come back to this mofo (Sex Prison) after each trip, LOL.
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Brady bunch
In today's age, the Brady Bunch would be a pure fiction (some claim it already was) since Carol would have rejected Mike and his three kids out of hand. Instead, she would prefer a single sucker with Mike's same income to take in her and her three kids! Oh, and pay for the maid Alice so she Carol could do less work around the house. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit!
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1863034]Any of you guys care to share with us how you finally made it out of sex prison? I have a very well-paying career at the moment, but there is literally no travel involved, nor the possibility to go expat. .[/QUOTE]I'm a contractor and a merchant mariner. Thanks to the information age I know what's really out there, and the money I make is 6 figga. I will retire to the Phils, but keep bouncing around to other exotic locales. Since 2004 I have been out of sex prison way more than in. I spent 2 years up in Seattle for school, and for a middle-aged Black guy in the PNW, its akin to solitary confinement unless you settle for fatties. School is out, and Gunz is back in the game forever.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1863056]This is exactly what I found in the dating scene. But it's definitely not just black women coming off like this but the white and Latina ones too![/QUOTE]But did you notice that our CEO only has a big car and a handful of money to caress and no woman (beautiful or ugly, a spinner or a whale) on his side?
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[QUOTE=DCups;1863035]They're jealous. Extremely repressed but undeniable jealousy. I'm 60 and am careful who I share my fotos of my hot Filipina and Dominicana 20-somethings with. Only show it to women who are cool and open-minded which is rare in America. Most of those ugly fatties will be depressed if they see you with young hot chicks.
.[/QUOTE]They just pissed off cause their titties are hittin the floor, they got 3 bellies and 2 asses.
These broads think they are the turkey on Thanks Giving when theyre merely the left-overs the next day.
I don't live to satisfy no ones idea of proper behavior at any age. I live to enjoy my life-fcuk everyones opinion.
Brazil has the right idea and the rest of South America too. You can be 50 with a 20 year old and if you guys are happy -its on.
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[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1863331]But did you notice that our CEO only has a big car and a handful of money to caress and no woman (beautiful or ugly, a spinner or a whale) on his side?[/QUOTE]That's because he's headed to the airport on a trip to Brazil.
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[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1863331]But did you notice that our CEO only has a big car and a handful of money to caress and no woman (beautiful or ugly, a spinner or a whale) on his side?[/QUOTE]If he's got a bad-ass car (looks like the car in the pic is a Lambo) and a fist full of dollars, I think it's safe to assume he can get (or buy) any woman he wants.
When you are getting money like an athlete or an entertainer, you are essentially living life on cheat mode. At that point b!tches are breaking their necks trying to give you some pussy.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1787813]I went to one of those legal brothels in Nye County (prostitution is by county option in NV, and is illegal in Clark County, where Las Vegas is) once. All the women were ugly and they wanted $1,000. And that was 20 years ago! WTF.[/QUOTE]Case in point:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsY1qGuyTmQ[/URL]
Wouldn't do them for free.
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Crackdown on upskirt pics
Lots of hidden camera upskirt pics are all over the net but you could end up in jail for snapping those pics.
[URL]http://video.foxnews.com/v/4850697093001/authorities-warn-women-to-watch-for-creeps-with-cameras/?intcmp=hpvid1[/URL]
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[QUOTE=RunMann;1867952]Lots of hidden camera upskirt pics are all over the net but you could end up in jail for snapping those pics.
[URL]http://video.foxnews.com/v/4850697093001/authorities-warn-women-to-watch-for-creeps-with-cameras/?intcmp=hpvid1[/URL][/QUOTE]Asshole needs to go to jail doing shit like that or maybe a good beat down.
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[QUOTE=TellAll;1867954]Asshole needs to go to jail doing shit like that or maybe a good beat down.[/QUOTE]Now your defending AW? I could really care less. Up skirt, down bra, fuck them. Keep your legs closed, wear a Hilary suit. I want to exercise my right to buy a piece of azz at the corner store from a woman that wants to sell it without being arrested, posted on web site and ridiculed, and NOT have to buy rings, pledge my LIFE and all my belongings to an institution that will almost certainly fail.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1871186]Now your defending AW? I could really care less. Up skirt, down bra, fuck them. Keep your legs closed, wear a Hilary suit. I want to exercise my right to buy a piece of azz at the corner store from a woman that wants to sell it without being arrested, posted on web site and ridiculed, and NOT have to buy rings, pledge my LIFE and all my belongings to an institution that will almost certainly fail.[/QUOTE]Not defending AW's. But even women I have no interest in do not need to fall victim to a sexual predator and make no mistake, that is what those guys are.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1871186]Now your defending AW? I could really care less. Up skirt, down bra, fuck them. Keep your legs closed, wear a Hilary suit. I want to exercise my right to buy a piece of azz at the corner store from a woman that wants to sell it without being arrested, posted on web site and ridiculed, and NOT have to buy rings, pledge my LIFE and all my belongings to an institution that will almost certainly fail.[/QUOTE]Let me get this straight. You are angry with women and care nothing about them? Yet you still want to fuck them? And you feel it is your right to buy pussy whenever you want? How many women were in the legislature when the laws about you not being able to buy pussy were enacted? If I am not mistaken the senators and representatives were an overwhelming majority male then, and still is a majority today.
For the last 230 years the US Senate has had 1950 members, of which 46 (2%) were women. Of those 46, 20 are serving today. Therefore, it seems your anger is misguided. You should be pissed at men because they are the ones who made the laws making it illegal to buy pussy. From my point of view, a feminist woman is one who believes it is her right to do what she wants with her own body; while a male dominated government is there to tell her that she can't.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1871396]For the last 230 years the US Senate has had 1950 members, of which 46 (2%) were women. Of those 46, 20 are serving today. Therefore, it seems your anger is misguided. You should be pissed at men because they are the ones who made the laws making it illegal to buy pussy. From my point of view, a feminist woman is one who believes it is her right to do what she wants with her own body; while a male dominated government is there to tell her that she can't.[/QUOTE]Those are just a bunch of pussy-whipped politicians trying to get votes! Women may make up only a tiny portion of the legislative body, but they make up half of the fucking electorate! So these guys go and try to make themselves look good standing against "trafficking" and "sex tourism" and all this bullshit, and then they turn around and get caught "buying sex" just like the rest of us. Give me a break! They don't all vote for it because they believe in it. They vote for it to try to keep their lame asses in office! And that's the bottom line.
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WHOA, E, do you really think a feminist is going to approve of our hobby? If feminists unite this site could be in a lot of trouble. Here's to a MAN'S WORLD: where he can still be king of the castle; where he can have as many nubile, young concubines as he can afford; and where he can say what he wants without getting castrated by yet another loud-mouthed, fat ass, *****-on-a-mission.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1871396] a feminist woman is one who believes it is her right to do what she wants with her own body; while a male dominated government is there to tell her that she can't.[/QUOTE].
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I sure miss Benny Hill.
[QUOTE=TellAll;1871272]Not defending AW's. But even women I have no interest in do not need to fall victim to a sexual predator and make no mistake, that is what those guys are.[/QUOTE].
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Well, where is Benny Hill when you need him? That guy was always looking up skirts and we loved him for it. Seriously TA, you are taking this too seriously
[QUOTE=TellAll;1871272]Not defending AW's. But even women I have no interest in do not need to fall victim to a sexual predator and make no mistake, that is what those guys are.[/QUOTE].
Sly in my humble opinion. Geez if I could get away with it I'd be staring down every the Cup cleavage I could.
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[QUOTE=DCups;1871429]Well, where is Benny Hill when you need him? That guy was always looking up skirts and we loved him for it. Seriously TA, you are taking this too seriously. Sly in my humble opinion. Geez if I could get away with it I'd be staring down every the Cup cleavage I could.[/QUOTE]Yeah. And if you did it to my daughter I would be beating your ass. Things are all well and good until the chickens come home to roost. When I was 13 years old in high school there was a smoking area for us out back. Do you think my old high school needs that again too? People and societies do dumb shit sometimes and hopefully they soon realize how dumb it is and grow out of it and learn from it, instead of staying stuck doing the same dumb shit for an eternity.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1871446]Yeah. And if you did it to my daughter I would be beating your ass. [/QUOTE]No one said anything about kids, dumbass.
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[QUOTE=DCups;1871632]No one said anything about kids, dumbass.[/QUOTE]Daughters come as adults as well as kids you know, dumbass. Or is my adult daughter no longer my daughter?
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Well congratulations! No one on ISG (except you) is talking about daughters. I find it completely absurd and hypocritical that Mr. E, a major contributor to ISG, is a self-confessed feminist. OK, go vote for Hillary now, you dolt.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1871652]Daughters come as adults as well as kids you know, dumbass. Or is my adult daughter no longer my daughter?[/QUOTE].
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[QUOTE=DCups;1871663]Well congratulations! No one on ISG (except you) is talking about daughters. I find it completely absurd and hypocritical that Mr. E, a major contributor to ISG, is a self-confessed feminist. OK, go vote for Hillary now, you dolt.
.[/QUOTE]Are you as big of an idiot as you are sounding? If you are talking about women then you are definitely talking about daughters. So again if you tried some bullshit like looking up my daughter's skirt or down her shirt with your mirror then you would be in for an ass kicking. Yes I am a major contributor to ISG when it concerns 2 or more WILLING adult parties; not when it concerns perverted unwanted advances like you have mentioned.
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[QUOTE=DCups;1871429]Well, where is Benny Hill when you need him? That guy was always looking up skirts and we loved him for it.[/QUOTE]Well different times, different mores.
2000 years ago Romans just loved seeing people being torn to pieces by wild beasts. I don't think this is anywhere in the world still an acceptable show.
Taking up-shirt pictures from non-consenting women is no longer acceptable. How would you feel if your session with a bargirl was filmed and put on the Internet for all to see? I guess that at the very least you will feel cheated out of some copyright fees.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1871409]Those are just a bunch of pussy-whipped politicians trying to get votes! Women may make up only a tiny portion of the legislative body, but they make up half of the fucking electorate! So these guys go and try to make themselves look good standing against "trafficking" and "sex tourism" and all this bullshit, and then they turn around and get caught "buying sex" just like the rest of us. Give me a break! They don't all vote for it because they believe in it. They vote for it to try to keep their lame asses in office! And that's the bottom line.[/QUOTE]I would say you had an argument on your hands if it wasn't for the fact that most prostitution laws started around the turn of the 20th century, while women were not allowed to vote until 1920! So the only people a politician could have been catering to in order to keep his lame ass in office was other men. So once again, men are the root of laws against prostitution, not women.
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The hypocrisy of Feminism
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1871781]I would say you had an argument on your hands if it wasn't for the fact that most prostitution laws started around the turn of the 20th century, while women were not allowed to vote until 1920! So the only people a politician could have been catering to in order to keep his lame ass in office was other men. So once again, men are the root of laws against prostitution, not women.[/QUOTE]That was a predictable comeback, but here's the thing. Women have a lot of societal power, both formal and informal. They may not have always had suffrage rights, but they have always had significant influence and power over men, including the political men in their lives (well-documented). And that power has only grown over time to where it is today. We're about to have our first female president in the most powerful country the world has ever known (I believe it's true)! Now, if the majority of men today had their way and acted on how they really feel about it, then we all know that pussy would indeed be for sale at the corner store. Note I didn't say all men. I said the majority. And that's what I truly believe.
I'm not here to argue for the proposition that pussy ought to be for sale on "every" street corner. I actually don't think that's something I would prefer. But I do believe that it ought to be for sale somewhere! A lot! And the reason why it isn't in some places is because of the influence of women on men, in both formal and informal settings. And for you to say it's the other way around (men are the reason) because they dominate the legislative bodies is just plain intellectually shallow and blind to the way the world really works. You remove all causation from women on this and assign it to men exclusively? Really? Unbelievable! The power of pussy is strong and has you, me, and everybody else here traveling around the world paying to "get some". So don't underestimate its influence in all forms on all matters of human concern, be that in a formal political forum or elsewhere.
And let me tell you about those "feminists" you mentioned who believe that it's a woman's right to do what she wants to with her own body. Yes, that's what they'll initially say. But then start talking specifically about prostitution and see what they say then! Oh then, well no woman in her right mind would choose to be a prostitute right? She's clearly a "victim". Forced into it and trafficked and abused by men. That's the only reason she's selling her body and there is no other. She knows not what she does!
That's exactly what you're going to hear. These "liberated feminists" who you seem to be touting all of a sudden don't accept a woman doing what she wants to with her own body when it comes to prostitution due to the "victim" mentality that's become pervasive, at least in western society. It's just more of the same two-faced hypocrisy from feminist women who want it both ways. To make their own decisions. Do their own thing. But then when a woman decides to do something that the feminists don't like, oh then all of a sudden we have a problem. Another "male-driven" problem preventing women from "being all they can be". I've seen plenty of your posts over the years, and I can't believe that a guy like you would fall for this this double standard bullshit. And that's exactly what it is too. And it's deep!
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1871781]I would say you had an argument on your hands if it wasn't for the fact that most prostitution laws started around the turn of the 20th century, while women were not allowed to vote until 1920![/QUOTE]By your own words, women have been voting for the last 96 years! A damn century! So not only was your response predictable, but also weak given that by your own admission women have had the vote in the United States for nearly 100 years already. I think that's been long enough to make a difference LOL! Influence I say. Both formal and informal! And do you think everything has remained static since the turn of the last century? Because if you do, then I'm here to tell you that they certainly have not. The types of laws on the books, how strictly those laws have been enforced, against whom they have been enforced, "John shaming", and all that stuff! If you think women don't have a thing to do with all that and haven't had a hand in the development of applicable law over the last 96 years (even though they've had the vote all of that time), then dude the only one here you're deluding is yourself! Hell, the female vote was critical for passing prohibition too (wouldn't have happened without them), and we see how well that turned out LOL!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1871827]Hell, the female vote was critical for passing prohibition too (wouldn't have happened without them), and we see how well that turned out LOL![/QUOTE]Prohibition started in 1920, the year women started voting, so of course women were critical for that. Again, prostitution laws originated 20 years before that. You can talk about the evolution of the laws which of course women have had a hand in as well, but the foundation of these laws were laid by men at a time when women had zero say so. These were the same men that said Blacks and women could not vote. So if you think women had so much influence at that time then it seems the first thing they would have influenced is their right to vote before trying to stamp out prostitution. They would not even need the right to vote if they had that much influence! Why would they need to vote when according to you they were deciding shit anyway?[QUOTE=The Cane;1871812]I've seen plenty of your posts over the years, and I can't believe that a guy like you would fall for this this double standard bullshit. And that's exactly what it is too. And it's deep![/QUOTE]Maybe it is because the issue does not affect me. I am not here complaining about not being able to get pussy from American women or America being a sex prison. I have never had those kind of problems. The bottom line for me is that American women have pussies. And people with pussies like to fuck just as much as people with dicks. You can drop me in the middle of Timbuktu and the first thing I am going to do is get on some biches.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1871846]Prohibition started in 1920, the year women started voting, so of course women were critical for that. Again, prostitution laws originated 20 years before that. You can talk about the evolution of the laws which of course women have had a hand in as well, but the foundation of these laws were laid by men at a time when women had zero say so.[/QUOTE]Once again, somebody needs a lesson in how the world really works! Do you think 1920 came along then poof! Women had the right to vote in the same year, and then prohibition passed just like that? How did things even get to where it was a national issue up for consideration for passage in the first place? How do you think that happened? Let me tell you. It was because the groundwork for prohibition was laid by women well before it went into place at the very time when women could not vote! That groundwork was laid by plenty of influential women (who couldn't vote) who led a movement to make it happen before they could actually cast a single vote themselves. They were exercising their influence on the psyche of society well before the time came when women could vote! Just like I said they've always done.
So now, do you think those same women without the vote could have been influencing all matter of other concerns to society as well? Matters that impact the lives of women? Like prostitution maybe? Do you think? Or they had one-track, single issue minds and could only focus on prohibition and nothing else LOL? The whole way prohibition got rolling is a perfect illustration of what I've been saying about women having the ability to exert great influence through both formal and informal avenues. Now, they didn't have to be able to vote for laws against prostitution if they could exert enough informal influence (outside the formal political process) to get the males in society to do it for them! LOL! They got the men to pass prostitution laws but men would be damned if they weren't going to be able to get a damn drink either! The women did need the vote to get that one through (again how'd that work out), but they had been working it good before the time arrived when they could vote for it directly themselves.
Influence. Formal and informal! Women have always had plenty of say! Prostitution is the world's "oldest profession", and a woman probably started it once she realized what she had LOL! But that was before "feminism" arose for sure. And if now the feminists have their way, it would be no pussy plus no alcohol all over again! Fuck that.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1871846]So if you think women had so much influence at that time then it seems the first thing they would have influenced is their right to vote before trying to stamp out prostitution. They would not even need the right to vote if they had that much influence! Why would they need to vote when according to you they were deciding shit anyway?[/QUOTE]I haven't seen anybody try to make such a nonsensical circular argument like that in a long time. You're going to need to step up your game if you're going to debate me. And win. Hey here you go, here you go! If these issues don't affect you Mr. Lover Lover, then why are you even here in this thread in the first place then? Stick with the Thailand, DR, and Colombia threads why don't you if as you say "these issues don't affect you" and leave us be in peace with our prostitutes and alcohol to complain about AW LOL!
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1871846] You can drop me in the middle of Timbuktu and the first thing I am going to do is get on some biches.[/QUOTE]Ya, just don't look up their skirt or down their blouse, E. Man, you are the epitome of self-delusion. I suppose your farts smell like perfume, too, for all your feminista friends. Extra! Extra! Read all about it! Mr. E. is irresistible to women everywhere! He is the King of All Gigolos. Wow. Your ego is worse than all of the political candidates combined.
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[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1871727]Well different times, different mores.
2000 years ago Romans just loved seeing people being torn to pieces by wild beasts. .[/QUOTE]Ya, Wolfie, they also had orgies; and no doubt looked into cleavages and up gowns like we still do if we can be so lucky to sneek a peek. I'm pretty sure no one wants to see my ass (or other parts) on the internet, however. I wouldn't want to cause mass hysteria hahah. But now a young lass with gorgeous legs and an ample bosom? You'd have to be a homo not to enjoy that.
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Wow, where did all this debate come from while I had my back turned! As I typed that statement I truly felt that women are not the single biggest deterrent to my buying pussy, a six-pack or smoking a blunt after a hard day at work without destroying my life in the process. The country is full of weak drug addicts and alcoholics that have no self-control, and turn to God to get themselves to stop the party. These people comprise a large part of the Christian right that pay the lobbies that control the politicians. These are the people doing blow with hookers, violating children, yet preaching the gospel while looking down their nose at you. They are in my family also.
So yes, between the two (God squad and Feminazi) mongers will have to still cross the border. Yet, there is hope. Reefer is VERY slowly becoming legal for recreational use. Prostitution will have to be looked at also as the country looks for more shit to tax. The country is changing, and the Christian right is slowly dying off, but they are trying to hold on to power- Trump and Cruz are the last dying gasps. Republicans are disintegrating. Jobs are going away and women will even start recognizing the need to earn money that way too. I have been to 50 countries in 5 continents and getting a woman without some mind game, effort pursuit shit is no problem in any of them. In my own country I am subjected to trying to decipher the female psyche (are you fucking kidding me) who is trained to do that? I have been conditioned that her wants and needs are somehow more important than mine because I'm physically stronger. Excuse me but there are some very smart and manipulative women out there taking full advantage!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1871846] You can drop me in the middle of Timbuktu and the first thing I am going to do is get on some biches.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DCups;1871875]Ya, just don't look up their skirt or down their blouse, E. Man, you are the epitome of self-delusion. I suppose your farts smell like perfume, too, for all your feminista friends. Extra! Extra! Read all about it! Mr. E. is irresistible to women everywhere! He is the King of All Gigolos. Wow. Your ego is worse than all of the political candidates combined.[/QUOTE]Well, it only makes sense that the AW venom would be eventually directed to E. LOL! I mean yeah, you do portray yourself as that muthphucka "most interesting man in world"! 0 ver 5000 POSTS! One week in Thailand, the next in Tijuana, then BACK- are you kidding? I mean do you really have a job man? Am I going to find you've fucked some seals in Siberia forum? Not being a hater-just sayin! I've been on this site 10 fucking years, yet my very busy life in all those countries prohibits a bunch of typing. I also do not think it adds much to anybody's knowledge when all I have done is picked a girl, fucked a girl, paid a girl. That's just basic shit that goes unreported.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1871890]Wow, where did all this debate come from I mean do you really have a job man? [/QUOTE]He works for an airlines, has a MBA (probably from Univ-Phoenix) and talks a whole lotta bullshit.
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[QUOTE=DCups;1871892]He works for an airlines, has a MBA (probably from Univ-Phoenix) and talks a whole lotta bullshit.[/QUOTE]And also claims to be so smart, but yet says he has little money. But then he's allegedly bouncing around all over the place from Thailand to the PI to the DR to Mexico to Colombia. Occasionally to the States. With little income according to his own words in other posts. Somebody's game definitely doesn't pass the "smell test". Somebody is "scamming".
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[QUOTE=DCups;1871875]Ya, just don't look up their skirt or down their blouse, E. Man, you are the epitome of self-delusion. I suppose your farts smell like perfume, too, for all your feminista friends. Extra! Extra! Read all about it! Mr. E. is irresistible to women everywhere! He is the King of All Gigolos. Wow. Your ego is worse than all of the political candidates combined.[/QUOTE]That is pure sadness. Because I don't have a problem with women and therefore don't need to join your cause and talk bad about them the same way that you do, then you feel you must talk bad about me? That is the same as me being able to go into the bank with an 800 credit score and get a loan, yet when you walk in with a credit score of 400 and can't get a loan you have to proclaim the banks as being shitty. Then I say I don't find anything wrong with the banks; I have no problem getting loans from them. Instead of asking well how do I get my credit score up as well so that I can get loans like you, you have to try to put me down and ridicule me as being this, that, or the other. You are a sad case dude; a pussyless sad case at that.
The thing is that everyone is good at something. It is just that you are not good at women. And this is apparent from you saying you wish you could look down strangers' shirts and up their dresses with impunity. Maybe you are good with computers and can program the hell out of one. Me, I used to be good with computers back when I had a Commodore 64, but now I don't know shit about them and can admit that. But that does not entitle me to say how shitty computers are these days and talk bad about you because you can program a computer in your sleep and I can barely turn one on. If anything I am going to say hey man since I know you are so good at it, can you teach me a thing or two about these computers?
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1872122] I know you are so good at it, can you teach me a thing or two about these computers?[/QUOTE]You don't know jack shit about me or what I'm good at, dumbass. I'm not good with computers. Women, I can hold my own with or without looking at their their breasts and legs. Let's compare notes when you're 60. I'm also good at exposing you for the bullshit that you spew and the pomposity you represent. Geez, E, eat some humble pie and fess up: you are not God's gift to women and never will be.
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[QUOTE=DCups;1871881]Ya, Wolfie, they also had orgies; and no doubt looked into cleavages and up gowns like we still do if we can be so lucky to sneek a peek. I'm pretty sure no one wants to see my ass (or other parts) on the internet, however. I wouldn't want to cause mass hysteria hahah. But now a young lass with gorgeous legs and an ample bosom? You'd have to be a homo not to enjoy that.[/QUOTE]And we still have orgies and I regularly participate. But it is all consensual and that is the thing that matters. I enjoy some cleavage as any next man and a picture of a pussy a day would keep me a happy man, but not if it was "stolen" against the consent of the "victim".
It's not the down-blouse of up-skirt thing that's sick (quite the contrary) but the fact that is done against the wishes of the lady. It is very unbecoming a gentleman to sneek around wth a smartphone (or whatever) and invade her intimacy.
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Point taken. For the record, I just like to look not snap fotos of the unsuspecting feline. Behind closed doors with a consenting adult is another matter of course but definitely not with anyone related to or part of Mr. E's harem. I'm quite sure they'd all be too ugly for me.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1872151]And we still have orgies and I regularly participate. But it is all consensual and that is the thing that matters. I enjoy some cleavage as any next man and a picture of a pussy a day would keep me a happy man, but not if it was "stolen" against the consent of the "victim".
It's not the down-blouse of up-skirt thing that's sick (quite the contrary) but the fact that is done against the wishes of the lady. It is very unbecoming a gentleman to sneek around wth a smartphone (or whatever) and invade her intimacy.[/QUOTE].
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1872038]And also claims to be so smart, but yet says he has little money. But then he's allegedly bouncing around all over the place from Thailand to the PI to the DR to Mexico to Colombia. Occasionally to the States. With little income according to his own words in other posts. Somebody's game definitely doesn't pass the "smell test". Somebody is "scamming".[/QUOTE]Scamming what? The thing is that I hang out with and can be vouched for by many members of ISG. Tell All in this particular thread. Dcfan in the Medellin thread. Tomjackin in the Tijuana thread. LittleBigMan in the Thailand thread. Mrgogo, Grownman, Revere, Bqribs, and Readytogetonit, Surfer in the Dominican Republic thread. Sushilover808. Hell I even met Pipelayer99 years ago off this board in Rio and we have been friends ever since. I convinced him to go to Thailand and he has been living there about 3 years now. I have met many more members as well.
Ask board member Chris Long about when he came to Thailand last summer and I picked him up and all drinks were on me and I showed him my way of doing things. They way that I state over and over on this board. I didn't have him walking into the disco buying drinks for a girl and all her friends. I told him leave with this girl and give her $30 tomorrow. I think he had a time trying to get rid of the chick.
Just because I choose to spend my money wisely and not put it in the hands of every woman I come in contact with, does not mean that I do not have any. If I was to pass out money to every chick I dealt with or stay in a luxury hotel and get a limo driver every place I went to, then soon I would have no money. But when I can ride the bus from Manila to Angeles for $5 and get there in relatively the same amount of time as the guy who is paying a taxi $60, guess which one I am going to do?
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[QUOTE=DCups;1872148]You don't know jack shit about me or what I'm good at, dumbass. I'm not good with computers. [/QUOTE]Okay. Plant flowers, wire houses, swim. Whatever the hell you are good at. We can definitely tell that neither common sense (did you seriously say that women aren't daughters) nor relating analogies is your strong suit. Seems like you are getting emotional like a woman though. Maybe that is what you are good at.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1872208]Just because I choose to spend my money wisely and not put it in the hands of every woman I come in contact with, does not mean that I do not have any. If I was to pass out money to every chick I dealt with or stay in a luxury hotel and get a limo driver every place I went to, then soon I would have no money. But when I can ride the bus from Manila to Angeles for $5 and get there in relatively the same amount of time as the guy who is paying a taxi $60, guess which one I am going to do?[/QUOTE]I'm just going off of old posts I've seen you make where you yourself claimed poverty. I asked you one time privately if you were retired and you told me no, but that you do "OK". Something to that effect. Whatever that means. So you're a really smart guy, you have an MBA, but you don't have a lot of money (all your words and not mine). You're not retired (again your words). And yet, you're bouncing around all over the place from Asia to South America to the Caribbean to North America and back to Asia again. The flight attendant theory works for me! Cabin crew with a Master's degree!
But I'm going to get back to the original subject, then I'm through with this. When you boil it all down, here's the essence of your argument. Legislative bodies pass laws. Men overwhelmingly occupy legislative bodies. Therefore, men are fully responsible for anti-prostitution laws while women have absolutely nothing to do with that whatsoever. None at all. Furthermore, the framework for anti-prostitution laws was established at the start of the 20th century, and nothing really has changed at all since then. Wow! That's your argument, which I find to be surprisingly simplistic, narrow-minded, and shallow for somebody who claims to possess and be so proud of having an advanced education (you're always reminding us about that MBA hommes). Let the record show that I've already pointed out why and how your stance is dead wrong.
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Here you go again, bonehead. Who is the "we" you refer to? All of your imaginary friends? As for your analogies, the logic is not there but go ahead and get another loan if you need to. I'm debt free. As for your daughter, you were the one that brought her up, not me. She's probably as ugly as you are stupid. Man, you should ask for your money back from that MBA. You sure don't use here or as a flight attendant. I used to get a kick out of your posts because you are so full of yourself but I knew you would eventually implode and now you have! Congratulations, E, you've been blocked. Your posts don't even have entertainment value any more!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1872231]We can definitely tell that neither common sense (did you seriously say that women aren't daughters) nor relating analogies is your strong suit. [/QUOTE].
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AW Definition of a Grown Man
Saw this on some Ratchet h0e's POF profile easier today. For those of you who may have trouble reading the words in the photo attached, it reads:
"MAN RULE #7: A Grown Man is supposed to have his own car, apartment / house, & money. Grown Men don't seek Independent Women so they can be dependent as men. Grown Men don't watch their women struggle to do everything, while they contribute nothing. A man who doesn't have his own is a boy to real men & the downfall of the women who love them".
This statement is fucked up on so many levels. So as a "Grown Man", I'm expected to have all the laundry list of items she has deemed a man should possess, but "Grown Men don't watch their women struggle to do everything, while they contribute nothing. " Meaning I'm supposed to help you pay for that apartment / house you are struggling to keep because you can barely afford it? That BMW you are struggling to keep because you can barely afford it?
The nerve of broads today. The sad part is there was probably some SIMP who saw that on her profile and was nodding his head in agreement.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1875810]Saw this on some Ratchet h0e's POF profile easier today. The nerve of broads today. [/QUOTE]What do you expect from a hood rat? Her profile reflects an obvious lack of class. Your POF woman, the image she projects, who she is, where she lives, and ultimately the kind of man she attracts, she thinks, needs some sort of "training". Water seeks its own level my friend. That's why there are many, many attractive and college educated women that feel they are "settling" when is comes to a hard working non-degreed, blue collar man. I don't even have to see the pic to know this diva is hood and obviously attracting ex-cons, pervs, immature kids, and she feels all men are this way, not understanding that she will never attract the "gentlemen" she desires. It's Mothers Day Sun.! Lets all put together a go fund me vaca to the Maury show to find her baby daddies!
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1875861]That's why there are many, many attractive and college educated women that feel they are "settling" when is comes to a hard working non-degreed, blue collar man.[/QUOTE]Don't give those "college educated women" a pass either. There are plenty of them that got knocked up by "Man-man" and "Jamarquavious". Despite the formal education degree, broads still make stupid decisions when it comes to the game called life.
Check out Tommy Sotomayor's take on this:
[B]They Love Robbing Peter To Pay Tyrone & Jamarquavious! Broke Black B!tches Begging[/B]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md9JWqN6E2o[/URL]
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1875861]What do you expect from a hood rat? Her profile reflects an obvious lack of class. Your POF woman, the image she projects, who she is, where she lives, and ultimately the kind of man she attracts, she thinks, needs some sort of "training". Water seeks its own level my friend. That's why there are many, many attractive and college educated women that feel they are "settling" when is comes to a hard working non-degreed, blue collar man. I don't even have to see the pic to know this diva is hood and obviously attracting ex-cons, pervs, immature kids, and she feels all men are this way, not understanding that she will never attract the "gentlemen" she desires. It's Mothers Day Sun.! Lets all put together a go fund me vaca to the Maury show to find her baby daddies![/QUOTE]I have a friend who Black Women find attractive. I have known him for twenty years. Those bitches are always all over this guy saying he is the man they have been looking for when they don't even know his last name. He once fell for the bullshit but after being fucked over in family court twice and losing big, he finally learned.
I am an average looking Joe, a Lame with the means to travel the world. He once asked me why I go all the way to Asia and South America to find women when there are plenty here?
I told him I go because the playing field is level. I don't have to be this tall or this shade of brown or have this grade of hair to have drop dead gorgeous women.
We are both in our fifties and at first he didn't understand until he showed me pictures if his age appropriate women in their 40's and 50's who still expect to be wined and dined. Who still expect for you to listen to their needs and fulfill them.
Then I showed him my women who are young, hot and ready to fuck my brains out with no drama.
He finally understands and said if he had knew years ago it would have saved him 2 houses. LOL.
Now he listened to their bull to get in there pants and never lets his guard down.
Maybe he has learned, maybe not. I do know that I wouldn't trade my life for his and in the end if you don't fall for those bitches bullshit, you will be a lot better off.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1875866]Check out Tommy Sotomayor's take on this:
[B]They Love Robbing Peter To Pay Tyrone & Jamarquavious! Broke Black B!tches Begging[/B]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md9JWqN6E2o[/URL][/QUOTE]That joker is always spot on. I watch him everyday and I don't think he has ever said something that I did not agree with.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1875932]That joker is always spot on. I watch him everyday and I don't think he has ever said something that I did not agree with.[/QUOTE]Tommy speaks reality and common sense. Love the guy.
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Black women
I have no problems with black women. Absolutely none whatsoever. Because you see, except for at work where I have to, I don't talk to 'um hahaha! I step out with the Latinas and the white girls LOL! Not too attracted to Asians, but would like more access to Arab women who I have had some good experiences with (very dirty). Hehehe!
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Malcolm X was so right about Hollywood corrupting women
[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1875861]What do you expect from a hood rat? Her profile reflects an obvious lack of class. Your POF woman, the image she projects, who she is, where she lives, and ultimately the kind of man she attracts, she thinks, needs some sort of "training". Water seeks its own level my friend. That's why there are many, many attractive and college educated women that feel they are "settling" when is comes to a hard working non-degreed, blue collar man. I don't even have to see the pic to know this diva is hood and obviously attracting ex-cons, pervs, immature kids, and she feels all men are this way, not understanding that she will never attract the "gentlemen" she desires. It's Mothers Day Sun.! Lets all put together a go fund me vaca to the Maury show to find her baby daddies![/QUOTE]"I don't know how many marriage breakups are caused by these movie-and television-addicted women expecting some bouquets and kissing and hugging and being swept out like Cinderella for dinner and dancing -- then getting mad when a poor, scraggly husband comes in tired and sweaty from working like a dog all day, looking for some food."
Malcolm X, The Autobiography of Malcolm X.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1875810]Saw this on some Ratchet h0e's POF profile easier today. For those of you who may have trouble reading the words in the photo attached, it reads:
"MAN RULE #7: A Grown Man is supposed to have his own car, apartment / house, & money. Grown Men don't seek Independent Women so they can be dependent as men. Grown Men don't watch their women struggle to do everything, while they contribute nothing. A man who doesn't have his own is a boy to real men & the downfall of the women who love them".
This statement is fucked up on so many levels. So as a "Grown Man", I'm expected to have all the laundry list of items she has deemed a man should possess, but "Grown Men don't watch their women struggle to do everything, while they contribute nothing. " Meaning I'm supposed to help you pay for that apartment / house you are struggling to keep because you can barely afford it? That BMW you are struggling to keep because you can barely afford it?
The nerve of broads today. The sad part is there was probably some SIMP who saw that on her profile and was nodding his head in agreement.[/QUOTE]I just wonder, don't you have similar rules for your women? Shouldn't she be young, sexy, beautiful, entirely devoted to you (but still allow you your little escapades) and of independent wealth she more than willingly shares with you?
What I want to say is that we all have our "standards", ours and those of many women are not that much different I think.
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Nope!
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1878139]I just wonder, don't you have similar rules for your women? Shouldn't she be young, sexy, beautiful, entirely devoted to you (but still allow you your little escapades) and of independent wealth she more than willingly shares with you?
What I want to say is that we all have our "standards", ours and those of many women are not that much different I think.[/QUOTE]You are dead wrong. I don't have similar such rules for my women, and my standards certainly are not the same as those of these women who many of us here despise. You see, I no longer buy into "the system"! "My women" are tutes! So what are my requirements for them then? Well, to borrow from a union's demand for a fair day's pay for a fair day's work, how's about a fair fuck for a fair buck! LOLOLOL! I'm not interested in her love and devotion and all that bullshit! Young and sexy and beautiful OK. And a good PSE fuck hahahaha! And that's it! I'm not interested in "relationships". Just a good piece of ass. Again and again and again! For the rest of me life! So help me God!
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[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1878139]What I want to say is that we all have our "standards", ours and those of many women are not that much different I think.[/QUOTE]Hi W,
Sure, everyone has standards. She is enjoying the "double standard" AW so exceeding take advantage of in the good ole USA! What type of reception would you get if you posted in your profile a gif stating your minimum standards: Big tits, small waist, a phat ass, no damn needy kids in need of a father figure! The complaints to the website would eventually get you to have it removed, if not outright kicked of the site. Even if in your gif were similar to hers and insisting on what a grown woman is supposed to be; I'm sure you would be blasted with responses saying your an idiot that does not know the value of a woman.
Actually this thing makes quite a statement of how much a biatch she must be. This kind of attitude can only attract negative attention- online or wherever. The majority of profiles have great photos, positive messages, and ok, some idea of the kind of person they like. Any man or woman that throws this shyte out there is living a miserable life. She is putting out a shyte vibe and in turn -attracting shyte, yet too stupid to know what she is doing as a first impression.
[QUOTE=TheCane;1878245]You see, I no longer buy into "the system"! "My women" are tutes! how's about a fair fuck for a fair buck! LOLOLOL! ! I'm not interested in "relationships". Just a good piece of ass. Again and again and again! For the rest of me life! So help me God![/QUOTE]I'm living that life and its wonderful!
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1878707]Hi W,She is putting out a shyte vibe and in turn -attracting shyte, yet too stupid to know what she is doing as a first impression.[/QUOTE]I used to find it rollicking funny when I would meet these women claiming how they're not down with a bunch of drama, and the whole while they're being all dramatic as they tell me how they don't want any drama LOLOLOL! Too stupid and self-absorbed to have any self-awareness of how they're coming off.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1878908]I used to find it rollicking funny when I would meet these women claiming how they're not down with a bunch of drama, and the whole while they're being all dramatic as they tell me how they don't want any drama LOLOLOL! Too stupid and self-absorbed to have any self-awareness of how they're coming off.[/QUOTE]Too "hood":. Too "ghetto":. Have never seen or acted with any class. Only understand "Thug":.
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Four in 10 American women now classified as obese
Per The Guardian:
[URL]http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/08/four-in-10-american-women-classified-obese-epidemic[/URL]
Obesity, which means not merely overweight, but seriously overweight, is considered one of the nation's leading public health problems because it can trigger diabetes and lead to heart disease and other serious health problems. Until the early 1980's, only about one in six adults were obese.
Researchers looked at obesity rates among different age groups and along racial lines and found wide disparities, mainly ones that have persisted for years.
Obesity continues to be most common among black women. About 57% of black women are obese. In contrast, about 47% of Hispanic women, 38% of white women, and 12% of Asian women are obese.
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[QUOTE=LarryDavid;1891164]Obesity continues to be most common among black women. About 57% of black women are obese. In contrast, about 47% of Hispanic women, 38% of white women, and 12% of Asian women are obese.[/QUOTE]Don't really need a research study to know this. A simple look outside your window will reflect this. As a middle-aged Af-Am man my dating choices in the USA are truly sad. Fat, menopausal women surrounded by grandkids on the weekends. I am so happy to be away from the USA. I won't knock just the women in being overweight. I FINALLY got my ass to working out again and lost 15 so far, 20 more to go. It takes WORK and SWEAT- 2 things many women don't like to do for exercise. If it aint a cute dance routine they aint doing it. I will be in Nairobi and the Philippines again with my slimmer body riding twenty-something's like a winning jockey in the final stretch!
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Are you kidding me!
What a pussy country! Fully clothed Hooters girl sponsoring scouts causes outrage! You see more tits on an Italian beach!
And they have less sexual hangups, and I'm sure less r8 pists and child molesters. Fucking right wing Christian right at work again!
[URL]https://gma.yahoo.com/parents-outraged-learn-local-hooters-sponsored-cub-scout-184215159--abc-news-topstories.html[/URL]#.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1903504]What a pussy country! Fully clothed Hooters girl sponsoring scouts causes outrage! You see more tits on an Italian beach!
And they have less sexual hangups, and I'm sure less r8 pists and child molesters. Fucking right wing Christian right at work again!
[URL]https://gma.yahoo.com/parents-outraged-learn-local-hooters-sponsored-cub-scout-184215159--abc-news-topstories.html[/URL]#.[/QUOTE]This is why I like this forum (though it's members are another story). I'm not in favor of the social engineering war known as the gender gap / conflict / whatever, but something has to give. Trying to game in the USA gets you labelled a creep these days. Some guy at a gas station tried chatting up the desk peon and she threatened to call the cops. I say, save your money, get your passport, and visit Haiti / the Philippines / somewhere in Africa. Less BS, and your dollar goes farther.
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[QUOTE=NoobTraveller;1907213]Trying to game in the USA gets you labelled a creep these days. Some guy at a gas station tried chatting up the desk peon and she threatened to call the cops. I say, save your money, get your passport, and visit Haiti / the Philippines / somewhere in Africa. Less BS, and your dollar goes farther.[/QUOTE]It's funny you bring this story up. I work in an industry in the USA Where a majority of the employees are women. We recently had an employee that felt "uncomfortable" when a client was with her. I asked her specifically what happened but she was being vague and was just saying she felt uncomfortable around him. Apparently she told our manager about this and because of what happened we now have panic buttons in every office. Pressing the button goes straight to the local police department and an officer will be sent to investigate! All because an AW felt uncomfortable!
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Daddies, "Dates," and the Girlfriend Experience: Welcome to the New Prostitution Econ
[QUOTE=NoobTraveller;1907213]This is why I like this forum (though it's members are another story). I'm not in favor of the social engineering war known as the gender gap / conflict / whatever, but something has to give. Trying to game in the USA gets you labelled a creep these days. Some guy at a gas station tried chatting up the desk peon and she threatened to call the cops. I say, save your money, get your passport, and visit Haiti / the Philippines / somewhere in Africa. Less BS, and your dollar goes farther.[/QUOTE]As it turns out, all American Women are mostly pros anyway!
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[B]Daddies, Dates, and the Girlfriend Experience: Welcome to the New Prostitution Economy[/B]
[I]A growing number of young people are selling their bodies online to pay student loans, make the rent, or afford designer labels. Is it just an unorthodox way to make ends meet or a new kind of exploitation? Nancy Jo Sales investigates.[/I]
BY NANCY JO SALESJULY 7, 2016 8:00 AM.
Full article here: [URL]http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2016/07/welcome-to-the-new-prostitution-economy[/URL].
MONEY SHOT:
[I]"Shes a pro, murmurs the young guy at the bar at Vandal, the hot new restaurant on New Yorks Lower East Side. And so is she. Hes cocking his head toward some women in the room who are drinking alone. How do you know?, I ask. You know, says the guy. They let you know.
The thing is, nowadays, says his friend (they both work in real estate), theres the hidden hos. Like theyre hos, but they pretend to be just some regular girl hitting you up on Tinder.
I hate that, the first guy says. The hidden hoochies.
The ho-ishness, the second guy says, is everywhere. I used to take girls out to dinner, but then Id see theyd eat and bounce; they just want a free meal so now its no more dinner, just drinks."[/I]
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1907349]As it turns out, all American Women are mostly pros anyway![/QUOTE]Hmph, typical USA bullshit. This article and the phony POS it depicts have turned fucking into some kind of art class. Daddies huh. That's what "men" want to be called? How about I give you your money , and you get the fuck out my house! No dinner, no talking-just go! So glad am OUT the country.
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[QUOTE=Ezinho;1907305]It's funny you bring this story up. I work in an industry in the USA Where a majority of the employees are women. We recently had an employee that felt "uncomfortable" when a client was with her. I asked her specifically what happened but she was being vague and was just saying she felt uncomfortable around him. Apparently she told our manager about this and because of what happened we now have panic buttons in every office. Pressing the button goes straight to the local police department and an officer will be sent to investigate! All because an AW felt uncomfortable![/QUOTE]Oh, I believe it. Both of my supervisors are women, and I keep conversation with them short AF. I'm not friendly with a damn soul at work. I'll admit, the reasons are more general to human nature than women and the panic button, but don't think for one second I don't know what time it is. It's sad that it has to be this way in America / the west, but at least we're all interested in travelling and can share knowledge with one another so that we don't end up with shit like that.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1907349]As it turns out, all American Women are mostly pros anyway!
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[B]Daddies, Dates, and the Girlfriend Experience: Welcome to the New Prostitution Economy[/B]
[I]A growing number of young people are selling their bodies online to pay student loans, make the rent, or afford designer labels. Is it just an unorthodox way to make ends meet or a new kind of exploitation? Nancy Jo Sales investigates.[/I]
BY NANCY JO SALESJULY 7, 2016 8:00 AM.
Full article here: [URL]http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2016/07/welcome-to-the-new-prostitution-economy[/URL]...[/QUOTE]It really makes you wonder. Makes ME wonder, anyway, how things got so backwards. I've seen hookers with more personality and sweetness than the average western girl.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1907349]
[B]Daddies, Dates, and the Girlfriend Experience: Welcome to the New Prostitution Economy[/B]
[I]A growing number of young people are selling their bodies online to pay student loans, make the rent, or afford designer labels. Is it just an unorthodox way to make ends meet or a new kind of exploitation? Nancy Jo Sales investigates.[/I][/QUOTE]Something that exists in Asia for decades already. I don't understand why people get so upset over it.
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[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1908498]Something that exists in Asia for decades already. I don't understand why people get so upset over it.[/QUOTE]And in Latin America.
I think the big takeaway from this article is that there are a lot of American Women on dating apps like Tinder and OK Cupid masquerading as "good girls" just looking for a boyfriend when in fact they are just hos looking for guys to buy them shit like dinners, handbags, pay their rent, etc. They aren't even proper hookers: at least a hooker will tell you the price for her services upfront!
For me, "If it fucks, floats, or flies, it's always cheaper to rent it".
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Exclusive love and eternal loyalty
These Sugar Babies are just dishonest and gold-digging hookers. They figure they can make more money that way than being clear and honest about exchanging how much money for how much sex like cheap hos.
The second I find anyone playing dishonest games with me, I would put together a game strategy to deal with them in kind.
Re. Renting vs buying, the deep feelings of exclusive love and eternal loyalty that people yearn for can get boring fairly quickly. I would much rather find faithful love and eternal loyalty with new girls every weekend.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1908704]And in Latin America.
I think the big takeaway from this article is that there are a lot of American Women on dating apps like Tinder and OK Cupid masquerading as "good girls" just looking for a boyfriend when in fact they are just hos looking for guys to buy them shit like dinners, handbags, pay their rent, etc. They aren't even proper hookers: at least a hooker will tell you the price for her services upfront!
For me, "If it fucks, floats, or flies, it's always cheaper to rent it".[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1908498]Something that exists in Asia for decades already. I don't understand why people get so upset over it.[/QUOTE]Parents don't want to think of their daughters as Ho's. They rather think they are fucking for love which we know is Bullshit.
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Soooo-ey!
[URL]http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/police-weight-of-riders-in-fatal-water-slide-accident-was-within-limits/ar-BBvHiUC?li=BBnbcA1[/URL]
The two woman on the ride weighed a total of 472 pounds. 214 kg. I'm in Oregon now and even most of the women at the gym I go to are fat. Fat, fat, fat. It makes me want to puke.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;1923424][URL]http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/police-weight-of-riders-in-fatal-water-slide-accident-was-within-limits/ar-BBvHiUC?li=BBnbcA1[/URL]
The two woman on the ride weighed a total of 472 pounds. 214 kg. I'm in Oregon now and even most of the women at the gym I go to are fat. Fat, fat, fat. It makes me want to puke.[/QUOTE]So this poor kid literally died of whiplash due to the hippos seated behind him that caused the water ride to hurtle down the slide at twice the original speed!
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1908704]And in Latin America.
I think the big takeaway from this article is that there are a lot of American Women on dating apps like Tinder and OK Cupid masquerading as "good girls" just looking for a boyfriend when in fact they are just hos looking for guys to buy them shit like dinners, handbags, pay their rent, etc. They aren't even proper hookers: at least a hooker will tell you the price for her services upfront!
women Like The Whole Sugar Daddy concept because deep down they don't want the shame of being labeled a hooker, what they are doing is no different from what a hookers on the street does. They just don't want the label or shame. Just like guys. Some of my guy friends swear up and down they cannot see themselves buying pussy from a hooker, but they will spend thousands of dollars on drinks, clothes and expensive cars just to impress women. Either way you do it directly on indirectly but its all a ego thing.
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Not the Christian right
[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1903504]What a pussy country! Fully clothed Hooters girl sponsoring scouts causes outrage! You see more tits on an Italian beach!
And they have less sexual hangups, and I'm sure less r8 pists and child molesters. Fucking right wing Christian right at work again!
[URL]https://gma.yahoo.com/parents-outraged-learn-local-hooters-sponsored-cub-scout-184215159--abc-news-topstories.html[/URL]#.[/QUOTE]It was Denver so I doubt is the Christian Right. It is the feminazi movement that has anyone with a pair grabbed by them.
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Well, Colorado Springs is just down the road from Denver, and is the exact geographic center of right-wing, religious, gun-nut assholes. There is bound to be some contagion to the surrounding areas.
If I wanted to give the US an enema, I would stick the nozzle right in Colorado Springs.
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[QUOTE=LatinBound;1923626]It is the feminazi movement that has anyone with a pair grabbed by them.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dickhead;1923710]right-wing, religious, gun-nut assholes. [/QUOTE]As I sit here in Nairobi, a city with some of the worst roads I have ever seen. A city with corrupt cops I have to bribe to drive, and I risk robbery when I leave the safety of my hotel, I am still 1000 x happier here banging twenty-something's, than to be in my own country.
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Women have say
As long as a man wants some pussy, then a woman is going to have some say! But let me say this right here and right now though. At this point in my life, no way am I going to let a woman walk into my life, and then walk out of it with a legitimate claim to half of everything I've been working for just because she spread her legs and / or butt cheeks open. That's not about to happen Junior! Not here and not now. Not ever!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1925391]At this point in my life, no way am I going to let a woman walk into my life, and then walk out of it with a legitimate claim to half of everything I've been working for just because she spread her legs and / or butt cheeks open. That's not about to happen Junior! Not here and not now. Not ever![/QUOTE]How selfish of you not to have shared this wisdom with our dear friend Johnny Depp (LOL)!
Married only 18 months and ex-wife clears $7MM:
[URL]http://www.tmz.com/2016/08/16/amber-heard-johnny-depp-settlement-domestic-violence-divorce/[/URL]
And bullshit with the "Domestic Violence" claim. Clearly this bish just wanted to be free to chase strange dick again:
[B]A smiling Amber Heard puts divorce drama with Johnny Depp behind her as she parties with Margot Robbie and Cara Delevingne[/b]
[URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3751427/Amber-Heard-puts-messy-divorce-Johnny-Depp-parties-List-pals-Margot-Robbie-Cara-Delevingne-London.html[/URL]
How long do you think it will be before some beta chump asks her to marry him?
It's this simple guys:
Man and woman marry and have kids:
> Man cheats. Woman files for divorce. Woman gets alimony and kids (at minimum). Woman wins.
> Woman cheats. Man files for divorce. Woman gets alimony and kids (at minimum). Woman wins.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1925366]As I sit here in Nairobi, a city with some of the worst roads I have ever seen. A city with corrupt cops I have to bribe to drive, and I risk robbery when I leave the safety of my hotel, I am still 1000 x happier here banging twenty-something's, than to be in my own country.[/QUOTE]Western-style democracy leads to gynocentrism and is incompatible with men having a life.
When people talk about fighting corruption, what do they mean? They mean eradicating the loopholes that enable men to have a life.
We should count ourselves lucky that there are States like Iran and heads of States like Putin, to name but a few. Otherwise the whole World would be in the hands of the Clintons and the misandric lesbian establishment of Britain, Canada, Australia, Sweden, .
The only reason men in the West are still issued with passports is because they need to travel for business and bring money back to the plantation. But that could change.
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[QUOTE=XXL;1925476]Western-style democracy leads to gynocentrism and is incompatible with men having a life.[/QUOTE]So you would rather to have been born in a non western style democratic country with a greater chance of being poor and/or politically/religiously oppressed? You probably would not even need an ISG then, but maybe you would have all the pussy you could stand so there would be no need for it anyway. Oops. I forgot. Them boys in Iran can't get no pussy either!
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1925501]So you would rather to have been born in a non western style democratic country with a greater chance of being poor and/or politically/religiously oppressed? You probably would not even need an ISG then, but maybe you would have all the pussy you could stand so there would be no need for it anyway. Oops. I forgot. Them boys in Iran can't get no pussy either![/QUOTE]You are woefully ignorant of what you go on about. First try a search for "prositution Iran" in Youtube and see what you get. Iran has no jobs for women, prostitution is everywhere.
I'm sure you have known all along that if you marry in Iran the wifes stays with you, period. If she walks out on you, you keep the children and she gets an alimony equals zero. This is something a Western man can only dream of in his democracy, where he can look at himself in the mirror and see an owned fool.
But that is no even the end of the story: iranian men don't need to marry to have a girl. They go to the muslim cleric to "register" a girl for a short-term marriage and there it is, free bareback sex with a girl at home! Men can do so as often as they wish. If I remember right someone in ISG once explained how this extraordinary system works. Oops here's the link:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?916-General-Info
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[QUOTE=XXL;1925866]This is something a Western man can only dream of in his democracy, where he can look at himself in the mirror and see an owned fool.
But that is no even the end of the story: iranian men don't need to marry to have a girl. They go to the muslim cleric to "register" a girl for a short-term marriage and there it is, free bareback sex with a girl at home! Men can do so as often as they wish. [/QUOTE]So why haven't you moved to Iran in order to take full advantage of all of that green grass that Iran has to offer?
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1925972]So why haven't you moved to Iran in order to take full advantage of all of that green grass that Iran has to offer?[/QUOTE]Maybe he doesn't want to wear a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord132][CodeWord132][/url] on his head.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1925972]So why haven't you moved to Iran in order to take full advantage of all of that green grass that Iran has to offer?[/QUOTE]I am not the one who is inconsistent, you are. You are happy to have been born in a democracy but you can't wait to get on a plane away from it.
Democracy has a life-cycle. After some number of years it degenerates to a feminist police State.
The moment Thailand becomes a democracy and free of corruption no one on this forum will want to go to Thailand any more.
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[QUOTE=XXL;1926345]I am not the one who is inconsistent, you are. You are happy to have been born in a democracy but you can't wait to get on a plane away from it.
Democracy has a life-cycle. After some number of years it degenerates to a feminist police State.
The moment Thailand becomes a democracy and free of corruption no one on this forum will want to go to Thailand any more.[/QUOTE]I am not inconsistent at all. And I am smart enough to know that the reason I am able to do the things I do now is because of where I was born. I know where my bread is buttered. Now what are your plans for moving to Iran so that you can get away from the feminist police State that you so much dread?
P.S. No country is free of corruption. The Philippines is a democracy, Dominican Republic is democracy, Brazil is also a democracy; and there is no shortage of ISG reports on either place.
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Are you guys calling The West a democracy?
Are you sure we live in a democracy?
Are you sure we are the developed one and they are the developing countries?
Well, I'm not sure at all.
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Man shot, killed for not holding door open for woman
A 31-year-old man was shot and killed outside of a North Las Vegas McDonald's, reportedly after getting into an argument with a woman for not holding open the door for her, KSNV reports.
According to the report, Mohammad Robinson got into an argument with a woman who was upset that the door to the McDonald's was not being held open for her. The woman reportedly went and notified a man she was with about the incident, and that man pulled out a firearm and fatally wounded the 31-year-old father.
"It was a stupid reason honestly, irrelevant. It doesn't make any sense why would you actually take someone's life over not opening a door," Robinson's 14-year-old daughter Miniya Sampson told the news station. "It's horrible. I want my dad back and you took him away from me!
Robinson's best friend reportedly witnessed the shooting, Sampson said.
Police are looking for the suspect, the station notes, and are hoping that surveillance footage from the McDonald's will give some leads.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXUc0h99Z6s[/URL]
It appears that avoiding American women is not enough to keep men safe these days. They claim to be strong and independent, they do not need men for anything except holding doors open for them and murdering other men on their behalf. For some reason the media has not given a description of this entitled AW and her minion. I am willing to bet she told him quite a different story to manipulative him into murdering the victim. It also shows just what many sexually deprived American men are willing to do to impress women for a little pussy access.
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1929964]It appears that avoiding American women is not enough to keep men safe these days. They claim to be strong and independent, they do not need men for anything except holding doors open for them and murdering other men on their behalf. For some reason the media has not given a description of this entitled AW and her minion. I am willing to bet she told him quite a different story to manipulative him into murdering the victim. It also shows just what many sexually deprived American men are willing to do to impress women for a little pussy access.[/QUOTE]I could not have said it better. It makes you ashamed to be American. We are supposed to be the shining example of freedom and democracy, but in reality, just laughing stock for the madness and hypocrisy.
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"Let he who battles monsters take heed, lest he become one himself. ".
There is wisdom all over that quote. I'm reading the newest posts since I've been here last, including the recent ones about that shooting at McDonald's. It's important that we don't fall into Happier Abroad / MGTOW syndrome and put this all on women. With that shooting, it wasn't a woman who forced the man to take the innocent father's life; the man, at the end of the day, chose to whip out his pistol. Accountability is shared across the board between sexes. Yes, western women are on some other shit, but we can't count out the men either. Most in the west are just as scummy as their female counterparts, and those of us who have a bit of sense left need to check them both.
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Men's rights= Radical Islam?
[QUOTE=NoobTraveller;1933591]"Let he who battles monsters take heed, lest he become one himself. ".
There is wisdom all over that quote. I'm reading the newest posts since I've been here last, including the recent ones about that shooting at McDonald's. It's important that we don't fall into Happier Abroad / MGTOW syndrome and put this all on women. With that shooting, it wasn't a woman who forced the man to take the innocent father's life; the man, at the end of the day, chose to whip out his pistol. Accountability is shared across the board between sexes. Yes, western women are on some other shit, but we can't count out the men either. Most in the west are just as scummy as their female counterparts, and those of us who have a bit of sense left need to check them both.[/QUOTE]Opposing radical feminism and white knighthood does not make one a radical Islamist. It is a fact that American women claim to be egalitarian while clinging to outdated concepts such as chivalry which benefits them. They still expect men to open doors for them, pay for their meals, and sacrifice themselves in the face of grave danger to save women. One cannot say the woman did not force her partner to murder the father for failing to open the door for her. No one heard what she said to him in the parking lot. She may have demanded that he "man up" and make the other guy respect her, or she may have lied and claimed that he sexually harassed her. What we do know is that she started the confrontation and that makes her responsible for having stirred the pot. Of course, her man was weak because he failed to let her know that strangers are not obligated to hold doors open for her. However, the fact remains that she set the chain of events in motion that led to the fatal outcome. Women do this all the time and this is hardly an isolated incident. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L59pqdhiL68[/URL].
It is true that men who take Western white knighting concepts to places abroad like the Philippines and Thailand are often fleeced of all their assets due to doing foolish things like buying houses and land under their girlfriend's or wife's name in an attempt to circumvent laws in those countries restricting foreign ownership of land and businesses. However, when it comes to dealing with women abroad, men are generally happier in countries that lack radical feminist ideologies and the mechanisms to enforce them. If anything, American men can be blamed for continuing to enter relationships where American women who now earn their own money are allowed to engage in financial parasitism. In the USA, even ugly middle-aged women refuse to go on dates if they know the guy intends to split the bill. American women only claim to believe in gender equality when it benefits them. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQPFf_tho94[/URL].
Accountability should be shared equally across the sexes. That is how it should be, not how it is in reality. MGTOW is just a reaction to a society and family court system that is biased towards women at great expense to men. There is nothing wrong with MGTOW syndrome. It is a rational reaction for men to refuse to enter marital contracts, fatherhood, and dating relationships that have severe negative financial and emotional consequences for them. Any man who mongers has MGTOW syndrome to a certain degree. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fuar7ncfarE[/URL].
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1929964]A 31-year-old man was shot and killed outside of a North Las Vegas McDonald's, reportedly after getting into an argument with a woman for not holding open the door for her, KSNV reports.
According to the report, Mohammad Robinson got into an argument with a woman who was upset that the door to the McDonald's was not being held open for her. The woman reportedly went and notified a man she was with about the incident, and that man pulled out a firearm and fatally wounded the 31-year-old father.
"It was a stupid reason honestly, irrelevant. It doesn't make any sense why would you actually take someone's life over not opening a door," Robinson's 14-year-old daughter Miniya Sampson told the news station. "It's horrible. I want my dad back and you took him away from me!
Robinson's best friend reportedly witnessed the shooting, Sampson said.
Police are looking for the suspect, the station notes, and are hoping that surveillance footage from the McDonald's will give some leads.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXUc0h99Z6s[/URL]
It appears that avoiding American women is not enough to keep men safe these days. They claim to be strong and independent, they do not need men for anything except holding doors open for them and murdering other men on their behalf. For some reason the media has not given a description of this entitled AW and her minion. I am willing to bet she told him quite a different story to manipulative him into murdering the victim. It also shows just what many sexually deprived American men are willing to do to impress women for a little pussy access.[/QUOTE]What's worse is the Police caught this guy and then let him escape by walking out an interview room. What worthless fucks.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1925366]As I sit here in Nairobi, a city with some of the worst roads I have ever seen. A city with corrupt cops I have to bribe to drive, and I risk robbery when I leave the safety of my hotel, I am still 1000 x happier here banging twenty-something's, than to be in my own country.[/QUOTE]You seem to despise Nairobi too much have seen a lot of your posts, If you hate it that much why don't you leave the country and stick to your women and your developed country, all you westerners think yourself 'all that' , most of you are old losers that could not be laid in your own country, sleeping with sleazy cheap women because of your dollars, [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue].
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[QUOTE=KGunner;1933859]You seem to despise Nairobi too much have seen a lot of your posts, ][/QUOTE]Your one post (and admonishment by admin) reflects complete lack of reading comprehension. Actually, your correct sir! I DO HATE the corrupt politicians, horrible customer service, bad food, pot holes in all the roads, corrupt police, and sooooo much more in Kenya-but OMG, the phat asses on the women keep bringing me back! I would say the addiction would be comparable to cocaine! If your from there, I'm sure you hate all that bad shit too! The only thing I hear from Kenyan women is that they are done with Kenyan men due to the pump, and dump, and run of baby daddies. Many of those "sleazy" women are fucking me because they won't MAN UP!Pay for your kids!
No one here would generalize ALL western women as bad- we have mothers and sisters too. We all, however, at one time or another, been completely fucked over by the system that some women take full advantage of to steal our shit for pure spite. If you were an American, you would be pissed about the power that woman ABUSE us with too! Dude, at the end of the day, yep, I will continue to take my old ass to your country, and fuck your young women, that love to let me. KG, next time, take it to the Kenya section my good man. In this forum we don't usually complain to other men about what they think about the country.
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AA women
[QUOTE=LarryDavid;1891164]Per The Guardian:
[URL]http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/08/four-in-10-american-women-classified-obese-epidemic[/URL]
Obesity, which means not merely overweight, but seriously overweight, is considered one of the nation's leading public health problems because it can trigger diabetes and lead to heart disease and other serious health problems. Until the early 1980's, only about one in six adults were obese.
Researchers looked at obesity rates among different age groups and along racial lines and found wide disparities, mainly ones that have persisted for years.
Obesity continues to be most common among black women. About 57% of black women are obese. In contrast, about 47% of Hispanic women, 38% of white women, and 12% of Asian women are obese.[/QUOTE]I believe it is closer to 70% of Adult African Americans are obese, with a large percentage of those morbidly obese. At least that was what I recall the government statistics being. I work with a large number of AA women and I would say nearly half are morbidly obese. There are only a few younger, svelte, and attractive AA women who look like they could run the 440 with ease. But, they are aware of their special status and are a bit snooty. The remainder of these girls can be very disgusting or very sweet-natured. Not much middle ground when it comes to character.
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[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1935351]I believe it is closer to 70% of Adult African Americans are obese, with a large percentage of those morbidly obese. At least that was what I recall the government statistics being. I work with a large number of AA women and I would say nearly half are morbidly obese. There are only a few younger, svelte, and attractive AA women who look like they could run the 440 with ease. But, they are aware of their special status and are a bit snooty. The remainder of these girls can be very disgusting or very sweet-natured. Not much middle ground when it comes to character.[/QUOTE]More than snooty, downright biatchez! They will only talk to the highest bidders. If your not picking them up in a six-figure car, for a three-figure dinner your history. Sadly, AA women seek comfort in food and each other at a point in their lives. The chances of remarrying ( if they ever did in the first place) after a certain age plummet. Hmmm, think I'll go bang some sleaze in Nairobi!
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The evolution of gender equality in America
Video showing behavior and expectations between men and women pre-feminism and post-feminism. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfOqjDWSfCo[/URL].
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I don't need a video to know that the country is totally hypocritical in sooooo many ways, and when it comes to sex, a man pays for it through marriage, or the dating ritual, but direct payment is not an option-punishable by shame, jail and loss of what you work for all your life. This has been determined by women and the Christian right. If your an single older man your forced to pay homage, and ass kiss fat, menopausal biatches with much attitude just to partake in what is simply a natural act! Fuck the USA!
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1936564]I don't need a video to know that the country is totally hypocritical in sooooo many ways, and when it comes to sex, a man pays for it through marriage, or the dating ritual, but direct payment is not an option-punishable by shame, jail and loss of what you work for all your life. This has been determined by women and the Christian right. If your an single older man your forced to pay homage, and ass kiss fat, menopausal biatches with much attitude just to partake in what is simply a natural act! Fuck the USA![/QUOTE]Whenever I see a post by Gunz, I always read it and I couldn't agree more on your take. Sadly I'm stuck here in the ole USA but I'll be damned if I'm kissing some angry flabbers ass for a little cooch luckily I have a few pros that I can go to too take care of me. I'll be in Bogota in January and out of sex jail if only for a few days but it's better than most of the sapps that are stuck here 365 having to deal with some of these shrews who walk around thinking their you know what doesn't stink.
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[QUOTE=Drf1987;1936606]Whenever I see a post by Gunz, I always read it and I couldn't agree more on your take. [/QUOTE]Thanks pal. I bought into the whole Victorian bullshyt thing because I did not have a real male mentor while coming up. It was supposed to be family, marriage and the white picket fence- not to mention the Brady Bunch style of television brainwashing the entire country in the old days. After two marriages, I can only look back at a whole bunch of money, and time down the drain chasing what is not real. Families are totally dysfunctional behind closed doors, and women will never accept 50% of the blame when relationships fail. It's always the mans fault.
Good for you and Colombia. I get intimidated by the language barrier. I work in the Gulf, so I go after Asians or Africans.
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1933732]Opposing radical feminism and white knighthood does not make one a radical Islamist.[/QUOTE]I don't recall anyone here having an opinion even remotely comparable to this.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1933732]One cannot say the woman did not force her partner to murder the father for failing to open the door for her. No one heard what she said to him in the parking lot. She may have demanded that he "man up" and make the other guy respect her, or she may have lied and claimed that he sexually harassed her. What we do know is that she started the confrontation and that makes her responsible for having stirred the pot. Of course, her man was weak because he failed to let her know that strangers are not obligated to hold doors open for her. However, the fact remains that she set the chain of events in motion that led to the fatal outcome. Women do this all the time and this is hardly an isolated incident.[/QUOTE]But that's just it. She didn't force him to do anything. Unless she threatened him with damage to life or limb (or liberty, within reason), she did not 'force' him to incite violence against the man. While she shares some of the blame, he earns +90% of the blame because he chose to pull the trigger. That is fact. Moreover, women do not do this "all the time", because if they did, there would be very few men alive today. I wouldn't even say it happens most of the time, as it's the first I'm hearing of a story like this. The closest analogue would be the wolf criers. The women who say they were raped when they really weren't. Even then, it doesn't happen all the time, and the men are still to blame, as these females have certain signs and indicators that can be spotted a mile away. I DO however, have sympathy for the minority of good men who let vaginal heat fog their vision, allowing them to fall into traps like these.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1933732]It is true that men who take Western white knighting concepts to places abroad like the Philippines and Thailand are often fleeced of all their assets due to doing foolish things like buying houses and land under their girlfriend's or wife's name in an attempt to circumvent laws in those countries restricting foreign ownership of land and businesses. However, when it comes to dealing with women abroad, men are generally happier in countries that lack radical feminist ideologies and the mechanisms to enforce them. If anything, American men can be blamed for continuing to enter relationships where American women who now earn their own money are allowed to engage in financial parasitism. In the USA, even ugly middle-aged women refuse to go on dates if they know the guy intends to split the bill. American women only claim to believe in gender equality when it benefits them. [/QUOTE]This is agreeable. Some men make mistakes, but when your dating history is nothing but crazies, it's time to look in the mirror. Personally, I'm of the Tom Leykis variety, where one sign of nonsense and you're out (or I am; take your pick). Saves a lot of stress. Believe me.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1933732]Accountability should be shared equally across the sexes. That is how it should be, not how it is in reality.[/QUOTE]Which is exactly what I said in my first comment. It may not be how it is in society, but that's how I run things in my sphere. If you're part of my crew but you father a bunch of kids you cannot / will not support, you're not hanging around us. If you're a drug-addicted wife-beater, you're out. On the flip side, if you're an ain't-shit female who spreads her legs for every tatted moron (creating kids she cannot / will not support / without fathers), you're out. If you're a mattress victim, you're out. Men and women are expected to be of some merit if they come around my peeps. But that's just me.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1933732]MGTOW is just a reaction to a society and family court system that is biased towards women at great expense to men. There is nothing wrong with MGTOW syndrome. It is a rational reaction for men to refuse to enter marital contracts, fatherhood, and dating relationships that have severe negative financial and emotional consequences for them. Any man who mongers has MGTOW syndrome to a certain degree.[/QUOTE]There is everything wrong with MGTOW syndrome. Day by day, it (d) evolves into something akin to male feminism / meninism. I'm a monger and I have zero trace of MGTOW anything. It was interesting when I first discovered it, but once I dug deeper I found it was becoming, you guessed it, another abyss. Certain communities censor other men (censorship is a feminist fixation), treat other men who don't "fit the mold" like trash (which is what feminists do to non / anti-feminist women; "internalized misogyny! And put too much focus on being like them rather than helping other men (as seen in a lot of MGTOW forums' intro post requirements). I'm a self-improvement junkie, and personally, MGTOW has the opportunity to be something grand. Now that men get the deal with women, why not shift the dialogue to self-improvement? Finance, skill development, actualization, passion, etc. You get the point, I'm sure. Yet, the dialogue is still mainly about women, and when a man comes along and suggests a shift, he gets berated as a "covert blue pill pussy beggar".
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[QUOTE=NoobTraveller;1939653]I DO however, have sympathy for the minority of good men who let vaginal heat fog their vision, allowing them to fall into traps like these.[/QUOTE]Yeah, like marriage! Damn that vaginal heat! Can't help ma self, because it feel sooooooooooooooooo good!
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Brad Pitt is going to be on child support!
Seems like Brad Pitt fell for the adopt-the-kids scheme. After he adopted the kids, putting himself on the hook legally for child support, Angelina sneak attacked him with the divorce and full-custody lawsuit. I wonder if he thinks playing daddy was worth it. [URL]http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/gossip/la-et-mg-jolie-pitt-divorce-legal-issues-20160920-snap-story.html[/URL].
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1939859]Seems like Brad Pitt fell for the adopt-the-kids scheme. After he adopted the kids, putting himself on the hook legally for child support, Angelina sneak attacked him with the divorce and full-custody lawsuit. I wonder if he thinks playing daddy was worth it. [URL]http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/gossip/la-et-mg-jolie-pitt-divorce-legal-issues-20160920-snap-story.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]And now some alleged child abuse is being thrown in just to make sure the case against him sticks! A long time ago I asked a friend of mine why women do this shit. His response was brief, accurate, and to the point. It's because they can!
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SO WHAT! Phony Republicans wanted an outsider, and non-politician, so when they get the hero-to-the-average-guy, they're all over him about some private pussy talk. Just like the pizza man Cain, pussy is taking Trump down. Just cut off your balls, women truly are in charge of the USA. Just hand the torch to Hillary and forget the farce of an election.
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Herman Cain was a real dumb ass, but I did like the part when he said, "If they ask me 'What's the capital of Iran-a-fran-agan-istan?' I'mana say 'I doan know!
I'm in Spain now and the feminist movement is pretty strong, but at least the women, be they feminists or not, don't weigh 200 pounds and look like they got dumped out of a vacuum cleaner bag.
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The Spin never Stops
Trump is not being called out for pussy talk by rational people he's being called out for his views and approach that powerful men can approach women and kiss them, grab them by their pussies or do anything and get away with it because of their (the men) star status in life. If you're a civilized male and find this kind of behavior acceptable then you should have no problem when it happens to your mother, daughter, sister, wife or someone you care about or love. Politicians are all dishonest creatures and there is an over-abundance of spin on all sides but Trump's new story has nothing to do with feminism but all to do with his antiquated views and approach even if many of his fellow politicians and all sides share his views.
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[QUOTE=RunMann;1946888]If you're a civilized male and find this kind of behavior acceptable then you should have no problem when it happens to your mother, daughter, sister, wife or someone you care about or love. [/QUOTE]For a minute there I thought you were talking about Bill Clinton.
As far as Trump, only Betas/White Knights/Manginas would be upset at something like this. Crowing about being a "Civilized Male" on you facebook timeline is still not going to get you laid, lmao. Feminists use guys like to you to further their agendas. They don't want to have sex with you though. You neckbeards stay losing.
"Simp'in ain't easy..."
[b]Simp [Definition][/b]
-A man that puts himself in a subservient/submissive position under women in hopes of winning them over, without the female bringing anything to the table.
-A man that puts too much value on a female for no reason.
-A man that prides himself with "Chivalry" in hopes of getting sexual gratification form women.
-S.I.M.P.
S omeone
I dolizing
M ediocore
P ussy
[b]Simps and B!tches[/b]
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHABRrO91ZU&list=PLdxYht-dp7Kx-XcmpjQsyZmJgN0QnJ9Mc&index=13[/url]
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Water water everywhere...
What's the fucking point of becoming rich and famous when all it takes is for some pissed-off s!ut to ruin your career (or try to) by claiming you r@ped her? This guys has a net worth of $70MM and even if he beats this case, he still has his name dragged through the mud in the process. No love for this guy, BTW. I don't even watch basketball. But I ran across this story in a news feed and it really pissed me off:
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[B]Derrick Rose testifies in r@pe lawsuit trial that he thought he was being set up[/B]
LOS ANGELES -- The night after Derrick Rose and two of his friends had sex with his ex-girlfriend, he had a hunch she was going to claim they raped her, the New York Knicks star testified Tuesday.
Rose said he became suspicious of the woman when she texted later the same day of the alleged early morning attack in August 2013 to say how inebriated she had been and to describe burns she claimed she got on her hands from a fire pit outside his Beverly Hills house. Rose said he believed she was sober and never witnessed any burns the night before.
"It looked like a setup," Rose said. "It turned out to be what I thought. ".
Rose testified for a second day in the $21.5 million lawsuit that claims he and his friends had sex without the woman's consent when she was incapacitated from drinking and, possibly, drugs.
The woman claims the three entered her apartment and had sex with her while she was blacked out after drinking tequila at Rose's rental house earlier and other booze she had before she got there.
FULL ARTICLE: [URL]http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17771407/new-york-knicks-star-derrick-rose-testifies-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]-lawsuit-trial-thought-was-being-set-up[/URL].
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1948645]What's the fucking point of becoming rich and famous when all it takes is for some pissed-off s!ut to ruin your career (or try to) by claiming you r@ped her? [/QUOTE]In this climate a guy would have to be really stupid to fuck any woman (esp a black guy and white woman) that's had even one drink, much less drunk and smiling. The next day she will remember what happened, start feeling used and disrespected, and call a lawyer- not the police. These guys have to know that there is a world full of much easier pussy OUTSIDE the borders of the women empowered USA. I don't even look at American women when I'm there anymore. Aside from all the fat and attitude they are not worth the effort. I just break out the lube and surf to YouPorn!
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I agree with NG in theory but would point out that I would have to be pretty drunk myself to fuck these American sows, and also that including training camp or pre-season, these athletes are chained to the Yew Ess for about eight months, and that is a long time to go without pussy when you are young and dum and full of cum. Just sayin'.
Being famous, I think, would be a negative always and anywhere. Just get rich and keep a low profile.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1948668]In this climate a guy would have to be really stupid to fuck any woman (esp a black guy and white woman) that's had even one drink, much less drunk and smiling. The next day she will remember what happened, start feeling used and disrespected, and call a lawyer- not the police. These guys have to know that there is a world full of much easier pussy OUTSIDE the borders of the women empowered USA. I don't even look at American women when I'm there anymore. Aside from all the fat and attitude they are not worth the effort. I just break out the lube and surf to YouPorn![/QUOTE]Most guys don't know about the offerings outside the USA. That is why they continue in the ridiculous pursuit of American women.
First rule of having money if your a man in the US. Some women will do anything to get a piece of it.
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They don't just want a piece, TA, they want as much as they can get. At least HALF. PLUS your balls are in a vice AND you are subject to endless emotional drivel PLUS you MIGHT get a half-assed piece of overweight ass and a mediocre blowjob but it is more work than a effin job and YOU PAY IT ALL!
[QUOTE=TellAll;1948943]Most guys don't know about the offerings outside the USA. That is why they continue in the ridiculous pursuit of American women.
First rule of having money if your a man in the US. Some women will do anything to get a piece of it.[/QUOTE].
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Bingo!
[QUOTE=Dickhead;1948828]Being famous, I think, would be a negative always and anywhere. Just get rich and keep a low profile.[/QUOTE]Short and sweet and to the point! I just read an article about a brother who nobody knows about who made a fortune in the low-key enterprise application software market. Now his shit is out of the bag! Watch out! Here them greedy women come! That's if his new white wife doesn't take him down first LOL!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1950090]Short and sweet and to the point! I just read an article about a brother who nobody knows about who made a fortune in the low-key enterprise application software market. Now his shit is out of the bag! Watch out! Here them greedy women come! That's if his new white wife doesn't take him down first LOL![/QUOTE]I don't agree that because she is white she will "take him down", however, I wonder if she would have given him a serious thought of marriage if he were not rich. Some many beautiful Caucasian women with these athletes would not even give an average Black guy a second look. Women, like everybody else, take the path of least resistance. Want quick money? Marry a dumb Black jock with a contract.
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But, did he lie?
[QUOTE=RunMann;1946888]Trump is not being called out for pussy talk by rational people he's being called out for his views and approach that powerful men can approach women and kiss them, grab them by their pussies or do anything and get away with it because of their (the men) star status in life. If you're a civilized male and find this kind of behavior acceptable then you should have no problem when it happens to your mother, daughter, sister, wife or someone you care about or love. Politicians are all dishonest creatures and there is an over-abundance of spin on all sides but Trump's new story has nothing to do with feminism but all to do with his antiquated views and approach even if many of his fellow politicians and all sides share his views.[/QUOTE]Trump was pointing out a fact of life in American society. American women do tend to welcome or at least tolerate rich and powerful men grabbing them by their pussies when it suits them. A civilized male should look at a female relative with great suspicion if she only comes forward to claim that some rich powerful man grabbed her by her pussy decades ago only after the guy is embroiled in a political scandal in the media. Thinking men should be asking why these women only seem to remember being grabbed by the pussy when there is some publicity and money to be gained from that memory. What else have these women chosen to forget or not mention over the last couple decades?
Women that only remember alleged abuses decades later at opportune moments are the sort of women that suddenly remember fucking their husband's best friend but only after 40 years of marriage when their husband has nothing more to give and nowhere to go. Then she will remember in every detail as she confesses to her husband with the full expectation that he will understand and forgive her in one final act of submission before he gasps his final breath of a lifetime of self-sacrifice.
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1951176]Trump was pointing out a fact of life in American society. American women do tend to welcome or at least tolerate rich and powerful men grabbing them by their pussies when it suits them..[/QUOTE]And your evidence to support this alleged "fact" is? Would love to read/see something empirical and or tangible other than the Trump line of 'believe me' to support his and your facts.
Powerful men like former FOX News Boss Roger "I like skirts" Ailes, Bill "what are you wearing" O'Reilly, President Bill "slick Willie" Clinton, Mike "predator"Tyson are all men who encountered American women who did not welcome their grabbing/touching and unwanted advances and all these men paid dearly for their misdeeds, some more than others.
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1951176]American women do tend to welcome or at least tolerate rich and powerful men grabbing them by their pussies [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RunMann;1952157]Powerful men like former FOX News Boss Roger "I like skirts" Ailes, Bill "what are you wearing" O'Reilly, President Bill "slick Willie" Clinton, Mike "predator"Tyson .[/QUOTE]Actually, I think you both are reflecting old incidents, and an old mind set (1990's and back) from before this new millennium. All the men mentioned are now old guys that had all their previous indiscretions come back to haunt them later, except Iron Mike because his was more of a crime than the others. He was just too dumb to know which women to fuck.
There in no way women will let somebody grab their ass, much less pussy these days. I would not even do that in a third world country. The girl and the cops will know a payday when they see one.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1952541] Actually, I think you both are reflecting old incidents, and an old mind set (1990's and back) from before this new millennium. All the men mentioned are now old guys that had all their previous indiscretions come back to haunt them later, except Iron Mike because his was more of a crime than the others. He was just too dumb to know which women to fuck. [/QUOTE]You're wrong, these are not old incidents. Bill O'Reilly's grabbing/harassing incidents are recent (2004 and later). Gretchen Carlson, Andrea Tantaros, Megyn Kelly along with a host of other women are all current Ailes's accusers of incidents occurring 2012 and later) . Read up on O'Reilly and Tantaros and Andrea Mackris.
[QUOTE=NakedGunz;1952541]
There in no way women will let somebody grab their ass, much less pussy these days. [/QUOTE]Not for free, they will try to make you pay for it.
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American Women now demanding money for "time wasted"
Mariah Carey has reached the lowest of the low among gold-digging s!uts. She is trying to get her billionaire ex-fiance to give her money after he dropped her ass and decided not to marry her.
And yet you cucks want a militant feminist as your new Prez (smdh):
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[B]New report claims Mariah has demanded $50m from her ex James Packer
Said to think he 'owes her' for uprooting kids from New York to Los Angeles
Singer still sporting $10 million engagement ring: "I'm keeping the ring and I want $50 MILLION!"[/B]
According to TMZ, she is insisting upon a $50 million pay off from Packer.
Mariah is said to think he owes her for uprooting her two children from New York to LOS Angeles, so Packer could be near his own children.
The report claims Packer also made financial promises to Mariah during their romance, which she wants him to fulfill.
Read more: [URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3882340/Mariah-Carey-engagement-ring-following-James-Packer-split.html[/URL].
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American women are great
Maybe you only know about the bad women in America. But my wife of 40 years was beautiful. She was in college when I met her. She was surfing. I married her at 19. I was 23. She finished school and always made more money than I did. She offered me the chance to stay home with the kids. She ended up working part time and raised 2 great kids. She kept her looks too. She was crazy about me. Loved sex. She was terrific. We were married almost 40 years. No one who ever met her disliked her. And strangers would come up to her on the street telling her how beautiful she was. What she ever saw in someone like me I'll never know. The only thing she couldn't do was cook. I'm here on this site traveling the world. Knowing I'll never find anyone I want to be with. Sex was her number 1 priority. And I never once got tired or board with our sex life. I've paid for some beautiful women all over the world not one measures up to her. Her whole family is like this. My daughter is just like her. So I'm just saying sorry you haven't found one like this. But they do exist. I was the luckiest man alive every one told me so. And I knew it. She could have married anyone she wanted. But she married me.
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[QUOTE=Lolas;1963239]My daughter is just like her.[/QUOTE]Including sex being her number 1 priority too hahaha? Hey, you said she was just like your wife! Seems awkward for a parent to broach that subject about a child LOL! By the way, how do you know?
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1963882]Including sex being her number 1 priority too hahaha? Hey, you said she was just like your wife! Seems awkward for a parent to broach that subject about a child LOL! By the way, how do you know?[/QUOTE]I was always told, if you hear something to good to be true, it probably is. Or in this case we are probably being trolled. I would ask but he / she hasn't bothered to spend 20 bucks so I can pm him / her.
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[QUOTE=Lolas;1963239]Maybe you only know about the bad women in America. But my wife of 40 years was beautiful. She was in college when I met her. She was surfing. I married her at 19. I was 23. She finished school and always made more money than I did. She offered me the chance to stay home with the kids. She ended up working part time and raised 2 great kids. She kept her looks too. She was crazy about me. Loved sex. She was terrific. We were married almost 40 years. No one who ever met her disliked her. And strangers would come up to her on the street telling her how beautiful she was. What she ever saw in someone like me I'll never know. The only thing she couldn't do was cook. I'm here on this site traveling the world. Knowing I'll never find anyone I want to be with. Sex was her number 1 priority. And I never once got tired or board with our sex life. I've paid for some beautiful women all over the world not one measures up to her. Her whole family is like this. My daughter is just like her. So I'm just saying sorry you haven't found one like this. But they do exist. I was the luckiest man alive every one told me so. And I knew it. She could have married anyone she wanted. But she married me.[/QUOTE]My friend, you are (were?) a lucky man indeed.
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[QUOTE=Lolas;1963239]I've paid for some beautiful women all over the world not one measures up to her. She could have married anyone she wanted. But she married me.[/QUOTE]What happened? Is she dead? Even if this is all true, that reflects the very old mentality of a long bygone era. The same era which would have judged a stay-at-home-dad as some sort of freak- such a man forty years ago would be completely ostracized in "I Love Lucy" America. Hell of a woman to prioritize sex after giving birth, raising kids, administering a family, going through menopause, forty years of fucking the same guy. Well, sorry for your loss. ME? By virtue of off shore employment I no longer have to figure out the fucking puzzle called the "American Woman". I simply put down some coin and obtain satisfaction, absent of any real need to reciprocate. And oh man, I meet some nice ones too, lol! I lost count years ago. I'm not with the same woman forty hours, much less years! All no older than the entire time you were with your woman. Welcome to ISG. There is good advice here-use it.
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Moved in with a matchcom wench!
Guys,
Here is my situation. And I'm sure its all too familiar.
I'm a 40 yr old guy who came to North Dakota for the oil boom 5 yrs ago. Long story short. I met the "coolest" girl in my dating history. She used to live in Pheonix and has slept with 30+ guys before me. She has the most mileage on her that I've ever seriously dated. Now were are living together and her liberal smart mouth is always going off and she is only open to sex 2-3 times a month. She cleans. But hardly cooks.
My question is- would a month in Asia seriously open my eyes? And is it like night and day. Shagging and experiencing feminine women?
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[QUOTE=Montanaland;1991340]Guys,
Here is my situation. And I'm sure its all too familiar.
I'm a 40 yr old guy who came to North Dakota for the oil boom 5 yrs ago. Long story short. I met the "coolest" girl in my dating history. She used to live in Pheonix and has slept with 30+ guys before me. She has the most mileage on her that I've ever seriously dated. Now were are living together and her liberal smart mouth is always going off and she is only open to sex 2-3 times a month. She cleans. But hardly cooks.
My question is- would a month in Asia seriously open my eyes? And is it like night and day. Shagging and experiencing feminine women?[/QUOTE]Damn bro sorry to hear your story. It seems like anywhere would be better than the situation you're in. I'm single and sometimes I would love to have a girl in here with me but I always have situations like yours in the back of my mind and instead I hop a plane and head out of this god forsaken sex prison of a country for a couple of hot chica who know how to please men. Stay strong bro and if you get an out take it and get the hell out of there.
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[QUOTE=Montanaland;1991340]Guys,
Here is my situation. And I'm sure its all too familiar.
I'm a 40 yr old guy who came to North Dakota for the oil boom 5 yrs ago. Long story short. I met the "coolest" girl in my dating history. She used to live in Pheonix and has slept with 30+ guys before me. She has the most mileage on her that I've ever seriously dated. Now were are living together and her liberal smart mouth is always going off and she is only open to sex 2-3 times a month. She cleans. But hardly cooks.
My question is- would a month in Asia seriously open my eyes? And is it like night and day. Shagging and experiencing feminine women?[/QUOTE]American women always will treat you better when they are on the outside trying to get in as opposed to once they are in.
Lucky for you, you can cut your losses now without much damage. Just be careful she doesn't drop a baby on you or you are fucked.
The answer to your question. I live in Asia and I would say yes. Actually anywhere that is not where you are now would be better.
Some guys would say in Asia you have to pay for it. You are paying for it now and what are you getting?
By the way. She fucked all those guys before you and now she only wants it 2 to 3 times a month with you. I doubt she is doing without it the rest of the month.
Get the Bit*h out of your house and take a trip.
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BigSkyDude: It will open your eyes, your mind and your zipper. Asian girls, particularly Filipinas because of their sweetness, English, and disregard for age, will cause you to reexamine your AW relationships irrevocably. I'm 61, not bad looking, professional, educated, beer gut (not too big) who stopped dating ALL AWs six years ago and never looked back. Now I've got beautiful, young (twentysomethings), sexy, willing girlfriends all over the Philippines (also Bangkok) who rock my world for a fraction of the cost. I also have several drop dead gorgeous, young, super busty latinas in the Dominican Republic that I visit several times a year for a fraction of the cost of an AW. Of course knowing a little Spanish helps in that part of the world. PM me and get my phone number if you need to know more. I'd be happy to show you how it's done.
[QUOTE=Montanaland;1991340]Guys,
Here is my situation. And I'm sure its all too familiar.
My question is- would a month in Asia seriously open my eyes? And is it like night and day. Shagging and experiencing feminine women?[/QUOTE].
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What are you doing on this site?
[QUOTE=Lolas;1963239]Maybe you only know about the bad women in America. But my wife of 40 years was beautiful. She was in college when I met her. She was surfing. I married her at 19. I was 23. She finished school and always made more money than I did. She offered me the chance to stay home with the kids. She ended up working part time and raised 2 great kids. She kept her looks too. She was crazy about me. Loved sex. She was terrific. We were married almost 40 years. No one who ever met her disliked her. And strangers would come up to her on the street telling her how beautiful she was. What she ever saw in someone like me I'll never know. The only thing she couldn't do was cook. I'm here on this site traveling the world. Knowing I'll never find anyone I want to be with. Sex was her number 1 priority. And I never once got tired or board with our sex life. I've paid for some beautiful women all over the world not one measures up to her. Her whole family is like this. My daughter is just like her. So I'm just saying sorry you haven't found one like this. But they do exist. I was the luckiest man alive every one told me so. And I knew it. She could have married anyone she wanted. But she married me.[/QUOTE].
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[QUOTE=DCups;1991595]What are you doing on this site?.[/QUOTE]He probably stumbled on it like I did, and discovered there are bros are out there having the time of their lives.
[QUOTE=Montanaland;1991340]My question is- would a month in Asia seriously open my eyes? And is it like night and day. Shagging and experiencing feminine women?[/QUOTE]Geez, do you have to ask? You are living the nightmare of most of the men in America. Get her out bro. You can do better. If you made big money up there, you should be spending it to make your life better, not let anybody bring it down. Most guys just don't know what's out there in the rest of the world. Guess what? It's about 3.5 billion more women than the one in your house making you miserable. See these pics? I fuck her and many more like her regularly. Don't buy into the "Happy wife, happy life (or GF)" BS. The constantly complain about us, turn the tables bro. Get on a plane and have fun. Sadly, it ain't in our own backyard.
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What Countries Have Realistic Access to USA VISAs For Online Girlfriend Visits??
I'm surprised this isn't a bigger topic on here. Like most guys, helping a foreign girl come over for a long visit (2 weeks) is better than dealing with local be. S.
We are both the same age (advanced youth, I suppose). She has a good job, no car, but money in bank and has traveled extensively. She made a mistake of telling the consulate interviewer she would want to work in USA if she found a job-out of naivety. However, she is Chinese; and for good reason, it is quite the issue to get her over her on visa.
I know VAWA was expressly made to prevent foreign women from casually visiting the USA, but there must be loopholes. Given the two time limit of spousal visa issuance, I don't want to go down that road.
Looking for good, relevant information. (What other nationality's ability to gain a visa is more practical?) I'm tired of making connections with foreign women online, only to be stymied by our pathetic American lack of vacation and / or visa restrictions for said lady's tourist visa.
Let's make a list of visa friendly countries with good women. (Visa friendly would be low financial bank levels and other hoops to jump through before Uncle Sam coughs up the visa.).
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[QUOTE=Jesterl;2011947]I'm surprised this isn't a bigger topic on here. Let's make a list of visa friendly countries with good women. (Visa friendly would be low financial bank levels and other hoops to jump through before Uncle Sam coughs up the visa.).[/QUOTE]It will be even a smaller topic in Trumps America. There is so much scrutiny of single Asian women coming in there are documentaries being produced addressing them. I would say the only possible group are white European women have the most chance of getting in. Good luck with them, just another version of AW, "I am woman, hear me roar!
Get a job that sends you abroad. I'm pushing 60, and have been away from the USA almost half my life. Sorry pal, you may as well keep kissing AW ass to get laid.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2013012]It will be even a smaller topic in Trumps America. There is so much scrutiny of single Asian women coming in there are documentaries being produced addressing them. I would say the only possible group are white European women have the most chance of getting in. Good luck with them, just another version of AW, "I am woman, hear me roar!
Get a job that sends you abroad. I'm pushing 60, and have been away from the USA almost half my life. Sorry pal, you may as well keep kissing AW ass to get laid.[/QUOTE]I'm not aware of more scrutiny on this matter with the new administraiton; however, my query is more about which countries are the 'borderline visa countries," that is which ones have some reasonable ability to have their citizens get USA Tourist visas? For instance, several countries have minimum bank account deposits, proof of property or work in the home country, etc. Which borderline countries have reasonable benchmarks or loopholes in this matter?
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[QUOTE=Jesterl;2013185]Which borderline countries have reasonable benchmarks or loopholes in this matter?[/QUOTE]Sorry pal, you may as well keep kissing AW ass to get laid.
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[QUOTE=Jesterl;2011947]I'm surprised this isn't a bigger topic on here. Like most guys, helping a foreign girl come over for a long visit (2 weeks) is better than dealing with local be. S.
[/QUOTE]Well, this is a monger board. I'm not sure if there are many members on this site that want to, uh, bring the ride back home from Disneyland, if you get what I'm saying. In regards to visa questions, maybe try another type of forum, like an immigration law website?
However, why not try hooking up with Chinese women who are already here in America? I'm talking about ones that have just gotten here in the last year or so and have not been corrupted by the West. One good hunting ground here in the States might be a massage shop. I'm talking about legit massage places, not an AMP. There's a place not too far from my house that has a few pretty Chinese girls that give a great, professional massage. No locks on the doors and the walls don't even go up all the way to the ceiling. Talking to a couple of these girls, it seems like they come here on a green card and they've only been in the country for a short time, maybe a year or two. They already have family here in the USA That they stay with. They do seem to work long hours and have few days off, so that might be an issue with trying to meet up. But it seems like some might be open to the idea.
Is this an option where you live?
If I can get away from my hectic work schedule and get off my lazy ass on my days off, this is something I'm going to try.
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[QUOTE=Jesterl;2013185]I'm not aware of more scrutiny on this matter with the new administraiton; however, my query is more about which countries are the 'borderline visa countries," that is which ones have some reasonable ability to have their citizens get USA Tourist visas? For instance, several countries have minimum bank account deposits, proof of property or work in the home country, etc. Which borderline countries have reasonable benchmarks or loopholes in this matter?[/QUOTE]Bringing a chica to the US is asking for trouble and is a stupid idea to begin with.
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[QUOTE=Jesterl;2013185]I'm not aware of more scrutiny on this matter with the new administraiton; however, my query is more about which countries are the 'borderline visa countries," that is which ones have some reasonable ability to have their citizens get USA Tourist visas? For instance, several countries have minimum bank account deposits, proof of property or work in the home country, etc. Which borderline countries have reasonable benchmarks or loopholes in this matter?[/QUOTE]Poland and Ukraine have clearly eased up visa criteria. It's pretty evident with all the new hookers here in my hometown. But like Dickhead said, it's a bad idea to bring a girl to the US.
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[QUOTE=Riina;2013989]Poland and Ukraine have clearly eased up visa criteria. It's pretty evident with all the new hookers here in my hometown. But like Dickhead said, it's a bad idea to bring a girl to the US.[/QUOTE]And clearly not worth the trouble. I can just imagine all the crap of doing the paperwork, buying tickets, answering a barrage of questions about every freaking thing she sees, being seen as cheap for not taking her shopping, and ready for her to board the damn plane after just a few days!
I would prefer to take a trip to learn other cultures, feeling the frustration of those lessons, take photos, see the sights, smell the smells, hear the language, and dump your loads into the women at their rates. You walk away a much better person. Best of all you control the situations. Men will never understand how women have you sized up within the first few minutes, and are constantly looking for ways to maneuver everything to her advantage. That's perfect for them in America. You're still a man in every other country on this planet except the good old USA. Seems you need to travel more to understand Jester.
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Mike Epps' wife wants spousal support because at 36, she's too old to get a job
Mike Epps' wife is a character. I had never heard of her until today, but I don't have to know her to know that someone who would make the claims that she has, is a character indeed.
According to TMZ, Mechelle Epps is requesting $109,036 per month in support from her estranged husband.
Mechelle claims Mike makes $3.5 million every year but has recently cut her off from bank accounts and credit cards, leaving her with zero income. Document state that her husband never wanted her to work during their marriage; and now, as a result, she can't get a job because she's too old.
Mechelle is 36.
In documents, Mechelle said she spends several thousand dollars a month on shoes and clothes for their 10 and 12 year-old girls. In addition to attire, the girls have to get their hair braided at an "expensive salon. " They need food, vacations and $72,000 per year for private school.
Mechelle is asking for $35,000 a month to compensate her mother for nannying the girls and another $600 for the mother's Mercedes.
The $109,036 should cover everything. Mechelle also wants sole possession of the house.
Mike Epps was the one to file for the divorce in January 2016 but the couple have yet to reach a final agreement.
[URL]http://madamenoire.com/822402/mike-epps-wife-wants-spousal-support-36-shes-old-get-job/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2015662]Mike Epps' wife is a character. I had never heard of her until today, but I don't have to know her to know that someone who would make the claims that she has, is a character indeed.[/QUOTE]Apparently they both tell jokes, or are jokes. Maybe both are true. I have no pity for him, once went to a concert where he appeared, so drunk he didn't know where he was. Booed off the stage. Fuck celebrities and their wives.
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2015662]Mike Epps' wife is a character. I had never heard of her until today, but I don't have to know her to know that someone who would make the claims that she has, is a character indeed.
According to TMZ, Mechelle Epps is requesting $109,036 per month in support from her estranged husband.
Mechelle claims Mike makes $3.5 million every year but has recently cut her off from bank accounts and credit cards, leaving her with zero income. Document state that her husband never wanted her to work during their marriage; and now, as a result, she can't get a job because she's too old.
Mechelle is 36.
In documents, Mechelle said she spends several thousand dollars a month on shoes and clothes for their 10 and 12 year-old girls. In addition to attire, the girls have to get their hair braided at an "expensive salon. " They need food, vacations and $72,000 per year for private school.
Mechelle is asking for $35,000 a month to compensate her mother for nannying the girls and another $600 for the mother's Mercedes.
The $109,036 should cover everything. Mechelle also wants sole possession of the house.
Mike Epps was the one to file for the divorce in January 2016 but the couple have yet to reach a final agreement.
[URL]http://madamenoire.com/822402/mike-epps-wife-wants-spousal-support-36-shes-old-get-job/[/URL][/QUOTE]Perfect example as to why it's a bad idea to bring a girl to the US. I wouldn't want to deal with someone that suddenly realizes she's entitled to half and that it's ok in our culture to alienate men.
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2015662]According to TMZ, Mechelle Epps is requesting $109,036 per month in support from her estranged husband.[/QUOTE]Let me vent. She is just pissed, she is getting kicked to the curb for a newer model probably. Fucking marriage is the worst. You both start to hate each other after awhile. Black women get especially vindictive if its time to break up, knowing her chances of remarrying drop to practically zero as each day goes by. They also take the typical woman's position that they did nothing wrong, you fucked up, and are to blame for everything wrong with the marriage, never taking a moment to reflect one how she could have made things better-or you happier. America buys off on "Happy wife, happy life", and you are supposed to suck it up. Fuck Trump and the USA. Just send my fucking check, which I earned, and don't be late assholes! I'll be over here, drinking beer and getting laid.
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Obviously this was a hooker. See how much they love you guys?
[URL]http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshheA61m92MRv7Z1O7y[/URL]
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2017371]They also take the typical woman's position that they did nothing wrong, you fucked up, and are to blame for everything wrong with the marriage, never taking a moment to reflect one how she could have made things better-or you happier.[/QUOTE]Like I've said before. I haven't met one divorced woman yet who took any responsibility for her failed marriage. Not one! No exaggeration. And yet, I'd go out with these people for just two weeks and see all kinds of things they did to drive men away! And get this! These divorcees would want to turn around and start lecturing to me about how to have a successful marriage! LOL! I would just blow their bullshit straight out of the water with, "I'll take advice on how to have a successful relationship from somebody who's had one. " Hahaha! Talking about some pissed off chicks! That's because they knew I was right and wasn't "thirsty" for their "nothing special" pussies LOLOLOL! Now, I just don't date. No need for a guy like me to do that. I'm happy doing how I do without all the bullshit. No chick is about to get her greedy hooks into me having me grovel for some average pussy. No sir! No way, no how!
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The AW Way
What's yours is mine and what's mine is mine. Fat asses. Endless, mindless, meaningless conversation mostly centered around their feelings or male-bashing. Very little sex after marriage and only if you do all your chores and kiss ass. Minimal blow jobs, if any. What did you do for me / buy me lately? Cooking and cleaning are now relegated to the man. Feminist marches for women's rights. My pussy is made out of gold. Don't tell dirty jokes or hang centerfold posters: it's disrespectful. Boo hoo Hillary lost and I can't deal with it. What else am I missing, guys?
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[QUOTE=DCups;2021218]What else am I missing, guys?[/QUOTE]You forgot something. Don't forget the other side of the coin designed to keep you in line- The Church. Boy, oh boy women love to go in them, and bring you along. The most hypocritical, judgmental institution that's been around as long as Man. They can't let people live their lives in their own way. No they have to force their interpretations on you, and pay good money to pay off those who make laws to do just that. It's the perfect vehicle that will ultimately drive you over a cliff. As I sit here in Kenya, I can go to sleep alone, or go down to the club and find a college student looking for a sugar daddy. Sure, I can be married to a twenty-something for a few hours. I don't have to tolerate being with the same broad that refuses to keep herself in shape, and is in my ear telling me what I should do! Hey look at that, my 401 K is actually going in a positive direction, cause nobody's spending all the money on shoes. "Happy life, no wife".
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I'm trying to reach DirkDingy. Can anyone help?
Hi there,
I know this thread is a bit dated, but I am trying to reach DirkDingy. Can anyone help put me in touch with him?
Thank you in advance.
[QUOTE=DirkDingy;1133914]Good looking and charming men can pick up lots of women. If one was kissed by the pretty gods then sex is easily avail. Sure, you can have a bunch of one nite stands with good looking women. However, if a woman is looking for a serious relationship she values the stability-read $$- more than the eye candy. Yes one can fuck cougurs and other women picked up from the bar if one is handsome.
I have been the fuck buddy of many oht EE women, but until they knew that I was a "serious man" they would always view me as nothing more than a fun dick and treated me accordingly. It made me very uncomfortable. Being a "serious man" in the FSU and EE is the difference between her picking up the phone when you call 24/7 and her texting you back 7/10 times that she is "very busy" or "feeling sick"
Some men may be content to be the *****. To each their own, but when one is a boy toy you have little power in the relationship..[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=FemaleStudent;2022908]Hi there,
I know this thread is a bit dated, but I am trying to reach DirkDingy. Can anyone help put me in touch with him?
Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]Buy a subscription and private message him.
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[QUOTE=FemaleStudent;2022908]but I am trying to reach DirkDingy. [/QUOTE]Cool handle, but he has not posted in years. His Kabul posts suggests he has finished contracting there (as have I) and gone back home to his wife and kids (as I certainly will not) and finished with that shithole money pit that Bush stuck us with.
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Lawsuit
He "murdered her soul". That's gotta be worth tens of millions right? Just when you thought you'd heard it all. A greedy ex-wife and her equally greedy attorney. I'm sure somebody else's money will heal that damaged soul up right away!
[URL]http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2017/05/steve-harvey-sued-60-million-ex-wife-soul-murder[/URL]
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If Trump legalize the prostitution in the USA, I'll consider him to be the best president the USA has ever had.
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Right on, Cane. I stopped dating AWs about 6 or 7 years ago and never looked back. Meanwhile my buddies and relatives who are dating AWs (or worse, married one) are 90 - 95% miserable and jealous as hell. I can't even tell them the whole truth about my sexploits (50 - 75 different, beautiful, busty, lusty 20 or 30 somethings every year between Dominican Republic, Mexico, Philippines and Thailand, occasionally Indo or Cambo -- all for the price of a movie / dinner for two or less) because it would send them over the edge. Will AWs ever learn that they are becoming an endangered species? I don't think so. They are too damn self-centered, fat and stupid. When one of my lusty, busty Latina lovers, for example, sees me with a hard-on, they take care of it right away. An AW will ignore that unless they are in a rare, horny mood from having spent a lot of your money recently (and assuming you have completed all the items on her extensive honey-do list). I have to be careful to subdue my cockiness around the many AWs I have to work with and in the neighborhood where I live. Five years til retirement in the PI and I am counting down. California is beautiful and scenic but cost-prohibitive for a satisfactory retirement and completely undesirable for sexual satisfaction.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2021119] Now, I just don't date. No need for a guy like me to do that. I'm happy doing how I do without all the bullshit. No chick is about to get her greedy hooks into me having me grovel for some average pussy. No sir! No way, no how![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DCups;2040238]Five years til retirement in the PI and I am counting down.[/QUOTE]I heard that! We all have our count downs going on. Haven't 100% decided where I would like to retire some day, but believe me, I'm counting too LOL!
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Not Hot for Teacher
After 12 years of marriage to the female predator who sexually abused him and robbed him of his childhood, Vili Fualaau filed for legal separation but Mary Kay Letourneau is determined to maintain her hold over him and her lawyer is trying to have the case dismissed. It seems like little Vili has grown up and gotten over the "hot-for-teacher" thing, and at 33 years of age, he is no longer interested in rooting an insane postmenopausal 55-year-old woman.
However, the craziness shines bright in Letourneau's eyes as it did over two decades ago when she decided to sex her then student, Vili. At the time, Letourneau was 34 years old, twice her victim's age, with a husband and 3 children. Of course, women all over America blamed her twisted predatory behavior on her husband because the only explanation that they could accept was that her husband must have been an abusive asshole which drove her to prey on boys. Since whenever a woman commits a crime, it is a man's fault.
Vili was most likely looking for a way out for a long time but he knew without a high school education, and a history of depression and alcoholism, he was effectively unemployable. Trying to escape from the marriage with Letourneau before his children became adults would have left Vili facing child support payments that he was ill-prepared to pay. Now that the kids are grown, he is running for the door! [URL]http://www.eonline.com/news/858120/mary-kay-letourneau-wants-vili-fualaau-s-separation-case-dismissed[/URL].
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Is that foreign woman really falling for you or setting you up for a fall?
Men have grown increasingly aware of the pitfalls that come with involvement with American women, and this is reflected in the growing Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW) movement which was partly inspired by the herbivore or grass-eater men culture in Japan. However, it appears that foreign women in the United States now pose an even greater danger as a growing number of them are preying on Americans by using false domestic violence and stalking allegations to put themselves on the fast track to USA Citizenship using a special visa for crime victims according to experts. [URL]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/08/immigrants-preying-on-americans-with-false-tales-abuse-to-stay-in-us-experts-say.html[/URL].
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2040575]I heard that! We all have our count downs going on. Haven't 100% decided where I would like to retire some day, but believe me, I'm counting too LOL![/QUOTE]So maybe I don't know where I want to retire yet, but I do know what I want to be doing in order to "stay active". My heroes hahaha!
[URL]http://bluepillmen.com/home[/URL]
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Feminism
*I don't know if this is appropriate to discuss on this site so any Admin may feel free to remove this post. *
However, I would just like to address the issue of feminism. Don't you think feminism has made white females in general and American women in particular extremely unattractive. I myself am attracted to East Asian women because they still have a feminine appeal, which I don't find among Caucasian women anymore. Do you agree or disagree?
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PI here I come
I have also chosen PI to retire to because its cheap and there is puss-a-plenty. I am in the USA As I transition to another overseas job, and its amazing how many fat women their are here. As a middle-aged guy, my options are limited in getting a suitable mate in this country that is not obese, or has their grand kids dumped on them all the time. They can be as fat as they want, I don't have to deal with them, but we're looked upon as pervs, or sugar dads for being with younger women. Thus we are pushed back towards the fat grandmas. The conservatives, bible thumpers will never green light pay for play in the USA, so you risk a sting and arrest record. So you fat asses can continue having your girls night out for the rest of your lives. Never going to ass kiss, dinner date, match dot com any of these double standard enjoying girls here.
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I think that American women who take care of themselves physically, bring something to the table financially, and are willing and adept sexually are very attractive.
There are probably six or seven of those somewhere in a country with a population of 350 million. Or four or five, anyway. Probably. Maybe. Maybe?
Bueller? Bueller?
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[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2044251]*I don't know if this is appropriate to discuss on this site so any Admin may feel free to remove this post. *
However, I would just like to address the issue of feminism. Don't you think feminism has made white females in general and American women in particular extremely unattractive. I myself am attracted to East Asian women because they still have a feminine appeal, which I don't find among Caucasian women anymore. Do you agree or disagree?[/QUOTE]Russians and Eastern Europeans are very attractive and feminim. I don't agree not only whites are unattractive in the USA. Regardless of the race, most of the women in the USA are unattractive. East Asians are not sexually open. I prefer Brazilians and eastern Europeans. Japanese women are sexually more open in Asian.
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2043141]Men have grown increasingly aware of the pitfalls that come with involvement with American women, and this is reflected in the growing Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW) movement which was partly inspired by the herbivore or grass-eater men culture in Japan. However, it appears that foreign women in the United States now pose an even greater danger as a growing number of them are preying on Americans by using false domestic violence and stalking allegations to put themselves on the fast track to USA Citizenship using a special visa for crime victims according to experts. [URL]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/08/immigrants-preying-on-americans-with-false-tales-abuse-to-stay-in-us-experts-say.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]Ain't that some shit!
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;2044355]I think that American women who take care of themselves physically, bring something to the table financially, and are willing and adept sexually are very attractive. There are probably six or seven of those somewhere in a country with a population of 350 million. Or four or five, anyway.[/QUOTE]Her dance card is full. She will have too many losers willing to buy her a car, or pay her mortgage, that are too stupid to know there is another world out there, where a man is still a man, just to get in the panties. Hell, I met a girl on Tinder about 25 years younger than me, intelligent and attractive. She let three a-holes dump her with three kids, she is in public housing, and too broke to even own a shovel, to make a hole, to take a dump in. She asked for 300 for a few hours fun! Can you imagine the nerve of these girls! American society has managed to reduce men to being fumbling, stupid morons that need a wife to handle everything to have a happy life. When I leave the USA I don't miss pussy. I miss driving, and a very few cultural things, but not any woman I have ever known. I just wish I could get back the money lost on marriage and child support. Easily six figures.
[QUOTE=Komo753;2044358]Russians and Eastern Europeans are very attractive and feminim. I don't agree not only whites are unattractive in the USA. Regardless of the race, most of the women in the USA are unattractive. East Asians are not sexually open. I prefer Brazilians and eastern Europeans. Japanese women are sexually more open in Asian.[/QUOTE]Most of the EE women I see are fat, have cig breath and way too much make up. Is it part of their culture to try hard to look like your a pro? I stayed in Phoenician hotel in Bahrain, and had the steady knocks on the door from EE women offering services, and I did not want any of them, esp for Bahrain prices. I did have one at the Broadway in Dubai. I arranged things through her "agent" in the cafe. She had me exploding in 10 min. She was really hot. I've heard EE woman make you ride them hard, and it was true for this one.
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[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2044251]*I don't know if this is appropriate to discuss on this site so any Admin may feel free to remove this post. *However, I would just like to address the issue of feminism. Don't you think feminism has made white females in general and American women in particular extremely unattractive. I myself am attracted to East Asian women because they still have a feminine appeal, which I don't find among Caucasian women anymore. Do you agree or disagree?[/QUOTE]Not only appropriate, but encouraged on AW forum, hehe! I think that "F" word is a bit old school. The ideology has morphed into something else with a different name. I can't quite put my finger on it, having been outside the country for so long.
MILF, I will use a country I have been to many times (Kenya) as comparison, and you can read my posts in that forum. In Kenya, a woman usually has to fuck to get a job. The applicant will be asked to go to lunch, or coffee, propositioned, and if she agrees, that is still no guarantee she is hired. If she IS hired, she will be, in the course of her employment, approached by most men in her authority, to fuck to keep that job. To avoid that shit she has to be connected with some power. Secondly, when the parliament voted on whether polygamy shall remain legal, it was almost unanimous-YES. Imagine the life of a young woman with a kid that gets no cs from the deadbeat dad, cause in Kenya, its not really enforced. Nobody on this forum wants their wife or daughter to have to go thru this crap. Yes, it does not matter what type of job. Lawyers in Kenya only need one year of law school. Most female interns know they will be sexually harassed. Kenya courts and police are the most corrupt system in the country. You can buy your way out of murder. I will give Kenya credit in that they are moving away from this BS, they are getting enlightened, but very slowly.
On the other side of the coin, we have the good ole USA. Where you have a girl that made the football team as a kicker-Hurray! However, the coach can't call a fake kick, because oh, sweet little Brittany will get fucking creamed on her mad dash to the end zone, and I'll lose my job. Or hey, I'm a Madison Ave. Ad exec that has to come up with a commercial to sell this stupid home repair service: Picture this, a pipe bursts, and floods my entire fucking home. The hubby and wife are standing there watching this shit unfold in their home! The hubby say's: "I can fix it. " His wife, the woman he married to be his partner in life, laughs at him, and says "NO!" You have just witnessed emasculation of the American male. In comes some pipe fixing company. No fucking support from the wife. The message is, (To America mind you!) only she handle this with a phone call.
Even better, a flat tire on the road TV commercial! The wife sits in the passenger side of the car, SILENCES her man driving the fucking car with one finger in the air, (don't even fucking talk) as if he can't change a damn tire, and calls a repair service on her cell. Again, the message, your a poof that can't change a tire. What are we doing here in this country?
If your a man stand the fuck up. Don't be disrespected in this manner. Tell these people what you think, and how you feel.
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[QUOTE=Komo753;2044358]I prefer Brazilians and eastern Europeans.[/QUOTE]This is pretty much me too. I'd say Brasilieras and Europeans from Germany eastward.
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[QUOTE=Komo753;2044358]Russians and Eastern Europeans are very attractive and feminim.[/QUOTE]Have you seen those chicks after they have reached 30? For some reason Mexicans, Indians and Eastern Europeans look good when they are young, but point me towards an older one that looks anywhere close to decent.
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[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2044251]Don't you think feminism has made white females in general and American women in particular extremely unattractive. I myself am attracted to East Asian women because they still have a feminine appeal, which I don't find among Caucasian women anymore. Do you agree or disagree?[/QUOTE]I don't have a dog in this fight, but I live in Thailand and a girl that I am dealing with went to the shop with me last night to have my motorbike repaired. I told her that I think she should learn mechanic work and I am sure that she could fix the bike faster than that guy. She said no way. That is work for men. I thought to myself that I would never hear that in my country.
Like I said, I don't give a fuck either way, but in my country women want to be equal in everything except in the face of danger, when there is heavy lifting to be done, or when the bill comes. At those points they want to hide behind womanhood.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2044483]For some reason Mexicans, Indians and Eastern Europeans look good when they are young, but point me towards an older one that looks anywhere close to decent.[/QUOTE]Remember, we're not in this game to keep them until they're old. That's why we only fuck them from 18 to 30 LOL! Let somebody else wife them up for when they get fat and old.
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You hit the nail on the head, Milfotronic. AWs have subordinated their femininity to overcome men in almost all categories. It used to be a woman could be counted on to cook, clean and take care of their man and the kids as that was their role. And stay fairly sexy and sexual. Nowadays they want to be the man and relegate all of this to some dumb sucker. All the while their asses grow fatter and their mouths constantly complaining instead of being used for something more satisfying.
[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2044251]However, I would just like to address the issue of feminism. Don't you think feminism has made white females in general and American women in particular extremely unattractive. I myself am attracted to East Asian women because they still have a feminine appeal, which I don't find among Caucasian women anymore. Do you agree or disagree?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2044483]Have you seen those chicks after they have reached 30? For some reason Mexicans, Indians and Eastern Europeans look good when they are young, but point me towards an older one that looks anywhere close to decent.[/QUOTE]Dude,
You have just described most of the women in the world, fat and ugly don't stop at the borders of those countries.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2044483]Have you seen those chicks after they have reached 30? For some reason Mexicans, Indians and Eastern Europeans look good when they are young, but point me towards an older one that looks anywhere close to decent.[/QUOTE]I am talking about sex, I am not talking about staying with a woman all my life. If I have to choose a woman for life, I will choose a Jewish woman. I live in Japan, I really know Asian women. Asian women when they are married they stop making sex, Asian women over 30 are no more sexually active and no more beautiful. Thai women only fuck for money they don't fuck for pleasure because it is not a cultural thing. East Europeans and Brazilians are the best performers. Many east European women are still beautiful over 30.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2044425]Her dance card is full. She will have too many losers willing to buy her a car, or pay her mortgage, that are too stupid to know there is another world out there, where a man is still a man, just to get in the panties. Hell, I met a girl on Tinder about 25 years younger than me, intelligent and attractive. She let three a-holes dump her with three kids, she is in public housing, and too broke to even own a shovel, to make a hole, to take a dump in. She asked for 300 for a few hours fun! Can you imagine the nerve of these girls! American society has managed to reduce men to being fumbling, stupid morons that need a wife to handle everything to have a happy life. When I leave the USA I don't miss pussy. I miss driving, and a very few cultural things, but not any woman I have ever known. I just wish I could get back the money lost on marriage and child support. Easily six figures.
Most of the EE women I see are fat, have cig breath and way too much make up. Is it part of their culture to try hard to look like your a pro? I stayed in Phoenician hotel in Bahrain, and had the steady knocks on the door from EE women offering services, and I did not want any of them, esp for Bahrain prices. I did have one at the Broadway in Dubai. I arranged things through her "agent" in the cafe. She had me exploding in 10 min. She was really hot. I've heard EE woman make you ride them hard, and it was true for this one.[/QUOTE]Most American women I see are fat, ugly, not good performers. When they are thin they are not naturally beautiful or they don't have beautiful face. Most eastern Europeans are naturally beautiful. Brazilians are the sexiest women and eastern Europeans are the most beautiful women. Most EE women in Japan are not beautiful. You must try EE countries you ll see real beauty. Most Brazilian women working in Japan are very ugly but in Brazil you find the sexiest Brazilian women.
Bahrain, Qatar or Dubai are not the right countries to pick up EE women.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2044485] but in my country women want to be equal in everything except in the face of danger, when there is heavy lifting to be done, or when the bill comes. At those points they want to hide behind womanhood.[/QUOTE]I get that this is the bash American women portion of this site and its well deserved in many respect but what do you mean by "except in the face of danger?" American women serve daily in the face of danger and do some heavy lifting as cops, fire fighters, FBI Agents, DEA agents, Border Security guards, military soldiers and have years been fighting to be allowed to serve in combat. 10 women recently completed Infantry Officer course and 2 of them just completed Army Ranger school which they had to fight for years to get into.
Men are the ones who were fighting to keep them out of battle. I wouldn't date any American woman but have served with several of them in the zone and never seen any of them asking out of the dangers of battles. In fact they begged to go, some were killed and wounded in action and I will tell you that in some cases some of these women were much better than some men.
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[QUOTE=Komo753;2044748], I really know Asian women. Asian women when they are married they stop making sex [/QUOTE]You really don't know Asian women!
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[QUOTE=RunMann;2044842]I get that this is the bash American women portion of this site and its well deserved in many respect but what do you mean by "except in the face of danger?" American women serve daily in the face of danger and do some heavy lifting as cops, fire fighters, FBI Agents, DEA agents, Border Security guards, military soldiers and have years been fighting to be allowed to serve in combat.[/QUOTE]I am not bashing anyone, that is why I said that I do not have a dog in the fight. I did not mean it to be interpreted as "All" either. Sure there are exceptions to rules. But the majority of the country still runs on women and children first.
The male is supposed to assume the role of protector. So if a burglar is suspected to be in the house, who goes to check it out being the first to risk life and limb? What would be your thoughts if you called the police because of a suspected prowler and two women officers showed up?
Women make up 10% of Law Enforcement Officers. Fewer than 4% of fire fighters. And seriously, how many women are itching for a combat position in the military, 1.7%.
Like I said, there are not a bunch of women running to the front of the line to take on danger. Not saying that I blame them, but if you want equality then you need to be ready to take on the tough responsibilities that come with that, instead of just reaping the sweet benefits. In the Navy we used to say Rank Has Its Privileges. Yeah, well it has a lot more freaking responsibilities to go along with them too.
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[QUOTE=Komo753;2044748]Asian women when they are married they stop making sex, Asian women over 30 are no more sexually active and no more beautiful. Thai women only fuck for money they don't fuck for pleasure because it is not a cultural thing.[/QUOTE]All the married Asian women that I have fucked would say otherwise, especially the ones over 30. A woman's physiology is going to trump any culture BS.
Thai women only fuck for money? That was not the impression I got the other night from a Thai chick I picked up at the disco that got no money from me. She even told me to take her car the next morning when I was going to eat because she wanted to stay in my bed.
Neither did I get that impression from a chick that came down from Bangkok last week after work one night and went back the next day before work. It must suck to have such shitty experience with Asian women.
[6/6, 12:40 AM Nok: I did not forget.
[6/6, 12:40 AM Nok: I miss you.
[6/6, 12:40 AM Nok: And I miss your bed too😜.
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You must be dating a different set of Asian broads. The ones I do remain sexy unless they come to America and get Americanized by the fat asses over here.
QUOTE=Komo753;2044748] Asian women when they are married they stop making sex, Asian women over 30 are no more sexually active and no more beautiful. Thai women only fuck for money they don't fuck for pleasure because it is not a cultural thing. E / QUOTE.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2044866]I am not bashing anyone, that is why I said that I do not have a dog in the fight. I did not mean it to be interpreted as "All" either. Sure there are exceptions to rules. But the majority of the country still runs on women and children first.
The male is supposed to assume the role of protector. So if a burglar is suspected to be in the house, who goes to check it out being the first to risk life and limb? What would be your thoughts if you called the police because of a suspected prowler and two women officers showed up?
Women make up 10% of Law Enforcement Officers. Fewer than 4% of fire fighters. And seriously, how many women are itching for a combat position in the military, 1.7%.
Like I said, there are not a bunch of women running to the front of the line to take on danger. Not saying that I blame them, but if you want equality then you need to be ready to take on the tough responsibilities that come with that, instead of just reaping the sweet benefits. In the Navy we used to say Rank Has Its Privileges. Yeah, well it has a lot more freaking responsibilities to go along with them too.[/QUOTE]I don't get the burglar analogy because if two women cops showed up I would expect them to get the butts out there and do their job the same way the man would be expected to.
The percent of women in any of these positions are low because MEN only allow those percentage of women to be in those positions. Women do not have the same opportunities as men. Since you ask how many women are itching to get into combat you obviously are unaware of the facts. I told you that women are literally fighting to get in and just recently were allowed to serve in some positions. Your argument would be valid if these positions were always open to all women and they were refusing to serve. MEN do not want women in combat, as firefighters and in many law enforcement positions, it is not the women's fault that MEN set up the systems to exclude them and then the women get blamed for not being in the positions or get called out for not wanting to face danger. Your statement that you don't see a bunch of women running to the front of the line is baseless as you are not in a position to see that, according to you, you don't even live in the US. Women are not submitting their applications / resumes to you so how would you see it? Do a search for the number of women who have sued to be able to become fire fighters because they could not get in or go the Pentagon's or DOD site to see "seriously" the story behind how many women want to serve in combat.
MEN always set up the systems because they always think they know what's best. Two years ago, there was a ban on women serving in combat, it was just recently opened, you can't then say the numbers are low for women as that does not tell the story. You can quote numbers all you want but the reason behind the numbers is story not the numbers themselves. Your original comment that they don't want to face danger are not supported by the facts or the history of the country, but by your own experiences / bias. I just wanted to see where you were coming from with that statement and now I know.
[URL]http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-1204-lemmon-women-combat-20151204-story.html[/URL]
[URL]http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/12/03/458319524/pentagon-will-allow-women-in-frontline-ground-combat-positions[/URL]
[URL]http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-adv-lafd-women-20151125-story.html[/URL]
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Freedom for women is a sign of a dying society
[QUOTE=RunMann;2044917]MEN always set up the systems because they always think they know what's best. Two years ago, there was a ban on women serving in combat, it was just recently opened, you can't then say the numbers are low for women as that does not tell the story. You can quote numbers all you want but the reason behind the numbers is story not the numbers themselves. Your original comment that they don't want to face danger are not supported by the facts or the history of the country, but by your own experiences / bias. I just wanted to see where you were coming from with that statement and now I know.[/QUOTE]Please don't take offense but you have extreme feminist views. The reason women have been "excluded" from certain professions is because society used to have traditional gender roles. Men and women were supposed to do different things. This model or idea has withered away in the West since society has become individualised and hence some women regard old rules as being unfair and discriminating towards them. Let's however not fool ourselves. The more liberal and nontraditional society becomes, the less people get married, more people get divorced and less children are born. So, blaming all evils on men is simply foolish because in the end society as a whole will pay for this negative and quite dark development. A society with freedom for women but fewer children is a dying society.
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[QUOTE=RunMann;2044917]MEN always set up the systems because they always think they know what's best. Two years ago, there was a ban on women serving in combat, it was just recently opened, [/QUOTE]Now that they are receiving their combat jobs which have come along with combat pay, I think it is about time for them to start reaching for the check when it comes.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2044960]Now that they are receiving their combat jobs which have come along with combat pay, I think it is about time for them to start reaching for the check when it comes.[/QUOTE]On that point we agree!
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[QUOTE=RunMann;2044843]You really don't know Asian women![/QUOTE]Mr enternational,
Your story is impressive, you are a good story teller. I live in Japan and have travelled to many Asian countries. Many Asians over 30 are not beautiful most Asian women are not good performers. In Thailand or in other Asian countries, many women are not natural and want to look like white women. Sex is not a cultural thing in Thailand, most Thai hookers just do for money they are not pretty good at sex. The only Asian country where the sex is a cultural thing is Japan. You can keep believing they like having sex with you and lie yourself. But Asians are very good at hiding their feeling. Most Thai women that western or other foreign people meet in Thailand are from poor areas and country sides. They are uneducated. Most Thai women when they meet you they prepare a plan.
But in Reality they are only interested in your pocket why not to have a sponsor. The way how you describe your experience I get the feeling she wants to be sponsored by you. Come to Thailand without money, good place to sleep, and anything I am sure your experience will be different.
Culturally Asians except Japanese are not sexually open unless you pay a hooker. Japan is way different than other Asian countries.
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[QUOTE=Komo753;2045011]Many Asians over 30 are not beautiful most Asian women are not good performers.[/QUOTE]I found too many Thai women to be just too shy and inhibited regarding sex and their bodies. Even pros! Also, plenty of Asian women don't look so hot when they get old, including with some gross teeth man LOL!
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[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2044940]Please don't take offense but you have extreme feminist views. The reason women have been "excluded" from certain professions is because society used to have traditional gender roles. Men and women were supposed to do different things. This model or idea has withered away in the West since society has become individualised and hence some women regard old rules as being unfair and discriminating towards them. Let's however not fool ourselves. The more liberal and nontraditional society becomes, the less people get married, more people get divorced and less children are born. So, blaming all evils on men is simply foolish because in the end society as a whole will pay for this negative and quite dark development. A society with freedom for women but fewer children is a dying society.[/QUOTE]You clearly missed the point of this discussion. I was not and am not advocating anything for or on behalf of women or anyone else. I was making a point about it why they are so under represented in those occupations using facts unlike you who come at this topic with with your own Agenda. I don't care anything about it, my point was addressing the OP's point that women were reluctant to face danger, nothing else, you are on a whole other topic.
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[QUOTE=RunMann;2045093]MEN always set up the systems because they always think they know what's best.
You clearly missed the point of this discussion. I was not and am not advocating anything for or on behalf of women or anyone else. I was making a point about it why they are so under represented in those occupations using facts unlike you who come at this topic with with your own Agenda.[/QUOTE]In a previous post you blamed "Men" for setting up systems to obstruct women "because they always think they know what's best". Then you say I have "Agenda"?
I didn't miss any point but simply pointing out what you wrote. How about try to make some sense?
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[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2045097]In a previous post you blamed "Men" for setting up systems to obstruct women "because they always think they know what's best". Then you say I have "Agenda"?
I didn't miss any point but simply pointing out what you wrote. How about try to make some sense?[/QUOTE]You seem to be itching for a fight and so look elsewhere. I said men created the systems that prohibited women from entering those positions, plain as that and those are the facts. You can package it as you wish but again you clearly missed the point. I'm out!
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[QUOTE=Komo753;2045011]most Thai hookers just do for money[/QUOTE]Bro are you reading what you wrote? Of course hookers only do it for money. Why would you expect otherwise? Why do you go to work? The good thing is that out of a country with a population of 68 million people, not all women are hookers. And whether you are on the hooker side of the game or the non prostitute side of the game, your mileage will always vary. It appears that both our mileage are on opposite sides of the spectrum.
I have been in Thailand for 7 years and I have never given money to a chick that is not a hooker, neither have I been asked. So if they did not like fucking why would they keep coming back to fuck?
The dad of one chick I was fucking was in the hospital and the girl paid $3000 for his bill. Posters on Thai Visa were scolding me saying that I should have paid it. This type of thinking is totally beyond me. Why the hell would I offer to pay the bills of someone I have never met just because I am fucking his daughter? You guys bring this shit on yourselves. Even most of the hookers I know that guys are sending money to say they have never asked for anything. Guys just insist on sending.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2045092]I found too many Thai women to be just too shy and inhibited regarding sex and their bodies. Even pros! Also, plenty of Asian women don't look so hot when they get old, including with some gross teeth man LOL![/QUOTE]Or maybe those Thai women wanted you to think they were shy and inhibited, some of those women can be good actresses having left a trail of broken hearted men behind them. Just curious as to which group of women look good when they get old?
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In my opinion, the women who age the best are #1 paraguayas who have Guaraní blood and #2 Scandanavians, particularly Danish, who have healthy diets and lifestyles for the most part. And, of course, black don't crack. Paraguay has some women who are part Guaraní and part Irish or Scottish or German and they age very well. Personally I think Asian women age pretty well, if they don't smoke.
Older American women can be mostly classified into two categories: those who look like a bag of melted caramels and those who look like they got dumped out of a vacuum cleaner bag.
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Here is a slide show of some American women then and now pics.
[URL]http://photos.toofab.com/galleries/ladies_of_the_90s__then__now[/URL]#tab=most_recent&ID=1294733.
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[QUOTE=RunMann;2045194]Just curious as to which group of women look good when they get old?[/QUOTE]Ask Mr. E. he started this, not me. And I don't want women who act shy but really aren't. If anything, if you're going to act, then please do it the other way around. Be shy in reality, but act like a freak with me! This is what I need hehehe!
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That's a fact!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2044866]Women make up 10% of Law Enforcement Officers. Fewer than 4% of fire fighters. And seriously, how many women are itching for a combat position in the military, 1.7%.
Like I said, there are not a bunch of women running to the front of the line to take on danger. Not saying that I blame them, but if you want equality then you need to be ready to take on the tough responsibilities that come with that, instead of just reaping the sweet benefits. In the Navy we used to say Rank Has Its Privileges. Yeah, well it has a lot more freaking responsibilities to go along with them too.[/QUOTE]And the numbers support this fact. Only about 80 percent of all jobs across the entire military are combat arms jobs. In the Army 95 percent of all jobs are open to women. However, women only make up 13.6 percent of the Army; 6. 8 percent of the Marine Corps; 16.4 percent of the Navy; 19.1 percent of the Air Force; and 15.7 percent of the Coast Guard. Since the percentages of women and men making up the total USA Population are almost equal, and this holds true for ages between 17-35 years-old, women are under-represented in the ranks of the military. Therefore, it appears that women in general are shirking their duty to protect the freedoms they enjoy.
Furthermore, women are less likely to join the Army and the Marine Corps which are the branches of the military that suffer higher casualty rates, close with the enemy in close quarters combat with boots on the ground, and live in austere field conditions when forward deployed on small forward operating bases, patrol bases, and combat outposts. So, even when they sign up for military service most women are not running towards the danger. Sure there are some women in the military who are Amazons that can match or outperform their male peers in shooting, hand to hand combat, strategy and tactics. However, these type of women are an uncommon breed, and most women in uniform will never be mistaken for GI Jane or Wonder Woman.
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When Matriarchy Wins
[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2045097]In a previous post you blamed "Men" for setting up systems to obstruct women "because they always think they know what's best". [/QUOTE]This video explains what happens to civilizations when women think that they know best and implement their agenda. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxpVwBzFAkw[/URL].
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Fascinating video, thanks, CM. Thank God Ms. Clinton did not win the election but perhaps this is only a temporary setback for the feminist movement in America. I feel sorry for men in Sweden, Germany and England as these countries seem to be leading the way for women in power and the destruction of their countries. Relatively, I was recently forced by my employer, a university, to acknowledge written understanding of a five-hour series of "legal content" videos which in my opinion were designed to emasculate men, particularly white men and conservatives in general. Now anyone who has met me knows I am not a racist nor a religious nut nor but the whole experience only serves to solidify my intent to retire as quickly as financially beneficial and get the fuck out of Dodge. I wonder how many other American men who are not married and don't have kids are thinking and doing the same thing.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2045337]This video explains what happens to civilizations when women think that they know best and implement their agenda. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxpVwBzFAkw[/URL].[/QUOTE]
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Hey Montana,
Please update us on your situation. Have you dipped your stick abroad yet?
[QUOTE=Montanaland;1991340]Guys,
Here is my situation. And I'm sure its all too familiar.
I'm a 40 yr old guy who came to North Dakota for the oil boom 5 yrs ago. Long story short. I met the "coolest" girl in my dating history. She used to live in Pheonix and has slept with 30+ guys before me. She has the most mileage on her that I've ever seriously dated. Now were are living together and her liberal smart mouth is always going off and she is only open to sex 2-3 times a month. She cleans. But hardly cooks.
My question is- would a month in Asia seriously open my eyes? And is it like night and day. Shagging and experiencing feminine women?[/QUOTE]
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Mr Enternational,
I read all my comments, first Asian women are way different than other women, they are less direct than other women. They never ask for money because they always prepare a strategy, it is their nature. They pretend not to be interested in your pocket. Their objective is that you fall into their trap, (oh this girl is nice, she is not interested in my pocket she is real I feel useful to her it is as if I exist for her) you would feel guilty for not giving money to an innocent looking woman because you think she is so nice and honest but in reality they are not as innocent as she looks. If you go with an Asian woman you have to look after all her family I am not interested in taking care of people I don't know and I don't have empathy for. Stay with an Asian girl without giving a penny, I am sure she will leave directly. Asian women expect you to offer money without her having to ask you.
In Thailand many western men or American men are ripped off by those girls, they send money to their family, the day when they spend all their money and they are out they will see their girlfriend's attitude changed. She will just say bye I got all I want from you. The Thai government is always for Thai people, even if you are not in the wrong. Many men lost and are still losing all their savings just for a Thai woman.
I know the Asian culture very there are many Asian immigrants in Japan, I have travelled to many Asian countries. Thailand is my favourite place when I travel with a woman I love, I love the country, food, the weather etc. I am not interested to monger there.
Asian women don't age well, they don't have a good body, most middle aged women are ugly and not sexy, I saw many eastern Europeans that age well, have a sexy body, beautiful legs, good looking face. Many eastern Europeans over 30 are still fuckable. They are more independent they know how to treat a man, they are very passive, they don't have a big useless family. Most east European and Russian women are hard workers, they study hard to work in a big profession just to find a man they are more family oriented. Just check every country, women's behaviours are often because of men, In the USA women are not feminine because of men that get pushed around and led by those women. Because they can't manage their own women, most men are soft, their women act like men, talk like men, not all women are like that but most of them, I have already had some relationships with some good american women that are feminine and that know how to treat a man. When men act like men, women are better.
I got a cheap return ticket for 150 dollars to go to Thailand but I am not interested because if I spend money I only spend money on things I like. I am gentleman and I know how to respect and treat a woman but I don't get pushed around. Thailand is the perfect place for honeymoon, visit but not monger.
If you love Asian women it is your choice, if you find your happiness good for you, fortunately we all are different and have different taste. If not there would be more war in this world.
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Fat American woman boasts that ripped husband loves her rolls!
"I don't have a flat stomach, I jiggle when I walk, if I run up the stairs too fast my body claps! But now I see I do have the 'perfect'"body! She wrote. "Every roll, every curve and every stretch mark is put on me just perfect to make both of us happy! I love my body and I finally see why he does too!
Take a good look guys! This is what American women want you to accept as the new norm. You must must be a muscular ripped and shredded stud with a good income, and love her. [URL]http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/healthtrending/this-couples-bathing-suit-photo-is-going-viral-for-the-best-reason/ar-BBCjwoJ?li=BBnbfcL[/URL].
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2045319]And the numbers support this fact. Only about 80 percent of all jobs across the entire military are combat arms jobs. In the Army 95 percent of all jobs are open to women. , [/QUOTE]Anyone can come on the net and shuck and jive you with a bunch of numbers but a 1st grader knows this a blatant LIE! About 24 percent of the Army's positions are combat arms and the same for the other services. If the military had 80% combat arms positions who would be supporting them? There are more combat service support and combat support than there will ever be combat arm positions. Signal, administration, aviation, quartermaster, chemical, engineers, military police, finance, medical and dental corps are all examples of military branches that far out number the Infantry branch they support.
The Combat arms positions or MOS were only opened to women about a year ago, they can't be expected to be staffed at the same rate as men after a year or be in to position that were closed to them, just common sense. Besides its not enough for them to ask to get in, women coming in to the military have to qualify for those positons. Similarly those Soldiers who are currently serving and want to reclassify into the combat arms MOS must be serving in a shortage MOS or they can't get out to go combat arms.
As to the women shirking their duties because they don't serve as the same rate as men argument, if men were able to give birth as women do, would they be in the military at the rate they are in now? Wait for the predictable feminist card to pop up now after that statement. Also if they wanted to avoid combat, why did they push so hard to be able to get into combat arms MOS?
Here are two article from the Army detailing this issue where they give facts about women aggressive pursuing combat arm positions despite the opinion expressed by this monger.
[URL]https://www.army.mil/article/179741/more_women_than_expected_pursuing_combat_arms_positions[/URL]
[URL]https://www.armytimes.com/story/military/careers/army/enlisted/2016/04/04/army-seeks-enlisted-women-infantry-armor-and-12-other-combat-jobs/82619642/[/URL]
[B]Full gender integration in the Army is exceeding expectations, with more than 300 women successfully recruited or transferred into the service's most physically demanding career fields in 2016, according to senior leaders. Earlier this year, the Army opened about 138,000 positions once closed to women in the infantry, armor, field artillery and Special Forces.
The influx of women interested in combat arms has surprised Van Roosen and others who expected to see half that number of women by this time after the defense secretary approved the Army's implementation plan in March. "This is a real success story," he told representatives of military and veteran service organizations who visited the Pentagon Wednesday. "This has gone far better than we anticipated. ".[/B]
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Yes, well, because men in the Yew Ess are desperate for any kind of pussy they can find. It's sad. I'm in the Cantabria region of Spain right now and the women can go out at night very well put together, or they can also look good in casual clothes. And the food is about 17 times better and about 1/3 less fattening. I just made those numbers up but you can come here and see what I am talking about. They don't work as many hours and they don't have all these homeless bullshit junkie assholes. Yes, Spain has a heroin problem in some areas, mostly in the south, but when decent wine costs a dollar a liter, the junkies don't run around robbing people like in the US. If the junkies start to Jones they buy a bunch of cheap wine and chill.
I still think the best advice was given by my friend Loose Bruce. He was from a rich family and married into a rich family and he said, 'If my wife doesn't want to have sex, I lie next to her, jack off, and wipe it on her. '.
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[QUOTE=DCups;2045454]Fascinating video, thanks, CM. Thank God Ms. Clinton did not win the election but perhaps this is only a temporary setback for the feminist movement in America. I feel sorry for men in Sweden, Germany and England as these countries seem to be leading the way for women in power and the destruction of their countries. Relatively, I was recently forced by my employer, a university, to acknowledge written understanding of a five-hour series of "legal content" videos which in my opinion were designed to emasculate men, particularly white men and conservatives in general. Now anyone who has met me knows I am not a racist nor a religious nut nor but the whole experience only serves to solidify my intent to retire as quickly as financially beneficial and get the fuck out of Dodge. I wonder how many other American men who are not married and don't have kids are thinking and doing the same thing.[/QUOTE]Germany is not really feminist and many European countries are not feminist, their chancellor is a woman but the prostitution is still legal they will never change. In Brazil there was a female president but the country is not feminist.
Many American men have a big complex regardless of the race. Porno is legal but prostitution is illegal it is as if they want their people to spend their time watching videos while jacking off without knowing the real pleasure of the life it is as if they cautious people against real sex and say fantasy is better than reality. HIV rate is bigger in the USA than many countries with legal prostitution, sexually open people, STI is just an excuse The USA is not really open at sex as we believe. If Clinton would have won the election the USA would be still the same. Women's behaviours are often because of men. Lets check the difference between South america and North America, How men from both countries act and how women from both countries act. Their behaviours are really different. The problem is not from the leader or a group of people but the problem is often cultural. No country is perfect, there are good and bad things in every country, we are talking about the perfect women. There is a big difference between western European women and American women. Feminism exists in Europe but it is not as big as the USA. In the US army men are forced to shave their head but not women. It is as if american women want the same favors as men but not the same responsibilities.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;2045613]I still think the best advice was given by my friend Loose Bruce. He was from a rich family and married into a rich family and he said, 'If my wife doesn't want to have sex, I lie next to her, jack off, and wipe it on her. '.[/QUOTE]LOL, Priceless!
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[QUOTE=DCups;2045465]Hey Montana, Please update us on your situation. Have you dipped your stick abroad yet?[/QUOTE]I think that was fake.
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[QUOTE=Komo753;2045477]I read all my comments, first Asian women are way different than other women, they are less direct than other women. They never ask for money because they always prepare a strategy, it is their nature. They pretend not to be interested in your pocket. Their objective is that you fall into their trap, (oh this girl is nice, she is not interested in my pocket she is real I feel useful to her it is as if I exist for her) you would feel guilty for not giving money to an innocent looking woman because you think she is so nice and honest but in reality they are not as innocent as she looks. If you go with an Asian woman you have to look after all her family I am not interested in taking care of people I don't know and I don't have empathy for. Stay with an Asian girl without giving a penny, I am sure she will leave directly. [/QUOTE]Trap? Feel Guilty? Take care of family? Man that is sucker talk and I have never had those types of problems. Where are you finding these type women because we must be in a different Asia.
It seems you are a guy that is afraid to say no because you are afraid you will miss out on some pussy. Well no normal Asian woman has even tried to even ask anything like that of me. You say that you live in Japan. A few years ago in the States I met a girl from Chiba that was on her way home. The next month she came to see me in Thailand with her own damn money. Even back when I was in the Navy I would hear stories about guys going to Japan and meeting women that had their own money and would dutifully spend it on the guys. Hell, I met some of the same Japanese women when I was stationed in San Diego.
The shit you are saying is what guys say in other threads such as Dominican Republic and Colombia. You said it best in your other post when you mentioned hookers. There is a big ass difference between a hooker and a normal chick. But it seems many guys on ISG only deal with hookers so they think the way of the hooker is the way of the general population.
(Then when they meet a normal chick they insist on giving her money as they would a hooker. Case in point: Just last month a guy I know that frequents Dominican Republic was looking for a serious relationship/wife but in a country with millions of people tended to only consider hookers that he had met in one small town where all the hookers and foreigners congregate. These hookers took full advantage of his gullibility. I decided to hook him up with a normal hair dresser chick. And guess what the first thing he wanted to do was? Send her some money. Despite her telling him she did not want money from him and me telling him not to do it. But he fucking insisted.)
That could not be farther from the truth. I have had too many women that come over just to get fucked or to go on normal dates to believe the BS you are spewing. I understand that may be your experience, but as I said before my experiences are polar opposite. I pay hookers at the time services are rendered. Normal women do not get money from me; so they must be hanging around for some other reason. Money is not going to buy you love, it can only rent you some pussy.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2045666]Trap? Feel Guilty? Take care of family? Man that is sucker talk and I have never had those types of problems. Where are you finding these type women because we must be in a different Asia.
It seems you are a guy that is afraid to say no because you are afraid you will miss out on some pussy. Well no normal Asian woman has even tried to even ask anything like that of me. You say that you live in Japan. A few years ago in the States I met a girl from Chiba that was on her way home. The next month she came to see me in Thailand with her own damn money. Even back when I was in the Navy I would hear stories about guys going to Japan and meeting women that had their own money and would dutifully spend it on the guys. Hell, I met some of the same Japanese women when I was stationed in San Diego.
The shit you are saying is what guys say in other threads such as Dominican Republic and Colombia. You said it best in your other post when you mentioned hookers. There is a big ass difference between a hooker and a normal chick. But it seems many guys on ISG only deal with hookers so they think the way of the hooker is the way of the general population. .[/QUOTE]We are in different Asia, you are in Thailand where most women are hookers and I am in Japan, Thailand and Philippines are known to have the biggest prostitution rate. That doesn't mean they are open to sex, Japan is not a sex destination but Japanese people are sexual more open. Sex is not a taboo. Most foreign hookers here are from China, Philippines, Thailand. There are also Japanese hookers they work in cleaner places and they are more expensive. They never work in the same place as foreign women. The worst is many of those women to impersonate a Japanese woman but they are not, you must be Japanese or live in Japan for a while to know that. As I said Asian women are good at hiding their feelings and lying.
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The true test will come in the Fiery Crucible of war against a major power
The issue of women serving in combat arms came about because some women complained that being excluded from these positions reduced their opportunities to become generals. It was never about making the military better at winning wars. The first attempt to sell the American public the idea of a fierce female warrior came with the Jessica Lynch fiasco in Iraq. [URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/may/15/iraq.usa2[/URL].
A yearlong Marine Corps study trying to understand how gender integration would affect combat readiness has found that all-male units were faster, more lethal and able to evacuate casualties in less time.
Overall, according to a summary of the study, all-male squads performed better than mixed groups in 69 percent of the tasks evaluated.
"The Marines created a battalion of 100 female and 300 male volunteers. During the past year, they trained in North Carolina and California, taking part in realistic combat exercises.
"All-male squads, the study found, performed better than mixed gender units across the board. The males were more accurate hitting targets, faster at climbing over obstacles, better at avoiding injuries.
"The Marine study says its main focus is maximum combat effectiveness, because it means fewer casualties."
[URL]http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/10/439190586/marine-corps-study-finds-all-male-combat-units-faster-than-mixed-units[/URL]
Daniel L. Davis wrote:
Women have long been an integral part of the USA Military, having performed admirably in some cases, heroically in Operations Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom. Over the past month and a half a succession of some of the nation's most powerful civilian and military leaders have lauded the recent decision to remove all restrictions on what jobs women can fill in the USA Armed Forces. Lifting the ban, they say, will make the military stronger. They are wrong.
The very best outcome we can hope for is that the Armed Forces' abilities will remain static. The most likely outcome, however, is that there will be some degradation in the units that are charged with some of the most critical roles: closing with and destroying enemy forces. Lifting the restrictions was, no doubt, designed to elevate the stature of women and give them an opportunity in the military equal with men. The result of the move, unfortunately, is likely to be that we'll place women at a disadvantage and put them in a danger greater than that faced by men in combat.
If the only enemy the United States ever faced was an insurgent group with no tanks, no artillery battalions, no attack helicopters, no jets and no formal logistics systems, then the USA Military will never face an existential fight and will thus never risk being driven from the field. In such an environment, you can do almost anything to a combat unit and it'll successfully accomplish its mission. Let the enemy be Russia, China or a few other armed forces and the situation changes dramatically.
[URL]http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-skeptics/the-truth-about-women-ground-combat-roles-14904[/URL]
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[QUOTE=RunMann;2045246]Here is a slide show of some American women then and now pics.
[URL]http://photos.toofab.com/galleries/ladies_of_the_90s__then__now[/URL]#tab=most_recent&ID=1294733.[/QUOTE]Some of them aged well. Can't get any better than Salma Hayek!
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Komo. Take off your blinders
Komo,
You may know some Thai girls but obviously you have no experience with other Asian cultures. Filipinos, for example, have no shame asking for money, even to complete strangers. Their boldness astounds me. Most all think we Westerners have unlimited funds to give away. How do you tell if a Filipina is lying? Their lips are moving. Still, they are sweet, sexy, speak English and fuck like minks with those tiny little twats. Not all pinays are this way but most are IMO and experience. I lived in PI in the 80's (military) and have been there 14 X in the last 6 years (Manila, Angeles City, Subic, Cebu and Dumaguete mostly). Eventually I want to find a sexy, big tits (well even a C Cup is big on a small frame), smart one (nurse, doctor, preferably) when I move there in 5 but until then my scorecard is wide open.
As for war, agreed, too much war but there will always be war as long as some group of idiots led by more empowered idiots devalue everyone who doesn't subscribe to their brand of idiocy. Meanwhile we are way off the thread topic of bashing American Women. I like to contribute to this thread because it is somewhat of a catharsis for me. If I expressed my disdain for AWs publicly I would 1) not have any American friends at all and 2) likely be fired from my job post haste. So this is the only place I can let it out.
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[QUOTE=Komo753;2045624]Germany is not really feminist and many European countries are not feminist, their chancellor is a woman but the prostitution is still legal they will never change. In Brazil there was a female president but the country is not feminist..[/QUOTE]Germany is a bit more enlightened, and made it legal. They probably have a lot less sexual violence than the USA.
[QUOTE=Komo753;2045624]Porno is legal but prostitution is illegal it is as if they want their people to spend their time watching videos while jacking off [/QUOTE]Sex sells, but so does guilt. It is also a big part of American advertising, thus the culture. Its not feminism that keeps USA hooking illegal, it Christian right. Hypocrites like the Duggars that molest yet push God down your fucking throat, all the while passing the pot to empty your pockets. If you really want to cut welfare, allow the snatches to sell it.
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Asia bound sooner than later
[QUOTE=DCups;2045465]Hey Montana,
Please update us on your situation. Have you dipped your stick abroad yet?[/QUOTE]Hey Cups!
No update to report yet, as I'm still ND through through the summer padding my savings acct. For my maiden trip. It's amazing how time flies bye when your entangled with an American wench in the arctic.
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[QUOTE=DCups;2045813]Komo,
You may know some Thai girls but obviously you have no experience with other Asian cultures. Filipinos, for example, have no shame asking for money, even to complete strangers. Their boldness astounds me. Most all think we Westerners have unlimited funds to give away. How do you tell if a Filipina is lying? Their lips are moving. Still, they are sweet, sexy, speak English and fuck like minks with those tiny little twats. Not all pinays are this way but most are IMO and experience. I lived in PI in the 80's (military) and have been there 14 X in the last 6 years (Manila, Angeles City, Subic, Cebu and Dumaguete mostly). Eventually I want to find a sexy, big tits (well even a C Cup is big on a small frame), smart one (nurse, doctor, preferably) when I move there in 5 but until then my scorecard is wide open.
As for war, agreed, too much war but there will always be war as long as some group of idiots led by more empowered idiots devalue everyone who doesn't subscribe to their brand of idiocy. Meanwhile we are way off the thread topic of bashing American Women. I like to contribute to this thread because it is somewhat of a catharsis for me. If I expressed my disdain for AWs publicly I would 1) not have any American friends at all and 2) likely be fired from my job post haste. So this is the only place I can let it out.[/QUOTE]I don't know Philippines, I've never been there, I was talking about Thailand, I just say Philippines has the biggest prostitution rate with Thailand. I have never mongered in Asia because Asian women are not my taste. I often monger in Eastern Europe, southern Europe and Brazil. The only Asian women I fucked with are Japanese and Korean women. In Asia I have a preference for light skinned Asians. Globally I prefer Brazilians and Eastern Europeans. I know Japan better than other Asian countries.
Two weeks ago a chick from San Francisco stayed in my place one week before leaving for Korea, she did not want me to cum in her mouth and do anal. Sex with her was just OK but still better than nothing, because in Japan you don't meet white women everyday.
I miss Brazilian women, I can't wait to go back there.
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The Never Ending Changing Positions
First the argument was that women were not willing to face danger, then they were shirking their responsibilities as citizens and the biggest whopper of all the make-up of the country's military being 80 percent combat arms. When presented with evidence that those claims were false, the discussion marches on to the 'predictable social change is bad for the military. ' The idea that women serving in the military will lead to a degradation of the military was also made when the military wanted to integrate blacks and whites and more recently when they wanted gays to serve openly. The usual suspects armed with little or no evidence objected in both situations and cited decrease moral and a decrease in effectiveness / degradation argument. In both cases they were wrong and to date have been proven so as there have been no significant issue in those situation that warrant a reversal of those two changes.
The point that women only want to go to combat because they want the opportunity to be Generals, wow, lets accept that as being true, so what? Why would they not want to be Generals, men want to so why not them? How is that a negative or something that should be used against them, Its like saying women only want to work tough jobs in the corporate world so they can be CEOs, like men don't.
Anyone can have contrarians opinions on anything, it doesn't make them right. History will show over time if this change was good or bad but any major change will produce naysayer who want to March in place and love the status quo. This line of thinking was present when integration in the military and allowing gays to serve openly topics were introduced and some experts vehemently opposed those changes too.
This country did poorly in previous wars when only men served. Saying women shouldn't serve in combat because they will weaken the military is just looney supported by no facts. A Marine Corp study conducted by anyone would have to show the study was independent and un-bias, the MC was opposed to the idea of women in combat from the start. Even if you accept the study, its still a study and not enough to eliminate people from serving in Combat If women were crying that they did not want to serve in combat because they are weak and they are women, the derision they would get would be maddening but because they want to serve, there are some people questioning the motives, weird!
The world changes and move on even if some people don't. Time will tell if women in combat was a good or bad move but let their actions on the battlefield tell us that, not antiquated or resistance to change opinionated people. Given that the battlefield is no longer what it was 30 years ago and the front line of combat could be right at America's front door, the military's tactics and strategy has to change and well as the views of the country.
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[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2045902]Germany is a bit more enlightened, and made it legal. They probably have a lot less sexual violence than the USA.
Sex sells, but so does guilt. It is also a big part of American advertising, thus the culture. Its not feminism that keeps USA hooking illegal, it Christian right. Hypocrites like the Duggars that molest yet push God down your fucking throat, all the while passing the pot to empty your pockets. If you really want to cut welfare, allow the snatches to sell it.[/QUOTE]Canada is worse, selling sex is legal but buying sex is illegal. In the US maybe one day they will make prostitution legal, now gay marriages are legal. Feminism and Religions are the problem. We are free to do what we want and we are adults. Religions don't have to be a part of politics. People can practise any religion freely but they don't have to involve people or the law in their religion. Fortunately not every country entails religions with politics.
Women's behaviours are often because of men, just check how western Europeans and east Europeans act. The harder men are, the nicer women are. Every country is different. Western Europeans are not as feminist as american women. Latin America and Eastern Europe are a macho culture. I think men must change if they want their women to change. If american men don't stand up for themselves against that, things will get worse. The problems are often from men. They have to stop complaining and saying it is often because of women, instead of complaining all the time, they just have to solve their problems by themselves. They don't have to expect women to change before they do the necessary to make women change.
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[QUOTE=Komo753;2046057]Canada is worse, selling sex is legal but buying sex is illegal. In the US maybe one day they will make prostitution legal, now gay marriages are legal. Feminism and Religions are the problem. We are free to do what we want and we are adults. Religions don't have to be a part of politics. People can practise any religion freely but they don't have to involve people or the law in their religion. Fortunately not every country entails religions with politics.[/QUOTE]Not surprised to read this, anything with a vagina enjoys a double standard. Naaw, the separation of church and state thing is a joke. Not as long as our scumbag Congress continues to take a buck from anybody with one to give will we see prostitution legal- at least not in my lifetime.
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[QUOTE=Shark5;2045804]Some of them aged well. Can't get any better than Salma Hayek![/QUOTE]Ummmmmm Salma Hayek is méxican so probably not a good example of how well AWs age. Jeezus.
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[QUOTE=Komo753;2046057]Canada is worse, selling sex is legal but buying sex is illegal.[/QUOTE]I think you are confusing Canada with Sweden. I guess that might be an easy mistake to make. Or not.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;2046331]Who in the fuck told you that? I think you are confusing Canada with Sweden. I guess that might be an easy mistake to make. Or not.[/QUOTE]I am from Quebec.
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The campaign against man spreading
Transport chiefs in the Spanish capital, Madrid, have launched a campaign discouraging "manspreading" - men encroaching on other seats by sitting with their legs wide apart. Bus operator EMT is putting up new signs showing a seated male figure, legs akimbo, next to a big red cross.
A similar campaign is planned for the city's Metro system. The move follows an online petition by a women's campaign group, which garnered more than 12,000 signatures. Manspreading. Which was accepted as a word in the online Oxford dictionary two years ago. Is already discouraged in some other cities around the world. EMT said in a statement (in Spanish) that the aim of the new signs was to remind male travellers "of the need to maintain civic behaviour and to respect the space of everyone on board the bus".
The women's group Mujeres en Lucha (Women in Struggle) said in its online petition that it was not uncommon on public transport to see women "with their legs closed and very uncomfortable because there is a man next to her invading her space".
In 2014, New York's Metropolitan Transportation Authority decided to crack down on the manspreading scourge with signs on the city's Metro that read: "Dude. Stop the spread, please. ".
The US city of Philadelphia also launched a "Dude, it's Rude" campaign, while Seattle's transport provider put up signs showing an octopus with its tentacles draped over bordering seats.
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First female commander of Marine One fired after beating her wife!
[URL]http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/06/07/first-female-commander-of-marine-one-fired-after-assault-charge.html[/URL]
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Keep saving, keep saving, buddy. I'm saving up, too, for my next trips to BKK / PI in Oct / Nov and DDDR (Dominican Republic) in December. Got the plane tickets, tho. I always get the plane tickets, first (Philippine Airlines direct from SFO or LAX) (or expedia packages with Delta or Jet Blue to DR). Then piecemeal the hotels through [URL]agoda.com[/URL] or expedia. Then 500 to 1000 each month prior to departure for the p*why and food. Cheers! Give me a call again because I lost my old phone.
[QUOTE=Montanaland;2045905]Hey Cups!
No update to report yet, as I'm still ND through through the summer padding my savings acct. For my maiden trip. It's amazing how time flies bye when your entangled with an American wench in the arctic.[/QUOTE]
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He's right. Canada currently follows the Swedish model, which is totally stupid and ineffective. It's illegal to buy sex, but not illegal to sell it, including placing advertisements offering sex for sale! Totally ridiculous. Here's a summary of what went into effect in 2014: [URL]https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canadas-new-prostitution-laws-everything-you-need-to-know/article19610318/.[/URL].
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Yes, we should not have female commanders because of the domestic assault of one but males commaders who are constantly in the news for the same and much worse behavior and are an embarrassment to their command and the country is ok because they are males. Domestic abuse is wide spread throughout the military as it is in America but every one of these commanders below are much senior officers to LTC Grieves and their crimes are oh so much more serious.
General fired for using tax payers dollars to pay for prostitutes in Korea.
[URL]http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/news/national-govt--politics/army-general-fired-after-visiting-hooker-hill-public-dime/0t7on3j5chq2TcfQqtzwNL/[/URL]
Another Male General busted after swinging life style which made him a security risk and having 11 year extramarital affair.
[URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/16/army-demotes-swinging-general-david-haight/95493058/[/URL]
Air Force Colonel / Commander charged with ChilD porn, gets a year in Jail, kicked out of Air Force.
[URL]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/17/air-force-colonel-sentenced-for-child-porn-mishandling-classified-documents.htm[/URL]
Army demotes Commanding General two ranks for sexual misconduct.
[URL]http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-army-sinclair-demoted-20140620-story.html[/URL]
Male Marne Colonel charged with sexual abuse of a child and is now in jail facing more charges.
[URL]https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/articles/marine-colonel-charged-with-sex-assault-sent-to-brig-amid-new-allegations[/URL]
[URL]http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/11/30/marine-colonel-charged-with-alleged-sex-assault-of-a-child.html[/URL]
General Petraeus busted for putting himself before his country and shared classified into with his lover.
[URL]http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/23/politics/david-petraeus-sentencing/[/URL]
Marine Colonel / commander busted for secxual relation with a subordinate.
[URL]https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2016/05/27/marine-colonel-admits-relationship-female-subordinate-during-court-martial/85043862/[/URL]
Air Force Colonel Charge with are R A P E, found dead, suspected suicide.
[URL]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/air-force-colonel-eugene-caughey-charged-with-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]-found-dead-at-home/[/URL]
Army Colonel, age 51 guilty of child sex crime with a child under 16, gets 8 years.
[URL]http://popularmilitary.com/army-colonel-pleads-guilty-to-child-sex-crimes-will-be-locked-up-for-8-years/[/URL]
These so many more but why bother, boys will be boys, just ask President Slick Willie, Commander in Chief who did not have sexual relations with that woman he only got head in the Oval Office but was allowed to keep his job.
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Predator
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2042885]After 12 years of marriage to the female predator who sexually abused him and robbed him of his childhood, Vili Fualaau filed for legal separation but Mary Kay Letourneau is determined to maintain her hold over him and her lawyer is trying to have the case dismissed. It seems like little Vili has grown up and gotten over the "hot-for-teacher" thing, and at 33 years of age, he is no longer interested in rooting an insane postmenopausal 55-year-old woman.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/06/10/math-teacher-arrested-for-allegedly-having-sex-with-3-students/22136059/[/URL]
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This could've been me had I stayed in (USAF) in the 80's. Things were a little wilder then tho. I was sexually fraternizing with many enlisted cuties although never formally charged. It was quite common for single officers to date enlisted and vice-versa. Extramarital affairs were also quite common in both ranks. As for ladies of the evening, my first night as an officer in Korea my troops and fellow officers took me out to a Korean bar with the expressed purpose of getting me drunk and laid. They succeeded. This was the custom for "green beans". It was actually kind of funny because I didn't know she was a prostitute (never asked me for any money) until the next morning she took me shopping for her new shoes, coat and other things. When I refused to pay the shop owner she made a scene screaming for the MPs (military police). So, I threw $30 at her and left. This was my introduction to the world of mongering in 1981 hahah. As for woman commanders, I had one good one. The rest fucked their way to the top. Literally. As for Slick Willie we should thank him for demoting blowjobs out of the realm of actual sex. As in "honey, it was only a blowjob, not really sex". Yeah, right.
Cheers.
[quote=Run Mann] Army demotes Commanding General two ranks for sexual misconduct. There so many more but why bother, boys will be boys, just ask President Slick Willie, Commander in Chief who did not have sexual relations with that woman he only got head in the Oval Office but was allowed to keep his job[/quote]
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Balanced
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2046364]First female commander of Marine One fired after beating her wife!
[URL]http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/06/07/first-female-commander-of-marine-one-fired-after-assault-charge.html[/URL][/QUOTE]But then there is this:
[URL]http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/06/11/first-woman-assumes-command-of-special-forces-group-battalion.html[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Komo753;2046344]I am from Quebec.[/QUOTE]I stand corrected. I last mongered in Canada in 2013. Guess I won't be doing it again. That is too bad since I am going to Montréal for the first time a week from tomorrow.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2046543][URL]https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/06/10/math-teacher-arrested-for-allegedly-having-sex-with-3-students/22136059/[/URL][/QUOTE]Hahahaha, Of course if you're 17 and even 16 and a 25 year old teacher that looks like that has sexual relations with you're scarred for life or maybe not. Wish I had a teacher like that when I was 17 who gave me the business like she did these boys.
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Female versions of Tennessee teacher, Tad Cummins
[QUOTE=TheCane;2046543][URL]https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/06/10/math-teacher-arrested-for-allegedly-having-sex-with-3-students/22136059/[/URL][/QUOTE]Let's say a male teacher was arrested for having sex with a girl in his sixth-grade class. People would cry "Pervert!" and demand that he be locked up. This was seen recently when Tennessee teacher, 50-year-old Tad Cummins, ran off with his student, Elizabeth Thomas, 15.
But when the perpetrator is a woman. And an attractive one at that. And the student is a pubescent boy, the prevailing thought is that she seduced him into an affair.
This double standard is clear in the case of Mary Kay Letourneau, the Washington State woman released after serving seven and a half years in prison for having sex with her student, Vili Fualaau. He's seen, with a wink and a grin, as a big man for scoring with an older babe. And she's seen as the siren who betrayed her husband and abandoned her four children in a misguided quest for love.
Vili was 12 when his teacher began to groom him for sex. She was 34. He wasn't a young stud, but a child exploited by an adult who was obviously mentally disturbed. She was not a seductress and they did not have trysts. She was a predator and what happened between them was a crime.
Justice prevailed in this case. Though it rarely even gets a chance in most instances of child sexual abuse. Primarily because Ms. Letourneau blatantly violated parole after her first conviction and had sex again with Vili, who was then 13.
But if you ask the public's opinion, you will find that few people think that Ms. Letourneau's crime is as serious as that of a man having sex with a girl. Even if you discount the illicit, immoral nature of sexual contact between a 12-year-old and 34-year-old, how could there really be a "relationship," as it's often been described, between them?
The news media fuel the misconceptions. "Mary Kay gets her boy toy back," guffawed The New York Post on its front page. Many articles and TV reports have focused on the salacious specter of abuser and victim reuniting, with the two children they produced, as one big happy family. A tabloid once described Mr. Fualaau as saying that the two had sex in nearly every room of her house, something you'd never read about a man violating a child. But nobody talks about why Vili Fualaau was vulnerable to Ms. Letourneau in the first place, and the damage that childhood sex with an adult has caused to his psyche. Boys, the assumption goes, can take care of themselves.
Behind the distorted views is the myth that boys cannot be violated by women. According to statistics from the National Center for Juvenile Justice, women commit 20 percent of sexual abuse of boys (and 5 percent of abuse of girls).
Biologically, research shows, the body responds to stimulation even when the mind says no. Boys may consent to sex with a woman because it's easier to identify with "getting over' on someone, than being powerless to stop an attack. But even when children consent, it doesn't count because they lack the emotional and intellectual maturity to understand what they're doing.
Studies show that male survivors also grapple with feelings of isolation, inadequacy and vulnerability, concerns about their sexuality and masculinity, and difficulties finding resources and support. Physically or sexually abused boys are more likely than those not abused to smoke, drink or use drugs. And in one study, 57 percent of molesters were themselves sexually abused as children.
In an interview on the NBC program "Today', Mr. Fualaau tried to explain whether he and Ms. Letourneau might reunite by saying, "I mean, we left on awkward terms. " It was reminiscent of a 50-something woman who described how, when she was a teenager, an uncle would come to her for sex. He stopped for a few years, she said, "And then we got back together. " Her sense of reality was so altered by her experience that she saw a relationship. Such is the case with Vili Fualaau.
There can be no happily ever after to this sad tale. Mr. Fualaau, at 21, said he wanted to be with Ms. Letourneau, and a judge lifted an order banning contact. The court has recognized that as an adult, he has a right to see her, but it's important to remember that the decision to do so was never his. Ms. Letourneau took away Mr. Fualaau's ability to choose for himself many years ago.
One type of female offender prefers to offend with teenagers. According to psychologists, these women are often lonely and angry, have difficulty with relationships with men, have poor understanding of sexual norms and have unresolved feelings from being abused themselves. Their victims are seen as developing young men "experimenting" with their sexuality. Many male victims recount being congratulated instead of being given assistance when attempting to report the abuse. If the same thing was done to female victims of male perpetrators, there would be outrage and those failing in their duty to assist them would face severe consequences. However, female predators continue to get off lightly because of their gender.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;2046687]I stand corrected. I last mongered in Canada in 2013. Guess I won't be doing it again. That is too bad since I am going to Montral for the first time a week from tomorrow.[/QUOTE]I hope this is just your well-known sarcasm at work.
The Canadian law is simply being ignored by the police when it comes to the booking of escorts 18 or older.
Prostitution is illegal in Thailand but it is my understanding that some commercial sex activity occurs there, also.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2046850]I hope this is just your well-known sarcasm at work.
The Canadian law is simply being ignored by the police when it comes to the booking of escorts 18 or older.
Prostitution is illegal in Thailand but it is my understanding that some commercial sex activity occurs there, also.[/QUOTE]Not the same at all. In Thailand it is sometimes ignored because of the palms that are greased. If you do not pay the police you can not even have a regular business, and you are talking about an illegal one. A couple of years ago my exgirlfriend owned a botox, etc business and had to pay the police US $500/ month. I still have not gotten the scoop on how much those gogos have to pay. But on any given Tuesday night you will see the mamasan going to the door with a small bag when the pickup person comes. If not, then you will read about the raid online and see it on the news.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2046850]I hope this is just your well-known sarcasm at work.
The Canadian law is simply being ignored by the police when it comes to the booking of escorts 18 or older.
Prostitution is illegal in Thailand but it is my understanding that some commercial sex activity occurs there, also.[/QUOTE]It is not always ignored, it is like when you travel, there are some immigration officers that ignore some offenses and some don't. It depends on the person that's in front of you. Police agents are humans.
If you get stolen or scammed or have trouble with the girl, you are fucked up because the law will not be with you. Even in the USA, prostitution is ignored by the police. There are always people that enforce the law. People are different.
In Japan, prostitution is legal but it is forbidden to sell your vagina. Hand Job, Blow Job, CIM, Anal Sex, etc are legal, Only vaginal sex is illegal. There are many brothels that are called Soapland. Many people do vaginal but nobody knows because you can always claim you only had blow job or anal sex. Japanese authorities never inspect because these Soaplands pay taxes to the Japanese government. If the government closes down those Soaplands they will lose money. That's why they let it to happen.
When prostitution is legal, people are more comfortable and don't need to hide all the time.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2046633]But then there is this:
[URL]http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/06/11/first-woman-assumes-command-of-special-forces-group-battalion.html[/URL][/QUOTE]She was selected for the position based on her qualifications which is the way it should be, now she has to get out there perform well to show that she deserved it.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2046910]Not the same at all. In Thailand it is sometimes ignored because of the palms that are greased. If you do not pay the police you can not even have a regular business, and you are talking about an illegal one. A couple of years ago my exgirlfriend owned a botox, etc business and had to pay the police US $500/ month. I still have not gotten the scoop on how much those gogos have to pay. But on any given Tuesday night you will see the mamasan going to the door with a small bag when the pickup person comes. If not, then you will read about the raid online and see it on the news.[/QUOTE]What I meant is that a person cannot just read the laws of a country to determine the risks, he must gain an understanding of how those laws are enforced. That requires some research and often joining a local John review board. That is true in every country, including Canada and the USA For instance, there is quite a difference in terms of risk of arrest in the USA between responding to an ad from an unreviewed provider on a Backpage type of website, versus seeing a $400 independent escort who screens, has her own website, and has reviews. A foreigner reading years ago that the speed limit on the interstate highways is 55 mph would not have realized that the risk of arrest for going 60 mph was quite a bit different while driving through a large city versus a rural stretch of highway in the western part of the country.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2046850]I hope this is just your well-known sarcasm at work.
The Canadian law is simply being ignored by the police when it comes to the booking of escorts 18 or older.
Prostitution is illegal in Thailand but it is my understanding that some commercial sex activity occurs there, also.[/QUOTE]I was not being sarcastic. I was not aware prostitution was illegal in Thailand. I don't like to monger where it's illegal. I have not been to Thailand in almost ten years. It did seem to me that there was a hell of a lot of prostitution going on openly in Canada but when one is a non-citizen, one can get in trouble for things that citizens do not, and it can be a lot harder to get out of said trouble.
Having spent many years living in Argentina, I am familiar with laws being passed only to be ignored, such as the seat belt law down there. But, if this Canadian law is recent, I would not be wanting to ignore it out of ignorance of its existence, and have an issue. So, I thank The Cane and Komo from Québec for bringing it to my attention just as I am getting ready to go there again.
Sometimes police ignore laws until they don't.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;2047322]I was not being sarcastic. I was not aware prostitution was illegal in Thailand. I don't like to monger where it's illegal. I have not been to Thailand in almost ten years. It did seem to me that there was a hell of a lot of prostitution going on openly in Canada but when one is a non-citizen, one can get in trouble for things that citizens do not, and it can be a lot harder to get out of said trouble.
Having spent many years living in Argentina, I am familiar with laws being passed only to be ignored, such as the seat belt law down there. But, if this Canadian law is recent, I would not be wanting to ignore it out of ignorance of its existence, and have an issue. So, I thank The Cane and Komo from Qubec for bringing it to my attention just as I am getting ready to go there again.
Sometimes police ignore laws until they don't.[/QUOTE]To each his own of course, but strictly speaking it is not illegal to hire an escort in Canada and pay for her time and companionship, with whatever activities that occur in that time being between those consenting parties. It is only illegal for the customer to solicit and / or directly purchase sex. The police in several provinces have publicly announced that the enforcement priority will continue to be on underaged transactions and where evidence exists that the provider was trafficked. So life has gone on the same as before, with less explicit language in ads and more customers focusing on booking ladies from well known agencies and / or independents who are reviewed on the major Canadian boards like merb and terb. It is now wise to stay away from the street scene and away from the anonymous ads from lower-end web pages.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2047324]To each his own of course, but strictly speaking it is not illegal to hire an escort in Canada and pay for her time and companionship, with whatever activities that occur in that time being between those consenting parties. It is only illegal for the customer to solicit and / or directly purchase sex. The police in several provinces have publicly announced that the enforcement priority will continue to be on underaged transactions and where evidence exists that the provider was trafficked. So life has gone on the same as before, with less explicit language in ads and more customers focusing on booking ladies from well known agencies and / or independents who are reviewed on the major Canadian boards like merb and terb. It is now wise to stay away from the street scene and away from the anonymous ads from lower-end web pages.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the additional clarification.
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Vancouver
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2047487]Thank you for the additional clarification.[/QUOTE]Vancouver is well-known throughout Canada for not enforcing the law. Perhaps you should go there!
[URL]http://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/as-vancouver-fails-to-enforce-prostitution-laws-trudeau-government-needs-to-declare-its-stance-on-legalizing-sex-work[/URL]
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2047558]Vancouver is well-known throughout Canada for not enforcing the law. Perhaps you should go there!
[URL]http://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/as-vancouver-fails-to-enforce-prostitution-laws-trudeau-government-needs-to-declare-its-stance-on-legalizing-sex-work[/URL][/QUOTE]Been there several times. Been to every Canadian province plus the Yukon but this will be my first visit to Montréal. Will RTFF.
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101 East. Asian Brides for Sale
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqh3EZDRLa8&index=43&list=WL[/URL]
South Korean men complaining about how the standards of South Korean women are too high, how their women are too fussy, how they focus too much only on the man's income, his social standing, and not the man himself as a person. South Korean men are having to turn to foreign women in their search for wives due to the scarcity of eligible brides in South Korea. In rural areas, 1 in 3 men have imported foreign wives.
The documentary says that these men usually pay around $10,000 to marriage agencies for arranging a marriage with a foreign wife. If only someone would to explain to these poor guys that they only need to pay just $20 for an ISG membership!
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2051296]South Korean men complaining about how the standards of South Korean women are too high, how their women are too fussy, how they focus too much only on the man's income, his social standing, and not the man himself as a person. South Korean men are having to turn to foreign women in their search for wives due to the scarcity of eligible brides in South Korea. In rural areas, 1 in 3 men have imported foreign wives.[/QUOTE]I do not know a damn thing about Korea but find this really weird with all the stuff I have read about their culture being prejudice and discriminatory. They do not even let foreigners into their brothels. Or is it a case of what's yours is mine and what's mine is mine?
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Saw this bumper sticker and had to laugh:
FEMINISM: Because even rich white women want to feel oppressed.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2051299]I do not know a damn thing about Korea but find this really weird with all the stuff I have read about their culture being prejudice and discriminatory. They do not even let foreigners into their brothels. Or is it a case of what's yours is mine and what's mine is mine?[/QUOTE]You! Don't know Korea! Am shocked! Yeah, many cultures practice the caste system, not just India. Lots of places in Gaylong, Singapore won't let you in if you not their race. They always point you back towards the Thai fishbowl.
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The Yew Ess also practices the caste system, as the recent proposed health care bills clearly show.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2051296][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqh3EZDRLa8&index=43&list=WL[/URL]
South Korean men complaining about how the standards of South Korean women are too high, how their women are too fussy, how they focus too much only on the man's income, his social standing, and not the man himself as a person. South Korean men are having to turn to foreign women in their search for wives due to the scarcity of eligible brides in South Korea. In rural areas, 1 in 3 men have imported foreign wives.
The documentary says that these men usually pay around $10,000 to marriage agencies for arranging a marriage with a foreign wife. If only someone would to explain to these poor guys that they only need to pay just $20 for an ISG membership![/QUOTE]It could be worse. In Japan, 43% of Japanese between 18-34 years-old claim to be virgins and not interested in sex. Japanese young men report early interactions with girls were negative and left them feeling scared of women. Japanese women claimed that they prioritized eating food and sleeping above having sex. There has even been a few reports on ISG where guys reported that their Japanese wives just quit having sex once they popped out a kid or two.
[URL]http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-40511655/japanese-young-people-not-having-sex[/URL]
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Anybody is in Middle east
Hello guys,
Anybody is in middle east please PM Me.
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2056786]It could be worse. In Japan, 43% of Japanese between 18-34 years-old claim to be virgins and not interested in sex. Japanese young men report early interactions with girls were negative and left them feeling scared of women. Japanese women claimed that they prioritized eating food and sleeping above having sex. There has even been a few reports on ISG where guys reported that their Japanese wives just quit having sex once they popped out a kid or two.
[URL]http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-40511655/japanese-young-people-not-having-sex[/URL][/QUOTE]I don't think there's no sex in Japan, though it is a pretty controversial topic. I think they rather keep it hidden, while the mask is taken off in the Western countries.
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2056786]It could be worse. In Japan, 43% of Japanese between 18-34 years-old claim to be virgins and not interested in sex. Japanese young men report early interactions with girls were negative and left them feeling scared of women. Japanese women claimed that they prioritized eating food and sleeping above having sex. There has even been a few reports on ISG where guys reported that their Japanese wives just quit having sex once they popped out a kid or two.
[URL]http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-40511655/japanese-young-people-not-having-sex[/URL][/QUOTE]They know nothing about Japan, I am living in Japan, This link is from English channels that talk shit about a country they don't know. You never learnt not to believe in media.
1 Japanese people are the most open to sex in Asia, Prostitution and brothels are not illegal in Japan unlike other Asian countries. Only vaginal sex is illegal but not anal sex. Talking about sex in Japan is not a taboo unlike other Asian countries. The Japan is one of the biggest porno movie producer in the world.
In Japan, they organized the biggest group sex orgy. ([URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/500_Person_Sex[/URL]).
I am now mongering in Sao Paulo, there are many men from Japan in the sex clubs. In the sex clubs many japanese men fuck 3 different girls in one night, they come back to the club and they go back to the room with another girl. Unlike western men, after one sex with a girl, they want to go home because they are tired.
We can say American and English men are not macho and a bit feminine, they have a big complex about their sexuality, they can't manage their women, they get led by their feminist women. I met many american and English men that have a big complex about their sexuality and complain about their women and their boring sexual life.
P.S: I am not Japanese or Asian. I am just an expatriate.
This media tries to make you believe that even your country is not as boring as other countries so.
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What is wrong with the Youth of today in America?
[URL]http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/parenting/ct-teens-not-drinking-20170919-story.html[/URL]
How much sex is everyone having? (interesting stats).
[URL]https://vitals.lifehacker.com/here-s-how-much-sex-everybody-is-having-1795561168[/URL]
Interesting stats on age differences in relationships:
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships[/URL]
Excerpt: Although the "cougar" theme, in which older women date much younger men, is often portrayed in the media as a widespread and established facet of modern Western culture, at least one academic study has found the concept to be a "myth". A British psychological study published in Evolution and Human Behavior in 2010 concluded that men and women, in general, continued to follow traditional gender roles when searching for mates. The study found that, as supported by other academic studies, most men preferred younger, physically attractive women, while most women, of any age, preferred successful, established men their age or older. The study found very few instances of older women pursuing much younger men and vice versa.
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American Women<Asian Women
I don't know about you guys but I'll take a petite hot Asian girl over a fat aging American girl. Asian women age much more gracefully amd a 30 year old Asian women will look 23 while a 30 year old American Women women will look 40.
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[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2086539]I don't know about you guys but I'll take a petite hot Asian girl over a fat aging American girl. Asian women age much more gracefully amd a 30 year old Asian women will look 23 while a 30 year old American Women women will look 40.[/QUOTE]But you say that as if there are no petite hot American women or no fat aging Asian women. There are also plenty of 30 year old Asian women that look 40 and plenty of 30 year old American women that look 23.
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Cougars
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2086523]
Excerpt: Although the "cougar" theme, in which older women date much younger men, is often portrayed in the media as a widespread and established facet of modern Western culture, at least one academic study has found the concept to be a "myth". A British psychological study published in Evolution and Human Behavior in 2010 concluded that men and women, in general, continued to follow traditional gender roles when searching for mates. The study found that, as supported by other academic studies, most men preferred younger, physically attractive women, while most women, of any age, preferred successful, established men their age or older. The study found very few instances of older women pursuing much younger men and vice versa.[/QUOTE]I've actually witnessed the "cougar" theme in my home city. During the late eighties and early nineties, Chicago had a small migration of young poor Italian men that were hunted down by thirty and forty something divorces in dive bars and discos. I remember these guys talking like little beatches as to how much they could fleece their sugar mamas.
Yeah sure to the evolution thing, but if the dynamics are right, it can happen.
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It is very true that a 40 year old American man would have a much easier time finding a petite hot Asian than he would finding a petite hot American. We're not talking about the universe of all women, we're only talking about the women we are likely to be taking home. If one considers a petite hot Asian to be the equivalent of a petite hot American. Clearly the American women has a lot more opportunities than an Asian woman of equivalent hotness, such as language, earning potential, social acceptance, etc, so obtaining the American woman would be harder even if you did find an American woman of the same hotness. Same with cougars. The cougars are generally women with more earning potential than the younger men, who, due to their age, cannot attract men with higher earning potential than themselves.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2086554]But you say that as if there are no petite hot American women or no fat aging Asian women. There are also plenty of 30 year old Asian women that look 40 and plenty of 30 year old American women that look 23.[/QUOTE].
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2086523]What is wrong with the Youth of today in America?
[URL]http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/parenting/ct-teens-not-drinking-20170919-story.html[/URL]
How much sex is everyone having? (interesting stats).
[URL]https://vitals.lifehacker.com/here-s-how-much-sex-everybody-is-having-1795561168[/URL]
Interesting stats on age differences in relationships:
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships[/URL].[/QUOTE]Well, it is not surprising that the cougar thing is a myth. It does not make sense for a young virile man to ejaculate his sperms into a barren post-menopausal vagina. If young men fucking grannies became a thing, the population would quickly crash. Such relationships would be evolutionary dead ends for young men choosing to go down that path. The post-menopausal woman would benefit from have a healthy young man to care for her. However, the young man is likely to run into all kinds of problems in a relationship with an old woman.
Granny's kids are not going to take kindly to some 20-year-old stud fucking her hard and twisting her into a pretzel. Her sons are going see her young lover as a conman intending to deprive them of their inheritance, as logically there is nothing to keep him in such a one-sided arrangement other than money. Menopause also brings a host of physical and emotional problems. A man in his 20's wants to fuck all the time; this is going to be a big problem when his cougar has hot flashes, vaginal dryness, and headaches. The last thing she will want around her is an energetic hard young cock demanding her attention. Most middle-aged and older American women do not even want to deal with a hard cock of similar age; the debut of Viagra led to many divorces between older couples because the women were upset at having to deal with a hard cock again after they retired in the bed years ago.
The young man will also have to contend with the old woman's emotional baggage. Most cougars have at least a couple divorces under their belts making them bitter, mean and controlling. A young man is not going find life with a cougar much fun, especially when female friends and colleagues in his age group get close to him and trigger the cougar's insecurity and territorial behavior. The cougar may even maul him if she feels particularly threatened by young rivals.
Cougars consider themselves strong independent women. Therefore, in relationships with young men, they insist on having veto power in decision-making. If they are very mean, they will play the age card against their young partner accusing him of being immature and inexperienced. Many behave more like an overbearing mother towards their toy-boys instead of a lover. Even young women shriek, "Grow up!" when annoyed with young men. A cougar's toy-boy can expect to hear it much more.
Most young fellas who screw cougars are looking for an easy one-night stand or exploring their Oedipus complex. These relationships rarely amount to anything more than a hit and run. Recently, a friend was fucking a cougar in her 40's from his workplace. He said it was great for the first month or two; she was nasty in bed and would do anything including bareback blowjob cum-in-mouth with swallow; take it up the ass; and suck balls with rim job. Then she gradually started shifting the dating expenses from 50/50 to him paying for everything. She started throwing temper tantrums when did not call her every day. Then she started asking where the relationship was going, and made it clear she wanted marriage. He drew the line there, changed jobs, and dumped her.
American cougars often expect to be wined and dined with the much younger man picking up the entire bill; all the men they dated in their youth did it, and cougars have a hard time moving away from that even though they earn more than their dates. In their minds pussy, even old pussy, trumps young dick.
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On Point
[URL]https://www.livestrong.com/article/13556224-this-is-what-a-large-age-gap-does-to-your-relationship/?utm_source=aol.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=this-is-what-a-large-age-gap-does-to-your-relationship&utm_campaign=AOL-Wellness[/URL]
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Canadian women are way better than American women.
I wonder how American men live their sexual life. Most American women are disgusting and have no intelligence. Nobody needs an ugly american woman.
I ve never been interested in travelling to the us though it is not far from where I lived. The only times I went to the US was to visit some places. Now I just transit the USA to go to another country to enjoy my sexual life. Canada may be boring but no country is more boring than the USA.
May god bless your american sexual life.
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Cuckolded Husband Supports Cheating Wife
A former Tennessee high school football coach supported his wife in court on Monday as she was sentenced to three years in prison for repeatedly having sex with one of his teen players, reports say.
Kelsey McCarter, 27, pleaded guilty on Monday to six counts of statutory and one count of exploitation of a minor for having sex with a 16-year-old player on her husband, Justin McCarter's, former South-Doyle High School football team in Knoxville, KRON reports.
McCarter initially faced 38 years in prison. She agreed to a three-year sentence at Monday's hearing, where Justin, an assistant coach on the team, stood by her side.
"She made a mistake," McCarter's attorney, Doug Trant, said after the hearing, according to the Knoxville News-Sentinel. "She'll move past it. She's young and, as you saw, her family is here in support of her. Her husband is strongly supportive of her. ".
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/ex-high-school-football-coach-132211370.html[/URL]
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I like your application and implication of the evolutionary psychology. I find it agreeable.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2086618]Well, it is not surprising that the cougar thing is a myth. It does not make sense for a young virile man to ejaculate his sperms into a barren post-menopausal vagina. If young men fucking grannies became a thing, the population would quickly crash. Such relationships would be evolutionary dead ends for young men choosing to go down that path. The post-menopausal woman would benefit from have a healthy young man to care for her. However, the young man is likely to run into all kinds of problems in a relationship with an old woman.
Granny's kids are not going to take kindly to some 20-year-old stud fucking her hard and twisting her into a pretzel. Her sons are going see her young lover as a conman intending to deprive them of their inheritance, as logically there is nothing to keep him in such a one-sided arrangement other than money. Menopause also brings a host of physical and emotional problems..[/QUOTE]
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Komo,
That's why we travel to places like Philippines, Thailand, Dominican Republic, etc. That's why USA is called Sex Prison. Yet America, like Canada, has it's share of eye candy and unparalleled geographic beauty e. G. , Grand Canyon, Yosemite National Park, Lake Tahoe, etc. Are Canadian broads more sexually liberated than American broads? Do the young ones date the old guys? Do Canadian chicks have a propensity for sucking dick like the Latinas?
[QUOTE=Komo753;2087540]Canadian women are way better than American women.
I wonder how American men live their sexual life. Most American women are disgusting and have no intelligence. Nobody needs an ugly american woman.
I ve never been interested in travelling to the us though it is not far from where I lived. The only times I went to the US was to visit some places. Now I just transit the USA to go to another country to enjoy my sexual life. Canada may be boring but no country is more boring than the USA.
May god bless your american sexual life.[/QUOTE]
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American Culture
I had my share of Latina, Caucasian, and Asian beauties. As an American and fellow monger I can say I do not want anything to do with American women. They are high maintenance with almost no return compared to the colossal amount of effort you need to put into getting laid.
The Turd Flinging Monkey's (on YouTube) perspective about sexual utility and resources is related to American Sexuality. You see American women are all about relationships. They are more attracted to a man that has a lot of resources, such as a good stable job or money or even good genes. When a man stops being an asset to the women or their value is reduced then American women will abadon their man to look for a better source of resources. On the flip side, women who loose their sexual utility tend to settle for what they can get.
[QUOTE=Komo753;2087540]Canadian women are way better than American women.
I wonder how American men live their sexual life. Most American women are disgusting and have no intelligence. Nobody needs an ugly american woman.
I ve never been interested in travelling to the us though it is not far from where I lived. The only times I went to the US was to visit some places. Now I just transit the USA to go to another country to enjoy my sexual life. Canada may be boring but no country is more boring than the USA.
This applies because American women do not want to raise bastards on their own. Ever hear the phrase, "why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free." American women are wise to this and will not have sex with a random stranger. They know the value of their sex and will hold out until the time is right. Man, even the fat slobs are like that.
IF you want an American girl you most plant the seed of a relationship (even if it clearly known you want yo be fuck buddies) and you must cultivate. It's a lot of hard work and rarely seems worth it. But just remember you can throw your seed into the wind and see where things go. By this I mean talk to many chicks..[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=LongerMonger;2089613]
The Turd Flinging Monkey's (on YouTube) perspective about sexual utility and resources is related to American Sexuality. You see American women are all about relationships. They are more attracted to a man that has a lot of resources, such as a good stable job or money or even good genes. When a man stops being an asset to the women or their value is reduced then American women will abadon their man to look for a better source of resources. On the flip side, women who loose their sexual utility tend to settle for what they can get.[/QUOTE]What you wrote applies to women all over the world.
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Evolution
[QUOTE=LongerMonger;2089613]You see American women are all about relationships. They are more attracted to a man that has a lot of resources, such as a good stable job or money or even good genes. When a man stops being an asset to the women or their value is reduced then American women will abadon their man to look for a better source of resources. On the flip side, women who loose their sexual utility tend to settle for what they can get.[/QUOTE]All women are like that. That is one of the reasons why human species, unlike others, did not extinguish in millions of years. Also men want to have sex only with young women, not old ones. That is the reason as well.
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Harvey Weinstein
Any thoughts on the Harvey Weinstein scandal?
Willing participants, encouraged by the flood of reports, are joining in the chorus, sharing their stories.
Meanwhile, bystanders, realizing the open secret is now officially out, are expressing their shock and dismay, horrified by the allegations.
First the former. It seems to me that the second wave of "abused" and "sexually harassed" women are now just describing a bad date, with a guy who has was fat, old, ugly, lacked confidence, and had no game.
For example, "Emily Nestor (2014)- Nestor, an assistant at Weinstein Co, was also cited in the New York Times article, and said she was warned off the bat that she was Weinstein's "type. " Weinstein asked her to get drinks and offered to relocate her to the London office so she could be his girlfriend. Instead, the two got coffee, which Nestor said was "the most excruciating and uncomfortable hour of my life. " She said she was left feeling embarrassed and shaken. " What a horrible experience!
[URL]http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/harvey-weinsteins-accusers-angelina-jolie-gwyneth-paltrow-1202584754/[/URL]
Actress Katherine Kendall went on a movie date with him. Afterwards, he persuaded her to go up to his apartment, where they talked for over an hour. She felt that he was interested in her because of her intellect! He then made his move, changed into a robe and came back, asking for a "massage". Up to this point, it could be considered a typical date. After she refuses, he pushed the ante and came back naked. After some more begging by the total loser, she leaves him, but agrees that he should come with her. Soon enough he ditches him by going into a bar.
[URL]http://edition.cnn.com/videos/entertainment/2017/10/11/actress-katherine-kendall-harvey-weinstein-interview.cnn[/URL]
"Emma de Caunes. - The French actress told The New Yorker that in 2010, she went to his hotel room under the impression that they would discuss a potential movie role. He took shower and came out naked. She claims Weinstein demanded that she get on the bed. She declined and left".
[URL]http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/17-accusers-share-stories-harvey-weinsteins-alleged-advances/story?id=50398447[/URL]
Many others follow the same protocol. Get hopeful starlets into your apartment or hotel room to "discuss a movie". If he was already waiting there, he would greet them wearing nothing but a robe. If he came up with her, after some conversation, he could excuse himself and come back wearing only a robe. These girls are not stupid. At that point, the intent was clear, but apparently, no woman had the common sense to leave. He could then misread the signals, or perhaps not. If I have a hot young woman in my hotel room, and I am only wearing a robe, and she is still here, what is the next move? In any case, he would then go for the kiss, or ask for a massage. Once again, the women then weighed the pros and cons of whoring themselves.
For example, Asia Argento, an Italian bird, was invited to what she thought was a party, but only Weinstein and a female producer were there. The other woman soon left. He then did his classic robe and massage move. She claims that she "reluctantly" agreed to give Weinstein a massage, after which he pulled her skirt up and performed oral sex. She supposedly "feigned" enjoyment, had a massive whole body orgasm, and squirted all over his face, excited by a big fat man wanting to eat her. Her entire body still shakes when she tells the story. In any case, as she left, she told Weinstein, "I am not a working girl," and that he began laughing. He said he'd put the phrase on a T-shirt. Afterwards. They had a relationship for five years. In retrospect, she claims that she was just whoring herself. One time, was when her movie was coming out, so she felt obliged, and then when she was a single mother and he was paying for her nanny, so she felt obliged.
[URL]https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/from-aggressive-overtures-to-sexual-assault-harvey-weinsteins-accusers-tell-their-stories[/URL]
Anyway, all stories are essentially the same. Somehow manage to bring a girl up to your hotel room, where it was clearly not a business meeting, and then make your move. Other than the fact that most men cannot offer international fame and fortune, Is not that what all men do? Most men manage to bring the girl up with some pretense: coffee, one last drink, check out my stamp collection, listen to some music, a sandwich, watch a movie, talk, etc. Once there, men try some conversation. By the way, evidently, Weinstein was a master of the "push and pull" technique (E. G. , "you would be wonderful in this new movie. If you lost a lot of weight".) After some conversation, most men then make a move. This guy had only one pathetic move, but what the hell. At any point, the woman can choose to leave. Of course, the rest of men can only offer friendship, sex, companionship, support, stability, free music or language lessons, marriage, etc, but not international fame and fortune. Some women walk out, and some chose to stay.
We also have to remember the many other starlets who openly slept their way to the top, some of whom are now accusing the guy of sexual harassment. Gwyneth comes to mind. Apparently, Bradley broke up with her because he caught her on her knees in front of Weinstein. Blake has also been reported to used her charms very effectively, quickly raising to the top, and even wearing Harvey's wife's designs at red carpet events. Just google "celebrities who slept their way tot he top".
About the former friends who are now "outraged" by his behavior. They all knew! It is funny that the ever politically correct Ben Affleck came out to express his outrage, but then clips came out of him fondling the breast of some bimbo. One of the clips goes on for several minutes, and the girl is just seen giggling uncomfortably. Like trump said, " when you are a celebrity, they let you get away with anything, grab them by the pussy".
[URL]https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4661960/hilarie-burton-accuses-ben-affleck-groping-her-tv-show/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMq6xDHBKwQ[/URL]
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I see no problem in manipulating the young and naive in hollywood culture. I'd do the same in his shoes.
Hang him if he forced himself.
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[QUOTE=Stevie69;2093646]Any thoughts on the Harvey Weinstein scandal?
[/QUOTE]The one thing it has taught me is that there is a crusade against Western men who have ambitious desires. Men work their asses of and kill themselves to obtain the power and status Harvey acquired over many decades. All so that he can bang hot Hollywood actresses. I mean, what the fuck else is the point of going into the business otherwise?
Harvey, Ben Affleck, Bill Cosby, Derrick Rose, Nelly (the rapper; google his recent false r@p3 charge), David Copperfield, Trump, Kobe, etc. Say what you want about them, but what is glaringly obvious is that all it takes is for one jaded c u n t to bring your entire empire crumbling down. Sponsors pull endorsements, business partners pull investment money for fear of being associated with a pariah. Why strive to be a top alpha dog so that you have the money to surround yourself with hot bishes, only to be taken out at the knees and have your entire brand destroyed by a chorus of over-the-hill thunder c u n t s many moons later?
I am a person who has always strived to be ultra-fucking rich and to have notoriety, but after these past few days I am now convinced that for someone living in sex prison (USA), it is just best to curb your ambition, keep your head down, stack your money and keep stashing it away until you have amassed enough to escape to paradise (anywhere BUT Western, feminized countries).
Completely aware of the fact that you can have your regular 9 to 5 day job career ruined by false allegations of sexual harassment and such, but lucky for me I work with mostly fat, over-the-hill women who keep my dick limp most of the day. I know not to shit where I eat. Any fall from grace at this level is easy to recover from. You can always move to another city or state and get another job. But poor Harvey has fallen from Mt. Olympus! There's no coming back from that shit.
Thoughts?
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Looking to leave
I have produced one movie and I'm working on a TV show. I know I'll never get as big as Harvey, but even at the level I'm at you should see the gleam in some of these women eyes when they find out what I do. When I'm looking at them with their phony smiles and stupid questions I'm thinking to myself I can't wait to get back to Colombia or the DR and away from these skanks who only want to use me to advance their careers. After reading all the phony outrage this week, I have started looking at condos in Cartagena and Santo Domingo. Hopefully a deal I'm working on will workout and I can bolt sex prison USA.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;2093760]The one thing it has taught me is that there is a crusade against Western men who have ambitious desires. Men work their asses of and kill themselves to obtain the power and status Harvey acquired over many decades. All so that he can bang hot Hollywood actresses. I mean, what the fuck else is the point of going into the business otherwise?
Harvey, Ben Affleck, Bill Cosby, Derrick Rose, Nelly (the rapper; google his recent false r@p3 charge), David Copperfield, Trump, Kobe, etc. Say what you want about them, but what is glaringly obvious is that all it takes is for one jaded c u n t to bring your entire empire crumbling down. Sponsors pull endorsements, business partners pull investment money for fear of being associated with a pariah. Why strive to be a top alpha dog so that you have the money to surround yourself with hot bishes, only to be taken out at the knees and have your entire brand destroyed by a chorus of over-the-hill thunder c u n t s many moons later?
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;2093760]The one thing it has taught me is that there is a crusade against Western men who have ambitious desires. Men work their asses of and kill themselves to obtain the power and status Harvey acquired over many decades. All so that he can bang hot Hollywood actresses. I mean, what the fuck else is the point of going into the business otherwise?[/QUOTE]Let's say you worked at Apple. Everybody knows the CEO at the company is openly gay. One day you had a work function at a hotel and he called you to his suite and said if you want to get anywhere in this business you need to do some unspeakable things with me. You kept protesting telling him you are not even gay and he says do not make me look stupid in this hotel and you do not want to ruin your friendship with me. I mean he worked his ass off to get enough power and status to bang hot tech guys, right?
There is a difference between picking up random people at a bar because you have power and status, and doing what he was doing by telling people if they did not do what he wanted sexually then they needed to look for a new career. Actresses do not arrive in Hollywood hot; Hollywood makes them hot. Otherwise they are just your next door neighbor. Who was looking at Stefani Germanotta twice before she was Lady Gaga?
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Savepros321,
The word is "consent". Not see you and t sent. If you engage in willing consent then their isn't any problems.
Whether you work hard all your life or not without consent from a willing partner it is rightfully called are a p e. It doesn't matter what country it is in.
Many people accumulate wealth and pay to play and never suffer any negative consequences. This guy Harvey deserves jail in my opinion. Trump committed battery if he did what he said he did.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2093823]
Actresses do not arrive in Hollywood hot; Hollywood makes them hot. Otherwise they are just your next door neighbor. Who was looking at [b]Stefani Germanotta twice before she was Lady Gaga[/b]?[/QUOTE]Bro, you couldn't have picked a worse example. Try:
-Nathalie Emmanuel
-Gal Gadot
-Angela Sarafyan
(see photos attached)
Say what you want, but those chicks have been hot all of their lives. No one would need Hollywood to tell us that they are hot.
As for the Apple reference, Terry Crews just spoke on something similar that happened to him:
[url]http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/11/entertainment/terry-crews-sexual-harassment/index.html[/url]
I get what you are getting at, but Hollywood is not Apple: It is essentially a "Boys Club" put together by a well connected group of men to ensure that they always have access to gorgeous women. They are not an corporation beholden by HR EOC rules and regs. Women know what the deal is when they choose to pursue this business. No one is forcing them into it. These guys made their own rules; if you want to win as a starlet then you have to play by their game. Or you can freely "take a walk" and go work for Apple. There are no shortage of of hot young women tripping over themselves to get put on as even an extra in the next Marvel Universe movie.
I am not advocating r@p3 at all here. What I am saying is that it is silly for a hot piece of ass to just think a powerful movie mogul like Harvey, who could change your life overnight by having you catapulted to fame and fortune, would just give you a big starring role in an upcoming movie blockbuster without wanting something in return because you are a "good person".
If you think that is wrong, then you know nothing about how the entertainment industry works. These women know full well what they are getting into and what it takes to make it in the industry. Before Instagram and Myspace, glamour model photographers where usually the first stop on the road to the gate keepers of the industry.
Do you think those booty models in King, Smooth, and XXL magazine didn't know they were going to have to fuck the photographer (and a few others) to get put on? Don't forget that Jay Z fucked Rhianna (when he did a short stint as President of Def Jam Records) long before you knew who she was. And guaranteed you probably would have never heard of her if she wasn't fully aware of how the game is played, and she would still be in that hut back in Barbados.
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[QUOTE=Drf1987;2093801]I have produced one movie and I'm working on a TV show. I know I'll never get as big as Harvey, but even at the level I'm at you should see the gleam in some of these women eyes when they find out what I do. When I'm looking at them with their phony smiles and stupid questions I'm thinking to myself I can't wait to get back to Colombia or the DR and away from these skanks who only want to use me to advance their careers. After reading all the phony outrage this week, I have started looking at condos in Cartagena and Santo Domingo. Hopefully a deal I'm working on will workout and I can bolt sex prison USA.[/QUOTE]I would try to break into the Latin American TV industry if I were you (although I know it's probably as tight of a knit industry as Hollywood or the Television industry in the US). There you are sure not to be crucified for being attracted to hot women.
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Be careful with those petite hot Japanese women!
[QUOTE=CrazyJimWood;2086583]It is very true that a 40 year old American man would have a much easier time finding a petite hot Asian than he would finding a petite hot American. We're not talking about the universe of all women, we're only talking about the women we are likely to be taking home. If one considers a petite hot Asian to be the equivalent of a petite hot American. Clearly the American women has a lot more opportunities than an Asian woman of equivalent hotness, such as language, earning potential, social acceptance, etc, so obtaining the American woman would be harder even if you did find an American woman of the same hotness. Same with cougars. The cougars are generally women with more earning potential than the younger men, who, due to their age, cannot attract men with higher earning potential than themselves..[/QUOTE]A fella who married a Japanese woman recounted his ordeal saying, "I first began to have doubts about the future of our marriage after just returning from our honeymoon when my wife farted right in front of me. Because she had irritable bowel syndrome, it was really smelly. Our marriage crumbled apart like flakes of paint falling from a wall. She would steal food from my plate and take anything she wanted. And she was really demanding in bed if I couldn't meet her demands, she would pinch my ears, hit me in the ribs, or kick me down there."
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Seriously man. What the fuck is really going on and what are they trying to do to people? How the hell do you have a transsexual as the centerfold in Playboy? Hefner's body ain't even cold yet. Why do they insist on trying to get men to like other men?
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Girly Boy Agenda
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2096474]Seriously man. What the fuck is really going on and what are they trying to do to people? How the hell do you have a transsexual as the centerfold in Playboy? Hefner's body ain't even cold yet. Why do they insist on trying to get men to like other men?[/QUOTE]The Gay Revolution has been happening for quite a while. You are just noticing it because now it is more blatant. The Gay Agenda aims to make all American men gender ambiguous. It dovetails with the radical feminist agenda to obliterate traditional male identity and gender roles. In their utopia, all men will undergo gender reassignment surgery at birth and it will become as routine as male circumcision (male genital mutilation). On 5 October, 2012, a Daily Mail article reported:
The number of gay and bisexual characters on scripted broadcast network TV is at its highest-ever level in the season ahead, according to the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation. The total on cable television is also going up.
The 17th-annual 'Where We Are on TV' report released on Friday by GLAAD found that 4.4 per cent of actors appearing regularly on prime-time network drama and comedy series during the 2012-13 season will portray lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender characters. This is up from 2.9 per cent in 2011, which saw a dip in what had been a growing annual trend.
The study reviewed 97 scripted TV programs scheduled to air in the upcoming season on the broadcast networks, counting a total of 701 series regular characters. The study found that 31 of them are LGBT characters.
[URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2213371/More-gay-characters-featured-TV-shows-study-finds.html[/URL]
When Hefner kicked the bucket, the media took care to portray him as a relic of a bygone era and claimed that his publication "did a lot of harm to women". The tranny centerfold was one final "fuck you" to Hefner and his fans. The shock experienced by heterosexual men upon discovering a centerfold with a shrimp crank just when they were getting ready to rub one out sends a clear message that the gays are everywhere.
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How come I never have seatmates like this?
[URL]http://www.denverpost.com/2017/11/02/delta-air-lines-strangers-caught-in-sex-act/[/URL]
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Offer a free meal.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2101298]How come I never have seatmates like this?
[URL]http://www.denverpost.com/2017/11/02/delta-air-lines-strangers-caught-in-sex-act/[/URL][/QUOTE]The next time a famished 48-year-old Colorado cougar sits next to you on a flight, just tell her you packed a cock-meat sandwich with extra mayo and meatballs.
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The gay agenda.
Actually, the gay agenda is simple: be able to get a job, provide for your family, live free of violence, maintain your privacy, enjoy your life. The gay agenda is not the problem.
The problem is a combination of radical feminism, cultural Marxism, extreme multiculturalism, and revisionist history, which are all joining forces to destroy western civilization.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2096555]The Gay Revolution has been happening for quite a while. You are just noticing it because now it is more blatant. The Gay Agenda aims to make all American men gender ambiguous. It dovetails with the radical feminist agenda to obliterate traditional male identity and gender roles. In their utopia, all men will undergo gender reassignment surgery at birth and it will become as routine as male circumcision (male genital mutilation). On 5 October, 2012, a Daily Mail article reported:
The number of gay and bisexual characters on scripted broadcast network TV is at its highest-ever level in the season ahead, according to the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation. The total on cable television is also going up..[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2096474]Seriously man. What the fuck is really going on and what are they trying to do to people? How the hell do you have a transsexual as the centerfold in Playboy? Hefner's body ain't even cold yet. Why do they insist on trying to get men to like other men?[/QUOTE]The best thing to do is vote with your dollars (don't spend money on them). I've never bought a Playboy mag or even tried to sneak a peak in one as a youngster. My older buddies who could buy "dirty mags" would always introduce me to ones most people had never heard of, which were often raunchier than that softcore shit from Hef.
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Absolutely!
[QUOTE=SavePros321;2094079]Bro, you couldn't have picked a worse example. Try:
-Nathalie Emmanuel
-Gal Gadot
-Angela Sarafyan
(see photos attached)
Say what you want, but those chicks have been hot all of their lives. No one would need Hollywood to tell us that they are hot.
As for the Apple reference, Terry Crews just spoke on something similar that happened to him:
[url]http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/11/entertainment/terry-crews-sexual-harassment/index.html[/url]
I get what you are getting at, but Hollywood is not Apple: It is essentially a "Boys Club" put together by a well connected group of men to ensure that they always have access to gorgeous women. They are not an corporation beholden by HR EOC rules and regs. Women know what the deal is when they choose to pursue this business. No one is forcing them into it. These guys made their own rules; if you want to win as a starlet then you have to play by their game. Or you can freely "take a walk" and go work for Apple. There are no shortage of of hot young women tripping over themselves to get put on as even an extra in the next Marvel Universe movie.
I am not advocating r@p3 at all here. What I am saying is that it is silly for a hot piece of ass to just think a powerful movie mogul like Harvey, who could change your life overnight by having you catapulted to fame and fortune, would just give you a big starring role in an upcoming movie blockbuster without wanting something in return because you are a "good person".
If you think that is wrong, then you know nothing about how the entertainment industry works. These women know full well what they are getting into and what it takes to make it in the industry. Before Instagram and Myspace, glamour model photographers where usually the first stop on the road to the gate keepers of the industry.
Do you think those booty models in King, Smooth, and XXL magazine didn't know they were going to have to fuck the photographer (and a few others) to get put on? Don't forget that Jay Z fucked Rhianna (when he did a short stint as President of Def Jam Records) long before you knew who she was. And guaranteed you probably would have never heard of her if she wasn't fully aware of how the game is played, and she would still be in that hut back in Barbados.[/QUOTE]I used to work in the industry and work even more closely on a magazine much like Maxim years back. Did a role call for 7 new models and got 1500 in one week. While at auditions, girls knew I was the decision maker and would walk over to me and asked to be oiled down for the test photos. Then invite me to parties that turns out to be a few of their friends and then walk around topless around me. Yeah, it was like the HBO Entourage.
And to add another singer (wont mention name)whom was sucking all the guys balls in the recording studio at Murder Inc. trying to get on the label. And that's not hear say.
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When the coach is away, the wife will play!
Sexual harassment hysteria grips America and decades-old accusations fly against rich and powerful men. Meanwhile, female teachers continue succumb to their urges to fuck cute boys. Still, there is no national outrage, as all of the anger is directed towards men like 93-year-old former president Bush Sr. Who allegedly squeezed women's fat asses during photo ops.
A married 22-year-old teacher was busted for fucking one of her students while her husband was busy at work coaching at the school. She urged her student to hurry on over for a repeat fuck session before her husband came home. The lecherous minx left the front door open as she waited in horny anticipation of her toy boy's arrival. Instead, she got a surprise in true Chris Hansen fashion. [URL]https://nypost.com/2017/11/16/cops-bust-wife-of-high-school-football-coach-waiting-for-sex-romp-with-teen/[/URL].
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Et Tu, Uncle Rush?
Anyone else enjoying all of this? Aren't you glad you found out about mongering sooner than later?
[B]Russell Simmons and Brett Ratner face new allegations of sexual misconduct[/B]
Eri Claussen Khalighi was a 17-year-old fashion model from a farm town in Nebraska when she met Brett Ratner and Russell Simmons at a casting call.
Ratner was an up-and-coming music video director and a protege of Simmons, the Def Jam Recordings mogul. They took Khalighi to dinner one night in 1991 at Mr. Chow in New York, and then back to Simmons' apartment to show her a music video they'the been working on.
Quickly, Simmons began making aggressive sexual advances, yanking off her clothes, Khalighi said.
"I looked over at Brett and said 'help me' and I'll never forget the look on his face," she recalled. "In that moment, the realization fell on me that they were in it together. ".
Khalighi said that Simmons, who was then about twice her age, tried to force her to have intercourse. "I fought it wildly," she said. He eventually relented and coerced her to perform oral sex, she alleged. "I guess I just acquiesced. ".
Ratner, meanwhile, "just sat there and watched," she said.
Feeling "disgusting," Khalighi said she went to take a shower. Minutes later, she alleged, Simmons walked up behind her in the shower and briefly penetrated her without her consent. She said she jerked away, then he left. "It hurt so much. ".
In a statement, Simmons, 60, strongly disputed her account. "Everything that occurred between Keri and me occurred with her full consent and participation," he said. Much of the two days and one night he spent with her, he said, was with other people, or in public. Ratner had "no recollection" of Khalighi asking him for help and denied witnessing her "protest," his attorney Martin Singer said.
Ratner has also disputed the accounts of four other women who accused him of sexual misconduct in this story and a previous report by The Times that included the claims of six others, among them actresses Olivia Munn and Natasha Henstridge.
Since that Nov. 1 report, which detailed allegations of harassment, groping and forced oral sex, additional women contacted The Times about Ratner, who has directed, produced or financed successful films including "Rush Hour," "The Revenant" and "Horrible Bosses. ".
Full article: [URL]http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-brett-ratner-russell-simmons-20171119-htmlstory.html[/URL].
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;2107739]Anyone else enjoying all of this? Aren't you glad you found out about mongering sooner than later?[/QUOTE]They're all just jumping on the bandwagon! Damn this is just "piling on"! Get it while the getting' is good ladies! Now what's a tute going to say? He paid me 100 euros to fuck me in the ass? Yes and? LOL!
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Man this shit can go on forever. How many times has any guy just asked a woman if she wanted to fuck and she said yes. Next to fucking never.
For the most part they have to be persuaded out of the drawers. Whether that is by money, begging, kissing on their neck whatever. A rule of thumb for women is that if you are not willing to fuck a guy then do not be in a private place with him. There is a line between forcing someone and coaxing them. It seems like that line is becoming blurred.
The situation that SP posted said nothing about the chick being held against her will. Why didn't she just leave?
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Another!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2107765]A rule of thumb for women is that if you are not willing to fuck a guy then do not be in a private place with him.[/QUOTE]That's what I'm saying! Now here's another one:
[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/eight-women-say-charlie-rose-sexually-harassed-them--with-nudity-groping-and-lewd-calls/2017/11/20/9b168de8-caec-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html?utm_term=.b6fc8a9c4bcd[/URL]
The question I have is why were these women at his private residence working to where he could walk out of the shower naked? It gets back to something I said in another post. Too many times we read "I was in his room and". How about you stay out of private rooms and residences then! I'm not totally excusing what some guys do, but women put themselves in situations where they damn well know what's going on. They're using tits and ass as "lures" to try to get a job, contract, etc. And then when the guy takes the bait and goes maybe further than she wanted, "he sexually harassed me" claims surface. That's bullshit!
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Sexual Harassment War of 2017: American men in full retreat
[QUOTE=TheCane;2107745]They're all just jumping on the bandwagon! Damn this is just "piling on"! Get it while the getting' is good ladies! Now what's a tute going to say? He paid me 100 euros to fuck me in the ass? Yes and? LOL![/QUOTE]Well, Charlie Rose just had his ass nailed for sexual harassment by former female staff. The Washington Post article written by female reporters and contributors really took the hatchet to Charlie. The women described him as a "sexual predator" with a "crusty paw. " Here are some sensational excerpts from the article:
The now-defunct Radar magazine in 2007 called him a "toxic bachelor" and repeated an unnamed woman's claim that Rose had "palmed her buttock like a honeydew. " His then-attorney, David Boies, who has recently drawn criticism for his representation of Harvey Weinstein, demanded a retraction. The magazine refused.
"I was leaving because I was getting away," she said. "I would never want to live someplace where he had keys. ".
Since then, Bravo has worked as a corporate speech writer and now lives in Europe with her husband and their young son.
In retrospect, Bravo said she feels shame and embarrassment about her warm correspondence with Rose.
"I read old emails, and I sound so sycophantic, it makes me sick," she said. "But it was what he wanted, it made my work easier, and to an extent, it was the same game most staff members played. Male staffers did it, too. They just weren't feeling as pathetic about it."
Looking back, she is struck by how calculated Rose's approach seemed.
"he most definitely said, on numerous occasions, 'I've never forced you to do something you didn't want to do,' " she said. "he would say this forcefully and wait for my confirmation after he said this. I remember once wondering if I was being recorded."
The woman titled the story, "The Hunt."
The double entendre, she said, was intentional.
"I was hunting for a job," she told The Post, "and he was hunting for me."
[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/eight-women-say-charlie-rose-sexually-harassed-them--with-nudity-groping-and-lewd-calls/2017/11/20/9b168de8-caec-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html?utm_term=.00e535b91e01[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2107765]Man this shit can go on forever. How many times has any guy just asked a woman if she wanted to fuck and she said yes. Next to fucking never.
For the most part they have to be persuaded out of the drawers. Whether that is by money, begging, kissing on their neck whatever. A rule of thumb for women is that if you are not willing to fuck a guy then do not be in a private place with him. There is a line between forcing someone and coaxing them. It seems like that line is becoming blurred.
The situation that SP posted said nothing about the chick being held against her will. Why didn't she just leave?[/QUOTE]Well, I think the takeaway from the current sexual harassment hysteria is that men should not talk to female coworkers about anything other than work or meet with them outside the formal workplace. That means no leaving the workplace to have lunch with female coworkers or giving them rides in personal vehicles to go pick their car up from the auto shop. Perhaps, men need to hire other heterosexual men for jobs that require working and traveling together outside of the office to avoid putting women in situations that make them uncomfortable.
It is clear that under the emerging sexual harassment / misconduct rules that allegations are not limited to the workplace. In the past, written affirmative consent was the solution allegations of sexual misconduct in social setting such as on dates. However, women can now claim that they said yes when they wanted to say no because they felt pressure or fear of reprisal because the man is powerful, rich, influential or famous. Maybe, the solution to that is for men to date strictly within their own socioeconomic class or higher. Women really liked that detailed affirmative consent form that Christian Grey asked Anastasia to sign before beginning to date her.
So, men should require women to have such a consent form reviewed by their own attorney, then witnessed signed and notarized in triplicate after a cooling off period. These documents should state detailed conditions for rescinding consent, including a written notice of intent to withdraw consent with a reasonable period specified for the man to sign an acknowledgement that he was served such a notice. The relationship contract should have "hold harmless" and binding arbitration clauses that require the woman to address any complaints arising from contact with the man within a specific period following the termination of the relationship.
I think this could open up new opportunities for gender relations attorneys and sexual harassment / misconduct allegation indemnity insurance agents. Women are disrupting gender relations between wealthy men in positions of power and not so wealthy women who may not have had power decades ago. Disruption destroys people and institutions but it also creates opportunities for those thinking outside the box. Only time can tell if the next corporate unicorn arises from the ongoing catastrophe.
Where are the female sexual harassers in the current maelstrom? There have been a handful of male victims coming forward with allegations against gay / bisexual men like Spacey and Weinstein. However, as a young man, I had female bosses who expressed undue interest in the romantic lives of male staff members. These women would ask detailed questions about the women whom the men were dating, what they did on weekends, what they did for fun, and living arrangements. Fellas expressed their discomfort with the inappropriate questions about their personal relationships and the innuendo to each other. However, none of the fellas dared making a complaint as they considered making a sexual harassment complaint against a woman career suicide. They were convinced that no one would believe that a woman was saying and doing those things.
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2107934]Where are the female sexual harassers in the current maelstrom? There have been a handful of male victims coming forward with allegations against gay / bisexual men like Spacey and Weinstein. However, as a young man, I had female bosses who expressed undue interest in the romantic lives of male staff members. These women would ask detailed questions about the women whom the men were dating, what they did on weekends, what they did for fun, and living arrangements. Fellas expressed their discomfort with the inappropriate questions about their personal relationships and the innuendo to each other. However, none of the fellas dared making a complaint as they considered making a sexual harassment complaint against a woman career suicide. They were convinced that no one would believe that a woman was saying and doing those things.[/QUOTE]The worst sexual harassment case that I have documented, detailed, personal knowledge of involved a woman harassing a man. If a man had done what she did, he would have been declared a dangerous "stalker" and fired.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2108106]The worst sexual harassment case that I have documented, detailed, personal knowledge of involved a woman harassing a man. If a man had done what she did, he would have been declared a dangerous "stalker" and fired.[/QUOTE]It's a dangerous time to be a heterosexual male in the West. Allegations about allegations can tank your career. How do you survive that?
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;2107934]
Maybe, the solution to that is for men to date strictly within their own socioeconomic class or higher. Women really liked that detailed affirmative consent form that Christian Grey asked Anastasia to sign before beginning to date her.
[/QUOTE]
Won't change a thing if a vindictive woman wants to ruin you. Plus you negate that by stating this:
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;2107934]
In the past, written affirmative consent was the solution allegations of sexual misconduct in social setting such as on dates. However, women can now claim that they said yes when they wanted to say no because they felt pressure or fear of reprisal because the man is powerful, rich, influential or famous.
[/QUOTE]
So it really doesn't matter that she signed a consent form when later she can claim she was under pressure to sign it. The same way all of the Weinstein chicks who accepted payoffs in exchange for signing an NDA are now saying "fuck that NDA" and are spilling the beans, lol.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;2108213]It's a dangerous time to be a heterosexual male in the West. Allegations about allegations can tank your career. How do you survive that?[/QUOTE]Yet and still, for the woman that may have falsely accused you (such as in the Duke lacrosse team case) no punishment.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;2108213]It's a dangerous time to be a heterosexual male in the West. Allegations about allegations can tank your career. How do you survive that?
Won't change a thing if a vindictive woman wants to ruin you. Plus you negate that by stating this:
So it really doesn't matter that she signed a consent form when later she can claim she was under pressure to sign it. The same way all of the Weinstein chicks who accepted payoffs in exchange for signing an NDA are now saying "fuck that NDA" and are spilling the beans, lol.[/QUOTE]This is pathetic. A dick guillotine for the modern era.
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And then there is shit like this:
[URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/voices/my-husband-and-i-no-longer-have-sex%e2%80%94but-our-bond-is-stronger-than-ever-heres-why/ar-BBF8goW?li=BBnbcA0[/URL]
If your woman won't have sex with you, the best solution in the short term is to lie next to her, beat off, and wipe it all over her.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;2108568]And then there is shit like this:
[URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/voices/my-husband-and-i-no-longer-have-sex%e2%80%94but-our-bond-is-stronger-than-ever-heres-why/ar-BBF8goW?li=BBnbcA0[/URL]
If your woman won't have sex with you, the best solution in the short term is to lie next to her, beat off, and wipe it all over her.[/QUOTE]She's not telling you her husband is a homo. I've seen it in real life along with the false legitimization.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;2108568]And then there is shit like this:
[URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/voices/my-husband-and-i-no-longer-have-sex%e2%80%94but-our-bond-is-stronger-than-ever-heres-why/ar-BBF8goW?li=BBnbcA0[/URL]
If your woman won't have sex with you, the best solution in the short term is to lie next to her, beat off, and wipe it all over her.[/QUOTE]Another option is to "Superman dat Ho". A term made famous by HipHop artist Soulja Boy:
[B]Superman Dat Ho-e[/B]
When you ejaculate on a girl's back then put a blanket on her so when she stands up the blanket sticks therefore making her look like she has a cape.
[I]Source[/I]: Urban Dictionary
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Dead below the waist.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2108568]And then there is shit like this:
[URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/voices/my-husband-and-i-no-longer-have-sex%e2%80%94but-our-bond-is-stronger-than-ever-heres-why/ar-BBF8goW?li=BBnbcA0[/URL]
If your woman won't have sex with you, the best solution in the short term is to lie next to her, beat off, and wipe it all over her.[/QUOTE]It is amusing that she admitted her interest in sex disappeared precisely after her husband bought her a house and married her. After that, there was no reason to have sex to keep him around anymore. She tried hard to convince us that a childless sexless marriage is the best thing that can ever happen to a man. Something that can only be true in a same-sex marriage. For someone who does not think that sex is important in marriage, she is very worried about her husband fucking someone else. If she is genuinely happy in a sexless marriage, she should be relieved to discover that her husband is fucking younger women that are more attractive. However, she gave the impression that she would become vindictive, if she discovered her husband outsourced the sex to other women or even girly boys.
She admits that she feels insecure and wonders if she became physically repulsive to her husband, as he has not pressed the issue of not wanting to have sex. It looks like she is worried that her ability to control her husband with sexual deprivation is waning. If her husband were to admit that the idea of fucking her disgusts him, she might not take it too well. I noticed that the picture she used for her article is a stock image and not an actual photo of her and her mysteriously asexual husband. She is most likely much heavier than she was 12 years ago when her husband met her, and she was sucking and fucking him any and everywhere to convince him to buy that house and marry her.
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No sex after marriage.
Dear Seniors,
In first place, why it is so that females are not interested in sex after marriage and start questioning about the fidelity of their husband.
Everywhere it is the same reduced or no sex after the marriage.
Naturally then the person turns towards mongering.
Any science behind no or reduced sex after marriage and the options left for the husband in such scenario other than getting separated from wife.
Separation from wifey would result in loss of substantial revenues for the husband and there is no guaranteed sex after remarriage except when he chooses to remain single and pursues mongering.
If he has kids then substantial amount of money he needs to keep for his kids.
This problem needs elaborate discussion and needs a problem solving approach.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2108608]It is amusing that she admitted her interest in sex disappeared precisely after her husband bought her a house and married her. After that, there was no reason to have sex to keep him around anymore. She tried hard to convince us that a childless sexless marriage is the best thing that can ever happen to a man. Something that can only be true in a same-sex marriage. For someone who does not think that sex is important in marriage, she is very worried about her husband fucking someone else. If she is genuinely happy in a sexless marriage, she should be relieved to discover that her husband is fucking younger women that are more attractive. However, she gave the impression that she would become vindictive, if she discovered her husband outsourced the sex to other women or even girly boys.
She admits that she feels insecure and wonders if she became physically repulsive to her husband, as he has not pressed the issue of not wanting to have sex. It looks like she is worried that her ability to control her husband with sexual deprivation is waning. If her husband were to admit that the idea of fucking her disgusts him, she might not take it too well. I noticed that the picture she used for her article is a stock image and not an actual photo of her and her mysteriously asexual husband. She is most likely much heavier than she was 12 years ago when her husband met her, and she was sucking and fucking him any and everywhere to convince him to buy that house and marry her.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Riina;2108585]She's not telling you her husband is a homo. I've seen it in real life along with the false legitimization.[/QUOTE]I wasn't sure if he was gay, or a eunuch, or just extremely uxorious as many AM seem to be these days. Could be he just mongers instead of dealing with her bullshit.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;2108587]Another option is to "Superman dat Ho". A term made famous by HipHop artist Soulja Boy:
[B]Superman Dat Ho-e[/B]
When you ejaculate on a girl's back then put a blanket on her so when she stands up the blanket sticks therefore making her look like she has a cape.
[I]Source[/I]: Urban Dictionary[/QUOTE]Why ruin a perfectly good blanket? My approach seems better.
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2108608]It looks like she is worried that her ability to control her husband with sexual deprivation is waning. If her husband were to admit that the idea of fucking her disgusts him, she might not take it too well. I noticed that the picture she used for her article is a stock image and not an actual photo of her and her mysteriously asexual husband. She is most likely much heavier than she was 12 years ago when her husband met her, and she was sucking and fucking him any and everywhere to convince him to buy that house and marry her.[/QUOTE]I have a friend whose wife told him years ago that she had lost her drive to have sex. But then what she did next shocked me! She told him that she understood that he still needed to have sex. So, for her, it would be OK if he saw prostitutes to satisfy his sexual needs! She had only two rules. Number one was never bring one of those tutes to her house! And number two was for him to not spend too much money. Now how many American women would be reasonable and go for something like that? No, they would think it's OK to deprive their mate of sex, and if he seeks it outside of the marriage, then she will take him for all he's worth! To that I say fuck that! By the way, they are still together, so I guess their arrangement worked. Good for them!
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[QUOTE=Riina;2108585]She's not telling you her husband is a homo. I've seen it in real life along with the false legitimization.[/QUOTE]I sure would like to know what that cow looks like. Anyway her husband is a fool if he doesn't have a plan be.
Forever cuttle. What bullshit.
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[QUOTE=BobLou;2108647]Dear Seniors,
In first place, why it is so that females are not interested in sex after marriage and start questioning about the fidelity of their husband.
Everywhere it is the same reduced or no sex after the marriage.
[/QUOTE]Married twice, happened twice. Solution: iron clad pre-nup. Hit all of the important points. Her own lawyer to represent her interests, video of the signing, etc. It's well worth the 2 K it will cost you.
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[QUOTE=BobLou;2108647]Dear Seniors,
In first place, why it is so that females are not interested in sex after marriage and start questioning about the fidelity of their husband.
Everywhere it is the same reduced or no sex after the marriage.
Naturally then the person turns towards mongering.
Any science behind no or reduced sex after marriage and the options left for the husband in such scenario other than getting separated from wife.
Separation from wifey would result in loss of substantial revenues for the husband and there is no guaranteed sex after remarriage except when he chooses to remain single and pursues mongering.
If he has kids then substantial amount of money he needs to keep for his kids.
This problem needs elaborate discussion and needs a problem solving approach.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Here is an elaborate discussion and a problem solving approach:
Elaborate discussion: Marriage is a quaint and useless anachronism.
Problem solving approach: Don't get married, and monger instead.
Really not so tough at all, as it turns out.
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[QUOTE=NiceGuy99;2109326]Married twice, happened twice. Solution: iron clad pre-nup. Hit all of the important points. Her own lawyer to represent her interests, video of the signing, etc. It's well worth the 2 K it will cost you.[/QUOTE]Why pay 2 K when you could do it pro se? Not like you have to know courtroom proceedings to type up a piece of paper and get it signed and notorized.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2109354]Why pay 2 K when you could do it pro se? Not like you have to know courtroom proceedings to type up a piece of paper and get it signed and notorized.[/QUOTE]As a wise man once said: 'he who acts as his own attorney has a fool for a client. ' And probably a j@ckass for an attorney as well. Why not give yourself a root canal? I think Abraham Lincoln got that one right. Cheap insurance. Doing it [I]pro se[/I] leaves it wide open for the woman to say she was coerced, naïve, unrepresented, in a position of disparate power, and so forth. Plus the term refers to representing one's self in litigation or court, whereas the idea with a pre-nup is, ideally, not to end up in litigation or court.
Why not set up your own trusts? And as a former CPA, I can't tell you how many j@ckasses I ran across who did that and fucked it all up.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;2109376]As a wise man once said: 'he who acts as his own attorney has a fool for a client. ' And probably a j@ckass for an attorney as well. Why not give yourself a root canal? I think Abraham Lincoln got that one right. Cheap insurance. Doing it [I]pro se[/I] leaves it wide open for the woman to say she was coerced, nave, unrepresented, in a position of disparate power, and so forth. Plus the term refers to representing one's self in litigation or court, whereas the idea with a pre-nup is, ideally, not to end up in litigation or court.
Why not set up your own trusts? And as a former CPA, I can't tell you how many j@ckasses I ran across who did that and fucked it all up.[/QUOTE]Right on. The most important part is that she had legal representaion at the time of the agreement. As they say you can pay now or pay later!
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;2109376]As a wise man once said: 'he who acts as his own attorney has a fool for a client. ' And probably a j@ckass for an attorney as well. Why not give yourself a root canal?[/QUOTE]Not the same thing. If you can read and write you should be able to do paperwork on your own IMHO. It is the same thing as people going to lawyers trying to get a visa. The lawyer can not do anything that you can not do on your own. I have represented myself on 6 cases and won 5 of them. Won: Divorce (while my wife had a lawyer and I did not), child custody, 2 lawsuits against businesses, and 1 lawsuit when a business was suing me. Lost in traffic court in front of a jury.
Whereas in the old days you had to go to the law library, these days there are too many examples of contracts and other legal documents online that you can follow to save yourself some money.
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Rest in Peace Charles Tyler (a*k*a The Charles Tyler Show)
Oshay Duke Jackson posted the news today:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZhC0TohdMs&feature=em-lbcastemail[/URL]
If you guys don't know who Charles Tyler is, his sole mission was to get brothas to start coming to Brazil. Had some awesome encouraging and motivational classics on his channel. One of my favorites:
[b]Nice Guys Finish Last in the MATRIX USA, but First in Brazil:[/b]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px5zQEtrrqM[/URL]
Interestingly, big homie died in the place he loved and fought to move to permanently: Brazil.
Rest In Peace Charles Tyler.
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Read the contract before signing.
[QUOTE=BobLou;2108647]Dear Seniors,
In first place, why it is so that females are not interested in sex after marriage and start questioning about the fidelity of their husband.
Everywhere it is the same reduced or no sex after the marriage.
Naturally then the person turns towards mongering..[/QUOTE]Why women are not sexing you after marriage and questioning your fidelity? Imagine a company hires an employee based on an employment that contract that requires the company to pay that employee a severance package equal to at least half of all its assets and a monthly payment for years after termination of employment. The contract is binding regardless of any fault on the employee's part that led to termination of employment, including failure to perform duties in their job description. The employee may also decide to quit for any reason and receive the same severance package. Under the described circumstances, would you expect the employee to have a high level of job performance and motivation? Think about it, because this is the contract and severance package marriage gives women with the agreement of their husbands.
There are cultural factors that come into play in American marriages. The first one is the fact that many American women see sex in marriage as optional. A husband can beg for sex from his wife but he cannot compel her to provide it. The law protects her right to refusal and punishes husbands who infringe upon it. Furthermore, when a wife withholds sex, society assumes it is because the husband did something wrong. It is acceptable for American women to discipline their husbands by withholding sex as a punishment and providing it as a reward only in return for being a good boy.
American dating and hook-up culture allows young women to sex like rats in their teens and twenties, racking up scores of sex partners. By the time these women decide to settle down and marry, they feel sexed-out because they have seen it all and done it all. They have tried every size, shape, kind, and color of cock that interested them in every possible position and hole. There is nothing new their husbands can show them in regards to sexing, unless it is extremely kinky such as a 5-guy cream pie. In some cases, even that will not pique her interest as she might have superseded that by taking on the high school football team, college basketball team and / or all the fellas in her favorite frat house.
American society sees sex as something that men need and women reluctantly provide. This idea is reinforced when women complain that men are constantly harassing them for sex and they just want to be left alone. American women feel as though they are under sexual siege by creepy middle-aged and elderly men. They complain to their girlfriends about all the sex-crazed creeps that they had to deal with throughout the day. Then after a hard day at work, their husband comes home and wants to sex them. Their feelings of resentment eventually lead to them seeing the husband as just one more dick to deal with.
Marriage is un-American. It may sound crazy but it is true. American culture values individualism, personal freedom, privacy, and being the winner. Marriage is all about sacrificing those things and compromising for the good of the team. This an insurmountable challenge for selfish women who believe that it is all about them, especially on their wedding day. The selfishness of the bridezilla is merely a foreboding of worse things to come for the groom. If she does not want or feel in the mood to sex you, then she will not. It really does not matter how you feel about it. Your sole purpose in her life is to make her happy.
Many women are cougars and lust after hard-bodied pool boys and lifeguards with rippling abs. If their husbands are corporate wage slaves, their busy schedules and delivery lunches may have replaced their abs with a lovely round jiggling potbelly. Potbellied balding husbands do not turn on some wives, even if they are good financial providers. They like having them around but they do not like having sex with them. On the other hand, some wives become lazy and let themselves go. Good sexing involves a bit of physical exertion and stamina. Women with poor physical conditioning may feel that sex is too much work and exhausting, cuddling on the couch with a glass of wine and a box of chocolate bonbons is more appealing.
Finally, many American men accept sexless marriages or join the cuck and bull scene to keep the wife happy. They live by the mantra, happy wife happy life.
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Outstanding!
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2110451]Marriage is un-American. It may sound crazy but it is true. American culture values individualism, personal freedom, privacy, and being the winner. Marriage is all about sacrificing those things and compromising for the good of the team. This an insurmountable challenge for selfish women who believe that it is all about them, especially on their wedding day. The selfishness of the bridezilla is merely a foreboding of worse things to come for the groom. If she does not want or feel in the mood to sex you, then she will not. It really does not matter how you feel about it. Your sole purpose in her life is to make her happy.[/QUOTE]Simply cannot be stated any better! The only thing I might add is that in addition to the man's sole purpose being to make "her" happy, I've actually had women (American women) say to me that they saw it as their purpose to make their husbands miserable. Really! No lie! They said it laughingly and all, but behind the laughter I'm confident their husbands were living the truth.
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I can't help but feel the American woman is on a road to completely alienate the American male. Mongering awareness will surly be on the rise.
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Heads!
They keep right on rolling! I mean the French revolution can't hold a stick to this! Off with their heads! And their dicks too while we're at it!
[URL]https://pagesix.com/2017/11/29/matt-lauer-allegedly-sexually-assaulted-female-staffer-during-olympics/[/URL]
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And it don't stop!
I mean, this shit is just getting to be insane! It's going to take a man with some nuts to stand up and say hell no to this shit and sue and win to stop this hysteria! Watch your dicks guys! Watch your dicks!
[URL]https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/29/567241644/garrison-keillor-accused-of-inappropriate-behavior-minnesota-public-radio-says[/URL]
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2111087]They keep right on rolling! I mean the French revolution can't hold a stick to this! Off with their heads! And their dicks too while we're at it!
[URL]https://pagesix.com/2017/11/29/matt-lauer-allegedly-sexually-assaulted-female-staffer-during-olympics/[/URL][/QUOTE]I said this shit could go on forever because that is the way the world has worked for thousands of years. Now all you can do in the USA is approach a woman and ask politely if she wants to fuck. And if she says no on the first time you just have to leave with your tail between your legs or it can be considered harassment.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2111106]I mean, this shit is just getting to be insane! It's going to take a man with some nuts to stand up and say hell no to this shit and sue and win to stop this hysteria! Watch your dicks guys! Watch your dicks!
[URL]https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/29/567241644/garrison-keillor-accused-of-inappropriate-behavior-minnesota-public-radio-says[/URL][/QUOTE]Da fuck? Garrison Keilor? Now this shit is just getting out of hand! This is Salem 2.0
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Sexual Harassment and You.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2111190]Now all you can do in the USA is approach a woman and ask politely if she wants to fuck. And if she says no on the first time you just have to leave with your tail between your legs or it can be considered harassment.[/QUOTE]Apparently some schlubs can't even ask nicely for a simple date without it being considered harassment. But oh, if she thinks you're good looking enough then it's OK! Of course, the video is a funny exaggeration, but I think it is an accurate indictment on how American women have the men by the balls! They want to come work around men and then start setting all the fucking rules! Only approach me if you're good looking enough. Which happens to be highly subjective by the way! Give me a fucking break!
[URL]http://offthemonstersports.com/2016/02/tbt-tom-brady-on-snl-sexual-harassment-and-you-was-hysterical/[/URL]
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The MGTOW guys warned that this was coming!
[QUOTE=TheCane;2111106]I mean, this shit is just getting to be insane! It's going to take a man with some nuts to stand up and say hell no to this shit and sue and win to stop this hysteria! Watch your dicks guys! Watch your dicks!
[URL]https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/29/567241644/garrison-keillor-accused-of-inappropriate-behavior-minnesota-public-radio-says[/URL][/QUOTE]Garrison Keillor should have known they were coming for him next after he defended Sen. Al Franken. Knowing that women are on the offensive in the workplace, the last thing he should have been doing was talking to an obviously disgruntled woman and patting her on the back. He pretty much wandered out into that minefield the second he touched her, it did not matter where he touched her.
Keillor did not realize that America is undergoing a feminist revolution much like the French Revolution, and it comes with its own Reign of Terror for men. The ongoing accusations of sexual harassment in the workplace followed by highly publicized sackings of the men accused is terrifying men in well-paid management positions. These men are now walking on eggshells around female employees. Feminists are saying that the bloodbath will result in more women moving into the vacated highly paid positions. Perhaps, they are underestimating the aversion corporations have towards anything that may increase their liability. Their solution may be something that most people would not expect. Artificial intelligence is probably getting more interest from companies now as robots do not sexually harass each other.
Matt Lauer is not going to get any sympathy after he grilled Bill O'Reilly hard and suggested that there must have been substantial evidence against him that led to his firing. Meanwhile, Lauer was summoning female employees to his office, displaying his penis, demanding that they do something with it, and reprimanding them if they did not do something with it. LOL! It is hard to believe that Lauer was such a sex maniac and he sat there tearing into O'Reilly with that self-righteous look on his face. [URL]https://qz.com/1142180/watch-matt-lauer-now-fired-from-today-grill-bill-oreilly-on-sexual-harassment-charges/[/URL].
Sadly, many American men are like Lauer. Maybe, Lauer was so convinced that O'Reilly was guilty of the accusations because he himself was a sex maniac projecting his guilt. LOL! It is reminiscent of Jimmy Swaggart who preached fire and brimstone on fornicators and adulterers, while he was an undercover monger with a voracious appetite for sexing local prostitutes.
Unfortunately, American men will continue to suffer self-inflicted wounds until they stop pretending that only bad men want sex, and that they are different asexual men. The truth is that all healthy men experience sexual attraction but some are more disciplined and better than others are at repressing those urges. Interestingly, sexual harassment appears to be more of a problem among wealthy high status males. Perhaps, these men feel like they have earned the right to sex.
Historically, American women are hypergamous and more sexually receptive such wealthy high social status males than to men who do not belong in that category. This may have led to these men expecting women to accept their behavior as it appears that it went on for decades in many cases. What has changed now is the way women and employers are reacting to complaints. In the NBC case, reports said that Matt Lauer always intertwined work and sex. Well, at least that was until he got on that woman's bad side, in a time when women are wreaking vengeance.
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And the beat (down) goes on!
Another one with deep pockets goes down:
[URL]https://www.aol.com/article/entertainment/2017/11/30/russell-simmons-steps-down-from-companies-following-sexual-assault-allegation/23292904/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2111302]Apparently some schlubs can't even ask nicely for a simple date without it being considered harassment. But oh, if she thinks you're good looking enough then it's OK! Of course, the video is a funny exaggeration, but I think it is an accurate indictment on how American women have the men by the balls! They want to come work around men and then start setting all the fucking rules! Only approach me if you're good looking enough. Which happens to be highly subjective by the way! Give me a fucking break!
[URL]http://offthemonstersports.com/2016/02/tbt-tom-brady-on-snl-sexual-harassment-and-you-was-hysterical/[/URL][/QUOTE]Cane, some workplaces realize that sexual harassment is subjective in the sense that the person the behavior is directed at must find it unwelcome or offensive. If the person subject to the behavior welcomes it, then no sexual harassment occurred. This allows attractive people in the workplace to date each other, and eliminate unattractive or unpopular men from the workplace via sexual harassment accusations. Many companies remedy this with an anti-fraternization policy that prohibits dating anyone in the workplace. Interestingly, many women complained that such policies decreased their opportunities to find love. LOL!
Women complain that male bosses treat them differently when they avoid one-on-one meetings, closed-door meetings, evening functions, traveling together, and having lunch together. The reasons women give for those complains are that it prevents them from having access to mentorship and getting to know the boss. LOL! More likely, it prevents them from compromising the boss.
With men increasingly avoiding marriage, which is the biggest source of wealth transfer for women, a new means of accumulating capital from men is necessary. This appears to be the sexual harassment lawsuit. It also serves as a useful way of removing men from high-earning positions without due process. Many states have at-will employment laws that allow employers to fire employees without cause. Therefore, an allegation is sufficient basis for termination of employment rather than risking a lawsuit from the women making the complaint.
It is hard being the boss when you work for corporate! [URL]https://youtu.be/NisCkxU544c[/URL].
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All good things must come to an end.
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Accused Men are Suing for Defamation.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2111106]I mean, this shit is just getting to be insane! It's going to take a man with some nuts to stand up and say hell no to this shit and sue and win to stop this hysteria! Watch your dicks guys! Watch your dicks!
[URL]https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/29/567241644/garrison-keillor-accused-of-inappropriate-behavior-minnesota-public-radio-says[/URL][/QUOTE]As more college students say, "Me too," accused men are suing for defamation.
[URL]https://www.buzzfeed.com/tylerkingkade/as-more-college-students-say-me-too-accused-men-are-suing?utm_term=.njExXYLB0[/URL]#. Ws8 RoNJxv.
It appears that some men have had enough of the "Me Too" hysteria and they are starting to sue women for defamation. Now, women seeking attention with allegations that someone sexually harassed them years ago better have some evidence that it actually happened or be prepared to pay legal fees.
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I have finally seen the light and realize that we as men must apologize to all the women we have sexually molested. So I would like to make my sincere apology to the following women:
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The understudied female sexual predator.
According to new research, sexual victimization by women is more common than gender stereotypes would suggest.
[URL]https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/11/the-understudied-female-sexual-predator/503492/[/URL]
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There is hope
Indeed, there may be hope for our youth after all.
[URL]http://www.bbc.com/news/health-42051827[/URL]
"Young people 'experimenting more in bed'" - BBC News.
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More hope.
Catherine Deneuve defends men's 'right' to hit on women.
[URL]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42630108[/URL]
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[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] are everywhere not only brainwashed Americans.
Just fuck before getting fucked.
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Bravo! What's good for the goose is good for the gander! As for men who are sexually assaulted by women I dunno I have been waiting my whole life to be "victimized" by a sweet thing hopefully with a big pair of tits! If any of my sexy college students proposed a lay for an A I'd be on that like a fly on [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113][CodeWord113][/url]. Might have to have them sign something though. Cheers!
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2115513]As more college students say, "Me too," accused men are suing for defamation.
[URL]https://www.buzzfeed.com/tylerkingkade/as-more-college-students-say-me-too-accused-men-are-suing?utm_term=.njExXYLB0[/URL]#. Ws8 RoNJxv.
It appears that some men have had enough of the "Me Too" hysteria and they are starting to sue women for defamation. Now, women seeking attention with allegations that someone sexually harassed them years ago better have some evidence that it actually happened or be prepared to pay legal fees.[/QUOTE].
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"Peoples lives are being shattered and destroyed by a mere allegation, some are true and some are false. Some are old and some are new. There is no recovery for someone falsely accused. Life and career are gone. Is there no such thing any longer as Due Process?" - Donald Trump.
I agree and side with Trump on this.
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[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2139795]"Peoples lives are being shattered and destroyed by a mere allegation, some are true and some are false. Some are old and some are new. There is no recovery for someone falsely accused. Life and career are gone. Is there no such thing any longer as Due Process?" - Donald Trump.
I agree and side with Trump on this.[/QUOTE]Due process never really existed as the media gets more mileage out of the accusations and not much interest in the exonerations. The days when Americans could move on from allegations or recover from bad choices are long gone. Social media facilitates and encourages stalking from vindictive ex-wives, ex-girlfriends, and even casual sex partners. The comedies where all the exes come together to plot revenge on the man who discarded them moving on to a successful career and more desirable wealthy women is now a reality.
Choose the women who you get involved with carefully, as failed relationships or even bad dates can return to haunt you decades in the future. It is no longer enough to avoid the women like "Alex" from the movie Fatal Attraction. Now, any woman can potentially boil your bunny with a mere allegation casting you in a bad light. This means that getting to know someone through one-on-one dating is probably risky. It also means setting a low threshold for bolting at the slightest sign that she may be a shrew.
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I was at the airport outside baggage checkin and had my bag on the scale for 10 seconds as a bleached 60 yo blondie approach and handed her ID to the porter, trying to cut in front of me. I pointed out I was ahead of her and my bag was already on the scale. In a huff she says "well you are certainly not a gentleman ". Dried up blondie in animal pants thought I should just let her in front of me! LOL.
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Tucker: Something ominous is happening to men in America.
In a nutshell: "Tucker said that it is not being talked about or studied, but men in America are failing in body, mind, and spirit. He said that 77% of all suicides are men, which is an increase of 43% between 1997 and 2014, and they are disproportionately white men. He also said that men die earlier than women, often because they are addicted to alcohol or other drugs. There is also a big education gap. More women are going to college and are in Ph. The. Programs. He said that the wages of men who only have a H. S. Education are going down, but for women they are going up. And he said it is a misleading statistic when they say that women only make 70 cents for every man's dollar. He said you have to compare the same jobs together, not a blanket figure. Women in the same jobs are actually in some cases making more money then men. There are more women are in management than men. He said that unmarried young men are living at home with their parents, whereas single women are buying their own homes. Also, men's sperm counts are going down dramatically, and not because of age, which causes problems such as depression. Scientists don't know why that is either. Carlson interviewed one psychologist, Jordan Peterson, who said that the left is promoting the idea that there is something wrong with masculinity and that men have oppressed women all throughout history, which he says is a reprehensible rewrite of history. He said that if your son is being taught that men and masculinity are bad, they are being indoctrinated, not educated, and that as a parent, you should get them out of that school. . ."
Fox News-Tucker Carlson .
March 7, 2018.
Tucker Carlson.
Commenter: American women are all but completely ruined. No modesty, no chastity, no deference, no grace, tattooed like street thugs and mouths like sailors, and all the while expecting to be treated like an actual royal. What red-blooded American male could possibly want to marry that?
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Marry it? Hell, I don't even want to go near it! Travv, Dg, this type of crap is happening all the time in USA. Which is why I stopped dating American broads a few years ago. They are not worth the trouble, the time or the expense. Emotionally demanding basket cases with incessant meaningless dribble drabble. Most are fat, too, and don't know how to suck a dick, so outside of work I have no use for them. Chivalry is dead in USA because the dumb broads killed it. I just save up my money and go to PI or DR where a man is still treated like a man for a fraction of the cost.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2149873]I was at the airport outside baggage checkin and had my bag on the scale for 10 seconds as a bleached 60 yo blondie approach and handed her ID to the porter, trying to cut in front of me. I pointed out I was ahead of her and my bag was already on the scale. In a huff she says "well you are certainly not a gentleman ". Dried up blondie in animal pants thought I should just let her in front of me! LOL.[/QUOTE].
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True words.
[QUOTE=DCups;2150244]Marry it? Hell, I don't even want to go near it! Travv, Dg, this type of crap is happening all the time in USA. Which is why I stopped dating American broads a few years ago. They are not worth the trouble, the time or the expense. Emotionally demanding basket cases with incessant meaningless dribble drabble. Most are fat, too, and don't know how to suck a dick, so outside of work I have no use for them. Chivalry is dead in USA because the dumb broads killed it. I just save up my money and go to PI or DR where a man is still treated like a man for a fraction of the cost.[/QUOTE]This is so true. Not only to USA, but most part of the 1st world.
IMHO, there probably have to pass another 20-30 years before the fanatic feminists of today have all past their prime, and got nothing but resentment and and bitterness to look back upon in their lives.
Their daughters will probably learn that hating on men is not the way to a happy, fullfilling life, and those who don't learn, will suffer the same fate as their mothers.
It's just plain Darwinism.
I actually feel most sad for they young guys out there today, who know nothing about how a normal manly-masculine and female-feminine relation works.
They will take the hardest hits, as the women favoured by the legal system, always walk away with a win.
Us older guys can counter-balance this mass-psychosis by going to 2nd and 3rd world countries.
But as said, young guys today with no experience, will have no clue about what a freight train of pain that will hit them with this new wave of rabid fanatical feminists. Hard time is coming.
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Boycotting marriage
Why are so many men on marriage strike? [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KObTMXH2xaE[/URL].
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[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2127098]Catherine Deneuve defends men's 'right' to hit on women.
[URL]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42630108[/URL][/QUOTE]Deneuve is one of a handful of decent female celebrities. She signed the petition opposing the French law to penalize prostitutes' clients.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/10470024/Screen-stars-join-Frances-battle-to-save-prostitution.html
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2153793]Why are so many men on marriage strike? [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KObTMXH2xaE[/URL].[/QUOTE]Probably because when they hit middle-age, they realize what a bad deal they got. Then they go rogue and run off with Sum Ting Yung! [URL]https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/disturbing-details-man-checked-16-025935413.html[/URL].
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Bad Deal? $57 K in Alimony paid over 22 years, then Ex files to triple the amount?
Can't believe guys aren't running to get marriage licenses. What a deal, only $57 K per year alimony!
"An Ontario judge has rejected a Saskatchewan woman's efforts to triple her spousal support two decades after her divorce, deciding instead to cut off her main source of income completely. Kevin Choquette, a retired bank analyst worth more than $14 million, applied to the court to end the $57,000 per year in spousal support he has been paying Yvonne Choquette for 22 years. In response, Yvonne Choquette requested that her support be tripled to $180,000 per year. In a decision published on March 1, Judge Kenneth Hood sided with Kevin Choquette, 62, explaining the reason he's stripping Yvonne Choquette, 62, of what amounts to nearly 100 per cent of her income is because she's made "no effort" to become self-sufficient. . ."
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2154173]Probably because when they hit middle-age, they realize what a bad deal they got. Then they go rogue and run off with Sum Ting Yung! [URL]https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/disturbing-details-man-checked-16-025935413.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]
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Voila!
Thought some of you guys would enjoy this (courtesy of Mr. Ho): [URL]https://www.nowife.com/why_men_should_not_marry.html[/URL].
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Fat Instagrammer proud of chubby chasing hot husband.
The overweight American woman drew thousands of responses from stunned Instagrammers when she posted a photo of herself with her fit husband on a beach.
[URL]https://nypost.com/2018/03/19/curvy-instagrammer-wont-apologize-for-hot-husband/[/URL]
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[URL]NoWife.com[/URL]
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It sure seems like the times sure have changed: [URL]https://pagesix.com/2018/03/21/robin-williams-co-star-never-took-offense-to-his-groping/[/URL].
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How can I break up with an American woman? I have been in a relationship with her for 6 months and haven't fucked other women for a while. I want to leave her before mongering in Brazil. I am now living in Japan and I can't fuck other women on the side, as she is always up my ass.
Any advice from some grown men.
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[QUOTE=Komo753;2158331]How can I break up with an American woman? Any advice from some grown men.[/QUOTE]Put her in charge of the Kitchen.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;2158550]Yeah. Grow a pair.[/QUOTE]The morning me and my wife got back from Brazil, I told her that I didn't want to be married anymore and left and the rest is history. My wife was a good woman, but the way I got hypnotized looking at those Brazilians was a stronger power.
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Run for your life. Kick her out or move or divorce her or do whatever it takes. Just say your goals have changed and get on with it. As Dickhead says grow a pair. The other option is to get caught cheating and let her break up with you. The sooner the better.
[QUOTE=Komo753;2158331]How can I break up with an American woman? I have been in a relationship with her for 6 months and haven't fucked other women for a while. I want to leave her before mongering in Brazil. I am now living in Japan and I can't fuck other women on the side, as she is always up my ass.
Any advice from some grown men.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DCups;2158690]Run for your life. Kick her out or move or divorce her or do whatever it takes. Just say your goals have changed and get on with it. As Dickhead says grow a pair. The other option is to get caught cheating and let her break up with you. The sooner the better.[/QUOTE]She is a skinny white woman but she is as mental as any fat American woman, she was cool in the beginning but now she pisses me off. She started to change her personality one month ago. I can't live the rest of my life that way. I will be depressed at worst a cancer will develop in my body. She has stopped fucking me for 3 weeks.
I can't put her in charge of the kitchen, she is not much of a cook.
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Involved with a dangerous woman.
[QUOTE=Komo753;2158331]How can I break up with an American woman? I have been in a relationship with her for 6 months and haven't fucked other women for a while. I want to leave her before mongering in Brazil. I am now living in Japan and I can't fuck other women on the side, as she is always up my ass.
Any advice from some grown men.[/QUOTE]You have told us very little about this woman and your relationship with her. We do not know why you cannot just tell her it is over. You need to give us a more detailed information about your situation. Otherwise, we can only offer general information that may not be specific to your particular predicament. A break up with a woman that you casually dated over the past 6 months is very different from one where you quickly entangled your life with hers. Have you moved in together? Does she have anything on you? Is she a coworker or subordinate who can turn into a #METOO victim when you end the relationship?
If she acts crazy, she probably is. Have you noticed any medications for mental illness in her medicine cabinet or on her nightstand? Women account for 75% of Americans diagnosed with borderline personality disorder (BPD).
If she has five or more of the following characteristics:
1. Acts verbally abusive toward people she knows very well;
2. Has frightening, unpredictable rages;
3. Acts impulsively in ways that are potentially self-damaging;
4. Accuses others of doing things they did not do, having feelings they do not feel, or believing things they do not believe;
5. Rushes into relationships, including extramarital affairs, based on idealized fantasies and is unreasonably frightened of abandonment by her lovers;
6. Does or says inappropriate things to focus the attention on themselves;
7. Acts competent and controlled in some situations but extremely out of control in others;
8. Cuts people out of her life over issues that seem trivial or overblown;
9. Acts inconsistently or unpredictably;
You are almost certainly dealing with a woman with BPD. There is no cure for BPD. Run! Run away!
First, the hardest part often comes after the relationship is over because the borderline both undermines their partner's confidence and leaves land mines to destroy their partner's career, which domestic violence allegations and charges do quite effectively. Nevertheless, look for the borderline personality to call your boss, your friends, your parents, and the police in her attempts to destroy you.
Second, borderlines often target high-achieving men, particularly those who use alcohol.
Third, many borderlines insist on acting out masochistic roles and can readily inspire enough anger in their partners to gratify the impulse. That, of course, is considered male domestic violence under current law.
It may appear that she started to change her personality a month ago, but it was always lurking under the act she put on to draw you into the trap baited with her pussy. A month ago, she decided that she met her ends. Therefore, she no longer saw a need to continue the charade. She no longer had to put up with you fucking her, as she achieved control. Now all she is doing is keeping her hand firming gripped around your balls, ensuring that you cannot seek relief elsewhere. Since you cannot go out alone and let other women drain your nuts, they are now her hostages. This will not end well for you.
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[QUOTE=Komo753;2158331]How can I break up with an American woman? I have been in a relationship with her for 6 months and haven't fucked other women for a while. I want to leave her before mongering in Brazil. I am now living in Japan and I can't fuck other women on the side, as she is always up my ass.
Any advice from some grown men.[/QUOTE]Talk to Putin and see if he can get his lab to help.
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2159320]You have told us very little about this woman and your relationship with her. We do not know why you cannot just tell her it is over. You need to give us a more detailed information about your situation. Otherwise, we can only offer general information that may not be specific to your particular predicament. A break up with a woman that you casually dated over the past 6 months is very different from one where you quickly entangled your life with hers. Have you moved in together? Does she have anything on you? Is she a coworker or subordinate who can turn into a #METOO victim when you end the relationship?.[/QUOTE]She doesn't have borderline personality disorder. The only thing I like about her is that she doesn't eat into my money. She doesn't want to fuck me because I don't want to fuck her without condom. Three weeks ago she were talking to me about forming a family and since then she stopped fucking me. I said who the fuck put you up to that shit? You never talked about that. She puts her carrier before mine and wants me to be a follower.
P.S. She lives with me and also has my apartment key. Officially, we have the same address.
She doesn't know I have ever been to Brazil or Russia. I plan to travel to Brazil in August and stay out there for six months. I did not tell her and I feel a bit guilty. On one side I will regret on the other side I think I better go to Brazil and enjoy my miserable life. I am sure I will regret not fucking enough women when I grow older if I stay with her.
We have to go to Thailand for 10 days soon. Flights are very cheap from Tokyo to any international airport. I am sure I won't fuck any girl out there. Because if I am not able to fuck girls here on the side, I won't be able to fuck in Thailand either. Because I will always have her eye on me. I haven't fucked women other than her for 6 months. I would like to fuck a Japanese girl before leaving for Brazil.
There are some married or unmarried grown men that regret being married or unmarried? Your information is important to me. Because you are better in that area than me.
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Komo,
Dump her ASAP. You are nuts to take any American broad anywhere let alone Bangkok. Geez. Wake up, man.
[QUOTE=Komo753;2159613]P.S. She lives with me and also has my apartment key. Officially, we have the same address.
We have to go to Thailand for 10 days soon. Flights are very cheap from Tokyo to any international airport. .[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Komo753;2159613]She doesn't have borderline personality disorder.....Three weeks ago she were talking to me about forming a family and since then she stopped fucking me.
P.S. She lives with me and also has my apartment key. Officially, we have the same [/QUOTE]She probably stopped fucking you because she saw you on a hoormongering forum. So she's not crazy, is living with you and wants to have a family with you. Sounds like she really likes you and probably loves you. She stopped fucking you because she is upset. Perhaps your attitude changed with her, or she senses you are separating from her.
You've had your share of banging hookers. Maybe you need to make a commitment and settle down. I bet if you forget about Brazil and hookers for a while and focus on her that with a bit of work you can enjoy the relationship and it's benefits. Sure, maybe it blows up in 7 years. But you might be walking away from a good thing that is going bad because of you and your fear of intimacy. She is really into you. Give it a serious effort. Worst case, you can comfort yourself with hookers in Brazil when you are a little older.
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[QUOTE=Komo753;2159613]She doesn't have borderline personality disorder. The only thing I like about her is that she doesn't eat into my money. She doesn't want to fuck me because I don't want to fuck her without condom. Three weeks ago she were talking to me about forming a family and since then she stopped fucking me. I said who the fuck put you up to that shit? You never talked about that. She puts her carrier before mine and wants me to be a follower.
P.S. She lives with me and also has my apartment key. Officially, we have the same address.
She doesn't know I have ever been to Brazil or Russia. I plan to travel to Brazil in August and stay out there for six months. I did not tell her and I feel a bit guilty. On one side I will regret on the other side I think I better go to Brazil and enjoy my miserable life. I am sure I will regret not fucking enough women when I grow older if I stay with her..[/QUOTE]Clearly, you need to part ways with that American woman, as you have very different goals in life. She is feeling her biological clock ticking, so she wants to nest and breed! She may not be a borderline but she is not sane either. Mentally stable women do not move in and start talking about forming a family with a man they have known all of six months. Furthermore, any woman who pouts because you refuse to fuck her without a condom and cream pie her pussy has some serious issues. She is definitely controlling and entitled. What you want clearly does not matter from her point of view. She sees you as a sperm donor and child support victim, possibly an alimony victim too once she breeds and uses the baby as leverage.
What you do know now, is that she uses sex as a weapon in the relationship. If you refuse to conform, she punishes you by withholding sex. Is this someone you want to spend another day with, much less months or years? Do you want to waste your precious time and opportunities to do the things that you enjoy in life because she does not approve? She is calculating and manipulative! She deprives you of sex because you refused to impregnate her. Meanwhile, she engages in stalking behavior to make certain you cannot find relief in another pussy.
Already, you resent your entanglement with this emotional vampire. Even now, you regret not being able to fuck Japanese and Thai girls because this matronly American woman just follows you around giving the hot Asian girls the stink eye! Seriously, you need to stand up for yourself and tell her it was over when she cut the sex off. She needs to give you some space and find her own activities. If you allow her to stick around just to make your life miserable, you will regret it for the rest of your life.
I have never heard any man say that he regretted never marrying. What is there to regret about keeping all the money you earn, spending it on what you want, and doing things that you enjoy in life? No one ever says, "Geez, I regret never marrying and living a life of quiet desperation until the wife cut off the sex and dragged my ass into divorce court to strip me of all my assets and future earnings!
Having a family is another overrated crapshoot for American men. Your kids belong to the woman you have them with. If you get on her bad side, she can take them away, deny visitation, and turn them against you. Meanwhile, you get to see your gross income diminished supporting them while their mother makes them call her husband or boyfriend "Daddy!
Just think about all the old men who have terrible or no relationships with their grown kids after sacrificing their lives slaving for them. Think about all the kids that hate their fathers for some ridiculous reason like never taking them to Disneyland because he had a crap job with long hours and little vacation time. Are you ever going to regret not being that guy?
Cocks do not get better with age; they just get softer and limper. Fuck now in your youth, when it is your time for fucking and not someone else's! Times are changing and the pussy buffets in emerging economies may not be around tomorrow. Middle-aged and elderly newly divorced American men will not have many appealing options in another decade or two. Believe me! If you are one of those fellas, you are going to regret the mistakes you are making now. LOL!
Take a look at some of the popular court TV shows where down-and-out daddies are hauled before a shrewish female judge whose unsympathetic response to their misfortunes is, "Sir, no one forced you to have sex with her. You should have worn a condom!" Therefore, your choices are clear. Break up with your sexual extortionist live-in girlfriend or, continue to let her control and manipulate you into a lifetime of misery. The future is in your hands!
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I don't want to live through a midlife at forty like many American dudes. I want to live the high life by fucking as many [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] as I can. Do you think the American virus will spread to Canada?
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2159865]Clearly, you need to part ways with that American woman, as you have very different goals in life. She is feeling her biological clock ticking, so she wants to nest and breed! She may not be a borderline but she is not sane either. Mentally stable women do not move in and start talking about forming a family with a man they have known all of six months. Furthermore, any woman who pouts because you refuse to fuck her without a condom and cream pie her pussy has some serious issues. She is definitely controlling and entitled. What you want clearly does not matter from her point of view. She sees you as a sperm donor and child support victim, possibly an alimony victim too once she breeds and uses the baby as leverage.
What you do know now, is that she uses sex as a weapon in the relationship. If you refuse to conform, she punishes you by withholding sex. Is this someone you want to spend another day with, much less months or years? Do you want to waste your precious time and opportunities to do the things that you enjoy in life because she does not approve? She is calculating and manipulative! She deprives you of sex because you refused to impregnate her. Meanwhile, she engages in stalking behavior to make certain you cannot find relief in another pussy.
Already, you resent your entanglement with this emotional vampire. Even now, you regret not being able to fuck Japanese and Thai girls because this matronly American woman just follows you around giving the hot Asian girls the stink eye! Seriously, you need to stand up for yourself and tell her it was over when she cut the sex off. She needs to give you some space and find her own activities. If you allow her to stick around just to make your life miserable, you will regret it for the rest of your life.
I have never heard any man say that he regretted never marrying. What is there to regret about keeping all the money you earn, spending it on what you want, and doing things that you enjoy in life? No one ever says, "Geez, I regret never marrying and living a life of quiet desperation until the wife cut off the sex and dragged my ass into divorce court to strip me of all my assets and future earnings!
Having a family is another overrated crapshoot for American men. Your kids belong to the woman you have them with. If you get on her bad side, she can take them away, deny visitation, and turn them against you. Meanwhile, you get to see your gross income diminished supporting them while their mother makes them call her husband or boyfriend "Daddy!
Just think about all the old men who have terrible or no relationships with their grown kids after sacrificing their lives slaving for them. Think about all the kids that hate their fathers for some ridiculous reason like never taking them to Disneyland because he had a crap job with long hours and little vacation time. Are you ever going to regret not being that guy?
Cocks do not get better with age; they just get softer and limper. Fuck now in your youth, when it is your time for fucking and not someone else's! Times are changing and the pussy buffets in emerging economies may not be around tomorrow. Middle-aged and elderly newly divorced American men will not have many appealing options in another decade or two. Believe me! If you are one of those fellas, you are going to regret the mistakes you are making now. LOL![/QUOTE]I have been regretting since I accepted her to live with me. That's the last time I will put myself in a relationship with a woman. She always complains about everything and nothing. Now it is too late to change our mind about our trip to Thailand. Everything is settled and too late to ask for a refund. She wants to go on honeymoon to Thailand. What the fuck does she want to do in Thailand the biggest mongering place in the world. She is not happy to live in Japan, she is homesick and fed up with Japanese people. Culture shock. Every night after work, she bothers me about "this is the first time in her life she has felt left out in a distant country, since Japanese men ignore her and don't compliment her on her look and it is not in the Japanese men's nature to be gentle and all foreign men in Japan going after Japanese women have yellow fever and need to see a practitioner, she can't make friends with any Japanese woman due to their cultural difference, most Japanese women wanting to make friends with her is only because they want to practise their fucking English but they never invite her out because they prefer sticking together to carting a gajin around whose level of Japanese is null. Everyday it's the same story after work. I am sure I'm going to be as crazy as her if I continue my relationship with her. She has no friends that's why she wants pull me down as she fails to have friends. When we hang out is another story. I can't choose the restaurant in which I want to eat, and choose my hobby. I lam living a fucking hell, the worst year of my life. I can't kick her out, as we signed a lease. Now I understand why we pay women for sex. We don't pay them to fuck but we pay them to leave. I really want her to find some people to go out because I am fed up with having her up my ass all the time. When she knocks off work, she stands by the door of the company I work for until I finish work. I will go to Brazil without forewarning her. Japan is not an easy country to live in as a Gaijin and even worse as a Female Gajin.
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[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2159783]She probably stopped fucking you because she saw you on a hoormongering forum. So she's not crazy, is living with you and wants to have a family with you. Sounds like she really likes you and probably loves you. She stopped fucking you because she is upset. Perhaps your attitude changed with her, or she senses you are separating from her.
You've had your share of banging hookers. Maybe you need to make a commitment and settle down. I bet if you forget about Brazil and hookers for a while and focus on her that with a bit of work you can enjoy the relationship and it's benefits. Sure, maybe it blows up in 7 years. But you might be walking away from a good thing that is going bad because of you and your fear of intimacy. She is really into you. Give it a serious effort. Worst case, you can comfort yourself with hookers in Brazil when you are a little older.[/QUOTE]The problem is I can't forget about Brazil, I don't want to take on responsibility for being with a woman for life. I need to fuck as many women as possible, for as long as I am young. Sometimes I need need privacy but it is impossible with this woman.
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[QUOTE=Komo753;2160049]I have been regretting since I accepted her to live with me. That's the last time I will put myself in a relationship with a woman. She always complains about everything and nothing. Now it is too late to change our mind about our trip to Thailand. Everything is settled and too late to ask for a refund. She wants to go on honeymoon to Thailand. What the fuck does she want to do in Thailand the biggest mongering place in the world. She is not happy to live in Japan, she is homesick and fed up with Japanese people. Culture shock. Every night after work, she bothers me about "this is the first time in her life she has felt left out in a distant country, since Japanese men ignore her and don't compliment her on her look and it is not in the Japanese men's nature to be gentle and all foreign men in Japan going after Japanese women have yellow fever and need to see a practitioner, she can't make friends with any Japanese woman due to their cultural difference, most Japanese women wanting to make friends with her is only because they want to practise their fucking English but they never invite her out because they prefer sticking together to carting a gajin around whose level of Japanese is null. Everyday it's the same story after work. I am sure I'm going to be as crazy as her if I continue my relationship with her. She has no friends that's why she wants pull me down as she fails to have friends. When we hang out is another story. I can't choose the restaurant in which I want to eat, and choose my hobby. I lam living a fucking hell, the worst year of my life. I can't kick her out, as we signed a lease. Now I understand why we pay women for sex. We don't pay them to fuck but we pay them to leave. I really want her to find some people to go out because I am fed up with having her up my ass all the time. When she knocks off work, she stands by the door of the company I work for until I finish work. I will go to Brazil without forewarning her. Japan is not an easy country to live in as a Gaijin and even worse as a Female Gajin.[/QUOTE]Why play the victim? You have what you have created here. Man up and have a talk with her. I don't mind a man mongering but a man that will just up and run off to Brazil without warning! Isn't a man.
Btw, the relationship advice or any advice here in ISG is worth about 2 pesos or 4 yen, including mine.
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The fact that you signed a lease does not prevent YOU from moving out. No idea why my earlier post was deleted. Show de ho de do.
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Not Bukkake Grade Tuna.
[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2159783]She probably stopped fucking you because she saw you on a hoormongering forum. So she's not crazy, is living with you and wants to have a family with you. Sounds like she really likes you and probably loves you. She stopped fucking you because she is upset. Perhaps your attitude changed with her, or she senses you are separating from her.
You've had your share of banging hookers. Maybe you need to make a commitment and settle down. I bet if you forget about Brazil and hookers for a while and focus on her that with a bit of work you can enjoy the relationship and it's benefits. Sure, maybe it blows up in 7 years. But you might be walking away from a good thing that is going bad because of you and your fear of intimacy. She is really into you. Give it a serious effort. Worst case, you can comfort yourself with hookers in Brazil when you are a little older.[/QUOTE]From his description of their relationship, it looks like she is socially isolated in Japan, as the Japanese girls regard her as the ugly American woman, and the Japanese men do not think she is "bukkake" grade material. She gets no attention from other Western men because are too busy fucking much hotter Japanese girls. She is living the ultimate American woman nightmare. Men are ignoring her, and she has to pay for her own dinner and drinks unless Komo is around to pay for her.
She has no life and is depressed because back in America she would be too busy twisting dicks by the dozen to notice Komo. Therefore, she wants him to feel her pain and misery. The woman is an emotional vampire draining the joy out of his life with constant whining, complaining, and demanding to have everything her way. She is not into Komo, he is just convenient given her loneliness and depression. If she were into him, she would not slam his cock with stiff sanctions by blockading her pussy. She would at least eat at restaurants that he likes sometimes.
Komo thinks she is not crazy, but she stalks him and hangs out in front the door of his workplace to make sure he does not go anywhere without her. How is that not crazy? If a man did that to her in America, she would take out a restraining order on his ass! The more Komo describes her, the more she sounds like Alexandra Forrest from the movie Fatal Attraction. If Komo does not save himself soon, she is going to boil his bunny.
Furthermore, he does not like her manipulating his action. He wants to fuck more hooker pussy, and she is getting in the way of that because she wants to tie him down in an unhappy marriage and pop out a few kids that he will be on the hook to provide for over the next two decades. After it ends in a disaster 7 years later, he will be financially ruined and unable to afford hookers in Brazil, assuming there will be any left by then. He should be giving serious effort in moving out of the apartment and making sure that she can never find him again. If he leaves now, no one gets hurt. In 7 years when he goes out to buy cigarettes and does not come back, there will be a few kids left without a father and at the mercy of a mentally unstable mother. Trying to make it work will only create and ruin innocent lives. If breaking up is hard to do after only six months, wait for the divorce with kids 7 years later.
Komo should do the honorable thing, pack his bags and run away to Hooker Heaven, in Rio. The American vampire girlfriend will find other prey to drain of happiness. The worst that can happen is that she decides to flee Japan and return to America where she can be the center of attention again.
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Disgusted!
I find Komo's situation to be revolting. It's what I knew, even as a young man, that I did not want for myself. Ever. I couldn't really enunciate it all so clearly back then. But I knew it, and with experience it all became crystal clear. Let me just say that I come and go when I want to. I do what I want to do, when I want to do it. I eat what I want to eat, and I watch on TV what I want to watch. And no woman is going to come into my life and tell me what I'm going to do. The last one to do that was my mother, and that ended decades ago!
I'm not desperate. I'm not "thirsty" for some pussy. And you see, that's the key. Motherfuckers need to stop being and acting so damn thirsty for it around these women. And when you do that, then you realize that you are in control of your life, and not her! Because that woman who thinks she's going to tell you what to do? Well once she realizes that you don't need (or even want) that cookie she's keeping locked up inside her cookie jar, because there are plenty of other cookies in wide-open cookie jars all over the place? Game over! Get to stepping chick! Right out of my life!
Because I don't thirst for your ass. I'm not thirsty for any woman! And men, once you arrive to that very same place, then you realize that you are in control, and that you will live your life exactly as you damn well please! Then they want to get pissed off when they see you don't need them or their pussy (their main asset), and therefore can't be controlled by them. Want to start calling you names. You must be gay! No woman is about to tell me I can't have cable TV! This is my house! I'll get me the super premium package plus get my scrotum sucked by women less than half your age nag! Yes sir I will! Watch me.
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2160129]From his description of their relationship, it looks like she is socially isolated in Japan, as the Japanese girls regard her as the ugly American woman, and the Japanese men do not think she is "bukkake" grade material. She gets no attention from other Western men because are too busy fucking much hotter Japanese girls. She is living the ultimate American woman nightmare. Men are ignoring her, and she has to pay for her own dinner and drinks unless Komo is around to pay for her.
She has no life and is depressed because back in America she would be too busy twisting dicks by the dozen to notice Komo. Therefore, she wants him to feel her pain and misery. The woman is an emotional vampire draining the joy out of his life with constant whining, complaining, and demanding to have everything her way. She is not into Komo, he is just convenient given her loneliness and depression. If she were into him, she would not slam his cock with stiff sanctions by blockading her pussy. She would at least eat at restaurants that he likes sometimes..[/QUOTE]I have never paid for her restaurant meals, I forgot to mention she paid for our trip to Thailand and we plan on going in a couple of months. I am sure I won't enjoy Thailand because I will always be followed, I can't move out because I need to get my deposit back so I have to stay till the lease is over, the only things I pay is the rent and the electricity and water bill. She is registered in the same address as me though she doesn't pay anything. I get the feeling she got me by the balls. I haven't fucked women other than her for 6 months. I just want to take my mind off things, I need to get away but I can't because of my work so I am stuck in a country whose women I am not attracted to, with a lady that pisses me off without letting me take a breath.
Foreign women don't appeal to Japanese men for a long term relationship, even other Asian women don't catch Japanese men' eyes. Japanese men are only interested in fucking foreign women and getting married to Japanese women. Many foreign women don't like Japanese men because they are only interested in having it off with gaijin women and play with their feelings. To foreign women living in Japan. Japanese men are the most perverted. Many foreign women find Japanese men attractive and presentable until they get cheated, it is for that reason that many foreign women turn to Western men and can't stand them being in a relationship with Japanese women. That's why it is so easy to pick up foreign women in Japan. Japanese men are the biggest mongering people. When I go to Sao Paulo, I saw many Japanese men getting laid with Caucasian providers in upscale clubs. I saw less Japanese mongers in Rio de Janeiro, it is maybe because the mongering scenes is not as big as that of Sao Paulo and there are not as many white providers as in Sao Paulo, Japanese men are sexually attracted to Asian and white women. Foreign women can't report to the police and complain about any Japanese man, as the police is always in favor of Japanese people. The Japanese police doesn't want to deal with any foreign people. Any attack on a Japanese person is punished by law even if you did not start the fight. But Japanese people are not people that seek trouble from other people. They always leave foreign people in peace.
Black women from Africa and Europe and African American women are the most rejected in Japan. Nobody pays attention to them. Asian men are not attracted to dark skinned women and most western men living in Japan are either attracted to Asian women or their western women. Black women are not popular with Japanese men unlike Black American men. I saw many Black American men with Japanese regulars. That's why you don't need to be western to be popular with Japanese women, I also saw Turkish men with Japanese women.
Lets get back to the topic in hand. I can't leave Japan for Brazil because I have to work. I am now stuck with a girl that breaks my balls and doesn't want to offer me her cherry anymore because she is fucking upset. Unfortunately I don't have yellow fever that's why I monger in Russia and Brazil. When we first met, she was surprised I didn't have yellow fever. But I didn't mention I have Rusky and Bunda fever. I am fair-skinned and I am more attracted to fair skinned women. My girlfriend is not ugly, the problem is Japanese women don't like hang out with girls more beautiful than them. It is a culture thing because they want to draw men's attentions to them and not to their friends. In Japan, the uglier you are, the more friends you make with girls. The biggest problem is language barrier that's why she can't make friends. Japanese people don't speak English unlike the Filipinos and Thai people.
I am from Quebec, I am not sure if American women have power over Canadian men. They only have power over American men. Unlike I bring her to Canada so I will be fucked for sure.
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If she's not paying rent or utilities, then ask her to move out. Tell her you don't want to live with a girlfriend that won't have sex with you. Make her sleep on the sofa while she finds a new place. Tell her to stop going to your work. Cancel the trip to Thailand and get yourself to a soap land after work. Tell her you are going out without her. Be honest with her and end it now. Stop living a lie. Or continue to live he lie when she gives up the trim after you give her the ultimatum. Nah. Be a man and speak the truth to her.
As for the large number of Japanese men mongering in Sao Paulo, it's because SP has the largest Japanese community outside of Japan.
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A moden male manifesto
What a concept. Intelligent, free men of all ages enjoying each other's company and intellect whilst we ogle beautiful young women. That is what the bull dykes and sexually invisible sisters and their nihilistic cliches are jealous and fearful of. Because takes male eyeballs and resources away from their cloying grasp. And also because women mostly lose their looks after 40 and grannies ogling young guys at FKK's is just not what women generally do, and why there is no market for it. In essence, they lose their sexual force and a key part of a woman's identity and power, namely looks. Women do not dress up and put on makeup just for the hell of it. And of course, there are many women who do not have this female character flaw.
Women are jealous that we are men and are able to get lucky when they cannot or are not interested. It is our life force they resent. We can have gret hair and be senior and still have pretty young things smiling at us. Not so with the older, ordinary, chubby female.
I am coming round to the idea that the men's groups are angry for the wrong reasons. Those guys invested too much emotionally and financially in trusting a single point of failure (a western woman) rather than the ancient way of when men formed strong and close social groups and spread their trust and emotional bets with each other. The traditional society saw men in engaged in fun things, whether a coffee, fishing are chasing pretty girls. The Masons, Lion's and Rotary Clubs were more or less a cover story to hang out and do useful things. Women certainly spread their bets and whining amongst other women (and in the West, do not spare their male partner from their whining and complaining).
This lost art of masculine society what we as men forgot and why we feel marooned by feminism; the West lost sight of the best part of being a man: having fun and trusted relationships with other men unpolluted by sexual tension and haveing some time out from being a captive breadwinner for ungrateful women and their often ungrateful brood. Just ask any parent about teenagers if you doubt that.
And so when marriages break up, and statistically they are biased at doing so, men get fucked over, not just by the legal system, but aso emotionally. They forgot to build redundancy. Back up. Into their lives. Whining about women and feminism and blaming it or the entire femail population is not the answer. The answer is to act like a man, be emotionally stong and open, but well in advance, and with trusted male friends. We need to teach young men and ourselves this ancient art.
I have a theory that insecure women are terrified of us figuring this, being resiliant out and not needing them so much, or at all. Hookers are the perfect bit of fluff for men, we get the best of all worlds: NOT being under the pussy monopoly or foolishly having ivested our whole deck of emotional cards with a single point of failure woman.
So, what this has to do with P2 P is this: rather than living under tyranny of P2 P unfriendly countries (in fact anti-male, but dressed up as trafficking, itself caused by artificial scarcity and supra profits = crime), leave them be.
Join the talent and money exodus from our failed social experiment in the USA that is now just a market, and one with highly repressive laws and militarized cops who shoot and arrest indiscriminately, like unpaid $50 parking tickets in many places.
Those in control take offense that as living, functioning red-blooded males, we like pretty women and engage in the oldest tradition that was invented about the same time when people started trading food and shelter. The reasons are deeply rooted in economics and controlling and channeling male energy, talent, wealth creation toward reproductive enslavement.
We have anti-P2 P laws abut ignore kooks with assault rifles and regular mass slaughter. The only thing I want to shoot is my seed into the hot mouth of a pretty girl. It strikes me as inherently deranged that it is legal to buy assault rifles (that are inherently anti-social and deadly) but frown upon and spend resources trying to cock block and lecturing us about male entitlement.
I'd wager 95% of the guys here and elsewhere will show chivalry very naturally and automatically when put the position of needing to protect women and kids. We don't need their condescending bullshit lectures or dictating who we can consensually sleep with.
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[QUOTE=Komo753;2160499]I get the feeling she got me by the balls.[/QUOTE]I get the feeling you don't have any. Fuck the deposit. Move out.
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Right on, buddy. I have come to the conclusion that ALL women are insecure when you get to know them well enough. We mongers don't need to know them that well. And, yes, I can be chivalrous when I want to to but most American broads / the feminazis either reject this kindness, this display of gentlemanly behavior, outright or take advantage of it to the nth degree. Very little in-between IMO. Women in USA and most of the Western World (and apparently Japan, too, according to no-nuts Komo) have promptly dismissed their role in society in favor of their quest for greed and power. Just look at Stormy Daniels. Six figures was not enough to shut the girl up. Now she wants an additional seven figures after she agreed to keep her mouth shut. Even American hookers have forgotten THEIR role. I can't wait to retire and move to the Philippines where I will inherit a different set of challenges but at least I can be a man without being subjected the endless emotional liberal drivel that represents what has happened in the decline of the USA.
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2160587]
I have a theory that insecure women are terrified of us figuring this, being resiliant out and not needing them so much, or at all. Hookers are the perfect bit of fluff for men, we get the best of all worlds: NOT being under the pussy monopoly or foolishly having ivested our whole deck of emotional cards with a single point of failure woman.
I'd wager 95% of the guys here and elsewhere will show chivalry very naturally and automatically when put the position of needing to protect women and kids. We don't need their condescending bullshit lectures or dictating who we can consensually sleep with.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2160573]If she's not paying rent or utilities, then ask her to move out. Tell her you don't want to live with a girlfriend that won't have sex with you. Make her sleep on the sofa while she finds a new place. Tell her to stop going to your work. Cancel the trip to Thailand and get yourself to a soap land after work. Tell her you are going out without her. Be honest with her and end it now. Stop living a lie. Or continue to live he lie when she gives up the trim after you give her the ultimatum. Nah. Be a man and speak the truth to her.
As for the large number of Japanese men mongering in Sao Paulo, it's because SP has the largest Japanese community outside of Japan.[/QUOTE]Great advice if he takes it and does something. Especially to have an honest conversation with her. My bet is he will play the sympathy card some more.
Japanese men like variety and travel to many different countries discreetly and fuck like hell. As long as it is not thrown in the wives face then they accept it. Most Japanese men are very family responsible and good providers.
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I would never get married if I could do it again.
[QUOTE=Komo753;2159613]She doesn't have borderline personality disorder. The only thing I like about her is that she doesn't eat into my money. She doesn't want to fuck me because I don't want to fuck her without condom. Three weeks ago she were talking to me about forming a family and since then she stopped fucking me. I said who the fuck put you up to that shit? You never talked about that. She puts her carrier before mine and wants me to be a follower.
P.S. She lives with me and also has my apartment key. Officially, we have the same address.
She doesn't know I have ever been to Brazil or Russia. I plan to travel to Brazil in August and stay out there for six months. I did not tell her and I feel a bit guilty. On one side I will regret on the other side I think I better go to Brazil and enjoy my miserable life. I am sure I will regret not fucking enough women when I grow older if I stay with her..[/QUOTE]Hi Komo,
I married the first woman I got intimate with. I was near 30 and just tired of shivering out in the cold, so to speak, and so was she. Biggest mistake of my life. She was a good person, but goddamn if she didn't do a 180 on me after we got married. The physical intimacy dropped to zero. I spent more years than I care to admit in a sexless marriage because, well, that's what marriage is supposed to be about. For better or worse, right? I hung in there hoping she'd change. Wrong. She loved the house and the lifestyle more than me. She didn't want a relationship. She wanted to be taken care of and get the social status that came with being married and more income. I was desperate for sex. She wasn't interested in trying to work harder for my sake. Didn't end well.
There's an old joke - "What food will simultaneously make a woman gain 30 lbs and lose half her sex drive?" Answer: wedding cake.
Look, we're all see*nts to some degree. We all want what we want--people are incredibly willful. The man wants dinner on the table at 6 and a working girl in the bed by 9. The woman wants the house, kids, and you to bring home a big fat paycheck to park her ass on the rest of her days. The important thing is that you give some and you get some. If you're a douchebag and slack off or cheat she'll dump you or take your ass to the cleaners via Dewey Cheatem & Howe, LLC. If she slacks off, you dump her. You don't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] around. Her job is to give you head and if she doesn't like it, she'll be eating frozen pizza on the floor of a one-bedroom apartment with her Wal-Mart uniform hung up on the wall.
I'm not against marriage. I have many friends who have been together and made it work for decades. But I also know me. I'm in my forties, and damn, women my own age sure are looking fat, gross, and un-f*ckable. I fell in love once and I don't think I will again. That doesn't mean that life can't surprise the sh*t out of you. I've had experiences in the last year that have absolutely blown my mind. But I know my limits now.
My advice is to start with knowing yourself. And be cold when necessary. Some of us lean too far into the warm-hearted, generous side, and we get hosed. I'm not saying be a snake. Just know how much you're willing to give, and if it looks like she's going to keep taking more than you want to give, you turn off the bloody spigot. You're looking for happiness. We all are. If stability and monogamy floats your boat, by all means, do it. But if you're wanting and she's not giving. She either gets her sh*t together or you're gone.
Love is wonderful, but every couple falls out of love. Relationships take work, and if one or both of you stop working for it, it's no different than if you decided to show up to work and just put your feet up. Won't be long and your ass will be out on the street. Save your charity for the homeless. A grown woman should know better.
Now, there are wonderful people in the world who truly do love their spouses for better or for worse. I've seen a man in his sixties wipe his woman's ass because she had a debilitating brain disease. I've seen a woman stick with her husband long after a stroke took the best part of him in his late forties. I wish I could say I was one of these people, but I'm not. I'm selfish, and I need to get laid, and if things aren't perfect, then GTFO. This means I don't have to put up with twists of fate like the ones I've mentioned, but it also means I could miss out on some of life's deepest riches. I have to make a choice. And to do that I have to have a deep sense of who I am. Once I knew a woman who I would have jumped out a window for. That was a long time ago, and I haven't met anyone like that since.
One last thing. Be honest and up front. Be somebody you can be proud of 10, 20 years from now. Good luck.
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[QUOTE=Rithro;2161026]There's an old joke - "What food will simultaneously make a woman gain 30 lbs and lose half her sex drive?" Answer: wedding cake.[/QUOTE]And the other joke is, 'Why is the bride smiling as she walks down the aisle? Because she knows she has given her last blow job.'
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[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2160573]If she's not paying rent or utilities, then ask her to move out. Tell her you don't want to live with a girlfriend that won't have sex with you. Make her sleep on the sofa while she finds a new place. Tell her to stop going to your work. Cancel the trip to Thailand and get yourself to a soap land after work. Tell her you are going out without her. Be honest with her and end it now. Stop living a lie. Or continue to live he lie when she gives up the trim after you give her the ultimatum. Nah. Be a man and speak the truth to her.
As for the large number of Japanese men mongering in Sao Paulo, it's because SP has the largest Japanese community outside of Japan.[/QUOTE]I talked to her, I told her that if she keeps going that way, I will find relieves in other pussies, there are Japanese women in abundance that want to date me. I feel like she has narcissistic tendencies, she is very clingy to me. She said she will make sure you won't find anybody to relieve your dick. Because she will do her best to scare girls away from you. Damn she knows where I work and make my life a hell. The last time I fucked a girl other than her was when I mongered in Brazil. I haven't fucked any Japanese woman since I came from Brazil. I really want her to get off my ass. If I cancel my trip to Thailand with her despite the fact that she won't get her money back because there is no refund for any cancellation, she will be susceptible to cancelling too just to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off and prevent me fucking on the side. I sometimes figure that I better drop out of my job and run off to Brazil but unfortunately I have to stay because I need to make money for my future mongering trip. I don't dare to tell her I will go to Brazil because she is inclined to follow me all the way to there. She gives a nasty eye, every time I talk to a Japanese woman. It is killing me living with a girl that's always after me. Conclusion, there is no mongering in Brazil for me for the moment. I say to myself It is better for me to date a Japanese girl than a Gaijin, as they are very submissive and have respect for their husband. I prefer Japanese personality but when it comes to beauty, I prefer European looking women. Maybe if I have a Japanese wife she will let me monger in Brazil and other countries, in the past I was in a relationship with a Japanese woman she always said something like that, I don't mind if a man sleeps around as long as he is a responsible man and provide for his family, because a man is a man. So now I can work out why Japanese men are not interested to have a love relationship with any gaijin.
She is an English teacher for Japanese kids and I wonder how she acts around those kids. Most Americans living in Japan are either English teachers or soldiers.
I agree with you about Japanese men mongering in Sao Paulo, I forgot mention it in my other post.
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Brazilian buttholes postponed.
[QUOTE=Komo753;2161643]I talked to her, I told her that if she keeps going that way, I will find relieves in other pussies, there are Japanese women in abundance that want to date me. I feel like she has narcissistic tendencies, she is very clingy to me. She said she will make sure you won't find anybody to relieve your dick. Because she will do her best to scare girls away from you. Damn she knows where I work and make my life a hell. The last time I fucked a girl other than her was when I mongered in Brazil. I haven't fucked any Japanese woman since I came from Brazil. I really want her to get off my ass. If I cancel my trip to Thailand with her despite the fact that she won't get her money back because there is no refund for any cancellation, she will be susceptible to cancelling too just to pizz me off and prevent me fucking on the side. I sometimes figure that I better drop out of my job and run off to Brazil but unfortunately I have to stay because I need to make money for my future mongering trip. I don't dare to tell her I will go to Brazil because she is inclined to follow me all the way to there. She gives a nasty eye, every time I talk to a Japanese woman. It is killing me living with a girl that's always after me. Conclusion, there is no mongering in Brazil for me for the moment. I say to myself It is better for me to date a Japanese girl than a Gaijin, as they are very submissive and have respect for their husband. I prefer Japanese personality but when it comes to beauty, I prefer European looking women. Maybe if I have a Japanese wife she will let me monger in Brazil and other countries, in the past I was in a relationship with a Japanese woman she always said something like that, I don't mind if a man sleeps around as long as he is a responsible man and provide for his family, because a man is a man. So now I can work out why Japanese men are not interested to have a love relationship with any gaijin.
She is an English teacher for Japanese kids and I wonder how she acts around those kids. Most Americans living in Japan are either English teachers or soldiers.
I agree with you about Japanese men mongering in Sao Paulo, I forgot mention it in my other post.[/QUOTE]She is definitely a narcissist. Unfortunately, for you, she will make good on her threat to continue stalking you to chase away any women willing to relieve your dick. Her strategy is to starve your dick of sex until you give in to her demands to fuck her bareback cum-in-pussy. If you make that grave mistake and knock her up, it will ruin your life, as she will file a paternity suit against you. Then you will have to say goodbye to fucking big Brazilian buttholes, and Hello, to paying child support. If you do not keep up the with the support payments, the USA Government will revoke your passport. That will put an end to your work and monger abroad lifestyle.
In case you have not figured it out already, fucking the lunatic live-in narcissist is an extremely bad idea. The only way out of this is for you to make a sudden and clean break from her and Japan. Going with her on the "honeymoon" trip to Thailand will only convince her that the sexual embargo on your dick and creepy stalking behavior is working. At least you have figured out that even if you go to Thailand to appease her, she will still stalk you to Brazil or do something crazy to prevent you from going on your trip to fuck big Brazilian buttholes. Conclusion, going to Thailand will not improve the situation, and is likely to make things worse because it sends the message you are giving in to her demands and you like spending all of your free time with her.
The best way out of this is to cut your losses and start over. When she goes to work, pack your bags and catch a flight out of Japan. Do not tell anyone you are leaving. After you are safely out of the country, call your boss and apologize for the sudden departure. He will understand, as there are probably whispers at your company about that strange white woman lurking outside the door waiting for you and giving the stink eye to your female coworkers.
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BP and other review sites down in US.
American women now have a virtual clamp on our balls.
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You always have options.
[QUOTE=Riina;2163753]American women now have a virtual clamp on our balls.[/QUOTE]No they don't brother. As long as you have a valid passport and credit card you can be anywhere in the world your would like given you are willing to jump through the hoops of applying for a visa and putting some work in refining your language skills.
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2163596] If you do not keep up the with the support payments, the USA Government will revoke your passport. [/QUOTE]Probably not, since he says he is from Québec.
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[QUOTE=Komo753;2161643] I really want her to get off my ass. [/QUOTE]Then do it, Komo. Tell us your plan or just do it and tell us about it later when you have rescued yourself from psycho broad.
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[QUOTE=Riina;2163753]American women now have a virtual clamp on our balls.[/QUOTE]I read this another way: they have significantly cut a woman's ability to just throw up an ad with a few pics and her number and earn side cash on the slick out of view of hubby or boyfriend.
Expect to see a wave of new college-aged "IG Models" with "Booking info". I expect the same will happen for dating sites.
Trust me: women are PISSED at this move. Don’t believe me? Look for the article in where they are threatening to release the names of congressmen who have used their services if DT signs the bill next week.
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2163596]She is definitely a narcissist. Unfortunately, for you, she will make good on her threat to continue stalking you to chase away any women willing to relieve your dick. Her strategy is to starve your dick of sex until you give in to her demands to fuck her bareback cum-in-pussy. If you make that grave mistake and knock her up, it will ruin your life, as she will file a paternity suit against you. Then you will have to say goodbye to fucking big Brazilian buttholes, and Hello, to paying child support. If you do not keep up the with the support payments, the USA Government will revoke your passport. That will put an end to your work and monger abroad lifestyle.[/QUOTE]I left the apartment and stopped talking to her for two days, I came back to my apartment yesterday night surprise surprise she was horny in the middle of the night, she woke me up by stroking my dick. I love her not to the extent of stopping fucking Brazilian and Russian women. She likes uncovered blowjob and CIM but never had anal sex with her. She sucks as good as Brazilian women because she was very enthusiastic. She didn't stop talking while fucking me, saying why are you fucking angry at me and why were you away for two days? I can't really understand women, it is better for not to understand them if I don't want to lose my hair.
She didn't stop calling me when I was away, but I turned my cellphone off. I did not fuck other women on the side when I was away, after my two days of absence, I decided to be back. I regret not leaving earlier for fear of having more trouble with her.
P.S. I fucked her protected.
Maybe leaving her with some children could have consequences on my future stopovers in the USA. I often transit the USA to go to Brazil.
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Still no Brazilian buttholes for our buddy.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2163948]Probably not, since he says he is from Qubec.[/QUOTE]That is true. As a Canadian citizen, he would not have to worry about that. However, his Canadian passport may be at risk because Canada has very similar laws and penalties for punishing citizens owing child support. He says that his American sweetheart is obsessed enough to stalk him internationally to cock block his efforts at fucking other women. If he were to breed with her, as she desperately desires, she would dial the crazy up to an entirely new level to protect this new family. He said that she has all of his information. Hence, she could simply file a case against him for support in Canada or in the United States in one of several states having reciprocal agreements with Quebec. He is not as immune from the legal cock twisting that may arise from impregnating an American woman who believes she is has the right to control his life as he may think.
All Canadian provinces and territories have reciprocity arrangements with each other and with certain other countries. These arrangements allow you to establish, vary or enforce a support order in a reciprocating province, territory or country.
All of the provinces and territories except Quebec have reciprocity arrangements with the USA Government. These federal arrangements apply to all American states and territories.
Quebec does not have a reciprocity arrangement with the USA Government. However, it has reciprocity arrangements with the following states:
California.
Florida.
Maine.
Massachusetts.
New Hampshire.
New Jersey.
New York.
Oregon.
Pennsylvania.
Under the Family Orders and Agreements Enforcement Assistance Act, a Maintenance Enforcement Program may request the denial or suspension of a Canadian passport. It can also request the denial or suspension of certain federal marine and aviation licenses. If you already have a Canadian passport or one of those licenses, the government must suspend it at the request of a Maintenance Enforcement Program. A Maintenance Enforcement Program can make such a request only if:
You have missed three or more payments; or.
You are behind in payment by $3,000 or more.
If your passport or federal license is suspended, it is important to return it immediately as instructed on the notice you received. If you do not return your passport when asked, it will become invalid. Passport Canada can then advise law enforcement agencies. You may be fined up to $5,000 or sent to jail for up to six months, or both.
The Department of Justice cannot end a suspension until it receives a request from the Maintenance Enforcement Program to end the suspension.
If the federal government owes you money, that money may be taken and used to pay your support debt.
The Family Orders and Agreements Enforcement Assistance Act allows the government to take payments such as income tax refunds and employment insurance benefits for the payment of support.
If you earn income as a federal government employee or contractor, the Garnishment, Attachment and Pension Diversion Act allows the government to take part or all of that income to pay any judgment debt that you owe, including family support.
The Garnishment, Attachment and Pension Diversion Act also allows the government to take a portion of certain federal pension benefits you receive. The pension benefits can only be taken to pay family support.
Therefore, his mongering career may come to early end with one errant cumshot into that lunatic American woman's greedy snatch. From what he says, he intends to spend the next 6 months of his housing lease living with her in sexual frustration with his balls backed up, as she follows him around 24/7 scaring off other women with her stink eye. Perhaps, he is a teetotaler and does not have to worry about drinking too much rice wine, and dropping that massive backed up load in her pussy when he is drunk and horny.
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[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2164127]That is true. As a Canadian citizen, he would not have to worry about that. However, his Canadian passport may be at risk because Canada has very similar laws and penalties for punishing citizens owing child support. He says that his American sweetheart is obsessed enough to stalk him internationally to cock block his efforts at fucking other women. If he were to breed with her, as she desperately desires, she would dial the crazy up to an entirely new level to protect this new family. He said that she has all of his information. Hence, she could simply file a case against him for support in Canada or in the United States in one of several states having reciprocal agreements with Quebec. He is not as immune from the legal cock twisting that may arise from impregnating an American woman who believes she is has the right to control his life as he may think..[/QUOTE]I will be screwed if I don't use any condom for sex.
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Tables turned.
[URL]https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0.html[/URL]
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;2164034]I read this another way: they have significantly cut a woman's ability to just throw up an ad with a few pics and her number and earn side cash on the slick out of view of hubby or boyfriend.
Expect to see a wave of new college-aged "IG Models" with "Booking info". I expect the same will happen for dating sites.
Trust me: women are PISSED at this move. Dont believe me? Look for the article in where they are threatening to release the names of congressmen who have used their services if DT signs the bill next week.[/QUOTE]Told ya:
[B]Sex workers fear violence as US cracks down on online ads: 'Girls will die'[/B]
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/10/sex-workers-fear-violence-as-us-cracks-down-on-online-ads-girls-will-die[/URL]
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;2165521]Told ya:
[B]Sex workers fear violence as US cracks down on online ads: 'Girls will die'[/B]
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/10/sex-workers-fear-violence-as-us-cracks-down-on-online-ads-girls-will-die[/URL][/QUOTE]There are and will be other sites but this is a great opportunity for someone to maintain a BP or CL type site in a sex friendly country sort of like this site.
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[QUOTE=RunMann;2165550]There are and will be other sites but this is a great opportunity for someone to maintain a BP or CL type site in a sex friendly country sort of like this site.[/QUOTE]I don't think anyone wants to invest their time and money in a site that could be shut down and expose them to liability. Unless you have a passport, we truly are now in a pussy prison.
I don't know what's up. USG seems to be down.
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[QUOTE=Riina;2165986]
I don't know what's up. USG seems to be down.[/QUOTE]I too am wondering what has happened to the USASG? Jackson had a classified ad section on there where working girls could post ads, perhaps it's because of that it's no longer up? Jackson, can you confirm or deny?
A while back I posted on this thread about dating Chinese AMP girls already in America. I can now report back that this is a good idea and an option guys stuck in America should consider. I would recommend to download the WeChat app on your phone as all the Chinese girls seem to be on that. Some of these AMP girls are sick of working all day at a massage shop and are happy to get out and go on a date. You may have to use a translator but most girls here have a green card, or at least are on a tourist visa, and can speak a little English already.
Download WeChat and give it a try if you're stuck in America.