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RD, I agree with some of what you say, and your posts are quite balanced and well-written. I am curious to know, however, how much traveling you have done and to what countries. I don't agree that women are the same everywhere. That's not quite what you said, of course; you said "women are women everywhere." I just think that what it [b]means[/b] to be a woman is interpreted differently in different cultures, and that is why right now other countries are better to live in for American men than America is.
I do hope and pray the CW is right and that after a few generations equality and femininity strike a better balance. I doubt it will happen in my lifetime and I have already expatriated myself, but I could see returning if attitudes could change. But the fat thing will be tougher because I don't see the sedentary factor getting anything but worse, nor do I see nutritional awareness increasing. With the demise of the home cooked meal, I see the opposite occurring. Plus the fast food chains
have a lot of political and economic clout. Here in Argentina the social protestors are beginning to focus on chains such as McDonald's and I am loving it.
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I have long thought places like McDonalds have and are destroying far more people's lives then cigarettes are. They position their franchises in such a fascion that the youth of America is literally growing up eating their food two or three times per day! Many people in the inner city neighborhoods almost view places like McDonalds as part of their core upbringing. The results are just now showing up too. People who have been living off this food for two and now three decades, in their mid thirties and forties dying from heart failure, diabetes, strokes, cancers at very premature ages. All associated with living solely on fast food diets.
Ask your physician, (as I did once) if you eat McDonalds food everyday of your life since you were a kid, how long could you likely expect to live? My doctor told me mid 50's if I was lucky!
TANG~!
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Also they destroy local culture. Here in Buenos Aires the food is great. You can go to a local paradilla and get a freshly grilled burger from Argentinean beef for about 55 cents US. Or, you can go to McDonald's or Burger King and get some kangaroo meat that has sat around since 9 AM botulating under a heat lamp (and in the case of Burger King, subsequently nuked into oblivion) for about three times that much. Sadly, due to the pervasive influence of television and advertising, many local people, especially of the younger generation, are inexplicably opting for the latter. You can almost get a fucking sirloin steak here for the price of a BK Whopper. HELLOOOO!!!
Somehow they still don't get fat down here, though. It's a mystery to me. Maybe the ten cups of coffee a day they drink here gives them an extraordinarily rapid metabolism.
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DH,
Thanks for the postive comments on my previous post. I was just typing out a reply when something happened. Hopefully it wasn't posted or this will wind up being a repeat of what I had written down already. Here goes nothing.
Ok, I've been all over Canada and the USA. I've also travelled to Mexico (Tijuana), Cuba and the Bahamas. I've vacationed in Vietnam and have made 2 separate trips to Zambia. I don't have much European experience, but I was in London a couple of times too. Lot's of WSG members have been to more places more times than I have, but I do get around.
The first time I ever crossed the line and paid for sex was during my trip to Cuba. Before that I'd managed to have my way with at least 60 women (conservative estimate) without ever paying a cent. So I feel like I have a fair bit of experience where women are concerned.
My comment on women being women everywhere was meant to convey the idea that women everywhere share the same basic motivations. I also agree with you when you said "what it means to be a woman is interpreted differently in different cultures".
Every time I travel abroad, I get this feeling like I'm somehow home at last. Things just seem to make more sense and people don't seem to be quite so phony somehow. It's easy to like a woman when she likes you. However it still seems to me that this is mostly because they probably like me because they think I can get them something that they want.
Geez, I'm getting cynical these days.
Rock
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CW,
When I wrote about US vs, European Flight attendants, I was tempted to put a disclaimer about British Airways. It is getting closer to American Carriers and that's why I think Virgin Atlantic is thriving by hiring young, attractive, slim flight attendants.
Yes Britain tends to follow the US with a lag of 10 years or so. And the reasons are similar McDonalds, sedentary lifestyles, etc...
But still, in general middle class women tend to dress stylishly, have goods manners (except when they are drunk) and they can be a lot of fun if you press the right buttons.
I do not see the supply and availability of good quality women in the US improving and cannot wait a generation or two. So I am seriously considering expatriation.
Peace
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"The Exotic Factor"
Most American woman could care less about a foreigner and what he had to offer unless they were the epithome of the Italian playboy or some other Hollywood stereotype. People from other countries are looked down on here at best until they get with the program. I know some chicks that couldn't name three European countries let alone locate them. Women here know men from other countries can't offer them jack!@& because they know financially it will not be beneficial. Self important women in the US do not want to know about other countries because America is the only thing they know.
People in the US don't identify a foreign person on the street as Italian, Thai, Kenyan, etc. They could care less. More important things to worry about like what kind of car to buy, look to imitate, a la brittany spears, Aston Kutcher, plastic surgery to get, and where to cop stuff to get high. Forget about what that foreigner has to offer in terms of culture, friendship, etc. That don't count for nothing here.
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what some of you miss about american vs others is i would have been perfectly happy to screw a fat pig in america when i was there. just as many of you. i dated them, i blew money on them, listened to their selfish prattle. nothing.
but it isn't as simple as some keep trying to protray it. it isn't that these pigs wouldn't have sex because of religion. the most religious girls are usually some of the most sexually active. even in the bible belt. the pigs i knew would screw any of my better looking friends (i have a few male model friends) but they wouldn't touch any of my normal friends or me. yes after months of work you might get lucky one night when they had to much to drink, but then the next day you had a 50/50 chance of her claiming [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].
they are simply screwed up they have been led to believe they are beautiful hot babes by all us horny normal guys and screwed up because of cultural biases created by the media. your right about nationality mattering, but only for a few nations probably first would be french men, then italy, spain, england, other europeans, then the south america, middle eastern, and lastly asian men. the reality is that most south american, middle eastern and asian men would have a much harder time than a normal white guy.
chinese girls which are the only ones i have a significant amount of experience with. have a completely different view of relationships and family. they will give of themselves to keep the peace. they will be respectful of you when you meet or after months of dating. the ones i have known screw like bunnies. they are way better women, and if you treat them with one tenth of the respect you give one of the american pigs they will give you a lifetime of devotion and love.
as to the ratio of hot women, it doesn't even compare. you walk out your door and see women that will get your dick hard everywhere. nearly no obesity.
speaking of obesity they eat way more than i and stay very thin. they don't exercise or diet or appologize. they simply are thinner. here in shanghai girls love sweet things, they eat lots of sugar. they dump sugar in everything they cook. they poor oil on everything they cook. they eat pure pig fat with no meat on it. they eat large quanaties of rice and breads. they do not gain weight. about the only difference i have seen is that they don't consume any corn syrup. even coca-cola is made with sugar not corn syrup. i don't understand it but it is true.
anyway i need to go, one of my girl friends is here and i want to go have dinner.
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Middle class British women dress stylishly? That was a joke, right? I lived there for five months. Middle class British women look like they got dumped out of a vacuum cleaner bag.
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Wicked SH,
I think you've hit the nail right on the head with your comments. This is especially true regarding asian women. My own personal experience with asian women matches up exactly with what you said.
It's mainly a cultural difference. They are brought up to put family first, not themselves. That's the problem with women in so many western countries, a selfish attitude.
It is absolutely true that many of the women here are fat pigs. I refer everyone to the latest issue of National Geographic magazine. The cover article discusses the level of obesity in various countries. Guess who comes in at #1? That's right, the good old USA, with other western countries like Canada, UK and Germany not far behind. Interestingly enough, it looks like France and Italy have fairly low obesity levels compared to us.
I don't really care why this may be. What's important is the result. One out of four people is really obese and probably a similar number are moderately overweight. What bugs me is how many fat chicks are wandering around today claiming that they have " a few extra pounds". This new terminology that they use, BBW. What the hell is that supposed to mean anyways? Blubber Butt Whale says I. I think that big, and beautiful, are mutually exclusive terms when being used to describe a woman's appearance.
I'd rather pay to do it with a hot looking girl with a nice body than wait a couple of months trying to get it for free from some girl that looks like the Michellin man. Less hassle, less time, less expense and more variety.
My thoughts for the day,
Rock
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Go read my post in the Morality of Prositution section. I would repost it but it seems redundant.
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What do you guys think of this statement:
[B]American women want equality with chivalry and no responsibility.[/B]
:)
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hey americans,
i am a foreigner living in the united states. probably american women are the most "racist" and ignorant creatures i ever met. they "hate" people with ascent, especially here in minnesota where they think themselves as super hot, beautiful and their opinions are always right.
with all the feminism and equality bullshit: women want to be equal status with men socially, heirarchically and economically and at the same time they want their husbands...boyfriends to be taller, richer, more educated, broader, bigger and so on. so how can they be equal if there is so much of conflict. men, women and minorities can never be equal. remember this a "god damn capitalist country", no one can be equal here.
all those "people" who crow about feminism and human rights can get lost. the u.s is the biggest human rights "violator" in the world, they can take their human rights and shove it up in their ass.
if you ever watched court tv, see all the husbands killing their wives and about serial killers. no country in the world have seen so many of their women being 'whacked and raped' by serial killers. the united states has the highest number of serial killers per capita than any place in the universe and 95% of their victims are young women. i lost my faith in the united states.
sorry guys for being so harsh. you guys can slam at my comments if you want. my comments may not necessarily be right.
memek lover
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Continental European women have better hygiene and grooming than most American women, and that is pretty obvious, walk around the streets of a cosmopolitan European city, and the women are very stylish. European women also tend to be much better looking than US women on average.
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Then why do French women stink so bad?
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CBGBConnisur,
I don't think on average they are better looking. But as you point out they do take better care of themselves. They have pride in how they look and want to feel and look sexy. As to hygiene I think it is a toss up between the two, french, german and english women are not known for having taken care of their teeth, using anti-persprant, or being shaved (underarms, legs, etc.)
American women have been programed by liberal psycho babbel to believe that they should wear birkenstoks and frumpy clothes. That it is ok to be a few pounds over weight (read 30-200 pounds.) That makeup and such are bad for the environment and kill animals. That men should accept them as the human beings they are without pressuring them about societal norms.
BS I say.