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Paddy,
I rented an apartment for $763 for 10 days (you must stay for 10 days with this rental). This apartment was small but was in a great location 2 blocks from Copacabana beach. You don't get catered like you do in the hotels where the cleaning lady makes your bed, cleans your mess, replaces your towels, soap, etc, though. The apartment also doesn't have a backup generator and water supply when there are blackouts unlike most hotels. However, you are free to bring chicks into the apartment but you have to be sure your room is clean every morning and that you are not a slob. A hotel would ask for their ID and charge you an extra R30 guest fee.
If you like the catering and don't mind paying for the guests, then hotel is the way (except during Carnival when they multiply the price 5 times).
If you like the freedom, but don't mind the responsibility of the apartment, then you can rent an apartment.
The apartment I rented I didn't like only because it was very small but it was what I could afford during Carnival season. It did have a kitchen though and I could store food and heat it up if I couldn't finish what I ordered in the Casa de Feijoda. It would normally be $300 for 10 days. The website for my apartment is [url]www.telefonema.net.[/url]
The Brazilian chick I hooked up with made me forget the problems associated with American women. I wish I could stay down there for the rest of my life. Oh well, there is always retirement and vacations to Brazil and I highly doubt that there is a non-racist American woman that would hook up with me and tie me down to America anyway.
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Lenin -
Two of the recent focus points seem to be on the "boring" and "suspicious" nature of AW. The boring aspect I would have thought had something to do with the suspicious nature of AW, since it was mainly an emotional distance that was felt. But you then give examples of all the different women from different countries that have the same feelings about AW.
Are AW just emotionally distant in general compared to other women from many different countries? They are not just "boring" to men, but also to other women?
I do see the "suspicious" nature of AW women to be a separate quality from their emotional distance, since, as you stated with your trips back to Russia, Russian women do not seem to have a fear of going with men anywhere, even after knowing them for one hour.
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Thanks Jak, you as usually helped me with vocabulary.
“emotional distance” - very well describe AW.
Major complains from both foreign women and men about AW: emotionally distance, falseness and that they are boring.
(Also a lot of complains that they are ignorant about over cultures)
Jack, I think that suspicious is result of weak emotional intelligence of AW
For example, interaction with RW is very emotional right from beginning.
They are joking, trying to make fun of you or even insult you.
They so kick you out from your internal balance that you
just cannot hide your real feeling.
They are watching your reaction and how you handle their verbal attacks.
After one hour they pretty well know your character,
what expect from you and then they decide can they trust you or not.
Don’t think that they just stupid to go with any stranger.
They are very confident what they are doing.
It seems AW doesn’t have this emotional mechanism to check the stranger.
As result, they are just polite, scared or suspicious all the time.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lenin
[i]Three x, I know that too :)
purplengold, I have even more cultural barrier with Cubans or Brazilians but it has never been the problem. I did not talk to North American girls about liking or disliking America. When I go out with Canadian guys I also see that there is
not much emotional interaction between them and AW.
I also have women friends: Brazilian, Iranian, Hungarian, Rumanian, Poland and Czech women. This pattern is consistent also with women friends. I feel them like normal people; I feel something wrong with AW. I don’t feel that they normal. I also have similar complains from Brazilian, and Rumanian friends about AW. I even have similar complains From Russian, Brazilian and Czech women friends about AW.[/i][/QUOTE]
In all your examples, it's foreignors trying to relate to AW.
[QUOTE][i]There is really something emotionally wrong with AW. I would like to know, but probably I never will because I don’t want to have anything with them.[/i][/QUOTE]
And, maybe your not wanting to have anything with them is something they sense?
[i][QUOTE]
About 'keep women in line’ I am afraid you didn’t understand me right.
There are no reasons why Russian woman cannot trust Russians man.
It is very intuitive relationship. She know limits what she can do and what cannot. [/i][/QUOTE]
Not true. You have said that you would be able to put her in line. That implies that she would want to step out of line. Also, you said, back a few days ago, that AW would get put in line if they went to Russia. Now, they certainly wouldn't have the intuition. Hence, you are implying some kind of forced training.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by darkseid
[i]Paddy,
I rented an apartment for $763 for 10 days (you must stay for 10 days with this rental). This apartment was small but was in a great location 2 blocks from Copacabana beach. You don't get catered like you do in the hotels where the cleaning lady makes your bed, cleans your mess, replaces your towels, soap, etc, though. The apartment also doesn't have a backup generator and water supply when there are blackouts unlike most hotels. However, you are free to bring chicks into the apartment but you have to be sure your room is clean every morning and that you are not a slob. A hotel would ask for their ID and charge you an extra R30 guest fee.
If you like the catering and don't mind paying for the guests, then hotel is the way (except during Carnival when they multiply the price 5 times).
If you like the freedom, but don't mind the responsibility of the apartment, then you can rent an apartment.
The apartment I rented I didn't like only because it was very small but it was what I could afford during Carnival season. It did have a kitchen though and I could store food and heat it up if I couldn't finish what I ordered in the Casa de Feijoda. It would normally be $300 for 10 days. The website for my apartment is [url]www.telefonema.net.[/url]
The Brazilian chick I hooked up with made me forget the problems associated with American women. I wish I could stay down there for the rest of my life. Oh well, there is always retirement and vacations to Brazil and I highly doubt that there is a non-racist American woman that would hook up with me and tie me down to America anyway. [/i][/QUOTE]
Doesn't this belong in the Brazil forum?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by jak
[i]I do see the "suspicious" nature of AW women to be a separate quality from their emotional distance, since, as you stated with your trips back to Russia, Russian women do not seem to have a fear of going with men anywhere, even after knowing them for one hour. [/i][/QUOTE]
There are two kinds of 'suspicion' that have been receiving attention. There's the healthy suspicion that going with a stranger to his apartment might be dangerous. And there's the standard, 'I think my boyfriend is cheating on me' suspicion.
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And there's also the basic suspicion of men in general and men's motives in general. That's the most common, imho, and occurs in varying degrees and intensities.
Came across this earlier today:
"When a woman behaves like a man why doesn't she behave like a nice man." Dame Edith Evans
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Lenin, from your last post, I gather that what really bothers you about AW is that they are more of a challenge. They don't come right out and give you their emotional all right away, so they are emotionally handicapped?
Personally, I find the complexities more appealing. A relationship is about discovering one another. It can't all be put on the table at the start (though it's fun to put a woman on the table :)). And, I'd bet that a lot of the 'secrets' and emotions that your RW share are not all that secret, nor all that genuine as you are led to believe.
My opinion is that RM (or at least you) are handicapped and have a hard time dealing with complex relationships.
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JZ, yeah. That certainly comes into play as well. If you take some of the proclamations of poster's like Lenin and Virgin_Terr as truths then that suspicion is justified. I mean, if women are only with us because of our money or position then we must constantly be suspicious that she has found someone with more money or a better position.
Likewise, women tend to believe that we're only with them because they look good or are good in bed. Hence they are always suspicious of us finding someone better looking or more of a sexual dynamo.
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Darkseid,
Thanks for the additional information on the ins and outs of hotels in Rio. This is starting to crystalize for me. It also sounds like Rio has much to offer in addition to hot women.
Caught your detailed report on the South America/Rio forum. Looks like 4X4 is for me too. Well done.
The whole Rio scene seems soo foreign and alien to an American guy. I have to get down there. It sounds even better than Prague which is my little corner of the world. Am headed there in four weeks. Wish you or some of our brethren could join me for a week of drunkeness and womanizing.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by purplengold
[i]Lenin, from your last post, I gather that what really bothers you about AW is that they are more of a challenge. They don't come right out and give you their emotional all right away, so they are emotionally handicapped?
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Really bothers me about AW that they have small emotional experience and capabilities. It is even dangerous. It could bring big troubles later in relationship. I don’t mine challenge but only if women deserved it. They are not.
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Personally, I find the complexities more appealing.
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Then I understand why you like Asian.
I prefer Latin. I like openness. Life is complex enough even without women.
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A relationship is about discovering one another.
It can't all be put on the table at the start
[/i][/QUOTE]
No, all not, but some yes.
[QUOTE][i]
I'd bet that a lot of the 'secrets' and emotions that your RW share are not all that secret, nor all that genuine as you are led to believe.
[/i][/QUOTE]
I know that. I did not say what I totally bellied in all her stories.
But lots of them were deep and genuine to feel strong connection.
[QUOTE][i]
My opinion is that RM (or at least you)
are handicapped and have a hard time dealing with complex relationships.
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Purplengold are you trying to insult me or this is revenge because I don’t like AW? Well, I did wanted be rude but you Purplengold seems
have some mental problems, I hope temporary.
But I am OK, I am taking your challenge:
RM helped create RW which most of the men in the world like
AM (including you) helped create AW which nobody like
Therefore I don’t think RM or me more handicapped than AM or you
Anyway, most of the AM in this forum made great posts and I am sure
If All American men were like most of you guys,
we would change situation with AW very quickly.
AW = American Women
AM = American Men
RW = Russian Women
RM = Russian Men
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What's wrong with American women is in many cases not the woman herself but this Puritanical feminist loving society. Analyzing Lenin's experiences with RW, Lenin said that when RW are in Russia, they are more open and are equipped to scope you out and would see if they can trust you. When they come to America, Lenin said that because women hold the upper hand, RW feel they can pick on AM and get away with it. They actually BECOME the AW after living here a few years. It is the way AMERICA educates women to behave that causes problems with the women here. Also my Cuban ex-fiancee is another example but you know the story by now.
While I was at Carnaval, even the American women were open and open to discussing sex. When they return to America, AW are expected to act a certain way which shows "class". They cannot discuss sex in front of men or men cannot discuss sex in front of women in American society. In fact when I got back to my office, a dirty joke slipped from my mouth because I got into the habit of speaking with sexually open people of Brazil and my co-workers reminded me that there are women around the office and about sexual harrassment laws. I responded, "Shit! I forgot that I am no longer around sexually open people." In Brazil, everyone even some of the American women talked about butts, titties, partying and screwing around. There are a few exceptions of course like the breakup I witnessed with an American couple but that was because she didn't leave her American attitude at home and didn't get into the SPIRIT of Carnaval and that spirit could have healed their relationship. America has so many laws forbidding partying and sexuality and that leads to unopenness and a lack of emotions. Sexuality opens us up because part of sexuality is love and love is blocked when we become mechanical from the strict anti-sex laws like what is happening in the US and Japan where we have the highest divorce rates and the least amount of sex. Also marriages forged from greed is from the lack of sexuality and love. Some states like Florida even want to abolish nudity or even toplessness even in INDOOR EVENTS. Bye bye Spring Break!! I hate to knock the American motto "Land of the Free", but America has become a Nazi Gestapo when it comes to sex.
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darkseid, great post!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by darkseid
[i]While I was at Carnaval, even the American women were open and open to discussing sex. When they return to America, AW are expected to act a certain way which shows "class". They cannot discuss sex in front of men or men cannot discuss sex in front of women in American society. In fact when I got back to my office, a dirty joke slipped from my mouth because I got into the habit of speaking with sexually open people of Brazil and my co-workers reminded me that there are women around the office and about sexual harrassment laws.[/i][/QUOTE]
Exactly,
I’ve seen how easily AW can change their behavior in Cuba and Jamaica. After couple minutes primitive conversation with the local man (I like you baby, do you like me?) AW allow him to put his arm
on her leg.
This is what I am talking about. AW could be re-educated quite easily if man behaves like a man not like a slave. God made man to lead woman not opposite.
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Lenin and Darkseid -
One of the other common complaints about AW has been their mercenary attitudes --- men = money. One of the annoying aspects of many of my dealings with women in foreign countries is that I often get the "rich" American attitude from women in various ways. I suspect the women are different in their behavior or attitude with the native men in many of these countries, but it seems that the attitude she has with an American man often has a "spend money" edge to her.
Granted, my experiences with foreign women have been a combination of pro and non-pro, whereas my experience with AW have been non-pro. Due to my being an AM and the image of being rich, along with my skewed experience of pro women in the foreign mix, I find it difficult to determine to what degree foreign women really differ from AW in this regard.
What are your thoughts?
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Jak,
To find the true love in other countries being American is tough thing to do.
In Russia, for example, once they know you from US, girls who want green card and your money will surround you. And they are going to play such a game what you
will not notice their real intention. I myself, when I came to Russia, am trying not to tell that I am living in North America as long as possible. Just because of all above, because I want to see real feeling. There exists one way around however. You should invest the time to find good Russian friends. There is traditionally strong man support in Russia like not in any country in the world. They’ll guide you and help you to make right decisions.
And in Russia is much more fun and safer to hunting for the girls with the Russian friends than alone.
I used same tactic in Cuba too. It helped a lot.