Why is it Europe's fault that you only speak English?
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Why is it Europe's fault that you only speak English?
[quote=Dickhead] Why is it Europe's fault that you only speak English?[/quote]
Dickhead, I don't think that's what CBGB meant by his statement. Gringos can stick out like a sore thumb in a lot of places, even Australia (I know I did when some "Sheilas" heard my American accent).
Anyway, there doesn't seem to be a concensus on which country is the best for relocating. I think one man's princess is another man's troll, and the only thing anyone here seems to agree on is that Westernized women pretty much drive us to consider such drastic measures.
P.S. to Prokiev: I never said I wanted to [u]work[/u] in Mexico - I'm not crazy ;). Maybe that's why I liked "straddling" the border; I get to have my U.S. $$$$ while spending what is (even during present times) considerably less on living expenses than in a lot of American locales.
What is so "drastic" about relocating to another country? Look at the EU (another reason CBGB's post is suspect); you have 20 countries with different languages, customs, cultures, and cuisines, and the people are all moving freely about. Look at Amsterdam. It's absurd to say they "don't accept foreigners there."
Why is relocating to another country such a big deal as compared to relocating to another state or another city? It's fucking easy if you do some research and preparation. I've lived in six countries in my life. Four of them I enjoyed more than living in the US. I bet I will live in at least five more countries before I die.
Don't know the language? Learn it. They won't let you work legally? Work illegally. Don't have any money saved up? Sell your house and your car and your stupid assed jet skis and ATVs.
How many people have ever robbed a bank? How many people have ever wanted to rob a bank? Well, one way to rob a bank is to default on your credit cards. Buy an RV with your credit cards. Stock it with food, clothing, and other supplies on your credit cards. Drive it into México and disappear.
FUCK Bush.
FUCK American cows.
FUCK the religious right.
FUCK anything that will stand still long enough.
DH!,
"How many people have ever wanted to rob a bank? Well, one way to rob a bank is to default on your credit cards. Buy an RV with your credit cards"
Hey, thanks for the sound financial advice. How's that illegal job coming along at the Mansion?
Have you been hitting the sauce again tonight???
During my divorce, my ***** of an American ex-wife filed a number of false accusations against me to get as much money as possible. One of her allegations was that I had intentions of fleeing to South America. The judge recognized that as bullshit immediately since there was no evidence of me liquidating or transferring assets. Anyway, when I discovered how much money I had to pay in alimony and child support combined I actually contemplated making good on her lie.
However, there is one little detail that must be taken into account when becoming a fugitive from financial obligations. You can never return. This includes transitting through the US when travelling by air. For some reason most international flights from South America to other regions seem to transit through the US which would not be good for you if you're a wanted man.
What happens if they were to cancel your passport? If you only have US citizenship then you're screwed. I'd rather find a way to send the old hag a check rather than having to look over my shoulder for the rest of my life. Being an American illegal overseas sounds quite adventurous but I'd check out the alternatives first.
No problem, PK. Any time. Another great way to make money here is to buy all your beer at Norte where the deposit is 60 centavos and then return them all at Disco for 65 centavos. It's huge.
Or marry a rich American woman. I've married four American women and been widowed each time. The first three died from eating poisoned mushrooms and the fourth one died from a blow to the head. That's what she gets for not eating the mushrooms.
I don't work at the mansion, though. I tried to talk them into paying me 50 pesos to cook the dinners, so that there would not be 20 steaks, all medium well, and so the chicken would not sit out at room temperature all day long, but they were too cheap to do it.
Fuck banks. They lie all the time. For example "18% APR" is really over 19.7% effective interest.
[QUOTE=Dickhead]What is so "drastic" about relocating to another country? Look at the EU (another reason CBGB's post is suspect); you have 20 countries with different languages, customs, cultures, and cuisines, and the people are all moving freely about. Look at Amsterdam. It's absurd to say they "don't accept foreigners there."
Why is relocating to another country such a big deal as compared to relocating to another state or another city? It's fucking easy if you do some research and preparation. I've lived in six countries in my life. Four of them I enjoyed more than living in the US. I bet I will live in at least five more countries before I die.
Don't know the language? Learn it. They won't let you work legally? Work illegally. Don't have any money saved up? Sell your house and your car and your stupid assed jet skis and ATVs.
How many people have ever robbed a bank? How many people have ever wanted to rob a bank? Well, one way to rob a bank is to default on your credit cards. Buy an RV with your credit cards. Stock it with food, clothing, and other supplies on your credit cards. Drive it into México and disappear.
FUCK Bush.
FUCK American cows.
FUCK the religious right.
FUCK anything that will stand still long enough.[/QUOTE]
I lived in Europe for nearly, a year, I didn't think that I was free to move about in any way. In most European countries you have to register your address and purpose of stay(if more than 3 months) with the local police department. One of the below posters mentioned that Europeans carry national ID cards and can be arrested by police without probable cause and for merely their appearance. I talked to locals, especially immigrants(who are pressured to 'assimiliate') who feel very ostracized and left on the periphery of society. The economic situation in Europe is absolutely terrible, most European countries have 10+% unemployment, Germany has 12.6%(some regions of the country have joblessness as high as 30%) and it is considered to be the richest country with the best standard of living in Europe. What good is it to go to a country where even the local people can't find a job?
Honestly its better to take off for a year, find your girl, charm the hell out of her and bring her back home to some small town. I think if you a bring a foreign women to a big city in America, the glamour and lights might change her, if you go someplace more low key it might be different.
CBGB,
Try looking at your last post from the perspective of an immigrant to the US.
Not expected to assimilate? Having to register? ever heard those PSA´s on the radio? All Immigrants must register etc?
30% unemployment, granted in some cases, but with free medical care and basic social services in most countries.
Cops being more tuned in to "shady types" is a worldwide fact, try it sometime with a southern Sheriff!
Hey, do whatever you want, but I suggest a US citizen will have an easier time all-around than would a non-Us citizen emigrating to the States.
...and to keep things topical, my first wife was ´murican, the second European. Guess which one is better. ;)
cheers,
Sporadic
Hey gents!
I've been reading the recent subject matter and I find it very intriguing. I think all of you (especially you, ChochaMonger) should purchase and read the book by J.J. Luna titled: "How to be Invisible". The stuff is ALL legal and will keep you below the radar of the constabulary and the government WHEREVER you may reside. Many of the tactics laid out are those that I myself will employ in the not too distant future when I am able to do so. The book was written BEFORE 9/11 BUT this guy has survived and PROSPERED "underground" in a society that was even MORE repressive than today's "DubyaLand".
Heh, looks as if this discussion on expatriates has taken on a life of its' own. I was tempted to comment on how we might be getting a bit off subject, but when you think about it this really isn't that far off topic; after all, why wouldn't any man consider moving elsewhere when trapped in a nation of self-centered, manipulative, and sometimes emasculating little trolls masquerading as "women"? Perhaps this discussion actually deserves its own forum after all?
I don't know if this expatriation thing is right for [u]everyone[/u], but admit it - it's probably crossed your mind at least once in your lifetime :)
I'm gonna do it for sure.
My plan is to save up as much as it takes. Then I want to have one house here and another one in my country of choice. Then I'll live a 6 month 50/50 split btw the two.
That way one can get the benefits of both, enjoy good weather all year 'round without missing out or getting homesick.
Just in case you guys think this sounds too expensive, remember that in many countires it cost maybe a grand a month to live like a king. That will pay for the airfare. In fact, I'll actually need LESS money to retire..... even factoring in the extra $$$ for a second house.
Rock
Smut,
I usually don't post stuff like this since I truly believe that most of Mexico, including Mexico City is SAFER than my own neighborhood. After all, the US is one of the most violent countries on earth and my area is worse than most. But this post from the TJ board seems relevant.
And if you live somewhere but don't work there, well the little problem of supporting yourself rears it's ugly head. I am a long time advocate of earning your money in the US and retiring or living part-time abroad and have done so in various countries - Spain, Mexico. But packing it in early to move and live in most foreign locales is usually an economic mistake IMHO.
As to getting back to the topic of American Women, I also am a big supporter of the gals here in the US of A. Too often you guys compare having a marriage or LT relationship of equals here in the US with some 18 yo Latina SW without shoes who you met on a weekend vacation and blew you for an ice cream cone. Apples and oranges. Until you've had some reasonable LT relationship with a professional Mexican or Argentinian woman, you simply can't make any meaningful comparisons. I've dated several upper class Mexican women - lawyer, college professor, store owner, etc - and believe me, they were very conservative and wanted much the same things as Am. women. In Argentina, I found the ladies to be surprisingly status concious and very concerned with appearances - especially yours. Same thing in Spain. Yes, the street pussy is better and cheaper but the comparison ends there. And looking over my lifelong list of conquests, I must confess that the best lover's I have known were all Americans. And one of them was other here last night . . . Thank God. Have Fun, -P
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--Tijuana Awash in Wave of Violent Crime
The slaying of a police official Saturday is the latest in the region's string of killings, many targeting wealthy businessmen.
By Richard Marosi
Times Staff Writer
May 22, 2005
TIJUANA — The exploits of the Comando Negro, or Black Commandos, are part of a dark season of violence that has set new standards for brazenness and frequency in this crime-weary city
Fueled in part by warring drug cartels, bodies in recent months have been turning up almost daily in empty lots, ravines and streets. Many victims were mangled by torture, their heads wrapped in tape. Some bodies have been dissolved in tubs of acid. One body, the son of a local magistrate, was missing its right hand.
Homicides in Tijuana totaled 163 in the first four months of this year, compared with 92 in the same period last year — a 77% increase.. In April, 55 homicides, a monthly record, were committed, police said. Los Angeles, by comparison, a city more than two times larger, had 36 homicides in April.
Tijuana's crime surge is part of a wave plaguing many Mexican border cities. Crime in the Tijuana metropolitan area, Shirk said, has reached unprecedented heights. "This is probably the most bloody period of Tijuana's history," he said.
Crime waves are nothing new in this sprawling border metropolis. Previous surges in violence have claimed the lives of politicians, high-ranking police officials and prosecutors. But some recent incidents have spilled into public places in upscale neighborhoods that in the past had been mostly free of violent crime.
Prokofiev,
You said that we were "comparing apples and oranges" when talking about US women versus Latinas. Then you went on to state that several high-class mexican women that you dated wanted similar things to north american women. I'm gonna make one assumption here... and will take it for granted that these were fairly attractive, professional type women.
The thing is, you actually got to go out with them in the first place! So many women here are homely, average, or out of shape. So many of the pretty ones are already taken. The ones that aren't frequently turn out to be lesbians, man-hating or just plain loaded down with so much emotional baggage from past relationships that they aren't worth the time and effort it takes to get to the fun part.
Sure, you can't just expect to get laid right off the bat with an upper class hispanic woman. But at least you have a decent chance of finding a good one who will like you.
Rock
Rock Dog, thanks for taking the words from my mouth :).
Prokofiev (sorry about getting your name wrong the first time), none of this is really news to me - remember, I lived there for five years. While there is truth to what you say (I've even seen it myself), the dating scene still tops what I'm experiencing back in my home territory. And no, I'm not necessarily talking about street girls. Like I mentioned earlier this isn't everyones' cup of tea; it's just something that worked for [u]me[/u]. Doesn't mean it's the ultimate solution. My fault for not clarifying that earlier, but I'm sure you know what I'm saying anyway.
Besides, there were other reasons I preferred life south of the border; I love the culture, and that city seems to have a certain [u]energy[/u] flowing through it, even during the weeknights. I really enjoyed myself there.
But you do bring up some [u]excellent[/u] points for one to consider before taking the plunge.
prokofiev and i have never met but we were in argentina at the same time, banging the same hooker on basically alternating nights. now [b]she[/b] sure as hell wasn't status conscious or concerned with appearances. i dated a lawyer down here and she raped me on our first date. i met another young lady, 19 years old and from an upper class family. it took me two coffee dates and showing her how i worked over the internet to get into her pants.
so obviously my argentinean experience was a lot different than his, probably because he is more of a classical violinist while i am just a fucking dickhead. either way it sure beats the us of a. my best lovers have all been latinas. i happen to know where pk lives and i think the women there are probably way above average by us standards but the weather there sucks. here we have a nice four season climate and more women than you can shake a stick at.
but don't forget about the snakes and the malaria here. leprosy too. stay away.